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From the San Francisco Chronicle:

4 fires, 4 arsons at half-done housing sites in Oakland

By Michael Bodley, San Francisco Chronicle July 7, 2017

The fire that consumed an apartment and retail complex being built near downtown Oakland on Friday wasn’t the first to rip through a half-finished housing development in the area in recent years. It was the fifth.

While the cause of the latest blaze is not known, all four of the previous fires — including two at one site on the Oakland-Emeryville border — have been ruled arson by the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, said agency spokeswoman Alexandria Corneiro.

 
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  1. 1. Why is the BATFE involved? Usually its local fire chiefs who rule whether things are arson or not. This says to me one of three things:
    a. The Oakland Fire Dep’t is so incompetent the feds have de facto taken over.
    b. There’s a larger federal involvement in Oakland on something non-fire related. I’m guessing terrorism, or perhaps a huge drug-gang-cartel investigation—there’s probably an investigation going on in the area, hence why the BATFE is giving its thoughts on the fire. Maybe the fires are somebody trying to cover their tracks?
    c. A little of (((“magic lightening”))) to get insurance money for a larger developer or two who is taking a bath.

    2. Perhaps the fires ARE terrorism, but the BATFE is covering for it claiming its just arson.

    3. Black rioters tend to start fires, as we learned from the 1960s. Perhaps BLM is lighting this fuse, so to speak?

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    • Replies: @Thomas

    1. Why is the BATFE involved? Usually its local fire chiefs who rule whether things are arson or not. This says to me one of three things:
    a. The Oakland Fire Dep’t is so incompetent the feds have de facto taken over.
     
    The BATFE has decent laboratory and scientific services (in part due to their subject matter coverage involving explosives) that they can lend their assistance to local fire and law enforcement investigations on request (similar to the FBI).

    I lived in Oakland for a number of years. It has a definite problem of spontaneous combustion of its buildings. There was a structure fire visible from I-580 as I was driving into the city for the first time, and a local restaurant near where I lived burned down in what was later determined to be arson after the owner started having trouble with his liquor license. The local courts right now are dealing with manslaughter prosecutions from the Ghost Ship fire there back in December, which was the deadliest structure fire in the entire country in more than a decade (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Oakland_warehouse_fire)

    As far as the Oakland Fire Department goes, here's their webpage on "Fire Incpections" (sic): http://www2.oaklandnet.com/government/o/OFD/s/Inspections/index.htm

    Oakland public services generally are pretty shambolic. The police department has been in effective crisis for most of the century, having gone through high turnover of chiefs, federal management under a consent decree, short staffing, and most recently a sex scandal involving several officers involved with a teenage prostitute. The Ghost Ship incident showed how diligent the building and fire inspection system isn't. When I lived there, it did have the charm of being a soft version of a anarcho-libertarian paradise if you were looking to kick the gong around a bit on a Friday night (drunk driving was essentially legal, for example, so long as you stayed off the CHP-patrolled highways, because there were so few cops on the streets that DUI enforcement was non-existent; International Boulevard through East Oakland is a major prostitution track that the police have had less success dealing with than private do-gooders).

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  2. Probably Eric Clanton types.

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    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
    Am I the only guy who at first glance saw "Probably Eric Clapton types"? Hmm,there's a puzzling comment.
  3. I wonder why ATF is involved? Is the affirmative action retarded Oakland fire department too busy filing discrimination complaints or something?

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  4. @whorefinder
    1. Why is the BATFE involved? Usually its local fire chiefs who rule whether things are arson or not. This says to me one of three things:
    a. The Oakland Fire Dep't is so incompetent the feds have de facto taken over.
    b. There's a larger federal involvement in Oakland on something non-fire related. I'm guessing terrorism, or perhaps a huge drug-gang-cartel investigation---there's probably an investigation going on in the area, hence why the BATFE is giving its thoughts on the fire. Maybe the fires are somebody trying to cover their tracks?
    c. A little of ((("magic lightening"))) to get insurance money for a larger developer or two who is taking a bath.

    2. Perhaps the fires ARE terrorism, but the BATFE is covering for it claiming its just arson.

    3. Black rioters tend to start fires, as we learned from the 1960s. Perhaps BLM is lighting this fuse, so to speak?

    1. Why is the BATFE involved? Usually its local fire chiefs who rule whether things are arson or not. This says to me one of three things:
    a. The Oakland Fire Dep’t is so incompetent the feds have de facto taken over.

    The BATFE has decent laboratory and scientific services (in part due to their subject matter coverage involving explosives) that they can lend their assistance to local fire and law enforcement investigations on request (similar to the FBI).

    I lived in Oakland for a number of years. It has a definite problem of spontaneous combustion of its buildings. There was a structure fire visible from I-580 as I was driving into the city for the first time, and a local restaurant near where I lived burned down in what was later determined to be arson after the owner started having trouble with his liquor license. The local courts right now are dealing with manslaughter prosecutions from the Ghost Ship fire there back in December, which was the deadliest structure fire in the entire country in more than a decade (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Oakland_warehouse_fire)

    As far as the Oakland Fire Department goes, here’s their webpage on “Fire Incpections” (sic): http://www2.oaklandnet.com/government/o/OFD/s/Inspections/index.htm

    Oakland public services generally are pretty shambolic. The police department has been in effective crisis for most of the century, having gone through high turnover of chiefs, federal management under a consent decree, short staffing, and most recently a sex scandal involving several officers involved with a teenage prostitute. The Ghost Ship incident showed how diligent the building and fire inspection system isn’t. When I lived there, it did have the charm of being a soft version of a anarcho-libertarian paradise if you were looking to kick the gong around a bit on a Friday night (drunk driving was essentially legal, for example, so long as you stayed off the CHP-patrolled highways, because there were so few cops on the streets that DUI enforcement was non-existent; International Boulevard through East Oakland is a major prostitution track that the police have had less success dealing with than private do-gooders).

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    • Replies: @Johan Schmidt
    Any society not fully indoctrinated by liberal-progressive dogma (perhaps a society of space aliens by this point) would consider us insane. Looking at this situation it would take them about ten seconds to ask "Why has the municipality not been annexed by a more successful polity?"
    , @eD
    "When I lived there, it did have the charm of being a soft version of a anarcho-libertarian paradise "

    I find this quite interesting. Other than the propensity of buildings burning to the ground, what are the other problems with this? You listed some of the advantages. I'd imagine its not great for house prices and street crime is higher than most people would like.
    , @bomag
    Thanks. First person accounts here are valuable.

    I suspect you have described the future for 80% of the country.
  5. Crime causes poverty, not the reverse.

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    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    Crime is certainly one of the causes of poverty.
  6. OT, but Charlie Gard’s* mother has just said on BBC radio that the intervention of Trump and the Pope is all that’s kept her son alive (“they’ve saved his life”).

    (* the UK baby with a genetic condition who the doctors want to kill ‘in the child’s best interests’, a ruling upheld by the UK and EU’s courts)

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    • Replies: @oddsbodkins
    Charlie Gard may have just enough brain function to feel pain. Trump and the Pope have helped make sure that pain goes on as long as is technologically possible.
    , @EdwardM
    The discussion about Charlie Gard has been around the rights of his parents versus those of the state to determine his fate, etc., but I haven't seen (granted I haven't dug deeply) any discussion of who is paying.

    Is the scenario that the U.K. government is literally ordering him killed/taken off life support, or that the state-funded medical system has decided that this is the course of action it will take as long as it's footing the bill? In other words, are the parents free to continue sustaining the poor lad's life -- or trying some of these experimental treatments -- if they want to bear the expense, or is the state actually barring them from doing so?

    Perhaps these two questions are synonymous when health care is provided on a monopoly basis by the government. And one could offer a legitimate opinion, I suppose, that a rich society should never deny life-extending treatment to a child regardless of cost. But I find it troubling that the media and opportunistic politicians on both sides of the Atlantic seem to transition seamlessly between the ideas that "the state shouldn't be allowed to 'kill' Charlie Gard" and "the taxpayers must fund a hopeless case indefinitely."

    (For example, the article I've linked is titled "Charlie Gard: UK judge gives parents two days to prove son should be kept alive" but doesn't append the words "at taxpayer expense"; indeed the article obscures the issues of funding.)
  7. @jackson
    Probably Eric Clanton types.

    Am I the only guy who at first glance saw “Probably Eric Clapton types”? Hmm,there’s a puzzling comment.

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    • Replies: @EriK

    Am I the only guy who at first glance saw “Probably Eric Clapton types”?
     
    I did the same thing. I amuse myself.
    , @Chrisnonymous
    I did too. I also saw Steve's recent post title as

    NYT: "Why Does Donald Trump Keep Kissing Jews?"
     
    , @Jim Don Bob
    I know who Eric Clapton is (God), but who is Eric Clanton?
  8. Reminds me of the Welsh nationalist group Meibion Glyndŵr who were concerned about the price of housing becoming unaffordable for the locals (Thus driving down birth rates forcing them to go to English cities and importing English speakers who would further harm the language) in the 1970s/1980s in the core zones of the Welsh language due to rich English-speakers buying holiday homes. They did this by torching cottages sold at a high price as holiday homes to an English speaker, particularly Englishmen.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meibion_Glynd%C5%B5r

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/north_west/8408447.stm

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    • Replies: @Guy de Champlagne
    In Cornwall, a Cornish Independence terrorist group just set an English celebrity chef's restaurant on fire

    https://uk.news.yahoo.com/cornish-terror-group-claims-responsibility-fire-rick-steins-restaurant-085705179.html
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    Alas, the cause of Meibion Glyndwr is irretrievably lost, not that I approve of house-burnings.

    Large parts of pretty rural villages (and sometimes whole hamlets) in Wales, especially on or near the coast, are almost empty of people outside school holiday time, as most of the houses are either owned by wealthy English (and used a few times a year) or owned by wealthy English (and let as holiday rentals).

    The absentee owner syndrome goes back a long way, but the effects have been compounded by a mass movement of the English from what were formerly their cities. You are as likely to hear Scouse as Welsh in the main streets of North Wales.

