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From The Australian:

‘Tribal divisions’ delay African gang taskforce

A taskforce of African community leaders set up to help Victoria Police deal with Melbourne’s youth crime problem is yet to choose its members.

The Australian 11:24AM February 20, 2018

PIA AKERMAN

A taskforce of African community leaders set up to help Victoria Police deal with Melbourne’s youth crime problem is yet to choose its members because of tribal divisions, according to the chief commissioner.

The African-Australian Community Taskforce was announced by Victoria Police last month following a spate of crimes involving African youth. It has been charged with providing information to police on emerging issues and hot spots, allowing officers to act swiftly, and establishing a more efficient channel for police to engage with community leaders and receive advice on preventing youth crimes and antisocial behaviour.

Chief Commissioner Graham Ashton today said that although the taskforce had met a few times, it was yet to finalise its membership due to “internal political issues”.

He agreed there was concern growing within Victoria Police that tribal divisions between Dinka and Nuer ethnic groups had caused delays in formally establishing the taskforce.

Anthropologist E.E. Evans-Pritchard had a lot to say in the 1930s about tribal divisions between the tall, skinny Dinka and the tall, skinny Nuer, and the Nuer system of segmentary lineage that efficiently organizes Nuers along the lines of “Me and my brothers against my cousins, me and my cousins against the world.”

… “All I asked was that they provide people from the community that can help us with the issues we’ve had with African offending, because we’ve had significant issues with African-Australian kids blowing up.

Obviously, it’s perfectly logical and inevitable that the primordial strife between Dinka and Nuer warriors in South Sudan spills over into crime and violence in Melbourne, Australia on the other side of the world.

The only solution is that Australia taxpayers must pay to promote Wakandan nationalism. They could start by sending all the Dinka and Nuer youths in Melbourne to free-screenings of “Black Panther.”

I’m mean, what else could Australia possibly do to keep from having more and more Dinka and Nuer crime in Melbourne?

Not let in so many Dinkas and Nuers?

C’mon, get serious.

 
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  1. “A taskforce of African community leaders set up to help Victoria Police deal with Melbourne’s youth crime problem is yet to choose its members because of tribal divisions, according to the chief commissioner.”

    Any white man who lives in a majority black city will be familiar with this BS .

    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
    Indeed. When Rahm closed a bunch of south side schools,under the wise leadership of one Barbara Byrd Bennett,now happily ensconced in jail , one of the loudest complaints was that the mixing of students from different defunct schools as well as students traveling thru different neighborhoods, would cause gang conflict,as members of one gang encountered other gangs.
    NOTE: We need an international movement to stop the importation of Afros!
    , @Dieter Kief
    I laughed spontaneously (=right away) when I read your quote. I couldn't help it. I hope you don't mind. - Those lines are nigh perfect, thanks:

    “A taskforce of African community leaders set up to help Victoria Police deal with Melbourne’s youth crime problem is yet to choose its members because of tribal divisions, according to the chief commissioner.”

    , @fitzGetty
    ... good Lord — yet another ready made criminal underclass, imported intact and losing no time in sapping the resources and patience of the generous Anglosphere host ...
  2. >I’m mean, what else could Australia possibly do to keep from having more and more Dinka and Nuer crime in Melbourne? Not let in so many Dinkas and Nuers?

    What about my diversity? I don’t want pale, stale, law abiding, and boring whites. I want some tax subsidized, exotic, exciting ethnic warfare.

    • Replies: @songbird
    I wonder what the Aborigines think of the whole thing. They would probably be like Bushmen before the Bantu.
    , @Nigerian Nationalist
    Pale, stale, law-abiding, and boring whites with the occasional serial murder and school shooting of course.
    , @International Jew

    I want some tax subsidized, exotic, exciting ethnic warfare.
     
    You forgot to mention restaurants.
  3. The simplest solution if you want third world immigration without the crime is to deport immediate families of criminals. Fear of that is the one thing that will get immigrant communities to police their own.

    • Replies: @rogue-one
    Family/community based law enforcement is a norm across Arab world. The problem is that middle class whites, media, and judges would immediately start a civil insurrection against such "abuse of human rights" making such proposals impossible in the west.
    , @AndrewR
    Lol why exactly should we stop at first degree relatives? I say at least five degrees. It's not like these immigrants don't know their extended families well. To limit ourselves to only deporting first degree relatives would necessitate projecting Anglo cultural norms (whereby extended kinship ties tend to be very weak) onto very different groups
  4. Encyclopedia Briannica is strong on ethnocrud:

    By tradition, certain of their patrilineal clans provide priest-chiefs (“masters of the fishing spear”), whose position is validated by elaborate myths. Spiritual leadership and intervention are important to the Dinka, who are intensely religious and for whom God (Nhial) and many ancestral spirits play a central and intimate part in everyday life. Anything from a lie to a murder may be an occasion for sacrificial propitiation of the divine.

    Basically the Yougoslavia of Northern Africa:

    During the last two decades of the 20th century, when South Sudan was still part of Sudan, the Dinka’s traditional way of life was seriously threatened by the Khartoum-based government’s attempt to impose Islamic law on the non-Muslim south. The resulting civil war in Sudan pitted Arab militias against their customary rivals, particularly the Dinka. Conditions worsened as the Dinka and Nuer, both southern Sudanese, also turned against each other. In 1999, however, the Wunlit Dinka-Nuer Covenant was signed and a cease-fire instituted between the two southern ethnic groups. The larger civil war raged on until a Comprehensive Peace Agreement was signed in 2005.

    I remember that George Clooney was for some reason involved in this bordello.

    Okay, okay, I’m gonna clean the kitchen now.

    • Replies: @songbird
    South Sudan tangentially evokes one of my favorite liberal myths. Belgians caused the Rwandan Genocide. They brainwashed the Hutu to kill the Tutsi. Before Europeans, the different tribes were one, peaceful tribe.

    Guys like Clooney believe it.
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    Pity they didn't leave the Dinka in Sudan

    http://ukcommentators.blogspot.com/2006/11/sudan-incident-1909.html

    "I always did like the Dinkas. Happy, idle, contented people, with few wants and no cares, singing to their cattle in the sun. Stark naked and free by the river banks and singing to their cattle in the sun. All they wanted was to he left alone, just like everybody else.

    Nobody had ever been to see what happened to the north of the Post, between the Post and the River, which ran in a wrongly dotted line on a 'provisional' map. We vaguely knew that great plains stretched for miles in all directions and that there the Dinkas roamed about over the new-burnt pastures when the rains were over, driving their great flocks and herds northwards across the Lol up to the Bahr el Arab River. They gave no trouble to speak of and paid a 'token' cattle tax yearly to the Government which had never found time to go up and count their cattle.

    All very easy and everybody was quite happy. Then the Arabs started coming down from beyond the River to the north, and panic spread and grew with every raid over the plains, and the Dinkas fled before the Arab horsemen thundering over the hard burnt soil and took refuge on the fringe of the forest to the south. Poor, gentle, timid Dinkas, they just ran and ran till where the plains met the forest. The Arabs used to ride down like lightning from their country beyond the River, spearing anyone they met on their road who offered resistance, and recrossing the river with a mob of raided cattle driven before them and lithe naked Dinka girls strapped on to their great saddles behind them.

    So it went on. Something had to be done.

    So I was sent up to the Bahr el Arab, across the River Lol north of the Post. I and Shawish Kapsur, Almaz, Selim and Yambios - to meet Musa Madibo, the Sheikh of the Arabs. He lived in unadministered country and beyond reach of the law. Slatin arranged the meeting on the river.

    So I went up to the River and the shadow that was over the plains lifted and the Dinkas came forth again out of the protecting forest and drove their great bellowing herds back to pasture over the plains; singing to them by the rivers and lying in the sun.

    We stood and looked at the River. There was no sign of anybody on the banks.

    I said, 'He ought to he here by now. We've had much further to go than he has.'

    Kapsur said: 'You never can depend on Arabs.' I said: 'But the Pasha himself wrote to him and fixed the date.'

    'You can't depend on Arabs.'

    I said, 'Well, we can't waste all day looking at the river waiting.'

    'It's always waste of time to make a date with Arabs.' That was Shawish Kapsur. He was a black heathen from somewhere or other - I forgot where. Some of our police came from the other side of Africa - kidnapped as children by Fellata pilgrims up Sokotu way and set free by us (with luck) in the Bahr el Ghazal.

    Shawish Kapsur was very brave. He once charged a charging elephant, shouting and waving his straw hat, and turned it. I watched him as I lay (exhausted) in the mud. All very long ago. But for Kapsur and his fantastic charge, I suppose I should still be under the mud, down Meshra way.

    I gave my mule to Selim to hold and wandered up the bank. Aimaz and Yambios were fishing. Shawish Kapsur came along with me.

    I was wondering how long I ought to stay, waiting for a man who might never come, who lived beyond reach of the law, whom nobody had ever seen, except perhaps Slatin in the old Mahdi days. And then there was a thunder of galloping hoofs and I was in the middle of a crowd of Arab horsemen who'd suddenly appeared from nowhere.

    I said: 'Peace be upon you.' I thought this was Sheikh Musa arriving with the usual Arab bluster and fantasia.

    But there was no reply. 'And upon you the peace' and nobody dismounted to greet the Governor's representative on the river. All the Arabs carried the long dervish spear and a few of them had old Remington rifles. Then I noticed the leaf-shaped spear heads and some of them were red.

    Again I said, 'El Salaam aleikum' and still there was no response.

    I said, 'I have come as arranged by the Pasha to make peace on the border. Where is Sheikh Musa?'

    Pax Britannica and all that. How fantastic!

