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Bret Stephens, former editor of the Jerusalem Post, writes in his New York Times column:

President Jabberwock and the Jewish Right
Bret Stephens AUG. 18, 2017

… The president’s newfound (or long-hidden) Confederate sympathies are an extension of his other ethnic antipathies, just as the rally’s anti-Semitic chants of “Jews will not replace us” are an extension of the alt-right’s other hatreds.

Where in the world did they get that idea?

I mean, besides from reading Bret Stephen’s column in the New York Times back in June:

Only Mass Deportation Can Save America

Bret Stephens JUNE 16, 2017

In the matter of immigration, mark this conservative columnist down as strongly pro-deportation. The United States has too many people who don’t work hard, don’t believe in God, don’t contribute much to society and don’t appreciate the greatness of the American system.

They need to return whence they came.

I speak of Americans whose families have been in this country for a few generations. Complacent, entitled and often shockingly ignorant on basic points of American law and history, they are the stagnant pool in which our national prospects risk drowning.

On point after point, America’s nonimmigrants are failing our country. …

Because I’m the child of immigrants and grew up abroad, I have always thought of the United States as a country that belongs first to its newcomers …

We’re a country of immigrants — by and for them, too. Americans who don’t get it should get out.

 
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  1. Bubba says:

    Bret Stephens is a doppelgänger for Jared Kushner and both are smug, effete elitists with no connection to reality.

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    On point after point, America’s nonimmigrants are failing our country. …

    Because I’m the child of immigrants and grew up abroad, I have always thought of the United States as a country that belongs first to its newcomers …

    We’re a country of immigrants — by and for them, too. Americans who don’t get it should get out.
     

    Bret Stephens is such a walking alt-right meme (Arguing for his ethnic self-interests whilst trying to rationalise to take the moral high ground no matter how much he distorts reality in a way he can't ever hope to disguise) that I sometimes wonder if his parents original name wasn't Shekelberg.

    At least Kristol gets disavowed, are any prominent American Jews starting to get nervous at what Stephens writes?

    , @SMK
    "Don't work hard (or at all)," don't "contribute much" or anything to society but actively blight and destroy cities and neighborhoods, don't "appreciate" or loathe America and the people who created and sustain it and the "American system," "entitled," etc.? What group first comes to mind when one reads this article? But I'm sure he's not implying that blacks return to Africa.
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  2. One wonders if self-awareness can be found in the genes, and if different populations possess less of it than others.

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    • Replies: @FKA Max

    I was reading Sailer’s hotter-than-usual take on vile, malevolent, lying anti-Gentile Bret Stephens, when I was reminded of a commenter over there linking to potent Narrative-demolishing REEEsearch on the Ashkenazi personality profile.

    (FYI, Steve Sailer is a constitutionally mild-mannered and generous realtalker. It would take a lot of chutzpah to rouse his ire, but Nepotism, Inc manages the task.)
     
    - https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2017/06/19/ashkepathy/

    Just in case; the archived link: http://archive.is/yanxo

    I was very heartened by one of the commenters on that blog post:

    BrachaBenedicta

    Long-time lurker and bona-fide woke skypess here. Wow, CH, thank you for this very informative post! Can’t say I am enjoying the process of gradual awakening to my own tribe’s glaring faults, but facts are facts. It also explains so much of my family issues.
    [...]
    A very good example of “Ashkepathy”, in my opinion, is Eli Roth
    [...]
    Roth hosted and executive-produced an episode of Discovery Channel’s series “Curiosity”, called “How Evil Are You?” The episode explored the scientific aspects of evil, with Roth undergoing a brain scan and DNA sequencing at U.C. Davis with neuropsychiatrist Dr. James Fallon.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/trump-turns-the-corner-and-goes-on-the-attack-will-he-make-the-gop-follow/#comment-1930069

    Eli Roth is a [temporary] psychopath

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En10bS_JW6Y
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  3. Twinkie says:

    Because I’m the child of immigrants and grew up abroad, I have always thought of the United States as a country that belongs first to its newcomers

    I can only describe this sentiment as insanity. Nothing less (and possibly something worse).

    I don’t come from some sort of a “Third World hell-hole” (a term that appears popular with a certain crowd here). I did not come to the United States to escape oppression, war or poverty. My life was pretty good where I was born. Nonetheless, I am very GRATEFUL that this country and its people, by and large, have welcomed me and made me one of their own. And I have shared this sense of gratitude with my own children and have taught them to value the great gift and blessing they have inherited as native-born Americans. I suspect many older immigrants felt this way and became patriotic Americans, as I am and have been, and taught their children likewise.

    I just cannot fathom why people such as Brett Stephens are filled with such contempt and hatred (“too many people who don’t work hard…”) for the native-born Americans who welcomed his parents. This is not a feeling or an attitude that a normal human being ought to have. This is some kind of mass hysteria or insanity. Rather than treasuring this country as something to cherish and protect (not just for him for his children and their progeny), he and others like him seem to view it as something to which they are entitled to despoil and share with the rest of the world as some kind of loot.

    What is the source of this derangement? When did patriotism – the love of one’s country AND its people, one’s fellow citizens – become “hatred” of others, something which, apparently, is to be exorcised by this crazed notion that America ought to treat citizens of other countries better than its own?

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    • Agree: Opinionator
    • Replies: @yyrvjh
    No one really has a 100 percent satisfying answer to your questions. It seems that mass immigration into the First World is the preferred way to keep growing global GDP, without which the whole merry-go-round comes to a crashing halt; never mind the social costs and never mind "sustainability". But in the long run, we're all dead so what the heck.

    Here on iSteve, you can count on a Jew being paraded as the culprit whenever there is a chance to do so. But in Germany, non-Jewish chancellor Merkel talks exactly the same drivel and will be returned to office next month so that she can do four more years of damage. Of course, the even more paranoid antisemites will insist that the evil Hebrews secretly rule Germany, too, or that Merkel is half-Jewish or some other fevered fantasy. Must be comforting to know that all the world's evils can be traced to a single cause.
    , @Peter Akuleyev
    I just cannot fathom why people such as Brett Stephens are filled with such contempt and hatred (“too many people who don’t work hard…”) for the native-born Americans who welcomed his parents

    It may well be contempt for percieved weakness. Jews were so used to being scorned, pushed around and beaten in the Old Country that some of them have a hard time adjusting to a country that actually welcomes them and encourages them to take the best it has to offer. People who hate themselves can't stand people who love them, and Jewish culture has internalized a lot of self-hatred over the centuries.
    , @PaleMale
    I just cannot fathom why people such as Brett Stephens are filled with such contempt and hatred (“too many people who don’t work hard…”) for the native-born Americans who welcomed his parents.

    As a general rule one cannot assume that gratitude for a kind act will override another person's natural inclination to hate or despise you. It may for a moment, or an hour, or even a generation, but eventually the tendency towards contempt wins out. Just look at the terrorism stats: it seems that, overwhelmingly, it is the children of immigrants who are most inclined to commit terrorist acts, not the immigrants themselves. Their parents were grateful for having been let into the country. Their children, however, reverted towards open contempt for the host populations - a contempt they were probably taught by their parents but which their parents, for various reasons, never acted upon.
    , @Mr. Anon

    I can only describe this sentiment as insanity. Nothing less (and possibly something worse).
     
    It's called "chutzpah". That the concept is best described by a yiddish word is, I am sure, purely coincidence.
    , @MarcB.
    "Rather than treasuring this country as something to cherish and protect (not just for him for his children and their progeny), he and others like him seem to view it as something to which they are entitled to despoil and share with the rest of the world as some kind of loot".

    Those of us who are not the descendants of the trailblazers who settled North America owe deference to the values of the great men who came before us. Since there is nothing in this nations founding documents stating that this country is open to all who can somehow manage to arrive, we properly show respect for their sacrifice by adhering to immigration and border protection policies in line with their desires as best as can be determined. Anything else is a betrayal to those who allowed our families entry.

    I remember when people from the US who conducted themselves abroad as Brett Stephens is advocating behaving here were traditionally considered gauche, ugly Americans by lefty sophisticates (when in Rome...). He's beneath a traitor, because at least a traitor has a land and people to betray. Brett appears to have no tangible connection to anything or anybody.

    , @bomag

    I just cannot fathom why people such as Brett Stephens are filled with such contempt and hatred (“too many people who don’t work hard…”)
     
    I really cringed at that line from Stephens; ironic echoes of Arbeit Macht Frei.

    When Brett Stephens gets busy purging the current lazy residents to make way for alleged hard working newcomers, I wonder if he will use rail cars?
    , @Thea
    To paraphrase Jordan Peterson, the cause is Postmodernism and its underlying lack of gratefulness
    , @Moses

    I just cannot fathom why people such as Brett Stephens are filled with such contempt and hatred (“too many people who don’t work hard…”) for the native-born Americans who welcomed his parents.
     
    Because it's good for the Jews?
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  4. Something about this guy strikes me as disingenuous.

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    • Replies: @NickG

    Something about this guy strikes me as disingenuous.
     
    I get the impression that this is feature rather than a bug.
    , @Eagle Eye

    Something about this guy strikes me as disingenuous.
     
    Stephens has found paying patrons whom he serves faithfully.

    He is married to Corinna da Fonseca-Wollheim, a music critic who writes for The New York Times. ... He was previously married to Pamela Paul, the editor of The New York Times Book Review.
     
    Awkward ...
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  5. yyrvjh says:
    @Twinkie

    Because I’m the child of immigrants and grew up abroad, I have always thought of the United States as a country that belongs first to its newcomers
     
    I can only describe this sentiment as insanity. Nothing less (and possibly something worse).

    I don't come from some sort of a "Third World hell-hole" (a term that appears popular with a certain crowd here). I did not come to the United States to escape oppression, war or poverty. My life was pretty good where I was born. Nonetheless, I am very GRATEFUL that this country and its people, by and large, have welcomed me and made me one of their own. And I have shared this sense of gratitude with my own children and have taught them to value the great gift and blessing they have inherited as native-born Americans. I suspect many older immigrants felt this way and became patriotic Americans, as I am and have been, and taught their children likewise.

    I just cannot fathom why people such as Brett Stephens are filled with such contempt and hatred ("too many people who don’t work hard...") for the native-born Americans who welcomed his parents. This is not a feeling or an attitude that a normal human being ought to have. This is some kind of mass hysteria or insanity. Rather than treasuring this country as something to cherish and protect (not just for him for his children and their progeny), he and others like him seem to view it as something to which they are entitled to despoil and share with the rest of the world as some kind of loot.

    What is the source of this derangement? When did patriotism - the love of one's country AND its people, one's fellow citizens - become "hatred" of others, something which, apparently, is to be exorcised by this crazed notion that America ought to treat citizens of other countries better than its own?

    No one really has a 100 percent satisfying answer to your questions. It seems that mass immigration into the First World is the preferred way to keep growing global GDP, without which the whole merry-go-round comes to a crashing halt; never mind the social costs and never mind “sustainability”. But in the long run, we’re all dead so what the heck.

    Here on iSteve, you can count on a Jew being paraded as the culprit whenever there is a chance to do so. But in Germany, non-Jewish chancellor Merkel talks exactly the same drivel and will be returned to office next month so that she can do four more years of damage. Of course, the even more paranoid antisemites will insist that the evil Hebrews secretly rule Germany, too, or that Merkel is half-Jewish or some other fevered fantasy. Must be comforting to know that all the world’s evils can be traced to a single cause.

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    Not really on topic at all. Steve has lambasted Merkel from here to Sunday on numerous other threads. This thread is about Brett Stephens' dumb article.
    , @DFH

    Of course, the even more paranoid antisemites will insist that the evil Hebrews secretly rule Germany, too, or that Merkel is half-Jewish or some other fevered fantasy.
     
    The Jews are responsible for the creation of the anti-racist, anti-nationalist ideology (e.g. the Frankfurt school, Franz Boas, Montagu and Gould's race denialism) and propaganda distributed throughout the world from the USA (Hollywood is obviously controlled by Jews.
    The Jews have in particular targeted the Germans for guilt about the Holocaust, chich German children are forced to cover endlessly in school.

    The initial immigration to Germany (Turkish guest-workers) was forced upon it by the USA, against the wishes of the German government at the time.

    Germany's program hunting down dissenters on social media is run by a Jew.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anetta_Kahane

    The founder of Germany's major left-wing party is a Jew, who thinks it's a good thing that 'Nazis' aren't having any more children
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJUlf2-XSZw
    , @TTSSYF
    Who said anything about there being a single cause? If there is, it is ideology, not ethnicity.

    It isn't Steve's fault if the majority of Jewish pundits parrot essentially the same anti-nationalist, scornful attitude toward white, traditionalist conservatives (even the supposed conservatives ones like Stephens, Brooks, etc.) and draw attention to themselves with such commentary.
    , @Bleuteaux
    My favorite piece about the hurricane so far laments that all the new development around Houston has prevented the prairie's traditional role of absorbing billions of gallons of water. No word whatsoever on the millions of new immigrants that made that development possible.

    It's really an un-covered economic story just how much of our economy absolutely requires unlimited immigration, and would come crashing to a halt if it stopped.
    , @Mr. Anon

    Must be comforting to know that all the world’s evils can be traced to a single cause.
     
    No, nor does anyone here likely believe that. But are we supposed to not notice the brazen ethnic self-interest and hyprocrisy of people like Mr. Stephens when it proudly displays itself?
    , @ben tillman

    Here on iSteve, you can count on a Jew being paraded as the culprit whenever there is a chance to do so. But in Germany, non-Jewish chancellor Merkel talks exactly the same drivel and will be returned to office next month so that she can do four more years of damage.

     

    Some lead; others are induced to follow.
    , @Bill

    No one really has a 100 percent satisfying answer to your questions . . . Here on iSteve, you can count on a Jew being paraded as the culprit whenever there is a chance to do so.
     
    The thing to think about here is: how is it possible for yyrvjh to react to Bret Stephens's atrocious behavior by bitching about anti-semitism? Is yyrvjh's behavior any different from Bret Stephens's, or does it display the same fault?
    , @AnotherDad

    Here on iSteve, you can count on a Jew being paraded as the culprit whenever there is a chance to do so. But in Germany, non-Jewish chancellor Merkel talks exactly the same drivel and will be returned to office next month so that she can do four more years of damage. Of course, the even more paranoid antisemites will insist that the evil Hebrews secretly rule Germany, too, or that Merkel is half-Jewish or some other fevered fantasy. Must be comforting to know that all the world’s evils can be traced to a single cause.
     
    Merkel is an evil, destructive piece of work. She's also a walking advertisement for why nations historically never had a old biddy--much less a childless one--running the joint.

    However, Merkel exists in "the current year", a cultural and social environment where Jewish ideas and Jewish media have had tremendous influence over three generations in the post-war West. Merkel couldn't have done the damage she's done in the Germany of 1967, much less 1917. It's taken all the additional indoctrination of the last 50 to induce her to do this, to stick with it--because all the good people praise it--and for "Germans" to tolerate it.

    Merkel simply points out that the problem is indeed multi-causal. But that doesn't mean the "Jewish problem" isn't one of the causes.

    Four or five jump out at me:
    --> Jewish minoritarianism.
    The extreme effectiveness of Jewish anti-national, "diversity" and "multicultural" propaganda. Plus lots and lots of hostile and contemptuous verbal dissembling and bullying.

    --> Feminism, female "empowerment".
    The rising salience of anti-rational and emotional argument. Nurturing as a fine personal/familial but very bad public policy impulse. The feminization of men and knock-down of useful male protective impulses. Lots and lots of bitching, whining, emoting and lemming like devotion to approved (and insane) behavior/beliefs.

    --> The decline of Christianity.
    People have to believe ... something. The religion of progressivism. Lots of cheap virtue signaling.

    --> Christianity.
    Misplaced, over baked, "love thy neighbor"ism. Lots of cucking.

    --> Puritanism (in America).
    Somewhat a corollary to the above. But specifically the radical protestant "we're building heaven right here on earth" impulse we've seen from these folks from witch burning, through abolition to their Unitarian descendants SJWism. (Annoying people!)

    And, not really a causal agent like the above, but fundamental to "the crisis":

    --> The nature of white people.
    White gentiles have evolved toward a cooperative and trusting nature. This has allowed them to build fearsome, effective nation states and breakout with the scientific and industrial revolution to both dominate the world and to create the most pleasant and prosperous societies on earth. But it also makes us rubes, easy for less-trusting, less-cooperative, less-altruistic tribals to roll. What made us great ... also makes us weak. The classic setup of tragedy.

    We--white folks--need to become radically less trusting and cooperative ... with other people. Save our cooperation and trust only for folks who will return it fairly. Hard on the outside ... soft on the inside.

    And we need to acknowledge and address--correct--every one of the causes above. It's a big multi-causal problem, so it requires a big multi-point solution. There is no quick fix to the disaster upon us.
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  6. Stephens’ June 16 column is the one that led the Alt Rabbi to post, on the 18th:

    I strongly suspect that @BretStephensNYT was created in a lab by vicious antisemites to validate every awful antisemitic stereotype

    http://twitter.com/AltRabinowitz

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  7. Achilles says:

    Trump now a Confederate? Come to think of it, wasn’t there a chapter in Slaves of New York about how the Trump slaves would emerge from Trump Tower onto Fifth Avenue at sundown after their long and back-breaking day of work in the Trump fields to gather round and sing folk songs and hymns?

    But it does seem like just last week he was Trump the Terrible, Czar of all the Russias.

    And before that, Fuehrer Adolf Trump.

    And before that, the neocons were describing him as “Caesarist.” Probably Titus, conqueror of the Jews, they had in mind.

    What’s next? Did the Chinese ever cross the Jews? If so, perhaps he will be Emperor Trump Manchu next week.

    Surely there must already be articles somewhere in the neurotic Jewish media portraying Trump as Haman.

    One thing about Bret Stephens, he does not much try to disguise his extremely strong view that American policy and power should be applied to advance Jewish group interests to the exclusion of any other interest.

    At times he will offer a contention that one or the other of mass importation of cheap third world labor or off-shoring the US industrial base or applying the US military to solve the problems of Israel is in the great national interest of the American people, but not with the energy of a piece like that here.

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    "Surely there must already be articles somewhere in the neurotic Jewish media portraying Trump as Haman."

    Been there done that

    http://forward.com/opinion/336149/trump-is-not-hitler-and-hes-not-haman-hes-ahasuerus/

    http://www.figtreerevolution.com/blog-1/2017/1/11/his-name-is-haman


    You try to be cynical but you can't keep up with reality as the saying goes.
    , @Ragno

    What’s next? Did the Chinese ever cross the Jews? If so, perhaps he will be Emperor Trump Manchu next week.
     
    Asians in general are a Rubik's cube that the Tribe , thus far, cannot crack. Oh, I'm sorry: I meant "solve".

    And it's one of the few balms for my soul as I watch my nation and my world devolve into a global dumpster-fire that the Tribal strategy of a little song, a little dance, a little seltza down yer pants will never be given the opportunity to morph into icy triumphalist please us or die, yellow goyim editorials once they've oozed their way through the next set of doors marked KEEP OUT; not when tried out upon the inscrutable Orientals, who are genetically resistant to Levantine swindling and trickeration. Nor will there be any further GI Joes liberating them from the next round of death camps.

    Y'know? - it's almost comforting, that prospect.

    , @Rosamond Vincy
    Actually, I lived in NYC around that time, and Trump slaves were a LOT happier than Leona Helmsley slaves. Holy moly, the horror stories people had about working for her!
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  8. Hey, it’s the New York Times, people! What did you expect? Sanity? We are talking about a publication that thinks Trump dropped the ball when he didn’t help start Nero’s Rome on its way to cinders!

    Who knew Nero was a charter member of ANTIFA?!

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  9. G Pinfold says:
    @yyrvjh
    No one really has a 100 percent satisfying answer to your questions. It seems that mass immigration into the First World is the preferred way to keep growing global GDP, without which the whole merry-go-round comes to a crashing halt; never mind the social costs and never mind "sustainability". But in the long run, we're all dead so what the heck.

    Here on iSteve, you can count on a Jew being paraded as the culprit whenever there is a chance to do so. But in Germany, non-Jewish chancellor Merkel talks exactly the same drivel and will be returned to office next month so that she can do four more years of damage. Of course, the even more paranoid antisemites will insist that the evil Hebrews secretly rule Germany, too, or that Merkel is half-Jewish or some other fevered fantasy. Must be comforting to know that all the world's evils can be traced to a single cause.

    Not really on topic at all. Steve has lambasted Merkel from here to Sunday on numerous other threads. This thread is about Brett Stephens’ dumb article.

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  10. Sid says:

    Why do people think it’s such an effective insult to tell white Americans they HAVE TO GO BACK… to Europe?

    How many Americans HAVEN’T fantasized about living Europe? A couple of hillbillies?

    Really, I think one reason why white liberals love talking about how whites stole land from the Indians is that it implies they have to return to Europe. And wouldn’t that be awesome?

    If we agreed to extreme nativism where everyone had to go back to where their ancestors lived before 1500, and we restored North America to the indigenous peoples, white liberals would be the biggest winners.

    Heck, I’m an American patriot, but I’d love to have to live in Ireland or Sweden. If the Muslim and African “refugees” were forced to go back where they came from so I could move in, I’d have few complaints.

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    North America is a big place with a lot to offer. There is a reason the US has been a superpower since ww1 or so and the monopower since 1989 although it is more questionable now. I wouldn't give it up without a fight.
    , @dearieme
    "I’d love to have to live in Ireland or Sweden": good God! Choice bits of France or Italy or Britain or Germany, Austria, or Switzerland, yes. Or, for those who know more about such places, perhaps Slovenia, Spain, Portugal. Luxembourg is attractive. Bruges, Amsterdam, Prague ......

    But Sweden? Ireland? Golly.
    , @Stephen Paul Foster
    Great point. I lived recently for a short time in Silver Spring MD. Twenty or thirty years ago it was a nice American suburb of DC. Its demography now resembles a nightmarish hybrid of Tijuana and Addis Ababa. Give me Dublin or Edinburgh circa 1950 and I'll go in a flash.
    , @Chris Mallory
    My paternal ancestor knocked the dirt of Europe off his feet nearly 360 years ago. I am not European, I am American. No way in hell would I live in any European nation.
    , @DerSohndesAllvaters
    Europe is great. I'm in East Germany between Leipzig and Dresden.
    , @William Badwhite
    "If we agreed to extreme nativism where everyone had to go back to where their ancestors lived before 1500"

    Well, 1500 is pretty far back, but my earliest (traceable) ancestor to come here arrived in the 1660's. As such I consider myself a Native American and have no interest in living in a foreign land (Europe).

    Re Stephens: you know you're pretty far gone when even the WSJ can't stomach you any further.
    , @Tacitus
    Europe is a fantastic place to visit but do you really want to live there? Do you want to sing someone else's folk songs? Do you want your children to sing someone else's folk songs? If your family has strong links to those lands it may be a better fit. Otherwise, Sweden will do your head in. The English speaking New World was a step up. The best country to go back to is old America. You should try to get there.

    Don't give up on America. There's no place like home(repeat).

    , @boogerbently
    Realistically, we'd ALL have to move back to Africa, right?
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  11. DFH says:
    @yyrvjh
    No one really has a 100 percent satisfying answer to your questions. It seems that mass immigration into the First World is the preferred way to keep growing global GDP, without which the whole merry-go-round comes to a crashing halt; never mind the social costs and never mind "sustainability". But in the long run, we're all dead so what the heck.

    Here on iSteve, you can count on a Jew being paraded as the culprit whenever there is a chance to do so. But in Germany, non-Jewish chancellor Merkel talks exactly the same drivel and will be returned to office next month so that she can do four more years of damage. Of course, the even more paranoid antisemites will insist that the evil Hebrews secretly rule Germany, too, or that Merkel is half-Jewish or some other fevered fantasy. Must be comforting to know that all the world's evils can be traced to a single cause.

    Of course, the even more paranoid antisemites will insist that the evil Hebrews secretly rule Germany, too, or that Merkel is half-Jewish or some other fevered fantasy.

    The Jews are responsible for the creation of the anti-racist, anti-nationalist ideology (e.g. the Frankfurt school, Franz Boas, Montagu and Gould’s race denialism) and propaganda distributed throughout the world from the USA (Hollywood is obviously controlled by Jews.
    The Jews have in particular targeted the Germans for guilt about the Holocaust, chich German children are forced to cover endlessly in school.

