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Kubrick would have framed this shot more perfectly (but not much more) (photo by Hasim Kilic)

The extraordinarily cinematic-looking assassination of the Russian ambassador to Turkey today in an Ankara art gallery by a young Turkish policeman is the latest in a long series of events I routinely characterize as “Byzantine” because I have no idea what’s really going on, but it makes me sound knowing.

From Reuters:

Russian ambassador shot dead in Ankara gallery

The Russian ambassador to Turkey was shot in the back and killed as he gave a speech at an Ankara art gallery on Monday by an off-duty police officer who shouted “Don’t forget Aleppo” and “Allahu Akbar” as he opened fire.

Tarantino would have made sure the camera was level (photo by Burhan Ozbilici)

President Tayyip Erdogan, in a video message to the nation, cast the attack as an attempt to undermine NATO-member Turkey’s relations with Russia – ties long tested by the war in Syria. He said he had agreed in a telephone call with Russia’s Vladimir Putin to step up cooperation in fighting terrorism.

At a special meeting at the Kremlin, President Putin ordered increased security at all Russian missions and said “the bandits” who committed the act would feel retribution.

“We must know who directed the killer’s hand.”

By the way, AP photographer Burhan Ozbilici bravely kept photographing and caught this picture from the wrong end of the barrel of the gun.

The 2001/A Clockwork Orange-style picture at the top of the post is credited by Reuters to Hasim Kilic/Hurriyet.

The assassination of an ambassador, not least of a major power such as Russia, marks a dangerous escalation of tension in the region and beyond. Security sources said he was off duty and some witnesses said there was no security scanning machine at the entrance.

Travolta would have worn a white suit

The attacker was smartly dressed in black suit and tie and stood, alone, behind the ambassador as he began his speech at the art exhibition, a person at the scene told Reuters. …

A video showed the attacker shouting: “Don’t forget Aleppo, don’t forget Syria!” and “Allahu Akbar” (“God is Greatest”) as screams rang out. He paced about and shouted as he held the gun in one hand and waved the other in the air.

Russia is an ally of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and its air strikes helped Syrian forces end rebel resistance last week in the northern city of Aleppo. Turkey, which seeks Assad’s ouster, has been repairing ties with Moscow after shooting down a Russian warplane over Syria last year.

The gunman was killed by special forces. Three other people were injured.

“We regard this as a terrorist act,” said Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova. “Terrorism will not win and we will fight against it decisively.”

GULEN

Erdogan, who has faced a string of attacks by Islamist and Kurdish militants as well as an attempted coup in July, identified the attacker as 22-year-old Mevlut Mert Altintas, who had worked for Ankara riot police for two and a half years. CNN Turk TV said police had detained his sister and mother.

A senior security official said there were “very strong signs” the gunman belonged to the network of the U.S.-based cleric Fethullah Gulen, who Ankara says orchestrated the failed coup in July. Erdogan has denounced Gulen as a terrorist, but the cleric, a former ally, denies the accusation.

Yeah, but Erdogan probably blames earthquakes on Gulen by this point. So who really knows?

I wrote a column about Gulen for Taki’s Magazine three years ago that can be helpful in getting up to speed.

Gulen described the killing as a “heinous act of terror” that pointed to a deterioration of security in Turkey resulting from Erdogan’s wide-ranging purge of police as well as the army, judiciary and media following the coup bid.

The government says Gulen, who has lived in self-imposed exile in the U.S. state of Pennsylvania since 1999, created a “parallel network” in the police, military, judiciary and civil service aimed at overthrowing the state.

See, Bertolucci got the symmetry right

I’m not crazy about deporting Gulen to face Erdogan’s justice, such as it is.

It seems there ought to be enough evidence by now to put Gulen on trial here in the U.S. for skimming hundreds of millions of American taxpayer dollars off all the charter schools his followers run in our country.

Also, how about investigating just why a foreign cult is attracted to running over a hundred American charter schools?

The FBI was raiding Gulen’s charter schools in 2014, but then you stopped hearing about it.

Perhaps the CIA had a talk with the FBI about charter school ripoffs and H-1b immigration fraud being a feature, not a bug?

Commenters peterike and Harry Baldwin point out the resemblance to Bertolucci’s ultra-influential 1970 film The Conformist.

I finally saw The Conformist a year or two ago and realized the huge impact it had on American 1970s movie directors, especially Italian-Americans like Coppola, Scorsese, and Cimino.

My impression is that The Conformist gave Italian-American film-makers a jolt of ethnic pride and encouraged them to upgrade the look of American movies in the 1970s.

 
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    The CIA uses illegal means like drug running to fund black ops. Gulen’s charter school skimming operation may be used to fund CIA black ops as well.

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  2. Trelane says:

    Looks like a scene straight out of Paramount studios. Possibly a Desilu production? Looks like Woody Allen’s Play it again Sam. False flag anyone?

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    • Replies: @Lot
    The picture reminded me of this painting, La derrota de Samotracia (The Defeat of Samothrace)

    http://imgur.com/a/XFbtP
    , @Trelane
    Vlad no wery happy about this provocation

    https://youtu.be/BGRZspUHg08

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  3. Dan Hayes says:

    Yes, Steve alerted all and sundry to Gulen some three years ago. That was the first I had ever heard about this character and his many nefarious educational scams, some of them even in our own country.

    Yes, to be warned beforehand is to be forearmed.

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  4. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    In this day and age, it might pass for Performance Art.

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  5. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    “President Tayyip Erdogan, in a video message to the nation, cast the attack as an attempt to undermine NATO-member Turkey’s relations with Russia – ties long tested by the war in Syria. He said he had agreed in a telephone call with Russia’s Vladimir Putin to step up cooperation in fighting terrorism.”

    Erdogan played with fire by aiding ISIS and other nutjobs. He wagered that crucial US involvement would finally topple Assad and that Turkey would get some of the spoils since it helped against Assad too.

    That scenario didn’t pan out, and what Turkey has left is a lot of angry nutjobs who feel betrayed. They are now in Turkey and EU.

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  6. anon says: • Disclaimer

    The adherents to the religion of peace have had a busy day today . First the assassination of the Russian ambassador mentioned by Steve . Then the terror attack at a Christmas market in Germany .

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4049442/Terror-attack-fears-lorry-ploughs-Christmas-market-Berlin-leaving-two-people-dead.html

    Also 2 separate articles in the mainstream press , regarding Bacha Bazi of all things .

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/bacha-bazi-afghan-subculture-child-sex-slaves-065341302.html

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/afghan-bacha-bazi-kidnappings-search-victims-063508035.html

    Excerpts : Bacha bazi has seen a chilling resurgence in post-Taliban Afghanistan, where it is not widely perceived as homosexual or un-Islamic behaviour.

    Young boys dressed effeminately have an ornamental value in a society where the genders are tightly corralled. Their possession is a mark of social status, power and masculinity

    “Rampant bacha bazi is ruining our society,” said Hamdard. “Our children grow up believing that raping boys is normal.”

    “Women are for child-rearing, boys are for pleasure” is a common saying across many parts of Afghanistan.

    When can we import more of these fine muslim gentlemen into the USA ?????????????

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Bachi bazi is an Afghan thing, not a Muslim thing. The Taliban cracked down on it and banned it. Alexander and the Greeks conquered and ruled Afghanistan for a while. It might go back to those times.
    , @Alec Leamas
    At least they don't castrate the bacha bazi and pump them full of hormones.
    , @BB753
    "When can we import more of these fine muslim gentlemen into the USA ?????????????"

    Indeed, they'd be great at running pizza joints and other pizza-related businesses.
    , @CK
    We already did, how soon we forget Omar "Orlando" Mateen.
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  7. Flip says:

    Maybe the Russians can turn Istanbul back into Constantinople.

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  8. eah says:

    The attacker was smartly dressed in black suit and tie

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    • Replies: @PV van der Byl
    Well, I think that honor would have gone to Bosnian Muslims in the 13th Mountain Division "Handschar" of the Waffen SS.

    SS uniforms were designed by Hugo Boss, the actual man.
    , @Anonymous
    That's one of the gayest tweets I've seen about this. Doesn't really help with the rumors.
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican

    The attacker was smartly dressed in black suit and tie
     
    It’s all so Robert Longo.
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    More Longo. The assassin must have struck at least one of these poses when getting drilled by the cops. In an art gallery no less.

    (Click on view content for the Tweet pic.)

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  9. The FBI was raiding Gulen’s charter schools in 2014, but then you stopped hearing about it. Perhaps the CIA had a talk with the FBI about charter school ripoffs

    They were back at it a week or so before the election, I think:

    http://www.dailysabah.com/americas/2016/10/30/us-law-enforcement-raids-turkish-owned-new-york-cafe-house-with-links-to-gulen

    Maybe that p’od the CIA enough to make noises about Trumputin.

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  10. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Reminds me of Archduke Ferdinand.

    While the killer is most to blame, there are global fingerprints all over this.

    Yes, Russia bears some blame for meddling in the Middle East.
    But it wouldn’t have done so if the Globo-West hadn’t done so much to mess up everything.

    Putin went along with Afghanistan. Didn’t protest Iraq much. He agreed to no-fly zone in Libya, only to see full-blown regime change. He saw Glob meddling come all the way to Russian doorstep with Ukraine and Baltics.
    Then, he drew a red line in Syria and decided it won’t fall.

    Meanwhile, US and its proxies egged on the rebels, some legit but mostly nutty. And Turkey played all sides, and it now has a big mess on its hands. As Syrian War winds down, many rebels are gonna run to Turkey. Some will return to civilian life, but some are gonna get revenge with attacks on Turkey and EU.

    Obama and Hillary have to answer for this, along with Erdogan and Saudis.

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  11. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    So, this is the kind of nuts US and Turkey have been aiding in Syria forever.

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  12. whorefinder says: • Website

    This is all turning out very 1914.

    Syrian sympathizer murders Russian ambassador in Turkey while Russia and Turkey are at odds. Westerns nations are suffering from having too many distinct, hostile ethnic groups in their midst clamoring for either total power over the others or ethnic separation.

    Here’s hoping President Trump doesn’t make the mistake Wilson did and bring us into the mass conflict brewing. Granted the U.S. came out of WWI with a lot of prestige and relatively little loss of life and the Jazz Age, but that loss of life was Americans who didn’t need to die, plus involved us in a bunch of penalties on Germany that led to the Real Nazis, the Commies seizing power in Russia, and Italy and Japan getting hungry for pieces of the pie.

    Call me crazy, but I’d really rather have no WWIII during my lifetime.

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    Syrian sympathizer murders Russian ambassador in Turkey while Russia and Turkey are at odds.
     
    Not since the coup attempt. Now they're friends. That is why Erdogan is sure to blame this on the Gulenists the US shelters.
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  13. Lot says:
    @Trelane
    Looks like a scene straight out of Paramount studios. Possibly a Desilu production? Looks like Woody Allen's Play it again Sam. False flag anyone?

    https://youtu.be/Jbnueb2OI4o

    The picture reminded me of this painting, La derrota de Samotracia (The Defeat of Samothrace)

    View post on imgur.com

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  14. Trelane says:
    @Trelane
    Looks like a scene straight out of Paramount studios. Possibly a Desilu production? Looks like Woody Allen's Play it again Sam. False flag anyone?

    https://youtu.be/Jbnueb2OI4o

    Vlad no wery happy about this provocation

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  15. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    CNN is covering both of these Islamic atrocities in the usual way tonight. Ludicrous.

    We can’t let them (CNN) get away with Allah=God. When the killer screams “Allahu Akbar” he is saying Allah is great. He is not saying God is great in the sense of a universal deity for all mankind because Muslims do not believe that such a god exists. There is no true god for non-Muslims. Period. Infidels are godless.

    There is only Allah and Allah is not god for all of mankind. CNN deliberately conflates Allah and God.

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    That's no different from orthodox, Christian theology. The god you're describing is not the Christian god.
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  16. Truth says:

    All high school theatre like the presidential election; nobody died.

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    All high school theatre like the presidential election; nobody died.
     
    Dude in the video looks pretty dead to me.
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  17. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @anon
    The adherents to the religion of peace have had a busy day today . First the assassination of the Russian ambassador mentioned by Steve . Then the terror attack at a Christmas market in Germany .

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4049442/Terror-attack-fears-lorry-ploughs-Christmas-market-Berlin-leaving-two-people-dead.html


    Also 2 separate articles in the mainstream press , regarding Bacha Bazi of all things .

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/bacha-bazi-afghan-subculture-child-sex-slaves-065341302.html

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/afghan-bacha-bazi-kidnappings-search-victims-063508035.html

    Excerpts : Bacha bazi has seen a chilling resurgence in post-Taliban Afghanistan, where it is not widely perceived as homosexual or un-Islamic behaviour.

    Young boys dressed effeminately have an ornamental value in a society where the genders are tightly corralled. Their possession is a mark of social status, power and masculinity

    “Rampant bacha bazi is ruining our society,” said Hamdard. “Our children grow up believing that raping boys is normal.”

    "Women are for child-rearing, boys are for pleasure" is a common saying across many parts of Afghanistan.


    When can we import more of these fine muslim gentlemen into the USA ?????????????

    Bachi bazi is an Afghan thing, not a Muslim thing. The Taliban cracked down on it and banned it. Alexander and the Greeks conquered and ruled Afghanistan for a while. It might go back to those times.

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    ** Takkiya Alert ** ** Takkiya Alert * * ** Islamic apologist detected * !!!!!

    Bacha-Bazi has roots in Iran and exists in several Islamic nations in addition to Afghanistan. Tajikistan , Iran , Pakistan , Turkey and Afghanistan are all places where Bacha-Bazi is entrenched.In Pakistan it is referred to as Bacha-Posh , in Turkey is referred to as Kocek . The boys are typically raped until such time as they are no longer Bacha-Berisha ( boys without beards).After their beards appear they are let loose and usually continue the repugnant circle with the apprehension of a younger boy for their own enjoyment .

    According to The Daily Times and WebCitation.org, a survey of Google searches reveals that six out of the top ten countries of search origin looking for sex-related sites online are from Islamic countries. Pakistan topped the list; Egypt is 2nd, Iran 4th, Morocco 5th, Saudi Arabia, 7th, and Turkey, 8th. Non-Islamic countries include Vietnam, which is 3rd, India, 6th, Philippines, 9th, and Poland, 10th.

    Turkish is the language most used when searching for child porn; Turkey is the country in which the second largest number of searches online occur for “child porn.”

    For “children sex,” Pakistan is again first, Egypt is again second, and Iran moves up to third. The most common languages used to search are Arabic and Turkish.

    For “sexy children,” Pakistan is again first, followed by Syria, Iran, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey.

    For “sexy child,” Pakistan is again first, followed by Iran, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Turkey. The most often used languages to search are Persian, Arabic, and Turkish.
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  18. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Anonymous
    CNN is covering both of these Islamic atrocities in the usual way tonight. Ludicrous.

    We can't let them (CNN) get away with Allah=God. When the killer screams "Allahu Akbar" he is saying Allah is great. He is not saying God is great in the sense of a universal deity for all mankind because Muslims do not believe that such a god exists. There is no true god for non-Muslims. Period. Infidels are godless.

    There is only Allah and Allah is not god for all of mankind. CNN deliberately conflates Allah and God.

    That’s no different from orthodox, Christian theology. The god you’re describing is not the Christian god.

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  19. Jefferson says:

    It’s interesting that even though Turkey shares a border with Europe, culturally they might as well be a million miles away from Europe. Whoever divided the lines between Europe and The Middle East knew what they were doing when they drew the line at the Greece/Turkey border and the Bulgaria/Turkey border. I wish we could deport the anti-Western, anti-Christian, and anti-White Cenk Uygur from The Young Turks.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    The people who currently occupy most of the Middle East have not always lived there. Large swaths of the region -- and we're talking Egypt to India and beyond (including Turkey) -- used to be inhabited by European peoples. Even the original population of ancient Mesopotamia, Sumer, which is in present day Iraq, spoke an Indo-European language before they were (likely) overwhelmed/pushed out/exterminated by semitic tribes who had previously been more or less relegated to the lower portion of the Arabian peninsula. For the last several thousand years, those tribes have spread like a plague from Morocco to Pakistan, in a wave that is obviously ongoing. Turkey is also often speculated as being one of the places where the first Indo-European tribes originated or at least spread south into the rest of the ME from.
    , @Peter Akuleyev
    No, the real border between Europe and "Asia" is still pretty much the old border between the Ottoman Empire and the Russians and Austrians. Bulgarian culture is more Turkish than European. In Romania the difference in mentality, work ethic and honesty between the old Hungarian territories and the old Ottoman provinces is still obvious even today. It's the same in ex-Yugoslavia.
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  20. Almost all you need to know about this event is that it’s the lead story on the NYT front page (emphasizing the “Don’t forget Aleppo” but ignoring the “Allahu Akbar”) while the terrorist massacre in Berlin is way down below the fold, with no mention whatever of the fact that the terrorist in Berlin was apparently a Pakistani “refugee”…

    Similarly in the WashPost, which says: “In a video of the attack, the gunman is heard shouting: “Do not forget Aleppo! Do not forget Syria!”

    Again, no mention of “Allahu Akbar”..

    The photogenic event in Ankara is tailor-made to assist with anti-Russian sympathies and (as a corollary benefit) to drive a further wedge between Turkiye & Russia.

    The Tribal Agenda again, as ever.

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    • Replies: @Kyle McKenna

    The driver, who according to German newspaper Die Welt, was a refugee of Afghan or Pakistani heritage who had arrived in Germany in February, ripped off a mask as he was arrested.
     
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4049822/Was-truck-HIJACKED-Cousin-driver-registered-Polish-lorry-claims-making-drop-Berlin-s-revealed-haulage-firm-lost-contact-moments-crash.html

    https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/live160453735/Lkw-Fahrer-soll-als-Fluechtling-ins-Land-gekommen-sein.html

    The Daily Mail and RT are often good sources for up-to-the-minute reports of terrorist activity---usually accurate when compared with the 'American' MSM, which generally omit anything politically inconvenient or "incorrect".

    , @Moshe
    "The Tribal Agenda".

    You can make worldly events fit any narrative you like. There are enough events going on that it's not hard to string together whatever prosecution case you like.

    And jews, being more interesting and successful than whatever people you come from, are likely to be somehow or other at least tangentially involved in many of the various things going on in the world. Something which is not the case for most other small peoples.

    Now, string together a couple of things here and there such as how Jews Like Israel and such, can make you believe that there is some sort of octopus Jewish command center or at least some sort of hive mind that's directs Jews in the same direction.

    Neither are the case. However, considering how ridiculously censored any discussion of Jews is in the West, the only people putting together any sort of narrative are people who don't care much for Jews or are looking for a scapegoat or whatever.

    And I definitely can't blame people - who obviously notice the censorship despite the fact that plenty of Jews appear to be doing interesting stuff and interesting places - for eseeing that narrative as one that has a lot of merit.

    In fact, I imagine that if I myself did not know so much about the subject (I'm something of an authority on the matter) I would likely come to similar conclusions, or at least consider them. In fact comma I can't imagine how any free thinking person wouldn't at least consider such conclusions.

    But, while it's too long to get into in a blog post, the actual narrative is, obviously more complex than any simplistic narrative, but also one that does not include Jewish individuals moving in concert except for those who do so publicly. People of Jewish descent enjoy the stage, and it takes something like a Mossad vow to keep them from blabbing. Even then it often doesn't help.

    The problem however is that people looking for an anti Jewish narrative tend to only focus on Jews on one side of the equation. The extreme left knows the details about every Jew on the right while the extreme-right knows the details about every Jew on the left.

    It would be wonderful, for me anyway, if there actually was some coordinated effort to bring Jews to the top of the mountain.

    Any large coordinated effort, or even uncoordinated ambitions in the same direction, is able to accomplish great things. And obviously, those are no ordinary people.

    Chosen or not, while they've always been small in number, Jews have been busier in every field imaginable doing interesting things. And even if you knew all of them that you can gather from Wikipedia, you would still only know a tenth of it. Because 9/10s of it, unfortunately, has been religious nonsense. But unbelievably extraordinarily brilliant religious nonsense.

