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From The Telegraph (UK):

Man investigated by police for retweeting transgender limerick

Camilla Tominey, associate editor Joani Walsh
24 JANUARY 2019 • 10:00PM

A docker from Humberside has been investigated by police over a limerick he posted on Twitter after an officer claimed it constitutes a ‘hate incident’ against transgender people.

Harry Miller, 53, from Lincoln was contacted on Wednesday by a community cohesion officer following a complaint that had been made about the plant and machinery dealer’s social media posts.

Citing 30 potentially offensive tweets, the PC singled out a limerick Mr Miller had retweeted which questioned whether transgender women are biological women. It included the lines: “Your breasts are made of silicone, your vagina goes nowhere.”

Even though no crime was committed, sharing the limerick online was recorded as a ‘hate incident’.

PC Mansoor Gul told Mr Miller: “I’ve been on a course and what you need to understand is that you can have a foetus with a female brain that grows male body parts and that’s what a transgender person is.”

4. I said, I didn’t write that. He said, ‘Ah. But you Liked it and promoted it.’
I asked why he was wasting his time on a non crime. He said, ‘It’s not a crime, but it will be recorded as a hate incident.’

After Mr Miller questioned why the complainant was being described as a “victim” if no crime had been committed, the officer told him: “We need to check your thinking”.

 
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  1. community cohesion officer

    • Agree: Liza, fish
    • Replies: @Joe, Averaged
    , @Reg Cæsar
  2. I don’t see why a docker should have to be a fake SJW if a woman trapped in a man’s body doesn’t have to fake being a man.

  3. This is the result of policies that people deemed too intelligent are not allowed to join the police. The dumber, the better. And these specimens sure are dumber than their betters.

    • Replies: @Alden
  4. Anonymous[151] • Disclaimer says:

    Woke police and prosecutors, coming soon to the US. I wonder how all the law-and-order types who read this blog will feel when guys are getting jail time for making a drunken pass at the office Christmas party under the guise of “preventing assault” or whatever.

    • Replies: @bomag
  5. James Speaks was at the grocery store recently where he committed several hateful thought crimes.

    1. Purchased a dozen eggs. No, not to make breakfast for a week, but to remove a year’s supply of eggs, implying that the women there needed to stop their monthly unspeakable thing.

    2. He purchased peanut butter. This was done to mock George Washington Carver, who did not invent peanut butter during his creative period (ooh, that word again, with hateful implications), though he did invent the peanut fission bomb, the peanut interstellar warp drive, and the peanut time machine. It is a hate thought crime to mention peanut butter.

    3. He purchased laundry powder. This is a hate thought crime for two reasons: a) implies that POC should stick to manual labor and b) laundry powder is white.

    The list goes on, which is another instance of hate thought crime, as it suggests that minorities don’t know when to stop, even though they don’t, but to notice is also a hate throught crime. As a matter of fact, everything James Speaks says or does is a hate thought crime. For example, James Speaks is want to say, “I think, therefore I am.” Merely by existing, James Speaks is committing hate thought crimes.

  6. PC Mansoor Gul told Mr Miller: “I’ve been on a course and what you need to understand is that you can have a foetus with a female brain that grows male body parts and that’s what a transgender person is.”

    So the thought police are on a course that everyone must understand. Female brains are different than male ones; and everyone must toe this line. …

    …unless you think that female brains and male brains are distinguished in a way which finds the gendered-neurons not ideal for certain- we’ll say– mental tasks. Nothing could be farther from the truth! Female brains are exactly like male brains; there is no difference, and maybe female brains are better! They are undifferentiated or indistinguishable, in total. The same goes for of any and all physical differences in capabilities that toxic masculinity conjures up to keep the patriarchy conspiracy going.

    Except when these totally the same blobs just end up in different bodies. Then it’s totally different and yet, same.

    …haven’t we passed the point where this needs to be explained? The point is: are you toeing the line or what? I get that, you get that, Speech Officer Gul gets that. Toe the line, bigot! And put your body into it!

    • Agree: songbird
    • LOL: bomag
    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
  7. Once again, reality tops fiction. Actually his poem is not a limerick at all:

    You’re a man.

    Your breasts are made of silicone

    Your vagina goes nowhere

    And we can tell the difference

    Even when you are not there

    Your hormones are synthetic

    And lets just cross this bridge

    What you have you stupid man

    Is male privilege.

    You’re a man, you’re a man

    We can say it, yes we can

    That you’ll never be a woman

    Even if that is your plan

    Every cell is coded male

    From your birth until the grave

    You are simply a man

    Neither stunning nor brave

    Your penis isn’t womanly

    Your wig is poorly made

    Your idea of womanhood

    Just doesn’t make the grade

    You think we are just caricatures

    Or porn tropes for your use

    You pretend that you can be us

    But it’s merely more abuse

    Your great big hands and manly head

    Are difficult to hide

    A hand in front of Adam’s fruit

    Proof does not provide

    That you have changed your actual sex

    Because your brain is pink

    It’s laughable to those of us

    Who can actually think.

  8. El Dato says:

    Well, that was back in January, when Brexit was a far-away problem, “knife crime” and “acid crime” was nonexistant and an undivided Britain ruled over the waves, chasing away meek and decrepit Russian Aircraft Carriers with the mighty F-35 (the “Ghost” series). The event caused some mirth back then.

    PC Mansoor Gul told Mr Miller: “I’ve been on a course and what you need to understand is that you can have a foetus with a female brain that grows male body parts and that’s what a transgender person is.”

    Politicial Commissar Gul, was that course held in an imposing state building adorned with various symbols and slogans on flags, posters or stone indicating togetherness, solidarity and social cohesion?

    How was the content of that course reconciled with the fact that there are no differences between those so-called “male” and “female” brains?

