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From the New York Times:

Liberal Parents, Radical Children
The generation gap returns.

By David Brooks
Opinion Columnist, Nov. 26, 2018

When I meet someone who runs an organization in a blue state, I often ask: Do you have a generation gap where you work? The answer — whether the person leads a college, a nonprofit, a tech company, an entertainment company or a publication — is generally the same: Yes, and it’s massive.

The managers at these places, who are generally 35 and above, are liberals. They vote Democratic and cheer on all the proper causes of the left. But some of the people under 35 are not liberals, but rather are militant progressives. The older people in the organization often have nicknames for the younger set: the Resistance, Al Jazeera, the revolutionaries. The young militants are the ones who stage the protests if someone does something deemed wrong.

If a company fires an employee for writing an inappropriate memo or uttering an inappropriate phrase, it’s usually because there’s been a youth revolt. If a speaker is disinvited from a festival or from campus, it’s often because of a youth revolt. If a writer is fired for a tweet, or an editor has to resign from a literary review because of an unacceptable article, it’s often because of a youth revolt.

A simple explanation for this pattern is that older people in America tend to be quite white, and white people tend to believe in the Bill of Rights and other old-fashioned notions. Younger people tend to be much more diverse, and the diverse don’t have all that much time for liberties, universal principles, reason, objectivity, and other problematic concepts.

Another reason is because David Brooks’ peers tend to be quite smart, while the low level young people working for them aren’t. Audacious Epigone has documented from General Social Survey data that IQ/vocabulary correlates closely with support for freedom of speech:

 
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  1. Different Theory:

    Older people have lived long enough to know that crowds can be wrong, fashions change, and that people should not have their lives destroyed over poorly chosen words.

    Young people think that now is forever.

  2. anon[405] • Disclaimer says:

    (((“brooks”))) should be asking why his co-ethnics are behind censorship and “hate speech”

  3. J.Ross says: • Website

    Yeah, the youth are just spontaneously doing stuff without anybody indoctrinating or organizing them. Really a waste of effort when you think about all that youth separately tracking down specific targets. David Brooks is nothing and even when he has the ball set up as perfectly as this issue, which has clear blame and potential wide appeal (we know this because of all the folks who are better writers than David Brooks who have already written about this issue) he is still a complete waste of time.

  4. dr kill says:

    I’ll take B for $200, Alex.

  5. I can’t believe Ron let you post this, Steve.

  6. Anonymous[807] • Disclaimer says:

    There’s a theory that kids raised by crazy-leftist parents and teachers will rebel by becoming Nazis. “Generation Zyklon”. Maybe. But it’s more likely they will rebel by becoming even more crazy-leftist than their elders.

  7. @J.Ross

    he is still a complete waste of time.

    Too true. But the question is whether he is stupid or malicious. The ignorance explanation just doesn’t work. Yes, yes, I know that attributing to malice what can be explained by stupidity or ignorance is a mistake. But I don’t see Brooks as either stupid or ignorant. I think Sherlock Holmes would agree.

  8. Is it because people like Davis Brooks keep telling the youth to?

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @Buffalo Joe
  9. utu says:

    Sailer’s simple explanation; (1) not white, (2) not smart.

  10. The younger militants tend to have been influenced by the cultural Marxism that is now the lingua franca in the elite academy. Group identity is what matters.

    Brooks with a bit of a frog whistle there. Still, no reason to trust this guy.

    • Agree: Roderick Spode
  11. Tiny Duck says:

    When is he going to write about the Tea Party Parents and their Proud Boys/KKK kids?
    We see the term ”militant” used quite often as of late to describe sticking up for oneself as some sort of extremism. (another term used)

    It is not militant or extremist to demand human rights, proper stewardship of our planet, peace, a living wage, health care, or Progressive taxation where people (corporations especially) pay their fair share. Throw in women demanding to be treated equally as men, and having complete dominion over their own bodies, and aye, there is no longer a taste for the status quo.

    Read the comments. The Peopple are against yiu.

    The structures of society – pro-capitalism and anti-people – are clearly the crux of the problem.

    • LOL: Jus' Sayin'...
    • Troll: IHTG
  12. Youth will always push as far as they can, and see what they can get away with. The problem is more likely the “liberal managers” who are too pussified to exert any authority.

    • Replies: @Svigor
  13. more like younger people have now spent their entire lives being conditioned and brainwashed with propaganda since elementary school. 12 years of that, plus 4 or more in college.

    • Agree: Malcolm X-Lax, densa
    • Replies: @njguy73
  14. I don’t know where this one is from.

  15. Strauss-Howe generational theory predicted back in 1991 that the Millennials would be conformist and pushing to re-introduce gender differentiation, just like the GI generation did before them.

    The conformism and gender differentiation are hard to see because they’re distorted through the lens of Boomer politics and porn-saturated media, but they’re there if you look.

    Speech codes, trigger warnings, safe spaces = conformism

    Title IX, MeToo, 58 genders = gender differentiation

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Thea
  16. The elites who own us, who are neither left and right, because left and right is for chumps like you, are behind this. Divide and conquer isn’t a boardgame. It is the name of this game. Instead of fighting back against ID politics agitation, you should be ignoring it. But instead, you play the ID politics game just as hard as they do. Resulting in gridlock. Exactly as our neither left nor right owners envision it. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

    • Replies: @Thea
    , @kihowi
    , @MarkinLA
    , @3g4me
  17. BenKenobi says:

    “It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers-out of unorthodoxy.”
    - Orwell, 1984

    • Agree: fish
  18. phil says:

    The original Generation Gap referred to the 1960s. Good liberals did not know what to do with campus radicals, who had little patience with calls for civility and reasoned discussion. At Berkeley the radicals pushed the “Free Speech” movement, but many of them did not really champion free speech; they claimed the right to commandeer public property for THEIR speech.

    Brooks does not chat with a representative sample of people. Within his tribe, radicals of the 1960s were often “red-diaper babies.” Now, as then, Jews are far from the only rabble rousers, but they are disproportionately represented in Antifa, which quite deliberately uses virtually the same logo as was used by the paramilitary wing of the German communist party during the 1930s.

    Of course, Antifa followers do not believe in free speech; they believe in violent action.

    Jewish lawyers argued that pornography should be protected under the First Amendment, but most of them did not care as much about free speech as they caared about their ethnic interests.

    As David Irving has said, Jews are the “traditional enemies of free speech.”

    • Replies: @Doug
  19. Alice says:

    Free speech was only taught in k-12 when the then-communists needed it to stay teachers.

    Now that they’re running schools, the university education departments, and the curriculum providers, they don’t need it. So they don’t teach it.

    Most people have no clue what happens in school or what is taught. For years now, phonics hasn’t been taught. So kids who aren’t smart enough to figure out English for themselves simply can’t decode multisyllabic words. They can’t read past fourth grade. They can’t engage an idea.

    Meanwhile teachers have changed what’s taught in social studies away from civics to “community”. In community you focus on self. Then those around you. It’s ego-centric. You are untethered from any cultural history, any historical memory, and civic pride. So the historical weight of free speech does not resonate.

    Writing via expository paragraphs and grammar can’t be that any longer because teachers don’t know any grammar; iq differences, reading ability and vocabulary differences in the classroom make it impossible to have students write based on what they’ve read, so instead they write their own personal experiences. Students forever speak only of themselves. These are invasive essays where students are asked daily, for hears, to divulge their desires, feelings, beliefs, dislikes.

    They learn quickly which beliefs are acceptable.

    So the only thing they know is personal, and the only other things they know are that feelings, thoughts or opinions deemed unacceptable will be viewable by the whole school.

    This hasn’t created any interest in privacy on their part. They’re constantly surveilled and find that comforting. They don’t believe there should be anything internal not expressed-that would be inauthentic–and so you must not commit crimethink, because you must have the right self expression at all times.

    These kids know that free speech is dangerous. They don’t value it because they’ve been marinated in the belief that opinions that might cause trouble for over a decade. They don’t value privacy. They don’t value the internal. They will make you have your Good Citizen Number. They think you deserve the Gulag if you won’t.

  20. I’m looking at that commitment-to-free-speech graph and wondering, what’s the blue race? (Otherwise, the bars seem to be color-coded in a straightforward way.)

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    , @skill(mostly)
  21. Isn’t most of the evangelical left white? Portland, Seattle and the like, aren’t they whiter than white? I think the reason Antifa love masks so much is it hides the fact that they’re mostly white. Perhaps it’s on a subconscious level, but they realize how silly it wold look to have a sea of white faces screaming the usual social justice nonsense.

    • Replies: @South Texas Guy
  22. The IQ/Freedom of speech graph needs to be seen in context of this table: http://anepigone.blogspot.com/2017/04/average-iq-of-college-graduates-by.html?m=1

    … which shows the average IQ of college graduates has gone from 112 in the 60s to 100 in the 2010s. By now, graduating from college is probably an indicator that you have a LOWER IQ than average.

    • Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...
    , @Anonymous
  23. @Anonymous

    Why not both?

    Seriously, I envision the next generation splitting into two (at least) radically polarized factions.

    I wish the “Nazis” all the best.

  24. AndrewR says:
    @Charles Erwin Wilson II

    I didn’t think you, of all people, were cautious about ascribing malicious motives to people…

    In any event, the aphorism you refer to is basically saying “assume good faith from everyone.” But the world is full of people acting in bad faith. I’m not sure anyone working for a major media organization deserves that default trust that they’re acting in good faith and that when they’re wrong about something it’s due to unintentional ignorance. The power they have is in large part derived from a common perception that they are good faith actors. That’s why Trump’s “enemy of the people” line is so triggering to the corporate media: they know it’s true and that their power derives from fooling people into thinking the media is on the people’s side.

  25. @BenKenobi

    I must agree with Orwell, women are conformist, they’re even conformist in their nonconformity.

    • Replies: @Doug
  26. Marty T says:

    It’s not about low-iq Steve. I doubt these young workers Brooks is talking about are the janitors or cafeteria workers. Much more likely they attended top colleges, which seem to have the worst leftist bias in America.

    The reason they don’t want freedom of speech is because they feel they have all the cultural power and they want to keep it.

    • Agree: Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @dfordoom
  27. I was 20 when the during the summer of 1989 when the Supreme Court decision regarding “flag burning” came down (basic holding: burning the flag is constitutionally protected expression).

    The liberals were all for it, of course, the argument being, “I may not agree with what you are saying, but I’ll defend to the death your right to say it.”

    Conservatives felt a bit checkmated, I remember, but any counter-argument, whether it was employing the fighting words doctrine or whatever, usually began with the preamble, “Yeah, that’s generally true… but…” We could at least conceive of what they were talking about.

    I think this was a result of everybody, even leftists who probably admired the collective economic stuff, being acutely aware of the totalitarian USSR and the communist bloc controls on free speech. Even the lowest information voter could see the soon-to-be razed Berlin Wall and grasp the idea: That wall means you can’t leave, and you can’t say what you think either.

    Now, that’s ancient history.

    What I can’t explain, and is genuinely disturbing, is that so many leftist of my age don’t seem to remember any of this. When discussing how leftist mobs routinely use violence to disrupt lawful assemblages of their political opponents, I get that blank, NPC non-response.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @densa
  28. Miro23 says:

    The managers at these places, who are generally 35 and above, are liberals. They vote Democratic and cheer on all the proper causes of the left. But some of the people under 35 are not liberals, but rather are militant progressives. The older people in the organization often have nicknames for the younger set: the Resistance, Al Jazeera, the revolutionaries. The young militants are the ones who stage the protests if someone does something deemed wrong.

    That’s what it looks like, but action also breeds reaction – Antifa militants will generate a militant Nationalist reaction.

    That’s how it worked in Spain prior to the Civil War. Bolshevik style aggression radicalized the traditional monarchist and religious right until the Falange arrived on the scene, and Spanish society headed towards Armageddon.

  29. @Charles Erwin Wilson II

    Well, his son sure knows where his loyalty lies. I’m sure it’s antisemitic to even mention, but for gosh sake, guy, you couldn’t even convince your own son to serve his birth country. Crooked or stupid indeed.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  30. @BenKenobi

    I’ve noticed that there is a sure harbinger of when a “revolution” is about to or has already veered into totalitarian repression. This is the appearance of all-female tribunals which sentence people to death or worse with no pretense of procedure and no attempt to apply proof, reason, or logic in reaching their determinations and sentences. Women love these atavistic emotional orgies

    .

  31. Thomas says:

    In other words, liberals have basically nurtured a generation of Red Guards itching for their own Cultural Revolution.

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
  32. Thomas says:

    The younger militants tend to have been influenced by the cultural Marxism that is now the lingua franca in the elite academy. Group identity is what matters.

    I’m quietly amazed Brooks could use the term “cultural Marxism” directly. I’ve been harangued that that’s some sort of anti-Semitic dog whistle or something. Maybe it’s like the “N-word,” you can say it if you’re the right kind of person.

    • Replies: @jb
    , @Ray Huffman
  33. Anonymous[373] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    Benoit Quennedey: French official ‘suspected of spying for North Korea’

    Didn’t know about the French branch of the Kennedy clan. Guess Haiti scam should have been a tip-off.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46353105

  34. anon[405] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s pretty annoying to have Boomers feign surprise at the lower human capital in millennials, when K-to-12 education has been gutted, media has pumped out a destructive message since the 80′s, and universities have been turned into leftist madrases.

    I have sympathy for millennials since their upbringing was short-changed by the Boomer’s failed policies (socialism and anti-Gentilism from the left; tax cuts, debt and outsourcing from the right). Millennials’ prime earning years will be equally short-changed to fund Boomers’ unnecessary medicare procedures.

    Just once, I would like to hear a Boomer say, “Our generation created this mess.” And if not that, then perhaps a thank you to the generation that will end up paying for both the bad ideas and knee replacements.

  35. tsotha says:

    A simple explanation for this pattern is that older people in America tend to be quite white, and white people tend to believe in the Bill of Rights and other old-fashioned notions.

    The radicals are mostly white, too. Nearly all white, from what I can tell, and nearly all college educated.

    The problem is you have to be taught to tolerate people with opinions other than your own, and more importantly, you have to be taught empathy. These people have been taught people with different opinions are evil and need to be driven out of society.

  36. Anon[395] • Disclaimer says:
    @Patrick in SC

    The practice of widespread firearms ownership in developed countries only exists in the US, in Europe only the Swiss, Czechs and Estonians have any meaningful gun ownership not explicitly linked to a small number of aging hunters.

    The US practice of unrestricted free speech including the legality of Holocaust Denial is also absent in the rest of the developed world.

    As bicoastal liberals tend to travel abroad, and meet foreigners more than Middle American conservatives, they don’t see these restrictions for the tyranny that we see them as. Rather, they are embarassed at their “country cousins”.

  37. Anonymous[239] • Disclaimer says:

    Minorities generally aren’t the ones leading witch hunts and demanding blood sacrifices. That sort of Puritanism is still a white man’s (and woman’s) game. Free speech is a high ideal that most people only believe in when it benefits them; that hasn’t changed.

    What we’ve really lost is our humanity. The call-out, shaming culture, in all its forms, really boils down to the same basic impulse: killing something for the pleasure of watching it die. This is new, or at least the resurgence of an atavistic urge once buried. We, as a nation, have never been softer, more cowardly, more pathetic, more distant from the physical struggle of life…and yet we’re as vicious and hateful and spiteful and vindictive as we’ve ever been. Maybe the two are related: material wealth has spiritually impoverished us. And I see no signs of a let-up or rapprochement. At best we’ll have different “oppressed” communities (black, trans, whatever) sticking up for their own and only for their own. No mercy otherwise. The US is an ugly place that will only get uglier.

    • Agree: TTSSYF
  38. @Justice Duvall

    thats sounds right. Also older people have more likely experienced that they themselves have been wrong about something. So they don´t trust their own convictions enough to turn violent against someone who doesn’t hold these convictions

    • Replies: @bomag
  39. Bourdieu said every generation needs something to differentiate itself from the previous generation. He also said radicalization is a common way to do that

  40. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    Parents don’t decide right or wrong. They get their sense of right or wrong from the academia and media. Parents are puppets. Prior to TV and mass media, each local community had its own value system. Today, everyone watches the same TV shows beamed by handful of globo-corporations.

    Who came up with ‘hate speech’ concept?

    Jews.

    Why?

    Because Jews gained elite power and set out to invalidate speech critical of Jewish Power and Israel as ‘hate’. So, free speech is speech approved by Jews. Speech disapproved by Jews is ‘hate speech’.