    What should Arabs want with the peace when the finest sport in the world was to be had at the expense of the unbelieving dogs of Dinkas? Infidel and uncircumcised Dinkas, flaunting their shame before the pious Moslems. The ride through the night - the fording of the boundary river - the mad gallop over the plains - the chase of the slim, shrieking Dinka and the long spear piercing his shining naked back....

    The slender naked black girls lifted from the cattle posts and strapped, struggling, to the great saddles.

    The mob of cattle driven bellowing to the north.... The boasting of great deeds done that day, in the safety of the camp fires fifty miles away ...

    There it was. They looked on it all from a slightly different angle. "
     
  5. @Dave Pinsen
    The simplest solution if you want third world immigration without the crime is to deport immediate families of criminals. Fear of that is the one thing that will get immigrant communities to police their own.

    Family/community based law enforcement is a norm across Arab world. The problem is that middle class whites, media, and judges would immediately start a civil insurrection against such “abuse of human rights” making such proposals impossible in the west.

  6. What possessed even the stupidest of the stupidest of dogooder Australians to bring in the Afriques ?
    The simplest solution if you want third world immigration without the crime is to deport immediate families of criminals.
    Africans are family and clan based so this will work. They wnat need crave to live in the West so drive them of this

    • Replies: @Clyde
    They want need crave to live in The West so deprive them of this
    , @Anonymous
    What possessed even the stupidest of the stupidest of dogooder Australians to bring in the Afriques ?

    The Australian government (and the immigration levels have never been popular, it's just that there was no major party that offered any alternative) that persisted in bringing in non-white immigrants at world-leading rates was composed of people with very little experience with these people. Australia was effectively a whitopia. The largest areas of population in Australia are NSW and Victoria, with capital cities of Sydney and Victoria respectively. Neither have many aboriginals per capita compared to, say, Darwin or any of the small aboriginal townships in the NW.

    https://www.creativespirits.info/images/uploads/aboriginalculture/land/map-of-aboriginal-communities.png

    Virtue signalling about ethnicities you know nothing about is common to all whitopias from what I've seen, e.g. Sweden to Minnesota to Maine to Australia to Canada. They get their attitudes from Hollywood movies and the like for the most part, where South Africans are horrible evil racists for no reason at all, against the saintly black SSAs.

    The following article is worth reading. Hubert Opperman played a role, but by no means the only one. Unfortunately the ocean did not take Harold Holt until he had cracked open the flood gates for 800 non-white refugees and Japanese war brides.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Australia_policy
    , @fitzGetty
    ... to live in the Anglosphere - yes ... but more importantly to be subsidised by the Anglos ...
  7. As with immi everywhere else in the developed world, nobody thinks of the impact of further immigration on the poor brown-skinned aboriginals already there.

  8. @Clyde
    What possessed even the stupidest of the stupidest of dogooder Australians to bring in the Afriques ?
    The simplest solution if you want third world immigration without the crime is to deport immediate families of criminals.
    Africans are family and clan based so this will work. They wnat need crave to live in the West so drive them of this

    They want need crave to live in The West so deprive them of this

  9. You’ve been generous lately Steve , but they can’t be housebroken . Nothing lasts forever .

  10. What’s the initiation ritual for these gangs? Do they have to kiss the anal
    orifice of a wallaby?

    • Replies: @Ivy
    Flexible tribals adapt their environs. The new ritual could include a dingo.
  11. Liberalism is the suicide of the West.

  12. @rogue-one
    >I’m mean, what else could Australia possibly do to keep from having more and more Dinka and Nuer crime in Melbourne? Not let in so many Dinkas and Nuers?

    What about my diversity? I don't want pale, stale, law abiding, and boring whites. I want some tax subsidized, exotic, exciting ethnic warfare.

    I wonder what the Aborigines think of the whole thing. They would probably be like Bushmen before the Bantu.

  13. Close the borders, deport the invaders, crush the traitors. And reinstate the White Australia policy.

    • Replies: @Truth
    Hey, and if that doesn't work, I've heard wonderful things about midnight Australian Rules Football...
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    You know it's an island, right?

    Anyway, it should be easier for the Aussies than us, and I agree with the last three parts.
    , @rogue-one
    What about those who aren't white, are law abiding legal migrants & their descendants, and who are positively contributing to the society?
  14. Hamilton is white history done in blackface; Wakanda is whitish society done in blackface.

    • Replies: @helena
    I guess they researched the name?

    Wakanda:

    Grow up - Chichewa, Sesotho, Shona, Swahili, Xhosa, Zulu
    That is - Hausa, Hawaiian, Igbo, Maori, Samoan, Yoruba
    In case - Hmong, Somali, Tajik
    Able to - Kurdish, Nepali, Pashto, Sindhi
    Wandering - Bengali
    Effective - Tamil
    Widespread - Urdu
    Wake career - Turkish
  15. @El Dato
    Encyclopedia Briannica is strong on ethnocrud:

    By tradition, certain of their patrilineal clans provide priest-chiefs (“masters of the fishing spear”), whose position is validated by elaborate myths. Spiritual leadership and intervention are important to the Dinka, who are intensely religious and for whom God (Nhial) and many ancestral spirits play a central and intimate part in everyday life. Anything from a lie to a murder may be an occasion for sacrificial propitiation of the divine.
     
    Basically the Yougoslavia of Northern Africa:

    During the last two decades of the 20th century, when South Sudan was still part of Sudan, the Dinka’s traditional way of life was seriously threatened by the Khartoum-based government’s attempt to impose Islamic law on the non-Muslim south. The resulting civil war in Sudan pitted Arab militias against their customary rivals, particularly the Dinka. Conditions worsened as the Dinka and Nuer, both southern Sudanese, also turned against each other. In 1999, however, the Wunlit Dinka-Nuer Covenant was signed and a cease-fire instituted between the two southern ethnic groups. The larger civil war raged on until a Comprehensive Peace Agreement was signed in 2005.
     
    I remember that George Clooney was for some reason involved in this bordello.

    Okay, okay, I'm gonna clean the kitchen now.

    South Sudan tangentially evokes one of my favorite liberal myths. Belgians caused the Rwandan Genocide. They brainwashed the Hutu to kill the Tutsi. Before Europeans, the different tribes were one, peaceful tribe.

    Guys like Clooney believe it.

    • Replies: @helena
    I listened as two British citizens (BAME) - one a broadcaster - agreed that the British Empire was uniquely evil because not only did it invade countries but it also brainwashed the entire world and the African continent has yet to recover it's true pre-colonial/capitalist socialist nature.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Songbird, I stopped reading a book on the Iroquois people in NY because the authors claim that before the Revolutionary War the Mohawks and the Senecas, who chose different sides, hadn't fought in centuries. Hell, I know dozens of Senecas and Mohawks and they still don't like each other.
  16. @Lurker
    Close the borders, deport the invaders, crush the traitors. And reinstate the White Australia policy.

    Hey, and if that doesn’t work, I’ve heard wonderful things about midnight Australian Rules Football…

  17. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Clyde
    What possessed even the stupidest of the stupidest of dogooder Australians to bring in the Afriques ?
    The simplest solution if you want third world immigration without the crime is to deport immediate families of criminals.
    Africans are family and clan based so this will work. They wnat need crave to live in the West so drive them of this

    What possessed even the stupidest of the stupidest of dogooder Australians to bring in the Afriques ?

    The Australian government (and the immigration levels have never been popular, it’s just that there was no major party that offered any alternative) that persisted in bringing in non-white immigrants at world-leading rates was composed of people with very little experience with these people. Australia was effectively a whitopia. The largest areas of population in Australia are NSW and Victoria, with capital cities of Sydney and Victoria respectively. Neither have many aboriginals per capita compared to, say, Darwin or any of the small aboriginal townships in the NW.

    Virtue signalling about ethnicities you know nothing about is common to all whitopias from what I’ve seen, e.g. Sweden to Minnesota to Maine to Australia to Canada. They get their attitudes from Hollywood movies and the like for the most part, where South Africans are horrible evil racists for no reason at all, against the saintly black SSAs.

    The following article is worth reading. Hubert Opperman played a role, but by no means the only one. Unfortunately the ocean did not take Harold Holt until he had cracked open the flood gates for 800 non-white refugees and Japanese war brides.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Australia_policy

  18. @rogue-one
    >I’m mean, what else could Australia possibly do to keep from having more and more Dinka and Nuer crime in Melbourne? Not let in so many Dinkas and Nuers?

    What about my diversity? I don't want pale, stale, law abiding, and boring whites. I want some tax subsidized, exotic, exciting ethnic warfare.

    Pale, stale, law-abiding, and boring whites with the occasional serial murder and school shooting of course.

    • Replies: @rogue-one
    Fair enough. I should have phrased it better to focus only on importing ethnic warfare.
    , @bomag
    Every ethnic group has a crime rate which holds fairly steady across environs.

    The crime rate you face depends largely around whom you live.

    Some places are better than others on the basis of the people that populate the place.

    , @al gore rhythms
    The threat of school shootings doesn't seem to put migrants off from coming to America, does it?
  19. @Reg Cæsar
    What's the initiation ritual for these gangs? Do they have to kiss the anal
    orifice of a wallaby?

    Flexible tribals adapt their environs. The new ritual could include a dingo.

  20. @Dave Pinsen
    The simplest solution if you want third world immigration without the crime is to deport immediate families of criminals. Fear of that is the one thing that will get immigrant communities to police their own.

    Lol why exactly should we stop at first degree relatives? I say at least five degrees. It’s not like these immigrants don’t know their extended families well. To limit ourselves to only deporting first degree relatives would necessitate projecting Anglo cultural norms (whereby extended kinship ties tend to be very weak) onto very different groups

  21. A taskforce of African community leaders

    It seems there is a correlation between communities with community leaders and shithole communities. Those that have them are shitholes and the rest of us apparently don’t need them.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Here we use the term "community organizers" for the people who organize places into shitholes. I remember hearing about one of those in the news for almost a decade. It's been a year or more now, so forgive me if his name doesn't roll off my tongue....
  22. @Lurker
    Close the borders, deport the invaders, crush the traitors. And reinstate the White Australia policy.

