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Donald Trump is a member of the World Wrestling Entertainment Hall of Fame for various forays, including bodyslamming WWE owner Vince McMahon at WrestleMania 23 in 2007. Whether this is appropriately Presidential is something for the voters to decide.

What I haven’t seen pointed out is that Trump’s seemingly novel methods are actually following in the footsteps of some of the paths blazed out by Justin Trudeau, who was elected Prime Minister of Canada last fall.

Trudeau’s path to power included celebrity, bad language, Twitter traffic, and the single most important event in his rise, a bruising 3-round triumph in a widely-publicized charity boxing match over a Conservative politician in 2012.

The video above shows the third round in which the taller Trudeau (in red), then 40, pummeled Conservative Senator Patrick Brazeau (in blue), the former national chief of the Congress of Aboriginal Peoples. (Brazeau has since been suspended from Canada’s Senate for various domestic violence and drug-related charges and is now the day manager at an Ottawa strip club.) Note Trudeau’s insolent stroll back to the neutral corner while the ref tries to assess how much neurological damage he’s done to his opponent.

From the NYT Magazine in 2015:

The younger Trudeau’s road to victory as prime minister truly began on a Saturday night in 2012 in a boxing ring in Ottawa. At the time, the Liberal Party was leaderless and lost, after a devastating defeat in the election of 2011 reduced its seats in Parliament to only 34, roughly one-tenth of the total at the time. … Aiming to change the political dynamic, Trudeau literally picked a fight. In what looked like a publicity stunt, he challenged a 37-year-old Conservative senator named Patrick Brazeau, known as Brass Knuckles, to three rounds of boxing to raise money for cancer research.

Everyone expected Trudeau to receive a royal beating, including his wife. Brazeau had a black belt in karate and a military background, and he grew up on hardscrabble First Nations reservations; his bar brawler’s physique, tattoos and trash-talking bravado made him the three-to-one favorite by fight night.

… The bout was stopped in the third round, saving Brazeau the indignity of hitting the canvas.

The commentator recognized the importance of the victory. ‘‘I can hear it already,’’ he sighed. ‘‘Trudeau for leader.’’

The Trudeau-Trump analogies haven’t been widely picked up on for reasons of:

- ideology (Trudeau is a Liberal);

- looks (Trudeau is a pretty boy who inherited the looks of his mom Margaret, one of the most famous model-groupies of the 1970s, rather than his dad, the saturnine prime minister Pierre);

- and American stereotypes of Canadians as mild. (In reality, Canadians love punching each other in the head: “I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out” — Rodney Dangerfield).

 

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  1. From what little I see of that fight, Trudeau looks relatively uncoordinated but youthful, fit and with good reach. His opponent looks to have the opposite qualities, having enough cardio for only about 2 rounds unfortunately.

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  2. So much I love it. I wrote a book and actually do know whats going to happen next. elloell. I’d forgotten about Rosie O’Donnell ahahahah

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  3. For all intents and purposes, Canadians chose Kim Kardashian as prime minister. Further proof that women shouldn’t be allowed to vote.

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  4. Still think the Berlusconi comparison is more apt.

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  5. Man oh mighty me. That video could be devastating for many on the alt right. Who would have thunk a leftist with such a devastating hook?

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  6. Trudeau would love to punch Trump in the head. Like everyone else, Trudeau has no hesitation to express his opinions about Trump. If Trump becomes President, it’ll be a frosty meeting between the pair.

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  7. Why isn’t this a thing in the US? Boxing is a good way to resolve conflict plus it’s far more civilized than dueling.

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  8. Showing once again that conservatives talk tough but cannot fight in real life.

    Look a heartiste. He writes like he thinks he’s a bad butt but he won’t even reveal his true name or spit his bile to anyone’s face.

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  9. The video above shows the third round in which Trudeau (in blue), then 40, pummeled Conservative Senator Patrick Brazeau (in red), the former national chief of the Congress of Aboriginal Peoples.

    Photos of this clown show a hefty guy with lots of muscle turned to flab. Plus he wears two earrings which sapped his strength during the Trudeau boxing match. He was a First Nations version of Tex Cobb. Perhaps a drinker too? Which impaired his pugilistic talents?

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  10. “The video above shows the third round in which Trudeau (in blue), then 40, pummeled Conservative Senator Patrick Brazeau (in red),”

    I believe you have the colors reversed.

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  11. It is the tattoos that stand out for me rather than the boxing ( other politicians such as Australia’s recently deposed Prime Minister Tony Abbott have a history of amateur boxing ).

    Is it de rigueur in Canada for politicians to be inked up ?

    Actually Trudeau v Abbott would make for an entertaining Commonwealth left v right pugilistic contest

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  12. I’m not sure many people (including the candidate?) fully appreciate that Trump’s success is mostly for ideological reasons.

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  13. I think you mean Trudeau (in red) and Brazeau (in blue).

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  14. That boxing match and the video of Trudeau doing some Indian dancing are enough to make me believe that Canada has reached idiocracy ahead of the US, but then I remember that Barack Obama gave us his March Madness bracket and I’m reassured.

    Trudeau insisted on having a cabinet that was 50/50 male/female. When asked why his entirely sensible response was “because it’s 2015.”

    He’s a clown. If he ran a real country that would be of more consequence. Since Canada is a country of no significance they’re free to remind us of that fact by electing imbeciles like Justin Trudeau.

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  15. “Brazeau has since been suspended from Canada’s Senate for various domestic violence and drug-related charges and is now the day manager at an Ottawa strip club”

    The drug charges and the fact that he’s American Indian suggest that by that point his brain and cardiovascular fitness levels had already been seriously addled by a decade or two of drug and alcohol abuse. At 20 he probably would have KO’d a guy like Trudeau. Not at 37, however.

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  16. I see zero similarities.

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  17. Trudeau’s in the red, not the blue.

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  18. Many top level Canadian hockey prospects do not consider US college hockey because fighting is not allowed. They’d rather duke it out in the Canadian junior leagues. Doubt if Trudeau is a hockey fan, though.

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  19. No mentions of Canadians (both anglo- & franco-), hockey and just knocking the spit out of someone can be made complete without mentioning Warren Zevon’s great song “Hit Somebody” (http://bit.ly/1WrqN3s).

    Canadian (and American; lesser numbers/capita, but with the same intensity) fans respect and are amazed by the skill and scoring prowess and beauty of players like Lemieux and Gretzky; Dionne and Richard. But that is in accessible. Only .01% of the population can do that. But they LOVE the 4th line fighter types, scraping a living out protecting those guys and dropping the gloves when asked to, either unofficially by coaches or officially by other team’s tough guys. To have it made up through the minors, showing the hard work and dedication to make it to the show…now, that’s someone who had to WORK. There’s a reason for this, and it’s part of why hockey is the best.