    • Replies: @Nachum
    , @guest
  9. guest says:

    Forgot to put “retweets not necessarily endorsements” on his profile?

  10. Someone called Mansoor Gul uses state power in England to intimidate a man called Harry Miller.

    Who would ever have thought it?

    Oh, yeah. Enoch Powell, 1968: “In this country in 15 or 20 years’ time the black man will have the whip hand over the white man”.

  11. Alden says:
    @Fran Macadam

    It’s the result of the police wasting their time going on diversity training courses and assigned to monitor social media for incorrect thought.
    The officer didn’t do this on his own. He was told to do it, the way animal control sends someone out to deliver a warning about a dog bite.

    The transgender thing comes from the elite leadership, just as ignoring tens of thousands of rapes of very young English girls by Muslims came from the elite leadership

  12. El Dato says:

    OT:

    Meanwhile, get ready for the de-biasing police, armed, presumably, with spreadsheets, lists of desirable outcomes and graduate books about statistical testing and randomized controlled trial protocols.

    Uncle Sam wants to tackle bias in algorithms by ordering tech corps to explain how their machines really work: New bill grants the FTC powers to investigate companies

    The Algorithmic Accountability Act is focused on regulating “automated decision systems”. Congress has considers these systems as more of a “computational process,” used to help companies make decisions that directly impact consumers. The systems are built on techniques in machine learning, statistics or AI.

    Tackling bias and discrimination is a hot subject in AI. Researchers have already shown that commercial facial recognition systems struggle more when trying to identify women and people of color. Experts in the AI community have urged the government to take a stronger approach to regulating tech companies, and it looks like the US government is slowly starting to take notice.

    This whole idea does not sound very solid. Will de-biasing continue until expected results are achieved? Much like the Google Ethics board, which had to be disbanded because the membership was not one-sided enough, this will end in tears. This is going to be especially tough to police as so far there is no theory on how to think about how artificial neural networks (so-called “AI”) actually reach their conclusions, but Google (and others) are working on this.

    Maybe we will be forced to go back to GOFAI (Good Old Fashioned AI), i.e. expert systems with “if you see … then do … ” and “whenever you know … then you also know …” rules.

  13. Alden says:

    Off topic

    That rap singer Hussel’s funeral is tomorrow at the Staples center downtown. It’s the same place Michael Jackson’s was. Fruits of Islam will provide security. Also hundreds of police officers on overtime. There will be street closings. Thousands of people have arrived from all over the country. At least they could have had it on the weekend and not disrupt the work week

  14. And this kids, is why it ain’t Great Britain anymore.

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
  15. eah says:

    Not unrelated: a society cannot attempt to emasculate men and boys, expecting no pushback or consequences.

    Rugby Australia says it intends to terminate Israel Folau’s contract following a social media post by the full-back in which he said “hell awaits” gay people.

  16. @Alden

    Thanks. iSteve has been deplorably lacking in the latest Nipsy Hussle news lately.

  17. Though this poem by the Brit is just brilliant,
    these posts by iSteve are reprllent.
    True, you are what you are,
    and you ain’t what you ain’t,
    but those silicone breasts are resilient.

  18. @Tono Bungay

    I’m no poetry fan, but that really is good stuff. Is that the complete poem, Mr. Bungay? I may want to post it on Peak Stupidity

    • Replies: @Tono Bungay
  19. DFH says:

    PC Mansoor Gul told Mr Miller: “I’ve been on a course and what you need to understand is that you can have a foetus with a female brain that grows male body parts and that’s what a transgender person is.”

    Is there anything more clown world than a Muslim policeman repeating muddled tranny ideology in response to a limerick-inflicted hate crime?

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @Fredrik
    , @songbird
  20. DFH says:
    @Richard of Melbourne

    But the tranny (and J-) has the whip hand over them both

  21. He’s an officer of social cohesion.
    What he doesn’t know is just legion.
    Be it low-level hate
    or Bubba’s boob-bait
    To the Ministry of Truth it’s high treason.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @Mr. Anon
  22. LondonBob says:

    Reminder we have a supposedly Conservative government at the moment, can we swap May for Trump please?

    • Replies: @Thea
  23. Ed says:

    So where’s the UK’s Conservative party during this nonsense?

    • Replies: @Gordo
    , @neutral
    , @dfordoom
  24. Ed says:
    @Alden

    Very few of these people could rap one verse of any of his sing. This isn’t a natural mourning but one induced by social media. Folks just want to be part of the action.

    • Replies: @bomag
  25. Gordo says:

    Thank God we fought and won two World Wars so PC Mansoor Gul could check our thinking.

    • Replies: @tyrone
    , @peterike
  26. Gordo says:
    @Ed

    So where’s the UK’s Conservative party during this nonsense?

    Encouraging and enabling it, Conservative in name only, anti-British, anti-White, anti-family and anti-Christian.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  27. neutral says:
    @Ed

    So where’s the UK’s Conservative party during this nonsense?

    They are supporting and enforcing this, they are as conservative as North Korea is a peoples democracy.

  28. And I am supposed to believe that the Royal Academy of Sciences actually tested the correct polio vaccine for SIV/HIV.

    Laughing. I don’t think so.

  29. bomag says:
    @Anonymous

    I wonder how all the law-and-order types who read this blog will feel when guys are getting jail time for [some modern, politically incorrect bit of mopery]

    Well, we expect law & order to comport with what is good and fair. If it is twisted into serving evil, we can certainly change our viewpoint of the institution.

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
  30. Where’s Eustace Tilly (Not) when you need him!

  31. Britain is lost to the West.

  32. Paul says:

    PC Mansoor Gul told Mr Miller: “I’ve been on a course and what you need to understand is that you can have a foetus with a female brain that grows male body parts and that’s what a transgender person is.”

