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From Buzzfeed:

Taylor Swift’s Persona Is Not Built For 2017

In 2017, Swift is still absenting herself from the cultural conversation while simultaneously trying to center herself in it.

Posted on November 10, 2017, at 2:00 p.m.

Alanna Bennett
BuzzFeed News Reporter

Taylor Swift’s reputation is a complicated mess. …

Move over a little from there and you’ll find Swift’s image itself — willowy, blonde, and aggressively white. Perhaps, in an awkward corner close by, are the white supremacist fans who’ve claimed her as a figurehead. In any blank space, you’ll find her political silence and her idiosyncratic ways of communicating with the public. …

… But can Swift’s way of doing things keep up with the mounting pressures of a culture whose priorities have shifted? …

Then, in July 2015, the nominations for Video of the Year for the 2015 MTV Video Music Awards were announced. Swift was nominated, for the music video for “Bad Blood.” Nicki Minaj, who was not nominated for the daring, if not provocative, video for “Anaconda,” tweeted an accusation that the VMAs were more likely to celebrate “other” girls for their accomplishments — “women with very slim bodies.” Swift jumped into the conversation, literally making it about her: “I’ve done nothing but love & Support you,” she wrote on Twitter. “It’s unlike you to pit women against each other. Maybe one of the men took your slot..” Minaj responded with confusion: “Didn’t say a word about u.”

…. As Swift was dealing with all the public drama surrounding her name, other cultural conversations were speeding along. In the US, Swift’s battle with Kardashian faded into the background as the country was swallowed whole by an election that brought conversations about sexism and white supremacy to the forefront of everyday politics.

It’s a bleach stain that’s never really left Swift’s persona.

… But it was too late: Swift had already linked herself to an ever-growing conversation about the damage racism can do — especially when that damage presents itself as white innocence and/or oblivion. It’s a bleach stain that’s never really left Swift’s persona, and one that took on an even more intense tenor after the 2016 election.

… has been drowned out by her lack of public endorsement for any candidate in the 2016 election. Oh, and that persistent perception (or running joke?) that she voted for Donald Trump.

Swift’s relative silence on politics may have worked for the majority of her career so far. But by the time the 1989 era came to a close, a lot of Swift’s standby strategies had already proven themselves outdated. And as a sizable portion of the US entered panic mode politically, the perceived stakes of anyone’s silence seemed to grow exponentially…

… But through the lens of a culture, especially a popular culture that involves progressives actively battling white supremacy, Swift is intrinsically linked to whiteness and privilege. And in 2017, she is still absenting herself from the cultural conversation while simultaneously trying to center herself in it.

It’s okay to be white.

 
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  1. Arclight says:

    I always find this idea that the ‘silence’ of various public figures carries any weight at all hilarious, given the total lack of effect various celebrity statements or solemn videos in favor of Obama or against Trump had on the election results.

    Now the silence of various people in the entertainment industry probably did have real world effects on the number of women who were harassed or assaulted by powerful progressives, but let’s not dwell on that.

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    given the total lack of effect various celebrity statements or solemn videos in favor of Obama or against Trump had on the election results.

    I'd say they had a material negative effect on Trump's for/against vote tally.
    , @Frau Katze
    I missed this one by not keeping up for a couple of days. The Guardian filled me in: speaking out against Trump is now necessary to be a respectable celebrity. Silence won’t do:

    From spats over white privilege to her failure to speak out against Trump, the singer’s position as peerless pop princess has been seriously damaged in recent years.
     
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  2. Not Raul says:

    Can someone tell me how someone who is white can avoid being “aggressively white”? I’m asking for a friend.

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    Apologize, listen, and apologize some more. But not too much, so as to not take away talking time from PoC.

    Or, go transgender.
    , @JerryC
    Alanna Bennett appears to be a white chick who is kinda sorta doing the Rachel Dolezal transracial thing. So...I guess you can avoid being labeled aggressively white by being more like Alanna Bennett.
    , @Desiderius
    UMC whites need to feel deracinated for status purposes. Many pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to go to places like Middlebury or Reed to get their deracination cards. In order to make the deracination experience feel authentic, those schools have imported a certain number of non-whites, the more obstreperous the better.

    Those non-whites have used that experience to figure out what those whites are desperate to have (deracination) and they're making them pay through the nose to get it.
    , @anon

    Can someone tell me how someone who is white can avoid being “aggressively white”? I’m asking for a friend
     
    Become a complete and total fuckup; be a parasite on the rest, violent, druggie, felon, held back in kindergarden, drive without a valid license, just break the law and don't play by the rules.

    That would be a decent starting place, but the PoC will provide other examples.....just copy what they're up to.
    , @syonredux

    Can someone tell me how someone who is white can avoid being “aggressively white”? I’m asking for a friend.
     
    Converting to Islam is pretty effective....
    , @Erik Sieven
    imitate Blacks and try to be good at what they are good at, but than fail, because they are superior. So e.g. as a female twerking without the required anatomical features, as a male rapping etc.
    , @Anonymous
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNF2vSqWsAMqakk.jpg
    , @TheUmpteenthGermanOnHere
    You simply admit that you are white but don't think you are white - just like you don't think you are your friend.
    , @Lord Larperston
    "Can someone tell me how someone who is white can avoid being “aggressively white”? "

    Sure. You can't.

    Here's the juice: White supremacy = White Privilege = Whiteness = Whites being alive.

    So, to eradicate #s 1, 2, and 3, it will soon be seen as necessary to eliminate #4.

    By that time, hopefully, enough of the world champions of organized lethal violence (that is, whites) will have copped on to #It's OK To Be White to give us a fighting chance.

    Hope that helps.
    , @Bill
    Die.
    , @Olorin
    Go reverse Sammy Sosa and get yourself endarkenated.

    Oh wait, no. That's racial appropriation.

    OK then. Sorry, you can't avoid it. Third World mentalities are driven by scapegoat religion, autos da fe, female goddesses and the like.

    Welcome to Mount Cithaeron, white ram.

    , @Recondog
    It seems we are in the throes of a curious, annoying, perhaps fatal case of cultural Munchausen Syndrome. The point has been reached where the insane are making up windmills to tilt and non-problems to solve.
    Nothing good can or will ever come from this mass mental illness.
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  3. Mr White says:
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    I am not white or male and I agree... I don't see why it's so horrible to acknowledge reality. I am essentially libertarian and believe in the rights of the individual. what people of my ethnic group or my gender choose to do is not what _I_ am, I don't like the group identity stuff anyway. But if you place any value on truth, it's only logical to give credit to the people who created Western civilization, which anyone who values freedom will appreciate. Also give credit to Christianity, which began with Jesus, who was Jewish... without Christian values the world would be a much harsher place.

    This doesn't mean in any way that we don't also value the good things about other cultures, people, etc. I am glad when blacks, Asians, etc., have their contributions acknowledged. What I have an issue with is the deliberate and malicious devaluing of white people. Be fair, be impartial, be just. And also, white culture is not a monolith. Italian is different from British is different from Czech. The British Empire, for all it's faults, brought a great deal of good to the world at large.
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  4. Buck says:

    Triggered by the silence of the “aggressively white” girl. The conjecture of an addled mind is always a good laugh. These Buzz Feed folks need to be aggressively mocked.

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  5. Could someone provide a Taylor Swift primer? I’ve heard the name and I knew she was in show business but that’s all I know.

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    I’ve heard the name and I knew she was in show business but that’s all I know.
     
    You don't really need to know anything about her, all she sings about is ex-boyfriends and feuds with other stupid celebrities, totally vacuous and narcissistic stuff. Nothing serious people need to care about.
    , @JW
    She's a pop star.
    , @Anonymous
    Try Wikipedia.

    Basically Taylor Swift is a 27 year old white female who had at 19 a really huge record and has had a bunch more since. She appeals to a preteen to tween to teen (primarily white) female demo primarily.

    She is notorious for dating (and presumably rogering) famous men and then dumping them and writing a song about them. It's considered a rite of passage in certain quarters.

    Taylor is estimated to be worth $240 to $260 million, which is doing all right for a girl by most estimates. Madge is worth about $800 million, but at 27 she wasn't worth very much.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFZvbrCI3oo

    A lot of "serious" female rockers have never been invited to do that.
    , @black sea
    Bro, there's this thing called Wikipedia.
    , @Patrick Harris
    Your innocence is a beautiful thing and should be preserved.
    , @Buzz Mohawk
    I assumed y0u were making a point, a correct and witty one, that a pop star is not someone an adult would seriously be concerned with, much less debate over and write political screeds about as Alanna Bennet did.

    Then I read all the literal replies to your comment, and I don't know what to think. Do people really think they need to suggest Wikipedia and mock you as if you don't know how to look up something?

    Whatever. Though I think she is remarkable, it really doesn't matter who she is, and I think you already know that. I'm with you.
    , @biz
    Here's the only important thing to know, culturally:

    Taylor Swift is a singer who is slightly more wholesome than the rest of the current crop of singing divas that teen and pre-teen girls are fans of. She has no tattoos, has not dated a degenerate, acts sexy but not completely sexual, and seems to treat people, male and female, nicely without an excess of attitude. She also has a conventionally attractive thin body and beautiful face. As a consequence of all of the above, she is hated by woke culture.
    , @Bill
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  6. The person that typed this article (I refuse to refer to her as writer), Alanna Bennett seems to have a preoccupation with Taylor Swift if her twitter feed is any indication:

    https://twitter.com/AlannaBennett

    For whatever reason, I’m betting Alanna has a personal beef with Swift and is trying to defame her.

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  7. Svigor says:

    Sounds to me like her way of doing things is paying off, big time. As in, there’s nothing for the sort of scum who write these articles to grab.

    “You do not bow to our gods!”

    “K.”

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  8. Svigor says:

    Can someone tell me how someone who is white can avoid being “aggressively white”? I’m asking for a friend.

    Being aggressively white is all kinds of fun.

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  9. @International Jew
    Could someone provide a Taylor Swift primer? I've heard the name and I knew she was in show business but that's all I know.

    I’ve heard the name and I knew she was in show business but that’s all I know.

    You don’t really need to know anything about her, all she sings about is ex-boyfriends and feuds with other stupid celebrities, totally vacuous and narcissistic stuff. Nothing serious people need to care about.

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    Well, she did inspire a set of wicked awesome memes with Adolf Hitler's words inscribed over her image and vice versa:

    https://i.imgur.com/MyqNpAk.jpg
    https://i.imgur.com/ipeDKWr.jpg
    https://i.imgur.com/1sFm1fg.png
    https://i.imgur.com/lgsTxYy.png
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  11. Clyde says:

    From what little I have heard of her music, I don’t like it. It’s for a younger generation. Taylor Swift has found her niche and is making millions by exploiting it. There is a demand for whiter than white female singers who don’t hang with the brothers and don’t collaborate with them for absurd rap videos etc. TS didn’t figure this out all by herself. She listened to some sound advice.
    So even if she likes rap and wanted to do something with Jay Zee, she won’t. In order to maintain her image and keep the money rolling in. One look at her, she has a decent IQ. Just look at her very effective marketing campaign for her latest album. I will bet that she sells more albums as CDs than others. With the higher profits in CDs compared to downloads.
    She has never denounced Donald Trump. Another reason the multiKulti left has it in for Missy Snow White.

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    whiter than white female singers who don’t hang with the brothers and don’t collaborate with them for absurd rap videos etc.
     
    Huh?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcIy9NiNbmo

    , @NOTA
    It's utterly silly for anyone to ask a pop singer or sports star their opinion on politics, and even sillier for anyone to care about their response. It's like Jenny McCarthy being convinced vaccines cause autism--why on Earth would I care about her opinion?
    , @Nigerian Nationalist
    LMFAO, her latest album features Future of all people.
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  12. Dumbo says:

    “aggressively white” lol.

    but this is not “aggressively black”:

    https://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/jul/06/rihannas-bitch-better-have-my-money-feminism-misogyny-race

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  13. Twinkie says:

    aggressively white.

    I have a mental image of Swift in public screaming “white power!” in the faces of “people of color.” Is that what the author intended with the verbiage?

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    Is that what the author intended with the verbiage?
     
    By "Aggressively White" they mean "breathing".
    , @Anonymous
    Taylor definitely appeals to a mostly, but not exclusively white demo. Nonwhite female offspring of affluent suburban blacks, mestizos (usually conquistadorish) and Indians (dot-not-feather) will be seen occasinally at a Taylor Swift show.


    Of course she is not a racialist and sees one color in an audience-green.


    She has not really been adopted by WN/WP types on any level except as an injoke and an attempt to spread the meme. I remember when Jim Leskevich and Stan Sikorski had a popular WP podcast. They'd go off on 'Hersheys, the Official Chocolate of White Supremists. ' It was no more serious tha TS fanship in this context. No white male gives that much of a care about TS either way. Her music is simply filler to the male brain more or less.
    , @englishmike

    I have a mental image of Swift in public screaming “white power!” in the faces of “people of color.” Is that what the author intended with the verbiage?
     
    Whatever the author intended, she was merely contributing to a "cultural conversation": i.e. a one-sided political rant that is not a mutual exchange between two or more real people and has nothing to do with culture. IOW, neither cultural nor conversational.
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  14. JW says:
    @International Jew
    Could someone provide a Taylor Swift primer? I've heard the name and I knew she was in show business but that's all I know.

    She’s a pop star.

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  15. http://www.wnyc.org/story/taylor-swift-alt-right-icon/

    Mitchell Sunderland, Senior Staff Writer at Vice, breaks down the complicated semiotics of White Supremacy in teeny bop pop music. An amazing listen.

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  16. Twinkie says:
    @Not Raul
    Can someone tell me how someone who is white can avoid being "aggressively white"? I'm asking for a friend.

    Apologize, listen, and apologize some more. But not too much, so as to not take away talking time from PoC.

    Or, go transgender.

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  17. newrouter says:

    OT Africa watch:
    Plague Fears Grow As New Virus With No Cure Appears: “This Is Worse Than The ‘Black Death’”

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-11/plague-fears-grow-new-virus-no-cure-appears-worse-black-death

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  18. @Twinkie

    aggressively white.
     
    I have a mental image of Swift in public screaming “white power!” in the faces of “people of color.” Is that what the author intended with the verbiage?

    Is that what the author intended with the verbiage?

    By “Aggressively White” they mean “breathing”.

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  19. Mr. Blank says:

    The few liberals out there who haven’t completely lost their minds to identity politics should pay close attention to this. Essentially, the message is: Silence is not an option. You either vocally support every part of the progressive agenda or you’re Nazi scum.

    Which points to one possible explanation for Swift’s relative silence: It’s possible that she believes in some, but not all progressive pieties and she thinks, correctly, that it would be too complicated for her to explain it to shrieking leftists. While she’s vocal about supporting “feminism” in the abstract, she strikes me as someone who’d be very skeptical of some of the crazier ideas of the left.

    Her super girly-girl persona makes it hard for me to picture her being very enthusiastic about transgender stuff, for example. She seems like the sort of girl who wants a pink treehouse filled with stuffed animals and a big sign on the door that says “NO ICKY BOYS ALLOWED.”

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    I think her upbringing was fairly conservative and when she started out in country music that would have limited her exposure to crazy leftists a lot more than a teenage pop signer would experience. Your explanation sounds fairly reasonable too, although she really is trying for a hip hop sound now. It doesn't fit her at all.
    , @Bee7
    Progressives have gone from, "you can not say that" to "you have to say this, this, and this".
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  20. JerryC says:
    @Not Raul
    Can someone tell me how someone who is white can avoid being "aggressively white"? I'm asking for a friend.

    Alanna Bennett appears to be a white chick who is kinda sorta doing the Rachel Dolezal transracial thing. So…I guess you can avoid being labeled aggressively white by being more like Alanna Bennett.

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  21. “bleach stain”

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    Bleach does not stain white things.
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  22. anon says: • Disclaimer

    especially when that damage presents itself as white innocence

    Wow, “white innocence”. That’s a new one. I guess that’s what they call it when white people don’t actually do anything wrong, but just sit there and mind their own business?

    They’re really just going to keep pushing it, aren’t they?

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    Those who pretend to have "white innocence" are deniers of White Original Sin.
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  23. Barnard says:
    @Mr. Blank
    The few liberals out there who haven't completely lost their minds to identity politics should pay close attention to this. Essentially, the message is: Silence is not an option. You either vocally support every part of the progressive agenda or you're Nazi scum.

    Which points to one possible explanation for Swift's relative silence: It's possible that she believes in some, but not all progressive pieties and she thinks, correctly, that it would be too complicated for her to explain it to shrieking leftists. While she's vocal about supporting "feminism" in the abstract, she strikes me as someone who'd be very skeptical of some of the crazier ideas of the left.

    Her super girly-girl persona makes it hard for me to picture her being very enthusiastic about transgender stuff, for example. She seems like the sort of girl who wants a pink treehouse filled with stuffed animals and a big sign on the door that says "NO ICKY BOYS ALLOWED."

    I think her upbringing was fairly conservative and when she started out in country music that would have limited her exposure to crazy leftists a lot more than a teenage pop signer would experience. Your explanation sounds fairly reasonable too, although she really is trying for a hip hop sound now. It doesn’t fit her at all.

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  24. scrivener3 says: • Website

    Someone who writes this sort of stuff cannot actually believe what they are writing. I think it is a sort of s**t test to discover the response, in order to judge the fitness of the adversary more than anything else.

    Women have a dog’s instinct for rooting out weakness, and they are always very interested in whether their protectors or side is weak or strong.

    Did not Trump totally defuse an attack like this when Foxnews anchor repeated his quotes about women being fat, ugly, aggressive, by countering “only about Rosie O’Donnell”?

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    I suspect plenty of propogandists over the years have believed the nonsense they were writing, and this lady is likely no different.
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  25. Herzog says:

    So this is what the “educated” girls talk about among themselves. Small wonder there’s are marriage strike unfolding.

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  26. Whiskey says: • Website

    Aggressively White is the name of the next most obnoxious punk band. Or Larry the Cable Guys next comedy tour. Which ever comes first

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  27. Just wondering what Alanna Bennet looked like, and found this…

    But why would anyone with this appearance ever be jealous of of a person like this

    Just asking…

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  28. Roger says: • Website

    Andrew Anglin is a fan of Taylor Swift, and he posts trolling neo-Nazi articles. Is that part of the problem with her?

    She has threatened to sue those who associate her with white supremacy.

    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/taylor-swift-threatens-to-sue-blogger-who-connected-her-to-white-supremacists/

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    Pro-white trolling can be fun for its own sake, but it's also good from an accelerationist perspective: it makes people choose sides and cut to the chase.
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  29. The Anglo-American mainstream media is rapidly going full-Nazi. Goebbels would’ve been proud of this article.

    Nazi Germany: Aryan good, Jew bad, Russia evil.
    Identity Politics West: Brown good, white bad, Russia evil.

    Do we really have to go through the same disaster again?

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  30. @Not Raul
    Can someone tell me how someone who is white can avoid being "aggressively white"? I'm asking for a friend.

    UMC whites need to feel deracinated for status purposes. Many pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to go to places like Middlebury or Reed to get their deracination cards. In order to make the deracination experience feel authentic, those schools have imported a certain number of non-whites, the more obstreperous the better.

    Those non-whites have used that experience to figure out what those whites are desperate to have (deracination) and they’re making them pay through the nose to get it.

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  31. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Not Raul
    Can someone tell me how someone who is white can avoid being "aggressively white"? I'm asking for a friend.

    Can someone tell me how someone who is white can avoid being “aggressively white”? I’m asking for a friend

    Become a complete and total fuckup; be a parasite on the rest, violent, druggie, felon, held back in kindergarden, drive without a valid license, just break the law and don’t play by the rules.

    That would be a decent starting place, but the PoC will provide other examples…..just copy what they’re up to.

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  32. SND says:

    So it’s OK to be white, but only if you support Hillary Clinton. Then you’re a goodwhite.

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  33. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @International Jew
    Could someone provide a Taylor Swift primer? I've heard the name and I knew she was in show business but that's all I know.

    Try Wikipedia.

    Basically Taylor Swift is a 27 year old white female who had at 19 a really huge record and has had a bunch more since. She appeals to a preteen to tween to teen (primarily white) female demo primarily.

    She is notorious for dating (and presumably rogering) famous men and then dumping them and writing a song about them. It’s considered a rite of passage in certain quarters.

    Taylor is estimated to be worth $240 to $260 million, which is doing all right for a girl by most estimates. Madge is worth about $800 million, but at 27 she wasn’t worth very much.

    A lot of “serious” female rockers have never been invited to do that.

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    I get a very strong Caitlyn Jenner vibe from her
    , @International Jew
    Who's Madge??
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  34. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    “Absenting”. You can pretty much assume that anyone who creates a non-standard verb out of an adjective is so far into the loony left that they aren’t even worth listening to.

    At this point, the cultural divide in this country is so great that the left feels a need to create their own dialect. We can’t have a conversation because we don’t even speak the same language.

    We can’t even agree on what conversation means. Is it a long winded, hectoring sermon delivered by a self- appointed moral arbiter? Or is it two people exchanging ideas and trying to see things from the other person’s perspective? The definition you choose places you very clearly in one camp or the other.

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    “Absenting”. You can pretty much assume that anyone who creates a non-standard verb out of an adjective is so far into the loony left that they aren’t even worth listening to.
     
    What? One of the definitions of absent is as a verb: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/absent
    My compact OED gives etymologies of the English verb from back into the 1400s and it comes from the Latin absentāre: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/absentare (via French)
    ing is used to conjugate certain verb forms (e.g. present participle). Here is a verb conjugation table for absent: http://conjugator.reverso.net/conjugation-english-verb-absent.html
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  35. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Twinkie

    aggressively white.
     
    I have a mental image of Swift in public screaming “white power!” in the faces of “people of color.” Is that what the author intended with the verbiage?

    Taylor definitely appeals to a mostly, but not exclusively white demo. Nonwhite female offspring of affluent suburban blacks, mestizos (usually conquistadorish) and Indians (dot-not-feather) will be seen occasinally at a Taylor Swift show.

    Of course she is not a racialist and sees one color in an audience-green.

    She has not really been adopted by WN/WP types on any level except as an injoke and an attempt to spread the meme. I remember when Jim Leskevich and Stan Sikorski had a popular WP podcast. They’d go off on ‘Hersheys, the Official Chocolate of White Supremists. ‘ It was no more serious tha TS fanship in this context. No white male gives that much of a care about TS either way. Her music is simply filler to the male brain more or less.

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    How dare you! I would not be caught dead at a Taylor Swift show.
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  36. Actually, the abuse directed at Taylor Swift demonstrates just how psychotic things are becoming.

    She’s a successful pop star and, that’s about it, really. There are no scandals; she’s as bland as they come (both in terms of personality and music). There really is no there there. Certainly nothing political.

    Her music does nothing for me — fair enough, I’m not her target audience — but she’s as inoffensive as a celebrity gets.

    For her to attract this degree of rage and hatred is frankly disturbing.

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  37. @Arclight
    I always find this idea that the 'silence' of various public figures carries any weight at all hilarious, given the total lack of effect various celebrity statements or solemn videos in favor of Obama or against Trump had on the election results.

    Now the silence of various people in the entertainment industry probably did have real world effects on the number of women who were harassed or assaulted by powerful progressives, but let's not dwell on that.

    given the total lack of effect various celebrity statements or solemn videos in favor of Obama or against Trump had on the election results.

    I’d say they had a material negative effect on Trump’s for/against vote tally.

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  38. Can the number of people who might think this piece is truly about Swift possibly exceed the number of people who think the piece is all about the octoroon who wrote it and her own internalized hang ups?

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    http://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/hermione-characters-reimagined-1.3375015

    A black Hermione already existed in fans' imaginations

    Harry Potter play's casting reflects a growing trend of reimagining characters more diversely

    ... "I never thought this would actually happen, especially now. I thought I might see it when I was old and looking back at how bad the representation was at the turn of the century," New York writer and Harry Potter fan Alanna Bennett told CBC News. "It's honestly one of the best things I've ever seen happen. It means everything."
     
