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From the Washington Post:

More people were murdered last year than in 2014, and no one’s sure why
By Max Ehrenfreund and Denise Lu
Jan. 27, 2016

The number of homicides in the country’s 50 largest cities rose nearly 17 percent last year, the greatest increase in lethal violence in a quarter century.

A Wonkblog analysis of preliminary crime data found that about 770 more people were killed in major cities last year than the year before, the worst annual change since 1990.

The killings increased as some law enforcement officials and conservative commentators were warning that violent crime was on the rise amid a climate of hostility toward police. They said protests and intense scrutiny of officers who used lethal force had caused officers to become disengaged from their jobs, making streets more dangerous. Some have called it the “Ferguson effect,” after the St. Louis suburb in which Michael Brown Jr. was shot and killed by a police officer in 2014.

Alternatively, the anti-cop / anti-white agitation could be stimulating blacks to shoot each other out of what Keynes called “animal spirits.” Or maybe something is going on in the drug trade. Perhaps heroin is spreading from the white hinterlands to the black inner cities? (I’m not at all in touch with what’s going down on the streets. For that matter, has anybody said “What’s going down on the streets” since a 1970s cop show?)

Keep in mind that St. Louis, where the Ferguson Effect (whatever it’s cause) was very large in the first half of 2015, isn’t in these stats because it’s not one of the top 50 cities in the country.

A closer look at the figures, however, suggests no single explanation for the increases and reveals no clear pattern among those cities that experienced the most horrific violence.

Several cities that recorded the largest increases in homicides — Nashville and Washington, D.C., for instance — had no widely publicized, racially charged killings by police. Many other big cities recorded modest increases or even declines in the number of homicides, with no deviation from the pattern of recent years.

13 cities had fewer homicides in 2015 than in 2014

36 cities had more homicides in 2015 than in 2014

The worst increase in percent terms was in Cleveland (+91%, Tamir Rice). Baltimore (Freddie Gray) was up 59%. St. Louis (Michael Brown), which is too small to make the 50 biggest city list, increased from 73 in 2003 to 159 in 2014 to 188 in 2015.

A general pattern was that increases in homicides, especially in absolute number terms, tended to be larger in cities with large black populations than in cities with large Hispanic populations. For example, the Post provided this graphic of California and Texas:

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Also, Hispanic cities have smaller numbers of murders per capita than black cities, so their data can be noisier from year to year just from smaller sample sizes. In contrast, Baltimore had 346 homicides last year, up 59% from 204, which is a pretty big sample size. In contrast, Denver’s homicide rate grew 65%, even faster than Baltimore’s, but Denver still only had 51 homicides in 2015. So, it’s not clear how significant Denver’s change from 2014 to 2015 was.

So, something seems to have gotten black slum dwellers agitated enough to kill each other in considerable numbers. Perhaps it’s all the agitation by black protestors working hand in glove with the Administration, the media, and the NGOs? That’s happened before, back in the 1960s. But the 1960s were a long time ago, so a lot of hard-earned lessons have been forgotten.

 
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  1. For that matter, has anybody said “What’s going down on the streets” since a 1970s cop show?

    Arabists say it all the time.

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    WHITE KILLS BLACK!

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    how did you insert links into your comment?
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    • Replies: @Thomas Fuller
    Jihadi robots? Nothing in the Koran about lettuces, surely?

    @Steve, this is mostly O/T; money talks:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/12128151/Cecil-Rhodes-statue-to-remain-at-Oxford-University-after-alumni-threatens-to-withdraw-millions.html
    , @bomag
    When robot lettuce pickers start to become widespread in the US, congress will mandate the hiring of illegals. It is only fair.
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  4. Keep in mind that St. Louis… isn’t in these stats because it’s not one of the top 50 cities in the country.

    Quite a fall from when Judy rode the trolley, and the city ranked fourth in the land.

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    • Replies: @Abe

    Quite a fall from when Judy rode the trolley, and the city ranked fourth in the land.

     

    St. Louis was also the first US city to host a Summer Olympics- pretty big deal considering neither Chicago, San Francisco, nor a host of other fairly major cities have ever had that honor. Oh, well, guess we'll have to make due with the only double-digit crop of World Series titles outside the Bronx.
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  5. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Whites cannot speak the truth. And yellows(like Denis Lu) can’t either cuz they follow PC that is religion of the land.

    PC has filled whites with compulsive-obsessive disorder of having to cleanse themselves incessantly and forever because the blood of ‘white guilt’ can never be washed away.

    Whites are like Lady MacBeth who can never wash away the blood.

    https://youtu.be/w0LrdOa7uZQ?t=1h59m47s

    Ironically, by trying to cleanse the world of imaginary everlasting ‘white guilt’, PC is only making the world a more dangerous place with REAL dangers.

    ‘White guilt’ means whites better shut up about bad Jewish behavior.
    So, the economy is shaken to the core. Middle East is in flames. Tensions rise with Russia over whatever-Jews-cook-up-next-to-subvert-Putin.

    ‘White guilt’ means whites better shut up about bad black behavior.
    So, blacks get more out of control and kill each other and others.

    ‘White guilt’ means whites better shut up about non-white invaders.
    So, Europe turns crazier with all those migrants and US is becoming more divided with diversity.

    PC makes whites obsess about imaginary guilt while the real world is made all the worse by PC policies.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    ‘“White guilt’ means whites better shut up about bad Jewish behavior.”

    

Pro-white propaganda means that whites not deemed whites cannot make up their own minds regarding boorish conduct.

    “So, the economy is shaken to the core. Middle East is in flames. Tensions rise with Russia over whatever-Jews-cook-up-next-to-subvert-Putin.”

    Niwdog’s Law—As an online discussion continues with multiple posters, the likelihood of a person making assertions that the Jews are behind everything in the world that is “bad” exponentially grows.

    “‘White guilt’ means whites better shut up about bad black behavior. So, blacks get more out of control and kill each other and others.”

    Pro-white propaganda means that whites not deemed whites lack the capacity to generate reasons as to what is and what is not racially factual.

    “‘White guilt’ means whites better shut up about non-white invaders. So, Europe turns crazier with all those migrants and US is becoming more divided with diversity.”



    Pro-white propaganda means that whites not deemed whites have no liberty to associate with non-whites

    Pro-race is code for anti-humanity.
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  6. Glossy says: • Website

    If this is the new trend, gentrification will end soon. I just Googled for “White Flight 2.0″ – it’s been used already, though not in this context, at least not among the top hits.

    The amount of money that’s gone into gentrification in NYC is stunning. There are so many luxury buildings under construction now. For all of that to go to waste…

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    • Replies: @27 year old
    All those poor real estate developers... I feel horrible for them, really
    , @Alec Leamas
    That's been my prediction. Watch for some change in the style of Hipsterdom towards a more bucolic/small town aesthetic as preparatory to abandoning urban spaces. It might even be wrapped up in whole foods localism, hands in the dirt ethos, rejecting careerism in favor of beekeeping or vegetable growing, and so on.

    I grew up in inner city Philadelphia during the 70s-80s-90s urban crimewave (my parents' first house was in a neighborhood which some people would put inside of North Philadelphia). I saw first hand the abusive/pernicious use of Section 8 and white flight.

    Then, in the 2000s I watched in amazement as suburban raised kids (many of whose parents fled cities before their births to escape crime and urban decay) moved into cities including Philadelphia in a wave of gentrification. I recall thinking that they had the affect of white lab rabbits about to be released into the wild. There have, of course, been incidents of vibrancy which have occurred, usually on the leading edges of the Hipster wave. But thus far they've been somewhat muted in media coverage and wrapped in levels of euphemism and misdirection. But there gets to be a point where the crime hits home - whether someone gets a sudden dose of vibrancy in an area and at a time when you frequent, or someone you know personally is a victim, etc. after which your perception of these events changes from "I live in an exciting place where sometimes bad things happen" to "this place is not safe for me and my loved ones." This effect is probably delayed a bit by Hipsters and young whites postponing having children (exposing one's children to vibrancy requires a second order of obliviousness), but I predict white flight it is an inevitability if the new trend of urban crime continues.
    , @Crawfurdmuir
    Gentrification will not end. What we will see is a pattern like that seen in Europe and in some South American countries, where the rich inhabit the valuable properties downtown, while the underclass is banished from the central city to banlieues or favelas like those on the outskirts of Paris or Rio de Janeiro.

    This phenomenon is already visible in some American cities. Ferguson, for example, is a black banlieue of St. Louis.
    , @Ginger Bread Man

    If this is the new trend, gentrification will end soon. I just Googled for “White Flight 2.0″ – it’s been used already, though not in this context, at least not among the top hits.

    The amount of money that’s gone into gentrification in NYC is stunning. There are so many luxury buildings under construction now. For all of that to go to waste…
     
    This WaPo article may make you think the homicide spike will negatively affect gentrification, since the shiny infographic at the top of the page shows Minneapolis, Portland and Denver (America's fastest gentrifying cities) alongside Baltimore and Cleveland (America's Blackest cities) as being equally impacted by the murder wave. This is a good example of lying with statistics, both because comparing "percent change in homicide rate" makes cities with lower murder rates look worse and because the sample includes the convenient but not-so-pertinent set of 50 US cities with the largest populations, instead of the more relevant set of US cities with the highest murder rates in 2014.

    The second infographic plots changes in absolute murder rates, the statistic we care about, but it's too confusing to gain any insight. It's very cluttered, hard to compare cities, and arbitrarily highlights the cities with large police clashes rather than those with the largest murder spikes, reinforcing the idea that "nobody knows what's going."

    You are not totally off-base connecting gentrification with the murder spike. Gentrification is generally portrayed in the media as whites displacing Blacks, but in reality it's a two step process in which low-crime Hispanics displace Blacks under the radar, and whites in turn displace those Hispanics. Ron Unz alludes to this in his articles on Hispanic and Black crime. Blacks either get pushed into public housing in the suburbs or into majority Black cities, which have gotten significantly blacker over the past 25 years. In short, gentrification and the "Black Death" are two sides of the same coin of the Hispanization of America. This bodes well for those in cities like NYC or Portland, but terribly for those in St. Louis or Cleveland.
    , @NOTA
    Yep. Gentrification and walkable cities depend on low crime. Otherwise all the nice educated whites and Asians will move to someplace where the neighbors have to be well off to live there and the cops run the underclass off (as well as any poor-looking blacks and Hispanics)
    , @IA

    If this is the new trend, gentrification will end soon.
     
    I doubt it. If things get too edgy you move to whiter areas and let the next wave of brainwashed, gullible, ex-suburbanites fight in the trenches. If you bought property even 5 years ago you can get equity from a sale. Also, these gentrifiers view themselves as on the right side of history. They have an élan their parents or grandparents did not share. They are card-carrying Obama voters and feminists. They start restaurants and micro-brew bars with European menus and go to yoga classes. They build bike lanes and modern art galleries. All to baffle, intimidate and confuse negroes. They finesse rather than blatantly oppress like those bigot, hater, racist, bad whites.
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  7. The Hispanics are world champions at murder.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/brazil/12126593/Caracas-named-as-the-worlds-most-violent-city.html

    17/20 of the world’s most violent cities are in central/South America, 2 from US & 1 from South Africa.

    The top 20:
    1 Caracas, Venezuela
    2 San Pedro, Sula Honduras
    3 San Salvador, El Salvador
    4 Acapulco, Mexico
    5 Maturín, Venezuela
    6 Distrito Central, Honduras
    7 Valencia, Venezuela
    8 Palmira, Colombia
    9 Cape Town, South Africa
    10 Cali, Colombia
    11 Ciudad Guayana, Venezuela
    12 Fortaleza, Brazil
    13 Natal, Brazil
    14 Salvador, Brazil
    15 St Louis, USA
    16 João Pessoa, Brazil
    17 Culiacán, Mexico
    18 Maceió, Brazil
    19 Baltimore, USA
    20 Barquisimeto, Venezuela

    Well USA that’s your future if you don’t treat immigration as an emergency.

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    I tend to think that Data in large parts of Africa and Asia doesn't get tabulated.
    , @Jus' Sayin'...
    You may -- I don't say you are. -- be confusing ethnicity/language with race. After a quick glance, I'd be willing to bet even odds that the pooled genome in all of these cities has a much higher than fifty percent component from sub-Saharan Africa,
    , @NickG
    Can't believe Johannesburg is not on that list.

    SAP - South African Police - Afrikaaner cop earns his pay.
    , @Kevin O'Keeffe
    At least two of those Brazilian cities, Natal and Salvador, are largely African cities that happen to be located in Latin America.
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  8. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Too many violent people, not enough Darwin.

    Instead of being killed or eradicated some way or another, people with violent, criminal genes are free to breed with each other, and they end up having more than 2.0 kids, all of whom are supported by the state. Peaceful blacks who work a real job simply can’t afford to raise as many kids as a welfare recipient can. This means that over time, violent genes are steadily increasing throughout the black population like cancer, while the genes of less violent blacks are decreasing. Circumstance (and liberals) are breeding a race of super-violent sociopaths with the exactitude of horse- or dog-breeders trying to fix certain traits in a bloodline.

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    • Replies: @dearieme
    "Circumstance (and liberals) are breeding a race of super-violent sociopaths with the exactitude of horse- or dog-breeders trying to fix certain traits in a bloodline." Well put. I only hope you're wrong, but I won't be betting that way.
    , @Anon7
    Readers who missed this iSteve article (mostly a long quote of a La Griffe du Lion article) on the proof that our inner cities are creating populations of people with lower IQs should definitely go back and read it:

    IQ Equality: There's More in Baltimore Than Elsewhere

    If this thesis is true, we're in for nothing but trouble as our cities age. The question that no one asks about poor Flint, Mi is "Why couldn't they take care of their own city and its infrastructure?"

    , @boogerbently
    Sooooo,
    Cops kill one, and they kill 50 more?????
    Interesting.
    At that rate, it will only take........
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  9. It’s interesting to compare Chicago with Toronto, since both are Great Lakes cities with remarkably similar populations within city limits (Chicago being somewhere around 2.75 million people; Toronto somewhat above 2.8). Both were industrial powerhouses earlier in the 20th century, and both suffered from the decline of those trades before picking back up later on.

    Chicago’s murders shot up from 432 in 2014 to 488 in 2015. Toronto’s total dipped slightly from 57 in 2014 to 56 in 2015. At 2.0 murders per 100,000 people, Toronto’s rate was roughly half of NYC’s rate, roughly a ninth of Chicago’s rate, less than half the US national average of 4.5 (for 2014 – not 2015 – so that’s definitely going up) , was lower than the 2014 state average of Utah, and was the same as the state averages of Oregon and Idaho.

    In a sense, a city like Toronto is an example of what American cities might be like without certain unenviable historical burdens.

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    In a sense, a city like Toronto is an example of what American cities might be like without certain unenviable historical burdens.
     
    Toronto has its own problems with "diversity" and policing, e.g. the Sammy Yatim shooting.

    And if you think an absence of slavery historically in Canada means the slavery and institutional racism excuses don't have traction here you are mistaken. It appears the legacy of slavery in another time and place is the responsibility of contemporary white Canadians.
    , @Mike Zwick
    Your chances of getting your home remodeled on TV are a lot greater in Toronto. With HGTV and all..
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Rick, Toronto and Chicago are comparable only in population numbers, and it is black crime we are discussing here. A trip to Toronto will show you that the city is trending toward less than 50% white with a recent influx of Southeast Asians and other "visible minorities ( Canadian Census term, really). Yet Toronto's crime problem , especially violent crime, is the handiwork of their small black population, mostly from the West Indies. One of the Toronto newspapers called it the problem we don't want to discus. I have stated this before, other than in colonial times, there was no slavery in Canada. The vast majority of Canadian blacks are there of their own volition . Canada was the preferred terminus of slaves fleeing on the Underground Railroad. Canada had no Jim Crow laws or segregation. Toronto has no area that you would refer to as the ghetto. Toronto is the perfect petri dish to research black criminality.
    , @Bill Jones
    Thank God cotton doesn't grow that far north, Eh?
    , @anon
    And what comparatively few killings there are in Toronto are almost entirely committed by non-whites, Jamaicans in particular.
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  11. The quality of city limit statistics is inherently lower than the quality of metropolitan area statistics. City limits are arbitrary. It means almost nothing to write that Jacksonville is the most populous city in Florida. It means a lot to write that Jacksonville is the sixth most populous metropolitan area in Florida.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    But most of the black inner city neighborhoods with surging homicide rates are within the various city limits, so statistics focused on cities are useful for this issue.
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  12. WillBest says:
    @Grahams number G(64)


    The Hispanics are world champions at murder.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/brazil/12126593/Caracas-named-as-the-worlds-most-violent-city.html

    17/20 of the world's most violent cities are in central/South America, 2 from US & 1 from South Africa.

    The top 20:
    1 Caracas, Venezuela
    2 San Pedro, Sula Honduras
    3 San Salvador, El Salvador
    4 Acapulco, Mexico
    5 Maturín, Venezuela
    6 Distrito Central, Honduras
    7 Valencia, Venezuela
    8 Palmira, Colombia
    9 Cape Town, South Africa
    10 Cali, Colombia
    11 Ciudad Guayana, Venezuela
    12 Fortaleza, Brazil
    13 Natal, Brazil
    14 Salvador, Brazil
    15 St Louis, USA
    16 João Pessoa, Brazil
    17 Culiacán, Mexico
    18 Maceió, Brazil
    19 Baltimore, USA
    20 Barquisimeto, Venezuela

    Well USA that's your future if you don't treat immigration as an emergency.

    I tend to think that Data in large parts of Africa and Asia doesn’t get tabulated.

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    • Replies: @Big Bill
    A few years after the revolution South Africa stopped tabulating serious crime data. They apparently restarted, but their records are of doubtful accuracy.
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  13. @Richard Davis
    The quality of city limit statistics is inherently lower than the quality of metropolitan area statistics. City limits are arbitrary. It means almost nothing to write that Jacksonville is the most populous city in Florida. It means a lot to write that Jacksonville is the sixth most populous metropolitan area in Florida.

    But most of the black inner city neighborhoods with surging homicide rates are within the various city limits, so statistics focused on cities are useful for this issue.

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    Agreed.
    , @Alec Leamas
    They have been historically Steve but at least back East the gentrification has pushed some out into formerly lower class white boroughs and such.

    Also, relative to Philadelphia at least, neighboring and adjacent cities like Camden and Chester are really not distinct from the city itself regardless of political borders, and you could make the argument that nearby Wilmington, DE isn't really altogether distinct either. When the Hipster types gobble up more and more formerly low cost and Section 8 houses, the former resident population has to wind up somewhere. I'd imagine that a similar phenomenon is happening in, for example New York City and Newark, East Orange, Paterson etc. in New Jersey - technically outside of the formal borders of a city and the state within which it is situate, but the populations themselves don't respect the border and nor do the trends.
    , @Stan D Mute

    But most of the black inner city neighborhoods with surging homicide rates are within the various city limits, so statistics focused on cities are useful for this issue.
     
    Atlanta would be an exception to that rule. It depends on whether the city annexed it's way outward as population grew and whites fled. Houston and Jacksonville are great examples along with San Antonio. Atlanta however has some dense poor ghettoes outside the city limit as does Detroit. But for me really the salient point is that Africans behave the same virtually everywhere (including outside the USA) while Latinos seem better (by far) behaved in the USA (i.e. El Paso) versus their homelands (i.e. Mexico City, Caracas, San Salvador, etc.) and whites are pretty consistent with some outliers driven by local politics or religion (i.e. Islam).
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  14. “…Jacksonville is the sixth most populous metropolitan area in Florida…”

    Correction: Jacksonville is the fourth most populous metropolitan area in Florida.

    The St. Louis metropolitan area is the 22nd most populous in the USA.

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  15. @Steve Sailer
    But most of the black inner city neighborhoods with surging homicide rates are within the various city limits, so statistics focused on cities are useful for this issue.

    Agreed.

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  16. Abe says: • Website
    @Reg Cæsar

    Keep in mind that St. Louis... isn’t in these stats because it’s not one of the top 50 cities in the country.
     
    Quite a fall from when Judy rode the trolley, and the city ranked fourth in the land.

    Quite a fall from when Judy rode the trolley, and the city ranked fourth in the land.

    St. Louis was also the first US city to host a Summer Olympics- pretty big deal considering neither Chicago, San Francisco, nor a host of other fairly major cities have ever had that honor. Oh, well, guess we’ll have to make due with the only double-digit crop of World Series titles outside the Bronx.

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    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    St Louis had the World's Fair the same year as the Olympics. We won a lot of gold at the latter because so few had shown up. Avery's amateurs couldn't afford the trip.

    Oh, well, guess we’ll have to make due with the only double-digit crop of World Series titles outside the Bronx.
     
    Besides being the best baseball town in America, St Louis has traditionally been the best soccer city outside of Kearny, New Jersey, as well. Few people know about this history. Just as even the Seattleites I meet are unaware that their city was the first in the US to win a Stanley Cup.
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  17. My brother lives in Denver, and I visited him over Thanksgiving. He has friends in “nice neighborhoods” who have witnessed shootings across the street from them. However, he and his friends feel quite safe. He says the increase in murders is all gang-related and has to do with gentrification causing gangs to encroach on each others’ territories. Apparently, if you’re a regular Joe who’s not interested in Mary Jane, you can still walk the streets without worry.

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    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Bullets don't always end up exactly where a shooter intends. And it seems unlikely that many murderers really care all that much about avoiding collateral damage.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Chris, nice try but AndrewR is correct. A promising expat young man (last name Shomsky) from Cleveland, working in US government I think, was shot and killed in DC. He happened to be standing in the line of fire between two vibrants when they opened fire on each other. He was at a bus stop, near his gentrified residence. Tremont, the latest in-place in Cleveland, has been the scene of multiple violent car-jackings and armed robberies. In all cases the victims were white hipsters and the suspects black thugs. I can say that , right?
    , @Stan D Mute

    Denver
     
    Is an outlier insofar as white deliberate ignorance. The 16th St mall has had a number of black mob attacks yet the hipsters and yuppies ALL pretend it's always sunny in Denver. They have their huge bike rides on Thursday (?) nights with hundreds and hundreds of whites riding thru some sketchy areas oblivious to any black crime. The only acknowledgement any locals make is to avoid east colfax.
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  18. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Maybe cops are being handcuffed from doing their jobs in the current climate.

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  19. Grumpy says:

    I was listening to St. Louis’s KMOX radio last night, and what I heard was quite sad. The city is mourning the loss of its NFL team. A man on the air noted that St. Louis has also lost its airline (TWA), its airport hub, its most important corporate headquarters (Anheuser-Busch), and its self-esteem. It’s a “branch office” city now, he said.

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    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    I turned down a job offer in St. Louis in 1981 and have never regretted it. Just don't know what it is about the place--cities with great pasts do not always have great futures.
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  20. @Grumpy
    I was listening to St. Louis's KMOX radio last night, and what I heard was quite sad. The city is mourning the loss of its NFL team. A man on the air noted that St. Louis has also lost its airline (TWA), its airport hub, its most important corporate headquarters (Anheuser-Busch), and its self-esteem. It's a "branch office" city now, he said.

    I turned down a job offer in St. Louis in 1981 and have never regretted it. Just don’t know what it is about the place–cities with great pasts do not always have great futures.

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    • Replies: @yaqub the mad scientist
    When I first saw it in the 80's it had a dead feeling, not yet scary or clearly crime-infested, but a town on its way out.
    , @Stan D Mute

    cities with great pasts do not always have great futures.
     
    Amen. Case in point: Flint, MI. Birthplace of General Motors (and the UAW). In the 1980's and 1990's known for Michael Moore movies and being murder capital of USA. Today it's known for serving up lead poisoned municipal water. Quite a legacy..
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  21. @Grahams number G(64)


    The Hispanics are world champions at murder.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/brazil/12126593/Caracas-named-as-the-worlds-most-violent-city.html

    17/20 of the world's most violent cities are in central/South America, 2 from US & 1 from South Africa.

    The top 20:
    1 Caracas, Venezuela
    2 San Pedro, Sula Honduras
    3 San Salvador, El Salvador
    4 Acapulco, Mexico
    5 Maturín, Venezuela
    6 Distrito Central, Honduras
    7 Valencia, Venezuela
    8 Palmira, Colombia
    9 Cape Town, South Africa
    10 Cali, Colombia
    11 Ciudad Guayana, Venezuela
    12 Fortaleza, Brazil
    13 Natal, Brazil
    14 Salvador, Brazil
    15 St Louis, USA
    16 João Pessoa, Brazil
    17 Culiacán, Mexico
    18 Maceió, Brazil
    19 Baltimore, USA
    20 Barquisimeto, Venezuela

    Well USA that's your future if you don't treat immigration as an emergency.

    You may — I don’t say you are. — be confusing ethnicity/language with race. After a quick glance, I’d be willing to bet even odds that the pooled genome in all of these cities has a much higher than fifty percent component from sub-Saharan Africa,

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    After a quick glance, I’d be willing to bet even odds that the pooled genome in all of these cities has a much higher than fifty percent component from sub-Saharan Africa
     
    Whatever black admixture there is in El Salvador, it's well under 50%. Certainly Acapulco is also well under 50%.
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  22. @Glossy
    If this is the new trend, gentrification will end soon. I just Googled for "White Flight 2.0" - it's been used already, though not in this context, at least not among the top hits.

    The amount of money that's gone into gentrification in NYC is stunning. There are so many luxury buildings under construction now. For all of that to go to waste...

    All those poor real estate developers… I feel horrible for them, really

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    All those poor real estate developers… I feel horrible for them, really
     
    You should feel sympathy for the residents. It's their neighbourhood that goes to pot when gentrification is reversed. It may happen to you some day.
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  23. Anonymo1 says:

    Is there a convenient chart showing how much up and down variation there is from year to year, in the years before 2014?

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    Click through to the article
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  24. dearieme says:
    @Anon
    Too many violent people, not enough Darwin.

    Instead of being killed or eradicated some way or another, people with violent, criminal genes are free to breed with each other, and they end up having more than 2.0 kids, all of whom are supported by the state. Peaceful blacks who work a real job simply can't afford to raise as many kids as a welfare recipient can. This means that over time, violent genes are steadily increasing throughout the black population like cancer, while the genes of less violent blacks are decreasing. Circumstance (and liberals) are breeding a race of super-violent sociopaths with the exactitude of horse- or dog-breeders trying to fix certain traits in a bloodline.

    “Circumstance (and liberals) are breeding a race of super-violent sociopaths with the exactitude of horse- or dog-breeders trying to fix certain traits in a bloodline.” Well put. I only hope you’re wrong, but I won’t be betting that way.

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  25. @27 year old
    All those poor real estate developers... I feel horrible for them, really

    All those poor real estate developers… I feel horrible for them, really

    You should feel sympathy for the residents. It’s their neighbourhood that goes to pot when gentrification is reversed. It may happen to you some day.

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    So now I'm supposed to feel bad for hipsters, gays and other rich mostly childless liberals getting chased out of "their" neighborhoods by the black crime they scolded us was a racist delusion? What website am I on right now?
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  26. @Rick Johnsmeyer
    It's interesting to compare Chicago with Toronto, since both are Great Lakes cities with remarkably similar populations within city limits (Chicago being somewhere around 2.75 million people; Toronto somewhat above 2.8). Both were industrial powerhouses earlier in the 20th century, and both suffered from the decline of those trades before picking back up later on.

    Chicago's murders shot up from 432 in 2014 to 488 in 2015. Toronto's total dipped slightly from 57 in 2014 to 56 in 2015. At 2.0 murders per 100,000 people, Toronto's rate was roughly half of NYC's rate, roughly a ninth of Chicago's rate, less than half the US national average of 4.5 (for 2014 - not 2015 - so that's definitely going up) , was lower than the 2014 state average of Utah, and was the same as the state averages of Oregon and Idaho.

    In a sense, a city like Toronto is an example of what American cities might be like without certain unenviable historical burdens.

    In a sense, a city like Toronto is an example of what American cities might be like without certain unenviable historical burdens.

    Toronto has its own problems with “diversity” and policing, e.g. the Sammy Yatim shooting.