    So again, if Jews were all moving in the same direction there would not have been a holocaust only a few years ago and at least the entire Middle East would be included within the state of Israel.

    Anyhow, for dictating by phone, this will have to do.

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  21. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Turkey is such a backwater. Look at the crap on the walls. It’s another country with a tacky, garish, chaotic aesthetic …reeks of low IQ and cousin-marrying. You know you’re halfway to Pakistan.

    This assassin clearly said the word “jihadi” in his rant but I didn’t hear any discussion of that fact in our media today.

    Clan based cultures have a national brain chemistry like bacon on a skillet. Their minds are frying, sizzling. A raging grease fire is always imminent.

    Anyway …Nuclear Islam is near, boys!

    We need to Christianize them or else.

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    "Turkey is such a backwater." Indeed; but everyone I know who has been there has liked it.
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  22. @eah
    The attacker was smartly dressed in black suit and tie

    https://twitter.com/RichardBSpencer/status/810951861310197760

    Well, I think that honor would have gone to Bosnian Muslims in the 13th Mountain Division “Handschar” of the Waffen SS.

    SS uniforms were designed by Hugo Boss, the actual man.

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  23. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    About damn time.

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    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
    Laughable black comedy. If the Russians took this seriously, this twat would be found dead with a bullet in the back of his head tomorrow. One more reason President Trump needs to purge the CIA comprehensively and quickly.
    , @Anonym
    About damn time.

    He wants to do a lot of things... why exactly? One thing we've learned is that we are better off with secular dictators than a caliphate. However, you've got the problem that anyone you make rich will tend to want to advance his ethno-religious interest. Be that Saudi princes funding mosques or Chinese building up bases in the South China Sea.
    , @Mr. Anon
    "About damn time."

    For what? Provoking a nuclear power, by going out of our way to kill their people? We tried to avoid doing that during the Vietnam war.

    This guy, whose reckless and stupid advice you are recommending, is Michael Morell, who wrote a New York Times Op-Ed endorsing Hillary Clinton for President. Why should I particularly care what he thinks?
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  24. J1234 says:

    The extraordinarily cinematic-looking assassination….

    That was my impression, too. The great lighting and the high resolution give it an unprecedented creepiness. Also, the killer was a good looking guy, in a Hollywood kind of way. You have to wonder if it was all planned that way.

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    I also agree. The first word that came to my mind was antiseptic, as it appears you could eat off the floor in that gallery.

    My second thought was the assassin looks like a Turkish Steve Carell and his exaggerated actions almost look like a Carell spoof.
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  25. @Kyle McKenna
    Almost all you need to know about this event is that it's the lead story on the NYT front page (emphasizing the “Don’t forget Aleppo” but ignoring the “Allahu Akbar”) while the terrorist massacre in Berlin is way down below the fold, with no mention whatever of the fact that the terrorist in Berlin was apparently a Pakistani "refugee"...

    Similarly in the WashPost, which says: "In a video of the attack, the gunman is heard shouting: “Do not forget Aleppo! Do not forget Syria!”

    Again, no mention of “Allahu Akbar”..

    The photogenic event in Ankara is tailor-made to assist with anti-Russian sympathies and (as a corollary benefit) to drive a further wedge between Turkiye & Russia.

    The Tribal Agenda again, as ever.

    The driver, who according to German newspaper Die Welt, was a refugee of Afghan or Pakistani heritage who had arrived in Germany in February, ripped off a mask as he was arrested.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4049822/Was-truck-HIJACKED-Cousin-driver-registered-Polish-lorry-claims-making-drop-Berlin-s-revealed-haulage-firm-lost-contact-moments-crash.html

    https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/live160453735/Lkw-Fahrer-soll-als-Fluechtling-ins-Land-gekommen-sein.html

    The Daily Mail and RT are often good sources for up-to-the-minute reports of terrorist activity—usually accurate when compared with the ‘American’ MSM, which generally omit anything politically inconvenient or “incorrect”.

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  26. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Anonymous
    Bachi bazi is an Afghan thing, not a Muslim thing. The Taliban cracked down on it and banned it. Alexander and the Greeks conquered and ruled Afghanistan for a while. It might go back to those times.

    ** Takkiya Alert ** ** Takkiya Alert * * ** Islamic apologist detected * !!!!!

    Bacha-Bazi has roots in Iran and exists in several Islamic nations in addition to Afghanistan. Tajikistan , Iran , Pakistan , Turkey and Afghanistan are all places where Bacha-Bazi is entrenched.In Pakistan it is referred to as Bacha-Posh , in Turkey is referred to as Kocek . The boys are typically raped until such time as they are no longer Bacha-Berisha ( boys without beards).After their beards appear they are let loose and usually continue the repugnant circle with the apprehension of a younger boy for their own enjoyment .

    According to The Daily Times and WebCitation.org, a survey of Google searches reveals that six out of the top ten countries of search origin looking for sex-related sites online are from Islamic countries. Pakistan topped the list; Egypt is 2nd, Iran 4th, Morocco 5th, Saudi Arabia, 7th, and Turkey, 8th. Non-Islamic countries include Vietnam, which is 3rd, India, 6th, Philippines, 9th, and Poland, 10th.

    Turkish is the language most used when searching for child porn; Turkey is the country in which the second largest number of searches online occur for “child porn.”

    For “children sex,” Pakistan is again first, Egypt is again second, and Iran moves up to third. The most common languages used to search are Arabic and Turkish.

    For “sexy children,” Pakistan is again first, followed by Syria, Iran, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey.

    For “sexy child,” Pakistan is again first, followed by Iran, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Turkey. The most often used languages to search are Persian, Arabic, and Turkish.

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    Bacha-Bazi has roots in Iran and exists in several Islamic nations in addition to Afghanistan. Tajikistan , Iran , Pakistan , Turkey and Afghanistan are all places where Bacha-Bazi is entrenched.
     
    This is the Hellenistic-Persian-Indo-Iranian cultural area, and these practices there predate the introduction of Islam.
    , @Stan
    The hasbara crap never ends.
    , @Anonym
    This is interesting, and certainly matches the Rotherham Pakistani child sex slavery/prostitution phenomenon, though it was females targeted.
    , @NOTA
    If you want to be convincing, try engaging with facts and reason, rather than screaming "Islamic apologist." Everyone here has already failed to be convinced by magic word arguments telling us that hbd arguments have racist cooties or sexist cooties; why fall for the next magic word argument?
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  27. Whiskey says: • Website

    The Muslim world has been in crisis for a very long time. The Ottomans face Arab nationalism long before WWI. Meanwhile Muslim societies were not competitive with even European Early Modern mercantilism, let alone industrialization. And nationalist / tribalist desires were there even during the Ottoman era. Nothing has made that better — not Saddam, nor his overthrow, nor the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, the US war after 9/11, nothing.

    Erdogan made everything far worse betting on ISIS, but ISIS was just the inheritor of the Al Qaeda jihad brigades which in turn had a long heritage in Muslim society. ISIS is not really that different from Mohammed himself. What, Muslims want to be like Westerners? No. They **WANT** Sharia, Jihad, and daily beheadings. Erdogan backed down from War with Russia, and now he has to crack down on jihadis who seem deeply embedded within the security services; after picking a spectacular fight with the military that ended in a failed coup and the jailing of what, a good portion of the officers and enlisted men.

    Which means he’s weak. Putin is going to demand a crackdown and hand-over of the people who aided the assassination. That means going right up against the only pillar of the Erdogan regime. **MAYBE** Erdogan can keep on, but that means basically throwing in with Putin and requiring Russian military forces to keep him in power. Having gutted his own military, he needs to get Russian help to purge his one remaining group of people with guns on his side.

    There’s a good chance that Erdogan gets deposed and some Security Service people take over, throwing in their lot with ISIS and Islamization to the ISIS logical conclusion. But then, this has been in the making since at least 1453 and possibly 1071.

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    The Muslim world has been in crisis for a very long time.
     
    That's the human condition.

    Islam is on the march demographically; never letting a crisis go to waste, I guess.
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  28. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    That’s no different from orthodox, Christian theology. The god you’re describing is not the Christian god.

    I said CNN not CBN.

    I didn’t say anything about Christianity. CNN anchors reference god in the ecumenical sense ie universal god of all mankind. And that is the American understanding as in the Declaration of Independence “Our Creator” “God and Nature’s God” etc.

    CNN knows its audience. They know what they are doing when equate Allah and the ecumenical universal God. It’s a lie.

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    Islam claims that Allah is the universal god of mankind. Everyone who believes in him is saved, and everyone who doesn't is damned. It doesn't really get any more universal than that.
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  29. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Anonymous
    That’s no different from orthodox, Christian theology. The god you’re describing is not the Christian god.

    I said CNN not CBN.

    I didn't say anything about Christianity. CNN anchors reference god in the ecumenical sense ie universal god of all mankind. And that is the American understanding as in the Declaration of Independence "Our Creator" "God and Nature's God" etc.

    CNN knows its audience. They know what they are doing when equate Allah and the ecumenical universal God. It's a lie.

    Islam claims that Allah is the universal god of mankind. Everyone who believes in him is saved, and everyone who doesn’t is damned. It doesn’t really get any more universal than that.

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    Yeah, I think that's part of being a prostheletizing religion--you think your god is universal, not just for a particular tribe or region or purpose. Muslims and Christians both have this belief--they and we believe there's a single God whom everyone should worship. Otherwise, why bother wanting to convert others?
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  30. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @anon
    ** Takkiya Alert ** ** Takkiya Alert * * ** Islamic apologist detected * !!!!!

    Bacha-Bazi has roots in Iran and exists in several Islamic nations in addition to Afghanistan. Tajikistan , Iran , Pakistan , Turkey and Afghanistan are all places where Bacha-Bazi is entrenched.In Pakistan it is referred to as Bacha-Posh , in Turkey is referred to as Kocek . The boys are typically raped until such time as they are no longer Bacha-Berisha ( boys without beards).After their beards appear they are let loose and usually continue the repugnant circle with the apprehension of a younger boy for their own enjoyment .

    According to The Daily Times and WebCitation.org, a survey of Google searches reveals that six out of the top ten countries of search origin looking for sex-related sites online are from Islamic countries. Pakistan topped the list; Egypt is 2nd, Iran 4th, Morocco 5th, Saudi Arabia, 7th, and Turkey, 8th. Non-Islamic countries include Vietnam, which is 3rd, India, 6th, Philippines, 9th, and Poland, 10th.

    Turkish is the language most used when searching for child porn; Turkey is the country in which the second largest number of searches online occur for “child porn.”

    For “children sex,” Pakistan is again first, Egypt is again second, and Iran moves up to third. The most common languages used to search are Arabic and Turkish.

    For “sexy children,” Pakistan is again first, followed by Syria, Iran, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey.

    For “sexy child,” Pakistan is again first, followed by Iran, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Turkey. The most often used languages to search are Persian, Arabic, and Turkish.

    Bacha-Bazi has roots in Iran and exists in several Islamic nations in addition to Afghanistan. Tajikistan , Iran , Pakistan , Turkey and Afghanistan are all places where Bacha-Bazi is entrenched.

    This is the Hellenistic-Persian-Indo-Iranian cultural area, and these practices there predate the introduction of Islam.

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  31. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @eah
    The attacker was smartly dressed in black suit and tie

    https://twitter.com/RichardBSpencer/status/810951861310197760

    That’s one of the gayest tweets I’ve seen about this. Doesn’t really help with the rumors.

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  32. @anon
    The adherents to the religion of peace have had a busy day today . First the assassination of the Russian ambassador mentioned by Steve . Then the terror attack at a Christmas market in Germany .

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4049442/Terror-attack-fears-lorry-ploughs-Christmas-market-Berlin-leaving-two-people-dead.html


    Also 2 separate articles in the mainstream press , regarding Bacha Bazi of all things .

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/bacha-bazi-afghan-subculture-child-sex-slaves-065341302.html

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/afghan-bacha-bazi-kidnappings-search-victims-063508035.html

    Excerpts : Bacha bazi has seen a chilling resurgence in post-Taliban Afghanistan, where it is not widely perceived as homosexual or un-Islamic behaviour.

    Young boys dressed effeminately have an ornamental value in a society where the genders are tightly corralled. Their possession is a mark of social status, power and masculinity

    “Rampant bacha bazi is ruining our society,” said Hamdard. “Our children grow up believing that raping boys is normal.”

    "Women are for child-rearing, boys are for pleasure" is a common saying across many parts of Afghanistan.


    When can we import more of these fine muslim gentlemen into the USA ?????????????

    At least they don’t castrate the bacha bazi and pump them full of hormones.

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    True, but those poor kids probably wind up having to wear diapers for the rest of their lives.
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  33. It is clear enough that the CIA, the Neocons, Saudi Arabia, ISIS, and their various sympathizers suffered total defeat in Syria, and are now flailing impotently by committing vile, idiotic, and fundamentally self-defeating gestures such as this act of terrorism and the creation of the neo-McCarthyite furor in the West.

    But I still marvel at the degree of imbecilic and petty cruelty that these Islamic terrorists descend to. No sane person on the planet who is not blinded by bigotry (whether of the anti-Russian or the pro-Wahhabist kind) would either be scared or attracted by the vile murder of the Russian ambassador. Rather, I suspect all are disgusted and would welcome a quick and bloody annihilation of ISIS (including the fake moderate rebels).

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  34. By the way, AP photographer Burhan Ozbilici bravely kept photographing.

    Not just photographing, but composing, framing, choosing his angle—the highest degree of professionalism. Especially in this age of smartphones, street, news and war photographers are totally unappreciated and unknown to the general public. It’s a very demanding craft.

    They were better known in the heyday of the great newsweeklies and picture magazines, in the mid-20th century.

    Errol Morris, age 100, who was photo editor at the New York Times and Life magazine has written a memoir about the business of news photography titled Get the Picture: a Personal History of Photojournalism. It’s worth a read.

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  35. Stan says:
    @anon
    ** Takkiya Alert ** ** Takkiya Alert * * ** Islamic apologist detected * !!!!!

    Bacha-Bazi has roots in Iran and exists in several Islamic nations in addition to Afghanistan. Tajikistan , Iran , Pakistan , Turkey and Afghanistan are all places where Bacha-Bazi is entrenched.In Pakistan it is referred to as Bacha-Posh , in Turkey is referred to as Kocek . The boys are typically raped until such time as they are no longer Bacha-Berisha ( boys without beards).After their beards appear they are let loose and usually continue the repugnant circle with the apprehension of a younger boy for their own enjoyment .

    According to The Daily Times and WebCitation.org, a survey of Google searches reveals that six out of the top ten countries of search origin looking for sex-related sites online are from Islamic countries. Pakistan topped the list; Egypt is 2nd, Iran 4th, Morocco 5th, Saudi Arabia, 7th, and Turkey, 8th. Non-Islamic countries include Vietnam, which is 3rd, India, 6th, Philippines, 9th, and Poland, 10th.

    Turkish is the language most used when searching for child porn; Turkey is the country in which the second largest number of searches online occur for “child porn.”

    For “children sex,” Pakistan is again first, Egypt is again second, and Iran moves up to third. The most common languages used to search are Arabic and Turkish.

    For “sexy children,” Pakistan is again first, followed by Syria, Iran, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey.

    For “sexy child,” Pakistan is again first, followed by Iran, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Turkey. The most often used languages to search are Persian, Arabic, and Turkish.

    The hasbara crap never ends.

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  36. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Not being nasty, one could take that series of photographs as being some sort of ‘modern’ ‘avant-garde’ art installation, if one wasn’t told otherwise.

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    If this had happened in The United States or Western Europe, I imagine the bystanders would have had a hard time believing that the assassination was not performance art. You might even have heard them clapping at the end.
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  37. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @whorefinder
    This is all turning out very 1914.

    Syrian sympathizer murders Russian ambassador in Turkey while Russia and Turkey are at odds. Westerns nations are suffering from having too many distinct, hostile ethnic groups in their midst clamoring for either total power over the others or ethnic separation.

    Here's hoping President Trump doesn't make the mistake Wilson did and bring us into the mass conflict brewing. Granted the U.S. came out of WWI with a lot of prestige and relatively little loss of life and the Jazz Age, but that loss of life was Americans who didn't need to die, plus involved us in a bunch of penalties on Germany that led to the Real Nazis, the Commies seizing power in Russia, and Italy and Japan getting hungry for pieces of the pie.

    Call me crazy, but I'd really rather have no WWIII during my lifetime.

    Syrian sympathizer murders Russian ambassador in Turkey while Russia and Turkey are at odds.

    Not since the coup attempt. Now they’re friends. That is why Erdogan is sure to blame this on the Gulenists the US shelters.

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    "Not since the coup attempt. Now they’re friends.'

    NO. The Putin-Lavrov team THINK (i.e., ARE DELUDING THEMSELVES) that they are friends. There's a huge difference.

    A country like today's Turkey, ruled by a tyrannical Islamist regime whose ideological pillars are aggressive Neo-Ottomanism and Muslim Brotherhood ideology, and brimming with Russia-hating jihadis, jihadi sympathizers, rabid anti-Slav/anti-Europe Turkish ultra-nationalists etc., cannot POSSIBLY become a friend or ally of Russia. The ideologies, mentalities and interests are diametrically opposed. The Erdogan regime is the direct sponsor of jihadis fighting in Syria against Russians and their Syrian allies, for Chrissakes! Geographically, without the Erdogan regime's support, the U.S., Saudi Arabia and the rest of the Evil Pro-Jihad Coalition could do very little to aid their jihadi proxy-buddies in Syria against the Assad government.

    The Putin-Lavrov team's pipedream of a Grand Eurasian Axis including Erdogan's Turkey is just that - a silly dream.
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  38. eah says:
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  39. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Jefferson
    It's interesting that even though Turkey shares a border with Europe, culturally they might as well be a million miles away from Europe. Whoever divided the lines between Europe and The Middle East knew what they were doing when they drew the line at the Greece/Turkey border and the Bulgaria/Turkey border. I wish we could deport the anti-Western, anti-Christian, and anti-White Cenk Uygur from The Young Turks.

    The people who currently occupy most of the Middle East have not always lived there. Large swaths of the region — and we’re talking Egypt to India and beyond (including Turkey) — used to be inhabited by European peoples. Even the original population of ancient Mesopotamia, Sumer, which is in present day Iraq, spoke an Indo-European language before they were (likely) overwhelmed/pushed out/exterminated by semitic tribes who had previously been more or less relegated to the lower portion of the Arabian peninsula. For the last several thousand years, those tribes have spread like a plague from Morocco to Pakistan, in a wave that is obviously ongoing. Turkey is also often speculated as being one of the places where the first Indo-European tribes originated or at least spread south into the rest of the ME from.

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    "The people who currently occupy most of the Middle East have not always lived there. Large swaths of the region — and we’re talking Egypt to India and beyond (including Turkey) — used to be inhabited by European peoples"

    We now have ancient DNA from much of the middle east, and this is completely wrong.
    , @Dave
    This is largely true with the exception being that Sumerian was not an Indo European language.
    Sumerian was an agglutinative language, like Hungarian and Finnish and Dravidian in India.
    The Kurds and Yazidis are the remnants of much larger Indo European speaking peoples who inhabited Western Asia for millenia before the spread of Islam and ensuing demographic explosion of Arabs.
    , @AP
    Chaldeans (Iraqi Christians) claim to be the descendants of the original Babylonian inhabitants of Mesopotamia, who were swamped by Arabs. Chaldeans are not Indo-Europeans.
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  40. anon says: • Disclaimer

    unless they’re rooted out the neocons in the state dept. and CIA will lead us into WW3

    it may already be too late as the destabilization they have wrought runs its own course

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  41. Moshe says:
    @Kyle McKenna
    Almost all you need to know about this event is that it's the lead story on the NYT front page (emphasizing the “Don’t forget Aleppo” but ignoring the “Allahu Akbar”) while the terrorist massacre in Berlin is way down below the fold, with no mention whatever of the fact that the terrorist in Berlin was apparently a Pakistani "refugee"...

    Similarly in the WashPost, which says: "In a video of the attack, the gunman is heard shouting: “Do not forget Aleppo! Do not forget Syria!”

    Again, no mention of “Allahu Akbar”..

