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Bernie Sanders won another state today, his 8th in 19 contests.

Of course, Maine is the only state that is, arguably, whiter than Bernie’s own electoral fortress of whititude, Vermont. Across the first 19 states to vote or caucus, the correlation between Bernie’s share of the 2 candidate vote versus Hillary and the percentage of the state’s population that was black in 2014 is a remarkable r = -0.87.

Here’s a question: Can Bernie and his supporters even claim a moral victory? If Bernie loses because he got his ass kicked by black voters doesn’t that automatically make him not the moral winner but the immoral loser? By definition, blacks represent morality. Hence, because blacks hate him, Bernie deserves to lose

Q.E.D.

 
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  2. BernieLand is Portlandia writ large. Could Portland exist if it had the demographics of Birmingham? The liberals in Portland think so but I’m pretty sure that even the few remaining liberals in Birmingham probably see the folly of that vision.

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    • Replies: @Olorin
    Depends on whether you're talking about Portland, Oregon, or Portland, Maine.

    Portland, Maine, was 96% white in 1990, 85% white today.

    Maine is 95% white.

    Portland, Oregon, is only 76% white, and the city contains 2/3 of Oregon's black population.

    Oregon: 78% white, 12% Hispanic.
  3. OT: Two separate links to “Is Love Colorblind” appear to have been hacked:

    http://www.isteve.com/islovecolorblind.htm

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/is-love-colorblind/

    I noticed the same with another old HBD link from another blogger. Are old HBD links being targeted?

    NOTICE OF HACKING
    The link which forwarded your browser to this webpage may have come from a website which has was hacked for the purpose of redirecting consumers to websites selling counterfeit products. Accordingly, the United States District Court for the Southern District of Florida has ordered that the intermediary domain names which control traffic from potentially hacked websites be taken into the custody of the court and redirected to this webpage. Unfortunately, taking control of these domains does not undo the hacking of the original legitimate website, so the website may still be at risk.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    i didn't know that steve's blog posts were inside college textbooks. that's amazing. Congrats.
    , @Laugh Track
    Speaking of hacking, I've noticed for at least a few weeks, that going to AmRen.com often (but not always) brings up a full screen pop-up ad for MacKeeper which you can't get out of without clicking on an ambiguous OK/Cancel choice, where either choice could conceivably start downloading MacKeeper. So, one has to force quit out of the browser to escape.

    That program is infamous borderline malware (in the guise of helping to clean up your Mac). I don't know if this is a site hack or not, but if it is an advertiser that AmRen has actually contracted with, they are really doing a disservice to their readers.

  4. The Republican Party may be pulled apart first (it might even be this election) but when the Democratic Party is finally pulled apart into racial subgroups, the division may be more irreconcilable and permanent.

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    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Huh? Isn't that happening now? No sane person can look at the Dem race and not realize that blacks and whites have very different views and values.
    , @tbraton
    Maybe the return of the neoconservatives will provide the necessary glue to prevent that from happening. After all they did such a marvelous job with the Republican Party.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    The Republican Party may be pulled apart first (it might even be this election) but when the Democratic Party is finally pulled apart into racial subgroups, the division may be more irreconcilable and permanent.

     

    And nobody deserves it more.
    , @Olorin
    I thought the Dems were pulled apart as you say in the 1960s and 1970s with busing.

    That's when a bunch went over to Nixon Republicanism. (Which the MSM so amply saved us from with their Saints Bernstein and Ellsberg, and their assignment of one muddy week at St. Yasgur's milchik farm as the secular religious identity of every Baby Boomer.)

    Some came back for the Reaganismo dog-whistling in the '80s that claimed to be about championing the interests of white workers--while throwing the borders further open, and championing Greenspanomics and globalismo to boot.

    The Dems today are a coalition of the aggrieved fringes, with the power accruing to the most loud/violent and the all-three-coasts government/media/Ed Biz classes. Two very different types of power.

    As the parties have become more market research oriented, they have become more demographic oriented. That makes both D and R not so much political parties as two competing market research/advertising firms. Their goal is to create demographic categories with invented interests, then flog individuals into identifying with them and reacting as the parties/research firms' advertisers tell them to.

    We have a UniParty, and it is entirely mercantile.

  5. How about plotting the estimated Bernie share of the White vote (exit polls) vs. % of state that is Black, something like that. The huge Black vote margins for Hillary are pushing this and concealing actual White-Democrat voter behavior.

    My impression from a few glances at exit polls is that White support for Bernie more-or-less steady across different regions.

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    • Replies: @Inquiring Mind

    My impression from a few glances at exit polls is that White support for Bernie more-or-less steady across different regions.
     
    Look at Steve's date. A simplified model has Democratic black voters 100% for Hillary. Were the Democratic white voters 65% for Sanders, a state with 30% black voters has 70% white voters. 70% of 65% is 46%. Those states (cough, South Carolina) have Sanders lower, at 25%.

    Do you think is may not be a black-white difference but a distance from the Canadian border effect?
    , @Sammler
    This is clearly not the case. If white voters' behavior were consistent, then the extrapolation to 100% nonwhite would be an estimate of that group's mean vote. But the extrapolated value is below negative 100%.
  6. Steve, earlier today I read what I think is a bang on comment on why blacks don’t support Bernie (first comment):

    https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/48kyzj/why_are_black_americans_voting_for_hillary/

    “Fundamentally, Bernie’s campaign does not seem to understand how the liberalism of black democrats differs from that of their white counterparts. Specifically, culture-war issues play a much smaller role, because that is one place where black and white Democrats do not align perfectly.”

    “The reality is that “black liberalism” has historically existed hand-in-hand with religious belief, whereas “white liberalism” often exists in opposition to it.”

    “Black Americans perceive – with justification – that their (our) economic standing is getting better, and therefore are more willing to stay-the-course. Bernie’s pitch misses the mark because he wants to overthrow a system that is finally starting to work, in order to help us reclaim something we never had.”

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    • Replies: @Seamus Padraig

    “The reality is that “black liberalism” has historically existed hand-in-hand with religious belief, whereas “white liberalism” often exists in opposition to it.”
     
    That's true, but it doesn't explain the black vote in this case. Bernie isn't much of a culture-warrior, and he certainly isn't running against religion; he running against Wall Street. Anyway, what makes Hellary the spokeswoman for black religion?
    , @Ed
    It's not that deep. Clinton is well known compared to Bernie in the black community. People forget she was beating Obama in polls among blacks before Iowa.

    It was only after he won Iowa which made him viable that blacks switched en masse towards him. Also black women, the drivers of the African-American vote, are hardcore into identity politics. Clinton has been going hard on that even co-opting obscure SJW lingo.
    , @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
    Americans blacks have an undeniable racial solidarity.

    More important that "more free stuff for the poor" is "more free stuff just for blacks."

    If the government has to dilute all that free stuff among poor residents of all nationalities and colors it could mean less stuff and attention exclusively for their community.
  7. Bernie Sanders denied white poverty during the debate last night!

    So to answer your question, I would say, and I think it’s similar to what the secretary said, when you’re white, you don’t know what it’s like to be living in a ghetto. You don’t know what it’s like to be poor. You don’t know what it’s like to be hassled when you walk down the street or you get dragged out of a car.

    Mitt Romney insulted 47% of Americans when he called them deadbeat slackers. Now Bernie Sanders has insulted 67% of people living in poverty by denying the very existence of 31 million poor white people! This is White Poverty Denialism. I have news for you Bernie, the stomachs of poor white children Feel the Bern of hunger just as much as stomachs of color do.

    Sanders seems to be pushing a form of Bourgeois Socialism for middle class and upper middle class whites who will get free universities and an organic farmer’s market on every corner while the very existence of poor whites will be swept away into the dustbin of history.

    Poverty eradication by decree!

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    • Replies: @SFG
    Sigh. BLM made him do it. I knew it couldn't last. Funny how they used to tell us back in the eighties we were supposed to be colorblind, but now the last guy to actually try to run a colorblind campaign gets forced to repent.
    , @JohnnyWalker123
    He means that there aren't many whites living in urban slums. That's a popular perception in today's America.

    However, that's not completely true. There are substantial numbers of poor inner city whites in much of the rustbelt. Especially in Michigan, Ohio, western Pennsylvania, Indiana, and upstate New York.

    There are many poor whites in rural areas too, especially in the southern states.

    American intelligentsia tends to cluster in cities like San Francisco, LA, DC, NYC, and Boston. So they don't have much experience dealing with poor whites, as those cities have more affluent whites. If they lived in the Florida panhandle or south Cleveland, they'd have more experience with poor whites.
  8. @Diversity Heretic
    The Republican Party may be pulled apart first (it might even be this election) but when the Democratic Party is finally pulled apart into racial subgroups, the division may be more irreconcilable and permanent.

    Huh? Isn’t that happening now? No sane person can look at the Dem race and not realize that blacks and whites have very different views and values.

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    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    Agreed, but the "breaking point" will come when the Democratic nominee actually gets in electoral vote trouble because whites or blacks stay home or vote Republican:third party in the general election. I don't see that happening in this election but I admit my crystal ball's pretty cloudy these days. Eventually Steve's coalition of the fringes forms a circular firing squad without enough KKKrazy Glue to hold it together. (Three metaphors in one sentence:)
  9. I’d feel bad for Bernie but he is a coward who lacks basic assertiveness (see: Seattle BLM) and the courage of his convictions (see: his unbelievably cucked campaign stances on race and immigration). Part of me enjoys watching sociopath Hillary tear him to shreds.

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    • Replies: @Anonym
    So Bernie says "Let them eat cake!". Tell me again, morons who want Sanders as VP, why this would be such a wonderful thing?

    The only way Scandinavian socialism functions as anything other than a long-term death sentence for the host population is to have Israeli-style border control and (if the border control is not in place from the beginning) some sort of repatriation policy in place. One could borrow the repatriation policy from Algeria, Zimbabwe or the former Soviet Union.
  10. Any data that Steve could use to support the alleged “BernieBros” phenomena???

    What percentage of Bernie supporters are Male??? Does Bernie have a gender gap???

    BernieLand is Portlandia writ large.

    A trending meme on the Alt Right is that BernieBros are an extremely ripe population for “RED PILLING”.

    Trolling SPWL sites with graphs like Steve’s here along with info on SJWs and the Open Borders crowds plans for massive demographic change in their Whitopian redoubts could pay off big time.

    Of course lots of SWPL beta males will have to resort to keeping their plans to vote Trump in the general election very secret unless they risk getting kicked to couch by their Hillary supporting cat lady SOs.

    BernieBros need to be reminded that as soon as Hillary gets done “Merkeling America”, overnight Portlandia will be a thing of the past.

    And yes the verb “Merkeling” is trending big time as well.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Merkeling%22&oq=%22Merkeling%22&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8

    An Alt-Right parody of a post Merkeled Portlandia would be an hilarious troll in and of itself and an effective “RED PILL”.

    Imagine a “Battle of the Quiet Bands” being wrecked by a competing “Battle of the Mariachis” in the same park with dozens of “SYRIAN” Rapefugees thrown in for good measure.

    http://www.missionsjc.com/events-venue/signature-events/battle-of-the-mariachis/

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    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Hilarious comment and hilarious clip. Portlandia is brilliant.
    , @White Guy In Japan
    Perhaps Trump should reach out to SWPL hipsters.

    "Make Pabst Great Again!"
  11. Perhaps my imagination is just being overactive, but if it were southern whites instead of southern blacks refusing to vote for a Jewish candidate for president, wouldn’t there have been a bunch of articles about anti-Semitism rearing its ugly head in Dixie?

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    • Replies: @iSteveFan
    Yes.
    , @JohnnyWalker123
    Definitely.
    , @Jefferson
    "Perhaps my imagination is just being overactive, but if it were southern whites instead of southern blacks refusing to vote for a Jewish candidate for president, wouldn’t there have been a bunch of articles about anti-Semitism rearing its ugly head in Dixie?"

    Polls have shown that hatred of Jews is a lot more common in the African American community than it is in the Goy community.

    Louis Farrakhan has a lot more infuence in the African American community than David Duke has in the White community.

    Louis Farrakhan can organize 1 million Black supporters to come out to support him and hear him speak.

    David Duke can not even organize a group of 100 hundred Whites to come out to support him at a rally, let alone 1 million Whites.

    David Duke would not even be able to convince Steve Sailer to be a supporter of his, let alone convince Whites who are less Right Wing than Steve.
  12. Ed Rollins regularly claimed he could buy the black vote. So what you are seeing is the astonishingly well funded Clinton campaign doing what Rollins claimed he could do, basically buy votes. As whites get poorer expect to see the same. I have to wonder what Bush spent $1200 a vote on in New Hampshire. If you are wondering why vote buying works with blacks not white, maybe black voters have more integrity.

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    • Replies: @CK
    Or a lower market price.
    , @David In TN
    In the 1974 Tennessee Gubernatorial Democratic Primary, several wealthy but unknown men were running. A couple of them had significant black support. The word went around these votes were "bought."

    It developed to be the case. Some millionaires were spreading their money around and got black votes in the primary. None of them won though. An ex-segregationist named Ray Blanton won the primary with under 30% in a multi-candidate field.
  13. @Diversity Heretic
    The Republican Party may be pulled apart first (it might even be this election) but when the Democratic Party is finally pulled apart into racial subgroups, the division may be more irreconcilable and permanent.

    Maybe the return of the neoconservatives will provide the necessary glue to prevent that from happening. After all they did such a marvelous job with the Republican Party.

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  14. And yet the Bern was out there in the sixties chained to black protestors and getting hauled of with them by the police, while Hillary was boosting Goldwater. Shows you what good marketing can do to move even a lemon ….

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    • Replies: @Marcus
    Yeah the Sanderistas are doubling down on the MLK stuff.
    , @NOTA
    Most citizens, and even most voters, don't know much about the candidates or the issues. That's why politics looks the way it does.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    And yet the Bern was out there in the sixties chained to black protestors and getting hauled of with them by the police, while Hillary was boosting Goldwater
     
    Like Hillary in the primaries, Goldwater swept the blackest states. Otherwise, the two campaigns have little in common.
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    @RW
    OT: Two separate links to "Is Love Colorblind" appear to have been hacked:

    www.isteve.com/islovecolorblind.htm
    http://www.unz.com/isteve/is-love-colorblind/

    I noticed the same with another old HBD link from another blogger. Are old HBD links being targeted?

    NOTICE OF HACKING
    The link which forwarded your browser to this webpage may have come from a website which has was hacked for the purpose of redirecting consumers to websites selling counterfeit products. Accordingly, the United States District Court for the Southern District of Florida has ordered that the intermediary domain names which control traffic from potentially hacked websites be taken into the custody of the court and redirected to this webpage. Unfortunately, taking control of these domains does not undo the hacking of the original legitimate website, so the website may still be at risk.

    i didn’t know that steve’s blog posts were inside college textbooks. that’s amazing. Congrats.

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  16. The “BernieBros” reverse gender gap???

    Bernie Sanders riding major gender gap, leads Hillary Clinton in Iowa: poll

    The Quinnipiac survey found that Democratic men are breaking for Mr. Sanders by a two-to-one ratio. More than 60 percent of men back Mr. Sanders, while just 30 percent support Mrs. Clinton.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jan/12/sanders-riding-major-gender-gap-leads-clinton-iowa/?page=all

    Any more recent post election poll data???

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    • Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...

    The Quinnipiac survey found that Democratic men are breaking for Mr. Sanders by a two-to-one ratio. More than 60 percent of men back Mr. Sanders, while just 30 percent support Mrs. Clinton.
     
    And I'd be willing to bet that in a Trump v. Clinton contest a lot of that 60% will be voting for Trump just to stick it to the corrupt war hag.
    , @keypusher
    I don't know if that's just a crazy poll, sloppy writing (possibly taking "late deciders" as indicative of the electorate as a whole) or what, but there is no way that a gender gap that big between two Democrats exists on any kind of meaningful scale. That kind of gender gap wouldn't exist in a single state, never mind the country.

    The normal gender gap between Republicans and Democrats is 7-8% (that is, the Republican gets 7-8% less percent of the women's vote than the men's, or put another way if the Republican is getting 46% of the women he's getting around 53% of the men). A national poll recently had a 21% gender gap for Clinton v. Trump, which is enormous. And you're telling me that the gender gap between Clinton and Sanders is way bigger than that? NFW. Never mind plausibility, it's a mathematical impossibility given the margins of some of her recent primary wins.

    Steve, who knows a lot about polling and demographic realities, owes his readers a post about this. There's magical thinking on display in some of these comments.

  17. So all one has to do at this point is give Bernie all the remaining states that are less than 10% black to see if he is likely to win. Where does that put him? And how many of the remaining states are winner-take-all?

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  18. Yes, Steve’s site has long been hacked. Use the web archive.

    It should be percentage of a state’s Democratic population that is Black. Oklahoma’s Democratic party is Blacker than that of Massachusetts, despite Oklahoma having a smaller Black percentage of its population. Exit polls aren’t available for every state.

    For local areas, population density works better at explaining Bernie’s vote share than race.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Right, South Carolina for example is overall a red state, and few whites there are Democrats and vote in the Democratic primary.
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    The data points to the Fall election (presuming no indictment).

    Hillary cannot win an election where white voters are a majority. She absolutely requires the black, “Hispanic”, and Asian vote shares of Barack Obama. But she does not attract the enthusiasm that came to Obama naturally (cf. the epic fail of Martha Coakley in the 2010 MA Senate election – the bruthas just won’t turn out for the icy white b*tch).

    Therefore, Hillary! and her team will need to drive the minority vote in a way that Team Obama did not have to do. This means #BLM and all the other racial signaling they can come up with.

    BUT

    As the first explicitly anti-white Presidential candidate in history, running against a candidate promoting white interests in a more or less open way, she may well drive the GOP (or Trump Party) white vote share to 65% or more, finally validating the Sailer Strategy.

    Will Steve Sailer be the new Karl Rove?

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    • Replies: @e
    I expect Barry to campaign heavily for Hillary, esp. if her opponent is a man he hates, Trump.

    Barry will, I fear, manage to get out the black vote once again. If you're, say, a Giants' fan and the Dodgers are in the Series, you root not quite, but almost as hard for the Dodgers to lose as you would have done for the Giants to win had they gotten to the Series. Same principle applies to Hill v. Trump and black voters UNLESS Trump actually goes into black neighborhoodsduring the campaign and does something only Trump can do---surprise us somehow.
    , @Bill
    It will be interesting to see if any white Sanders supporters can be won over for Trump. Trump will be running to the left of Hillary on several issues that lefty whites say they care about: trade, war, Wall St, and Israel to name four.

    Presumably, lunch bucket whites in the upper midwest will go Trump. But how many occupy types will do so?

    Or, how about unions? Will Trump get the endorsement of the Teamsters as Reagan did once? Can he expand beyond that?

    It's clear that, assuming Trump is telling the truth about his positions, these people, unions and Bernie democrats, should vote for Trump. Will they?
  20. I have a lot of pro-Bernie people on my Facebook feed. I see a lot of the clickbait, “Bernie is really not that far back in terms of delegates” “The media is corrupt and in the tank for Hillary” and my favorite “45 Cities have marches of thousands for Bernie, Media ignores.”

    Every time I see one of these, I love poking at the race issue with them. “Huh, doesn’t look like any of those 45 cities with Bernie marches were in South Carolina… Or the south in general?”

    I even saw one meme with MLK’s face, bemoaning the lack of support for Bernie for the black community. There’s some great stuff on Reddit too of white liberals frustrated that blacks aren’t voting for Bernie like they’re supposed to.

    It’s great theater. I love watching it. And I love asking the question: “Why? Why don’t blacks support Bernie?”

    I’m waiting for someone to say the obvious: “Bernie’s an old white Jew,” but no one ever does. Doing so would be tacitly admitting a) most black people don’t care about politics unless the politician is black and b) there is a rich mine of anti-semitism in the black community.

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    • Replies: @CJ
    "The media is corrupt and in the tank for Hillary" may well function as clickbait, but it is also just the facts.
  21. Somalis in Maine might be counted as white because their heads are shaped more like cereal boxes than like basketballs. That could vault them past Vermont.

    And how does the Census Bureau classify wiggers? There’s West Virginia to consider, too.

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    • Replies: @John Derbyshire
    The Somali language is related to Hebrew, too. They both belong to the Afro-Asiatic family. Bernie should work on this.
  22. @george
    Ed Rollins regularly claimed he could buy the black vote. So what you are seeing is the astonishingly well funded Clinton campaign doing what Rollins claimed he could do, basically buy votes. As whites get poorer expect to see the same. I have to wonder what Bush spent $1200 a vote on in New Hampshire. If you are wondering why vote buying works with blacks not white, maybe black voters have more integrity.

    Or a lower market price.

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  23. Every time I see one of these, I love poking at the race issue with them. “Huh, doesn’t look like any of those 45 cities with Bernie marches were in South Carolina… Or the south in general?”

    Yes, but it was not for a lack of trying.

    Problem was that they got immediately broken up by the cops.

    All those exclusively white people gathered together marching, some folks mistook them for a Klan rally.

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  24. There’s always been this weird internal contradiction with white liberals. They loved diversity from a great distance. Ken Burns, the Leni Riefenstahl of modern liberalism, moved to Walpole New Hampshire from Brooklyn. If not for the 50 Hispanic maids, nannies and gardeners, Walpole would be 99% white. There are 10 black people there according to the census.

    Of course, this is pretty much a Yankeedom thing. They are perfectly willing to treat non-whites as equals as long as they don’t have to live anywhere near them. When I lived in the South, I always enjoyed when my Yankee friends would visit. They would see black people up close in numbers they simply could not fathom.

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    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    Yep, there is a lot more everyday mixing of blacks and whites in the South. Shocks me every time I go to NC.
    , @AP

    Of course, this is pretty much a Yankeedom thing. They are perfectly willing to treat non-whites as equals as long as they don’t have to live anywhere near them
     
    It's good-natured naivety, as in Scandinavia or Scotland. Without experience, they assume that all people are fundamentally alike. Yankees or Scandinavians aren't likely to abuse the system, why would anyone else? And helping one's neighbor when his neighbor is truly in need is a good thing that decent people do, per European culture. If you want European areas that are non-diverse, you're eventually going to end up with this kind of liberalism as a byproduct.
  25. Garth Pancake: Do you know who the Freedom Riders were, MacSam?

    Gawain MacSam: No, and I don’t give a fuck. Just tell me when the fuck they gonna leave.

    Garth Pancake: The Freedom Riders, my fine young man, were a group of concerned liberals from up north, all working together, just like we are here. Involved citizens who came down here so that local black folk could have their civil liberties. So that people like you could have the vote.

    Gawain MacSam: You know what, man?

    Garth Pancake: What, brother?

    Gawain MacSam: I don’t vote. So fuck you.

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  26. Sanders last night:

    When you’re white, you don’t know what it’s like to be living in ghetto, you don’t know what it’s like to be poor, you don’t know what it’s like to be hassled when you walk down the street or you get dragged out of a car.

    I had to reread that twice. I am apparently not white since I know what being poor is like, what living in a dangerous neighborhood is like and what it’s like to be harrassed walking down the street (both by cops and blacks).

    And apparently Reginald Denny isn’t white because he knows what it’s like to be dragged out of a vehicle and beaten almost to death based on his skin color alone.

    Either Sanders is as cynical as Hillary or he is just senile/stupid. Either way he is disgustingly anti-white. The tiny bit of respect I still had for him is gone.