    , @Michelle
    Exactly!!! Jealousy, thy name is woman!
    , @AndrewR
    Like "Ta-Nehisi" Coates, this Bennett girl is clearly bitter primarily due to her aesthetically-challenged face, but she sublimates that bitterness into anti-white rhetoric because it's much more socially acceptable to say "Taylor Swift sucks because she's aggressively white" than to say "Taylor Swift sucks because she's much, much better looking than I am"
    , @silviosilver

    Can the number of people who might think this piece is truly about Swift possibly exceed the number of people who think the piece is all about the octoroon who wrote it and her own internalized hang ups?
     
    It's a consequence of living in an "anti-racist" pro-black, anti-white world. In this world, people like her feel empowered to take out their never-ending frustrations on whites, and to play up their associations with blackness.

    In a pro-white, anti-black world, people like her would play up her associations with whiteness and play down her associations with blackness.

    In a pro-white world, her motto would be "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em."

    In our pro-black world, her motto is "if you can't join 'em, beat 'em."

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  39. syonredux says:
    @Not Raul
    Can someone tell me how someone who is white can avoid being "aggressively white"? I'm asking for a friend.

    Can someone tell me how someone who is white can avoid being “aggressively white”? I’m asking for a friend.

    Converting to Islam is pretty effective….

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  40. syonredux says:

    In case anyone was wondering, yes, Alanna Bennett, the author of the piece, is Black(ish)

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    Sailer's Law of Female Journalism, I think.

    She's much better than average for a "black" female "journalist", but she's no Taylor Swift.

    She should lose the smug expression. Also, completely reject SJWism and embrace reality. She really would be more attractive that way.
    , @Moses
    And she went to Oberlin. Say no more.

    My cousin's kid got an athletic scholarship to Oberlin. He transferred after his first year. White jocks are *hated* at Oberlin. He got the hell out of there.
    , @Percy Gryce
    Isn't this just an instance of Sailer's Law of Female Journalism? Or perhaps the racial corollary?
    , @Clyde
    Color her jealous. A conflicted mixed race child. So close yet so far away.
    , @Ed
    I feel like many of these black writers are just running out of things to write about that’s race related. I look at her and can easily tell she grew up quite comfortable far away from the hood.

    She can’t write about ghetto blacks so she writes about things she knows, suburban white stuff like Taylor Swift.
    , @Thomas
    Yeah I googled her too. More hate for Becky-With-the-Good-Hair. It’s pretty funny though that any female journalist thinks she’s going to out-Alpha Bitch the singer behind “Shake It Off.”
    , @Ironsides
    She's the color of a Simpsons character. I'm offended by the fact that she's aggressively yellow.
    , @Bill B.
    An alcoholic is someone who drinks more than his doctor.

    An aggressively white person is someone a shade lighter than Ms Bennett.
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  41. Or maybe she’s just a pop singer.

    They hate her because she’s damn near perfect, as if she was built fifty years in the future by Japan’s best fembot designers.

    And I don’t even know a single one of her songs.

    Here’s why they hate whiteness:

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    They hate her because she’s damn near perfect, as if she was built fifty years in the future by Japan’s best fembot designers.
     
    If your idea of female perfection is 5'11" and has a bottom whose flatness is about between Nancy Sinatra's and Chrissie Hynde's when both were her age , okay.
    , @fish

    ....as if she was built fifty years in the future by Japan’s best fembot designers.
     
    Has been described as the worlds first supermodel with legitimate musical talent!

    That plus business acumen!

    Let’s us all bow before the hot super being/overlord!
    , @Big Bill
    Regarding the Taylor Swift photo, when and where do girls learn that toes-tucked-in, bent-knee, half-turned, knees-perfectly-overlapping, look-at-my-ass-it's-so-fine posture for photos? In middle school? At beauty-queen competitions? Cheerleader training?

    I recently looked at several generations worth of family photos and didn't find one of them with this "come hither" posture. I get the Marilyn Monroe/Jane Mansfield/Kardashian shoulders-hunched-together, forward-leaning, head-tossed-back, boobs-falling-out posture. It's a pretty straight-forward, take-a-look-at-these-big-puppies-I-am-pouring into your-lap sex pose, but the Taylor Swift posture seems much more complicated and asymmetric.

    Any comments, ladies?
    , @TheJester
    A PERFECT 10 and white to boot. Does it get any better?

    But between Taylor Swift and Ivanka Kushner. I'd choose Ivanka. My only concern is that she is a Japanese fembot. The Japanese are so good at this.
    , @Truth

    They hate her because she’s damn near perfect,
     
    Size 12 feet, and adam's apple the size of the hope diamond and hands like an arc welder?

    Not my idea of perfection, Old Sport, but it is a free country.
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  42. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Alec Leamas
    Can the number of people who might think this piece is truly about Swift possibly exceed the number of people who think the piece is all about the octoroon who wrote it and her own internalized hang ups?

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/hermione-characters-reimagined-1.3375015

    A black Hermione already existed in fans’ imaginations

    Harry Potter play’s casting reflects a growing trend of reimagining characters more diversely

    … “I never thought this would actually happen, especially now. I thought I might see it when I was old and looking back at how bad the representation was at the turn of the century,” New York writer and Harry Potter fan Alanna Bennett told CBC News. “It’s honestly one of the best things I’ve ever seen happen. It means everything.”

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  43. Michelle says:
    @Alec Leamas
    Can the number of people who might think this piece is truly about Swift possibly exceed the number of people who think the piece is all about the octoroon who wrote it and her own internalized hang ups?

    Exactly!!! Jealousy, thy name is woman!

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  44. Taylor Swift isn’t “aggressively white.” She’s just a pop star who stays out of politics.

    Kid Rock is very aggressive about White American male masculinity. Here’s one of his songs. It’s the sort of song that Trump supporters instinctively like.

    Bonnie Taylor’s songs express traditional White American male masculinity and White American female femininity.

    This famous Tammy Wynette song strongly expresses and glorifies traditional Southern white femininity.

    In general, country and rock attract the most “aggresively white” musicians. Not pop music and definitely not rap.

    Here’s a song by white rapper Eminem. He’s aggressively masculine, but somewhat defensiveness about his whiteness. In this song, he’s trying to display that despite being white, he can still fit in the world of hypermasculine black rappers.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Yhyp-_hX2s

    Here’s a song by Indie rock group Young the Giant. Vaguely masculine, but in an apologetic and sedate way. You won’t be surprised to find out that these guys supported Bernie Sanders.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p11XD7Zhw4U

    Hillary Clinton claimed she loved the music of Demi Lovato, who did a lot of campaigning with Hillary. In this song, Lovato expresses her ball busting femininity

    You won’t be too surprised to find out that Michelle Obama is a huge fan of Beyonce.

    Music is an expression of who people are and the subculture they represent.

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    This song is popular with cocky young white men.

    The type of guys who join the Air Force academy, frats, and lacross teams.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siwpn14IE7E

    Simon and Garfunkel is the type of music that Bernie Brahs like. Not surprisingly, the Bernie campaign ran one of their song in this ad.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nwRiuh1Cug
    , @Dave Pinsen

    In general, country and rock attract the most “aggresively white” musicians. Not pop music and definitely not rap.
     
    Swift was writing country songs in Nashville at 14. She was a country star before she was a pop star, and she's still played on country stations.
    , @Allen
    That's a reasonable analysis of the artists and songs except for Bonnie Tyler, who is Welsh not American; and Holding out for a Hero was written by the Jewish Jim Steinman. (Note, I really like Jim Steinman as a songwriter, he wrote every good song by Meatloaf, and don't find any "subversive" qualities in his writing). Considering Bonnie Tyler originally started out as the "female Rod Stewart" on stuff like It's a Heartache, it's sort of a stretch to call her the voice of American Femininity.
    , @snorlax
    Bonnie Tyler is Welsh.
    , @Anonymous
    If we're having a "conversation" about Eminem and white girls (yeah, I'm trying to be provacative, but I'm serious and I find this interesting too...):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxEjXuZ2Mpo
    , @AndrewR
    The target audience for that Kid Rock video has got to be people with IQs under 90.
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  45. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @syonredux
    In case anyone was wondering, yes, Alanna Bennett, the author of the piece, is Black(ish)



    https://lovelace-media.imgix.net/uploads/76/037b4e40-8325-0132-1d9a-0a2c89e5f2f5.png

    Sailer’s Law of Female Journalism, I think.

    She’s much better than average for a “black” female “journalist”, but she’s no Taylor Swift.

    She should lose the smug expression. Also, completely reject SJWism and embrace reality. She really would be more attractive that way.

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    Don'st look smug. Just friendly/neutral.
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  46. @JohnnyWalker123
    Taylor Swift isn't "aggressively white." She's just a pop star who stays out of politics.

    Kid Rock is very aggressive about White American male masculinity. Here's one of his songs. It's the sort of song that Trump supporters instinctively like.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt84J7U75e0

    Bonnie Taylor's songs express traditional White American male masculinity and White American female femininity.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWcASV2sey0

    This famous Tammy Wynette song strongly expresses and glorifies traditional Southern white femininity.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwBirf4BWew

    In general, country and rock attract the most "aggresively white" musicians. Not pop music and definitely not rap.

    Here's a song by white rapper Eminem. He's aggressively masculine, but somewhat defensiveness about his whiteness. In this song, he's trying to display that despite being white, he can still fit in the world of hypermasculine black rappers.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Yhyp-_hX2s

    Here's a song by Indie rock group Young the Giant. Vaguely masculine, but in an apologetic and sedate way. You won't be surprised to find out that these guys supported Bernie Sanders.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p11XD7Zhw4U

    Hillary Clinton claimed she loved the music of Demi Lovato, who did a lot of campaigning with Hillary. In this song, Lovato expresses her ball busting femininity

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwLRQn61oUY

    You won't be too surprised to find out that Michelle Obama is a huge fan of Beyonce.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyYnnUcgeMc

    Music is an expression of who people are and the subculture they represent.

    This song is popular with cocky young white men.

    The type of guys who join the Air Force academy, frats, and lacross teams.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siwpn14IE7E

    Simon and Garfunkel is the type of music that Bernie Brahs like. Not surprisingly, the Bernie campaign ran one of their song in this ad.

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    • Replies: @(((Owen)))
    That was a deeply successful Bernie ad, the kind of appeal that would have won the election in IA, OH, (western) PA, WI, MN, and—of course—MI.

    It's worth watching carefully. Bernie's whole platform of progressive values aimed at core America instead of the fringes was a brilliant gambit. Just couldn't overcome the vibrant diversity machine, though.
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  47. Moses says:

    “Aggressively White.”

    I think it means “Has not yet apologized for being White.”

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  48. Moses says:
    @syonredux
    In case anyone was wondering, yes, Alanna Bennett, the author of the piece, is Black(ish)



    https://lovelace-media.imgix.net/uploads/76/037b4e40-8325-0132-1d9a-0a2c89e5f2f5.png

    And she went to Oberlin. Say no more.

    My cousin’s kid got an athletic scholarship to Oberlin. He transferred after his first year. White jocks are *hated* at Oberlin. He got the hell out of there.

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    I'd be interested to hear stories from his experience there
    , @EdwardM
    Sorry to be pedantic, but isn't it true that Oberlin, as a Division III school, does not offer athletic scholarships?

    Of course they presumably still recruit athletes, and maybe give them some kind of incentives that skirt the no-scholarship policy.
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  49. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    I’m a let you finish, but Taylor Swift does a nice job covering one of the great pop songs of this decade.

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    That's a beautiful rendition, almost a ballad.

    I haven't looked at any of Swift's work prior to this thread, but this song makes it obvious to me she's bursting with talent.

    I don't expect celebrities to participate in political discussions. It's not their forte, they generally don't know much, and they can express a cultural zeitgeist in music or art without really understanding it. Socrates understood that, saying that artists are not really the best interpreters of their own art.

    The left insists that art be politicized, because the left pushes its ideas through crowd-think rather than through logic or facts. I think the best response of nationalists or white nationalists is to let artists do their art; patronize what you like and don't attend what you don't like.
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  50. BigMike says:

    Perhaps Taylor became disillusioned by the aggressive blackness shown when Kanye West grabbed the mic from her to complain that Beyonce should have won the Grammy.

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    ...the aggressive blackness shown when Kanye West grabbed the mic from her to complain that Beyonce should have won the Grammy.
     
    He didn't want to "absent himself" from the "cultural conversation".
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  51. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @JohnnyWalker123
    Taylor Swift isn't "aggressively white." She's just a pop star who stays out of politics.

    Kid Rock is very aggressive about White American male masculinity. Here's one of his songs. It's the sort of song that Trump supporters instinctively like.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt84J7U75e0

    Bonnie Taylor's songs express traditional White American male masculinity and White American female femininity.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWcASV2sey0

    This famous Tammy Wynette song strongly expresses and glorifies traditional Southern white femininity.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwBirf4BWew

    In general, country and rock attract the most "aggresively white" musicians. Not pop music and definitely not rap.

    Here's a song by white rapper Eminem. He's aggressively masculine, but somewhat defensiveness about his whiteness. In this song, he's trying to display that despite being white, he can still fit in the world of hypermasculine black rappers.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Yhyp-_hX2s

    Here's a song by Indie rock group Young the Giant. Vaguely masculine, but in an apologetic and sedate way. You won't be surprised to find out that these guys supported Bernie Sanders.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p11XD7Zhw4U

    Hillary Clinton claimed she loved the music of Demi Lovato, who did a lot of campaigning with Hillary. In this song, Lovato expresses her ball busting femininity

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwLRQn61oUY

    You won't be too surprised to find out that Michelle Obama is a huge fan of Beyonce.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyYnnUcgeMc

    Music is an expression of who people are and the subculture they represent.

    In general, country and rock attract the most “aggresively white” musicians. Not pop music and definitely not rap.

    Swift was writing country songs in Nashville at 14. She was a country star before she was a pop star, and she’s still played on country stations.

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    Swift's songs seem mostly marketed at young girls. Especially girls who have crushes on guys that are out of their league. She's not someone trying to make any political statements. She'd be an odd person for liberals to hate.

    Here's a typical Taylor Swift song.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdneKLhsWOQ

    The handsome guy in the above song is Scott Eastwood, son of Clint Eastwood.
    , @Anonymous
    Nominally or purportedly a country artist, Taylor's most recent styling phase was (up until last month or so) reminiscent of something between Pat Benatar and Debbie Harry. With maybe a little Dusty Springfield thrown in. Not a country look.

    And you won't find fiddles, steel guitars or anything else very country sounding on her records as far as I can tell.
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  52. Anon 2 says:

    Another one:

    Paula Cole, “Where have all the cowboys gone?” (1997)

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  53. @syonredux
    In case anyone was wondering, yes, Alanna Bennett, the author of the piece, is Black(ish)



    https://lovelace-media.imgix.net/uploads/76/037b4e40-8325-0132-1d9a-0a2c89e5f2f5.png

    Isn’t this just an instance of Sailer’s Law of Female Journalism? Or perhaps the racial corollary?

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  54. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Buzz Mohawk
    Or maybe she's just a pop singer.

    They hate her because she's damn near perfect, as if she was built fifty years in the future by Japan's best fembot designers.

    And I don't even know a single one of her songs.

    Here's why they hate whiteness:

    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/f6/6b/b9/f66bb947e05f7a17bf7936bf41a344a2.jpg

    They hate her because she’s damn near perfect, as if she was built fifty years in the future by Japan’s best fembot designers.

    If your idea of female perfection is 5’11″ and has a bottom whose flatness is about between Nancy Sinatra’s and Chrissie Hynde’s when both were her age , okay.

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    Female height is super attractive (to men who truly appreciate a female figure and aren't just self-conscious about appearing short)! How else do you explain the fact that high heels exist?

    As for Swift's posterior, I have read an entire detailed online thread on it at one point where people analyzed it from all angles and the only proper conclusion is that it is completely adequate. No, it is not at Kardashian or Minaj levels of steatopygia, but it is sufficient.

    The previous commenter was right. Some day when AI can design and construct the perfect waifu for mass consumption, it will basically be her. Or they could just program the opposite of Alanna Bennet, same thing.

    , @Buzz Mohawk
    Well, I did say she was built by Japanese experts in robotics. Hence the flat bottom you say she has. I don't know about that, because I haven't had the opportunity to grab it, unfortunately.

    Anyone who denies that Taylor Swift is blessed with outstanding beauty must be blind. They hate her because she has talent, success, beauty, and enough brains to make smart career decisions. They absolutely envy and hate that, for the same reasons they hate us.

    They hate her because a man like me finds her far more desirable than any one of them.

    They also hate her because she does not care what they think. We should follow her example. It drives them mad.

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  55. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    I think that one thing that eludes many is that – if I’m not mistaken – most top level female pop stars are significantly more intelligent than the typical person. This might not be their image, but that is because they are smart enough to not make it their image. They are probably significantly more intelligent than most of the people who comment on them.

    This seems to be true no matter what their expressed “political” or “social” views are. That isn’t what they are thinking about. They are thinking about music and image and certain aspects of culture. Often dance and fashion.

    Taylor Swift strikes me as intelligent enough to know that anything she says on political matters will come back to harm her. She is very good at doing what she is actually good at and wants to focus on that, and that requires intellectual focus.

    Even very SJWish stars like Miley Cyrus and Lada Gaga refrain from overtly ideological stuff. Both of them strike me as rather intelligent, but even though they push SJW themes through imagery, they seem to refrain from trying to make “pronouncements”. By contrast, Katy Perry seems slightly below their level, and seems to have been captured by politics. She went all in for Hillary, and probably won’t recover. By contrast, Lady Gaga did the last Super Bowl, and I thought she was great – it will probably be the greatest Super Bowl ever, as the NFL will likely collapse.

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    Lady Gaga was in some old tracking study of intelligent children, or something like that. Not the most elite one, but nothing to sneeze at. And she's a really good singer as she showed at some Academy Awards show when she did a Julie Andrews tribute singing Julie Andrews old songs about as well as Julie Andrews would have at that age.
    , @RonaldB
    There are actually two reasons not to pay any attention to the political statements of artists, even though they are very intelligent, as you pointed out.

    One reason is that an intelligent view on most issues takes some knowledge and thought, which as you also pointed out, artists simply don't have time for. The best use of their time is to spend it on their art, which may reflect popular culture, but which is not the same as a reasoned commentary. They simply don't know enough at make intelligent comments, which is nothing against them.

    A second reason is that intelligence is general but also specific, and artists do not necessarily have the specific abilities necessary for a reasoned discussion. It can be argued that art comes from an emotional and intuitive base, rather than a logical base. So, art is a completely different pursuit from political analysis. Viva la difference.
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  56. Allen says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    Taylor Swift isn't "aggressively white." She's just a pop star who stays out of politics.

    Kid Rock is very aggressive about White American male masculinity. Here's one of his songs. It's the sort of song that Trump supporters instinctively like.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt84J7U75e0

    Bonnie Taylor's songs express traditional White American male masculinity and White American female femininity.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWcASV2sey0

    This famous Tammy Wynette song strongly expresses and glorifies traditional Southern white femininity.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwBirf4BWew

    In general, country and rock attract the most "aggresively white" musicians. Not pop music and definitely not rap.

    Here's a song by white rapper Eminem. He's aggressively masculine, but somewhat defensiveness about his whiteness. In this song, he's trying to display that despite being white, he can still fit in the world of hypermasculine black rappers.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Yhyp-_hX2s

    Here's a song by Indie rock group Young the Giant. Vaguely masculine, but in an apologetic and sedate way. You won't be surprised to find out that these guys supported Bernie Sanders.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p11XD7Zhw4U

    Hillary Clinton claimed she loved the music of Demi Lovato, who did a lot of campaigning with Hillary. In this song, Lovato expresses her ball busting femininity

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwLRQn61oUY

    You won't be too surprised to find out that Michelle Obama is a huge fan of Beyonce.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyYnnUcgeMc

    Music is an expression of who people are and the subculture they represent.

    That’s a reasonable analysis of the artists and songs except for Bonnie Tyler, who is Welsh not American; and Holding out for a Hero was written by the Jewish Jim Steinman. (Note, I really like Jim Steinman as a songwriter, he wrote every good song by Meatloaf, and don’t find any “subversive” qualities in his writing). Considering Bonnie Tyler originally started out as the “female Rod Stewart” on stuff like It’s a Heartache, it’s sort of a stretch to call her the voice of American Femininity.

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    Rod Stewart was the Scottish rock version of Sam Cooke, so maybe Bonnie has some Americans in her that way.
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  57. @Dave Pinsen

    In general, country and rock attract the most “aggresively white” musicians. Not pop music and definitely not rap.
     
    Swift was writing country songs in Nashville at 14. She was a country star before she was a pop star, and she's still played on country stations.

    Swift’s songs seem mostly marketed at young girls. Especially girls who have crushes on guys that are out of their league. She’s not someone trying to make any political statements. She’d be an odd person for liberals to hate.

    Here’s a typical Taylor Swift song.

    The handsome guy in the above song is Scott Eastwood, son of Clint Eastwood.

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    She’d be an odd person for liberals to hate.
     
    Black women are the ones driving the anti-Taylor Swift hate
    , @German_reader
    That video was criticized for romanticizing colonialism iirc.
    , @syonredux
    More Black anti-Taylor Swiftness:

    Before we begin, we should first acknowledge that all Beckies are the same. Maybe one day in the near future we will have a complete listing of the different kinds of Beckies, but for today, you should just know that according to the National Academy of White Women Arts and Sciences, Taylor Swift is rated as a Class C Becky, which is a midlevel ranking that corresponds to her milquetoast, passive-aggressive whiteness.
     

    But for all her alabaster averageness, Swift sits in the Beckydom somewhere between Megyn Kelly and the white woman at your job who secretly complained to HR when you wore a Black Lives Matter T-shirt on casual Friday.

    On Thursday, Taylor Swift released the first single from her expected-to-be-a-hit album Reputation. Although no one has heard it, it is expected to be another compilation of angst-filled songs calling out her ex-boyfriends, and tunes waxing rhapsodic about how hard it is for a young, blond, millionaire white woman to get ahead in the world.

    Here’s the problem: The album will be released on Nov. 10, which is (probably not) coincidentally 10 years after of the death of nemesis Kanye West’s mother, Donda, to the exact day.
     
    http://thegrapevine.theroot.com/taylor-swift-is-releasing-her-album-on-the-10th-anniver-1798429589

    Public figures are—both fairly and unfairly—scrutinized more because of the influence they hold. Swift has been highly criticized for using feminism as a marketing tool, staying mostly silent during the election, and manipulating the press through victimhood. In the case with Kanye, it felt especially sinister how the entire situation fit into the mold of “scary black man bullies white girl.” (I reommend this Buzzfeed article, which is a detailed, and in-depth dive into how Swift’s career has often played on the projection of victimhood.)
     
    https://www.themarysue.com/taylor-swift-look-what-you-made-me-do/
    , @syonredux
    Still more Black anti-Taylor Swiftness:

    The image of a hulking black man terrorizing a young, innocent, Southern white girl is hardly new in American pop culture. The 1915 movie The Birth of a Nation, the D.W. Griffith silent film about the rise of the KKK in the Reconstruction-era South (commonly known as the first true blockbuster) captured that fear and capitalized on it. Mae Marsh’s character was willing to throw herself over a cliff rather than let the villainous black man — played by white actor Walter Long in blackface — get his hands on her; for better or worse, it’s an iconic Hollywood moment.
     

    Americans have been conditioned to see black men as threatening for generations, and the consequences of this conditioning range from a pop starlet being able to paint a rapper as a villain for nearly a decade because she feels “bullied” to police officers shooting unarmed men in front of convenience stores because they felt “unsafe.” Obviously Kanye’s feud with Taylor is far less serious than any death by police shooting, but these cultural moments represent two ends of the same spectrum, a spectrum of systemic racism playing out in America.
     

    His VMAs stunt wasn’t nice, no, but it also happened in 2009 and didn’t really do any harm to Taylor (on the contrary, it wildly helped her career). But just as we’re conditioned to see black men as threatening, we’ve also been conditioned to respond immediately to the tears and emotions of a white woman. (The defense of a white woman’s virtue was once cause for literal lynchings.)

