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From the New York Times:

Inside the Clintons’ Plan to Defeat Donald Trump
By AMY CHOZICK and PATRICK HEALY FEB. 29, 2016

In the days after Donald J. Trump vanquished his Republican rivals in South Carolina and Nevada, prominent Democrats supporting Hillary Clinton arranged a series of meetings and conference calls to tackle a question many never thought they would ask: How do we defeat Mr. Trump in a general election?

Several Democrats argued that Mrs. Clinton, should she be her party’s nominee, would easily beat Mr. Trump. They were confident that his incendiary remarks about immigrants, women and Muslims would make him unacceptable to many Americans. They had faith that the growing electoral power of black, Hispanic and female voters would deliver a Clinton landslide if he were the Republican nominee.

But others, including former President Bill Clinton, dismissed those conclusions as denial. They said that Mr. Trump clearly had a keen sense of the electorate’s mood and that only a concerted campaign portraying him as dangerous and bigoted would win what both Clintons believe will be a close November election.

That strategy is beginning to take shape, with groups that support Mrs. Clinton preparing to script and test ads that would portray Mr. Trump as a misogynist and an enemy to the working class whose brash temper would put the nation and the world in grave danger. The plan is for those themes to be amplified later by two prominent surrogates: To fight Mr. Trump’s ability to sway the news cycle, Mr. Clinton would not hold back on the stump, and President Obama has told allies he would gleefully portray Mr. Trump as incapable of handling the duties of the Oval Office.

Here’s a fairly amusing article from 1999 about Trump battling NIMBYs in Westchester County to get permission to rebuild the golf course he’d just bought. By all accounts I can find, Bill Clinton joined Trump National a few years later and is still a member.

 
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  1. Too bad the Trump people can’t resurrect Burgess Meredith and get him to play Mickey to Trump’s Rocky and to train Trump to switch over from his tried and true Southpaw political habits to being a right-handed political puncher. Trump gets a bad rap for being so vague and general in the debates, so imagine, after being trained by Mickey, how he upsets the Clinton attacks by going all policy-wonk on Clinton.

    • Replies: @Thomas
    Funny but I'm seeing a lot of the #NeverTrump Republicans cite a lot of dead people today: Reagan, Eisenhower, TR, Lincoln, Bill Buckley, even Barry Goldwater. They're becoming the Party of the Undead. #RepublicanNecromancy
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Too bad the Trump people can’t resurrect Burgess Meredith...
     
    I remember seeing a documentary on the Apollo missions, narrated by Burgess Meredith, in high school. Burgess took a sideswipe at the hippie movement, whatever it was called in the '70s, saying that it could never achieve anything as impressive. One sentimental girl in the class particularly objected to this one throwaway statement. I guess it made her feel bad.
  2. If this were a Tom Wolfe novel, we’d soon find out that Trump’s streetwise private eye had surreptitiously recorded Clinton saying or doing things at Trump National that would cause Hillary problems if exposed.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Yeah but it'd turn out to be something really embarrassing for Trump, like a recording of Bill having his way with Melania at Trump's behest and for Trump's personal enjoyment.
    , @AndrewR
    I'm sure Trump has plenty of tricks up his sleeve to keep Hill n Bill from playing too dirtily
  3. http://gopthedailydose.com/2016/02/29/marco-rubio-mocks-donald-trumps-penis-size-trump-responds-back-its-huge/

    Wait a minute. GOP establishment has been telling us Trump has to go because he’s vulgar and crude.
    And Rubio has been presented as a classy alternative. So, why is doing the Howard Stern thing?

  4. The theory that the Clintons asked Trump to go all in in order to motivate the Dem base for Hillary after 8 Dem years is a persuasive one. The only question is, what does Trump get out of it if he goes down in the general? A cabinet post? He’s spent a lot of money on this.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    more false flag crapola
    , @Intelligent Dasein

    The theory that the Clintons asked Trump to go all in in order to motivate the Dem base for Hillary after 8 Dem years is a persuasive one.
     
    Persuasive only if you also believe in 9/11 "truth," the alien landing at Roswell, chemtrails, and the Loch Ness monster.
    , @Difference Maker
    Persuasive for morons
    , @Connecticut Famer
    Interesting. This resurrects a thought that I had some time ago, namely that Trump and the Clintons may have cut a deal, giving new meaning to the phrase "the fix is in."
    , @whatgives
    It's not working very well, if that's the case. The Dem voters are not turning out.
    , @AndrewR
    I actually believe that. Of course I also think that it backfired on the Clintons. Trump is far too narcassistic to not want to become president and far too wealthy to be bought off. The Clintons took a gamble by encouraging Trump to run and it seems to have been an unwise one. I'm sure a definitive tell-all book will be written within the next ten or twenty years. I await the juicy details.
  5. Steve,

    Are you stupid?

    Why do you keep pondering about Bill’s interactions with the Donald while completely ignoring Donald’s friendship turned into bitter rivalry with Hillary?

    Personally, if I was in Bill’s shoes, I’d savor every weekend I get the opportunity to play 18 on the course of the opponent my wife demolishes. Is it that hard to understand?

  6. It’s time to talk seriously about whether Trump can beat Hilary. No more fan boy adulation. Can the guy win in the general election? The polls say he can’t. Most of the conservatives I know like what he says but believe he either can’t beat Hilary or think this is all a Clintonian plot.

    • Replies: @TangoMan
    Trump is being bloodied daily in the Republican primary so that is going to take a toll on favorability ratings as measured by present-day opinion polls. What's Hillary facing? Nothing. Sanders is letting her skate. What happens to her favorability rating when Trump swivels his mighty guns on her and subjects her to continuous barrages in patterns that fall outside the expected attacks?

    Combine the above with the enthusiasm gap and you'd have to be a fool to undertake predictions about the outcome of the general election with zero data on these two factors. Remember, Clinton is an unindicted felon, possibly a traitor, running for President. That's got to worry people.

    , @Dave Pinsen
    The odd thing about the national polls is that they show Rubio doing better head-to-head with Hillary, when Rubio is trailing Trump by 20 points in his home state and might not win a primary outside of Puerto Rico.

    I'm optimistic about Trump versus Hillary. Trump should start with higher GOP turnout in the Rust Belt than Romney did; he should get a slightly higher % of the black and Latino vote than Romney; and he should be able to peel off some % of Bernie voters too.

    It seems conceivable that Trump could get ~65% of the white vote, ~12% of the black vote, and ~35% of the Hispanic vote.
    , @LondonBob
    https://www.sbstatesman.com/2016/02/23/political-science-professor-forecasts-trump-as-general-election-winner/

    Yes he can.

    Immigration, foreign policy, corruption and Hildog's actual record in office are all obvious targets.
    , @Bugg
    Poll of last weekend says Trump takes NY over Hilary. If he can turn some other blue states red, this is gonna be Reagan-like. And keep in mind; blacks will not turn out for Hillary as they did for Obama. If you up white working and middle class voters along with that drop in blacks, Trump may turn a lot of blue states red.
    , @TontoBubbaGoldstein
    Trump will beat Hillary worse than Reagan beat Mondale. The Dems only hope is Clinton and Sanders uniting to support a third candidate, such as Biden.
    , @Thea
    When she finally hacks that lung out on the campaign trail then what will they say?
  7. @Dave Pinsen
    If this were a Tom Wolfe novel, we'd soon find out that Trump's streetwise private eye had surreptitiously recorded Clinton saying or doing things at Trump National that would cause Hillary problems if exposed.

    Yeah but it’d turn out to be something really embarrassing for Trump, like a recording of Bill having his way with Melania at Trump’s behest and for Trump’s personal enjoyment.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Anonymous, rather crude comment, but just my opinion.
    , @BenKenobi
    Too obvious of a plot twist. The man who destroyed the political cucks is himself a literal cuck?
  8. Bill Clinton is Donald Trump’s not so secret weapon. Bill Clinton looks awful and comes off as a doddering old spaced out lech and liar. He has his good days when he is semi-effective for Hillary. But most days on the campaign trail he will be a negative.
    Partly to blame is Bill Clinton’s vegan diet, eating cauliflower pizza with no cheese. Also during his quadruple bypass he had some oxygen deprivation. Pure speculation on my part.
    http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/media/releases/is_there_long_term_brain_damage_after_bypass_surgery_more_evidence_puts_the_blame_on_heart_disease_itself

  9. Have you seen Bill Clinton lately? Dude looks and sounds like he’s dying:

  10. @Yeah
    It's time to talk seriously about whether Trump can beat Hilary. No more fan boy adulation. Can the guy win in the general election? The polls say he can't. Most of the conservatives I know like what he says but believe he either can't beat Hilary or think this is all a Clintonian plot.

    Trump is being bloodied daily in the Republican primary so that is going to take a toll on favorability ratings as measured by present-day opinion polls. What’s Hillary facing? Nothing. Sanders is letting her skate. What happens to her favorability rating when Trump swivels his mighty guns on her and subjects her to continuous barrages in patterns that fall outside the expected attacks?

    Combine the above with the enthusiasm gap and you’d have to be a fool to undertake predictions about the outcome of the general election with zero data on these two factors. Remember, Clinton is an unindicted felon, possibly a traitor, running for President. That’s got to worry people.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    What happens to her favorability rating when Trump swivels his mighty guns on her and subjects her to continuous barrages in patterns that fall outside the expected attacks?
     
    Or asks the voters, "Are you really overpaid?"

    Let alone, "Do you really want your white sons to be a racial minority in Hillaryland?"

  11. @Yeah
    It's time to talk seriously about whether Trump can beat Hilary. No more fan boy adulation. Can the guy win in the general election? The polls say he can't. Most of the conservatives I know like what he says but believe he either can't beat Hilary or think this is all a Clintonian plot.

    The odd thing about the national polls is that they show Rubio doing better head-to-head with Hillary, when Rubio is trailing Trump by 20 points in his home state and might not win a primary outside of Puerto Rico.

    I’m optimistic about Trump versus Hillary. Trump should start with higher GOP turnout in the Rust Belt than Romney did; he should get a slightly higher % of the black and Latino vote than Romney; and he should be able to peel off some % of Bernie voters too.

    It seems conceivable that Trump could get ~65% of the white vote, ~12% of the black vote, and ~35% of the Hispanic vote.

    • Replies: @G Pinfold
    I tend to agree. While the establishment Left and Right loathes him, the masses on both sides are listening to Trump or at least watching him.
  12. GOP in 2016. From white elephant to rogue elephant. Handlers don’t know what to do with the animal gone wild.

  13. If Trump can’t be beat, maybe GOP can build a Mecha-Trump.

    It’s like METROPOLIS. Create a robot double and control that.

    or CLU in Tron Legacy.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    Create a robot double and control that.

    They tried that already--the Marcobot. They even upgraded its software to make jokes about Trump's penis size, but nothing seems to work.
  14. • Replies: @berserker
    In Sweden, everyone is Swedish; especially, the criminals.
  15. I’ll share a golf story. I grew in suburban Philly. I always worked, even as a kid. I cut grass, raked leaves, shoveled snow from driveways, washed dished, fixed lawn mowers and any task that is now-a-days fit for a mexican. A friend told me he was making some good cash working as a caddie at the Merion Golf Club and could get me in.

    So I showed up at the caddie shack and he introduced me to the crew. They were friendly, but I sat there on a stool for a couple of days with no takers. My friend, it turns out, only worked for a few of his dad’s buddies, but rarely. Tough gig.

