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Europe is, of course, the world’s greatest tourist attraction. It’s beautiful, charming, and fascinating.

Unsurprisingly, Donald Trump, who has made a career out of not being ashamed to like nice things, has stated that he wishes Europe to stay much as it is rather than be inundated by hundreds of millions of Third World immigrants. Various respectable spokespeople, such as Heidi Beirich of the SPLC, have been struggling to come up with an explanation of why that is such a horrible thing to say.

A different President, however, was more in tune with our age’s growing feeling that the existence of Europe is insensitive to many people not of European descent (and to those who choose not to acknowledge their European ancestry for literary performance reasons). As with most prose effusions by him, it’s hard to excerpt, although the final sentence is concise. From Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance by Barack Obama:

CHAPTER FIFTEEN

I FLEW OUT OF HEATHROW Airport under stormy skies. .. a pale, gangly youth, still troubled with acne-took the seat beside me.

“Nairobi’s a beautiful place, I hear. Wouldn’t mind stopping off there one of these days. Going to Johannesburg, I am.” … “But then the rest of Africa’s falling apart now, isn’t it? Least from what I can tell. The blacks in South Africa aren’t starving to death like they do in some of these Godforsaken countries. Don’t envy them, mind you, but compared to some poor bugger in Ethiopia-” …

I pulled out a book from my carry-on bag and tried to read. It was a portrait of several African countries written by a Western journalist [most likely The Africans by David Lamb of the Los Angeles Times] who’d spent a decade in Africa; an old Africa hand, he would be called, someone who apparently prided himself on the balanced assessment. The book’s first few chapters discussed the history of colonialism at some length: the manipulation of tribal hatreds and the caprice of colonial boundaries, the displacements, the detentions, the indignities large and small. The early heroism of independence figures like Kenyatta and Nkrumah was duly noted, their later drift toward despotism attributed at least in part to various Cold War machinations.

But by the book’s third chapter, images from the present had begun to outstrip the past. Famine, disease, the coups and countercoups led by illiterate young men wielding AK-47s like shepherd sticks-if Africa had a history, the writer seemed to say, the scale of current suffering had rendered such history meaningless.

Poor buggers. Godforsaken countries.

I set the book down, feeling a familiar anger flush through me, an anger all the more maddening for its lack of a clear target. Beside me the young Brit was snoring softly now, his glasses askew on his fin-shaped nose. Was I angry at him? I wondered. Was it his fault that, for all my education, all the theories in my possession, I had had no ready answers to the questions he’d posed? How much could I blame him for wanting to better his lot? Maybe I was just angry because of his easy familiarity with me, his assumption that I, as an American, even a black American, might naturally share in his dim view of Africa; an assumption that in his world at least marked a progress of sorts, but that for me only underscored my own uneasy status: a Westerner not entirely at home in the West, an African on his way to a land full of strangers.

I’d been feeling this way all through my stay in Europe-edgy, defensive, hesitant with strangers. I hadn’t planned it that way. I had thought of the layover there as nothing more than a whimsical detour, an opportunity to visit places I had never been before. For three weeks I had traveled alone, down one side of the continent and up the other, by bus and by train mostly, a guidebook in hand. I took tea by the Thames and watched children chase each other through the chestnut groves of Luxembourg Garden. I crossed the Plaza Mejor at high noon, with its De Chirico shadows and sparrows swirling across cobalt skies; and watched night fall over the Palatine, waiting for the first stars to appear, listening to the wind and its whispers of mortality.

And by the end of the first week or so, I realized that I’d made a mistake. It wasn’t that Europe wasn’t beautiful; everything was just as I’d imagined it. It just wasn’t mine.

 
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  1. Anonymous[288] • Disclaimer says:

    There’s a ton of hostility in that passage–it’s oozing hatred, and that’s why I’m pretty sure Obama removed or rewrote it in a later edition, or at least in the audiobook reading (Obama’s reading, of course–no one else could do justice to his precious writing). In the audiobook, he simply recounts the European detour in pretty factual terms without discussing how “it wasn’t his” or how uncomfortable he felt there.

    • Agree: AndrewR
  2. Lefty says:

    So, because a young black man has this feeling that he doesn’t belong in Europe, we should assume that the older version of that man, that then became President of the United States, felt, in his secret heart, that the world would be better off if the entire continent was overrun by Africans? Is that the correct interpretation?

  3. Europe doesn’t have to be all white. Most of us would be satisfied if it were merely as white as the SPLC’s leadership.

    And donor pool.

    • LOL: AnotherDad
    • Replies: @Prester John
    , @Kylie
    , @Rob McX
  4. There’s a new memoir in the works, full of inside dope, written by two very old hard-boiled Irish political operatives from Boston, its called Barackie, We Hardly Knew Ye!

    • LOL: Hibernian
  5. @Lefty

    It’s not in Obama’s secret heart, it’s in his autobiography.

    A lot of respectable people are trying to explain why it’s horrible that Trump is against Europe being overrun by Africans. Obama’s memoir can provide some insight into why many Establishment figures think that to save Europe, they must destroy Europe: it’s insensitive for Europe to have nice old things built by the ancestors of Europeans. It makes people of other races feel bad about their ancestry.

  6. We need a genetic study of whether exporting the badasses made Europeans pussies. Between 1620 and 1920, Europe sent almost every (non-aristocratic) person of great ambition abroad, and those Europeans populated much of the earth. Surely this would be an easy question for genetic analysis. I’d suggest someone start with testosterone-related genes.

  7. Gracebear says:

    Does anyone think Obama knew anything about De Chirico’s paintings? This whole thing sounds just like Bill Ayers, the real writer of “Dreams from My Father.” Also, the idea in the last sentence is straight out of James Baldwin, who said the same thing several decades earlier.

  8. I dunno Steve, you doth protest too much on this I think.

    What I’m reading here is no different from what a poorer American, Japanese or Chinese or even me might feel when confronted with the wealth and privilege of Europe–competition born out of envy.

    You know, that one can’t enjoy this, “it isn’t mine”.

    I will remind you that it was Europeans who pushed both for Gaddafi and Assad’s ousting, not President Obama. Lezz zem eat cake, I say!

  9. Anonymous[288] • Disclaimer says:

    And obviously the “Brit” who took a seat next to him on the flight from Heathrow is pure fiction–no way anything like what Barry’s describing happened–the “Brit” is straight out of central casting–but it makes for a nice set up to his thesis.

    It’s hilarious that it took inconsistencies about a pasty ex-girlfriend or two for Obama to admit to Mariniss that a lot of “Dreams” was simply made up. It’s a work of fiction, just like his relationship with Obama senior. He writes a ridiculous book about some guy he never knew, who never gave a crap about him, and threw the only people who ever cared about him under the bus at every turn.

    What a disgusting human being!

  10. Achilles says:

    For three weeks I had traveled alone…And by the end of the first week or so, I realized that I’d made a mistake.

    His mistake, I would suggest, was traveling alone.

    It’s one thing if one has a gregarious personality and makes friends easily, a hail-fellow-well-met attitude, one who enjoys swapping stories and is willing to buy a round and avoids getting drawn into arguments.

    One could make friends in the first youth hostel on the first night and end up traveling Europe with them for the next three weeks.

    But on the other hand if one is a dour, supercilious, vulgar/cultural marxist scold always balancing a giant chip on one’s shoulder, then one might not easily make friends while traveling.

    Had he traveled with friends, even some of his odd Paki buddies, it would have been much more enjoyable and he likely would have ended up with a more favorable impression of the places he visited. Certainly he would have spent less time dwelling on his own (or in this text is it Bill Ayers’?) obsessions and projecting them onto the world around him.

  11. @Gracebear

    Did Obama take an art history class in college? A De Chirico painting is in most art history textbooks. It’s not a terribly obscure reference.

  12. @Anonymous

    And obviously the “Brit” who took a seat next to him on the flight from Heathrow is pure fiction

    Well, I read the book Obama reads on the flight and he gives an accurate description of The Africans by David Lamb.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  13. Responding to Obama’s quote, it makes me like him (I have a hard time imagining he wrote the description of each stop on his European itinerary, but maybe). He’s a shrewd, intelligent exotic-American of non-slave descent. He threw in completely with American blacks when he married Michelle. He’s apparently been faithful to her, and now his posterity is 3/4 African.

    Now that his presidency has been finished for more than a year, the question becomes: how did his racial heritage affect his decisions as president? Is that why Valerie Jarret and Eric Holder were welcomed into vast power? Is that why he chose Sotomayor for the Supreme Court (presumably he expects Kagan will lead to a named professorship and $500,000 sinecure at Harvard Law whenever he makes a phone call)? What to make of Susan Rice’s resume and results? Loretta Lynch?

    • Replies: @Peter Johnson
  14. It wasn’t that Europe wasn’t beautiful; everything was just as I’d imagined it. It just wasn’t mine.

    That sounds almost exactly like something Chesterton said about Christian orthodoxy.

    It was a portrait of several African countries written by a Western journalist [most likely The Africans by David Lamb of the Los Angeles Times]

    This was before Keith Richburg’s Out of America (1997), I presume. That makes Lamb’s book look almost laudatory.

  15. @Anonymous

    And obviously the “Brit” who took a seat next to him on the flight from Heathrow is pure fiction–no way anything like what Barry’s describing happened–the “Brit” is straight out of central casting–but it makes for a nice set up to his thesis.

    Assuming he wrote it, or influenced its direction at least, the Brit could be considered an amalgamation of European men of his generation. Basically cool and good natured, but from a vastly superior culture, maybe, or perhaps race, the worst possible thought imaginable (to Obama, being half African and educated at the finest schools to believe in the blank slate theory).

  16. Anonymous[288] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    We’re not talking about the book or whether he was on the plane or at Heathrow. The question is: did some pasty snob of a “Brit” sit next to him and go out of his way to snark on about Blacks and Africa. It’s utter nonsense.

    As a review of the 2017 biography by David Garrow summarizes:

    “The author is harsh but persuasive in his reading of “Dreams From My Father,” for instance, calling it not a memoir but a work of “historical fiction,” in which the “most important composite character was the narrator himself.””

    I suspect very little of “Dreams” is true. Barry likes to make stuff up–his whole life is one cheesy pose.

  17. Stanley Ann Dunham was…of predominantly English ancestry, with some German, Swiss, Scottish, Irish, and Welsh ancestry.

    Europe was certainly “his” if he wanted it to be his. He abandoned the culture and heritage of his mother for the culture of his father; abandoned the culture of the family that raised him for the culture of the father who abandoned him.

    Why? Because when he looked in the mirror he saw a black guy? He wants the rest of America to see past skin color when he couldn’t even see past it himself, even after all the (mostly unearned) advantages that the people descended from the ‘Europe that wasn’t his’ bestowed upon him, including admission to some of the finest schools in the land.

  18. @Steve Sailer

    It’s not a terribly obscure reference.

    No, just a terribly obscure vision. Dali meets Escher.

    From the Breitbart link on your tweet (can you even imagine saying “link on your tweet” 20 years ago?):

    …an excuse to make a weekend cocktail of alcohol and theatrical aggression before they report back to work on Monday.

    No one has described it better. A Mullet-off cocktail!

  19. istevefan says:
    @Uilleam Yr Alban

    We need a genetic study of whether exporting the badasses made Europeans pussies.

    I imagine you killed off a lot of your badasses in WW1 and WW2. However, the big thing seems to have been the complete cultural domination of post war Europe (at least Western Europe) by the United States. The part of Europe that was occupied by the Soviets still seems somewhat badass. But the part that has been heavily influenced by the USA is not.

  20. Lurker says:
    @Lefty

    We don’t know but has he said or done anything since that would significantly change that?

    • Replies: @Lefty
  21. istevefan says:
    @Nigerian Nationalist

    I will remind you that it was Europeans who pushed both for Gaddafi and Assad’s ousting, not President Obama. Lezz zem eat cake, I say!

    And I will remind you that the demographic transformation of Europe did not begin with the downfall of Gaddafi in 2011. It has been going on for over 50 years now.

  22. Berty says:

    What a prick Obama was. It’s fortunate for us that he was also very lazy and arrogant, otherwise his administration would have been far more destructive than it was.

    • Agree: sayless
  23. Twinkie says:
    @Steve Sailer

    It makes people of other races feel bad about their ancestry.

    I don’t think it makes people of, say, East Asian ancestry feel bad about their ancestry to visit Europe and marvel at the beauty of its churches and civilizational glory. Given the massive tour groups from East Asia who can’t get enough of Paris or Rome, I’d say there is rather a lot of admiration and regard from those “people of other races.”

    That anti-European sentiment is mostly a black thing or, more accurately, jealousies of those ethno-national groups that are drenched with anti-(European) colonial ideologies (news flash to them: that’s been over for a long time).

    You should stop playing up this white/non-white dichotomy of the world, Mr. Sailer. It’s based on an (outdated) American domestic view of races as white or black that does not capture reality very well.

  24. I’m pretty sure that passage is more or less plagiarized from a James Baldwin piece.

  25. Coag says:
    @Nigerian Nationalist

    What I’m reading here is no different from what a poorer American, Japanese or Chinese or even me might feel when confronted with the wealth and privilege of Europe–competition born out of envy.

    You know, that one can’t enjoy this, “it isn’t mine”.

    Americans, Japanese, and Chinese tend to earnestly admire Europe’s good qualities, even if they identify and reject certain aspects of Europe out of a sense of incompatibility with their own respective worldviews.

    Miserable envy, or “playa hatin’” in Urban American parlance, is more of a distinctly African tendency.

    Europhilia is a respected hobby in the parts of the world that you bring up, for instance classical European music’s last redoubt will probably be among China’s tiger moms enrolling their kids in violin lessons.

    Indeed it’s common knowledge in East Asia that Western Europe is becoming a lousy vacation spot due to all the incorrigible third world squatters, and that Europe has got to dial up the ethnocentrism if it wants to save itself. See Air China’s helpful official warning to customers that London is overrun by Pakistanis and blacks.

  26. Twinkie says:
    @Nigerian Nationalist

    What I’m reading here is no different from what a poorer American, Japanese or Chinese or even me might feel when confronted with the wealth and privilege of Europe–competition born out of envy.

    No. There has been – historically – rather a lot of admiration for Old Europe from the groups you mentioned.

    Do you know about Savile Row? That’s where the traditional English bespoke suits are tailored. Guess which two cities in the world have the vast majority of clients of Savile Row today… New York City and Tokyo.

    • Replies: @Nigerian Nationalist
  27. Twinkie says:
    @Anonymous

    He writes a ridiculous book about some guy he never knew, who never gave a crap about him, and threw the only people who ever cared about him under the bus at every turn.

    What a disgusting human being!

    Obama struck me as a very defective personality – one who seemed to betray negative emotions about the very people who raised him (to success) all the while seeking the adulations of the masses of strangers and evincing an unearned sense of superiority (Michelle Obama: “Sometimes I have to remind him that he too is a mere mortal”).

    I suppose it’s the stereotypical actress personality. And we turned over the stewardship of the country to that for eight years.

  28. Babies Mr. Sailer.
    Babies.
    There’s really nothing else to talk about.

  29. @Lefty

    That is the correct interpretation. And by extension, Obama’s view was that America would be better if it were overrun by Mexicans and Central Americans.

  30. Sean says:
    @Lefty

    “Fin shaped nose” is not a racial complement. He was not that young when he wrote the memoir, and it saying things about the skin colour, long narrow nose and short sightedness of white people yet the author then getting elected as president by them shows the shoe was on the other foot.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  31. The naivete of the unfortunate young white man is interesting. Educated African-Americans of course tend to be hostile to white Europe and identify with a romantic vision of Africa. Of course educated African-Africans tend to take a dim view of African-Americans and do not have any reciprocal interest; whereas white Europeans find African-Americans fascinating. If the young white man had been sat beside an upper middle class Kenyan discussing what a terrible state the African-American US cities were in he would likely have got agreement (plus possibly a yawn).

    Also, from outside the USA, Americans of any race tend to look a lot more like each other than different, with particular cultural hangups and features, notably their assumption that the rest of the world is basically just like America (Brits do this too with regard to other Anglosphere countries, not so much the whole planet) with America’s attitudes to race etc. I think this is particularly true of left-liberal Americans.

  32. Anonym says:
    @Uilleam Yr Alban

    We need a genetic study of whether exporting the badasses made Europeans pussies. Between 1620 and 1920, Europe sent almost every (non-aristocratic) person of great ambition abroad, and those Europeans populated much of the earth. Surely this would be an easy question for genetic analysis. I’d suggest someone start with testosterone-related genes.

    It’s not like the Anglosphere is really less cucked than the Old World.

    • Agree: Cagey Beast
    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  33. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @istevefan

    Certainly, German Gemütlichkeit as an openly stated social order and 73 years (easy way to remember, Hitler died roughly three months before Debbie Harry hit the linen, which as everyone knows off the top of their heads was 1 July 45) of the British Army of the Rhine and USAREUR have pussified a large number of German males.

    But, the German diet is somewhat better than ours, and they are definitely on average more physically fit. There are still more Germans who embody virtus in the old Roman sense than the globalists would like, as a segment of the population, and there are a lot of young Germans who still know the old songs, if you know what I mean. Completely ruling the idea of a German renaissance out could be a fatal mistake for the opposition force.

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
    , @Jack D
  34. Anonym says:
    @Twinkie

    I suppose it’s the stereotypical actress personality. And we turned over the stewardship of the country to that for eight years.

    Obama was elected to prove that goodwhites, the Baizuo, aren’t racist. It didn’t have to be Obama. It could have been Morgan Freeman or Bill Cosby or if early enough, OJ Simpson.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
  35. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Nigerian Nationalist

    I don’t think the issue was that Europe wasn’t his. People enjoy places that aren’t theirs all the time. I think it was the humiliating contrast between Europe and Africa that bothered him.

    Maybe if Obama remembered that he was half European by ancestry, he would have better enjoyed his trip.

  36. What and where is ‘Plaza Mejor’?

  37. Flip says:

    That passage is pretty well written. I’ve seen references to Ayers saying he wrote it.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  38. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:

    OT Salon.com:
    The fight against affirmative action at Harvard could threaten rich whites

    Inexplicably, Salon forgot the parens around “rich whites”…

  39. @Twinkie

    Yes, Chinese and Japanese seem to take an uncomplicated enjoyment in the glories of Old Europe. They don’t have resentment born of an inferiority complex since their own civilisations are pretty impressive too. Also they just seem to be well attuned to appreciating beautiful stuff, like European classical music, classical architecture, formal gardens etc. They seem to most appreciate the 18th century era, which I guess was arguably the height of European culture.

    It’s somewhat striking to me that educated Indians don’t feel the same, despite having a fairly impressive civilisation – whether from British colonialism, different inherent habits of mind, or greater Westernisation, many do often resent European civilisation. More than African-Africans I think, who mostly just don’t care.

  40. Mr. Anon says:
    @Lefty

    So, because a young black man has this feeling that he doesn’t belong in Europe, we should assume that the older version of that man, that then became President of the United States, felt, in his secret heart, that the world would be better off if the entire continent was overrun by Africans? Is that the correct interpretation?

    Sales of Dreams From My Father really took off after Obama’s Keynote address at the 2004 convention, when he was running for the Senate seat he won, and when his presidential ambitions became obvious. The animus against western civilization was pretty clearly still there in the older Obama.

  41. Das says:

    This post is a bit of a stretch.

    Obama didn’t feel at home on his vacation in Europe, understandably (it’s not his home!), so as revenge he uh… elected Angela Merkel and uh… forced her to open up Europe’s border?

    However dumb Obama’s views on refugees are, it was Europe’s leadership that made the decision to bring in millions of Middle Easterners and Africans.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Chrisnonymous
  42. One fundamental problem our western societies face is the following:

    Ethnic Sub-Saharan Africans do not, on average, have the intellectual or behavioral capacity to compete for social and economic success in the modern high-tech world, but at the same time they have superior capacity (along with Muslim Asians) to out-compete Europeans and East Asians demographically. This leaves the social order in disarray, and the public consensus does not allow this underlying problem to be discussed candidly.

    Hence we have the spectacle of a very bright young half-African (Barack Obama) and his politically-correct ghost writer trying to misinterpret the superb achievements of European civilization, compared to those of primitive Sub-Saharan Africa, as due to some sort of western colonialist conspiracy.

    The difference in civilization success was not due to a colonialist conspiracy, it was due to genetic differences between the ancestral populations. That is the scientific reality. Society needs to come to grips with that factual reality and stop deluding itself with colonialist conspiracy theories.

    • Agree: TTSSYF, Kylie
    • Replies: @JEG
  43. JMcG says:
    @Nigerian Nationalist

    In my youth I was a poorer American. I went down Western Europe and up the eastern side for 700.00 plus a round trip ticket on People’s Express. I drank up what I saw like cold water on a hot day. You are as wrong as wrong can be.

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  44. JMcG says:
    @istevefan

    The Brits were badass at least as late as the Falklands War in 1982. I met some British Army guys while climbing in the Canadian Rockies back in the 80’s and they pretty much left my pretty fit self gasping.

  45. jim jones says:
    @Anonymous

    When I am traveling I have a policy of never sitting near Black people

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  46. JMcG says:
    @Simon in London

    “Americans of any race tend to look more like each other than different.”
    What can you possibly mean by this?

    • Replies: @Simon in London
  47. Obama was just being sincere.

    Erik Rush, a (black) journalist who had questioned Obama’s birth certificate wrote an interesting article years ago, about his white colleague who had dated a black woman for 3 years & finally broke with her. In an intimate conversation, he confided Rush that woman was OK, but he just couldn’t had imagined his children not being like him, i.e. white. Rush then made a thought experiment of himself with various types of WW, from Puerto Ricans to Nordic types. He wrote that while with Puerto Ricans he experienced a slight discomfort, with Nordic females, at the end of “white spectrum”- it was close to cultural shock & something viscerally wrong and out of place. The idea of mixed children- who would still be black according to our criteria- also didn’t appeal to him, and the imaginary family portrait of him, his “Nordic” wife & mulatto children appeared to him as something alien & absurd- like jazz theme in Mozart’s quartet.

    What about other racial/cultural minorities?