    You know it’s an island, right?

    Anyway, it should be easier for the Aussies than us, and I agree with the last three parts.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    By borders I mean physical, legal, virtual etc.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    You know it’s an island, right?
     
    They used to have a land border with Indonesia. Papua New Guinea was for most of the 20th century effectively Australia's Newfoundland and Puerto Rico.

    Queensland tried to annex it in the late 19th century, in much the same way some Southerners wanted to annex Cuba. There's something about the hot sun that deteriorates the white man's common sense.
  23. @istevefan

    A taskforce of African community leaders
     
    It seems there is a correlation between communities with community leaders and shithole communities. Those that have them are shitholes and the rest of us apparently don't need them.

    Here we use the term “community organizers” for the people who organize places into shitholes. I remember hearing about one of those in the news for almost a decade. It’s been a year or more now, so forgive me if his name doesn’t roll off my tongue….

  24. I don’t even understand why a country like Australia would even take refugees from Sudan? It makes no sense, why invite trouble? Australia is in a position where it can pick among the best why go shopping in the gutter?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    The 'people' behind this policy, just like the ones in America and Europe, are deliberately trying to wreck these societies. And they are succeeding.

    This is not hyperbole. Their goal is to remake all advanced white nations (redundant phrase) as third-world pissholes with a tiny, tribal elite controlling everything from their penthouses, boardrooms, and gated communities.

    If white people are allowed to control their own countries -- and their own destinies -- the "tribe" will be just another minority. An extremely wealthy, powerful minority, 'tis true, and that this is not good enough for them is telling.

  25. Evans-Pritchard once queried a Nuer warrior on one aspect of the perpetual warfare the Nuer waged against the Dinka. As a student of anthropology and human history, Evans-Pritchard understood the Nuer rational for killing Dinka men and enslaving Dinka women. But Evans-Pritchard failed to understand why the Nuer invariably killed Dinka infants and children. The Nuer warrior’s laconic reply was, “Nits grow into lice.” Perhaps we have something to learn from these people after all.

  26. “The African-Australian Community Taskforce was announced by Victoria Police last month following a spate several years of crimes involving African youth.”

    Andrew Bolt writes a lot about this. Things must be getting really bad for the Victorian gov’t to have actually acknowledged the existence of a problem.

    As for those wondering about the effect this immigration might be having on Victoria’s aboriginal population:

    1. Nobody in Australia gives a fuck what Aboriginals think, least of all people who claim to care about their plight.

    2. If Aboriginals were complaining about being supplanted by African immigrants – and I don’t know that they are (see 1) – then these complaints would be carefully ignored by right-on Melbournites. If forced to acknowledge the conflict between multiculturalism and Aboriginal interests, I dare say they would square the circle by accusing the Aboriginals of internalising white hatreds or some such rubbish.

    3. Victoria actually has the smallest Aborginal population per capita of any Australian state. (0.6%, compared to a national average of 2.5%.) This does not stop them from being perhaps the most self-righteously pro-Aborigine, pro-multiculturalism, etc.

    Regarding the last point, I do wonder whether the two things are connected, i.e., perhaps they felt the need to import Africans because they didn’t have enough Aboriginals? This idea doesn’t hold much water, since immigration is a federal concern.

    I tell you what does hold water, though: the idea that they’re all a bunch of smug wankers over there. Here’s comic Brendon Burns:

    “They look down their nose at the rest of Australia like they’re so fucking right-on. And you think, like, how dare you? They’ve got like five Aboriginals left because they were the best at culling, and then they have the audacity to say shit like, ‘Aren’t people racist in Darwin?’”

    [Darwin is the capital of the Northern Territory, Aboriginal population 31.6%.]

    Couldn’t find a clip of that, but here’s a similar one.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    and then they have the audacity to say shit like, ‘Aren’t people racist in Darwin?’”
     
    Just naming a place "Darwin" is racist.

    Is there a Galton in Australia? There is one in Illinois, in Douglas County, about which Wikipedia has to say

    Despite its long-time Republican leanings, Hillary Clinton’s 2016 performance of gaining a mere 23.8 percent of the county’s vote stands over six percent worse than any Democrat since the Civil War.
    , @silviosilver

    1. Nobody in Australia gives a fuck what Aboriginals think, least of all people who claim to care about their plight.
     
    That's an obvious exaggeration, but it is indeed interesting - to those who notice these things - how little Australians generally care about what Aborigines think. Claiming to be oh so concerned about Aborigines makes for great symbolic politics - plenty of morally ostentatious academics are in the habit of commencing a lecture or speech by 'acknowledging' Aborigines as the 'traditional owners of this land' - but I'm constantly surprised by how willing even some of their most committed supporters are to ignore Aborigines in real life, or even mock them.

    Actually, I bet a considerable proportion of Australians would not be able to name a single non-football Aborigine. Just thinking about it (and it took a couple of minutes), I could only name four: Evonne Goolagong, Lionel Rose, Cathy Freeman and Albert Namatjira. Virtually every Australian would at some point have heard of the first three (whether they could recall the names without being reminded is another issue), and probably only older Australians the fourth. There's nothing like a charismatic MLK figure here that everyone can instantly recall (and claim to love).
  27. @rogue-one
    >I’m mean, what else could Australia possibly do to keep from having more and more Dinka and Nuer crime in Melbourne? Not let in so many Dinkas and Nuers?

    What about my diversity? I don't want pale, stale, law abiding, and boring whites. I want some tax subsidized, exotic, exciting ethnic warfare.

    I want some tax subsidized, exotic, exciting ethnic warfare.

    You forgot to mention restaurants.

    • Replies: @Escher
    I like my matzoh balls and pastrami on rye.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    You forgot to mention restaurants.
     
    Or food trucks. Or street vendors.

    https://goo.gl/images/tTxSmH

    https://goo.gl/images/qPSW7L
  28. The Victoria Police should have borrowed this idea from the UN. Regardless, it is pretty easy to tell them apart.

    http://webservice.emaze.com/convert/[email protected]&w=1200&h=675&imgW=1200

    • Replies: @rogue-one
    Even better:

    Dinka -> Left side of camp in Africa
    Nuer -> Right side of camp in Africa

    None in Australia.

  29. @Hubbub
    Hamilton is white history done in blackface; Wakanda is whitish society done in blackface.

    I guess they researched the name?

    Wakanda:

    Grow up – Chichewa, Sesotho, Shona, Swahili, Xhosa, Zulu
    That is – Hausa, Hawaiian, Igbo, Maori, Samoan, Yoruba
    In case – Hmong, Somali, Tajik
    Able to – Kurdish, Nepali, Pashto, Sindhi
    Wandering – Bengali
    Effective – Tamil
    Widespread – Urdu
    Wake career – Turkish

  30. A taskforce of African community leaders set up to help Victoria Police deal with Melbourne’s youth crime problem is yet to choose its members because of tribal divisions, according to the chief commissioner.

    So, they fled their sh*thole countries only to turn their new homeland into a crime-ridden sh*thole. Who would have thought?!
    In the eyes of White liberals countries exists and function independently from the population. And the reason why standards of living/education/personal safety/etc/etc/etc are so low because of invisible White racism, colonialism or pure coincidence. Rampant corruption, rapes, homicides, honor killings … people in Salvador, Pakistan, Sudan, Somalia etc have nothing to do with this, it’s all fault of Whitey.

  31. @songbird
    South Sudan tangentially evokes one of my favorite liberal myths. Belgians caused the Rwandan Genocide. They brainwashed the Hutu to kill the Tutsi. Before Europeans, the different tribes were one, peaceful tribe.

    Guys like Clooney believe it.

    I listened as two British citizens (BAME) – one a broadcaster – agreed that the British Empire was uniquely evil because not only did it invade countries but it also brainwashed the entire world and the African continent has yet to recover it’s true pre-colonial/capitalist socialist nature.

  32. One advantage of all the virtue signaling that has taken place with regards to diversity and the this-or-that country or institution is too white schtick, is that if and when our societies ever come to their senses, there will be a lot of people who will have no place to hide and will effectively be convicted by their own words.

    I just hope I am around long enough to see some of the most egregious virtual signalers frog-marched to their fate.

    • Replies: @rogue-one
    I am not so sure. Most elites (actual elites who possess material wealth and/or power in our society) live in highly segregated (mostly white/asian or at least high income), well-policed neighborhoods. Their kids go to private or really good public schools. Never underestimate the hypocrisy of elites.

    Example: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/05/04/samantha-bees-husband-opposed-integration-local-public-school/
    "Samantha Bee’s Husband Opposed to More Integration in Local Public School"

    Though I am sure the voters of Democrats in the US (& similar parties in Europe) will not be able escape the dystopia they are creating or at least voting to create.
  33. @International Jew

    I want some tax subsidized, exotic, exciting ethnic warfare.
     
    You forgot to mention restaurants.

    I like my matzoh balls and pastrami on rye.

  34. As a member of a shrinking ethnic group (Australian born, of exclusively British ancestry) I have to say that Australia’s ruling class of politicians, trade union bosses and civil servants is astoundingly gullible about matters relating to ethnicity and crime. In Victoria, which managed to get rid of its Aborigines 150 years ago, there is a flourishing industry of Aboriginal activists who are, by ancestry, an eighth (or less) Aboriginal, but who have succeeded in blackmailing the government for ever more privileges (and money). Aborigines commit a disproportionate number of crimes: in my home state Aborigines are less than three per cent of the population, but more than forty per cent of those in prison. The reason for their high crime rate is, of course, whitey.