    N.B. I understand this part of the game is being phased out slowly over time, but I have a feeling it will never be done away with completely. 1/ Players who are not professional goons just need fighting as a release valve. See here: http://nydn.us/1U7GONv and 2/ It’s just too strongly correlated with fun. People care, they stand up, they watch, they get involved. The only positive correlation (other than price) to attendance in the NHL is winning and # of fights/game.

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  20. The Trudeau-Trump analogies haven’t been widely picked up on

    Because the Trudeau-Obama analogies are much more apt: a pretty-boy leader with no experience and no clue, seeing himself as the restorer of Trudeaupia – massive immigration of Muslim migrants who can be counted on to vote Liberal from now ’til Kingdom Come, “hate speech” laws, massive expansion of government, frivolous spending, handing out the goodies to union pals, etc.

    Pre-election Trudeau suggested that the budget will balance itself, and that instead of dropping bombs on ISIS Canada should drop parkas on them.

    Obama golfs, Trudeau takes selfies. And all the press up here have a tingle going up their legs.

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  21. Expecting a statesman to be an accomplished pugilist makes as much sense as giving an important government job to a Klichko.

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  22. Putin could probably whup pretty boy with one arm tied behind his back. The Russian should suggest single combat as a means for settling Russo-Canadian disputes over Arctic territorial boundaries. Trudeau is probably stupid and arrogant enough to accept the challenge. It would be worth the price of admission to see Putin doing a victory dance over his opponent’s broken body.

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  23. Trudeau is actually wearing red.

    He is almost comically open. Brazeau demonstrates what an utter joke black belts in Karate are. A boxer with a few weeks of training under their belt would have been able to knock out Trudeau with ease at almost no physical cost to themselves.

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  24. I’m not sure many people (including the candidate?) fully appreciate that Trump’s success is mostly for ideological reasons.

    Trump is no ideologue. He’s all gut. Much the same as his voters.

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  25. Peter Brimelow wrote a wonderful book about Canada called The Tangled Skein(?). He wrote about Pierre (whom he loathed), saying this: “Pierre Elliot Trudeau was not a great Prime Minister of Canada. Indeed, he was not even a good Prime Minister of Canada. But he was a great man. Unquestionably the greatest man who has ever been Prime Minister of Canada.”

    He then went on to write in open admiration of the man’s sheer physical courage.

    Item: He’s 70. A trucker walks into a bar and starts giving him the gears. Pierre throws down, says, “Let’s go right fucking now.” Trucker backs off. Lots of other incidents. Sheer physical courage.

    Item: (my favourite): Pierre’s on a stage with Quebec Liberal pols in the 60s, an angry ugly time in Quebec. A group of radical separatists charge the stage, throwing material at the pols. What material? Tomatoes? Rotten eggs? Uh-uh. Slabs of concrete. Bottles.

    The pols flee, instantly. Except one. Guess who? Pierre, of course! He’s sitting in a folding chair, rock and stone and glass exploding all over the stage…and he doesn’t budge. He adopts the Cicero pose, musing, Rodin’s thinker, but with a sneer of contempt for his assaulters…and sits there, not moving an inch. There’s a pic out there if you want to find it.

    Courage. Sheer physical courage. I knew his son had the same quality, and the parasitical (Native) thug Brazeau (a corruptoid kinda-Indian who is living the life today to which he was born) with his martial arts training and his bullshit rodomontade, didn’t stand a chance.

    Justin’s his father’s son. Combative chip off the old fearless block.

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  26. Well, I admit its national pride, and I can assure you I did not vote for his party [his surname is poison as far as I am concerned], but I would say Trudeau is much prettier than Obama but I see no evidence he’s actually any dumber.

    As to idiocracy, we have our share on both ends of the spectrum, but I recently stumbled on this:

    http://rmitz.org/freebsd.daemon.html the classic tale of Texans upset by a cartoon devil.

    I’m willing to offer some benefit of the doubt, but even I am alarmed by how plausible this incident seems to me. If it’s true, America wins idiocracy forever on the strength of that incident alone. Of course, it’s also America that invented the software and generated the mascot, so there’s that too.

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  27. The video above shows the third round in which Trudeau (in blue), then 40, pummeled Conservative Senator Patrick Brazeau (in red)

    Steve, Trudeau is the one in red.

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  28. Said the guy who wants safe spaces and anti-hate speech codes.

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  29. And according to Tarek Fatah multi-cult and mosque loving Trudeau said the Shahada, the statement one recites to become Muslim. I’m sure as with all other things he was unaware of what he was doing.

    Tarek Fatah’s tweet regarding Trudeau reciting the Shahada

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  30. Steve,
    Don’t give Trump any ideas. There’s a limit to the amount of humiliation I can see a man take. And if he got in the ring with Jeb! we’d have reached that point.

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  31. OT but I’d the GOP has any brains they will make hay out of the attack by BLM thugs on marine Chris Marquez #hispaniclivesdontmatter?

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  32. I think Teddy Roosevelt also was an amateur boxer.

    I agree the tatoos are most striking. I can understand them on Brazeau, who has exactly the background and lifestyle, other than being a Senator (and the Canadian Senate is not exactly one of the world’s top upper chambers), where you used to expect tattoos when they were rare. Now unfortunately its rare to find someone under 40 without them. But Trudeau is 44. He really has no excuse.

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  33. To be fair, a country that had an economy and population (over 30 million people) the size of Canada would be a serious regional power if it was located somewhere else. Canadians don’t really like the fact that everyone views them as sort of an appendage to the U.S.

    However, making a high school teacher with really no other experience PM doesn’t help their cause.

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  34. Wow – where did this come from? Really fascinating!

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  35. Wow, I’m starting to like Trudeau a little…..

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  36. Isn’t Trudeau’s enthusiasm a tad unseemly given his reach and fitness advantage?

    He challenged the guy ostensibly in aid of charity.

    But I don’t know the background.

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  38. Interesting that Brazeau is a conservative. You’d think a minority identity-politics guy would be for the party that promises more free stuff.

    Maybe a Canadian reader could comment on this. And while you’re at it: was Trudeau known to have any boxing experience? It would be amazing for a first-timer to do that well against an avid amateur boxer and brawler.

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  39. That’s a total non-sequitur.

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  40. I happened to stand next to Putin for a moment about a decade ago at an international meeting.

    He looked very fit and lean, with a sharp suit, but he is quite short. At least by world leader standards.