    And if you think an absence of slavery historically in Canada means the slavery and institutional racism excuses don’t have traction here you are mistaken. It appears the legacy of slavery in another time and place is the responsibility of contemporary white Canadians.

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    "unenviable historical burden" = an oblique way of saying 13% sub-saharan populace. Truly a gift that keeps on giving.

    Canada ain't got that.

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  27. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    For Austin, the decrease in murders can probably be attributed to the dismantling of the traditional black ghetto on the east side. They’re being spread out thin across the city and suburbs as their old neighborhood gentrifies; and they were never terribly numerous here to begin with. Google “black population Austin” to have a laugh at all the libtard handwringing surrounding the matter.

    Addtionally, as the population here grows feverishly, for every Mexican who rolls into town, at least another educated White does too, which works to offset the former’s pathologies to some degree.

    By the way Steve, anyone ever tell you that you bear an uncanny resemblance to Doug Stanhope?

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  28. Pat Casey says:

    I know this seems obvious to ISteve Nation–let blacks behave badly and they’ll behave worse– but I’ve said before it’s not so obvious. Consider this strictly: Do not underestimate what gang color demonstrations on cable news every night does to a gang member’s psyche. It is not too much to say that is what they live for, certainly that is what makes the next ones know what they want to be, when idols are on screen just flexing, like they were on Fox News for several weeks (months?). Can perception spike reality 17%? Yes it can. This is not what black anger looks like its what black pride looks like. That’s from someone who loves black people by the way. The media needs to learn to handle these circumstances more delicately, more Maturely.

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    Sheriff Joe Arpaio knows colors and the macho male Mexican mind. When the prisoners in one of his lockups started complaining about something, he hit them right in their macho 'nads and dyed all the men's prison underwear pink.
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  29. @Rick Johnsmeyer
    It's interesting to compare Chicago with Toronto, since both are Great Lakes cities with remarkably similar populations within city limits (Chicago being somewhere around 2.75 million people; Toronto somewhat above 2.8). Both were industrial powerhouses earlier in the 20th century, and both suffered from the decline of those trades before picking back up later on.

    Chicago's murders shot up from 432 in 2014 to 488 in 2015. Toronto's total dipped slightly from 57 in 2014 to 56 in 2015. At 2.0 murders per 100,000 people, Toronto's rate was roughly half of NYC's rate, roughly a ninth of Chicago's rate, less than half the US national average of 4.5 (for 2014 - not 2015 - so that's definitely going up) , was lower than the 2014 state average of Utah, and was the same as the state averages of Oregon and Idaho.

    In a sense, a city like Toronto is an example of what American cities might be like without certain unenviable historical burdens.

    Your chances of getting your home remodeled on TV are a lot greater in Toronto. With HGTV and all..

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  30. @Diversity Heretic
    I turned down a job offer in St. Louis in 1981 and have never regretted it. Just don't know what it is about the place--cities with great pasts do not always have great futures.

    When I first saw it in the 80′s it had a dead feeling, not yet scary or clearly crime-infested, but a town on its way out.

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  31. Anon7 says:
    @Anon
    Too many violent people, not enough Darwin.

    Instead of being killed or eradicated some way or another, people with violent, criminal genes are free to breed with each other, and they end up having more than 2.0 kids, all of whom are supported by the state. Peaceful blacks who work a real job simply can't afford to raise as many kids as a welfare recipient can. This means that over time, violent genes are steadily increasing throughout the black population like cancer, while the genes of less violent blacks are decreasing. Circumstance (and liberals) are breeding a race of super-violent sociopaths with the exactitude of horse- or dog-breeders trying to fix certain traits in a bloodline.

    Readers who missed this iSteve article (mostly a long quote of a La Griffe du Lion article) on the proof that our inner cities are creating populations of people with lower IQs should definitely go back and read it:

    IQ Equality: There’s More in Baltimore Than Elsewhere

    If this thesis is true, we’re in for nothing but trouble as our cities age. The question that no one asks about poor Flint, Mi is “Why couldn’t they take care of their own city and its infrastructure?”

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    The question that no one asks about poor Flint, Mi is “Why couldn’t they take care of their own city and its infrastructure?”
     
    Because the jobs left, the whites left, and the Talented Tenth ran off after the white folks.

    When industry leaves, the gifted and talented leave, but the human dregs stay behind. The population shrinks substantially, but the infrastructure is still full size.
    , @Ed
    Liberals, both black & white, don't believe blacks can do much on their own. So it's always someone else's fault even if blacks are in control. You go up the ladder until you reach the first white in authority, preferable a white conservative male.

    So the failure to evacuate citizens from the path of a powerful hurricane with 72 hour warning is not the fault of the black mayor, but the white governor & US President.

    Same thing with Flint.
    , @AndrewR
    Because the jobs left and, along with them, so did most of the folks with self-control.

    Given the forum, it's not hard to guess what you are implying here. While the massive influx of blacks during the "great migration" didn't help Flint in the long run, one would be remiss to neglect to note the low quality of many of the Southern whites who migrated to Flint during the middle of the last century, many of whose descendents still reside in the city and act largely indistinguishable from the ghetto black population. Trust me when I say that spending time in the east side of Flint will make even the most ardent pro-white advocate do some real soul searching.

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  32. JackOH says:

    FWIW-the city where I work had about 60 homicides in the mid-1990s, and, I think, about 20 last year. Credit has been given to more effective policing with federal support, a housecleaning of the corrupt county prosecutor’s office, shall-issue concealed carry laws, higher mortality rates for gangbanger killers, and one or two other items. Don’t know about uptick from 2014 to 2015, or Ferguson effect.

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  33. It would be interesting to know whether increased murder rates are perhaps a manifestation of in-house downsizing as an early indicator of an upcoming economic downturn already affecting demand for products of organized crime gangs such as drugs and prostitutes.

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    good point...the economic conditions of the under-class may have declined due to poor economic conditions...also the legalization of Marijuana in multiple states may have effected drug dealers across the nation...as many of my friends on the East coast who smoke dope now get their drugs from friends out west where it is legal or semi-legal (CA) , sometimes even via Fed-Ex. One pot-head I know gets his edible marijuana from CA delivered monthly to Philly from our friend who has a prescription. So it has become much easier to get weed without going to a dealer which must be reducing their income.
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  34. NickG says:
    @Grahams number G(64)


    The Hispanics are world champions at murder.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/brazil/12126593/Caracas-named-as-the-worlds-most-violent-city.html

    17/20 of the world's most violent cities are in central/South America, 2 from US & 1 from South Africa.

    The top 20:
    1 Caracas, Venezuela
    2 San Pedro, Sula Honduras
    3 San Salvador, El Salvador
    4 Acapulco, Mexico
    5 Maturín, Venezuela
    6 Distrito Central, Honduras
    7 Valencia, Venezuela
    8 Palmira, Colombia
    9 Cape Town, South Africa
    10 Cali, Colombia
    11 Ciudad Guayana, Venezuela
    12 Fortaleza, Brazil
    13 Natal, Brazil
    14 Salvador, Brazil
    15 St Louis, USA
    16 João Pessoa, Brazil
    17 Culiacán, Mexico
    18 Maceió, Brazil
    19 Baltimore, USA
    20 Barquisimeto, Venezuela

    Well USA that's your future if you don't treat immigration as an emergency.

    Can’t believe Johannesburg is not on that list.

    SAP – South African Police – Afrikaaner cop earns his pay.

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    What I can't understand is how Cape Town is on the list but Johannesburg and Durban are not.

    Obviously, much has changed since I lived in SA, but greater Johannesburg and Durban long had much higher black populations and violent crime rates than Cape Town.

    Has CT's black population (in places like Khayelitsha) grown so dramatically?

    Or has SAPS been under-reporting crime in Johannesburg/Durban, perhaps because of ANC control, while providing accurate stats for Cape Town, perhaps because of DA inflience?
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  35. jill says:

    The inner city drug crews are being decimated by rivals. Obama’s solution is to grant early release to thousands of convicted drug felons to refill their ranks.

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  36. Big Bill says:
    @Anon7
    Readers who missed this iSteve article (mostly a long quote of a La Griffe du Lion article) on the proof that our inner cities are creating populations of people with lower IQs should definitely go back and read it:

    IQ Equality: There's More in Baltimore Than Elsewhere

    If this thesis is true, we're in for nothing but trouble as our cities age. The question that no one asks about poor Flint, Mi is "Why couldn't they take care of their own city and its infrastructure?"

    The question that no one asks about poor Flint, Mi is “Why couldn’t they take care of their own city and its infrastructure?”

    Because the jobs left, the whites left, and the Talented Tenth ran off after the white folks.

    When industry leaves, the gifted and talented leave, but the human dregs stay behind. The population shrinks substantially, but the infrastructure is still full size.

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    Actually, Flint is about 50% black and 40% white, although media coverage that mostly features black faces might leave you with a different impression. The liberal narrative, you know.

    The full-size infrastructure is a huge burden and nobody wants to confront the two reasonable approaches, as noted below.

    I'd answer my own question by saying that Flint has too many problems that are too new and too complicated to be solved by its cognitively challenged population. Frankly, I think that the population of Flint should be moved somewhere else, and the entire city should be either bulldozed and covered over and abandoned for human use, or it should be declared a Superfund site and remediated at a cost of many $billions.

    In the meantime, we learn that the state government concluded that the water was unsafe at least ten months before the public was told, and even supplied bottle water for its own employees in Flint. SMH...

    , @NOTA
    Yep. It's like a thought experiment about open borders between Libertaria and SocialWelfaria. The smart and hard working and lucky move to Libertaria for the low taxes and really amazing whorehouses, the old and sick and broken move to SocialWelfaria for the generous benefits
    , @2Mintzin1
    Absolutely...this effect is very visible in my area (suburb of upstate NY rust belt city) it is like everyone with "get-up-and-go" got up and left.

    Ever see a beach after the tide has gone out, littered with trash? That's my 'hood.
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  37. Big Bill says:
    @WillBest
    I tend to think that Data in large parts of Africa and Asia doesn't get tabulated.

    A few years after the revolution South Africa stopped tabulating serious crime data. They apparently restarted, but their records are of doubtful accuracy.

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  38. Ed says:
    @Anon7
    Readers who missed this iSteve article (mostly a long quote of a La Griffe du Lion article) on the proof that our inner cities are creating populations of people with lower IQs should definitely go back and read it:

    IQ Equality: There's More in Baltimore Than Elsewhere

    If this thesis is true, we're in for nothing but trouble as our cities age. The question that no one asks about poor Flint, Mi is "Why couldn't they take care of their own city and its infrastructure?"

    Liberals, both black & white, don’t believe blacks can do much on their own. So it’s always someone else’s fault even if blacks are in control. You go up the ladder until you reach the first white in authority, preferable a white conservative male.

    So the failure to evacuate citizens from the path of a powerful hurricane with 72 hour warning is not the fault of the black mayor, but the white governor & US President.

    Same thing with Flint.

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    Liberals, both black & white, don’t believe blacks can do much on their own.
     
    And conservatives do?
    , @Anon7
    "Liberals, both black & white, don’t believe blacks can do much on their own."

    I agree with that.

    The problem in Flint is that the white, male governor of Michigan rightly concluded that the city of Flint couldn't solve its own problems (good!) but put moron friends/cronies in charge who apparently screwed up badly at several key points (bad!).

    But you're right. If Governor Snyder had done nothing, and this problem happened, the state of Michigan would still be on the hook for solving the problem. That's what's so dangerous about laws that allow the state to put in an emergency manager. If you appoint a manager and he fails, you're at fault. If the situation goes bad and you could have appointed a manager and you didn't, it's also your fault. Damned if you do...

    Also of note: The national media have not yet caught on to the fact that the same guy who apparently screwed up in Flint has been put in charge of a very similar set of problems in the Detroit public schools. Hopefully, Governor Snyder is reviewing that decision...
    , @David
    I agree with your comment I just wanted to say that the hurricane that swamped New Orleans was a nothing storm 72 hours before landfall. It wasn't even very threatening 24 hours before.

    If there had been 72 hours of warning, nothing would have been done to mitigate the disaster so it's not too important a point.
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  39. AndrewR says:
    @Chrisnonymous
    My brother lives in Denver, and I visited him over Thanksgiving. He has friends in "nice neighborhoods" who have witnessed shootings across the street from them. However, he and his friends feel quite safe. He says the increase in murders is all gang-related and has to do with gentrification causing gangs to encroach on each others' territories. Apparently, if you're a regular Joe who's not interested in Mary Jane, you can still walk the streets without worry.

    Bullets don’t always end up exactly where a shooter intends. And it seems unlikely that many murderers really care all that much about avoiding collateral damage.

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  40. Clyde says:

    ot ot ot ot:
    Female prison teacher, 44, arrested for ‘helping “Hannibal Lector” torturer and his fellow California escapees’ in chilling echo of 2015 ‘Shawshank’ jailbreak

    Nooshafarian Ravaghi, who taught English as a second language to inmates at Orange County Central Men’s Jail was arrested on Thursday
    Officials believe Ravaghi, 44, may have supplied maps to the men before they cut and climbed their way out of the jail last Friday
    Officials believe the men who escapedHossein Nayeri, 37, Bac Duong, 43, and Jonathan Tieu, 20 - may be living in a stolen van

    About ten people have been arrested so far in connection to the breakout
    The search has centered on a Vietnamese gang, which two of the inmates have ties to
    Officials are offering a combined $200,000 reward for the men’s capture

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3422079/Woman-taught-Southern-California-jail-aided-violent-inmates-escape-kind-relationship-one-men.html

    ***** She would seem to be Iranian same as escapee Hossein Nayeri who cut off a guy’s penis to get him to tell him where he kept his money. The victim owned a California medical marijuana dispensary.

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  41. Vinay says:

    “No one is sure why”

    Which is probably true. Now, if they’d display the same tentative nonjudgmental attitude towards other stuff….”Unarmed men shot by cops tend to be disproportionately black but no one is sure why”…”Traffic stop targets are disproportionately black but, and we wish to emphasize this, NO ONE IS SURE WHY”

    It’s fine to caricature your opponents but liberals can’t afford to treat minorities *or* cops as opponents. Their constituents care about reducing racism as well as effective policing. If you scream “cops are racist because STATISTICS!” one year, it’s difficult to denounce people as alarmist when they scream “crime is out of control because STATISTICS!”

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  42. AndrewR says:
    @Anon7
    Readers who missed this iSteve article (mostly a long quote of a La Griffe du Lion article) on the proof that our inner cities are creating populations of people with lower IQs should definitely go back and read it:

    IQ Equality: There's More in Baltimore Than Elsewhere

    If this thesis is true, we're in for nothing but trouble as our cities age. The question that no one asks about poor Flint, Mi is "Why couldn't they take care of their own city and its infrastructure?"

    Because the jobs left and, along with them, so did most of the folks with self-control.

    Given the forum, it’s not hard to guess what you are implying here. While the massive influx of blacks during the “great migration” didn’t help Flint in the long run, one would be remiss to neglect to note the low quality of many of the Southern whites who migrated to Flint during the middle of the last century, many of whose descendents still reside in the city and act largely indistinguishable from the ghetto black population. Trust me when I say that spending time in the east side of Flint will make even the most ardent pro-white advocate do some real soul searching.

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    "...low quality of many of the Southern whites who migrated to Flint during the middle of the last century, many of whose descendents still reside in the city and act largely indistinguishable from the ghetto black population."

    What do you mean by "low quality southern whites"? Be specific, please. Would you characterize yourself as not part of this group? In what way?
    , @JackOH
    " . . . [O]ne would be remiss to neglect to note the low quality of many of the Southern whites who migrated to Flint during the middle of the last century, many of whose descendents still reside in the city and act largely indistinguishable from the ghetto black population."

    Agree. I don't know Flint, but my own area's industrial work force (in NE Ohio) was a mash of poor Southern whites, Southern Blacks, and Euro-ethnics. A volatile mix of peoples that resulted in bloody clashes between the more nativist than racist KKK and the Mob in the early 20th century.

    I'm a fan of the topics brought up by Steve and the other writers on "UR". I'm skeptical, though, that the thinking here can meaningfully inform policy choices and legislation. Why? Because most white folks, I think, have successfully self-segregated from Blacks (at tremendous cost) one way or another. Having distanced themselves from the very real existential threat that Blackism poses to Western values, they're (whites, that is) back to differentiating themselves from one another on the bases of class, income, secondary school, religious affiliation, ZIP code of residence, and God knows what-all.
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  43. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    So far this year Chicago has had 47 homicides, 45 by gun, and 221 gunshot woundings (don’t know how many non-fatal stabbings or serious assaults with blunt instruments). This will increase a bit since January is not yet over and the weekend is starting. About a quarter of it is Hispanic the rest black with perhaps one white in the mix. There’s been a number of police shootings that’ve created the usual ruckus and provided fodder for the professional demonstrators. The police used to be able to terrorize the criminal class using their own discretion. Now with everything on camera that’s over with. With people like the Baltimore mayor and Holder calling the shots those inclined towards criminality feel free to do whatever they please and aren’t afraid of any consequences. One look at the saggy-pants crowd and it’s obvious they’re a separate breed who are unemployable, mentally and psychologically. Look at all the blacks in the Chicago public school system who are in Special Ed for being mentally below par. They’re all on SSI for disability and all of them will go on to have children, the women as single parents on welfare, the men as baby daddy types who go in and out of jail. It’s the next generation of the underclass.

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    A hundred years ago, people had the right idea on how to handle this. But because someone twenty years later and six thousand miles away did things that were not very nice, we can't even talk about it today.
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  44. Anon7 says:
    @Big Bill

    The question that no one asks about poor Flint, Mi is “Why couldn’t they take care of their own city and its infrastructure?”
     
    Because the jobs left, the whites left, and the Talented Tenth ran off after the white folks.

    When industry leaves, the gifted and talented leave, but the human dregs stay behind. The population shrinks substantially, but the infrastructure is still full size.

    Actually, Flint is about 50% black and 40% white, although media coverage that mostly features black faces might leave you with a different impression. The liberal narrative, you know.

    The full-size infrastructure is a huge burden and nobody wants to confront the two reasonable approaches, as noted below.

    I’d answer my own question by saying that Flint has too many problems that are too new and too complicated to be solved by its cognitively challenged population. Frankly, I think that the population of Flint should be moved somewhere else, and the entire city should be either bulldozed and covered over and abandoned for human use, or it should be declared a Superfund site and remediated at a cost of many $billions.

    In the meantime, we learn that the state government concluded that the water was unsafe at least ten months before the public was told, and even supplied bottle water for its own employees in Flint. SMH…

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    It's just an iteration of the "world to end tomorrow - women, minorities hardest hit" style of agitation journalism.
    , @Big Bill
    The problems are the same as they are in the other big cities, eg Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit, Newark, East St. Louis, etc. Dummies stick around. Smarties leave. Collapse follows. I agree with your suggestions., however. You cannot get Smarties to return if they are expected to pay for a massive, broken infrastructure AND all the welfare cases and deadbeats that hung around. There needs to be a way to "deaccession" big chunks of Flint, Detroit, etc. and let urban pioneers move back.

    Think of it this way. If the Puritans were obligated to give American aborigines welfare, free medical care, free schools, free fire protection, free policing, AND they were obligated to submit to aboriginal tribal courts and aboriginal chiefs, they NEVER would have settled in New England.

    So why should anyone expect new white settlers in the Detroit wilderness to pay for and submit to the aborigines of Detroit?
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  45. @Abe

    Quite a fall from when Judy rode the trolley, and the city ranked fourth in the land.

     

    St. Louis was also the first US city to host a Summer Olympics- pretty big deal considering neither Chicago, San Francisco, nor a host of other fairly major cities have ever had that honor. Oh, well, guess we'll have to make due with the only double-digit crop of World Series titles outside the Bronx.

    St Louis had the World’s Fair the same year as the Olympics. We won a lot of gold at the latter because so few had shown up. Avery’s amateurs couldn’t afford the trip.

    Oh, well, guess we’ll have to make due with the only double-digit crop of World Series titles outside the Bronx.

    Besides being the best baseball town in America, St Louis has traditionally been the best soccer city outside of Kearny, New Jersey, as well. Few people know about this history. Just as even the Seattleites I meet are unaware that their city was the first in the US to win a Stanley Cup.

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    Yes, and isn't Seattle also the only American city to honor Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov, alias Lenin, with a public statue?
    How quaint!
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  46. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Another Canadian

    In a sense, a city like Toronto is an example of what American cities might be like without certain unenviable historical burdens.
     
    Toronto has its own problems with "diversity" and policing, e.g. the Sammy Yatim shooting.

    And if you think an absence of slavery historically in Canada means the slavery and institutional racism excuses don't have traction here you are mistaken. It appears the legacy of slavery in another time and place is the responsibility of contemporary white Canadians.

    “unenviable historical burden” = an oblique way of saying 13% sub-saharan populace. Truly a gift that keeps on giving.

    Canada ain’t got that.

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    Canada ain’t got that.
     
    Yet.
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  47. @Ed
    Liberals, both black & white, don't believe blacks can do much on their own. So it's always someone else's fault even if blacks are in control. You go up the ladder until you reach the first white in authority, preferable a white conservative male.

    So the failure to evacuate citizens from the path of a powerful hurricane with 72 hour warning is not the fault of the black mayor, but the white governor & US President.

    Same thing with Flint.

    Liberals, both black & white, don’t believe blacks can do much on their own.

    And conservatives do?

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    "Liberals, both black & white, don’t believe blacks can do much on their own."

    And conservatives do?

    Conservatives know there is a talented end of the bell curve.

    And they don't tell fairy tales about how good things will be after they silence their critics and fund the next gov't program.

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  48. OT – how does this fit with the oft-repeated mantra that Israeli intelligence steals US intelligence? Could this be kept secret?

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/29/snowden-files-us-uk-spied-feeds-israeli-drones-jets

    A joint UK-US intelligence programme has been spying on electronic feeds – including video – from Israel’s military drones and jet fighters going back to 1998.

    In a potentially embarrassing disclosure for Israel, which prides itself on its technical capabilities, a new release from material held by the former NSA contractor Edward Snowden has revealed that UK and US intelligence officials have been regularly accessing Israeli cockpit cameras even in the midst of operations in Gaza and Lebanon.

    Codenamed Anarchist, the programme was revealed by the Intercept, a US website.

    The revelation – while played down by Israeli defence sources – has demonstrated again the level of surveillance aimed at Israel by countries usually regarded as friendly.

    The drone feeds were reportedly hacked using freely available software similar to that used to access subscriber-only TV channels, the report said.

    According to the Intercept, the surveillance operation is run from GCHQ in Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, and the actual surveillance undertaken from a UK base in Cyprus.

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    "The drone feeds were reportedly hacked using freely available software similar to that used to access subscriber-only TV channels, the report said."
     
    I'm also a little surprised at that, because 20 years back a friend used to watch Rupert Murdoch's UK pay TV, Sky, with some decryption software he downloaded. Then Sky changed the encryption and it was pretty much uncrackable. The encryption company was Israeli.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisco_Videoscape#History

    But I see the hackers have not been idle

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-26052012
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  49. Anon7 says:
    @Ed
    Liberals, both black & white, don't believe blacks can do much on their own. So it's always someone else's fault even if blacks are in control. You go up the ladder until you reach the first white in authority, preferable a white conservative male.

    So the failure to evacuate citizens from the path of a powerful hurricane with 72 hour warning is not the fault of the black mayor, but the white governor & US President.

    Same thing with Flint.

    “Liberals, both black & white, don’t believe blacks can do much on their own.”

    I agree with that.

    The problem in Flint is that the white, male governor of Michigan rightly concluded that the city of Flint couldn’t solve its own problems (good!) but put moron friends/cronies in charge who apparently screwed up badly at several key points (bad!).

    But you’re right. If Governor Snyder had done nothing, and this problem happened, the state of Michigan would still be on the hook for solving the problem. That’s what’s so dangerous about laws that allow the state to put in an emergency manager. If you appoint a manager and he fails, you’re at fault. If the situation goes bad and you could have appointed a manager and you didn’t, it’s also your fault. Damned if you do…

    Also of note: The national media have not yet caught on to the fact that the same guy who apparently screwed up in Flint has been put in charge of a very similar set of problems in the Detroit public schools. Hopefully, Governor Snyder is reviewing that decision…

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    Yes its the same guy Darnell Earley a black guy with a good appearance but not much of a record of accomplishment. He didn't know much about water systems and now we'll see how much he knows about education.

    Flint is of course a failing city. It is in serious financial trouble. Early was the fourth emergency manager appointed in six years. He inherited a financial problem and also a water problem. Flint had had a corruption problem in the fifties with a new water source. A powerful local politician had tried to tried to maneuver Flint to buy Lake Huron facilities on land he had been buying up. Flint was repelled by this attempt and just bought their water from Detroit.

    But of course Detroit had its own problems. Approximately half of Detroit's remaining population doesn't pay its water bill. They have been cutting off service to users in an attempt to become solvent once again. Detroit it seemed no longer valued the Flint business.

    Flint made a deal with a new Huron water company in Genesee county. Detroit water learned of this and raised Flint's rates. But Flint couldn't use the new Huron water source for two years. So Early was confronted with two years of high rates - rates he did not want to pay.

    The Emergency Manager overrides the local elected officials. The local officials approved of Earley's plan to use water from the Flint River but it was his decision alone. There are pictures on the Web of the council happily celebrating the decision while raising glasses of the poisonous Flint River water.

    The area of the water uptake is a former Buick facility. It is polluted. But that's not the problem. The residents like to get their pictures taken holding a bottle of rusty brown water. That's not the problem either. The rust and dirt in the water is generally harmless but the lead is deadly. lead is colorless and odorless in water.

    The problem is that Flint has lead feeder pipes from the water mains. Here in Oakland California there are no lead feeder pipes. They all were taken out years ago but in the East many big and small cities still have lead pipes in their water distribution systems. Many of these cities now have big expensive projects under weigh to dig them all up. In one city this is a half billion dollar project.

    Most of the time a city can tolerate lead pipes because an impervious lead oxide film forms on the inside of the pipes. This is why Rome could use lead pipes for centuries without bad effects. Their lead problem came from other areas - cooking vessels and wine.

    Rome had alkali water but the Flint River is acidic. It quickly dissolved the protective lead coating in the Flint water system feeder pipes. One authority writes that the permissible level of lead is 10 parts per billion. Another says eleven. The federal government use fifteen as a limit. There have been some measurements from the Flint water system of over three thousand ppb. Bad water.

    Darnell Earley was trying to save some money.

    There are no lead feeder pipes in the EBMUD (East Bay Municipal Utilities District) but there may be lead pipes in my house. I had a new water heater installed last year it probably was soldered with the new no-lead solder. Apparently even brass faucets are made with a small amount of lead. But all these minor lead sources are under attack. In the near future nothing will be allowed to contain lead that might come in contact with human water consumption. Domestic lead will go the way of asbestos.

    How is it that I know all this? I know this much and quite a bit more because I spent a couple hours this morning reading Wikipedia and some news articles. So I wonder why Earley who was made the head of a water department didn't know any of it?
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  50. @Anonymo1
    Is there a convenient chart showing how much up and down variation there is from year to year, in the years before 2014?

    Click through to the article

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  51. iSteveFan says:
    @anon
    "unenviable historical burden" = an oblique way of saying 13% sub-saharan populace. Truly a gift that keeps on giving.

    Canada ain't got that.

    Canada ain’t got that.

    Yet.

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    Canada ain't got that.

    Something the federal liberal party has been desperate to change since 1967.
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  52. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    What concerns me is that states like Colorado and Oregon may see their violent crime increase. Drugs are one of the few ways the untalented, dumb, and ruthless can make a living. Pot legalization may lure blacks to these places much the same way Henry Ford’s assembly line jobs drew blacks to Detroit in the 1920s. With a flood of violent blacks pouring into these states, both may end up going to utter hell.

    So it looks like legalization, which is essentially a white effect to rig the pot trade so they don’t have to buy from those awful, awful, declasse blacks anymore, may backfire.

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    "..legalization...may backfire."