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  27. @AndrewR
    Huh? Isn't that happening now? No sane person can look at the Dem race and not realize that blacks and whites have very different views and values.

    Agreed, but the “breaking point” will come when the Democratic nominee actually gets in electoral vote trouble because whites or blacks stay home or vote Republican:third party in the general election. I don’t see that happening in this election but I admit my crystal ball’s pretty cloudy these days. Eventually Steve’s coalition of the fringes forms a circular firing squad without enough KKKrazy Glue to hold it together. (Three metaphors in one sentence:)

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  28. Lesson learned: black hatred of weakness and preference for “name brands” outweighs promises of free stuff.

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  29. @george
    Ed Rollins regularly claimed he could buy the black vote. So what you are seeing is the astonishingly well funded Clinton campaign doing what Rollins claimed he could do, basically buy votes. As whites get poorer expect to see the same. I have to wonder what Bush spent $1200 a vote on in New Hampshire. If you are wondering why vote buying works with blacks not white, maybe black voters have more integrity.

    In the 1974 Tennessee Gubernatorial Democratic Primary, several wealthy but unknown men were running. A couple of them had significant black support. The word went around these votes were “bought.”

    It developed to be the case. Some millionaires were spreading their money around and got black votes in the primary. None of them won though. An ex-segregationist named Ray Blanton won the primary with under 30% in a multi-candidate field.

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  30. I think the black rejection of Bernie is because they correctly see his Marxist economic determinism as a rejection of the prevailing dominant strain in the left which is the elevation of blacks to the position of the ultimate victims.

    Bernie supporters can’t understand this point because they can’t grasp that the victims that they have so elevated don’t want to share their prized victimhood status with the 70% of Americans living in poverty who are white. Of course Bernie realizes this and he has pandered for the black vote as shamelessly as Clinton.

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  31. @Bhroham
    Steve, earlier today I read what I think is a bang on comment on why blacks don't support Bernie (first comment):

    https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/48kyzj/why_are_black_americans_voting_for_hillary/

    "Fundamentally, Bernie's campaign does not seem to understand how the liberalism of black democrats differs from that of their white counterparts. Specifically, culture-war issues play a much smaller role, because that is one place where black and white Democrats do not align perfectly."

    "The reality is that "black liberalism" has historically existed hand-in-hand with religious belief, whereas "white liberalism" often exists in opposition to it."

    "Black Americans perceive - with justification - that their (our) economic standing is getting better, and therefore are more willing to stay-the-course. Bernie's pitch misses the mark because he wants to overthrow a system that is finally starting to work, in order to help us reclaim something we never had."

    “The reality is that “black liberalism” has historically existed hand-in-hand with religious belief, whereas “white liberalism” often exists in opposition to it.”

    That’s true, but it doesn’t explain the black vote in this case. Bernie isn’t much of a culture-warrior, and he certainly isn’t running against religion; he running against Wall Street. Anyway, what makes Hellary the spokeswoman for black religion?

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    • Replies: @Bhroham
    Well I think the comment as a whole is quite accurate. Basically Sanders is advocating for a socialist vision of several decades ago, that to some extent, did exist for white Americans. Blacks are actually optimistic economically, so aren't too concerned about the banks etc. And as Steve has said before, Sander's abstract promises of justice aren't as compelling as Clinton, wife of the 'first black president' and anointed heir to the real first black president.
  32. I’d like know how Whites voted in the Democratic races in heavily Black states.

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    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    Hey, JayMan, you're a smart guy, and I'm drinking whiskey and innumerate anyway.

    It seems to me that on the left side of that graph, the percentage of whites are represented accurately due to the fact that the small overall percentage of blacks means the the measurements are of whites. At the same time, on the right side, whites could vote for Hillary more, less, or the same as on the left side.

    It's true, we don't know: more, less, or the same? But do we really not know? If the blacks are voting for Bernie, doesn't that mean the whites are voting for Hillary in extreme numbers in the states with more blacks? Does that make any sense? Com'on, man!

    Again, I'm drunk and innumerate.
    , @ben tillman

    I’d like know how Whites voted in the Democratic races in heavily Black states.
     
    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/02/27/us/elections/south-carolina-democrat-poll.html?_r=0

    In South Carolina:

    Whites 54-46 for Hillary
    Blacks 86-14 for Hillary

    White men: 56-44 for Sanders
    White women: 60-40 for Hillary
    Black men: 82-18 for Hillary
    Black women: 89-11 for Hillary
    , @Reg Cæsar

    I’d like know how Whites voted in the Democratic races in heavily Black states.
     
    I'd like to know what kind of whites vote in the Democratic races in heavily black states.
    Probably all in the teachers' union. I'd assume the yellow dogs are dead by now.
  33. Looks like Bernie is the “white candidate” then.

    Maybe a bunch of us white folk could follow Bernie to some spot of land somewhere and create a white homeland — a little, socialist, white utopia like Norway or Sweden.

    The Zionists did something like this for their people. Their mistake was picking a bad spot, out of tradition, even though most of them don’t really originate from there.

    We could just twist arms — in the Balfour sense — until we get Vermont, and maybe Maine too.

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    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    I thought the Zionists wanted someplace in deepest Africa, like Nigeria or something. We could Wikipedia it, but I don't have the interest...
    , @Anonymous
    Israel is in the Mediterranean, and Jews are Mediterranean.
  34. Ok, question.

    While Hillary may indeed be leading in delegates and states won, remember: Eventually she’ll run out of states where blacks have a majority in the Democratic party. Like, what happens when the race turns west and the rest of the Plains/Mountain states?

    It may come down to Latinos in CA; AZ; NM. And also, WA; OR; ID; the Dakotas; don’t have tons of blacks to vote for Hillary. So Bernie is gonna have to pick up the Latino vote in order to have a realistic chance at the nomination. All eyes will turn to the West to pick the Democratic candidate.

    Now see, on the other side, Trump can continually get the majority share of the total white vote in the primary states (which will be most of the states from hereon out) and he’ll stay in the drivers seat.

    If he can’t get a majority of the Latino vote, then Bernie will eventually run out of gas since there just aren’t that many SWPL left in the party to vote for him.

    Funny how no one saw this coming in the party of McGovern. Could also be a harbinger of things to come: Hillary can’t get the majority of whites to vote for her in her own party, so why should she expect to receive the majority of whites in the country to vote for her come November?

    And, ca.70% of the total white vote will not vote for her. It will go to Trump.

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    • Replies: @keypusher
    And, ca.70% of the total white vote will not vote for her. It will go to Trump.

    Richard Nixon in 1972 did not get 70% of the white vote. Ronald Reagan in 1984 did not get 70% of the white vote. They didn't even get 70% of the white male vote.

    Donald Trump is not going to get 70% of the white vote.

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/03/donald-trump-needs-7-of-10-white-guys-213699
    , @keypusher
    Funny how no one saw this coming in the party of McGovern.

    What makes you think they didn't? I remember Bill Clinton in the 90s looking fondly toward the day when there would no longer be a white minority in the country as a whole. I suspect he was bright enough to see it would happen in the Democratic Party first.

    Could also be a harbinger of things to come: Hillary can’t get the majority of whites to vote for her in her own party, so why should she expect to receive the majority of whites in the country to vote for her come November?

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but no Democrat has gotten an absolute majority of the white vote since Lyndon Johnson. Hasn't kept them from winning elections.
  35. @Reg Cæsar
    Somalis in Maine might be counted as white because their heads are shaped more like cereal boxes than like basketballs. That could vault them past Vermont.

    And how does the Census Bureau classify wiggers? There's West Virginia to consider, too.

    The Somali language is related to Hebrew, too. They both belong to the Afro-Asiatic family. Bernie should work on this.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    Somalis hold sailors hostage, Jews hold EU hostage.
    , @marwan
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-35748986

    A US air strike has killed more than 150 al-Shabab militants in Somalia, the Pentagon says.
    Spokesman Captain Jeff Davis said the strike hit a training camp where a "large-scale" attack was being planned.
    "We know they were going to be departing the camp and they posed an imminent threat to US and [African Union] forces," Captain Davis said.
    "Initial assessments are that more than 150 terrorist fighters were eliminated," he added.
     
    Might be a bad day to caucus with the Somalis . Do they still think Barack Obama has "got their back" ??
  36. @RW
    OT: Two separate links to "Is Love Colorblind" appear to have been hacked:

    www.isteve.com/islovecolorblind.htm
    http://www.unz.com/isteve/is-love-colorblind/

    I noticed the same with another old HBD link from another blogger. Are old HBD links being targeted?

    NOTICE OF HACKING
    The link which forwarded your browser to this webpage may have come from a website which has was hacked for the purpose of redirecting consumers to websites selling counterfeit products. Accordingly, the United States District Court for the Southern District of Florida has ordered that the intermediary domain names which control traffic from potentially hacked websites be taken into the custody of the court and redirected to this webpage. Unfortunately, taking control of these domains does not undo the hacking of the original legitimate website, so the website may still be at risk.

    Speaking of hacking, I’ve noticed for at least a few weeks, that going to AmRen.com often (but not always) brings up a full screen pop-up ad for MacKeeper which you can’t get out of without clicking on an ambiguous OK/Cancel choice, where either choice could conceivably start downloading MacKeeper. So, one has to force quit out of the browser to escape.

    That program is infamous borderline malware (in the guise of helping to clean up your Mac). I don’t know if this is a site hack or not, but if it is an advertiser that AmRen has actually contracted with, they are really doing a disservice to their readers.

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    • Replies: @NOTA
    Just one more reason why web ads are evil. (The tracking is even harder to avoid than the malware.)
  37. Its a good observation that African American voters overwhelmingly support Hillary Clinton over Bernie Sanders, eight years after they overwhelmingly supported Obama over Hillary Clinton, and also that the ones who vote almost always voted for Democratic candidates. A hundred years ago, the ones who were allowed to vote overwhelmingly supported Republican candidates.

    Some interesting things follow from this, for example its a good explanation of why the machine candidate, Clinton, was beaten (barely) in 2008 but is on course to win in 2016. The Democratic Party is a machine politics party and its rare for the machine candidate to lose a nomination contest. Another thing that follows is the tendency of Black voters to block vote. Once you look at other countries that have the same election, the same thing winds up occurring, in that very visible minority groups will block vote. It happens again and again. It happens even in US politics with other groups such as Mormons and Jews, though the most visible and largest minority to do this are the A-As. The voting strategy also makes a fair amount of sense for a visible minority, concentrate your votes on one candidate and party and make yourself an indispensable party of its coalition.

    In addition, its easier to manipulate the votes of poorer voters through vote buying (also to keep them from voting altogether). This was a big argument in the 19th century against universal suffrage. Historically its true, and African-American voters tend to be poorer.

    However, Steve is overthinking this. Only one candidate or party can get a minority block vote by definition. Hillary Clinton got in it 2016 and not 2008. The candidate was exactly the same in both cases, so this is a good controlled experiment that demonstrates that getting a minority block vote or not getting it really doesn’t say much about a particular candidate.

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    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    To me, it just looks like an instantiation of the Big Man principle of African social life.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    getting the minority block vote...
     
    Bloc! Bloc!

    It's the heads that are "block".

    , @Kevin O'Keeffe
    "Hillary Clinton got in it 2016 and not 2008. The candidate was exactly the same in both cases, so this is a good controlled experiment that demonstrates that getting a minority block vote or not getting it really doesn’t say much about a particular candidate."

    Its really not that complicated. Blacks voted for Barack Obama (and thus, against Hillary) in 2008, because Obama was Black. They are voting for Hillary in 2016 because there is no Black candidate, and she's the sort of person who tweets out "selfies" with Kim Kardashian and her idiot boyfriend (whereas Bernie is not that sort of person; he'll never appear on the cover of People magazine).
  38. “If Bernie loses because he got his ass kicked by black voters doesn’t that automatically make him not the moral winner but the immoral loser?”

    Fortunately for Bernie’s legacy, the Left’s overall lock on morality (disavowed Communism and its untold million dead yet, Bernie?) seems likely to continue for years yet, giving him a pass.

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  39. @Hail
    How about plotting the estimated Bernie share of the White vote (exit polls) vs. % of state that is Black, something like that. The huge Black vote margins for Hillary are pushing this and concealing actual White-Democrat voter behavior.

    My impression from a few glances at exit polls is that White support for Bernie more-or-less steady across different regions.

    My impression from a few glances at exit polls is that White support for Bernie more-or-less steady across different regions.

    Look at Steve’s date. A simplified model has Democratic black voters 100% for Hillary. Were the Democratic white voters 65% for Sanders, a state with 30% black voters has 70% white voters. 70% of 65% is 46%. Those states (cough, South Carolina) have Sanders lower, at 25%.

    Do you think is may not be a black-white difference but a distance from the Canadian border effect?

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    • Replies: @Hail
    The metric on the x-axis is Black Percent of State, not Black voters. South Carolina Dem primary alone was 61% Black.
  40. Off-topic: The WSJ examines Hamilton-panic among the East-Coast political elite:

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/whats-worse-than-getting-shot-by-aaron-burr-not-having-seen-hamilton-1457298388

    Updated March 6, 2016 7:50 p.m. ET

    In conversation after conversation at a Manhattan cocktail party last fall packed with political types, Melissa DeRosa found herself suddenly panicked.

    Ms. DeRosa, chief of staff to New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, pretended to check her phone for email or take a call, anything to avoid disclosing a painful, personal secret: She hadn’t seen “Hamilton.”

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    • Replies: @candid_observer
    I find it hard to believe that "Hamilton" isn't just another one of those things one is supposed to admire just because it's "racist" not to admire it.

    I remember back in the day pointing out that Obama's supposedly great oratory wasn't all that, and, of course, being called "racist" for questioning its transcendent beauty.

    But when is the last time anyone has ever heard about how powerfully moving and exquisitely expressed are his speeches? Somehow, after he got elected, no one felt anymore they had to keep up the lie, and so the whole notion got dropped. I doubt that there's anyone on earth who actually looks forward to listening to still another droning, boring, utterly predictable sermon from Obama.
    , @NOTA
    She should just talk less and smile more.
  41. Back in the day, when I was a union man, I was apolitical. But I voted for the Democrats because the union said I should. Straight ticket. Slam bam.

    Something like that is going on with black Americans. Their leadership is telling them to vote Hillary. How else to explain it? Hillary was a Goldwater girl. Sanders was getting his head cracked in the civil rights movement.

    Merely speculating of course. Maybe its just that black folks want a Democrat. Any Democrat. And they think Hillary has the best chance in the primary.

    Either way, it’s ironic that Bernie is brought down by AA voters.

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  42. In the early sixties, Bernie was
    getting arrested at Civil rights demonstarations, and Hillary was a
    Goldwater Girl.

    If I were advising Sanders, I’d advise him to mention that at every stop.

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    • Replies: @Kylie
    "In the early sixties, Bernie was
    getting arrested at Civil rights demonstarations, and Hillary was a
    Goldwater Girl.

    If I were advising Sanders, I’d advise him to mention that at every stop."

    Why? While slavery, Jim Crow and the murder of Emmett Till are recent events, the Civil Rights movement and Goldwater are ancient history.
  43. @NJ Transit Commuter
    Perhaps my imagination is just being overactive, but if it were southern whites instead of southern blacks refusing to vote for a Jewish candidate for president, wouldn't there have been a bunch of articles about anti-Semitism rearing its ugly head in Dixie?

    Yes.

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  44. @Hail
    How about plotting the estimated Bernie share of the White vote (exit polls) vs. % of state that is Black, something like that. The huge Black vote margins for Hillary are pushing this and concealing actual White-Democrat voter behavior.

    My impression from a few glances at exit polls is that White support for Bernie more-or-less steady across different regions.

    This is clearly not the case. If white voters’ behavior were consistent, then the extrapolation to 100% nonwhite would be an estimate of that group’s mean vote. But the extrapolated value is below negative 100%.

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    • Replies: @Hail
    You're making a faulty assumption here. The metric used is Black Percent of State, not Black percent of voters. 61% of Dem voters in SC were black, but the state is only 28% Black.

    Here are a few quick White Only votes I calculate, excluding states in which Sanders was hometown favorite (he won by +24 in NH and an enormous margin in VT).

    Iowa White Vote (exit poll). Note: 91% of voters were White.
    46% Sanders (Lose -3)
    49% Clinton

    Massachusetts White Vote (exit poll). Note: 85% of voters were White.
    50% Sanders (Win +1)
    49% Clinton

    Oklahoma White Vote (exit poll). Note: 74% of voters were White.
    56% Sanders (Win +20)
    36% Clinton

    Virginia White Vote (exit poll). Note: 63% of voters were White.
    42% Sanders (Lose -15)
    57% Clinton

    Nevada White Vote (exit poll). Note: 59% of voters were White.
    49% Sanders (Win +2)
    47% Clinton

    Alabama White Vote (exit poll). Note: 40% of voters were White.
    59% Sanders (Lose -21)
    38% Clinton

    South Carolina White Vote (exit poll). Note: 35% of voters were White.
    46% Sanders (Lose -8)
    54% Clinton

    I don't see a strong pattern so far when White Vote Only is used, though it seems Southern Whites may not like Sanders for regional reasons.
  45. @Buzz Mohawk
    Looks like Bernie is the "white candidate" then.

    Maybe a bunch of us white folk could follow Bernie to some spot of land somewhere and create a white homeland -- a little, socialist, white utopia like Norway or Sweden.

    The Zionists did something like this for their people. Their mistake was picking a bad spot, out of tradition, even though most of them don't really originate from there.

    We could just twist arms -- in the Balfour sense -- until we get Vermont, and maybe Maine too.

    I thought the Zionists wanted someplace in deepest Africa, like Nigeria or something. We could Wikipedia it, but I don’t have the interest…

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    • Replies: @Sleep
    It was Kenya. (Though at the time it was part of Uganda.)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uganda_Scheme

  46. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @E. Harding
    Yes, Steve's site has long been hacked. Use the web archive.

    It should be percentage of a state's Democratic population that is Black. Oklahoma's Democratic party is Blacker than that of Massachusetts, despite Oklahoma having a smaller Black percentage of its population. Exit polls aren't available for every state.

    For local areas, population density works better at explaining Bernie's vote share than race.

    Right, South Carolina for example is overall a red state, and few whites there are Democrats and vote in the Democratic primary.

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  47. @Ed
    Its a good observation that African American voters overwhelmingly support Hillary Clinton over Bernie Sanders, eight years after they overwhelmingly supported Obama over Hillary Clinton, and also that the ones who vote almost always voted for Democratic candidates. A hundred years ago, the ones who were allowed to vote overwhelmingly supported Republican candidates.

    Some interesting things follow from this, for example its a good explanation of why the machine candidate, Clinton, was beaten (barely) in 2008 but is on course to win in 2016. The Democratic Party is a machine politics party and its rare for the machine candidate to lose a nomination contest. Another thing that follows is the tendency of Black voters to block vote. Once you look at other countries that have the same election, the same thing winds up occurring, in that very visible minority groups will block vote. It happens again and again. It happens even in US politics with other groups such as Mormons and Jews, though the most visible and largest minority to do this are the A-As. The voting strategy also makes a fair amount of sense for a visible minority, concentrate your votes on one candidate and party and make yourself an indispensable party of its coalition.

    In addition, its easier to manipulate the votes of poorer voters through vote buying (also to keep them from voting altogether). This was a big argument in the 19th century against universal suffrage. Historically its true, and African-American voters tend to be poorer.

    However, Steve is overthinking this. Only one candidate or party can get a minority block vote by definition. Hillary Clinton got in it 2016 and not 2008. The candidate was exactly the same in both cases, so this is a good controlled experiment that demonstrates that getting a minority block vote or not getting it really doesn't say much about a particular candidate.

    To me, it just looks like an instantiation of the Big Man principle of African social life.

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  48. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Buzz Mohawk
    Looks like Bernie is the "white candidate" then.

    Maybe a bunch of us white folk could follow Bernie to some spot of land somewhere and create a white homeland -- a little, socialist, white utopia like Norway or Sweden.

    The Zionists did something like this for their people. Their mistake was picking a bad spot, out of tradition, even though most of them don't really originate from there.

    We could just twist arms -- in the Balfour sense -- until we get Vermont, and maybe Maine too.

    Israel is in the Mediterranean, and Jews are Mediterranean.

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    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    It would be harder to be more wrong.

    Jewish people are overwhelmingly not "Mediterranean" genetically. Their origin way back might be "Khazar" or central Asian, or simply middle eastern Semitic, but it's not "Mediterranean."

    Since migrating from wherever the Hell, a very large proportion of "Jews" have acquired substantial white European genes, particularly German or Slavic (Russian and Polish above all). The majority of so-called Jews are probably at least a quarter non-Jew, often more, without even accounting for more recent intermarriage.
  49. OT: The search for Haven Monahan continues: http://www.nhregister.com/sports/20160303/storm-brews-on-yale-campus-following-departure-of-ex-basketball-captain
    I wonder how this one will play out. Quote from the Yale basketball captain’s father:

    “We have strict orders from our lawyers,” said Jim Montague,. “Soon enough, I’d love to tell the other side of the story. It’s ridiculous, why he’s expelled. It’s probably going to set some sort of precedent. We’re trying to do things the gentleman’s way, so we’re keeping things close-knit. But you guys will get a story.”

    The timing is an interesting wrinkle (mid-Feb) given that Yale qualified for March Madness and the legal system takes time.

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    • Replies: @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
    I love this quote from the Women's Center,

    "While the campus can only speculate on what occurred, we can comfortably say that, should all of this be true, this is progress. It seems that a survivor felt that coming forward was a viable option and that they got the decisive outcome that they likely fought hard for.

    What kind of use of pronouns is that? Keepin' it "gender neutral" at the cost of clarity? Who is the "they" is it the "victim?" I thought the "victim" was singular. Why is it necessary to make it "neutral?" I thought feminists held that only women could be victims of sexual violence, why not make this clear with gendered pronouns?

    Idiots.
  50. @The Alarmist
    And yet the Bern was out there in the sixties chained to black protestors and getting hauled of with them by the police, while Hillary was boosting Goldwater. Shows you what good marketing can do to move even a lemon ....

    Yeah the Sanderistas are doubling down on the MLK stuff.

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  51. @JayMan
    I'd like know how Whites voted in the Democratic races in heavily Black states.

    Hey, JayMan, you’re a smart guy, and I’m drinking whiskey and innumerate anyway.

    It seems to me that on the left side of that graph, the percentage of whites are represented accurately due to the fact that the small overall percentage of blacks means the the measurements are of whites. At the same time, on the right side, whites could vote for Hillary more, less, or the same as on the left side.

    It’s true, we don’t know: more, less, or the same? But do we really not know? If the blacks are voting for Bernie, doesn’t that mean the whites are voting for Hillary in extreme numbers in the states with more blacks? Does that make any sense? Com’on, man!

    Again, I’m drunk and innumerate.

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  52. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @John Derbyshire
    The Somali language is related to Hebrew, too. They both belong to the Afro-Asiatic family. Bernie should work on this.

    Somalis hold sailors hostage, Jews hold EU hostage.

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  53. @Anonymous
    The data points to the Fall election (presuming no indictment).

    Hillary cannot win an election where white voters are a majority. She absolutely requires the black, "Hispanic", and Asian vote shares of Barack Obama. But she does not attract the enthusiasm that came to Obama naturally (cf. the epic fail of Martha Coakley in the 2010 MA Senate election - the bruthas just won't turn out for the icy white b*tch).

    Therefore, Hillary! and her team will need to drive the minority vote in a way that Team Obama did not have to do. This means #BLM and all the other racial signaling they can come up with.

