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Recently, a Yahoo Answers question has gotten quite a lot of attention:

How to get a haircut similar to Joseph Stalin without showing the girl who cuts my hair a picture of Joseph Stalin?

You have to admit that the Young Stalin Haircut is pretty great, especially in the (heavily retouched) front view.

But, from “19 Photos of World Leaders When They Were Younger,” what about the Young Nixon Haircut?

On the other hand, I don’t think too many guys will be asking for the Young Putin Haircut:

 
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  1. Re the Obama photo: So he was not born in Kenya, but in Latin America?

  2. The DNC’s proof that Putin is the new Hitler.

  3. Are we to believe that girls who cut hair will recognize a photo of the young Stalin?

    • Agree: Ivy, eah
    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Kylie, You are absolutely correct, she probably wouldn't recognize any photo of Stalin. Just tell her it's a photo of your Grandpa Stash. Hell. tell her it's Bernie Sanders when he was young.
    , @Frau Katze
    I doubt many people at all would look at that photo and think "Joseph Stalin."

    I have seen several photos of Josib Djugashvilli (as he was known then, spellings vary) but none made enough of an impression that I would have recognized the him in those photos.

    In addition, I think a man would have to have thick, slightly wavy hair to get the same effect. Putin's hair is thin and poker straight.
  4. Some interesting photos there.

    Putin has a prototypical Russian face, that photo of his younger self really highlights it. Pope Francis on the other hand has a serious case of gayface.

    • Replies: @Sean
    I would mention the 'stroke you like a kitten' incident but the last person who talked about that got poisoned with (several million dollars worth of) Polonium.
  5. the comb over of Putin’s youth is awaiting its return to relevance.

  6. Stalin looks like a gypsy fiddler.

  7. What are the odds your average barber/hair dresser would recognize young Joseph Stalin? And if he/she does know who Stalin is, he/she is probably an immigrant from the USSR and likely has some positive feelings toward Stalin.

    • Replies: @Desiderius

    What are the odds your average barber/hair dresser would recognize young Joseph Stalin?
     
    Not high, though it was on the cover of this fairly popular (and fascinating) book:

    https://www.amazon.com/Young-Stalin-Simon-Sebag-Montefiore/dp/1400096138
    , @AndrewR
    False dichotomy. There are many people who know who Stalin was but couldn't recognize him in a photo. Especially this photo where he looks quite a bit different from his elderly self whose photos are the most well-known.

    Although as pointed out, with the exception of people who grew up in Russia, the chance of a hairstylist recognizing who this young man is is very low. Hairstylists almost certainly tend to be lower-info than most Americans when it comes to world history, and the average American knows virtually nothing about world history.

    , @Abe

    What are the odds your average barber/hair dresser would recognize young Joseph Stalin?
     
    Young Stalin looks like one of the members of early 90's, "New Jack Swing" group COLOR ME BAD. Young Nixon might be mistaken for a young Warren Beatty (80 now, wow!)

    The biggest recent innovation in hair styling for both men and women is the realization that few people have pleasingly enough symmetrical faces to pull off the old-style, parted-down-the-middle, same-on-both-sides hairstyles, and so intentionally sculpt their hair into unbalanced shapes. From the the feathered hair look of REO Speedwagon/Night Ranger to the strategic spikes of Ryan Seacrest/Ellen DeGeneres.
    , @snorlax
    IME former USSR immigrants have very negative feelings about Stalin.
    , @syonredux

    And if he/she does know who Stalin is, he/she is probably an immigrant from the USSR and likely has some positive feelings toward Stalin.
     
    Dunno. All of the Russian and Ukrainian immigrants that I know have very negative feelings towards Stalin......
    , @Anon
    People who cut hair tend to be visual-spatial thinkers. That's how they can do the job. They have better visual memories than you realize. I bet a number of female hair cutters would think he looks familiar if they've seen his picture somewhere before, although they might not be able to identify him as Stalin. They are aware of tiny details about a celebrity's appearance so minor that a normal person would miss them.
  8. given that people only know 1/100th of the awful Stalin did—he ranks far below Hitler and below Mao, Castro, and even Pol Pot in the ranks of “worst dictator in the average Joe’s rankings”—I’m surprised this is even a thing.

    Only if Polish cinema became the world’s leading movie makers would Stalin’s crimes get the attention they deserve.

    • Replies: @tz
    Stalin below Mao? Why?
    , @Anon 2
    Actually, Stalin's record as far as Poland is concerned
    is mixed, and I'm not defending him in the least but
    Gen. Zhukov, directed by Stalin, in several months in 1945
    undid 1000 years of the German Drang nach Osten
    by pushing his army all the way to the ancient
    Limes Saxoniae along the Elbe-Saale rivers. The net result
    was that Germany lost 1/3 of its territory, and Poland went
    back to its 1000-year-old border along the Oder-Neisse rivers
  9. Joseph Stalin was a Georgian, which would disqualify him from being White in White Nationalist Stormfront circles because being a Georgian is practically the same thing as being an Armenian and the Kardashian sisters are not seen as White on Stormfront. Both countries are geographically located outside of Europe, both are gold chain wearing countries where they speak with a Borat accent if they have a grasp of the English language, and they are surrounded by countries that end with stan.

    • Replies: @John Derbyshire
    So Caucasians aren't white?
    , @snorlax

    they are surrounded by countries that end with stan.
     
    "Armenia" in Armenian is Hayastan.
    , @Lurker
    I hadn't realised Stormfront was now the final arbiter of white status.
    , @MBlanc46
    I believe that he referred to himself as an "Asiatic".
    , @dearieme
    "Both countries are geographically located outside of Europe": but where you draw the European boundary thereabouts is entirely arbitrary. There's no handy isthmus to provide a natural boundary as there is for Asia/Africa or North/South America.
    , @Anon
    Stormfront appears to be kicking all the R1a males out of the 'white' pool, and confining it to R1b-types.
  10. According to the WaPo the fashy cut is known among hipsters as the Hitler Youth Haircut — not to be confused with the Young Hitler Haircut — but now things are getting too real.

    • Replies: @anon

    According to the WaPo the fashy cut is known among hipsters as the Hitler Youth Haircut — not to be confused with the Young Hitler Haircut — but now things are getting too real.
     
    The Young Hitler haircut was pretty badass, no matter who's side you were on.

    http://www.prisonersofeternity.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/young-adolf-young-man-x.jpg

    With the right hair, it works:

    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/0a/51/44/0a5144a4393318156b31760fbee56245.jpg

    If taken too far, you will not get laid. Even hair-dressers will call you a Nazi:

    http://www.jujuchan.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/DSC03723.jpg
  11. I walk into my shower every 2 days, take out my razor and prepare myself for the “Ike”.

    Thin hair was/is the worst. Putin did the best thing you can do with it; let it go gracefully and get ripped.

    • Agree: Chrisnonymous
  12. “The Stalin” won’t look right unless your hairline is about an inch and a half above your eyebrows. I have the opposite problem, a wizard brow.

    If the girl who cuts your hair is both pretty and recognizes Uncle Joe as a young thug, marry her!

  13. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    All the American hairdressers I’ve ever known would have no idea what Stalin looks like, if they even knew who he was. The only hairdressers who would know him in a photo would be the macedonian immigrant women who work at Supercuts, and they wouldn’t give a rats ass. Spot ’em an extra fiver, and they’ll happily give you an early ’30’s “Hitler Head Special.”

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    … they’ll happily give you an early ’30’s “Hitler Head Special.”
     
    Complete with tape-on toothbrush mustache made from the clippings!
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Anon, Wait, I may be misunderstanding you. Your barber, hairdresser, whatever , will give you head for a fiver? I have a very attractive female barber, a little edgy with some visible tattoos, but a pleasant, funny and attractive young lady. Problem is she doesn't know how to use a straight razor to shave the back of my neck. The older barber would step in to do that. She always promises that she would learn to do it. So, one day in the barber shop, as I slide into her chair, I offhandedly said, "Well Carrie, have you started to shave yet?" Every guy in the shop turned to look as I said that. She smiled and replied, "My armpits and legs and nothing else that you'll ever see." I turned beet red and double tipped her. She gives a nice haircut.
  14. Ok, I’m sold. Fashy haircut is so 2016.

  15. Putin has always said he was a little nerdy guy up until he started judo.

    • Replies: @Erik Sieven
    Putin is very strong-boned. He probably always was short, but never little. Thats just the kind of story naturally gifted people like to tell, like a person with genius IQ who attributes his intellect to his diligent studies.
  16. Putin looks like he was on the receiving end of many wedgies.

  17. without showing the girl who cuts my hair a picture of Joseph Stalin?

    Is there really anything to worry about here? — what are the chances the average young hair Schneiderin (“girl”) would recognize Stalin? — pretty near nil, I would say — sheesh.

    • Replies: @anon
    I don't think that is a literal concern. It's more about the branding of their preferred fad and how they reconcile the perceived conflict on a personal level.
    , @RadicalCenter
    Friseurin, I think ;)
    , @eah
    OT (but also not a bad Frisur)

    Avid readers should consider My Life, the autobiography of Leon Trotsky (((Lev Davidovich Bronstein))) -- I read it during my university days and found it engrossing.
  18. @Peter Akuleyev
    What are the odds your average barber/hair dresser would recognize young Joseph Stalin? And if he/she does know who Stalin is, he/she is probably an immigrant from the USSR and likely has some positive feelings toward Stalin.

    What are the odds your average barber/hair dresser would recognize young Joseph Stalin?

    Not high, though it was on the cover of this fairly popular (and fascinating) book:

  19. George Costanza’s Chinese baldness remedy:

    “They say you grow hair. Look like Stalin!”

    • LOL: eah
  20. “You have to admit that the Young Stalin Haircut is pretty great,” … for a mug shot.

    Another mug shot:
    http://rarehistoricalphotos.com/joseph-stalin-mugshot-1911/

    This Stalin has a surprising arrest record for a world leader. How did he ever get elected?

    I wonder if the picture of Nixon is from before he was rejected by the ‘Franklins’ and formed a new fraternity Orthogonians.

    http://lastbender.com/the-vietnam-project/nixonland-franklins-vs-orthogonians/

    • Replies: @keypusher
    Best mugshot ever:

    http://hauntedbystorytelling.tumblr.com/post/132077768527/david-bowies-mugshot-always-classy
  21. @Peter Akuleyev
    What are the odds your average barber/hair dresser would recognize young Joseph Stalin? And if he/she does know who Stalin is, he/she is probably an immigrant from the USSR and likely has some positive feelings toward Stalin.

    False dichotomy. There are many people who know who Stalin was but couldn’t recognize him in a photo. Especially this photo where he looks quite a bit different from his elderly self whose photos are the most well-known.

    Although as pointed out, with the exception of people who grew up in Russia, the chance of a hairstylist recognizing who this young man is is very low. Hairstylists almost certainly tend to be lower-info than most Americans when it comes to world history, and the average American knows virtually nothing about world history.

  22. Looks like Wham! era George Michael. Or Al Pacino’s hair in Heat. Here he’s ranting about ass in the original German.

    • Replies: @donut
    This is a little thank you for your LOL :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8myK93FqbYc

    The Mills Brothers from Piqua , Ohio . Their career ran from the teens of the 20th century till the 70' s .
  23. Young Putin looks like HK Fauskanger.

  24. I think I mentioned this on another thread, but I recently showed a picture of Richard Spencer to my barber to get a toned-down version of the fashy cut. He’s not really my cup of tea, but hey, the guy looks sharp.

    Fortunately he is not yet a household face, but it still felt a mite transgressive.

    • Replies: @Dr. Krieger
    Hell... I just show them a picture of Ralph Fiennes in Schindler's List from the Google on my phone. They don't know nothing.
  25. I see your Dzhugashvili and raise you a Lev Bronstein! Now that was the Jewfro to end all Jewfros, Lev was rockin’ that shit before it was cool – some big, f*** off hair. If he’d have just toned it down a little, maybe Stalin would have let him live. Alas, it wasn’t to be.

    • LOL: Frau Katze
    • Replies: @Anonym
    No comments yet? Google image search "young Trotsky".
  26. Is it me, or do Vlad Putin (former KGB op) and Daniel Craig (James Bond, fictional British Intelligence op) bear a slight resemblance?

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @Avenge Harambe
    To me, a young Putin resembles David McCallum. These days every time I watch the Man From UNCLE, I see Illya Kuryakin and think young Putin.
    , @Anonymous Nephew
    I've always thought Craig looked like Putin, but few people seem to see it.
  27. Young Vlad as Macaulay Culkin look alike.

    • Agree: Amasius
  28. The chances of a hairdresser recognising young Stalin (or even old Stalin) are pretty minimal.

    Young Putin was a dead ringer for Macaulay Culkin, btw.

  29. @Peter Akuleyev
    What are the odds your average barber/hair dresser would recognize young Joseph Stalin? And if he/she does know who Stalin is, he/she is probably an immigrant from the USSR and likely has some positive feelings toward Stalin.

    What are the odds your average barber/hair dresser would recognize young Joseph Stalin?

    Young Stalin looks like one of the members of early 90’s, “New Jack Swing” group COLOR ME BAD. Young Nixon might be mistaken for a young Warren Beatty (80 now, wow!)

    The biggest recent innovation in hair styling for both men and women is the realization that few people have pleasingly enough symmetrical faces to pull off the old-style, parted-down-the-middle, same-on-both-sides hairstyles, and so intentionally sculpt their hair into unbalanced shapes. From the the feathered hair look of REO Speedwagon/Night Ranger to the strategic spikes of Ryan Seacrest/Ellen DeGeneres.

  30. The scary thing that Putin photo makes me think of that I hadn’t before (besides Home Alone) is that Putin grew up and prospered in the society that Stalin left behind. I see Putin was born five months before Stalin died.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    "The scary thing that Putin photo makes me think of that I hadn’t before (besides Home Alone) is that Putin grew up and prospered in the society that Stalin left behind. I see Putin was born five months before Stalin died."

    Hardly prospered

    at the time of the fire mentioned here
    http://imrussia.org/en/book-reviews/2505-no-putin,-no-russia

    I've seen reports that his net worth was about $5k.

    Can't find them with a quick google.
    , @ussr andy

    The scary thing (...) is that Putin grew up and prospered in the society that Stalin left behind.
     
    This is a demented argument.
  31. @Peter Akuleyev
    What are the odds your average barber/hair dresser would recognize young Joseph Stalin? And if he/she does know who Stalin is, he/she is probably an immigrant from the USSR and likely has some positive feelings toward Stalin.

    IME former USSR immigrants have very negative feelings about Stalin.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
    You mean Jewish immigration? This is not to dispute the thesis of Stalin not being a great humanitarian but most of immigration from USSR to United States is Jewish.
    , @Peter Akuleyev
    IME, less negative than you would think. Yes, Soviet Jews who emigrated in the 1970s-90s tend to be aware of Stalin's crimes, heard their parents and grand-parents stories, and have probably read Shalamov, Solzhenitsyn, etc. But we are talking about the sort of ex-USSR emigre who is likely to be working in a hair salon. A lot of them manage to simultaneously realize Stalin did bad things, while still feeling a debt to him for his war leadership.
  32. @snorlax
    IME former USSR immigrants have very negative feelings about Stalin.