    Where do kids(and their parents) get their ideas and idols?

    Media and Academia.

    Those are controlled by whom?

    Jews.

    Since Jews got media and academia, they spread the notion of ‘Hate Speech’ that was inculcated into putty minds of youth who were also made to idolize Jews, blacks, and homos, the holy three. Since the Holy Three are sacrosanct to NPC youth, they see any speech that defies Jews, blacks, and homos as blasphemy or ‘hate speech’.

    Brooks is too much a liar to state the obvious.

  41. It is more possible that the more intelligent favor free speech because they are more capable of using verbal intercourse to achieve their ends, capturing the slower witted in logical-inconsistency-traps after which they feel compelled to go along with their bigger brained betters. If I were stupid, but I felt something was the right end and wanted to bring it about, perhaps I’d be wary of a debate on the point. You’re liable to bring someone along who can point out that I’m simply acting in my self interest. Screw that noise. Might and numbers make right.

  42. …it’s often because of a youth revolt.

    This happened at Giovanni’s Room, once America’s largest gay bookstore.

    Gay bookstores are putting up barricades of their own, choosing not to carry the NAMBLA Bulletin for the first time in the organization’s history. At Giovanni’s Room in Philadelphia, the store’s owner, Ed Hermance, says he pulled the NAMBLA Bulletin off the shelves last year after his staff threatened to strike if he didn’t.

    “I think it’s a strange day for gay culture when we start banning something because it makes us uncomfortable,” Hermance says. “Especially when that thing is a foundation of gay literature. If we pulled all the books that had adult-youth sexual themes, we wouldn’t have many novels, memoirs, or biographies left.”

    https://www.bostonmagazine.com/2006/05/15/boy-crazy/

    • Replies: @anon
  43. @Tiny Duck

    Read the comments. The Peopple are against yiu.

    Is Peopple a magazine or a soft drink?

    And it’s not “yiu”, it’s “baizuo”.

    • Replies: @TheBoom
  44. @Charles Erwin Wilson II

    Brooks’ uselessness is a feature, not a bug.
    It’s precisely why the NYT keeps him on staff as a token “Republican.”

    Without that nominal “R” next to his name, he would be an unemployable, boring quish. With it, he can prove every week that the NYT’s liberal world view is actually “bipartisan.”

    • Replies: @Unladen Swallow
    , @anon
  45. @Angular momentum

    As far as Antifa, don’t forget the masks make them look tougher. Most are just silly pussys parading around. From what I’ve seen on youtube, I’m 20 years older than the average one, and I’d whip the hell out one them one on one. BTW, not even in great shape.

  46. @Jus' Sayin'...

    ” Women love these atavistic emotional orgies.”– Say what?

    at·a·vis·tic

    /ˌadəˈvistik/

    adjective

    adjective: atavistic

    relating to or characterized by reversion to something ancient or ancestral.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  47. @Roderick Spode

    Lófasz a seggedbe! Basszon agyon a kénköves istennyila!

    Hogy bassza meg egy talicska apró majom!

  48. Looks like we are learning how the Chinese Mafia has laundered their profits from the fentanyl poison that has killed TENS OF THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN CITIZENS.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-26/chinese-fetanyl-kingpins-laundered-over-5bn-through-vancouver-homes-2012

    A sane society would strike back against this cancer and put some bullets in the heads of the mafiosos.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @anon
  49. @Miro23

    So when Twinkie gives the right post, lock and load?

  50. Lurker says:
    @AndrewR

    That’s why Trump’s “enemy of the people” line is so triggering to the corporate media: they know it’s true and that their power derives from fooling people into thinking the media is on the people’s side.

    I think it’s slightly more subtle. The media likes to imply it’s a neutral entity and thus any time it appears partisan only goes to show how dangerous and extreme Trump is.

    • Replies: @South Texas Guy
  51. TheBoom says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    baizuo is the Mandarin term for tiny duck

  52. Ed says:

    While the youth cohort is more diverse, this nonsense wouldn’t gain any traction if it wasn’t for the heavily coddled white kids from upper middle class backgrounds.

  53. El Dato says:

    The managers at these places, who are generally 35 and above, are liberals. They vote Democratic and cheer on all the proper causes of the left.

    Goodleft, can be controlled.

    But some of the people under 35 are not liberals, but rather are militant progressives.

    Hotleft, cannot be reined in.

    Oy!

  54. @Lurker

    The old stockholders, corporate execs, etc., know their time is coming. That’s why they maintain the non partisan fiction. It would delve deeply into their bottom line.

    Even with the big broadcast and cable networks, which are owned by bigger companies (think Disney), they’d still feel the pain (also, today ABC Pres. who cancelled ‘Rosanne’ out on her ass).

    Also, on a smaller scale, the last place I worked at had to initiate layoffs because they were 500k short. Not in the red, just short of their goal. ‘Their’ goal being the rich woman whose dad founded the biz and lived in a lux condo in Houston.

  55. anon[336] • Disclaimer says:

    “I was 20 when the during the summer of 1989 when the Supreme Court decision regarding “flag burning” came down (basic holding: burning the flag is constitutionally protected expression). The liberals were all for it, of course…”

    They were for it because they were the ones doing it. Those same people also supported federal charges against cross burning and waving Confederate flags in front of blacks. The fundamental flaw in almost all modern philosophies and reasoning is the failure to recognize motive behind professed ideology – that motive being, primarily, self-interest among the radical left. The radical left supported free speech back when they thought the right could suppress them. They oppose it now that they think they have the power to suppress their enemies. It’s as simple as that – no convoluted words, references to past thinkers, or invocations of high-minded philosophy required. The same kind of thing is seen repeated throughout history: a group fights against an oppressor only to become the oppressor themselves. Rinse, wash, repeat. What surprises me is how people never seem to learn when others are merely manipulating them for their own benefit. People are dumb enough to believe the words when they should assessing the motives behind the words.

  56. @Justice Duvall

    Different Theory:

    Older people have lived long enough to know that crowds can be wrong, fashions change …

    No, I think this is all about RACE. There is no evidence that any group of Brown/Black people on earth or in history, ever valued free speech.

    • Replies: @clyde
    , @bomag
  57. Don’t think this Sailer theory holds water. A lot of the protest outrage you see is driven by young, white leftists of fairly comfortable backgrounds. The dumb and diverse aren’t that organised and don’t care that much.SJWs have rediscovered the original American religion of Puritanism mixed with universalism. Like Huey Long said when fascism comes to America it will be called anti-fascism.

    • Replies: @IHTG
    , @Ed
  58. El Dato says:
    @anon

    This.

    The only place where there are no motives are in physics and mathematics.

    And even there, once you lift the cover, you are no longer so sure (but at least you can “independently check”)

  59. IHTG says:
    @Ali Choudhury

    Yep. What this theory does in effect is absolve the right of the responsibility of trying to subvert and recapture the culture. “Nope, it’s the non-whites, not our fault, we can’t do nothing!” It’s a self-destructive mentality.

  60. anon[184] • Disclaimer says:

    “Don’t think this Sailer theory holds water. A lot of the protest outrage you see is driven by young, white leftists of fairly comfortable backgrounds. The dumb and diverse aren’t that organised and don’t care that much.”

    That has pretty much always been the case; a failing of the white Caucasian race, I guess. The difference between the past and the present is that these diverse groups are now so large they can determine the outcome of major elections. The authoritarian white SJWs are like a boat in the middle of a rising tide. They will ride that wave until they are overtaken themselves. In any case, sheer numbers can do wonders to overcome disorganization in democratic elections. See some of the diverse candidates of the democrat party overcoming party insiders and organized opposition this year as an example.

  61. clyde says:

    Opinion
    My New Vagina Won’t Make Me Happy
    And it shouldn’t have to.
    By Andrea Long Chu
    Ms. Chu is an essayist and critic.
    Nov. 24, 2018

    Check out this mutant who was linked to right under the Brooks opinion at the NYT

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/24/opinion/sunday/vaginoplasty-transgender-medicine.html?action=click&module=RelatedLinks&pgtype=Article

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    , @El Dato
  62. clyde says:
    @RichardTaylor

    No, I think this is all about RACE. There is no evidence that any group of Brown/Black people on earth or in history, ever valued free speech.

    They always want authoritarianism by the big man, the dictator, the caudillo.

  63. Anon[652] • Disclaimer says:

    Youth revolts tend to die down once ‘youths’ ends up in change and have to deal with practicalities–or else. A lot of companies that let these yo-yos run things will go under. They’ll go under for the same reasons third world companies go under, and they’ll work as well as companies under the Soviet bloc did. Because they put ideology first.

  64. Anon[652] • Disclaimer says:

    More than ever, I deplore the fact that our elites have put their kids in private schools. If they were in public schools, a lot of nonsense would have been knocked out of them. You really have to go to school with minorities to understand what minorities are like.

  65. “Another reason is because David Brooks’ peers tend to be quite smart…”

    Well, Brooks, no doubt, is “smart” but I hesitate with “quite smart” — case in point:

    From Hot Air, https://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/31/the-obligatory-david-brooks-really-impressed-with-obamas-pants-post/

    “That first encounter [with Barack Obama] is still vivid in Brooks’s mind. ‘I remember distinctly an image of–we were sitting on his couches, and I was looking at his pant leg and his perfectly creased pant,’ Brooks says, ‘and I’m thinking, a) he’s going to be president and b) he’ll be a very good president.’”

    That Brooks got conned by Obama. “Obama sees himself as a Burkean,” Brooks says. A lot lesser “intellects” saw through this fraud from the start.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    , @dvorak
  66. Art Deco says:

    The population between age 20 and age 35 is 55% white Anglo. The population between 35 and 65 is 63% white Anglo. I don’t think the color composition explains much here.

  67. Art Deco says:
    @Stephen Paul Foster

    That statement is an indication that Brooks is fatuous above and beyond the call of duty. Obama’s executive experience consisted of running the Chicago Annenberg Challenge into the ground. He trained as a lawyer and only as a lawyer. Pro-rating part-time and seasonal employments, he worked in law offices for all of four years. What Thomas Sowell said: the Anointed confound expertise with intelligence, then confound intelligence with articulateness. (And, in Obama’s case, confound articulateness with being articulate when a TelePrompTer is running).

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
  68. Doug says:
    @Angular momentum

    Women are mostly less antisocial in general. That means less criminality and social pathologies, but also less principled opposition to authoritarianism. I can’t find it at the moment, but there was a historical study which found that over 90% of Nazi resistors in Germany were men.

    So, with women you get fewer Al Capones but also fewer Thomas Jeffersons.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    , @Anonymous
    , @anon
  69. Coemgen says:

    Hm, the “separation of church and state” interpretation of the First Amendment is jealously guarded by “the Left.”

    We need a “separation of politics and state” interpretation to ensure open discourse and free thought.

    Btw, shouldn’t the Fourth Estate be de facto held to the same constitutional restrictions as the other three estates?

  70. Doug says:
    @phil

    > Jewish lawyers argued that pornography should be protected under the First Amendment, but most of them did not care as much about free speech as they caared about their ethnic interests.

    The most principled defenders of free speech on American campuses is undoubtedly FIRE. Which is founded and run by two Jews, Alan Kors and Harvey Silvergate.

    > As David Irving has said, Jews are the “traditional enemies of free speech.”

    This is ridiculous. As per the original Audacious Epigone post, American Jews are the most pro-free speech of any other religious or racial group in the US, including gentile whites.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Mr. Anon
    , @phil
    , @Simon
  71. dvorak says:
    @Stephen Paul Foster

    That Brooks got conned by Obama. “Obama sees himself as a Burkean,” Brooks says. A lot lesser “intellects” saw through this fraud from the start.

    Obamacare is the Heritage Foundation health care plan, so Obama makes a perfect cuckservative, same as Brooks. Seems Brooks got Obama right: cuckservative who puts Wall Street and Israel first, and puts Whites into heroin/alcohol despair.

    • Agree: densa
  72. JMcG says:
    @Miro23

    The Spanish Civil War is the model I believe most useful for understanding the course of our country these last years. There is a large difference though: The institutional Christian churches are on the left now. I think the Falange might be the church burners next time around.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  73. TTSSYF says:
    @anon

    I’m technically a Boomer but, other than loving the music, I’ve never identified much with Boomers…at least, not the hippie variety. I was a Republican from my earliest days, and I’ve voted against nearly all of the things you mention but, with rare exception, to no avail. Our generation did create this mess, but the things you mention are, I believe, more symptom than cause.

    I believe this mess is directly related to the change in the immigration laws in 1965, which has allowed massive immigration of unassimilable people from the Third World, and, to keep the peace, has required that the native population accommodate and withhold judgment on all their various, often-dysfunctional cultures (a requirement enforced by our entrenched politicians, judges, and bureaucrats, aided and abetted by the Leftist media). That, combined with having things too good for too long, which allowed Boomer parents to spoil their children and allowed the socialist/Marxist Boomers who have taken over the educational system from K through graduate school to indulge in their (ultimately) unworkable political beliefs and further brainwash Boomer children and grandchildren.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    , @anon
    , @dfordoom
  74. Art Deco says:
    @Doug

    Women are Women are mostly less antisocial in general. That means less criminality and social pathologies, but also less principled opposition to authoritarianism.

    I think you mean ‘less contentious’. And also more risk-averse and less given to organizing something de novo, leading it, and building goal-directed teams and hierarchies. Women in groups often get side-tracked into intramural disputes over procedure and division of labor and lose sight of goals while fretting over the feelings of this person and that person in the work group.

  75. @clyde

    I’m not gonna read it, but based on the headline alone, that news page should go into a time capsule.

    It will help future archeologists understand what went just before the deep layer of ash and debris.

  76. dr kill says:
    @Anonymous

    I think you’re on to something here. At the most basic level, Americans are missing (without realizing) the benefits of some hard physical labor. Being able to look back at a load of baled hay or its equivalent does something good for your soul.
    Personally, I could not work in a profession where I needed to wait years to see the result of my labor. I’m pretty basic that way.

    • Replies: @Captain Willard
  77. @Alice

    Agree with many of your points, but I think there is more to be said.

    Free speech was only taught in k-12 when the then-communists needed it to stay teachers.

    Are you saying that free speech was not taught earlier in our history? It is, after all, embodied into the First Amendment.

    Now that they’re running schools, the university education departments, and the curriculum providers, they don’t need it. So they don’t teach it.

    People who cannot think and who think only what they have been taught to think in their education colleges parrot these ideas now that they are administrators.

    Most people have no clue what happens in school or what is taught. For years now, phonics hasn’t been taught. So kids who aren’t smart enough to figure out English for themselves simply can’t decode multisyllabic words. They can’t read past fourth grade. They can’t engage an idea.

    Phonics is important, as is Latin, but I think the reason kids can’t engage an idea is that they are force fed cause and effect to the extent their perceptions of the world are colored before they have a chance to perceive the world. This damages only the upper quartile that would actually be capable of forming their own cause and effect perceptions, as the lower 75% believe what they are taught, assuming they can be taught. This might be why our founders created a republic.

    Meanwhile teachers have changed what’s taught in social studies away from civics to “community”. In community you focus on self. Then those around you. It’s ego-centric. You are untethered from any cultural history, any historical memory, and civic pride. So the historical weight of free speech does not resonate.
    Writing via expository paragraphs and grammar can’t be that any longer because teachers don’t know any grammar; iq differences, reading ability and vocabulary differences in the classroom make it impossible to have students write based on what they’ve read, so instead they write their own personal experiences. Students forever speak only of themselves. These are invasive essays where students are asked daily, for hears, to divulge their desires, feelings, beliefs, dislikes.
    They learn quickly which beliefs are acceptable.

    In the district where I once taught, over 50% of the new hires have already left. Only the teachers who comply with the mental child abuse en masse remain. I was told by the assistant superintendent for human resources that the most gifted of the new hires are put into the classrooms with the most challenged students. I observed negatively-gifted new hires given honors and AP assignments. Go figure.

    So the only thing they know is personal, and the only other things they know are that feelings, thoughts or opinions deemed unacceptable will be viewable by the whole school.
    This hasn’t created any interest in privacy on their part. They’re constantly surveilled and find that comforting. They don’t believe there should be anything internal not expressed-that would be inauthentic–and so you must not commit crimethink, because you must have the right self expression at all times.

    I feel has more weight than reality? Yes, they are taught that this is so.

    These kids know that free speech is dangerous. They don’t value it because they’ve been marinated in the belief that opinions that might cause trouble for over a decade. They don’t value privacy. They don’t value the internal. They will make you have your Good Citizen Number. They think you deserve the Gulag if you won’t.