    , @Iain
    Come home to a real fire...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSrNF6bCB5Q&feature=youtu.be&t=1472
    , @eD
    This site has a pretty anti-immigration crowd, and I'm surprised there is not more sympathy for people who do a little border control themselves, in their own neighborhoods, when they can't get the government to do it.

    This is not meant to be trolling. If you live in Cornwall or Wales, in many respects there is not that much difference between Englishmen coming in and buying up all the properties and Pakistanis showing up. The English probably won't be Muslims or into child prostitution or cousin marriage of course. But the effects of pushing housing prices beyond the reach of what natives can afford, compelling the natives to re-locate is the same. Nor are they part of the local culture, in some places in Wales they don't even speak the local language.
    , @Lurker
    I've not heard of a Welsh house burning in years. Of course these days there is also a steady influx of more vibrant immigration and for some reason the sight of alien races and their cultural/religious practices do not stir the sons of Glyndŵr.

    It often seems as if the nationalisms of the British Isles were only there to divide the white population, they have nothing to say about the vibrancy or they actively welcome it.

  9. While the cause of the latest blaze is not known….

    Chinese lightning? Oakland, the land of OJ Simpson, is being purchased, little by little, by Chinese Americans and Chinese nationals. I dare you to rent an apartment in Oakland that doesn’t have a Chinese landlord. Not news, this has been going on for decades.

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    • Replies: @Flip
    I thought OJ was from Potrero in SF.
    , @Anon
    If you're just bought a piece of Oakland property and want to gentrify it cheaply, you insure it to the max and then torch it. Collect the payment, have a bulldozer scrape off the rubble, and then rebuild with your fresh, new insurance dollars. Minimum cost to you, maximum benefit. Unless you're caught, of course. However, if the local officials are corrupt and taking kickbacks from you, you're not likely to be caught. The new Chinese owners are probably thrilled about having to deal only with the greedy black officials who are part of the local Democratic political machine, and who cover up for each others' illegal bribe-taking. But if the Feds have moved in, it's because insurers have complained about systematic patterns of fraud, and the fact that they can't get justice from the local officials. Nonetheless, the Chinese may ensure that blacks are gone from Oakland in about a generation.
    , @athEIst
    the Chinese may ensure that blacks are gone from Oakland in about a generation.
    Mexicans can do it faster.
    , @Ivy
    Brazen real estate trend.
  10. @Altai
    Reminds me of the Welsh nationalist group Meibion Glyndŵr who were concerned about the price of housing becoming unaffordable for the locals (Thus driving down birth rates forcing them to go to English cities and importing English speakers who would further harm the language) in the 1970s/1980s in the core zones of the Welsh language due to rich English-speakers buying holiday homes. They did this by torching cottages sold at a high price as holiday homes to an English speaker, particularly Englishmen.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meibion_Glynd%C5%B5r
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/north_west/8408447.stm

    In Cornwall, a Cornish Independence terrorist group just set an English celebrity chef’s restaurant on fire

    https://uk.news.yahoo.com/cornish-terror-group-claims-responsibility-fire-rick-steins-restaurant-085705179.html

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  11. @Thomas

    1. Why is the BATFE involved? Usually its local fire chiefs who rule whether things are arson or not. This says to me one of three things:
    a. The Oakland Fire Dep’t is so incompetent the feds have de facto taken over.
     
    The BATFE has decent laboratory and scientific services (in part due to their subject matter coverage involving explosives) that they can lend their assistance to local fire and law enforcement investigations on request (similar to the FBI).

    I lived in Oakland for a number of years. It has a definite problem of spontaneous combustion of its buildings. There was a structure fire visible from I-580 as I was driving into the city for the first time, and a local restaurant near where I lived burned down in what was later determined to be arson after the owner started having trouble with his liquor license. The local courts right now are dealing with manslaughter prosecutions from the Ghost Ship fire there back in December, which was the deadliest structure fire in the entire country in more than a decade (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Oakland_warehouse_fire)

    As far as the Oakland Fire Department goes, here's their webpage on "Fire Incpections" (sic): http://www2.oaklandnet.com/government/o/OFD/s/Inspections/index.htm

    Oakland public services generally are pretty shambolic. The police department has been in effective crisis for most of the century, having gone through high turnover of chiefs, federal management under a consent decree, short staffing, and most recently a sex scandal involving several officers involved with a teenage prostitute. The Ghost Ship incident showed how diligent the building and fire inspection system isn't. When I lived there, it did have the charm of being a soft version of a anarcho-libertarian paradise if you were looking to kick the gong around a bit on a Friday night (drunk driving was essentially legal, for example, so long as you stayed off the CHP-patrolled highways, because there were so few cops on the streets that DUI enforcement was non-existent; International Boulevard through East Oakland is a major prostitution track that the police have had less success dealing with than private do-gooders).

    Any society not fully indoctrinated by liberal-progressive dogma (perhaps a society of space aliens by this point) would consider us insane. Looking at this situation it would take them about ten seconds to ask “Why has the municipality not been annexed by a more successful polity?”

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    • Replies: @BCR
    JS - why would anybody want to annex an that set of problems? Importing disease is not a good idea.
    , @Negrolphin Pool
    Why has the deceased junky's cirrhotic liver not been harvested?
    , @Mr. Rational

    “Why has the municipality not been annexed by a more successful polity?”
     
    Thus enfranchising the very voters who put in the pols who created Oakland's condition, but over THEIR area too.

    What Oakland needs is either an emergency manager able to rule by fiat, or a steep poll tax.
    , @Olorin
    The nearest-by "successful polity" would be what?

    And annexing Oakland would improve its success how?

    Though I trust you were being dryly ironic.

    Emeryville is hardly a "successful polity." It only exists as something other than a burned-over hellfield because of brownfield/infill development by employers over the past 20-30 years.

    IIRC, Emeryville has way more workers than residents. Which is a problem if you're one of those workers having to make ungodly commutes to more affordable outlying areas. From the city's perspective, you build employment...but then the tax base goes elsewhere.

    The border area where this and other similar fires has happened involves repeated arson of mixed-use developments for local workers.

    Apparently it counts as "gentrification" if your old Superfund site goes from being a toxics-laden seasonal swamp to cleaned-up land with housing for working people/families.

    Rick Holliday is one of the builders who has been trying to get nonprofit mixed-use developments built in this crappy part of Emeryville for years. According to his press statements, he interprets the arson as our host does, as a political attack.

    http://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Oakland-blaze-a-setback-for-city-plan-to-11272506.php

    If I were BATFE and the feds, I'd want to know who is hiring, coaching, encouraging, or shielding what appears to be solo black bloc type midnight ride-by arsonists who destroy construction sites at approximately the same stage each time. I'd also want to know why the developers don't have better site security, and I'd want to see everyone's insurance paperwork.

  12. The Oakland police are generally worthless. Many of the problems are listed above.

    I had an identity theft problem years ago while living in San Francisco. The address for the drop house in Emeryville showed up on my credit report. San Francisco PD said to go to Oakland PD. OPD said I was a SF resident, SF had to deal with it. Like SFPD was going to go bust an amateur gang in Emeryville…. I gave the lazy donut chompers the address, drove by myself. It was a dump of a house with broken junk piled up in the yard, painted over windows. They wouldn’t even get off their butts to go knock on the door. Probably knew they would meet somebody tougher than them.

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    • Replies: @Autochthon
    Seems like a hassle. I wonder if you could have avoided it by contacting Emeryville's police department, since they actually have jurisdiction over properties in Emeryville. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    , @StillCARealist
    this is more validation of "broken windows", more or less. Small-time theft isn't taken seriously by city police departments and it grows into big-time theft. The 16 year old punk who steals bikes and phones will become the 19 year old thug who commits armed robbery. The drug home isn't just where dope is sold, it's where plenty of other crimes are organized and planned, where contraband is redeemed and stolen weapons hoarded. This happened in my brother's neighborhood where, when a big enough crime finally warranted investigation, the known drug house was finally raided. The police found guys on parole there, drugs, stolen merchandise, weapons. This one place was the locus of all the neighborhood crime and everybody knew it.

    Probably the same discovery would have been made at the house in Emeryville.
  13. @Johan Schmidt
    Any society not fully indoctrinated by liberal-progressive dogma (perhaps a society of space aliens by this point) would consider us insane. Looking at this situation it would take them about ten seconds to ask "Why has the municipality not been annexed by a more successful polity?"

    JS – why would anybody want to annex an that set of problems? Importing disease is not a good idea.

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    • Replies: @Lurker
    I thought that JS was making an ironic comment. Not annexing the set of problems because the problems arise from the population.
  14. @YetAnotherAnon
    OT, but Charlie Gard's* mother has just said on BBC radio that the intervention of Trump and the Pope is all that's kept her son alive ("they've saved his life").

    (* the UK baby with a genetic condition who the doctors want to kill 'in the child's best interests', a ruling upheld by the UK and EU's courts)

    Charlie Gard may have just enough brain function to feel pain. Trump and the Pope have helped make sure that pain goes on as long as is technologically possible.

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    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    I imagine his mum and dad are more competent to pronounce on that than you or I.
    , @Anon
    Life is pain.
    , @dcthrowback
    This is the type of (right-wing) virtue signaling to the ~2% of the population for whom being pro-life is their only or main voting issue. In addition, a high %age of those people devote their time to political activism, working phone banks, etc. The bat signal is up and sending the message and my guess the right people are getting it.
    , @27 year old
    Aw crap, please tell me we're not about to have Terry Shiavo II up in here...
    , @Autochthon
    Why are his parents named Chris Gard and Connie Yates? I always check the surnames of the father, mother, and child in these situations. Seldom are they the same....

    I also see coverage cited an earlier, similar case wherein parents were arrested for taking their child from one hospital for treatment in another abroad without the British physicians' permission. Britain is a vile place.

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    @whorefinder
    1. Why is the BATFE involved? Usually its local fire chiefs who rule whether things are arson or not. This says to me one of three things:
    a. The Oakland Fire Dep't is so incompetent the feds have de facto taken over.
    b. There's a larger federal involvement in Oakland on something non-fire related. I'm guessing terrorism, or perhaps a huge drug-gang-cartel investigation---there's probably an investigation going on in the area, hence why the BATFE is giving its thoughts on the fire. Maybe the fires are somebody trying to cover their tracks?
    c. A little of ((("magic lightening"))) to get insurance money for a larger developer or two who is taking a bath.

