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All this sexual harassment stuff was only supposed to apply to black Republicans, like Clarence Thomas. Of course, black male Democratic politicians tend to act like somewhat more restrained versions of Big Men in Africa, so …

From Politico:

House Democrats found themselves plunged into crisis on Tuesday, after reports surfaced that Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.) secretly settled a sexual harassment claim with a staffer in 2015 — an episode that will now be investigated by the House Ethics Committee. …

Known as the “dean of the House,” Conyers was first elected in 1964 and is the longest-serving current House member, as well as one of the most prominent African-American lawmakers in Congress. …

Conyers is 88. He probably figures that since Mugabe made it to 93, he’s got a good half decade left in office. Why should he take one for the team and retire now, while he’s still in his prime, as proven by these recent sex scandals? If he were over the hill, he wouldn’t still be the rooster who leaves no hen unpestered, now would he?

Conyers used funds from his Member Representation Allowance, the funds provided to each House member to hire staff and carry out their official duties, to pay a “severance package” to the female staffer who he allegedly harassed. The House Administration Committee has come under fire recently for approving millions of dollars in payments for secret settlements, including possible sexual harassment cases involving House members, without having to publicly disclose those settlements. …

Conyers reportedly “used congressional resources to fly in women they believed he was having affairs with,” according to documents obtained by BuzzFeed.

Mike Cernovich provided the documents to BuzzFeed.

… The Conyers case is especially sensitive for Democrats given his age — 88 — seniority, and race. Conyers is the ranking member on the Judiciary Committee. He is also one of the co-founders of the CBC, a key bloc of votes within the House Democratic Caucus. Pelosi and other Democrats have been especially cautious in dealing with ethics and legal problems involving CBC members.

“This is a huge, huge problem for us,” said an aide to one longtime Democrat. “I don’t know how Pelosi is going to handle this.” …

In 2009, Conyers’ wife Monica — then president of the Detroit City Council — pleaded guilty to accepting bribes and was sentenced to 37 months in prison.

For the Democrats to make lemonade out of lemons, perhaps they could arrange for a half dozen pretty black female Senate staffers to announce that Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) had, uh, subjected them to his lustful male gaze or something.

Perhaps it’s time for an Agonizing Reappraisal of St. Martin Luther King’s private life?

 
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  1. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    I have a great defense for Conyers.

    He should say, “King done it. In fact, he done worse. But he’s admired, so admire me too.”

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    It is a shame St. Martin didn't live in the era of cell phones and instant messaging. Just think of the treasure trove of messages he would have left behind.
    , @Neoconned
    Make them pick sides: the Femquisition or the CBC....can't be in both beds at the same time.....

    Anyway correct me if I'm wrong..... didn't I read here that Booker "leans lavender" if you know what I mean.....or worse.....he's OJ and partakes of the vanilla instead of chocolate women.....
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  2. Barnard says:

    I have yet to hear an explanation from a member of Congress why tax dollars are used to pay the settlements but the details are hidden from the taxpayers. I’m sure they have a good one though.

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    Congress has a good explanation, but it's a secret.
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  3. Glossy says: • Website

    Was this post’s title meant to be a double entendre?

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    Was this post’s title meant to be a double entendre?
     
    Well, that is the whole problem. They didn't.
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  4. @Barnard
    I have yet to hear an explanation from a member of Congress why tax dollars are used to pay the settlements but the details are hidden from the taxpayers. I'm sure they have a good one though.

    Congress has a good explanation, but it’s a secret.

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    • Replies: @2Mintzin1
    Same reason the New York State Assembly has a slush fund to handle sexual harassment claims..."claims" which, by the way, have not been filed in any court or administrative agency (e.g. EEOC): see Assemblyman Vito Lopez, generally.
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  5. Thomm says:

    President Kamala Harris (2024) will be the end of America.

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    • Replies: @Dr. X

    President Kamala Harris (2024) will be the end of America.
     
    Ummm, I think "America" already ended... quite a long time ago.
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  6. You put an extra n in Agonizing. Or maybe you missed the l Anglonizing, which feels like a Sailer neologism.

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  7. Mr. Blank says:

    Any bets on how much longer it will take for the “ACKSHUALLY, sexual harassment isn’t all that bad” articles to start appearing?

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    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Any bets on how much longer it will take for the “ACKSHUALLY, sexual harassment isn’t all that bad” articles to start appearing?
     
    They already have:

    http://time.com/5033580/arianna-huffington-defends-al-franken-after-inappropriate-photos-with-her-emerge/?xid=homepage

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/female-snl-staff-support-al-franken_us_5a1423b9e4b0c335e9973fa4
    , @whorefinder

    Any bets on how much longer it will take for the “ACKSHUALLY, sexual harassment isn’t all that bad” articles to start appearing?
     
    I remember during the Bill Clinton years that there was a group of lefty women who were interviewed in a written article about the Monica thing, and several of them cooed about how sexy "Presidential cum" would be (no, really). How quickly they changed their tune on harassment and assault when Bubba the Rapist's tenure was threatened, the lying hypocrites.

    Right about now, I think this rash of sex scandals is I think we're witnessing an intra-Democrat guerilla war between the Clinton/Old Guard and the hard-left-identity-politics Hate Whitey wing. The Bernie Bros, bitter at the Clinton, are helping the latter out.

    When Tom Perez beat Hate Whitey-guy Keith Ellison for the DNC chair, the Hate Whitey wing was angry, and the Bernie Bros weren't too happy with another Clinton buddy in there. So now the goal of the Hate Whitey wing is to expunge the Clinton backers via this method. They're also taking out the moneyed folks who support them and the people in Congress who defend them. This sex harassment scandal campaign is the method they are using.

    Note that the majority of people being taken down in this wave were all Clinton supporters : Weinstein, Spacey, Franken, and Conyers (who just recently claimed that ‘Virtually Every Clinton-Related Matter’ Has Been Carefully Examined and ‘Completely Debunked’). That Judge Roy Moore got caught in the whirlwind is a clue that this is a Democrat-spearheaded thing and not a Republican/Trump one.