    Minorities interested in, say, classical music are mostly East Asians (Japanese, Koreans, Chinese, Vietnamese,..). South Asians- Indians & Pakistanis, very rarely. Personally, I’ve been a mediator when a Japanese guy from the Netherlands bought a violin from an acquaintance of mine.
    It’s a relief to comment on an article free from Asian-IQ lame supremacist themes & say a word or two on a non-negligible global cultural phenomenon: East Asians are fascinated by European (and American, which partly derives from Europe) “high culture”- ballet, classical music, even great literature (among the most influential writers in Japan have been/are Shakespeare, Dostoevsky, Chekhov, Proust… especially Proust, with his gigantic work of illuminations through introspection). You got symphony orchestra in all major East Asian cities-and Indian, I think.

    Not so in Lagos or Nairobi.

    To draw a rough picture: Latin America is culturally European, even in countries emphatically anti-white. Muslim world isn’t, as a rule, much affected or interested in Western “high culture”. Blacks- Africa etc.- couldn’t care less. India- a mixed reaction, but not too enthusiastic. East Asia- crazy about Western “high culture” (music, literature, even philosophy (Heidegger), arts (Van Gogh, Michelangelo,..). Perhaps sensibilities of these old cultures have something to do with it.

    And blacks ?

    Frankly, if I were black, I would find all these folks, from Montaigne, Byrd and Michelangelo via Gibbon, Bach and Goya to Bruckner, Rouault, Kafka and D.H. Lawrence – utterly alien. Even Gershwin’s “Porgy and Bess” wouldn’t change my mind. Who cares about counterpoint, polyphony, the fugue, chromatic modulation, high Renaissance, the baroque, romanticism, expressionism, high modernism ….too alien, too “white”.

    Specific pathologies aside, many blacks seem to possess exasperating combination of lower introspection capacity & emotional/mental immaturity. Just think of a few manifestations – which may be even self-destructive, present in paradigmata of Western culture: Aeschylus’ Prometheus, Melville’s Captain Ahab, Goethe’s Faust. Can you imagine blacks as “titanic” figures ? No, I guess you can’t; they can be bullies at most. White self-confidence is something entirely different- even in the perverted or larger-than-life, hubris-like forms- it is challenge to the “gods” or courage against odds (Thermopylae, Alamo) – not narcissist posturing of Bantu clowns.

    What about introspection ?

    Hamlet, Socrates in Plato’s dialogs, St. Augustine in his confessions ? Internal struggle as described by St. Paul in his “Epistle to Romans” ? Or Confucius’ saying: “The superior man understands righteousness; the inferior man understands profit.”

    Does this describe even blacks’ elite behavior ?
    I guess we know the answer.

  48. @Uilleam Yr Alban

    That doesn’t explain why the colonies are also rammed to the rafters of ethno-masochists and SJW lunatics. There’s some kind of reversion to mean going on: the tough taciturn settlers that carved Canada, Australia and New Zealand from nothing have given way to extreme liberals. Australia’s the most baffling, as many of the original population were semi-literate scumbags and criminals but the eastern cities of the country are now teeming with hysterical leftists who can’t do away with themselves fast enough.

    • Agree: bomag
    • Replies: @Wick
    , @Yak-15
    , @Russ
  49. @Achilles

    Exactly. Who the hell tours Europe alone as a youngster, brooding darkly all the while? There are drinking partners lurking around every corner, in every hostel, and an Irish pub in every town and village.

    The whole story makes him sound like a complete wanker. Europe is a blast when young, and being alone is no impediment, it’s often better as it forces you to meet people.

    The world is going to pay a long rolling price for decades for the Americans having elected this tosser President for eight years. He’s unlocked a vast box of resentments and set them loose on the world.

    • Agree: Forbes
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Anon
  50. @Simon in London

    It’s a bit more complicated than that. Many Japanese seem to be under the impression that they, Americans, and Europeans all live in a common, modern, first-world society. The division they see is not so much between their culture and Europe’s but between the present and the past. The reason they aren’t wallowing in resentments has at least some to do with the post-WWII propaganda aimed at them both from the US and their own government. In my years in Japan, I have never, ever heard a Japanese express a sentiment such as “Yes, Mont St Michel is nice, but the Great Buddha of Nara is also nice although different…”

    I’m not dissing East Asian cultures, and there are probably people who think in terms of equivalency, but I don’t think that’s a bulwark holding back racial resentments among Japanese, Chinese, and Koreans.

  51. Europe is pretty, but It’s still the shithole my ancestors fled. (Just like their ancestors fled the even bigger shithole of Africa.)

  52. @Simon in London

    If educated upper class Indians had any shame, and I’m not sure they do, Europe should serve as reflection on what an odious job they’ve gone running their own continent for thousands of years. They are the exploiters of the masses non pareil, and the desperate attempts of their intellectuals to turn India’s plight back on the British is pathetic projection that fools no one with a working brain and eyes who visits the place.

    The only place I’ve seen serious amounts of Indian tourists in Europe so far is Interlaken in Switzerland, where they take the train up to the Jungfrau glacier after a long coach ride from Paris. I suspect vast numbers are on their way though.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Edward
  53. Anne Lid says:

    When we go to the National Gallery on London, there are only a few black faces among visitors, not counting the guards. Same thing when visiting smaller historical landmarks. Where we used to live, the English were a minority, and a part of the whites were Eastern Europians. In the schools whites were clearly a minority. I visited an African aquintance who lived in a converted Victorian school. She was not impressed at all by her beautiful building and its rich history, and this is a general attitude from what I saw. Africans as a group just don’t care for Europian culture.

  54. bomag says:
    @Lefty

    …felt, in his secret heart, that the world would be better off if the entire continent was overrun by Africans?

    Few really believe this in their “secret heart”. The prime motivation is a hatred of Whites. If the ghetto expands in service to removing Whites, that’s just a price to be paid.

  55. Wick says:
    @Cowboy Shaw

    As far as New Zealand goes, I’d say it’s pretty dependent on where you go and who you talk to, can’t comment on Oz. The hysterical types tend to concentrate in Auckland and Wellington I’ve found. Folks in Otago, parts of Waikato ect seems pretty much the opposite. Not that they think about this stuff much generally. Still that is probably no different from the US or the UK if you compare one of the cities to somewhere out in the arse end of nowhere.

    I do wonder sometimes how much of it is going along to get along type stuff. Maybe there is a primal aspect connected to waking up one day and realising that there are are hell of a lot less of your group than the others and you need to try and keep them from turning on you. so you default to what you think will make them happy.

    • Replies: @Cowboy shaw
  56. @Gracebear

    It will be interesting to see how Obama gets his Memoirs into print. He is getting 40 or 50 million for them, I think. Since it is highly unlikely that he wrote “Dreams” at the very least without a great deal of assistance he is going to need a ghost writer which will destroy the fiction he and his groupies have peddled that he is a gifted writer. But then, listen to him speak for five minutes or so: it is obvious that he doesn’t read much and couldn’t write. As Harvard Law Review Editor he never published anything but touted himself as a “Constitutional Law Scholar.”

  57. @Coag

    Good example here. Young Chinese woman looking for romance in Paris but is disappointed by all the blacks everywhere.

    Also, note white hipster douche.

    • Replies: @Ed
  58. @Lefty

    This quote from Obama’s book is pertinent for two reasons:

    1) It shows what was the right thing for young Obama to say about Old Europe. If he wanted to please his sponsors and potential patrons in the progressive establishment, Obama had to make clear he was their ally against the bad Whites. Here’s Obama’s ambassador to Moscow discussing how he and Obama’s National Security Advisor, Susan Rice cleared this hurdle as well:

    When McFaul was applying for a Rhodes Scholarship, his interviewer took note that McFaul, along with an intelligent and rambunctious classmate named Susan Rice, had helped lead the anti-apartheid movement on the Stanford campus. They occupied a building, campaigned for divestment. Among McFaul’s academic interests was the range of liberation movements in post-colonial Africa: Mozambique, Zimbabwe, and South Africa. How did McFaul reconcile his desire to study at Oxford on a Rhodes, the interviewer inquired, with the fact that its benefactor, Cecil Rhodes, had been a pillar of white supremacy? What would he do with such “blood money”?

    “I will use it to bring down the regime,” McFaul said. In the event, both he and Rice won the blood money and went to Oxford.

    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/08/11/watching-eclipse

    2) The second reason what Obama wrote matters is that his preference for the Other showed up in his policies. His ambassador to France and Monaco, Charles Rivkin made this clear:

    Hip-Hop Diplomacy
    U.S. Cultural Diplomacy Enters a New Era

    https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/united-states/2014-04-16/hip-hop-diplomacy

    U.S. embassy outreach gets respect from Paris immigrants who feel ignored by France https://www.cleveland.com/world/index.ssf/2010/09/us_embassy_outreach_gets_respe.html

    Of course, His Excellency chose not to live in Paris’ vibrant and hip-hoppin’ banlieues. No, it was white tie and chateaus for the Rivkins:

    https://www.gettyimages.ca/pictures/charles-rivkin-4891546#united-states-ambassador-to-france-and-monaco-charles-rivkin-and-are-picture-id461254953

  59. Realist says:
    @Steve Sailer

    It makes people of other races feel bad about their ancestry.

    As well it should.

  60. @Stebbing Heuer

    My guess: Plaza Major in Madrid. Either typo, or obozos writer outsophisticating her/him/itself and changing a spelling to something they think the natives might use, or none of them ever have been there so dont know the real spelling.

  61. @JMcG

    Americans of any race carry a bunch of cultural assumptions with them out into the world, which are not always relevant to the actual situation. Maybe because the USA is such a big country and so influential, the tendency seems more pronounced than with most other nations. For instance in Black Panther, the idea that the African-American experience in South Central LA was something of universal importance.

    • Replies: @JMcG
  62. Anonymous[810] • Disclaimer says:
    @Cowboy Shaw

    Indeed, a fundamental problem with Asians, as with Africans: even if some are tolerable, billions of them most certainly are not.

    Yet that’s what we have (in the first case) or have on the way (in the second). It’s a global nightmare from which there will be no escape.

    • Agree: TTSSYF
  63. Anonymous[810] • Disclaimer says:
    @Simon in London

    Somewhere I read that you can divide Asians into those who eat dogs and those who don’t, but that may not adequately account for Indians.

  64. Ed says:

    I think he speaks the truth for many black people though. Most of the resentment towards whites is rooted in jealousy of not having any really good countries or advancements.

    Look at Haiti it’s the oldest black republic and poorer than most black African countries.

    • Replies: @Lefty
    , @Forbes
  65. Anonymous[810] • Disclaimer says:
    @Cowboy Shaw

    GW Bush did far more damage to the USA and its stature in the world than Barack Obama did. This is not to say that Barack was a prize, but that he had the good fortune to follow the worst president of our age, quite possibly the worst ever.

    In the simple terms of damage done to the USA, Barack Obama was a piker.

  66. Ed says:
    @Twinkie

    This is a good point but I wonder if this extends to South Asians? I tend to detect a strong resentment from Indians and Pakistanis towards the West as well. In America South Asians are increasingly in leadership roles at antagonistic civil rights groups for example.

    • Agree: Clyde
    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    , @Righty
  67. Ed says:
    @Nigerian Nationalist

    This is bull. A poorer Japanese & Chinese (poor Chinese wouldn’t even afford travel) wouldn’t even feel that. They have cultural accomplishments and functioning countries to be proud of. They’d take note of the European wonders and move on.

    • Agree: KenH
    • Replies: @Nigerian Nationalist
  68. rbbarnet says:
    @Nigerian Nationalist

    James Baldwin had the same reaction. Well off Asian tourists love European culture but don’t feel inferior, anymore.

  69. @Ed

    Not surprisingly, South Asians are masters at the art of kissing up and kicking down. In the Anglosphere today, Jews and Whites with money, power and influence make it clear to South Asians that they’ll be rewarded for sticking it to little Whites. Once the South Asians have the rules of the game explained, they take to it with gusto. One simply needs to tell them who the Brahmans are, who the Untouchables are and they’re off and running like a Roomba on hardwood.

  70. Pericles says:
    @Twinkie

    Obama struck me as a very defective personality – one who seemed to betray negative emotions about the very people who raised him (to success) all the while seeking the adulations of the masses of strangers and evincing an unearned sense of superiority.

    Sheeeiiit, maybe all he really wanted was to be another ordinary weed smoking ghetto dweller, an aspiring rapper and community organizer.

  71. Arclight says:

    Obama knew that identifying with his African ancestry is the right play for his ambitions (whether academic or political) but it also means he has to play up the part of his ancestry that he has little to no first hand experience of or influence on him since his father was not a factor, and one that is objectively much, much poorer in terms of culture, achievements, and influence on the world he is part of than the ancestors of the people who actually raised him. This isn’t entirely his fault because our society does treat people that look like him as ‘black’ regardless of whether he is culturally African American (he is not). Obama thinks well of himself and probably feels he has a lot more in common with the more accomplished societies of Europe than those of Africa, but he cannot say/do so and have a career.

    • Agree: Tyrion 2
    • Replies: @Prester John
    , @artichoke
  72. Anonymous[968] • Disclaimer says:
    @Gracebear

    Ayers had a lot to do with “Dreams.” David Garrow’s 2017 biography makes clear that two guys helped to write “Dreams” and one of them is Barry’s Harvard Law School friend, Rob Fisher. Being lazy and bit exhausted after his glorious tenure as a student at Harvard, when Obama received a publishing contract to come up with a book about race and American, Barry wanted to simply touch up and publish a manuscript Fisher (and he supposedly) put together called “Transformative Politics” or “Promises of Democracy: Hopeful Critiques of American Ideology.” Fisher told him the published book should be less about policy and more about Barry’s personal history. Hence “Dreams.”

    Two people wrote “Dreams”–Ayers and Rob Fisher.

    Here’s an article from the American Thinker that explains it all pretty well:

    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/05/new_bio_scrambles_to_protect_obamas_literary_rep.html

  73. I have to admit I had a similar feeling once. I journeyed to a foreign country and was really impressed by how clean, organized and functional it was, and most of all by the atmosphere of brotherhood among all the natives, which I soon realized “wasn’t mine” and never could be. The place was Japan.

  74. @JMcG

    Agree. Did the same type of trip myself and, as you say, absorbed it like a sponge.

    Obama is displaying what the Old World called resentiment–not quite the same as resentment.

    Here’s Wiki

    “In philosophy and psychology it is a concept that was of particular interest to the existentialist philosophers. According to the existentialists, ressentiment is a sense of hostility directed at that which one identifies as the cause of one’s frustration, that is, an assignment of blame for one’s frustration. The sense of weakness or inferiority and perhaps jealousy in the face of the “cause” generates a rejecting/justifying value system, or morality, which attacks or denies the perceived source of one’s frustration. This value system is then used as a means of justifying one’s own weaknesses by identifying the source of envy as objectively inferior, serving as a defense mechanism that prevents the resentful individual from addressing and overcoming their insecurities and flaws. The ego creates an enemy in order to insulate itself from culpability.”

    A perfect fit since Obama is of the just-post-Existentialist world. They nailed him and his type as surely as a worm pinned out in one of those biology dissection trays.

  75. @istevefan

    No, but destroying the Libyan state created a direct route from Africa to Europe. Gaddafi knew that without the cooperation of Libya and other mediterrean states, Europe will be inundated by sub-saharan Africans. The mass migration from Africa to Europe in past few years is a gift from Sarkozy.

  76. Dr. X says:
    @Simon in London

    It’s somewhat striking to me that educated Indians don’t feel the same, despite having a fairly impressive civilisation…

    Half of them still defecate in public… not exactly the hallmark of an “impressive” civilization in my book.

  77. JMcG says:
    @Simon in London

    Thanks for your reply; I think I see what you are getting at. The places I’ve travelled aren’t generally frequented by Americans of races other than my own, so yours is a point I hadn’t really seen expressed before.

  78. @Twinkie

    I suppose it’s the stereotypical actress personality. And we turned over the stewardship of the country to that for eight years.

    It turns out “rule by actresses” has been going on for longer than Steve thinks.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/rule-by-actresses/?highlight=%22rule+by+actresses%22

  79. @Anonymous

    James Frey, who wrote A Million Little Pieces, was excoriated for inventing a few characters and exaggerating a few experiences in his drug memoir. I can’t see that he did any more than Obama did in his memoir.

    • Replies: @Joe Walker
  80. @Achilles

    I believe you’re correct. Traveling alone, eating your meals by yourself in restaurants and having no one with whom to share experiences and impressions, can be a depressing experience. It makes you feel very isolated.

    • Replies: @Forbes
  81. @Anonym

    It’s not like the Anglosphere is really less cucked than the Old World.

    With a couple notable exceptions, free speech and unlimited ownership of firearms. We can question the Holocaust but our cousins across the pond would go to jail. We can own fully automatic machine guns, .50 bmg rifles, tannerite, cannons, and silencers (with appropriate tax stamps) as well as all the semi auto small arms we desire.

    You could also distinguish our refusal to grovel before witless queens and princelings, but we grovel before ‘celebrities’ so that’s a distinction without a difference really.

    • Replies: @Anonym
  82. The book’s first few chapters discussed the history of colonialism at some length: the manipulation of tribal hatreds and the caprice of colonial boundaries, the displacements, the detentions, the indignities large and small.

    Progressives tell us that Africa’s problems are due to arbitrary border lines drawn by the colonialists, throwing hostile tribes into the same country. At the same time, Progressives work tirelessly to bring hostile tribes within our own borders, and assure us it will bring about Utopia. If it hasn’t turned out that way in Africa, why should it be any different here?

  83. Yak-15 says:
    @Cowboy Shaw

    Mentioning that the modern leftists are people “who cannot do away with themselves fast enough” hits the nail on the head.

    The most devout leftists are religiously convinced that their existence is an aberration before their Gods and their path to atonement and enlightenment runs through disposition and self-eradication. They must not only discard their economic position, but their homelands and their national identities in order to achieve progressive nirvana.

    It’s fascinating, particularly because they are replacing themselves with tribal people who do not respect the sacrifice of the western progressives. These hermit crab people will never build a monument to the sacrifice of the leftists nor ever acknowledge their struggle. The modern leftist knows this and is fine with this reality. It is because she does not care about the future, only the present and only the strength of her emotions.

    It truly is a death cult with no future. How do we hasten the culmination of their vision?

  84. @Steve Sailer

    It would be an easy matter to put DREAMS and Bill Ayer’s FUGITIVE DAYS through one of those literary algorithm thingies.

    Fun fact: Bill Ayers’ brother John, who went thru a period as “Juan,” working with chulo gang-bangers, is an accomplished practitioner of the fine art of failing upwards.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2014/10/16/oops-never-mind-why-a-major-university-retracted-report-on-charter-schools/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.91885d72f61c

    He is now the head of a national org of charter schools, HQ’d where else, Chicago.

    America is just the greatest country on earth. If you are an Ayers, you can engage in domestic terrorism, fabricate phony reports, and live high on the hog. What’s that about no hereditary privilege?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  85. Corn says:
    @Stephen Paul Foster

    “But then, listen to him speak for five minutes or so: it is obvious that he doesn’t read much and couldn’t write.”

    “Ahhhh, ummm, errr, ah” – Barry without a teleprompter.

    • Replies: @Anonym
  86. Europe is, of course, the world’s greatest tourist attraction. It’s beautiful, charming, and fascinating.

    Unsurprisingly, Donald Trump, who has made a career out of not being ashamed to like nice things, has stated that he wishes Europe to stay much as it is rather than be inundated by hundreds of millions of Third World immigrants. Various respectable spokespeople, such as Heidi Beirich of the SPLC, have been struggling to come up with an explanation of why that is such a horrible thing to say.

    A different President, however, was more in tune with our age’s growing feeling that the existence of Europe is insensitive to many people not of European descent

    This is one of Sailer’s more lucid and perspicacious observations.

    I’m half shocked that Trump said what he said. I know he’s Trump and all, but wow! He is truly the leader of Western Civilization.

    An inspiring two minute version of Trump’s legendary Poland speech: https://youtu.be/A1If7MBOdEE

  87. @Lefty

    So, because a young black man has this feeling that he doesn’t belong in Europe…

    Obama didn’t say that he didn’t feel like he belonged there, just that it wasn’t his.

  88. Yak-15 says:

    How can anyone read these Obama passages and think “what a balanced, down-to-earth guy who can see beyond his own racial animus and help us realize racial healing?”

    Who goes to Europe, or travels anywhere for that matter, and obsesses over the racial contributions of the civilization?

    What a humorless, race-obsessed dork.

  89. @Uilleam Yr Alban

    Eh, some parts of Europe really didn’t send that many people relative to their population. The Balkans didn’t, thought I guess that supports your assertions since they are pretty badass. But compare Norway, which sent half its small population to the US in the late 1800s, to Sweden, a much larger country which sent comparatively fewer people. I’d say Norway has saner policies than Sweden today.

    France also historically had a huge population and didn’t send out that many people aside from the Huguenots who were forced out. Most of the Quebecois and Cajuns are descended from a relatively small group of settlers who had a lot of kids.

    I would say France today might have a little more pride in its culture than say Britain or Germany, but it’s not a huge difference. Italy sent more of its people out and yet is more resistant to neoliberalism and globalism.

  90. @Simon in London

    Educated African-Americans of course tend to be hostile to white Europe and identify with a romantic vision of Africa. Of course educated African-Africans tend to take a dim view of African-Americans and do not have any reciprocal interest; whereas white Europeans find African-Americans fascinating.

    This isn’t accurate.

    I read Trump’s controversial statements on Europe to my educated very black American wife, and she agreed with Trump. More than agree with Trump, she was impressed and proud of Trump, and even laughed because she knows how outrageous and offensive Trump’s comments are to the dominant liberal mindset.

    Also, just like it’s quite common for white people to love other cultures, like lots of white guys are obsessed with Japanese culture for what it is, without any anger or bitterness, but just genuine appreciation, lots of black people enjoy Europe for what it is in the same way. Also, most people are more concerned with their present lives instead of the grand issues of civilizations and issues.

