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From Politico:

If the House comes down to California, get ready to wait

California’s voting rules could mean key races don’t get decided for days — or weeks.

By KEVIN YAMAMURA 11/05/2018 05:09 AM EST

… The California slow-vote-count scenario means that if the balance in the House is close, the entire country may have to wait to know whether Democrats take back the chamber. … Two years ago, [Darrell] Issa’s narrow win wasn’t declared until the Monday after Thanksgiving, nearly three weeks after Election Day.

As I explained last June, California, the home of Silicon Valley, counts votes slower than Third World countries like Paraguay.

Of course, countries like Paraguay don’t have mail ballots coming in by slow boat and migrant caravan from Honduras, Guatelombia, the Galapagos Islands, the Kerguelen Islands, Transnistria, Abbottabad, Abkhazia, Azkaban, Raqqa, Narnia, and The Republic of Pirates.

Nor do these Third World countries have to provide, by legislation or court order, ballots in English, Spanish, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Armenian, Navajo, Persian, Arabic, Syriac, Panjabi, Punjabi, Hmong, Mixtec, Esperanto, Hittite, Proto-Indo-European, Klingon, Linear B, Linear A, !San Clickspeak, Shavian Alphabet, Incan Knot Lingo, Runic, Voynich Manuscript, Semaphore, Canary Islands Whistle Speech, The Analytical Language of John Wilkins, American Sign Language, Thieves’ Argot, Pig Latin, Smoke Signals, Ouija Board, Enigma Encryption, Turing Machine, General Semantics, System Basic, Cityspeak, Telepathy, Dolphin, Assembler, COBOL, Coco Sign Language, HTML, PDF, Graffiti, Gang Signs, Tattoos, SMS, Bitcoin, and Emoji, plus certain languages spoken only by individual pairs of identical twins.

 
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  1. • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    Democrats ought to be angry at all the new voters they've imported. Why are they all moving to California? Ungrateful!
    , @Detective Club
    The reason this might happen in some CDs is because Blacks vote Donkey 90% and sometimes 95%. Hispanics & Asians vote 70% for the Jackass Party. Whites vote GOP 60% at most, outside the South. Blacks inadvertently helped Trump in 2016 by not showing up. Black turnout was down by almost 6% in 2016. White turnout was up 2.2% in 2016. Dr. Christine Blasey-Ford wants deranged White women to vote early & often today. Judge Roy Moore was a "mall perv" and lost in Alabama. Senator Bob Menendez of NJ, who frequented 14-yr. old prostitutes overseas, will coast to re-election today in THE GARDEN STATE!
    , @bomag

    I don't think people are ready for the crisis that will follow...
     
    Klein and crew have been prepping us all for just such a "crisis".
    , @nebulafox
    Punchable face. Seriously punchable face.

    They all have one over at Vox. Is that a job requirement there?
    , @Barnard
    Anyone who uses the term "House popular vote" should be driven from the public square. If this is some sort of complaint about Gerrymandering, Ezra should just come out and admit he wants to get rid of majority minority Congressional Districts. That will go over well with the coalition of the fringes.
    , @Buck
    "the party is on the edge of losing faith in the system (and reasonably so)."

    Uh, no. It's not reasonable if you don't understand the system in the first place. Ezra Klein is like one of those idiotic sports fans who claim their team got "robbed" because they don't understand the rules of the game. Sports have rulebooks and referees. Our system has a Constitution, laws and judges.

    As laid out in the Constitution, every House seat is won by popular vote in individual districts. Sure, Wyoming is overrepresented win their one statewide district. But so is California with their illegal immigrant population (maybe they should only apportioned at 3/5ths?)
    , @Jack D

    I don't think people are ready for the crisis that will follow if Democrats win the House popular vote but not the majority.
     
    , said no human being, ever. This has happened before without causing a crisis (1996, 2010) and will happen again.

    "House popular vote" is a statistical artifact that has no Constitutional relevance whatsoever. If Democrats and blacks all cluster together in big cities where they win by big margins, they are going to run up their popular vote total without getting any extra seats for it. It's like any other sport - if you win the baseball game 12-1 or 7-6, a win is a win and it doesn't create a "crisis" if the team at the top of the standings has a lot of 1 run victories while #2 has a lot of 10 run victories but has won fewer games overall.

    The popular vote nonsense is just preemptive sour grapes if the Dems don't manage to take control of the House.
    , @Dieter Kief
    Just in case Klein's dark vision gets real - here's another small reason, why it might have happened: German business donations in these elections were leaning pro-Trump:

    https://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/plus183312766/Midterms-Die-spendabelsten-deutschen-Trump-Helfer.html
    , @Sarah Toga

    After Kavanaugh, Trump, Garland, Citizens United, Bush v. Gore, etc, the party is on the edge of losing faith in the system
     
    Still with the Bush v. Gore??
    Oy vey!!
    Everybody knows Gore lost because he did not carry his "home" state of Tennessee and its 11 Electoral Votes.
    What a loser.
    Can Al Gore even find the place using Google maps?
    , @theo the kraut
    https://twitter.com/schubert_albert/status/1060015065670270976
  2. An amazing stat, if true: 1/3 of voting age black males in KY are convicted felons and therefore cannot vote — sorry, but I refuse to regard this as my or America’s problem — and the media will spin this in a way that hinders people from drawing the most relevant conclusions/asking the most pertinent questions, eg ‘What kind of a country would it be if it were full of black men?’ — same as some years ago when it was mooted that more young black men were incarcerated than attending university.

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas
    It's no wonder Democrats find Voter ID requirements onerous if they find . . . shuffles papers . . . not getting convicted of a felony a substantial burden to the franchise.
    , @Pericles
    "1 in 4 black adults in the state — and 1 in 3 black men — can't vote"

    1 in 3 black men are convicted felons, wow. If my math does not fail me, looks like 1 in 6 black women are felons too.
    , @res

    An amazing stat, if true: 1/3 of voting age black males in KY are convicted felons and therefore cannot vote
     
    I took a quick look. This 2006 paper goes into some detail: http://www.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/73_1_5_0.pdf

    This excerpt makes me think we can't trust the headline stat, but I would be interested in a more thorough look.

    Kentucky’s actual disenfranchised population remains a dark figure. Clearly, felons in prison, probation, or parole cannot vote, and such numbers can be determined with considerable specificity. However, it is unclear precisely how many felon ex-supervisees are in the state, have had their voting rights restored, have died, and/or left the state. Kentucky maintains no official disenfranchisement statistics.
     
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Preparing the list of excuses in case the Dems falter...Felons and ex-felons excluded from voting. Check.
    , @ThreeCranes
    Two hours ago, down here in the Sunshine State, I inked the box that selects not to restore the vote to convicted felons.

    I had second thoughts because you can be found guilty of a felony for e.g. throwing a cream pie in a politician's face--and what red-blooded American would fault you for that? But I reckoned that for every pie thrower there are a lot more murderers and rapists I'd rather not see voting.

    , @International Jew
    If the Dems succeed at giving the vote to ex-cons, they'll push to give the vote to current prisoners too. It'll be the next "civil rights" crusade.
    , @Mark F.
    Once you have served your time, you should have your rights restored - including the right to vote.
    , @Olorin
    So are they saying that Michael Bloomberg and Nick Hanauer and the other anti-gun billionaires who are working/investing to turn law abiding white gun owners into felons via a bunch of niggling new regulation that can be enforced at whim and will for political reasons in order to bar white voters (the most gun-owning segment of the population) from voting because of felony convictions...

    ...are wasting their money?

    Have you seen anyone analyzing how many white men with felony convictions would have their voting restored via the above means?
    , @Ron Unz

    An amazing stat, if true: 1/3 of voting age black males in KY are convicted felons and therefore cannot vote
     
    Actually, it's really not so remarkable. Back a few years ago, The Sentencing Project, a liberal organization, estimated that *nationwide* roughly one-third of all black males are already convicted criminals by their 20s.

    Furthermore, I pointed out that the Census data indicates that that over one-quarter of adult black males in our three largest black population centers of New York City, Chicago, and Philadelphia are already dead or in prison:

    http://www.unz.com/runz/race-and-crime-in-america/#p_1_24
    , @eah
    https://twitter.com/JunoTycer/status/1060016910346186752
  3. You neglected Andamanese Steve. Try and be more sensitive.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • LOL: bomag
    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    What about Rotarians?
    , @Reg Cæsar

    You neglected Andamanese Steve. Try and be more sensitive.
     
    Aren't they Sentinelese now?
  4. All we need now is to programme the ballot machines in Befunge.

    • LOL: Harold
  5. @eah
    An amazing stat, if true: 1/3 of voting age black males in KY are convicted felons and therefore cannot vote -- sorry, but I refuse to regard this as my or America's problem -- and the media will spin this in a way that hinders people from drawing the most relevant conclusions/asking the most pertinent questions, eg 'What kind of a country would it be if it were full of black men?' -- same as some years ago when it was mooted that more young black men were incarcerated than attending university.

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1059283120200077314

    It’s no wonder Democrats find Voter ID requirements onerous if they find . . . shuffles papers . . . not getting convicted of a felony a substantial burden to the franchise.

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
  6. @eah
    https://twitter.com/ezraklein/status/1059553661586567168

    Democrats ought to be angry at all the new voters they’ve imported. Why are they all moving to California? Ungrateful!

    • Replies: @Alice in Wonderland

    Democrats ought to be angry at all the new voters they’ve imported. Why are they all moving to California? Ungrateful!

     

    they have to move to California to be close to those who love them.
  7. On election night in 1960, Kennedy was ahead by about 10,000 votes in California. Two weeks later, absentee ballots declared Nixon the winner in California by more than 30,000 votes.

  8. And their multiplication tables.

    Democratic vote x 2.

    Republican vote x .2.

    Math!

  9. What about the Wakandans?

    • Replies: @John Cunningham
    "WE IS KANGZZZZ"
  10. Gov. moonbeam! get some motor coaches to Mexico there’s still time for the caravan to vote!

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    'Gov. moonbeam! get some motor coaches to Mexico there’s still time for the caravan to vote!'

    Don't encourage him. He'd do it.
    , @dwb
    The funny thing is, Moonbeam is now the voice of reason out here.

    When the unctuous Gavin Newsom (no relation to the guy who released "The Gavin Belson signature box") elides his way into the governor's chair, Jerry Brown is going to look like Ronald Reagan.
  11. OT

    Richard Dawkins: “Orange man bad

    @RichardDawkins

    Dear US voters, don’t blame Dems for the excesses of the overzealous left. Those deplatformings, safe spaces, gender politics & Islamophilia are just silly. Trump is more than silly, he’s a seriously bad man: a liar, a dangerously unstable, bullying denier of scientific facts.

    • Replies: @Detective Club
    What is a scientific fact? That the Third World shall inherit Europe and North America?
    , @Clyde
    Thanks Dawk but I'll try my luck with Trump.

    Those deplatformings, safe spaces, gender politics & Islamophilia are just silly.
     
    But you would vote Democrap anyway. Vote anti-Trump anyway.
    , @Colin Wright
    '...Trump is more than silly, he’s a seriously bad man: a liar, a dangerously unstable, bullying denier of scientific facts.'

    Yeah -- but ya gotta consider the alternative.
    , @tyrone
    Hey Dawkins are the "men" grooming English girls bad men too??? why don't you say something about it you chicken shit bastard and keep your foreign nose out of our business.
    , @Intelligent Dasein
    Dawkins:

    Trump is more than silly, he’s a seriously bad man: a liar, a dangerously unstable, bullying denier of scientific facts.
     
    But isn't he just being that way because the bullies and bad boys and unperdictable ADHD hunks got all the hot chicks in Olduvai Gorge? Let's have some consistency here, Mr. Selfish Gene.
    , @Jack D

    a seriously bad [person]: a liar, a dangerously unstable
     
    While Hillary Clinton, OTOH, is

    a seriously bad [person]: a liar, a dangerously unstable...

    It's not like we had a choice between Trump and Thomas Jefferson.
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    I wonder if Dawkins' "Letter To Clark County" is still online?

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/oct/13/uselections2004.usa13

    It actually reads better now than it did then - he was right about Iraq. But what kind of educated idiot compares invading Iraq with shooting a home-invading burglar - something all right-minded people would agree with?

    OT, it seems that the UK child-grooming epidemic may have jumped to the (Irish?) traveller community.


    "Four men used two 15-year-old care home girls as a "sexual resource for their own gratification", a court heard. The girls were picked up from the home near Wrexham, taken to hotels and given alcohol between December 2011 and April 2012, jurors at Mold Crown Court heard. John Delaney, 33, denies rape, trafficking in the UK for sexual exploitation and sexual assault. John Purcell, 31, and Todd Wickens, 28, deny rape and trafficking charges. John McGrath, 27, denies rape. The court was told the four men, who are all members of the travelling community, face a total of 19 charges between them.

    The prosecution have alleged they would collect young girls from a children's home which was near a caravan site. "
     

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-46108961

    Also OT, LA Times publishes editorial endorsing a Senate candidate.

    English edition endorses Diane Feinstein.

    Spanish edition endorses Kevin de Leon !

    http://www.latinorebels.com/2018/10/31/latimesendorsements/


    The English version of the LA Times suggests you re-elect U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein because she comes from a more “civil and productive era of governance” and has accomplished a great deal like that. The editorial casts doubt on the effectiveness of her challenger, state senator Kevin de León who seems “unwilling to compromise.”

    LA Times en Español, however, has a different take. According to its editorial, de León is the best choice because he seems pragmatic and effective enough and knows the immigrant community best. And, after all, “Dianne Feinstein has been in the Senate since 1992” and that’s “too long. A generational change is needed.”

    LA Times in English thinks Steve Poizner is the best guy for Insurance Commissioner because he did a good job in the same position between 2007-2011 and the other candidate, Ricardo Lara, “lacks experience with insurance regulation.”

    But LA Times en Español wants you to back state Senator Ricardo Lara because he has “a strong commitment in defense of the consumer and his crusade in favor of universal health care reflects a passion for the most vulnerable.”

    LA Times English supports LA sheriff Jim McDonnell. LA Times en Español wants you to elect Alex Villanueva. The other endorsements are the same, except two ballot initiatives: Proposition 3, a water bond is a big NO for English speakers, but a YES for Spanish speakers. Proposition 7 about permanent Daylights Savings Time is a YES for English and a NO for Spanish (figure that one out for me, please).
     

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    Richard Dawkins, the Babu of the internet:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN29X2HCKpU
    , @The preferred nomenclature is...
    Why is that man (using that term very broadly here) taken as a serious thinker?
    , @Prof. Woland
    The last time I heard Richard Dawkins, Islamophilia, and being de platformed mentioned together was when KPFA abruptly cancelled a live radio show he was scheduled to do because of statements he had made about Islam. The way it happened would be comedic if it were not so real. Apparently his constant put downs of Christianity is ok but talking smack about the other two monotheistic religions is taboo (we know that). Once he was labeled "racist" and his comments about Islam were considered "hate speech" he became radioactive and was banished. Most people at KPFA probably agree with him but are as afraid of the mob they have helped to whip us as the rest of the left is in spite of all their bravado about "free speech". Free speech is dead on the left.

    https://kpfa.org/blog/statement-decision-cancel-richard-dawkins-event/

    , @Forbes
    Let me get this straight. Dems are silly, but Trump is more than silly. Okaaaay.

    If Trump's a seriously bad man--conduct so obvious--why do Dems pound the table so...
    , @obwandiyag
    This "Science" word is funny. Sometimes you imbeciles are all for it, and abusive of anybody who is skeptical of the all-knowing omniscience of this "Science" thing, whatever they mean by it, expecially when it "proves" one of your most atavistic prejudices.

    And then sometimes you are all against it, like in this instance, when some goofy English atheist liberal scientist champions it.

    You aren't even hypocrites. You are too stupid to know when you contradict yourselves.
  12. • Replies: @The Man From K Street
    "consumer boycotts, regulatory action, pressure on creatives, etc"

    MattY might do well to remember that the last time such a strategy was organized, deployed and effective (Hays Code/Legion of Decency), "progressives" thought it was Literally Hitler.
    , @Lugash
    Notice how he doesn't suggest something like a general strike. That would be too disruptive to corporate America.
    , @donut
    "Regulatory action" like de platforming or banning conservative sites and accounts ?
    , @ZeroDay
    "Pressure on creatives" should read "dox and blacklist conservative gentile creatives."
    , @Forbes
    Progressives need a strategy...because one local network affiliate had two news segments featuring notable people on the Right--and we can't have that in America!
  13. @eah
    https://twitter.com/ezraklein/status/1059553661586567168

    The reason this might happen in some CDs is because Blacks vote Donkey 90% and sometimes 95%. Hispanics & Asians vote 70% for the Jackass Party. Whites vote GOP 60% at most, outside the South. Blacks inadvertently helped Trump in 2016 by not showing up. Black turnout was down by almost 6% in 2016. White turnout was up 2.2% in 2016. Dr. Christine Blasey-Ford wants deranged White women to vote early & often today. Judge Roy Moore was a “mall perv” and lost in Alabama. Senator Bob Menendez of NJ, who frequented 14-yr. old prostitutes overseas, will coast to re-election today in THE GARDEN STATE!

  14. @Hippopotamusdrome
    OT

    Richard Dawkins: "Orange man bad"


    @RichardDawkins

    Dear US voters, don’t blame Dems for the excesses of the overzealous left. Those deplatformings, safe spaces, gender politics & Islamophilia are just silly. Trump is more than silly, he’s a seriously bad man: a liar, a dangerously unstable, bullying denier of scientific facts.

     

    What is a scientific fact? That the Third World shall inherit Europe and North America?

  15. @eah
    https://twitter.com/ezraklein/status/1059553661586567168

    I don’t think people are ready for the crisis that will follow…

    Klein and crew have been prepping us all for just such a “crisis”.

  16. You forgot Sindarin, Quenya, and Finnegans Wake.

    But actually it’s best they be excluded; after all, we don’t to structurally give an institutional platform to Literate Privilege.

  17. @eah
    https://twitter.com/ezraklein/status/1059553661586567168

    Punchable face. Seriously punchable face.

    They all have one over at Vox. Is that a job requirement there?

    • Replies: @Lurker
    "His face is a fist magnet" is a variant I heard recently.

    I immediately thought of Justin Trudeau.

  18. @Momus
    What about the Wakandans?

    “WE IS KANGZZZZ”

  19. Early interstellar ballots are coming in through Goldstone.

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Holden McGroin III
    Four more light-years!
    , @El Dato
    You know that Aliens suggest you vote Far Right!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Ngqhe3y-Y
  20. @Buzz Mohawk
    Early interstellar ballots are coming in through Goldstone.

    http://78.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdlefozeEx1qf8cm7o1_500.png

    https://www.desertusa.com/desert-california/goldstone_images/cassini_3.jpg

    Four more light-years!

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Heh! x 2
  21. OT – NYT explains how AfD voters in Germany are poor incels, unlike Merkel’s “dynamic, determined and driven“(see Cologne for details) New Germans.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/05/world/europe/merkel-east-germany-nationalists-populism.html

    “After the wall came down, the East lost more than 10 percent of its population. Two-thirds of those who left and did not come back were young women.

    It was the most extreme case of female flight in Europe, said Reiner Klingholz, director of the Berlin Institute for Population and Development, who has studied the phenomenon. Only the Arctic Circle and a few islands off the coast of Turkey suffer comparable male-female imbalances.

    In large swaths of rural eastern Germany, men today still outnumber women, and the regions where the women disappeared map almost exactly onto the regions that vote for the Alternative for Germany today.

    “There is a gender element to the rise of the far right that is not sufficiently acknowledged and studied,” Mr. Klingholz said.”

    • Replies: @Escher

    In large swaths of rural eastern Germany, men today still outnumber women, and the regions where the women disappeared map almost exactly onto the regions that vote for the Alternative for Germany today.
     