    The goal is to get Franken and Conyers to resign and be replaced by Hate Whitey folks. Keith Ellison, the spurned also-ran in the DNC chair race, is already getting his supporters to clamor that Keith should be appointed to replace Franken.

    If I'm right, expect a few more Clinton-supporting Dems to have a sex scandal wrapped around their necks and intra-party calls for them to resign.

    Hate Whitey wants the Democrat Party all to themselves, and this Stalin-esque purge is their doing.

    , @Intelligent Dasein

    Any bets on how much longer it will take for the “ACKSHUALLY, sexual harassment isn’t all that bad” articles to start appearing?
     
    Unfortunately, just such essays, articles, and comments have been regularly appearing on the Alt-Right since its inception and they continue unabated to the present day. The whole PUA/Manosphere is basically one long commentary on the theme that sexual harassment isn't all that bad. This attitude, for whatever reason, has significant traction with Alt-Right types who now, if they were to be consistent, find themselves in the uncomfortable position of having to play down actions such as those by Al Franken and the demonic Harvey Weinstein.

    But anybody who defends the idea of an unchecked animal sexuality as natural, wholesome, "chthonic," or as a defining feature of good men, is quite far from the spirit of truth. There is no sense in striking the last restraints off an already unruly libido; you're playing with fire if you do. The entire emphasis of any movement that wants to call itself "Right" needs to be not on the merely natural, but on the struggle to perfect the natural so that it becomes the human and the divine.

    It should never be considered okay for any sort of overtly sexual behavior to be displayed in public. It should never be considered okay to grope the female staff, and that goes for Don Draper as well as for Harvey Weinstein, John Conyers, and the mook from Joysey. I don't care how "alpha" the guy is. I don't care if the groping was consensual or not; in fact, if it was consensual that is only adding sin to sin. The bottom line is that it shouldn't be happening.

    At the bare minimum, there needs to be sense of manners and restraint. The workplace is there to do work in, not to function as an ersatz brothel. If you fancy one of your coworkers and would consider her as a partner, you should ask her to go out with you after work, not turn the office into a place of innuendo and sleaze. Chaos will ensue if men and women have no place to go to be free of sexual tension and competition.

    Most people don't mind the game as long as they think they are winning it or have a chance to win it, but if these recent revelations have taught us anything it is that nobody really wins in the end.
    , @biz
    That won't happen in earnest until a powerful / famous woman gets accused of sexually harassing male underlings. But once the first of that sort of story comes out, look out...
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  8. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Glossy
    Was this post's title meant to be a double entendre?

    Was this post’s title meant to be a double entendre?

    Well, that is the whole problem. They didn’t.

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  9. It’s kind of sad that the listicle and quiz clickbait site “Buzzfeed” is a Legitimate Source Of News ™ and Cernovich is not, when he’s the one who actually did the work here. What if Cernovich had just released these documents on his own? Probably nothing would happen and it would be a non story.

    Now that having been said, I don’t like Cernovich at all. So, meh.

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    I read the Buzzfeed article first, and the move by Cernovich struck me as ingenious. I can envision many different reasons to like and dislike the guy, but in this case it seems he pretty much just handed a story to his enemies, and they chose to run it, and had to credit him even as they aimed to discredit him more generally. I suspect a reader who has no awareness of Cernovich, or at least no fixed opinion against him, is liable to find this very odd, and will likely end up thinking that Cernovich is at least not as bad as whatever Buzzfeed is saying about him. And that suggests that Buzzfeed is somewhat untrustworthy in general.
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  10. All kidding aside, if the Pokemon calculus has changed to the point that senior Black Democratic politicos are no longer protected, then something major is afoot.

    Whatever it is, I think it’s a good thing. These tiresome scandals have to stop happening. I’m so exhausted and disgusted with the whole world just swimming in sex all the time. No workplace or school or organization should become a meat-market or a place of sexual tension, for this is not its purpose. Furthermore, it is wrong to treat people as sexual objects and to disregard the rules concerning marriage, fidelity, and chastity. This will surely destroy our culture and plunge souls into hell if it is not stopped.

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    Put men and women together and you get sexual tension.
    , @Chrisnonymous

    I’m so exhausted and disgusted with the whole world just swimming in sex all the time.
     
    You just haven't figured out how to be on the winning side of the free rider problem.
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  11. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    For the Democrats to make lemonade out of lemons, perhaps they could arrange for a half dozen pretty black female Senate staffers to announce that Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) had, uh, subjected them to his lustful male gaze or something.

    Too bad there’s no LOL button on posts. That was hilarious. This is the sort of next-level thinking Dems won’t get elsewhere.

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    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    I disagree. When the Republicans finally tried the Sailer Strategy, it worked pretty well. We don't need Steve giving advice to the Democrats too.
    , @william munny
    Roseanne Barr just circulated something about rumors of Booker with strippers and hookers.
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  12. Can’t wait to see Eugene Robinson’s take on this. This morning, his column — https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2017/11/21/in_alabama_is_morality_more_important_than_tribe_135583.html — characterized Roy Moore as “really a tribal leader, claiming that his followers are the only true Americans — while disqualifying his opponents as illegitimate.”

    Now that one of the preeminent black politicians is under the unwelcome glare of klieg lights, will Robinson excuse Conyers by saying, “well, he was over 80 at the time, so he didn’t know what he was doing, no harm, no foul, nothing to see here..unless you’re some kind of racist or something”? Or will he apply the same standard to Conyers’s behavior that he applies to Moore’s? If Conyers believes the best defense is a good offense, and comes out swinging — “why is it that only members of the CBC come in for such scrutiny?” — will Robinson back him up in what is essentially a tribal argument?

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  13. Ivy says:

    Conyers is 88, so there must some Nazi cabal that conspired to do him wrong. Honestly, what was that old guy doing between naps? Did he pat the butt of an aide bringing his pudding or jello?

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  14. bgates says:

    I don’t think the Dems want to use the words “Senator Cory Booker” and “lustful male gaze” together, on account of the number of Dem voters who hear rather than read the news.

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  15. Wow…seems like this is developing into a full blown schism between nice white ladies and everyone else.

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  16. “Why should he take one for the team and retire now…” teams like this can be ended by imposing term limits.

