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From The Guardian:

Biden condemns ‘white man’s culture’ as he laments role in Anita Hill hearings
Potential 2020 contender regrets not giving Hill ‘the hearing she deserved’ during Clarence Thomas confirmation process

Tue 26 Mar 2019 22.23 EDT

The former vice-president Joe Biden condemned “a white man’s culture” on Tuesday night as he lashed out against violence against women and, more specifically, lamented his role in the supreme court confirmation hearings that undermined Anita Hill’s credibility nearly three decades ago.

Biden, a Democratic presidential prospect who often highlights his white working-class roots, said Hill, who is African American, should not have been forced to face a panel of “a bunch of white guys”. …

Later in his Tuesday remarks, Biden called on Americans to “change the culture” that dates back centuries and allows pervasive violence against women. “It’s an English jurisprudential culture, a white man’s culture. It’s got to change,” Biden said.

This whole innocent until proven guilty thing has gotta go.

Conversely, being likely proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt like Jussie Smollett shouldn’t weigh you down assuming you have enough Intersectional Pokemon Points.

Who? Whom?

I’m not saying Stalin was a great guy or anything, but at least he wasn’t English. Know what I’m saying?

 
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  1. would be nice to get rid of these irish guys who so gladly give the country away. of course they’re up for tossing out all WASP tradition. as if it were theirs to give.

    • Agree: AndrewR
  2. AndrewR says:

    Can we stop calling the Irish white now? Good Lord.

  3. Hey, Kid Toucher Joe! Unless you pick a black woman beforehand for Veep, you’re gonna lose the Jackass nomination for Prezzy! And even if you do, you still could lose because of Kim Foxxy Lady of Cook County, Illinois!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  4. would be nice to get rid of these irish guys who so gladly give the country away. of course they’re up for dumping WASP tradition. they didn’t create it or maintain it. what’s it to them.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    , @Joe Walker
  5. Realist says:

    Biden is one more white, self hating , dumbass dickhead. The hubris, lying, corruption and cheating in this country is amazing.

    • Disagree: Old Prude
    • Replies: @Old Prude
    , @Buffalo Joe
  6. IHTG says:

    Biden has also said the US becoming majority non-white is great and desirable. He’s quietly became an odd sort of racial radical.

    • Replies: @fish
  7. jim jones says:

    I was talking to a Malaysian Law student and asked her why she came to London to study, “Because our Legal system is based on British Common Law”

    • Replies: @LondonBob
    , @Anonymous
  8. RVBlake says:

    Creepy Joe needs to do him a DNA test right now. Maybe there’s a percent or two of Vibrancy coursing through his veins that he can pump up for the election.

  9. El Dato says:

    I’m into this.

    We can finally invade the hills, lynch some rich fucks and burn down their mansions, no questions asked.

    lamented his role in the supreme court confirmation hearings that undermined Anita Hill’s credibility nearly three decades ago.

    Did Anita Hill ever have much credibility? The sorry show had the smell of “my revengeration for being spurned” all over it.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
  10. Arclight says:

    Between his musings on pre-selecting Stacy Abrams and this, I’d say he must think his support within the party (current polls are just based on name recognition) must be pretty weak.

  11. Well, without that “Engish Jurispruditial Culture” he’s going to need that shotgun he talked about on the campaign trail several years back.

    I used to share much of this country’s ‘don’t speak ill of the dead’ thing until I got older. Then it dawned on me. F#$% them! They spent their lives trying to screw others or just being plain assholes. That means the nextdoor neighbor to me growing up (old SOB would yell when a football went into his yard), but especially it means the Bidens their ilk*. Such opportunistic bastards.

    *McCain’s preferred running mate, Joe Lieberman, had the audacity to recently pen an op ed saying that McCain’s purpose in doing the thumbs down on Obamacare was a reverence for blah, blah, blah, whatever. He (McCain) told the senate leadership he was a reliable vote and waited until the last possible moment to f#%# them. It was the only legislative option to get rid of it with a simple senate majority.

    So McCain is dead. Good. I’ve never heard anything good about the man that knew him (several second and third hand accounts I’d heard of the Forrestal fiasco don’t paint him in a good light, but I wasn’t there). When Biden kicks off, good, too. And many others like him.

    I’m not sure what’s worse. AOC is actually doing what she thinks is right, and the contradictions in her politics vs. her lifestyle are just minor bumps on the way to a more perfect world. Biden, Tester, Lieberman, and several others have sold their soul for power and money. If something like that doesn’t want to make you believe in the afterlife and the ensuing consequences, I don’t know what will.

    • Replies: @Clyde
  12. The White Man’s culture is changing due to changing the RACIAL composition of the country.

    That part is a done deal.

    Now it’s an issue of what kind of tyranny we will have.

  13. anon[393] • Disclaimer says:

    Its true our white man justice like many of our civilizational improvements dont work in multi racial/gender nations nations like that create situations white men couldn’t have imagined back in the days and its true non white men can not get the justice they seek in our system. They require a low future time justice thats more personal than theoretical which of course is possible but precludes the high level of civilization our system is designed for, conversely white men themselves suffer under white man justice in multiracial/gend nations because our system assumes the players are white men and have white male morality like honor etc so we make a law that says true refugees must be given a fair hearing, and so a hundred million true refugees show up and some white man judge says ya gotta assume they are honorable and so you get the cuckservative ruling which is better the nation should perish with our culture and people with it than we besmirch white guy theories we have died for.Its the same with our economics of capitalism when practiced as intended by white guy code its a common good but not (((everyone))) practices it like that but some white guy party would rather our nation culture and people should perish than we besmirch the name of capitalism.
    Theres a few possible solutions, we revert to the pre white guy rules for a while and see who comes out on top under rules of the jungle hopefully this time on the way up someone will think to solve this problem forever this time rather than going through the missionary/colonial BS.

    Or we could restore the natural demography of our nations and pick up from about the early 1900s with white guys going their own way in their own lands and letting others do their own thing in their own lands.

    White guy morality is going to have to be amended either way it contains the seeds of its own construction because it did not spell out that it only applies to white men , Ok well actually the US constitution did spell out pretty specifically that it was not a democracy but a republic made up of white males of adult age of good character and property, who had very specific list of privileges all of which are either deleted or severely truncated so maybe spelling it out isn’t enough.

    If you want to avoid the last 150 years it seems pretty clear you have to start with no non whites allowed even one seems to be enough for white guys to start fretting over their unique needs for special justice and open the door to inviting more and finding groups among your own people to fret over.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  14. So, presidential aspirant Biden is against upholding the nation’s founding laws. Got it. NEXT!

  15. Eded says:

    I wonder if western multi-ethnic societies will move towards an ottoman style millet system, where different ethnicities can govern themselves with their own courts.

  16. So, why didn’t he plagiarise Martin Luther King instead of White Englishman Neil Kinnock?

    • LOL: Daniel H
  17. Lurker says:

    What a pathetic cuck.

    • Replies: @ChrisZ
    , @Cagey Beast
  18. Biden knows it will be tough (in reality, maybe impossible) to win the nomination as a White, because about 1/4 of Democratic primary voters are Black and will overwhelmingly support a candidate of color over any White. White Democrat leaders like Biden have spent decades stirring up Black racial paranoia and hatred in order to gin up the vote; now it is producing problems for them.

    In effect, attacking “White man’s jurisprudential culture,” he promising Black voters not only “free stuff,” but exemption from criminal liability, a la Smollett.

    Will urban White Liberals, who live in terror of Black crime, accept this? Probably; they’ll rationalize it as “just Joe talking.”

  19. Logan says:

    We need to return to the witch-smellers of African jurisprudential culture.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch_smeller

  20. BenKenobi says:

    WIDEN FOR BIDEN

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  21. WJ says:

    Neil Kinnock Biden is a far bigger threat than Kamala, Corey or even Hickenlooper. Many white normies will vote for him because he is one of them and how could one of them ram it to them too hard? They are also exhausted by the Trump drama, mostly created and stirred by the press and just absolutely yearn for the remembered stability of the last white Democrat, Clinton. They won’t even mind it so much when one of their own completely opens the borders, expands affirmative action, expands hate crime legislation and does scores of other below the radar activities that an I hate whitey political party does.

    • Replies: @Simon
  22. Issac says:

    Surprising no one except delusional civic nationalists.

  23. The American jurisprudential system hasn’t been “English” in the traditional sense for a long time. Well before Roe v. Wade, in fact. It started no later than when the original gorilla, Franklin Roosevelt, began packing the Supreme Court with fellow Freemasons, all of whom are bound by Masonic rule, if not their own consciences, to see law as a bendable tool of their nutty “liberal” agenda for social control.

    The Masons openly brag about their “brothers” on the Court:

    http://www.knightstemplar.org/KnightTemplar/articles/20100225.htm

    * People who talk about a “Jewish question” without referring also to the problem of Freemasonry are delusional

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    , @Logan
  24. Trevor H. says:

    “It’s an English jurisprudential culture, a white man’s culture. It’s got to change,” Biden said.

    Coincidentally, I’m a white guy and I’m running for the Democratic nomination for President!

    I do believe this utternance constitutes his formal announcement.

    Pretty much everything about civilization is just white af, when you think about it. The sooner we’re rid of that crap the better.

    Shouldn’t be too much longer now….

  25. ChrisZ says:
    @Lurker

    Agree, Lurker. My first thought whenever I see (let alone hear) ex-VP Biden is, “What an obvious jackass.”

    He was dealt a couple of rough cards in his personal life, and he’s Irish, so those things make him a sympathetic character. But there’s just something abnormal about people who take him seriously.

  26. Anonymous[268] • Disclaimer says:

    Well, I suppose who would prefer an African sangoma ( so-called ‘witch-doctor’) to dispense traditional African adjudication – possibly including ceremonies involving ritual sacrifice and casting of lots.

    • Replies: @Coemgen
  27. Being a Senator (from Delaware, i.e. DuPont) then a VP, means you don’t have much electoral campaign experience.

    Biden, whose minimal popularity is due to being about the last refuge for whites in Dem party, is now telling those whites he disavows them. Simultaneously, he is reminding blacks and women that he shafted one of theirs back in the 90’s. And unlike pragmatic white men, blacks and women never let a bygone be bygone, especially if you go and remind them about it.

    Yeah Joe, that should be a successful campaign strategy.

    Clever Joe.

  28. It bears repetition; the corrupt and authoritarian enforce mass immigration from corrupt and authoritarian Shitholistan to ensure a brave new world; multicultural, multiethnic, multireligious, corrupt, and authoritarian.

  29. Anon[152] • Disclaimer says:

    Who is he trying to appeal to? He’s alienating many of the people who currently support him, but nobody in the “white patriarchy must die” camp is going to be attracted to him. And if he tries to be someone he isn’t, he’s going to be slaughtered in the debates when he has to think on his feet.

    • Agree: Hail
  30. @prime noticer

    Is there really any shortage of of WASPs (or Jewish-WASP hybrids) that say the same kind of bullshit? Are Hillary Clinton and Howard Dean children of the Emerald Isle? What about the Bush clan?

    As an Irish Canadian (Protestant), I will never stop being amazed at this side of Internet WASPs. Apparently it’s always someone else’s fault that your money-grubbing, New World, Roundhead republic lacks a conservative ruling class. Okay man, you go with that if it works for you.

  31. Why won’t these yahoos who claim there are differences between the behavior of blacks and whites please tell us what those differences are?

    List the differences. Show us any evidence, not just blind faith, of exactly how there would be a difference.

    It is as if you ask someone the differences between giraffes and penguins and all they can come up with is “evolution”. No actual differences, just conclusory mush.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
  32. @theo the kraut

    It bears repetition; the corrupt and authoritarian enforce mass immigration from corrupt and authoritarian Shitholistan to ensure a brave new world; multicultural, multiethnic, multireligious, corrupt, and authoritarian.

    Is the a verb in there perchance?

  33. Rosie says:

    And unlike pragmatic white men, blacks and women never let a bygone be bygone, especially if you go and remind them about it.

    White women not letting a bygone be bygone:

    https://www.demos.org/news/affirmative-action-great-white-women-so-why-do-they-hate-it

  34. Biden’s running the same play White “liberal” men have been using since at least the early Seventies: badmouth other White men in order to get women to sleep with you and Black people to move on to another victim. Michael Moore does the same act, just while wearing blue collar drag:

    • Replies: @fish
  35. Stick says:

    I propose Identity Law. Different Laws for different people. The best way to do this is to divide up America and allow Identity Republics to be populated only by those identities. This would allow us all to view the achievements of differing identities in real time. Segregated Republics can stand while a diverse Republic must fall. This is what I’ve learned from Biden. It is the only just way. Let’s get on it we’ve only got twelve years left!

  36. @Lurker

    No, Biden is using flattery to metaphorically cuckold other men. He’s seducing other men’s women by playing the feminist. “Cucks” are the self-described conservatives who agree to go along with this narrative.

    • Replies: @Lurker
  37. A straight white male politician might be able garner some votes by denigrating his own race and heritage. But ultimately it’s a losing strategy. Heritage Americans are disgusted by it, POCs will vote for Puerto Rican floozy promising free ice cream and pony rides for all. So that leaves a small section of the ethnomasochistic white bloc; the conflicted ones who want to be politically correct while at the same time electing someone semi-competent who won’t plunge the country into chaos.

  38. Hibernian says:
    @prime noticer

    Commodore John Barry, Generals Phil Sheridan and Thomas Francis Meagher, and many others maintained it over the years.

    • Replies: @Louis Renault
    , @Anonymous
  39. Art Deco says:

    I’m recalling that after one televised Biden performance, Keith Ablow said that if a patient came into his office babbling like that, he’d do a dementia work-up.

    • LOL: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @istevefan
  40. Couldn’t they at least spare a “Clarence Thomas, who is black,…” I imagine that’s something the Guardian’s readers might not otherwise know.

  41. Clyde says:

    How well are Joe’s raving against stale, pale, males going to play? He is extremely stale. I doubt he will hit too many primaries before he throws in the towel.

    Art Deco–
    Keith Ablow…is getting #metooed these days.

  42. J1234 says:
    @Almost Missouri

    Biden joins the committee to reelect Trump.

  43. The guy is 76. Why is he bothering? Reagan was in his 60’s when he ran in 1980 and they said he was too old.

  44. @prime noticer

    I’m Irish and I agree with your point….

    But don’t forget this:Denis Kearney is responsible for delaying the arrival of Andrew Yang’s Parents to our shores….and this certainly was a good thing….for what Andrew Yang offers Native Born White American Males is a massive increase in the H1B….L1B Visa Program=AN OPEN AND DELIBERATE POLICY OF WHITE GENOCIDE!!!!…It is truly revolting to watch the swarmy Richard Spencer and other Alt Righters go dizzy in the head over the hostile Asian Andrew Yang……

    Didn’t half Irishman Judge Bruce Wright let a black youth who stabbed a White Cop walk free?

  45. Anon7 says:

    Physician friends told me about a woman who stood up in one of their meetings to decry the European male bias in medicine, touting alternative medicine that was being ignored. She was saying that scientific, rational thinking and large-scale double-blind testing was not the only way (and probably not the best way) to do medical research. Unbelievable.

    Now, we learn that Western European thinking about the law and government is ALSO just load of biased male white supremacist thinking, and that alternatives must be considered. What kind of thinking would that be? Alternatives like what? Unbelievable.

  46. Imagine the world without the notion of justice we’ve come to take for granted — even if only as an ideal. Forward into broad, sunlit uplands…

  47. @theo the kraut

    ‘It bears repetition; the corrupt and authoritarian enforce mass immigration from corrupt and authoritarian Shitholistan to ensure a brave new world; multicultural, multiethnic, multireligious, corrupt, and authoritarian.’

    Rather interestingly, you’re pretty much decribing the later Ottoman Empire, which, I’ll point out, is one of the few examples of a diverse society that actually functioned for any length of time.

    The comparison holds up remarkably well: the Ottomans were even into forcing mass relocations of populations.

  48. I am a descendant of a Virginia gentleman who always treated women with immense respect.

    Joe Biden is an uncouth, octopus-armed sicko Leprechaun who loves to wrap up vulnerable women and nuzzle his bald, hair-plugged head right into their neck and use his vile Leprechaun lips to smooch them.

    Un-hand the ladies, Biden, you disgusting Leprechaun lout!

    I have seen this rancid Leprechaun oaf Biden on the internet grabbing young ladies and then burrowing his bald head with its disgusting hair plugs into their neck and bosom region. Biden is a rancid pervert who should be popped in the nose for his attacks and actions against lovely ladies who don’t want to be bothered by Biden and his hair-plugged bald coconut! Dammit!

    New Hampshire people have been aware of this rancid rodent Leprechaun Biden and his perverted persistence in pushing his hair-plugged bald head onto women while smothering them with his tentacles.

    This lady on Twitter warned the public about Biden to help protect the University of New Hampshire lady lawyers from bald bastard Biden. I tried to warn the ladies too!

    Tweets from 2015:

  49. Tiny Duck says:

    what did he say that was wrong? for too long are “justice” system has been held hostage by evil racists who do not care about the natural law only privileging themselves.

    I applaud Biden for having the courage to tell the truth

    white “men”: rape women, steal things, shoot up schools, falsely accuse People of Color all the time

    Men of Color: respect women, honest, believe in manly fisticuffs, believe in the rule of natural law

    No wonder white girls are increasingly dating Men of Color.

    If you think I am exaggerating then you need to read Leonard Pitts

    Most People of Color AGEREE WITH ME that white “men” are garbage that do not contribute anyting to society

    WE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE

    • Replies: @Sam Coulton
    , @Coemgen
  50. Mr. Anon says:

    Later in his Tuesday remarks, Biden called on Americans to “change the culture” that dates back centuries and allows pervasive violence against women. “It’s an English jurisprudential culture, a white man’s culture. It’s got to change,” Biden said.

    Whereas the centuries old yellow man’s culture (foot binding, concubinage, sex-selective infanticide) or centuries old brown man’s culture (suttee) or centuries old black man’s culture (whatever awful things they do to their women) are no doubt very supportive of women.

    • Agree: Rosie
    • Replies: @jim jones
    , @wpic
  51. Biden’s remarks really do have a certain depth and (inverse) profundity.