    They have internalized the idea that free speech is dangerous. They do not understand that free speech includes the right to tell the truth in the face of an oppressive administration.

    While I agree, mostly, that communists (small c because if you asked them if they were American patriots, many would say ‘yes’) run our schools, I think the wealthy elite are the driving force. World resources are finite, and available resources are declining rapidly on a per capita basis. Only peasants will be allowed, thus the middle class, including those who might rise up to challenge power, must be eliminated.

    I do not think it is possible to form an macro-organism that can challenge the elites and their minions, but clear thinking can, just as a virus can kill a top predator. Programs that encourage clear thinking must be supported.

  78. @dr kill

    This disconnect between input and output is crucial. How else to maintain one’s delusions?

    Most modern insanities – from Progressivism to Keynesian economics – depend upon mass self-delusion.

  79. jb says:
    @Thomas

    Frankly I’m delighted to see Brooks using the term “cultural Marxism,” without quotes or qualifications, to characterize elite thinking! I have a few reservations about the term itself — it’s not the easiest thing to explain, and it’s not clear to me that there is much of a direct connection between cultural Marxism and classical Marxism (Marcuse et al. notwithstanding) — but it would be great if it came into widespread use as a general epithet for contemporary Leftist ideology, the way SJW has caught on. The Left is clearly worried about this, which is why you are seeing efforts to discredit the term, like this one in the Times. I wouldn’t be surprised if Brooks gets some blowback over this.

  80. El Dato says:
    @clyde

    > My New Vagina Won’t Make Me Happy

    Buy a new one then.

    • Replies: @Prester John
    , @Anonymous
  81. Anonymous[322] • Disclaimer says:

    Well, I’m not sure if there is a correlation between high IQ and support for freedom of speech. Look at East Asians.

    • Replies: @anon
  82. Audacious Epigone has documented from General Social Survey data that IQ/vocabulary correlates closely with support for freedom of speech

    /strokes chin/

    Bunch of low IQ buffons, those Germans and Russians in the 20th century…

  83. anonymous[338] • Disclaimer says:

    Yeah, check this out for re-making workplace culture:

    http://www.cwsworkshop.org/PARC_site_B/dr-culture.html

    • Replies: @El Dato
  84. @Jim Bob Lassiter

    The temporal chauvinism of the current year has given the word a pejorative connotation. Seems like it’s had one since I can remember, but I may be mistaken.

    He’s using it to mean primitive.

  85. njguy73 says:
    @prime noticer

    Americans under 30 don’t remember a time when the phrase “hate speech code” didn’t exist.

  86. “IQ/vocabulary correlates closely with support for freedom of speech”

    Which suggests the question: Does support for a personal right to bear arms correlate with superior eye/hand coordination?

  87. theMann says:
    @Miro23

    Pol Pot’s Cambodia was armageddon. The Right winning in Spain and Chile resulted in some executions of people the winners absolutely viewed as traitors – at most, a few thousand. Maybe if the Left had won there we would have had Armageddon.

    • Replies: @Logan
  88. At least anti-White and anti-Christian David Brooks brings up the baby boomer dirtbags benefiting from the demographic destruction of the United States. David Brooks valorizes the baby boomer rodents by saying they support some kind of “universal” this or that crap. I ain’t buying that propaganda puddle of warm puke slop, DAMMIT!

    The treasonous rat baby boomers are nation-wrecking MAMMONITES, not this so-called “universalists” crud that David Brooks says!

    David Brooks:

    But over the long run it will matter. The boomer conservatives, raised in the era of Reagan, generally believe in universal systems — universal capitalism, universal democracy and the open movement of people and goods. Younger educated conservatives are more likely to see the dream of universal democracy as hopelessly naïve, and the system of global capitalism as a betrayal of the working class. Younger conservatives are comfortable in a demographically diverse society, but are also more likely to think in cultural terms, and to see cultural boundaries.

    David Brooks is full of bullshit when he ascribes baby boomer philosophy to “universalism.” The baby boomer world view should be rightly described as nation-wrecking MAMMONISM.

    Red solo cup guy rightly tells the tale of inter-generational differences in world view to the drop in percentage of Whites and Christians among the younger cohorts.

    Raise the federal funds rate to 20 percent and wipe out the asset bubbles in stocks, bonds and real estate, and watch the baby boomers get financially liquidated. Then you’ll hear those nation-wrecking baby boomer rats start to squeal and bark like Mammonites impaled on their own greed!

    Feldstein doesn’t go far enough about monetary policy in today’s Wall Street Journal, not by a frigging long shot!

    20 percent federal funds rate now!

  89. In writing such a piece, Brooks has the built-in advantage of turning over in bed and asking his mistress turned wife what the young kids these days are thinking:

  90. theMann says:
    @Anonymous

    Try living in, or anywhere near, Mexico. You will see literal witch hunts on a regular basis.

  91. @Thomas

    I’m quietly amazed Brooks could use the term “cultural Marxism” directly. I’ve been harangued that that’s some sort of anti-Semitic dog whistle or something.

    I got the same response on FR once when I used the term “neocons.” Unsurprisingly, I was banned shortly thereafter.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  92. anon[316] • Disclaimer says:
    @Doug

    > As David Irving has said, Jews are the “traditional enemies of free speech.”

    This is ridiculous. As per the original Audacious Epigone post, American Jews are the most pro-free speech of any other religious or racial group in the US, including gentile whites.

    jews are for THEIR Free Speech, not yours

    • Replies: @Jack D
  93. @J.Ross

    Yeah, the youth are just spontaneously doing stuff without anybody indoctrinating or organizing them. Really a waste of effort when you think about all that youth separately tracking down specific targets. David Brooks is nothing and even when he has the ball set up as perfectly as this issue, which has clear blame and potential wide appeal (we know this because of all the folks who are better writers than David Brooks who have already written about this issue) he is still a complete waste of time.

    Isn’t this the way with all revolutions? The young Turks can improve their position by hewing more closely to the revolutionary doctrine and purging the old guard which made some compromises in the beginning, and acted before the doctrine itself came to its present iteration. The ultimate revolutionary act is to commit patricide in the name of the revolution, isn’t it?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  94. Anon7 says:

    Why don’t millennials believe in freedom of speech?

    Because they’ve been taught that Progressivism and Political Correctness protects everyone’s feelings from being hurt and prevents triggering and microaggressions. You can’t argue with them about it, because the words used to define it belong to them and their generation; it’s like Sixties parents using words like “groovy”.

    The expression “freedom of speech” is now a euphemism for white supremacist hate-mongering. Or maybe homophobic ranting. Because that’s the only reason you’d want to have it.

    • Replies: @Logan
  95. Thea says:
    @Faraday's Bobcat

    Strauss and Howe also predicted that Gen x would be rather family centric with less tendency to divorce. While the Boomers still beat us hands down in that regard it’s faint praise.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  96. Stick says:

    There’s nothing secular about our religious wars. Once you understand this you will understand that reason is no way to play this game.

    • Agree: Kylie
  97. @Roderick Spode

    Ah, Boomer hate. A sure sign of a whiny male loser with daddy issues. If you were female you would be twirling around a stripper pole and putting pictures of your 3 Hafrican kids on Facebook.

    • LOL: Roderick Spode
    • Replies: @AndrewR
    , @Desiderius
  98. Thea says:
    @obwandiyag

    I agree.

    Class warfare is at the bottom of this and always was.

    This was especially true for Boomers (rich kids got college deferment to party & protest while working class got the draft)

    • Replies: @Jewish TruthTeller
  99. anon[316] • Disclaimer says:

    i didn’t know brooks was such a huge supporter of Free Speech

    what did he have to say when the right was denied their Free Speech at Charlottesville?

  100. Tyrion 2 says:
    @International Jew

    Trouble and strife = the wife.

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
  101. BB753 says:
    @Justice Duvall

    Young people are short-tempered and tend to do rash stupid things because they’re young. Same with very old people.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  102. @Thea

    I agree.

    Class warfare is at the bottom of this and always was.

    thankfully they haven’t fooled you

  103. El Dato says:
    @Clifford Brown

    I always wondered where the money comes from exactly.

    (Opium trade comes home, then?)

    • Replies: @donut
  104. L Woods says:
    @anon

    I will agree with the caveat that not all groups are equally self-interested. Rightists (not your liberal capitalists or ancien regime aristocrats so much, but the revolutionary variety) tend to be much more ingenuous in their beliefs, to a point that’s often to their detriment. I’ve actually heard a (leftist, obviously) professor admit this, although given that rightist beliefs to him are bad it was not considered a point of endorsement.

  105. @Roderick Spode

    The baby boomers are mentally deranged Mammonites who push nation-wrecking mass immigration and amnesty for illegal alien invaders.

    Not all the White baby boomers push mass immigration, but enough of those bastards to destroy the USA!

    Merry Christmas!

    Tweet from 2015:

  106. El Dato says:
    @anonymous

    > White Supremacy Culture From Dismantling Racism: A Workbook for Social Change Groups, by Kenneth Jones and Tema Okun, ChangeWork, 2001

    > Describes an African King’s Court.

  107. Jack D says:
    @anon

    Lenin condensed it to two words – Who, whom?

  108. David Brooks is a baby boomer Jew, it can’t be refuted by twisting words or logic — it’s true!

    Tweet from 2015:

  109. Jack D says:
    @anon

    Exactly right. This is why the (old, Jewish dominated) ACLU went to court to defend the right of Nazis to march in Skokie, Illinois. No, wait…

    Of course the new, diverse ACLU is also concerned with rights – they want to protect the rights of rape ACCUSERS. Their right to be believed regardless of burdens of proof.

  110. Mr. Anon says:
    @Tiny Duck

    Read the comments. The Peopple are against yiu.

    What have Yiu ever done to deserve such hostility?

    https://www.google.com/search?q=yiu&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjEytKw8vTeAhXG11MKHZueBRQQsAR6BAgBEAE&biw=1588&bih=736

    Peopple. With two Ps, for a double dose of peoplin’.

  111. Jack D says:
    @Thea

    Strauss & Howe are wrong – modern Western civilization is not a pendulum swinging back and forth. Rather, it is a drain and we are circling it. If you are on the boat, you might perceive that sometimes you are traveling in one direction or the other but miss the fact that what you are really doing is circling the drain.

  112. Mr. Anon says:
    @Alec Leamas

    That mistress/homewrecker he married was the research assistant he employed while he was writing his book The Road to Character.

    Character.

    • LOL: Bubba
  113. Ibound1 says:

    America believed it could move closer to pure democratic governance with a powerful central government and away from a limited republican form of government, because its population was intelligent enough to make the right choices. And by and large until 1965 that worked well enough. Alas we are now dumbing down. It won’t work any more. We are going to miss the States choosing our Senators and a very limited federal government and even a real electoral college. Goldwater may have been the last GOP politician to understand this. We have turned over a structure built for the intelligent to the unintelligent. This will not work out well.

    • Replies: @Prester John
    , @Jack D
  114. Mr. Anon says:
    @Ray Huffman

    I got the same response on FR once when I used the term “neocons.” Unsurprisingly, I was banned shortly thereafter.

    They believe in a Free Republic. Just not so free that you can actually be allowed to speak freely.

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
  115. Ed says:
    @Ali Choudhury

    Agreed. The diverse cohort can be barely counted upon to show up at the polls. This is a white affluent, feminine leaning thing. Can’t put this on minorities.

    A prime example is the white American girl from wealthy suburban DC that was until recently the student body president at an English university. She sent out a tweet demanding a painting of white WW1 be taken down. Unlike in America, this evidently upset the Brits and her fellow students. She sheepishly apologized and resigned from her post. She may in fact leave the school.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  116. @Tyrion 2

    Trouble and strife = the wife.

    Well I married me a wife, she gave me trouble all my life
    Left me out in the cold rain and snow

    http://www.bluegrasslyrics.com/song/rain-and-snow/

  117. @utu

    Yep, what’s the breakdown by race?

    Whenever talking about “young” people, we need to remember the dramatic demographic transformation. You have to break it down by race before you can argue that outlooks have changed. It may simply be that outlooks are pretty much what they’ve always been, but the group numbers have changed.

    Kind of like what would happen if a high school that was once 90% Asian changed to 90% black. Outsiders would marvel at the dramatic change in the fortunes of the math and basketball teams. Yet, both of those results easily explained if you look at the demographics, which, of course, “colorblind” normies never do.

  118. Here’s another NYT article that shows they simply hate us:

    Maybe They’re Just Bad People
    Not all Trump support is ideological.
    By Michelle Goldberg

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/26/opinion/trump-supporters-bill-white-bryan-eure.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

  119. Mr. Anon says:
    @Doug

    Yeah, sure. You’re not fooling anyone.

  120. bomag says:
    @Erik Sieven

    Reminds me of the Bertrand Russell quip when asked if he was willing to die for his beliefs:

    “No, because I might be wrong.”

  121. AndrewR says:
    @Chris Mallory

    Obviously NABALT but don’t you think that many of the Boomer stereotypes have a lot of truth to them? If the average Boomer were similar to Sailer then we probably wouldn’t see the same amount of hate directed at them. Boomers as a generation were born on third base and think they hit a triple, and now they are living out their later years on the backs of their kids and grandkids who will never know the prosperity the Boomers have.

  122. The IQ disparity may be valid, but doesn’t account for the large number of Progs in the Forbes Top 25 of colleges/universities. I would think that these schools wouldn’t be admitting people with room temperature IQs, no? Then again, “diversity/equality” etc. is mainstream in those places so… .

  123. bomag says:
    @RichardTaylor

    this is all about RACE

    Yes, and they want “free” speech for their race.

    Universalism plays out as such a losing strategy for the practitioners when there is no enforcement of actual universalism. Thus all Black groups are okay; all White groups get extinguished; lots of Mosques built in NYC but no churches in the ME; etc.

  124. @Ibound1

    If you haven’t already done so, read “The Revolt of The Masses” by Jose’ Ortega y Gasset. He predicted this sort of thing over a hundred years ago.

    • Replies: @Ibound1
  125. Mr. Anon says:
    @Jack D

    Exactly right. This is why the (old, Jewish dominated) ACLU went to court to defend the right of Nazis to march in Skokie, Illinois. No, wait…

    Nazis led by the half jewish Frank Collin. It’s not as if the whole affair was a big coup for the neo-nazis. It even spawned a made-for-TV movie, lest the goyim ever forget. I’ll bet the SPLC raked in a lot of extra money for a few years thereafter. Maybe they kicked some of it back to the ACLU.

    The ACLU was founded to defend Bolsheviks. I don’t need them to selectively defend whatever civil liberties they deign to admit I might have. It is not now, nor has it ever been, on my side of anything, occasional intersecting interests not withstanding.

    • Agree: 3g4me
    • Replies: @stillCARealist
  126. @El Dato

    As long as these mental cases are given a forum, the silliness will continue.

    “My New Vagina Won’t Make Me Happy”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  127. Art Deco says:
    @BB753

    Young people are short-tempered and tend to do rash stupid things because they’re young. Same with very old people.

    No, a selection of very old people lose their marbles. They’re not doing anything ‘rash’, they’re just confused (and often frustratedly angry).

    • Agree: BB753
  128. Chase says:
    @Anonymous

    Actually it’s both. That’s why nations have historically organized themselves around things greater than plasticware from China. Everyone knows how holiness cycles work and how important it is to stamp them out. Now they are encouraged.

  129. anon[403] • Disclaimer says:

    “Well, I’m not sure if there is a correlation between high IQ and support for freedom of speech. Look at East Asians.”

    I would guess that there is also a cultural element involved, too. Many smart white Caucasians are pretty expressive (writers, directors, singers…other artists), so by defending freedom of speech, they are really just defending their own self-interest. Asians in Asia are, on the other hand, much more conformist, so they don’t have the same need for such concepts. If true, this exposes the danger of boiling everything down to a simple read of IQ; there could be other variables involved.

  130. @Tiny Duck

    “It is not militant or extremist to demand… proper stewardship of our planet…”

    Agreed if we’re talking about Teddy Roosevelt-style conservationism. If we’re talking about “build nothing, anywhere, anytime, ever” then not so much.

    “It is not militant or extremist to demand…a living wage…”

    I’m not opposed to a higher minimum wage per se, especially if it increases the demand for automation while reducing immigration. What I do object to is the tying of public employee union wages to the minimum wage as a way of constantly forcing up wages for people who are already better paid than most in the private sector.