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    “Why should he take one for the team and retire now…” teams like this can be ended by imposing term limits.
     
    Well, that's true enough, but if the Queen had balls she'd be the King.

    In a democracy with a rotten and corrupt, stupid, and demoralized electorate, term limit churn is just pouring kerosene on the fire.
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  17. Dr. X says:
    @Thomm
    President Kamala Harris (2024) will be the end of America.

    President Kamala Harris (2024) will be the end of America.

    Ummm, I think “America” already ended… quite a long time ago.

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  18. Zach says:

    Cosby, Charlie Rose, O’Reilly, now Conyers—we’re seeing the old guys being thrown to the dogs. For the first three, could there be some financial incentive for their employers cutting them loose? Some morals clause violated? Some pension now withheld? I do realize the employers probably got tired of dealing with complaints against them, but maybe sexual harassment claims allow a company to get out of bad contracts.

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  19. nigel says:

    I suspect that we may be seeing some house cleaning from both parties. With all the scandals going on right now, this is the safest time to get rid of liabilities. It’s just going to be lost in the mix without doing any real damage to the party brand.

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    Any reason to think this could be his own party jettisoning him to make room for the next in line - someone who could hold the seat for more than a few more years?
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  20. nigel says:
    @nigel
    I suspect that we may be seeing some house cleaning from both parties. With all the scandals going on right now, this is the safest time to get rid of liabilities. It's just going to be lost in the mix without doing any real damage to the party brand.

    Any reason to think this could be his own party jettisoning him to make room for the next in line – someone who could hold the seat for more than a few more years?

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  21. Rod1963 says:

    The magic black man has to take one for the team but he won’t. Neither will Franken.

    The Democratic leadership is stuck with both. Politically it won’t hurt them. They know the feminist vote isn’t going anywhere.

    Hell Biden makes both of them look normal and is preparing to run in 2020 and is now going to help abused women with Lady Gaga. Mr. Buttbuddy is in a league of his own in terms of sheer perversity. Yet he’s good to go.

    The point people are missing in all of this. Is that many voters do not care if the candidate is a sexual monster. This was proven with Teddy and others. IOW it changes nothing

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  22. @Mr. Blank
    Any bets on how much longer it will take for the "ACKSHUALLY, sexual harassment isn't all that bad" articles to start appearing?

    Any bets on how much longer it will take for the “ACKSHUALLY, sexual harassment isn’t all that bad” articles to start appearing?

    They already have:

    http://time.com/5033580/arianna-huffington-defends-al-franken-after-inappropriate-photos-with-her-emerge/?xid=homepage

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/female-snl-staff-support-al-franken_us_5a1423b9e4b0c335e9973fa4

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    Reg, I too saw that “women of SNL” letter today. It’s not persuasive enough to rescue Franken from his situation, of course. But I did notice that the name of Nora Dunn was missing from the signatories.

    Dunn was an extremely tiresome regular on the show, who made headlines in the late 1980s for refusing to work with scheduled host Andrew Dice Clay, whose (honestly funny) act was filled with boorish put-downs of women. IIRC Clay’s offer to host was rescinded—even though he was the leading comic of the moment—at some cost to his subsequent career. (Don’t worry, he’s got his own show now.) It was all touted as a “victory for feminism” at the time.

    You’d think an enterprising reporter, faced with today’s letter from the SNL sorority, would track down Dunn to see how she views Franken’s antics. Or perhaps Dice Clay could weigh in on the matter?
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  23. Nothing to do with the topic at hand, but I lost your email address. You flagged this years ago; Ruslan Tsarnaev as deep state apparatchic. Mark Ames mentioned a connection with Graham Fuller recently:

    Also connected to Gulen (of course!)

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  24. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    The swamp is being drained one rotting, miasmic clump at a time.

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  25. whorefinder says: • Website

    Why is Birth of A Nation proving more prescient year after year?

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  26. whorefinder says: • Website
    @Mr. Blank
    Any bets on how much longer it will take for the "ACKSHUALLY, sexual harassment isn't all that bad" articles to start appearing?

    Any bets on how much longer it will take for the “ACKSHUALLY, sexual harassment isn’t all that bad” articles to start appearing?

    I remember during the Bill Clinton years that there was a group of lefty women who were interviewed in a written article about the Monica thing, and several of them cooed about how sexy “Presidential cum” would be (no, really). How quickly they changed their tune on harassment and assault when Bubba the Rapist’s tenure was threatened, the lying hypocrites.

    Right about now, I think this rash of sex scandals is I think we’re witnessing an intra-Democrat guerilla war between the Clinton/Old Guard and the hard-left-identity-politics Hate Whitey wing. The Bernie Bros, bitter at the Clinton, are helping the latter out.

    When Tom Perez beat Hate Whitey-guy Keith Ellison for the DNC chair, the Hate Whitey wing was angry, and the Bernie Bros weren’t too happy with another Clinton buddy in there. So now the goal of the Hate Whitey wing is to expunge the Clinton backers via this method. They’re also taking out the moneyed folks who support them and the people in Congress who defend them. This sex harassment scandal campaign is the method they are using.

    Note that the majority of people being taken down in this wave were all Clinton supporters : Weinstein, Spacey, Franken, and Conyers (who just recently claimed that ‘Virtually Every Clinton-Related Matter’ Has Been Carefully Examined and ‘Completely Debunked’). That Judge Roy Moore got caught in the whirlwind is a clue that this is a Democrat-spearheaded thing and not a Republican/Trump one.

    The goal is to get Franken and Conyers to resign and be replaced by Hate Whitey folks. Keith Ellison, the spurned also-ran in the DNC chair race, is already getting his supporters to clamor that Keith should be appointed to replace Franken.

    If I’m right, expect a few more Clinton-supporting Dems to have a sex scandal wrapped around their necks and intra-party calls for them to resign.

    Hate Whitey wants the Democrat Party all to themselves, and this Stalin-esque purge is their doing.

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  27. ChrisZ says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Any bets on how much longer it will take for the “ACKSHUALLY, sexual harassment isn’t all that bad” articles to start appearing?
     