    ‘…Biden, a Democratic presidential prospect who often highlights his white working-class roots, said Hill, who is African American, should not have been forced to face a panel of “a bunch of white guys”. …

    Later in his Tuesday remarks, Biden called on Americans to “change the culture” that dates back centuries and allows pervasive violence against women. “It’s an English jurisprudential culture, a white man’s culture. It’s got to change,” Biden said.’

    Here, reflect on how non-white cultures treat women. In black Africa, for example, a woman counts herself happily married if her husband doesn’t break any bones when he beats her. Gandhi at one point calmly explains that in Hindu culture, a wife is a slave who dances attendance on her husband. Thais routinely sell their daughters into slavery — the European businessman going to Thailand to ‘find’ a wife is actually buying her.

    …and so on. Us mean white people…

    • Replies: @Rosie
  52. Interesting to me, that these Democratic candidates seem unable to figure out that the winning strategy for a Democrat presidential candidate right now is not to create an aura of being all in on this prickly Jewish, feminine, perpetually offended minoritarism.

    Hillary–even as sleazy, incompetent and unpleasant and as she is–was still on track to win the Presidency and–my opinion–lost it with her “deplorables” remark. Basically Hillary–steeped in that milieu–articulated the core Jewish attitude toward the flyover country goyim.

    You would think that candidates who want to win–and even their Jewish advisors who are sharp, and want to go on to their oh so glorious White House career–would steer clear of those rocky shores. But here’s Bernie’s campaign running as “we were too white”. Here’s Biden with the cancel white man’s law stuff.

    I know the argument is that black primary support is critical. But look how well Hillary actually did against Obama. She actually won more primaries, more votes and was within a touch in delegates. And that’s against an actual black guy who became “the black candidate” and got incredible black margins. Or look how well Sanders did in 2016, with Hillary’s huge black margins–stopped essentially because the DNC had the fix in for her. Ok, these are two losers, but in particular circumstances. A fair take is that it will be tough to beat someone who is getting *all* the blacks.

    But the flip side is that i think these pols and aides and advisors steeped in their milieu are really missing that the “good white” base is not enamored by this sort of Jewish petty grievance politics. Yes, there are a lot of true believing fellow travellers–especially narrative complying women–who, pickled in the narrative, have swallowed it whole. But a lot of these good whites are more MLK worshipping “content of their character”, “we’re all in this together” types.

    And this “we’re all in this together” messaging is vastly more appealing to the general electorate. It’s the messaging that doesn’t turn off the 10% flippable independent vote, but in fact is the sort of gauzy feel good messaging they want to hear.

    ~~

    Sanders ought to be running on essentially a socialist version of Trump’s nationalist program. (Rising wages from a closed border and immigration cutback, reign in the banksters and medicare for all.) Call it “Socialist Nationalism”.

    Biden’s tougher for me, because he is a wholly owned Jewish\finance property, so has to comply with their interests. Nonetheless he needs to position himself to run in the general as “workingman’s friend” to take back Trump’s midwestern flips, not as cucky white man\minoritarian loon.

  53. Mr. Anon says:

    “To this day I regret I couldn’t come up with a way to give her the kind of hearing she deserved,”

    Maybe, Joe, if you could have crept right up behind her and grabbed her shoulders, while leaning in to smell her air and whisper sweet-God-knows-whats into her ear, as you’ve done to women (and girls) in any number of swearing-in ceremonies – maybe that would have made it up to her.

  54. Attention All Irish People:

    I know Biden has English and German ancestry, I’m just having fun calling Biden a Leprechaun.

    It’s the kind of thing that would set Biden off, like that guy named Frank in New Hampshire set Biden off decades ago when he asked Leprechaun Joe Biden about Biden’s intelligence level.

  55. snorlax says:
    @Almost Missouri

    The du Ponts are Republican.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  56. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:

    What a fuckin illiterate.

  57. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Detective Club

    What the fuck does he care, living in book deal speaking fees land.

  58. Back To Bashing Globalizer Leprechaun Joe Biden

    Biden was a big backer of the Iraq War debacle.

    Biden pushes nation-wrecking mass legal immigration and amnesty for illegal alien invaders.

    Biden and Teddy Kennedy and Jimmy Carter ramped up the REFUGEE OVERLOAD attack on American sovereignty and cultural cohesion.

    Tweets from 2015:

  59. Leprechaun Lout Joe Biden is a Blarney Boy Bull Shale artist who pushes anti-worker mass legal immigration and illegal immigration.

    Tweets from 2015:

    • Replies: @Anon7
  60. @AnotherDad

    I was thinking of WWBS do, as I read this latest stupidity by Plagiarizing Joe. Sanders has already given up on his solid reasoning that immigration is bad for the people in his party. He’s not nearly as retarded as Joe Biden, but I guess it comes down to winning over principles. Bernie Sanders (and I don’t give a damn about him anyway, his being a Socialist) will most likely say the same kind of stuff as Biden in front of certain audiences. It might be worded a tad less stupidly though.

  61. The Pewitt campaign for president wants to remind you Unz Review mugs that Joe Biden and Bill Clinton are disgusting anti-worker Democrat Party globalizer rats who use the REFUGEE OVERLOAD racket to provide CHEAP LABOR for their corporate and small business donors.

    Biden and Clinton also used the REFUGEE OVERLOAD racket to make sure that housing costs went through the phucking roof in the USA.

    Biden is an enemy of AFFORDABLE FAMILY FORMATION.

    Biden is an enemy of the American people.

    Biden is an enemy of the American family

    Lots of coffee today!

    Tweets from 2014:

  62. Biden may be an opportunistic treasonous coward, but his loyalty is unwavering.

    “Biden in 2007 interview: I am a Zionist…
    Barack Obama’s new running mate praises Israel
    In 2007 interview with ‘Shalom TV’”:

    — ( https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3586542,00.html )

  63. Anon7 says:

    OK, I’ve changed my mind. Maybe Joe is right about that white man’s jurisprudential culture. Who are today’s vibrant thinkers competing with, anyway?

    Author Fonda Lee Decries Barnes & Noble Stocking J.R.R. Tolkien and Robert Jordan Books: We are Competing with ‘Dead Guys’

    Science Fiction and Fantasy author Fonda Lee, the writer of the Green Bone Saga, decried Barnes & Noble for stocking popular fantasy authors J.R.R. Tolkien and Robert Jordan.

    Lee would write on Twitter, “This is what modern fantasy writers are up against. In my local B&N, most authors are lucky to find a copy of their book, super lucky if its face out. There are 3.5 shelves for Tolkien. 1.5 for Jordan. Here’s who we compete against for shelf space: not each other, but dead guys.”

    It’s frustrating to be forced to compete with dead guys! That they are dead white guys just adds insult to injury. Great legal minds going all the way back to the Magna Carta, for chrissakes. Great legal minds going back to Roman times, or even earlier. Dead white guys piled one onto the other. It must feel good to just throw them off and start afresh.

  64. Founding stock Americans need their own country.

  65. lamented his role in the supreme court confirmation hearings that undermined Anita Hill’s credibility

    Even if her credibility were not undermined, what did she accuse Clarence Thomas of doing that was of any significance?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @snorlax
    , @Alden
  66. According to the conventional wisdom at the American Historical Society the English legal system is the second greatest contributor to western civilization (electric power, sanitary running water, the produce section at your local grocery store, the upcoming Rockets-Warriors contest to get to the NBA finals, the internet, &c. &c.) after the Christian religion.

    Here is a book that he might like to read before he invents his next stupid gaffe:

    The History of English Law Before the Time of Edward I (Volume I and II)
    by Frederick Pollock, Frederic William Maitland

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/609300.The_History_of_English_Law_Before_the_Time_of_Edward_I

    • Replies: @Jack D
  67. Could this be the Unz Review Pinsen? Ann Coulter re-Tweeted him.

    My opinion: Biden is a bald bastard of the worst sort.

  68. Neoconned says:
    @Almost Missouri

    Biden has always been a walking gaffe.

  69. It is a topic Biden knows well. As a senator, he introduced the Violence Against Women Act in 1990.

    Damn, I realised it was pervasive. I didn’t know it was compulsory.

    • LOL: Buffalo Joe
    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
  70. OT
    “Cold dead hands”

    Man wanted after guns found at Christchurch home dies during standoff with police

    Police say a 54-year-old man is dead after a overnight standoff with police, following the discovery of guns at a property.

    …Police Commissioner Mike Bush said a search warrant was issued yesterday at a St Martins address where police found a number of firearms.

    Police located the man inside a stopped vehicle in the Richmond Park area about 12.30am today, but he refused to get out of his vehicle.

    About 3.40am, police approached the vehicle and found that the man was critically injured with what looked to be a stab wound

    Members of the public reported hearing gunshots, but police said that was the sound of gas canisters being deployed.

  71. Ragno says:

    I wouldn’t worry too much about Joe Biden. Fogey candidates who end up on the ballot because it’s my turn to rule the world, dammit! – ie, Mondale, Bush I, Dole, Kerry, McCain, Hillary – don’t win. And the Evil Party, who struck gold with virtual unknowns like Carter, Clinton, and Obama, can at least take a hint, and adjust accordingly.

    The Stupid Party, on the other hand, never learns. They were perfectly content to tether the ship of state to yet another Bush when Trump swept through GOP parlor politics like a twister through an outhouse – and how did they react? Well, the ones who didn’t openly endorse Clinton in a show of donor-directed petulance encouraged the clusterfuck of the past three years via a NeverTrump ‘movement’ that practically defines low-t political cowardice.

    This will prove to be the reason why the next five years, following Pres Trump’s re-election, will play out no differently than the past three. The dark eminences of the Evil Party understand that Trump is like a weather anomaly; but once he blows over, he will take with him whatever balls and brass and authority to govern that the pathetic Republicans possess. All the Blue Ghouls hungry to feed on the great American carcass need do is shriek daily through their media proxies for just a few more years….. and wait. They will encounter no meaningful resistance from the Paul Ryans of the neutered opposition.

  72. Fine. Anglo-Saxon law in America should only apply to Anglo-Saxons. Third-worlders in America, who commit the vast majority of crime intramurally, so to speak, should work out their own justice system for themselves. In the exceedingly rare instance where an Anglo-Saxon commits a crime against an African, for example, some protocol will have to be worked out in advance, along the the lines of conflicts jurisprudence. I’m down with this.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  73. @AnotherDad

    But a lot of these good whites are more MLK worshipping “content of their character”, “we’re all in this together” types.

    Boomers are. They’re not targeting boomers. They’re targeting younger women. Those women repeat whatever the most prestigious school they know is teaching. Those schools are teaching that content of their character is racist.

    All in this together is for people who are tired of fighting/scared of those teachers and their mobs.

    • Replies: @Abe
  74. Black woman accuses black man of harassment – but of course the real problem is white man’s culture!

  75. Jack D says:
    @AnotherDad

    1. The demographics (especially for Dem primaries) keep getting worse and worse as whites abandon the party and the country becomes less white in general. So what (almost) worked for Hillary in 2008 isn’t going to work the same in 2020.

    2. The “black people are being mistreated by legal system” and “I love diversity and want to have lots of minorities on my campaign staff” lines currently being pushed by white candidates are not JUST so that they can give themselves some hope of getting minorities to vote for them (although that’s a major consideration – see #1). Rather, these are things that goodwhites ALSO believe. Joe is not an elegant speaker and puts his foot in his mouth so when he tries to say these things they come out sounding stupid, but fundamentally he believes the same things as goodwhites – he IS a goodwhite. I think you are wrong about goodwhites being alienated from what you call “Jewish” policies (this makes you sound like a Nazi, BTW). Goodwhites and Jews are as close as lips and teeth. Goodwhites ARE Jews or are married to Jews or their best friends and colleagues are Jewish. There is no daylight between them. In fact, what you call “Jewish” policies are in reality goodwhite policies. De Blasio ain’t Jewish, Morris Dees ain’t Jewish, Hillary ain’t Jewish, Pelosi ain’t Jewish, Elizabeth Warren ain’t Jewish, etc.

    3. You may be right that this is a trap for any Dem candidate in that they will end up in the same place as Hillary in the general election – by proclaiming their love for minorities, they will alienate badwhites and lose the general. BUT, Obama didn’t have this problem. He was (merely by breathing) an advocate for diversity and badwhites in purple states had no problem voting for him. In any case, before you can pivot to the center, you FIRST have to get the Dem nomination – the old white guy candidates understand that this is Job #1 – they will deal with the badwhites later but there will be nothing to deal with unless they can get the nomination 1st.

  76. Svigor says:

    I can get behind this who-whom? thing.

    Joe Biden is a White Uncle Tom, and therefore has to go.

    Jussie Smollett is black, Jewish, and gay, and therefore belongs in no polity or coalition or nation with me.

    See? Easy.

  77. Svigor says:
    @Jack D

    I think you are wrong about goodwhites being alienated from what you call “Jewish” policies (this makes you sound like a Nazi, BTW). Goodwhites and Jews are as close as lips and teeth.

    Uh-huh. Which one has the ethnostate, the diaspora that gives it insane amounts of support but browbeats the other never to have an inkling of any of it for themselves – lips or teeth? (Israeli policies make Jews look like Nazis, btw)

  78. I’ve taught business law and related subjects in both Europe and the United States and I’ve been waiting for this confirmation of something that I’ve suspected would happen: the repudiation of the English common law tradition in the U.S. If I get back into teaching in the U.S. I would tell students that the jurisprudence in forty-nine U.S. states in based on the common law of England. (Louisiana is based on the Code Napoleon–a civil law jurisdiction.) But that is likely the change as the U.S. population becomes progressively less European-origin. It is also likely to change as more non-European origin people, and even European-origin women, go on the bench and into the legislatures. So the “business law” world of 2019 may bear little resemblance to the business law world of 2039. Increasing reliance on the civil law wouldn’t be a disaster; continental Europe was a reasonably well-governed place until recently. But I wonder how people from Asia or Africa, which have quite different legal traditions when they have them at all, will respond to a legal system that had many of its origins in late-medieval and early modern England. My prediction is that they won’t adapt and will seek to change the system in ways that are difficult to predict.

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    , @Ed
  79. songbird says:

    I look forward to the day when we will resort to seeking out the witch-doctor with the best reputation for hexes, like they do in Zimbabwe. They are more effective than you’d think, when it comes to the redress of grievances.

    • Replies: @njguy73
  80. Jack D says:
    @AnotherDad

    Sanders ought to be running on essentially a socialist version of Trump’s nationalist program. (Rising wages from a closed border and immigration cutback, reign in the banksters and medicare for all.) Call it “Socialist Nationalism”.

    LOL, first you run down the Jews, then you expect a Jew to be your wet dream fantasy candidate – an election contest between a national socialist and social nationalist – I win either way!

    Maybe there was once a time in America where a leftist populist Huey Long/Father Coughlin could have won national office on a pro-working man, anti-Jew banker platform that would have been appealing to lunch bucket whites (and even blacks) but that time has passed. There aren’t enough guys with lunch buckets left and the voters that we do have have other priorities. A lot of them are lady teachers and other government workers – more immigrants means more work for them. Hillary was very unlucky – despite winning the popular vote, there were just enough lunch bucket guys in key states left to swing things, but you can’t (especially as a Dem) expect to gain the nomination, let alone win the election, on a lunch bucket agenda in 2020. Not gonna happen except in your fantasy. You have to deal with the America that we actually have today, not the one that we had 60 years ago or the one that you wish that we had, where everyone thinks like you.

    • Replies: @Alden
  81. LarryS says:

    I wonder if dropping the charges on Jussie Smollett was payback for Trump’s vindication?

  82. @Hibernian

    Meagher has a nice statue outside the Montana State Capital. I’m sure the native Americans would like to tear it down.

  83. @Jack D

    Hillary made the calculation to NOT repeat 2008 and instead go after the Obama coalition.

    I think she could’ve won the nomination anyway if she had tried to reinstate the Bill Clinton coalition. Bill was proud that the white hill people in Arkansas supported him to the veey end. Hillary could have exploited being the wife of the world’s most famous hillbilly, which would have been better with white rural voters in the Midwest. Or she could have realized that she shouldn’t take the Midwest for granted.

    The DNC putting the 2020 convention in Milwaukee is a clear admission that Hillary’s 2016 campaign strategy was wrong.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Art Deco
  84. Tiny Duck says:
    @AnotherDad

    Wrong

    Young educated white men want to be allies

    • Replies: @fish
  85. Jack D says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    By historical and objective standards, nothing of significance. But by MeToo standards, capital offenses. Remember that nowadays a stray shoulder touch, an inappropriate joke, ANYTHING that you say to a woman (you compliment her clothes, you say her name wrong) can torpedo your career if you are a male and they want an excuse to get rid of you. By those standards, what Thomas allegedly did was unpardonable “sexual harassment”.

  86. Old Prude says:
    @AnotherDad

    Obama had some election guru, I think it was David Axlerod, whose talent was making a black man appealing to whites. Obama would give a speech, and I would think “That’s exactly what people want to hear.” Of course he didn’t mean a word of it. (One can say the same thing about Trump). All it will take is for an Axlerod to get a Dem to turn down the crazy, turn up the nicey-nicey and they’ll be in.

    I’d like to think the rest of us might find some fire-brand who will turn up the justified outrage so we stand a chance. A fire-brand, not a bullsh***er.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  87. Svigor says:
    @Jack D

    Goodwhites and Jews are as close as lips and teeth.


    The constant striving to get one’s group off the hook for anything and everything no matter what isn’t White. It’s very Jewish.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    , @Daniel H
  88. Jack D says:
    @Paleo Liberal

    The DNC is one thing and the winning primary candidate is another. So far all signs point to a race to the Left on the part of the candidates at least for the primary season. Trump is polarizing and so Dems are being propelled to the opposite pole.

    DNC is not run by idiots. Of course they are not going to make the exact same mistakes as Hillary in 2016. They are going to make lots of noises about supporting workers, about health care for workers, higher minimum wage for workers, more leave for workers, etc. There are going to be LOTS of campaign rallies in Ohio.