    Well we can always criminalize it again.
    , @Jason Bayz
    Why? The price is pretty low in both those states, meaning that the demand is being met. There are more than enough White people in those states who have the skill set to legally produce and sell marijuana.
    , @NOTA
    Why would legalized pot bring a mass influx of blacks to Colorado?
    , @Jonathan Mason

    Drugs are one of the few ways the untalented, dumb, and ruthless can make a living.
     
    This is probably true, but it might be an aspect of life in the US that business and zoning are so heavily regulated that people cannot make a living in other manners, even if they are willing to do so.

    For example, the guy I know in the Dominican Republic who has a tiny fruit stand outside a department store where he will sell you a peeled orange for a few cents, or the people with stands outside the US Embassy in Santo Domingo who will take care of your cell phone for a couple of hours while you go inside to deal with your visa application, or the guy who sold me my shoes off a little store on the back of his motor cycle, or the people I saw in Haiti the week after the earthquake who had little gasoline-powered electrical generators on the street hooked up to charge a dozen cell phones at once for a few gourdes so that homeless people could call their family members overseas to ask for help.

    In the US it is extraordinarily difficult to set up a small business of one or two people--even if there is a need--without running into all kinds of licensing and regulatory problems. Small business properties also tend to be much larger than needed, with high rents, and it is difficult to rent a few square feet for a small business. Several years ago I was told that one of those barrows in an indoor shopping mall selling belts or cell phone covers had to pay a rent of $3000 per month. Now it is no doubt more.

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  53. @Glossy
    If this is the new trend, gentrification will end soon. I just Googled for "White Flight 2.0" - it's been used already, though not in this context, at least not among the top hits.

    The amount of money that's gone into gentrification in NYC is stunning. There are so many luxury buildings under construction now. For all of that to go to waste...

    That’s been my prediction. Watch for some change in the style of Hipsterdom towards a more bucolic/small town aesthetic as preparatory to abandoning urban spaces. It might even be wrapped up in whole foods localism, hands in the dirt ethos, rejecting careerism in favor of beekeeping or vegetable growing, and so on.

    I grew up in inner city Philadelphia during the 70s-80s-90s urban crimewave (my parents’ first house was in a neighborhood which some people would put inside of North Philadelphia). I saw first hand the abusive/pernicious use of Section 8 and white flight.

    Then, in the 2000s I watched in amazement as suburban raised kids (many of whose parents fled cities before their births to escape crime and urban decay) moved into cities including Philadelphia in a wave of gentrification. I recall thinking that they had the affect of white lab rabbits about to be released into the wild. There have, of course, been incidents of vibrancy which have occurred, usually on the leading edges of the Hipster wave. But thus far they’ve been somewhat muted in media coverage and wrapped in levels of euphemism and misdirection. But there gets to be a point where the crime hits home – whether someone gets a sudden dose of vibrancy in an area and at a time when you frequent, or someone you know personally is a victim, etc. after which your perception of these events changes from “I live in an exciting place where sometimes bad things happen” to “this place is not safe for me and my loved ones.” This effect is probably delayed a bit by Hipsters and young whites postponing having children (exposing one’s children to vibrancy requires a second order of obliviousness), but I predict white flight it is an inevitability if the new trend of urban crime continues.

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    Suburban raised gentrifier here, now a Philly resident.

    It is true that there's been a change in crime over the past year. I don't walk by myself after dark anymore. It's not bad enough that I would move, though, and I haven't heard of anyone else moving for that reason.

    I do know people who've moved to the suburbs for the schools. My kids have been very happy with their schools, but it is a tremendous pain in the neck to navigate the system for K-4, and then admission to the good middle and high schools require top standardized test scores. Plenty of people get sick of the hassle and go. But no one is leaving because of safety.
    , @Percy Gryce

    incidents of vibrancy
     
    High-larious.
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  54. Ragno says:

    Pretty hilarious, the way Steve scratches his head, all pretend-stumped over what could possibly be causing this spike in (mostly) black-on-black murder rates?

    I’ve joked for years – only now I add quote marks to joked – that “we live in a world where racism is far far worse than murder”, but the fact is that blacks have lived in this world, 24/7, for far longer (except that the ‘racism’ bit is a fairly recent addition, not that it’s come close to even denting the body count).

    To blacks, murder is just a thing that happens; as sudden as a summer storm, and as unknowable as white-boy science. It is their textbook definition of ‘conflict resolution’, and according to the script pages we’re all supposed to follow verbatim, it’s up to us to adjust our (racist) reality-set to theirs. But be aware that we are dealing with scriptwriters for whom a finale of savages dancing around dead missionaries in cannibal cookpots represents poetic justice, so adjust your expectations accordingly.

    The BLM ‘movement’ inhibits law enforcement; this in turn inhibits civil order, and – voila! – the murder-needle sharply ascends into the red area of the inner-city graph paper. The only result more predictable are ever-shriller op-eds from hand-wringing SJWs running out of scapegoats, but something tells me they’ll be falling sharply out of favor as we draw closer and closer to 2017. (I just hope that something isn’t “wishful thinking”.)

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    but the fact is that blacks have lived in this world, 24/7, for far longer...To blacks, murder is just a thing that happens...It is their textbook definition of ‘conflict resolution’, and according to the script pages we’re all supposed to follow verbatim, it’s up to us to adjust our (racist) reality-set to theirs.

    Indeed.

    But they are moving out of their cities into ours to escape this. They are moving out of their countries into ours to escape this. They like to brag about how tough they are; about how they keep it Real; about how "snitches get stitches"; yet here they come, wanting something they can't create or maintain themselves and expecting others to adapt.

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  55. @Anon7
    Actually, Flint is about 50% black and 40% white, although media coverage that mostly features black faces might leave you with a different impression. The liberal narrative, you know.

    The full-size infrastructure is a huge burden and nobody wants to confront the two reasonable approaches, as noted below.

    I'd answer my own question by saying that Flint has too many problems that are too new and too complicated to be solved by its cognitively challenged population. Frankly, I think that the population of Flint should be moved somewhere else, and the entire city should be either bulldozed and covered over and abandoned for human use, or it should be declared a Superfund site and remediated at a cost of many $billions.

    In the meantime, we learn that the state government concluded that the water was unsafe at least ten months before the public was told, and even supplied bottle water for its own employees in Flint. SMH...

    It’s just an iteration of the “world to end tomorrow – women, minorities hardest hit” style of agitation journalism.

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  56. @Glossy
    If this is the new trend, gentrification will end soon. I just Googled for "White Flight 2.0" - it's been used already, though not in this context, at least not among the top hits.

    The amount of money that's gone into gentrification in NYC is stunning. There are so many luxury buildings under construction now. For all of that to go to waste...

    Gentrification will not end. What we will see is a pattern like that seen in Europe and in some South American countries, where the rich inhabit the valuable properties downtown, while the underclass is banished from the central city to banlieues or favelas like those on the outskirts of Paris or Rio de Janeiro.

    This phenomenon is already visible in some American cities. Ferguson, for example, is a black banlieue of St. Louis.

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  57. We could rightly call it “America’s Maidan Uprising” No doubt inspired by the same folks, for the same reason.

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  58. @a reader
    WHITE KILLS BLACK!

    how did you insert links into your comment?

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    With html?
    , @a reader
    I read this tutorial.

    I press the Preview Comment key below the Body of Comment frame to ascertain it's OK.
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  59. @Rick Johnsmeyer
    It's interesting to compare Chicago with Toronto, since both are Great Lakes cities with remarkably similar populations within city limits (Chicago being somewhere around 2.75 million people; Toronto somewhat above 2.8). Both were industrial powerhouses earlier in the 20th century, and both suffered from the decline of those trades before picking back up later on.

    Chicago's murders shot up from 432 in 2014 to 488 in 2015. Toronto's total dipped slightly from 57 in 2014 to 56 in 2015. At 2.0 murders per 100,000 people, Toronto's rate was roughly half of NYC's rate, roughly a ninth of Chicago's rate, less than half the US national average of 4.5 (for 2014 - not 2015 - so that's definitely going up) , was lower than the 2014 state average of Utah, and was the same as the state averages of Oregon and Idaho.

    In a sense, a city like Toronto is an example of what American cities might be like without certain unenviable historical burdens.

    Rick, Toronto and Chicago are comparable only in population numbers, and it is black crime we are discussing here. A trip to Toronto will show you that the city is trending toward less than 50% white with a recent influx of Southeast Asians and other “visible minorities ( Canadian Census term, really). Yet Toronto’s crime problem , especially violent crime, is the handiwork of their small black population, mostly from the West Indies. One of the Toronto newspapers called it the problem we don’t want to discus. I have stated this before, other than in colonial times, there was no slavery in Canada. The vast majority of Canadian blacks are there of their own volition . Canada was the preferred terminus of slaves fleeing on the Underground Railroad. Canada had no Jim Crow laws or segregation. Toronto has no area that you would refer to as the ghetto. Toronto is the perfect petri dish to research black criminality.

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  60. @Chrisnonymous
    My brother lives in Denver, and I visited him over Thanksgiving. He has friends in "nice neighborhoods" who have witnessed shootings across the street from them. However, he and his friends feel quite safe. He says the increase in murders is all gang-related and has to do with gentrification causing gangs to encroach on each others' territories. Apparently, if you're a regular Joe who's not interested in Mary Jane, you can still walk the streets without worry.

    Chris, nice try but AndrewR is correct. A promising expat young man (last name Shomsky) from Cleveland, working in US government I think, was shot and killed in DC. He happened to be standing in the line of fire between two vibrants when they opened fire on each other. He was at a bus stop, near his gentrified residence. Tremont, the latest in-place in Cleveland, has been the scene of multiple violent car-jackings and armed robberies. In all cases the victims were white hipsters and the suspects black thugs. I can say that , right?

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  61. @Another Canadian

    All those poor real estate developers… I feel horrible for them, really
     
    You should feel sympathy for the residents. It's their neighbourhood that goes to pot when gentrification is reversed. It may happen to you some day.

    So now I’m supposed to feel bad for hipsters, gays and other rich mostly childless liberals getting chased out of “their” neighborhoods by the black crime they scolded us was a racist delusion? What website am I on right now?

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  62. The term “Ferguson Effect” fits the MSM narrative that cops are the problem, even when they chose not to engage the bad guys. Truth is, police have a poor rate of closure when it comes to solving most murders. I don’t think it is reasonable to expect the police to prevent crimes, in this case shootings and murders, when the powers that be don’t want them to “police” the most likely criminals.

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  63. PapayaSF says:

    Several cities that recorded the largest increases in homicides — Nashville and Washington, D.C., for instance — had no widely publicized, racially charged killings by police.

    Gosh, it’s almost as if there were forms of communication that allowed people to get news of events outside of the city they live in!

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  64. @Anonymous Nephew
    OT - how does this fit with the oft-repeated mantra that Israeli intelligence steals US intelligence? Could this be kept secret?

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/29/snowden-files-us-uk-spied-feeds-israeli-drones-jets

    A joint UK-US intelligence programme has been spying on electronic feeds – including video – from Israel’s military drones and jet fighters going back to 1998.

    In a potentially embarrassing disclosure for Israel, which prides itself on its technical capabilities, a new release from material held by the former NSA contractor Edward Snowden has revealed that UK and US intelligence officials have been regularly accessing Israeli cockpit cameras even in the midst of operations in Gaza and Lebanon.

    Codenamed Anarchist, the programme was revealed by the Intercept, a US website.

    The revelation – while played down by Israeli defence sources – has demonstrated again the level of surveillance aimed at Israel by countries usually regarded as friendly.

    The drone feeds were reportedly hacked using freely available software similar to that used to access subscriber-only TV channels, the report said.

    According to the Intercept, the surveillance operation is run from GCHQ in Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, and the actual surveillance undertaken from a UK base in Cyprus.
     

    “The drone feeds were reportedly hacked using freely available software similar to that used to access subscriber-only TV channels, the report said.”

    I’m also a little surprised at that, because 20 years back a friend used to watch Rupert Murdoch’s UK pay TV, Sky, with some decryption software he downloaded. Then Sky changed the encryption and it was pretty much uncrackable. The encryption company was Israeli.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisco_Videoscape#History

    But I see the hackers have not been idle

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-26052012

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  65. Rob McX says:

    For that matter, has anybody said “What’s going down on the streets” since a 1970s cop show?)

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  66. Big Bill says:

    more people were murdered last year than in 2014, and no one is sure why

    Umm… Pretty obvious to me. More people needed killing. The bruthas doing the killing would know better than me, though. Why not ask them?

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  67. @NickG
    Can't believe Johannesburg is not on that list.

    SAP - South African Police - Afrikaaner cop earns his pay.

    What I can’t understand is how Cape Town is on the list but Johannesburg and Durban are not.

    Obviously, much has changed since I lived in SA, but greater Johannesburg and Durban long had much higher black populations and violent crime rates than Cape Town.

    Has CT’s black population (in places like Khayelitsha) grown so dramatically?

    Or has SAPS been under-reporting crime in Johannesburg/Durban, perhaps because of ANC control, while providing accurate stats for Cape Town, perhaps because of DA inflience?

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    You simply cannot trust the stats that come out of South Africa regarding crime, I say this as somebody living in South Africa. Regarding that list of the cities of the highest crime rates, if there was a truly correct way of gathering from all the cities, then you would find that almost all the African cities would at the top of the list. The reason you do not see them is that they are not capable of collecting the correct stats.
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  68. Vendetta says:

    iSteve Man of the Century award right here!

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  69. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    You guys need an education in white privilege and white supremacy. You people obviously don’t understand the concept

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    You must be new here.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    You guys need an education in white privilege and white supremacy. You people obviously don’t understand the concept
     
    Portland's "growth boundary", Seattle's minimum wage, and San Francisco's rents all reek of white privilege.

    A white judge imposing "same-sex marriage" on black South Africa sounds pretty white supremacist to me.

    And how does Bernie Sanders segregate his rallies so well?
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  70. More encouragement from the Cathedral: The Birth Of A Nation (2016), premiered at Sundance.

    Compare and contrast with The Birth Of A Nation (1915), a film that we are no longer supposed to watch.

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  71. Corvinus says:
    @Anon
    Whites cannot speak the truth. And yellows(like Denis Lu) can't either cuz they follow PC that is religion of the land.

    PC has filled whites with compulsive-obsessive disorder of having to cleanse themselves incessantly and forever because the blood of 'white guilt' can never be washed away.

    Whites are like Lady MacBeth who can never wash away the blood.

    https://youtu.be/w0LrdOa7uZQ?t=1h59m47s

    Ironically, by trying to cleanse the world of imaginary everlasting 'white guilt', PC is only making the world a more dangerous place with REAL dangers.

    'White guilt' means whites better shut up about bad Jewish behavior.
    So, the economy is shaken to the core. Middle East is in flames. Tensions rise with Russia over whatever-Jews-cook-up-next-to-subvert-Putin.

    'White guilt' means whites better shut up about bad black behavior.
    So, blacks get more out of control and kill each other and others.

    'White guilt' means whites better shut up about non-white invaders.
    So, Europe turns crazier with all those migrants and US is becoming more divided with diversity.

    PC makes whites obsess about imaginary guilt while the real world is made all the worse by PC policies.

    ‘“White guilt’ means whites better shut up about bad Jewish behavior.”

    

Pro-white propaganda means that whites not deemed whites cannot make up their own minds regarding boorish conduct.

    “So, the economy is shaken to the core. Middle East is in flames. Tensions rise with Russia over whatever-Jews-cook-up-next-to-subvert-Putin.”

    Niwdog’s Law—As an online discussion continues with multiple posters, the likelihood of a person making assertions that the Jews are behind everything in the world that is “bad” exponentially grows.

    “‘White guilt’ means whites better shut up about bad black behavior. So, blacks get more out of control and kill each other and others.”

    Pro-white propaganda means that whites not deemed whites lack the capacity to generate reasons as to what is and what is not racially factual.

    “‘White guilt’ means whites better shut up about non-white invaders. So, Europe turns crazier with all those migrants and US is becoming more divided with diversity.”



    Pro-white propaganda means that whites not deemed whites have no liberty to associate with non-whites

    Pro-race is code for anti-humanity.

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    I think Niwdog's law only applies on Unz. ;)

    You can take a middle path. There have been a disproportionate number of Jews in the movements to diminish white exclusivity and power, but it doesn't mean Jews sit around thinking about how they're going to exterminate white people...there's a 70% intermarriage rate after all, and they're not all Chinese girls. From what I've seen they seem to swallow this social justice crap, and then turn around and send their kids to private school like any other white liberal. I'd actually say they assimilated pretty well...they just assimilated into the *left* half of the American elite, and gave it a huge shot in the arm in its eternal war against the South.

    Similarly, while I think fascism is a dumb idea, particularly in the USA where pretty much some form of democracy is all we've ever had, if there are going to be black and Latino identity politics and the number of white people is decreasing, you'd expect white people to form identity politics sooner or later. Given what's happened in Zimbabwe and South Africa, I wouldn't want to be in a minority either.

    As for the Putin thing, I'm not sure how much is some weird Zionist thing (how does Ukraine's secession help Israel?) and how much is greedy Americans trying to pull every country into their sphere of influence. I mean, it's an empire. They like to grow. Putin's into the same thing, only his position's not as strong right now--we've got troops at his border. It's as if Mexico were a Russian ally.

    Not to say neocons, etc., don't do bad things (for America) on behalf of Israel--look at Iraq.
    , @Former Darfur
    Corvinus, you are to Bob Whitaker what El Kabong is to Pete Townshend.
    , @Former Darfur
    Corvinus, you are to Bob Whitaker what El Kabong is to Pete Townshend.
    , @bomag
    Pro-white propaganda means ...

    "Propaganda" indicates that it contains a degree of falseness, but one oversells in hopes that a few things will move in his direction.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    As an online discussion continues with multiple posters, the likelihood of a person making assertions that the Jews are behind everything in the world that is “bad” exponentially grows.
     
    As an online discussion continues with multiple posters, the likelihood of everything grows. Everything but coherence, that is.
    , @bomag
    Pro-race is code for anti-humanity

    Everyone except White people freely and shamelessly advocate for their own race.

    So, for the sake of Humanity, Whites are obligated to let themselves be extinguished?

    What, pray tell, is the reward the Galactic Overlords are going to bestow for that sacrifice?
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  72. Corvinus says:
    @AndrewR
    Because the jobs left and, along with them, so did most of the folks with self-control.

    Given the forum, it's not hard to guess what you are implying here. While the massive influx of blacks during the "great migration" didn't help Flint in the long run, one would be remiss to neglect to note the low quality of many of the Southern whites who migrated to Flint during the middle of the last century, many of whose descendents still reside in the city and act largely indistinguishable from the ghetto black population. Trust me when I say that spending time in the east side of Flint will make even the most ardent pro-white advocate do some real soul searching.

    “…low quality of many of the Southern whites who migrated to Flint during the middle of the last century, many of whose descendents still reside in the city and act largely indistinguishable from the ghetto black population.”

    What do you mean by “low quality southern whites”? Be specific, please. Would you characterize yourself as not part of this group? In what way?

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    Lazy, dumb, violent, substance abusing, r-selected, etc. Wiggers.

    Not that hard to figure out what I meant.

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  73. fnn says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...
    You may -- I don't say you are. -- be confusing ethnicity/language with race. After a quick glance, I'd be willing to bet even odds that the pooled genome in all of these cities has a much higher than fifty percent component from sub-Saharan Africa,

    After a quick glance, I’d be willing to bet even odds that the pooled genome in all of these cities has a much higher than fifty percent component from sub-Saharan Africa

    Whatever black admixture there is in El Salvador, it’s well under 50%. Certainly Acapulco is also well under 50%.

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  74. @Glossy
    If this is the new trend, gentrification will end soon. I just Googled for "White Flight 2.0" - it's been used already, though not in this context, at least not among the top hits.

    The amount of money that's gone into gentrification in NYC is stunning. There are so many luxury buildings under construction now. For all of that to go to waste...

    If this is the new trend, gentrification will end soon. I just Googled for “White Flight 2.0″ – it’s been used already, though not in this context, at least not among the top hits.

    The amount of money that’s gone into gentrification in NYC is stunning. There are so many luxury buildings under construction now. For all of that to go to waste…

    This WaPo article may make you think the homicide spike will negatively affect gentrification, since the shiny infographic at the top of the page shows Minneapolis, Portland and Denver (America’s fastest gentrifying cities) alongside Baltimore and Cleveland (America’s Blackest cities) as being equally impacted by the murder wave. This is a good example of lying with statistics, both because comparing “percent change in homicide rate” makes cities with lower murder rates look worse and because the sample includes the convenient but not-so-pertinent set of 50 US cities with the largest populations, instead of the more relevant set of US cities with the highest murder rates in 2014.

    The second infographic plots changes in absolute murder rates, the statistic we care about, but it’s too confusing to gain any insight. It’s very cluttered, hard to compare cities, and arbitrarily highlights the cities with large police clashes rather than those with the largest murder spikes, reinforcing the idea that “nobody knows what’s going.”

    You are not totally off-base connecting gentrification with the murder spike. Gentrification is generally portrayed in the media as whites displacing Blacks, but in reality it’s a two step process in which low-crime Hispanics displace Blacks under the radar, and whites in turn displace those Hispanics. Ron Unz alludes to this in his articles on Hispanic and Black crime. Blacks either get pushed into public housing in the suburbs or into majority Black cities, which have gotten significantly blacker over the past 25 years. In short, gentrification and the “Black Death” are two sides of the same coin of the Hispanization of America. This bodes well for those in cities like NYC or Portland, but terribly for those in St. Louis or Cleveland.

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  75. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Occam’s Saturday Night Special would suggest BLACK LIVES KILL.

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  76. David says:
    @Ed
    Liberals, both black & white, don't believe blacks can do much on their own. So it's always someone else's fault even if blacks are in control. You go up the ladder until you reach the first white in authority, preferable a white conservative male.

    So the failure to evacuate citizens from the path of a powerful hurricane with 72 hour warning is not the fault of the black mayor, but the white governor & US President.

    Same thing with Flint.

    I agree with your comment I just wanted to say that the hurricane that swamped New Orleans was a nothing storm 72 hours before landfall. It wasn’t even very threatening 24 hours before.

    If there had been 72 hours of warning, nothing would have been done to mitigate the disaster so it’s not too important a point.

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    Hurricane Katrina was a picture perfect Category 5 hurricane the day before landfall with winds of 175 mph. It was due south of New Orleans. Only a small 'wobble' to the east prevented this storm from coming in right on top of New Orleans. Everyone who checked the National Hurricane Center updates knew this storm was off the charts dangerous and New Orleans was in great peril.

    I recall watching as Mayor Nagin began sending people to the Louisiana Super Dome and wondered what in the hell he was thinking. As it happened the roof began to fail on that structure despite the most intense winds being miles to the east in Gulfport. Had Katrina come over New Orleans its 29 foot storm surge and Category three winds would have obliterated that city and left thousands dead in the 'emergency shelters'.
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  77. @Anon
    Too many violent people, not enough Darwin.

    Instead of being killed or eradicated some way or another, people with violent, criminal genes are free to breed with each other, and they end up having more than 2.0 kids, all of whom are supported by the state. Peaceful blacks who work a real job simply can't afford to raise as many kids as a welfare recipient can. This means that over time, violent genes are steadily increasing throughout the black population like cancer, while the genes of less violent blacks are decreasing. Circumstance (and liberals) are breeding a race of super-violent sociopaths with the exactitude of horse- or dog-breeders trying to fix certain traits in a bloodline.

    Sooooo,
    Cops kill one, and they kill 50 more?????
    Interesting.
    At that rate, it will only take……..

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  78. Let”s stop with this “Fergeson Effect”already; what is it “magic dirt?” Shouldn’t it be the “Obama-Holder effect? Lets give them some legacy!

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    If the authorities could generally affect the crime rate by public statements, the world would look very different. The only two interventions that plausibly look like they might have affected the crime rate in the U.S. recently are doubling the people we lock up, and massively decreasing childhood lead exposure by banning leaded gasoline and lead paint.
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  79. 5371 says:

    OT – the Swedish police have introduced a special code – 291 – just for crimes committed by “refugees”.

    https://russian.rt.com/article/145091

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  80. My local city, Sacramento, had a nice brisk increase of 54%. Here’s a little news clip explaining that part of the problem is, of course, white people. White cops cause an increase in homicides. Honestly, do these people have any shame at all?

    http://www.kcra.com/news/the-part-of-sacramento-with-the-most-murders-is/37265630

    Also robbery and assault are on the increase. In Citrus Heights I see an awful lot of transients roaming around and the cops I know tell me they steal constantly. Lovely, just lovely.

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    Despite broken windows ambience & regalia of slumnification Sacramento like most of the Central Valley cities is not especially dangerous, at least not by comparison to the coastal cities which are consistently worse for violent crime. Now even theoretically yuppie-friendly Santa Cruz has become a beachhead for gangs. The closer to the ocean, the more wacked-out the civic politicians tend to be (I am referring to medium & big cities, not obvious contradicting cases e.g. Carmel).

    The downward mobility and incipient cruddyness of the Valley is another matter. It's starting to look like the worst places of the Inland Empire. I don't necessarily mean in a Victor Davis Hanson "Mexifornia" sense, but you can observe a sudden prevalence -- last 10 years? -- of social drop-outs, bindlestiffs on tricycles, and wizened urine-soaked lunatics camped out at the primary bus stops, with their dogs, vagabonding it like some Woody Guthrie parody. Could be all that white heroin & meth abuse they've been discovering at the think tanks
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  81. @Rick Johnsmeyer
    It's interesting to compare Chicago with Toronto, since both are Great Lakes cities with remarkably similar populations within city limits (Chicago being somewhere around 2.75 million people; Toronto somewhat above 2.8). Both were industrial powerhouses earlier in the 20th century, and both suffered from the decline of those trades before picking back up later on.

    Chicago's murders shot up from 432 in 2014 to 488 in 2015. Toronto's total dipped slightly from 57 in 2014 to 56 in 2015. At 2.0 murders per 100,000 people, Toronto's rate was roughly half of NYC's rate, roughly a ninth of Chicago's rate, less than half the US national average of 4.5 (for 2014 - not 2015 - so that's definitely going up) , was lower than the 2014 state average of Utah, and was the same as the state averages of Oregon and Idaho.

    In a sense, a city like Toronto is an example of what American cities might be like without certain unenviable historical burdens.

    Thank God cotton doesn’t grow that far north, Eh?

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  82. @Grahams number G(64)


    The Hispanics are world champions at murder.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/brazil/12126593/Caracas-named-as-the-worlds-most-violent-city.html

    17/20 of the world's most violent cities are in central/South America, 2 from US & 1 from South Africa.

    The top 20:
    1 Caracas, Venezuela
    2 San Pedro, Sula Honduras
    3 San Salvador, El Salvador
    4 Acapulco, Mexico
    5 Maturín, Venezuela
    6 Distrito Central, Honduras
    7 Valencia, Venezuela
    8 Palmira, Colombia
    9 Cape Town, South Africa
    10 Cali, Colombia
    11 Ciudad Guayana, Venezuela
    12 Fortaleza, Brazil
    13 Natal, Brazil
    14 Salvador, Brazil
    15 St Louis, USA
    16 João Pessoa, Brazil
    17 Culiacán, Mexico
    18 Maceió, Brazil
    19 Baltimore, USA
    20 Barquisimeto, Venezuela

    Well USA that's your future if you don't treat immigration as an emergency.

    At least two of those Brazilian cities, Natal and Salvador, are largely African cities that happen to be located in Latin America.

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  83. NOTA says:
    @Glossy
    If this is the new trend, gentrification will end soon. I just Googled for "White Flight 2.0" - it's been used already, though not in this context, at least not among the top hits.

    The amount of money that's gone into gentrification in NYC is stunning. There are so many luxury buildings under construction now. For all of that to go to waste...

    Yep. Gentrification and walkable cities depend on low crime. Otherwise all the nice educated whites and Asians will move to someplace where the neighbors have to be well off to live there and the cops run the underclass off (as well as any poor-looking blacks and Hispanics)

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  84. NOTA says:
    @Big Bill

    The question that no one asks about poor Flint, Mi is “Why couldn’t they take care of their own city and its infrastructure?”
     