    You mean Jewish immigration? This is not to dispute the thesis of Stalin not being a great humanitarian but most of immigration from USSR to United States is Jewish.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    The Romanian Christian immigrants whom we knew in Cleveland, Ohio hated the Soviet system and Stalin.

    Then again, they left Romania after the breakup of the USSR.
    , @kaganovitch
    Also, all the Ukranians i've ever known hated Stalin passionately(for obvious reasons of course)
  33. I nominate 80’s football star Brian Bosworth as official hair stylist for the alt-right. Particularly like the bitchin’ rad look he had going in that photo in front of the white Corvette:

    http://www.si.com/college-football/photos/2011/03/09rare-photos-of-brian-bosworth

    Bosworth found the perfect haircut for BLADE RUNNER’s implicit space-Nazi Roy Batty, but sadly well too late for it to have been used in the film. Still, Brian scared so many retreating, yet ESPN-loving young lads back then with his whole cyber-Ubermensch schtick that he has had a sort of career revival thanks to the need by these same sensitive, retreating lads (now full-grown and become artisanal chocolate makers and 30-for-3o documentary directors) to resurrect him just so that he can be symbolically bested yet again by their white knight Bo Jackson (see the car commercial that’s playing now).

  34. from “19 Photos of World Leaders When They Were Younger,”

    Shinzo Abe looks the same now as he did when he was 4 years old!

    • Replies: @wren
    If you are wondering from that photo what his dad saw in his mom, who resembles Pepe the frog, her dad was the war criminal who became prime minister, thanks to anti-communist GHQ machinations. And Shinzo's dad was the foreign minister. And dad's dad was another politician. And there was a general in there somewhere too.

    Several Japanese people I know have severe Abe derangement syndrome.

    http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2012/12/26/national/formed-in-childhood-roots-of-abes-conservatism-go-deep/

  35. @snorlax
    IME former USSR immigrants have very negative feelings about Stalin.

    IME, less negative than you would think. Yes, Soviet Jews who emigrated in the 1970s-90s tend to be aware of Stalin’s crimes, heard their parents and grand-parents stories, and have probably read Shalamov, Solzhenitsyn, etc. But we are talking about the sort of ex-USSR emigre who is likely to be working in a hair salon. A lot of them manage to simultaneously realize Stalin did bad things, while still feeling a debt to him for his war leadership.

    • Replies: @dearieme
    Just as many Americans manage to simultaneously realise FDR did bad things, while still feeling a debt to him for his war leadership.
  36. @Peter Akuleyev
    IME, less negative than you would think. Yes, Soviet Jews who emigrated in the 1970s-90s tend to be aware of Stalin's crimes, heard their parents and grand-parents stories, and have probably read Shalamov, Solzhenitsyn, etc. But we are talking about the sort of ex-USSR emigre who is likely to be working in a hair salon. A lot of them manage to simultaneously realize Stalin did bad things, while still feeling a debt to him for his war leadership.

    Just as many Americans manage to simultaneously realise FDR did bad things, while still feeling a debt to him for his war leadership.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    Any American who feels a debt to FDR for his war "leadership" is misinformed or morally sick.

    FDR provoked, harassed, economically harmed, and threatened Japan until Japan finally attacked in an attempt to strike before its fossil-fuel supplies ran out.

    IMO, FDR also got the USA into the European theater when he should have kept us out entirely. If we were going to intervene, it's not clear that we should have intervened on the side of the USSR.

    FDR was a warmonger, a liar, and should be considered one of the worst presidents in US history -- a title with a lot of competition (Obama, W Bush, Woodrow Wilson, etc.).
  37. Sadly, this isn’t a great haircut, it’s great hair. Stalin was born with this hair, can’t be mimicked. You have it or you don’t.

    • Agree: DCThrowback
  38. This doesn’t work either

  39. Why I’m not a fan of the fashy haircut.

  40. In Deep State news, the Russian ambassador to Turkey was just shot in an Ankara art gallery.

    • Replies: @NOTA
    His name wasn't Ferdinand, was it?
    , @syonredux

    The Russian ambassador to Ankara has been killed in a gun attack at an art gallery in the Turkish capital, Russia’s foreign ministry confirmed. Reports suggested the gunman was a Turkish riot police officer.

    Andrei Karlov was attending the opening of an exhibit at a contemporary arts centre when he was attacked on Monday evening. He was several minutes into a speech at the exhibit when a man shouted “Allahu Akbar” and fired at least eight shots, video of the attack showed.

    After firing at the ambassador, the man, dressed in a suit and tie, shouted in Turkish: “Don’t forget Aleppo. Don’t forget Syria. Unless our towns are secure, you won’t enjoy security. Only death can take me from here. Everyone who is involved in this suffering will pay a price.”

    He also shouted in Arabic: “We are the one who pledged allegiance to Muhammad, to wage jihad.”

     
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/19/russian-ambassador-to-turkey-wounded-in-ankara-shooting-attack
  41. @Connecticut Famer
    Is it me, or do Vlad Putin (former KGB op) and Daniel Craig (James Bond, fictional British Intelligence op) bear a slight resemblance?

    To me, a young Putin resembles David McCallum. These days every time I watch the Man From UNCLE, I see Illya Kuryakin and think young Putin.

  42. @Connecticut Famer
    Is it me, or do Vlad Putin (former KGB op) and Daniel Craig (James Bond, fictional British Intelligence op) bear a slight resemblance?

    I’ve always thought Craig looked like Putin, but few people seem to see it.

  43. @eah
    without showing the girl who cuts my hair a picture of Joseph Stalin?

    Is there really anything to worry about here? -- what are the chances the average young hair Schneiderin ("girl") would recognize Stalin? -- pretty near nil, I would say -- sheesh.

    I don’t think that is a literal concern. It’s more about the branding of their preferred fad and how they reconcile the perceived conflict on a personal level.

  44. @Jefferson
    Joseph Stalin was a Georgian, which would disqualify him from being White in White Nationalist Stormfront circles because being a Georgian is practically the same thing as being an Armenian and the Kardashian sisters are not seen as White on Stormfront. Both countries are geographically located outside of Europe, both are gold chain wearing countries where they speak with a Borat accent if they have a grasp of the English language, and they are surrounded by countries that end with stan.

    So Caucasians aren’t white?

    • LOL: NOTA
    • Replies: @Sean
    They are not as literally white as the whitest white. The most complete (Yamnaya) conquest and extermination of all the native men and many of the native women was in early Bronze age north Europe, which is when and where fully white skin first appeared. So fully white skin has something to do with the preferential survival of the whiter women, and possibly children, at the mercy of merciless men.
  45. @Jefferson
    Joseph Stalin was a Georgian, which would disqualify him from being White in White Nationalist Stormfront circles because being a Georgian is practically the same thing as being an Armenian and the Kardashian sisters are not seen as White on Stormfront. Both countries are geographically located outside of Europe, both are gold chain wearing countries where they speak with a Borat accent if they have a grasp of the English language, and they are surrounded by countries that end with stan.

    they are surrounded by countries that end with stan.

    “Armenia” in Armenian is Hayastan.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    Did not know that. Interesting, thank you.

    Our family is considering a move to the capital of Hayastan: Glendale, California.
    , @anon
    England is known as Inglistan in Middle East and South Asia. This is an ancient name and different from the more recent Londonistan.
    , @Frau Katze
    The Armenian language has a lot Persian loan words. (They're both Indo-European languages. Side note: the -stan ending is akin to the English word "stand.")

    There's some kind of historical connection, likely pre dating Islam.

    When the Turks started killing Armenians during WW I, some escaped to Iran, who didn't mind taking them (sadly, not many got away).

    They're allies to this day.
  46. • Replies: @Seth Largo
    Man, I wish I could get tenure talking to 19 people from Craigslist and calling it research.
    , @SPMoore8
    All of this was pretty much exhausted by Laud Humphrey in the 1960's, along with the idea of the "breastplate of righteousness."

    Basic idea is that straight men or men who identify with being straight will occasionally have same sex encounters.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tearoom_Trade

    My theory on this follows Schopenhauer who held that as men age, and are physiologically less spontaneous with sex, and less able to procreate let alone raise the products of their procreation, there is a strong tendency to become asexual on the one hand, or engage in some pederasty on the other hand. (One of the appendices to Part 2 of "World as Will and Representation"). To which, following iSteve, we could add a third possibility, the desire to become a woman.
    , @Sean
    Men who when they have have sex with men prefer straight acting men as partners, are surely at an extreme of gayness.
    , @Daniel H
    They're homos in denial.
    , @NOTA
    So they're basically talking to guys who like sex with men, but aren't culturally gay. I guess it's not a shock to hear of their existence. I lived many years in the Midwest without seeing much evidence of it, but it's easy to see how I could have missed it. I have no idea how large the group is (nor do they, from the article), but it's probably about the same fraction as the black men "on the down-low."
    , @Charles Erwin Wilson
    And what is your point?
  47. @snorlax
    In Deep State news, the Russian ambassador to Turkey was just shot in an Ankara art gallery.

    His name wasn’t Ferdinand, was it?

  48. @Anon
    All the American hairdressers I've ever known would have no idea what Stalin looks like, if they even knew who he was. The only hairdressers who would know him in a photo would be the macedonian immigrant women who work at Supercuts, and they wouldn't give a rats ass. Spot 'em an extra fiver, and they'll happily give you an early '30’s "Hitler Head Special."

    … they’ll happily give you an early ’30’s “Hitler Head Special.”

    Complete with tape-on toothbrush mustache made from the clippings!

  49. A decade or so ago I asked my hairstylist if she could fashion my hair to look like then Japanese PM Koizumi. I even brought a picture. She said I did not have enough hair left on top to have such an impressive hairdo.

  50. @Peter Akuleyev
    What are the odds your average barber/hair dresser would recognize young Joseph Stalin? And if he/she does know who Stalin is, he/she is probably an immigrant from the USSR and likely has some positive feelings toward Stalin.

    And if he/she does know who Stalin is, he/she is probably an immigrant from the USSR and likely has some positive feelings toward Stalin.

    Dunno. All of the Russian and Ukrainian immigrants that I know have very negative feelings towards Stalin……

  51. @Romanian
    You heard it here first

    http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2016/12/why-straight-rural-men-have-gay-bud-sex-with-each-other.html

    Man, I wish I could get tenure talking to 19 people from Craigslist and calling it research.

  52. @eah
    without showing the girl who cuts my hair a picture of Joseph Stalin?

    Is there really anything to worry about here? -- what are the chances the average young hair Schneiderin ("girl") would recognize Stalin? -- pretty near nil, I would say -- sheesh.

    Friseurin, I think 😉

  53. @snorlax
    In Deep State news, the Russian ambassador to Turkey was just shot in an Ankara art gallery.

    The Russian ambassador to Ankara has been killed in a gun attack at an art gallery in the Turkish capital, Russia’s foreign ministry confirmed. Reports suggested the gunman was a Turkish riot police officer.

    Andrei Karlov was attending the opening of an exhibit at a contemporary arts centre when he was attacked on Monday evening. He was several minutes into a speech at the exhibit when a man shouted “Allahu Akbar” and fired at least eight shots, video of the attack showed.

    After firing at the ambassador, the man, dressed in a suit and tie, shouted in Turkish: “Don’t forget Aleppo. Don’t forget Syria. Unless our towns are secure, you won’t enjoy security. Only death can take me from here. Everyone who is involved in this suffering will pay a price.”

    He also shouted in Arabic: “We are the one who pledged allegiance to Muhammad, to wage jihad.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/19/russian-ambassador-to-turkey-wounded-in-ankara-shooting-attack

    • Replies: @snorlax
    I really doubt this is a genuine case of Sudden Jihad Syndrome. Turkey is a country where Occam's Razor really is not typically the best explanation, especially for things like this. Shooter was a police officer, which smells very Deep Statey. The question is which Deep State(s)? In rough descending order of probability:

    Turkish ([rogue] pro-Erdogan and/or anti-Erdogan and/or Gülen)
    Russian internal power struggle ([rogue] pro-Putin and/or kleptocrat)
    American/CIA (Obama's "retaliation" = provoke crisis w/ Turkey)
    Israeli/Mossad
    Qatari/Muslim Brotherhood
    Saudi/GCC

    , @Anonym
    Above all else, the quality I love about Muslims is their propensity to do our recruiting for us. This will be the downfall of Merkel.

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/12/19/one-dead-lorry-plows-berlin-christmas-market/

    Soon:

    http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1073015-donald-trump

    , @Anonym
    Some video. I love the internet. The NYT and CNN can try and hide this. All it does is drop their circulation/ratings.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/810898154845536257/video/1
  54. @Andrei Martyanov
    You mean Jewish immigration? This is not to dispute the thesis of Stalin not being a great humanitarian but most of immigration from USSR to United States is Jewish.

    The Romanian Christian immigrants whom we knew in Cleveland, Ohio hated the Soviet system and Stalin.

    Then again, they left Romania after the breakup of the USSR.

  55. Young Stalin didn’t have a great haircut he just had a fantastic head of hair.

    Remember when George Costanza is trying to get the bald treatment from China and the endorsement of it is “Looka like Stalin!”

  56. @dearieme
    Just as many Americans manage to simultaneously realise FDR did bad things, while still feeling a debt to him for his war leadership.

    Any American who feels a debt to FDR for his war “leadership” is misinformed or morally sick.

    FDR provoked, harassed, economically harmed, and threatened Japan until Japan finally attacked in an attempt to strike before its fossil-fuel supplies ran out.

    IMO, FDR also got the USA into the European theater when he should have kept us out entirely. If we were going to intervene, it’s not clear that we should have intervened on the side of the USSR.

    FDR was a warmonger, a liar, and should be considered one of the worst presidents in US history — a title with a lot of competition (Obama, W Bush, Woodrow Wilson, etc.).

    • Replies: @Anon
    One of my relatives did his utmost to talk the American authorities into halting all oil sales to Japan before the Pearl Harbor attack. He was in living China when the Japanese invaded that country, and he was witness to the slaughter and abuse the Japanese inflicted on the civilian Chinese population. Rape of Nanking, anyone? The latter happened a full 4 years before Pearl Harbor. The Japanese were running amok all over southeast Asia and murdering civilians for years before the US entered the war.

    What would your alternative been? Just let the Japanese continue conquering country after country and slaughtering people en masse like Pol Pot? For what purpose? It didn't serve a military purpose to let the Japanese get an edge up on us by seizing friendly or neutral territory which we would have to liberate, and it certainly didn't serve a moral purpose to let the Japanese military continue to commit acts of insane brutality.

    Leaving Japan alone would have been like leaving Hitler alone. The Japanese fully earned their fuel boycott and later ass-kicking from the US.

    , @syonredux

    FDR provoked, harassed, economically harmed, and threatened Japan until Japan finally attacked in an attempt to strike before its fossil-fuel supplies ran out.
     
    Difficult to feel sorry for Imperial Japan, the nation that gave the world the Rape of Nanking, wholesale slaughter in Manila, the medical "experiments " of Unit 731, the Three Alls Policy ( "kill all, burn all, loot all"), etc

    And if they wanted to commit "suicide-by-America".....

