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Brooklyn is a pretty good although strikingly sedate movie that might snag one of the many Best Picture Oscar nominations, but won’t win.

It’s a fairly realistic story of a pretty but not exceptionally beautiful Irish girl (Saoirse Ronan) in 1951 whose sister arranges for her to immigrate to Brooklyn, where a kind Irish priest (Jim Broadbent at his most avuncular) gets her a job in a fancy department store and a place to stay at a witty Irish lady’s boarding house. There, more Americanized Irish girls take her under their wing and teach her how to put on makeup and the like.

The Irish in Ireland are portrayed as being snippy toward each other, but the Irish in New York in this movie are always looking out for each other.

At a parish dance, she meets a handsome Italian-American boy with honorable intentions. But then she has to go back to Ireland for family business. With her year in Brooklyn, she’s more glamorous than before, and her best friend sets her up with the most eligible bachelor in Enniscorthy (Domnhall Gleeson [Ex Machina and the fascist general in the latest Star Wars], the son of the great Brendan Gleeson). His intentions are honorable too.

Which equally handsome lovelorn swain will she choose: the working class but ambitious American or the upper middle class but less ambitious Irishman? There’s a plot twist I didn’t tell you about, but, basically, Brooklyn is like a classy Masterpiece Theater version of the basic plot of tween sensations Twilight and Hunger Games: which cute boy will the heroine choose?

The heroine doesn’t beat up any bad guys. In fact, the only bad guy in the movie is a nasty lady in Enniscorthy who is a mean gossip. A surprisingly realistic aspect of Brooklyn is that it portrays the world as being quite nice to nice-looking middle-class 19 year old girls with good manners.

But that means Brooklyn is sorely lacking in light-saber duels.

The screenplay adaptation is by Nick Hornby, a popular novelist and memoirist: High Fidelity, About a Boy, Fever Pitch, books that in the 1990s helped open up the topic of music and sports fandom as a literary subject. (Hornby is the brother-in-law of thriller novelist Robert Harris: Ghostwriter, Fatherland, which was a saner working out of the rich Nazis-won-the-war alternate universe idea than Philip K. Dick’s Man in the High Castle.)

There’s not much market lately for novels for guys, especially for a novelist whose strong suit is relationships and feelings and probably doesn’t want to compete with his sister’s husband, a prodigious researcher, at writing genres that still appeal to male readers like spy stories and historical politics. So Hornby has recently been remaking himself into the the straight guy who writes novels and movies about female main characters: An Education with Carey Mulligan, Wild with Reese Witherspoon backpacking, and the pleasant novel Funny Girl about an English TV comedienne. Or at least that’s my guess about Hornby’s career strategy.

I like his recent stuff about heroines, but my wife is indifferent to it, so perhaps he hasn’t yet overcome his fundamental guyness.

 
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  1. There’s not much market lately for novels for guys, especially for a novelist whose strong suit is relationships and feelings and probably doesn’t want to compete with his brother-in-law, a prodigious researcher

    The following are public facts. The novel’s progression began with an extraordinary story so told the public assumed it to be true, then to a mundane story so told that it somehow wasn’t insipid, on then to a story that puzzled and dealt with pedestrians, inordinately, interminably, a single day rendered in discontinuities, disarray, a stylistic circus, disguising a scheme of elusive recurrences, crafted from public actualities the author had actually been hoarding—a landmark map of the novel bears Robinson Crusoe, becomes self-aware at Madam Bovary, and attains the afterlife at Ulysses. What Ezra Pound meant when he said that Ulysses was an ending and not a beginning was that the technological potential of realism had been achieved by that book. Between fiction and truth, Joyce had summoned a unifying principle, and was often caught talking about epiphanies.

    Nearly a century removed, we should say what now seems obvious, that which was driving the novel’s trend toward more acute realism all along; art for the sake of artists who held mass-appeal in contempt was an excuse for snobbism more than standards, and increasingly verged with each dose of realism on its own conceit, a simple fact of taste that makes the avant-garde pose passé: truth is more interesting than fiction—and happens to be massively appealing, like reality TV. Realism is not aesthetic because it’s artistic; realism can be aesthetic because reality is artistic; the art of realism is interesting reality rendered well, and aesthetic purity is pure truth. “Beauty is truth, truth beauty—that is all.” Whatever had beauty was interesting, somehow, and only interesting in the way it was somehow true.

    One reason the modernist writers harbor a special mystique is because their biographies can be amassed in unprecedented detail, whence we found out the artists were more interesting than their art, and commenced the ultra-modern preoccupation of interrogating art for biographical details. Since them it’s been the era of biography and memoir. Before I knew much, that much was in my gut, from reading William F. Buckley’s thrice-weekly column, and never not being moved when he wrote in memoriam; they once did not know how to write so well about real people. The wisdom of crowds is good sense, and the public has made the logical step after literary realism, where the least of the best memoirs of the year is dependably more memorable than the year’s best novel.

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  2. Good to see that someone has at last tackled Hollywood’s dire shortage of mechanical sentimentality about the Irish.

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    • Replies: @BubbaJoe
    That's a heavy chip you're been carrying around on your shoulder, and for quite some time.
    , @Hibernian
    There are a lot of us and we buy tickets.
    , @Cagey Beast
    As I was reading Steve's article I thought "here we go; we're going to get lots of snide and snotty comments from the internet WASPs about the Irish". Was I right? Yes. Literally the first reader's comment, literally the first one.

    May your town be blessed with Somalis.
    , @Father O'Hara
    Good God! Hollywood ain t Anglophile enough for you,laddie??? Almost threw a shoe at my telly during the Oscars,so many danged English accents! We're in America for Chrissakes!!!
    , @Anonymous
    Dearieme is a Brit, not an American WASP.
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  3. Who is the next David Foster Wallace? Infinite Jest is turning twenty next month, which means a new big buzz book, with ripple effects for his cliques books, probably will be coming along now or later. The problem is that the best writers do tend to be purists, and self-publishing in obscurity on amazon is a romantic idea to some of them, I know that to be true. And that is DFW’s fault most of all. Too purist for photo ops that told him to pose, and good lord did he catch a comet returning when he did. And now he just whispers in ours that bastard…..

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  4. Domnhall Gleeson is also in The Revenant- quite a run. He came to prominence in About Time, the best film of 2013 imo. Brendan Gleeson’s son.

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  5. I’ve been wanting to see “Brooklyn” but haven’t yet. In any case, it seems like a stealthy red pill film. Patrons may leave the theater thinking, hey, when Brooklyn was nice and safe, back in the 50s, the contrast of Irish and Italians was really plenty “vibrant” enough, to say nothing of “diverse.” Now why did we need all these other people again?

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    • Replies: @Rob McX
    You get that feeling watching a lot of films set in the past. The lack of diversity is a statement in itself. I remember noticing it in Eastwood's The Changeling when it came out around 2008. Set in the 1920s and 1930s, and no non-whites to be seen - and this in Los Angeles!
    , @Clifford Brown
    Nice little documentary about the staunchly Irish neighborhood of Inwood, Manhattan circa 1968 on the verge of a major demographic shift. It's rather interesting how there is a complete lack restraint in expressing definitely un-PC opinions.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnG6pLwOflQ

    I make it up to Gaelic Park in the Bronx once or twice a year, but 'tis a shadow of its former self.
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  6. How can we fix this though? There is a market for young men, but the publishing gatekeepers are too politically correct and female to do anything about it.

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    • Replies: @Keith Vaz
    Indeed there is a market for young men. However, the motives of most piblishers isn't just profit. Most of them have enough to live on, and anti Narrative books may be good short term but they'd be hounded and persecuted. Scots-Irish are a powerful enemy.
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  7. Speaking of Carey Mulligan, did you happen to see Far From the Madding Crowd that she was in and came out this past April? I enjoyed it immensely.

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    Yeah, Far From the Madding Crowd was excellent. The Swedish guy who played Gabriel was pretty good but Carey Mulligan was luminously beautiful. I have not seen an actress so completely own a role like that since Jennifer Ehle was Elizabeth Bennet in Pride and Prejudice. FFTMC is on Netflix.
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  8. Have to be honest, this film sounds so ordinary. Classic Hollywood tended to make these types of romance dramas all the time and they didn’t always get nominated for much of anything. Why exactly should this particular film get nominated at all for any of the top awards, except that this being 2016 and films such as these are rarer and rarer. The plot sounds like something one might see on the Hallmark station or something.

    Just not seeing what the fuss is all about. I mean, if it turns out that one of the guys pursuing her is a closeted gay or some other topic thats introduced as a sub-plot to make it more relevant to 2016 sensibilities, then it may indeed have a strong chance for winning a major award. Aside from that, this sounds like a standard film from 1940, 1950, or 1960. A nice chick flick, nothing less and nothing more.

    In the same vein, its like, why exactly did Marissa Tomei win best supporting actress award for My Cousin Vinny? She’s a pretty good actress and has done better performances than that. MCV was just an ordinary run of the mill film that made a little more money at the box office than expected, but so what? She shouldn’t have even been nominated and in most years she wouldn’t. Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman is the same type of thing. Ordinary performances somehow playing bigger on the screen than expected (or so we’ve been told) and go on to snag some important nominations.

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  9. High Fidelity has great lines.

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  10. Did you ever review “An Education”? It’s the only movie in the past forty years, at least, with a Jewish villain. Very good movie on other levels, seeing early 60′s Britain always a delight, as the movie about the Profumo affair was too. Though I guess that one was a long time ago.

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    I was going to say this, is very rare a movie with jewish villains, the last being 'Drive' I think.
    , @snorlax
    The Wolf of Wall Street?
    , @Dew
    Actually, there is a movie called the People I Know (2002) that has a Jewish villain: Elliot Sharansky (played by Richard Schiff) is a NYC politician who resorts to blackmail and murder in order to keep his power.

    Trailer:
    http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi4008680985
    , @Steve Sailer
    One of the Jewish bad guy's scams in "An Education" is real estate blockbusting: he sets up a real estate office in a neighborhood in London full of nice old ladies, then starts moving Jamaican rudeboys onto the block. The audience laughed at the racist old white ladies who didn't like being harassed by black youths, and run to his real estate office to sell out. But it's a pretty horrifying scene and Hornby deserves credit for his courage in including it in the movie.
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  11. Miles off topic, but Denmark have just followed Sweden

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35222015

    “Denmark has tightened its border controls with Germany, hours after Sweden imposed similar measures to deter migrants entering from Denmark…In a letter to the European Commission, Inger Stojberg, Denmark’s integration minister, said the controls would focus initially on the border with Germany but may be extended to all of Denmark’s borders. She said the measures taken by Sweden meant Denmark was “faced with a serious risk to public order and internal security because a very large number of illegal immigrants may be stranded in the Copenhagen area”.

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  12. Steve, I can’t post on your site because thread lengths are getting too long or some similar unresolved software bug that plagues your particular platform.

    You probably think it bonus ‘though.

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  13. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “The Irish in Ireland are portrayed as being snippy toward each other, but the Irish in New York in this movie are always looking out for each other.”