    Understandable that they don’t want more males competing for the same pool of females.
    , @Altai
    When non-whites are poor and demoralised. "That's awful, they must be taught more confidence, it's not their fault, society should change for them."
    When whites feel demoralised and alienated. "HAHA, losers!"
    , @athEIst
    a few islands off the coast of Turkey

    ? Lesbos?

    a few islands off the coast of Turkey ? Seems unlikely
    , @Forbes

    In large swaths of rural eastern Germany, men today still outnumber women
     
    And China? What's the demographic bulge? 20-30 million more males?

    Different cause, same outcome...
  22. @Hippopotamusdrome
    OT

    Richard Dawkins: "Orange man bad"


    @RichardDawkins

    Dear US voters, don’t blame Dems for the excesses of the overzealous left. Those deplatformings, safe spaces, gender politics & Islamophilia are just silly. Trump is more than silly, he’s a seriously bad man: a liar, a dangerously unstable, bullying denier of scientific facts.

     

    Thanks Dawk but I’ll try my luck with Trump.

    Those deplatformings, safe spaces, gender politics & Islamophilia are just silly.

    But you would vote Democrap anyway. Vote anti-Trump anyway.

  23. @eah
    https://twitter.com/ezraklein/status/1059553661586567168

    Anyone who uses the term “House popular vote” should be driven from the public square. If this is some sort of complaint about Gerrymandering, Ezra should just come out and admit he wants to get rid of majority minority Congressional Districts. That will go over well with the coalition of the fringes.

  24. Others have commented before on the correlation between liberal run districts and vote tally snafus. Then there are ballot initiatives that clutter a ballot meant to elect candidates to fill federal offices.

    I notice whenever a federal judge is asked to keep pollls open it is in an area where blacks are voting. My guess it owes much to the lengthy ballot and low IQ voter who vote party line getting confused by all the amendments and propositions special interest groups put on GENERAL election ballots.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Unit, Cities don't get any more dysfunctional than Detroit, and according to the Detroit Free Press 47% of the adult black population is "functionally illiterate." Meaning that they can't read things like a menu, a bus scheduled, a job application and by my extension, a ballot.
    , @Forbes
    My optical scanner-read paper ballot was four sided--both sides of two sheets longer than 8-1/2" X 14" legal paper size, with tiny print--probably 8 pt font for everything except the candidates name, which looked 14 pt.

    Extremely problematic for the elderly, or anyone without a magnifying glass...
  25. Canary Islands whistle speech sounds charming.

  26. The GOP was wiped out in California because of the 1965 Immigration Act and the 1986 amnesty for illegal alien invaders.

    I asked Jebby Bush about California and immigration at a presidential primary town hall in 2015.

    I was distracted by a baby boomer Jebby Bush supporter while I was asking the question, but I managed to get the basic parts of my question through. This baby boomer bastard started talking right in my ear and I mistakenly said Ted Cruz’s name twice, and in the wrong manner.

    That kind of stuff happens at presidential primary town halls, and it was my fault to allow it to somewhat bungle my question.

    Portions of my question and mini-speech to Jebby Bush:

    We know out in California the GOP has been pretty much wiped out statewide because of the 1965 Immigration Act and the 1986 amnesty for illegal alien invaders.

    Other people within the Republican Party are going to the Jeff Sessions idea which is to reduce immigration to boost wages.

    How do you think your message is going to sell knowing what we know about California’s example of getting wiped out because of mass immigration?

    Bush responded by deflecting the question about California and by saying he wants more aspirational immigrants in the United States.

    California Question on GOP and Immigration at 48:45 in video:

    Tweet from 2015:

    • Replies: @cynthia curran
    Actually, I thought the Korean Young Kim and Mimi Walters had defeated the Democratics but then I read they still 400,000 voted in count in Orange County. Our problem is the upper Midwest states are still going back and forth between the Republicans. Michigan tht wenf for the Dems for governor and senate on election day.. Texas is still more Republican than Ohio, but on the other hand, Cruz only beat O'Rourke by 3 percent. You would think that this was a result for Michigan and not Texas.
  27. I thought I would know who controls The House on Wednesday. That this would be over and done. Now due to chaos done on purpose in California. To massage votes in tight races. It looks like there will be pressure on officials in California House districts to falsify election results in the Dems favor.

  28. @eah
    https://twitter.com/ezraklein/status/1059553661586567168

    “the party is on the edge of losing faith in the system (and reasonably so).”

    Uh, no. It’s not reasonable if you don’t understand the system in the first place. Ezra Klein is like one of those idiotic sports fans who claim their team got “robbed” because they don’t understand the rules of the game. Sports have rulebooks and referees. Our system has a Constitution, laws and judges.

    As laid out in the Constitution, every House seat is won by popular vote in individual districts. Sure, Wyoming is overrepresented win their one statewide district. But so is California with their illegal immigrant population (maybe they should only apportioned at 3/5ths?)

    • Replies: @BB753
    I can't think of any civilized country where illegals can vote. It's a ripoff! And a shame upon America.
  29. This day is call’d the feast of Crispian.
    He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
    Will stand a tip-toe when this day is nam’d,
    And rouse him at the name of Crispian.
    He that shall live this day, and see old age,
    Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
    And say “To-morrow is Saint Crispian.”
    Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars,
    And say “These wounds I had on Crispin’s day.”
    Old men forget; yet all shall be forgot,
    But he’ll remember, with advantages,
    What feats he did that day.

    - Henry V

    Over the top, Deplorables. This one will come down to attrition.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUEDz1H5gJs&frags=pl%2Cwn

    • Replies: @Carol
    Is that one of ours or one of theirs?
  30. Mass Immigration And Illegal Immigration Are Killing California

    Housing Costs In California Are Exploding Higher Because Of Mass Immigration And Monetary Extremism

    Sailer and New York Times Look At California:

    Tweets from 2014:

  31. @t
    https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1059605251760754689

    “consumer boycotts, regulatory action, pressure on creatives, etc”

    MattY might do well to remember that the last time such a strategy was organized, deployed and effective (Hays Code/Legion of Decency), “progressives” thought it was Literally Hitler.

  32. @BenKenobi
    This day is call'd the feast of Crispian.
    He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
    Will stand a tip-toe when this day is nam'd,
    And rouse him at the name of Crispian.
    He that shall live this day, and see old age,
    Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
    And say "To-morrow is Saint Crispian."
    Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars,
    And say "These wounds I had on Crispin's day."
    Old men forget; yet all shall be forgot,
    But he'll remember, with advantages,
    What feats he did that day.

    - Henry V

    Over the top, Deplorables. This one will come down to attrition.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUEDz1H5gJs&frags=pl%2Cwn

    Is that one of ours or one of theirs?

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    all TrumpWave is very much ours.
  33. @nebulafox
    Punchable face. Seriously punchable face.

    They all have one over at Vox. Is that a job requirement there?

    “His face is a fist magnet” is a variant I heard recently.

    I immediately thought of Justin Trudeau.

    • Replies: @Inquiring Mind
    You consider Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to have a punchable face?

    Your remark is deeply offensive to all persons with intellectual disabilities.
  34. @t
    https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1059605251760754689

    Notice how he doesn’t suggest something like a general strike. That would be too disruptive to corporate America.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    What the hell good would a general strike by progressives do? Most of them don't have productive jobs. It'll just backfire. OMG, the diversity coordinator is on strike today! What to do? What to do?

    Maybe you know better though, as you are, after all, Lugash.
    , @Lot
    Lefttards have tried doing general strikes for years, it never works.
  35. @Buck
    "the party is on the edge of losing faith in the system (and reasonably so)."

    Uh, no. It's not reasonable if you don't understand the system in the first place. Ezra Klein is like one of those idiotic sports fans who claim their team got "robbed" because they don't understand the rules of the game. Sports have rulebooks and referees. Our system has a Constitution, laws and judges.

    As laid out in the Constitution, every House seat is won by popular vote in individual districts. Sure, Wyoming is overrepresented win their one statewide district. But so is California with their illegal immigrant population (maybe they should only apportioned at 3/5ths?)

    I can’t think of any civilized country where illegals can vote. It’s a ripoff! And a shame upon America.

  36. Slow vote counts allow progressive election officials the time they need to find boxes of phony ballots in abandoned station wagons.

  37. @YetAnotherAnon
    OT - NYT explains how AfD voters in Germany are poor incels, unlike Merkel's "dynamic, determined and driven"(see Cologne for details) New Germans.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/05/world/europe/merkel-east-germany-nationalists-populism.html

    "After the wall came down, the East lost more than 10 percent of its population. Two-thirds of those who left and did not come back were young women.

    It was the most extreme case of female flight in Europe, said Reiner Klingholz, director of the Berlin Institute for Population and Development, who has studied the phenomenon. Only the Arctic Circle and a few islands off the coast of Turkey suffer comparable male-female imbalances.

    In large swaths of rural eastern Germany, men today still outnumber women, and the regions where the women disappeared map almost exactly onto the regions that vote for the Alternative for Germany today.

    “There is a gender element to the rise of the far right that is not sufficiently acknowledged and studied,” Mr. Klingholz said."
     

    In large swaths of rural eastern Germany, men today still outnumber women, and the regions where the women disappeared map almost exactly onto the regions that vote for the Alternative for Germany today.

    Understandable that they don’t want more males competing for the same pool of females.

  38. OT but what’s with TV ad that was too “racist” even for Fox? Every news outlet is talking about it this morning, but I can’t find the ad itself. Must have been a doozy…

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    'OT but what’s with TV ad that was too “racist” even for Fox? Every news outlet is talking about it this morning, but I can’t find the ad itself. Must have been a doozy…'

    It is getting to be a bit of a mystery.

    It'll probably be like the 'white nationalists vandalizing synagogues' stories. The truth will be decidedly anti-climatic, but it'll show up later and be downplayed.
    , @Jack D
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQJx64cUFb8

    The ad consists almost entirely of actual news footage so they can't call it "false" but apparently showing certain news footage is "racist" nowadays.
    , @Desiderius
    As usual, they’re just routing traffic to the Sailersphere and giving Trump unearned bad ass cred.
    , @Bubba
    It was no more offensive than their ads for constipation, intestinal gas, adult diapers, vaginal yeast infections, tampons, hemorrhoids, erectile dysfunction, herpes, etc...
  39. @tyrone
    Gov. moonbeam! get some motor coaches to Mexico there's still time for the caravan to vote!

    ‘Gov. moonbeam! get some motor coaches to Mexico there’s still time for the caravan to vote!’

    Don’t encourage him. He’d do it.

  40. @International Jew
    OT but what's with TV ad that was too "racist" even for Fox? Every news outlet is talking about it this morning, but I can't find the ad itself. Must have been a doozy...

    ‘OT but what’s with TV ad that was too “racist” even for Fox? Every news outlet is talking about it this morning, but I can’t find the ad itself. Must have been a doozy…’

    It is getting to be a bit of a mystery.

    It’ll probably be like the ‘white nationalists vandalizing synagogues’ stories. The truth will be decidedly anti-climatic, but it’ll show up later and be downplayed.

  41. @eah
    https://twitter.com/ezraklein/status/1059553661586567168

    I don’t think people are ready for the crisis that will follow if Democrats win the House popular vote but not the majority.

    , said no human being, ever. This has happened before without causing a crisis (1996, 2010) and will happen again.

    “House popular vote” is a statistical artifact that has no Constitutional relevance whatsoever. If Democrats and blacks all cluster together in big cities where they win by big margins, they are going to run up their popular vote total without getting any extra seats for it. It’s like any other sport – if you win the baseball game 12-1 or 7-6, a win is a win and it doesn’t create a “crisis” if the team at the top of the standings has a lot of 1 run victories while #2 has a lot of 10 run victories but has won fewer games overall.

    The popular vote nonsense is just preemptive sour grapes if the Dems don’t manage to take control of the House.

    • Replies: @res

    The popular vote nonsense is just preemptive sour grapes if the Dems don’t manage to take control of the House.
     
    Agreed.

    I am curious about how the “House popular vote” compares to the seat balance over the years (it also would be interesting to compare to popular/electoral votes for president). Raw data back to 1920 is available in PDFs (one for each election) at https://history.house.gov/Institution/Election-Statistics/Election-Statistics/

    Wikipedia has extracted the data for individual elections. For example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections,_2016#Results_summary
    Does anyone know if the data is available with all elections grouped together?

    It is interesting to observe how large the popular vote change was in 2016 (R -2.1%, D + 2.5%) while only producing a +/- 6 seats each swing.
    , @International Jew
    The "popular vote" for the House has been a thing for at least a couple election cycles now. I listen to NPR in my car, so I know. (The local conservative drive-time talk radio is more to my taste but they play too many ads.)

    To be fair, the GOP benefits from "rotten boroughs" too. I'm thinking of the California districts (some of which we're about to lose today) in the Central Valley.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    “House popular vote” is a statistical artifact that has no Constitutional relevance whatsoever
     
    Particularly as many candidates run unopposed.

    And it's also a statistical artifact in the presidential election, as well. States have different qualifications for voting, so it's illegitimate to combine their votes, even for mere analysis.
    , @ScarletNumber
    The New York Yankees outscored the Houston Astros 22-20 in the 2017 ALCS. Therefore they should have played in the World Series that year.

    ---

    In New Jersey the two biggest Gerrymandered districts are 8 and 10. Eight is represented by Albio Sires, a fat Cuban man who won 77-19 in 2016. Ten is represented by Donald Payne Jr, a fat black man who won 86-12 in 2016.

    Winning by a landslide still only entitles you to 1 seat.
    , @Clyde

    The popular vote nonsense is just preemptive sour grapes if the Dems don’t manage to take control of the House.
     
    They will b!tch and moan about this the same way they complained about Trump losing by three million votes or so. Trump lost by about the same amount in California, so really the Dems wasted their time piling up a higher winning margin in California. Hillary campaigned often in California at high priced fund raisers.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    “House popular vote” is a statistical artifact that has no Constitutional relevance whatsoever.
     
    Just like the "presidential popular vote". States decide who is qualified to vote (you can count the constitutional restrictions to that on one hand), and they decide differently. So combining votes, even if only for analysis, is inherently suspect.

    Don't forget, too, that in many House races, the incumbent runs unopposed. So the "popular vote" would be as distorted as it was in the 1860 presidential election.
  42. @Hippopotamusdrome
    OT

    Richard Dawkins: "Orange man bad"


    @RichardDawkins

    Dear US voters, don’t blame Dems for the excesses of the overzealous left. Those deplatformings, safe spaces, gender politics & Islamophilia are just silly. Trump is more than silly, he’s a seriously bad man: a liar, a dangerously unstable, bullying denier of scientific facts.

     

    ‘…Trump is more than silly, he’s a seriously bad man: a liar, a dangerously unstable, bullying denier of scientific facts.’

    Yeah — but ya gotta consider the alternative.

  43. @International Jew
    OT but what's with TV ad that was too "racist" even for Fox? Every news outlet is talking about it this morning, but I can't find the ad itself. Must have been a doozy...

    The ad consists almost entirely of actual news footage so they can’t call it “false” but apparently showing certain news footage is “racist” nowadays.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    The liberal daily podcast Pez dispenser response to this ad seems to be that Joe Arpaio is responsible for releasing the star of the ad:

    http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2018/11/02/joe-arpaio-luis-bracamontes/

    If Buzzfeed or Vox are up for more investigations of Republican grandstanding lawmen who dump psycho Mexican thugs on the Flyover counties I'd wholeheartedly support that

    , @International Jew
    Thanks. I'm surprised Fox pulled that ad. I've seen most of it, here and there, on Fox's own news shows. "Racist" now means "persuasive".
  44. @International Jew
    OT but what's with TV ad that was too "racist" even for Fox? Every news outlet is talking about it this morning, but I can't find the ad itself. Must have been a doozy...

    As usual, they’re just routing traffic to the Sailersphere and giving Trump unearned bad ass cred.

  45. @eah
    An amazing stat, if true: 1/3 of voting age black males in KY are convicted felons and therefore cannot vote -- sorry, but I refuse to regard this as my or America's problem -- and the media will spin this in a way that hinders people from drawing the most relevant conclusions/asking the most pertinent questions, eg 'What kind of a country would it be if it were full of black men?' -- same as some years ago when it was mooted that more young black men were incarcerated than attending university.

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1059283120200077314

    “1 in 4 black adults in the state — and 1 in 3 black men — can’t vote”

    1 in 3 black men are convicted felons, wow. If my math does not fail me, looks like 1 in 6 black women are felons too.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Pericles, In Illinois, and especially Cook County, a lot of felonies are pleaded down to misdemeanors. It's the new Woke in the justice system.
    , @istevefan

    1 in 3 black men are convicted felons, wow. If my math does not fail me, looks like 1 in 6 black women are felons too.
     
    This would also dispel the notion that 99 percent of blacks are law-abiding angels.
  46. @eah
    An amazing stat, if true: 1/3 of voting age black males in KY are convicted felons and therefore cannot vote -- sorry, but I refuse to regard this as my or America's problem -- and the media will spin this in a way that hinders people from drawing the most relevant conclusions/asking the most pertinent questions, eg 'What kind of a country would it be if it were full of black men?' -- same as some years ago when it was mooted that more young black men were incarcerated than attending university.

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1059283120200077314

    An amazing stat, if true: 1/3 of voting age black males in KY are convicted felons and therefore cannot vote

    I took a quick look. This 2006 paper goes into some detail: http://www.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/73_1_5_0.pdf

    This excerpt makes me think we can’t trust the headline stat, but I would be interested in a more thorough look.

    Kentucky’s actual disenfranchised population remains a dark figure. Clearly, felons in prison, probation, or parole cannot vote, and such numbers can be determined with considerable specificity. However, it is unclear precisely how many felon ex-supervisees are in the state, have had their voting rights restored, have died, and/or left the state. Kentucky maintains no official disenfranchisement statistics.

  47. @t
    https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1059605251760754689

    “Regulatory action” like de platforming or banning conservative sites and accounts ?

  48. @Hippopotamusdrome
    OT

    Richard Dawkins: "Orange man bad"


    @RichardDawkins

    Dear US voters, don’t blame Dems for the excesses of the overzealous left. Those deplatformings, safe spaces, gender politics & Islamophilia are just silly. Trump is more than silly, he’s a seriously bad man: a liar, a dangerously unstable, bullying denier of scientific facts.

     

    Hey Dawkins are the “men” grooming English girls bad men too??? why don’t you say something about it you chicken shit bastard and keep your foreign nose out of our business.

  49. @Jack D

    I don't think people are ready for the crisis that will follow if Democrats win the House popular vote but not the majority.
     
    , said no human being, ever. This has happened before without causing a crisis (1996, 2010) and will happen again.

    "House popular vote" is a statistical artifact that has no Constitutional relevance whatsoever. If Democrats and blacks all cluster together in big cities where they win by big margins, they are going to run up their popular vote total without getting any extra seats for it. It's like any other sport - if you win the baseball game 12-1 or 7-6, a win is a win and it doesn't create a "crisis" if the team at the top of the standings has a lot of 1 run victories while #2 has a lot of 10 run victories but has won fewer games overall.

    The popular vote nonsense is just preemptive sour grapes if the Dems don't manage to take control of the House.

    The popular vote nonsense is just preemptive sour grapes if the Dems don’t manage to take control of the House.

    Agreed.

    I am curious about how the “House popular vote” compares to the seat balance over the years (it also would be interesting to compare to popular/electoral votes for president). Raw data back to 1920 is available in PDFs (one for each election) at https://history.house.gov/Institution/Election-Statistics/Election-Statistics/

    Wikipedia has extracted the data for individual elections. For example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections,_2016#Results_summary
    Does anyone know if the data is available with all elections grouped together?

    It is interesting to observe how large the popular vote change was in 2016 (R -2.1%, D + 2.5%) while only producing a +/- 6 seats each swing.

  50. @Hippopotamusdrome
    OT

    Richard Dawkins: "Orange man bad"


    @RichardDawkins

    Dear US voters, don’t blame Dems for the excesses of the overzealous left. Those deplatformings, safe spaces, gender politics & Islamophilia are just silly. Trump is more than silly, he’s a seriously bad man: a liar, a dangerously unstable, bullying denier of scientific facts.

