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From the New York Post:

Americans make racist assumptions based on names, study finds

By David K. Li October 7, 2015 | 9:42am

Americans draw racist conclusions about people they’ve never met just by learning their names, according to researchers who were “disgusted” by their own findings.

The study, published in the journal Evolution and Human Behavior, asked subjects to describe their feelings about imaginary characters with stereotypical white names, such as Connor and Wyatt, and stereotypical black names, such as Jamal and DeShawn.

“I’ve never been so disgusted with my own data,” said lead author Colin Holbrook, an anthropologist at UCLA.

Test subjects were read a short story about a man — with either a stereotypical white name or black name — being bumped at a bar, and then verbally berated.

Test subjects were then asked to describe what they imagined that man to look like and what he did in response to that contact and verbal assault.

“A character with a black-sounding name was assumed to be physically larger, more prone to aggression, and lower in status than a character with a white-sounding name,” said Holbrook.

I’m struck by how uncool people are these days.

Can you imagine Charlie Parker or Humphrey Bogart or James Dean or John Lennon or Steve McQueen or Lou Reed saying, “I’ve never been so disgusted with my own data”? (Granted, they are all now dead. But, still, they were cool while they lasted.)

 
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  1. ““I’ve never been so disgusted with my own data,” said lead author Colin Holbrook, an anthropologist at UCLA.”

    And then he fainted.

    • Replies: @Bastion
    I'm pretty sure all UCLA offices are (by law) equipped with fainting couches, so luckily no professors were harmed during this episode.
  2. This might be a good place for me to tell my Jamal story. Jamal organized an over-30 basketball team, and invited me to play on the otherwise all-black squad. He said it was $30 per man for the entrance fee and uniform, and I wrote him a check on the spot. After the “season” was over, he said to me, “You know something? You’re the only guy who paid me.”

    • Replies: @Lovernios X
    This might be a good place for my basketball story. When I was in my teens and twenties I played street ball down at the school yard. Most of the guys that hung out there were black, perhaps two of us were white. Most often we’d play 2 on two or three on three half court games with street rules. You’d call your own fouls, but they better be hard fouls or you’d be branded a pussy. I’m 5’ 6” so you would think I’d be last to be picked, but most often I’d get picked early. I was fast, good at stealing, but most importantly I could feed them the ball down low and set them up for an easy layup or a dunk.

    No “typical” black names, just Bill, Gene, George, Grant, Arnold, Marty, Rick, Thomas. Good athletes, funny bastards, gregarious - quick with a joke or wise crack, loyal to their friends (even the white ones), generous, vain, jealous. Why did I play there? It’s where I grew up.
    , @Anonymous
    You're white, aren't you?
  3. The pathetic snowflake should resign and work at an inner city day care.

  4. I Wanna Be Black by Lou Reed (1978)

    I want to be black
    Have natural rhythm
    Shoot twenty feet of jism, too
    And fuck up Jews
    I want to be black
    I want to be a Panther
    Have a girlfriend named Samantha
    And have a stable of foxy whores
    Oh I want to be black

  5. I bet Colin Holbrook lives in a mostly white neighborhood, far from scary low status blacks who he assumes are prone to aggression.

    I looked up a picture of Colin Holbrook. Every white soft and weak looking guy like him that I know are scared shirtless of blacks and avoid them like the plague.

    • Replies: @Glaivester
    very white soft and weak looking guy like him that I know are scared shirtless of blacks and avoid them like the plague.

    Don't you mean scared Shitavious-less?
  6. A character with a black-sounding name was assumed to be physically larger, more prone to aggression, and lower in status than a character with a white-sounding name

    Aren’t all of these assumptions justified? Isn’t one of the main liberal complaints that blacks are kept low status because of racism? Different races are obviously different in size. As for aggression, unless you’re taking advantage of the cheap real estate in black neighborhoods, then you are tacitly agreeing with this assumption as well.

  7. stereotypical white names, such as Connor and Wyatt

    Wyatt Earp hung out in saloons, which led him to get into a famous gunfight, in which he shot three thugs to death. That historically true story resonates with the case study’s racism-proving story.

    I remember watching the television show The Life and Legend of Wyatt Earp, which was broadcast during the years 1955-1961 and starred the handsome actor Hugh O’Brian as the heroic lawman. Therefore the name Wyatt strikes a masculine bell in my mind.

    The name DeShawn Earp for a dramatic character would strike me initially as a faggy, drag-queen Black who would screech comically if he/she were bumped and berated in a bar.

    • Replies: @Vendetta
    I knew a Wyatt in high school who was about five foot three, emo looking, and as gay as they come.

    Never really been able to respect that name properly anymore.
    , @Chris Mallory
    The Earps were known as "The Fighting Pimps". Wyatt was just as much of a thug as anyone he ever shot.
    , @Tex
    I suppose if the researcher set his hypothetical situation in Tombstone in the 1880s, one might well have a different basis for judging what's a racist stereotype and what's just a stereotype. I really doubt an 1880s test population would have given the same answers. Things have changed just a smidge in the last 135 years.
  8. A friend of mine who works in corrections says he wants to title his memoirs How Many Ways Can You Spell Antoine?

    • Agree: Daniel Williams
    • Replies: @Bastion
    With or without apostrophes?
    , @Thomas Fuller
    When you say "corrections", are you talking about line-editing or the prison service?
  9. Not only are these researchers uncool, they’re so princessy they can’t even manage to gin up some rightous outrage at the ‘racism’ they’ve uncovered. Lefty researchers even just a few years ago would have relished such findings because they provide ammunition for attacking the people they hate. But now a give-me-a-trigger-warning, help-me-avoid-the-taboo reaction seems to set in first . . . .

  10. Colin Holbrook is obviously a racist, because otherwise why would it even have occurred to him to have conducted a study like this? What put this noxious idea into his head? It’s inherently problematic. UCLA, I demand you expunge this obvious racist from your faculty. He is a disgrace to the study of anthropology.

    • Replies: @Thomas Fuller
    Not only problematic, but unacceptable :-)
    , @International Jew

    Colin Holbrook is obviously a racist, because otherwise why would it even have occurred to him to have conducted a study like this?
     
    It's ok if he can show that Republican voters are more likely to believe those scary stereotypes.

    I'm surprised he got the results he reported. 99% of Americans are by now conditioned to banish those stereotypes from their thoughts, and failing that to at least never admit to them. You're supposed to imagine a Jumaul busy detecting new subatomic particles, while Connor is planning a school massacre.
    , @Forbes
    Colin should consider changing his name--it's too close to Connor, the racist whitey. If only to convince others of the sincerity of his scholarship...
    , @jtgw
    LOL! That was fucking brilliant.
  11. Priss Factor [AKA "skiapolemistis"] says:

    “I’ve never been so disgusted with my own data,”

    If ‘Jamal Jackson’ said it, I’d assume he is an angry black guy.

    If ‘Colin Holbrooke’ said it, I’d assume he is a white cuckeral.

    I’m the only true race-ist.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    If ‘Colin Holbrooke’ said it, I’d assume he is a white cuckeral.

     

    "I've never been tho dithguthted at my own data pointh!"

    With crackling sibilance.
  12. This isn’t research, this is a self-criticsm session. What possible point could there be of giving the characters names associated with one race but to draw out racial stereotypes. This was an opportunity for people to recognize an obvious situation to self censor with political correctness. But of course unless 100% did then q e d proof of disgusting racism.

    Jamal Jones is playing basketball one on one wih Ephraim Goldblatt. What do you predict the final score will be? Correct answer: tie game. Always and forever.