    Did PC Mansoor Gul provide proof for his opinion? And why not reach the more obvious conclusion that the “transgender” person is simply mentally ill?

  33. British Bobbies took a break from cracking down on limericks and cracked down on Julian Assange

    He’d been expelled from the embassy of Equador

  34. Travis says:

    “As part of the complaint to police it was alleged the firm was an ‘unsafe environment’ for transgender employees” –

    If British law enforcement can prosecute firms an employees tweets , what stops them from prosecuting Twitter for disseminating hateful poetry ? These tweets reach far outside the workplace where all British people can be harmed by the tweets , thus Twitter needs to be held accountable for allowing the uK to be an unsafe environment for trannies.

  35. Why, Mansoor, are you giving such dookie
    Over tweets about cul-de-sac nookie
    To a docker from Hull?
    You’re a boy who’s a Gul;
    Is that why on this subject you’re kooky?

    • LOL: Harry Baldwin
  36. bomag says:
    @El Dato

    Will de-biasing continue until expected results are achieved?

    Yes.

  37. Anonymous[137] • Disclaimer says:

    Oi mate, you got a loicence for that hate poem?

  38. bomag says:
    @Ed

    Very few of these people could rap one verse of any of his songs

    Likely zero will be playing his “songs” one year from now.

  39. El Dato says:
    @eah

    Tasmania makes declaring gender on birth certificates optional in divisive raft of reforms

    Australia’s state of Tasmania has passed a measure giving parents the option of not listing gender on birth certificates, sparking backlash from the island’s premier and those who believe such a move hurts women and free speech.

    The new rule also permits trans people to change the gender on all identity documents without having sex reassignment surgery or counseling, and allows 16-year-olds to change their gender without parental approval. It also bans “hate speech and offensive language” against people on the basis of their gender identity.

    These provisions were attached as amendments onto a bill that originally just ended the legal mandate forcing individuals undergoing gender transition to divorce their partners.

    Hearty Laugh from Downunder!

  40. El Dato says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    You now picture Winston Smith, going through proles’ telegrams, looking for misgenderingcrime.

  41. tyrone says:
    @Gordo

    It’s almost like someone turned the tables………spooky.

  42. OI! Got a loicense for that limerick, mate?

  43. And the pedophile narcissist Pete Townshend goes on tour this May with the Who money making machine……Britain is a nation that deserves to die!!!!

  44. @El Dato

    “commercial facial recognition systems struggle more when trying to identify women and people of color”

    Ah, well it’s not just me then.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  45. njguy73 says:
    @eah

    I’ll keep asking this question until I get a satisfactory answer:

    What’s stopping the government from offering floundering men money in order to transition to female? Is it mental health risks associated with gender transitioning? If so, then why is this mental-health-threatening practice being celebrated by our culture?

    Men who are marginalized by society will remain a menace, and the time is coming when society either deals with it or faces a reign of terror like we have never seen.

    • Replies: @guest
  46. Mr. Anon says:

    PC Mansoor Gul……

    There’s part of your problem right there.

    …………told Mr Miller: “I’ve been on a course and what you need to understand is that you can have a foetus with a female brain that grows male body parts and that’s what a transgender person is.”

    Ah, the flatfoot has “been on a course”. Well, that settles things.

    Of course, in other contexts, to even suggest that there is such a thing as a “female brain”, or that the brain of a female and a male are different in any way, is itself a hate-crime.

    One may dispense with any notion that Britain is a free country. Whatever the “historical liberties of the Englishman” may have been (we’re not sure, since you never wrote them down), they don’t exist any longer. I don’t think America or the rest of the anglo-saxon World will be far behind.

  47. Anonymous[415] • Disclaimer says:

    I’ve composed exactly one limerick in my life. This seems to be the right time and place to unveil it.

    There was a young lady named Markle
    Whose eyes lit up with a sparkle
    My dear darling Harry
    Let’s go ahead and marry
    And watch our kids grow up and darkle.

  48. I for one am appalled at the un-Woke-ness of PC Mansoor Gul and the constabulary he represents. Someone outside of Ireland posting a limerick is a flagrant case of cultural appropriation! Why no investigation of that, the real crime here?

    When oh when will the citizens of Humberside ever get the policing they paid for and deserve?

    O Tempora! O Mores!

  49. Mr. Anon says:

    When the docker’s busy othering a trannie,
    And his thinking needs some checking by the Fuzz,
    The things a constable must do are just uncanny,
    A policeman’s lot is really quite a buzz.

  50. When Gul-lible agents of State
    “Learn” that mocking insanity’s “hate”,
    There are more, in their “courses”,
    Horses’ asses than horses
    In Britain The-No-Longer-Great.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  51. Mr. Anon says:
    @Alden

    That rap singer Hussel’s funeral is tomorrow at the Staples center downtown.

    I wonder how many knifings and/or shootings there will be? Is there a pool? Put me down for three.

    • Replies: @res
    , @res
  52. peterike says:
    @Gordo

    Thank God we fought and won two World Wars so PC Mansoor Gul could check our thinking.

    That’s actually WHY you fought two World Wars.

  53. Anonymous[322] • Disclaimer says:

    Pure Python.

  54. Anonymous[322] • Disclaimer says:

    Someone please post that scurrilous irreverent British Chav’s version of the ‘Lord’s Prayer’.

  55. Anonymous[373] • Disclaimer says:
    @Almost Missouri

    Select eye color: Brown
    Select hair color: Black
    Select skin color: Brown

    Vive la diversite!

  56. Mr. Anon says:
    @Gordo

    Encouraging and enabling it, Conservative in name only, anti-British, anti-White, anti-family and anti-Christian.

    The current Home Secretary, whom I believe would be PC Gul’s boss, is Sajid Javid.