    2. Perhaps the fires ARE terrorism, but the BATFE is covering for it claiming its just arson.

    3. Black rioters tend to start fires, as we learned from the 1960s. Perhaps BLM is lighting this fuse, so to speak?

    I thought the term was ‘Jewish lightning’.

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    • Replies: @bored identity
    bored identity is fascinated how some people are so successful that they will retain Midas touch even while holding a a matchbox next to a can of kerosine :



    "...But interestingly, the linguists do explain that “Jewish lightning” often goes along with the phrase “successful fire.”


    http://forward.com/culture/372158/why-do-people-call-arson-jewish-lightning-and-is-it-anti-semitic/

     

    Oi tempora oi mores!
  16. @oddsbodkins
    Charlie Gard may have just enough brain function to feel pain. Trump and the Pope have helped make sure that pain goes on as long as is technologically possible.

    I imagine his mum and dad are more competent to pronounce on that than you or I.

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  17. Charlie Gard may have just enough brain function to feel pain. Trump and the Pope have helped make sure that pain goes on as long as is technologically possible.

    Life is pain. Anyone who tells you otherwise is selling you something.

    Life is also a gift. We either take it seriously or pretend we’re nothing more than animals, to put be put down at the first sign of suffering. And when you go down that road, it’s not long before suffering is redefined as “inconvenient”.

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  18. Charlie Gard is a hopeless case. No one argues that.
    The question becomes, how much medical care (which is, after all, a limited resource) should be expended on prolonging his life? It would be a little different (but not substantially so) if his parents were paying for his care, but they’re not. The British public is paying.
    Sure, bring him to America and let the crowd fund his care, I don’t care. But when the taxpayer is footing the bill, I say that the government can reasonably say, “Enough is enough.”

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    • Replies: @JSM
    I'd agree, but for the fact that, if this kid were Muslim, you can bet all measures would be taken...to not do so would be that horrible sin of "racism."

    White privilege: being left alone to die.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Mac, In combat they use to say about administering morphine vials, one is for pain, two is for eternity. "Enough is enough."
  19. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @oddsbodkins
    Charlie Gard may have just enough brain function to feel pain. Trump and the Pope have helped make sure that pain goes on as long as is technologically possible.

    Life is pain.

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  20. @Altai
    Reminds me of the Welsh nationalist group Meibion Glyndŵr who were concerned about the price of housing becoming unaffordable for the locals (Thus driving down birth rates forcing them to go to English cities and importing English speakers who would further harm the language) in the 1970s/1980s in the core zones of the Welsh language due to rich English-speakers buying holiday homes. They did this by torching cottages sold at a high price as holiday homes to an English speaker, particularly Englishmen.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meibion_Glynd%C5%B5r
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/north_west/8408447.stm

    Alas, the cause of Meibion Glyndwr is irretrievably lost, not that I approve of house-burnings.

    Large parts of pretty rural villages (and sometimes whole hamlets) in Wales, especially on or near the coast, are almost empty of people outside school holiday time, as most of the houses are either owned by wealthy English (and used a few times a year) or owned by wealthy English (and let as holiday rentals).

    The absentee owner syndrome goes back a long way, but the effects have been compounded by a mass movement of the English from what were formerly their cities. You are as likely to hear Scouse as Welsh in the main streets of North Wales.

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    • Replies: @Altai
    Should do like Denmark and restrict property ownership in certain places.
  21. @oddsbodkins
    Charlie Gard may have just enough brain function to feel pain. Trump and the Pope have helped make sure that pain goes on as long as is technologically possible.

    This is the type of (right-wing) virtue signaling to the ~2% of the population for whom being pro-life is their only or main voting issue. In addition, a high %age of those people devote their time to political activism, working phone banks, etc. The bat signal is up and sending the message and my guess the right people are getting it.

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    • Replies: @Bosch
    What's the pro-life right without a little squalid controversy over the fate of a brain dead infant?
  22. @oddsbodkins
    Charlie Gard may have just enough brain function to feel pain. Trump and the Pope have helped make sure that pain goes on as long as is technologically possible.

    Aw crap, please tell me we’re not about to have Terry Shiavo II up in here…

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    • Replies: @oddsbodkins
    You are right, I should not have replied. There are a thousand other websites on which to litigate that issue. Best to stick to discussing things that are truly deplorable.
  23. @Johan Schmidt
    Any society not fully indoctrinated by liberal-progressive dogma (perhaps a society of space aliens by this point) would consider us insane. Looking at this situation it would take them about ten seconds to ask "Why has the municipality not been annexed by a more successful polity?"

    Why has the deceased junky’s cirrhotic liver not been harvested?

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  24. it did have the charm of being a soft version of a anarcho-libertarian paradise if you were looking to kick the gong around a bit on a Friday night (drunk driving was essentially legal, for example, so long as you stayed off the CHP-patrolled highways

    At least Democrats and their shaky coalition aren’t afraid of a little fun. A similar situation endures in Detroit, where copiously swilling dreg hops while operating a motor vehicle within city confines is de rigueur. In fact, not conspicuously violating at least one major traffic law at all times can quickly draw the attention of local predators.

    In most Democratic enclaves, there’s no lower and more contemptible life form than the law-abiding snitch.

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  25. @BCR
    The Oakland police are generally worthless. Many of the problems are listed above.

    I had an identity theft problem years ago while living in San Francisco. The address for the drop house in Emeryville showed up on my credit report. San Francisco PD said to go to Oakland PD. OPD said I was a SF resident, SF had to deal with it. Like SFPD was going to go bust an amateur gang in Emeryville.... I gave the lazy donut chompers the address, drove by myself. It was a dump of a house with broken junk piled up in the yard, painted over windows. They wouldn't even get off their butts to go knock on the door. Probably knew they would meet somebody tougher than them.

    Seems like a hassle. I wonder if you could have avoided it by contacting Emeryville’s police department, since they actually have jurisdiction over properties in Emeryville. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    I wondered the same thing at the time. Why did SFPD direct me to Oakland? Silly me, I followed instructions. OPD did not seem surprised at all by my request, maybe they do Emeryville's heavy lifting when the mood suits them. They did not direct to EPD, but back to SFPD. Frankly, I have never seen an EPD officer in the flesh and the only time I have seen an EPD cruiser is when I drive by the station, so I am not exactly sure of their actual functions. Your suggestion makes sense, of course, but after being bounced around two "real" jurisdictions, I gave up any hope of any police response. My bank was more helpful in freezing out the scumbags from accessing my credit, etc.
  26. @oddsbodkins
    Charlie Gard may have just enough brain function to feel pain. Trump and the Pope have helped make sure that pain goes on as long as is technologically possible.

    Why are his parents named Chris Gard and Connie Yates? I always check the surnames of the father, mother, and child in these situations. Seldom are they the same….

    I also see coverage cited an earlier, similar case wherein parents were arrested for taking their child from one hospital for treatment in another abroad without the British physicians’ permission. Britain is a vile place.

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    "I also see coverage cited an earlier, similar case wherein parents were arrested for taking their child from one hospital for treatment in another abroad without the British physicians’ permission."
     
    I don't understand the point of this. The hospitals and staff get paid whether they treat a patient or not. Why do they care if the family take the patient elsewhere? What is the story?
  27. Could be “jewish lightning”, to depress property values so the “powers that be” can buy them up for a pittance.
    In Detroit, in the 1960s and early 1970s, there was a chain of department stores that was experiencing “jewish lightning” almost once a month.
    The jewish owner of the businesses was so brash, he actually took out television ads, holding a fireman’s hat, stating “we would have a fire sale this week, but we didn’t have one”.
    The fires in Oakland might be planned by (jewish) real estate speculators with the “anti-gentrification” crowd being used to commit the “dirty deeds”. It wouldn’t surprise me…

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  28. Looks like one of the projects set on fire was a senior affordable housing complex – I am guessing the arsonist just assumed the project was gentrification. Rioters in Baltimore burned down a senior affordable project under construction as well.

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    • Replies: @International Jew
    No, that one was a dispute between two unions, as I recall.
  29. @Altai
    Reminds me of the Welsh nationalist group Meibion Glyndŵr who were concerned about the price of housing becoming unaffordable for the locals (Thus driving down birth rates forcing them to go to English cities and importing English speakers who would further harm the language) in the 1970s/1980s in the core zones of the Welsh language due to rich English-speakers buying holiday homes. They did this by torching cottages sold at a high price as holiday homes to an English speaker, particularly Englishmen.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meibion_Glynd%C5%B5r
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/north_west/8408447.stm

    Come home to a real fire…

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  30. @whorefinder
    1. Why is the BATFE involved? Usually its local fire chiefs who rule whether things are arson or not. This says to me one of three things:
    a. The Oakland Fire Dep't is so incompetent the feds have de facto taken over.
    b. There's a larger federal involvement in Oakland on something non-fire related. I'm guessing terrorism, or perhaps a huge drug-gang-cartel investigation---there's probably an investigation going on in the area, hence why the BATFE is giving its thoughts on the fire. Maybe the fires are somebody trying to cover their tracks?
    c. A little of ((("magic lightening"))) to get insurance money for a larger developer or two who is taking a bath.

    2. Perhaps the fires ARE terrorism, but the BATFE is covering for it claiming its just arson.

    3. Black rioters tend to start fires, as we learned from the 1960s. Perhaps BLM is lighting this fuse, so to speak?

    Just can’t keep yourself for whacking on the Joooos, ehh, whorefinder?

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  31. Anti-gentrification == A commitment to remaining a ghetto forever.

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    Anti-gentrification == A commitment to remaining a ghetto forever.

    Gentrification = forcing the mess that is the urban ghetto into the burbs where I live, and yeah, since you didn't ask, my formerly livable working class community has been inheriting the mess from Oakland and Richmond.
  32. @Father O'Hara
    Am I the only guy who at first glance saw "Probably Eric Clapton types"? Hmm,there's a puzzling comment.