    The African crime gangs of Melbourne have been in the news for several years, but the State Government has repeatedly denied that there is a problem.

    • Replies: @dfordoom

    I have to say that Australia’s ruling class of politicians, trade union bosses and civil servants is astoundingly gullible about matters relating to ethnicity and crime.
     
    They're not gullible, they're treacherous. Don't forget that these crimes don't happen in the nice streets in which ruling class people live.

    Our ruling class, like every other ruling class in the West, loathes and despises its own country and its own people. That's one of the ways they identify themselves as members of the elite. It serves as a membership badge and it makes them feel pleasantly superior.

    They're not destroying Australia out of incompetence. They're doing so out of malice.
  35. @donut
    "A taskforce of African community leaders set up to help Victoria Police deal with Melbourne’s youth crime problem is yet to choose its members because of tribal divisions, according to the chief commissioner."

    Any white man who lives in a majority black city will be familiar with this BS .

    Indeed. When Rahm closed a bunch of south side schools,under the wise leadership of one Barbara Byrd Bennett,now happily ensconced in jail , one of the loudest complaints was that the mixing of students from different defunct schools as well as students traveling thru different neighborhoods, would cause gang conflict,as members of one gang encountered other gangs.
    NOTE: We need an international movement to stop the importation of Afros!

  36. @Vox Australia
    As a member of a shrinking ethnic group (Australian born, of exclusively British ancestry) I have to say that Australia's ruling class of politicians, trade union bosses and civil servants is astoundingly gullible about matters relating to ethnicity and crime. In Victoria, which managed to get rid of its Aborigines 150 years ago, there is a flourishing industry of Aboriginal activists who are, by ancestry, an eighth (or less) Aboriginal, but who have succeeded in blackmailing the government for ever more privileges (and money). Aborigines commit a disproportionate number of crimes: in my home state Aborigines are less than three per cent of the population, but more than forty per cent of those in prison. The reason for their high crime rate is, of course, whitey.

    The African crime gangs of Melbourne have been in the news for several years, but the State Government has repeatedly denied that there is a problem.

    I have to say that Australia’s ruling class of politicians, trade union bosses and civil servants is astoundingly gullible about matters relating to ethnicity and crime.

    They’re not gullible, they’re treacherous. Don’t forget that these crimes don’t happen in the nice streets in which ruling class people live.

    Our ruling class, like every other ruling class in the West, loathes and despises its own country and its own people. That’s one of the ways they identify themselves as members of the elite. It serves as a membership badge and it makes them feel pleasantly superior.

    They’re not destroying Australia out of incompetence. They’re doing so out of malice.

  37. @International Jew

    I want some tax subsidized, exotic, exciting ethnic warfare.
     
    You forgot to mention restaurants.

    You forgot to mention restaurants.

    Or food trucks. Or street vendors.

    https://goo.gl/images/tTxSmH

    https://goo.gl/images/qPSW7L

  38. The mooted taskforce was originally to have 5 members from the ‘community’; all probably approved by the Marxist Victorian premier, Daniel Andrews. In order to accommodate the tribal concerns, the number is now proposed to be 50.

  39. @Matthew McConnagay
    "The African-Australian Community Taskforce was announced by Victoria Police last month following a spate several years of crimes involving African youth."

    Andrew Bolt writes a lot about this. Things must be getting really bad for the Victorian gov't to have actually acknowledged the existence of a problem.

    As for those wondering about the effect this immigration might be having on Victoria's aboriginal population:

    1. Nobody in Australia gives a fuck what Aboriginals think, least of all people who claim to care about their plight.

    2. If Aboriginals were complaining about being supplanted by African immigrants - and I don't know that they are (see 1) - then these complaints would be carefully ignored by right-on Melbournites. If forced to acknowledge the conflict between multiculturalism and Aboriginal interests, I dare say they would square the circle by accusing the Aboriginals of internalising white hatreds or some such rubbish.

    3. Victoria actually has the smallest Aborginal population per capita of any Australian state. (0.6%, compared to a national average of 2.5%.) This does not stop them from being perhaps the most self-righteously pro-Aborigine, pro-multiculturalism, etc.

    Regarding the last point, I do wonder whether the two things are connected, i.e., perhaps they felt the need to import Africans because they didn't have enough Aboriginals? This idea doesn't hold much water, since immigration is a federal concern.

    I tell you what does hold water, though: the idea that they're all a bunch of smug wankers over there. Here's comic Brendon Burns:

    "They look down their nose at the rest of Australia like they're so fucking right-on. And you think, like, how dare you? They've got like five Aboriginals left because they were the best at culling, and then they have the audacity to say shit like, 'Aren't people racist in Darwin?'"

    [Darwin is the capital of the Northern Territory, Aboriginal population 31.6%.]

    Couldn't find a clip of that, but here's a similar one.

    and then they have the audacity to say shit like, ‘Aren’t people racist in Darwin?’”

    Just naming a place “Darwin” is racist.

    Is there a Galton in Australia? There is one in Illinois, in Douglas County, about which Wikipedia has to say

    Despite its long-time Republican leanings, Hillary Clinton’s 2016 performance of gaining a mere 23.8 percent of the county’s vote stands over six percent worse than any Democrat since the Civil War.

  40. One turd is much like another.

  41. Anyone who seriously doubts the ‘myth’ about about the ‘vital’ anatomical endowment of black men should consult those old photos of Nuer men captured ‘from nature’ before the practice of wearing clothing – of any sort – became general amongst them (a mere generation or two ago).

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    Don't be coy! Post a link! For educational purposes, of course.
    , @Anonymous
    All blacks are not Nuers. SOME groups of blacks have statistically high numbers of those with big ones. And I have been told by those in a position to know such things that generally blacks tend not to grow very much in length and with when turgid, and also their erections are not as stiff. So they may appear huge when flaccid, but it isn't any different hard.

    My father was in the Dominican Republic and found out that Dominicans tended to be pretty big, not that he was looking to find out, but some things you can't not notice. Today, the DR along with Jamaica is famous for (generally old) female sex tourism-"In Search of The Big Bamboo" was a famous piece in a liberal literary magazine about it.
  42. I wonder what Australian Aborigines – if they can be bothered to have a political voice at all – think about mass African immigration into Australia?

    Do they identify with the dark skins or do they resent further interlopers and grudgingly cling to whites as the ‘devil they know’?

    • Replies: @Anon Australian
    Alot of pale skinned "aboriginal activists" in capital cities would buy into into this SJW nonsense.

    Full blooded aboriginals in Outback Australia, not so much. A lot of them are still tied up in their tribal-based culture and lack any sort of broader political awareness. There are two different cultural groups in the area where I live, they look the same, act the same and speak mutually intelligible languages, but constantly feud with each other. Pretty typical for tribe based cultures, I think.
    , @silviosilver
    Well, let me put it this way: every single Aborigine I've heard voice an opinion on the issue, either online or in real life, has supported African immigration. I haven't yet heard one oppose it. My guess is that it comes down to straight up anti-whitism.
  43. Won’t be long until Fair Dinka becomes the new Fair Dinkum.

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fair%20dinkum

  44. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Ed
    I don’t even understand why a country like Australia would even take refugees from Sudan? It makes no sense, why invite trouble? Australia is in a position where it can pick among the best why go shopping in the gutter?

    The ‘people’ behind this policy, just like the ones in America and Europe, are deliberately trying to wreck these societies. And they are succeeding.

    This is not hyperbole. Their goal is to remake all advanced white nations (redundant phrase) as third-world pissholes with a tiny, tribal elite controlling everything from their penthouses, boardrooms, and gated communities.

    If white people are allowed to control their own countries — and their own destinies — the “tribe” will be just another minority. An extremely wealthy, powerful minority, ’tis true, and that this is not good enough for them is telling.

  45. @El Dato
    Encyclopedia Briannica is strong on ethnocrud:

    By tradition, certain of their patrilineal clans provide priest-chiefs (“masters of the fishing spear”), whose position is validated by elaborate myths. Spiritual leadership and intervention are important to the Dinka, who are intensely religious and for whom God (Nhial) and many ancestral spirits play a central and intimate part in everyday life. Anything from a lie to a murder may be an occasion for sacrificial propitiation of the divine.
     
    Basically the Yougoslavia of Northern Africa:

    During the last two decades of the 20th century, when South Sudan was still part of Sudan, the Dinka’s traditional way of life was seriously threatened by the Khartoum-based government’s attempt to impose Islamic law on the non-Muslim south. The resulting civil war in Sudan pitted Arab militias against their customary rivals, particularly the Dinka. Conditions worsened as the Dinka and Nuer, both southern Sudanese, also turned against each other. In 1999, however, the Wunlit Dinka-Nuer Covenant was signed and a cease-fire instituted between the two southern ethnic groups. The larger civil war raged on until a Comprehensive Peace Agreement was signed in 2005.
     
    I remember that George Clooney was for some reason involved in this bordello.

    Okay, okay, I'm gonna clean the kitchen now.

    Pity they didn’t leave the Dinka in Sudan

    http://ukcommentators.blogspot.com/2006/11/sudan-incident-1909.html

    “I always did like the Dinkas. Happy, idle, contented people, with few wants and no cares, singing to their cattle in the sun. Stark naked and free by the river banks and singing to their cattle in the sun. All they wanted was to he left alone, just like everybody else.

    Nobody had ever been to see what happened to the north of the Post, between the Post and the River, which ran in a wrongly dotted line on a ‘provisional’ map. We vaguely knew that great plains stretched for miles in all directions and that there the Dinkas roamed about over the new-burnt pastures when the rains were over, driving their great flocks and herds northwards across the Lol up to the Bahr el Arab River. They gave no trouble to speak of and paid a ‘token’ cattle tax yearly to the Government which had never found time to go up and count their cattle.