    • Replies: @bomag
    And whatever happened to the objective, detached scientist? Now we have "science" as social commentary; a way to insult people we don't like.
    , @Hibernian
    I think in the early days of the NBA some of the players were Jewish.
    , @ben tillman

    This isn’t research, this is a self-criticism session. What possible point could there be of giving the characters names associated with one race but to draw out racial stereotypes. This was an opportunity for people to recognize an obvious situation to self censor with political correctness. But of course unless 100% did then q e d proof of disgusting racism.
     
    Good point.
    , @Forbes
    Path breaking research: stereotypical name causes stereotypical reaction. Hmm...
  13. @CMB
    "“I’ve never been so disgusted with my own data,” said lead author Colin Holbrook, an anthropologist at UCLA."

    And then he fainted.

    I’m pretty sure all UCLA offices are (by law) equipped with fainting couches, so luckily no professors were harmed during this episode.

  14. @Harry Baldwin
    A friend of mine who works in corrections says he wants to title his memoirs How Many Ways Can You Spell Antoine?

    With or without apostrophes?

  15. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    No one forces black parents to choose freakish names. They choose them voluntarily, and it never seems to occur to anthropologists like Holbrook that black parents DELIBERATELY choose them to be different from typical white names.

    Black parents are trying to segregate their kids from white kids by every method they can manage. They harass their kids if they try to talk white. They harass their kids if they study and like to read, etc., etc. They call blacks ‘oreos’ if they act white in any way, shape, or form. Blacks simply don’t want to integrate at all. Boneheads like Holbrook are oblivious to this fact.

  16. @Mike Sylwester

    stereotypical white names, such as Connor and Wyatt
     
    Wyatt Earp hung out in saloons, which led him to get into a famous gunfight, in which he shot three thugs to death. That historically true story resonates with the case study's racism-proving story.

    I remember watching the television show The Life and Legend of Wyatt Earp, which was broadcast during the years 1955-1961 and starred the handsome actor Hugh O'Brian as the heroic lawman. Therefore the name Wyatt strikes a masculine bell in my mind.

    The name DeShawn Earp for a dramatic character would strike me initially as a faggy, drag-queen Black who would screech comically if he/she were bumped and berated in a bar.

    I knew a Wyatt in high school who was about five foot three, emo looking, and as gay as they come.

    Never really been able to respect that name properly anymore.

    • Replies: @A-Bax
    I met him too, Jesus.

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3VBowgkuUgc/UhBsPegIowI/AAAAAAAAF8o/zZQqHwRhfoY/s640/vlcsnap-2013-08-17-00h48m41s160.png
  17. [please delete my other comment]
    And if Colin Holbrook had instead used stereotypical Chinese names set against white names would he have gotten the exact same results — only this time:

    “A character with a white-sounding name was assumed to be physically larger, more prone to aggression, and lower in status than a character with a Chinese-sounding name,”

    ‘The horror! The horror!

  18. “Americans draw racist conclusions about people they’ve never met just by learning their names,”

    So if Americans saw my Italian last name, they would automatically assume I am either Cosa Nostra like The Sopranos, or a plumber like Mario & Luigi, or a chef like Chef Boyardee. They would automatically assume Razib Khan to be either an Islamic terrorist or a convenience store owner.

  19. Nah, I heard this sort of thing before. If there is some data that might be found racially uncomfortable, the researcher likes to preface with something like this guy, ” I have never been so disgusted with my data” and then they go ahead publish it to get the buzz it causes. It like using quotes around a thing to “distance the author from it”.

    • Replies: @SFG
    Exactly. He got a result he's not supposed to like, so he says he doesn't like it and then publishes it, because he's an academic, and publish or perish.
    , @NOTA
    Yeah, this reads to me as "don't blame me for my findings." It's hard to imagine they expected a different result.
    , @Thomas O. Meehan
    You beat me to it. Of course he had to insert that in his report. In the unipolar paranoid academic environment of today, had anyone objected to his "research" on insensitivity grounds, he would have been defenseless. Only such garlic and mirrors can the racism vampire be kept at bay.

    It's also probable in my opinion, that he knew what his "Research" would find and felt under pressure to publish something. What could be easier?
  20. I’ve never been so disgusted with anthropologists.

  21. WGG [AKA "World\'s Greatest Grandson"] says:

    Someone gave Jamal his name deliberately. His mother knew that the name Jamal was 1000x more likely to be a prison inmate’s first name than a CEO or Ivy League professor. Jamal’s mother was more interested in “keepin’ it real” and raised him accordingly.

    Names have connotations, even within just one race. Like white. Here are some connotations I would personally attach for some white names:

    Brayden: Beta, metrosexual, SWPL parents, spoiled

    Chance: White trash, lots of siblings, stupid, plays sports, aims low

    Melvin: Ugly (cute moms don’t name their sons Melvin, the name is so he doesn’t ever think he’s too good for the family- in case he happens to beat the hideous gene)

    Noah: Upper middle class, bookish

    Jackson: friendly, athletic

    Lance: creepy, pseudointellectual, larping parents took him to the Renaissance Fairs too young and made him weird

    There are plenty of normal names without obvious connotations like Chris, John, James, etc.

    • Replies: @Anonymous Nephew
    "Names have connotations"

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-363230/Chav-names-feared-teachers.html

    "These are the girls' names that made the teachers blanch - some with comments attached: Adrienne (kiss of death - spiteful, sneaky or both), Alanna, Ashleigh, Britney, Candice, Chantelle (spawn of the devil), Chelsie, Chelseigh, Chloe (nasty, spiteful). Cindy (always a pain in the a**e) Courtney, Cortnee, Cortnie (trouble), Danielle (a nightmare), Jade, Jodie, Jordan (pretty bad for a girl), Kayleigh (a pain), Keeley, Keira (live in fear), Kimberley, Kylie, Leanne, Leigh, Lou-Lou, Mia, Paige, Poppy (hyperactive and not very bright), Stacey, Tyler (lesson disrupter)."
    , @anowow
    Icelandic regulations about names make a lot of sense. There are lists of approved names.

    Many people should not be allowed to name their offspring according to whim/fad or alter the spelling.

    I'd add Dakota and Cheyenne to a list of proscribed names.

    Also what's with all the Russian diminutives like Sasha, Tanya, Tonya or Tasha? These are perfectly fine as nicknames, but there should be at least cultural disapproval of giving a person a nickname as a formal name. Same goes for girl's quasi-male names like Andi.

    Name a girl Tasha or Tanya and you might as well fill out a Walmart application as soon as she is born. Name her Dakota and be prepared to be a grandparent in 15-16 years.

  22. I look forward to the followup study involving male and female names. When subjucts assume the males are physically larger, that will prove rampant sexism.

  23. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I don’t get what’s racist about the position apparently taken by respondents.

    1. It’s obviously true

    Ok sure, but we all know that for mentally ill liberals the mere truth is not a defense against racism. but even by that standard this isn’t racist because:

    2. DeShawn is *happy* that he’s respected for not taking shit from people at a bar

    And I’m not going to say he’s wrong for feeling this way. DeShawns of the world at least have enough dignity to command a certain type of respect and yes this affects how they’re treated; I’m going to need a good reason to step to DeShawn and berate him in public because I will expect him to throw down when challenged.

    But even if you don’t like DeShawn’s culture or attitude of masculinity you at least have to say that *by his own lights* DeShawn is not being treated poorly by this respect of his principles.

  24. @Harry Baldwin
    A friend of mine who works in corrections says he wants to title his memoirs How Many Ways Can You Spell Antoine?

    When you say “corrections”, are you talking about line-editing or the prison service?

  25. @Harry Baldwin
    Colin Holbrook is obviously a racist, because otherwise why would it even have occurred to him to have conducted a study like this? What put this noxious idea into his head? It's inherently problematic. UCLA, I demand you expunge this obvious racist from your faculty. He is a disgrace to the study of anthropology.

    Not only problematic, but unacceptable 🙂

  26. I can imagine Bogart using that line. A variation on “I came for the waters,” “I was misinformed.” Or describing a dame that double-crossed him. John Lennon, too.