    The photogenic event in Ankara is tailor-made to assist with anti-Russian sympathies and (as a corollary benefit) to drive a further wedge between Turkiye & Russia.

    The Tribal Agenda again, as ever.

    “The Tribal Agenda”.

    You can make worldly events fit any narrative you like. There are enough events going on that it’s not hard to string together whatever prosecution case you like.

    And jews, being more interesting and successful than whatever people you come from, are likely to be somehow or other at least tangentially involved in many of the various things going on in the world. Something which is not the case for most other small peoples.

    Now, string together a couple of things here and there such as how Jews Like Israel and such, can make you believe that there is some sort of octopus Jewish command center or at least some sort of hive mind that’s directs Jews in the same direction.

    Neither are the case. However, considering how ridiculously censored any discussion of Jews is in the West, the only people putting together any sort of narrative are people who don’t care much for Jews or are looking for a scapegoat or whatever.

    And I definitely can’t blame people – who obviously notice the censorship despite the fact that plenty of Jews appear to be doing interesting stuff and interesting places – for eseeing that narrative as one that has a lot of merit.

    In fact, I imagine that if I myself did not know so much about the subject (I’m something of an authority on the matter) I would likely come to similar conclusions, or at least consider them. In fact comma I can’t imagine how any free thinking person wouldn’t at least consider such conclusions.

    But, while it’s too long to get into in a blog post, the actual narrative is, obviously more complex than any simplistic narrative, but also one that does not include Jewish individuals moving in concert except for those who do so publicly. People of Jewish descent enjoy the stage, and it takes something like a Mossad vow to keep them from blabbing. Even then it often doesn’t help.

    The problem however is that people looking for an anti Jewish narrative tend to only focus on Jews on one side of the equation. The extreme left knows the details about every Jew on the right while the extreme-right knows the details about every Jew on the left.

    It would be wonderful, for me anyway, if there actually was some coordinated effort to bring Jews to the top of the mountain.

    Any large coordinated effort, or even uncoordinated ambitions in the same direction, is able to accomplish great things. And obviously, those are no ordinary people.

    Chosen or not, while they’ve always been small in number, Jews have been busier in every field imaginable doing interesting things. And even if you knew all of them that you can gather from Wikipedia, you would still only know a tenth of it. Because 9/10s of it, unfortunately, has been religious nonsense. But unbelievably extraordinarily brilliant religious nonsense.

    So again, if Jews were all moving in the same direction there would not have been a holocaust only a few years ago and at least the entire Middle East would be included within the state of Israel.

    Anyhow, for dictating by phone, this will have to do.

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    if Jews were all moving in the same direction there would not have been a holocaust only a few years ago
     
    I think you meant to say "weren't" instead of "were."
    , @iffen
    Describe to me the pattern that you want to see and I can find it.
    , @No_0ne
    Exactly. Neocons are a conspiracy theory, as are their origins in Jewish Trotskyites. And their hatred for (non-Communist) Russia has nothing to do with a longstanding tribal antipathy.
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  42. neutral says:

    Its not that complicated if you look at it another way, the Byzantine empire was conquered by the Turks, the Russians were influenced by the Byzantines and thus became the natural enemies of the Turks, hence the reason why there have been a lot of Russian-Turk wars over the centuries. The natural enemy thing probably goes deeper than just simply religious and cultural differences, the Turks were also known to raid Russian lands for white females, this surely has lead to deep rooted animosities that span the generations.

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  43. wren says:

    Holy cow, those are iconic photos.

    They will be famous for decades to come.

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    They're already hilarious memes over on 8chan.

    Wokka wokka wokka!

    , @NOTA
    It probably says something bad about me that the thing that jumped out at me was "hey, he may be a jihadi murdering an ambassador in hopes of triggering WW3, but at least he's got his finger off the trigger."
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  44. George says:

    “bravely kept photographing.”

    Hey iSteve, Do you say that about people videoing the police beating people up?

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    No, because the police aren't likely to shoot the people who are recording them making an arrest.
    , @NOTA
    The police might rough you up and take your camera for filming them beating someone up, but they aren't going to kill you out of hand. A terrorist who's already murdered someone and knows that the best possible outcome for him from here is dying in a shootout is a whole lot more dangerous.
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  45. @Jefferson
    It's interesting that even though Turkey shares a border with Europe, culturally they might as well be a million miles away from Europe. Whoever divided the lines between Europe and The Middle East knew what they were doing when they drew the line at the Greece/Turkey border and the Bulgaria/Turkey border. I wish we could deport the anti-Western, anti-Christian, and anti-White Cenk Uygur from The Young Turks.

    No, the real border between Europe and “Asia” is still pretty much the old border between the Ottoman Empire and the Russians and Austrians. Bulgarian culture is more Turkish than European. In Romania the difference in mentality, work ethic and honesty between the old Hungarian territories and the old Ottoman provinces is still obvious even today. It’s the same in ex-Yugoslavia.

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  46. BB753 says:
    @anon
    The adherents to the religion of peace have had a busy day today . First the assassination of the Russian ambassador mentioned by Steve . Then the terror attack at a Christmas market in Germany .

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4049442/Terror-attack-fears-lorry-ploughs-Christmas-market-Berlin-leaving-two-people-dead.html


    Also 2 separate articles in the mainstream press , regarding Bacha Bazi of all things .

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/bacha-bazi-afghan-subculture-child-sex-slaves-065341302.html

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/afghan-bacha-bazi-kidnappings-search-victims-063508035.html

    Excerpts : Bacha bazi has seen a chilling resurgence in post-Taliban Afghanistan, where it is not widely perceived as homosexual or un-Islamic behaviour.

    Young boys dressed effeminately have an ornamental value in a society where the genders are tightly corralled. Their possession is a mark of social status, power and masculinity

    “Rampant bacha bazi is ruining our society,” said Hamdard. “Our children grow up believing that raping boys is normal.”

    "Women are for child-rearing, boys are for pleasure" is a common saying across many parts of Afghanistan.


    When can we import more of these fine muslim gentlemen into the USA ?????????????

    “When can we import more of these fine muslim gentlemen into the USA ?????????????”

    Indeed, they’d be great at running pizza joints and other pizza-related businesses.

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    Is that a reference to pizzagate?
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  47. Jefferson says:

    ” Bulgarian culture is more Turkish than European.”

    No it isn’t. If it was Bulgaria would be a Muslim nation.

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    While you are correct - Christianity is a huge factor with respect to culture, which is why a Mexican Mestizo is probably more "European" than is a blonde Muslim Chechen - and Akuleyev oversold his point, there is indeed a very strong divide between the Balkans (particularly, those countries that did achieve formal independence from the Ottoman Empire until the late 1870s) and the rest of Europe in terms of income, PISA scores, and average IQ. Let's compare Balkan to non-Balkan Eastern Europe.

    Lynn's IQ:

    Poland 99
    Hungary 98
    Russia 97

    Romania 94*
    Bulgaria 93
    Macedonia 91
    Bosnia 90
    Albania 90
    Serbia 89

    Turkey 90

    (in comparison, African Americans: 87)

    Mean PISA scores:

    Poland 521
    Hungary 487
    Russia 481

    Serbia 447
    Bulgaria 440
    Romania 440
    Albania 395

    Turkey 462

    (in comparison, African Americans: 434)

    1992 GDP per capita (nominal):

    Hungary: $3,714
    Russia: $3,095
    Poland: $ 2,411

    Bulgaria: $1,214
    Romania: $1,100
    Albania $281

    Turkey $2,850

    2015 GDP per capita (nominal)

    Poland: $12,494
    Hungary: $12,252
    Russia $9,092

    Romania $8,972
    Bulgaria $6,993
    Montenegro $6,406
    Albania $3,945

    Turkey $9,130

    (Note how economically, Russia has slipped down to about Romania's/Turkey's level since the oil price has collapsed; despite it's much higher IQ and PISA performance relative to those two countries. This suggests how well the country has really been run economically)

    *Romania may stand out because a significant chunk of it - Transylvania - ceased being part of the Ottoman Empire in the late 1680s, about 200 years earlier than did the rest of Romania and the rest of the Balkans.

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  48. Parbes says:
    @Anonymous

    Syrian sympathizer murders Russian ambassador in Turkey while Russia and Turkey are at odds.
     
    Not since the coup attempt. Now they're friends. That is why Erdogan is sure to blame this on the Gulenists the US shelters.

    “Not since the coup attempt. Now they’re friends.’

    NO. The Putin-Lavrov team THINK (i.e., ARE DELUDING THEMSELVES) that they are friends. There’s a huge difference.

    A country like today’s Turkey, ruled by a tyrannical Islamist regime whose ideological pillars are aggressive Neo-Ottomanism and Muslim Brotherhood ideology, and brimming with Russia-hating jihadis, jihadi sympathizers, rabid anti-Slav/anti-Europe Turkish ultra-nationalists etc., cannot POSSIBLY become a friend or ally of Russia. The ideologies, mentalities and interests are diametrically opposed. The Erdogan regime is the direct sponsor of jihadis fighting in Syria against Russians and their Syrian allies, for Chrissakes! Geographically, without the Erdogan regime’s support, the U.S., Saudi Arabia and the rest of the Evil Pro-Jihad Coalition could do very little to aid their jihadi proxy-buddies in Syria against the Assad government.

    The Putin-Lavrov team’s pipedream of a Grand Eurasian Axis including Erdogan’s Turkey is just that – a silly dream.

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    FWIW, I see more head-covered women per capita in modern London than I saw in Beirut in 1983. No dictator there, but same result. It is a societal trend, a movement of culture and people we have not seen perhaps since the end of the western Roman Empire.
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  49. ussr andy says:

    not a Franz Ferdinand moment. more like a Griboyedov moment

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  50. @Alec Leamas
    At least they don't castrate the bacha bazi and pump them full of hormones.

    True, but those poor kids probably wind up having to wear diapers for the rest of their lives.

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  51. @wren
    Holy cow, those are iconic photos.

    They will be famous for decades to come.

    They’re already hilarious memes over on 8chan.

    Wokka wokka wokka!

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  52. Here’s the photographer’s account.

    https://www.apnews.com/eadca282d5d341a79bb464bbadc4fa11

    I’ll be very surprised if the “Travolta” image doesn’t win the World Press Photo award for 2017.

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    That art gallery just reeks of white. White walls, white floors. What is going on with the whiteness? I wonder if that's a eurothing that the Turks are copying or if all white is the cool trend for art galleries everywhere.

    When we visited Europe all the old art we saw was in old churches and museums. Maybe just the new ugly art is in these sterile, operating-room replicas.
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  53. @Parbes
    "Not since the coup attempt. Now they’re friends.'

    NO. The Putin-Lavrov team THINK (i.e., ARE DELUDING THEMSELVES) that they are friends. There's a huge difference.

    A country like today's Turkey, ruled by a tyrannical Islamist regime whose ideological pillars are aggressive Neo-Ottomanism and Muslim Brotherhood ideology, and brimming with Russia-hating jihadis, jihadi sympathizers, rabid anti-Slav/anti-Europe Turkish ultra-nationalists etc., cannot POSSIBLY become a friend or ally of Russia. The ideologies, mentalities and interests are diametrically opposed. The Erdogan regime is the direct sponsor of jihadis fighting in Syria against Russians and their Syrian allies, for Chrissakes! Geographically, without the Erdogan regime's support, the U.S., Saudi Arabia and the rest of the Evil Pro-Jihad Coalition could do very little to aid their jihadi proxy-buddies in Syria against the Assad government.

    The Putin-Lavrov team's pipedream of a Grand Eurasian Axis including Erdogan's Turkey is just that - a silly dream.

    FWIW, I see more head-covered women per capita in modern London than I saw in Beirut in 1983. No dictator there, but same result. It is a societal trend, a movement of culture and people we have not seen perhaps since the end of the western Roman Empire.

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    "I see more head-covered women per capita in modern London than I saw in Beirut in 1983'

    "Modern London", like most of "modern North-Northwestern Europe", is going down the drain - FAST. Unless there is some sort of a radical course correction, SOON, these places will look VERY different in, say, 40-50 years, from what they have looked like THROUGHOUT THEIR ENTIRE HISTORY - racially, socially, culturally, and physically (in terms of the general appearance of the towns and public spaces, their inhabitants, buildings and architecture etc.). Oh, sure, TODAY they still appear as "rich, advanced, First World societies" - but this is increasingly a superficial facade underneath which deep, degenerative changes are occurring.

    The only question now is, how much of Central, Eastern and Southern Europe will manage to escape these destructive socio-demographic-cultural alterations - this civilizational collapse and transformation.
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  54. Anonym says:
    @anon
    ** Takkiya Alert ** ** Takkiya Alert * * ** Islamic apologist detected * !!!!!

    Bacha-Bazi has roots in Iran and exists in several Islamic nations in addition to Afghanistan. Tajikistan , Iran , Pakistan , Turkey and Afghanistan are all places where Bacha-Bazi is entrenched.In Pakistan it is referred to as Bacha-Posh , in Turkey is referred to as Kocek . The boys are typically raped until such time as they are no longer Bacha-Berisha ( boys without beards).After their beards appear they are let loose and usually continue the repugnant circle with the apprehension of a younger boy for their own enjoyment .

    According to The Daily Times and WebCitation.org, a survey of Google searches reveals that six out of the top ten countries of search origin looking for sex-related sites online are from Islamic countries. Pakistan topped the list; Egypt is 2nd, Iran 4th, Morocco 5th, Saudi Arabia, 7th, and Turkey, 8th. Non-Islamic countries include Vietnam, which is 3rd, India, 6th, Philippines, 9th, and Poland, 10th.

    Turkish is the language most used when searching for child porn; Turkey is the country in which the second largest number of searches online occur for “child porn.”

    For “children sex,” Pakistan is again first, Egypt is again second, and Iran moves up to third. The most common languages used to search are Arabic and Turkish.

    For “sexy children,” Pakistan is again first, followed by Syria, Iran, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey.

    For “sexy child,” Pakistan is again first, followed by Iran, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Turkey. The most often used languages to search are Persian, Arabic, and Turkish.

    This is interesting, and certainly matches the Rotherham Pakistani child sex slavery/prostitution phenomenon, though it was females targeted.

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  55. TheJester says:

    I spent time in Bahrain and Kuwait in the 1990s. The way the women dressed reminded me of the United States in the 1950s … western casual and conservative.

    I now live in Northern Virginia. I see more hijabs and burkas in Northern Virginia than I saw in Bahrain and Kuwait. Where are these people coming from … and in such large numbers?

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    Pakistan, Somalia, Afghanistan
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  56. NOTA says:
    @anon
    ** Takkiya Alert ** ** Takkiya Alert * * ** Islamic apologist detected * !!!!!

    Bacha-Bazi has roots in Iran and exists in several Islamic nations in addition to Afghanistan. Tajikistan , Iran , Pakistan , Turkey and Afghanistan are all places where Bacha-Bazi is entrenched.In Pakistan it is referred to as Bacha-Posh , in Turkey is referred to as Kocek . The boys are typically raped until such time as they are no longer Bacha-Berisha ( boys without beards).After their beards appear they are let loose and usually continue the repugnant circle with the apprehension of a younger boy for their own enjoyment .

    According to The Daily Times and WebCitation.org, a survey of Google searches reveals that six out of the top ten countries of search origin looking for sex-related sites online are from Islamic countries. Pakistan topped the list; Egypt is 2nd, Iran 4th, Morocco 5th, Saudi Arabia, 7th, and Turkey, 8th. Non-Islamic countries include Vietnam, which is 3rd, India, 6th, Philippines, 9th, and Poland, 10th.

    Turkish is the language most used when searching for child porn; Turkey is the country in which the second largest number of searches online occur for “child porn.”

    For “children sex,” Pakistan is again first, Egypt is again second, and Iran moves up to third. The most common languages used to search are Arabic and Turkish.

    For “sexy children,” Pakistan is again first, followed by Syria, Iran, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey.

    For “sexy child,” Pakistan is again first, followed by Iran, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Turkey. The most often used languages to search are Persian, Arabic, and Turkish.

    If you want to be convincing, try engaging with facts and reason, rather than screaming “Islamic apologist.” Everyone here has already failed to be convinced by magic word arguments telling us that hbd arguments have racist cooties or sexist cooties; why fall for the next magic word argument?

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    NOTA

    Why do you believe that the case against importing millions of Muslims into the US and Europe requires mastering the finer details HBD multi-regression analysis? It is very hard to take the HBD movement very seriously as a political movement.

    European Men and Women colonized whole continents without having ever read one of Robert Plomin's study. They understood the supreme biological imperative of Racial Tribalism in their European guts....and soul.
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  57. NOTA says:
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    Islam claims that Allah is the universal god of mankind. Everyone who believes in him is saved, and everyone who doesn't is damned. It doesn't really get any more universal than that.

    Yeah, I think that’s part of being a prostheletizing religion–you think your god is universal, not just for a particular tribe or region or purpose. Muslims and Christians both have this belief–they and we believe there’s a single God whom everyone should worship. Otherwise, why bother wanting to convert others?

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  58. Yak-15 says:

    Where was the ambassador’s security detail?

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    That was my question, too. If there were any armed men assigned to protect the ambassador, the gunman should have had to shoot them first or he shouldn't have had much time to make his media statement before being shot.
    , @The Millennial Falcon
    He looked like he was the security detail.
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  59. Should there be blood on the floor? Or would it be absorbed in heavy clothing?

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    Don't ask too many questions now... wouldn't want to be considered a conspiracy theorist ya know.
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  60. @NOTA
    If you want to be convincing, try engaging with facts and reason, rather than screaming "Islamic apologist." Everyone here has already failed to be convinced by magic word arguments telling us that hbd arguments have racist cooties or sexist cooties; why fall for the next magic word argument?

    NOTA

    Why do you believe that the case against importing millions of Muslims into the US and Europe requires mastering the finer details HBD multi-regression analysis? It is very hard to take the HBD movement very seriously as a political movement.

    European Men and Women colonized whole continents without having ever read one of Robert Plomin’s study. They understood the supreme biological imperative of Racial Tribalism in their European guts….and soul.

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  61. NOTA says:
    @Yak-15
    Where was the ambassador's security detail?

    That was my question, too. If there were any armed men assigned to protect the ambassador, the gunman should have had to shoot them first or he shouldn’t have had much time to make his media statement before being shot.

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  62. snorlax says:
    @TheJester
    I spent time in Bahrain and Kuwait in the 1990s. The way the women dressed reminded me of the United States in the 1950s ... western casual and conservative.

    I now live in Northern Virginia. I see more hijabs and burkas in Northern Virginia than I saw in Bahrain and Kuwait. Where are these people coming from ... and in such large numbers?

    Pakistan, Somalia, Afghanistan

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  63. bomag says:
    @Whiskey
    The Muslim world has been in crisis for a very long time. The Ottomans face Arab nationalism long before WWI. Meanwhile Muslim societies were not competitive with even European Early Modern mercantilism, let alone industrialization. And nationalist / tribalist desires were there even during the Ottoman era. Nothing has made that better -- not Saddam, nor his overthrow, nor the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, the US war after 9/11, nothing.

    Erdogan made everything far worse betting on ISIS, but ISIS was just the inheritor of the Al Qaeda jihad brigades which in turn had a long heritage in Muslim society. ISIS is not really that different from Mohammed himself. What, Muslims want to be like Westerners? No. They **WANT** Sharia, Jihad, and daily beheadings. Erdogan backed down from War with Russia, and now he has to crack down on jihadis who seem deeply embedded within the security services; after picking a spectacular fight with the military that ended in a failed coup and the jailing of what, a good portion of the officers and enlisted men.

    Which means he's weak. Putin is going to demand a crackdown and hand-over of the people who aided the assassination. That means going right up against the only pillar of the Erdogan regime. **MAYBE** Erdogan can keep on, but that means basically throwing in with Putin and requiring Russian military forces to keep him in power. Having gutted his own military, he needs to get Russian help to purge his one remaining group of people with guns on his side.

    There's a good chance that Erdogan gets deposed and some Security Service people take over, throwing in their lot with ISIS and Islamization to the ISIS logical conclusion. But then, this has been in the making since at least 1453 and possibly 1071.