    “It is not militant or extremist to demand…peace…”

    Yup, let’s end all the dumb, pointless wars. And instead of bringing a bunch of refugees from the places we’ve fought, just send them a few billion dollars in return for their agreement to not try to barge into our country later. It would be cheaper than being saddled with generations of net tax consumers in perpetuity.

    “It is not militant or extremist to demand…Progressive taxation…”

    Then let’s go back to the 1950 tax code. The top marginal rate was 91% for income over $200K ($2.1 million in 2018 dollars), while the lowest bracket was 20.4% for income up to $2000 ($21,000 today). And there generous loopholes and deductions for dependents, business write-offs, etc. etc. IOW, everybody had “skin in the game” as Obama liked to say. Nobody got a free ride, which is as it should be.

  131. Art Deco says:
    @TTSSYF

    Boomers who have taken over the educational system from K through graduate school to indulge in their (ultimately) unworkable political beliefs and further brainwash Boomer children and grandchildren.

    The smallest birth cohort of the 20th century was that of 1936. The largest was that of 1957. People younger than that lived out their adolescence during years wherein much of what was transgressive had lost its novelty and wherein the political dimension of that transgression had disappeared entirely. Most of those of the very youngest cohort of ‘boomers’ will have retired in a couple of years. Among academics, perhaps in 6 or 7 years.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
    , @Jack D
  132. kihowi says:
    @obwandiyag

    Obwandiyag bringin’ the persiphlage!

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  133. Anonymous[246] • Disclaimer says:
    @Chief Seattle

    Brooks’ son, like Brooks himself, may technically hold Canadian citizenship rather than US. Or he may be dual US-Canada.

    In any case, the boy was in a damned if you do / damned if you don’t scenario as far as pleasing the Unz commentariat. He was clearly motivated by pro-Israel sympathies. Unlike many others, he decided to act on those ideals in the most committed way possible, by literally placing his life on the line and joining the IDF. So now he’s damned by you for joining that military and not those of the US or Canada where he was born.

    But what if he hadn’t put his money where his mouth is by joining the IDF? What if he had joined the US or Canadian military? Well he’d be damned for that too. “Signing up to fight wars on behalf of Israel” and all.

    What if he simply remained rhetorically pro-Israel while living a comfortable civilian life in North America? He’d be damned for that too. “Keyboard warrior advocating sending American troops into battle” and what not.

    What should the boy have done to prove himself a loyal American/Canadian in your eyes? Joined Edward Said and Medea Benjamin in the West Bank throwing rocks at Israel?

  134. Chase says:
    @anon

    This basically never happens. It’s kind of strange; I’m a millennial and can say forthrightly that my generation is totally shit for a number of reasons and still think of myself as not a piece of shit (though others may disagree). This distinction seems to elude most boomers – they really have their personal ego tied up with their cohort. Even the smart ones do this.

    • Replies: @Kylie
  135. Jamie_NYC says:
    @anon

    This exactly.

    And this inabiliy to recognize the motive is why Right keeps losing. Btw., Bolsheviks came to power in the same manner: their opponents kept discussing principles, while they strived for power using any and all means.

  136. @Alice

    From where do you know these things?

  137. anon[321] • Disclaimer says:

    “The population between age 20 and age 35 is 55% white Anglo. The population between 35 and 65 is 63% white Anglo. I don’t think the color composition explains much here.”

    And the population below the age of 18 is either majority or near-majority non-white. You selected just two data points that looked similar in an effort to either dismiss a trend you didn’t understand or to purposely misconstrue the argument. This is similar to artificially partitioning the number of motor vehicle accidents into two closely related groups (say 35 vs 40 yo), cutting off the tail demographics, and then claiming that age has nothing to do with likelihood of being involved in an accident. Of course, it might very well if you looked at the full data set across all age brackets.

    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/20/40-of-millennials-ok-with-limiting-speech-offensive-to-minorities/

    There is an obvious cultural component as well as Europe is much more in favor of censoring speech, even more so than racial minorities in the United States. However the data seems clear here. More minorities favor censoring speech – about 40% overall – than American whites, meaning the more non-whites there are in the population, seen most in younger demographics, the less overall support for absolute freedom of speech.

    Didn’t Unz once accuse you of being a disinformation agent?

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  138. anon[186] • Disclaimer says:
    @TTSSYF

    But how did the 1965 immigration law cause the $22 trillion in debt? Or render states insolvent with bloated pensions? Or Medicare Part D? Or the housing bubble? Or increasing college tuition? Or outsourcing of white collar jobs?

    I get that the 1965 Immigration law did not help, but the Boomer policies from the 1990′s onward, unnecessarily exacerbated immigration as well.

    Personally, not a millennial and I disagree with a lot of their politics, but I understand their call for radical action. The Boomer policies have failed the millennials hard, and they will be the ones who pay for everything.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
    , @MarkinLA
  139. The case of enforced scientific ignorance about HBD, from a New York Times science editor:
    ——————————–

    By Dennis Overbye
    Nov. 19, 2018

    Only a fool would try to place limits on the reach of science, which fumbles upward by trial and doubt.

    To be clear, I’m all in favor of reaching for whichever stars — so to speak — might be calling to you. But at the risk of sounding incurious or unscientific, there are some questions that I’m not sure I want answered.

    [ Followed by a bunch of pointless filler and then]

    Nor do I want to know what evolution has in store for us. If I knew how it was expected to go, and I tried to intervene, I probably would screw it up. I’m not as smart or as innovative as nature, randomly shuffling the genetic deck.

    I also don’t want to know what the genes for intelligence are. Hopefully there are a lot of them, and we won’t know how they work.

    —————————

    So there you have it — please make sure we stay ignorant about genetics, intelligence, and genetic trends in average intelligence. It just is not interesting to know about these topics!

    According to the New York Times so-called science reporters, anyone who talks about these HBD topics needs to be shut up by the establishment and their SJW minions.

  140. @Hypnotoad666

    Spot on, Brooks and Douthat both know what their job is, to provide “republican” water downed versions of leftist talking points, so NYT can claim they are “unbiased”.

  141. @anon

    Well stated. Imagine the uproar by leftists if Americans were burning the Mexican flag to protest the Mexican lead invasion crossing the border.

  142. @Mr. Anon

    That mistress/homewrecker he married was the research assistant he employed while he was writing his book The Road to Character.

    Character.

    I had forgotten to remember that little tidbit.

    Perhaps he and his new woman could have titled the book “The Road to Character: Part I – The Low Road.”

    IIRC, at the time and while still smitten with his new chippy he was musing about soul mates or some other schoolgirl nonsense to rationalize his upgrade that really should embarrass a grown man to death. Perhaps we missed that he was assessing the “Character” of her perky breasts and tight, shapely backside?

  143. @Jack D

    Exactly right. This is why the (old, Jewish dominated) ACLU went to court to defend the right of Nazis to march in Skokie, Illinois. No, wait…

    you still haven’t heard that the head “Nazi” in Skokie was actually a jew?

    and what does that tell you about a supposed Nazi march in Skokie? Cui Bono?

  144. @James Speaks

    Are you saying that free speech was not taught earlier in our history? It is, after all, embodied into the First Amendment.

    Ever heard of the Alien and Sedition Acts? Or the Incorporation Doctrine? Freedom of speech did not exist in the modern sense until the 20th century.

    This might be why our founders created a republic.

    For the same reason all revolutionaries do- to take power away from the king and give it to themselves.

    They have internalized the idea that free speech is dangerous. They do not understand that free speech includes the right to tell the truth in the face of an oppressive administration.

    Free speech in the face of an oppressive administration is the Cultural Revolution. Oppression is defined by the powers that be after all.

    World resources are finite, and available resources are declining rapidly on a per capita basis.

    Technology increases resource availability. Of course this makes scientists and engineers high status and our elite’s power comes from telling people what they can and cannot do so they smashed science and engineering and put the current mockery in its place to demonstrate their power.

    Only peasants will be allowed, thus the middle class, including those who might rise up to challenge power, must be eliminated.

    You are assuming to much coherency. The elite have incredibly low fertility levels- the more elite you are, the more you suffer from leftism. That is because leftism is a tactic to seize power and so the more leftist you are, the more you are surrounded by people trying to seize power and punish others and the more time and effort you spend to avoid being devoured by them.

    It is a rat race where falling means your ‘friends’ proceed to devour you alive.

  145. TTSSYF says:
    @Art Deco

    And their ultimately unworkable socialist/Marxist political beliefs will outlive them, short of one or more of Kesler’s five options occurring.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  146. densa says:
    @Patrick in SC

    Agree: What I can’t explain, and is genuinely disturbing, is that so many leftist of my age don’t seem to remember any of this.

    I know lots of leftist who lived through that history and remain completely untroubled by their current political stance. These are people who, since Obama, have changed every political value they held into its opposite without noticing: from anti-war to endless smart war and regime change, from environmentalism that was anti-corporate to trans-corporate globalism under climate change, from pro labor to pro immigration, from ending discrimination to promoting it, and from live-and-let-live to the ninny state. On it goes. It’s astounding that these people never question where their loyalty to the Democrats is taking them.

    • Replies: @fish
  147. But the key thing is that the Kidz are just doing what they have been carefully taught, by lefty teachers K thru Grad School.

  148. AndrewR says:
    @Justice Duvall

    ITT: old people patting themselves on the back while smearing the pesky whippersnappers

  149. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Ed

    Yeah, but note how it took dying in the most horrible war ever to protect their historical memory from being disappeared on account of their skin colour…

  150. tyrone says:
    @utu

    Sailer’s straight razor…….carry one where ever you go.

  151. Marty says:

    Free Speech Update:

    Harry Edwards is calling for a boycott of Giants baseball because principal owner Charles Johnson (Franklin Resources) supports Mussissippi senate candidate Cindy Smith. Of course, the Giants could be boycotted for pure baseball reasons, too.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
  152. Anonymous[115] • Disclaimer says:

    @Steve, you are an observer of humanity. Since this thread largely involves generational differences, have you ever looked into the role that rock music played on Baby Boomers, their socialization, and drug use?

    Anecdotally, it seems like the World War 2 generation enjoyed social dance much more (like swing, ballroom dance, etc.), right up into the retirement home. One nice aspect of these dances, is that they set an implicit limit on the amount of alcohol you can consume, while still being a functional dance partner. They also force you to interact with others. There is also a communal aspect to it, which seems to fit that generation’s psyche.

    Fast forward a generation to 1960′s Rolling Stones and 1970′s Led Zeppelin concerts. In hindsight, it is kind of a sad, atomized experience: lots of stoned teens, staring at a stage, not really interacting. I cannot help but think this socialization process played a big role in the drug use we now see. If they had been doing say, swing dance, I wonder what our culture would look like.

    • Replies: @Miro23
  153. @Mr. Anon

    Here’s the WAPO ignoring the character-lacking elephant in the living room with a complete absence of irony. Basically, “Ha ha! Oopsie!”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/reliable-source/wp/2017/04/30/new-york-times-columnist-david-brooks-weds-his-former-researcher-anne-snyder/?utm_term=.a931c83e55ca

    Oh, and the adulterer and homewrecker are invited to speak about character:

    https://hydeparkinstitute.org/speaking-of-character/

  154. Logan says:
    @theMann

    Probably true for Chile.

    Not true for Spain. It is quite reliably estimated that the total number of deaths in the White Terror was in the vicinity of 200,000, or not much less than 1% of the population.

    Deaths in the Spanish Red Terror have been estimated generally at between 40,000 and 140,000.

    https://rufuspollock.com/2007/03/26/the-red-and-the-white-terror-in-the-spanish-civil-war/

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  155. MarkinLA says:
    @obwandiyag

    So if everybody else uses identity politics and I don’t, I somehow win? Is that what you are saying? What exactly do I win when everything is being taken from me by not defending myself?

  156. @Chris Mallory

    And yet he’s not wrong, which is why you went for the insult instead of refuting him.

    If Boomers want to know why their progeny are so thin-skinned they need only look in the mirror.

  157. black sea says:

    Perhaps he and his new woman could have titled the book “The Road to Character: Part I – The Low Road.”

    Or:

    Riding the Ruts on the Road to Character

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
  158. Logan says:
    @Anon7


    Because they’ve been taught that Progressivism and Political Correctness protects everyone’s feelings from being hurt and prevents triggering and microaggressions.

    Not actually what they are saying. The goal is clearly not to protect “everyone’s” feelings, since the whole point of much of their speech is to hurt the feelings of certain people. (Like you and me.)

    The point of Progressivism and Political Correctness is to protect the feelings of certain “marginalized communities.” Not anybody else.

    • Replies: @Anon7
  159. @Alec Leamas

    Mazel Tov. If his older first wife didn’t want to be supplanted she should have tried harder to compete.

  160. MarkinLA says:
    @anon

    The “greatest generation” gave us the 1965 immigration disaster and the “Red menace” scare that put us on a permanent war footing that bleeds us today. They created invade the world, invite the world.

  161. @Jack D

    “Exactly right. This is why the (old, Jewish dominated) ACLU went to court to defend the right of Nazis to march in Skokie, Illinois. No, wait…”

    Frank Collin, born of Max Cohn (survivor of Dachau), was the leader of the Nationalist Socialist Party of America, and half Jewish. “No, wait” indeed.

    It’s almost like that whole Skokie Nazi thing was drummed up to portray the idea of a massive wave of Naziism sweeping America or some such victimization narrative.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  162. anon[348] • Disclaimer says:

    With “conservatives” like Brooks, who needs liberals?

    As with most of his tribe, he’s in complete denial about what they’ve spawned.

    The left is always about rebellion. In the 60′s they rebelled against the conservative WASPs, since then they’ve gradually taken control of the country. Now that they are in full control of the country from media to academia, Wall Street to Hollywood, DC to SV, the judiciary, their spawns are left to rebel against themselves. The only way for the left to rebel against the left is to push it further left, until they fall off the deep end, dragging the whole country down with them.

    But things may be swinging back in the other direction. Just like the swinging 60′s and 70′s were followed by the conservative yuppies of Gen X in the 80′s and 90′s, millennials are followed by Gen Z which is now said to be the most conservative generation. Instead of embracing the drink-til-you-pass-out millennial culture, Gen Z grew up in the #MeToo and “rape culture” era, and change is in the air. I have kids in high school and they and their friends are big fans of Jordan Peterson and reject the whole Antifa/transgender/left wing lunacy. I know of white kids who just entered college who said they want big families, and I live in leftism gone wild left coast. I think that’s good news.

    • Replies: @Ragno
  163. @Desiderius

    There was nothing to refute. He is just a punk whining about his betters. Boomers are no more to blame for the current state than any other generation. He is just upset because his daddy never hugged him.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  164. @black sea

    Ain’t no imagery of David Brooks rutting any assistants allowed in the Unz Review, DAMMIT!

    Free speech only goes so far!

    He gots the ruts so bad, he’s hot for his book writing assistant.

    I hope David Brooks’s wife soaked the shit out of him, and she’s still soaking him.

  165. @MikeatMikedotMike

    Mike, sometimes a short reply, such as yours, is all that is needed.

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
  166. El Dato says:
    @Roderick Spode

    “Assuming Direct Control”

  167. Jack D says:
    @Art Deco

    Don’t be so sure. The Age Discrimination Act has abolished mandatory retirement. My BIL (much older than his wife) is a full professor who refuses to retire despite being in his 80s.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/06/colleges-offer-retirement-buyouts-to-professors/487400/

    They have pressed him to retire but he tell them to f*ck off and there is nothing they can do about it as a practical matter. I have personally told him that he is literally occupying a chair that is deserved by some much younger (and more currently productive – my BIL is in pretty good shape for his age both mentally and physically, but it’s very hard to do cutting edge science when you are 85) person and should step aside just as his predecessor stepped aside (at age 65 – he has already overstayed by two decades) but he really doesn’t give a f*ck about anyone except himself. He is a pre-Boomer (actually from that small cohort so he had a relatively easy path to his career) but this is how it is going to be with the Boomers – they aren’t going away until they get lowered into the ground and even then they will try to rule from the grave somehow.

  168. Tulip says:

    The point of free speech was to protect communist revolutionary groups in American society from political repression. Since the Fall of the Soviet Union, there are no well-funded communist revolutionaries in need of protection, ergo, no need for freedom of speech.

  169. Pat Boyle says:
    @Justice Duvall

    Clever graph. The average IQ people get a white (Caucasian) bar. The dull witted get a red (Amer-Indian/Hispanic)bar. The really stupid get a black bar.