    Whether Taylor knows it or not (and I suspect she knows it), if Kim hadn’t released those Snapchats, there’s a large portion of America that simply would have continued to take her word over Kanye’s and believed that he was harassing her in the media out of spite. We’re a country structurally set up to protect whiteness over blackness, and at least one reason 2016 has been the dumpster fire that it has been is because of the way America sees black men — and black people — in general. Blackness is threatening, even if the worst thing it’s done to you is jump into your spotlight on a Grammys stage or try to sell you some loose cigarettes on the street. While Kim exposing Taylor isn’t going to solve racism in America, she’s not distracting from the narrative or “real issues” at all. She managed to say, “Keep my man’s name out ya mouth,” and highlight our country’s macro social problems on a micro scale.

     
    http://www.unz.com/isteve/get-out/?highlight=taylor+swift#comment-1783714
    , @Cloudswrest
    BTW, she was accused of cultural appropriation and hyping colonialism (set in Africa) for that one.
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  58. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Dave Pinsen

    In general, country and rock attract the most “aggresively white” musicians. Not pop music and definitely not rap.
     
    Swift was writing country songs in Nashville at 14. She was a country star before she was a pop star, and she's still played on country stations.

    Nominally or purportedly a country artist, Taylor’s most recent styling phase was (up until last month or so) reminiscent of something between Pat Benatar and Debbie Harry. With maybe a little Dusty Springfield thrown in. Not a country look.

    And you won’t find fiddles, steel guitars or anything else very country sounding on her records as far as I can tell.

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    You do understand that she writes and performs songs in more than one genre, right? Swift just won song of the year at the CMA awards, for a country song she wrote.
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  59. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Taylor Swift is well known in pop culture for dating a lot of celebrity men to advance her career. The meaning behind that blog post is Taylor Swift needs to date a black man. Look what dating a black woman did for Prince Harry.

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    Well, they're mostly PR relationships that benefit both parties' careers. Specifically in Swift's case, it's rumoured that in a lot of those arrangements she's not just any kind of PR gf, but the guys' beard.
    , @Chrisnonymous
    Did he get a disease?
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  60. Clyde says:
    @syonredux
    In case anyone was wondering, yes, Alanna Bennett, the author of the piece, is Black(ish)



    https://lovelace-media.imgix.net/uploads/76/037b4e40-8325-0132-1d9a-0a2c89e5f2f5.png

    Color her jealous. A conflicted mixed race child. So close yet so far away.

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  61. syonredux says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    Swift's songs seem mostly marketed at young girls. Especially girls who have crushes on guys that are out of their league. She's not someone trying to make any political statements. She'd be an odd person for liberals to hate.

    Here's a typical Taylor Swift song.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdneKLhsWOQ

    The handsome guy in the above song is Scott Eastwood, son of Clint Eastwood.

    She’d be an odd person for liberals to hate.

    Black women are the ones driving the anti-Taylor Swift hate

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    Exactly. Their jealousy is palpable. You don't see black men writing these articles. I wonder why.
    , @Desiderius
    Yep. Also, not liberal.
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  62. black sea says:
    @International Jew
    Could someone provide a Taylor Swift primer? I've heard the name and I knew she was in show business but that's all I know.

    Bro, there’s this thing called Wikipedia.

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  63. guest says:

    “Taylor Swift’s reputation is a complicated mess.”

    Just because you’re confused doesn’t mean it’s complicated.

    The image of Taylor Swift was picked up by white supremacists because she’s white and pretty.

    People who don’t like white supremacists don’t like that, and take it out on Swift because Swift hasn’t to my knowledge virtue signalled on the issue.

    Swift hasn’t denounced the white supremacist appropriation of herself–again, to my knowledge–because she doesn’t have to. There’s not much downside in not taking sides, unless you count “woke” black female journalists bitching about you

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  64. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    I was on the verge of posting that video myself.

    First, I’d like to give some tips to the SJW’s. I’m rather inclined towards Nietzsche and I hope for stronger enemies. They should point out that she’s making a video set in Africa that seems to have almost no black people. Maybe there were some porters in the background or something. They should say things like: “Africa is just a setting for her to display her whiteness…” Roll with it, bring the hate. Maybe they already do this.

    Back to reality: the absurd and somewhat tragic thing about this video is that the Taylor Swift character feels basically helpless in the face of this handsome guy. Yes, she’s supposedly “acting”, but most viewers will see her character as… Taylor Swift. And most viewers, like myself until you noted that he was Clint Eastwood’s son, will have no idea who this guy is, apart from his being a fairly good looking apparently masculine guy.

    Now, the “feminist” view will no doubt be that “Taylor Swift” should have more pride in her “girl power” and not be so infatuated with this hunk. OK.

    My view is that viewers actually see the character as Taylor Swift, who is genuinely good-looking, and intelligent, and hard-working. And the best she can hope for is that this unnamed hunk will “remember” her nicely after a fling. There’s the tragedy. There is ultimately no vision of what her many virtues can actually produce in human life.

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  65. @JohnnyWalker123
    Swift's songs seem mostly marketed at young girls. Especially girls who have crushes on guys that are out of their league. She's not someone trying to make any political statements. She'd be an odd person for liberals to hate.

    Here's a typical Taylor Swift song.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdneKLhsWOQ

    The handsome guy in the above song is Scott Eastwood, son of Clint Eastwood.

    That video was criticized for romanticizing colonialism iirc.

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  66. snorlax says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    Taylor Swift isn't "aggressively white." She's just a pop star who stays out of politics.

    Kid Rock is very aggressive about White American male masculinity. Here's one of his songs. It's the sort of song that Trump supporters instinctively like.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt84J7U75e0

    Bonnie Taylor's songs express traditional White American male masculinity and White American female femininity.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWcASV2sey0

    This famous Tammy Wynette song strongly expresses and glorifies traditional Southern white femininity.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwBirf4BWew

    In general, country and rock attract the most "aggresively white" musicians. Not pop music and definitely not rap.

    Here's a song by white rapper Eminem. He's aggressively masculine, but somewhat defensiveness about his whiteness. In this song, he's trying to display that despite being white, he can still fit in the world of hypermasculine black rappers.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Yhyp-_hX2s

    Here's a song by Indie rock group Young the Giant. Vaguely masculine, but in an apologetic and sedate way. You won't be surprised to find out that these guys supported Bernie Sanders.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p11XD7Zhw4U

    Hillary Clinton claimed she loved the music of Demi Lovato, who did a lot of campaigning with Hillary. In this song, Lovato expresses her ball busting femininity

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwLRQn61oUY

    You won't be too surprised to find out that Michelle Obama is a huge fan of Beyonce.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyYnnUcgeMc

    Music is an expression of who people are and the subculture they represent.

    Bonnie Tyler is Welsh.

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    Yeah, but a lot of her music was geared towards Americans.

    Like her album "Notes from America."
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  67. @syonredux

    She’d be an odd person for liberals to hate.
     
    Black women are the ones driving the anti-Taylor Swift hate

    Exactly. Their jealousy is palpable. You don’t see black men writing these articles. I wonder why.

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    Exactly. Their jealousy is palpable. You don’t see black men writing these articles. I wonder why.
     
    The male analogue of Taylor Swift is probably Tom Brady, who got similar treatment for his casual friendship with Trump and the MAGA hat in his locker. I think Randy Moss took some parting shots at Brady for his golden boy persona.
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  68. Ed says:
    @syonredux
    In case anyone was wondering, yes, Alanna Bennett, the author of the piece, is Black(ish)



    https://lovelace-media.imgix.net/uploads/76/037b4e40-8325-0132-1d9a-0a2c89e5f2f5.png

    I feel like many of these black writers are just running out of things to write about that’s race related. I look at her and can easily tell she grew up quite comfortable far away from the hood.

    She can’t write about ghetto blacks so she writes about things she knows, suburban white stuff like Taylor Swift.

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  69. black sea says:

    Swift’s relative silence on politics may have worked for the majority of her career so far. But by the time the 1989 era came to a close, a lot of Swift’s standby strategies had already proven themselves outdated. And as a sizable portion of the US entered panic mode politically, the perceived stakes of anyone’s silence seemed to grow exponentially…

    Wow, where to begin?

    What is “the 1989 era”? 1989 is a single year; an era is a period of history marked by certain distinguishing characteristics. Does she mean the era of the 1980s? Maybe, but if so, what are the particular qualities of the 1980s that she is connecting to Taylor Swift’s standby strategies?

    After a bit of Googling, I discovered that Swift was born in 1989, so I guess the writer is referencing the era up to the point of Swift’s birth. She says that these standby strategies had proven to be outdated by the end of this era (i.e. the year of Swift’s birth), and yet, in the previous sentence, she says that Swift’s “relative silence on politics,” — presumably, one of her standby strategies — pretty much worked for the “majority of her career.” Chronologically, this makes no sense.

    Finally, at the end of this era of 1989, “a sizable portion of the US entered panic mode politically.”

    So I guess this occurred during the early 1990s. This panic mode revolved around what? The world is never what we would want it to be, so there are always issues to feel aggrieved about, but I don’t remember the early 90s as a period of “panic mode.” Quite the opposite.

    I don’t think this young lady has any coherent argument to make. She just doesn’t like Taylor Swift because, well, because she’s Taylor Swift.

    BTW, graduate of Oberlin College, same as Lena Dunham.

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    The "1989 era" in this context refers to the time between the release of Swift's 1989 album and the next one.
    , @keuril
    Re Taylor Swift's 1989 era, there’s this thing called Wikipedia, bro.
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  70. @syonredux

    She’d be an odd person for liberals to hate.
     
    Black women are the ones driving the anti-Taylor Swift hate

    Yep. Also, not liberal.

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  71. Thomas says:
    @syonredux
    In case anyone was wondering, yes, Alanna Bennett, the author of the piece, is Black(ish)



    https://lovelace-media.imgix.net/uploads/76/037b4e40-8325-0132-1d9a-0a2c89e5f2f5.png

    Yeah I googled her too. More hate for Becky-With-the-Good-Hair. It’s pretty funny though that any female journalist thinks she’s going to out-Alpha Bitch the singer behind “Shake It Off.”

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  72. wren says:

    She’s in trouble with the feminists, too.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2017/11/09/feminist-attacks-on-taylor-swift-reveal-something-very-ugly-about-the-movement/?tid=pm_opinions_pop

    Kadeen Griffiths listed Swift’s many faults: not criticizing President Trump, not “publicly support[ing] organizations” like Planned Parenthood and not attending the Women’s March (her tweet apparently wasn’t enough.) Outlet after outlet has pressured Swift to condemn the president in the name of feminism. In January, the Daily Beast went so far as to accuse her of “Spineless Feminism.” Swift may be the highest-paid artist in the world, but her decision to speak out on issues as she pleases rather than as others call on her to means she gets little credit for the space she’s made for female artists.

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    “Spineless Feminism”
     
    That's practically an accusation out of the Stalinist purges.

    Gulag, comrade. For being a shameless reactionary who does as she pleases and does neither self-criticize nor join the tweeting chorus!

    (Come on Taylor, make a video about Jehanne, daughter of Darc, throwing stuff out of France already)
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  73. syonredux says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    Swift's songs seem mostly marketed at young girls. Especially girls who have crushes on guys that are out of their league. She's not someone trying to make any political statements. She'd be an odd person for liberals to hate.

    Here's a typical Taylor Swift song.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdneKLhsWOQ

    The handsome guy in the above song is Scott Eastwood, son of Clint Eastwood.

    More Black anti-Taylor Swiftness:

    Before we begin, we should first acknowledge that all Beckies are the same. Maybe one day in the near future we will have a complete listing of the different kinds of Beckies, but for today, you should just know that according to the National Academy of White Women Arts and Sciences, Taylor Swift is rated as a Class C Becky, which is a midlevel ranking that corresponds to her milquetoast, passive-aggressive whiteness.

    But for all her alabaster averageness, Swift sits in the Beckydom somewhere between Megyn Kelly and the white woman at your job who secretly complained to HR when you wore a Black Lives Matter T-shirt on casual Friday.

    On Thursday, Taylor Swift released the first single from her expected-to-be-a-hit album Reputation. Although no one has heard it, it is expected to be another compilation of angst-filled songs calling out her ex-boyfriends, and tunes waxing rhapsodic about how hard it is for a young, blond, millionaire white woman to get ahead in the world.

    Here’s the problem: The album will be released on Nov. 10, which is (probably not) coincidentally 10 years after of the death of nemesis Kanye West’s mother, Donda, to the exact day.

    http://thegrapevine.theroot.com/taylor-swift-is-releasing-her-album-on-the-10th-anniver-1798429589

    Public figures are—both fairly and unfairly—scrutinized more because of the influence they hold. Swift has been highly criticized for using feminism as a marketing tool, staying mostly silent during the election, and manipulating the press through victimhood. In the case with Kanye, it felt especially sinister how the entire situation fit into the mold of “scary black man bullies white girl.” (I reommend this Buzzfeed article, which is a detailed, and in-depth dive into how Swift’s career has often played on the projection of victimhood.)

    https://www.themarysue.com/taylor-swift-look-what-you-made-me-do/

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    I'm pretty sure I've posted on this before, as Anonymous...
    ...but have we ever established if "Becky" comes from "Baby Got Back" by Sir Mix-A-Lot?

    I'm quite serious. I find this sort of thing fascinating.

    (Most linguistics is fascinating.)

    , @jim jones
    "Reputation" is on the Pirate Bay, I burnt a CD for one of my neighbours the other day
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  74. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @black sea

    Swift’s relative silence on politics may have worked for the majority of her career so far. But by the time the 1989 era came to a close, a lot of Swift’s standby strategies had already proven themselves outdated. And as a sizable portion of the US entered panic mode politically, the perceived stakes of anyone’s silence seemed to grow exponentially…
     
    Wow, where to begin?

    What is "the 1989 era"? 1989 is a single year; an era is a period of history marked by certain distinguishing characteristics. Does she mean the era of the 1980s? Maybe, but if so, what are the particular qualities of the 1980s that she is connecting to Taylor Swift's standby strategies?

    After a bit of Googling, I discovered that Swift was born in 1989, so I guess the writer is referencing the era up to the point of Swift's birth. She says that these standby strategies had proven to be outdated by the end of this era (i.e. the year of Swift's birth), and yet, in the previous sentence, she says that Swift's “relative silence on politics," -- presumably, one of her standby strategies -- pretty much worked for the "majority of her career." Chronologically, this makes no sense.

    Finally, at the end of this era of 1989, "a sizable portion of the US entered panic mode politically."

    So I guess this occurred during the early 1990s. This panic mode revolved around what? The world is never what we would want it to be, so there are always issues to feel aggrieved about, but I don't remember the early 90s as a period of "panic mode." Quite the opposite.

    I don’t think this young lady has any coherent argument to make. She just doesn’t like Taylor Swift because, well, because she’s Taylor Swift.

    BTW, graduate of Oberlin College, same as Lena Dunham.

    The “1989 era” in this context refers to the time between the release of Swift’s 1989 album and the next one.

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    How little I know of the contemporary moment, and I guess, how little I want to know . . . but thanks for the explanation.
    , @Autochthon
    Could be. It'd also be a reason for this ostensibly professional writer to have learned in grammar school like the rest of us that the title of a novel, album, play, or similar lengthly work should be italicised, hence Taylor Swift's 1989 is easily distinguishable from a reference to the year she was born. The titles of shorter works, like most poems, songs, and articles are placed in quotation marks. These rules don't exist to annoy or confuse stupid people like this Negress (mulattto?); they actually facilitate clear communication, and they decrease confusion; yet there is no helping people as stupid as her....
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  75. Thomas says:

    Of course, Taylor Swift’s original sin of aggressive whiteness was upstaging Beyonce at the 2009 VMAs and forcing Kanye West to interrupt her to defend Queen Bey’s honor.

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    • Replies: @Laugh Track

    Of course, Taylor Swift’s original sin of aggressive whiteness was upstaging Beyonce at the 2009 VMAs and forcing Kanye West to interrupt her to defend Queen Bey’s honor.
     
    Honestly, who really gives a f**k about this stuff. This is on the level of Kardashian reality show BS. If this is defining our political culture and issues, we are totally doomed.
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  76. syonredux says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    Swift's songs seem mostly marketed at young girls. Especially girls who have crushes on guys that are out of their league. She's not someone trying to make any political statements. She'd be an odd person for liberals to hate.

    Here's a typical Taylor Swift song.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdneKLhsWOQ

    The handsome guy in the above song is Scott Eastwood, son of Clint Eastwood.

    Still more Black anti-Taylor Swiftness:

    The image of a hulking black man terrorizing a young, innocent, Southern white girl is hardly new in American pop culture. The 1915 movie The Birth of a Nation, the D.W. Griffith silent film about the rise of the KKK in the Reconstruction-era South (commonly known as the first true blockbuster) captured that fear and capitalized on it. Mae Marsh’s character was willing to throw herself over a cliff rather than let the villainous black man — played by white actor Walter Long in blackface — get his hands on her; for better or worse, it’s an iconic Hollywood moment.

    Americans have been conditioned to see black men as threatening for generations, and the consequences of this conditioning range from a pop starlet being able to paint a rapper as a villain for nearly a decade because she feels “bullied” to police officers shooting unarmed men in front of convenience stores because they felt “unsafe.” Obviously Kanye’s feud with Taylor is far less serious than any death by police shooting, but these cultural moments represent two ends of the same spectrum, a spectrum of systemic racism playing out in America.

    His VMAs stunt wasn’t nice, no, but it also happened in 2009 and didn’t really do any harm to Taylor (on the contrary, it wildly helped her career). But just as we’re conditioned to see black men as threatening, we’ve also been conditioned to respond immediately to the tears and emotions of a white woman. (The defense of a white woman’s virtue was once cause for literal lynchings.)

    Whether Taylor knows it or not (and I suspect she knows it), if Kim hadn’t released those Snapchats, there’s a large portion of America that simply would have continued to take her word over Kanye’s and believed that he was harassing her in the media out of spite. We’re a country structurally set up to protect whiteness over blackness, and at least one reason 2016 has been the dumpster fire that it has been is because of the way America sees black men — and black people — in general. Blackness is threatening, even if the worst thing it’s done to you is jump into your spotlight on a Grammys stage or try to sell you some loose cigarettes on the street. While Kim exposing Taylor isn’t going to solve racism in America, she’s not distracting from the narrative or “real issues” at all. She managed to say, “Keep my man’s name out ya mouth,” and highlight our country’s macro social problems on a micro scale.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/get-out/?highlight=taylor+swift#comment-1783714

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    Her writing is pretty bad. She uses terms like "conversation" a lot. "White supremacy" and "misogyny" appear as well. It's sad she writes something as dumb as,"Americans have been conditioned to see black men as threatening."
    An Obama fan,for sure,as she lives his philosophy: Make money from Whitey without working hard,speak truth to power regarding the shtruggle,and keep the hell away from blacks!
    , @JohnnyWalker123
    What's truly sad here isn't her views. What's sad is how inane her arguments are.

    American public discourse is geared towards the lowest common denominator.

    Reminds me of this "debate."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmO-ziHU_D8
    , @Lurker

    Americans have been conditioned to see black men as threatening for generations
     
    And evil YT accomplishes this by always portraying black men in fiction as wise, dignified moral people who rarely commit crime and certainly not rape or murder or anything.

    Which shows just how clever and devious they are.
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  77. @snorlax
    Bonnie Tyler is Welsh.

    Yeah, but a lot of her music was geared towards Americans.

    Like her album “Notes from America.”

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  78. Mr. Anon says:

    Uncanny. Just from reading that excerpt, I instantly surmised that Taylor Swift is much, much prettier than Alanna Bennett.

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  79. Ironsides says:
    @syonredux
    In case anyone was wondering, yes, Alanna Bennett, the author of the piece, is Black(ish)



    https://lovelace-media.imgix.net/uploads/76/037b4e40-8325-0132-1d9a-0a2c89e5f2f5.png

    She’s the color of a Simpsons character. I’m offended by the fact that she’s aggressively yellow.

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  80. anon says: • Disclaimer

    the US, Swift’s battle with Kardashian faded…

    Naturally, it makes no sense to me. Here is People Magazine’s take on it:

    http://people.com/celebrity/social-media-reacts-to-kim-kardashian-west-taylor-swift-drama/

    The only thing that I knew about it was that it was openly recognized by urban creative types that a feud with an A lister on Twitter was priceless.

    As far as color? Kardashian is an honorary POC, what with her husband and her booty. I consider her generic ‘ethnic’ and an alpha at exploiting her racial/ethnic fluidity. I’m surprised that Black Women aren’t more angry given the number of alpha Black Males that clan has captured.

    And Selena Gomez …. A legit POC …. sided with Taylor.

    The timing of this may have led Trump to up his Twitter feuding game.

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    And Selena Gomez …. A legit POC …. sided with Taylor.
     
    Wow, I wouldn't have predicted that. Her stock just went up a few points. "Honorary Aryan" status is hers for the taking, lol.
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  81. fish says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    Or maybe she's just a pop singer.

    They hate her because she's damn near perfect, as if she was built fifty years in the future by Japan's best fembot designers.

    And I don't even know a single one of her songs.

    Here's why they hate whiteness:

    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/f6/6b/b9/f66bb947e05f7a17bf7936bf41a344a2.jpg

    ….as if she was built fifty years in the future by Japan’s best fembot designers.

    Has been described as the worlds first supermodel with legitimate musical talent!

    That plus business acumen!

    Let’s us all bow before the hot super being/overlord!

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  82. Boethiuss says:

    Taylor Swift is a Whiskey-type theory of femininity come to life. She gets a lot of mileage from a string of relationships, because the associated drama fuels the imaginations of her younger white female fan base and the relationships that they are in or would like to be in.

    But, the upshot is that she doesn’t have a husband or recognizable male protector figure, so she is a target for Kanye West, Nicki Minaj, and whoever else who wants to carry the culture wars into the niche of pop stardom.

    She succeeds or fails in these terms based on how well she can navigate those cultural currents. And frankly she’s done pretty well so far.

    I don’t have much use for her, her tunes aren’t even catchy for me. In the bigger picture though, the alt-right types who want to make her some kind of icon are barking up the wrong tree. Ok, black women aren’t going to like her because she’ll take some black male attention away from them. But anyone who wants to protect the future for white children to grow up in is not going to be getting any help from Taylor Swift.

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    You Belong With Me is pretty catchy. Try that one. It's the only one I know.
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  83. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @syonredux
    More Black anti-Taylor Swiftness:

    Before we begin, we should first acknowledge that all Beckies are the same. Maybe one day in the near future we will have a complete listing of the different kinds of Beckies, but for today, you should just know that according to the National Academy of White Women Arts and Sciences, Taylor Swift is rated as a Class C Becky, which is a midlevel ranking that corresponds to her milquetoast, passive-aggressive whiteness.
     

    But for all her alabaster averageness, Swift sits in the Beckydom somewhere between Megyn Kelly and the white woman at your job who secretly complained to HR when you wore a Black Lives Matter T-shirt on casual Friday.

    On Thursday, Taylor Swift released the first single from her expected-to-be-a-hit album Reputation. Although no one has heard it, it is expected to be another compilation of angst-filled songs calling out her ex-boyfriends, and tunes waxing rhapsodic about how hard it is for a young, blond, millionaire white woman to get ahead in the world.

    Here’s the problem: The album will be released on Nov. 10, which is (probably not) coincidentally 10 years after of the death of nemesis Kanye West’s mother, Donda, to the exact day.
     
    http://thegrapevine.theroot.com/taylor-swift-is-releasing-her-album-on-the-10th-anniver-1798429589

    Public figures are—both fairly and unfairly—scrutinized more because of the influence they hold. Swift has been highly criticized for using feminism as a marketing tool, staying mostly silent during the election, and manipulating the press through victimhood. In the case with Kanye, it felt especially sinister how the entire situation fit into the mold of “scary black man bullies white girl.” (I reommend this Buzzfeed article, which is a detailed, and in-depth dive into how Swift’s career has often played on the projection of victimhood.)
     
    https://www.themarysue.com/taylor-swift-look-what-you-made-me-do/

    I’m pretty sure I’ve posted on this before, as Anonymous…
    …but have we ever established if “Becky” comes from “Baby Got Back” by Sir Mix-A-Lot?