  27. Is “disgusted” now a euphemism for “had an orgasm”?

    • Replies: @Dennis Dale
    Yes, I believe the lady-boy doth recoil too much.
  28. @WGG
    Someone gave Jamal his name deliberately. His mother knew that the name Jamal was 1000x more likely to be a prison inmate's first name than a CEO or Ivy League professor. Jamal's mother was more interested in "keepin' it real" and raised him accordingly.

    Names have connotations, even within just one race. Like white. Here are some connotations I would personally attach for some white names:

    Brayden: Beta, metrosexual, SWPL parents, spoiled

    Chance: White trash, lots of siblings, stupid, plays sports, aims low

    Melvin: Ugly (cute moms don't name their sons Melvin, the name is so he doesn't ever think he's too good for the family- in case he happens to beat the hideous gene)

    Noah: Upper middle class, bookish

    Jackson: friendly, athletic

    Lance: creepy, pseudointellectual, larping parents took him to the Renaissance Fairs too young and made him weird


    There are plenty of normal names without obvious connotations like Chris, John, James, etc.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq1HNTem4tw

    “Names have connotations”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-363230/Chav-names-feared-teachers.html

    “These are the girls’ names that made the teachers blanch – some with comments attached: Adrienne (kiss of death – spiteful, sneaky or both), Alanna, Ashleigh, Britney, Candice, Chantelle (spawn of the devil), Chelsie, Chelseigh, Chloe (nasty, spiteful). Cindy (always a pain in the a**e) Courtney, Cortnee, Cortnie (trouble), Danielle (a nightmare), Jade, Jodie, Jordan (pretty bad for a girl), Kayleigh (a pain), Keeley, Keira (live in fear), Kimberley, Kylie, Leanne, Leigh, Lou-Lou, Mia, Paige, Poppy (hyperactive and not very bright), Stacey, Tyler (lesson disrupter).”

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    “These are the girls’ names that made the teachers blanch – some with comments attached: Adrienne (kiss of death – spiteful, sneaky or both),
    Alanna,
    Ashleigh,
    Britney,
    Candice,
    Chantelle (spawn of the devil),
    Chelsie,
    Chelseigh,
    Chloe (nasty, spiteful).
    Cindy (always a pain in the a**e)
    Courtney,
    Cortnee,
    Cortnie (trouble),
    Danielle (a nightmare),
    Jade,
    Jodie,
    Jordan (pretty bad for a girl),
    Kayleigh (a pain),
    Keeley
    ,
    Keira (live in fear),
    Kimberley,
    Kylie,
    Leanne,
    Leigh,
    Lou-Lou,
    Mia,
    Paige,
    Poppy (hyperactive and not very bright),
    Stacey
    ,
    Tyler (lesson disrupter).”


    So that is the real reason The Guardian campaigned to ban Page 3 girls.
    , @Anonymous

    “Names have connotations"
     
    Sometimes fine and bubbly. Here's an oldie but goodie:

    Navy marksman gets 84-to-life in gang shooting

    4:30 p.m. May 25, 2006
    SAN DIEGO – A former Navy marksman convicted of killing an 18-year-old man he perceived as a gang rival was sentenced Thursday to 84 years to life in state prison for the car-to-car shooting.
    Lawrence Christopher Smith, 25, was convicted March 30 of first-degree murder in the Nov. 26, 2004, death of Dom Perignon Champagne in southeast San Diego.

    A jury also found Smith guilty of attempted murder for pumping three shots into a cocaine dealer who owed him $80 on Sept. 12, 2004, and possession of marijuana for sale.

    Jurors deadlocked on murder charges against Jimmy Lopez, Smith's then-16-year-old passenger at the time of Champagne was shot.

    Lopez, now 18, pleaded guilty last week to shooting into an occupied vehicle and gang allegations and faces up to eight years in prison when he is sentenced July 13.
  29. @Mark Minter
    Nah, I heard this sort of thing before. If there is some data that might be found racially uncomfortable, the researcher likes to preface with something like this guy, " I have never been so disgusted with my data" and then they go ahead publish it to get the buzz it causes. It like using quotes around a thing to "distance the author from it".

    Exactly. He got a result he’s not supposed to like, so he says he doesn’t like it and then publishes it, because he’s an academic, and publish or perish.

  30. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous Nephew
    "Names have connotations"

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-363230/Chav-names-feared-teachers.html

    "These are the girls' names that made the teachers blanch - some with comments attached: Adrienne (kiss of death - spiteful, sneaky or both), Alanna, Ashleigh, Britney, Candice, Chantelle (spawn of the devil), Chelsie, Chelseigh, Chloe (nasty, spiteful). Cindy (always a pain in the a**e) Courtney, Cortnee, Cortnie (trouble), Danielle (a nightmare), Jade, Jodie, Jordan (pretty bad for a girl), Kayleigh (a pain), Keeley, Keira (live in fear), Kimberley, Kylie, Leanne, Leigh, Lou-Lou, Mia, Paige, Poppy (hyperactive and not very bright), Stacey, Tyler (lesson disrupter)."

    “These are the girls’ names that made the teachers blanch – some with comments attached: Adrienne (kiss of death – spiteful, sneaky or both),
    Alanna,
    Ashleigh,
    Britney,
    Candice,
    Chantelle (spawn of the devil),
    Chelsie,
    Chelseigh,
    Chloe (nasty, spiteful).
    Cindy (always a pain in the a**e)
    Courtney,
    Cortnee,
    Cortnie (trouble),
    Danielle (a nightmare),
    Jade,
    Jodie,
    Jordan (pretty bad for a girl),
    Kayleigh (a pain),
    Keeley
    ,
    Keira (live in fear),
    Kimberley,
    Kylie,
    Leanne,
    Leigh,
    Lou-Lou,
    Mia,
    Paige,
    Poppy (hyperactive and not very bright),
    Stacey
    ,
    Tyler (lesson disrupter).”

    So that is the real reason The Guardian campaigned to ban Page 3 girls.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar


    John Lennon cool?

    Are you serious?

    The pussy-whipped author of "Imagine"?
     
    1974 wasn't 1964.
  31. Off Topic: These kids were geniuses — they were just too poor for anyone to discover them

    For decades, the state of Florida has tried to increase access to gifted education. Broward is one of many Florida counties that maintains two sets of standards for gifted students. Most children have to score at least 130 on the state-mandated IQ test — roughly in the top five percent — to qualify. But children still learning English, and those from low-income households, only have to score 116.

    Hat Tip: When Neighborhoods Gentrify, Why Aren’t Their Public Schools Improving?

  32. @415 reasons
    This isn't research, this is a self-criticsm session. What possible point could there be of giving the characters names associated with one race but to draw out racial stereotypes. This was an opportunity for people to recognize an obvious situation to self censor with political correctness. But of course unless 100% did then q e d proof of disgusting racism.

    Jamal Jones is playing basketball one on one wih Ephraim Goldblatt. What do you predict the final score will be? Correct answer: tie game. Always and forever.

    And whatever happened to the objective, detached scientist? Now we have “science” as social commentary; a way to insult people we don’t like.

  33. @freddysac
    I bet Colin Holbrook lives in a mostly white neighborhood, far from scary low status blacks who he assumes are prone to aggression.

    I looked up a picture of Colin Holbrook. Every white soft and weak looking guy like him that I know are scared shirtless of blacks and avoid them like the plague.

    very white soft and weak looking guy like him that I know are scared shirtless of blacks and avoid them like the plague.

    Don’t you mean scared Shitavious-less?

  34. @Mike Sylwester

    stereotypical white names, such as Connor and Wyatt
     
    Wyatt Earp hung out in saloons, which led him to get into a famous gunfight, in which he shot three thugs to death. That historically true story resonates with the case study's racism-proving story.