    IMO, FDR also got the USA into the European theater when he should have kept us out entirely. If we were going to intervene, it’s not clear that we should have intervened on the side of the USSR.
     
    Better than Hitler, dear fellow. Stalin's main killing phase (Holodomor, Great Terror) was winding down by '39, whereas Hitler was just warming up....And if he had won, well, things would have been rather unpleasant in the East:


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunger_Plan


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost
  57. @snorlax

    they are surrounded by countries that end with stan.
     
    "Armenia" in Armenian is Hayastan.

    Did not know that. Interesting, thank you.

    Our family is considering a move to the capital of Hayastan: Glendale, California.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Armenians flock to the most Midwestern parts of Southern California: Glendale, Burkbank, Pasadena. They're like exotic, clannish Iowans in their tastes. I just went to The Americana in Glendale to see "La La Land," and developer Rick Caruso built his outdoor shopping mall to look like the downtown of a prosperous Ohio town in 1912. Armenians love the Americana on Brand.
  58. #13.. Must be that Silent Transmission the Buddhists talk of.. of HoundDoggery
    …and..
    Nelson Mandela had moobs ?!?!?

  59. I’ve had the Putin haircut since I was a wee little lad, and haven’t changed once (except for an awkward unkempt/uncut hippie hair sophomore year of college). Speaking of which, time to go for a trim of my Putin…

  60. @Romanian
    You heard it here first

    http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2016/12/why-straight-rural-men-have-gay-bud-sex-with-each-other.html

    All of this was pretty much exhausted by Laud Humphrey in the 1960’s, along with the idea of the “breastplate of righteousness.”

    Basic idea is that straight men or men who identify with being straight will occasionally have same sex encounters.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tearoom_Trade

    My theory on this follows Schopenhauer who held that as men age, and are physiologically less spontaneous with sex, and less able to procreate let alone raise the products of their procreation, there is a strong tendency to become asexual on the one hand, or engage in some pederasty on the other hand. (One of the appendices to Part 2 of “World as Will and Representation”). To which, following iSteve, we could add a third possibility, the desire to become a woman.

    • Replies: @PistolPete
    Here in Brazil we say old guys become gay. Seems a little true, at least here. A lot of old perverts around it seems
  61. @Chrisnonymous

    from “19 Photos of World Leaders When They Were Younger,”
     
    Shinzo Abe looks the same now as he did when he was 4 years old!

    If you are wondering from that photo what his dad saw in his mom, who resembles Pepe the frog, her dad was the war criminal who became prime minister, thanks to anti-communist GHQ machinations. And Shinzo’s dad was the foreign minister. And dad’s dad was another politician. And there was a general in there somewhere too.

    Several Japanese people I know have severe Abe derangement syndrome.

    http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2012/12/26/national/formed-in-childhood-roots-of-abes-conservatism-go-deep/

  62. @Jefferson
    Joseph Stalin was a Georgian, which would disqualify him from being White in White Nationalist Stormfront circles because being a Georgian is practically the same thing as being an Armenian and the Kardashian sisters are not seen as White on Stormfront. Both countries are geographically located outside of Europe, both are gold chain wearing countries where they speak with a Borat accent if they have a grasp of the English language, and they are surrounded by countries that end with stan.

    I hadn’t realised Stormfront was now the final arbiter of white status.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    According to some people on Stormfront anyone with brown hair and brown eyes is Not White.

    According to them Joseph Goebbels, George Wallace and P.W. Botha were Non-Whites, like Tupac Shakur and Scarlett Johansson.

    The Stormfront assessment isn't quite as strict as the Japanese assessment. According to the Japanese, White people are all blond.

    If a blue-eyed, dark-haired person of European descent tries to hit on someone in Japan, a Japanese person will reply that, sorry, they aren't interested in Arabs.

    The Japanese think that dark-haired people who aren't from the Middle East are Japanese, but holding their eyes open really wide.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K1kO2qdRKE

    , @Jefferson
    "I hadn’t realised Stormfront was now the final arbiter of white status."

    Most of the Alt-Right also agrees with Stormfront's view that Non Europeans like Georgians and Armenians are not White.
    , @neutral
    I am not from Stormfront and I also don't consider Georgians or Armenians as white. If you consider Arabs non white then how can you accept people that look like them as white then ? Their location is also a problem, they are right next to the Middle East and are not part of Europe, the Central Asian and Middle Eastern contacts through history would surely mean that they have a high mixture of people from there.
  63. @hee
    Some interesting photos there.

    Putin has a prototypical Russian face, that photo of his younger self really highlights it. Pope Francis on the other hand has a serious case of gayface.

    I would mention the ‘stroke you like a kitten’ incident but the last person who talked about that got poisoned with (several million dollars worth of) Polonium.

  64. Castro was the most interesting. Man with a beard, something to hide indeed.

  65. Gives me the giggles to read so many men fussing about hairdos.

  66. @Romanian
    You heard it here first

    http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2016/12/why-straight-rural-men-have-gay-bud-sex-with-each-other.html

    Men who when they have have sex with men prefer straight acting men as partners, are surely at an extreme of gayness.

  67. @Lurker
    I hadn't realised Stormfront was now the final arbiter of white status.

    According to some people on Stormfront anyone with brown hair and brown eyes is Not White.

    According to them Joseph Goebbels, George Wallace and P.W. Botha were Non-Whites, like Tupac Shakur and Scarlett Johansson.

    The Stormfront assessment isn’t quite as strict as the Japanese assessment. According to the Japanese, White people are all blond.

    If a blue-eyed, dark-haired person of European descent tries to hit on someone in Japan, a Japanese person will reply that, sorry, they aren’t interested in Arabs.

    The Japanese think that dark-haired people who aren’t from the Middle East are Japanese, but holding their eyes open really wide.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    Talk about racism! Casting Japanese actors as Europeans!
    , @Anonymous
    If a blue-eyed, dark-haired person of European descent tries to hit on someone in Japan, a Japanese person will reply that, sorry, they aren’t interested in Arabs.

    Can confirm this is flat out wrong. Light eyes, dark hair, Western European ancestry.
    , @Jefferson
    "According to them Joseph Goebbels, George Wallace and P.W. Botha were Non-Whites, like Tupac Shakur and Scarlett Johansson."

    Scarlett Johansson is a Person Of Color just like 2Pac?
    , @Jefferson
    "If a blue-eyed, dark-haired person of European descent tries to hit on someone in Japan, a Japanese person will reply that, sorry, they aren’t interested in Arabs."

    I call bullshit on your claim that the Japanese associate Arabs with having blue eyes, when the vast majority of Arabs do not even have blue eyes. There is not a single Arab country where blue eyed people are even a plurality, let alone a majority.
    http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/4581457/1/

  68. Hair as thick as Stalin’s makes you look aggressive. The younger of the Tsarnaev brothers had the ideal thickness:Rolling Stone cover quality hair. But the Boris Johnson/Donald Trump haircut is proven to actually work.

  69. @George
    "You have to admit that the Young Stalin Haircut is pretty great," ... for a mug shot.

    Another mug shot:
    http://rarehistoricalphotos.com/joseph-stalin-mugshot-1911/

    This Stalin has a surprising arrest record for a world leader. How did he ever get elected?

    I wonder if the picture of Nixon is from before he was rejected by the 'Franklins' and formed a new fraternity Orthogonians.

    http://lastbender.com/the-vietnam-project/nixonland-franklins-vs-orthogonians/
  70. @John Mansfield
    The scary thing that Putin photo makes me think of that I hadn't before (besides Home Alone) is that Putin grew up and prospered in the society that Stalin left behind. I see Putin was born five months before Stalin died.

    “The scary thing that Putin photo makes me think of that I hadn’t before (besides Home Alone) is that Putin grew up and prospered in the society that Stalin left behind. I see Putin was born five months before Stalin died.”

    Hardly prospered

    at the time of the fire mentioned here
    http://imrussia.org/en/book-reviews/2505-no-putin,-no-russia

    I’ve seen reports that his net worth was about $5k.

    Can’t find them with a quick google.

  71. @syonredux

    The Russian ambassador to Ankara has been killed in a gun attack at an art gallery in the Turkish capital, Russia’s foreign ministry confirmed. Reports suggested the gunman was a Turkish riot police officer.

    Andrei Karlov was attending the opening of an exhibit at a contemporary arts centre when he was attacked on Monday evening. He was several minutes into a speech at the exhibit when a man shouted “Allahu Akbar” and fired at least eight shots, video of the attack showed.

    After firing at the ambassador, the man, dressed in a suit and tie, shouted in Turkish: “Don’t forget Aleppo. Don’t forget Syria. Unless our towns are secure, you won’t enjoy security. Only death can take me from here. Everyone who is involved in this suffering will pay a price.”

    He also shouted in Arabic: “We are the one who pledged allegiance to Muhammad, to wage jihad.”

     
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/19/russian-ambassador-to-turkey-wounded-in-ankara-shooting-attack

    I really doubt this is a genuine case of Sudden Jihad Syndrome. Turkey is a country where Occam’s Razor really is not typically the best explanation, especially for things like this. Shooter was a police officer, which smells very Deep Statey. The question is which Deep State(s)? In rough descending order of probability:

    Turkish ([rogue] pro-Erdogan and/or anti-Erdogan and/or Gülen)
    Russian internal power struggle ([rogue] pro-Putin and/or kleptocrat)
    American/CIA (Obama’s “retaliation” = provoke crisis w/ Turkey)
    Israeli/Mossad
    Qatari/Muslim Brotherhood
    Saudi/GCC

    • Replies: @Boomstick
    Was the shooter police? From the vid it looks like the shooter had at least basic firearms competence and was practiced.
    , @Jefferson
    "I really doubt this is a genuine case of Sudden Jihad Syndrome. Turkey is a country where Occam’s Razor really is not typically the best explanation,"

    Tell that to the Americans shot by a Jihadist Turk in a shopping mall in Washington state.
  72. @whorefinder
    given that people only know 1/100th of the awful Stalin did---he ranks far below Hitler and below Mao, Castro, and even Pol Pot in the ranks of "worst dictator in the average Joe's rankings"---I'm surprised this is even a thing.

    Only if Polish cinema became the world's leading movie makers would Stalin's crimes get the attention they deserve.

    Stalin below Mao? Why?

    • Replies: @whorefinder
    The Commies in the U.S. were allied with Stalin and not Mao, and so didn't work to cover Mao's crimes as diligently as they covered up Stalin's.
  73. @snorlax
    According to some people on Stormfront anyone with brown hair and brown eyes is Not White.

    According to them Joseph Goebbels, George Wallace and P.W. Botha were Non-Whites, like Tupac Shakur and Scarlett Johansson.

    The Stormfront assessment isn't quite as strict as the Japanese assessment. According to the Japanese, White people are all blond.

    If a blue-eyed, dark-haired person of European descent tries to hit on someone in Japan, a Japanese person will reply that, sorry, they aren't interested in Arabs.

    The Japanese think that dark-haired people who aren't from the Middle East are Japanese, but holding their eyes open really wide.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K1kO2qdRKE

    Talk about racism! Casting Japanese actors as Europeans!

  74. How to get a haircut similar to Joseph Stalin without showing the girl who cuts my hair a picture of Joseph Stalin?

    Yeah, as though she’d recognize him.

    But playing along with that absurdity, I’d say simply over-‘Shop Joseph Vissarionovich’s face with Pepe’s.

    Or this guy’s:

  75. OT:

    When Minnesota’s 10 electors voted today, one “faithless” elector named Muhammad Abdurrahman was disqualified (for supporting Bernie Sanders) and replaced.

    Amusingly, the fellow reporting for the Saint Paul Pioneer Press thought it necessary to include this line in his story today:

    It takes 270 electoral votes to win the presidency, and Trump apparently won enough states to top that mark — even though he trailed Clinton by more than 2.6 million votes nationwide.

    http://www.twincities.com/2016/12/19/minnesota-electoral-college-bittersweet-votes-hillary-clinton-donald-trump/

  76. According to Seinfeld, the legend of Stalin’s hair extends to China

    Ping: Ah Fuka suma. If you send money they send cream.

    George: They send me? Aw right ..ask ’em Does it really work?

    Ping: Gym a gun sen tokomo. Chin che .They say you grow hair, Look a like Stalin

  77. @snorlax
    I really doubt this is a genuine case of Sudden Jihad Syndrome. Turkey is a country where Occam's Razor really is not typically the best explanation, especially for things like this. Shooter was a police officer, which smells very Deep Statey. The question is which Deep State(s)? In rough descending order of probability:

    Turkish ([rogue] pro-Erdogan and/or anti-Erdogan and/or Gülen)
    Russian internal power struggle ([rogue] pro-Putin and/or kleptocrat)
    American/CIA (Obama's "retaliation" = provoke crisis w/ Turkey)
    Israeli/Mossad
    Qatari/Muslim Brotherhood
    Saudi/GCC

    Was the shooter police? From the vid it looks like the shooter had at least basic firearms competence and was practiced.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    Yeah.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/russian-ambassador-shooting-gunman-identity-policeman-ankara-age-suspect-latest-news-updates-a7485221.html

    The gunman who shot Russian ambassador Andrey Karlov in the back was a police officer, Turkey's Interior Minister, Suleyman Soylu, has confirmed.

    The officer is believed to have used his official identification to enter the art gallery, before opening fire on the ambassador as he gave a speech.

    It was unclear whether he was on or off duty at the time of the shooting.
     
  78. @Romanian
    You heard it here first

    http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2016/12/why-straight-rural-men-have-gay-bud-sex-with-each-other.html

    They’re homos in denial.

  79. I want LBJ’s hairstyle. Neat, clean, expresses gravitas. Problem is, I still have a bit of a cowlick and I have to really grease it down.

    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/war_stories/2012/05/robert_caro_s_new_history_of_lbj_offers_a_mistaken_account_of_the_cuban_missile_crisis.html

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    LBJ's hairstyle after his presidency was also memorable.

    http://canyouactually.com/wp-content/uploads/lbj-long-hair.jpg
  80. @Romanian
    You heard it here first

    http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2016/12/why-straight-rural-men-have-gay-bud-sex-with-each-other.html

    So they’re basically talking to guys who like sex with men, but aren’t culturally gay. I guess it’s not a shock to hear of their existence. I lived many years in the Midwest without seeing much evidence of it, but it’s easy to see how I could have missed it. I have no idea how large the group is (nor do they, from the article), but it’s probably about the same fraction as the black men “on the down-low.”

  81. @Boomstick
    Was the shooter police? From the vid it looks like the shooter had at least basic firearms competence and was practiced.

    Yeah.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/russian-ambassador-shooting-gunman-identity-policeman-ankara-age-suspect-latest-news-updates-a7485221.html

    The gunman who shot Russian ambassador Andrey Karlov in the back was a police officer, Turkey’s Interior Minister, Suleyman Soylu, has confirmed.

    The officer is believed to have used his official identification to enter the art gallery, before opening fire on the ambassador as he gave a speech.

    It was unclear whether he was on or off duty at the time of the shooting.