    All very easy and everybody was quite happy. Then the Arabs started coming down from beyond the River to the north, and panic spread and grew with every raid over the plains, and the Dinkas fled before the Arab horsemen thundering over the hard burnt soil and took refuge on the fringe of the forest to the south. Poor, gentle, timid Dinkas, they just ran and ran till where the plains met the forest. The Arabs used to ride down like lightning from their country beyond the River, spearing anyone they met on their road who offered resistance, and recrossing the river with a mob of raided cattle driven before them and lithe naked Dinka girls strapped on to their great saddles behind them.

    So it went on. Something had to be done.

    So I was sent up to the Bahr el Arab, across the River Lol north of the Post. I and Shawish Kapsur, Almaz, Selim and Yambios – to meet Musa Madibo, the Sheikh of the Arabs. He lived in unadministered country and beyond reach of the law. Slatin arranged the meeting on the river.

    So I went up to the River and the shadow that was over the plains lifted and the Dinkas came forth again out of the protecting forest and drove their great bellowing herds back to pasture over the plains; singing to them by the rivers and lying in the sun.

    We stood and looked at the River. There was no sign of anybody on the banks.

    I said, ‘He ought to he here by now. We’ve had much further to go than he has.’

    Kapsur said: ‘You never can depend on Arabs.’ I said: ‘But the Pasha himself wrote to him and fixed the date.’

    ‘You can’t depend on Arabs.’

    I said, ‘Well, we can’t waste all day looking at the river waiting.’

    ‘It’s always waste of time to make a date with Arabs.’ That was Shawish Kapsur. He was a black heathen from somewhere or other – I forgot where. Some of our police came from the other side of Africa – kidnapped as children by Fellata pilgrims up Sokotu way and set free by us (with luck) in the Bahr el Ghazal.

    Shawish Kapsur was very brave. He once charged a charging elephant, shouting and waving his straw hat, and turned it. I watched him as I lay (exhausted) in the mud. All very long ago. But for Kapsur and his fantastic charge, I suppose I should still be under the mud, down Meshra way.

    I gave my mule to Selim to hold and wandered up the bank. Aimaz and Yambios were fishing. Shawish Kapsur came along with me.

    I was wondering how long I ought to stay, waiting for a man who might never come, who lived beyond reach of the law, whom nobody had ever seen, except perhaps Slatin in the old Mahdi days. And then there was a thunder of galloping hoofs and I was in the middle of a crowd of Arab horsemen who’d suddenly appeared from nowhere.

    I said: ‘Peace be upon you.’ I thought this was Sheikh Musa arriving with the usual Arab bluster and fantasia.

    But there was no reply. ‘And upon you the peace’ and nobody dismounted to greet the Governor’s representative on the river. All the Arabs carried the long dervish spear and a few of them had old Remington rifles. Then I noticed the leaf-shaped spear heads and some of them were red.

    Again I said, ‘El Salaam aleikum’ and still there was no response.

    I said, ‘I have come as arranged by the Pasha to make peace on the border. Where is Sheikh Musa?’

    Pax Britannica and all that. How fantastic!

    What should Arabs want with the peace when the finest sport in the world was to be had at the expense of the unbelieving dogs of Dinkas? Infidel and uncircumcised Dinkas, flaunting their shame before the pious Moslems. The ride through the night – the fording of the boundary river – the mad gallop over the plains – the chase of the slim, shrieking Dinka and the long spear piercing his shining naked back….

    The slender naked black girls lifted from the cattle posts and strapped, struggling, to the great saddles.

    The mob of cattle driven bellowing to the north…. The boasting of great deeds done that day, in the safety of the camp fires fifty miles away …

    There it was. They looked on it all from a slightly different angle. “

  46. @PiltdownMan
    The Victoria Police should have borrowed this idea from the UN. Regardless, it is pretty easy to tell them apart.

    http://hotinjuba.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/dinka-and-nuer.jpg

    http://webservice.emaze.com/convert/presentationTh[email protected]&w=1200&h=675&imgW=1200

    Even better:

    Dinka -> Left side of camp in Africa
    Nuer -> Right side of camp in Africa

    None in Australia.

  47. I grew up in Melbourne and can tell you that any person who has spent any time in the poorer Western suburbs of Melbourne, as I have, could see that this was going to be a big problem. I personally did some work in the down and out suburb of St Albans around 5 or 6 years ago- you’d walk past the local supermarket and there would be a group of around 20-50 Sudanese yoofs on any given day hanging around the front, drinking, fighting each other and committing other petty crimes, such as stealing said alcohol from a nearby liquor shop. I think the issue only really started to get traction once these said youths started targetting people from richer, whiter areas. Soft targets so to speak.

    The south east, especially Dandenong, which is already close to 80% non white, suffers from the same problems and is the ancestral homeland of the so called “Apex gang.”

    I’ve heard that there is even a substantial Sudanese population living in the Outback capital of Alice Springs. Even there, they are doing things like engaging in prostitution with young aboriginal girls in exchange for alcohol.
    If any of you were wondering whether, on the whole, the Aboriginal and Sudanese communities, being fellow dark skinned people, get along? In my experience the answer is no, not at all.

    They are newcomers who are still on average a couple of steps higher on the social totem pole than the average aborigine living in an outback town, which must be quite galling. That’s not to mention the fact that a huge amount of Sudanese immigrants seem to work as security guards. As such, they control access to the local take-away liquor stores….

  48. @Achmed E. Newman
    You know it's an island, right?

    Anyway, it should be easier for the Aussies than us, and I agree with the last three parts.

    By borders I mean physical, legal, virtual etc.

  49. @Nigerian Nationalist
    Pale, stale, law-abiding, and boring whites with the occasional serial murder and school shooting of course.

    Fair enough. I should have phrased it better to focus only on importing ethnic warfare.

  50. @istevefan
    One advantage of all the virtue signaling that has taken place with regards to diversity and the this-or-that country or institution is too white schtick, is that if and when our societies ever come to their senses, there will be a lot of people who will have no place to hide and will effectively be convicted by their own words.

    I just hope I am around long enough to see some of the most egregious virtual signalers frog-marched to their fate.

    I am not so sure. Most elites (actual elites who possess material wealth and/or power in our society) live in highly segregated (mostly white/asian or at least high income), well-policed neighborhoods. Their kids go to private or really good public schools. Never underestimate the hypocrisy of elites.

    Example: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/05/04/samantha-bees-husband-opposed-integration-local-public-school/
    “Samantha Bee’s Husband Opposed to More Integration in Local Public School”

    Though I am sure the voters of Democrats in the US (& similar parties in Europe) will not be able escape the dystopia they are creating or at least voting to create.

  51. @Lurker
    Close the borders, deport the invaders, crush the traitors. And reinstate the White Australia policy.

    What about those who aren’t white, are law abiding legal migrants & their descendants, and who are positively contributing to the society?

  52. @Anonymous
    I wonder what Australian Aborigines - if they can be bothered to have a political voice at all - think about mass African immigration into Australia?

    Do they identify with the dark skins or do they resent further interlopers and grudgingly cling to whites as the 'devil they know'?

    Alot of pale skinned “aboriginal activists” in capital cities would buy into into this SJW nonsense.

    Full blooded aboriginals in Outback Australia, not so much. A lot of them are still tied up in their tribal-based culture and lack any sort of broader political awareness. There are two different cultural groups in the area where I live, they look the same, act the same and speak mutually intelligible languages, but constantly feud with each other. Pretty typical for tribe based cultures, I think.

  53. @Nigerian Nationalist
    Pale, stale, law-abiding, and boring whites with the occasional serial murder and school shooting of course.

    Every ethnic group has a crime rate which holds fairly steady across environs.

    The crime rate you face depends largely around whom you live.

    Some places are better than others on the basis of the people that populate the place.

  54. @donut
    "A taskforce of African community leaders set up to help Victoria Police deal with Melbourne’s youth crime problem is yet to choose its members because of tribal divisions, according to the chief commissioner."

    Any white man who lives in a majority black city will be familiar with this BS .

    I laughed spontaneously (=right away) when I read your quote. I couldn’t help it. I hope you don’t mind. – Those lines are nigh perfect, thanks:

    “A taskforce of African community leaders set up to help Victoria Police deal with Melbourne’s youth crime problem is yet to choose its members because of tribal divisions, according to the chief commissioner.”

  55. @Anonymous
    I wonder what Australian Aborigines - if they can be bothered to have a political voice at all - think about mass African immigration into Australia?

    Do they identify with the dark skins or do they resent further interlopers and grudgingly cling to whites as the 'devil they know'?

    Well, let me put it this way: every single Aborigine I’ve heard voice an opinion on the issue, either online or in real life, has supported African immigration. I haven’t yet heard one oppose it. My guess is that it comes down to straight up anti-whitism.

  56. @Matthew McConnagay
    "The African-Australian Community Taskforce was announced by Victoria Police last month following a spate several years of crimes involving African youth."

    Andrew Bolt writes a lot about this. Things must be getting really bad for the Victorian gov't to have actually acknowledged the existence of a problem.

    As for those wondering about the effect this immigration might be having on Victoria's aboriginal population:

    1. Nobody in Australia gives a fuck what Aboriginals think, least of all people who claim to care about their plight.

    2. If Aboriginals were complaining about being supplanted by African immigrants - and I don't know that they are (see 1) - then these complaints would be carefully ignored by right-on Melbournites. If forced to acknowledge the conflict between multiculturalism and Aboriginal interests, I dare say they would square the circle by accusing the Aboriginals of internalising white hatreds or some such rubbish.

    3. Victoria actually has the smallest Aborginal population per capita of any Australian state. (0.6%, compared to a national average of 2.5%.) This does not stop them from being perhaps the most self-righteously pro-Aborigine, pro-multiculturalism, etc.