    Going the other way – the smarter than average (East Asians) get a yellow bar. The blue bar must be for Jews.

    Tell me I got it right.

  170. Jack D says:
    @Ibound1

    I don’t think that’s why we moved in that direction. A loose federation was good enough when we were a strip of coastal states on a remote continent but as the US became a major player on the world stage, as as pretty much inevitable once it achieved continental scale it came up against other centrally ruled (and often totalitarian) powers and in order to compete it had to take on many of the characteristics of its enemies.

    Historically the US was able to increase Federal power in time of war or crisis and then when the war was over to return to our former state centered system but the triple whammies of the Depression, WWII and the Cold War put us more or less on a permanent war footing. After 70+ years of this, there are a lot of people whose cheese would get moved if we ever went back to being a peaceful decentralized republic so the chances of this ever happening get more and more remote with each passing year.

  171. @Anonymous

    Steve’s explanation via diversity and lower IQ is a partial answer, but SJW-ism is still mainly a project of higher IQ whites. You touch on the rest of the explanation.

    The establishment Left’s platform rests on falsehoods and hypocrisies, which they have lived with so long that they no longer notice, or tacitly agree to overlook them. The youth, however, have not the habit of acquiescencing to these inconsistencies, and they view matters with fresher eyes. So, as you suggest, their reaction is either to go full-on Red Guard, demanding even greater ideological purity, or (the healthier ones) become repulsed by the spectacle and if they form a political ideology, become dissident right.

  172. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Alec Leamas

    Unless I’m half asleep this comment appears to be too true to character. I’m not following what revolution is happening and resent Brooks being a card-carrying member of two groups that are both directly and indirectly responsible for the present violence, but saying nothing about this. Assuming there is a revolution I don’t follow what groups in the present are the groups in the comparison. My understanding is that young people are gullible and thoroughly controlled, that they are controlled by the deep state, so this is continuity. I’m not familiar enough with Turkey but what I know about it in that era doesn’t lend itself to the present, please elaborate.

  173. OT: Sometimes you just take a minute and enjoy the decline. Facebook has a “Black People” problem.

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/facebook-black-people-problem-ex-181811681.html

    Don’t these tech firms make enough to just hire a bunch of black “IT experts” and have them do the equivalent of dig a ditch and fill it back up? Just seems worth it to avoid the publicity. The blacks wouldn’t care that they’re not actually working.

    • Replies: @vinteuil
  174. @Cloudbuster

    I hate baby boomer globalizer David Brooks and Mark Shields too!

    It doesn’t make you a bad person if you also do!

    It’s OK to be White!

  175. Jack D says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    A side effect of Ashkenazi Jews having higher average IQs than other whites is that any organization, unless it is specifically exclusionary (and sometimes even then) will eventually have Jews over-represented in its leadership. Leadership is a right tail phenomenon and Jews disproportionally occupy the right tail of IQ by a factor of maybe 10 to 1 vs. their prevalence in the general population. People see this as the result of some sort of nefarious conspiracy but it is just a statistical artifact that is precisely what you would expect given the IQ shift, just as you would expect (and in real life we observe) few if any black science Nobelists given the shift in the other direction.

  176. @Mr. Anon

    They believe in a Free Republic. Just not so free that you can actually be allowed to speak freely.

    That’s some catch, that catch-22.

  177. @Alec Leamas

    Perhaps we missed that he was assessing the “Character” of her perky breasts and tight, shapely backside?

    Best of all for (((him))), she’s a goyim. He can spend the rest of (((his))) life literally screwing (((his))) enemy.

  178. OT, reason for the reversal of the Flynn Effect:

    Researchers find IQ scores dropping since the 1970s

    Importation of low-IQ individuals …

  179. Ibound1 says:

    For a very smart people “IQ-wise”, American Jews generally tend to make very foolish decisions. Being in favor of Muslim immigration is very bad for America but near suicidal for American Jews. And yet, I would say a majority of Jews (not all !) vote for politicians who are ensuring more of that immigration. I think the combination of high IQ, overrepresentation in management AND very foolish long term decision making is what leads people to believe in conspiracies. I don’t believe in conspiracies- that is for the foolish and paranoid. But the alternative is some kind of suicide wish or senility. The Israeli Jews seem to have avoided it and have very healthy instincts as our host points out often.

  180. @Jack D

    A side effect of Ashkenazi Jews having higher average IQs than other whites is that any organization, unless it is specifically exclusionary (and sometimes even then) will eventually have Jews over-represented in its leadership. Leadership is a right tail phenomenon and Jews disproportionally occupy the right tail of IQ by a factor of maybe 10 to 1 vs. their prevalence in the general population. People see this as the result of some sort of nefarious conspiracy but it is just a statistical artifact that is precisely what you would expect given the IQ shift, just as you would expect (and in real life we observe) few if any black science Nobelists given the shift in the other direction.

    As our esteemed blog host Mr. Unz has ably shown, the Ashkenazi IQ premium does not account for the degree of overrepresentation of Jews in Ivy League admissions.

    The non-Jewish 98% of the general population has many, many more bright and very bright people than there are bright and very bright Jews, but nevertheless Jews are still far overrepresented in various elite walks of life for reasons that cannot be accounted for by raw intelligence.

    My surmise is that there are many factors contributing to this phenomenon which includea heaping helping of ethnic nepotism, but which also include the very real possibility that very bright Jewish children are more likely to be born to at least one very bright parent and so their talents and abilities are better incubated and explored through adulthood. The concentration and intergenerational transfer of wealth probably do not hurt either.

  181. anon[357] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    Academia tolerates this, because of administrators who do not want to make a tough decision, and certain groups protecting their own.

    In a private company, he would have been shown the door years ago. Spending your last 10 years being hounded and subtly mocked by a younger superior drives people out, with or without legal protections and tenure. An administrator could just as easily give him a full teaching load, remove funding for any labs, push him off committees, and make him share an office with a post-doc.

    A good manager can make a troublemaker’s life stressful as hell, while still staying within the law.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
  182. Jeff77450 says:
    @Anonymous

    Interesting take. There’s a blogger named Matthew Bates I follow on quora.com. He made the observation that for most of human history life was tenuous. Plagues, wars, invasions, famine, natural disasters…the next one was never too far off. As a result humans evolved to *constantly* be anticipating the next disaster. In the developed world we still have the occasional serious natural disaster, e.g. Hurricane Katrina, but otherwise those threats that could wipe out an entire society, e.g. Carthage, or decimate* it, e.g. the Bubonic plague, no longer exist. So now to meet the “need” to have a catastrophe to struggle against we’ve elevated incredibly miniscule, nit-noid things to the level of threats-to-civilization to fill the void. Miniscule, nit-noid things like who can and can’t use the n-word and other speech, use the women’s restroom, wear a sombrero or hoop earrings; whether a health-insurance policy should pay for birth-control, etc.

    *Yes, I know, strictly speaking decimate means 10% and the Bubonic plague killed a third of the population of Europe. Poetic license.

  183. @Anonymous

    What should the boy have done to prove himself a loyal American/Canadian in your eyes?

    he could maybe speak out against fellow jews in the media who are constantly pushing the anti-white hatred?

    or he could speak out against (((neocons))) who devised a plan whereby the U.S. military would be used to invade/destroy 7 middle east nations in 5 years?

    or he could speak out against his fellow jews who are pushing to bring in increasingly absurd amounts of fake refugees and illegal aliens into this country, in an apparent effort to dispossess the (mostly white) citizens who built it

    or he could speak out against the incredible unwarranted overrepresentation of jews in the Ivy Leagues

    you know, those kind of things

  184. Benjaminl says:

    Off-topic: Christopher Caldwell touches on the World’s Most Important Graph and Affordable Family Formation in the same essay:

    https://www.claremont.org/crb/article/what-is-populism/

    By 2050, Africa is expected to double its population to 2.5 billion. That increment of 1.25 billion young people is roughly twice the present population of Europe. At mid-century, Africa will still be the poorest place on earth, but it will be the richest in young men of military age….

    That is the way Salvini saw it: he was just reacting pragmatically to problems as they came up. He wanted Italy to include in every trade deal it signs with a developing-world country a “repatriation clause” linking economic ties to a willingness to take back migrants. “I think I am paid by my citizens to help our youth to have the babies they used to have a few years ago,” Salvini said, “and not import the best of African youth to replace the Europeans who, for economic reasons, don’t have many children.”

  185. @Jack D

    Leadership is a right tail phenomenon and Jews disproportionally occupy the right tail of IQ by a factor of maybe 10 to 1 vs. their prevalence in the general population.

    per Unz’s numbers on the National Merit Scholarship finalists, there are 10-12x as many whites as jews in the top 16,000 high school seniors every year

    • Replies: @Jack D
  186. Anonymous[217] • Disclaimer says:
    @BenKenobi

    Women (and some gay men) obviously have an innate bio-compulsion to go around finger-wagging and correcting everyone else’s behavior (including sexual/social rivals’ of course). This might be beneficial when applied to child-rearing or schooling; when directed at adults, not so much.

    The malign consequences of this natural fact were pretty limited before the advent of electronic media & audiovisual propaganda along with gay lib. In the TwitterFacebook era they’re inescapable.

  187. @AndrewR

    Obviously NABALT but don’t you think that many of the Boomer stereotypes have a lot of truth to them? If the average Boomer were similar to Sailer then we probably wouldn’t see the same amount of hate directed at them. Boomers as a generation were born on third base and think they hit a triple, and now they are living out their later years on the backs of their kids and grandkids who will never know the prosperity the Boomers have.

    No. Boomers are the brightest, kindest, and most materially successful generation because reasons. One thing I’ve always wondered though is with a generation in which each and every individual was so wonderful – why did they divorce one another in such numbers?

    What you need, Sonny Jim, is to learn a little about hard work and perseverance. You’re still wet behind the ears! How old are you? Oh, thirty-eight. I see. Why, when I was your age I had a house, three kids in private school, a shore house, three mortgages, two boats and two cars to look after – you can imagine that making ends meet was a bit stressful but you don’t see me complaining do you? Why don’t you marry that nice lady of yours and make a go of it like I did? THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS in combined student loan debt? How the hell did you do that? I worked my way through college and paid my tuition with my bartending tips! Maybe you should have thought about that and used a little elbow grease and you wouldn’t find yourself in such a predicament.

    You say your Boss is seventy-five and he’s been coasting for ten years while blocking your career path? Have you tried working harder? Show a little initiative and work late on Christmas Eve – that’s the kind of thing that higher ups will notice and reward.

    • Agree: Autochthon
    • LOL: AndrewR
  188. Anonymous[217] • Disclaimer says:
    @Doug

    After 1943 the resistance to the Nazis wasn’t especially “principled” unless the principle was “Power should be held by me instead of you.” Anti-Nazism was a bandwagon too, they just underestimated the efficacy of German secret policing.

  189. Jeff77450 says:
    @anon

    *sigh* 59-year-old Boomer here. Okay, “Our generation created this mess.” There, I said it. That said, almost every Boomer I’ve ever known has been like me: A (mostly) responsible law-abiding working-stiff trying to make ends meet; *trying* to do right by our families even when divorced; sees the kind of rot in American society described in _Losing Ground_ & _Coming Apart_ by Charles Murray but feels powerless to do anything about it other than to practice personal responsibility and raise our children right (“Be the change you want to see in the world”); untold numbers of us served in every war & military action from Vietnam to at least OIF (ODS for me).

    I, personally, have never been on any form of public assistance, to include unemployment, although I acknowledge there’s a component of luck to that. I’ve never written my representative in Congress and asked for a single thing. But you’re damn right I’m going to take my social security; damn sure am. –Jeff York, MSG, USAR, Retired, writing from Houston, Texas

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  190. @Anonymous

    Brooks is a putz. His son is a mensch. Not complicated.

  191. BenKenobi says:
    @Jack D

    It’s just a statistical anomaly, goy!

  192. Young people make the best fascists.

  193. @Marty

    Harry Edwards and the rest of the SF people calling for a boycott should recall that the Giants came very close to moving (to Tampa/St. Petersburg I believe). Charles Johnson and a number of other bay area wealthy people (Harmon Burns, Peter Magowan, etc) bought the team, essentially as a civic gesture to keep it in town. Since then he and the rest of the ownership group has been mostly hands-off, allowing baseball people to run the team and win three World Series along the way.

    Was Edwards digging into his pockets to help keep the team from moving? Nah, its easier to just bitch and moan.

    Johnson is 85 so gets a pass for not realizing he was doing a favor for awful, ungrateful people.

    In related (doing nice things for terrible people) news, a few years ago Mr. Johnson donated $250 million to his alma mater, Yale. I suspect he doesn’t realize how much has changed since his 1954 graduation.

  194. Art Deco says:
    @anon

    It seems to have escaped you that the discussion concerned problems in workplaces. My ‘cherry-picked’ data compared the composition of the population of those of working age over a certain age (an age selected by the moderator) and those under a certain age. This isn’t that difficult.

  195. @Chris Mallory

    A Boomer who’s not only a wastrel but a blowhard to boot. Whatever you have to tell yourself to make it through the day. The original point stands not only unrefuted but uncontested.

  196. @Alec Leamas

    Alec, Is she sitting on his lap or just taller than him?

  197. Art Deco says:
    @Jack D

    It’s proper to retire such faculty. The question at hand is how many are inclined to nail their feet to the floor. I recall an interview with a faculty member at the institution I know best. He says that ossification among the arts and sciences faculty was a problem there, generated by faculty left over from a particular era in the institution’s history. (The era would be those years prior to 1972, not quite 30 years prior to this interview). I decided to check. Out of about 200-odd professors and lecturers, fewer than 15 were left from that era (a number of whom were just past 60 and would retire in short order, as did the fellow offering the complaint). There were a couple who were knocking about past 80, no more. (The current president of that institution is 55)

  198. JLK says:
    @Jack D

    Leadership is a right tail phenomenon and Jews disproportionally occupy the right tail of IQ by a factor of maybe 10 to 1 vs. their prevalence in the general population.

    It depends on where you consider the “right tail” beginning. The Unz Weyl sampling technique estimated that Jews are only about 6% of National Merit Semifinalists. That’s about a 140 IQ. Only Bill Clinton was a NM Semifinalist among recent Presidents. So “leadership” doesn’t require a super-high IQ. Most lawyers and doctors are in the 120-130 range.

    When you get a few more standard deviations to the right, the proportion of Jews would be expected to rise. About 40% of the highest rated chess players in history (IQ ~175) were Jewish. But that’s rarified territory. When I took the SAT in the ’80s, a perfect score corresponded to an IQ in the high 160s, but there were only a few dozen each year nationally.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
  199. Art Deco says:
    @Logan

    See Hugh Thomas history of the Spanish Civil War. He estimates about 40,000 civilians executed by the Nationalist forces during the war, more than 80,000 by the Republican forces.

    • Replies: @Logan
  200. Anon[134] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    I watched some of the Diet hearings on Japan’s proposed immigration bill. This really seems like a disaster in the making. Supposedly people will be allowed in for five years. Will they be able to stay longer or apply for permanent residency? Prime Minister Abe, in effect: “We’re looking at this issue very carefully and a committee of experts in consultation with the relevant agencies will examine all the data and see to it that the right procedures and regulations get put into efffect, blah, blah, blah.” Translation: Invite the world!

    We’re already seeing, not exactly no-go zones, but Little Myanmar-type areas popping up, with no attempt at assimilation, assuming that Nicolas Wade was wrong and they even can assimmilate. There are women in Islamo-hoodies taking the trains with they impressive broods of rugrats. Up until now immgrants have mainly been part-Japanese Brazilians, Filipinos (whose IQ I don’t know, but who assimilate well and whose children look Japanese), and black Africans, who can easily be rounded up when construction projects decrease.

    The Japanese immigration authorities are world-class bad-assed law enforcers, even kicking out, for instance, kids of illegals whose only language is Japanese, but the immigration guys need to be backed up by the proper laws.

    It’s hard to get across to people outside Japan what a high-trust society this is and how fragile it would be in the face of even moderate increases in immigration.

  201. fish says:
    @densa

    It’s astounding that these people never question where their loyalty to the Democrats is taking them.

    That’s OK Orwell has this one covered nicely!

    Doublethink is the act of simultaneously accepting two mutually contradictory beliefs as correct, often in distinct social contexts. Doublethink is related to, but differs from, hypocrisy and neutrality. Also related is cognitive dissonance, in which contradictory beliefs cause conflict in one’s mind. Doublethink is notable due to a lack of cognitive dissonance—thus the person is completely unaware of any conflict or contradiction.