  82. @Jefferson
    Joseph Stalin was a Georgian, which would disqualify him from being White in White Nationalist Stormfront circles because being a Georgian is practically the same thing as being an Armenian and the Kardashian sisters are not seen as White on Stormfront. Both countries are geographically located outside of Europe, both are gold chain wearing countries where they speak with a Borat accent if they have a grasp of the English language, and they are surrounded by countries that end with stan.

    I believe that he referred to himself as an “Asiatic”.

  83. @a boy and his dog
    Putin has always said he was a little nerdy guy up until he started judo.

    Putin is very strong-boned. He probably always was short, but never little. Thats just the kind of story naturally gifted people like to tell, like a person with genius IQ who attributes his intellect to his diligent studies.

  84. So, Europe has experienced just another truck-mageddon. This time in Berlin…

  85. @snorlax
    According to some people on Stormfront anyone with brown hair and brown eyes is Not White.

    According to them Joseph Goebbels, George Wallace and P.W. Botha were Non-Whites, like Tupac Shakur and Scarlett Johansson.

    The Stormfront assessment isn't quite as strict as the Japanese assessment. According to the Japanese, White people are all blond.

    If a blue-eyed, dark-haired person of European descent tries to hit on someone in Japan, a Japanese person will reply that, sorry, they aren't interested in Arabs.

    The Japanese think that dark-haired people who aren't from the Middle East are Japanese, but holding their eyes open really wide.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K1kO2qdRKE

    If a blue-eyed, dark-haired person of European descent tries to hit on someone in Japan, a Japanese person will reply that, sorry, they aren’t interested in Arabs.

    Can confirm this is flat out wrong. Light eyes, dark hair, Western European ancestry.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    I know a (definitely not Arab) guy who says it happened to him more than once, but anyhow I wasn't fully serious there.
  86. Jihad by Truck in Germany

    Doubtless police will no idea about the motive and the driver will turn out to have mental problems.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4049442/Terror-attack-fears-lorry-ploughs-Christmas-market-Berlin-leaving-two-people-dead.html

  87. @snorlax
    According to some people on Stormfront anyone with brown hair and brown eyes is Not White.

    According to them Joseph Goebbels, George Wallace and P.W. Botha were Non-Whites, like Tupac Shakur and Scarlett Johansson.

    The Stormfront assessment isn't quite as strict as the Japanese assessment. According to the Japanese, White people are all blond.

    If a blue-eyed, dark-haired person of European descent tries to hit on someone in Japan, a Japanese person will reply that, sorry, they aren't interested in Arabs.

    The Japanese think that dark-haired people who aren't from the Middle East are Japanese, but holding their eyes open really wide.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K1kO2qdRKE

    “According to them Joseph Goebbels, George Wallace and P.W. Botha were Non-Whites, like Tupac Shakur and Scarlett Johansson.”

    Scarlett Johansson is a Person Of Color just like 2Pac?

    • Replies: @snorlax
    I'm poking fun at the "Jews aren't white" crowd.
  88. @syonredux

    The Russian ambassador to Ankara has been killed in a gun attack at an art gallery in the Turkish capital, Russia’s foreign ministry confirmed. Reports suggested the gunman was a Turkish riot police officer.

    Andrei Karlov was attending the opening of an exhibit at a contemporary arts centre when he was attacked on Monday evening. He was several minutes into a speech at the exhibit when a man shouted “Allahu Akbar” and fired at least eight shots, video of the attack showed.

    After firing at the ambassador, the man, dressed in a suit and tie, shouted in Turkish: “Don’t forget Aleppo. Don’t forget Syria. Unless our towns are secure, you won’t enjoy security. Only death can take me from here. Everyone who is involved in this suffering will pay a price.”

    He also shouted in Arabic: “We are the one who pledged allegiance to Muhammad, to wage jihad.”

     
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/19/russian-ambassador-to-turkey-wounded-in-ankara-shooting-attack

    Above all else, the quality I love about Muslims is their propensity to do our recruiting for us. This will be the downfall of Merkel.

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/12/19/one-dead-lorry-plows-berlin-christmas-market/

    Soon:

    http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1073015-donald-trump

  89. Breaking – nine dead as truck ploughs into Berlin Christmas market in clone of Nice attack. Driver then ran off. Well done Merkel.

    Guardian doesn’t know “if it was an accident”!

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/dec/19/berlin-truck-crash-christmas-market-live

    “A co-driver of the truck that plowed into the Berlin Christmas market died during the crash, a police spokesman said on N24 television, according to Reuters.

    The other suspected driver was arrested near the scene, the AP reports.”

    • Replies: @fitzGetty
    No.
    The Guardian newspaper knows exactly what has happened ... but it is ultra selective in telling its readers ... M for Mendacity ...
  90. @Lurker
    I hadn't realised Stormfront was now the final arbiter of white status.

    “I hadn’t realised Stormfront was now the final arbiter of white status.”

    Most of the Alt-Right also agrees with Stormfront’s view that Non Europeans like Georgians and Armenians are not White.

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    So "Jefferson" is the arbiter of what the Alt Right is now.
  91. Looks like Dzhokhar Tsarnaev.

    • Replies: @Seran
    Not sure if true, but I heard the Berlin truck terrorist was a chechen.
  92. @Anonym
    I see your Dzhugashvili and raise you a Lev Bronstein! Now that was the Jewfro to end all Jewfros, Lev was rockin' that shit before it was cool - some big, f*** off hair. If he'd have just toned it down a little, maybe Stalin would have let him live. Alas, it wasn't to be.

    No comments yet? Google image search “young Trotsky”.

  93. @syonredux

    The Russian ambassador to Ankara has been killed in a gun attack at an art gallery in the Turkish capital, Russia’s foreign ministry confirmed. Reports suggested the gunman was a Turkish riot police officer.

    Andrei Karlov was attending the opening of an exhibit at a contemporary arts centre when he was attacked on Monday evening. He was several minutes into a speech at the exhibit when a man shouted “Allahu Akbar” and fired at least eight shots, video of the attack showed.

    After firing at the ambassador, the man, dressed in a suit and tie, shouted in Turkish: “Don’t forget Aleppo. Don’t forget Syria. Unless our towns are secure, you won’t enjoy security. Only death can take me from here. Everyone who is involved in this suffering will pay a price.”

    He also shouted in Arabic: “We are the one who pledged allegiance to Muhammad, to wage jihad.”

     
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/19/russian-ambassador-to-turkey-wounded-in-ankara-shooting-attack

    Some video. I love the internet. The NYT and CNN can try and hide this. All it does is drop their circulation/ratings.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/810898154845536257/video/1

  94. I wonder if the truck was hijacked and the driver killed? Would explain the body in the cab.

    This video of the crash has been ‘liked’ by “Abdul Muhammad, Ferhal Kurdi, Ali Ahmad and 121 others”.

  95. OT but this report on today’s Berlin truck massacre gets it about right

    “The man suspected to be the driver of the truck was arrested several hundred years from the scene and in being questions by police, police siad.”

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/12/19/report-truck-drives-into-crowded-christmas-market-in-berlin.html

    Several hundred years sounds realistic.

  96. @Jefferson
    Joseph Stalin was a Georgian, which would disqualify him from being White in White Nationalist Stormfront circles because being a Georgian is practically the same thing as being an Armenian and the Kardashian sisters are not seen as White on Stormfront. Both countries are geographically located outside of Europe, both are gold chain wearing countries where they speak with a Borat accent if they have a grasp of the English language, and they are surrounded by countries that end with stan.

    “Both countries are geographically located outside of Europe”: but where you draw the European boundary thereabouts is entirely arbitrary. There’s no handy isthmus to provide a natural boundary as there is for Asia/Africa or North/South America.

    • Replies: @syonredux

    “Both countries are geographically located outside of Europe”: but where you draw the European boundary thereabouts is entirely arbitrary. There’s no handy isthmus to provide a natural boundary as there is for Asia/Africa or North/South America.
     
    Keep on expecting cartographers to say "to Hell with it", Europe and Asia are one continent: Eurasia
    , @Hippopotamusdrome


    where you draw the European boundary

     

    SNL 10/22/88


    Saturday Night Live Transcripts
    Season 14: Episode 3
    88c: John Larroquette / Randy Newman
    Vote Bush III
    [ show each President's head encircled over a North European country ]
    Announcer: Franklin Delano Roosevelt was of white northern European heritage.
    Thomas Jefferson was of white northern European heritage.
    John F. Kennedy was of white northern European heritage.
    George Herbert Walker Bush is of white northern European heritage.
    [ show Dukakis' encircled just above the Mediterranean Sea ]
    But Michael Dukakis?
    Bush. He's whiter.
    [ SUPER: "Bush. He's Whiter." ]

     

  97. Merkel is competing with Hitler to see who gets more Germans killed.

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
  98. It used to be that almost all men who did not wear a full beard were shaved by a barber of some sort. It was considered odd to shave yourself. But then we got the safety razor and it is now odd to have someone else shave you.

    When I was in the Army I made the contracted barber give me a shave. It was very cheap so I did it as a lark. The barber was terrified. He hadn’t used a straight razor since barber college. That didn’t do much for my equanimity either.

    It was a lousy shave and once per lifetime was quite enough. I’d never do anything like that again. But presumably all the Founding Fathers and gentlemen of that era had some servant scrape the whiskers off their throats with a straight razor every day.

    I started giving haircuts to myself when I was laid up with an injury and couldn’t get out to a barber. I was housebound for a year. That was about three years ago. My back is better now but I still cut my hair myself. It’s easy enough to do and not dangerous. All the electric clipper makers like Wahl sell kits with attachments for a man to cut his own hair.

    We need some technical breakthrough to make seeing the back of your head easier but that notwithstanding having someone else cut my hair seems kind of archaic. The big money obviously is in sex robots, but a good barbering robot should sell well too.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    Been using this for years: https://www.flowbee.com/
  99. @Lurker
    I hadn't realised Stormfront was now the final arbiter of white status.

    I am not from Stormfront and I also don’t consider Georgians or Armenians as white. If you consider Arabs non white then how can you accept people that look like them as white then ? Their location is also a problem, they are right next to the Middle East and are not part of Europe, the Central Asian and Middle Eastern contacts through history would surely mean that they have a high mixture of people from there.

    • Replies: @syonredux

    I am not from Stormfront and I also don’t consider Georgians or Armenians as white. If you consider Arabs non white then how can you accept people that look like them as white then ?
     
    Dunno. I have no trouble counting William Peter Blatty as White

    https://www.google.com/search?q=william+peter+blatty&espv=2&biw=1366&bih=638&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiYjNydq4HRAhXJqVQKHfUNDYgQ_AUICCgD
  100. I hear there are Muslim barbers who will do it for free. Only problem is, they take a little too much off the top.

  101. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Peter Akuleyev
    What are the odds your average barber/hair dresser would recognize young Joseph Stalin? And if he/she does know who Stalin is, he/she is probably an immigrant from the USSR and likely has some positive feelings toward Stalin.

    People who cut hair tend to be visual-spatial thinkers. That’s how they can do the job. They have better visual memories than you realize. I bet a number of female hair cutters would think he looks familiar if they’ve seen his picture somewhere before, although they might not be able to identify him as Stalin. They are aware of tiny details about a celebrity’s appearance so minor that a normal person would miss them.

  102. @John Derbyshire
    So Caucasians aren't white?

    They are not as literally white as the whitest white. The most complete (Yamnaya) conquest and extermination of all the native men and many of the native women was in early Bronze age north Europe, which is when and where fully white skin first appeared. So fully white skin has something to do with the preferential survival of the whiter women, and possibly children, at the mercy of merciless men.

  103. I don’t understand.
    The implication is that the barber is a … GIRL ??? !!! ?

  104. @Anonymous Nephew
    Breaking - nine dead as truck ploughs into Berlin Christmas market in clone of Nice attack. Driver then ran off. Well done Merkel.

    Guardian doesn't know "if it was an accident"!

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/dec/19/berlin-truck-crash-christmas-market-live

    "A co-driver of the truck that plowed into the Berlin Christmas market died during the crash, a police spokesman said on N24 television, according to Reuters.

    The other suspected driver was arrested near the scene, the AP reports."

    No.
    The Guardian newspaper knows exactly what has happened … but it is ultra selective in telling its readers … M for Mendacity …

  105. @Jefferson
    Joseph Stalin was a Georgian, which would disqualify him from being White in White Nationalist Stormfront circles because being a Georgian is practically the same thing as being an Armenian and the Kardashian sisters are not seen as White on Stormfront. Both countries are geographically located outside of Europe, both are gold chain wearing countries where they speak with a Borat accent if they have a grasp of the English language, and they are surrounded by countries that end with stan.

    Stormfront appears to be kicking all the R1a males out of the ‘white’ pool, and confining it to R1b-types.

  106. @Kyle McKenna
    Are we to believe that girls who cut hair will recognize a photo of the young Stalin?

    Kylie, You are absolutely correct, she probably wouldn’t recognize any photo of Stalin. Just tell her it’s a photo of your Grandpa Stash. Hell. tell her it’s Bernie Sanders when he was young.

  107. @snorlax
    I really doubt this is a genuine case of Sudden Jihad Syndrome. Turkey is a country where Occam's Razor really is not typically the best explanation, especially for things like this. Shooter was a police officer, which smells very Deep Statey. The question is which Deep State(s)? In rough descending order of probability:

    Turkish ([rogue] pro-Erdogan and/or anti-Erdogan and/or Gülen)
    Russian internal power struggle ([rogue] pro-Putin and/or kleptocrat)
    American/CIA (Obama's "retaliation" = provoke crisis w/ Turkey)
    Israeli/Mossad
    Qatari/Muslim Brotherhood
    Saudi/GCC

    “I really doubt this is a genuine case of Sudden Jihad Syndrome. Turkey is a country where Occam’s Razor really is not typically the best explanation,”

    Tell that to the Americans shot by a Jihadist Turk in a shopping mall in Washington state.

  108. @Anon
    All the American hairdressers I've ever known would have no idea what Stalin looks like, if they even knew who he was. The only hairdressers who would know him in a photo would be the macedonian immigrant women who work at Supercuts, and they wouldn't give a rats ass. Spot 'em an extra fiver, and they'll happily give you an early '30’s "Hitler Head Special."

    Anon, Wait, I may be misunderstanding you. Your barber, hairdresser, whatever , will give you head for a fiver? I have a very attractive female barber, a little edgy with some visible tattoos, but a pleasant, funny and attractive young lady. Problem is she doesn’t know how to use a straight razor to shave the back of my neck. The older barber would step in to do that. She always promises that she would learn to do it. So, one day in the barber shop, as I slide into her chair, I offhandedly said, “Well Carrie, have you started to shave yet?” Every guy in the shop turned to look as I said that. She smiled and replied, “My armpits and legs and nothing else that you’ll ever see.” I turned beet red and double tipped her. She gives a nice haircut.

  109. @dearieme
    "Both countries are geographically located outside of Europe": but where you draw the European boundary thereabouts is entirely arbitrary. There's no handy isthmus to provide a natural boundary as there is for Asia/Africa or North/South America.

    “Both countries are geographically located outside of Europe”: but where you draw the European boundary thereabouts is entirely arbitrary. There’s no handy isthmus to provide a natural boundary as there is for Asia/Africa or North/South America.