    Regarding the last point, I do wonder whether the two things are connected, i.e., perhaps they felt the need to import Africans because they didn't have enough Aboriginals? This idea doesn't hold much water, since immigration is a federal concern.

    I tell you what does hold water, though: the idea that they're all a bunch of smug wankers over there. Here's comic Brendon Burns:

    "They look down their nose at the rest of Australia like they're so fucking right-on. And you think, like, how dare you? They've got like five Aboriginals left because they were the best at culling, and then they have the audacity to say shit like, 'Aren't people racist in Darwin?'"

    [Darwin is the capital of the Northern Territory, Aboriginal population 31.6%.]

    Couldn't find a clip of that, but here's a similar one.

    1. Nobody in Australia gives a fuck what Aboriginals think, least of all people who claim to care about their plight.

    That’s an obvious exaggeration, but it is indeed interesting – to those who notice these things – how little Australians generally care about what Aborigines think. Claiming to be oh so concerned about Aborigines makes for great symbolic politics – plenty of morally ostentatious academics are in the habit of commencing a lecture or speech by ‘acknowledging’ Aborigines as the ‘traditional owners of this land’ – but I’m constantly surprised by how willing even some of their most committed supporters are to ignore Aborigines in real life, or even mock them.

    Actually, I bet a considerable proportion of Australians would not be able to name a single non-football Aborigine. Just thinking about it (and it took a couple of minutes), I could only name four: Evonne Goolagong, Lionel Rose, Cathy Freeman and Albert Namatjira. Virtually every Australian would at some point have heard of the first three (whether they could recall the names without being reminded is another issue), and probably only older Australians the fourth. There’s nothing like a charismatic MLK figure here that everyone can instantly recall (and claim to love).

    • Replies: @Matthew McConnagay
    You forgot Ernie Dingo!

    Myself, I only recognise one of the names you mentioned.

    As for traditional ownership - isn't it funny how traditional ownership never extends as far as returning the land?

    If it was stolen, and the intervening years haven't nullified that crime, and the descendents of the original victims still have a claim to the land - then surely the right thing to do is to give it back. Somehow nobody has the true strength of their convictions, though. I brought this up with someone once, and the (pained, uncomfortable) response was that, hey, if it makes them feel better, why not throw them a bone?

    Which goes to demonstrate my point: nobody cares what they think. Don't you think it might not make Aboriginals "feel better" to be told that they have a valid moral claim to ownership of some land, but they can't actually exercise any property rights in regard to it?

    "Yes, I stole this chocolate bar from you. It was very wrong of me: truly, you are its true owner, and I acknowledge that. Now watch while I eat it in front of you."

    Of course, it's not really about making Aboriginals feel better, it's about making right-on white Australians feel better. The only time Aboriginal policy is ever a vote winner is for a feel-good empty gesture like Rudd's apology.
  57. Why is it always the Africans who destroy anyplace they are allowed to settle? Look at the rampant knife crime in London? Who is behind this? Clue: it ain’t Cockneys. Gangs terrorising a Dublin suberb suburb and none of them have red hair and freckles. And why do places like Sweden and Italy suddenly have a rape elidemic? (No, a tonne of Viagra wasn’t accidentally dropped into their respective water supplies) Incidentally, which neighbourhoods in the US have the highest crime rates? Can anybody guess what the Common.Denominator is in all these scenarios?

    • Replies: @Mishima Zaibatsu
    Indeed, and in every country where this is happening, it's looked upon by politicians as some isolated problem that is the fault of the wider population, society and the police. We’re not supposed to notice that wherever there are blacks there are “bad relations” and "mistrust" between "the community" and law enforcement yet somehow we're meant to believe biased policing tactics are at fault.

    Look at Sweden for instance:

    “Suburb of Violence” was held over the weekend at Rinkeby Square where residents, along with artists and commentators, gathered to present MPs with a list of demands for action to solve the violence and social problems plaguing the migrant-dominated suburb.

    The demonstration was called in response to rising violence in the area which has seen 22 murders in less than two years, three of which took place in recent weeks.

    Kitimbwa Sabuni, from the ‘Afro Swedes Risk Association’, said “colonial logic” is to blame for unemployment, substance abuse, and violent crime in migrant communities living in Sweden.

    “We came to Europe because European colonialism made it impossible for us to survive with dignity in our countries of origin. But the colonial logic followed us here. We were sent to the suburbs, which became the new colonies.”

    Sabuni told activists that along with Black Lives Matter in the U.S., ethnic minorities in cities across Europe are mired in violence and unemployment because colonialism is still ongoing, and urged them to rise up against the oppressors.

    Despite housing just 3.9 per cent of Stockholm’s population, Järva, which consists of the Rinkeby, Kista, Spånga, and Tensta districts, accounted for 40 per cent of all violent crime in the capital in the last year.

    Spokesman for the group, Marcella De La Cerda, slammed what she perceives as inaction by Swedish authorities to prevent violence in Järva, but also called for a reduction in police presence, which she argues “increases the feeling of stigmatisation” in the suburbs.

    She said: “If we had seen that 22 children had died in an area where white people live, the reactions [from the authorities] would have been completely different.”

    However, De La Cerda said police patrols are counterproductive because they “signal to children and young people that society sees them as criminals who should be guarded”.

    Instead, Suburb of Violence are calling for politicians to provide “jobs, housing and schools”, invest in more psychosocial workers and psychiatrists, and for gun laws to be made even more restrictive.
     
  58. @songbird
    South Sudan tangentially evokes one of my favorite liberal myths. Belgians caused the Rwandan Genocide. They brainwashed the Hutu to kill the Tutsi. Before Europeans, the different tribes were one, peaceful tribe.

    Guys like Clooney believe it.

    Songbird, I stopped reading a book on the Iroquois people in NY because the authors claim that before the Revolutionary War the Mohawks and the Senecas, who chose different sides, hadn’t fought in centuries. Hell, I know dozens of Senecas and Mohawks and they still don’t like each other.

  59. Look at every major US city that has a high rate of black on black crime, such as Chicago, St. Louis, Detroit, Memphis, Baltimore, Cleveland and you will find a group of blacks, partnered with SJWs in an organization dedicated to eliminating inter gang (tribe) violence. They often have names, such as Buffalo’s “Stop the Violence Coalition” and they fail at every turn. Nice logos and jackets though.

  60. There’s a famous quote attributed to Stalin: “no man, no problem”

    While he would have liquidated them….I day round em up & deport them back to their country of origin….

  61. @donut
    "A taskforce of African community leaders set up to help Victoria Police deal with Melbourne’s youth crime problem is yet to choose its members because of tribal divisions, according to the chief commissioner."

    Any white man who lives in a majority black city will be familiar with this BS .

    … good Lord — yet another ready made criminal underclass, imported intact and losing no time in sapping the resources and patience of the generous Anglosphere host …

  62. @Clyde
    What possessed even the stupidest of the stupidest of dogooder Australians to bring in the Afriques ?
    The simplest solution if you want third world immigration without the crime is to deport immediate families of criminals.
    Africans are family and clan based so this will work. They wnat need crave to live in the West so drive them of this

    … to live in the Anglosphere – yes … but more importantly to be subsidised by the Anglos …

  63. Me with 110 IQ gets to it succinctly, something the high IQ dopes never do:

  64. The best thing that could happen to Australia, and many other European Christian nations, would be the collapse of the Chinese Communist Party. Australia is being overrun with Asians, Africans and Muslims from all over.

    The resource cartel that is Australia will begin deporting the non-Europeans when Australia stops exporting dug up stuff to the Chinese Communist Party. When China implodes due to its massive credit bubble, that is when the antipodeans will look around and see all the frigging foreigners making their lives hell.

    Two billion dollars for that hotel in Manhattan? How much have the Chinese inflated the real estate bubble in Australia? We’re about to find out.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    They would have been far better off to ban or restrict exports of raw material and build industrial jobs to make goods for export. Australia's "I'm all right, Jack" union culture was a deterrent to that, though.
    , @Anonymous
    I've been hearing tales of the 'imminent Chinese collapse' for nigh on 40 years now.
    Stopped holding my breath.
  65. @Anonymous
    Anyone who seriously doubts the 'myth' about about the 'vital' anatomical endowment of black men should consult those old photos of Nuer men captured 'from nature' before the practice of wearing clothing - of any sort - became general amongst them (a mere generation or two ago).

    Don’t be coy! Post a link! For educational purposes, of course.

  66. @Nigerian Nationalist
    Pale, stale, law-abiding, and boring whites with the occasional serial murder and school shooting of course.

    The threat of school shootings doesn’t seem to put migrants off from coming to America, does it?

  67. I mean, what else could Australia possibly do to keep from having more and more Dinka and Nuer crime in Melbourne?

    Not let in so many Dinkas and Nuers?

    Midnight sportsball? It’s worked a charm in Chicongo hasn’t it?

  68. @silviosilver

    1. Nobody in Australia gives a fuck what Aboriginals think, least of all people who claim to care about their plight.
     
    That's an obvious exaggeration, but it is indeed interesting - to those who notice these things - how little Australians generally care about what Aborigines think. Claiming to be oh so concerned about Aborigines makes for great symbolic politics - plenty of morally ostentatious academics are in the habit of commencing a lecture or speech by 'acknowledging' Aborigines as the 'traditional owners of this land' - but I'm constantly surprised by how willing even some of their most committed supporters are to ignore Aborigines in real life, or even mock them.

    Actually, I bet a considerable proportion of Australians would not be able to name a single non-football Aborigine. Just thinking about it (and it took a couple of minutes), I could only name four: Evonne Goolagong, Lionel Rose, Cathy Freeman and Albert Namatjira. Virtually every Australian would at some point have heard of the first three (whether they could recall the names without being reminded is another issue), and probably only older Australians the fourth. There's nothing like a charismatic MLK figure here that everyone can instantly recall (and claim to love).

