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The Washington Post’s discovery that Jackie, the star of Sabrina Rubin Erdely’s Rolling Stone blockbuster “A Rape on Campus,” had electronically concocted (or, as the kids say these days, catfished) a nonexistent suitor named Drew to make “Randall” jealous is reminiscent of the 2003 movie Shattered Glass.

Stephen Glass’s catfished website for Jukt Micronics

In the scene shown above, New Republic writer Stephen Glass (Hayden Christensen) attempts to catfish into existence the Jukt (Juked?) Micronics firm he’d profiled in the magazine to reassure his new editor Chuck Lane (Peter Sarsgaard) that he hadn’t just made it up.

Perhaps this is just a coincidence. And perhaps so is all the shattered glass imagery in Erdely’s article.

On the other hand, Glass was Erdely’s boss at the U. of Pennsylvania newspaper in the 1990s.

From the U. of Pennsylvania Gazette:

Through a Glass Darkly

Samuel Hughes

Nov./Dec. 1998

“I have to get this off my chest,” wrote Stephen Glass, C’94. “I have a confession to make. During my tenure as Executive Editor of this newspaper, I have allowed a grave omission to occur.”

A tantalizing lead for his farewell “Enemy of the People” column in The Daily Pennsylvanian [DP]. Five years later, the reader is intrigued: What awful sin was this now-infamous alumnus going to cough up? Could it be that — even back then — he had spun quotes and characters from whole cloth and was about to admit it?

Well, not exactly. The “grave omission” was that he hadn’t publicly praised his own staff, the scores of students who worked under him, “laboring to all hours in the night in their idealistic quest for truth, justice, and the American way.” A little fulsome, maybe — the DP was rather full of itself that year, especially after stolen newspapers and Water Buffaloes catapulted it onto the national stage — but a nice gesture. No wonder his staff adored him.

As that farewell column continued, Glass began spinning an image that is somewhat more remarkable in hindsight than it was at the time: that of a looking glass, a mirror of the University itself, which the DP’s staffers “slave in this office for hours on end to construct.” And it was that mirror’s reflection, he wrote, “that allows members of the University to be self-critical and strive for excellence.”

Then there was this: “This mirror is not and should not be ‘nice.’ Rather, this reflection is more useful when the glass is pure — emphasizing each wrinkle and each scar. Only by seeing our true self will we ever improve.” …

Glass, glass, glass, glass, glass, glass.

The Stephen Glass story has been far more enthralling to writers than to the public for a lot of obvious reasons, but a subtle one is that the metaphors write themselves: e.g., Shattered Glass.

Writers love writing about glass.

The title of this 1998 article, “Through a Glass Darkly,” comes from St. Paul. Through the Looking Glass is from Lewis Carroll. Hamlet is called the “glass of fashion” and, in Shakespeare’s most self-referential speech, the Prince of Denmark advises the Players “to hold, as ’twere, the mirror up to nature.” Perhaps the most bravura variations on glass/mirror imagery are found in Nabokov’s Pale Fire, the story of the Prince of Zembla hunted by a communist assassin from the Glass Works.

I don’t know if Erdely figured out that Jackie was a catfisher (but if anybody would have, it might have been somebody like Erdely who paid so much attention to Shattered Glass — here’s Erdely’s 2003 review of the movie). But the shattered glass imagery throughout her article …

At age 25, he was fired from his job as associate editor of The New Republic, and his freelance contracts with George, Rolling Stone, and Harper’s were cancelled. … Now there are Web sites with titles like A Tissue of Lies: the Stephen Glass Index cataloguing his inventions and the media commentary — of which there has been truckloads, including lengthy features in recent issues of Vanity Fair and Philadelphia magazine by DP alums Buzz Bissinger, C’76, and Sabrina Rubin [Erdely], C’94. …

The title of the future Rolling Stone writer’s article about her old boss was entitled “Stained Glass.” See what I mean?

It’s important to keep in mind that Glass’s many fabricated articles were insultingly absurd:

What could have transformed the likeable, talented, high-minded young editor who was constantly asking people “Are you mad at me?” into a spinner of mendacious and increasingly whacked-out yarns about churches whose members believed that George Bush was the reincarnation of Christ and shopping-mall Santas whose fear of child-molestation suits led to a Union of Concerned Santas and Easter Bunnies?

I only read one of Glass’s articles in TNR back in the 1990s, “Praised Be Greenspan” which Glass co-authored with the now prominent Jonathan Chait about Wall Street cultists who supposedly worship the Fed Chairman. It was ludicrous:

… another bond-trading outfit has turned an empty office into a Greenspan shrine. Dozens of news photographs of Greenspan adorn the walls; glass casing encloses two Bic pens Greenspan supposedly used in 1993. Quotations from more than 30 of his speeches are posted under a sign that reads “Greenspan’s Teachings.” The centerpiece is a red leather chair that sits in the middle of the room, surrounded by blue velvet ropes. A placard perched on the armrest says Greenspan sat in the chair in 1948–at the time, he was still in college. “Some nights when we’ve lost money,” trader Brent Donalds confides, “I come in here and sit in the chair and think. It gives me inspiration.”

Many trading houses use a software program which translates any Greenspan sentence into a predicted market reaction, using a database of all his public remarks. The program bills itself as the “Talmud of the Federal Reserve– interpreting his every word!”

Lots of people at the time wrote in to point out that Glass’s stories were palpable hoaxes, but his admiring coworkers, such as Hanna Rosin and Chait, could see nothing dubious about them.

Back to Hughes’ 1998 story for the Penn magazine, “Through a Glass Darkly:”

“When this thing first broke,” says Philadelphia magazine editor Eliot Kaplan, C’78, “I was hoping that he would hold a press conference and say, ‘I’ve been secretly doing a book on how easy it is to fool the mainstream press, and now my book will be out next year.’ But that didn’t happen.

“How easy it is to fool the mainstream press” is one lesson evident in the oeuvre of Sabrina Rubin Erdely (who, perhaps not coincidentally, worked for Kaplan at Philadelphia at the time of Glass’s exposure in 1998), with her tales of, say, a neo-Nazi viciously attacking a transgender individual’s scissors with his swastika-tattooed chest.

Sabrina Rubin [Erdely], who says she and the rest of the editorial board “adored” him, puts it another way: “There are reporters who get ahead because they’re great schmoozers, and I think Steve was definitely one of them.” When he became the paper’s executive editor, the editorial board hailed him as a “man of principle,” and in her Philadelphia magazine piece, Rubin [Erdely] describes how Glass threw a righteous fit when she and a colleague concocted a funny and obviously made-up travel story for 34th Street — going so far as to call an emergency session of the DP’s Alumni Association board to apprise them of the transgression. (Rubin also acknowledges that she felt “terrible” about writing a fairly dishy article about someone she had once liked and admired. “Actually, Eliot [Kaplan] had to force me to do it,” she says. “I didn’t want to do it at all.”) …

Recall that in 1998 Eliot was Sabrina’s boss. Eliot Kaplan was the fellow who hoped Glass was trolling the mainstream press to show how easy it is to fool them.

Most members of the DP felt that Glass not only reacted appropriately to what they saw as a blatant attempt at censorship but that he handled the high-pressure situation with poise. “Steve really distinguished himself as a true leader,” says Rubin [Erdely]. “The rest of us were basically in a panic — when we found out that the entire press run had been stolen and thrown away, we felt like we were under attack, and we didn’t understand the reasons why. Steve originally thought the people who had done it should be prosecuted and all the other stuff, but then he cooled down and he calmed everybody else down. And he had a little talk with [editorial-page editor] Kenny Baer, and he said, ‘Everything’s got to come through me; we can’t have everybody else talking; I’ll be the spokesman.’ Whenever he was quoted in all these different magazines, whatever he’d say, he could talk in sound bites. He knew exactly how to handle the situation — he knew people really well.” …

It was “Hack Heaven” — a story about a bratty teenage computer hacker who was blackmailing software companies that appeared in the May 18, 1998, New Republic — which led to Glass’s unmasking as a writer of fiction posing as a journalist. (And not a very good fiction-writer, either; the dialogue in that piece is ludicrous.) The former fact-checker was exposed by an online journalist from Forbes Digital Tool named Adam Penenberg, who couldn’t figure out why he had never heard of “Jukt Micronics” and why Jukt’s Web site (which featured a “rebuttal” of “Hack Heaven”) was so blatantly amateurish.

“I am sure Glass would have been caught eventually,” says Penenberg. “Usually when Glass faked a piece, he would use first names, or rely on anonymous sources and fabricated notes to fool editors and fact-checkers. But with ‘Hack Heaven,’ perhaps we were seeing the beginning of the end. He actually provided first and last names, a government agency and a law, a convention he wrote had occurred in Bethesda, Md. He was becoming careless. Perhaps he wanted to get caught.”

Perhaps after writing so many dubious articles, Sabrina Rubin Erdely wanted to get caught too?

Or maybe Rubin Erdely was playing a game to see how many clues she could stuff into one article and still fool the mainstream press?

Consider that there are four separate references in Erdely’s “A Rape on Campus” to glass shattering. her second and third references to a Night of Broken Glass are just her scene-setting at fraternity row as Erdely subliminally implies that UVA’s “overwhelmingly blond” students are on the verge of some kind of Kristallnacht:

Hundreds of women in crop tops and men in khaki shorts stagger between handsome fraternity houses, against a call-and-response soundtrack of “Whoo!” and breaking glass. “Do you know where Delta Sig is?” a girl slurs, sloshed. Behind her, one of her dozen or so friends stumbles into the street, sending a beer bottle shattering.

But Erdely’s first and fourth references to glass shattering are self-evidently absurd:

– First, Jackie and her first rapist crash through the low glass table in the rape room spreading shards that grind into Jackie but, apparently, not into any of the seven rapists.

This should have been a huge clue that Erdely’s tale is bogus. Indeed, the very first comment on the seminal piece of skepticism, Richard Bradley’s blog post “Is The Rolling Stone Story True?” is:

Wouldn’t the rapists get cut by the broken glass all over the floor, too? I guess they were such sex-crazed animals that they didn’t notice the glass cutting their hands and knees for the first three hours.

Steve Sailer
11/25/2014 6:25 am

– Second, a year and a half later, a male chauvinist pig shatters a bottle over the now activist Jackie’s face on Charlottesville’s main drag:

But payback for being so public on a campus accustomed to silence was swift. This past spring, in separate incidents, both Emily Renda and Jackie were harassed outside bars on the Corner by men who recognized them from presentations and called them “c***” and “feminazi bitch.” One flung a bottle at Jackie that broke on the side of her face, leaving a blood-red bruise around her eye.

But there’s no follow-up … other than Dean Nicole Eramo not reacting when Jackie tells her all about it:

“As Jackie wrapped up her story, she was disappointed by Eramo’s nonreaction. She’d expected shock, disgust, horror.

Look, this second attack on Jackie would quite possibly be the most notorious hate crime of the decade: there’d be national calls for not just Hate Crime charges but also Attempted Murder charges to be filed against her assailant … assuming it ever happened, which it almost certainly didn’t.

So what’s the point of Erdely including all these Shattered Glass literary clues that her story is a fabrication? Did they subconsciously slip in through some Freudian process? Did she put them there consciously to indicate guilt? Self-loathing? Or was Erdely trying to top her old boss? Was she playing a game to express her contempt for her audience by dangling evidence that she was engaged in a Shattered Glass-style hoax directly in front of everyone’s noses?

Perhaps our dominant culture demands so much lying about gender, rape, sexual orientation and the like that members of the media are shattering under the stress?



By the way, that’s Chloe Sevigny playing a character based on Hanna Rosin. Here’s Rosin’s husband David Plotz’s take on Shattered Glass:

Hayden Christensen plays the opaque, empty Glass, who is both weaker and more ambitious than his colleagues, cheating madly to win the approval he craves. Peter Sarsgaard as Lane is the moral center of the movie, an Old Testament kind of avenger, righteous but dark.

And Chloë Sevigny—that’s Oscar-nominated Chloë Sevigny!—plays Caitlin Avey, a character modeled on Hanna. In the movie, as in life, Caitlin/Hanna is a loyal and ferocious friend who is ultimately chastened by how she was suckered. This is fantasy come true: A Hollywood starlet dressed up in my wife’s clothes, talking sass at machine-gun speed like my wife, and looking as much like my wife as a blond straight-haired American can look like a brunet curly-haired Israeli.

Is Shattered Glass any good? I think so, but I don’t know. Lane—the real Lane—has described the experience of watching it as something like being tickled. I know what he means. It was so unsettling to see the fake Steve acting almost like Steve did, and the fake Hanna acting almost like Hanna did, and the fake Mike Kelly acting almost like Mike Kelly that my brain simply stuttered. (Most eerily, the director turned the character of Jonathan Chait, Steve’s other TNR friend, into a woman—then cast an actress who looks astonishingly like Chait himself.)

 
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  1. 19 year-old white female burned alive in black-gang infested area of rural Mississippi.

    http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/12/12/day-5-mississippi-burning-the-murder-of-jessica-lane-chambers-investigation-continues/

    • Replies: @The most deplorable one
    Dude, you are so late to that party.
  2. In the movie, as in life, Caitlin/Hanna [/Chloë] is a loyal and ferocious friend who is ultimately chastened by how she was suckered.

    “Suckered”?

    As this whole series of posts is inspired by (allegedly) forced fellatio, it seems apt to mention that Miss Sevigny herself took Gallo’s phallo in her maw a few years later in The Brown Bunny.

    Roger Ebert had a feud with the director. “I may be fat, but one day I will be thin. You will always be the director of The Brown Bunny.” That may explain why I gag whenever I see Chloë’s picture.

    Turning to the eugenics front, David Plotz wrote the bittersweet The Genius Factory, well worth reading.

    As with Bill Cosby’s Mansionmate Shel Silvestein having written “Cover of the Rolling Stone”, never to know that both would hit the headlines simultaneously four decades later, these are fun little synchronicities, as the late Lawrence Auster would call them.

    Kinkronicities, to be precise.

  3. Sorry I haven’t been following this story outside of here and WaPo, but have people looked into to her earlier work. Just a quick google search show’s she’s written on a ton of other…uh…politically…opportune topics (catholic rape, gays getting mocked, military rape, etc).

  4. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I think it was P.J. O’Rourke, after a long career in left-leaning journalism and 60’s radical chic (he claimed it was for the hippy girls and good times, but the careful reader has to wonder if he wasn’t also hitting The Man up for all that inside informant money), who said that at the end of it all what he had learned was “the awful power of make-believe.”

    Good line. The awful power of make-believe.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    after a long career in left-leaning journalism and 60′s radical chic

    About a half-dozen years tops. He was on the staff of National Lampoon (NOT a pc outlet) for much of the 1970s and took to libertarian commentary after 1982.
    , @Ivy
    Or, in his own mind, "The Aweful Power of Make-Believe"
  5. They called me Mr. Glass!

  6. “19 year-old white female burned alive in black-gang infested area of rural Mississippi.

    http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/12/12/day-5-mississippi-burning-the-murder-of-jessica-lane-chambers-investigation-continues/”

    She would still be alive today if she had purchased a White privilege card at Walmart or Target, they are on sale.

  7. Reminds me that cajun catfish is a mighty tasty meal.

  8. Maybe Sabrina actually inspired Glass’ fabrications with her early shenanigans, and she in turn was inspired witnessing Glass’ flameout to put his method to work for Justice and Ms Rubin’s career. Maybe she is signalling Glass directly, a private homage she thought she could get past the rubes.

    Maybe she has a “trolling the press” fallback of her own. It’s not too late, in fact, as she hasn’t gone on record yet–she could get the idea reading iSteve. I think Sailer may have handed the adventuress a play!

  9. I find it very weird that Glass was never forgiven by the press. He’s a certified lefty, and they always get forgiven. If Al Sharpton can be found guilty of libel, and start race riots, and deal drugs, and still be allowed back in as a reputable source….

    I think the reason might be that, at each natural point afterwards wherein Glass would have been able to come back, another lefty writer-is-lying scandal broke, and everyone referred back to Glass, keeping him in perpetual infamy and making him get an annual whipping.

    Jayson Blair, James Frey, J.T. Leroy, and now Sarah Erdely with some Lena Dunham (quietly) on the side. Heck, Lena Dunham should probably hire both Sarah and Jackie on staff at Girls as a reward, seeing as how their lies have kept Dunham’s lies about her fake rape while admitting to molesting her sister out of the news cycle these past few weeks.

    Either that or Peretz and the other individuals the Jewish Glass pissed off hold some huge personal grudges against him and have the means to enforce it. Kind of like Bernie Madoff: what made Madoff’s crime so infamous and has made him so hated (causing at least one of his sons to commit suicide) was the fact that Madoff is Jewish and he pulled his con on Jews. You don’t steal from your own kind!

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    Peretz testified as a character witness at a hearing held to evaluate Glass' application for the California Bar. Peretz is not bearing any grudges.
  10. I sort liken the men’s movement to Linux and Open Source.

    It kinda started slow and small, but then more and more men got in on it, and now it dwarfs what used to exist commercially around Unix and middleware.

    So just a quick peruse of Manosphere.com shows how the Open Sourcing Men’s Movement is just starting to just rip into the campus rape culture whatever. And that’s probably just one little arena of what’s out there.

    So this article from City Journal Magazine by Heather McDonald about the Campus Rape Myth was written about and linked:
    http://www.city-journal.org/2008/18_1_campus_rape.html

    It proposes this industry that has grown up around the Feminist Screech of Campus Rape. My favorite blurb was:

    “In a rape culture, which “condones physical and emotional terrorism against women as a norm,” sexual assault will wind up underreported, argued the director of Yale’s Sexual Harassment and Assault Resources and Education Center in a March 2007 newsletter. You don’t need evidence for the rape culture; you simply know that it exists. But if you do need evidence, the underreporting of rape is the best proof there is.”

    So it is one more extortion from Feminists to create more make-work by hijacking the system, and bureaucratizing Feminist belief by screaming, fake numbers, and some real insane logic: “the lack of reports is evidence of the crisis”. The article talks about “salesmen” that hit the road selling consulting and services, how to run freshman lectures, how to create panels, setting up rape crisis hotlines, and then ….

    Crickets.

    No students reported, none called the hot line. And when one actually did come forward then she is treated like Gold. And instead of being happy of no cases, administrators are flummoxed and even of a case where the Yale rape person was rather red faced when confronted with the fact that Harvard reported more rape cases than Yale, as if being needled over the football game. He inferred they must have cheated, double reported, shown cases that might not quite be classified as stringently as Yale does.