    BUT

    As the first explicitly anti-white Presidential candidate in history, running against a candidate promoting white interests in a more or less open way, she may well drive the GOP (or Trump Party) white vote share to 65% or more, finally validating the Sailer Strategy.

    Will Steve Sailer be the new Karl Rove?

    I expect Barry to campaign heavily for Hillary, esp. if her opponent is a man he hates, Trump.

    Barry will, I fear, manage to get out the black vote once again. If you’re, say, a Giants’ fan and the Dodgers are in the Series, you root not quite, but almost as hard for the Dodgers to lose as you would have done for the Giants to win had they gotten to the Series. Same principle applies to Hill v. Trump and black voters UNLESS Trump actually goes into black neighborhoodsduring the campaign and does something only Trump can do—surprise us somehow.

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  54. @Diversity Heretic
    The Republican Party may be pulled apart first (it might even be this election) but when the Democratic Party is finally pulled apart into racial subgroups, the division may be more irreconcilable and permanent.

    The Republican Party may be pulled apart first (it might even be this election) but when the Democratic Party is finally pulled apart into racial subgroups, the division may be more irreconcilable and permanent.

    And nobody deserves it more.

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  55. @Ed
    Its a good observation that African American voters overwhelmingly support Hillary Clinton over Bernie Sanders, eight years after they overwhelmingly supported Obama over Hillary Clinton, and also that the ones who vote almost always voted for Democratic candidates. A hundred years ago, the ones who were allowed to vote overwhelmingly supported Republican candidates.

    Some interesting things follow from this, for example its a good explanation of why the machine candidate, Clinton, was beaten (barely) in 2008 but is on course to win in 2016. The Democratic Party is a machine politics party and its rare for the machine candidate to lose a nomination contest. Another thing that follows is the tendency of Black voters to block vote. Once you look at other countries that have the same election, the same thing winds up occurring, in that very visible minority groups will block vote. It happens again and again. It happens even in US politics with other groups such as Mormons and Jews, though the most visible and largest minority to do this are the A-As. The voting strategy also makes a fair amount of sense for a visible minority, concentrate your votes on one candidate and party and make yourself an indispensable party of its coalition.

    In addition, its easier to manipulate the votes of poorer voters through vote buying (also to keep them from voting altogether). This was a big argument in the 19th century against universal suffrage. Historically its true, and African-American voters tend to be poorer.

    However, Steve is overthinking this. Only one candidate or party can get a minority block vote by definition. Hillary Clinton got in it 2016 and not 2008. The candidate was exactly the same in both cases, so this is a good controlled experiment that demonstrates that getting a minority block vote or not getting it really doesn't say much about a particular candidate.

    getting the minority block vote…

    Bloc! Bloc!

    It’s the heads that are “block”.

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  56. @anonymous-antimarxist
    The "BernieBros" reverse gender gap???


    Bernie Sanders riding major gender gap, leads Hillary Clinton in Iowa: poll

    The Quinnipiac survey found that Democratic men are breaking for Mr. Sanders by a two-to-one ratio. More than 60 percent of men back Mr. Sanders, while just 30 percent support Mrs. Clinton.
     
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jan/12/sanders-riding-major-gender-gap-leads-clinton-iowa/?page=all

    Any more recent post election poll data???

    The Quinnipiac survey found that Democratic men are breaking for Mr. Sanders by a two-to-one ratio. More than 60 percent of men back Mr. Sanders, while just 30 percent support Mrs. Clinton.

    And I’d be willing to bet that in a Trump v. Clinton contest a lot of that 60% will be voting for Trump just to stick it to the corrupt war hag.

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  57. It is not that blacks hate Bernie. It is that that they have been ‘propaganized’ to believe that Bill was ‘ the first black president’ and that the Clintons truly represents their interest.

    The truth is Bernie represent their interest much much much better that Hillary does. Bernie is a true man of integrity but the Clintons know how to milk the system. Perception is reality . Hence statements that erroneously support the Clintons as the better choice.

    I think he gave a much more vigorous and assertive presentation of his policies in this last debate than at any other time. He is learning the ropes…in my view he won that debate hands down .
    He is the only one with such immaculate integrity in the presidential race. Though it can work against him because he is a gentleman , that alone should win him the nomination. Many informed black leaders such as Harry Belafonte, recognize his virtue and the superiority of his policies and so endorse him unconditionally. So would the others once the light is shone on both of them and the coin drops.

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    • Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe
    "Perception is reality . "

    No, perception is most decidedly not reality. People get duped, yet reality remains unchanged.
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    The irony is that blacks would be better off voting for Sanders, not least because of his promise to socialize medicine.

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  59. It might be worthwhile to consider some of the nuances in Sanders’ white support.

    I looked over the recent map of those towns in Massachusetts in which Sanders won vs. where Hillary won. Unsurprisingly, Hillary won in the typical urban areas with typically larger numbers of non-white voters. But, surprisingly to me, she also won, and by good measure, those towns that where overwhelming white upper-middle class. Sanders won only in the white towns, but they fell into two categories: the SWPL whites of the many college towns (Amherst, etc. in western Mass) , and the working class whites and rural whites in the many less urban towns in Mass. Now those working class whites are about as far from standard SWPLs and “progressives” as one can get. My guess is that such whites are registering their disgust with establishment candidates by voting for Sanders. Such whites would probably be pretty easy to peel off for another outsider candidate such as Trump, probably particularly because so many of his positions are centrist or populist.

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    • Replies: @SFG
    Yeah. Sanders is an old-style economic liberal, I could see a lot of the old union guys going for him, or blue-collar types who might be open to Trump.
    , @Brutusale
    What everyone forgets about Massachusetts is that it's a state with more unenrolled voters than Dems and Reps added together. 53% of MA voters have no party affiliation, the highest percentage in the country.

    I know more than a few center-left guys who took the GOP ballot this time around, guys who'd have been for Bernie absent the chance to vote for Trump. The Dem primary in my town almost pretty much mirrored the gender demographic.

  60. @Anonymous
    The data points to the Fall election (presuming no indictment).

    Hillary cannot win an election where white voters are a majority. She absolutely requires the black, "Hispanic", and Asian vote shares of Barack Obama. But she does not attract the enthusiasm that came to Obama naturally (cf. the epic fail of Martha Coakley in the 2010 MA Senate election - the bruthas just won't turn out for the icy white b*tch).

    Therefore, Hillary! and her team will need to drive the minority vote in a way that Team Obama did not have to do. This means #BLM and all the other racial signaling they can come up with.

    BUT

    As the first explicitly anti-white Presidential candidate in history, running against a candidate promoting white interests in a more or less open way, she may well drive the GOP (or Trump Party) white vote share to 65% or more, finally validating the Sailer Strategy.

    Will Steve Sailer be the new Karl Rove?

    It will be interesting to see if any white Sanders supporters can be won over for Trump. Trump will be running to the left of Hillary on several issues that lefty whites say they care about: trade, war, Wall St, and Israel to name four.

    Presumably, lunch bucket whites in the upper midwest will go Trump. But how many occupy types will do so?

    Or, how about unions? Will Trump get the endorsement of the Teamsters as Reagan did once? Can he expand beyond that?

    It’s clear that, assuming Trump is telling the truth about his positions, these people, unions and Bernie democrats, should vote for Trump. Will they?

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    Occupy? No, racism is a third rail for those people.

    Unions? Heck yeah.

    I also bet a lot of independents are going to go for the protectionism, isolationism, and Wall Street-bashing. The thing about Israel is that its opponents here in the USA don't care about it as much as its partisans do. (Well, some do, but they don't have the cash and influence of the Israel lobby.) Most Americans just don't care and are willing to toss them the money because they have lots of good publicity and seem vaguely more civilized than the other side. I doubt Trump is going to go hardcore anti-Israel--just not worth it. His 'I don't care' stance is really all he (and, IMHO, this country) needs.

  61. @slumber_j
    Off-topic: The WSJ examines Hamilton-panic among the East-Coast political elite:

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/whats-worse-than-getting-shot-by-aaron-burr-not-having-seen-hamilton-1457298388

    Updated March 6, 2016 7:50 p.m. ET

    In conversation after conversation at a Manhattan cocktail party last fall packed with political types, Melissa DeRosa found herself suddenly panicked.

    Ms. DeRosa, chief of staff to New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, pretended to check her phone for email or take a call, anything to avoid disclosing a painful, personal secret: She hadn’t seen “Hamilton.”

    In nearly every exchange, “this was the topic that came up during the first 15 minutes,” said Ms. DeRosa.

    In political circles in New York, Washington and elsewhere, seeing “Hamilton,” the Broadway hit musical about one of the nation’s earliest politicians, has become an essential barometer of professional coolness.

    People who figure out she hasn’t seen it tend to be appalled, Ms. DeRosa said. “It’s like the grown-up equivalent of sitting alone in the cafeteria.”

    “Hamilton” has proven wildly popular among general audiences. For people who work in politics, it holds a particular appeal that has left those who haven’t attended the musical—box-office tickets are sold out through January 2017—feeling like outcasts.

    Vice President Joe Biden and Treasury Secretary Jacob Lew have attended performances, New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio took in the show last summer and New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman has seen it twice.

    The show’s home, the Richard Rodgers Theatre, even serves as a venue for political fundraisers. President Barack Obama raised money there, as did Mr. Cuomo (“Thank you—you taught me about politics!” the governor scrawled on cardboard cutout of Hamilton on display backstage).

    All the fuss has created a sort of stage fright among some political aides, advisers and elected officials. Many admit to bouts of acute professional and social anxiety about being a Hamilton no-show.

    Jonathan Rosen, one of Mr. de Blasio’s closest outside advisers, is so self-conscious about his deficiency that he tries to fake his way through the inescapable “Hamilton” chitchat.

    “When someone brings it up I have no choice but to pretend I know what they’re talking about,” Mr. Rosen said.

    Even far from the East Coast corridors of power, “it’s a big part of conversation” among political operatives, said Bill Burton, a California-based consultant who was Mr. Obama’s deputy White House press secretary.

    “I had this short but very dedicated period of time where I was working every angle to get tickets,” Mr. Burton said. He finally scored a pair by calling in a favor from a friend who used to work in politics and now has Broadway connections. (Mr. Burton had given the friend tickets to the 2008 Obama inauguration.)

    The fact that Mr. Obama himself is a “Hamilton” devotee “makes it even more of a DC political thing that you have to do,” said Brian Krebs, the digital campaign director at Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.

    Mr. Krebs, who has made several attempts to secure tickets, admits he has “definite FOMO”—or, “fear of missing out”— over the situation, especially since a co-worker, who is aware of Mr. Krebs’s “Hamilton” deficit, often urges him to listen to the soundtrack, which both “helps and hurts the addiction,” he said.

    Julie Wood, a longtime aide to former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, recently accosted a political colleague at a party, imploring him to help her get a ticket. Ms. Wood said virtually all of her City Hall acquaintances have seen “Hamilton”—some multiple times—but she has yet to secure a ticket.

    “I feel like a fraud,” said Ms. Wood, who is now a spokeswoman for the crowdfunding platform Kickstarter. “And I feel like I don’t know anyone else who hasn’t seen it who will go with me.”

    “Hamilton” chronicles the early life and political travails of Alexander Hamilton, the country’s first Treasury secretary and one of America’s founding fathers. Through hip-hop and rap, the show charts Hamilton’s orphan upbringing through his fatal duel with adversary Aaron Burr. The show’s ability to lend modern relevance to the formative moments of American politics is especially alluring to those who work in today’s civic institutions.

    In addition to the musical’s roots in historical New York politics, it also has ties to contemporary political life. The father of the show’s star and creator, Lin-Manuel Miranda, is Luis Miranda Jr., a political consultant who served in three New York City mayoral administrations and now runs a firm with ties to many prominent elected officials, including New York state Assembly Speaker Carl Heastie.

    When Mr. Miranda attends social events these days, he says he is besieged by people begging for tickets. When the demands become particularly taxing, he hides in the kitchen or bathroom.

    Nearly two dozen requests he has received have come from sitting U.S. senators—a phenomenon he blames on New York Democratic Sen. Chuck Schumer, for whom he once worked.

    “Every single one of them said, ‘I spoke to Sen. Schumer,’ ” Mr. Miranda said. “ ‘The senator’s very proud of you and your son.’ ” A Schumer spokesman confirmed the senator’s advocacy.

    Many political types take their bragging rights seriously—displaying mild derision for those unable to, say, croon the lyrics to “Aaron Burr, Sir.”

    “Just buy the album and pretend you’ve seen it,” suggested Risa Heller, a public-affairs executive who was Mr. Schumer’s communications director and has seen “Hamilton” twice. “Save yourself the embarrassment!”

    For Ms. DeRosa, dodging “Hamilton” barbs has affected her work—so much so that she hasn’t returned certain phone calls “because I couldn’t handle the anxiety” of being harangued for her continued failure to see the show.

    Her suffering, she said, may be soon be over: “I just secured tickets to go at the end of April.”
     

    I find it hard to believe that “Hamilton” isn’t just another one of those things one is supposed to admire just because it’s “racist” not to admire it.

    I remember back in the day pointing out that Obama’s supposedly great oratory wasn’t all that, and, of course, being called “racist” for questioning its transcendent beauty.

    But when is the last time anyone has ever heard about how powerfully moving and exquisitely expressed are his speeches? Somehow, after he got elected, no one felt anymore they had to keep up the lie, and so the whole notion got dropped. I doubt that there’s anyone on earth who actually looks forward to listening to still another droning, boring, utterly predictable sermon from Obama.

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    • Agree: slumber_j
    • Replies: @keypusher
    A masterpiece is a masterpiece even if a million people say so. It's brilliant.
  62. @Bhroham
    Steve, earlier today I read what I think is a bang on comment on why blacks don't support Bernie (first comment):

    https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/48kyzj/why_are_black_americans_voting_for_hillary/

    "Fundamentally, Bernie's campaign does not seem to understand how the liberalism of black democrats differs from that of their white counterparts. Specifically, culture-war issues play a much smaller role, because that is one place where black and white Democrats do not align perfectly."

    "The reality is that "black liberalism" has historically existed hand-in-hand with religious belief, whereas "white liberalism" often exists in opposition to it."

    "Black Americans perceive - with justification - that their (our) economic standing is getting better, and therefore are more willing to stay-the-course. Bernie's pitch misses the mark because he wants to overthrow a system that is finally starting to work, in order to help us reclaim something we never had."

    It’s not that deep. Clinton is well known compared to Bernie in the black community. People forget she was beating Obama in polls among blacks before Iowa.

    It was only after he won Iowa which made him viable that blacks switched en masse towards him. Also black women, the drivers of the African-American vote, are hardcore into identity politics. Clinton has been going hard on that even co-opting obscure SJW lingo.

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    • Agree: Seamus Padraig
    • Replies: @Marcus
    Yes, I remember many of my black female classmates in college were fervently pro-Hillary, even the males seemed uninterested in the historical significance of Obama's candidacy.
  63. @Ed
    It's not that deep. Clinton is well known compared to Bernie in the black community. People forget she was beating Obama in polls among blacks before Iowa.

    It was only after he won Iowa which made him viable that blacks switched en masse towards him. Also black women, the drivers of the African-American vote, are hardcore into identity politics. Clinton has been going hard on that even co-opting obscure SJW lingo.

    Yes, I remember many of my black female classmates in college were fervently pro-Hillary, even the males seemed uninterested in the historical significance of Obama’s candidacy.

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  64. Up here in Canada we have at least three political parties at any one time and sometimes even five with seats in Parliament and a real chance to be the government or official opposition come the next election. If American party politics was as fluid as ours – or most other democracies – I wonder which alliances and coalitions would form? If both the Republicans and Democrats broke apart, what would be the new parties to take their place?

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    • Replies: @AP
    Republicans could split into something like the Progressive Conservatives in the Northeast and the Reform Party in the south and west. Sanders would head an NDP and Clinton the Liberals. America's PC's and Liberals could have a grand coalition to keep the "extremists" out of power.
  65. Slightly OT, but I think of interest with regard to Mitt Romney’s intrusion into the race. Two years ago Mitt Romney endorsed a plan (see: Count My Vote) that gutted Utah’s nominating process and “democratized” it with open primaries, and a way to bypass the state’s caucus/convention system. Mitt Romney endorsed the plan because he thought it would keep extremists (aka Mike Lee) from winning elections.

    What’s that got to do with the presidential election? Trump is doing best in states with open primaries, and it is caucus states that are doing a better job of blunting his appeal (most of the states won by Cruz or Rubio have been caucus states). And Romney has stated that, despite thinking the delegate system promotes extremism, he would be more than happy to accept the votes of delegates despite the fact that not a single actual voter will have cast a ballot for him.

    Anyway, for those interested in looking at a very blatant effort by the establishment to protect their own hides, the Count My Vote initiative – led by Mitt Romney’s ex-campaign manager, and endorsed by Mitt Romney himself – is one fairly stunning example.

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  66. I’m a lousy psychic but I’m going to make a prediction here. Come November, whether she loses or wins, Hillary will set a record for the lowest percentage of the white male vote ever won.

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  67. @TangoMan
    BernieLand is Portlandia writ large. Could Portland exist if it had the demographics of Birmingham? The liberals in Portland think so but I'm pretty sure that even the few remaining liberals in Birmingham probably see the folly of that vision.

    Depends on whether you’re talking about Portland, Oregon, or Portland, Maine.

    Portland, Maine, was 96% white in 1990, 85% white today.

    Maine is 95% white.

    Portland, Oregon, is only 76% white, and the city contains 2/3 of Oregon’s black population.

    Oregon: 78% white, 12% Hispanic.

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    • Replies: @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
    Portland, Oregon still has an ethnic composition that still guarantees relative tranquility... making a simulacrum of social cohesion possible.

    Portland, Ore. 2010 census population (rank): 583,776 (29); Male: 289,211 (49.5%); Female: 294,565 (50.5%); White: 444,216 (76.1%); Black: 36,695 (6.3%); American Indian and Alaska Native: 5,991 (1.0%); Asian: 41,692 (7.1%); Other race: 24,793 (4.2%); Two or more races: 27,280 (4.7%); Hispanic/Latino: 54,840 (9.4%).

    It is meaningless that the city is home to 2/3 of Oregon's almost negligible black population (not much more than 2% of all state residents).
    fore Progressive types sometimes complain that their city "isn't diverse enough." For example: http://www.portlandoccupier.org/2012/11/28/why-arent-there-more-black-people-in-oregon/

    If only they were aware of the consequences....
    , @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
    Alabama, Tennessee, Lousiana, Texas, Arkansas, Georgia, Virginia... These are states where Hillary has been winning against Bernie.

    What do these have in common? Not just the ethnic demographics... These are states where the candidate from the Democratic party has much weaker chances against any Republican. I wish some statistical whiz kid like Nate Silver would combine data from both polls and hate facts to reveal a real prognosis about where the election is going. If Hillary wins the nomination based on support from states that she has little chance of capturing in November, how likely is she to be able to count on the support of Bernie fans in the battleground states that actually will decide the general election?
    , @Jefferson
    "Depends on whether you’re talking about Portland, Oregon, or Portland, Maine.

    Portland, Maine, was 96% white in 1990, 85% white today.

    Maine is 95% white.

    Portland, Oregon, is only 76% white, and the city contains 2/3 of Oregon’s black population.

    Oregon: 78% white, 12% Hispanic."

    Portland, Oregon is still significantly Whiter than the nation as a whole.

    Also 76 percent White is still extremely White, especially when looking from the viewpoint of Sub Saharan eyes.

    Heck many Blacks in my hometown of San Francisco complain that this city is way too White and we are down to being 41 percent White.

    When even San Francisco is too White for the Dindu Nuffins, you know Portland, Oregon will be even more so.
  68. @Diversity Heretic
    The Republican Party may be pulled apart first (it might even be this election) but when the Democratic Party is finally pulled apart into racial subgroups, the division may be more irreconcilable and permanent.

    I thought the Dems were pulled apart as you say in the 1960s and 1970s with busing.

    That’s when a bunch went over to Nixon Republicanism. (Which the MSM so amply saved us from with their Saints Bernstein and Ellsberg, and their assignment of one muddy week at St. Yasgur’s milchik farm as the secular religious identity of every Baby Boomer.)

    Some came back for the Reaganismo dog-whistling in the ’80s that claimed to be about championing the interests of white workers–while throwing the borders further open, and championing Greenspanomics and globalismo to boot.

    The Dems today are a coalition of the aggrieved fringes, with the power accruing to the most loud/violent and the all-three-coasts government/media/Ed Biz classes. Two very different types of power.

    As the parties have become more market research oriented, they have become more demographic oriented. That makes both D and R not so much political parties as two competing market research/advertising firms. Their goal is to create demographic categories with invented interests, then flog individuals into identifying with them and reacting as the parties/research firms’ advertisers tell them to.

    We have a UniParty, and it is entirely mercantile.

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    • Agree: Bill
    • Replies: @SFG
    Your identification of market research with demographics is a brilliant point (and one I'd like to see Steve, with his background in market research, comment on). Everyone slices and dices by demographic because it's easy to figure out--personality differences like 'geeks versus jocks' are much harder to pin down, especially as a lot of people are neither or a mix of the two. I wonder how much the increased power of market research tools allowed the parties to focus on their preferred demographics?
  69. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    You should use this to predict how many states he and Clinton will win. There’s an article.

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  70. @AndrewR
    I'd feel bad for Bernie but he is a coward who lacks basic assertiveness (see: Seattle BLM) and the courage of his convictions (see: his unbelievably cucked campaign stances on race and immigration). Part of me enjoys watching sociopath Hillary tear him to shreds.

    So Bernie says “Let them eat cake!”. Tell me again, morons who want Sanders as VP, why this would be such a wonderful thing?

    The only way Scandinavian socialism functions as anything other than a long-term death sentence for the host population is to have Israeli-style border control and (if the border control is not in place from the beginning) some sort of repatriation policy in place. One could borrow the repatriation policy from Algeria, Zimbabwe or the former Soviet Union.

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    • Replies: @SFG
    I think a lot of people here appreciated that he had it in for the economic elites and didn't seem to hate white people--you know, the way the left used to be back in the fifties. (I also suspect a few of the more moderate alt-righters liked having a Jewish guy they could say was OK.) But...as Steve says, it's the Black Party now.

    I don't think you should vote for him. The point is, if *he were what the Democratic Party were offering*, it wouldn't be that bad, because he wasn't that hardcore on immigration, and less money for elites means less money to buy politicians and put crap like open borders in. He's better *as opposition*, because you can agree with 20% of what he says instead of 0.

    , @Big Bill
    Speaking for the Moron Community, Bernie as veep would (a) be in a position where he is utterly harmless, and (b) serve to splinter the Democratic Party merely by running on a ticket with Trump. Both of them running together might form the nucleus of a new party. But in any case, a joint run could dismember the Democratic and Republican parties. Heck, even if they lost, they could form a nucleus on which to build.
  71. @John Derbyshire
    The Somali language is related to Hebrew, too. They both belong to the Afro-Asiatic family. Bernie should work on this.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-35748986

    A US air strike has killed more than 150 al-Shabab militants in Somalia, the Pentagon says.
    Spokesman Captain Jeff Davis said the strike hit a training camp where a “large-scale” attack was being planned.
    “We know they were going to be departing the camp and they posed an imminent threat to US and [African Union] forces,” Captain Davis said.
    “Initial assessments are that more than 150 terrorist fighters were eliminated,” he added.