    You forgot Ernie Dingo!

    Myself, I only recognise one of the names you mentioned.

    As for traditional ownership – isn’t it funny how traditional ownership never extends as far as returning the land?

    If it was stolen, and the intervening years haven’t nullified that crime, and the descendents of the original victims still have a claim to the land – then surely the right thing to do is to give it back. Somehow nobody has the true strength of their convictions, though. I brought this up with someone once, and the (pained, uncomfortable) response was that, hey, if it makes them feel better, why not throw them a bone?

    Which goes to demonstrate my point: nobody cares what they think. Don’t you think it might not make Aboriginals “feel better” to be told that they have a valid moral claim to ownership of some land, but they can’t actually exercise any property rights in regard to it?

    “Yes, I stole this chocolate bar from you. It was very wrong of me: truly, you are its true owner, and I acknowledge that. Now watch while I eat it in front of you.”

    Of course, it’s not really about making Aboriginals feel better, it’s about making right-on white Australians feel better. The only time Aboriginal policy is ever a vote winner is for a feel-good empty gesture like Rudd’s apology.

    • Replies: @silviosilver

    You forgot Ernie Dingo!
     
    Lol, so I did. (Stan Grant is another name that came to me after I posted.)

    If Australians were like Americans in considering it important to imagine themselves having a good, black friend, I reckon the inoffensive, always grinning Ernie Dingo would be at the top of the list.

    Which goes to demonstrate my point: nobody cares what they think. Don’t you think it might not make Aboriginals “feel better” to be told that they have a valid moral claim to ownership of some land, but they can’t actually exercise any property rights in regard to it?
     
    Well, I disagree with this in that I that I believe that, when it comes to this issue, a lot of Australians do care what Aborigines think: many to this day are dead set against recognizing Aboriginal land rights. That recognition has more than symbolic value in that a series of court decisions eventually led to the landmark 'Native Title Act.' Although the furor surrounding it seems to have died down, it can still provoke some extreme reactions among reflexively anti-Aborigine Australians.

    One interpretation of the constant references to 'the traditional owners of this land' rhetoric is a lot more sinister than the symbolism/moral preening interpretation: that it's all a prelude to actually handing over huge swathes of territory to Aborigines, or to forcing us to pay them for it. In other words, first softening us up by getting us to agree symbolically that it's their land, and then using that agreement to morally persuade us to legally recognize their claims. That's the interpretation I incline towards, that all this moral preening is more insidious than it appears at first glance - although, that said, my own habit is to laugh at it rather than dread it when I see/hear it.

    Otherwise, yes, I definitely agree with you that the precious few people really pay any serious attention to Aboriginal whinging - as I said, even some people who make a big show of saying all the right things about 'dispossession' and 'invasion' etc.

    A good example is this waitress I know. Her facebook is chock full of pro-Abo sentiment. Well, I'm at her work one evening, and this Abo has met this African guy, and then they're chatting away. My friend walks over to them to ask if they'd like a drink, and this Abo starts going off about how he and the African guy are 'coloured people' - not really making any point, just blabbing away. My friend (ultra blonde) goes, "Yeah, I'm really pale, hahahaha", probably unable to think how else to respond to that bizarre remark. As she walked by me she rolled her eyes at me about them. This not the kind of girl I can get away with my usual 'casual racism' in speech, unless I'm looking for a fight - she really jumps down my throat when I say things like that - so I thought her reaction was kinda interesting, and confirms your remark about people generally not caring what Abos think.
    , @dfordoom

    Of course, it’s not really about making Aboriginals feel better, it’s about making right-on white Australians feel better.
     
    Up until the 1970s I think that the overwhelming majority of white Australians sincerely wanted to see the lives of the Aboriginals improved. And in fact government policy up to that point had been moderately successful in doing just that. It was not a political issue.

    Then in the 70s it became a political issue. It became a major cause for trendy inner city-dwelling ABC-watching virtue-signalling whites looking for an issue with which to attack ordinary Australians. And in the 1970s there was the rise of professional Aboriginal activists (often remarkably blonde and blue-eyed) whose demands were increasingly strident and at the same time increasingly unrealistic. And whose demands really had very little to do with the actual lives of actual Aboriginal people.
  69. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Anyone who seriously doubts the 'myth' about about the 'vital' anatomical endowment of black men should consult those old photos of Nuer men captured 'from nature' before the practice of wearing clothing - of any sort - became general amongst them (a mere generation or two ago).

    All blacks are not Nuers. SOME groups of blacks have statistically high numbers of those with big ones. And I have been told by those in a position to know such things that generally blacks tend not to grow very much in length and with when turgid, and also their erections are not as stiff. So they may appear huge when flaccid, but it isn’t any different hard.

    My father was in the Dominican Republic and found out that Dominicans tended to be pretty big, not that he was looking to find out, but some things you can’t not notice. Today, the DR along with Jamaica is famous for (generally old) female sex tourism-”In Search of The Big Bamboo” was a famous piece in a liberal literary magazine about it.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    I can see why both of you are anonymous.
  70. @Charles Pewitt
    The best thing that could happen to Australia, and many other European Christian nations, would be the collapse of the Chinese Communist Party. Australia is being overrun with Asians, Africans and Muslims from all over.

    The resource cartel that is Australia will begin deporting the non-Europeans when Australia stops exporting dug up stuff to the Chinese Communist Party. When China implodes due to its massive credit bubble, that is when the antipodeans will look around and see all the frigging foreigners making their lives hell.

    Two billion dollars for that hotel in Manhattan? How much have the Chinese inflated the real estate bubble in Australia? We're about to find out.

    They would have been far better off to ban or restrict exports of raw material and build industrial jobs to make goods for export. Australia’s “I’m all right, Jack” union culture was a deterrent to that, though.

  71. @Kat Grey
    Why is it always the Africans who destroy anyplace they are allowed to settle? Look at the rampant knife crime in London? Who is behind this? Clue: it ain't Cockneys. Gangs terrorising a Dublin suberb suburb and none of them have red hair and freckles. And why do places like Sweden and Italy suddenly have a rape elidemic? (No, a tonne of Viagra wasn't accidentally dropped into their respective water supplies) Incidentally, which neighbourhoods in the US have the highest crime rates? Can anybody guess what the Common.Denominator is in all these scenarios?

    Indeed, and in every country where this is happening, it’s looked upon by politicians as some isolated problem that is the fault of the wider population, society and the police. We’re not supposed to notice that wherever there are blacks there are “bad relations” and “mistrust” between “the community” and law enforcement yet somehow we’re meant to believe biased policing tactics are at fault.

    Look at Sweden for instance:

    “Suburb of Violence” was held over the weekend at Rinkeby Square where residents, along with artists and commentators, gathered to present MPs with a list of demands for action to solve the violence and social problems plaguing the migrant-dominated suburb.

    The demonstration was called in response to rising violence in the area which has seen 22 murders in less than two years, three of which took place in recent weeks.

    Kitimbwa Sabuni, from the ‘Afro Swedes Risk Association’, said “colonial logic” is to blame for unemployment, substance abuse, and violent crime in migrant communities living in Sweden.

    “We came to Europe because European colonialism made it impossible for us to survive with dignity in our countries of origin. But the colonial logic followed us here. We were sent to the suburbs, which became the new colonies.”

    Sabuni told activists that along with Black Lives Matter in the U.S., ethnic minorities in cities across Europe are mired in violence and unemployment because colonialism is still ongoing, and urged them to rise up against the oppressors.

    Despite housing just 3.9 per cent of Stockholm’s population, Järva, which consists of the Rinkeby, Kista, Spånga, and Tensta districts, accounted for 40 per cent of all violent crime in the capital in the last year.

    Spokesman for the group, Marcella De La Cerda, slammed what she perceives as inaction by Swedish authorities to prevent violence in Järva, but also called for a reduction in police presence, which she argues “increases the feeling of stigmatisation” in the suburbs.

    She said: “If we had seen that 22 children had died in an area where white people live, the reactions [from the authorities] would have been completely different.”

    However, De La Cerda said police patrols are counterproductive because they “signal to children and young people that society sees them as criminals who should be guarded”.

    Instead, Suburb of Violence are calling for politicians to provide “jobs, housing and schools”, invest in more psychosocial workers and psychiatrists, and for gun laws to be made even more restrictive.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
    God that infuriates me like nothing else on earth. It's the moral duty of every non-black in the world to fight back against this insanity - else it will envelop us all.
  72. @Charles Pewitt
    The best thing that could happen to Australia, and many other European Christian nations, would be the collapse of the Chinese Communist Party. Australia is being overrun with Asians, Africans and Muslims from all over.

    The resource cartel that is Australia will begin deporting the non-Europeans when Australia stops exporting dug up stuff to the Chinese Communist Party. When China implodes due to its massive credit bubble, that is when the antipodeans will look around and see all the frigging foreigners making their lives hell.

    Two billion dollars for that hotel in Manhattan? How much have the Chinese inflated the real estate bubble in Australia? We're about to find out.

    I’ve been hearing tales of the ‘imminent Chinese collapse’ for nigh on 40 years now.
    Stopped holding my breath.

  73. @Matthew McConnagay
    You forgot Ernie Dingo!

    Myself, I only recognise one of the names you mentioned.

    As for traditional ownership - isn't it funny how traditional ownership never extends as far as returning the land?

    If it was stolen, and the intervening years haven't nullified that crime, and the descendents of the original victims still have a claim to the land - then surely the right thing to do is to give it back. Somehow nobody has the true strength of their convictions, though. I brought this up with someone once, and the (pained, uncomfortable) response was that, hey, if it makes them feel better, why not throw them a bone?