     

    Dawkins:

    Trump is more than silly, he’s a seriously bad man: a liar, a dangerously unstable, bullying denier of scientific facts.

    But isn’t he just being that way because the bullies and bad boys and unperdictable ADHD hunks got all the hot chicks in Olduvai Gorge? Let’s have some consistency here, Mr. Selfish Gene.

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
    One of your best comments. Bravo.
  51. Anonymous[245] • Disclaimer says:

    You joke about ballots printed in Linear A(?), but every post office in CA has a giant wall of vote registration posters comprising a dozen languages. It is not unusual to see the other non-electoral signs translated into Chinese script too (they do love their mail time).

    Also when I applied to the Cal State system it asked me what language was spoken at my home and I picked Old Church Slavonic.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    I picked Old Church Slavonic.
     
    Good on ya', #245! I like f__ing with the their system, and I like people who do that.
    , @Lot
    Do you use the cyrillic, arabic, latin, or glagolitic script when speaking OC Slavonic?

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/86/Glagolitsa_in_Zagreb_cathedral.jpg/1280px-Glagolitsa_in_Zagreb_cathedral.jpg

    Croatian Serbs seem to have the dialect closest to OCS.
  52. We are lucky that the Japanese gave up on invading the West:

    • Replies: @L Woods
    Are we though?
    , @Reg Cæsar

    We are lucky that the Japanese gave up on invading the West:
     
    But only because we're not worth it anymore.

    It would be like the Civil War-- the "winners" really are the losers.
    , @El Dato
    I avoided watching this because I suspected the movei was about Nazis (but the blurb made me think someone grabbed William Gibson's "Pattern Recognition" to flesh the story out) whereas PKD's book is about Reality, common or personal.

    But that looks actually pretty cool.

    Although big-gun warships in the age of helicopters is anachronistic.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    We are lucky that the Japanese gave up on invading the West:
     
    No, they are lucky.

    They would probably lose. But an even worse outcome for them is possible-- they might win.

    Good luck occupying Oakland.
    , @donut
    LOL . The Japs and the Brits resorted to Incendiary balloons .
  53. Anonymous[245] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQJx64cUFb8

    The ad consists almost entirely of actual news footage so they can't call it "false" but apparently showing certain news footage is "racist" nowadays.

    The liberal daily podcast Pez dispenser response to this ad seems to be that Joe Arpaio is responsible for releasing the star of the ad:

    http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2018/11/02/joe-arpaio-luis-bracamontes/

    If Buzzfeed or Vox are up for more investigations of Republican grandstanding lawmen who dump psycho Mexican thugs on the Flyover counties I’d wholeheartedly support that

  54. “the real America”

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
    Witness a man in the act of devouring himself from the tail up. What sheer nonsense. What can he mean?
    , @istevefan
    Do you notice how the democrats conveniently ignore the nonwhite voter when bragging that their party is better educated?

    Assuming white democrats have on average a higher level of education than white republicans, certainly one cannot make that assumption about the overwhelming majority of black and hispanic voters, i.e. the democratic base. If anything those voters are among the least educated group in America. And given their rather large proportion of the democratic vote, they most certainly would have to bring the overall democratic education average down.

    Yet whites like Krugman conveniently ignore this and go on about how republicans are less educated. However, in the same tweet Krugman asserts that democrats are also the majority of the country. That might be true, but only because of those uneducated hordes that he conveniently leaves out of the discussion about educational attainment.
    , @Altai
    The 'real America', that didn't come into existence until the 1980s. Feels weird how America became a superpower 40 years before it existed, but economists are used to understanding the absurd.
    , @eah
    Yet another 'cohencidence'.

    https://twitter.com/EliLake/status/1059801932137721858

    https://i.postimg.cc/HLxzDCKW/elilake.jpg
    , @Anonymous
    Notice how this "Real America" argument only goes one way: rural white areas aren't the "real America" because their racial demographics aren't representative, but Detroit, Dearborn, East LA, and Hawaii are even less representative of America's racial demographics but the media would never accuse these places of not being the "real America".
    , @Anonymous
    His follow up tweet is vintage Kruggers:

    Wyoming has <600K people, 86% white, 24% with Bachelors degrees. New Jersey has 9 million people, 58% white, 35% with Bachelors. Each is electing one senator.
     
    Quelle horreur! These guys aren't even hiding it anymore.
  55. @Jack D
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQJx64cUFb8

    The ad consists almost entirely of actual news footage so they can't call it "false" but apparently showing certain news footage is "racist" nowadays.

    Thanks. I’m surprised Fox pulled that ad. I’ve seen most of it, here and there, on Fox’s own news shows. “Racist” now means “persuasive”.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Ad sales are controlled by the business side - they are more concerned with their bottom line than with freedom of the press. They want a quiet life and will take the path of least resistance - easier to sell ads for prescription drugs or something.
  56. @Jack D

    I don't think people are ready for the crisis that will follow if Democrats win the House popular vote but not the majority.
     
    , said no human being, ever. This has happened before without causing a crisis (1996, 2010) and will happen again.

    "House popular vote" is a statistical artifact that has no Constitutional relevance whatsoever. If Democrats and blacks all cluster together in big cities where they win by big margins, they are going to run up their popular vote total without getting any extra seats for it. It's like any other sport - if you win the baseball game 12-1 or 7-6, a win is a win and it doesn't create a "crisis" if the team at the top of the standings has a lot of 1 run victories while #2 has a lot of 10 run victories but has won fewer games overall.

    The popular vote nonsense is just preemptive sour grapes if the Dems don't manage to take control of the House.

    The “popular vote” for the House has been a thing for at least a couple election cycles now. I listen to NPR in my car, so I know. (The local conservative drive-time talk radio is more to my taste but they play too many ads.)

    To be fair, the GOP benefits from “rotten boroughs” too. I’m thinking of the California districts (some of which we’re about to lose today) in the Central Valley.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    A lot of overwhelmingly Democrat districts are the result of Republican gerrymandering in the state legislatures. You stick all the Democrat voters in your states big cit(ies) into their own overwhelmingly Democrat districts and then all the other districts become competitive for the Republicans.

    The PA Supreme Ct overturned the PA scheme and designed a "fair" map of its own (to me a shocking abuse of judicial power) and the result is going to be the loss of several R seats. For example, my Super Zip suburban township which leans D was formerly attached to a safely D black district in West Philadelphia (our Congressman got set to jail for corruption). Now it is attached to a suburban district that is almost certainly going to go Democrat partly as a result. The sitting Republican Congressman from the old gerrymandered district resigned due to a sexual harassment scandal. He used government funds to pay her off and kept the settlement confidential but it came out. The level of corruption in PA government in both parties is shocking. The only safe thing seems to be to elect really rich guys so that they don't need to steal from the government to maintain their lifestyle.
  57. @proton
    You neglected Andamanese Steve. Try and be more sensitive.

    What about Rotarians?

  58. Hey Steve, you forgot Klingonese–Moonbeam’s native lingo.

  59. @International Jew
    Thanks. I'm surprised Fox pulled that ad. I've seen most of it, here and there, on Fox's own news shows. "Racist" now means "persuasive".

    Ad sales are controlled by the business side – they are more concerned with their bottom line than with freedom of the press. They want a quiet life and will take the path of least resistance – easier to sell ads for prescription drugs or something.

  60. @International Jew
    The "popular vote" for the House has been a thing for at least a couple election cycles now. I listen to NPR in my car, so I know. (The local conservative drive-time talk radio is more to my taste but they play too many ads.)

    To be fair, the GOP benefits from "rotten boroughs" too. I'm thinking of the California districts (some of which we're about to lose today) in the Central Valley.

    A lot of overwhelmingly Democrat districts are the result of Republican gerrymandering in the state legislatures. You stick all the Democrat voters in your states big cit(ies) into their own overwhelmingly Democrat districts and then all the other districts become competitive for the Republicans.

    The PA Supreme Ct overturned the PA scheme and designed a “fair” map of its own (to me a shocking abuse of judicial power) and the result is going to be the loss of several R seats. For example, my Super Zip suburban township which leans D was formerly attached to a safely D black district in West Philadelphia (our Congressman got set to jail for corruption). Now it is attached to a suburban district that is almost certainly going to go Democrat partly as a result. The sitting Republican Congressman from the old gerrymandered district resigned due to a sexual harassment scandal. He used government funds to pay her off and kept the settlement confidential but it came out. The level of corruption in PA government in both parties is shocking. The only safe thing seems to be to elect really rich guys so that they don’t need to steal from the government to maintain their lifestyle.

    • Replies: @istevefan

    A lot of overwhelmingly Democrat districts are the result of Republican gerrymandering in the state legislatures.
     
    I hear this a lot as though the GOP is the only one gerrymandering districts. Don't the democrats do the same in states they control? If not, why not?
    , @donut
    I've lived in 14 states the rottenest were Louisiana , Rhode Island , Massachusetts and Maryland .
  61. @eah
    An amazing stat, if true: 1/3 of voting age black males in KY are convicted felons and therefore cannot vote -- sorry, but I refuse to regard this as my or America's problem -- and the media will spin this in a way that hinders people from drawing the most relevant conclusions/asking the most pertinent questions, eg 'What kind of a country would it be if it were full of black men?' -- same as some years ago when it was mooted that more young black men were incarcerated than attending university.

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1059283120200077314

    Preparing the list of excuses in case the Dems falter…Felons and ex-felons excluded from voting. Check.

  62. @jim jones
    We are lucky that the Japanese gave up on invading the West:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhdQtwZDkGs

    Are we though?

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson II

    Are we though?
     
    Bataan Death March ring any bells for you?
  63. @Unit472
    Others have commented before on the correlation between liberal run districts and vote tally snafus. Then there are ballot initiatives that clutter a ballot meant to elect candidates to fill federal offices.

    I notice whenever a federal judge is asked to keep pollls open it is in an area where blacks are voting. My guess it owes much to the lengthy ballot and low IQ voter who vote party line getting confused by all the amendments and propositions special interest groups put on GENERAL election ballots.

    Unit, Cities don’t get any more dysfunctional than Detroit, and according to the Detroit Free Press 47% of the adult black population is “functionally illiterate.” Meaning that they can’t read things like a menu, a bus scheduled, a job application and by my extension, a ballot.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    They can usually read enough to find the candidates with (D) next to their names or flip the D lever (maybe with a little help from their local Democrat committeemen - a prefilled sample ballot, etc.) Although judging by the Florida Gore ballots, even that was too much to ask in many cases.
  64. @Hippopotamusdrome
    OT

    Richard Dawkins: "Orange man bad"


    @RichardDawkins

    Dear US voters, don’t blame Dems for the excesses of the overzealous left. Those deplatformings, safe spaces, gender politics & Islamophilia are just silly. Trump is more than silly, he’s a seriously bad man: a liar, a dangerously unstable, bullying denier of scientific facts.

     

    a seriously bad [person]: a liar, a dangerously unstable

    While Hillary Clinton, OTOH, is

    a seriously bad [person]: a liar, a dangerously unstable…

    It’s not like we had a choice between Trump and Thomas Jefferson.

    • Agree: dwb, Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Dtbb
    If Jefferson ran today as a democrat I wouldn't vote for him. Washington neither.
  65. @Hippopotamusdrome
    OT

    Richard Dawkins: "Orange man bad"


    @RichardDawkins

    Dear US voters, don’t blame Dems for the excesses of the overzealous left. Those deplatformings, safe spaces, gender politics & Islamophilia are just silly. Trump is more than silly, he’s a seriously bad man: a liar, a dangerously unstable, bullying denier of scientific facts.

     

    I wonder if Dawkins’ “Letter To Clark County” is still online?

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/oct/13/uselections2004.usa13

    It actually reads better now than it did then – he was right about Iraq. But what kind of educated idiot compares invading Iraq with shooting a home-invading burglar – something all right-minded people would agree with?

    OT, it seems that the UK child-grooming epidemic may have jumped to the (Irish?) traveller community.

    “Four men used two 15-year-old care home girls as a “sexual resource for their own gratification”, a court heard. The girls were picked up from the home near Wrexham, taken to hotels and given alcohol between December 2011 and April 2012, jurors at Mold Crown Court heard. John Delaney, 33, denies rape, trafficking in the UK for sexual exploitation and sexual assault. John Purcell, 31, and Todd Wickens, 28, deny rape and trafficking charges. John McGrath, 27, denies rape. The court was told the four men, who are all members of the travelling community, face a total of 19 charges between them.

    The prosecution have alleged they would collect young girls from a children’s home which was near a caravan site. “

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-46108961

    Also OT, LA Times publishes editorial endorsing a Senate candidate.

    English edition endorses Diane Feinstein.

    Spanish edition endorses Kevin de Leon !

    http://www.latinorebels.com/2018/10/31/latimesendorsements/

    The English version of the LA Times suggests you re-elect U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein because she comes from a more “civil and productive era of governance” and has accomplished a great deal like that. The editorial casts doubt on the effectiveness of her challenger, state senator Kevin de León who seems “unwilling to compromise.”

    LA Times en Español, however, has a different take. According to its editorial, de León is the best choice because he seems pragmatic and effective enough and knows the immigrant community best. And, after all, “Dianne Feinstein has been in the Senate since 1992” and that’s “too long. A generational change is needed.”

    LA Times in English thinks Steve Poizner is the best guy for Insurance Commissioner because he did a good job in the same position between 2007-2011 and the other candidate, Ricardo Lara, “lacks experience with insurance regulation.”

    But LA Times en Español wants you to back state Senator Ricardo Lara because he has “a strong commitment in defense of the consumer and his crusade in favor of universal health care reflects a passion for the most vulnerable.”

    LA Times English supports LA sheriff Jim McDonnell. LA Times en Español wants you to elect Alex Villanueva. The other endorsements are the same, except two ballot initiatives: Proposition 3, a water bond is a big NO for English speakers, but a YES for Spanish speakers. Proposition 7 about permanent Daylights Savings Time is a YES for English and a NO for Spanish (figure that one out for me, please).

  66. @Pericles
    "1 in 4 black adults in the state — and 1 in 3 black men — can't vote"

    1 in 3 black men are convicted felons, wow. If my math does not fail me, looks like 1 in 6 black women are felons too.

    Pericles, In Illinois, and especially Cook County, a lot of felonies are pleaded down to misdemeanors. It’s the new Woke in the justice system.

  67. Are the speakers of Mixtec even literate? Do they need live interpreters?

    Indeed, two interpreters? One from Mixtec into Spanish, and one for Spanish into English.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Many Mexicans do not even speak Spanish, and many more are not functionally literate in it or any other language.

    Of course, they are usually the dumbest and brownest Mexicans.

    We should have "American English" be declared our official language by constitutional amendment and no person allowed to exercise any privilege, duty or responsibility of citizenship in any other language.
  68. @Buffalo Joe
    Unit, Cities don't get any more dysfunctional than Detroit, and according to the Detroit Free Press 47% of the adult black population is "functionally illiterate." Meaning that they can't read things like a menu, a bus scheduled, a job application and by my extension, a ballot.

    They can usually read enough to find the candidates with (D) next to their names or flip the D lever (maybe with a little help from their local Democrat committeemen – a prefilled sample ballot, etc.) Although judging by the Florida Gore ballots, even that was too much to ask in many cases.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Jack , Thank you. I think you used to be allowed to take an "assistant" into the voting booth with you. I saw people helping older voters with their paper ballots when I voted this morning. Big turn out, almost like when they tried to raise our local school budget by 10%.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    They can usually read enough to find the candidates with (D) next to their names or flip the D lever (maybe with a little help from their local Democrat committeemen – a prefilled sample ballot, etc.)
     
    Because so many of them are shaped like the letter D.

    Though perhaps the better-hung ones might identify with the R. Assuming there's even an R on the ballot.
  69. @jim jones
    We are lucky that the Japanese gave up on invading the West:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhdQtwZDkGs

    We are lucky that the Japanese gave up on invading the West:

    But only because we’re not worth it anymore.

    It would be like the Civil War– the “winners” really are the losers.

  70. @Jack D
    They can usually read enough to find the candidates with (D) next to their names or flip the D lever (maybe with a little help from their local Democrat committeemen - a prefilled sample ballot, etc.) Although judging by the Florida Gore ballots, even that was too much to ask in many cases.

    Jack , Thank you. I think you used to be allowed to take an “assistant” into the voting booth with you. I saw people helping older voters with their paper ballots when I voted this morning. Big turn out, almost like when they tried to raise our local school budget by 10%.

    • Replies: @europeasant
    I saw an older Hispanic man being led into the polling place on election day. It seems that he wanted to register for voting that day. The registration electronic machine was down but the registration would be conducted manually. I overheard part of that conversation. It seems that the man did not have an address and could not speak English. Don't know the results of the registration but these are some of our new diverse voters.

    Also, an old woman wanted insert the two paper ballots into the machine at the same time. The attendant told her that the paper ballots needed to be inserted one at a time.

    These are some of our new diverse voters.

    Lucky that there is no simple quick IQ test to administer because I'm sure about 25 % of voters would be disqualified.

  71. I have no problem with slow counts as long as they are accurate and verifiable (get rid of the machines and use paper ballots!!!). I do regard all ballots cast in a language other than English to be fraudulent. Legal naturalization requires competency in the English language. Those who are not competent have been fraudulently naturalized, therefore their votes are also fraudulent.

  72. @Hippopotamusdrome
    OT

    Richard Dawkins: "Orange man bad"


    @RichardDawkins

    Dear US voters, don’t blame Dems for the excesses of the overzealous left. Those deplatformings, safe spaces, gender politics & Islamophilia are just silly. Trump is more than silly, he’s a seriously bad man: a liar, a dangerously unstable, bullying denier of scientific facts.

     

    Richard Dawkins, the Babu of the internet:

  73. @Lugash
    Notice how he doesn't suggest something like a general strike. That would be too disruptive to corporate America.

    What the hell good would a general strike by progressives do? Most of them don’t have productive jobs. It’ll just backfire. OMG, the diversity coordinator is on strike today! What to do? What to do?

    Maybe you know better though, as you are, after all, Lugash.

  74. @Jack D

    I don't think people are ready for the crisis that will follow if Democrats win the House popular vote but not the majority.
     
    , said no human being, ever. This has happened before without causing a crisis (1996, 2010) and will happen again.

    "House popular vote" is a statistical artifact that has no Constitutional relevance whatsoever. If Democrats and blacks all cluster together in big cities where they win by big margins, they are going to run up their popular vote total without getting any extra seats for it. It's like any other sport - if you win the baseball game 12-1 or 7-6, a win is a win and it doesn't create a "crisis" if the team at the top of the standings has a lot of 1 run victories while #2 has a lot of 10 run victories but has won fewer games overall.

    The popular vote nonsense is just preemptive sour grapes if the Dems don't manage to take control of the House.

    “House popular vote” is a statistical artifact that has no Constitutional relevance whatsoever

    Particularly as many candidates run unopposed.

    And it’s also a statistical artifact in the presidential election, as well. States have different qualifications for voting, so it’s illegitimate to combine their votes, even for mere analysis.

  75. @Anonymous
    You joke about ballots printed in Linear A(?), but every post office in CA has a giant wall of vote registration posters comprising a dozen languages. It is not unusual to see the other non-electoral signs translated into Chinese script too (they do love their mail time).

    Also when I applied to the Cal State system it asked me what language was spoken at my home and I picked Old Church Slavonic.

    I picked Old Church Slavonic.

    Good on ya’, #245! I like f__ing with the their system, and I like people who do that.

  76. @Hippopotamusdrome
    OT

    Richard Dawkins: "Orange man bad"


    @RichardDawkins

    Dear US voters, don’t blame Dems for the excesses of the overzealous left. Those deplatformings, safe spaces, gender politics & Islamophilia are just silly. Trump is more than silly, he’s a seriously bad man: a liar, a dangerously unstable, bullying denier of scientific facts.