    Might be a bad day to caucus with the Somalis . Do they still think Barack Obama has “got their back” ??

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    • Replies: @NOTA
    And since western media are probably conveniently far away, if we just blew up a preschool or something, presumably we will never hear about our error.
    , @Thea
    2015 was a record year for civilian deaths in Afghanistan. The 7 th record breaking year in a row so it is on an upward trajectory. The death comes from above, courtesy of the USA.

    Yet Trump is the bad guy when it comes to treatment of Muslims.
  72. BTW the graph above is not linear. It is more like a hyperbola. Why are there so few Hillary lovers in a whitopia? It seems like there should be more of these style graphs in existence because one does not need a concentration of 70% black people (or non-whites) to begin to understand them and realize Hollywood has sold you a bill of goods. The 10+% seen in the above graph should be ample.

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  73. Keith Vaz [AKA "Hans"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Wouldn’t a great election tactic be to go to area with high concentrations of White people and fill it with posters of Hillary surrounded by Black people? Surely this would hammer the subliminal message that she is cucking her race. You wouldn’t say this is the reason, you’d attach it to a generic slogan.

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  74. @Tformation
    I have a lot of pro-Bernie people on my Facebook feed. I see a lot of the clickbait, "Bernie is really not that far back in terms of delegates" "The media is corrupt and in the tank for Hillary" and my favorite "45 Cities have marches of thousands for Bernie, Media ignores."

    Every time I see one of these, I love poking at the race issue with them. "Huh, doesn't look like any of those 45 cities with Bernie marches were in South Carolina... Or the south in general?"

    I even saw one meme with MLK's face, bemoaning the lack of support for Bernie for the black community. There's some great stuff on Reddit too of white liberals frustrated that blacks aren't voting for Bernie like they're supposed to.

    It's great theater. I love watching it. And I love asking the question: "Why? Why don't blacks support Bernie?"

    I'm waiting for someone to say the obvious: "Bernie's an old white Jew," but no one ever does. Doing so would be tacitly admitting a) most black people don't care about politics unless the politician is black and b) there is a rich mine of anti-semitism in the black community.

    “The media is corrupt and in the tank for Hillary” may well function as clickbait, but it is also just the facts.

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  75. anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Blacks are often good at sniffing out hypocrisy. They know Sanders voted with his feet to live in whiteopia. He didn’t care to have his child grow up in the vicinity of blacks and they know that also. Besides, Clinton is offering free stuff and Sanders is being rather abstract about it.

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    • Replies: @Big Bill
    Blacks may be good at sniffing out hypocrisy, but they are also phenomenal at not seeing it.

    Brown (of Brown v Board of Education) was determined to get out of the black community, live in a nice white neighborhood, get some nice white friends for his daughters, and get them into a white school.

    Yet he is a hero to black folks for his attempted Talented Tenth abandonment of the black community.
  76. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Ok, question.

    While Hillary may indeed be leading in delegates and states won, remember: Eventually she'll run out of states where blacks have a majority in the Democratic party. Like, what happens when the race turns west and the rest of the Plains/Mountain states?

    It may come down to Latinos in CA; AZ; NM. And also, WA; OR; ID; the Dakotas; don't have tons of blacks to vote for Hillary. So Bernie is gonna have to pick up the Latino vote in order to have a realistic chance at the nomination. All eyes will turn to the West to pick the Democratic candidate.

    Now see, on the other side, Trump can continually get the majority share of the total white vote in the primary states (which will be most of the states from hereon out) and he'll stay in the drivers seat.

    If he can't get a majority of the Latino vote, then Bernie will eventually run out of gas since there just aren't that many SWPL left in the party to vote for him.

    Funny how no one saw this coming in the party of McGovern. Could also be a harbinger of things to come: Hillary can't get the majority of whites to vote for her in her own party, so why should she expect to receive the majority of whites in the country to vote for her come November?

    And, ca.70% of the total white vote will not vote for her. It will go to Trump.

    And, ca.70% of the total white vote will not vote for her. It will go to Trump.

    Richard Nixon in 1972 did not get 70% of the white vote. Ronald Reagan in 1984 did not get 70% of the white vote. They didn’t even get 70% of the white male vote.

    Donald Trump is not going to get 70% of the white vote.

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/03/donald-trump-needs-7-of-10-white-guys-213699

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    • Replies: @The Practical Conservative
    That article is wish casting. Trump doesn't need 70 percent of the white vote to beat hillary. He is guaranteed Romney turnout because any nominee is and he is certainly not getting lower minority turnout than any republican ever. That cuts both ways.
    , @Bill
    Depends how racialized the election becomes. Mittens got 84% of the white vote in Alabama. http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/state/AL/president/

    Ethnic bloc voting is normal in multiethnic societies. At some point American whites are going to realize they live in a multiethnic society and start with the bloc voting. It's easier to realize in AL.
  77. @candid_observer
    I find it hard to believe that "Hamilton" isn't just another one of those things one is supposed to admire just because it's "racist" not to admire it.

    I remember back in the day pointing out that Obama's supposedly great oratory wasn't all that, and, of course, being called "racist" for questioning its transcendent beauty.

    But when is the last time anyone has ever heard about how powerfully moving and exquisitely expressed are his speeches? Somehow, after he got elected, no one felt anymore they had to keep up the lie, and so the whole notion got dropped. I doubt that there's anyone on earth who actually looks forward to listening to still another droning, boring, utterly predictable sermon from Obama.

    A masterpiece is a masterpiece even if a million people say so. It’s brilliant.

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    • Replies: @candid_observer
    I keep looking for some lyrics from Hamilton that would make me think, that's some clever or evocative writing. I never seem to encounter them--just really humdrum stuff.

    In contrast, I can look at any lyrics by Cole Porter or Stephen Sondheim, or any of the famous musicals in the mid twentieth century, and see immediately what the big deal was about.

    And the music is, what, rap? Where's the "masterpiece" in that?

  78. @Seamus Padraig

    “The reality is that “black liberalism” has historically existed hand-in-hand with religious belief, whereas “white liberalism” often exists in opposition to it.”
     
    That's true, but it doesn't explain the black vote in this case. Bernie isn't much of a culture-warrior, and he certainly isn't running against religion; he running against Wall Street. Anyway, what makes Hellary the spokeswoman for black religion?

    Well I think the comment as a whole is quite accurate. Basically Sanders is advocating for a socialist vision of several decades ago, that to some extent, did exist for white Americans. Blacks are actually optimistic economically, so aren’t too concerned about the banks etc. And as Steve has said before, Sander’s abstract promises of justice aren’t as compelling as Clinton, wife of the ‘first black president’ and anointed heir to the real first black president.

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    • Replies: @Twirlip

    Blacks are actually optimistic economically
     
    I can't imagine why, since by every economic measure they continue to lag far behind everyone else, even recently poor immigrant groups. For example

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/black-opportunity-wealth_us_568c44cee4b0c8beacf4a391

    Pay special attention to the section headed "Most Black Middle Class Kids Are Downwardly Mobile".
    , @Seamus Padraig
    I think you're now getting closer to the mark. But very little of that has much to do with religion. That was my point.
    , @Brutusale
    Economic Dunning-Kruger.
  79. 87% is a huge R^2 in social science!

    Nonetheless, Bernie’s vote in the black-rich states was further hurt by the general rightward lean of whites in those states.

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    • Replies: @SFG
    Technically, an r=-0.87 gives an R-squared of 0.76. Which is still yuge (Bernie says it too) in the social sciences.
  80. @anonymous-antimarxist
    The "BernieBros" reverse gender gap???


    Bernie Sanders riding major gender gap, leads Hillary Clinton in Iowa: poll

    The Quinnipiac survey found that Democratic men are breaking for Mr. Sanders by a two-to-one ratio. More than 60 percent of men back Mr. Sanders, while just 30 percent support Mrs. Clinton.
     
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jan/12/sanders-riding-major-gender-gap-leads-clinton-iowa/?page=all

    Any more recent post election poll data???

    I don’t know if that’s just a crazy poll, sloppy writing (possibly taking “late deciders” as indicative of the electorate as a whole) or what, but there is no way that a gender gap that big between two Democrats exists on any kind of meaningful scale. That kind of gender gap wouldn’t exist in a single state, never mind the country.

    The normal gender gap between Republicans and Democrats is 7-8% (that is, the Republican gets 7-8% less percent of the women’s vote than the men’s, or put another way if the Republican is getting 46% of the women he’s getting around 53% of the men). A national poll recently had a 21% gender gap for Clinton v. Trump, which is enormous. And you’re telling me that the gender gap between Clinton and Sanders is way bigger than that? NFW. Never mind plausibility, it’s a mathematical impossibility given the margins of some of her recent primary wins.

    Steve, who knows a lot about polling and demographic realities, owes his readers a post about this. There’s magical thinking on display in some of these comments.

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    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Apples to oranges. Hillary's campaign exemplifies everything wrong with feminism. Not only does she push the standard feminist lies but she takes it to the next level with stunts like letting Lena Dunham comandeer her Twitter account. She also responded to Sanders' claims that she's an establishment candidate with a faux-shocked response of "Establishment?? I'm a woman running for president of the United States!"

    Her campaign strategy is in large part "vote for me because I have a pussy"

    , @anonymous-antimarxist

    Steve, who knows a lot about polling and demographic realities, owes his readers a post about this. There’s magical thinking on display in some of these comments.
     
    I agree.

    Still it was a Quinnipiac poll.

    But I too would like to see several polls corroborate the same results.

    However, it seems to make basic sense to me. As a male I find Hillary repulsive as a likely Merkel clone. And I strongly believe if elected Hillary would wreck the country with IW3 policies because she will have a ego maniacal drive to leave her mark like Dubya did and likely to come under the influence of Neocons.

    I think lots of BernieBro SWPLs suspect the same thing and could break for Trump.
    , @ben tillman

    The normal gender gap between Republicans and Democrats is 7-8% (that is, the Republican gets 7-8% less percent of the women’s vote than the men’s, or put another way if the Republican is getting 46% of the women he’s getting around 53% of the men). A national poll recently had a 21% gender gap for Clinton v. Trump, which is enormous. And you’re telling me that the gender gap between Clinton and Sanders is way bigger than that? NFW. Never mind plausibility, it’s a mathematical impossibility given the margins of some of her recent primary wins.
     
    In South Carolina, Sanders got 56% of the small number of White men and 40% of the White women who voted in the Democratic primary.
  81. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Ok, question.

    While Hillary may indeed be leading in delegates and states won, remember: Eventually she'll run out of states where blacks have a majority in the Democratic party. Like, what happens when the race turns west and the rest of the Plains/Mountain states?

    It may come down to Latinos in CA; AZ; NM. And also, WA; OR; ID; the Dakotas; don't have tons of blacks to vote for Hillary. So Bernie is gonna have to pick up the Latino vote in order to have a realistic chance at the nomination. All eyes will turn to the West to pick the Democratic candidate.

    Now see, on the other side, Trump can continually get the majority share of the total white vote in the primary states (which will be most of the states from hereon out) and he'll stay in the drivers seat.

    If he can't get a majority of the Latino vote, then Bernie will eventually run out of gas since there just aren't that many SWPL left in the party to vote for him.

    Funny how no one saw this coming in the party of McGovern. Could also be a harbinger of things to come: Hillary can't get the majority of whites to vote for her in her own party, so why should she expect to receive the majority of whites in the country to vote for her come November?

    And, ca.70% of the total white vote will not vote for her. It will go to Trump.

    Funny how no one saw this coming in the party of McGovern.

    What makes you think they didn’t? I remember Bill Clinton in the 90s looking fondly toward the day when there would no longer be a white minority in the country as a whole. I suspect he was bright enough to see it would happen in the Democratic Party first.

    Could also be a harbinger of things to come: Hillary can’t get the majority of whites to vote for her in her own party, so why should she expect to receive the majority of whites in the country to vote for her come November?

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but no Democrat has gotten an absolute majority of the white vote since Lyndon Johnson. Hasn’t kept them from winning elections.

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  82. @anonymous-antimarxist
    Any data that Steve could use to support the alleged "BernieBros" phenomena???

    What percentage of Bernie supporters are Male??? Does Bernie have a gender gap???

    BernieLand is Portlandia writ large.
     
    A trending meme on the Alt Right is that BernieBros are an extremely ripe population for "RED PILLING".

    Trolling SPWL sites with graphs like Steve's here along with info on SJWs and the Open Borders crowds plans for massive demographic change in their Whitopian redoubts could pay off big time.

    Of course lots of SWPL beta males will have to resort to keeping their plans to vote Trump in the general election very secret unless they risk getting kicked to couch by their Hillary supporting cat lady SOs.

    BernieBros need to be reminded that as soon as Hillary gets done "Merkeling America", overnight Portlandia will be a thing of the past.

    And yes the verb "Merkeling" is trending big time as well.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Merkeling%22&oq=%22Merkeling%22&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8

    An Alt-Right parody of a post Merkeled Portlandia would be an hilarious troll in and of itself and an effective "RED PILL".

    Imagine a "Battle of the Quiet Bands" being wrecked by a competing "Battle of the Mariachis" in the same park with dozens of "SYRIAN" Rapefugees thrown in for good measure.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyL-iJQSk5A

    http://www.missionsjc.com/events-venue/signature-events/battle-of-the-mariachis/

    Hilarious comment and hilarious clip. Portlandia is brilliant.

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  83. Well, chalk me up with those who think that blacks opting for Hillary over Sanders is mostly simple inertia. Hillary was a few orders of magnitude more famous than Sanders before this interminable campaign began. This is a pretty big obstacle to overcome, particularly when dealing with a not terribly well-informed electorate. Hillary’s pandering has probably had some impact, and Sanders being Jewish probably drives away a few, but mostly it was just that Hillary already had them in the bag, so why change? Both offer blacks exactly the same thing i.e. more money for blacks, the right to blame whitey for everything etc. It’s not that they oppose Sanders’ idiosyncrasies, they just aren’t inspired by them either. But who knows, I’m mostly just guessing.

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    What fraction of voters do you think know anything about Sanders' history of positions? I'm guessing less than 10%.
  84. @keypusher
    A masterpiece is a masterpiece even if a million people say so. It's brilliant.

    I keep looking for some lyrics from Hamilton that would make me think, that’s some clever or evocative writing. I never seem to encounter them–just really humdrum stuff.

    In contrast, I can look at any lyrics by Cole Porter or Stephen Sondheim, or any of the famous musicals in the mid twentieth century, and see immediately what the big deal was about.

    And the music is, what, rap? Where’s the “masterpiece” in that?

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    • Replies: @Bill
    I take it I should be happy that I have no idea what you guys are talking about?
    , @keypusher
    The opening number is an incredible bit of expostition. I think Cabinet Battle 1 is pretty brilliant.

    http://genius.com/Lin-manuel-miranda-cabinet-battle-1-lyrics

    My wife, who used to be a professional singer, thinks "Satisfied" is incredible, not to mention an amazing challenge to sing.

    Miranda does a great job of using the run-on rhythms of rapping to reflect the title's character's verbosity, drive, and ambition -- he talks so fast because he's got so much to say, he's in such a terrible hurry and he doesn't have a lot of time.

    It's not all rap, either. There's a mix of styles, including a nice piece of 60s Britpop from the king of England ("You'll Be Back").

    Best thing is to see it, if you can, and judge for yourself.
  85. @keypusher
    I don't know if that's just a crazy poll, sloppy writing (possibly taking "late deciders" as indicative of the electorate as a whole) or what, but there is no way that a gender gap that big between two Democrats exists on any kind of meaningful scale. That kind of gender gap wouldn't exist in a single state, never mind the country.

    The normal gender gap between Republicans and Democrats is 7-8% (that is, the Republican gets 7-8% less percent of the women's vote than the men's, or put another way if the Republican is getting 46% of the women he's getting around 53% of the men). A national poll recently had a 21% gender gap for Clinton v. Trump, which is enormous. And you're telling me that the gender gap between Clinton and Sanders is way bigger than that? NFW. Never mind plausibility, it's a mathematical impossibility given the margins of some of her recent primary wins.

    Steve, who knows a lot about polling and demographic realities, owes his readers a post about this. There's magical thinking on display in some of these comments.

    Apples to oranges. Hillary’s campaign exemplifies everything wrong with feminism. Not only does she push the standard feminist lies but she takes it to the next level with stunts like letting Lena Dunham comandeer her Twitter account. She also responded to Sanders’ claims that she’s an establishment candidate with a faux-shocked response of “Establishment?? I’m a woman running for president of the United States!”

    Her campaign strategy is in large part “vote for me because I have a pussy”

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    • Replies: @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...
    "Her campaign strategy is in large part “vote for me because I have a pussy”.
    Dear God man! Why did you have to mention Hillary's reproductive organs?
    , @Former Darfur
    Her campaign strategy is in large part “vote for me because I have a pussy”
    "And, it's only been used once!"
    , @Mr. Anon
    "Her campaign strategy is in large part “vote for me because I have a pussy”"

    And Bernie's might as well be "vote for me because I am one." Turns out that was also Bush's and Kasich's too.
  86. @The Z Blog
    There's always been this weird internal contradiction with white liberals. They loved diversity from a great distance. Ken Burns, the Leni Riefenstahl of modern liberalism, moved to Walpole New Hampshire from Brooklyn. If not for the 50 Hispanic maids, nannies and gardeners, Walpole would be 99% white. There are 10 black people there according to the census.

    Of course, this is pretty much a Yankeedom thing. They are perfectly willing to treat non-whites as equals as long as they don't have to live anywhere near them. When I lived in the South, I always enjoyed when my Yankee friends would visit. They would see black people up close in numbers they simply could not fathom.

    Yep, there is a lot more everyday mixing of blacks and whites in the South. Shocks me every time I go to NC.

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  87. @The Z Blog
    There's always been this weird internal contradiction with white liberals. They loved diversity from a great distance. Ken Burns, the Leni Riefenstahl of modern liberalism, moved to Walpole New Hampshire from Brooklyn. If not for the 50 Hispanic maids, nannies and gardeners, Walpole would be 99% white. There are 10 black people there according to the census.

    Of course, this is pretty much a Yankeedom thing. They are perfectly willing to treat non-whites as equals as long as they don't have to live anywhere near them. When I lived in the South, I always enjoyed when my Yankee friends would visit. They would see black people up close in numbers they simply could not fathom.

    Of course, this is pretty much a Yankeedom thing. They are perfectly willing to treat non-whites as equals as long as they don’t have to live anywhere near them

    It’s good-natured naivety, as in Scandinavia or Scotland. Without experience, they assume that all people are fundamentally alike. Yankees or Scandinavians aren’t likely to abuse the system, why would anyone else? And helping one’s neighbor when his neighbor is truly in need is a good thing that decent people do, per European culture. If you want European areas that are non-diverse, you’re eventually going to end up with this kind of liberalism as a byproduct.

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  88. @anonymous-antimarxist
    Any data that Steve could use to support the alleged "BernieBros" phenomena???

    What percentage of Bernie supporters are Male??? Does Bernie have a gender gap???

    BernieLand is Portlandia writ large.
     
    A trending meme on the Alt Right is that BernieBros are an extremely ripe population for "RED PILLING".

    Trolling SPWL sites with graphs like Steve's here along with info on SJWs and the Open Borders crowds plans for massive demographic change in their Whitopian redoubts could pay off big time.

    Of course lots of SWPL beta males will have to resort to keeping their plans to vote Trump in the general election very secret unless they risk getting kicked to couch by their Hillary supporting cat lady SOs.

    BernieBros need to be reminded that as soon as Hillary gets done "Merkeling America", overnight Portlandia will be a thing of the past.

    And yes the verb "Merkeling" is trending big time as well.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Merkeling%22&oq=%22Merkeling%22&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8

    An Alt-Right parody of a post Merkeled Portlandia would be an hilarious troll in and of itself and an effective "RED PILL".

    Imagine a "Battle of the Quiet Bands" being wrecked by a competing "Battle of the Mariachis" in the same park with dozens of "SYRIAN" Rapefugees thrown in for good measure.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyL-iJQSk5A

    http://www.missionsjc.com/events-venue/signature-events/battle-of-the-mariachis/

    Perhaps Trump should reach out to SWPL hipsters.

    “Make Pabst Great Again!”

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    Personally I am more of an Old Style fan, the other Pabst Brewing brand.

    Either one would work though.
  89. @Cagey Beast
    Up here in Canada we have at least three political parties at any one time and sometimes even five with seats in Parliament and a real chance to be the government or official opposition come the next election. If American party politics was as fluid as ours - or most other democracies - I wonder which alliances and coalitions would form? If both the Republicans and Democrats broke apart, what would be the new parties to take their place?

    Republicans could split into something like the Progressive Conservatives in the Northeast and the Reform Party in the south and west. Sanders would head an NDP and Clinton the Liberals. America’s PC’s and Liberals could have a grand coalition to keep the “extremists” out of power.

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  90. @Shine a Light
    Bernie Sanders denied white poverty during the debate last night!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMsjo_Pi8pQ


    So to answer your question, I would say, and I think it’s similar to what the secretary said, when you’re white, you don’t know what it’s like to be living in a ghetto. You don’t know what it’s like to be poor. You don’t know what it’s like to be hassled when you walk down the street or you get dragged out of a car.
     
    Mitt Romney insulted 47% of Americans when he called them deadbeat slackers. Now Bernie Sanders has insulted 67% of people living in poverty by denying the very existence of 31 million poor white people! This is White Poverty Denialism. I have news for you Bernie, the stomachs of poor white children Feel the Bern of hunger just as much as stomachs of color do.

    Sanders seems to be pushing a form of Bourgeois Socialism for middle class and upper middle class whites who will get free universities and an organic farmer's market on every corner while the very existence of poor whites will be swept away into the dustbin of history.

    Poverty eradication by decree!

    Sigh. BLM made him do it. I knew it couldn’t last. Funny how they used to tell us back in the eighties we were supposed to be colorblind, but now the last guy to actually try to run a colorblind campaign gets forced to repent.

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  91. @International Jew
    87% is a huge R^2 in social science!

    Nonetheless, Bernie's vote in the black-rich states was further hurt by the general rightward lean of whites in those states.

    Technically, an r=-0.87 gives an R-squared of 0.76. Which is still yuge (Bernie says it too) in the social sciences.

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  92. @Bhroham
    Well I think the comment as a whole is quite accurate. Basically Sanders is advocating for a socialist vision of several decades ago, that to some extent, did exist for white Americans. Blacks are actually optimistic economically, so aren't too concerned about the banks etc. And as Steve has said before, Sander's abstract promises of justice aren't as compelling as Clinton, wife of the 'first black president' and anointed heir to the real first black president.

    Blacks are actually optimistic economically

    I can’t imagine why, since by every economic measure they continue to lag far behind everyone else, even recently poor immigrant groups. For example

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/black-opportunity-wealth_us_568c44cee4b0c8beacf4a391

    Pay special attention to the section headed “Most Black Middle Class Kids Are Downwardly Mobile”.

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    Single motherhood isn't middle class even if the single mother has a good job.
    , @Big Bill
    The Talented Tenth are upwardly mobile. But they need to be able to stand on the backs of poor black folks to move up.
  93. @Anonym
    So Bernie says "Let them eat cake!". Tell me again, morons who want Sanders as VP, why this would be such a wonderful thing?

    The only way Scandinavian socialism functions as anything other than a long-term death sentence for the host population is to have Israeli-style border control and (if the border control is not in place from the beginning) some sort of repatriation policy in place. One could borrow the repatriation policy from Algeria, Zimbabwe or the former Soviet Union.