    Because the jobs left, the whites left, and the Talented Tenth ran off after the white folks.

    When industry leaves, the gifted and talented leave, but the human dregs stay behind. The population shrinks substantially, but the infrastructure is still full size.

    Yep. It’s like a thought experiment about open borders between Libertaria and SocialWelfaria. The smart and hard working and lucky move to Libertaria for the low taxes and really amazing whorehouses, the old and sick and broken move to SocialWelfaria for the generous benefits

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  85. Big Bill says:
    @Anon7
    Actually, Flint is about 50% black and 40% white, although media coverage that mostly features black faces might leave you with a different impression. The liberal narrative, you know.

    The full-size infrastructure is a huge burden and nobody wants to confront the two reasonable approaches, as noted below.

    I'd answer my own question by saying that Flint has too many problems that are too new and too complicated to be solved by its cognitively challenged population. Frankly, I think that the population of Flint should be moved somewhere else, and the entire city should be either bulldozed and covered over and abandoned for human use, or it should be declared a Superfund site and remediated at a cost of many $billions.

    In the meantime, we learn that the state government concluded that the water was unsafe at least ten months before the public was told, and even supplied bottle water for its own employees in Flint. SMH...

    The problems are the same as they are in the other big cities, eg Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit, Newark, East St. Louis, etc. Dummies stick around. Smarties leave. Collapse follows. I agree with your suggestions., however. You cannot get Smarties to return if they are expected to pay for a massive, broken infrastructure AND all the welfare cases and deadbeats that hung around. There needs to be a way to “deaccession” big chunks of Flint, Detroit, etc. and let urban pioneers move back.

    Think of it this way. If the Puritans were obligated to give American aborigines welfare, free medical care, free schools, free fire protection, free policing, AND they were obligated to submit to aboriginal tribal courts and aboriginal chiefs, they NEVER would have settled in New England.

    So why should anyone expect new white settlers in the Detroit wilderness to pay for and submit to the aborigines of Detroit?

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  86. donut says:

    I think that there is probably a large group of AA citizens who are just as disgusted by black mob violence and general bad behavior as we are . But just like us they are either too intimidated or too busy with their lives to speak up .

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    Except for long time Isteve commenter Truth, who's always busy coming up with excuses for his people. They can never do wrong.
    , @Arclight
    I think this is true. When I lived in a pre-gentrification black neighborhood in DC, a lot of the older long time residents would complain about the generation that came after them - the proliferation of out of wedlock pregnancies, the crime, the indifference to the concept of working or earning an honest living. These were all working class people who had raised their kids in two parent homes and made an effort to keep up their homes and the neighborhood.

    They also had low trust in the (majority black) police force, correctly noting that many of them were basically criminals themselves or related to them, and if a good citizen called the police because of a violent crime, more often than not the police would tell the perpetrator who had dropped a dime.

    The area underwent a ton of violence during the crack epidemic and then a secondary wave right before the Great Recession as large numbers of previously-incarcerated people completed their sentences and came back home. When we discussed the surge in homicides, the response of one of my neighbors was that "it was just the trash taking out the trash."
    , @SFG
    It's easier to blame your old historical enemies than your son who you've been trying to get to stop running around on the street with the wrong crowd for ten years now, and he looked like he had it down, but then he lost his job and had nothing else to do, and then he went off with a gang you told him not to hang around with and they shot someone, but he wasn't the guy who pulled the trigger, just in the crowd, and the cops arrested everyone...and you remember the cute little kid who used to puke up his Similac, he wasn't a bad guy...it was the bad company, it always is.
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  87. JackOH says:
    @AndrewR
    Because the jobs left and, along with them, so did most of the folks with self-control.

    Given the forum, it's not hard to guess what you are implying here. While the massive influx of blacks during the "great migration" didn't help Flint in the long run, one would be remiss to neglect to note the low quality of many of the Southern whites who migrated to Flint during the middle of the last century, many of whose descendents still reside in the city and act largely indistinguishable from the ghetto black population. Trust me when I say that spending time in the east side of Flint will make even the most ardent pro-white advocate do some real soul searching.

    ” . . . [O]ne would be remiss to neglect to note the low quality of many of the Southern whites who migrated to Flint during the middle of the last century, many of whose descendents still reside in the city and act largely indistinguishable from the ghetto black population.”

    Agree. I don’t know Flint, but my own area’s industrial work force (in NE Ohio) was a mash of poor Southern whites, Southern Blacks, and Euro-ethnics. A volatile mix of peoples that resulted in bloody clashes between the more nativist than racist KKK and the Mob in the early 20th century.

    I’m a fan of the topics brought up by Steve and the other writers on “UR”. I’m skeptical, though, that the thinking here can meaningfully inform policy choices and legislation. Why? Because most white folks, I think, have successfully self-segregated from Blacks (at tremendous cost) one way or another. Having distanced themselves from the very real existential threat that Blackism poses to Western values, they’re (whites, that is) back to differentiating themselves from one another on the bases of class, income, secondary school, religious affiliation, ZIP code of residence, and God knows what-all.

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    For what it's worth Steve is widely read by members of the smart set. They don't openly admit it but Coulter definitely reads this blog & she has Trump's ear.

    So if policy is not directly being influenced by this blog yet, it's going to be.
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  88. AndrewR says:
    @Corvinus
    "...low quality of many of the Southern whites who migrated to Flint during the middle of the last century, many of whose descendents still reside in the city and act largely indistinguishable from the ghetto black population."

    What do you mean by "low quality southern whites"? Be specific, please. Would you characterize yourself as not part of this group? In what way?

    Lazy, dumb, violent, substance abusing, r-selected, etc. Wiggers.

    Not that hard to figure out what I meant.

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    "Lazy, dumb, violent, substance abusing, r-selected, etc. Wiggers. Not that hard to figure out what I meant."

    You just described any person who can be those things at any point in time. And just stop with this r-selected b.s. It's pseudo-science.
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  89. David says:

    Off topic, I thought this group would be interested to know that a couple of days ago in Honduras the supposed third ranking member of “18th Street” gang in that country was killed in a hospital by members of some other gang. The dead jefe’s nombre de guerre was, “The Dreamer.”

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  90. IA says:
    @Glossy
    If this is the new trend, gentrification will end soon. I just Googled for "White Flight 2.0" - it's been used already, though not in this context, at least not among the top hits.

    The amount of money that's gone into gentrification in NYC is stunning. There are so many luxury buildings under construction now. For all of that to go to waste...

    If this is the new trend, gentrification will end soon.

    I doubt it. If things get too edgy you move to whiter areas and let the next wave of brainwashed, gullible, ex-suburbanites fight in the trenches. If you bought property even 5 years ago you can get equity from a sale. Also, these gentrifiers view themselves as on the right side of history. They have an élan their parents or grandparents did not share. They are card-carrying Obama voters and feminists. They start restaurants and micro-brew bars with European menus and go to yoga classes. They build bike lanes and modern art galleries. All to baffle, intimidate and confuse negroes. They finesse rather than blatantly oppress like those bigot, hater, racist, bad whites.

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  91. Richard S says:
    @Ginger Bread Man
    how did you insert links into your comment?

    With html?

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  92. Travis says:
    @Jonathan Mason
    It would be interesting to know whether increased murder rates are perhaps a manifestation of in-house downsizing as an early indicator of an upcoming economic downturn already affecting demand for products of organized crime gangs such as drugs and prostitutes.

    good point…the economic conditions of the under-class may have declined due to poor economic conditions…also the legalization of Marijuana in multiple states may have effected drug dealers across the nation…as many of my friends on the East coast who smoke dope now get their drugs from friends out west where it is legal or semi-legal (CA) , sometimes even via Fed-Ex. One pot-head I know gets his edible marijuana from CA delivered monthly to Philly from our friend who has a prescription. So it has become much easier to get weed without going to a dealer which must be reducing their income.

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  93. neutral says:
    @PV van der Byl
    What I can't understand is how Cape Town is on the list but Johannesburg and Durban are not.

    Obviously, much has changed since I lived in SA, but greater Johannesburg and Durban long had much higher black populations and violent crime rates than Cape Town.

    Has CT's black population (in places like Khayelitsha) grown so dramatically?

    Or has SAPS been under-reporting crime in Johannesburg/Durban, perhaps because of ANC control, while providing accurate stats for Cape Town, perhaps because of DA inflience?

    You simply cannot trust the stats that come out of South Africa regarding crime, I say this as somebody living in South Africa. Regarding that list of the cities of the highest crime rates, if there was a truly correct way of gathering from all the cities, then you would find that almost all the African cities would at the top of the list. The reason you do not see them is that they are not capable of collecting the correct stats.

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  94. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Rick Johnsmeyer
    It's interesting to compare Chicago with Toronto, since both are Great Lakes cities with remarkably similar populations within city limits (Chicago being somewhere around 2.75 million people; Toronto somewhat above 2.8). Both were industrial powerhouses earlier in the 20th century, and both suffered from the decline of those trades before picking back up later on.

    Chicago's murders shot up from 432 in 2014 to 488 in 2015. Toronto's total dipped slightly from 57 in 2014 to 56 in 2015. At 2.0 murders per 100,000 people, Toronto's rate was roughly half of NYC's rate, roughly a ninth of Chicago's rate, less than half the US national average of 4.5 (for 2014 - not 2015 - so that's definitely going up) , was lower than the 2014 state average of Utah, and was the same as the state averages of Oregon and Idaho.

    In a sense, a city like Toronto is an example of what American cities might be like without certain unenviable historical burdens.

    And what comparatively few killings there are in Toronto are almost entirely committed by non-whites, Jamaicans in particular.

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    And what comparatively few killings there are in Toronto are almost entirely committed by non-whites, Jamaicans in particular.

    That and mafia hits.

    http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2016/01/28/man-injured-in-2012-college-street-shooting-killed-in-etobicoke.html
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  95. 2Mintzin1 [AKA "Mike"] says:
    @Big Bill

    The question that no one asks about poor Flint, Mi is “Why couldn’t they take care of their own city and its infrastructure?”
     
    Because the jobs left, the whites left, and the Talented Tenth ran off after the white folks.

    When industry leaves, the gifted and talented leave, but the human dregs stay behind. The population shrinks substantially, but the infrastructure is still full size.

    Absolutely…this effect is very visible in my area (suburb of upstate NY rust belt city) it is like everyone with “get-up-and-go” got up and left.

    Ever see a beach after the tide has gone out, littered with trash? That’s my ‘hood.

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    Mr. Bill:

    The proposed solution to the (partly self-inflicted) budget problems of the cities, including the "massive, broken infrastructure AND all the welfare cases and deadbeats that hung around" up here in upstate NY, is for the cities to consolidate their school districts with the surrounding suburbs, thus Hoovering up money from the pockets of the honkies who fled the cities.

    This has been proposed, trial-balloon fashion, in both Syracuse and Buffalo, as a good government measure to reduce duplicative government entities, etc...I doubt that it will become reality, however, until political conditions are right i.e., Democrats are firmly in power in both the cities and surrounding suburbs, and I don't see that happening soon.

    Of course, I confidently predicted that Donald Trump, as a candidate, would never be more than a piñata for the press, so consider the source.
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  96. BB753 says:
    @donut
    I think that there is probably a large group of AA citizens who are just as disgusted by black mob violence and general bad behavior as we are . But just like us they are either too intimidated or too busy with their lives to speak up .

    Except for long time Isteve commenter Truth, who’s always busy coming up with excuses for his people. They can never do wrong.

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    It's a reflex action of sorts.
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  97. 2Mintzin1 [AKA "Mike"] says:
    @2Mintzin1
    Absolutely...this effect is very visible in my area (suburb of upstate NY rust belt city) it is like everyone with "get-up-and-go" got up and left.

    Ever see a beach after the tide has gone out, littered with trash? That's my 'hood.

    Mr. Bill:

    The proposed solution to the (partly self-inflicted) budget problems of the cities, including the “massive, broken infrastructure AND all the welfare cases and deadbeats that hung around” up here in upstate NY, is for the cities to consolidate their school districts with the surrounding suburbs, thus Hoovering up money from the pockets of the honkies who fled the cities.

    This has been proposed, trial-balloon fashion, in both Syracuse and Buffalo, as a good government measure to reduce duplicative government entities, etc…I doubt that it will become reality, however, until political conditions are right i.e., Democrats are firmly in power in both the cities and surrounding suburbs, and I don’t see that happening soon.

    Of course, I confidently predicted that Donald Trump, as a candidate, would never be more than a piñata for the press, so consider the source.

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    Mike, I know Buffalo and it's suburbs. The city of Buffalo School District (BSD) has an annual budget just short of ONE BILLION dollars at $940 million. That number does not include another $140 million in grant money. The new Superintendent of Buffalo Schools is in Albany this week asking for $48 million to fund some new initiatives he is proposing . The City of Buffalo contributes only 7.5% of the BSD budget. We suburban honkies are doing our share for the BSD. Buffalo trails only NYC and Rochester in the entire nation for school districts with 30,000 students. They spent almost $21,000 per pupil. Suburbanites, white ,brown, yellow can't flee any further. They will revolt.
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  98. Pat Boyle says:
    @Anon7
    "Liberals, both black & white, don’t believe blacks can do much on their own."

    I agree with that.

    The problem in Flint is that the white, male governor of Michigan rightly concluded that the city of Flint couldn't solve its own problems (good!) but put moron friends/cronies in charge who apparently screwed up badly at several key points (bad!).

    But you're right. If Governor Snyder had done nothing, and this problem happened, the state of Michigan would still be on the hook for solving the problem. That's what's so dangerous about laws that allow the state to put in an emergency manager. If you appoint a manager and he fails, you're at fault. If the situation goes bad and you could have appointed a manager and you didn't, it's also your fault. Damned if you do...

    Also of note: The national media have not yet caught on to the fact that the same guy who apparently screwed up in Flint has been put in charge of a very similar set of problems in the Detroit public schools. Hopefully, Governor Snyder is reviewing that decision...

    Yes its the same guy Darnell Earley a black guy with a good appearance but not much of a record of accomplishment. He didn’t know much about water systems and now we’ll see how much he knows about education.

    Flint is of course a failing city. It is in serious financial trouble. Early was the fourth emergency manager appointed in six years. He inherited a financial problem and also a water problem. Flint had had a corruption problem in the fifties with a new water source. A powerful local politician had tried to tried to maneuver Flint to buy Lake Huron facilities on land he had been buying up. Flint was repelled by this attempt and just bought their water from Detroit.

    But of course Detroit had its own problems. Approximately half of Detroit’s remaining population doesn’t pay its water bill. They have been cutting off service to users in an attempt to become solvent once again. Detroit it seemed no longer valued the Flint business.

    Flint made a deal with a new Huron water company in Genesee county. Detroit water learned of this and raised Flint’s rates. But Flint couldn’t use the new Huron water source for two years. So Early was confronted with two years of high rates – rates he did not want to pay.

    The Emergency Manager overrides the local elected officials. The local officials approved of Earley’s plan to use water from the Flint River but it was his decision alone. There are pictures on the Web of the council happily celebrating the decision while raising glasses of the poisonous Flint River water.

    The area of the water uptake is a former Buick facility. It is polluted. But that’s not the problem. The residents like to get their pictures taken holding a bottle of rusty brown water. That’s not the problem either. The rust and dirt in the water is generally harmless but the lead is deadly. lead is colorless and odorless in water.

    The problem is that Flint has lead feeder pipes from the water mains. Here in Oakland California there are no lead feeder pipes. They all were taken out years ago but in the East many big and small cities still have lead pipes in their water distribution systems. Many of these cities now have big expensive projects under weigh to dig them all up. In one city this is a half billion dollar project.

    Most of the time a city can tolerate lead pipes because an impervious lead oxide film forms on the inside of the pipes. This is why Rome could use lead pipes for centuries without bad effects. Their lead problem came from other areas – cooking vessels and wine.

    Rome had alkali water but the Flint River is acidic. It quickly dissolved the protective lead coating in the Flint water system feeder pipes. One authority writes that the permissible level of lead is 10 parts per billion. Another says eleven. The federal government use fifteen as a limit. There have been some measurements from the Flint water system of over three thousand ppb. Bad water.

    Darnell Earley was trying to save some money.

    There are no lead feeder pipes in the EBMUD (East Bay Municipal Utilities District) but there may be lead pipes in my house. I had a new water heater installed last year it probably was soldered with the new no-lead solder. Apparently even brass faucets are made with a small amount of lead. But all these minor lead sources are under attack. In the near future nothing will be allowed to contain lead that might come in contact with human water consumption. Domestic lead will go the way of asbestos.

    How is it that I know all this? I know this much and quite a bit more because I spent a couple hours this morning reading Wikipedia and some news articles. So I wonder why Earley who was made the head of a water department didn’t know any of it?

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    Pat, There was an old saying that Flint is where the people from Gary go for vacation.
    , @Marty
    Great comment. I'd just add one note local to Pat and myself. In SF, seemingly all water department employees are white. They're very easy to spot, the only city employees driving bright green vehicles. I've yet to see anyone black in them. There must have been some kind of bargain made long ago - we'll risk hiring blacks for other city departments, but not Water.
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  99. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Anon
    What concerns me is that states like Colorado and Oregon may see their violent crime increase. Drugs are one of the few ways the untalented, dumb, and ruthless can make a living. Pot legalization may lure blacks to these places much the same way Henry Ford's assembly line jobs drew blacks to Detroit in the 1920s. With a flood of violent blacks pouring into these states, both may end up going to utter hell.

    So it looks like legalization, which is essentially a white effect to rig the pot trade so they don't have to buy from those awful, awful, declasse blacks anymore, may backfire.

    “..legalization…may backfire.”

    Well we can always criminalize it again.

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    “..legalization…may backfire.”
     
    Well we can always criminalize it again.
     
    New York tried that with abortion in 1972. It didn't stick.

    Cf. horse/barn door and toothpaste/tube
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  100. I found it interesting that what happens in St. Louis is not counted because St. Louis proper is not in the biggest 50 cities list. But the St. Louis metropolitan area has to be in the top 50 metropolitan areas, I’d bet in the top 25. No one lives in the city proper: even years ago it was mostly industrial, with a small downtown core area of historical sites and a few higher end residential areas, some of which have turned to hardcore ghetto. As far back as the 1880s, people were spreading to the hinterlands, hence the lovely old Victorians and turn of the century market buildings on Manchester Road.

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  101. Anonymous says: • Website • Disclaimer

    From Savannah, GA:

    As Chief Lumpkin and the SCMPD cast about for answers to the alarming 2015 murder rate, they have identified domestic violence (along with guns) as the main generator of the swollen 2015 numbers.

    While I feel sure this was certainly true, were there any other factors that may have influenced the explosion of homicides in Savannah? So I looked at the SCMPD weekly crime data reports for 2015.

    Maybe some pattern will jump out from the numbers that would help me understand the state of Savannah and what in the world happened to bloat the city’s murder numbers to a level not seen since the Jivens Gang. Maybe it really was just an uptick in domestic violence with the easy availability of guns that led to the increased 2015 murder rate.

    Nah.

    The numbers show something different:

    –There were 6 murders in Savannah from January 1, 2015 to April 11, 2015. This number was actually down 3 from 2014 and down 2 from 2013. That’s super good policing, right? Extrapolating that number out from the first 15 weeks of 2015, SCMPD could reasonably predict about 21 murders for the year–a substantial decrease from 2014 and 2013. Kudos for everyone!

    –Looking at the data historically, we know that 23 more murders were committed in 2014 and 22 more murders were committed in 2013 from mid-April on. So by mid-April, about 25% of the year’s total murders were committed in 2013 and 2014 (28% in 2014). By mid-April 2015, the murder total was only 12.5% of the year’s total. Something happened in mid April 2015 that pulled the murder numbers higher from 2014 and 2013.

    –According to the weekly reports, the time period between February 22, 2015-April 11, 2015 was the safest portion of the year. Not one murder was committed. Zero. Go back a tad further and only 1 murder was committed from February 8, 2015-April 11, 2015. Unprecedented peace in Savannah! Then all hell breaks loose.

    –By April 18, 2015 Savannah’s peace was shattered by a triple homicide. For the next 37 weeks, the murder rate climbs, finally surpassing the 2014 and 2013 murder rates for good by May 9, 2015. (That’s the date Savannah sees its 12th murder of the year with both 2014 and 2013 having 11 murders. This lead stays and grows for the rest of 2015).

    –October 2015 carded 10 murders making it the bloodiest month of the year. Between September 27, 2015 and November 28, 2015, 16 murders were committed–almost 30% of the year’s total.

    –Not only did the murder numbers soar in 2015, but the violent crimes rate (rapes, robberies, assaults) increased too. By the end of 2015, the violent crime rate was a full 25% higher than 2014 and 36% higher than 2013.

    What happened?

    Let’s see. Easily availability of guns? Yep. Gang activity? Yep. People using guns to solve their domestic issues? Yep. But heck, that’s every day in Savannah. Why the sudden, dramatic increase in murderous, violent behavior?

    The Baltimore Black Lives Matter rioting began on April 18, 2015 and lasted until May 3, 2015. A good portion of Savannah’s black governmental and educational infrastructure seem to subscribe to the Black Lives Matter cause as an article of faith. Most every black candidate in this year’s election cycle paid lip service to the Black Lives Matter credo. Look at the restorative justice programs the school system has signed up for and its apparent that many, many more violent infractions in schools are being ignored–because Black Lives Matter.

    I suppose with the SCMPD always riding with about 75-80 vacancies and with the possibility of a Black Lives Matters flare up with every arrest or domestic quarrel, not to mention being hauled into court or arrested as strong possibilities every time a cop goes off to work, who would want to enforce anything?

    But probably just a correlation. Certainly not causation.

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  102. Felix M says:

    Steve, be careful. Rational analysis of certain topics is now about to become a hate crime.

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  103. Jason Bayz says: • Website
    @Anon
    What concerns me is that states like Colorado and Oregon may see their violent crime increase. Drugs are one of the few ways the untalented, dumb, and ruthless can make a living. Pot legalization may lure blacks to these places much the same way Henry Ford's assembly line jobs drew blacks to Detroit in the 1920s. With a flood of violent blacks pouring into these states, both may end up going to utter hell.

    So it looks like legalization, which is essentially a white effect to rig the pot trade so they don't have to buy from those awful, awful, declasse blacks anymore, may backfire.

    Why? The price is pretty low in both those states, meaning that the demand is being met. There are more than enough White people in those states who have the skill set to legally produce and sell marijuana.

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    Yes, whites can produce and sell marijuana. But it's always possible for blacks to muscle their way into the operation in the old-fashioned way. A gun in the face, terrorizing, threats, and killing if the white producers don't cooperate. It's how all crime syndicates work. All it takes is a little ruthlessness and sociopathy, traits blacks have in abundance.
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  104. @anon
    "..legalization...may backfire."

    Well we can always criminalize it again.

    “..legalization…may backfire.”

    Well we can always criminalize it again.

    New York tried that with abortion in 1972. It didn’t stick.

    Cf. horse/barn door and toothpaste/tube

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    Sorry but I don't see what smoking pot and abortion have to do with each other. Neither should ever have been illegal.
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  105. This is all very sad.

    The simple fact is that the greed for cheap–or more precisely malaria resistant–labor, led some early Americans to import a population that simply had not evolved the skill set even for temperate zone agriculture (discipline, hard work, mechanical sense, planning ahead) much less for a modern industrial society.

    America has been unable to solve this problem, and post-war, Great Society welfare policy has made it even worse. And left\Democrat\Jewish blame-whitey agitation has made it even worse and more combustible. The lack of a solution is because there simple isn’t a polite solution available. What’s needed is a different set of genes.

    And if things are bad now, we have driverless cars coming. Someone posted the link to the Japanese robo-lettuce factory. We’ll quite shortly have even much less need for unskilled labor. There’s no foreseeable reason why we’d need any labor for delivery, fast food, meatpacking, even hospitality–outside of cute girls for waitresses, and even those may become robots.

    And yet from some combination of ethnic hatred, politics and greed, rather than learning the lesson from America’s unhappy racial history … we’re on a cheap labor binge. And other nations in the West, rather than learning from our sad experience, are guilt tripped into copying it. Insanity.

    It seems clear to me that the civilizations that will “win” are those that will embrace eugenics. You could substantially mostly “heal” America’s racial problem in about three generations of serious eugenics. Nations without that bitter burden are in an even better place. And it can be done with incentives, markets and payouts that keep it voluntary, non-coercive. But it does require a clear eyed willingness to see reality and face it. But for those nations that do … life is going to get *much* better. The future will belong to them.

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    I wouldn't assume European nations are copying us per se (there is this American idea that everyone copies America)...there's always the temptation for elites to get cheap labor. Look at the big landowners and their slave-mongering in the late Roman republic.
    , @Rob McX
    Great points, but I don't even think it's a need for cheap labour that's driving the rush to flood our countries with non-whites anymore, despite the fact that the global capitalists are all in favour of it. In Europe at least, they're all for indiscriminate immigration, with no distinction being made between those with marketable skills and those who are destined to be permanently unemployed. It seems the powers that be are terrified of healthy, homogeneous societies and prefer countries to be made up of rootless, insecure people demoralised by the changes they're witnessing all around them.
    , @Former Darfur
    You need secure borders and you need eugenics. The rest takes care of itself over time.

    There are a hell of a lot of whites that need to be nonbreeders, by the way.
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  106. SFG says:
    @Corvinus
    ‘“White guilt’ means whites better shut up about bad Jewish behavior.”

    

Pro-white propaganda means that whites not deemed whites cannot make up their own minds regarding boorish conduct.

    “So, the economy is shaken to the core. Middle East is in flames. Tensions rise with Russia over whatever-Jews-cook-up-next-to-subvert-Putin.”

    Niwdog’s Law—As an online discussion continues with multiple posters, the likelihood of a person making assertions that the Jews are behind everything in the world that is “bad” exponentially grows.

    “‘White guilt’ means whites better shut up about bad black behavior. So, blacks get more out of control and kill each other and others.”

    Pro-white propaganda means that whites not deemed whites lack the capacity to generate reasons as to what is and what is not racially factual.

    “‘White guilt’ means whites better shut up about non-white invaders. So, Europe turns crazier with all those migrants and US is becoming more divided with diversity.”



    Pro-white propaganda means that whites not deemed whites have no liberty to associate with non-whites

    Pro-race is code for anti-humanity.

    I think Niwdog’s law only applies on Unz. ;)

    You can take a middle path. There have been a disproportionate number of Jews in the movements to diminish white exclusivity and power, but it doesn’t mean Jews sit around thinking about how they’re going to exterminate white people…there’s a 70% intermarriage rate after all, and they’re not all Chinese girls. From what I’ve seen they seem to swallow this social justice crap, and then turn around and send their kids to private school like any other white liberal. I’d actually say they assimilated pretty well…they just assimilated into the *left* half of the American elite, and gave it a huge shot in the arm in its eternal war against the South.

    Similarly, while I think fascism is a dumb idea, particularly in the USA where pretty much some form of democracy is all we’ve ever had, if there are going to be black and Latino identity politics and the number of white people is decreasing, you’d expect white people to form identity politics sooner or later. Given what’s happened in Zimbabwe and South Africa, I wouldn’t want to be in a minority either.

    As for the Putin thing, I’m not sure how much is some weird Zionist thing (how does Ukraine’s secession help Israel?) and how much is greedy Americans trying to pull every country into their sphere of influence. I mean, it’s an empire. They like to grow. Putin’s into the same thing, only his position’s not as strong right now–we’ve got troops at his border. It’s as if Mexico were a Russian ally.

    Not to say neocons, etc., don’t do bad things (for America) on behalf of Israel–look at Iraq.

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    You know, I've always wanted to hear this explained, it's sort of a mantra/shibboleth among your set, but with certain self-evident defects of logic: "The Iraq invasion was a favor to Israel"--how? It hastened the transformation of a 4th-world fiefdom under an ailing, basically irreligious strongman into a cat's paw of Iran, coincidentally Israel's most vocal (not to mention, militarily committed) enemy. It also ruined their lifeline to Turkey and eventually sunk Mubarak. Among other vibrant developments in jihad enfranchisement.