    The initial immigration to Germany (Turkish guest-workers) was forced upon it by the USA, against the wishes of the German government at the time.

    Germany’s program hunting down dissenters on social media is run by a Jew.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anetta_Kahane

    The founder of Germany’s major left-wing party is a Jew, who thinks it’s a good thing that ‘Nazis’ aren’t having any more children

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    Jews are also responsible for Breitbart and the Drudge Report. Perhaps what we require is a more discerning immigration system.
    , @Gaslighting Hotep
    Jews are only 2% of USA population. How many were left in Germany after the war? If such a vanishingly tiny population can dominate and control an entire society, what does that say about said society's fitness for self determination?
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  12. I published commentary on Stephens’ deportation proposal of White Americans here: https://nationalvanguard.org/2017/07/jew-columnist-stabs-america-in-the-back-and-twists-the-knife/

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  13. FKA Max says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    One wonders if self-awareness can be found in the genes, and if different populations possess less of it than others.

    I was reading Sailer’s hotter-than-usual take on vile, malevolent, lying anti-Gentile Bret Stephens, when I was reminded of a commenter over there linking to potent Narrative-demolishing REEEsearch on the Ashkenazi personality profile.

    (FYI, Steve Sailer is a constitutionally mild-mannered and generous realtalker. It would take a lot of chutzpah to rouse his ire, but Nepotism, Inc manages the task.)

    https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2017/06/19/ashkepathy/

    Just in case; the archived link: http://archive.is/yanxo

    I was very heartened by one of the commenters on that blog post:

    BrachaBenedicta

    Long-time lurker and bona-fide woke skypess here. Wow, CH, thank you for this very informative post! Can’t say I am enjoying the process of gradual awakening to my own tribe’s glaring faults, but facts are facts. It also explains so much of my family issues.
    [...]
    A very good example of “Ashkepathy”, in my opinion, is Eli Roth
    [...]
    Roth hosted and executive-produced an episode of Discovery Channel’s series “Curiosity”, called “How Evil Are You?” The episode explored the scientific aspects of evil, with Roth undergoing a brain scan and DNA sequencing at U.C. Davis with neuropsychiatrist Dr. James Fallon.

    http://www.unz.com/article/trump-turns-the-corner-and-goes-on-the-attack-will-he-make-the-gop-follow/#comment-1930069

    Eli Roth is a [temporary] psychopath

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  14. OT. Two academics gone stupid in Bloomberg.

    1. Noah Feldman invents a theory of Unpardonable Pardons as he continues to search for Trump impeachment pretexts. The schtick this time is a No True President sort of distinction between presidential pardons that are legal and those that are technically kosher but trigger an impeachable pseudo-offense, “contempt for the Constitution”.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-08-23/arpaio-pardon-would-show-contempt-for-constitution

    2. Cathy O’Neil, previously discussed here under “math is racist”, now says that psychometry is sexist, because men. Fire the Google memo writer and double down on diversity programming. Along the way she displays an impressively total failure, even by her standards, to understand any of the racist, sexist, math-ist mathematics on which she presents herself as an authority. It is a rare performance, and tickets are free.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-08-16/google-is-right-to-focus-on-gender-bias

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    I suppose this makes it easier to know where it to invest one' money.
    , @Barnard
    Like a blind chicken, Megan McArdle occasionally finds a kernal of corn in her Bloomberg columns. It is a very rare occasion when anyone else there writes a cold worth reading.
    , @Immigrant from former USSR
    And who exactly is "math racist" ? Would this label cover my orientation ?
    , @The King is a Fink
    From the second article:

    So why IQ? It’s just a test built by man to emphasize what man thinks is important....
     
    It was made by a man so it must be biased. QED. I realise that no test is perfect and all have limitations but in my experience the only people who are dismissive of IQ tests are stupid people. Bit like a fat kid refusing to race in the school sportsday because they know they are going to come last.

    First, you need to know how to decide whose code is good, which is known to be biased against women.
     
    Yes, measuring the execution speed of a code snippet or algorithm is inherently biased towards women, because men built the computer. See above. QED.
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  15. Altai says:
    @Bubba
    Bret Stephens is a doppelgänger for Jared Kushner and both are smug, effete elitists with no connection to reality.

    On point after point, America’s nonimmigrants are failing our country. …

    Because I’m the child of immigrants and grew up abroad, I have always thought of the United States as a country that belongs first to its newcomers …

    We’re a country of immigrants — by and for them, too. Americans who don’t get it should get out.

    Bret Stephens is such a walking alt-right meme (Arguing for his ethnic self-interests whilst trying to rationalise to take the moral high ground no matter how much he distorts reality in a way he can’t ever hope to disguise) that I sometimes wonder if his parents original name wasn’t Shekelberg.

    At least Kristol gets disavowed, are any prominent American Jews starting to get nervous at what Stephens writes?

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    How has Kristol been "disavowed"?
    , @Bubba
    Sorry Altai!!! I meant to hit "Agree" and I can't change it! Yes, you are definitely correct! My apologies.
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  16. JohnnyD says:

    Yea, Trump, who has spent most of his life living in Manhattan, is obviously a Neo-Confederate!

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  17. @Twinkie

    Because I’m the child of immigrants and grew up abroad, I have always thought of the United States as a country that belongs first to its newcomers
     
    I can only describe this sentiment as insanity. Nothing less (and possibly something worse).

    I don't come from some sort of a "Third World hell-hole" (a term that appears popular with a certain crowd here). I did not come to the United States to escape oppression, war or poverty. My life was pretty good where I was born. Nonetheless, I am very GRATEFUL that this country and its people, by and large, have welcomed me and made me one of their own. And I have shared this sense of gratitude with my own children and have taught them to value the great gift and blessing they have inherited as native-born Americans. I suspect many older immigrants felt this way and became patriotic Americans, as I am and have been, and taught their children likewise.

    I just cannot fathom why people such as Brett Stephens are filled with such contempt and hatred ("too many people who don’t work hard...") for the native-born Americans who welcomed his parents. This is not a feeling or an attitude that a normal human being ought to have. This is some kind of mass hysteria or insanity. Rather than treasuring this country as something to cherish and protect (not just for him for his children and their progeny), he and others like him seem to view it as something to which they are entitled to despoil and share with the rest of the world as some kind of loot.

    What is the source of this derangement? When did patriotism - the love of one's country AND its people, one's fellow citizens - become "hatred" of others, something which, apparently, is to be exorcised by this crazed notion that America ought to treat citizens of other countries better than its own?

    I just cannot fathom why people such as Brett Stephens are filled with such contempt and hatred (“too many people who don’t work hard…”) for the native-born Americans who welcomed his parents

    It may well be contempt for percieved weakness. Jews were so used to being scorned, pushed around and beaten in the Old Country that some of them have a hard time adjusting to a country that actually welcomes them and encourages them to take the best it has to offer. People who hate themselves can’t stand people who love them, and Jewish culture has internalized a lot of self-hatred over the centuries.

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    People who hate themselves can’t stand people who love them, and Jewish culture has internalized a lot of self-hatred over the centuries.
     
    Self-hating Jews are a regular trope of Jewish culture. Sort of like introspective, educated black physicists are a regular trope of Jewish culture.
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  18. Anonym says:
    @Sid
    Why do people think it's such an effective insult to tell white Americans they HAVE TO GO BACK... to Europe?

    How many Americans HAVEN'T fantasized about living Europe? A couple of hillbillies?

    Really, I think one reason why white liberals love talking about how whites stole land from the Indians is that it implies they have to return to Europe. And wouldn't that be awesome?

    If we agreed to extreme nativism where everyone had to go back to where their ancestors lived before 1500, and we restored North America to the indigenous peoples, white liberals would be the biggest winners.

    Heck, I'm an American patriot, but I'd love to have to live in Ireland or Sweden. If the Muslim and African "refugees" were forced to go back where they came from so I could move in, I'd have few complaints.

    North America is a big place with a lot to offer. There is a reason the US has been a superpower since ww1 or so and the monopower since 1989 although it is more questionable now. I wouldn’t give it up without a fight.

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    You're giving it up at this very moment without a fight. That's the thing about representative democracy with universal, birthright citizenship suffrage. You don't need to invade to change it, just come over illegally and have children. They'll vote their homeland and culture here.
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  19. dearieme says:
    @Sid
    Why do people think it's such an effective insult to tell white Americans they HAVE TO GO BACK... to Europe?

    How many Americans HAVEN'T fantasized about living Europe? A couple of hillbillies?

    Really, I think one reason why white liberals love talking about how whites stole land from the Indians is that it implies they have to return to Europe. And wouldn't that be awesome?

    If we agreed to extreme nativism where everyone had to go back to where their ancestors lived before 1500, and we restored North America to the indigenous peoples, white liberals would be the biggest winners.

    Heck, I'm an American patriot, but I'd love to have to live in Ireland or Sweden. If the Muslim and African "refugees" were forced to go back where they came from so I could move in, I'd have few complaints.

    “I’d love to have to live in Ireland or Sweden”: good God! Choice bits of France or Italy or Britain or Germany, Austria, or Switzerland, yes. Or, for those who know more about such places, perhaps Slovenia, Spain, Portugal. Luxembourg is attractive. Bruges, Amsterdam, Prague ……

    But Sweden? Ireland? Golly.

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    You didn't infer that those two places were where his ancestors happen to have lived?
    , @The King is a Fink
    Parts of Ireland are truly spectacular and the people overall are generally a nice sort. Sure, the weather is mostly terrible but when the sun comes out it like God's Own Country - an expression originally used to describe the Wicklow mountains, which are a short drive from my home. Kerry, Cork, Clare, Galway... the whole Atlantic coastline is something to see.

    Much of the liberal stupidity you see in the UK and France has not yet taken root to the same extent and the people are still mostly ethnic Irish. If there is any hope for white people in Western Europe it is Ireland.
    , @Peter Akuleyev
    Sweden is the country where a lot of rural Americans would probably be happiest. Not crowded, lots of wilderness, and hunting is quite popular. But Finland might be preferable due to its laxer gun laws. I think your average non-hipster white American would tire very quickly of life in a socially regimented, crowded country like Slovenia or Luxemburg. And the UK, Germany or Switzerland aren't that much fun if you are used to Wyoming or even rural Maine.
    , @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    I lived in Dublin as a kid and I can tell you it was a fine place to live in spite of the grinding poverty. If you fit in by the looks of you and you like generally warm (not like Med style tactile warmness) and cheerful people, a rhythm to daily life, a thoroughly Catholic culture, etc. it was the place for you.

    Dublin is now fairly pozzed though, and the Homosexual "Marriage" nonsense does not bode well for the future of that tiny island nation.
    , @AnotherDad

    But Sweden? Ireland? Golly.
     
    Outside of the obvious--those are probably places Sid knows he has ancestors from--I was in Sweden a couple years back. (No known Swedish ancestors, just family touring.) Pretty nice countryside. Driving in from the airport north of Stockholm reminded me of parts around Seattle or Vancouver B.C.--more spruce instead of our Doug fir and red cedar. Drove--main highway--down to Copenhagen. Pretty country--woods, lakes, farms, fields, towns. Would be pretty much a whitetopia if not for the cancer allowed to grow in the cities.

    May not be your cup of tea, but i'm sure it feels pretty darn great to a lot of Swedes. I hope "true Swedes" will eventually stand and fight for it.
    , @Hibernian
    To each his or her own. From what I've heard, most Swedes would return the compliment. Not to mention us Irish.
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  20. Anon 2 says:

    OT Austria’s (former) conservative presidential candidate
    Hofer wants Austria to join the Visegrad group which currently
    comprises Poland, Czechia, Slovakia, and Hungary. This would
    make great sense: all five countries constitute the core of Central
    Europe – predominantly Catholic countries that have had centuries
    of history together, and as a result developed similar cultures.
    None of them have a colonialist past and none participated in the
    transatlantic slave trade – hence they feel no white guilt about the
    past. All of them are opposed to accepting Muslim migrants that
    Brussels (and Frau Merkel) are trying to ram down their throats.

    With a combined population of 75 million the Visegrad 5 would
    be an effective counterweight to Germany’s (population: 80 million)
    autocratic shenanigans. In the economic sphere, Poland’s economy
    is 3 times the size of Austria’s and 4 times the size of Hungary’s
    economy

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    I hear the Habsburgs are available.

    Churchill thought the Austro-Hungarian Empire made a lot of sense in allowing smaller countries to join together to be able to stand up to their larger neighbors.
    , @TelfoedJohn
    If there is any hope, it lies in the Poles.
    , @Altai
    They never told you what happened to the Austro-Hungarian Empire, did they?

    They told me enough, they told me your backwards ethnocentric eastern ways killed it!

    No, you are Central European!

    No! That's impossible, we were in NATO during the cold war, our per capita GDP clusters with the rest of Western Europe! Diversity is our strength!

    Prague is further west than Vienna! Germany has as many Protestants as Catholics! Hitler was Austrian!

    NOOOOOOOOOO!

    , @Wilkey
    "With a combined population of 75 million the Visegrad 5 would be an effective counterweight to Germany’s."

    It seems to me that belonging to the EU may, on balance, be a bad deal for Central & Eastern Europe. They have boatloads of native talent but none of them is individually big enough to take on the big dogs like Germany or the UK. Those countries are already so rich and well-established that they will inevitably suck a huge share of the talent away from the eastern EU countries, leaving them eternally in the dust. A trading block that excludes the West would give them a way to keep their talent at home while giving them a large enough market and labor pool to help their native industries grow larger.

    The only downside to making Austria a part of that block is that it would, given its wealth, almost inevitably become the dominant player and the other countries would still be left behind.
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  21. TTSSYF says:
    @yyrvjh
    No one really has a 100 percent satisfying answer to your questions. It seems that mass immigration into the First World is the preferred way to keep growing global GDP, without which the whole merry-go-round comes to a crashing halt; never mind the social costs and never mind "sustainability". But in the long run, we're all dead so what the heck.

    Here on iSteve, you can count on a Jew being paraded as the culprit whenever there is a chance to do so. But in Germany, non-Jewish chancellor Merkel talks exactly the same drivel and will be returned to office next month so that she can do four more years of damage. Of course, the even more paranoid antisemites will insist that the evil Hebrews secretly rule Germany, too, or that Merkel is half-Jewish or some other fevered fantasy. Must be comforting to know that all the world's evils can be traced to a single cause.

    Who said anything about there being a single cause? If there is, it is ideology, not ethnicity.

    It isn’t Steve’s fault if the majority of Jewish pundits parrot essentially the same anti-nationalist, scornful attitude toward white, traditionalist conservatives (even the supposed conservatives ones like Stephens, Brooks, etc.) and draw attention to themselves with such commentary.

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    If there is, it is ideology, not ethnicity.
     
    And where does that ideology come from? And which institutions propagate it? And who controls those institutions?

    Beats me.
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  22. Yak-15 says:
    @academic gossip
    OT. Two academics gone stupid in Bloomberg.

    1. Noah Feldman invents a theory of Unpardonable Pardons as he continues to search for Trump impeachment pretexts. The schtick this time is a No True President sort of distinction between presidential pardons that are legal and those that are technically kosher but trigger an impeachable pseudo-offense, "contempt for the Constitution".

    http://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-08-23/arpaio-pardon-would-show-contempt-for-constitution

    2. Cathy O'Neil, previously discussed here under "math is racist", now says that psychometry is sexist, because men. Fire the Google memo writer and double down on diversity programming. Along the way she displays an impressively total failure, even by her standards, to understand any of the racist, sexist, math-ist mathematics on which she presents herself as an authority. It is a rare performance, and tickets are free.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-08-16/google-is-right-to-focus-on-gender-bias

    I suppose this makes it easier to know where it to invest one’ money.

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  23. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @dearieme
    "I’d love to have to live in Ireland or Sweden": good God! Choice bits of France or Italy or Britain or Germany, Austria, or Switzerland, yes. Or, for those who know more about such places, perhaps Slovenia, Spain, Portugal. Luxembourg is attractive. Bruges, Amsterdam, Prague ......

    But Sweden? Ireland? Golly.

    You didn’t infer that those two places were where his ancestors happen to have lived?

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  24. Barnard says:
    @academic gossip
    OT. Two academics gone stupid in Bloomberg.

    1. Noah Feldman invents a theory of Unpardonable Pardons as he continues to search for Trump impeachment pretexts. The schtick this time is a No True President sort of distinction between presidential pardons that are legal and those that are technically kosher but trigger an impeachable pseudo-offense, "contempt for the Constitution".

    http://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-08-23/arpaio-pardon-would-show-contempt-for-constitution

    2. Cathy O'Neil, previously discussed here under "math is racist", now says that psychometry is sexist, because men. Fire the Google memo writer and double down on diversity programming. Along the way she displays an impressively total failure, even by her standards, to understand any of the racist, sexist, math-ist mathematics on which she presents herself as an authority. It is a rare performance, and tickets are free.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-08-16/google-is-right-to-focus-on-gender-bias

    Like a blind chicken, Megan McArdle occasionally finds a kernal of corn in her Bloomberg columns. It is a very rare occasion when anyone else there writes a cold worth reading.

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  25. Bleuteaux says:
    @yyrvjh
    No one really has a 100 percent satisfying answer to your questions. It seems that mass immigration into the First World is the preferred way to keep growing global GDP, without which the whole merry-go-round comes to a crashing halt; never mind the social costs and never mind "sustainability". But in the long run, we're all dead so what the heck.

    Here on iSteve, you can count on a Jew being paraded as the culprit whenever there is a chance to do so. But in Germany, non-Jewish chancellor Merkel talks exactly the same drivel and will be returned to office next month so that she can do four more years of damage. Of course, the even more paranoid antisemites will insist that the evil Hebrews secretly rule Germany, too, or that Merkel is half-Jewish or some other fevered fantasy. Must be comforting to know that all the world's evils can be traced to a single cause.

    My favorite piece about the hurricane so far laments that all the new development around Houston has prevented the prairie’s traditional role of absorbing billions of gallons of water. No word whatsoever on the millions of new immigrants that made that development possible.

    It’s really an un-covered economic story just how much of our economy absolutely requires unlimited immigration, and would come crashing to a halt if it stopped.

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    My favorite piece about the hurricane so far laments that all the new development around Houston has prevented the prairie’s traditional role of absorbing billions of gallons of water.

    Can you provide a citation?

    It’s really an un-covered economic story just how much of our economy absolutely requires unlimited immigration, and would come crashing to a halt if it stopped.

    Is this assertion related to the earlier ones? What parts of our economy require unlimited immigration?
    , @Marat
    What will the excuse be if the dollar/ economy fails?
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  26. Yak-15 says:
    @Anonym
    North America is a big place with a lot to offer. There is a reason the US has been a superpower since ww1 or so and the monopower since 1989 although it is more questionable now. I wouldn't give it up without a fight.

    You’re giving it up at this very moment without a fight. That’s the thing about representative democracy with universal, birthright citizenship suffrage. You don’t need to invade to change it, just come over illegally and have children. They’ll vote their homeland and culture here.

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  27. @academic gossip
    OT. Two academics gone stupid in Bloomberg.

    1. Noah Feldman invents a theory of Unpardonable Pardons as he continues to search for Trump impeachment pretexts. The schtick this time is a No True President sort of distinction between presidential pardons that are legal and those that are technically kosher but trigger an impeachable pseudo-offense, "contempt for the Constitution".

    http://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-08-23/arpaio-pardon-would-show-contempt-for-constitution

    2. Cathy O'Neil, previously discussed here under "math is racist", now says that psychometry is sexist, because men. Fire the Google memo writer and double down on diversity programming. Along the way she displays an impressively total failure, even by her standards, to understand any of the racist, sexist, math-ist mathematics on which she presents herself as an authority. It is a rare performance, and tickets are free.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-08-16/google-is-right-to-focus-on-gender-bias

    And who exactly is “math racist” ? Would this label cover my orientation ?

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  28. @Sid
    Why do people think it's such an effective insult to tell white Americans they HAVE TO GO BACK... to Europe?

    How many Americans HAVEN'T fantasized about living Europe? A couple of hillbillies?

    Really, I think one reason why white liberals love talking about how whites stole land from the Indians is that it implies they have to return to Europe. And wouldn't that be awesome?

    If we agreed to extreme nativism where everyone had to go back to where their ancestors lived before 1500, and we restored North America to the indigenous peoples, white liberals would be the biggest winners.

    Heck, I'm an American patriot, but I'd love to have to live in Ireland or Sweden. If the Muslim and African "refugees" were forced to go back where they came from so I could move in, I'd have few complaints.

    Great point. I lived recently for a short time in Silver Spring MD. Twenty or thirty years ago it was a nice American suburb of DC. Its demography now resembles a nightmarish hybrid of Tijuana and Addis Ababa. Give me Dublin or Edinburgh circa 1950 and I’ll go in a flash.

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    Dublin in 1995 was still overwhemingly Irish, and I believe Edinburgh remains almost totally Scottish to this day.
    , @biz
    Silver Spring is not a good example to use if you want to say that immigration ruins things. It is a highly gentrified, high quality of life, inner ring suburb with a million restaurants and amenities in a beautifully renovated downtown with stratospheric and still skyrocketing property values. It also has access to one of the top few public high schools in the whole country.

    If you gave 100 middle class Americans one day in Silver Spring and then asked if they want to live there 80 would say yes.

    Have you looked at Langley Park?
    , @athEIst
    Ferguson was a nice American suburb too, til about 1990.
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  29. In his June article Stephens seems to be saying that Blacks should go back to Africa. BLM should get on his case.

    “In the matter of immigration, mark this conservative columnist down as strongly pro-deportation. The United States has too many people who don’t work hard, don’t believe in God, don’t contribute much to society and don’t appreciate the greatness of the American system.

    They need to return whence they came.”

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    All Stephens' stuff about natives having a higher crime rate than immigrants is about how African-Americans should be deported.
    , @Chris Mallory

    The United States has too many people who don’t work hard, don’t believe in God, don’t contribute much to society and don’t appreciate the greatness of the American system.
     
    Three out of those four things he listed seem to overwhelmingly apply to his Tribe.
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  30. Flip says:
    @Anon 2
    OT Austria's (former) conservative presidential candidate
    Hofer wants Austria to join the Visegrad group which currently
    comprises Poland, Czechia, Slovakia, and Hungary. This would
    make great sense: all five countries constitute the core of Central
    Europe - predominantly Catholic countries that have had centuries
    of history together, and as a result developed similar cultures.
    None of them have a colonialist past and none participated in the
    transatlantic slave trade - hence they feel no white guilt about the
    past. All of them are opposed to accepting Muslim migrants that
    Brussels (and Frau Merkel) are trying to ram down their throats.

    With a combined population of 75 million the Visegrad 5 would
    be an effective counterweight to Germany's (population: 80 million)
    autocratic shenanigans. In the economic sphere, Poland's economy
    is 3 times the size of Austria's and 4 times the size of Hungary's
    economy

    I hear the Habsburgs are available.

    Churchill thought the Austro-Hungarian Empire made a lot of sense in allowing smaller countries to join together to be able to stand up to their larger neighbors.

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    Austria with only 10 million people is too small
    to dominate the possible Visegrad 5. Poland is
    by far the largest country in the group. There
    are people in Poland who are advocating the return
    of monarchy, and the Polish aristocracy that has been
    scattered around the world by WW I and WW II, is slowly
    returning and restoring their castles and palaces.

    But seriously, empires are so 19th century. Nobody wants
    to dominate anybody else within the Visegrad Group but
    having a strong entity within Central Europe that's able
    to stand up to the self-serving machinations by Germany
    and Russia makes good geopolitical sense.
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  31. NickG says:
    @Chrisnonymous
    Something about this guy strikes me as disingenuous.

    Something about this guy strikes me as disingenuous.

    I get the impression that this is feature rather than a bug.

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  32. @Robert Hume
    In his June article Stephens seems to be saying that Blacks should go back to Africa. BLM should get on his case.

    "In the matter of immigration, mark this conservative columnist down as strongly pro-deportation. The United States has too many people who don’t work hard, don’t believe in God, don’t contribute much to society and don’t appreciate the greatness of the American system.

    They need to return whence they came."

    All Stephens’ stuff about natives having a higher crime rate than immigrants is about how African-Americans should be deported.

