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From The Guardian:

Einstein’s travel diaries reveal ‘shocking’ xenophobia

Private journals kept by the scientist and humanitarian icon show prejudiced attitudes towards the people he met while travelling in Asia

Alison Flood
Tue 12 Jun 2018 12.32 EDT Last modified on Tue 12 Jun 2018 19.25

The publication of Albert Einstein’s private diaries detailing his tour of Asia in the 1920s reveals the theoretical physicist and humanitarian icon’s racist attitudes to the people he met on his travels, particularly the Chinese.

Written between October 1922 and March 1923, the diaries see the scientist musing on his travels, science, philosophy and art. In China, the man who famously once described racism as “a disease of white people” describes the “industrious, filthy, obtuse people” he observes. He notes how the “Chinese don’t sit on benches while eating but squat like Europeans do when they relieve themselves out in the leafy woods. All this occurs quietly and demurely. Even the children are spiritless and look obtuse.” After earlier writing of the “abundance of offspring” and the “fecundity” of the Chinese, he goes on to say: “It would be a pity if these Chinese supplant all other races. For the likes of us the mere thought is unspeakably dreary.” …

Further passages in the diaries, which are thought to have been written for Einstein’s stepdaughters in Berlin while he and his wife were travelling in Asia, Spain and Palestine, and as an aide memoire, see him writing of the Chinese that “even those reduced to working like horses never give the impression of conscious suffering. A peculiar herd-like nation [ … ] often more like automatons than people.” He later adds, in Rosenkranz’s words, “a healthy dose of extreme misogyny” to his xenophobia with the observation: “I noticed how little difference there is between men and women; I don’t understand what kind of fatal attraction Chinese women possess which enthrals the corresponding men to such an extent that they are incapable of defending themselves against the formidable blessing of offspring”.

In Colombo in Ceylon, Einstein writes of how the locals “live in great filth and considerable stench at ground level” adding that they “do little, and need little. The simple economic cycle of life.”

Einstein’s perceptions of the Japanese he meets are, in contrast, more positive: “Japanese unostentatious, decent, altogether very appealing,” he writes. “Pure souls as nowhere else among people. One has to love and admire this country.” But Rosenkranz points out that he also concludes that the “intellectual needs of this nation seem to be weaker than their artistic ones – natural disposition?”

“Einstein’s diary entries on the biological origin of the alleged intellectual inferiority of the Japanese, Chinese, and Indians are definitely not understated and can be viewed as racist – in these instances, other peoples are portrayed as being biologically inferior, a clear hallmark of racism. The disquieting comment that the Chinese may ‘supplant all other races’ is also most revealing in this regard,” writes Rosenkranz.

“Here, Einstein perceives a foreign ‘race’ as a threat, which … is one of the characteristics of a racist ideology. Yet the remark that must strike the modern reader as most offensive is his feigning not to understand how Chinese men can find their women sufficiently attractive to have offspring with them. In light of these instances, we must conclude that Einstein did make quite a few racist and dehumanising comments in the diary, some of which were extremely unpleasant.”

…. In his introduction, Rosenkranz writes how it is important to explore how a humanist icon such as Einstein – whose image was once used for a UNHCR campaign with the slogan “A bundle of belongings isn’t the only thing a refugee brings to his new country. Einstein was a refugee” – could have written xenophobic comments about the peoples he encountered.

 
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  1. fnn says:

    I’m waiting for John Derbyshire’s comment

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    • Agree: fitzGetty
    • Replies: @attilathehen
    LOL!!! However, if Einstein were alive today, he'd be on the Chinese side. Jews marry Asians/blacks now. It's kosher. He would have Marc Zuckerberg as an example.
    , @CE
    The time he visited China was about the nadir of Chinese civilization. Remember if you read Europeans' views of America, many at different times had quite low opinions of the Americans. From about 1840 to 1950, China went through major change from basically a mideval world into a modern world with basically everystep gone wrong. And then, after 1949, another kind of terror went on for a few more decades. A somewhat normal kind of development only started in the 1980s. And still there was 1989.

    I doubt many Chinese would feel angry about Einstein's private diary. Many would only be reminded about their own country's painful experience. "They" came for Einstein, who are they? Your own western liberals.
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  2. trelane says:

    I will never look at Einstein the same way. That dirty rotten no good racist. You know what you can do with your racist E=mc^2?

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    • Replies: @Mr. Anon

    I will never look at Einstein the same way. That dirty rotten no good racist. You know what you can do with your racist E=mc^2?
     
    More like E=K^3!
    , @TelfoedJohn
    Entitlement = Male Cis Squares
    , @dearieme
    I gather that he never did successfully deduce E=mc^2: his attempts all had mathematical flaws, apparently. Happily others were successful.
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  3. Daniel H says:

    >>In his introduction, Rosenkranz writes how it is important to explore how a humanist icon such as Einstein……… could have written xenophobic comments about the peoples he encountered.

    Gee, it’s almost as if Albert Einstein were human.

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    • Replies: @Rod1963
    Indeed he was human and noticed things, particularly differences in people. Their cultures would certainly be alien if not grotesque to a cultured Viennese Jew born in the early 1900's.

    Those differences would have been obvious to anyone, even today they'd notice Chinese behave like ants and most Hindus live squalor and are indifferent to it.

    Still it amazes that those politically correct retards continually apply their ideas of ethics and morality on those from a much earlier era. You can't honestly do that.

    Then again the Left is not intellectually honest at all. They are merely liars and power mad fanatics following a secular religion.
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  4. Einstein – backwards, mouthbreathing redneck.

    Who knew?

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    • Replies: @nebulafox
    More like carrying the typical prejudices that German-speaking Jews had about backwards Ostjuden, prior to 1933, looking at the comments pertaining to Palestine. It is really... quite unremarkable, in the context of the time period.

    For his day and time, Einstein was highly-*highly*-liberal. Always was his whole life, and it just increased over time-especially after the Nazis came to power. That this doesn't automatically translate to being acceptable on 2018 progressive/SJW standards should be obvious to the remotely mentally cognizant, which... oh, yeah.

    , @Mr. Anon

    Einstein – backwards, mouthbreathing redneck.

    Who knew?
     
    He married his cousin too. Hell, he was practically a damned hillbilly.
    , @Towel Ban
    Well Einstein did marry his first cousin. Although that's more of a quality practiced by a certain Levantine desert tribe than it is by white Scots-Irish working class people called "rednecks".
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  5. Rosie says:

    Do people never tire of this crap?

    A man can’t even record opinions about other groups on his diary without being made an example of?

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    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Sorry for the very late reply, Rosie. I did notice your reference to me in the older thread so, I just will respond to your comment here and now.

    I believe you still proved mine and the guy you were responding to's comments indirectly in your discussion on the house remodeling. As I've noted, lots of single guys could live with the house as-is, as long as everything is functional (electrical, plumbing, HVAC, roofing), without the constant keeping up on the new flooring, countertops, appliances, etc. Men would most times rather work on something new, a new business, say, or better yet, new process or product than just keep everything up all the time. I am one.

    The way global finance is these days, inflation continuously eats away savings in most countries' currencies, so the house is pretty much the only safe investment most families have, though one's home didn't used to be thought of as such. I believe that's why lots of home improvement goes on also. It's capital investment ... until it isn't again.

    About your pictures, I have seen one of those "timy houses" near where I live. Really, I'd rather live in a trailer.
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  6. nebulafox says:
    @Alec Leamas
    Einstein - backwards, mouthbreathing redneck.

    Who knew?

    More like carrying the typical prejudices that German-speaking Jews had about backwards Ostjuden, prior to 1933, looking at the comments pertaining to Palestine. It is really… quite unremarkable, in the context of the time period.

    For his day and time, Einstein was highly-*highly*-liberal. Always was his whole life, and it just increased over time-especially after the Nazis came to power. That this doesn’t automatically translate to being acceptable on 2018 progressive/SJW standards should be obvious to the remotely mentally cognizant, which… oh, yeah.

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    • Replies: @Alec Leamas
    Well, I suppose the definition of "liberal" has changed a great deal since Einstein's time, hasn't it?
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  7. Enochian says:

    I’m shocked to find that a theoretical physicist should have the sharp observational skills of an experimental one.

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  8. TheBoom says:

    Subtext is that Einstein is to be called as a humanitarian for staying racism is “a disease of white people” because saying that is good so it is shocking that he criticized other groups too because that is bad

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  9. “Do you feel that you are superior to the Japanese? The truth is that the Japanese consider themselves far superior to you. A conservative Japanese, for example, is infuriated at the sight of a white man dancing with a Japanese lady.
    Do you consider yourself superior to the Hindus of India? That is your privilege; but a million Hindus feel so infinitely superior to you that they wouldn’t befoul themselves by condescending to touch food that your heathen shadow had fallen across and contaminated.
    Do you feel you are superior to the Eskimos? Again, that is your privilege; but would you really like to know what the Eskimo thinks of you? Well, there are a few native hobos among the Eskimos, worthless bums who refuse to work. The Eskimos call them “white men” – that being their utmost term of contempt.
    Each nation feels superior to other nations. That breeds patriotism – and wars.”

    (Dale Carnegie – 1936)

    https://joshinggnome.wordpress.com/2007/08/21/how-to-win-friends-influence-people-condensed/

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    • Replies: @Rosie

    That breeds patriotism – and wars.
     
    Notice the implied White supremacy here. It is the White man's burden to lead humanity into a post-racial utopia. He takes other groups' ethnocentric feelings as normal.
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  10. Herzog says:

    Good lord! The lack of thinking and introspection in this Flood woman truly rivals that of the the standard Muslim.

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  11. NOTA says:

    Goodness, it sure is shocking how sometimes peoples’ private thoughts are impolite. I, for one, would never have imagined such a thing.

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  12. Racial superiority for me but not for thee, chink! On behalf of my Asian wife, I want to knock down his statue personally!

    But, seriously, how are jews going to handle this one? My guess is by largely ignoring it.

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    • Replies: @anon
    Well, they can always pretend he's a southern redneck, like they did with Donald T. Sterling when he became too much of an embarrassment. But Einstein is too valuable as a symbol of Jewish genius, so this will be quickly memory-holed.
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  13. songbird says:

    This case is obviously meant to be more like didactic introspection than an attack: “Even Einstein was guilty of racism, therefore how much more likely are you? Don’t be a racist! You can prove it by supporting endless immigration into white countries.”