    Am I the only guy who at first glance saw “Probably Eric Clapton types”?

    I did the same thing. I amuse myself.

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  33. OT:

    Just about 2/3rds of the French think there are too many foreigners in France, including 46% of the people who say they support Macron’s party. A solid majority of all occupational categories except the managerial/professional class agreed.

    (link in French)

    http://www.fdesouche.com/868039-sondage-fractures-francaises-2017-65-des-francais-estiment-quil-y-trop-detrangers-en-france

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    • Replies: @Flip
    So why don't they vote that way?
    , @MBlanc46
    It's a shame that Marine Le Pen appears to be tainted forever by the history of the FN.
    , @International Jew
    Then half of that 2/3 must not think it's a big deal. Like 90% of Americans thought the AMC Gremlin was an ugly car, but wouldn't have voted for a party devoted to eradicating the AMC Gremlin.
  34. @YetAnotherAnon
    Alas, the cause of Meibion Glyndwr is irretrievably lost, not that I approve of house-burnings.

    Large parts of pretty rural villages (and sometimes whole hamlets) in Wales, especially on or near the coast, are almost empty of people outside school holiday time, as most of the houses are either owned by wealthy English (and used a few times a year) or owned by wealthy English (and let as holiday rentals).

    The absentee owner syndrome goes back a long way, but the effects have been compounded by a mass movement of the English from what were formerly their cities. You are as likely to hear Scouse as Welsh in the main streets of North Wales.

    Should do like Denmark and restrict property ownership in certain places.

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  35. @Father O'Hara
    Am I the only guy who at first glance saw "Probably Eric Clapton types"? Hmm,there's a puzzling comment.

    I did too. I also saw Steve’s recent post title as

    NYT: “Why Does Donald Trump Keep Kissing Jews?”

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  36. @Macumazahn
    Charlie Gard is a hopeless case. No one argues that.
    The question becomes, how much medical care (which is, after all, a limited resource) should be expended on prolonging his life? It would be a little different (but not substantially so) if his parents were paying for his care, but they're not. The British public is paying.
    Sure, bring him to America and let the crowd fund his care, I don't care. But when the taxpayer is footing the bill, I say that the government can reasonably say, "Enough is enough."

    I’d agree, but for the fact that, if this kid were Muslim, you can bet all measures would be taken…to not do so would be that horrible sin of “racism.”

    White privilege: being left alone to die.

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  37. @BCR
    The Oakland police are generally worthless. Many of the problems are listed above.

    I had an identity theft problem years ago while living in San Francisco. The address for the drop house in Emeryville showed up on my credit report. San Francisco PD said to go to Oakland PD. OPD said I was a SF resident, SF had to deal with it. Like SFPD was going to go bust an amateur gang in Emeryville.... I gave the lazy donut chompers the address, drove by myself. It was a dump of a house with broken junk piled up in the yard, painted over windows. They wouldn't even get off their butts to go knock on the door. Probably knew they would meet somebody tougher than them.

    this is more validation of “broken windows”, more or less. Small-time theft isn’t taken seriously by city police departments and it grows into big-time theft. The 16 year old punk who steals bikes and phones will become the 19 year old thug who commits armed robbery. The drug home isn’t just where dope is sold, it’s where plenty of other crimes are organized and planned, where contraband is redeemed and stolen weapons hoarded. This happened in my brother’s neighborhood where, when a big enough crime finally warranted investigation, the known drug house was finally raided. The police found guys on parole there, drugs, stolen merchandise, weapons. This one place was the locus of all the neighborhood crime and everybody knew it.

    Probably the same discovery would have been made at the house in Emeryville.

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  38. @Thomas

    1. Why is the BATFE involved? Usually its local fire chiefs who rule whether things are arson or not. This says to me one of three things:
    a. The Oakland Fire Dep’t is so incompetent the feds have de facto taken over.
     
    The BATFE has decent laboratory and scientific services (in part due to their subject matter coverage involving explosives) that they can lend their assistance to local fire and law enforcement investigations on request (similar to the FBI).

    I lived in Oakland for a number of years. It has a definite problem of spontaneous combustion of its buildings. There was a structure fire visible from I-580 as I was driving into the city for the first time, and a local restaurant near where I lived burned down in what was later determined to be arson after the owner started having trouble with his liquor license. The local courts right now are dealing with manslaughter prosecutions from the Ghost Ship fire there back in December, which was the deadliest structure fire in the entire country in more than a decade (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Oakland_warehouse_fire)

    As far as the Oakland Fire Department goes, here's their webpage on "Fire Incpections" (sic): http://www2.oaklandnet.com/government/o/OFD/s/Inspections/index.htm

    Oakland public services generally are pretty shambolic. The police department has been in effective crisis for most of the century, having gone through high turnover of chiefs, federal management under a consent decree, short staffing, and most recently a sex scandal involving several officers involved with a teenage prostitute. The Ghost Ship incident showed how diligent the building and fire inspection system isn't. When I lived there, it did have the charm of being a soft version of a anarcho-libertarian paradise if you were looking to kick the gong around a bit on a Friday night (drunk driving was essentially legal, for example, so long as you stayed off the CHP-patrolled highways, because there were so few cops on the streets that DUI enforcement was non-existent; International Boulevard through East Oakland is a major prostitution track that the police have had less success dealing with than private do-gooders).

    “When I lived there, it did have the charm of being a soft version of a anarcho-libertarian paradise ”

    I find this quite interesting. Other than the propensity of buildings burning to the ground, what are the other problems with this? You listed some of the advantages. I’d imagine its not great for house prices and street crime is higher than most people would like.

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    I’d imagine its not great for house prices and street crime is higher than most people would like.
     
    Most of Oakland's population rents and the city has rent control, so house prices are at best irrelevant to them, or at worst they have a potential interest in real estate not getting too valuable (which would make their landlord more likely to sell and the property to be redeveloped, kicking them out). Steve's original post highlights opposition to gentrification there. Even with that though, the priapic state of coastal California real estate values (and Bay Area real estate values in particular) means that little slows down the rise in value. Oakland is across the Bay Bridge and a BART (metro) line from San Francisco, and is about an hour's drive away from Silicon Valley, and the climate is generally superior (sunnier and less foggy) than San Francisco's, so it's very naturally valuable land. Much of the expensive housing though throughout the East Bay (where Oakland is) has been in the hills, generally somewhat separated from the crime and poverty in the "flats," so there's somewhat of a natural geographic barrier protecting some of the better real estate from the worst.

    As far as crime goes, it's never been good in Oakland, but it generally stays restricted to particular elements and particular neighborhoods that the hipsters and commuters know not to get involved in. There are large tracts in East Oakland (the Deep East) and West Oakland (the "Lower Bottoms" and "Ghost Town") that are heavily crime ridden, but it's the typical quasi-suburban California pattern of ghetto gang- and drug-related crime you get similar to Los Angeles that mostly keeps to the parties concerned most of the time. The Town has had a rash of flash mob-style robberies on BART this year, but the typical remedy for most people in busy downtown areas is just to avoid your typical groups of "youths" and "teens" doing their thing.

    The people who always seemed the worst affected to me were anyone trying to run a retail-level business in Oakland. The typical expectation is that most things outside the busiest neighborhoods close around 9pm for fear of crime. There was an epidemic of takeover-style robberies of restaurant customers a few summers ago (that was ultimately traced back to one West Oakland crew) that hurt the restaurant business for awhile. There's also the problem of regular rioting over the last few years in Oakland over... well anything (Occupy, Black Lives Matter, you name it) that creates problems for business (smashed windows and other damage, lost business). Oakland could do just fine as basically a bedroom community without a lot of its own night time dining and entertainment and leave that to San Francisco (or Berkeley and Emeryville, a small town next to Oakland at the foot of the Bay Bridge that's basically just a giant shopping center and office park) but BART stops running around 1 am, and since Jerry Brown's mayoralty, the city has tried to promote a lot of "urban renewal" in some areas that attracts commercial businesses.

    One thing that happens in Oakland I know with law enforcement (that the BATFE involvement in the arson investigations may highlight) is that a lot of sister law enforcement agencies other than the Oakland PD do a lot of work in Oakland. CHP often gets tapped for riot and crowd control duties there, and the Alameda County Sheriff (which also runs the jail) and CDCR (California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation) do a lot of crime control and suppression work inside Oakland as well.

  39. @Altai
    Reminds me of the Welsh nationalist group Meibion Glyndŵr who were concerned about the price of housing becoming unaffordable for the locals (Thus driving down birth rates forcing them to go to English cities and importing English speakers who would further harm the language) in the 1970s/1980s in the core zones of the Welsh language due to rich English-speakers buying holiday homes. They did this by torching cottages sold at a high price as holiday homes to an English speaker, particularly Englishmen.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meibion_Glynd%C5%B5r
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/north_west/8408447.stm

    This site has a pretty anti-immigration crowd, and I’m surprised there is not more sympathy for people who do a little border control themselves, in their own neighborhoods, when they can’t get the government to do it.

    This is not meant to be trolling. If you live in Cornwall or Wales, in many respects there is not that much difference between Englishmen coming in and buying up all the properties and Pakistanis showing up. The English probably won’t be Muslims or into child prostitution or cousin marriage of course. But the effects of pushing housing prices beyond the reach of what natives can afford, compelling the natives to re-locate is the same. Nor are they part of the local culture, in some places in Wales they don’t even speak the local language.

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    Who, whom...

    If you couldn't tell, I wasn't unsympathetic to the objectives of the arsonists in Wales and apparently Cornwall.

    , @Lurker
    Non-white owned properties have never targeted that I'm aware of. If they had it would be major news.

    The last two white people in Wales will probably be involved in a fight over the Welsh one burning down the English guy's house. The local Iman will call for calm.

    part of the local culture, in some places in Wales they don’t even speak the local language.
     
    Everyone in Wales speaks English and all children in Wales are taught Welsh. But it's only in parts of North Wales that Welsh is used as a first language. English 'settlers' will therefore have their children brought up knowing at least some Welsh. (I remember once being a shop where two little old Welsh ladies were having a conversation yet one was speaking entirely in Welsh, one entirely in English, it was quite odd to hear).