    I think a lot of people here appreciated that he had it in for the economic elites and didn’t seem to hate white people–you know, the way the left used to be back in the fifties. (I also suspect a few of the more moderate alt-righters liked having a Jewish guy they could say was OK.) But…as Steve says, it’s the Black Party now.

    I don’t think you should vote for him. The point is, if *he were what the Democratic Party were offering*, it wouldn’t be that bad, because he wasn’t that hardcore on immigration, and less money for elites means less money to buy politicians and put crap like open borders in. He’s better *as opposition*, because you can agree with 20% of what he says instead of 0.

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    • Replies: @NOTA
    There aren't any candidates running with whom I agree all that consistently. I'd prefer Sanders to anyone else on foreign policy and war on terror stuff--he seems more excited about hassling big banks than bombing third world peasants. I don't trust Trump as far as I could throw him, though at least he seems less inclined to get us into another war than Rubio or Cruz.
  94. @The Alarmist
    And yet the Bern was out there in the sixties chained to black protestors and getting hauled of with them by the police, while Hillary was boosting Goldwater. Shows you what good marketing can do to move even a lemon ....

    Most citizens, and even most voters, don’t know much about the candidates or the issues. That’s why politics looks the way it does.

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  95. @keypusher
    I don't know if that's just a crazy poll, sloppy writing (possibly taking "late deciders" as indicative of the electorate as a whole) or what, but there is no way that a gender gap that big between two Democrats exists on any kind of meaningful scale. That kind of gender gap wouldn't exist in a single state, never mind the country.

    The normal gender gap between Republicans and Democrats is 7-8% (that is, the Republican gets 7-8% less percent of the women's vote than the men's, or put another way if the Republican is getting 46% of the women he's getting around 53% of the men). A national poll recently had a 21% gender gap for Clinton v. Trump, which is enormous. And you're telling me that the gender gap between Clinton and Sanders is way bigger than that? NFW. Never mind plausibility, it's a mathematical impossibility given the margins of some of her recent primary wins.

    Steve, who knows a lot about polling and demographic realities, owes his readers a post about this. There's magical thinking on display in some of these comments.

    Steve, who knows a lot about polling and demographic realities, owes his readers a post about this. There’s magical thinking on display in some of these comments.

    I agree.

    Still it was a Quinnipiac poll.

    But I too would like to see several polls corroborate the same results.

    However, it seems to make basic sense to me. As a male I find Hillary repulsive as a likely Merkel clone. And I strongly believe if elected Hillary would wreck the country with IW3 policies because she will have a ego maniacal drive to leave her mark like Dubya did and likely to come under the influence of Neocons.

    I think lots of BernieBro SWPLs suspect the same thing and could break for Trump.

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  96. @candid_observer
    It might be worthwhile to consider some of the nuances in Sanders' white support.

    I looked over the recent map of those towns in Massachusetts in which Sanders won vs. where Hillary won. Unsurprisingly, Hillary won in the typical urban areas with typically larger numbers of non-white voters. But, surprisingly to me, she also won, and by good measure, those towns that where overwhelming white upper-middle class. Sanders won only in the white towns, but they fell into two categories: the SWPL whites of the many college towns (Amherst, etc. in western Mass) , and the working class whites and rural whites in the many less urban towns in Mass. Now those working class whites are about as far from standard SWPLs and "progressives" as one can get. My guess is that such whites are registering their disgust with establishment candidates by voting for Sanders. Such whites would probably be pretty easy to peel off for another outsider candidate such as Trump, probably particularly because so many of his positions are centrist or populist.

    Yeah. Sanders is an old-style economic liberal, I could see a lot of the old union guys going for him, or blue-collar types who might be open to Trump.

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    He probably lost old union guys or blue collar types when he caved in to BLM. I know a couple of old-school white, union democrats who hate republicans. But after Ferguson they see the dems as the black party. Bernie's cowardice turned them off and added to their newfound perception. They are enthusiastically behind Trump.
  97. @Laugh Track
    Speaking of hacking, I've noticed for at least a few weeks, that going to AmRen.com often (but not always) brings up a full screen pop-up ad for MacKeeper which you can't get out of without clicking on an ambiguous OK/Cancel choice, where either choice could conceivably start downloading MacKeeper. So, one has to force quit out of the browser to escape.

    That program is infamous borderline malware (in the guise of helping to clean up your Mac). I don't know if this is a site hack or not, but if it is an advertiser that AmRen has actually contracted with, they are really doing a disservice to their readers.

    Just one more reason why web ads are evil. (The tracking is even harder to avoid than the malware.)

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  98. @slumber_j
    Off-topic: The WSJ examines Hamilton-panic among the East-Coast political elite:

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/whats-worse-than-getting-shot-by-aaron-burr-not-having-seen-hamilton-1457298388

    Updated March 6, 2016 7:50 p.m. ET

    In conversation after conversation at a Manhattan cocktail party last fall packed with political types, Melissa DeRosa found herself suddenly panicked.

    Ms. DeRosa, chief of staff to New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, pretended to check her phone for email or take a call, anything to avoid disclosing a painful, personal secret: She hadn’t seen “Hamilton.”

    In nearly every exchange, “this was the topic that came up during the first 15 minutes,” said Ms. DeRosa.

    In political circles in New York, Washington and elsewhere, seeing “Hamilton,” the Broadway hit musical about one of the nation’s earliest politicians, has become an essential barometer of professional coolness.

    People who figure out she hasn’t seen it tend to be appalled, Ms. DeRosa said. “It’s like the grown-up equivalent of sitting alone in the cafeteria.”

    “Hamilton” has proven wildly popular among general audiences. For people who work in politics, it holds a particular appeal that has left those who haven’t attended the musical—box-office tickets are sold out through January 2017—feeling like outcasts.

    Vice President Joe Biden and Treasury Secretary Jacob Lew have attended performances, New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio took in the show last summer and New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman has seen it twice.

    The show’s home, the Richard Rodgers Theatre, even serves as a venue for political fundraisers. President Barack Obama raised money there, as did Mr. Cuomo (“Thank you—you taught me about politics!” the governor scrawled on cardboard cutout of Hamilton on display backstage).

    All the fuss has created a sort of stage fright among some political aides, advisers and elected officials. Many admit to bouts of acute professional and social anxiety about being a Hamilton no-show.

    Jonathan Rosen, one of Mr. de Blasio’s closest outside advisers, is so self-conscious about his deficiency that he tries to fake his way through the inescapable “Hamilton” chitchat.

    “When someone brings it up I have no choice but to pretend I know what they’re talking about,” Mr. Rosen said.

    Even far from the East Coast corridors of power, “it’s a big part of conversation” among political operatives, said Bill Burton, a California-based consultant who was Mr. Obama’s deputy White House press secretary.

    “I had this short but very dedicated period of time where I was working every angle to get tickets,” Mr. Burton said. He finally scored a pair by calling in a favor from a friend who used to work in politics and now has Broadway connections. (Mr. Burton had given the friend tickets to the 2008 Obama inauguration.)

    The fact that Mr. Obama himself is a “Hamilton” devotee “makes it even more of a DC political thing that you have to do,” said Brian Krebs, the digital campaign director at Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.

    Mr. Krebs, who has made several attempts to secure tickets, admits he has “definite FOMO”—or, “fear of missing out”— over the situation, especially since a co-worker, who is aware of Mr. Krebs’s “Hamilton” deficit, often urges him to listen to the soundtrack, which both “helps and hurts the addiction,” he said.

    Julie Wood, a longtime aide to former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, recently accosted a political colleague at a party, imploring him to help her get a ticket. Ms. Wood said virtually all of her City Hall acquaintances have seen “Hamilton”—some multiple times—but she has yet to secure a ticket.

    “I feel like a fraud,” said Ms. Wood, who is now a spokeswoman for the crowdfunding platform Kickstarter. “And I feel like I don’t know anyone else who hasn’t seen it who will go with me.”

    “Hamilton” chronicles the early life and political travails of Alexander Hamilton, the country’s first Treasury secretary and one of America’s founding fathers. Through hip-hop and rap, the show charts Hamilton’s orphan upbringing through his fatal duel with adversary Aaron Burr. The show’s ability to lend modern relevance to the formative moments of American politics is especially alluring to those who work in today’s civic institutions.

    In addition to the musical’s roots in historical New York politics, it also has ties to contemporary political life. The father of the show’s star and creator, Lin-Manuel Miranda, is Luis Miranda Jr., a political consultant who served in three New York City mayoral administrations and now runs a firm with ties to many prominent elected officials, including New York state Assembly Speaker Carl Heastie.

    When Mr. Miranda attends social events these days, he says he is besieged by people begging for tickets. When the demands become particularly taxing, he hides in the kitchen or bathroom.

    Nearly two dozen requests he has received have come from sitting U.S. senators—a phenomenon he blames on New York Democratic Sen. Chuck Schumer, for whom he once worked.

    “Every single one of them said, ‘I spoke to Sen. Schumer,’ ” Mr. Miranda said. “ ‘The senator’s very proud of you and your son.’ ” A Schumer spokesman confirmed the senator’s advocacy.

    Many political types take their bragging rights seriously—displaying mild derision for those unable to, say, croon the lyrics to “Aaron Burr, Sir.”

    “Just buy the album and pretend you’ve seen it,” suggested Risa Heller, a public-affairs executive who was Mr. Schumer’s communications director and has seen “Hamilton” twice. “Save yourself the embarrassment!”

    For Ms. DeRosa, dodging “Hamilton” barbs has affected her work—so much so that she hasn’t returned certain phone calls “because I couldn’t handle the anxiety” of being harangued for her continued failure to see the show.

    Her suffering, she said, may be soon be over: “I just secured tickets to go at the end of April.”
     

    She should just talk less and smile more.

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  99. @Olorin
    I thought the Dems were pulled apart as you say in the 1960s and 1970s with busing.

    That's when a bunch went over to Nixon Republicanism. (Which the MSM so amply saved us from with their Saints Bernstein and Ellsberg, and their assignment of one muddy week at St. Yasgur's milchik farm as the secular religious identity of every Baby Boomer.)

    Some came back for the Reaganismo dog-whistling in the '80s that claimed to be about championing the interests of white workers--while throwing the borders further open, and championing Greenspanomics and globalismo to boot.

    The Dems today are a coalition of the aggrieved fringes, with the power accruing to the most loud/violent and the all-three-coasts government/media/Ed Biz classes. Two very different types of power.

    As the parties have become more market research oriented, they have become more demographic oriented. That makes both D and R not so much political parties as two competing market research/advertising firms. Their goal is to create demographic categories with invented interests, then flog individuals into identifying with them and reacting as the parties/research firms' advertisers tell them to.

    We have a UniParty, and it is entirely mercantile.

    Your identification of market research with demographics is a brilliant point (and one I’d like to see Steve, with his background in market research, comment on). Everyone slices and dices by demographic because it’s easy to figure out–personality differences like ‘geeks versus jocks’ are much harder to pin down, especially as a lot of people are neither or a mix of the two. I wonder how much the increased power of market research tools allowed the parties to focus on their preferred demographics?

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    The information to do a really good job on market research is out there, in the hands of the Googles, Amazons, banks and telecoms.
  100. @marwan
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-35748986

    A US air strike has killed more than 150 al-Shabab militants in Somalia, the Pentagon says.
    Spokesman Captain Jeff Davis said the strike hit a training camp where a "large-scale" attack was being planned.
    "We know they were going to be departing the camp and they posed an imminent threat to US and [African Union] forces," Captain Davis said.
    "Initial assessments are that more than 150 terrorist fighters were eliminated," he added.
     
    Might be a bad day to caucus with the Somalis . Do they still think Barack Obama has "got their back" ??

    And since western media are probably conveniently far away, if we just blew up a preschool or something, presumably we will never hear about our error.

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  101. @White Guy In Japan
    Perhaps Trump should reach out to SWPL hipsters.

    "Make Pabst Great Again!"

    Personally I am more of an Old Style fan, the other Pabst Brewing brand.

    Either one would work though.

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  102. @keypusher
    And, ca.70% of the total white vote will not vote for her. It will go to Trump.

    Richard Nixon in 1972 did not get 70% of the white vote. Ronald Reagan in 1984 did not get 70% of the white vote. They didn't even get 70% of the white male vote.

    Donald Trump is not going to get 70% of the white vote.

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/03/donald-trump-needs-7-of-10-white-guys-213699

    That article is wish casting. Trump doesn’t need 70 percent of the white vote to beat hillary. He is guaranteed Romney turnout because any nominee is and he is certainly not getting lower minority turnout than any republican ever. That cuts both ways.

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  103. @HEL
    Well, chalk me up with those who think that blacks opting for Hillary over Sanders is mostly simple inertia. Hillary was a few orders of magnitude more famous than Sanders before this interminable campaign began. This is a pretty big obstacle to overcome, particularly when dealing with a not terribly well-informed electorate. Hillary's pandering has probably had some impact, and Sanders being Jewish probably drives away a few, but mostly it was just that Hillary already had them in the bag, so why change? Both offer blacks exactly the same thing i.e. more money for blacks, the right to blame whitey for everything etc. It's not that they oppose Sanders' idiosyncrasies, they just aren't inspired by them either. But who knows, I'm mostly just guessing.

    What fraction of voters do you think know anything about Sanders’ history of positions? I’m guessing less than 10%.

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  104. @Bill
    It will be interesting to see if any white Sanders supporters can be won over for Trump. Trump will be running to the left of Hillary on several issues that lefty whites say they care about: trade, war, Wall St, and Israel to name four.

    Presumably, lunch bucket whites in the upper midwest will go Trump. But how many occupy types will do so?

    Or, how about unions? Will Trump get the endorsement of the Teamsters as Reagan did once? Can he expand beyond that?

    It's clear that, assuming Trump is telling the truth about his positions, these people, unions and Bernie democrats, should vote for Trump. Will they?

    Occupy? No, racism is a third rail for those people.

    Unions? Heck yeah.

    I also bet a lot of independents are going to go for the protectionism, isolationism, and Wall Street-bashing. The thing about Israel is that its opponents here in the USA don’t care about it as much as its partisans do. (Well, some do, but they don’t have the cash and influence of the Israel lobby.) Most Americans just don’t care and are willing to toss them the money because they have lots of good publicity and seem vaguely more civilized than the other side. I doubt Trump is going to go hardcore anti-Israel–just not worth it. His ‘I don’t care’ stance is really all he (and, IMHO, this country) needs.

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  105. @Twirlip

    Blacks are actually optimistic economically
     
    I can't imagine why, since by every economic measure they continue to lag far behind everyone else, even recently poor immigrant groups. For example

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/black-opportunity-wealth_us_568c44cee4b0c8beacf4a391

    Pay special attention to the section headed "Most Black Middle Class Kids Are Downwardly Mobile".

    Single motherhood isn’t middle class even if the single mother has a good job.

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  106. @candid_observer
    It might be worthwhile to consider some of the nuances in Sanders' white support.

    I looked over the recent map of those towns in Massachusetts in which Sanders won vs. where Hillary won. Unsurprisingly, Hillary won in the typical urban areas with typically larger numbers of non-white voters. But, surprisingly to me, she also won, and by good measure, those towns that where overwhelming white upper-middle class. Sanders won only in the white towns, but they fell into two categories: the SWPL whites of the many college towns (Amherst, etc. in western Mass) , and the working class whites and rural whites in the many less urban towns in Mass. Now those working class whites are about as far from standard SWPLs and "progressives" as one can get. My guess is that such whites are registering their disgust with establishment candidates by voting for Sanders. Such whites would probably be pretty easy to peel off for another outsider candidate such as Trump, probably particularly because so many of his positions are centrist or populist.

    What everyone forgets about Massachusetts is that it’s a state with more unenrolled voters than Dems and Reps added together. 53% of MA voters have no party affiliation, the highest percentage in the country.

    I know more than a few center-left guys who took the GOP ballot this time around, guys who’d have been for Bernie absent the chance to vote for Trump. The Dem primary in my town almost pretty much mirrored the gender demographic.

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  107. @SFG
    I think a lot of people here appreciated that he had it in for the economic elites and didn't seem to hate white people--you know, the way the left used to be back in the fifties. (I also suspect a few of the more moderate alt-righters liked having a Jewish guy they could say was OK.) But...as Steve says, it's the Black Party now.

    I don't think you should vote for him. The point is, if *he were what the Democratic Party were offering*, it wouldn't be that bad, because he wasn't that hardcore on immigration, and less money for elites means less money to buy politicians and put crap like open borders in. He's better *as opposition*, because you can agree with 20% of what he says instead of 0.

    There aren’t any candidates running with whom I agree all that consistently. I’d prefer Sanders to anyone else on foreign policy and war on terror stuff–he seems more excited about hassling big banks than bombing third world peasants. I don’t trust Trump as far as I could throw him, though at least he seems less inclined to get us into another war than Rubio or Cruz.

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    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    Immigration is the big issue.
    It's the only one where errors are irreversible in later years.
    How do you fix Drunk Teddy's 1965 treason?
  108. @AndrewR
    Apples to oranges. Hillary's campaign exemplifies everything wrong with feminism. Not only does she push the standard feminist lies but she takes it to the next level with stunts like letting Lena Dunham comandeer her Twitter account. She also responded to Sanders' claims that she's an establishment candidate with a faux-shocked response of "Establishment?? I'm a woman running for president of the United States!"

    Her campaign strategy is in large part "vote for me because I have a pussy"

    “Her campaign strategy is in large part “vote for me because I have a pussy”.
    Dear God man! Why did you have to mention Hillary’s reproductive organs?

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    “Her campaign strategy is in large part “vote for me because I have a pussy”.
     
    Dear God man! Why did you have to mention Hillary’s reproductive organs
     
    I took it as a reference to a previous fellow resident of the White House. And no, not Socks.
    , @AndrewR
    I regret any traumatizing imagery that my comment may have caused...
  109. @SFG
    Yeah. Sanders is an old-style economic liberal, I could see a lot of the old union guys going for him, or blue-collar types who might be open to Trump.

    He probably lost old union guys or blue collar types when he caved in to BLM. I know a couple of old-school white, union democrats who hate republicans. But after Ferguson they see the dems as the black party. Bernie’s cowardice turned them off and added to their newfound perception. They are enthusiastically behind Trump.

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    But after Ferguson they see the dems as the black party.
     
    Talk about slow on the uptake…. What is that, 45 years after Steve's father-in-law wised up?
  110. @AP
    Republicans could split into something like the Progressive Conservatives in the Northeast and the Reform Party in the south and west. Sanders would head an NDP and Clinton the Liberals. America's PC's and Liberals could have a grand coalition to keep the "extremists" out of power.

    That sounds right to me.

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  111. @Anonym
    So Bernie says "Let them eat cake!". Tell me again, morons who want Sanders as VP, why this would be such a wonderful thing?

    The only way Scandinavian socialism functions as anything other than a long-term death sentence for the host population is to have Israeli-style border control and (if the border control is not in place from the beginning) some sort of repatriation policy in place. One could borrow the repatriation policy from Algeria, Zimbabwe or the former Soviet Union.

    Speaking for the Moron Community, Bernie as veep would (a) be in a position where he is utterly harmless, and (b) serve to splinter the Democratic Party merely by running on a ticket with Trump. Both of them running together might form the nucleus of a new party. But in any case, a joint run could dismember the Democratic and Republican parties. Heck, even if they lost, they could form a nucleus on which to build.

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    • Replies: @Anonym
    Bernie as VP would mean that we are only a bullet or heart attack away from Sanders as president. No thanks.

    In my preferred fantasy world, Sanders climbs into a Corvair with Ralph Nader and they zoom off into the sunset to create irrelevant parties together. Yours has more potential for a sitcom, I'll give you that. Larry David and Jimmy Fallon, it would be yuuuge.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    I think Trump should reach out to Sanders after Hillary builds an inexorable lead (assuming an indictment doesn't stop her). There's overlap between the two on trade, and there's overlap between Trump and last summer's Sanders on immigration. And there might be some overlap on taxes. Plus, there's probably some cultural overlap between the two as outer borough New Yorkers. Trump's dad built housing for guys like Sanders' dad.

    Most importantly, there's overlap in their white voter bases, which, if combined, would be unstoppable in November. Think about it: Hillary would get maybe 70% of NAMs plus the feminists, Wall Street, Hollywood, and Silicon Valley. Trump/Sanders would get pretty much everyone else.

    The Trump offer could go something like this:

    - Bernie ditches the open borders advocacy, and the pandering on crime.

    - Bernie follows Trump's lead on immigration and trade.

    - Both agree not to invade any countries, and not bomb any new ones unless they attack us first.

    - Trump agrees to raise the federal minimum wage and to expand health insurance coverage, in some form, to 100% of Americans (illegals to be given emergency care, as they are now, but then humanely repatriated, with their home countries billed for the treatment).

    - Trump and Bernie agree to some version of trust-busting on medical prices (e.g., https://market-ticker.org/post=231191 ).

    - In addition to VP, Trump makes Bernie secretary of HHS, or gives him a role of similar importance.

    - Trump throws in an apartment in the Trump Tower.
  112. @AndrewR
    Apples to oranges. Hillary's campaign exemplifies everything wrong with feminism. Not only does she push the standard feminist lies but she takes it to the next level with stunts like letting Lena Dunham comandeer her Twitter account. She also responded to Sanders' claims that she's an establishment candidate with a faux-shocked response of "Establishment?? I'm a woman running for president of the United States!"

    Her campaign strategy is in large part "vote for me because I have a pussy"

    Her campaign strategy is in large part “vote for me because I have a pussy”
    “And, it’s only been used once!”

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  113. White people aren’t allowed to talk about white people as a group any more, because that is, by definition, a fringe/extremist/racist thing to do. The only people who can legitimately talk about white people are black people and latino people. So how are we doing, black and latino people? What’s that? Oh, we suck, that’s right. What if we agree to more free stuff, more special privileges, more everything? Never enough, says Ta-Nehisi Coates, work harder, tax yourself more, hate yourself more, because the more you give blacks and latinos, the further behind you get.

    When Madeline Albright’s dream comes true, and the middle of the country is made over, with New Kabul, Mogadishuville, Kigalitown, Fort Damascus and so on, and the oligarchs have sucked the rest of the life out of the country, white people will be the new hated underclass of America. Because we’ll be just as evil as we ever were, and now we can’t even pay the country’s bills.

    Or we could figure out how to Make America Great Again, and just not talk about it. Because it would be racist.

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  114. @anonymous
    Blacks are often good at sniffing out hypocrisy. They know Sanders voted with his feet to live in whiteopia. He didn't care to have his child grow up in the vicinity of blacks and they know that also. Besides, Clinton is offering free stuff and Sanders is being rather abstract about it.

    Blacks may be good at sniffing out hypocrisy, but they are also phenomenal at not seeing it.

    Brown (of Brown v Board of Education) was determined to get out of the black community, live in a nice white neighborhood, get some nice white friends for his daughters, and get them into a white school.

    Yet he is a hero to black folks for his attempted Talented Tenth abandonment of the black community.

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  115. @SFG
    Your identification of market research with demographics is a brilliant point (and one I'd like to see Steve, with his background in market research, comment on). Everyone slices and dices by demographic because it's easy to figure out--personality differences like 'geeks versus jocks' are much harder to pin down, especially as a lot of people are neither or a mix of the two. I wonder how much the increased power of market research tools allowed the parties to focus on their preferred demographics?

    The information to do a really good job on market research is out there, in the hands of the Googles, Amazons, banks and telecoms.