    That’s accurate then. It’s amazing how kind Irish-Americans are to the Irish-Irish, and how petty the latter are in return. It’d be interesting to see the conniption fit that would ensue if the J-1 Visa were to be cancelled.

    “a pretty but not exceptionally beautiful Irish girl (Saoirse Ronan)”

    Living in California has spoiled you.

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    “a pretty but not exceptionally beautiful Irish girl (Saoirse Ronan)”

    Living in California has spoiled you.

     

    I think films (and TV shows) tend to make actresses appear far more beautiful than they are in person. I think describing Ronan as "pretty but not exceptionally beautiful" is right on the mark. But, man, she can act!
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  14. OT, but about “noticing.” From Noah Smith of @noahpinion (https://twitter.com/Noahpinion):

    I’ve never seen as white-dominated a profession as economics. *All* the top people are white. Is it weird that I just noticed this?

    I don’t follow him, so he may be trolling. That said, I wonder if he’s done a “I’ve never seen as black-dominated a profession as the NBA.” Anyway, it turns into a typical academic argument that I believe is resolved by blaming written English as the limiting/constraining factor.

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    I’ve never seen as white-dominated a profession as economics. *All* the top people are white. Is it weird that I just noticed this?
     
    Thomas Sowell has contributed more to intellectual life than any other economist I can think of, but maybe those contributions don't constitute "economics" in your book? Who cares? A Conflict of Visions will be read a hundred years from now. Can you say that about anything else from the profession?

    Economics is also an extremely male field. Jennifer Roback Morse has said that at conferences, she was usually the only girl in the room. Yet her Love and Economics will be up on the shelves next to Sowell's.

    These two could see things that everyone else missed.
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  15. @dearieme
    Good to see that someone has at last tackled Hollywood's dire shortage of mechanical sentimentality about the Irish.

    That’s a heavy chip you’re been carrying around on your shoulder, and for quite some time.

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    No chip. Just ask my Irish grandpa.
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  16. @peterike
    I've been wanting to see "Brooklyn" but haven't yet. In any case, it seems like a stealthy red pill film. Patrons may leave the theater thinking, hey, when Brooklyn was nice and safe, back in the 50s, the contrast of Irish and Italians was really plenty "vibrant" enough, to say nothing of "diverse." Now why did we need all these other people again?

    You get that feeling watching a lot of films set in the past. The lack of diversity is a statement in itself. I remember noticing it in Eastwood’s The Changeling when it came out around 2008. Set in the 1920s and 1930s, and no non-whites to be seen – and this in Los Angeles!

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    • Replies: @Romanian
    Enjoy it while it lasts. I've noticed that British productions set in Medieval times have started to add Black actors even though it was obviously unlikely for an African to not just be in non-descript Medieval England, but also be one of the local peasants, with no one remarking on his extraordinary appearance, especially people brought up on Church iconography of black or ashen devils. I've seen it in Camelot, the Bastard Executioner, Boewulf returns to the Shieldlands. I'm guessing it adds to the UK as a nation of immigrants schtick they have been promoting. I'm also thinking that England is a bad place to be in if you're a Black actor, given their very healthy obsession with their past. Pretty soon, there will be Pakistani Union Generals, a Polynesian Sam Spade etc.
    , @Old Palo Altan
    The very recent Bridge of Spies was refreshingly the same.
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  17. @dearieme
    Good to see that someone has at last tackled Hollywood's dire shortage of mechanical sentimentality about the Irish.

    There are a lot of us and we buy tickets.

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  18. @nglaer
    Did you ever review "An Education"? It's the only movie in the past forty years, at least, with a Jewish villain. Very good movie on other levels, seeing early 60's Britain always a delight, as the movie about the Profumo affair was too. Though I guess that one was a long time ago.

    I was going to say this, is very rare a movie with jewish villains, the last being ‘Drive’ I think.

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    I was going to say this, is very rare a movie with jewish villains, the last being ‘Drive’ I think.
     
    And don't forget Oliver!
    , @Jefferson
    "I was going to say this, is very rare a movie with jewish villains, the last being ‘Drive’ I think."

    Moe Greene from The Godfather. And don't forget The Passion Of The Christ.
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  19. @Anonymous
    Speaking of Carey Mulligan, did you happen to see Far From the Madding Crowd that she was in and came out this past April? I enjoyed it immensely.

    Yeah, Far From the Madding Crowd was excellent. The Swedish guy who played Gabriel was pretty good but Carey Mulligan was luminously beautiful. I have not seen an actress so completely own a role like that since Jennifer Ehle was Elizabeth Bennet in Pride and Prejudice. FFTMC is on Netflix.

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    I thought the entire cast was really good, but Carey and the man who played Gabriel were my favorite, and it was a visually beautiful movie.
    , @cthulhu
    Carey Mulligan was also terrific in the Coen brothers' Inside Llewyn Davis; beautiful and funny and sang very, very well. One of the Coen's better efforts IMHO (and I say that as someone who has been a fan since Blood Simple was released); not Miller's Crossing or Barton Fink or The Big Lebowski, but quite good.
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  20. Keith Vaz [AKA "Sir Charles Pipkins"] says:
    @Anon
    How can we fix this though? There is a market for young men, but the publishing gatekeepers are too politically correct and female to do anything about it.

    Indeed there is a market for young men. However, the motives of most piblishers isn’t just profit. Most of them have enough to live on, and anti Narrative books may be good short term but they’d be hounded and persecuted. Scots-Irish are a powerful enemy.

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  21. Hollywood and Jim Broadbent’s own past roles have me so conditioned that I kept waiting for them to reveal that the kindly priest was actually a creeper/pervert, but no, he really was that decent, and I appreciated how they portrayed 1950s Irish Catholicism as a source of strength and community. That was quite unexpected.

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  22. There are a lot of us and we buy tickets.

    Yeah, but you still have to pick the right numbers!

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  23. @nglaer
    Did you ever review "An Education"? It's the only movie in the past forty years, at least, with a Jewish villain. Very good movie on other levels, seeing early 60's Britain always a delight, as the movie about the Profumo affair was too. Though I guess that one was a long time ago.

    The Wolf of Wall Street?

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    Yeah, with Leonardo DiCaprio as Jordan Belfort. It's like casting Robert Redford to play Fagin.
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  24. @Rob McX
    You get that feeling watching a lot of films set in the past. The lack of diversity is a statement in itself. I remember noticing it in Eastwood's The Changeling when it came out around 2008. Set in the 1920s and 1930s, and no non-whites to be seen - and this in Los Angeles!

    Enjoy it while it lasts. I’ve noticed that British productions set in Medieval times have started to add Black actors even though it was obviously unlikely for an African to not just be in non-descript Medieval England, but also be one of the local peasants, with no one remarking on his extraordinary appearance, especially people brought up on Church iconography of black or ashen devils. I’ve seen it in Camelot, the Bastard Executioner, Boewulf returns to the Shieldlands. I’m guessing it adds to the UK as a nation of immigrants schtick they have been promoting. I’m also thinking that England is a bad place to be in if you’re a Black actor, given their very healthy obsession with their past. Pretty soon, there will be Pakistani Union Generals, a Polynesian Sam Spade etc.

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    Enjoy it while it lasts. I’ve noticed that British productions set in Medieval times have started to add Black actors even though it was obviously unlikely for an African ........
     
    "Pillars of The Earth" 2010 was devoid of this nonsense. I highly recommend it. A preTrans Eddie Redmayne and Hayley Atwell at her finest. The peak of her career. http://www.amazon.com/Pillars-Earth-Ian-McShane/dp/B003UD7J94/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1451947164&sr=8-5&keywords=The+Pillars+of+the+Earth
    , @Dave Pinsen
    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/680176593575276544
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  25. @Romanian
    Enjoy it while it lasts. I've noticed that British productions set in Medieval times have started to add Black actors even though it was obviously unlikely for an African to not just be in non-descript Medieval England, but also be one of the local peasants, with no one remarking on his extraordinary appearance, especially people brought up on Church iconography of black or ashen devils. I've seen it in Camelot, the Bastard Executioner, Boewulf returns to the Shieldlands. I'm guessing it adds to the UK as a nation of immigrants schtick they have been promoting. I'm also thinking that England is a bad place to be in if you're a Black actor, given their very healthy obsession with their past. Pretty soon, there will be Pakistani Union Generals, a Polynesian Sam Spade etc.

    Enjoy it while it lasts. I’ve noticed that British productions set in Medieval times have started to add Black actors even though it was obviously unlikely for an African ……..

    “Pillars of The Earth” 2010 was devoid of this nonsense. I highly recommend it. A preTrans Eddie Redmayne and Hayley Atwell at her finest. The peak of her career. http://www.amazon.com/Pillars-Earth-Ian-McShane/dp/B003UD7J94/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1451947164&sr=8-5&keywords=The+Pillars+of+the+Earth

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    I enjoyed it, though I am put off by Redmayne for some reason. But Pillars... was made after a series of well researched books, and the author would have, presumably, taken care that the cast reflected expectations of the period. I especially enjoyed the subplot with the religious relic as a source of revenue. I also recommend the wonderful Medieval detective series Cadfael, with Derek Jacobi, for other lessons on life in the period.

    I've seen other movies that had these problems, but in reverse - a recent Turkish movie on the conquest of Constantinople seemed to me (though I might be wrong regarding my assumptions for the time period), to have a ridiculously European (and sexy) looking cast. I know they were a diverse lot, but hardly a swarthier face in sight. In Romanian historical epics, Turkish characters would be played by actors with a bit of make-up, not just period costumes, so I was left with that impression of the period.
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  26. @Romanian
    Enjoy it while it lasts. I've noticed that British productions set in Medieval times have started to add Black actors even though it was obviously unlikely for an African to not just be in non-descript Medieval England, but also be one of the local peasants, with no one remarking on his extraordinary appearance, especially people brought up on Church iconography of black or ashen devils. I've seen it in Camelot, the Bastard Executioner, Boewulf returns to the Shieldlands. I'm guessing it adds to the UK as a nation of immigrants schtick they have been promoting. I'm also thinking that England is a bad place to be in if you're a Black actor, given their very healthy obsession with their past. Pretty soon, there will be Pakistani Union Generals, a Polynesian Sam Spade etc.

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    • Replies: @Romanian
    Merlin too!
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  27. @nglaer
    Did you ever review "An Education"? It's the only movie in the past forty years, at least, with a Jewish villain. Very good movie on other levels, seeing early 60's Britain always a delight, as the movie about the Profumo affair was too. Though I guess that one was a long time ago.

    Actually, there is a movie called the People I Know (2002) that has a Jewish villain: Elliot Sharansky (played by Richard Schiff) is a NYC politician who resorts to blackmail and murder in order to keep his power.

    Trailer:

    http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi4008680985

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    People I Know (2002) is the closest depiction of NYC power politics ever seen in a movie, I think the movie was made by Liberal Jews angry with the rising Neocons represented by the villain Sharansky who even has israeli bodyguards.

    Other "anti-semitic" film made by jews is Barton Fink (1991).
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  28. @Rob McX
    You get that feeling watching a lot of films set in the past. The lack of diversity is a statement in itself. I remember noticing it in Eastwood's The Changeling when it came out around 2008. Set in the 1920s and 1930s, and no non-whites to be seen - and this in Los Angeles!