    I’m quite serious. I find this sort of thing fascinating.

    (Most linguistics is fascinating.)

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    Yes.

    “Becky” comes from “Baby Got Back” by Sir Mix-A-Lot.

    That is a cold, hard fact. Two plus two equals four, it's hard to whistle with crackers in your mouth, and “Becky” comes from “Baby Got Back” by Sir Mix-A-Lot.

    Class dismissed.
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  84. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @JohnnyWalker123
    Taylor Swift isn't "aggressively white." She's just a pop star who stays out of politics.

    Kid Rock is very aggressive about White American male masculinity. Here's one of his songs. It's the sort of song that Trump supporters instinctively like.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt84J7U75e0

    Bonnie Taylor's songs express traditional White American male masculinity and White American female femininity.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWcASV2sey0

    This famous Tammy Wynette song strongly expresses and glorifies traditional Southern white femininity.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwBirf4BWew

    In general, country and rock attract the most "aggresively white" musicians. Not pop music and definitely not rap.

    Here's a song by white rapper Eminem. He's aggressively masculine, but somewhat defensiveness about his whiteness. In this song, he's trying to display that despite being white, he can still fit in the world of hypermasculine black rappers.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Yhyp-_hX2s

    Here's a song by Indie rock group Young the Giant. Vaguely masculine, but in an apologetic and sedate way. You won't be surprised to find out that these guys supported Bernie Sanders.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p11XD7Zhw4U

    Hillary Clinton claimed she loved the music of Demi Lovato, who did a lot of campaigning with Hillary. In this song, Lovato expresses her ball busting femininity

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwLRQn61oUY

    You won't be too surprised to find out that Michelle Obama is a huge fan of Beyonce.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyYnnUcgeMc

    Music is an expression of who people are and the subculture they represent.

    If we’re having a “conversation” about Eminem and white girls (yeah, I’m trying to be provacative, but I’m serious and I find this interesting too…):

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  85. This shouldn’t be surprising from an industry that treats over the top Beyonce worship as a caste marker for how “woke” you are.

    Unsurprisingly, the author is a mystery meat who is obviously super pissed she will never have high cheekbones or natural long blonde hair.

    Taylor Swift is the Min Mei of the AR.

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    Really? Is her singing that bad?
    , @El Dato

    Taylor Swift is the Min Mei of the AR.
     
    Is it bad that I got this reference. (How old am I ... of fuuu---)

    In Macross (and Robotech), Minmay is the love interest of the main character Hikaru Ichijyo (Rick Hunter in Robotech) and becomes an idol singer and film star on board the spacecraft SDF-1 Macross. Her songs, which cause confusion amongst alien Zentradi soldiers, play a critical role in Space War I against Boddole Zer's Zentradi fleet. ... In the Macross world, Minmay continues to be remembered decades after Space War I. Her songs are constantly cherished and she will always be known as the girl who ended a war by singing. In every Macross sequel (even the non-canon Macross II OVA and movie), Minmay is referred to either indirectly (through references of her songs) or explicitly.
     
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  86. black sea says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    The "1989 era" in this context refers to the time between the release of Swift's 1989 album and the next one.

    How little I know of the contemporary moment, and I guess, how little I want to know . . . but thanks for the explanation.

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  87. Bill B. says:
    @syonredux
    In case anyone was wondering, yes, Alanna Bennett, the author of the piece, is Black(ish)



    https://lovelace-media.imgix.net/uploads/76/037b4e40-8325-0132-1d9a-0a2c89e5f2f5.png

    An alcoholic is someone who drinks more than his doctor.

    An aggressively white person is someone a shade lighter than Ms Bennett.

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  88. @Arclight
    I always find this idea that the 'silence' of various public figures carries any weight at all hilarious, given the total lack of effect various celebrity statements or solemn videos in favor of Obama or against Trump had on the election results.

    Now the silence of various people in the entertainment industry probably did have real world effects on the number of women who were harassed or assaulted by powerful progressives, but let's not dwell on that.

    I missed this one by not keeping up for a couple of days. The Guardian filled me in: speaking out against Trump is now necessary to be a respectable celebrity. Silence won’t do:

    From spats over white privilege to her failure to speak out against Trump, the singer’s position as peerless pop princess has been seriously damaged in recent years.

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  89. @Thomas
    Of course, Taylor Swift’s original sin of aggressive whiteness was upstaging Beyonce at the 2009 VMAs and forcing Kanye West to interrupt her to defend Queen Bey’s honor.

    Of course, Taylor Swift’s original sin of aggressive whiteness was upstaging Beyonce at the 2009 VMAs and forcing Kanye West to interrupt her to defend Queen Bey’s honor.

    Honestly, who really gives a f**k about this stuff. This is on the level of Kardashian reality show BS. If this is defining our political culture and issues, we are totally doomed.

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  90. @JohnnyWalker123
    Swift's songs seem mostly marketed at young girls. Especially girls who have crushes on guys that are out of their league. She's not someone trying to make any political statements. She'd be an odd person for liberals to hate.

    Here's a typical Taylor Swift song.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdneKLhsWOQ

    The handsome guy in the above song is Scott Eastwood, son of Clint Eastwood.

    BTW, she was accused of cultural appropriation and hyping colonialism (set in Africa) for that one.

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  91. rogue-one says:

    What about being aggressively black? I mean really aggressive. Like shooting people up. But I guess I am not supposed to notice.

    It’s not okay to be white but it’s great to be black.

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  92. I had no idea who Taylor Swift was until I saw her in a promo for Black Rifle Coffee. Boy is she beautiful. If left-wing journalists are harassing her, she must be doing something right.

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    I had no idea who Taylor Swift was until I saw her in a promo for Black Rifle Coffee. Boy is she beautiful.
     
    While she is not my ideal (that would be Marilyn Monroe in the pool scenes for her last, unfinished movie, maybe with just a little more boobage) Taylor is an elegant and very attractive woman and obviously not stupid either. Assuming she has birthworthy bone structure I hope she has three or four kids before she is too old and eggrot sets in.
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  93. @Not Raul
    Can someone tell me how someone who is white can avoid being "aggressively white"? I'm asking for a friend.

    imitate Blacks and try to be good at what they are good at, but than fail, because they are superior. So e.g. as a female twerking without the required anatomical features, as a male rapping etc.

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    Her "Shake it Off" video got a lot of SJW fainting cause a scene had her done up as a hood rat with a twerking crew. She was unable to twerk and didn't get after an attempt, but the usual suspects went insane.
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  94. @syonredux
    Still more Black anti-Taylor Swiftness:

    The image of a hulking black man terrorizing a young, innocent, Southern white girl is hardly new in American pop culture. The 1915 movie The Birth of a Nation, the D.W. Griffith silent film about the rise of the KKK in the Reconstruction-era South (commonly known as the first true blockbuster) captured that fear and capitalized on it. Mae Marsh’s character was willing to throw herself over a cliff rather than let the villainous black man — played by white actor Walter Long in blackface — get his hands on her; for better or worse, it’s an iconic Hollywood moment.
     

    Americans have been conditioned to see black men as threatening for generations, and the consequences of this conditioning range from a pop starlet being able to paint a rapper as a villain for nearly a decade because she feels “bullied” to police officers shooting unarmed men in front of convenience stores because they felt “unsafe.” Obviously Kanye’s feud with Taylor is far less serious than any death by police shooting, but these cultural moments represent two ends of the same spectrum, a spectrum of systemic racism playing out in America.
     

    His VMAs stunt wasn’t nice, no, but it also happened in 2009 and didn’t really do any harm to Taylor (on the contrary, it wildly helped her career). But just as we’re conditioned to see black men as threatening, we’ve also been conditioned to respond immediately to the tears and emotions of a white woman. (The defense of a white woman’s virtue was once cause for literal lynchings.)

    Whether Taylor knows it or not (and I suspect she knows it), if Kim hadn’t released those Snapchats, there’s a large portion of America that simply would have continued to take her word over Kanye’s and believed that he was harassing her in the media out of spite. We’re a country structurally set up to protect whiteness over blackness, and at least one reason 2016 has been the dumpster fire that it has been is because of the way America sees black men — and black people — in general. Blackness is threatening, even if the worst thing it’s done to you is jump into your spotlight on a Grammys stage or try to sell you some loose cigarettes on the street. While Kim exposing Taylor isn’t going to solve racism in America, she’s not distracting from the narrative or “real issues” at all. She managed to say, “Keep my man’s name out ya mouth,” and highlight our country’s macro social problems on a micro scale.

     
    http://www.unz.com/isteve/get-out/?highlight=taylor+swift#comment-1783714

    Her writing is pretty bad. She uses terms like “conversation” a lot. “White supremacy” and “misogyny” appear as well. It’s sad she writes something as dumb as,”Americans have been conditioned to see black men as threatening.”
    An Obama fan,for sure,as she lives his philosophy: Make money from Whitey without working hard,speak truth to power regarding the shtruggle,and keep the hell away from blacks!

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  95. Zaulth says:

    Swift definately needs more “white camouflage” like whites use to fit into increasingly vibrant places like here in the East Bay. Tattoo sleeves, disfiguring piercings, shaved or otherwise scourged hair, excessive weight or thinness and plenty of yoga pants/ugly dirty clothes.. Whatever it takes to help blend in on the sidewalk amongst the post apocalyptic skuzz. The last thing you want to be is an unironic white person.

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  96. @Anonymous
    I think that one thing that eludes many is that - if I'm not mistaken - most top level female pop stars are significantly more intelligent than the typical person. This might not be their image, but that is because they are smart enough to not make it their image. They are probably significantly more intelligent than most of the people who comment on them.

    This seems to be true no matter what their expressed "political" or "social" views are. That isn't what they are thinking about. They are thinking about music and image and certain aspects of culture. Often dance and fashion.

    Taylor Swift strikes me as intelligent enough to know that anything she says on political matters will come back to harm her. She is very good at doing what she is actually good at and wants to focus on that, and that requires intellectual focus.

    Even very SJWish stars like Miley Cyrus and Lada Gaga refrain from overtly ideological stuff. Both of them strike me as rather intelligent, but even though they push SJW themes through imagery, they seem to refrain from trying to make "pronouncements". By contrast, Katy Perry seems slightly below their level, and seems to have been captured by politics. She went all in for Hillary, and probably won't recover. By contrast, Lady Gaga did the last Super Bowl, and I thought she was great - it will probably be the greatest Super Bowl ever, as the NFL will likely collapse.

    Lady Gaga was in some old tracking study of intelligent children, or something like that. Not the most elite one, but nothing to sneeze at. And she’s a really good singer as she showed at some Academy Awards show when she did a Julie Andrews tribute singing Julie Andrews old songs about as well as Julie Andrews would have at that age.

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    One thing Katy Perry and Taylor Swift and Lady Gaga have in common is that they're all songwriters, and wrote songs before they became famous. Of the three, Swift must be the most prolific songwriter, and probably the post talented one, while Gaga is the best singer, by far.

    Swift and Gaga also seem to have handled fame pretty well.
    , @res
    Top 1% per this: https://www.nature.com/news/how-to-raise-a-genius-lessons-from-a-45-year-study-of-super-smart-children-1.20537
    Steve, you have an amazing memory and ability to make connections.
    , @Jack Hanson
    Gaga was classically trained at Julliard, so she definitely gets how music works and is formed.

    I think she got seriously side tracked when she became a gay icon and let that get to her head, putting out some real turds "with a message" versus her first record which was fun pop stuff.
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  97. jim jones says:
    @syonredux
    More Black anti-Taylor Swiftness:

    Before we begin, we should first acknowledge that all Beckies are the same. Maybe one day in the near future we will have a complete listing of the different kinds of Beckies, but for today, you should just know that according to the National Academy of White Women Arts and Sciences, Taylor Swift is rated as a Class C Becky, which is a midlevel ranking that corresponds to her milquetoast, passive-aggressive whiteness.
     

    But for all her alabaster averageness, Swift sits in the Beckydom somewhere between Megyn Kelly and the white woman at your job who secretly complained to HR when you wore a Black Lives Matter T-shirt on casual Friday.

    On Thursday, Taylor Swift released the first single from her expected-to-be-a-hit album Reputation. Although no one has heard it, it is expected to be another compilation of angst-filled songs calling out her ex-boyfriends, and tunes waxing rhapsodic about how hard it is for a young, blond, millionaire white woman to get ahead in the world.

    Here’s the problem: The album will be released on Nov. 10, which is (probably not) coincidentally 10 years after of the death of nemesis Kanye West’s mother, Donda, to the exact day.
     
    http://thegrapevine.theroot.com/taylor-swift-is-releasing-her-album-on-the-10th-anniver-1798429589

    Public figures are—both fairly and unfairly—scrutinized more because of the influence they hold. Swift has been highly criticized for using feminism as a marketing tool, staying mostly silent during the election, and manipulating the press through victimhood. In the case with Kanye, it felt especially sinister how the entire situation fit into the mold of “scary black man bullies white girl.” (I reommend this Buzzfeed article, which is a detailed, and in-depth dive into how Swift’s career has often played on the projection of victimhood.)
     
    https://www.themarysue.com/taylor-swift-look-what-you-made-me-do/

    “Reputation” is on the Pirate Bay, I burnt a CD for one of my neighbours the other day

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  98. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Not Raul
    Can someone tell me how someone who is white can avoid being "aggressively white"? I'm asking for a friend.

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  99. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Blackness is threatening, even if the worst thing it’s done to you is jump into your spotlight on a Grammys stage or try to sell you some loose cigarettes on the street.

    Yep. That’s the worst thing ‘blackness’ has ever done. Got it.

    Care to guess how many victims of violent black crime there are right now in America? I bet you can’t even get the order of magnitude.

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  100. You know who is “aggressively white”?

    Sylvester Stallone.

    In the Rocky movies (which Stallone directed and starred in), Rocky Balboa boxes with Clubber Lang, Apollo Creed, and Mason Dixon. Half the boxers he fights are black, 1 is Russian (Ivan Drago), and 2 are American Whites (Tommy Gunn and Hulk Hogan).

    Given the movies were mostly made in the 70s/80s time period, there’s a subtle racial subtext to all of this. The Philadelphia-based “Italian stallion” (Rocky’s informal name) knocks out a bunch of blacks and even a Russian. It’s sort of glorifying the white masculinity of east coast ethnics. Rocky’s trainer is a scrappy Jewish-American guy named Micky Goldmill.

    I wonder how Stallone got away with making these movies. I suppose maybe because they were made back in a less politically correct time. These days you wouldn’t see many major directors creating a movie franchise around a white male who knocks out lots of black/foreign boxers.

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    My guess would be that a certain number of black people appreciated that they weren't being pandered to as obviously as they are nowadays. Yes, many enjoy the pandering, but there are some self-respecting people (of any stripe) upon whom it chafes.
    , @El Dato
    Well, Rocky IV (1986: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089927/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) was basically a Reagan-era anti-Soviet message and "Raaaah! America!" movie, wasn't it? Who could object?

    As for a show about beating a black guy during a match, I don't think that was very controversial. There was no PC police. There was no twitter or even Internet (maybe UUCP and some Bulletin Board Systems), just the papers and a bit of TV, so no way to get loud discontentment to the masses quickly and amplify it with feedback. And black radicals were regarded as, well, crazed radicals, not mainstream.
    , @Forbes

    I wonder how Stallone got away with making these movies.
     
    Stallone got Rocky (1976) green lighted for bringing in a $1 million budget. It did $225 million at the box office.

    Given the movies were mostly made in the 70s/80s time period, there’s a subtle racial subtext to all of this.
     
    Actually not. That's 2017 revisionism. If you go looking for racial subtext, you're gonna find racial subtext.

    While denied by Stallone, Rocky is assumed to be inspired by the 1975 Chuck Wepner v Muhammad Ali fight, where Wepner went 15 rounds with Ali. Other influences for the storyline are surmised. Wepner won an undisclosed lawsuit settlement from Stallone.
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  101. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Steve Sailer
    Lady Gaga was in some old tracking study of intelligent children, or something like that. Not the most elite one, but nothing to sneeze at. And she's a really good singer as she showed at some Academy Awards show when she did a Julie Andrews tribute singing Julie Andrews old songs about as well as Julie Andrews would have at that age.

    One thing Katy Perry and Taylor Swift and Lady Gaga have in common is that they’re all songwriters, and wrote songs before they became famous. Of the three, Swift must be the most prolific songwriter, and probably the post talented one, while Gaga is the best singer, by far.

    Swift and Gaga also seem to have handled fame pretty well.

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  102. @syonredux
    Still more Black anti-Taylor Swiftness:

    The image of a hulking black man terrorizing a young, innocent, Southern white girl is hardly new in American pop culture. The 1915 movie The Birth of a Nation, the D.W. Griffith silent film about the rise of the KKK in the Reconstruction-era South (commonly known as the first true blockbuster) captured that fear and capitalized on it. Mae Marsh’s character was willing to throw herself over a cliff rather than let the villainous black man — played by white actor Walter Long in blackface — get his hands on her; for better or worse, it’s an iconic Hollywood moment.
     

    Americans have been conditioned to see black men as threatening for generations, and the consequences of this conditioning range from a pop starlet being able to paint a rapper as a villain for nearly a decade because she feels “bullied” to police officers shooting unarmed men in front of convenience stores because they felt “unsafe.” Obviously Kanye’s feud with Taylor is far less serious than any death by police shooting, but these cultural moments represent two ends of the same spectrum, a spectrum of systemic racism playing out in America.
     

    His VMAs stunt wasn’t nice, no, but it also happened in 2009 and didn’t really do any harm to Taylor (on the contrary, it wildly helped her career). But just as we’re conditioned to see black men as threatening, we’ve also been conditioned to respond immediately to the tears and emotions of a white woman. (The defense of a white woman’s virtue was once cause for literal lynchings.)

    Whether Taylor knows it or not (and I suspect she knows it), if Kim hadn’t released those Snapchats, there’s a large portion of America that simply would have continued to take her word over Kanye’s and believed that he was harassing her in the media out of spite. We’re a country structurally set up to protect whiteness over blackness, and at least one reason 2016 has been the dumpster fire that it has been is because of the way America sees black men — and black people — in general. Blackness is threatening, even if the worst thing it’s done to you is jump into your spotlight on a Grammys stage or try to sell you some loose cigarettes on the street. While Kim exposing Taylor isn’t going to solve racism in America, she’s not distracting from the narrative or “real issues” at all. She managed to say, “Keep my man’s name out ya mouth,” and highlight our country’s macro social problems on a micro scale.

     
    http://www.unz.com/isteve/get-out/?highlight=taylor+swift#comment-1783714

    What’s truly sad here isn’t her views. What’s sad is how inane her arguments are.

    American public discourse is geared towards the lowest common denominator.

    Reminds me of this “debate.”

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  103. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Anonymous
    Nominally or purportedly a country artist, Taylor's most recent styling phase was (up until last month or so) reminiscent of something between Pat Benatar and Debbie Harry. With maybe a little Dusty Springfield thrown in. Not a country look.

    And you won't find fiddles, steel guitars or anything else very country sounding on her records as far as I can tell.

    You do understand that she writes and performs songs in more than one genre, right? Swift just won song of the year at the CMA awards, for a country song she wrote.

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  104. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Clyde
    From what little I have heard of her music, I don't like it. It's for a younger generation. Taylor Swift has found her niche and is making millions by exploiting it. There is a demand for whiter than white female singers who don't hang with the brothers and don't collaborate with them for absurd rap videos etc. TS didn't figure this out all by herself. She listened to some sound advice.
    So even if she likes rap and wanted to do something with Jay Zee, she won't. In order to maintain her image and keep the money rolling in. One look at her, she has a decent IQ. Just look at her very effective marketing campaign for her latest album. I will bet that she sells more albums as CDs than others. With the higher profits in CDs compared to downloads.
    She has never denounced Donald Trump. Another reason the multiKulti left has it in for Missy Snow White.

    whiter than white female singers who don’t hang with the brothers and don’t collaborate with them for absurd rap videos etc.

    Huh?

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    I... I can't watch this.
    , @Clyde
    That must be the only one. She did it to get the anti-racism crowd off her back, not that it worked.
    , @RonaldB
    Great catch.
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  105. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @JohnnyWalker123
    You know who is "aggressively white"?

    Sylvester Stallone.

    In the Rocky movies (which Stallone directed and starred in), Rocky Balboa boxes with Clubber Lang, Apollo Creed, and Mason Dixon. Half the boxers he fights are black, 1 is Russian (Ivan Drago), and 2 are American Whites (Tommy Gunn and Hulk Hogan).

    Given the movies were mostly made in the 70s/80s time period, there's a subtle racial subtext to all of this. The Philadelphia-based "Italian stallion" (Rocky's informal name) knocks out a bunch of blacks and even a Russian. It's sort of glorifying the white masculinity of east coast ethnics. Rocky's trainer is a scrappy Jewish-American guy named Micky Goldmill.

    I wonder how Stallone got away with making these movies. I suppose maybe because they were made back in a less politically correct time. These days you wouldn't see many major directors creating a movie franchise around a white male who knocks out lots of black/foreign boxers.

    My guess would be that a certain number of black people appreciated that they weren’t being pandered to as obviously as they are nowadays. Yes, many enjoy the pandering, but there are some self-respecting people (of any stripe) upon whom it chafes.

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  106. AndrewR says:

    Taylor Swift is degenerate but Nicki Minaj is far more so. I would respect Swift if she had replied to Minaj’s tweet with: “your Anaconda video was literally pornographic yet you’re trying to act like you’re a victim of discrimination”

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    I would respect Swift if she had replied to Minaj’s tweet with: “your Anaconda video was literally pornographic yet you’re trying to act like you’re a victim of discrimination”
     
    You're trying too hard. There's no contradiction there.
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  107. @Jack Hanson
    This shouldn't be surprising from an industry that treats over the top Beyonce worship as a caste marker for how "woke" you are.

    Unsurprisingly, the author is a mystery meat who is obviously super pissed she will never have high cheekbones or natural long blonde hair.

    Taylor Swift is the Min Mei of the AR.

    Really? Is her singing that bad?

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    She's gonna confuse the hell out of our enemies and serve as a rallying point for us in our giant mecha, duh.
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  108. El Dato says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    You know who is "aggressively white"?

    Sylvester Stallone.

    In the Rocky movies (which Stallone directed and starred in), Rocky Balboa boxes with Clubber Lang, Apollo Creed, and Mason Dixon. Half the boxers he fights are black, 1 is Russian (Ivan Drago), and 2 are American Whites (Tommy Gunn and Hulk Hogan).

    Given the movies were mostly made in the 70s/80s time period, there's a subtle racial subtext to all of this. The Philadelphia-based "Italian stallion" (Rocky's informal name) knocks out a bunch of blacks and even a Russian. It's sort of glorifying the white masculinity of east coast ethnics. Rocky's trainer is a scrappy Jewish-American guy named Micky Goldmill.

    I wonder how Stallone got away with making these movies. I suppose maybe because they were made back in a less politically correct time. These days you wouldn't see many major directors creating a movie franchise around a white male who knocks out lots of black/foreign boxers.

    Well, Rocky IV (1986: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089927/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) was basically a Reagan-era anti-Soviet message and “Raaaah! America!” movie, wasn’t it? Who could object?

    As for a show about beating a black guy during a match, I don’t think that was very controversial. There was no PC police. There was no twitter or even Internet (maybe UUCP and some Bulletin Board Systems), just the papers and a bit of TV, so no way to get loud discontentment to the masses quickly and amplify it with feedback. And black radicals were regarded as, well, crazed radicals, not mainstream.

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  109. AndrewR says:
    @Roger
    Andrew Anglin is a fan of Taylor Swift, and he posts trolling neo-Nazi articles. Is that part of the problem with her?

    She has threatened to sue those who associate her with white supremacy.
    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/taylor-swift-threatens-to-sue-blogger-who-connected-her-to-white-supremacists/

    Pro-white trolling can be fun for its own sake, but it’s also good from an accelerationist perspective: it makes people choose sides and cut to the chase.

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  110. AndrewR says:
    @Anonymous
    Try Wikipedia.

    Basically Taylor Swift is a 27 year old white female who had at 19 a really huge record and has had a bunch more since. She appeals to a preteen to tween to teen (primarily white) female demo primarily.