    They already have:

    http://time.com/5033580/arianna-huffington-defends-al-franken-after-inappropriate-photos-with-her-emerge/?xid=homepage

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/female-snl-staff-support-al-franken_us_5a1423b9e4b0c335e9973fa4

    Reg, I too saw that “women of SNL” letter today. It’s not persuasive enough to rescue Franken from his situation, of course. But I did notice that the name of Nora Dunn was missing from the signatories.

    Dunn was an extremely tiresome regular on the show, who made headlines in the late 1980s for refusing to work with scheduled host Andrew Dice Clay, whose (honestly funny) act was filled with boorish put-downs of women. IIRC Clay’s offer to host was rescinded—even though he was the leading comic of the moment—at some cost to his subsequent career. (Don’t worry, he’s got his own show now.) It was all touted as a “victory for feminism” at the time.

    You’d think an enterprising reporter, faced with today’s letter from the SNL sorority, would track down Dunn to see how she views Franken’s antics. Or perhaps Dice Clay could weigh in on the matter?

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    IIRC he actually did do the show and Norah pulled out that week.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    host Andrew Dice Clay
     
    Andrew Clay Silverstein. Where have I seen that surname before...?

    Oh, yeah, when you cross Silverman with Weinstein.

    Andrew was Muhammed Ali in reverse.
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  28. Perhaps it’s time for an Angonizing Reappraisal of St. Martin Luther King’s private life?

    Yes! Now is the time.

    Shall we start taking down statues, and maybe please get rid of one holiday?

    Change the name back to the original of every main drag in every black part of every city in America too.

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    Change the name back to the original of every main drag in every black part of every city in America too.
     
    Obligatory reference to this hilarious bit from Chris Rock on what MLK Boulevard in every city in America is like:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hJxWr1TKK8
    , @EdwardM
    The nice white ladies and leftist city councils might be happy to change some of 'em to Caesar Chavez Blvd. (as San Francisco did to the horribly triggering Army Street some years ago). It would be fun to see the black activists' response.
    , @Marty
    Berkeley was an exception to Rock's observation. Grove St. was never particularly dangerous or run down, passing as it did right in front of the police station.
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    @Buzz Mohawk

    Perhaps it’s time for an Angonizing Reappraisal of St. Martin Luther King’s private life?
     
    Yes! Now is the time.

    Shall we start taking down statues, and maybe please get rid of one holiday?

    Change the name back to the original of every main drag in every black part of every city in America too.

    Change the name back to the original of every main drag in every black part of every city in America too.

    Obligatory reference to this hilarious bit from Chris Rock on what MLK Boulevard in every city in America is like:

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    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    Isn't it funny how Chris Rock seems so politically incorrect here, in the Current Year? He's noticing things without blaming Whitey, and that's not allowed anymore.
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  30. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @attilathehen
    "Why should he take one for the team and retire now..." teams like this can be ended by imposing term limits.

    “Why should he take one for the team and retire now…” teams like this can be ended by imposing term limits.

    Well, that’s true enough, but if the Queen had balls she’d be the King.

    In a democracy with a rotten and corrupt, stupid, and demoralized electorate, term limit churn is just pouring kerosene on the fire.

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    • Replies: @attilathehen
    Term limits work. Giuliani and Bloomberg were out after two terms. Giuliani was America's mayor, Bloomberg a billionaire. Even they couldn't overturn the law.

    As for the queen transgendering into a king, the only couple that could have done that were the Clintons. A commentator a while back said something about Slick Willy cutting off his goolies and running as Wilma Clinton. The Clintons are running as fast as they can to stay ahead of the law. Term limits work.
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  31. Barnard says:
    @Anon
    I have a great defense for Conyers.

    He should say, "King done it. In fact, he done worse. But he's admired, so admire me too."

    It is a shame St. Martin didn’t live in the era of cell phones and instant messaging. Just think of the treasure trove of messages he would have left behind.

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  32. @whorefinder

    Change the name back to the original of every main drag in every black part of every city in America too.
     
    Obligatory reference to this hilarious bit from Chris Rock on what MLK Boulevard in every city in America is like:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hJxWr1TKK8

    Isn’t it funny how Chris Rock seems so politically incorrect here, in the Current Year? He’s noticing things without blaming Whitey, and that’s not allowed anymore.

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  33. anon says: • Disclaimer

    I’m just amazed that Mike Cernovich had a scoop that didn’t turn out to be bullshit for once.

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    Yeah....nice concern trolling.

    Cernovich gets more right than all your corporate media, little plant.
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  34. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @ChrisZ
    Reg, I too saw that “women of SNL” letter today. It’s not persuasive enough to rescue Franken from his situation, of course. But I did notice that the name of Nora Dunn was missing from the signatories.

    Dunn was an extremely tiresome regular on the show, who made headlines in the late 1980s for refusing to work with scheduled host Andrew Dice Clay, whose (honestly funny) act was filled with boorish put-downs of women. IIRC Clay’s offer to host was rescinded—even though he was the leading comic of the moment—at some cost to his subsequent career. (Don’t worry, he’s got his own show now.) It was all touted as a “victory for feminism” at the time.

    You’d think an enterprising reporter, faced with today’s letter from the SNL sorority, would track down Dunn to see how she views Franken’s antics. Or perhaps Dice Clay could weigh in on the matter?

    IIRC he actually did do the show and Norah pulled out that week.

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    Anon, there’s a Dice joke lurking in that comment. :)

    Thanks for that info. All the more reason, though, to be curious about how Dunn’s opinion of Franken may differ from that of the SNL sisterhood.
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  35. @Mr. Blank
    Any bets on how much longer it will take for the "ACKSHUALLY, sexual harassment isn't all that bad" articles to start appearing?

    Any bets on how much longer it will take for the “ACKSHUALLY, sexual harassment isn’t all that bad” articles to start appearing?

    Unfortunately, just such essays, articles, and comments have been regularly appearing on the Alt-Right since its inception and they continue unabated to the present day. The whole PUA/Manosphere is basically one long commentary on the theme that sexual harassment isn’t all that bad. This attitude, for whatever reason, has significant traction with Alt-Right types who now, if they were to be consistent, find themselves in the uncomfortable position of having to play down actions such as those by Al Franken and the demonic Harvey Weinstein.