    Keep on expecting cartographers to say “to Hell with it”, Europe and Asia are one continent: Eurasia

  110. @Pat Boyle
    It used to be that almost all men who did not wear a full beard were shaved by a barber of some sort. It was considered odd to shave yourself. But then we got the safety razor and it is now odd to have someone else shave you.

    When I was in the Army I made the contracted barber give me a shave. It was very cheap so I did it as a lark. The barber was terrified. He hadn't used a straight razor since barber college. That didn't do much for my equanimity either.

    It was a lousy shave and once per lifetime was quite enough. I'd never do anything like that again. But presumably all the Founding Fathers and gentlemen of that era had some servant scrape the whiskers off their throats with a straight razor every day.

    I started giving haircuts to myself when I was laid up with an injury and couldn't get out to a barber. I was housebound for a year. That was about three years ago. My back is better now but I still cut my hair myself. It's easy enough to do and not dangerous. All the electric clipper makers like Wahl sell kits with attachments for a man to cut his own hair.

    We need some technical breakthrough to make seeing the back of your head easier but that notwithstanding having someone else cut my hair seems kind of archaic. The big money obviously is in sex robots, but a good barbering robot should sell well too.

    Been using this for years: https://www.flowbee.com/

  111. OT, but Trump did get the 270 electoral votes:

    http://www.breitbart.com/news/donald-trump-surpasses-270-votes-in-electoral-college-to-formally-win-presidency/

    Next question is, will this make the left finally sober up about the election conspiracies, or go still crazier?

    I’ve got to predict, go crazier.

    Hang on to your hats!

  112. @neutral
    I am not from Stormfront and I also don't consider Georgians or Armenians as white. If you consider Arabs non white then how can you accept people that look like them as white then ? Their location is also a problem, they are right next to the Middle East and are not part of Europe, the Central Asian and Middle Eastern contacts through history would surely mean that they have a high mixture of people from there.

    I am not from Stormfront and I also don’t consider Georgians or Armenians as white. If you consider Arabs non white then how can you accept people that look like them as white then ?

    Dunno. I have no trouble counting William Peter Blatty as White

    https://www.google.com/search?q=william+peter+blatty&espv=2&biw=1366&bih=638&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiYjNydq4HRAhXJqVQKHfUNDYgQ_AUICCgD

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "Dunno. I have no trouble counting William Peter Blatty as White"

    You are not a White Nationalist.
  113. @Anonymous
    If a blue-eyed, dark-haired person of European descent tries to hit on someone in Japan, a Japanese person will reply that, sorry, they aren’t interested in Arabs.

    Can confirm this is flat out wrong. Light eyes, dark hair, Western European ancestry.

    I know a (definitely not Arab) guy who says it happened to him more than once, but anyhow I wasn’t fully serious there.

  114. @Jefferson
    "I hadn’t realised Stormfront was now the final arbiter of white status."

    Most of the Alt-Right also agrees with Stormfront's view that Non Europeans like Georgians and Armenians are not White.

    So “Jefferson” is the arbiter of what the Alt Right is now.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "So “Jefferson” is the arbiter of what the Alt Right is now."

    Are you saying the Alt-Right openly embraces Non European Caucasoids into the White race? So does that mean the Alt-Right wants mass Non European Caucasoid immigration into Europe and North America? After all they are just helping make Europe and North America Whiter right?

    , @Hunsdon
    Yeah, but he's an Eye-tie so . . . is he qualified?
  115. @syonredux

    I am not from Stormfront and I also don’t consider Georgians or Armenians as white. If you consider Arabs non white then how can you accept people that look like them as white then ?
     
    Dunno. I have no trouble counting William Peter Blatty as White

    https://www.google.com/search?q=william+peter+blatty&espv=2&biw=1366&bih=638&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiYjNydq4HRAhXJqVQKHfUNDYgQ_AUICCgD

    “Dunno. I have no trouble counting William Peter Blatty as White”

    You are not a White Nationalist.

    • Replies: @syonredux

    “Dunno. I have no trouble counting William Peter Blatty as White”

    You are not a White Nationalist.
     
    On the other hand, I want America to have a European super-majority in terms of population (an America that's 90% European sounds just about right).
  116. Young Stalin looks like he could be a cousin of the Tsarnaev brothers.

  117. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Looks like Wham! era George Michael. Or Al Pacino’s hair in Heat. Here he’s ranting about ass in the original German.

    This is a little thank you for your LOL :

    The Mills Brothers from Piqua , Ohio . Their career ran from the teens of the 20th century till the 70′ s .

    • Replies: @donut
    Some for real professional musicians :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS9U75YC-jA
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Nice little tune! Merry Christmas, donut.
  118. @Jack Hanson
    So "Jefferson" is the arbiter of what the Alt Right is now.

    “So “Jefferson” is the arbiter of what the Alt Right is now.”

    Are you saying the Alt-Right openly embraces Non European Caucasoids into the White race? So does that mean the Alt-Right wants mass Non European Caucasoid immigration into Europe and North America? After all they are just helping make Europe and North America Whiter right?

  119. Donald Trump wins Electoral College – as attempts to cause rebellion turn to farce with DEMOCRATS deserting Hillary

    Calls for Trump to be voted down by members of the Electoral College were roundly ignored on Monday – with only two ‘faithless’ Republican electors rejecting him and four deserting Democrat Hillary Clinton.

    Haha, love it.

  120. @snorlax
    According to some people on Stormfront anyone with brown hair and brown eyes is Not White.

    According to them Joseph Goebbels, George Wallace and P.W. Botha were Non-Whites, like Tupac Shakur and Scarlett Johansson.

    The Stormfront assessment isn't quite as strict as the Japanese assessment. According to the Japanese, White people are all blond.

    If a blue-eyed, dark-haired person of European descent tries to hit on someone in Japan, a Japanese person will reply that, sorry, they aren't interested in Arabs.

    The Japanese think that dark-haired people who aren't from the Middle East are Japanese, but holding their eyes open really wide.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K1kO2qdRKE

    “If a blue-eyed, dark-haired person of European descent tries to hit on someone in Japan, a Japanese person will reply that, sorry, they aren’t interested in Arabs.”

    I call bullshit on your claim that the Japanese associate Arabs with having blue eyes, when the vast majority of Arabs do not even have blue eyes. There is not a single Arab country where blue eyed people are even a plurality, let alone a majority.
    http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/4581457/1/

    • Replies: @Foreign Expert
    Funny thing about Japanese taste in white people. I had a Brit friend in japan: tall, good-looking, good pedigree (rowed for Cambridge), blonde, etc. The kind of guy, if he'd been in America, the girls would have been lining up, on their knees, for two city blocks. He wasn't popular in japan. Maybe TOO Caucasian?
    , @snorlax
    i.e. Japanese think dark-haired Caucasians look Arab regardless of eye color.
  121. @Jack Hanson
    So "Jefferson" is the arbiter of what the Alt Right is now.

    Yeah, but he’s an Eye-tie so . . . is he qualified?

  122. @SPMoore8
    All of this was pretty much exhausted by Laud Humphrey in the 1960's, along with the idea of the "breastplate of righteousness."

    Basic idea is that straight men or men who identify with being straight will occasionally have same sex encounters.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tearoom_Trade

    My theory on this follows Schopenhauer who held that as men age, and are physiologically less spontaneous with sex, and less able to procreate let alone raise the products of their procreation, there is a strong tendency to become asexual on the one hand, or engage in some pederasty on the other hand. (One of the appendices to Part 2 of "World as Will and Representation"). To which, following iSteve, we could add a third possibility, the desire to become a woman.

    Here in Brazil we say old guys become gay. Seems a little true, at least here. A lot of old perverts around it seems

  123. A bit of sanity from MarketWatch’s James Campbell:

    Hillary Clinton supporters need to quit whining about the Electoral College

    First, had the election been conducted with rules awarding the presidency to the popular-vote winner, the candidates and many voters quite probably would have acted very differently, and the popular vote might not have been the same. Trump and Clinton would have campaigned in the “safe” states. Potential voters in those states would have felt more pressure to turn out and to vote for “the lesser of two evils” and not to waste their votes on third-party candidates. Some additional Clinton voters would probably have shown up, but gains on the Trump side would probably have been larger as more reluctant Republicans would have been pushed to return to the fold, particularly in big blue states like California, New York and Illinois.

    In short, a comparison of the national popular vote as cast and the electoral-vote division is no simple matter. This is particularly true in our age of pervasive polling in which people should have a good idea about whether they live in a state where their presidential vote might make a difference.

    I’ll go a bit further: every American voted in this election. Each State gets a number of EVs, according to the census tally of its population. People who choose not to vote are essentially deferring their decision to the popular vote in their State. Each State decides how it awards its EVs, and all but two States have decided to award them winner-take-all, to maximize their citizens’ political clout. In a very real sense (much more real than a simple-minded count of the legally meaningless popular vote), Trump won the popular vote.

  124. @RadicalCenter
    Did not know that. Interesting, thank you.

    Our family is considering a move to the capital of Hayastan: Glendale, California.

    Armenians flock to the most Midwestern parts of Southern California: Glendale, Burkbank, Pasadena. They’re like exotic, clannish Iowans in their tastes. I just went to The Americana in Glendale to see “La La Land,” and developer Rick Caruso built his outdoor shopping mall to look like the downtown of a prosperous Ohio town in 1912. Armenians love the Americana on Brand.

    • Replies: @Anon
    Yeah but the most Midwestern place of all in SoCal is Lakewood.
  125. • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    You used to be able to walk Cypress Point during the Crosby, but then the PGA/USGA imposed racial quotas on membership for tournament courses, so Cypress dropped out of hosting spectators. But they let Condi Rice join, so now they're good.
  126. @snorlax

    they are surrounded by countries that end with stan.
     
    "Armenia" in Armenian is Hayastan.

    England is known as Inglistan in Middle East and South Asia. This is an ancient name and different from the more recent Londonistan.

  127. @Hodag
    http://www.usga.org/articles/2016/12/seminole--cypress-point-named-future-walker-cup-sites.html

    You used to be able to walk Cypress Point during the Crosby, but then the PGA/USGA imposed racial quotas on membership for tournament courses, so Cypress dropped out of hosting spectators. But they let Condi Rice join, so now they’re good.

  128. @Kylie
    Looks like Dzhokhar Tsarnaev.

    Not sure if true, but I heard the Berlin truck terrorist was a chechen.

  129. @dearieme
    "Both countries are geographically located outside of Europe": but where you draw the European boundary thereabouts is entirely arbitrary. There's no handy isthmus to provide a natural boundary as there is for Asia/Africa or North/South America.

    where you draw the European boundary

    SNL 10/22/88

    Saturday Night Live Transcripts
    Season 14: Episode 3
    88c: John Larroquette / Randy Newman
    Vote Bush III
    [ show each President’s head encircled over a North European country ]
    Announcer: Franklin Delano Roosevelt was of white northern European heritage.
    Thomas Jefferson was of white northern European heritage.
    John F. Kennedy was of white northern European heritage.
    George Herbert Walker Bush is of white northern European heritage.
    [ show Dukakis’ encircled just above the Mediterranean Sea ]
    But Michael Dukakis?
    Bush. He’s whiter.
    [ SUPER: “Bush. He’s Whiter.” ]

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    America has elected a Black president, but never a Southern European president. Typical Black privilege.
  130. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @RadicalCenter
    Any American who feels a debt to FDR for his war "leadership" is misinformed or morally sick.

    FDR provoked, harassed, economically harmed, and threatened Japan until Japan finally attacked in an attempt to strike before its fossil-fuel supplies ran out.

    IMO, FDR also got the USA into the European theater when he should have kept us out entirely. If we were going to intervene, it's not clear that we should have intervened on the side of the USSR.

    FDR was a warmonger, a liar, and should be considered one of the worst presidents in US history -- a title with a lot of competition (Obama, W Bush, Woodrow Wilson, etc.).

    One of my relatives did his utmost to talk the American authorities into halting all oil sales to Japan before the Pearl Harbor attack. He was in living China when the Japanese invaded that country, and he was witness to the slaughter and abuse the Japanese inflicted on the civilian Chinese population. Rape of Nanking, anyone? The latter happened a full 4 years before Pearl Harbor. The Japanese were running amok all over southeast Asia and murdering civilians for years before the US entered the war.

    What would your alternative been? Just let the Japanese continue conquering country after country and slaughtering people en masse like Pol Pot? For what purpose? It didn’t serve a military purpose to let the Japanese get an edge up on us by seizing friendly or neutral territory which we would have to liberate, and it certainly didn’t serve a moral purpose to let the Japanese military continue to commit acts of insane brutality.

    Leaving Japan alone would have been like leaving Hitler alone. The Japanese fully earned their fuel boycott and later ass-kicking from the US.

    • Replies: @Anon
    Yeah, but using that logic, why did the US back the Soviets who'd done similarly horrible things?

    Also, how did Japan get into the imperialist business in the first place?
    It was given encouragement by US and UK to serve as counter to Russian encroachment on Asia.

    And if US cared about China, why did it ask Soviets to enter and hand over entire areas to communists, thus fomenting a civil war that killed millions more?

    And I don't recall US gave a crap about Suharto's regime that killed 300,000 in East Timor.

    I agree Japan had no business invading China and deserved to lose, but US was not motivated by idealism in its war plans in WWII.

  131. Nothing like LBJ for ordering presidential pants too.

    “I need six pairs for summer wear..Make sure you have the best zippers.”

  132. @RadicalCenter
    Any American who feels a debt to FDR for his war "leadership" is misinformed or morally sick.

    FDR provoked, harassed, economically harmed, and threatened Japan until Japan finally attacked in an attempt to strike before its fossil-fuel supplies ran out.

    IMO, FDR also got the USA into the European theater when he should have kept us out entirely. If we were going to intervene, it's not clear that we should have intervened on the side of the USSR.

    FDR was a warmonger, a liar, and should be considered one of the worst presidents in US history -- a title with a lot of competition (Obama, W Bush, Woodrow Wilson, etc.).

    FDR provoked, harassed, economically harmed, and threatened Japan until Japan finally attacked in an attempt to strike before its fossil-fuel supplies ran out.

    Difficult to feel sorry for Imperial Japan, the nation that gave the world the Rape of Nanking, wholesale slaughter in Manila, the medical “experiments ” of Unit 731, the Three Alls Policy ( “kill all, burn all, loot all”), etc

    And if they wanted to commit “suicide-by-America”…..

    IMO, FDR also got the USA into the European theater when he should have kept us out entirely. If we were going to intervene, it’s not clear that we should have intervened on the side of the USSR.

    Better than Hitler, dear fellow. Stalin’s main killing phase (Holodomor, Great Terror) was winding down by ’39, whereas Hitler was just warming up….And if he had won, well, things would have been rather unpleasant in the East:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunger_Plan

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost

    • Replies: @Anon
    "Difficult to feel sorry for Imperial Japan, the nation that gave the world the Rape of Nanking, wholesale slaughter in Manila, the medical “experiments ” of Unit 731, the Three Alls Policy ( “kill all, burn all, loot all”), etc..."

    That's all very true, but how much of FDR's policy had to do with moral concerns?