    • Replies: @Travis
    i have similar background...growing up in Drexel Hill mowing lawns and worked as a caddy starting at age 13 at Rolling Green....almost always got selected there ....did caddy at Merion because my friend had a regular and would go with him to caddy for foursomes...also caddied at Aronimink and Llanarch. At 16 started working at Merion Cricket club as a busboy...back in the 80s even the dishwasher was American, never saw a Mexican worker there. Merion Cricket was a greta place to work, we did not rely on tips and we all got $8 per hour working as busboys in 1986, tipping was not permitted. The bets part, when the shift ended they would allow us to choose a meal off the menu, never ate better in my life. When one considers how much I ate, it was equal to another $2 per hour.

    Merion was the toughest place to get selected as a newby caddie but they paid more than the others...but with so many courses in suburban Philadelphia there were many other options. Another great benefit as a caddy, they always bought us lunch, a great perk for a growing teenager.

  16. @gruff
    The theory that the Clintons asked Trump to go all in in order to motivate the Dem base for Hillary after 8 Dem years is a persuasive one. The only question is, what does Trump get out of it if he goes down in the general? A cabinet post? He's spent a lot of money on this.

    more false flag crapola

  17. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Trump, the Great Gutsby? Gotsby?

    Surely an egomaniac like Steve Jobs.

    Unlikely big winners.

    Gates is nerd king. So, are Google boys and Zuck.

    Jobs was smart but not that smart. But he was a hustler and thought big.

    Trump is smart but not that smart. Yet, he has bluster.

    The iconic touch.

    The whole act is like Gekko’s glam + Springsteen’s blue collar shtick.

    With that baseball cap, it’s like Trump is doing Michael Moore as host of lifestyles of rich and famous.

    Only in America.

    Trump got the yarbs.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    The Great Goysby.
  18. @Dave Pinsen
    The odd thing about the national polls is that they show Rubio doing better head-to-head with Hillary, when Rubio is trailing Trump by 20 points in his home state and might not win a primary outside of Puerto Rico.

    I'm optimistic about Trump versus Hillary. Trump should start with higher GOP turnout in the Rust Belt than Romney did; he should get a slightly higher % of the black and Latino vote than Romney; and he should be able to peel off some % of Bernie voters too.

    It seems conceivable that Trump could get ~65% of the white vote, ~12% of the black vote, and ~35% of the Hispanic vote.

    I tend to agree. While the establishment Left and Right loathes him, the masses on both sides are listening to Trump or at least watching him.

  19. Hmmm. Who does this remind you of?

  20. This is good news. The Clintons speak as if Trump’s nomination is already an established fact.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Mark, You make the most telling comment. The Clintons and their new ally Obama, are preparing to go to war against Trump. They don't seem to consider the other GOP candidates to be a threat to Hillary's coronation....that says a lot. I also think it's funny that Obama doesn't think Trump can handle the job, this from a former State Senate and US Senate bench warmer with the thinnest pre-election resume ever!
  21. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    The irony of Trump is he is seen as the anti-immigrant candidate but has the hunger, the fire in the belly, of an immigrant.

    In METROPOLITAN, the established wasp elites fret a lot, lack confidence, and just await their decline to irrelevance. This is what stuck out about Jeb. He seemed so settled whereas Trump has some of that Davy Crockett adventurer about him.

    Trump acts like he got off the boat with Tony Montana.

    And a NYer of all people who’s come to represent flyover country?

    Something is strange here.

    Maybe Trump has one thing in common with Obama.

    Though Obama was much favored by rich Libs and Jews, he felt as an outsider. He knew they were using him for his symbolic value.

    Likewise, Trump was used by rich NY Jews in the way that Gatsby is used in the novel by those richer and smarter than he. He has the frontman image that the others don’t have.

    If Trump had been surrounded by Wasps, maybe he would have felt differently. But having been surrounded by Jews who used his name and face, maybe he felt sort of ‘used’ like Obama.

    And so, he gets a kick out of connecting with people ‘left behind’.

    Or maybe it’s all just shtick.

    In business, he always felt beholden to others. He was with others richer and smarter than him. But speaking to crowds, he really feels like boss and top dog.

  22. But others, including former President Bill Clinton, dismissed those conclusions as denial. They said that Mr. Trump clearly had a keen sense of the electorate’s mood and that only a concerted campaign portraying him as dangerous and bigoted would win what both Clintons believe will be a close November election.

    That strategy is beginning to take shape, with groups that support Mrs. Clinton preparing to script and test ads that would portray Mr. Trump as a misogynist and an enemy to the working class whose brash temper would put the nation and the world in grave danger.

    I thought Bill Clinton was smarter than this.

    Arguments like the ones listed above are just preaching to the choir. They aren’t going to do anything meaningful to affect people leaning towards Trump. “Bigot”, “racist”, and “misogynist” are so overused that they don’t mean anything any more. An increasing number of people are simply going to tune them out completely.

    • Replies: @e
    Arguments like the ones listed above are just preaching to the choir. They aren’t going to do anything meaningful to affect people leaning towards Trump. “Bigot”, “racist”, and “misogynist” are so overused that they don’t mean anything any more. An increasing number of people are simply going to tune them out completely.

    True. One of three major factors that have led people to support Trump (the other are immigration and trade/the loss of manufacturing jobs) is that they too are sick of being called "bigot," "racist," "misogynist," and I'll throw in another, "homophobe."
    , @jackmcg
    Bill knows its the only chance they have. He is a smart guy, politically, but the Clintons are intellectually bankrupt and have been pandering to minorities and outcasts for a while. Literally, it is all they have. So its a wishing well.

    Trump, for his part, is hopefully smart enough to stay tough as nails on immigration while mentioning race as little as possible. This is an HBD election, but it can't explicitly be one, as most of brainwashed America isn't ready for it yet.
  23. @gruff
    The theory that the Clintons asked Trump to go all in in order to motivate the Dem base for Hillary after 8 Dem years is a persuasive one. The only question is, what does Trump get out of it if he goes down in the general? A cabinet post? He's spent a lot of money on this.

    The theory that the Clintons asked Trump to go all in in order to motivate the Dem base for Hillary after 8 Dem years is a persuasive one.

    Persuasive only if you also believe in 9/11 “truth,” the alien landing at Roswell, chemtrails, and the Loch Ness monster.

    • Replies: @whorefinder
    Careful; this site has more than a few 9/11 troofers around. Of course they also argue that we invaded Iraq based on 9/11 and that SIrhan Sirhan didn't kill RFK, so there's some credibility issues with them.

    That said, it's not totally unthinkable that Bill encouraged Trump to run when he heard Trump was thinking about it, thinking Trump would merely be a circus side show to disrupt the R's on the way to Hillary's coronation. But one of Bill's weaknesses has been that, despite being a man of the people type-sociopath, he really has a problem understanding populism issues beyond the Soccer Mom and moderate Good Ol' Boy set.

    As a sociopath, Bill worked to cultivate ties with the latter two groups to get elected, but really ignored other groups. This is why he was blindsided by how his Ruby Ridge and Waco overreaches built up a lot of hatred against him, and how he misjudged how much he could lie about the Lewinsky Affair and get away with it. And how Bill didn't see that Trump picking up on the National Question would resonate with the common man.
    , @James O'Meara
    I didn't believe in the official 9/11 story until I head about the hijacker's passport that floated down unburned or otherwise damaged and was picked up by a pedestrian who just happened to be an FBI agent. That convinced me.
  24. @Yeah
    It's time to talk seriously about whether Trump can beat Hilary. No more fan boy adulation. Can the guy win in the general election? The polls say he can't. Most of the conservatives I know like what he says but believe he either can't beat Hilary or think this is all a Clintonian plot.

    https://www.sbstatesman.com/2016/02/23/political-science-professor-forecasts-trump-as-general-election-winner/

    Yes he can.

    Immigration, foreign policy, corruption and Hildog’s actual record in office are all obvious targets.

  25. Hillary also thought she had the 2008 nomination locked up, and that Obama, the one-term do-nothing Senator, wasn’t anything to worry about. Whoops.

    Hillary also thought she had a button that said “reset” in Russian that she gave to Putin, and that she would be a good Secretary of State and work with him. Whoops. The word actually meant “overcharge” in Russian, and Putin spent the last 8 years taking advantage of her and America’s gaffes.

    Hillary also thought Bernie Sanders wouldn’t be a threat at all. Whoops. Bernie’s showing in Iowa and New Hampshire scared the crap outta her and the dems.

    Let’s face it: Hillary is extremely bad at campaigning, diplomacy, and judging the danger of situations. Bill, ever a more man of the people, is way more right.

    Now the way Trump beats her is simple: don’t harp on the nitpickiness of her millions of scandals, just assume the sale about her being a crook, and then hit her with a metaphorical Kill Shot insult. He’s already alluded to her seeming tired, which might work. I’m sure he’s got 3-4 major insults lined up.

    • Replies: @Travis
    agree, Hillary is not a good politician...she lacks the skills of her husband and is too ideological. Bill Clinton was popular because he was a blue dog democrat, and emphasized his conservative stance on the death penalty, taxes, welfare reform, free trade.

    Trump appears unstoppable , his momentum is just picking up. He will appeal to many independents, working class democrats and Blacks ...thus doing better than Romney. And Hillary is despised by conservatives who will enthusiastically vote Trump instead of Hillary. While the Neo-cons are freaking out, because Trump is against open boarders and endless wars. The typical voter is still furious with politicians who backed our invasion of Iraq, Hillary not only voted to invade Iraq, she destabilized Egypt and Libya as secretary of state...she is a very poor candidate. Trump could even win New York, forcing Hillary to waste money campaigning in New York and New Jersey. Trump has proven he knows how to use the media for free exposure , and is the only Republican candidate who can win in New Jersey and Pennsylvania.

    Trump as the nominee is guaranteed after today's voting. Trump is already at 81% in futures betting market, Rubio has fallen to 16%. In Europe most betting sites have Rubio 6 -1 while last week he was 5-1 tomorrow the betting line will be closer to 9-1 on Rubio. Cruz and Kasich are longshots paying 45 to 1

  26. @Intelligent Dasein

    The theory that the Clintons asked Trump to go all in in order to motivate the Dem base for Hillary after 8 Dem years is a persuasive one.
     
    Persuasive only if you also believe in 9/11 "truth," the alien landing at Roswell, chemtrails, and the Loch Ness monster.

    Careful; this site has more than a few 9/11 troofers around. Of course they also argue that we invaded Iraq based on 9/11 and that SIrhan Sirhan didn’t kill RFK, so there’s some credibility issues with them.

    That said, it’s not totally unthinkable that Bill encouraged Trump to run when he heard Trump was thinking about it, thinking Trump would merely be a circus side show to disrupt the R’s on the way to Hillary’s coronation. But one of Bill’s weaknesses has been that, despite being a man of the people type-sociopath, he really has a problem understanding populism issues beyond the Soccer Mom and moderate Good Ol’ Boy set.

    As a sociopath, Bill worked to cultivate ties with the latter two groups to get elected, but really ignored other groups. This is why he was blindsided by how his Ruby Ridge and Waco overreaches built up a lot of hatred against him, and how he misjudged how much he could lie about the Lewinsky Affair and get away with it. And how Bill didn’t see that Trump picking up on the National Question would resonate with the common man.

    • Replies: @James O'Meara
    "troofers", that's good. Always signal your submission by giving your opponents silly names. Stalinist, much?
    , @Reg Cæsar

    ... he misjudged how much he could lie about the Lewinsky Affair and get away with it.
     
    He did get away with it. It's better to view the "Lewinsky Affair" as insurance against the "Broaddrick Affair". Keep people's minds off the word "consent".
  27. gleefully

    Yeah, sure — that’s no doubt a direct quote — Obama actually said “gleefully”.

    The NYT is so full of shit.

  28. According to Metropolitan Golf Association, the last time Mr. Donald J. Trump posted a score was May of 2015. That alone is an indication he is serious about this President thing. Of course it is out of season in New York now but no scores in summer?

