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As you can see, more server problems today …

Here’s an old post that got lost in the previous hosting company ball-dropping.

From Vox:

“Schools are segregated because white people want them that way”

Nikole Hannah-Jones on the persistence of segregation in American life.
Updated by Sean Illing@seanillingsean.illing@vox.com Oct 26, 2017, 8:50am EDT

“Schools are segregated because white people want them that way. … We won’t fix this problem until we really wrestle with that fact.”

That’s what Nikole Hannah-Jones, New York Times Magazine writer and recipient of a prestigious “genius grant,” told me in a recent interview. “Genius grant” is the popular term for the MacArthur fellowship, a no-strings-attached $625,000 grant awarded to 24 “exceptionally creative people” each year.

Hannah-Jones was selected this year for her probing work on segregation in American society, particularly in housing and education. She’s probably best known for her two award-winning stories “Choosing a School for My Daughter in a Segregated City” and “The Problem We All Live With.”

The big problem we all live with in the American K-12 educational system is that we are running out of white children. As we all know, white children are magic. Just by assigning them to classrooms we can solve the problems that the nonwhite children bring to those classrooms. But we don’t have enough white children to go around anymore to solve everybody else’s problems.

There are a lot of different systems that would work okay if K-12 students were, say, 75% white/Asian (much like American 4-year colleges work pretty well under a lot of different systems for organizing them).

But That’s Not Who We Are … anymore.

 
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  1. Well, I guess I don’t understand. We need more black school boards, teachers and administrators, but in the majority black cities that’s what you have. While looking at Ohio State’s football roster I saw there was an Africentric School in Columbus, Ohio. So, I guess the answer is all black schools if that’s what blacks want but not white schools, because that’s not what blacks want. And, how long before Columbus, Ohio has to change its name.

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  2. Nikole Hannah-Jones’s mother is white. Something she does not mention in her writing.

    I grew up in Waterloo, Iowa, on the wrong side of the river that divided white from black, opportunity from struggle, and started my education in a low-income school that my mother says was distressingly chaotic. I don’t recall it being bad, but I do remember just one white child in my first-grade class, though there may have been more. That summer, my mom and dad enrolled my older sister and me in the school district’s voluntary desegregation program, which allowed some black kids to leave their neighborhood schools for whiter, more well off ones on the west side of town. … My parents chose one of the whitest, richest schools, thinking it would provide the best opportunities for us. Starting in second grade, I rode the bus an hour each morning across town to the “best” public school my town had to offer, Kingsley Elementary, where I was among the tiny number of working-class children and the even tinier number of black children. (LINK)

    Hannah-Jones grew up in Waterloo, Iowa, to father Milton Hannah, who is African-American, and mother Cheryl A. Novotny, who is of Czech and English descent. She is the second of three sisters. In 1947, when her father was two years old, his family moved to Iowa from Greenwood, Mississippi, in the Mississippi Delta region, along with many other African-American families. (LINK)

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    A lot of mixed race people, who grow in an area with very little black people, overcompensate by becoming obsessed with their blackness. Just ask Obama.
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  3. Maybe you should get a hosting company that has real time backup. It’s not that hard to do.

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  4. Yak-15 says:

    OT:

    But speaking of choosing self-segregation… the Chinese community in Chicago’s Chinatown only rents to other Chinese and keeps everyone else out using Chinese language fliers and the like.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/chicago/comments/79jgtj/why_chicagos_chinatown_is_invisible_in_the_online/

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  5. This renewed push for “desegregated” schools is being led by the wealthy, billionaires in particular, most of whom now fund education media. They want more black teachers and classrooms desegregated not only by race, but income, intellectual disabilites, and multiple social dysfuntions like homelessness and parents in prison. This will create chaos and force the good families out of traditional public schools making it easy for schools to be converted into public charter schools in order to “fix” the problem. This is what happened in New Orleans, only New Orleans was naturally occuring and this desegration movement is planned.

    Motives for dismantling traditional public schools vary: to sell software and collect data (Gates, Zuckerberg, Hastings), prayer in school (DeVos), and compliant drone-like workers (the Walton family)

    Mark Zuckerberg is currently struggling to get a charter school in San Francisco. Both he and Bill Gates sell software in Africa and India — a non-professional teacher is given a tablet that tells what to say to the children minute by minute. The hope is to have children in the US taught mostly by computer overseen by a low-paid lab tech instead of a teacher — no more unions.

    Netflix is currently broadcasting a new school desegregation video, “Teach Us All”. Netflix founder Reed Hastings is invested in a company that sells education software. Although director Ava DuVernay did not make “Teach Us All”, she is heavily involved in promoting the film. While DuVernay does have two black parents, she graduated from a Catholic girls’ high school, does not have children nor any particular knowledge about education.