     

    Why is that man (using that term very broadly here) taken as a serious thinker?

  77. @Jack D
    They can usually read enough to find the candidates with (D) next to their names or flip the D lever (maybe with a little help from their local Democrat committeemen - a prefilled sample ballot, etc.) Although judging by the Florida Gore ballots, even that was too much to ask in many cases.

    They can usually read enough to find the candidates with (D) next to their names or flip the D lever (maybe with a little help from their local Democrat committeemen – a prefilled sample ballot, etc.)

    Because so many of them are shaped like the letter D.

    Though perhaps the better-hung ones might identify with the R. Assuming there’s even an R on the ballot.

  78. @Lugash
    Notice how he doesn't suggest something like a general strike. That would be too disruptive to corporate America.

    Lefttards have tried doing general strikes for years, it never works.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Lefttards have tried doing general strikes for years, it never works.
     
    So have Objectivists. It never even registers.
  79. California’s Vote Counters Ready Their Clay Tablets and Abacuses

    Shouldn’t that be abaci?

    Top comment thereunder:

    In a school corridor, the Latin Club put up a sign, “Be a Roman – learn Latin!” Someone wrote underneath, “Be an educated Roman – learn Greek!”

  80. “Nor do these Third World countries have to provide, by legislation or court order, ballots in English, Spanish, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Armenian, Navajo, Persian, Arabic, Syriac, Panjabi, Punjabi, Hmong, Mixtec, Esperanto, Hittite, Proto-Indo-European, Klingon, Linear B, Linear A, !San Clickspeak, Shavian Alphabet, Incan Knot Lingo, Runic, Voynich Manuscript, Semaphore, Canary Islands Whistle Speech, The Analytical Language of John Wilkins, American Sign Language, Thieves’ Argot, Pig Latin, Smoke Signals, Ouija Board, Enigma Encryption, Turing Machine, General Semantics, System Basic, Cityspeak, Telepathy, Dolphin, Assembler, COBOL, Coco Sign Language, HTML, PDF, Graffiti, Gang Signs, Tattoos, SMS, Bitcoin, and Emoji, plus certain languages spoken only by individual pairs of identical twins.”

    Hello, Steve, how about Ebonics?? Oh won’t somebody please think of the Ebons????

  81. @Lot
    Lefttards have tried doing general strikes for years, it never works.

    Lefttards have tried doing general strikes for years, it never works.

    So have Objectivists. It never even registers.

  82. @t
    https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1059605251760754689

    “Pressure on creatives” should read “dox and blacklist conservative gentile creatives.”

  83. anon[284] • Disclaimer says:

    The stupid party will get its wish and lose the House. They had a nice majority and couldn’t agree on much other than a tax cut. Since that was done, they will be much happier losing on principle for two years. They will look back at the missed opportunity with dismay.

    Like a hanging, this may focus the attention on Executive action the next two years. I would prefer to be wrong about the house.

  84. @Pericles
    "1 in 4 black adults in the state — and 1 in 3 black men — can't vote"

    1 in 3 black men are convicted felons, wow. If my math does not fail me, looks like 1 in 6 black women are felons too.

    1 in 3 black men are convicted felons, wow. If my math does not fail me, looks like 1 in 6 black women are felons too.

    This would also dispel the notion that 99 percent of blacks are law-abiding angels.

    • Replies: @Daniel H
    Bear in mind that disenfranchisement of felons may be the only factor keeping Republicans viable in many jurisdictions/states.
  85. @eah
    An amazing stat, if true: 1/3 of voting age black males in KY are convicted felons and therefore cannot vote -- sorry, but I refuse to regard this as my or America's problem -- and the media will spin this in a way that hinders people from drawing the most relevant conclusions/asking the most pertinent questions, eg 'What kind of a country would it be if it were full of black men?' -- same as some years ago when it was mooted that more young black men were incarcerated than attending university.

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1059283120200077314

    Two hours ago, down here in the Sunshine State, I inked the box that selects not to restore the vote to convicted felons.

    I had second thoughts because you can be found guilty of a felony for e.g. throwing a cream pie in a politician’s face–and what red-blooded American would fault you for that? But I reckoned that for every pie thrower there are a lot more murderers and rapists I’d rather not see voting.

  86. OT, but a nice answer on Quora:

    Why is Russian population not growing?

    Majority of Russian women are not of childbearing age.

    Contrary to popular belief, Russia does not have a surplus of young women. Actually we have a small shortage of young girls. So if any foreign girl is interested in dating or starting a family with a Russian guy to help Russia’s birth rates, you’re more than welcome, we don’t bite, i promise…

    https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Russian-population-not-growing

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Reg, in the Want Ads, under "Wombs Wanted."
  87. @Jack D

    I don't think people are ready for the crisis that will follow if Democrats win the House popular vote but not the majority.
     
    , said no human being, ever. This has happened before without causing a crisis (1996, 2010) and will happen again.

    "House popular vote" is a statistical artifact that has no Constitutional relevance whatsoever. If Democrats and blacks all cluster together in big cities where they win by big margins, they are going to run up their popular vote total without getting any extra seats for it. It's like any other sport - if you win the baseball game 12-1 or 7-6, a win is a win and it doesn't create a "crisis" if the team at the top of the standings has a lot of 1 run victories while #2 has a lot of 10 run victories but has won fewer games overall.

    The popular vote nonsense is just preemptive sour grapes if the Dems don't manage to take control of the House.

    The New York Yankees outscored the Houston Astros 22-20 in the 2017 ALCS. Therefore they should have played in the World Series that year.

    In New Jersey the two biggest Gerrymandered districts are 8 and 10. Eight is represented by Albio Sires, a fat Cuban man who won 77-19 in 2016. Ten is represented by Donald Payne Jr, a fat black man who won 86-12 in 2016.

    Winning by a landslide still only entitles you to 1 seat.

  88. @YetAnotherAnon
    OT - NYT explains how AfD voters in Germany are poor incels, unlike Merkel's "dynamic, determined and driven"(see Cologne for details) New Germans.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/05/world/europe/merkel-east-germany-nationalists-populism.html

    "After the wall came down, the East lost more than 10 percent of its population. Two-thirds of those who left and did not come back were young women.

    It was the most extreme case of female flight in Europe, said Reiner Klingholz, director of the Berlin Institute for Population and Development, who has studied the phenomenon. Only the Arctic Circle and a few islands off the coast of Turkey suffer comparable male-female imbalances.

    In large swaths of rural eastern Germany, men today still outnumber women, and the regions where the women disappeared map almost exactly onto the regions that vote for the Alternative for Germany today.

    “There is a gender element to the rise of the far right that is not sufficiently acknowledged and studied,” Mr. Klingholz said."
     

    When non-whites are poor and demoralised. “That’s awful, they must be taught more confidence, it’s not their fault, society should change for them.”
    When whites feel demoralised and alienated. “HAHA, losers!”

  89. @Intelligent Dasein
    Dawkins:

    Trump is more than silly, he’s a seriously bad man: a liar, a dangerously unstable, bullying denier of scientific facts.
     
    But isn't he just being that way because the bullies and bad boys and unperdictable ADHD hunks got all the hot chicks in Olduvai Gorge? Let's have some consistency here, Mr. Selfish Gene.

    One of your best comments. Bravo.

  90. @eah
    "the real America"

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrVdl1PWwAMYYcS.jpg

    Witness a man in the act of devouring himself from the tail up. What sheer nonsense. What can he mean?

  91. @eah
    "the real America"

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrVdl1PWwAMYYcS.jpg

    Do you notice how the democrats conveniently ignore the nonwhite voter when bragging that their party is better educated?

    Assuming white democrats have on average a higher level of education than white republicans, certainly one cannot make that assumption about the overwhelming majority of black and hispanic voters, i.e. the democratic base. If anything those voters are among the least educated group in America. And given their rather large proportion of the democratic vote, they most certainly would have to bring the overall democratic education average down.

    Yet whites like Krugman conveniently ignore this and go on about how republicans are less educated. However, in the same tweet Krugman asserts that democrats are also the majority of the country. That might be true, but only because of those uneducated hordes that he conveniently leaves out of the discussion about educational attainment.

    • Replies: @International Jew

    Assuming white democrats have on average a higher level of education than white republicans
     
    Perhaps. But college-educated white Republicans outnumber college-educated white Dems. Trump won the white college-educated vote, according to CNN's exit poll:
    https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls
    , @anon

    Do you notice how the democrats conveniently ignore the nonwhite voter when bragging that their party is better educated?...Yet whites like Krugman conveniently ignore this and go on about how republicans are less educated
     
    Krugman and democrats are class snobs, and very simple-minded about education.
    They ignore that education often means indoctrination (in politics anyway) and can do as much harm as good.
    They ignore the basic idea of dem0cracy that the people who will have to live under a law should be the ones who make the law. The qualification to be a voter isn't education, it is just the fact that I will be under the law's jurisdiction.
    They ignore that politics is about power and interests, not just ideas. Krugman thinks he and his kind can't be corrupted by power, and doesn't believe high school graduates can see their own self interest.
    He only wants to de-legitimize voters he disagrees with. He wants to de-legitimize voters who have legitimate interests that are opposed to his interests.
    Krugman is a radically dishonest thinker.
  92. @eah
    "the real America"

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrVdl1PWwAMYYcS.jpg

    The ‘real America’, that didn’t come into existence until the 1980s. Feels weird how America became a superpower 40 years before it existed, but economists are used to understanding the absurd.

    • Replies: @eah
    https://twitter.com/HarmlessYardDog/status/1059878320190472192
  93. @Anonymous
    You joke about ballots printed in Linear A(?), but every post office in CA has a giant wall of vote registration posters comprising a dozen languages. It is not unusual to see the other non-electoral signs translated into Chinese script too (they do love their mail time).

    Also when I applied to the Cal State system it asked me what language was spoken at my home and I picked Old Church Slavonic.

    Do you use the cyrillic, arabic, latin, or glagolitic script when speaking OC Slavonic?

    Croatian Serbs seem to have the dialect closest to OCS.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Croatian Serbs seem to have the dialect closest to OCS.
     
    Don't tell a Bulgarian that. They claim to have sired the entire Slavic branch of IE.
    , @El Dato
    OCS == Old Church Slavonic?

    Looks a bit like Angelic, a language useful for communicating with angels. Or so Heinrich Cornelius Agrippa says.

    Old Heinrich was an early Pussy Hat March Companion. From Jimbo's fecund font of fantastique factoids:

    Agrippa's academic career began in 1509, receiving the patronage Margaret of Austria, governor of Franche-Comté, and Antoine de Vergy, archbishop of Besançon and chancellor of the University of Dôle. He was given the opportunity to lecture a course at the University on Hebrew scholar Johann Reuchlin's De verbo mirifico. At Dôle, Agrippa wrote De nobilitate et praecellentia foeminae sexus (On the Nobility and Excellence of the Feminine Sex), a work that tried to prove the superiority of women using cabalistic ideas. The book was probably intended to impress Margaret. Agrippa’s lectures received attention, and he was given a doctorate in theology because of them. He was, however, denounced by the Franciscan prior Jean Catilinet as a "Judaizing heretic", and was forced to leave Dôle in 1510.
     
  94. @Jack D
    A lot of overwhelmingly Democrat districts are the result of Republican gerrymandering in the state legislatures. You stick all the Democrat voters in your states big cit(ies) into their own overwhelmingly Democrat districts and then all the other districts become competitive for the Republicans.

    The PA Supreme Ct overturned the PA scheme and designed a "fair" map of its own (to me a shocking abuse of judicial power) and the result is going to be the loss of several R seats. For example, my Super Zip suburban township which leans D was formerly attached to a safely D black district in West Philadelphia (our Congressman got set to jail for corruption). Now it is attached to a suburban district that is almost certainly going to go Democrat partly as a result. The sitting Republican Congressman from the old gerrymandered district resigned due to a sexual harassment scandal. He used government funds to pay her off and kept the settlement confidential but it came out. The level of corruption in PA government in both parties is shocking. The only safe thing seems to be to elect really rich guys so that they don't need to steal from the government to maintain their lifestyle.

    A lot of overwhelmingly Democrat districts are the result of Republican gerrymandering in the state legislatures.

    I hear this a lot as though the GOP is the only one gerrymandering districts. Don’t the democrats do the same in states they control? If not, why not?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    They do but Republicans control state gov't in many more states than Dems. There are 26 states where the Republicans control both houses of the state legislature and the governor's office and only 8 fully D controlled states.
  95. @Hippopotamusdrome
    OT

    Richard Dawkins: "Orange man bad"


    @RichardDawkins

    Dear US voters, don’t blame Dems for the excesses of the overzealous left. Those deplatformings, safe spaces, gender politics & Islamophilia are just silly. Trump is more than silly, he’s a seriously bad man: a liar, a dangerously unstable, bullying denier of scientific facts.

     

    The last time I heard Richard Dawkins, Islamophilia, and being de platformed mentioned together was when KPFA abruptly cancelled a live radio show he was scheduled to do because of statements he had made about Islam. The way it happened would be comedic if it were not so real. Apparently his constant put downs of Christianity is ok but talking smack about the other two monotheistic religions is taboo (we know that). Once he was labeled “racist” and his comments about Islam were considered “hate speech” he became radioactive and was banished. Most people at KPFA probably agree with him but are as afraid of the mob they have helped to whip us as the rest of the left is in spite of all their bravado about “free speech”. Free speech is dead on the left.

    https://kpfa.org/blog/statement-decision-cancel-richard-dawkins-event/

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    An Ohio caller to Dennis Prager reports seeing Oberlin students tearing down all Republican signs but leaving the Democrat ones up.
    , @Dieter Kief
    There are a few leftist or libertarian free speech promoters though - and quite a few of them (Joe Rogan, Dave Rubin, Jordan B. Peterson, the Intellectual Dark Web of Eric Weinstein, Jonathan Haidt's Heterodox Academy), seem to generate a quite strong public following.
    , @vinteuil

    Free speech is dead on the left.
     
    Ain't it the truth.

    It's depressing that Dawkins gets it exactly backwards. It's Trump who's sometimes silly. It's the guys Dawkins dismisses as merely silly who are genuinely evil & dangerous.
  96. Comedy Advice for Sailer

    Three words essential to levity:
    Brevity! Brevity! Brevity!
    Loquacious verbosity
    Achieves tediosity
    With absolute total inevity.*

    In other words, “Brevity is the soul of wit, and tediousness the limbs and outward flourishes.”

    *I. e., it’s inevitable.

    • LOL: Liza
    • Replies: @Olorin
    To put it another way

    "Brevity...is wit."
  97. @eah
    An amazing stat, if true: 1/3 of voting age black males in KY are convicted felons and therefore cannot vote -- sorry, but I refuse to regard this as my or America's problem -- and the media will spin this in a way that hinders people from drawing the most relevant conclusions/asking the most pertinent questions, eg 'What kind of a country would it be if it were full of black men?' -- same as some years ago when it was mooted that more young black men were incarcerated than attending university.

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1059283120200077314

    If the Dems succeed at giving the vote to ex-cons, they’ll push to give the vote to current prisoners too. It’ll be the next “civil rights” crusade.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    IJ, there is not a lot in print about the fact that when you apply for a driver's license in California, they automatically register you to vote. No questions asked/allowed about your citizenship status.
    , @Hibernian
    Jesse Jackson registered voters in jail, I think they were in pretrial detention.
  98. @istevefan
    Do you notice how the democrats conveniently ignore the nonwhite voter when bragging that their party is better educated?

    Assuming white democrats have on average a higher level of education than white republicans, certainly one cannot make that assumption about the overwhelming majority of black and hispanic voters, i.e. the democratic base. If anything those voters are among the least educated group in America. And given their rather large proportion of the democratic vote, they most certainly would have to bring the overall democratic education average down.

    Yet whites like Krugman conveniently ignore this and go on about how republicans are less educated. However, in the same tweet Krugman asserts that democrats are also the majority of the country. That might be true, but only because of those uneducated hordes that he conveniently leaves out of the discussion about educational attainment.

    Assuming white democrats have on average a higher level of education than white republicans

    Perhaps. But college-educated white Republicans outnumber college-educated white Dems. Trump won the white college-educated vote, according to CNN’s exit poll:

    https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls

  99. @Prof. Woland
    The last time I heard Richard Dawkins, Islamophilia, and being de platformed mentioned together was when KPFA abruptly cancelled a live radio show he was scheduled to do because of statements he had made about Islam. The way it happened would be comedic if it were not so real. Apparently his constant put downs of Christianity is ok but talking smack about the other two monotheistic religions is taboo (we know that). Once he was labeled "racist" and his comments about Islam were considered "hate speech" he became radioactive and was banished. Most people at KPFA probably agree with him but are as afraid of the mob they have helped to whip us as the rest of the left is in spite of all their bravado about "free speech". Free speech is dead on the left.

    https://kpfa.org/blog/statement-decision-cancel-richard-dawkins-event/

    An Ohio caller to Dennis Prager reports seeing Oberlin students tearing down all Republican signs but leaving the Democrat ones up.

  100. Trainspotting English should be on this list Steve Now THAT is a language worth listening to

  101. @Jack D

    I don't think people are ready for the crisis that will follow if Democrats win the House popular vote but not the majority.
     
    , said no human being, ever. This has happened before without causing a crisis (1996, 2010) and will happen again.

    "House popular vote" is a statistical artifact that has no Constitutional relevance whatsoever. If Democrats and blacks all cluster together in big cities where they win by big margins, they are going to run up their popular vote total without getting any extra seats for it. It's like any other sport - if you win the baseball game 12-1 or 7-6, a win is a win and it doesn't create a "crisis" if the team at the top of the standings has a lot of 1 run victories while #2 has a lot of 10 run victories but has won fewer games overall.

    The popular vote nonsense is just preemptive sour grapes if the Dems don't manage to take control of the House.

    The popular vote nonsense is just preemptive sour grapes if the Dems don’t manage to take control of the House.

    They will b!tch and moan about this the same way they complained about Trump losing by three million votes or so. Trump lost by about the same amount in California, so really the Dems wasted their time piling up a higher winning margin in California. Hillary campaigned often in California at high priced fund raisers.

  102. There is no programmatic effort against white South Africans. But they cannot seek a job through the government online.

    https://www.rt.com/business/443221-white-south-africans-barred/

    A registration process on a government partnered youth employment initiative has appeared to exclude white South Africans, sparking criticism from the country’s trade union.

    The YES (Youth Employment Service) government jobs website aims at helping unemployed young South Africans who have been jobless for longer than six months. The program is endorsed by the National Development Plan 2030, which intends to eliminate poverty and reduce inequality within the next 12 years.

    The registration criteria on the site require the applicants to be black, in accordance with the BEE definition (Black Economic Empowerment), between the ages of 18 – 34, and South African citizens.

  103. @YetAnotherAnon
    OT - NYT explains how AfD voters in Germany are poor incels, unlike Merkel's "dynamic, determined and driven"(see Cologne for details) New Germans.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/05/world/europe/merkel-east-germany-nationalists-populism.html

    "After the wall came down, the East lost more than 10 percent of its population. Two-thirds of those who left and did not come back were young women.

    It was the most extreme case of female flight in Europe, said Reiner Klingholz, director of the Berlin Institute for Population and Development, who has studied the phenomenon. Only the Arctic Circle and a few islands off the coast of Turkey suffer comparable male-female imbalances.

    In large swaths of rural eastern Germany, men today still outnumber women, and the regions where the women disappeared map almost exactly onto the regions that vote for the Alternative for Germany today.

    “There is a gender element to the rise of the far right that is not sufficiently acknowledged and studied,” Mr. Klingholz said."
     

    a few islands off the coast of Turkey

    ? Lesbos?

    a few islands off the coast of Turkey ? Seems unlikely

  104. NPR gaslights all criticism of the caravan by preposterously demanding “evidence” for fears about smugglers, exploitation, and crime. But sometimes an Israeli billionaire just really needs a pancreas …

    https://nypost.com/2018/11/06/drug-cartel-likely-behind-100-kidnappings-from-migrant-caravan/

    About 100 migrants, including children, have been kidnapped during their long trek to the US — presumably by the dangerous drug cartel Los Zetas, according to a new report.