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    DISAGGREGATE the Blacks out of crime statistics and native-born Whitey don't look so bad. DISAGGREGATE Black school test scores out of the White scores and Whitey don't look so stupid.

    Hillary Clinton demographically disaggregated herself by moving to a mostly White town called Chappaqua, New York. Hillary Clinton does not want to live around Blacks.

    Arizona Senator Jeff Flake's wife said she was glad to live in a gated community after Flake started to receive messages of disapproval from voters who do not like how Flake pushes mass immigration and how Flake attacks President Trump. Flake disaggregated himself from illegal alien invaders by living in a gated community. Arizona Senator Jeff Flake is a disgusting hypocrite.

    Rich people disaggregate themselves from Blacks and illegal aliens. Regular Whites have to start calling these rich people out on their hypocrisy.
    , @Rod1963
    I don't think so.

    I see Juan Williams and other liberals on Fox trot out that dog when the topic of illegal immigration is brought up. They always state that the illegals are more law abiding that the natives. And they don't mean blacks but whites.

    They really do hate us and don't hesitate to demonize whitey every chance they get.
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  33. Why can you not see that Brad is putting you on?

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    The first part is facetious but the end sounds awfully sincere:


    Because I’m the child of immigrants and grew up abroad, I have always thought of the United States as a country that belongs first to its newcomers …

    We’re a country of immigrants — by and for them, too. Americans who don’t get it should get out.
     
    , @yyrvjh

    Why can you not see that Brad is putting you on?
     
    Well, you're right but you're also wrong. Steve and his commenters conveniently glide over the fact, which you noticed, that Stephens intended his piece as satire, in the vein of A Modest Proposal by Jonathan Swift. They take it at face value and add it as Exhibit 15,084 in their long list of grievances against teh Jewz, who they have decided are their new overlords.

    However, it is also clear that Stephens' article utterly fails as satire. It is unfunny and if the author aimed to poke fun at the prejudices and the blinkered worldview of his segment of society -- urban, educated, upper-middle class people with 1.2 average kids per family and inordinately large influence in shaping policy and public opinion -- he needs to apprentice first with some writers who have the knack. I think (1) he just isn't a talented writer and (2) he hasn't done the work to figure out where he stands and isn't honest with himself.

    A certain measure of annoyance at America's Jews is understandable, since they feature disproportionately in this urban elite which has been imposing its will on everyone else. However, in reality Jews are still a minority even there. When it comes to open borders, other pressure groups like Big Business and the Catholic and mainline Protestant churches together with their billion-dollar "refugee" resettlement outfits wield even greater influence.
    , @Vinteuil
    "Brad?" Is that what his friends call him? Are you a friend of his, familiar enough to call him "Brad?"
    , @anon
    The "I was only kidding!" defense would be more defensible if they didn't get so mad about people who are just kidding about sending people to concentration camps.
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  34. PaleMale says:
    @Twinkie

    Because I’m the child of immigrants and grew up abroad, I have always thought of the United States as a country that belongs first to its newcomers
     
    I can only describe this sentiment as insanity. Nothing less (and possibly something worse).

    I don't come from some sort of a "Third World hell-hole" (a term that appears popular with a certain crowd here). I did not come to the United States to escape oppression, war or poverty. My life was pretty good where I was born. Nonetheless, I am very GRATEFUL that this country and its people, by and large, have welcomed me and made me one of their own. And I have shared this sense of gratitude with my own children and have taught them to value the great gift and blessing they have inherited as native-born Americans. I suspect many older immigrants felt this way and became patriotic Americans, as I am and have been, and taught their children likewise.

    I just cannot fathom why people such as Brett Stephens are filled with such contempt and hatred ("too many people who don’t work hard...") for the native-born Americans who welcomed his parents. This is not a feeling or an attitude that a normal human being ought to have. This is some kind of mass hysteria or insanity. Rather than treasuring this country as something to cherish and protect (not just for him for his children and their progeny), he and others like him seem to view it as something to which they are entitled to despoil and share with the rest of the world as some kind of loot.

    What is the source of this derangement? When did patriotism - the love of one's country AND its people, one's fellow citizens - become "hatred" of others, something which, apparently, is to be exorcised by this crazed notion that America ought to treat citizens of other countries better than its own?

    I just cannot fathom why people such as Brett Stephens are filled with such contempt and hatred (“too many people who don’t work hard…”) for the native-born Americans who welcomed his parents.

    As a general rule one cannot assume that gratitude for a kind act will override another person’s natural inclination to hate or despise you. It may for a moment, or an hour, or even a generation, but eventually the tendency towards contempt wins out. Just look at the terrorism stats: it seems that, overwhelmingly, it is the children of immigrants who are most inclined to commit terrorist acts, not the immigrants themselves. Their parents were grateful for having been let into the country. Their children, however, reverted towards open contempt for the host populations – a contempt they were probably taught by their parents but which their parents, for various reasons, never acted upon.

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  35. New York Times columnist Bret Stephens is an anti-White interloper of the worst sort. Bret Stephens clearly has eliminationist intentions regarding the European Christian ancestral core of the United States. Bret Stephens is a vile corporate propaganda whore who delights in the use of mass immigration as a demographic weapon to attack White Core Americans.

    Bret Stephens says this about White Core Americans:

    Because I’m the child of immigrants and grew up abroad, I have always thought of the United States as a country that belongs first to its newcomers — the people who strain hardest to become a part of it because they realize that it’s precious; and who do the most to remake it so that our ideas, and our appeal, may stay fresh.

    That used to be a cliché, but in the Age of Trump it needs to be explained all over again. We’re a country of immigrants — by and for them, too. Americans who don’t get it should get out.

    I say this about Bret Stephens:

    How sharper than a serpent’s tooth it is to have a thankless Jew

    You would expect that Jews such as Bret Stephens would be thankful and grateful to live in a nation colonized, settled and pioneered by European Christians. But Jews such as Bret Stephens are forever full of hate against the European Christian people. Bret Stephens is an anti-White subversive who should be encouraged to move to a non-European nation. There is no reason why Bret Stephens can’t move to Uganda or Israel.

    Stephen Miller is a Jew who is very proud to live in a nation colonized, settled and pioneered by European Christians. Many other Jews are grateful to the European Christian people for allowing them to continue to live amongst them.

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    And Stephen Miller is hated and called a traitor by his fellow Jews.
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  36. Mr. Anon says:
    @Twinkie

    Because I’m the child of immigrants and grew up abroad, I have always thought of the United States as a country that belongs first to its newcomers
     
    I can only describe this sentiment as insanity. Nothing less (and possibly something worse).

    I don't come from some sort of a "Third World hell-hole" (a term that appears popular with a certain crowd here). I did not come to the United States to escape oppression, war or poverty. My life was pretty good where I was born. Nonetheless, I am very GRATEFUL that this country and its people, by and large, have welcomed me and made me one of their own. And I have shared this sense of gratitude with my own children and have taught them to value the great gift and blessing they have inherited as native-born Americans. I suspect many older immigrants felt this way and became patriotic Americans, as I am and have been, and taught their children likewise.

    I just cannot fathom why people such as Brett Stephens are filled with such contempt and hatred ("too many people who don’t work hard...") for the native-born Americans who welcomed his parents. This is not a feeling or an attitude that a normal human being ought to have. This is some kind of mass hysteria or insanity. Rather than treasuring this country as something to cherish and protect (not just for him for his children and their progeny), he and others like him seem to view it as something to which they are entitled to despoil and share with the rest of the world as some kind of loot.

    What is the source of this derangement? When did patriotism - the love of one's country AND its people, one's fellow citizens - become "hatred" of others, something which, apparently, is to be exorcised by this crazed notion that America ought to treat citizens of other countries better than its own?

    I can only describe this sentiment as insanity. Nothing less (and possibly something worse).

    It’s called “chutzpah”. That the concept is best described by a yiddish word is, I am sure, purely coincidence.

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    Lol! As always, your comment is a delight.
    , @athEIst
    +1
    , @kaganovitch
    It's actually an Aramaic word fwiw.
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  37. @Sid
    Why do people think it's such an effective insult to tell white Americans they HAVE TO GO BACK... to Europe?

    How many Americans HAVEN'T fantasized about living Europe? A couple of hillbillies?

    Really, I think one reason why white liberals love talking about how whites stole land from the Indians is that it implies they have to return to Europe. And wouldn't that be awesome?

    If we agreed to extreme nativism where everyone had to go back to where their ancestors lived before 1500, and we restored North America to the indigenous peoples, white liberals would be the biggest winners.

    Heck, I'm an American patriot, but I'd love to have to live in Ireland or Sweden. If the Muslim and African "refugees" were forced to go back where they came from so I could move in, I'd have few complaints.

    My paternal ancestor knocked the dirt of Europe off his feet nearly 360 years ago. I am not European, I am American. No way in hell would I live in any European nation.

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  38. @Robert Hume
    In his June article Stephens seems to be saying that Blacks should go back to Africa. BLM should get on his case.

    "In the matter of immigration, mark this conservative columnist down as strongly pro-deportation. The United States has too many people who don’t work hard, don’t believe in God, don’t contribute much to society and don’t appreciate the greatness of the American system.

    They need to return whence they came."

    The United States has too many people who don’t work hard, don’t believe in God, don’t contribute much to society and don’t appreciate the greatness of the American system.

    Three out of those four things he listed seem to overwhelmingly apply to his Tribe.

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    4 out of 4. Unless you count fanatically advocating White genocide and funding censorship campaigns by wannabe secret police outfits like the ADL and SPLC "hard work."
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  39. Mr. Anon says:
    @yyrvjh
    No one really has a 100 percent satisfying answer to your questions. It seems that mass immigration into the First World is the preferred way to keep growing global GDP, without which the whole merry-go-round comes to a crashing halt; never mind the social costs and never mind "sustainability". But in the long run, we're all dead so what the heck.

    Here on iSteve, you can count on a Jew being paraded as the culprit whenever there is a chance to do so. But in Germany, non-Jewish chancellor Merkel talks exactly the same drivel and will be returned to office next month so that she can do four more years of damage. Of course, the even more paranoid antisemites will insist that the evil Hebrews secretly rule Germany, too, or that Merkel is half-Jewish or some other fevered fantasy. Must be comforting to know that all the world's evils can be traced to a single cause.

    Must be comforting to know that all the world’s evils can be traced to a single cause.

    No, nor does anyone here likely believe that. But are we supposed to not notice the brazen ethnic self-interest and hyprocrisy of people like Mr. Stephens when it proudly displays itself?

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  40. Hubbub says:

    Because I’m the child of immigrants and grew up abroad, I have always thought of the United States as a country that belongs first to its newcomers …

    Bret, you need to get out the ‘thought’ing business. Obviously, it’s too much for you.

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  41. The Z Blog says: • Website

    There’s an element of Jewish triumphalism that probably needs to be addressed by Jews. This is another example of it. Here is an example from The Forward.

    This smug, sneering contempt for whites by guys like Stephens is very bad for Jews. High IQ, money and solidarity cannot overcome a 40-to-1 numerical advantage. At least not forever. American has been great for Jews and they need to preserve it.

    I touched on this a little today. Alt-Jew http://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=11355

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    It can and has been able to overcome those odds. The good news is that the institutions with which said odds were overcome are ripe for subversion.
    , @Anonym
    I like what you've written and think it's the way forward. It was interesting to read the following which someone linked on your site, maybe not surprising but interesting.

    https://archive.is/u9rS9

    I get the feeling that there is more of this realisation that you refer in your comment going on, it's a growing thing. Maybe that's demographics, maybe it's awareness, I'm not sure.

    It seems that a lot of the drive for Jews acting the way they have stems from a religious base, which is hard to change but maybe you can do it, who knows. In the modern era, things are approached more scientifically. We engineer things. We modify things. We institute a version 2.0, 2.1, 3.0, 3.1... x.n, and continuously make it better rather than slavishly follow a formula that was crafted many centuries ago. We look at what works, why it works, and then use that knowledge to improve things. There are plenty of Jews who are accustomed to this way of thinking, like Brin and Page and many others.

    I am not sure how Judaism adapts. If we look at Islam, there was a lot of adaptation but it occurred solely within the life of the founder, after which the evolution basically halted except for matters of tactics (e.g. using the AK-47 and the bomb instead of the scimitar). I know in Judaism there has been a lot of discussion about what Jews can and should do, but it is more in a lawyerly fashion related to religion, incorporating both spiritual matters and maybe to some extent what would be good for Jews, rather than a practical, engineering fashion.

    Like gentiles, Jews are distributed on a bell curve with IQ and a lot of the smartest probably don't believe in a God per se and are more religious in the sense of "How do I bring about what's good for the Jews".

    Realistically if you are going to effectively partner with a race of people, white people are a natural fit. We make functioning societies that are the world's best to live in. Time and time again we see evidence of that on this very blog. There is a limit to the amount of s*** we will take, but that's manageable. We are a pretty well proven host people for Jews - it makes more sense to me to extend the purview of whites as that was working very well, rather than to see us as the New Canaanites marked for extinction, extinction through miscegenation and slavery.

    Not directing this at you btw. Even the idea of extinction through miscegenation reaches natural limits. You run out of people willing to outbreed, for one. The remnant is more ethnocentric, more conscientious. The mixed people are mixed with various others with I would say, largely worse traits for living amongst. Either more criminal, less altruistic, more corrupt, more ethnocentric, or a better competitor for the Jewish niche. And the mixed people will have those traits more than the previous white race. The "limit" of what they will put up with may be less also, even if they are less inclined for unity.

    The other thing that naturally happens as you turn the screws on whites is that in the balkanization, you get the other races in their unalloyed selves. Is that what is really wanted?

    Harking back to my search for "why?", the realization is that possibly a lot of this came directly from Karl Marx. The "cultural Marxism" of PC is probably a clue. A reasonable amount of anti-whitism is anti-white family, which can be laid directly at the feet of Marx. Marx in a way created another religion made up of ethnic Jews, or an ideology that largely supplanted Judaism is seems.

    http://thefederalist.com/2015/06/29/americans-buy-into-marxist-family-planning/
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  42. Anon 2 says:
    @Flip
    I hear the Habsburgs are available.

    Churchill thought the Austro-Hungarian Empire made a lot of sense in allowing smaller countries to join together to be able to stand up to their larger neighbors.

    Austria with only 10 million people is too small
    to dominate the possible Visegrad 5. Poland is
    by far the largest country in the group. There
    are people in Poland who are advocating the return
    of monarchy, and the Polish aristocracy that has been
    scattered around the world by WW I and WW II, is slowly
    returning and restoring their castles and palaces.

    But seriously, empires are so 19th century. Nobody wants
    to dominate anybody else within the Visegrad Group but
    having a strong entity within Central Europe that’s able
    to stand up to the self-serving machinations by Germany
    and Russia makes good geopolitical sense.

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    If anything, the "self-serving machinations of Germany" only serve the interests of its Deep State quote-unquote elite, but certainly not those of the ordinary (i.e. ethnic German) citizens of the country. One of the latter speaking here.
    , @nemo
    As an Austrian I’d love a resurgence of the double eagle.

    But under the Hungarians or Poles please – our own elites are soy that the American soft empire somehow taught to walk, with possible exception of young Kurz who seems quite down with Visegrad.

    Hofer is OK, but FPÖ is shit in general BTW – they’re socialist nationalists and why even protect your nation if it’s only so that you can degenerate in peace?

    BTW the current Habsburg head is a bit of a pathetic figure, too. Think Prince Charles, not Otto (who himself never understood the satanic nature of Brussels, natch, a generational thing). Without primogeniture, his younger brother is pretty good (and coincidentally (?) in Hungary, not over here).
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  43. @Steve Sailer
    All Stephens' stuff about natives having a higher crime rate than immigrants is about how African-Americans should be deported.

    DISAGGREGATE the Blacks out of crime statistics and native-born Whitey don’t look so bad. DISAGGREGATE Black school test scores out of the White scores and Whitey don’t look so stupid.

    Hillary Clinton demographically disaggregated herself by moving to a mostly White town called Chappaqua, New York. Hillary Clinton does not want to live around Blacks.

    Arizona Senator Jeff Flake’s wife said she was glad to live in a gated community after Flake started to receive messages of disapproval from voters who do not like how Flake pushes mass immigration and how Flake attacks President Trump. Flake disaggregated himself from illegal alien invaders by living in a gated community. Arizona Senator Jeff Flake is a disgusting hypocrite.

    Rich people disaggregate themselves from Blacks and illegal aliens. Regular Whites have to start calling these rich people out on their hypocrisy.

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    Note how Black mayhem has been transformed into the overarching phrase "Gun Violence" both to cover the racial aspect and to push for the continual destruction of US gun rights.

    That's why it would be far more appropriate ("hateful" in leftist parlance) to use "Felonious Black Gunfire" (FBG) to describe the reality of Black criminal anarchy.
    , @AnotherDad

    Hillary Clinton demographically disaggregated herself by moving to a mostly White town called Chappaqua, New York. Hillary Clinton does not want to live around Blacks.
     
    This was a trivially easy debate jab for Trump, that I and no doubt a bunch of folks here pointed out. When the hectoring windbag said "diversity", it should have been the first thing out of Trump's mouth.

    "Hillary loves absolutely loves diversity. When she left the White House, she convinced Bill to move to the absolutely whitest place, with the fewest blacks--less than 1% black--of any town around New York." Then broaden the point: "You see this a lot with 'diversity' spouting Democratic politicians. They preach 'diversity', 'diversity', 'diversity', but chose to live in whitetopias, gated communities. If they are actually living in a "diverse" community it's probably one that is gentrifying where more white people are moving in and the expectation is the rising prices will push the blacks out. The only "diversity" these politicians actually tolerate is having Maria the maid come in to cook, clean and maybe watch the kids.

    "When a politician says "diversity" what they mean is they want cheap labor and votes for themselves. They can live in a pricey neighborhood that screens all the unpleasant "diversity" out; you get to live next to the Somali refugees. Their motto is 'diversity for thee, but not for me.' They are frauds, hypocrites, scum."

    I really wish we'd have even a single conservative/nationalist politician who was verbally facile or even articulate. Debunking leftist/multicultural/pro-immigrant nonsense is easy--population numbers, economics, culture, environment, terrorism, crime, family-formation ... on and on--the skewers write themselves.

    ~~~
    Dead on about Flake.

    The wife saying how much she likes living in a gated community. The conservative primary attack add writes itself! Do nothing else but beat on this guy selling out the nation.

    Conservatives simply can not afford to vote for this slimy garbage--Flake, McCain, Ryan, Graham ...--running under the nominally conservative party's banner. Primary them out and if that fails vote against them.

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  44. bb753 says:
    @Stephen Paul Foster
    Great point. I lived recently for a short time in Silver Spring MD. Twenty or thirty years ago it was a nice American suburb of DC. Its demography now resembles a nightmarish hybrid of Tijuana and Addis Ababa. Give me Dublin or Edinburgh circa 1950 and I'll go in a flash.

    Dublin in 1995 was still overwhemingly Irish, and I believe Edinburgh remains almost totally Scottish to this day.

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  45. anontmous says:

    Boy is this person filled with hatred and loathing. Yet people like this are the first to accuse others of what they themselves are guilty of. What’s with this “don’t work hard” routine of his? His servants don’t work hard enough to service him? He’s a keyboard warrior without a single callus on his royal hands but yet apparently likes it when others work hard.

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  46. @dearieme
    "I’d love to have to live in Ireland or Sweden": good God! Choice bits of France or Italy or Britain or Germany, Austria, or Switzerland, yes. Or, for those who know more about such places, perhaps Slovenia, Spain, Portugal. Luxembourg is attractive. Bruges, Amsterdam, Prague ......

    But Sweden? Ireland? Golly.

    Parts of Ireland are truly spectacular and the people overall are generally a nice sort. Sure, the weather is mostly terrible but when the sun comes out it like God’s Own Country – an expression originally used to describe the Wicklow mountains, which are a short drive from my home. Kerry, Cork, Clare, Galway… the whole Atlantic coastline is something to see.

    Much of the liberal stupidity you see in the UK and France has not yet taken root to the same extent and the people are still mostly ethnic Irish. If there is any hope for white people in Western Europe it is Ireland.

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    Let's see how they do with a half-Indian gay prime minister and a generous refugee program.
    , @Redman
    Just got back to NY from my annual summer vacation in Ireland with my Dublin wife and 2 half-Irish kids. I can attest, Ireland is a beautiful (enchanting really) location.

    I recommend the beaches of Achill Island. Some of the nicest in the world.

    That said, the news (both written and radio) has grown more depressingly leftist during the 10 years I've been going there. The rejection of the Catholic Church (due to the pedophilia scandals related to priests) has, I believe, created a cultural vacuum of sorts. The younger Irish are extremely pro-EU and pro-diversity. I fear Ireland will eventually go the way of the UK and will welcome the diverse with open arms.
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  47. @academic gossip
    OT. Two academics gone stupid in Bloomberg.

    1. Noah Feldman invents a theory of Unpardonable Pardons as he continues to search for Trump impeachment pretexts. The schtick this time is a No True President sort of distinction between presidential pardons that are legal and those that are technically kosher but trigger an impeachable pseudo-offense, "contempt for the Constitution".

    http://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-08-23/arpaio-pardon-would-show-contempt-for-constitution

    2. Cathy O'Neil, previously discussed here under "math is racist", now says that psychometry is sexist, because men. Fire the Google memo writer and double down on diversity programming. Along the way she displays an impressively total failure, even by her standards, to understand any of the racist, sexist, math-ist mathematics on which she presents herself as an authority. It is a rare performance, and tickets are free.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-08-16/google-is-right-to-focus-on-gender-bias

    From the second article:

    So why IQ? It’s just a test built by man to emphasize what man thinks is important….

    It was made by a man so it must be biased. QED. I realise that no test is perfect and all have limitations but in my experience the only people who are dismissive of IQ tests are stupid people. Bit like a fat kid refusing to race in the school sportsday because they know they are going to come last.

    First, you need to know how to decide whose code is good, which is known to be biased against women.

    Yes, measuring the execution speed of a code snippet or algorithm is inherently biased towards women, because men built the computer. See above. QED.

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    We also have racist code-analysis tools like Sonar and Coverity, and even more racist/misogynist compilers that highlight syntax, coding and typing errors even WHILE YOU LITERALLY TYPE. No-one is SAFE!

    Even worse is that coding/typing errors are detected via theorem-proving, which is the total white male supremacy ticket, with added neuro-fascism.

    WHERE WILL IT END? IN GAS CHAMBERS! GUARDED BY MALE NERDS!
    , @academic gossip
    To use PTT's meme, you can't climb this Everest of stupid as a lowly amateur, it requires the assistance of professional Sherpas.

    O'Neil is positioning herself as the Math Sherpa for SJW. The idea is that if enough scary (imaginary) technical-sounding "ethical issues" can be raised, momentum can be raised for regulation that would create a new parasitic industry of algorithm auditing. The rent-seeking endgame is arbitrage between the statistical reality detected by fair algorithms, and the impossible dream of equal results, with the Algorithmic Diversity Enforcer as a middleman who gets paid a cut for certifying fairness after suitably degrading the performance of the formula.

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  48. @Anon 2
    OT Austria's (former) conservative presidential candidate
    Hofer wants Austria to join the Visegrad group which currently
    comprises Poland, Czechia, Slovakia, and Hungary. This would
    make great sense: all five countries constitute the core of Central
    Europe - predominantly Catholic countries that have had centuries
    of history together, and as a result developed similar cultures.
    None of them have a colonialist past and none participated in the
    transatlantic slave trade - hence they feel no white guilt about the
    past. All of them are opposed to accepting Muslim migrants that
    Brussels (and Frau Merkel) are trying to ram down their throats.

    With a combined population of 75 million the Visegrad 5 would
    be an effective counterweight to Germany's (population: 80 million)
    autocratic shenanigans. In the economic sphere, Poland's economy
    is 3 times the size of Austria's and 4 times the size of Hungary's
    economy

    If there is any hope, it lies in the Poles.

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    If there is any hope, it lies in the Poles.
     
    HEH!

    George, you magnificent bastard, I read your book.*


    * well, the Cliff Notes, anyway ... you know, being Pollock and all.
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  49. @Charles Pewitt
    DISAGGREGATE the Blacks out of crime statistics and native-born Whitey don't look so bad. DISAGGREGATE Black school test scores out of the White scores and Whitey don't look so stupid.