    Also, also, I did not know that Trump was a member of Winged Foot. He posted some scores from some place with a ridiculous 144 slope. That is Butler National level hard and not for me.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    What did Trump post in 2014?
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Of course it is out of season in New York now but no scores in summer?
     
    It's never out-of-season to a New Yorker with a private jet, especially at time of low fuel prices.
    , @Portlander
    There's a counter. If Obama starts going after Trump, Trump can counter who played more golf last year, and who is more serious about the Presidency?
  29. @Hodag
    According to Metropolitan Golf Association, the last time Mr. Donald J. Trump posted a score was May of 2015. That alone is an indication he is serious about this President thing. Of course it is out of season in New York now but no scores in summer?

    Also, also, I did not know that Trump was a member of Winged Foot. He posted some scores from some place with a ridiculous 144 slope. That is Butler National level hard and not for me.

    What did Trump post in 2014?

    • Replies: @Hodag
    7 in 2014, including a 70 at some place with a 149 slope! Butler is 155 from the tips, which is much further back than the over hard tees from the 80s. Trump plays to a 3, but one suspects that is a bit of a vanity handicap.

    http://www.mgagolf.org/handicapping/handicap-lookup
  30. @Yeah
    It's time to talk seriously about whether Trump can beat Hilary. No more fan boy adulation. Can the guy win in the general election? The polls say he can't. Most of the conservatives I know like what he says but believe he either can't beat Hilary or think this is all a Clintonian plot.

    Poll of last weekend says Trump takes NY over Hilary. If he can turn some other blue states red, this is gonna be Reagan-like. And keep in mind; blacks will not turn out for Hillary as they did for Obama. If you up white working and middle class voters along with that drop in blacks, Trump may turn a lot of blue states red.

  31. @gruff
    The theory that the Clintons asked Trump to go all in in order to motivate the Dem base for Hillary after 8 Dem years is a persuasive one. The only question is, what does Trump get out of it if he goes down in the general? A cabinet post? He's spent a lot of money on this.

    Persuasive for morons

  32. @gruff
    The theory that the Clintons asked Trump to go all in in order to motivate the Dem base for Hillary after 8 Dem years is a persuasive one. The only question is, what does Trump get out of it if he goes down in the general? A cabinet post? He's spent a lot of money on this.

    Interesting. This resurrects a thought that I had some time ago, namely that Trump and the Clintons may have cut a deal, giving new meaning to the phrase “the fix is in.”

  33. @gruff
    The theory that the Clintons asked Trump to go all in in order to motivate the Dem base for Hillary after 8 Dem years is a persuasive one. The only question is, what does Trump get out of it if he goes down in the general? A cabinet post? He's spent a lot of money on this.

    It’s not working very well, if that’s the case. The Dem voters are not turning out.

    • Replies: @gruff
    It's not the general yet. Clinton will turn the "he's a nazi" propaganda up to eleven by late summer.
    , @Clyde

    It’s not working very well, if that’s the case. The Dem voters are not turning out.
     
    I encourage all Dems to stay home on November 8th 2016. Especially blacks and guys who should feel embarrassed to vote for this shrill ol hag. No, we don't need you to vote for Trump. Just stay home and watch TV, have a BBQ or go to the shopping mall. Go fishing and have some beers.
  34. the growing electoral power of black, Hispanic and female voters

    Turnout at the South Carolina Democratic primary was down 35% vs 2008, suggesting blacks aren’t quite as enthusiastic without Obama running.

    The female share of the population is surely about the same (notwithstanding the “white death”).

    Hispanics, ok. One out of three.

  35. @Yeah
    It's time to talk seriously about whether Trump can beat Hilary. No more fan boy adulation. Can the guy win in the general election? The polls say he can't. Most of the conservatives I know like what he says but believe he either can't beat Hilary or think this is all a Clintonian plot.

    Trump will beat Hillary worse than Reagan beat Mondale. The Dems only hope is Clinton and Sanders uniting to support a third candidate, such as Biden.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Tonto, I actually think Biden would poll poorly against either Sanders or Hillary, worse against Trump. I don't think Sanders support among the young is transferable. Hearing Sanders ' platform from Biden would be dismissed as typical political BS. Somehow Sanders has charmed them.
  36. @jJay
    I'll share a golf story. I grew in suburban Philly. I always worked, even as a kid. I cut grass, raked leaves, shoveled snow from driveways, washed dished, fixed lawn mowers and any task that is now-a-days fit for a mexican. A friend told me he was making some good cash working as a caddie at the Merion Golf Club and could get me in.

    So I showed up at the caddie shack and he introduced me to the crew. They were friendly, but I sat there on a stool for a couple of days with no takers. My friend, it turns out, only worked for a few of his dad's buddies, but rarely. Tough gig.

    i have similar background…growing up in Drexel Hill mowing lawns and worked as a caddy starting at age 13 at Rolling Green….almost always got selected there ….did caddy at Merion because my friend had a regular and would go with him to caddy for foursomes…also caddied at Aronimink and Llanarch. At 16 started working at Merion Cricket club as a busboy…back in the 80s even the dishwasher was American, never saw a Mexican worker there. Merion Cricket was a greta place to work, we did not rely on tips and we all got $8 per hour working as busboys in 1986, tipping was not permitted. The bets part, when the shift ended they would allow us to choose a meal off the menu, never ate better in my life. When one considers how much I ate, it was equal to another $2 per hour.

    Merion was the toughest place to get selected as a newby caddie but they paid more than the others…but with so many courses in suburban Philadelphia there were many other options. Another great benefit as a caddy, they always bought us lunch, a great perk for a growing teenager.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Travis, I got my youngest daughter a job at a friend's golf course. They had her work the snack bar at the turn. Best days were tournament or outing days that included a sandwich and beverage at the turn. Guys handed in their meal chit and left a tip. Some weekend days were worth $300 in tips and $4 per hour. Golfers can be great customers, the occasional jerk is offset by the majority.
  37. I think there’s going to be a “Hillary effect,” similar to the “Bradley effect.”

    Back in 1982, the mayor of Los Angeles, Tom Bradley, was in a tight race for governor against the CA attorney general, George Deukmejian. Polls showed a slight edge to Bradley, but Deukmejian came away with the win. The discrepancy between the polling and actual vote tally was attributed to the Bradley effect, i.e. voters telling pollsters they were going to vote for Bradley, and then doing the opposite once in the privacy of the voting booth.

    I think there could be a Hillary effect this time around. Women voters may be reluctant to tell a stranger that they’re not going to vote for another woman, and there will be some number of men who will say they plan to vote for Hillary, just so they don’t have trouble at home. Tom Bradley came off as an inoffensive, well meaning, soft spoken guy but was still done in by the Bradley effect. Mrs. Clinton is none of those things. I have a hard time believing there will not be a huge Hillary effect.

    • Agree: Travis
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    …voters telling pollsters they were going to vote for Bradley, and then doing the opposite once in the privacy of the voting booth.
     
    Or not bothering to enter that booth at all.

    Incidentally, when exactly did he name the airport terminal after himself? As a candidate, or as a lame duck?
  38. If the Dems were going to run a spoiler Republican candidate, would they have him stir up Americans’ resentment over immigration? Risking a massive non-SWPL white turnout that wins the White House and expands the Republican majority in Congress and the statehouses?? This, after all the hard work they’ve done to keep us anesthetized?

    The Dems believe their own propaganda. Their spoiler candidate would try to win GOP primaries by harnessing that awesome Hispanic vote.

    Their spoiler would have looked a lot like ¡Jeb! In fact…

    • Replies: @gruff
    Good points.
  39. @TangoMan
    Too bad the Trump people can't resurrect Burgess Meredith and get him to play Mickey to Trump's Rocky and to train Trump to switch over from his tried and true Southpaw political habits to being a right-handed political puncher. Trump gets a bad rap for being so vague and general in the debates, so imagine, after being trained by Mickey, how he upsets the Clinton attacks by going all policy-wonk on Clinton.

    Funny but I’m seeing a lot of the #NeverTrump Republicans cite a lot of dead people today: Reagan, Eisenhower, TR, Lincoln, Bill Buckley, even Barry Goldwater. They’re becoming the Party of the Undead. #RepublicanNecromancy

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Funny but I’m seeing a lot of the #NeverTrump Republicans cite a lot of dead people today: Reagan, Eisenhower, TR, Lincoln, Bill Buckley, even Barry Goldwater.
     
    Thirty years from now, if there is still a Republican Party, they'll be adding Trump to that list, to block someone who is in "middle school" today.
    , @schmenz
    "They’re becoming the Party of the Undead."

    Delightful comment!
  40. http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2016/02/20/is-bill-clinton-brain-damaged/
    Is Bill Clinton brain damaged?

    I also found an article by a physician, John McDougall, M.D., claiming that Bill Clinton’s “madness” is “a consequence of heart-bypass surgery brain damage”. With a sympathy that I don’t share, given all the horrible things the toxic Clintons have wrought, Dr. McDougall writes:

    One of the savviest politicians of our generation, known for his wit, charm, and calm under extreme pressure, Bill Clinton appears out of character in the speeches and interviews televised since his bypass surgery September 6, 2004 and his mental deterioration may be accelerating….

    One of the best-kept secrets in medicine is the brain damage caused during bypass surgery . . . these well-recognized side effects have been reported in medical journals since 1969.1

    Brain damage during bypass surgery is so common that hospital personnel refer to it as “pump head.” The primary cause is emboli produced during surgery from clamping the aorta and from the “heart-lung machine.” This machine pumps blood to keep the patient alive while the heart is stopped during the operation. Unfortunately, this pump also introduces toxic gases, fat globules, and bits of plastic debris into the bloodstream of the patient under anesthesia. Once they are in the bloodstream, these particles migrate to the brain where they can clog capillaries and prevent adequate amounts of blood and oxygen from flowing to the brain. Essentially, all patients experience brain emboli during surgery and for many the damage is permanent.

    In 2001, an article in the New England Journal of Medicine reported that 5-years after bypass surgery 42% of patients showed decline in mental function of approximately 20 percent or more.2 A study published this year (2008) in the Annals of Thoracic Surgery using MRI testing just after bypass surgery found brain damage in 51% of patients.3 Three years after their time on the bypass pump, significant permanent reduction in mental capacity was identified in 31% of patients. I am not talking major stroke here; but these patients can’t remember names or numbers as they once did…..

    EXCERPT

    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    I saw photos of Bill Clinton at Chelsea's wedding and he didn't look like he'd live out the year. He's still around. He does not look good, however. I wonder what neurological problems Hillary might have. I mentioned a fall at 3:00 a.m to a person with a medical background without specifying the person involved, and her instant reaction was "stroke." Granted it was an uninformed diagnosis but the fact that she said it without hestitation meant something to me. It would also partially explain the long rehabiitation period--more than a concussion was involved. I have also read that Hillary drinks rather heavily. A repeat of Woodrow Wilson's second term is possible if she's elected: imagine a neurologically-damaged Hillary Clinton Presidency being managed by a troika of Bill Clinton, Huma Abedin and Chelsea Clinton Mezvinsky.
    , @jackmcg
    Well Bill does look awful. Weak, old, slow. Trump will simply say "There's something "off" about Bill, isn't there?". And that will be enough to capture it all.

    This election is going to continue to be the most entertaining thing I can imagine.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Is Bill Clinton brain damaged?
     
    Who cares? The real question, were those who voted for him?
    , @Jack D
    Bill is clearly not the man he once was, but most modern bypass surgery is done beating heart (off pump). They have figured out that you don't actually have to stop the heart in order to work on it (especially since they do the work endoscopically - 5 little slits) . The old school "open heart" surgery is as rare as dial telephones.
  41. @whorefinder
    Hillary also thought she had the 2008 nomination locked up, and that Obama, the one-term do-nothing Senator, wasn't anything to worry about. Whoops.