    The very recent Bridge of Spies was refreshingly the same.

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  29. @Dew
    Actually, there is a movie called the People I Know (2002) that has a Jewish villain: Elliot Sharansky (played by Richard Schiff) is a NYC politician who resorts to blackmail and murder in order to keep his power.

    Trailer:
    http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi4008680985

    People I Know (2002) is the closest depiction of NYC power politics ever seen in a movie, I think the movie was made by Liberal Jews angry with the rising Neocons represented by the villain Sharansky who even has israeli bodyguards.

    Other “anti-semitic” film made by jews is Barton Fink (1991).

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    The Broadway play Other People's Money told the story of a ruthless corporate raider named Larry ... Garfinkle.

    The Hollywood film Other People's Money told the story of a ruthless corporate raider named Larry ... Garfield.

    http://articles.latimes.com/1991-01-13/entertainment/ca-524_1_danny-devito/3

    The film version of "Other People's Money," which will be the director's 26th feature, is also notable for addressing, or rather sidestepping, another, more controversial, issue--the charges of anti-Semitism that greeted Sterner's play during its initial New York run. The playwright's protagonist, a Jewish corporate takeover artist, was named Larry Garfinkle, not Garfield. As played by the New York stage actor Kevin Conway in the Off-Broadway production, the portrayal of Garfinkle raised questions among some critics and audiences who found Conway's performance to be larger-than-life--uncomfortably so. Some reviewers called Conway's Garfinkle a Wall Street Jackie Mason--a performance more akin to stand-up comedy than straight theater, one that emphasized the character's ethnicity and loaded Sterner's play with potentially anti-Semitic "Merchant of Venice" overtones.

    Critic Mel Gussow wrote in his review of the play in the New York Times: "One might legitimately ask whether it is necessary for the author to have a character that reinforces an ethnic stereotype."

    While Conway disputed any charges of anti-Semitism in his performance with an interview with the New York Times, it nonetheless was a portrayal that surprised even the play's author, who had originally turned down the actor as not right for the role during an earlier regional theater run.

    "The character that I had in my head was not the character that Kevin had in his head," acknowledged Sterner, who added a cautionary postscript to the play's published text: "The character of Garfinkle can be played in many ways. The one way he should not be played is overly, coarsely, 'ethnic.' "

    "I wrote that note because I was afraid that what Kevin had originated other actors would try to copy," said Sterner in an interview with the New York Times. "I did not want the play to become controversial about what it is not about. It's not about Garfinkle's being Jewish, it's about his doing good or not."

    Although the film version of "Other People's Money" originally retained the name of Garfinkle for the protagonist--and indeed the cast and crew's scripts carried the printed word "Garfinkle" crossed out with "Garfield" penciled in--Jewison is quick to dismiss any suggestion of capitulation.

    "Who changed the name? I changed it," says the director, who had met with the Off-Broadway actor after the play first opened. "I said 'You have to be careful, man, not to overdo it.' It's not important that Larry Garfinkle is Jewish. Boone Pickens isn't Jewish. Jimmy Goldsmith is, as are nine out of the 12 top corporate raiders in America, but there are three others that aren't. What does it matter, anyway? This isn't about religion."

    Adds DeVito: "Garfinkle? Garfield? John Garfield is my favorite actor."

    When pressed for further explanation, DeVito shrugs, "I'm obviously not Jewish, but my wife (actress Rhea Perlman) is and so I guess my kids are Jewish. Look, we're not laying into any big ethnic thing here. You don't look at me and think Norwegian. I'm Italian. But to play this guy as a Jewish arbitrager, don't you think that would be like playing a gangster movie with only Italians? It's kind of an ethnic slur."
     
    , @Dew
    Another notable movie with a Jewish villain is Eyes Wide Shut (1999): The character Victor Ziegler (played by Sydney Pollack).

    A scene from the movie (spoilers):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n-ojOnrfYk
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  30. @Chiron
    I was going to say this, is very rare a movie with jewish villains, the last being 'Drive' I think.

    I was going to say this, is very rare a movie with jewish villains, the last being ‘Drive’ I think.

    And don’t forget Oliver!

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    Alpha Dog? Kidnapping and murder among depraved Jewish suburban California drug dealers. What a portrait of an ethnic subculture!
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  31. @Clyde

    Enjoy it while it lasts. I’ve noticed that British productions set in Medieval times have started to add Black actors even though it was obviously unlikely for an African ........
     
    "Pillars of The Earth" 2010 was devoid of this nonsense. I highly recommend it. A preTrans Eddie Redmayne and Hayley Atwell at her finest. The peak of her career. http://www.amazon.com/Pillars-Earth-Ian-McShane/dp/B003UD7J94/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1451947164&sr=8-5&keywords=The+Pillars+of+the+Earth

    I enjoyed it, though I am put off by Redmayne for some reason. But Pillars… was made after a series of well researched books, and the author would have, presumably, taken care that the cast reflected expectations of the period. I especially enjoyed the subplot with the religious relic as a source of revenue. I also recommend the wonderful Medieval detective series Cadfael, with Derek Jacobi, for other lessons on life in the period.

    I’ve seen other movies that had these problems, but in reverse – a recent Turkish movie on the conquest of Constantinople seemed to me (though I might be wrong regarding my assumptions for the time period), to have a ridiculously European (and sexy) looking cast. I know they were a diverse lot, but hardly a swarthier face in sight. In Romanian historical epics, Turkish characters would be played by actors with a bit of make-up, not just period costumes, so I was left with that impression of the period.

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    I enjoyed it, though I am put off by Redmayne for some reason.
     
    He gave off a slightly gay vibe in Pillars. But still a great mini-series I watched on DVD in one weekend. I am glad you saw it. The last five minutes of the movie was great with very inspirational music. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU9GdoKmFXk
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  32. @Dave Pinsen
    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/680176593575276544

    Merlin too!

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    "Merlin too!"

    Merlin has that Mulatta actress from the South American country of Guyana.
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  33. @dearieme
    Good to see that someone has at last tackled Hollywood's dire shortage of mechanical sentimentality about the Irish.

    As I was reading Steve’s article I thought “here we go; we’re going to get lots of snide and snotty comments from the internet WASPs about the Irish”. Was I right? Yes. Literally the first reader’s comment, literally the first one.

    May your town be blessed with Somalis.

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    May your town be blessed with Somalis
     
    The Somalis are more like the Scots, clan-obsessed.

    They're quite the poets, too, but unlike Celts, either can't or won't express it in English.

    If you're looking for The New Irish, try the Hmong. Crooks to cops in one generation!
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  34. @Shaq
    OT, but about "noticing." From Noah Smith of @noahpinion (https://twitter.com/Noahpinion):

    I've never seen as white-dominated a profession as economics. *All* the top people are white. Is it weird that I just noticed this?

    I don't follow him, so he may be trolling. That said, I wonder if he's done a "I've never seen as black-dominated a profession as the NBA." Anyway, it turns into a typical academic argument that I believe is resolved by blaming written English as the limiting/constraining factor.

    I’ve never seen as white-dominated a profession as economics. *All* the top people are white. Is it weird that I just noticed this?

    Thomas Sowell has contributed more to intellectual life than any other economist I can think of, but maybe those contributions don’t constitute “economics” in your book? Who cares? A Conflict of Visions will be read a hundred years from now. Can you say that about anything else from the profession?

    Economics is also an extremely male field. Jennifer Roback Morse has said that at conferences, she was usually the only girl in the room. Yet her Love and Economics will be up on the shelves next to Sowell’s.

    These two could see things that everyone else missed.

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  35. Looks like the very fair, blond/redheaded Domnhall Gleeson is unsurprisingly being typecast in evil Nazi-esque villain and man who loses girl to more exotic man roles.

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    "Looks like the very fair, blond/redheaded Domnhall Gleeson is unsurprisingly being typecast in evil Nazi-esque villain and man who loses girl to more exotic man roles."

    The late blond Paul Walker was never typecast as an evil Nazi. He was always typecast as an alpha male who got all of the girls.
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  36. Why is Kings County all of a sudden “cool”, after decades of obscurity? I’ve seen more Nets hats in the last year than in the 47 years before put together, many of those in New York– and I’m over a thousand miles away now.

    Is it the urban Vermont? Portland with accents?

    What’s happening to the classic accent anyway?

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    You really should get out more.

    The Nets moved from Jersey to Brooklyn and captured some of that Brooklyn cache. The team is terrible, but as with the Raiders, the "Black and Silver" color scheme (and Jay Z's minority ownership) appeals to urban ruffians and assorted poseurs.

    Bernie and Trump still have great NY Outer Borough accents.
    , @Steve Sailer
    All the money in the world has been pouring into Lower Manhattan since the stock market took off in 1982. It spills across the Brooklyn Bridge.
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  37. @Cagey Beast
    As I was reading Steve's article I thought "here we go; we're going to get lots of snide and snotty comments from the internet WASPs about the Irish". Was I right? Yes. Literally the first reader's comment, literally the first one.

    May your town be blessed with Somalis.

    May your town be blessed with Somalis

    The Somalis are more like the Scots, clan-obsessed.

    They’re quite the poets, too, but unlike Celts, either can’t or won’t express it in English.

    If you’re looking for The New Irish, try the Hmong. Crooks to cops in one generation!

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    Are there really Hmong cops in Minnesota? It's hard to imagine them being cops. Aren't they very dysfunctional and even shorter than the Vietnamese?

    I think I've only ever seen an Asian cop, a Chinese, in NYC. The NYPD is huge, bigger than many armies in the world, so I suppose it's bound to have some Asian cops.
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  38. @snorlax
    The Wolf of Wall Street?

    Yeah, with Leonardo DiCaprio as Jordan Belfort. It’s like casting Robert Redford to play Fagin.

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    Scorsese casts DiCaprio as his leading man, just like he used to cast De Niro in most of his movies. It's really hard to complain that the teaming up hasn't worked for them or for audiences. Paul Rudd or somebody like that would have been more ethnically accurate in WOWS, but, on the other hand, Scorsese delivered Peak DiCaprio, which is something.
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  39. @Jim Don Bob
    Yeah, Far From the Madding Crowd was excellent. The Swedish guy who played Gabriel was pretty good but Carey Mulligan was luminously beautiful. I have not seen an actress so completely own a role like that since Jennifer Ehle was Elizabeth Bennet in Pride and Prejudice. FFTMC is on Netflix.

    I thought the entire cast was really good, but Carey and the man who played Gabriel were my favorite, and it was a visually beautiful movie.

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  40. Publishing does not make much money, and depends on a very exploited (cheap) class of readers, who like advertising media buyers are all young (White) women in their twenties who are uber-pc, hate hate hate Beta White males, and because they are the gatekeepers even in Science Fiction genre publishing, move everything ever leftward.

    Science Fiction was pretty conservative and male when … Isaac Asimov was writing for young men. Once it became the last-gasp province of pink and green haired feminists, it became … wereseal sex in space. No I’m not kidding.