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  116. @Twirlip

    Blacks are actually optimistic economically
     
    I can't imagine why, since by every economic measure they continue to lag far behind everyone else, even recently poor immigrant groups. For example

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/black-opportunity-wealth_us_568c44cee4b0c8beacf4a391

    Pay special attention to the section headed "Most Black Middle Class Kids Are Downwardly Mobile".

    The Talented Tenth are upwardly mobile. But they need to be able to stand on the backs of poor black folks to move up.

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  117. @I, Libertine
    In the early sixties, Bernie was
    getting arrested at Civil rights demonstarations, and Hillary was a
    Goldwater Girl.

    If I were advising Sanders, I'd advise him to mention that at every stop.

    “In the early sixties, Bernie was
    getting arrested at Civil rights demonstarations, and Hillary was a
    Goldwater Girl.

    If I were advising Sanders, I’d advise him to mention that at every stop.”

    Why? While slavery, Jim Crow and the murder of Emmett Till are recent events, the Civil Rights movement and Goldwater are ancient history.

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    You make an excellent point, of course. But seriously:

    The black vote in America in disproportionately female and elderly. Those old ladies remember the Civil Rights movement as the apogee of American history. And they remember Goldwater, too.

    Sorry for the typo above. You'd think I'd learn to use the editing function. But, no.
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    What an irony it’s Sharapova that’s caught.

    It's like when Janet Napolitano responded to complaints about the border by putting a sensor-and-cameras system on the Canadian border. Tennis authorities respond to Serena-Williams-inspired suspicion about steroids by busting Sharapova.

  119. “By definition, blacks represent morality. Hence, because blacks hate him, Bernie deserves to lose. QED.”

    This works the same to defeat Trump. I’ve just finished watching about three hours of news and commentary on a variety of stations, and the anti-Trump cabal has finally found the strategy that works (after repeated failures): namely, white self-hatred.

    Blacks represent morality. Trump is supported by anti-black white supremacists.
    Therefore, Trump is a sick racist Nazi white supremacist.
    QED.

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  120. Looks like iSteve is way out in front of the Washington Post again:

    “An awkward reality for Bernie Sanders: A strategy focused on whiter states”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/an-awkward-reality-for-bernie-sanders-a-strategy-focused-on-whiter-states/2016/03/07/311ad3e4-e412-11e5-b0fd-073d5930a7b7_story.html?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_sanderswhitestates-new-800pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

    Bernie Blanco?

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    • Replies: @Anonym
    I wonder what percentage of the Democratic caucuses and primaries is made up of white voters. Would it be possible for BS to run a perverse version of his own Sailer Strategy, winning the nomination at the expense of the general election (maybe)? Who knows, if a Democrat nominee employed the Sailer Strategy, would it win election? I know, this is such an unthinkable idea I may even be the first person to consider it. But it's not like the non-whites are going to start voting for Republicans now, is it (lol).
  121. @Olorin
    Depends on whether you're talking about Portland, Oregon, or Portland, Maine.

    Portland, Maine, was 96% white in 1990, 85% white today.

    Maine is 95% white.

    Portland, Oregon, is only 76% white, and the city contains 2/3 of Oregon's black population.

    Oregon: 78% white, 12% Hispanic.

    Portland, Oregon still has an ethnic composition that still guarantees relative tranquility… making a simulacrum of social cohesion possible.

    Portland, Ore. 2010 census population (rank): 583,776 (29); Male: 289,211 (49.5%); Female: 294,565 (50.5%); White: 444,216 (76.1%); Black: 36,695 (6.3%); American Indian and Alaska Native: 5,991 (1.0%); Asian: 41,692 (7.1%); Other race: 24,793 (4.2%); Two or more races: 27,280 (4.7%); Hispanic/Latino: 54,840 (9.4%).

    It is meaningless that the city is home to 2/3 of Oregon’s almost negligible black population (not much more than 2% of all state residents).
    fore Progressive types sometimes complain that their city “isn’t diverse enough.” For example: http://www.portlandoccupier.org/2012/11/28/why-arent-there-more-black-people-in-oregon/

    If only they were aware of the consequences….

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  122. @Former Darfur
    Her campaign strategy is in large part “vote for me because I have a pussy”
    "And, it's only been used once!"

    No way. Its been used by a number of women.

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  123. @Olorin
    Depends on whether you're talking about Portland, Oregon, or Portland, Maine.

    Portland, Maine, was 96% white in 1990, 85% white today.

    Maine is 95% white.

    Portland, Oregon, is only 76% white, and the city contains 2/3 of Oregon's black population.

    Oregon: 78% white, 12% Hispanic.

    Alabama, Tennessee, Lousiana, Texas, Arkansas, Georgia, Virginia… These are states where Hillary has been winning against Bernie.

    What do these have in common? Not just the ethnic demographics… These are states where the candidate from the Democratic party has much weaker chances against any Republican. I wish some statistical whiz kid like Nate Silver would combine data from both polls and hate facts to reveal a real prognosis about where the election is going. If Hillary wins the nomination based on support from states that she has little chance of capturing in November, how likely is she to be able to count on the support of Bernie fans in the battleground states that actually will decide the general election?

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    It's a serious problem with the primary system. The Hildabeast could win all the core Republican states and Trump could win the diehard Democrat states. Admittedly, Trump may have considerable crossover appeal but he's not going to carry Massachusetts.
    , @keypusher
    how likely is she to be able to count on the support of Bernie fans in the battleground states that actually will decide the general election?

    They are an absolute lock to vote for Hillary. Sanders supporters are going to vote for Hillary over Trump, Cruz, or anyone else the Republicans could conceivably nominate. Some will stay home. That's the most you can hope for.

    People need to stop kidding themselves.
  124. @Bhroham
    Steve, earlier today I read what I think is a bang on comment on why blacks don't support Bernie (first comment):

    https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/48kyzj/why_are_black_americans_voting_for_hillary/

    "Fundamentally, Bernie's campaign does not seem to understand how the liberalism of black democrats differs from that of their white counterparts. Specifically, culture-war issues play a much smaller role, because that is one place where black and white Democrats do not align perfectly."

    "The reality is that "black liberalism" has historically existed hand-in-hand with religious belief, whereas "white liberalism" often exists in opposition to it."

    "Black Americans perceive - with justification - that their (our) economic standing is getting better, and therefore are more willing to stay-the-course. Bernie's pitch misses the mark because he wants to overthrow a system that is finally starting to work, in order to help us reclaim something we never had."

    Americans blacks have an undeniable racial solidarity.

    More important that “more free stuff for the poor” is “more free stuff just for blacks.”

    If the government has to dilute all that free stuff among poor residents of all nationalities and colors it could mean less stuff and attention exclusively for their community.

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    Up your valley, Steve: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/aei-world-forum-donald-trump_us_56ddbd38e4b0ffe6f8ea125d

    The conspiracies are more frequently real than is commonly believed. Some names:

    “Apple CEO Tim Cook, Google co-founder Larry Page, Napster creator and Facebook investor Sean Parker, and Tesla Motors and SpaceX honcho Elon Musk all attended. So did Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), political guru Karl Rove, House Speaker Paul Ryan, GOP Sens. Tom Cotton (Ark.), Cory Gardner (Colo.), Tim Scott (S.C.), Rob Portman (Ohio) and Ben Sasse (Neb.), who recently made news by saying he “cannot support Donald Trump.”

    Along with Ryan, the House was represented by Energy and Commerce Committee Chair Fred Upton (Mich.), Rep. Kevin Brady (Texas) and almost-Speaker Kevin McCarthy (Calif.), sources said, along with leadership figure Cathy McMorris Rodgers (Wash.), Budget Committee Chairman Tom Price (R-Ga.), Financial Services Committee Chairman Jeb Hensarling (Texas) and Diane Black (Tenn.)”

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  126. @res
    OT: The search for Haven Monahan continues: http://www.nhregister.com/sports/20160303/storm-brews-on-yale-campus-following-departure-of-ex-basketball-captain
    I wonder how this one will play out. Quote from the Yale basketball captain's father:

    “We have strict orders from our lawyers,” said Jim Montague,. “Soon enough, I’d love to tell the other side of the story. It’s ridiculous, why he’s expelled. It’s probably going to set some sort of precedent. We’re trying to do things the gentleman’s way, so we’re keeping things close-knit. But you guys will get a story.”

    The timing is an interesting wrinkle (mid-Feb) given that Yale qualified for March Madness and the legal system takes time.

    I love this quote from the Women’s Center,

    “While the campus can only speculate on what occurred, we can comfortably say that, should all of this be true, this is progress. It seems that a survivor felt that coming forward was a viable option and that they got the decisive outcome that they likely fought hard for.

    What kind of use of pronouns is that? Keepin’ it “gender neutral” at the cost of clarity? Who is the “they” is it the “victim?” I thought the “victim” was singular. Why is it necessary to make it “neutral?” I thought feminists held that only women could be victims of sexual violence, why not make this clear with gendered pronouns?

    Idiots.

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  127. @NOTA
    There aren't any candidates running with whom I agree all that consistently. I'd prefer Sanders to anyone else on foreign policy and war on terror stuff--he seems more excited about hassling big banks than bombing third world peasants. I don't trust Trump as far as I could throw him, though at least he seems less inclined to get us into another war than Rubio or Cruz.

    Immigration is the big issue.
    It’s the only one where errors are irreversible in later years.
    How do you fix Drunk Teddy’s 1965 treason?

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    Immigration errors are reversible, but only at the expense of huge damage to the body poltique: ethnic cleansing (massive forcible deportations) or partition.
  128. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Some of Bernie’s problems with blacks may stem from the fact that he’s not a rainmaker. Most people want to be rich, blacks included, and blacks tend to assume that if you’ve lined your own pockets, you’ll know how to make it rain cash for your supporters. But if you’re too incompetent to know how to make money for yourself, how are you ever going to know how to make it for other people?

    The second problem is that Bernie’s not alpha enough. When he shrank away from the Black Lives Matter types and just stood there looking feeble and guilty, blacks mentally subtracted points from his man card. Does anyone remember Bill Clinton and his Sister Souljah moment? It did not lose him black support when he rejected what she said. Blacks liked the fact that he stood up to her nonsense but still indicated that he was squarely on the side of the average black person.

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  129. @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
    Alabama, Tennessee, Lousiana, Texas, Arkansas, Georgia, Virginia... These are states where Hillary has been winning against Bernie.

    What do these have in common? Not just the ethnic demographics... These are states where the candidate from the Democratic party has much weaker chances against any Republican. I wish some statistical whiz kid like Nate Silver would combine data from both polls and hate facts to reveal a real prognosis about where the election is going. If Hillary wins the nomination based on support from states that she has little chance of capturing in November, how likely is she to be able to count on the support of Bernie fans in the battleground states that actually will decide the general election?

    It’s a serious problem with the primary system. The Hildabeast could win all the core Republican states and Trump could win the diehard Democrat states. Admittedly, Trump may have considerable crossover appeal but he’s not going to carry Massachusetts.

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    Admittedly, Trump may have considerable crossover appeal but he’s not going to carry Massachusetts
     
    Because Massachusetts is too white and they want Hill (or Bern) to fix this problem?
  130. @Big Bill
    Speaking for the Moron Community, Bernie as veep would (a) be in a position where he is utterly harmless, and (b) serve to splinter the Democratic Party merely by running on a ticket with Trump. Both of them running together might form the nucleus of a new party. But in any case, a joint run could dismember the Democratic and Republican parties. Heck, even if they lost, they could form a nucleus on which to build.

    Bernie as VP would mean that we are only a bullet or heart attack away from Sanders as president. No thanks.

    In my preferred fantasy world, Sanders climbs into a Corvair with Ralph Nader and they zoom off into the sunset to create irrelevant parties together. Yours has more potential for a sitcom, I’ll give you that. Larry David and Jimmy Fallon, it would be yuuuge.

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    I just watched my first Hillary ad here in Missouri. Morgan Freeman narrates. If she has been using him in other states, I can see how that helps her with black voters.

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  132. @ParadoxLover
    Looks like iSteve is way out in front of the Washington Post again:

    "An awkward reality for Bernie Sanders: A strategy focused on whiter states"

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/an-awkward-reality-for-bernie-sanders-a-strategy-focused-on-whiter-states/2016/03/07/311ad3e4-e412-11e5-b0fd-073d5930a7b7_story.html?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_sanderswhitestates-new-800pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

    Bernie Blanco?

    I wonder what percentage of the Democratic caucuses and primaries is made up of white voters. Would it be possible for BS to run a perverse version of his own Sailer Strategy, winning the nomination at the expense of the general election (maybe)? Who knows, if a Democrat nominee employed the Sailer Strategy, would it win election? I know, this is such an unthinkable idea I may even be the first person to consider it. But it’s not like the non-whites are going to start voting for Republicans now, is it (lol).

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    I thought about the same thing, because Bernie is basically splitting the white vote with Hillary, while losing the black vote 85-15. Meaning that, in effect, he is now the republican in the democratic primary. A liberal pundit said Bernie will have to cut that black disparity to beat the shrew, and I thought to myself, well...it's not the *only* way for him to win. He could increase his share of white democrats.

    How would a sailer strategy work in a democratic primary? My suggestion would be to stress Medicare and social security, as bernie is weak with seniors. Also, while hammering Wall Street, Bernie might want to tack to Hillary's right a bit on immigration and crime. He needs to stop pandering to "black lives matter" thugs and start talking to those whites who are repelled by them.

    Will Bernie try this? Doubtful. He's in this to make a point, not to win. But if he did try this, he could win the whole thing.

    P.S. I also think some Bernie supporters are gettable for Trump. Many Berniebros are in denial of the fact that white men have no home in the modern democrat party. But some will get, at a gut level, that Hillary despises them. They won't say they'll vote trump, but...
  133. Some percent of Bernie supports will defect to Trump, but what of the other way around? His support seems pretty lethargic from the breadbasket west. Any numbers are purely speculative at this point.

    As a Bernie supporter I’d hold my nose and vote Hillary over Trump for the Supreme Court justices. Trump is like Hillary in that he’s either a massive flip-flopper or you don’t know his actual positions because he’ll say anything to get elected. Trump’s crap tax plan already belies his intentions to expand Reaganomics and give even more of the wealth created by ordinary Americans to the 1% so why anybody of any race would vote for him is beyond me. Hillary will be a ho-hum do-nothing steward for 8 years while America sheds some of its senior citizens (largely GOP and Hilary voters) in favor of young people who would vote for Sanders, Warren, Tulsi Gabbard, etc.

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    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    As a Bernie supporter I’d hold my nose and vote Hillary over Trump for the Supreme Court justices
     
    You're into "penumbrae" and "wise Latinas"?
  134. @marwan
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-35748986

    A US air strike has killed more than 150 al-Shabab militants in Somalia, the Pentagon says.
    Spokesman Captain Jeff Davis said the strike hit a training camp where a "large-scale" attack was being planned.
    "We know they were going to be departing the camp and they posed an imminent threat to US and [African Union] forces," Captain Davis said.
    "Initial assessments are that more than 150 terrorist fighters were eliminated," he added.
     
    Might be a bad day to caucus with the Somalis . Do they still think Barack Obama has "got their back" ??

    2015 was a record year for civilian deaths in Afghanistan. The 7 th record breaking year in a row so it is on an upward trajectory. The death comes from above, courtesy of the USA.

    Yet Trump is the bad guy when it comes to treatment of Muslims.

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    http://www.aish.com/jw/me/Syrian-Refugee-Thanks-Israel.html?mobile=yes

    Israel finally helped a Syrian refugee... By transporting him to Istanbul
  136. OT: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/07/3250381/

    Trump vowing to lower immigration levels. I hope he is not so flexible or open to softening this time around. Maybe he’s re-finding some religion now.

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  137. Democrats love to crow about how the Republicans are doomed by demographics. What they (the SWPL ones, at least) don’t seem to understand is that demographic change is also dooming their progressive dreams. The black and hispanic voters don’t seem to cotton to the progressive #FeeltheBern policies that they love.

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  138. How is our ‘dear leader?’ I got a really, really bad cold in Providence, RI (not even a joke!) this past weekend. Get well soon…assuming.

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    America turning into parody.

    http://nypost.com/2016/03/07/gawker-lawyer-invokes-holocaust-at-hulk-hogan-trial/

    We need to see Humping Hogan because of the Holocaust.

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    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    From your link:

    Berry noted that Denton’s mom was a Hungarian Jew “who survived the Nazis” before escaping the Soviet occupation and fleeing to England
     
    Does this mean she was on young Master Soros's census?
  140. Also, Bernie is the other side of the coin of Trump. People have to get behind entrepreneurship, personal responsibility, sacrifice for the common good as far as common goods. However, the world is sort of Darwinian now ( Eu migration; bad water in Flint for instance, water/food shortages and beyond, all over; stupid religious wars in MENA countries, i.e. they gotta go through a reformation of Islam, duh?) so, the Globobobo’s have to actually, think and work harder – they will ski less this winter, worry more? In my fantasies, Godzilla’s spawn will rise up from the oceans world-wide and just cull people.

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    they gotta go through a reformation of Islam
     
    Wahhabism is that Reformation. Getting back to basics.
  141. @AndrewR
    Apples to oranges. Hillary's campaign exemplifies everything wrong with feminism. Not only does she push the standard feminist lies but she takes it to the next level with stunts like letting Lena Dunham comandeer her Twitter account. She also responded to Sanders' claims that she's an establishment candidate with a faux-shocked response of "Establishment?? I'm a woman running for president of the United States!"

    Her campaign strategy is in large part "vote for me because I have a pussy"

    “Her campaign strategy is in large part “vote for me because I have a pussy””

    And Bernie’s might as well be “vote for me because I am one.” Turns out that was also Bush’s and Kasich’s too.

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  142. This kind of reminds me of Trump today. FDR-Never before in all our history have these forces been united against 1 candidate. They are unanimous in their hate for me and I welcome their hatred.

    start at :58

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjSTQwamo8M

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  143. @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...
    "Her campaign strategy is in large part “vote for me because I have a pussy”.
    Dear God man! Why did you have to mention Hillary's reproductive organs?

    “Her campaign strategy is in large part “vote for me because I have a pussy”.

    Dear God man! Why did you have to mention Hillary’s reproductive organs

    I took it as a reference to a previous fellow resident of the White House. And no, not Socks.

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  144. @Lagertha
    Also, Bernie is the other side of the coin of Trump. People have to get behind entrepreneurship, personal responsibility, sacrifice for the common good as far as common goods. However, the world is sort of Darwinian now ( Eu migration; bad water in Flint for instance, water/food shortages and beyond, all over; stupid religious wars in MENA countries, i.e. they gotta go through a reformation of Islam, duh?) so, the Globobobo's have to actually, think and work harder - they will ski less this winter, worry more? In my fantasies, Godzilla's spawn will rise up from the oceans world-wide and just cull people.

    they gotta go through a reformation of Islam

    Wahhabism is that Reformation. Getting back to basics.

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  145. @Anon
    America turning into parody.

    http://nypost.com/2016/03/07/gawker-lawyer-invokes-holocaust-at-hulk-hogan-trial/

    We need to see Humping Hogan because of the Holocaust.

    From your link:

    Berry noted that Denton’s mom was a Hungarian Jew “who survived the Nazis” before escaping the Soviet occupation and fleeing to England

    Does this mean she was on young Master Soros’s census?

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    So beautifully cold...I'm stealing it.

    FYI.

    One might suggest that Gyorgi Schwartz's purported Nazism ranks among the least objectionable of his allegiances/beliefs.

  146. @ILL-iterate
    Some percent of Bernie supports will defect to Trump, but what of the other way around? His support seems pretty lethargic from the breadbasket west. Any numbers are purely speculative at this point.

    As a Bernie supporter I'd hold my nose and vote Hillary over Trump for the Supreme Court justices. Trump is like Hillary in that he's either a massive flip-flopper or you don't know his actual positions because he'll say anything to get elected. Trump's crap tax plan already belies his intentions to expand Reaganomics and give even more of the wealth created by ordinary Americans to the 1% so why anybody of any race would vote for him is beyond me. Hillary will be a ho-hum do-nothing steward for 8 years while America sheds some of its senior citizens (largely GOP and Hilary voters) in favor of young people who would vote for Sanders, Warren, Tulsi Gabbard, etc.

    As a Bernie supporter I’d hold my nose and vote Hillary over Trump for the Supreme Court justices

    You’re into “penumbrae” and “wise Latinas”?

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  147. @CJ
    It's a serious problem with the primary system. The Hildabeast could win all the core Republican states and Trump could win the diehard Democrat states. Admittedly, Trump may have considerable crossover appeal but he's not going to carry Massachusetts.

    Admittedly, Trump may have considerable crossover appeal but he’s not going to carry Massachusetts

    Because Massachusetts is too white and they want Hill (or Bern) to fix this problem?

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    Because Massachusetts is not going to vote anything but Democrat in a general election. Just like Utah will be going Republican. It's bizarre that the leading candidates in the primaries get there by sweeping the heartlands of the other party.
  148. @iSteveFan
    He probably lost old union guys or blue collar types when he caved in to BLM. I know a couple of old-school white, union democrats who hate republicans. But after Ferguson they see the dems as the black party. Bernie's cowardice turned them off and added to their newfound perception. They are enthusiastically behind Trump.

    But after Ferguson they see the dems as the black party.

    Talk about slow on the uptake…. What is that, 45 years after Steve’s father-in-law wised up?

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  149. @Shine a Light
    Bernie Sanders denied white poverty during the debate last night!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMsjo_Pi8pQ


    So to answer your question, I would say, and I think it’s similar to what the secretary said, when you’re white, you don’t know what it’s like to be living in a ghetto. You don’t know what it’s like to be poor. You don’t know what it’s like to be hassled when you walk down the street or you get dragged out of a car.
     
    Mitt Romney insulted 47% of Americans when he called them deadbeat slackers. Now Bernie Sanders has insulted 67% of people living in poverty by denying the very existence of 31 million poor white people! This is White Poverty Denialism. I have news for you Bernie, the stomachs of poor white children Feel the Bern of hunger just as much as stomachs of color do.

    Sanders seems to be pushing a form of Bourgeois Socialism for middle class and upper middle class whites who will get free universities and an organic farmer's market on every corner while the very existence of poor whites will be swept away into the dustbin of history.

    Poverty eradication by decree!

    He means that there aren’t many whites living in urban slums. That’s a popular perception in today’s America.

    However, that’s not completely true. There are substantial numbers of poor inner city whites in much of the rustbelt. Especially in Michigan, Ohio, western Pennsylvania, Indiana, and upstate New York.

    There are many poor whites in rural areas too, especially in the southern states.

    American intelligentsia tends to cluster in cities like San Francisco, LA, DC, NYC, and Boston. So they don’t have much experience dealing with poor whites, as those cities have more affluent whites. If they lived in the Florida panhandle or south Cleveland, they’d have more experience with poor whites.

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    Poor whites don't engage in spectacular dysfunction as do inner-city blacks. I remember reading several years ago about the poorest county in the U.S. (a Kevin Williamson article in National Review--it does have its moments). There was crime, but it was mostly welfare fraud and theft--the sheriff generally knew who the perpetrators were. There was almost no violent crime. Dysfunctional whites tend to suicide or slow suicide via alcohol and opiate drugs. That makes it easy to ignore, whereas violent crime, even black on black, is more visible.
  150. @The Alarmist
    And yet the Bern was out there in the sixties chained to black protestors and getting hauled of with them by the police, while Hillary was boosting Goldwater. Shows you what good marketing can do to move even a lemon ....