    Hillary Clinton demographically disaggregated herself by moving to a mostly White town called Chappaqua, New York. Hillary Clinton does not want to live around Blacks.

    Arizona Senator Jeff Flake's wife said she was glad to live in a gated community after Flake started to receive messages of disapproval from voters who do not like how Flake pushes mass immigration and how Flake attacks President Trump. Flake disaggregated himself from illegal alien invaders by living in a gated community. Arizona Senator Jeff Flake is a disgusting hypocrite.

    Rich people disaggregate themselves from Blacks and illegal aliens. Regular Whites have to start calling these rich people out on their hypocrisy.

    Note how Black mayhem has been transformed into the overarching phrase “Gun Violence” both to cover the racial aspect and to push for the continual destruction of US gun rights.

    That’s why it would be far more appropriate (“hateful” in leftist parlance) to use “Felonious Black Gunfire” (FBG) to describe the reality of Black criminal anarchy.

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  50. biz says:
    @Stephen Paul Foster
    Great point. I lived recently for a short time in Silver Spring MD. Twenty or thirty years ago it was a nice American suburb of DC. Its demography now resembles a nightmarish hybrid of Tijuana and Addis Ababa. Give me Dublin or Edinburgh circa 1950 and I'll go in a flash.

    Silver Spring is not a good example to use if you want to say that immigration ruins things. It is a highly gentrified, high quality of life, inner ring suburb with a million restaurants and amenities in a beautifully renovated downtown with stratospheric and still skyrocketing property values. It also has access to one of the top few public high schools in the whole country.

    If you gave 100 middle class Americans one day in Silver Spring and then asked if they want to live there 80 would say yes.

    Have you looked at Langley Park?

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    Ft. Meade was once a destination for me and I looked at housing nearby. Columbia seemed more attractive than Laurel, in part because of an old song that mentioned "I'm goin' down to Laurel, it's a dirty stinkin' town, yeah".
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  51. Whiskey says: • Website

    Stephens hates Bibi and Israel more then Huwhites. It’s class race warfare both. Like floor wax and dessert topping.

    Stephens is like Merkel and Bush family in that they are upper class and figure they are a separate race if Whites. Not Jews but GoodWhites.

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    Stephens hates Bibi and Israel more then Huwhites.

    Wrong. Stephens loves "Bibi" (why do you use the affectionate diminutive?) and Israel.

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  52. @Achilles
    Trump now a Confederate? Come to think of it, wasn't there a chapter in Slaves of New York about how the Trump slaves would emerge from Trump Tower onto Fifth Avenue at sundown after their long and back-breaking day of work in the Trump fields to gather round and sing folk songs and hymns?

    But it does seem like just last week he was Trump the Terrible, Czar of all the Russias.

    And before that, Fuehrer Adolf Trump.

    And before that, the neocons were describing him as "Caesarist." Probably Titus, conqueror of the Jews, they had in mind.

    What's next? Did the Chinese ever cross the Jews? If so, perhaps he will be Emperor Trump Manchu next week.

    Surely there must already be articles somewhere in the neurotic Jewish media portraying Trump as Haman.

    One thing about Bret Stephens, he does not much try to disguise his extremely strong view that American policy and power should be applied to advance Jewish group interests to the exclusion of any other interest.

    At times he will offer a contention that one or the other of mass importation of cheap third world labor or off-shoring the US industrial base or applying the US military to solve the problems of Israel is in the great national interest of the American people, but not with the energy of a piece like that here.

    “Surely there must already be articles somewhere in the neurotic Jewish media portraying Trump as Haman.”

    Been there done that

    http://forward.com/opinion/336149/trump-is-not-hitler-and-hes-not-haman-hes-ahasuerus/

    http://www.figtreerevolution.com/blog-1/2017/1/11/his-name-is-haman

    You try to be cynical but you can’t keep up with reality as the saying goes.

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    “Surely there must already be articles somewhere in the neurotic Jewish media portraying Trump as Haman.”

    Been there done that.
     
    It's a rather sobering analogy, because if you read the Book of Esther, the Jews claim divine sanction to usurp the throne, murder Haman and his ten sons, and then kill 75,000 of their enemies with the blessing of the Persian king they co-opted through the trickery of Mordecai and Esther.

    Pretty frightening stuff, really...
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  53. @dearieme
    "I’d love to have to live in Ireland or Sweden": good God! Choice bits of France or Italy or Britain or Germany, Austria, or Switzerland, yes. Or, for those who know more about such places, perhaps Slovenia, Spain, Portugal. Luxembourg is attractive. Bruges, Amsterdam, Prague ......

    But Sweden? Ireland? Golly.

    Sweden is the country where a lot of rural Americans would probably be happiest. Not crowded, lots of wilderness, and hunting is quite popular. But Finland might be preferable due to its laxer gun laws. I think your average non-hipster white American would tire very quickly of life in a socially regimented, crowded country like Slovenia or Luxemburg. And the UK, Germany or Switzerland aren’t that much fun if you are used to Wyoming or even rural Maine.

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    First time I've ever heard somebody call Slovenia crowded. Though maybe the mountains make the effective living space a lot smaller.
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  54. Altai says:
    @Anon 2
    OT Austria's (former) conservative presidential candidate
    Hofer wants Austria to join the Visegrad group which currently
    comprises Poland, Czechia, Slovakia, and Hungary. This would
    make great sense: all five countries constitute the core of Central
    Europe - predominantly Catholic countries that have had centuries
    of history together, and as a result developed similar cultures.
    None of them have a colonialist past and none participated in the
    transatlantic slave trade - hence they feel no white guilt about the
    past. All of them are opposed to accepting Muslim migrants that
    Brussels (and Frau Merkel) are trying to ram down their throats.

    With a combined population of 75 million the Visegrad 5 would
    be an effective counterweight to Germany's (population: 80 million)
    autocratic shenanigans. In the economic sphere, Poland's economy
    is 3 times the size of Austria's and 4 times the size of Hungary's
    economy

    They never told you what happened to the Austro-Hungarian Empire, did they?

    They told me enough, they told me your backwards ethnocentric eastern ways killed it!

    No, you are Central European!

    No! That’s impossible, we were in NATO during the cold war, our per capita GDP clusters with the rest of Western Europe! Diversity is our strength!

    Prague is further west than Vienna! Germany has as many Protestants as Catholics! Hitler was Austrian!

    NOOOOOOOOOO!

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  55. Hehe. Bret Stephens – when you want to sound edgy, but end up sounding just stupid.

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  56. @Bleuteaux
    My favorite piece about the hurricane so far laments that all the new development around Houston has prevented the prairie's traditional role of absorbing billions of gallons of water. No word whatsoever on the millions of new immigrants that made that development possible.

    It's really an un-covered economic story just how much of our economy absolutely requires unlimited immigration, and would come crashing to a halt if it stopped.

    My favorite piece about the hurricane so far laments that all the new development around Houston has prevented the prairie’s traditional role of absorbing billions of gallons of water.

    Can you provide a citation?

    It’s really an un-covered economic story just how much of our economy absolutely requires unlimited immigration, and would come crashing to a halt if it stopped.

    Is this assertion related to the earlier ones? What parts of our economy require unlimited immigration?

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    A couple of examples. I just googled "hurricane houston prairie development."

    https://qz.com/1064364/hurricane-harvey-houstons-flooding-made-worse-by-unchecked-urban-development-and-wetland-destruction/

    http://www.npr.org/2017/08/27/546603361/houstons-explosive-growth-amid-disregard-of-flood-preparedness

    As to your second question, I think it's pretty well established that nearly every aspect of our economy (PBUH) lusts after more immigration. With the flooding example, real estate and construction are probably most relevant.
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  57. Altai says:
    @Peter Akuleyev
    Sweden is the country where a lot of rural Americans would probably be happiest. Not crowded, lots of wilderness, and hunting is quite popular. But Finland might be preferable due to its laxer gun laws. I think your average non-hipster white American would tire very quickly of life in a socially regimented, crowded country like Slovenia or Luxemburg. And the UK, Germany or Switzerland aren't that much fun if you are used to Wyoming or even rural Maine.

    First time I’ve ever heard somebody call Slovenia crowded. Though maybe the mountains make the effective living space a lot smaller.

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  58. @Whiskey
    Stephens hates Bibi and Israel more then Huwhites. It's class race warfare both. Like floor wax and dessert topping.

    Stephens is like Merkel and Bush family in that they are upper class and figure they are a separate race if Whites. Not Jews but GoodWhites.

    Stephens hates Bibi and Israel more then Huwhites.

    Wrong. Stephens loves “Bibi” (why do you use the affectionate diminutive?) and Israel.

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  59. @Anonymouse
    Why can you not see that Brad is putting you on?

    The first part is facetious but the end sounds awfully sincere:

    Because I’m the child of immigrants and grew up abroad, I have always thought of the United States as a country that belongs first to its newcomers …

    We’re a country of immigrants — by and for them, too. Americans who don’t get it should get out.

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  60. Bleuteaux says:
    @Opinionator
    My favorite piece about the hurricane so far laments that all the new development around Houston has prevented the prairie’s traditional role of absorbing billions of gallons of water.

    Can you provide a citation?

    It’s really an un-covered economic story just how much of our economy absolutely requires unlimited immigration, and would come crashing to a halt if it stopped.

    Is this assertion related to the earlier ones? What parts of our economy require unlimited immigration?

    A couple of examples. I just googled “hurricane houston prairie development.”

    https://qz.com/1064364/hurricane-harvey-houstons-flooding-made-worse-by-unchecked-urban-development-and-wetland-destruction/

    http://www.npr.org/2017/08/27/546603361/houstons-explosive-growth-amid-disregard-of-flood-preparedness

    As to your second question, I think it’s pretty well established that nearly every aspect of our economy (PBUH) lusts after more immigration. With the flooding example, real estate and construction are probably most relevant.

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  61. yyrvjh says:
    @Anonymouse
    Why can you not see that Brad is putting you on?

    Why can you not see that Brad is putting you on?

    Well, you’re right but you’re also wrong. Steve and his commenters conveniently glide over the fact, which you noticed, that Stephens intended his piece as satire, in the vein of A Modest Proposal by Jonathan Swift. They take it at face value and add it as Exhibit 15,084 in their long list of grievances against teh Jewz, who they have decided are their new overlords.

    However, it is also clear that Stephens’ article utterly fails as satire. It is unfunny and if the author aimed to poke fun at the prejudices and the blinkered worldview of his segment of society — urban, educated, upper-middle class people with 1.2 average kids per family and inordinately large influence in shaping policy and public opinion — he needs to apprentice first with some writers who have the knack. I think (1) he just isn’t a talented writer and (2) he hasn’t done the work to figure out where he stands and isn’t honest with himself.

    A certain measure of annoyance at America’s Jews is understandable, since they feature disproportionately in this urban elite which has been imposing its will on everyone else. However, in reality Jews are still a minority even there. When it comes to open borders, other pressure groups like Big Business and the Catholic and mainline Protestant churches together with their billion-dollar “refugee” resettlement outfits wield even greater influence.

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    I didn't say it was funny or witty. I just said it was a put on which you agree with so why am I wrong?
    , @SMK
    The reason it "utterly fails as satire" is because it isn't satire but is utterly serious and thus beyond insanity.
    , @Sean

    Stephens intended his piece as satire, in the vein of A Modest Proposal by Jonathan Swift.
     
    No reader of it could have thought Swift saw nothing wrong with eating babies. No, Stephens was not writing in the style of any satire.

    A certain measure of annoyance at America’s Jews is understandable, since they feature disproportionately in this urban elite which has been imposing its will on everyone else.
     
    As the captain of the Enterprise said recently , "SJWs stand for inequality, where they are superior to any one else".

    It is very difficult to avoid seeing Stephens as one of a breed there is no shortage of in the NYT.

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  62. TheJester says:

    So, there is a “revolving door” between the Jerusalem Post and the New York Times. I knew it!

    The president’s newfound (or long-hidden) Confederate sympathies are an extension of his other ethnic antipathies, just as the rally’s anti-Semitic chants of “Jews will not replace us” are an extension of the alt-right’s other hatreds.

    The Alt-Right is saying, “Jews will not replace us.”

    The Jews are saying, “You can’t stop us, goyim. You see, trying to stop us is a hate crime. BTW: Got any websites left on line?”

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  63. GSR says:

    The country first belongs to “newcomers”? Wow, clueless Jew. Laughable.

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  64. “Let’s talk about how America is full of Nazis in my New York Times article.”

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  65. @Charles Pewitt
    DISAGGREGATE the Blacks out of crime statistics and native-born Whitey don't look so bad. DISAGGREGATE Black school test scores out of the White scores and Whitey don't look so stupid.

    Hillary Clinton demographically disaggregated herself by moving to a mostly White town called Chappaqua, New York. Hillary Clinton does not want to live around Blacks.

    Arizona Senator Jeff Flake's wife said she was glad to live in a gated community after Flake started to receive messages of disapproval from voters who do not like how Flake pushes mass immigration and how Flake attacks President Trump. Flake disaggregated himself from illegal alien invaders by living in a gated community. Arizona Senator Jeff Flake is a disgusting hypocrite.

    Rich people disaggregate themselves from Blacks and illegal aliens. Regular Whites have to start calling these rich people out on their hypocrisy.

    Hillary Clinton demographically disaggregated herself by moving to a mostly White town called Chappaqua, New York. Hillary Clinton does not want to live around Blacks.

    This was a trivially easy debate jab for Trump, that I and no doubt a bunch of folks here pointed out. When the hectoring windbag said “diversity”, it should have been the first thing out of Trump’s mouth.

    “Hillary loves absolutely loves diversity. When she left the White House, she convinced Bill to move to the absolutely whitest place, with the fewest blacks–less than 1% black–of any town around New York.” Then broaden the point: “You see this a lot with ‘diversity’ spouting Democratic politicians. They preach ‘diversity’, ‘diversity’, ‘diversity’, but chose to live in whitetopias, gated communities. If they are actually living in a “diverse” community it’s probably one that is gentrifying where more white people are moving in and the expectation is the rising prices will push the blacks out. The only “diversity” these politicians actually tolerate is having Maria the maid come in to cook, clean and maybe watch the kids.

    “When a politician says “diversity” what they mean is they want cheap labor and votes for themselves. They can live in a pricey neighborhood that screens all the unpleasant “diversity” out; you get to live next to the Somali refugees. Their motto is ‘diversity for thee, but not for me.’ They are frauds, hypocrites, scum.”

    I really wish we’d have even a single conservative/nationalist politician who was verbally facile or even articulate. Debunking leftist/multicultural/pro-immigrant nonsense is easy–population numbers, economics, culture, environment, terrorism, crime, family-formation … on and on–the skewers write themselves.

    ~~~
    Dead on about Flake.

    The wife saying how much she likes living in a gated community. The conservative primary attack add writes itself! Do nothing else but beat on this guy selling out the nation.

    Conservatives simply can not afford to vote for this slimy garbage–Flake, McCain, Ryan, Graham …–running under the nominally conservative party’s banner. Primary them out and if that fails vote against them.

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    Dad,

    Wouldn't be great to have a situation like in the Steve Martin movie (original story from an older movie or book) where the handsome guy - in this case the well-known guy - has you to put the words in this mouth? I always think of great comebacks that really illustrate the BS. Granted, it is after the fact sometimes. One could say that it's not easy to come up with this stuff right on the fly, but a) lots of people can indeed, because they have much of this policy and history stuff in their heads and b) even if not, that's what all those advisers and debate coaches are all for - get some of these wise-ass AND true comebacks in the front of Trump's head he's ready. This guy is not stupid, but he's not articulate either.

    As far as your last part about primarying out the Senatorial gigolos, I responded to a commenter named Liberal hypocrisy under the "Immigriping" iSteve post as follows:


    As for those 3 gigolo US Senators, lazy people can’t be bothered to get out of their routines once every 6 years to make this primary vote. The shame of it is that if just the real conservatives came out to give support to, and vote for, a primary challenger, they’d have a lot of pull because the normal establishment gigolos won’t get a lot of people coming out either.
     
    L.H. wrote particularly about McCain, Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, and Ms. Lindsey Grahmnesty ($20/hr - SC).


    *** OK, 4 Senatorial gigolos, but I don't want to change the quote of my other comment which is set in stone pixels already.

    , @lavoisier
    Should have happened but never does.

    The traitors keep getting elected and the good people of America keep on voting for the scum.

    No hope for a Republic when the voters are this stupid.
    , @anon
    Diversity for thee, but not for me (or we EUrocrats).

    http://www.politico.eu/article/european-schools-european-problems/
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  66. Once the white Gentiles of traditional America are expelled, the USA as Israeli prime minister
    Nutty-Yahoo said will blow away in the wind. To what country will Stephen flee to escape
    the American Hell Hole?

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  67. @yyrvjh

    Why can you not see that Brad is putting you on?
     
    Well, you're right but you're also wrong. Steve and his commenters conveniently glide over the fact, which you noticed, that Stephens intended his piece as satire, in the vein of A Modest Proposal by Jonathan Swift. They take it at face value and add it as Exhibit 15,084 in their long list of grievances against teh Jewz, who they have decided are their new overlords.

    However, it is also clear that Stephens' article utterly fails as satire. It is unfunny and if the author aimed to poke fun at the prejudices and the blinkered worldview of his segment of society -- urban, educated, upper-middle class people with 1.2 average kids per family and inordinately large influence in shaping policy and public opinion -- he needs to apprentice first with some writers who have the knack. I think (1) he just isn't a talented writer and (2) he hasn't done the work to figure out where he stands and isn't honest with himself.

    A certain measure of annoyance at America's Jews is understandable, since they feature disproportionately in this urban elite which has been imposing its will on everyone else. However, in reality Jews are still a minority even there. When it comes to open borders, other pressure groups like Big Business and the Catholic and mainline Protestant churches together with their billion-dollar "refugee" resettlement outfits wield even greater influence.

    I didn’t say it was funny or witty. I just said it was a put on which you agree with so why am I wrong?

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    OK, not wrong. But it appeared that you didn't notice that it fell flat, so ... pick a different adjective that suits you better :D
    , @AnotherDad

    I didn’t say it was funny or witty. I just said it was a put on which you agree with so why am I wrong?
     
    Uh, because it's not a "put on". (We can argue, but to me a "put on" is a hoax that delivers a message that is actually different from the literal message.)

    Yes, Stephens is exaggerating for effect with the native deportation thing. He's not arguing for that. But everyone here gets that. We're not confused.

    Basically Stephens is saying to nationalists, to those for immigration control and specifically those for deporting illegals: "Hey old-stock natives you're a bunch of losers, this nation belongs to its virtuous hustling immigrants (and kids ... like me!) and if we're going to deport anyone ... it should be sorry asses like you!" His basic message is "nativists shut up!" That message dovetails with everything else Stevens has written on this topic. And it is delivered pretty directly with simple exaggeration for effect.

    If you want to call Stephens' exaggeration for effect, a "put on" ... fine. But it isn't a "put on" that anyone is confused by or that changes the thrust of Stephens' message. It is not a "put on" that obviates Sailer's post or his commenters reactions nor makes sense of your comment. We all get the mocking exaggeration and we are all correctly interpreting how Stephens feels--his contempt.
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  68. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @bb753
    Dublin in 1995 was still overwhemingly Irish, and I believe Edinburgh remains almost totally Scottish to this day.

    Aren’t there quite a lot of Irish in Edinburgh?

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    No.
    The Irish element is overwhelmingly in the West: Glasgow, Paisley, Motherwell, etc. The only large Irish descended population elsewhere is in Dundee, a good hours drive north of Edinburgh. Industries requiring large numbers of strong backs and weak heads is the reason.
    Edinburgh was never an industrial city: its strengths were and are law and banking.
    Probably the most beautiful city in Northern Europe, but the climate, and the people, are cold and unwelcoming.
    John Knox has much to answer for.
    , @bb753
    That would be Glasgow.
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  69. @yyrvjh
    No one really has a 100 percent satisfying answer to your questions. It seems that mass immigration into the First World is the preferred way to keep growing global GDP, without which the whole merry-go-round comes to a crashing halt; never mind the social costs and never mind "sustainability". But in the long run, we're all dead so what the heck.

    Here on iSteve, you can count on a Jew being paraded as the culprit whenever there is a chance to do so. But in Germany, non-Jewish chancellor Merkel talks exactly the same drivel and will be returned to office next month so that she can do four more years of damage. Of course, the even more paranoid antisemites will insist that the evil Hebrews secretly rule Germany, too, or that Merkel is half-Jewish or some other fevered fantasy. Must be comforting to know that all the world's evils can be traced to a single cause.

    Here on iSteve, you can count on a Jew being paraded as the culprit whenever there is a chance to do so. But in Germany, non-Jewish chancellor Merkel talks exactly the same drivel and will be returned to office next month so that she can do four more years of damage.

    Some lead; others are induced to follow.

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  70. Dr. X says:
    @kaganovitch
    "Surely there must already be articles somewhere in the neurotic Jewish media portraying Trump as Haman."

    Been there done that

    http://forward.com/opinion/336149/trump-is-not-hitler-and-hes-not-haman-hes-ahasuerus/

    http://www.figtreerevolution.com/blog-1/2017/1/11/his-name-is-haman


    You try to be cynical but you can't keep up with reality as the saying goes.

    “Surely there must already be articles somewhere in the neurotic Jewish media portraying Trump as Haman.”

    Been there done that.

    It’s a rather sobering analogy, because if you read the Book of Esther, the Jews claim divine sanction to usurp the throne, murder Haman and his ten sons, and then kill 75,000 of their enemies with the blessing of the Persian king they co-opted through the trickery of Mordecai and Esther.

    Pretty frightening stuff, really…

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    What usurping of the throne are you referring to? There is no divine sanction claimed in the Book of Esther (There is famously no mention of God at all in Esther). You think they would have been on firmer moral ground if they just let Haman's plan run it's course and permitted themselves to be exterminated?
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  71. Kylie says:
    @Mr. Anon

    I can only describe this sentiment as insanity. Nothing less (and possibly something worse).
     
    It's called "chutzpah". That the concept is best described by a yiddish word is, I am sure, purely coincidence.

    Lol! As always, your comment is a delight.

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  72. MarcB. says:
    @Twinkie

    Because I’m the child of immigrants and grew up abroad, I have always thought of the United States as a country that belongs first to its newcomers
     
    I can only describe this sentiment as insanity. Nothing less (and possibly something worse).

    I don't come from some sort of a "Third World hell-hole" (a term that appears popular with a certain crowd here). I did not come to the United States to escape oppression, war or poverty. My life was pretty good where I was born. Nonetheless, I am very GRATEFUL that this country and its people, by and large, have welcomed me and made me one of their own. And I have shared this sense of gratitude with my own children and have taught them to value the great gift and blessing they have inherited as native-born Americans. I suspect many older immigrants felt this way and became patriotic Americans, as I am and have been, and taught their children likewise.

    I just cannot fathom why people such as Brett Stephens are filled with such contempt and hatred ("too many people who don’t work hard...") for the native-born Americans who welcomed his parents. This is not a feeling or an attitude that a normal human being ought to have. This is some kind of mass hysteria or insanity. Rather than treasuring this country as something to cherish and protect (not just for him for his children and their progeny), he and others like him seem to view it as something to which they are entitled to despoil and share with the rest of the world as some kind of loot.

    What is the source of this derangement? When did patriotism - the love of one's country AND its people, one's fellow citizens - become "hatred" of others, something which, apparently, is to be exorcised by this crazed notion that America ought to treat citizens of other countries better than its own?

    “Rather than treasuring this country as something to cherish and protect (not just for him for his children and their progeny), he and others like him seem to view it as something to which they are entitled to despoil and share with the rest of the world as some kind of loot”.

    Those of us who are not the descendants of the trailblazers who settled North America owe deference to the values of the great men who came before us. Since there is nothing in this nations founding documents stating that this country is open to all who can somehow manage to arrive, we properly show respect for their sacrifice by adhering to immigration and border protection policies in line with their desires as best as can be determined. Anything else is a betrayal to those who allowed our families entry.

    I remember when people from the US who conducted themselves abroad as Brett Stephens is advocating behaving here were traditionally considered gauche, ugly Americans by lefty sophisticates (when in Rome…). He’s beneath a traitor, because at least a traitor has a land and people to betray. Brett appears to have no tangible connection to anything or anybody.