    If he ever goes mutter-a-mano against Merkel she might sit on him. On the other hand she is not the smartest fighter on the block and she might be having confidence problems. So there is that.

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  41. In Canada red is liberal, blue is Conservative (aka Tory)

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  42. Shows you can never know how tough someone is just by looking at him. Reminds me of an old friend of mine, funny looking, nerdy, avoided sports and cut gym class whenever he could. Those of us that knew him knew he was surprisingly strong and only looked scrawny because of his bad posture. He could have been pretty dangerous, if cornered.

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  43. “Trudeau insisted on having a cabinet that was 50/50 male/female. When asked why his entirely sensible response was “because it’s 2015.” ”

    Well, at least he didn’t say something trite like “that’s who we are as a people.” Or am I shortchanging Obama, and that sentence can only be used in it’s negative form?

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  44. Steve, How can you ignore Trump? Why won’t you seriously write about him? What is your deal with him? You make a tangential reference to him now and then but overall you’re ignoring the most important candidate vis-a-vis your views to ever come along. It’s absurd and you’re letting your readers down.

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  45. Interational Jew,

    My impression is that Canadian politics is less racially split along the left/right lines that in the states. So non whites are a bit more likely to be Tory than they would be to be Republican in the states.

    Justin Trudeau acted as if the whole match was a light hearted joke, but trained intensely. He may also have been helped by having a background in boxing while Brazeau’s is in Karate. On the night of the fight Brazeau went into the fight with an angry crowd behind him. After the fight no one from his own side wanted to know him. He ended up endorsing Trudeau in the last election.

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  46. blueballz came out hot and was gassed in a minute

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  47. Trump is no ideologue. He’s all gut. Much the same as his voters.

    Gutology?

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  48. I’d pay real money to see a Bernie v Hillary undercard…..Bern with his Bob Hope style giant boxing gloves and the waist of his shorts pulled to just under his man boobs. Hillary attired similarly but with the trunks stapled to the carapace and plastron of her scaly exoskeleton.

    Sweet science indeed!

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  49. If I box Hillary and then Sanders, and kick their asses, can I run for president? I’m willing to take them both on at the same time. The Canadian dollar has taken a worse beating since Justin “Have you seen a photo of my mom’s beaver?” became Canada’s Prime Minister. The Looney was valued at 65 cents last week, down from a robust $1.10 against the US dollar. Trudeau hammers a Aboriginal or First Nation Canadian and gets praise, can you imagine a US presidential candidate throttling a black and getting a pass?

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  50. ‘Heartiste’ once posted a video of him that showed him to be a tall but scrawny, extremely nerdy looking guy who could barely do a pushup. Gives a sense for why he’s in his 40s and still spewing invective at women on the internet.

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  51. Ed, a lot of Canada’s industry is US based. Their biggest businesses are banks and mining. The population fits well in a huge country that is to a large degree uninhabitable. Nice place to visit .

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  52. Maybe a Canadian reader could comment on this. And while you’re at it: was Trudeau known to have any boxing experience? It would be amazing for a first-timer to do that well against an avid amateur boxer and brawler.

    Trudeau issued the challenge because his people told him he was taller with better reach. That his opponent had gone to flab and probably would not train for the match. Trudeau hired a very good trainer and trained like crazy. My speculation how it went down.

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  53. Mr Sailer get out of my head! I was certain I was the only person who saw the similarities between Trump and Justin Trudeau. I’m even amazed you’re up to speed on Patrick Brazeau, who I know about because he’s from my small corner of Canada: this odd spot where we hybridized Irish, French and, in his case, Indian humans roam. People are right to say Justin is also like Obama. The Justin Trudeau phenomena is like Obama’s and Trump’s. Why do things always have to be A or B and never, ever A and B? Too many guys in the comments section here think like engineers perhaps.

    Trump is a vulgarian and he, Justin and Obama are all part of our collective “Idiocracy” culture but Trump is also something more. Trump is the man saying truths that have gone unspoken so long that we’re all about to burst. Everyone has been using the “elephant in the room” and “emperor’s new clothes” metaphors ad nauseam over the last decade and it’s only because they’ve been so apt. Now Trump is here to yell about indoor elephants and naked emperors from every platform available to him. People love it, myself included.

    Trump is the spell breaker, the earth shaker, the move maker. All praise be to Trump!

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  54. Hispanic Marine is asked “Do black lives matter?” before being assaulted and robbed a few blocks from the White House

    http://www.wusa9.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/02/17/decorate-marine-veteran-attacked-teens-mcdonalds/80492568/

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  55. Ganderson, Love college hockey and the NHL. Good college prospects hire fight instructors so they don’t get their asses kicked when they move up to the pros. Great college players who move up get protection from the team’s enforcer.

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  56. As a plaid-shirted, redneck Canadian nationalist, I should take umbrage at your cruel words and challenge you to a bake-off or a snow-angel contest in no-holds-barred Canuck fashion but, unfortunately, what you say is true. Our very own Sunny Boy Trudeau, he of the red shorts, declared to the world a few months back that Canada is now officially a “post-national state with no core values”, whatever that Orwellian concoction is. BC now stands for Becoming Chinese and there is even a prof at UBC who teaches that English is a white supremacist language and the Chinese are one of the founding people of our nation, make that post-nation. Ironically, any hope we have of salvaging our pre-post-nation may lie in the Quebec separatist movement and a revival and re-legitimization of ethnic nationalist sentiment. Quebeckers have traditionally not been as PC-whipped as Anglos but, unfortunately once again, even they are being swamped by French-speaking immigrants from Africa and the Caribbean. And I suppose that if ever the shit hits the fan in your low-boil three-way race war in the US, we’ll pick up all the Blacks and Hispanics who feel unloved down there and figure that the welfare and other government programs more than compensate for the cold and the snow. Toronto is already a self-declared sanctuary city and Vancouver is itching to become one, though I imagine they’ll only be unmulticulturally interested in Asian refugees. Oh Canada.

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  57. In reality, Canadians love punching each other in the head

    This is ironic, as disgraced Canadian radio host Jian Ghomeshi was just on trial here for allegedly punching his lovers in the head. It’s been everywhere in the news.

    Ghomeshi was known for being uber-progressive, so the lefties in the Canadian media have been in a quite a tizzy, especially when all three of the complainants basically collapsed on the witness stand, most of them being caught in blatant lies.

    Christie Blatchford at the National Post has done the best reporting on the trial.

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  58. Interesting that Brazeau is a conservative.

    His organization represented off-reserve Natives, whose interests are not always the same as on-reserve Natives. Plus, the Conservatives were in power, so it made sense to cozy up to them.