    But anybody who defends the idea of an unchecked animal sexuality as natural, wholesome, “chthonic,” or as a defining feature of good men, is quite far from the spirit of truth. There is no sense in striking the last restraints off an already unruly libido; you’re playing with fire if you do. The entire emphasis of any movement that wants to call itself “Right” needs to be not on the merely natural, but on the struggle to perfect the natural so that it becomes the human and the divine.

    It should never be considered okay for any sort of overtly sexual behavior to be displayed in public. It should never be considered okay to grope the female staff, and that goes for Don Draper as well as for Harvey Weinstein, John Conyers, and the mook from Joysey. I don’t care how “alpha” the guy is. I don’t care if the groping was consensual or not; in fact, if it was consensual that is only adding sin to sin. The bottom line is that it shouldn’t be happening.

    At the bare minimum, there needs to be sense of manners and restraint. The workplace is there to do work in, not to function as an ersatz brothel. If you fancy one of your coworkers and would consider her as a partner, you should ask her to go out with you after work, not turn the office into a place of innuendo and sleaze. Chaos will ensue if men and women have no place to go to be free of sexual tension and competition.

    Most people don’t mind the game as long as they think they are winning it or have a chance to win it, but if these recent revelations have taught us anything it is that nobody really wins in the end.

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    I don't think you fully grasp how the Alt Right differs from other right wing movements of the past and present - the "Alt" stands for throwing off restraints and taboos, and decent moral behavior is considered being a "cuck".
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  36. Booker will go all the way in 2020! Three cheers for our first drag queen president!

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  37. eah says:

    OT

    Rashida Jones Denies That She Left ‘Toy Story 4’ Over Unwanted Advance From John Lasseter

    Jones instead said they left over “philosophical differences,” and asserted that their exit was over the fact that they believed women and people of color did not have “an equal creative voice” at Pixar.

    Yes, I see — so I guess she won’t be working in the ‘entertainment’ (matter of taste I guess) industry ever again — being so principled after all — “LOL”

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    Yes, I see — so I guess she won’t be working in the ‘entertainment’ (matter of taste I guess) industry ever again — being so principled after all — “LOL”
     
    Yeah, she'll just have to crawl to her TBS sitcom, the one created for her by Mr. and Mrs. Steve Carell.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angie_Tribeca

    And the TNT show she's executive producing:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claws_(TV_series)
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  38. whorefinder says: • Website
    @anon
    I'm just amazed that Mike Cernovich had a scoop that didn't turn out to be bullshit for once.

    Yeah….nice concern trolling.

    Cernovich gets more right than all your corporate media, little plant.

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  39. 2Mintzin1 says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Congress has a good explanation, but it's a secret.

    Same reason the New York State Assembly has a slush fund to handle sexual harassment claims…”claims” which, by the way, have not been filed in any court or administrative agency (e.g. EEOC): see Assemblyman Vito Lopez, generally.

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    You seem to be suggesting that unscrupulous women might abuse the system. Please turn yourself in for re-education.
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  40. biz says:
    @Mr. Blank
    Any bets on how much longer it will take for the "ACKSHUALLY, sexual harassment isn't all that bad" articles to start appearing?

    That won’t happen in earnest until a powerful / famous woman gets accused of sexually harassing male underlings. But once the first of that sort of story comes out, look out…

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  41. MBlanc46 says:
    @Intelligent Dasein
    All kidding aside, if the Pokemon calculus has changed to the point that senior Black Democratic politicos are no longer protected, then something major is afoot.

    Whatever it is, I think it's a good thing. These tiresome scandals have to stop happening. I'm so exhausted and disgusted with the whole world just swimming in sex all the time. No workplace or school or organization should become a meat-market or a place of sexual tension, for this is not its purpose. Furthermore, it is wrong to treat people as sexual objects and to disregard the rules concerning marriage, fidelity, and chastity. This will surely destroy our culture and plunge souls into hell if it is not stopped.

    Put men and women together and you get sexual tension.

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    Put men and women together and you get sexual tension.
     
    Put sexually healthy men and desirable women together and you do get sexual tension, until they do something about it.

    That can be a healthy thing in a civilized environment. When civilization breaks down, you are in trouble.

    A lot of the best art, literature and music comes about because of that force.
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  42. njguy73 says:
    @eah
    OT

    Rashida Jones Denies That She Left ‘Toy Story 4’ Over Unwanted Advance From John Lasseter

    Jones instead said they left over “philosophical differences,” and asserted that their exit was over the fact that they believed women and people of color did not have “an equal creative voice” at Pixar.

    Yes, I see -- so I guess she won't be working in the 'entertainment' (matter of taste I guess) industry ever again -- being so principled after all -- "LOL"

    https://www.aceshowbiz.com/images/wennpic/rashida-jones-2012-vanity-fair-oscar-party-03.jpg

    Yes, I see — so I guess she won’t be working in the ‘entertainment’ (matter of taste I guess) industry ever again — being so principled after all — “LOL”

    Yeah, she’ll just have to crawl to her TBS sitcom, the one created for her by Mr. and Mrs. Steve Carell.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angie_Tribeca

    And the TNT show she’s executive producing:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claws_(TV_series)

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    She is quoted on the Wikipedia page about her:

    "I have gone through periods where I only feel black or Jewish. Now I have a good balance."

    Her mother Peggy Lipton is Jewish.
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  43. @Anonymous

    “Why should he take one for the team and retire now…” teams like this can be ended by imposing term limits.
     
    Well, that's true enough, but if the Queen had balls she'd be the King.

    In a democracy with a rotten and corrupt, stupid, and demoralized electorate, term limit churn is just pouring kerosene on the fire.

    Term limits work. Giuliani and Bloomberg were out after two terms. Giuliani was America’s mayor, Bloomberg a billionaire. Even they couldn’t overturn the law.

    As for the queen transgendering into a king, the only couple that could have done that were the Clintons. A commentator a while back said something about Slick Willy cutting off his goolies and running as Wilma Clinton. The Clintons are running as fast as they can to stay ahead of the law. Term limits work.

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    Giuliani and Bloomberg were out after two terms.
     