    MP Javid is busy today arresting Julian Assange and assuring us all what a bad guy he is.

    The mask is slipping from these government goons, who are not even pretending anymore to be anything other than enforcers of state power.

  57. @Achmed E. Newman

    sorry, i don’t know any more about it. i put the two lines that Sailer quoted into my DuckDuckGo searcher and found the rest somewhere. i think i copy/pasted the whole thing, but don’t know if my source did.

  58. @El Dato

    Machine learning is based on feedback from reality, so it’s inherently problematic in the Current Year.

  59. @DFH

    Well he has been on a course.

    Read Feynman on Brazilian education.

  60. @eah

    I love how the ‘Boy Crisis’ writer believes the situation will simply be fixed by ‘involved fathers’.

    Perhaps there would be more involved fathers if Globohomocorp hadn’t spent the last 30+years brainwashing the West about the worthlessness of men, husbands, fathers, marriage, and families.

    • Replies: @eah
  61. eah says:
    @eah

  62. @Achmed E. Newman

    A bottle-blonde London Eastender
    Whose frame was remarkably slender
    Said these Bristol Cities
    Are not real titties
    Nor Fulham, just feel’em, they’re transgender.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  63. DFH says:
    @Desiderius

    That was interesting to read. But I don’t think in this case the policeman has just memorised it.

    You can tell he’s thought about what they told him, but translated it into a version that actually ‘makes more sense’ to him (trans = woman’s brain in man’s body) whereas on the course they probably included all sorts of caveats about gender and women and men being social constructs.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  64. @Buzz Mohawk

    How is this different from China’s social scoring?

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  65. @James Speaks

    Our particular phase just now permits us to poke fun at this. I hope everyone enjoys this phase. It won’t last.

    • Replies: @James Speaks
  66. A docker from Lincoln once tweeted
    Exactly what trans people needed
    He scorned their fake boobs
    And laughed at their pubes
    Then things got predictably heated.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  67. @Tono Bungay

    Once again, reality tops fiction. Actually his poem is not a limerick at all

    You’re right, of course. It’s a pity; the subject cries out for a limerick treatment. I’ll think about it and see what I can come up with.

    (Added by edit: as soon as I posted, I saw that the commentariat has already taken care of business. Better than I would have, I must add.)

  68. @Tono Bungay

    I wonder if posting lyrics to rap songs will get you a phone call from the police. I’ve heard some pretty racially offensive stuff, not to mention the way females (real ones, too!) are portrayed.

    • Replies: @Michael S
    , @Reg Cæsar
  69. AndrewR says:

    Prince Philip needs to take his rightful place as the de facto ruler of that pathetic country.

  70. @Alden

    “The transgender thing comes from the elite leadership”

    UK senior police were until (I think) the late Blair years recruited through the ranks – everyone started out as a constable. This meant that the top guys had all spend many years at the sharp end and were reasonably “based”.

    Now graduates (i.e. well-indoctrinated people) can come in on a fast-track scheme, do a couple of weeks grunt work and end up telling experienced officers how to police.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44433881

    Graduates can become detectives “in a matter of months” with the help of a new fast-track training programme…

    South Wales Police Chief Constable Matt Jukes said: “Crime is changing, so we need people who are going to be cyber investigators, who can deal with a massive amount of information that’s coming through social media.”

    He added that investigators are currently under pressure due to the shortage of available staff. Police forces are also looking at attracting PCs and civilian detectives to make up the 5,000 shortfall.

    Mr Jukes said that new detectives would work on crime and robbery cases at the beginning of their training, rather than more complex cases.

    “[We must] recognise they’re working under enormous pressure, this is the opportunity to bring in a diverse and talented group of people,” he said.

    The Home Office is working with Police Now, a police graduate recruitment programme, to develop the entry scheme.

    David Spencer, a former detective and co-founder of Police Now, said he hoped the programme “will encourage a new group of diverse and brilliant individuals to enter the police service and contribute to the outstanding work being done by existing detectives up and down the country.”

    But don’t worry, I’m sure the training company will be run by hard-nosed former officers? Oh.

    https://www.policenow.org.uk/about-us/who-we-are/#board-members

    They really are going for full-spectrum dominance, aren’t they?

    Police Now’s mission is to transform communities, reduce crime and increase the public’s confidence in policing. How? By recruiting and developing a diverse group of individuals to be leaders in society and on the policing frontline.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @anon
  71. @Alden

    The courts indeed ruled that a person tested for intelligence, scoring too high, can be denied employment as a police officer, for that reason alone.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Alden
  72. Thea says:

    The real problem is that someone named Mansoor Gul has this power.

    How do we get back to where we once were?

    • Replies: @Alfa158
  73. Thea says:
    @LondonBob

    We have trans mania running rampant here as well

  74. @Desiderius

    Yes…that’s the story about the Brewster angle…..look it up …Brewster angle….on Wikipedia….

    But the Brazilians have always been quite strong in Mathematics and not too shabby in Computer Science….

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  75. BB753 says:

    I weep for Britain. And to think it used to be the greatest and one of the more free countries on earth! Though the limericks are still funny!

  76. fish says:
    @Tono Bungay

    Your vagina goes nowhere

    That is a first rate internet insult!

    “Hey Tiny Duck…..your vagina goes nowhere…..!

  77. Alfa158 says:

    British military casualties from the World Wars:
    Dead: 1,401,264
    Wounded, crippled, maimed: 2,061,239
    A glorious sacrifice.
    Ultimate outcome: someone named Mansoor Gul can invade the home of a “Britons never, ever will be slaves” Englishman and deliver a sharp warning regarding what he is permitted to think and say.
    Sweet.

    • Agree: Ibound1
    • Replies: @Matra
  78. @Mister.Baseball

    PC Mansoor Gul told Mr Miller: “I’ve been on a course and what you need to understand..”