    Meanwhile, down in south west Wales the population is, and has been for many generations, almost entirely English and often don't even have Welsh accents.
    , @BenjaminL
    Speaking for myself only, I am galled by, firstly, the hypocrisy of elite liberals, and secondly, their very active and vigorous efforts to deny the rest of us the kind of 'insulation' which they cherish.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/429693/affh-preview-obamas-hud-takes-over-dubuque-iowa
    https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/15/opinion/edsall-who-will-pay-the-political-price-for-affordable-housing.html?_r=0

    I am very happy to support the rights of anyone to exercise local 'border control,' whether they be Welsh, Marin hot-tubbers, or whoever, if they grant the same to me.
  40. @eD
    This site has a pretty anti-immigration crowd, and I'm surprised there is not more sympathy for people who do a little border control themselves, in their own neighborhoods, when they can't get the government to do it.

    This is not meant to be trolling. If you live in Cornwall or Wales, in many respects there is not that much difference between Englishmen coming in and buying up all the properties and Pakistanis showing up. The English probably won't be Muslims or into child prostitution or cousin marriage of course. But the effects of pushing housing prices beyond the reach of what natives can afford, compelling the natives to re-locate is the same. Nor are they part of the local culture, in some places in Wales they don't even speak the local language.

    Who, whom…

    If you couldn’t tell, I wasn’t unsympathetic to the objectives of the arsonists in Wales and apparently Cornwall.

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  41. @Altai
    Reminds me of the Welsh nationalist group Meibion Glyndŵr who were concerned about the price of housing becoming unaffordable for the locals (Thus driving down birth rates forcing them to go to English cities and importing English speakers who would further harm the language) in the 1970s/1980s in the core zones of the Welsh language due to rich English-speakers buying holiday homes. They did this by torching cottages sold at a high price as holiday homes to an English speaker, particularly Englishmen.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meibion_Glynd%C5%B5r
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/north_west/8408447.stm

    I’ve not heard of a Welsh house burning in years. Of course these days there is also a steady influx of more vibrant immigration and for some reason the sight of alien races and their cultural/religious practices do not stir the sons of Glyndŵr.

    It often seems as if the nationalisms of the British Isles were only there to divide the white population, they have nothing to say about the vibrancy or they actively welcome it.

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    Those Oakland, Boyle Heights, & Welsh paleopatriots are just minnows compared to the great white shark of direct-action slumnification– Hawai’i’an hobos:

    http://www.staradvertiser.com/2017/07/09/hawaii-news/growing-homeless-encampments-prompt-proposal-for-armed-park-rangers/

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  43. COT, but AHA! – “China Creates Pacific Shipping Giant With Cosco’s Orient Takeover” (Zerohedge). Orient Overseas shipping company is based in Hong Kong. They are not ashamed of their company name, or the board of directors would have changed it a long time ago.

    OK, what was this post about again? Starting fires? I grew out of that at age 15.

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    • Replies: @bored identity
    Nothing to do with certain Chao being Weimerica's Tvansovptation Sekvetavy.

    Right?


    MSM-Fluff:

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/03/23/exclusive-transportation-secretary-elaine-chao-uses-past-connect-outsider-president/99447410/

    Alt-Rough:

    http://www.wnd.com/2001/01/7853/

    http://www.wnd.com/2001/01/7823/

    http://www.wnd.com/2001/01/7869/
  44. @eD
    This site has a pretty anti-immigration crowd, and I'm surprised there is not more sympathy for people who do a little border control themselves, in their own neighborhoods, when they can't get the government to do it.

    This is not meant to be trolling. If you live in Cornwall or Wales, in many respects there is not that much difference between Englishmen coming in and buying up all the properties and Pakistanis showing up. The English probably won't be Muslims or into child prostitution or cousin marriage of course. But the effects of pushing housing prices beyond the reach of what natives can afford, compelling the natives to re-locate is the same. Nor are they part of the local culture, in some places in Wales they don't even speak the local language.

    Non-white owned properties have never targeted that I’m aware of. If they had it would be major news.

    The last two white people in Wales will probably be involved in a fight over the Welsh one burning down the English guy’s house. The local Iman will call for calm.

    part of the local culture, in some places in Wales they don’t even speak the local language.

    Everyone in Wales speaks English and all children in Wales are taught Welsh. But it’s only in parts of North Wales that Welsh is used as a first language. English ‘settlers’ will therefore have their children brought up knowing at least some Welsh. (I remember once being a shop where two little old Welsh ladies were having a conversation yet one was speaking entirely in Welsh, one entirely in English, it was quite odd to hear).

    Meanwhile, down in south west Wales the population is, and has been for many generations, almost entirely English and often don’t even have Welsh accents.

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  45. @BCR
    JS - why would anybody want to annex an that set of problems? Importing disease is not a good idea.

    I thought that JS was making an ironic comment. Not annexing the set of problems because the problems arise from the population.

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  46. When I worked in a trade, as you got to know the Black guys, they’d eventually ‘fess up that a lot of times they will play the race card to try and get out of situations, etc., but for as long as I knew guys and as comfortable as we were together, the one topic that would get you the “stone face” was mentioning trying to keep rents low/gentrifiers out/etc. with violent crime.

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  47. Oakland is going up in flames, or crumbling down into HardLeft squalor; are the two divisible? I’m increasingly frightened to even drive under the freeway or BART overpasses: the tent cities are just getting bigger and bigger and more lurid. https://www.eastbayexpress.com/oakland/city-of-oakland-bulldozer-hit-a-homeless-man-while-he-was-sleeping-in-a-tent/Content?oid=7139007

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  48. @Anon
    I thought the term was 'Jewish lightning'.

    bored identity is fascinated how some people are so successful that they will retain Midas touch even while holding a a matchbox next to a can of kerosine :

    “…But interestingly, the linguists do explain that “Jewish lightning” often goes along with the phrase “successful fire.”

    http://forward.com/culture/372158/why-do-people-call-arson-jewish-lightning-and-is-it-anti-semitic/

    Oi tempora oi mores!

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  49. @Father O'Hara
    Am I the only guy who at first glance saw "Probably Eric Clapton types"? Hmm,there's a puzzling comment.

    I know who Eric Clapton is (God), but who is Eric Clanton?

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    A guy who seems to THINK he is God.
    , @Dee
    Eric Clanton is the bike lock assailant; smacked a guy over the head with a heavy bike lock during one of the antifa riots in Berkeley.

    Even though he was wearing a mask and sun glasses, the weaponized autistics at Reddit figured out who he was and reported it to the world. It took the cops a month, but they finally did arrest him and he's sitting in the county jail....
  50. Oakland is in the best place in the Bay Area. Weather is great, not too hot, not too cold. SF is 20 minutes away over the Bay Bridge. Go 20 minutes north or south and there’s a bridge going to Marin or the Peninsula.

    It’s centrally located in other words.

    All it needs is a way to remove the correct 60% of the current population; if you know what I mean, and I think you do….

    Then the peeps that bought real estate cheap will see a 1000% jump in value. Even the 60% can see the handwriting on the wall about that, so burn down half built high rises and make sure Oakland’s piss poor reputation for crime is reported on a daily basis..

    Google, Fakebook, other Silicon Valley employers pay for Greyhound style buses that pick up 60 workers in Oakland and take them 50 miles to their jobs. And there are multiple buses each day, so it’s a big deal.

    The feral locals have been demonstrating at the bus stops in Oakland to show their disgust….

    Our host has mentioned numerous times how in 50 years, the ancestors of the current population will be amazed at all the great places they used to live in. But are now out in the Central Valley, where nothing is close, the weather sucks most of the year, but if befits their station in life..

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    All it needs is a way to remove the correct 60% of the current population; if you know what I mean, and I think you do….
     
    Wouldn't that 60% be happier departed, if you could just push through their false consciousness that they're happier extant?
  51. @dcthrowback
    This is the type of (right-wing) virtue signaling to the ~2% of the population for whom being pro-life is their only or main voting issue. In addition, a high %age of those people devote their time to political activism, working phone banks, etc. The bat signal is up and sending the message and my guess the right people are getting it.

    What’s the pro-life right without a little squalid controversy over the fate of a brain dead infant?

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  52. @Achmed E. Newman
    COT, but AHA! - "China Creates Pacific Shipping Giant With Cosco's Orient Takeover" (Zerohedge). Orient Overseas shipping company is based in Hong Kong. They are not ashamed of their company name, or the board of directors would have changed it a long time ago.

    OK, what was this post about again? Starting fires? I grew out of that at age 15.
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  53. @jJay
    While the cause of the latest blaze is not known....

    Chinese lightning? Oakland, the land of OJ Simpson, is being purchased, little by little, by Chinese Americans and Chinese nationals. I dare you to rent an apartment in Oakland that doesn't have a Chinese landlord. Not news, this has been going on for decades.

    I thought OJ was from Potrero in SF.

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    And OJs picture is still on that neighborhood field house in SF , faded but identifiable. I try to include a drive by when visitors come to town. When the subject comes up in mixed company, (and not much anymore) I like to say that the killing should not have happened because OJ should have been in jail after committing the crime of being a terrible Monday Night Football announcer.
    People still think OJ didn't do it and Christopher Darden is a incompetent traitor.

    Then there frumpy dumpy Jerry Garcia look alike that I met at a party in 1984. He said he went High School with OJ and everyday for 4 years he had to give up his ice cream money. But that is only what I was told.
  54. @Joe Magarac
    Anti-gentrification == A commitment to remaining a ghetto forever.

    Anti-gentrification == A commitment to remaining a ghetto forever.

    Gentrification = forcing the mess that is the urban ghetto into the burbs where I live, and yeah, since you didn’t ask, my formerly livable working class community has been inheriting the mess from Oakland and Richmond.

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  55. @Johan Schmidt
    Any society not fully indoctrinated by liberal-progressive dogma (perhaps a society of space aliens by this point) would consider us insane. Looking at this situation it would take them about ten seconds to ask "Why has the municipality not been annexed by a more successful polity?"