    I think there was some. I don't think FDR's opposition to Hitler was only geo-political. He did see the Far Right in both Europe and US as a real evil and threat. He underestimated the danger posed by the Soviets, but in terms of rhetoric, at least communism called on brotherhood of man whereas Hitler was ranting about German superiority.

    FDR was clearly more concerned about Europe than about Asia, so one wonders how much he really cared about Japan's brutal actions in China.

    Also, the main supporters of China were the Luces of Time-Life, but this was problematic for FDR. Luces were conservative and very close to Chiang and KMT, which FDR and many progressives of the time didn't care for. Indeed, because of Chiang's violent repression of communists and turn against the USSR(Chiang was close to Nazi Germany before it drew closer to Japan), many on the international left had a kneejerk hatred of Chiang and romanticized Mao and the communists who were called 'agrarian reformers'. Edgar Snow's gushing account RED STAR OVER CHINA was a big hit among not only Leftists but Liberals.

    Granted, Chiang and Mao finally made common against Japan, but the two sides were often fighting one another as against Japan. And many Western leftists secretly took delight from the fact that KMT was being weakened by Japan. Mao saw a chance too, which is why communists tried to avoid most engagements with Japan.

    Now, given American missionaries and media power of Luce empire, many Americans did come to see China as the noble defender against rapacious Japan. But the fact that most Americans favored 'isolation' up to Pearl Harbor shows that most of them didn't care about dead Chinese or Russians. They just wanted to stay out, partly because so many Americans were of German origin.

    And later history shows that humanitarianism has never been a big factor in American consciousness. US didn't do anything to save Rwanda. Nixon met with Mao during the Cultural Revolution that had destroyed millions of lives.
    And in the 80s, when Hussein's Iraq initiated the attack on Iran, US tacitly supported Iraq even though it was the aggressor. And US even allowed for indirect arms supplies to Iraq that even used poison gas. As long as Iraq was America's proxy against Iran, there was no concern whatsoever. It was only when Iraq turned on Kuwait that US began to wail about 'humanitarian' concerns. But then, most Americans didn't care that US sanctions were destroying 100,00os of Iraqi children.

    Foreign policy is like this. It is gangster politics. China never admitted to its horrible role in supporting the Khmer Rouge. Soviets never owned up to all the terrible insurgencies it funded. And US has only tepidly admitted to its role in Afghanistan that turned into 9/11 in the long run. And Obama and Hillary, sociopaths both, will not own up to Libya and Syria. For Obama, Libya was the biggest 'mistake' of his presidency. 'Mistake' that destroyed an entire nation. Like spilling milk. Oops.

    The best lesson from this is Empires are bad. Don't build empires. As Buchanan said in one of his book, Republic, Not an Empire.

    Granted, I don't think FDR's anti-Japan policy was necessarily imperialist even though US did end up becoming the dominant quasi-imperial power in the Pacific after WWII.
    The sheer confused nature of US policy in Asia in 1945 shows it had no clear plan or agenda.

    One could argue FDR was aiding the nationalist aspirations of China against the imperialist ambitions of Japan. And to the extent that he disapproved of British and French empires and their arrogant attitudes, there was probably some degree of idealism. But what a confused and contradictory policy he cooked up in Eastern Europe and Asia.
  133. @Jefferson
    "Dunno. I have no trouble counting William Peter Blatty as White"

    You are not a White Nationalist.

    “Dunno. I have no trouble counting William Peter Blatty as White”

    You are not a White Nationalist.

    On the other hand, I want America to have a European super-majority in terms of population (an America that’s 90% European sounds just about right).

  134. @John Mansfield
    The scary thing that Putin photo makes me think of that I hadn't before (besides Home Alone) is that Putin grew up and prospered in the society that Stalin left behind. I see Putin was born five months before Stalin died.

    The scary thing (…) is that Putin grew up and prospered in the society that Stalin left behind.

    This is a demented argument.

  135. @Andrei Martyanov
    You mean Jewish immigration? This is not to dispute the thesis of Stalin not being a great humanitarian but most of immigration from USSR to United States is Jewish.

    Also, all the Ukranians i’ve ever known hated Stalin passionately(for obvious reasons of course)

  136. @Hippopotamusdrome


    where you draw the European boundary

     

    SNL 10/22/88


    Saturday Night Live Transcripts
    Season 14: Episode 3
    88c: John Larroquette / Randy Newman
    Vote Bush III
    [ show each President's head encircled over a North European country ]
    Announcer: Franklin Delano Roosevelt was of white northern European heritage.
    Thomas Jefferson was of white northern European heritage.
    John F. Kennedy was of white northern European heritage.
    George Herbert Walker Bush is of white northern European heritage.
    [ show Dukakis' encircled just above the Mediterranean Sea ]
    But Michael Dukakis?
    Bush. He's whiter.
    [ SUPER: "Bush. He's Whiter." ]

     

    America has elected a Black president, but never a Southern European president. Typical Black privilege.

  137. The young JS looks vaguely like a late 80s Christian Slater (eg. in Heathers).

  138. Young Putin kind of reminds me of Macaulay Culkin in The Good Son

    A good mildly scary movie for a tween.

  139. @Steve Sailer
    Armenians flock to the most Midwestern parts of Southern California: Glendale, Burkbank, Pasadena. They're like exotic, clannish Iowans in their tastes. I just went to The Americana in Glendale to see "La La Land," and developer Rick Caruso built his outdoor shopping mall to look like the downtown of a prosperous Ohio town in 1912. Armenians love the Americana on Brand.

    Yeah but the most Midwestern place of all in SoCal is Lakewood.

    • Replies: @Danny
    As a longtime resident of Lakewood I can vouch for this. It is one of the few areas left in the region that seems to have a sizable blue-collar white presence. The surrounding cities went majority Hispanic many moons ago
  140. @Romanian
    You heard it here first

    http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2016/12/why-straight-rural-men-have-gay-bud-sex-with-each-other.html

    And what is your point?

    • Replies: @Romanian
    I thought we were encouraged to post curios that point to the political and cultural enmity between rural and urban America. This one is particularly hilarious, since it doubles as a sort of libel. Sort of like the "Hitler has one testicle and was a gay secret Jew" stories (which I have no idea whether they are true or not).
  141. @Patrick Harris
    I think I mentioned this on another thread, but I recently showed a picture of Richard Spencer to my barber to get a toned-down version of the fashy cut. He's not really my cup of tea, but hey, the guy looks sharp.

    Fortunately he is not yet a household face, but it still felt a mite transgressive.

    Hell… I just show them a picture of Ralph Fiennes in Schindler’s List from the Google on my phone. They don’t know nothing.

  142. @eah
    without showing the girl who cuts my hair a picture of Joseph Stalin?

    Is there really anything to worry about here? -- what are the chances the average young hair Schneiderin ("girl") would recognize Stalin? -- pretty near nil, I would say -- sheesh.

    OT (but also not a bad Frisur)

    Avid readers should consider My Life, the autobiography of Leon Trotsky (((Lev Davidovich Bronstein))) — I read it during my university days and found it engrossing.

  143. @tz
    Stalin below Mao? Why?

    The Commies in the U.S. were allied with Stalin and not Mao, and so didn’t work to cover Mao’s crimes as diligently as they covered up Stalin’s.

  144. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    One of my relatives did his utmost to talk the American authorities into halting all oil sales to Japan before the Pearl Harbor attack. He was in living China when the Japanese invaded that country, and he was witness to the slaughter and abuse the Japanese inflicted on the civilian Chinese population. Rape of Nanking, anyone? The latter happened a full 4 years before Pearl Harbor. The Japanese were running amok all over southeast Asia and murdering civilians for years before the US entered the war.

    What would your alternative been? Just let the Japanese continue conquering country after country and slaughtering people en masse like Pol Pot? For what purpose? It didn't serve a military purpose to let the Japanese get an edge up on us by seizing friendly or neutral territory which we would have to liberate, and it certainly didn't serve a moral purpose to let the Japanese military continue to commit acts of insane brutality.

    Leaving Japan alone would have been like leaving Hitler alone. The Japanese fully earned their fuel boycott and later ass-kicking from the US.

    Yeah, but using that logic, why did the US back the Soviets who’d done similarly horrible things?

    Also, how did Japan get into the imperialist business in the first place?
    It was given encouragement by US and UK to serve as counter to Russian encroachment on Asia.

    And if US cared about China, why did it ask Soviets to enter and hand over entire areas to communists, thus fomenting a civil war that killed millions more?

    And I don’t recall US gave a crap about Suharto’s regime that killed 300,000 in East Timor.

    I agree Japan had no business invading China and deserved to lose, but US was not motivated by idealism in its war plans in WWII.

    • Replies: @syonredux

    I agree Japan had no business invading China and deserved to lose, but US was not motivated by idealism in its war plans in WWII.
     
    I should hope not.
  145. @Anon
    Yeah, but using that logic, why did the US back the Soviets who'd done similarly horrible things?

    Also, how did Japan get into the imperialist business in the first place?
    It was given encouragement by US and UK to serve as counter to Russian encroachment on Asia.

    And if US cared about China, why did it ask Soviets to enter and hand over entire areas to communists, thus fomenting a civil war that killed millions more?

    And I don't recall US gave a crap about Suharto's regime that killed 300,000 in East Timor.

    I agree Japan had no business invading China and deserved to lose, but US was not motivated by idealism in its war plans in WWII.

    I agree Japan had no business invading China and deserved to lose, but US was not motivated by idealism in its war plans in WWII.

    I should hope not.

    • Replies: @Anon
    Idealism is a double-edged sword. Gets in the way of realism but comes in handy to justify what is really realpolitik, tribalpolitik, and financialpolitik.

    Take the founding of Israel. Palestinians had NOTHING to do with WWI, WWII, Holocaust, Fascism, Communism, Imperialism, and etc. Zero, Zilch, Nada.

    But they got destroyed and had to pay the price for the 'sins' of the West.
    Or so suggests the Narrative.

    But US has been invoking idealism to justify Nakba forever.

    At this point, it's a done deal, and Israel is here to stay and had admirable qualities too.

    But isn't it time for US to admit to its role in Nakba, acknowledge and Palestinian tragedy, and provide something for Palestinian nationhood? US preaches to other nations to own up to their dark past but refuses to address this. US prides itself on owning up to its own 'racist' past but the very people who denounce past segregation in the US are totally supportive of segregationist policies in West Bank.

    It's all tribalpolitik but all we hear is bogus idealism like "Israel's interests is our interests."

    Btw, if 'America' is an idea, it means the INSTA-AMERI-KIT has to feature instructions for all nations to say "Israel's interests are our interests." So, 'Americans' in Kenya would say Israeli interests are their interests, 'Americans' in Philippines would say Israeli interests are their interests, and etc. How utterly ludicrous.
    The kit would also offer instructions on 'twerking', tattooing, and invoking 'muh constitution' to justify 'gay marriage'.
  146. @Kyle McKenna
    Are we to believe that girls who cut hair will recognize a photo of the young Stalin?

    I doubt many people at all would look at that photo and think “Joseph Stalin.”

    I have seen several photos of Josib Djugashvilli (as he was known then, spellings vary) but none made enough of an impression that I would have recognized the him in those photos.

    In addition, I think a man would have to have thick, slightly wavy hair to get the same effect. Putin’s hair is thin and poker straight.

  147. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @syonredux

    I agree Japan had no business invading China and deserved to lose, but US was not motivated by idealism in its war plans in WWII.
     
    I should hope not.

    Idealism is a double-edged sword. Gets in the way of realism but comes in handy to justify what is really realpolitik, tribalpolitik, and financialpolitik.

    Take the founding of Israel. Palestinians had NOTHING to do with WWI, WWII, Holocaust, Fascism, Communism, Imperialism, and etc. Zero, Zilch, Nada.

    But they got destroyed and had to pay the price for the ‘sins’ of the West.
    Or so suggests the Narrative.

    But US has been invoking idealism to justify Nakba forever.

    At this point, it’s a done deal, and Israel is here to stay and had admirable qualities too.

    But isn’t it time for US to admit to its role in Nakba, acknowledge and Palestinian tragedy, and provide something for Palestinian nationhood? US preaches to other nations to own up to their dark past but refuses to address this. US prides itself on owning up to its own ‘racist’ past but the very people who denounce past segregation in the US are totally supportive of segregationist policies in West Bank.

    It’s all tribalpolitik but all we hear is bogus idealism like “Israel’s interests is our interests.”

    Btw, if ‘America’ is an idea, it means the INSTA-AMERI-KIT has to feature instructions for all nations to say “Israel’s interests are our interests.” So, ‘Americans’ in Kenya would say Israeli interests are their interests, ‘Americans’ in Philippines would say Israeli interests are their interests, and etc. How utterly ludicrous.
    The kit would also offer instructions on ‘twerking’, tattooing, and invoking ‘muh constitution’ to justify ‘gay marriage’.

  148. @Jefferson
    "If a blue-eyed, dark-haired person of European descent tries to hit on someone in Japan, a Japanese person will reply that, sorry, they aren’t interested in Arabs."

    I call bullshit on your claim that the Japanese associate Arabs with having blue eyes, when the vast majority of Arabs do not even have blue eyes. There is not a single Arab country where blue eyed people are even a plurality, let alone a majority.
    http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/4581457/1/

    Funny thing about Japanese taste in white people. I had a Brit friend in japan: tall, good-looking, good pedigree (rowed for Cambridge), blonde, etc. The kind of guy, if he’d been in America, the girls would have been lining up, on their knees, for two city blocks. He wasn’t popular in japan. Maybe TOO Caucasian?

  149. @Anon
    Yeah but the most Midwestern place of all in SoCal is Lakewood.

    As a longtime resident of Lakewood I can vouch for this. It is one of the few areas left in the region that seems to have a sizable blue-collar white presence. The surrounding cities went majority Hispanic many moons ago

    • Replies: @Kal F

    As a longtime resident of Lakewood I can vouch for this. It is one of the few areas left in the region that seems to have a sizable blue-collar white presence. The surrounding cities went majority Hispanic many moons ago
     
    Speaking of which, I don't live in Lakewood, but I was there for some reason, and wound up driving down a residential street. As I was driving, I noticed an old cockapoo, accompanied by a little cocker spaniel, walking down the sidewalk together, no owner in sight. I knew they wouldn't last long wandering around alone, so I pulled over and got out to catch them, and about the same time some old man came walking around the corner with the same idea.
    I got the dogs to go into my backseat, and the old guy got in my front seat, and we drove a couple of blocks to his house, where his daughter came out, and helped us get them into some carrier cages he had. They had tags so I left as he was calling the owners on his cell phone.
    I said "so long," and went on with my business.
    How midwestern (white) is that?
    Community trust between strangers who's backgrounds are the same is real, folks.
  150. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    According to the WaPo the fashy cut is known among hipsters as the Hitler Youth Haircut -- not to be confused with the Young Hitler Haircut -- but now things are getting too real.

    According to the WaPo the fashy cut is known among hipsters as the Hitler Youth Haircut — not to be confused with the Young Hitler Haircut — but now things are getting too real.

    The Young Hitler haircut was pretty badass, no matter who’s side you were on.