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    • Replies: @CCZ
    Whites can never not be racist. The table below "proves" that. The product of a black, decolonisation psychologist.

    https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Covert-and-Overt-White-Supremacy_fig1_324890681?_sg=zGOYooBc9933-wTxbUlijxq1FiG54GO3XQjwKvC_H2OGZkVrZ7-RjodgizlcrNtyw7LbsVsClveJ1Is6mVfpvA

    ‘You Shall Not Replace Us!’ White supremacy, psychotherapy and decolonisation
    Article (PDF Available) in British Journal of Medical Psychology 18(1) · March 2018 with 29 Reads
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  14. New version of the quote uncovered!

    “God doesn’t play dice with the universe. He tried that and got China.”

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  15. Old Left says:

    To my mind, these honest observations help rescue Einstein from the nauseating saintly aura in which his image has been bubble-wrapped by generations of self-conscious “humanist” fans.

    I would add that visceral responses to ugliness are not “feigning.” Feigning is when liberals insist that manifestly misshapen, graceless grotesques are beautiful. It’s the one thing about liberals that I regard as unforgivable.

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    • Replies: @lavoisier

    Feigning is when liberals insist that manifestly misshapen, graceless grotesques are beautiful. It’s the one thing about liberals that I regard as unforgivable.
     
    Liberals commit many unforgiveable sins. It is not limited to one thing unfortunately.
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  16. Rosie says:
    @Joe Stalin
    "Do you feel that you are superior to the Japanese? The truth is that the Japanese consider themselves far superior to you. A conservative Japanese, for example, is infuriated at the sight of a white man dancing with a Japanese lady.
    Do you consider yourself superior to the Hindus of India? That is your privilege; but a million Hindus feel so infinitely superior to you that they wouldn’t befoul themselves by condescending to touch food that your heathen shadow had fallen across and contaminated.
    Do you feel you are superior to the Eskimos? Again, that is your privilege; but would you really like to know what the Eskimo thinks of you? Well, there are a few native hobos among the Eskimos, worthless bums who refuse to work. The Eskimos call them “white men” – that being their utmost term of contempt.
    Each nation feels superior to other nations. That breeds patriotism – and wars."

    (Dale Carnegie - 1936)
    https://joshinggnome.wordpress.com/2007/08/21/how-to-win-friends-influence-people-condensed/

    That breeds patriotism – and wars.

    Notice the implied White supremacy here. It is the White man’s burden to lead humanity into a post-racial utopia. He takes other groups’ ethnocentric feelings as normal.

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    • Replies: @TheJester
    May the "best men" ... be the first to invent industrialization, conquer pandemic diseases, fly like a bird, go to the moon, and create the economic and social conditions in which their women could afford to complain about their abject idleness ... I mean win.
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  17. JackOH says:

    Einstein’s thoughts are those of a human confronting the genuine strangeness and diversity presented by the human species. The criticism of his diaries is a manipulative and unwarranted hit job.

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  18. Russ says:

    Finally: Company for James Watson.

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  19. … describes the “industrious, filthy, obtuse people” he observes.

    Worth a repost…

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gutter_oil

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  20. BB753 says:

    Guildenstern couldn’t be reached for comments, I guess.

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    Guildenstern is dead.
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  21. (((Einstein)))

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  22. Mr. Anon says:
    @Alec Leamas
    Einstein - backwards, mouthbreathing redneck.

    Who knew?

    Einstein – backwards, mouthbreathing redneck.

    Who knew?

    He married his cousin too. Hell, he was practically a damned hillbilly.

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  23. @nebulafox
    More like carrying the typical prejudices that German-speaking Jews had about backwards Ostjuden, prior to 1933, looking at the comments pertaining to Palestine. It is really... quite unremarkable, in the context of the time period.

    For his day and time, Einstein was highly-*highly*-liberal. Always was his whole life, and it just increased over time-especially after the Nazis came to power. That this doesn't automatically translate to being acceptable on 2018 progressive/SJW standards should be obvious to the remotely mentally cognizant, which... oh, yeah.

    Well, I suppose the definition of “liberal” has changed a great deal since Einstein’s time, hasn’t it?

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    Well, I suppose the definition of “liberal” has changed a great deal since Einstein’s time, hasn’t it?
     
    I didn't leave liberalism. Liberalism left me, somewhere back in the '50s.
    , @nebulafox
    Well, I should have clarified myself a little better: he was a committed internationalist, anti-nationalist, pacifist, and socialist who felt an immediate happy rush upon leaving Wilhelminian Germany with its social regimentation and militarism. Which, given his life experiences, was a rather understandable position to take, even if many around these parts wouldn't agree with it. Again: this would not remotely translate into modern day SJWism with its open disdain for empirical scientific reality. Still, to get an idea of how disdainful the young Einstein was for the societal conventions of his day, especially nationalism and related ideas, his first wife was an Orthodox Serb from southern Hungary. That was flat out scandalous in the bourgeois Mitteleuropean Jewish milieu from which he came.

    Now, in the 1920s, when this letter was written, he had settled down somewhat with his radically different second wife into the sort of aforementioned respectable bourgeois Mitteleuropean upper-middle class life (in Berlin working at the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute, of all places) he would have scorned as a younger man-the irony of which was probably not lost on him. ("Fate has cursed my contempt for authority by making me one.") But the 1930s and the rise of Hitler would change that, big time.

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  24. Mr. Anon says:

    Welcome to the party, Al!

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    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    LOL

    I hope I'm not the only one who got this, but just in case:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD94dVu8lqQ
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  25. Mr. Anon says:

    …………., the man who famously once described racism as “a disease of white people” ………..

    A disease of “fellow white people”.

    Here, Einstein perceives a foreign ‘race’ as a threat, which … is one of the characteristics of a racist ideology.

    For most of his adult life, Einstein perceived the german ‘race’ as a threat. Was that deemed characteristic of a racist ideology on his part?

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    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Silly goy, the chosen ones can't be racist.
    , @Anonymous
    Well that's just incorrect. Einstein was ok with Germany until he was run out of German academia for being Jewish.
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  26. Rod1963 says:
    @Daniel H
    >>In his introduction, Rosenkranz writes how it is important to explore how a humanist icon such as Einstein......... could have written xenophobic comments about the peoples he encountered.

    Gee, it's almost as if Albert Einstein were human.

    Indeed he was human and noticed things, particularly differences in people. Their cultures would certainly be alien if not grotesque to a cultured Viennese Jew born in the early 1900′s.

    Those differences would have been obvious to anyone, even today they’d notice Chinese behave like ants and most Hindus live squalor and are indifferent to it.

    Still it amazes that those politically correct retards continually apply their ideas of ethics and morality on those from a much earlier era. You can’t honestly do that.

    Then again the Left is not intellectually honest at all. They are merely liars and power mad fanatics following a secular religion.

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    • Replies: @Realist

    Their cultures would certainly be alien if not grotesque to a cultured Viennese Jew born in the early 1900′s.
     
    If you are referring to Einstein, he was born in Germany in the late 1800's.
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  27. Rosie says:
    @Alec Leamas
    Well, I suppose the definition of "liberal" has changed a great deal since Einstein's time, hasn't it?

    Well, I suppose the definition of “liberal” has changed a great deal since Einstein’s time, hasn’t it?

    I didn’t leave liberalism. Liberalism left me, somewhere back in the ’50s.

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    Good God. What are you, 85 years old?
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  28. istevefan says:

    The disquieting comment that the Chinese may ‘supplant all other races’ is also most revealing in this regard,” writes Rosenkranz.

    I don’t think we have to wonder what Einstein would think today about Sailer’s most important graph.

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    • Replies: @songbird
    Lagos is supposed to have a population of 88 million by 2100. I don't see how that is possible - so I expect things to fall apart before then.
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  29. I wonder what this Flood woman thinks about Married White Christian Fathers that carry guns and voted for Trump.

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  30. In other prog trends, contemporary butt-kicking nativist females like Marine Le Pen are bad, but olden day butt-kicking nativist females are feminist icons:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-44069889

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  31. istevefan says:

    “Einstein did make quite a few racist and dehumanising comments in the diary, some of which were extremely unpleasant.”

    Does this mean racists are to be welcomed into polite society? I mean you can’t get anyone more iconic than Einstein. Throw in James “DNA” Watson and a boatload of others from times past, and one could make the case that racists have always been a part of our civilization, and that racists have contributed mightily to our culture. Is it time for them to be able to come out of the closet?

    Isn’t that how the other side likes to play with facts when it comes to finding a needle in the haystack that pokes a hole in our balloon? If they find evidence that an historical figure was one-part black, then it means blacks are just as responsible for our civilization as whites. If they find evidence that the Romans brought some Africans with them to Britain, then Africans are just as entitled to live in Britain today as are the British who have been there for 1500 years.

    If they find evidence that gays or transgenders served in the military in the past, then they should be allowed to serve openly today.

    If they find evidence that some of the slaves in colonial America were muslims, then islam has always been part and parcel of the USA.

    Well if Einstein expressed such views, and Watson expressed such views, then maybe what they call racism is something that is not so out of the norm after all. It appears racist have not only been with us for centuries, but that they have contributed possibly more than any other group to the advanced civilization we have today. Isn’t it time their persecution should cease?

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    • Replies: @Bliss

    If they find evidence that an historical figure was one-part black, then it means blacks are just as responsible for our civilization as whites......Well if Einstein expressed such views, and Watson expressed such views
     
    Well, guess what? Both Einstein and Watson were part black:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1937345/posts

    JAMES WATSON, the DNA pioneer who claimed Africans are less intelligent than whites, has been found to have 16 times more genes of black origin than the average white European. An analysis of his genome shows that 16% of his genes are likely to have come from a black ancestor of African descent. By contrast, most people of European descent would have no more than 1%.

    The study was made possible when he allowed his genome - the map of all his genes - to be published on the internet in the interests of science. “This level is what you would expect in someone who had a great-grandparent who was African,” said Kari Stefansson of deCODE Genetics, whose company carried out the analysis.


    And here is Einstein’s mother:

    https://history.aip.org/exhibits/einstein/images/ae3.jpg
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  32. songbird says:
    @istevefan

    The disquieting comment that the Chinese may ‘supplant all other races’ is also most revealing in this regard,” writes Rosenkranz.
     
    I don't think we have to wonder what Einstein would think today about Sailer's most important graph.