    I remember watching the television show The Life and Legend of Wyatt Earp, which was broadcast during the years 1955-1961 and starred the handsome actor Hugh O'Brian as the heroic lawman. Therefore the name Wyatt strikes a masculine bell in my mind.

    The name DeShawn Earp for a dramatic character would strike me initially as a faggy, drag-queen Black who would screech comically if he/she were bumped and berated in a bar.

    The Earps were known as “The Fighting Pimps”. Wyatt was just as much of a thug as anyone he ever shot.

  35. Its just the latest iteration of The Vagina Monologue.

    joeyjoejoe

  36. @415 reasons
    This isn't research, this is a self-criticsm session. What possible point could there be of giving the characters names associated with one race but to draw out racial stereotypes. This was an opportunity for people to recognize an obvious situation to self censor with political correctness. But of course unless 100% did then q e d proof of disgusting racism.

    Jamal Jones is playing basketball one on one wih Ephraim Goldblatt. What do you predict the final score will be? Correct answer: tie game. Always and forever.

    I think in the early days of the NBA some of the players were Jewish.

    • Replies: @International Jew

    I think in the early days of the NBA some of the players were Jewish.
     
    Yup. Also, we have ask how it happened that Ephraim Goldblatt came to play basketball with Jamal Jones. Goldblatt is no random Jewish kid, he's likely the most bad-assed Jew in town, maybe half-black and visiting the ghetto to find high-quality competition. Jamal, meanwhile, is the lowest-status black kid around -- so low-status the other black kids don't want to play with him.

    So the answer is, Ephraim 21, Jamal 9.
    , @Stan D Mute

    I think in the early days of the NBA some of the players were Jewish.
     
    Raanan Katz was a Jewish superstar on the Israeli team. He almost made it to the court in America. He then turned his meager semi-pro earnings into a billion dollar real estate empire. http://www.rkcenters.com/rk-centers-raanan-katz-history.php

    There are some things that Jews are particularly good at and some things Africans are particularly good at. Yikes, I sure hope no anthropology professors are reading this .. I'd hate to be responsible for the resulting conniptions.
  37. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous Nephew
    "Names have connotations"

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-363230/Chav-names-feared-teachers.html

    "These are the girls' names that made the teachers blanch - some with comments attached: Adrienne (kiss of death - spiteful, sneaky or both), Alanna, Ashleigh, Britney, Candice, Chantelle (spawn of the devil), Chelsie, Chelseigh, Chloe (nasty, spiteful). Cindy (always a pain in the a**e) Courtney, Cortnee, Cortnie (trouble), Danielle (a nightmare), Jade, Jodie, Jordan (pretty bad for a girl), Kayleigh (a pain), Keeley, Keira (live in fear), Kimberley, Kylie, Leanne, Leigh, Lou-Lou, Mia, Paige, Poppy (hyperactive and not very bright), Stacey, Tyler (lesson disrupter)."

    “Names have connotations”

    Sometimes fine and bubbly. Here’s an oldie but goodie:

    Navy marksman gets 84-to-life in gang shooting

    4:30 p.m. May 25, 2006
    SAN DIEGO – A former Navy marksman convicted of killing an 18-year-old man he perceived as a gang rival was sentenced Thursday to 84 years to life in state prison for the car-to-car shooting.
    Lawrence Christopher Smith, 25, was convicted March 30 of first-degree murder in the Nov. 26, 2004, death of Dom Perignon Champagne in southeast San Diego.

    A jury also found Smith guilty of attempted murder for pumping three shots into a cocaine dealer who owed him $80 on Sept. 12, 2004, and possession of marijuana for sale.

    Jurors deadlocked on murder charges against Jimmy Lopez, Smith’s then-16-year-old passenger at the time of Champagne was shot.

    Lopez, now 18, pleaded guilty last week to shooting into an occupied vehicle and gang allegations and faces up to eight years in prison when he is sentenced July 13.

  38. People do not know how to communicate on a certain subject and decide to remain silent out of sheer verbal incompetence and fear.

    They mistake, intentional or not, depends on the case, racism with freedom of expression, but all those pseudo-paradoxes can be screened for elite lunatics who imposed him this training.

    Racism, as said a brazilian blogger who is a lawyer, is characterized mainly and perhaps essentially the denial of a person’s rights because of their race. For example, denying work.

    If someone accuse you of racism you can accuse him of denying him the right to freedom of expression, simple, and that consists of the most basic rights in a democracy.

    But in a demo (oligo) racy, things may be different.

    The alienation happens when the neighbor is less important than the boss.

    Stratify social classes is a good way to break any possibility of collective resistance against nepotism of the idiots ever.

    And the most pathetic of all is that the same cathedratics who rightly accuse the Catholic Church of trying to suppress the truth / reality for centuries, are the ones who are doing the same thing now. What’s the problem these people **

    I know that ‘some’ of them are ” only ” anti-social personality. But what intrigues me most is about the leftist who is cognitively intelligent and extremely naive, the real leftist (deaftist). It surpasses all limits of irrationality just for this type of very contradictory attitude.

    When I realize that I came into contradiction, which is almost the same as ” being stupid ”, my face blushes with shame.

    People need to understand that the truths need not be seen as a bad thing, like thorns.

    Everything that works is a piece of truth.

  39. From the same article:

    “The researchers performed similar comparisons with Latino and East Asian names, with participants saying members of the former group were larger, more violent, and lower in socioeconomic status.”

    A Filipino guy I know once told me he was often mistaken for Latino. I told him he should play that up for all it’s worth.

  40. If it’s any consolation, black folks know that stupid negro names are picked by stupid negro people.

    Twenty years ago a joke email was making the rounds of the hi-yalla, Talented-Tenth, Jack and Jill, Alpha Kappa Alpha community.

    The email subject was “Ten Ways to Tell if You are a Hootchie Mama”.

    Item 10 read, “You named your son Anfernee ‘because thass how it sound’ “.

    One of the primary reasons Jack and Jill exists is to keep middle class black kids segregated from De’travious and La’Quanisha.

  41. Yeah I get disgusted too.

    Driving in Detroit the other day I was contemplating what areas are no mans land and which ones are reasonably safe. The area I was in was the southwest side which is mostly hispanic. Mentally I gave it a high score for safety , comparatively speaking.

    Get home and read the news that a 45 year old white male was shot and killed with five bullets. His crime was honking once and then trying to go around a white Cadillac who was holding him up.

    I wonder what his name was?

  42. @Mark Minter
    Nah, I heard this sort of thing before. If there is some data that might be found racially uncomfortable, the researcher likes to preface with something like this guy, " I have never been so disgusted with my data" and then they go ahead publish it to get the buzz it causes. It like using quotes around a thing to "distance the author from it".

    Yeah, this reads to me as “don’t blame me for my findings.” It’s hard to imagine they expected a different result.

  43. @415 reasons
    This isn't research, this is a self-criticsm session. What possible point could there be of giving the characters names associated with one race but to draw out racial stereotypes. This was an opportunity for people to recognize an obvious situation to self censor with political correctness. But of course unless 100% did then q e d proof of disgusting racism.

    Jamal Jones is playing basketball one on one wih Ephraim Goldblatt. What do you predict the final score will be? Correct answer: tie game. Always and forever.

    This isn’t research, this is a self-criticism session. What possible point could there be of giving the characters names associated with one race but to draw out racial stereotypes. This was an opportunity for people to recognize an obvious situation to self censor with political correctness. But of course unless 100% did then q e d proof of disgusting racism.

    Good point.

  44. Many black families really do purposefully choose “normal” names without negative connotations. Some blacks criticize other blacks for giving their babies “ghetto names”.

    From http://www.babycenter.com/0_popular-african-american-names_10329236.bc

    The top African American boy names are: Anthony, Brandon, Caleb, Cameron, Christian, Christopher, Daniel, David, etc. Of course, there is much more variance among the non-traditional names so they won’t make a top name list.