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    "Brett appears to have no tangible connection to anything or anybody."

    Rootless cosmopolitan somes it up best.

    The struggle between the people and the hatred amongst them is being nurtured by very specific interested parties. It is a small, rootless, international clique that is turning the people against each other, that does not want them to have peace ... It is the people who are at home both nowhere and everywhere, who do not have anywhere a soil on which they have grown up, but who live in Berlin today, in Brussels tomorrow, Paris the day after that, and then again in Prague or Vienna or London, and who feel at home everywhere. [Man in audience shouts 'The Jews!'] They are the only ones who can be addressed as international, because they conduct their business everywhere, but the people cannot follow them.'
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  73. Issac says:
    @The Z Blog
    There's an element of Jewish triumphalism that probably needs to be addressed by Jews. This is another example of it. Here is an example from The Forward.

    This smug, sneering contempt for whites by guys like Stephens is very bad for Jews. High IQ, money and solidarity cannot overcome a 40-to-1 numerical advantage. At least not forever. American has been great for Jews and they need to preserve it.

    I touched on this a little today. Alt-Jew http://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=11355

    It can and has been able to overcome those odds. The good news is that the institutions with which said odds were overcome are ripe for subversion.

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  74. Lurker says:
    @TTSSYF
    Who said anything about there being a single cause? If there is, it is ideology, not ethnicity.

    It isn't Steve's fault if the majority of Jewish pundits parrot essentially the same anti-nationalist, scornful attitude toward white, traditionalist conservatives (even the supposed conservatives ones like Stephens, Brooks, etc.) and draw attention to themselves with such commentary.

    If there is, it is ideology, not ethnicity.

    And where does that ideology come from? And which institutions propagate it? And who controls those institutions?

    Beats me.

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  75. Bill says:
    @yyrvjh
    No one really has a 100 percent satisfying answer to your questions. It seems that mass immigration into the First World is the preferred way to keep growing global GDP, without which the whole merry-go-round comes to a crashing halt; never mind the social costs and never mind "sustainability". But in the long run, we're all dead so what the heck.

    Here on iSteve, you can count on a Jew being paraded as the culprit whenever there is a chance to do so. But in Germany, non-Jewish chancellor Merkel talks exactly the same drivel and will be returned to office next month so that she can do four more years of damage. Of course, the even more paranoid antisemites will insist that the evil Hebrews secretly rule Germany, too, or that Merkel is half-Jewish or some other fevered fantasy. Must be comforting to know that all the world's evils can be traced to a single cause.

    No one really has a 100 percent satisfying answer to your questions . . . Here on iSteve, you can count on a Jew being paraded as the culprit whenever there is a chance to do so.

    The thing to think about here is: how is it possible for yyrvjh to react to Bret Stephens’s atrocious behavior by bitching about anti-semitism? Is yyrvjh’s behavior any different from Bret Stephens’s, or does it display the same fault?

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    Same unhinged Jewish lunacy. Wacko Jew just has to defend Bret Stephens like the ADL had to defend Leo Frank. Keep it up, Yids. You'll soon see. Us Whites can be ethnocentric too.
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  76. @Sid
    Why do people think it's such an effective insult to tell white Americans they HAVE TO GO BACK... to Europe?

    How many Americans HAVEN'T fantasized about living Europe? A couple of hillbillies?

    Really, I think one reason why white liberals love talking about how whites stole land from the Indians is that it implies they have to return to Europe. And wouldn't that be awesome?

    If we agreed to extreme nativism where everyone had to go back to where their ancestors lived before 1500, and we restored North America to the indigenous peoples, white liberals would be the biggest winners.

    Heck, I'm an American patriot, but I'd love to have to live in Ireland or Sweden. If the Muslim and African "refugees" were forced to go back where they came from so I could move in, I'd have few complaints.

    Europe is great. I’m in East Germany between Leipzig and Dresden.

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    I was recently in Dresden for a few days. Very lovely city!
    , @Old Palo Altan
    I envy you.
    Dresden is beautiful once again, and it is surrounded by some of the finest monuments, both of God and man, to be found anywhere.
    And it will be forever honoured as the birthplace of Pegida.
    I expect the region to giver the AfD a good 20% of the vote in September.
    , @Peripatetic commenter
    Not near Breitenfeld, then?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVg28azacaM
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  77. Bill says:
    @Peter Akuleyev
    I just cannot fathom why people such as Brett Stephens are filled with such contempt and hatred (“too many people who don’t work hard…”) for the native-born Americans who welcomed his parents

    It may well be contempt for percieved weakness. Jews were so used to being scorned, pushed around and beaten in the Old Country that some of them have a hard time adjusting to a country that actually welcomes them and encourages them to take the best it has to offer. People who hate themselves can't stand people who love them, and Jewish culture has internalized a lot of self-hatred over the centuries.

    People who hate themselves can’t stand people who love them, and Jewish culture has internalized a lot of self-hatred over the centuries.

    Self-hating Jews are a regular trope of Jewish culture. Sort of like introspective, educated black physicists are a regular trope of Jewish culture.

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    And genius Black kids suffering from low self esteem.
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  78. SMK says: • Website
    @Altai

    On point after point, America’s nonimmigrants are failing our country. …

    Because I’m the child of immigrants and grew up abroad, I have always thought of the United States as a country that belongs first to its newcomers …

    We’re a country of immigrants — by and for them, too. Americans who don’t get it should get out.
     

    Bret Stephens is such a walking alt-right meme (Arguing for his ethnic self-interests whilst trying to rationalise to take the moral high ground no matter how much he distorts reality in a way he can't ever hope to disguise) that I sometimes wonder if his parents original name wasn't Shekelberg.

    At least Kristol gets disavowed, are any prominent American Jews starting to get nervous at what Stephens writes?

    How has Kristol been “disavowed”?

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  79. @TelfoedJohn
    If there is any hope, it lies in the Poles.

    If there is any hope, it lies in the Poles.

    HEH!

    George, you magnificent bastard, I read your book.*

    * well, the Cliff Notes, anyway … you know, being Pollock and all.

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  80. Ivy says:
    @biz
    Silver Spring is not a good example to use if you want to say that immigration ruins things. It is a highly gentrified, high quality of life, inner ring suburb with a million restaurants and amenities in a beautifully renovated downtown with stratospheric and still skyrocketing property values. It also has access to one of the top few public high schools in the whole country.

    If you gave 100 middle class Americans one day in Silver Spring and then asked if they want to live there 80 would say yes.

    Have you looked at Langley Park?

    Ft. Meade was once a destination for me and I looked at housing nearby. Columbia seemed more attractive than Laurel, in part because of an old song that mentioned “I’m goin’ down to Laurel, it’s a dirty stinkin’ town, yeah”.

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  81. @AnotherDad

    Hillary Clinton demographically disaggregated herself by moving to a mostly White town called Chappaqua, New York. Hillary Clinton does not want to live around Blacks.
     
    This was a trivially easy debate jab for Trump, that I and no doubt a bunch of folks here pointed out. When the hectoring windbag said "diversity", it should have been the first thing out of Trump's mouth.

    "Hillary loves absolutely loves diversity. When she left the White House, she convinced Bill to move to the absolutely whitest place, with the fewest blacks--less than 1% black--of any town around New York." Then broaden the point: "You see this a lot with 'diversity' spouting Democratic politicians. They preach 'diversity', 'diversity', 'diversity', but chose to live in whitetopias, gated communities. If they are actually living in a "diverse" community it's probably one that is gentrifying where more white people are moving in and the expectation is the rising prices will push the blacks out. The only "diversity" these politicians actually tolerate is having Maria the maid come in to cook, clean and maybe watch the kids.

    "When a politician says "diversity" what they mean is they want cheap labor and votes for themselves. They can live in a pricey neighborhood that screens all the unpleasant "diversity" out; you get to live next to the Somali refugees. Their motto is 'diversity for thee, but not for me.' They are frauds, hypocrites, scum."

    I really wish we'd have even a single conservative/nationalist politician who was verbally facile or even articulate. Debunking leftist/multicultural/pro-immigrant nonsense is easy--population numbers, economics, culture, environment, terrorism, crime, family-formation ... on and on--the skewers write themselves.

    ~~~
    Dead on about Flake.

    The wife saying how much she likes living in a gated community. The conservative primary attack add writes itself! Do nothing else but beat on this guy selling out the nation.

    Conservatives simply can not afford to vote for this slimy garbage--Flake, McCain, Ryan, Graham ...--running under the nominally conservative party's banner. Primary them out and if that fails vote against them.

    Dad,

    Wouldn’t be great to have a situation like in the Steve Martin movie (original story from an older movie or book) where the handsome guy – in this case the well-known guy – has you to put the words in this mouth? I always think of great comebacks that really illustrate the BS. Granted, it is after the fact sometimes. One could say that it’s not easy to come up with this stuff right on the fly, but a) lots of people can indeed, because they have much of this policy and history stuff in their heads and b) even if not, that’s what all those advisers and debate coaches are all for – get some of these wise-ass AND true comebacks in the front of Trump’s head he’s ready. This guy is not stupid, but he’s not articulate either.

    As far as your last part about primarying out the Senatorial gigolos, I responded to a commenter named Liberal hypocrisy under the “Immigriping” iSteve post as follows:

    As for those 3 gigolo US Senators, lazy people can’t be bothered to get out of their routines once every 6 years to make this primary vote. The shame of it is that if just the real conservatives came out to give support to, and vote for, a primary challenger, they’d have a lot of pull because the normal establishment gigolos won’t get a lot of people coming out either.

    L.H. wrote particularly about McCain, Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, and Ms. Lindsey Grahmnesty ($20/hr – SC).

    *** OK, 4 Senatorial gigolos, but I don’t want to change the quote of my other comment which is set in stone pixels already.

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    Although not required by the Constitution to be a member of the House, the tradition is that Speakers of the House are. The current Speaker keeps with that tradition; Paul Ryan is not a Senator.
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  82. bomag says:
    @Twinkie

    Because I’m the child of immigrants and grew up abroad, I have always thought of the United States as a country that belongs first to its newcomers
     
    I can only describe this sentiment as insanity. Nothing less (and possibly something worse).

    I don't come from some sort of a "Third World hell-hole" (a term that appears popular with a certain crowd here). I did not come to the United States to escape oppression, war or poverty. My life was pretty good where I was born. Nonetheless, I am very GRATEFUL that this country and its people, by and large, have welcomed me and made me one of their own. And I have shared this sense of gratitude with my own children and have taught them to value the great gift and blessing they have inherited as native-born Americans. I suspect many older immigrants felt this way and became patriotic Americans, as I am and have been, and taught their children likewise.

    I just cannot fathom why people such as Brett Stephens are filled with such contempt and hatred ("too many people who don’t work hard...") for the native-born Americans who welcomed his parents. This is not a feeling or an attitude that a normal human being ought to have. This is some kind of mass hysteria or insanity. Rather than treasuring this country as something to cherish and protect (not just for him for his children and their progeny), he and others like him seem to view it as something to which they are entitled to despoil and share with the rest of the world as some kind of loot.

    What is the source of this derangement? When did patriotism - the love of one's country AND its people, one's fellow citizens - become "hatred" of others, something which, apparently, is to be exorcised by this crazed notion that America ought to treat citizens of other countries better than its own?

    I just cannot fathom why people such as Brett Stephens are filled with such contempt and hatred (“too many people who don’t work hard…”)

    I really cringed at that line from Stephens; ironic echoes of Arbeit Macht Frei.

    When Brett Stephens gets busy purging the current lazy residents to make way for alleged hard working newcomers, I wonder if he will use rail cars?

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  83. Herzog says:
    @Anon 2
    Austria with only 10 million people is too small
    to dominate the possible Visegrad 5. Poland is
    by far the largest country in the group. There
    are people in Poland who are advocating the return
    of monarchy, and the Polish aristocracy that has been
    scattered around the world by WW I and WW II, is slowly
    returning and restoring their castles and palaces.

    But seriously, empires are so 19th century. Nobody wants
    to dominate anybody else within the Visegrad Group but
    having a strong entity within Central Europe that's able
    to stand up to the self-serving machinations by Germany
    and Russia makes good geopolitical sense.

    If anything, the “self-serving machinations of Germany” only serve the interests of its Deep State quote-unquote elite, but certainly not those of the ordinary (i.e. ethnic German) citizens of the country. One of the latter speaking here.

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    Yes, I used the word "Germany" as shorthand
    for the ruling elites who, alas, don't have the best
    interests of the citizenry in mind. Unfortunately,
    the same situation prevails here in the U.S.
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  84. SMK says: • Website
    @yyrvjh

    Why can you not see that Brad is putting you on?
     
    Well, you're right but you're also wrong. Steve and his commenters conveniently glide over the fact, which you noticed, that Stephens intended his piece as satire, in the vein of A Modest Proposal by Jonathan Swift. They take it at face value and add it as Exhibit 15,084 in their long list of grievances against teh Jewz, who they have decided are their new overlords.

    However, it is also clear that Stephens' article utterly fails as satire. It is unfunny and if the author aimed to poke fun at the prejudices and the blinkered worldview of his segment of society -- urban, educated, upper-middle class people with 1.2 average kids per family and inordinately large influence in shaping policy and public opinion -- he needs to apprentice first with some writers who have the knack. I think (1) he just isn't a talented writer and (2) he hasn't done the work to figure out where he stands and isn't honest with himself.

    A certain measure of annoyance at America's Jews is understandable, since they feature disproportionately in this urban elite which has been imposing its will on everyone else. However, in reality Jews are still a minority even there. When it comes to open borders, other pressure groups like Big Business and the Catholic and mainline Protestant churches together with their billion-dollar "refugee" resettlement outfits wield even greater influence.

    The reason it “utterly fails as satire” is because it isn’t satire but is utterly serious and thus beyond insanity.

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    Laff a little, SMK. It helps to prevent lockjaw.
    , @Anonym
    Yes, many a true word is spoken in jest. But for jest to work as jest, it can't just be truth (or rather, serious intent).
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  85. SMK says: • Website
    @Bubba
    Bret Stephens is a doppelgänger for Jared Kushner and both are smug, effete elitists with no connection to reality.

    “Don’t work hard (or at all),” don’t “contribute much” or anything to society but actively blight and destroy cities and neighborhoods, don’t “appreciate” or loathe America and the people who created and sustain it and the “American system,” “entitled,” etc.? What group first comes to mind when one reads this article? But I’m sure he’s not implying that blacks return to Africa.

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  86. @Sid
    Why do people think it's such an effective insult to tell white Americans they HAVE TO GO BACK... to Europe?

    How many Americans HAVEN'T fantasized about living Europe? A couple of hillbillies?

    Really, I think one reason why white liberals love talking about how whites stole land from the Indians is that it implies they have to return to Europe. And wouldn't that be awesome?

    If we agreed to extreme nativism where everyone had to go back to where their ancestors lived before 1500, and we restored North America to the indigenous peoples, white liberals would be the biggest winners.

    Heck, I'm an American patriot, but I'd love to have to live in Ireland or Sweden. If the Muslim and African "refugees" were forced to go back where they came from so I could move in, I'd have few complaints.

    “If we agreed to extreme nativism where everyone had to go back to where their ancestors lived before 1500″

    Well, 1500 is pretty far back, but my earliest (traceable) ancestor to come here arrived in the 1660′s. As such I consider myself a Native American and have no interest in living in a foreign land (Europe).

    Re Stephens: you know you’re pretty far gone when even the WSJ can’t stomach you any further.

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    My European ancestors fled Germany to escape death. The Lutherans drowned them ("the third baptism") and the Catholics burned them alive. The last thing they ever wanted to do was go back. When some of them finally did, centuries later, it was only heavily armed and with artillery and air support. One or two of them might even have muttered, after announcing "Bombs away!" payback's a bitch, huh?
    And when the Luftwaffe saw them and their pals coming, they didn't say, welcome home, fellow Germans, they said, Achtung... Indianer! And then they got the shit shot out of them by guys named Schiller and Zemke flying airplanes built by companies founded by guys named Wilhelm Böing and Dutch Kindelberger, good, solid Americans.
    Of course, on the other side of the world, when the Japanese got blasted out of the sky by guys named Aschenbrener and Bauer, it didn't occur to them that they were representatives of their German allies. They were most definitely Americans.
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  87. yyrvjh says:
    @Anonymouse
    I didn't say it was funny or witty. I just said it was a put on which you agree with so why am I wrong?

    OK, not wrong. But it appeared that you didn’t notice that it fell flat, so … pick a different adjective that suits you better :D

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  88. yyrvjh says:
    @SMK
    The reason it "utterly fails as satire" is because it isn't satire but is utterly serious and thus beyond insanity.

    Laff a little, SMK. It helps to prevent lockjaw.

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  89. @dearieme
    "I’d love to have to live in Ireland or Sweden": good God! Choice bits of France or Italy or Britain or Germany, Austria, or Switzerland, yes. Or, for those who know more about such places, perhaps Slovenia, Spain, Portugal. Luxembourg is attractive. Bruges, Amsterdam, Prague ......

    But Sweden? Ireland? Golly.

    I lived in Dublin as a kid and I can tell you it was a fine place to live in spite of the grinding poverty. If you fit in by the looks of you and you like generally warm (not like Med style tactile warmness) and cheerful people, a rhythm to daily life, a thoroughly Catholic culture, etc. it was the place for you.

    Dublin is now fairly pozzed though, and the Homosexual “Marriage” nonsense does not bode well for the future of that tiny island nation.

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  90. @DerSohndesAllvaters
    Europe is great. I'm in East Germany between Leipzig and Dresden.

    I was recently in Dresden for a few days. Very lovely city!

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  91. lavoisier says: • Website
    @AnotherDad

    Hillary Clinton demographically disaggregated herself by moving to a mostly White town called Chappaqua, New York. Hillary Clinton does not want to live around Blacks.
     
    This was a trivially easy debate jab for Trump, that I and no doubt a bunch of folks here pointed out. When the hectoring windbag said "diversity", it should have been the first thing out of Trump's mouth.

    "Hillary loves absolutely loves diversity. When she left the White House, she convinced Bill to move to the absolutely whitest place, with the fewest blacks--less than 1% black--of any town around New York." Then broaden the point: "You see this a lot with 'diversity' spouting Democratic politicians. They preach 'diversity', 'diversity', 'diversity', but chose to live in whitetopias, gated communities. If they are actually living in a "diverse" community it's probably one that is gentrifying where more white people are moving in and the expectation is the rising prices will push the blacks out. The only "diversity" these politicians actually tolerate is having Maria the maid come in to cook, clean and maybe watch the kids.

    "When a politician says "diversity" what they mean is they want cheap labor and votes for themselves. They can live in a pricey neighborhood that screens all the unpleasant "diversity" out; you get to live next to the Somali refugees. Their motto is 'diversity for thee, but not for me.' They are frauds, hypocrites, scum."

    I really wish we'd have even a single conservative/nationalist politician who was verbally facile or even articulate. Debunking leftist/multicultural/pro-immigrant nonsense is easy--population numbers, economics, culture, environment, terrorism, crime, family-formation ... on and on--the skewers write themselves.

    ~~~
    Dead on about Flake.

    The wife saying how much she likes living in a gated community. The conservative primary attack add writes itself! Do nothing else but beat on this guy selling out the nation.

    Conservatives simply can not afford to vote for this slimy garbage--Flake, McCain, Ryan, Graham ...--running under the nominally conservative party's banner. Primary them out and if that fails vote against them.

    Should have happened but never does.

    The traitors keep getting elected and the good people of America keep on voting for the scum.

    No hope for a Republic when the voters are this stupid.

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  92. Bubba says:
    @Altai

    On point after point, America’s nonimmigrants are failing our country. …

    Because I’m the child of immigrants and grew up abroad, I have always thought of the United States as a country that belongs first to its newcomers …

    We’re a country of immigrants — by and for them, too. Americans who don’t get it should get out.
     

    Bret Stephens is such a walking alt-right meme (Arguing for his ethnic self-interests whilst trying to rationalise to take the moral high ground no matter how much he distorts reality in a way he can't ever hope to disguise) that I sometimes wonder if his parents original name wasn't Shekelberg.

    At least Kristol gets disavowed, are any prominent American Jews starting to get nervous at what Stephens writes?

    Sorry Altai!!! I meant to hit “Agree” and I can’t change it! Yes, you are definitely correct! My apologies.

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  93. Sean says:
    @yyrvjh

    Why can you not see that Brad is putting you on?
     
    Well, you're right but you're also wrong. Steve and his commenters conveniently glide over the fact, which you noticed, that Stephens intended his piece as satire, in the vein of A Modest Proposal by Jonathan Swift. They take it at face value and add it as Exhibit 15,084 in their long list of grievances against teh Jewz, who they have decided are their new overlords.

    However, it is also clear that Stephens' article utterly fails as satire. It is unfunny and if the author aimed to poke fun at the prejudices and the blinkered worldview of his segment of society -- urban, educated, upper-middle class people with 1.2 average kids per family and inordinately large influence in shaping policy and public opinion -- he needs to apprentice first with some writers who have the knack. I think (1) he just isn't a talented writer and (2) he hasn't done the work to figure out where he stands and isn't honest with himself.

    A certain measure of annoyance at America's Jews is understandable, since they feature disproportionately in this urban elite which has been imposing its will on everyone else. However, in reality Jews are still a minority even there. When it comes to open borders, other pressure groups like Big Business and the Catholic and mainline Protestant churches together with their billion-dollar "refugee" resettlement outfits wield even greater influence.

    Stephens intended his piece as satire, in the vein of A Modest Proposal by Jonathan Swift.

    No reader of it could have thought Swift saw nothing wrong with eating babies. No, Stephens was not writing in the style of any satire.

    A certain measure of annoyance at America’s Jews is understandable, since they feature disproportionately in this urban elite which has been imposing its will on everyone else.

    As the captain of the Enterprise said recently , “SJWs stand for inequality, where they are superior to any one else”.

    It is very difficult to avoid seeing Stephens as one of a breed there is no shortage of in the NYT.

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  94. whoever says: • Website
    @William Badwhite
    "If we agreed to extreme nativism where everyone had to go back to where their ancestors lived before 1500"

    Well, 1500 is pretty far back, but my earliest (traceable) ancestor to come here arrived in the 1660's. As such I consider myself a Native American and have no interest in living in a foreign land (Europe).

    Re Stephens: you know you're pretty far gone when even the WSJ can't stomach you any further.

    My European ancestors fled Germany to escape death. The Lutherans drowned them (“the third baptism”) and the Catholics burned them alive. The last thing they ever wanted to do was go back. When some of them finally did, centuries later, it was only heavily armed and with artillery and air support. One or two of them might even have muttered, after announcing “Bombs away!” payback’s a bitch, huh?
    And when the Luftwaffe saw them and their pals coming, they didn’t say, welcome home, fellow Germans, they said, Achtung… Indianer! And then they got the shit shot out of them by guys named Schiller and Zemke flying airplanes built by companies founded by guys named Wilhelm Böing and Dutch Kindelberger, good, solid Americans.
    Of course, on the other side of the world, when the Japanese got blasted out of the sky by guys named Aschenbrener and Bauer, it didn’t occur to them that they were representatives of their German allies. They were most definitely Americans.

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    Cringeworthy boomer cuck post. Muh America!
    , @William Badwhite
    There's a story (likely apocryphal) from the early 1970's about a British Airways (call sign "Speedbird") airplane on the ground in Frankfurt (famously snippy controllers) confused about where to go next after receiving rapid-fire taxiing instructions:

    Frankfurt Ground Control: "Speedbird 123, have you never been to Frankfurt before"?
    BA Captain: "I was here quite often in 1944, I just never landed".
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  95. Pericles says:
    @The King is a Fink
    Parts of Ireland are truly spectacular and the people overall are generally a nice sort. Sure, the weather is mostly terrible but when the sun comes out it like God's Own Country - an expression originally used to describe the Wicklow mountains, which are a short drive from my home. Kerry, Cork, Clare, Galway... the whole Atlantic coastline is something to see.

    Much of the liberal stupidity you see in the UK and France has not yet taken root to the same extent and the people are still mostly ethnic Irish. If there is any hope for white people in Western Europe it is Ireland.

    Let’s see how they do with a half-Indian gay prime minister and a generous refugee program.