    Hillary also thought she had a button that said "reset" in Russian that she gave to Putin, and that she would be a good Secretary of State and work with him. Whoops. The word actually meant "overcharge" in Russian, and Putin spent the last 8 years taking advantage of her and America's gaffes.

    Hillary also thought Bernie Sanders wouldn't be a threat at all. Whoops. Bernie's showing in Iowa and New Hampshire scared the crap outta her and the dems.

    Let's face it: Hillary is extremely bad at campaigning, diplomacy, and judging the danger of situations. Bill, ever a more man of the people, is way more right.

    Now the way Trump beats her is simple: don't harp on the nitpickiness of her millions of scandals, just assume the sale about her being a crook, and then hit her with a metaphorical Kill Shot insult. He's already alluded to her seeming tired, which might work. I'm sure he's got 3-4 major insults lined up.

    agree, Hillary is not a good politician…she lacks the skills of her husband and is too ideological. Bill Clinton was popular because he was a blue dog democrat, and emphasized his conservative stance on the death penalty, taxes, welfare reform, free trade.

    Trump appears unstoppable , his momentum is just picking up. He will appeal to many independents, working class democrats and Blacks …thus doing better than Romney. And Hillary is despised by conservatives who will enthusiastically vote Trump instead of Hillary. While the Neo-cons are freaking out, because Trump is against open boarders and endless wars. The typical voter is still furious with politicians who backed our invasion of Iraq, Hillary not only voted to invade Iraq, she destabilized Egypt and Libya as secretary of state…she is a very poor candidate. Trump could even win New York, forcing Hillary to waste money campaigning in New York and New Jersey. Trump has proven he knows how to use the media for free exposure , and is the only Republican candidate who can win in New Jersey and Pennsylvania.

    Trump as the nominee is guaranteed after today’s voting. Trump is already at 81% in futures betting market, Rubio has fallen to 16%. In Europe most betting sites have Rubio 6 -1 while last week he was 5-1 tomorrow the betting line will be closer to 9-1 on Rubio. Cruz and Kasich are longshots paying 45 to 1

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Disclaimer: I was too young to be very politically aware during the 1990s, and I am currently far too lazy to do much research into the Clinton presidency.

    But... my general impression is that Hillary talked a blue dog game back then just like Bill. Just recently the astronomically overrated pseudointellectual Tanahisi Coates came out against Clinton for having used the term "superpredator" during his formative years which, inexplicably, he took as a personal insult despite being a square übernerd who was relentlessly bullied by the superpredators with whom he [can't overemphasize this] inexplicably identified. Stockholm Syndrome? Who knows. Just saying that I think she's not as ideological as you think. She says whatever will get her votes which, in 2016, is "oh, women and people of color are sooooo oppressed so vote for me unless you're a misogynist racist"

    , @Harry Baldwin
    Bill Clinton was popular because he was a blue dog democrat

    Hillary has really gone nuts with the extreme anti-gun rhetoric. She seems to be trying to make sure every gun owner in America shows up at the polls to vote against her. I also think the groveling to Black Lives Matter has got to turn off any Democrats who are not insane. (I heard a white college girl interviewed on NPR who liked Hillary's stance on "racial justice issues" because it was stronger than Bernie's. Mind control works!)
  42. @whatgives
    It's not working very well, if that's the case. The Dem voters are not turning out.

    It’s not the general yet. Clinton will turn the “he’s a nazi” propaganda up to eleven by late summer.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    Wait, I thought he was Mussolini...Trump just needs to keep hammering away at the Iraq War debacle: Republicans/Neocons/Bush + globalists + senators who VOTED for Iraq war = US GI body bags, ISIS, anarchy all over MENA, and finally, MIGRANT CRISIS IN EUROPE. And, bringing up outsourcing, unemployed/underemployed white middle class males, sky-high tuition, H1B visa migrants, America not "making anything anymore," immigration making it worse for American poor and minorities living in impoverished cities/towns won't hurt. If he gets behind global climate issues, or at least opens the door, he'll get the young people who will implode if Bernie gets kicked to the curb.
    , @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Clinton will turn the “he’s a nazi” propaganda up to eleven by late summer.
     
    So what is your point? The Left has used “he’s a nazi” so frequently that they have depleted its potency to the point of ineffectiveness. The same is true for "racist!" and for "bigot!" etc.

    Do you really think that Trump will be taken by surprise by the “he’s a nazi” meme? Come on.

    Trump has demonstrated resilience in the face of the combined assault of all those who believe they occupy the commanding heights of the political world. The shrill Clinton has, or will, alienate swaths of the electorate unwilling to succumb to the Democrats' Orwellian 1984 agenda, but also unwilling to throw in with the blinkered carnival barkers of the Republican Establishment.

    The election is Trump's to lose.
  43. @International Jew
    If the Dems were going to run a spoiler Republican candidate, would they have him stir up Americans' resentment over immigration? Risking a massive non-SWPL white turnout that wins the White House and expands the Republican majority in Congress and the statehouses?? This, after all the hard work they've done to keep us anesthetized?

    The Dems believe their own propaganda. Their spoiler candidate would try to win GOP primaries by harnessing that awesome Hispanic vote.

    Their spoiler would have looked a lot like ¡Jeb! In fact...

    Good points.

  44. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    How do we get saddled with people like the Clintons? There must be something wrong with our system where sociopaths like this clamber to the top. They’re both sexually kinky, sleazy, crooked, lie pathologically, sell out the American people and so on. Is there anything actually good that someone could point out about them, even just one thing?

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    anon,They only had one child, unlike the Kennedys, who we are finally running out of,
    , @International Jew
    Welfare reform.
    , @anon

    How do we get saddled with people like the Clintons? There must be something wrong with our system where sociopaths like this clamber to the top.
     
    When electoral success requires lots of money politicians are filtered by the big donors and the big donors are Wall St banking mafia who want politicians they can control - so either sociopaths who can easily lie to the public while doing what their donors tell them or puppets who are pliable due to some personal vice like homosexuality or visits to Epstein island.

    It's like Al Capone but on a larger scale.
  45. Trump needs to raise the bid. He must have known that his “David Duke” moment was going to happen which is why I find his unprepared response puzzling . My two cents is that on a national TV news station, openly and un-equivalently disavow David Duke and the Klan / Nazis. Then, at his next 20,000 all white stadium event, he needs to quickly disavow one more time prepare his supporters for the fact that they will be smeared the same way and that the election will only be about race and sex baiting. His opponents, including the press, will be caught in a trap of their own making. Clearly, this is the moment if ever, to turn this around. Even if the Democrats win the Presidential election, their relationship with white-Americans will be so scarred that the divide will never heal. It would take a certain measure of balls to pull this off but there isn’t a better man to do it.

    • Replies: @tris
    David Duke is just MSM gotcha. Most ordinary white folk are not into ideological white bigotry. In that sense he reacted correctly. Trump is mostly about unmasking the hypocritical, self-righteous and pretentious MSM gatekeepers.
  46. @Anonymous
    OT:

    SWPL news crew go to Sweden to film poor migrants, get beaten up by poor migrants:
    http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/news-and-current-affairs/60-minutes-film-crew-attacked-by-a-group-of-masked-men-in-stockholm-20160301-gn79oi.html

    article doesn't mention that the people beating up the SWPLs were Africans:

    http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/masked-men-attack-60-minutes-crew-in-sweden/news-story/acdf5f61158f5a647bf35ef4283beaa8

    In Sweden, everyone is Swedish; especially, the criminals.

  47. @Clyde
    http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2016/02/20/is-bill-clinton-brain-damaged/
    Is Bill Clinton brain damaged?

    I also found an article by a physician, John McDougall, M.D., claiming that Bill Clinton’s “madness” is “a consequence of heart-bypass surgery brain damage”. With a sympathy that I don’t share, given all the horrible things the toxic Clintons have wrought, Dr. McDougall writes:

    One of the savviest politicians of our generation, known for his wit, charm, and calm under extreme pressure, Bill Clinton appears out of character in the speeches and interviews televised since his bypass surgery September 6, 2004 and his mental deterioration may be accelerating….

    One of the best-kept secrets in medicine is the brain damage caused during bypass surgery . . . these well-recognized side effects have been reported in medical journals since 1969.1

    Brain damage during bypass surgery is so common that hospital personnel refer to it as “pump head.” The primary cause is emboli produced during surgery from clamping the aorta and from the “heart-lung machine.” This machine pumps blood to keep the patient alive while the heart is stopped during the operation. Unfortunately, this pump also introduces toxic gases, fat globules, and bits of plastic debris into the bloodstream of the patient under anesthesia. Once they are in the bloodstream, these particles migrate to the brain where they can clog capillaries and prevent adequate amounts of blood and oxygen from flowing to the brain. Essentially, all patients experience brain emboli during surgery and for many the damage is permanent.

    In 2001, an article in the New England Journal of Medicine reported that 5-years after bypass surgery 42% of patients showed decline in mental function of approximately 20 percent or more.2 A study published this year (2008) in the Annals of Thoracic Surgery using MRI testing just after bypass surgery found brain damage in 51% of patients.3 Three years after their time on the bypass pump, significant permanent reduction in mental capacity was identified in 31% of patients. I am not talking major stroke here; but these patients can’t remember names or numbers as they once did.....

    EXCERPT

    I saw photos of Bill Clinton at Chelsea’s wedding and he didn’t look like he’d live out the year. He’s still around. He does not look good, however. I wonder what neurological problems Hillary might have. I mentioned a fall at 3:00 a.m to a person with a medical background without specifying the person involved, and her instant reaction was “stroke.” Granted it was an uninformed diagnosis but the fact that she said it without hestitation meant something to me. It would also partially explain the long rehabiitation period–more than a concussion was involved. I have also read that Hillary drinks rather heavily. A repeat of Woodrow Wilson’s second term is possible if she’s elected: imagine a neurologically-damaged Hillary Clinton Presidency being managed by a troika of Bill Clinton, Huma Abedin and Chelsea Clinton Mezvinsky.

  48. Epstein’s island.

  49. @Dave Pinsen
    If this were a Tom Wolfe novel, we'd soon find out that Trump's streetwise private eye had surreptitiously recorded Clinton saying or doing things at Trump National that would cause Hillary problems if exposed.

    I’m sure Trump has plenty of tricks up his sleeve to keep Hill n Bill from playing too dirtily

  50. @gruff
    The theory that the Clintons asked Trump to go all in in order to motivate the Dem base for Hillary after 8 Dem years is a persuasive one. The only question is, what does Trump get out of it if he goes down in the general? A cabinet post? He's spent a lot of money on this.

    I actually believe that. Of course I also think that it backfired on the Clintons. Trump is far too narcassistic to not want to become president and far too wealthy to be bought off. The Clintons took a gamble by encouraging Trump to run and it seems to have been an unwise one. I’m sure a definitive tell-all book will be written within the next ten or twenty years. I await the juicy details.

  51. @Anonymous
    Yeah but it'd turn out to be something really embarrassing for Trump, like a recording of Bill having his way with Melania at Trump's behest and for Trump's personal enjoyment.

    Anonymous, rather crude comment, but just my opinion.

  52. e says:
    @JDG1980

    But others, including former President Bill Clinton, dismissed those conclusions as denial. They said that Mr. Trump clearly had a keen sense of the electorate’s mood and that only a concerted campaign portraying him as dangerous and bigoted would win what both Clintons believe will be a close November election.

    That strategy is beginning to take shape, with groups that support Mrs. Clinton preparing to script and test ads that would portray Mr. Trump as a misogynist and an enemy to the working class whose brash temper would put the nation and the world in grave danger.
     
    I thought Bill Clinton was smarter than this.