    So then apparently there is no greater way to get credentials in the industry that is better than getting raped. Or at least having a story that you were.

    So then the Open Source Boys start dragging out something referred to in another post:

    http://gotnews.com/yet-another-source-rollingstone-journalist-really-raped-uvahoax/

    About this Emily Renda person who is a UVa employee and member of some White House Task Force on Campus Rape. And …

    Inside the article is a photo of Emily Renda and you guessed it, Jackie …, sort of a selfie-ish happy pose carrying some little lap whiteboard with some AntiRape slogan on it.

    (Sort of an aside opinion here but in a campus like UVa, I just couldn’t see myself “raping” either one of these two. They both sort of fit my diagnosis for HPD attention whores, usually a low 5 to a low 6, where higher SMV girls don’t need to seek attention and lower SMV girls wouldn’t get any attention anyway. Maybe its just that I show my computer on a widescreen TV and it stretches the display but the girl on the left is looking like a bag of cheetos away from 175 pounds)

    Her story is similar, a very violent rape, strangulation to the point of blacking out, injuries to body and torso, yet she didn’t report the rape “because she didn’t want to distress the parents.

    So this story propelled her into being what one Manosphere poster called “an expert on Sexual Violence”. All the way to the White House. Another story suggests that [Jackie] was trying the same tactic and Emily passed on her yarn to the RS writer.

    So then there are jobs and jobs and more jobs, all on the public dollar, or the university dollar for women involved in this industry, all predicated on this epidemic that is obvious because it is so underreported.

    There was this joke Ross Perot used tell when talking about over staffing at the Dept of Agriculture. The local country farm agent was sitting at his desk crying and a co-worker asked what was wrong. The agent replied, “My farmer died.”

    Perhaps the same could hold for Rape Counselors at Universities, “My Rape Victim graduated.”

    When I was in university back in the late 70s/early 80s (after a tour in the Marines-just to admit my age), there was this course called Sex Roles. I took it because some co-ed said “It’s a good course”. I was festival of Male Bashing. And the big topic back in that day in all of the Sociology courses was the topic of “Wife Battering” and it also insisted there was evidence of a problem exactly because of Underreporting. So a whole industry and wholesale effects on Law Enforcement went into play over this Wife Battering epidemic.

    So then this year, I saw these numbers from CDC and DOJ about “Domestic Violence” and they show that “wives” are actually the least battered women of all groups, the highest was our heroic Single Mother.

    So then the Feminists went shopping for a new name for all of this on this horrible data about Wives being safe from battering husbands and pulled Intimate Partner Violence, inferring the choice of name was more about “inclusion” and less about data.

    Actually “wives” are just about the safest women there are. The DOJ crime reports show white wives as the lowest number of victims in every major category of crime.

    Dalrock mentions that the success of Feminism dictates making women actually believe they are the victims of abuse and exploitation by men. So these “wife” data values are quite pesky for them, higher income, college graduation rates of kids, higher longevity, and making wives fear husbands might be getting a little tougher once the woman actually marries.

    So like the Jesuits, they get at the girls as soon as they can, “Give us the girl and we’ll give you the woman”, sort of thing. So grab them at Freshman orientation, right as they come in the door and do not have a chance to actually meet the men first, with this “lurking predator” sitting next to them in class and don’t be fooled by lack of reported cases. All Men Are Rapists. Then create these cumbyyah groups were clatches of pumped and dumped fat 5s can all sit around, burn candles, and take back the night.

    And jobs, jobs, jobs.

  11. “I don’t know if Erdely figured out that Jackie was a catfisher”

    Surely Erdely is the primary catfisher here? There must be huge numbers of Jackies on campuses, Erdely picked one and then massively embellished an already dubious story.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    There actually are not. Most kids at the big State U's are pretty grounded and goal-oriented.
  12. Jackie-girl’s three friends interviewed on TV by ABC news:

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/questions-raised-rolling-stones-uva-rape-story/story?id=27537952

    Outside of revealing their faces and true identities it doesn’t add more info than the WaPo expose. Which, by the way, shows that Rubin Erdely was just as dishonest as Jackie:

    “The Rolling Stone article also said that Randall declined to be interviewed, “citing his loyalty to his own frat.” He told The Post that he was never contacted by Rolling Stone and would have agreed to an interview.”

  13. And gee isn’t it so very coincidental that painfully obvious fraudsters like Glass and Rubin Erdely are able to survive so long by defaming conservatives and conservative institutions. It’s almost like this corruption is normative among journalists and only the most egregious offenders (eventually) get punished.

    • Replies: @FactsAreImportant

    And gee isn’t it so very coincidental that painfully obvious fraudsters like Glass and Rubin Erdely are able to survive so long by defaming conservatives and conservative institutions. It’s almost like this corruption is normative among journalists and only the most egregious offenders (eventually) get punished.
     
    Lena Dunham too? She describes her alleged rapist as a Republican. What are the odds given that Republicans must be incredibly rare at Oberlin? What are the odds that she would allow a well-known Republican to even get close to her?

    Regarding Lena's story, I'm thinking that she intentionally made up ludicrous details to describe her alleged attacker so that no one would fit the description, and that she did this to avoid libel accusations. Every descriptor is highly unlikely: purple cowboy boots, big mustache, Republican (at Oberlin), unusual name (Barry), and host of an apparently non-existent talk show. Perhaps the legal department at her publisher supported this, to avoid libel suits.

    She has already admitted that the name was made up, so why not the other descriptors? This might actually be a bit praiseworthy in that it might reflect an intention to not harm any actual person. Slandering Republicans is just a side benefit, and, in her world, slandering Republicans is probably just a given, like water is a given to a fish.

    The problem is, it raises questions about the other details of the alleged "rape". Are those made up too? Is it just a given to her that young college women suffer outrageous sexual harassment? Is that just more water that she swims in?
  14. @whorefinder
    I find it very weird that Glass was never forgiven by the press. He's a certified lefty, and they always get forgiven. If Al Sharpton can be found guilty of libel, and start race riots, and deal drugs, and still be allowed back in as a reputable source....

    I think the reason might be that, at each natural point afterwards wherein Glass would have been able to come back, another lefty writer-is-lying scandal broke, and everyone referred back to Glass, keeping him in perpetual infamy and making him get an annual whipping.

    Jayson Blair, James Frey, J.T. Leroy, and now Sarah Erdely with some Lena Dunham (quietly) on the side. Heck, Lena Dunham should probably hire both Sarah and Jackie on staff at Girls as a reward, seeing as how their lies have kept Dunham's lies about her fake rape while admitting to molesting her sister out of the news cycle these past few weeks.

    Either that or Peretz and the other individuals the Jewish Glass pissed off hold some huge personal grudges against him and have the means to enforce it. Kind of like Bernie Madoff: what made Madoff's crime so infamous and has made him so hated (causing at least one of his sons to commit suicide) was the fact that Madoff is Jewish and he pulled his con on Jews. You don't steal from your own kind!

    Peretz testified as a character witness at a hearing held to evaluate Glass’ application for the California Bar. Peretz is not bearing any grudges.

  15. @anonymous
    I think it was P.J. O'Rourke, after a long career in left-leaning journalism and 60's radical chic (he claimed it was for the hippy girls and good times, but the careful reader has to wonder if he wasn't also hitting The Man up for all that inside informant money), who said that at the end of it all what he had learned was "the awful power of make-believe."

    Good line. The awful power of make-believe.

    after a long career in left-leaning journalism and 60′s radical chic

    About a half-dozen years tops. He was on the staff of National Lampoon (NOT a pc outlet) for much of the 1970s and took to libertarian commentary after 1982.

  16. Was she playing a game to express her contempt for her audience by dangling evidence that she was engaged in a Shattered Glass-style hoax directly in front of everyone’s noses?

    If her intent truly was to deceive, yes. I’ve noticed a lot of disingenuous articles lately, including that one you posted some time back about how the US should be like Qatar. Lots of journalists are so full of it these days that they hardly even seem to be trying to hide their contempt by making what they write plausible. Take the latest Kristof piece on a white minority, for example. It was a high school sophomore quality argument.

    But I read Erdely’s old pieces, and she has a true fascination with con-artists. She seems to find them and their stories extremely compelling. She’s written about a number of frauds, and many of her pieces are about competing versions of the truth where the facts are ambiguous. This goes back to the 90s.

    She seems to have more of an attorney’s view of truth than a journalist’s; it’s pliable and subjective, and above all a useful concept. I don’t think she sets out to deceive, but instead is fixated on this notion of multiple subjective truths, and perhaps the fact that humans are all natural fabulists by design (it’s true — our brains make up reasons for why we do what we do on the fly, and they often have nothing whatsoever to do with reality).

    It seems that this sort of journalism – delving into weird worlds where the facts are far from apparent – is her schtick. Some of her other articles have also contained extraordinarily implausible details, such as, for example, a Duke family heir shooting a stray skunk that wandered into his house with a machine gun in front of his children (who on earth would shoot a skunk of all creatures in his own house?). She likes to interview people who make wild accusations, and publishes all the salacious details.

    So the Rolling Stone article was no aberration, and the shattered glass metaphor she chose for the article that finally brought her down may have merely been a highly ironic coincidence. Maybe Glass himself came to mind as she listened to implausible sounding stories about rape, but she’d published so many other implausible stories that I doubt it was because she knew the jig was finally up. It’s more likely that members of Rape, inc. at UVa came up with the silly stories about beer bottles and glass tables and she ran with it.

    Focusing on Steven Glass is interesting and relevant to a degree, but doing so too much is to strain at a gnat and swallow a camel.

    Another factor is that we tend to underestimate the fear that being “exposed” by a journalist provokes in the mind of the average American. People are truly terrified by the prospect of being outed. Irrationally so, I’d say, but then again I don’t have much to lose. This fear makes people reluctant to confront journalists and gives them a sense of license, which is one reason journalistic ethics are so important. Erdely may have simply become accustomed to publishing sensational and highly damaging stories, such as the attacks on the Catholic Church and US armed forces, without ever having to face any consequences for doing so. Maybe this made her sloppy, and hubris began to characterize her work.

    I contend that she would have pulled this off only a decade ago, and probably less. But there has been a highly vocal community that has arisen in response to the epidemic of perjury and false accusations of sexual assault, violence against women, etc. This community has published so much on this subject over the past five years that it has begun to make some cultural waves. And now, some intrepid journalists like Bradley feel confident enough to ever so carefully point out flaws in these stories that never would have been questioned by anyone other than a legal defense team ten years ago.

    • Replies: @The most deplorable one
    And the DoJ tells us:

    Females ages 18 to 24 had higher rates of rape and
    sexual assault than females in other age groups
     
    Ummm, hang on guys, I though that all women, from birth to death had equal probabilities of being raped.

    Have you guys at the DoJ not gotten the memo? The President doesn't believe you.

    For the period 1995–2013, females ages 18 to 24 not enrolled
    in a post-secondary school were 1.2 times more likely to
    experience rape and sexual assault victimization (7.6 per
    1,000), compared to students in the same age range (6.1 per
    1,000) (table 1). Nonstudents (65,700) also accounted for
    more than double the number of rape and sexual assault
    victimizations as students (31,300).
     
    Uh oh. Caught the DoJ in a lie. Why are you lying? It's really 1 in five!!!
  17. Here’s T. Shapiro’s latest WaPo story which just reiterates some of his earlier article and reports that the three friends have come forward to CBS and ABC.

    On second thought the ABC story does give a crucial new detail: Jackie ONLY contacted her crush Ryan (“Randall”) that night to come save/comfort her (damsel in distress gambit). Ryan is the one who asked Alex (“Andy”) to come. And Jackie specifically told them NOT to bring that girl, who came along anyway but stayed at a distance. Note that the meanest fake quotes Jackie gave to Rubin Erdely were reserved for this girl who she didn’t want there (“the self-described slut queen asked why didn’t you just enjoy the gang-rape!”).

  18. “How easy it is to fool the mainstream press” is one lesson evident in the oeuvre of Sabrina Rubin Erdely (who, perhaps not coincidentally, worked for Kaplan at Philadelphia at the time of Glass’s exposure in 1998), with her tales of, say, a neo-Nazi viciously attacking a transgender individual’s scissors with his swastika-tattooed chest.

    Brings to mind Elvis Costello’s opener: “Calling Mr. Oswald with the swastika tattoo.” And I guess he was right: evidently everything does mean less than zero.

  19. Mirror mirror on the wall…

    who’s the biggest liar of them all?

  20. “I only read one of Glass’s articles in TNR back in the 1990s, “Praised Be Greenspan” which Glass co-authored with the now prominent Jonathan Chait about Wall Street cultists who supposedly worship the Fed Chairman. It was ludicrous.”

    Given Wall Street behavior, not really.

  21. By the way, that’s Chloe Sevigny playing a character based on Hanna Rosin.

    Oh man, that’s funny. That reminds me of James Brolin playing Pee-wee Herman at the end of Pee-wee’s Big Adventure.

  22. The Jordan Belfort of the media.

    Or Madoffing of the news.

  23. I find it very weird that Glass was never forgiven by the press. He’s a certified lefty, and they always get forgiven. If Al Sharpton can be found guilty of libel, and start race riots, and deal drugs, and still be allowed back in as a reputable source….

    On another thread I said that Sharpton has the best survival skills of any political figure currently operating.After all, it takes a special level of skill to survive both the Tawana Brawley hoax and instigating an anti-Jewish riot (cf the Crown Heights Riot). For that matter, Sharpton has done more than survive, he has triumphed, basically elbowing aside Jesse Jackson as the de facto spokesman for Black America

    Writers love writing about glass.

    God yes:

    Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (“Mirror, Mirror on the wall….”

    Star Trek: The Mirror universe episodes (“Mirror, Mirror,” “Through the Looking Glass,” “In a Mirror, Darkly,” “Shattered Mirror,” etc)

    Tennyson’s “Lady of Shalott”, condemned to look at life only though her mirror.One day she gives in and looks directly at Sir Lancelot (“The mirror crack’d from side to side; / ‘The curse is come upon me,’ cried / The Lady of Shalott.”)

    The Picture of Dorian Gray:In a memorable scene, Dorian looks at his eponymous picture via the aid of a mirror (“He loathed his own beauty, and flinging the mirror on the floor, crushed it into silver splinters beneath his heel.”)

    Borges Book of Imaginary Beings: Borges describes the fauna of mirrors, creatures who are condemned to imitate the actions of the beings who live on the other side of the mirror.One day, though, the mirror fauna will rise up, leave their specular realm, and invade ours….

    RE: Connections between Erdely and Glass,

    Well, I think that this piece shows certain affinities:

    On the fourth floor of Washington’s Omni Shoreham Hotel, eight young men sit facing each other on the edge of a pair of beds. They are all 20 or 21 and are enrolled in Midwestern colleges. Each is wearing a white or blue shirt with the top button unfastened, and each has his striped tie loosened. One of the young men, an Ohioan, is wearing a green and white button that reads: “Save the Males.” The minibar is open and empty little bottles of booze are scattered on the carpet. On the bed, a Gideon Bible, used earlier in the night to resolve an argument, is open to Exodus. In the bathroom, the tub is filled with ice and the remnants of three cases of Coors Light. The young men pass around a joint, counterclockwise…

    Over the next hour, in a haze of beer and pot, and in between rantings about feminists, gays and political correctness, the young men hatch a plan. Seth, a meaty quarterback from a small college in Indiana, and two others will drive to a local bar. There, the three will choose the ugliest and loneliest woman they can find. “Get us a real heifer, the fatter the better, bad acne would be a bonus,” Michael shouts. He is so drunk he doesn’t know he is shouting. Seth will lure the victim, whom they call a “whale,” back to the hotel room. The five who stay behind will hide under the beds. After Seth undresses the whale, the five will jump out and shout, “We’re beaching! Whale spotted!” They will take a photograph of the unfortunate woman.

    From his article “Spring Breakdown”

    http://wp.lps.org/akabour/files/2013/12/Spring-Breakdown-Stephen-Glass.pdf

    I see a lot of continuity with Erdely (White Gentiles as brutal misogynists, etc)

    • Replies: @The most deplorable one
    It seems that scientists are also enthralled by mirrors ...

    Consider mirror neurons and other things.
    , @Art Deco
    basically elbowing aside Jesse Jackson as the de facto spokesman for Black America

    No, as the media's favorite freak on the Rolodex. Jackson ca. 1983 had a favorability rating north of 90% among blacks and rolled up massive majorities among black Democrats in primaries all over the United States in 1984 and 1988, winning pluralities of the total vote in some states. Sharpton placed satisfactorily in a low turnout Democratic primary in New York City in 1997 (losing to a caricature like Ruth Messenger).

    Sharpton's career is a testament of the refusal of the media to apply any investigative muscle to examining his affairs (too busy doing fishing expeditions of Sarah Palin's e-mails) and the refusal of the court system to sanction him for non-compliance. A levy of his house and personal property should have been undertaken to satisfy civil suits years ago.

    However, he's 60 and looks ill. His best days are not ahead of him. What's interesting is the absence of anyone coming down the pipeline behind him. Sharpton's been a household name in New York since 1987 and Jackson's been a public figure since 1968. It's conceivable that these sorts of road shows have played themselves out.
  24. @Simon in London
    "I don’t know if Erdely figured out that Jackie was a catfisher"

    Surely Erdely is the primary catfisher here? There must be huge numbers of Jackies on campuses, Erdely picked one and then massively embellished an already dubious story.

    There actually are not. Most kids at the big State U’s are pretty grounded and goal-oriented.

    • Replies: @dearieme
    "Most kids at the big State U’s are pretty grounded and goal-oriented."


    Does that mean tedious and earnest, or something more interesting?
  25. Well, as Hanlon’s razor has it:

    Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

    That said, in Erdely’s case it was clearly a combination of both.

    But what was the ratio? Aye, there’s the rub.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
    "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
    That said, in Erdely’s case it was clearly a combination of both."

    More like malice aided-and-abetted by Media cowardice and hysteria.

    Stupidity tends to be harmless and childish. I wouldn't call anything in this particular story 'stupid'.
    Stupidity is accidental.
    Sabrina clearly did what she did because she grew up in the media world and understood its inner-workings. From high school to the newsroom, she never met anyone but people with her prejudices and agendas. She felt protected. So, in this climate, she was smart to used the mode of hysteria.

    And it paid off beautifully... until someone on the internet blew the whistle and the story became viral.