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    You are bang on the nail there. I'm not happy about the new PM. When recently asked by someone what I though of him, I commented that I had concerns whether a half-Indian gay childless man would represent my interests and of course I got some funny looks. I am continuously amazed at how naive most people are, even well-educated ones. They implicitly trust politicians and the press and the idea that the system is rigged is beyond them.

    As for the refugees, we seem to have escaped the worst of it so far but its early days I guess.
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  96. @DerSohndesAllvaters
    Europe is great. I'm in East Germany between Leipzig and Dresden.

    I envy you.
    Dresden is beautiful once again, and it is surrounded by some of the finest monuments, both of God and man, to be found anywhere.
    And it will be forever honoured as the birthplace of Pegida.
    I expect the region to giver the AfD a good 20% of the vote in September.

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  97. J.Ross says: • Website

    There are numerous recordings of the chants and none of them say “Jews will not replace us.” Fears about Jews talk about manipulation, warmongering, and the corruption of law, always from a disproportunately tiny minority: never population replacement (except in the case of Palestinians). A lot of unquestioned received wisdom beliefs are actually just never-examined, laughably unreasonable lies from Jews: eg, the Philistines naturally had as much aesthetic culture as any of their neighbors.
    If you’re being bothered by some unqualified moron who inherited a six-figure mass media job from his relatives, and he asks you to presuppose that the Moon is the Sun, it is perfectly reasonable, and not anti-Semitic or ignorant, for you to simply stop paying attention to him at that point.

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    There are numerous recordings of the chants and none of them say “Jews will not replace us.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQrhL3ei568

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ABeRg2iTjc

    never population replacement (except in the case of Palestinians)

    I give the benefit of the doubt to the chanters that they know numbers and thus that they meant that Jews are behind the policies of replacing and not that the Jews are the replacement. Jews already replaced the elite and they have no interest of becoming the lower middle class rednecks.
    , @kaganovitch
    " A lot of unquestioned received wisdom beliefs are actually just never-examined, laughably unreasonable lies from Jews: eg, the Philistines naturally had as much aesthetic culture as any of their neighbors."

    Of course the pejorative connotation of Philistinism has absolutely nothing to do with Jews ( it dates from 17th century German university students)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philistinism

    But carry right on with "never-examined laughably unreasonable lies from Jews"
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  98. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Immigration and race mixing make perfect sense.
    WWII and Holocaust where world turned back on Jews.
    Solution was to open borders in West.
    West countries allowed attempted destruction of Jews.
    Now West is being destroyed.
    There is nothing West can do.
    West does not recognize own destruction.
    Now West culture being erased.
    Now West history being erased.
    Now West ethnic being replaced with mixed ethnic.
    Nothing West does.
    Nothing West can do.

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    Around 2800 A.D. in Tel Aviv:

    "Yes, It seems other people here earlier. Not much history about this, I'm afraid. Some remnants in the desert. Myself? Decided to come here from Beijing Metropolitan Area 20 years ago, I like the open space, Shrimp with your noodles?"
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    Was that iambic pentameter or some kind of jumbo-haiku?

    In other words, what the hell was that? This is an English language site, and they usually screen out special-ed people.
    , @FX Enderby
    I thought paid Sayanim/Hasbara trolls were required to know English? Fire this loser, Tel Aviv.
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  99. @Anon
    Aren't there quite a lot of Irish in Edinburgh?

    No.
    The Irish element is overwhelmingly in the West: Glasgow, Paisley, Motherwell, etc. The only large Irish descended population elsewhere is in Dundee, a good hours drive north of Edinburgh. Industries requiring large numbers of strong backs and weak heads is the reason.
    Edinburgh was never an industrial city: its strengths were and are law and banking.
    Probably the most beautiful city in Northern Europe, but the climate, and the people, are cold and unwelcoming.
    John Knox has much to answer for.

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  100. athEIst says:
    @Stephen Paul Foster
    Great point. I lived recently for a short time in Silver Spring MD. Twenty or thirty years ago it was a nice American suburb of DC. Its demography now resembles a nightmarish hybrid of Tijuana and Addis Ababa. Give me Dublin or Edinburgh circa 1950 and I'll go in a flash.

    Ferguson was a nice American suburb too, til about 1990.

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  101. athEIst says:
    @Mr. Anon

    I can only describe this sentiment as insanity. Nothing less (and possibly something worse).
     
    It's called "chutzpah". That the concept is best described by a yiddish word is, I am sure, purely coincidence.

    +1

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  102. JimB says:
    @DFH

    Of course, the even more paranoid antisemites will insist that the evil Hebrews secretly rule Germany, too, or that Merkel is half-Jewish or some other fevered fantasy.
     
    The Jews are responsible for the creation of the anti-racist, anti-nationalist ideology (e.g. the Frankfurt school, Franz Boas, Montagu and Gould's race denialism) and propaganda distributed throughout the world from the USA (Hollywood is obviously controlled by Jews.
    The Jews have in particular targeted the Germans for guilt about the Holocaust, chich German children are forced to cover endlessly in school.

    The initial immigration to Germany (Turkish guest-workers) was forced upon it by the USA, against the wishes of the German government at the time.

    Germany's program hunting down dissenters on social media is run by a Jew.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anetta_Kahane

    The founder of Germany's major left-wing party is a Jew, who thinks it's a good thing that 'Nazis' aren't having any more children
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJUlf2-XSZw

    Jews are also responsible for Breitbart and the Drudge Report. Perhaps what we require is a more discerning immigration system.

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  103. @dearieme
    "I’d love to have to live in Ireland or Sweden": good God! Choice bits of France or Italy or Britain or Germany, Austria, or Switzerland, yes. Or, for those who know more about such places, perhaps Slovenia, Spain, Portugal. Luxembourg is attractive. Bruges, Amsterdam, Prague ......

    But Sweden? Ireland? Golly.

    But Sweden? Ireland? Golly.

    Outside of the obvious–those are probably places Sid knows he has ancestors from–I was in Sweden a couple years back. (No known Swedish ancestors, just family touring.) Pretty nice countryside. Driving in from the airport north of Stockholm reminded me of parts around Seattle or Vancouver B.C.–more spruce instead of our Doug fir and red cedar. Drove–main highway–down to Copenhagen. Pretty country–woods, lakes, farms, fields, towns. Would be pretty much a whitetopia if not for the cancer allowed to grow in the cities.

    May not be your cup of tea, but i’m sure it feels pretty darn great to a lot of Swedes. I hope “true Swedes” will eventually stand and fight for it.

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  104. Thea says:
    @Twinkie

    Because I’m the child of immigrants and grew up abroad, I have always thought of the United States as a country that belongs first to its newcomers
     
    I can only describe this sentiment as insanity. Nothing less (and possibly something worse).

    I don't come from some sort of a "Third World hell-hole" (a term that appears popular with a certain crowd here). I did not come to the United States to escape oppression, war or poverty. My life was pretty good where I was born. Nonetheless, I am very GRATEFUL that this country and its people, by and large, have welcomed me and made me one of their own. And I have shared this sense of gratitude with my own children and have taught them to value the great gift and blessing they have inherited as native-born Americans. I suspect many older immigrants felt this way and became patriotic Americans, as I am and have been, and taught their children likewise.

    I just cannot fathom why people such as Brett Stephens are filled with such contempt and hatred ("too many people who don’t work hard...") for the native-born Americans who welcomed his parents. This is not a feeling or an attitude that a normal human being ought to have. This is some kind of mass hysteria or insanity. Rather than treasuring this country as something to cherish and protect (not just for him for his children and their progeny), he and others like him seem to view it as something to which they are entitled to despoil and share with the rest of the world as some kind of loot.

    What is the source of this derangement? When did patriotism - the love of one's country AND its people, one's fellow citizens - become "hatred" of others, something which, apparently, is to be exorcised by this crazed notion that America ought to treat citizens of other countries better than its own?

    To paraphrase Jordan Peterson, the cause is Postmodernism and its underlying lack of gratefulness

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  105. Thea says:

    Actually, the more extreme and candid Stephens is, the better.

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  106. Ragno says:
    @Achilles
    Trump now a Confederate? Come to think of it, wasn't there a chapter in Slaves of New York about how the Trump slaves would emerge from Trump Tower onto Fifth Avenue at sundown after their long and back-breaking day of work in the Trump fields to gather round and sing folk songs and hymns?

    But it does seem like just last week he was Trump the Terrible, Czar of all the Russias.

    And before that, Fuehrer Adolf Trump.

    And before that, the neocons were describing him as "Caesarist." Probably Titus, conqueror of the Jews, they had in mind.

    What's next? Did the Chinese ever cross the Jews? If so, perhaps he will be Emperor Trump Manchu next week.

    Surely there must already be articles somewhere in the neurotic Jewish media portraying Trump as Haman.

    One thing about Bret Stephens, he does not much try to disguise his extremely strong view that American policy and power should be applied to advance Jewish group interests to the exclusion of any other interest.

    At times he will offer a contention that one or the other of mass importation of cheap third world labor or off-shoring the US industrial base or applying the US military to solve the problems of Israel is in the great national interest of the American people, but not with the energy of a piece like that here.

    What’s next? Did the Chinese ever cross the Jews? If so, perhaps he will be Emperor Trump Manchu next week.

    Asians in general are a Rubik’s cube that the Tribe , thus far, cannot crack. Oh, I’m sorry: I meant “solve”.

    And it’s one of the few balms for my soul as I watch my nation and my world devolve into a global dumpster-fire that the Tribal strategy of a little song, a little dance, a little seltza down yer pants will never be given the opportunity to morph into icy triumphalist please us or die, yellow goyim editorials once they’ve oozed their way through the next set of doors marked KEEP OUT; not when tried out upon the inscrutable Orientals, who are genetically resistant to Levantine swindling and trickeration. Nor will there be any further GI Joes liberating them from the next round of death camps.

    Y’know? – it’s almost comforting, that prospect.

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  107. res says:
    @Bubba
    Sorry Altai!!! I meant to hit "Agree" and I can't change it! Yes, you are definitely correct! My apologies.

    Just wait for the timer to reset then hit Agree. That should change it.

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  108. The Bret Stephens op-ed, “Only Mass Deportation Can Save America” was half tongue in cheek… and half not. Sailer makes a great and hilarious point here.

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  109. Tacitus says:
    @Sid
    Why do people think it's such an effective insult to tell white Americans they HAVE TO GO BACK... to Europe?

    How many Americans HAVEN'T fantasized about living Europe? A couple of hillbillies?

    Really, I think one reason why white liberals love talking about how whites stole land from the Indians is that it implies they have to return to Europe. And wouldn't that be awesome?

    If we agreed to extreme nativism where everyone had to go back to where their ancestors lived before 1500, and we restored North America to the indigenous peoples, white liberals would be the biggest winners.

    Heck, I'm an American patriot, but I'd love to have to live in Ireland or Sweden. If the Muslim and African "refugees" were forced to go back where they came from so I could move in, I'd have few complaints.

    Europe is a fantastic place to visit but do you really want to live there? Do you want to sing someone else’s folk songs? Do you want your children to sing someone else’s folk songs? If your family has strong links to those lands it may be a better fit. Otherwise, Sweden will do your head in. The English speaking New World was a step up. The best country to go back to is old America. You should try to get there.

    Don’t give up on America. There’s no place like home(repeat).

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    In all seriousness, that is my view on the matter. I am very fond of Europe, but America and America alone is my country and my responsibility.

    But the greater point is: living standards in Europe, quite broadly, are around par with those in America. If African-Americans had to go back to Africa, they'd have it much worse than they do now. Ditto most Hispanics. I suppose Japanese and Korean Americans would enjoy comparable standards of living, but Chinese and Southeast Asia Americans almost certainly wouldn't.

    Europe, on the other hand, is comparably developed. Heck, I went to Budapest a few years ago, and while I wouldn't love living there, it really wouldn't be that much worse than life in the US.
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  110. utu says:
    @J.Ross
    There are numerous recordings of the chants and none of them say "Jews will not replace us." Fears about Jews talk about manipulation, warmongering, and the corruption of law, always from a disproportunately tiny minority: never population replacement (except in the case of Palestinians). A lot of unquestioned received wisdom beliefs are actually just never-examined, laughably unreasonable lies from Jews: eg, the Philistines naturally had as much aesthetic culture as any of their neighbors.
    If you're being bothered by some unqualified moron who inherited a six-figure mass media job from his relatives, and he asks you to presuppose that the Moon is the Sun, it is perfectly reasonable, and not anti-Semitic or ignorant, for you to simply stop paying attention to him at that point.

    There are numerous recordings of the chants and none of them say “Jews will not replace us.”

    never population replacement (except in the case of Palestinians)

    I give the benefit of the doubt to the chanters that they know numbers and thus that they meant that Jews are behind the policies of replacing and not that the Jews are the replacement. Jews already replaced the elite and they have no interest of becoming the lower middle class rednecks.

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    Does it bother you to depend on a forty year old Woody Allen joke for moralistic holding forth?
    How can you be sure they are not saying "Juice will not replace us," or "JuChe will not replace us," given various benefits of the doubt? Where is the benefit of the doubt that they are not saying the oft-typed and clearly spelled out phrase "you will not replace us," which was frequently clearly printed on materials leading up to the march, and which never mentioned Jews until New Yorkers wanted it to?
    This is the sort of out of scale nonsense that leads Judith Miller's cocktail party to crow about one email from one business partner using bizarrely suspicious language about electing Trump with a real estate deal.
    But it's a moot point. You lost. Nobody has time for this bizarre and empty pseudo-religious ritual any more. It's not just the internet basement dwellers, it's the whole herd you had taken for granted.
    Did I mention "The Jews"? I don't care. Am I going to be called a Nazi by people who call everyone a Nazi? I don't care. If an Israeli can fix my plumbing I am happy and grateful, and if an Israeli is fomenting avoidable war with easily-yet-never-debunked lies I am angry, and at no point in any of it was Jewishness the issue.
    , @Brutusale
    If you had the slightest inkling that the protesters meant anything other than the "puppet master Jews" sort of sentiment in their chants, your "benefit of the doubt" mechanism needs its circuits checked.
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  111. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    In our world, ‘diversity’ usually means lots of non-whites, especially blacks, Meso-Americans, Hindus, and Muslims. And usually poorer people.

    Japan is non-white, but it’s considered to be deficient in diversity.

    Nigeria is non-white and almost all black, but no one complains about lack of diversity there. So, I guess an all-black nation is ‘diverse’, like the NBA is ‘diverse’.

    The Glob narratives is contradictory.

    It says diversity is great. Okay. Lots of poor nations are diverse. So, those poor people have diversity and can use that wonder to create rich societies. No need to run from diversity. Why run from diverse Latin America, North Africa, India, Pakistan, Afghanistan(with many clans and ethnic groups), etc. They may be poor, but they got Magic Diversity, and surely they can use the magic to become rich and successful and nice. So, why isn’t diversity doing the magic there?

    Glob narrative says homogeneity, esp white kind, is awful. And yet, the richest and nicest nations were either all-white or super-majority-white. Think of Sweden, UK, Canada, Denmark, the US, and etc BEFORE the rise of PC and mass immigration. They were nice places and all white or super-majority white. Now, how did they achieve all that without diversity? Hmmmm.

    Anyway, even if homogeneity is awful, it worked… It worked in making nice societies. So, why fix something that isn’t broken? But PC said what wasn’t broken has to be fixed with ‘diversity’. It’s like saying a fire that is going nicely has to be fixed with water.
    PC is like an ideology that says water is great for fire while wood and matches are bad. So, if a society has fire with wood and matches, something is wrong, and it has to be fixed with water. And if adding water weakens the fire, surely the problem is lack of water. So, more water is poured on the fire.

    PC says diversity is great but then tells people in poor diverse nations to head for more homogeneous nations of EU, Australia, Canada, and America. But if diversity is great, why flee from diversity to whiteness?
    PC says this is doing whites a favor because whites will get to enjoy diversity with mass immigration. But whites already had nice things without diversity. So, why would they need it? Another thing. If white nations are made better by being turned into non-white majority nations, why didn’t non-whites just stay in their own nations where non-whites are already the majority?

    None of this makes any sense.

    The truth is globalists don’t see America or any nation as independent or sovereign. They see it as part and parcel of the larger world empire controlled by them. It’s like the British King insisted the 13 colonies remain as part of the empire than be a sovereign independent nation. It’s like Brits insisted India remain as the Jewel in the Crown than an independent crown in its own right. So, all nations are not their own crowns but mere jewels in the ONLY CROWN of Globalist Empire.

    And this globo-imperialist supremacism smears as ‘supremacist’ any national movement that seeks OUT of the empire and wants to put their national identity and interests first.
    To prevent that, all the peoples around the world have to be mixed-and-matched so that no people, as a solid majority, can claim their own nation as their own.

    And this is where immigration is useful. When non-whites come to the US, they not only come to defend mass immigration to the West but to their own home nations. Having become globo-Americanized, they think all the world should follow the same model. And since they prefer living in the West to their own nations, they want the passage to the west to remain open.
    Now, some Muslims are truly resentful of US-Globo imperialism in the Middle East and hate all the invasions. They want their nations to be left alone. But, when offered the free ticket of immigration, they can’t resist just like gangsters in THE GODFATHER cannot resist the dope trade. So, despite their hatred of the US-globo empire, they come to serve its agenda to gain access to the West.

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  112. Rod1963 says:
    @Steve Sailer
    All Stephens' stuff about natives having a higher crime rate than immigrants is about how African-Americans should be deported.

    I don’t think so.

    I see Juan Williams and other liberals on Fox trot out that dog when the topic of illegal immigration is brought up. They always state that the illegals are more law abiding that the natives. And they don’t mean blacks but whites.

    They really do hate us and don’t hesitate to demonize whitey every chance they get.

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  113. utu says:

    I do not think that Bret Stephens intended to write a satire. It is not even an example of chutzpah as it expresses genuine sentiments of Jewish elites so it is not really outrageous. The contempt for gentile peasants among whom they had to live in the last 2000 years remains invariant. Sometimes the peasants may have redeeming features if they are useful like the Zionist Christians. But they are aways thought of with contempt if not hatred.

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    Jews (like most everyone else) pretty much hate evangelicals. Useful idiots so easily swindled by the Scofield heresy into worshiping Jews and hating their White selves for the fake "sins" of racism/holocaust/slavery.
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  114. El Dato says:
    @The King is a Fink
    From the second article:

    So why IQ? It’s just a test built by man to emphasize what man thinks is important....
     
    It was made by a man so it must be biased. QED. I realise that no test is perfect and all have limitations but in my experience the only people who are dismissive of IQ tests are stupid people. Bit like a fat kid refusing to race in the school sportsday because they know they are going to come last.

    First, you need to know how to decide whose code is good, which is known to be biased against women.
     
    Yes, measuring the execution speed of a code snippet or algorithm is inherently biased towards women, because men built the computer. See above. QED.

    We also have racist code-analysis tools like Sonar and Coverity, and even more racist/misogynist compilers that highlight syntax, coding and typing errors even WHILE YOU LITERALLY TYPE. No-one is SAFE!

    Even worse is that coding/typing errors are detected via theorem-proving, which is the total white male supremacy ticket, with added neuro-fascism.

    WHERE WILL IT END? IN GAS CHAMBERS! GUARDED BY MALE NERDS!

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  115. El Dato says:
    @anonymous
    Immigration and race mixing make perfect sense.
    WWII and Holocaust where world turned back on Jews.
    Solution was to open borders in West.
    West countries allowed attempted destruction of Jews.
    Now West is being destroyed.
    There is nothing West can do.
    West does not recognize own destruction.
    Now West culture being erased.
    Now West history being erased.
    Now West ethnic being replaced with mixed ethnic.
    Nothing West does.
    Nothing West can do.

    Around 2800 A.D. in Tel Aviv:

    “Yes, It seems other people here earlier. Not much history about this, I’m afraid. Some remnants in the desert. Myself? Decided to come here from Beijing Metropolitan Area 20 years ago, I like the open space, Shrimp with your noodles?”

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  116. bb753 says:
    @Anon
    Aren't there quite a lot of Irish in Edinburgh?

    That would be Glasgow.

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  117. Bubba says:
    @res
    Just wait for the timer to reset then hit Agree. That should change it.

    Thanks for that advice! Just changed it and I really appreciate your help.

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  118. Hubbub says:

    Must be comforting to know that all the world’s evils can be traced to a single cause.

    Yes, it is comforting, so comforting.

    Never attribute to satire that which can be explained by malice.

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  119. @DerSohndesAllvaters
    Europe is great. I'm in East Germany between Leipzig and Dresden.

    Not near Breitenfeld, then?

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  120. @Achilles
    Trump now a Confederate? Come to think of it, wasn't there a chapter in Slaves of New York about how the Trump slaves would emerge from Trump Tower onto Fifth Avenue at sundown after their long and back-breaking day of work in the Trump fields to gather round and sing folk songs and hymns?

    But it does seem like just last week he was Trump the Terrible, Czar of all the Russias.

    And before that, Fuehrer Adolf Trump.

    And before that, the neocons were describing him as "Caesarist." Probably Titus, conqueror of the Jews, they had in mind.

    What's next? Did the Chinese ever cross the Jews? If so, perhaps he will be Emperor Trump Manchu next week.

    Surely there must already be articles somewhere in the neurotic Jewish media portraying Trump as Haman.

    One thing about Bret Stephens, he does not much try to disguise his extremely strong view that American policy and power should be applied to advance Jewish group interests to the exclusion of any other interest.

    At times he will offer a contention that one or the other of mass importation of cheap third world labor or off-shoring the US industrial base or applying the US military to solve the problems of Israel is in the great national interest of the American people, but not with the energy of a piece like that here.

    Actually, I lived in NYC around that time, and Trump slaves were a LOT happier than Leona Helmsley slaves. Holy moly, the horror stories people had about working for her!

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  121. @DFH

    Of course, the even more paranoid antisemites will insist that the evil Hebrews secretly rule Germany, too, or that Merkel is half-Jewish or some other fevered fantasy.
     
    The Jews are responsible for the creation of the anti-racist, anti-nationalist ideology (e.g. the Frankfurt school, Franz Boas, Montagu and Gould's race denialism) and propaganda distributed throughout the world from the USA (Hollywood is obviously controlled by Jews.
    The Jews have in particular targeted the Germans for guilt about the Holocaust, chich German children are forced to cover endlessly in school.

    The initial immigration to Germany (Turkish guest-workers) was forced upon it by the USA, against the wishes of the German government at the time.

    Germany's program hunting down dissenters on social media is run by a Jew.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anetta_Kahane

    The founder of Germany's major left-wing party is a Jew, who thinks it's a good thing that 'Nazis' aren't having any more children
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJUlf2-XSZw

    Jews are only 2% of USA population. How many were left in Germany after the war? If such a vanishingly tiny population can dominate and control an entire society, what does that say about said society’s fitness for self determination?

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    "...what does that say about said society’s fitness for self determination?"

    What it says is that said society evolved for itself a way of life which might have worked very well, for itself, for a while, but which was fatally vulnerable to predators & parasites.
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  122. J.Ross says: • Website
    @utu
    There are numerous recordings of the chants and none of them say “Jews will not replace us.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQrhL3ei568

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ABeRg2iTjc

    never population replacement (except in the case of Palestinians)

    I give the benefit of the doubt to the chanters that they know numbers and thus that they meant that Jews are behind the policies of replacing and not that the Jews are the replacement. Jews already replaced the elite and they have no interest of becoming the lower middle class rednecks.

    Does it bother you to depend on a forty year old Woody Allen joke for moralistic holding forth?
    How can you be sure they are not saying “Juice will not replace us,” or “JuChe will not replace us,” given various benefits of the doubt? Where is the benefit of the doubt that they are not saying the oft-typed and clearly spelled out phrase “you will not replace us,” which was frequently clearly printed on materials leading up to the march, and which never mentioned Jews until New Yorkers wanted it to?
    This is the sort of out of scale nonsense that leads Judith Miller’s cocktail party to crow about one email from one business partner using bizarrely suspicious language about electing Trump with a real estate deal.
    But it’s a moot point. You lost. Nobody has time for this bizarre and empty pseudo-religious ritual any more. It’s not just the internet basement dwellers, it’s the whole herd you had taken for granted.
    Did I mention “The Jews”? I don’t care. Am I going to be called a Nazi by people who call everyone a Nazi? I don’t care. If an Israeli can fix my plumbing I am happy and grateful, and if an Israeli is fomenting avoidable war with easily-yet-never-debunked lies I am angry, and at no point in any of it was Jewishness the issue.