    Arguments like the ones listed above are just preaching to the choir. They aren't going to do anything meaningful to affect people leaning towards Trump. "Bigot", "racist", and "misogynist" are so overused that they don't mean anything any more. An increasing number of people are simply going to tune them out completely.

    Arguments like the ones listed above are just preaching to the choir. They aren’t going to do anything meaningful to affect people leaning towards Trump. “Bigot”, “racist”, and “misogynist” are so overused that they don’t mean anything any more. An increasing number of people are simply going to tune them out completely.

    True. One of three major factors that have led people to support Trump (the other are immigration and trade/the loss of manufacturing jobs) is that they too are sick of being called “bigot,” “racist,” “misogynist,” and I’ll throw in another, “homophobe.”

  53. @Mark Caplan
    This is good news. The Clintons speak as if Trump's nomination is already an established fact.

    Mark, You make the most telling comment. The Clintons and their new ally Obama, are preparing to go to war against Trump. They don’t seem to consider the other GOP candidates to be a threat to Hillary’s coronation….that says a lot. I also think it’s funny that Obama doesn’t think Trump can handle the job, this from a former State Senate and US Senate bench warmer with the thinnest pre-election resume ever!

  54. @TontoBubbaGoldstein
    Trump will beat Hillary worse than Reagan beat Mondale. The Dems only hope is Clinton and Sanders uniting to support a third candidate, such as Biden.

    Tonto, I actually think Biden would poll poorly against either Sanders or Hillary, worse against Trump. I don’t think Sanders support among the young is transferable. Hearing Sanders ‘ platform from Biden would be dismissed as typical political BS. Somehow Sanders has charmed them.

  55. @Yeah
    It's time to talk seriously about whether Trump can beat Hilary. No more fan boy adulation. Can the guy win in the general election? The polls say he can't. Most of the conservatives I know like what he says but believe he either can't beat Hilary or think this is all a Clintonian plot.

    When she finally hacks that lung out on the campaign trail then what will they say?

  56. @Travis
    agree, Hillary is not a good politician...she lacks the skills of her husband and is too ideological. Bill Clinton was popular because he was a blue dog democrat, and emphasized his conservative stance on the death penalty, taxes, welfare reform, free trade.

    Trump appears unstoppable , his momentum is just picking up. He will appeal to many independents, working class democrats and Blacks ...thus doing better than Romney. And Hillary is despised by conservatives who will enthusiastically vote Trump instead of Hillary. While the Neo-cons are freaking out, because Trump is against open boarders and endless wars. The typical voter is still furious with politicians who backed our invasion of Iraq, Hillary not only voted to invade Iraq, she destabilized Egypt and Libya as secretary of state...she is a very poor candidate. Trump could even win New York, forcing Hillary to waste money campaigning in New York and New Jersey. Trump has proven he knows how to use the media for free exposure , and is the only Republican candidate who can win in New Jersey and Pennsylvania.

    Trump as the nominee is guaranteed after today's voting. Trump is already at 81% in futures betting market, Rubio has fallen to 16%. In Europe most betting sites have Rubio 6 -1 while last week he was 5-1 tomorrow the betting line will be closer to 9-1 on Rubio. Cruz and Kasich are longshots paying 45 to 1

    Disclaimer: I was too young to be very politically aware during the 1990s, and I am currently far too lazy to do much research into the Clinton presidency.

    But… my general impression is that Hillary talked a blue dog game back then just like Bill. Just recently the astronomically overrated pseudointellectual Tanahisi Coates came out against Clinton for having used the term “superpredator” during his formative years which, inexplicably, he took as a personal insult despite being a square übernerd who was relentlessly bullied by the superpredators with whom he [can’t overemphasize this] inexplicably identified. Stockholm Syndrome? Who knows. Just saying that I think she’s not as ideological as you think. She says whatever will get her votes which, in 2016, is “oh, women and people of color are sooooo oppressed so vote for me unless you’re a misogynist racist”

  57. @JDG1980

    But others, including former President Bill Clinton, dismissed those conclusions as denial. They said that Mr. Trump clearly had a keen sense of the electorate’s mood and that only a concerted campaign portraying him as dangerous and bigoted would win what both Clintons believe will be a close November election.

    That strategy is beginning to take shape, with groups that support Mrs. Clinton preparing to script and test ads that would portray Mr. Trump as a misogynist and an enemy to the working class whose brash temper would put the nation and the world in grave danger.
     
    I thought Bill Clinton was smarter than this.

    Arguments like the ones listed above are just preaching to the choir. They aren't going to do anything meaningful to affect people leaning towards Trump. "Bigot", "racist", and "misogynist" are so overused that they don't mean anything any more. An increasing number of people are simply going to tune them out completely.

    Bill knows its the only chance they have. He is a smart guy, politically, but the Clintons are intellectually bankrupt and have been pandering to minorities and outcasts for a while. Literally, it is all they have. So its a wishing well.

    Trump, for his part, is hopefully smart enough to stay tough as nails on immigration while mentioning race as little as possible. This is an HBD election, but it can’t explicitly be one, as most of brainwashed America isn’t ready for it yet.

  58. @Travis
    i have similar background...growing up in Drexel Hill mowing lawns and worked as a caddy starting at age 13 at Rolling Green....almost always got selected there ....did caddy at Merion because my friend had a regular and would go with him to caddy for foursomes...also caddied at Aronimink and Llanarch. At 16 started working at Merion Cricket club as a busboy...back in the 80s even the dishwasher was American, never saw a Mexican worker there. Merion Cricket was a greta place to work, we did not rely on tips and we all got $8 per hour working as busboys in 1986, tipping was not permitted. The bets part, when the shift ended they would allow us to choose a meal off the menu, never ate better in my life. When one considers how much I ate, it was equal to another $2 per hour.

    Merion was the toughest place to get selected as a newby caddie but they paid more than the others...but with so many courses in suburban Philadelphia there were many other options. Another great benefit as a caddy, they always bought us lunch, a great perk for a growing teenager.

    Travis, I got my youngest daughter a job at a friend’s golf course. They had her work the snack bar at the turn. Best days were tournament or outing days that included a sandwich and beverage at the turn. Guys handed in their meal chit and left a tip. Some weekend days were worth $300 in tips and $4 per hour. Golfers can be great customers, the occasional jerk is offset by the majority.

  59. @Clyde
    http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2016/02/20/is-bill-clinton-brain-damaged/
    Is Bill Clinton brain damaged?

    I also found an article by a physician, John McDougall, M.D., claiming that Bill Clinton’s “madness” is “a consequence of heart-bypass surgery brain damage”. With a sympathy that I don’t share, given all the horrible things the toxic Clintons have wrought, Dr. McDougall writes:

    One of the savviest politicians of our generation, known for his wit, charm, and calm under extreme pressure, Bill Clinton appears out of character in the speeches and interviews televised since his bypass surgery September 6, 2004 and his mental deterioration may be accelerating….

    One of the best-kept secrets in medicine is the brain damage caused during bypass surgery . . . these well-recognized side effects have been reported in medical journals since 1969.1

    Brain damage during bypass surgery is so common that hospital personnel refer to it as “pump head.” The primary cause is emboli produced during surgery from clamping the aorta and from the “heart-lung machine.” This machine pumps blood to keep the patient alive while the heart is stopped during the operation. Unfortunately, this pump also introduces toxic gases, fat globules, and bits of plastic debris into the bloodstream of the patient under anesthesia. Once they are in the bloodstream, these particles migrate to the brain where they can clog capillaries and prevent adequate amounts of blood and oxygen from flowing to the brain. Essentially, all patients experience brain emboli during surgery and for many the damage is permanent.

    In 2001, an article in the New England Journal of Medicine reported that 5-years after bypass surgery 42% of patients showed decline in mental function of approximately 20 percent or more.2 A study published this year (2008) in the Annals of Thoracic Surgery using MRI testing just after bypass surgery found brain damage in 51% of patients.3 Three years after their time on the bypass pump, significant permanent reduction in mental capacity was identified in 31% of patients. I am not talking major stroke here; but these patients can’t remember names or numbers as they once did.....

    EXCERPT

    Well Bill does look awful. Weak, old, slow. Trump will simply say “There’s something “off” about Bill, isn’t there?”. And that will be enough to capture it all.

    This election is going to continue to be the most entertaining thing I can imagine.

  60. One of the more hilarious aspects of this race is the notion that two pasty white guys are minorities simply by virtue of having Spanish last names.

  61. @Intelligent Dasein

    The theory that the Clintons asked Trump to go all in in order to motivate the Dem base for Hillary after 8 Dem years is a persuasive one.
     
    Persuasive only if you also believe in 9/11 "truth," the alien landing at Roswell, chemtrails, and the Loch Ness monster.

    I didn’t believe in the official 9/11 story until I head about the hijacker’s passport that floated down unburned or otherwise damaged and was picked up by a pedestrian who just happened to be an FBI agent. That convinced me.

  62. @whorefinder
    Careful; this site has more than a few 9/11 troofers around. Of course they also argue that we invaded Iraq based on 9/11 and that SIrhan Sirhan didn't kill RFK, so there's some credibility issues with them.

    That said, it's not totally unthinkable that Bill encouraged Trump to run when he heard Trump was thinking about it, thinking Trump would merely be a circus side show to disrupt the R's on the way to Hillary's coronation. But one of Bill's weaknesses has been that, despite being a man of the people type-sociopath, he really has a problem understanding populism issues beyond the Soccer Mom and moderate Good Ol' Boy set.

    As a sociopath, Bill worked to cultivate ties with the latter two groups to get elected, but really ignored other groups. This is why he was blindsided by how his Ruby Ridge and Waco overreaches built up a lot of hatred against him, and how he misjudged how much he could lie about the Lewinsky Affair and get away with it. And how Bill didn't see that Trump picking up on the National Question would resonate with the common man.

    “troofers”, that’s good. Always signal your submission by giving your opponents silly names. Stalinist, much?

    • Replies: @whorefinder
    lol. Still going to say we invaded Iraq based on 9/11?

    Man, it's weird how you spell Afghanistan as Iraq. Just weird spelling I guess.
  63. @TangoMan
    Too bad the Trump people can't resurrect Burgess Meredith and get him to play Mickey to Trump's Rocky and to train Trump to switch over from his tried and true Southpaw political habits to being a right-handed political puncher. Trump gets a bad rap for being so vague and general in the debates, so imagine, after being trained by Mickey, how he upsets the Clinton attacks by going all policy-wonk on Clinton.

    Too bad the Trump people can’t resurrect Burgess Meredith…

    I remember seeing a documentary on the Apollo missions, narrated by Burgess Meredith, in high school. Burgess took a sideswipe at the hippie movement, whatever it was called in the ’70s, saying that it could never achieve anything as impressive. One sentimental girl in the class particularly objected to this one throwaway statement. I guess it made her feel bad.

  64. @Clyde
    http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2016/02/20/is-bill-clinton-brain-damaged/
    Is Bill Clinton brain damaged?

    I also found an article by a physician, John McDougall, M.D., claiming that Bill Clinton’s “madness” is “a consequence of heart-bypass surgery brain damage”. With a sympathy that I don’t share, given all the horrible things the toxic Clintons have wrought, Dr. McDougall writes:

    One of the savviest politicians of our generation, known for his wit, charm, and calm under extreme pressure, Bill Clinton appears out of character in the speeches and interviews televised since his bypass surgery September 6, 2004 and his mental deterioration may be accelerating….