    The Muslim world has been in crisis for a very long time.

    That’s the human condition.

    Islam is on the march demographically; never letting a crisis go to waste, I guess.

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  64. Kubrick would have used a more spherical-looking lens effect.

    And he would have fussed over the shot forever. I know an actor who worked under him.

    Notice how anything in a white gallery room becomes art. It’s the packaging, not the contents. That’s something to think about the next time you’re in an art gallery looking at things that are actually crap.

    This killing qualifies as performance art. Too bad the Podestas weren’t there.

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    It is, as you say, mainly due to the white backgrounds that are reminiscent of the space station or final room in 2001. One could imagine Dr Heywood Floyd making polite chit chat with the Russian diplomats in such an ante room:

    "Other than that, Yuri, how was the art exhibition?"

    Steve has done a bangup job of comedically associating each still with the appropriate director.
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  65. @Anonymous
    Not being nasty, one could take that series of photographs as being some sort of 'modern' 'avant-garde' art installation, if one wasn't told otherwise.

    If this had happened in The United States or Western Europe, I imagine the bystanders would have had a hard time believing that the assassination was not performance art. You might even have heard them clapping at the end.

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    >If this had happened in The United States or Western Europe

    if this had happened in Israel - or perhaps in the OTHER Lone Star State - the assailant might very well have been shot when he first displayed a weapon
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  66. @J1234

    The extraordinarily cinematic-looking assassination....
     
    That was my impression, too. The great lighting and the high resolution give it an unprecedented creepiness. Also, the killer was a good looking guy, in a Hollywood kind of way. You have to wonder if it was all planned that way.

    I also agree. The first word that came to my mind was antiseptic, as it appears you could eat off the floor in that gallery.

    My second thought was the assassin looks like a Turkish Steve Carell and his exaggerated actions almost look like a Carell spoof.

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  67. 4 Observations:

    1. Its clear the CIA want Gulen to head Turkey. Remember 10 years ago there was another coup attempt by army generals in Turkey Steve. And they were more directly linked to Zion.

    2. Turkey only stays pro Zion as long as it has the carrot of EU membership, which is politically impossible even for blackmailed politicians like Hollande (the mistress incident was a warning, ergo he changed his policies radically after). That’s why Putin and Erdogan spoke immediately, Erdogan will flip to Russia, like Syria/Iran.

    3. The commentator Moshe above says we can’t see everything in terms of Zion….they have the highest IQs in the world, control western media, control large swathes of the Deep State and lower empathy than whites. Why wouldn’t they be behind most geopolitical events as an a priori conjecture? Sure not all Jews support Zion or want a Zionist world government, but if even 20% of them though, that’s roughly 10% of world wealth, media, deep state subjects and Wall Street funding – which is a lot for one unified cause. In reality, non zionist jews don’t exactly harangue them. Zion used the same techniques with Israelis – false flags, assassinations, media control – to conquer Israel to be fair. And they’ve lied to us about Iraq, Libya, the Blank Slate, Black crime, benefits of open borders etc etc causing untold damage already.

    4. Zion thrashing Trump and Russia and Turkey and Gentile whites is racking up a powerful coalition against them beyond just muslims. Note how radical muslims fight against their cucked Sunni royalty increasingly as the House of Saud allies with the Eye of Zion more explicitly. Saud/Zion/Cuckold whites vs Patriot Whites/Russia/Shiite and unknown elements like the Turks, Kurds, Radical Sunnis and China will be the main geopolitical configuration.

    YOU READ IT HERE FIRST.

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  68. iffen says:

    Do we know yet if any of the artwork was damaged?

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  69. How does this benefit Israel? That is the only question that matters…

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  70. dearieme says:
    @Anonymous
    Turkey is such a backwater. Look at the crap on the walls. It's another country with a tacky, garish, chaotic aesthetic ...reeks of low IQ and cousin-marrying. You know you're halfway to Pakistan.

    This assassin clearly said the word "jihadi" in his rant but I didn't hear any discussion of that fact in our media today.

    Clan based cultures have a national brain chemistry like bacon on a skillet. Their minds are frying, sizzling. A raging grease fire is always imminent.

    Anyway ...Nuclear Islam is near, boys!

    We need to Christianize them or else.

    “Turkey is such a backwater.” Indeed; but everyone I know who has been there has liked it.

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  71. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Had something like this happened here it would immediately have been attributed to the work of a ‘lone nut gunman’ and wrapped up quickly. Discussion would have revolved around the need for greater gun control and yet more security and domestic spying so as to keep ourselves safe. Childhood photos would be dug up and family stories of dysfunction would be opened up for speculation about the psychological quirks that created the situation. Over there it’s immediately assumed there’s a network of people behind it with Putin’s statement about finding ‘who directed the killer’s hand’. The Turks are acting true to form by trying to pin the blame on someone they have it in for, in this case Gulen and his followers. Turkish government agents are the ones who staged the Ghouta gas attack in a bid to blame the Syrian government for it and provide a pretext for US intervention so misdirection is standard operating procedure for them.

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    See Ron Unz's column on the CIA creating the "term conspiracy" theory. English speaking countries are pretty much the only ones in the world where large numbers of people really believe these type of things are the work of "lone nuts". This is the consequence of a good thing, being high trust societies, but can be an obvious disadvantage in low trust environments.
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  72. cmpx says:
    @Anon
    The people who currently occupy most of the Middle East have not always lived there. Large swaths of the region -- and we're talking Egypt to India and beyond (including Turkey) -- used to be inhabited by European peoples. Even the original population of ancient Mesopotamia, Sumer, which is in present day Iraq, spoke an Indo-European language before they were (likely) overwhelmed/pushed out/exterminated by semitic tribes who had previously been more or less relegated to the lower portion of the Arabian peninsula. For the last several thousand years, those tribes have spread like a plague from Morocco to Pakistan, in a wave that is obviously ongoing. Turkey is also often speculated as being one of the places where the first Indo-European tribes originated or at least spread south into the rest of the ME from.

    “The people who currently occupy most of the Middle East have not always lived there. Large swaths of the region — and we’re talking Egypt to India and beyond (including Turkey) — used to be inhabited by European peoples”

    We now have ancient DNA from much of the middle east, and this is completely wrong.

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    No, it's not. You're misinformed.
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  73. JimB says:

    In the interest of better relations with Moscow, Erdogan should let the KGB set up shop and find the conspirators, along with all their family members. Then make them disappear. The best deterrent against terrorism in the third world is to make terrorists know that their entire family tree will be extirpated, including momma in the burqa, papa and his water pipe, the uncles, cousins, and nieces, all out to the third degree.

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    Agree. Have long been of this opinion; "it's the only language they understand", unfortunately. Mini-genocides, I suppose. I prefer to see it as good old-fashioned blood-feud.
    , @Jim Don Bob
    Yeah, like this only more so: http://articles.latimes.com/1986-01-07/news/mn-13892_1_soviets
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  74. @eah
    The attacker was smartly dressed in black suit and tie

    https://twitter.com/RichardBSpencer/status/810951861310197760

    The attacker was smartly dressed in black suit and tie

    It’s all so Robert Longo.

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  75. CK says:
    @anon
    The adherents to the religion of peace have had a busy day today . First the assassination of the Russian ambassador mentioned by Steve . Then the terror attack at a Christmas market in Germany .

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4049442/Terror-attack-fears-lorry-ploughs-Christmas-market-Berlin-leaving-two-people-dead.html


    Also 2 separate articles in the mainstream press , regarding Bacha Bazi of all things .

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/bacha-bazi-afghan-subculture-child-sex-slaves-065341302.html

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/afghan-bacha-bazi-kidnappings-search-victims-063508035.html

    Excerpts : Bacha bazi has seen a chilling resurgence in post-Taliban Afghanistan, where it is not widely perceived as homosexual or un-Islamic behaviour.

    Young boys dressed effeminately have an ornamental value in a society where the genders are tightly corralled. Their possession is a mark of social status, power and masculinity

    “Rampant bacha bazi is ruining our society,” said Hamdard. “Our children grow up believing that raping boys is normal.”

    "Women are for child-rearing, boys are for pleasure" is a common saying across many parts of Afghanistan.


    When can we import more of these fine muslim gentlemen into the USA ?????????????

    We already did, how soon we forget Omar “Orlando” Mateen.

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    It had been a while since Omar Mateen. Someone's shower thought on reddit - that it is interesting that there was a relatively long hiatus between major terror attacks and the results of the US presidential election. I looked up the Islamic Terror timeline on wikipedia, and it is largely correct. But it's a good thing that the attacks have continued, enhancing Trump's mandate.

    https://m.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5jcvok/showerthought_isis_stopped_committing_terrorist/

    In other news re: Islamic Terror, I note that the top comment at Breitbart references Steve's "Magic Dirt" concept as "Magic Soil". Obviously along the way the meme has encountered someone who deals with soil in a technical way and was unhappy with the lay term for dirt. Maybe a "blood and dirt" nationalist will change it back. Or not.

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/12/20/afd-hits-merkel-christmas-market-attack-dead/
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  76. Dave says:
    @Anon
    The people who currently occupy most of the Middle East have not always lived there. Large swaths of the region -- and we're talking Egypt to India and beyond (including Turkey) -- used to be inhabited by European peoples. Even the original population of ancient Mesopotamia, Sumer, which is in present day Iraq, spoke an Indo-European language before they were (likely) overwhelmed/pushed out/exterminated by semitic tribes who had previously been more or less relegated to the lower portion of the Arabian peninsula. For the last several thousand years, those tribes have spread like a plague from Morocco to Pakistan, in a wave that is obviously ongoing. Turkey is also often speculated as being one of the places where the first Indo-European tribes originated or at least spread south into the rest of the ME from.

    This is largely true with the exception being that Sumerian was not an Indo European language.
    Sumerian was an agglutinative language, like Hungarian and Finnish and Dravidian in India.
    The Kurds and Yazidis are the remnants of much larger Indo European speaking peoples who inhabited Western Asia for millenia before the spread of Islam and ensuing demographic explosion of Arabs.

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    Actually, Sumerian was considered to be an Indo-European language ... then it wasn't ... but now there's good evidence that it in fact was. The confusion stems from Sumerian/"Euphratic" being overtaken/absorbed by Akkadian, which is a semitic language.

    http://science.org.ge/old/moambe/2-3/Gordon%20Whitteker.pdf
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  77. peterike says:

    Very Bertolucci.

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    Yup, that's it.

    I finally watched Bertolucci's The Conformist a year or two ago and it was obvious that it had a huge impact on famous 1970s American directors.

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  78. peterike says:
    @Moshe
    "The Tribal Agenda".

    You can make worldly events fit any narrative you like. There are enough events going on that it's not hard to string together whatever prosecution case you like.

    And jews, being more interesting and successful than whatever people you come from, are likely to be somehow or other at least tangentially involved in many of the various things going on in the world. Something which is not the case for most other small peoples.

    Now, string together a couple of things here and there such as how Jews Like Israel and such, can make you believe that there is some sort of octopus Jewish command center or at least some sort of hive mind that's directs Jews in the same direction.

    Neither are the case. However, considering how ridiculously censored any discussion of Jews is in the West, the only people putting together any sort of narrative are people who don't care much for Jews or are looking for a scapegoat or whatever.

    And I definitely can't blame people - who obviously notice the censorship despite the fact that plenty of Jews appear to be doing interesting stuff and interesting places - for eseeing that narrative as one that has a lot of merit.

    In fact, I imagine that if I myself did not know so much about the subject (I'm something of an authority on the matter) I would likely come to similar conclusions, or at least consider them. In fact comma I can't imagine how any free thinking person wouldn't at least consider such conclusions.

    But, while it's too long to get into in a blog post, the actual narrative is, obviously more complex than any simplistic narrative, but also one that does not include Jewish individuals moving in concert except for those who do so publicly. People of Jewish descent enjoy the stage, and it takes something like a Mossad vow to keep them from blabbing. Even then it often doesn't help.

    The problem however is that people looking for an anti Jewish narrative tend to only focus on Jews on one side of the equation. The extreme left knows the details about every Jew on the right while the extreme-right knows the details about every Jew on the left.

    It would be wonderful, for me anyway, if there actually was some coordinated effort to bring Jews to the top of the mountain.

    Any large coordinated effort, or even uncoordinated ambitions in the same direction, is able to accomplish great things. And obviously, those are no ordinary people.

    Chosen or not, while they've always been small in number, Jews have been busier in every field imaginable doing interesting things. And even if you knew all of them that you can gather from Wikipedia, you would still only know a tenth of it. Because 9/10s of it, unfortunately, has been religious nonsense. But unbelievably extraordinarily brilliant religious nonsense.

    So again, if Jews were all moving in the same direction there would not have been a holocaust only a few years ago and at least the entire Middle East would be included within the state of Israel.

    Anyhow, for dictating by phone, this will have to do.

    if Jews were all moving in the same direction there would not have been a holocaust only a few years ago

    I think you meant to say “weren’t” instead of “were.”

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    If that's dark humor, well done. If I failed to make myself clear however, what I'm saying, is that they're obviously would not have been a holocaust if a people as extraordinary as Jews were all working together on each other's behalf.
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  79. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @cmpx
    "The people who currently occupy most of the Middle East have not always lived there. Large swaths of the region — and we’re talking Egypt to India and beyond (including Turkey) — used to be inhabited by European peoples"

    We now have ancient DNA from much of the middle east, and this is completely wrong.

    No, it’s not. You’re misinformed.

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  80. @peterike
    Very Bertolucci.

    http://dl9fvu4r30qs1.cloudfront.net/25/b9/9ede5f9e49c8997322e0010a4e93/the-conformist.jpg

    Yup, that’s it.

    I finally watched Bertolucci’s The Conformist a year or two ago and it was obvious that it had a huge impact on famous 1970s American directors.

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    Yup, that’s it.
     
    Aesthetically, I’m thinking you should continue your recent ‘80s jag and replace the Euro-voguing ‘60s Bertolucci with the cold monochrome (+red) slickness of Longo. Seems more fitting.
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  81. @PiltdownMan
    Here's the photographer's account.

    https://www.apnews.com/eadca282d5d341a79bb464bbadc4fa11

    I'll be very surprised if the "Travolta" image doesn't win the World Press Photo award for 2017.

    https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/media:f2d6bc546ba3441588a85fa3ebb30530/800.jpeg

    That art gallery just reeks of white. White walls, white floors. What is going on with the whiteness? I wonder if that’s a eurothing that the Turks are copying or if all white is the cool trend for art galleries everywhere.

    When we visited Europe all the old art we saw was in old churches and museums. Maybe just the new ugly art is in these sterile, operating-room replicas.

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  82. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Dave
    This is largely true with the exception being that Sumerian was not an Indo European language.
    Sumerian was an agglutinative language, like Hungarian and Finnish and Dravidian in India.
    The Kurds and Yazidis are the remnants of much larger Indo European speaking peoples who inhabited Western Asia for millenia before the spread of Islam and ensuing demographic explosion of Arabs.

    Actually, Sumerian was considered to be an Indo-European language … then it wasn’t … but now there’s good evidence that it in fact was. The confusion stems from Sumerian/”Euphratic” being overtaken/absorbed by Akkadian, which is a semitic language.

    http://science.org.ge/old/moambe/2-3/Gordon%20Whitteker.pdf

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  83. How do you know when Zion is losing a war:

    (a) The media starts painting the opposing commander as even more cartoonishly deranged and evil than the start of the war.
    (b) The Necromancer sends his own troops into battle to aid his vassal state auxiliaries at the 11th hour.
    (c) Zion starts doing highly emotional things like assassinating ambassadors and using its media to declare war on the Duke of Muscovy for interfering with its Middle Eastern death march eastward.
    (d) The Illusion starts to ‘glitch’ more openly to even member of the public. By which I mean even common sense archetypes to the public like ‘Democrats are supposed to oppose republicans’ and vice versa break down. And so we have the spectacle of Dan Senor, senior Romney advisor, leaking the locker room tape to help Hilary and Weekly Standard ‘arch conservative’ Bill Kristol running McMullin in Utah to the same purpose; and on the other side, Schumer and Obama invoking Reagan and reigniting the cold war and continuing Bush’s foreign policies.

    I expect more glitches will happen because they are only glitches if you have a ‘public memory’ and those like Steve who notice them with the internet. They control the publishers, tv, magazines, newspapers and Hollywood/music, but not the internet, even with Google/Facebook.

    In time, Zion will realise it must censor the internet. As it was the internet that led to Trump despite a full court press from the media (which itself is another major ‘glitch’ in the archetype ‘the media is the watchdog of the state’).

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  85. @eah
    The attacker was smartly dressed in black suit and tie

    https://twitter.com/RichardBSpencer/status/810951861310197760

    More Longo. The assassin must have struck at least one of these poses when getting drilled by the cops. In an art gallery no less.

    (Click on view content for the Tweet pic.)

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  86. Clyde says:

    Luminous Dominique Sanda- http://www.dominiquesanda.com/
    Damnation Alley with Jan-Michael Vincent (great B science fiction)
    The MacKintosh Man (1973) with Paul Newman (intriguing because Sanda)
    The Conformist

    She probably hated living/working in Hollywood, otherwise she would have approached super stardom.

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  87. @Yak-15
    Where was the ambassador's security detail?

    He looked like he was the security detail.

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  88. Anonym says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    Kubrick would have used a more spherical-looking lens effect.

    And he would have fussed over the shot forever. I know an actor who worked under him.

    Notice how anything in a white gallery room becomes art. It's the packaging, not the contents. That's something to think about the next time you're in an art gallery looking at things that are actually crap.

    This killing qualifies as performance art. Too bad the Podestas weren't there.

    It is, as you say, mainly due to the white backgrounds that are reminiscent of the space station or final room in 2001. One could imagine Dr Heywood Floyd making polite chit chat with the Russian diplomats in such an ante room:

    “Other than that, Yuri, how was the art exhibition?”

    Steve has done a bangup job of comedically associating each still with the appropriate director.

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  89. @For what it's worth
    Should there be blood on the floor? Or would it be absorbed in heavy clothing?

    Don’t ask too many questions now… wouldn’t want to be considered a conspiracy theorist ya know.

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  90. Anonym says:
    @CK
    We already did, how soon we forget Omar "Orlando" Mateen.

    It had been a while since Omar Mateen. Someone’s shower thought on reddit – that it is interesting that there was a relatively long hiatus between major terror attacks and the results of the US presidential election. I looked up the Islamic Terror timeline on wikipedia, and it is largely correct. But it’s a good thing that the attacks have continued, enhancing Trump’s mandate.

    https://m.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5jcvok/showerthought_isis_stopped_committing_terrorist/

    In other news re: Islamic Terror, I note that the top comment at Breitbart references Steve’s “Magic Dirt” concept as “Magic Soil”. Obviously along the way the meme has encountered someone who deals with soil in a technical way and was unhappy with the lay term for dirt. Maybe a “blood and dirt” nationalist will change it back. Or not.

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/12/20/afd-hits-merkel-christmas-market-attack-dead/

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    the top comment at Breitbart references Steve’s “Magic Dirt” concept as “Magic Soil”
     
    Steve has a really good sense for catchy phrases. "Magic dirt" is much more compelling than "Magic soil."

    It would be an interesting strategy for those on the other side to start using Steve's phrases with small mistakes in order to undermine their psychological impact.

    Loot the world, lure the world.
    Occam's table knife.
    etc
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  91. @Steve Sailer
    Yup, that's it.

    I finally watched Bertolucci's The Conformist a year or two ago and it was obvious that it had a huge impact on famous 1970s American directors.

    Yup, that’s it.

    Aesthetically, I’m thinking you should continue your recent ‘80s jag and replace the Euro-voguing ‘60s Bertolucci with the cold monochrome (+red) slickness of Longo. Seems more fitting.

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    P.S., Feel free to nix the above comment if it’s a bit presumptuous. (I figured it was worth a shot after winning the Great Ellipses War of 2016.)
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  92. AP says:

    This seems to highlight a difference between Turkish and other Islamic terrorism: the Turkish terrorist killed an official representative of the Russian State, and did not go after tourists or other civilians,as occurs in Egypt, Tunisia, etc. (there are many civilian Russians vacationing in Turkey). Similarly, none of the recent attacks in Europe seem to have involved Turks.