    • Replies: @Simon in London
  91. Joe Walker says: • Website

    It wasn’t that Europe wasn’t beautiful; everything was just as I’d imagined it. It just wasn’t mine.

    I wish that all the Third Worlders trying to get into Europe would realize that Europe isn’t theirs and they have no right to live there.

  92. Joe Walker says: • Website
    @Harry Baldwin

    James Frey was white which meant that everything he did was pure concentrated evil.

  93. @Twinkie

    Obama struck me as a very defective personality – one who seemed to betray negative emotions about the very people who raised him (to success) all the while seeking the adulations of the masses of strangers and evincing an unearned sense of superiority [...]

    People like that are a dime a dozen. It is unfortunately the case that in the lives of the majority of individuals, ego, passion, and avarice rule all, and what we call virtue (or even just basic decency) is a rare exception rather than the rule. It’s a common enough insult to say of some person, “That guy would sell his own mother.” But as Carlito Brigante helpfully reminds us, “Most people would.”

    This fact is not taken to heart nearly as often as it should be. The ego-driven are oblivious to the existence of other egos, and the few decent people block out awareness of reality so as to stay sane. But if folks would only grok just how many of those around them harbor sociopathic tendencies, they’d be afraid to step out their front door in the morning.

  94. @Bardon Kaldian

    Obama was just being sincere.

    Thank God somebody said that. It’s really the whole substance of the matter (and the rest of your post was nicely done, too).

    Of course Europe isn’t yours, Obama. You and your kind don’t belong there and everybody knows it.

  95. JEG says:
    @Peter Johnson

    I agree with you, but the problem is how to move from the situation we have currently have (in which anyone who publicly mentions genetic differences is immediately denounced as a racist) to a situation in which society can learn to deal with scientific results and inevitably disparate outcomes.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  96. Polynices says:

    Obama is precisely as European as he is African. So dopey that he thinks Europe somehow isn’t his while Africa is.

    • Replies: @Massimo Heitor
  97. @Simon in London

    notably their assumption that the rest of the world is basically just like America

    And that wherever it’s not like America, it should become more like America.

    We also have an inflated idea about the intelligence and sophistication of Brits, which comes from having experienced a very unrepresentative sample of them.

  98. Obama has always struck me as a person who has never been entirely comfortable in his mocha skin. An authentic “African”-American born in (we assume) Hawaii of a Kenyan father, his mother was European Caucasian (albeit herself of mixed Celtic-Teutonic ancestry), One wonders if he has ever resolved in his own mind exactly who he is.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  99. @Arclight

    Culturally he is most certainly not “African-American” though he is one by birth on his father’s side.. To that extent he is more “African” than, say, Genius T-N Coates. I just wonder though whether this guy has ever gotten straight in his mind exactly who he is and how he fits into the cake mix. He just strikes me as a man at war with himself.

  100. @Dave Pinsen

    “Maybe if he remembered he was half-European by ancestry…”

    No one knows who this guy’s Daddy was, he himself doesn’t know, so that is the end of this line of speculation.

    On matters of race, the stuff written by Malcolm X, Baldwin, and Fanon (from an anti-imperialist perspective) bring out the good, the bad, and the ugly with intellectual cogency, real passion, and basic humanity. By contrast, Obama, both the man and the stuff he wrote (or babbled through ghost writers), was pure fraud. The man was neither black nor white, neither this nor that; he was simply empty merchandise packaged and sold in accordance with demand and supply.

    The man was in love with himself and seemed to think that every idea rattling inside his head was worth recording for posterity, including the rattles inside his head on an airplane ride. It was just a goddamned plane ride, and these were just the inner babblings of a self-fixated man: why have these been elevated to a level warranting analysis and thought?

    Visit your local institution – correctional or psychiatric – and you will find babblings of more real passion, more cogency, and perhaps better prose.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  101. Dmitry says:
    @Anonymous

    I think he is just trying to artificially add to his uninteresting time as a tourist, an uninteresting narrative or drama that links it to the rest of his book and his political activism. Actually, he has new nothing to say and shows an unusually empty mind, that can only repeat American cliches.

    The impression from text, is that he has the same cartoon view of the world (whether Africa or Europe), as the worst American tourists.

    The text written in cliches – e.g. “tea by the Thames”

    “Plaza Mejor at high noon, with its De Chirico shadows”

    (Copy pasted phrases from some idiotic guidebook).

    Like his travelling skills are as incompetent and unoriginal, and boring, as everything else in his career.

    • Replies: @Anon
  102. @Reg Cæsar

    “And donor pool”–which is reputedly heavily ((( )))

  103. @Simon in London

    Yes, Chinese and Japanese seem to take an uncomplicated enjoyment in the glories of Old Europe…It’s somewhat striking to me that educated Indians don’t feel the same

    You see this in how they educate their kids, at least here in California. Chinese kids get pushed to study our classical music (and always, as “Tiger Mom” Amy Chua wrote, violin and piano). Indian kids much much less.

    Check out this group picture of one of the finest youth symphonies in the USA. It’s based in the Silicon Valley area, which has a huge Indian population:See? 90% East Asian, next to no Indians. (But look up some other index of high-achieving kids, for example the list of National Merit Finalists from schools in this area and you’ll see a closer to 50-50 Chinese-Indian ratio.)

  104. ” It just wasn’t mine. ”
    Sounds like Tony Soprano about to dispatch some poor sucker to that great strip club in the sky.

  105. @Wick

    Yes, New Zealand is suffering from a particularly nasty, moronic, but loud cabal of leftists coagulating in the near western suburbs of Auckland, but the heartlands remain a fount of good common sense. The current remarkably dim pm hails from that Auckland community however and that’s sure to be a source of dark entertainment to come.

    • Replies: @Wick
  106. Bugg says:

    Obama is such a prissy whiny preening douchebag. It’s all about him-me, ME, ME, I, I, I, 24/7. But for all his supposed anger there wasn’t a chance in hell he would get out of his seat and slug the Brit. Ask him out, though…

  107. sayless says:
    @Lefty

    “because a young black man…” .

    No, not every or any one young black man, but this one, yes. “I’m going to fundamentally change this country.”

    Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing.

    We’ve had years listening to him and watching him, I can imagine his jealousy about Europe and resentment over Africa might well coalesce into hatred for Europe. If I can’t have it no one will. His envy is coming off that passage in clouds.

    He’s had a narcissistic injury, and narcissists don’t like that very much.

  108. @International Jew

    There’s a very big vicious strain of socialism coursing through the middle classes of Britain. It takes various forms, but if you watch the comedy of Stewart Lee you can see it at its most pure. Frankie Boyle is the Scottish version. Extremely unpleasant people fuming with hate who absolve their sins by virtue signalling.

  109. @Harry Baldwin

    A deep paradox that our mortal minds may never fully master, Grasshopper. It’s related to another paradox: that it’s harmful for blacks to live only among themselves, but somehow dispersing them into white neighborhoods is beneficial to the whites there.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  110. BB753 says:
    @Achilles

    In my youth, there were plenty of young gays traveling alone all over Europe looking for adventure. I know because I’ve done a lot traveling on my own, all over Europe, mostly in youth hostels. To be frank, I didn’t mind it that much. It was easy to make friends in those places, and I’m a bit of a loner anyway. Always have been.
    Of all cities, Amsterdam seemed to be a magnet for gay “travelers”. Some of them checked out of the hostels as soon as they met some guy or guys who would provide them with a roof, drugs and sex.
    Not that I’m implying that either Obama was either gay or a loner. He’s a weird dude.

  111. artichoke says:
    @Anonymous

    “it wasn’t mine” is an argument against racial integration, and he didn’t want to leave that in.

  112. artichoke says:
    @Arclight

    He claims to be racially black, which I am not so sure of either. But his cultural feelings can’t be expected to affect how people who don’t know him well treat him. All this discussion is over-sensitive. Who freakin’ cares!?

  113. sayless says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Hey, Steve, we don’t know if he studied art history in college. His applications and transcripts he ordered sealed. And no one remembers him. I wish Trump would unseal them.

  114. @International Jew

    Chinese kids get pushed to study our classical music

    Dead white males kept relevant by pubescent yellow females.

  115. @International Jew

    It’s related to another paradox: that it’s harmful for blacks to live only among themselves, but somehow dispersing them into white neighborhoods is beneficial to the whites there

    That’s not so paradoxical when you live in a place like Chappaqua and your colored neighbor is the latest version of Harry Belafonte.

  116. @Simon in London

    “Educated African-Americans of course tend to be hostile to white Europe and identify with a romantic vision of Africa.”

    Done any research on that?

    I know several youngish black Americans. They all visit Europe on their vacations and love it. The latest raves I heard were about Italy and Copenhagen.

  117. How could he really forget?

    Deracination never really leaves the Euro behind, whatever it purports to do.

    The Euro resentment is strongest in those resisting the deracination the ruling class requires for membership.

  118. @Uilleam Yr Alban

    Between 1620 and 1920, Europe sent almost every (non-aristocratic) person of great ambition abroad

    And a few aristocratic ones, as well. Nineteenth-century explorers like Sir Samuel Baker, Sir Richard Burton, Roualeyn Gordon-Cumming, and Frederick Selous were often sons of landed families.

    There was even a vogue for the American West among European aristos. Medora, North Dakota, was founded by the Marquis de Morès and named after his wife. The grandfather of Senator Malcolm Wallop of Wyoming, Oliver Henry Wallop, emigrated to Wyoming from Britain in the late 19th century and settled in the Big Horn area. He subsequently inherited the Earldom of Portsmouth and thus became the only person to have served both in the Wyoming state legislature and the British House of Lords. There was, for a time, the theoretical possibility that his grandson Malcolm might become the only person to be both a United States Senator and a British lord.

  119. @Stephen Paul Foster

    It will be interesting to see how Obama gets his Memoirs into print. He is getting 40 or 50 million for them, I think. Since it is highly unlikely that he wrote “Dreams” at the very least without a great deal of assistance he is going to need a ghost writer

    Bill Ayers is still available.

  120. @Twinkie

    Obama struck me as a very defective personality – one who seemed to betray negative emotions about the very people who raised him (to success) all the while seeking the adulations of the masses of strangers and evincing an unearned sense of superiority (Michelle Obama: “Sometimes I have to remind him that he too is a mere mortal”).

    Michelle’s underlying assumption is that Obama’s a Roman emperor who needs periodic bringing down to earth. She definitely doesn’t have low self-esteem. In general, the problem with blacks is excessive self-esteem paired with the reality of low achievement, leading to anger about the bad people who must be holding them down. This combo is present among all races to some extent, but most prevalent and intense among blacks.

    • Replies: @Aldoso
  121. Russ says:
    @Cowboy Shaw

    It’s a mystery. So mysterious as to cause one to wonder about birth control pills and the water supply, since it’s certainly not constrained by borders.

  122. @Twinkie

    Whites and NE Asians strike me as a good example of convergent evolution. While they are more distantly related than whites and, say, south Asians, their values and behavior seem more similar. Except for posturing ethno masochists, the only non western cultural items that whites show any serious interest in are East Asian. For example Sun Tzu.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  123. Fin-shaped nose

    Wasn’t it his spiritual adviser and close personal friend who referred to Italians as having “big garlic noses”?

  124. @Anne Lid

    You have to possess a certain amount of intelligence yourself to recognize good ideas and values generated by other people.

  125. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Twinkie

    The grandparents who raised him raised both their daughter and her son Barack to be what they became, hard core anti American anti White liberals.

    Grampy Grammy and Mommy were all hard core commies radicals and anti White racists

    Obama didn’t get radicalized at college. He was radicalized from birth. His conception was a radical act by a pair of 1930’s commies shoving their red diaper daughter into the bed of the first black they could snag.

    Discover the Networks is an excellent site to trace the generations of traitors.

  126. @Anonymous

    ” Are definitely on average more physically fit” : Germans. totally off base : Today Germany looks like the US = Tremendously obese, and young sickly folks everywhere, legions of people in their prime of life pushing walkers, and the hospital waiting rooms overflowing with perfect examples of the opposite of what you are claiming.

    The know-it-all German “Besserwisser” for eons, employed the the obese Americans as examples of American “capitalistic, reactionary” decadence, today they never allude to the situation of obesity in the US, as they are in the same boat.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro jazz artist.

  127. Pat Boyle says:
    @International Jew

    I wonder if there is some yet to be discovered neural explanation for this. That is to say do the East Asians simply have more musical brains?

    As I remember (and am too lazy to look up) musical ability seems focused in one of the parietals. Lynn and Vanhaten found the highest IQ nation was South Korea. Add to that the fact that the best ‘Italian Tenors’ (operatic tenors) are Koreans and you start to wonder about their brain structure.

    If you doubt the tenor remark look up Rudy Park on YouTube.

    Black music always seems to be small scale (eg “Jazz Trio”) or simplistic (eg Belafonte calypso). People expect to have to study to appreciate Bach. It took me years to grok late Strauss (Die Frau Ohne Shatten) or Hindemith (Cardillac). I never could quite grasp the late Beethoven quartets.

    At least one reason so few blacks like serious music and so many Asians do, is likely just sheer brain power.

  128. Kylie says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Lol! Reg Caesar, you are a gem.

  129. Jack D says:
    @Uilleam Yr Alban

    The people that Europe exported were not so much the badasses as the desperately poor.

    OTOH, 2 world wars really did decimate the badass population. When future historians mark the high water mark of European civilization it will be in 1914 – after that it’s just one bad thing after another.

  130. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Nigerian Nationalist

    East and Central Asians have history, monuments, architecture and culture equal to Europe.

    They are familiar with and proud of their own history and monuments and appreciate Europe’s.

  131. Tiny Duck says:

    This is why we NEED diversity

    People of Color feel uncomfortable around too many whites

    Also white girls lust after Men of Color

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
  132. @Stephen Paul Foster

    ” Touted himself as a “Constitutional Law Scholar”.

    Amazing isn’t for a guy with, given the benefit of doubt, perhaps an IQ of 95.
    The insane Germans have declared him to be the most intelligent human to have ever been born upon planet mirth, and to this day I am still waiting for him to utter just one remark constituting an example of a superior intellect.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US army vet, and pro jazz artist.

  133. Jack D says:
    @Sean

    If a white politician wrote a memoir in which he commented on the broad flat nose of the African sitting in the next seat or the big hook nose of a Jewish passenger it would be racist.

    Obama’s nose, BTW, looks nothing like his father’s but a lot like Frank Davis’s:

  134. @Bardon Kaldian

    ” East Asians are fascinated by European and American high culture”

    Blacks did in fact have their own version of “High culture” incorporated within their creation of Jazz music, which they, sadly, sacrificed, and along with it their most prominent source of pride and ethnic distinction, which they sacrificed upon the altar of trendiness, namely the altar of “Rap” anti-music.

    Wynton Marsalis, black Jazz star, remarked that it breaks his heart to look out over an audience and see only white faces, and yes Charlie Parker’s solo excursions were very bit as high a musical niveau as Bach’s magnificent creations.

    I firmly believe that a large element of the disintegration of black community can be traced to the loss of their relationship to their own music = Jazz.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro Jazz artist.

    • Agree: Dmitry
    • Replies: @Dmitry
    , @Daniel Chieh
  135. @Nigerian Nationalist

    What I’m reading here is no different from what a poorer American, Japanese or Chinese or even me might feel when confronted with the wealth and privilege of Europe–competition born out of envy.

    ANECDOTE WARNING:

    When I went to The Hague with an Indonesian client, he expressed great admiration for European accomplishments. So not everyone feels as you predict.

  136. @Pat Boyle

    ” At least one reason so few blacks like serious music”

    Bullshit: The music of one Charlie Parker, or one Miles Davis, or Charles Mingus, or Wes Montgomery is every bit as “Serious” as the creations of one JS Bach, or WA Mozart.

    Myself a jazz performer with fifty-plus years on the bandstand, did in fact study “classical” music in conservatory, namely classical flute performance, and I know what I am talking about.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualifed since 1973, airborne trained US arym vet, and pro jazz artist.

  137. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Cowboy Shaw

    He probably had a good ol time like every other traveling American kid.

    15, 20 years later he brooded and suffered because he’s black and doesn’t look anything like his putative Father Obama sr.

  138. Righty says:
    @Ed

    You mean like Ponnuru at National Review? Raj Shah at the WhiteHouse? Nikki Haley at the UN? Booby Jiandani from Louisiana? Seems Verma at CMS? Dinesh D’Souza?

    • Replies: @Ed
  139. Svigor says:
    @Twinkie

    Or maybe you should up your reading comprehension, Twi-hard? Blacks are “other race,” you know.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  140. Jack D says:
    @Anonymous

    If by “old songs” you mean the Horst Wessel Lied, I doubt it. Just as further to the east, Soviet occupation put the E. Germans 50 years behind on their education in cultural Marxism – they were too busy being educated in the real thing (and that “education” taught them to hate any variety of Marxism). But for the most part they are a minority and the average Frankfurter today is just as liberal as their counterparts in London, Paris, NY, etc.

    But, the German diet is somewhat better than ours, and they are definitely on average more physically fit. There are still more Germans who embody virtus in the old Roman sense

    Here is Exhibit “A” to the contrary:

    • Replies: @Flip
  141. Anon[298] • Disclaimer says:
    @Stebbing Heuer

    A typo or mishearing for “Plaza Mayor”? “Plaza Mejor” is literally “Best Plaza”, which is just waiting to be memed.

    It is also one of the many places that de Chirico never drew as far as I know, but it looks sort of Renaissance/Baroque which is probably what made Ayers or Obama, whichever, think of de Chirico. It’s a weird association (the first thing you think of is a Modernist painter? Really?) and probably not made while actually there.

    • Replies: @Anon
  142. Tyrion 2 says: • Website
    @International Jew

    We also have an inflated idea about the intelligence and sophistication of Brits, which comes from having experienced a very unrepresentative sample of them.

    In Bali the taxi driver asked me why Australians were such drunken louts and Brits were so perfectly cultured and well-mannered.

    I’m sure Australians get asked the same question but the other way around in Spain.

    • Replies: @Flip
    , @Cowboy Shaw
  143. Anon[298] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    D–n edit window; I should add that the “plaza mayor” is a non-specific term for the main square of a city, it’s just that Madrid has the most famous one, or possibly even el mejor plaza mayor, if I do say so myself.

  144. Thud says:
    @Uilleam Yr Alban

    I thought the failures left? everybody else thrived.

  145. BuddyJoe says:

    Certainly Europe is not Obama’s, neither is Africa. Obama has ancestry from both continents and is naturalized American. It’s just that he hates America and his white ancestors, even those who raised, nurtured, and cared for him. He is a bonafide mulatto, black identifying racist to the very core.

  146. Orangeman says:

    “Going to Johannesburg I am.”
    Cockneys supposedly talked like that. The last time they supposedly spoke like that they couldn’t afford transcontinental plane tickets. May have even pre dated human flight. If at all.

  147. @Twinkie

    I don’t think it makes people of, say, East Asian ancestry feel bad about their ancestry to visit Europe and marvel at the beauty of its churches and civilizational glory…

    That anti-European sentiment is mostly a black thing or, more accurately, jealousies of those ethno-national groups that are drenched with anti-(European) colonial ideologies (news flash to them: that’s been over for a long time).

    Twinkie i think you’re right–though this isn’t a “black thing”. However, in fairness to Steve, East Asians are simply irrelevant in the context of the struggle in Europe.

    From far across the pond, as far i can tell the groups in play:
    – Good whites hooked into establishment gov/finance/biz or their clueless hangers on–”refugees welcome” girls–who have absorbed the narrative
    – Normies relentlessly propagandized that it’s all going to be great and hoping (or too stupid to know better) that things will “work out”
    – Bad whites, who think it sucks and want their nations back
    – Osten whites, who create some dislocation and resentments in the West, but–my impression–when integrated and voting tend to be bad whites
    – Blacks, diversity inc’s. foot soldiers; basically there because the fruit is juicier, cause white guys throw better nation (or cultivate a better orchard to keep the analogy limping along); with a few professional cranks to get all ABW, ABM when anyone suggests blacks don’t actually make anything better
    – Muzzies, again there for the juicier fruit but also to with a hostile ideology of taking turf from their historical nemesis–the West.
    – Indians (mostly just in Britain), far superior to muzzies and blacks, but unfortunately all too ready to push the “colonialism” grievance\entitlement line
    and of course
    – Jews–though smaller in number and influence than in the US–with their ethnic resentments, media and academic presence and endless verbiage; (Unlike the US though there seem to be more–esp. in France?–doing a bit of rethink on the wisdom destroying Europe via muzzies).

    East Asians and our American-style “Latinos” are a non-factor in the picture.

  148. Jack D says:
    @International Jew

    Looks more like 95% than 90. Also, where is Affirmative Action? Where are all the blacks and Hispanics? If this group was 95% white instead of 95% Asian, I don’t think they could get away with it in today’s environment. NAMs are obviously not lacking in musical talent (look at the pop charts) so it is a matter of interest – where is the “outreach” to these communities?

    You also see this in names – S. Asians usually give their kid S. Asian names but E. Asians give their kids English names (they still have Asian names these are used only within the family). Maybe a couple of centuries of British occupation made S. Asians a little more allergic to Western culture. S. Asians have also held onto their native religions more than E. Asians.

    • Replies: @International Jew
  149. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    Thanks for posting the picture. Knowing what I know about red diaper babies and their parents I’ve always thought the Dunham’s shoved their daughter into the bed of their best friend Frank Davis as soon as she turned 18.

    They got what they wanted. Because Davis was married to a wealthy radical chic White woman, he couldn’t marry Anne. It was just as well as being abandoned by an exotic African gave her son the high status of being the child of a poor single Mother.

    The racism and sheer hatred of Dreams of my Father was obvious. Everybody else I knew who read the book thought it was just wonderful. Gag

  150. Lefty says:
    @Steve Sailer

    I understand that’s your position, and lefty though I may be (especially while among the isteve crowd), I’m with you all about the danger to Europe of too much immigration. I suppose that makes me a heretic within my own tribe. :) I just don’t see how that passage in his book is particularly illustrative of much of anything, other than describing how a young black man felt a sense of alienation from white culture, which to me is perfectly natural.