    Lagos is supposed to have a population of 88 million by 2100. I don’t see how that is possible – so I expect things to fall apart before then.

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    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    The rich will remain on Victoria Island and even build a peninsula on it called Eko Atlantic. The city will be a hellscape run by criminal gangs that are embedded in local government, also like now.

    Only the scale will be different. That is unless a miracle happens, as it did with China, but I see zero evidence for it.
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  33. anonymous[256] • Disclaimer says:

    Actually I find it refreshing to read that Herr Doktor Einstein was a lot more than a just a walking computer. His response to what he saw is perfectly understandable. This is surely a blow to the idealistic Mr.Rosenkranz. Wonder how much sleep he lost.

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  35. Roger says: • Website

    “Liberal” is not the right word for Einstein. He was a member of several Communist front organizations. He was a Commie.

    He wrote, “It would be a pity if these Chinese supplant all other races.”

    It would be much more racist to say that it would be a good thing for Chinese to supplant all other races. Apparently it is now considered racist to have any opinion on the matter at all.

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    • Replies: @Svigor
    Well played.
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  36. anonymous[256] • Disclaimer says:

    “The answer to this question seems very relevant in today’s world, in which the hatred of the other is so rampant in so many places around the world,” he (Rosenkranz) writes.

    Gee, ya think? Welcome to the world, Rosey.

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  37. “After earlier writing of the “abundance of offspring” and the “fecundity” of the Chinese, he goes on to say: “It would be a pity if these Chinese supplant all other races. For the likes of us the mere thought is unspeakably dreary.” “

    Steve, you sure you aren’t Einstein in disguise?

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  38. nebulafox says:
    @Alec Leamas
    Well, I suppose the definition of "liberal" has changed a great deal since Einstein's time, hasn't it?

    Well, I should have clarified myself a little better: he was a committed internationalist, anti-nationalist, pacifist, and socialist who felt an immediate happy rush upon leaving Wilhelminian Germany with its social regimentation and militarism. Which, given his life experiences, was a rather understandable position to take, even if many around these parts wouldn’t agree with it. Again: this would not remotely translate into modern day SJWism with its open disdain for empirical scientific reality. Still, to get an idea of how disdainful the young Einstein was for the societal conventions of his day, especially nationalism and related ideas, his first wife was an Orthodox Serb from southern Hungary. That was flat out scandalous in the bourgeois Mitteleuropean Jewish milieu from which he came.

    Now, in the 1920s, when this letter was written, he had settled down somewhat with his radically different second wife into the sort of aforementioned respectable bourgeois Mitteleuropean upper-middle class life (in Berlin working at the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute, of all places) he would have scorned as a younger man-the irony of which was probably not lost on him. (“Fate has cursed my contempt for authority by making me one.”) But the 1930s and the rise of Hitler would change that, big time.

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    Re: "Einstein's wife was an Orthodox Serb from southern Hungary"

    Actually, Mileva Marić, Einstein's first wife, was born into a wealthy
    Serbian family in Titel, Serbia, the country then occupied by the Austrian
    Hapsburgs. She was 4 years older than Einstein. Their first son Hans
    Albert was born in 1904, and emigrated to the U.S. in 1938. He later
    became a professor of engineering at UC Berkeley. He had 4 children,
    one of whom, Bernhard Caesar Einstein (1930-2008) also became a
    physicist, and worked at Texas Instruments and Litton Industries.
    He, in turn, had 5 children, so fecundity seems to run in the family.
    One of his children (i.e., Einstein's great-grandchildren) is a physician
    at the UCLA Medical Center in Santa Monica
    , @Kratoklastes

    his first wife was an Orthodox Serb
     
    Well, then both he and she were being a tad unorthodox, then. He shoulda married an Unorthodox Serb (is that the same as an Orthodox Croat? Are these things multiplicative?).

    Ba-dup... tssssssh.

    (I'll see myself out).
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  39. tomv says:

    There’s also a less flattering side of Einstein in his domestic affairs.

    https://www.nytimes.com/1996/11/06/arts/dark-side-of-einstein-emerges-in-his-letters.html

    Nobody’s perfect, which is why I always cringe at liberals’ attempt to make gods out of men (MLK, Gandhi, Mandela, etc).

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  40. Anonymous[180] • Disclaimer says:

    Einstein was a racist.

    Please spread this meme far and wide.

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    Sort of like Albert Schweitzer, Bertrand Russell and Gandhi.
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  41. Towel Ban says:
    @Alec Leamas
    Einstein - backwards, mouthbreathing redneck.

    Who knew?

    Well Einstein did marry his first cousin. Although that’s more of a quality practiced by a certain Levantine desert tribe than it is by white Scots-Irish working class people called “rednecks”.

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  42. anon[359] • Disclaimer says:
    @Malcolm X-Lax
    Racial superiority for me but not for thee, chink! On behalf of my Asian wife, I want to knock down his statue personally!

    But, seriously, how are jews going to handle this one? My guess is by largely ignoring it.

    Well, they can always pretend he’s a southern redneck, like they did with Donald T. Sterling when he became too much of an embarrassment. But Einstein is too valuable as a symbol of Jewish genius, so this will be quickly memory-holed.

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    If my memory serves me correctly, the ADL held a press conference or issued a press release just to announce that Michael "N-word" Richards was NOT jewish. Though I still have my suspicions.
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  43. J.Ross says: • Website

    Let’s remember Mencken, who was posthumously unpersonned when it was learned that he made ugly observations about Jews in his private diary, and who in public attempted to pressure FDR to allow European Jewish refugees into the country.

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    "Mencken ... who was posthumously unpersonned"

    Story never happened.
    , @Mishra
    As with Richard Wagner. But these two had the temerity to voice criticisms of chosenites, which is a different matter entirely. Einstein's safe.
    , @Rosamond Vincy
    Mencken also was one of Leo Frank's supporters. Bit like St. Maximilien Kolbe, who thought too many Jews tended to be Commies, but hid thousands of them in his friary even after the first time the Nazis arrested him.

    Give me a bigot who tries to do what is right and just over Woke SJWs who sic their posses on anyone who doesn't agree with them.
    , @Brutusale
    Unpersoned by whom? I think I read his "good and hard" line quoted somewhere every single day.
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  44. Now we know why he built that bomb.

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  45. Racism now wildly oversold as humanity’s prime scrourge.

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    Thank you!
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  46. theMann says:

    Consider the following options:

    A.) Make the, ah, acquaintance of Marilyn Monroe.
    B.) Make the acquaintance of every Chinese woman since the dawn of time.

    Obviously, option A makes you a Racist.

    Oh, that Racist Einstein.

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    I must admit that I prefer Chinese girls to Marilyn:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuxQu2AoBUk
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  47. @anon
    Well, they can always pretend he's a southern redneck, like they did with Donald T. Sterling when he became too much of an embarrassment. But Einstein is too valuable as a symbol of Jewish genius, so this will be quickly memory-holed.

    If my memory serves me correctly, the ADL held a press conference or issued a press release just to announce that Michael “N-word” Richards was NOT jewish. Though I still have my suspicions.

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  48. Ol’ Albert really was smart, wasn’t he?

    Of course he could be proven wrong someday — about his physics, that is.

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  49. What did Einstein think of the Palestinians? He almost became the second President of Israel and thus would have been in a position to lord over them and continue their displacement from their ancestral homeland.

    I also find that North American Jews traditionally have not looked fondly on the Japanese. Maybe Japanese society is too homogenous, ethnocentric and anti-communist for their tastes. Phillip Roth wrote how during World War Two young Jewish kids in Newark prayed for a humiliating Japanese defeat and followed the Pacific War just as closely as the European War. In today’s age, I also notice that American Jewish guys with yellow fever tend to date/marry Chinese women à la Mark Zuckerberg. It is the Anglo/gentile guys who go after the Japanese girls.

    I guess as a prewar European/Germanic Jew Einstein was in a position to think differently.

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  50. One quote Einstein wont ever be criticized for:

    “I honor Lenin as a man who completely sacrificed himself and devoted all his energy to the realization of social justice. I do not consider his methods practical, but one thing is certain: men of his type are the guardians and restorers of humanity.”

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    That quote was misattributed to Einstein. It was actually from Will Rogers ... or Mark Twain ... no, wait, it was Yogi Berra.
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  51. As I said on another thread in response to a member of the Tabula Rasa Human Church:

    If you want to see real pollution, go to China, which has copied our manufacturing with our money but without our pollution control.

    For another example of difference:

    A professor I know traveled there and told me about using public toilets that consisted of a room with concrete platforms out in the open. Each platform had a hole you squatted over in front of everybody. His travel buddy looked at him squatting and shitting and said, “I wish I had a camera right now so I could show the picture to your students.”

    I’m sure that’s changed now. They are going to absorb us, you know, using our cash.

    (For those who see my cracks at China as foolish: That nation is the long-term enemy of our people, and I don’t care what you think.)

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    Disrupting your masturbatory White Pride fest hardly makes me a blank slater. You are embarassing yourself.
    , @Old Palo Altan
    As any traveller to France can tell you, such toilets were common there until quite recently, and perhaps still are. Take some getting used to.

    As for the "racism": as I have had occasion to point out more than once here, such sane attitudes to the "other" were universal. Nothing is more amusing than to see a modern liberal blanche when discovering the "racism" of the great men of the past - all of them. One particularly striking example is Gottlob Frege.
    It is the modern view, flying as it does in the face of all experience, which is madness incarnate.
    , @3g4me
    @51 Buzz Mohawk -

    For your fount of White working-man wisdom, your race-realism, your American patriotism, and your overall comment quality (not to mention your father's contribution to modern plumbing) I am your #1 fan!

    XXXOOO (from one happily-married individual to another!)

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  52. BB753 says:

    Racism could always be rebranded as the new, woke, hip way of noticing diversity!

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  53. foulkes says:

    Not too much different than the Jesuits observations when they arrived in Asia in the 16th century.
    They saw something in the Japanese but not the rest. Prescient

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  54. Wow a jew virtue signalling against whites in public and stating the truth in private.

    An unheard of hypocrisy I’m sure.

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  55. Antiwar7 says:

    Albert Einstein was always a grade-A hypocrite. When Germany invaded Serbia, his then-wife’s country, he was a pacifist. When the Nazis threatened Jews, he wrote a letter to the US president urging him to develop an atom bomb. Enough said.

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    1) Austria-Hungary invaded Serbia, not Germany.