    The migrants weren’t among the thousands who arrived in Mexico City on Monday, Arturo Peimbert, the ombudsman for the human rights commission in Oaxaca, told HuffPost Mexico.

    Peimbert said the group was kidnapped in Puebla state while trying to reach the capital from Veracruz.

  105. Bob Hugin looks like he will take out that corrupt perv Menendez.

  106. @eah
    https://twitter.com/ezraklein/status/1059553661586567168

    Just in case Klein’s dark vision gets real – here’s another small reason, why it might have happened: German business donations in these elections were leaning pro-Trump:

    https://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/plus183312766/Midterms-Die-spendabelsten-deutschen-Trump-Helfer.html

  107. @Reg Cæsar
    OT, but a nice answer on Quora:

    Why is Russian population not growing?

    Majority of Russian women are not of childbearing age.

    Contrary to popular belief, Russia does not have a surplus of young women. Actually we have a small shortage of young girls. So if any foreign girl is interested in dating or starting a family with a Russian guy to help Russia’s birth rates, you’re more than welcome, we don’t bite, i promise...

    https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Russian-population-not-growing
     

    Reg, in the Want Ads, under “Wombs Wanted.”

  108. @Prof. Woland
    The last time I heard Richard Dawkins, Islamophilia, and being de platformed mentioned together was when KPFA abruptly cancelled a live radio show he was scheduled to do because of statements he had made about Islam. The way it happened would be comedic if it were not so real. Apparently his constant put downs of Christianity is ok but talking smack about the other two monotheistic religions is taboo (we know that). Once he was labeled "racist" and his comments about Islam were considered "hate speech" he became radioactive and was banished. Most people at KPFA probably agree with him but are as afraid of the mob they have helped to whip us as the rest of the left is in spite of all their bravado about "free speech". Free speech is dead on the left.

    https://kpfa.org/blog/statement-decision-cancel-richard-dawkins-event/

    There are a few leftist or libertarian free speech promoters though – and quite a few of them (Joe Rogan, Dave Rubin, Jordan B. Peterson, the Intellectual Dark Web of Eric Weinstein, Jonathan Haidt’s Heterodox Academy), seem to generate a quite strong public following.

    • Replies: @Olorin
    They are controlled opposition. They only promote free speech on the issues they agree with.

    And they exist primarily to make sure that young White males keep committing suicide at high rates, which is preferable to becoming racially aware, as Whites, and organizing biologically, socially, politically, and culturally around White racial identity.

    Jordan Peterson has admitted this openly. I.e., that the biggest threat to the world, in his eyes, is young White men and women adopting White identity and acting as a political bloc in line with their own best interests rather than those of Jews or their post-Hart-Celler pets. (It's Hitlertastic! It's Nazirrific!)

    Also note that this is an almost entirely Jewish controlled group/information operation. Elsewhere in these pages Andrew Joyce discusses how Jordan Peterson misrepresents the writings of his ostensibly favorite big-gun writers/intellectual fathers in order to achieve this.

    http://www.unz.com/article/reply-to-jordan-peterson-on-the-jewish-question-from-his-heroes/

    Make no mistake: they are not encouraging FREE speech, they are regrouping to protect THEIR speech and disable incipient movements around White identity among young men. Their machinations are an offshoot of the marxist and feminist discourses of the 20th century. The goal is the same: to control and silence Whites while keeping the Jewish meme alive as one that everyone must bow to, as demanded. Like all human power machinations, this is about mates/reproduction, and power, and territory.

  109. @eah
    An amazing stat, if true: 1/3 of voting age black males in KY are convicted felons and therefore cannot vote -- sorry, but I refuse to regard this as my or America's problem -- and the media will spin this in a way that hinders people from drawing the most relevant conclusions/asking the most pertinent questions, eg 'What kind of a country would it be if it were full of black men?' -- same as some years ago when it was mooted that more young black men were incarcerated than attending university.

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1059283120200077314

    Once you have served your time, you should have your rights restored – including the right to vote.

  110. How much of that majority of the popular vote will consist of immigrants, illegals who have been amnestied, or the children of illegals who are only citizens because if our idiotic birthright citizenship policy?

  111. @International Jew
    If the Dems succeed at giving the vote to ex-cons, they'll push to give the vote to current prisoners too. It'll be the next "civil rights" crusade.

    IJ, there is not a lot in print about the fact that when you apply for a driver’s license in California, they automatically register you to vote. No questions asked/allowed about your citizenship status.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Supposedly not true:

    https://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2018/jan/24/worldnetdaily/no-california-didnt-pass-law-allowing-undocumented/

    The US has legalized so many millions of D leaning immigrants that Cal. is overwhelmingly Democrat even without the benefit of illegal immigrant voters. Making an already deep blue state even bluer doesn't change electoral outcomes.
  112. @istevefan

    A lot of overwhelmingly Democrat districts are the result of Republican gerrymandering in the state legislatures.
     
    I hear this a lot as though the GOP is the only one gerrymandering districts. Don't the democrats do the same in states they control? If not, why not?

    They do but Republicans control state gov’t in many more states than Dems. There are 26 states where the Republicans control both houses of the state legislature and the governor’s office and only 8 fully D controlled states.

    • Replies: @istevefan

    There are 26 states where the Republicans control both houses
     
    I understand as of today that is the scorecard. The GOP is sitting pretty. But gerrymandering has been a thing since the early 1800s. And after every census, districts get redrawn. I can't believe the GOP has controlled this many state legislatures for over a century and a half. Surely the democrats must have had their golden days when they controlled the district boundaries.

    It is interesting that I've only heard vociferous opposition to gerrymander since the last census. The media is all over it because it is costing democrats control. I recall hearing the term in my jr. high civics class, but the term was not toxic back then like it is now. My guess is that if democrats were benefiting from it, it wouldn't be an issue.

    Steve brought this up earlier and I think the GOP should bring it up again. Gerrymandering actually helps blacks get better representation in the House because it guarantees a black is going to be elected. After the last census, my suburban KC district was attached to an urban one and my vote is now meaningless because the black candidate will win, period.

  113. @Buffalo Joe
    IJ, there is not a lot in print about the fact that when you apply for a driver's license in California, they automatically register you to vote. No questions asked/allowed about your citizenship status.

    Supposedly not true:

    https://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2018/jan/24/worldnetdaily/no-california-didnt-pass-law-allowing-undocumented/

    The US has legalized so many millions of D leaning immigrants that Cal. is overwhelmingly Democrat even without the benefit of illegal immigrant voters. Making an already deep blue state even bluer doesn’t change electoral outcomes.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    They don't have to vote. Illegals and legals merely have to reside there to be counted in the Census, and add to the state's Congressional delegation.

    How many of California's 51 seats are due to non-citizen residents? Is it up to six now?
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Jack, I stand corrected, I thought I had read that at the San Francisco Chronicle.
    , @J.Ross
    >citing politifact
    Was this a garbling of automatically registering voters when they got a driver's license?
    Nobody would flat out authorize illegal voting (they'd be inviting legal challenges before anything else happened), but there are a million effective legalizations, like one-way voter verification (I claim to be Jack D, and unless Jack D himself shows up and challenges this, it's accepted).
    Let's remember Trump branded a liar because he did not specify the exact technical process by which Hillary mishandled classified information.
  114. @Jack D
    They do but Republicans control state gov't in many more states than Dems. There are 26 states where the Republicans control both houses of the state legislature and the governor's office and only 8 fully D controlled states.

    There are 26 states where the Republicans control both houses

    I understand as of today that is the scorecard. The GOP is sitting pretty. But gerrymandering has been a thing since the early 1800s. And after every census, districts get redrawn. I can’t believe the GOP has controlled this many state legislatures for over a century and a half. Surely the democrats must have had their golden days when they controlled the district boundaries.

    It is interesting that I’ve only heard vociferous opposition to gerrymander since the last census. The media is all over it because it is costing democrats control. I recall hearing the term in my jr. high civics class, but the term was not toxic back then like it is now. My guess is that if democrats were benefiting from it, it wouldn’t be an issue.

    Steve brought this up earlier and I think the GOP should bring it up again. Gerrymandering actually helps blacks get better representation in the House because it guarantees a black is going to be elected. After the last census, my suburban KC district was attached to an urban one and my vote is now meaningless because the black candidate will win, period.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    the term was not toxic back then like it is now

    It's like the filibuster, a neutral control on centralization. The gerrymandered district map offends the same useless instinct of propriety which wouldn't last an hour in a real courtroom. It's like that one Star Trek episode where the proxying superpowers are giving muskets to Space Iroquois. The fake purity of objectivity would mean total concession to the party in power. This is a messy, ugly process, but it's fair. Anyone familiar with the history of the great foundations and our government bureaucracies knows exactly what will happen to these supposedly objective citizen's districting commissions. In the time it takes for them to assemble they wil be solidly leftist.
    , @Anonymous
    It's important to understand that blacks always vote as a bloc, in the manner in which they are told to, and so what matters is who does the telling-to and who, even more importantly, controls them.

    The direct managers of this are the local and national Black Big Men, but they in turn are controlled by ((others)). Jesse Jackson found that out when he correctly named who runs New York.
  115. @eah
    An amazing stat, if true: 1/3 of voting age black males in KY are convicted felons and therefore cannot vote -- sorry, but I refuse to regard this as my or America's problem -- and the media will spin this in a way that hinders people from drawing the most relevant conclusions/asking the most pertinent questions, eg 'What kind of a country would it be if it were full of black men?' -- same as some years ago when it was mooted that more young black men were incarcerated than attending university.

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1059283120200077314

    So are they saying that Michael Bloomberg and Nick Hanauer and the other anti-gun billionaires who are working/investing to turn law abiding white gun owners into felons via a bunch of niggling new regulation that can be enforced at whim and will for political reasons in order to bar white voters (the most gun-owning segment of the population) from voting because of felony convictions…

    …are wasting their money?

    Have you seen anyone analyzing how many white men with felony convictions would have their voting restored via the above means?

  116. @the one they call Desanex
    Comedy Advice for Sailer

    Three words essential to levity:
    Brevity! Brevity! Brevity!
    Loquacious verbosity
    Achieves tediosity
    With absolute total inevity.*

    In other words, “Brevity is the soul of wit, and tediousness the limbs and outward flourishes.”

    *I. e., it’s inevitable.

    To put it another way

    “Brevity…is wit.”

  117. @Chrisnonymous
    Democrats ought to be angry at all the new voters they've imported. Why are they all moving to California? Ungrateful!

    Democrats ought to be angry at all the new voters they’ve imported. Why are they all moving to California? Ungrateful!

    they have to move to California to be close to those who love them.

  118. @eah
    "the real America"

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrVdl1PWwAMYYcS.jpg

    Yet another ‘cohencidence’.

  119. @Carol
    Is that one of ours or one of theirs?

    all TrumpWave is very much ours.

  120. @Jack D

    a seriously bad [person]: a liar, a dangerously unstable
     
    While Hillary Clinton, OTOH, is

    a seriously bad [person]: a liar, a dangerously unstable...

    It's not like we had a choice between Trump and Thomas Jefferson.

    If Jefferson ran today as a democrat I wouldn’t vote for him. Washington neither.

  121. @Dieter Kief
    There are a few leftist or libertarian free speech promoters though - and quite a few of them (Joe Rogan, Dave Rubin, Jordan B. Peterson, the Intellectual Dark Web of Eric Weinstein, Jonathan Haidt's Heterodox Academy), seem to generate a quite strong public following.

    They are controlled opposition. They only promote free speech on the issues they agree with.

    And they exist primarily to make sure that young White males keep committing suicide at high rates, which is preferable to becoming racially aware, as Whites, and organizing biologically, socially, politically, and culturally around White racial identity.

    Jordan Peterson has admitted this openly. I.e., that the biggest threat to the world, in his eyes, is young White men and women adopting White identity and acting as a political bloc in line with their own best interests rather than those of Jews or their post-Hart-Celler pets. (It’s Hitlertastic! It’s Nazirrific!)

    Also note that this is an almost entirely Jewish controlled group/information operation. Elsewhere in these pages Andrew Joyce discusses how Jordan Peterson misrepresents the writings of his ostensibly favorite big-gun writers/intellectual fathers in order to achieve this.

    http://www.unz.com/article/reply-to-jordan-peterson-on-the-jewish-question-from-his-heroes/

    Make no mistake: they are not encouraging FREE speech, they are regrouping to protect THEIR speech and disable incipient movements around White identity among young men. Their machinations are an offshoot of the marxist and feminist discourses of the 20th century. The goal is the same: to control and silence Whites while keeping the Jewish meme alive as one that everyone must bow to, as demanded. Like all human power machinations, this is about mates/reproduction, and power, and territory.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    Rogan and Haidt and Rubin and -: - JB Peterson above all - - : He is definitely for free speech and the free exchange of arguments. You can oppose lots of thoughts, as long as you allow your opponent, to have these thoughts, which might be all kinds of things - puzzling, obnoxious, strange, intimidating even - but all of this should just not matter, as long as there is a civil discourse taking place and as long as the things discussed don't include obviously unlawful things - like child molestation, say....

    (I remember a time in Germany, when the establishment found nothing irritating in the fact, that lots of members of the establishment were openly or (kinda) secretly supporting - - - terrorism, or that the political system should be overthrown and things like that - - - - - on, and on, and on... I then clearly and outspokenly opposed such ideas, and was therefore often times accused of being a right winger.... now, I have to say, that quite some of those past revolutionaries are in the parliament, or have become ministers even - - - nobody seems to remember.

    Well - nobody? -- Haha: No! - Not nobody, since I for sure do - I remember this stuff - quite well... So...I remind those past revolutionaries what they themselves once held true and could say in public - and ask them, to let their opponents on the right make their own mistakes - in case that they want to (and just in case that it should turn out, that what they actually say, is really wrong. I for one would bet for the future correctness of The Bell Curve - 500 bucks any time...and with a great pleasure - and quite confident, really.

  122. @eah
    An amazing stat, if true: 1/3 of voting age black males in KY are convicted felons and therefore cannot vote -- sorry, but I refuse to regard this as my or America's problem -- and the media will spin this in a way that hinders people from drawing the most relevant conclusions/asking the most pertinent questions, eg 'What kind of a country would it be if it were full of black men?' -- same as some years ago when it was mooted that more young black men were incarcerated than attending university.

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1059283120200077314

    An amazing stat, if true: 1/3 of voting age black males in KY are convicted felons and therefore cannot vote

    Actually, it’s really not so remarkable. Back a few years ago, The Sentencing Project, a liberal organization, estimated that *nationwide* roughly one-third of all black males are already convicted criminals by their 20s.

    Furthermore, I pointed out that the Census data indicates that that over one-quarter of adult black males in our three largest black population centers of New York City, Chicago, and Philadelphia are already dead or in prison:

    http://www.unz.com/runz/race-and-crime-in-america/#p_1_24

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    I'm guessing that the Sentencing Project would rather these "males" not have access to firearms as well.
    , @Forbes

    the Census data indicates that that over one-quarter of adult black males in our three largest black population centers of New York City, Chicago, and Philadelphia are already dead or in prison
     
    Why is the Census counting the dead as part of a census of the adult black male population?

    This makes no sense. A census is a count at a particular time--end of month, end of year, April 1 national census day every decade ending in zero. What count of the dead would be relevant to that particular census? Why?
    , @eah
    Amazing for people in what is supposed to be a civilized, first world country.
    , @Dieter Kief
    As impressive as it is depressing. But thanks nonetheless.
  123. @Ron Unz

    An amazing stat, if true: 1/3 of voting age black males in KY are convicted felons and therefore cannot vote
     
    Actually, it's really not so remarkable. Back a few years ago, The Sentencing Project, a liberal organization, estimated that *nationwide* roughly one-third of all black males are already convicted criminals by their 20s.

    Furthermore, I pointed out that the Census data indicates that that over one-quarter of adult black males in our three largest black population centers of New York City, Chicago, and Philadelphia are already dead or in prison:

    http://www.unz.com/runz/race-and-crime-in-america/#p_1_24

    I’m guessing that the Sentencing Project would rather these “males” not have access to firearms as well.

  124. @Buzz Mohawk
    Early interstellar ballots are coming in through Goldstone.

    http://78.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdlefozeEx1qf8cm7o1_500.png

    https://www.desertusa.com/desert-california/goldstone_images/cassini_3.jpg

    You know that Aliens suggest you vote Far Right!

  125. @Lot
    Do you use the cyrillic, arabic, latin, or glagolitic script when speaking OC Slavonic?

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/86/Glagolitsa_in_Zagreb_cathedral.jpg/1280px-Glagolitsa_in_Zagreb_cathedral.jpg

    Croatian Serbs seem to have the dialect closest to OCS.

    Croatian Serbs seem to have the dialect closest to OCS.

    Don’t tell a Bulgarian that. They claim to have sired the entire Slavic branch of IE.

  126. @tyrone
    Gov. moonbeam! get some motor coaches to Mexico there's still time for the caravan to vote!

    The funny thing is, Moonbeam is now the voice of reason out here.

    When the unctuous Gavin Newsom (no relation to the guy who released “The Gavin Belson signature box”) elides his way into the governor’s chair, Jerry Brown is going to look like Ronald Reagan.

  127. @Jack D
    Supposedly not true:

    https://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2018/jan/24/worldnetdaily/no-california-didnt-pass-law-allowing-undocumented/

    The US has legalized so many millions of D leaning immigrants that Cal. is overwhelmingly Democrat even without the benefit of illegal immigrant voters. Making an already deep blue state even bluer doesn't change electoral outcomes.

    They don’t have to vote. Illegals and legals merely have to reside there to be counted in the Census, and add to the state’s Congressional delegation.

    How many of California’s 51 seats are due to non-citizen residents? Is it up to six now?

    • Replies: @istevefan
    Maybe we can compromise on the census with regards to illegals. Clearly they are having a material impact on the census causing some states to lose congressional districts. I was thinking both sides could come together and come up with a plan. Let's say we will count illegals in the census, but we will only count them as 3/5ths of a person. That way both sides get something.
    , @RadicalCenter
    Unfortunately, I think California has fifty-three seats in the U.S. House of Representatives.

    Non-Citizen residents -- legal and illegal -- could even make up 20% of our State's population.
  128. @jim jones
    We are lucky that the Japanese gave up on invading the West:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhdQtwZDkGs

    I avoided watching this because I suspected the movei was about Nazis (but the blurb made me think someone grabbed William Gibson’s “Pattern Recognition” to flesh the story out) whereas PKD’s book is about Reality, common or personal.

    But that looks actually pretty cool.

    Although big-gun warships in the age of helicopters is anachronistic.

  129. Would it be wrong if Robert Bowers took the same stand in court as Emile Henry ? After all Henry was a hero of the left .

  130. @jim jones
    We are lucky that the Japanese gave up on invading the West:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhdQtwZDkGs

    We are lucky that the Japanese gave up on invading the West:

    No, they are lucky.

    They would probably lose. But an even worse outcome for them is possible– they might win.

    Good luck occupying Oakland.

    • Replies: @Forbes
    Like Rick Blaine's riposte in "Casablanca" about a few neighborhoods in New York he'd recommend the Germans avoid--should they get there...
  131. @proton
    You neglected Andamanese Steve. Try and be more sensitive.

    You neglected Andamanese Steve. Try and be more sensitive.

    Aren’t they Sentinelese now?

  132. @Lot
    Do you use the cyrillic, arabic, latin, or glagolitic script when speaking OC Slavonic?

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/86/Glagolitsa_in_Zagreb_cathedral.jpg/1280px-Glagolitsa_in_Zagreb_cathedral.jpg

    Croatian Serbs seem to have the dialect closest to OCS.

    OCS == Old Church Slavonic?

    Looks a bit like Angelic, a language useful for communicating with angels. Or so Heinrich Cornelius Agrippa says.