    So very much said in so few words. With enforced Diversity Training in all but the smallest firms in the USA, this isn’t so foreign. It was here at UNZ that I learned that white men aren’t permitted to just ‘sit there’ during Training. Nope, they’re forced to engage in fabricated re-enactments showing just how awful they are. Humiliations, we might call them. Come home Mao. All is forgiven.

  79. @Richard of Melbourne

    I had the same thought but you put it much better than I.

  80. Nachum says:
    @El Dato

    Women can be said to have different brains when it benefits them: “We need more compassionate female legislators!” “He has a female brain in a male body!”

    This cannot be said in any other context, of course, such as, “Women aren’t good at math.”

  81. Nachum says:

    I’m sure that a Pakistani like Gul has perfectly acceptable ideas about trannies himself. I wonder what his imam says about that.

    But the brown skin protects.

  82. @El Dato

    Much like the Google Ethics board,…

    Google Ethics, eh? Now there is an oxymoron if I ever heard one. Blacklisting conservatives in the USA and helping the ChiComms oppress their own people. Don’t be evil, my butt.

  83. @Desiderius

    That’s not all that different from how students are being taught in elementary and high schools in the U.S. now.

    • Agree: Desiderius
  84. @Richard of Melbourne

    Is “on a course” how Brits say “taking a course”? At first I thought maybe Mansoor Gul was himself undergoing sex change.

  85. PC ‘Mansoor Gul’ has ‘been on a course,’ you see.

    I stand corrected.

    When Mohammedans from the other side of the globe are pimping and gang-raping your children, and anyone who mentions it is put in prison, it’s all over.

    When ‘English’ police constables named ‘Mansoor Gul’ are threatening your men for sharing a poem online, you might as well all get sex changes and report for duty to your local pimp.

    RIP England, you had a good run.

  86. Matra says:
    @Alfa158

    Several generations – about as many as those who died in the wars could’ve realistically worried about – had better lives, or at least had the opportunity for better lives, than pretty much every generation in British history. But apparently no thread on any country that fought Germany, particularly Britain, is complete without tendentious ‘zingers’ and snark connecting every bad happening in 2019 to WW1&2.

  87. Mansoor Gul = Slug a moron.

    Limerick itself could be taken as a Keltikaphobic hate term, as the people of that city and county long resented its use. But it seems they’ve come around to embrace it:

    https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/is-the-limerick-a-limerick-invention-1.3196974

  88. @Tono Bungay

    Tono, dedicate the poem to Jennifer Pritzker. The hands and hair references are so notable in Jen. Some one can post her/his photo.

  89. @Alden

    Anon, you too funny. What’s a work week? Has a rapper ever rapped about having a job? Going to work ?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Alden
  90. Here’s a not-perfectly-remembered classic from Gershom Legman’s collection:

    There was a young lady of Spain
    Who was f***** by a monk in a drain.
    They did it again
    And again and again
    And again and again and again.

  91. Fredrik says:
    @Richard of Melbourne

    Hardly anyone in Britain complains about Commonwealth immigrants like PC Gul.

    I’m sure some British commenter will try to deny that they are a tiny minority. If it had been PC Kaszcynski on the other hand all bets would be off…

  92. Fredrik says:
    @DFH

    Just think how he tries to explain to his family what he’s doing.

  93. @Reg Cæsar

    Here’s my dirtiest one, with no actual cuss words:

    Latest details about Stormy Daniels
    (Being leaked to the public in granules):
    Before he dismissed ’er,
    Trump whizzed in her kisser,
    Then caca’d all over her spaniels.

  94. @Buffalo Joe

    Anon, you too funny. What’s a work week? Has a rapper ever rapped about having a job? Going to work ?

    Start the genre. After all, you’re from the home of FW Meacham, Ray Henderson, Harold Arlen, and Ani DiFranco.

    I couldn’t find Robert Klein’s “Middle-Class Educated Blues” online, so this will have to do:

  95. TWS says:

    I’m glad that Britain has solved their crime. They’re monitoring manners now.

  96. @the one they call Desanex

    I posted one early this morning specifically about Mansoor and the docker. Watch for it, it may eventually struggle through moderation.

  97. Globohomocorp in action at Lehigh University:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-11/college-promotes-mens-cuddling-group-redefine-masculinity

    Meanwhile, in our latest mandatory corporate training the vidclips have moved beyond just trashing white men to include white women as villains or ignorants to be busted or corrected by heroic blacks and browns.

  98. @the one they call Desanex

    Why, Mansoor, are you giving such dookie
    Over tweets about cul-de-sac nookie
    To a docker from Hull?
    You’re a boy who’s a Gul;
    Is that why on this subject you’re kooky?

  99. @Jonathan Mason

    A little off on the meter at the end, but good one anyway, Jonathan.

  100. @Matra

    I think you’re missing Alfa’s point, Matra, along with probably a lot of other’s. It’s not about connecting these bad happenings to WWI/WWII. If you found a living veteran (none left from WWI, I think, but plenty from the latter), what do you think they would think of their sacrifice and that of their lost and maimed brothers-in-arms, seeing what Britain has turned into? Was it worth it?

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    , @Matra
  101. res says:
    @James Speaks

    3. He purchased laundry powder. This is a hate thought crime for two reasons: a) implies that POC should stick to manual labor and b) laundry powder is white.

    How could you leave out
    c) laundry powder makes whites whiter and brightens colors

  102. @Achmed E. Newman

    The E.U.’ll be the death of a nation
    Spurred by hyperbolic oration
    From a man named Kalergi
    Who was kinda Aspergy
    And favored a sects-change operation

  103. res says:
    @Mr. Anon

    I wonder how many knifings and/or shootings there will be? Is there a pool? Put me down for three.