    People are looking at the wrong thing. There were Jews aplenty, owning and running things in Golden Age Hollywood and Science Fiction, from say the 1920s to 1950s. Female domination (because young White women will work for peanuts as assistants and readers in publishing before marrying some big shot whereas men won’t without a big payoff ala software development) meant a rapid and steady march ever leftward, but pointedly excluding men who are Alpha Ahole dominant from criticism.

    TL:DR: its the women not Jews.

    The solution is of course an aggregation website of the “best” of self-published male oriented books taking a small fee and avoiding the readers/assistants all young PC women problem.

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  41. @dearieme
    Good to see that someone has at last tackled Hollywood's dire shortage of mechanical sentimentality about the Irish.

    Good God! Hollywood ain t Anglophile enough for you,laddie??? Almost threw a shoe at my telly during the Oscars,so many danged English accents! We’re in America for Chrissakes!!!

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  42. @BubbaJoe
    That's a heavy chip you're been carrying around on your shoulder, and for quite some time.

    No chip. Just ask my Irish grandpa.

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    Ulster Prot?
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  43. Does a pleasant movie about a place signal a market top? Should the real estate advice be: buy New Jack City, sell Brooklyn. Given the Irish connection why wasn’t it Boston?

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  44. @Chiron
    People I Know (2002) is the closest depiction of NYC power politics ever seen in a movie, I think the movie was made by Liberal Jews angry with the rising Neocons represented by the villain Sharansky who even has israeli bodyguards.

    Other "anti-semitic" film made by jews is Barton Fink (1991).

    The Broadway play Other People’s Money told the story of a ruthless corporate raider named Larry … Garfinkle.

    The Hollywood film Other People’s Money told the story of a ruthless corporate raider named Larry … Garfield.

    http://articles.latimes.com/1991-01-13/entertainment/ca-524_1_danny-devito/3

    The film version of “Other People’s Money,” which will be the director’s 26th feature, is also notable for addressing, or rather sidestepping, another, more controversial, issue–the charges of anti-Semitism that greeted Sterner’s play during its initial New York run. The playwright’s protagonist, a Jewish corporate takeover artist, was named Larry Garfinkle, not Garfield. As played by the New York stage actor Kevin Conway in the Off-Broadway production, the portrayal of Garfinkle raised questions among some critics and audiences who found Conway’s performance to be larger-than-life–uncomfortably so. Some reviewers called Conway’s Garfinkle a Wall Street Jackie Mason–a performance more akin to stand-up comedy than straight theater, one that emphasized the character’s ethnicity and loaded Sterner’s play with potentially anti-Semitic “Merchant of Venice” overtones.

    Critic Mel Gussow wrote in his review of the play in the New York Times: “One might legitimately ask whether it is necessary for the author to have a character that reinforces an ethnic stereotype.”

    While Conway disputed any charges of anti-Semitism in his performance with an interview with the New York Times, it nonetheless was a portrayal that surprised even the play’s author, who had originally turned down the actor as not right for the role during an earlier regional theater run.

    “The character that I had in my head was not the character that Kevin had in his head,” acknowledged Sterner, who added a cautionary postscript to the play’s published text: “The character of Garfinkle can be played in many ways. The one way he should not be played is overly, coarsely, ‘ethnic.’ ”

    “I wrote that note because I was afraid that what Kevin had originated other actors would try to copy,” said Sterner in an interview with the New York Times. “I did not want the play to become controversial about what it is not about. It’s not about Garfinkle’s being Jewish, it’s about his doing good or not.”

    Although the film version of “Other People’s Money” originally retained the name of Garfinkle for the protagonist–and indeed the cast and crew’s scripts carried the printed word “Garfinkle” crossed out with “Garfield” penciled in–Jewison is quick to dismiss any suggestion of capitulation.

    “Who changed the name? I changed it,” says the director, who had met with the Off-Broadway actor after the play first opened. “I said ‘You have to be careful, man, not to overdo it.’ It’s not important that Larry Garfinkle is Jewish. Boone Pickens isn’t Jewish. Jimmy Goldsmith is, as are nine out of the 12 top corporate raiders in America, but there are three others that aren’t. What does it matter, anyway? This isn’t about religion.”

    Adds DeVito: “Garfinkle? Garfield? John Garfield is my favorite actor.”

    When pressed for further explanation, DeVito shrugs, “I’m obviously not Jewish, but my wife (actress Rhea Perlman) is and so I guess my kids are Jewish. Look, we’re not laying into any big ethnic thing here. You don’t look at me and think Norwegian. I’m Italian. But to play this guy as a Jewish arbitrager, don’t you think that would be like playing a gangster movie with only Italians? It’s kind of an ethnic slur.”

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    Five other films in which Jewish characters or characters one might assume are Jewish are depicted in a less than flattering way are: The Apprenticeship of Dudley Kravitz (early Richard Dreyfus film...great performance), The Heartbreak Kid (original 1972 version with Charles Grodin and Cybill Shepherd haven't seen the remake), Mo Better Blues by Spike Lee, Tropic Thunder (Tom Cruise's performance of an obviously Jewish venal movie executive is absolutely hilarious) and The Great Gatsby ( recent version).

    Drive, Other People's Money, An Education, and People I Know mentioned in this thread are all good films worth seeing, as are the above films. Barton Fink , which was also mentioned in this thread, is a film I just didn't get. Sorry it lost me at the beginning and I just couldn't get into it. Another film by the Cohen Brothers I have not seen, but read that it is not particularly flattering to Jews is A Serious Man.

    Compared to the negative portrayal of Goyish Whites, the negative portrayal of Jewish characters is not that common ....but it happens.
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  45. I believe that one reason why “Brooklyn” was nominated is that the Irish girl ultimately chooses the Italian guy over the Irish one. Therefore she is choosing to marry outside of her group which is something that Hollywood loves – at least when white gentile women do it.

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    the Irish girl ultimately chooses the Italian guy over the Irish one

     

    Yeah, thanks for spoiling it for me, Chico.
    , @Rapparee
    In this case, it's a form of out-marriage so widely practiced as to responsible for new ethnogenesis- "Irish-Italian" is practically a race of its own in the Northeastern US. I must personally know at least seven families with that mix just off the top of my head, and could probably remember plenty more, given time. I certainly have enough part-Italian cousins and in-laws to regard Italo-Americans as close brother-tribe to mine. The same goes for Polish-Americans.
    , @Rapparee
    In this case, it's a form of out-marriage so widely practiced as to responsible for new ethnogenesis- "Irish-Italian" is practically a race of its own in the Northeastern US. I must personally know at least seven families with that mix just off the top of my head, and could probably remember plenty more, given time. I certainly have enough part-Italian cousins and in-laws to regard Italo-Americans as close brother-tribe to mine. The same goes for Polish-Americans.
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  46. @Reg Cæsar

    I was going to say this, is very rare a movie with jewish villains, the last being ‘Drive’ I think.
     
    And don't forget Oliver!

    Alpha Dog? Kidnapping and murder among depraved Jewish suburban California drug dealers. What a portrait of an ethnic subculture!

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  47. @keypusher
    Yeah, with Leonardo DiCaprio as Jordan Belfort. It's like casting Robert Redford to play Fagin.

    Scorsese casts DiCaprio as his leading man, just like he used to cast De Niro in most of his movies. It’s really hard to complain that the teaming up hasn’t worked for them or for audiences. Paul Rudd or somebody like that would have been more ethnically accurate in WOWS, but, on the other hand, Scorsese delivered Peak DiCaprio, which is something.

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    @Reg Cæsar

    May your town be blessed with Somalis
     
    The Somalis are more like the Scots, clan-obsessed.

    They're quite the poets, too, but unlike Celts, either can't or won't express it in English.

    If you're looking for The New Irish, try the Hmong. Crooks to cops in one generation!

    Are there really Hmong cops in Minnesota? It’s hard to imagine them being cops. Aren’t they very dysfunctional and even shorter than the Vietnamese?

    I think I’ve only ever seen an Asian cop, a Chinese, in NYC. The NYPD is huge, bigger than many armies in the world, so I suppose it’s bound to have some Asian cops.

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    Are there really Hmong cops in Minnesota? It’s hard to imagine them being cops. Aren’t they very dysfunctional and even shorter than the Vietnamese?
     
    What does height have to do with dysfunction?

    It's true the Hmong have been quite a problem in CA, MN, and WI. Then again, they were rather useful and valiant allies of ours against the NVA and the Pathet Lao along the Ho Chi Minh trails in the CIA's Secret War.

    I think I’ve only ever seen an Asian cop, a Chinese, in NYC. The NYPD is huge, bigger than many armies in the world, so I suppose it’s bound to have some Asian cops.
     
    I've seen Asian-American cops in L.A., S.F., Seattle, Boston, NYC, Northern Virginia and Maryland, as well as among the federal law enforcement (and I even trained with a few). Being a police officer is not a desirable occupation among most Asian-Americans, but LEOs of Asian descent are not exactly rare.
    , @5371
    There was at least one Chinese cop in Australia - he was killed not long ago by a 15 year old Kurdish "refugee".
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  49. @peterike
    I've been wanting to see "Brooklyn" but haven't yet. In any case, it seems like a stealthy red pill film. Patrons may leave the theater thinking, hey, when Brooklyn was nice and safe, back in the 50s, the contrast of Irish and Italians was really plenty "vibrant" enough, to say nothing of "diverse." Now why did we need all these other people again?

    Nice little documentary about the staunchly Irish neighborhood of Inwood, Manhattan circa 1968 on the verge of a major demographic shift. It’s rather interesting how there is a complete lack restraint in expressing definitely un-PC opinions.

    I make it up to Gaelic Park in the Bronx once or twice a year, but ’tis a shadow of its former self.

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    Very interesting documentary. The Wikipedia page for Inwood says: At one time, Inwood had one of the city's highest crime rates. From 1993 to 2010, crime decreased by 83%.

    I'm guessing the time of the high crime rate would've been in the decades after 1968 - though I suppose it's possible it was high before then. So the parishioners that the young priest and law student spoke of were right about what would happen to their neighbourhood as its demographics changed.

    , @BubbaJoe
    Thanks for posting.
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  50. @Reg Cæsar
    Why is Kings County all of a sudden "cool", after decades of obscurity? I've seen more Nets hats in the last year than in the 47 years before put together, many of those in New York-- and I'm over a thousand miles away now.

    Is it the urban Vermont? Portland with accents?

    What's happening to the classic accent anyway?

    You really should get out more.

    The Nets moved from Jersey to Brooklyn and captured some of that Brooklyn cache. The team is terrible, but as with the Raiders, the “Black and Silver” color scheme (and Jay Z’s minority ownership) appeals to urban ruffians and assorted poseurs.

    Bernie and Trump still have great NY Outer Borough accents.