  202. Art Deco says:
    @TTSSYF

    No, they won’t, because there are hardly any Marxists on arts and sciences faculties. The ones you do find will be in the sociology department. Faculty members seldom utter sophisticated statements outside their disciplines. Their social and political views consist of a complex of attitudes which demarcate Our Crowd from the vulgar people around them.

    • Disagree: TTSSYF
    • Replies: @TTSSYF
    , @Mr. Anon
  203. Altai says:

    OT: I found an amazing article from 2015. Just prior to Eastern and Central Europe becoming fully deplorable.

    Is Eastern Europe Any More Xenophobic Than Western Europe?

    https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:lmqNl_nEa70J:https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/10/xenophobia-eastern-europe-refugees/410800/+&cd=38&hl=en

    Long story short, apparently no and yes. It’s a weird article which effects with it’s title and most body, that yes, of course,Eastern and Central European countries are more xenophobic. (As is infact the case and that also means said persons will advocate against immigration controls in the countries they move to, contra Richard Spencer, bringing in alien ethnic groups who are more ethnocentric or cohesive than the indigenous one is always a mistake it’s just the numbers of Eastern Europeans in the US is very small otherwise they’d get on his nerves pretty fast.)

    But then veers off fearing it might be attempting to praise or suggest Western countries aren’t xenophobic and concludes that all white people are racist and xenophobic. And that perhaps the Netherlands is more racist than Poland somehow.

  204. Anonymous[398] • Disclaimer says:
    @TelfoedJohn

    Far too many people are going to college.

    Seriously, if your subject doesn’t involve dead languages or partial derivatives then you’re wasting your time and would be better off learning a trade.

    • Agree: Desiderius
  205. fish says:
    @Cloudbuster

    Uh-oh, David!

    Are you kidding….this is just the kind of street cred Brooks has been in desperate need of!

    “Things are going to start happening to me now!

    - D. Brooks

  206. donut says:
    @El Dato

    I know BP says all the right things . But even so there’s something that made me draw back when he started pushing bitcoin . We’ll see .

  207. istevefan says:
    @Anonymous

    But what if he hadn’t put his money where his mouth is by joining the IDF? What if he had joined the US or Canadian military? Well he’d be damned for that too. “Signing up to fight wars on behalf of Israel” and all.

    People here don’t condemn individuals for joining the US armed forces. They might complain about the political leadership that deploys them in ways we disagree with, but they don’t condemn the troops. After all, many of us on this blog are former military.

    Brooks’ kid should have joined the US military, assuming he is a US citizen. He was obviously ready, willing and able to serve in a military unit, so he should have served with our armed forces. After all we’ve been in combat situations for 17 years and need all the manpower we can get. And I am assuming young Brooks is probably a highly intelligent guy who could have helped the force.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  208. It’s all about property rights, though. FR is private property and holding RimJob to his statement in federal court that “no censorship is made and all views are permitted” (stated, ironically enough, in an attempt to get himself off the hook for violating intellectual property laws) is pure liberal commie crap which violates his property rights.

    You’re not some sort o’ damn liberal commie, now, are you, boy?

  209. Anon[129] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    Oh stop it. “Other Whites” isn’t a category. Full stop. The history of the developed world is mostly about conflict between vastly differing White tribes, not a collective White tribe against everyone else.

    You have to measure the IQ of each White tribe for your “Ashkenazis is da smartest” propaganda to have any validity whatsoever, which would free smart tribes from the extended leftward long tail IQ distribution of marginally white tribes.

    That mostly is not done because Ashkenazis and others have a vested interest in “Whites” (a group for which they are even trying to include hispanics and arabs, officially) being grouped together, but it has been done. The data exists if you’d care to look for it. When you find it, you’ll see the fraud in your statement.

    Germany, for example, didn’t almost defeat the entirety of the developed world on its own, as a nation the size of a couple of combined USA states, because other nations have an IQ edge on them. Second, you aren’t thanking Jews for modern aerospace. You are thanking the Nazis, as are the Jews. This paragraph could extend as long as you would need it to.

    “The effect” of Ashkenazi Jews having vastly different political privilege and relatively uncorrupted social organization, which allows for unmitigated and even open nepotism as well as collective strategy even from outside of organizations (financial support, political support, etc), is largely why Jews will begin to dominate anywhere they wedge themselves. You can’t begin to measure any IQ effect before you would control for this, and you can’t control for it.

    Your ten to one right tail statement is invented out of whole cloth, and reveals statistical incompetence with all due respect.

    Your IQ argument is representative of a typical and widely used musical chairs / shifting goalposts strategy, on the part of Jews, in order to enhance chances of survival in any environment wherein their consistent aggression will always increase hostility to them over time.

    What does this strategy look like? It looks like the modern political arena inclusive of the rhetoric common in the alt-light phenomenon that is characterized by adaptive Neocon-types. The alt-light niche is walking dead, as is the strategy that you are invoking here.

    Tell me if this looks familiar:

    1. On the back of war trauma for the out-group, work to prohibit sociopolitical classification based on racial types that imply IQ distribution boundaries.

    2. Wait a few decades for the stress fractures in such a society to appear while consolidating power under active racial cooperation.

    3. When society reorients to again fight off the Jewish aggression and tribalism again begins to appear, citing the validity of racial characteristics their implied IQ distributions, then cite simple IQ measurements as the reason for success to draw attention away from active, militant, and privileged (in the manner of a caste system) political action that both led to the political oppression of the competing groups as well as a dysgenic slide.

    Keep citing Jewish IQ as a reason for their success, over what is really going on, and risk being categorized as a puppet.

  210. @kihowi

    Obwandiyag bringin’ the persiphlage!

    More like the coprophage.

  211. donut says:
    @Cloudbuster

    LOL , she’ll be burning that coal soon . I’ll bet in the next frame you can only see the top of her head .

  212. IHTG says:

  213. @Buffalo Joe

    Alec, Is she sitting on his lap or just taller than him?

    I think he’s just happy to see her.

  214. @Anonymous

    This is a ridiculous comment. People around here generally don’t trash U.S. combat soldiers. We feel that their lives are being wasted to protect Israel, but we respect the men. I’ll grant you that we likely would have pointed out that Brooks’ kid might have had more reasons than your average gentile American man to join the military given the location of our wars, but we’d respect that he stayed loyal to his country.

    But he didn’t, did he. The fact that any American or Canadian Jews join the IDF should be shocking (and revealing) to Americans and Canadians and should be shouted from the rooftops until rank-and-file gentile Whites understand that a large number of elite Jews do not view themselves as Americans or Canadians. They view themselves as Jews above all, with little to no loyalty to the countries that treated them as their own and certainly better than any countries before.

    Indeed, what is happening to the U.S. and Canada should be a lesson to every country in the world. Look at how Jews will pay you back if you allow them into your country and allow them access to the levers of power.

  215. vinteuil says: • Website
    @Jack D

    …modern Western civilization is not a pendulum swinging back and forth. Rather, it is a drain and we are circling it. If you are on the boat, you might perceive that sometimes you are traveling in one direction or the other but miss the fact that what you are really doing is circling the drain.

    Is this original? It’s brilliant.

    • Agree: L Woods
    • Replies: @Jack D
  216. @Jeff77450

    A “boomer” is someone whose children think he’s a “homophobe” and whose parents think he’s a faggot.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  217. Anonymous[191] • Disclaimer says:

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/millennial-poll-america-racist-not-great-obama-better-than-washington

    Millennial poll: America ‘racist,’ not ‘great,’ Obama better than Washington

    Younger Americans are turning on the country and forgetting its ideals, with nearly half believing that it isn’t “great” and many eyeing the U.S. flag as “a sign of intolerance and hatred,” according to a new and disturbing survey.

    Those who came of age under former President Barack Obama also have a larger-than-life view of the 44th president and feel that he had a “bigger impact” on the United States than the father of the country and leader of the Revolutionary War, former President George Washington.

  218. ia says:
    @Jack D

    A side effect of Ashkenazi Jews having higher average IQs than other whites is that any organization, unless it is specifically exclusionary (and sometimes even then) will eventually have Jews over-represented in its leadership.

    Pure science having Jews disproportionately in positions of power may or may not make a big difference but when it comes to culture it’s another story altogether. Europeans, or any other people for that matter, should not allow other groups with different myths, brilliant or otherwise, to dominate their culture. Since science by definition is not concerned with gods and heroes and since humans are imitative creatures this stands to reason.

  219. Miro23 says:
    @Anonymous

    @Steve, you are an observer of humanity. Since this thread largely involves generational differences, have you ever looked into the role that rock music played on Baby Boomers, their socialization, and drug use?

    I don’t want to second guess Steve – but it’s an interesting connection.

    Maybe it’s the music that defines the generations. Elvis kicked off the post-WW2 party with Rock & Roll. Woodstock was the Baby Boomers rite of passage with their generic counter-cultural, progressive left “Rock music” variant, and 50 years later they’re still struggling on with it and its aged “stars”.

    If ever there was a dead man walking it’s MSM obligatory wall to wall “Rock music”, same as the scruffy old hippy leftists in hospital waiting rooms.

  220. Jack D says:
    @Toxic Talmudist

    So Jews are not white?

    Correct but there are 50x as many non-Jewish whites in the general population. So the Jewish over-representation factor on National Merit finalists is at least 5 or 6x. The further out you go on the tail, the more the overrepresentation as a statistical matter.

  221. Anon[341] • Disclaimer says:

    Hate Food Speech. Look at the Head Chef.

  222. Jack D says:
    @vinteuil

    Thank you. AFAIK it’s original.

    • Replies: @vinteuil
  223. Anon7 says:
    @Logan

    I don’t agree. The whole point of Progressivism is that it’s one size fits all. It’s perfect for everyone. And if you don’t think so, there’s some part of what you believe that needs to be removed. It’s like the Procrustean bed.

    I don’t think they care about anyone’s feelings, not really. Being sensitive to particular marginalized communities just gives them a hammer with which they can peen everyone. The power to enforce uniformity of speech and belief is what they want.

    Lenin and his crowd talked a lot about “the people”, but when peasants didn’t behave according to doctrine, the secret police rounded them up and shipped them off.

  224. @International Jew

    Jews of course. Ask your national brethren about their flag and you’ll see :)

  225. @Buffalo Joe

    Alec, Is she sitting on his lap or just taller than him?

    And who’s pulling the cord in whose back?

    Anyone remember the 1990s ventriloquist who sat on his giant dummy’s lap? I can’t find him.

  226. Anonymous[416] • Disclaimer says:
    @istevefan

    What if he aspired not to Invade the World ™ but rather defend a small country under actual attack?

  227. vinteuil says: • Website
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Don’t these tech firms make enough to just hire a bunch of black “IT experts” and have them do the equivalent of dig a ditch and fill it back up? Just seems worth it to avoid the publicity. The blacks wouldn’t care that they’re not actually working.

    Trouble is, you’d have to have enough people in positions of authority at these tech firms to tell people, in effect, that their job is to sit there and be black – or, at the very least, to admit to themselves that that’s what they’re doing.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    , @Anonymous
  228. Anonymous[204] • Disclaimer says:
    @El Dato

    “Buried under all of this, like a sober tuber,” * is the realization that his vagina wouldn’t make me happy, either.

    * Did he mean “tuba”?

  229. AndrewR says:
    @Jack D

    I can’t really imagine wanting to work that long but some people clearly live to work even in old age. We have all heard stories about people who drop dead soon after retirement due to a lost sense of purpose. It’s unfortunate if he’s unable to keep working without screwing over younger colleagues.

  230. donut says:

    You’re no fun Sailer .

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
  231. TTSSYF says:
    @Art Deco

    That hasn’t been my experience. And as only a single example — I recently took a continuing education course at the local university in GIS, and several of the problems to work through involved Egypt and various “sacred sites”. Of all the possibilities, why this? No doubt it was chosen to help ram through an acceptance of Islam.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
  232. MarkinLA says:
    @anon

    Oh, and that greatest of the greatest generation, Ronald Reagan gave us the 1986 amnesty, the big lie that there was a tech worker shortage leading to GHWBs (another of the greatest) H-1B scam, “refugees” from central American wars we started, and the neoliberal free trade policies.

    The boomers are to blame for not stopping any of this but were brainwashed by the media and academia.

    • Agree: Dtbb
  233. vinteuil says: • Website
    @Jack D

    Thanks to yourself.

    “Swinging with the Pendulum, or Circling the Drain?” would be the title of an essay I’d rush to read.

  234. Kylie says:
    @Chase

    “… I’m a millennial and can say forthrightly that my generation is totally shit for a number of reasons and still think of myself as not a piece of shit (though others may disagree). This distinction seems to elude most boomers – they really have their personal ego tied up with their cohort. Even the smart ones do this.”

    To my everlasting chagrin, I’m not only a boomer but one from a solidly middle-class area whose cohorts are all far to the left of her. I looked up a few coevals on Facebook last night and was utterly disgusted. They’ve all existed in a comfortable bubble all their lives, revere the NYT and spew the Party line. They have never had any skin in any game. (Remember, these are people I knew well for decades.) There’s not one whose life I’d cross the street to save.

    And to add insult to injury, due to an accident of birth, I’m lumped in with them. I can’t blame those who loathe the boomers and aren’t particularly keen on separating the few specks of gold from the overwhelming amount of dross.

    • Agree: Miro23
  235. TTSSYF says:
    @anon

    You make some excellent points and also, the passage of the 1965 immigration act didn’t involve Boomers. So maybe it’s less having to do with immigration or being Boomers per se and more a result of my second point; i.e., that Americans, since the end of WWII, have had it too good for too long and lost touch with reality. I do feel bad for how my generation is leaving our country for the upcoming generations, but all I can tell them is I voted against most if not all of this nonsense every chance I had, and I’m prepared to make some sacrifices to help (e.g., less social security or Medicare benefits).

  236. phil says:
    @Doug

    Google manipulation of search listings, Facebook, censorship, Twitter censorship, Antifa, the banning of Holocaust denialism, deplatforming of conservatives scheduled to speak on campus,,,I think I see a pattern.

    At the same time, there are individual Jews who champion individual liberty, but they are a small minority of the activist Jews.

  237. MarkinLA says:
    @anon

    But how did the 1965 immigration law cause the $22 trillion in debt? Or render states insolvent with bloated pensions? Or Medicare Part D? Or the housing bubble? Or increasing college tuition? Or outsourcing of white collar jobs?

    Didn’t Reagan prove that deficits don’t matter?

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
    , @MarkinLA
  238. Corvinus says:

    “A simple explanation for this pattern is that older people in America tend to be quite white, and white people tend to believe in the Bill of Rights and other old-fashioned notions. Younger people tend to be much more diverse, and the diverse don’t have all that much time for liberties, universal principles, reason, objectivity, and other problematic concepts.”

    It’s not simple, and it’s not really an explanation. Rather, it is pandering to the base. Perhaps young people are about “liberties, universal principles, reason, and objectivity” in a way that Mr. Sailer and the Alt Right finds personally troubling, and therefore are compelled to label their adversaries in this manner.

    “Audacious Epigone has documented from General Social Survey data that IQ/vocabulary correlates closely with support for freedom of speech”

    Except numerous high IQ company owners are also in the business of denying certain customers opportunities to express their positions on their platforms.

    Except numerous high IQ college administrators are also preventing certain people from expressing themselves on campus.

    Except numerous **high IQ white southerners** relied on perpetual aggression to impose themselves on black southerners who dared to exercise their free speech rights when protesting Jim Crow laws. (**well, maybe they were not that bright after all).

    Except those who are more religious and/or more conservative also tend to support censorship of ideas. For example, in 2012, the Texas GOP platform insisted that “We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority.”

    Of course, the Audacious and Mr. Sailer seemingly forget that correlation does not equal causation, and so they are trigger happy to make it appear that low IQ types on average, especially those who are non-white, desire to gut First Amendment. The reality here is they are sperging by implying that free speech is naturally instinctive in white Europeans due to their “unique genetic endowment”. Perhaps they should recall that revolutionaries and reactionaries BOTH demand freedom of speech when they seek to remove those in charge, and they demand its suppression when they are in positions of authority.

    • Troll: fish
  239. @anon

    Of course, the trouble is that the same phenomenon ensures

    A good shitty manager can make a troublemaker’s brighter and objectively more talented and productive worker’s life stressful as hell, while still staying within the law.

    Which is why corporations, the military, and academia are all spiraling into shit under the Peter Principle.