    And yet the Bern was out there in the sixties chained to black protestors and getting hauled of with them by the police, while Hillary was boosting Goldwater

    Like Hillary in the primaries, Goldwater swept the blackest states. Otherwise, the two campaigns have little in common.

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  151. @Chrisnonymous
    I thought the Zionists wanted someplace in deepest Africa, like Nigeria or something. We could Wikipedia it, but I don't have the interest...

    It was Kenya. (Though at the time it was part of Uganda.)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uganda_Scheme

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  152. @NJ Transit Commuter
    Perhaps my imagination is just being overactive, but if it were southern whites instead of southern blacks refusing to vote for a Jewish candidate for president, wouldn't there have been a bunch of articles about anti-Semitism rearing its ugly head in Dixie?

    Definitely.

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  153. @Big Bill
    Speaking for the Moron Community, Bernie as veep would (a) be in a position where he is utterly harmless, and (b) serve to splinter the Democratic Party merely by running on a ticket with Trump. Both of them running together might form the nucleus of a new party. But in any case, a joint run could dismember the Democratic and Republican parties. Heck, even if they lost, they could form a nucleus on which to build.

    I think Trump should reach out to Sanders after Hillary builds an inexorable lead (assuming an indictment doesn’t stop her). There’s overlap between the two on trade, and there’s overlap between Trump and last summer’s Sanders on immigration. And there might be some overlap on taxes. Plus, there’s probably some cultural overlap between the two as outer borough New Yorkers. Trump’s dad built housing for guys like Sanders’ dad.

    Most importantly, there’s overlap in their white voter bases, which, if combined, would be unstoppable in November. Think about it: Hillary would get maybe 70% of NAMs plus the feminists, Wall Street, Hollywood, and Silicon Valley. Trump/Sanders would get pretty much everyone else.

    The Trump offer could go something like this:

    – Bernie ditches the open borders advocacy, and the pandering on crime.

    – Bernie follows Trump’s lead on immigration and trade.

    – Both agree not to invade any countries, and not bomb any new ones unless they attack us first.

    – Trump agrees to raise the federal minimum wage and to expand health insurance coverage, in some form, to 100% of Americans (illegals to be given emergency care, as they are now, but then humanely repatriated, with their home countries billed for the treatment).

    – Trump and Bernie agree to some version of trust-busting on medical prices (e.g., https://market-ticker.org/post=231191 ).

    – In addition to VP, Trump makes Bernie secretary of HHS, or gives him a role of similar importance.

    – Trump throws in an apartment in the Trump Tower.

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    • Replies: @TangoMan
    The Trump & Sanders tag team doesn't work.

    Trump is already the agent of change for Republicans and giving them heartburn, so the last thing he needs to do is alienate even more anti-leftists by bringing a communist on board the ticket. What does he gain, some Bernie supporters who would come over anyway because they can't stomach voting for Hillary but to realize this gain he's going to lose every anti-leftist in the Republican Party.

    The long range plan here is to bring over white Democrats, election by election, and to craft a big tent party for the middle class. What we don't want to do is alienate all conservatives into a 3rd party, with a Trump coalition in the middle and the Democrats on the Left.

    Trump can handle the middle, he needs a VP to quiet the nerves of nervous conservatives. The only faction that needs to be purged is the neocon nuts, send them over to the Democrats to deal with.

    Democrats = high and low and minority. Republicans = middle class, white and non-loser minorities. I'm not joking about the non-loser bit either, you hit successful minorities' pride, do they want to be on the plantation with white overseers with all the losers collecting welfare or do they want to be on the winning team, with the middle class.
    , @AP
    Bernie's wealthy liberal white base loathes Trump, so this alliance would be the end of Bernie.
  154. Incidentally, for those who didn’t see the debate Sunday, Bernie was pretty impressive. He even gave a good, extemporaneous answer when asked about religion. Hillary, on the other hand, droned on about how she prays, and lying looked like such torture for her I just wanted it to end.

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  155. @Anonym
    I wonder what percentage of the Democratic caucuses and primaries is made up of white voters. Would it be possible for BS to run a perverse version of his own Sailer Strategy, winning the nomination at the expense of the general election (maybe)? Who knows, if a Democrat nominee employed the Sailer Strategy, would it win election? I know, this is such an unthinkable idea I may even be the first person to consider it. But it's not like the non-whites are going to start voting for Republicans now, is it (lol).

    I thought about the same thing, because Bernie is basically splitting the white vote with Hillary, while losing the black vote 85-15. Meaning that, in effect, he is now the republican in the democratic primary. A liberal pundit said Bernie will have to cut that black disparity to beat the shrew, and I thought to myself, well…it’s not the *only* way for him to win. He could increase his share of white democrats.

    How would a sailer strategy work in a democratic primary? My suggestion would be to stress Medicare and social security, as bernie is weak with seniors. Also, while hammering Wall Street, Bernie might want to tack to Hillary’s right a bit on immigration and crime. He needs to stop pandering to “black lives matter” thugs and start talking to those whites who are repelled by them.

    Will Bernie try this? Doubtful. He’s in this to make a point, not to win. But if he did try this, he could win the whole thing.

    P.S. I also think some Bernie supporters are gettable for Trump. Many Berniebros are in denial of the fact that white men have no home in the modern democrat party. But some will get, at a gut level, that Hillary despises them. They won’t say they’ll vote trump, but…

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  156. @Sammler
    This is clearly not the case. If white voters' behavior were consistent, then the extrapolation to 100% nonwhite would be an estimate of that group's mean vote. But the extrapolated value is below negative 100%.

    You’re making a faulty assumption here. The metric used is Black Percent of State, not Black percent of voters. 61% of Dem voters in SC were black, but the state is only 28% Black.

    Here are a few quick White Only votes I calculate, excluding states in which Sanders was hometown favorite (he won by +24 in NH and an enormous margin in VT).

    Iowa White Vote (exit poll). Note: 91% of voters were White.
    46% Sanders (Lose -3)
    49% Clinton

    Massachusetts White Vote (exit poll). Note: 85% of voters were White.
    50% Sanders (Win +1)
    49% Clinton

    Oklahoma White Vote (exit poll). Note: 74% of voters were White.
    56% Sanders (Win +20)
    36% Clinton

    Virginia White Vote (exit poll). Note: 63% of voters were White.
    42% Sanders (Lose -15)
    57% Clinton

    Nevada White Vote (exit poll). Note: 59% of voters were White.
    49% Sanders (Win +2)
    47% Clinton

    Alabama White Vote (exit poll). Note: 40% of voters were White.
    59% Sanders (Lose -21)
    38% Clinton

    South Carolina White Vote (exit poll). Note: 35% of voters were White.
    46% Sanders (Lose -8)
    54% Clinton

    I don’t see a strong pattern so far when White Vote Only is used, though it seems Southern Whites may not like Sanders for regional reasons.

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    Correction:

    Alabama White Vote (exit poll). Note: 40% of voters were White.
    38% Sanders (Lose -21)
    59% Clinton

    Adding:

    Tennessee White Vote (exit poll). Note: 63% of voters were White.
    42% Sanders (Lose -15)
    57% Clinton

    Texas White Vote (exit poll). Note: 43% of voters were White.
    41% Sanders (Lose -16)
    57% Clinton

    Georgia White Vote (exit poll). Note: 38% of voters were White.
    41% Sanders (Lose -17)
    58% Clinton

    Excluding: Arkansas (Clinton country), Vermont (Bernie country), New Hampshire (arguably spillover Bernie Country).

    That rounds out all Dem exit polls I find at CNN as of today. Overall, the White vote is split roughly evenly, at a glance. There is a trend towards lower White Bernie support in the south, but this may be a product of Southerners seeing Bernie as a "Yankee."

    If only Whites had voted, I think the Bernie-Hillary delegate count would be very close to even right now, given proportional allocation. Someone could calculate this.

    , @candid_observer
    One significant problem with focusing on the split in the white vote in states, rather than on the white percentage of voters overall in a state is that the white voters who identify as Democratic or Republican are going to vary a great deal depending on (or at least correlated with) how many blacks are in that state.

    In particular, in the South, it probably requires a fairly rare breed of white voter to identify as Democratic rather than Republican. On the other hand, in Massachusetts, for example, the good majority of whites across all socio-economic classes identify as Democratic. It becomes difficult therefore to compare the white voting population in those distinct cases, and draw general inferences.
  157. @Inquiring Mind

    My impression from a few glances at exit polls is that White support for Bernie more-or-less steady across different regions.
     
    Look at Steve's date. A simplified model has Democratic black voters 100% for Hillary. Were the Democratic white voters 65% for Sanders, a state with 30% black voters has 70% white voters. 70% of 65% is 46%. Those states (cough, South Carolina) have Sanders lower, at 25%.

    Do you think is may not be a black-white difference but a distance from the Canadian border effect?

    The metric on the x-axis is Black Percent of State, not Black voters. South Carolina Dem primary alone was 61% Black.

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  158. @Bill Jones
    Immigration is the big issue.
    It's the only one where errors are irreversible in later years.
    How do you fix Drunk Teddy's 1965 treason?

    Immigration errors are reversible, but only at the expense of huge damage to the body poltique: ethnic cleansing (massive forcible deportations) or partition.

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    Immigration errors are reversible, but only at the expense of huge damage to the body poltique: ethnic cleansing (massive forcible deportations) or partition.

    Ethnic cleansing is such a loaded term. I prefer to use "Affirmatively Transferring".
  159. @JohnnyWalker123
    He means that there aren't many whites living in urban slums. That's a popular perception in today's America.

    However, that's not completely true. There are substantial numbers of poor inner city whites in much of the rustbelt. Especially in Michigan, Ohio, western Pennsylvania, Indiana, and upstate New York.

    There are many poor whites in rural areas too, especially in the southern states.

    American intelligentsia tends to cluster in cities like San Francisco, LA, DC, NYC, and Boston. So they don't have much experience dealing with poor whites, as those cities have more affluent whites. If they lived in the Florida panhandle or south Cleveland, they'd have more experience with poor whites.

    Poor whites don’t engage in spectacular dysfunction as do inner-city blacks. I remember reading several years ago about the poorest county in the U.S. (a Kevin Williamson article in National Review–it does have its moments). There was crime, but it was mostly welfare fraud and theft–the sheriff generally knew who the perpetrators were. There was almost no violent crime. Dysfunctional whites tend to suicide or slow suicide via alcohol and opiate drugs. That makes it easy to ignore, whereas violent crime, even black on black, is more visible.

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  160. @Dave Pinsen
    I think Trump should reach out to Sanders after Hillary builds an inexorable lead (assuming an indictment doesn't stop her). There's overlap between the two on trade, and there's overlap between Trump and last summer's Sanders on immigration. And there might be some overlap on taxes. Plus, there's probably some cultural overlap between the two as outer borough New Yorkers. Trump's dad built housing for guys like Sanders' dad.

    Most importantly, there's overlap in their white voter bases, which, if combined, would be unstoppable in November. Think about it: Hillary would get maybe 70% of NAMs plus the feminists, Wall Street, Hollywood, and Silicon Valley. Trump/Sanders would get pretty much everyone else.

    The Trump offer could go something like this:

    - Bernie ditches the open borders advocacy, and the pandering on crime.

    - Bernie follows Trump's lead on immigration and trade.

    - Both agree not to invade any countries, and not bomb any new ones unless they attack us first.

    - Trump agrees to raise the federal minimum wage and to expand health insurance coverage, in some form, to 100% of Americans (illegals to be given emergency care, as they are now, but then humanely repatriated, with their home countries billed for the treatment).

    - Trump and Bernie agree to some version of trust-busting on medical prices (e.g., https://market-ticker.org/post=231191 ).

    - In addition to VP, Trump makes Bernie secretary of HHS, or gives him a role of similar importance.

    - Trump throws in an apartment in the Trump Tower.

    The Trump & Sanders tag team doesn’t work.

    Trump is already the agent of change for Republicans and giving them heartburn, so the last thing he needs to do is alienate even more anti-leftists by bringing a communist on board the ticket. What does he gain, some Bernie supporters who would come over anyway because they can’t stomach voting for Hillary but to realize this gain he’s going to lose every anti-leftist in the Republican Party.

    The long range plan here is to bring over white Democrats, election by election, and to craft a big tent party for the middle class. What we don’t want to do is alienate all conservatives into a 3rd party, with a Trump coalition in the middle and the Democrats on the Left.

    Trump can handle the middle, he needs a VP to quiet the nerves of nervous conservatives. The only faction that needs to be purged is the neocon nuts, send them over to the Democrats to deal with.

    Democrats = high and low and minority. Republicans = middle class, white and non-loser minorities. I’m not joking about the non-loser bit either, you hit successful minorities’ pride, do they want to be on the plantation with white overseers with all the losers collecting welfare or do they want to be on the winning team, with the middle class.

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  161. @Corn
    I'm a lousy psychic but I'm going to make a prediction here. Come November, whether she loses or wins, Hillary will set a record for the lowest percentage of the white male vote ever won.

    Even Bill will vote to Make America Great Again!

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  162. @Diversity Heretic
    Immigration errors are reversible, but only at the expense of huge damage to the body poltique: ethnic cleansing (massive forcible deportations) or partition.

    Immigration errors are reversible, but only at the expense of huge damage to the body poltique: ethnic cleansing (massive forcible deportations) or partition.

    Ethnic cleansing is such a loaded term. I prefer to use “Affirmatively Transferring”.

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  163. @Bhroham
    Well I think the comment as a whole is quite accurate. Basically Sanders is advocating for a socialist vision of several decades ago, that to some extent, did exist for white Americans. Blacks are actually optimistic economically, so aren't too concerned about the banks etc. And as Steve has said before, Sander's abstract promises of justice aren't as compelling as Clinton, wife of the 'first black president' and anointed heir to the real first black president.

    I think you’re now getting closer to the mark. But very little of that has much to do with religion. That was my point.

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    Perhaps the writer is overegging the 'religious' aspect. I took 'religious' to be a proxy for social conservatism.
  164. @Seamus Padraig
    I think you're now getting closer to the mark. But very little of that has much to do with religion. That was my point.

    Perhaps the writer is overegging the ‘religious’ aspect. I took ‘religious’ to be a proxy for social conservatism.

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  165. @Hail
    You're making a faulty assumption here. The metric used is Black Percent of State, not Black percent of voters. 61% of Dem voters in SC were black, but the state is only 28% Black.

    Here are a few quick White Only votes I calculate, excluding states in which Sanders was hometown favorite (he won by +24 in NH and an enormous margin in VT).

    Iowa White Vote (exit poll). Note: 91% of voters were White.
    46% Sanders (Lose -3)
    49% Clinton

    Massachusetts White Vote (exit poll). Note: 85% of voters were White.
    50% Sanders (Win +1)
    49% Clinton

    Oklahoma White Vote (exit poll). Note: 74% of voters were White.
    56% Sanders (Win +20)
    36% Clinton

    Virginia White Vote (exit poll). Note: 63% of voters were White.
    42% Sanders (Lose -15)
    57% Clinton

    Nevada White Vote (exit poll). Note: 59% of voters were White.
    49% Sanders (Win +2)
    47% Clinton

    Alabama White Vote (exit poll). Note: 40% of voters were White.
    59% Sanders (Lose -21)
    38% Clinton

    South Carolina White Vote (exit poll). Note: 35% of voters were White.
    46% Sanders (Lose -8)
    54% Clinton

    I don't see a strong pattern so far when White Vote Only is used, though it seems Southern Whites may not like Sanders for regional reasons.

    Correction:

    Alabama White Vote (exit poll). Note: 40% of voters were White.
    38% Sanders (Lose -21)
    59% Clinton

    Adding:

    Tennessee White Vote (exit poll). Note: 63% of voters were White.
    42% Sanders (Lose -15)
    57% Clinton

    Texas White Vote (exit poll). Note: 43% of voters were White.
    41% Sanders (Lose -16)
    57% Clinton

    Georgia White Vote (exit poll). Note: 38% of voters were White.
    41% Sanders (Lose -17)
    58% Clinton

    Excluding: Arkansas (Clinton country), Vermont (Bernie country), New Hampshire (arguably spillover Bernie Country).

    That rounds out all Dem exit polls I find at CNN as of today. Overall, the White vote is split roughly evenly, at a glance. There is a trend towards lower White Bernie support in the south, but this may be a product of Southerners seeing Bernie as a “Yankee.”

    If only Whites had voted, I think the Bernie-Hillary delegate count would be very close to even right now, given proportional allocation. Someone could calculate this.

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  166. @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...
    "Her campaign strategy is in large part “vote for me because I have a pussy”.
    Dear God man! Why did you have to mention Hillary's reproductive organs?

    I regret any traumatizing imagery that my comment may have caused…

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  167. @Dave Pinsen
    I think Trump should reach out to Sanders after Hillary builds an inexorable lead (assuming an indictment doesn't stop her). There's overlap between the two on trade, and there's overlap between Trump and last summer's Sanders on immigration. And there might be some overlap on taxes. Plus, there's probably some cultural overlap between the two as outer borough New Yorkers. Trump's dad built housing for guys like Sanders' dad.

    Most importantly, there's overlap in their white voter bases, which, if combined, would be unstoppable in November. Think about it: Hillary would get maybe 70% of NAMs plus the feminists, Wall Street, Hollywood, and Silicon Valley. Trump/Sanders would get pretty much everyone else.

    The Trump offer could go something like this:

    - Bernie ditches the open borders advocacy, and the pandering on crime.

    - Bernie follows Trump's lead on immigration and trade.

    - Both agree not to invade any countries, and not bomb any new ones unless they attack us first.

    - Trump agrees to raise the federal minimum wage and to expand health insurance coverage, in some form, to 100% of Americans (illegals to be given emergency care, as they are now, but then humanely repatriated, with their home countries billed for the treatment).

    - Trump and Bernie agree to some version of trust-busting on medical prices (e.g., https://market-ticker.org/post=231191 ).

    - In addition to VP, Trump makes Bernie secretary of HHS, or gives him a role of similar importance.

    - Trump throws in an apartment in the Trump Tower.

    Bernie’s wealthy liberal white base loathes Trump, so this alliance would be the end of Bernie.

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  168. @Bhroham
    Well I think the comment as a whole is quite accurate. Basically Sanders is advocating for a socialist vision of several decades ago, that to some extent, did exist for white Americans. Blacks are actually optimistic economically, so aren't too concerned about the banks etc. And as Steve has said before, Sander's abstract promises of justice aren't as compelling as Clinton, wife of the 'first black president' and anointed heir to the real first black president.

    Economic Dunning-Kruger.

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  169. @keypusher
    And, ca.70% of the total white vote will not vote for her. It will go to Trump.

    Richard Nixon in 1972 did not get 70% of the white vote. Ronald Reagan in 1984 did not get 70% of the white vote. They didn't even get 70% of the white male vote.

    Donald Trump is not going to get 70% of the white vote.

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/03/donald-trump-needs-7-of-10-white-guys-213699

    Depends how racialized the election becomes. Mittens got 84% of the white vote in Alabama. http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/state/AL/president/

    Ethnic bloc voting is normal in multiethnic societies. At some point American whites are going to realize they live in a multiethnic society and start with the bloc voting. It’s easier to realize in AL.

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  170. @candid_observer
    I keep looking for some lyrics from Hamilton that would make me think, that's some clever or evocative writing. I never seem to encounter them--just really humdrum stuff.

    In contrast, I can look at any lyrics by Cole Porter or Stephen Sondheim, or any of the famous musicals in the mid twentieth century, and see immediately what the big deal was about.

    And the music is, what, rap? Where's the "masterpiece" in that?

    I take it I should be happy that I have no idea what you guys are talking about?

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  171. @candid_observer
    I keep looking for some lyrics from Hamilton that would make me think, that's some clever or evocative writing. I never seem to encounter them--just really humdrum stuff.

    In contrast, I can look at any lyrics by Cole Porter or Stephen Sondheim, or any of the famous musicals in the mid twentieth century, and see immediately what the big deal was about.

    And the music is, what, rap? Where's the "masterpiece" in that?

    The opening number is an incredible bit of expostition. I think Cabinet Battle 1 is pretty brilliant.

    http://genius.com/Lin-manuel-miranda-cabinet-battle-1-lyrics

    My wife, who used to be a professional singer, thinks “Satisfied” is incredible, not to mention an amazing challenge to sing.

    Miranda does a great job of using the run-on rhythms of rapping to reflect the title’s character’s verbosity, drive, and ambition — he talks so fast because he’s got so much to say, he’s in such a terrible hurry and he doesn’t have a lot of time.

    It’s not all rap, either. There’s a mix of styles, including a nice piece of 60s Britpop from the king of England (“You’ll Be Back”).

    Best thing is to see it, if you can, and judge for yourself.

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  172. @keypusher
    I don't know if that's just a crazy poll, sloppy writing (possibly taking "late deciders" as indicative of the electorate as a whole) or what, but there is no way that a gender gap that big between two Democrats exists on any kind of meaningful scale. That kind of gender gap wouldn't exist in a single state, never mind the country.

    The normal gender gap between Republicans and Democrats is 7-8% (that is, the Republican gets 7-8% less percent of the women's vote than the men's, or put another way if the Republican is getting 46% of the women he's getting around 53% of the men). A national poll recently had a 21% gender gap for Clinton v. Trump, which is enormous. And you're telling me that the gender gap between Clinton and Sanders is way bigger than that? NFW. Never mind plausibility, it's a mathematical impossibility given the margins of some of her recent primary wins.

    Steve, who knows a lot about polling and demographic realities, owes his readers a post about this. There's magical thinking on display in some of these comments.

    The normal gender gap between Republicans and Democrats is 7-8% (that is, the Republican gets 7-8% less percent of the women’s vote than the men’s, or put another way if the Republican is getting 46% of the women he’s getting around 53% of the men). A national poll recently had a 21% gender gap for Clinton v. Trump, which is enormous. And you’re telling me that the gender gap between Clinton and Sanders is way bigger than that? NFW. Never mind plausibility, it’s a mathematical impossibility given the margins of some of her recent primary wins.

    In South Carolina, Sanders got 56% of the small number of White men and 40% of the White women who voted in the Democratic primary.

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    In South Carolina, Sanders got 56% of the small number of White men and 40% of the White women who voted in the Democratic primary.

    Thanks. But that's a small sample in a single state (presumably the overall gender gap in SC, counting nonwhite voters, was much smaller), and even so it's half the gender gap Quinnipac reported.
  173. @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
    Alabama, Tennessee, Lousiana, Texas, Arkansas, Georgia, Virginia... These are states where Hillary has been winning against Bernie.

    What do these have in common? Not just the ethnic demographics... These are states where the candidate from the Democratic party has much weaker chances against any Republican. I wish some statistical whiz kid like Nate Silver would combine data from both polls and hate facts to reveal a real prognosis about where the election is going. If Hillary wins the nomination based on support from states that she has little chance of capturing in November, how likely is she to be able to count on the support of Bernie fans in the battleground states that actually will decide the general election?

    how likely is she to be able to count on the support of Bernie fans in the battleground states that actually will decide the general election?

    They are an absolute lock to vote for Hillary. Sanders supporters are going to vote for Hillary over Trump, Cruz, or anyone else the Republicans could conceivably nominate. Some will stay home. That’s the most you can hope for.

    People need to stop kidding themselves.