    2) By 1914, Einstein's first marriage was dead. His wife left for Switzerland with the boys right before the war started. Also, unlike most intellectuals in Germany(Jews included), he was against the outbreak of WW I.

    3) He was honestly scared the Germans would get the bomb first. This was right after the Hahn/Meitner/Stressemann team in Berlin proved nuclear fission.

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  56. Chebyshev says:

    His comments comport with my own observations. Great minds think alike.

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  57. anon[104] • Disclaimer says:

    Has #metoo thrown the half dead G H W Bush back? Catch and release.

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  58. @fnn
    I'm waiting for John Derbyshire's comment

    LOL!!! However, if Einstein were alive today, he’d be on the Chinese side. Jews marry Asians/blacks now. It’s kosher. He would have Marc Zuckerberg as an example.

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    Jews don't marry Blacks; quite the opposite, a (very) few high-profile exceptions aside.
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  59. wtf i love einstein now

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  60. Anon[299] • Disclaimer says:

    The thing that bugs me most about is travel diary is that Einstein had good handwriting. I’m convinced you can’t be a genius unless your handwriting is sloppy.

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    By the standards of Einstein's time, or of my childhood, Einstein's handwriting was neat and legible, but not particularly praiseworthy.
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  61. Read More
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    We've been exporting our plastic waste, along with our factories and pollution, to China. That's why we've had less pollution while still maintaining consumption. It's basically 3 card monte - the pollution and waste gets moved around, but it's still there. Half of the world's exports of plastic and waste are sent to China:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/11/world/china-recyclables-ban.html

    Ever since China announced last year that it no longer wanted to be the “world’s garbage dump,” recycling about half of the globe’s plastics and paper products, Western nations have been puzzling over what to do when the ban went into effect, which it did on Jan. 1.

    The answer, to date, in Britain at least, is nothing. At least one waste disposal site in London is already seeing a buildup of plastic recyclables and has had to pay to have some of it removed.

    Similar backups have been reported in Canada, Ireland, Germany and several other European nations, while tons of rubbish is piling up in port cities like Hong Kong.

    Steve Frank, of Pioneer Recycling in Oregon, owns two plants that collect and sort 220,000 tons of recyclable materials each year. A majority of it was until recently exported to China.

    “My inventory is out of control,” he said.

    China’s ban, Mr. Frank said, has caused “a major upset of the flow of global recyclables.” Now, he said, he is hoping to export waste to countries like Indonesia, India, Vietnam, Malaysia — “anywhere we can” — but “they can’t make up the difference.”
     
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  62. Mr. Anon says:
    @trelane
    I will never look at Einstein the same way. That dirty rotten no good racist. You know what you can do with your racist E=mc^2?

    I will never look at Einstein the same way. That dirty rotten no good racist. You know what you can do with your racist E=mc^2?

    More like E=K^3!

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    • Replies: @Gordo
    His name must be expunged from all textbooks.
    , @midtown
    Nice one!
    , @Kratoklastes
    Dude - that's massively insensitive to the "E-fluid" and those who identify as "non-E" (or who reject the whole E construct).

    It should be

    "(Whatever designator you choose) = (whatever you feel is right for you)^(whatever power you think is necessary to end your oppression) + (a participation trophy)"

     

    Mathematics is fascistic slavery, with its imposition of all sorts of rules that restrict expression.
    1 + 1 = ice-cream (or anti-Semite!!!) should be equally-acceptable responses, and if you think they're not, you are basically Hitler.
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  63. If Hannah Arendt were alive, she could write a new book,

    Einstein In China: A Report on the Banality of Racism.

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  64. Einstein looked pretty happy in Japan.

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  65. A google search reveals this story has been picked up by…no one. Apparently not much media interest in the fact that the (((Time Magazine))) “Man of the Century” was a proto-alt-righter. Indeed, I haven’t seen this kind of lack of interest in a story since it came out that Gandhi found not f’ing 12 year old girls his greatest personal challenge.

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    Did it show up at all in that recent definitive biography that was flogged and feted everywhere?
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  66. AndrewR says:
    @Rosie

    Well, I suppose the definition of “liberal” has changed a great deal since Einstein’s time, hasn’t it?
     
    I didn't leave liberalism. Liberalism left me, somewhere back in the '50s.

    Good God. What are you, 85 years old?

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    What are you, 85 years old?
     
    You might try reading the post for content pajama boy - she did not write that she left liberalism in the 1950s.
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  67. AndrewR says:
    @Mr. Anon

    ............., the man who famously once described racism as “a disease of white people” ...........
     
    A disease of "fellow white people".

    Here, Einstein perceives a foreign ‘race’ as a threat, which … is one of the characteristics of a racist ideology.
     
    For most of his adult life, Einstein perceived the german 'race' as a threat. Was that deemed characteristic of a racist ideology on his part?

    Silly goy, the chosen ones can’t be racist.

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  68. AndrewR says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    As I said on another thread in response to a member of the Tabula Rasa Human Church:

    If you want to see real pollution, go to China, which has copied our manufacturing with our money but without our pollution control.
     
    For another example of difference:

    A professor I know traveled there and told me about using public toilets that consisted of a room with concrete platforms out in the open. Each platform had a hole you squatted over in front of everybody. His travel buddy looked at him squatting and shitting and said, "I wish I had a camera right now so I could show the picture to your students."

    I'm sure that's changed now. They are going to absorb us, you know, using our cash.

    (For those who see my cracks at China as foolish: That nation is the long-term enemy of our people, and I don't care what you think.)

    Disrupting your masturbatory White Pride fest hardly makes me a blank slater. You are embarassing yourself.

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    Very well. Tabula rasa was the wrong term to apply to you. I am thereby embarrassed. You are a master debater.

    If you are not a blank slater, then you must be a race relativist. If you were not, you would not try to shame a white man when he proudly refers to the accomplishments of his race, and you would not use a dubious list of damages as a trumped up argument against his pride and the reasonableness of it.

    Pride is needed now.

    You have attempted to shame a white man for expressing this pride by accusing him of using it for his own pleasure, as if taking pleasure in the good qualities one's racial family is a bad thing. You are not making any sense unless your goal is to diminish that family or the man, or to make his race appear no better than any other. You are making a race relativist argument.

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  69. Anonymous[326] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Einstein was a racist.

    Please spread this meme far and wide.

    Sort of like Albert Schweitzer, Bertrand Russell and Gandhi.

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    yeah i can't wait 'til they get a hold of what schweitzer said about the schwartzas!
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  70. Anon[536] • Disclaimer says:

    But wait! I thought that travel was “fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness” -Twain. Guess Mark got that one wrong!

    Btw, how did Einstein’s father manage to impregnate his mother? (But to be fair, old photos are often unflattering)

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    Actually, Twain was disgusted by the Middle East. He was even more disgusted by the forced ecstasies of the Christians on the same pilgrimage.
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  71. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Malcolm X-Lax
    A google search reveals this story has been picked up by...no one. Apparently not much media interest in the fact that the (((Time Magazine))) "Man of the Century" was a proto-alt-righter. Indeed, I haven't seen this kind of lack of interest in a story since it came out that Gandhi found not f'ing 12 year old girls his greatest personal challenge.

    Did it show up at all in that recent definitive biography that was flogged and feted everywhere?

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  72. Lot says:
    @J.Ross
    Let's remember Mencken, who was posthumously unpersonned when it was learned that he made ugly observations about Jews in his private diary, and who in public attempted to pressure FDR to allow European Jewish refugees into the country.

    “Mencken … who was posthumously unpersonned”

    Story never happened.

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    Not entirely false. Or maybe was it just a coincidence that a guy named Friedheim (publisher of something called Travel Agent magazine) in 1990 paid the National Press Club $1 million dollars to change the name of its HL Mencken Room to the Friedheim Room:
    https://www.press.org/news-multimedia/news/npc-history-trumps-first-appearance-club


    There was also a prestigious award for journalists named after Mencken that disappeared without notice at some point in the 1990s as far as I can tell from a Google check.
    , @TTSSYF
    Who’s ever heard of him today?
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  73. Anonymous[270] • Disclaimer says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    http://www.worldfuturefund.org/Reports/plastic.jpg

    We’ve been exporting our plastic waste, along with our factories and pollution, to China. That’s why we’ve had less pollution while still maintaining consumption. It’s basically 3 card monte – the pollution and waste gets moved around, but it’s still there. Half of the world’s exports of plastic and waste are sent to China:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/11/world/china-recyclables-ban.html

    Ever since China announced last year that it no longer wanted to be the “world’s garbage dump,” recycling about half of the globe’s plastics and paper products, Western nations have been puzzling over what to do when the ban went into effect, which it did on Jan. 1.

    The answer, to date, in Britain at least, is nothing. At least one waste disposal site in London is already seeing a buildup of plastic recyclables and has had to pay to have some of it removed.

    Similar backups have been reported in Canada, Ireland, Germany and several other European nations, while tons of rubbish is piling up in port cities like Hong Kong.

    Steve Frank, of Pioneer Recycling in Oregon, owns two plants that collect and sort 220,000 tons of recyclable materials each year. A majority of it was until recently exported to China.

    “My inventory is out of control,” he said.

    China’s ban, Mr. Frank said, has caused “a major upset of the flow of global recyclables.” Now, he said, he is hoping to export waste to countries like Indonesia, India, Vietnam, Malaysia — “anywhere we can” — but “they can’t make up the difference.”

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    It is interesting that the story refers to this as "recycling."

    Ever since China announced last year that it no longer wanted to be the “world’s garbage dump,” recycling about half of the globe’s plastics and paper products...
     

    At least one waste disposal site in London is already seeing a buildup of plastic recyclables...
     

    Steve Frank, of Pioneer Recycling in Oregon, owns two plants that collect and sort 220,000 tons of recyclable materials... exported to China.

     


    China’s ban, Mr. Frank said, has caused “a major upset of the flow of global recyclables.”
     
    This calls two things into question:

    1) The recycling farce itself. Was all that plastic we were coerced into separating and putting into bins just being "recycled" to some country that dumped it into the ocean?

    2) The honesty of the recycling industry here and over there. Was it implied that the plastic would be recycled when it fact it was, wink wink, just thrown into the ocean? Was it just another money-making scam and lie?

    If it is just going to be dumped, then don't call it recycling.