    I think you might be being optimistic: https://www.accessonline.com/articles/nipsey-hussle-vigil-breaks-out-in-riots

    The memorial in honor of Grammy-nominated rapper Nipsey Hussle turned violent on Monday night after fans gathered outside the artist’s apparel store in Los Angeles.

    Hundreds showed up to “The Marathon Clothing” store where Nipsey was gunned down just one day earlier, but things took a turn for the worse when panic broke out and fans tried to flee. According to multiple reports, riots quickly ensued and patrons were trampled as they evacuated the scene.

    One person was stabbed and many others sustained unknown injuries from the incident, according to multiple reports.

    The LAFD said an alleged shooting call was made at the time of the vigil, but Chief Michel Moore of the Los Angeles Police Department said on Twitter that said there was no evidence of shots fired.

    I wonder if they will have metal detectors and/or a police presence at the funeral. Seriously.

  104. songbird says:
    @DFH

    I rather like the name “PC Mansoor Gul.” The strangeness of the rest of it just highlights the “PC”, which I take as a pun. When you add in “community cohesion officer”, it just makes the whole thing seem like some brilliant, dystopian sci-fi.

    • Replies: @Cortes
  105. Ibound1 says:
    @Matra

    Britain supposedly fought for its “freedom”, not better appliances.

    • Replies: @Matra
  106. @War for Blair Mountain

    Not slagging on Brazil. Pointing out what mismatch/credentialism looks like on the job. There are whites and Asians like this too.

  107. @the one they call Desanex

    I thought of Hull as a possible rhyme for Gul before I even knew that Hull was part of Humberside. (I had to google it.) It’s an instinct, I tell ya!

  108. Well at least he didn’t shoot some poor blond standing next to his police car, so there’s that.

  109. Kinks, Living on a Thin Line:

    All the stories have been told
    Of kings and days of old,
    But there’s no England now.
    All the wars that were won and lost,
    Somehow don’t seem to matter very much anymore.
    All the lies we were told,
    All the lies of the people running round,
    Their castles have burned.
    I see change,
    But inside we’re the same as we ever were.

    Living on a thin line,
    Tell me now, what are we supposed to do?
    Living on a thin line,
    Tell me now, what are we supposed to do?

    Living on a thin line,
    Living this way, each day is a dream.
    What am I, what are we supposed to do?
    Living on a thin line,
    Tell me now, what are we supposed to do?

    Now another century nearly gone,
    What are we gonna leave for the young?
    What we couldn’t do, what we wouldn’t do,
    It’s a crime, but does it matter?
    Does it matter much, does it matter much to you?
    Does it ever really matter?
    Yes, it really, really matters.

    Living on a thin line,
    Tell me now, what are we supposed to do?
    Living on a thin line,
    Tell me now, what are we supposed to do?

    Now another leader says:
    “Break their hearts and break some heads”.
    Is there nothing we can say or do?
    Blame the future on the past,
    Always lost in bloody guts.
    And when they’re gone, it’s me and you.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  110. Michael S says:
    @El Dato

    The “Algorithmic Accountability Act” is pure regulatory capture, designed to give large corporations with huge Diversity and Inclusion departments an unfair advantage over smaller businesses who want to use AI to solve actual problems.

    I guarantee you that FAAG will somehow be found to be completely above-board, while their competitors will be in violation.

  111. Even in countries with a First Amendment that supposedly protects political speech, the crackdown on hate speech pertains to speech offenses against various minority groups, not hate speech targeting individual citizens and designed to humiliate them in the public square, even individual children despite the recent statistical increase in suicides of teenaged girls—one of the most (if not the most) sensitive group when it comes to go-for-the-jugular teenaged bullying, so all groups are not alike when it comes to hate-speech monitoring.

  112. Michael S says:
    @stillCARealist

    I’m always amazed to come to places like this and see ostensible righties continuing to fantasize that the left’s rules are or ever could be objective or principled.

    Rap lyrics will be policed as arbitrarily as anything else. If they’re shared in service to progressive power, then A++, you’re good to go. If opposed to their power, then you get visited by Mansoor. It’s really not that complicated. They may not be the sharpest knives in the drawer, but they know who their enemies are and that’s what matters.

  113. @res

    How could you leave out
    c) laundry powder makes whites whiter and brightens colors

    James Speaks was overwhelmed with cognitive dissonance… dark thoughts … re:bright colors. …. fear of vibrant laundry …

  114. Cortes says:
    @songbird

    I imagine that the next editor of

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gul_(name)

    will include our heroic Defender of the Transgender.

    A rose by…

  115. @the one they call Desanex

    In the last line, did you mean, as in Cocker Spaniel too? If so, that’s excellent.

  116. @Meretricious

    Our particular phase just now permits us to poke fun at this. I hope everyone enjoys this phase. It won’t last.

    Methinks the idea is to be like Joshua of old; employ critical thinking to find a flaw in the nanny narrative, use creativity to critique the flaw in a such as way as to make the critique a) more appealing than the narrative and b) memorable. For example:

    Nanny Goodleft makes it a crime to choose Beethoven over Blueface, Mozart over Mystikal, Tchaikovsky over T-Pain.

    Nanny Goodleft opposes our right to make choices.

  117. Alden says:
    @Fran Macadam

    That has nothing to do with the mandated diversity training courses and the commanders who assign low ranking officers to spying on social media and ordering officers like Gul to go out with warning notices about social
    Media posts

  118. Alden says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Affirmative action by another name. Run non English non Whites gays trannies etc through a low level
    junior college for a couple years and move them right to detective and commanders.

    America and Britain have a lot in common.

  119. Alfa158 says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Subtlety is not everyone’s strong point.

  120. guest says:
    @El Dato

    Uh, he knows there are physical differences between male and female brains, right? And that they usual go with the proper bodyparts.