    Old Heinrich was an early Pussy Hat March Companion. From Jimbo’s fecund font of fantastique factoids:

    Agrippa’s academic career began in 1509, receiving the patronage Margaret of Austria, governor of Franche-Comté, and Antoine de Vergy, archbishop of Besançon and chancellor of the University of Dôle. He was given the opportunity to lecture a course at the University on Hebrew scholar Johann Reuchlin’s De verbo mirifico. At Dôle, Agrippa wrote De nobilitate et praecellentia foeminae sexus (On the Nobility and Excellence of the Feminine Sex), a work that tried to prove the superiority of women using cabalistic ideas. The book was probably intended to impress Margaret. Agrippa’s lectures received attention, and he was given a doctorate in theology because of them. He was, however, denounced by the Franciscan prior Jean Catilinet as a “Judaizing heretic”, and was forced to leave Dôle in 1510.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    This exchange makes me realise a proposition to add Reformed Egyptian Hieroglyphics [sic] can boost conservative votes in Mexinchifornia by drawing Mormons to the place – maybe even get it back to five per cent white people or so....
  133. @Jack D

    I don't think people are ready for the crisis that will follow if Democrats win the House popular vote but not the majority.
     
    , said no human being, ever. This has happened before without causing a crisis (1996, 2010) and will happen again.

    "House popular vote" is a statistical artifact that has no Constitutional relevance whatsoever. If Democrats and blacks all cluster together in big cities where they win by big margins, they are going to run up their popular vote total without getting any extra seats for it. It's like any other sport - if you win the baseball game 12-1 or 7-6, a win is a win and it doesn't create a "crisis" if the team at the top of the standings has a lot of 1 run victories while #2 has a lot of 10 run victories but has won fewer games overall.

    The popular vote nonsense is just preemptive sour grapes if the Dems don't manage to take control of the House.

    “House popular vote” is a statistical artifact that has no Constitutional relevance whatsoever.

    Just like the “presidential popular vote”. States decide who is qualified to vote (you can count the constitutional restrictions to that on one hand), and they decide differently. So combining votes, even if only for analysis, is inherently suspect.

    Don’t forget, too, that in many House races, the incumbent runs unopposed. So the “popular vote” would be as distorted as it was in the 1860 presidential election.

  134. @eah
    https://twitter.com/ezraklein/status/1059553661586567168

    After Kavanaugh, Trump, Garland, Citizens United, Bush v. Gore, etc, the party is on the edge of losing faith in the system

    Still with the Bush v. Gore??
    Oy vey!!
    Everybody knows Gore lost because he did not carry his “home” state of Tennessee and its 11 Electoral Votes.
    What a loser.
    Can Al Gore even find the place using Google maps?

  135. @jim jones
    We are lucky that the Japanese gave up on invading the West:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhdQtwZDkGs

    LOL . The Japs and the Brits resorted to Incendiary balloons .

  136. I voted for all the worst candidates I could find on today’s ballot. The sooner California goes down the tubes, the better.

  137. @Altai
    The 'real America', that didn't come into existence until the 1980s. Feels weird how America became a superpower 40 years before it existed, but economists are used to understanding the absurd.
  138. @Jack D
    Supposedly not true:

    https://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2018/jan/24/worldnetdaily/no-california-didnt-pass-law-allowing-undocumented/

    The US has legalized so many millions of D leaning immigrants that Cal. is overwhelmingly Democrat even without the benefit of illegal immigrant voters. Making an already deep blue state even bluer doesn't change electoral outcomes.

    Jack, I stand corrected, I thought I had read that at the San Francisco Chronicle.

  139. @Jack D
    Supposedly not true:

    https://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2018/jan/24/worldnetdaily/no-california-didnt-pass-law-allowing-undocumented/

    The US has legalized so many millions of D leaning immigrants that Cal. is overwhelmingly Democrat even without the benefit of illegal immigrant voters. Making an already deep blue state even bluer doesn't change electoral outcomes.

    >citing politifact
    Was this a garbling of automatically registering voters when they got a driver’s license?
    Nobody would flat out authorize illegal voting (they’d be inviting legal challenges before anything else happened), but there are a million effective legalizations, like one-way voter verification (I claim to be Jack D, and unless Jack D himself shows up and challenges this, it’s accepted).
    Let’s remember Trump branded a liar because he did not specify the exact technical process by which Hillary mishandled classified information.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    That sounds like a very dangerous game - if I try to vote as you and then you show up, the authorities may get involved, if I'm an illegal I may be deported, etc. Individual voters don't have that much to gain from voting (which is why so many people don't even bother). Is it really worth it to commit a crime when you get nothing out of it?

    If this was happening, you would think that people could point to a significant # of actual cases - do you know of any/many cases where a voter went to the polls and found that someone had already voted for him?

  140. @istevefan

    There are 26 states where the Republicans control both houses
     
    I understand as of today that is the scorecard. The GOP is sitting pretty. But gerrymandering has been a thing since the early 1800s. And after every census, districts get redrawn. I can't believe the GOP has controlled this many state legislatures for over a century and a half. Surely the democrats must have had their golden days when they controlled the district boundaries.

    It is interesting that I've only heard vociferous opposition to gerrymander since the last census. The media is all over it because it is costing democrats control. I recall hearing the term in my jr. high civics class, but the term was not toxic back then like it is now. My guess is that if democrats were benefiting from it, it wouldn't be an issue.

    Steve brought this up earlier and I think the GOP should bring it up again. Gerrymandering actually helps blacks get better representation in the House because it guarantees a black is going to be elected. After the last census, my suburban KC district was attached to an urban one and my vote is now meaningless because the black candidate will win, period.

    the term was not toxic back then like it is now

    It’s like the filibuster, a neutral control on centralization. The gerrymandered district map offends the same useless instinct of propriety which wouldn’t last an hour in a real courtroom. It’s like that one Star Trek episode where the proxying superpowers are giving muskets to Space Iroquois. The fake purity of objectivity would mean total concession to the party in power. This is a messy, ugly process, but it’s fair. Anyone familiar with the history of the great foundations and our government bureaucracies knows exactly what will happen to these supposedly objective citizen’s districting commissions. In the time it takes for them to assemble they wil be solidly leftist.

    • Replies: @istevefan
    Both parties want to shape districts which is natural. And the courts, I believe, forced states to help make black districts so that blacks could be in Congress. At 12 percent of the population, if blacks were spread equally in every district so that they comprised 12 percent of each congressional district, they would virtually never have an elected representative in Congress. So the courts wanted districts with big enough black percentages to ensure some blacks were elected.

    The problem is that the democrats want to gerrymander to get a district 51 percent black and then to use the extra blacks to flip a neighboring district. The GOP would just rather make a district 80 percent black and concede the point while preserving neighboring districts.

    So both parties want to play with the maps. But as usual the media's default bias is in favor of the democrats.
  141. @Jack D
    A lot of overwhelmingly Democrat districts are the result of Republican gerrymandering in the state legislatures. You stick all the Democrat voters in your states big cit(ies) into their own overwhelmingly Democrat districts and then all the other districts become competitive for the Republicans.

    The PA Supreme Ct overturned the PA scheme and designed a "fair" map of its own (to me a shocking abuse of judicial power) and the result is going to be the loss of several R seats. For example, my Super Zip suburban township which leans D was formerly attached to a safely D black district in West Philadelphia (our Congressman got set to jail for corruption). Now it is attached to a suburban district that is almost certainly going to go Democrat partly as a result. The sitting Republican Congressman from the old gerrymandered district resigned due to a sexual harassment scandal. He used government funds to pay her off and kept the settlement confidential but it came out. The level of corruption in PA government in both parties is shocking. The only safe thing seems to be to elect really rich guys so that they don't need to steal from the government to maintain their lifestyle.

    I’ve lived in 14 states the rottenest were Louisiana , Rhode Island , Massachusetts and Maryland .

  142. Anonymous[287] • Disclaimer says:
    @eah
    "the real America"

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrVdl1PWwAMYYcS.jpg

    Notice how this “Real America” argument only goes one way: rural white areas aren’t the “real America” because their racial demographics aren’t representative, but Detroit, Dearborn, East LA, and Hawaii are even less representative of America’s racial demographics but the media would never accuse these places of not being the “real America”.

  143. Dr Blowsy- Ford remembers all :

  144. Steve had this recent headline: “Democrats’ Bombshell Revelation of Dr. Prof. Christine Blasey Ford’s Corroborating Evidence Coming Up Real Soon Now … ”

    Shouldn’t that also apply to Robert Mueller’s investigation of Trump colluding with Putin to win the 2016 election? I thought if he found anything that would help the Democrats, however flimsy, he’d have dumped it about 10 days ago so it could be hyped up in the New York Times. It’s been a year and a half. So far, he’s produced nothing relevant to his supposed objective.

    • Replies: @Travis
    true, and the Obama FBI, DOJ , CIA was investigating Trump and the Russians for 30 months and have found no evidence of any Russian meddling.
  145. @istevefan

    1 in 3 black men are convicted felons, wow. If my math does not fail me, looks like 1 in 6 black women are felons too.
     
    This would also dispel the notion that 99 percent of blacks are law-abiding angels.

    Bear in mind that disenfranchisement of felons may be the only factor keeping Republicans viable in many jurisdictions/states.

    • Replies: @istevefan
    Do felons who lose their right to vote also lose their 2nd Amendment rights? If so, are leftists who argue that voting rights ought to be restored also suggesting the same with the 2A?
  146. Kerguelen Islands LOL

    The US should sent a frigate and perhaps one landing craft to take the Kerguelen Islands from the French. We could then use the islands as a penal colony/insane asylum for our excess multicultural criminals and malcontents, liberals and vagabonds. It would be so worth it!

  147. @Reg Cæsar
    They don't have to vote. Illegals and legals merely have to reside there to be counted in the Census, and add to the state's Congressional delegation.

    How many of California's 51 seats are due to non-citizen residents? Is it up to six now?

    Maybe we can compromise on the census with regards to illegals. Clearly they are having a material impact on the census causing some states to lose congressional districts. I was thinking both sides could come together and come up with a plan. Let’s say we will count illegals in the census, but we will only count them as 3/5ths of a person. That way both sides get something.

  148. @Ron Unz

    An amazing stat, if true: 1/3 of voting age black males in KY are convicted felons and therefore cannot vote
     
    Actually, it's really not so remarkable. Back a few years ago, The Sentencing Project, a liberal organization, estimated that *nationwide* roughly one-third of all black males are already convicted criminals by their 20s.

    Furthermore, I pointed out that the Census data indicates that that over one-quarter of adult black males in our three largest black population centers of New York City, Chicago, and Philadelphia are already dead or in prison:

    http://www.unz.com/runz/race-and-crime-in-america/#p_1_24

    the Census data indicates that that over one-quarter of adult black males in our three largest black population centers of New York City, Chicago, and Philadelphia are already dead or in prison

    Why is the Census counting the dead as part of a census of the adult black male population?

    This makes no sense. A census is a count at a particular time–end of month, end of year, April 1 national census day every decade ending in zero. What count of the dead would be relevant to that particular census? Why?

    • Replies: @Ron Unz

    Why is the Census counting the dead as part of a census of the adult black male population?

    This makes no sense.
     
    Sure. But by comparing the number of adult black males and adult black females, the Census reveals the number of "missing" males in each city. And the overwhelming majority of those "missing" males are probably dead or in prison...
  149. @Prof. Woland
    The last time I heard Richard Dawkins, Islamophilia, and being de platformed mentioned together was when KPFA abruptly cancelled a live radio show he was scheduled to do because of statements he had made about Islam. The way it happened would be comedic if it were not so real. Apparently his constant put downs of Christianity is ok but talking smack about the other two monotheistic religions is taboo (we know that). Once he was labeled "racist" and his comments about Islam were considered "hate speech" he became radioactive and was banished. Most people at KPFA probably agree with him but are as afraid of the mob they have helped to whip us as the rest of the left is in spite of all their bravado about "free speech". Free speech is dead on the left.

    https://kpfa.org/blog/statement-decision-cancel-richard-dawkins-event/

    Free speech is dead on the left.

    Ain’t it the truth.

    It’s depressing that Dawkins gets it exactly backwards. It’s Trump who’s sometimes silly. It’s the guys Dawkins dismisses as merely silly who are genuinely evil & dangerous.

    • Agree: Bubba, L Woods
  150. @Hippopotamusdrome
    OT

    Richard Dawkins: "Orange man bad"


    @RichardDawkins

    Dear US voters, don’t blame Dems for the excesses of the overzealous left. Those deplatformings, safe spaces, gender politics & Islamophilia are just silly. Trump is more than silly, he’s a seriously bad man: a liar, a dangerously unstable, bullying denier of scientific facts.

     

    Let me get this straight. Dems are silly, but Trump is more than silly. Okaaaay.

    If Trump’s a seriously bad man–conduct so obvious–why do Dems pound the table so…

  151. @t
    https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1059605251760754689

    Progressives need a strategy…because one local network affiliate had two news segments featuring notable people on the Right–and we can’t have that in America!

  152. Is this the election thread or will there be a separate one once polls close?
    ——–
    Your instructors today will be retired SEAL M. Trent, SWAT instructor Big Don, and Pastor Lloyd, who legally shot a man for harrasing his wife
    http://boards.4chan.org/k/thread/39643479

  153. @Lurker
    "His face is a fist magnet" is a variant I heard recently.

    I immediately thought of Justin Trudeau.

    You consider Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to have a punchable face?

    Your remark is deeply offensive to all persons with intellectual disabilities.

  154. @YetAnotherAnon
    OT - NYT explains how AfD voters in Germany are poor incels, unlike Merkel's "dynamic, determined and driven"(see Cologne for details) New Germans.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/05/world/europe/merkel-east-germany-nationalists-populism.html

    "After the wall came down, the East lost more than 10 percent of its population. Two-thirds of those who left and did not come back were young women.

    It was the most extreme case of female flight in Europe, said Reiner Klingholz, director of the Berlin Institute for Population and Development, who has studied the phenomenon. Only the Arctic Circle and a few islands off the coast of Turkey suffer comparable male-female imbalances.

    In large swaths of rural eastern Germany, men today still outnumber women, and the regions where the women disappeared map almost exactly onto the regions that vote for the Alternative for Germany today.

    “There is a gender element to the rise of the far right that is not sufficiently acknowledged and studied,” Mr. Klingholz said."
     

    In large swaths of rural eastern Germany, men today still outnumber women

    And China? What’s the demographic bulge? 20-30 million more males?

    Different cause, same outcome…

    • Replies: @L Woods
    The situation is actually much less dysfunctional in China than in the U.S. There may be a slight sex imbalance in China overall, but rampant obesity in America means that suitable women are grossly outnumbered in practice. Also, they don't have as much feminism/sexual liberation, which means less hypergamy, which means a much more equitable distribution, and less BS generally.
  155. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @istevefan

    There are 26 states where the Republicans control both houses
     
    I understand as of today that is the scorecard. The GOP is sitting pretty. But gerrymandering has been a thing since the early 1800s. And after every census, districts get redrawn. I can't believe the GOP has controlled this many state legislatures for over a century and a half. Surely the democrats must have had their golden days when they controlled the district boundaries.

    It is interesting that I've only heard vociferous opposition to gerrymander since the last census. The media is all over it because it is costing democrats control. I recall hearing the term in my jr. high civics class, but the term was not toxic back then like it is now. My guess is that if democrats were benefiting from it, it wouldn't be an issue.

    Steve brought this up earlier and I think the GOP should bring it up again. Gerrymandering actually helps blacks get better representation in the House because it guarantees a black is going to be elected. After the last census, my suburban KC district was attached to an urban one and my vote is now meaningless because the black candidate will win, period.

    It’s important to understand that blacks always vote as a bloc, in the manner in which they are told to, and so what matters is who does the telling-to and who, even more importantly, controls them.

    The direct managers of this are the local and national Black Big Men, but they in turn are controlled by ((others)). Jesse Jackson found that out when he correctly named who runs New York.

  156. @Unit472
    Others have commented before on the correlation between liberal run districts and vote tally snafus. Then there are ballot initiatives that clutter a ballot meant to elect candidates to fill federal offices.

    I notice whenever a federal judge is asked to keep pollls open it is in an area where blacks are voting. My guess it owes much to the lengthy ballot and low IQ voter who vote party line getting confused by all the amendments and propositions special interest groups put on GENERAL election ballots.

    My optical scanner-read paper ballot was four sided–both sides of two sheets longer than 8-1/2″ X 14″ legal paper size, with tiny print–probably 8 pt font for everything except the candidates name, which looked 14 pt.

    Extremely problematic for the elderly, or anyone without a magnifying glass…

  157. California’s Vote Counters Ready Their Clay Tablets and Abacuses

    Sigh, sigh. Abaci.

    Recent comment thereunder:

    In a school corridor, the Latin Club put up a sign, “Be a Roman – learn Latin!” Someone wrote underneath, “Be an educated Roman – learn Greek!”

  158. anon[246] • Disclaimer says:
    @istevefan
    Do you notice how the democrats conveniently ignore the nonwhite voter when bragging that their party is better educated?

    Assuming white democrats have on average a higher level of education than white republicans, certainly one cannot make that assumption about the overwhelming majority of black and hispanic voters, i.e. the democratic base. If anything those voters are among the least educated group in America. And given their rather large proportion of the democratic vote, they most certainly would have to bring the overall democratic education average down.

    Yet whites like Krugman conveniently ignore this and go on about how republicans are less educated. However, in the same tweet Krugman asserts that democrats are also the majority of the country. That might be true, but only because of those uneducated hordes that he conveniently leaves out of the discussion about educational attainment.

    Do you notice how the democrats conveniently ignore the nonwhite voter when bragging that their party is better educated?…Yet whites like Krugman conveniently ignore this and go on about how republicans are less educated

    Krugman and democrats are class snobs, and very simple-minded about education.
    They ignore that education often means indoctrination (in politics anyway) and can do as much harm as good.
    They ignore the basic idea of dem0cracy that the people who will have to live under a law should be the ones who make the law. The qualification to be a voter isn’t education, it is just the fact that I will be under the law’s jurisdiction.
    They ignore that politics is about power and interests, not just ideas. Krugman thinks he and his kind can’t be corrupted by power, and doesn’t believe high school graduates can see their own self interest.
    He only wants to de-legitimize voters he disagrees with. He wants to de-legitimize voters who have legitimate interests that are opposed to his interests.
    Krugman is a radically dishonest thinker.

  159. @Harry Baldwin
    Steve had this recent headline: "Democrats' Bombshell Revelation of Dr. Prof. Christine Blasey Ford's Corroborating Evidence Coming Up Real Soon Now ... "

    Shouldn't that also apply to Robert Mueller's investigation of Trump colluding with Putin to win the 2016 election? I thought if he found anything that would help the Democrats, however flimsy, he'd have dumped it about 10 days ago so it could be hyped up in the New York Times. It's been a year and a half. So far, he's produced nothing relevant to his supposed objective.

    true, and the Obama FBI, DOJ , CIA was investigating Trump and the Russians for 30 months and have found no evidence of any Russian meddling.

  160. @International Jew
    OT but what's with TV ad that was too "racist" even for Fox? Every news outlet is talking about it this morning, but I can't find the ad itself. Must have been a doozy...

    It was no more offensive than their ads for constipation, intestinal gas, adult diapers, vaginal yeast infections, tampons, hemorrhoids, erectile dysfunction, herpes, etc…

  161. @Reg Cæsar
    They don't have to vote. Illegals and legals merely have to reside there to be counted in the Census, and add to the state's Congressional delegation.

    How many of California's 51 seats are due to non-citizen residents? Is it up to six now?

    Unfortunately, I think California has fifty-three seats in the U.S. House of Representatives.

    Non-Citizen residents — legal and illegal — could even make up 20% of our State’s population.

  162. @Reg Cæsar

    We are lucky that the Japanese gave up on invading the West:
     
    No, they are lucky.

    They would probably lose. But an even worse outcome for them is possible-- they might win.