    BUT, the are going to be constrained in what they can say – NO WAY can they oppose immigration, not even Bernie who did last time. The best that they will be able to do is to keep changing the subject. Expect to hear a LOT about healthcare and other subjects that poll well with working class whites.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    , @istevefan
  89. @Almost Missouri

    You have nutshelled Biden’s dilemma quite nicely. A doddering, groping Biden in the White House while the venomous beast Stacy Abrams creates a Cheneyesque executive branch empire and ramps up the domestic war against whites seems like a nightmare too good to be true.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  90. snorlax says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    Not to mention that this is another example of liberal Big Lie revisionist history — Biden ran the Hill hearings in a hyperpartisan manner and did everything he could to carry water for Hill.

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
  91. OT:
    “Meanwhile in Copenhagen, capital of Denmark” the “nation of immigrants” model continues to be applied. Hey, at least she’s making her speech in English. Chalk up another win for the Anglosphere!

  92. @Jack D

    “DNC is not run by idiots.”

    Perhaps. But what is beyond doubt is the Democratic Party’s mental illness.

    • Replies: @fish
  93. Anon[427] • Disclaimer says:

    I’m not saying Stalin was a great guy or anything, but at least he wasn’t English. Know what I’m saying?

    Huh? Honestly sometimes Steve’s double, triple sarcasm just gives me a headache. What are you trying to say Steve, spit it out for crying out loud.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  94. Anon[427] • Disclaimer says:

    I’m waiting for all the skeletons to fall out of creepy Uncle Joe’s closet.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  95. @Arclight

    It could also be that internal Democratic Party polls are showing that black support is wavering.

    Gotta keep them on the plantation!

  96. @Cagey Beast

    + ∞

    JQ people are just advertising their middle- (or lower) class standing. Anyone who has spent any time at all around our present ruling class knows that the goy (especially the soy goy) are every bit as messed up as the Jews.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @ben tillman
  97. Art Deco says:
    @Paleo Liberal

    Hillary could have exploited being the wife of the world’s most famous hillbilly,

    She wasn’t.

    Roger Clinton was drunk, and a mean one; Virginia Dell Cassidy a good-natured vulgarian. However, she was a skilled worker (nurse-anaesthetist) and her husband worked in the Clinton family’s clutch of businesses (car dealership, auto parts store, etc). They lived in town in this handsome piece of real estate.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=clinton+home+hot+springs+ark&client=firefox-b-1-d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj4g4m93qLhAhUFGt8KHfC2D8kQ_AUIDigB&biw=1304&bih=672#imgrc=0qL3FEa-xkukQM:

    Hot Springs, Ark. at the time had a population approaching 30,000. It’s located some distance from the Ozarks.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
  98. @snorlax

    So was Biden, formerly.

    • Replies: @snorlax
  99. Art Deco says:
    @Anon

    There aren’t any skeletons, because the family’s so brazen. Have you ever known anyone as grotesque as Hunter Biden?

  100. jon says:
    @James Speaks

    Is the a verb in there perchance?

    enforce

    • Replies: @James Speaks
  101. Art Deco says:
    @SunBakedSuburb

    Stacy Abrams creates a Cheneyesque executive branch empire

    There was no Cheneyesque executive branch empire.

  102. AndrewR says:
    @El Dato

    Amazed Sailer let this through. Typically he censored much more mild non-pacifist comments

    • Replies: @El Dato
  103. Art Deco says:
    @Old Prude

    I think you mean David Plouffe.

  104. Art Deco says:
    @HunInTheSun

    Third-worlders in America, who commit the vast majority of crime intramurally, so to speak,

    They don’t. Blacks and Puerto Ricans have elevated rates of perpetration, but the proportions are well short of ‘the vast majority’.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @MartinGale
  105. @The Alarmist

    Oh boyo, Kinnock is a Welshman.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  106. Anon7 says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    Globalists are all on the same page. See this interactive page at the Century Initiative, a group that seeks to increase Canada’s population from its current 33 million to 100 million by the end of the Century.

    https://www.centuryinitiative.ca/3scenarios/

    Guess how they plan to do it.

    If a 3x increase is good for Canada, it must be good for us. So I guess the globalist goal for the United States is 1,000,000,000 that’s one billion people by 2100.

  107. Biden lamented his role in the supreme court confirmation hearings that undermined Anita Hill’s credibility and that violence against women was part of “White Man’s Culture,” but the hearing was about a black guy hitting on and telling crude jokes to a black woman.

  108. indocon says:

    Joe Biden has got to be the dumbest white guy ever born. For being a foreign policy genius, he was the ONLY senator to vote against the first gulf war and for the second. Even Forest Gump could have figured one of them out.

    He will melt once the heat of summer starts. Beto is the one that still scares me. Is there a blackface picture of him hanging out somewhere?

  109. Art Deco says:
    @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    I don’t think there have been any freemasons on the court since about 1975.

    • Replies: @James Speaks
    , @Jack D
  110. @Art Deco

    Hot Springs is in the Oachitaus. Still the hills. And, Bill lived in Fayetteville for a number of years, which is in the Ozarks. He had relatives all over Hot Springs, and some in the Ozarks.

    I lived in the Ozarks for a while. I knew Clinton and I knew some of his extended family, who were born and raised in the Ozarks.

    But perception is often more important than reality.

    The perception with the voters was that Clinton was a white trash hillbilly.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  111. wpic says:
    @Mr. Anon

    anyone familiar with Talmidic law?

  112. @Almost Missouri

    Yup, I couldn’t believe how dumb he is. Despite having been told, and believed it for decades he has exceeded my very high expectations of dickheadness.

  113. @Art Deco

    I don’t think there have been any freemasons on the court since about 1975.

    Correct

    We all became neo-Illuminata (feminine b/c gender equality) and practice Hindruidism.

  114. LondonBob says:
    @jim jones

    I was also talking to a Malaysian Chinese student studying law at Bristol because they also have English common law a few weeks ago.

    Biden knows he needs to lock down that black vote, strongest favourables of all the candidates currently.

    • Agree: jim jones
  115. @Svigor

    And yet, if you are from a Yankee and/or republican Dissenter background, you are doing the same thing. If people who “name the Jew” want to be taken seriously, they’re going to have to recognize the Roundhead provenance of Americanism. Before there was Trotsky’s permanent revolution, there was Oliver Cromwell’s. America was founded by such people and they welcomed in wave after wave of new dissenters and failed revolutionaries from the British Isles and the rest of Europe. Their descendants are the WASP, Scandinavian, German, Irish and Italian “Goodwhites” being discussed.

    If the United States was filled with Czarists — or was “an ultramontaine hermit kingdom” like Quebec seventy years ago — then you’d have a point to blame any radicalism on the Jews. It isn’t though and never has been.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    , @Bill Jones
  116. istevefan says:

    Later in his Tuesday remarks, Biden called on Americans to “change the culture” that dates back centuries and allows pervasive violence against women. “It’s an English jurisprudential culture, a white man’s culture. It’s got to change,” Biden said.

    Maybe Biden would suggest we adopt sharia jurisprudential culture instead.

  117. istevefan says:

    Later in his Tuesday remarks, Biden called on Americans to “change the culture” that dates back centuries and allows pervasive violence against women. “It’s an English jurisprudential culture, a white man’s culture. It’s got to change,” Biden said.

    Maybe Biden would suggest we adopt sharia jurisprudential culture instead.

    PS. I think this comment might have posted twice.

  118. Now listen here. I’ll tell yew whut

    All them imported immigrants we brung in from foreign countries outside of the USA – they are all natural conservatives.

    Family values cain’t stop at a border that we’ve abolished, or somethin’

    Mah buddy Karl told me to keep sayin’ that, so ah do.

  119. @Diversity Heretic

    I would much prefer a civil law system myself. English common law is a system that is tailor-made to be exploited by big personalities looking to make a name for themselves.

    Nowhere in the world is the legal system more of a “thing” than it is in America. There is big money to made there. This is what all the slick college Chads and high-status thotties want to do, those who don’t go to a Wall Street firm or a sports management agency, that is. Consequently and inevitably, our legal system is a complete circus. It’s all about sex and money and fame and getting connected. This is the perfect stage for SJWs to strut their stuff on. Our legal system—this beloved Anglo-Saxon tradition—is one of the main reasons we even have a victim grievance industry to begin with.

    I do not get the impression that the cool kids in civil law countries view being a lawyer as a hip, happenin’ career the same way that American kids do. The legal systems as a whole seem like far less of a soap opera there and more of an actual juridical process. Nothing is perfect, but in the balance the civil law seems a lot more sober and serious to me, and somewhat less amenable to becoming the vehicle of social-climbing egos.

    On the theoretical side, I have to admit that I’ve never really agreed with the principle of stare decisis, anyway. Why should judicial precedent have anything to do with a current case when, in the nonce, the facts and circumstances of the cases are different? It doesn’t make any sense to me. It leads only to an endlessly ramifying body of case law that requires more and more lawyers to sort out, creates more and more opportunities for chiseling, and finally results in a degenerate state of affairs much like we have today wherein, due to the impossibility of reconciling the formal demands of the legal process with the limits of human capabilities, everything ends up getting settled by plea bargaining, side deals, influence peddling, and special pleading. The vast majority of cases are never really adjudicated at all; they just get pencil-whipped through the alimentary canal of the courts, leaving both victim and perpetrator to pick up the pieces as best they can.

    Any legal system which is in practice as thoroughly unworkable as ours must be fundamentally flawed. This is one instance where the defenders of heritage America have it wrong.

    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
  120. fish says:
    @IHTG

    Biden has also said the US becoming majority non-white is great and desirable.

    Remember………Shotgun Joe has a Democrat Primary to win! I imagine he will dial back the racial rhetoric and return to just being mildly pervy “Uncle Joe” if he’s successful!

  121. @Henry's Cat

    Reminds me of Groucho’s line,”Let us enjoy the sex act…before congress repeals it.”

  122. Abe says:
    @Desiderius

    They’re targeting younger women. Those women repeat whatever the most prestigious school they know is teaching.

    AnotherDad has lately been pushing his separation manifesto- ‘Dad, given what I take is your probable age, aren’t you and Mrs. Dad on some sort of medication by now? I am, and would last maybe a year if my RX supply were cut. My wife, maybe 2 months tops. Thus I am not raring to go down the road of full bore India/Pakistan-style partition and all its attendant chaos (particularly to medical services), especially as the outcome (Red State/Blue State separatism) might prove so nugatory. Assuming you ever got your Red State/anti-SJW America, what prevents a burn-off of 10-15% of each generation from going down the SJW road again? And since SJW-ism correlates with empathic capacity, which correlates with IQ, this is the natural elite of your new country we’re talking about (all the little Lisa Simpsons with the talent to do all the nice things that make high IQ white societies so, well, nice).

    I think there is no getting around the need for a kulturekampf at some point. A conservative, nationalist, high IQ high culture is possible (cf. Han China, 2nd Reich Germany), so why not start by taking back the cultural institutions? My only partially tongue-in-check suggestion is to use all these super-aggro, often super-rightwing late onset M2F trannies as our shock troops- let them loose on the college admin structure where they’ll wipe the floor with the current lesbian ol’ girl establishment and so begin the process of reclaiming American cultural institutions for core America. Would love to see Deans Pritzker and Jenner institute a back to the 50’s/back to coeds/back to MRS-degrees counter-reformation in the Ivies. “A real woman behaves like…”

  123. Clyde says:
    @South Texas Guy

    Especially agree with you on John”The Vile” McCain. He had been deranged for years….Cancers slowly creep up sometimes.

  124. njguy73 says:
    @Anon7

    If anything, the dead guys should get affirmative action. They’re handicapped by their inability to promote themselves.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  125. @anon

    “nations like that create situations white men couldn’t have imagined back in the day”

    Little know fact about America on the eve of the Revolution in 1770: the black portion of the population was >20% and climbing fast, and that doesn’t count however many non-citizen Indians were milling about. So yes, actually, white men could and did imagine this situation because they were living it every day: a shrinking white majority on a potentially hostile minority underclass. Flash forward a hundred years and the minority is down to a now familiar 12%-13% and shrinking away as it assimilates into the majority. This trend reversal began as soon as Americans began winning the Revolutionary War. (Flash forward another sixty years and the New Dealers pull the plug and send thing back into reverse, but let’s try not to make that mistake again, m’kay?)

    So the good news is we’ve been here before and the tide can be turned.

    The bad news is that last time it took a seven year continental war to do it.

  126. fish says:
    @Cagey Beast

    Yeah……like Hillary wasn’t going to bend over and service whichever corporate entity that needed tax accommodations!

    Somebody should suggest to Michael Moore that his time might be more productively spent by returning to his favorite pastime of molesting “All You Can Eat” buffets!

  127. njguy73 says:
    @songbird

    Support witch doctors. Voodoo doesn’t hex, people do.

    A doll-weilding society is a polite society.

  128. @Tiny Duck

    White females aren’t increasingly dating males of color. It’s non-white women who increasingly acquire white males. Non-white male celibacy is actually rising.

  129. istevefan says:
    @Jack D

    DNC is not run by idiots. Of course they are not going to make the exact same mistakes as Hillary in 2016. They are going to make lots of noises about supporting workers, about health care for workers, higher minimum wage for workers, more leave for workers, etc. There are going to be LOTS of campaign rallies in Ohio.

    They don’t even have to have rallies in Ohio. All they need to do, assuming every other state votes the same way it did in 2016, is win Michigan and Pennsylvania. If they can overcome a 10K vote deficit in MI and a 45K one in PA, they win, assuming every other state votes the same as in 2016. Given the huge, democrat, black voter mills of Detroit and Philly, I would be surprised if they don’t take those states back.

    The only Hillary states that might not hold are MN where she won by 10K, and NH where it appears voter fraud gave it to the dems by a razor margin. If Trump loses MI and PA, but takes NH, he still wins. But I not bet that he will gain either MN or NH.

    With the democrats now being openly anti-White, and appearing to come off the rails on all fronts, the GOP should be mopping up with the White vote. But I don’t think tax cuts and recognizing the Golan Heights are going to be big with White voters in the Great Lakes states. I really can’t believe the GOP is this dense. It has to be deliberate.

  130. Every time I see Joe Biden or hear him speak, I think of Ted Baxter, the news anchor on the Mary Tyler Moore show.

  131. Rosie says:
    @Colin Wright

    Here, reflect on how non-white cultures treat women. In black Africa, for example, a woman counts herself happily married if her husband doesn’t break any bones when he beats her. Gandhi at one point calmly explains that in Hindu culture, a wife is a slave who dances attendance on her husband. Thais routinely sell their daughters into slavery — the European businessman going to Thailand to ‘find’ a wife is actually buying her.

    White women are well aware that our men, on the whole, are the most gracious gentlemen in the world and JB is a liar.

    • Replies: @Logan
  132. fish says:
    @Tiny Duck

    Ohs Tinys……..

    We had the talk……wey I told yous dat I dint want you’n blowing dem YT boyz just’n so youn coulds habz allys

    Boy….you belong to Lendsprd

    Lendserp “I be gettin tyred ob yo shenanigans” Splib

  133. istevefan says:
    @Art Deco

    My favorite Biden incident occurred when he was running for president in the democrat primary in the 2008 cycle. Sometime before the primaries he responded to a question about how he, as a Northeastern liberal, could compete against other candidates in the Southern primaries. Joe, the Senator from Delaware, responded with this gem:

    “My state was a slave state. My state is a border state. My state has the eighth-largest black population in the country.”

  134. Jack D says:
    @Paleo Liberal

    Hot Springs didn’t have a hillbilly culture – it had the culture of a corrupt open city resort – let the fun times roll. Gambling, speakeasies, whorhouses, the Mob, etc. – all illegal and yet all practiced openly under the averted gaze of a corrupt local Democrat machine that was in on the action. It was Sodom and Gomorrah. This persisted a little into Bill’s time (the illegal casinos were not closed until 1967) but the US Army took over the city during WWII (lots of hotel rooms) as a center for returning troops and it was never the same after that.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
  135. @Almost Missouri

    The bad news is that last time it took a seven year continental war to do it.

    Civil War II is on the way and there is no way to stop it.

    Michelle Obama just sold ten million units of her autobiography and Timmy Cook and Oprah are pushing Apple TV or some crud.

    Michelle and Oprah are connected to Chicago and Smollett walks, what more proof of the imminent arrival of Civil War II do we need?

    The Chinese just stopped buying Canadian canola, that figures in there somewhere in my Civil War II conjecture!

  136. Tiny Duck says:

    Taking about reigns of terror, especially the ones instigated by red neck type hard right white terrorists, the latest incident being the massacre of innocents in Christchurch-

    One of the myths perpetuated by Fox News and other conservative outlets is that every time a white alt right moron commits an act of terror they are acting as a lone Wolf. This is a lie. There is now a worldwide internet based community of hard right people who through their hate filled writing are inciting violence and grooming young whites into extremism.

    . How many more people are going to be killed before Twitter shuts down these people’s accounts? Or how long is the wait before Microsoft/Google shuts down Unz Review?

    • Replies: @By-tor
  137. Jack D says:
    @simple_pseudonymic_handle

    Isn’t English law overrated? The French, the Germans, etc. managed to create their own western civilizations without benefit of English law.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  138. @Eded

    “ottoman style millet system”

    As you can see, most recently with Jussie justice, it’s already here in a sub rosa way. But as Steve makes a rational case for all cross-racial crimes to have heightened penalties, and Presidential candidates openly call for formally abolishing equality under the law (while maintaining the engineered equality of outcome), we are about halfway to a full-blown Ottoman-style millet system, which happens to be one of the only multicultural systems that showed any longevity.

    The millet mentality seems to be a deep-seated thing, even among educated inner Hajnalis. Compare the outrage caused by intra-ethnic violence vs. inter-ethnic violence. For example, the Chinese Communist party has routinely oppressed and killed its own Han citizens, but no outsider was much bothered about this tyranny until the ChiComs moved on to oppressing Tibetans and Uighurs. Then suddenly this oppression (which is actually kind of mild by historical standards) is an unbearable global outrage. (Note I’m not defending any of this, just describing it.)

    So if we are headed to a modern millet system, what’s the endgame of that? Well, in the Ottoman case, after a long period of stability—stasis actually—the Ottoman Empire and its millet system imploded in bloody civil war and genocide from which emerged a number of … ethno-states.

    Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose

    • Replies: @bomag
  139. snorlax says:
    @Almost Missouri

    In 1968, 25-year-old Biden briefly “considered” running for office as a John Lindsay-style SJW-leftist Republican in protest of the Dixiecrat governor before settling on the Democrats “in disgust” over candidate Nixon.

    The du Ponts are longtime conservative Republicans. Family patriarch, congressman (1971-7) and governor (1977-85) Pete du Pont seriously considered running against Biden in both 1972 and 1984, and the family spent heavily on behalf of his no hope opponents. Family and corporate donations go overwhelmingly to Republicans.

    So no, not the same thing.

  140. Keep it up Joe . We’re Biden our time .

  141. There is a very dark side to all this. Note: I am making neither a pun nor a dog whistle remark.

    In English common law as practised in this country (case law), the death of an individual carries high penalties. In other cultures, the worth of a life is measured in future earnings capability.

    The shift away from English common law will bring with it a devaulation in the worth of human life.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  142. Jack D says:
    @Art Deco

    I think he means that most black crime is black on black, which is true.

    The Ottoman system had three court systems: one for Muslims, one for non-Muslims, involving Jews and Christians ruling over their respective religious communities, and a “trade court” dealing with commercial and administrative matters, so the idea of separate legal systems is not without precedent.

    • Replies: @Logan
  143. @istevefan

    With the democrats now being openly anti-White, and appearing to come off the rails on all fronts, the GOP should be mopping up with the White vote. But I don’t think tax cuts and recognizing the Golan Heights are going to be big with White voters in the Great Lakes states. I really can’t believe the GOP is this dense. It has to be deliberate.

    AHA!

    ‘Great Lakes states’ is gaining ground on all competitors as a descriptor of that part of the USA!

    Sailer use of such in May of 2016:

    As I mentioned recently, the Washington Post ran a trial balloon claiming that Hillary intended to run in the fall on immigration expansion and gun control.

    Looking at the 2012 electoral college map, that looks even more suicidal than it originally sounded. The Democrats prospered in 2012 by carrying almost all of the heavily wooded Rust Belt Great Lakes states where deer hunting is a big part of the culture, like Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Michigan.

    https://vdare.com/posts/sailer-on-may-6-2016-hillary-s-plan-to-lose-the-deer-hunter-states

    I say ditch the “Rust Belt” crap. People in the Great Lakes states like the GREAT and LAKES, they don’t want no crud about “Rust Belt.”

    • Replies: @istevefan
  144. Jack D says:
    @Art Deco

    No but it’s really amazing how the Freemasons (who along with the Jews figure large in European, especially Russian conspiracy theorizing) don’t register at all in America, even among the traditional anti-Semite crowd on unz. If you say Freemasons, most Americans draw a blank or they think of it as being like the Elks Lodge – just a harmless bunch of guys wearing funny hats and doing secret handshakes that no one joins anymore.

  145. The Dems are doing their very best to give Trump a chance at reelection, but ‘border enforcement’ now consists of processing swarms of fraudulent refugees and letting them go. Would Hillary have been much worse on immigration? I’m not so sure.

    The Dems will hold up their end and trash whites and patriotic Americans at every turn. We need someone to primary Trump from the right and hit him hard on his immigration failures.

    Instead of kissing the Israelis’ asses all the time, DJT should try proposing some of their immigration measures for once. If Dems squawk, tell them you’re doing what Israel does and let them respond to that. The division over Israel in the Dem party and the immigration issue can be synthesized to great effect.

    • Agree: Charles Pewitt
    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Coemgen
  146. Anonymous[440] • Disclaimer says:
    @jim jones

    I was talking to a Malaysian Law student and asked her why she came to London to study, “Because our Legal system is based on British Common Law”

    That sounds like a pragmatic rationale. Doesn’t mean she thinks it is superior to others, or even good.

  147. Jack D says:
    @istevefan

    The Golan is a one day story that will be forgotten in a week, let alone by November 2020. Unlike the anti-Semites of unz, most Americans, even working class whites, have no problem with US support for Israel – they may not be wildly in favor of it (unless they are evangelicals) but it doesn’t grate on them the way it grates on some people here. At worst, they are indifferent to it, and since both major parties have supported it for decades, it’s just not on their radar – it’s not in the TV attack ads, they may not even be aware that it exists or if they are, they think of it the same way as US support for NATO, Korea, Japan, etc.

    I agree that Trump needs to do more to hold onto the working class whites who elected him (and he’s not going to be able to do much with a Democrat House, except make speeches) but distancing himself from Israel is not it. If anything, that would hurt him with his evangelical base.

    The blacks of Philadelphia, who were very excited for Obama (for understandable reasons) were VERY unexcited by Hillary. She held some campaign rallies here in the ghetto and hardly anyone showed up unless they had been bussed in by the Party machine – it was like the rallies that they used to have in Communist countries where the support all had to be astroturfed because there was no real grass roots support left for the creepy old guy (or lady) giving the speech. Nothing is going to excite them again unless it’s another black candidate (from now on, ALL Presidents should be black) but it wouldn’t take much to excite them more than Hillary who barely moved the meter with her fake Negro accent in front of black audiences. If Trump tried that, they’d call him a racist in a NY minute but they had to keep their mouth shut for Hillary. But that doesn’t mean that they liked it.

    • Replies: @istevefan
    , @Old Palo Altan
  148. Old Prude says:
    @Realist

    That should have been AGREE.

    • Replies: @Realist
  149. Daniel H says:
    @Svigor

    You haven’t seen privilege until you’ve seen Jewish privilege.

  150. @Anon

    Georgian:Russian::Irish:English

  151. Jack D says:
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Great RHETORICAL effect, maybe. Since Trump lost the House and did very little when the RINOs controlled it, as a practical matter there is very little he can do between now and the election, especially with everything he does being blocked in the courts.

    See my other comment about kissing the Israelis’ asses. You may not like it but it has zero impact on his electoral chances – if anything it improves them with his evangelical base. He has lots of time on his hands since he can’t really pass any legislation so if he wants to spend it kissing the Israelis’ asses, it’s not going to distract him from what he should really be doing.

    • Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose
  152. @Jack D

    Yeah, except the alternative Biden has in mind is Congolese.

  153. Logan says:
    @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    It is reasonable to note that many of the Founders were Masons. About 1/3 of those who wrote the Constitution, for instance.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  154. Logan says:
    @Jack D

    There were actually 8 or so millets, depending on which period you’re referencing.

  155. Logan says:
    @Rosie

    Back in the late 70s I lived for several years in northern NM. Many of our neighbors were Spanish who had lived in the area for centuries.

    My wife got close to several of the ladies. Without exception, they all confided to her that they wanted their daughters to marry Anglos because they treated their wives so much better.

  156. Jack D says:
    @istevefan

    The other factor, even more than blacks (blacks already vote 100% Dem so it’s hard to get them to vote 110% Dem) are college suburban whites, especially white women. There was a BIG swing in these voters in the 2018 election, that (along with an unfavorable court imposed redistricting map) took out a bunch of suburban R congressmen in swing districts. The Philly suburbs have gone from once being solid R to swing to D.

    A lot of these white college women voted for Trump last time but there has been such massive propaganda to the effect that Trump is anti-woman that it’s going to be hard to get them to vote for him again. I don’t know what it is that Trump needs to do or say to get these college women back but I don’t think that being anti-immigration (or anti-Israel) is really going to be the issue that is going to work on them.

  157. @Jack D

    I think you are wrong about goodwhites being alienated from what you call “Jewish” policies (this makes you sound like a Nazi, BTW).

    Pretty much any sane commentary today makes “you sound like a Nazi”. But i don’t want to invade anyone else’s nation and i’m not interested in putting anyone in camps. (Ok, i confess, there are some people i’d like to put in camps! But it’s not my “program”–i’m naturally kind of a l”nice guy”.) I simply want to live as a regular old white American, in a white American (i.e. Western) culture, with white American norms. Not even picky about who’s on board with me, as along as they can behave as a white American and don’t whine about their “opppression”.

    Granted i say “Jewish” and “Jewish minoritarianism” a bunch. But seems accurate.

    I know we disasgree on this–you’ll say it’s just “leftism”–but this ideology stalking and killing this nation which i call “minoritarianism” (minorities good, majorities evil) is obviously–to me anyway–a Jewish ideology, not just “leftism”.

    I get the impression we’re fairly similarly aged boomers. I can remember the 60s and there was plenty of leftism and it did not have this tenor. Sure you got the Panthers and later the SLA and such and the evil white “power structure”. But even in college in the 70s, leftists were around, but it was not the minoritarian variety ubiquitous today. To me–baring some explanation involving extra-terrestrials–this exists because the Jews finished there long march through the institutions and progressively propagandized this evil\oppressive white majority ideology. For most folks it has infected their brains from the news media and Hollyweird.

    It’s a *very* unnatural ideology for any people, any nation, to hold. The natural ideology is the reverse–the majority thinks it’s cool, special awesome, and any minorities lingering around are expected to conform at least publicly. So if the explanation for it is something other than “the Jews”, the people arguing for that, have to come up a good explantion for why the ideology favored by the Jews (a middle-man minority friendly ideology) just happened to sweep America and from Amercia the West, right when the Jews rose to power … but isn’t actually their ideology or their doing.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @Whiskey
  158. @Jack D

    A manlier stance on enforcing the existing immigration laws and a manlier awareness of the facts on the ground would improve the chances of those with children voting rather than staying home.

  159. @AnotherDad

    Dad, its not leftism.

    It is status signaling that you’re on the globalist team, not the icky nationalist one. And that very much is goodwhites, with goodasians, goodjews, and goodwhateverelse scrambling to play along.

    • Agree: Coemgen, Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @ben tillman
  160. Lurker says:
    @Cagey Beast

    In the Current Year I take ‘cuck’ to mean any white person prostrating themselves before The Other.

    Though yes, it started off more restricted to conservatives (in name only). Leftlibs are cucked at the DNA level.

  161. @Cagey Beast

    And yet, if you are from a Yankee and/or republican Dissenter background, you are doing the same thing. If people who “name the Jew” want to be taken seriously, they’re going to have to recognize the Roundhead provenance of Americanism.

    And then recognize the Jewish provenance of Roundheadism.

  162. And surely it must be one of those blackest of white sins to be against cheating! We must stop preventing people from other cultures from doing what they normally do!

    The Other LA College Cheating Scandal — The One You Might Have Missed

  163. J.Ross says: • Website

    It is a very funny thing that as everybody is chasing after fake Hitlerites that don’t exist, and the police are murdering people in Maryland and New Zealand on the grounds that they might have been extremists when they were alive, you have a prominent figure publicly making the most anti-American statements he can, effectively talking about ending the Constitution. It’s almost as if the entire purpose of the most worshipful Progressive Cult of Hitler was to distract you from real dire threats.

  164. istevefan says:
    @Jack D

    I agree that Trump needs to do more to hold onto the working class whites who elected him (and he’s not going to be able to do much with a Democrat House, except make speeches) but distancing himself from Israel is not it. If anything, that would hurt him with his evangelical base.

    How does support for Israel help a White working class family? He won the White vote in the Great Lakes because of his stance on immigration, trade, economic items like manufacturing and coal, addressing the drug crisis and making health care more affordable. The order of importance may vary with particular voters, but those issues resonated in the Great Lakes.

    Israel is immaterial to these Whites. And the Evangelical base is not going to turn against him because he is only 100 percent for Israel instead of 150 percent for Israel.

    If he runs in 2020 in MI and PA, he will need to show he has delivered something on those aforementioned issues, or he will not get the necessary support to win. I don’t even think those Whites will vote democrat. The likelier outcome is that a portion won’t vote at all. And given his razor thin margins, he can’t afford to lose much. Also keep in mind several thousand of his voters from 2016 will have died by 2020. That sounds like a joke, but I think it is a serious issue. Most newly minted 18-year old voters and new US citizens are going democrat. The death of older voters hurts us more than it does the democrats.

    As for the democrat House, it wasn’t that way for the first two years. He made a huge mistake in allowing Ryan to set the agenda. Keep in mind Ryan, after receiving Trump’s endorsement in his reelection bid, publicly denounced Trump after the Access Hollywood tape, and essentially told people to not vote for Trump.

    Yet Trump won and he clearly carried the GOP to victory in both the House and Senate. By all rights he should have been setting the agenda. Yet he deferred to Ryan and McConnell and not only wasted his first two years, but by doing so ensured the democrats took the House which means he won’t be able to do much now.

    He is in a pickle, but now that the Mueller thing is crumbling he should be able to go nuclear with executive orders. The other side is on the defensive, and he should attack like candidate Trump would have done.

  165. Mr. Grey says:

    wow, what a pandering p.o.s. So much for the working class vote. Not only did anglo-saxon rule of law give us the constitution and a dynamic, functioning country, but also led the fight against slavery. Ironic how all these grievance experts come here from around the world to get educated and become experts on shaming America and it’s traditions. Then we have spineless panders like Uncle Joe willing to say anything to get their vote.

    • Replies: @Peripatetic Commenter
  166. @Jack D

    Lots of truth to that.

    Winthrop Rockefeller the Elder was elected governor in 1966 partly on a campaign that he was too rich to be bribed. He closed down the illegal gambling for good.

    Hot Springs was a haven for the Chicago mob before then.

    Governor Faubus, who really was a hillbilly, was flat broke when he took the governor’s office in 1955. He left office in 1967 and paid cash for a $300,000 mansion in the Ozarks. His salary for those 12 years was $10,000 per year. Do the math.

    The brilliant political scientist Adolph Reed Sr. always offered to pay $1 million for opportunity to serve as governor of Arkansas for one year. He said he would retire to the Careibean afterwards.

    • Replies: @Flip
  167. @Art Deco

    In NYC there are 2.8 million whites, 2 mm Blacks, 2 mm Hispanics, and 1.5 mm Asians. In 2016, the number of homicides for each demo was 11, 233, 120, and 14, respectively. So at least for NYC, the “vibrants” account for about 93% of the homicides, both “intramurally” and overall. But hey: Tacos!

  168. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Logan

    The term is pretty meaningless if it’s not qualified: the Masonry of George Washington was harmless or honorable, and has nothing to do with that of Albert Pike. For some reason the Spanish speaking world is crazy about Freemasonry and it’s one of the few societies allowed to exist on Castro’s Cuba.

    • Replies: @Logan
  169. Coemgen says:
    @Anonymous

    The first world witch doctor casts aspersions.

  170. istevefan says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    I’ve always liked the Great Lakes and was disappointed as a kid to learn of how we had polluted them so much that Lake Erie actually had fires. We also allowed invasive species to decimate the native fish. I think they have been cleaned up a lot since then, so that is good.

    As a geographical feature think how fortunate we are to have such an abundance of fresh water that is navigable and allows for such great commerce and trade. How many nations on earth would give their proverbial left nut for such a natural treasure?

  171. @Desiderius

    Status signaling, or (for purposes of personal gain) signaling compliance with rules established by others?

    This “status signaling” thing always omits any explanation of why sui-genocide conveys status on those who adhere to the idea.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  172. @istevefan

    I agree with just about everything you said, but I will go further.

    I think Trump was a Trojan Horse. It appears he made a deal with the establishment GOP to give them what they want and pay lip service to immigration.

    True, Mrs. Clinton would’ve been worse on immigration. But she would not have pushed through the tax breaks for the rich which really soak contractors like myself.

    I voted for Mrs. Clinton and I have not seen any reason why I would vote for Trump in 2020.

    I expect the usual large numbers of posts critcizing me for my vote.

    All I know is Trump did things on Ryan’s behalf that hurt me and my family. If he had done something to restrict immigration, esp the H1-B visas that drive down my wages, I would feel differently. True, he has done a little on H-1B visas while Mrs. Clinton was in the pocket of Tata Consulting Service. But he hasn’t done the real reform he promised.

    Of course, it is over 1 1/2 years before the next election. At that time, I will revisit whether Trump has actually done anything to make the country better. Then I will cast my swing state vote accordingly.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @bomag
  173. @Jack D

    A president can still take the initiative without control of the House. obama did all sorts of malevolent shit when the GOP had the House. DJT has a pen and a phone, too.

    I don’t have a problem with his policies re:Israel, but we are at the stage when they should establish themselves as allies who aren’t dependents. This would be better for both parties. Israel doesn’t need the $2-4 billion they get every year, so let’s wean them off it. Product development for our military equipment is still useful, but it’s not like we haven’t been in any wars ourselves lately.

    Immigration is the winning issue, let’s not lose sight of that. Much of the talk about Israel on here seems contradictory when it comes to the national question. A country actively trying to preserve its demographic makeup, with a fence to keep out infiltrators that works? That doesn’t give a shit when the UN or anyone else calls them names? Why can’t we have that?

    • Agree: Desiderius
  174. @ben tillman

    Because they’re stuck in 1946 and think their offspring are primed to rule the world and deserve it if they can just prove how woke (aware of the secret knowledge that disqualifies anyone else from ruling) they are.

    Goodwhites (in their minds) are the exclusively above it all arbiters.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
  175. Anon[203] • Disclaimer says:

    I’d be curious to see his poll numbers in the next week. Last time I heard, white liberals were living in safe white enclaves, keeping their kids out of black inner-city schools, and demanding gun control legislation because deep down, they’re scared to death of black crime. I don’t think Biden’s position is a winner with his claim that he’s basically going to avoid prosecuting blacks, which will unleash a wave of black crime against whites.

    I’d don’t think liberal Hispanics want a more crime-ridden society either. They left Mexico not just for jobs, but for a more well-ordered society where drug lords weren’t running wild and gunning down people in the streets.

    If Biden thinks he’s getting the nomination with just black support (they’re only around 20-odd percent of registered Dem voters), he’s about to be surprised. Look for a wave of Democrats to suddenly become registered Independants.

  176. @James Speaks

    Well, he is a kraut, so normally one would look at the end of the sentence for one.

    But in fact there are three here, and the sentence would read better if the semicolons were replaced with colons.

  177. Anon[203] • Disclaimer says:
    @Arclight

    Not a single Dem candidate has polled above 30% with Dem-only voters. The Dems don’t like their own candidates.