    Obviously what was done was a crime, and one’s heart goes out to the Ambassador’s family. But the difference between this assassination in Turkey and what occurs in other Muslim countries is rather striking.

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  93. AP says:
    @Anon
    The people who currently occupy most of the Middle East have not always lived there. Large swaths of the region -- and we're talking Egypt to India and beyond (including Turkey) -- used to be inhabited by European peoples. Even the original population of ancient Mesopotamia, Sumer, which is in present day Iraq, spoke an Indo-European language before they were (likely) overwhelmed/pushed out/exterminated by semitic tribes who had previously been more or less relegated to the lower portion of the Arabian peninsula. For the last several thousand years, those tribes have spread like a plague from Morocco to Pakistan, in a wave that is obviously ongoing. Turkey is also often speculated as being one of the places where the first Indo-European tribes originated or at least spread south into the rest of the ME from.

    Chaldeans (Iraqi Christians) claim to be the descendants of the original Babylonian inhabitants of Mesopotamia, who were swamped by Arabs. Chaldeans are not Indo-Europeans.

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  94. Svigor says:

    +1 for good trigger discipline

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    +1 for good trigger discipline

    He was very careful not to shoot the photographers, although he was himself shot.

    BTW Google Translate translates "Altintas" as "Gold Stone". FWIW.
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  95. eD says:
    @anonymous
    Had something like this happened here it would immediately have been attributed to the work of a 'lone nut gunman' and wrapped up quickly. Discussion would have revolved around the need for greater gun control and yet more security and domestic spying so as to keep ourselves safe. Childhood photos would be dug up and family stories of dysfunction would be opened up for speculation about the psychological quirks that created the situation. Over there it's immediately assumed there's a network of people behind it with Putin's statement about finding 'who directed the killer's hand'. The Turks are acting true to form by trying to pin the blame on someone they have it in for, in this case Gulen and his followers. Turkish government agents are the ones who staged the Ghouta gas attack in a bid to blame the Syrian government for it and provide a pretext for US intervention so misdirection is standard operating procedure for them.

    See Ron Unz’s column on the CIA creating the “term conspiracy” theory. English speaking countries are pretty much the only ones in the world where large numbers of people really believe these type of things are the work of “lone nuts”. This is the consequence of a good thing, being high trust societies, but can be an obvious disadvantage in low trust environments.

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  96. AP says:
    @Jefferson
    " Bulgarian culture is more Turkish than European."

    No it isn't. If it was Bulgaria would be a Muslim nation.

    While you are correct – Christianity is a huge factor with respect to culture, which is why a Mexican Mestizo is probably more “European” than is a blonde Muslim Chechen – and Akuleyev oversold his point, there is indeed a very strong divide between the Balkans (particularly, those countries that did achieve formal independence from the Ottoman Empire until the late 1870s) and the rest of Europe in terms of income, PISA scores, and average IQ. Let’s compare Balkan to non-Balkan Eastern Europe.

    Lynn’s IQ:

    Poland 99
    Hungary 98
    Russia 97

    Romania 94*
    Bulgaria 93
    Macedonia 91
    Bosnia 90
    Albania 90
    Serbia 89

    Turkey 90

    (in comparison, African Americans: 87)

    Mean PISA scores:

    Poland 521
    Hungary 487
    Russia 481

    Serbia 447
    Bulgaria 440
    Romania 440
    Albania 395

    Turkey 462

    (in comparison, African Americans: 434)

    1992 GDP per capita (nominal):

    Hungary: $3,714
    Russia: $3,095
    Poland: $ 2,411

    Bulgaria: $1,214
    Romania: $1,100
    Albania $281

    Turkey $2,850

    2015 GDP per capita (nominal)

    Poland: $12,494
    Hungary: $12,252
    Russia $9,092

    Romania $8,972
    Bulgaria $6,993
    Montenegro $6,406
    Albania $3,945

    Turkey $9,130

    (Note how economically, Russia has slipped down to about Romania’s/Turkey’s level since the oil price has collapsed; despite it’s much higher IQ and PISA performance relative to those two countries. This suggests how well the country has really been run economically)

    *Romania may stand out because a significant chunk of it – Transylvania – ceased being part of the Ottoman Empire in the late 1680s, about 200 years earlier than did the rest of Romania and the rest of the Balkans.

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  97. @BB753
    "When can we import more of these fine muslim gentlemen into the USA ?????????????"

    Indeed, they'd be great at running pizza joints and other pizza-related businesses.

    Is that a reference to pizzagate?

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    Both to Omar Mateen, whose family ran a Pizza place, and to Pizzagate, indeed. Afghanis have much needed skills in Washington, that is, Basha Bazi, the sexual exploitation of minors.
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  98. iffen says:
    @Moshe
    "The Tribal Agenda".

    You can make worldly events fit any narrative you like. There are enough events going on that it's not hard to string together whatever prosecution case you like.

    And jews, being more interesting and successful than whatever people you come from, are likely to be somehow or other at least tangentially involved in many of the various things going on in the world. Something which is not the case for most other small peoples.

    Now, string together a couple of things here and there such as how Jews Like Israel and such, can make you believe that there is some sort of octopus Jewish command center or at least some sort of hive mind that's directs Jews in the same direction.

    Neither are the case. However, considering how ridiculously censored any discussion of Jews is in the West, the only people putting together any sort of narrative are people who don't care much for Jews or are looking for a scapegoat or whatever.

    And I definitely can't blame people - who obviously notice the censorship despite the fact that plenty of Jews appear to be doing interesting stuff and interesting places - for eseeing that narrative as one that has a lot of merit.

    In fact, I imagine that if I myself did not know so much about the subject (I'm something of an authority on the matter) I would likely come to similar conclusions, or at least consider them. In fact comma I can't imagine how any free thinking person wouldn't at least consider such conclusions.

    But, while it's too long to get into in a blog post, the actual narrative is, obviously more complex than any simplistic narrative, but also one that does not include Jewish individuals moving in concert except for those who do so publicly. People of Jewish descent enjoy the stage, and it takes something like a Mossad vow to keep them from blabbing. Even then it often doesn't help.

    The problem however is that people looking for an anti Jewish narrative tend to only focus on Jews on one side of the equation. The extreme left knows the details about every Jew on the right while the extreme-right knows the details about every Jew on the left.

    It would be wonderful, for me anyway, if there actually was some coordinated effort to bring Jews to the top of the mountain.

    Any large coordinated effort, or even uncoordinated ambitions in the same direction, is able to accomplish great things. And obviously, those are no ordinary people.

    Chosen or not, while they've always been small in number, Jews have been busier in every field imaginable doing interesting things. And even if you knew all of them that you can gather from Wikipedia, you would still only know a tenth of it. Because 9/10s of it, unfortunately, has been religious nonsense. But unbelievably extraordinarily brilliant religious nonsense.

    So again, if Jews were all moving in the same direction there would not have been a holocaust only a few years ago and at least the entire Middle East would be included within the state of Israel.

    Anyhow, for dictating by phone, this will have to do.

    Describe to me the pattern that you want to see and I can find it.

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    Applies to models too. See Climate, Change.

    Been there. Done that. Alas, no t-shirt. ;-(

    , @Moshe
    Exactly right, that's my point. Did I come across as implying differently? If I did, I would prefer to blame it on my phone's dictation than on myself :)
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  99. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Yup, that’s it.
     
    Aesthetically, I’m thinking you should continue your recent ‘80s jag and replace the Euro-voguing ‘60s Bertolucci with the cold monochrome (+red) slickness of Longo. Seems more fitting.

    P.S., Feel free to nix the above comment if it’s a bit presumptuous. (I figured it was worth a shot after winning the Great Ellipses War of 2016.)

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    "I figured it was worth a shot after winning the Great Ellipses War of 2016."
    Now now Miss Jenny. According to to Strunk & White's Style Guide page 88, ellipses are only to be used for omission.
    You must have read the Derrida/Foucault 'How To Mess Things Up' guide.
    Sad. :)
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  100. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Because a Muslim done it, this is being called ‘terrorism’ from many quarters, but is it?

    Terrorism means killing ‘innocent’ civilians in a political act.

    In this case, the killer specifically targeted a political figure.

    Is political assassination an act of terrorism? I think we have to be careful with words.

    US tried to assassinate Castro. Was it terrorism? If US targeted innocent Cubans, that would be terrorism. Killing a political leader/figure, no.
    It’s been said US had a hand in the assassination of Diem.
    And there are still theories of how CIA-Pentagon complex killed Kennedy, though I think Oswald did it alone. Whoever did it, it wasn’t terrorism.

    Speaking of spectacular assassinations, Booth’s killing of Lincoln probably tops all. If they had videos back then, that would made for some footage, esp as so many in the theater thought it was part of the act. Wilkes’ act was not terrorism but assassination.
    The Muslim hostage-taking and mayhem in the Moscow theater, now that was terrorism as innocents were targeted.

    Assassination has negative connotations, but assassination has been romanticized in some movies. Fritz Lang’s MANHUNT is about a would-be assassin of Hitler. In MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE, the assassination at the end where son kills mother saves the nation. A movie like DAY OF THE JACKAL is more ambiguous. While the hired would-be assassin of Degaulle clearly needs to be stopped, there’s something impressive about his cool professionalism. This is excellent commentary:

    It used to be terror and assassination were dominated by anarchists. What happened to this kind of terror? /

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    Were anarchists done in by their more organized comrades, the communists? Anarchists were more frightful and destructive than the communists, but their Achilles Heel was anti-statism. And that meant they would lose to both the far right and the far left. It’s like the Kinski character in DOCTOR ZHIVAGO. He’s an anarchist who alienates and lashes out at everyone. In contrast, Yevgraf is part of a disciplined organization. In Spain, Stalin’s communists wiped out the anarchists. And they were wiped out in all other communist nations. In the capitalist nations, anarchists mostly turned to the arts or decadent forms of radicalism like Yippie-ism and Hippie-ism. While some anarchists were diehard ideologues, it seems many were just looking for youthful action and excitement. When youth culture and pop culture took off after WWII, anarchists could no longer throw bombs for youth excitement. They could just use drugs and rock n roll. Or join a punk band and do pretend-revolution to the Clash or Sex Pistols.
    But there was one time when anarchists struck terror in the hearts of many. I think this dark history has been suppressed by the Media Narrative since anarchists were on the Left. They often served as left-wing death squads, and many leaders and figures in late 19th century and early 20th century — and police men too — were killed by anarchists in this era. But anarchists also threw bombs and committed acts of terror that targeted ‘innocent’ civilians though, to be sure, anarchists surely thought any bourgeois member of society was part of the tyranny.
    In Zola’s GERMINAL, the anarchist Souvarine is even willing to sacrifice workers in the mine to bring down the capitalist system.

    Nowadays, we usually conflate assassinations and terrorism with Islam. Anarchists do commit violence as ‘antifa’, but it’s usually vandalism — like in Seattle after Trump’s win — than bombs and killings.

    But terrorism debate is also a war of words.
    When US cooks up lies about Iraq and invades, isn’t that terrorism? Or when US uses sanctions to destroy 100,00os of innocent women and children, isn’t that terrorism?
    When US pledges support when Israel rains down bombs on Gaza in the killing of 1000s of civilians, isn’t that terrorism? When Israel ordered the killing of Iranian scientists, NYT put quotes around ‘terrorism’.
    Also, because US does so much killing from the air, even anti-terrorist actions turn into quasi-terrorist acts due to collateral damage. If US takes action to assassinate a terrorist and uses a drone strike that wipes out everyone at a wedding, what is that?

    And when does war itself become terrorism? Chechens were nutty, but did Russia really have to raze entire cities in Chechnya? The pictures from that campaign are frightening.

    Assassinations or terrorism, there are various kinds, and every side is cynical and selective in determining that is and isn’t terror.

    Take the terrorist acts aided and abetted by the British in LAWRENCE OF ARABIA. Turkish train is attacked and everyone is killed. Arabs loot everything.
    That would be what?
    Imperialist Terrorism in service of British Empire?
    Anti-imperialist Terrorism against the Turkish Empire?
    Nationalist Terrorism for Arab Independence?

    Some people on the Alt Right are lauding the new STAR WARS movie for greater complexity. It’s not spotless good vs totally evil bad but a world where even the good must fight dirty to win. Like in Pan’s Babyrinse.

    Assassinations/terrorism can be anarchist or part of some ideology, Jihadist or religious, nationalist, imperialist, anti-imperialist, communist, American-exceptionalist(neo-imperialist), cultist, pathological(though nutjobs like Travis Bickle are convinced that it is a political mission; David Chapman moralized his pointless killing of Lennon), criminal(like in GODFATHER or more sloppily among black gangstas). The killing of Oswald by Ruby. Was that political or criminal?

    I think, in the sweep of history, the only kind of assassination/terrorism that might be somewhat justified is the nationalist kind.
    Though the Algerian terror in BATTLE OF ALGIERS is terrifying, it was an effort to gain national independence. It’s like RED DAWN. If a foreign nation militarily occupied your community in America and if foreigners colonized your town, would it be justified to kill foreign troops/figures and even use bombs against colonizers? I think most Americans should say yes.
    I say EU is now ruled by globalist collaborator-traitors who are allowing massive colonization of Europe by invader-hordes. These are radical times.

    Russia had tons of assassins in its history, not least because the Tsarist order suppressed much freedom when rest of Europe was moving forward. But the problem was the Tsarist order, as repressive as it was, wasn’t repressive enough(like the later Bolshevik order whose NKVD made Tsarist police look like pussycats). And of course, lots of Jews were pissed too. But it wasn’t just the Jews. Many in the intelligentsia got radicalized. And things got so bad that even reformers like Stolypin got targeted. In some ways, the radicals feared the reformers more because reform might alleviate conditions and make revolution impossible. Others thought there was nihilistic redemption in the act of violence itself.

    Lenin’s older brother was executed for his role in the anti-Tsar plot.
    Terrorism and assassination became so much a part of Russian culture(and in its republics like Georgia that spawned Stalin) that Lenin himself became a target of a plot. Stalin finally got rid of this culture of terror by using Great Terror to make sure everyone understood who was boss.

    Ironically, even though Russian authorities were the target of revolutionary terror, their power also inspired assassination and terror among other peoples who looked to Russia as counter-force against other imperialists. And Russia exploited this.
    There was the death of archduke Ferdinand by Serbian nationalist at a time when Serbians looked to Russia for support. And perhaps the Korean who killed the Japanese diplomat also hoped for Russian support against Japan. Looking to Russia for support against Japan continued even after Russia turned communist.

    And now it’s come full circle, with some Muslim killing a Russian diplomat as the symbol of Russia’s propping up secular Assad against radical Muslim takeover in Syria.

    This killing seems to be Jihadist or religious. It’s not nationalist since the killer isn’t Syrian. And he didn’t kill for Turkey either. Rather, he seems to be motivated by the same thing that done in Sadat.

    As for the killing of Gaddafi that delighted Hillary so much, what was that? More like lynching than assassination or execution.
    Mussolini was properly executed but then his body got worse treatment than Gaddafi’s. More like desecrationism.

    What would the killing of Osama Bin Laden count as? Revenge-assassination?

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    In some ways, perhaps most ways, it is "Who, whom?"

    As a practical matter, I am on my side and it is pretty obvious that History did not End in 1992, as Fukuyama posited. By my side I mean the side of myself, my family, other NW Europeans, and other Europeans generally, except Muslim Europeans and those who would see me race replaced.
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  101. Bill B. says:

    The new normal, apparently. From Deutsche Welle.

    “Demanding new laws and restrictions in a hectic knee-jerk reaction is definitely not called for. The state cannot guarantee 100 percent security. German Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere already said after the attacks of Ansbach and Würzburg last summer that a free and open society has to get used to dealing with extreme situations. We have to get used to these kinds of tragedies if we want to maintain our openness as a society.”

    Rolf Tophoven is the director of the Institute for Crisis Prevention (IFUS) in Essen.

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  102. I came to iSteve for the incisive political commentary. I stayed for the thoughtful film criticism.

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  103. Svigor says:

    In the Travolta shot, either the necktie has experienced some rather extraordinary physics, or the poor ambassador has only just hit the ground.

    Also, the jihadi seems to have a very long left index finger.

    The photos on the walls look like stuff you might see on somebody’s facebook page.

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  104. Svigor says:

    The CIA uses illegal means like drug running to fund black ops. Gulen’s charter school skimming operation may be used to fund CIA black ops as well.

    This is a common urban legend, but I’ve never seen any real evidence to support it. Mostly it seems to be mere supposition, based on spooks using criminals as informants and proxies, and looking the other way regarding their crimes.

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  105. Svigor says:

    Ah, my mistake; it’s apparent from another pic that the ambassador’s tie is pulled through his vest.

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  106. @Anonymous
    About damn time.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZK2FZGKAd0

    Laughable black comedy. If the Russians took this seriously, this twat would be found dead with a bullet in the back of his head tomorrow. One more reason President Trump needs to purge the CIA comprehensively and quickly.

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  107. Alfa158 says:
    @George
    "bravely kept photographing."

    Hey iSteve, Do you say that about people videoing the police beating people up?

    No, because the police aren’t likely to shoot the people who are recording them making an arrest.

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  108. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Trintignant was also an assassin in Le Combat Dans L’ile, an excellent film.

    http://www.tcm.com/mediaroom/video/629058/Le-Combat-Dans-L-Ile-Movie-Clip-Power-Must-Be-Seized.html

    That Ankara killer with Men-in-Black style seems more Mod. A Modslem.
    He has chic sense of style.

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  109. Cagey Beast says: • Website

    Assassination of Russian Ambassador Andrei Karlov was not terrorism, but retribution for Vladimir Putin’s war crimes
    Gersh Kuntzman
    NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
    Tuesday, December 20, 2016, 10:43 AM

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/don-cry-russia-slain-envoy-putin-lackey-article-1.2917281

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    Thanks for posting Mr. Kuntzman's article, which I found truly disgusting. It's the same POV that gloats whenever an Iranian scientist is murdered. It's your typical commie POV whereby everything is political, you are either with us or against us, and if you aren't with us, then your murder is righteous.

    It's interesting that the soi disant Native American professor in Colorado lost his job for describing the 9/11 victims as "little Eichmanns" (other East Coast eggheads said similar things) but Mr. Kuntzman will probably get away with this.
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  110. Alfa158 says:

    The Conformist was my favorite movie when I was in college. I have the disc, and the movie still holds up well viewed almost half a century on. I even preferred Bertolucci’s ending, which was completely different from the original novel.
    Also Dominique Sanda. Hubba-hubba.

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  111. Truth says:

    Alright, so how many 140+ IQ geniuses here were fooled?

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    "Alright, so how many 140+ IQ geniuses here were fooled?"

    Right, because the guy narrating that video (which offered no proof for his contention, by the way) sounded so smart.
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  112. Anonym says:
    @Anonymous
    About damn time.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZK2FZGKAd0

    About damn time.

    He wants to do a lot of things… why exactly? One thing we’ve learned is that we are better off with secular dictators than a caliphate. However, you’ve got the problem that anyone you make rich will tend to want to advance his ethno-religious interest. Be that Saudi princes funding mosques or Chinese building up bases in the South China Sea.

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    Why? Because if Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad and his Russian allies win the civil war then there will be 10 million refugees coming to Europe as Putin and his puppet laugh up their sleeves.. No, we cannot leave this thing alone, and if we have to confront Russia then so be it. Stopping an invasion are what the hugely expensive millitary forces of the West are for. They must be used now.
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  113. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    It’s Inception. It’s Looper. The guy also looks like Keith Gordon in BACK TO SCHOOL.

    Or if Tarantino had been a Muslim and chose Jihad over movies.

    PS. Tarantino looks like a skinny Michael Moore, and Moore looks like a fat Tarantino.

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  114. Parbes says:
    @The Alarmist
    FWIW, I see more head-covered women per capita in modern London than I saw in Beirut in 1983. No dictator there, but same result. It is a societal trend, a movement of culture and people we have not seen perhaps since the end of the western Roman Empire.