  151. Jack D says:
    @Stebbing Heuer

    I assume he meant the Plaza Mayor of Madrid. An understandable mistake for someone half-educated like Obama but one that should have been picked up in copy editing.

    “Mejor” actually comes to Spanish from the Latin “melior” (better) as in the English ameliorate (make better) whereas mayor comes from the Latin meior (greater or larger).

    • Replies: @Anon
  152. Jack D says:
    @Flip

    He supposedly wrote the rest of the book too, not just that one passage.

    Obama is not a dumb man. He realizes that while Europe is not really “his”, neither is Africa, the fantasy notwithstanding. He is a mischlinge and will never be fully at home anywhere. His embrace of “African-American” culture (a culture that he had ZERO connections to except for skin color) was done purely out of political convenience and was available to him purely by luck. If he had been 1/2 Indonesian like his half siblings, he would have had to find some other shtick.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
  153. Lefty says:
    @Lurker

    Oh come on, now you’re trying to prove a negative.

    • Replies: @Allan
  154. @Jack D

    I’m someone who thinks this theory is not implausible–Stanley Ann babysat for the Davis family and Frank Marshall Davis was a player. Since she was knocked up at 17, the “babysitter” scenario with Barack Obama supplying legitimizing cover in exchange for green card is not ridiculous.

    Obama Jr’s closer facial relationship to Davis though isn’t as determinative as it looks. His ugly and thin, angular faced mom, would mesh with Obama’s to give you … ??? … hard to say, but something like Obama’s is not ridiculous.

    On the plus side for this theory:
    – Obama Sr. never showed *any* interest in Jr. that’s really the big one. But then he’s an African, not a white man.
    – Stanley Dunham had Barack meet up with Davis repeatedly. This could have been simply giving his grandson some black male “how to be a black man” coaching, or to let them father-son bond.

    On the minus side:
    – Obama actually went to Kenya. Why if he knew he was FMD’s kid? Just “Africa”? Could be, but why bother.

    Now it’s true that Obama has never shown any interest in his supposed Kenyan relatives … but then we’re talking about Barack Obama here, who has never shown any interest in anyone other than Barack Obama.

    If there’s any “woke” guy out there who is at a party with Sasha or Malia, please use some ruse–”let me get you a refill”, “you should try the punch”, etc.–to grab their drink cup. Get it in a ziplock bag and let’s get the DNA tested.

    Overall, i’d say this one is up in the air–kind of like 2016 election. Wouldn’t really want to bet either way. If I had to, my heart goes with Davis, but my wallet would chose the official narrative–unless I get odds.

    ~~

    This is in contrast with the case of Clinton, where i think the evidence definitely leans–call it 75%–that Clinton is the son of Hot Springs doc Virginia Cassidy was helping. That doc invited Clinton to summer with his family repeatedly. And Clinton has never shown a lick of interest in his nominal Blythe half siblings–very ordinary people–and looks like some of the docs’ kids–who are overall are a smart and successful lot. The “nature” bet is on the doc.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    , @Clyde
  155. @Pat Boyle

    I think there probably is a neurological explanation for east asian predilection for classical music but IQ is probably not the explanation.

    I am Indian, and I and many other Indian kids took western classical instruments as children, but I never met an Indian kid that was any good at it. None of us had that kind of precision in our musical capabilities. East Asian kids have great interest in repetition and practicing and mastering something concrete, but traditional Indian music is far more like traditional African music than western classical. Indian music is improvisational, beat driven and uses complex harmonic scales (full of “color tones” as in jazz music). I have known a great many Indian kids that used the basics they learned from classical instruments to be pretty good at various kinds of improvisational music. Some do jazz, some sing in club bands etc. But personally Ive never seen an Indian kid become really good at classical music. You only see the talent when they have to harmonize on their own.

    East Asians are great at mastering a classical work that someone else wrote, and many become great players, but somehow there are practically none with any great musical creativity. To this day, composers that use classical techniques are basically all white men. Soundtrack composition and some pop ballad composition is basically similar to classical music, but I don’t know of any great Asian sound track composers even in a country where most of the people seriously learning to play classical music are asian.

    Blacks are good with improvisation, expressive singing and often good with writing lead melodies. These days, a lot of mainstream music has a lead melody written by a black person and 90% of the instrumental tracks done by white guys.

    But I dont think any of this is related to IQ for two reasons- one is that if musical ability were related to IQ, then those with higher IQs would be better on average at everything. But they are not. Asians are the worst at expressive singing. There have been zero famous east Asian singers in the last century. But there are so many blacks. The other is that even if classical music were related to IQ, then one would expect east asians to be better at composing and orchestrating. Orchestrating doesn’t even require coming up with a melody- you only have to write parts for instruments on an existing melody. Yet, the great composers and orchestrators are all white guys.

    So, I think it’s just that asians are better at precision and mimicry, which is why they play classical well but cannot compose. And blacks are best at improvising on the spot. Whites are best at getting dozens of instruments to sound coherent together.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  156. @istevefan

    But guess what will guarantee it?

    Should’a left the plug alone. I’ll admit to schadenfreude as their political consensus collapses.

  157. eah says:
  158. @Coag

    Qualities are not buildings nor the place. They admire it and seek to take it back home and build it…”there”.

    Which is what I got from B.O’s statement. Which he sought of did, became President and Deporter in Chief.

  159. @Simon in London

    “It’s somewhat striking to me that educated Indians don’t feel the same, despite having a fairly impressive civilisation”

    They typically don’t care, but I dont know how much of that is driven by resentment because I’ve seen them care just as little about civilizations they would have no reason to envy.

    I’ve gone with my extended family to see Inca ruins, mayan ruins and north american pre-Columbian art and they express no interest. They just say “we have old temples in India.”

    I’ve seen my relatives look at blacks breakdancing on the streets and roll they eyes and say “we have dancers on the street in India.”

    I kind of think it comes from being pressured from birth to avoid people outside one’s caste. All their lives, they avoid eating anyone else’s food, they avoid their dance performances etc. They get themselves in this frame of mind where they walk past the vast majority of people’s art and culture within their own society just because they are not of the right caste. And then they take that insular mentality to other civilizations. But that’s changing now with social media.

  160. @Twinkie

    Such admiration that they conquered their Asian empire?

    You forget, the modern Japanese are a conquered people. The Chinese might admire Western companies and culture but they want to own them not vice versa.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
  161. @Dave Pinsen

    I believe that’s what I meant by “competition born by envy” (:

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
  162. Rob McX says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    I’d say a lot of money that goes to the SPLC comes from Jewish sources. Possibly there are a few Hollywood moguls pitching in a few million at a time. It had around half a billion in its coffers at last count.

  163. @Jack D

    If he had been 1/2 Indonesian like his half siblings, he would have had to find some other shtick.

    And no one would ever have heard of him. He’d be an adjunct professor somewhere, teaching on contract. Or–if he had his ducks in a row–at a public high school, with a decent pension coming his way in a few years. (On the other hand his wife would probably be more pleasant.)

  164. MBlanc46 says:
    @Gracebear

    I thought the same thing. While it’s not impossible that he might have come across the name somewhere, or even seen the paintings in the Art Institute of Chicago, Obama doesn’t seem like the kind of guy to have any interest in early 20th century avant garde painters.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  165. @Pat Boyle

    My 11-month-old twins are utterly transfixed by Beethoven and Mozart. There are a line on infant videos (Little Einstein) built on that phenomenon.

  166. @Ed

    He did…right into the Presidency.

    My point was that what he felt in that moment–per my reading– was not Europe as a personal affront but Europe as impersonal to him.

    I do see the point of the critiques though, I should not have personalised the term…I meant a poorer Japanese back when Japan was poor or China.

    They saw qualities yes, but not in the passive way some Africans do–snapping up houses on Mayfair for example, but rather qualities spurring them to do better.

    My point, that competition was born out of the moment they compared what Europe had with what they had and found it wanting.

  167. Forbes says:
    @Gracebear

    Seems to me the reference to De Chirico is gratuitous–what shadows exist at high noon? None.

    Madrid’s “Plaza Major” is spelled Plaza Mayor in English, just as the Jardin du Luxembourg (Paris) is Luxembourg Gardens. The Gardens have apple and pear trees, and is known for its statuary and a Medici fountain, not chestnut groves–there are none.

    These details are a try-too-hard snobbery, pretending to be cultured.

    The whole outtake reads as ghost-written reeking of a community college-level creative writing style.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
  168. @MBlanc46

    Meh, it’s the same circle interested in Reinhold Niebuhr, with whom Obama was famously conversant.

  169. notanon says:
    @Nigerian Nationalist

    I will remind you that it was Europeans who pushed both for Gaddafi and Assad’s ousting, not President Obama. Lezz zem eat cake, I say!

    the banking mafia used Euro leaders as the front men for those attacks cos Americans were fed up of neocon wars after Iraq

  170. CJ says:
    @Anonymous

    It’s a work of fiction …

    As V.S. Naipaul wrote, “Fiction never lies. It reveals the author totally.”

  171. Rob McX says:
    @Anonym

    I wonder what would have happened if it were Cosby that got elected. Would the powers that be have managed to silence or buy off his accusers? If it were pre-1994 OJ, he’d probably have been a success from his supporters’ viewpoint, and the murders would never have taken place. I can’t imagine a POTUS taking a break from presidential duties to off his wife and her lover, not with Secret Service personnel following his every step.

    • Replies: @Anonym
  172. @Jack D

    I said 90% because I see a fair number of whites in the back. Those are probably the brass and percussion sections.

  173. Anon[298] • Disclaimer says:
    @istevefan

    I imagine you killed off a lot of your badasses in WW1 and WW2.

    What about the Thirty Years’ War?

  174. Rob McX says:
    @AnotherDad

    If there’s any “woke” guy out there who is at a party with Sasha or Malia, please use some ruse–”let me get you a refill”, “you should try the punch”, etc.–to grab their drink cup. Get it in a ziplock bag and let’s get the DNA tested.

    You’d need a sample from the Davis side or Obama’s relatives to compare, unless there’s enough difference between Kenyan DNA and that of American blacks to settle the matter.

  175. MBlanc46 says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Not terribly obscure to anyone who’s taken an art history course or a serious tour of a major art museum, but nevertheless not someone who would likely come to mind in describing a street scene even to those who had done those things. I’ve got a more than passing interest in early 20th century modernism, and de Chirico is something of a favorite of mine (before we got our family room wall clock repaired, I had it set permanently to 1:28 in reference to a de Chirico painting), and such a comparison wouldn’t have come to me.

  176. MBlanc46 says:
    @Jack D

    They all look alike to me.

  177. Anon[298] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    mayor comes from the Latin meior (greater or larger).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muphry%27s_law

    You mean “maior” (=”major”).

  178. @JMcG

    The Falklands War horrified Britain’s Liberal-Left; hence all the hysteria about our sinking the Belgrano. Something the Fascist Argentines took in good spirit.

  179. Rob McX says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    Progressives tell us that Africa’s problems are due to arbitrary border lines drawn by the colonialists, throwing hostile tribes into the same country.

    It’s true that the borders left behind by the colonial powers when they left didn’t suit the majority of the natives. But for the Africans who agitated for independence and looked forward to being the new rulers, it was just fine. They inherited bigger territories to rule, with at least the remnants of an administrative infrastructure that allowed them to collect revenue and line their own pockets on a scale they could never have hoped for as mere tribal leaders.

  180. @AnotherDad

    Unlike the US though there seem to be more–esp. in France?–doing a bit of rethink on the wisdom destroying Europe via muzzies

    Most French Jews originate in North Africa, and arrived in France during the 1950s-60s decolonization, when North African countries came under the control of their majority Muslim populations. These French Jews are about as sentimental about Muslims as Cuban-Americans are sentimental about Communism.

  181. Lefty says:
    @Ed

    Keep in mind that much of Haiti’s problems stem from a lack of arable land. There are simply too many people for the carrying capacity of that half of the island. It’s a true shithole and likely to get worse.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  182. Flip says:
    @Jack D

    English, German/Scottish, German/Polish. They look very racially similar.

  183. Flip says:
    @Tyrion 2

    What do they say about Americans?

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  184. Forbes says:
    @Ed

    The downside of black identity, racial pride, black pride is that there’s paucity of which to be proud. It’s all attitude. It reveals the falsity of the self-esteem movement–the promotion/encouragement of self-esteem in school and the culture at-large. Without accomplishment, excellence, achievement, it’s worthless as narcissism and egotistical arrogance.

    Why wouldn’t resentment, even anger be the result?

    • Replies: @Flip
  185. eah says:

    A new/novel use for flatware.

  186. Forbes says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    And Obama speaks no foreign languages–so he was further isolated in his European travel.

    Today, you can travel around Europe speaking only English–but not in the ’80s. (At least that’s been my experience–I found the change from the late ’80s to the late ’00s to be remarkable.)

    • Replies: @Jake Barnes
  187. More and more one sees Obama as pretty much centered around Obama. The reason he is callow and irrelevant.

  188. @Tyrion 2

    I was in Pamplona a couple of years ago and hundreds of young Australians were passed out drunk by mid afternoon on the first day. They didn’t pace themselves well.

  189. Anon[333] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lefty

    Actually what Obama felt is that he wanted all third worlders to have what the first world had, but the only way Obama knew how to achieve that was to make third worlders move to the first world. By the time Obama had reached middle age, he knew creating the first world in the third world was hopeless with native third world leadership.

    Obama’s immigration policy, like that of all SJWers, is the policy of leftist despair. They all know in their heart of hearts that after spending 70 years trying to uplift the third world, that it’s just not possible. Third world countries are too far gone into failure mode, and have too many stupid and corrupt people inside them and running them.

    The only way to fix that is ‘Leftist Colonialism,’ which is a political concept everyone ought to be aware of. The way an SJW envisions it, you make all the third world people move to the first world, where they will be governed by an enlightened layer of white leftwing politicians, with tokens from the black and brown wings of the Grand Leftist Party.

    All the jobs, infrastructure, and welfare will be already in place and waiting for them, all paid for by those rich millionaires and billionaires through high taxes, because leftists can’t do math and think money grows on trees, and they have decided to kick aside the environmental notion of overstraining resources because it’s gotten in the way of themselves getting their hands on money. Hillary Clinton and her white leftist ilk almost never work honest jobs, so they have no idea how hard it is to make money the regular way.

    Clinton has earned most of her money through shakedowns, perks of her husband’s position, and donations. The entire left has a LOT of people who think they should be given money just for existing.

    Why? Because other people are dumb enough to pay them.

    They get it from welfare, scholarships, union donation shakedowns, and made-for-outraged leftwing jobs, such as diversity consultant at a university, and there’s a whole tier of white, black, and brown leftist leadership who think this is normal and assume all their kind can easily do it. In fact, most of them ARE doing it it one way or another, from a dumb ghetto black on welfare, to the welfare donation queen herself, Hillary Clinton.

    The reason all these white leftists, blacks, and browns feel utter contempt for the white working class is because the latter is DUMB ENOUGH TO ALLOW THEMSELVES TO BE PLUCKED. These leftwing elitists feel contempt for the retarded sucker and the patsy who lets this happen, because that’s what entitled narcissists always feel about their enablers.

    The only way our country is going back to normal is by cutting off these parasites and getting rid of them.

    The shakedown has a remarkable resemblance to the way the corrupt medieval church of Europe used to operate. Pay money to the church and get absolution for your sins. Now you just pay money to the leftist ‘church’ and its leaders and causes, and you get absolution for your political sins, racism, and other crimethink. In both cases, the method of plucking the stupid goose was guilt. If you can be made to feel guilty, you can be conned into giving money to anything.

    • Agree: jim jones
    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
  190. JSM says:
    @Jack D

    The most telling facial similarities, imo, between B.O. Jr. and F.M. Davis is the upper lip. Look at the “two pointy areas,” the so-called Cupid’s bow, of the men’s upper lip.

    Note how wide the philtrum is in B. Obama Sr. Compare the narrow philtrums shared by B. Obama Jr. and F.M. Davis. Note the very sharp “two pointy areas” “Cupid’s bow” of the upper lip that BO Jr. and FM Davis share. They form a narrow “V” shape, whereas BO Sr.’s is very wide and shallow, more of a flattened U shape…. Note the prominent ridge where the two sides of the upper lip join at the center that BO Jr. and FM Davis share. BO Sr. has no central ridge at all.

    BO Jr.’s upper lip looks very MUCH like FM Davis’, only thinner, having been modified by his White mother’s thinner European upper lip.

    BO Sr. has NONE of the upper lip features seen on BO Jr.

    BO Sr. is NOT the biodad. FM Davis is, as shown by the astonishingly well- copied facial feature of the philtrum and “Cupid’s bow” of the upper lip.

  191. Bill B. says:
    @International Jew

    We also have an inflated idea about the intelligence and sophistication of Brits, which comes from having experienced a very unrepresentative sample of them.

    Er….actually I think the British used to be relatively smart and sophisticated because – as many, including Ian Morris, have pointed out – the richer and more well established families used to have more children than the poorer ones for quite a long stretch of time.

    This meant that there was a ‘surplus’ of intelligent, often quite well educated, people who cascaded down the social ranks. So people in fairly humble occupations – vicar, bookseller, tutor – could be very on-the-ball. It arguably laid the foundation for the industrial revolution and empire.

    The resultant culture of awareness and civility – aided historically by courts regularly cleansing the gene pool – remains in the UK, albeit of course increasing fraying at the edges.

    • Replies: @Peter Johnson
  192. Anonymous[382] • Disclaimer says:
    @Das

    Obama didn’t feel at home on his vacation in Europe, understandably (it’s not his home!), so as revenge he uh… elected Angela Merkel and uh… forced her to open up Europe’s border?

    That would be perfectly rational of him, given his insecurities.

    However dumb Obama’s views on refugees are, it was Europe’s leadership that made the decision to bring in millions of Middle Easterners and Africans.

    He could have taken to the stump to advocate for the preservation of Western heritage and identity. He didn’t. Instead, he threatened Britain for Brexit.

  193. Clyde says:
    @AnotherDad

    Obama is visiting Kenya right now
    Barrack Obama Senior visited his son in Hawaii for 10 days when Obama was 10. I have seen the airport photos, they are still searchable. I am sure Senior also had other reasons for being in Hawaii.

  194. “A different President, however, was more in tune with our age’s growing feeling that the existence of Europe is insensitive to many people not of European descent (and to those who choose not to acknowledge their European ancestry for literary performance reasons). As with most prose effusions by him, it’s hard to excerpt, although the final sentence is concise”

    I don’t get that from the passage you cited at all. What I take away from the passage from Obama’s book is that HE felt out of place; that Europe was not his. I don’t get that Obama was speaking for anyone but himself.
    I don’t even take away that Obama’s alienation had anything to do with race at all. I was born and raised in new England from a relatively long line of Yankees, yet I feel far more comfortable in the South and my adopted Desert Southwest than I ever will in Massachusetts or New Hampshire. Obama just felt uncomfortable in Europe. So what??

  195. Bill B. says:

    I think an ability to appreciate ‘Europe’ depends on:

    1) To what extent you believe the world is a zero sum game. If you think Michelangelo’s Pietà somehow makes you, your tribe, poorer or shows it up somehow one will not feel much empathy for its glories.

    Indians in London often say, in so many words, that its great buildings were effectively stolen wealth from the subcontinent – without stopping to wonder why Stockholm also has fine buildings or if the industrial revolution might have something to do with it.

    2) A background of reading about history and the idea of civilizational variety. This need not be deep or on point. It doesn’t matter if a Japanese girl in Italy has never read any Italian history, at least she has an idea of historical nuance and artist expression.

    My impression is that Obama resents ‘Europe’ and also is not a great reader outside of anything that he thinks will not be fairly quickly useful to him.

  196. @Uilleam Yr Alban

    But the most successful came back.

  197. Anon[382] • Disclaimer says:
    @International Jew

    Do subcons have the musical aptitude that Whites and East Asians have?

    • Replies: @International Jew
  198. @International Jew

    Indian kids are taking names in all the spelling bees and science fairs. I know the Chinese are stereotyped as the “technical” ones, but I’ve always thought that stereotype was more accurate when applied to South Asians.

    Also, I second the repeated observation that Europe’s cultural centers are heavily visited by East Asians. On my Bach tour, there were more Asians than whites. Japanese love flamenco; rich kids get sent there to study.

  199. @Uilleam Yr Alban

    We (Christian straight white males) have no one but ourselves to blame. We had a good system handed to us on a plate. All we had to do was be conservative.

    Instead we took the path of least resistance, and found ourselves on the road to perdition.

    The WEIRD economy is dominated by a culture of effeminate college-educated white collar industries. This socially castrates straight white men, undermining liberal Christian patriarchy and liberal nationalist polity.

    Leaving the door open for Others to regulate demography: feminists at the micro-economic level, financiers at the macro-ethnic level.

    The rest is just commentary.

    • Replies: @Jack Strocchi
  200. Beside me the young Brit was snoring softly now, his glasses askew on his fin-shaped nose…

    The racial animus is showing.

    Maybe I was just angry because of his easy familiarity with me, his assumption that I, as an American, even a black American, might naturally share in his dim view of Africa;

    So Obama got angry at being treated like… just a regular American? Would he prefer to be treated like something else, or would he then bitch about not being treated the same as the white Americans?

  201. The United States is what it is because the European that came here brought a great culture with them. That is all that needs to be said.

  202. @istevefan

    The dysgenic war casualty = post modern liberal polity hypothesis doesn’t fit the facts. East European Bloodland suffered most war casualties (Yiddish Jews most of all) Yyet they have been most immune to post modem liberal brain eating viruses, as indicated by VISEGRAD ethnic conservativism. Israel being the paradigmatic example of successful post Holocaust European liberal nation building.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    , @snorlax
    , @istevefan
  203. anonymous[279] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Which European does not recall fondly those lovely Nigerians spreading out blankets covered with purses on offer, or the kind Gypsy families offering directions?