    Anyway, in a world where everyone agrees with everyone and is agreed on who the Evil Enemy is, everyone becomes blind to his/her own prejudices. Since everyone is agreed, everyone thinks he or she is right all the time.

    The Richard guy who blew the whistle was making just that point. Liberalism is supposed to be anti-prejudice, but in an industry where everyone agrees on everything, there's a kneejerk tendency to believe what people want to believe since everyone thinks he or she is so right all the time. But when that happens, it's no longer truth-seeking journalism but New Prejudice chasing after Old Prejudice that is becoming ever more rare, especially as number of white males in colleges keep shrinking.

  26. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:
    @randallr
    19 year-old white female burned alive in black-gang infested area of rural Mississippi.

    http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/12/12/day-5-mississippi-burning-the-murder-of-jessica-lane-chambers-investigation-continues/

    Dude, you are so late to that party.

  27. @The Anti-Gnostic
    There actually are not. Most kids at the big State U's are pretty grounded and goal-oriented.

    “Most kids at the big State U’s are pretty grounded and goal-oriented.”

    Does that mean tedious and earnest, or something more interesting?

    • Replies: @black sea
    Interesting people are thin on the ground everywhere. However, flagship state schools have tens of thousands of students and attract a broad enough range of abilities and attributes so that some of those people are far on the right hand side of whatever curve might measure "interesting." For example, I know -- distantly -- a guy who started out at a community college, then moved on to Michigan State. He's now a professor of physics at Ohio State. I can't really say how interesting he is, because I've only met him briefly once or twice, but this is not the typical trajectory for a community college student.

    I also have a friend who attended the University of Georgia, got her Masters from Oxford, and more recently received a MacArthur fellowship (the so called "genius" grant) as a poet and translator.

    Of course, lots of people probably wouldn't find either of these two individuals interesting, but it may give you an idea. Most large state schools have, admittedly, only a minority, of such students.
  28. @George Glass
    And gee isn't it so very coincidental that painfully obvious fraudsters like Glass and Rubin Erdely are able to survive so long by defaming conservatives and conservative institutions. It's almost like this corruption is normative among journalists and only the most egregious offenders (eventually) get punished.

    And gee isn’t it so very coincidental that painfully obvious fraudsters like Glass and Rubin Erdely are able to survive so long by defaming conservatives and conservative institutions. It’s almost like this corruption is normative among journalists and only the most egregious offenders (eventually) get punished.

    Lena Dunham too? She describes her alleged rapist as a Republican. What are the odds given that Republicans must be incredibly rare at Oberlin? What are the odds that she would allow a well-known Republican to even get close to her?

    Regarding Lena’s story, I’m thinking that she intentionally made up ludicrous details to describe her alleged attacker so that no one would fit the description, and that she did this to avoid libel accusations. Every descriptor is highly unlikely: purple cowboy boots, big mustache, Republican (at Oberlin), unusual name (Barry), and host of an apparently non-existent talk show. Perhaps the legal department at her publisher supported this, to avoid libel suits.

    She has already admitted that the name was made up, so why not the other descriptors? This might actually be a bit praiseworthy in that it might reflect an intention to not harm any actual person. Slandering Republicans is just a side benefit, and, in her world, slandering Republicans is probably just a given, like water is a given to a fish.

    The problem is, it raises questions about the other details of the alleged “rape”. Are those made up too? Is it just a given to her that young college women suffer outrageous sexual harassment? Is that just more water that she swims in?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    What are the odds that [Lena Dunham] would allow a well-known Republican to even get close to her?
     
    Low. Even in the same room.

    Angie Dickinson claimed she's never knowingly slept with a Republican. And she's had plenty of time-- I'm older than Steve, and Angie's older than my mom.
  29. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:
    @syonredux

    I find it very weird that Glass was never forgiven by the press. He’s a certified lefty, and they always get forgiven. If Al Sharpton can be found guilty of libel, and start race riots, and deal drugs, and still be allowed back in as a reputable source….
     
    On another thread I said that Sharpton has the best survival skills of any political figure currently operating.After all, it takes a special level of skill to survive both the Tawana Brawley hoax and instigating an anti-Jewish riot (cf the Crown Heights Riot). For that matter, Sharpton has done more than survive, he has triumphed, basically elbowing aside Jesse Jackson as the de facto spokesman for Black America

    Writers love writing about glass.
     
    God yes:

    Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs ("Mirror, Mirror on the wall...."

    Star Trek: The Mirror universe episodes ("Mirror, Mirror," "Through the Looking Glass," "In a Mirror, Darkly," "Shattered Mirror," etc)

    Tennyson's "Lady of Shalott", condemned to look at life only though her mirror.One day she gives in and looks directly at Sir Lancelot ("The mirror crack'd from side to side; / 'The curse is come upon me,' cried / The Lady of Shalott.")

    The Picture of Dorian Gray:In a memorable scene, Dorian looks at his eponymous picture via the aid of a mirror ("He loathed his own beauty, and flinging the mirror on the floor, crushed it into silver splinters beneath his heel.")

    Borges Book of Imaginary Beings: Borges describes the fauna of mirrors, creatures who are condemned to imitate the actions of the beings who live on the other side of the mirror.One day, though, the mirror fauna will rise up, leave their specular realm, and invade ours....


    RE: Connections between Erdely and Glass,

    Well, I think that this piece shows certain affinities:

    On the fourth floor of Washington’s Omni Shoreham Hotel, eight young men sit facing each other on the edge of a pair of beds. They are all 20 or 21 and are enrolled in Midwestern colleges. Each is wearing a white or blue shirt with the top button unfastened, and each has his striped tie loosened. One of the young men, an Ohioan, is wearing a green and white button that reads: “Save the Males.” The minibar is open and empty little bottles of booze are scattered on the carpet. On the bed, a Gideon Bible, used earlier in the night to resolve an argument, is open to Exodus. In the bathroom, the tub is filled with ice and the remnants of three cases of Coors Light. The young men pass around a joint, counterclockwise…

    Over the next hour, in a haze of beer and pot, and in between rantings about feminists, gays and political correctness, the young men hatch a plan. Seth, a meaty quarterback from a small college in Indiana, and two others will drive to a local bar. There, the three will choose the ugliest and loneliest woman they can find. “Get us a real heifer, the fatter the better, bad acne would be a bonus,” Michael shouts. He is so drunk he doesn’t know he is shouting. Seth will lure the victim, whom they call a “whale,” back to the hotel room. The five who stay behind will hide under the beds. After Seth undresses the whale, the five will jump out and shout, “We’re beaching! Whale spotted!” They will take a photograph of the unfortunate woman.

    From his article “Spring Breakdown”
     
    http://wp.lps.org/akabour/files/2013/12/Spring-Breakdown-Stephen-Glass.pdf

    I see a lot of continuity with Erdely (White Gentiles as brutal misogynists, etc)

    It seems that scientists are also enthralled by mirrors …

    Consider mirror neurons and other things.

  30. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:
    @Bill P

    Was she playing a game to express her contempt for her audience by dangling evidence that she was engaged in a Shattered Glass-style hoax directly in front of everyone’s noses?
     
    If her intent truly was to deceive, yes. I've noticed a lot of disingenuous articles lately, including that one you posted some time back about how the US should be like Qatar. Lots of journalists are so full of it these days that they hardly even seem to be trying to hide their contempt by making what they write plausible. Take the latest Kristof piece on a white minority, for example. It was a high school sophomore quality argument.

    But I read Erdely's old pieces, and she has a true fascination with con-artists. She seems to find them and their stories extremely compelling. She's written about a number of frauds, and many of her pieces are about competing versions of the truth where the facts are ambiguous. This goes back to the 90s.

    She seems to have more of an attorney's view of truth than a journalist's; it's pliable and subjective, and above all a useful concept. I don't think she sets out to deceive, but instead is fixated on this notion of multiple subjective truths, and perhaps the fact that humans are all natural fabulists by design (it's true -- our brains make up reasons for why we do what we do on the fly, and they often have nothing whatsoever to do with reality).

    It seems that this sort of journalism - delving into weird worlds where the facts are far from apparent - is her schtick. Some of her other articles have also contained extraordinarily implausible details, such as, for example, a Duke family heir shooting a stray skunk that wandered into his house with a machine gun in front of his children (who on earth would shoot a skunk of all creatures in his own house?). She likes to interview people who make wild accusations, and publishes all the salacious details.

    So the Rolling Stone article was no aberration, and the shattered glass metaphor she chose for the article that finally brought her down may have merely been a highly ironic coincidence. Maybe Glass himself came to mind as she listened to implausible sounding stories about rape, but she'd published so many other implausible stories that I doubt it was because she knew the jig was finally up. It's more likely that members of Rape, inc. at UVa came up with the silly stories about beer bottles and glass tables and she ran with it.

    Focusing on Steven Glass is interesting and relevant to a degree, but doing so too much is to strain at a gnat and swallow a camel.

    Another factor is that we tend to underestimate the fear that being "exposed" by a journalist provokes in the mind of the average American. People are truly terrified by the prospect of being outed. Irrationally so, I'd say, but then again I don't have much to lose. This fear makes people reluctant to confront journalists and gives them a sense of license, which is one reason journalistic ethics are so important. Erdely may have simply become accustomed to publishing sensational and highly damaging stories, such as the attacks on the Catholic Church and US armed forces, without ever having to face any consequences for doing so. Maybe this made her sloppy, and hubris began to characterize her work.

    I contend that she would have pulled this off only a decade ago, and probably less. But there has been a highly vocal community that has arisen in response to the epidemic of perjury and false accusations of sexual assault, violence against women, etc. This community has published so much on this subject over the past five years that it has begun to make some cultural waves. And now, some intrepid journalists like Bradley feel confident enough to ever so carefully point out flaws in these stories that never would have been questioned by anyone other than a legal defense team ten years ago.

    And the DoJ tells us:

    Females ages 18 to 24 had higher rates of rape and
    sexual assault than females in other age groups

    Ummm, hang on guys, I though that all women, from birth to death had equal probabilities of being raped.

    Have you guys at the DoJ not gotten the memo? The President doesn’t believe you.

    For the period 1995–2013, females ages 18 to 24 not enrolled
    in a post-secondary school were 1.2 times more likely to
    experience rape and sexual assault victimization (7.6 per
    1,000), compared to students in the same age range (6.1 per
    1,000) (table 1). Nonstudents (65,700) also accounted for
    more than double the number of rape and sexual assault
    victimizations as students (31,300).

    Uh oh. Caught the DoJ in a lie. Why are you lying? It’s really 1 in five!!!

  31. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Speaking of Hate Crime Hoaxes, there was one during my time at UVA that didn’t quite make the news. A black female student named Daisy Lundy (who I believe was related to the football team’s running back of the time) was running for class president against a white male. As the election date approached, it appeared that the white male was going to win. A day or two before the election, a scandal erupted when Lundy reported that some unidentifiable white male had attacked her. The completely implausible (but believed without possibility of doubt) story was as follows:

    Lundy was sitting in her car at a red light at the busiest and most trafficked intersection in town at approximately 3AM, when unidentifiable white male apparently ran up to her car, reached in the window, called her an n-word (probably allegedly said something like “we’re not having a n****r as president”) and slammed her head against the steering wheel of her car, then ran off. No other witnesses, no injuries, no nothing. Obviously there was not the slightest bit of skepticism about this and we were lectured about the “climate of hate” for the rest of the semester.

    I don’t remember who ended up winning the election, but I do know that upon graduation Lundy was hired in a plum job with the Diversity department of the University.

  32. @syonredux

    I find it very weird that Glass was never forgiven by the press. He’s a certified lefty, and they always get forgiven. If Al Sharpton can be found guilty of libel, and start race riots, and deal drugs, and still be allowed back in as a reputable source….
     
    On another thread I said that Sharpton has the best survival skills of any political figure currently operating.After all, it takes a special level of skill to survive both the Tawana Brawley hoax and instigating an anti-Jewish riot (cf the Crown Heights Riot). For that matter, Sharpton has done more than survive, he has triumphed, basically elbowing aside Jesse Jackson as the de facto spokesman for Black America

    Writers love writing about glass.
     
    God yes:

    Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs ("Mirror, Mirror on the wall...."

    Star Trek: The Mirror universe episodes ("Mirror, Mirror," "Through the Looking Glass," "In a Mirror, Darkly," "Shattered Mirror," etc)

    Tennyson's "Lady of Shalott", condemned to look at life only though her mirror.One day she gives in and looks directly at Sir Lancelot ("The mirror crack'd from side to side; / 'The curse is come upon me,' cried / The Lady of Shalott.")

    The Picture of Dorian Gray:In a memorable scene, Dorian looks at his eponymous picture via the aid of a mirror ("He loathed his own beauty, and flinging the mirror on the floor, crushed it into silver splinters beneath his heel.")

    Borges Book of Imaginary Beings: Borges describes the fauna of mirrors, creatures who are condemned to imitate the actions of the beings who live on the other side of the mirror.One day, though, the mirror fauna will rise up, leave their specular realm, and invade ours....


    RE: Connections between Erdely and Glass,

    Well, I think that this piece shows certain affinities:

    On the fourth floor of Washington’s Omni Shoreham Hotel, eight young men sit facing each other on the edge of a pair of beds. They are all 20 or 21 and are enrolled in Midwestern colleges. Each is wearing a white or blue shirt with the top button unfastened, and each has his striped tie loosened. One of the young men, an Ohioan, is wearing a green and white button that reads: “Save the Males.” The minibar is open and empty little bottles of booze are scattered on the carpet. On the bed, a Gideon Bible, used earlier in the night to resolve an argument, is open to Exodus. In the bathroom, the tub is filled with ice and the remnants of three cases of Coors Light. The young men pass around a joint, counterclockwise…

    Over the next hour, in a haze of beer and pot, and in between rantings about feminists, gays and political correctness, the young men hatch a plan. Seth, a meaty quarterback from a small college in Indiana, and two others will drive to a local bar. There, the three will choose the ugliest and loneliest woman they can find. “Get us a real heifer, the fatter the better, bad acne would be a bonus,” Michael shouts. He is so drunk he doesn’t know he is shouting. Seth will lure the victim, whom they call a “whale,” back to the hotel room. The five who stay behind will hide under the beds. After Seth undresses the whale, the five will jump out and shout, “We’re beaching! Whale spotted!” They will take a photograph of the unfortunate woman.

    From his article “Spring Breakdown”
     
    http://wp.lps.org/akabour/files/2013/12/Spring-Breakdown-Stephen-Glass.pdf

    I see a lot of continuity with Erdely (White Gentiles as brutal misogynists, etc)

    basically elbowing aside Jesse Jackson as the de facto spokesman for Black America

    No, as the media’s favorite freak on the Rolodex. Jackson ca. 1983 had a favorability rating north of 90% among blacks and rolled up massive majorities among black Democrats in primaries all over the United States in 1984 and 1988, winning pluralities of the total vote in some states. Sharpton placed satisfactorily in a low turnout Democratic primary in New York City in 1997 (losing to a caricature like Ruth Messenger).

    Sharpton’s career is a testament of the refusal of the media to apply any investigative muscle to examining his affairs (too busy doing fishing expeditions of Sarah Palin’s e-mails) and the refusal of the court system to sanction him for non-compliance. A levy of his house and personal property should have been undertaken to satisfy civil suits years ago.

    However, he’s 60 and looks ill. His best days are not ahead of him. What’s interesting is the absence of anyone coming down the pipeline behind him. Sharpton’s been a household name in New York since 1987 and Jackson’s been a public figure since 1968. It’s conceivable that these sorts of road shows have played themselves out.

    • Replies: @syonredux

    basically elbowing aside Jesse Jackson as the de facto spokesman for Black America

    No, as the media’s favorite freak on the Rolodex.
     
    I don't know.It seems to me that Sharpton does pretty well for a "freak on a Rolodex" (do people still have those?):

    This, the tail end of 2014, is Al Sharpton’s moment.

    Despite the firebrand minister’s shrinking physical stature, his presence on the national stage has never loomed larger. From Ferguson to Cleveland to Staten Island, black men dying at the hands of police have catapulted America’s racial obsession to new heights — carrying Sharpton along with it.

    He stands solemnly with Michael Brown’s family at televised press conferences. He appears alongside Eric Garner’s grieving widow on Meet the Press. He delivers nightly sermons on race from his prime-time perch at MSNBC. Though the rehabilitation is far from perfect, it’s a far cry from the days of Tawana Brawley, Freddie’s Fashion Mart, and “white interlopers.”
     

    Considered politically toxic by Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, Sharpton has been enthusiastically embraced by President Obama. He has bragged about helping to pick a new attorney general and communed with the current one. In fact, a much-quoted Politico profile last summer described Sharpton as Obama’s “go-to man on race.”
     

    Given the reports of phone calls and text messages frequently exchanged between Sharpton and top Obama officials, a complete accounting of the relationship may be impossible. But a perusal of the White House visitor log — which shows 61 visits by Sharpton since 2009 — illustrates the extraordinary access Sharpton has had to the president and his top advisers.

    Thirty-four of Sharpton’s visits were for White House events like high-profile nominations, bill signings, and soirées. Some, like the February 9, 2010, “Celebration of Music from the Civil Rights Movement,” seem well within Sharpton’s wheelhouse. But many more — including a March 18, 2010, signing ceremony for a “jobs bill” and a May 19, 2010, event honoring visiting Mexican president Felipe Calderón — leave one wondering where Sharpton’s expertise enters the picture. Others — such as the Obamas’ 2011 Super Bowl party, small-scale movie screenings in February 2011 and April 2013, and especially the president’s birthday party in August 2011 — speak to a close personal relationship between Sharpton and the first family.

     


    Sharpton has participated in ten of these highly publicized sit-downs, with both the White House and Sharpton himself pushing news of the conclaves to national media outlets. Sharpton first sat in the Oval Office on May 7, 2009, to discuss equality in education with New York mayor Michael Bloomberg and former House speaker Newt Gingrich. On February 3, 2010, Sharpton and three other civil-rights leaders met with Obama on job creation; on April 19, 2011, the topic was immigration. July 2012 saw another high-profile education meeting, and a post-reelection confab with MSNBC progressives was held on December 4. On-the-record meetings in 2013 and 2014 focused on voting rights and civil-rights initiatives like My Brother’s Keeper.
     
    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/394476/al-sharpton-white-house-brendan-bordelon
    , @Marty
    Don't agree with your prediction, but the does look sick as hell. Any rumors that he was poofting?
  33. Off-topic: English movie director Mike Figgis was being discussed here a week or two ago, and the fact that he has some cousins resident in Ireland was taken unquestioningly by several posters as proof that he himself “is” Irish (and has Irish facial features, a sense of displacement that only an Irishman in a foreign land can feel, etc etc).