    She is notorious for dating (and presumably rogering) famous men and then dumping them and writing a song about them. It's considered a rite of passage in certain quarters.

    Taylor is estimated to be worth $240 to $260 million, which is doing all right for a girl by most estimates. Madge is worth about $800 million, but at 27 she wasn't worth very much.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFZvbrCI3oo

    A lot of "serious" female rockers have never been invited to do that.

    I get a very strong Caitlyn Jenner vibe from her

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    She's basically the mould for the white womanhood ideal and you're comparing her to an aged tranny?

    I thought you had hit your peak idiocy with your blackpilling, then you go and justify Sha'ria FGM, and now this.

    Tiny Duck, a challenger has appeared.
    , @Jack D
    This is not surprising because trannies try to model themselves on a feminine ideal and Taylor is (one type of) a feminine ideal. That said, her body type is that of a modern fashion model (skinny) rather than the old fashioned Marilyn Monroe curvy type. As the actual population has gotten fatter and fatter the ideal archetype has gotten skinnier.

    I think Taylor Swift's beauty (and yes she is beautiful by many measures) has really helped her singing career A LOT. If she was fat and ugly she would not have had the success that she has had even if she had the same musical talents.
    , @Anonymous
    http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2017/11/blind-item-4_12.html

    With one tweet, this A+ list singer could put a stop to the homophobic slurs her fans are heaping on this openly gay foreign born A list singer. She won't though. She loves it and won't ever say a word to protect him or stop her fans. If her fans only knew the truth about her.
     
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  111. The difficulty with “Anaconda” is that it is not very musical. In fact, it’s anti-music, a parody of music as such. The most memorable bits of sound from that track are the Sir Mix-A-Lot samples.

    Also, Nicky Minaj sounds like a duck.

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    Nicky Minaj stole much of her routine from Lil Kim anyway. Do an image search.
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  112. AndrewR says:
    @Alec Leamas
    Can the number of people who might think this piece is truly about Swift possibly exceed the number of people who think the piece is all about the octoroon who wrote it and her own internalized hang ups?

    Like “Ta-Nehisi” Coates, this Bennett girl is clearly bitter primarily due to her aesthetically-challenged face, but she sublimates that bitterness into anti-white rhetoric because it’s much more socially acceptable to say “Taylor Swift sucks because she’s aggressively white” than to say “Taylor Swift sucks because she’s much, much better looking than I am”

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  113. AndrewR says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    Taylor Swift isn't "aggressively white." She's just a pop star who stays out of politics.

    Kid Rock is very aggressive about White American male masculinity. Here's one of his songs. It's the sort of song that Trump supporters instinctively like.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt84J7U75e0

    Bonnie Taylor's songs express traditional White American male masculinity and White American female femininity.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWcASV2sey0

    This famous Tammy Wynette song strongly expresses and glorifies traditional Southern white femininity.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwBirf4BWew

    In general, country and rock attract the most "aggresively white" musicians. Not pop music and definitely not rap.

    Here's a song by white rapper Eminem. He's aggressively masculine, but somewhat defensiveness about his whiteness. In this song, he's trying to display that despite being white, he can still fit in the world of hypermasculine black rappers.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Yhyp-_hX2s

    Here's a song by Indie rock group Young the Giant. Vaguely masculine, but in an apologetic and sedate way. You won't be surprised to find out that these guys supported Bernie Sanders.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p11XD7Zhw4U

    Hillary Clinton claimed she loved the music of Demi Lovato, who did a lot of campaigning with Hillary. In this song, Lovato expresses her ball busting femininity

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwLRQn61oUY

    You won't be too surprised to find out that Michelle Obama is a huge fan of Beyonce.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyYnnUcgeMc

    Music is an expression of who people are and the subculture they represent.

    The target audience for that Kid Rock video has got to be people with IQs under 90.

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    Isn't it more like a parody ... Weird Al singing about his Pentiums comes to mind:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpMvS1Q1sos

    (back when having a "T1 line in your house" (1.544 Mbit/s) was the costly sheeeeet)
    , @anonymous
    … people with IQs under 90 … matter too!
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  114. AndrewR says:
    @Moses
    And she went to Oberlin. Say no more.

    My cousin's kid got an athletic scholarship to Oberlin. He transferred after his first year. White jocks are *hated* at Oberlin. He got the hell out of there.

    I’d be interested to hear stories from his experience there

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    Just what I heard second hand from my folks. Don’t have details. It was very unpleasant for him. He’s a good kid. They are a hardworking professional family, backbone of America types.

    His experience at Oberlin pushed him and his parents hard towards embracing a White identity. They’re not shy talking about it at family gatherings when prompted. After all, why wouldn’t they after their son was the object of hatred just for being a White athlete?

    I think this is beginning to happen all across America. It’s the inevitable result of SJW-ism and identity politics. It’s just getting started.

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  115. El Dato says:
    @wren
    She's in trouble with the feminists, too.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2017/11/09/feminist-attacks-on-taylor-swift-reveal-something-very-ugly-about-the-movement/?tid=pm_opinions_pop

    Kadeen Griffiths listed Swift’s many faults: not criticizing President Trump, not “publicly support[ing] organizations” like Planned Parenthood and not attending the Women’s March (her tweet apparently wasn’t enough.) Outlet after outlet has pressured Swift to condemn the president in the name of feminism. In January, the Daily Beast went so far as to accuse her of “Spineless Feminism.” Swift may be the highest-paid artist in the world, but her decision to speak out on issues as she pleases rather than as others call on her to means she gets little credit for the space she’s made for female artists.
     

    “Spineless Feminism”

    That’s practically an accusation out of the Stalinist purges.

    Gulag, comrade. For being a shameless reactionary who does as she pleases and does neither self-criticize nor join the tweeting chorus!

    (Come on Taylor, make a video about Jehanne, daughter of Darc, throwing stuff out of France already)

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  116. El Dato says:
    @Jack Hanson
    This shouldn't be surprising from an industry that treats over the top Beyonce worship as a caste marker for how "woke" you are.

    Unsurprisingly, the author is a mystery meat who is obviously super pissed she will never have high cheekbones or natural long blonde hair.

    Taylor Swift is the Min Mei of the AR.

    Taylor Swift is the Min Mei of the AR.

    Is it bad that I got this reference. (How old am I … of fuuu—)

    In Macross (and Robotech), Minmay is the love interest of the main character Hikaru Ichijyo (Rick Hunter in Robotech) and becomes an idol singer and film star on board the spacecraft SDF-1 Macross. Her songs, which cause confusion amongst alien Zentradi soldiers, play a critical role in Space War I against Boddole Zer’s Zentradi fleet. … In the Macross world, Minmay continues to be remembered decades after Space War I. Her songs are constantly cherished and she will always be known as the girl who ended a war by singing. In every Macross sequel (even the non-canon Macross II OVA and movie), Minmay is referred to either indirectly (through references of her songs) or explicitly.

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    I'm more excited about the fact we'd get Macross Valkyries myself.

    Funny thing was how Fokker and Claudia were in an interracial relationship in 1985 and no one cared either way (WM/BW pairing). It was a simpler time.
    , @Twinkie
    You nerds. Did you all play Dungeons and Dragons in high school?
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  117. El Dato says:
    @AndrewR
    The target audience for that Kid Rock video has got to be people with IQs under 90.

    Isn’t it more like a parody … Weird Al singing about his Pentiums comes to mind:

    (back when having a “T1 line in your house” (1.544 Mbit/s) was the costly sheeeeet)

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    Despite its slow speed,a T-1 line is still over a thousand dollars a month. You are paying for high reliability,usually there is a service level agreement which means they will fix it any time day or night.
    , @Mr. Anon
    I often find I like the Weird Al parody songs - just considered musically - better than the songs he parodies.
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  118. Altai says:

    Buzzfeed: We are legitimate cultural commentators.

    Also Buzzfeed: Why won’t Taysway wade in on politics?!

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  119. Hhsiii says:
    @Boethiuss
    Taylor Swift is a Whiskey-type theory of femininity come to life. She gets a lot of mileage from a string of relationships, because the associated drama fuels the imaginations of her younger white female fan base and the relationships that they are in or would like to be in.

    But, the upshot is that she doesn't have a husband or recognizable male protector figure, so she is a target for Kanye West, Nicki Minaj, and whoever else who wants to carry the culture wars into the niche of pop stardom.

    She succeeds or fails in these terms based on how well she can navigate those cultural currents. And frankly she's done pretty well so far.

    I don't have much use for her, her tunes aren't even catchy for me. In the bigger picture though, the alt-right types who want to make her some kind of icon are barking up the wrong tree. Ok, black women aren't going to like her because she'll take some black male attention away from them. But anyone who wants to protect the future for white children to grow up in is not going to be getting any help from Taylor Swift.

    You Belong With Me is pretty catchy. Try that one. It’s the only one I know.

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  120. El Dato says:
    @Anonymous

    whiter than white female singers who don’t hang with the brothers and don’t collaborate with them for absurd rap videos etc.
     
    Huh?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcIy9NiNbmo

    I… I can’t watch this.

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  121. Lady Gaga apparently spent time at CTY

    Here is a recent article about the Johns Hopkins CTY :

    https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/10/longest-study-of-genius-kids-reveals-what-it-takes-to-be-successful.html

    In fact, many innovators are people whose cognitive skills were identified and supported in their early years through enrichment programs such as Johns Hopkins University’s Center for Talented Youth, which began as an accompaniment to this ongoing study.

    Some notable one-percenters who have passed through the center include Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg, Google co-founder Sergey Brin and Lady Gaga.

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  122. @International Jew
    Could someone provide a Taylor Swift primer? I've heard the name and I knew she was in show business but that's all I know.

    Your innocence is a beautiful thing and should be preserved.

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  123. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @El Dato
    Isn't it more like a parody ... Weird Al singing about his Pentiums comes to mind:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpMvS1Q1sos

    (back when having a "T1 line in your house" (1.544 Mbit/s) was the costly sheeeeet)

    Despite its slow speed,a T-1 line is still over a thousand dollars a month. You are paying for high reliability,usually there is a service level agreement which means they will fix it any time day or night.

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  124. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Anonymous
    Taylor Swift is well known in pop culture for dating a lot of celebrity men to advance her career. The meaning behind that blog post is Taylor Swift needs to date a black man. Look what dating a black woman did for Prince Harry.

    Well, they’re mostly PR relationships that benefit both parties’ careers. Specifically in Swift’s case, it’s rumoured that in a lot of those arrangements she’s not just any kind of PR gf, but the guys’ beard.

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  125. You’d think in this anti-white and anti-harassment atmosphere, somebody would come down on Schwarzenegger. Pumping Iron is filled with not okay moments.

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  126. @Anonymous
    Taylor Swift is well known in pop culture for dating a lot of celebrity men to advance her career. The meaning behind that blog post is Taylor Swift needs to date a black man. Look what dating a black woman did for Prince Harry.

    Did he get a disease?

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    Marrying a black woman is going to be an antidote for the royal family. No one can say they are aggressively white anymore.
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  127. keuril says:
    @black sea

    Swift’s relative silence on politics may have worked for the majority of her career so far. But by the time the 1989 era came to a close, a lot of Swift’s standby strategies had already proven themselves outdated. And as a sizable portion of the US entered panic mode politically, the perceived stakes of anyone’s silence seemed to grow exponentially…
     
    Wow, where to begin?

    What is "the 1989 era"? 1989 is a single year; an era is a period of history marked by certain distinguishing characteristics. Does she mean the era of the 1980s? Maybe, but if so, what are the particular qualities of the 1980s that she is connecting to Taylor Swift's standby strategies?

    After a bit of Googling, I discovered that Swift was born in 1989, so I guess the writer is referencing the era up to the point of Swift's birth. She says that these standby strategies had proven to be outdated by the end of this era (i.e. the year of Swift's birth), and yet, in the previous sentence, she says that Swift's “relative silence on politics," -- presumably, one of her standby strategies -- pretty much worked for the "majority of her career." Chronologically, this makes no sense.

    Finally, at the end of this era of 1989, "a sizable portion of the US entered panic mode politically."

    So I guess this occurred during the early 1990s. This panic mode revolved around what? The world is never what we would want it to be, so there are always issues to feel aggrieved about, but I don't remember the early 90s as a period of "panic mode." Quite the opposite.

    I don’t think this young lady has any coherent argument to make. She just doesn’t like Taylor Swift because, well, because she’s Taylor Swift.

    BTW, graduate of Oberlin College, same as Lena Dunham.

    Re Taylor Swift’s 1989 era, there’s this thing called Wikipedia, bro.

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    Yes, busted, there's no doubt about it.
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  128. Moses says:
    @AndrewR
    I'd be interested to hear stories from his experience there

    Just what I heard second hand from my folks. Don’t have details. It was very unpleasant for him. He’s a good kid. They are a hardworking professional family, backbone of America types.

    His experience at Oberlin pushed him and his parents hard towards embracing a White identity. They’re not shy talking about it at family gatherings when prompted. After all, why wouldn’t they after their son was the object of hatred just for being a White athlete?

    I think this is beginning to happen all across America. It’s the inevitable result of SJW-ism and identity politics. It’s just getting started.

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  129. Clyde says:
    @Anonymous

    whiter than white female singers who don’t hang with the brothers and don’t collaborate with them for absurd rap videos etc.
     
    Huh?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcIy9NiNbmo

    That must be the only one. She did it to get the anti-racism crowd off her back, not that it worked.

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  130. @Alec Leamas
    Can the number of people who might think this piece is truly about Swift possibly exceed the number of people who think the piece is all about the octoroon who wrote it and her own internalized hang ups?

    Can the number of people who might think this piece is truly about Swift possibly exceed the number of people who think the piece is all about the octoroon who wrote it and her own internalized hang ups?

    It’s a consequence of living in an “anti-racist” pro-black, anti-white world. In this world, people like her feel empowered to take out their never-ending frustrations on whites, and to play up their associations with blackness.

    In a pro-white, anti-black world, people like her would play up her associations with whiteness and play down her associations with blackness.

    In a pro-white world, her motto would be “if you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em.”

    In our pro-black world, her motto is “if you can’t join ‘em, beat ‘em.”

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  131. @anon

    the US, Swift’s battle with Kardashian faded...
     
    Naturally, it makes no sense to me. Here is People Magazine's take on it:

    http://people.com/celebrity/social-media-reacts-to-kim-kardashian-west-taylor-swift-drama/

    The only thing that I knew about it was that it was openly recognized by urban creative types that a feud with an A lister on Twitter was priceless.

    As far as color? Kardashian is an honorary POC, what with her husband and her booty. I consider her generic 'ethnic' and an alpha at exploiting her racial/ethnic fluidity. I'm surprised that Black Women aren't more angry given the number of alpha Black Males that clan has captured.

    And Selena Gomez .... A legit POC .... sided with Taylor.

    The timing of this may have led Trump to up his Twitter feuding game.

    And Selena Gomez …. A legit POC …. sided with Taylor.

    Wow, I wouldn’t have predicted that. Her stock just went up a few points. “Honorary Aryan” status is hers for the taking, lol.

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  132. @AndrewR
    Taylor Swift is degenerate but Nicki Minaj is far more so. I would respect Swift if she had replied to Minaj's tweet with: "your Anaconda video was literally pornographic yet you're trying to act like you're a victim of discrimination"

    I would respect Swift if she had replied to Minaj’s tweet with: “your Anaconda video was literally pornographic yet you’re trying to act like you’re a victim of discrimination”

    You’re trying too hard. There’s no contradiction there.

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  133. @Not Raul
    Can someone tell me how someone who is white can avoid being "aggressively white"? I'm asking for a friend.

    You simply admit that you are white but don’t think you are white – just like you don’t think you are your friend.

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  134. But through the lens of a culture, especially a popular culture that involves progressives actively battling white supremacy, Swift is intrinsically linked to whiteness and privilege.

    These people are insane.

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  135. black sea says:
    @keuril
    Re Taylor Swift's 1989 era, there’s this thing called Wikipedia, bro.

    Yes, busted, there’s no doubt about it.

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  136. CK says:
    @Billy Shears
    "bleach stain"

    Bleach does not stain white things.

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  137. CK says:

    So for Taylor Swift fans in the audience:

    The singer is Telly Savalas’ youngest daughter.

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  138. @Not Raul
    Can someone tell me how someone who is white can avoid being "aggressively white"? I'm asking for a friend.

    “Can someone tell me how someone who is white can avoid being “aggressively white”? ”

    Sure. You can’t.

    Here’s the juice: White supremacy = White Privilege = Whiteness = Whites being alive.

    So, to eradicate #s 1, 2, and 3, it will soon be seen as necessary to eliminate #4.

    By that time, hopefully, enough of the world champions of organized lethal violence (that is, whites) will have copped on to #It’s OK To Be White to give us a fighting chance.

    Hope that helps.

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  139. RonaldB says:
    @Anonymous

    whiter than white female singers who don’t hang with the brothers and don’t collaborate with them for absurd rap videos etc.
     
    Huh?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcIy9NiNbmo

    Great catch.

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  140. @International Jew
    Could someone provide a Taylor Swift primer? I've heard the name and I knew she was in show business but that's all I know.

    I assumed y0u were making a point, a correct and witty one, that a pop star is not someone an adult would seriously be concerned with, much less debate over and write political screeds about as Alanna Bennet did.

    Then I read all the literal replies to your comment, and I don’t know what to think. Do people really think they need to suggest Wikipedia and mock you as if you don’t know how to look up something?

    Whatever. Though I think she is remarkable, it really doesn’t matter who she is, and I think you already know that. I’m with you.

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    that a pop star is not someone an adult would seriously be concerned with...
     
    A bit harsh. We should pay some attention to what fuels the next generation.
    , @International Jew
    I was looking for an answer that would explain why she in particular might be in the left's crosshairs. Commenter "biz" (#133) cleared that up for me.
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  141. biz says:
    @Anonymous

    They hate her because she’s damn near perfect, as if she was built fifty years in the future by Japan’s best fembot designers.
     
    If your idea of female perfection is 5'11" and has a bottom whose flatness is about between Nancy Sinatra's and Chrissie Hynde's when both were her age , okay.

    Female height is super attractive (to men who truly appreciate a female figure and aren’t just self-conscious about appearing short)! How else do you explain the fact that high heels exist?

    As for Swift’s posterior, I have read an entire detailed online thread on it at one point where people analyzed it from all angles and the only proper conclusion is that it is completely adequate. No, it is not at Kardashian or Minaj levels of steatopygia, but it is sufficient.

    The previous commenter was right. Some day when AI can design and construct the perfect waifu for mass consumption, it will basically be her. Or they could just program the opposite of Alanna Bennet, same thing.

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    How else do you explain the fact that high heels exist?
     
    They don't exist to increase height (well, not only). They are there to lift the posterior. The woman look less plumb, the back arches, the gait changes and all of this lights the sex neurons the male brain.
    , @Jack D

    How else do you explain the fact that high heels exist?
     
    High heels exist not so much to increase overall height but to change the posture so that the butt is thrust out more, a primate mating signal. They also give the appearance of longer legs which are a sign of sexual maturity.

    Height in men is sexually valued even more than for women (it is common on "dating" sites for women to specify that they want their men to be above a certain height > 6') but men don't wear high heels - if they want to cheat their height they wear "elevator shoes" that increase overall height without changing the posture.

    Models tend to be tall but many "sex symbol" actresses are quite short - e.g. Selma Hayek is 5'2".
    , @Alec Leamas

    How else do you explain the fact that high heels exist?
     
    High heels don't exist to increase height (in which case, platform shoes or stilts would be more practical). High heels create the illusion of longer legs relative to the torso (longer leg proportion is a secondary sex characteristic), accentuate the calves, cause the buttocks to be more prominently presented, accentuate the curve in the spine above the buttocks, and force the breasts out and up in the posture required to stand/walk in them.

    Models and women in the public eye are taller and slimmer than average because those builds allow clothes to "drape" better than more compact builds. tl;dr: these are female builds favored by clothing designers, not necessarily your average red blooded male (porn would be a better data point for determining this).
    , @Anonymous
    Women on tiptoe is just sexy. That's all there is to it.
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  142. biz says:
    @International Jew
    Could someone provide a Taylor Swift primer? I've heard the name and I knew she was in show business but that's all I know.

    Here’s the only important thing to know, culturally:

    Taylor Swift is a singer who is slightly more wholesome than the rest of the current crop of singing divas that teen and pre-teen girls are fans of. She has no tattoos, has not dated a degenerate, acts sexy but not completely sexual, and seems to treat people, male and female, nicely without an excess of attitude. She also has a conventionally attractive thin body and beautiful face. As a consequence of all of the above, she is hated by woke culture.

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    Spot on.
    , @Ivy
    Taylor Swift and Melania Trump have somewhat similar eye shapes, so obviously another cultural aggression. ;)
    , @Jim Christian
    Swift has plenty of tattage..
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  143. res says:
    @Anon
    "Absenting". You can pretty much assume that anyone who creates a non-standard verb out of an adjective is so far into the loony left that they aren't even worth listening to.

    At this point, the cultural divide in this country is so great that the left feels a need to create their own dialect. We can't have a conversation because we don't even speak the same language.

    We can't even agree on what conversation means. Is it a long winded, hectoring sermon delivered by a self- appointed moral arbiter? Or is it two people exchanging ideas and trying to see things from the other person's perspective? The definition you choose places you very clearly in one camp or the other.

    “Absenting”. You can pretty much assume that anyone who creates a non-standard verb out of an adjective is so far into the loony left that they aren’t even worth listening to.

    What? One of the definitions of absent is as a verb: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/absent
    My compact OED gives etymologies of the English verb from back into the 1400s and it comes from the Latin absentāre: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/absentare (via French)
    ing is used to conjugate certain verb forms (e.g. present participle). Here is a verb conjugation table for absent: http://conjugator.reverso.net/conjugation-english-verb-absent.html

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  144. RonaldB says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    I'm a let you finish, but Taylor Swift does a nice job covering one of the great pop songs of this decade.

    https://youtu.be/2GGRdwfhl-U

    That’s a beautiful rendition, almost a ballad.

    I haven’t looked at any of Swift’s work prior to this thread, but this song makes it obvious to me she’s bursting with talent.

    I don’t expect celebrities to participate in political discussions. It’s not their forte, they generally don’t know much, and they can express a cultural zeitgeist in music or art without really understanding it. Socrates understood that, saying that artists are not really the best interpreters of their own art.

    The left insists that art be politicized, because the left pushes its ideas through crowd-think rather than through logic or facts. I think the best response of nationalists or white nationalists is to let artists do their art; patronize what you like and don’t attend what you don’t like.

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  145. I can understand criticizing Swift because she moved from decent country music to bland pop songs that pretty much sound alike, but racism?

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  146. EdwardM says:
    @Moses
    And she went to Oberlin. Say no more.

    My cousin's kid got an athletic scholarship to Oberlin. He transferred after his first year. White jocks are *hated* at Oberlin. He got the hell out of there.

    Sorry to be pedantic, but isn’t it true that Oberlin, as a Division III school, does not offer athletic scholarships?

    Of course they presumably still recruit athletes, and maybe give them some kind of incentives that skirt the no-scholarship policy.

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    Not sure if this applies to Oberlin, but being Div 3 does not mean no athletics scholarships in any sports. The rules are complicated but there are above the table exceptions, plus under the table ones as you mentioned.
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  147. RonaldB says:
    @Anonymous
    I think that one thing that eludes many is that - if I'm not mistaken - most top level female pop stars are significantly more intelligent than the typical person. This might not be their image, but that is because they are smart enough to not make it their image. They are probably significantly more intelligent than most of the people who comment on them.

    This seems to be true no matter what their expressed "political" or "social" views are. That isn't what they are thinking about. They are thinking about music and image and certain aspects of culture. Often dance and fashion.

    Taylor Swift strikes me as intelligent enough to know that anything she says on political matters will come back to harm her. She is very good at doing what she is actually good at and wants to focus on that, and that requires intellectual focus.