    Good luck occupying Oakland.

    Like Rick Blaine’s riposte in “Casablanca” about a few neighborhoods in New York he’d recommend the Germans avoid–should they get there…

  163. Congrats to Greg Pence!

    The first Dem pickup is the lovely Italian-American Jen Wexton, mother of two young half-Ashkenazi sons.

    BDS Democrat Leslie Cockburn is losing big time in an open tossup district. She is the sister in law or something to the Unz writer.

  164. @eah
    "the real America"

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrVdl1PWwAMYYcS.jpg

    His follow up tweet is vintage Kruggers:

    Wyoming has <600K people, 86% white, 24% with Bachelors degrees. New Jersey has 9 million people, 58% white, 35% with Bachelors. Each is electing one senator.

    Quelle horreur! These guys aren’t even hiding it anymore.

    • Replies: @istevefan
    Israel has a population of around 8 million and they have 1 vote in the UN General Assembly. Germany has 80 million and they have 1 vote in the UN General Assembly. Ditto for every nation large and small.

    Are these same guys who are bitching about the composition of the Senate also arguing that the UN should give a more weighted voting average too?

    , @Buffalo Joe
    Anonymous, contrary to what the Libs tells us you don't need a degree to herd cattle or mine for minerals...lot less student debt too.
  165. Immigration patriot Dave Brat looking like a probable loss by less than a quarter of a percent.

    :(

  166. @International Jew
    If the Dems succeed at giving the vote to ex-cons, they'll push to give the vote to current prisoners too. It'll be the next "civil rights" crusade.

    Jesse Jackson registered voters in jail, I think they were in pretrial detention.

  167. @Daniel H
    Bear in mind that disenfranchisement of felons may be the only factor keeping Republicans viable in many jurisdictions/states.

    Do felons who lose their right to vote also lose their 2nd Amendment rights? If so, are leftists who argue that voting rights ought to be restored also suggesting the same with the 2A?

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    U.S. District Court: Some Felons Do Have Second Amendment Rights

    "On Thursday, the United States District Court for the Southern District of Illinois held that some felons have the right to keep and bear arms. Larry Hatfield pled guilty to a non-violent felony 28 years ago and wants his Second Amendment rights back.

    "In his decision, Judge J. Phil Gilbrert wrote . . .

    " Plaintiff Larry Edward Hatfield wants to keep a gun in his home for self-defense. But the Government bans him from doing so, because 28 years ago, Hatfield lied on some forms that he sent to the Railroad Retirement Board: a felony in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1001(a). Hatfield later pled guilty to one count of violating the statute, an offense for which he received no prison time and a meager amount in restitution fees pursuant to a formal plea agreement with the Government.

    " Now, Hatfield brings this as-applied challenge to 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(1)—the statute that bans him from owning a gun—on the grounds that it violates his Second Amendment rights. Hatfield embeds his argument in United States v. Williams, 616 F.3d 685 , 692 (7th Cir. 2010), which instructed that “[the Supreme Court’s decision in D.C. v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008)] referred to felon disarmament bans only as ‘presumptively lawful,’ which, by implication, means that there must exist the possibility that the ban could be unconstitutional in the face of an as-applied challenge.” If there is any case that rebuts that presumption, it is this one. So for the following reasons, the Court GRANTS summary judgment in favor of Plaintiff Larry E. Hatfield.

    "Judge Gilbert didn’t have any kind words for the government’s argument in the case . . .

    " [T]he Government—instead of focusing on a narrow class of as-applied challengers—rests their position on the broad idea that since felons have shown a “manifest disregard for the rights of others,” the Government may immediately strip them of their Second Amendment rights. The Government seems to think this is the case even if they cut a plea deal with the felon that recommended zero days in prison, like they did with Hatfield.

    " It is absolutely impossible to reconcile the Government’s positions here that (1) a specific felon is so harmless that the felon does not need to go to prison for their felony conviction, but also (2) the felon is so dangerous that they should be stripped of their right to own a gun and defend their home. This type of logical inconsistency shows that the Government is not taking the Second Amendment seriously. The Second Amendment has to mean something as a matter of law, policy debates aside. Overbroad policies ignoring a constitutional amendment are inexcusable.

    https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2018/04/dean-weingarten/u-s-district-court-some-felons-do-have-second-amendment-rights/
    , @Harry Baldwin
    Do felons who lose their right to vote also lose their 2nd Amendment rights?

    When you fill out the forms necessary to legally purchase a firearms, you have to declare that you are not a convicted felon or under any restraining order.
    , @J.Ross
    You can pay a lawyer to have your record cleaned up if everything is resolved and they don't think you're a danger. I don't know what the exact term is.
  168. @J.Ross
    the term was not toxic back then like it is now

    It's like the filibuster, a neutral control on centralization. The gerrymandered district map offends the same useless instinct of propriety which wouldn't last an hour in a real courtroom. It's like that one Star Trek episode where the proxying superpowers are giving muskets to Space Iroquois. The fake purity of objectivity would mean total concession to the party in power. This is a messy, ugly process, but it's fair. Anyone familiar with the history of the great foundations and our government bureaucracies knows exactly what will happen to these supposedly objective citizen's districting commissions. In the time it takes for them to assemble they wil be solidly leftist.

    Both parties want to shape districts which is natural. And the courts, I believe, forced states to help make black districts so that blacks could be in Congress. At 12 percent of the population, if blacks were spread equally in every district so that they comprised 12 percent of each congressional district, they would virtually never have an elected representative in Congress. So the courts wanted districts with big enough black percentages to ensure some blacks were elected.

    The problem is that the democrats want to gerrymander to get a district 51 percent black and then to use the extra blacks to flip a neighboring district. The GOP would just rather make a district 80 percent black and concede the point while preserving neighboring districts.

    So both parties want to play with the maps. But as usual the media’s default bias is in favor of the democrats.

  169. Wild trading on predictit on a GOP house contract. The day started at 30%, dipped to 15%, now is at 50%.

    I exited my GOP House short around 15, now reentering at 50.

    The main trend so far seems to be urban/inner suburb Trump voters saving the GOP day. Dems are doing fairly well in rural and small town areas. Donnelly ran 10-12 points ahead of Hillary in rural Indiana, but Marion by only 3 so far.

  170. @Forbes

    In large swaths of rural eastern Germany, men today still outnumber women
     
    And China? What's the demographic bulge? 20-30 million more males?

    Different cause, same outcome...

    The situation is actually much less dysfunctional in China than in the U.S. There may be a slight sex imbalance in China overall, but rampant obesity in America means that suitable women are grossly outnumbered in practice. Also, they don’t have as much feminism/sexual liberation, which means less hypergamy, which means a much more equitable distribution, and less BS generally.

  171. @J.Ross
    >citing politifact
    Was this a garbling of automatically registering voters when they got a driver's license?
    Nobody would flat out authorize illegal voting (they'd be inviting legal challenges before anything else happened), but there are a million effective legalizations, like one-way voter verification (I claim to be Jack D, and unless Jack D himself shows up and challenges this, it's accepted).
    Let's remember Trump branded a liar because he did not specify the exact technical process by which Hillary mishandled classified information.

    That sounds like a very dangerous game – if I try to vote as you and then you show up, the authorities may get involved, if I’m an illegal I may be deported, etc. Individual voters don’t have that much to gain from voting (which is why so many people don’t even bother). Is it really worth it to commit a crime when you get nothing out of it?

    If this was happening, you would think that people could point to a significant # of actual cases – do you know of any/many cases where a voter went to the polls and found that someone had already voted for him?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    It would be a dangerous game if thirty per cent turnout was not considered record-breaking.
  172. Looking on the bright side of life, one of the interpreters at my polling place was very attractive. Unfortunately, I didn’t require the services that she offered.

    My vote here is piss in the wind. But what really bugs me is that they declined my offer of any ID. Any person could have claimed to be me and voted, without any documentation.

    BTW, why do leftists feel that gentrification is evil at the neighborhood level, but desirable at the state and national levels?

  173. @istevefan
    Do felons who lose their right to vote also lose their 2nd Amendment rights? If so, are leftists who argue that voting rights ought to be restored also suggesting the same with the 2A?

    U.S. District Court: Some Felons Do Have Second Amendment Rights

    “On Thursday, the United States District Court for the Southern District of Illinois held that some felons have the right to keep and bear arms. Larry Hatfield pled guilty to a non-violent felony 28 years ago and wants his Second Amendment rights back.

    “In his decision, Judge J. Phil Gilbrert wrote . . .

    ” Plaintiff Larry Edward Hatfield wants to keep a gun in his home for self-defense. But the Government bans him from doing so, because 28 years ago, Hatfield lied on some forms that he sent to the Railroad Retirement Board: a felony in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1001(a). Hatfield later pled guilty to one count of violating the statute, an offense for which he received no prison time and a meager amount in restitution fees pursuant to a formal plea agreement with the Government.

    ” Now, Hatfield brings this as-applied challenge to 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(1)—the statute that bans him from owning a gun—on the grounds that it violates his Second Amendment rights. Hatfield embeds his argument in United States v. Williams, 616 F.3d 685 , 692 (7th Cir. 2010), which instructed that “[the Supreme Court’s decision in D.C. v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008)] referred to felon disarmament bans only as ‘presumptively lawful,’ which, by implication, means that there must exist the possibility that the ban could be unconstitutional in the face of an as-applied challenge.” If there is any case that rebuts that presumption, it is this one. So for the following reasons, the Court GRANTS summary judgment in favor of Plaintiff Larry E. Hatfield.

    “Judge Gilbert didn’t have any kind words for the government’s argument in the case . . .

    ” [T]he Government—instead of focusing on a narrow class of as-applied challengers—rests their position on the broad idea that since felons have shown a “manifest disregard for the rights of others,” the Government may immediately strip them of their Second Amendment rights. The Government seems to think this is the case even if they cut a plea deal with the felon that recommended zero days in prison, like they did with Hatfield.

    ” It is absolutely impossible to reconcile the Government’s positions here that (1) a specific felon is so harmless that the felon does not need to go to prison for their felony conviction, but also (2) the felon is so dangerous that they should be stripped of their right to own a gun and defend their home. This type of logical inconsistency shows that the Government is not taking the Second Amendment seriously. The Second Amendment has to mean something as a matter of law, policy debates aside. Overbroad policies ignoring a constitutional amendment are inexcusable.

    https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2018/04/dean-weingarten/u-s-district-court-some-felons-do-have-second-amendment-rights/

    • Replies: @istevefan
    thanks
  174. @L Woods
    Are we though?

    Are we though?

    Bataan Death March ring any bells for you?

  175. @Anonymous
    His follow up tweet is vintage Kruggers:

    Wyoming has <600K people, 86% white, 24% with Bachelors degrees. New Jersey has 9 million people, 58% white, 35% with Bachelors. Each is electing one senator.
     
    Quelle horreur! These guys aren't even hiding it anymore.

    Israel has a population of around 8 million and they have 1 vote in the UN General Assembly. Germany has 80 million and they have 1 vote in the UN General Assembly. Ditto for every nation large and small.

    Are these same guys who are bitching about the composition of the Senate also arguing that the UN should give a more weighted voting average too?

  176. @istevefan
    Do felons who lose their right to vote also lose their 2nd Amendment rights? If so, are leftists who argue that voting rights ought to be restored also suggesting the same with the 2A?

    Do felons who lose their right to vote also lose their 2nd Amendment rights?

    When you fill out the forms necessary to legally purchase a firearms, you have to declare that you are not a convicted felon or under any restraining order.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Removal of voting rights is generally a state matter, even when voting for federal office, but firearms is under the Federal NFA and GCA and all felons are proscribed from firearms ownership unless presidentially pardoned or in some cases they can file a "relief from firearms disability" request: however;

    Is there a way for a prohibited person to restore his or her right to receive or possess firearms and ammunition?

    Although Federal law provides a means for the relief of firearms disabilities, since October 1992, ATF’s annual appropriation has prohibited the expending of any funds to investigate or act upon applications for relief from Federal firearms disabilities submitted by individuals. As long as this provision is included in current ATF appropriations, the Bureau cannot act upon applications for relief from Federal firearms disabilities submitted by individuals.

    [18 U.S.C. 925(c); 27 CFR 478.144]
     
    Therefore:


    If a person has been convicted of a disabling offense, is there a means other than relief to have firearms rights restored?

    Persons convicted of a Federal offense may apply for a Presidential pardon. 28 CFR Part I specifies the rules governing petitions for obtaining Presidential pardons. You may contact the Pardon Attorney’s Office at the U.S. Department of Justice, Washington, DC, to inquire about the procedures for obtaining a Presidential pardon.

    Persons convicted of a State offense may contact the State Attorney General’s Office in the State of their conviction for information concerning the availability of expungements, set asides, pardons and civil rights restoration.

    [18 U.S.C. 921(a)(20) and (a)(33); 27 CFR 478.11 and 478.142]

     

    https://www.atf.gov/qa-category/general


    It should be stated that while any white caught violating this can count on being federally prosecuted and doing a five year sentence, the law is rarely enforced against blacks except as a way of putting known killers or drug dealers away under other pretenses (i.e., a federal trial likely giving a mixed race and upscale jury vs. an all black or black/mestizo jury in state court considered likely to nullify and/or scared of the gang the defendant belongs to). As a general rule, all blacks except those under especially stringent parole or probation supervision , or a subset of upscale blacks buying into liberal norms and living in nonblack areas, have guns. Does not mean they will support the Second Amendment or gun rights or the NRA. They figure they will always be able to get a gun, which of course is true, unless America turns into Singapore 2.0.
  177. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar
    Are the speakers of Mixtec even literate? Do they need live interpreters?

    Indeed, two interpreters? One from Mixtec into Spanish, and one for Spanish into English.

    Many Mexicans do not even speak Spanish, and many more are not functionally literate in it or any other language.

    Of course, they are usually the dumbest and brownest Mexicans.

    We should have “American English” be declared our official language by constitutional amendment and no person allowed to exercise any privilege, duty or responsibility of citizenship in any other language.

  178. @Joe Stalin
    U.S. District Court: Some Felons Do Have Second Amendment Rights

    "On Thursday, the United States District Court for the Southern District of Illinois held that some felons have the right to keep and bear arms. Larry Hatfield pled guilty to a non-violent felony 28 years ago and wants his Second Amendment rights back.

    "In his decision, Judge J. Phil Gilbrert wrote . . .

    " Plaintiff Larry Edward Hatfield wants to keep a gun in his home for self-defense. But the Government bans him from doing so, because 28 years ago, Hatfield lied on some forms that he sent to the Railroad Retirement Board: a felony in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1001(a). Hatfield later pled guilty to one count of violating the statute, an offense for which he received no prison time and a meager amount in restitution fees pursuant to a formal plea agreement with the Government.

    " Now, Hatfield brings this as-applied challenge to 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(1)—the statute that bans him from owning a gun—on the grounds that it violates his Second Amendment rights. Hatfield embeds his argument in United States v. Williams, 616 F.3d 685 , 692 (7th Cir. 2010), which instructed that “[the Supreme Court’s decision in D.C. v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008)] referred to felon disarmament bans only as ‘presumptively lawful,’ which, by implication, means that there must exist the possibility that the ban could be unconstitutional in the face of an as-applied challenge.” If there is any case that rebuts that presumption, it is this one. So for the following reasons, the Court GRANTS summary judgment in favor of Plaintiff Larry E. Hatfield.

    "Judge Gilbert didn’t have any kind words for the government’s argument in the case . . .

    " [T]he Government—instead of focusing on a narrow class of as-applied challengers—rests their position on the broad idea that since felons have shown a “manifest disregard for the rights of others,” the Government may immediately strip them of their Second Amendment rights. The Government seems to think this is the case even if they cut a plea deal with the felon that recommended zero days in prison, like they did with Hatfield.

    " It is absolutely impossible to reconcile the Government’s positions here that (1) a specific felon is so harmless that the felon does not need to go to prison for their felony conviction, but also (2) the felon is so dangerous that they should be stripped of their right to own a gun and defend their home. This type of logical inconsistency shows that the Government is not taking the Second Amendment seriously. The Second Amendment has to mean something as a matter of law, policy debates aside. Overbroad policies ignoring a constitutional amendment are inexcusable.

    https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2018/04/dean-weingarten/u-s-district-court-some-felons-do-have-second-amendment-rights/

    thanks

  179. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    Do felons who lose their right to vote also lose their 2nd Amendment rights?

    When you fill out the forms necessary to legally purchase a firearms, you have to declare that you are not a convicted felon or under any restraining order.

    Removal of voting rights is generally a state matter, even when voting for federal office, but firearms is under the Federal NFA and GCA and all felons are proscribed from firearms ownership unless presidentially pardoned or in some cases they can file a “relief from firearms disability” request: however;

    Is there a way for a prohibited person to restore his or her right to receive or possess firearms and ammunition?

    Although Federal law provides a means for the relief of firearms disabilities, since October 1992, ATF’s annual appropriation has prohibited the expending of any funds to investigate or act upon applications for relief from Federal firearms disabilities submitted by individuals. As long as this provision is included in current ATF appropriations, the Bureau cannot act upon applications for relief from Federal firearms disabilities submitted by individuals.

    [18 U.S.C. 925(c); 27 CFR 478.144]

    Therefore:

    If a person has been convicted of a disabling offense, is there a means other than relief to have firearms rights restored?

    Persons convicted of a Federal offense may apply for a Presidential pardon. 28 CFR Part I specifies the rules governing petitions for obtaining Presidential pardons. You may contact the Pardon Attorney’s Office at the U.S. Department of Justice, Washington, DC, to inquire about the procedures for obtaining a Presidential pardon.

    Persons convicted of a State offense may contact the State Attorney General’s Office in the State of their conviction for information concerning the availability of expungements, set asides, pardons and civil rights restoration.

    [18 U.S.C. 921(a)(20) and (a)(33); 27 CFR 478.11 and 478.142]

    https://www.atf.gov/qa-category/general

    It should be stated that while any white caught violating this can count on being federally prosecuted and doing a five year sentence, the law is rarely enforced against blacks except as a way of putting known killers or drug dealers away under other pretenses (i.e., a federal trial likely giving a mixed race and upscale jury vs. an all black or black/mestizo jury in state court considered likely to nullify and/or scared of the gang the defendant belongs to). As a general rule, all blacks except those under especially stringent parole or probation supervision , or a subset of upscale blacks buying into liberal norms and living in nonblack areas, have guns. Does not mean they will support the Second Amendment or gun rights or the NRA. They figure they will always be able to get a gun, which of course is true, unless America turns into Singapore 2.0.

  180. @Jack D
    That sounds like a very dangerous game - if I try to vote as you and then you show up, the authorities may get involved, if I'm an illegal I may be deported, etc. Individual voters don't have that much to gain from voting (which is why so many people don't even bother). Is it really worth it to commit a crime when you get nothing out of it?

    If this was happening, you would think that people could point to a significant # of actual cases - do you know of any/many cases where a voter went to the polls and found that someone had already voted for him?

    It would be a dangerous game if thirty per cent turnout was not considered record-breaking.

  181. @istevefan
    Do felons who lose their right to vote also lose their 2nd Amendment rights? If so, are leftists who argue that voting rights ought to be restored also suggesting the same with the 2A?

    You can pay a lawyer to have your record cleaned up if everything is resolved and they don’t think you’re a danger. I don’t know what the exact term is.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Expungement?
  182. @Hippopotamusdrome
    OT

    Richard Dawkins: "Orange man bad"


    @RichardDawkins

    Dear US voters, don’t blame Dems for the excesses of the overzealous left. Those deplatformings, safe spaces, gender politics & Islamophilia are just silly. Trump is more than silly, he’s a seriously bad man: a liar, a dangerously unstable, bullying denier of scientific facts.

     

    This “Science” word is funny. Sometimes you imbeciles are all for it, and abusive of anybody who is skeptical of the all-knowing omniscience of this “Science” thing, whatever they mean by it, expecially when it “proves” one of your most atavistic prejudices.