    One of the best-kept secrets in medicine is the brain damage caused during bypass surgery . . . these well-recognized side effects have been reported in medical journals since 1969.1

    Brain damage during bypass surgery is so common that hospital personnel refer to it as “pump head.” The primary cause is emboli produced during surgery from clamping the aorta and from the “heart-lung machine.” This machine pumps blood to keep the patient alive while the heart is stopped during the operation. Unfortunately, this pump also introduces toxic gases, fat globules, and bits of plastic debris into the bloodstream of the patient under anesthesia. Once they are in the bloodstream, these particles migrate to the brain where they can clog capillaries and prevent adequate amounts of blood and oxygen from flowing to the brain. Essentially, all patients experience brain emboli during surgery and for many the damage is permanent.

    In 2001, an article in the New England Journal of Medicine reported that 5-years after bypass surgery 42% of patients showed decline in mental function of approximately 20 percent or more.2 A study published this year (2008) in the Annals of Thoracic Surgery using MRI testing just after bypass surgery found brain damage in 51% of patients.3 Three years after their time on the bypass pump, significant permanent reduction in mental capacity was identified in 31% of patients. I am not talking major stroke here; but these patients can’t remember names or numbers as they once did.....

    EXCERPT

    Is Bill Clinton brain damaged?

    Who cares? The real question, were those who voted for him?

  65. @Thomas
    Funny but I'm seeing a lot of the #NeverTrump Republicans cite a lot of dead people today: Reagan, Eisenhower, TR, Lincoln, Bill Buckley, even Barry Goldwater. They're becoming the Party of the Undead. #RepublicanNecromancy

    Funny but I’m seeing a lot of the #NeverTrump Republicans cite a lot of dead people today: Reagan, Eisenhower, TR, Lincoln, Bill Buckley, even Barry Goldwater.

    Thirty years from now, if there is still a Republican Party, they’ll be adding Trump to that list, to block someone who is in “middle school” today.

  66. @whorefinder
    Careful; this site has more than a few 9/11 troofers around. Of course they also argue that we invaded Iraq based on 9/11 and that SIrhan Sirhan didn't kill RFK, so there's some credibility issues with them.

    That said, it's not totally unthinkable that Bill encouraged Trump to run when he heard Trump was thinking about it, thinking Trump would merely be a circus side show to disrupt the R's on the way to Hillary's coronation. But one of Bill's weaknesses has been that, despite being a man of the people type-sociopath, he really has a problem understanding populism issues beyond the Soccer Mom and moderate Good Ol' Boy set.

    As a sociopath, Bill worked to cultivate ties with the latter two groups to get elected, but really ignored other groups. This is why he was blindsided by how his Ruby Ridge and Waco overreaches built up a lot of hatred against him, and how he misjudged how much he could lie about the Lewinsky Affair and get away with it. And how Bill didn't see that Trump picking up on the National Question would resonate with the common man.

    … he misjudged how much he could lie about the Lewinsky Affair and get away with it.

    He did get away with it. It’s better to view the “Lewinsky Affair” as insurance against the “Broaddrick Affair”. Keep people’s minds off the word “consent”.

  67. @Hodag
    According to Metropolitan Golf Association, the last time Mr. Donald J. Trump posted a score was May of 2015. That alone is an indication he is serious about this President thing. Of course it is out of season in New York now but no scores in summer?

    Also, also, I did not know that Trump was a member of Winged Foot. He posted some scores from some place with a ridiculous 144 slope. That is Butler National level hard and not for me.

    Of course it is out of season in New York now but no scores in summer?

    It’s never out-of-season to a New Yorker with a private jet, especially at time of low fuel prices.

    • Replies: @Clyde

    It’s never out-of-season to a New Yorker with a private jet, especially at time of low fuel prices.
     
    Jet fuel is Trump's largest campaign expense.
  68. @TangoMan
    Trump is being bloodied daily in the Republican primary so that is going to take a toll on favorability ratings as measured by present-day opinion polls. What's Hillary facing? Nothing. Sanders is letting her skate. What happens to her favorability rating when Trump swivels his mighty guns on her and subjects her to continuous barrages in patterns that fall outside the expected attacks?

    Combine the above with the enthusiasm gap and you'd have to be a fool to undertake predictions about the outcome of the general election with zero data on these two factors. Remember, Clinton is an unindicted felon, possibly a traitor, running for President. That's got to worry people.

    What happens to her favorability rating when Trump swivels his mighty guns on her and subjects her to continuous barrages in patterns that fall outside the expected attacks?

    Or asks the voters, “Are you really overpaid?”

    Let alone, “Do you really want your white sons to be a racial minority in Hillaryland?”

  69. @Clyde
    http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2016/02/20/is-bill-clinton-brain-damaged/
    Is Bill Clinton brain damaged?

    I also found an article by a physician, John McDougall, M.D., claiming that Bill Clinton’s “madness” is “a consequence of heart-bypass surgery brain damage”. With a sympathy that I don’t share, given all the horrible things the toxic Clintons have wrought, Dr. McDougall writes:

    One of the savviest politicians of our generation, known for his wit, charm, and calm under extreme pressure, Bill Clinton appears out of character in the speeches and interviews televised since his bypass surgery September 6, 2004 and his mental deterioration may be accelerating….

    One of the best-kept secrets in medicine is the brain damage caused during bypass surgery . . . these well-recognized side effects have been reported in medical journals since 1969.1

    Brain damage during bypass surgery is so common that hospital personnel refer to it as “pump head.” The primary cause is emboli produced during surgery from clamping the aorta and from the “heart-lung machine.” This machine pumps blood to keep the patient alive while the heart is stopped during the operation. Unfortunately, this pump also introduces toxic gases, fat globules, and bits of plastic debris into the bloodstream of the patient under anesthesia. Once they are in the bloodstream, these particles migrate to the brain where they can clog capillaries and prevent adequate amounts of blood and oxygen from flowing to the brain. Essentially, all patients experience brain emboli during surgery and for many the damage is permanent.

    In 2001, an article in the New England Journal of Medicine reported that 5-years after bypass surgery 42% of patients showed decline in mental function of approximately 20 percent or more.2 A study published this year (2008) in the Annals of Thoracic Surgery using MRI testing just after bypass surgery found brain damage in 51% of patients.3 Three years after their time on the bypass pump, significant permanent reduction in mental capacity was identified in 31% of patients. I am not talking major stroke here; but these patients can’t remember names or numbers as they once did.....

    EXCERPT

    Bill is clearly not the man he once was, but most modern bypass surgery is done beating heart (off pump). They have figured out that you don’t actually have to stop the heart in order to work on it (especially since they do the work endoscopically – 5 little slits) . The old school “open heart” surgery is as rare as dial telephones.

  70. One of the things that strikes me about the criticism of Trump, from both the right and the left, is that there seems to be no consistent line on exactly what his supposedly horrendous candidacy represents.

    For one critic, it’s that he’s an authoritarian. For another, it’s that he’s a full on liberal. For another, it’s that he is a foaming right wing nut. For another, it’s that he’s a racist. For another, it’s that he’s vulgarian. But for all of these critics, he’s a monster who will destroy all we hold sacred.

    Now at least some of the claims can’t easily be reconciled. He may be a liberal demon to some conservatives, and he may be a crazy wingnut to some liberals, but he can’t really be both. One would think that at the very least if he truly represented something horrible, there would be broad consensus as to what in particular is so very bad and dangerous about him.

    But I’m not seeing anything like a consistent picture. His monstrosity seems to assume very different shapes for different people.

  71. One good thing about the ongoing anti-White purge at the Oscars, Silicon Valley, etc. is that there is no place left to go for Whites. Particularly those fringes-of-upper class Whites, the strivers and on the make types trying to get ahead. Hillary as the nominee of the Black Party means there is no room for them — none at the high levels, none at the gofer levels, none in between. All taken by Blacks and to a lesser extent Hispanics.

    That’s why BernieBros exist. They want a place for White men, to a lesser extent White women, in the Democratic Party, government, NGOs, media, and such. And they are getting turfed out.

    The logic of Affirmative Action is that has to be ever expanding and ever more purging of Whites. At least thats how it works out with the Dems as the Black Party.

    BernieBros may not vote Trump. But there are also not likely to vote Hillary! as the avatar of the Black (and older White female Lesbian) party either.

    • Replies: @anon

    That’s why BernieBros exist. They want a place for White men, to a lesser extent White women, in the Democratic Party, government, NGOs, media, and such. And they are getting turfed out.
     
    Quite.

    Eventually they'll join the Trumpenwehr because they'll have no choice.
  72. @Anonymous
    Yeah but it'd turn out to be something really embarrassing for Trump, like a recording of Bill having his way with Melania at Trump's behest and for Trump's personal enjoyment.

    Too obvious of a plot twist. The man who destroyed the political cucks is himself a literal cuck?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Right, like a "Only Nixon can go to China" thing.
  73. Hillarity for Prez

  74. @Thomas
    Funny but I'm seeing a lot of the #NeverTrump Republicans cite a lot of dead people today: Reagan, Eisenhower, TR, Lincoln, Bill Buckley, even Barry Goldwater. They're becoming the Party of the Undead. #RepublicanNecromancy

    “They’re becoming the Party of the Undead.”

    Delightful comment!

  75. Bill can call Trump a misogynist, and Hussein can call Trump unqualified. They can call it the “Pot Meet Kettle” Campaign.

    The theory that the Clintons asked Trump to go all in in order to motivate the Dem base for Hillary after 8 Dem years is a persuasive one.

    Yes, I know when I plant poison pills I always tell them to break the Overton Window wide open, make closing the borders a huge national issue, bring in tons of new voters, and really crank up the opposition’s enthusiasm.

    OT: SWPL news crew go to Sweden to film poor migrants, get beaten up by poor migrants:

    article doesn’t mention that the people beating up the SWPLs were Africans:

    It takes a true propaganda machine to pretend to be a news machine and spike a story with video of a news crew in the process of being attacked and beaten. There’s ratings in them thar hills.

    It’s not working very well, if that’s the case. The Dem voters are not turning out.

    My mistake in 2012 was thinking people turn out in good numbers to vote against things. That doesn’t seem to be true. Turnout seems to be motivated by the chance to vote for something.

    I think there’s going to be a “Hillary effect,” similar to the “Bradley effect.”

    This is certain. The question is how strong the effect will be.

    Trump could even win New York, forcing Hillary to waste money campaigning in New York and New Jersey.

    Just forcing her to campaign in those states would be a big deal.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Svigor, "Just forcing her to campaign in those states would be a big deal." Well said, Hillary was anointed to the Senate by Liberal NY.....she is not so loved at this end of the state.
  76. Slick is yesterday’s news, the guy has one foot in the grave and another on a banana peel.

    Larry Summers just came out and condemned Trump as the greatest present threat to the prosperity and security of the United States.

    link:
    http://larrysummers.com/2016/03/01/6428/

    Now that’s a ringing endorsement when that mega-crook starts spewing FUD like a broken sewer main.

    Still it shows that the anti-Trump list just keeps getting bigger and bigger.

    So far we have:

    CNN
    FoxNews
    MSNBC
    WSJ
    WaPo
    LAT
    NYT
    The GOP
    Dozens of top GOP congressmen
    The Democratic party
    Chambers of Commerce
    Club for Growth
    Silicon Valley billionaires
    Hedge fund billionaires
    Koch brothers
    Adelson
    The entire staff at the National Review
    The Weekly Standard
    Hollywood

    The level of fear and loathing from the establishment is reaching levels that are beyond our comprehension.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    I didn't read the Larry Summers article because one brazen lie that jumped out at me was enough. Referring to Trump's initial refusal to "disavow" David Duke's endorsement of him, Summers says Trump "has already flirted with the Ku Klux Klan".
  77. @Anon
    Trump, the Great Gutsby? Gotsby?

    Surely an egomaniac like Steve Jobs.

    Unlikely big winners.

    Gates is nerd king. So, are Google boys and Zuck.

    Jobs was smart but not that smart. But he was a hustler and thought big.

    Trump is smart but not that smart. Yet, he has bluster.

    The iconic touch.