    “Why has the municipality not been annexed by a more successful polity?”

    Thus enfranchising the very voters who put in the pols who created Oakland’s condition, but over THEIR area too.

    What Oakland needs is either an emergency manager able to rule by fiat, or a steep poll tax.

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    When I said "annexed", rest assured that I was not including enfranchisement, and I thought "emergency manager able to rule by fiat" and "steep poll tax" both went without saying.

    A few commenters speculated as to why anyone would want to rule these "problem children", so to speak. Well first, I was assuming a base level of (paternalistic) concern for their welfare as compatriots, and second, the Poor are a gold mine.
  56. @Patrick Harris
    OT:

    Just about 2/3rds of the French think there are too many foreigners in France, including 46% of the people who say they support Macron's party. A solid majority of all occupational categories except the managerial/professional class agreed.

    (link in French)

    http://www.fdesouche.com/868039-sondage-fractures-francaises-2017-65-des-francais-estiment-quil-y-trop-detrangers-en-france

    So why don’t they vote that way?

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  57. http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN19V1J4

    This is OT, but fyi. Zionists are not pro open borders or anti-West, the problem is that most American Jews are liberals. Most Israeli, Russian, Sephardi Jews have views largely in line with yours.

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  58. Territorial struggles everywhere. The globalized plutocracy seems to feel that if they can control the currency and the banking system they can allow the small-scale struggles for territory to occupy the peasants.

    But these small-scale struggles for territory can sometimes take on a broader meaning for the public. The arsonists in Oakland must be caught and jailed, that is for sure. But the question of population displacement and high housing costs is driving much of the political discourse in European Christian nation-states.

    The Blacks in Compton, Los Angeles have been pushed out by Mexicans. It is not clear who is doing the arson in Oakland, but they seem to feel that they are being pushed out. Developers in Chicago and New York, it is reported, are sneakily pushing Blacks out of areas in order to increase the profit potential of those areas. These shyster developers are pushing the Blacks out to White areas, causing the Whites to begin to flee.

    Population tumult is very profitable for some, and very vexing for others.

    I blame the bankers. The Finance-Insurance-Real-Estate sector is fueled by debt. The bankers make their money by playing games with debt. Population tumult increases the demand for debt.

    It seems clear to me that Malibu, Marin County and other wealthy enclaves in California need to be flooded with Blacks and illegal alien invaders. Perhaps 40, 000 Blacks from Oakland could be transported south down to Malibu and 100, 000 illegal alien invaders from Los Angeles could be transported north to Marin County.

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  59. @Autochthon
    Why are his parents named Chris Gard and Connie Yates? I always check the surnames of the father, mother, and child in these situations. Seldom are they the same....

    I also see coverage cited an earlier, similar case wherein parents were arrested for taking their child from one hospital for treatment in another abroad without the British physicians' permission. Britain is a vile place.

    “I also see coverage cited an earlier, similar case wherein parents were arrested for taking their child from one hospital for treatment in another abroad without the British physicians’ permission.”

    I don’t understand the point of this. The hospitals and staff get paid whether they treat a patient or not. Why do they care if the family take the patient elsewhere? What is the story?

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    The great moral gulf in UK society which opened when Christianity was effectively removed from the public sphere has been filled by judges and doctors, who stepped forward of their own free will to shoulder the burden of telling us how to live and die. In both the earlier case and the Gard case the doctors have argued that

    a) they are better judges of a child's best interests than the child's parents
    b) the above applies even when 'best interests' as discerned by the doctors means removing food and water aka "allowing the child to die", something which when done by a parent results in a long prison sentence

    And the courts always support the doctors.

    In the previous case, the child was taken from Southampton Hospital overseas to receive the proton beam therapy which the NHS considered would be ineffective (who knows if their views were swayed by the fact that there were then no medical proton sources in the UK?). I gather he's doing OK, and I've not heard any apology from the doctors, or from the police who issued an arrest warrant and had the parents locked in a Spanish jail.
  60. @eD
    This site has a pretty anti-immigration crowd, and I'm surprised there is not more sympathy for people who do a little border control themselves, in their own neighborhoods, when they can't get the government to do it.

    This is not meant to be trolling. If you live in Cornwall or Wales, in many respects there is not that much difference between Englishmen coming in and buying up all the properties and Pakistanis showing up. The English probably won't be Muslims or into child prostitution or cousin marriage of course. But the effects of pushing housing prices beyond the reach of what natives can afford, compelling the natives to re-locate is the same. Nor are they part of the local culture, in some places in Wales they don't even speak the local language.

    Speaking for myself only, I am galled by, firstly, the hypocrisy of elite liberals, and secondly, their very active and vigorous efforts to deny the rest of us the kind of ‘insulation’ which they cherish.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/429693/affh-preview-obamas-hud-takes-over-dubuque-iowa

    https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/15/opinion/edsall-who-will-pay-the-political-price-for-affordable-housing.html?_r=0

    I am very happy to support the rights of anyone to exercise local ‘border control,’ whether they be Welsh, Marin hot-tubbers, or whoever, if they grant the same to me.

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  61. @Autochthon
    Seems like a hassle. I wonder if you could have avoided it by contacting Emeryville's police department, since they actually have jurisdiction over properties in Emeryville. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    I wondered the same thing at the time. Why did SFPD direct me to Oakland? Silly me, I followed instructions. OPD did not seem surprised at all by my request, maybe they do Emeryville’s heavy lifting when the mood suits them. They did not direct to EPD, but back to SFPD. Frankly, I have never seen an EPD officer in the flesh and the only time I have seen an EPD cruiser is when I drive by the station, so I am not exactly sure of their actual functions. Your suggestion makes sense, of course, but after being bounced around two “real” jurisdictions, I gave up any hope of any police response. My bank was more helpful in freezing out the scumbags from accessing my credit, etc.

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  62. This is interesting:

    Tech Leaders Seek Bigger Political Role With Housing Push
    go.theinformation.com/8dabc21fa997fddd

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  63. @Macumazahn
    Charlie Gard is a hopeless case. No one argues that.
    The question becomes, how much medical care (which is, after all, a limited resource) should be expended on prolonging his life? It would be a little different (but not substantially so) if his parents were paying for his care, but they're not. The British public is paying.
    Sure, bring him to America and let the crowd fund his care, I don't care. But when the taxpayer is footing the bill, I say that the government can reasonably say, "Enough is enough."

    Mac, In combat they use to say about administering morphine vials, one is for pain, two is for eternity. “Enough is enough.”

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  64. Eric Clanton was arrested at a house located less than half a mile (about 3 long blocks) from the construction site that was torched twice. The house, located at 1173 32nd Street, has an Assata Shakur poster visible in an upper window in its Google Street View photo — it appears to be a nest of revolutionary commies.

    After the second fire, police released security camera images of a white guy in a hoodie, wearing a backpack and riding a bicycle at the construction site shortly before the fire was reported. https://evilleeye.com/news-commentary/atf-concludes-arson-3800-san-pablo-releases-video-stills-offers-100k-reward/

    The guy in the images seems to lack Clanton’s favored facial hair, but shares his fashion sense. Investigators should keep an eye on the occupants of that house and other Antifa flophouses in the area, maybe try and spot that bicycle.

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  65. OT but I have noticed that the traffic in the Bay Area, especially the traffic heading into San Francisco from the East Bay, has gotten much worse in the last couple of years. I used to be able to avoid it by leaving after 10:00 am or leaving before 3:00 on weekdays but even in mid-day it is clogged. Same for weekends. with the good weather, every Tom, Dick, and Harry is all trying to go over. Even elite parking for Giants games is not worth it unless you are tailgating it which nobody does much at the new stadium. When I moved to Lamorinda 20 plus years ago, it was specifically so I could zip in and out between the population centers such as Oakland and SF but more and more, we are getting hemmed in, just like everywhere else.

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  66. Man, talk about your FIRE economies!

    and, your genetic deficiencies:

    (Who’s pickin the banjo here?)

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  67. Like Trotsky might have said,

    “You might not be interested in territorialism, but territorialism is interested in you.”

    If one tribe cedes control of a body of land, it doesn’t become an egalitarian utopia – it just gets taken over by a rival tribe.

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  68. @Patrick Harris
    OT:

    Just about 2/3rds of the French think there are too many foreigners in France, including 46% of the people who say they support Macron's party. A solid majority of all occupational categories except the managerial/professional class agreed.

    (link in French)

    http://www.fdesouche.com/868039-sondage-fractures-francaises-2017-65-des-francais-estiment-quil-y-trop-detrangers-en-france

    It’s a shame that Marine Le Pen appears to be tainted forever by the history of the FN.

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  69. @Arclight
    Looks like one of the projects set on fire was a senior affordable housing complex - I am guessing the arsonist just assumed the project was gentrification. Rioters in Baltimore burned down a senior affordable project under construction as well.

    No, that one was a dispute between two unions, as I recall.

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  70. @Patrick Harris
    OT:

    Just about 2/3rds of the French think there are too many foreigners in France, including 46% of the people who say they support Macron's party. A solid majority of all occupational categories except the managerial/professional class agreed.

    (link in French)

    http://www.fdesouche.com/868039-sondage-fractures-francaises-2017-65-des-francais-estiment-quil-y-trop-detrangers-en-france

    Then half of that 2/3 must not think it’s a big deal. Like 90% of Americans thought the AMC Gremlin was an ugly car, but wouldn’t have voted for a party devoted to eradicating the AMC Gremlin.

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  71. I’m out of work right now. I guess that there is a lot of demand for security guards at building sites in Oakland. May try my luck up there.

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  72. @Joe Schmoe

    "I also see coverage cited an earlier, similar case wherein parents were arrested for taking their child from one hospital for treatment in another abroad without the British physicians’ permission."
     
    I don't understand the point of this. The hospitals and staff get paid whether they treat a patient or not. Why do they care if the family take the patient elsewhere? What is the story?