    Some black parents quite purposefully choose “ethnic” segregated names with bad connotations.

    It is absurd to expect society at large to bend over backwards to erase the natural and often subconscious connotations associated with certain names to accommodate the families that insist on picking them.

    Consider the pink mohawk analogy: Most people who wear a dyed mohawk will experience broad negative discrimination if they go for most job interviews. One could argue that mohawks don’t affect job performance, and there are many great workers for for some weird reason insist on wearing a dyed mohawk. But clearly, I would advise individuals to not wear a dyed mohawk to most jobs and job interviews, and it would be absurd to expect society at large to turn itself inside out to eliminate discrimination against dyed mohawks.

  45. @Vendetta
    I knew a Wyatt in high school who was about five foot three, emo looking, and as gay as they come.

    Never really been able to respect that name properly anymore.

    I met him too, Jesus.

  46. @Mike Sylwester

    stereotypical white names, such as Connor and Wyatt
     
    Wyatt Earp hung out in saloons, which led him to get into a famous gunfight, in which he shot three thugs to death. That historically true story resonates with the case study's racism-proving story.

    I remember watching the television show The Life and Legend of Wyatt Earp, which was broadcast during the years 1955-1961 and starred the handsome actor Hugh O'Brian as the heroic lawman. Therefore the name Wyatt strikes a masculine bell in my mind.

    The name DeShawn Earp for a dramatic character would strike me initially as a faggy, drag-queen Black who would screech comically if he/she were bumped and berated in a bar.

    I suppose if the researcher set his hypothetical situation in Tombstone in the 1880s, one might well have a different basis for judging what’s a racist stereotype and what’s just a stereotype. I really doubt an 1880s test population would have given the same answers. Things have changed just a smidge in the last 135 years.

    • Replies: @Tex
    Never mind, I am suffering from an irony deficiency today.
  47. The paper is here:
    http://cholbrook01.bol.ucla.edu/Holbrook_Fessler_Navarrete_Status_Threat_Size_EHB.pdf

    There was more difference between Asian and mestizo names than between black and white names. They didn’t break out the results by the race of the study participants.

    “Participants and overview of procedure. 300 U.S. participants were recruited via Amazon’s MechanicalTurk.com survey platform in exchange for $0.50. Data were pre-screened for completeness, repeat participation, and correctly answering a “catch question”. The final sample consisted of 249 adults (43.8% female; 71.9% White) ranging in age from 18 to 65 (M =31.53, SD = 11.43).”

  48. If it’s any consolation, I doubt he means it. A researcher expressing reflexive horror at the shocking, shocking I say, news that people Notice is no more unusual than a Presidential candidate kissing babies and eating pork chops at the Iowa state fair.

  49. Check out the defendants’ names at London’s Central Criminal Court (The Old Bailey). You’ll see the same pattern in all the English Crown Courts.

    http://xhibit.justice.gov.uk/xhibit/centralcriminalcourt.htm

  50. WHAT HE MEANS IS: “I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO DISGUSTED WITH THE TRUTH.”

    His data reflects the TRUTH, because that is what he set out to find, to do research, is to find some facts and data. So if he is disgusted with his data, it means he is disgusted with the truth.

    This is the power of brainwashing by the MSM—people are losing their common sense and so out of touch with reality, they are shocked by the obvious.

  51. A soft science for soft minds.

  52. You know, there is an accidental admission in that “my own data” line. Is there an expectation that your data should obey like a dutiful child?

  53. If blacks do not want to be stigmatized in this fashion they should stop giving their children these ridiculous, made up names. May I suggest they return to the traditional American custom of using names from the Bible or respected historical figures? Sorry, if your name is DeGonoringus and you wear your pants around your ankles, I don’t want to know you, much less hire you. Life is too short. Oh, and drop the Kwanzaa nonsense too.

  54. @Marty
    This might be a good place for me to tell my Jamal story. Jamal organized an over-30 basketball team, and invited me to play on the otherwise all-black squad. He said it was $30 per man for the entrance fee and uniform, and I wrote him a check on the spot. After the "season" was over, he said to me, "You know something? You're the only guy who paid me."

    This might be a good place for my basketball story. When I was in my teens and twenties I played street ball down at the school yard. Most of the guys that hung out there were black, perhaps two of us were white. Most often we’d play 2 on two or three on three half court games with street rules. You’d call your own fouls, but they better be hard fouls or you’d be branded a pussy. I’m 5’ 6” so you would think I’d be last to be picked, but most often I’d get picked early. I was fast, good at stealing, but most importantly I could feed them the ball down low and set them up for an easy layup or a dunk.

    No “typical” black names, just Bill, Gene, George, Grant, Arnold, Marty, Rick, Thomas. Good athletes, funny bastards, gregarious – quick with a joke or wise crack, loyal to their friends (even the white ones), generous, vain, jealous. Why did I play there? It’s where I grew up.

  55. @WGG
    Someone gave Jamal his name deliberately. His mother knew that the name Jamal was 1000x more likely to be a prison inmate's first name than a CEO or Ivy League professor. Jamal's mother was more interested in "keepin' it real" and raised him accordingly.

    Names have connotations, even within just one race. Like white. Here are some connotations I would personally attach for some white names:

    Brayden: Beta, metrosexual, SWPL parents, spoiled

    Chance: White trash, lots of siblings, stupid, plays sports, aims low

    Melvin: Ugly (cute moms don't name their sons Melvin, the name is so he doesn't ever think he's too good for the family- in case he happens to beat the hideous gene)

    Noah: Upper middle class, bookish

    Jackson: friendly, athletic

    Lance: creepy, pseudointellectual, larping parents took him to the Renaissance Fairs too young and made him weird


    There are plenty of normal names without obvious connotations like Chris, John, James, etc.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq1HNTem4tw

    Icelandic regulations about names make a lot of sense. There are lists of approved names.

    Many people should not be allowed to name their offspring according to whim/fad or alter the spelling.

    I’d add Dakota and Cheyenne to a list of proscribed names.

    Also what’s with all the Russian diminutives like Sasha, Tanya, Tonya or Tasha? These are perfectly fine as nicknames, but there should be at least cultural disapproval of giving a person a nickname as a formal name. Same goes for girl’s quasi-male names like Andi.

    Name a girl Tasha or Tanya and you might as well fill out a Walmart application as soon as she is born. Name her Dakota and be prepared to be a grandparent in 15-16 years.

    • Replies: @WGG
    Yes, agreed. What we were both getting at in our comments is that Jamal and DeAndre are not just black names, they are *ghetto* black names.

    I can think of a few mens' names which I think are primarily black names (maybe 20:1 black to white ratio/ aggregate mean ) which don't necessarily connote a ghetto thug. Here is my list of neutral black mens' names:

    Luther
    Leon
    Curtis
    Darnell
    Daryl
    Darius
    Marcus
    Ronald
    Calvin


    On the fence: Leroy or LeRoy. Kind of sounds like he might be into property crime but not really dangerous or violent.

    Lots of stereotyping, but it's based on a little bit of truth. I'm sure there are many more.
    , @Stan D Mute

    Icelandic regulations about names make a lot of sense. There are lists of approved names.

    Many people should not be allowed to name their offspring according to whim/fad or alter the spelling
     
    .

    I disagree. The stupid names signal to us that the person had a stupid mother. And since apples typically fall directly beneath their tree, the stupid name is highly likely to identify a stupid person. When I see a Shitavious or Ta'Neezy, I know my time will be more productively spent contemplating my navel than meeting the so-named halfwit. Similarly, I'm grateful that Africans have such a distinctive appearance because it enhances my safety. If a population group had the same criminal proclivities as Africans but looked exactly like Jews, life would be much riskier wouldn't it? "Oh no! I see a group of Jewish looking guys coming - should I start college complaining about my sore elbow since one of them is almost assuredly an orthopedic surgeon? Or cross the street and walk faster because they're thugs likely to beat, rob, rape, and/or kill me?"