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    Whenever someone starts up about Irish Americans, I'm always reminded of P.J. O'Rourke on their most famous exemplars' matriarch, his ethnic kin:

    "His wife, Rose, was a frigid martinet, unashamed to suckle at the teat of filthy lucre, awash in pietism and Tartuffery, filled with the letter of Catholicism and empty of its spirit..."
    , @Reg Cæsar
    I've followed the Nets since their days in Teaneck. I "got out" to some games at Piscataway. Can you find those on a map?
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  51. @Reg Cæsar
    Why is Kings County all of a sudden "cool", after decades of obscurity? I've seen more Nets hats in the last year than in the 47 years before put together, many of those in New York-- and I'm over a thousand miles away now.

    Is it the urban Vermont? Portland with accents?

    What's happening to the classic accent anyway?

    All the money in the world has been pouring into Lower Manhattan since the stock market took off in 1982. It spills across the Brooklyn Bridge.

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  52. @Jim Don Bob
    Yeah, Far From the Madding Crowd was excellent. The Swedish guy who played Gabriel was pretty good but Carey Mulligan was luminously beautiful. I have not seen an actress so completely own a role like that since Jennifer Ehle was Elizabeth Bennet in Pride and Prejudice. FFTMC is on Netflix.

    Carey Mulligan was also terrific in the Coen brothers’ Inside Llewyn Davis; beautiful and funny and sang very, very well. One of the Coen’s better efforts IMHO (and I say that as someone who has been a fan since Blood Simple was released); not Miller’s Crossing or Barton Fink or The Big Lebowski, but quite good.

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  53. @Anonymous
    Are there really Hmong cops in Minnesota? It's hard to imagine them being cops. Aren't they very dysfunctional and even shorter than the Vietnamese?

    I think I've only ever seen an Asian cop, a Chinese, in NYC. The NYPD is huge, bigger than many armies in the world, so I suppose it's bound to have some Asian cops.

    Are there really Hmong cops in Minnesota? It’s hard to imagine them being cops. Aren’t they very dysfunctional and even shorter than the Vietnamese?

    What does height have to do with dysfunction?

    It’s true the Hmong have been quite a problem in CA, MN, and WI. Then again, they were rather useful and valiant allies of ours against the NVA and the Pathet Lao along the Ho Chi Minh trails in the CIA’s Secret War.

    I think I’ve only ever seen an Asian cop, a Chinese, in NYC. The NYPD is huge, bigger than many armies in the world, so I suppose it’s bound to have some Asian cops.

    I’ve seen Asian-American cops in L.A., S.F., Seattle, Boston, NYC, Northern Virginia and Maryland, as well as among the federal law enforcement (and I even trained with a few). Being a police officer is not a desirable occupation among most Asian-Americans, but LEOs of Asian descent are not exactly rare.

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    "I’ve seen Asian-American cops in L.A., S.F., Seattle, Boston, NYC, Northern Virginia and Maryland, as well as among the federal law enforcement (and I even trained with a few). Being a police officer is not a desirable occupation among most Asian-Americans, but LEOs of Asian descent are not exactly rare."

    Filipino Americans do not seem to thumb their noses at blue collar occupations like members of the military and police officers. I wonder if their Catholicism has anything to do with them being less snobbish on average than Chinese Americans.

    Also I notice that Filipino American women on average are more open than Chinese American women when it comes to dating and marrying men who do not have a bachelor's degree.
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  54. @Anonymous
    "The Irish in Ireland are portrayed as being snippy toward each other, but the Irish in New York in this movie are always looking out for each other."

    That's accurate then. It's amazing how kind Irish-Americans are to the Irish-Irish, and how petty the latter are in return. It'd be interesting to see the conniption fit that would ensue if the J-1 Visa were to be cancelled.

    "a pretty but not exceptionally beautiful Irish girl (Saoirse Ronan)"

    Living in California has spoiled you.

    “a pretty but not exceptionally beautiful Irish girl (Saoirse Ronan)”

    Living in California has spoiled you.

    I think films (and TV shows) tend to make actresses appear far more beautiful than they are in person. I think describing Ronan as “pretty but not exceptionally beautiful” is right on the mark. But, man, she can act!

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  55. @nglaer
    Did you ever review "An Education"? It's the only movie in the past forty years, at least, with a Jewish villain. Very good movie on other levels, seeing early 60's Britain always a delight, as the movie about the Profumo affair was too. Though I guess that one was a long time ago.

    One of the Jewish bad guy’s scams in “An Education” is real estate blockbusting: he sets up a real estate office in a neighborhood in London full of nice old ladies, then starts moving Jamaican rudeboys onto the block. The audience laughed at the racist old white ladies who didn’t like being harassed by black youths, and run to his real estate office to sell out. But it’s a pretty horrifying scene and Hornby deserves credit for his courage in including it in the movie.

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    Of course the Jewish bad guy in "An Education" is played by Peter Sarsgaard.

    Maybe Viggo Mortensen will get the lead in a Michael Milken biopic.
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  56. @Steve Sailer
    One of the Jewish bad guy's scams in "An Education" is real estate blockbusting: he sets up a real estate office in a neighborhood in London full of nice old ladies, then starts moving Jamaican rudeboys onto the block. The audience laughed at the racist old white ladies who didn't like being harassed by black youths, and run to his real estate office to sell out. But it's a pretty horrifying scene and Hornby deserves credit for his courage in including it in the movie.

    Of course the Jewish bad guy in “An Education” is played by Peter Sarsgaard.

    Maybe Viggo Mortensen will get the lead in a Michael Milken biopic.

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    Of course the Jewish bad guy in “An Education” is played by Peter Sarsgaard.

    Maybe Viggo Mortensen will get the lead in a Michael Milken biopic.
     
    Here's the casting for upcoming Bernie Madoff biopics:

    THE WIZARD OF LIES: Robert de Niro as Madoff, Michelle Pfeiffer as Ruth Madoff:

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1933667/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_3


    MADOFF: Richard Dreyfus as Madoff, Blythe Danner as Ruth.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4035574/
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  57. @Chiron
    People I Know (2002) is the closest depiction of NYC power politics ever seen in a movie, I think the movie was made by Liberal Jews angry with the rising Neocons represented by the villain Sharansky who even has israeli bodyguards.

    Other "anti-semitic" film made by jews is Barton Fink (1991).

    Another notable movie with a Jewish villain is Eyes Wide Shut (1999): The character Victor Ziegler (played by Sydney Pollack).

    A scene from the movie (spoilers):

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    EYES WIDE SHUT was based on DREAM STORY* (TRAUMNOVELLE). In the book, Cruise and Kidman's characters were Jewish. And the weird sex-cult was apparently based on the Frankists**, although Kubrick's film made them look quasi-Roman Catholic.


    *https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_Story


    **https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankism


    Frankism, a Jewish religious movement of the 18th and 19th centuries,[1] centered on the leadership of the Jewish Messiah claimant Jacob Frank, who lived from 1726 to 1791. At its height it claimed perhaps 50,000 followers, primarily Jews living in Poland and other parts of Eastern Europe.[1][2][3] Unlike traditional Judaism, which provides a set of detailed guidelines called halakha that are scrupulously followed by observant Jews and regulate many aspects of life,[4] Frank claimed that "all laws and teachings will fall"[5] and following antinomianism asserted that one's most important personal obligation of every person was the transgression of every boundary.
     
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  58. @Steve Sailer
    Of course the Jewish bad guy in "An Education" is played by Peter Sarsgaard.

    Maybe Viggo Mortensen will get the lead in a Michael Milken biopic.

    Of course the Jewish bad guy in “An Education” is played by Peter Sarsgaard.

    Maybe Viggo Mortensen will get the lead in a Michael Milken biopic.

    Here’s the casting for upcoming Bernie Madoff biopics:

    THE WIZARD OF LIES: Robert de Niro as Madoff, Michelle Pfeiffer as Ruth Madoff:

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1933667/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_3

    MADOFF: Richard Dreyfus as Madoff, Blythe Danner as Ruth.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4035574/

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    Viggo Mortensen recently played Sigmund Freud.

    That's another case of director-actor linkage. Cronenberg casts Viggo a lot, and he wanted to make a Freud-Jung movie, so Fassbender is Jung so that leaves Mortensen to be Freud.

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  59. @Clifford Brown
    Nice little documentary about the staunchly Irish neighborhood of Inwood, Manhattan circa 1968 on the verge of a major demographic shift. It's rather interesting how there is a complete lack restraint in expressing definitely un-PC opinions.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnG6pLwOflQ

    I make it up to Gaelic Park in the Bronx once or twice a year, but 'tis a shadow of its former self.

    Very interesting documentary. The Wikipedia page for Inwood says: At one time, Inwood had one of the city’s highest crime rates. From 1993 to 2010, crime decreased by 83%.

    I’m guessing the time of the high crime rate would’ve been in the decades after 1968 – though I suppose it’s possible it was high before then. So the parishioners that the young priest and law student spoke of were right about what would happen to their neighbourhood as its demographics changed.

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  60. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Stan Adams
    The Broadway play Other People's Money told the story of a ruthless corporate raider named Larry ... Garfinkle.

    The Hollywood film Other People's Money told the story of a ruthless corporate raider named Larry ... Garfield.

    http://articles.latimes.com/1991-01-13/entertainment/ca-524_1_danny-devito/3

    The film version of "Other People's Money," which will be the director's 26th feature, is also notable for addressing, or rather sidestepping, another, more controversial, issue--the charges of anti-Semitism that greeted Sterner's play during its initial New York run. The playwright's protagonist, a Jewish corporate takeover artist, was named Larry Garfinkle, not Garfield. As played by the New York stage actor Kevin Conway in the Off-Broadway production, the portrayal of Garfinkle raised questions among some critics and audiences who found Conway's performance to be larger-than-life--uncomfortably so. Some reviewers called Conway's Garfinkle a Wall Street Jackie Mason--a performance more akin to stand-up comedy than straight theater, one that emphasized the character's ethnicity and loaded Sterner's play with potentially anti-Semitic "Merchant of Venice" overtones.

    Critic Mel Gussow wrote in his review of the play in the New York Times: "One might legitimately ask whether it is necessary for the author to have a character that reinforces an ethnic stereotype."

    While Conway disputed any charges of anti-Semitism in his performance with an interview with the New York Times, it nonetheless was a portrayal that surprised even the play's author, who had originally turned down the actor as not right for the role during an earlier regional theater run.

    "The character that I had in my head was not the character that Kevin had in his head," acknowledged Sterner, who added a cautionary postscript to the play's published text: "The character of Garfinkle can be played in many ways. The one way he should not be played is overly, coarsely, 'ethnic.' "

    "I wrote that note because I was afraid that what Kevin had originated other actors would try to copy," said Sterner in an interview with the New York Times. "I did not want the play to become controversial about what it is not about. It's not about Garfinkle's being Jewish, it's about his doing good or not."

    Although the film version of "Other People's Money" originally retained the name of Garfinkle for the protagonist--and indeed the cast and crew's scripts carried the printed word "Garfinkle" crossed out with "Garfield" penciled in--Jewison is quick to dismiss any suggestion of capitulation.

    "Who changed the name? I changed it," says the director, who had met with the Off-Broadway actor after the play first opened. "I said 'You have to be careful, man, not to overdo it.' It's not important that Larry Garfinkle is Jewish. Boone Pickens isn't Jewish. Jimmy Goldsmith is, as are nine out of the 12 top corporate raiders in America, but there are three others that aren't. What does it matter, anyway? This isn't about religion."