    Also, maybe someone could do the math and determine how much of East Asia's plastic dumping is/was accounted for by what the West was sending them?
    , @Unzerker
    Oh what on earth should we do now with our combustible products made from oil?
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    Yep, all those treehuggers on the West coast and in the big cities want to believe so badly that those big bins (with the little ones for the rest of the trash) are full of stuff that will really be recycled. If it makes them feel better, that's what matters - most of them don't do any blue-water sailing.

    Towards Sustainable Stupidity

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  74. Anon[410] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hippopotamusdrome
    One quote Einstein wont ever be criticized for:

    "I honor Lenin as a man who completely sacrificed himself and devoted all his energy to the realization of social justice. I do not consider his methods practical, but one thing is certain: men of his type are the guardians and restorers of humanity."

     

    That quote was misattributed to Einstein. It was actually from Will Rogers … or Mark Twain … no, wait, it was Yogi Berra.

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    Please tell wikipedia and snopes about their error then.


    Political views of Albert Einstein

     

    You may be right. Would someone who wrote "Why Socialism?" praise Lenin?
    , @Hippopotamusdrome


    That quote was misattributed to Einstein. It was actually from Will Rogers … or Mark Twain … no, wait, it was Yogi Berra.

     

    This is serious. You should contact The Albert Einstein® Archives at the University of Jerusalem and inform them they are exhibiting a forged document.

    Specifically, Archival Call Number: 47-471, Ich verehre in Lenin einen Mann, der seine ganze Kraft unter völliger Aufopferung seiner Person
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  75. CCZ says:
    @songbird
    This case is obviously meant to be more like didactic introspection than an attack: "Even Einstein was guilty of racism, therefore how much more likely are you? Don't be a racist! You can prove it by supporting endless immigration into white countries."

    Whites can never not be racist. The table below “proves” that. The product of a black, decolonisation psychologist.

    https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Covert-and-Overt-White-Supremacy_fig1_324890681?_sg=zGOYooBc9933-wTxbUlijxq1FiG54GO3XQjwKvC_H2OGZkVrZ7-RjodgizlcrNtyw7LbsVsClveJ1Is6mVfpvA

    ‘You Shall Not Replace Us!’ White supremacy, psychotherapy and decolonisation
    Article (PDF Available) in British Journal of Medical Psychology 18(1) · March 2018 with 29 Reads

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    Several years ago, I was running an experiential seminar in South East London for psychotherapy trainees. One of the participants was a white middle-class woman of a comparable age to myself. Perhaps because of this personal nature, I found myself being regularly attacked by her. Often, she would interrupt me, make tutting noises when I spoke, or sigh whenever I asked how everyone was.
    The attacks were also verbal, ranging from being told that I did not know what I was doing, to the fact that I could not possibly be a psychotherapist because I did not look like one, to my making her fearful because I was so aggressive.

     

    So the paper starts with an anecdote about microaggressions, naturally, quickly followed by dismissing one's own apparently open aggression. (A few paragraphs later the woman returns to abase herself; perhaps someone squealed to HR. We shall never know.)

    Written by one black Dwight Turner at the University of Brighton. Why are you in the West, Dwight? Don't pretend to understand us. Just get out. Decolonize now.

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  76. Anon[402] • Disclaimer says:

    Truly awesome.

    First Aristotle, now Einstein.

    I truly stand on the shoulders of giants.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/washington-post-aristotle-is-to-blame-for-charles-murray/

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  77. backup says:

    “In my eyes, indisposed
    In disguises no one knows
    Hides the face, lies the snake”

    From “Black Hole Sun”

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  78. DFH says:

    the man who famously once described racism as “a disease of white people”

    Wow, who would have expected a Jewish person to say something like this?

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  79. Mishra says:
    @J.Ross
    Let's remember Mencken, who was posthumously unpersonned when it was learned that he made ugly observations about Jews in his private diary, and who in public attempted to pressure FDR to allow European Jewish refugees into the country.

    As with Richard Wagner. But these two had the temerity to voice criticisms of chosenites, which is a different matter entirely. Einstein’s safe.

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  80. Ed says:

    It’s somewhat amazing reading older accounts by individuals describing the characteristics of racial and ethnic groups. For the most part they tend to be remarkably consistent with each other and would be an accurate description of the groups today.

    Yet liberals detect no pattern.

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  81. Bliss says:
    @istevefan

    "Einstein did make quite a few racist and dehumanising comments in the diary, some of which were extremely unpleasant.”
     
    Does this mean racists are to be welcomed into polite society? I mean you can't get anyone more iconic than Einstein. Throw in James "DNA" Watson and a boatload of others from times past, and one could make the case that racists have always been a part of our civilization, and that racists have contributed mightily to our culture. Is it time for them to be able to come out of the closet?

    Isn't that how the other side likes to play with facts when it comes to finding a needle in the haystack that pokes a hole in our balloon? If they find evidence that an historical figure was one-part black, then it means blacks are just as responsible for our civilization as whites. If they find evidence that the Romans brought some Africans with them to Britain, then Africans are just as entitled to live in Britain today as are the British who have been there for 1500 years.

    If they find evidence that gays or transgenders served in the military in the past, then they should be allowed to serve openly today.

    If they find evidence that some of the slaves in colonial America were muslims, then islam has always been part and parcel of the USA.

    Well if Einstein expressed such views, and Watson expressed such views, then maybe what they call racism is something that is not so out of the norm after all. It appears racist have not only been with us for centuries, but that they have contributed possibly more than any other group to the advanced civilization we have today. Isn't it time their persecution should cease?

    If they find evidence that an historical figure was one-part black, then it means blacks are just as responsible for our civilization as whites……Well if Einstein expressed such views, and Watson expressed such views

    Well, guess what? Both Einstein and Watson were part black:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1937345/posts

    JAMES WATSON, the DNA pioneer who claimed Africans are less intelligent than whites, has been found to have 16 times more genes of black origin than the average white European. An analysis of his genome shows that 16% of his genes are likely to have come from a black ancestor of African descent. By contrast, most people of European descent would have no more than 1%.

    The study was made possible when he allowed his genome – the map of all his genes – to be published on the internet in the interests of science. “This level is what you would expect in someone who had a great-grandparent who was African,” said Kari Stefansson of deCODE Genetics, whose company carried out the analysis.

    And here is Einstein’s mother:

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    Well, guess what? Both Einstein and Watson were part black:
     
    From a commenter named Steve Sailer at Nature

    Simple arithmetic suggests that this story is likely mostly another one of the errors that racial admixture testing companies are notorious for. If you look the first half dozen pages of Watson’s autobiography, Avoid Boring People, you’ll see photos of his mother, father, and maternal grandmother, all of whom look like average white people.

    His mother’s side of the family were recent immigrants from the British Isles, so if they were 100% white, as seems likely, then Watson’s father would have to have been 50% nonwhite for Watson to be 25% nonwhite. His father’s side of the family, however, was quite socially fashionable and prosperous for several generations, and there’s no evidence that they ever suffered racial discrimination for being highly nonwhite. For example, his paternal grandfather was a stockbroker who married an heiress.

    Similarly, Watson lists the names of his father’s three brothers and his paternal grandfather’s four brothers, so it’s unlikely that either one engaged in passing from black to white, since that typically required abandoning family connections, since some relatives would look black. Philip Roth’s novel “The Human Stain” has a lot of useful detail to help you understand the wrenching mechanics of passing, and they aren’t compatible with Watson’s family history.

     

    As for Einstein, your proof is a photo of his mother?
    , @Anon
    It's extremely rare for anyone of older English Ancestry to have black genes. There just weren't enough blacks around in England before the modern era to have produced much in the way of descendants. However, I would not be surprised that once Watson submitted his DNA, someone at the testing company reported false results just to maliciously mess around with Watson's legacy. For example, the testers at 23andMe are notorious for producing false results to 'get at' whites they hate and despise. I think Watson was targeted the same way. You can't trust the honesty of the DNA companies when they're got an agenda and an SJW is in charge of the test results.
    , @Mr. Anon
    She doesn't look black; she looks Samoan. Is somebody suggesting that sometime back in the 19th century, a jewish guy in Ulm married a samoan mail-order bride?

    The more likely explanation is that she was just ugly.
    , @attilathehen
    Bliss, Watson is not 16% black. What they found were some gypsy genes.

    Why do you care if people are black? Aren't you a Muslim? We commented a while back and you were defending Muslims. Most Muslims are black/Asian.

    Who, what are you? Your comments are all over the map.
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  82. CE says:
    @fnn
    I'm waiting for John Derbyshire's comment

    The time he visited China was about the nadir of Chinese civilization. Remember if you read Europeans’ views of America, many at different times had quite low opinions of the Americans. From about 1840 to 1950, China went through major change from basically a mideval world into a modern world with basically everystep gone wrong. And then, after 1949, another kind of terror went on for a few more decades. A somewhat normal kind of development only started in the 1980s. And still there was 1989.

    I doubt many Chinese would feel angry about Einstein’s private diary. Many would only be reminded about their own country’s painful experience. “They” came for Einstein, who are they? Your own western liberals.

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    Remember if you read Europeans’ views of America, many at different times had quite low opinions of the Americans.
     
    Holders of negative opinions of America have always been common among European elites and self-styled dissidents. Before 1945 they were mainly aristocratic right-wing elites (and fascists and nazis when they were around). After 1945 it was mainly Marxists. In the current postmodern and neoliberal era the anti-Americans are Euro SWPLs, SJWs, Antifa and other prisoners of American pop culture. There were a few eccentric right-wing anti-Americans in the post-WW2 era such as Julius Evola. Some Italian neo-fascist once said of Evola, "He's our Marcuse, only better."
    , @attilathehen
    China is a still a mess. I have a sister who's traveled to China, Singapore and Hong Kong for business. She hates these countries. She said the Chinese in all 3 countries are ugly, dirty, rude, and dumb. As long as the Chinese stay in their countries, they can do whatever they want.

    My sister has traveled to Argentina for business. She loves Argentina. It's European and she said the people are beautiful. She hopes she will never have to go back to the East and wants to be sent to Argentina as much as possible.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    Remember if you read Europeans’ views of America, many at different times had quite low opinions of the Americans.