    Nature has given us the means to quickly assess risk whether by providing visual cues directly or by dull witted single moms labeling their sons Ta'Neezy for us. Those of us who Notice are rewarded by living longer and healthier lives.
  56. People are taking the gift of discernment that allowed their species to survive over millions of years and applying it to modern day scenarios. Yes, it’s a gift, not a curse. Profiling is either right in all cases or wrong in all cases. It can’t be morally acceptable in most cases but somehow morally unacceptable only when concerning race. Who does the media profile when black churches are burned?

  57. @Harry Baldwin
    Colin Holbrook is obviously a racist, because otherwise why would it even have occurred to him to have conducted a study like this? What put this noxious idea into his head? It's inherently problematic. UCLA, I demand you expunge this obvious racist from your faculty. He is a disgrace to the study of anthropology.

    Colin Holbrook is obviously a racist, because otherwise why would it even have occurred to him to have conducted a study like this?

    It’s ok if he can show that Republican voters are more likely to believe those scary stereotypes.

    I’m surprised he got the results he reported. 99% of Americans are by now conditioned to banish those stereotypes from their thoughts, and failing that to at least never admit to them. You’re supposed to imagine a Jumaul busy detecting new subatomic particles, while Connor is planning a school massacre.

  58. @Hibernian
    I think in the early days of the NBA some of the players were Jewish.

    I think in the early days of the NBA some of the players were Jewish.

    Yup. Also, we have ask how it happened that Ephraim Goldblatt came to play basketball with Jamal Jones. Goldblatt is no random Jewish kid, he’s likely the most bad-assed Jew in town, maybe half-black and visiting the ghetto to find high-quality competition. Jamal, meanwhile, is the lowest-status black kid around — so low-status the other black kids don’t want to play with him.

    So the answer is, Ephraim 21, Jamal 9.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    That's a good and witty answer, but of course it won't save you from accusations of racism.
  59. Priss Factor [AKA "skiapolemistis"] says:

    A scientist with phobia for facts is like a gardener with phobia for dirt.

    Find another line of work.

  60. Priss Factor [AKA "skiapolemistis"] says:

    These academics live in their own world. They used to changing ‘reality’ with their ‘remote control’. But when reality creeps into their faux-reality based on PC fantasies and when their remote controls don’t do the trick, they get awful frustrated.

    The emotional character of Liberal academics.

  61. @Harry Baldwin
    Colin Holbrook is obviously a racist, because otherwise why would it even have occurred to him to have conducted a study like this? What put this noxious idea into his head? It's inherently problematic. UCLA, I demand you expunge this obvious racist from your faculty. He is a disgrace to the study of anthropology.

    Colin should consider changing his name–it’s too close to Connor, the racist whitey. If only to convince others of the sincerity of his scholarship…

  62. @415 reasons
    This isn't research, this is a self-criticsm session. What possible point could there be of giving the characters names associated with one race but to draw out racial stereotypes. This was an opportunity for people to recognize an obvious situation to self censor with political correctness. But of course unless 100% did then q e d proof of disgusting racism.

    Jamal Jones is playing basketball one on one wih Ephraim Goldblatt. What do you predict the final score will be? Correct answer: tie game. Always and forever.

    Path breaking research: stereotypical name causes stereotypical reaction. Hmm…

  63. @International Jew

    I think in the early days of the NBA some of the players were Jewish.
     
    Yup. Also, we have ask how it happened that Ephraim Goldblatt came to play basketball with Jamal Jones. Goldblatt is no random Jewish kid, he's likely the most bad-assed Jew in town, maybe half-black and visiting the ghetto to find high-quality competition. Jamal, meanwhile, is the lowest-status black kid around -- so low-status the other black kids don't want to play with him.

    So the answer is, Ephraim 21, Jamal 9.

    That’s a good and witty answer, but of course it won’t save you from accusations of racism.

  64. John Lennon cool?

    Are you serious?

    The pussy-whipped author of “Imagine”?

  65. This is just another unoriginal riff on that ancient, tired leftist complaint that job applicants with “white names” get more callbacks than identical [fake] candidates with “black names.”

    First of all, as another commenter here mentioned, it’s entirely rational to expect that someone with an “Afrocentric” name has been raised in an environment where assimilation to mainstream American norms was discouraged. In fact it’s probably irrational to think otherwise. There’s an extremely high chance that “William” will make a better employee than “JaQuon.”

    Plus, these studies seem to conflate “White” with Anglo.

    Put John up against Jean, Juan, Ioannis, Johann or Eoin and I bet you that John will get the most call-backs.

    I mean… imagine that: people prefer people from a similar cultural background. Shocking!

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    AndrewR said:

    This is just another unoriginal riff on that ancient, tired leftist complaint that job applicants with “white names” get more callbacks than identical [fake] candidates with “black names.”

    Somebody actually did a study where they submitted two resumes that were identical except that one had a "normal" name and one had a more, ah, "diverse" name. The normal got more callbacks.

    Speaking of shocked academics, Robert Putnam, who wrote Bowling Alone, found that diversity decreases trust and interaction between people. He was so shocked, shocked I tell you, to find that people like to associate with their own kind that he put off publishing his findings for several years.

    The lack of what my mother would call common sense among these people is astounding.
  66. @Mark Minter
    Nah, I heard this sort of thing before. If there is some data that might be found racially uncomfortable, the researcher likes to preface with something like this guy, " I have never been so disgusted with my data" and then they go ahead publish it to get the buzz it causes. It like using quotes around a thing to "distance the author from it".

    You beat me to it. Of course he had to insert that in his report. In the unipolar paranoid academic environment of today, had anyone objected to his “research” on insensitivity grounds, he would have been defenseless. Only such garlic and mirrors can the racism vampire be kept at bay.

    It’s also probable in my opinion, that he knew what his “Research” would find and felt under pressure to publish something. What could be easier?

    • Agree: Escher
  67. This piece conjures up the following challenge. The next time I get into the usual race discussion with a liberal, I will challenge him/her to legally adopt one of these vibrant black names. Since liberals are certain that stereotypical black names are the problem, why don’t they adopt s
    them in solidarity?

    At least they could name their own children with vibrant names. Chris Mathews next grandchild really should be named Tyrone or Tonoinessia.

    What think? Lets get this ball rolling.

  68. @Harry Baldwin
    Colin Holbrook is obviously a racist, because otherwise why would it even have occurred to him to have conducted a study like this? What put this noxious idea into his head? It's inherently problematic. UCLA, I demand you expunge this obvious racist from your faculty. He is a disgrace to the study of anthropology.

    LOL! That was fucking brilliant.

  69. @Marty
    This might be a good place for me to tell my Jamal story. Jamal organized an over-30 basketball team, and invited me to play on the otherwise all-black squad. He said it was $30 per man for the entrance fee and uniform, and I wrote him a check on the spot. After the "season" was over, he said to me, "You know something? You're the only guy who paid me."

    You’re white, aren’t you?

  70. “I’ve never been so disgusted with my own data.”

    He should have followed up with the Hollywood liberal classic, “When will it stop?”

  71. @Tex
    I suppose if the researcher set his hypothetical situation in Tombstone in the 1880s, one might well have a different basis for judging what's a racist stereotype and what's just a stereotype. I really doubt an 1880s test population would have given the same answers. Things have changed just a smidge in the last 135 years.

    Never mind, I am suffering from an irony deficiency today.

  72. Ya, reality sucks, humans are disgustingly predictable animals, you can accrately predict the IQ, lifespan, diabetes and heart disease risk and aggressiveness by DNA alone.