    • Replies: @istevefan
  178. @Paleo Liberal

    He became a Trojan horse after the deep state went after his family. The message of the Stone abduction was “Junior is next.” And I mean explicitly through their mouthpieces in the press.

    After that, Trump knuckled under (the shot at Coulter, end of the shutdown) and the dogs were called off.

  179. This is a hindsight reflective comment. I of course supported justice Thomas and thought the testimony of Miss Hill unconvincing, it simply did not make sense and what did was of no import whatsoever.

    But the comments by Vice Pres. Biden makes perfect sense. In light of the kiod gloves that the latest accuser was treated, he is simply saying we should have treated the black women with just as much care and deference. And let’s face it, despite Miss Hill’s discrepencies her position was at least coherent.

    I don’t think it would have changed the outcome. But no one stood as gatekeepers for either of the blacks in question. Justice Thomas faced the matter head on as did Miss Hill, if I recall. No, counselors on hand to treat trauma. No special invitations and hand holding. No consideration to have standings of their peers asking questions to avoid the accusations of unfairness. Just a manipulated black woman and a black man facing the “liberal” lynch mob —

    In which white supporters stood with their fingers crossed. In short VP Biden admits that the black woman was entitled to entitlement status.

    As to the lynch mob — fortunately, Justice Thomas came to his own rescue.

  180. Anon[203] • Disclaimer says:

    Joe Biden: The candidate who made white voters say, “I didn’t leave the Democratic Party, the Party left me,” in their 30s instead of their 50s.

  181. Anonymous[440] • Disclaimer says:
    @Desiderius

    JQ people are just advertising their middle- (or lower) class standing. Anyone who has spent any time at all around our present ruling class knows that the goy (especially the soy goy) are every bit as messed up as the Jews.

    Many American goyim are “messed up,” but who, indeed, has messed them up?

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  182. Tulip says:

    I think its sick that so many people are willing to pick on a guy who is clearly suffering from dementia.

  183. Coemgen says:
    @Tiny Duck

    Titiana Tiny, Over 300,000 nice white boys died fighting to end slavery in the United States.

    Ingrate.

    • Replies: @Coemgen
    , @EliteCommInc.
  184. @Henry's Cat

    Whatever … you still can’t White-Welsh over Uncle Joe’s faux pas.

  185. Coemgen says:
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Instead of kissing the Israelis’ asses

    Trump cannot rely on the “Five Eyes.”

    If I were in Trump’s “shoes,” I’d be kissing Israeli ass too (and gladly).

    • Replies: @Coemgen
    , @Desiderius
  186. Anon[807] • Disclaimer says:

    Joe Biden is not working class. He’s a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Joe Biden would get the crap kicked out of him if he tried his “I hate white people” shtick with the WWC on the docks or in the warehouses.

  187. @Jack D

    It’s simple, Jack: in the USA, at least since the very early days, that’s all that freemasonry is. Harmless high-jinks and pally business buddy-buddydom.
    On the continent it is very different: Grand Orient Freemasonry is the greatest and, sadly, most effective enemy which Christian Europe ever knew. The French Revolution was its first triumph; the First World War its greatest.
    I would have added the destruction of the Catholic Church but for the fact that the tenth-rate Catholic clergy have managed that perfectly well all by themselves.

  188. Coemgen says:
    @Coemgen

    Titiana = Titania

    One of these days, I’ll master the skill of typing.

  189. @Realist

    Real, Could Biden hold another job for as long as he has in industry or business? Term limits the one thing the Founding Fathers missed, but they were farmers and tradesmen, not politicians.

    • Replies: @Realist
  190. Coemgen says:
    @Coemgen

    I forgot to add the disclaimer that I hope that anybody with anything less than the creativity of a shepherd will not understand my comment.

  191. @Jack D

    I don’t mind the support for Israel much either: the Jews are part of our common story, in a way that the Moslems aren’t and never can be.
    Give me people who recognise the beauty of European civilisation and have, indeed, contributed to it, any and every time over those who have no comprehension of beauty even in the abstract, much less when it stares them accusingly in the face.

  192. @James Speaks

    ‘…The shift away from English common law will bring with it a devaulation in the worth of human life.’

    This change is happening in other ways as well.

    We had a great deal of work done on our house back around 2008. The contractor was a Mexican who indiscriminantly employed legals and illegals. One of the illegals got drunk one weekend and fell out of a second-story window (not mine) breaking his arm.

    Everyone thought it was very funny — and of course, more illegals were available right down at the Home Depot parking lot. That aspect of it was a little alarming, if convenient.

    Open borders mean we’ve entered the era of the disposable person. If you break one, get another.

  193. @Old Palo Altan

    ‘I don’t mind the support for Israel much either: the Jews are part of our common story, in a way that the Moslems aren’t and never can be.’

    Now, how and when did that notion get inserted into your set of assumptions, and who did the inserting? It wasn’t true two hundred years ago.

    In any case, I prefer to think that I’ve nothing in common with that vicious little quasi-Nazi state that controls us so expertly. It may appeal to you; it doesn’t to me.

  194. Flip says:
    @Paleo Liberal

    “A politician who is poor is a poor politician.”
    Carlos Hank González (1927-2001), a Mexican politician and businessman.

  195. @Coemgen

    Not another triggered southerner. I like the south as an idea. And I like the myth that the north fought to free slaves.

    But the reality is that the civil war was fought to maintain the union. Now granted slaves did get free by happenstance and there are more whites than blacks that can over whelm the truth regarding the civil war, but had the south not engaged in a violent treasonous act — slaves would not have walked off the plantations to freedom.

    Nearly a million people died because whites in the south couldn’t keep their panties on over the election of another white guy who supported their right by law to own slaves.

    • Replies: @istevefan
    , @Realist
  196. @Anon7

    Anon, tell them to write something people want to read…Duh. JK Rowlings is still alive and just wrote and produced two movies. Those without talent always denigrate those with talent.

  197. Anon[203] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: Baltimore is trying to use Eminent Domain to steal the Preakness Racetrack:

    https://reason.com/volokh/2019/03/26/baltimore-tries-to-use-eminent-domain-to

    When cities go downhill under black leadership, they really do it big. Baltimore may out-Detroit Detroit. This is why blacks should never be allowed to run anything.

  198. @Old Palo Altan

    Then you have no idea where the concepts we have today of law, and math, etc and how they were shaped by Muslim practitioners.

    ——————————-

    Support for Israel is only a problem when it exceeds fairplay and justice. And I am not sure you have noticed, but the classical western notion of equalness as a concept to democratic and justice is not embraced by Jews.

    And I understand this is a big no no around these parts,

    but I certainly support Israel’s right to exist and to self defense, but anyone who thinks Israel is modern Europe or even an enlightened Europe has no clue what western european society is. It is not what Jews have brought to the West. It is what the west has brought to Judaism, which is not really Judaism as it ought to be known. Modern day Israel has not embraced the Torah. In fact the impact of Asyrian, Persian, etc. writing and culture helped give birth to Judaic practice. One cannot be captive by so many other civilizations and not be impacted.

    L’est their hair pulling and an asundry of nonsensical false, misleading accusations and “insane” accusations about why Israel has that right, 1947-1948, UN decision.

    Moses would have punched Dr. Freud in the head, to lknock some sense into him.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Old Palo Altan
  199. I wish that the world was really flat, so when people like Biden try to go farther left they fall off the face of the Earth. Whores and Biden have a lot in common.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
  200. istevefan says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    but had the south not engaged in a violent treasonous act

    How should they have left?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @EliteCommInc.
  201. Biden is a dumb douche.

    He takes ethnomasochism to another level.

  202. By-tor says:
    @Tiny Duck

    ‘Rednecks’ own farms and livestock, repair your car and AC-heating appliances, install power lines and towers, operate and repair heavy machinery, maintain airplanes, and are the ‘class’ of people in the skilled trades and technical schools. I have an idea: Let millions of service sector ‘rednecks’ trade the crops that they harvest, the meat their beef cattle provide, the fishes they catch, and the mechanical services they provide to the liberal-controlled cities for Left-leaning oligarchs’ Facebook accounts, Disney movie tickets, and Twitter access. Do you think that Twitter, CNN, Disney, and Facebook are as necessary as the food you and other bigoted Leftists stuff into your pie holes?

    • Replies: @James Speaks
  203. istevefan says:
    @Anon

    Not a single Dem candidate has polled above 30% with Dem-only voters. The Dems don’t like their own candidates.

    Twenty months from now we will know who won the 2020 election. It does not matter whom the democrats nominate. Their nominee right now in March 2019 is 100 percent guaranteed to carry CA, IL, NY and MA and the 115 electoral votes they carry. So right now in March 2019, the unknown democrat has 42% of the necessary electoral votes needed to win the election. And they won’t have to spend 1 dime or minute campaigning for it.

    In reality you could expand that since we know WA, OR, HI,DC, MD and basically every state Hillary carried will probably go democrat. Only MN and NH could conceivably be lost. Perhaps NV too, but my guess is NV gets more non-white by the week.

    Assuming they carry every state Hillary did, which is not a bad assumption, they just need to flip MI and PA and they win the election. And that is not even considering FL where it will be hard to maintain given the post hurricane influx of Puerto Ricans, the law allowing a million felons to vote and the antics of Broward Country.

    The point is we have to take any democrat seriously. So long as we cannot poach a substantial chunk of the 40 percent of Whites who vote for the democrats, the path to victory is much harder for the GOP.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @AnotherDad
    , @Flip
  204. Ed says:
    @Diversity Heretic

    About two years ago the media punditry had a meltdown when Sessions referred to law enforcement and jurisprudence as being apart of Anglo-American tradition. Evidently the word Anglo is de facto racist.

    Fun times ahead for America. Politically speaking if Biden thinks apologizing for America and apologizing for aspects of his career that weren’t sufficiently woke will win over white working class voters to his side, he’s sadly mistaken.

    • Replies: @istevefan
  205. @Cagey Beast

    a conservative ruling class

    Is there a “conservative ruling class” anywhere in the modern West?

    The oligarchs everywhere are worse than the people, and the royals are worse than the oligarchs.

    The absolute worst SJW nonsense in North America comes from Ontario, founded by the impeccably Tory Johnson family, while the heartland of North American resistance to SJW nonsense (and incidentally also the premier stronghold of populism and low church Christianity within the West) is the American South.

  206. @Eded

    I wonder if western multi-ethnic societies will move towards an ottoman style millet system, where different ethnicities can govern themselves with their own courts.

    You kidding?

    A millet system would be an upgrade. The key aspect of the millet system is that the various minority groups can stay separate in their private activities and govern those themselves. They aren’t going to let us do that, white people minding their own business and not including them drives them nuts.

    In a millet system grave American sins like the Golfocaust or Harvard quotas are complete non-sins–normal. (The expected Harvard quota would be zero.) Much less the vicious crime of “refusing to cake bake”.

    Note, i’m not selling this as a good thing. It’s far, far, far, far inferior to having the freedom of your own nation. The boot is omnipresent–pay your taxes and don’t cause any trouble. But we’ve already got that now. And under a millet system, whites could make their own lives in their own neighborhoods, run their own schools and universities, hire whom they want in their own businesses–all according to white norms–and say\believe what they wish in their white spaces.

    No, they are never going to let us have that. The whole point of minoritarian ideology is “the majority can never be allowed to exclude us”–or more accurately “white gentile majorities can never exclude us”. Even when whites slip to minority status, you know and i know we will not suddenly become “free”. Whites can never be allowed to do their own thing. That’s the whole point. The boot will be stomping forever.

  207. fish says:
    @SunBakedSuburb

    Perhaps. But what is beyond doubt is the Democratic Party’s mental illness.

    Crazy certainly doesn’t mean stupid……even Maxine Waters displays a certain animal cunning…… and hey, she may represent her district more accurately than any other congressperson!

  208. @Anonymous

    So now upper middle class whites have no agency either?

    Your birthright is worth more than that mess of pottage.

  209. Anon[203] • Disclaimer says:

    More OT: Seagram heiress Clare Bronfman faints in court when judge asks her if she’s being secretly represented by Avenatti in the NXIVM case. The answer seems to be yes, and Geragos appears to be representing her too.

    Some people seem to have a get-into-trouble gene.

    • Replies: @istevefan
  210. @eah

    Guarantee that title was by one of Anotherdad’s beloved whites. Chance of (((white))) = 25ish percent. Distinction without a difference.

    Talks Civil War without recognizing the enmity from his brother. Until that is addressed, the parasites on that enmity are a tertiary concern.

  211. Christo says:

    Wow the grinning idiot can pander. Needs to go the way of his son.

  212. @John Gruskos

    Southern university towns are among the worst though.

  213. @jon

    I feel a soliloquy coming on.

  214. @By-tor

    I love it when he spews bile while lamenting our collective spleen.

  215. Anon[203] • Disclaimer says:
    @istevefan

    I’m beginning to think it may be possible to split the vote in liberal states with enough 3rd party candidates. Get as many of them on the ballot as possible, but in liberal states only. Trump voters will turn out to vote in a block for Trump, but make Dems either too disgusted to either turn out for their own side, or lure them away with 3rd party types.

    I think it’s doable. Dems are showing a real lack of enthusiasm for their own candidates, and that’s exploitable.

    • Replies: @istevefan
  216. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @Cagey Beast

    The WASP establishment basically lost political control to the old Democratic coalition which included Irish Catholics and Jews. That’s why you have all these Irish hacks like Biden, Brennan, Hannity, etc., in national public life when in previous eras they would’ve been at best foremen, local police chiefs, union officials, or in city hall in some Democrat machine controlled city. They would not have been allowed anywhere near the levers of national responsibility.

    The WASPs left now tend to be from middle class striver and hillbilly backgrounds, like Hillary and Bill, not establishment ones, or they’re junior partners who have to go with the flow and tone set by the non-WASPs in power. H.W. Bush lost his second term because he angered the Jewish establishment over Israel. Dubya served two terms because he was fully in bed with the neocons.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  217. @Coemgen

    Yeah, Trump’s Israel policy is an attempt to divide and conquer his (principally domestic) opposition. We’ll find out how successful he’s been in 2020. Given how destructive to American interests that opposition is, Trump’s success is America’s on this one.

  218. JohnnyD says:

    I guess Biden forgot that Clarence Thomas is black…

  219. @Anon7

    It’s frustrating to be forced to compete with dead guys!

    Same thing in math and science.

    These dead white a*holes grabbed all the low hanging fruit. If i’d been there–that triangle thingy would be AnotherDadean Theorem. Or you’d learn about AnotherDad’s Laws of Motion. Bastards.

  220. El Dato says:

    Triple offtopic!

    RT is on a roll, these headlines practically write themselves:

    Washington told Ukraine to end probe into George Soros-funded group during 2016 US election – report

    Russia must get out of Venezuela, all options open – Trump (is one of the open “options” building a wall … never mind)

    Deal of the Century, minus one: Is Trump’s peace plan for the Middle East the deletion of Palestine?

    Road to next war begins in Golan

    The end times are near but I bet a “third temple” is not an outcome.

  221. Jack D says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Muslim contributions to the modern West came early (as in 500+ years ago) and end early. They have contributed essentially nothing since the Renaissance, let alone the Industrial Revolution. Jewish contributions are the opposite – they are not players at all until Enlightenment (early 19th century) but after that and continuing to the present day they are major contributors. Israel is not a FULLY Western country but it has a Westernized segment that is as Western as anywhere.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @istevefan
    , @EliteCommInc.
  222. Whiskey says: • Website
    @AnotherDad

    Hating White men comes naturally to White women. See NZ where every White Woman has gone Muslim.

    Hilariously the imam at the mosque in Christchurch blamed Jews and the Mossad for the shooting and wants all Jews expelled or something.

    Women want to submit. Want to surrender. To the most swaggering and violent men possible. One must be willfully blind not to see it.

    White women hate White men… too nice, supportive, lacking violence and danger, too intelligent which is truly repulsive for women. It’s all about feelz and White women are determined to wreck civilization so they can Eat Pray Love. This was foreordained when women became White mens equals and so despised them.

    Look at NZ. No Jews. All women. All surrender.

    Polygamy is very attractive to women while repulsive to men.

  223. The Dems seem to think they have some kind of secret weapon in Biden, because the white working class supposedly ‘relates’ to this hack who was elected to the Senate in 1972 and wallows in the swamp like an old toothless alligator.

    Patriotic/conservative Americans don’t need to ‘relate’ to their elected officials ( see Donald Trump). They don’t need someone who ‘looks like them,’ either, unlike every aggrieved group in the Coalition of the Fringes.

    What patriotic Americans want is someone who thinks like them. Someone who actually loves America and is proud of its people and its history, as quaint as that sounds. Someone who loves Americans, and doesn’t think that just about anyone from anywhere is preferable to their fellow citizens.

    Not so long ago, candidates like this weren’t hard to find. Hell, even Joe used to talk the talk.

  224. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hibernian

    Something like a third of Wellington’s soldiers at Waterloo were Irish. Lots of Irish served in the British military over the years. The Irish are known for being good fighters, soldiers, police, etc.

    But this, and your comment, just support prime noticer’s original point. Having Irish officers and cannon fodder is one thing; putting them in charge is another. It’s like putting the Gurkhas in charge of Her Majesty’s Government just because they’re good soldiers.

    Basically, there was too much social mobility and “elite overproduction” in the post-WW2 US when the Irish and others from blue collar backgrounds were allowed into universities and white collar work en masse. This also had the effect of promoting immigration because the supply of blue collar labor was smaller than what it would have been.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    , @Hibernian
  225. @istevefan

    I’ve always liked the Great Lakes and was disappointed as a kid to learn of how we had polluted them so much that Lake Erie actually had fires. We also allowed invasive species to decimate the native fish. I think they have been cleaned up a lot since then, so that is good.

    As a geographical feature think how fortunate we are to have such an abundance of fresh water that is navigable and allows for such great commerce and trade. How many nations on earth would give their proverbial left nut for such a natural treasure?

    I remember as a kid at Lake Ontario I couldn’t see across it, impressive.

    I see some confusion on the internet about Pennsylvania being a Great Lakes state, but Pennsylvania has a good chunk of the coast of Lake Erie.