    “I see more head-covered women per capita in modern London than I saw in Beirut in 1983′

    “Modern London”, like most of “modern North-Northwestern Europe”, is going down the drain – FAST. Unless there is some sort of a radical course correction, SOON, these places will look VERY different in, say, 40-50 years, from what they have looked like THROUGHOUT THEIR ENTIRE HISTORY – racially, socially, culturally, and physically (in terms of the general appearance of the towns and public spaces, their inhabitants, buildings and architecture etc.). Oh, sure, TODAY they still appear as “rich, advanced, First World societies” – but this is increasingly a superficial facade underneath which deep, degenerative changes are occurring.

    The only question now is, how much of Central, Eastern and Southern Europe will manage to escape these destructive socio-demographic-cultural alterations – this civilizational collapse and transformation.

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    There's no need to exaggerate the extent of the crisis and lack of rescue options. The UK and Sweden are only 5% Muslim. France is higher at about 7-8%. There doesn't even need to be a total Muslim ban to save these countries.
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  115. nglaer says:

    Yes, you’re right about the Conformist, my fave movie, have seen it six or seven times. Got to meet Dominique Sanda when she was in one of my stepfather’s films, (or vice-versa). Got to go upstairs in an elevator with her and show her my parents bedroom in Parma hotel, so she could see whether she wanted it or would rent a house. I was 22. I was hoping she would give me hint to go for a pleasant 15 minutes, but no such luck.

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  116. @JimB
    In the interest of better relations with Moscow, Erdogan should let the KGB set up shop and find the conspirators, along with all their family members. Then make them disappear. The best deterrent against terrorism in the third world is to make terrorists know that their entire family tree will be extirpated, including momma in the burqa, papa and his water pipe, the uncles, cousins, and nieces, all out to the third degree.

    Agree. Have long been of this opinion; “it’s the only language they understand”, unfortunately. Mini-genocides, I suppose. I prefer to see it as good old-fashioned blood-feud.

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  117. @JimB
    In the interest of better relations with Moscow, Erdogan should let the KGB set up shop and find the conspirators, along with all their family members. Then make them disappear. The best deterrent against terrorism in the third world is to make terrorists know that their entire family tree will be extirpated, including momma in the burqa, papa and his water pipe, the uncles, cousins, and nieces, all out to the third degree.
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  118. TWS says:

    Steve, I don’t think it was the Gulen folks. You would think they would have shouted something more secular and less religious.

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  119. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Assassin runs for his life.

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  120. NOTA says:
    @wren
    Holy cow, those are iconic photos.

    They will be famous for decades to come.

    It probably says something bad about me that the thing that jumped out at me was “hey, he may be a jihadi murdering an ambassador in hopes of triggering WW3, but at least he’s got his finger off the trigger.”

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  121. jb says:

    Oh come on! Didn’t anybody look at that picture and think Tony Manero???

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  122. NOTA says:
    @George
    "bravely kept photographing."

    Hey iSteve, Do you say that about people videoing the police beating people up?

    The police might rough you up and take your camera for filming them beating someone up, but they aren’t going to kill you out of hand. A terrorist who’s already murdered someone and knows that the best possible outcome for him from here is dying in a shootout is a whole lot more dangerous.

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    To be fair, though, the terrorist wants to get as much attention as possible. As long as the photographers weren't threatening, they're helping get out his message. If no one took those photos, if no one wrote down his shouted exhortations, a lot of the point of his action would be lost.
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  123. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Anonym
    About damn time.

    He wants to do a lot of things... why exactly? One thing we've learned is that we are better off with secular dictators than a caliphate. However, you've got the problem that anyone you make rich will tend to want to advance his ethno-religious interest. Be that Saudi princes funding mosques or Chinese building up bases in the South China Sea.

    Why? Because if Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad and his Russian allies win the civil war then there will be 10 million refugees coming to Europe as Putin and his puppet laugh up their sleeves.. No, we cannot leave this thing alone, and if we have to confront Russia then so be it. Stopping an invasion are what the hugely expensive millitary forces of the West are for. They must be used now.

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    Take your meds, "anonymous" psycho... Who the hell made you sicko jihadi supporters the owner of Syria?
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  124. melendwyr says: • Website
    @NOTA
    The police might rough you up and take your camera for filming them beating someone up, but they aren't going to kill you out of hand. A terrorist who's already murdered someone and knows that the best possible outcome for him from here is dying in a shootout is a whole lot more dangerous.

    To be fair, though, the terrorist wants to get as much attention as possible. As long as the photographers weren’t threatening, they’re helping get out his message. If no one took those photos, if no one wrote down his shouted exhortations, a lot of the point of his action would be lost.

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  125. Svigor says:

    To be fair, though, the terrorist wants to get as much attention as possible. As long as the photographers weren’t threatening, they’re helping get out his message. If no one took those photos, if no one wrote down his shouted exhortations, a lot of the point of his action would be lost.

    Yeah, I’m sure that would have occurred to me about a half hour after I crapped my pants.

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  126. @Lot
    The picture reminded me of this painting, La derrota de Samotracia (The Defeat of Samothrace)

    http://imgur.com/a/XFbtP
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  127. Svigor says:

    Cagey’s link:

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/don-cry-russia-slain-envoy-putin-lackey-article-1.2917281

    As Vladimir Putin’s man in Turkey, Karlov was the public face of that murderous dictator’s war crimes around the globe and of oppression at home. Andrei Karlov is the human embodiment of policies that deployed bunker busters to kill babies, sent fighter planes on scorched earth bombing runs that destroyed a whole city, aided Syrian madman Bashar al-Assad in his campaign that has killed hundreds of thousands, and even ordered attacks on UN aid workers.

    I think Putin’s actions in Syria have probably saved lives. The record of regime change in MENA is very bad. ISIS’ record is very bad.

    How many innocents have been killed by US Bush and Hussein action in the region? A whole lot fewer than by Putin’s.

    After watching the death of Karlov, I could not help but remember the case of Ernst vom Rath, the Nazi ambassador to France, who was gunned down inside his consulate by a Jewish student in 1938.

    Like Karlov, Rath was the public face of atrocity — in this case, Adolf Hitler’s genocide, anti-Semitism and coming global aggression.

    Maybe Kuntzman (lol) has the arrow of causation reversed; IIRC, the Jewish holocaust had taken 0 lives by 1938. On the other hand, well over 2.5-7.5 million lives had been snuffed out by the disproportionately Jewish Soviet regime, by 1934. The Soviets didn’t have an ongoing total war as an excuse, either.

    Soldiers kill their fellow soldiers.

    Yeah, in Vietnam, they coined the term, “fragging” to describe this, IIRC. It was a war crime, punishable by death.

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  128. HA says:

    Bertolucci’s reputation has taken a Cosby/Polanski nosedive recently after admitting that an infamous sex scene in Last Tango in Paris was non-consensual.

    “To all the people that love this film, you’re watching a 19 year old get raped by a 48 year old man,” [Jessica Chastain] tweeted. “The director planned her attack. I feel sick.”

    Unlike Polanski or Gibson, he’s no longer making movies, and since he’s not making money for anyone, there’s not much reason for anyone in Hollywood to forgive him.

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    "Non consensual" in terms of the pass the butter sequence in "Last Tango" doesn't really hold up. She was informed they were going to do it before they shot it, she didn't want to do it but did it anyway, and there was no actual sexual assault. I wouldn't even put this on the same planet as Polanski or Cosby.
    , @Karl
    > To all the people that love this film, you’re watching a 19 year old who fought like a tiger to GET the part, had read the script - and knew that she wasn't at a Girl Scout singalong campfire

    fixed it for her!
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  129. Svigor says:

    How many innocents have been killed by US Bush and Hussein action in the region? A whole lot more than by Putin’s.

    FIFM.

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  130. SPMoore8 says:
    @Cagey Beast
    Assassination of Russian Ambassador Andrei Karlov was not terrorism, but retribution for Vladimir Putin’s war crimes
    Gersh Kuntzman
    NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
    Tuesday, December 20, 2016, 10:43 AM

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/don-cry-russia-slain-envoy-putin-lackey-article-1.2917281

    Thanks for posting Mr. Kuntzman’s article, which I found truly disgusting. It’s the same POV that gloats whenever an Iranian scientist is murdered. It’s your typical commie POV whereby everything is political, you are either with us or against us, and if you aren’t with us, then your murder is righteous.

    It’s interesting that the soi disant Native American professor in Colorado lost his job for describing the 9/11 victims as “little Eichmanns” (other East Coast eggheads said similar things) but Mr. Kuntzman will probably get away with this.

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  131. SPMoore8 says:
    @HA
    Bertolucci's reputation has taken a Cosby/Polanski nosedive recently after admitting that an infamous sex scene in Last Tango in Paris was non-consensual.

    “To all the people that love this film, you’re watching a 19 year old get raped by a 48 year old man,” [Jessica Chastain] tweeted. “The director planned her attack. I feel sick."
     
    Unlike Polanski or Gibson, he's no longer making movies, and since he's not making money for anyone, there's not much reason for anyone in Hollywood to forgive him.

    “Non consensual” in terms of the pass the butter sequence in “Last Tango” doesn’t really hold up. She was informed they were going to do it before they shot it, she didn’t want to do it but did it anyway, and there was no actual sexual assault. I wouldn’t even put this on the same planet as Polanski or Cosby.

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    The other point is that Brando was equally at fault.

    How many left leaning women would want to tear down the reputation of Marlon Brando?

    For most of them, nothing Brando could have done to them would count as non-consensual sex.
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  132. Mr. Anon says:

    “The Ankara Assassination Looks Like Bertolucci’s “The Conformist””

    Was Mevlut Mert Altintas buggered by the family chauffer?

    Interesting that he is always referred to as Mevlut Mert Altintas. I guess the three-named killer meme also applies in Turkey.

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  133. @Truth
    All high school theatre like the presidential election; nobody died.

    All high school theatre like the presidential election; nobody died.

    Dude in the video looks pretty dead to me.

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    Yes, you could tell by all of the blood spurting all over the floor after he was SHOT AT CLOSE RANGE...


    ...(oh, wait).
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  134. Anonym says:
    @Svigor
    https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/media:f2d6bc546ba3441588a85fa3ebb30530/800.jpeg

    +1 for good trigger discipline

    +1 for good trigger discipline

    He was very careful not to shoot the photographers, although he was himself shot.

    BTW Google Translate translates “Altintas” as “Gold Stone”. FWIW.

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  135. @iffen
    Describe to me the pattern that you want to see and I can find it.

    Applies to models too. See Climate, Change.

    Been there. Done that. Alas, no t-shirt. ;-(

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  136. Mr. Anon says:
    @Truth
    Alright, so how many 140+ IQ geniuses here were fooled?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVgT8LjjuTo

    “Alright, so how many 140+ IQ geniuses here were fooled?”

    Right, because the guy narrating that video (which offered no proof for his contention, by the way) sounded so smart.

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  137. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Parbes
    "I see more head-covered women per capita in modern London than I saw in Beirut in 1983'

    "Modern London", like most of "modern North-Northwestern Europe", is going down the drain - FAST. Unless there is some sort of a radical course correction, SOON, these places will look VERY different in, say, 40-50 years, from what they have looked like THROUGHOUT THEIR ENTIRE HISTORY - racially, socially, culturally, and physically (in terms of the general appearance of the towns and public spaces, their inhabitants, buildings and architecture etc.). Oh, sure, TODAY they still appear as "rich, advanced, First World societies" - but this is increasingly a superficial facade underneath which deep, degenerative changes are occurring.

    The only question now is, how much of Central, Eastern and Southern Europe will manage to escape these destructive socio-demographic-cultural alterations - this civilizational collapse and transformation.

    There’s no need to exaggerate the extent of the crisis and lack of rescue options. The UK and Sweden are only 5% Muslim. France is higher at about 7-8%. There doesn’t even need to be a total Muslim ban to save these countries.

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    Maybe; but the situation is NOT STABLE, it is getting WORSE at an accelerating pace, like a snowball rolling downhill (i.e. just look at the situation of Germany now vs. a mere 2 YEARS AGO) - and there are not even the beginnings of the concerted massive effort that would be required to reverse this world-historical change for the worse, on the part of either the ruling elites OR most of the native population. In fact it's the OPPOSITE: most of them are either still in denial, burying their heads in the sand; OR actively supporting the suicidal course of their own societies due to various reasons (hope of capitalist economic gain, misguided "humanitarianism", various deluded degenerate liberal-socialist philosophies); OR simply too scared and without the stomach to do anything about the problem.

    Also - the Muslim immivasionist/settlers, although forming perhaps the worst part of the problem, are far from being the WHOLE problem.
    , @No_0ne
    Kind of like non-White immigration to the US since Hart-Celler, eh? It's not a problem, the racial/ ethnic makeup of the country isn't changing, that's just a "conspiracy theory." It's remarkable how sudden the change to "You're going to be a minority in your own country, and that's a GOOD thing!" can be, hmm?

    The UK was 99.8% White in 1950.
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  139. France is higher at about 7-8%.

    I’ve talked to Frenchmen who say that’s an undercounting. It’s probably now ten percent at least. In places like Marseille and Toulouse, they are nearly the majority. There are NGZ’s in many neighborhoods. There’s no exaggeration there.

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  140. Truth says:
    @Daniel Williams

    All high school theatre like the presidential election; nobody died.
     
    Dude in the video looks pretty dead to me.

    Yes, you could tell by all of the blood spurting all over the floor after he was SHOT AT CLOSE RANGE…

    …(oh, wait).

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    "Yes, you could tell by all of the blood spurting all over the floor after he was SHOT AT CLOSE RANGE…"

    1.) Blood doesn't spurt after the heart stops.

    2.) Blood is a liquid; it gets soaked up by clothing.

    3.) Reality doesn't comport with your cartoon understanding of the Universe.

    4.) Do you really think that somebody plotting a fake shooting would have forgotten the blood-packs? A stage trick that has been employed since the time of Shakespeare?

    5.) Your posts are always the dull musings of a below-average mind.

    , @Daniel Williams

    Yes, you could tell by all of the blood spurting all over the floor after he was SHOT AT CLOSE RANGE…
     
    You've personally seen enough close-range shootings in real life to know when one appears atypical enough to arouse suspicion? I haven't.

    I've only seen close-range shootings in the movies. I have a feeling they don't look the same as they do in real life, just like cars don't explode when they crash, and people don't scream when they fall, and NASA isn't teeming with black teen computer geniuses, etc.
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  141. Anonym says:
    @Anon
    Because a Muslim done it, this is being called 'terrorism' from many quarters, but is it?

    Terrorism means killing 'innocent' civilians in a political act.

    In this case, the killer specifically targeted a political figure.

    Is political assassination an act of terrorism? I think we have to be careful with words.

    US tried to assassinate Castro. Was it terrorism? If US targeted innocent Cubans, that would be terrorism. Killing a political leader/figure, no.
    It's been said US had a hand in the assassination of Diem.
    And there are still theories of how CIA-Pentagon complex killed Kennedy, though I think Oswald did it alone. Whoever did it, it wasn't terrorism.

    Speaking of spectacular assassinations, Booth's killing of Lincoln probably tops all. If they had videos back then, that would made for some footage, esp as so many in the theater thought it was part of the act. Wilkes' act was not terrorism but assassination.
    The Muslim hostage-taking and mayhem in the Moscow theater, now that was terrorism as innocents were targeted.

    Assassination has negative connotations, but assassination has been romanticized in some movies. Fritz Lang's MANHUNT is about a would-be assassin of Hitler. In MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE, the assassination at the end where son kills mother saves the nation. A movie like DAY OF THE JACKAL is more ambiguous. While the hired would-be assassin of Degaulle clearly needs to be stopped, there's something impressive about his cool professionalism. This is excellent commentary:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AszR86cDuNo

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3rh4yoGS3g

    It used to be terror and assassination were dominated by anarchists. What happened to this kind of terror? /



    Were anarchists done in by their more organized comrades, the communists? Anarchists were more frightful and destructive than the communists, but their Achilles Heel was anti-statism. And that meant they would lose to both the far right and the far left. It's like the Kinski character in DOCTOR ZHIVAGO. He's an anarchist who alienates and lashes out at everyone. In contrast, Yevgraf is part of a disciplined organization. In Spain, Stalin's communists wiped out the anarchists. And they were wiped out in all other communist nations. In the capitalist nations, anarchists mostly turned to the arts or decadent forms of radicalism like Yippie-ism and Hippie-ism. While some anarchists were diehard ideologues, it seems many were just looking for youthful action and excitement. When youth culture and pop culture took off after WWII, anarchists could no longer throw bombs for youth excitement. They could just use drugs and rock n roll. Or join a punk band and do pretend-revolution to the Clash or Sex Pistols.
    But there was one time when anarchists struck terror in the hearts of many. I think this dark history has been suppressed by the Media Narrative since anarchists were on the Left. They often served as left-wing death squads, and many leaders and figures in late 19th century and early 20th century --- and police men too --- were killed by anarchists in this era. But anarchists also threw bombs and committed acts of terror that targeted 'innocent' civilians though, to be sure, anarchists surely thought any bourgeois member of society was part of the tyranny.
    In Zola's GERMINAL, the anarchist Souvarine is even willing to sacrifice workers in the mine to bring down the capitalist system.

    Nowadays, we usually conflate assassinations and terrorism with Islam. Anarchists do commit violence as 'antifa', but it's usually vandalism -- like in Seattle after Trump's win -- than bombs and killings.

    But terrorism debate is also a war of words.
    When US cooks up lies about Iraq and invades, isn't that terrorism? Or when US uses sanctions to destroy 100,00os of innocent women and children, isn't that terrorism?
    When US pledges support when Israel rains down bombs on Gaza in the killing of 1000s of civilians, isn't that terrorism? When Israel ordered the killing of Iranian scientists, NYT put quotes around 'terrorism'.
    Also, because US does so much killing from the air, even anti-terrorist actions turn into quasi-terrorist acts due to collateral damage. If US takes action to assassinate a terrorist and uses a drone strike that wipes out everyone at a wedding, what is that?

    And when does war itself become terrorism? Chechens were nutty, but did Russia really have to raze entire cities in Chechnya? The pictures from that campaign are frightening.

    Assassinations or terrorism, there are various kinds, and every side is cynical and selective in determining that is and isn't terror.

    Take the terrorist acts aided and abetted by the British in LAWRENCE OF ARABIA. Turkish train is attacked and everyone is killed. Arabs loot everything.
    That would be what?
    Imperialist Terrorism in service of British Empire?
    Anti-imperialist Terrorism against the Turkish Empire?
    Nationalist Terrorism for Arab Independence?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vR3FPplcJGg

    Some people on the Alt Right are lauding the new STAR WARS movie for greater complexity. It's not spotless good vs totally evil bad but a world where even the good must fight dirty to win. Like in Pan's Babyrinse.

    Assassinations/terrorism can be anarchist or part of some ideology, Jihadist or religious, nationalist, imperialist, anti-imperialist, communist, American-exceptionalist(neo-imperialist), cultist, pathological(though nutjobs like Travis Bickle are convinced that it is a political mission; David Chapman moralized his pointless killing of Lennon), criminal(like in GODFATHER or more sloppily among black gangstas). The killing of Oswald by Ruby. Was that political or criminal?

    I think, in the sweep of history, the only kind of assassination/terrorism that might be somewhat justified is the nationalist kind.
    Though the Algerian terror in BATTLE OF ALGIERS is terrifying, it was an effort to gain national independence. It's like RED DAWN. If a foreign nation militarily occupied your community in America and if foreigners colonized your town, would it be justified to kill foreign troops/figures and even use bombs against colonizers? I think most Americans should say yes.
    I say EU is now ruled by globalist collaborator-traitors who are allowing massive colonization of Europe by invader-hordes. These are radical times.