    The opposite appears to be the case: “Figgis” is an old English name, originally from the eastern shires, and any Figgises in Ireland are presumably descended from English settlers either ancient or modern (or are actual English immigrants).

    Just thought I’d point that out.

  34. (I confess I’m only paying a little attention now.)

    Does this mean the lesson Erdely took from Glass’ experience is that you can get a book deal out of it (and should probably try to set up film deals, too, while you’re at it?)?

    We’ve seen the indications that Erdely has book & film deals in the pipeline. If they come through, can we safely say that Hollywood wants to send the message that it will set up retirement packages for Jewish “journalists” who get caught passing their fiction off as journalism?

    I find it very weird that Glass was never forgiven by the press. He’s a certified lefty, and they always get forgiven. If Al Sharpton can be found guilty of libel, and start race riots, and deal drugs, and still be allowed back in as a reputable source….

    The press that printed his subsequent book seems to have forgiven him.

    And gee isn’t it so very coincidental that painfully obvious fraudsters like Glass and Rubin Erdely are able to survive so long by defaming conservatives and conservative institutions. It’s almost like this corruption is normative among journalists and only the most egregious offenders (eventually) get punished.

    And, by “punished,” we mean “given a nice fat book/movie deal to fund your retirement. Maybe several.”

    Peretz testified as a character witness at a hearing held to evaluate Glass’ application for the California Bar. Peretz is not bearing any grudges.

  35. Another Glass in the literary tradition — Salinger’s Seymour Glass (See-more-glass).

  36. Anyone here heard about one of Erdely’s previous stories about rapist priests that is starting to catch some scrutiny lately? Seems that article got a couple priests thrown in jail – perhaps wrongfully – and one of them just died in prison a month ago.

    That’s actually pretty serious stuff if they are innocent. Erdely may have actually helped take away a few innocent men’s freedom by publishing a story told by a junkie and habitual liar.

  37. Priss Factor [AKA "dna turtles"] says:

    This is a horrific story:

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/01/18/saudi-journalist-religious-police-made-15-school-girls-burn-to-death-because-they-were-not-wearing-hijabs/

    I respect all cultures, but when cultural taboos are pushed to this extent, things become evil. It’s one thing to preserve and defend Muslim values. But when it is taken too far, it prefers dogma over lives.
    A form of Sharia Law in Saudi Arabia sacrificed a dozen school girls to a fire than save them because they weren’t properly attired and unfit to appear in public.

    I think all of us in the West, ‘left’ and ‘right’ and of all races, can agree on the horror of what happened in Saudi Arabia.
    And we are apt to conclude that despite all the faults of the West, at least WE don’t act like Saudis.

    But we shouldn’t be too quick to pat ourselves on the back. After all, something similar is now prevalent in the West. Perhaps it can be called the Pariah Law.
    According to the neo-religion of PC, nothing is more wicked and evil than white identity, interests, unity, consciousness. It is the Great Satan according to elite powers that dominate the governments, banks, colleges, courts, media, and etc.
    Therefore, it’s deemed not only okay but necessary to sacrifice truth, justice, and even lives in order to uphold the Pariah Law.

    We revile the Saudis for favoring Sharia Law over human lives, but what happened in Rotterham? Wasn’t the health, well-being, justice, and even lives of many white girls sacrificed in the name of Pariah Law? Since the truth of this story might undermine Multi-Culturalism and promote British patriotism, the elites decided to suppress the story. Indeed, the elites had created and imposed a cultural and legal climate in which even administrators, policemen, and journalists who wanted to blow the whistle on this story remained mum out of fear of being hounded by the Pariah Law.

    So, while the Rotterham horror was unfolding over the years, there was hardly a pip in the British press, British government, and British courts.

    And in the US, there are so many victims of black crime. But Pariah Law that is built on the holy-schmoly foundations of ‘white guilt’ and ‘white privilege’ would have us believe that there’s just some vague problem with ‘teens’ and ‘youths’. When the Hispanic Zimmerman shot a black thug in self-defense, he was made out to be a ‘white southern male’ hunting for an angelic black child ‘armed only with a bag of skittles’.
    Due process was essentially denied to Duke Lacrosse team the moment they were charged with a crime they didn’t commit. Pariah Law went into full gear in media and justice system that pretty much decided to railroad them… until the evidence finally turned out to be overwhelmingly against the accusations made by the crazed black stripper.

    So, maybe the West should look in the mirror before it attacks other nations. I agree that Saudi Arabia is an unpleasant place with stupid laws.
    But then, it is not true that the West is a world animated by rational secularism.
    A truly secular society should be without taboos in law, justice, and intellectual discussion of truth.

    The fact is PC and Pariah Law are essentially national religions in the West. We must get down on our knees and pray. And we must sacrifice truth, justice, and even lives in our subservience to them.
    So, even though the Glass-and-Ass rape story in the Rolling Stone magazine was likely bogus, the Stone editors didn’t bother fact-checking the story. It’s possible that PC mentality made the editors to just mindlessly endorse the story. It’s also possible that some editors had doubts about the story but were afraid of the Pariah Law because any utterance of doubt(regarding this hysteria called ‘rape culture’) could lead to them being attacked for lack of sensitivity to the victim narrative.

  38. @anonymous
    I think it was P.J. O'Rourke, after a long career in left-leaning journalism and 60's radical chic (he claimed it was for the hippy girls and good times, but the careful reader has to wonder if he wasn't also hitting The Man up for all that inside informant money), who said that at the end of it all what he had learned was "the awful power of make-believe."

    Good line. The awful power of make-believe.

    Or, in his own mind, “The Aweful Power of Make-Believe”

  39. If this Rolling Stone fiasco story is ever turned into a movie, I know who should score it:

  40. For further evidence of SRE’s ethnic animus, check out the reference to “cornfed blondes” in this: http://sabrinaerdely.com/docs/MainLineMadam.pdf.

  41. Perhaps after writing so many dubious articles, Sabrina Rubin Erdely wanted to get caught too?

    Or maybe Rubin Erdely was playing a game to see how many clues she could stuff into one article and still fool the mainstream press?

    SRE also already had the Catholic Church defenders and the US military having undertaken their own investigations into allegations made in other past SRE Rolling Stone articles.

    So yes I would say the noose was closing on SRE.

    Yet, did SRE already have an exit strategy?

    SRE already has two major films treatments of her past Rolling Stones articles under way.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabrina_Erdely#Film_projects

    Perhaps SRE felt one last blow out article for Rolling Stone and she would be Hollywood bound with in a year, out of journalism and onto a screen writing career.

    Perhaps our dominant culture demands so much lying about gender, rape, sexual orientation and the like that members of the media are shattering under the stress?

    “A lie begets a lie till they come to generations.” Exodus.

    One can just image sitting around the press room conference call at TNR or RS and hear the publisher/editor saying “Gee Stephen/Sabrina your last piece was just great, we could use more of the same, so what do you having cooking.”

    Us goyishe kops in some ways have it easy. We grow up being encouraged to join institutions like the Boy Scouts that place a premium on simply telling the truth come what may.

    Stephen Glass and SRE likely had their Bar/Bat Mitzvah after goings through months of practising their Havtorah and learning the precepts of Tikkun Olam. Living up to the expectations that it is one’s duty to somehow contribute to the transforming/perfecting of the world is beyond ambitious. It’s practically insane.

    Is it really any wonder they sometimes tend to become lying SJWs?

    Have any doubts?

    See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keeping_Up_with_the_Steins. Better yet watch the movie and look for the scene with Richard Benjamin as the Rabbi & Bar Mitzvah instructor.

    • Replies: @syonredux

    Us goyishe kops in some ways have it easy. We grow up being encouraged to join institutions like the Boy Scouts that place a premium on simply telling the truth come what may.
     
    I don't know, it seems to me that there is a rich tradition of Gentile lying: Bill Clinton, Richard Nixon, PT Barnum, Woodrow Wilson, Charles Ponzi (of Ponzi scheme fame), Kim Philby, Lance Armstrong, etc

    Stephen Glass and SRE likely had their Bar/Bat Mitzvah after goings through months of practising their Havtorah
     
    Isn't it more commonly written haftarah ?

    and learning the precepts of Tikkun Olam. Living up to the expectations that it is one’s duty to somehow contribute to the transforming/perfecting of the world is beyond ambitious. It’s practically insane.
     
    MMM, of course, the more traditional notion was that Tikkun Olam would be achieved by faithfully following the prescriptions of Jewish law:

    Jews believe that performing of ritual mitzvot (commandments, connections, or religious obligations) is a means of tikkun olam, helping to perfect the world, and that the performance of more mitzvot will hasten the coming of the Messiah and the Messianic Age. This belief dates back at least to the early Talmudic period. According to Rabbi Yochanan, quoting Rabbi Shim'on bar Yochai, the Jewish people will be redeemed when every Jew observes Shabbat (the Sabbath) twice in all its details.[6] This suggests that tikkun olam will prove successful with the coming of the Messiah and the Messianic Age.[5]

     

    The idea that correcting social ills is the true aim of Tikkun Olam is a recent phenomenon (cf the teachings of of people like Samson Raphael Hirsch).As such, it is quite similar to melioristic movements in Christianity: the early 2oth century Social Gospel movement*, Liberation Theology**, the Quaker crusade against slavery and the slave trade, The Temperance Movement, Christian Socialism, The Salvation Army, etc.

    *The Social Gospel movement is a Protestant Christian intellectual movement that was most prominent in the early 20th century United States and Canada. The movement applied Christian ethics to social problems, especially issues of social justice such as economic inequality, poverty, alcoholism, crime, racial tensions, slums, unclean environment, child labor, inadequate labor unions, poor schools, and the danger of war. Theologically, the Social Gospellers sought to operationalize the Lord's Prayer (Matthew 6:10): "Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven."[1] They typically were post-millennialist; that is, they believed the Second Coming could not happen until humankind rid itself of social evils by human effort.[2] The Social Gospel was more popular among clergy than laity.[3] Its leaders were predominantly associated with the liberal wing of the Progressive Movement and most were theologically liberal, although they were typically conservative when it came to their views on social issues.[4] Important leaders include Richard T. Ely, Josiah Strong, Washington Gladden, and Walter Rauschenbusch.

    Although most scholars agree that the Social Gospel movement peaked in the early 20th century, there is disagreement over when the movement began to decline, with some asserting that the destruction and trauma caused by World War I left many disillusioned with the Social Gospel's ideals[5] while others argue that World War I stimulated the Social Gospelers' reform efforts.[6] Theories regarding the decline of the Social Gospel after World War I often cite the rise of neo-orthodoxy as a contributing factor in the movement's decline.[7] Many of the Social Gospel's ideas reappeared in the Civil Rights Movement of the 1960s. "Social Gospel" principles continue to inspire newer movements such as Christians Against Poverty.[8]

     


    **Liberation theology[1] is a Christian response[citation needed] to the conditions of poverty in Roman Catholic theology which interprets the teachings of Jesus Christ in relation to a liberation from unjust economic, political, or social conditions. It has been described as "an interpretation of Christian faith through the poor's suffering, their struggle and hope, and a critique of society and the Catholic faith and Christianity through the eyes of the poor".[2] Detractors have called it Christianized Marxism.[3]

    Although liberation theology has grown into an international and inter-denominational movement, it began as a movement within the Catholic Church in Latin America in the 1950s–1960s. Liberation theology arose principally as a moral reaction to the poverty caused by social injustice in that region. The term was coined in 1971 by the Peruvian priest Gustavo Gutiérrez, who wrote one of the movement's most famous books, A Theology of Liberation. Other noted exponents are Leonardo Boff of Brazil, Jon Sobrino of Spain, and Juan Luis Segundo of Uruguay.[4][5]

    The influence of liberation theology diminished after proponents were accused of using "Marxist concepts" leading to admonishment by the Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF) in 1984 and 1986. The Vatican criticized certain strains of liberation theology for focusing on institutionalized or systemic sin, apparently to the exclusion of individual offenders and offences; and for identifying Catholic Church hierarchy in South America as members of the same privileged class that had long been oppressing indigenous populations since the arrival of Pizarro onward.[6]
     
  42. http://downtrend.com/vsaxena/black-gangs-bosnians-whites-st-louis/?utm

    No, it’s teens… and youths.

    We must save Kosovo from Serbians!!!!

    But Bosnians in St. Louis? Bosnian who?

  43. Oh yes and, of course, a “shard of broken glass pressed against her skin. She’d press until the sharp edge bit in, releasing just a droplet of blood. Somehow, it made her feel better.”
    http://sabrinaerdely.com/docs/MainLineMadam.pdf

  44. OIA. Only in America.

    http://downtrend.com/vsaxena/black-lives-matter-protesters-versus-primal-scream-streakers/

    http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2014/12/12/primal-scream-protest-chaotic-exchange/?page=single

    Someone please verify if this story is truth or satire. I can’t tell anymore.

    Another intra-Lib battle.

    Steering bare white butts to support black lives.

  45. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    it isn’t just Rubin. The Renda girl, (the rape-advocate person at UVA) told this version of the Jackie story to the United States Senate:

    One of the student survivors I worked with, Jenna*, was gang-raped by five fraternity men early in her freshman year. Despite the severity of the assault and injuries she sustained, Jenna still experienced a feeling of personal responsibility. Looking for affirmation, she sought out peers and told her story. Sadly, each and every one of the friends she reached out to responded with varying denials of her experience; these responses worsened her feelings of self-blame – that she must be confused because that fraternity “is full of great guys”; that she must have made them think she was “down for that”; questioning how no one else at the party could have heard what was going on if she was telling the truth; or discouraging her from seeking help because “you don’t want to be one of those girls who has a reputation” for reporting “that kind of thing.” These statements haunted Jenna. She told me that they made her feel crazy, and made her question whether her own understanding of the rape was legitimate.
    […] These negative and victim-blaming responses from her peers reinforced Jenna’s sense of fault, and prevented her from coming forward to the University’s administration or the Police. When she finally sought assistance from the Dean of Students’ office, after struggling and nearly failing out of her classes for two semesters, it was difficult for the university to conduct a meaningful investigation because much of the evidence had been lost, and witnesses were more difficult to locate.

    It identifies the five (5) frat boy perps of the initial “blow-job” version of Jackie’s story. Oddly enough, in this version, Renda pushed the “evil non-believing friends” angle, blaming Jackie’s friends for “preventing” her from going forward with her complaints.

    Also it talks about “the severity of the assault and the injuries she sustained”: could this be the infamous broken glass”?

    To feminists, women are pathetically weak-willed, aren’t they? Make you wonder how they can wake up, get themselves dressed and go to class without Mama holding their hand.

    Finally, isn’t lying to the Senate considered perjury?

    Someone should send Renda an email on US Senate letterhead next Friday at 4:30 PM telling Renda that, “Questions have arisen regarding the veracity of your Senate testimony” and reminding her of the penalties for perjury. That would put a huge bee in her little bonnet for an entire weekend!

  46. Priss Factor [AKA "dna turtles"] says:

    “…electronically concocted (or, as the kids say these days, catfished) a nonexistent suitor named Drew to make ‘Randall’ jealous…”

    If you can’t the guy with first glance, try to get him with pity?

    Of course, femme fatales can use both great looks and pity.

    ‘I’m aiming at you, lover. ‘

    http://youtu.be/VNiFfZQwIKM?t=1m1s

    And Bruce Lee vs Sabrina-as-Chinaman.

    Destroy the image, and you will break the enemy.

    Some call the Lib establishment the Cathedral. Maybe it should be called the Tabernacle:

  47. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    This from Thomas Bertonneau at The Brussels Journal:

    Emma [Madame Bovary]’s teenaged reading in the convent-school, as Flaubert writes, consisted of books that “were all love, lovers, sweethearts, persecuted ladies fainting in lonely pavilions, postilions killed at every stage, horses ridden to death on every page, sombre forests, heartaches, vows, sobs, tears and kisses, little skiffs by moonlight, nightingales in shady groves, ‘gentlemen’ brave as lions, gentle as lambs, virtuous as no one ever was, always well dressed, and weeping like fountains.” These same books, however, present characters and events as belonging to this world, and thus as coeval with the reader, and real; they therefore incite a naïve and unfulfillable expectation in the subject, who begins to measure herself against the propinquity of those benchmarks.

    Women see these things (like Jackie’s gang rape story) as real. They are sucked into the fantasy. And, were it not for Steve Sailer and others, we men would have been sucked into their demented fantasy world, too.

  48. Priss Factor [AKA "dna turtles"] says:

    Yup, a movie that makes Liberal brains explode:

    http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/blogs/latest/entry/zardoz-possibly-the-most-epic-what-the-fuck-ever

    ZARDOZ captured the essence of PC-to-come in this exchange:

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070948/quotes

    The Tabernacle: You are asked to vote at the termination of the trial of George Saden. Final statement from the accused begins.

    George Saden: I confess to the charges, but plead mitigation. These thoughts are constructive criticisms. Pyramidical. I try to suppress these thoughts, but they leak out in Second Level through the head-wound of my third death. I was imperfectly repaired. No. That is not true. I think what I think!

    Friend: [murmuring] That’s more like it! I’m with you, George.

    George Saden: I hate you all. I hate you all. I hate you all. Especially me.

    [the Tabernacle chimes]
    The Tabernacle: Vote, please. Vote, please.

    Friend: [to Zed] I’m voting for him, Monster. It won’t do any good. Nothing ever does.

    ————-

    Later, the Eternals demand that Friend go to ‘second level’ with them, thus allowing them to read his private thoughts.

    Friend: I will not go to second level with you!

    In the current order, PC goes after not only public behavior but private thoughts.
    Micro-surveillance against micro-aggressions.

  49. Priss Factor [AKA "dna turtles"] says:
    @Celt Darnell
    Well, as Hanlon's razor has it:

    Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

    That said, in Erdely's case it was clearly a combination of both.

    But what was the ratio? Aye, there's the rub.

    “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
    That said, in Erdely’s case it was clearly a combination of both.”

    More like malice aided-and-abetted by Media cowardice and hysteria.

    Stupidity tends to be harmless and childish. I wouldn’t call anything in this particular story ‘stupid’.
    Stupidity is accidental.
    Sabrina clearly did what she did because she grew up in the media world and understood its inner-workings. From high school to the newsroom, she never met anyone but people with her prejudices and agendas. She felt protected. So, in this climate, she was smart to used the mode of hysteria.