    And then sometimes you are all against it, like in this instance, when some goofy English atheist liberal scientist champions it.

    You aren’t even hypocrites. You are too stupid to know when you contradict yourselves.

  183. I love it. Now you imbeciles are in favor of gerrymandering. I love it. What kind of imbecile is in favor of gerrymandering? . . .

    Oh, yeah, I get it. You would be against it if being against it helped the troglodyte candidates you support.

    Real consistent. You’re not hypocrites or anything.

    Here is a news flash. They are all crooked. The ones you like and the ones you hate. Equally. The US is an equal opportunity Graft Provider.

    Ending gerrymandering might not be the solution to everything since sliced bread.

    But only people with crossed eyes spinning around in their heads support it.

  184. Citizens who have paid their debt to society should be allowed to vote. Not until, but immediately thereafter.

    Of course. Nothing else is arguable. Only sociopaths oppose this self-evident truth.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    Citizens who have paid their debt to society should be allowed to vote. Not until, but immediately thereafter.

    Of course. Nothing else is arguable. Only sociopaths oppose this self-evident truth.
     
    Historically, being convicted of a felony, or a "crime of moral turpitude" has always had lifetime consequences. One was not employable in a job of fiduciary responsibility, not allowed to vote, and generally regarded as suspect for the rest of one's life.

    The exact details mostly varied by state to state and business to business. You weren't going to get a job at a bank, for instance. But if you were a skilled laborer no one cared all that much.

    Do-gooders started expanding these restrictions sometime after WWII. Now they are wanting to get rid of much of this because blacks are differentially convicted at such a high rate. Except where it 'matters', e.g, guns.
    , @L Woods
    In principle I actually agree with you. In practice though, I don’t want more democrats voting, so...
  185. @eah
    https://twitter.com/ezraklein/status/1059553661586567168

    • Agree: eah
  186. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @obwandiyag
    Citizens who have paid their debt to society should be allowed to vote. Not until, but immediately thereafter.

    Of course. Nothing else is arguable. Only sociopaths oppose this self-evident truth.

    Citizens who have paid their debt to society should be allowed to vote. Not until, but immediately thereafter.

    Of course. Nothing else is arguable. Only sociopaths oppose this self-evident truth.

    Historically, being convicted of a felony, or a “crime of moral turpitude” has always had lifetime consequences. One was not employable in a job of fiduciary responsibility, not allowed to vote, and generally regarded as suspect for the rest of one’s life.

    The exact details mostly varied by state to state and business to business. You weren’t going to get a job at a bank, for instance. But if you were a skilled laborer no one cared all that much.

    Do-gooders started expanding these restrictions sometime after WWII. Now they are wanting to get rid of much of this because blacks are differentially convicted at such a high rate. Except where it ‘matters’, e.g, guns.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Off hand, I'd say that murderers should only get their vote back when their murder victim comes back to life and resumes voting.
    , @obwandiyag
    Sociopath.
  187. @J.Ross
    You can pay a lawyer to have your record cleaned up if everything is resolved and they don't think you're a danger. I don't know what the exact term is.

    Expungement?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    That's the word. But the main thing is talk to a pro-gun lawyer. I assume that, say, anything domestic abusey means you shouldn't even ask, and anything nonviolent is okay, but I'm not a lawyer, and it may also vary by location.
  188. @Anonymous

    Citizens who have paid their debt to society should be allowed to vote. Not until, but immediately thereafter.

    Of course. Nothing else is arguable. Only sociopaths oppose this self-evident truth.
     
    Historically, being convicted of a felony, or a "crime of moral turpitude" has always had lifetime consequences. One was not employable in a job of fiduciary responsibility, not allowed to vote, and generally regarded as suspect for the rest of one's life.

    The exact details mostly varied by state to state and business to business. You weren't going to get a job at a bank, for instance. But if you were a skilled laborer no one cared all that much.

    Do-gooders started expanding these restrictions sometime after WWII. Now they are wanting to get rid of much of this because blacks are differentially convicted at such a high rate. Except where it 'matters', e.g, guns.

    Off hand, I’d say that murderers should only get their vote back when their murder victim comes back to life and resumes voting.

    • Replies: @eah
    I'm not 100% opposed/closed to some discussion of amelioration -- eg for selected kinds of felonies, if they are released, find jobs, and agree to wage garnishment in order to start paying back the costs of their criminality, then after some time has passed/amount of money has been paid they can get part of their voting rights back etc.

    People who say things like 'Once they've paid their debt to society...' are absurd -- their criminality costs society a LOT of money: for the extra police, trial, in most cases a public defender, incarceration, then probation -- just to name the obvious direct costs (and not the indirect, eg the economic 'opportunity cost' of so many prime working age men in prison rather than in the workforce).

    I just don't want to be guilt-tripped about it.

    , @L Woods
    A not-infrequent occurrence in many blue precincts I’m sure.
    , @obwandiyag
    Especially the innocent ones.
    , @obwandiyag
    And marijuana smokers jailed for 10 years only get it back when the smoke comes back up out of their lungs. Logical. Makes sense.

    War protesters when the war ends.

    People shot by cops when, oh, oops, never.

    PS You forgot to mention that blacks are inferior.
  189. @Anonymous
    Expungement?

    That’s the word. But the main thing is talk to a pro-gun lawyer. I assume that, say, anything domestic abusey means you shouldn’t even ask, and anything nonviolent is okay, but I’m not a lawyer, and it may also vary by location.

  190. @Ron Unz

    An amazing stat, if true: 1/3 of voting age black males in KY are convicted felons and therefore cannot vote
     
    Actually, it's really not so remarkable. Back a few years ago, The Sentencing Project, a liberal organization, estimated that *nationwide* roughly one-third of all black males are already convicted criminals by their 20s.

    Furthermore, I pointed out that the Census data indicates that that over one-quarter of adult black males in our three largest black population centers of New York City, Chicago, and Philadelphia are already dead or in prison:

    http://www.unz.com/runz/race-and-crime-in-america/#p_1_24

    Amazing for people in what is supposed to be a civilized, first world country.

  191. @Steve Sailer
    Off hand, I'd say that murderers should only get their vote back when their murder victim comes back to life and resumes voting.

    I’m not 100% opposed/closed to some discussion of amelioration — eg for selected kinds of felonies, if they are released, find jobs, and agree to wage garnishment in order to start paying back the costs of their criminality, then after some time has passed/amount of money has been paid they can get part of their voting rights back etc.

    People who say things like ‘Once they’ve paid their debt to society…’ are absurd — their criminality costs society a LOT of money: for the extra police, trial, in most cases a public defender, incarceration, then probation — just to name the obvious direct costs (and not the indirect, eg the economic ‘opportunity cost’ of so many prime working age men in prison rather than in the workforce).

    I just don’t want to be guilt-tripped about it.

  192. @Forbes

    the Census data indicates that that over one-quarter of adult black males in our three largest black population centers of New York City, Chicago, and Philadelphia are already dead or in prison
     
    Why is the Census counting the dead as part of a census of the adult black male population?

    This makes no sense. A census is a count at a particular time--end of month, end of year, April 1 national census day every decade ending in zero. What count of the dead would be relevant to that particular census? Why?

    Why is the Census counting the dead as part of a census of the adult black male population?

    This makes no sense.

    Sure. But by comparing the number of adult black males and adult black females, the Census reveals the number of “missing” males in each city. And the overwhelming majority of those “missing” males are probably dead or in prison…

    • Replies: @Forbes
    I see what you're saying, what the "study" is implying--but if the "missing" males are in prison--well, they're just somewhere else. In other words, we know exactly where they are--locked up.

    The use of the term "missing" is rhetorical, to imply a mystery, an unknowing, inexplicable circumstance or situation, when in truth, it is known--commit the crime, do the time.

    But it also means some of the "missing" males could've moved elsewhere, i.e. for jobs and opportunity, and to get away from the inner city influence of crime and drugs and idleness.

    Prison or dead is not exhaustive of the explanation for an imbalance of black males and females in particular cities. It strikes me as a lazy analysis with an agenda.

    I don't know what overwhelming majority means--compared to what? When a small minority of the population (blacks) commits violent crimes at 6-8x the rate that whites do, then there's going to be a sex imbalance among blacks in the city, violent crime being ~90% committed by males. And those involved in violent crime have a truncated life expectancy.
  193. To this day your funniest piece ever; thanks for reminding us of it.

    I think HTML5 is now on the list, to accommodate all the rapefugees with smartphones, don’t ya know.

  194. @El Dato
    OCS == Old Church Slavonic?

    Looks a bit like Angelic, a language useful for communicating with angels. Or so Heinrich Cornelius Agrippa says.

    Old Heinrich was an early Pussy Hat March Companion. From Jimbo's fecund font of fantastique factoids:

    Agrippa's academic career began in 1509, receiving the patronage Margaret of Austria, governor of Franche-Comté, and Antoine de Vergy, archbishop of Besançon and chancellor of the University of Dôle. He was given the opportunity to lecture a course at the University on Hebrew scholar Johann Reuchlin's De verbo mirifico. At Dôle, Agrippa wrote De nobilitate et praecellentia foeminae sexus (On the Nobility and Excellence of the Feminine Sex), a work that tried to prove the superiority of women using cabalistic ideas. The book was probably intended to impress Margaret. Agrippa’s lectures received attention, and he was given a doctorate in theology because of them. He was, however, denounced by the Franciscan prior Jean Catilinet as a "Judaizing heretic", and was forced to leave Dôle in 1510.
     

    This exchange makes me realise a proposition to add Reformed Egyptian Hieroglyphics [sic] can boost conservative votes in Mexinchifornia by drawing Mormons to the place – maybe even get it back to five per cent white people or so….

  195. @eah
    An amazing stat, if true: 1/3 of voting age black males in KY are convicted felons and therefore cannot vote -- sorry, but I refuse to regard this as my or America's problem -- and the media will spin this in a way that hinders people from drawing the most relevant conclusions/asking the most pertinent questions, eg 'What kind of a country would it be if it were full of black men?' -- same as some years ago when it was mooted that more young black men were incarcerated than attending university.

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1059283120200077314
  196. “LOL”

  197. @Buffalo Joe
    Jack , Thank you. I think you used to be allowed to take an "assistant" into the voting booth with you. I saw people helping older voters with their paper ballots when I voted this morning. Big turn out, almost like when they tried to raise our local school budget by 10%.

    I saw an older Hispanic man being led into the polling place on election day. It seems that he wanted to register for voting that day. The registration electronic machine was down but the registration would be conducted manually. I overheard part of that conversation. It seems that the man did not have an address and could not speak English. Don’t know the results of the registration but these are some of our new diverse voters.

    Also, an old woman wanted insert the two paper ballots into the machine at the same time. The attendant told her that the paper ballots needed to be inserted one at a time.

    These are some of our new diverse voters.

    Lucky that there is no simple quick IQ test to administer because I’m sure about 25 % of voters would be disqualified.

  198. @obwandiyag
    Citizens who have paid their debt to society should be allowed to vote. Not until, but immediately thereafter.

    Of course. Nothing else is arguable. Only sociopaths oppose this self-evident truth.

    In principle I actually agree with you. In practice though, I don’t want more democrats voting, so…

  199. @Steve Sailer
    Off hand, I'd say that murderers should only get their vote back when their murder victim comes back to life and resumes voting.

    A not-infrequent occurrence in many blue precincts I’m sure.

  200. @Anonymous

    Citizens who have paid their debt to society should be allowed to vote. Not until, but immediately thereafter.

    Of course. Nothing else is arguable. Only sociopaths oppose this self-evident truth.
     
    Historically, being convicted of a felony, or a "crime of moral turpitude" has always had lifetime consequences. One was not employable in a job of fiduciary responsibility, not allowed to vote, and generally regarded as suspect for the rest of one's life.

    The exact details mostly varied by state to state and business to business. You weren't going to get a job at a bank, for instance. But if you were a skilled laborer no one cared all that much.

    Do-gooders started expanding these restrictions sometime after WWII. Now they are wanting to get rid of much of this because blacks are differentially convicted at such a high rate. Except where it 'matters', e.g, guns.

    Sociopath.

  201. @Steve Sailer
    Off hand, I'd say that murderers should only get their vote back when their murder victim comes back to life and resumes voting.

    Especially the innocent ones.

  202. @Steve Sailer
    Off hand, I'd say that murderers should only get their vote back when their murder victim comes back to life and resumes voting.

    And marijuana smokers jailed for 10 years only get it back when the smoke comes back up out of their lungs. Logical. Makes sense.

    War protesters when the war ends.

    People shot by cops when, oh, oops, never.

    PS You forgot to mention that blacks are inferior.

    • Replies: @fredyetagain aka superhonky
    "PS You forgot to mention that blacks are inferior"

    Please allow me to remedy our host's oversight: Blacks are inferior. Glad to have cleared that up for you mr. oogaboogayag.
  203. @Anonymous
    His follow up tweet is vintage Kruggers:

    Wyoming has <600K people, 86% white, 24% with Bachelors degrees. New Jersey has 9 million people, 58% white, 35% with Bachelors. Each is electing one senator.
     
    Quelle horreur! These guys aren't even hiding it anymore.

    Anonymous, contrary to what the Libs tells us you don’t need a degree to herd cattle or mine for minerals…lot less student debt too.

  204. @obwandiyag
    And marijuana smokers jailed for 10 years only get it back when the smoke comes back up out of their lungs. Logical. Makes sense.

    War protesters when the war ends.

    People shot by cops when, oh, oops, never.

    PS You forgot to mention that blacks are inferior.

    “PS You forgot to mention that blacks are inferior”

    Please allow me to remedy our host’s oversight: Blacks are inferior. Glad to have cleared that up for you mr. oogaboogayag.

  205. @Charles Pewitt
    The GOP was wiped out in California because of the 1965 Immigration Act and the 1986 amnesty for illegal alien invaders.

    I asked Jebby Bush about California and immigration at a presidential primary town hall in 2015.

    I was distracted by a baby boomer Jebby Bush supporter while I was asking the question, but I managed to get the basic parts of my question through. This baby boomer bastard started talking right in my ear and I mistakenly said Ted Cruz's name twice, and in the wrong manner.

    That kind of stuff happens at presidential primary town halls, and it was my fault to allow it to somewhat bungle my question.

    Portions of my question and mini-speech to Jebby Bush:

    We know out in California the GOP has been pretty much wiped out statewide because of the 1965 Immigration Act and the 1986 amnesty for illegal alien invaders.

    Other people within the Republican Party are going to the Jeff Sessions idea which is to reduce immigration to boost wages.

    How do you think your message is going to sell knowing what we know about California's example of getting wiped out because of mass immigration?

    Bush responded by deflecting the question about California and by saying he wants more aspirational immigrants in the United States.

    California Question on GOP and Immigration at 48:45 in video:

    Tweet from 2015:

    https://twitter.com/CharlesPewitt/status/629711323287396352

    Actually, I thought the Korean Young Kim and Mimi Walters had defeated the Democratics but then I read they still 400,000 voted in count in Orange County. Our problem is the upper Midwest states are still going back and forth between the Republicans. Michigan tht wenf for the Dems for governor and senate on election day.. Texas is still more Republican than Ohio, but on the other hand, Cruz only beat O’Rourke by 3 percent. You would think that this was a result for Michigan and not Texas.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    I thought Young Kim was a rapper?
  206. @cynthia curran
    Actually, I thought the Korean Young Kim and Mimi Walters had defeated the Democratics but then I read they still 400,000 voted in count in Orange County. Our problem is the upper Midwest states are still going back and forth between the Republicans. Michigan tht wenf for the Dems for governor and senate on election day.. Texas is still more Republican than Ohio, but on the other hand, Cruz only beat O'Rourke by 3 percent. You would think that this was a result for Michigan and not Texas.

    I thought Young Kim was a rapper?

  207. @Ron Unz

    An amazing stat, if true: 1/3 of voting age black males in KY are convicted felons and therefore cannot vote
     
    Actually, it's really not so remarkable. Back a few years ago, The Sentencing Project, a liberal organization, estimated that *nationwide* roughly one-third of all black males are already convicted criminals by their 20s.

    Furthermore, I pointed out that the Census data indicates that that over one-quarter of adult black males in our three largest black population centers of New York City, Chicago, and Philadelphia are already dead or in prison:

    http://www.unz.com/runz/race-and-crime-in-america/#p_1_24

    As impressive as it is depressing. But thanks nonetheless.

  208. @Ron Unz

    Why is the Census counting the dead as part of a census of the adult black male population?

    This makes no sense.
     
    Sure. But by comparing the number of adult black males and adult black females, the Census reveals the number of "missing" males in each city. And the overwhelming majority of those "missing" males are probably dead or in prison...

    I see what you’re saying, what the “study” is implying–but if the “missing” males are in prison–well, they’re just somewhere else. In other words, we know exactly where they are–locked up.

    The use of the term “missing” is rhetorical, to imply a mystery, an unknowing, inexplicable circumstance or situation, when in truth, it is known–commit the crime, do the time.

    But it also means some of the “missing” males could’ve moved elsewhere, i.e. for jobs and opportunity, and to get away from the inner city influence of crime and drugs and idleness.

    Prison or dead is not exhaustive of the explanation for an imbalance of black males and females in particular cities. It strikes me as a lazy analysis with an agenda.

    I don’t know what overwhelming majority means–compared to what? When a small minority of the population (blacks) commits violent crimes at 6-8x the rate that whites do, then there’s going to be a sex imbalance among blacks in the city, violent crime being ~90% committed by males. And those involved in violent crime have a truncated life expectancy.

  209. @Olorin
    They are controlled opposition. They only promote free speech on the issues they agree with.

    And they exist primarily to make sure that young White males keep committing suicide at high rates, which is preferable to becoming racially aware, as Whites, and organizing biologically, socially, politically, and culturally around White racial identity.

    Jordan Peterson has admitted this openly. I.e., that the biggest threat to the world, in his eyes, is young White men and women adopting White identity and acting as a political bloc in line with their own best interests rather than those of Jews or their post-Hart-Celler pets. (It's Hitlertastic! It's Nazirrific!)

    Also note that this is an almost entirely Jewish controlled group/information operation. Elsewhere in these pages Andrew Joyce discusses how Jordan Peterson misrepresents the writings of his ostensibly favorite big-gun writers/intellectual fathers in order to achieve this.

    http://www.unz.com/article/reply-to-jordan-peterson-on-the-jewish-question-from-his-heroes/

    Make no mistake: they are not encouraging FREE speech, they are regrouping to protect THEIR speech and disable incipient movements around White identity among young men. Their machinations are an offshoot of the marxist and feminist discourses of the 20th century. The goal is the same: to control and silence Whites while keeping the Jewish meme alive as one that everyone must bow to, as demanded. Like all human power machinations, this is about mates/reproduction, and power, and territory.

    Rogan and Haidt and Rubin and -: – JB Peterson above all – – : He is definitely for free speech and the free exchange of arguments. You can oppose lots of thoughts, as long as you allow your opponent, to have these thoughts, which might be all kinds of things – puzzling, obnoxious, strange, intimidating even – but all of this should just not matter, as long as there is a civil discourse taking place and as long as the things discussed don’t include obviously unlawful things – like child molestation, say….

    (I remember a time in Germany, when the establishment found nothing irritating in the fact, that lots of members of the establishment were openly or (kinda) secretly supporting – – – terrorism, or that the political system should be overthrown and things like that – – – – – on, and on, and on… I then clearly and outspokenly opposed such ideas, and was therefore often times accused of being a right winger…. now, I have to say, that quite some of those past revolutionaries are in the parliament, or have become ministers even – – – nobody seems to remember.

    Well – nobody? — Haha: No! – Not nobody, since I for sure do – I remember this stuff – quite well… So…I remind those past revolutionaries what they themselves once held true and could say in public – and ask them, to let their opponents on the right make their own mistakes – in case that they want to (and just in case that it should turn out, that what they actually say, is really wrong. I for one would bet for the future correctness of The Bell Curve – 500 bucks any time…and with a great pleasure – and quite confident, really.

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