    Russia had tons of assassins in its history, not least because the Tsarist order suppressed much freedom when rest of Europe was moving forward. But the problem was the Tsarist order, as repressive as it was, wasn't repressive enough(like the later Bolshevik order whose NKVD made Tsarist police look like pussycats). And of course, lots of Jews were pissed too. But it wasn't just the Jews. Many in the intelligentsia got radicalized. And things got so bad that even reformers like Stolypin got targeted. In some ways, the radicals feared the reformers more because reform might alleviate conditions and make revolution impossible. Others thought there was nihilistic redemption in the act of violence itself.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NtxQ54OC8s

    Lenin's older brother was executed for his role in the anti-Tsar plot.
    Terrorism and assassination became so much a part of Russian culture(and in its republics like Georgia that spawned Stalin) that Lenin himself became a target of a plot. Stalin finally got rid of this culture of terror by using Great Terror to make sure everyone understood who was boss.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIfl1TuSl5A

    Ironically, even though Russian authorities were the target of revolutionary terror, their power also inspired assassination and terror among other peoples who looked to Russia as counter-force against other imperialists. And Russia exploited this.
    There was the death of archduke Ferdinand by Serbian nationalist at a time when Serbians looked to Russia for support. And perhaps the Korean who killed the Japanese diplomat also hoped for Russian support against Japan. Looking to Russia for support against Japan continued even after Russia turned communist.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IWNQJ5IZQY

    And now it's come full circle, with some Muslim killing a Russian diplomat as the symbol of Russia's propping up secular Assad against radical Muslim takeover in Syria.

    This killing seems to be Jihadist or religious. It's not nationalist since the killer isn't Syrian. And he didn't kill for Turkey either. Rather, he seems to be motivated by the same thing that done in Sadat.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhu-YgCyPz4

    As for the killing of Gaddafi that delighted Hillary so much, what was that? More like lynching than assassination or execution.
    Mussolini was properly executed but then his body got worse treatment than Gaddafi's. More like desecrationism.

    What would the killing of Osama Bin Laden count as? Revenge-assassination?

    In some ways, perhaps most ways, it is “Who, whom?”

    As a practical matter, I am on my side and it is pretty obvious that History did not End in 1992, as Fukuyama posited. By my side I mean the side of myself, my family, other NW Europeans, and other Europeans generally, except Muslim Europeans and those who would see me race replaced.

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  142. @SPMoore8
    "Non consensual" in terms of the pass the butter sequence in "Last Tango" doesn't really hold up. She was informed they were going to do it before they shot it, she didn't want to do it but did it anyway, and there was no actual sexual assault. I wouldn't even put this on the same planet as Polanski or Cosby.

    The other point is that Brando was equally at fault.

    How many left leaning women would want to tear down the reputation of Marlon Brando?

    For most of them, nothing Brando could have done to them would count as non-consensual sex.

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    Well, if someone wants to blame Brando I don't care, but it still wasn't sexual assault. Let's recap: we have a young actress who by her own account was extremely promiscuous and hired to have sex with Brando in the course of making a film. One day, the director decided they would a fake anal rape scene. She didn't want to do it but was "intimidated" into doing it (so the story goes.) In fact however there was no sexual assault, meaning, no penetration, but she was apparently deeply distressed that she was expected to pretend that she was anally raped in this particular scene. I simply do not understand this.
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  143. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    The assassin’s name “Mert Altintas” translates to “Mort Goldstein.”

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  144. Parbes says:
    @Anonymous
    Why? Because if Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad and his Russian allies win the civil war then there will be 10 million refugees coming to Europe as Putin and his puppet laugh up their sleeves.. No, we cannot leave this thing alone, and if we have to confront Russia then so be it. Stopping an invasion are what the hugely expensive millitary forces of the West are for. They must be used now.

    Take your meds, “anonymous” psycho… Who the hell made you sicko jihadi supporters the owner of Syria?

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  145. Moshe says:
    @peterike

    if Jews were all moving in the same direction there would not have been a holocaust only a few years ago
     
    I think you meant to say "weren't" instead of "were."

    If that’s dark humor, well done. If I failed to make myself clear however, what I’m saying, is that they’re obviously would not have been a holocaust if a people as extraordinary as Jews were all working together on each other’s behalf.

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  146. Moshe says:
    @iffen
    Describe to me the pattern that you want to see and I can find it.

    Exactly right, that’s my point. Did I come across as implying differently? If I did, I would prefer to blame it on my phone’s dictation than on myself :)

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    Exactly right, that’s my point.

    I just wanted to spell it out.

    I don't have to tell you that a very high % of the commenters and content providers here can't grasp the concept, or at least do not apply it to themselves and their thinking.
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  147. Parbes says:
    @Anonymous
    There's no need to exaggerate the extent of the crisis and lack of rescue options. The UK and Sweden are only 5% Muslim. France is higher at about 7-8%. There doesn't even need to be a total Muslim ban to save these countries.

    Maybe; but the situation is NOT STABLE, it is getting WORSE at an accelerating pace, like a snowball rolling downhill (i.e. just look at the situation of Germany now vs. a mere 2 YEARS AGO) – and there are not even the beginnings of the concerted massive effort that would be required to reverse this world-historical change for the worse, on the part of either the ruling elites OR most of the native population. In fact it’s the OPPOSITE: most of them are either still in denial, burying their heads in the sand; OR actively supporting the suicidal course of their own societies due to various reasons (hope of capitalist economic gain, misguided “humanitarianism”, various deluded degenerate liberal-socialist philosophies); OR simply too scared and without the stomach to do anything about the problem.

    Also – the Muslim immivasionist/settlers, although forming perhaps the worst part of the problem, are far from being the WHOLE problem.

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    "Maybe; but the situation is NOT STABLE, it is getting WORSE at an accelerating pace..."

    Until you get back on your medication and then you'll feel that things get BETTER at an accelerating pace. The old mood swing slippery slope can be painful for sure.

    "just look at the situation in Germany now". I have. It's stable.
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  148. SPMoore8 says:
    @candid_observer
    The other point is that Brando was equally at fault.

    How many left leaning women would want to tear down the reputation of Marlon Brando?

    For most of them, nothing Brando could have done to them would count as non-consensual sex.

    Well, if someone wants to blame Brando I don’t care, but it still wasn’t sexual assault. Let’s recap: we have a young actress who by her own account was extremely promiscuous and hired to have sex with Brando in the course of making a film. One day, the director decided they would a fake anal rape scene. She didn’t want to do it but was “intimidated” into doing it (so the story goes.) In fact however there was no sexual assault, meaning, no penetration, but she was apparently deeply distressed that she was expected to pretend that she was anally raped in this particular scene. I simply do not understand this.

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  149. Mr. Anon says:
    @Truth
    Yes, you could tell by all of the blood spurting all over the floor after he was SHOT AT CLOSE RANGE...


    ...(oh, wait).

    “Yes, you could tell by all of the blood spurting all over the floor after he was SHOT AT CLOSE RANGE…”

    1.) Blood doesn’t spurt after the heart stops.

    2.) Blood is a liquid; it gets soaked up by clothing.

    3.) Reality doesn’t comport with your cartoon understanding of the Universe.

    4.) Do you really think that somebody plotting a fake shooting would have forgotten the blood-packs? A stage trick that has been employed since the time of Shakespeare?

    5.) Your posts are always the dull musings of a below-average mind.

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    He's thinking of arterial spray like when someone gets a neck cut on TV shows.

    Are we arguing now that the shooter wasn't killed? Shoot, maybe the Russian wasn't killed. Maybe Turkey doesn't even exist. Houston, there's a glitch in the matrix .....
    , @Truth
    So bullets enter someone's body, he dies INSTANTLY, and there is not a drop of blood anywhere, while the assailant goes into a minute long lecture.

    1. So the heart stopped instantly, as soon as the bullet hit?

    2. yes, and spills onto the floor.

    3. Good one!

    4. No one "forgot" anything. They neglected blood packs for the same reason they made Barry's 1961 birth certificate with obvious photoshop layers....MOCKERY OF THE STUPID PUBLIC. You see, old boy, you will, and do, believe whatever you are told.

    After ten years nymph, you're still..well...you're incredibly "consistent."
    , @Hippopotamusdrome


    Do you really think that somebody plotting a fake shooting would have forgotten the blood-packs?

     

    Ok, the lack of blood actually proves it's not fake, got it.
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  150. Mr. Anon says:
    @Anonymous
    About damn time.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZK2FZGKAd0

    “About damn time.”

    For what? Provoking a nuclear power, by going out of our way to kill their people? We tried to avoid doing that during the Vietnam war.

    This guy, whose reckless and stupid advice you are recommending, is Michael Morell, who wrote a New York Times Op-Ed endorsing Hillary Clinton for President. Why should I particularly care what he thinks?

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  151. SPMoore8 says:
    @Mr. Anon
    "Yes, you could tell by all of the blood spurting all over the floor after he was SHOT AT CLOSE RANGE…"

    1.) Blood doesn't spurt after the heart stops.

    2.) Blood is a liquid; it gets soaked up by clothing.

    3.) Reality doesn't comport with your cartoon understanding of the Universe.

    4.) Do you really think that somebody plotting a fake shooting would have forgotten the blood-packs? A stage trick that has been employed since the time of Shakespeare?

    5.) Your posts are always the dull musings of a below-average mind.

    He’s thinking of arterial spray like when someone gets a neck cut on TV shows.

    Are we arguing now that the shooter wasn’t killed? Shoot, maybe the Russian wasn’t killed. Maybe Turkey doesn’t even exist. Houston, there’s a glitch in the matrix …..

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    "Maybe Turkey doesn’t even exist."

    I've never been there. Sounds phony to me.

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  152. Truth says:
    @Mr. Anon
    "Yes, you could tell by all of the blood spurting all over the floor after he was SHOT AT CLOSE RANGE…"

    1.) Blood doesn't spurt after the heart stops.

    2.) Blood is a liquid; it gets soaked up by clothing.

    3.) Reality doesn't comport with your cartoon understanding of the Universe.

    4.) Do you really think that somebody plotting a fake shooting would have forgotten the blood-packs? A stage trick that has been employed since the time of Shakespeare?

    5.) Your posts are always the dull musings of a below-average mind.

    So bullets enter someone’s body, he dies INSTANTLY, and there is not a drop of blood anywhere, while the assailant goes into a minute long lecture.

    1. So the heart stopped instantly, as soon as the bullet hit?

    2. yes, and spills onto the floor.

    3. Good one!

    4. No one “forgot” anything. They neglected blood packs for the same reason they made Barry’s 1961 birth certificate with obvious photoshop layers….MOCKERY OF THE STUPID PUBLIC. You see, old boy, you will, and do, believe whatever you are told.

    After ten years nymph, you’re still..well…you’re incredibly “consistent.”

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    "1. So the heart stopped instantly, as soon as the bullet hit?"

    I believe that can happen. He was shot eight times.

    "2. yes, and spills onto the floor."

    The body isn't just a sack of blood.

    "No one “forgot” anything. They neglected blood packs for the same reason they made Barry’s 1961 birth certificate with obvious photoshop layers….MOCKERY OF THE STUPID PUBLIC. You see, old boy, you will, and do, believe whatever you are told."

    I tend to believe what I see. I certainly don't believe what I am told by you, second hand, through whatever idiot sources you seek out. You believe lots of stupid things. You believe that water can be used as a fuel; why should anyone believe you, cockroach?
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  153. Mr. Anon says:
    @SPMoore8
    He's thinking of arterial spray like when someone gets a neck cut on TV shows.

    Are we arguing now that the shooter wasn't killed? Shoot, maybe the Russian wasn't killed. Maybe Turkey doesn't even exist. Houston, there's a glitch in the matrix .....

    “Maybe Turkey doesn’t even exist.”

    I’ve never been there. Sounds phony to me.

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  154. It might be time to seriously reconsider the wisdom of Turkey’s NATO membership?

    Not seeing the upside.

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  155. @Anonym
    It had been a while since Omar Mateen. Someone's shower thought on reddit - that it is interesting that there was a relatively long hiatus between major terror attacks and the results of the US presidential election. I looked up the Islamic Terror timeline on wikipedia, and it is largely correct. But it's a good thing that the attacks have continued, enhancing Trump's mandate.

    https://m.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5jcvok/showerthought_isis_stopped_committing_terrorist/

    In other news re: Islamic Terror, I note that the top comment at Breitbart references Steve's "Magic Dirt" concept as "Magic Soil". Obviously along the way the meme has encountered someone who deals with soil in a technical way and was unhappy with the lay term for dirt. Maybe a "blood and dirt" nationalist will change it back. Or not.

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/12/20/afd-hits-merkel-christmas-market-attack-dead/

    the top comment at Breitbart references Steve’s “Magic Dirt” concept as “Magic Soil”

    Steve has a really good sense for catchy phrases. “Magic dirt” is much more compelling than “Magic soil.”

    It would be an interesting strategy for those on the other side to start using Steve’s phrases with small mistakes in order to undermine their psychological impact.

    Loot the world, lure the world.
    Occam’s table knife.
    etc

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  156. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    P.S., Feel free to nix the above comment if it’s a bit presumptuous. (I figured it was worth a shot after winning the Great Ellipses War of 2016.)

    “I figured it was worth a shot after winning the Great Ellipses War of 2016.”
    Now now Miss Jenny. According to to Strunk & White’s Style Guide page 88, ellipses are only to be used for omission.
    You must have read the Derrida/Foucault ‘How To Mess Things Up’ guide.
    Sad. :)

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  157. Karl says:
    @Alec Leamas
    If this had happened in The United States or Western Europe, I imagine the bystanders would have had a hard time believing that the assassination was not performance art. You might even have heard them clapping at the end.

    >If this had happened in The United States or Western Europe

    if this had happened in Israel – or perhaps in the OTHER Lone Star State – the assailant might very well have been shot when he first displayed a weapon

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    He was a cop providing security. How would anyone else be sure, when he drew his gun, that he was planning to shoot the ambassador rather than trying to stop an assassin nobody else had seen yet.
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  158. Karl says:
    @HA
    Bertolucci's reputation has taken a Cosby/Polanski nosedive recently after admitting that an infamous sex scene in Last Tango in Paris was non-consensual.

    “To all the people that love this film, you’re watching a 19 year old get raped by a 48 year old man,” [Jessica Chastain] tweeted. “The director planned her attack. I feel sick."
     
    Unlike Polanski or Gibson, he's no longer making movies, and since he's not making money for anyone, there's not much reason for anyone in Hollywood to forgive him.

    > To all the people that love this film, you’re watching a 19 year old who fought like a tiger to GET the part, had read the script – and knew that she wasn’t at a Girl Scout singalong campfire

    fixed it for her!

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  159. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    It’s Morrissey!

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  160. wren says:

    “I go and I do whatever I am told to by our chief.”

    Cool.

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  161. He’s thinking of arterial spray like when someone gets a neck cut on TV shows.

    He also might be thinking of one of the many other arteries that permeate every part of the body.

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    Are you aware of the quality of "Truth"'s "thinking"? He thinks there are cars that are fueled with water.
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  162. @Mr. Anon
    "Yes, you could tell by all of the blood spurting all over the floor after he was SHOT AT CLOSE RANGE…"

    1.) Blood doesn't spurt after the heart stops.

    2.) Blood is a liquid; it gets soaked up by clothing.

    3.) Reality doesn't comport with your cartoon understanding of the Universe.

    4.) Do you really think that somebody plotting a fake shooting would have forgotten the blood-packs? A stage trick that has been employed since the time of Shakespeare?

    5.) Your posts are always the dull musings of a below-average mind.

    Do you really think that somebody plotting a fake shooting would have forgotten the blood-packs?

    Ok, the lack of blood actually proves it’s not fake, got it.

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    "Ok, the lack of blood actually proves it’s not fake, got it."

    I'm sure you can find pictures of any number of crime scenes where people were shot, and there isn't much blood. Besides, we've only seen a couple of pictures of the scene, which might have been snapped almost as soon as the guy hits the floor.

    Why do people think that dark, sinister forces go to the trouble to stage crimes in order to fool a media-besotted public, and yet don't make those fake crimes look like what people have come to expect through their exposure to the media? Most people probably think a shooting looks like at least some of the shootings they've seen countless times in the movies. So why don't the plotters bother to employ the same kind of stage-craft that even low-budget cable TV series use?
    , @Truth
    There is absolutely nothing I can add to this' it's perfect.
    , @Moshe
    So is the ambassador STILL alive or was he never alive?
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  163. Mr. Anon says:
    @Truth
    So bullets enter someone's body, he dies INSTANTLY, and there is not a drop of blood anywhere, while the assailant goes into a minute long lecture.

    1. So the heart stopped instantly, as soon as the bullet hit?

    2. yes, and spills onto the floor.

    3. Good one!

    4. No one "forgot" anything. They neglected blood packs for the same reason they made Barry's 1961 birth certificate with obvious photoshop layers....MOCKERY OF THE STUPID PUBLIC. You see, old boy, you will, and do, believe whatever you are told.

    After ten years nymph, you're still..well...you're incredibly "consistent."

    “1. So the heart stopped instantly, as soon as the bullet hit?”

    I believe that can happen. He was shot eight times.

    “2. yes, and spills onto the floor.”

    The body isn’t just a sack of blood.

    “No one “forgot” anything. They neglected blood packs for the same reason they made Barry’s 1961 birth certificate with obvious photoshop layers….MOCKERY OF THE STUPID PUBLIC. You see, old boy, you will, and do, believe whatever you are told.”

    I tend to believe what I see. I certainly don’t believe what I am told by you, second hand, through whatever idiot sources you seek out. You believe lots of stupid things. You believe that water can be used as a fuel; why should anyone believe you, cockroach?

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  164. Mr. Anon says:
    @Hippopotamusdrome


    Do you really think that somebody plotting a fake shooting would have forgotten the blood-packs?

     

    Ok, the lack of blood actually proves it's not fake, got it.

    “Ok, the lack of blood actually proves it’s not fake, got it.”

    I’m sure you can find pictures of any number of crime scenes where people were shot, and there isn’t much blood. Besides, we’ve only seen a couple of pictures of the scene, which might have been snapped almost as soon as the guy hits the floor.

    Why do people think that dark, sinister forces go to the trouble to stage crimes in order to fool a media-besotted public, and yet don’t make those fake crimes look like what people have come to expect through their exposure to the media? Most people probably think a shooting looks like at least some of the shootings they’ve seen countless times in the movies. So why don’t the plotters bother to employ the same kind of stage-craft that even low-budget cable TV series use?

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  165. Mr. Anon says:
    @Hippopotamusdrome


    He’s thinking of arterial spray like when someone gets a neck cut on TV shows.

     

    He also might be thinking of one of the many other arteries that permeate every part of the body.

    Are you aware of the quality of “Truth”‘s “thinking”? He thinks there are cars that are fueled with water.

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  166. Mr. Anon says:

    That movie trailer quotes a review to the effect that The Conformist is a searing indictment of fascism and an orgasm of coolness, or something. I don’t know, a lot of the movie seems to go out of its way to make fascism seem pretty cool: striding down marble hallways through alternating stripes of light and shadow,assassins in sharp suits and pork-pie hats. Wasn’t coolness an important part of the aesthetic of fascism? It seems to me that the movie could be subtly recut to give it a pro-fascist feel. I’m surprised that Tarantino never made a movie in homage to the The Conformist, not that it would be any good.

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    Yup, "The Conformist" makes Italian Fascism look pretty snazzy.
    , @Anonym
    It seems to me that the movie could be subtly recut to give it a pro-fascist feel.

    It is a familiar track of leftist movies, AHX for one. The moral is that the pro-white protagonist is ultimately on the wrong track.

    I agree with you and Sailer, the fascists were certainly glamourized, at least to begin with.

    The movie's cinematography was undeniably beautiful. It has long been said that the Nazis had the best fashion sense, but I was not aware that the Fascists had pretty darn good dress sense too.

    Even back in 1970, leftism was associating itself with lesbianism and homosexuality, or standing in opposition to fascism, rather than class struggle. (Dog Day Afternoon is another such movie, nearly half a century before its time.)

    I kept on waiting for a third act depicting an assassination in a building reminiscent of the Turkish art gallery but was disappointed. Marcello waving around his gun theatrically was all we got to see in that regard.
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  167. @Mr. Anon
    That movie trailer quotes a review to the effect that The Conformist is a searing indictment of fascism and an orgasm of coolness, or something. I don't know, a lot of the movie seems to go out of its way to make fascism seem pretty cool: striding down marble hallways through alternating stripes of light and shadow,assassins in sharp suits and pork-pie hats. Wasn't coolness an important part of the aesthetic of fascism? It seems to me that the movie could be subtly recut to give it a pro-fascist feel. I'm surprised that Tarantino never made a movie in homage to the The Conformist, not that it would be any good.