    And it paid off beautifully… until someone on the internet blew the whistle and the story became viral.

    Anyway, in a world where everyone agrees with everyone and is agreed on who the Evil Enemy is, everyone becomes blind to his/her own prejudices. Since everyone is agreed, everyone thinks he or she is right all the time.

    The Richard guy who blew the whistle was making just that point. Liberalism is supposed to be anti-prejudice, but in an industry where everyone agrees on everything, there’s a kneejerk tendency to believe what people want to believe since everyone thinks he or she is so right all the time. But when that happens, it’s no longer truth-seeking journalism but New Prejudice chasing after Old Prejudice that is becoming ever more rare, especially as number of white males in colleges keep shrinking.

  50. The central plot device of Catfishing (man finds the young woman he’s communicating with is in fact not young) was the theme of Hardy’s short story “On The Western Circuit”, where an ambitious young lawyer’s fling with a pretty but illiterate young servant girl sparks a long correspondence between the lawyer and the girl’s middle-aged, middle-class female employer/amanuensis , who both become deeply involved via the letters. The lawyer is so impressed with the girl’s good feelings and self-expression that he agrees to marry her, and finds out the truth only after the ceremony.

    ‘Do I guess rightly?’ he asked, with wan quietude. ‘You were her scribe through all this?’

    ‘It was necessary,’ said Edith.

    ‘Did she dictate every word you ever wrote to me?’

    ‘Not every word.’

    ‘In fact, very little?’

    ‘Very little.’

    ‘You wrote a great part of those pages every week from your own conceptions, though in her name!’

    ‘Yes.’

    ‘Perhaps you wrote many of the letters when you were alone, without communication with her?’

    ‘I did.’

    He turned to the bookcase, and leant with his hand over his face; and Edith, seeing his distress, became white as a sheet.

    ‘You have deceived me – ruined me!’ he murmured.

    ‘O, don’t say it!’ she cried in her anguish, jumping up and putting her hand on his shoulder. ‘I can’t bear that!’

    ‘Delighting me deceptively! Why did you do it – why did you!’

    ‘I began doing it in kindness to her! How could I do otherwise than try to save such a simple girl from misery? But I admit that I continued it for pleasure to myself.’

  51. Maybe UVA is different, but campus parties don’t drink alcohol out of glass. There is the ubiquitous red paper cup, filled with beer. Or punch. Or whatever. I would also be very surprised at a place like UVA, there would not be a bunch of quasi green drunks recycling everything. As bizarre as that must sound.

    The narrative of sustainability is much stronger than feminism. Any POSSIBLE course or major that can be spun to have a connection, however tenuous, to sustainability, is renamed to emphasize it. It is possible to fill up a complete semester of courses with the word ‘sustainability’ in every course title or subtitle. I have a feeling that outsider’s views of undergraduate elite colleges date quickly. And although certain strains of Feminism are entrenched — they are much less influential than it may seem to outsiders. This stuff is boring – unless it is so strident that it is idiotic.

    I think it would make an excellent story to see just what actual college kids, who are really, really young compared to even the theoretically young professional journalists studying them, think about feminism, gender studies, postmodern gibberish, &c. It isn’t like any of these battles is won or lost — they just get old, older and then slowly disappear. Leaving current students baffled about what the fuss is about.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    If you go back to the original Rolling Stone article, it was a glass TABLE at the party. Because we all know that frat rape rooms are furnished Bauhaus style.

    Later, someone threw a glass BOTTLE at Jackie's head on the street, shattering it, once the frat boys found out that she was a snitch. Snitches get snitches from the white boy posse.
  52. Enmity. Erderly’s fantasies aren’t that much different to what has come out of Hollywood for a generation or two. Loads of movies have awful Waspish protagonists. I’ve seen some weird caricatures and projections(surely some trolling going on there).

    One of my few glimpses into American college life comes from Hollywood.(I’m foreign). Blond haired white guys, “Boo! Hiss!” Morally and intellectually superior Jewish guy wins blonde, “Yeah!”

    Ah, deep rooted prejudice. How lucky you are.

  53. Yes the New York Times is asleep at the wheel on this. And yes they let 48 hours slip by without commenting. &c.

    But, on Dec 8, they gave Rolling Stone some advice from their own (extensive) experience with this. And, after the article by Margaret Sullivan, patting themselves on the back, and lecturing Rolling Stone on how to handle it, actually gave commenters a shot:

    http://publiceditor.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/12/08/how-to-survive-a-journalistic-disaster-101/?comments#permid=13576589

    And, of course, who better to take a shot at than our friend, Nick Kristof.

  54. @FWIW
    Maybe UVA is different, but campus parties don't drink alcohol out of glass. There is the ubiquitous red paper cup, filled with beer. Or punch. Or whatever. I would also be very surprised at a place like UVA, there would not be a bunch of quasi green drunks recycling everything. As bizarre as that must sound.

    The narrative of sustainability is much stronger than feminism. Any POSSIBLE course or major that can be spun to have a connection, however tenuous, to sustainability, is renamed to emphasize it. It is possible to fill up a complete semester of courses with the word 'sustainability' in every course title or subtitle. I have a feeling that outsider's views of undergraduate elite colleges date quickly. And although certain strains of Feminism are entrenched -- they are much less influential than it may seem to outsiders. This stuff is boring - unless it is so strident that it is idiotic.

    I think it would make an excellent story to see just what actual college kids, who are really, really young compared to even the theoretically young professional journalists studying them, think about feminism, gender studies, postmodern gibberish, &c. It isn't like any of these battles is won or lost -- they just get old, older and then slowly disappear. Leaving current students baffled about what the fuss is about.

    If you go back to the original Rolling Stone article, it was a glass TABLE at the party. Because we all know that frat rape rooms are furnished Bauhaus style.

    Later, someone threw a glass BOTTLE at Jackie’s head on the street, shattering it, once the frat boys found out that she was a snitch. Snitches get snitches from the white boy posse.

  55. a neo-Nazi viciously attacking a transgender individual’s scissors with his swastika-tattooed chest

    I wonder what a fact-checking might find in that case…

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Stephen Glass's articles were all fact checked.
    , @Priss Factor
    "a neo-Nazi viciously attacking a transgender individual’s scissors with his swastika-tattooed chest"

    Sounds a bit like something that Gregg Araki(worthless shitter) would make.

    DOOM GENERATION.

    Check # 20 out of 26:

    http://www.gamesradar.com/25-terrifying-movie-hooligans/

    Neo-Nazi Punks - The Doom Generation (1995)
    The Movie Hooligan: A trio of murderous Neo-Nazis, one of whom believes Amy Blue (Rose McGowan) to be his ex-girlfriend Bambi despite her protests.

    Nastiest Moment: They track down Amy, her boyfriend Jordan (James Duval) and their friend Xavier (Jonathan Schaech) to an abandoned warehouse as the trio are mid-threesome. (Much of it in pitch darkness).

    Repulsed by their free-spirited sexual tryst (“Dirty, perverted scum, make me see red”), they beat Xavier unconscious, rape Amy on an American flag and castrate Jordan with garden shears.

    All while blasting the American national anthem.
  56. @reiner Tor

    a neo-Nazi viciously attacking a transgender individual’s scissors with his swastika-tattooed chest
     
    I wonder what a fact-checking might find in that case...

    Stephen Glass’s articles were all fact checked.

  57. @Art Deco
    basically elbowing aside Jesse Jackson as the de facto spokesman for Black America

    No, as the media's favorite freak on the Rolodex. Jackson ca. 1983 had a favorability rating north of 90% among blacks and rolled up massive majorities among black Democrats in primaries all over the United States in 1984 and 1988, winning pluralities of the total vote in some states. Sharpton placed satisfactorily in a low turnout Democratic primary in New York City in 1997 (losing to a caricature like Ruth Messenger).

    Sharpton's career is a testament of the refusal of the media to apply any investigative muscle to examining his affairs (too busy doing fishing expeditions of Sarah Palin's e-mails) and the refusal of the court system to sanction him for non-compliance. A levy of his house and personal property should have been undertaken to satisfy civil suits years ago.

    However, he's 60 and looks ill. His best days are not ahead of him. What's interesting is the absence of anyone coming down the pipeline behind him. Sharpton's been a household name in New York since 1987 and Jackson's been a public figure since 1968. It's conceivable that these sorts of road shows have played themselves out.

    basically elbowing aside Jesse Jackson as the de facto spokesman for Black America

    No, as the media’s favorite freak on the Rolodex.

    I don’t know.It seems to me that Sharpton does pretty well for a “freak on a Rolodex” (do people still have those?):

    This, the tail end of 2014, is Al Sharpton’s moment.

    Despite the firebrand minister’s shrinking physical stature, his presence on the national stage has never loomed larger. From Ferguson to Cleveland to Staten Island, black men dying at the hands of police have catapulted America’s racial obsession to new heights — carrying Sharpton along with it.

    He stands solemnly with Michael Brown’s family at televised press conferences. He appears alongside Eric Garner’s grieving widow on Meet the Press. He delivers nightly sermons on race from his prime-time perch at MSNBC. Though the rehabilitation is far from perfect, it’s a far cry from the days of Tawana Brawley, Freddie’s Fashion Mart, and “white interlopers.”

    Considered politically toxic by Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, Sharpton has been enthusiastically embraced by President Obama. He has bragged about helping to pick a new attorney general and communed with the current one. In fact, a much-quoted Politico profile last summer described Sharpton as Obama’s “go-to man on race.”

    Given the reports of phone calls and text messages frequently exchanged between Sharpton and top Obama officials, a complete accounting of the relationship may be impossible. But a perusal of the White House visitor log — which shows 61 visits by Sharpton since 2009 — illustrates the extraordinary access Sharpton has had to the president and his top advisers.

    Thirty-four of Sharpton’s visits were for White House events like high-profile nominations, bill signings, and soirées. Some, like the February 9, 2010, “Celebration of Music from the Civil Rights Movement,” seem well within Sharpton’s wheelhouse. But many more — including a March 18, 2010, signing ceremony for a “jobs bill” and a May 19, 2010, event honoring visiting Mexican president Felipe Calderón — leave one wondering where Sharpton’s expertise enters the picture. Others — such as the Obamas’ 2011 Super Bowl party, small-scale movie screenings in February 2011 and April 2013, and especially the president’s birthday party in August 2011 — speak to a close personal relationship between Sharpton and the first family.

    Sharpton has participated in ten of these highly publicized sit-downs, with both the White House and Sharpton himself pushing news of the conclaves to national media outlets. Sharpton first sat in the Oval Office on May 7, 2009, to discuss equality in education with New York mayor Michael Bloomberg and former House speaker Newt Gingrich. On February 3, 2010, Sharpton and three other civil-rights leaders met with Obama on job creation; on April 19, 2011, the topic was immigration. July 2012 saw another high-profile education meeting, and a post-reelection confab with MSNBC progressives was held on December 4. On-the-record meetings in 2013 and 2014 focused on voting rights and civil-rights initiatives like My Brother’s Keeper.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/394476/al-sharpton-white-house-brendan-bordelon

  58. I recall back when the “Journolist” was exposed, it came out that a couple of the members had written emails fantasizing about people they disliked on the right being thrown through plate glass windows.

  59. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    When I was in college in Philadelphia, the fraternity house that I lived in used cans for beer as required by the University (no kegs were allowed). Being meatheads, we just threw the cans on the floor. The next morning, we’d let the bums that lived nearby come through the house and clean up the cans for recycling money. A perfect symbiotic relationship with the community.

  60. @anonymous-antimarxist

    Perhaps after writing so many dubious articles, Sabrina Rubin Erdely wanted to get caught too?

    Or maybe Rubin Erdely was playing a game to see how many clues she could stuff into one article and still fool the mainstream press?

     

    SRE also already had the Catholic Church defenders and the US military having undertaken their own investigations into allegations made in other past SRE Rolling Stone articles.

    So yes I would say the noose was closing on SRE.

    Yet, did SRE already have an exit strategy?

    SRE already has two major films treatments of her past Rolling Stones articles under way.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabrina_Erdely#Film_projects

    Perhaps SRE felt one last blow out article for Rolling Stone and she would be Hollywood bound with in a year, out of journalism and onto a screen writing career.

    Perhaps our dominant culture demands so much lying about gender, rape, sexual orientation and the like that members of the media are shattering under the stress?
     
    "A lie begets a lie till they come to generations." Exodus.

    One can just image sitting around the press room conference call at TNR or RS and hear the publisher/editor saying "Gee Stephen/Sabrina your last piece was just great, we could use more of the same, so what do you having cooking."

    Us goyishe kops in some ways have it easy. We grow up being encouraged to join institutions like the Boy Scouts that place a premium on simply telling the truth come what may.

    Stephen Glass and SRE likely had their Bar/Bat Mitzvah after goings through months of practising their Havtorah and learning the precepts of Tikkun Olam. Living up to the expectations that it is one's duty to somehow contribute to the transforming/perfecting of the world is beyond ambitious. It's practically insane.

    Is it really any wonder they sometimes tend to become lying SJWs?

    Have any doubts?

    See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keeping_Up_with_the_Steins. Better yet watch the movie and look for the scene with Richard Benjamin as the Rabbi & Bar Mitzvah instructor.

    Us goyishe kops in some ways have it easy. We grow up being encouraged to join institutions like the Boy Scouts that place a premium on simply telling the truth come what may.

    I don’t know, it seems to me that there is a rich tradition of Gentile lying: Bill Clinton, Richard Nixon, PT Barnum, Woodrow Wilson, Charles Ponzi (of Ponzi scheme fame), Kim Philby, Lance Armstrong, etc

    Stephen Glass and SRE likely had their Bar/Bat Mitzvah after goings through months of practising their Havtorah

    Isn’t it more commonly written haftarah ?

    and learning the precepts of Tikkun Olam. Living up to the expectations that it is one’s duty to somehow contribute to the transforming/perfecting of the world is beyond ambitious. It’s practically insane.

    MMM, of course, the more traditional notion was that Tikkun Olam would be achieved by faithfully following the prescriptions of Jewish law:

    Jews believe that performing of ritual mitzvot (commandments, connections, or religious obligations) is a means of tikkun olam, helping to perfect the world, and that the performance of more mitzvot will hasten the coming of the Messiah and the Messianic Age. This belief dates back at least to the early Talmudic period. According to Rabbi Yochanan, quoting Rabbi Shim’on bar Yochai, the Jewish people will be redeemed when every Jew observes Shabbat (the Sabbath) twice in all its details.[6] This suggests that tikkun olam will prove successful with the coming of the Messiah and the Messianic Age.[5]

    The idea that correcting social ills is the true aim of Tikkun Olam is a recent phenomenon (cf the teachings of of people like Samson Raphael Hirsch).As such, it is quite similar to melioristic movements in Christianity: the early 2oth century Social Gospel movement*, Liberation Theology**, the Quaker crusade against slavery and the slave trade, The Temperance Movement, Christian Socialism, The Salvation Army, etc.

    *The Social Gospel movement is a Protestant Christian intellectual movement that was most prominent in the early 20th century United States and Canada. The movement applied Christian ethics to social problems, especially issues of social justice such as economic inequality, poverty, alcoholism, crime, racial tensions, slums, unclean environment, child labor, inadequate labor unions, poor schools, and the danger of war. Theologically, the Social Gospellers sought to operationalize the Lord’s Prayer (Matthew 6:10): “Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.”[1] They typically were post-millennialist; that is, they believed the Second Coming could not happen until humankind rid itself of social evils by human effort.[2] The Social Gospel was more popular among clergy than laity.[3] Its leaders were predominantly associated with the liberal wing of the Progressive Movement and most were theologically liberal, although they were typically conservative when it came to their views on social issues.[4] Important leaders include Richard T. Ely, Josiah Strong, Washington Gladden, and Walter Rauschenbusch.

    Although most scholars agree that the Social Gospel movement peaked in the early 20th century, there is disagreement over when the movement began to decline, with some asserting that the destruction and trauma caused by World War I left many disillusioned with the Social Gospel’s ideals[5] while others argue that World War I stimulated the Social Gospelers’ reform efforts.[6] Theories regarding the decline of the Social Gospel after World War I often cite the rise of neo-orthodoxy as a contributing factor in the movement’s decline.[7] Many of the Social Gospel’s ideas reappeared in the Civil Rights Movement of the 1960s. “Social Gospel” principles continue to inspire newer movements such as Christians Against Poverty.[8]

    **Liberation theology[1] is a Christian response[citation needed] to the conditions of poverty in Roman Catholic theology which interprets the teachings of Jesus Christ in relation to a liberation from unjust economic, political, or social conditions. It has been described as “an interpretation of Christian faith through the poor’s suffering, their struggle and hope, and a critique of society and the Catholic faith and Christianity through the eyes of the poor”.[2] Detractors have called it Christianized Marxism.[3]

    Although liberation theology has grown into an international and inter-denominational movement, it began as a movement within the Catholic Church in Latin America in the 1950s–1960s. Liberation theology arose principally as a moral reaction to the poverty caused by social injustice in that region. The term was coined in 1971 by the Peruvian priest Gustavo Gutiérrez, who wrote one of the movement’s most famous books, A Theology of Liberation. Other noted exponents are Leonardo Boff of Brazil, Jon Sobrino of Spain, and Juan Luis Segundo of Uruguay.[4][5]

    The influence of liberation theology diminished after proponents were accused of using “Marxist concepts” leading to admonishment by the Vatican’s Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF) in 1984 and 1986. The Vatican criticized certain strains of liberation theology for focusing on institutionalized or systemic sin, apparently to the exclusion of individual offenders and offences; and for identifying Catholic Church hierarchy in South America as members of the same privileged class that had long been oppressing indigenous populations since the arrival of Pizarro onward.[6]

    • Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist
    haftarah vs haftoroh vs haftorah Various English translations of Hebrew vs Ashkenazic pronunciations.

    And yes there are obviously no shortage of gentile liars.

    Yet the idea that an individual's contribution towards improving one's world need not necessitate or begin with truthfulness is something most gentiles have a hard time getting their heads around.

    Tikkun Olam: To Perfect/Heal/Repair/Transform one's world. Nice sentiment. But whose idea of perfection? When your group is a small minority are you going to respect the opinion of the majority when they do not agree with your conception of a better, forget about perfect, world? Or will you decide to act as an "Hostile Elite" and undermine the constitutional government?

    In part this involves differences between a commitment to Universal Morality/Truth and "In Group Morality/Truth".

    And isn't this all beyond the grasp of a 13 year old? Again the vast majority of goyishe kop parents would just be happy if their kids learned to be honest, not grow up to be the next Lenin or Trotsky.