    Adds DeVito: "Garfinkle? Garfield? John Garfield is my favorite actor."

    When pressed for further explanation, DeVito shrugs, "I'm obviously not Jewish, but my wife (actress Rhea Perlman) is and so I guess my kids are Jewish. Look, we're not laying into any big ethnic thing here. You don't look at me and think Norwegian. I'm Italian. But to play this guy as a Jewish arbitrager, don't you think that would be like playing a gangster movie with only Italians? It's kind of an ethnic slur."
     

    Five other films in which Jewish characters or characters one might assume are Jewish are depicted in a less than flattering way are: The Apprenticeship of Dudley Kravitz (early Richard Dreyfus film…great performance), The Heartbreak Kid (original 1972 version with Charles Grodin and Cybill Shepherd haven’t seen the remake), Mo Better Blues by Spike Lee, Tropic Thunder (Tom Cruise’s performance of an obviously Jewish venal movie executive is absolutely hilarious) and The Great Gatsby ( recent version).

    Drive, Other People’s Money, An Education, and People I Know mentioned in this thread are all good films worth seeing, as are the above films. Barton Fink , which was also mentioned in this thread, is a film I just didn’t get. Sorry it lost me at the beginning and I just couldn’t get into it. Another film by the Cohen Brothers I have not seen, but read that it is not particularly flattering to Jews is A Serious Man.

    Compared to the negative portrayal of Goyish Whites, the negative portrayal of Jewish characters is not that common ….but it happens.

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    One of the main villains of the Coens' Miller's Crossing, Bernie Bernbaum (played beautifully by John Turturro), is Jewish; not too surprising given the time period and the source material (Dashiell Hammett, who was writing honestly about organized crime and therefore included Jewish elements). And Turturro plays the Jewish main character in Barton Fink (which I fully admit is not for everyone but I personally consider it one of their top five, and Judy Davis gives one of her best performances).

    Of course, Turturro also played the hilariously sleazy, totally non-Jewish bowler Jesus in the Coens' comic magnum opus, The Big Lebowski, probably the funniest homage to Raymond Chandler ever committed to film. Which also includes the non-Jewish Walter Sobchak, who won't roll on Shabbos. The Coens are nothing if not multilayered.
    , @Stan Adams
    Don't forget The Social Network.

    In 1986, James Cameron got away with casting Paul Reiser as a sociopathic, money-grubbing corporate executive ... nowadays, most directors would cast a blonde-haired, blue-eyed Nordic type as The Evil Corporate Prick.
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  61. @syonredux

    Of course the Jewish bad guy in “An Education” is played by Peter Sarsgaard.

    Maybe Viggo Mortensen will get the lead in a Michael Milken biopic.
     
    Here's the casting for upcoming Bernie Madoff biopics:

    THE WIZARD OF LIES: Robert de Niro as Madoff, Michelle Pfeiffer as Ruth Madoff:

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1933667/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_3


    MADOFF: Richard Dreyfus as Madoff, Blythe Danner as Ruth.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4035574/

    Viggo Mortensen recently played Sigmund Freud.

    That’s another case of director-actor linkage. Cronenberg casts Viggo a lot, and he wanted to make a Freud-Jung movie, so Fassbender is Jung so that leaves Mortensen to be Freud.

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  62. @Dew
    Another notable movie with a Jewish villain is Eyes Wide Shut (1999): The character Victor Ziegler (played by Sydney Pollack).

    A scene from the movie (spoilers):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n-ojOnrfYk

    EYES WIDE SHUT was based on DREAM STORY* (TRAUMNOVELLE). In the book, Cruise and Kidman’s characters were Jewish. And the weird sex-cult was apparently based on the Frankists**, although Kubrick’s film made them look quasi-Roman Catholic.

    *https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_Story

    **https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankism

    Frankism, a Jewish religious movement of the 18th and 19th centuries,[1] centered on the leadership of the Jewish Messiah claimant Jacob Frank, who lived from 1726 to 1791. At its height it claimed perhaps 50,000 followers, primarily Jews living in Poland and other parts of Eastern Europe.[1][2][3] Unlike traditional Judaism, which provides a set of detailed guidelines called halakha that are scrupulously followed by observant Jews and regulate many aspects of life,[4] Frank claimed that “all laws and teachings will fall”[5] and following antinomianism asserted that one’s most important personal obligation of every person was the transgression of every boundary.

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    What's the relationship between Frankism and the cult of the previous pseudo-Messiah Sabbatai Zevi?
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  63. @syonredux
    EYES WIDE SHUT was based on DREAM STORY* (TRAUMNOVELLE). In the book, Cruise and Kidman's characters were Jewish. And the weird sex-cult was apparently based on the Frankists**, although Kubrick's film made them look quasi-Roman Catholic.


    *https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_Story


    **https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankism


    Frankism, a Jewish religious movement of the 18th and 19th centuries,[1] centered on the leadership of the Jewish Messiah claimant Jacob Frank, who lived from 1726 to 1791. At its height it claimed perhaps 50,000 followers, primarily Jews living in Poland and other parts of Eastern Europe.[1][2][3] Unlike traditional Judaism, which provides a set of detailed guidelines called halakha that are scrupulously followed by observant Jews and regulate many aspects of life,[4] Frank claimed that "all laws and teachings will fall"[5] and following antinomianism asserted that one's most important personal obligation of every person was the transgression of every boundary.
     

    What’s the relationship between Frankism and the cult of the previous pseudo-Messiah Sabbatai Zevi?

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    What’s the relationship between Frankism and the cult of the previous pseudo-Messiah Sabbatai Zevi?
     
    According to WIKIPEDIA (usual caveats), it's an offshoot. Jacob Frank's family was Sabbatean*, and he claimed that he was Zevi's successor. He also had contacts with your old friends, the Donmeh:

    Jacob Frank is believed to have been born as Jakub Lejbowicz[2] to a Polish-Jewish family in Korołówka, in Podolia of Eastern Poland (now in Ukraine), in about 1726. His father was a Sabbatean, and moved to Czernowitz, in the Carpathian region of Bukovina in 1730, where the Sabbatean influence at the time was strong. While still a schoolboy Frank began to reject the Talmud, and afterward often referred to himself as "a plain" or "untutored man."

    As a traveling merchant in textile and precious stones he often visited Ottoman territories, where he earned the nickname "Frank", a name generally given in the East to Europeans, and lived in the centers of contemporary Sabbateanism: Salonica and Smyrna.

    In the early 1750s, Frank became intimate with the leaders of the Sabbateans. Two followers of Sabbatian leader Osman Baba (d. 1720) were witnesses at his wedding in 1752. In 1755 he reappeared in Podolia, gathered a group of local adherents, and began to preach the "revelations" which were communicated to him by the Dönmeh in Salonica. One of these gatherings in Landskron ended in a scandal, and the rabbis' attention was drawn to the new teachings. Frank was forced to leave Podolia, while his followers were hounded and denounced to the local authorities by the rabbis (1756). At the rabbinical court held in the village of Satanov the Sabbateans were accused of having broken fundamental Jewish laws of morality and modesty.

     


    At this critical moment Jacob Frank came to Iwania, proclaimed himself as a direct successor to Sabbatai Zevi and Osman Baba, and assured his adherents that he had received revelations from Heaven. These revelations called for the conversion of Frank and his followers to the Christian religion, which was to be a visible transition stage to the future "das" or religion to be revealed by Frank
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Frank



    *https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbateans

    Sabbateans (Sabbatians) is a complex general term that refers to a variety of followers of, disciples and believers in Sabbatai Zevi (1626–1676), a Jewish rabbi who was proclaimed to be the Jewish Messiah in 1665 by Nathan of Gaza. Vast numbers of Jews in the Jewish diaspora accepted his claims, even after he became a Jewish apostate with his conversion to Islam in 1666. Sabbatai Zevi's followers, both during his "Messiahship" and after his conversion to Islam, are known as Sabbateans. They can be grouped into three: "Maaminim" (believers), "Haberim" (associates), and "Ba'ale Milhamah" (warriors).
     
    , @Clifford Brown
    You know better than to pursue this path of inquiry.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjSshSvQWQA
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  64. @Steve Sailer
    What's the relationship between Frankism and the cult of the previous pseudo-Messiah Sabbatai Zevi?

    What’s the relationship between Frankism and the cult of the previous pseudo-Messiah Sabbatai Zevi?

    According to WIKIPEDIA (usual caveats), it’s an offshoot. Jacob Frank’s family was Sabbatean*, and he claimed that he was Zevi’s successor. He also had contacts with your old friends, the Donmeh:

    Jacob Frank is believed to have been born as Jakub Lejbowicz[2] to a Polish-Jewish family in Korołówka, in Podolia of Eastern Poland (now in Ukraine), in about 1726. His father was a Sabbatean, and moved to Czernowitz, in the Carpathian region of Bukovina in 1730, where the Sabbatean influence at the time was strong. While still a schoolboy Frank began to reject the Talmud, and afterward often referred to himself as “a plain” or “untutored man.”

    As a traveling merchant in textile and precious stones he often visited Ottoman territories, where he earned the nickname “Frank”, a name generally given in the East to Europeans, and lived in the centers of contemporary Sabbateanism: Salonica and Smyrna.

    In the early 1750s, Frank became intimate with the leaders of the Sabbateans. Two followers of Sabbatian leader Osman Baba (d. 1720) were witnesses at his wedding in 1752. In 1755 he reappeared in Podolia, gathered a group of local adherents, and began to preach the “revelations” which were communicated to him by the Dönmeh in Salonica. One of these gatherings in Landskron ended in a scandal, and the rabbis’ attention was drawn to the new teachings. Frank was forced to leave Podolia, while his followers were hounded and denounced to the local authorities by the rabbis (1756). At the rabbinical court held in the village of Satanov the Sabbateans were accused of having broken fundamental Jewish laws of morality and modesty.

    At this critical moment Jacob Frank came to Iwania, proclaimed himself as a direct successor to Sabbatai Zevi and Osman Baba, and assured his adherents that he had received revelations from Heaven. These revelations called for the conversion of Frank and his followers to the Christian religion, which was to be a visible transition stage to the future “das” or religion to be revealed by Frank

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Frank

    *https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbateans

    Sabbateans (Sabbatians) is a complex general term that refers to a variety of followers of, disciples and believers in Sabbatai Zevi (1626–1676), a Jewish rabbi who was proclaimed to be the Jewish Messiah in 1665 by Nathan of Gaza. Vast numbers of Jews in the Jewish diaspora accepted his claims, even after he became a Jewish apostate with his conversion to Islam in 1666. Sabbatai Zevi’s followers, both during his “Messiahship” and after his conversion to Islam, are known as Sabbateans. They can be grouped into three: “Maaminim” (believers), “Haberim” (associates), and “Ba’ale Milhamah” (warriors).