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  59. “Hit Somebody” is a great tune- co written by liberal puke Mitch Albom. BTW. Very little NHL fighting is done as a release valve. It’s mostly to get the crowd and /or team going. The game’s better without it. The NHL’s lack of negrosity is a plus – must be why it’s mostly ignored by the national sports media.

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  60. OT: Coalition of the Fringes fringing.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/02/17/decorated-marine-vet-attacked-robbed-at-washington-dc-mcdonalds-police-say.html

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  61. The Trump-Trudeau analogy does come up now and then in Canadian media. For example, this guy: http://looniepolitics.com/trudeau-cant-play-nice-guy-role-forever/

    It is becoming increasingly easy for progressive parties (such as Trudeau’s) to win elections simply by appealing to the deep desire we all possess to be considered fair and compassionate by our fellow man. Voting thus becomes an expression of optimism and open-mindedness, and a rejection of attitudes — though not necessarily policies — we find dour and distasteful. [...]

    While not a perfect analogy, Donald Trump is in many ways a sort of right-wing Trudeau, a man who doesn’t really understand politics in any sophisticated way, but knows how to appeal to an attitude that lies inside all of us — in Trump’s case, distrust for authority and suspicion of the unfamiliar.

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  62. That Trump vs McMahon video is great even if faked

    some funny comments at youtube:

    cant wait to see him to that to obongo on his way out“”

    ELECT THIS MAN IMMEDIATELY

    I heard Rush Limbaugh talking about the Trump yesterday; his analysis was very apt

    Rush says that Trump is appealing to blue collar whites not just with his policies but with his speech patterns and brash boisterous in-your-face Noo Yawk persona. By talking and behaving like a working glass joe sixpack white guy Trump is signalling that he is one of them or at least understands their concerns. The recent debate performance yelling and calling other candidates liars being prime examples of this. Rush says that since this group still represents some 40% of the population this can be a winning strategy.

    Made me realize that underneath the folksy nice guy manner Rush is a actually a very intelligent guy and that perhaps he’s been reading some of iSteve’s material

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  63. When I first heard it in 1961 in grade school that “went to the fights and a hockey game broke out” gag was already an old saw that my parents’ Depression/WWII generation had habituated. Rodney Dangerfield didn’t write it, but he sure got mileage out of it.

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  64. The new Trudeau will be as disastrous for Canada as the old one was.

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  65. The Conservatives in Quebec and the Maritimes have deep roots that crisscross or divide along religious and linguistic lines and not just racial ones, like they do now in parts of the US. Patrick Brazeau might come from a local “jobs for the boys” political tribe that goes back to the Brian Mulroney years or even the old Union Nationale. Canada has, or had, it’s own complicated political culture but all these subtle charms will have to go if we insist on becoming just another globalist economic zone, with our standard-issue mix of Chinamen, Somalis, Filipinos and LBGTers jabbering away in some new patois. At least it’s good for the economy and will prevent another Hitler from ever rising his ugly nationalistic head. Hey, Canada’s not a real county anyway, so who cares?

    “All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain” because the globalists up at the top of the Tyrell Corporation pyramid need us all to be good little, interchangeable Replicants with heads full of other people’s memories and passions.

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    It’s telling that Trudeau has an Indian motif tattoo as well as Brazeau. He’s the type that would think it tacky to get a fleur-de-lis or Maple Leaf – something that represents his own background.

    He is a very dumb overgrown child.

    It’s sad to see that someone like him is electable. I think we will be seeing airheads like him popping up all over the western world. This is what the schools seem to produce – and women demand this sort of effete, extreme leftism.

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  67. I’m lovin’ it too, kinda, but it feels so wrong.

    Also, I have to wonder… 14 years ago I was lovin’ a certain president named George (though I’d voted for Gore). “I’ve been misunderestimated”, “I don’t give a sh*t what the Europeans think”, “bring it on”, the way the “toxic Texan” bothered unreflective self-righteous people in need of a takedown… Being the only person in the room arguing for Bush and the invasion in Iraq was rather uncomfortable socially but felt like the right thing to do.

    Now I feel like a fool who should be disqualified from ever opining on politics ever ever again (but I can’t help having opinions all the same).

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  68. Trudeau has no hesitation to express his opinions about Trump.

    Trump should do a Merkel and ship millions of illegals and Syrian muslims from the US to Canada.

    The strategy could be called – “Lets Make the Great White North Brown Again!!”.

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  69. Trudeau is the worst sort of hippie moron.

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  70. Wiry guys are usually better at muscle recruitment than muscular types and also tend to have more hands-on experience.

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  71. I hadn’t realized how huge Jeb is until I saw him standing next to George W. this week. I wonder if Jeb was under pressure to play offensive lineman in high school. A complicated family, although not that interesting of a one …

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  72. From what I know, Trudeau did have competitive fighting sport experience as a young man. I believe he boxed a little, and I know he trained Judo at a very reputable club.

    Brazeau, for his part, grew up in a Native community and spent time in the Navy. He likely has some fighting experience in drunken brawls, but not much training. His fighting bears this out; lots of head hunting, but no gas tank.

    As much as I hate Trudeau, I have to admit that this was a feather in his hat, politically. People HATE weaklings, and even the smallest demonstration of athleticism can help a candidate. Contrast PM’s Shiny Pony’s boxing performance with Stephane Dion’s embarrassing hockey attempts….https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De5n_AFDbDs Unsurprisingly, Dion was a dead fish in the polls.

    This match is also a good example of a little fight training going a long way.

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  73. I’m sorry that truth and reality are “invective at women.”

    Do you still believe in Santa Claus, too?

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  74. a pretty-boy leader with no experience and no clue, seeing himself as the restorer of Trudeaupia – massive immigration of Muslim migrants

    He’s taking a centrist approach by European standards – 10,000 max, women, children and families only, no single men. As of last last month Canada was several thousand behind their goal. It’s not Trump, but it is certainly not Merkel either.

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  75. He’s huge and has a deep voice. It remarkable how he manages to present himself as such a wimp.

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  76. Did the strip club manager take a dive? (figuratively)

    Trudeau is from a highly political family. The other guy is just a hard-scrabble mook who goes by the paycheck. The family could have paid for the mook to make their son look good, realizing that, in today’s Kim Kardashian world, such an effect could springboard their son into politics much faster and higher than the old work-you-way-up-the-ladder-and-prove-your-worth system.

    Not completely unbelievable, considering the result.

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  77. That kind of shitlording by Trump would be epic. And would probably get Trudeau voted out, one way or another.