    No wonder the intense Jewish hostility to the Boy Scouts.

    Here is a great example of one horrible lying Jewish SJW guru praising another despicable liar and both being held up as Jewish cultural icons in their lifetimes.

    http://www.tikkun.org/nextgen/on-howard-zinn

    Please note the Masthead!!!
  61. Priss Factor [AKA "dna turtles"] says:

    The media are like a hall of mirrors as everything in the industry reflect one another.

    It’s like when two mirrors are placed side by side, they reflect each other to infinity.
    A visual echo chamber. Media are like that.

    But one of the mirrors cracked in this one. Because the media is a hall of mirrors, crack in one began to be reflected in others.
    But NYT put black veil over their mirror.

  62. @syonredux

    Us goyishe kops in some ways have it easy. We grow up being encouraged to join institutions like the Boy Scouts that place a premium on simply telling the truth come what may.
     
    I don't know, it seems to me that there is a rich tradition of Gentile lying: Bill Clinton, Richard Nixon, PT Barnum, Woodrow Wilson, Charles Ponzi (of Ponzi scheme fame), Kim Philby, Lance Armstrong, etc

    Stephen Glass and SRE likely had their Bar/Bat Mitzvah after goings through months of practising their Havtorah
     
    Isn't it more commonly written haftarah ?

    and learning the precepts of Tikkun Olam. Living up to the expectations that it is one’s duty to somehow contribute to the transforming/perfecting of the world is beyond ambitious. It’s practically insane.
     
    MMM, of course, the more traditional notion was that Tikkun Olam would be achieved by faithfully following the prescriptions of Jewish law:

    Jews believe that performing of ritual mitzvot (commandments, connections, or religious obligations) is a means of tikkun olam, helping to perfect the world, and that the performance of more mitzvot will hasten the coming of the Messiah and the Messianic Age. This belief dates back at least to the early Talmudic period. According to Rabbi Yochanan, quoting Rabbi Shim'on bar Yochai, the Jewish people will be redeemed when every Jew observes Shabbat (the Sabbath) twice in all its details.[6] This suggests that tikkun olam will prove successful with the coming of the Messiah and the Messianic Age.[5]

     

    The idea that correcting social ills is the true aim of Tikkun Olam is a recent phenomenon (cf the teachings of of people like Samson Raphael Hirsch).As such, it is quite similar to melioristic movements in Christianity: the early 2oth century Social Gospel movement*, Liberation Theology**, the Quaker crusade against slavery and the slave trade, The Temperance Movement, Christian Socialism, The Salvation Army, etc.

    *The Social Gospel movement is a Protestant Christian intellectual movement that was most prominent in the early 20th century United States and Canada. The movement applied Christian ethics to social problems, especially issues of social justice such as economic inequality, poverty, alcoholism, crime, racial tensions, slums, unclean environment, child labor, inadequate labor unions, poor schools, and the danger of war. Theologically, the Social Gospellers sought to operationalize the Lord's Prayer (Matthew 6:10): "Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven."[1] They typically were post-millennialist; that is, they believed the Second Coming could not happen until humankind rid itself of social evils by human effort.[2] The Social Gospel was more popular among clergy than laity.[3] Its leaders were predominantly associated with the liberal wing of the Progressive Movement and most were theologically liberal, although they were typically conservative when it came to their views on social issues.[4] Important leaders include Richard T. Ely, Josiah Strong, Washington Gladden, and Walter Rauschenbusch.

    Although most scholars agree that the Social Gospel movement peaked in the early 20th century, there is disagreement over when the movement began to decline, with some asserting that the destruction and trauma caused by World War I left many disillusioned with the Social Gospel's ideals[5] while others argue that World War I stimulated the Social Gospelers' reform efforts.[6] Theories regarding the decline of the Social Gospel after World War I often cite the rise of neo-orthodoxy as a contributing factor in the movement's decline.[7] Many of the Social Gospel's ideas reappeared in the Civil Rights Movement of the 1960s. "Social Gospel" principles continue to inspire newer movements such as Christians Against Poverty.[8]

     


    **Liberation theology[1] is a Christian response[citation needed] to the conditions of poverty in Roman Catholic theology which interprets the teachings of Jesus Christ in relation to a liberation from unjust economic, political, or social conditions. It has been described as "an interpretation of Christian faith through the poor's suffering, their struggle and hope, and a critique of society and the Catholic faith and Christianity through the eyes of the poor".[2] Detractors have called it Christianized Marxism.[3]

    Although liberation theology has grown into an international and inter-denominational movement, it began as a movement within the Catholic Church in Latin America in the 1950s–1960s. Liberation theology arose principally as a moral reaction to the poverty caused by social injustice in that region. The term was coined in 1971 by the Peruvian priest Gustavo Gutiérrez, who wrote one of the movement's most famous books, A Theology of Liberation. Other noted exponents are Leonardo Boff of Brazil, Jon Sobrino of Spain, and Juan Luis Segundo of Uruguay.[4][5]

    The influence of liberation theology diminished after proponents were accused of using "Marxist concepts" leading to admonishment by the Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF) in 1984 and 1986. The Vatican criticized certain strains of liberation theology for focusing on institutionalized or systemic sin, apparently to the exclusion of individual offenders and offences; and for identifying Catholic Church hierarchy in South America as members of the same privileged class that had long been oppressing indigenous populations since the arrival of Pizarro onward.[6]
     

    haftarah vs haftoroh vs haftorah Various English translations of Hebrew vs Ashkenazic pronunciations.

    And yes there are obviously no shortage of gentile liars.

    Yet the idea that an individual’s contribution towards improving one’s world need not necessitate or begin with truthfulness is something most gentiles have a hard time getting their heads around.

    Tikkun Olam: To Perfect/Heal/Repair/Transform one’s world. Nice sentiment. But whose idea of perfection? When your group is a small minority are you going to respect the opinion of the majority when they do not agree with your conception of a better, forget about perfect, world? Or will you decide to act as an “Hostile Elite” and undermine the constitutional government?

    In part this involves differences between a commitment to Universal Morality/Truth and “In Group Morality/Truth”.

    And isn’t this all beyond the grasp of a 13 year old? Again the vast majority of goyishe kop parents would just be happy if their kids learned to be honest, not grow up to be the next Lenin or Trotsky.

    No wonder the intense Jewish hostility to the Boy Scouts.

    Here is a great example of one horrible lying Jewish SJW guru praising another despicable liar and both being held up as Jewish cultural icons in their lifetimes.

    http://www.tikkun.org/nextgen/on-howard-zinn

    Please note the Masthead!!!

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    "No wonder the intense Jewish hostility to the Boy Scouts."

    I don't know, perhaps the biggest Boy Scout troop I've seen in this century was at a liberal Jewish private school in Valley Village about six years ago: 23 Cub Scouts were reaching age 11 and becoming Boy Scouts in one ceremony.

    , @syonredux

    Yet the idea that an individual’s contribution towards improving one’s world need not necessitate or begin with truthfulness is something most gentiles have a hard time getting their heads around.
     
    Really?judging from the behavior of Gentile political leaders, that seems quite debatable.And, as I noted a while back, so eminent a Gentile thinker as Plato had no problems with lying in a good cause (cf the Noble Lie)

    Tikkun Olam: To Perfect/Heal/Repair/Transform one’s world. Nice sentiment. But whose idea of perfection?
     
    MMMM, what standard of perfection did the Protestant Social Gospel leadership wish to impose on America? Was it a standard shared by all Americans (Catholics, agnostics, etc)?

    When your group is a small minority are you going to respect the opinion of the majority when they do not agree with your conception of a better, forget about perfect, world? Or will you decide to act as an “Hostile Elite” and undermine the constitutional government?
     
    Funny, we had a huge debate on this site a while back about the Civil War.The pro-Confederate apologists were quite convinced that the Gentiles in the North were seeking to impose their values on the Gentiles in the South, and that they were destroying the constitution in the process....

    In part this involves differences between a commitment to Universal Morality/Truth and “In Group Morality/Truth”.
     
    MMMM, would this be the same commitment to Universal Morality/Truth that the Germans displayed in from 1933-45? Or that the Catholic Church displayed during the Albigensian Crusade? Or that Cromwell displayed in Ireland?

    And isn’t this all beyond the grasp of a 13 year old? Again the vast majority of goyishe kop parents would just be happy if their kids learned to be honest, not grow up to be the next Lenin or Trotsky.
     
    Gosh, I guess that no Gentile thirteen year olds were ever enjoined to imitate Washington, or Henry the 5th.And those stories about the young Alexander modeling himself on Achilles must be total fabrications...

    Here is a great example of one horrible lying Jewish SJW guru praising another despicable liar and both being held up as Jewish cultural icons in their lifetimes.
     
    MMMM, and one could note that a vast number of Gentiles praised Woodrow Wilson, a man with a rather flexible relationship to the truth.....


    And let's close up with a quote from Dietrich of Nieheim:

    Therefore, pay attention, o faithful. For obeying such quarrelers, and supporting those dividing the Church, we see as sinning most gravely and mortally -- dividing, I say, the Body of Christ among their wickednesses and sins. For I believe you have been freed from these tyrannical lordships already, if your obedience were not cherished.
    But if these two or three [popes and antipopes] will not concede voluntarily, it remains to proceed to stronger remedies. That is, overthrowing them and segregating them from the community of the Church, and, as I said before, taking away obedience from them.

    Then, if the Church will not be able to accomplish it in this way, then by way of deceit, fraud, arms, violence, power, promises, gifts and money, and finally, prison and death, it is appropriate to procure in any way whatever the most holy union and conjoining of the Church.

    Close to what was said by Tullius Cicero in De Officiis [III v 23]: 'This is what the laws look for, this is what they will: [the city] to be conjoined safely. So those who break the laws are punished by death, exile, chains, and fines.'
     
  63. @anonymous-antimarxist
    haftarah vs haftoroh vs haftorah Various English translations of Hebrew vs Ashkenazic pronunciations.

    And yes there are obviously no shortage of gentile liars.

    Yet the idea that an individual's contribution towards improving one's world need not necessitate or begin with truthfulness is something most gentiles have a hard time getting their heads around.

    Tikkun Olam: To Perfect/Heal/Repair/Transform one's world. Nice sentiment. But whose idea of perfection? When your group is a small minority are you going to respect the opinion of the majority when they do not agree with your conception of a better, forget about perfect, world? Or will you decide to act as an "Hostile Elite" and undermine the constitutional government?

    In part this involves differences between a commitment to Universal Morality/Truth and "In Group Morality/Truth".

    And isn't this all beyond the grasp of a 13 year old? Again the vast majority of goyishe kop parents would just be happy if their kids learned to be honest, not grow up to be the next Lenin or Trotsky.

    No wonder the intense Jewish hostility to the Boy Scouts.

    Here is a great example of one horrible lying Jewish SJW guru praising another despicable liar and both being held up as Jewish cultural icons in their lifetimes.

    http://www.tikkun.org/nextgen/on-howard-zinn

    Please note the Masthead!!!

    “No wonder the intense Jewish hostility to the Boy Scouts.”

    I don’t know, perhaps the biggest Boy Scout troop I’ve seen in this century was at a liberal Jewish private school in Valley Village about six years ago: 23 Cub Scouts were reaching age 11 and becoming Boy Scouts in one ceremony.

    • Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist
    Steve,

    Yes, there have been pockets of usually highly assimilated Reform Jews who been participating in Boy Scouts for since the founding of scouting. I believe no less than the great Julius Rosenwald, the Sears Roebuck executive, Philanthropist(builder of hundreds of schools for blacks in the South), Eugenicist(Margaret Sanger's major backer) and Reform Judaism leader, was an early financial supporter of Scouting.

    But, I also happen to remember a Rabbi who wrote regularly for the New York Review of Books back in the eighties who was all upset that there were Jews who allowed their kids to be scouts and spend their summers rubbing elbows with gentiles risking losing their Jewish identities. Far better for them to be immersed in a Jewish identity at strictly Jewish summer camps.

    The NYT, ACLU and other Jewish activist legal groups have been hammering away at the Boy Scouts for decades on a number of fronts. First for not permitting gay scoutmasters, and then on the other hand, when occasional accusations of sexual abuse no matter how specious arise, attempting to see them sued in to ruin.

    Also, you find me Rabbis who want out of the closet Gays as leaders at their Jewish camps and we'll talk.

    One last thing, I use to help run a adult year round outdoors club out of Chicago. One of the members who helped me run several summer camping trips was born Jewish. As a kid, his family moved around Iowa, Nebraska and Kansas for his dad's job. To help him make new friends in different towns they enrolled him in Scouts and he loved it. However, he made it very clear that the rest of the family back in North Chicago suburbs had the Rabbi on phone telling his parents that what they were doing was a shonda. It made things really hard on his folks and it ended up turning him off on most things Jewish.
  64. Priss Factor [AKA "dna turtles"] says:
    @reiner Tor

    a neo-Nazi viciously attacking a transgender individual’s scissors with his swastika-tattooed chest
     
    I wonder what a fact-checking might find in that case...

    “a neo-Nazi viciously attacking a transgender individual’s scissors with his swastika-tattooed chest”

    Sounds a bit like something that Gregg Araki(worthless shitter) would make.

    DOOM GENERATION.

    Check # 20 out of 26:

    http://www.gamesradar.com/25-terrifying-movie-hooligans/

    Neo-Nazi Punks – The Doom Generation (1995)
    The Movie Hooligan: A trio of murderous Neo-Nazis, one of whom believes Amy Blue (Rose McGowan) to be his ex-girlfriend Bambi despite her protests.

    Nastiest Moment: They track down Amy, her boyfriend Jordan (James Duval) and their friend Xavier (Jonathan Schaech) to an abandoned warehouse as the trio are mid-threesome. (Much of it in pitch darkness).

    Repulsed by their free-spirited sexual tryst (“Dirty, perverted scum, make me see red”), they beat Xavier unconscious, rape Amy on an American flag and castrate Jordan with garden shears.

    All while blasting the American national anthem.

  65. @anonymous-antimarxist
    haftarah vs haftoroh vs haftorah Various English translations of Hebrew vs Ashkenazic pronunciations.

    And yes there are obviously no shortage of gentile liars.

    Yet the idea that an individual's contribution towards improving one's world need not necessitate or begin with truthfulness is something most gentiles have a hard time getting their heads around.

    Tikkun Olam: To Perfect/Heal/Repair/Transform one's world. Nice sentiment. But whose idea of perfection? When your group is a small minority are you going to respect the opinion of the majority when they do not agree with your conception of a better, forget about perfect, world? Or will you decide to act as an "Hostile Elite" and undermine the constitutional government?

    In part this involves differences between a commitment to Universal Morality/Truth and "In Group Morality/Truth".

    And isn't this all beyond the grasp of a 13 year old? Again the vast majority of goyishe kop parents would just be happy if their kids learned to be honest, not grow up to be the next Lenin or Trotsky.

    No wonder the intense Jewish hostility to the Boy Scouts.

    Here is a great example of one horrible lying Jewish SJW guru praising another despicable liar and both being held up as Jewish cultural icons in their lifetimes.

    http://www.tikkun.org/nextgen/on-howard-zinn

    Please note the Masthead!!!

    Yet the idea that an individual’s contribution towards improving one’s world need not necessitate or begin with truthfulness is something most gentiles have a hard time getting their heads around.

    Really?judging from the behavior of Gentile political leaders, that seems quite debatable.And, as I noted a while back, so eminent a Gentile thinker as Plato had no problems with lying in a good cause (cf the Noble Lie)

    Tikkun Olam: To Perfect/Heal/Repair/Transform one’s world. Nice sentiment. But whose idea of perfection?

    MMMM, what standard of perfection did the Protestant Social Gospel leadership wish to impose on America? Was it a standard shared by all Americans (Catholics, agnostics, etc)?

    When your group is a small minority are you going to respect the opinion of the majority when they do not agree with your conception of a better, forget about perfect, world? Or will you decide to act as an “Hostile Elite” and undermine the constitutional government?

    Funny, we had a huge debate on this site a while back about the Civil War.The pro-Confederate apologists were quite convinced that the Gentiles in the North were seeking to impose their values on the Gentiles in the South, and that they were destroying the constitution in the process….

    In part this involves differences between a commitment to Universal Morality/Truth and “In Group Morality/Truth”.

    MMMM, would this be the same commitment to Universal Morality/Truth that the Germans displayed in from 1933-45? Or that the Catholic Church displayed during the Albigensian Crusade? Or that Cromwell displayed in Ireland?

    And isn’t this all beyond the grasp of a 13 year old? Again the vast majority of goyishe kop parents would just be happy if their kids learned to be honest, not grow up to be the next Lenin or Trotsky.

    Gosh, I guess that no Gentile thirteen year olds were ever enjoined to imitate Washington, or Henry the 5th.And those stories about the young Alexander modeling himself on Achilles must be total fabrications…

    Here is a great example of one horrible lying Jewish SJW guru praising another despicable liar and both being held up as Jewish cultural icons in their lifetimes.

    MMMM, and one could note that a vast number of Gentiles praised Woodrow Wilson, a man with a rather flexible relationship to the truth…..

    And let’s close up with a quote from Dietrich of Nieheim:

    Therefore, pay attention, o faithful. For obeying such quarrelers, and supporting those dividing the Church, we see as sinning most gravely and mortally — dividing, I say, the Body of Christ among their wickednesses and sins. For I believe you have been freed from these tyrannical lordships already, if your obedience were not cherished.
    But if these two or three [popes and antipopes] will not concede voluntarily, it remains to proceed to stronger remedies. That is, overthrowing them and segregating them from the community of the Church, and, as I said before, taking away obedience from them.

    Then, if the Church will not be able to accomplish it in this way, then by way of deceit, fraud, arms, violence, power, promises, gifts and money, and finally, prison and death, it is appropriate to procure in any way whatever the most holy union and conjoining of the Church.

    Close to what was said by Tullius Cicero in De Officiis [III v 23]: ‘This is what the laws look for, this is what they will: [the city] to be conjoined safely. So those who break the laws are punished by death, exile, chains, and fines.’

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    And, as I noted a while back, so eminent a Gentile thinker as Plato had no problems with lying in a good cause (cf the Noble Lie)

    Plato's "noble lie" in The Republic is part of a larger hypothetical question about how to create an ideal state and society. Only people looking for it would find it to be an endorsement of lying. Is that Leo Strauss' idea or did he get it from someone else?