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  123. I’ll say it again:

    If Bret Stephens were your self, would you want to be self-aware?

    QED.

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  124. Sid says:
    @Tacitus
    Europe is a fantastic place to visit but do you really want to live there? Do you want to sing someone else's folk songs? Do you want your children to sing someone else's folk songs? If your family has strong links to those lands it may be a better fit. Otherwise, Sweden will do your head in. The English speaking New World was a step up. The best country to go back to is old America. You should try to get there.

    Don't give up on America. There's no place like home(repeat).

    In all seriousness, that is my view on the matter. I am very fond of Europe, but America and America alone is my country and my responsibility.

    But the greater point is: living standards in Europe, quite broadly, are around par with those in America. If African-Americans had to go back to Africa, they’d have it much worse than they do now. Ditto most Hispanics. I suppose Japanese and Korean Americans would enjoy comparable standards of living, but Chinese and Southeast Asia Americans almost certainly wouldn’t.

    Europe, on the other hand, is comparably developed. Heck, I went to Budapest a few years ago, and while I wouldn’t love living there, it really wouldn’t be that much worse than life in the US.

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  125. Vinteuil says:
    @Anonymouse
    Why can you not see that Brad is putting you on?

    “Brad?” Is that what his friends call him? Are you a friend of his, familiar enough to call him “Brad?”

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  126. Marat says:
    @Bleuteaux
    My favorite piece about the hurricane so far laments that all the new development around Houston has prevented the prairie's traditional role of absorbing billions of gallons of water. No word whatsoever on the millions of new immigrants that made that development possible.

    It's really an un-covered economic story just how much of our economy absolutely requires unlimited immigration, and would come crashing to a halt if it stopped.

    What will the excuse be if the dollar/ economy fails?

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    There's already a ready made excuse. Look at Mark Dayton. It's B+ white Minnesotans not doing enough for His Majesty Gross Domestic Product. And the solution will be to import more 3rd Worlders.
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  127. Mokiki says:

    So they really do want to “replace us”?

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  128. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Anonymouse
    Why can you not see that Brad is putting you on?

    The “I was only kidding!” defense would be more defensible if they didn’t get so mad about people who are just kidding about sending people to concentration camps.

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  129. Bleuteaux says:
    @Marat
    What will the excuse be if the dollar/ economy fails?

    There’s already a ready made excuse. Look at Mark Dayton. It’s B+ white Minnesotans not doing enough for His Majesty Gross Domestic Product. And the solution will be to import more 3rd Worlders.

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    Stephens mistakenly believes it magnanimous to offer what's not his to offer. That's conversion -- Grand Conversion, in this case. His assimilation has been a complete failure.
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  130. Anonym says:
    @SMK
    The reason it "utterly fails as satire" is because it isn't satire but is utterly serious and thus beyond insanity.

    Yes, many a true word is spoken in jest. But for jest to work as jest, it can’t just be truth (or rather, serious intent).

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  131. @Anonymouse
    I didn't say it was funny or witty. I just said it was a put on which you agree with so why am I wrong?

    I didn’t say it was funny or witty. I just said it was a put on which you agree with so why am I wrong?

    Uh, because it’s not a “put on”. (We can argue, but to me a “put on” is a hoax that delivers a message that is actually different from the literal message.)

    Yes, Stephens is exaggerating for effect with the native deportation thing. He’s not arguing for that. But everyone here gets that. We’re not confused.

    Basically Stephens is saying to nationalists, to those for immigration control and specifically those for deporting illegals: “Hey old-stock natives you’re a bunch of losers, this nation belongs to its virtuous hustling immigrants (and kids … like me!) and if we’re going to deport anyone … it should be sorry asses like you!” His basic message is “nativists shut up!” That message dovetails with everything else Stevens has written on this topic. And it is delivered pretty directly with simple exaggeration for effect.

    If you want to call Stephens’ exaggeration for effect, a “put on” … fine. But it isn’t a “put on” that anyone is confused by or that changes the thrust of Stephens’ message. It is not a “put on” that obviates Sailer’s post or his commenters reactions nor makes sense of your comment. We all get the mocking exaggeration and we are all correctly interpreting how Stephens feels–his contempt.

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  132. Vinteuil says:
    @Gaslighting Hotep
    Jews are only 2% of USA population. How many were left in Germany after the war? If such a vanishingly tiny population can dominate and control an entire society, what does that say about said society's fitness for self determination?

    “…what does that say about said society’s fitness for self determination?”

    What it says is that said society evolved for itself a way of life which might have worked very well, for itself, for a while, but which was fatally vulnerable to predators & parasites.

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    What's worse is that significant fractions of Jews are politically conservative or religious and therefore avoid any left wing philosophy or activism. So the actual number of malicious Jews is a good deal smaller than 2%.

    A society that is that vulnerable is fundamentally crippled, unfit, and not really worth defending, pretty cathedrals notwithstanding.

    (Or, of course, one could read Nietzsche and realize what the true enemy of western greatness is.)
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  133. Redman says:
    @The King is a Fink
    Parts of Ireland are truly spectacular and the people overall are generally a nice sort. Sure, the weather is mostly terrible but when the sun comes out it like God's Own Country - an expression originally used to describe the Wicklow mountains, which are a short drive from my home. Kerry, Cork, Clare, Galway... the whole Atlantic coastline is something to see.

    Much of the liberal stupidity you see in the UK and France has not yet taken root to the same extent and the people are still mostly ethnic Irish. If there is any hope for white people in Western Europe it is Ireland.

    Just got back to NY from my annual summer vacation in Ireland with my Dublin wife and 2 half-Irish kids. I can attest, Ireland is a beautiful (enchanting really) location.

    I recommend the beaches of Achill Island. Some of the nicest in the world.

    That said, the news (both written and radio) has grown more depressingly leftist during the 10 years I’ve been going there. The rejection of the Catholic Church (due to the pedophilia scandals related to priests) has, I believe, created a cultural vacuum of sorts. The younger Irish are extremely pro-EU and pro-diversity. I fear Ireland will eventually go the way of the UK and will welcome the diverse with open arms.

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    Yes, Achill is spectactular, as is the Clew Bay just south of it. Its all good over there, especially the cycle paths along the coastline. Spend some time in Wicklow on your next break, you won't regret it.

    I don't bother with the MSM in Ireland anymore. About two years ago I decided on no TV, no radio, no newspapers. Now I just use the Internet, current affairs books and podcasts. This website and others were a large part of my growing awakening to how we are controlled by the press. People say to me that this is making me biased to the right because I'm not getting a balanced view. Balance!!!!? I have been brainwashed and lied to by the media my whole adult life. I don't need to read or hear any more from these people to know they hate me and everything I believe in.

    I would suggest a moral rather than a cultural vacuum. I hope the absence of any colonial-era guilt will keep Irish people proud of their heritage and not permit any of the white-shaming nonsense from the left.
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  134. Wilkey says:
    @Anon 2
    OT Austria's (former) conservative presidential candidate
    Hofer wants Austria to join the Visegrad group which currently
    comprises Poland, Czechia, Slovakia, and Hungary. This would
    make great sense: all five countries constitute the core of Central
    Europe - predominantly Catholic countries that have had centuries
    of history together, and as a result developed similar cultures.
    None of them have a colonialist past and none participated in the
    transatlantic slave trade - hence they feel no white guilt about the
    past. All of them are opposed to accepting Muslim migrants that
    Brussels (and Frau Merkel) are trying to ram down their throats.

    With a combined population of 75 million the Visegrad 5 would
    be an effective counterweight to Germany's (population: 80 million)
    autocratic shenanigans. In the economic sphere, Poland's economy
    is 3 times the size of Austria's and 4 times the size of Hungary's
    economy

    “With a combined population of 75 million the Visegrad 5 would be an effective counterweight to Germany’s.”

    It seems to me that belonging to the EU may, on balance, be a bad deal for Central & Eastern Europe. They have boatloads of native talent but none of them is individually big enough to take on the big dogs like Germany or the UK. Those countries are already so rich and well-established that they will inevitably suck a huge share of the talent away from the eastern EU countries, leaving them eternally in the dust. A trading block that excludes the West would give them a way to keep their talent at home while giving them a large enough market and labor pool to help their native industries grow larger.

    The only downside to making Austria a part of that block is that it would, given its wealth, almost inevitably become the dominant player and the other countries would still be left behind.

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    Austria has a tiny economy, only one third
    the size of Poland's economy. It would be
    very difficult for Austria to be a dominant
    nation in any grouping
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  135. @SMK
    "Don't work hard (or at all)," don't "contribute much" or anything to society but actively blight and destroy cities and neighborhoods, don't "appreciate" or loathe America and the people who created and sustain it and the "American system," "entitled," etc.? What group first comes to mind when one reads this article? But I'm sure he's not implying that blacks return to Africa.

    You say that like it’s a bad thing.

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  136. @Sid
    Why do people think it's such an effective insult to tell white Americans they HAVE TO GO BACK... to Europe?

    How many Americans HAVEN'T fantasized about living Europe? A couple of hillbillies?

    Really, I think one reason why white liberals love talking about how whites stole land from the Indians is that it implies they have to return to Europe. And wouldn't that be awesome?

    If we agreed to extreme nativism where everyone had to go back to where their ancestors lived before 1500, and we restored North America to the indigenous peoples, white liberals would be the biggest winners.

    Heck, I'm an American patriot, but I'd love to have to live in Ireland or Sweden. If the Muslim and African "refugees" were forced to go back where they came from so I could move in, I'd have few complaints.

    Realistically, we’d ALL have to move back to Africa, right?

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  137. @yyrvjh
    No one really has a 100 percent satisfying answer to your questions. It seems that mass immigration into the First World is the preferred way to keep growing global GDP, without which the whole merry-go-round comes to a crashing halt; never mind the social costs and never mind "sustainability". But in the long run, we're all dead so what the heck.

    Here on iSteve, you can count on a Jew being paraded as the culprit whenever there is a chance to do so. But in Germany, non-Jewish chancellor Merkel talks exactly the same drivel and will be returned to office next month so that she can do four more years of damage. Of course, the even more paranoid antisemites will insist that the evil Hebrews secretly rule Germany, too, or that Merkel is half-Jewish or some other fevered fantasy. Must be comforting to know that all the world's evils can be traced to a single cause.

    Here on iSteve, you can count on a Jew being paraded as the culprit whenever there is a chance to do so. But in Germany, non-Jewish chancellor Merkel talks exactly the same drivel and will be returned to office next month so that she can do four more years of damage. Of course, the even more paranoid antisemites will insist that the evil Hebrews secretly rule Germany, too, or that Merkel is half-Jewish or some other fevered fantasy. Must be comforting to know that all the world’s evils can be traced to a single cause.

    Merkel is an evil, destructive piece of work. She’s also a walking advertisement for why nations historically never had a old biddy–much less a childless one–running the joint.

    However, Merkel exists in “the current year”, a cultural and social environment where Jewish ideas and Jewish media have had tremendous influence over three generations in the post-war West. Merkel couldn’t have done the damage she’s done in the Germany of 1967, much less 1917. It’s taken all the additional indoctrination of the last 50 to induce her to do this, to stick with it–because all the good people praise it–and for “Germans” to tolerate it.

    Merkel simply points out that the problem is indeed multi-causal. But that doesn’t mean the “Jewish problem” isn’t one of the causes.

    Four or five jump out at me:
    –> Jewish minoritarianism.
    The extreme effectiveness of Jewish anti-national, “diversity” and “multicultural” propaganda. Plus lots and lots of hostile and contemptuous verbal dissembling and bullying.

    –> Feminism, female “empowerment”.
    The rising salience of anti-rational and emotional argument. Nurturing as a fine personal/familial but very bad public policy impulse. The feminization of men and knock-down of useful male protective impulses. Lots and lots of bitching, whining, emoting and lemming like devotion to approved (and insane) behavior/beliefs.

    –> The decline of Christianity.
    People have to believe … something. The religion of progressivism. Lots of cheap virtue signaling.

    –> Christianity.
    Misplaced, over baked, “love thy neighbor”ism. Lots of cucking.

    –> Puritanism (in America).
    Somewhat a corollary to the above. But specifically the radical protestant “we’re building heaven right here on earth” impulse we’ve seen from these folks from witch burning, through abolition to their Unitarian descendants SJWism. (Annoying people!)

    And, not really a causal agent like the above, but fundamental to “the crisis”:

    –> The nature of white people.
    White gentiles have evolved toward a cooperative and trusting nature. This has allowed them to build fearsome, effective nation states and breakout with the scientific and industrial revolution to both dominate the world and to create the most pleasant and prosperous societies on earth. But it also makes us rubes, easy for less-trusting, less-cooperative, less-altruistic tribals to roll. What made us great … also makes us weak. The classic setup of tragedy.

    We–white folks–need to become radically less trusting and cooperative … with other people. Save our cooperation and trust only for folks who will return it fairly. Hard on the outside … soft on the inside.

    And we need to acknowledge and address–correct–every one of the causes above. It’s a big multi-causal problem, so it requires a big multi-point solution. There is no quick fix to the disaster upon us.

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  138. Marat says:
    @Bleuteaux
    There's already a ready made excuse. Look at Mark Dayton. It's B+ white Minnesotans not doing enough for His Majesty Gross Domestic Product. And the solution will be to import more 3rd Worlders.

    Stephens mistakenly believes it magnanimous to offer what’s not his to offer. That’s conversion — Grand Conversion, in this case. His assimilation has been a complete failure.

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  139. @Charles Pewitt
    New York Times columnist Bret Stephens is an anti-White interloper of the worst sort. Bret Stephens clearly has eliminationist intentions regarding the European Christian ancestral core of the United States. Bret Stephens is a vile corporate propaganda whore who delights in the use of mass immigration as a demographic weapon to attack White Core Americans.

    Bret Stephens says this about White Core Americans:

    Because I’m the child of immigrants and grew up abroad, I have always thought of the United States as a country that belongs first to its newcomers — the people who strain hardest to become a part of it because they realize that it’s precious; and who do the most to remake it so that our ideas, and our appeal, may stay fresh.

     


    That used to be a cliché, but in the Age of Trump it needs to be explained all over again. We’re a country of immigrants — by and for them, too. Americans who don’t get it should get out.

     

    I say this about Bret Stephens:

    How sharper than a serpent's tooth it is to have a thankless Jew

     

    You would expect that Jews such as Bret Stephens would be thankful and grateful to live in a nation colonized, settled and pioneered by European Christians. But Jews such as Bret Stephens are forever full of hate against the European Christian people. Bret Stephens is an anti-White subversive who should be encouraged to move to a non-European nation. There is no reason why Bret Stephens can't move to Uganda or Israel.

    Stephen Miller is a Jew who is very proud to live in a nation colonized, settled and pioneered by European Christians. Many other Jews are grateful to the European Christian people for allowing them to continue to live amongst them.

    And Stephen Miller is hated and called a traitor by his fellow Jews.

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  140. @Chris Mallory

    The United States has too many people who don’t work hard, don’t believe in God, don’t contribute much to society and don’t appreciate the greatness of the American system.
     
    Three out of those four things he listed seem to overwhelmingly apply to his Tribe.

    4 out of 4. Unless you count fanatically advocating White genocide and funding censorship campaigns by wannabe secret police outfits like the ADL and SPLC “hard work.”

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  141. Wilkey says:

    Christianity. Misplaced, over baked, “love thy neighbor”ism. Lots of cucking.

    Well when you destroy the theology (i.e., actually believing in Christ, miracles, and so on) and the importance of adhering to the commandments (because who the hell wants to wait until marriage to get down and shag, anyhow?) all that you really have left is that touchy-feely stuff.

    Christians like to pretend they’re standing up to the cultural rot promoted by the Left when far too often they’ve been tricked into doing what the Left actually wants them to do. “See, we’re good people! We decided instead of having our own kids we decided to turn ourselves into cuckolds and import a bunch from Africa!”

    It’s not really Christianity, per se, that’s lead to this nihilism. It’s what’s left when you take most of the actual Christianity away. There are a lot of people around, in and out of the church, who believe that whether they admit it to themselves or not.

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  142. Anon 2 says:
    @Wilkey
    "With a combined population of 75 million the Visegrad 5 would be an effective counterweight to Germany’s."

    It seems to me that belonging to the EU may, on balance, be a bad deal for Central & Eastern Europe. They have boatloads of native talent but none of them is individually big enough to take on the big dogs like Germany or the UK. Those countries are already so rich and well-established that they will inevitably suck a huge share of the talent away from the eastern EU countries, leaving them eternally in the dust. A trading block that excludes the West would give them a way to keep their talent at home while giving them a large enough market and labor pool to help their native industries grow larger.

    The only downside to making Austria a part of that block is that it would, given its wealth, almost inevitably become the dominant player and the other countries would still be left behind.

    Austria has a tiny economy, only one third
    the size of Poland’s economy. It would be
    very difficult for Austria to be a dominant
    nation in any grouping

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    Moreover, Austria is a mature economy with GDP (PPP)
    per capita of about $48,000 but the growth rate of only
    1.6% (2016). Czechia and Poland have GDP (PPP) per capita
    of about $33,000 and $30,000, respectively but their economies
    are growing very rapidly (e.g., Poland's economy is growing at the
    rate of 3.7% in 2017), so they are expected very soon to catch up
    to Austria in per capita rankings. Hence, the potential Visegrad 5
    grouping would be a grouping of virtual equals. Lithuania may also
    want to join since traditionally Lithuania had been aligned with
    Poland, and Lithuania is also Catholic like the rest of the Visegrad
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  143. @Bill

    No one really has a 100 percent satisfying answer to your questions . . . Here on iSteve, you can count on a Jew being paraded as the culprit whenever there is a chance to do so.
     
    The thing to think about here is: how is it possible for yyrvjh to react to Bret Stephens's atrocious behavior by bitching about anti-semitism? Is yyrvjh's behavior any different from Bret Stephens's, or does it display the same fault?

    Same unhinged Jewish lunacy. Wacko Jew just has to defend Bret Stephens like the ADL had to defend Leo Frank. Keep it up, Yids. You’ll soon see. Us Whites can be ethnocentric too.

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  144. Well trod ground, but it really leaps out with this Bret Stephens thing:

    How can Jews possibly think this is going to work out well?

    Jews are supposed to be smart. And they are smart–it’s we 10 points dumber gentiles who are really getting rolled here. But Jews seem to have let their hyper-tribalism and seething resentments get the better of them.

    No middle man minority has every been treated better by a host population–not a prince, but by the actual population–than Jews have been treated by American Protestants. Basically WASP Americans let them roll in, compete and take over. But Jews nonetheless find trivial shit to bitch about–the Golfocaust and Ivy League colleges quotaing hardcharging Jews to only 10x over-representation … the horror! (Jewish country clubs still exist in the current year and the Jewish run Ivy League seems to quota hardcharging Asians to 4x over-represenation … but hey … anti-semitism!)

    Jews clawed their way to the top of the richest and most powerful nation while the prots graciously stepped aside, and yet … the Jews want to blow it up! Turn it from a ridiculously prosperous patch of the West to a globo-slum. Yeah, the Jews will likely be at the top of a US that looks like Brazil, but that’s much less lucrative than being on top of a US that looked like the US!

    And the people they are indeed “replacing” us with, compared to white gentiles …
    – Latins more anti-semitic
    – Blacks way more anti-semitic
    – Asians (needed to replace whites for nuts and bolts “value creation”) don’t give a shit about Jews and don’t respect Western Christian pieties. (“This is library.”)
    – And Moslems … LOL.

    Furthermore, the inevable result of this continual immivasion is likely to be Asians–grinding away–pushing a lot of Jews aside in a lot of elite sinecures, and/or quotas to secure political/social piece. You could end up with reservation protests/riots like in India, where upcast groups found their dominant position being politically deprecated. In India this was baked into history. In America only black AA–small potatoes–was baked in, the Jews chose to have the rest.

    I guess this is what steeping yourself in your own mythology does to one. Jews have a narrative of endless “oppression”–i.e. being richer and having a much greater population expansion than white gentiles. The entirely normal human situation of not being liked by people around you that you keep yourself separate from, take advantage of commercially and treat with contempt as your inferiors … makes them bad people and their reaction and inevitable community friction and violence “anti-semitism”. And in the end your resentments are more powerful than your IQ.

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  145. @Bill

    People who hate themselves can’t stand people who love them, and Jewish culture has internalized a lot of self-hatred over the centuries.
     
    Self-hating Jews are a regular trope of Jewish culture. Sort of like introspective, educated black physicists are a regular trope of Jewish culture.

    And genius Black kids suffering from low self esteem.

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  146. @anonymous
    Immigration and race mixing make perfect sense.
    WWII and Holocaust where world turned back on Jews.
    Solution was to open borders in West.
    West countries allowed attempted destruction of Jews.
    Now West is being destroyed.
    There is nothing West can do.
    West does not recognize own destruction.
    Now West culture being erased.
    Now West history being erased.
    Now West ethnic being replaced with mixed ethnic.
    Nothing West does.
    Nothing West can do.

    Was that iambic pentameter or some kind of jumbo-haiku?

    In other words, what the hell was that? This is an English language site, and they usually screen out special-ed people.

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    ... they usually screen out special-ed people.
     
    I just saw this post up here and realized how rude that last part was. I was not very inclusive.

    Please forgive me, I meant special-ed students AND teachers.
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  147. Moses says:
    @Twinkie

    Because I’m the child of immigrants and grew up abroad, I have always thought of the United States as a country that belongs first to its newcomers
     
    I can only describe this sentiment as insanity. Nothing less (and possibly something worse).

    I don't come from some sort of a "Third World hell-hole" (a term that appears popular with a certain crowd here). I did not come to the United States to escape oppression, war or poverty. My life was pretty good where I was born. Nonetheless, I am very GRATEFUL that this country and its people, by and large, have welcomed me and made me one of their own. And I have shared this sense of gratitude with my own children and have taught them to value the great gift and blessing they have inherited as native-born Americans. I suspect many older immigrants felt this way and became patriotic Americans, as I am and have been, and taught their children likewise.

    I just cannot fathom why people such as Brett Stephens are filled with such contempt and hatred ("too many people who don’t work hard...") for the native-born Americans who welcomed his parents. This is not a feeling or an attitude that a normal human being ought to have. This is some kind of mass hysteria or insanity. Rather than treasuring this country as something to cherish and protect (not just for him for his children and their progeny), he and others like him seem to view it as something to which they are entitled to despoil and share with the rest of the world as some kind of loot.

    What is the source of this derangement? When did patriotism - the love of one's country AND its people, one's fellow citizens - become "hatred" of others, something which, apparently, is to be exorcised by this crazed notion that America ought to treat citizens of other countries better than its own?

    I just cannot fathom why people such as Brett Stephens are filled with such contempt and hatred (“too many people who don’t work hard…”) for the native-born Americans who welcomed his parents.

    Because it’s good for the Jews?

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    Yeah, don't think it is.

    More likely the same reason mediocre WASPs are into the same nonsense.

    Well-earned status anxiety.
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  148. Anon 2 says:
    @Anon 2
    Austria has a tiny economy, only one third
    the size of Poland's economy. It would be
    very difficult for Austria to be a dominant
    nation in any grouping

    Moreover, Austria is a mature economy with GDP (PPP)
    per capita of about $48,000 but the growth rate of only
    1.6% (2016). Czechia and Poland have GDP (PPP) per capita
    of about $33,000 and $30,000, respectively but their economies
    are growing very rapidly (e.g., Poland’s economy is growing at the
    rate of 3.7% in 2017), so they are expected very soon to catch up
    to Austria in per capita rankings. Hence, the potential Visegrad 5
    grouping would be a grouping of virtual equals. Lithuania may also
    want to join since traditionally Lithuania had been aligned with
    Poland, and Lithuania is also Catholic like the rest of the Visegrad
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  149. Anon 2 says:
    @Herzog
    If anything, the "self-serving machinations of Germany" only serve the interests of its Deep State quote-unquote elite, but certainly not those of the ordinary (i.e. ethnic German) citizens of the country. One of the latter speaking here.