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  78. I’ve thought this too. In fact, Justin Trudeau is oddly hippie-like for someone from his and my generation. He seems to genuinely lack any of the sourness and cynicism everyone else got from growing up in the shadow of Pygmies. Baby Boomer hopes and dreams seem genuinely fresh and exciting to him. I have absolutely no idea how he pulls it off.

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  79. Rifleman, A little late, as Trudeau has already open the door to 25,000 Syrian refugees and seeking more. Trouble is while Canada has a lot of space, it has few major cities where refugees could find all they need. I see trouble ahead.

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  80. I have a sneaking desire to see an independent Quebec. It would have a salutary effect on the the US. The Bec’ers could make interesting cross border possibilities. If they could make a go of it, various regions in the US might feel a serious urge to do likewise. There is already an Indian cross border smuggling situation. If Quebec could make a go of it, various regions in the US might feel a serious urge to do likewise. The 19th Century saw a strong urge to preserve the Union in the US. Perhaps the 21st will see an equal urge by Americans to escape the Union ; a union of people who despise each other’s way of life. If Canada falls apart, useful and productive unions with the pieces may be possible.

    I read somewhere that the Maritimes can actually revert to the UK if Canada dissolves. Not sure if this is correct but I’m curious.

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  81. It would be better to say don’t take advice about how to deal with women from a guy who isn’t married. You want experience and wisdom, not theory.

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  82. Please explain to me how the decline from Prescott to GHWB to Jeb!/W to GeorgeP/Jenna etc is not interesting NOR a great example of “regression to the mean”.

    (And when you’re ready do to a post on the depth of GHWB’s machinations inside the Deep State, you just let me know. His “handlers” have done a great job obscuring his real legacy.)

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  83. Trump is no ideologue. He’s all gut. Much the same as his voters.

    This is what worries me about him. He’s an alpha. Nerds tend towards ideology, principles, sincere belief. Alphas, like women, say whatever they think is expected of them. They’re bored by logic and facts but are very socially aware. The nerdiest guy in the race is Cruz, and he’s very ideological. This is typical. I prefer Trump’s positions to Cruz’s positions, but I don’t know how serious Trump is about them.

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  84. Trump has this:

    … and what does the current ruling class have? Maybe Hanna Rosin needs to dial up the snark in her next article? Don’t these White guys know their day is done? I bet neither of them even has the decency to be gay. Disgusting.

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  85. Hodor.

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  86. Wouldn’t that be explained by his silver spoon?

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  87. ‘“All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain” because the globalists up at the top of the Tyrell Corporation pyramid need us all to be good little, interchangeable Replicants with heads full of other people’s memories and passions.’

    Flawless.

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  88. There was no decline from Prescott. Here he is on a Sunday chat show:

    http://youtu.be/vK1DJJhP29Y

    He beats W, but he wasn’t any smarter than GHW or Jeb. About as smart as the average modern congressman or governor, maybe slightly dimmer. Accent-wise he sounded vaguely southern, which is weird.

    How did the Bushes become such a dynasty? I once saw them described as the WASP Corleones. They’re more extended-family-oriented than is normal among northern Europeans.

    How did the old European royal families become established? By someone conquering a lot of land? Wrong. That’s not enough. Northern Europeans are nuclear-family-oriented, but politics is a team sport. The larger and more disciplined your team is, the more chances you have. Most of the conqueror types did not found lasting dynasties because they lacked the desire or the ability control who their kids married and what they did with their time. But, as with any trait, some are going to be more willing and able to do this than others.

    The Bushes aren’t much smarter than most people of their background. But they’re much more familial. That’s probably the key.

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  89. I saw that on Breitbart. Pure awesome.

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  90. If Canada wasn’t separated from the migrants by an ocean it would be swamped. The Liberals are saying that as many as 50,000 Syrians will be coming to Canada by the end of 2016. They will keep coming as long as the war continues and likely even after. The Liberals aren’t putting a ceiling on how many they will accept.

    The claim that no single men will be allowed was short lived, the government clarified their position and said that women, children and families will be fast tracked, but that single men will be welcome.

    The Syrians that are arriving can’t be accommodated quickly enough so some military bases are being converted to migrant camps and the soldiers being booted out of their homes and put in hotels.

    Also, the language requirements for citizenship are likely going to be relaxed which will increase the number of immigrant citizens that don’t need to speak either English or French.

    Unlike many other world leaders, Trudeau has not said that immigrants need to conform to the values and norms of their country of destination, because he claims everybody the world over has the same values and norms so by continuing their old world ways they are in fact being Canadian. It doesn’t make sense, but that’s Trudeau.

    One more thing, when Syrians arrive in Canada they are met with a makeshift mosque that has separate male and female areas to pray. Canada is a doormat.

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  91. Justin’s his father’s son. Combative chip off the old fearless block.

    There was definitely a bit of Trump bluster in the Old Man, especially with the press, as shown in the FLQ terrorist crisis:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfUq9b1XTa0

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  92. Richard Ben Cramer’s big book on the 1988 Presidential candidates makes the point that the Bush-Walker clan was super-competitive internally, with constant sports and games waged among cousins at a very high level of intensity. But it eventually emerged as clear within the extended family that George H.W. Bush was The Guy, the member of that generation who could go the furthest, so the clan’s resources coalesced behind him.

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  93. Western Canadian provinces have been exit candidates off and on for years. Plans include BC and Alberta, and maybe a Prairie Province or two, joining the Pacific Northwest as a new superstate or region. They chafed at being taxed to support crazy ideas emanating from Ottawa, including ceaseless tax support for the agony Aunt Maritimes. Quebec separatists got others thinking about their own destinies, and resource rich westerners had the relative luxury to do more than just ponder that over some beers and poutine. Nothing is likely to happen.

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  94. So, if Trump is in the WWF Hall o’ Fame, does that mean we’re getting President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho on an accelerated schedule … ?

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  95. http://rmitz.org/freebsd.daemon.html the classic tale of Texans upset

    Zero percent chance that this ever happened.

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  96. Yes his social circle would contain the kind of people who have felt the squeeze of vibrancy and tokenism the least. Even so, that wouldn’t have been enough on its own. Other Gen X silver spoon guys still find the law schools, External Affairs, the CBC, Telefilm Canada and the places that give out arts grants would rather give spots to persons of female, of colour, of gayness etc and so on. Justin himself would have been spared even that discomfort thanks to his famous name and Prince Charming looks. The Boomers doing the hiring and the handing out of grants would normally prefer a tinted “new Canadian” or female but they’d certainly make an exception to get a little bit of that Justin Trudeau magic to rub off on their institution.