    Even very SJWish stars like Miley Cyrus and Lada Gaga refrain from overtly ideological stuff. Both of them strike me as rather intelligent, but even though they push SJW themes through imagery, they seem to refrain from trying to make "pronouncements". By contrast, Katy Perry seems slightly below their level, and seems to have been captured by politics. She went all in for Hillary, and probably won't recover. By contrast, Lady Gaga did the last Super Bowl, and I thought she was great - it will probably be the greatest Super Bowl ever, as the NFL will likely collapse.

    There are actually two reasons not to pay any attention to the political statements of artists, even though they are very intelligent, as you pointed out.

    One reason is that an intelligent view on most issues takes some knowledge and thought, which as you also pointed out, artists simply don’t have time for. The best use of their time is to spend it on their art, which may reflect popular culture, but which is not the same as a reasoned commentary. They simply don’t know enough at make intelligent comments, which is nothing against them.

    A second reason is that intelligence is general but also specific, and artists do not necessarily have the specific abilities necessary for a reasoned discussion. It can be argued that art comes from an emotional and intuitive base, rather than a logical base. So, art is a completely different pursuit from political analysis. Viva la difference.

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    Let me add a third reason: artists want to be popular, so it doesn't pay to express the kind of opinions that make one unpopular with the media, AKA interesting opinions.

    I recall that during the Lewinsky scandal, a reporter asked Tom Hanks what he thought of Clinton's behavior and he said it was disgusting. Well, Steve Spielberg, who has given Hanks most of his best roles, is a BFF of the Clintons, so a few days later Hanks busily back-pedaled his remarks. I guess Spielberg expressed concerns.
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  148. res says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Lady Gaga was in some old tracking study of intelligent children, or something like that. Not the most elite one, but nothing to sneeze at. And she's a really good singer as she showed at some Academy Awards show when she did a Julie Andrews tribute singing Julie Andrews old songs about as well as Julie Andrews would have at that age.

    Top 1% per this: https://www.nature.com/news/how-to-raise-a-genius-lessons-from-a-45-year-study-of-super-smart-children-1.20537
    Steve, you have an amazing memory and ability to make connections.

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  149. @El Dato

    Taylor Swift is the Min Mei of the AR.
     
    Is it bad that I got this reference. (How old am I ... of fuuu---)

    In Macross (and Robotech), Minmay is the love interest of the main character Hikaru Ichijyo (Rick Hunter in Robotech) and becomes an idol singer and film star on board the spacecraft SDF-1 Macross. Her songs, which cause confusion amongst alien Zentradi soldiers, play a critical role in Space War I against Boddole Zer's Zentradi fleet. ... In the Macross world, Minmay continues to be remembered decades after Space War I. Her songs are constantly cherished and she will always be known as the girl who ended a war by singing. In every Macross sequel (even the non-canon Macross II OVA and movie), Minmay is referred to either indirectly (through references of her songs) or explicitly.
     

    I’m more excited about the fact we’d get Macross Valkyries myself.

    Funny thing was how Fokker and Claudia were in an interracial relationship in 1985 and no one cared either way (WM/BW pairing). It was a simpler time.

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  150. @Chrisnonymous
    Really? Is her singing that bad?

    She’s gonna confuse the hell out of our enemies and serve as a rallying point for us in our giant mecha, duh.

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    But first we have to confuse (((Seele))) so that the Human Instrumentality Project can achieve its TRUE objective. And then she dies messily while fighting the fight of the last stabd in any case.

    No wait, that's another series...
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  151. @Anonymous

    They hate her because she’s damn near perfect, as if she was built fifty years in the future by Japan’s best fembot designers.
     
    If your idea of female perfection is 5'11" and has a bottom whose flatness is about between Nancy Sinatra's and Chrissie Hynde's when both were her age , okay.

    Well, I did say she was built by Japanese experts in robotics. Hence the flat bottom you say she has. I don’t know about that, because I haven’t had the opportunity to grab it, unfortunately.

    Anyone who denies that Taylor Swift is blessed with outstanding beauty must be blind. They hate her because she has talent, success, beauty, and enough brains to make smart career decisions. They absolutely envy and hate that, for the same reasons they hate us.

    They hate her because a man like me finds her far more desirable than any one of them.

    They also hate her because she does not care what they think. We should follow her example. It drives them mad.

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  152. @Erik Sieven
    imitate Blacks and try to be good at what they are good at, but than fail, because they are superior. So e.g. as a female twerking without the required anatomical features, as a male rapping etc.

    Her “Shake it Off” video got a lot of SJW fainting cause a scene had her done up as a hood rat with a twerking crew. She was unable to twerk and didn’t get after an attempt, but the usual suspects went insane.

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  153. @Steve Sailer
    Lady Gaga was in some old tracking study of intelligent children, or something like that. Not the most elite one, but nothing to sneeze at. And she's a really good singer as she showed at some Academy Awards show when she did a Julie Andrews tribute singing Julie Andrews old songs about as well as Julie Andrews would have at that age.

    Gaga was classically trained at Julliard, so she definitely gets how music works and is formed.

    I think she got seriously side tracked when she became a gay icon and let that get to her head, putting out some real turds “with a message” versus her first record which was fun pop stuff.

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    Gaga was classically trained at Julliard, so she definitely gets how music works and is formed.
     
    Tony Bennett, no small talent himself for a piano singer, did a Christmas record with her several eyars ago. He raved over her studio skills, her professionalism, her formal musical training. On Stern's show one morning, he said a lot of folks can play the notes, but Gaga makes the music. High praise.

    I still think she's a nitwit with stories to tell, but ya gotta hand it to her for turning it into all that Dough-Ray-Meeee!
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  154. @AndrewR
    I get a very strong Caitlyn Jenner vibe from her

    She’s basically the mould for the white womanhood ideal and you’re comparing her to an aged tranny?

    I thought you had hit your peak idiocy with your blackpilling, then you go and justify Sha’ria FGM, and now this.

    Tiny Duck, a challenger has appeared.

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    She's certainly not my ideal for feminine beauty although I wouldn't expel her from my bed.

    Btw the glottal stop is between the i and a: shari'a
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  155. @Malcolm X-Lax
    Exactly. Their jealousy is palpable. You don't see black men writing these articles. I wonder why.

    Exactly. Their jealousy is palpable. You don’t see black men writing these articles. I wonder why.

    The male analogue of Taylor Swift is probably Tom Brady, who got similar treatment for his casual friendship with Trump and the MAGA hat in his locker. I think Randy Moss took some parting shots at Brady for his golden boy persona.

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  156. AndrewR says:
    @Jack Hanson
    She's basically the mould for the white womanhood ideal and you're comparing her to an aged tranny?

    I thought you had hit your peak idiocy with your blackpilling, then you go and justify Sha'ria FGM, and now this.

    Tiny Duck, a challenger has appeared.

    She’s certainly not my ideal for feminine beauty although I wouldn’t expel her from my bed.

    Btw the glottal stop is between the i and a: shari’a

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    Ah yes, that's the takeaway from this exchange.
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  157. Bee7 says:
    @Mr. Blank
    The few liberals out there who haven't completely lost their minds to identity politics should pay close attention to this. Essentially, the message is: Silence is not an option. You either vocally support every part of the progressive agenda or you're Nazi scum.

    Which points to one possible explanation for Swift's relative silence: It's possible that she believes in some, but not all progressive pieties and she thinks, correctly, that it would be too complicated for her to explain it to shrieking leftists. While she's vocal about supporting "feminism" in the abstract, she strikes me as someone who'd be very skeptical of some of the crazier ideas of the left.

    Her super girly-girl persona makes it hard for me to picture her being very enthusiastic about transgender stuff, for example. She seems like the sort of girl who wants a pink treehouse filled with stuffed animals and a big sign on the door that says "NO ICKY BOYS ALLOWED."

    Progressives have gone from, “you can not say that” to “you have to say this, this, and this”.

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  158. Forbes says:
    @biz
    Here's the only important thing to know, culturally:

    Taylor Swift is a singer who is slightly more wholesome than the rest of the current crop of singing divas that teen and pre-teen girls are fans of. She has no tattoos, has not dated a degenerate, acts sexy but not completely sexual, and seems to treat people, male and female, nicely without an excess of attitude. She also has a conventionally attractive thin body and beautiful face. As a consequence of all of the above, she is hated by woke culture.

    Spot on.

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  159. @Anonymous
    Taylor definitely appeals to a mostly, but not exclusively white demo. Nonwhite female offspring of affluent suburban blacks, mestizos (usually conquistadorish) and Indians (dot-not-feather) will be seen occasinally at a Taylor Swift show.


    Of course she is not a racialist and sees one color in an audience-green.


    She has not really been adopted by WN/WP types on any level except as an injoke and an attempt to spread the meme. I remember when Jim Leskevich and Stan Sikorski had a popular WP podcast. They'd go off on 'Hersheys, the Official Chocolate of White Supremists. ' It was no more serious tha TS fanship in this context. No white male gives that much of a care about TS either way. Her music is simply filler to the male brain more or less.

    How dare you! I would not be caught dead at a Taylor Swift show.

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  160. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @biz
    Female height is super attractive (to men who truly appreciate a female figure and aren't just self-conscious about appearing short)! How else do you explain the fact that high heels exist?

    As for Swift's posterior, I have read an entire detailed online thread on it at one point where people analyzed it from all angles and the only proper conclusion is that it is completely adequate. No, it is not at Kardashian or Minaj levels of steatopygia, but it is sufficient.

    The previous commenter was right. Some day when AI can design and construct the perfect waifu for mass consumption, it will basically be her. Or they could just program the opposite of Alanna Bennet, same thing.

    How else do you explain the fact that high heels exist?

    They don’t exist to increase height (well, not only). They are there to lift the posterior. The woman look less plumb, the back arches, the gait changes and all of this lights the sex neurons the male brain.

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  161. @Dave from Oz
    The difficulty with "Anaconda" is that it is not very musical. In fact, it's anti-music, a parody of music as such. The most memorable bits of sound from that track are the Sir Mix-A-Lot samples.

    Also, Nicky Minaj sounds like a duck.

    Nicky Minaj stole much of her routine from Lil Kim anyway. Do an image search.

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    Nicky Minaj stole much of her routine from Lil Kim anyway. Do an image search.
     
    Show me anyone who didn't get their look from someone. There is very little real originality in pop music because it tends not to be rewarded.

    There were thousands of albums released on major labels by people you've never heard of that were superb but they didn't fit the expectations of the times and are today forgotten completely.
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  162. El Dato says:
    @Anonymous
    Sailer's Law of Female Journalism, I think.

    She's much better than average for a "black" female "journalist", but she's no Taylor Swift.

    She should lose the smug expression. Also, completely reject SJWism and embrace reality. She really would be more attractive that way.

    Don’st look smug. Just friendly/neutral.

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  163. My wife’s cousin is married to Taylor Swift’s guitarist/banjoist/cellist. He was on SNL with her last night. That is all. I have nothing more to add.

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  164. bomag says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    I assumed y0u were making a point, a correct and witty one, that a pop star is not someone an adult would seriously be concerned with, much less debate over and write political screeds about as Alanna Bennet did.

    Then I read all the literal replies to your comment, and I don't know what to think. Do people really think they need to suggest Wikipedia and mock you as if you don't know how to look up something?

    Whatever. Though I think she is remarkable, it really doesn't matter who she is, and I think you already know that. I'm with you.

    that a pop star is not someone an adult would seriously be concerned with…

    A bit harsh. We should pay some attention to what fuels the next generation.

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  165. Jack D says:
    @biz
    Female height is super attractive (to men who truly appreciate a female figure and aren't just self-conscious about appearing short)! How else do you explain the fact that high heels exist?

    As for Swift's posterior, I have read an entire detailed online thread on it at one point where people analyzed it from all angles and the only proper conclusion is that it is completely adequate. No, it is not at Kardashian or Minaj levels of steatopygia, but it is sufficient.

    The previous commenter was right. Some day when AI can design and construct the perfect waifu for mass consumption, it will basically be her. Or they could just program the opposite of Alanna Bennet, same thing.

    How else do you explain the fact that high heels exist?

    High heels exist not so much to increase overall height but to change the posture so that the butt is thrust out more, a primate mating signal. They also give the appearance of longer legs which are a sign of sexual maturity.

    Height in men is sexually valued even more than for women (it is common on “dating” sites for women to specify that they want their men to be above a certain height > 6′) but men don’t wear high heels – if they want to cheat their height they wear “elevator shoes” that increase overall height without changing the posture.

    Models tend to be tall but many “sex symbol” actresses are quite short – e.g. Selma Hayek is 5’2″.

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  166. @Anonymous
    Try Wikipedia.

    Basically Taylor Swift is a 27 year old white female who had at 19 a really huge record and has had a bunch more since. She appeals to a preteen to tween to teen (primarily white) female demo primarily.

    She is notorious for dating (and presumably rogering) famous men and then dumping them and writing a song about them. It's considered a rite of passage in certain quarters.

    Taylor is estimated to be worth $240 to $260 million, which is doing all right for a girl by most estimates. Madge is worth about $800 million, but at 27 she wasn't worth very much.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFZvbrCI3oo

    A lot of "serious" female rockers have never been invited to do that.

    Who’s Madge??

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    Britspeak for Madonna
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  167. Forbes says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    You know who is "aggressively white"?

    Sylvester Stallone.

    In the Rocky movies (which Stallone directed and starred in), Rocky Balboa boxes with Clubber Lang, Apollo Creed, and Mason Dixon. Half the boxers he fights are black, 1 is Russian (Ivan Drago), and 2 are American Whites (Tommy Gunn and Hulk Hogan).

    Given the movies were mostly made in the 70s/80s time period, there's a subtle racial subtext to all of this. The Philadelphia-based "Italian stallion" (Rocky's informal name) knocks out a bunch of blacks and even a Russian. It's sort of glorifying the white masculinity of east coast ethnics. Rocky's trainer is a scrappy Jewish-American guy named Micky Goldmill.

    I wonder how Stallone got away with making these movies. I suppose maybe because they were made back in a less politically correct time. These days you wouldn't see many major directors creating a movie franchise around a white male who knocks out lots of black/foreign boxers.

    I wonder how Stallone got away with making these movies.

    Stallone got Rocky (1976) green lighted for bringing in a $1 million budget. It did $225 million at the box office.

    Given the movies were mostly made in the 70s/80s time period, there’s a subtle racial subtext to all of this.

    Actually not. That’s 2017 revisionism. If you go looking for racial subtext, you’re gonna find racial subtext.

    While denied by Stallone, Rocky is assumed to be inspired by the 1975 Chuck Wepner v Muhammad Ali fight, where Wepner went 15 rounds with Ali. Other influences for the storyline are surmised. Wepner won an undisclosed lawsuit settlement from Stallone.

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    It's assumed to be partly based on Wepner because Stallone, on the DVD special of Rocky some yrs back, admitted that Rocky was partially based on the fight. He had watched it on TV in mid. 70's and used that as a basic story premise. If he had credited the fight (or heroic underdog performance by Wepner going the distance vs Ali), Wepner probably wouldn't have minded.

    But Stallone straight up admitted that it was partially based on Wepner.
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  168. Big Bill says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    Or maybe she's just a pop singer.

    They hate her because she's damn near perfect, as if she was built fifty years in the future by Japan's best fembot designers.

    And I don't even know a single one of her songs.

    Here's why they hate whiteness:

    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/f6/6b/b9/f66bb947e05f7a17bf7936bf41a344a2.jpg

    Regarding the Taylor Swift photo, when and where do girls learn that toes-tucked-in, bent-knee, half-turned, knees-perfectly-overlapping, look-at-my-ass-it’s-so-fine posture for photos? In middle school? At beauty-queen competitions? Cheerleader training?

    I recently looked at several generations worth of family photos and didn’t find one of them with this “come hither” posture. I get the Marilyn Monroe/Jane Mansfield/Kardashian shoulders-hunched-together, forward-leaning, head-tossed-back, boobs-falling-out posture. It’s a pretty straight-forward, take-a-look-at-these-big-puppies-I-am-pouring into your-lap sex pose, but the Taylor Swift posture seems much more complicated and asymmetric.

    Any comments, ladies?

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    Big Bill asks, "Regarding the Taylor Swift photo, when and where do girls learn that toes-tucked-in, bent-knee, half-turned, knees-perfectly-overlapping, look-at-my-ass-it’s-so-fine posture for photos?"

    Maybe it's related to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contrapposto .
    , @Buzz Mohawk
    My wife does that. Years ago I laughed and asked her what it was about. She said it had something to do with taking ballet classes while growing up in Europe, and that it makes women look slimmer and more graceful. Every woman we know over there seems to do this when we take pictures with them.

    I don't think it's very common in America except among models and performers who have learned it. My impression is that it is too traditionally female to fit into our culture.

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  169. @biz
    Female height is super attractive (to men who truly appreciate a female figure and aren't just self-conscious about appearing short)! How else do you explain the fact that high heels exist?

    As for Swift's posterior, I have read an entire detailed online thread on it at one point where people analyzed it from all angles and the only proper conclusion is that it is completely adequate. No, it is not at Kardashian or Minaj levels of steatopygia, but it is sufficient.

    The previous commenter was right. Some day when AI can design and construct the perfect waifu for mass consumption, it will basically be her. Or they could just program the opposite of Alanna Bennet, same thing.

    How else do you explain the fact that high heels exist?

    High heels don’t exist to increase height (in which case, platform shoes or stilts would be more practical). High heels create the illusion of longer legs relative to the torso (longer leg proportion is a secondary sex characteristic), accentuate the calves, cause the buttocks to be more prominently presented, accentuate the curve in the spine above the buttocks, and force the breasts out and up in the posture required to stand/walk in them.

    Models and women in the public eye are taller and slimmer than average because those builds allow clothes to “drape” better than more compact builds. tl;dr: these are female builds favored by clothing designers, not necessarily your average red blooded male (porn would be a better data point for determining this).

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  170. Jack D says:
    @AndrewR
    I get a very strong Caitlyn Jenner vibe from her

    This is not surprising because trannies try to model themselves on a feminine ideal and Taylor is (one type of) a feminine ideal. That said, her body type is that of a modern fashion model (skinny) rather than the old fashioned Marilyn Monroe curvy type. As the actual population has gotten fatter and fatter the ideal archetype has gotten skinnier.

    I think Taylor Swift’s beauty (and yes she is beautiful by many measures) has really helped her singing career A LOT. If she was fat and ugly she would not have had the success that she has had even if she had the same musical talents.

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    I think Taylor Swift’s beauty (and yes she is beautiful by many measures) has really helped her singing career A LOT. If she was fat and ugly she would not have had the success that she has had even if she had the same musical talents.
     
    Swift packages a whole brand in which her look is a sine qua non: pretty but girlish look, girlie-girl persona, lyrics that appeal to teen girls, etc. Even though she's pretty, she's not otherworldly pretty - teen girls can imagine her being one of their eleventh grade circle of friends.

    Adele is an interesting case - she has paramount vocal talent, she's pretty and she's chubby. (IIRC, she'd slimmed down from fat to Rubenesque as she's found herself more in the public eye). Adele is only two years Swift's senior, but her persona is much more mature (though when she stops singing and speaks you'd swear you were hearing a Nineteenth Century London Chimney Sweep).

    I think any woman with great talent who is fat and ugly would get stuck as a studio/session musician and backing vocalist.
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  171. @Jack D
    This is not surprising because trannies try to model themselves on a feminine ideal and Taylor is (one type of) a feminine ideal. That said, her body type is that of a modern fashion model (skinny) rather than the old fashioned Marilyn Monroe curvy type. As the actual population has gotten fatter and fatter the ideal archetype has gotten skinnier.

    I think Taylor Swift's beauty (and yes she is beautiful by many measures) has really helped her singing career A LOT. If she was fat and ugly she would not have had the success that she has had even if she had the same musical talents.

    I think Taylor Swift’s beauty (and yes she is beautiful by many measures) has really helped her singing career A LOT. If she was fat and ugly she would not have had the success that she has had even if she had the same musical talents.

    Swift packages a whole brand in which her look is a sine qua non: pretty but girlish look, girlie-girl persona, lyrics that appeal to teen girls, etc. Even though she’s pretty, she’s not otherworldly pretty – teen girls can imagine her being one of their eleventh grade circle of friends.

    Adele is an interesting case – she has paramount vocal talent, she’s pretty and she’s chubby. (IIRC, she’d slimmed down from fat to Rubenesque as she’s found herself more in the public eye). Adele is only two years Swift’s senior, but her persona is much more mature (though when she stops singing and speaks you’d swear you were hearing a Nineteenth Century London Chimney Sweep).

    I think any woman with great talent who is fat and ugly would get stuck as a studio/session musician and backing vocalist.

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    I was reading the prior comment and actually thinking about Adele myself. I think her vocal ability might be the best of any of the female stars mentioned, and from what I've read she seems to have put forth enormous effort. She strikes me as a somewhat fatter girl who is smart enough to know that she has genuine vocal skills that need to be developed, and goes for it. All respect to her. I like her. (I'm not the least bit interested in her political views, though...)
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  172. I have to wonder why most commentators on the Hope Solo thread considered her not very attractive, while the general consensus here on the Taylor Swift thread is that she is the most beautiful woman in the world. I think both of these claims are unfair.

    Hope Solo is more than attractive enough when she gets gussied up in dresses, heels, and makeup. Taylor Swift is very pretty, but not quite in an exceptional way like a Bridget Bardot or a Cindy Crawford. She has a lemony aspect to her face which makes her eyes too narrow and the arch of her lips too pronounced.

    I would be happy with a woman who looked like either one of them, depending on how she treated me, of course. Neither of them would be disqualified on the basis of their looks; the deciding factor is in the heart and the personality.

    But if we’re looking for icons of White womanhood, it should be remembered that Hope Solo plays an athletically demanding sport at the world class level, while Taylor Swift, albeit undoubtedly talented and quite bright, is mainly a singer of vapid pop ditties. There is something to appreciate in each of them.

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    Hope do you just google your name weekly to see who's talking about you?

    I dont take you as a regular reader of isteve but instead passing through to defend your honor.
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  173. But can Swift’s way of doing things keep up with the mounting pressures of a culture whose priorities have shifted? …

    My culture’s priorities haven’t shifted. She’s barely mid-stream, let alone main. And who cares? Blacks make the money they make off the White people that buy their rap, Swift makes the money SHE makes off White people for whatever that stuff is she sings.

    Overall, since it’s only White people paying for anything, who cares where she is in the spectrum? You keep printing money until you run out of fans. When your 15 minutes are up, you retire. Simple stuff this. The rest? Embroidery.

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  174. J1234 says:

    Here’s one picture of the author of this article:

    Here’s another picture of the author of this article:

    https://www.linkedin.com/start/view-full-profile?_ed=0_Hk3EBpSVVO400yAEIfPkXmxdSkAcSOOsfeptb6h2m5tEcRqGDTFUZBRVbL4HnJy_&trk=public_profile_tc-view

    Almost appear to be different people. Looks like someone has occasional flirtations with whiteness, to one degree or another, and is maybe doing a little projecting of her own ambiguities onto others. Or not. If this person knew me, she’d consider me virtually the same person as Himmler (though I couldn’t be more different) and I don’t give a rat’s ass about Taylor Swift.

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  175. Sean says:

    Nicki Minaj has talent and big silicon tits and gigantic ass implants, they helped her a lot and maybe now they they hurt her, but she could get them removed if she wanted, so she shouldn’t pass remarks about natural figure (and skin colour) girls in their twenties. She is thirty-something, and thickening around the waist and neck, but that is life.

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  176. TheJester says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    Or maybe she's just a pop singer.

    They hate her because she's damn near perfect, as if she was built fifty years in the future by Japan's best fembot designers.

    And I don't even know a single one of her songs.

    Here's why they hate whiteness:

    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/f6/6b/b9/f66bb947e05f7a17bf7936bf41a344a2.jpg

    A PERFECT 10 and white to boot. Does it get any better?

    But between Taylor Swift and Ivanka Kushner. I’d choose Ivanka. My only concern is that she is a Japanese fembot. The Japanese are so good at this.