    Yet you cling to this meme about a giant surprise Channukah gift for Likud, it was finangled by somehow, thanks to Mossad frogmen... Back in reality, if Tel Aviv, Haifa and Lower East Al-Quds had a couple dozen opinionators in 2003 advocating for war, they were laughably outnumbered by like-minded machers in London, New York, Palm Beach, and Falls Church. Is it just too identitarianistically painful to admit that paid-up goys like Cheneystein, Rumsfeldowitz, and Hadassah Rice were the sous chefs on the Iraq turd sandwich? Of course, to contemporary Yelp raves from Ann Coulterberg & Moishe Limbaugh
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  107. SFG says:
    @AnotherDad
    This is all very sad.

    The simple fact is that the greed for cheap--or more precisely malaria resistant--labor, led some early Americans to import a population that simply had not evolved the skill set even for temperate zone agriculture (discipline, hard work, mechanical sense, planning ahead) much less for a modern industrial society.

    America has been unable to solve this problem, and post-war, Great Society welfare policy has made it even worse. And left\Democrat\Jewish blame-whitey agitation has made it even worse and more combustible. The lack of a solution is because there simple isn't a polite solution available. What's needed is a different set of genes.


    And if things are bad now, we have driverless cars coming. Someone posted the link to the Japanese robo-lettuce factory. We'll quite shortly have even much less need for unskilled labor. There's no foreseeable reason why we'd need any labor for delivery, fast food, meatpacking, even hospitality--outside of cute girls for waitresses, and even those may become robots.

    And yet from some combination of ethnic hatred, politics and greed, rather than learning the lesson from America's unhappy racial history ... we're on a cheap labor binge. And other nations in the West, rather than learning from our sad experience, are guilt tripped into copying it. Insanity.

    It seems clear to me that the civilizations that will "win" are those that will embrace eugenics. You could substantially mostly "heal" America's racial problem in about three generations of serious eugenics. Nations without that bitter burden are in an even better place. And it can be done with incentives, markets and payouts that keep it voluntary, non-coercive. But it does require a clear eyed willingness to see reality and face it. But for those nations that do ... life is going to get *much* better. The future will belong to them.

    I wouldn’t assume European nations are copying us per se (there is this American idea that everyone copies America)…there’s always the temptation for elites to get cheap labor. Look at the big landowners and their slave-mongering in the late Roman republic.

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  108. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @iSteveFan

    Canada ain’t got that.
     
    Yet.

    Canada ain’t got that.

    Something the federal liberal party has been desperate to change since 1967.

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    Anon, I read your response quickly and thought you wrote "feral liberal party"....same difference.
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  109. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Reg Cæsar


    “..legalization…may backfire.”
     
    Well we can always criminalize it again.
     
    New York tried that with abortion in 1972. It didn't stick.

    Cf. horse/barn door and toothpaste/tube

    Sorry but I don’t see what smoking pot and abortion have to do with each other. Neither should ever have been illegal.

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    No but the sanctimonious do-gooders and busybodies can never rest . As with the Eighteenth Amendment , their enduring hatred for and disapproval of of their fellow citizen's tastes and behaviors has caused more damage to humanity than all the disease carrying rats that ever scurried down a mooring line . The Fascist Dictators of the 30's and 40's were positively benign in comparison .
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  110. Rob McX says:
    @AnotherDad
    This is all very sad.

    The simple fact is that the greed for cheap--or more precisely malaria resistant--labor, led some early Americans to import a population that simply had not evolved the skill set even for temperate zone agriculture (discipline, hard work, mechanical sense, planning ahead) much less for a modern industrial society.

    America has been unable to solve this problem, and post-war, Great Society welfare policy has made it even worse. And left\Democrat\Jewish blame-whitey agitation has made it even worse and more combustible. The lack of a solution is because there simple isn't a polite solution available. What's needed is a different set of genes.


    And if things are bad now, we have driverless cars coming. Someone posted the link to the Japanese robo-lettuce factory. We'll quite shortly have even much less need for unskilled labor. There's no foreseeable reason why we'd need any labor for delivery, fast food, meatpacking, even hospitality--outside of cute girls for waitresses, and even those may become robots.

    And yet from some combination of ethnic hatred, politics and greed, rather than learning the lesson from America's unhappy racial history ... we're on a cheap labor binge. And other nations in the West, rather than learning from our sad experience, are guilt tripped into copying it. Insanity.

    It seems clear to me that the civilizations that will "win" are those that will embrace eugenics. You could substantially mostly "heal" America's racial problem in about three generations of serious eugenics. Nations without that bitter burden are in an even better place. And it can be done with incentives, markets and payouts that keep it voluntary, non-coercive. But it does require a clear eyed willingness to see reality and face it. But for those nations that do ... life is going to get *much* better. The future will belong to them.

    Great points, but I don’t even think it’s a need for cheap labour that’s driving the rush to flood our countries with non-whites anymore, despite the fact that the global capitalists are all in favour of it. In Europe at least, they’re all for indiscriminate immigration, with no distinction being made between those with marketable skills and those who are destined to be permanently unemployed. It seems the powers that be are terrified of healthy, homogeneous societies and prefer countries to be made up of rootless, insecure people demoralised by the changes they’re witnessing all around them.

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  111. Steve old boy, homicides have increased because more and more Blaxx are using hollow points. When trauma surgeons figure out hollow points, murder rates will go down again. Meanwhile, no great loss.

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  113. @Alec Leamas
    That's been my prediction. Watch for some change in the style of Hipsterdom towards a more bucolic/small town aesthetic as preparatory to abandoning urban spaces. It might even be wrapped up in whole foods localism, hands in the dirt ethos, rejecting careerism in favor of beekeeping or vegetable growing, and so on.

    I grew up in inner city Philadelphia during the 70s-80s-90s urban crimewave (my parents' first house was in a neighborhood which some people would put inside of North Philadelphia). I saw first hand the abusive/pernicious use of Section 8 and white flight.

    Then, in the 2000s I watched in amazement as suburban raised kids (many of whose parents fled cities before their births to escape crime and urban decay) moved into cities including Philadelphia in a wave of gentrification. I recall thinking that they had the affect of white lab rabbits about to be released into the wild. There have, of course, been incidents of vibrancy which have occurred, usually on the leading edges of the Hipster wave. But thus far they've been somewhat muted in media coverage and wrapped in levels of euphemism and misdirection. But there gets to be a point where the crime hits home - whether someone gets a sudden dose of vibrancy in an area and at a time when you frequent, or someone you know personally is a victim, etc. after which your perception of these events changes from "I live in an exciting place where sometimes bad things happen" to "this place is not safe for me and my loved ones." This effect is probably delayed a bit by Hipsters and young whites postponing having children (exposing one's children to vibrancy requires a second order of obliviousness), but I predict white flight it is an inevitability if the new trend of urban crime continues.

    Suburban raised gentrifier here, now a Philly resident.

    It is true that there’s been a change in crime over the past year. I don’t walk by myself after dark anymore. It’s not bad enough that I would move, though, and I haven’t heard of anyone else moving for that reason.

    I do know people who’ve moved to the suburbs for the schools. My kids have been very happy with their schools, but it is a tremendous pain in the neck to navigate the system for K-4, and then admission to the good middle and high schools require top standardized test scores. Plenty of people get sick of the hassle and go. But no one is leaving because of safety.

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    "But no one is leaving because of safety."

    Murders increased 12 percent over 2014 and nonfatal shootings 18 percent over 2014. I doubt that those numbers are anomalies given the similar increases in other urban areas. Some "nonfatal shootings" are no doubt injuries which would be murders in years past but for heroic life saving treatments and technologies perfected on the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Understand that in the bad old days, murders were about double of what they are now, with a larger population. If shootings and murders continue to rise year over year according to the 2015 trend you're looking at a fairly rapid wave of crime which will not take long to return to 70s/80s/early 90s rates. So what will happen is that limited police resources will be diverted to solving murders and shootings and assaults, rapes, home invasions, muggings and sundry property crimes will increase. Law enforcement on the triage system. Philadelphia is now majority black and the political apparatus is near entirely beholden to blacks. The chances that you'll see a reformer cum law and order type in the mold of Rendell regain the Mayoralty any time soon is remote at best. The path to City Hall lies in denying the criminality of blacks while using the crime rate as a pretext to demand more programs and funding from Uncle Sam and the Commonwealth. All of the bad old excuses and deflections for urban crime never really went away.

    It's just a bit silly and naive to say after the first year of a this trend "I'm not concerned."

    When you wake up one morning and realize that your freedom is self-restrained and your mental repose is constantly invaded by the ever present specter of crime you'll likely change your mind. That, or downwardly spiraling property values attendant to crime.

    Once again, I'm saying this as a kid who grew up in Philadelphia and saw this happen before. I still have family members, friends, and associates who are Philadelphia Police Officers - if you only knew what they're saying it'd curl your hair.

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  114. @Alec Leamas
    That's been my prediction. Watch for some change in the style of Hipsterdom towards a more bucolic/small town aesthetic as preparatory to abandoning urban spaces. It might even be wrapped up in whole foods localism, hands in the dirt ethos, rejecting careerism in favor of beekeeping or vegetable growing, and so on.

    I grew up in inner city Philadelphia during the 70s-80s-90s urban crimewave (my parents' first house was in a neighborhood which some people would put inside of North Philadelphia). I saw first hand the abusive/pernicious use of Section 8 and white flight.

    Then, in the 2000s I watched in amazement as suburban raised kids (many of whose parents fled cities before their births to escape crime and urban decay) moved into cities including Philadelphia in a wave of gentrification. I recall thinking that they had the affect of white lab rabbits about to be released into the wild. There have, of course, been incidents of vibrancy which have occurred, usually on the leading edges of the Hipster wave. But thus far they've been somewhat muted in media coverage and wrapped in levels of euphemism and misdirection. But there gets to be a point where the crime hits home - whether someone gets a sudden dose of vibrancy in an area and at a time when you frequent, or someone you know personally is a victim, etc. after which your perception of these events changes from "I live in an exciting place where sometimes bad things happen" to "this place is not safe for me and my loved ones." This effect is probably delayed a bit by Hipsters and young whites postponing having children (exposing one's children to vibrancy requires a second order of obliviousness), but I predict white flight it is an inevitability if the new trend of urban crime continues.

    incidents of vibrancy

    High-larious.

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  115. unit472 says:
    @David
    I agree with your comment I just wanted to say that the hurricane that swamped New Orleans was a nothing storm 72 hours before landfall. It wasn't even very threatening 24 hours before.

    If there had been 72 hours of warning, nothing would have been done to mitigate the disaster so it's not too important a point.

    Hurricane Katrina was a picture perfect Category 5 hurricane the day before landfall with winds of 175 mph. It was due south of New Orleans. Only a small ‘wobble’ to the east prevented this storm from coming in right on top of New Orleans. Everyone who checked the National Hurricane Center updates knew this storm was off the charts dangerous and New Orleans was in great peril.

    I recall watching as Mayor Nagin began sending people to the Louisiana Super Dome and wondered what in the hell he was thinking. As it happened the roof began to fail on that structure despite the most intense winds being miles to the east in Gulfport. Had Katrina come over New Orleans its 29 foot storm surge and Category three winds would have obliterated that city and left thousands dead in the ‘emergency shelters’.

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    Here is the wind speed and track data. At 3am Aug 28 top winds were 100 mph. 12 hours later, top winds were 150 mph. That is a rare pace of intensification that no one expected. Katrina made land fall 11 AM Aug 29, just over 24 hours after the intensification began. The top wind speeds over the life of the storm were 150 mph.

    http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/2005H/KATRINA/track.dat

    , @Alec Leamas
    This is all true, and I recall cable news at the time interviewing people saying, in effect, "aren't you concerned about this massive Hurricane just offshore" and the response being "laissez le bon ton roulet." I mean quite literally those words were spoken in response.
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  116. donut says:
    @anon
    Sorry but I don't see what smoking pot and abortion have to do with each other. Neither should ever have been illegal.

    No but the sanctimonious do-gooders and busybodies can never rest . As with the Eighteenth Amendment , their enduring hatred for and disapproval of of their fellow citizen’s tastes and behaviors has caused more damage to humanity than all the disease carrying rats that ever scurried down a mooring line . The Fascist Dictators of the 30′s and 40′s were positively benign in comparison .

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  117. Ed says:
    @JackOH
    " . . . [O]ne would be remiss to neglect to note the low quality of many of the Southern whites who migrated to Flint during the middle of the last century, many of whose descendents still reside in the city and act largely indistinguishable from the ghetto black population."

    Agree. I don't know Flint, but my own area's industrial work force (in NE Ohio) was a mash of poor Southern whites, Southern Blacks, and Euro-ethnics. A volatile mix of peoples that resulted in bloody clashes between the more nativist than racist KKK and the Mob in the early 20th century.

    I'm a fan of the topics brought up by Steve and the other writers on "UR". I'm skeptical, though, that the thinking here can meaningfully inform policy choices and legislation. Why? Because most white folks, I think, have successfully self-segregated from Blacks (at tremendous cost) one way or another. Having distanced themselves from the very real existential threat that Blackism poses to Western values, they're (whites, that is) back to differentiating themselves from one another on the bases of class, income, secondary school, religious affiliation, ZIP code of residence, and God knows what-all.

    For what it’s worth Steve is widely read by members of the smart set. They don’t openly admit it but Coulter definitely reads this blog & she has Trump’s ear.

    So if policy is not directly being influenced by this blog yet, it’s going to be.

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  118. a reader says:
    @Ginger Bread Man
    how did you insert links into your comment?

    I read this tutorial.

    I press the Preview Comment key below the Body of Comment frame to ascertain it’s OK.

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  119. @anonymous
    So far this year Chicago has had 47 homicides, 45 by gun, and 221 gunshot woundings (don't know how many non-fatal stabbings or serious assaults with blunt instruments). This will increase a bit since January is not yet over and the weekend is starting. About a quarter of it is Hispanic the rest black with perhaps one white in the mix. There's been a number of police shootings that've created the usual ruckus and provided fodder for the professional demonstrators. The police used to be able to terrorize the criminal class using their own discretion. Now with everything on camera that's over with. With people like the Baltimore mayor and Holder calling the shots those inclined towards criminality feel free to do whatever they please and aren't afraid of any consequences. One look at the saggy-pants crowd and it's obvious they're a separate breed who are unemployable, mentally and psychologically. Look at all the blacks in the Chicago public school system who are in Special Ed for being mentally below par. They're all on SSI for disability and all of them will go on to have children, the women as single parents on welfare, the men as baby daddy types who go in and out of jail. It's the next generation of the underclass.

    A hundred years ago, people had the right idea on how to handle this. But because someone twenty years later and six thousand miles away did things that were not very nice, we can’t even talk about it today.

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  120. @AnotherDad
    This is all very sad.

    The simple fact is that the greed for cheap--or more precisely malaria resistant--labor, led some early Americans to import a population that simply had not evolved the skill set even for temperate zone agriculture (discipline, hard work, mechanical sense, planning ahead) much less for a modern industrial society.

    America has been unable to solve this problem, and post-war, Great Society welfare policy has made it even worse. And left\Democrat\Jewish blame-whitey agitation has made it even worse and more combustible. The lack of a solution is because there simple isn't a polite solution available. What's needed is a different set of genes.


    And if things are bad now, we have driverless cars coming. Someone posted the link to the Japanese robo-lettuce factory. We'll quite shortly have even much less need for unskilled labor. There's no foreseeable reason why we'd need any labor for delivery, fast food, meatpacking, even hospitality--outside of cute girls for waitresses, and even those may become robots.

    And yet from some combination of ethnic hatred, politics and greed, rather than learning the lesson from America's unhappy racial history ... we're on a cheap labor binge. And other nations in the West, rather than learning from our sad experience, are guilt tripped into copying it. Insanity.

    It seems clear to me that the civilizations that will "win" are those that will embrace eugenics. You could substantially mostly "heal" America's racial problem in about three generations of serious eugenics. Nations without that bitter burden are in an even better place. And it can be done with incentives, markets and payouts that keep it voluntary, non-coercive. But it does require a clear eyed willingness to see reality and face it. But for those nations that do ... life is going to get *much* better. The future will belong to them.

    You need secure borders and you need eugenics. The rest takes care of itself over time.

    There are a hell of a lot of whites that need to be nonbreeders, by the way.

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    "You need secure borders..."

    Yes.

    "and you need eugenics."

    Absolutely not. Praytell, what gives you the liberty to make such a decision?

    "There are a hell of a lot of whites that need to be nonbreeders, by the way."

    That is a decidedly anti-white statement.
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  121. @Corvinus
    ‘“White guilt’ means whites better shut up about bad Jewish behavior.”

    

Pro-white propaganda means that whites not deemed whites cannot make up their own minds regarding boorish conduct.

    “So, the economy is shaken to the core. Middle East is in flames. Tensions rise with Russia over whatever-Jews-cook-up-next-to-subvert-Putin.”

    Niwdog’s Law—As an online discussion continues with multiple posters, the likelihood of a person making assertions that the Jews are behind everything in the world that is “bad” exponentially grows.

    “‘White guilt’ means whites better shut up about bad black behavior. So, blacks get more out of control and kill each other and others.”

    Pro-white propaganda means that whites not deemed whites lack the capacity to generate reasons as to what is and what is not racially factual.

    “‘White guilt’ means whites better shut up about non-white invaders. So, Europe turns crazier with all those migrants and US is becoming more divided with diversity.”



    Pro-white propaganda means that whites not deemed whites have no liberty to associate with non-whites

    Pro-race is code for anti-humanity.

    Corvinus, you are to Bob Whitaker what El Kabong is to Pete Townshend.

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  122. @Corvinus
    ‘“White guilt’ means whites better shut up about bad Jewish behavior.”

    

Pro-white propaganda means that whites not deemed whites cannot make up their own minds regarding boorish conduct.

    “So, the economy is shaken to the core. Middle East is in flames. Tensions rise with Russia over whatever-Jews-cook-up-next-to-subvert-Putin.”

    Niwdog’s Law—As an online discussion continues with multiple posters, the likelihood of a person making assertions that the Jews are behind everything in the world that is “bad” exponentially grows.

    “‘White guilt’ means whites better shut up about bad black behavior. So, blacks get more out of control and kill each other and others.”

    Pro-white propaganda means that whites not deemed whites lack the capacity to generate reasons as to what is and what is not racially factual.

    “‘White guilt’ means whites better shut up about non-white invaders. So, Europe turns crazier with all those migrants and US is becoming more divided with diversity.”



    Pro-white propaganda means that whites not deemed whites have no liberty to associate with non-whites

    Pro-race is code for anti-humanity.

    Corvinus, you are to Bob Whitaker what El Kabong is to Pete Townshend.

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  123. David says:
    @unit472
    Hurricane Katrina was a picture perfect Category 5 hurricane the day before landfall with winds of 175 mph. It was due south of New Orleans. Only a small 'wobble' to the east prevented this storm from coming in right on top of New Orleans. Everyone who checked the National Hurricane Center updates knew this storm was off the charts dangerous and New Orleans was in great peril.

    I recall watching as Mayor Nagin began sending people to the Louisiana Super Dome and wondered what in the hell he was thinking. As it happened the roof began to fail on that structure despite the most intense winds being miles to the east in Gulfport. Had Katrina come over New Orleans its 29 foot storm surge and Category three winds would have obliterated that city and left thousands dead in the 'emergency shelters'.

    Here is the wind speed and track data. At 3am Aug 28 top winds were 100 mph. 12 hours later, top winds were 150 mph. That is a rare pace of intensification that no one expected. Katrina made land fall 11 AM Aug 29, just over 24 hours after the intensification began. The top wind speeds over the life of the storm were 150 mph.

    http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/2005H/KATRINA/track.dat

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  124. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Formerly CARealist
    My local city, Sacramento, had a nice brisk increase of 54%. Here's a little news clip explaining that part of the problem is, of course, white people. White cops cause an increase in homicides. Honestly, do these people have any shame at all?

    http://www.kcra.com/news/the-part-of-sacramento-with-the-most-murders-is/37265630

    Also robbery and assault are on the increase. In Citrus Heights I see an awful lot of transients roaming around and the cops I know tell me they steal constantly. Lovely, just lovely.

    Despite broken windows ambience & regalia of slumnification Sacramento like most of the Central Valley cities is not especially dangerous, at least not by comparison to the coastal cities which are consistently worse for violent crime. Now even theoretically yuppie-friendly Santa Cruz has become a beachhead for gangs. The closer to the ocean, the more wacked-out the civic politicians tend to be (I am referring to medium & big cities, not obvious contradicting cases e.g. Carmel).

    The downward mobility and incipient cruddyness of the Valley is another matter. It’s starting to look like the worst places of the Inland Empire. I don’t necessarily mean in a Victor Davis Hanson “Mexifornia” sense, but you can observe a sudden prevalence — last 10 years? — of social drop-outs, bindlestiffs on tricycles, and wizened urine-soaked lunatics camped out at the primary bus stops, with their dogs, vagabonding it like some Woody Guthrie parody. Could be all that white heroin & meth abuse they’ve been discovering at the think tanks

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  125. bomag says:
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    When robot lettuce pickers start to become widespread in the US, congress will mandate the hiring of illegals. It is only fair.

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  126. bomag says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Liberals, both black & white, don’t believe blacks can do much on their own.
     
    And conservatives do?

    “Liberals, both black & white, don’t believe blacks can do much on their own.”

    And conservatives do?

    Conservatives know there is a talented end of the bell curve.

    And they don’t tell fairy tales about how good things will be after they silence their critics and fund the next gov’t program.

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    Remember the phrase "permanent Republican majority" from 2004?
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  127. narrative says:
    @SFG
    I think Niwdog's law only applies on Unz. ;)

    You can take a middle path. There have been a disproportionate number of Jews in the movements to diminish white exclusivity and power, but it doesn't mean Jews sit around thinking about how they're going to exterminate white people...there's a 70% intermarriage rate after all, and they're not all Chinese girls. From what I've seen they seem to swallow this social justice crap, and then turn around and send their kids to private school like any other white liberal. I'd actually say they assimilated pretty well...they just assimilated into the *left* half of the American elite, and gave it a huge shot in the arm in its eternal war against the South.

    Similarly, while I think fascism is a dumb idea, particularly in the USA where pretty much some form of democracy is all we've ever had, if there are going to be black and Latino identity politics and the number of white people is decreasing, you'd expect white people to form identity politics sooner or later. Given what's happened in Zimbabwe and South Africa, I wouldn't want to be in a minority either.

    As for the Putin thing, I'm not sure how much is some weird Zionist thing (how does Ukraine's secession help Israel?) and how much is greedy Americans trying to pull every country into their sphere of influence. I mean, it's an empire. They like to grow. Putin's into the same thing, only his position's not as strong right now--we've got troops at his border. It's as if Mexico were a Russian ally.

    Not to say neocons, etc., don't do bad things (for America) on behalf of Israel--look at Iraq.

    You know, I’ve always wanted to hear this explained, it’s sort of a mantra/shibboleth among your set, but with certain self-evident defects of logic: “The Iraq invasion was a favor to Israel”–how? It hastened the transformation of a 4th-world fiefdom under an ailing, basically irreligious strongman into a cat’s paw of Iran, coincidentally Israel’s most vocal (not to mention, militarily committed) enemy. It also ruined their lifeline to Turkey and eventually sunk Mubarak. Among other vibrant developments in jihad enfranchisement.

    Yet you cling to this meme about a giant surprise Channukah gift for Likud, it was finangled by somehow, thanks to Mossad frogmen… Back in reality, if Tel Aviv, Haifa and Lower East Al-Quds had a couple dozen opinionators in 2003 advocating for war, they were laughably outnumbered by like-minded machers in London, New York, Palm Beach, and Falls Church. Is it just too identitarianistically painful to admit that paid-up goys like Cheneystein, Rumsfeldowitz, and Hadassah Rice were the sous chefs on the Iraq turd sandwich? Of course, to contemporary Yelp raves from Ann Coulterberg & Moishe Limbaugh

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    Francis Fukuyama explained the psychology of the Iraq Attaq pretty well: it was Israel-admiring Washingtonians applying the style of Israeli policy but not the precise substance (Sharon, Netanyahu, etc. would have preferred America invading Iran rather than Iraq, although they didn't object to Iraq).
    , @Tex
    At the time, William Kristol asserted that the only way to bring peace to Israel was to take down Iraq. He also asserted that the war could pay for itself and that French firms shouldn't get any reconstruction contracts, since "to the victors go the spoils."

    Whenever I get sick of the stream of non-sequitur, PC, puke that streams from the media, I think fondly of the neo-cons and their sanity-free pronouncements.
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  128. jeppo says:
    @anon
    And what comparatively few killings there are in Toronto are almost entirely committed by non-whites, Jamaicans in particular.

    And what comparatively few killings there are in Toronto are almost entirely committed by non-whites, Jamaicans in particular.

    That and mafia hits.

    http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2016/01/28/man-injured-in-2012-college-street-shooting-killed-in-etobicoke.html

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    Perhaps a few mafia hits but overwhelmingly blacks, mainly Jamaicans. Google Toronto police most wanted.
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  129. bomag says:
    @Corvinus
    ‘“White guilt’ means whites better shut up about bad Jewish behavior.”

    

Pro-white propaganda means that whites not deemed whites cannot make up their own minds regarding boorish conduct.

    “So, the economy is shaken to the core. Middle East is in flames. Tensions rise with Russia over whatever-Jews-cook-up-next-to-subvert-Putin.”

    Niwdog’s Law—As an online discussion continues with multiple posters, the likelihood of a person making assertions that the Jews are behind everything in the world that is “bad” exponentially grows.

    “‘White guilt’ means whites better shut up about bad black behavior. So, blacks get more out of control and kill each other and others.”

    Pro-white propaganda means that whites not deemed whites lack the capacity to generate reasons as to what is and what is not racially factual.

    “‘White guilt’ means whites better shut up about non-white invaders. So, Europe turns crazier with all those migrants and US is becoming more divided with diversity.”



    Pro-white propaganda means that whites not deemed whites have no liberty to associate with non-whites

    Pro-race is code for anti-humanity.

    Pro-white propaganda means …

    “Propaganda” indicates that it contains a degree of falseness, but one oversells in hopes that a few things will move in his direction.

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  130. Big Bill says:
    @Pat Casey
    I know this seems obvious to ISteve Nation--let blacks behave badly and they'll behave worse-- but I've said before it's not so obvious. Consider this strictly: Do not underestimate what gang color demonstrations on cable news every night does to a gang member's psyche. It is not too much to say that is what they live for, certainly that is what makes the next ones know what they want to be, when idols are on screen just flexing, like they were on Fox News for several weeks (months?). Can perception spike reality 17%? Yes it can. This is not what black anger looks like its what black pride looks like. That's from someone who loves black people by the way. The media needs to learn to handle these circumstances more delicately, more Maturely.

    Sheriff Joe Arpaio knows colors and the macho male Mexican mind. When the prisoners in one of his lockups started complaining about something, he hit them right in their macho ‘nads and dyed all the men’s prison underwear pink.

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    Yeah they tried that with us when we first got in and didn't do it again.
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  131. Arclight says:
    @donut
    I think that there is probably a large group of AA citizens who are just as disgusted by black mob violence and general bad behavior as we are . But just like us they are either too intimidated or too busy with their lives to speak up .

    I think this is true. When I lived in a pre-gentrification black neighborhood in DC, a lot of the older long time residents would complain about the generation that came after them – the proliferation of out of wedlock pregnancies, the crime, the indifference to the concept of working or earning an honest living. These were all working class people who had raised their kids in two parent homes and made an effort to keep up their homes and the neighborhood.

    They also had low trust in the (majority black) police force, correctly noting that many of them were basically criminals themselves or related to them, and if a good citizen called the police because of a violent crime, more often than not the police would tell the perpetrator who had dropped a dime.

    The area underwent a ton of violence during the crack epidemic and then a secondary wave right before the Great Recession as large numbers of previously-incarcerated people completed their sentences and came back home. When we discussed the surge in homicides, the response of one of my neighbors was that “it was just the trash taking out the trash.”

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    . . . more often than not the police would tell the perpetrator who had dropped a dime.
     