    I’ll add in the Mississippi River to the Great Lakes and then give a wave to the heartland crowd that is proud of the center of the USA. I like the Atlantic Coast and the Appalachian Mountains, but the German Americans out in the Great Lakes states and the Upper Mississippi have a nice spot too.

    • Replies: @istevefan
    , @Redneck farmer
  226. Anonymous[151] • Disclaimer says:

    Biden has a “from the mouths of babes” quality to his speech; he tends to put what everybody’s thinking in clear and unambiguous language.

    I don’t get why so many posters on here are so opposed to criminal-justice reform. Look at which way the winds are blowing; we should try to defang this system as much as possible before it gets turned against us.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  227. @EliteCommInc.

    “Then you have no idea where the concepts we have today of law, and math, etc and how they were shaped by Muslim practitioners.”

    One is well aware of all that, and of Andalus, and of this, that and the other. None of it has the slightest relevance to our present predicament, which is the mob of “human shit” (to quote a commentator on Hungarian TV) squatting in our great and beautiful capital cities like Paris, Vienna, and London (which has one as its mayor).

    And who said anything about “equality” as a virtue? Not me.

  228. bomag says:
    @Paleo Liberal

    True, Mrs. Clinton would’ve been worse on immigration. But she would not have pushed through the tax breaks for the rich which really soak contractors like myself.

    Are you paying that much more in taxes that it matters?

    I wouldn’t look for any tax relief from the Democrats now scrambling for political power. I don’t see any Democrat helping you on the issues you discuss here. You’re kind of saying, “Trump hasn’t done enough for the economy or immigration, so I’m voting for the other side.”

  229. Realist says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    The first big mistake….one of the worst…was bring blacks here in the first place. It has cost this country trillions of dollars.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  230. istevefan says:
    @Anon

    That would explain why the media jumped all over Howard ‘Star Bucks’ Schultz when he suggested he was going to make an independent run.

  231. Mark G. says:
    @Jack D

    White females are the swing vote in this country. If they are married they are more likely to vote Republican. Long term, we need to follow government policies that encourage more of them to get married. Currently, we need to let the married ones know that the Democrats want to tax their and their husband’s income so they can transfer it over to the Democrats nonwhite supporters. Since, as you mentioned, the Democrats get almost 100% of the black vote it should be possible to paint them as the nonwhite party. They should avoid extreme hostility to minorities, though, because this kind of thing doesn’t play well with middle class white women. The Republicans could also spend time framing it in terms of letting people keep the money they earn as a matter of fairness and the Democrats as the ones wanting to take it away. The Democrats will try to counter this by saying the Republicans are pro-rich people. The Republicans need to do more to show they are against the wealthy who obtained their wealth through crony capitalism and are for maintaining a large middle class. I think this perception that many of the rich now obtained their wealth through special favors from the government and the Republicans support that kind of thing hurts the Republican party more than anything among middle class and working class whites.

  232. istevefan says:
    @Jack D

    Muslim contributions to the modern West came early (as in 500+ years ago) and end early.

    It also came with a catch. We will conquer your lands and rule over you.

  233. Someone should ask him why he opposes diversity in the White House.

  234. istevefan says:
    @Anon

    I thought women fainting in public was some trope from old tv shows like Perry Mason. I had no idea they did it for real.

  235. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    Anti-Masonry was a big deal in the US in the first half of the 19th century. John Quincy Adams was a member of the Anti-Masonic Party before it merged into the Whig Party. Anti-Masonic ideas and sentiments did persist to a degree into the latter half of the 19th century.

    A big reason anti-Masonry stopped being a big deal was because of mass immigration. Immigrants tended to be Catholics, who were forbidden by the Church from becoming Masons.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  236. Realist says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    Real, Could Biden hold another job for as long as he has in industry or business?

    Of course not. I am not a fan of democracy because idiots elect idiots. I am a strong believer in meritocracy. Democracy has never worked for long. A democratic republic is just a democracy with bells and whistles.

  237. @istevefan

    Assuming they carry every state Hillary did, which is not a bad assumption, they just need to flip MI and PA and they win the election. And that is not even considering FL where it will be hard to maintain given the post hurricane influx of Puerto Ricans, the law allowing a million felons to vote and the antics of Broward Country.

    Good overall analysis istevefan.

    One minor correction. MI and PA are not enough, the Democrats basically need to flip back all three midwest states–MI, PA and WI. I realize some TX electors got goofy, but Trump actually won 306. By the numbers all Trump needed was WI.

    I was not a “Trump’s going to win” guy, but i thought he had a much better chance than the polling. After helping my cousin with the harvest in Iowa, i thought Trump would win Iowa. (Unscientific, but Iowans were not afraid to put up their Trump signs for fear of being bad people.) And i thought he could just hold on here in Florida. (Not that my neighborhood is typical–it most certainly is not!) My math had Trump at 260 and looking around for something–either Wisconsin or Pennsylvannia or the much less likely combination of NV and NH. To me it looked like he had to break through in Wisconsin, which i thought he had a decent shot at but <50%.

    ~~

    The Florida thing is depressing. That felon enfranchisement in particular. People went to the polls and–narrowly–elected the Republicans, yet a fair number of those Republican voters then voted in felon voting making it very hard for Republicans to win again.

    I have a very different view of this. I think the franchise should be drastically narrowed. But beyond that if you are a felon, you've thumbed your nose at–heck, pissed all over–the norms of your society and (most cases) harmed your supposed fellow citizens. These people have absolutely no business being allowed to vote.

    But after 50 years of brainwashing, white people are so cowed about "exclusion"–and of course "racism!"–that they'll roll over and say "sure you mugged us or raped us or robbed us … but hey, you're our fellow citizen and you should have a say too".

    No Republican politician stood up and made the obvious vigorous defence that felons are in fact garbage people who *by their own behavior* have forfeited any right to have any say about how we are governed.

    White really people need to grow a pair.

    • Replies: @istevefan
    , @Dtbb
  238. istevefan says:
    @Ed

    I remember that too.

    “I want to thank every sheriff in America. Since our founding, the independently elected sheriff has been the people’s protector, who keeps law enforcement close to and accountable to people through the elected process,” Sessions told members of the National Sheriffs’ Association during their winter conference in Washington.

    He added: “The office of sheriff is a critical part of the Anglo-American heritage of law enforcement.”

    Organizations such as the NAACP deemed Sessions’s language his latest act of racism. Lawyers, however, have been quick to point to the term’s regular appearance in case law, saying that “Anglo-American law” — also known as common law — is a widely used term in the legal system that refers to the shared legal roots of England and the United States.

  239. istevefan says:
    @AnotherDad

    One minor correction. MI and PA are not enough, the Democrats basically need to flip back all three midwest states–MI, PA and WI. I realize some TX electors got goofy, but Trump actually won 306. By the numbers all Trump needed was WI.

    Nice catch. I forgot about those two electoral votes in TX that went rogue. So basically he can lose MI and PA and still win. My bad.

    But since you bring up WI, that brings us back to the Great Lakes. My guess is if he loses MI and PA, he might also lose WI for similar reasons. On the other hand if his trade policies have made a good difference for workers in those two states, and he carries them, then he probably wins WI too, and might even flip MN which he narrowly lost. Add to that the antics of Rep. Omar, and you might get enough Whites in MN to flip it.

  240. @John Gruskos

    Is there a “conservative ruling class” anywhere in the modern West?

    The countries in the West with militant conservatives in power are in Central and Eastern Europe and also Italy.

    The absolute worst SJW nonsense in North America comes from Ontario, …

    No, northern California beats any other region in North America. Ontario is about average.

    … while the heartland of North American resistance to SJW nonsense […] is the American South.

    I have trouble thinking of any recent examples of this.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  241. @Anonymous

    The Duke of Wellington was himself Irish. Alanbrooke, the Chief of the Imperial General Staff during WW2 was Irish. Your theory is otherwise rock solid.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    , @Anonymous
  242. @istevefan

    Lake Erie actually had fires

    There was one fire on the Cuyahoga River which empties into Lake Erie at Cleveland. The Lake Erie catching fire thing was a bit exaggerated.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuyahoga_River

    In Rochester where Kodak was polluting the Genesee River back then the joke was that you could develop your film by dipping it in the river.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  243. @Almost Missouri

    Ironic,with the Irish bashing going on here,if one of the reasons the rulers opened up so much Irish “immigration” (Irish are not immigrants,they are settlers), was fr the purpose of whitening up Amurica!

    • Agree: Hibernian
  244. istevefan says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    I see some confusion on the internet about Pennsylvania being a Great Lakes state, but Pennsylvania has a good chunk of the coast of Lake Erie.

    Yeah, many don’t consider PA or NY as Great Lake states. As far as this election goes, PA is in play while NY is not. I don’t know enough about PA demographics, but obviously Philly doesn’t dominate to the extent that NYC does in NY, or Chicago does in that other non-competitive Great Lake state, Illinois.

    I guess IN is the only Great Lake state that is a slam dunk for the GOP. They probably win OH too, but they still have to work for it.

    I’m hoping Trump can keep PA, MI, WI, OH and flip MN. But I know it is a tall order. I see he has pivoted to health care. That is probably smart if he really has a plan. If not, it could cost him big.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
  245. Jack D says:
    @Anonymous

    If by WASP you mean old money Harvard-Yale types, then there haven’t been many true WASP Presidents in the last 100 years – there were the Bushes and before that FDR. Everyone in between was either Catholic or small town Midwesterner or other non-elite background. When Baltzell invented the term WASP he meant WEALTHY Anglo-Saxon Protestant (white is redundant – ain’t too many colored Angles or Saxons) who were always a semi-distinct (there was some limited mobility) class who had nothing to do with low class small town prole whites like say Truman.

    The Dems put up Al Smith in 1928 and before that he was the Governor of NY, not the fire chief of Poughkeepsie, so the Irish took over the Party a LONG time ago.

    • Replies: @snorlax
  246. Lot says:
    @istevefan

    It was the Cuyahoga River that caught on fire several times. Like Erie has been safe to swim in for decades.

    Here’s some people enjoying the Erie, PA beach.

    • Replies: @Lot
    , @Desiderius
  247. Jack D says:
    @Anonymous

    There were plenty of white Protestants who were able to, for example, join the KKK in the 1920s (when it was in effect a competitor to the other lodges including the Masons).

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    , @Anonymous
  248. @Realist

    Perhaps,

    that is a counter factual, I am not inclined to tackle. Apparently, it was worth the expense, they earned more than they spent. And that profit for some time supported a young new nation. Bottom line, if I earn from production more than it costs – that’s an investment worth making. And so they did.

    I have no comment on the moral efficacy, intelligence or the hypocrisy of owning humans rooted in a philosophy of “human liberty” and “equality”.

    • Replies: @Realist
  249. Jack D says:
    @istevefan

    How does support for Israel help a White working class family?

    It doesn’t help them much but it doesn’t hurt them much either. Mostly it’s a non-issue to them. Economically $3 billion out of a $4,000 billion budget isn’t even a rounding error. (F00d Stamps cost $102 billion – I have yet to meet a black person in Philadelphia who buys her groceries other than with an Access card.) If you cut all aid to Israel, the annual Federal deficit would be $$776 billion instead of $779 billion.

  250. @Old Palo Altan

    I live in the US. I can only speak to what I understand in Europe as a failure to ensure the people you formally colonized are prepared to be assimilated into your society. And should you import for them for labor, whatever, they earn should enable them to live effectively in your society — that would seem common sense.

    But those comments have nothing to do with the issues I addressed, unless you are referring to those places once referred to as Jewish Ghettos.

    here’s a heads up “equality” of Europe understands and promotes is considered a “western value”. And if one advances western values in the positive, then you are going to include one of most influential eras of early modernity – equality — a western value.

    ———–

    Your claim to be so aware is not reflected in your comments.

    • Replies: @bomag
    , @Old Palo Altan
  251. @istevefan

    How should they have left?

    Sexit.

    This is one area where that the EU handles better than the U.S. Constitution. I blame James Madison.

  252. snorlax says:
    @Jack D

    Carter and Ford are/were WASPs and so is Obama on his mom’s side. Taking the “last 100 years” part literally, so were Coolidge, Harding and Wilson. Trump could based on his background be a WASP (upper-crust Germans are eligible, e.g. Astor, Rockefeller) but it seems he got only the Al Czervik genes and no Judge Smails.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  253. Hibernian says:
    @Anonymous

    The examples I named were a Commodore and two Generals; also some very successful mining entrepreneurs in the Old West were Irish. Social mobility in the US didn’t begin with WW2; think of Cal Coolidge and Herbert Hoover, neither of whom were either Irish or Catholic. Your British Tory point of view doesn’t apply very well to the US.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  254. @Cagey Beast

    Cromwell overturned Longshanks’ 3 centuries old ban on Jews. For money of course.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
  255. snorlax says:
    @Cagey Beast

    Anglo-Irish isn’t what most people think of when you say the word “Irish,” and indeed don’t really fall into the same sociocultural category.

    That said his “too much social mobility” theory is doesn’t pass the laugh test except in the particular that indirectly responsible for all our misery is the post-WWII adoption of “every child goes to college” and “all skilled white-collar work requires a degree” as middle-class norms.

  256. @njguy73

    If anything, the dead guys should get affirmative action. They’re handicapped by their inability to promote themselves.

    Tradition may be defined as an extension of the franchise. Tradition means giving votes to the most obscure of all classes, our ancestors. It is the democracy of the dead. Tradition refuses to submit to the small and arrogant oligarchy of those who merely happen to be walking about.

    GK Chesterton, “The Ethics of Elfland”, in Orthodoxy.

    Chesterton and Tolkien had Elfland, Rome, and CS Lewis in common.

    Chesterton, Tolkien and Lewis in Elfland

    • Replies: @njguy73
  257. @Jack D

    Anti-Freemasonry was mid-19th century.

  258. Meanwhile, the God Umpire decided to turn the White House into temporary shelter for Battered Fake First Ladies of Oil Rich South American Shitholes:

    Watching The Hostage of The Free World and that poor Consuela parroting even more poorly, by some Langley’s angry bird, hatched script is maybe not priceless yet.

    But eventually it will come with a usual sticker shock for the nation.

    How long before eye-mist inducing reports of Maduro’s thugs snatching newborns from the incubator get Ivanka going into another crazed R2P heat?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  259. @simple_pseudonymic_handle

    In Rochester where Kodak was polluting the Genesee River back then the joke was that you could develop your film by dipping it in the river

    .

    Being downriver from Kodak, Xerox, and Bausch & Lomb gave Genesee Beer its unique taste.

  260. Hank Yobo says:
    @John Gruskos

    The absolute worst SJW nonsense in North America comes from Ontario, founded by the impeccably Tory Johnson family

    Please. The Loyalist founders of Ontario were a virtual minority in their own new-found land within a couple of generations. They were soon engulfed by republican-born Americans who simply moved to Upper Canada for cheap land. This caused a lot of headaches during the War of 1812. The 1828 Naturalization Act was designed to ensure that all newcomers take the loyalty oath to George IV and become reliable members of society. The flood of American immigrants continued, however, and two more naturalizations were mandated in 1841 and 1845 after Upper and Lower Canada became a single province. Ontario’s actual “founder” was a Swiss mercenary, Frederick Haldimand, Quebec’s governor, who decided to settle the disbanded loyalist regiments west of Quebec’s last seigneury in 1784. SJWism would probably be viewed as just another pernicious American political disease by Ontario’s earliest pioneers.

    • Agree: Cagey Beast
  261. Jack D says:
    @snorlax

    Both Carter and Ford grew up pretty poor. Ford joined a frat at U. Michigan but he had to wash dishes to pay for his room and board. Does this sound like something a true WASP (Bush) would have done in a million years?

    There are some distinguished Dunhams in the line but by the time you get to Obama’s grandpa the gene pool has reached the shallow end – Grandpa Dunham was a furniture salesman who never exactly set the world on fire. Again not the kind of guy that the Bushes would have socialized with.

  262. @Jack D

    A lot of these white college women voted for Trump last time but there has been such massive propaganda to the effect that Trump is anti-woman that it’s going to be hard to get them to vote for him again. I don’t know what it is that Trump needs to do or say to get these college women back but I don’t think that being anti-immigration (or anti-Israel) is really going to be the issue that is going to work on them.

    No and Yes.

    On Israel, agree. Utterly inconsequencial. Sure, the slavishness tends to annoy any red-blooded male of an intellectual bent–that’s your Unz demo. (Personally, i think it’s overall goodness that the Jews have a state. It would be better if lots of other ethny’s over there–e.g. Kurds, Lebanese Christians, Druze, Alawites, etc. had their own states or statelets with defined borders. Less war.) But the over-arching principle for Americans should be that we do not have to take sides and overly interest ourselves in foreign squabbles.

    The only thing vis-a-vis the women’s vote would be that less intervention and involvement and certainly war would be positive. But nothing directly on Israel pro or con.

    ~~

    My “No” is of course on immigration.

    Immigration is far and away the most salient issue in terms of the quality of Americans lives, but even more so the quality of the nation our children inherit.

    But immigration is an issue that must be explained.

    The “nation of immigrants” nonsense has just been unremitting for 50 years–women are pickled in it by all the media they consume. And on top of that we now get this “oh, look dead baby on the beach” or “child ripped from momma” specifically aimed to turn off women’s frontal cortex and arouse their amygdala.

    A nationalist politician must come out swinging by uncomprimisingly explaining that mass immigration is making their lives worse. I’m not going to repeat my laundry list that i’ve trotted out a dozen times but it starts with employment and wages and runs on through schooling, house prices and affordable family formation, taxes, welfare (and spending left over for natives, ex. medical care) and onto social cohesion, rule-of-law, crime and onto sprawl, traffic congestion and the environment, pollution, open space, habitat loss, even global warming.

    A nationalist has to specifically make the case to women–the globalist scum are stealing the future from your children and grandchildren. In fact, if you want to have your children get married, get jobs, afford a house and actually give you grandchildren! … it must stop!

    The case itself is clear, simple and overwhelming.

    We simply need so effing politicians who are willing to take on global scum frontally and make the case.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  263. @Buffalo Joe

    Take back that slander of innocent prostitutes!