    That’s likely why the affrimative action cabinet sounded like a really neat idea to Justin. I think most guys his age would not be as thrilled. Sure, another Gen Xer would quite happily and cynically play along with the scheme – as long as he did fine personally – but he wouldn’t be all starry-eyed and grinning like Justin. Another silver spoon Gen Xer would be all oily and full of humbug as he did it because he’d know it was just the latest in a long line of poses and gestures he’s made to play the game by the Boomers’ rules. See Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio for details.

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  97. YouTube also has his “playtime is over” speech in which he layed down the law on soft sovereignists in the Liberal Party in Quebec. It’s under the title “Finies les folies, déclare Trudeau”. Looking at it now it struck me how much he looks like Putin. Of course, out of the two, it was René Lévesque who was closer to Putin politically. Trudeau was the LSE internationalist and Lévesque the sovereigntist. My Dad always preferred Lévesque but was disgusted with the way the Anglos failed to stand up to his Bill 101. Anglo ethnic solidarity and some pocket change can get you a coffee. That’s one thing I learnt following politics around here.

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  98. Thanks for the clarification. I visit often and read the papers when doing so, but don’t live there. Earlier, the goal had been 10,000 but only 4,000 had made it in.

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  99. He’s huge and has a deep voice. It remarkable how he manages to present himself as such a wimp.

    Yes, I’ve noticed this as well. Jeb’s voice is excellent, deep and warm, and should be a huge asset for him — but somehow it’s not; he alternates between sounding halting and petulant. And his physical presence should also be an advantage, because he’s a tall man who’s also quite well-proportioned.

    You’d also think, as a younger son in his family, he’d have grown up quite scrappy and confident, after a childhood of trying to keep up with and compete against his older brother, but it doesn’t seem to have turned out that way.

    Jeb strikes me as a big man who was a big kid who was likely clumsy and self-conscious about it, and who’s been trying to diminish himself his whole life in order to fit in better.

    I’m two inches taller than Jeb, and went through much of my adolescence wishing I were more ‘normal’. Later on, though, I started to enjoy being tall and saw how it could be a positive. That feeling never seems to have kicked in for Jeb.

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  100. The clip from June, 1968. The night before a federal electon. In Montreal at Quebec’s “national” holiday parade. He stood his ground.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBARO8dZ8Oo

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  101. And of course, Trudeau not afraid to use intemperate language. “Fuddle Duddle” anyone. From 45 years ago. “Mouthing a four letter obscenity which I asked him to place on the record.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXKSGRyZtz8

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  102. Thomas, Quebec has a French cultural background while the rest of Canada reflects Britain . The language and even the signage in Quebec is French, not English. Are there any areas of the US that are that different from the rest of the country, separate language and culture? Quebec is a sizeable Province with a major port and two of Canada’s major cities, Quebec City and Montreal.

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  103. You can gain vast amounts of experience nowadays with women without marrying them.

    Which pretty much underscores a major reason not to marry them. Along with the anti-male divorce laws and paternity laws in the U.S. and the feminist-media making all men rapists by accusation alone. etc.

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  104. If Donald Trump ran an ad like this one from the Parti Quebecois in 1976 I can’t even imagine the outrage:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdF8TfYokmk

    Lyrics: “Beginning today, tomorrow belongs to us. Beginning today, if we really take hold of it”

    Voice Over: “Yes to Quebec’s team. People of action in the service of Quebecers and gathered around a real leader. We need a real government. The Quebec Party, the party of Quebecers”

    “… the American Party, the party of Americans.”

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  105. Muhry, wonder how plane loads of Syrian Muslims plays out in majority Catholic Montreal ?

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  106. Are you saying that Vitali Klitschko is doing a bad job as the mayor of Kiev?

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  107. His mother is a New Age-y dip. He got that side of his character from her. His father was a lefty too, but he was no flake.

    Justin may have got his flakiness from his mother, but, as noted by others here, he’s also got some of his father’s toughness and competitive nature. He’s an idiot, but he’s certainly no wilting violet.

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  108. My Dad always preferred Lévesque but was disgusted with the way the Anglos failed to stand up to his Bill 101.

    The Quebec “Anglo” community was split between old stock Anglo-Saxons who were not too adversely affected by Quebec language laws, initially at least, due to to being a somewhat protected historical community (I’m thinking more about education here than petty language sign laws) and the descendants of later settled Anglophones (Jews, Italians, Greeks, and other non-white “New Canadians”). I remember the resentment of some of the later (ie late 80s early 90s) English language activists like Howard Galganov towards the old stock Anglos who supposedly didn’t stand with them.

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  109. Say what you want about Pierre Trudeau he was a really smart guy. Justin might be smarter than what he lets on but he comes across as being more like his mother’s than his father’s son.

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  110. I think he took a few too many punches for it to be a fix. If I were going to throw a fight, I’d do it early and say it was a lucky punch. On the other hand Trudeau throws girly arm punches so maybe it didn’t matter to the other guy. Honestly, though, I think Brazeau just legitimately ran out of steam.

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  111. Well the “Anglo Saxon” establishment in Quebec was quite Scottish and more than a little Irish but I know who you mean. You’re right about Montreal Jews being some of the most vocal opponents of the PQ and Bill 101 but there were many, many more ordinary middle class Anglos, just as ethnically British as the Westmount crowd, who had to head off to Ontario because of the new language laws. Anglo, WASPy types seem to feel that it’s every man for himself when this sort of thing happens. Maybe it’s the Calvinism that makes them like that? Anglos are really good at leaving each other to fend for themselves when the wind changes.

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  112. You take this alpha beta stuff way too seriously. That’s a very omega thing to do. Look, as far as ideology vs blood goes, we can look at libertarians. They’re ideological as hell. What good has that done them? All their ideologies have been turned against them. 99.99% of libertarians are white males and they support open border and free trade policies that dispossess and weaken the only segment of the population from which future libertarians can come. They have to choose between common sense and liberty above all else, and they choose liberty because they are in an ideological straight jacket. How could they still call themselves libertarians if they allowed sanity to triumph over sanity? The only thing that matters is blood, faith and soil. Trump knows that and you need to figure it out quick.

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    Montreal is post-Catholic. It’s very similar to France in this regard.

    Also, it already has a large population of Muslims from former French Colonies. Quebec operates it’s own immigration program, independent of Canada, and their biggest concern seems to be French language fluency.

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  114. Nonsense. Justin punches like a girl. There is no weight behind those punches; no torsion between the hips and shoulders. Those are all arm punches. The other guy is just a muscle head with no cardio who gassed badly. They’re both too old for this and Brazeau looks like he’s got a lot more mileage on him and has lived a lot harder.