    Gotta blame the cops. Nothing's good enough for 'em, is it, Arc. Perfect shakedown technique on Eloi.
    , @IA

    . . . more often than not the police would tell the perpetrator who had dropped a dime.
     
    When DC had a mostly white police force blacks and Eloi blamed the cops too. See, then, they were too insensitive to the delicate sensibilities of black thugs and negroes in general.

    They play you guys like Horowitz with a Stradivarius.
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  132. bomag says:
    @Ragno
    Pretty hilarious, the way Steve scratches his head, all pretend-stumped over what could possibly be causing this spike in (mostly) black-on-black murder rates?

    I've joked for years - only now I add quote marks to joked - that "we live in a world where racism is far far worse than murder", but the fact is that blacks have lived in this world, 24/7, for far longer (except that the 'racism' bit is a fairly recent addition, not that it's come close to even denting the body count).

    To blacks, murder is just a thing that happens; as sudden as a summer storm, and as unknowable as white-boy science. It is their textbook definition of 'conflict resolution', and according to the script pages we're all supposed to follow verbatim, it's up to us to adjust our (racist) reality-set to theirs. But be aware that we are dealing with scriptwriters for whom a finale of savages dancing around dead missionaries in cannibal cookpots represents poetic justice, so adjust your expectations accordingly.

    The BLM 'movement' inhibits law enforcement; this in turn inhibits civil order, and - voila! - the murder-needle sharply ascends into the red area of the inner-city graph paper. The only result more predictable are ever-shriller op-eds from hand-wringing SJWs running out of scapegoats, but something tells me they'll be falling sharply out of favor as we draw closer and closer to 2017. (I just hope that something isn't "wishful thinking".)

    but the fact is that blacks have lived in this world, 24/7, for far longer…To blacks, murder is just a thing that happens…It is their textbook definition of ‘conflict resolution’, and according to the script pages we’re all supposed to follow verbatim, it’s up to us to adjust our (racist) reality-set to theirs.

    Indeed.

    But they are moving out of their cities into ours to escape this. They are moving out of their countries into ours to escape this. They like to brag about how tough they are; about how they keep it Real; about how “snitches get stitches”; yet here they come, wanting something they can’t create or maintain themselves and expecting others to adapt.

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  133. SFG says:
    @Anonymous
    You guys need an education in white privilege and white supremacy. You people obviously don't understand the concept

    You must be new here.

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  134. SFG says:
    @donut
    I think that there is probably a large group of AA citizens who are just as disgusted by black mob violence and general bad behavior as we are . But just like us they are either too intimidated or too busy with their lives to speak up .

    It’s easier to blame your old historical enemies than your son who you’ve been trying to get to stop running around on the street with the wrong crowd for ten years now, and he looked like he had it down, but then he lost his job and had nothing else to do, and then he went off with a gang you told him not to hang around with and they shot someone, but he wasn’t the guy who pulled the trigger, just in the crowd, and the cops arrested everyone…and you remember the cute little kid who used to puke up his Similac, he wasn’t a bad guy…it was the bad company, it always is.

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    Well, it's not as if there aren't people in positions of authority (many of whom they vote for) who are skilled at deflecting blame and pretending that the reason Jamal got caught up in a felony murder (or, for that matter the victim) was because of a dearth of programs and school funding (regardless of whether relative per pupil spending is greater than or equal to better performing schools). It's an effectively unfalsifiable set of propositions - we're murderously violent when not being self destructive because of, seriatim: slavery, the pillaging of Africa, Jim Crow, systemic racism, the Confederate Battle Flag, lack of programs, Rush Limbaugh, lack of school funding, lack of public benefits, over-policing, under-policing, the GOP, the Lindbergh baby, guns, CIA trafficking crack cocaine and inventing AIDS, global warming, white flight, white proximity, and under-representation among Oscar nominees and award winners. Since working class whites have become an ever diminishing share of the Democrat coalition, expect this tradition of deflections and denial to get more bizarre and outlandish rather than less.
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  135. NOTA says:
    @oldfarmerbrown
    Let"s stop with this "Fergeson Effect"already; what is it "magic dirt?" Shouldn't it be the "Obama-Holder effect? Lets give them some legacy!

    If the authorities could generally affect the crime rate by public statements, the world would look very different. The only two interventions that plausibly look like they might have affected the crime rate in the U.S. recently are doubling the people we lock up, and massively decreasing childhood lead exposure by banning leaded gasoline and lead paint.

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  136. NOTA says:
    @Anon
    What concerns me is that states like Colorado and Oregon may see their violent crime increase. Drugs are one of the few ways the untalented, dumb, and ruthless can make a living. Pot legalization may lure blacks to these places much the same way Henry Ford's assembly line jobs drew blacks to Detroit in the 1920s. With a flood of violent blacks pouring into these states, both may end up going to utter hell.

    So it looks like legalization, which is essentially a white effect to rig the pot trade so they don't have to buy from those awful, awful, declasse blacks anymore, may backfire.

    Why would legalized pot bring a mass influx of blacks to Colorado?

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    Why would legalized pot bring a mass influx of blacks to Colorado?
     
    Legalizing khat would bring them a lot of Minnesota's blacks.
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  137. @Anon
    What concerns me is that states like Colorado and Oregon may see their violent crime increase. Drugs are one of the few ways the untalented, dumb, and ruthless can make a living. Pot legalization may lure blacks to these places much the same way Henry Ford's assembly line jobs drew blacks to Detroit in the 1920s. With a flood of violent blacks pouring into these states, both may end up going to utter hell.

    So it looks like legalization, which is essentially a white effect to rig the pot trade so they don't have to buy from those awful, awful, declasse blacks anymore, may backfire.

    Drugs are one of the few ways the untalented, dumb, and ruthless can make a living.

    This is probably true, but it might be an aspect of life in the US that business and zoning are so heavily regulated that people cannot make a living in other manners, even if they are willing to do so.

    For example, the guy I know in the Dominican Republic who has a tiny fruit stand outside a department store where he will sell you a peeled orange for a few cents, or the people with stands outside the US Embassy in Santo Domingo who will take care of your cell phone for a couple of hours while you go inside to deal with your visa application, or the guy who sold me my shoes off a little store on the back of his motor cycle, or the people I saw in Haiti the week after the earthquake who had little gasoline-powered electrical generators on the street hooked up to charge a dozen cell phones at once for a few gourdes so that homeless people could call their family members overseas to ask for help.

    In the US it is extraordinarily difficult to set up a small business of one or two people–even if there is a need–without running into all kinds of licensing and regulatory problems. Small business properties also tend to be much larger than needed, with high rents, and it is difficult to rent a few square feet for a small business. Several years ago I was told that one of those barrows in an indoor shopping mall selling belts or cell phone covers had to pay a rent of $3000 per month. Now it is no doubt more.

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    Part of the problem with sociopaths is that they don't want a normal job. Normal work bores the hell out of them. They are drawn to dangerous jobs like drug dealing and robbery because they get a psychological kick out of dancing on the edge of danger. Starting a small business like a fruit stand is meaningless, boring drudgery to them. They really would rather deal drugs. There is a reason why the life of the ghetto hood is idolized by a huge number of blacks, and why black rappers keep trying to sell that lifestyle.

    As for normal blacks, lack of opportunity to start a small business is not a barrier to their employment. They can simply get a job working for someone else.

    Most whites work for someone else too, and they don't start small businesses, and aren't even interested in doing it. Lack of starting a small business is no barrier to a middle-class livelihood for whites, and most whites live a middle-class lifestyle without it.
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  138. @BB753
    Except for long time Isteve commenter Truth, who's always busy coming up with excuses for his people. They can never do wrong.

    It’s a reflex action of sorts.

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  139. @2Mintzin1
    Mr. Bill:

    The proposed solution to the (partly self-inflicted) budget problems of the cities, including the "massive, broken infrastructure AND all the welfare cases and deadbeats that hung around" up here in upstate NY, is for the cities to consolidate their school districts with the surrounding suburbs, thus Hoovering up money from the pockets of the honkies who fled the cities.

    This has been proposed, trial-balloon fashion, in both Syracuse and Buffalo, as a good government measure to reduce duplicative government entities, etc...I doubt that it will become reality, however, until political conditions are right i.e., Democrats are firmly in power in both the cities and surrounding suburbs, and I don't see that happening soon.

    Of course, I confidently predicted that Donald Trump, as a candidate, would never be more than a piñata for the press, so consider the source.

    Mike, I know Buffalo and it’s suburbs. The city of Buffalo School District (BSD) has an annual budget just short of ONE BILLION dollars at $940 million. That number does not include another $140 million in grant money. The new Superintendent of Buffalo Schools is in Albany this week asking for $48 million to fund some new initiatives he is proposing . The City of Buffalo contributes only 7.5% of the BSD budget. We suburban honkies are doing our share for the BSD. Buffalo trails only NYC and Rochester in the entire nation for school districts with 30,000 students. They spent almost $21,000 per pupil. Suburbanites, white ,brown, yellow can’t flee any further. They will revolt.

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    "Suburbanites, white ,brown, yellow can’t flee any further. They will revolt."

    Agree that there would be a revolt, or at least an attempt...and for sure, many who can move, would. For that reason, consolidation would be costly in the long run. But what politician worries about that?

    The mere presence of lots of money in the budget does not mean that the kids are able to get a good education (those few that want one) , or that there is any end to the demands of the school district. My impression is that the BSD functions as a major patronage trough in the city, maybe THE major one. Like most special districts, it will suck up as much money as is available, sponge-like. Ten years ago, I would have said that consolidation was a pipe dream, politically impossible, for the reasons you mention.

    Now I am not so sure. Our president rules by decree, our borders are open and the press has taken on the role of Pravda, providing cover for the poor governance of the ruling parties. I'll admit that these developments have taken me by surprise, and maybe consolidation will, also.
    I hope not.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Suburbanites, white ,brown, yellow can’t flee any further. They will revolt.
     
    Buffalonians had the option of white-flighting out of the country, while still keeping their jobs. As the demographics of Toronto ooze toward the Niagara River, that option becomes moot.

    Niagara Falls, N.Y., struck me as an aging beauty in bad disrepair. Niagara Falls, Ont., is safe, clean, rich... and insufferably tacky. Las Vegas without the scum.
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  140. @Pat Boyle
    Yes its the same guy Darnell Earley a black guy with a good appearance but not much of a record of accomplishment. He didn't know much about water systems and now we'll see how much he knows about education.

    Flint is of course a failing city. It is in serious financial trouble. Early was the fourth emergency manager appointed in six years. He inherited a financial problem and also a water problem. Flint had had a corruption problem in the fifties with a new water source. A powerful local politician had tried to tried to maneuver Flint to buy Lake Huron facilities on land he had been buying up. Flint was repelled by this attempt and just bought their water from Detroit.

    But of course Detroit had its own problems. Approximately half of Detroit's remaining population doesn't pay its water bill. They have been cutting off service to users in an attempt to become solvent once again. Detroit it seemed no longer valued the Flint business.

    Flint made a deal with a new Huron water company in Genesee county. Detroit water learned of this and raised Flint's rates. But Flint couldn't use the new Huron water source for two years. So Early was confronted with two years of high rates - rates he did not want to pay.

    The Emergency Manager overrides the local elected officials. The local officials approved of Earley's plan to use water from the Flint River but it was his decision alone. There are pictures on the Web of the council happily celebrating the decision while raising glasses of the poisonous Flint River water.

    The area of the water uptake is a former Buick facility. It is polluted. But that's not the problem. The residents like to get their pictures taken holding a bottle of rusty brown water. That's not the problem either. The rust and dirt in the water is generally harmless but the lead is deadly. lead is colorless and odorless in water.

    The problem is that Flint has lead feeder pipes from the water mains. Here in Oakland California there are no lead feeder pipes. They all were taken out years ago but in the East many big and small cities still have lead pipes in their water distribution systems. Many of these cities now have big expensive projects under weigh to dig them all up. In one city this is a half billion dollar project.

    Most of the time a city can tolerate lead pipes because an impervious lead oxide film forms on the inside of the pipes. This is why Rome could use lead pipes for centuries without bad effects. Their lead problem came from other areas - cooking vessels and wine.

    Rome had alkali water but the Flint River is acidic. It quickly dissolved the protective lead coating in the Flint water system feeder pipes. One authority writes that the permissible level of lead is 10 parts per billion. Another says eleven. The federal government use fifteen as a limit. There have been some measurements from the Flint water system of over three thousand ppb. Bad water.

    Darnell Earley was trying to save some money.

    There are no lead feeder pipes in the EBMUD (East Bay Municipal Utilities District) but there may be lead pipes in my house. I had a new water heater installed last year it probably was soldered with the new no-lead solder. Apparently even brass faucets are made with a small amount of lead. But all these minor lead sources are under attack. In the near future nothing will be allowed to contain lead that might come in contact with human water consumption. Domestic lead will go the way of asbestos.

    How is it that I know all this? I know this much and quite a bit more because I spent a couple hours this morning reading Wikipedia and some news articles. So I wonder why Earley who was made the head of a water department didn't know any of it?

    Pat, There was an old saying that Flint is where the people from Gary go for vacation.

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  141. @Corvinus
    ‘“White guilt’ means whites better shut up about bad Jewish behavior.”

    

Pro-white propaganda means that whites not deemed whites cannot make up their own minds regarding boorish conduct.

    “So, the economy is shaken to the core. Middle East is in flames. Tensions rise with Russia over whatever-Jews-cook-up-next-to-subvert-Putin.”

    Niwdog’s Law—As an online discussion continues with multiple posters, the likelihood of a person making assertions that the Jews are behind everything in the world that is “bad” exponentially grows.

    “‘White guilt’ means whites better shut up about bad black behavior. So, blacks get more out of control and kill each other and others.”

    Pro-white propaganda means that whites not deemed whites lack the capacity to generate reasons as to what is and what is not racially factual.

    “‘White guilt’ means whites better shut up about non-white invaders. So, Europe turns crazier with all those migrants and US is becoming more divided with diversity.”



    Pro-white propaganda means that whites not deemed whites have no liberty to associate with non-whites

    Pro-race is code for anti-humanity.

    As an online discussion continues with multiple posters, the likelihood of a person making assertions that the Jews are behind everything in the world that is “bad” exponentially grows.

    As an online discussion continues with multiple posters, the likelihood of everything grows. Everything but coherence, that is.

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    "As an online discussion continues with multiple posters, the likelihood of everything grows. Everything but coherence, that is."

    Wow, we actually agree on something--those who focus that Joos cause every single problem are incoherent.
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  142. @NOTA
    Why would legalized pot bring a mass influx of blacks to Colorado?

    Why would legalized pot bring a mass influx of blacks to Colorado?

    Legalizing khat would bring them a lot of Minnesota’s blacks.

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  143. @Philly booster
    Suburban raised gentrifier here, now a Philly resident.

    It is true that there's been a change in crime over the past year. I don't walk by myself after dark anymore. It's not bad enough that I would move, though, and I haven't heard of anyone else moving for that reason.

    I do know people who've moved to the suburbs for the schools. My kids have been very happy with their schools, but it is a tremendous pain in the neck to navigate the system for K-4, and then admission to the good middle and high schools require top standardized test scores. Plenty of people get sick of the hassle and go. But no one is leaving because of safety.

    “But no one is leaving because of safety.”

    Murders increased 12 percent over 2014 and nonfatal shootings 18 percent over 2014. I doubt that those numbers are anomalies given the similar increases in other urban areas. Some “nonfatal shootings” are no doubt injuries which would be murders in years past but for heroic life saving treatments and technologies perfected on the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Understand that in the bad old days, murders were about double of what they are now, with a larger population. If shootings and murders continue to rise year over year according to the 2015 trend you’re looking at a fairly rapid wave of crime which will not take long to return to 70s/80s/early 90s rates. So what will happen is that limited police resources will be diverted to solving murders and shootings and assaults, rapes, home invasions, muggings and sundry property crimes will increase. Law enforcement on the triage system. Philadelphia is now majority black and the political apparatus is near entirely beholden to blacks. The chances that you’ll see a reformer cum law and order type in the mold of Rendell regain the Mayoralty any time soon is remote at best. The path to City Hall lies in denying the criminality of blacks while using the crime rate as a pretext to demand more programs and funding from Uncle Sam and the Commonwealth. All of the bad old excuses and deflections for urban crime never really went away.

    It’s just a bit silly and naive to say after the first year of a this trend “I’m not concerned.”

    When you wake up one morning and realize that your freedom is self-restrained and your mental repose is constantly invaded by the ever present specter of crime you’ll likely change your mind. That, or downwardly spiraling property values attendant to crime.

    Once again, I’m saying this as a kid who grew up in Philadelphia and saw this happen before. I still have family members, friends, and associates who are Philadelphia Police Officers – if you only knew what they’re saying it’d curl your hair.

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    Tell us some stories.
    , @Philly booster
    I'm not denying that a change has taken place. As I said, my freedom is already "self-restrained" in that I've realized I can't go out after dark anymore.

    I'm just reporting that no one is moving on this account yet, nor are property values falling.

    I'm not convinced they will either. I hear forced bussing was a big cause of white flight the first time around, so as long as the schools are left alone this time I don't see a big stampede for the exits.
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  144. @anon
    Canada ain't got that.

    Something the federal liberal party has been desperate to change since 1967.

    Anon, I read your response quickly and thought you wrote “feral liberal party”….same difference.

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  145. @unit472
    Hurricane Katrina was a picture perfect Category 5 hurricane the day before landfall with winds of 175 mph. It was due south of New Orleans. Only a small 'wobble' to the east prevented this storm from coming in right on top of New Orleans. Everyone who checked the National Hurricane Center updates knew this storm was off the charts dangerous and New Orleans was in great peril.

    I recall watching as Mayor Nagin began sending people to the Louisiana Super Dome and wondered what in the hell he was thinking. As it happened the roof began to fail on that structure despite the most intense winds being miles to the east in Gulfport. Had Katrina come over New Orleans its 29 foot storm surge and Category three winds would have obliterated that city and left thousands dead in the 'emergency shelters'.

    This is all true, and I recall cable news at the time interviewing people saying, in effect, “aren’t you concerned about this massive Hurricane just offshore” and the response being “laissez le bon ton roulet.” I mean quite literally those words were spoken in response.

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    The anglicized French remaining in New Orleans is rather informal to say the least. Unfortunately Section Head Leamas has not even met that standard. It's laissez les bon temps rouler, a back-formation of "let the good times roll".
    , @CJ
    And if performance doesn't improve the Circus will transfer you to Philadelphia.
    , @Palerider1861
    N'Awlins is not known as the Big Easy for nothing, ya know.
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  146. Continuing on my theme of employment opportunities for blacks…

    In the city of Jacksonville where I spend some of my time, the whole of the northern part of the suburbs is the black “ghetto”. In this area there are miles and miles and miles of low rise housing, and very few businesses. In the day time traffic is usually light and there is no activity on the streets other than perhaps children returning from school in the afternoon. Once I saw a crowd of pedestrians assembling in the late morning, but on closer inspection the event in question was a free lunch distributed in the parking lot of a church.

    Yet when I am in Haiti, the residential areas are always abuzz with people on foot (so it is not just the climate) and everyone has a hustle, something to sell, the street markets are crowded with people selling produce, clothing, shoes, toys, fast food, shampoo, beauty products, and everyone can shop within walking distance of their home for essentials like drinking water, eggs, and cans of milk.

    It strikes me that in the US all of these areas of merchandising have been taken over by corporations.

    We live in a society designed for nongregarious white people who want to commute to an air-conditioned office, drive home in an air-conditioned car, stop on the way home to buy supper in an air-conditioned supermarket or fast food outlet, and return to their air-conditioned homes in silent streets to watch a basketball game with black players played in an air-conditioned arena and broadcast on TV. (Put centrally-heated for air-conditioned if appropriate for your season and location.)

    This model of society and the good life was not designed for black people or by black people. Many integrate into it perfectly well, but a significant minority don’t, never will and continue to exist in these soulless reservations where it is easy for young testosterone-fuelled men to drift into a life of crime due to boredom if nothing else–unless they are really, really good at basketball.

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    What you say is interesting but I can't help but wonder if the true reason blacks in Haiti are hustling hard to make a buck and blacks in Jacksonville (and presumably elsewhere in the USA) are slackers is due to the fact that blacks here are provided with welfare by a (largely) white tax-paying public and in Haiti its pretty much everybody for themselves.
    , @Ed
    The lack of businesses on the northside of Jacksonville or most black neighborhoods in the USA has little to do with being black per se. You just mentioned Haiti has vibrant markets and street traffic and Haiti is very black.

    The lack of businesses in blacks areas in the USA has to do with low social trust among them that results in increased security and operational costs. Low margin businesses like grocery stores and retail shops can't survive when half the merchandise walks out the doors. Also I think US blacks have a homicide rate than Haiti which is something since the average US blacks makes more than 10X the average Haitian.
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  147. @SFG
    It's easier to blame your old historical enemies than your son who you've been trying to get to stop running around on the street with the wrong crowd for ten years now, and he looked like he had it down, but then he lost his job and had nothing else to do, and then he went off with a gang you told him not to hang around with and they shot someone, but he wasn't the guy who pulled the trigger, just in the crowd, and the cops arrested everyone...and you remember the cute little kid who used to puke up his Similac, he wasn't a bad guy...it was the bad company, it always is.

    Well, it’s not as if there aren’t people in positions of authority (many of whom they vote for) who are skilled at deflecting blame and pretending that the reason Jamal got caught up in a felony murder (or, for that matter the victim) was because of a dearth of programs and school funding (regardless of whether relative per pupil spending is greater than or equal to better performing schools). It’s an effectively unfalsifiable set of propositions – we’re murderously violent when not being self destructive because of, seriatim: slavery, the pillaging of Africa, Jim Crow, systemic racism, the Confederate Battle Flag, lack of programs, Rush Limbaugh, lack of school funding, lack of public benefits, over-policing, under-policing, the GOP, the Lindbergh baby, guns, CIA trafficking crack cocaine and inventing AIDS, global warming, white flight, white proximity, and under-representation among Oscar nominees and award winners. Since working class whites have become an ever diminishing share of the Democrat coalition, expect this tradition of deflections and denial to get more bizarre and outlandish rather than less.

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  148. Murders In Denver In 2015

    In 2015, there were 50 homicides not committed by police (police killed 7 people) in Denver, 28 black, 12 Latino and 10 white. As of 2014, Denver was 53.4% non-Hispanic white, 10.4% black, and 30.8% Hispanic (the remainder consists of Asians, Pacific Islanders, Alaska Natives, Native Americans and mixed race individuals who are non-Hispanic).

    The murder rate per 100,000 people by race in Denver in 2015 was as follows:

    * Non-Hispanic White 2.82
    * Latino 5.87
    * Black 41.35

    http://washparkprophet.blogspot.com/2016/01/denver-murders-in-2015-by-race-and.html

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  149. @Anonymous
    You guys need an education in white privilege and white supremacy. You people obviously don't understand the concept

    You guys need an education in white privilege and white supremacy. You people obviously don’t understand the concept

    Portland’s “growth boundary”, Seattle’s minimum wage, and San Francisco’s rents all reek of white privilege.

    A white judge imposing “same-sex marriage” on black South Africa sounds pretty white supremacist to me.

    And how does Bernie Sanders segregate his rallies so well?

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  150. Black thugs need to understand that their use of Glock pistols in the commission of their crimes is an appropriation of White culture & thus strictly verboten. Spears only, if you please.

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  151. jtgw says: • Website

    OT, but this story confirms your claims that the nationalist resistance in Europe may be led by football fan groups:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-30/200-swedes-storm-occupied-stockholm-train-station-beat-migrant-children

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    VoxDay also posted a blog post on the subject. http://voxday.blogspot.ca/2016/01/enough-now.html

    OT, meanwhile in Germany... http://voxday.blogspot.ca/2016/01/a-murder-in-germany.html
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  152. Arithmetic for Dummies: Black Americans minus appropriations of White culture equals Black Africans.

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    Not really. African Americans benefit from a healthy dose of white genes. IQ tests that compare American blacks to African ones bear this out.
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  153. OT: Jackie Coakley ordered to turn over her communications with Sabrina Rubin Erdely: http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/26030/

    Pass the popcorn.

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  154. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Jason Bayz
    Why? The price is pretty low in both those states, meaning that the demand is being met. There are more than enough White people in those states who have the skill set to legally produce and sell marijuana.

    Yes, whites can produce and sell marijuana. But it’s always possible for blacks to muscle their way into the operation in the old-fashioned way. A gun in the face, terrorizing, threats, and killing if the white producers don’t cooperate. It’s how all crime syndicates work. All it takes is a little ruthlessness and sociopathy, traits blacks have in abundance.

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    The example of 'pills mills' and Colorado's experience with legal marijuana sales would seem to indicate that criminal activity cannot thrive where people can purchase drugs legally. In fact, besides the criminal justice industry's vested interest in keeping recreational drugs illegal, the other problem is just what would the black underclass do for their 'walking around money' if they couldn't sell drugs?

    It is becoming increasingly difficult to commit and get away with other forms of street crime as surveillance and anti-theft systems become pervasive. Take away drug dealing and you'd pauperize millions of young negro men.
    , @NOTA
    That's a lot harder to do in a legitimate business where the victims can call the cops and expect help rather than arrest.
    , @anon
    Yes but what you have to realize is that in a legitimate business victims can go to the police for protection. In an illegal enterprise the victims have no recourse.
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  155. Hrw-500 says:
    @jtgw
    OT, but this story confirms your claims that the nationalist resistance in Europe may be led by football fan groups:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-30/200-swedes-storm-occupied-stockholm-train-station-beat-migrant-children

    VoxDay also posted a blog post on the subject. http://voxday.blogspot.ca/2016/01/enough-now.html

    OT, meanwhile in Germany… http://voxday.blogspot.ca/2016/01/a-murder-in-germany.html

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  156. Svigor says:

    As an online discussion continues with multiple posters, the likelihood of a person making assertions that the Jews are behind everything in the world that is “bad” exponentially grows.

    As an online discussion continues with multiple posters, the likelihood of everything grows. Everything but coherence, that is.

    I wonder how long the thread would have to be to actually see someone assert that the Jews are behind everything bad in the world. I’ve yet to see it happen.

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  157. @narrative
    You know, I've always wanted to hear this explained, it's sort of a mantra/shibboleth among your set, but with certain self-evident defects of logic: "The Iraq invasion was a favor to Israel"--how? It hastened the transformation of a 4th-world fiefdom under an ailing, basically irreligious strongman into a cat's paw of Iran, coincidentally Israel's most vocal (not to mention, militarily committed) enemy. It also ruined their lifeline to Turkey and eventually sunk Mubarak. Among other vibrant developments in jihad enfranchisement.

    Yet you cling to this meme about a giant surprise Channukah gift for Likud, it was finangled by somehow, thanks to Mossad frogmen... Back in reality, if Tel Aviv, Haifa and Lower East Al-Quds had a couple dozen opinionators in 2003 advocating for war, they were laughably outnumbered by like-minded machers in London, New York, Palm Beach, and Falls Church. Is it just too identitarianistically painful to admit that paid-up goys like Cheneystein, Rumsfeldowitz, and Hadassah Rice were the sous chefs on the Iraq turd sandwich? Of course, to contemporary Yelp raves from Ann Coulterberg & Moishe Limbaugh

    Francis Fukuyama explained the psychology of the Iraq Attaq pretty well: it was Israel-admiring Washingtonians applying the style of Israeli policy but not the precise substance (Sharon, Netanyahu, etc. would have preferred America invading Iran rather than Iraq, although they didn’t object to Iraq).

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    If Washington really admired Israel's policies and wanted to follow its example, it would close the borders, repeal the 1965 Immigration Act and take no interest in any foreign events beyond Canada or Mexico.
    , @Former Darfur
    Had we attacked Iran, we would at least have learned a powerful lesson by now.
    , @black sea
    AIPAC lobbied for the invasion of Iraq. Obviously AIPAC and the Israeli government are not synonymous, but US politicians do have to pay considerable attention to the do's and don't's of AIPAC.