    Yup, “The Conformist” makes Italian Fascism look pretty snazzy.

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  168. @Parbes
    Maybe; but the situation is NOT STABLE, it is getting WORSE at an accelerating pace, like a snowball rolling downhill (i.e. just look at the situation of Germany now vs. a mere 2 YEARS AGO) - and there are not even the beginnings of the concerted massive effort that would be required to reverse this world-historical change for the worse, on the part of either the ruling elites OR most of the native population. In fact it's the OPPOSITE: most of them are either still in denial, burying their heads in the sand; OR actively supporting the suicidal course of their own societies due to various reasons (hope of capitalist economic gain, misguided "humanitarianism", various deluded degenerate liberal-socialist philosophies); OR simply too scared and without the stomach to do anything about the problem.

    Also - the Muslim immivasionist/settlers, although forming perhaps the worst part of the problem, are far from being the WHOLE problem.

    “Maybe; but the situation is NOT STABLE, it is getting WORSE at an accelerating pace…”

    Until you get back on your medication and then you’ll feel that things get BETTER at an accelerating pace. The old mood swing slippery slope can be painful for sure.

    “just look at the situation in Germany now”. I have. It’s stable.

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  169. Parbes says:

    ““just look at the situation in Germany now”. I have. It’s stable.”

    I guess the truck attack on the ***Christmas market*** in Berlin yesterday that killed 12 and wounded 50 was another manifestation of “stability”, eh, idiot?

    Anyway, any “looking” done by YOU doesn’t count, since you’re a mendacious biased blockhead.

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  170. iffen says:
    @Moshe
    Exactly right, that's my point. Did I come across as implying differently? If I did, I would prefer to blame it on my phone's dictation than on myself :)

    Exactly right, that’s my point.

    I just wanted to spell it out.

    I don’t have to tell you that a very high % of the commenters and content providers here can’t grasp the concept, or at least do not apply it to themselves and their thinking.

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    Agreed. It's "Who? Whom?" all the way down.
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  171. BB753 says:
    @Peripatetic commenter
    Is that a reference to pizzagate?

    Both to Omar Mateen, whose family ran a Pizza place, and to Pizzagate, indeed. Afghanis have much needed skills in Washington, that is, Basha Bazi, the sexual exploitation of minors.

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  172. @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...
    "I figured it was worth a shot after winning the Great Ellipses War of 2016."
    Now now Miss Jenny. According to to Strunk & White's Style Guide page 88, ellipses are only to be used for omission.
    You must have read the Derrida/Foucault 'How To Mess Things Up' guide.
    Sad. :)

    :) :) :)

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  173. No_0ne says:
    @Anonymous
    There's no need to exaggerate the extent of the crisis and lack of rescue options. The UK and Sweden are only 5% Muslim. France is higher at about 7-8%. There doesn't even need to be a total Muslim ban to save these countries.

    Kind of like non-White immigration to the US since Hart-Celler, eh? It’s not a problem, the racial/ ethnic makeup of the country isn’t changing, that’s just a “conspiracy theory.” It’s remarkable how sudden the change to “You’re going to be a minority in your own country, and that’s a GOOD thing!” can be, hmm?

    The UK was 99.8% White in 1950.

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  174. Svigor says:

    BTW Google Translate translates “Altintas” as “Gold Stone”. FWIW.

    UH-OH…

    I see that Mr. Anon has already made my argument for me, but since I already have it typed out in the comment box:

    Yes, you could tell by all of the blood spurting all over the floor after he was SHOT AT CLOSE RANGE…

    …(oh, wait).

    Blood spurts because the heart is pumping it. When the heart stops pumping, blood rapidly stops pumping. That’s my layman’s impression, anyway; that a few moments after the heart stops, the blood goes to leaking. Also, a shirt and a jacket can absorb a substantial amount of liquid. Also, a body can cover up a substantial pool of blood. Also, a couple of hundred pounds of flesh can do a lot to block blood flow. Finally, the photos were apparently taken very soon after he fell. Since he was shot in the back, and fell on his back, my guess is that the circumstances of his death (died quickly mitigating blood flow, fell onto his back, where the wounds were, further mitigating blood flow, and was wearing a substantial amount of clothing to absorb blood, further mitigating blood flow, and the pictures were taken moments after his death, meaning he hadn’t had long to bleed) are at least not inconsistent with what we see in the photos.

    Furthermore, what with truth being stranger than fiction, and with fiction usually falling into place far more neatly than reality, if his supposed death was actually staged, I suppose that the people who arranged it could have made provisions for some fake blood.

    Hollywood creates a lot of false impressions. E.g., from everything I have read, blood generally does not spurt out of gunshot wounds to the torso (especially of clothed people) the way it does in the movies (Hollywood adds this for dramatic effect). The impression I get is that generally, dramatic blood spatter comes from wounds that cause significant trauma (say, to the head), or from exit wounds. Exit wounds are often absent in pistol shots to the torso.

    Obviously either scenario is possible, but personally, I am of the opinion that the idea that this was staged with these strange optics is less likely than the idea that it simply played out in reality with these strange optics.

    On the other hand, maybe it was staged to look phony and undermine the alleged stagers.

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    Blood spurts because the heart is pumping it. When the heart stops pumping, blood rapidly stops pumping. That’s my layman’s impression, anyway; that a few moments after the heart stops, the blood goes to leaking.
     
    Your MCAT score must have been off the charts.


    Furthermore, what with truth being stranger than fiction, and with fiction usually falling into place far more neatly than reality, if his supposed death was actually staged, I suppose that the people who arranged it could have made provisions for some fake blood.
     
    But you're not getting it, Old Sport: Why did they need to go through all of that; making fake blood, putting it into bags, taping it to his body, wiring it with explosives, etc...

    WHEN THEY KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO BUY IT ANYWAY?!
    , @Truth

    I am of the opinion that the idea that this was staged with these strange optics is less likely than the idea that it simply played out in reality with these strange optics.
     
    So that settles it, you're a "coincidence theorist."
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  175. No_0ne says:
    @Moshe
    "The Tribal Agenda".

    You can make worldly events fit any narrative you like. There are enough events going on that it's not hard to string together whatever prosecution case you like.

    And jews, being more interesting and successful than whatever people you come from, are likely to be somehow or other at least tangentially involved in many of the various things going on in the world. Something which is not the case for most other small peoples.

    Now, string together a couple of things here and there such as how Jews Like Israel and such, can make you believe that there is some sort of octopus Jewish command center or at least some sort of hive mind that's directs Jews in the same direction.

    Neither are the case. However, considering how ridiculously censored any discussion of Jews is in the West, the only people putting together any sort of narrative are people who don't care much for Jews or are looking for a scapegoat or whatever.

    And I definitely can't blame people - who obviously notice the censorship despite the fact that plenty of Jews appear to be doing interesting stuff and interesting places - for eseeing that narrative as one that has a lot of merit.

    In fact, I imagine that if I myself did not know so much about the subject (I'm something of an authority on the matter) I would likely come to similar conclusions, or at least consider them. In fact comma I can't imagine how any free thinking person wouldn't at least consider such conclusions.

    But, while it's too long to get into in a blog post, the actual narrative is, obviously more complex than any simplistic narrative, but also one that does not include Jewish individuals moving in concert except for those who do so publicly. People of Jewish descent enjoy the stage, and it takes something like a Mossad vow to keep them from blabbing. Even then it often doesn't help.

    The problem however is that people looking for an anti Jewish narrative tend to only focus on Jews on one side of the equation. The extreme left knows the details about every Jew on the right while the extreme-right knows the details about every Jew on the left.

    It would be wonderful, for me anyway, if there actually was some coordinated effort to bring Jews to the top of the mountain.

    Any large coordinated effort, or even uncoordinated ambitions in the same direction, is able to accomplish great things. And obviously, those are no ordinary people.

    Chosen or not, while they've always been small in number, Jews have been busier in every field imaginable doing interesting things. And even if you knew all of them that you can gather from Wikipedia, you would still only know a tenth of it. Because 9/10s of it, unfortunately, has been religious nonsense. But unbelievably extraordinarily brilliant religious nonsense.

    So again, if Jews were all moving in the same direction there would not have been a holocaust only a few years ago and at least the entire Middle East would be included within the state of Israel.

    Anyhow, for dictating by phone, this will have to do.

    Exactly. Neocons are a conspiracy theory, as are their origins in Jewish Trotskyites. And their hatred for (non-Communist) Russia has nothing to do with a longstanding tribal antipathy.

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    Your judeo-centric view of the world is flattering. I'm proud that my people can cause you so much mischief in their spare hours. Truly a Chosen Nation.
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  176. Svigor says:

    I guess my point is, Occam’s Razor works for me.

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  177. Truth says:
    @Hippopotamusdrome


    Do you really think that somebody plotting a fake shooting would have forgotten the blood-packs?

     

    Ok, the lack of blood actually proves it's not fake, got it.

    There is absolutely nothing I can add to this’ it’s perfect.

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  178. Truth says:
    @Svigor

    BTW Google Translate translates “Altintas” as “Gold Stone”. FWIW.
     
    UH-OH...

    I see that Mr. Anon has already made my argument for me, but since I already have it typed out in the comment box:

    Yes, you could tell by all of the blood spurting all over the floor after he was SHOT AT CLOSE RANGE…

    …(oh, wait).
     
    Blood spurts because the heart is pumping it. When the heart stops pumping, blood rapidly stops pumping. That's my layman's impression, anyway; that a few moments after the heart stops, the blood goes to leaking. Also, a shirt and a jacket can absorb a substantial amount of liquid. Also, a body can cover up a substantial pool of blood. Also, a couple of hundred pounds of flesh can do a lot to block blood flow. Finally, the photos were apparently taken very soon after he fell. Since he was shot in the back, and fell on his back, my guess is that the circumstances of his death (died quickly mitigating blood flow, fell onto his back, where the wounds were, further mitigating blood flow, and was wearing a substantial amount of clothing to absorb blood, further mitigating blood flow, and the pictures were taken moments after his death, meaning he hadn't had long to bleed) are at least not inconsistent with what we see in the photos.

    Furthermore, what with truth being stranger than fiction, and with fiction usually falling into place far more neatly than reality, if his supposed death was actually staged, I suppose that the people who arranged it could have made provisions for some fake blood.

    Hollywood creates a lot of false impressions. E.g., from everything I have read, blood generally does not spurt out of gunshot wounds to the torso (especially of clothed people) the way it does in the movies (Hollywood adds this for dramatic effect). The impression I get is that generally, dramatic blood spatter comes from wounds that cause significant trauma (say, to the head), or from exit wounds. Exit wounds are often absent in pistol shots to the torso.

    Obviously either scenario is possible, but personally, I am of the opinion that the idea that this was staged with these strange optics is less likely than the idea that it simply played out in reality with these strange optics.

    On the other hand, maybe it was staged to look phony and undermine the alleged stagers.

    Blood spurts because the heart is pumping it. When the heart stops pumping, blood rapidly stops pumping. That’s my layman’s impression, anyway; that a few moments after the heart stops, the blood goes to leaking.

    Your MCAT score must have been off the charts.

    Furthermore, what with truth being stranger than fiction, and with fiction usually falling into place far more neatly than reality, if his supposed death was actually staged, I suppose that the people who arranged it could have made provisions for some fake blood.

    But you’re not getting it, Old Sport: Why did they need to go through all of that; making fake blood, putting it into bags, taping it to his body, wiring it with explosives, etc…

    WHEN THEY KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO BUY IT ANYWAY?!

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    "Your MCAT score must have been off the charts."

    What he said is true, so I'm guessing his MCAT score would be higher than yours.

    Much higher.

    "WHEN THEY KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO BUY IT ANYWAY?!"

    Like you bought the idea of a water-fueled car?
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  179. Truth says:
    @Svigor

    BTW Google Translate translates “Altintas” as “Gold Stone”. FWIW.
     
    UH-OH...

    I see that Mr. Anon has already made my argument for me, but since I already have it typed out in the comment box:

    Yes, you could tell by all of the blood spurting all over the floor after he was SHOT AT CLOSE RANGE…

    …(oh, wait).
     
    Blood spurts because the heart is pumping it. When the heart stops pumping, blood rapidly stops pumping. That's my layman's impression, anyway; that a few moments after the heart stops, the blood goes to leaking. Also, a shirt and a jacket can absorb a substantial amount of liquid. Also, a body can cover up a substantial pool of blood. Also, a couple of hundred pounds of flesh can do a lot to block blood flow. Finally, the photos were apparently taken very soon after he fell. Since he was shot in the back, and fell on his back, my guess is that the circumstances of his death (died quickly mitigating blood flow, fell onto his back, where the wounds were, further mitigating blood flow, and was wearing a substantial amount of clothing to absorb blood, further mitigating blood flow, and the pictures were taken moments after his death, meaning he hadn't had long to bleed) are at least not inconsistent with what we see in the photos.

    Furthermore, what with truth being stranger than fiction, and with fiction usually falling into place far more neatly than reality, if his supposed death was actually staged, I suppose that the people who arranged it could have made provisions for some fake blood.

    Hollywood creates a lot of false impressions. E.g., from everything I have read, blood generally does not spurt out of gunshot wounds to the torso (especially of clothed people) the way it does in the movies (Hollywood adds this for dramatic effect). The impression I get is that generally, dramatic blood spatter comes from wounds that cause significant trauma (say, to the head), or from exit wounds. Exit wounds are often absent in pistol shots to the torso.

    Obviously either scenario is possible, but personally, I am of the opinion that the idea that this was staged with these strange optics is less likely than the idea that it simply played out in reality with these strange optics.

    On the other hand, maybe it was staged to look phony and undermine the alleged stagers.

    I am of the opinion that the idea that this was staged with these strange optics is less likely than the idea that it simply played out in reality with these strange optics.

    So that settles it, you’re a “coincidence theorist.”

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  180. Svigor says:

    WHEN THEY KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO BUY IT ANYWAY?!

    Reality’s pretty malleable for you, isn’t it. Didn’t they need to fool all the geniuses, like you?

    Like I said, Occam’s Razor is enough for me. Always open to new data, though.

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  181. Svigor says:

    Ok, the lack of blood actually proves it’s not fake, got it.

    Well, no, but nobody accounting for the fact that people like to see blood does seem a bit inconsistent with the Divine Conspirator’s Hand. I mean, when you’ve got 20 eminences grises sitting in a room planning the thing out, you’d think one of them would say, “yes, blood, Smithers. The people will expect to see lots and lots of blood.”

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  182. Svigor says:

    The new normal, apparently. From Deutsche Welle.

    “Demanding new laws and restrictions in a hectic knee-jerk reaction is definitely not called for. The state cannot guarantee 100 percent security. German Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere already said after the attacks of Ansbach and Würzburg last summer that a free and open society has to get used to dealing with extreme situations. We have to get used to these kinds of tragedies if we want to maintain our openness as a society.”

    Rolf Tophoven is the director of the Institute for Crisis Prevention (IFUS) in Essen.

    Leftist inconsistency is like a physical law. I’ve said many times that a free and open society (e.g., one with a 2nd Amendment) needs to simply get used to the right to self-defense having down sides, e.g., the occasional psycho shooter, in a country of 320m people.

    If anyone said that to this putz, his sphincter would snap shut.

    Free and open societies safeguard their freedom and openness by keeping people from unfree and closed civilizations (e.g., most everywhere except western Europe) out of their jurisdictions. They will inevitably work to make free and open societies into unfree, closed ones. There is nothing free and open about importing such people, or about forcing race-replacement onto a society that is forbidden from even discussing the matter.

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  183. @Truth
    Yes, you could tell by all of the blood spurting all over the floor after he was SHOT AT CLOSE RANGE...


    ...(oh, wait).

    Yes, you could tell by all of the blood spurting all over the floor after he was SHOT AT CLOSE RANGE…

    You’ve personally seen enough close-range shootings in real life to know when one appears atypical enough to arouse suspicion? I haven’t.

    I’ve only seen close-range shootings in the movies. I have a feeling they don’t look the same as they do in real life, just like cars don’t explode when they crash, and people don’t scream when they fall, and NASA isn’t teeming with black teen computer geniuses, etc.

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  184. Moshe says:
    @Hippopotamusdrome


    Do you really think that somebody plotting a fake shooting would have forgotten the blood-packs?

     

    Ok, the lack of blood actually proves it's not fake, got it.

    So is the ambassador STILL alive or was he never alive?

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  185. Moshe says:
    @iffen
    Exactly right, that’s my point.

    I just wanted to spell it out.

    I don't have to tell you that a very high % of the commenters and content providers here can't grasp the concept, or at least do not apply it to themselves and their thinking.

    Agreed. It’s “Who? Whom?” all the way down.

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  186. Moshe says:
    @No_0ne
    Exactly. Neocons are a conspiracy theory, as are their origins in Jewish Trotskyites. And their hatred for (non-Communist) Russia has nothing to do with a longstanding tribal antipathy.

    Your judeo-centric view of the world is flattering. I’m proud that my people can cause you so much mischief in their spare hours. Truly a Chosen Nation.

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  187. Mr. Anon says:
    @Truth

    Blood spurts because the heart is pumping it. When the heart stops pumping, blood rapidly stops pumping. That’s my layman’s impression, anyway; that a few moments after the heart stops, the blood goes to leaking.
     
    Your MCAT score must have been off the charts.


    Furthermore, what with truth being stranger than fiction, and with fiction usually falling into place far more neatly than reality, if his supposed death was actually staged, I suppose that the people who arranged it could have made provisions for some fake blood.
     
    But you're not getting it, Old Sport: Why did they need to go through all of that; making fake blood, putting it into bags, taping it to his body, wiring it with explosives, etc...

    WHEN THEY KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO BUY IT ANYWAY?!

    “Your MCAT score must have been off the charts.”

    What he said is true, so I’m guessing his MCAT score would be higher than yours.

    Much higher.

    “WHEN THEY KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO BUY IT ANYWAY?!”

    Like you bought the idea of a water-fueled car?

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  188. NOTA says:
    @Karl
    >If this had happened in The United States or Western Europe

    if this had happened in Israel - or perhaps in the OTHER Lone Star State - the assailant might very well have been shot when he first displayed a weapon

    He was a cop providing security. How would anyone else be sure, when he drew his gun, that he was planning to shoot the ambassador rather than trying to stop an assassin nobody else had seen yet.

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  189. NOTA says:
    @Moshe
    So is the ambassador STILL alive or was he never alive?

    He is both alive and not-alive until we open the box.

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  190. BB753 says:

    I hope Trump and Putin get together soon next year and find a way to get rid of Erdogan. Turkey needs a permanent military junta and so does Iraq. Bring back Saddam!

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  191. Anonym says:
    @Mr. Anon
    That movie trailer quotes a review to the effect that The Conformist is a searing indictment of fascism and an orgasm of coolness, or something. I don't know, a lot of the movie seems to go out of its way to make fascism seem pretty cool: striding down marble hallways through alternating stripes of light and shadow,assassins in sharp suits and pork-pie hats. Wasn't coolness an important part of the aesthetic of fascism? It seems to me that the movie could be subtly recut to give it a pro-fascist feel. I'm surprised that Tarantino never made a movie in homage to the The Conformist, not that it would be any good.

    It seems to me that the movie could be subtly recut to give it a pro-fascist feel.

    It is a familiar track of leftist movies, AHX for one. The moral is that the pro-white protagonist is ultimately on the wrong track.

    I agree with you and Sailer, the fascists were certainly glamourized, at least to begin with.

    The movie’s cinematography was undeniably beautiful. It has long been said that the Nazis had the best fashion sense, but I was not aware that the Fascists had pretty darn good dress sense too.

    Even back in 1970, leftism was associating itself with lesbianism and homosexuality, or standing in opposition to fascism, rather than class struggle. (Dog Day Afternoon is another such movie, nearly half a century before its time.)

    I kept on waiting for a third act depicting an assassination in a building reminiscent of the Turkish art gallery but was disappointed. Marcello waving around his gun theatrically was all we got to see in that regard.

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