    Anyway, the point about the Jewish concept of tikkun olam only makes sense when one reads the complete prayer the phrase comes from: the Alienu prayer. People should do a web search for the complete version and with commentary. It gives an idea of how the Jews see themselves in relation to the other nations and peoples of the world. It's apparently meant to be said three times a day so it's not obscure in Judaism.

  66. @Art Deco
    basically elbowing aside Jesse Jackson as the de facto spokesman for Black America

    No, as the media's favorite freak on the Rolodex. Jackson ca. 1983 had a favorability rating north of 90% among blacks and rolled up massive majorities among black Democrats in primaries all over the United States in 1984 and 1988, winning pluralities of the total vote in some states. Sharpton placed satisfactorily in a low turnout Democratic primary in New York City in 1997 (losing to a caricature like Ruth Messenger).

    Sharpton's career is a testament of the refusal of the media to apply any investigative muscle to examining his affairs (too busy doing fishing expeditions of Sarah Palin's e-mails) and the refusal of the court system to sanction him for non-compliance. A levy of his house and personal property should have been undertaken to satisfy civil suits years ago.

    However, he's 60 and looks ill. His best days are not ahead of him. What's interesting is the absence of anyone coming down the pipeline behind him. Sharpton's been a household name in New York since 1987 and Jackson's been a public figure since 1968. It's conceivable that these sorts of road shows have played themselves out.

    Don’t agree with your prediction, but the does look sick as hell. Any rumors that he was poofting?

  67. “I don’t know, it seems to me that there is a rich tradition of Gentile lying: Bill Clinton, Richard Nixon, PT Barnum, Woodrow Wilson, Charles Ponzi (of Ponzi scheme fame), Kim Philby, Lance Armstrong, etc”

    Don’t forget Nancy Pelosi another lying Gentile as well as Karl Rove, Ted Kennedy, and Chris Matthews. This list can go on and on. And Jackie the fake rape victim is another lying Gentile.

  68. “However, he’s 60 and looks ill. His best days are not ahead of him. What’s interesting is the absence of anyone coming down the pipeline behind him. Sharpton’s been a household name in New York since 1987 and Jackson’s been a public figure since 1968. It’s conceivable that these sorts of road shows have played themselves out.”

    Al Sharpton and Denzel Washington are both the same age yet Al looks significantly older than Denzel. I wonder if many years of heavy cocaine snorting took a toll on Sharpton’s appearance and speeded up the age processing regarding his appearance.

    “Black Don’t Crack” definitely does not apply to Al Sharpton.

  69. @syonredux

    Yet the idea that an individual’s contribution towards improving one’s world need not necessitate or begin with truthfulness is something most gentiles have a hard time getting their heads around.
     
    Really?judging from the behavior of Gentile political leaders, that seems quite debatable.And, as I noted a while back, so eminent a Gentile thinker as Plato had no problems with lying in a good cause (cf the Noble Lie)

    Tikkun Olam: To Perfect/Heal/Repair/Transform one’s world. Nice sentiment. But whose idea of perfection?
     
    MMMM, what standard of perfection did the Protestant Social Gospel leadership wish to impose on America? Was it a standard shared by all Americans (Catholics, agnostics, etc)?

    When your group is a small minority are you going to respect the opinion of the majority when they do not agree with your conception of a better, forget about perfect, world? Or will you decide to act as an “Hostile Elite” and undermine the constitutional government?
     
    Funny, we had a huge debate on this site a while back about the Civil War.The pro-Confederate apologists were quite convinced that the Gentiles in the North were seeking to impose their values on the Gentiles in the South, and that they were destroying the constitution in the process....

    In part this involves differences between a commitment to Universal Morality/Truth and “In Group Morality/Truth”.
     
    MMMM, would this be the same commitment to Universal Morality/Truth that the Germans displayed in from 1933-45? Or that the Catholic Church displayed during the Albigensian Crusade? Or that Cromwell displayed in Ireland?

    And isn’t this all beyond the grasp of a 13 year old? Again the vast majority of goyishe kop parents would just be happy if their kids learned to be honest, not grow up to be the next Lenin or Trotsky.
     
    Gosh, I guess that no Gentile thirteen year olds were ever enjoined to imitate Washington, or Henry the 5th.And those stories about the young Alexander modeling himself on Achilles must be total fabrications...

    Here is a great example of one horrible lying Jewish SJW guru praising another despicable liar and both being held up as Jewish cultural icons in their lifetimes.
     
    MMMM, and one could note that a vast number of Gentiles praised Woodrow Wilson, a man with a rather flexible relationship to the truth.....


    And let's close up with a quote from Dietrich of Nieheim:

    Therefore, pay attention, o faithful. For obeying such quarrelers, and supporting those dividing the Church, we see as sinning most gravely and mortally -- dividing, I say, the Body of Christ among their wickednesses and sins. For I believe you have been freed from these tyrannical lordships already, if your obedience were not cherished.
    But if these two or three [popes and antipopes] will not concede voluntarily, it remains to proceed to stronger remedies. That is, overthrowing them and segregating them from the community of the Church, and, as I said before, taking away obedience from them.

    Then, if the Church will not be able to accomplish it in this way, then by way of deceit, fraud, arms, violence, power, promises, gifts and money, and finally, prison and death, it is appropriate to procure in any way whatever the most holy union and conjoining of the Church.

    Close to what was said by Tullius Cicero in De Officiis [III v 23]: 'This is what the laws look for, this is what they will: [the city] to be conjoined safely. So those who break the laws are punished by death, exile, chains, and fines.'
     

    And, as I noted a while back, so eminent a Gentile thinker as Plato had no problems with lying in a good cause (cf the Noble Lie)

    Plato’s “noble lie” in The Republic is part of a larger hypothetical question about how to create an ideal state and society. Only people looking for it would find it to be an endorsement of lying. Is that Leo Strauss’ idea or did he get it from someone else?

    Anyway, the point about the Jewish concept of tikkun olam only makes sense when one reads the complete prayer the phrase comes from: the Alienu prayer. People should do a web search for the complete version and with commentary. It gives an idea of how the Jews see themselves in relation to the other nations and peoples of the world. It’s apparently meant to be said three times a day so it’s not obscure in Judaism.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Only observant Orthodox Jews recite the full Aleinu three times per day. Reform congregations, most of which hold services only on Shabbat, have shortened it in the prayer book and eliminated the lines "For they worship vanity and emptiness, and pray to a god who cannot save." That was in the old Reform Jewish prayer book which was used when during my childhood and early adulthood. The newer Reform prayer book is even more politically correct, and the the whole text of some prayers has been re-written in a politically correct vein. See the description at the website below:

    "Early Reform prayer books in Europe and America omitted the prayer entirely. Both the 20th-century Reform Gates of Prayer (1975) and the recently published Mishkan Tefillah offer several different versions of Aleinu, one of which includes the traditional Hebrew text (without the reference to "a god who cannot save."). The English is translated euphemistically to avoid potentially offensive ideology being expressed by the worshipper. A similar approach is taken by the Conservative Siddur Sim Shalom which translates: "He [God] made our lot unlike that of other people, assigning to us a unique destiny"—a euphemistic translation of the original Hebrew. No Reform, Conservative or Reconstructionist prayer books retain the reference to "a god who cannot save.'"

    http://www.myjewishlearning.com/texts/Liturgy_and_Prayers/Siddur_Prayer_Book/aleinu.shtml

    , @syonredux

    Plato’s “noble lie” in The Republic is part of a larger hypothetical question about how to create an ideal state and society.
     
    And Plato's response to the "hypothetical question about how to create an ideal state and society" involves endorsing lying in the pursuit of a perfect society....

    Only people looking for it would find it to be an endorsement of lying.
     
    It's not an endorsement of mean and vulgar lies; it's an endorsement for lying for great and noble reasons....


    Jefferson:"Al Sharpton and Denzel Washington are both the same age yet Al looks significantly older than Denzel. I wonder if many years of heavy cocaine snorting took a toll on Sharpton’s appearance and speeded up the age processing regarding his appearance.

    “Black Don’t Crack” definitely does not apply to Al Sharpton."

    I think that Sharpton's weight loss has had a lot to do with it:

    According to the New York Daily News, the Rev. Al Sharpton has shrunk from a high of 305 pounds to recently weighing in at 129.6 pounds.
    The activist and commentator said he got the weight off by cutting out red meat and then most other foods until he got down to just having tea, toast and juice for breakfast and fruit, tea and a salad with a hard-boiled egg at lunch. Like Smith, he exercises and stays away from added and processed sugars.
    Sharpton found that the less he ate, the less he missed food.
     
    http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/28/showbiz/celebrity-news-gossip/kevin-smith-al-sharpton-weight-loss/

    That kind of massive, post-middle age weight loss can really do a number on the elasticity of the skin....
    , @Jack D
    Since aleinu appears to pre-date Christianity (or at latest was written in 3rd Century Babylonia, where there were no Christians at the time) the reference to praying to gods who cannot save was meant to refer to heathen gods such as Zeus, not Jesus.

    The words "tikkun olam" in the prayer are just a misprint. In Hebrew there are two letters with a K sound, one equivalent to K and the other to Q and the letters are somewhat similar in shape. TKN means to establish and TQN means to repair. At some point there was a typo and the K became a Q. If you go back to the very old texts, such as were found in the Genizah of Cairo (it was a Jewish custom never to burn sacred texts so in Cairo the community saved its worn out books for thousands of years, until they became accessible to modern scholars in the 19th century) it is written TKN - we pray to establish the world under God’s sovereignty.

    It's really amazing that there are still non-Jews trying to deconstruct Jewish prayers. This was a staple of the Middle Ages - the offending line was censored starting around 1300. Nowadays in America we have bona-fide devil worshipers who fly airplanes into buildings filled with thousands of people, so some obscure line in a prayer is the least of our problems. Get a life, man.
  70. @Steve Sailer
    "No wonder the intense Jewish hostility to the Boy Scouts."

    I don't know, perhaps the biggest Boy Scout troop I've seen in this century was at a liberal Jewish private school in Valley Village about six years ago: 23 Cub Scouts were reaching age 11 and becoming Boy Scouts in one ceremony.

    Steve,

    Yes, there have been pockets of usually highly assimilated Reform Jews who been participating in Boy Scouts for since the founding of scouting. I believe no less than the great Julius Rosenwald, the Sears Roebuck executive, Philanthropist(builder of hundreds of schools for blacks in the South), Eugenicist(Margaret Sanger’s major backer) and Reform Judaism leader, was an early financial supporter of Scouting.

    But, I also happen to remember a Rabbi who wrote regularly for the New York Review of Books back in the eighties who was all upset that there were Jews who allowed their kids to be scouts and spend their summers rubbing elbows with gentiles risking losing their Jewish identities. Far better for them to be immersed in a Jewish identity at strictly Jewish summer camps.

    The NYT, ACLU and other Jewish activist legal groups have been hammering away at the Boy Scouts for decades on a number of fronts. First for not permitting gay scoutmasters, and then on the other hand, when occasional accusations of sexual abuse no matter how specious arise, attempting to see them sued in to ruin.

    Also, you find me Rabbis who want out of the closet Gays as leaders at their Jewish camps and we’ll talk.

    One last thing, I use to help run a adult year round outdoors club out of Chicago. One of the members who helped me run several summer camping trips was born Jewish. As a kid, his family moved around Iowa, Nebraska and Kansas for his dad’s job. To help him make new friends in different towns they enrolled him in Scouts and he loved it. However, he made it very clear that the rest of the family back in North Chicago suburbs had the Rabbi on phone telling his parents that what they were doing was a shonda. It made things really hard on his folks and it ended up turning him off on most things Jewish.

    • Replies: @syonredux

    Yes, there have been pockets of usually highly assimilated Reform Jews who been participating in Boy Scouts for since the founding of scouting. I believe no less than the great Julius Rosenwald, the Sears Roebuck executive, Philanthropist(builder of hundreds of schools for blacks in the South), Eugenicist(Margaret Sanger’s major backer) and Reform Judaism leader, was an early financial supporter of Scouting.
     
    And, of course, those are the Jews who are most prone to interpret Tikkun Olam in a Social Gospel sense, whereas the ultra-Orthodox are much more inclined to read it as an injunction towards punctilious observation of the Law.....

    But, I also happen to remember a Rabbi
     
    Could you be so kind as to name him?

    who wrote regularly for the New York Review of Books back in the eighties who was all upset that there were Jews who allowed their kids to be scouts and spend their summers rubbing elbows with gentiles risking losing their Jewish identities. Far better for them to be immersed in a Jewish identity at strictly Jewish summer camps.
     
    Which has roughly zero to do with disliking the Scouts because they promote honesty as a virtue....

    The NYT, ACLU and other Jewish activist legal groups
     
    Is the ACLU a "Jewish activist" group? I did a quick look through its leadership roster, and there seemed to be a lot of Gentiles: Anthony Romero, Terence Dougherty, Emily Tynes, Laura W. Murphy, Donna McKay, etc

    And, of course, the ACLU took the free speech side in the Skokie case, which was not exactly popular among Jews:

    It is the policy of the ACLU to support the civil liberties of defendants regardless of their ideological stance. The ACLU takes pride in defending individuals with unpopular or bigoted viewpoints, such as George Wallace, George Lincoln Rockwell, and KKK members.[266] The ACLU has defended American Nazis many times, and their actions often brought protests, particularly from American Jews.[267]

    In 1977, a small group of American Nazis, led by Frank Collin, applied to the town of Skokie, Illinois for permission to hold a demonstration in the town park. Skokie at the time had a majority population of Jews, totaling 40,000 of 70,000 citizens, some of whom were survivors of Nazi concentration camps. Skokie refused to grant permission, and an Illinois judge supported Skokie and prohibited the demonstration.[52] Skokie immediately passed three ordinances aimed at preventing the group from meeting in Skokie. The ACLU assisted Collin and appealed to federal court.[52] The appeal dragged on for a year, and the ACLU eventually prevailed in Smith v. Collin, 447 F.Supp. 676.[268]

    The Skokie case was heavily publicized across America, partially because Jewish groups such as the Jewish Defense League and Anti Defamation League strenuously objected to the demonstration, leading many members of the ACLU to cancel their memberships.[52] The Illinois affiliate of the ACLU lost about 25% of its membership and nearly one-third of its budget.[269][270][271][272] The financial strain from the controversy led to layoffs at local chapters.[273] After the membership crisis died down, the ACLU sent out a fund-raising appeal which explained their rationale for the Skokie case, and raised over $500,000 ($1,945,909 in 2014 dollars[274]).[275]
     

    have been hammering away at the Boy Scouts for decades on a number of fronts. First for not permitting gay scoutmasters, and then on the other hand, when occasional accusations of sexual abuse no matter how specious arise, attempting to see them sued in to ruin.
     
    Doesn't this have rather more to do with what Steve likes to call World War G than with hating the Scouts because they promote honesty?

    Also, you find me Rabbis who want out of the closet Gays as leaders at their Jewish camps and we’ll talk.
     
    About what?

    One last thing, I use to help run a adult year round outdoors club out of Chicago. One of the members who helped me run several summer camping trips was born Jewish. As a kid, his family moved around Iowa, Nebraska and Kansas for his dad’s job. To help him make new friends in different towns they enrolled him in Scouts and he loved it. However, he made it very clear that the rest of the family back in North Chicago suburbs had the Rabbi on phone telling his parents that what they were doing was a shonda. It made things really hard on his folks and it ended up turning him off on most things Jewish.
     
    Personal anecdotes, eh? Well, both of my Jewish uncles were Scouts, and they didn't encounter any opposition from friends and family
  71. “Perhaps after writing so many dubious articles, Sabrina Rubin Erdely wanted to get caught too?”

    I doubt it. I think she’s the type of journalist who is simply more interested in narrative than truth. I was reading this interesting article on James Randi in The Daily Telegraph — http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/film-news/11270453/James-Randi-debunking-the-king-of-the-debunkers.html — when a quote from documentary maker Justin Weinstein caught my eye:

    The film’s director, Justin Weinstein, says he’s aware of this very different perspective on the Carlos Hoax. But, he says, his documentary is not strictly a work of journalism. Rather, like Randi, he’s a storyteller. “Sometimes there are greater truths you can reach when you don’t adhere to the facts.”

    I think Rubin Erdely and Weinstein have a lot in common.

  72. As tonight is the announcement for the 2015 Heisman Trophy winner, it’s interesting to note that a couple of years back one candidacy in particular, Mante Te’o, nearly won the prize because of a catfishing story. Te’o, along with a relative, concocted a made up girlfriend who passed away in a tragic accident and that Te’o constantly remembered her. Each game he played was dedicated to her memory. After a while the media started poking around and easily found holes in the whole story (there wasn’t any GF, etc).

    Te’o finished second in the Heisman balloting and is now a starter for SD in the NFL. So no harm no foul.

  73. I am an RS subscriber. I only read the half of the first page. I thought it was a work of fiction. RS has published fiction before, most notably by Tom Wolfe.
    I wonder what the issue is. Was the editorial staff too dumb that they did not notice the errors or that they knew. since the article fits their world view, they did not care if it was a lie.
    With the cover of the Boston bomber and now this, will RS survive Should it survive?

  74. @FactsAreImportant

    And gee isn’t it so very coincidental that painfully obvious fraudsters like Glass and Rubin Erdely are able to survive so long by defaming conservatives and conservative institutions. It’s almost like this corruption is normative among journalists and only the most egregious offenders (eventually) get punished.
     
    Lena Dunham too? She describes her alleged rapist as a Republican. What are the odds given that Republicans must be incredibly rare at Oberlin? What are the odds that she would allow a well-known Republican to even get close to her?

    Regarding Lena's story, I'm thinking that she intentionally made up ludicrous details to describe her alleged attacker so that no one would fit the description, and that she did this to avoid libel accusations. Every descriptor is highly unlikely: purple cowboy boots, big mustache, Republican (at Oberlin), unusual name (Barry), and host of an apparently non-existent talk show. Perhaps the legal department at her publisher supported this, to avoid libel suits.

    She has already admitted that the name was made up, so why not the other descriptors? This might actually be a bit praiseworthy in that it might reflect an intention to not harm any actual person. Slandering Republicans is just a side benefit, and, in her world, slandering Republicans is probably just a given, like water is a given to a fish.

    The problem is, it raises questions about the other details of the alleged "rape". Are those made up too? Is it just a given to her that young college women suffer outrageous sexual harassment? Is that just more water that she swims in?

    What are the odds that [Lena Dunham] would allow a well-known Republican to even get close to her?

    Low. Even in the same room.