    The great moral gulf in UK society which opened when Christianity was effectively removed from the public sphere has been filled by judges and doctors, who stepped forward of their own free will to shoulder the burden of telling us how to live and die. In both the earlier case and the Gard case the doctors have argued that

    a) they are better judges of a child’s best interests than the child’s parents
    b) the above applies even when ‘best interests’ as discerned by the doctors means removing food and water aka “allowing the child to die”, something which when done by a parent results in a long prison sentence

    And the courts always support the doctors.

    In the previous case, the child was taken from Southampton Hospital overseas to receive the proton beam therapy which the NHS considered would be ineffective (who knows if their views were swayed by the fact that there were then no medical proton sources in the UK?). I gather he’s doing OK, and I’ve not heard any apology from the doctors, or from the police who issued an arrest warrant and had the parents locked in a Spanish jail.

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  73. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @jJay
    While the cause of the latest blaze is not known....

    Chinese lightning? Oakland, the land of OJ Simpson, is being purchased, little by little, by Chinese Americans and Chinese nationals. I dare you to rent an apartment in Oakland that doesn't have a Chinese landlord. Not news, this has been going on for decades.

    If you’re just bought a piece of Oakland property and want to gentrify it cheaply, you insure it to the max and then torch it. Collect the payment, have a bulldozer scrape off the rubble, and then rebuild with your fresh, new insurance dollars. Minimum cost to you, maximum benefit. Unless you’re caught, of course. However, if the local officials are corrupt and taking kickbacks from you, you’re not likely to be caught. The new Chinese owners are probably thrilled about having to deal only with the greedy black officials who are part of the local Democratic political machine, and who cover up for each others’ illegal bribe-taking. But if the Feds have moved in, it’s because insurers have complained about systematic patterns of fraud, and the fact that they can’t get justice from the local officials. Nonetheless, the Chinese may ensure that blacks are gone from Oakland in about a generation.

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  74. It’s probably some crazy leftist self hating white guy burning all those buildings down….

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  75. @Johan Schmidt
    Any society not fully indoctrinated by liberal-progressive dogma (perhaps a society of space aliens by this point) would consider us insane. Looking at this situation it would take them about ten seconds to ask "Why has the municipality not been annexed by a more successful polity?"

    The nearest-by “successful polity” would be what?

    And annexing Oakland would improve its success how?

    Though I trust you were being dryly ironic.

    Emeryville is hardly a “successful polity.” It only exists as something other than a burned-over hellfield because of brownfield/infill development by employers over the past 20-30 years.

    IIRC, Emeryville has way more workers than residents. Which is a problem if you’re one of those workers having to make ungodly commutes to more affordable outlying areas. From the city’s perspective, you build employment…but then the tax base goes elsewhere.

    The border area where this and other similar fires has happened involves repeated arson of mixed-use developments for local workers.

    Apparently it counts as “gentrification” if your old Superfund site goes from being a toxics-laden seasonal swamp to cleaned-up land with housing for working people/families.

    Rick Holliday is one of the builders who has been trying to get nonprofit mixed-use developments built in this crappy part of Emeryville for years. According to his press statements, he interprets the arson as our host does, as a political attack.

    http://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Oakland-blaze-a-setback-for-city-plan-to-11272506.php

    If I were BATFE and the feds, I’d want to know who is hiring, coaching, encouraging, or shielding what appears to be solo black bloc type midnight ride-by arsonists who destroy construction sites at approximately the same stage each time. I’d also want to know why the developers don’t have better site security, and I’d want to see everyone’s insurance paperwork.

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  76. @Thomas

    1. Why is the BATFE involved? Usually its local fire chiefs who rule whether things are arson or not. This says to me one of three things:
    a. The Oakland Fire Dep’t is so incompetent the feds have de facto taken over.
     
    The BATFE has decent laboratory and scientific services (in part due to their subject matter coverage involving explosives) that they can lend their assistance to local fire and law enforcement investigations on request (similar to the FBI).

    I lived in Oakland for a number of years. It has a definite problem of spontaneous combustion of its buildings. There was a structure fire visible from I-580 as I was driving into the city for the first time, and a local restaurant near where I lived burned down in what was later determined to be arson after the owner started having trouble with his liquor license. The local courts right now are dealing with manslaughter prosecutions from the Ghost Ship fire there back in December, which was the deadliest structure fire in the entire country in more than a decade (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Oakland_warehouse_fire)

    As far as the Oakland Fire Department goes, here's their webpage on "Fire Incpections" (sic): http://www2.oaklandnet.com/government/o/OFD/s/Inspections/index.htm

    Oakland public services generally are pretty shambolic. The police department has been in effective crisis for most of the century, having gone through high turnover of chiefs, federal management under a consent decree, short staffing, and most recently a sex scandal involving several officers involved with a teenage prostitute. The Ghost Ship incident showed how diligent the building and fire inspection system isn't. When I lived there, it did have the charm of being a soft version of a anarcho-libertarian paradise if you were looking to kick the gong around a bit on a Friday night (drunk driving was essentially legal, for example, so long as you stayed off the CHP-patrolled highways, because there were so few cops on the streets that DUI enforcement was non-existent; International Boulevard through East Oakland is a major prostitution track that the police have had less success dealing with than private do-gooders).

    Thanks. First person accounts here are valuable.

    I suspect you have described the future for 80% of the country.

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  77. @eD
    "When I lived there, it did have the charm of being a soft version of a anarcho-libertarian paradise "

    I find this quite interesting. Other than the propensity of buildings burning to the ground, what are the other problems with this? You listed some of the advantages. I'd imagine its not great for house prices and street crime is higher than most people would like.

    I’d imagine its not great for house prices and street crime is higher than most people would like.

    Most of Oakland’s population rents and the city has rent control, so house prices are at best irrelevant to them, or at worst they have a potential interest in real estate not getting too valuable (which would make their landlord more likely to sell and the property to be redeveloped, kicking them out). Steve’s original post highlights opposition to gentrification there. Even with that though, the priapic state of coastal California real estate values (and Bay Area real estate values in particular) means that little slows down the rise in value. Oakland is across the Bay Bridge and a BART (metro) line from San Francisco, and is about an hour’s drive away from Silicon Valley, and the climate is generally superior (sunnier and less foggy) than San Francisco’s, so it’s very naturally valuable land. Much of the expensive housing though throughout the East Bay (where Oakland is) has been in the hills, generally somewhat separated from the crime and poverty in the “flats,” so there’s somewhat of a natural geographic barrier protecting some of the better real estate from the worst.

    As far as crime goes, it’s never been good in Oakland, but it generally stays restricted to particular elements and particular neighborhoods that the hipsters and commuters know not to get involved in. There are large tracts in East Oakland (the Deep East) and West Oakland (the “Lower Bottoms” and “Ghost Town”) that are heavily crime ridden, but it’s the typical quasi-suburban California pattern of ghetto gang- and drug-related crime you get similar to Los Angeles that mostly keeps to the parties concerned most of the time. The Town has had a rash of flash mob-style robberies on BART this year, but the typical remedy for most people in busy downtown areas is just to avoid your typical groups of “youths” and “teens” doing their thing.

    The people who always seemed the worst affected to me were anyone trying to run a retail-level business in Oakland. The typical expectation is that most things outside the busiest neighborhoods close around 9pm for fear of crime. There was an epidemic of takeover-style robberies of restaurant customers a few summers ago (that was ultimately traced back to one West Oakland crew) that hurt the restaurant business for awhile. There’s also the problem of regular rioting over the last few years in Oakland over… well anything (Occupy, Black Lives Matter, you name it) that creates problems for business (smashed windows and other damage, lost business). Oakland could do just fine as basically a bedroom community without a lot of its own night time dining and entertainment and leave that to San Francisco (or Berkeley and Emeryville, a small town next to Oakland at the foot of the Bay Bridge that’s basically just a giant shopping center and office park) but BART stops running around 1 am, and since Jerry Brown’s mayoralty, the city has tried to promote a lot of “urban renewal” in some areas that attracts commercial businesses.

    One thing that happens in Oakland I know with law enforcement (that the BATFE involvement in the arson investigations may highlight) is that a lot of sister law enforcement agencies other than the Oakland PD do a lot of work in Oakland. CHP often gets tapped for riot and crowd control duties there, and the Alameda County Sheriff (which also runs the jail) and CDCR (California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation) do a lot of crime control and suppression work inside Oakland as well.

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    I can remember going to Oakland on business right on the day when the Johannes Mehserle verdict was expected to be handed down. The city had warned the residents to stay inside and not to keep trash cans outside or locked up so protesters could not start fires by throwing lit cans into windows. I just kept thinking how they could have sent a stronger signal if they told people to stock up on ammunition for their AR 15s and stake out sniper blinds on their roofs.
  78. @Thomas

    I’d imagine its not great for house prices and street crime is higher than most people would like.
     
    Most of Oakland's population rents and the city has rent control, so house prices are at best irrelevant to them, or at worst they have a potential interest in real estate not getting too valuable (which would make their landlord more likely to sell and the property to be redeveloped, kicking them out). Steve's original post highlights opposition to gentrification there. Even with that though, the priapic state of coastal California real estate values (and Bay Area real estate values in particular) means that little slows down the rise in value. Oakland is across the Bay Bridge and a BART (metro) line from San Francisco, and is about an hour's drive away from Silicon Valley, and the climate is generally superior (sunnier and less foggy) than San Francisco's, so it's very naturally valuable land. Much of the expensive housing though throughout the East Bay (where Oakland is) has been in the hills, generally somewhat separated from the crime and poverty in the "flats," so there's somewhat of a natural geographic barrier protecting some of the better real estate from the worst.

    As far as crime goes, it's never been good in Oakland, but it generally stays restricted to particular elements and particular neighborhoods that the hipsters and commuters know not to get involved in. There are large tracts in East Oakland (the Deep East) and West Oakland (the "Lower Bottoms" and "Ghost Town") that are heavily crime ridden, but it's the typical quasi-suburban California pattern of ghetto gang- and drug-related crime you get similar to Los Angeles that mostly keeps to the parties concerned most of the time. The Town has had a rash of flash mob-style robberies on BART this year, but the typical remedy for most people in busy downtown areas is just to avoid your typical groups of "youths" and "teens" doing their thing.