    Well, you're half right.

    By a hotly contested vote of 29–22 on October 23, 2008, the New York City Council extended the former two-term limit for Mayor, Council and other elected city offices to three terms, allowing Mayor Bloomberg to pursue his announced intention of seeking a third term in 2009. Legal challenges to the extension failed in Federal court, and a proposed law in the New York State Legislature to override the extension was not passed.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_mayoral_election,_2009#Background
    , @ScarletNumber
    Bloomberg did three terms because they made an exception for him because the financial crisis of 2008. Ironically they wouldn't make an exception for Rudy Giuliani, even though the primary to replace him was originally scheduled on 9/11.
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  44. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @27 year old
    It's kind of sad that the listicle and quiz clickbait site "Buzzfeed" is a Legitimate Source Of News (tm) and Cernovich is not, when he's the one who actually did the work here. What if Cernovich had just released these documents on his own? Probably nothing would happen and it would be a non story.

    Now that having been said, I don't like Cernovich at all. So, meh.

    I read the Buzzfeed article first, and the move by Cernovich struck me as ingenious. I can envision many different reasons to like and dislike the guy, but in this case it seems he pretty much just handed a story to his enemies, and they chose to run it, and had to credit him even as they aimed to discredit him more generally. I suspect a reader who has no awareness of Cernovich, or at least no fixed opinion against him, is liable to find this very odd, and will likely end up thinking that Cernovich is at least not as bad as whatever Buzzfeed is saying about him. And that suggests that Buzzfeed is somewhat untrustworthy in general.

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  45. bartok says:

    Harris is a hapa married to an Ashkenazi Jew. “President Harris” is not going to happen, and “President Booker” won’t, either. “President Michelle Obama” could easily happen, though.

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    “President Michelle Obama” could easily happen, though.

     

    I'm afraid this is too true. I think she would be a formidable, and perhaps unbeatable, candidate for the Dems.

    I'm staggered by the worship Michelle gets across the left, from the RINO establishment, and even from many of my soft-right friends. If she were a candidate, the MSM would shelter and pamper her even more than they did her feckless husband. She needs no introduction or name recognition, so she could campaign on a tightly-scripted, Hillary-like limited schedule, and she'd be more likely to get away with it because she's physically, um, robust, and no one would assume she was hiding a chronic disease or a debilitating drinking problem.

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  46. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Mugabe himself seems to have been ultimately brought down by his much younger, more avaricious wife. Has this happened before in modern Africa? The trope of the conniving, self-absorbed wife destroying a ruler or a dynasty has a long heritage, of course. But have we seen it before in modern Africa?

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    Has this happened before in modern Africa?

    It happened in Tunisia in 2011: the old dictator married a young hairdresser, and her family members got a cut of everything.

    , @Charlesz Martel
    We saw it in Haiti. African in all but geography.
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  47. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @MBlanc46
    Put men and women together and you get sexual tension.

    Put men and women together and you get sexual tension.

    Put sexually healthy men and desirable women together and you do get sexual tension, until they do something about it.

    That can be a healthy thing in a civilized environment. When civilization breaks down, you are in trouble.

    A lot of the best art, literature and music comes about because of that force.

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  48. @Anonymous
    Mugabe himself seems to have been ultimately brought down by his much younger, more avaricious wife. Has this happened before in modern Africa? The trope of the conniving, self-absorbed wife destroying a ruler or a dynasty has a long heritage, of course. But have we seen it before in modern Africa?

    Has this happened before in modern Africa?

    It happened in Tunisia in 2011: the old dictator married a young hairdresser, and her family members got a cut of everything.

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    That's interesting, and a good part of what I find interesting is that it is news to me. I followed the Arab Spring fairly closely. For a while I was watching Al Jazeera online almost every day. At the time I thought it was going to bring great things. I don't think I ever heard discussion of this element, but I've just been looking around, and it definitely seems to check out. She seems to have looked younger than she really was, which maybe makes things worse: she seems to have been a sort of somewhat intelligent party girl who figured she had hit the big time and now had to exert her wits to milk it. It wouldn't surprise me if some chunk of the women who have worked for Al Jazeera (or Charlie Rose) haven't yearned for such things...
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  49. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Mike Cernovich is a fake news merchant.

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  50. Neoconned says:
    @Anon
    I have a great defense for Conyers.

    He should say, "King done it. In fact, he done worse. But he's admired, so admire me too."

    Make them pick sides: the Femquisition or the CBC….can’t be in both beds at the same time…..

    Anyway correct me if I’m wrong….. didn’t I read here that Booker “leans lavender” if you know what I mean…..or worse…..he’s OJ and partakes of the vanilla instead of chocolate women…..

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  51. @Intelligent Dasein
    All kidding aside, if the Pokemon calculus has changed to the point that senior Black Democratic politicos are no longer protected, then something major is afoot.

    Whatever it is, I think it's a good thing. These tiresome scandals have to stop happening. I'm so exhausted and disgusted with the whole world just swimming in sex all the time. No workplace or school or organization should become a meat-market or a place of sexual tension, for this is not its purpose. Furthermore, it is wrong to treat people as sexual objects and to disregard the rules concerning marriage, fidelity, and chastity. This will surely destroy our culture and plunge souls into hell if it is not stopped.

    I’m so exhausted and disgusted with the whole world just swimming in sex all the time.

    You just haven’t figured out how to be on the winning side of the free rider problem.

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  52. @Dave Pinsen

    For the Democrats to make lemonade out of lemons, perhaps they could arrange for a half dozen pretty black female Senate staffers to announce that Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) had, uh, subjected them to his lustful male gaze or something.
     
    Too bad there's no LOL button on posts. That was hilarious. This is the sort of next-level thinking Dems won't get elsewhere.

    I disagree. When the Republicans finally tried the Sailer Strategy, it worked pretty well. We don’t need Steve giving advice to the Democrats too.

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  53. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Steve Sailer
    Has this happened before in modern Africa?

    It happened in Tunisia in 2011: the old dictator married a young hairdresser, and her family members got a cut of everything.