    Insanity is expecting a different result.

  73. WGG [AKA "World\'s Greatest Grandson"] says:
    @anowow
    Icelandic regulations about names make a lot of sense. There are lists of approved names.

    Many people should not be allowed to name their offspring according to whim/fad or alter the spelling.

    I'd add Dakota and Cheyenne to a list of proscribed names.

    Also what's with all the Russian diminutives like Sasha, Tanya, Tonya or Tasha? These are perfectly fine as nicknames, but there should be at least cultural disapproval of giving a person a nickname as a formal name. Same goes for girl's quasi-male names like Andi.

    Name a girl Tasha or Tanya and you might as well fill out a Walmart application as soon as she is born. Name her Dakota and be prepared to be a grandparent in 15-16 years.

    Yes, agreed. What we were both getting at in our comments is that Jamal and DeAndre are not just black names, they are *ghetto* black names.

    I can think of a few mens’ names which I think are primarily black names (maybe 20:1 black to white ratio/ aggregate mean ) which don’t necessarily connote a ghetto thug. Here is my list of neutral black mens’ names:

    Luther
    Leon
    Curtis
    Darnell
    Daryl
    Darius
    Marcus
    Ronald
    Calvin

    On the fence: Leroy or LeRoy. Kind of sounds like he might be into property crime but not really dangerous or violent.

    Lots of stereotyping, but it’s based on a little bit of truth. I’m sure there are many more.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    I think middle class blacks should take over certain names that will be recognizably black to other middle class blacks but that whites won't particularly notice one way or another: perhaps names that begin with a D (but not with a D') or some other sort of secret handshake like.
    , @Stan D Mute

    Yes, agreed. What we were both getting at in our comments is that Jamal and DeAndre are not just black names, they are *ghetto* black names.
     
    There's a Charles Murray book in there. Africans are "Coming Apart" even faster than whites I think. When any African with an IQ above 85 who puts in any semblance of effort is guaranteed success, they really have to want to fail in order to do so. When the single African female names her spawn Shitavious, she is saying, "I don't want my baby getting no job from which he cannot be fired and where he is guaranteed to be promoted well beyond his ability." So in the span of just a few generations, Africans have become divided into this ultra entitled class with jobs about a full standard deviation more demanding than they can deliver, and this ultra failure underclass where prison terms are more commonplace than high school diplomas.
    , @anowow
    That list reminds me of Tom Wolfe's character Sherman McCoy. Northern [Catholic or Jewish] whites couldn't tell if he was white or black. Leon, Luther and Calvin could belong to a 60-70 year old white guy working at the farm co-op. Curtis is a name one can associate with Gen-X Southerners. Ronnie or Donnie feels more Boomer, although some Gen-Xers have it.

    Marcus and Darius are the only names that are explicitly black. Darnell is more black than white, but a white guy named Darnell wouldn't raise eyebrows like one named Darius.

    Maybe it is stereotyping, but good point. Guys with names with those names seem to be more likely to have a 9-5 and are less surly. Might also be because the parents had less of an 60's angry African hangup than the parents of the quasi-African or Islamic named lads.

    Steve's idea about D-names would definitely work. You could add Darren or Dwayne to the list. Dale is a little too white. Damian and Dante are ok, but getting into non-productive member of society territory- probably infernal connotations leading to negative outcomes.

    What ever happened to Tyrone? Did it become too stereotypical? For example, Cuffee was a perfectly fine name. It was one of the few genuinely West African names to survive the middle passage. But nobody uses it or weekday names, even though their etymologies are well known.
  74. @WGG
    Yes, agreed. What we were both getting at in our comments is that Jamal and DeAndre are not just black names, they are *ghetto* black names.

    I can think of a few mens' names which I think are primarily black names (maybe 20:1 black to white ratio/ aggregate mean ) which don't necessarily connote a ghetto thug. Here is my list of neutral black mens' names:

    Luther
    Leon
    Curtis
    Darnell
    Daryl
    Darius
    Marcus
    Ronald
    Calvin


    On the fence: Leroy or LeRoy. Kind of sounds like he might be into property crime but not really dangerous or violent.

    Lots of stereotyping, but it's based on a little bit of truth. I'm sure there are many more.

    I think middle class blacks should take over certain names that will be recognizably black to other middle class blacks but that whites won’t particularly notice one way or another: perhaps names that begin with a D (but not with a D’) or some other sort of secret handshake like.

  75. @Hibernian
    I think in the early days of the NBA some of the players were Jewish.

    I think in the early days of the NBA some of the players were Jewish.

    Raanan Katz was a Jewish superstar on the Israeli team. He almost made it to the court in America. He then turned his meager semi-pro earnings into a billion dollar real estate empire. http://www.rkcenters.com/rk-centers-raanan-katz-history.php

    There are some things that Jews are particularly good at and some things Africans are particularly good at. Yikes, I sure hope no anthropology professors are reading this .. I’d hate to be responsible for the resulting conniptions.

    • Replies: @Lovernios X
    I've seen numerous buildings in the Boston area with the Logo RK and a basketball going through a hoop. I've always wondered what that was. Must be owned by this guy.
  76. Americans make racist assumptions based on names, study finds

    “American” “researchers” reveal their own racist assumptions based on what they study, common sense finds

    By Svigor October 9, 2015 | 12:27 pm

    “American” “researchers” draw racist conclusions about people they’ve never met just by osmosis, according to common sense; these “researchers” know they’ll get their asses kicked if they release unflattering reports about the bigotry of Jews, blacks, browns, sepias, Muslims, etc. So, they studiously avoid studying the relevant behaviors of these groups. Especially Jews. They know perfectly well how rich, powerful, ethnocentric, and vengeful Jews are – that the odds are pretty good that Jews would take revenge on the researchers if they dared to release anything but a glowing review of the Tribe.

    Basically, these studies all impart the opposite impression of their ostensible findings:

    White Americans: very little racism or ethnocentrism; safe to study without fear of reprisal.

    Jewish, black, brown, sepia, Muslim, etc., Americans (in no particular order): moderate to extreme levels of racism and ethnocentrism; dangerous to study, strong possibility of reprisals.

    This, and leftist (i.e., racist against whites) motivations are why all the studies are about white people.

    I mean, none of this whole class of people has ever tumbled to the idea of studying Jewish bias in Hollywood? The Fed? None of them? C’mon. That’s beyond even credulity.

    They avoid the subject for fear of the Jews and other hostile minorities.

  77. @anowow
    Icelandic regulations about names make a lot of sense. There are lists of approved names.

    Many people should not be allowed to name their offspring according to whim/fad or alter the spelling.

    I'd add Dakota and Cheyenne to a list of proscribed names.

    Also what's with all the Russian diminutives like Sasha, Tanya, Tonya or Tasha? These are perfectly fine as nicknames, but there should be at least cultural disapproval of giving a person a nickname as a formal name. Same goes for girl's quasi-male names like Andi.

    Name a girl Tasha or Tanya and you might as well fill out a Walmart application as soon as she is born. Name her Dakota and be prepared to be a grandparent in 15-16 years.

    Icelandic regulations about names make a lot of sense. There are lists of approved names.

    Many people should not be allowed to name their offspring according to whim/fad or alter the spelling

    .

    I disagree. The stupid names signal to us that the person had a stupid mother. And since apples typically fall directly beneath their tree, the stupid name is highly likely to identify a stupid person. When I see a Shitavious or Ta’Neezy, I know my time will be more productively spent contemplating my navel than meeting the so-named halfwit. Similarly, I’m grateful that Africans have such a distinctive appearance because it enhances my safety. If a population group had the same criminal proclivities as Africans but looked exactly like Jews, life would be much riskier wouldn’t it? “Oh no! I see a group of Jewish looking guys coming – should I start college complaining about my sore elbow since one of them is almost assuredly an orthopedic surgeon? Or cross the street and walk faster because they’re thugs likely to beat, rob, rape, and/or kill me?”