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  177. NOTA says:
    @Clyde
    From what little I have heard of her music, I don't like it. It's for a younger generation. Taylor Swift has found her niche and is making millions by exploiting it. There is a demand for whiter than white female singers who don't hang with the brothers and don't collaborate with them for absurd rap videos etc. TS didn't figure this out all by herself. She listened to some sound advice.
    So even if she likes rap and wanted to do something with Jay Zee, she won't. In order to maintain her image and keep the money rolling in. One look at her, she has a decent IQ. Just look at her very effective marketing campaign for her latest album. I will bet that she sells more albums as CDs than others. With the higher profits in CDs compared to downloads.
    She has never denounced Donald Trump. Another reason the multiKulti left has it in for Missy Snow White.

    It’s utterly silly for anyone to ask a pop singer or sports star their opinion on politics, and even sillier for anyone to care about their response. It’s like Jenny McCarthy being convinced vaccines cause autism–why on Earth would I care about her opinion?

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  178. whoever says: • Website
    @German_reader

    I’ve heard the name and I knew she was in show business but that’s all I know.
     
    You don't really need to know anything about her, all she sings about is ex-boyfriends and feuds with other stupid celebrities, totally vacuous and narcissistic stuff. Nothing serious people need to care about.

    Well, she did inspire a set of wicked awesome memes with Adolf Hitler’s words inscribed over her image and vice versa:

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  179. NOTA says:
    @scrivener3
    Someone who writes this sort of stuff cannot actually believe what they are writing. I think it is a sort of s**t test to discover the response, in order to judge the fitness of the adversary more than anything else.

    Women have a dog's instinct for rooting out weakness, and they are always very interested in whether their protectors or side is weak or strong.

    Did not Trump totally defuse an attack like this when Foxnews anchor repeated his quotes about women being fat, ugly, aggressive, by countering "only about Rosie O'Donnell"?

    I suspect plenty of propogandists over the years have believed the nonsense they were writing, and this lady is likely no different.

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  180. @Buzz Mohawk
    I assumed y0u were making a point, a correct and witty one, that a pop star is not someone an adult would seriously be concerned with, much less debate over and write political screeds about as Alanna Bennet did.

    Then I read all the literal replies to your comment, and I don't know what to think. Do people really think they need to suggest Wikipedia and mock you as if you don't know how to look up something?

    Whatever. Though I think she is remarkable, it really doesn't matter who she is, and I think you already know that. I'm with you.

    I was looking for an answer that would explain why she in particular might be in the left’s crosshairs. Commenter “biz” (#133) cleared that up for me.

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  181. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @biz
    Female height is super attractive (to men who truly appreciate a female figure and aren't just self-conscious about appearing short)! How else do you explain the fact that high heels exist?

    As for Swift's posterior, I have read an entire detailed online thread on it at one point where people analyzed it from all angles and the only proper conclusion is that it is completely adequate. No, it is not at Kardashian or Minaj levels of steatopygia, but it is sufficient.

    The previous commenter was right. Some day when AI can design and construct the perfect waifu for mass consumption, it will basically be her. Or they could just program the opposite of Alanna Bennet, same thing.

    Women on tiptoe is just sexy. That’s all there is to it.

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  182. biz says:
    @EdwardM
    Sorry to be pedantic, but isn't it true that Oberlin, as a Division III school, does not offer athletic scholarships?

    Of course they presumably still recruit athletes, and maybe give them some kind of incentives that skirt the no-scholarship policy.

    Not sure if this applies to Oberlin, but being Div 3 does not mean no athletics scholarships in any sports. The rules are complicated but there are above the table exceptions, plus under the table ones as you mentioned.

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  183. I think certain folks are still mad at her for “disrespecting” Kanye West at the Grammy Awards by not surrendering her award to Beyonce with an apology.

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  184. Ivy says:
    @biz
    Here's the only important thing to know, culturally:

    Taylor Swift is a singer who is slightly more wholesome than the rest of the current crop of singing divas that teen and pre-teen girls are fans of. She has no tattoos, has not dated a degenerate, acts sexy but not completely sexual, and seems to treat people, male and female, nicely without an excess of attitude. She also has a conventionally attractive thin body and beautiful face. As a consequence of all of the above, she is hated by woke culture.

    Taylor Swift and Melania Trump have somewhat similar eye shapes, so obviously another cultural aggression. ;)

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  185. njguy73 says:
    @Anonymous
    I'm pretty sure I've posted on this before, as Anonymous...
    ...but have we ever established if "Becky" comes from "Baby Got Back" by Sir Mix-A-Lot?

    I'm quite serious. I find this sort of thing fascinating.

    (Most linguistics is fascinating.)

    Yes.

    “Becky” comes from “Baby Got Back” by Sir Mix-A-Lot.

    That is a cold, hard fact. Two plus two equals four, it’s hard to whistle with crackers in your mouth, and “Becky” comes from “Baby Got Back” by Sir Mix-A-Lot.

    Class dismissed.

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  186. “It’s okay to be white.”

    Preach it, Steve. Preach it.

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  187. @biz
    Here's the only important thing to know, culturally:

    Taylor Swift is a singer who is slightly more wholesome than the rest of the current crop of singing divas that teen and pre-teen girls are fans of. She has no tattoos, has not dated a degenerate, acts sexy but not completely sexual, and seems to treat people, male and female, nicely without an excess of attitude. She also has a conventionally attractive thin body and beautiful face. As a consequence of all of the above, she is hated by woke culture.

    Swift has plenty of tattage..

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    Just google image searched. It is difficult to tell what is photoshopped and what isn't.
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  188. El Dato says:
    @Jack Hanson
    She's gonna confuse the hell out of our enemies and serve as a rallying point for us in our giant mecha, duh.

    But first we have to confuse (((Seele))) so that the Human Instrumentality Project can achieve its TRUE objective. And then she dies messily while fighting the fight of the last stabd in any case.

    No wait, that’s another series…

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    Are we talking about the 90s iteration or the recent one?
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  189. guest says:
    @anon
    especially when that damage presents itself as white innocence

    Wow, "white innocence". That's a new one. I guess that's what they call it when white people don't actually do anything wrong, but just sit there and mind their own business?

    They're really just going to keep pushing it, aren't they?

    Those who pretend to have “white innocence” are deniers of White Original Sin.

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  190. guest says:
    @Allen
    That's a reasonable analysis of the artists and songs except for Bonnie Tyler, who is Welsh not American; and Holding out for a Hero was written by the Jewish Jim Steinman. (Note, I really like Jim Steinman as a songwriter, he wrote every good song by Meatloaf, and don't find any "subversive" qualities in his writing). Considering Bonnie Tyler originally started out as the "female Rod Stewart" on stuff like It's a Heartache, it's sort of a stretch to call her the voice of American Femininity.

    Rod Stewart was the Scottish rock version of Sam Cooke, so maybe Bonnie has some Americans in her that way.

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  191. @Big Bill
    Regarding the Taylor Swift photo, when and where do girls learn that toes-tucked-in, bent-knee, half-turned, knees-perfectly-overlapping, look-at-my-ass-it's-so-fine posture for photos? In middle school? At beauty-queen competitions? Cheerleader training?

    I recently looked at several generations worth of family photos and didn't find one of them with this "come hither" posture. I get the Marilyn Monroe/Jane Mansfield/Kardashian shoulders-hunched-together, forward-leaning, head-tossed-back, boobs-falling-out posture. It's a pretty straight-forward, take-a-look-at-these-big-puppies-I-am-pouring into your-lap sex pose, but the Taylor Swift posture seems much more complicated and asymmetric.

    Any comments, ladies?

    Big Bill asks, “Regarding the Taylor Swift photo, when and where do girls learn that toes-tucked-in, bent-knee, half-turned, knees-perfectly-overlapping, look-at-my-ass-it’s-so-fine posture for photos?”

    Maybe it’s related to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contrapposto .

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  192. Lurker says:
    @syonredux
    Still more Black anti-Taylor Swiftness:

    The image of a hulking black man terrorizing a young, innocent, Southern white girl is hardly new in American pop culture. The 1915 movie The Birth of a Nation, the D.W. Griffith silent film about the rise of the KKK in the Reconstruction-era South (commonly known as the first true blockbuster) captured that fear and capitalized on it. Mae Marsh’s character was willing to throw herself over a cliff rather than let the villainous black man — played by white actor Walter Long in blackface — get his hands on her; for better or worse, it’s an iconic Hollywood moment.
     

    Americans have been conditioned to see black men as threatening for generations, and the consequences of this conditioning range from a pop starlet being able to paint a rapper as a villain for nearly a decade because she feels “bullied” to police officers shooting unarmed men in front of convenience stores because they felt “unsafe.” Obviously Kanye’s feud with Taylor is far less serious than any death by police shooting, but these cultural moments represent two ends of the same spectrum, a spectrum of systemic racism playing out in America.
     

    His VMAs stunt wasn’t nice, no, but it also happened in 2009 and didn’t really do any harm to Taylor (on the contrary, it wildly helped her career). But just as we’re conditioned to see black men as threatening, we’ve also been conditioned to respond immediately to the tears and emotions of a white woman. (The defense of a white woman’s virtue was once cause for literal lynchings.)

    Whether Taylor knows it or not (and I suspect she knows it), if Kim hadn’t released those Snapchats, there’s a large portion of America that simply would have continued to take her word over Kanye’s and believed that he was harassing her in the media out of spite. We’re a country structurally set up to protect whiteness over blackness, and at least one reason 2016 has been the dumpster fire that it has been is because of the way America sees black men — and black people — in general. Blackness is threatening, even if the worst thing it’s done to you is jump into your spotlight on a Grammys stage or try to sell you some loose cigarettes on the street. While Kim exposing Taylor isn’t going to solve racism in America, she’s not distracting from the narrative or “real issues” at all. She managed to say, “Keep my man’s name out ya mouth,” and highlight our country’s macro social problems on a micro scale.

     
    http://www.unz.com/isteve/get-out/?highlight=taylor+swift#comment-1783714

    Americans have been conditioned to see black men as threatening for generations

    And evil YT accomplishes this by always portraying black men in fiction as wise, dignified moral people who rarely commit crime and certainly not rape or murder or anything.

    Which shows just how clever and devious they are.

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  193. Lurker says:

    Yet again, as is normal in these stories, Ms. Bennett has simply made the case for separation.

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  194. @AndrewR
    She's certainly not my ideal for feminine beauty although I wouldn't expel her from my bed.

    Btw the glottal stop is between the i and a: shari'a

    Ah yes, that’s the takeaway from this exchange.

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  195. @Intelligent Dasein
    I have to wonder why most commentators on the Hope Solo thread considered her not very attractive, while the general consensus here on the Taylor Swift thread is that she is the most beautiful woman in the world. I think both of these claims are unfair.

    Hope Solo is more than attractive enough when she gets gussied up in dresses, heels, and makeup. Taylor Swift is very pretty, but not quite in an exceptional way like a Bridget Bardot or a Cindy Crawford. She has a lemony aspect to her face which makes her eyes too narrow and the arch of her lips too pronounced.

    I would be happy with a woman who looked like either one of them, depending on how she treated me, of course. Neither of them would be disqualified on the basis of their looks; the deciding factor is in the heart and the personality.

    But if we're looking for icons of White womanhood, it should be remembered that Hope Solo plays an athletically demanding sport at the world class level, while Taylor Swift, albeit undoubtedly talented and quite bright, is mainly a singer of vapid pop ditties. There is something to appreciate in each of them.

    Hope do you just google your name weekly to see who’s talking about you?

    I dont take you as a regular reader of isteve but instead passing through to defend your honor.

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  196. Frankie P says:
    @International Jew
    Who's Madge??

    Britspeak for Madonna

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    She's called that everywhere now.
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  197. biz says:
    @Jim Christian
    Swift has plenty of tattage..

    Just google image searched. It is difficult to tell what is photoshopped and what isn’t.

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  198. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
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    Britspeak for Madonna

    She’s called that everywhere now.

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  199. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Bro Methylene
    I had no idea who Taylor Swift was until I saw her in a promo for Black Rifle Coffee. Boy is she beautiful. If left-wing journalists are harassing her, she must be doing something right.

    I had no idea who Taylor Swift was until I saw her in a promo for Black Rifle Coffee. Boy is she beautiful.

    While she is not my ideal (that would be Marilyn Monroe in the pool scenes for her last, unfinished movie, maybe with just a little more boobage) Taylor is an elegant and very attractive woman and obviously not stupid either. Assuming she has birthworthy bone structure I hope she has three or four kids before she is too old and eggrot sets in.

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    You do not know how right you are in the birthworthy bone structure.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-38210837

    The regular use of Caesarean sections is having an impact on human evolution, say scientists.
    More mothers now need surgery to deliver a baby due to their narrow pelvis size, according to a study.
    Researchers estimate cases where the baby cannot fit down the birth canal have increased from 30 in 1,000 in the 1960s to 36 in 1,000 births today.
    Historically, these genes would not have been passed from mother to child as both would have died in labour.
    Researchers in Austria say the trend is likely to continue, but not to the extent that non-surgical births will become obsolete.
     
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Assuming she has birthworthy bone structure I hope she has three or four kids before she is too old and eggrot sets in.
     
    Sara Blakely, who resembles Taylor and is even richer, is the perfect role model:

    http://www.businessinsider.com/spanx-founder-sara-blakely-redefine-failure-2016-10

    Not that we can expect Taylor to marry an Itzler (especially one whose looks fit the name), considering the pop trash she's been dating and mining for lyrics.

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  200. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Rosamond Vincy
    Nicky Minaj stole much of her routine from Lil Kim anyway. Do an image search.

    Nicky Minaj stole much of her routine from Lil Kim anyway. Do an image search.

    Show me anyone who didn’t get their look from someone. There is very little real originality in pop music because it tends not to be rewarded.

    There were thousands of albums released on major labels by people you’ve never heard of that were superb but they didn’t fit the expectations of the times and are today forgotten completely.

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  201. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @AndrewR
    I get a very strong Caitlyn Jenner vibe from her

    http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2017/11/blind-item-4_12.html

    With one tweet, this A+ list singer could put a stop to the homophobic slurs her fans are heaping on this openly gay foreign born A list singer. She won’t though. She loves it and won’t ever say a word to protect him or stop her fans. If her fans only knew the truth about her.

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    I just can't see TS as a mussypuncher, but then again I am not the best observer of these things.

    Joan Jett didn't surprise me but that's been widely known since the mid-80s.
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  202. @Clyde
    From what little I have heard of her music, I don't like it. It's for a younger generation. Taylor Swift has found her niche and is making millions by exploiting it. There is a demand for whiter than white female singers who don't hang with the brothers and don't collaborate with them for absurd rap videos etc. TS didn't figure this out all by herself. She listened to some sound advice.
    So even if she likes rap and wanted to do something with Jay Zee, she won't. In order to maintain her image and keep the money rolling in. One look at her, she has a decent IQ. Just look at her very effective marketing campaign for her latest album. I will bet that she sells more albums as CDs than others. With the higher profits in CDs compared to downloads.
    She has never denounced Donald Trump. Another reason the multiKulti left has it in for Missy Snow White.

    LMFAO, her latest album features Future of all people.

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  203. Romanian says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    I had no idea who Taylor Swift was until I saw her in a promo for Black Rifle Coffee. Boy is she beautiful.
     
    While she is not my ideal (that would be Marilyn Monroe in the pool scenes for her last, unfinished movie, maybe with just a little more boobage) Taylor is an elegant and very attractive woman and obviously not stupid either. Assuming she has birthworthy bone structure I hope she has three or four kids before she is too old and eggrot sets in.

    You do not know how right you are in the birthworthy bone structure.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-38210837

    The regular use of Caesarean sections is having an impact on human evolution, say scientists.
    More mothers now need surgery to deliver a baby due to their narrow pelvis size, according to a study.
    Researchers estimate cases where the baby cannot fit down the birth canal have increased from 30 in 1,000 in the 1960s to 36 in 1,000 births today.
    Historically, these genes would not have been passed from mother to child as both would have died in labour.
    Researchers in Austria say the trend is likely to continue, but not to the extent that non-surgical births will become obsolete.

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    Is that an implicit call for letting women die in childbirth to purify the gene pool?
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  204. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Anonymous
    http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2017/11/blind-item-4_12.html

    With one tweet, this A+ list singer could put a stop to the homophobic slurs her fans are heaping on this openly gay foreign born A list singer. She won't though. She loves it and won't ever say a word to protect him or stop her fans. If her fans only knew the truth about her.
     

    I just can’t see TS as a mussypuncher, but then again I am not the best observer of these things.

    Joan Jett didn’t surprise me but that’s been widely known since the mid-80s.

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  205. JimB says:

    Alanna Bennett looks like a younger Rachel Dolezal. She is either mixed race or trying to pass as diverse. In either case, this is yet another example of Sailer’s Law of Female Journalists:

    Standards of beauty must be changed by fiat so that the garbled physiognomies and dumpy bodies of progressive female journalists are celebrated on the front page of fashion magazines. Furthermore, all guys must find them desirable.

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  206. @El Dato
    But first we have to confuse (((Seele))) so that the Human Instrumentality Project can achieve its TRUE objective. And then she dies messily while fighting the fight of the last stabd in any case.

    No wait, that's another series...

    Are we talking about the 90s iteration or the recent one?

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  207. @Big Bill
    Regarding the Taylor Swift photo, when and where do girls learn that toes-tucked-in, bent-knee, half-turned, knees-perfectly-overlapping, look-at-my-ass-it's-so-fine posture for photos? In middle school? At beauty-queen competitions? Cheerleader training?

    I recently looked at several generations worth of family photos and didn't find one of them with this "come hither" posture. I get the Marilyn Monroe/Jane Mansfield/Kardashian shoulders-hunched-together, forward-leaning, head-tossed-back, boobs-falling-out posture. It's a pretty straight-forward, take-a-look-at-these-big-puppies-I-am-pouring into your-lap sex pose, but the Taylor Swift posture seems much more complicated and asymmetric.

    Any comments, ladies?

    My wife does that. Years ago I laughed and asked her what it was about. She said it had something to do with taking ballet classes while growing up in Europe, and that it makes women look slimmer and more graceful. Every woman we know over there seems to do this when we take pictures with them.

    I don’t think it’s very common in America except among models and performers who have learned it. My impression is that it is too traditionally female to fit into our culture.

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  208. zolof says:

    I would never buy a Taylor Swift album, I don’t watch her videos as soon as they come out, and generally pay no mind to Taylor Swift, since she doesn’t interest me in any way. Doesn’t mean I can’t cough up some hasty opinions from glimpses of her over the years.

    I think Taylor Swift is authentic. She’s not shallow, but she’s not that deep, either. She’s a planner and a doer. Doesn’t spend a lot of time reflecting regularly. No time. She probably works out with light weights regularly. Nothing fancy. Doesn’t worry about how she looks that much, but works with what she has. A talented technician, okay song writer, but again, not a lot of insight, but not because she’s stupid. It’s just how she rolls. She’s receptive and kind to her fanbase, to a fault. She also seems to have a well developed sense of humor, and is loyal to her friends. She talks a bit of shit about guys, but I’d say her insulation from a lot of things make her boyfriends play heavier on her than it would otherwise.

    I think her butt is fine. It’s certainly not flat. It’s about right. Everything about her is about right, without being too much. For her age, she’s unbelievably successful, and not by accident. AND she hasn’t melted down once over anything on camera.

    What the hell’s not to like about Taylor Swift?

    She may not write and produce songs of Madonna quality, but then she doesn’t ACT like Madonna, either. She’s fairly quiet until she’s about to roll her shit out. I like that.

    Meanwhile… we have a woman who looks somewhat black, and looks like the other half is jewish, so she’s ahead of many of her peers socially, as is a very advantageous place to start, in professional life. Going by her recent twitter remarks, she’s apparently living in the hell of emotional insecurity and racial confusion.

    She’s mediocre looking, not attractive. Her twitter profile picture is overcooked, and doesn’t really look like her, so not being good looking bother’s her. She doesn’t want to look like your friend’s geeky little sister. She can’t write think pieces because she’s not that bright, is not self-contained, and an undisciplined logician, if that was ever a goal in the first place. She apparently can’t play an instrument, write a song, compel an audience, and going by her tweets, isn’t a big fan of life.

    I think if Taylor Swift just keeps being Taylor Swift, her detractor’s who take time off from wishing they were dead by writing ridiculous rants about Taylor Swift will fall away under the weight of their own self contempt. It always comes back to the self-contempt.

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    She’s receptive and kind to her fanbase, to a fault.

    Taylor Swift built her fanbase in part by devoting a huge amount of effort to autograph-signing and the like, forging a feeling of personal connection with vast numbers of fans. Some celebrities are amazing at how they can make fans feel good about themselves. For example, my son met rock star drummer Dave Grohl (Nirvana and Foo Fighters) when he was 13 and briefly talked to him, and then a year later Grohl remembered personal stuff my son had mentioned.

    , @Reg Cæsar

    She’s receptive...
     
    Yikes! Freddie Mercury just came to mind...

    Careful with your choice of words.
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  209. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Alec Leamas

    I think Taylor Swift’s beauty (and yes she is beautiful by many measures) has really helped her singing career A LOT. If she was fat and ugly she would not have had the success that she has had even if she had the same musical talents.
     
    Swift packages a whole brand in which her look is a sine qua non: pretty but girlish look, girlie-girl persona, lyrics that appeal to teen girls, etc. Even though she's pretty, she's not otherworldly pretty - teen girls can imagine her being one of their eleventh grade circle of friends.

    Adele is an interesting case - she has paramount vocal talent, she's pretty and she's chubby. (IIRC, she'd slimmed down from fat to Rubenesque as she's found herself more in the public eye). Adele is only two years Swift's senior, but her persona is much more mature (though when she stops singing and speaks you'd swear you were hearing a Nineteenth Century London Chimney Sweep).

    I think any woman with great talent who is fat and ugly would get stuck as a studio/session musician and backing vocalist.

    I was reading the prior comment and actually thinking about Adele myself. I think her vocal ability might be the best of any of the female stars mentioned, and from what I’ve read she seems to have put forth enormous effort. She strikes me as a somewhat fatter girl who is smart enough to know that she has genuine vocal skills that need to be developed, and goes for it. All respect to her. I like her. (I’m not the least bit interested in her political views, though…)

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  210. @zolof
    I would never buy a Taylor Swift album, I don't watch her videos as soon as they come out, and generally pay no mind to Taylor Swift, since she doesn't interest me in any way. Doesn't mean I can't cough up some hasty opinions from glimpses of her over the years.

    I think Taylor Swift is authentic. She's not shallow, but she's not that deep, either. She's a planner and a doer. Doesn't spend a lot of time reflecting regularly. No time. She probably works out with light weights regularly. Nothing fancy. Doesn't worry about how she looks that much, but works with what she has. A talented technician, okay song writer, but again, not a lot of insight, but not because she's stupid. It's just how she rolls. She's receptive and kind to her fanbase, to a fault. She also seems to have a well developed sense of humor, and is loyal to her friends. She talks a bit of shit about guys, but I'd say her insulation from a lot of things make her boyfriends play heavier on her than it would otherwise.

    I think her butt is fine. It's certainly not flat. It's about right. Everything about her is about right, without being too much. For her age, she's unbelievably successful, and not by accident. AND she hasn't melted down once over anything on camera.

    What the hell's not to like about Taylor Swift?

    She may not write and produce songs of Madonna quality, but then she doesn't ACT like Madonna, either. She's fairly quiet until she's about to roll her shit out. I like that.

    Meanwhile... we have a woman who looks somewhat black, and looks like the other half is jewish, so she's ahead of many of her peers socially, as is a very advantageous place to start, in professional life. Going by her recent twitter remarks, she's apparently living in the hell of emotional insecurity and racial confusion.

    She's mediocre looking, not attractive. Her twitter profile picture is overcooked, and doesn't really look like her, so not being good looking bother's her. She doesn't want to look like your friend's geeky little sister. She can't write think pieces because she's not that bright, is not self-contained, and an undisciplined logician, if that was ever a goal in the first place. She apparently can't play an instrument, write a song, compel an audience, and going by her tweets, isn't a big fan of life.

    I think if Taylor Swift just keeps being Taylor Swift, her detractor's who take time off from wishing they were dead by writing ridiculous rants about Taylor Swift will fall away under the weight of their own self contempt. It always comes back to the self-contempt.