    Shoulda said mind, in which case we’d be out in makebelieve, la-di-da Freud Land. Where you can say whatever pops into your head and do coke all night.

  121. Alden says:
    @Fran Macadam

    Community Cohesion Officers are not police officers.

    They don’t investigate crimes. One thing they do is spy on social media, listen to private conversation and harass those like Miller who don’t go along with the latest liberal hysteria

    It’s an affirmative action sort of auxiliary busybody job. They are supposed to tamp down tensions caused by government immigration policy. It’s a typical native indigenous English need not apply government job

  122. @res

    c) laundry powder makes whites whiter and brightens colors

    Seriously, how do you brighten colors?

    • Replies: @res
  123. guest says:
    @njguy73

    They’re probably still working on the Terminal Man solution.

  124. Alden says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    Rappers and their fans don’t work but downtown is full of people who do work there and don’t want to be held up. Then think of the delivery trucks, guys on service calls and people who take buses that drive by the Staples Center.

  125. Alfa158 says:
    @Thea

    There’s no going back, the demographic numbers are too lopsided. The problem for our posterity is how to build something new and worthwhile again from the inevitable wreckage. Exactly what that will be and how to get there is not possible to predict. The task for the current generation is to re-build the consciousness of who we are and what we had so there will be a vision and will and solidarity to recreate wherever and however what the West once was.

  126. Anon[106] • Disclaimer says:

    Freedom of speech?

    You should be able to crticize anyone, short of encouraging others to assault them physically, right? Oh, forgot……its only OK to critique one demographic.

  127. TheJester says:

    I’m glad the British have finally found something threatening their existence besides BRITEX and its related diplomatic comedy. Do away with racist and sexist limericks and all will be well … I guess.

    Just got back from two weeks in Scotland. Aside from teachers teaching the virtues of transgenderism and LGBT to elementary school children, it seems that metrosexual fashion is the rage among young males in Scotland. Walks through St. Andrews University and it seemed that the male students universally congregate in gangs dressed in ultra-tight jeans and other sex-identifying accouterments. They looked like “twinks” … and they have the “look” down perfect. Kilts and tartans have evidently been replaced with more overt gender-fluid expressions of social identity and status.

    Look at the positive: Oscar Wilde would have found a safe haven in today’s Scotland.

    How does a society go from ruling 25% of humanity with the most advanced social system, science, and technology on the planet to today’s Britain … in only 70 years?

    This saddens me. I am American with an outstanding British classical university education. At its height, Britain was the pinnacle of human thought and accomplishment. Now, at it’s best, it is an outdoor museum. At its worst, it is a black comedy. How can a society go so quickly from such “heights” to “comedy”?

  128. Jim Given says:

    “the community cohesion officer” ?!?

    Is that something like the local Communist Party official?

    • Replies: @guest
  129. @Tono Bungay

    I was enjoying the poem until this –

    A hand in front of Adam’s fruit
    Proof does not provide

    That sort of shitty sentence structure sets my teeth on edge; it shows that the writer was was unable to alter the previous lines in a way that enabled a less-retarded structure for that bit.

    It would be pretty easy to rework those to retain the imagery but make the structure less loathsome… e.g.,

    Your great big hands and manly head
    aren’t female in the least
    That giant Adam’s apple
    is a threat to man and beast

    or

    Your great big hands and manly head
    aren’t ladylike at all
    Your Adam’s apple looks as if
    you ate a cricket ball

    Anyway…

  130. @Reg Cæsar

    I can remember the good’uns from my youth:

    A pretty girl from Aberystwyth
    Took some grain to the mill to get grist with
    The miller’s son Jack
    laid her flat on her back
    And united the organs they pissed with.

    and

    In the garden of Eden lay Adam
    Complacently stroking his madam
    and full was his mirth
    for he knew that on Earth
    there were only two balls… and he had ’em!

    And of course

    Little Jack Horner
    Sat in a corner
    Eating a Christmas pie
    He put in his thumb
    and pulled out a tractor
    and said “Fuck’s sake – I could’ve choked on that!”

  131. @bomag

    Well, we expect law & order to comport with what is good and fair

    Do you also expect a fairy to leave 50p under your pillow when you lose a tooth?

    There is a point at which breathlessly naïve expectations should be revised: if you are more than 6 years old, you ought to have abandoned any expectation for “law & order to comport with what is good and fair“.

    Any expectations-formation process that yields such a childish worldview, needs an error-correction mechanism so that it starts to align with real-world outcomes. (It would still be adaptive rather than rational – but it would do for a start).

    Otherwise, you’re not forming expectations – you’re just parrotting a quasi-religious liturgy that is jarringly at odds with the world as it is.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  132. anon[348] • Disclaimer says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    PC Gul in transgender sensitivity training bootcamp.

    [Diversity Facilitator Hartman:] If you folks leave my island, if you survive diversity training, you will be a weapon. You will be a minister of inclusion praying for hate speech . But until that day you are pukes. You are the lowest form of life on Earth. You are not even human fucking beings. You are nothing but unorganized grabastic pieces of amphibian shit! Because I am hard, you will not like me. But the more you hate me, the more you will learn. I am hard but I am fair. There is no racial bigotry here. I do not look down on crackers, rednecks, gomers or hillbillies. Here you are all equally worthless. And my orders are to weed out all non-hackers who do not pack the gear to serve in my beloved constabulary. Do you maggots understand that?

  133. res says:
    @James Speaks

    Seriously, how do you brighten colors?

    Not sure. I think I remembered that from an ad campaign. But it really does appear to be a thing.
    https://www.clorox.com/products/clorox-2-stain-remover-and-color-booster-liquid/original

    • Replies: @James Speaks
  134. @res

    Seriously, how do you brighten colors?