    That’s interesting, and a good part of what I find interesting is that it is news to me. I followed the Arab Spring fairly closely. For a while I was watching Al Jazeera online almost every day. At the time I thought it was going to bring great things. I don’t think I ever heard discussion of this element, but I’ve just been looking around, and it definitely seems to check out. She seems to have looked younger than she really was, which maybe makes things worse: she seems to have been a sort of somewhat intelligent party girl who figured she had hit the big time and now had to exert her wits to milk it. It wouldn’t surprise me if some chunk of the women who have worked for Al Jazeera (or Charlie Rose) haven’t yearned for such things…

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  54. @bartok
    Harris is a hapa married to an Ashkenazi Jew. "President Harris" is not going to happen, and "President Booker" won't, either. "President Michelle Obama" could easily happen, though.

    “President Michelle Obama” could easily happen, though.

    I’m afraid this is too true. I think she would be a formidable, and perhaps unbeatable, candidate for the Dems.

    I’m staggered by the worship Michelle gets across the left, from the RINO establishment, and even from many of my soft-right friends. If she were a candidate, the MSM would shelter and pamper her even more than they did her feckless husband. She needs no introduction or name recognition, so she could campaign on a tightly-scripted, Hillary-like limited schedule, and she’d be more likely to get away with it because she’s physically, um, robust, and no one would assume she was hiding a chronic disease or a debilitating drinking problem.

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    This is absolutely insane and yet another reason why 95% of the isteve big brain commentariat has no business commenting on politics.
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  55. @Anonymous
    Mugabe himself seems to have been ultimately brought down by his much younger, more avaricious wife. Has this happened before in modern Africa? The trope of the conniving, self-absorbed wife destroying a ruler or a dynasty has a long heritage, of course. But have we seen it before in modern Africa?

    We saw it in Haiti. African in all but geography.

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    What exactly happened there? No doubt, I could try to figure this out myself, but I am wondering what people think, and am endeavoring to take it seriously. I have personally had mixed experiences with Haitians, both good and bad.
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  56. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Charlesz Martel
    We saw it in Haiti. African in all but geography.

    What exactly happened there? No doubt, I could try to figure this out myself, but I am wondering what people think, and am endeavoring to take it seriously. I have personally had mixed experiences with Haitians, both good and bad.

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  57. @2Mintzin1
    Same reason the New York State Assembly has a slush fund to handle sexual harassment claims..."claims" which, by the way, have not been filed in any court or administrative agency (e.g. EEOC): see Assemblyman Vito Lopez, generally.

    You seem to be suggesting that unscrupulous women might abuse the system. Please turn yourself in for re-education.

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  58. ChrisZ says:
    @Anon
    IIRC he actually did do the show and Norah pulled out that week.

    Anon, there’s a Dice joke lurking in that comment. :)

    Thanks for that info. All the more reason, though, to be curious about how Dunn’s opinion of Franken may differ from that of the SNL sisterhood.

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  59. Arclight says:

    When I was fresh out of college, I worked for a couple of House Democrats. Even with in our caucus the CBC was considered an embarrassment, with a disproportionate share of members who were plainly idiots that had to be treated as important and especially moral by the rest of us to keep party harmony.

    So glad to have left that all behind.

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  60. EdwardM says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Perhaps it’s time for an Angonizing Reappraisal of St. Martin Luther King’s private life?
     
    Yes! Now is the time.

    Shall we start taking down statues, and maybe please get rid of one holiday?

    Change the name back to the original of every main drag in every black part of every city in America too.

    The nice white ladies and leftist city councils might be happy to change some of ‘em to Caesar Chavez Blvd. (as San Francisco did to the horribly triggering Army Street some years ago). It would be fun to see the black activists’ response.

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  61. eah says:
    @njguy73

    Yes, I see — so I guess she won’t be working in the ‘entertainment’ (matter of taste I guess) industry ever again — being so principled after all — “LOL”
     
    Yeah, she'll just have to crawl to her TBS sitcom, the one created for her by Mr. and Mrs. Steve Carell.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angie_Tribeca

    And the TNT show she's executive producing:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claws_(TV_series)

    She is quoted on the Wikipedia page about her:

    “I have gone through periods where I only feel black or Jewish. Now I have a good balance.”

    Her mother Peggy Lipton is Jewish.

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    And her father's just the guy who produced the best-selling album of all time, and who's been nominated for more Grammys than anyone else ever.
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  62. @The Last Real Calvinist

    “President Michelle Obama” could easily happen, though.

     

    I'm afraid this is too true. I think she would be a formidable, and perhaps unbeatable, candidate for the Dems.

    I'm staggered by the worship Michelle gets across the left, from the RINO establishment, and even from many of my soft-right friends. If she were a candidate, the MSM would shelter and pamper her even more than they did her feckless husband. She needs no introduction or name recognition, so she could campaign on a tightly-scripted, Hillary-like limited schedule, and she'd be more likely to get away with it because she's physically, um, robust, and no one would assume she was hiding a chronic disease or a debilitating drinking problem.

    This is absolutely insane and yet another reason why 95% of the isteve big brain commentariat has no business commenting on politics.

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  63. @Dave Pinsen

    For the Democrats to make lemonade out of lemons, perhaps they could arrange for a half dozen pretty black female Senate staffers to announce that Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) had, uh, subjected them to his lustful male gaze or something.
     
    Too bad there's no LOL button on posts. That was hilarious. This is the sort of next-level thinking Dems won't get elsewhere.

    Roseanne Barr just circulated something about rumors of Booker with strippers and hookers.

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    Roseanne Barr just circulated something...
     
    Damn you, I was eating lunch!
    , @Jim Don Bob
    And who is more authoritative than Roseanne Barr when it comes to black politicians, strippers, and hookers?

    It is sad how she has gone off the rails; her show Roseanne was funny, but then it had John Goodman who is good in anything.
    , @njguy73

    Roseanne Barr just circulated something about rumors of Booker with strippers and hookers.
     
    Is that supposed to make me want to vote for Booker less?
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  64. Marty says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Perhaps it’s time for an Angonizing Reappraisal of St. Martin Luther King’s private life?
     
    Yes! Now is the time.

    Shall we start taking down statues, and maybe please get rid of one holiday?