    The people who always seemed the worst affected to me were anyone trying to run a retail-level business in Oakland. The typical expectation is that most things outside the busiest neighborhoods close around 9pm for fear of crime. There was an epidemic of takeover-style robberies of restaurant customers a few summers ago (that was ultimately traced back to one West Oakland crew) that hurt the restaurant business for awhile. There's also the problem of regular rioting over the last few years in Oakland over... well anything (Occupy, Black Lives Matter, you name it) that creates problems for business (smashed windows and other damage, lost business). Oakland could do just fine as basically a bedroom community without a lot of its own night time dining and entertainment and leave that to San Francisco (or Berkeley and Emeryville, a small town next to Oakland at the foot of the Bay Bridge that's basically just a giant shopping center and office park) but BART stops running around 1 am, and since Jerry Brown's mayoralty, the city has tried to promote a lot of "urban renewal" in some areas that attracts commercial businesses.

    One thing that happens in Oakland I know with law enforcement (that the BATFE involvement in the arson investigations may highlight) is that a lot of sister law enforcement agencies other than the Oakland PD do a lot of work in Oakland. CHP often gets tapped for riot and crowd control duties there, and the Alameda County Sheriff (which also runs the jail) and CDCR (California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation) do a lot of crime control and suppression work inside Oakland as well.

    I can remember going to Oakland on business right on the day when the Johannes Mehserle verdict was expected to be handed down. The city had warned the residents to stay inside and not to keep trash cans outside or locked up so protesters could not start fires by throwing lit cans into windows. I just kept thinking how they could have sent a stronger signal if they told people to stock up on ammunition for their AR 15s and stake out sniper blinds on their roofs.

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  79. The part of Emeryville Oakland is one of the most neglected and crime infested area in the nation. Developments in proper housing and businesses has been going on full scale in Emeryville, parts of Berkeley, and now space is running out and prices have sky-rocketed. So West Oakland is the only cheap and contiguous area around. Who are the arsonists? The criminals, the dispossessed, or those few that cashed out and left for greener pastures? Developers and Insurance?

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  80. @Mr. Rational

    “Why has the municipality not been annexed by a more successful polity?”
     
    Thus enfranchising the very voters who put in the pols who created Oakland's condition, but over THEIR area too.

    What Oakland needs is either an emergency manager able to rule by fiat, or a steep poll tax.

    When I said “annexed”, rest assured that I was not including enfranchisement, and I thought “emergency manager able to rule by fiat” and “steep poll tax” both went without saying.

    A few commenters speculated as to why anyone would want to rule these “problem children”, so to speak. Well first, I was assuming a base level of (paternalistic) concern for their welfare as compatriots, and second, the Poor are a gold mine.

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  81. @27 year old
    Aw crap, please tell me we're not about to have Terry Shiavo II up in here...

    You are right, I should not have replied. There are a thousand other websites on which to litigate that issue. Best to stick to discussing things that are truly deplorable.

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  82. @Flip
    I thought OJ was from Potrero in SF.

    And OJs picture is still on that neighborhood field house in SF , faded but identifiable. I try to include a drive by when visitors come to town. When the subject comes up in mixed company, (and not much anymore) I like to say that the killing should not have happened because OJ should have been in jail after committing the crime of being a terrible Monday Night Football announcer.
    People still think OJ didn’t do it and Christopher Darden is a incompetent traitor.

    Then there frumpy dumpy Jerry Garcia look alike that I met at a party in 1984. He said he went High School with OJ and everyday for 4 years he had to give up his ice cream money. But that is only what I was told.

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  83. This is OT, but fyi. Zionists are not pro open borders or anti-West, the problem is that most American Jews are liberals. Most Israeli, Russian, Sephardi Jews have views largely in line with yours.

    Vast majority of American Jews (who voted 75% against Trump and %70 for Hillary) are liberal Zionists in favor of open borders for the West and closed borders for Israel.

    First time I’m seeing an argument implying that this doesn’t exist because it would be hypocritical; points for innovation.

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  84. @Dee
    Oakland is in the best place in the Bay Area. Weather is great, not too hot, not too cold. SF is 20 minutes away over the Bay Bridge. Go 20 minutes north or south and there's a bridge going to Marin or the Peninsula.

    It's centrally located in other words.

    All it needs is a way to remove the correct 60% of the current population; if you know what I mean, and I think you do....

    Then the peeps that bought real estate cheap will see a 1000% jump in value. Even the 60% can see the handwriting on the wall about that, so burn down half built high rises and make sure Oakland's piss poor reputation for crime is reported on a daily basis..

    Google, Fakebook, other Silicon Valley employers pay for Greyhound style buses that pick up 60 workers in Oakland and take them 50 miles to their jobs. And there are multiple buses each day, so it's a big deal.

    The feral locals have been demonstrating at the bus stops in Oakland to show their disgust....

    Our host has mentioned numerous times how in 50 years, the ancestors of the current population will be amazed at all the great places they used to live in. But are now out in the Central Valley, where nothing is close, the weather sucks most of the year, but if befits their station in life..

    All it needs is a way to remove the correct 60% of the current population; if you know what I mean, and I think you do….

    Wouldn’t that 60% be happier departed, if you could just push through their false consciousness that they’re happier extant?

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  85. @jJay
    While the cause of the latest blaze is not known....

    Chinese lightning? Oakland, the land of OJ Simpson, is being purchased, little by little, by Chinese Americans and Chinese nationals. I dare you to rent an apartment in Oakland that doesn't have a Chinese landlord. Not news, this has been going on for decades.

    the Chinese may ensure that blacks are gone from Oakland in about a generation.
    Mexicans can do it faster.

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  86. @Jim Don Bob
    I know who Eric Clapton is (God), but who is Eric Clanton?

    Eric Clanton is the bike lock assailant; smacked a guy over the head with a heavy bike lock during one of the antifa riots in Berkeley.

    Even though he was wearing a mask and sun glasses, the weaponized autistics at Reddit figured out who he was and reported it to the world. It took the cops a month, but they finally did arrest him and he’s sitting in the county jail….

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  87. @jJay
    While the cause of the latest blaze is not known....

    Chinese lightning? Oakland, the land of OJ Simpson, is being purchased, little by little, by Chinese Americans and Chinese nationals. I dare you to rent an apartment in Oakland that doesn't have a Chinese landlord. Not news, this has been going on for decades.

    Brazen real estate trend.

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  88. @YetAnotherAnon
    OT, but Charlie Gard's* mother has just said on BBC radio that the intervention of Trump and the Pope is all that's kept her son alive ("they've saved his life").

    (* the UK baby with a genetic condition who the doctors want to kill 'in the child's best interests', a ruling upheld by the UK and EU's courts)

    The discussion about Charlie Gard has been around the rights of his parents versus those of the state to determine his fate, etc., but I haven’t seen (granted I haven’t dug deeply) any discussion of who is paying.

    Is the scenario that the U.K. government is literally ordering him killed/taken off life support, or that the state-funded medical system has decided that this is the course of action it will take as long as it’s footing the bill? In other words, are the parents free to continue sustaining the poor lad’s life — or trying some of these experimental treatments — if they want to bear the expense, or is the state actually barring them from doing so?

    Perhaps these two questions are synonymous when health care is provided on a monopoly basis by the government. And one could offer a legitimate opinion, I suppose, that a rich society should never deny life-extending treatment to a child regardless of cost. But I find it troubling that the media and opportunistic politicians on both sides of the Atlantic seem to transition seamlessly between the ideas that “the state shouldn’t be allowed to ‘kill’ Charlie Gard” and “the taxpayers must fund a hopeless case indefinitely.”

    (For example, the article I’ve linked is titled “Charlie Gard: UK judge gives parents two days to prove son should be kept alive” but doesn’t append the words “at taxpayer expense”; indeed the article obscures the issues of funding.)

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    "Is the scenario that the U.K. government is literally ordering him killed/taken off life support, or that the state-funded medical system has decided that this is the course of action it will take as long as it’s footing the bill?"

    The former. They have offers of treatment abroad paid for by other people.
  89. anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    A couple of decades ago, or something like that, Oakland was basically broke, though it might not have gone through the legal nicety.

    So it has had its problems, like the endless police spectacle.

    “The Latest: Federal judge optimistic for Oakland police”, The Washington Post, 10 July 2017:

    “…A federal judge who oversees the Oakland Police Department says he is optimistic that the department can recover from a sexual misconduct scandal…

    U.S. District Judge… said Monday it appears the department is close to complying with all the reforms he ordered as part of 2003 settlement of an unrelated police corruption scandal

    …he wants to increase the court’s monitoring of the police department…

    …Civil rights lawyers say a federal judge should consider holding Oakland, California, city and police officials in contempt of court…”

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  90. @EdwardM
    The discussion about Charlie Gard has been around the rights of his parents versus those of the state to determine his fate, etc., but I haven't seen (granted I haven't dug deeply) any discussion of who is paying.

    Is the scenario that the U.K. government is literally ordering him killed/taken off life support, or that the state-funded medical system has decided that this is the course of action it will take as long as it's footing the bill? In other words, are the parents free to continue sustaining the poor lad's life -- or trying some of these experimental treatments -- if they want to bear the expense, or is the state actually barring them from doing so?

    Perhaps these two questions are synonymous when health care is provided on a monopoly basis by the government. And one could offer a legitimate opinion, I suppose, that a rich society should never deny life-extending treatment to a child regardless of cost. But I find it troubling that the media and opportunistic politicians on both sides of the Atlantic seem to transition seamlessly between the ideas that "the state shouldn't be allowed to 'kill' Charlie Gard" and "the taxpayers must fund a hopeless case indefinitely."

    (For example, the article I've linked is titled "Charlie Gard: UK judge gives parents two days to prove son should be kept alive" but doesn't append the words "at taxpayer expense"; indeed the article obscures the issues of funding.)

    “Is the scenario that the U.K. government is literally ordering him killed/taken off life support, or that the state-funded medical system has decided that this is the course of action it will take as long as it’s footing the bill?”

    The former. They have offers of treatment abroad paid for by other people.

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