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  174. @ben tillman

    The normal gender gap between Republicans and Democrats is 7-8% (that is, the Republican gets 7-8% less percent of the women’s vote than the men’s, or put another way if the Republican is getting 46% of the women he’s getting around 53% of the men). A national poll recently had a 21% gender gap for Clinton v. Trump, which is enormous. And you’re telling me that the gender gap between Clinton and Sanders is way bigger than that? NFW. Never mind plausibility, it’s a mathematical impossibility given the margins of some of her recent primary wins.
     
    In South Carolina, Sanders got 56% of the small number of White men and 40% of the White women who voted in the Democratic primary.

    In South Carolina, Sanders got 56% of the small number of White men and 40% of the White women who voted in the Democratic primary.

    Thanks. But that’s a small sample in a single state (presumably the overall gender gap in SC, counting nonwhite voters, was much smaller), and even so it’s half the gender gap Quinnipac reported.

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  175. @JayMan
    I'd like know how Whites voted in the Democratic races in heavily Black states.

    I’d like know how Whites voted in the Democratic races in heavily Black states.

    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/02/27/us/elections/south-carolina-democrat-poll.html?_r=0

    In South Carolina:

    Whites 54-46 for Hillary
    Blacks 86-14 for Hillary

    White men: 56-44 for Sanders
    White women: 60-40 for Hillary
    Black men: 82-18 for Hillary
    Black women: 89-11 for Hillary

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  176. @Hail
    You're making a faulty assumption here. The metric used is Black Percent of State, not Black percent of voters. 61% of Dem voters in SC were black, but the state is only 28% Black.

    Here are a few quick White Only votes I calculate, excluding states in which Sanders was hometown favorite (he won by +24 in NH and an enormous margin in VT).

    Iowa White Vote (exit poll). Note: 91% of voters were White.
    46% Sanders (Lose -3)
    49% Clinton

    Massachusetts White Vote (exit poll). Note: 85% of voters were White.
    50% Sanders (Win +1)
    49% Clinton

    Oklahoma White Vote (exit poll). Note: 74% of voters were White.
    56% Sanders (Win +20)
    36% Clinton

    Virginia White Vote (exit poll). Note: 63% of voters were White.
    42% Sanders (Lose -15)
    57% Clinton

    Nevada White Vote (exit poll). Note: 59% of voters were White.
    49% Sanders (Win +2)
    47% Clinton

    Alabama White Vote (exit poll). Note: 40% of voters were White.
    59% Sanders (Lose -21)
    38% Clinton

    South Carolina White Vote (exit poll). Note: 35% of voters were White.
    46% Sanders (Lose -8)
    54% Clinton

    I don't see a strong pattern so far when White Vote Only is used, though it seems Southern Whites may not like Sanders for regional reasons.

    One significant problem with focusing on the split in the white vote in states, rather than on the white percentage of voters overall in a state is that the white voters who identify as Democratic or Republican are going to vary a great deal depending on (or at least correlated with) how many blacks are in that state.

    In particular, in the South, it probably requires a fairly rare breed of white voter to identify as Democratic rather than Republican. On the other hand, in Massachusetts, for example, the good majority of whites across all socio-economic classes identify as Democratic. It becomes difficult therefore to compare the white voting population in those distinct cases, and draw general inferences.

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    I think you're getting at the issue of self-perceived "ethnicities" within the 200-million-strong "White American" designated racial category.

    This phenomenon is difficult to pin down, rarely discussed in direct terms as regards the present day (talking about it in historical terms is alright), because most prefer to imagine it doesn't exist. It makes many would-be American nationalists and White Nationalists uncomfortable just as much as it makes so-called liberals uncomfortable.

    Most Whites with deep roots in the ex-CSA will perceive their ethnicity to be "Southern" (a rather lame designation, if you ask me, because it is so unspecific, America-centric, and alas a negative identity ["not Northern"]; they deserve a better appellation akin to "Yankee" [a term with its own problems and convoluted story, but that could apply to the WASPs of the northeast]). The "Southern ethnicity" is no longer a large majority anymore in its own hearthland, and a significant share of the 2016 White Democratic primary voters will be Whites of other "ethnicities," especially, notably, in Virginia with its high Rubio vote.

    Then you have Massachusetts and similar states, with strong traditions of other, largely Catholic, "ethnicities." MSNBC is full of Irish Catholics, and if you watch their election coverage, it seems almost an entirely Irish Catholic affair (Matthews, Williams, O'Donnell, Hayes, Todd, formerly elder Russert and now Russert's son, arguably Maddow [partially Irish-Catholic ancestry but 'very very [secular] Catholic' by identity]). The handful of grinning, token Nonwhites complement this group. A close analysis of their commentary reveals the identitarian bent to their politics, to some extent or other, even though it's been generations away from Ireland, or wherever.

    Much more could be written on this, and it occasionally comes up on I-Steve. As the Nonwhite Coalition is fragile, in a sense so is the White Coalition. It doesn't make me particularly happy to say this.
  177. @Kylie
    "In the early sixties, Bernie was
    getting arrested at Civil rights demonstarations, and Hillary was a
    Goldwater Girl.

    If I were advising Sanders, I’d advise him to mention that at every stop."

    Why? While slavery, Jim Crow and the murder of Emmett Till are recent events, the Civil Rights movement and Goldwater are ancient history.

    You make an excellent point, of course. But seriously:

    The black vote in America in disproportionately female and elderly. Those old ladies remember the Civil Rights movement as the apogee of American history. And they remember Goldwater, too.

    Sorry for the typo above. You’d think I’d learn to use the editing function. But, no.

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  178. OT but can anyone find a good link to Robert Putnam’s
    “E Pluribus Unum: Diversity and Community in the 21st Century”,
    in which he reports that diversity erodes “social capital”?

    The best I can find are a few reviews, but the links I’ve found to the actual paper lead nowhere.

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    • Replies: @Chicago Girl
    Had it bookmarked:
    http://www.u.arizona.edu/~jag/POL596A/Putnam-Immigration-Lecture.pdf
  179. @e
    OT: Did you see this, Steve?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-3480964/Maria-Sharapova-announces-failed-drug-test-Australian-Open-testing-psotive-Meldonium.html

    What an irony it's Sharapova that's caught.

    What an irony it’s Sharapova that’s caught.

    It’s like when Janet Napolitano responded to complaints about the border by putting a sensor-and-cameras system on the Canadian border. Tennis authorities respond to Serena-Williams-inspired suspicion about steroids by busting Sharapova.

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    • Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist
    BFD!!!

    Sharapova was not busted for steriods or HGH.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meldonium

    Meldonium [1](also known as Mildronate, THP, MET-88, Mildronāts or Quaterine[2]) is an anti-ischemic drug that is currently manufactured and marketed by Grindeks, a pharmaceutical company based in Latvia.[3] It is used in Eastern European and ex-Soviet countries for heart conditions, and is sold online. It is not approved by the Food and Drug Administration for use in the United States. Since January 2016, it has been on the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) list of substances banned from use by athletes.[4] Some athletes were using it before it was banned
     
    Was this perhaps a tactical move by Sharapova???

    She gets busted for a obscure Eastern European beta blocker but we are suppose to not notice the Williams sisters.

    Of course Sharapova is being suspended by her sponsors.
  180. @JayMan
    I'd like know how Whites voted in the Democratic races in heavily Black states.

    I’d like know how Whites voted in the Democratic races in heavily Black states.

    I’d like to know what kind of whites vote in the Democratic races in heavily black states.
    Probably all in the teachers’ union. I’d assume the yellow dogs are dead by now.

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    • Replies: @Olorin
    To their credit, the teachers' unions are slowly but surely awakening to the need for battle pay for those who wrangle the most feral dindus.

    I'm not a huge fan of sociopolitical systems whose discourse consists nearly entirely of bitch-whistles. But if you read between the lines, there are many in the Ed Biz who long ago woke up and are trying to figure out how to speak the truth to their own internalized power structures. I talk to teacher ladies fairly often...and, believe me, Philip Chism struck home for many of them.

    (Which reminds me: remember when "wolf whistles" were considered the worst thing that ever happened in public life?)
  181. @Reg Cæsar

    Admittedly, Trump may have considerable crossover appeal but he’s not going to carry Massachusetts
     
    Because Massachusetts is too white and they want Hill (or Bern) to fix this problem?

    Because Massachusetts is not going to vote anything but Democrat in a general election. Just like Utah will be going Republican. It’s bizarre that the leading candidates in the primaries get there by sweeping the heartlands of the other party.

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    Because Massachusetts is not going to vote anything but Democrat in a general election. Just like Utah will be going Republican.
     
    Do you have a contact at Congressional Quarterly? I want to report an error in their Guide to U.S. Elections. It tells me that Ronald Reagan, quite to the right of Trump, carried the Commonwealth twice. Against two pros, Jimmy Carter and Walter Mondale, far more formidable than Mrs C.

    But, as you say, that's patently impossible.

    Because no Republican has won a statewide election in Mass. in three or four or five generations, right?
  182. @CJ
    What an irony it’s Sharapova that’s caught.

    It's like when Janet Napolitano responded to complaints about the border by putting a sensor-and-cameras system on the Canadian border. Tennis authorities respond to Serena-Williams-inspired suspicion about steroids by busting Sharapova.

    BFD!!!

    Sharapova was not busted for steriods or HGH.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meldonium

    Meldonium [1](also known as Mildronate, THP, MET-88, Mildronāts or Quaterine[2]) is an anti-ischemic drug that is currently manufactured and marketed by Grindeks, a pharmaceutical company based in Latvia.[3] It is used in Eastern European and ex-Soviet countries for heart conditions, and is sold online. It is not approved by the Food and Drug Administration for use in the United States. Since January 2016, it has been on the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) list of substances banned from use by athletes.[4] Some athletes were using it before it was banned

    Was this perhaps a tactical move by Sharapova???

    She gets busted for a obscure Eastern European beta blocker but we are suppose to not notice the Williams sisters.

    Of course Sharapova is being suspended by her sponsors.

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  183. @Ed
    Its a good observation that African American voters overwhelmingly support Hillary Clinton over Bernie Sanders, eight years after they overwhelmingly supported Obama over Hillary Clinton, and also that the ones who vote almost always voted for Democratic candidates. A hundred years ago, the ones who were allowed to vote overwhelmingly supported Republican candidates.

    Some interesting things follow from this, for example its a good explanation of why the machine candidate, Clinton, was beaten (barely) in 2008 but is on course to win in 2016. The Democratic Party is a machine politics party and its rare for the machine candidate to lose a nomination contest. Another thing that follows is the tendency of Black voters to block vote. Once you look at other countries that have the same election, the same thing winds up occurring, in that very visible minority groups will block vote. It happens again and again. It happens even in US politics with other groups such as Mormons and Jews, though the most visible and largest minority to do this are the A-As. The voting strategy also makes a fair amount of sense for a visible minority, concentrate your votes on one candidate and party and make yourself an indispensable party of its coalition.

    In addition, its easier to manipulate the votes of poorer voters through vote buying (also to keep them from voting altogether). This was a big argument in the 19th century against universal suffrage. Historically its true, and African-American voters tend to be poorer.

    However, Steve is overthinking this. Only one candidate or party can get a minority block vote by definition. Hillary Clinton got in it 2016 and not 2008. The candidate was exactly the same in both cases, so this is a good controlled experiment that demonstrates that getting a minority block vote or not getting it really doesn't say much about a particular candidate.

    Hillary Clinton got in it 2016 and not 2008. The candidate was exactly the same in both cases, so this is a good controlled experiment that demonstrates that getting a minority block vote or not getting it really doesn’t say much about a particular candidate.

    Its really not that complicated. Blacks voted for Barack Obama (and thus, against Hillary) in 2008, because Obama was Black. They are voting for Hillary in 2016 because there is no Black candidate, and she’s the sort of person who tweets out “selfies” with Kim Kardashian and her idiot boyfriend (whereas Bernie is not that sort of person; he’ll never appear on the cover of People magazine).

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  184. “Whititude” sounds like a future household word. E.g., “seeking equal rights while white,” or, “insufficient deference (in a white) toward People of Color.”

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  185. @Reg Cæsar
    From your link:

    Berry noted that Denton’s mom was a Hungarian Jew “who survived the Nazis” before escaping the Soviet occupation and fleeing to England
     
    Does this mean she was on young Master Soros's census?

    So beautifully cold…I’m stealing it.

    FYI.

    One might suggest that Gyorgi Schwartz’s purported Nazism ranks among the least objectionable of his allegiances/beliefs.

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  186. @Reg Cæsar

    I’d like know how Whites voted in the Democratic races in heavily Black states.
     
    I'd like to know what kind of whites vote in the Democratic races in heavily black states.
    Probably all in the teachers' union. I'd assume the yellow dogs are dead by now.

    To their credit, the teachers’ unions are slowly but surely awakening to the need for battle pay for those who wrangle the most feral dindus.

    I’m not a huge fan of sociopolitical systems whose discourse consists nearly entirely of bitch-whistles. But if you read between the lines, there are many in the Ed Biz who long ago woke up and are trying to figure out how to speak the truth to their own internalized power structures. I talk to teacher ladies fairly often…and, believe me, Philip Chism struck home for many of them.

    (Which reminds me: remember when “wolf whistles” were considered the worst thing that ever happened in public life?)

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  187. @Solon
    It is not that blacks hate Bernie. It is that that they have been 'propaganized' to believe that Bill was ' the first black president' and that the Clintons truly represents their interest.

    The truth is Bernie represent their interest much much much better that Hillary does. Bernie is a true man of integrity but the Clintons know how to milk the system. Perception is reality . Hence statements that erroneously support the Clintons as the better choice.

    I think he gave a much more vigorous and assertive presentation of his policies in this last debate than at any other time. He is learning the ropes...in my view he won that debate hands down .
    He is the only one with such immaculate integrity in the presidential race. Though it can work against him because he is a gentleman , that alone should win him the nomination. Many informed black leaders such as Harry Belafonte, recognize his virtue and the superiority of his policies and so endorse him unconditionally. So would the others once the light is shone on both of them and the coin drops.

    Perception is reality .

    No, perception is most decidedly not reality. People get duped, yet reality remains unchanged.

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  188. @CJ
    Because Massachusetts is not going to vote anything but Democrat in a general election. Just like Utah will be going Republican. It's bizarre that the leading candidates in the primaries get there by sweeping the heartlands of the other party.

    Because Massachusetts is not going to vote anything but Democrat in a general election. Just like Utah will be going Republican.

    Do you have a contact at Congressional Quarterly? I want to report an error in their Guide to U.S. Elections. It tells me that Ronald Reagan, quite to the right of Trump, carried the Commonwealth twice. Against two pros, Jimmy Carter and Walter Mondale, far more formidable than Mrs C.

    But, as you say, that’s patently impossible.

    Because no Republican has won a statewide election in Mass. in three or four or five generations, right?

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    I think CJ may be thinking that the minority population in the People's Commonwealth is far greater today than in Reagan's day. Left out of the equation is the abundance of persnickety independent voters and what were once called Reagan Democrats, who pushed a decidedly mediocre Scott Brown over the top against another tone-deaf ice queen, Martha Coakley. During that election union sign holders used to joke about the irony that they were getting cash to hold Coakley signs but they were voting for Brown.

    Brown's mistake was moving left when he ran against Granny Fauxcahontas, in direct opposition to those supporting him the first time. I like the chances of a guy like Trump, a personality more than a politician.
  189. @Anonymous
    Israel is in the Mediterranean, and Jews are Mediterranean.

    It would be harder to be more wrong.

    Jewish people are overwhelmingly not “Mediterranean” genetically. Their origin way back might be “Khazar” or central Asian, or simply middle eastern Semitic, but it’s not “Mediterranean.”

    Since migrating from wherever the Hell, a very large proportion of “Jews” have acquired substantial white European genes, particularly German or Slavic (Russian and Polish above all). The majority of so-called Jews are probably at least a quarter non-Jew, often more, without even accounting for more recent intermarriage.

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    A recent full-genome sequencing study corroborates previous large autosomal DNA population genetic studies and shows that the ancestry of Ashkenazi Jews is roughly half Southern European and half Middle Eastern.
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    @RadicalCenter
    It would be harder to be more wrong.

    Jewish people are overwhelmingly not "Mediterranean" genetically. Their origin way back might be "Khazar" or central Asian, or simply middle eastern Semitic, but it's not "Mediterranean."

    Since migrating from wherever the Hell, a very large proportion of "Jews" have acquired substantial white European genes, particularly German or Slavic (Russian and Polish above all). The majority of so-called Jews are probably at least a quarter non-Jew, often more, without even accounting for more recent intermarriage.

    A recent full-genome sequencing study corroborates previous large autosomal DNA population genetic studies and shows that the ancestry of Ashkenazi Jews is roughly half Southern European and half Middle Eastern.

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  191. @International Jew
    OT but can anyone find a good link to Robert Putnam's
    “E Pluribus Unum: Diversity and Community in the 21st Century”,
    in which he reports that diversity erodes "social capital"?

    The best I can find are a few reviews, but the links I've found to the actual paper lead nowhere.
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  192. @Reg Cæsar

    Because Massachusetts is not going to vote anything but Democrat in a general election. Just like Utah will be going Republican.
     
    Do you have a contact at Congressional Quarterly? I want to report an error in their Guide to U.S. Elections. It tells me that Ronald Reagan, quite to the right of Trump, carried the Commonwealth twice. Against two pros, Jimmy Carter and Walter Mondale, far more formidable than Mrs C.

    But, as you say, that's patently impossible.

    Because no Republican has won a statewide election in Mass. in three or four or five generations, right?

    I think CJ may be thinking that the minority population in the People’s Commonwealth is far greater today than in Reagan’s day. Left out of the equation is the abundance of persnickety independent voters and what were once called Reagan Democrats, who pushed a decidedly mediocre Scott Brown over the top against another tone-deaf ice queen, Martha Coakley. During that election union sign holders used to joke about the irony that they were getting cash to hold Coakley signs but they were voting for Brown.

    Brown’s mistake was moving left when he ran against Granny Fauxcahontas, in direct opposition to those supporting him the first time. I like the chances of a guy like Trump, a personality more than a politician.

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    • Replies: @CJ
    I'll just say Reg is an optimist. I'd like him to be right. Massachusetts also used to have a couple of Republican congressmen in the Reagan years, but not lately.
  193. Hey Sailer,

    check out graph, with the axis axes barely changed enough to avoid having to cite you for their stolen graph. <a href="http://m.dailykos.com/story/2016/03/08/1498148/-Total-Votes-in-Primaries-So-Far/story/2016/03/08/1498148/-Total-Votes-in-Primaries-So-Far/

    Or just use this link if I messed up the hypertext

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  194. Now the graph in that post is “Reports of the firewall have been validated”

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  195. @Brutusale
    I think CJ may be thinking that the minority population in the People's Commonwealth is far greater today than in Reagan's day. Left out of the equation is the abundance of persnickety independent voters and what were once called Reagan Democrats, who pushed a decidedly mediocre Scott Brown over the top against another tone-deaf ice queen, Martha Coakley. During that election union sign holders used to joke about the irony that they were getting cash to hold Coakley signs but they were voting for Brown.

    Brown's mistake was moving left when he ran against Granny Fauxcahontas, in direct opposition to those supporting him the first time. I like the chances of a guy like Trump, a personality more than a politician.

    I’ll just say Reg is an optimist. I’d like him to be right. Massachusetts also used to have a couple of Republican congressmen in the Reagan years, but not lately.

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  196. @candid_observer
    One significant problem with focusing on the split in the white vote in states, rather than on the white percentage of voters overall in a state is that the white voters who identify as Democratic or Republican are going to vary a great deal depending on (or at least correlated with) how many blacks are in that state.

    In particular, in the South, it probably requires a fairly rare breed of white voter to identify as Democratic rather than Republican. On the other hand, in Massachusetts, for example, the good majority of whites across all socio-economic classes identify as Democratic. It becomes difficult therefore to compare the white voting population in those distinct cases, and draw general inferences.

    I think you’re getting at the issue of self-perceived “ethnicities” within the 200-million-strong “White American” designated racial category.

    This phenomenon is difficult to pin down, rarely discussed in direct terms as regards the present day (talking about it in historical terms is alright), because most prefer to imagine it doesn’t exist. It makes many would-be American nationalists and White Nationalists uncomfortable just as much as it makes so-called liberals uncomfortable.

    Most Whites with deep roots in the ex-CSA will perceive their ethnicity to be “Southern” (a rather lame designation, if you ask me, because it is so unspecific, America-centric, and alas a negative identity ["not Northern"]; they deserve a better appellation akin to “Yankee” [a term with its own problems and convoluted story, but that could apply to the WASPs of the northeast]). The “Southern ethnicity” is no longer a large majority anymore in its own hearthland, and a significant share of the 2016 White Democratic primary voters will be Whites of other “ethnicities,” especially, notably, in Virginia with its high Rubio vote.

    Then you have Massachusetts and similar states, with strong traditions of other, largely Catholic, “ethnicities.” MSNBC is full of Irish Catholics, and if you watch their election coverage, it seems almost an entirely Irish Catholic affair (Matthews, Williams, O’Donnell, Hayes, Todd, formerly elder Russert and now Russert’s son, arguably Maddow [partially Irish-Catholic ancestry but 'very very [secular] Catholic’ by identity]). The handful of grinning, token Nonwhites complement this group. A close analysis of their commentary reveals the identitarian bent to their politics, to some extent or other, even though it’s been generations away from Ireland, or wherever.

    Much more could be written on this, and it occasionally comes up on I-Steve. As the Nonwhite Coalition is fragile, in a sense so is the White Coalition. It doesn’t make me particularly happy to say this.

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  197. @Olorin
    Depends on whether you're talking about Portland, Oregon, or Portland, Maine.

    Portland, Maine, was 96% white in 1990, 85% white today.

    Maine is 95% white.

    Portland, Oregon, is only 76% white, and the city contains 2/3 of Oregon's black population.

    Oregon: 78% white, 12% Hispanic.

    “Depends on whether you’re talking about Portland, Oregon, or Portland, Maine.

    Portland, Maine, was 96% white in 1990, 85% white today.

    Maine is 95% white.

    Portland, Oregon, is only 76% white, and the city contains 2/3 of Oregon’s black population.

    Oregon: 78% white, 12% Hispanic.”

    Portland, Oregon is still significantly Whiter than the nation as a whole.

    Also 76 percent White is still extremely White, especially when looking from the viewpoint of Sub Saharan eyes.

    Heck many Blacks in my hometown of San Francisco complain that this city is way too White and we are down to being 41 percent White.

    When even San Francisco is too White for the Dindu Nuffins, you know Portland, Oregon will be even more so.

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  198. @NJ Transit Commuter
    Perhaps my imagination is just being overactive, but if it were southern whites instead of southern blacks refusing to vote for a Jewish candidate for president, wouldn't there have been a bunch of articles about anti-Semitism rearing its ugly head in Dixie?

    “Perhaps my imagination is just being overactive, but if it were southern whites instead of southern blacks refusing to vote for a Jewish candidate for president, wouldn’t there have been a bunch of articles about anti-Semitism rearing its ugly head in Dixie?”

    Polls have shown that hatred of Jews is a lot more common in the African American community than it is in the Goy community.

    Louis Farrakhan has a lot more infuence in the African American community than David Duke has in the White community.

    Louis Farrakhan can organize 1 million Black supporters to come out to support him and hear him speak.

    David Duke can not even organize a group of 100 hundred Whites to come out to support him at a rally, let alone 1 million Whites.

    David Duke would not even be able to convince Steve Sailer to be a supporter of his, let alone convince Whites who are less Right Wing than Steve.

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