    Angie Dickinson claimed she’s never knowingly slept with a Republican. And she’s had plenty of time– I’m older than Steve, and Angie’s older than my mom.

  75. “What are the odds that [Lena Dunham] would allow a well-known Republican to even get close to her?”

    I have dated and had sex with Left Wing women before. I live in the Bay Area so I can not be too picky regarding a woman’s political views when it comes to dating material because there are not a lot of women here who have the same political views as Jeanine Pirro for example who would be more politically compatible with me.

  76. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Cagey Beast
    And, as I noted a while back, so eminent a Gentile thinker as Plato had no problems with lying in a good cause (cf the Noble Lie)

    Plato's "noble lie" in The Republic is part of a larger hypothetical question about how to create an ideal state and society. Only people looking for it would find it to be an endorsement of lying. Is that Leo Strauss' idea or did he get it from someone else?

    Anyway, the point about the Jewish concept of tikkun olam only makes sense when one reads the complete prayer the phrase comes from: the Alienu prayer. People should do a web search for the complete version and with commentary. It gives an idea of how the Jews see themselves in relation to the other nations and peoples of the world. It's apparently meant to be said three times a day so it's not obscure in Judaism.

    Only observant Orthodox Jews recite the full Aleinu three times per day. Reform congregations, most of which hold services only on Shabbat, have shortened it in the prayer book and eliminated the lines “For they worship vanity and emptiness, and pray to a god who cannot save.” That was in the old Reform Jewish prayer book which was used when during my childhood and early adulthood. The newer Reform prayer book is even more politically correct, and the the whole text of some prayers has been re-written in a politically correct vein. See the description at the website below:

    “Early Reform prayer books in Europe and America omitted the prayer entirely. Both the 20th-century Reform Gates of Prayer (1975) and the recently published Mishkan Tefillah offer several different versions of Aleinu, one of which includes the traditional Hebrew text (without the reference to “a god who cannot save.”). The English is translated euphemistically to avoid potentially offensive ideology being expressed by the worshipper. A similar approach is taken by the Conservative Siddur Sim Shalom which translates: “He [God] made our lot unlike that of other people, assigning to us a unique destiny”—a euphemistic translation of the original Hebrew. No Reform, Conservative or Reconstructionist prayer books retain the reference to “a god who cannot save.’”

    http://www.myjewishlearning.com/texts/Liturgy_and_Prayers/Siddur_Prayer_Book/aleinu.shtml

  77. Rubin Erdely gave Jackies love interest the pseudonym “Randall”. Stephen Glass middelname is – of course – Randall. Are we through the looking glass yet? (Sorry!)

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    Rubin Erdely gave Jackies love interest the pseudonym “Randall”. Stephen Glass middelname is – of course – Randall.

    Very interesting. I'm becoming convinced that Rubin Erdely had the Stephen Glass saga churning in the back of her mind as she worked on this UVA story, ie: "I'm doing what Stephen did. I'm getting close to what brought down Stephen "Shattered Glass", what got Stephen Randall Glass in trouble .... " Churn, churn, churn ....

  78. @dearieme
    "Most kids at the big State U’s are pretty grounded and goal-oriented."


    Does that mean tedious and earnest, or something more interesting?

    Interesting people are thin on the ground everywhere. However, flagship state schools have tens of thousands of students and attract a broad enough range of abilities and attributes so that some of those people are far on the right hand side of whatever curve might measure “interesting.” For example, I know — distantly — a guy who started out at a community college, then moved on to Michigan State. He’s now a professor of physics at Ohio State. I can’t really say how interesting he is, because I’ve only met him briefly once or twice, but this is not the typical trajectory for a community college student.

    I also have a friend who attended the University of Georgia, got her Masters from Oxford, and more recently received a MacArthur fellowship (the so called “genius” grant) as a poet and translator.

    Of course, lots of people probably wouldn’t find either of these two individuals interesting, but it may give you an idea. Most large state schools have, admittedly, only a minority, of such students.

  79. @Yngvar
    Rubin Erdely gave Jackies love interest the pseudonym "Randall". Stephen Glass middelname is - of course - Randall. Are we through the looking glass yet? (Sorry!)

    Rubin Erdely gave Jackies love interest the pseudonym “Randall”. Stephen Glass middelname is – of course – Randall.

    Very interesting. I’m becoming convinced that Rubin Erdely had the Stephen Glass saga churning in the back of her mind as she worked on this UVA story, ie: “I’m doing what Stephen did. I’m getting close to what brought down Stephen “Shattered Glass”, what got Stephen Randall Glass in trouble …. ” Churn, churn, churn ….

  80. @anonymous-antimarxist
    Steve,

    Yes, there have been pockets of usually highly assimilated Reform Jews who been participating in Boy Scouts for since the founding of scouting. I believe no less than the great Julius Rosenwald, the Sears Roebuck executive, Philanthropist(builder of hundreds of schools for blacks in the South), Eugenicist(Margaret Sanger's major backer) and Reform Judaism leader, was an early financial supporter of Scouting.

    But, I also happen to remember a Rabbi who wrote regularly for the New York Review of Books back in the eighties who was all upset that there were Jews who allowed their kids to be scouts and spend their summers rubbing elbows with gentiles risking losing their Jewish identities. Far better for them to be immersed in a Jewish identity at strictly Jewish summer camps.

    The NYT, ACLU and other Jewish activist legal groups have been hammering away at the Boy Scouts for decades on a number of fronts. First for not permitting gay scoutmasters, and then on the other hand, when occasional accusations of sexual abuse no matter how specious arise, attempting to see them sued in to ruin.

    Also, you find me Rabbis who want out of the closet Gays as leaders at their Jewish camps and we'll talk.

    One last thing, I use to help run a adult year round outdoors club out of Chicago. One of the members who helped me run several summer camping trips was born Jewish. As a kid, his family moved around Iowa, Nebraska and Kansas for his dad's job. To help him make new friends in different towns they enrolled him in Scouts and he loved it. However, he made it very clear that the rest of the family back in North Chicago suburbs had the Rabbi on phone telling his parents that what they were doing was a shonda. It made things really hard on his folks and it ended up turning him off on most things Jewish.

    Yes, there have been pockets of usually highly assimilated Reform Jews who been participating in Boy Scouts for since the founding of scouting. I believe no less than the great Julius Rosenwald, the Sears Roebuck executive, Philanthropist(builder of hundreds of schools for blacks in the South), Eugenicist(Margaret Sanger’s major backer) and Reform Judaism leader, was an early financial supporter of Scouting.

    And, of course, those are the Jews who are most prone to interpret Tikkun Olam in a Social Gospel sense, whereas the ultra-Orthodox are much more inclined to read it as an injunction towards punctilious observation of the Law…..

    But, I also happen to remember a Rabbi

    Could you be so kind as to name him?

    who wrote regularly for the New York Review of Books back in the eighties who was all upset that there were Jews who allowed their kids to be scouts and spend their summers rubbing elbows with gentiles risking losing their Jewish identities. Far better for them to be immersed in a Jewish identity at strictly Jewish summer camps.

    Which has roughly zero to do with disliking the Scouts because they promote honesty as a virtue….

    The NYT, ACLU and other Jewish activist legal groups

    Is the ACLU a “Jewish activist” group? I did a quick look through its leadership roster, and there seemed to be a lot of Gentiles: Anthony Romero, Terence Dougherty, Emily Tynes, Laura W. Murphy, Donna McKay, etc

    And, of course, the ACLU took the free speech side in the Skokie case, which was not exactly popular among Jews:

    It is the policy of the ACLU to support the civil liberties of defendants regardless of their ideological stance. The ACLU takes pride in defending individuals with unpopular or bigoted viewpoints, such as George Wallace, George Lincoln Rockwell, and KKK members.[266] The ACLU has defended American Nazis many times, and their actions often brought protests, particularly from American Jews.[267]

    In 1977, a small group of American Nazis, led by Frank Collin, applied to the town of Skokie, Illinois for permission to hold a demonstration in the town park. Skokie at the time had a majority population of Jews, totaling 40,000 of 70,000 citizens, some of whom were survivors of Nazi concentration camps. Skokie refused to grant permission, and an Illinois judge supported Skokie and prohibited the demonstration.[52] Skokie immediately passed three ordinances aimed at preventing the group from meeting in Skokie. The ACLU assisted Collin and appealed to federal court.[52] The appeal dragged on for a year, and the ACLU eventually prevailed in Smith v. Collin, 447 F.Supp. 676.[268]

    The Skokie case was heavily publicized across America, partially because Jewish groups such as the Jewish Defense League and Anti Defamation League strenuously objected to the demonstration, leading many members of the ACLU to cancel their memberships.[52] The Illinois affiliate of the ACLU lost about 25% of its membership and nearly one-third of its budget.[269][270][271][272] The financial strain from the controversy led to layoffs at local chapters.[273] After the membership crisis died down, the ACLU sent out a fund-raising appeal which explained their rationale for the Skokie case, and raised over $500,000 ($1,945,909 in 2014 dollars[274]).[275]

    have been hammering away at the Boy Scouts for decades on a number of fronts. First for not permitting gay scoutmasters, and then on the other hand, when occasional accusations of sexual abuse no matter how specious arise, attempting to see them sued in to ruin.

    Doesn’t this have rather more to do with what Steve likes to call World War G than with hating the Scouts because they promote honesty?

    Also, you find me Rabbis who want out of the closet Gays as leaders at their Jewish camps and we’ll talk.

    About what?

    One last thing, I use to help run a adult year round outdoors club out of Chicago. One of the members who helped me run several summer camping trips was born Jewish. As a kid, his family moved around Iowa, Nebraska and Kansas for his dad’s job. To help him make new friends in different towns they enrolled him in Scouts and he loved it. However, he made it very clear that the rest of the family back in North Chicago suburbs had the Rabbi on phone telling his parents that what they were doing was a shonda. It made things really hard on his folks and it ended up turning him off on most things Jewish.

    Personal anecdotes, eh? Well, both of my Jewish uncles were Scouts, and they didn’t encounter any opposition from friends and family

  81. @Cagey Beast
    And, as I noted a while back, so eminent a Gentile thinker as Plato had no problems with lying in a good cause (cf the Noble Lie)

    Plato's "noble lie" in The Republic is part of a larger hypothetical question about how to create an ideal state and society. Only people looking for it would find it to be an endorsement of lying. Is that Leo Strauss' idea or did he get it from someone else?

    Anyway, the point about the Jewish concept of tikkun olam only makes sense when one reads the complete prayer the phrase comes from: the Alienu prayer. People should do a web search for the complete version and with commentary. It gives an idea of how the Jews see themselves in relation to the other nations and peoples of the world. It's apparently meant to be said three times a day so it's not obscure in Judaism.

    Plato’s “noble lie” in The Republic is part of a larger hypothetical question about how to create an ideal state and society.

    And Plato’s response to the “hypothetical question about how to create an ideal state and society” involves endorsing lying in the pursuit of a perfect society….

    Only people looking for it would find it to be an endorsement of lying.

    It’s not an endorsement of mean and vulgar lies; it’s an endorsement for lying for great and noble reasons….

    Jefferson:”Al Sharpton and Denzel Washington are both the same age yet Al looks significantly older than Denzel. I wonder if many years of heavy cocaine snorting took a toll on Sharpton’s appearance and speeded up the age processing regarding his appearance.

    “Black Don’t Crack” definitely does not apply to Al Sharpton.”

    I think that Sharpton’s weight loss has had a lot to do with it:

    According to the New York Daily News, the Rev. Al Sharpton has shrunk from a high of 305 pounds to recently weighing in at 129.6 pounds.
    The activist and commentator said he got the weight off by cutting out red meat and then most other foods until he got down to just having tea, toast and juice for breakfast and fruit, tea and a salad with a hard-boiled egg at lunch. Like Smith, he exercises and stays away from added and processed sugars.
    Sharpton found that the less he ate, the less he missed food.

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/28/showbiz/celebrity-news-gossip/kevin-smith-al-sharpton-weight-loss/

    That kind of massive, post-middle age weight loss can really do a number on the elasticity of the skin….

  82. There is a petition for Amazon to stop advertising at Gawker Media …

    That is one way to strike back at all the crazies:

    https://www.change.org/p/amazon-com-get-google-and-amazon-to-stop-advertising-on-gawker-media?just_created=true

  83. @Cagey Beast
    And, as I noted a while back, so eminent a Gentile thinker as Plato had no problems with lying in a good cause (cf the Noble Lie)

    Plato's "noble lie" in The Republic is part of a larger hypothetical question about how to create an ideal state and society. Only people looking for it would find it to be an endorsement of lying. Is that Leo Strauss' idea or did he get it from someone else?

    Anyway, the point about the Jewish concept of tikkun olam only makes sense when one reads the complete prayer the phrase comes from: the Alienu prayer. People should do a web search for the complete version and with commentary. It gives an idea of how the Jews see themselves in relation to the other nations and peoples of the world. It's apparently meant to be said three times a day so it's not obscure in Judaism.

    Since aleinu appears to pre-date Christianity (or at latest was written in 3rd Century Babylonia, where there were no Christians at the time) the reference to praying to gods who cannot save was meant to refer to heathen gods such as Zeus, not Jesus.

    The words “tikkun olam” in the prayer are just a misprint. In Hebrew there are two letters with a K sound, one equivalent to K and the other to Q and the letters are somewhat similar in shape. TKN means to establish and TQN means to repair. At some point there was a typo and the K became a Q. If you go back to the very old texts, such as were found in the Genizah of Cairo (it was a Jewish custom never to burn sacred texts so in Cairo the community saved its worn out books for thousands of years, until they became accessible to modern scholars in the 19th century) it is written TKN – we pray to establish the world under God’s sovereignty.

    It’s really amazing that there are still non-Jews trying to deconstruct Jewish prayers. This was a staple of the Middle Ages – the offending line was censored starting around 1300. Nowadays in America we have bona-fide devil worshipers who fly airplanes into buildings filled with thousands of people, so some obscure line in a prayer is the least of our problems. Get a life, man.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    Re: the aleinu prayer:

    Here's a web page from Boston College with the full text of the prayer, a brief introduction and a short piece of commentary:
    http://www.bc.edu/content/dam/files/research_sites/cjl/texts/cjrelations/resources/sourcebook/Aleynu.htm
  84. @Jack D
    Since aleinu appears to pre-date Christianity (or at latest was written in 3rd Century Babylonia, where there were no Christians at the time) the reference to praying to gods who cannot save was meant to refer to heathen gods such as Zeus, not Jesus.

    The words "tikkun olam" in the prayer are just a misprint. In Hebrew there are two letters with a K sound, one equivalent to K and the other to Q and the letters are somewhat similar in shape. TKN means to establish and TQN means to repair. At some point there was a typo and the K became a Q. If you go back to the very old texts, such as were found in the Genizah of Cairo (it was a Jewish custom never to burn sacred texts so in Cairo the community saved its worn out books for thousands of years, until they became accessible to modern scholars in the 19th century) it is written TKN - we pray to establish the world under God’s sovereignty.

    It's really amazing that there are still non-Jews trying to deconstruct Jewish prayers. This was a staple of the Middle Ages - the offending line was censored starting around 1300. Nowadays in America we have bona-fide devil worshipers who fly airplanes into buildings filled with thousands of people, so some obscure line in a prayer is the least of our problems. Get a life, man.

    Re: the aleinu prayer:

    Here’s a web page from Boston College with the full text of the prayer, a brief introduction and a short piece of commentary:
    http://www.bc.edu/content/dam/files/research_sites/cjl/texts/cjrelations/resources/sourcebook/Aleynu.htm

  85. “So what’s the point of Erdely including all these Shattered Glass literary clues that her story is a fabrication? Did they subconsciously slip in through some Freudian process? Did she put them there consciously to indicate guilt? Self-loathing? Or was Erdely trying to top her old boss? Was she playing a game to express her contempt for her audience by dangling evidence that she was engaged in a Shattered Glass-style hoax directly in front of everyone’s noses?”

    Perhaps, or perhaps it’s just coincidence. Given the way that Erdely has gone into hiding (as far as I know she still hasn’t spoken since the story crumbles), I doubt she consciously wanted to get caught. I suspect she knows that many of her other articles are going to come crashing down soon and is emotionally distraught, so I hope someone is with her and has put away the sharp objects.

    This does suggest why Hanna Rosin was not a friendly interviewer. She had been fooled by Glass and didn’t want to be fooled again. I think Rosin knew the article was crap when she interviewed Erdely.

    BTW, I think Glass should have been able to get his law license. How long should you hold someone’s past transgressions against him? What would he have to do to be allowed a law lic.? If I was a moneybags magazine editor, I would consider hiring Glass to write a article exposing Erdely’ other work. Who better to spot fabrications?

  86. WhatEvvs [AKA "Bemused"] says:

    Intrigued by your glass theory, I searched for glass references in the transgender story. There are 5 mentions, of which 2 sounds like the UVA story.

    “”I’ll take all of you bitches on!” Flaherty hollered, and smashed CeCe in the side of her face with a glass tumbler.”

    “When the two sides separated, panting and disoriented, Flaherty was curled up amid the broken glass screaming”

    There are several possibilities. This really happened and Erdely, realizing how violent imagery sells, inserted similar references into the UVA story, or neither happened.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Thanks.
  87. @WhatEvvs
    Intrigued by your glass theory, I searched for glass references in the transgender story. There are 5 mentions, of which 2 sounds like the UVA story.

    ""I'll take all of you bitches on!" Flaherty hollered, and smashed CeCe in the side of her face with a glass tumbler."

    "When the two sides separated, panting and disoriented, Flaherty was curled up amid the broken glass screaming"

    There are several possibilities. This really happened and Erdely, realizing how violent imagery sells, inserted similar references into the UVA story, or neither happened.

    Thanks.

  88. “If you go back to the original Rolling Stone article, it was a glass TABLE at the party. Because we all know that frat rape rooms are furnished Bauhaus style.”

    A glass coffee table, iirc. They are quite common. I think most every member of my family owns at least one. We replaced the glass coffee table I broke with…a different glass coffee table.

    Never never ever buy a glass dining table, however. They are hell to keep clean.

  89. Not that this matters much, but it does appear that there was broken glass in the original incident. Mother Jones is a more reputable source:

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/05/cece-mcdonald-transgender-hate-crime-murder

    It was an ugly fight that resulted in the death of one of the combatants. It was not a civil rights issue.

  90. […] an open question whether liberals will let Trevor Noah make funny observations about rioters, catfishers, or perverse exhibitionists. Noah might like to, but before he has even started hosting The Daily […]

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