  204. @Forbes

    Not quite. He speaks Bahasa Indonesia at about the level of a four year old child. This, of course, has been occasionally spun as “fluent in Indonesian” by some followers and promoters. In any case it would do him no good in Europe unless he was parting with the Van Halens.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  205. @JMcG

    Fast forward to 2018. Now, I’d say that Las Islas Malvinas are there for the taking by Argentina. I don’t believe GB even has an aircraft carrier anymore. And if James Petras (in his current Unz article) is to be believed about Argentina’s current woes, it is not too much of a stretch that Buenos Aires would undertake a repeat performance (but a successful no casualties taking of the islands) to distract its masses much like it did in 1982.

  206. @Nigerian Nationalist

    What I’m reading here is no different from what a poorer American, Japanese or Chinese or even me might feel when confronted with the wealth and privilege of Europe–competition born out of envy.

    I didn’t feel that way myself. It was nice? My teenage self was mostly engaged in existential rambles about the monoculture of the world at the time, to be honest, and I wrote an essay complaining about how Zurich resembled any other city of the world.

    I was much more satisfied with Bern.

  207. @Jake Barnes

    I think Obama forgot what Bahasa Indonesian (an easy simplified language, a sort of national pidgin) he learned as a child.

    • Replies: @Jake Barnes
  208. peterike says:
    @Twinkie

    “Obama struck me as a very defective personality – one who seemed to betray negative emotions about the very people who raised him (to success) all the while seeking the adulations of the masses of strangers and evincing an unearned sense of superiority”

    We have a word for that. Adolescent.

    Obama was the first teenage President.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    , @Twinkie
  209. peterike says:
    @AnotherDad

    “ Jews–though smaller in number and influence than in the US–with their ethnic resentments, media and academic presence and endless verbiage;”

    The Jewish influence in the U.K. is enormous and has been so for over 100 years at least. In fact, it’s as dominant as in the US, if not more so. It is also highly significant in Germany, France, the Nordics and Ukraine (dominant there). I’m not sure about the rest.

  210. @JMcG

    And speaking of fit army guys, have you seen the latest on the US Army’s “Be All The Wuss You Can Be” campaign?

    https://www.greensboro.com/news/north_carolina/army-to-introduce-new-fitness-test-that-drops-sit-ups/article_bf763877-dc80-5405-9ae4-3113c9e19fb2.html

    Also got some direct intel from a Navy connection that there’s an abnormal wash out rate of SEALS trainees due to bone stress fractures. Initial inquiries into the matter implicate low adolescent/early adult milk consumption coupled with high consumption of energy drinks.

  211. Cato says:

    We mustn’t forget that this is not Obama talking. This is Bill Ayers saying what he thinks America wants Obama to say.

    Which makes it even worse.

  212. Rob McX says:
    @Jack Strocchi

    Interesting point, but there are other possible reasons for Eastern European countries being more pro-white than their WE counterparts, mostly the fact that they were insulated from the propaganda of the liberal media and entertainment industry during the communist era.

  213. @Jack Strocchi

    To have and to hold a homeland means you must have “skin in the game”. Lliterally blood, sweat and tears that are shed from building a business, siring a family and fighting for your turf. Hence the salience of “blood and soul”, which is just folk Darwinism for genealogy and geography ie an adaptative phenotype from the interaction of good genotype and testing ecotype.

    The Anglo-Saxon island nations (UK, US, Aus, NZ) are, as Orwell observed, insulated from geopolitical and sociobiological realities by virtue of their oceanic moats and powerful navies. “America’s strategic threats”, As Ludendorff once sarcasticly observed, “are Mexico and fish”.

    Combine the navy blinkers with the effeminacy and neoteny inherent in college educated white collar economy and one has a recipe for national decline. Once the last big rival collapsed (USSR) abd the last of the WASPs (Thatcher/Bush) retired, it was all over bar the shouting.

    I doubt very much that the literal application of liberal or Christian moral universalism were critical factors in hastening decline. But one must never underestimate the pernicious effect of “rationalism in politics”.

  214. @Anon

    They have their own music and their own instruments, which they’re fond of. While innate aptitude can never be ruled out, it isn’t the first explanation I’d go to.

  215. @Jack Strocchi

    “America’s strategic threats”, as Ludendorff once sarcastically observed, “are Mexico and fish”.

    That’s the greatest line I’ve ever heard. Where’s it from?

  216. @International Jew

    China and Japan (especially Japan) also have excellent symphony orchestras, and have produced notable great solo musicians.

    Ballet as well. There are several very good Japanese prima ballerinas and one great Chinese woman, Yuan Yuan Tan of San Francisco Ballet.

    India – nope. They don’t like Western music, and ballet is anathema to them, I suspect because of the touching. Different castes are supposed to keep apart.

  217. @Obsessive Contrarian

    When I was a kid in the 1970s, the L.A. Philharmonic conductor was Zubin Mehta from Bombay. But he’s a Parsi. It’s interesting that now there are a huge number of East Asian classical musicians but few South Asians. I wouldn’t have predicted that in 1976.

    • Replies: @Obsessive Contrarian
  218. Deepysix says:
    @Steve Sailer

    De Chirico is Art History 101. He’s the long shadows guy.

    But,

    “I crossed the Plaza Mejor at high noon, with its De Chirico shadows…”

    Long shadows at high noon?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @Dmitry
  219. @Obsessive Contrarian

    It’s been a decade now for the theory that Ayers completely ghostwrote Obama’s first book and how much additional evidence has piled up since Cashill’s original theory was published. Not much.

    In contrast, how much evidence has been published that Obama’s letters he wrote in the 20s were in the same prose style as “Dreams From My Father”? Tons. For example, we now know that from Garrow’s 2017 book that the Kenya section of the book was stitched together from letters he wrote to his then girlfriend, who is now a professor. She saved them and gave copies back to Obama when he went to write his book.

    Similarly, his letters to a previous girlfriend were printed in Maranniss’s 2011 bio and they sound just like the prose style in his book.

  220. @Deepysix

    Generally, references to “noon” and “midnight” in memoirs are just padding to make it seem more dramatic.

    In Anthony Burgess’s The Napoleon Symphony, Bonaparte sends a letter of encouragement to a besieged Marshall, ending with “I march at midnight!” His secretary asks if he’ll really be going tonight. Boney replies, he’ll leave in the morning like any sensible Emperor would, the Midnight stuff is just for dramatic effect.

  221. @Anonymous

    Here’s the guy who helped Obama pull Dreams together out of a lot of letters, short story drafts, and the like:

    https://www.sec.gov/news/pressrelease/2016-39.html

    Cashill got himself out on a limb with his assumption that Obama can’t write the kind of splashy prose-poetry that Dreams is full of, so it must have been Ayers. But Obama’s letters are full of it too. So unless Ayers was writing, Cyrano de Bergerac-like, Obama’s letters to girlfriends, Cashill’s underlying assumption is, basically, wrong.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  222. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Nigerian Nationalist

    This is encouraging, re Nigeria:

    • Replies: @Nigerian Nationalist
  223. Jack D says:
    @little spoon

    Wow, it’s almost as if different races have different strengths and weaknesses! So I guess Jefferson was wrong.

  224. Dmitry says:
    @Authenticjazzman

    Yes, but it’s weird and tragic how shortly jazz music era (contributing America’s only interesting, important and original high-culture to the world) was.

    Even from Duke Ellington, to John Coltrane – is just one generation.

    And by the 1980s years, it was already dying.

    Productive era of jazz can be placed inside Mile Davis own lifespan (1926-1991) – by the time he was dying, his last album, was this “Doo-Bop” (low quality rap) album.

    Maybe even lifespan of Charles Mingus is more accurate for the productive era of jazz (1922 –1979). Perhaps the 1970s was when America would make its last contributions of high-culture to the world.

    Although there is perhaps a couple exceptions like still Keith Jarrett, who continued creating original albums until 1990s.

  225. Dmitry says:
    @Dmitry

    Well perhaps Jarrett’s final interesting and original album of worldwide significance is La Scala (1995).

    He recovered and started again solo concerts, and continues interesting albums, but Vienna (1991) and La Scala (1995), probably the last concerts which make such a worldwide impact on music fans.

    Perhaps 1995, was the last original American contribution to high-culture with international significance.

  226. Dmitry says:
    @Deepysix

    “Plaza Mayor” is generally referring to Plaza Mayor of Madrid (although many other cities in Spain have their own main squares), and the one of Madrid doesn’t have particularly De Chirico shadows either.

    Obama is simply – an idiot.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  227. @Polynices

    Obama is precisely as European as he is African. So dopey that he thinks Europe somehow isn’t his while Africa is.

    Obama can choose to identify with a black African identity and not with the white European identity, even if he is fully aware of his ancestral mixture. His white mother didn’t really identify as a white American even though she knew that is what she was.

  228. Twinkie says:
    @SimpleSong

    Whites and NE Asians strike me as a good example of convergent evolution. While they are more distantly related than whites and, say, south Asians, their values and behavior seem more similar.

    Yup. Rome and Imperial China were parallel civilizations, but even genetically there is convergent evolution. Both Northern Europeans and Northeast Asians have fair skin, but it was arrived at by different genetic mechanisms: http://www.unz.com/gnxp/why-are-northeast-asians-white-skinned/

  229. Anonym says:
    @Rob McX

    I think it depends on whether a Cosby or OJ did what he was told. If they didn’t make waves, all would be forgiven. And OJ could have had his ex-wife and her boyfriend meet an untimely end, provided he had the presence of mind to delegate.

  230. sayless says:
    @Jack D

    Stanley Dunham also knew a cult leader in Indonesia named Soebarkah. He established a religious cult. Obama is an image of him, it’s startling. Looks far more like than even Frank Davis.

    I think Obama’s half Indonesian.

    Off – topic, has anyone heard from Q lately?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  231. 36 ulster says:
    @Anonymous

    Dreams From My Father…”based on a true story.” BASED, indeed. ” Some
    names have been changed (and characters contrived) for the sake of confidentiality.”

  232. Lagertha says:

    What is still disturbing about people like Obama/his supporters, etc…..that they never interview/reach out to/write about the people who voted for him, often twice, but changed their minds in 2016. And, that those same people are still supporting Trump; this is totally lost on these people. In retrospect, Obama was such a phony (still is) that it pains me (and y’all have punished me for it, numerous times) to know I voted for him.

    But, absolutely no one, no one of any significance, cares to know why people went from Obama to Trump – strictly speaking about well-informed people, people who did not lose their jobs in the great middle America. So, that is why we have so much snarkiness about “multiculturalism” now, in the EU & America. Everyone knows that the rich…(richer than upper middle class) need to pay for everyone else- and, that is not palatable. People know who the elite are, in every country, but everyone knows that the elite will never pay for immgrants/the poor/the illegals…don’t have to live near them or send their kids to school with them. Even Obama’s kids are segregated their entire lives from poor Blacks and Whites.

    • Replies: @res
    , @Authenticjazzman
  233. Anonymous[175] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Straw man. Cashill nowhere says Ayers wrote “Dreams” wholesale. Michelle and others are on record that Obama, in a fit of panic, turned over all those love letters, recordings, draft, etc., etc. to Ayers. Fisher’s contribution, according to Garrow, was to encourage Obama to avoid a policy book, which was what the advance from his publisher was for, and stick to the personal history.

    How is this any of this inconsistent with (i) Dreams is a work of fiction, which puts into question every so-called “fact” about Obama’s biography, (ii) the public was fed a pile of horse manure about Obama’s background, which likely helped to get him elected, and (iii) Obama is incapable, temperamentally, intellectually–whatever you like–of writing a book on the scale and style of “Dreams” without a ton of help?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  234. Anon[298] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dmitry

    “Plaza Mejor at high noon, with its De Chirico shadows”

    I’ll eat my hat if you can find that in a period guidebook, because it’s just so incredibly stupid. “Mejor”? “De Chirico shadows” at “high noon”? It’s just too silly, but it is quite beautifully written in a purple-prose sort of way, like one would expect from an AI stringing high-register words together in a way that superficially makes sense.

    But the Spanish translation (from ABC.es, when Obama visited Spain) is very nice too:

    «Crucé la Plaza “Mejor”, con sus sombras de De Chirico y gorriones arremolinándose en sus cielos de cobalto».

    They have omitted the “high noon”, because it’s just too stupid to reproduce.

  235. @Das

    Whose administration took out Gaddafi, which opened the Libyan flood-gates?

  236. @Obsessive Contrarian

    No, no. It’s the physical and mental discipline.

    • Replies: @Obsessive Contrarian
  237. jim jones says:
    @Jim Bob Lassiter

    The UK has two new aircraft carriers:

  238. @Jim Bob Lassiter

    HMS Queen Elizabeth

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Elizabeth-class_aircraft_carrier

    They have to find a place to put all those $$$$Lockheed F-35C aircraft their taxpayers are paying for, right?

  239. Anonym says:
    @Corn

    “Ahhhh, ummm, errr, ah” – Barry without a teleprompter.

    2016 was a great year.

  240. snorlax says:
    @Jack Strocchi

    The Anglosphere, German and French war casualties weren’t dysgenic because of their numbers, but because of their composition, disproportionately the bravest and most nationalistic men from those cultures.

    In the “bloodlands,” many of the dead were civilians, and massacres of civilians probably have a reverse effect, selecting for resourcefulness and cunning.

    With respect to the military dead, the rate of death was far higher than in the west, such that entire age ranges of men in entire geographic regions were near-completely wiped out. This was, obviously, devastating, but would not have had a particular dysgenic effect. In fact, since POWs suffered a near-100% death rate, it may have been that the most cowardly were most likely to die.

    Also, the bloodlands were arguably the most warlike region of Europe to begin with (hence, the bloodlands). With that in mind, they have been tamed — the Poles might pine over Wilno or Lwow, but they won’t be invading their neighbors any time soon. Israel sowed the seeds of her own problems (and quite probably her own destruction) by only partially ethnically cleansing herself of Arabs when the time was ripe.

  241. @Steve Sailer

    As with English, he was able to read a phrase off a teleprompter real pretty like.

    Obama himself has never really oversold his capabilities. Jon Huntsman often claims to speak Mandarin fluently but his pronunciation is horrible and vocabulary not very rich.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  242. @Nigerian Nationalist

    Not all white people are the same. What lasting grudges are usually specific to Perfidious Albion, and they really did earn it on themselves with the Summer Palace. I mean, its what they wanted at the time: to be remembered for destroying it. And well, they got their wish.

    Otherwise I don’t think that “envy” is a much of a thing in that sense. There’s a lasting memory, but some groups of white people did a lot of good too, and they’re remembered as well. The Germans put a huge amount of investment into China, for example, and are arguably responsible for Tsingtao beer, which is awesome. The US helped against Japan. The SU provided a great deal of material support for the CCP. Of course, there were also wars with all…its a complicated history, but not one without positives from interaction.

    Basically, I don’t think that most Asians think of themselves, or white people, as a monolith.

  243. @Authenticjazzman

    Why do you think it was sacrificed?

  244. istevefan says:
    @Jack Strocchi

    Israel is not the target of the brain virus you mention. Additionally for some strange reason, American conservatives defend Israel’s demographic composition with more vigor than they do ours.

  245. @Bill B.

    Gregory Clark has a book analyzing the long eugenic trend toward higher intelligence and better work ethic in the UK from the 16th to the 19th century; the trend reverses to become a dysgenic trend in the 20th century. The book is called “A Farewell to Alms.” Clark protects himself against SJW attacks by allowing for the possibility that the trend might be culturally transmitted rather than genetically transmitted. He was widely ridiculed in the academic community for writing the book, but it did get published and he was not forced out of his job. He had to tread a careful line.

    • Replies: @Bill B.
  246. @Massimo Heitor

    That’s good to hear. I hope Obama and the angry anti-white types are outliers and not typical, as I suggested.

  247. nebulafox says:
    @Jake Barnes

    Obama himself has commented on his embarrassment about his lack of foreign language acumen.

    What I think happened was he might have indeed picked up a good amount of Bahasa Indonesia as a kid. It is definitely not a hard language to learn for a native English speaker (especially compared to Javanese with its myriad Japanese-esque social subtleties, born from a similar reality of having a large amount of people crammed onto a not-so-large island). But it got rustier and rustier back in the United States from lack of practice. Even in Hawaii, who in the 1970s/1980s USA spoke Bahasa Indonesia?

    Same thing happened to me as a kid when I came back to the US, though I have way less excuses.

    • Replies: @Jake Barnes
    , @Anon
  248. @Anonymous

    “Michelle and others are on record that Obama, in a fit of panic, turned over all those love letters, recordings, draft, etc., etc. to Ayers.”

    Link?

    Garrow implies that Rob Fisher played a sizable role in organizing “Dreams.” But a lot of the verbiage had already been written by Obama in the form of old letters, such as his ones from Kenya to Shelia Miyoshi Jager. It just needed editing and organizing.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  249. @Jim Bob Lassiter

    We have aircraft carriers, we just don’t have any planes that can fly from them until the wonderful US F-35 enters service. :/

    There is a large permanent British military detachment on the Falklands https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_the_Falkland_Islands which in theory would make a 1982 style invasion very difficult.

  250. @sayless

    I tracked down that Obama’s mom was good friends with an insider in the Suboku (sp?) cult in Indonesia, which was an English theosophist cult that had joined up with an anti-communist Indonesian holy man. It was popular with Australian Deep State types stationed in Jakarta during the Year of Living Dangerously and the aftermath. But I didn’t find any more connections to Obama than that. If you know of any, let me know.

    • Replies: @sayless
    , @sayless
  251. @Dmitry

    It’s easier for writers to look up stuff to sound like they know what they are talking about now than in 1994 before the Internet was quite a Thing yet.

    Trust me on this.

  252. @Jack Strocchi

    “Combine the navy blinkers with the effeminacy and neoteny inherent in college educated white collar economy”

    First visiting the USA in the mid 1990s onwards, I noticed that younger white Americans outside parts of the South seemed more neotenous than British whites of the time; the middle class especially. Since the mid ’90s the proportion of Brits going to higher education has increased to more like US levels. I’ve never seen anyone point out that college increases neoteny, but it seems very plausible. Thanks for that.

  253. nebulafox says:
    @peterike

    >Obama was the first teenage President.

    I disagree: the office of the Presidency and American politics writ large took a major maturity hit in the 1990s when the Baby Boomers took power. Inconveniently, this was just after the USSR fell and removed any restraint on the wide-eyed dreams of our bipartisan elites, economic, social, or otherwise. One reason I’m not terribly upset about China’s rise…

    What I do think Obama fundamentally was, at his core, was the white liberal’s wet dream of what a black intellectual would be like. His world-view, his gait, his psychology, his politics, his fears and dreams and wishes: they are all solidly upper-middle class leftist white, not black. On some level, Obama knows this, and hates himself for it. It is a distinction worth noting, not least because the Great Unwashed tends to despise upper-middle class leftist whites *far* more than any minority.

    (As they well should, given that the rapidly expanded upper-middle class in the United States is a major factor in modern America’s deep structural problems. Their interests-and that of the oligarchs-have been favored without any concern for balance, with the dangerous add-on that the margin of error for slipping off the class rung has become steeper and more fragile than ever. Adding in a 1960s inherited postmodern liberalism to the ideological mix on their part just adds that combination of social condescension and sneering hypocrisy to the mix: which elicits a furious backlash like nothing else.)

    • Agree: sayless
    • Replies: @JMcG
  254. Twinkie says:
    @Svigor

    Or maybe you should up your reading comprehension, Twi-hard? Blacks are “other race,” you know.

    Oh, goodness.

    Statement: Medication A kills dogs.

    Twinkie: Clarification, it only kills two breeds of dogs. The rest are not affected.

    Svigor: Twinkie has poor reading comprehension! Those two breeds are dogs!

  255. Twinkie says:
    @AnotherDad

    Twinkie i think you’re right–though this isn’t a “black thing”. However, in fairness to Steve, East Asians are simply irrelevant in the context of the struggle in Europe.

    His statement was:

    it’s insensitive for Europe to have nice old things built by the ancestors of Europeans. It makes people of other races feel bad about their ancestry. [Boldface mine.]

    My reply:

    I don’t think it makes people of, say, East Asian ancestry feel bad about their ancestry to visit Europe and marvel at the beauty of its churches and civilizational glory…

    The issue is not whether or not Asians or black matter or not to “the struggle in Europe.” The issue with Mr. Sailer’s statement is that – as is his occasional habit – he lumps whites on one hand and all the non-white races on the other hand when that is clearly not warranted (once in a while he does admit that the biggest division among humanity is that sub-Saharan Africans and the rest).

    The glories of European civilizations do not make “people of other races feel bad about their ancestry” – they seem to make SOME people among SOME races feel bad. By and large, East Asians – for example – are rather fond of appreciating beautiful things European civilizations have generated.

    • Replies: @David Martin
    , @res
  256. Twinkie says:
    @peterike

    Obama was the first teenage President.

    I thought Bill Clinton was the first teenage president.

    But, I don’t disagree that President Obama seemed to have an adolescent self-regard (and confusion about the self).

    • Replies: @res
  257. Dr. Doom says:

    In a new and insightful critique of the Alt-Right and the Rise of Populism and Trump, former President Barack Hussein Obama II says that the rise of the Alt-Right movement has filled him with a feeling of being left out. He said the throngs of White people seem alien to him. They talk of an America he cannot ever relate to, and finds hateful. He regrets that the new populism excludes people like him who find America’s past as an enemy of him and his people, and ignores the pleas for more to be done and spent on him and his people. He regrets the formation of White political groups that remind him of the revolutionaries of the Black Power Movement and seem to want to exclude them from America that he sees as his rightful legacy and reward for the shameful history of exclusion. He reminds his readers of the outreach he and his people made to get more from Americans and restore the balance to bring about a peaceful transfer of the Old America to the New America based on hopes and dreams and of course transfers of property and wealth to the former slaves, people of color and anyone not White.

    Into a Dark Mirror of the Alt-Right, by Barack Hussein Obama II.
    From Social Justice Press, Chicago, Illinois.

    • Replies: @res
  258. Wick says:
    @Cowboy shaw

    It will be an interesting three years. It remains to be seen if the Nats can get much momentum going, at this stage i’m a bit skeptical that they will.