    Change the name back to the original of every main drag in every black part of every city in America too.

    Berkeley was an exception to Rock’s observation. Grove St. was never particularly dangerous or run down, passing as it did right in front of the police station.

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  65. @ChrisZ
    Reg, I too saw that “women of SNL” letter today. It’s not persuasive enough to rescue Franken from his situation, of course. But I did notice that the name of Nora Dunn was missing from the signatories.

    Dunn was an extremely tiresome regular on the show, who made headlines in the late 1980s for refusing to work with scheduled host Andrew Dice Clay, whose (honestly funny) act was filled with boorish put-downs of women. IIRC Clay’s offer to host was rescinded—even though he was the leading comic of the moment—at some cost to his subsequent career. (Don’t worry, he’s got his own show now.) It was all touted as a “victory for feminism” at the time.

    You’d think an enterprising reporter, faced with today’s letter from the SNL sorority, would track down Dunn to see how she views Franken’s antics. Or perhaps Dice Clay could weigh in on the matter?

    host Andrew Dice Clay

    Andrew Clay Silverstein. Where have I seen that surname before…?

    Oh, yeah, when you cross Silverman with Weinstein.

    Andrew was Muhammed Ali in reverse.

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  66. @william munny
    Roseanne Barr just circulated something about rumors of Booker with strippers and hookers.

    Roseanne Barr just circulated something…

    Damn you, I was eating lunch!

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  67. @Intelligent Dasein

    Any bets on how much longer it will take for the “ACKSHUALLY, sexual harassment isn’t all that bad” articles to start appearing?
     
    Unfortunately, just such essays, articles, and comments have been regularly appearing on the Alt-Right since its inception and they continue unabated to the present day. The whole PUA/Manosphere is basically one long commentary on the theme that sexual harassment isn't all that bad. This attitude, for whatever reason, has significant traction with Alt-Right types who now, if they were to be consistent, find themselves in the uncomfortable position of having to play down actions such as those by Al Franken and the demonic Harvey Weinstein.

    But anybody who defends the idea of an unchecked animal sexuality as natural, wholesome, "chthonic," or as a defining feature of good men, is quite far from the spirit of truth. There is no sense in striking the last restraints off an already unruly libido; you're playing with fire if you do. The entire emphasis of any movement that wants to call itself "Right" needs to be not on the merely natural, but on the struggle to perfect the natural so that it becomes the human and the divine.

    It should never be considered okay for any sort of overtly sexual behavior to be displayed in public. It should never be considered okay to grope the female staff, and that goes for Don Draper as well as for Harvey Weinstein, John Conyers, and the mook from Joysey. I don't care how "alpha" the guy is. I don't care if the groping was consensual or not; in fact, if it was consensual that is only adding sin to sin. The bottom line is that it shouldn't be happening.

    At the bare minimum, there needs to be sense of manners and restraint. The workplace is there to do work in, not to function as an ersatz brothel. If you fancy one of your coworkers and would consider her as a partner, you should ask her to go out with you after work, not turn the office into a place of innuendo and sleaze. Chaos will ensue if men and women have no place to go to be free of sexual tension and competition.

    Most people don't mind the game as long as they think they are winning it or have a chance to win it, but if these recent revelations have taught us anything it is that nobody really wins in the end.

    I don’t think you fully grasp how the Alt Right differs from other right wing movements of the past and present – the “Alt” stands for throwing off restraints and taboos, and decent moral behavior is considered being a “cuck”.

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  68. @william munny
    Roseanne Barr just circulated something about rumors of Booker with strippers and hookers.

    And who is more authoritative than Roseanne Barr when it comes to black politicians, strippers, and hookers?

    It is sad how she has gone off the rails; her show Roseanne was funny, but then it had John Goodman who is good in anything.

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  69. njguy73 says:
    @eah
    She is quoted on the Wikipedia page about her:

    "I have gone through periods where I only feel black or Jewish. Now I have a good balance."

    Her mother Peggy Lipton is Jewish.

    And her father’s just the guy who produced the best-selling album of all time, and who’s been nominated for more Grammys than anyone else ever.

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  70. njguy73 says:
    @william munny
    Roseanne Barr just circulated something about rumors of Booker with strippers and hookers.

    Roseanne Barr just circulated something about rumors of Booker with strippers and hookers.

    Is that supposed to make me want to vote for Booker less?

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  71. njguy73 says:
    @attilathehen
    Term limits work. Giuliani and Bloomberg were out after two terms. Giuliani was America's mayor, Bloomberg a billionaire. Even they couldn't overturn the law.

    As for the queen transgendering into a king, the only couple that could have done that were the Clintons. A commentator a while back said something about Slick Willy cutting off his goolies and running as Wilma Clinton. The Clintons are running as fast as they can to stay ahead of the law. Term limits work.

    Giuliani and Bloomberg were out after two terms.

    Well, you’re half right.

    By a hotly contested vote of 29–22 on October 23, 2008, the New York City Council extended the former two-term limit for Mayor, Council and other elected city offices to three terms, allowing Mayor Bloomberg to pursue his announced intention of seeking a third term in 2009. Legal challenges to the extension failed in Federal court, and a proposed law in the New York State Legislature to override the extension was not passed.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_mayoral_election,_2009#Background

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  72. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    I’m all for diversity of opinion. Back when I was a mostly leftist guy with some right wing sympathies, I used to regard her as a gross vulgarian. Now I regard myself as a badthinker who regards some leftist idealism as admirable, and she seems to be someone who is trying, in both the private and public sphere. I think she looks better now, for sure.

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  73. @attilathehen
    Term limits work. Giuliani and Bloomberg were out after two terms. Giuliani was America's mayor, Bloomberg a billionaire. Even they couldn't overturn the law.

    As for the queen transgendering into a king, the only couple that could have done that were the Clintons. A commentator a while back said something about Slick Willy cutting off his goolies and running as Wilma Clinton. The Clintons are running as fast as they can to stay ahead of the law. Term limits work.

    Bloomberg did three terms because they made an exception for him because the financial crisis of 2008. Ironically they wouldn’t make an exception for Rudy Giuliani, even though the primary to replace him was originally scheduled on 9/11.

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