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  65. @Anonymous
    Five other films in which Jewish characters or characters one might assume are Jewish are depicted in a less than flattering way are: The Apprenticeship of Dudley Kravitz (early Richard Dreyfus film...great performance), The Heartbreak Kid (original 1972 version with Charles Grodin and Cybill Shepherd haven't seen the remake), Mo Better Blues by Spike Lee, Tropic Thunder (Tom Cruise's performance of an obviously Jewish venal movie executive is absolutely hilarious) and The Great Gatsby ( recent version).

    Drive, Other People's Money, An Education, and People I Know mentioned in this thread are all good films worth seeing, as are the above films. Barton Fink , which was also mentioned in this thread, is a film I just didn't get. Sorry it lost me at the beginning and I just couldn't get into it. Another film by the Cohen Brothers I have not seen, but read that it is not particularly flattering to Jews is A Serious Man.

    Compared to the negative portrayal of Goyish Whites, the negative portrayal of Jewish characters is not that common ....but it happens.

    One of the main villains of the Coens’ Miller’s Crossing, Bernie Bernbaum (played beautifully by John Turturro), is Jewish; not too surprising given the time period and the source material (Dashiell Hammett, who was writing honestly about organized crime and therefore included Jewish elements). And Turturro plays the Jewish main character in Barton Fink (which I fully admit is not for everyone but I personally consider it one of their top five, and Judy Davis gives one of her best performances).

    Of course, Turturro also played the hilariously sleazy, totally non-Jewish bowler Jesus in the Coens’ comic magnum opus, The Big Lebowski, probably the funniest homage to Raymond Chandler ever committed to film. Which also includes the non-Jewish Walter Sobchak, who won’t roll on Shabbos. The Coens are nothing if not multilayered.

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  66. @Joe Walker
    I believe that one reason why "Brooklyn" was nominated is that the Irish girl ultimately chooses the Italian guy over the Irish one. Therefore she is choosing to marry outside of her group which is something that Hollywood loves - at least when white gentile women do it.

    the Irish girl ultimately chooses the Italian guy over the Irish one

    Yeah, thanks for spoiling it for me, Chico.

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    Maybe there are multiple endings?
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  67. @dearieme
    Good to see that someone has at last tackled Hollywood's dire shortage of mechanical sentimentality about the Irish.

    Dearieme is a Brit, not an American WASP.

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  68. @dearieme
    No chip. Just ask my Irish grandpa.

    Ulster Prot?

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  69. @Anonymous
    Five other films in which Jewish characters or characters one might assume are Jewish are depicted in a less than flattering way are: The Apprenticeship of Dudley Kravitz (early Richard Dreyfus film...great performance), The Heartbreak Kid (original 1972 version with Charles Grodin and Cybill Shepherd haven't seen the remake), Mo Better Blues by Spike Lee, Tropic Thunder (Tom Cruise's performance of an obviously Jewish venal movie executive is absolutely hilarious) and The Great Gatsby ( recent version).

    Drive, Other People's Money, An Education, and People I Know mentioned in this thread are all good films worth seeing, as are the above films. Barton Fink , which was also mentioned in this thread, is a film I just didn't get. Sorry it lost me at the beginning and I just couldn't get into it. Another film by the Cohen Brothers I have not seen, but read that it is not particularly flattering to Jews is A Serious Man.

    Compared to the negative portrayal of Goyish Whites, the negative portrayal of Jewish characters is not that common ....but it happens.

    Don’t forget The Social Network.

    In 1986, James Cameron got away with casting Paul Reiser as a sociopathic, money-grubbing corporate executive … nowadays, most directors would cast a blonde-haired, blue-eyed Nordic type as The Evil Corporate Prick.

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    "In 1986, James Cameron got away with casting Paul Reiser as a sociopathic, money-grubbing corporate executive … nowadays, most directors would cast a blonde-haired, blue-eyed Nordic type as The Evil Corporate Prick."

    There were no blond evil corporate pricks in The Big Short. Infact Ryan Gosling's hair in the film was darker and curlier than it usually is in real life which is blonder and straighter. This is the least Aryan looking Ryan Gosling I have ever seen.
    , @syonredux

    In 1986, James Cameron got away with casting Paul Reiser as a sociopathic, money-grubbing corporate executive … nowadays, most directors would cast a blonde-haired, blue-eyed Nordic type as The Evil Corporate Prick.
     
    On the other hand, Reiser's character in ALIENS was named Carter Burke....which registers pretty much zero on the Jewishness scale.


    Perhaps the rule of thumb is:

    If the bad/unpleasant guy has a Jewish name, he should be played by a non-Jewish actor.

    If the bad/unpleasant guy is played by a Jewish actor, he should have a non-Jewish name.
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  70. Looking forward to Steve’s review of The Danish Girl.

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  71. @peterike

    the Irish girl ultimately chooses the Italian guy over the Irish one

     

    Yeah, thanks for spoiling it for me, Chico.

    Maybe there are multiple endings?

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  72. @Clifford Brown
    Nice little documentary about the staunchly Irish neighborhood of Inwood, Manhattan circa 1968 on the verge of a major demographic shift. It's rather interesting how there is a complete lack restraint in expressing definitely un-PC opinions.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnG6pLwOflQ

    I make it up to Gaelic Park in the Bronx once or twice a year, but 'tis a shadow of its former self.

    Thanks for posting.

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  74. One helluva singer

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  75. @Steve Sailer
    What's the relationship between Frankism and the cult of the previous pseudo-Messiah Sabbatai Zevi?

    You know better than to pursue this path of inquiry.

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  76. Here’s a movie to watch for – Beyonce is organizing a movie about Saartjie Baartman:

    SHE’S the most nominated woman in Grammy history and an undisputed music legend.

    But BEYONCE has set her sights on an even bigger prize and is now penning her own film in a bid to bag an Oscar.

    The superstar has hired a team of acting coaches and writers to put together a movie about Saartjie Baartman — who was exhibited in London freak shows during the 1800s, owing to her very large derrière.

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  77. @Anonymous
    Are there really Hmong cops in Minnesota? It's hard to imagine them being cops. Aren't they very dysfunctional and even shorter than the Vietnamese?

    I think I've only ever seen an Asian cop, a Chinese, in NYC. The NYPD is huge, bigger than many armies in the world, so I suppose it's bound to have some Asian cops.

    There was at least one Chinese cop in Australia – he was killed not long ago by a 15 year old Kurdish “refugee”.

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  78. @Twinkie

    Are there really Hmong cops in Minnesota? It’s hard to imagine them being cops. Aren’t they very dysfunctional and even shorter than the Vietnamese?
     
    What does height have to do with dysfunction?

    It's true the Hmong have been quite a problem in CA, MN, and WI. Then again, they were rather useful and valiant allies of ours against the NVA and the Pathet Lao along the Ho Chi Minh trails in the CIA's Secret War.

    I think I’ve only ever seen an Asian cop, a Chinese, in NYC. The NYPD is huge, bigger than many armies in the world, so I suppose it’s bound to have some Asian cops.
     
    I've seen Asian-American cops in L.A., S.F., Seattle, Boston, NYC, Northern Virginia and Maryland, as well as among the federal law enforcement (and I even trained with a few). Being a police officer is not a desirable occupation among most Asian-Americans, but LEOs of Asian descent are not exactly rare.

    “I’ve seen Asian-American cops in L.A., S.F., Seattle, Boston, NYC, Northern Virginia and Maryland, as well as among the federal law enforcement (and I even trained with a few). Being a police officer is not a desirable occupation among most Asian-Americans, but LEOs of Asian descent are not exactly rare.”

    Filipino Americans do not seem to thumb their noses at blue collar occupations like members of the military and police officers. I wonder if their Catholicism has anything to do with them being less snobbish on average than Chinese Americans.

    Also I notice that Filipino American women on average are more open than Chinese American women when it comes to dating and marrying men who do not have a bachelor’s degree.

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    Filipino Americans do not seem to thumb their noses at blue collar occupations like members of the military and police officers. I wonder if their Catholicism has anything to do with them being less snobbish on average than Chinese Americans.
     
    That may have to do with the fact that ethnically non-Chinese Filipinos are less educated than East Asians. It may also have something to do with some combination of genetics and culture - Filipinos in America have the most positive views about race relations among all Asian groups here (the opposite end of the spectrum is Korean-Americans, who have the most dim view of race relations, probably because of their conflicts with blacks). They are much more "happy go lucky" than East Asians.

    Filipinos and Vietnamese are well-represented in the enlisted and NCO ranks of the military (Filipinos in the Navy in particular) while Koreans are well-presented in the army officer corps (in many graduating classes, Kim is the most prevalent surname at West Point). Chinese and Indians are largely absent from both. They are most likely to be economic migrants, and are not nearly as assimilated in civic and social spheres as Filipinos, Vietnamese, and Koreans are. In other words, they are here to make money, not to bleed for America.

    Also I notice that Filipino American women on average are more open than Chinese American women when it comes to dating and marrying men who do not have a bachelor’s degree.
     
    Again, assortative mating.
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  79. @Chiron
    I was going to say this, is very rare a movie with jewish villains, the last being 'Drive' I think.

    “I was going to say this, is very rare a movie with jewish villains, the last being ‘Drive’ I think.”

    Moe Greene from The Godfather. And don’t forget The Passion Of The Christ.

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    Mel Gibson took a lot of heat for The Passion of the Christ .

    Anyways, here's another movie with Jewish villain, East West (2000) : the political commissar. They don't outright say it, but he sure looks like it. Regardless, its a good movie that shows how destructive Bolshevism can be.

    Trailer (look at the guy tearing that book at 0:16, think it's him):
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    , @syonredux

    “I was going to say this, is very rare a movie with jewish villains, the last being ‘Drive’ I think.”

    Moe Greene from The Godfather. And don’t forget The Passion Of The Christ.
     
    Italian triumphalism is an implicit theme in the first two GODFATHER films. CF how Michael defeats the Irish (Sterling Hayden's Captain McCluskey in GODFATHER I), the Jews (Moe Greene in I, Hyman Roth in II), and the WASP political structure (the Senate committee in II).
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  80. @Romanian
    Merlin too!

    “Merlin too!”

    Merlin has that Mulatta actress from the South American country of Guyana.

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    Yeah, that too, but I actually meant the character of Merlin in Once Upon a Time.
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  81. @Stan Adams
    Don't forget The Social Network.

    In 1986, James Cameron got away with casting Paul Reiser as a sociopathic, money-grubbing corporate executive ... nowadays, most directors would cast a blonde-haired, blue-eyed Nordic type as The Evil Corporate Prick.

    “In 1986, James Cameron got away with casting Paul Reiser as a sociopathic, money-grubbing corporate executive … nowadays, most directors would cast a blonde-haired, blue-eyed Nordic type as The Evil Corporate Prick.”

    There were no blond evil corporate pricks in The Big Short. Infact Ryan Gosling’s hair in the film was darker and curlier than it usually is in real life which is blonder and straighter. This is the least Aryan looking Ryan Gosling I have ever seen.

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  82. @Anonymous
    Looks like the very fair, blond/redheaded Domnhall Gleeson is unsurprisingly being typecast in evil Nazi-esque villain and man who loses girl to more exotic man roles.