  240. Corvinus says:
    @Cloudbuster

    Good looking family. What’s your problem?

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  241. @Tiny Duck

    People perceive things to be fair, when they happen to be the way they like. Actually that’s not true. People never see things as fair. Humans don’t even have a sense of fairness, just for unfairness. The humans who didn’t feel it, didn’t fight for achieving their goals against others. Human civilization is a graveyard of the fair-minded. We are the descendants of ruthless winners, who would rather kick over the table, than fairly loose.

    So claims of fairness are never compelling and always utterly stupid.

    Also tea partiers are grandparents. Their children are way too old to be proud boys.
    The KKK is a 20s thing (3 to 6 Million back then, 5 to 8 thousand now). Members of the current KKK are just silly people with white hats larping. If they ever commit a serious crime again, they’d be utterly destroyed within weeks. They don’t want that. They wanna BBQ in their sweet outfits and pretend they matter. Or be edgy. Probably just some BDSM/role-play-fanrasy thing, i don’t get, tbh.

    Your boogeyman is about as dangerous as the American poodle-breeder association.

  242. Anon[149] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    At best we’ll have different “oppressed” communities (black, trans, whatever) sticking up for their own and only for their own. No mercy otherwise.

    JAG — Jew-worship, Afro-worship, and ‘gay’-worship — constitutes what is holy in the West.

  243. Anonymous[287] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    When and where did this happen?

  244. MarkinLA says:
    @vinteuil

    There are people of every race at every company who are quite willing to do nothing all day and get paid for it. WE had plenty at Hughes Aircraft Company. The problem with minorities is what happens when you need to fire them. You just can the whites and sweeten their exit package. They know they were useless and are glad to go without a fuss. The minorities will sue you for discrimination, and win if they get the right jury.

    We had two at Hughes, a black and Hispanic. Their supposed job description was creating policies that would lead to more minority hiring in engineering positions. You can’t just say their job was to cash their paycheck. Obviously, they probably did nothing of any real value because EVERYBODY getting government contracts was doing everything they could to hire minorities. However, the companies were also under pressure to promote minorities. That meant super high performance ratings for these employees so they could be on the fast track to promotion. Since they were useless HR people not needed during the defense layoffs of the early 90s, they got the boot. Those employee evaluations were the basis for the discrimination suits they filed. The jury awarded them the equivalent of 50 years of their yearly salaries.

  245. @Reg Cæsar

    Oddly enough, they’re both right!

  246. TTSSYF says:
    @MarkinLA

    I think that was Cheney under GWB, and it was when the deficits were about $200 billion. It was an off-hand remark, not meant to be taken to an extreme.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  247. MarkinLA says:
    @MarkinLA

    Try turning your sarcasm detector on sometimes. Reagan tripled the national debt even as he lambasted Carter for his increase in the national debt. This thread was about the boomers screwing the country but nobody stuck it in more than St. Ronnie.

  248. MarkinLA says:
    @TTSSYF

    #255 was for you.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  249. @Buffalo Joe

    Thanks – But I need to spend more time proof reading my knee jerk comments. :/

  250. Joe Walker says: • Website

    I don’t believe that Brooks really cares about the free speech rights of the average American. I think he is worried that the antifa-types will try and stop him from engaging in Zionist propaganda.

  251. @Jack D

    “A side effect of Ashkenazi Jews having higher average IQs than other whites is that any organization, unless it is specifically exclusionary (and sometimes even then) will eventually have Jews over-represented in its leadership.”

    So you admit that Jews are running most of the international criminal enterprises currently taking place within western civilization.

    I, for one, appreciate your candor in the matter. :)

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Samuel Skinner
  252. @Alec Leamas

    He should ask her for the name of her orthodontist.

  253. @donut

    I’m guessing you made a comment sexual in nature in reference to the photo of Mr. Brooks, his wife, and their surrogate father.

    If it makes you feel better Steve flushes my comments that make similar references, but the real fun is pushing the limit to see what actually gets approved.

  254. Alice says:
    @James Speaks

    We can quibble, but I think it’s just nits. We largely agree.

    It’s possible to encourage enough clear thinking, because reality doesn’t invade fast enough, it’s necessary but not sufficient. Our society is too “advanced”–too removed from basic natural hostility. We’ve gotten to a society where one can deny the reality of male and female without immediate consequences. The elites can deny the reality of race without immediate consequences to them.

    But in space, or under water, or on Mars, the margin of safety is too thin to deny reality.

    I think training as a scientist or engineer or working a dangerous job is what is required so you can get off the planet and into a hostile environment. There, free speech matters again–because lies kill.

    So do everything possible to get your kids a degree in physics or math before it’s totally corrupted, and get them to a job with bipolar Musk or Bezos or Thiel and get off the planet.

  255. @MarkinLA

    Thanks. That’s kind of what I figured.

    If I was in a hiring position, I’d be terrified to hire a black or Hispanic – but especially a black.

    I’m done with the whole thing. I quit. I have enough money to get by so I’m going Galt on this world. It’ll take them awhile to fire me. Granted, I won’t get a lawsuit in my favor, but it’ll take a couple of years before I’m kicked out. By that time, I should be in good shape.

    Invest well, my friends.

    • Replies: @bomag
  256. TTSSYF says:
    @MarkinLA

    Maybe you shouldn’t have used a phrase that is so famously and frequently linked with Cheney. Yes, Reagan did run up large deficits, but it brought about the collapse of the USSR. He wasn’t a saint, but he didn’t “stick it in more” than Obama, under whom the national debt doubled from about $10 trillion to nearly $20 trillion and with nothing to show for it.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  257. @MikeatMikedotMike

    Steve’s a good guy, and he respects a bit decorum. He’s right.

    My issue is with Steve is more political/tactical. I started way behind Steve and yet I’ve moved past him. It sure as hell isn’t because I’m smarter than him. Steve is refusing to accept that his strategy has failed. Logic and wit will not win the day with the crew that is taking over.

    It’s becoming a bar fight, and Steve still thinks (or hopes) that it’s a debate. Steve’s arguments are right, but nobody cares. Brooks is Steve’s audience, but Brooks, by his own admission, is on his way out.

    What next Steve?

  258. @AndrewR

    I didn’t think you, of all people, were cautious about ascribing malicious motives to people…

    Mostly true.

    That’s why Trump’s “enemy of the people” line is so triggering to the corporate media: they know it’s true and that their power derives from fooling people into thinking the media is on the people’s side.

    Totally true.

  259. 3g4me says:
    @obwandiyag

    @16 obwandiyag: “Divide and conquer isn’t a boardgame. It is the name of this game. Instead of fighting back against ID politics agitation, you should be ignoring it. But instead, you play the ID politics game just as hard as they do.”

    Ya know, ole bandy legs, that “the elites are playing the divide and conquer game” thing just doesn’t resonate with me. I mean, considering I already despise you and your folks, and various other tribes and identities – I think division – meaning Separate Countries – is an excellent idea. Jus’ sayin’ . . . .

  260. anon[348] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    We, as a nation, have never been softer, more cowardly, more pathetic, more distant from the physical struggle of life…and yet we’re as vicious and hateful and spiteful and vindictive as we’ve ever been. Maybe the two are related: material wealth has spiritually impoverished us.

    In other words, we’ve all become Jews.

    Sad for America, and for the world.

  261. Bubba says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Character, always character. Good one! That reminds of Gene Kelly solemnly saying, “Dignity, always dignity” in Singing In The Rain.

    http://www.tcm.com/mediaroom/video/1102506/Singin-In-The-Rain-Movie-Clip-Dignity-Always-Dignity.html

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  262. Ragno says:
    @anon

    Things may be swinging back in the other direction. I have kids in high school and they and their friends are big fans of Jordan Peterson and reject the whole Antifa/transgender/left wing lunacy. I know of white kids who just entered college who said they want big families, and I live in leftism gone wild left coast. I think that’s good news.

    Great to hear. So unless, say, highly-placed shitlib sleeper agents twist policy to drown us in tens of millions of wall-eyed third-world flotsam, all of them subsidized by tax monies to crank out uber-big families and – of course – vote Tammany every November…..which they would never do cuz it would be wrong…..the thundering hooves of Generation Jordan Peterson are a mortal lock to reclaim and redeem our beloved republic any day now!

    Good thing, too. Do you know that for a minute there I was actually starting to worry?

  263. @Miro23

    Antifa militants will generate a militant Nationalist reaction.

    Yes. At this point violence looks inevitable. The left, through their Democrat minions and Republican enablers will not back down. They have the commanding heights, and have met little resistance so far. That they have overplayed their hand not only has not occurred to them. There will be a point of no return, and then the question is whether we will (1) want to constrain, or (2) be able to constrain, the zealots on our side.

  264. anon[348] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    “I think it’s a strange day for gay culture when we start banning something because it makes us uncomfortable,” Hermance says. “Especially when that thing is a foundation of gay literature. If we pulled all the books that had adult-youth sexual themes, we wouldn’t have many novels, memoirs, or biographies left.”

    Seriously effing sick. This is the same way liberals indoctrinate our youth – you start them young. I suspect a large majority of gay men were molested growing up, then grow up to do their own pedophilia. It’s how they expand the gay community, by “grooming” young boys into their lifestyle from a young age. Gays are people who are morally bankrupt, sick in the head, sick in the heart.

  265. anon[348] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    Brilliant and spot on. Brooks is a useful idiot for the left.

  266. @Stick

    There’s nothing secular about our religious wars. Once you understand this you will understand that reason is no way to play this game.

    Okay, let us jettison reason. Now tell me how to play this game, and play this game to win.

  267. anon[348] • Disclaimer says:
    @Clifford Brown

    99% of China people in the west are corrupt, either criminal bosses as depicted here, or corrupt government officials or corrupt businessmen.

    As of 2016, the average urban household income in China is only US$4,500 a year. Average rural income is less than $1,500 a year. Where does the average Chinese get US$500k to buy an EB5 visa or spend US$200k to send a kid to college in the US? Obviously only the very rich can afford to, and in a country so corrupt, no one can get rich without being corrupt, either by taking bribes or giving them, or outright committing crime by selling drugs, smuggling etc.

    We need to stop all immigration from China and India, period. Both countries are massively corrupt and only the massively corrupt are emigrating over here. The Indians in tech are great at sending fake resumes, and all the “outsourcing” firms like Infosys, TCS, Wipro etc. are really in the human trafficking business.

  268. L Woods says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    I’ve learned that he doesn’t like it when I compare sundry leftists and establishment conservatives to rodents and insects. Who knew?

  269. @MarkinLA

    So if everybody else uses identity politics and I don’t, I somehow win? Is that what you are saying? What exactly do I win when everything is being taken from me by not defending myself?

    obiwangdang is going for the double bank shot – pretend that passive observation born of embracing his occult knowledge will allow you to rise above the fray. Because then, and only zen, you will reach total consciousness, just like Carl Spackler.

    It never works.

  270. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Jack D

    This is vaguely true but is overtaken by uniquely hyper-aggressive organizationalism and a need to just sta’t a movement, which has little to do with intellect.

  271. @Jamie_NYC

    And this inability to recognize the motive is why Right keeps losing. Btw., Bolsheviks came to power in the same manner: their opponents kept discussing principles, while they strived for power using any and all means.

    But we are not a nation of 1% aristocrats and 99% serfs like the Rus. And I cite Donald Trump as exhibit A contradicting your claim regarding principle discussion.

  272. @Citizen of a Silly Country

    It is Steve’s blog and he can run it as he wishes; my observation shouldn’t be misinterpreted as a complaint.

    But I agree with you – civility will not win the day for our side.

  273. @Harry Baldwin

    He should ask her for the name of her orthodontist.

    Nope, that isn’t what vampires do. It interferes with their retractable fangs.

    • LOL: Harry Baldwin
  274. @JLK

    I suspect Jewish neurotic intensity is a more likely explanation than IQ.

  275. @Charles Pewitt

    Merry Christmas!

    Merry Christmas to you Charles Pewitt! May your Yuletide be a high tide of unexpected fortune, and your New Year be at least as good as the hearty laughs your posts produce. :-)

  276. @Jack D

    what you are really doing is circling the drain

    To quote you yourself Jack, “it is the way of the world.”

    We should be grateful for the world we inherited, because virtually all of human history has been markedly worse that what we experienced.

    And yes, I know that it sucks to be cheated out of your patrimony. And yes, I am angry about it.

  277. @TTSSYF

    That supports Art’s point more than yours. There is no reason Marxism should embrace Islam. The strange new respect that Islam has gained in the recent past, is just bien pensant attitudinizing (Intersectionality and related crap), that demarcates the good people from the deplorables.

  278. anon[348] • Disclaimer says:
    @Doug

    All generalizations are false. Over 70% of non-college educated white women voted for Trump, and nearly 50% of college educated ones did as well.

    • Replies: @Anon
  279. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @MarkinLA

    I didn’t personally witness this but have heard it from three former McDonnell-Douglas St. Louis employees, over a 25 year period. They didn’t know each other. Take or leave it as you will.

    Apparently, there was a guy that would come in at the start of his shift, head for the toilet, stay there 4 hours, come out for lunch, go back to the toilet, finish out his shift, clock out and go home. This would have been in the building that said “MCDONNELL DOUGLAS” in huge letters, I think both the Phantom and the Gemini spacecraft were built there.

    Did this every day for a long, long time. At least a couple of years. Maybe a decade.

    Finally, somehow, they busted him, and fired him, but it took a long time.

    Apparently the key was that he did it all the time, so there was no supervisor to report him missing.

  280. @Fred Boynton

    perky breasts and tight, shapely backside

    You should not underestimate them. It is what drew my attention to Mrs. Wilson before she became Mrs. Wilson.

    Of course David Brooks should not have been recruiting a researcher from his local high school.

  281. Anonymous[398] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    The currently popular way to get rid of people like this is to accuse them sex-harassment.

  282. anon[348] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Well, I’m not sure if there is a correlation between high IQ and support for freedom of speech. Look at East Asians.

    Or all those snow flakes on our elite campuses.

  283. Mr. Anon says:
    @Bubba

    Character, always character. Good one! That reminds of Gene Kelly solemnly saying, “Dignity, always dignity” in Singing In The Rain.

    It reminded me of the same thing.

  284. Simon says:
    @Doug

    As you can see, the monomaniacs who answered you are just going to double down. With them, everything triggers the same response.

  285. Mr. Anon says:
    @Art Deco

    No, they won’t, because there are hardly any Marxists on arts and sciences faculties.

    He said socialist, not necessarily marxist. And you don’t think there are a lot of faculty members in the “Arts” part of “Arts and Sciences” who aren’t socialists? There are a lot who are marxists too.

    Get out of your library more often, you witless tool.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  286. So does that mean the executives and major stockholders of the network effect monopolies are morons?

  287. Jack D says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    Jews are not big on violent crime nowadays but sure, financial fraud, Bernie Madoff, Medicaid fraud, any kind of complex white collar crime – Jews are over-represented.

  288. Mr. Anon says:
    @Corvinus

    Good looking family. What’s your problem?

    I guess you figure this is a good looking family too:

    Assuming you’re white, I hope your family starts to look that way too.

    Enjoy the diversity.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
  289. Jack D says:
    @Fred Boynton

    First of all – goy – singular, goyim -plural.

    2nd, Brooks 1st wife was also originally a Christian (she converted to Judaism and changed her name from Jane to Sarah). So I think that Alec was more on point. Many high status men (Trump) regularly trade in their wives when the old model is starting to show some wear and tear.

  290. Svigor says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    No they won’t. The youth are a bunch of conformist drones.

  291. Anonymous[398] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    The real story here is the general shrinkage of economic opportunity for middle class people. In the old days, ambitious young people frustrated by lack of promotion would simply walk out and join another company, or start their own business to compete with their old employer. Nowadays that means professional suicide and economic ruin. People must fight ever harder for the shrinking number of good jobs that remain.

  292. Anon[237] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    All generalizations are false.

    According to people who have autism and only know how to interpret things hyper-literally.

    In the real world, you’d be completely unable to function in any society without using heuristics on a minute-to-minute basis.

  293. @Anonymous

    Canadian? If Brooks’ family is that confused about their loyalties maybe he’s not the best person to tell those of us who are not confused what’s in our best interests.