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    As you can see, more server problems today …

    Can’t find any of the comments, just the two missing posts Jeff Bezos Becomes Richest Man in the World and The Coalition of the Fringes in Action:

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ChUKr6oQ4AEJ:http://www.unz.com/isteve/%2Bunz.com/isteve/

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    What happened to the Weinstein-Wieseltier post about Jews leaving Europe?

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  8. 2017 average SAT scores by race and ethnicity. Native American Indians took a major hit, but no one cares about them anyway. Their average scores are now below Hispanics and close to blacks. All other groups had the expected rise in scores.

    https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2017/09/27/scores-new-sat-show-large-gaps-race-and-ethnicity

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  9. Tiny Duck says:

    Thins would be so much easier if white people didn’t exist

    But if they insist to exist they must not resist to share the hoarded wealth

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    Thins would be so much easier if white people didn’t exist
     
    Sadly I'm responding to Mr. Troll, but public education system wouldn't even exist without people of European ancestry. It was the Prussian education system that America largely adopted for it's public school system with leading advocates like Horace Mann, yea a White guy. White American women were huge proponents of public schools, maybe they just wanted to get the kids out of the house for awhile. But I'm sure if us evil White men had just left Africa alone they would have created the best public school system ever and then gone on to inventing the telephone, electrical lighting, aircraft, the internal combustion engine, vacuum tubes, transistors, microchips, moon landings and on and on......................................
    , @Evocatus
    Hey Tiny, what about the Irish--are they white?
    , @Jus' Sayin'...

    "But if they insist to exist they must not resist to share the hoarded wealth"
     
    TD: Your lampoons of White SJW rants are usually spot on. But this attempt to feign a Negro underclass level of incompetence with written English is not working. Please stick with what you're good at so you can continue to entertain.
    , @fish
    Ohs Tinys……you sho be rite…..thins would be ez-er…..much ez-er.



    - The Magnifico Leonhearted Pittsarrrrrdo!
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  10. I wonder how many educated liberal White parents actually understand how much there fighting against there own broader politic. Maybe they do understand, but there virtual signaling provides just enough cover to pacify the coalition of the fringes so they get their kids the education they want them to have.

    In my large city education district we have a couple of Expeditionary Learning charter schools. Plenty of Volvo’s with Obama stickers but the school itself much Whiter then the surrounding school district. One of the high schools has a International Baccalaureate program. You can call that the Asian/White section of the school. Not to mention the Science/Tech and Art’s specialty schools. Finally the elementary schools in the mostly White and gentrified neighborhoods have incredibly zealous White and Asian mothers virtually signalling there I hate Trump all the way but are fund raising guru’s that makes sure there school has what it needs.

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  11. @Tiny Duck
    Thins would be so much easier if white people didn't exist

    But if they insist to exist they must not resist to share the hoarded wealth

    Thins would be so much easier if white people didn’t exist

    Sadly I’m responding to Mr. Troll, but public education system wouldn’t even exist without people of European ancestry. It was the Prussian education system that America largely adopted for it’s public school system with leading advocates like Horace Mann, yea a White guy. White American women were huge proponents of public schools, maybe they just wanted to get the kids out of the house for awhile. But I’m sure if us evil White men had just left Africa alone they would have created the best public school system ever and then gone on to inventing the telephone, electrical lighting, aircraft, the internal combustion engine, vacuum tubes, transistors, microchips, moon landings and on and on………………………………..

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  12. Evocatus says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Thins would be so much easier if white people didn't exist

    But if they insist to exist they must not resist to share the hoarded wealth

    Hey Tiny, what about the Irish–are they white?

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  13. @Tiny Duck
    Thins would be so much easier if white people didn't exist

    But if they insist to exist they must not resist to share the hoarded wealth

    “But if they insist to exist they must not resist to share the hoarded wealth”

    TD: Your lampoons of White SJW rants are usually spot on. But this attempt to feign a Negro underclass level of incompetence with written English is not working. Please stick with what you’re good at so you can continue to entertain.

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  14. JohnnyD says:
    @Triumph104
    Nikole Hannah-Jones's mother is white. Something she does not mention in her writing.