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  264. @Jack D

    The Klan was to some extent an offshoot of the Masons.

    So were the Shriners.

    Those organizations have gone in very different directions.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  265. @Cagey Beast

    Yep.

    SJWism is right now in the fat part of the population distribution, which means it’s rampant all over the south.

  266. @Charles Pewitt

    “The greatest natural transportation system in the world”.

    • Replies: @Flip
  267. @Jack D

    Ohh brother,

    Sure the retraction of empire does diminish what might be considered contribution. But those contribution remain an effective part of our western thought in law, governance, and the sciences.

    It’s a peculiar idea (maybe absurd is a better term) to dismiss foundation principles that impact the way one lives to day. Rouseau, Locke, Augustine, Ghengis Kahn, English Monarchy, the first written complex languages from the african continent, Persian plumbing and endless host of former contributers — dismissing them as contributions because it does not fit my power dynamic philosophy is an indication of serious agenda myopia. Furthermore and more importantly, an entire population claiming ownership of what but a few actually developed is serious flawed rationale. My brother wrote code for NASA. I recognize his talent, glad it’s from my family history. However, I would be hard pressed to credit for his work, even in my families name.

    But in keeping with my position, I won’t stray into the weeds you offer, or might get accused of hijacking a thread already far astray from the article in question.

    Laugh.

    Which as i understand from the article is several fold:

    1. VP Biden is betraying his color because he thinks in retrospect, we should have been gentler with Miss Hill.

    2. Mr. Smollet got special treatment based on his status, though in examining the record, His treatment seems in line with most people who engage in making false claims of crime, if that is in fact what he did.

    3. And as such is cause to remove a tradition that has a very spotty record, especially in reference to blacks, that of innocence before proven guilt.

  268. @Bill Jones

    Yes, Cromwell was bad news. I hope Russian television makes a raunchy and slanderous Netflix series about him, the way they did about Trotsky. Putin has something to say about Cromwell too:

    Secondly, can you tell me what is the big difference between Cromwell and Stalin? There is none. From the point of view of the liberal part of our political establishment, they are both bloody dictators. The former was actually a very cunning man who played a somewhat controversial part in the history of Britain; however, his monument is there, nobody is tearing it down.

    http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/19859#sel=646:1:Vl8,646:64:mr3

    From the Wikipedia article on the statue in question:

    The statue was unveiled on 31 October 1899, followed by a speech on Cromwell by former Prime Minister Lord Rosebery,[14] who was later revealed as the anonymous donor who paid for the statue, and whose wife was the sole heir to the Rothschild’s family fortune.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Oliver_Cromwell,_Westminster

    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
  269. J.Ross says: • Website
    @bored identity

    He did nothing for white South Africans, he did nothing about CIA warmongering, he did nothing about seditious CIA interference in his own administration, he did nothing about the 2018 CIA election that should have been forbidden, but now we have to Panamize Venezuela to certify who’s really in charge.
    I am getting fundraising letters and email from this guy on an almost daily basis and am debating sending an angry reply, although I am certain that nobody will read it.

  270. @istevefan

    Yeah, many don’t consider PA or NY as Great Lake states.

    Pennsylvannia is obviously geographically an “East Coast” state–and JackD’s Philly historically America’s 2nd East Coast megopolis (now passed by giant sucking D.C.).

    But half of it is over the mountains, and economically and culturally more like a midwestern state.

    Now, the state Pennsylvannia most resembles demographically is Ohio. Both heavily urbanized with many urban centers, but plenty of agriculture. Both much whiter than average ~80%, about as black as average ~12%. Both far less Hispanic, less Asian and with fewer immigrants than average, though PA having a couple percent more of each. Very similar places.

    BTW, while i haven’t lived there since 1960, PA seems like a pretty nice place. Prettier countryside than Ohio. As income tax paying states go, i think its rate is a low 3%. While not say Montana, a young white guy could set himself up in Western Pennsylvania and live, i think, a pretty good whitetopia life. (I’d rather live in Montana, but just saying.) Of course, in the end they are coming for you no matter where you are. If white people want to survive we have to fight.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @MBlanc46
  271. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    Nonsense: once we’re Mexico with snow, the wording of the law won’t matter anyway.

  272. njguy73 says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Tradition may be defined as an extension of the franchise. Tradition means giving votes to the most obscure of all classes, our ancestors. It is the democracy of the dead. Tradition refuses to submit to the small and arrogant oligarchy of those who merely happen to be walking about.

    I’m Jewish and a G.K. Chesterton fan. I own copies of Orthodoxy and What’s Wrong With The World. I like how he exposed the follies of his day, follies which are being continued now. Anyone, religious or not, can relate to how Chesterton cut throught the nonsense ideas of his time. My people only endure because we give our dead ancestors a say in how we live.

  273. @James Speaks

    Yes, three of them actually: bears; enforce; ensure.

    The first semi-colon is fine, but the second semi-colon might better have been replaced by a comma, as Old Palo Altan suggests, in order to facilitate the flow of the thought.

    IBut it parses well enough, and makes eminent good sense.

    • Replies: @theo the kraut
  274. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @Cagey Beast

    By Irish, I mean native Irish. Wellington and Alanbrooke were Anglo-Irish i.e. descended from Englishmen who were granted large estates in Ireland.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
  275. @AnotherDad

    Localism is already all the rage. All that needs to happen is to recognize that nationalism is more local than globalism.

  276. @istevefan

    I am not sure.

    But launching a needless war wasn’t a wise choice.

    We do have a process in this country regarding legal challenges that resides in the courts system — the civil suit. Had they followed such a course they might have been reminded that slavery was the law of the land and this president had no intention of changing that law — especially under even a hint of disunion.

    • Replies: @istevefan
  277. Realist says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Apparently, it was worth the expense, they earned more than they spent.

    Apparently??? To who??? How would know that???

    Bottom line, if I earn from production more than it costs – that’s an investment worth making.

    You don’t know that they did. My point was blacks have cost this country trillions since they were freed.

  278. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hibernian

    I’m speaking in general, not about individual cases here and there. Social mobility on a large scale for non-WASPs increased significantly with FDR’s New Deal and the expansion of federal government, and then in the postwar period with the boom in the private economy.

  279. @Old Palo Altan

    correction:

    And if one advances western values in the positive, then you are going to include one of most influential eras of early modernity – equality as part of the enlightenment period — a western value.

  280. @AnotherDad

    I lived for a year in Grove City working at the GE plant there. Great place, great workers. Thought the college was a little fundie, but that just means they were probably right and I was 22. Southern Ohio/West Virginia seems to have given a huge sigh of relief in 2016 and gotten on with life. Double the babies in the extended family in the past three years compared to the previous eight.

  281. @Anonymous

    No Wellington was an aboriginal Irishman: http://www.victorianweb.org/history/pms/bentley.html

    … and Alan Brooke was quite obviously genetically close to another Ulsterman, the actor Ciarán Hinds: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciar%C3%A1n_Hinds .

    Is one of these men Irish while the other was not? “Which one is the Black guy and which one is the White guy in this relationship? Who is the cowboy and who is the Indian?” asks the internet WASP.

    If you don’t like Irish-Americans, fine. Just don’t make up bogus racial theories about other people in order to justify it. I think I’ve had this exchange with internet WASPS on this site about two dozen times over the years.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @snorlax
    , @Anonymous
  282. bomag says:
    @Almost Missouri

    I’m too familiar with the Ottoman system, but modern governance is not at all happy with just collecting taxes and then letting people be; there must be great regulation and follow up on pollution, workplace safety, water usage, racial balance of all kinds, etc.

    I don’t see the modern state stepping back from any of this.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  283. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    What I meant was that mass Catholic immigration resulted in Catholics replacing masons as the major bugbear and object of conspiracy theories. Catholics couldn’t be masons, and thus weren’t associated with them.

  284. bomag says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    should you import for them for labor, whatever they earn should enable them to live effectively in your society

    It’s not so simple. They don’t bring just their labor, they bring a whole suite of traits that redounds far beyond just first order economic effects.

    Consider the thought experiment: an interstellar species lands on earth; said species shows to be ten times more productive than the natives across the board in all metrics. Do you embrace them and turn your society over to them simply on the basis of utilitarian considerations?

    Personnel is policy.

  285. @BenKenobi

    WIDEN FOR BIDEN

    SPLIT FOR MITT? OOZE FOR CRUZ?

    SWALLA FOR KAMALA? BURST IN FOR KERSTIN?

    SQUIZZ FOR LIZ? SNOOKER FOR BOOKER?

    PEDO FOR BETO?

  286. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @Cagey Beast

    They were Anglo-Irish, which is different from native Irish. And I never said I don’t like Irish-Americans.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_of_wellington#Early_life_and_education

    Wellesley was born into an aristocratic Anglo-Irish family in Ireland as The Hon. Arthur Wesley,[2] the third of five surviving sons (fourth otherwise) of Anne and Garret Wesley, 1st Earl of Mornington. His mother was the eldest daughter of The 1st Viscount Dungannon. As such, he belonged to the Protestant Ascendancy.

    Irish nationalists burned down many of the large estates of the Anglo-Irish during 20s:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_Irish_country_houses_(1919%E2%80%931923)

    The destruction of country houses in Ireland was a phenomenon of the Irish revolutionary period (1919–1923), which saw at least 275 country houses deliberately burned down, blown up, or otherwise destroyed by the Irish Republican Army (IRA).[1]

    The vast majority of the houses, known in Ireland as Big Houses, belonged to the Anglo-Irish aristocracy of the Protestant Ascendancy. The houses of some Roman Catholic unionists, suspected informers, and members or supporters of the new Irish Free State government were also targeted. Although the practice by the IRA of destroying country houses began in the Irish War of Independence, most of the buildings were destroyed during the Irish Civil War (1922–23).[2] Today, most of the targeted buildings are in ruins or have been demolished. Some were restored by their owners, albeit often smaller in size, or were later rebuilt and re-purposed.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
  287. @AnotherDad

    I got hit up this morning for bucks by the Sanders campaign via text. I had followed his primary campaign in 2006, & had voted for him as an alternative to Hillary, so I was still on the list. This is what followed:

    Oops, so sorry, but nobody who jumped on the Jussie Smolett Hate Hoax Express, like Bernie, for instance, gets a dime from this Evil White Man.

    Voted for him in the 2006 primaries, but the blinders are now officially, and definitively off. Never again.

    Take me off of this list, please.
    Thank you.

    The reply:

    I’m opting you out of texts immediately. Have a great day.

    My parting shot:

    Good. Let them know how some of us who previously voted for Sen. Sanders feel about this ginned up racial hatred that he became part of with his knee jerk tweet. That is if anybody is even receptive to the views of us inherently evil white gentile crackers, that is. Did that offend your sensibilities? Good, because he sure offended mine by acting to inflame an already combustible situation that was aimed at me, and millions more of my fellow countrymen. Good luck with the “class consciousness” bit when the default is to racial rabble-rousing instead.

    Don’t know if they even read that, but I felt better saying it.

    • Replies: @Dtbb
  288. MBlanc46 says:
    @istevefan

    It was whites who hadn’t been voting that put Trump over. He had to deliver, or at least be seen to be trying to deliver, to keep them on board in 2020.

    • Replies: @istevefan
  289. Laughing.

    Costs of blacks response

    I responded to a comment. That comment is but tangentially linked to the article. I recognize that my response is to that tangential offering. I also recognize that my comments are not “politically correct”. They have triggered many to extent to harbor all manner of vengeance seeking seething desires. So I want to make clear on the outset. In my view the historical record is obvious. Salve owners owned slaves because it was profitable and had it not been in my view, they would have dumped the enterprise.

    I would suggest that the southern slave owners understood basic cost benefit analysis. Obviously owning slaves, breeding humans for the same turned out o be quite a lucrative proposition. Now I have raked over the numbers before here or somewhere else. You doubt it was lucrative, you are welcome to attempt to make that case.

    I have also considered this argument about what blacks have cost. Again compared to the benefit, I don’t think there is ample evidence that blacks have been a financial burden more than a benefit.

    Before you go on about welfare. The history indicates that as far as public policy blacks did not generally benefit from welfare or participate in a public programs of any note until the 1960’s. Those welfare programs were not directed at blacks but available to the population at large. There is no evidence that blacks have been more costly than whites.

    • Replies: @res
  290. MBlanc46 says:
    @AnotherDad

    That last sentence is fundamental. Anyone saying much of anything else is jeopardizing the future of white Americans.

  291. “It’s not so simple. They don’t bring just their labor, they bring a whole suite of traits that redounds far beyond just first order economic effects.”

    It is that simple.

    But I will include your shift of issues from living standards to living ethos. Assimilation is the process by which you incorporate others into your sphere so as inclusion. That means a host of issues. And it is the receiving country that is responsible for making the choices to ensure as much if that is what they desire.

    Nothing in comments suggests that anyone turn anything over to foreigners, quite the opposite, hence the reference — assimilation.

    But to your charge, I don’t think there is an y evidence that immigrants are sitting in positions of leadership or power.

  292. istevefan says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    But what if they still wanted to leave the Union even if the courts sided with them on slavery? Sometimes peoples want to go their separate ways, e.g. the Czechs and Slovaks.

    When the US was formed the 13 colonies each had their own ratification process usually conducted in their legislature. They each voted eventually to adopt. So wouldn’t it make sense that in the future if one or more states wanted to leave, they too would hold a process in their state legislature?

    FYI, here is a list of the states and when they ratified the Constitution. It surprises me that NY barely passed it. And RI rejected in a popular vote only to ratify it in a razor thin legislative vote. I had no idea some of the votes were that close.

  293. istevefan says:
    @MBlanc46

    Yep. I’m concerned they will go back to not voting if they don’t see enough progress.

  294. If the southern states lost in the courts . . .

    If they fail in the courts then they failed. But the question is what other course did they have. I answered that question. The supremacy clause closes the matter of Union supremacy, which is why it was created. The southern states knew this.

    The furthermore the southern states routinely utilized the federal system to resolve issues. If they in fact saw themselves as separate countries, appealing court or other rulings to the supreme court made no sense. The pretense of independent nations was attempted by way the Articles of the Confederation. It proved unworkable – hence the constitution.

    The recourse which they opted to bypass for war moots any discussion of what of

    “What if . . .”

    They voided that by choice.

    “When the US was formed the 13 colonies each had their own ratification process usually conducted in their legislature. They each voted eventually to adopt. So wouldn’t it make sense that in the future if one or more states wanted to leave, they too would hold a process in their state legislature?”

    Once in the system, they would have to abide by the Constitution and legal disputes — settled by changing the law or appealing the matter. The state legislature’s proposal goes to a federal disposition. Unlike the EU, there was no “out” clause.

  295. @bomag

    “there must be great regulation and follow up on pollution, workplace safety, water usage, racial balance of all kinds, etc.”

    Well, how much follow up did modern governance do in prosecuting Jussie just now? Did the government follow up on everything that they evidence for against him, or was it just sort of a case of black perp, black State’s Attorney, whatever, whatever?

    How much follow up on female circumcision has there been? Has the state being micromanaging healthcare there, or just leaving it to the Muslims to sort out?

    Did Minnesota get all up in Ilhan Omar’s grill about her bigamously and incestuously marrying her “brother” or did they just think “well, it’s their culture” and leave it at that?

    Speaking of bigamy, have Western governments been following up much on Muslims polygamously claiming benefits for themselves, or have they de facto recognized polygamy now—but only for Muslims?

    Asian gangs trafficking sex workers and keeping slaves in major metros: is that getting a lot of government follow up? Anybody interested in enforcing the 13th Amendments anymore? Or is sex slavery just kind of an obscure foreign thing (that happens to be downtown right now) that governance would just as well not get involved with, except perhaps as customers—judging by recent news stories?

    It turns out that our normally intrusive governance can be totally relaxed, laid back and copacetic with all kinds of things we used to think of as heinous crimes, so long as they are being performed dusky exotics as part of their unique vibrancy.

    To your point though, yes, even with a millet system the govenment will still enforce all those pollution, workplace safety, water usage, racial balance, etc. laws on you, because that’s the White Man’s law.

    The millet system is white law for whites, black law for blacks, Sharia law for Muslims, Hebrew law for Jews, etc, etc.

  296. @Intelligent Dasein

    The replacement of the common law by the civil law wouldn’t be a tragedy in my opinion. What needs to be reformed is the civil justice system, which is, sadly, mostly as you characterize it. Almost all sophisticated commercial actors insert pre-dispute arbitration clauses in their contracts, mostly to avoid having to deal with the civil justice system. Reform, unfortunately, is generally blocked at the level of state legislatures by a very powerful and influential trial lawyers bar.

  297. snorlax says:
    @Cagey Beast

    23andme doesn’t bother trying to tell Irish DNA apart from British; they’re lumped together in a single category, “British & Irish.” The distinction between the two isn’t genetic, it’s cultural. Regardless of which island his family originated on, Wellesley was culturally a Protestant English aristocrat who had far more in common with his fellow WASPs than with 99% of Irish people.

  298. @Desiderius

    That’s non-responsive.

    Proving that they’re woke means exterminating their own people including, ultimately, themselves. Where does that definition of “woke” come from?

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  299. Anonymous[125] • Disclaimer says:

    This is foolish, weak and desperate. It reminds me of Weinstein announcing he was going to make a big donation to some feminist cause just before the ax fell on him.

  300. @Desiderius

    JQ people are just advertising their middle- (or lower) class standing. Anyone who has spent any time at all around our present ruling class knows that the goy (especially the soy goy) are every bit as messed up as the Jews.

    Middle- and lower-class people don’t know a damn thing about Jews. JQ people are for the most part near the top in social and economic status and at an even higher percentile in intelligence. Part of it is the intelligence, part of it is intellectual confidence, and part of it is the fact that people high in economic and social status and intelligence tend to have 50o times more face-to-face interactions with Jews than do members of the lower class.

    The JQ is the province of the intellectual elite, people who are so accustomed to being smarter than everyone else in the room that they retain the confidence to investigatethe ultimate taboo and accept as true something that is almost unanimously declared to be false. In short, your claim in your first sentence couldn’t be more wrong.