    There are a number of travel books written in the 1840s by English men and women who traveled around the frontier areas of America and provided lurid accounts of the violent, backward denizens therein. Bowie knives carried brazenly, rough-and-tumble fights, brutal duels, filth and poverty, animalistic table manners, etc. There was a good market for these back in England.
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  83. Pericles says:
    @CCZ
    Whites can never not be racist. The table below "proves" that. The product of a black, decolonisation psychologist.

    https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Covert-and-Overt-White-Supremacy_fig1_324890681?_sg=zGOYooBc9933-wTxbUlijxq1FiG54GO3XQjwKvC_H2OGZkVrZ7-RjodgizlcrNtyw7LbsVsClveJ1Is6mVfpvA

    ‘You Shall Not Replace Us!’ White supremacy, psychotherapy and decolonisation
    Article (PDF Available) in British Journal of Medical Psychology 18(1) · March 2018 with 29 Reads

    Several years ago, I was running an experiential seminar in South East London for psychotherapy trainees. One of the participants was a white middle-class woman of a comparable age to myself. Perhaps because of this personal nature, I found myself being regularly attacked by her. Often, she would interrupt me, make tutting noises when I spoke, or sigh whenever I asked how everyone was.
    The attacks were also verbal, ranging from being told that I did not know what I was doing, to the fact that I could not possibly be a psychotherapist because I did not look like one, to my making her fearful because I was so aggressive.

    So the paper starts with an anecdote about microaggressions, naturally, quickly followed by dismissing one’s own apparently open aggression. (A few paragraphs later the woman returns to abase herself; perhaps someone squealed to HR. We shall never know.)

    Written by one black Dwight Turner at the University of Brighton. Why are you in the West, Dwight? Don’t pretend to understand us. Just get out. Decolonize now.

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  84. Gordo says:
    @Mr. Anon

    I will never look at Einstein the same way. That dirty rotten no good racist. You know what you can do with your racist E=mc^2?
     
    More like E=K^3!

    His name must be expunged from all textbooks.

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  85. @Anon
    That quote was misattributed to Einstein. It was actually from Will Rogers ... or Mark Twain ... no, wait, it was Yogi Berra.

    Please tell wikipedia and snopes about their error then.

    Political views of Albert Einstein

    You may be right. Would someone who wrote “Why Socialism?” praise Lenin?

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  86. istevefan says:
    @Bliss

    If they find evidence that an historical figure was one-part black, then it means blacks are just as responsible for our civilization as whites......Well if Einstein expressed such views, and Watson expressed such views
     
    Well, guess what? Both Einstein and Watson were part black:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1937345/posts

    JAMES WATSON, the DNA pioneer who claimed Africans are less intelligent than whites, has been found to have 16 times more genes of black origin than the average white European. An analysis of his genome shows that 16% of his genes are likely to have come from a black ancestor of African descent. By contrast, most people of European descent would have no more than 1%.

    The study was made possible when he allowed his genome - the map of all his genes - to be published on the internet in the interests of science. “This level is what you would expect in someone who had a great-grandparent who was African,” said Kari Stefansson of deCODE Genetics, whose company carried out the analysis.


    And here is Einstein’s mother:

    https://history.aip.org/exhibits/einstein/images/ae3.jpg

    Well, guess what? Both Einstein and Watson were part black:

    From a commenter named Steve Sailer at Nature

    Simple arithmetic suggests that this story is likely mostly another one of the errors that racial admixture testing companies are notorious for. If you look the first half dozen pages of Watson’s autobiography, Avoid Boring People, you’ll see photos of his mother, father, and maternal grandmother, all of whom look like average white people.

    His mother’s side of the family were recent immigrants from the British Isles, so if they were 100% white, as seems likely, then Watson’s father would have to have been 50% nonwhite for Watson to be 25% nonwhite. His father’s side of the family, however, was quite socially fashionable and prosperous for several generations, and there’s no evidence that they ever suffered racial discrimination for being highly nonwhite. For example, his paternal grandfather was a stockbroker who married an heiress.

    Similarly, Watson lists the names of his father’s three brothers and his paternal grandfather’s four brothers, so it’s unlikely that either one engaged in passing from black to white, since that typically required abandoning family connections, since some relatives would look black. Philip Roth’s novel “The Human Stain” has a lot of useful detail to help you understand the wrenching mechanics of passing, and they aren’t compatible with Watson’s family history.

    As for Einstein, your proof is a photo of his mother?

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    you’ll see photos of his mother, father, and maternal grandmother, all of whom look like average white people
     
    His grandmother sure doesn’t look “average white” Irish:

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4yctHhP4f-8/R1_H5DUlkJI/AAAAAAAAACU/hVwmFLu3RJw/s1600/James_Watson_Grandmother.jpg

    As for Einstein, your proof is a photo of his mother?

     

    What? She looks “average white” to you? Get real. As for Einstein himself you are more likely to find his doppelgängers among the mixed populations of the Caribbean or MENA:

    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/jun/12/einsteins-travel-diaries-reveal-shocking-xenophobia#img-1
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  87. Tyrion 2 says: • Website

    If you’ve never been to a third world country and thought to yourself, sometimes, that this place is dirty or this place smells, you’ve never been to a third world country. As for finding people lazy, they often are. And as for attractiveness, that is his private prerogative.

    All of his observations are pretty straightforward. To be honest, I don’t think even the article writer is particularly serious. The article seems to be an excuse to go through a list of dopaminagernic words that derive their stimulatory power from relating to taboos.

    “Xenophobic”

    “Racist”

    “Misogynist”

    Somewhere Pavlov’s dog is slobbering.

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  88. Realist says:
    @Rod1963
    Indeed he was human and noticed things, particularly differences in people. Their cultures would certainly be alien if not grotesque to a cultured Viennese Jew born in the early 1900's.

    Those differences would have been obvious to anyone, even today they'd notice Chinese behave like ants and most Hindus live squalor and are indifferent to it.

    Still it amazes that those politically correct retards continually apply their ideas of ethics and morality on those from a much earlier era. You can't honestly do that.

    Then again the Left is not intellectually honest at all. They are merely liars and power mad fanatics following a secular religion.

    Their cultures would certainly be alien if not grotesque to a cultured Viennese Jew born in the early 1900′s.

    If you are referring to Einstein, he was born in Germany in the late 1800′s.

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  89. @Anon
    That quote was misattributed to Einstein. It was actually from Will Rogers ... or Mark Twain ... no, wait, it was Yogi Berra.

    That quote was misattributed to Einstein. It was actually from Will Rogers … or Mark Twain … no, wait, it was Yogi Berra.

    This is serious. You should contact The Albert Einstein® Archives at the University of Jerusalem and inform them they are exhibiting a forged document.

    Specifically, Archival Call Number: 47-471, Ich verehre in Lenin einen Mann, der seine ganze Kraft unter völliger Aufopferung seiner Person

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  90. Tyrion 2 says: • Website
    @songbird
    Lagos is supposed to have a population of 88 million by 2100. I don't see how that is possible - so I expect things to fall apart before then.

    The rich will remain on Victoria Island and even build a peninsula on it called Eko Atlantic. The city will be a hellscape run by criminal gangs that are embedded in local government, also like now.

    Only the scale will be different. That is unless a miracle happens, as it did with China, but I see zero evidence for it.

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  91. @AndrewR
    Disrupting your masturbatory White Pride fest hardly makes me a blank slater. You are embarassing yourself.

    Very well. Tabula rasa was the wrong term to apply to you. I am thereby embarrassed. You are a master debater.

    If you are not a blank slater, then you must be a race relativist. If you were not, you would not try to shame a white man when he proudly refers to the accomplishments of his race, and you would not use a dubious list of damages as a trumped up argument against his pride and the reasonableness of it.

    Pride is needed now.

    You have attempted to shame a white man for expressing this pride by accusing him of using it for his own pleasure, as if taking pleasure in the good qualities one’s racial family is a bad thing. You are not making any sense unless your goal is to diminish that family or the man, or to make his race appear no better than any other. You are making a race relativist argument.

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    We know you're a strong white man who don't need no woman, but just tone it down a bit...
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  92. @Buzz Mohawk
    As I said on another thread in response to a member of the Tabula Rasa Human Church:

    If you want to see real pollution, go to China, which has copied our manufacturing with our money but without our pollution control.
     
    For another example of difference:

    A professor I know traveled there and told me about using public toilets that consisted of a room with concrete platforms out in the open. Each platform had a hole you squatted over in front of everybody. His travel buddy looked at him squatting and shitting and said, "I wish I had a camera right now so I could show the picture to your students."

    I'm sure that's changed now. They are going to absorb us, you know, using our cash.

    (For those who see my cracks at China as foolish: That nation is the long-term enemy of our people, and I don't care what you think.)

    As any traveller to France can tell you, such toilets were common there until quite recently, and perhaps still are. Take some getting used to.

    As for the “racism”: as I have had occasion to point out more than once here, such sane attitudes to the “other” were universal. Nothing is more amusing than to see a modern liberal blanche when discovering the “racism” of the great men of the past – all of them. One particularly striking example is Gottlob Frege.
    It is the modern view, flying as it does in the face of all experience, which is madness incarnate.

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    Can affirm. The first time I saw a squat toilet was in china. Then I came to france, and I'd say about 10% of publicly available toilets (not just municipal toilets, but including businesses) are squat toilets. Just used one the other day on a trip to Italy at a rest stop on the highway.

    What's more annoying are the toilets with no seats - typically filthy, I believe because people must steal or just destroy the seats.
    , @Buzz Mohawk
    I have spent time in Paris, on two occasions, in the early 2000s and in this decade. I am familiar with the pissoirs, but I don't recall seeing or using one, and I certainly never saw any shitters that were concrete holes in the ground. Maybe those were somewhere else in France or a long time ago.

    My old friend's literal "shit hole" in China probably isn't there anymore either.

    One thing the Chinese do more than Europeans/Americans is squat. That doesn't make them lesser, it just means they don't use chairs as much as we do. East Asians and a lot of other peoples make do with less furniture than we have in a long time. That is probably changing too.

    I remember hippie literature in the 1970s, maybe in the Whole Earth Catalog or someplace like that, claiming that sitting/shitting on a toilet is worse than squatting for your body. It was typical hippy bullshit that going backwards was better and that our modern world is shit.

    The second part of your reply is appreciated also. It is indeed "sane" to see people who are different as different and to judge for yourself what you think of them. This never should have become a thoughtcrime.

    , @TelfoedJohn
    When I hitchhiked through France in the 90s, the hole-in-the-ground was quite common in out of the way places. I think they’ve cleaned up a bit since then. However, recent immigration must bring a whole new standard of hygiene.