    Yes, I used the word “Germany” as shorthand
    for the ruling elites who, alas, don’t have the best
    interests of the citizenry in mind. Unfortunately,
    the same situation prevails here in the U.S.

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  150. Anonym says:
    @The Z Blog
    There's an element of Jewish triumphalism that probably needs to be addressed by Jews. This is another example of it. Here is an example from The Forward.

    This smug, sneering contempt for whites by guys like Stephens is very bad for Jews. High IQ, money and solidarity cannot overcome a 40-to-1 numerical advantage. At least not forever. American has been great for Jews and they need to preserve it.

    I touched on this a little today. Alt-Jew http://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=11355

    I like what you’ve written and think it’s the way forward. It was interesting to read the following which someone linked on your site, maybe not surprising but interesting.

    https://archive.is/u9rS9

    I get the feeling that there is more of this realisation that you refer in your comment going on, it’s a growing thing. Maybe that’s demographics, maybe it’s awareness, I’m not sure.

    It seems that a lot of the drive for Jews acting the way they have stems from a religious base, which is hard to change but maybe you can do it, who knows. In the modern era, things are approached more scientifically. We engineer things. We modify things. We institute a version 2.0, 2.1, 3.0, 3.1… x.n, and continuously make it better rather than slavishly follow a formula that was crafted many centuries ago. We look at what works, why it works, and then use that knowledge to improve things. There are plenty of Jews who are accustomed to this way of thinking, like Brin and Page and many others.

    I am not sure how Judaism adapts. If we look at Islam, there was a lot of adaptation but it occurred solely within the life of the founder, after which the evolution basically halted except for matters of tactics (e.g. using the AK-47 and the bomb instead of the scimitar). I know in Judaism there has been a lot of discussion about what Jews can and should do, but it is more in a lawyerly fashion related to religion, incorporating both spiritual matters and maybe to some extent what would be good for Jews, rather than a practical, engineering fashion.

    Like gentiles, Jews are distributed on a bell curve with IQ and a lot of the smartest probably don’t believe in a God per se and are more religious in the sense of “How do I bring about what’s good for the Jews”.

    Realistically if you are going to effectively partner with a race of people, white people are a natural fit. We make functioning societies that are the world’s best to live in. Time and time again we see evidence of that on this very blog. There is a limit to the amount of s*** we will take, but that’s manageable. We are a pretty well proven host people for Jews – it makes more sense to me to extend the purview of whites as that was working very well, rather than to see us as the New Canaanites marked for extinction, extinction through miscegenation and slavery.

    Not directing this at you btw. Even the idea of extinction through miscegenation reaches natural limits. You run out of people willing to outbreed, for one. The remnant is more ethnocentric, more conscientious. The mixed people are mixed with various others with I would say, largely worse traits for living amongst. Either more criminal, less altruistic, more corrupt, more ethnocentric, or a better competitor for the Jewish niche. And the mixed people will have those traits more than the previous white race. The “limit” of what they will put up with may be less also, even if they are less inclined for unity.

    The other thing that naturally happens as you turn the screws on whites is that in the balkanization, you get the other races in their unalloyed selves. Is that what is really wanted?

    Harking back to my search for “why?”, the realization is that possibly a lot of this came directly from Karl Marx. The “cultural Marxism” of PC is probably a clue. A reasonable amount of anti-whitism is anti-white family, which can be laid directly at the feet of Marx. Marx in a way created another religion made up of ethnic Jews, or an ideology that largely supplanted Judaism is seems.

    http://thefederalist.com/2015/06/29/americans-buy-into-marxist-family-planning/

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  151. @whoever
    My European ancestors fled Germany to escape death. The Lutherans drowned them ("the third baptism") and the Catholics burned them alive. The last thing they ever wanted to do was go back. When some of them finally did, centuries later, it was only heavily armed and with artillery and air support. One or two of them might even have muttered, after announcing "Bombs away!" payback's a bitch, huh?
    And when the Luftwaffe saw them and their pals coming, they didn't say, welcome home, fellow Germans, they said, Achtung... Indianer! And then they got the shit shot out of them by guys named Schiller and Zemke flying airplanes built by companies founded by guys named Wilhelm Böing and Dutch Kindelberger, good, solid Americans.
    Of course, on the other side of the world, when the Japanese got blasted out of the sky by guys named Aschenbrener and Bauer, it didn't occur to them that they were representatives of their German allies. They were most definitely Americans.

    Cringeworthy boomer cuck post. Muh America!

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  152. @anonymous
    Immigration and race mixing make perfect sense.
    WWII and Holocaust where world turned back on Jews.
    Solution was to open borders in West.
    West countries allowed attempted destruction of Jews.
    Now West is being destroyed.
    There is nothing West can do.
    West does not recognize own destruction.
    Now West culture being erased.
    Now West history being erased.
    Now West ethnic being replaced with mixed ethnic.
    Nothing West does.
    Nothing West can do.

    I thought paid Sayanim/Hasbara trolls were required to know English? Fire this loser, Tel Aviv.

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  153. @utu
    I do not think that Bret Stephens intended to write a satire. It is not even an example of chutzpah as it expresses genuine sentiments of Jewish elites so it is not really outrageous. The contempt for gentile peasants among whom they had to live in the last 2000 years remains invariant. Sometimes the peasants may have redeeming features if they are useful like the Zionist Christians. But they are aways thought of with contempt if not hatred.

    Jews (like most everyone else) pretty much hate evangelicals. Useful idiots so easily swindled by the Scofield heresy into worshiping Jews and hating their White selves for the fake “sins” of racism/holocaust/slavery.

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  154. @Moses

    I just cannot fathom why people such as Brett Stephens are filled with such contempt and hatred (“too many people who don’t work hard…”) for the native-born Americans who welcomed his parents.
     
    Because it's good for the Jews?

    Yeah, don’t think it is.

    More likely the same reason mediocre WASPs are into the same nonsense.

    Well-earned status anxiety.

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    Maybe YOU don't think it is good for the Jews. But do the Jews think it's good for the Jews? That's the question.

    My understanding is that Jewish interests were instrumental in pushing the 1965 immigration act in part to keep the USA doors open to the Jewish diaspora in case another 1933 Germany occurred.

    Oh, wait -- it's *always* 1933 Germany.
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  155. Eagle Eye says:
    @Chrisnonymous
    Something about this guy strikes me as disingenuous.

    Something about this guy strikes me as disingenuous.

    Stephens has found paying patrons whom he serves faithfully.

    He is married to Corinna da Fonseca-Wollheim, a music critic who writes for The New York Times. … He was previously married to Pamela Paul, the editor of The New York Times Book Review.

    Awkward …

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  156. Let’s unpack the baggage. A Nazi was a National Socialist; the way the German’s use “nation”, race based socialism.

    Now the KKK. It had two phases, one in the 19th century and one in the 20th century. The first had its own justifications; but the second was a reaction to the horror of WWI.
    The American people angry that we were roped into this war; anger which the foundation of the Mid-Western base of the 20th Century KKK. The international banking and arms industires were correctly seen a financial beneficaries of this disaster. Surprise Stephens, Cohen and Levine many of these were the chosen people. Sold or loaned to both sides, and a lot of people died (if I may). The KKK was dumb, but correct. Tangentially the reaction to Woodie Wilson’s war was America First.

    We sometimes hear that its immigration that supports GDP growth. So GDP growth under Obama was 2% from which we have to subtract population growth, can I use 1%? Then subtract something for various marco trends and measurement bias. Don’t those complaints about being replaced have some basis? Answer me Mr. Cohen.

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  157. @Mr. Anon

    I can only describe this sentiment as insanity. Nothing less (and possibly something worse).
     
    It's called "chutzpah". That the concept is best described by a yiddish word is, I am sure, purely coincidence.

    It’s actually an Aramaic word fwiw.

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    It’s actually an Aramaic word fwiw.
     
    Yes, I saw that too when I googled it. But it came into English through Yiddish, a living language, whereas Aramaic is an ancient and dead language. It is a yiddish word now.
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  158. @Dr. X

    “Surely there must already be articles somewhere in the neurotic Jewish media portraying Trump as Haman.”

    Been there done that.
     
    It's a rather sobering analogy, because if you read the Book of Esther, the Jews claim divine sanction to usurp the throne, murder Haman and his ten sons, and then kill 75,000 of their enemies with the blessing of the Persian king they co-opted through the trickery of Mordecai and Esther.

    Pretty frightening stuff, really...

    What usurping of the throne are you referring to? There is no divine sanction claimed in the Book of Esther (There is famously no mention of God at all in Esther). You think they would have been on firmer moral ground if they just let Haman’s plan run it’s course and permitted themselves to be exterminated?

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  159. @J.Ross
    There are numerous recordings of the chants and none of them say "Jews will not replace us." Fears about Jews talk about manipulation, warmongering, and the corruption of law, always from a disproportunately tiny minority: never population replacement (except in the case of Palestinians). A lot of unquestioned received wisdom beliefs are actually just never-examined, laughably unreasonable lies from Jews: eg, the Philistines naturally had as much aesthetic culture as any of their neighbors.
    If you're being bothered by some unqualified moron who inherited a six-figure mass media job from his relatives, and he asks you to presuppose that the Moon is the Sun, it is perfectly reasonable, and not anti-Semitic or ignorant, for you to simply stop paying attention to him at that point.

    ” A lot of unquestioned received wisdom beliefs are actually just never-examined, laughably unreasonable lies from Jews: eg, the Philistines naturally had as much aesthetic culture as any of their neighbors.”

    Of course the pejorative connotation of Philistinism has absolutely nothing to do with Jews ( it dates from 17th century German university students)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philistinism

    But carry right on with “never-examined laughably unreasonable lies from Jews”

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  160. FPD72 says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    Dad,

    Wouldn't be great to have a situation like in the Steve Martin movie (original story from an older movie or book) where the handsome guy - in this case the well-known guy - has you to put the words in this mouth? I always think of great comebacks that really illustrate the BS. Granted, it is after the fact sometimes. One could say that it's not easy to come up with this stuff right on the fly, but a) lots of people can indeed, because they have much of this policy and history stuff in their heads and b) even if not, that's what all those advisers and debate coaches are all for - get some of these wise-ass AND true comebacks in the front of Trump's head he's ready. This guy is not stupid, but he's not articulate either.

    As far as your last part about primarying out the Senatorial gigolos, I responded to a commenter named Liberal hypocrisy under the "Immigriping" iSteve post as follows:


    As for those 3 gigolo US Senators, lazy people can’t be bothered to get out of their routines once every 6 years to make this primary vote. The shame of it is that if just the real conservatives came out to give support to, and vote for, a primary challenger, they’d have a lot of pull because the normal establishment gigolos won’t get a lot of people coming out either.
     
    L.H. wrote particularly about McCain, Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, and Ms. Lindsey Grahmnesty ($20/hr - SC).


    *** OK, 4 Senatorial gigolos, but I don't want to change the quote of my other comment which is set in stone pixels already.

    Although not required by the Constitution to be a member of the House, the tradition is that Speakers of the House are. The current Speaker keeps with that tradition; Paul Ryan is not a Senator.

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    I didn't remember that tidbit (your 1st sentence) - interesting though. However, I just screwed up lumping Ryan in with the senators. I do realize he's speaker of the House, so I was not thinking about it when I lumped the 4 gigolos together. You can be a whore for the donors in the House too, as we all must have seen.

    As far as the main point about primarying these guys, most of us have read about the small businessman/entrepreneur who ran against Ryan. I don't know if it was lack turnout there in that Madison/Janesville district or more like not enough real conservatives to turn out.

    Thanks for the correction FPD - '72
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  161. @The King is a Fink
    From the second article:

    So why IQ? It’s just a test built by man to emphasize what man thinks is important....
     
    It was made by a man so it must be biased. QED. I realise that no test is perfect and all have limitations but in my experience the only people who are dismissive of IQ tests are stupid people. Bit like a fat kid refusing to race in the school sportsday because they know they are going to come last.

    First, you need to know how to decide whose code is good, which is known to be biased against women.
     
    Yes, measuring the execution speed of a code snippet or algorithm is inherently biased towards women, because men built the computer. See above. QED.

    To use PTT’s meme, you can’t climb this Everest of stupid as a lowly amateur, it requires the assistance of professional Sherpas.

    O’Neil is positioning herself as the Math Sherpa for SJW. The idea is that if enough scary (imaginary) technical-sounding “ethical issues” can be raised, momentum can be raised for regulation that would create a new parasitic industry of algorithm auditing. The rent-seeking endgame is arbitrage between the statistical reality detected by fair algorithms, and the impossible dream of equal results, with the Algorithmic Diversity Enforcer as a middleman who gets paid a cut for certifying fairness after suitably degrading the performance of the formula.

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  162. @MarcB.
    "Rather than treasuring this country as something to cherish and protect (not just for him for his children and their progeny), he and others like him seem to view it as something to which they are entitled to despoil and share with the rest of the world as some kind of loot".

    Those of us who are not the descendants of the trailblazers who settled North America owe deference to the values of the great men who came before us. Since there is nothing in this nations founding documents stating that this country is open to all who can somehow manage to arrive, we properly show respect for their sacrifice by adhering to immigration and border protection policies in line with their desires as best as can be determined. Anything else is a betrayal to those who allowed our families entry.

    I remember when people from the US who conducted themselves abroad as Brett Stephens is advocating behaving here were traditionally considered gauche, ugly Americans by lefty sophisticates (when in Rome...). He's beneath a traitor, because at least a traitor has a land and people to betray. Brett appears to have no tangible connection to anything or anybody.

    “Brett appears to have no tangible connection to anything or anybody.”

    Rootless cosmopolitan somes it up best.

    The struggle between the people and the hatred amongst them is being nurtured by very specific interested parties. It is a small, rootless, international clique that is turning the people against each other, that does not want them to have peace … It is the people who are at home both nowhere and everywhere, who do not have anywhere a soil on which they have grown up, but who live in Berlin today, in Brussels tomorrow, Paris the day after that, and then again in Prague or Vienna or London, and who feel at home everywhere. [Man in audience shouts 'The Jews!'] They are the only ones who can be addressed as international, because they conduct their business everywhere, but the people cannot follow them.’

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  163. Moses says:
    @Desiderius
    Yeah, don't think it is.

    More likely the same reason mediocre WASPs are into the same nonsense.

    Well-earned status anxiety.

    Maybe YOU don’t think it is good for the Jews. But do the Jews think it’s good for the Jews? That’s the question.

    My understanding is that Jewish interests were instrumental in pushing the 1965 immigration act in part to keep the USA doors open to the Jewish diaspora in case another 1933 Germany occurred.

    Oh, wait — it’s *always* 1933 Germany.

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  164. @Pericles
    Let's see how they do with a half-Indian gay prime minister and a generous refugee program.

    You are bang on the nail there. I’m not happy about the new PM. When recently asked by someone what I though of him, I commented that I had concerns whether a half-Indian gay childless man would represent my interests and of course I got some funny looks. I am continuously amazed at how naive most people are, even well-educated ones. They implicitly trust politicians and the press and the idea that the system is rigged is beyond them.

    As for the refugees, we seem to have escaped the worst of it so far but its early days I guess.

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  165. @Redman
    Just got back to NY from my annual summer vacation in Ireland with my Dublin wife and 2 half-Irish kids. I can attest, Ireland is a beautiful (enchanting really) location.

    I recommend the beaches of Achill Island. Some of the nicest in the world.

    That said, the news (both written and radio) has grown more depressingly leftist during the 10 years I've been going there. The rejection of the Catholic Church (due to the pedophilia scandals related to priests) has, I believe, created a cultural vacuum of sorts. The younger Irish are extremely pro-EU and pro-diversity. I fear Ireland will eventually go the way of the UK and will welcome the diverse with open arms.

    Yes, Achill is spectactular, as is the Clew Bay just south of it. Its all good over there, especially the cycle paths along the coastline. Spend some time in Wicklow on your next break, you won’t regret it.

    I don’t bother with the MSM in Ireland anymore. About two years ago I decided on no TV, no radio, no newspapers. Now I just use the Internet, current affairs books and podcasts. This website and others were a large part of my growing awakening to how we are controlled by the press. People say to me that this is making me biased to the right because I’m not getting a balanced view. Balance!!!!? I have been brainwashed and lied to by the media my whole adult life. I don’t need to read or hear any more from these people to know they hate me and everything I believe in.

    I would suggest a moral rather than a cultural vacuum. I hope the absence of any colonial-era guilt will keep Irish people proud of their heritage and not permit any of the white-shaming nonsense from the left.

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  166. nemo says:
    @Anon 2
    Austria with only 10 million people is too small
    to dominate the possible Visegrad 5. Poland is
    by far the largest country in the group. There
    are people in Poland who are advocating the return
    of monarchy, and the Polish aristocracy that has been
    scattered around the world by WW I and WW II, is slowly
    returning and restoring their castles and palaces.

    But seriously, empires are so 19th century. Nobody wants
    to dominate anybody else within the Visegrad Group but
    having a strong entity within Central Europe that's able
    to stand up to the self-serving machinations by Germany
    and Russia makes good geopolitical sense.

    As an Austrian I’d love a resurgence of the double eagle.

    But under the Hungarians or Poles please – our own elites are soy that the American soft empire somehow taught to walk, with possible exception of young Kurz who seems quite down with Visegrad.

    Hofer is OK, but FPÖ is shit in general BTW – they’re socialist nationalists and why even protect your nation if it’s only so that you can degenerate in peace?

    BTW the current Habsburg head is a bit of a pathetic figure, too. Think Prince Charles, not Otto (who himself never understood the satanic nature of Brussels, natch, a generational thing). Without primogeniture, his younger brother is pretty good (and coincidentally (?) in Hungary, not over here).

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  167. @FPD72
    Although not required by the Constitution to be a member of the House, the tradition is that Speakers of the House are. The current Speaker keeps with that tradition; Paul Ryan is not a Senator.

    I didn’t remember that tidbit (your 1st sentence) – interesting though. However, I just screwed up lumping Ryan in with the senators. I do realize he’s speaker of the House, so I was not thinking about it when I lumped the 4 gigolos together. You can be a whore for the donors in the House too, as we all must have seen.

    As far as the main point about primarying these guys, most of us have read about the small businessman/entrepreneur who ran against Ryan. I don’t know if it was lack turnout there in that Madison/Janesville district or more like not enough real conservatives to turn out.

    Thanks for the correction FPD – ’72

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  168. @Achmed E. Newman
    Was that iambic pentameter or some kind of jumbo-haiku?

    In other words, what the hell was that? This is an English language site, and they usually screen out special-ed people.

    … they usually screen out special-ed people.

    I just saw this post up here and realized how rude that last part was. I was not very inclusive.

    Please forgive me, I meant special-ed students AND teachers.

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  169. Mr. Anon says:
    @kaganovitch
    It's actually an Aramaic word fwiw.

    It’s actually an Aramaic word fwiw.

    Yes, I saw that too when I googled it. But it came into English through Yiddish, a living language, whereas Aramaic is an ancient and dead language. It is a yiddish word now.

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  170. “But it came into English through Yiddish, a living language, whereas Aramaic is an ancient and dead language. ”

    As a semi-pro Talmudist, I take exception to this ” Aramaic is a dead language ” business. :-) In all seriousness there are around as many Aramaic speakers as Yiddish speakers alive today.

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  171. @Vinteuil
    "...what does that say about said society’s fitness for self determination?"

    What it says is that said society evolved for itself a way of life which might have worked very well, for itself, for a while, but which was fatally vulnerable to predators & parasites.

    What’s worse is that significant fractions of Jews are politically conservative or religious and therefore avoid any left wing philosophy or activism. So the actual number of malicious Jews is a good deal smaller than 2%.

    A society that is that vulnerable is fundamentally crippled, unfit, and not really worth defending, pretty cathedrals notwithstanding.

    (Or, of course, one could read Nietzsche and realize what the true enemy of western greatness is.)

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  172. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @AnotherDad

    Hillary Clinton demographically disaggregated herself by moving to a mostly White town called Chappaqua, New York. Hillary Clinton does not want to live around Blacks.
     
    This was a trivially easy debate jab for Trump, that I and no doubt a bunch of folks here pointed out. When the hectoring windbag said "diversity", it should have been the first thing out of Trump's mouth.

    "Hillary loves absolutely loves diversity. When she left the White House, she convinced Bill to move to the absolutely whitest place, with the fewest blacks--less than 1% black--of any town around New York." Then broaden the point: "You see this a lot with 'diversity' spouting Democratic politicians. They preach 'diversity', 'diversity', 'diversity', but chose to live in whitetopias, gated communities. If they are actually living in a "diverse" community it's probably one that is gentrifying where more white people are moving in and the expectation is the rising prices will push the blacks out. The only "diversity" these politicians actually tolerate is having Maria the maid come in to cook, clean and maybe watch the kids.

    "When a politician says "diversity" what they mean is they want cheap labor and votes for themselves. They can live in a pricey neighborhood that screens all the unpleasant "diversity" out; you get to live next to the Somali refugees. Their motto is 'diversity for thee, but not for me.' They are frauds, hypocrites, scum."

    I really wish we'd have even a single conservative/nationalist politician who was verbally facile or even articulate. Debunking leftist/multicultural/pro-immigrant nonsense is easy--population numbers, economics, culture, environment, terrorism, crime, family-formation ... on and on--the skewers write themselves.

    ~~~
    Dead on about Flake.

    The wife saying how much she likes living in a gated community. The conservative primary attack add writes itself! Do nothing else but beat on this guy selling out the nation.

    Conservatives simply can not afford to vote for this slimy garbage--Flake, McCain, Ryan, Graham ...--running under the nominally conservative party's banner. Primary them out and if that fails vote against them.

    Diversity for thee, but not for me (or we EUrocrats).

    http://www.politico.eu/article/european-schools-european-problems/

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  173. Hibernian says:
    @dearieme
    "I’d love to have to live in Ireland or Sweden": good God! Choice bits of France or Italy or Britain or Germany, Austria, or Switzerland, yes. Or, for those who know more about such places, perhaps Slovenia, Spain, Portugal. Luxembourg is attractive. Bruges, Amsterdam, Prague ......

    But Sweden? Ireland? Golly.

    To each his or her own. From what I’ve heard, most Swedes would return the compliment. Not to mention us Irish.

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  174. Brutusale says:
    @utu
    There are numerous recordings of the chants and none of them say “Jews will not replace us.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQrhL3ei568

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ABeRg2iTjc

    never population replacement (except in the case of Palestinians)

    I give the benefit of the doubt to the chanters that they know numbers and thus that they meant that Jews are behind the policies of replacing and not that the Jews are the replacement. Jews already replaced the elite and they have no interest of becoming the lower middle class rednecks.

    If you had the slightest inkling that the protesters meant anything other than the “puppet master Jews” sort of sentiment in their chants, your “benefit of the doubt” mechanism needs its circuits checked.

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  175. @whoever
    My European ancestors fled Germany to escape death. The Lutherans drowned them ("the third baptism") and the Catholics burned them alive. The last thing they ever wanted to do was go back. When some of them finally did, centuries later, it was only heavily armed and with artillery and air support. One or two of them might even have muttered, after announcing "Bombs away!" payback's a bitch, huh?
    And when the Luftwaffe saw them and their pals coming, they didn't say, welcome home, fellow Germans, they said, Achtung... Indianer! And then they got the shit shot out of them by guys named Schiller and Zemke flying airplanes built by companies founded by guys named Wilhelm Böing and Dutch Kindelberger, good, solid Americans.
    Of course, on the other side of the world, when the Japanese got blasted out of the sky by guys named Aschenbrener and Bauer, it didn't occur to them that they were representatives of their German allies. They were most definitely Americans.

    There’s a story (likely apocryphal) from the early 1970′s about a British Airways (call sign “Speedbird”) airplane on the ground in Frankfurt (famously snippy controllers) confused about where to go next after receiving rapid-fire taxiing instructions:

    Frankfurt Ground Control: “Speedbird 123, have you never been to Frankfurt before”?
    BA Captain: “I was here quite often in 1944, I just never landed”.

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  176. Svigor says:

    What’s worse is that significant fractions of Jews are politically conservative or religious and therefore avoid any left wing philosophy or activism. So the actual number of malicious Jews is a good deal smaller than 2%.

    A society that is that vulnerable is fundamentally crippled, unfit, and not really worth defending, pretty cathedrals notwithstanding.

    Racism and antisemitism will patch this vulnerability nicely.

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