    I remember around the time of the invasion reading a comment made by an Israeli military officer to the effect that "we may come to miss Saddam Hussein." I think there was a consensus that this would be de-stabilizing as hell (only Bush and Co. that were too stupid to grasp this) with opinions more mixed as to whether or not this would work out to Israel's advantage in the long run.
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  158. Rob McX says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Francis Fukuyama explained the psychology of the Iraq Attaq pretty well: it was Israel-admiring Washingtonians applying the style of Israeli policy but not the precise substance (Sharon, Netanyahu, etc. would have preferred America invading Iran rather than Iraq, although they didn't object to Iraq).

    If Washington really admired Israel’s policies and wanted to follow its example, it would close the borders, repeal the 1965 Immigration Act and take no interest in any foreign events beyond Canada or Mexico.

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  159. @Alec Leamas
    "But no one is leaving because of safety."

    Murders increased 12 percent over 2014 and nonfatal shootings 18 percent over 2014. I doubt that those numbers are anomalies given the similar increases in other urban areas. Some "nonfatal shootings" are no doubt injuries which would be murders in years past but for heroic life saving treatments and technologies perfected on the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Understand that in the bad old days, murders were about double of what they are now, with a larger population. If shootings and murders continue to rise year over year according to the 2015 trend you're looking at a fairly rapid wave of crime which will not take long to return to 70s/80s/early 90s rates. So what will happen is that limited police resources will be diverted to solving murders and shootings and assaults, rapes, home invasions, muggings and sundry property crimes will increase. Law enforcement on the triage system. Philadelphia is now majority black and the political apparatus is near entirely beholden to blacks. The chances that you'll see a reformer cum law and order type in the mold of Rendell regain the Mayoralty any time soon is remote at best. The path to City Hall lies in denying the criminality of blacks while using the crime rate as a pretext to demand more programs and funding from Uncle Sam and the Commonwealth. All of the bad old excuses and deflections for urban crime never really went away.

    It's just a bit silly and naive to say after the first year of a this trend "I'm not concerned."

    When you wake up one morning and realize that your freedom is self-restrained and your mental repose is constantly invaded by the ever present specter of crime you'll likely change your mind. That, or downwardly spiraling property values attendant to crime.

    Once again, I'm saying this as a kid who grew up in Philadelphia and saw this happen before. I still have family members, friends, and associates who are Philadelphia Police Officers - if you only knew what they're saying it'd curl your hair.

    Tell us some stories.

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  160. unit472 says:
    @Anon
    Yes, whites can produce and sell marijuana. But it's always possible for blacks to muscle their way into the operation in the old-fashioned way. A gun in the face, terrorizing, threats, and killing if the white producers don't cooperate. It's how all crime syndicates work. All it takes is a little ruthlessness and sociopathy, traits blacks have in abundance.

    The example of ‘pills mills’ and Colorado’s experience with legal marijuana sales would seem to indicate that criminal activity cannot thrive where people can purchase drugs legally. In fact, besides the criminal justice industry’s vested interest in keeping recreational drugs illegal, the other problem is just what would the black underclass do for their ‘walking around money’ if they couldn’t sell drugs?

    It is becoming increasingly difficult to commit and get away with other forms of street crime as surveillance and anti-theft systems become pervasive. Take away drug dealing and you’d pauperize millions of young negro men.

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    What would the black underclass do for their ‘walking around money’ if they couldn’t sell drugs?

    They'd commit robbery instead.

    Despite the fact that drug dealing is illegal in most places and highly dangerous, with the threat of cops, courts, the law, long prison sentences, and thuggish rivals, it doesn't even slow them down.

    You people need to stop looking at economics for a moment and start looking at temperament.
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  161. Anon says: • Disclaimer
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    Drugs are one of the few ways the untalented, dumb, and ruthless can make a living.
     
    This is probably true, but it might be an aspect of life in the US that business and zoning are so heavily regulated that people cannot make a living in other manners, even if they are willing to do so.

    For example, the guy I know in the Dominican Republic who has a tiny fruit stand outside a department store where he will sell you a peeled orange for a few cents, or the people with stands outside the US Embassy in Santo Domingo who will take care of your cell phone for a couple of hours while you go inside to deal with your visa application, or the guy who sold me my shoes off a little store on the back of his motor cycle, or the people I saw in Haiti the week after the earthquake who had little gasoline-powered electrical generators on the street hooked up to charge a dozen cell phones at once for a few gourdes so that homeless people could call their family members overseas to ask for help.

    In the US it is extraordinarily difficult to set up a small business of one or two people--even if there is a need--without running into all kinds of licensing and regulatory problems. Small business properties also tend to be much larger than needed, with high rents, and it is difficult to rent a few square feet for a small business. Several years ago I was told that one of those barrows in an indoor shopping mall selling belts or cell phone covers had to pay a rent of $3000 per month. Now it is no doubt more.

    Part of the problem with sociopaths is that they don’t want a normal job. Normal work bores the hell out of them. They are drawn to dangerous jobs like drug dealing and robbery because they get a psychological kick out of dancing on the edge of danger. Starting a small business like a fruit stand is meaningless, boring drudgery to them. They really would rather deal drugs. There is a reason why the life of the ghetto hood is idolized by a huge number of blacks, and why black rappers keep trying to sell that lifestyle.

    As for normal blacks, lack of opportunity to start a small business is not a barrier to their employment. They can simply get a job working for someone else.

    Most whites work for someone else too, and they don’t start small businesses, and aren’t even interested in doing it. Lack of starting a small business is no barrier to a middle-class livelihood for whites, and most whites live a middle-class lifestyle without it.

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    Most sociopaths are not criminals in the normal sense of the word. The smarter ones go into the professions, entertainment, or corporate life where being a sociopath gives them "the unfair advantage", as Mark Donohue the racer used to say. Education, the clergy, and of course government are loaded with them too.

    But you will find them, certainly, in small business. A smart sociopath can start a business with leverage decent and moral people won't think of. They will figure out ways to screw customers and the system and get satisfaction that way.

    For honest and decent people, small business is a crummy way to make a living more often than not. Employment with a company with billions in assets and hundreds or thousands of employees is a pretty good deal for most of us.
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  162. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @unit472
    The example of 'pills mills' and Colorado's experience with legal marijuana sales would seem to indicate that criminal activity cannot thrive where people can purchase drugs legally. In fact, besides the criminal justice industry's vested interest in keeping recreational drugs illegal, the other problem is just what would the black underclass do for their 'walking around money' if they couldn't sell drugs?

    It is becoming increasingly difficult to commit and get away with other forms of street crime as surveillance and anti-theft systems become pervasive. Take away drug dealing and you'd pauperize millions of young negro men.

    What would the black underclass do for their ‘walking around money’ if they couldn’t sell drugs?

    They’d commit robbery instead.

    Despite the fact that drug dealing is illegal in most places and highly dangerous, with the threat of cops, courts, the law, long prison sentences, and thuggish rivals, it doesn’t even slow them down.

    You people need to stop looking at economics for a moment and start looking at temperament.

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  163. @Anon
    Part of the problem with sociopaths is that they don't want a normal job. Normal work bores the hell out of them. They are drawn to dangerous jobs like drug dealing and robbery because they get a psychological kick out of dancing on the edge of danger. Starting a small business like a fruit stand is meaningless, boring drudgery to them. They really would rather deal drugs. There is a reason why the life of the ghetto hood is idolized by a huge number of blacks, and why black rappers keep trying to sell that lifestyle.

    As for normal blacks, lack of opportunity to start a small business is not a barrier to their employment. They can simply get a job working for someone else.

    Most whites work for someone else too, and they don't start small businesses, and aren't even interested in doing it. Lack of starting a small business is no barrier to a middle-class livelihood for whites, and most whites live a middle-class lifestyle without it.

    Most sociopaths are not criminals in the normal sense of the word. The smarter ones go into the professions, entertainment, or corporate life where being a sociopath gives them “the unfair advantage”, as Mark Donohue the racer used to say. Education, the clergy, and of course government are loaded with them too.

    But you will find them, certainly, in small business. A smart sociopath can start a business with leverage decent and moral people won’t think of. They will figure out ways to screw customers and the system and get satisfaction that way.

    For honest and decent people, small business is a crummy way to make a living more often than not. Employment with a company with billions in assets and hundreds or thousands of employees is a pretty good deal for most of us.

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    Education, the clergy, and of course government are loaded with them too.
     
    We get more of the sociobaths.
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  164. @Steve Sailer
    Francis Fukuyama explained the psychology of the Iraq Attaq pretty well: it was Israel-admiring Washingtonians applying the style of Israeli policy but not the precise substance (Sharon, Netanyahu, etc. would have preferred America invading Iran rather than Iraq, although they didn't object to Iraq).

    Had we attacked Iran, we would at least have learned a powerful lesson by now.

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  165. 2Mintzin1 [AKA "Mike"] says:
    @Buffalo Joe
    Mike, I know Buffalo and it's suburbs. The city of Buffalo School District (BSD) has an annual budget just short of ONE BILLION dollars at $940 million. That number does not include another $140 million in grant money. The new Superintendent of Buffalo Schools is in Albany this week asking for $48 million to fund some new initiatives he is proposing . The City of Buffalo contributes only 7.5% of the BSD budget. We suburban honkies are doing our share for the BSD. Buffalo trails only NYC and Rochester in the entire nation for school districts with 30,000 students. They spent almost $21,000 per pupil. Suburbanites, white ,brown, yellow can't flee any further. They will revolt.

    “Suburbanites, white ,brown, yellow can’t flee any further. They will revolt.”

    Agree that there would be a revolt, or at least an attempt…and for sure, many who can move, would. For that reason, consolidation would be costly in the long run. But what politician worries about that?

    The mere presence of lots of money in the budget does not mean that the kids are able to get a good education (those few that want one) , or that there is any end to the demands of the school district. My impression is that the BSD functions as a major patronage trough in the city, maybe THE major one. Like most special districts, it will suck up as much money as is available, sponge-like. Ten years ago, I would have said that consolidation was a pipe dream, politically impossible, for the reasons you mention.

    Now I am not so sure. Our president rules by decree, our borders are open and the press has taken on the role of Pravda, providing cover for the poor governance of the ruling parties. I’ll admit that these developments have taken me by surprise, and maybe consolidation will, also.
    I hope not.

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  166. NOTA says:
    @bomag
    "Liberals, both black & white, don’t believe blacks can do much on their own."

    And conservatives do?

    Conservatives know there is a talented end of the bell curve.

    And they don't tell fairy tales about how good things will be after they silence their critics and fund the next gov't program.

    Remember the phrase “permanent Republican majority” from 2004?

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  167. NOTA says:
    @Anon
    Yes, whites can produce and sell marijuana. But it's always possible for blacks to muscle their way into the operation in the old-fashioned way. A gun in the face, terrorizing, threats, and killing if the white producers don't cooperate. It's how all crime syndicates work. All it takes is a little ruthlessness and sociopathy, traits blacks have in abundance.

    That’s a lot harder to do in a legitimate business where the victims can call the cops and expect help rather than arrest.

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  168. Camlost says:

    Yes, whites can produce and sell marijuana. But it’s always possible for blacks to muscle their way into the operation in the old-fashioned way. A gun in the face, terrorizing, threats, and killing if the white producers don’t cooperate. It’s how all crime syndicates work. All it takes is a little ruthlessness and sociopathy, traits blacks have in abundance.

    No way, you are out of your mind. What you’ve described is organized crime. There’s nothing organized about anything that blacks do, they’re not mobsters and sophisticated crime bosses out there shaking down the traffickers and importers – they’re just the end-level street dealers who don’t make much money.

    Most black drug dealers can’t even afford their own car or own place. They live with their old lady, mom or sister.

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  169. black sea says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Francis Fukuyama explained the psychology of the Iraq Attaq pretty well: it was Israel-admiring Washingtonians applying the style of Israeli policy but not the precise substance (Sharon, Netanyahu, etc. would have preferred America invading Iran rather than Iraq, although they didn't object to Iraq).

    AIPAC lobbied for the invasion of Iraq. Obviously AIPAC and the Israeli government are not synonymous, but US politicians do have to pay considerable attention to the do’s and don’t’s of AIPAC.

    I remember around the time of the invasion reading a comment made by an Israeli military officer to the effect that “we may come to miss Saddam Hussein.” I think there was a consensus that this would be de-stabilizing as hell (only Bush and Co. that were too stupid to grasp this) with opinions more mixed as to whether or not this would work out to Israel’s advantage in the long run.

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  170. Chip Smith says: • Website

    Can we rule out the possibility that looting of pharmacies introduced new supply of controlled substances into illicit markets, with an uptick in violence following for the usual turf-related reasons? That would account for the relative localism of a “Ferguson effect,” but I have no idea if there’s evidence either way.

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    Drug markets and homicide often go together. The looting of pharmacies may well have played a role. Or maybe there is something else going on involving drugs that is spreading intermittently across the country.

    If you look at national homicide graphs going back to 1976, there were two peaks: one in 1980 that was almost certainly powder cocaine driven and a longer-lived one in the early 1990s that was crack cocaine.
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  171. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @jeppo
    And what comparatively few killings there are in Toronto are almost entirely committed by non-whites, Jamaicans in particular.

    That and mafia hits.

    http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2016/01/28/man-injured-in-2012-college-street-shooting-killed-in-etobicoke.html

    Perhaps a few mafia hits but overwhelmingly blacks, mainly Jamaicans. Google Toronto police most wanted.

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  172. CJ says:
    @Alec Leamas
    This is all true, and I recall cable news at the time interviewing people saying, in effect, "aren't you concerned about this massive Hurricane just offshore" and the response being "laissez le bon ton roulet." I mean quite literally those words were spoken in response.

    The anglicized French remaining in New Orleans is rather informal to say the least. Unfortunately Section Head Leamas has not even met that standard. It’s laissez les bon temps rouler, a back-formation of “let the good times roll”.

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  173. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Jonathan Mason
    Continuing on my theme of employment opportunities for blacks...

    In the city of Jacksonville where I spend some of my time, the whole of the northern part of the suburbs is the black "ghetto". In this area there are miles and miles and miles of low rise housing, and very few businesses. In the day time traffic is usually light and there is no activity on the streets other than perhaps children returning from school in the afternoon. Once I saw a crowd of pedestrians assembling in the late morning, but on closer inspection the event in question was a free lunch distributed in the parking lot of a church.

    Yet when I am in Haiti, the residential areas are always abuzz with people on foot (so it is not just the climate) and everyone has a hustle, something to sell, the street markets are crowded with people selling produce, clothing, shoes, toys, fast food, shampoo, beauty products, and everyone can shop within walking distance of their home for essentials like drinking water, eggs, and cans of milk.

    It strikes me that in the US all of these areas of merchandising have been taken over by corporations.

    We live in a society designed for nongregarious white people who want to commute to an air-conditioned office, drive home in an air-conditioned car, stop on the way home to buy supper in an air-conditioned supermarket or fast food outlet, and return to their air-conditioned homes in silent streets to watch a basketball game with black players played in an air-conditioned arena and broadcast on TV. (Put centrally-heated for air-conditioned if appropriate for your season and location.)

    This model of society and the good life was not designed for black people or by black people. Many integrate into it perfectly well, but a significant minority don't, never will and continue to exist in these soulless reservations where it is easy for young testosterone-fuelled men to drift into a life of crime due to boredom if nothing else--unless they are really, really good at basketball.

    What you say is interesting but I can’t help but wonder if the true reason blacks in Haiti are hustling hard to make a buck and blacks in Jacksonville (and presumably elsewhere in the USA) are slackers is due to the fact that blacks here are provided with welfare by a (largely) white tax-paying public and in Haiti its pretty much everybody for themselves.

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  174. CJ says:
    @Alec Leamas
    This is all true, and I recall cable news at the time interviewing people saying, in effect, "aren't you concerned about this massive Hurricane just offshore" and the response being "laissez le bon ton roulet." I mean quite literally those words were spoken in response.

    And if performance doesn’t improve the Circus will transfer you to Philadelphia.

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  175. Svigor says:

    You know, I’ve always wanted to hear this explained, it’s sort of a mantra/shibboleth among your set, but with certain self-evident defects of logic: “The Iraq invasion was a favor to Israel”–how? It hastened the transformation of a 4th-world fiefdom under an ailing, basically irreligious strongman into a cat’s paw of Iran, coincidentally Israel’s most vocal (not to mention, militarily committed) enemy. It also ruined their lifeline to Turkey and eventually sunk Mubarak. Among other vibrant developments in jihad enfranchisement.

    Yet you cling to this meme about a giant surprise Channukah gift for Likud, it was finangled by somehow, thanks to Mossad frogmen… Back in reality, if Tel Aviv, Haifa and Lower East Al-Quds had a couple dozen opinionators in 2003 advocating for war, they were laughably outnumbered by like-minded machers in London, New York, Palm Beach, and Falls Church. Is it just too identitarianistically painful to admit that paid-up goys like Cheneystein, Rumsfeldowitz, and Hadassah Rice were the sous chefs on the Iraq turd sandwich? Of course, to contemporary Yelp raves from Ann Coulterberg & Moishe Limbaugh

    Yes, the US military flattening every state in SWANA except Israel – how could Israel possibly benefit? It’s a real mystery wrapped inside an enigma.

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  176. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Anon
    Yes, whites can produce and sell marijuana. But it's always possible for blacks to muscle their way into the operation in the old-fashioned way. A gun in the face, terrorizing, threats, and killing if the white producers don't cooperate. It's how all crime syndicates work. All it takes is a little ruthlessness and sociopathy, traits blacks have in abundance.

    Yes but what you have to realize is that in a legitimate business victims can go to the police for protection. In an illegal enterprise the victims have no recourse.

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  177. Jacobite says: • Website
    @Jonathan Silber
    Arithmetic for Dummies: Black Americans minus appropriations of White culture equals Black Africans.

    Not really. African Americans benefit from a healthy dose of white genes. IQ tests that compare American blacks to African ones bear this out.

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  178. It all comes down to the word “lead/led”…

    They live in mostly (100%?) Democratic Party “led” cities and nearly always die of “lead” poisoning, sometimes from their cheap water source, but mostly from a firearm.

    What’s the question?

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  179. @Steve Sailer
    But most of the black inner city neighborhoods with surging homicide rates are within the various city limits, so statistics focused on cities are useful for this issue.

    They have been historically Steve but at least back East the gentrification has pushed some out into formerly lower class white boroughs and such.

    Also, relative to Philadelphia at least, neighboring and adjacent cities like Camden and Chester are really not distinct from the city itself regardless of political borders, and you could make the argument that nearby Wilmington, DE isn’t really altogether distinct either. When the Hipster types gobble up more and more formerly low cost and Section 8 houses, the former resident population has to wind up somewhere. I’d imagine that a similar phenomenon is happening in, for example New York City and Newark, East Orange, Paterson etc. in New Jersey – technically outside of the formal borders of a city and the state within which it is situate, but the populations themselves don’t respect the border and nor do the trends.

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  180. Pat Casey says:
    @Big Bill
    Sheriff Joe Arpaio knows colors and the macho male Mexican mind. When the prisoners in one of his lockups started complaining about something, he hit them right in their macho 'nads and dyed all the men's prison underwear pink.

    Yeah they tried that with us when we first got in and didn’t do it again.

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  181. Ed says:
    @Jonathan Mason
    Continuing on my theme of employment opportunities for blacks...

    In the city of Jacksonville where I spend some of my time, the whole of the northern part of the suburbs is the black "ghetto". In this area there are miles and miles and miles of low rise housing, and very few businesses. In the day time traffic is usually light and there is no activity on the streets other than perhaps children returning from school in the afternoon. Once I saw a crowd of pedestrians assembling in the late morning, but on closer inspection the event in question was a free lunch distributed in the parking lot of a church.

    Yet when I am in Haiti, the residential areas are always abuzz with people on foot (so it is not just the climate) and everyone has a hustle, something to sell, the street markets are crowded with people selling produce, clothing, shoes, toys, fast food, shampoo, beauty products, and everyone can shop within walking distance of their home for essentials like drinking water, eggs, and cans of milk.

    It strikes me that in the US all of these areas of merchandising have been taken over by corporations.

    We live in a society designed for nongregarious white people who want to commute to an air-conditioned office, drive home in an air-conditioned car, stop on the way home to buy supper in an air-conditioned supermarket or fast food outlet, and return to their air-conditioned homes in silent streets to watch a basketball game with black players played in an air-conditioned arena and broadcast on TV. (Put centrally-heated for air-conditioned if appropriate for your season and location.)

    This model of society and the good life was not designed for black people or by black people. Many integrate into it perfectly well, but a significant minority don't, never will and continue to exist in these soulless reservations where it is easy for young testosterone-fuelled men to drift into a life of crime due to boredom if nothing else--unless they are really, really good at basketball.

    The lack of businesses on the northside of Jacksonville or most black neighborhoods in the USA has little to do with being black per se. You just mentioned Haiti has vibrant markets and street traffic and Haiti is very black.

    The lack of businesses in blacks areas in the USA has to do with low social trust among them that results in increased security and operational costs. Low margin businesses like grocery stores and retail shops can’t survive when half the merchandise walks out the doors. Also I think US blacks have a homicide rate than Haiti which is something since the average US blacks makes more than 10X the average Haitian.

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  182. @Steve Sailer
    But most of the black inner city neighborhoods with surging homicide rates are within the various city limits, so statistics focused on cities are useful for this issue.

    But most of the black inner city neighborhoods with surging homicide rates are within the various city limits, so statistics focused on cities are useful for this issue.

    Atlanta would be an exception to that rule. It depends on whether the city annexed it’s way outward as population grew and whites fled. Houston and Jacksonville are great examples along with San Antonio. Atlanta however has some dense poor ghettoes outside the city limit as does Detroit. But for me really the salient point is that Africans behave the same virtually everywhere (including outside the USA) while Latinos seem better (by far) behaved in the USA (i.e. El Paso) versus their homelands (i.e. Mexico City, Caracas, San Salvador, etc.) and whites are pretty consistent with some outliers driven by local politics or religion (i.e. Islam).

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  183. @Chrisnonymous
    My brother lives in Denver, and I visited him over Thanksgiving. He has friends in "nice neighborhoods" who have witnessed shootings across the street from them. However, he and his friends feel quite safe. He says the increase in murders is all gang-related and has to do with gentrification causing gangs to encroach on each others' territories. Apparently, if you're a regular Joe who's not interested in Mary Jane, you can still walk the streets without worry.

    Denver

    Is an outlier insofar as white deliberate ignorance. The 16th St mall has had a number of black mob attacks yet the hipsters and yuppies ALL pretend it’s always sunny in Denver. They have their huge bike rides on Thursday (?) nights with hundreds and hundreds of whites riding thru some sketchy areas oblivious to any black crime. The only acknowledgement any locals make is to avoid east colfax.

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  184. @Diversity Heretic
    I turned down a job offer in St. Louis in 1981 and have never regretted it. Just don't know what it is about the place--cities with great pasts do not always have great futures.

    cities with great pasts do not always have great futures.

    Amen. Case in point: Flint, MI. Birthplace of General Motors (and the UAW). In the 1980′s and 1990′s known for Michael Moore movies and being murder capital of USA. Today it’s known for serving up lead poisoned municipal water. Quite a legacy..

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  185. Camlost says:

    Yet when I am in Haiti, the residential areas are always abuzz with people on foot (so it is not just the climate) and everyone has a hustle, something to sell, the street markets are crowded with people selling produce, clothing, shoes, toys, fast food, shampoo, beauty products, and everyone can shop within walking distance of their home for essentials like drinking water, eggs, and cans of milk.

    It strikes me that in the US all of these areas of merchandising have been taken over by corporations.

    With a few extremely rare exceptions, Blacks are terrible at business. The reason you only see black cottage businesses in places like Haiti is because there’s no other class there to outperform them – Chinese, Koreans, Arabs, Whites.

    Blacks take too many shortcuts in business and don’t have patience for later gratification or investment. Even talented tenth blacks don’t bother to start their own black neighborhood businesses from the ground up. Plus, like in a lot of things, blacks encounter their biggest problems when they have to be around other blacks – who will all come into the store and either steal or think that everything should be a “hookup”. (for an example take a look Heisman Winner Jameis Winston still defending himself for stealing crablegs from Publix supermarket because the min wage deli counter guy told him “I got you” – implying that he didn’t have to pay)

    A lot of small businesses in the USA (such as cleaners, corner restaurants, liquor stores, gas stations etc.) are able to prosper and find some profit margin only due to the use of family labor. The liquor store and gas station by me are owned by Paskistanis and Indians who have family members working every shift, every day, 365 days a year. Blacks can’t trust their own family nor do they have the orderly family structure it takes to exercise this sort of discipline.

    It’s hilarious that blacks can’t even run businesses catering to the one thing they absolutely, positively love the most – their hair. The black beauty supply business is dominated by Koreans, while blacks are left running crappy, low margin barbers shops and hair braiding salons.

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  186. Camlost says:

    Atlanta would be an exception to that rule. It depends on whether the city annexed it’s way outward as population grew and whites fled. Houston and Jacksonville are great examples along with San Antonio. Atlanta however has some dense poor ghettoes outside the city limit as does Detroit.

    Your overall point is correct but Atlanta doesn’t have dense anything, outside of the expensive high rise condo towers built in the upscale midtown/buckhead area in the last 10 years. Atlanta is a region where everywhere lives in a cul-de-sac.

    The very few old-style projects and tenements were torn down before the Olympics and those folks were scattered to outer banlieus that are still mostly composed of duplexes, single-family homes and low-slung apartments of 2 stories of less.

    This is why Atlanta really doesn’t have a gang problem and is better for blacks than denser Northern Cities – having real living room helps save blacks from themselves.

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  187. @Reg Cæsar
    St Louis had the World's Fair the same year as the Olympics. We won a lot of gold at the latter because so few had shown up. Avery's amateurs couldn't afford the trip.

    Oh, well, guess we’ll have to make due with the only double-digit crop of World Series titles outside the Bronx.
     
    Besides being the best baseball town in America, St Louis has traditionally been the best soccer city outside of Kearny, New Jersey, as well. Few people know about this history. Just as even the Seattleites I meet are unaware that their city was the first in the US to win a Stanley Cup.

    Yes, and isn’t Seattle also the only American city to honor Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov, alias Lenin, with a public statue?
    How quaint!

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    Yes, and isn’t Seattle also the only American city to honor Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov, alias Lenin, with a public statue
     
    It's a big union town. Workers of the world united.
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  188. @Chip Smith
    Can we rule out the possibility that looting of pharmacies introduced new supply of controlled substances into illicit markets, with an uptick in violence following for the usual turf-related reasons? That would account for the relative localism of a "Ferguson effect," but I have no idea if there's evidence either way.

    Drug markets and homicide often go together. The looting of pharmacies may well have played a role. Or maybe there is something else going on involving drugs that is spreading intermittently across the country.

    If you look at national homicide graphs going back to 1976, there were two peaks: one in 1980 that was almost certainly powder cocaine driven and a longer-lived one in the early 1990s that was crack cocaine.

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    How about a general breakdown of our decadent and corrupt social order? The current presidential election seems to reflect this too.
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    Drug markets and homicide often go together. The looting of pharmacies may well have played a role. Or maybe there is something else going on involving drugs that is spreading intermittently across the country.

    If you look at national homicide graphs going back to 1976, there were two peaks: one in 1980 that was almost certainly powder cocaine driven and a longer-lived one in the early 1990s that was crack cocaine.

    How about a general breakdown of our decadent and corrupt social order? The current presidential election seems to reflect this too.

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  190. @Alec Leamas
    "But no one is leaving because of safety."

    Murders increased 12 percent over 2014 and nonfatal shootings 18 percent over 2014. I doubt that those numbers are anomalies given the similar increases in other urban areas. Some "nonfatal shootings" are no doubt injuries which would be murders in years past but for heroic life saving treatments and technologies perfected on the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Understand that in the bad old days, murders were about double of what they are now, with a larger population. If shootings and murders continue to rise year over year according to the 2015 trend you're looking at a fairly rapid wave of crime which will not take long to return to 70s/80s/early 90s rates. So what will happen is that limited police resources will be diverted to solving murders and shootings and assaults, rapes, home invasions, muggings and sundry property crimes will increase. Law enforcement on the triage system. Philadelphia is now majority black and the political apparatus is near entirely beholden to blacks. The chances that you'll see a reformer cum law and order type in the mold of Rendell regain the Mayoralty any time soon is remote at best. The path to City Hall lies in denying the criminality of blacks while using the crime rate as a pretext to demand more programs and funding from Uncle Sam and the Commonwealth. All of the bad old excuses and deflections for urban crime never really went away.