    Recently I went through Basque France and Basque Spain. The French side was immaculate, but it immediately deteriorated in the Spanish side. Strange considering they’re supposed to be the same people. I bet the French Basques are less keen on having a unified homeland.

    The Greeks have this awful system in many of their hotels, where you’re supposed to wipe, and then put your toilet paper in the wastebasket - so the plumbing doesn’t get blocked. The Roman love of plumbing never reached Greece.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    I myself was somewhat startled by George Orwell's antisemitism when reading Down and Out in Paris and London.
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  93. Bliss says:
    @istevefan

    Well, guess what? Both Einstein and Watson were part black:
     
    From a commenter named Steve Sailer at Nature

    Simple arithmetic suggests that this story is likely mostly another one of the errors that racial admixture testing companies are notorious for. If you look the first half dozen pages of Watson’s autobiography, Avoid Boring People, you’ll see photos of his mother, father, and maternal grandmother, all of whom look like average white people.

    His mother’s side of the family were recent immigrants from the British Isles, so if they were 100% white, as seems likely, then Watson’s father would have to have been 50% nonwhite for Watson to be 25% nonwhite. His father’s side of the family, however, was quite socially fashionable and prosperous for several generations, and there’s no evidence that they ever suffered racial discrimination for being highly nonwhite. For example, his paternal grandfather was a stockbroker who married an heiress.

    Similarly, Watson lists the names of his father’s three brothers and his paternal grandfather’s four brothers, so it’s unlikely that either one engaged in passing from black to white, since that typically required abandoning family connections, since some relatives would look black. Philip Roth’s novel “The Human Stain” has a lot of useful detail to help you understand the wrenching mechanics of passing, and they aren’t compatible with Watson’s family history.

     

    As for Einstein, your proof is a photo of his mother?

    you’ll see photos of his mother, father, and maternal grandmother, all of whom look like average white people

    His grandmother sure doesn’t look “average white” Irish:

    As for Einstein, your proof is a photo of his mother?

    What? She looks “average white” to you? Get real. As for Einstein himself you are more likely to find his doppelgängers among the mixed populations of the Caribbean or MENA:

    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/jun/12/einsteins-travel-diaries-reveal-shocking-xenophobia#img-1

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  94. @Anonymous
    We've been exporting our plastic waste, along with our factories and pollution, to China. That's why we've had less pollution while still maintaining consumption. It's basically 3 card monte - the pollution and waste gets moved around, but it's still there. Half of the world's exports of plastic and waste are sent to China:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/11/world/china-recyclables-ban.html

    Ever since China announced last year that it no longer wanted to be the “world’s garbage dump,” recycling about half of the globe’s plastics and paper products, Western nations have been puzzling over what to do when the ban went into effect, which it did on Jan. 1.

    The answer, to date, in Britain at least, is nothing. At least one waste disposal site in London is already seeing a buildup of plastic recyclables and has had to pay to have some of it removed.

    Similar backups have been reported in Canada, Ireland, Germany and several other European nations, while tons of rubbish is piling up in port cities like Hong Kong.

    Steve Frank, of Pioneer Recycling in Oregon, owns two plants that collect and sort 220,000 tons of recyclable materials each year. A majority of it was until recently exported to China.

    “My inventory is out of control,” he said.

    China’s ban, Mr. Frank said, has caused “a major upset of the flow of global recyclables.” Now, he said, he is hoping to export waste to countries like Indonesia, India, Vietnam, Malaysia — “anywhere we can” — but “they can’t make up the difference.”
     

    It is interesting that the story refers to this as “recycling.”

    Ever since China announced last year that it no longer wanted to be the “world’s garbage dump,” recycling about half of the globe’s plastics and paper products…

    At least one waste disposal site in London is already seeing a buildup of plastic recyclables

    Steve Frank, of Pioneer Recycling in Oregon, owns two plants that collect and sort 220,000 tons of recyclable materialsexported to China.

    China’s ban, Mr. Frank said, has caused “a major upset of the flow of global recyclables.”

    This calls two things into question:

    1) The recycling farce itself. Was all that plastic we were coerced into separating and putting into bins just being “recycled” to some country that dumped it into the ocean?

    2) The honesty of the recycling industry here and over there. Was it implied that the plastic would be recycled when it fact it was, wink wink, just thrown into the ocean? Was it just another money-making scam and lie?

    If it is just going to be dumped, then don’t call it recycling.

    Also, maybe someone could do the math and determine how much of East Asia’s plastic dumping is/was accounted for by what the West was sending them?

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    Recycling has always been progressive public theater. Those colorful bags and bins set ostentatiously outside the progressive's home are all about signalling virtue. Recycling wouldn't be half as popular if it wasn't so visible.
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  95. @Old Palo Altan
    As any traveller to France can tell you, such toilets were common there until quite recently, and perhaps still are. Take some getting used to.

    As for the "racism": as I have had occasion to point out more than once here, such sane attitudes to the "other" were universal. Nothing is more amusing than to see a modern liberal blanche when discovering the "racism" of the great men of the past - all of them. One particularly striking example is Gottlob Frege.
    It is the modern view, flying as it does in the face of all experience, which is madness incarnate.

    Can affirm. The first time I saw a squat toilet was in china. Then I came to france, and I’d say about 10% of publicly available toilets (not just municipal toilets, but including businesses) are squat toilets. Just used one the other day on a trip to Italy at a rest stop on the highway.

    What’s more annoying are the toilets with no seats – typically filthy, I believe because people must steal or just destroy the seats.

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  96. @Old Palo Altan
    As any traveller to France can tell you, such toilets were common there until quite recently, and perhaps still are. Take some getting used to.

    As for the "racism": as I have had occasion to point out more than once here, such sane attitudes to the "other" were universal. Nothing is more amusing than to see a modern liberal blanche when discovering the "racism" of the great men of the past - all of them. One particularly striking example is Gottlob Frege.
    It is the modern view, flying as it does in the face of all experience, which is madness incarnate.

    I have spent time in Paris, on two occasions, in the early 2000s and in this decade. I am familiar with the pissoirs, but I don’t recall seeing or using one, and I certainly never saw any shitters that were concrete holes in the ground. Maybe those were somewhere else in France or a long time ago.

    My old friend’s literal “shit hole” in China probably isn’t there anymore either.

    One thing the Chinese do more than Europeans/Americans is squat. That doesn’t make them lesser, it just means they don’t use chairs as much as we do. East Asians and a lot of other peoples make do with less furniture than we have in a long time. That is probably changing too.

    I remember hippie literature in the 1970s, maybe in the Whole Earth Catalog or someplace like that, claiming that sitting/shitting on a toilet is worse than squatting for your body. It was typical hippy bullshit that going backwards was better and that our modern world is shit.

    The second part of your reply is appreciated also. It is indeed “sane” to see people who are different as different and to judge for yourself what you think of them. This never should have become a thoughtcrime.

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    I remember hippie literature in the 1970s, maybe in the Whole Earth Catalog or someplace like that, claiming that sitting/shitting on a toilet is worse than squatting for your body. It was typical hippy bullshit that going backwards was better and that our modern world is shit.
     
    That is actually true. You can verify it for yourself next time you're constipated. Adjust your posture to more of a squat and things will go notably smoother.
    , @Anonymous
    Incidentally, in East Asia, the Chinese are known for sitting in chairs and for their traditional wooden chairs, while the Japanese sat on mats on the floor and never built elaborate wooden chairs.

    Sitting on the toilet is believed to cause hemorrhoids and other issues like constipation. This is why the Squatty Potty has become popular:

    https://i.imgur.com/KaewN6N.jpg
    , @ScarletNumber

    I remember hippie literature in the 1970s, maybe in the Whole Earth Catalog or someplace like that, claiming that sitting/shitting on a toilet is worse than squatting for your body.
     
    You've never heard of the Squatty Potty?
    , @3g4me
    @96 Buzz Mohawk: "One thing the Chinese do more than Europeans/Americans is squat. That doesn’t make them lesser, it just means they don’t use chairs as much as we do."

    One of my husband's cousins remembered that when "Uncle Bob" (my late father-in-law) returned from his tour of duty in Vietnam in 1965, he "squatted a lot." Since he was over 6 feet tall and, at that time, thin to the point of being gaunt, it must have been a strange sight to all his American nieces and nephews.
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  97. jim jones says:
    @theMann
    Consider the following options:


    A.) Make the, ah, acquaintance of Marilyn Monroe.
    B.) Make the acquaintance of every Chinese woman since the dawn of time.

    Obviously, option A makes you a Racist.

    Oh, that Racist Einstein.

    I must admit that I prefer Chinese girls to Marilyn:

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  98. @trelane
    I will never look at Einstein the same way. That dirty rotten no good racist. You know what you can do with your racist E=mc^2?

    Entitlement = Male Cis Squares

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  99. Svigor says:

    “Here, Einstein perceives a foreign ‘race’ as a threat, which … is one of the characteristics of a racist ideology. Yet the remark that must strike the modern reader as most offensive is his feigning not to understand how Chinese men can find their women sufficiently attractive to have offspring with them. In light of these instances, we must conclude that Einstein did make quite a few racist and dehumanising comments in the diary, some of which were extremely unpleasant.”

    Presumably the fact that Palestinians aren’t a foreign race gets millions of Jews off the hook for racism?

    And I suppose narrowing down the hatred and fear of Whites to just the heterosexual gentile men gets the left off the hook?

    For years, Einstein has been my go-to Jew for subjecting Jews’ “no True Scotsman” technique to the Socratic Method; if (bad) irreligious Jews aren’t really Jews, why do Jews all accept Einstein as a Jew?

    Looks like I might be shopping for a new ideal Jew…

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  100. Svigor says:
    @Roger
    "Liberal" is not the right word for Einstein. He was a member of several Communist front organizations. He was a Commie.

    He wrote, "It would be a pity if these Chinese supplant all other races."

    It would be much more racist to say that it would be a good thing for Chinese to supplant all other races. Apparently it is now considered racist to have any opinion on the matter at all.

    Well played.

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  101. @Old Palo Altan
    As any traveller to France can tell you, such toilets were common there until quite recently, and perhaps still are. Take some getting used to.

    As for the "racism": as I have had occasion to point out more than once here, such sane attitudes to the "other" were universal. Nothing is more amusing than to see a modern liberal blanche when discovering the "racism" of the great men of the past - all of them. One particularly striking example is Gottlob Frege.
    It is the modern view, flying as it does in the face of all experience, which is madness incarnate.