    As far as the glorious leader, she isn’t much different from any of the rest of them. Victoria was full of people who were convinced that they had all the answers and were destined to turn NZ into the socialist paradise it could be when I was there, I doubt it was any different for the PM seeing as she went straight from Vic Labour to Labour proper if I’m remembering correctly.

  259. TTSSYF says:
    @JEG

    The simple truth is, there’s no easy way out of this.

  260. TTSSYF says:
    @seeing-thru

    In a way, you can’t blame him. From the day he was born, he was told, in the words of another commenter on this blog, that he “shat ice cream”. This continued during his experiences in the Ivy League, through his Presidency, with the media fawning over him, and to the present day.

  261. Tyrion 2 says: • Website
    @Flip

    They didn’t say anything but I suspect Americans are well-behaved in Bali for the same reason as the Brits. It is a long way to fly and therefore has a much higher barrier to entry. For Aussies from Perth, Bali is simply the place for cheap booze.

    Selection effects can have huge consequences on our perceptions of groups.

    • Agree: res
    • Replies: @res
  262. @Lefty

    Same reason Japan is a shithole.

    Wait.

  263. @Dmitry

    ” And by the 1980 years it was already dying”

    Totally wrong as Jazz is thriving now more than ever. There are hundreds of Jazz fests held throughout the US yearly and practically every university has a jazz studies program with steadily increasing enrollment, and high schools from coast to coast are producing quality Jazz big bands.

    My point was that the black community somehow has lost touch with the great music which had been a source of pride and confidence for their growing up kids, however amongst the current jazz performers there are multitudes of talented black folks, men and women alike.

    I tend to think that a large segment of blacks somehow strangely view Jazz music as a “White thing”, and therefore shy away from it , choosing to view the “Rap” garbage as “black” music.

    In the black Jazz community of performers, there is nothing but disgust and animosity expressed towards “Rap”. James Moody , the legendary Sax and flute man, having publically stated, to the shock of the black Hip-Hop advocates, : “Rap is crap”.

    AJM

  264. @Anon

    Chapeau, absolutely brilliant.

    AJM

  265. @Jim Bob Lassiter

    I stand corrected gentleman. One can wish though.

  266. @Tiny Duck

    ” Also white girls lust after men of color”

    I was, sixties, in a band with a black american tenor sax player ( he retired as an MD ) . He said that white girls who run exclusively after black guys were all nut-cases, and you could screw them, but you couldn’t talk to them.

    Myself, I had a black girlfriend, a marvelous singer and lovely personality, however I lust after, prefer blond ladies, and my current wife is in fact a teutonic blond.

    You have no clue as to what you are blabbering about, and you are out of your fucking mind.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro jazz artisit.

  267. RVBlake says:
    @Stephen Paul Foster

    The public event where Obama’s teleprompter broke down while he was addressing an audience is priceless. Can’t recall the time or place, but his subcoherence was embarrasing to witness.

  268. Wait a second, Sailer! This

    “And by the end of the first week or so, I realized that I’d made a mistake. It wasn’t that Europe wasn’t beautiful; everything was just as I’d imagined it. It just wasn’t mine.”

    is precisely correct! Obama should be commended for his honest racial insight.

    Europe (the real, the Old) Europe is beautiful.

    And Europe is NOT his.

    What’s to criticize?

  269. @Anonymous

    Really? Not my impression at all. I like Obama. Terrible President (no future Democrat will ever be better), but I always thought he strove to be somewhat racially reasonable. Most blacks are racists; I really don’t think Obama is. I think he is honest about race, but obviously comes from a different perspective from that of most (White) conservatives.

    And the passage above is hardly “hateful”; again, more accurately, simply honest. He thought Europe was lovely, but recognized that he didn’t belong and didn’t fit in. I wish more Third World settler-colonialists were as humble and perceptive!

  270. @Steve Sailer

    Whites need to grow up and grow spines. That’s all. Who cares what nonwhites think about anything wrt OUR lands?

  271. @International Jew

    The Indian kids all have their noses buried in dictionaries to prepare for the spelling bee competitions.

  272. @nebulafox

    Obama True Believers think he’s fluent in Bahasa Indonesia and Swahili.

    Obama True Haters think he’s fluent in Classical Arabic from his memorization of the Holy Koran.

    The fact is he’s a mopey man-child who wouldn’t in a thousand years have had the patience to acquire a language as an adult. We’re just lucky he bothered with us at all.

    • Agree: International Jew
  273. @Twinkie

    You are so right about the East Asians. The Koreans, Japanese, and the Chinese are completely nuts for Europe. On my first European trip, to England in 1994, the Japanese tourists were everywhere. A few years ago our guide in Montreux, Switzerland, told us that they get more tourists from China than any other group. And then there’s my Korean-born wife and her cohorts. She’s just now returning from a two-week Catholic retreat in Italy. Last year this time she was also in Italy without me. Just last month she was in Rome with me on a business trip. I’ve lost count of how many times she’s been to Europe. Even North Korean hermit kingdom boss Kim Jong-un studied in Switzerland, you know. I think the East Asians appreciate European culture more than the Europeans do. That “Obama” excerpt smacks more of nitwit American Leftism than anything else.

  274. “Selection effects can have huge consequences on our perceptions of groups.”

    The one time I visited Bali, our hotel had a large proportion of fat Dutch tourists. They lay about the pool like albino manatees. Certainly influenced my perception of the Dutch.

    • Replies: @Corn
  275. @Steve Sailer

    I’m convinced. He wrote it. Probably had lots of help from an editor, but still, he’s the author.

  276. Aldoso says:
    @Johann Ricke

    In general, the problem with blacks is excessive self-esteem paired with the reality of low achievement, leading to anger about the bad people who must be holding them down.

    See Also: We Wuz Kangz, which unfortunately isn’t just an internet meme. In actuality, as pointed out by one Dinesh D’Souza, the Kangz narrative that’s manifested even in video games (see Assasin’s Creed having both a Kunta looking protagonist and a brown Cleopatra) is rooted in the infiltration by the likes of The Nation of Islam in public education. As told by Nathan Duffy, this was popularized onto the rap scene by one Ras Kass:

    https://thermidormag.com/nature-of-the-threat/

    In the “song” you hear a deluge of the Kangz babble we hear today. With a dose of fedora tipper quality attacks on Christianity.

  277. slumber_j says:
    @Stebbing Heuer

    Yeah, as others have pointed out, it’s Plaza Mayor. I would add that the “sparrows” swirling above it would be swallows. This is comically bad writing.

    • Agree: BB753
    • Replies: @Anon
  278. @Steve Sailer

    Do people really save letters from old romances? I never did. But then, I never dated a self-absorbed, ivy league, dope fiend.

    I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that normal guys don’t write romantic letters that should be saved. This just adds to my creepy view of Obama.

  279. Bill B. says:
    @Peter Johnson

    You’re right. My mistake: it was Gregory Clark.

    My mother, a teacher in the UK for four decades after WWII, said years ago, that it was common talk of the staff room, not repeated outside, that the intelligence of children had declined quite noticeably after the post-war introduction of the welfare state that encouraged low income families to have more children. Perhaps not in the 1950s but certainly by the 1970s. She is not at all ideological and went to unusual lengths to try to make sure the children in her speciality all got work after leaving school, if they wanted it.

  280. Anon[298] • Disclaimer says:
    @slumber_j

    Good point, I would have missed that, as, like Obama (apparently), I am not very much “up” on my birds. There is actually a very interesting story connected to sparrows in the Plaza Mayor, though unfortunately it was before Obama’s time: http://cowbird.com/story/4376/The_Sparrow_Cemetery/ (in Spanish: https://www.abc.es/madrid/20141111/abci-caballo-trampa-gorriones-201411102012.html )

    Here are swallows in Madrid, though not the Plaza Mayor:

  281. JMcG says:
    @nebulafox

    There’s a lot to what you say. The Obama administration was “The West Wing” come to life with the added miraculous detail of a black president. It was fascinating to watch my liberal acquaintances hang on that man’s every word as if it was revealed truth.

  282. Thirdtwin says:
    @Anonymous

    “In the audiobook, he simply recounts the European detour in pretty factual terms without discussing how “it wasn’t his” or how uncomfortable he felt there.”

    Did he mention the young Brit’s “fin-shaped nose” in the audiobook version? I half expected Barky to take a detour into shark-infested slave trader seas.

  283. sayless says:
    @Steve Sailer

    An article was posted by an associate professor of criminology at

  284. Ed says:
    @White Guy In Japan

    This is a hilarious clip, it’s like a snippet into the future and captures the delusions of many whites and the brutal realism of East Asians.

    I’ll probably won’t be alive to see it but axis of global power will shift to Asia.

  285. Ed says:
    @Righty

    No I mean folks like Neera Tanden, Kshama Sawant, Kal Penn, Vanita Gupta or any of the 70% of Infian-Americans that vote Democrat.

  286. sayless says:
    @Steve Sailer

    An article was posted by an associate professor of criminology at CSU/Fresno in 2014 in AmericanThinker which included an image of Dunham’s 1968 application for passport renewal; “Barack Hussein Obama (Sorebarkah)” appears and is crossed out. Author’s name is Jacob Wissner. Will post the link in a bit.

    She lived in Jakarta for a while with her son and had connections as a language teacher with the Subud cult, which has 20,000 members worldwide and at the time at any rate maintained headquarters in Indonesia, Hawaii and Chicago.

    Changing one’s name was a spiritual technique taught by this group.

    A member who became quite prominent was Deliana/Loretta Fuddy who was promoted to the Chicago office and later became the head of the Hawaii Department of Health a few months before Obama’s long form birth certificate was released. A few weeks after the birth certificate was released she died in a small plane crash, the sole fatality.

    There’s quite a bit on YouTube and the net about it all.

    I only know what I read of course. But it seems to be wheels within wheels.

    These people are complicated, my God. They make my head hurt.

    • Replies: @sayless
  287. Black people always externalize blame onto others for why their race remains mired in a Neanderthal thrall, loving thug culture, ghetto trash talk, unsophisticated and unrefined behaviors, violence and aggression turned on each other, always—ceaselessly—-blaming “Whitey” for all their woes, all their problems, all their centuries of oppression. Yet they overlook patent historical facts such as the fact that Black people sold their own people into slavery. And that the Arab muslims have been enslaving Blacks for 1,400 years, with the founder of Islam having Black slaves, with his favorite wife walking in on him while he was having sex with one of his Black slaves. It’s astounding that any Black person on the face of the earth would ever become muslim knowing this. Yet hundreds of millions of them flock to the religion that enslaved their people for 1,400 years. And the fact that Whites are actually the race that made slavery illegal.

    I have one simple comparison which wipes away all these tired, outworn excuses that Blacks use to avoid taking personal responsibility for part of the reason they have been oppressed for thousands of years. Let us look at the Jewish people. They were enslaved for centuries. They were oppressed for centuries. They were reviled for centuries. Jews were almost genocided off the planet. Yet, what can we say about Jews despite so much pathological hatred against them by almost the world? Jews are resilient and they have always—-always—-focused on education, staying united, and protecting Jewish life and Jewish culture and heritage. Look at the achievements by Jewish people over time. Review how many Jewish people have become world renowned doctors, psychiatrists, biologists, physicists, chemists, neurologists, engineers, business men, writers, poets, sculptors, painters, musicians, composers, comedians, lawyers, innovators, inventors, architects, and Nobel Prize winners. Jews have NEVER turned on each other and killed each other en masse’. As a people, Jewish men have NEVER abandoned their children. As a people, Jewish people have NEVER been drawn to low life, thug, ghetto phenomenon. Instead, Jews have always focused on achieving—-despite overwhelming odds. They focus on education, always learning, gaining more knowledge, speaking well and articulately, taking care of their own, considering Jewish life as precious, staying united as a people, achieving over and over again.

    In spite of being oppressed, enslaved, and almost genocided off the planet, Jews have thrived and continued to achieve universally. Then what excuse do Blacks have for being universally considered what James Baldwin called “the wretched”? The answer principally lies in lower Average IQ combined with primitive culture and a primitive psyche. The Average IQ of Sub-Sahara Black Africans is 67 (mentally retarded) and Black North Africans is 84 (borderline mentally retarded). This means that 66% (one standard deviation) of Black Sub-Sahara Africans’ IQs fall within 15 points of 67 which means 66% of Sub-Sahara Africans have IQs ranging between 51 and 81. This means that 66% of Black North Africans have an IQ range between 69 and 99. Ponder this. Roughly 66% of the entire Black African population has IQs that do not even reach Average of 100. This is just part of the story, however, Let us examine how low IQ is related to cognition, emotions, and behavior.

    [MORE]

    Lower IQ, certainly below 90, is associated with higher antisocial and oppositional behavior, higher rates of aggression and violence, high impulsivity, low frustration tolerance, hypersensitivity to criticism, lack of foresight and insight, lack of consequential thinking, etc. due to undeveloped superior prefrontal cortex (area of the brain for higher cognitive functioning such as IQ, foresight, reason, logic, analytical skills) and due to high activity from the inferior reptilian brain and limbic areas of the brain, which correlate with “fight or flight” and aggression/violence and hunger/thirst, basically the lower instincts of humanity that are animalistic.

    Now, if this is not bad enough, we move to the topic of inbreeding. I refer to sexual relations between parent-child or uncle-niece or between siblings or first cousins. In fact first cousin marriages (called “consanguinous marriages) has been occurring in the Black race since time began. The intergenerational inbreeding has created staggering cognitive and healthcare disorders and diseases in Blacks. The two races which have that highest rates of inbreeding in the 21st century are Blacks and Arabs, with a vast majority of muslims still engaging in inbreeding with first cousin marriages. Higher rates of cognitive developmental problems such as mental retardation, as well as higher rates of various infectious disease, due to comprises to the immune system occur in offspring of consanguineous marriages.

    While consanguineous marriages have declined substantially in developed countries, marriage with relatives continues to occur at substantially high rates in various parts of the world and typically involves categories of cousins, and, in some cases, uncle–niece unions. Consanguineous marriage is especially common today among Muslim and Hindu populations in Africa and Asia with a consanguinity rate of 25-80% and a high percentage of first-cousin marriages. There are 10 million newborns each year in North Africa and the Middle East combined, with the majority of the population being Muslims, mostly Arab, and most from consanguineous marriages. In parts of Asian, Africa, and the Indian subcontinent, especially among Moslems and Hindus, such marriages continue to take place on a large scale and show only a slight indication of decline. It is especially common in Arab communities in both Christians and Muslims. Higher fertility rates are found on the whole among women married to relatives. For example, in Ghana, a man had 100 children and his family comprised 35% of the entire tribal village. He almost married one of his many daughters. Inbreeding is common in many countries in Africa, likely due to situations in which high fertility rates combine with the Muslim religion to sanction consanguineous marriages. Also, polygamy is sanctioned in the Koran so Muslim men marry many wives. This causes a decrease in genetic diversity because a few men are having a disproportionate impact on successive generations. Random genetic mutations become more important.

    The prevalence of consanguineous marriages varies throughout the world. Rates of 50% and higher are found in countries such as Sudan, Libya, Egypt, Jordan, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, while on the other hand, rates are between 0% and 9% in the United States, Japan, and Brazil.
    The prevalence of inbreeding varies throughout the world. Rates of 50% and higher are found in many African and Middle Eastern countries such as Sudan, Libya, Egypt, Jordan, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, while on the other hand, rates are between 0% and 9% in the United States, Japan, and Brazil.

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/8527871_The_Impact_of_Consanguinity_Worldwide

    http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/147470491000800408

    http://www.intellectualtakeout.org/article/muslim-inbreeding-huge-problem-and-people-dont-want-talk-about-it

    Prevalence and Geographic Distribution of Consanguinous Marriages
    Algeria: 22.6 to 34%
    Bahrain: 39.4 to 45.5%
    Saudi Arabia: 42.1 to 66.7%
    Sudan: 44.2 to 63.3%
    Qatar: 54%
    Jordan: 50%
    Libya: 48.4%
    Mauritania: 47.2%
    Morocco: 19.9 to 28%
    Oman: 56.3%
    Palestine: 17.5 to 66.3%
    Kuwait: 22.5 to 64.3%
    Pakistan: 55%
    Iraq: 47 to 60%
    Israeli Arabs: 44% (most common type is patrilineal parallel first cousins)
    Syria: 30.3 to 39.8%
    Egypt: 40%
    Egypt (Nubia): 60.5 to 80.4%
    Lebanon: 12.8 to 42%
    Algeria: 23%
    Tunisia: 20.1 to 39.3%
    India: 5 to 61% depending on region and caste

    African countries which have cousin marriage: Benin, Botswana, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Congo, republic of Congo, Zaire, Egypt, Gambia, Ghana, Guinea, Ivory Coast, Kenya, Liberia, Malawi, Mali, Niger, Nigeria, Rwanda, Senegal, Somalia, South Africa, Zambia, Zimbabwe

    Tribes within Africa:
    fulani of burkina-faso: 65.8% first and second cousin marriage rate
    fulani, mandinka, and wolof in gambia: 65% of first marriages of men are to a cousin
    fouta-jallon (taramabli-dionfo) of guinea: 25.9% cousin marriage rate
    yoruba of oka akoko in nigeria: 51.2% cousin marriage rate
    lobedu (sotho) of south africa: 30% cousin marriage rate

    “A greater frequency of inbreeding is expected to predict higher levels of contemporary mortality and morbidity from infectious diseases” which includes higher incidences of parasite prevalence. Consanguineous marriage occurs in geographical regions that historically have had high levels of disease-causing parasites. Additionally, research shows that congenital malformations occur at a rate 2.5 times higher in the offspring of consanguineous marriages than that of unrelated parents due to the expression of autosomal-recessive disorders. A greater frequency of inbreeding in the African, Middle Eastern, and Southeast Asian populations predict substantially higher levels of mortality and morbidity from disease and malformations including lower cognitive performance, lower IQ, lower immune functioning, and higher incidences of diabetes, congenital heart defects, infectious diseases, multiple sclerosis, hemoglobin disorders, inherited metabolic disorders, neurogenic disorders, birth defects, abortions, and stillborns, all which are relatively common among this population. Thus, the societal, financial, and health burdens and costs associated with a higher prevalence of health problems related to offspring of consanguineous marriages has been noted. Researchers say inbreeding from polygamous relationships is the chief reason behind some rare diseases and is a byproduct of generational inbreeding.

    “The fitness costs associated with inbreeding are well-discussed in the literature. In general, it is assumed that inbreeding reduces fitness, and that outbreeding is adaptive because it fosters the genetic diversification of offspring in order to combat ecological adversity, including hostile biological factors such as parasitic diseases.”

    • Replies: @Peter Johnson
  288. @Intelligent Dasein

    I agree with you 100%. Consider this: Why are current acts of rape, assault, murder, looting, and anti-social behavior overwhelmingly perpetrated by Black Africans, Middle Eastern Arabs, and muslim immigrants? Because of genetic, cultural, and environmental reasons. The genetic reasons will not change. It has been 5,000 years and the cultural and environmental factors have not changed.

    Over the past 15-20 years, exploding numbers of rapes, assaults, and murders in Europe have occurred by these low IQ, mentally retarded and borderline mentally retarded, and inbred Black Africans and Middle Eastern migrants against the Native populations, mostly White females being the rape victims, and in an average of over 90% of the cases, the perpetrators are Black Africans and Middle Easterners, mostly muslim.

    CONSIDER THESE SET OF FACTS AND CONNECT THE DOTS:
    FACT #1: ARAB CULTURE OF CHILDREARING HYPERSEXUALIZED MALES:

    Arab culture (the vast majority of these Arabs are muslims) for thousands of years dictates that the mother, grandmother, sister, female cousins of Arabs caress and fondle the penis of the newborn boy to soothe and comfort the infant and child. As Jewish scholar, Raphael Patai tells us in his book, The Arab Mind, this practice can continue for many years beyond infancy. Patai states: This comforting and soothing of the baby boy often takes the form of handling his genitals. Mother, grandmother, and other female relatives and visitors, as well as his older siblings, will play with the penis of the boy, not only to soothe him, but also simply to make him smile. Among the fellahin of Upper Egypt, the mother may attempt to prepare her son gradually for the circumcision operation “by caressing his organ and playfully endeavoring to separate the foreskin from the glans. While doing this, she would hum words to the effect that what she is doing will help to make him to become a man amongst men.” Since circumcision in Upper Egypt is usually performed any time before the boy attains maturity, this motherly caressing of the boy’s penis may well go on at an age from which the boy retains distinct memories throughout his adult life.

    Additionally, in Arab culture, there is a difference in the duration of breast feeding. Patai tells us that, in general, a boy is suckled twice as long as a girl. A boy is breast fed for two to three years while a girl only for one or two years.

    Is there any wonder that Arabs and Black Africans, with an overall lower IQ and high inbreeding rates—-both which have a tendency to hypersexualize the individual, along with increased sex hormones in their puberty—-is there any wonder that these Middle Eastern and Black Africans, and muslims are raping women at staggering rates in Europe, as they enter a freer and more permissive society, especially one in which there are beautiful Native European and White women?
    FACT SET #2: RACE, LOW IQ, AND MENTAL RETARDATION: The Average IQ of Sub-Sahara Africans is 67 (mentally retarded) and North Africans-Middle Easterners is 84 (borderline mentally retarded). Mental retardation and low IQ has a direct relationship with the inferior reptilian brain and limbic system neuroactivity (the animal part of the brain, or fight or flight response) which is directly related to hypersexuality, indiscriminate sex, anti-social behavior, oppositional behavior, hypersensitivity to criticism, violence, aggression, high impulsivity, low frustration tolerance, poor insight and foresight (in other words, the inability to look within one’s own self and analyze, as well as the inability to use reason, logic, and analytical skills to make good choices), lack of consequential thinking (in other words, inability to examine outcomes prior to making certain choices). This describes perfectly the Black race in Africa and America for thousands of years. Meanwhile, mental retardation and low IQ are also related to UNDERACTIVE superior prefrontal cortex abilities. Prefrontal cortex abilities are the use of reason, logic, analytical skills, foresight and insight, higher frustration tolerance, low impulsivity, and higher probabilities for making better overall life choices which are adaptive and prosocial dominant.