    Not sure. I think I remembered that from an ad campaign. But it really does appear to be a thing.

    My bad. I meant to type,

    Seriously, how do you brighten coloreds?

  135. BOAC says:

    [to be read in regional dialect]

    PC Gul from Commun’ty Cohes’n
    Speaks in lingo so breathless and brazen.
    We may think he’ obtu’se,
    But he’ been on a cou’se!
    Truly some kinda new age woke Asian.

    Your Humble & Obedient &etc.
    Been On A Course

  136. guest says:
    @Jim Given

    No, it’s the equivalent of Chief of Glues and Pastes here in the states.

  137. anon1 says:

    A Paki tells an Englishman in England what he can and cannot say.

    Somebody tell me again what they fought the Germans for?

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  138. @stillCARealist

    I wonder if posting lyrics to rap songs will get you a phone call from the police.

    No, just from RIAA and the US Copyright Office.

  139. @Kratoklastes

    In other words, never file a lawsuit.

  140. Matra says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I thought I addressed that in my comment. I guess you didn’t read it fully.

    Or maybe you are new and therefore not aware of the dissident American right wing factions – running the gamut from paleocons to neo-Nazis – who see every sign of decline in Britain (or any Allied country) as their chance – I used the word ‘tendentious’ in my post for a reason – to jump in and say “you see, you see, you should never have gone to war with Germany or this wouldn’t be happening”. It’s irrelevant and tiresome.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    , @Anonymous
    , @J.Ross
  141. Matra says:
    @Ibound1

    It got both. Not that I care too much about so-called freedom but it’s pretty ridiculous to argue that Britain would’ve had more of it in a Europe under complete German (or Soviet) hegemony than under the Americans.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @Anonymous
  142. Mr. Anon says:
    @Matra

    Several generations – about as many as those who died in the wars could’ve realistically worried about – had better lives, or at least had the opportunity for better lives, than pretty much every generation in British history.

    The children and grandchildren of those who fought have lived to see their country – their ancestral homeland for scores of generations going back – largely given over to people who hate it and them. In what sense is that a “better life”?

  143. Mr. Anon says:
    @Matra

    It’s irrelevant and tiresome.

    Just in the span of this thread, I have come to feel the same about you.

  144. Mr. Anon says:
    @anon1

    A Paki tells an Englishman in England what he can and cannot say.

    Somebody tell me again what they fought the Germans for?

    So that Matra could tell them they have nothing to complain about.

  145. eah says:
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    Globohomocorp hadn’t spent the last 30+years brainwashing the West

  146. @Achmed E. Newman

    Thanks, Achmed. Yes, it was a pun on cocker spaniel.

  147. @Matra

    Not that I care too much about so-called freedom

    Obv.

    Quisling.

  148. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Alden

    The officer didn’t do this on his own. He was told to do it

    And being a cop he did what he was told. They always do. And dumb right-wingers still worship cops.

  149. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Ed

    So where’s the UK’s Conservative party during this nonsense?

    Leading the social justice charge!

  150. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Joe, Averaged

    How is this different from China’s social scoring?

    Well it’s much crazier and much more socially destructive. China’s social scoring system was not designed to destroy Chinese society. Our western system is specifically designed to destroy western civilisation. China’s system is not based on concepts that are pure fantasy.

    So I’d say they’re quite different.

  151. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Matra

    But apparently no thread on any country that fought Germany, particularly Britain, is complete without tendentious ‘zingers’ and snark connecting every bad happening in 2019 to WW1&2.

    The end result of WW2 was American global hegemony. Which meant global liberal hegemony. I think it’s quite fair to connect WW2 to what’s happening today.

    What we see today was always the logical end point of liberalism. Take a look at a few Hollywood movies of the 40s and 50s – the antiracist hysteria, the feminism, the toleration of immorality, the hedonism, the atheism, all the wonderful things we associate with the world of 2019 were already there in embryo. Liberalism was already evil.

    The Brits started WW2 and thereby ushered in the new world order of liberalism.

  152. J.Ross says: • Website
    @DFH

    You and Feynman both are partly misunderstanding. This is how most of humanity works; this contempt for real intellect is the planetary norm. The “course” is a status thing, not a grounding in knowledge, the memorization isn’t relevant. As soon as I saw that word “course” I thought of all the completely meaningless powerpoint slideshows I had sat through in the military, or the “counter-terrorism course” subplot in the Wire (where a detective gets some good out of it by harvesting the three-ring binders for his kids to use at school). Consider the scene in Blow where the protagonist meets, not only the supplier cutting him out of his smuggling operation, but an example of real life Old World Nobility, arrogant, direct, talking to people about their “function.” I had some examples of East Asians doing this but they’ve been taken down. In a broader view there is a real unopposed war on thought and what Gul reminds us of is the desolate emptiness of pure credentialism.
    >he’s thought about it
    >translated it into a version that “makes more sense to him”
    Yeah, no, if you think about 2+2=5 to the point where you see an opportunity to apply the associative property, that means you haven’t thought about it.
    For them, knowledge means nothing. It is s particular flavor given to nonsense. Concepts not having to work in the real world means freedom.
    For us, who are chained to results, thought isn’t thought if it leads to Gullish products.

  153. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:
    @Matra

    Well, rhetoric has consequences. Having waged a huge war ostensibly to stamp out ‘racism’ among the Germans, the post-war Brits soon found they couldn’t be ‘racist’ themselves (e.g. by keeping out P.C. Gul’s parents) without being hypocrites.

  154. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:
    @Matra

    The Brits were hoping for a replay of WWI: Germany defeated, Russia in ruins, the Americans isolationist, and nobody willing or able to hold Britain to the lofty rhetoric it had preached during the war. Obviously that didn’t work out.

  155. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Matra

    Oh look out, this guy took a course.

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