    Props to princess rockstar anyway. That took balls.

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  115. Justine Trudeau was quoted as saying: ‘‘There is no core identity, no mainstream in Canada. There are shared values — openness, respect, compassion, willingness to work hard, to be there for each other, to search for equality and justice. Those qualities are what make us the first postnational state.’’

    Those are the kind of words spoken by the leader of a dying country. He may not see it this way, but in his attempt, sincere or otherwise, to seem humane, he has actually reduced people to little more than interchangeable units of production.

    There are cultures with a much more red-blooded sense of who they are as a people. Those people will migrate to Canada, and they will displace the eunuchs dumb enough to believe as Trudeau does.

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  116. Looking at it now it struck me how much he looks like Putin. Of course, out of the two, it was René Lévesque who was closer to Putin politically.

    I’ve never noticed before but he did look a bit like Putin. And don’t get me going about René Lévesque!

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  117. I thought that it was the general opinion in Canada thet Justin was probably the biological offspring of either Ted Kennedy or Ronnie Wood (yes, the Rolling Stones Ron Wood.)

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  118. Quebec’s debt is one third of all the debt in Canada. They want all the trappings of “independence” but none of the obligations. The resource rich western provinces have something to gain from bailing out of supporting Quebec, and the Maritimes; they would be glad to see both of them go.

    The Canadian dollar was in the 90s versus USD in 2014. It got hammered by the drop in commodity prices, but was in the 70s last summer. It dropped 2 cents the day after Boy Trudeau got elected.

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  119. Quebec operates it’s own immigration program, independent of Canada, and their biggest concern seems to be French language fluency.

    True, but may be changing outside of Montreal.

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  120. It seems every time an official in the immigration ministry talks they say something different from before. However, it’s always in the direction of more Syrians.

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  121. 99.99% of libertarians are white males and they support open border and free trade policies that dispossess and weaken the only segment of the population from which future libertarians can come. They have to choose between common sense and liberty above all else, and they choose liberty because they are in an ideological straight jacket. How could they still call themselves libertarians if they allowed sanity to triumph over sanity? The only thing that matters is blood, faith and soil.

    That was me, years ago. I left libtyland for essentially those reasons, but I was not able to articulate them until about ten years ago. This site and many others have been bedrock and enabled me to go from a visceral malaise to having the intellectual ammunition to first understand the issue and then to explain it to others

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  122. I think the book you are referring to is actually called THE PATRIOT GAME published in 1986.

    BTW, “courageous” Pierre Trudeau took a pass on serving in WW2.

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  123. As you say, Quebec separation opens up interesting possibilities and now that Anglos are seriously intent on selling the farm, Quebec independence is justified as never before. Unfortunately, the recent crop of separatist leaders have been an embarrassingly inept lot, particularly cowed by the Western taboo on mentioning anything immigrationny or referring to racial and ethnic distinctions, unlike the average Quebecker. But things are changing on that score right across the West. So there are reasons to hope but still too few grounds for optimism.
    I am no constitutional scholar but I doubt seriously that the Maritime Provinces could revert to the British crown under the present federal arrangement. Anyway, how wise is it these days to want to become British and get yourself Rotherhamed?

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  124. Most of the third world ethnics let in by the liberals since 1967 have settled in what was once called English Canada. This was by design to create liberal voting blocks in what was generally Tory (conservative) voter-land. A great little book detailing this was IMMIGRATION; THE DESTRUCTION OF ENGLISH CANADA.

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  125. The French Canadians are certainly not like that.

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  126. It was historically much easier for the Anglos to just “flee” to Ontario and points west. Montreal is already almost on the Ontario border. In any case the old Anglo community in Quebec-Montreal always had a very high turnover as young people left to go to Toronto, Ottawa and points west (also south to the USA) and were replaced by new arrivals. Bill 101 curtailed the new arrivals part. It demanded all new arrivals had to be educated in French schools only.

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  127. And they are down now to just 20% of the total Canadian population, from their historical 30%. Ironically enough caused by the very immigration they so largely enabled elsewhere in Canada by their historic, traditional support of the federal Liberal party.

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  128. There has long been a problem with Canadians and their identity which has most famously manifested as Canadians defining themselves in relation to their socialist medical care system. What does it mean to be Canadian? Why our health care system of course.

    It’s not surprising that fear of “old stock” Canadian identity would lead to disavowals like this.

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  129. Related to the tough old codger theme in Prime Ministers, who can forget Chretien’s Shawinigan Handshake:

    Shawinigan Handshake is the epithet given to a chokehold executed on February 15, 1996 by Jean Chrétien, then Prime Minister of Canada, on anti-poverty protester Bill Clennett. . . .

    As Chrétien addressed the assembled crowd, anti-poverty activists heckled the Prime Minister over proposed changes to Canada’s unemployment insurance program, and, as he made his way to his limousine at the cessation of the ceremonies, Chrétien was confronted by Clennett. At that moment, Chrétien grabbed Clennett by the back of the neck and chin, forcing Clennett to the ground and breaking one of his teeth.

    Now imagine if Trump had taken someone to the ground and broken one of his teeth. I suspect that there would be a different level of tolerance applied.

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  130. Actually the first “post-national state” was the old Habsburg ‘empire’ of Austria-Hungary. It fell apart after WW1. So too did two of its successor states – Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia.

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  131. To add to what anonymous mentioned, Montreal has a neighborhood called Little Maghreb. Don’t know how big it is, but Muslims make up 10% of Montreal’s population.

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  132. Chicks dig bad boys like Trudeau (père et fils).

    A Truth that Trump knows (viscerally) as well.

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  133. http://rmitz.org/freebsd.daemon.html the classic tale of Texans upset

    Zero percent chance that this ever happened.

    Based on incidents I have personally witnessed in rural Texas, I’d say it’s somewhat plausible.

    I once witnessed a fairly brutal parking lot fight over a disagreement over whether it was Willie Nelson or Merle Haggard “what wrote” the song, ‘Pancho and Lefty’. (Answer: neither.) And I had to do some fast talking to avoid getting into a scrap (which I would have lost, unless I pulled the pocket pistol I was packing mostly for snakes) over a request I made for a clown to move a trailer so I could get out of a scale lane at one of those pathetic excuses for a truck stop they have there. He was incensed because he had his daughter (in her teens) there and I had a shirt that said “B-J Erection” and he thought that was damn inappropriate to be seen by the womenfolk. Naturally, the shirt was from a steel erection company-that is they put up steel buildings and towers and such. I only wore it because it was the last clean shirt in the truck.