    Nature has given us the means to quickly assess risk whether by providing visual cues directly or by dull witted single moms labeling their sons Ta’Neezy for us. Those of us who Notice are rewarded by living longer and healthier lives.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  78. @WGG
    Yes, agreed. What we were both getting at in our comments is that Jamal and DeAndre are not just black names, they are *ghetto* black names.

    I can think of a few mens' names which I think are primarily black names (maybe 20:1 black to white ratio/ aggregate mean ) which don't necessarily connote a ghetto thug. Here is my list of neutral black mens' names:

    Luther
    Leon
    Curtis
    Darnell
    Daryl
    Darius
    Marcus
    Ronald
    Calvin


    On the fence: Leroy or LeRoy. Kind of sounds like he might be into property crime but not really dangerous or violent.

    Lots of stereotyping, but it's based on a little bit of truth. I'm sure there are many more.

    Yes, agreed. What we were both getting at in our comments is that Jamal and DeAndre are not just black names, they are *ghetto* black names.

    There’s a Charles Murray book in there. Africans are “Coming Apart” even faster than whites I think. When any African with an IQ above 85 who puts in any semblance of effort is guaranteed success, they really have to want to fail in order to do so. When the single African female names her spawn Shitavious, she is saying, “I don’t want my baby getting no job from which he cannot be fired and where he is guaranteed to be promoted well beyond his ability.” So in the span of just a few generations, Africans have become divided into this ultra entitled class with jobs about a full standard deviation more demanding than they can deliver, and this ultra failure underclass where prison terms are more commonplace than high school diplomas.

  79. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “I’ve never been so disgusted with my own data,” said lead author Colin Holbrook, an anthropologist at UCLA.

    Would love to see Holbrook’s own answers to such questions. Maybe they’d be comically anodyne, but why would he be interested in conducting the study if the wrongthink responses hadn’t at least crossed his mind beforehand.

  80. @Anonymous
    “These are the girls’ names that made the teachers blanch – some with comments attached: Adrienne (kiss of death – spiteful, sneaky or both),
    Alanna,
    Ashleigh,
    Britney,
    Candice,
    Chantelle (spawn of the devil),
    Chelsie,
    Chelseigh,
    Chloe (nasty, spiteful).
    Cindy (always a pain in the a**e)
    Courtney,
    Cortnee,
    Cortnie (trouble),
    Danielle (a nightmare),
    Jade,
    Jodie,
    Jordan (pretty bad for a girl),
    Kayleigh (a pain),
    Keeley
    ,
    Keira (live in fear),
    Kimberley,
    Kylie,
    Leanne,
    Leigh,
    Lou-Lou,
    Mia,
    Paige,
    Poppy (hyperactive and not very bright),
    Stacey
    ,
    Tyler (lesson disrupter).”


    So that is the real reason The Guardian campaigned to ban Page 3 girls.

    John Lennon cool?

    Are you serious?

    The pussy-whipped author of “Imagine”?

    1974 wasn’t 1964.

  81. @Priss Factor
    “I’ve never been so disgusted with my own data,”

    If 'Jamal Jackson' said it, I'd assume he is an angry black guy.

    If 'Colin Holbrooke' said it, I'd assume he is a white cuckeral.

    I'm the only true race-ist.

    If ‘Colin Holbrooke’ said it, I’d assume he is a white cuckeral.

    “I’ve never been tho dithguthted at my own data pointh!”

    With crackling sibilance.

  82. @S
    Is "disgusted" now a euphemism for "had an orgasm"?

    Yes, I believe the lady-boy doth recoil too much.

  83. @WGG
    Yes, agreed. What we were both getting at in our comments is that Jamal and DeAndre are not just black names, they are *ghetto* black names.

    I can think of a few mens' names which I think are primarily black names (maybe 20:1 black to white ratio/ aggregate mean ) which don't necessarily connote a ghetto thug. Here is my list of neutral black mens' names:

    Luther
    Leon
    Curtis
    Darnell
    Daryl
    Darius
    Marcus
    Ronald
    Calvin


    On the fence: Leroy or LeRoy. Kind of sounds like he might be into property crime but not really dangerous or violent.

    Lots of stereotyping, but it's based on a little bit of truth. I'm sure there are many more.

    That list reminds me of Tom Wolfe’s character Sherman McCoy. Northern [Catholic or Jewish] whites couldn’t tell if he was white or black. Leon, Luther and Calvin could belong to a 60-70 year old white guy working at the farm co-op. Curtis is a name one can associate with Gen-X Southerners. Ronnie or Donnie feels more Boomer, although some Gen-Xers have it.

    Marcus and Darius are the only names that are explicitly black. Darnell is more black than white, but a white guy named Darnell wouldn’t raise eyebrows like one named Darius.

    Maybe it is stereotyping, but good point. Guys with names with those names seem to be more likely to have a 9-5 and are less surly. Might also be because the parents had less of an 60’s angry African hangup than the parents of the quasi-African or Islamic named lads.

    Steve’s idea about D-names would definitely work. You could add Darren or Dwayne to the list. Dale is a little too white. Damian and Dante are ok, but getting into non-productive member of society territory- probably infernal connotations leading to negative outcomes.

    What ever happened to Tyrone? Did it become too stereotypical? For example, Cuffee was a perfectly fine name. It was one of the few genuinely West African names to survive the middle passage. But nobody uses it or weekday names, even though their etymologies are well known.

  84. @Stan D Mute

    I think in the early days of the NBA some of the players were Jewish.
     
    Raanan Katz was a Jewish superstar on the Israeli team. He almost made it to the court in America. He then turned his meager semi-pro earnings into a billion dollar real estate empire. http://www.rkcenters.com/rk-centers-raanan-katz-history.php

    There are some things that Jews are particularly good at and some things Africans are particularly good at. Yikes, I sure hope no anthropology professors are reading this .. I'd hate to be responsible for the resulting conniptions.

    I’ve seen numerous buildings in the Boston area with the Logo RK and a basketball going through a hoop. I’ve always wondered what that was. Must be owned by this guy.

  85. @AndrewR
    This is just another unoriginal riff on that ancient, tired leftist complaint that job applicants with "white names" get more callbacks than identical [fake] candidates with "black names."

    First of all, as another commenter here mentioned, it's entirely rational to expect that someone with an "Afrocentric" name has been raised in an environment where assimilation to mainstream American norms was discouraged. In fact it's probably irrational to think otherwise. There's an extremely high chance that "William" will make a better employee than "JaQuon."

    Plus, these studies seem to conflate "White" with Anglo.

    Put John up against Jean, Juan, Ioannis, Johann or Eoin and I bet you that John will get the most call-backs.

    I mean... imagine that: people prefer people from a similar cultural background. Shocking!

    AndrewR said:

    This is just another unoriginal riff on that ancient, tired leftist complaint that job applicants with “white names” get more callbacks than identical [fake] candidates with “black names.”

    Somebody actually did a study where they submitted two resumes that were identical except that one had a “normal” name and one had a more, ah, “diverse” name. The normal got more callbacks.

    Speaking of shocked academics, Robert Putnam, who wrote Bowling Alone, found that diversity decreases trust and interaction between people. He was so shocked, shocked I tell you, to find that people like to associate with their own kind that he put off publishing his findings for several years.

    The lack of what my mother would call common sense among these people is astounding.

  86. Trigger warnings on Excel spreadsheets

  87. Lou <<>>

  88. This is from 2007 but comparable to current findings.

    The downside of diversity
    A Harvard political scientist finds that diversity hurts civic life. What happens when a liberal scholar unearths an inconvenient truth?
    By Michael Jonas | August 5, 2007

    http://www.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2007/08/04/the_downside_of_diversity/?page=full

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