    As for your second sentence, the observation that “the goy (especially the soy goy) are every bit as messed up as the Jews”, offered by itself, is essentially facetious. Why are they “messed up”? Theory says it’s because of the Jews. And so do the facts.

  301. @prime noticer

    You are aware that the English have spent much of the last thousand years invading, conquering, enslaving and exterminating native populations all over the world and stealing their land? That really isn’t much of a tradition to be proud of. One of the great things about Brexit is that it shows how truly incompetent the English are when they don’t have a military way of solving a problem.

    • Troll: AndrewR
  302. Anonymous[125] • Disclaimer says:
    @Paleo Liberal

    Not to mention the Mormons.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
  303. Anonymous[125] • Disclaimer says:
    @Cagey Beast

    That’s nice, but nationalists still blew up Wellington’s statue in Dublin.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
  304. Simon says:
    @WJ

    Well put. Totally agree. I fear that almost any Democrat is likely to beat Trump next year, but for the reasons you outlined — and also because he was Obama’s VP and enjoys high approval among blacks — Biden is the biggest threat of all.

  305. res says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Those welfare programs were not directed at blacks but available to the population at large. There is no evidence that blacks have been more costly than whites.

    https://www.nap.edu/read/9719/chapter/8#167
    Ethnic and Racial Differences in Welfare Receipt in the United States

    Here is a more speculative analysis of net costs:
    https://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/05/11/fiscal-impact-of-whites-blacks-and-hispanics/

  306. @Lot

    It’s the American Blackpool!

    One of Erie’s alloted thirty non-dreary days per annum.

  307. @ben tillman

    It’s not a definition, it’s a description of its function/purpose. If you think the rich and powerful snobs pushing all this woke bullshit are planning to off themselves I’ve got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
  308. @snorlax

    Wellington’s own response when told he was Irish: “Being born in a stable doesn’t make you a horse.”

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
  309. @Anonymous

    Yes and that was the same ethnic group* that provided the leadership of Ireland’s many rebellions. It was also this ethnicity that did so much to preserve and revive the Irish language and study its history. You are giving me an inaccurate thumbnail sketch of my own ethnic group.

    * I say ethnic group because the Irish Protestant yeomanry, gentry and minor nobility spanned several classes.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  310. @Anonymous

    I believe that was Admiral Nelson’s statue.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  311. Realist says:

    Biden Condemns “English Jurisprudential Culture, a White Man’s Culture. It’s Got to Change”

    Like most politicians he’ll suck anything.

  312. @Old Palo Altan

    That was said by Daniel O’Connell about Wellington, rather than by Wellington himself. I found this relatively recent article in the Irish Independent while looking up this quote (yet again) in anticipation of its use here:

    Wellington beat the Tory Ultras. Can Theresa May do the same?’
    Eoghan Harris
    December 9 2018 6:15 PM

    On December 11, Theresa May will face the same challenge the Duke of Wellington faced when he wrote to Archbishop Patrick Curtis on the same date 190 years ago, supporting Catholic emancipation.

    Before dealing with the striking similarity between Wellington’s struggle for Catholic emancipation and Theresa May’s for a soft Brexit, let’s clean off two bits of nationalist graffiti.

    First, Wellington did not deny his Irishness by making the infamous remark about stables and horses. Daniel O’Connell coined that sound bite – subverting his own belief that to be Irish it was enough to be born here.

    Second, far from grudgingly conceding Catholic emancipation, as Irish nationalists claim, Wellington laid his own political career on the line to deliver the Catholic Relief Act on April 12, 1829.

    Long before that, however, Wellington showed he was no bigot, when in 1807 he took over as Chief Secretary for Ireland.

    All he had to do to be popular with his own Protestant caste was to implement largely lapsed penal law provisions.

    Instead he told the leading Catholic aristocrat, Lord Fingall, that he “would administer the laws with mildness and good temper”.
    […]
    they should follow the example of that pragmatic Irish conservative: Wellington.

    Wellington noted, “the Roman Catholic religion in its natural state is not very favourable to civil government in any part of Europe”.

    But it did not stop this great Irishman from doing his duty as he saw it.

    https://www.independent.ie/ca/opinion/comment/eoghan-harris-wellington-beat-the-tory-ultras-can-theresa-may-do-the-same-37607883.html

    Wellington was correct in his positions on both Catholic and Jewish emancipation.

  313. @snorlax

    WASPs are the American haute bourgeoisie who made their money from the Second Industrial Revolution onwards. Shakespeare, for example, was not a WASP and Wellington was most definitely not one either.

  314. @Almost Missouri

    Good comments.

    Victor Davis Hanson also makes this point in his essays on life in California farming country. There’s one law that’s heavy, oppressive, and never relaxed for responsible people who own and operate farms. But if you’re an II who’s fly-tipping or driving without a license or committing any of a myriad other low- to mid-level infractions, you’re ignored.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  315. The costs of blacks are some interesting numbers.

    Without commenting on the formulas (methodology) of calculation,
    percentage of population to use

    in one model it appears as though the revenues were reversed for one group and used as deficits for another – it’s unclear.

    But then military use is not applied by color differentiation and it would be interesting to note how that worked — there is not unique use to military to skin color. One might make that contend if examining use military to address some emergency unique to the population.

    But in neither analytical model are the periods that include when blacks had no or little access to the costs that are claimed.

    Some of this is obvious regardless of proportionality if that proportion is required supplemental income that make up a difference based on population size, it would be accurate that there are not enough blacks employed at the right numbers to compensate for deficits. The entire welfare system is under pressure from fewer payers to recipients.

    But upon examination if one is going by the numbers — those poor whites are the most costly. However, as a buffer for the reparations argument. It’s not Doesn’t matter what I gave you today for today’s conditions when I have to redress having broken your leg yesterday. You actually reinforce the contention by forcing the examination to cause — and if in fact there is data that demonstrates that said today consequence is artificial even after slavery — you have just compounded your problem. You make the case of deficit as direct result of discrimination — tangled web when once . . .

    I would say,

    probably a bad idea to have denied 11% of your population education, work, and access to the benefits of beings citizens. It’s costly. Probably a worse idea to exacerbate the matter over time by importing labor instead of including the labor pool on hand. There are lazy black people just like whites. But one cannot escape the inevitable hurdle of policy and what said policy breeds. Now I mentioned laziness, but there’s a host of descriptors and mechanisms to reinforce those mechanisms. And nothing has been more convenient that the use of criminal policy support the bias. My comments are not excuse criminal behavior.

    Immigration — I am a restrictionist to the point of a moratorium – five years, no cut outs.

    • Replies: @res
  316. @Cagey Beast

    I read Lady Longford’s biography of Wellington’s military career in college:

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/575863.Wellington

    Her account of the climax of the Battle of Waterloo is unmatched (i.e., perhaps it wasn’t quite as thrilling and determinant as she insisted: if Wellington’s line had collapsed under the the Emperor’s Old Guard’s charge, perhaps Blucher’s arriving Prussians would still have caved in the French right flank and saved the day. But Wellington’s army instead hurled back the finest soldiers Napoleon had left, so we’ll never know).

  317. @Cagey Beast

    I believe I went up to the top of Nelson’s Column in both London and Dublin when I was 6 in 1965. I can recall hearing when it was blown up in 1966.

  318. @Steve Sailer

    Yeah and Nelson’s Pillar in Dublin was eventually replaced by modernist, globalist nothingness: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spire_of_Dublin

    That’s the story of our times.

    • Replies: @Vinteuil
  319. @The Last Real Calvinist

    Yes, good point. Adam Carolla makes the same point in a more prole-ish way re LA.

    Many such cases.

  320. @JerseyJeffersonian

    Thanks, I’d like to make it more snappy, but I don’t know how.

    • Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian
  321. @theo the kraut

    Snappiness is overrated, while thoughtful is all too rare. You did well in conveying the latter.

    Es ist wohlgetan.

    JJ

  322. Hank Yobo says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Nelson ‘s Column is still alive and well in Montreal. Unfortunately, one to honor the great Shawnee war chief, Tecumseh, was never built despite being well-subscribed.

    https://artpublicmontreal.ca/en/oeuvre/monument-a-nelson/

  323. @Cagey Beast

    Rosebery’s wife was the heiress of her father’s wealth, not that of the entire Rothschild family. He, Meyer Amschel de Rothschild, left over £2,000,000 when he died in 1874, which I think it would be fair to say was no small sum at the time.

    But thanks for that Putin quote; makes me like him more than ever.

  324. @Cagey Beast

    I am happy to admit that O’Connell is the real source of the quote. But the point of it remains every bit as telling, surely?

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
  325. FPD72 says:
    @The Alarmist

    He didn’t plagiarize King because of the unspoken rule, “Don’t plagiarize a plagiarist.”

  326. @EliteCommInc.

    The victories of the egalitarian principle, the French Revolution and the results of the First World War, led, firstly to the collapse of France as the greatest nation in Europe and, secondly, to the collapse of Europe as the greatest civilisation the world has ever seen.

    “Equality”, then, is hardly a constitutive element of what made Europe great. A “Western value” it is not.

    • Agree: Desiderius
  327. res says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Lots and lots of words saying very little.

    Do you at least admit that your “no evidence” statement was wrong?

  328. @Desiderius

    They’re not planning it, but it’s the inevitable (and easily foreseeable) result.

  329. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @Cagey Beast

    This is not a controversial matter, so I’m not sure why you persist. I’m part Irish Catholic, have traveled extensively in Ireland in recent years, and have read a lot about Ireland and its history.

    Anglo-Irish and Irish Protestant are not and have never been considered native Irish, which is identified with Irish Catholics. Religion was a strong proxy for ethnicity. The Anglo-Irish Protestant Ascendency descended from Englishmen who were granted large estates in Ireland by the English king. This class mainly mixed amongst themselves or with other Brits, and many were absentee landlords who didn’t even live in Ireland but lived in London or somewhere else. The Irish Protestant middle class was a very small, urban, and mercantile minority descended from middle class English, Scots, and Huguenot migrants.

    It’s true that early on, organized revolutionary activity was led by Irish Protestants, but that’s because the literate urban middle class, which engages in this sort of thing, was dominated by Irish Protestants. Furthermore, revolution and republicanism were considered radical ideologies and identified with Protestantism or secularism. The native Irish Catholics were led by the Catholic Church, which was conservative and ill disposed towards revolution and republicanism, especially in light of the French Revolution.

  330. @Old Palo Altan

    The point being that Irish Protestants were not really Irish and that if any of them accomplished anything he was really an Englishman? The point that social classes quite often override national loyalties? That ethnic identity is binary?

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
  331. Flip says:
    @istevefan

    I think that’s why getting rid of the Electoral College could actually benefit Republicans by recovering the Republican votes in places like California and Illinois. My Republican vote in Illinois for president is wasted.

  332. Flip says:
    @Redneck farmer

    French foreign minister Charles Tallyrand to the Americans after selling them Louisiana:

    “You have made a noble bargain for yourselves, and I suppose that you will make the most of it.”

    • Replies: @Flip
  333. @Anonymous

    This is not a controversial matter, so I’m not sure why you persist.

    Because it is my own ethnic group. We no longer really exist in the present but I think we should be allowed to continue to exist in the past.

    The reason you did not see many Irish Protestants — with names like Donnelly or Sweeney — is that they emigrated to places like Canada. My mother’s side of the family came over in the 19th century and my father came over on a plane. My great-uncle had to emigrate after he tore down the Irish tricolour in front of a post office in Donegal and replace it with the Union Jack. My cousins live all over the place, including Ireland.

    Today, it suits both Catholic Irish and English nationalists to say the people who used to run Ireland were foreign to the place. To say it’s much more complicated than that would upset both the locals and the tourists. You don’t want to upset the guys in the Red Sox jackets and Glasgow Celtic jersey by telling them that many Catholics have English ancestors and most Protestants had Irish-Irish ones. They want to be MOPES: the Most Oppressed People Ever. The Anglo ethno-masochist agrees completely. The English ruled Ireland like it was Rhodesia and now they’re gone. Simple. They don’t want to hear about the doings of the long lost Irish gentry and yeomanry. And yet we existed.

  334. Vinteuil says:
    @Cagey Beast

    …Nelson’s Pillar in Dublin was eventually replaced by modernist, globalist nothingness: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spire_of_Dublin

    Wow. Soul-less & depressing. The story of our times, indeed.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
  335. @Vinteuil

    Yes, not only are the descendants of the people who put up Nelson’s Pillar now gone from Ireland, so is the spirit of the people who blew it up. Ireland got its independence and then gave it up for a mess of Euro pottage and some nacho flavoured Pringles. That’s what makes it so pointless to argue with strangers online about all this.

  336. @Anonymous

    A masterly summation of the facts of the matter. Thank you.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
  337. @Old Palo Altan

    It’s a masterly summation of the uncomplicated version of things. Where are the Normans (the Catholic Old English) in all that? Where are the many Protestant farming families? Where are the Catholic families in which one son nominally converted to Protestantism in order to keep title to the land? Where are the families planted by Cromwell who later converted to Catholicism? What was Edmund Burke, a zambo?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Alden
  338. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @Cagey Beast

    It’s not that complicated. The Old English came over in the 12th century during the Norman invasions of the British Isles. They were Catholic, relatively small in number, relatively isolated from Britain, and came over a long time ago. Thus they assimilated into the native Irish population. That’s why certain Norman names like Fitzgerald are identified with the Irish.

    This contrasts with the later settlements when British and Protestant identity were much stronger. The Protestant proportion of the population peaked at around 10% in the late 19th century until Irish independence in the 1920s, after which it declined precipitously as many Protestants left Ireland.

    Yes, of course there were individual cases and some degree of conversion and intermarriage, but in general it was not that common, certainly not enough to create a singular identity.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
  339. @Anonymous

    … and they were mistaken in their belief that they were Irish? Got it. I had no idea it was so simple.

  340. @Anonymous

    I did not know that!

    Out of curiosity, do you have an interesting link to that?

    I’m not pulling the old “I won’t accept that without a link “ bit, I just wondered if you had one offhand.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  341. @Cagey Beast

    Most of the Irish Protestants came from the border region of Scottland and England. The “Scots Irish”. Many of them, including some of my ancestors, came to the Colonies in the 1700s.

    One can debate as to whether these folks were truly Irish. As for the ones still in Ireland, who have been there for centuries, that is yet another debate.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
  342. @Paleo Liberal

    This is a much more reasonable position to take than the other two we often see here in the comments. Both use the “no true Scotsman” fallacy to figure out who was or wasn’t an Irishman:

    1) No true Irishman ever ran anything of significance or did anything good of lasting importance. If he did, he must have really been an Englishman.

    2) No true Irishman was a Protestant. This second one is popular with the Bill O’Reilly types and not just the internet WASPs.

  343. Logan says:
    @J.Ross

    Agreed. But I note you and others who don’t like the Masons never qualify which group you’re talking about. So you seem to be lumping them all together, so why shouldn’t others?

  344. Alden says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    I remember 2 of her accusations.

    1 she went to his house and there was a Playboy magazine on the table

    2 he pulled out some of his pubic hair put it in a can of coke and gave it to her to drink.

    First “accusation” is believable he has a Playboy magazine horrors of horrors

    Second accusation is insane.

    Who was more of a stupid vicious bitch, Christine Ford or Anita Hill? Let’s discuss

  345. Alden says:
    @Jack D

    Absolutely right as usual Jack. Half the population are women and most work in government or quasi government jobs like hospitals and non profits that just duplicate government work; such as “ we don’t issue EBT cards but we get humongous government grants to tell you where the nearest welfare office is”

    It’s amazing how many non profits get tens of millions every year to squiggle between government agencies that actually provide a service and the population the agency serves.

    And most of those non profit workers are women. That’s in addition to the women who work for government agencies. It all began when Kennedy was killed and Lyndon Johnson poured billions into non profits through his war on poverty program

    Even veterinarians and the non vet assistants benefit from increased population.

    My advice to Whites is forget about the old bourgeois Dr lawyer MBA engineer skills. Just buy more and more real estate and benefit from higher and higher rents.

  346. Alden says:
    @Cagey Beast

    I highly, highly doubt that any descendants of Cromwell’s people became Catholics. Did Cromwell actually plant any Protestants in Ireland? I always thought it was King James 1 who planted Calvinist Scots bandit raiding cattle rustling clans in Ireland about 20 years before Cromwell invaded.

    The Scots Irish are not ethnic Irish. Ethnically, they are a mix of Celtic Scots and Viking invaders. For various reasons, they were removed from Scotland by James 1 and planted as it was called in Ireland.

    James1 was adamant that both Calvinist puritans and Catholics conform to the Church of England of which he was head. The Catholics caused no trouble in England as they were deep underground.

    But the non Christian Puritan Calvinist we’re fast rising in England to the point that they refused to live in a country that observed the birth and crucifixion of Christ. So they left for America.

    Back to the Scots calvinists James 1 planted in Ireland. James and the Scots reaches an agreement that once in Ireland the Scots could practice their own Calvinist Knox religion instead of James Christian Church of England Ireland Scotland

    James reneged on his promise and tried to force the Scots to join the official Church of Ireland England Scotland

    So many of the more anti Christian Scots Calvinist left for America. This continued for the next 200 years.

    The real reason James 1 planted the Scots calvinists in Ireland was to destroy the native ethnic Irish who fought back against the takeover of their land and property by English settlers.

    Basically send the poor violent Scots to kill or otherwise subdue the wild Irish so the English Gentry could take over after the Irish were either killed or subdued

    Many of the Scots gave up on destroying the naive Irish and moved to America all through the 1600 and 1700s the English government sent Scots Irish to the American frontier to fight the Indians so as to protect the coastal merchants and farmers from the Indians plus harassing French Louisiana colony and expanding British territory

    I’m pretty sure Cromwell didn’t plant any English or Scots in Ireland. He just cleared the way for the English by killing about 100,000 and enslaving another 250,000 for sale in America and the Carribean

    The Scots Irish are ethnic Scots who lived in Ireland for a while before they came to America. In Ireland they don’t call themselves Scots Irish. They are N Irish Orangemen or Protestants

  347. Graham says:
    @Steve Sailer

    I doubt you went to the top of Nelson’s Column in London. There are no steps. It’s solid.

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