    FACT SET #3: EXTREMELY HIGH INBREEDING RATES: The inbreeding rates of Black Africans and Middle Easterners are between 25% and 85%. Incest is pervasive in these countries between first cousins and uncle-niece unions, but also siblings and parent-child incest. I am a mental health professional with a license and advanced degrees. Recently, I assessed a Black female and involuntarily committed her for in-patient psychiatric treatment due to her extreme mental instability with acute psychosis and suicidal ideations, which placed her as a danger to herself. I called her mother to inform her of this. The woman was a middle aged Black woman and she told me that her daughter had been “groomed” at age 14 years of age. The mother also stated that incest in the Black community is pervasive and has been so since the days of slavery when the “Master” would sleep with his Black female slaves, implying that an epidemic of incest was due to White male slaver owners. While I had sympathy for the daughter of this woman, what I wanted to share with her was that “Master Whitey” had nothing to do with the fact that Black people have an epidemic of incest in their community, rather that incest has existed in all races since time began, but that the only two races that still have a staggering epidemic of incest in the 21st century are Blacks and Arabs, with the vast majority of Black Africans and Middle Eastern Arabs being muslims.

    Research has confirmed the direct relationship between inbreeding and substantially higher rates of mental retardation, low IQ, cognitive impairments, infectious diseases, and many other disorders, which relates directly to the paragraph above regarding the behavioral and psychological problems associated with mental retardation. All this places a substantial social, economic, and health burden on any host nation of these people.

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/8527871_The_Impact_of_Consanguinity_Worldwide

    http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/147470491000800408

    http://www.intellectualtakeout.org/article/muslim-inbreeding-huge-problem-and-people-dont-want-talk-about-it

    In Sweden, migrants from Africa and the Middle East account for 95% of all crimes. This has led to Sweden being referred to as the “rape capital of the world.” Grooming gangs of Black African and Middle Eastern muslims in Europe is out of control, with the rape victims in Britain being almost exclusively White girls. Estimates are that around 2 million mostly White British girls over the past 20 years have been raped and sexually harassed by Black African and Middle Eastern muslims. Rape, assault, and murder by these migrants has exploded in Sweden, France, Germany, Britain, Spain, Italy, Greece, and other European countries.
    Sweden: 94.2% Of Gang Criminals & 92% Of Rapists Have Foreign Backgrounds

    https://www.defendevropa.org/2017/migrants/94-2-gang-criminals-92-rapists-foreign-background/

    Sweden: 92% Of Rapists Have Foreign Backgrounds

    https://yournewswire.com/sweden-rapists-foreign/

    Migrant Crisis: 43% of All Rapes in Sweden Are on Children
    6/27/17

    https://www.defendevropa.org/2017/migrants/rapes-sweden-children/

    Testing Tolerance: Swedes are saying ‘enough’, to immigrants, no-go zones, sharia law & gang rapes
    6/29/18

    Sweden: Migrants are responsible for 95% of all crimes, overrepresented by +430%
    August 21, 2016

    https://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com/2016/08/21/sweden-migrants-responsible-for-95-of-all-crimes-overrepresented-by-430/

    FACT SET #4: RACE, RELIGION, AND FERTILITY RATES: Africa’s fertility rate of 4.7 is 88% higher than the rest of the world. Muslims make up over 80% of Black Africans, with the countries in North Africa comprised of an average of over 95% muslims, and over 90% of Middle Easterners. The Islamic religion teaches its male followers to have up to 4 wives, and for the couple to have many children, sometimes up to 10 or 12 children. In Africa, the numbers of children could be 20 or 30 or more, particularly in the rural and jungle populations. In Africa, 67% of the entire continent’s population lives in rural and jungle areas.

    If current trends continue, muslims will make up 27% of the world’s total projected population of 8.3 billion by 2030. Between 2010 and 2030, the U.S.’s muslim population is projected to more than double from 2.6 million to 6.2 million by 2030. In Europe, the muslim population is projected to grow by 30% by 2030. In the UK, muslims will grow from 2.9 million to 5.6 million between 2010 and 2030.

    https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2011/jan/28/muslim-population-country-projection-2030

  289. @Anne Lid

    That is because White Culture and Black Culture will NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER be compatible. EVER. It’s analogous to trying to mate a Neanderthal savage living in a mud hut practicing voodoo with Queen Victoria.

  290. res says:
    @Lagertha

    The Obama/Trump voter phenomenon could use more attention, but it does get looked at some.

    NYT article: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/15/upshot/the-obama-trump-voters-are-real-heres-what-they-think.html
    Some interesting Reader’s Picks comments there. Including one asking about how voting for Bush played in. Which I think could be very interesting but have never seen discussed.

    NYT seeking Obama/Trump voters: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/09/us/obama-trump-swing-voters.html

    Another group seeking Obama/Trump voters: http://visualnewshub.com/vote-obama-trump-wed-like-hear/

    I did not see followup from either survey though.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obama-Trump_voters

    This is an interesting case study: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-one-county-in-america-that-voted-in-a-landslide-for-both-trump-and-obama/

    In a nation increasingly composed of landslide counties — places that voted for one side or the other by at least 20 percentage points — Howard County, Iowa (population 9,332), stands out as the only one of America’s 3,141 counties that voted by more than 20 percentage points for Obama in 2012 and Trump in 2016.

    • Replies: @res
  291. res says:
    @res

    More on Obama/Trump voters, including an estimate of 7 million (~4% of electorate): https://www.economist.com/united-states/2017/11/02/democrats-will-struggle-to-win-back-obama-trump-voters

    That article claims:

    They are the main reason Mr Trump won Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, the states that sealed his victory. Both parties are now obsessed with them.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
  292. Flip says:
    @Forbes

    I think this is what happens when people are put into top level schools through affirmative action and then can’t keep up. They blame racism and become alienated.

  293. Flip says:
    @Clyde

    I saw an interview with a guy who claimed to be Obama’s boyhood friend, and he claimed that visit was when Obama found out that the Kenyan was not his real father.

  294. res says:
    @Twinkie

    it’s insensitive for Europe to have nice old things built by the ancestors of Europeans. It makes people of other races feel bad about their ancestry.

    I tend to read comments like that by iSteve as him parodizing (or noticing self parody by them) SJW thinking. In which case I think he is on target. I think your original comment was a worthwhile expansion/clarification.

    I think this (emphasis mine) was unfair though:

    The issue with Mr. Sailer’s statement is that – as is his occasional habit – he lumps whites on one hand and all the non-white races on the other hand when that is clearly not warranted

    given that Steve was clearly attributing that view to others.

  295. res says:
    @Twinkie

    Obama was the first teenage President.

    I thought Bill Clinton was the first teenage president.

    It would be interesting to lay out the similarities and differences in the ways in which those characterizations as teenagers apply to both.

  296. @Clyde

    Sign in Kenya says: “Welcome to the Birthplace of Barack Obama” @ 4 minutes 48 seconds into video
    1/25/17

    Oops, he let that truth slip!
    Obama in interview with George Stephanopoulos: “You are absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith. Umm, my Christian faith.”

    Oops, let another one slip! Michelle Obama was born a man—Barack Obama lets it slip that his “wife” is “Michael” during a speech to the military.
    She was born Michael Lavaughn Robinson in Chicago on 1/17/64. In a speech that former President Barack Hussein Obama gave to military members, he referred to his “wife” as “Michael.” Oops, he let another truth slip! That is at 1 minute 10 seconds in the youtube video.

    Michelle Obama is a Man BORN MICHAEL LAVAUGHN ROBINSON IN ILLINOIS. Joan Rivers reveals this 1 month before she dies.
    Interviewer: “Do you think the U.S. will see the first gay president or the first woman president?”
    Joan Rivers: “We already have it with Obama. You know Michelle is a tranny, a transgender. We all know this. It’s okay.”

    This Is Barack Obama: All You Need to Know, in One Place
    Website of David Horowitz

    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1511

    Obama is CIA, His family was CIA
    Steve Pieczenik, MD, Ph.D., former CIA psychops analyst, former State Dept official, has worked under 5 presidential administrations, internationally recognized hostage negotiator, co-author of Tom Clancy novels

    Dr. Steve Pieczenik: Clinton and Obama and Obama’s mother were CIA, Obama “the biggest pathological liar,” Anderson Cooper “trained under the CIA every summer…he was a clerk…he was one of the few homosexual clerks for the CIA….he doesn’t deny it” 3/15/18

    Barack Obama Worked For The CIA
    John Pilger, investigative journalist, 2009

    Obama The CIA Made Man: Black Pastor, Dr. James Manning, staunch opponent of Barack Obama
    2011

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sqF_GoPOOY

    [MORE]

    Black Pastor, Dr. James Manning: Obama worked for CIA in 80s.
    Obama was a CIA Agent in Pakistan and Afghanistan from 1979 to 1989. Obama never attended Columbia University as Obama has stated.
    Obama was a homosexual with Jeremiah Wright, Preacher, in his youth and they had a “down low” operation running out of the church.

    BARACK OBAMA AND THE COMMUNIST PARTY MEMBERS WHO SUPPORTED HIM IN HIS POLITICAL CAREER
    Communist leader on “friend” Barack Obama
    On November 15, 2008, Sam Webb, National Chair of the Communist Party USA delivered an address to the Communist Party USA National Committee. During his address, he noted the following concerning the party’s relationship with Obama,

    “The left can and should advance its own views and disagree with the Obama administration without being disagreeable. Its tone should be respectful. We are speaking to a friend.”

    http://keywiki.org/Barack_Obama_and_the_Communist_Party

    Obama also was friends with Bill Ayers and wife, Bernadine Dohrn, who were the leaders of the 1970s domestic terrorist group, the Weather Underground, which planned to overthrow the U.S. government and kill 50 million Americans and “re-educate” 25 million. Larry Garthwohl was invited into the group, then shared this with the FBI who asked him to continue to report back to the FBI as an informer, which he did for a little over a year. In the video below, Grathwohl is interviewed on a radio show in 2013 and discloses this information.

    Bringing Down America by Larry Grathwohl
    May 21, 2013

    Revealing the Truth About Barack Hussein Obama: Part I
    Islam is ½ and Obama is the other ½

    Revealing the Truth About Barack Hussein Obama: Part 2

    Revealing the Truth About Barack Hussein Obama: Part 3

    Revealing the Truth About Barack Hussein Obama: Part 4

    Revealing the Truth About Barack Hussein Obama: Part 5

    Revealing the Truth About Barack Hussein Obama: Part 6

    Revealing the Truth About Barack Hussein Obama: Part 7

    Revealing the Truth About Barack Hussein Obama: Part 8

    Revealing the Truth About Barack Hussein Obama: Part 9

    4-Star Admiral Slams Obama: Muslim Brotherhood Infiltrated All Of Our National Security Agencies
    January 2015

    Larry Sinclair gave a very detailed testimony about his SEXUAL AFFAIR WITH BARACK OBAMA IN 1999 in which Sinclair states he gave oral sex to Obama. In September 2007, Sinclair contacted Obama. I will let you listen to the rest of the testimony in the website link below. Three of the gay men who had sexual relations with Obama were murdered within a 60 day period of time in Nov-Dec 2007—–just before Obama’s presidential campaign really heated up. Two of the men were shot—no investigation occurred. The 3rd man died of a mysterious death. One of these men, Mr. Young, was the Youth Director of the church where Jeremiah Wright was pastor. Remember Wright? He was the pastor that said, “Goddamn America” and Obama had to rush to fix it. Obama and Jeremiah Wright are both gay. They ran a down lo operation out of the church.

    Black preacher, Dr. James Manning:
    Obama And Larry Sinclair Song

  297. res says:
    @Dr. Doom

    Classic Obama lack of self awareness of how he set the stage for the pushback. Use of the word “outreach” is interesting. Looked more like hectoring to me. Similar to current year “conversation.”

  298. @Anonymous

    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1511

    OBAMA GETS INTO HARVARD LAW SCHOOL WITH RECOMMENDATION FROM MUSLIM, KHALID-AL-MANSOUR, a former close personal adviser to Black Panther Party founders, Huey Newton and Bobby Seale. MANSOUR helped Newton and Seale establish the Black Panther Party.

    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1511

    In 1988 Obama applied for admission to Harvard Law School. At the time, a Muslim attorney and black nationalist named Khalid Abdullah Tariq al-Mansour asked civil rights activist Percy Sutton to send a letter of recommendation to his (Sutton’s) friends at Harvard on Obama’s behalf.

    Al-Mansour formerly had been a close personal adviser to Huey Newton and Bobby Seale, having helped them establish the Black Panther Party in the 1960s. He thereafter became an advisor to a number of Saudi billionaires known for funding the spread of Wahhabi extremism in America. Al-Mansour also showed himself to be a passionate hater of the United States, Israel, and white people generally.

    With al-Mansour’s help, Obama in 1988 was accepted by Harvard Law School, where he became president of the Harvard Law Review — which never published any of Obama’s work. He graduated magna cum laude in 1991.

    From April to November of 1992, Obama served as the Director of “Illinois Project Vote,” which registered approximately 150,000 mostly poor, mostly Democratic voters in Chicago’s Cook County before that year’s presidential election.

  299. res says:
    @Tyrion 2

    Selection effects can have huge consequences on our perceptions of groups.

    Well noticed and said.

  300. @Lefty

    Barack HUSSEIN Obama is the Kenyan born, EX-CIA, communist, gay muslim is the most duplicitous, dangerous president ever to occupy the White House. He is a traitor and deserves to be exposed for the pathological liar and traitor that he is.

    You need to wake up and face some unwelcome, harsh truths about your Black Savior. Oh, wait, if you are on the Left, you live in a psychopathological denial of all truths which are unwelcome to you.

    Barack Obama and the Communist Party

    http://keywiki.org/Barack_Obama_and_the_Communist_Party

    Barack Obama and Democratic Socialists of America/Socialism

    http://keywiki.org/Barack_Obama_and_Democratic_Socialists_of_America/Socialism

    Barack Obama and the New Party/Progressive Chicago

    http://keywiki.org/Barack_Obama_and_the_New_Party/Progressive_Chicago

    Obama also was friends with Bill Ayers and wife, Bernadine Dohrn, who were the leaders of the 1970s domestic terrorist group, the Weather Underground, which planned to overthrow the U.S. government and kill 50 million Americans and “re-educate” 25 million. Larry Garthwohl was invited into the group, then shared this with the FBI who asked him to continue to report back to the FBI as an informer, which he did for a little over a year. In the video below, Grathwohl is interviewed on a radio show in 2013 and discloses this information.

    Bringing Down America by Larry Grathwohl
    May 21, 2013

    Judicial Watch: FBI Files Document Communism in Obama Advisor, Valerie Jarrett’s, Family
    6/22/15

    https://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2015/06/communism-in-jarretts-family/

    Valerie Jarrett’s Communist Ties Confirmed by Judicial Watch
    6/25/15

    https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/21133-valerie-jarretts-communist-ties-confirmed-by-judicial-watch

    Barack Obama: His Life, Agenda, and Allies
    (Horowitz’ website)

    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1511

    Obama is CIA, His family was CIA
    Steve Pieczenik, MD, Ph.D., former CIA psychops analyst, former State Dept official, has worked under 5 presidential administrations, internationally recognized hostage negotiator, co-author of Tom Clancy novels

    Dr. Steve Pieczenik: Clinton and Obama and Obama’s mother were CIA, Obama “the biggest pathological liar,” Anderson Cooper “trained under the CIA every summer…he was a clerk…he was one of the few homosexual clerks for the CIA….he doesn’t deny it” 3/15/18

    Barack Obama Worked For The CIA
    John Pilger, investigative journalist, 2009

    Obama The CIA Made Man: Black Pastor, Dr. James Manning, staunch opponent of Barack Obama
    2011

    Black Pastor, Dr. James Manning: Obama worked for CIA in 80s.
    Obama was a CIA Agent in Pakistan and Afghanistan from 1979 to 1989. Obama never attended Columbia University as Obama has stated.
    Obama was a homosexual with Jeremiah Wright, Preacher, in his youth and they had a “down low” operation running out of the church.

    BARACK OBAMA AND THE COMMUNIST PARTY MEMBERS WHO SUPPORTED HIM IN HIS POLITICAL CAREER
    Communist leader on “friend” Barack Obama
    On November 15, 2008, Sam Webb, National Chair of the Communist Party USA delivered an address to the Communist Party USA National Committee. During his address, he noted the following concerning the party’s relationship with Obama,
    “The left can and should advance its own views and disagree with the Obama administration without being disagreeable. Its tone should be respectful. We are speaking to a friend.”

    http://keywiki.org/Barack_Obama_and_the_Communist_Party

    OBAMA’S Muslim Upbringing as a Child:

    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1511

    Obama and others have given much contradictory information regarding Obama’s religious upbringing. The most significant facts are provided below:

    * Vis à vis Obama’s religious upbringing, Islam scholar Daniel Pipes reports the following:
    “In Islam, religion passes from the father to the child. Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. [his Kenyan birth father] was a Muslim who named his boy Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. Only Muslim children are named ‘Hussein’.… [Barack Obama’s] stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, was also a Muslim. In fact, as Obama’s half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng explained to Jodi Kantor of the New York Times: ‘My whole family was Muslim, and most of the people I knew were Muslim.’ An Indonesian publication, the Banjarmasin Post reports a former classmate, Rony Amir, recalling that ‘All the relatives of Barry’s [Barack’s] father were very devout Muslims.’”
    * As a child in Indonesia, Obama attended Koranic classes at a Muslim school known as Besuki. At tha same time, he attended the St. Francis of Assisi Catholic School.

    * Obama’s good friend, the attorney and novelist Scott Turow, writes that Obama as a child spent “two years in a Muslim school, then two more in a Catholic school.” School records show that when Obama attended Catholic school, he was enrolled as a Muslim.

    * Journalist Paul Watson of the Los Angeles Times learned from Obama’s childhood friends that “Obama sometimes went to Friday prayers at the local mosque.”

    * Kim Barker of the Chicago Tribune found that “Obama occasionally followed his stepfather to the mosque for Friday prayers.”

    * An Indonesian friend of Obama, Zulfin Adi, states that “[Obama] was Muslim. He went to the mosque. I remember him wearing a sarong [a garment associated with Muslims].”

    * Obama’s former classmate in Indonesia, the aforementioned Rony Amir, recallsObama as having been “previously quite religious in Islam.”

    * Obama’s first-grade teacher at Assisi, Israella Dharmawan, once told reporter Paul Watson of the Los Angeles Times: “At that time, Barry was also praying in a Catholic way, but Barry was Muslim. … He was registered as a Muslim because his father, Lolo Soetoro, was Muslim.”

    * Obama’s third-grade teacher at Besuki (the Muslim school) told Anne Barrowclough of the London Times: “His mother [a Christian] did not like him learning Islam, although his father was a Muslim. Sometimes she came to the school; she was angry with the religious teacher and said ‘Why did you teach him the Koran?’ But he kept going to the classes because he was interested in Islam.”

    * Akhmad Solikhin, an administrator at Besuki, once told an Indonesian newspaper that the young Obama “indeed was registered as Muslim, but he [now] claims to be Christian.”

    * One of Obama’s former teachers at Besuki recalls that Obama would “join the other pupils for Muslim prayers.” According to Daniel Pipes: “Praying the salat in of itself made Obama a Muslim.” In an exchange with a journalist early in his presidential run (in 2007), Obama expertly recited the adhan, the call to prayer (typically chanted from minarets), which he also recalled from his childhood. “In the eyes of Muslims,” says Pipes, “reciting the adhan in class in 1970 made Obama a Muslim then – and doing so again for a journalist in 2007 once again made Obama a Muslim.”

    [MORE]

    * In March 2004 Obama was asked, “Have you always been a Christian?” He replied: “I was raised more by my mother and my mother was Christian.”

    * Robert Gibbs, who served as the campaign communications director for Obama’s first presidential race, said in January 2007: “Senator Obama has never been a Muslim, was not raised a Muslim, and is a committed Christian who attends the United Church of Christ in Chicago.”

    * But two months later, in March 2007, Gibbs backtracked somewhat by saying that “Obama has never been a practicing Muslim.” As Daniel Pipes clarified: “By focusing on the practice as a child, the campaign is raising a non-issue, for Muslims (like Jews) do not consider practice central to religious identity.”

    * In November 2007, Obama’s presidential campaign website stated that: “Obama never prayed in a mosque. He has never been a Muslim, was not raised a Muslim, and is a committed Christian.”

    * In December 2007 Obama said, “I’ve always been a Christian. The only connection I’ve had to Islam is that my grandfather on my father’s side came from that country [Kenya]. But I’ve never practiced Islam…. For a while, I lived in Indonesia because my mother was teaching there. And that’s a Muslim country. And I went to school. But I didn’t practice.” He added: “My mother was a Christian from Kansas…. I was raised by my mother. So, I’ve always been a Christian.”

    * In February 2008 Obama elaborated, “I have never been a Muslim.… [O]ther than my name and the fact that I lived in a populous Muslim country for four years when I was a child [Indonesia, 1967-71], I have very little connection to the Islamic religion.”

    * In a September 2008 televised conversation with George Stephanopoulos, Obama made reference to “my Muslim faith,” and then changed it to “my Christian faith” after Stephanopoulos interrupted and corrected him. By Daniel Pipes’s reckoning, “No one could blurt out ‘my Muslim faith’ unless some basis existed for such a mistake.”
    * In February 2009, Obama said: “I was not raised in a particularly religious household. I had a father who was born a Muslim but became an atheist, grandparents who were non-practicing Methodists and Baptists, and a mother who was skeptical of organized religion. I didn’t become a Christian until … I moved to the South Side of Chicago after college.”