    Which goes to demonstrate my point: nobody cares what they think. Don't you think it might not make Aboriginals "feel better" to be told that they have a valid moral claim to ownership of some land, but they can't actually exercise any property rights in regard to it?

    "Yes, I stole this chocolate bar from you. It was very wrong of me: truly, you are its true owner, and I acknowledge that. Now watch while I eat it in front of you."

    Of course, it's not really about making Aboriginals feel better, it's about making right-on white Australians feel better. The only time Aboriginal policy is ever a vote winner is for a feel-good empty gesture like Rudd's apology.

    You forgot Ernie Dingo!

    Lol, so I did. (Stan Grant is another name that came to me after I posted.)

    If Australians were like Americans in considering it important to imagine themselves having a good, black friend, I reckon the inoffensive, always grinning Ernie Dingo would be at the top of the list.

    Which goes to demonstrate my point: nobody cares what they think. Don’t you think it might not make Aboriginals “feel better” to be told that they have a valid moral claim to ownership of some land, but they can’t actually exercise any property rights in regard to it?

    Well, I disagree with this in that I that I believe that, when it comes to this issue, a lot of Australians do care what Aborigines think: many to this day are dead set against recognizing Aboriginal land rights. That recognition has more than symbolic value in that a series of court decisions eventually led to the landmark ‘Native Title Act.’ Although the furor surrounding it seems to have died down, it can still provoke some extreme reactions among reflexively anti-Aborigine Australians.

    One interpretation of the constant references to ‘the traditional owners of this land’ rhetoric is a lot more sinister than the symbolism/moral preening interpretation: that it’s all a prelude to actually handing over huge swathes of territory to Aborigines, or to forcing us to pay them for it. In other words, first softening us up by getting us to agree symbolically that it’s their land, and then using that agreement to morally persuade us to legally recognize their claims. That’s the interpretation I incline towards, that all this moral preening is more insidious than it appears at first glance – although, that said, my own habit is to laugh at it rather than dread it when I see/hear it.

    Otherwise, yes, I definitely agree with you that the precious few people really pay any serious attention to Aboriginal whinging – as I said, even some people who make a big show of saying all the right things about ‘dispossession’ and ‘invasion’ etc.

    A good example is this waitress I know. Her facebook is chock full of pro-Abo sentiment. Well, I’m at her work one evening, and this Abo has met this African guy, and then they’re chatting away. My friend walks over to them to ask if they’d like a drink, and this Abo starts going off about how he and the African guy are ‘coloured people’ – not really making any point, just blabbing away. My friend (ultra blonde) goes, “Yeah, I’m really pale, hahahaha”, probably unable to think how else to respond to that bizarre remark. As she walked by me she rolled her eyes at me about them. This not the kind of girl I can get away with my usual ‘casual racism’ in speech, unless I’m looking for a fight – she really jumps down my throat when I say things like that – so I thought her reaction was kinda interesting, and confirms your remark about people generally not caring what Abos think.

  74. @Mishima Zaibatsu
    Indeed, and in every country where this is happening, it's looked upon by politicians as some isolated problem that is the fault of the wider population, society and the police. We’re not supposed to notice that wherever there are blacks there are “bad relations” and "mistrust" between "the community" and law enforcement yet somehow we're meant to believe biased policing tactics are at fault.

    Look at Sweden for instance:

    “Suburb of Violence” was held over the weekend at Rinkeby Square where residents, along with artists and commentators, gathered to present MPs with a list of demands for action to solve the violence and social problems plaguing the migrant-dominated suburb.

    The demonstration was called in response to rising violence in the area which has seen 22 murders in less than two years, three of which took place in recent weeks.

    Kitimbwa Sabuni, from the ‘Afro Swedes Risk Association’, said “colonial logic” is to blame for unemployment, substance abuse, and violent crime in migrant communities living in Sweden.

    “We came to Europe because European colonialism made it impossible for us to survive with dignity in our countries of origin. But the colonial logic followed us here. We were sent to the suburbs, which became the new colonies.”

    Sabuni told activists that along with Black Lives Matter in the U.S., ethnic minorities in cities across Europe are mired in violence and unemployment because colonialism is still ongoing, and urged them to rise up against the oppressors.

    Despite housing just 3.9 per cent of Stockholm’s population, Järva, which consists of the Rinkeby, Kista, Spånga, and Tensta districts, accounted for 40 per cent of all violent crime in the capital in the last year.

    Spokesman for the group, Marcella De La Cerda, slammed what she perceives as inaction by Swedish authorities to prevent violence in Järva, but also called for a reduction in police presence, which she argues “increases the feeling of stigmatisation” in the suburbs.

    She said: “If we had seen that 22 children had died in an area where white people live, the reactions [from the authorities] would have been completely different.”

    However, De La Cerda said police patrols are counterproductive because they “signal to children and young people that society sees them as criminals who should be guarded”.

    Instead, Suburb of Violence are calling for politicians to provide “jobs, housing and schools”, invest in more psychosocial workers and psychiatrists, and for gun laws to be made even more restrictive.
     

    God that infuriates me like nothing else on earth. It’s the moral duty of every non-black in the world to fight back against this insanity – else it will envelop us all.

  75. Former Immigration Minister Amanda Vanstone is the primary reason these South Sudanese are in Australia
    If you want sensible migration policy don’t give the job to a childless woman
    (Didn’t Leni Reifenstahl end up going thru a Dinka appreciation stage? )
    A previous Conservative Coalition Immigation Minister sought a moratorium on African immigration for the very sensible reason that the Africans were clearly struggling to cope in a first world country but was howled down by all the usual suspects
    You need tough politicians to stare down the contemporary lefty media .They are rare .

  76. @Achmed E. Newman
    You know it's an island, right?

    Anyway, it should be easier for the Aussies than us, and I agree with the last three parts.

    You know it’s an island, right?

    They used to have a land border with Indonesia. Papua New Guinea was for most of the 20th century effectively Australia’s Newfoundland and Puerto Rico.

    Queensland tried to annex it in the late 19th century, in much the same way some Southerners wanted to annex Cuba. There’s something about the hot sun that deteriorates the white man’s common sense.

    • Replies: @sb
    There was never an open border between PNG and Australia so your parallels are just wrong
    Where did you get this idea from?
    , @sb
    Further
    Queensland's desire was for Britain to annex Papua but Britain declined so Queenland discussed annexing it themselves
    It didn't happen
    The reason was concern over Imperial German expansionism more than any wish for more real estate
  77. @Anonymous
    All blacks are not Nuers. SOME groups of blacks have statistically high numbers of those with big ones. And I have been told by those in a position to know such things that generally blacks tend not to grow very much in length and with when turgid, and also their erections are not as stiff. So they may appear huge when flaccid, but it isn't any different hard.

    My father was in the Dominican Republic and found out that Dominicans tended to be pretty big, not that he was looking to find out, but some things you can't not notice. Today, the DR along with Jamaica is famous for (generally old) female sex tourism-"In Search of The Big Bamboo" was a famous piece in a liberal literary magazine about it.

    I can see why both of you are anonymous.

  78. @Matthew McConnagay
    You forgot Ernie Dingo!

    Myself, I only recognise one of the names you mentioned.

    As for traditional ownership - isn't it funny how traditional ownership never extends as far as returning the land?

    If it was stolen, and the intervening years haven't nullified that crime, and the descendents of the original victims still have a claim to the land - then surely the right thing to do is to give it back. Somehow nobody has the true strength of their convictions, though. I brought this up with someone once, and the (pained, uncomfortable) response was that, hey, if it makes them feel better, why not throw them a bone?

    Which goes to demonstrate my point: nobody cares what they think. Don't you think it might not make Aboriginals "feel better" to be told that they have a valid moral claim to ownership of some land, but they can't actually exercise any property rights in regard to it?

    "Yes, I stole this chocolate bar from you. It was very wrong of me: truly, you are its true owner, and I acknowledge that. Now watch while I eat it in front of you."

    Of course, it's not really about making Aboriginals feel better, it's about making right-on white Australians feel better. The only time Aboriginal policy is ever a vote winner is for a feel-good empty gesture like Rudd's apology.

    Of course, it’s not really about making Aboriginals feel better, it’s about making right-on white Australians feel better.

    Up until the 1970s I think that the overwhelming majority of white Australians sincerely wanted to see the lives of the Aboriginals improved. And in fact government policy up to that point had been moderately successful in doing just that. It was not a political issue.

    Then in the 70s it became a political issue. It became a major cause for trendy inner city-dwelling ABC-watching virtue-signalling whites looking for an issue with which to attack ordinary Australians. And in the 1970s there was the rise of professional Aboriginal activists (often remarkably blonde and blue-eyed) whose demands were increasingly strident and at the same time increasingly unrealistic. And whose demands really had very little to do with the actual lives of actual Aboriginal people.

  79. @Reg Cæsar

    You know it’s an island, right?
     
    They used to have a land border with Indonesia. Papua New Guinea was for most of the 20th century effectively Australia's Newfoundland and Puerto Rico.

    Queensland tried to annex it in the late 19th century, in much the same way some Southerners wanted to annex Cuba. There's something about the hot sun that deteriorates the white man's common sense.

    There was never an open border between PNG and Australia so your parallels are just wrong
    Where did you get this idea from?

  80. @Reg Cæsar

    You know it’s an island, right?
     
    They used to have a land border with Indonesia. Papua New Guinea was for most of the 20th century effectively Australia's Newfoundland and Puerto Rico.

    Queensland tried to annex it in the late 19th century, in much the same way some Southerners wanted to annex Cuba. There's something about the hot sun that deteriorates the white man's common sense.

    Further
    Queensland’s desire was for Britain to annex Papua but Britain declined so Queenland discussed annexing it themselves
    It didn’t happen
    The reason was concern over Imperial German expansionism more than any wish for more real estate

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