  294. @Mr. Anon

    Why does the caption on the picture of Boehner say he’s anti-drug? He’s fronting for an investment group that is planning to profit from marijuana legalization.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/boehners-next-chapter-former-speaker-pitches-investors-on-marijuana-industry

  295. Anonymous[658] • Disclaimer says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    It’s becoming a bar fight, and Steve still thinks (or hopes) that it’s a debate. Steve’s arguments are right, but nobody cares. Brooks is Steve’s audience, but Brooks, by his own admission, is on his way out.

    Truer words never spoken. Ditto (or worse) for the Derb. He’s even admitted he is afraid to talk about the zionists. It is slowly becoming clear that some disruption would be needed to set things on the ‘right’ track. And no, not the kind of (fake) disruption we see every four years or so. Voting wouldn’t help at all. Trump only delays the inevitable by say a decade. Pence is a full blown zionist bootlicker in waiting. If Trump is impeached (despite his overt moves to appease them), pence would move in. And he’s a ‘true’ believer. Wouldn’t mind destroying whatever remains of this country by starting a war with Iran.

    The key here is to red pill as many personnel from the lower levels of the ‘security’ apparatus as possible. Best is to discourage as many people from joining the military as possible. And red-pilling as many enlisted grunts as possible. I can understand the pull of the omnipresent army recruiters in economically devastated hinterlands (perhaps that was the whole reason to move jobs out to China; to provide a steady stream of willing guinea pigs). But it must be countered on a community level.

    At the end of the day, this can ONLY happen when whites re-gain their race consciousness and develop the kind of community bonds that have made groups like the Chinese, the hindoos and even the diaspora arabs way more successful than us. They don’t let one of their own fall and wither away like we do. Unless this happens expect more of the same until things become really really difficult for the most of us. Extreme financial hardship almost always precipitates a sort of a ‘revolution’ but it also involves a lot of unnecessary bloodshed due to pent up emotions. Better to sort things out before that

  296. Anon[244] • Disclaimer says: • Website
    @utu

    But who gave the go-ahead?

  297. @MikeatMikedotMike

    International criminal enterprises are exempt from affirmative action and thus tend to be ethnic affairs. That said, when you let Jews in, you get Jewish gangsters- Bugsy Siegel being the most famous example.

  298. Corn says:
    @Anonymous

    That was probably my uncle.

  299. Art Deco says:
    @Mr. Anon

    their ultimately unworkable socialist/Marxist

    He said “their ultimately unworkable socialist/Marxist “.

    And you don’t think there are a lot of faculty members in the “Arts” part of “Arts and Sciences” who aren’t socialists?

    Yep. I guarantee you their stated opinions on political economy are (1) a portfolio of complaints about (often fanciful) injuries to their prerogatives, job prospects, or income; (2) complaints that the world is run by stupid and vulgar people (stupid people meaning Republican politicians and the occupational groups who produce Republican politicians); and that the world is run by (or influenced by) vicious people. Oh, and the lesbian theatre professor will jabber about a great display of sex toys she recently saw at a conference. Very few know much about Marxism beyond half remembered bits of undergraduate course work, nor do they care anything about it.

    • Agree: vinteuil
  300. Ibound1 says:
    @Prester John

    We will indeed be ruled by the type of man who “did not care to give reasons or even to be right” – it is enough that he will impose his opinions upon us.

  301. Ibound1 says:
    @Anonymous

    I know someone who did that at a large California oil company during a very flush time – the key was the company had two buildings. She was a paralegal working on some gigantic lawsuit – paper pushing and she said she could hang out between the two buildings all day and no one would even miss her.

  302. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Marty T

    It’s not about low-iq Steve. I doubt these young workers Brooks is talking about are the janitors or cafeteria workers. Much more likely they attended top colleges, which seem to have the worst leftist bias in America.

    The reason they don’t want freedom of speech is because they feel they have all the cultural power and they want to keep it.

    Yep.

    High IQ over-educated types are less likely to value freedom of speech because they assume they are always right and that anyone who disagrees with them must automatically be wrong.

  303. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Miro23

    That’s what it looks like, but action also breeds reaction – Antifa militants will generate a militant Nationalist reaction.

    That’s how it worked in Spain prior to the Civil War. Bolshevik style aggression radicalized the traditional monarchist and religious right

    The difference is that the Spanish Republicans did not have time to turn the education system into an effective indoctrination mechanism. So the opposing forces in society were still in existence and were able to strike back.

    That’s not the case today. There is no traditionalist or nationalist or religious core on which to base any opposition. Fifty years of remorseless indoctrination has wiped out any such base.

  304. dfordoom says: • Website
    @anon

    Just once, I would like to hear a Boomer say, “Our generation created this mess.”

    Every generation over the past century has made its contribution to the mess. The beginnings of the mess can be dated back at least to the First World War, or even earlier. Bad ideas have dominated human history since the 19th century. Most of the worst ideas had already gained a major foothold when the Boomers were still in nursery school.

    Inter-generational bickering is pointless and foolish. It distracts attention away from the real villains.

  305. dfordoom says: • Website
    @JMcG

    The Spanish Civil War is the model I believe most useful for understanding the course of our country these last years. There is a large difference though: The institutional Christian churches are on the left now.

    Yep. Christianity as it currently exists is as big a menace as marxism ever was.

  306. MarkinLA says:
    @TTSSYF

    Reagan didn’t bring about the collapse of the USSR any more than Kennedy, LBJ, Nixon, or Carter did. Did you notice the date the USSR was dissolved? Reagan wasn’t President by then. As for the national debt – Reagan tripled it in 8 years. Obama only doubled it.

    None of them were worth pissing on if they were on fire.

  307. @Anonymous

    Boss makes a dollar.
    I make a dime.
    That’s why I shit
    on company time.

    In all seriousness, that sounds tremendously boring. I think the workday goes quicker when you are doing actual work.

  308. dfordoom says: • Website
    @TTSSYF

    I believe this mess is directly related to the change in the immigration laws in 1965

    Lots of things contributed to the mess. The increasing power of mass media. The expansion of university education. The introduction of the contraceptive pill. The inherent corruption of American democracy. The growing power of the military-industrial complex. The gradual evolution of capitalism towards its present globalist form. The collapse of Christianity. Too much prosperity.

  309. MarkinLA says:
    @Anonymous

    I had a friend who worked at one of the El Segundo divisions of Hughes. He told me they had a guy that was completely worthless. This was during the Reagan years when money was just being flushed down the toilet. Nobody in his department wanted to spend the necessary time and effort to document his worthlessness to fire him and there were no defense layoffs in sight. They gave him an office off to the corner where he was out of sight and assigned his work to other people.

    He could have stayed until the defense layoffs of the 90s if they hadn’t caught him smoking a joint in the parking lot and had an immediate fire-able offense. The really funny part, according to my friend, is during interviews of prospective new-hires, they would tell the tale of how they had to get rid of an employee who didn’t measure up.

    At my plant we also had a guy who would sneak off and sleep in his car. He only got caught because the boss came back after some appointment and the parking lot was full so he had to park way in the back and (by dumb luck) happened to walk by that car on his way to his office. Everybody (at his low level) knew that guy couldn’t be found for hours a day, many probably knew where he was.

  310. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Jack D

    Strauss & Howe are wrong – modern Western civilization is not a pendulum swinging back and forth. Rather, it is a drain and we are circling it. If you are on the boat, you might perceive that sometimes you are traveling in one direction or the other but miss the fact that what you are really doing is circling the drain.

    You’ve described out situation perfectly.

  311. @Anonymous

    Best is to discourage as many people from joining the military as possible.

    Wrong. Having our people in the military will prevent the LibTards from using the military to enslave us.

    • Replies: @TRASH(NOT)
  312. @dfordoom

    There is no traditionalist or nationalist or religious core on which to base any opposition. Fifty years of remorseless indoctrination has wiped out any such base.

    If that were true you would not be able to see the post you have written.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  313. @dfordoom

    Yep. Christianity as it currently exists is as big a menace as marxism ever was.

    Yeah, that damned Golden Rule should abolished. Nice one-dimensional, short-term analysis there doofdoom.

    Get rid of Christianity? That is how we got here. You accept the Left’s perverse interpretation of Christianity, and if your view were to be adopted we would be deprived of two millennia of cultural capital.

    Would you reject American Eagle gold coins because fool’s gold exists? Then why would you use the Straw Man argument you presented against Christianity?

    You are playing into their hands.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  314. @MarkinLA

    Reagan didn’t bring about the collapse of the USSR any more than Kennedy, LBJ, Nixon, or Carter did

    Right, and Babe Ruth didn’t hit the home run he hit after he called it, and then hit it out of the park, either. Right Spanky? But Reagan put in place a policy choice to win the cold war in 1981, and he won it. As Kant said, “The actual proves the possible.” Democrats are all about ‘managing the decline that results from our policy choice to decline’. And you are their herald.

    Reagan won the cold war. Carter worked incessantly to try to find a way to surrender to the Soviets without triggering a civil war. But Reagan thought we should not be enslaved. You think you will be the slavemaster, but you are deceived.

    Democrats are the champions of tyranny. Thanks for demonstrating that you too champion tyranny.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  315. bomag says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    I’m going Galt on this world… Invest well, my friends.

    But will there be a system that generates anything in which to invest; or honors past investments? Will any Galt Gulches be available?

  316. Anonymous[658] • Disclaimer says:
    @vinteuil

    The indian[dot] dominated tech industry regularly keeps whites out. Infact modern tech has become their fiefdom with the Chinese playing second fiddle

    Lots of working class americans were deceived when manufacturing jobs vaporized that they’ve still got to look forward to a ‘high-tech’ economy. Huh! Now the Indians completely dominate the industry and they wield their power like a feudal chief would. They even discriminate among themselves over caste and creed. Yet since they are brown [read 'oppressed'] no one can touch them.

    I personally know many many white engineers lives have been turned upside down since the tech invasion began in the mid 90s. They are now entrenched. From hiring managers to middle managers to staffing company heads, almost everyone everywhere is a freakin Indian [dot]. They are “blacks with brains’, verbally loquacious with chutzpah to match. Hate whitey in their dark hearts but with a smile on their ugly face.

    There have been lawsuits upon lawsuits but to no avail. They’ve got quite the lobby and like that other (((tribe))), can easily buy and sell our CONgress’men’. It just ‘zucks’ through and through. Their wet dream is to see white paupers and they constantly show it in their crappy movies. A rich Indian man having a white butler, a white mistress and servants, living off the good life in an English castle-esque house somewhere in the english countryside. I can vouch for the deadly after affects “legal” immigration of these people on us.

  317. Miro23 says:
    @dfordoom

    The difference is that the Spanish Republicans did not have time to turn the education system into an effective indoctrination mechanism. So the opposing forces in society were still in existence and were able to strike back.

    That’s not the case today. There is no traditionalist or nationalist or religious core on which to base any opposition. Fifty years of remorseless indoctrination has wiped out any such base.

    The Spanish Republican government was politically Democratic leftist, but allied to hard left Bolshevik inspired groups running their own private militias targeting political opponents (culminating in the murder of leading traditionalist politician Calvo Sotelo and triggering the Spanish Civil War). At the end, the Democratic leftists were scared of their Bolshevik allies, and refused to condemn the church burnings, land invasions and murders.

    The big cities (Madrid, Barcelona) and industrial regions were Republican with the traditionalists living in these places keeping a low profile to avoid leftist violence. Many were still arrested and imprisoned , and when it finally became clear to the radical left that they were going to lose the civil war, they started busing them places like Paracuellos where they were all shot on arrival and buried in mass graves ( ref. Julius Ruiz’s excellent book “The “Red Terror” and the Spanish Civil War”). https://www.amazon.com/Red-Terror-Spanish-Civil-Revolutionary/dp/1107682932/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1543564721&sr=1-1&keywords=The+%27Red+Terror%27+and+the+Spanish+Civil+War%3A+Revolutionary+Violence+In+Madrid

    Like the US there was a regional political divide with the large cities and their surrounding areas leftist Republican and the rest of the regions traditionalist/Nationalist. The military and the police split between Republican and Nationalist (army more nationalist and navy more republican) making the basis for the civil war. Some of the hard left militias (for example in Barcelona) spend plenty of time fighting each other (ref. Orwell’s “Homage to Catalonia” – he was there).

  318. MarkinLA says:
    @Charles Erwin Wilson II

    Grow up already. The Cold War was a massive waste of money, men, and energy that could (and should have) been spent elsewhere. Do you really think unleashing Islamic fundamentalism or flooding the US with central American refugees was some brilliant trade-off?

    As for Carter – he started the mess in Afghanistan, Reagan just put it into overdrive.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    , @Logan
  319. @Charles Erwin Wilson II

    And do what exactly? Kill and die for the glory of “greater Israel”??

    You do know that our military is hardly if ever deployed in the mainland right? They are for “those” brown folks over there, defending our “ally” against the hordes? Or perhaps clearing some ground so our “allies” can find a bit of “lebensraum”

    Here in the mainland, we have the militarized police and the reserves. They are the ones who’d be called in to maintain “order” should the badwhites try to do something. It is they who need to be red-pilled massively. Joining the military is like signing your life away for the glory of Israel while the (((bankers))) sell off your nation to the incoming brown hordes (in the form of legal and illegal immigration) while you are killing and dying for their (((buddies))) in the sandbox

  320. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Charles Erwin Wilson II

    There is no traditionalist or nationalist or religious core on which to base any opposition. Fifty years of remorseless indoctrination has wiped out any such base.

    If that were true you would not be able to see the post you have written.

    I’m talking about a base on which successful opposition could be mounted. A handful of disgruntled dissidents such as us does not constitute such a base. We’re so insignificant we can be safely ignored. Which is why we are ignored.

  321. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Charles Erwin Wilson II

    Get rid of Christianity? That is how we got here. You accept the Left’s perverse interpretation of Christianity

    The problem is that mainstream Christianity, especially mainstream Protestantism, accepts the Left’s perverse interpretation of Christianity. They accept that that is what Christianity is and should be about is Social Justice.

    It would be nice to think that Christianity could be recaptured for the cause of civilisation but I don’t see it happening. I see Christianity becoming more and more indistinguishable from cultural marxism. And more dangerous, because so many dim-witted Christians and supposed conservatives still delude themselves into seeing Christianity as a positive thing.

    Christianity also has inherent problems. Its universalism makes it deadly in today’s world.

    Christianity today is globalist, feminist and homosexual-worshipping. It is materialistic. It is shallow and hopelessly feminised.

  322. Logan says:
    @Art Deco

    Ah, but the Nationalists also got to execute people after winning the war, running up their total.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    , @dfordoom
  323. TTSSYF says:
    @MarkinLA

    In absolute numbers, I’ll take Reagan’s tripling of the debt in the 1980s to Obama’s doubling of the national debt from 2008 – 2016 any day.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  324. Art Deco says:
    @MarkinLA

    Grow up already. The Cold War was a massive waste of money, men, and energy that could (and should have) been spent elsewhere. Do you really think unleashing Islamic fundamentalism or flooding the US with central American refugees was some brilliant trade-off? As for Carter – he started the mess in Afghanistan, Reagan just put it into overdrive.

    Thanks for the political fantasy. It’s been an education.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  325. Art Deco says:
    @Logan

    And you fancy the Republicans, who blew away more non-combatants than the Nationalists while controlling a population base that averaged roughly 1/3 of that of the Nationalists, would have been sweet reason had they won? (The mortality rate of priests and religious in Barcelona was 80%).

    • Replies: @Logan
  326. MarkinLA says:
    @Art Deco

    Then please enlighten me. I worked in defense during the Reagan years. I know what waste is.

  327. MarkinLA says:
    @TTSSYF

    Yeah a dollar today is worth exactly the same as in 1980. Not to mention the state of the economy in 2008.

  328. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Logan

    Ah, but the Nationalists also got to execute people after winning the war, running up their total.

    Yep. Had the Republicans won they would have carried out a bloodbath on the grand scale.

  329. Logan says:
    @Art Deco

    I have no doubt the Reds would have killed a lot of people had they won, perhaps even more than the Right did. But the post I was responding to referenced the number killed, not the number that might have been killed in some alternate universe.

    BTW, this puts a real crimp in the Confederacy apologist’s claim that the South was horrifically oppressed after our civil war. Exactly one southerner was executed for war crimes and/or in revenge after the war.

  330. Logan says:
    @MarkinLA

    Or, the Russians started the mess in Afghanistan by invading.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  331. MarkinLA says:
    @Logan

    First of all who gives a shit if the Russians annexed Afghanistan, let alone invaded to save a Marxist government? Secondly, I will take Brezinski at his word.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/1998/01/15/how-jimmy-carter-and-i-started-the-mujahideen/

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