    With the right hair, it works:

    If taken too far, you will not get laid. Even hair-dressers will call you a Nazi:

  151. I feel like I read on iSteve a long time ago that Georgians (including Joseph Stalin) don’t go bald.

  152. @Danny
    As a longtime resident of Lakewood I can vouch for this. It is one of the few areas left in the region that seems to have a sizable blue-collar white presence. The surrounding cities went majority Hispanic many moons ago

    As a longtime resident of Lakewood I can vouch for this. It is one of the few areas left in the region that seems to have a sizable blue-collar white presence. The surrounding cities went majority Hispanic many moons ago

    Speaking of which, I don’t live in Lakewood, but I was there for some reason, and wound up driving down a residential street. As I was driving, I noticed an old cockapoo, accompanied by a little cocker spaniel, walking down the sidewalk together, no owner in sight. I knew they wouldn’t last long wandering around alone, so I pulled over and got out to catch them, and about the same time some old man came walking around the corner with the same idea.
    I got the dogs to go into my backseat, and the old guy got in my front seat, and we drove a couple of blocks to his house, where his daughter came out, and helped us get them into some carrier cages he had. They had tags so I left as he was calling the owners on his cell phone.
    I said “so long,” and went on with my business.
    How midwestern (white) is that?
    Community trust between strangers who’s backgrounds are the same is real, folks.

    • Replies: @Danny
    Great story. Yes, we still have a bit of that in Lakewood. Less so the further west you go toward north Long Beach and Bellflower. A shame
  153. Mickey Maose haircut.

    Cochise Chic

  154. @Daniel H
    I want LBJ's hairstyle. Neat, clean, expresses gravitas. Problem is, I still have a bit of a cowlick and I have to really grease it down.

    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/war_stories/2012/05/robert_caro_s_new_history_of_lbj_offers_a_mistaken_account_of_the_cuban_missile_crisis.html

    LBJ’s hairstyle after his presidency was also memorable.

    • Replies: @Daniel H
    Last year of his life. He was letting it all hang out. Still looks pretty cool, in a Willie Nelson sort of way.
  155. Hussein Yazdanpanah, of the Kurdistan Freedom Party, looks like Joseph Stalin.

    http://weirdrussia.com/2015/11/18/hussein-yazdanpanah-stalin-look-alike/

  156. What were Uncle Joe’s chances of being given a bad haircut? Near nil.

  157. The Prugly look… with the exception of Dashing Dale who just got swept up with the foul crowd.

  158. @donut
    This is a little thank you for your LOL :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8myK93FqbYc

    The Mills Brothers from Piqua , Ohio . Their career ran from the teens of the 20th century till the 70' s .

    Some for real professional musicians :

  159. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @syonredux

    FDR provoked, harassed, economically harmed, and threatened Japan until Japan finally attacked in an attempt to strike before its fossil-fuel supplies ran out.
     
    Difficult to feel sorry for Imperial Japan, the nation that gave the world the Rape of Nanking, wholesale slaughter in Manila, the medical "experiments " of Unit 731, the Three Alls Policy ( "kill all, burn all, loot all"), etc

    And if they wanted to commit "suicide-by-America".....

    IMO, FDR also got the USA into the European theater when he should have kept us out entirely. If we were going to intervene, it’s not clear that we should have intervened on the side of the USSR.
     
    Better than Hitler, dear fellow. Stalin's main killing phase (Holodomor, Great Terror) was winding down by '39, whereas Hitler was just warming up....And if he had won, well, things would have been rather unpleasant in the East:


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunger_Plan


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost

    “Difficult to feel sorry for Imperial Japan, the nation that gave the world the Rape of Nanking, wholesale slaughter in Manila, the medical “experiments ” of Unit 731, the Three Alls Policy ( “kill all, burn all, loot all”), etc…”

    That’s all very true, but how much of FDR’s policy had to do with moral concerns?

    I think there was some. I don’t think FDR’s opposition to Hitler was only geo-political. He did see the Far Right in both Europe and US as a real evil and threat. He underestimated the danger posed by the Soviets, but in terms of rhetoric, at least communism called on brotherhood of man whereas Hitler was ranting about German superiority.

    FDR was clearly more concerned about Europe than about Asia, so one wonders how much he really cared about Japan’s brutal actions in China.

    Also, the main supporters of China were the Luces of Time-Life, but this was problematic for FDR. Luces were conservative and very close to Chiang and KMT, which FDR and many progressives of the time didn’t care for. Indeed, because of Chiang’s violent repression of communists and turn against the USSR(Chiang was close to Nazi Germany before it drew closer to Japan), many on the international left had a kneejerk hatred of Chiang and romanticized Mao and the communists who were called ‘agrarian reformers’. Edgar Snow’s gushing account RED STAR OVER CHINA was a big hit among not only Leftists but Liberals.

    Granted, Chiang and Mao finally made common against Japan, but the two sides were often fighting one another as against Japan. And many Western leftists secretly took delight from the fact that KMT was being weakened by Japan. Mao saw a chance too, which is why communists tried to avoid most engagements with Japan.

    Now, given American missionaries and media power of Luce empire, many Americans did come to see China as the noble defender against rapacious Japan. But the fact that most Americans favored ‘isolation’ up to Pearl Harbor shows that most of them didn’t care about dead Chinese or Russians. They just wanted to stay out, partly because so many Americans were of German origin.

    And later history shows that humanitarianism has never been a big factor in American consciousness. US didn’t do anything to save Rwanda. Nixon met with Mao during the Cultural Revolution that had destroyed millions of lives.
    And in the 80s, when Hussein’s Iraq initiated the attack on Iran, US tacitly supported Iraq even though it was the aggressor. And US even allowed for indirect arms supplies to Iraq that even used poison gas. As long as Iraq was America’s proxy against Iran, there was no concern whatsoever. It was only when Iraq turned on Kuwait that US began to wail about ‘humanitarian’ concerns. But then, most Americans didn’t care that US sanctions were destroying 100,00os of Iraqi children.

    Foreign policy is like this. It is gangster politics. China never admitted to its horrible role in supporting the Khmer Rouge. Soviets never owned up to all the terrible insurgencies it funded. And US has only tepidly admitted to its role in Afghanistan that turned into 9/11 in the long run. And Obama and Hillary, sociopaths both, will not own up to Libya and Syria. For Obama, Libya was the biggest ‘mistake’ of his presidency. ‘Mistake’ that destroyed an entire nation. Like spilling milk. Oops.

    The best lesson from this is Empires are bad. Don’t build empires. As Buchanan said in one of his book, Republic, Not an Empire.

    Granted, I don’t think FDR’s anti-Japan policy was necessarily imperialist even though US did end up becoming the dominant quasi-imperial power in the Pacific after WWII.
    The sheer confused nature of US policy in Asia in 1945 shows it had no clear plan or agenda.

    One could argue FDR was aiding the nationalist aspirations of China against the imperialist ambitions of Japan. And to the extent that he disapproved of British and French empires and their arrogant attitudes, there was probably some degree of idealism. But what a confused and contradictory policy he cooked up in Eastern Europe and Asia.

    • Replies: @syonredux

    “Difficult to feel sorry for Imperial Japan, the nation that gave the world the Rape of Nanking, wholesale slaughter in Manila, the medical “experiments ” of Unit 731, the Three Alls Policy ( “kill all, burn all, loot all”), etc…”

    That’s all very true, but how much of FDR’s policy had to do with moral concerns?
     

    I should hope not too much. I'm more of a realpolitik man myself.

    My citing of Japan's sanguinary record circa 1937-45 is mostly meant to disabuse people of romantic notions regarding Imperial Japan.


    But what a confused and contradictory policy he cooked up in Eastern Europe and Asia.
     
    Yeah, but what country during the period 1937-45 actually was pursuing a completely rational foreign policy? Certainly not Germany (invading Poland in '39, the USSR in '41, unilaterally declaring war on the USA...), or the USSR (the Hitler-Stalin Pact didn't exactly work out the way Stalin thought that it would), or Imperial Japan ("Suicide-by-America")....
  160. @PiltdownMan
    LBJ's hairstyle after his presidency was also memorable.

    http://canyouactually.com/wp-content/uploads/lbj-long-hair.jpg

    Last year of his life. He was letting it all hang out. Still looks pretty cool, in a Willie Nelson sort of way.

  161. @donut
    This is a little thank you for your LOL :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8myK93FqbYc

    The Mills Brothers from Piqua , Ohio . Their career ran from the teens of the 20th century till the 70' s .

    Nice little tune! Merry Christmas, donut.

  162. I think young Dick Nixon bears more than a passing resemblance to young Dennis Miller:

    http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/lists/saturday-night-live-all-141-cast-members-ranked-20150211/34-dennis-miller-20150211

    Though Nixon has a very masculine jaw line, which was always over-emphasized by cartoonists:

    http://wilsonsketchblog.blogspot.com/2014/04/richard-nixon-cartoon-caricature.html

  163. I recommend a Mohawk.

    Does everyone notice what I notice now: A lot of faggy hipsters with fussy Stalin hairdos and fussy Victorian beards? They look like guys on an old cough drop box I remember, Smith Brothers I think.

    It’s the beards that get me. When I was a stupid, young hipster, I let my facial hair grow too. The idea then, though, was to be “natural,” let it grow. I looked shaggy and horrible. I remember as soon as I shaved it off my romantic life improved immensely!

    Also, they’re walking around in skinny pants. Last weekend — in our rich, white, SJW, Dumbocrat, New York Times-reading enclave — I saw one whose pants were really more like a woman’s leggings. He and his female companion were oh-so-precious. No evidence of ever doing any physical labor at all in their lives. And I would bet all my money on their political perspective and who they vote for.

    I’ve been saying “Merry Christmas” around here lately, when I pay for my groceries, etc. The range of facial expressions and responses I get are interesting…

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    Me too. I say Merry Christmas to everyone. If they don't like it, f**k 'em.
    , @syonredux

    Does everyone notice what I notice now: A lot of faggy hipsters with fussy Stalin hairdos and fussy Victorian beards? They look like guys on an old cough drop box I remember, Smith Brothers I think.
     
    Portlandia - Dream of the 1890s


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_HGqPGp9iY
  164. @Jefferson
    "If a blue-eyed, dark-haired person of European descent tries to hit on someone in Japan, a Japanese person will reply that, sorry, they aren’t interested in Arabs."

    I call bullshit on your claim that the Japanese associate Arabs with having blue eyes, when the vast majority of Arabs do not even have blue eyes. There is not a single Arab country where blue eyed people are even a plurality, let alone a majority.
    http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/4581457/1/

    i.e. Japanese think dark-haired Caucasians look Arab regardless of eye color.

  165. @Jefferson
    "According to them Joseph Goebbels, George Wallace and P.W. Botha were Non-Whites, like Tupac Shakur and Scarlett Johansson."

    Scarlett Johansson is a Person Of Color just like 2Pac?

    I’m poking fun at the “Jews aren’t white” crowd.

  166. I agree Japan had no business invading China and deserved to lose, but US was not motivated by idealism in its war plans in WWII.

    Idealism, no. Democrat/plutocrat fellow-traveling with the Soviets, yes.

  167. @Buzz Mohawk
    I recommend a Mohawk.

    Does everyone notice what I notice now: A lot of faggy hipsters with fussy Stalin hairdos and fussy Victorian beards? They look like guys on an old cough drop box I remember, Smith Brothers I think.

    It's the beards that get me. When I was a stupid, young hipster, I let my facial hair grow too. The idea then, though, was to be "natural," let it grow. I looked shaggy and horrible. I remember as soon as I shaved it off my romantic life improved immensely!

    Also, they're walking around in skinny pants. Last weekend -- in our rich, white, SJW, Dumbocrat, New York Times-reading enclave -- I saw one whose pants were really more like a woman's leggings. He and his female companion were oh-so-precious. No evidence of ever doing any physical labor at all in their lives. And I would bet all my money on their political perspective and who they vote for.

    I've been saying "Merry Christmas" around here lately, when I pay for my groceries, etc. The range of facial expressions and responses I get are interesting...

    Me too. I say Merry Christmas to everyone. If they don’t like it, f**k ’em.

  168. @Buzz Mohawk
    I recommend a Mohawk.

    Does everyone notice what I notice now: A lot of faggy hipsters with fussy Stalin hairdos and fussy Victorian beards? They look like guys on an old cough drop box I remember, Smith Brothers I think.

    It's the beards that get me. When I was a stupid, young hipster, I let my facial hair grow too. The idea then, though, was to be "natural," let it grow. I looked shaggy and horrible. I remember as soon as I shaved it off my romantic life improved immensely!

    Also, they're walking around in skinny pants. Last weekend -- in our rich, white, SJW, Dumbocrat, New York Times-reading enclave -- I saw one whose pants were really more like a woman's leggings. He and his female companion were oh-so-precious. No evidence of ever doing any physical labor at all in their lives. And I would bet all my money on their political perspective and who they vote for.

    I've been saying "Merry Christmas" around here lately, when I pay for my groceries, etc. The range of facial expressions and responses I get are interesting...

    Does everyone notice what I notice now: A lot of faggy hipsters with fussy Stalin hairdos and fussy Victorian beards? They look like guys on an old cough drop box I remember, Smith Brothers I think.

    Portlandia – Dream of the 1890s

  169. @snorlax

    they are surrounded by countries that end with stan.
     
    "Armenia" in Armenian is Hayastan.

    The Armenian language has a lot Persian loan words. (They’re both Indo-European languages. Side note: the -stan ending is akin to the English word “stand.”)

    There’s some kind of historical connection, likely pre dating Islam.

    When the Turks started killing Armenians during WW I, some escaped to Iran, who didn’t mind taking them (sadly, not many got away).

    They’re allies to this day.

  170. @Kal F

    As a longtime resident of Lakewood I can vouch for this. It is one of the few areas left in the region that seems to have a sizable blue-collar white presence. The surrounding cities went majority Hispanic many moons ago
     
    Speaking of which, I don't live in Lakewood, but I was there for some reason, and wound up driving down a residential street. As I was driving, I noticed an old cockapoo, accompanied by a little cocker spaniel, walking down the sidewalk together, no owner in sight. I knew they wouldn't last long wandering around alone, so I pulled over and got out to catch them, and about the same time some old man came walking around the corner with the same idea.
    I got the dogs to go into my backseat, and the old guy got in my front seat, and we drove a couple of blocks to his house, where his daughter came out, and helped us get them into some carrier cages he had. They had tags so I left as he was calling the owners on his cell phone.
    I said "so long," and went on with my business.
    How midwestern (white) is that?
    Community trust between strangers who's backgrounds are the same is real, folks.

    Great story. Yes, we still have a bit of that in Lakewood. Less so the further west you go toward north Long Beach and Bellflower. A shame

  171. @whorefinder
    given that people only know 1/100th of the awful Stalin did---he ranks far below Hitler and below Mao, Castro, and even Pol Pot in the ranks of "worst dictator in the average Joe's rankings"---I'm surprised this is even a thing.

    Only if Polish cinema became the world's leading movie makers would Stalin's crimes get the attention they deserve.