    “Looks like the very fair, blond/redheaded Domnhall Gleeson is unsurprisingly being typecast in evil Nazi-esque villain and man who loses girl to more exotic man roles.”

    The late blond Paul Walker was never typecast as an evil Nazi. He was always typecast as an alpha male who got all of the girls.

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  83. “It’s a fairly realistic story of a pretty but not exceptionally beautiful Irish girl (Saoirse Ronan)”

    Saoirse Ronan to me looks way prettier as a blonde than as a brunette. It better matches her Northern Euro Celtic features.

    On the flipside, Sandra Bullock for example looks way more attractive as a brunette than as a blonde IMO. I can never get used to fake peroxide blonde Sandra. She will always be a brunette beauty to me.

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  84. @Clifford Brown
    You really should get out more.

    The Nets moved from Jersey to Brooklyn and captured some of that Brooklyn cache. The team is terrible, but as with the Raiders, the "Black and Silver" color scheme (and Jay Z's minority ownership) appeals to urban ruffians and assorted poseurs.

    Bernie and Trump still have great NY Outer Borough accents.

    Whenever someone starts up about Irish Americans, I’m always reminded of P.J. O’Rourke on their most famous exemplars’ matriarch, his ethnic kin:

    “His wife, Rose, was a frigid martinet, unashamed to suckle at the teat of filthy lucre, awash in pietism and Tartuffery, filled with the letter of Catholicism and empty of its spirit…”

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  85. @Jefferson
    "Merlin too!"

    Merlin has that Mulatta actress from the South American country of Guyana.

    Yeah, that too, but I actually meant the character of Merlin in Once Upon a Time.

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  86. So, bury the lead half way into the story. Way to go Steve. Really, you need to cover the lightsaber deal right from the jump.

    Why not just ignore whether or not there are explosions and car chases? And you left out the -Fu quotient. How can we know what kind and how many fights there are if you don’t inform us of the “Kung-Fu” fights, “Chainsaw-Fu” fights, etc?

    I know you are a movie reviewer and all but you leave out or bury the important things that the movie-going public must know. Try better next time. Maybe compare a movie to the latest in the “Fast and Furious” franchise or anything by Tarantino.

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  87. The film Brooklyn has the same Ellis Island European immigrants vibe as Avalon, Once Upon A Time In America and The Godfather Part 2.

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  88. According to this, some of the European immigrants who landed on Ellis Island in the late 19th Century and early 20th Century were actually Gypsies.

    http://myinwood.net/a-band-of-gypsies/

    I wonder if most of the modern day 2015 descendent of these Ellis Island Gypsies assimilated into Whiteness. Also I wonder what percentage of America’s psychic fortune tellers and carnie people have a Gypsy ancestor somewhere in their family tree.

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  89. I used to live in Enniscorthy. It’s the kind of place people emigrate from.

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  90. @Jefferson
    "I was going to say this, is very rare a movie with jewish villains, the last being ‘Drive’ I think."

    Moe Greene from The Godfather. And don't forget The Passion Of The Christ.

    Mel Gibson took a lot of heat for The Passion of the Christ .

    Anyways, here’s another movie with Jewish villain, East West (2000) : the political commissar. They don’t outright say it, but he sure looks like it. Regardless, its a good movie that shows how destructive Bolshevism can be.

    Trailer (look at the guy tearing that book at 0:16, think it’s him):

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  91. @Stan Adams
    Don't forget The Social Network.

    In 1986, James Cameron got away with casting Paul Reiser as a sociopathic, money-grubbing corporate executive ... nowadays, most directors would cast a blonde-haired, blue-eyed Nordic type as The Evil Corporate Prick.

    In 1986, James Cameron got away with casting Paul Reiser as a sociopathic, money-grubbing corporate executive … nowadays, most directors would cast a blonde-haired, blue-eyed Nordic type as The Evil Corporate Prick.

    On the other hand, Reiser’s character in ALIENS was named Carter Burke….which registers pretty much zero on the Jewishness scale.

    Perhaps the rule of thumb is:

    If the bad/unpleasant guy has a Jewish name, he should be played by a non-Jewish actor.

    If the bad/unpleasant guy is played by a Jewish actor, he should have a non-Jewish name.

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  92. @Jefferson
    "I was going to say this, is very rare a movie with jewish villains, the last being ‘Drive’ I think."

    Moe Greene from The Godfather. And don't forget The Passion Of The Christ.

    “I was going to say this, is very rare a movie with jewish villains, the last being ‘Drive’ I think.”

    Moe Greene from The Godfather. And don’t forget The Passion Of The Christ.

    Italian triumphalism is an implicit theme in the first two GODFATHER films. CF how Michael defeats the Irish (Sterling Hayden’s Captain McCluskey in GODFATHER I), the Jews (Moe Greene in I, Hyman Roth in II), and the WASP political structure (the Senate committee in II).

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  93. I like “The Man in the High Castle,” but it is, first and foremost, a Philip K. Dick novel (rather than an Axis-won-the-Second-World-War novel), and as such, its freakin’ nuts.

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    It starts off really cool, but then Dick began to choose the direction of the plot randomly using the I Ching.
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  94. @Kevin O'Keeffe
    I like "The Man in the High Castle," but it is, first and foremost, a Philip K. Dick novel (rather than an Axis-won-the-Second-World-War novel), and as such, its freakin' nuts.

    It starts off really cool, but then Dick began to choose the direction of the plot randomly using the I Ching.

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  95. Crossing Delancey?

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  96. @Romanian
    I enjoyed it, though I am put off by Redmayne for some reason. But Pillars... was made after a series of well researched books, and the author would have, presumably, taken care that the cast reflected expectations of the period. I especially enjoyed the subplot with the religious relic as a source of revenue. I also recommend the wonderful Medieval detective series Cadfael, with Derek Jacobi, for other lessons on life in the period.

    I've seen other movies that had these problems, but in reverse - a recent Turkish movie on the conquest of Constantinople seemed to me (though I might be wrong regarding my assumptions for the time period), to have a ridiculously European (and sexy) looking cast. I know they were a diverse lot, but hardly a swarthier face in sight. In Romanian historical epics, Turkish characters would be played by actors with a bit of make-up, not just period costumes, so I was left with that impression of the period.

    I enjoyed it, though I am put off by Redmayne for some reason.

    He gave off a slightly gay vibe in Pillars. But still a great mini-series I watched on DVD in one weekend. I am glad you saw it. The last five minutes of the movie was great with very inspirational music.

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    It really was inspirational. While Hayley Atwell is very attractive and a good actress, I very much liked the priest character. The actor playing him, Matthew Macfaydden, has a very good voice and presence. I know him from Spooks, but I recently saw him in Ripper, another very good drama, this time set in the late XIXth century. Have you seen Cadfael, which I mentioned before? I have to rate it very high for sheer civilized grittiness, if such a thing can exist. Kind of like how The Warlord changed the squeaky clean paradigm for Medieval movies.
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  97. @Clyde

    I enjoyed it, though I am put off by Redmayne for some reason.
     
    He gave off a slightly gay vibe in Pillars. But still a great mini-series I watched on DVD in one weekend. I am glad you saw it. The last five minutes of the movie was great with very inspirational music. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU9GdoKmFXk

    It really was inspirational. While Hayley Atwell is very attractive and a good actress, I very much liked the priest character. The actor playing him, Matthew Macfaydden, has a very good voice and presence. I know him from Spooks, but I recently saw him in Ripper, another very good drama, this time set in the late XIXth century. Have you seen Cadfael, which I mentioned before? I have to rate it very high for sheer civilized grittiness, if such a thing can exist. Kind of like how The Warlord changed the squeaky clean paradigm for Medieval movies.

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  98. @Clifford Brown
    You really should get out more.

    The Nets moved from Jersey to Brooklyn and captured some of that Brooklyn cache. The team is terrible, but as with the Raiders, the "Black and Silver" color scheme (and Jay Z's minority ownership) appeals to urban ruffians and assorted poseurs.

    Bernie and Trump still have great NY Outer Borough accents.

    I’ve followed the Nets since their days in Teaneck. I “got out” to some games at Piscataway. Can you find those on a map?

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  99. @Jefferson
    "I’ve seen Asian-American cops in L.A., S.F., Seattle, Boston, NYC, Northern Virginia and Maryland, as well as among the federal law enforcement (and I even trained with a few). Being a police officer is not a desirable occupation among most Asian-Americans, but LEOs of Asian descent are not exactly rare."

    Filipino Americans do not seem to thumb their noses at blue collar occupations like members of the military and police officers. I wonder if their Catholicism has anything to do with them being less snobbish on average than Chinese Americans.

    Also I notice that Filipino American women on average are more open than Chinese American women when it comes to dating and marrying men who do not have a bachelor's degree.

    Filipino Americans do not seem to thumb their noses at blue collar occupations like members of the military and police officers. I wonder if their Catholicism has anything to do with them being less snobbish on average than Chinese Americans.

    That may have to do with the fact that ethnically non-Chinese Filipinos are less educated than East Asians. It may also have something to do with some combination of genetics and culture – Filipinos in America have the most positive views about race relations among all Asian groups here (the opposite end of the spectrum is Korean-Americans, who have the most dim view of race relations, probably because of their conflicts with blacks). They are much more “happy go lucky” than East Asians.

    Filipinos and Vietnamese are well-represented in the enlisted and NCO ranks of the military (Filipinos in the Navy in particular) while Koreans are well-presented in the army officer corps (in many graduating classes, Kim is the most prevalent surname at West Point). Chinese and Indians are largely absent from both. They are most likely to be economic migrants, and are not nearly as assimilated in civic and social spheres as Filipinos, Vietnamese, and Koreans are. In other words, they are here to make money, not to bleed for America.

    Also I notice that Filipino American women on average are more open than Chinese American women when it comes to dating and marrying men who do not have a bachelor’s degree.

    Again, assortative mating.

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  100. @Joe Walker
    I believe that one reason why "Brooklyn" was nominated is that the Irish girl ultimately chooses the Italian guy over the Irish one. Therefore she is choosing to marry outside of her group which is something that Hollywood loves - at least when white gentile women do it.

    In this case, it’s a form of out-marriage so widely practiced as to responsible for new ethnogenesis- “Irish-Italian” is practically a race of its own in the Northeastern US. I must personally know at least seven families with that mix just off the top of my head, and could probably remember plenty more, given time. I certainly have enough part-Italian cousins and in-laws to regard Italo-Americans as close brother-tribe to mine. The same goes for Polish-Americans.

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  101. @Joe Walker
    I believe that one reason why "Brooklyn" was nominated is that the Irish girl ultimately chooses the Italian guy over the Irish one. Therefore she is choosing to marry outside of her group which is something that Hollywood loves - at least when white gentile women do it.

    In this case, it’s a form of out-marriage so widely practiced as to responsible for new ethnogenesis- “Irish-Italian” is practically a race of its own in the Northeastern US. I must personally know at least seven families with that mix just off the top of my head, and could probably remember plenty more, given time. I certainly have enough part-Italian cousins and in-laws to regard Italo-Americans as close brother-tribe to mine. The same goes for Polish-Americans.

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