    She’s receptive and kind to her fanbase, to a fault.

    Taylor Swift built her fanbase in part by devoting a huge amount of effort to autograph-signing and the like, forging a feeling of personal connection with vast numbers of fans. Some celebrities are amazing at how they can make fans feel good about themselves. For example, my son met rock star drummer Dave Grohl (Nirvana and Foo Fighters) when he was 13 and briefly talked to him, and then a year later Grohl remembered personal stuff my son had mentioned.

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  211. guest says:
    @Romanian
    You do not know how right you are in the birthworthy bone structure.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-38210837

    The regular use of Caesarean sections is having an impact on human evolution, say scientists.
    More mothers now need surgery to deliver a baby due to their narrow pelvis size, according to a study.
    Researchers estimate cases where the baby cannot fit down the birth canal have increased from 30 in 1,000 in the 1960s to 36 in 1,000 births today.
    Historically, these genes would not have been passed from mother to child as both would have died in labour.
    Researchers in Austria say the trend is likely to continue, but not to the extent that non-surgical births will become obsolete.
     

    Is that an implicit call for letting women die in childbirth to purify the gene pool?

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    I would find that repellent and so would everyone else, but encouraging women who know their pelvis is not birthworthy to not have (more) babies is different than "letting them die".
    , @Romanian
    Of course not, I am a natalist. And how would it be purifying? You need a theory of purity for that (ancestry, race etc) and I doubt event he most insane society would have one based on (not) having narrow hips. But it is interesting to see how we are evolving. Does this count as gene culture co-evolution?
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  212. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @guest
    Is that an implicit call for letting women die in childbirth to purify the gene pool?

    I would find that repellent and so would everyone else, but encouraging women who know their pelvis is not birthworthy to not have (more) babies is different than “letting them die”.

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    Given how few children women are having on average, it would be enough to focus especially on the ones with appropriate hips to have more. And I think people intrinsically understand that, like when older people comment on how someone "can have a large family".
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  213. …an election that brought conversations about sexism and white supremacy to the forefront of everyday politics.

    Yeah, we almost returned rape culture to the White House. But we dodged that bullet.

    And in 2017, she is still absenting herself from the cultural conversation while simultaneously trying to center herself in it.

    Shouldn’t this outfit be called Bullfeed?

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  214. @zolof
    I would never buy a Taylor Swift album, I don't watch her videos as soon as they come out, and generally pay no mind to Taylor Swift, since she doesn't interest me in any way. Doesn't mean I can't cough up some hasty opinions from glimpses of her over the years.

    I think Taylor Swift is authentic. She's not shallow, but she's not that deep, either. She's a planner and a doer. Doesn't spend a lot of time reflecting regularly. No time. She probably works out with light weights regularly. Nothing fancy. Doesn't worry about how she looks that much, but works with what she has. A talented technician, okay song writer, but again, not a lot of insight, but not because she's stupid. It's just how she rolls. She's receptive and kind to her fanbase, to a fault. She also seems to have a well developed sense of humor, and is loyal to her friends. She talks a bit of shit about guys, but I'd say her insulation from a lot of things make her boyfriends play heavier on her than it would otherwise.

    I think her butt is fine. It's certainly not flat. It's about right. Everything about her is about right, without being too much. For her age, she's unbelievably successful, and not by accident. AND she hasn't melted down once over anything on camera.

    What the hell's not to like about Taylor Swift?

    She may not write and produce songs of Madonna quality, but then she doesn't ACT like Madonna, either. She's fairly quiet until she's about to roll her shit out. I like that.

    Meanwhile... we have a woman who looks somewhat black, and looks like the other half is jewish, so she's ahead of many of her peers socially, as is a very advantageous place to start, in professional life. Going by her recent twitter remarks, she's apparently living in the hell of emotional insecurity and racial confusion.

    She's mediocre looking, not attractive. Her twitter profile picture is overcooked, and doesn't really look like her, so not being good looking bother's her. She doesn't want to look like your friend's geeky little sister. She can't write think pieces because she's not that bright, is not self-contained, and an undisciplined logician, if that was ever a goal in the first place. She apparently can't play an instrument, write a song, compel an audience, and going by her tweets, isn't a big fan of life.

    I think if Taylor Swift just keeps being Taylor Swift, her detractor's who take time off from wishing they were dead by writing ridiculous rants about Taylor Swift will fall away under the weight of their own self contempt. It always comes back to the self-contempt.

    She’s receptive…

    Yikes! Freddie Mercury just came to mind…

    Careful with your choice of words.

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  215. @Forbes

    I wonder how Stallone got away with making these movies.
     
    Stallone got Rocky (1976) green lighted for bringing in a $1 million budget. It did $225 million at the box office.

    Given the movies were mostly made in the 70s/80s time period, there’s a subtle racial subtext to all of this.
     
    Actually not. That's 2017 revisionism. If you go looking for racial subtext, you're gonna find racial subtext.

    While denied by Stallone, Rocky is assumed to be inspired by the 1975 Chuck Wepner v Muhammad Ali fight, where Wepner went 15 rounds with Ali. Other influences for the storyline are surmised. Wepner won an undisclosed lawsuit settlement from Stallone.

    It’s assumed to be partly based on Wepner because Stallone, on the DVD special of Rocky some yrs back, admitted that Rocky was partially based on the fight. He had watched it on TV in mid. 70′s and used that as a basic story premise. If he had credited the fight (or heroic underdog performance by Wepner going the distance vs Ali), Wepner probably wouldn’t have minded.

    But Stallone straight up admitted that it was partially based on Wepner.

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  216. @Anonymous

    I had no idea who Taylor Swift was until I saw her in a promo for Black Rifle Coffee. Boy is she beautiful.
     
    While she is not my ideal (that would be Marilyn Monroe in the pool scenes for her last, unfinished movie, maybe with just a little more boobage) Taylor is an elegant and very attractive woman and obviously not stupid either. Assuming she has birthworthy bone structure I hope she has three or four kids before she is too old and eggrot sets in.

    Assuming she has birthworthy bone structure I hope she has three or four kids before she is too old and eggrot sets in.

    Sara Blakely, who resembles Taylor and is even richer, is the perfect role model:

    http://www.businessinsider.com/spanx-founder-sara-blakely-redefine-failure-2016-10

    Not that we can expect Taylor to marry an Itzler (especially one whose looks fit the name), considering the pop trash she’s been dating and mining for lyrics.

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  217. @Jack Hanson
    Gaga was classically trained at Julliard, so she definitely gets how music works and is formed.

    I think she got seriously side tracked when she became a gay icon and let that get to her head, putting out some real turds "with a message" versus her first record which was fun pop stuff.

    Gaga was classically trained at Julliard, so she definitely gets how music works and is formed.

    Tony Bennett, no small talent himself for a piano singer, did a Christmas record with her several eyars ago. He raved over her studio skills, her professionalism, her formal musical training. On Stern’s show one morning, he said a lot of folks can play the notes, but Gaga makes the music. High praise.

    I still think she’s a nitwit with stories to tell, but ya gotta hand it to her for turning it into all that Dough-Ray-Meeee!

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    Tony Bennett, no small talent himself for a piano singer, did a Christmas record with her several eyars ago. He raved over her studio skills, her professionalism, her formal musical training. On Stern’s show one morning, he said a lot of folks can play the notes, but Gaga makes the music. High praise.
     
    Here are a couple of videos. One is of Stephanie Germanotta singing somewhere in lower Manhattan before she invented the Lady Gaga club act and the other, clips of her singing in her natural singing voice.

    https://youtu.be/NM51qOpwcIM

    https://youtu.be/ien38Lw2OLw?t=52s
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  218. sb says:

    OK . Gotcha ( I think )

    It’s not OK for Taylor Smith or whatever his name is to be white but it is OK for Michael Jackson to be white .

    Phew! -It’s hard going keeping up with the Zeitgiest

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  219. Yada yada says:

    A negro….I knew it. She and Taylor should have a math competition to settle the problem. Anna can show us just how ignorant she is.

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  220. Romanian says: • Website
    @guest
    Is that an implicit call for letting women die in childbirth to purify the gene pool?

    Of course not, I am a natalist. And how would it be purifying? You need a theory of purity for that (ancestry, race etc) and I doubt event he most insane society would have one based on (not) having narrow hips. But it is interesting to see how we are evolving. Does this count as gene culture co-evolution?

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  221. Romanian says: • Website
    @Anonymous
    I would find that repellent and so would everyone else, but encouraging women who know their pelvis is not birthworthy to not have (more) babies is different than "letting them die".

    Given how few children women are having on average, it would be enough to focus especially on the ones with appropriate hips to have more. And I think people intrinsically understand that, like when older people comment on how someone “can have a large family”.

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  222. Yada yada says:

    Dear negros and Jews, we really couldn’t care less what you think of us. We know you’re jealous about your lack of accomplishments (unless acting as a parasite counts as an accomplishment) and our development of a highly sophisticated civilization. You’re welcome.

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  223. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @AndrewR
    The target audience for that Kid Rock video has got to be people with IQs under 90.

    … people with IQs under 90 … matter too!

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  224. Bill says:
    @Not Raul
    Can someone tell me how someone who is white can avoid being "aggressively white"? I'm asking for a friend.

    Die.

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  225. @JohnnyWalker123
    This song is popular with cocky young white men.

    The type of guys who join the Air Force academy, frats, and lacross teams.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siwpn14IE7E

    Simon and Garfunkel is the type of music that Bernie Brahs like. Not surprisingly, the Bernie campaign ran one of their song in this ad.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nwRiuh1Cug

    That was a deeply successful Bernie ad, the kind of appeal that would have won the election in IA, OH, (western) PA, WI, MN, and—of course—MI.

    It’s worth watching carefully. Bernie’s whole platform of progressive values aimed at core America instead of the fringes was a brilliant gambit. Just couldn’t overcome the vibrant diversity machine, though.

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  226. Bill says:
    @International Jew
    Could someone provide a Taylor Swift primer? I've heard the name and I knew she was in show business but that's all I know.
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  227. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Chrisnonymous
    Did he get a disease?

    Marrying a black woman is going to be an antidote for the royal family. No one can say they are aggressively white anymore.

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  228. Tiny Duck says:

    I hope Taylor Swift gets rogered by a Black Man and has a mixed race child

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  229. Judging by he symbolism on Swift’s latest music video, I believe the Illuminati have promoted her to a higher level. In the future, Swift will be more focused on subversive activities for the Illuminati than in her music.

    Hillary needed the power of the Illuminati to win the election and failed to get their support. It is all Swift’s fault.

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  230. @RonaldB
    There are actually two reasons not to pay any attention to the political statements of artists, even though they are very intelligent, as you pointed out.

    One reason is that an intelligent view on most issues takes some knowledge and thought, which as you also pointed out, artists simply don't have time for. The best use of their time is to spend it on their art, which may reflect popular culture, but which is not the same as a reasoned commentary. They simply don't know enough at make intelligent comments, which is nothing against them.

    A second reason is that intelligence is general but also specific, and artists do not necessarily have the specific abilities necessary for a reasoned discussion. It can be argued that art comes from an emotional and intuitive base, rather than a logical base. So, art is a completely different pursuit from political analysis. Viva la difference.

    Let me add a third reason: artists want to be popular, so it doesn’t pay to express the kind of opinions that make one unpopular with the media, AKA interesting opinions.

    I recall that during the Lewinsky scandal, a reporter asked Tom Hanks what he thought of Clinton’s behavior and he said it was disgusting. Well, Steve Spielberg, who has given Hanks most of his best roles, is a BFF of the Clintons, so a few days later Hanks busily back-pedaled his remarks. I guess Spielberg expressed concerns.

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  231. Truth says:

    Is it OK for him to be male?

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    You're pretty mad she's still 1000x the woman Beyonce is huh?
    , @Truth
    No, she's a dude too.
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  232. Olorin says:
    @Not Raul
    Can someone tell me how someone who is white can avoid being "aggressively white"? I'm asking for a friend.

    Go reverse Sammy Sosa and get yourself endarkenated.

    Oh wait, no. That’s racial appropriation.

    OK then. Sorry, you can’t avoid it. Third World mentalities are driven by scapegoat religion, autos da fe, female goddesses and the like.

    Welcome to Mount Cithaeron, white ram.

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  233. @Truth
    Is it OK for him to be male?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4BG8ajqRsY

    You’re pretty mad she’s still 1000x the woman Beyonce is huh?

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  234. Truth says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    Or maybe she's just a pop singer.

    They hate her because she's damn near perfect, as if she was built fifty years in the future by Japan's best fembot designers.

    And I don't even know a single one of her songs.

    Here's why they hate whiteness:

    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/f6/6b/b9/f66bb947e05f7a17bf7936bf41a344a2.jpg

    They hate her because she’s damn near perfect,

    Size 12 feet, and adam’s apple the size of the hope diamond and hands like an arc welder?

    Not my idea of perfection, Old Sport, but it is a free country.

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  235. Truth says:
    @Truth
    Is it OK for him to be male?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4BG8ajqRsY

    No, she’s a dude too.

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  236. Mr. Anon says:
    @El Dato
    Isn't it more like a parody ... Weird Al singing about his Pentiums comes to mind:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpMvS1Q1sos

    (back when having a "T1 line in your house" (1.544 Mbit/s) was the costly sheeeeet)

    I often find I like the Weird Al parody songs – just considered musically – better than the songs he parodies.

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  237. You must be thinking of Michael Obama. Oops, sorry, I mean Michelle.

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    As I have said multiple times, I'm thinking of both.

    But you and Priss Factor are allowed to choose which dudes you are attracted to, and I respect that. I just wish that you would allow me the courtesy to not be attracted to dudes at all. I am an unabashed hetrosexual and think I have earned that right.
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  238. Truth says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    You must be thinking of Michael Obama. Oops, sorry, I mean Michelle.

    http://www.lajme.gen.al/photos/11/12/michel-obama-ju-meson-te-visheni-si-nje-zonje-e-pare-foto-2.jpg

    As I have said multiple times, I’m thinking of both.

    But you and Priss Factor are allowed to choose which dudes you are attracted to, and I respect that. I just wish that you would allow me the courtesy to not be attracted to dudes at all. I am an unabashed hetrosexual and think I have earned that right.

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    I understand, Pravda. Some men with Tiny D*cks and inferiority complexes are intimidated by tall women.

    The Truth is, they're more comfortable with little skanks who wear pussy hats.

    The Miserable Left:
    https://myreelpov.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/lesmis-cosette.png

    The Deplorable Right:
    http://31.media.tumblr.com/fabf32dd320aba2486a5c82980691fe9/tumblr_mw3zdrXKxR1t16301o1_500.gif
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  239. @Truth
    As I have said multiple times, I'm thinking of both.

    But you and Priss Factor are allowed to choose which dudes you are attracted to, and I respect that. I just wish that you would allow me the courtesy to not be attracted to dudes at all. I am an unabashed hetrosexual and think I have earned that right.

    I understand, Pravda. Some men with Tiny D*cks and inferiority complexes are intimidated by tall women.

    The Truth is, they’re more comfortable with little skanks who wear pussy hats.

    The Miserable Left:

    The Deplorable Right:

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    Mr. Obama is taller than Mr. Swift, bro. So what are you trying to admit?

    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/05/27/04/291911F200000578-3098573-image-a-42_1432697138750.jpg

    I hate to cancel Christmas, my friend, but your slavemasters are about to tell you anyway. So get your bale in for the day.
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  240. Truth says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    I understand, Pravda. Some men with Tiny D*cks and inferiority complexes are intimidated by tall women.

    The Truth is, they're more comfortable with little skanks who wear pussy hats.

    The Miserable Left:
    https://myreelpov.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/lesmis-cosette.png

    The Deplorable Right:
    http://31.media.tumblr.com/fabf32dd320aba2486a5c82980691fe9/tumblr_mw3zdrXKxR1t16301o1_500.gif

    Mr. Obama is taller than Mr. Swift, bro. So what are you trying to admit?

    I hate to cancel Christmas, my friend, but your slavemasters are about to tell you anyway. So get your bale in for the day.

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    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/00/c8/7e/00c87e40f97b75dd8d33c2d29b4af23d--conservative-humor-political-corruption.jpg
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  241. Twinkie says:
    @El Dato

    Taylor Swift is the Min Mei of the AR.
     
    Is it bad that I got this reference. (How old am I ... of fuuu---)

    In Macross (and Robotech), Minmay is the love interest of the main character Hikaru Ichijyo (Rick Hunter in Robotech) and becomes an idol singer and film star on board the spacecraft SDF-1 Macross. Her songs, which cause confusion amongst alien Zentradi soldiers, play a critical role in Space War I against Boddole Zer's Zentradi fleet. ... In the Macross world, Minmay continues to be remembered decades after Space War I. Her songs are constantly cherished and she will always be known as the girl who ended a war by singing. In every Macross sequel (even the non-canon Macross II OVA and movie), Minmay is referred to either indirectly (through references of her songs) or explicitly.
     

    You nerds. Did you all play Dungeons and Dragons in high school?

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    "..play Dungeons and Dragons," he sneered, before heading off to Mathathletes.
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  242. ssohara says:
    @Mr White
    6 THINGS WHITE MALES SHOULD BE PROUD OF http://www.returnofkings.com/115515/6-things-white-males-should-be-proud-of

    I am not white or male and I agree… I don’t see why it’s so horrible to acknowledge reality. I am essentially libertarian and believe in the rights of the individual. what people of my ethnic group or my gender choose to do is not what _I_ am, I don’t like the group identity stuff anyway. But if you place any value on truth, it’s only logical to give credit to the people who created Western civilization, which anyone who values freedom will appreciate. Also give credit to Christianity, which began with Jesus, who was Jewish… without Christian values the world would be a much harsher place.

    This doesn’t mean in any way that we don’t also value the good things about other cultures, people, etc. I am glad when blacks, Asians, etc., have their contributions acknowledged. What I have an issue with is the deliberate and malicious devaluing of white people. Be fair, be impartial, be just. And also, white culture is not a monolith. Italian is different from British is different from Czech. The British Empire, for all it’s faults, brought a great deal of good to the world at large.

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  243. @Twinkie
    You nerds. Did you all play Dungeons and Dragons in high school?

    “..play Dungeons and Dragons,” he sneered, before heading off to Mathathletes.

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    Nope. Judo matches. I was nationally ranked.
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  244. Twinkie says:
    @Jack Hanson
    "..play Dungeons and Dragons," he sneered, before heading off to Mathathletes.

    Nope. Judo matches. I was nationally ranked.

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  245. Recondog says:
    @Not Raul
    Can someone tell me how someone who is white can avoid being "aggressively white"? I'm asking for a friend.

    It seems we are in the throes of a curious, annoying, perhaps fatal case of cultural Munchausen Syndrome. The point has been reached where the insane are making up windmills to tilt and non-problems to solve.
    Nothing good can or will ever come from this mass mental illness.

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  246. Switzerland is no longer an option. These kinds of articles from them create more “right wing radicals” a.ka. anyone right of Bernie. “WN and supremacy is on the rise!!!!

    Well, no shit. You keep throwing more people into that category and in the process diluting whatever the hell it actually meant. Now you are either with us or against us. That throws a bunch of people into the against us category who therefore become instant bigoted racist, sexist, etc.

    It also creates a new adjective to be attached to the current “white” in terms of being thrown around as a pejorative. They are creating differing levels of “bad” whites in order to determine who to direct the most scorn at with their somewhat limited time and resources. Prioritization indeed.

    I’m half-white. I wonder what category I’m in… hopefully the “aggressive” one.

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    I’m half-white. I wonder what category I’m in… hopefully the “aggressive” one.
     
    I'm neither white nor black. Nor am I "half-white", which my school art teacher taught me was a variable shade of grey.

    I could claim to be a person of colour, but that term seems to have been culturally appropriated.
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  247. Makey says:

    Something I don’t think anyone mentioned is that she is known for being one of the most generous and charitable celebrities. How awful. White and generous…doesn’t fit their narrative.

    A simple google search shows dozens of links going back a decade.

    https://www.fuse.tv/2016/09/taylor-swift-charity-donations

    https://www.looktothestars.org/celebrity/taylor-swift

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  248. Twinkie says:
    @Truth
    Mr. Obama is taller than Mr. Swift, bro. So what are you trying to admit?

    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/05/27/04/291911F200000578-3098573-image-a-42_1432697138750.jpg

    I hate to cancel Christmas, my friend, but your slavemasters are about to tell you anyway. So get your bale in for the day.

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  249. @Dave Pinsen
    The "1989 era" in this context refers to the time between the release of Swift's 1989 album and the next one.

    Could be. It’d also be a reason for this ostensibly professional writer to have learned in grammar school like the rest of us that the title of a novel, album, play, or similar lengthly work should be italicised, hence Taylor Swift’s 1989 is easily distinguishable from a reference to the year she was born. The titles of shorter works, like most poems, songs, and articles are placed in quotation marks. These rules don’t exist to annoy or confuse stupid people like this Negress (mulattto?); they actually facilitate clear communication, and they decrease confusion; yet there is no helping people as stupid as her….

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  250. @Twinkie

    aggressively white.
     
    I have a mental image of Swift in public screaming “white power!” in the faces of “people of color.” Is that what the author intended with the verbiage?

    I have a mental image of Swift in public screaming “white power!” in the faces of “people of color.” Is that what the author intended with the verbiage?

    Whatever the author intended, she was merely contributing to a “cultural conversation”: i.e. a one-sided political rant that is not a mutual exchange between two or more real people and has nothing to do with culture. IOW, neither cultural nor conversational.

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  251. @armenia4ever
    Switzerland is no longer an option. These kinds of articles from them create more "right wing radicals" a.ka. anyone right of Bernie. "WN and supremacy is on the rise!!!!"

    Well, no shit. You keep throwing more people into that category and in the process diluting whatever the hell it actually meant. Now you are either with us or against us. That throws a bunch of people into the against us category who therefore become instant bigoted racist, sexist, etc.

    It also creates a new adjective to be attached to the current "white" in terms of being thrown around as a pejorative. They are creating differing levels of "bad" whites in order to determine who to direct the most scorn at with their somewhat limited time and resources. Prioritization indeed.

    I'm half-white. I wonder what category I'm in... hopefully the "aggressive" one.

    I’m half-white. I wonder what category I’m in… hopefully the “aggressive” one.

    I’m neither white nor black. Nor am I “half-white”, which my school art teacher taught me was a variable shade of grey.

    I could claim to be a person of colour, but that term seems to have been culturally appropriated.

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  252. @BigMike
    Perhaps Taylor became disillusioned by the aggressive blackness shown when Kanye West grabbed the mic from her to complain that Beyonce should have won the Grammy.

    …the aggressive blackness shown when Kanye West grabbed the mic from her to complain that Beyonce should have won the Grammy.

    He didn’t want to “absent himself” from the “cultural conversation”.

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  253. Mike2343 says:

    A typical last resort for weak minded people with pathetic non-Western souls is to brand anyone who “does not concede to critics” as pathological; when the reality is that the core essence of the Western mind is the ability to stay true to one’s belief in metaphysical ideals. This sometimes can take mere expression in a refusal to accept self-proclaimed victory or hegemony from the human and moral equivalent of vermin. Anyone championing degenerate Niki Minaj as Swift’s better reflection would certainly fit that description.

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  254. @Jim Christian

    Gaga was classically trained at Julliard, so she definitely gets how music works and is formed.
     
    Tony Bennett, no small talent himself for a piano singer, did a Christmas record with her several eyars ago. He raved over her studio skills, her professionalism, her formal musical training. On Stern's show one morning, he said a lot of folks can play the notes, but Gaga makes the music. High praise.

    I still think she's a nitwit with stories to tell, but ya gotta hand it to her for turning it into all that Dough-Ray-Meeee!

    Tony Bennett, no small talent himself for a piano singer, did a Christmas record with her several eyars ago. He raved over her studio skills, her professionalism, her formal musical training. On Stern’s show one morning, he said a lot of folks can play the notes, but Gaga makes the music. High praise.

    Here are a couple of videos. One is of Stephanie Germanotta singing somewhere in lower Manhattan before she invented the Lady Gaga club act and the other, clips of her singing in her natural singing voice.

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