    Actually, Stalin’s record as far as Poland is concerned
    is mixed, and I’m not defending him in the least but
    Gen. Zhukov, directed by Stalin, in several months in 1945
    undid 1000 years of the German Drang nach Osten
    by pushing his army all the way to the ancient
    Limes Saxoniae along the Elbe-Saale rivers. The net result
    was that Germany lost 1/3 of its territory, and Poland went
    back to its 1000-year-old border along the Oder-Neisse rivers

    • Troll: SPMoore8
    • Replies: @syonredux
    Yeah. But, on the other hand, Poland also lost territory in the east:

    The prewar eastern Polish territories of Kresy, which the Red Army had overrun during the Nazi-Soviet invasion of Poland in 1939 (excluding the Białystok region) were permanently annexed by the USSR, and most of their Polish inhabitants expelled. As a result of the Potsdam agreement to which Poland's government-in-exile was not invited, Poland lost 179,000 km2 (45%) of prewar territories in the east, including over 12 million citizens of whom 4,3 million were ethnically the speakers of Polish. Today, these territories are part of sovereign Belarus, Ukraine, and Lithuania.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_changes_of_Poland_immediately_after_World_War_II
  172. @Anon
    "Difficult to feel sorry for Imperial Japan, the nation that gave the world the Rape of Nanking, wholesale slaughter in Manila, the medical “experiments ” of Unit 731, the Three Alls Policy ( “kill all, burn all, loot all”), etc..."

    That's all very true, but how much of FDR's policy had to do with moral concerns?

    I think there was some. I don't think FDR's opposition to Hitler was only geo-political. He did see the Far Right in both Europe and US as a real evil and threat. He underestimated the danger posed by the Soviets, but in terms of rhetoric, at least communism called on brotherhood of man whereas Hitler was ranting about German superiority.

    FDR was clearly more concerned about Europe than about Asia, so one wonders how much he really cared about Japan's brutal actions in China.

    Also, the main supporters of China were the Luces of Time-Life, but this was problematic for FDR. Luces were conservative and very close to Chiang and KMT, which FDR and many progressives of the time didn't care for. Indeed, because of Chiang's violent repression of communists and turn against the USSR(Chiang was close to Nazi Germany before it drew closer to Japan), many on the international left had a kneejerk hatred of Chiang and romanticized Mao and the communists who were called 'agrarian reformers'. Edgar Snow's gushing account RED STAR OVER CHINA was a big hit among not only Leftists but Liberals.

    Granted, Chiang and Mao finally made common against Japan, but the two sides were often fighting one another as against Japan. And many Western leftists secretly took delight from the fact that KMT was being weakened by Japan. Mao saw a chance too, which is why communists tried to avoid most engagements with Japan.

    Now, given American missionaries and media power of Luce empire, many Americans did come to see China as the noble defender against rapacious Japan. But the fact that most Americans favored 'isolation' up to Pearl Harbor shows that most of them didn't care about dead Chinese or Russians. They just wanted to stay out, partly because so many Americans were of German origin.

    And later history shows that humanitarianism has never been a big factor in American consciousness. US didn't do anything to save Rwanda. Nixon met with Mao during the Cultural Revolution that had destroyed millions of lives.
    And in the 80s, when Hussein's Iraq initiated the attack on Iran, US tacitly supported Iraq even though it was the aggressor. And US even allowed for indirect arms supplies to Iraq that even used poison gas. As long as Iraq was America's proxy against Iran, there was no concern whatsoever. It was only when Iraq turned on Kuwait that US began to wail about 'humanitarian' concerns. But then, most Americans didn't care that US sanctions were destroying 100,00os of Iraqi children.

    Foreign policy is like this. It is gangster politics. China never admitted to its horrible role in supporting the Khmer Rouge. Soviets never owned up to all the terrible insurgencies it funded. And US has only tepidly admitted to its role in Afghanistan that turned into 9/11 in the long run. And Obama and Hillary, sociopaths both, will not own up to Libya and Syria. For Obama, Libya was the biggest 'mistake' of his presidency. 'Mistake' that destroyed an entire nation. Like spilling milk. Oops.

    The best lesson from this is Empires are bad. Don't build empires. As Buchanan said in one of his book, Republic, Not an Empire.

    Granted, I don't think FDR's anti-Japan policy was necessarily imperialist even though US did end up becoming the dominant quasi-imperial power in the Pacific after WWII.
    The sheer confused nature of US policy in Asia in 1945 shows it had no clear plan or agenda.

    One could argue FDR was aiding the nationalist aspirations of China against the imperialist ambitions of Japan. And to the extent that he disapproved of British and French empires and their arrogant attitudes, there was probably some degree of idealism. But what a confused and contradictory policy he cooked up in Eastern Europe and Asia.

    “Difficult to feel sorry for Imperial Japan, the nation that gave the world the Rape of Nanking, wholesale slaughter in Manila, the medical “experiments ” of Unit 731, the Three Alls Policy ( “kill all, burn all, loot all”), etc…”

    That’s all very true, but how much of FDR’s policy had to do with moral concerns?

    I should hope not too much. I’m more of a realpolitik man myself.

    My citing of Japan’s sanguinary record circa 1937-45 is mostly meant to disabuse people of romantic notions regarding Imperial Japan.

    But what a confused and contradictory policy he cooked up in Eastern Europe and Asia.

    Yeah, but what country during the period 1937-45 actually was pursuing a completely rational foreign policy? Certainly not Germany (invading Poland in ’39, the USSR in ’41, unilaterally declaring war on the USA…), or the USSR (the Hitler-Stalin Pact didn’t exactly work out the way Stalin thought that it would), or Imperial Japan (“Suicide-by-America”)….

    • Replies: @Romanian
    At the risk of being attacked for who did what to whom, I can state that the little countries in Eastern Europe were pursuing a completely rational foreign policy while trying not to get trampled underfoot by the giants and their ideologies. A few examples - Hungary wanted to get back Transylvania and as much of the lost territories of yesteryear as possible, so it got itself a fascist government, made nice with Hitler and got Northern Transylvania. Italy, Hungary and Bulgaria both got bits of the Axis-conquered Kingdom of Yugoslavia. Seeing Germany as a probable winner and with the USSR annexing Bessarabia by ultimatum in 1940, our fascists and nationalists (and absolute monarchists in the beginning) made common cause to make nice with Hitler and retake Bessarabia, hoping to get enough brownie points and negotiable territory (like the very agriculturally rich region between the Dniester and the Bug which we called the Transnistria Governorate, with Odessa) to get back Northern Transylvania by German fiat or to secure German non-interference while we were taking it back. When the Legionary state fell and the Iron Guard got strung up, Marshal Antonescu (who should eventually be rehabilitated) continued the policy from his position as military autocrat until the Germans and their allies (including us) got routed by the Soviets and pushed back. Antonescu fell, a Commie backed domestic political alliance made nice with the Soviets and switched sides, hoping to still secure Northern Transylvania and some sort of bargain at the winner's table. We got that, but still lost Bessarabia and got the red yoke for a few decades. Not a bad showing, compared to other peoples, but no gold medal. At least we survived with 80% of the territory and minimal deportations (a lot of internal killings, but at least our graves aren't in Siberia, like those of the Bessarabians). It took until the 1960s for the population to recover, but the seeds were there for a later comeback. And it was all realpolitik.
  173. @Anon 2
    Actually, Stalin's record as far as Poland is concerned
    is mixed, and I'm not defending him in the least but
    Gen. Zhukov, directed by Stalin, in several months in 1945
    undid 1000 years of the German Drang nach Osten
    by pushing his army all the way to the ancient
    Limes Saxoniae along the Elbe-Saale rivers. The net result
    was that Germany lost 1/3 of its territory, and Poland went
    back to its 1000-year-old border along the Oder-Neisse rivers

    Yeah. But, on the other hand, Poland also lost territory in the east:

    The prewar eastern Polish territories of Kresy, which the Red Army had overrun during the Nazi-Soviet invasion of Poland in 1939 (excluding the Białystok region) were permanently annexed by the USSR, and most of their Polish inhabitants expelled. As a result of the Potsdam agreement to which Poland’s government-in-exile was not invited, Poland lost 179,000 km2 (45%) of prewar territories in the east, including over 12 million citizens of whom 4,3 million were ethnically the speakers of Polish. Today, these territories are part of sovereign Belarus, Ukraine, and Lithuania.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_changes_of_Poland_immediately_after_World_War_II

    • Replies: @Anon 2
    Yes, Poland lost some territories in
    the east that were previously part of
    the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth,
    esp. Lvov and Vilnius.

    Interestingly, there is a degree of rapprochement
    taking place between Poland and Belarus which
    is unexpected because Belarus is typically seen as
    as closely allied with Russia. There were high
    level exchanges between the two governments, and suddently
    there is a flow of workers from Belarus into Poland. They are
    able to get temporary (but renewable) work permits just like a
    million or so Ukrainians, and alleviate the labor shortage in Poland.
    This has all happened in the last 3-4 years, and is due to the fact
    that Russia, Belarus, and esp. Ukraine are experiencing a severe recession,
    partly because of the low price of oil.

    Poland and Ukraine have become fairly close in recent years, there are
    even Polish politicians serving in the Ukrainian govt, incl. the economist
    Balcerowicz, the architect of Poland's transformation in the '90s. Last year
    there was even a proposal from high-level Ukrainian journalists for Poland
    to simply take over western Ukraine all the way to Ternopil (which would
    include Lvov). 90% of western Ukrainians would rather be ruled by Poland
    than by the corrupt Kiev oligarchs. Putin obviously feels that Ukraine is
    too large, and he did something about it by annexing Crimea. He keeps referring
    to Lvov as a Polish city - he almost seems to be saying to Ukraine: Okay, you
    want to be independent, fine, but we'll take eastern Ukraine, Poland could
    take western Ukraine, and you'll be left with the middle third. By the way, there
    is little sentiment in Poland for this kind of "solution", and I'm sure most
    Ukrainians would not welcome it.

    I'm celebrating Christmas so I'm not going to respond to SPMoore8's
    provocation. Fortunately, the Polish and the Germans in Europe get along
    just fine unlike some people in this country (U.S.)

  174. Just tell the hairdresser that it’s a picture of Michael Imperioli.

  175. @syonredux
    Yeah. But, on the other hand, Poland also lost territory in the east:

    The prewar eastern Polish territories of Kresy, which the Red Army had overrun during the Nazi-Soviet invasion of Poland in 1939 (excluding the Białystok region) were permanently annexed by the USSR, and most of their Polish inhabitants expelled. As a result of the Potsdam agreement to which Poland's government-in-exile was not invited, Poland lost 179,000 km2 (45%) of prewar territories in the east, including over 12 million citizens of whom 4,3 million were ethnically the speakers of Polish. Today, these territories are part of sovereign Belarus, Ukraine, and Lithuania.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_changes_of_Poland_immediately_after_World_War_II

    Yes, Poland lost some territories in
    the east that were previously part of
    the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth,
    esp. Lvov and Vilnius.

    Interestingly, there is a degree of rapprochement
    taking place between Poland and Belarus which
    is unexpected because Belarus is typically seen as
    as closely allied with Russia. There were high
    level exchanges between the two governments, and suddently
    there is a flow of workers from Belarus into Poland. They are
    able to get temporary (but renewable) work permits just like a
    million or so Ukrainians, and alleviate the labor shortage in Poland.
    This has all happened in the last 3-4 years, and is due to the fact
    that Russia, Belarus, and esp. Ukraine are experiencing a severe recession,
    partly because of the low price of oil.

    Poland and Ukraine have become fairly close in recent years, there are
    even Polish politicians serving in the Ukrainian govt, incl. the economist
    Balcerowicz, the architect of Poland’s transformation in the ’90s. Last year
    there was even a proposal from high-level Ukrainian journalists for Poland
    to simply take over western Ukraine all the way to Ternopil (which would
    include Lvov). 90% of western Ukrainians would rather be ruled by Poland
    than by the corrupt Kiev oligarchs. Putin obviously feels that Ukraine is
    too large, and he did something about it by annexing Crimea. He keeps referring
    to Lvov as a Polish city – he almost seems to be saying to Ukraine: Okay, you
    want to be independent, fine, but we’ll take eastern Ukraine, Poland could
    take western Ukraine, and you’ll be left with the middle third. By the way, there
    is little sentiment in Poland for this kind of “solution”, and I’m sure most
    Ukrainians would not welcome it.

    I’m celebrating Christmas so I’m not going to respond to SPMoore8’s
    provocation. Fortunately, the Polish and the Germans in Europe get along
    just fine unlike some people in this country (U.S.)

  176. @Charles Erwin Wilson
    And what is your point?

    I thought we were encouraged to post curios that point to the political and cultural enmity between rural and urban America. This one is particularly hilarious, since it doubles as a sort of libel. Sort of like the “Hitler has one testicle and was a gay secret Jew” stories (which I have no idea whether they are true or not).

  177. @syonredux

    “Difficult to feel sorry for Imperial Japan, the nation that gave the world the Rape of Nanking, wholesale slaughter in Manila, the medical “experiments ” of Unit 731, the Three Alls Policy ( “kill all, burn all, loot all”), etc…”

    That’s all very true, but how much of FDR’s policy had to do with moral concerns?
     

    I should hope not too much. I'm more of a realpolitik man myself.

    My citing of Japan's sanguinary record circa 1937-45 is mostly meant to disabuse people of romantic notions regarding Imperial Japan.


    But what a confused and contradictory policy he cooked up in Eastern Europe and Asia.
     
    Yeah, but what country during the period 1937-45 actually was pursuing a completely rational foreign policy? Certainly not Germany (invading Poland in '39, the USSR in '41, unilaterally declaring war on the USA...), or the USSR (the Hitler-Stalin Pact didn't exactly work out the way Stalin thought that it would), or Imperial Japan ("Suicide-by-America")....

    At the risk of being attacked for who did what to whom, I can state that the little countries in Eastern Europe were pursuing a completely rational foreign policy while trying not to get trampled underfoot by the giants and their ideologies. A few examples – Hungary wanted to get back Transylvania and as much of the lost territories of yesteryear as possible, so it got itself a fascist government, made nice with Hitler and got Northern Transylvania. Italy, Hungary and Bulgaria both got bits of the Axis-conquered Kingdom of Yugoslavia. Seeing Germany as a probable winner and with the USSR annexing Bessarabia by ultimatum in 1940, our fascists and nationalists (and absolute monarchists in the beginning) made common cause to make nice with Hitler and retake Bessarabia, hoping to get enough brownie points and negotiable territory (like the very agriculturally rich region between the Dniester and the Bug which we called the Transnistria Governorate, with Odessa) to get back Northern Transylvania by German fiat or to secure German non-interference while we were taking it back. When the Legionary state fell and the Iron Guard got strung up, Marshal Antonescu (who should eventually be rehabilitated) continued the policy from his position as military autocrat until the Germans and their allies (including us) got routed by the Soviets and pushed back. Antonescu fell, a Commie backed domestic political alliance made nice with the Soviets and switched sides, hoping to still secure Northern Transylvania and some sort of bargain at the winner’s table. We got that, but still lost Bessarabia and got the red yoke for a few decades. Not a bad showing, compared to other peoples, but no gold medal. At least we survived with 80% of the territory and minimal deportations (a lot of internal killings, but at least our graves aren’t in Siberia, like those of the Bessarabians). It took until the 1960s for the population to recover, but the seeds were there for a later comeback. And it was all realpolitik.

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