    The whole act is like Gekko's glam + Springsteen's blue collar shtick.

    With that baseball cap, it's like Trump is doing Michael Moore as host of lifestyles of rich and famous.

    Only in America.

    Trump got the yarbs.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL9aJZ4SqAc

    The Great Goysby.

  78. @Anon
    If Trump can't be beat, maybe GOP can build a Mecha-Trump.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wQ8FKGMHHk

    It's like METROPOLIS. Create a robot double and control that.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcReykfvqi4

    or CLU in Tron Legacy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_vRiyG6xdo

    Create a robot double and control that.

    They tried that already–the Marcobot. They even upgraded its software to make jokes about Trump’s penis size, but nothing seems to work.

  79. @Sgt. Joe Friday
    I think there's going to be a "Hillary effect," similar to the "Bradley effect."

    Back in 1982, the mayor of Los Angeles, Tom Bradley, was in a tight race for governor against the CA attorney general, George Deukmejian. Polls showed a slight edge to Bradley, but Deukmejian came away with the win. The discrepancy between the polling and actual vote tally was attributed to the Bradley effect, i.e. voters telling pollsters they were going to vote for Bradley, and then doing the opposite once in the privacy of the voting booth.

    I think there could be a Hillary effect this time around. Women voters may be reluctant to tell a stranger that they're not going to vote for another woman, and there will be some number of men who will say they plan to vote for Hillary, just so they don't have trouble at home. Tom Bradley came off as an inoffensive, well meaning, soft spoken guy but was still done in by the Bradley effect. Mrs. Clinton is none of those things. I have a hard time believing there will not be a huge Hillary effect.

    …voters telling pollsters they were going to vote for Bradley, and then doing the opposite once in the privacy of the voting booth.

    Or not bothering to enter that booth at all.

    Incidentally, when exactly did he name the airport terminal after himself? As a candidate, or as a lame duck?

  80. @Steve Sailer
    What did Trump post in 2014?

    7 in 2014, including a 70 at some place with a 149 slope! Butler is 155 from the tips, which is much further back than the over hard tees from the 80s. Trump plays to a 3, but one suspects that is a bit of a vanity handicap.

    http://www.mgagolf.org/handicapping/handicap-lookup

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    "Trump plays to a 3, but one suspects that is a bit of a vanity handicap."

    Is he a betting man? He must lose a fortune with a ridiculously small handicap like that in his late 60s.

    Or is he not a betting man? George Bernard Shaw said: "The roulette table pays nobody except him who keeps it. Nevertheless, a passion for gaming is common, though a passion for keeping roulette wheels is unknown.” Trump is maybe the exception to Shaw's rule.

  81. @Travis
    agree, Hillary is not a good politician...she lacks the skills of her husband and is too ideological. Bill Clinton was popular because he was a blue dog democrat, and emphasized his conservative stance on the death penalty, taxes, welfare reform, free trade.

    Trump appears unstoppable , his momentum is just picking up. He will appeal to many independents, working class democrats and Blacks ...thus doing better than Romney. And Hillary is despised by conservatives who will enthusiastically vote Trump instead of Hillary. While the Neo-cons are freaking out, because Trump is against open boarders and endless wars. The typical voter is still furious with politicians who backed our invasion of Iraq, Hillary not only voted to invade Iraq, she destabilized Egypt and Libya as secretary of state...she is a very poor candidate. Trump could even win New York, forcing Hillary to waste money campaigning in New York and New Jersey. Trump has proven he knows how to use the media for free exposure , and is the only Republican candidate who can win in New Jersey and Pennsylvania.

    Trump as the nominee is guaranteed after today's voting. Trump is already at 81% in futures betting market, Rubio has fallen to 16%. In Europe most betting sites have Rubio 6 -1 while last week he was 5-1 tomorrow the betting line will be closer to 9-1 on Rubio. Cruz and Kasich are longshots paying 45 to 1

    Bill Clinton was popular because he was a blue dog democrat

    Hillary has really gone nuts with the extreme anti-gun rhetoric. She seems to be trying to make sure every gun owner in America shows up at the polls to vote against her. I also think the groveling to Black Lives Matter has got to turn off any Democrats who are not insane. (I heard a white college girl interviewed on NPR who liked Hillary’s stance on “racial justice issues” because it was stronger than Bernie’s. Mind control works!)

  82. @Hodag
    According to Metropolitan Golf Association, the last time Mr. Donald J. Trump posted a score was May of 2015. That alone is an indication he is serious about this President thing. Of course it is out of season in New York now but no scores in summer?

    Also, also, I did not know that Trump was a member of Winged Foot. He posted some scores from some place with a ridiculous 144 slope. That is Butler National level hard and not for me.

    There’s a counter. If Obama starts going after Trump, Trump can counter who played more golf last year, and who is more serious about the Presidency?

  83. @Reg Cæsar

    Of course it is out of season in New York now but no scores in summer?
     
    It's never out-of-season to a New Yorker with a private jet, especially at time of low fuel prices.

    It’s never out-of-season to a New Yorker with a private jet, especially at time of low fuel prices.

    Jet fuel is Trump’s largest campaign expense.

    • Replies: @International Jew
    If he secures the nomination, he has half a billion dollars of federal campaign funds coming his way, no?
  84. “But others, including former President Bill Clinton, … said that … only a concerted campaign portraying him as dangerous and bigoted would win what both Clintons believe will be a close November election.”

    There are healthy happy civilians and peace officers walking around today who will be grievously injured in Democrat get-out-the-vote riots before November. The thought of it makes me sick and fearful.

  85. Bill Clinton to Relentlessly Denounce Trump…

    Aha! Denounce, not renounce.

    What a difference a D makes.

  86. @Hodag
    7 in 2014, including a 70 at some place with a 149 slope! Butler is 155 from the tips, which is much further back than the over hard tees from the 80s. Trump plays to a 3, but one suspects that is a bit of a vanity handicap.

    http://www.mgagolf.org/handicapping/handicap-lookup

    “Trump plays to a 3, but one suspects that is a bit of a vanity handicap.”

    Is he a betting man? He must lose a fortune with a ridiculously small handicap like that in his late 60s.

    Or is he not a betting man? George Bernard Shaw said: “The roulette table pays nobody except him who keeps it. Nevertheless, a passion for gaming is common, though a passion for keeping roulette wheels is unknown.” Trump is maybe the exception to Shaw’s rule.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Is he a betting man? He must lose a fortune with a ridiculously small handicap like that in his late 60s.
     
    Or maybe he makes it up in deals. "Yeah, he got me on the contract, but I beat him on the links."

    Can Trump golf his age? I've been researching "switch-golfers", and have found only three. Terry Kennedy, the old Oriole catcher, and actor Mark Wahlberg apparently drive and putt from opposite sides. But most impressive is Jim Kaat, the old Twins pitcher. He's golfed his age four times, three from the left and once from the right. Something for Guinness to look into.


    Trump is maybe the exception to Shaw’s rule.
     
    Trump owns, or owned, quite a few roulette wheels. Maybe not as many as Sheldon Adelson.
    , @Hodag
    In my caddying days in my youth, the big shooters played for lower stakes than the caddies. The two dollar Nassau is a thing...and making a guy make change in the proshop to actually put cash money in the hand, then put said money in your caddy's hand...oh, you got one over on them.

    The mobsters, they had real money games. 10 To 20k could move.
  87. All it will take is for Trump to go to the funeral of a slain officer or a white child who was killed by a ghetto rat and it will be like kicking an ant hill. Maybe the left should stop playing with this race thing while they can still claim to be ahead.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    I know I am cynical, but I got the feeling Obama and the Democrats are realizing that there is a problem with not showing enough respect to police and armed forces: I feel like there was sooo much attention given to the medal award for the Seal Team 6 officer (a man from rust-belt Ohio) yesterday.
  88. @Clyde

    It’s never out-of-season to a New Yorker with a private jet, especially at time of low fuel prices.
     
    Jet fuel is Trump's largest campaign expense.

    If he secures the nomination, he has half a billion dollars of federal campaign funds coming his way, no?

    • Replies: @Clyde
    I have no idea how that works though I remember Obama doing something cute in 2008 and turning down Federal campaign matching funds? I think. It worked out better for his campaign to not accept them.
  89. @International Jew
    If he secures the nomination, he has half a billion dollars of federal campaign funds coming his way, no?

    I have no idea how that works though I remember Obama doing something cute in 2008 and turning down Federal campaign matching funds? I think. It worked out better for his campaign to not accept them.

  90. @gruff
    It's not the general yet. Clinton will turn the "he's a nazi" propaganda up to eleven by late summer.

    Wait, I thought he was Mussolini…Trump just needs to keep hammering away at the Iraq War debacle: Republicans/Neocons/Bush + globalists + senators who VOTED for Iraq war = US GI body bags, ISIS, anarchy all over MENA, and finally, MIGRANT CRISIS IN EUROPE. And, bringing up outsourcing, unemployed/underemployed white middle class males, sky-high tuition, H1B visa migrants, America not “making anything anymore,” immigration making it worse for American poor and minorities living in impoverished cities/towns won’t hurt. If he gets behind global climate issues, or at least opens the door, he’ll get the young people who will implode if Bernie gets kicked to the curb.

  91. @Prof. Woland
    All it will take is for Trump to go to the funeral of a slain officer or a white child who was killed by a ghetto rat and it will be like kicking an ant hill. Maybe the left should stop playing with this race thing while they can still claim to be ahead.

    I know I am cynical, but I got the feeling Obama and the Democrats are realizing that there is a problem with not showing enough respect to police and armed forces: I feel like there was sooo much attention given to the medal award for the Seal Team 6 officer (a man from rust-belt Ohio) yesterday.

  92. @BenKenobi
    Too obvious of a plot twist. The man who destroyed the political cucks is himself a literal cuck?

    Right, like a “Only Nixon can go to China” thing.

  93. @rod1963
    Slick is yesterday's news, the guy has one foot in the grave and another on a banana peel.

    Larry Summers just came out and condemned Trump as the greatest present threat to the prosperity and security of the United States.

    link:
    http://larrysummers.com/2016/03/01/6428/

    Now that's a ringing endorsement when that mega-crook starts spewing FUD like a broken sewer main.

    Still it shows that the anti-Trump list just keeps getting bigger and bigger.

    So far we have:

    CNN
    FoxNews
    MSNBC
    WSJ
    WaPo
    LAT
    NYT
    The GOP
    Dozens of top GOP congressmen
    The Democratic party
    Chambers of Commerce
    Club for Growth
    Silicon Valley billionaires
    Hedge fund billionaires
    Koch brothers
    Adelson
    The entire staff at the National Review
    The Weekly Standard
    Hollywood

    The level of fear and loathing from the establishment is reaching levels that are beyond our comprehension.

    I didn’t read the Larry Summers article because one brazen lie that jumped out at me was enough. Referring to Trump’s initial refusal to “disavow” David Duke’s endorsement of him, Summers says Trump “has already flirted with the Ku Klux Klan”.

  94. @Steve Sailer
    "Trump plays to a 3, but one suspects that is a bit of a vanity handicap."

    Is he a betting man? He must lose a fortune with a ridiculously small handicap like that in his late 60s.

    Or is he not a betting man? George Bernard Shaw said: "The roulette table pays nobody except him who keeps it. Nevertheless, a passion for gaming is common, though a passion for keeping roulette wheels is unknown.” Trump is maybe the exception to Shaw's rule.

    Is he a betting man? He must lose a fortune with a ridiculously small handicap like that in his late 60s.

    Or maybe he makes it up in deals. “Yeah, he got me on the contract, but I beat him on the links.”