    It's just a bit silly and naive to say after the first year of a this trend "I'm not concerned."

    When you wake up one morning and realize that your freedom is self-restrained and your mental repose is constantly invaded by the ever present specter of crime you'll likely change your mind. That, or downwardly spiraling property values attendant to crime.

    Once again, I'm saying this as a kid who grew up in Philadelphia and saw this happen before. I still have family members, friends, and associates who are Philadelphia Police Officers - if you only knew what they're saying it'd curl your hair.

    I’m not denying that a change has taken place. As I said, my freedom is already “self-restrained” in that I’ve realized I can’t go out after dark anymore.

    I’m just reporting that no one is moving on this account yet, nor are property values falling.

    I’m not convinced they will either. I hear forced bussing was a big cause of white flight the first time around, so as long as the schools are left alone this time I don’t see a big stampede for the exits.

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    I hear forced bussing was a big cause of white flight the first time around, so as long as the schools are left alone this time I don’t see a big stampede for the exits.

     

    Something tells me the gentrifying fairies don't see forced busing as much of a threat. It doesn't touch them.

    Forced bussing, at least of girls, would be a different story.
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  191. @Former Darfur
    Most sociopaths are not criminals in the normal sense of the word. The smarter ones go into the professions, entertainment, or corporate life where being a sociopath gives them "the unfair advantage", as Mark Donohue the racer used to say. Education, the clergy, and of course government are loaded with them too.

    But you will find them, certainly, in small business. A smart sociopath can start a business with leverage decent and moral people won't think of. They will figure out ways to screw customers and the system and get satisfaction that way.

    For honest and decent people, small business is a crummy way to make a living more often than not. Employment with a company with billions in assets and hundreds or thousands of employees is a pretty good deal for most of us.

    Education, the clergy, and of course government are loaded with them too.

    We get more of the sociobaths.

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  192. Marty says:
    @Pat Boyle
    Yes its the same guy Darnell Earley a black guy with a good appearance but not much of a record of accomplishment. He didn't know much about water systems and now we'll see how much he knows about education.

    Flint is of course a failing city. It is in serious financial trouble. Early was the fourth emergency manager appointed in six years. He inherited a financial problem and also a water problem. Flint had had a corruption problem in the fifties with a new water source. A powerful local politician had tried to tried to maneuver Flint to buy Lake Huron facilities on land he had been buying up. Flint was repelled by this attempt and just bought their water from Detroit.

    But of course Detroit had its own problems. Approximately half of Detroit's remaining population doesn't pay its water bill. They have been cutting off service to users in an attempt to become solvent once again. Detroit it seemed no longer valued the Flint business.

    Flint made a deal with a new Huron water company in Genesee county. Detroit water learned of this and raised Flint's rates. But Flint couldn't use the new Huron water source for two years. So Early was confronted with two years of high rates - rates he did not want to pay.

    The Emergency Manager overrides the local elected officials. The local officials approved of Earley's plan to use water from the Flint River but it was his decision alone. There are pictures on the Web of the council happily celebrating the decision while raising glasses of the poisonous Flint River water.

    The area of the water uptake is a former Buick facility. It is polluted. But that's not the problem. The residents like to get their pictures taken holding a bottle of rusty brown water. That's not the problem either. The rust and dirt in the water is generally harmless but the lead is deadly. lead is colorless and odorless in water.

    The problem is that Flint has lead feeder pipes from the water mains. Here in Oakland California there are no lead feeder pipes. They all were taken out years ago but in the East many big and small cities still have lead pipes in their water distribution systems. Many of these cities now have big expensive projects under weigh to dig them all up. In one city this is a half billion dollar project.

    Most of the time a city can tolerate lead pipes because an impervious lead oxide film forms on the inside of the pipes. This is why Rome could use lead pipes for centuries without bad effects. Their lead problem came from other areas - cooking vessels and wine.

    Rome had alkali water but the Flint River is acidic. It quickly dissolved the protective lead coating in the Flint water system feeder pipes. One authority writes that the permissible level of lead is 10 parts per billion. Another says eleven. The federal government use fifteen as a limit. There have been some measurements from the Flint water system of over three thousand ppb. Bad water.

    Darnell Earley was trying to save some money.

    There are no lead feeder pipes in the EBMUD (East Bay Municipal Utilities District) but there may be lead pipes in my house. I had a new water heater installed last year it probably was soldered with the new no-lead solder. Apparently even brass faucets are made with a small amount of lead. But all these minor lead sources are under attack. In the near future nothing will be allowed to contain lead that might come in contact with human water consumption. Domestic lead will go the way of asbestos.

    How is it that I know all this? I know this much and quite a bit more because I spent a couple hours this morning reading Wikipedia and some news articles. So I wonder why Earley who was made the head of a water department didn't know any of it?

    Great comment. I’d just add one note local to Pat and myself. In SF, seemingly all water department employees are white. They’re very easy to spot, the only city employees driving bright green vehicles. I’ve yet to see anyone black in them. There must have been some kind of bargain made long ago – we’ll risk hiring blacks for other city departments, but not Water.

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  193. Tex says:
    @narrative
    You know, I've always wanted to hear this explained, it's sort of a mantra/shibboleth among your set, but with certain self-evident defects of logic: "The Iraq invasion was a favor to Israel"--how? It hastened the transformation of a 4th-world fiefdom under an ailing, basically irreligious strongman into a cat's paw of Iran, coincidentally Israel's most vocal (not to mention, militarily committed) enemy. It also ruined their lifeline to Turkey and eventually sunk Mubarak. Among other vibrant developments in jihad enfranchisement.

    Yet you cling to this meme about a giant surprise Channukah gift for Likud, it was finangled by somehow, thanks to Mossad frogmen... Back in reality, if Tel Aviv, Haifa and Lower East Al-Quds had a couple dozen opinionators in 2003 advocating for war, they were laughably outnumbered by like-minded machers in London, New York, Palm Beach, and Falls Church. Is it just too identitarianistically painful to admit that paid-up goys like Cheneystein, Rumsfeldowitz, and Hadassah Rice were the sous chefs on the Iraq turd sandwich? Of course, to contemporary Yelp raves from Ann Coulterberg & Moishe Limbaugh

    At the time, William Kristol asserted that the only way to bring peace to Israel was to take down Iraq. He also asserted that the war could pay for itself and that French firms shouldn’t get any reconstruction contracts, since “to the victors go the spoils.”

    Whenever I get sick of the stream of non-sequitur, PC, puke that streams from the media, I think fondly of the neo-cons and their sanity-free pronouncements.

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  194. @Palerider1861
    Yes, and isn't Seattle also the only American city to honor Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov, alias Lenin, with a public statue?
    How quaint!

    Yes, and isn’t Seattle also the only American city to honor Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov, alias Lenin, with a public statue

    It’s a big union town. Workers of the world united.

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  195. @Philly booster
    I'm not denying that a change has taken place. As I said, my freedom is already "self-restrained" in that I've realized I can't go out after dark anymore.

    I'm just reporting that no one is moving on this account yet, nor are property values falling.

    I'm not convinced they will either. I hear forced bussing was a big cause of white flight the first time around, so as long as the schools are left alone this time I don't see a big stampede for the exits.

    I hear forced bussing was a big cause of white flight the first time around, so as long as the schools are left alone this time I don’t see a big stampede for the exits.

    Something tells me the gentrifying fairies don’t see forced busing as much of a threat. It doesn’t touch them.

    Forced bussing, at least of girls, would be a different story.

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    Europe is now ground zero for forced bussing. We'll see if it spreads to America.
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  196. bomag says:
    @Corvinus
    ‘“White guilt’ means whites better shut up about bad Jewish behavior.”

    

Pro-white propaganda means that whites not deemed whites cannot make up their own minds regarding boorish conduct.

    “So, the economy is shaken to the core. Middle East is in flames. Tensions rise with Russia over whatever-Jews-cook-up-next-to-subvert-Putin.”

    Niwdog’s Law—As an online discussion continues with multiple posters, the likelihood of a person making assertions that the Jews are behind everything in the world that is “bad” exponentially grows.

    “‘White guilt’ means whites better shut up about bad black behavior. So, blacks get more out of control and kill each other and others.”

    Pro-white propaganda means that whites not deemed whites lack the capacity to generate reasons as to what is and what is not racially factual.

    “‘White guilt’ means whites better shut up about non-white invaders. So, Europe turns crazier with all those migrants and US is becoming more divided with diversity.”



    Pro-white propaganda means that whites not deemed whites have no liberty to associate with non-whites

    Pro-race is code for anti-humanity.

    Pro-race is code for anti-humanity

    Everyone except White people freely and shamelessly advocate for their own race.

    So, for the sake of Humanity, Whites are obligated to let themselves be extinguished?

    What, pray tell, is the reward the Galactic Overlords are going to bestow for that sacrifice?

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    "Everyone except White people freely and shamelessly advocate for their own race."

    Are you not doing that right now?

    "So, for the sake of Humanity, Whites are obligated to let themselves be extinguished?"

    Except that whites are not being "extinguished", they are around in great numbers and will continue to be in great numbers.
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  197. @Buffalo Joe
    Mike, I know Buffalo and it's suburbs. The city of Buffalo School District (BSD) has an annual budget just short of ONE BILLION dollars at $940 million. That number does not include another $140 million in grant money. The new Superintendent of Buffalo Schools is in Albany this week asking for $48 million to fund some new initiatives he is proposing . The City of Buffalo contributes only 7.5% of the BSD budget. We suburban honkies are doing our share for the BSD. Buffalo trails only NYC and Rochester in the entire nation for school districts with 30,000 students. They spent almost $21,000 per pupil. Suburbanites, white ,brown, yellow can't flee any further. They will revolt.

    Suburbanites, white ,brown, yellow can’t flee any further. They will revolt.

    Buffalonians had the option of white-flighting out of the country, while still keeping their jobs. As the demographics of Toronto ooze toward the Niagara River, that option becomes moot.

    Niagara Falls, N.Y., struck me as an aging beauty in bad disrepair. Niagara Falls, Ont., is safe, clean, rich… and insufferably tacky. Las Vegas without the scum.

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    Reg, It's surprisingly hard to gain residence in Canada for US citizens, after all we are not yet refugees or asylum seekers. Canadian prices are way higher than in the States and a daily commute across any of the four border bridges is a frustration that Job wouldn't bear.
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  198. I had occasion to drive last August from Niagara Falls NY to Tonawanda NY about 10 miles away, and, man, you get about 1/2 mile from the border and you are in a multi cultural slum. Blacks, Hispanics, tattooed whites, cars double parked, grafitti, check cashing joints, guys loitering on the street, etc. I was glad it was day light.

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  199. Brutusale says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    I hear forced bussing was a big cause of white flight the first time around, so as long as the schools are left alone this time I don’t see a big stampede for the exits.

     

    Something tells me the gentrifying fairies don't see forced busing as much of a threat. It doesn't touch them.

    Forced bussing, at least of girls, would be a different story.

    Europe is now ground zero for forced bussing. We’ll see if it spreads to America.

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  200. IA says:
    @Arclight
    I think this is true. When I lived in a pre-gentrification black neighborhood in DC, a lot of the older long time residents would complain about the generation that came after them - the proliferation of out of wedlock pregnancies, the crime, the indifference to the concept of working or earning an honest living. These were all working class people who had raised their kids in two parent homes and made an effort to keep up their homes and the neighborhood.

    They also had low trust in the (majority black) police force, correctly noting that many of them were basically criminals themselves or related to them, and if a good citizen called the police because of a violent crime, more often than not the police would tell the perpetrator who had dropped a dime.

    The area underwent a ton of violence during the crack epidemic and then a secondary wave right before the Great Recession as large numbers of previously-incarcerated people completed their sentences and came back home. When we discussed the surge in homicides, the response of one of my neighbors was that "it was just the trash taking out the trash."

    . . . more often than not the police would tell the perpetrator who had dropped a dime.

    Gotta blame the cops. Nothing’s good enough for ‘em, is it, Arc. Perfect shakedown technique on Eloi.

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  201. IA says:
    @Arclight
    I think this is true. When I lived in a pre-gentrification black neighborhood in DC, a lot of the older long time residents would complain about the generation that came after them - the proliferation of out of wedlock pregnancies, the crime, the indifference to the concept of working or earning an honest living. These were all working class people who had raised their kids in two parent homes and made an effort to keep up their homes and the neighborhood.

    They also had low trust in the (majority black) police force, correctly noting that many of them were basically criminals themselves or related to them, and if a good citizen called the police because of a violent crime, more often than not the police would tell the perpetrator who had dropped a dime.

    The area underwent a ton of violence during the crack epidemic and then a secondary wave right before the Great Recession as large numbers of previously-incarcerated people completed their sentences and came back home. When we discussed the surge in homicides, the response of one of my neighbors was that "it was just the trash taking out the trash."

    . . . more often than not the police would tell the perpetrator who had dropped a dime.

    When DC had a mostly white police force blacks and Eloi blamed the cops too. See, then, they were too insensitive to the delicate sensibilities of black thugs and negroes in general.

    They play you guys like Horowitz with a Stradivarius.

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  202. @Alec Leamas
    This is all true, and I recall cable news at the time interviewing people saying, in effect, "aren't you concerned about this massive Hurricane just offshore" and the response being "laissez le bon ton roulet." I mean quite literally those words were spoken in response.

    N’Awlins is not known as the Big Easy for nothing, ya know.

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  203. Svigor says:

    we invite you to put your money on the table to finance a movie about “great moments in the history of Catholic bishops”…. and then try to sell any tickets

    Karl still making shit comments? Check.

    It’s hilarious that blacks can’t even run businesses catering to the one thing they absolutely, positively love the most – their hair.

    Blacks hate their hair. That’s why they spend so much money *$@!ing with it.

    Pro-race is code for anti-humanity

    Everyone except White people freely and shamelessly advocate for their own race.

    So, for the sake of Humanity, Whites are obligated to let themselves be extinguished?

    What, pray tell, is the reward the Galactic Overlords are going to bestow for that sacrifice?

    Vinus’ elevator doesn’t stop at all the floors. Humanity is hard-wired to be ethnocentric (it takes a lot of social engineering to counter this, even with the world’s least ethnocentric race). Vinus thinks going contrary to human nature and setting up societies to work against human nature is “pro-humanity.” Leftists are nothing if not nuts.

    The area underwent a ton of violence

    Blew in like the weather, did it? Those poor black people!

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  204. […] Steve Sailer can’t (in his droll, mock-naive way) figure out why big-city homicides are up. […]

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  205. @Reg Cæsar

    Suburbanites, white ,brown, yellow can’t flee any further. They will revolt.
     
    Buffalonians had the option of white-flighting out of the country, while still keeping their jobs. As the demographics of Toronto ooze toward the Niagara River, that option becomes moot.

    Niagara Falls, N.Y., struck me as an aging beauty in bad disrepair. Niagara Falls, Ont., is safe, clean, rich... and insufferably tacky. Las Vegas without the scum.

    Reg, It’s surprisingly hard to gain residence in Canada for US citizens, after all we are not yet refugees or asylum seekers. Canadian prices are way higher than in the States and a daily commute across any of the four border bridges is a frustration that Job wouldn’t bear.

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  206. Corvinus says:
    @AndrewR
    Lazy, dumb, violent, substance abusing, r-selected, etc. Wiggers.

    Not that hard to figure out what I meant.

    “Lazy, dumb, violent, substance abusing, r-selected, etc. Wiggers. Not that hard to figure out what I meant.”

    You just described any person who can be those things at any point in time. And just stop with this r-selected b.s. It’s pseudo-science.

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    stop with this r-selected b.s

    I have found it to be a useful way to describe these phenomenon. Many others have found it useful and informative. Do you have a better way?

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  207. Corvinus says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    As an online discussion continues with multiple posters, the likelihood of a person making assertions that the Jews are behind everything in the world that is “bad” exponentially grows.
     
    As an online discussion continues with multiple posters, the likelihood of everything grows. Everything but coherence, that is.

    “As an online discussion continues with multiple posters, the likelihood of everything grows. Everything but coherence, that is.”

    Wow, we actually agree on something–those who focus that Joos cause every single problem are incoherent.

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    Wow, we actually agree on something–those who focus that Joos cause every single problem are incoherent.

    Who does that? Seriously. Plenty of us think that Jews cause *lots* of problems, and that it's professional suicide to say so in a public forum, but who, WHO?, says that Jews cause "every single problem"?

    Even Mel Gibson, who said Jews are the cause of all the wars, did not say Jews cause blizzards, or acne.


    What *I* have noticed is the pro-Jews who, anytime any Jews get due criticism for any particular issue, can be relied upon to pop up and insist Jews are NOT the cause of THIS problem, either.



    So, no. No anti-Semites say Jews cause every single problem. But PLENTY of philo-Semites say Jews are the cause of NO problems, anywhere, ever.
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  208. Corvinus says:
    @bomag
    Pro-race is code for anti-humanity

    Everyone except White people freely and shamelessly advocate for their own race.

    So, for the sake of Humanity, Whites are obligated to let themselves be extinguished?

    What, pray tell, is the reward the Galactic Overlords are going to bestow for that sacrifice?

    “Everyone except White people freely and shamelessly advocate for their own race.”

    Are you not doing that right now?

    “So, for the sake of Humanity, Whites are obligated to let themselves be extinguished?”

    Except that whites are not being “extinguished”, they are around in great numbers and will continue to be in great numbers.

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    Are you not doing that right now?

    I have no political agency in these matters; no one is advocating for me in the legislatures of this world, or in the administrations of this world. On the contrary, I must pay and give up my heritage to the Other in the name of ...something.

    Except that whites are not being “extinguished”, they are around in great numbers and will continue to be in great numbers.

    They were 35% of the world's population in 1900. Today, they are about 8%. The curve is not favorable; the Commons is being filled by others; and relative numbers are what matters here.

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  209. JSM says:
    @Corvinus
    "As an online discussion continues with multiple posters, the likelihood of everything grows. Everything but coherence, that is."

    Wow, we actually agree on something--those who focus that Joos cause every single problem are incoherent.

    Wow, we actually agree on something–those who focus that Joos cause every single problem are incoherent.

    Who does that? Seriously. Plenty of us think that Jews cause *lots* of problems, and that it’s professional suicide to say so in a public forum, but who, WHO?, says that Jews cause “every single problem”?

    Even Mel Gibson, who said Jews are the cause of all the wars, did not say Jews cause blizzards, or acne.

    What *I* have noticed is the pro-Jews who, anytime any Jews get due criticism for any particular issue, can be relied upon to pop up and insist Jews are NOT the cause of THIS problem, either.

    So, no. No anti-Semites say Jews cause every single problem. But PLENTY of philo-Semites say Jews are the cause of NO problems, anywhere, ever.

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    "Who does that? Seriously. Plenty of us think that Jews cause *lots* of problems, and that it’s professional suicide to say so in a public forum, but who, WHO?, says that Jews cause “every single problem”?"

    If I collected every comment on this fine blog about Joos, and charted the problems they seemingly cause, it run the gamut from Cultural Marxism to financial calamities to political instability. Praytell, what problems DON'T Joos cause?

    "What *I* have noticed is the pro-Jews who, anytime any Jews get due criticism for any particular issue, can be relied upon to pop up and insist Jews are NOT the cause of THIS problem, either."

    I have also noticed is the pro-whites who, anytime they get due criticism for any specific issue, can be relied to rear their head and insist that it is the anti-whites who are actually to blame.

    "But PLENTY of philo-Semites say Jews are the cause of NO problems, anywhere, ever."

    And PLENTY of whites say anti-whites are the cause of their own issues, forever more.
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  210. bomag says:
    @Corvinus
    "Everyone except White people freely and shamelessly advocate for their own race."

    Are you not doing that right now?

    "So, for the sake of Humanity, Whites are obligated to let themselves be extinguished?"

    Except that whites are not being "extinguished", they are around in great numbers and will continue to be in great numbers.

    Are you not doing that right now?

    I have no political agency in these matters; no one is advocating for me in the legislatures of this world, or in the administrations of this world. On the contrary, I must pay and give up my heritage to the Other in the name of …something.

    Except that whites are not being “extinguished”, they are around in great numbers and will continue to be in great numbers.

    They were 35% of the world’s population in 1900. Today, they are about 8%. The curve is not favorable; the Commons is being filled by others; and relative numbers are what matters here.

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    "They were 35% of the world’s population in 1900. Today, they are about 8%."

    Source?

    "Many others have found it useful and informative."

    Who are these "many others"?
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  211. bomag says:
    @Corvinus
    "Lazy, dumb, violent, substance abusing, r-selected, etc. Wiggers. Not that hard to figure out what I meant."

    You just described any person who can be those things at any point in time. And just stop with this r-selected b.s. It's pseudo-science.

    stop with this r-selected b.s

    I have found it to be a useful way to describe these phenomenon. Many others have found it useful and informative. Do you have a better way?

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  212. Corvinus says:
    @JSM
    Wow, we actually agree on something–those who focus that Joos cause every single problem are incoherent.

    Who does that? Seriously. Plenty of us think that Jews cause *lots* of problems, and that it's professional suicide to say so in a public forum, but who, WHO?, says that Jews cause "every single problem"?

    Even Mel Gibson, who said Jews are the cause of all the wars, did not say Jews cause blizzards, or acne.


    What *I* have noticed is the pro-Jews who, anytime any Jews get due criticism for any particular issue, can be relied upon to pop up and insist Jews are NOT the cause of THIS problem, either.



    So, no. No anti-Semites say Jews cause every single problem. But PLENTY of philo-Semites say Jews are the cause of NO problems, anywhere, ever.

    “Who does that? Seriously. Plenty of us think that Jews cause *lots* of problems, and that it’s professional suicide to say so in a public forum, but who, WHO?, says that Jews cause “every single problem”?”

    If I collected every comment on this fine blog about Joos, and charted the problems they seemingly cause, it run the gamut from Cultural Marxism to financial calamities to political instability. Praytell, what problems DON’T Joos cause?

    “What *I* have noticed is the pro-Jews who, anytime any Jews get due criticism for any particular issue, can be relied upon to pop up and insist Jews are NOT the cause of THIS problem, either.”

    I have also noticed is the pro-whites who, anytime they get due criticism for any specific issue, can be relied to rear their head and insist that it is the anti-whites who are actually to blame.

    “But PLENTY of philo-Semites say Jews are the cause of NO problems, anywhere, ever.”

    And PLENTY of whites say anti-whites are the cause of their own issues, forever more.

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  213. Corvinus says:
    @bomag
    Are you not doing that right now?

    I have no political agency in these matters; no one is advocating for me in the legislatures of this world, or in the administrations of this world. On the contrary, I must pay and give up my heritage to the Other in the name of ...something.

    Except that whites are not being “extinguished”, they are around in great numbers and will continue to be in great numbers.

    They were 35% of the world's population in 1900. Today, they are about 8%. The curve is not favorable; the Commons is being filled by others; and relative numbers are what matters here.

    “They were 35% of the world’s population in 1900. Today, they are about 8%.”

    Source?

    “Many others have found it useful and informative.”

    Who are these “many others”?

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    Source? Google

    r - K selection has been cited many times on this blog. Do a search.

    We observe that there are differing levels of parental investment in offspring. Can we agree on that?

    The r - K model was proposed as a way to examine this observation in the light of evolutionary processes. It matched the observations better than any other proposal. What we see are a gamut of strategies that range from many offspring/no post birth investment to one offspring/high investment after birth. Do you see something else going on? Do you have a better explanatory mechanism, or are we just supposed to believe nothing?

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  214. bomag says:
    @Corvinus
    "They were 35% of the world’s population in 1900. Today, they are about 8%."

    Source?

    "Many others have found it useful and informative."

    Who are these "many others"?

    Source? Google

    r – K selection has been cited many times on this blog. Do a search.

    We observe that there are differing levels of parental investment in offspring. Can we agree on that?

    The r – K model was proposed as a way to examine this observation in the light of evolutionary processes. It matched the observations better than any other proposal. What we see are a gamut of strategies that range from many offspring/no post birth investment to one offspring/high investment after birth. Do you see something else going on? Do you have a better explanatory mechanism, or are we just supposed to believe nothing?

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  215. Corvinus says:

    Do you have a source for your claim “They were 35% of the world’s population in 1900. Today, they are about 8%.”?

    “We observe that there are differing levels of parental investment in offspring. Can we agree on that?”

    Yes. r-K selection has been cited, but just because someone touts this ideology does not mean it is legitimately applied to humans. R/K selection is falls well short of aspects of history and the pathways that a complex society takes. One assumption is that liberals and non-whites, as r-dominated groups, have a built-in self-destruction mechanism. We ought to be critical of single-factor biological theory that attempts to explain a wide range of human behavior through a political lens.

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    Do you have a source for your claim “They were 35% of the world’s population in 1900. Today, they are about 8%.”?

    I've heard the claim. I went to Wikipedia; added the population figures for Europe and NA year 1900 and year 2010; adjusted for ethnic makeup; and it matched pretty closely. You can quibble, but it is in the ballpark.

    just because someone touts this ideology does not mean it is legitimately applied to humans.

    But it could very well be legitimate.

    We ought to be critical of single-factor biological theory

    Yes, but we benefit from a framework with which to discuss these things. You are just saying, "well, it is not perfect enough, so I am going to disregard it completely."
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  216. Corvinus says:
    @Former Darfur
    You need secure borders and you need eugenics. The rest takes care of itself over time.

    There are a hell of a lot of whites that need to be nonbreeders, by the way.

    “You need secure borders…”

    Yes.

    “and you need eugenics.”

    Absolutely not. Praytell, what gives you the liberty to make such a decision?

    “There are a hell of a lot of whites that need to be nonbreeders, by the way.”

    That is a decidedly anti-white statement.

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    “and you need eugenics.”...Absolutely not. Praytell, what gives you the liberty to make such a decision?

    Insofar as evolution is real and eugenics is implicit and explicit evolution, we'll always have it around.

    You are claiming it is possible to not have evolution around. What is your evidence that the world moves on in this manner?
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  217. bomag says:
    @Corvinus
    Do you have a source for your claim “They were 35% of the world’s population in 1900. Today, they are about 8%.”?

    “We observe that there are differing levels of parental investment in offspring. Can we agree on that?”

    Yes. r-K selection has been cited, but just because someone touts this ideology does not mean it is legitimately applied to humans. R/K selection is falls well short of aspects of history and the pathways that a complex society takes. One assumption is that liberals and non-whites, as r-dominated groups, have a built-in self-destruction mechanism. We ought to be critical of single-factor biological theory that attempts to explain a wide range of human behavior through a political lens.

    Do you have a source for your claim “They were 35% of the world’s population in 1900. Today, they are about 8%.”?

    I’ve heard the claim. I went to Wikipedia; added the population figures for Europe and NA year 1900 and year 2010; adjusted for ethnic makeup; and it matched pretty closely. You can quibble, but it is in the ballpark.

    just because someone touts this ideology does not mean it is legitimately applied to humans.

    But it could very well be legitimate.

    We ought to be critical of single-factor biological theory

    Yes, but we benefit from a framework with which to discuss these things. You are just saying, “well, it is not perfect enough, so I am going to disregard it completely.”

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  218. bomag says:
    @Corvinus
    "You need secure borders..."

    Yes.

    "and you need eugenics."

    Absolutely not. Praytell, what gives you the liberty to make such a decision?

    "There are a hell of a lot of whites that need to be nonbreeders, by the way."

    That is a decidedly anti-white statement.

    “and you need eugenics.”…Absolutely not. Praytell, what gives you the liberty to make such a decision?

    Insofar as evolution is real and eugenics is implicit and explicit evolution, we’ll always have it around.

    You are claiming it is possible to not have evolution around. What is your evidence that the world moves on in this manner?

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