    I grew up in Waterloo, Iowa, on the wrong side of the river that divided white from black, opportunity from struggle, and started my education in a low-income school that my mother says was distressingly chaotic. I don’t recall it being bad, but I do remember just one white child in my first-grade class, though there may have been more. That summer, my mom and dad enrolled my older sister and me in the school district’s voluntary desegregation program, which allowed some black kids to leave their neighborhood schools for whiter, more well off ones on the west side of town. ... My parents chose one of the whitest, richest schools, thinking it would provide the best opportunities for us. Starting in second grade, I rode the bus an hour each morning across town to the “best” public school my town had to offer, Kingsley Elementary, where I was among the tiny number of working-class children and the even tinier number of black children. (LINK)
     
    Hannah-Jones grew up in Waterloo, Iowa, to father Milton Hannah, who is African-American, and mother Cheryl A. Novotny, who is of Czech and English descent. She is the second of three sisters. In 1947, when her father was two years old, his family moved to Iowa from Greenwood, Mississippi, in the Mississippi Delta region, along with many other African-American families. (LINK)

    A lot of mixed race people, who grow in an area with very little black people, overcompensate by becoming obsessed with their blackness. Just ask Obama.

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    Yup. Colin Kaepernick is another example.
    , @Ed
    So true and Nikole suffers from a serious bout of it. There’s another Black writer that is similarly afflicted, her name is Jesmone Harris or something. She wrote a piece in Vox that “acting white” is a myth.
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  15. fish says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Thins would be so much easier if white people didn't exist

    But if they insist to exist they must not resist to share the hoarded wealth

    Ohs Tinys……you sho be rite…..thins would be ez-er…..much ez-er.

    - The Magnifico Leonhearted Pittsarrrrrdo!

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  16. All ethnic groups self-segregate to some degree. Search for “racial dot maps”.

    I personally know two US born hispanic families who speak fluent English yet insist on getting Spanish-language schooling for their children to preserve their linguistic culture and they move to neighborhoods that offer that. That’s obvious deliberate ethnic segregation.

    I know white ultra-liberals with kids who had some bad experience in a bad neighborhood, and moved to a nicer, less poor, more ethnically white neighborhood. They were honest enough to admit that they were segregating. They were trying to move to a well behaved neighborhood, but those neighborhoods in their area were generally largely ethnically white, so that’s where they moved. They were also enough to admit that their actions were counter to their political ideology. I didn’t press the issue… IMO, I believe in Christian kindness, but you should put your children’s needs ahead of those of strangers, and absolutely segregate to a nice neighborhood. That’s not some moral dilemna. Still try to help others, donate some time+money, etc.

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    It’s hard to get overtly political about issues involving kids in a social setting. Still if you could have pointed out to the fleeing white couple, that not everyone can afford to move away, that might have yielded a breakthrough in their thinking.
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  17. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    OT White people to the back of the theatre in Canada. Full price ticket or not.
    “I am never surprised at white fragility.”

    https://www.halifaxtoday.ca/local-news/i-am-never-surprised-at-white-fragility-halifax-pop-explosion-performer-on-overt-racism-at-her-concert-751009

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  18. @JohnnyD
    A lot of mixed race people, who grow in an area with very little black people, overcompensate by becoming obsessed with their blackness. Just ask Obama.

    Yup. Colin Kaepernick is another example.

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  19. Ed says:
    @JohnnyD
    A lot of mixed race people, who grow in an area with very little black people, overcompensate by becoming obsessed with their blackness. Just ask Obama.

    So true and Nikole suffers from a serious bout of it. There’s another Black writer that is similarly afflicted, her name is Jesmone Harris or something. She wrote a piece in Vox that “acting white” is a myth.

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  20. Ed says:
    @Massimo Heitor
    All ethnic groups self-segregate to some degree. Search for "racial dot maps".

    I personally know two US born hispanic families who speak fluent English yet insist on getting Spanish-language schooling for their children to preserve their linguistic culture and they move to neighborhoods that offer that. That's obvious deliberate ethnic segregation.

    I know white ultra-liberals with kids who had some bad experience in a bad neighborhood, and moved to a nicer, less poor, more ethnically white neighborhood. They were honest enough to admit that they were segregating. They were trying to move to a well behaved neighborhood, but those neighborhoods in their area were generally largely ethnically white, so that's where they moved. They were also enough to admit that their actions were counter to their political ideology. I didn't press the issue... IMO, I believe in Christian kindness, but you should put your children's needs ahead of those of strangers, and absolutely segregate to a nice neighborhood. That's not some moral dilemna. Still try to help others, donate some time+money, etc.

    It’s hard to get overtly political about issues involving kids in a social setting. Still if you could have pointed out to the fleeing white couple, that not everyone can afford to move away, that might have yielded a breakthrough in their thinking.

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  21. MarcB. says:

    White survival strategies continue to trump Good White platitudes.

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