    Not all Texans are dumb, but the dumb Texans are the dumbest and the meanest.

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  134. …the classic tale of Texans upset by a cartoon devil.

    A few humorless types pressured Devils Lake High School in North Dakota to abandon their unique nickname, the Satans.

    Now there was a helluva mascot!

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  135. I had a shirt that said “B-J Erection”

    “Hooked on a Feeling” was somewhat controversial for its title and theme, but I don’t remember anyone offended by the name B. J. Thomas.

    On the other hand (pardon the expression), the often misheard Swedish cover had a lot of Americans thinking of mutual masturbation.

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  136. Chicks dig bad boys like Trudeau (père et fils).

    A Truth that Trump knows (viscerally) as well.

    Tell us when it shows up in the polls.

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  137. If WNs had any brain they would use liberal language, like whites need safe spaces to survive as a culture and people, and as a compromise maybe they will consider quintoons and 1/8 Asians as legally white. Some of the WNs with the largest amount of followers on Twitter are actually female like Whittest Rabbit (4600 followers), Lady Aodh and Lara Loktoff (9000 followers, or twice as many as Amren and Steve).

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  138. Quebecers were, shall we say, under-represented in those who fought in WW2.

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    It may have to do with Mr. Sailer’s observations some months back that included pictures of Mr. Trump and Mr. Clinton golfing together. Don’t you remember? That’s OK, few others do, either.

    I suspect that Mr. Sailer doesn’t want to alienate you and his other readers. But neither does he want to join a foolish parade that already has plenty of majorettes, even here, like Ms. Mercer.

    In any event, he has better things to do with his time and considerable talents.

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  140. Quebeckers have always resisted fighting in what they call “English” wars. And Pierre used to ride a motorcycle around dressed as a semi-Nazi. During the war. That may not be your idea of courage, but it certainly does sound provocative.

    In any case, I take it you disagree with Peter Brimelow’s assessment of Pierre’s courage, and discount all of the many examples Brimelow cites in support of his claim.

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  141. Obama’s HLS degree, phony or not, absolutely trumps Trudeau’s literature/education degrees, phony or not.

    What I like about Snow Mexico is that I can visit Paris or Hong Kong without even leaving the continent!

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  142. Quebecois don’t seem to care about what happens outside their province. They themselves continue to show very strong ethnic pride, lack of PC, etc. Their downfall has not been self-denigration (as in the Anglo world) but secularization leading to very low birth rates.

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  143. Actually the first “post-national state” was the old Habsburg ‘empire’ of Austria-Hungary

    Austria-Hungary was rather a conservative pre-national state. Nationalism was a populist reaction against the old order, which was “internationalist” – yet based not on leftist universalism but on tradition, aristocracy, the Church.

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  144. Dumbest & meanest? You’ve obviously never been to South Boston.

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  145. Pierre was on the side of Petain after the fall of France, right?

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  146. Jeb has major issues. Big, tall, deep-voiced guy from a connected family. Wealthy and courted by the powerful. Marries his hotel-room maid. Has low-g, doofus kids. Constantly looks like his mom chastised him for something.

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  147. NC wins the thread. We are at the beginning of a sea change: Anglo-Americans adopting the identity politics of their ethnic rivals.

    Libertarianism is a philosophy of Anglo-Celt frontier capitalists. But we’ve run out of frontier, and the country has gone from 12% to 40% non-Anglo-Celt. We don’t do well under these conditions, so we withdraw and, on the margins, shut down. Then along comes Donald Trump and ignites that tribal spark buried under all the ennui, cynicism and general risk aversion. American whites are waking up, and realizing the struggle is not ideological but existential.

    It’s not really about the rule of law, inalienable rights, and all those other Lockean principles that your average redneck feels deep in his bones but which are incomprehensible or are mocked and cynically manipulated by high-g foreigners. It’s not about Principles; it’s about People–who gets to live where and run the institutions–and always has been.

    The Age of Ideology is over.

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  148. Along these lines, the “Springtime of Nations”:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutions_of_1848

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  149. True dat- still don’t much care for that aspect of the game- I like hitting, not fighting.
    And as I posted below very little fighting flows organically from the play. It’s fake- not the actual fighting, but the motivations for the fights. I’d guess the number of ‘real’ fights is not much different than other major sports. See ya ’round the rink!

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  150. Yes, Quebecers seem happier and more comfortable with themselves than Anglo Canadians and Anglosphericals generally. They’re not constantly walking on eggshells or angrily lashing out at the people who insist everyone must walk on eggshells. Gavin McInnes is an Anglo Canadian of the second variety and every other Anglo Canadian you’ve ever heard of belongs to the first category.

    It’s so funny to switch on the radio dial from the English-language CBC to the French-language Radio-Canada and hear the vast difference in mood and interests; a vast gap that exists between the them even though they broadcast from the same building. It really is a funny thing to see these two tribes occupy almost the same physical space and yet live very different lives. Like I wrote earlier, it’s sad that Justin and the other globalists assume we can still have all this and still be the new home to whoever else shows up.

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  151. The French-Canadians were like the Irish when it came to these imperial wars. In retrospect I’d have say they had a point; especially about the Boer War and WWI.

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  152. Anonimous, in my junk drawer is my brass ID tag that I got when I worked for Bethlehem Steel Erection. At 70 I wish for those days.

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  153. I think Pierre Trudeau was one of the absolute worst things to ever happen to Canada. His bilingualism “solution” to Canada’s linguistic dysfunctionality was an absolute disaster in my view.

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  154. They will “care” when their province’s share of the seats in the house of commons falls to such a low level that majority governments can be elected without any support from Quebec at all. This was historically just about impossible but is becoming increasingly likely now.

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  155. Essentially the English and French-speaking cultures in Canada do not interact at all. Note how that although both branches operate from the same building no major personality works in both languages. They are TWO SOLITUDES indeed. This famous saying was used to describe Anglos and Franco’s in just Montreal alone. Recently a major English language newspaper in Canada had an article about ‘famous’ Quebecois personalities. They were all household names in Quebec. Neither me or my friends had ever heard of any of them.

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  156. The tiny number of people in Canada who grow up speaking both French and English without accents can have spectacular government and political careers, such as Trudeau, Mulroney, and Trudeau.

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  157. I think Pierre Trudeau was one of the absolute worst things to ever happen to Canada.

    To the entire West, to be more precise. No one had ever heard the word “multiculturalism” before he came along.

    Peter Brimelow contends that all major bad political ideas today have their origin in Canada.

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  158. …spectacular government and political careers, such as Trudeau, Mulroney, and Trudeau.

    I’d call them TruMulTruous.