    * Obama’s half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng, once stated: “My whole family was Muslim.”
    * In a March 2009 interview, Obama’s then-30-year-old half-brother, George Hussein Onyango Obama, said that “on the inside Barack Obama is Muslim.”
    * In September 2010, Obama said: “I came to my Christian faith later in life.”
    * Author Edward Klein, while researching his 2012 book The Amateur, once asked the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama’s longtime pastor at Trinity United Methodisy Church in Chicago: “Did you convert Obama from Islam to Christianity?” Wright repliedenigmatically: “That’s hard to tell.”
    * Daniel Pipes writes that “many pieces of evidence argue for Obama having been born and raised a Muslim” Specifically, says Pipes:
    (1) Islam is a patrilineal religion: In Islam, the father passes his faith to the children; and when a Muslim male has children with a non-Muslim female, Islam considers the children Muslim. Obama’s grandfather and father having been Muslims – the extent of their piety matters not at all – means that, in Muslim eyes, Barack was born a Muslim.
    (2) Arabic forenames based on the H-S-N trilateral root: All such names (Husayn or Hussein, Hasan, Hassân, Hasanayn, Ahsan, Muhsin, and others) are exclusively bestowed on Muslim babies. (The same goes for names based on the H-M-D root.) Obama’s middle name, Hussein, explicitly proclaims him a born Muslim.
    (3) Registered as Muslim at SD Katolik Santo Fransiskus Asisi: Obama was registered at a Catholic school in Jakarta as “Barry Soetoro.” A surviving document correctly lists him as born in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961; in addition, it lists him having Indonesian nationality and Muslim religion.
    (4) Registered as Muslim at SD Besuki: Although Besuki (also known as SDN 1 Menteng) is a public school, Obama curiously refers to it in Audacity (p. 154) as “the Muslim school” he attended in Jakarta. Its records have not survived but several journalists (Haroon Siddiqui of the Toronto Star, Paul Watson of the Los Angeles Times, David Maraniss of the Washington Post) have all confirmed that there too, he was registered as a Muslim.
    (5) Islamic class at SD Besuki: Obama mentions (Audacity, p. 154) that at Besuki, “the teacher wrote to tell my mother that I made faces during Koranic studies.” Only Muslim students attended the weekly two-hour Koran class, Watson reports:
    two of his teachers, former Vice Principal Tine Hahiyari and third-grade teacher Effendi, said they remember clearly that at this school too, he was registered as a Muslim, which determined what class he attended during weekly religion lessons. “Muslim students were taught by a Muslim teacher, and Christian students were taught by a Christian teacher,” said Effendi.
    Andrew Higgins of the Washington Post quotes Rully Dasaad, a former classmate, saying that Obama horsed around in class and, during readings of the Koran, got “laughed at because of his funny pronunciation.” Maranisslearned that the class included not only studying “how to pray and how to read the Koran,” but also actually praying in the Friday communal service right on the school grounds.
    (6) Mosque attendance: Maya Soetoro-Ng, Obama’s younger half-sister, said her father (namely, Barack’s stepfather) attended the mosque “for big communal events,” Barker found that “Obama occasionally followed his stepfather to the mosque for Friday prayers.” Watson reports:
    The childhood friends say Obama sometimes went to Friday prayers at the local mosque. “We prayed but not really seriously, just following actions done by older people in the mosque. But as kids, we loved to meet our friends and went to the mosque together and played,” said Zulfin Adi, who describes himself as among Obama’s closest childhood friends. … Sometimes, when the muezzin sounded the call to prayer, Lolo and Barry would walk to the makeshift mosque together, Adi said. “His mother often went to the church, but Barry was Muslim. He went to the mosque,” Adi said.
    (7) Muslim clothing: Adi recalls about Obama, “I remember him wearing a sarong.” Likewise,Maraniss found not only that “His classmates recalled that Barry wore a sarong” but written exchanges indicating that he continued to wear this garment in the United States. This fact has religious implications because, in Indonesian culture, only Muslims wear sarongs.
    (8) Piety: Obama says that in Indonesia, he “didn’t practice [Islam],” an assertion that inadvertently acknowledges his Muslim identity by implying he was a non-observant Muslim. But several of those who knew him contradict this recollection. Rony Amir describes Obama as “previously quite religious in Islam.” A former teacher, Tine Hahiyary, quoted in the Kaltim Post, says the future president took part in advanced Islamic religious lessons: “I remember that he had studied mengaji.” In the context of Southeast Asian Islam, mengaji Quran means to recite the Koran in Arabic, a difficult task denoting advanced study.
    In summary, the record points to Obama having been born a Muslim to a non-practicing Muslim father and having lived for four years in a fully Muslim milieu under the auspices of his Muslim Indonesian stepfather. For these reasons, those who knew Obama in Indonesia considered him a Muslim.
    * Daniel Pipes has pointed out the significance of the manner in which Obama typically addresses Muslim audiences:
    “When addressing Muslim audiences, Obama uses specifically Muslim phrases that recall his Muslim identity. He addressed audiences both in Cairo (in June 2009) and Jakarta (in Nov. 2010) with ‘as-salaamu alaykum,’ a greeting that he, who went to Koran class, knows is reserved for one Muslim addressing another.” Further, Pipes notes that “In Cairo, he [Obama] also deployed several other pious terms that signal to Muslims he is one of them: (a) ‘the Holy Koran’ (a term mentioned five times): an exact translation from the standard Arabic reference to the Islamic scripture, al-Qur’an al-Karim; (b) ‘the right path’: a translation of the Arabic as-sirat al-mustaqim, which Muslims ask God to guide them along each time they pray; (c) ‘I have known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed’: non-Muslims do not refer to Islam as revealed; (d) ‘the story of Isra, when Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed … joined in prayer’: this Koranic tale of a night journey establishes the leadership of Muhammad over all other holy figures, including Jesus; (e) ‘Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed, peace be upon them’: a translation of the Arabic ‘alayhim as-salam, which pious Muslims say after mentioning the names of dead prophets other than Muhammad.”
    * Pipes offers also the following insight about Obama’s use of the phrase “Peace be upon them”: “Obama’s saying ‘Peace be upon them’ has other implications beyond being a purely Islamic turn of phrase never employed by Arabic-speaking Jews and Christians. First, it contradicts what a self-professed Christian believes because it implies that Jesus, like Moses and Muhammad, is dead; Christian theology holds him to have been resurrected, living, and the immortal Son of God. Second, including Muhammad in this blessing implies reverence for him, something as outlandish as a Jew talking about Jesus Christ. Third, a Christian would more naturally seek peace from Jesus rather than wish peace on him.”

    * In addition, Daniel Pipes observes that “Obama’s overblown and inaccurate description of Islam in the United States smacks of an Islamist mentality.” He elaborates:
    “[Obama] drastically overestimates both the number and the role of Muslims in the United States, announcing in June 2009 that ‘if you actually took the number of Muslims Americans, we’d be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world.’ (Hardly: according to one listing of Muslim populations, the United States, with about 2.5 million Muslims, ranks about 47thlargest.) Three days later, he gave a bloated estimate of ‘nearly 7 million American Muslims in our country today’ and bizarrely announced that ‘Islam has always been a part of America’s story. … since our founding, American Muslims have enriched the United States.’ Obama also announced the dubious fact, in Apr. 2009, that many Americans ‘have Muslims in their families or have lived in a Muslim-majority country.’ When ordering religious communities in the United States, Obama always gives first place to Christians but second place varies between Jews and Muslims, most notably in his Jan. 2009 inaugural speech: ‘The United States is a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus and non-believers.’ Obama so wildly overestimates the Muslim role in American life that they suggest an Islamic supremacist mentality specific to someone coming from a Muslim background.”

  301. Anon[529] • Disclaimer says:
    @nebulafox

    What language?

  302. Hail says: • Website
    @istevefan

    the demographic transformation of Europe….has been going on for over 50 years now.

    June 21, 1948: The first boatload of Caribbean Black immigrants arrives in UK following the loosening of immigration law in 1947 to fill a labor gap.

    A direct consequence of Britain’s second Pyrrhic victory of the 20th century (1945), this one so Pyrrhic that Britain has never recovered.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
    , @gwithian
  303. Edward says:
    @Cowboy Shaw

    If educated upper class Indians had any shame, and I’m not sure they do, Europe should serve as reflection on what an odious job they’ve gone running their own continent for thousands of years.

    From 1947 to the early 1990s, India’s ruling class did indeed do an odious job, by adopting state socialism instead of liberalising the economy and embracing free trade. They’ve been moving in the right direction since then, however.

    Having just read a number of books on the history of the Indian subcontinent, “thousands of years” is a huge exaggeration, and isn’t historically defensible. South Asia was home to the Indus Valley/Harappan civilization (3500-1300 BC), labeled a ‘cradle of civilization’, which was much more advanced than anything that could be found in Europe at the time.

    Under the rule of the Gupta Empire (240-590 AD), which covered much of the Indian subcontinent, Fa Hian, a Buddhist pilgrim from China, wrote:

    the people are very well off, without poll tax or official restrictions… The kings govern without corporal punishment; criminals are fined according to circumstance, lightly or heavily.

    As John Keay writes in his India: A History, life in the Indian subcontinent during this period was “something of a utopia… a society industrious as well as contented.”

    Eleventh century India is nothing to be sniffed at either. Keay writes:

    Muslim invaders were well aware of India’s immensity, and mightily excited by its resources… the ‘Hindu country’ was renowned for its skilled manufactures and its bustling commerce. India’s economy was probably one of the most sophisticated in the world. Guilds regulated production and provided credit; the roads were safe, ports and markets carefully supervised, and tariffs low. Moreover capital was plentiful and conspicuous. Since at least Roman times the subcontinent seems to have enjoyed a favourable balance of payments.

    Pertinent to the discussion in this thread is an observation from al-Biruni, the eleventh century Islamic scholar, who thought that Indians “should travel more and mix with other nations”:

    the Hindus believe that there is no country but theirs, no nation like theirs, no king like theirs, no religion like theirs, no science like theirs.

    For what it’s worth, I’ve regularly seen Indians at tourist destinations in Europe, particularly in Barcelona. Coming from Britain, I’ve also encountered many Indians, and would echo the sentiments made by other people here: the “legacy” of colonialism is still invoked in discussion by many, though certainly not all.

  304. Corn says:
    @Paco Wové

    I reckoned all that bike riding kept Dutchfolk thin.

  305. @Dmitry

    ” And by the 1980 years, it was already dying”

    Totally wrong as Jazz music is now experiencing a boom such as never before. Almost every university offers a Jazz studies course, with ever increasing enrollment, and high schools coast to coast have established quite competent Jazz big bands.

    The issue with (young) black folks, aside from the many talented black Jazz performers, regarding Jazz is that for some strange reason they are apparently perceiving Jazz music as a “White thing” and are therefore turned away from it, and are then attracted to the trashy “Rap” idiom, which in itself really cannot be classified as “music” per se’, bonafide music since time immorial consisting of three elements : Pulse, Harmony and Melody, “Rap” however lacking the two vitally important elements of : Harmony and Melody.

    Amongst the black Jazz community there is no love lost for “Rap”, one James Moody, legendary Sax man, having shocked the black art world twenty years ago with his declaration of : “Rap is crap”.

    AJM

  306. @TruthWhetherYouLikeItOrNot

    A fact-filled comment, but probably better to find an alternative adjective to “Neanderthal” to describe primitive behavior. Sub-Saharan Africans are the only ancestral group with zero Neanderthal admixture. Mixing with Neanderthals (and Denisovans) occurred after the migration out of Africa. The use of Neanderthal as an adjective in this way is out of date now.

  307. sayless says:

    “Going to Johannesburg, I am.”

    He was remembering Dick Van Dyke in Mary Poppins.

  308. Paul says:

    Barack Obama is someone who has had his snout in the White European trough–his mother, Occidental College student days (where he, my mom, and my uncle attended). You know the drill.

  309. @Lagertha

    ” Obama was such a phoney (still is) that it pains me to know I voted for him”

    Well myself, I have been aware that ALL Democrats are phoney, for the last fifty years.
    I have been aware that to be a Democrat is to be a phoney, period, so you should have known this yourself.

    And of course I know that there are legions of phoney dirtbags amongst the Republicans, however the Democrats are simply the world champions in the areas of underhandedness, deception, dishonesty, hypochrisy, corruption, thievery, graft, etc.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army Vet, and pro jazz artist.

  310. Allan says:
    @Lefty

    “trying to prove a negative”? Oh, the heresy. Nevertheless, it has been demonstrated that phlogiston theory is not true. You could even say that phlogiston is imaginary.

    Euclid showed thousands of years ago that no one, not even an omnipotent waterworld god*, could make a list of all prime numbers. Or write ✓2 in the form of a/b where a and b are integers. It’s just not true that where there is a will, there is a way. Since Islam insists upon a god of unlimited willpower, it follows that Islam is not true. It was not true at the time of the Battle of the Palace of the Martyrs near Tours, and it is not true today. We know this beyond any and all reasonable doubt.

    And you, Lefty, have demonstrated that you are not well educated. You did not set out to prove this negative, but you did it anyway.

    Please encourage all those of your kind to stand aside and to be quiet for the first time in your noisy, chaotic lives. Let your betters show you a better way forward.

    ≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠

    * Ole Rømer, Edwin Hubble, and others helped to show that the cosmology of the waterworld god is not true. In fact, it’s ridiculous. To understand its absurdity, study…

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=genesis+1%3A6&version=NABRE

    and

    https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Early_Hebrew_Conception_of_the_Universe

  311. Anonymous[216] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Christoper Andersen is the source. In his Barack and Michelle: Portrait of An American Marriage he says that Michelle told Obama to seek help from Ayers with Dreams. (See, p. 164.) Andersen writes: “Two months later, with a September 1994 deadline looming, Barack was still stymied. It was around this time that, at Michell’s urging, he sought advice from his friend and Hyde Park neighbor Bill Ayers.“ Andersen then says that all of the oral histories Obama had compiled in notes and recordings, everything, including no doubt the cheesy love letters you find so overwhelming, was turned over to Ayers. “These oral histories, along with his partial manuscript and a trunkload of notes were given to Ayers. . . . Thanks to help from veteran writer Ayers, Barack would be able to submit a manuscript to his editors at Times Book.” What attracted Barry was “Ayers’s proven abilities as a writer.” Andersen bases his story on two sources from Hyde Park.

    You seem to forget how long this whole process was.

    Following all the publicity of his Harvard Law Review presidency, an agent contacted Barry and got him the initial contract in 1990. Barry failed to come up with anything and Simon and Schuster cancelled the contract. His agent (whom he dumped right before Dreams made him millions ten years later) got him a new contract and the book was published in 1995, with a lot of help.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  312. @Anonymous

    Yeah, I reported that at the time. But Andersen’s not a well-documented source. Nothing since then?

    What we have found since then is massive documentation that Cashill’s original premise — that the prose style in “Dreams” is unlike anything Obama wrote before and therefore was the product of somebody else — is wrong. It turns out he wrote hundreds of letters in the same Obamaesque prose style over the previous decade, and some of those letters were incorporated directly into the text of “Dreams.”

    It turns out that Obama had so many reams of his old Obamaesque prose sitting around that he needed editorial help in cutting and pasting, which Garrow attributes to Fisher and Andersen to Ayers. But that’s the opposite of Cashill’s guess that somebody else wrote the prose.

  313. @Steve Sailer

    Oh right – he was sort of the Dudamel of his time. He was very famous – ran the NY Phil from ’78 to ’91. He was a VERY big name.

    His father founded the Bombay Symphony Orchestra, which folded I don’t know when. There is now only one symphony orchestra, in Mumbai, called the ISO, Indian Symphony Orchestra. It is run by a Kazakh born violinist with a long name.

    Maybe the Indians associate symphony orchestras with colonialism?

  314. @Chrisnonymous

    Maybe. Both western classical music and dance are very taxing.

  315. @Steve Sailer

    There’s a section in Truman Capote’s Answered Prayers about the editorial process which is very funny.

  316. Anonymous[267] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    I don’t think Cashill’s said that Obama didn’t contribute to Dreams–the question is the final product, its tenor and whatever literary merit it contains–for the left the book is a literary masterpiece, the Guardian saying that it was one of the five greatest memoir/non-fiction books of all time. I think give what we know about Obama’s propensity to avoid hard work (or hard thinking for that matter), it’s much more likely that without Ayer’s editorial help–and if you know anything about editorial help, it involves a lot more than cutting and pasting–there would have been no book.

    Why is that controversial? I know that if I was about to write my memoirs I’d be hard pressed to come up with anything interesting on my own–most people are not very interesting except in their own heads. But if I handed over to someone years’ worth of material in the form of notes, recordings, letters (or email and texts in today’s world), the result: it would depend on the “someone.” Someone with no talent or desire wouldn’t/couldn’t create anything memorable. A talented writer might be whole different story.

    And Garrow does not have Fisher writing anything–he pushed Obama away from merely regurgitating the sophomoric policy paper he’d been working on (and to which Obama’s name was attached). Having a little self-awareness, Fisher probably thought the published result would be embarrassing. Write about yourself, Barry, Fisher probably said. Please don’t pursue the wonkish stuff I wrote.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  317. @Anonymous

    Cashill theorized from a couple of early Obama pieces, such as a poorly written article on the nuclear freeze movement, that Obama can’t write the kind of prose style displayed in “Dreams,” which Cashill praised highly for its phrase by phrase style. Therefore, he theorized that Dreams’ prose style is the result of ghostwriting (not editing or organizing, but outright making up big swatches of text) by Ayers.

    But we now have overwhelming proof from many old letters Obama wrote long before Dreams that he was writing in the prose style of Dreams at least a decade before that book’s publication. Unless we assume Ayers was playing Cyrano de Bergerac and writing the 27 year old Obama’s letters from Kenya to his girlfriend for Obama, Cashill’s theory that Obama can’t write in the style of Dreams has been falsified.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  318. @Dave Pinsen

    No. Terrible!

    Man is the worst sort of Government crony, all high prices in a captured market, very little exports.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
  319. Anonymous[274] • Disclaimer says:
    @International Jew

    Actors. The single biggest influence on the world perception of Brits are British actors. That definitely isn’t a representative sample. Most Brits have never seen a Shakespeare play.

  320. @Hail

    June 21, 1948: The first boatload of Caribbean Black immigrants arrives in UK following the loosening of immigration law in 1947 to fill a labor gap.

    Labor shortages are a common excuse given by immigration boosters. I’m skeptical there was actually any such shortage, since the massive boost in births after WWI more than made up for the country’s deaths during that war. WWII losses were too small to have any significant impact on the labor market.

    A direct consequence of Britain’s second Pyrrhic victory of the 20th century (1945), this one so Pyrrhic that Britain has never recovered.

    That’s actually an indirect consequence of the war.

    It is, however, a fairly direct consequence of the later justifications for going to war – in a nutshell, ‘fighting racism.’

    • Replies: @International Jew
  321. Anonymous[267] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    We’re talking past each other–you’re stuck on Obama’s love letters as evidence of his literary prowess, dismiss editorial work as “cutting and pasting” and think that, contrary, to every aspect of his record and biography (such as it is) Obama had the umph and stamina to create the polished hot air of “Dreams.” I think his love letters and the rest of the mess he turned over to someone for help needed lots of fine tuning before the final product of “Dreams” came out.

    Regardless. Barry’s a young man. I look forward to his memoirs and other literary creations when they come out.

    I mean, gosh, if only JFK hadn’t been assassinated we would have seen many more literary masterpieces from him in the vein of the Pulitzer Prize Winning Profiles in Courage.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  322. @Anonymous

    Personally, I don’t think “Dreams From My Father” is that good as a book beyond Obama’s Literary Writer prose style. For example, William Finnegan’s Pulitzer winning “Barbarian Days: A Surfing Life,” to name a memoir covering roughly the same years, has far more interesting thought in it. But Finnegan’s New Yorker staffer prose style is pretty plain and functional, while Obama’s screams out Literary Quality.

    And that was Cashill’s argument: that the prose style in Dreams is of high literary quality and he didn’t believe, based on one or two college newspaper articles Obama had penned, that Obama could achieve that prose style and must have had somebody write the sentences for him. Cashill’s argument was not about the quality of the structure of the book on a macro level, but about the quality of Obama’s prose on a micro-level. You may disagree with Cashill and argue that, well, sure, Obama wrote >95% of the words in “Dreams,” but it’s the macro structuring that make it what it is. But my point is that Cashill put forward a falsifiable hypothesis — that Obama never possessed Dreams micro-level prose style which has since been falsified.

    • Replies: @Anon
  323. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Nigerian Nationalist

    You’ve got to start somewhere. Let him get you from not being able to manufacturing a toothpick domestically to having some domestic industry. Then you can elect your Teddy Roosevelt to rein him him.

  324. NickG says:
    @Uilleam Yr Alban

    I suspect wars did much for the pussification of Europe, many of our best, bravest and most forthright were culled.

    I suspect this had effects on the European gene pool.

  325. Anon[284] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    It was falsified? By what?

  326. @Forbes

    Seems to me the reference to De Chirico is gratuitous–what shadows exist at high noon? None.

    Ha ha–that struck me as well. De Chirico paintings show the long shadows of early morning or late afternoon.

  327. @Uilleam Yr Alban

    A small suggested correction to your comment: Obama’s posterity is approx (1/4)100%+(1/4)*0% + (1/2)*(50-80%)= 50% to 65% black since Michelle is probably in the range 50-80% West African and 20-50% European ethnic ancestry.

  328. @silviosilver

    Labor shortages are a common excuse given by immigration boosters.

    I find myself face-to-face with all kinds of shortages:

    A shortage of buyers willing to pay me $3 million for my home.

    A shortage of sellers willing to sell me a house that’s nicer than mine, for $10,000.

    A shortage of employers willing to pay me $500,000/year for my services.

  329. gwithian says:
    @Hail

    The idea that Britain had to import immigrants because of WW2 is ridiculous. Sweden was not in WW2 and yet…The ideological imperative drove immigration policy and not any material want.
    Even if Britain’s victory had been overwhelming I don’t think you can explain why that would have altered the UK’s immigration policy. On the contrary; if the UK had thrashed Germany that would have boosted the narcissism of the British elite and their war against the British people.

    By your logic of never recovering from WW2 then looking at the USA in its present state one should also mention the infamous Pyrrhus of Epirus.

  330. Anonymous[378] • Disclaimer says:

    You suddenly dump millions of ex-soldiers into the civilian workforce and have labor shortages? How does that come about? (Serious question.)

  331. Lagertha says:
    @res

    And, I know why. Why is it not obvious? Whatever, Democrats are arrogant and don’t care.

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