    Can Trump golf his age? I’ve been researching “switch-golfers”, and have found only three. Terry Kennedy, the old Oriole catcher, and actor Mark Wahlberg apparently drive and putt from opposite sides. But most impressive is Jim Kaat, the old Twins pitcher. He’s golfed his age four times, three from the left and once from the right. Something for Guinness to look into.

    Trump is maybe the exception to Shaw’s rule.

    Trump owns, or owned, quite a few roulette wheels. Maybe not as many as Sheldon Adelson.

    • Replies: @Hodag
    A regular golfing buddy is golfing ambidextrous. He has a lefty 7 iron, a right 3 wood etc.

    It is damn annoying.

    Canada has more left handed golfers than anyone due to hockey. And you should see how far hockey players hit the ball. I looped for Doug Wilson (hardest slapshot of the 80s) and the crack with a persimmon wood and a balata ball was shocking, like nothing I ever heard with the possible exception of Jim Dent.
  95. @anonymous
    How do we get saddled with people like the Clintons? There must be something wrong with our system where sociopaths like this clamber to the top. They're both sexually kinky, sleazy, crooked, lie pathologically, sell out the American people and so on. Is there anything actually good that someone could point out about them, even just one thing?

    anon,They only had one child, unlike the Kennedys, who we are finally running out of,

    • Replies: @Kylie
    Yes but that child lived to adulthood and already has one offspring with another one the way.
    , @LondonBob
    Chelsea looks a lot more like Hillary's old law partner Web Hubbell than Bill. Heard that Bill is infertile, would explain the lack of illegitimate children.
  96. @Svigor
    Bill can call Trump a misogynist, and Hussein can call Trump unqualified. They can call it the "Pot Meet Kettle" Campaign.

    The theory that the Clintons asked Trump to go all in in order to motivate the Dem base for Hillary after 8 Dem years is a persuasive one.
     
    Yes, I know when I plant poison pills I always tell them to break the Overton Window wide open, make closing the borders a huge national issue, bring in tons of new voters, and really crank up the opposition's enthusiasm.

    OT: SWPL news crew go to Sweden to film poor migrants, get beaten up by poor migrants:

    article doesn’t mention that the people beating up the SWPLs were Africans:
     
    It takes a true propaganda machine to pretend to be a news machine and spike a story with video of a news crew in the process of being attacked and beaten. There's ratings in them thar hills.

    It’s not working very well, if that’s the case. The Dem voters are not turning out.
     
    My mistake in 2012 was thinking people turn out in good numbers to vote against things. That doesn't seem to be true. Turnout seems to be motivated by the chance to vote for something.

    I think there’s going to be a “Hillary effect,” similar to the “Bradley effect.”
     
    This is certain. The question is how strong the effect will be.

    Trump could even win New York, forcing Hillary to waste money campaigning in New York and New Jersey.
     
    Just forcing her to campaign in those states would be a big deal.

    Svigor, “Just forcing her to campaign in those states would be a big deal.” Well said, Hillary was anointed to the Senate by Liberal NY…..she is not so loved at this end of the state.

  97. @Reg Cæsar

    Is he a betting man? He must lose a fortune with a ridiculously small handicap like that in his late 60s.
     
    Or maybe he makes it up in deals. "Yeah, he got me on the contract, but I beat him on the links."

    Can Trump golf his age? I've been researching "switch-golfers", and have found only three. Terry Kennedy, the old Oriole catcher, and actor Mark Wahlberg apparently drive and putt from opposite sides. But most impressive is Jim Kaat, the old Twins pitcher. He's golfed his age four times, three from the left and once from the right. Something for Guinness to look into.


    Trump is maybe the exception to Shaw’s rule.
     
    Trump owns, or owned, quite a few roulette wheels. Maybe not as many as Sheldon Adelson.

    A regular golfing buddy is golfing ambidextrous. He has a lefty 7 iron, a right 3 wood etc.

    It is damn annoying.

    Canada has more left handed golfers than anyone due to hockey. And you should see how far hockey players hit the ball. I looped for Doug Wilson (hardest slapshot of the 80s) and the crack with a persimmon wood and a balata ball was shocking, like nothing I ever heard with the possible exception of Jim Dent.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    A regular golfing buddy is golfing ambidextrous. He has a lefty 7 iron, a right 3 wood etc.
     
    That could make sense. A number of switch hitters are different animals on either side of the plate. The top ones, though-- Mantle, Rose, etc.-- seem pretty consistent.
  98. @James O'Meara
    "troofers", that's good. Always signal your submission by giving your opponents silly names. Stalinist, much?

    lol. Still going to say we invaded Iraq based on 9/11?

    Man, it’s weird how you spell Afghanistan as Iraq. Just weird spelling I guess.

  99. @Buffalo Joe
    anon,They only had one child, unlike the Kennedys, who we are finally running out of,

    Yes but that child lived to adulthood and already has one offspring with another one the way.

  100. @Steve Sailer
    "Trump plays to a 3, but one suspects that is a bit of a vanity handicap."

    Is he a betting man? He must lose a fortune with a ridiculously small handicap like that in his late 60s.

    Or is he not a betting man? George Bernard Shaw said: "The roulette table pays nobody except him who keeps it. Nevertheless, a passion for gaming is common, though a passion for keeping roulette wheels is unknown.” Trump is maybe the exception to Shaw's rule.

    In my caddying days in my youth, the big shooters played for lower stakes than the caddies. The two dollar Nassau is a thing…and making a guy make change in the proshop to actually put cash money in the hand, then put said money in your caddy’s hand…oh, you got one over on them.

    The mobsters, they had real money games. 10 To 20k could move.

  101. @gruff
    It's not the general yet. Clinton will turn the "he's a nazi" propaganda up to eleven by late summer.

    Clinton will turn the “he’s a nazi” propaganda up to eleven by late summer.

    So what is your point? The Left has used “he’s a nazi” so frequently that they have depleted its potency to the point of ineffectiveness. The same is true for “racist!” and for “bigot!” etc.

    Do you really think that Trump will be taken by surprise by the “he’s a nazi” meme? Come on.

    Trump has demonstrated resilience in the face of the combined assault of all those who believe they occupy the commanding heights of the political world. The shrill Clinton has, or will, alienate swaths of the electorate unwilling to succumb to the Democrats’ Orwellian 1984 agenda, but also unwilling to throw in with the blinkered carnival barkers of the Republican Establishment.

    The election is Trump’s to lose.

    • Replies: @gruff
    My point is that "he's a nazi" will be aimed at clearing the benches for Rodham. Obviously committed Trump voters are immune to the charge; the point will be to frighten nonvoters into turning out. Just look at how they're milking this David Duke red herring.
  102. @anonymous
    How do we get saddled with people like the Clintons? There must be something wrong with our system where sociopaths like this clamber to the top. They're both sexually kinky, sleazy, crooked, lie pathologically, sell out the American people and so on. Is there anything actually good that someone could point out about them, even just one thing?

    Welfare reform.

  103. @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Clinton will turn the “he’s a nazi” propaganda up to eleven by late summer.
     
    So what is your point? The Left has used “he’s a nazi” so frequently that they have depleted its potency to the point of ineffectiveness. The same is true for "racist!" and for "bigot!" etc.

    Do you really think that Trump will be taken by surprise by the “he’s a nazi” meme? Come on.

    Trump has demonstrated resilience in the face of the combined assault of all those who believe they occupy the commanding heights of the political world. The shrill Clinton has, or will, alienate swaths of the electorate unwilling to succumb to the Democrats' Orwellian 1984 agenda, but also unwilling to throw in with the blinkered carnival barkers of the Republican Establishment.

    The election is Trump's to lose.

    My point is that “he’s a nazi” will be aimed at clearing the benches for Rodham. Obviously committed Trump voters are immune to the charge; the point will be to frighten nonvoters into turning out. Just look at how they’re milking this David Duke red herring.

  104. Welfare reform.

    That was forced on them.

  105. @Hodag
    A regular golfing buddy is golfing ambidextrous. He has a lefty 7 iron, a right 3 wood etc.

    It is damn annoying.

    Canada has more left handed golfers than anyone due to hockey. And you should see how far hockey players hit the ball. I looped for Doug Wilson (hardest slapshot of the 80s) and the crack with a persimmon wood and a balata ball was shocking, like nothing I ever heard with the possible exception of Jim Dent.

    A regular golfing buddy is golfing ambidextrous. He has a lefty 7 iron, a right 3 wood etc.

    That could make sense. A number of switch hitters are different animals on either side of the plate. The top ones, though– Mantle, Rose, etc.– seem pretty consistent.

  106. @whatgives
    It's not working very well, if that's the case. The Dem voters are not turning out.

    It’s not working very well, if that’s the case. The Dem voters are not turning out.

    I encourage all Dems to stay home on November 8th 2016. Especially blacks and guys who should feel embarrassed to vote for this shrill ol hag. No, we don’t need you to vote for Trump. Just stay home and watch TV, have a BBQ or go to the shopping mall. Go fishing and have some beers.

  107. @Prof. Woland
    Trump needs to raise the bid. He must have known that his "David Duke" moment was going to happen which is why I find his unprepared response puzzling . My two cents is that on a national TV news station, openly and un-equivalently disavow David Duke and the Klan / Nazis. Then, at his next 20,000 all white stadium event, he needs to quickly disavow one more time prepare his supporters for the fact that they will be smeared the same way and that the election will only be about race and sex baiting. His opponents, including the press, will be caught in a trap of their own making. Clearly, this is the moment if ever, to turn this around. Even if the Democrats win the Presidential election, their relationship with white-Americans will be so scarred that the divide will never heal. It would take a certain measure of balls to pull this off but there isn't a better man to do it.

    David Duke is just MSM gotcha. Most ordinary white folk are not into ideological white bigotry. In that sense he reacted correctly. Trump is mostly about unmasking the hypocritical, self-righteous and pretentious MSM gatekeepers.

  108. @Buffalo Joe
    anon,They only had one child, unlike the Kennedys, who we are finally running out of,

    Chelsea looks a lot more like Hillary’s old law partner Web Hubbell than Bill. Heard that Bill is infertile, would explain the lack of illegitimate children.

  109. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous
    How do we get saddled with people like the Clintons? There must be something wrong with our system where sociopaths like this clamber to the top. They're both sexually kinky, sleazy, crooked, lie pathologically, sell out the American people and so on. Is there anything actually good that someone could point out about them, even just one thing?

    How do we get saddled with people like the Clintons? There must be something wrong with our system where sociopaths like this clamber to the top.

    When electoral success requires lots of money politicians are filtered by the big donors and the big donors are Wall St banking mafia who want politicians they can control – so either sociopaths who can easily lie to the public while doing what their donors tell them or puppets who are pliable due to some personal vice like homosexuality or visits to Epstein island.

    It’s like Al Capone but on a larger scale.

  110. @Whiskey
    One good thing about the ongoing anti-White purge at the Oscars, Silicon Valley, etc. is that there is no place left to go for Whites. Particularly those fringes-of-upper class Whites, the strivers and on the make types trying to get ahead. Hillary as the nominee of the Black Party means there is no room for them -- none at the high levels, none at the gofer levels, none in between. All taken by Blacks and to a lesser extent Hispanics.

    That's why BernieBros exist. They want a place for White men, to a lesser extent White women, in the Democratic Party, government, NGOs, media, and such. And they are getting turfed out.

    The logic of Affirmative Action is that has to be ever expanding and ever more purging of Whites. At least thats how it works out with the Dems as the Black Party.

    BernieBros may not vote Trump. But there are also not likely to vote Hillary! as the avatar of the Black (and older White female Lesbian) party either.

    That’s why BernieBros exist. They want a place for White men, to a lesser extent White women, in the Democratic Party, government, NGOs, media, and such. And they are getting turfed out.

    Quite.

    Eventually they’ll join the Trumpenwehr because they’ll have no choice.

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