    When I hitchhiked through France in the 90s, the hole-in-the-ground was quite common in out of the way places. I think they’ve cleaned up a bit since then. However, recent immigration must bring a whole new standard of hygiene.

    Recently I went through Basque France and Basque Spain. The French side was immaculate, but it immediately deteriorated in the Spanish side. Strange considering they’re supposed to be the same people. I bet the French Basques are less keen on having a unified homeland.

    The Greeks have this awful system in many of their hotels, where you’re supposed to wipe, and then put your toilet paper in the wastebasket – so the plumbing doesn’t get blocked. The Roman love of plumbing never reached Greece.

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    you’re supposed to wipe, and then put your toilet paper in the wastebasket
     
    That's actually pretty common throughout the third world (not that I'm saying Greece is 3rd world)>
    , @Kratoklastes

    When I hitchhiked through France in the 90s, the hole-in-the-ground was quite common in out of the way places
     
    When I was put in a French concentration camp[1] in 2008, the "toilette à l'Arabe" was still a thing. There, and in several dunny blocks along the autoroute.

    I was in there because I refused to pay attention to their stupid rules - whereby Australians and New Zealanders can only stay in France for more than 3 months if Germany has invaded (again) and the French have capitulated (again)... whereas Krauts were free to live there for a decade if they felt like it.

    Rather unsporting, what?

    (I did ask the judge at my hearing if the government intended to dig up and deport "les squelettes des soldats ANZAC, abbatu en défendant la France quand elle a été en train d'être humiliée par les Allemands - deux fois dans un génération": she wasn't particularly amused, as it turned out. She would have preferred that I used "massacré" rather than "abattu" because the latter applies to livestock... I pointed out that I used the term advisedly)

    Anyhow - while in the camp at Lyon, they gassed everyone five thousand times, and made me fight a bear every day (and twice on weekends).

    Tell that to the kiddies nowadays, and they don't believe you.

    [1] French government propaganda calls them "centres de detention administrative", but it makes for a far more compelling - nay, harrowing - narrative to call them concentration camps.

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  102. George says:

    xenophobia? If he was xenophobic he would not have left the cruise ship he was on. Einstein’s problem was he stopped playing shuffleboard and walked around the ports the ship docked in. But a Xenophobe would have looked over the railing in disgust and went back to the buffet.

    As far as his actual descriptions go, he did not show much interest in historical context, but they were probably accurate. China, in particular, was really screwed up during this period.

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  103. George says:

    Gopniks – why do Slavs Squat?
    Slavs Squatting is the new trend, no more planking

    https://www.slavorum.org/gopniks-why-do-slavs-squat/

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  104. dearieme says:

    “a humanist icon such as Einstein”: Einstein was a nasty piece of work. He was the second best mathematical physicist in history. He was the most distinguished citizen the US has ever had. But the idea that he was nice fella is just stupid sentimentality.

    On the other hand, those who claim to suspect that he may have murdered his daughter appear to have no evidence at all for their suspicions. Maybe it amounts to little more than “I wouldn’t put it past him”.

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  105. dearieme says:
    @trelane
    I will never look at Einstein the same way. That dirty rotten no good racist. You know what you can do with your racist E=mc^2?

    I gather that he never did successfully deduce E=mc^2: his attempts all had mathematical flaws, apparently. Happily others were successful.

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  106. Anonymous[150] • Disclaimer says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    It is interesting that the story refers to this as "recycling."

    Ever since China announced last year that it no longer wanted to be the “world’s garbage dump,” recycling about half of the globe’s plastics and paper products...
     

    At least one waste disposal site in London is already seeing a buildup of plastic recyclables...
     

    Steve Frank, of Pioneer Recycling in Oregon, owns two plants that collect and sort 220,000 tons of recyclable materials... exported to China.

     


    China’s ban, Mr. Frank said, has caused “a major upset of the flow of global recyclables.”
     
    This calls two things into question:

    1) The recycling farce itself. Was all that plastic we were coerced into separating and putting into bins just being "recycled" to some country that dumped it into the ocean?

    2) The honesty of the recycling industry here and over there. Was it implied that the plastic would be recycled when it fact it was, wink wink, just thrown into the ocean? Was it just another money-making scam and lie?

    If it is just going to be dumped, then don't call it recycling.

    Also, maybe someone could do the math and determine how much of East Asia's plastic dumping is/was accounted for by what the West was sending them?

    Recycling has always been progressive public theater. Those colorful bags and bins set ostentatiously outside the progressive’s home are all about signalling virtue. Recycling wouldn’t be half as popular if it wasn’t so visible.

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  107. Anonymous[150] • Disclaimer says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    I have spent time in Paris, on two occasions, in the early 2000s and in this decade. I am familiar with the pissoirs, but I don't recall seeing or using one, and I certainly never saw any shitters that were concrete holes in the ground. Maybe those were somewhere else in France or a long time ago.

    My old friend's literal "shit hole" in China probably isn't there anymore either.

    One thing the Chinese do more than Europeans/Americans is squat. That doesn't make them lesser, it just means they don't use chairs as much as we do. East Asians and a lot of other peoples make do with less furniture than we have in a long time. That is probably changing too.

    I remember hippie literature in the 1970s, maybe in the Whole Earth Catalog or someplace like that, claiming that sitting/shitting on a toilet is worse than squatting for your body. It was typical hippy bullshit that going backwards was better and that our modern world is shit.

    The second part of your reply is appreciated also. It is indeed "sane" to see people who are different as different and to judge for yourself what you think of them. This never should have become a thoughtcrime.

    I remember hippie literature in the 1970s, maybe in the Whole Earth Catalog or someplace like that, claiming that sitting/shitting on a toilet is worse than squatting for your body. It was typical hippy bullshit that going backwards was better and that our modern world is shit.

    That is actually true. You can verify it for yourself next time you’re constipated. Adjust your posture to more of a squat and things will go notably smoother.

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    I stand (or squat) corrected.

    Those hippy publications were using this as an excuse for the primitive living conditions and equipment they were pushing. I believe Bernie Sanders must have read all the same stuff. Here is the hippy house he lived in after he moved to Vermont. It may have had a squat toilet:

    http://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1455563179104.jpg
    , @Daniel Chieh
    There are little squat steps now which allow both to co-exist in peaceful harmony, along with really weird ads.
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  108. Wait ’til they discover Robert Frost’s “The Importer”… ( I believe you’ve already plowed the ground of Theodore Geisel’s wartime anti-”Jap” cartoons)

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  109. Anonymous[579] • Disclaimer says:

    Here, Einstein perceives a foreign ‘race’ as a threat, which … is one of the characteristics of a racist ideology. Yet the remark that must strike the modern reader as most offensive is his feigning not to understand how Chinese men can find their women sufficiently attractive to have offspring with them.

    Lol, just shows what a little exposure (immigration/integration) will do for you. Yellow women are now the most desired among some of the most successful Ashkenazi men. And for white men in general.

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  110. Totally agree with contributor “Ed”.

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  111. We Westerners believe that the eyes are the windows of the soul. Clearly, the facial features especially the narrow eye slits of Asians are incompatible with that ideal of beauty. Asian women are now having plastic surgery to alter their eyes. Yes, I know lots of American GI’s shacked up with Asian women during the Vietnam and Korean wars and the Japanese occupation, but they did so largely out of necessity. [To be fair, most English girls weren't knockouts, either, but there were war brides brought back from Old Blighty, too.] Check out old video’s of the Bob Hope tours of Vietnam. He’d parade young starlets such as Joey Heatherton on stage with the line: “This is what you’re fighting for!” So while the GI’s partook of the hookers who promised “Me love you long time!” and “Sucky,Sucky!” most agreed with Brian Wilson’s lines: “I couldn’t wait to get back to the States, back to the cutest girls in the world.”

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  112. I saw Einstein eyeing up Theresa Russell in a movie. Can’t say I blame him.

    Russell’s eyes are set wide enough apart to give her a classic beauty look. Russell’s cheekbones and lips ain’t bad either. Russell can do a Central European better than any broad going.

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    Do you mean Jane?
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  113. Rosenkranz told the Guardian that although views like Einstein’s were prevalent at the time, they were not universal. “That’s usually the reaction I get – ‘we have to understand, he was of the zeitgeist, part of the time’ – but I think I tried here and there to give a broader context. There were other views out there, more tolerant views,” he said.

    When the diaries that Bronislaw Malinowski wrote during his fieldwork in New Guinea and the Trobriand Islands were posthumously published in 1967, it caused a scandal among anthropologists, who were shocked to learn that after years of hanging out with the natives, the founding father of modern fieldwork was still pretty racist. I suspect this is the case for most of the people who Rosenkranz has in mind when he insists that, at the time, there were “other views out there, more tolerant views”. Chances are you just haven’t read their diaries, yet.

    “They’re kind of in contrast to the public image of the great humanitarian icon. I think it’s quite a shock to read those and contrast them with his more public statements. They’re more off guard, he didn’t intend them for publication.”

    If Einstein did not intend them for publication, one may wonder why Rosenkranz felt he had the right to publish them.

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    Q: What's the difference between a tourist in Africa and a racist?

    A: Ten minutes.
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  114. What would he had written, had he been able to travel in Africa & had been shown, transported by a time machine, Steve’s “the world’s most important graph”: http://www.unz.com/isteve/the-worlds-most-important-graph/

    Yeah, I think I know the answer….

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  115. TheOldOne says:

    It’s backward, not backwards; backwards is like when you put your shirt on with the label in front.

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  116. midtown says:
    @Mr. Anon

    I will never look at Einstein the same way. That dirty rotten no good racist. You know what you can do with your racist E=mc^2?
     
    More like E=K^3!

    Nice one!

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  117. Dunnyveg says:

    This isn’t surprising. No doubt Einstein held the Hegelian view on race, which was standard for liberals at the time. Before liberals adopted Boasian views on race and culture, they held the Hegelian view that we weren’t all equal, but should be. And the best way to accomplish this was to have backwards groups exposed to liberal ways. Of course, considering the advent of Third World communism, which was explicitly anti-liberal and anti-Western, the Hegelian view was no more a success than the Boasian view.

    Those of us who hold pre-sixties values are very aware that because liberalism is a war against reality, it must strongly discourage people from reading or knowing what went on before the cultural revolution of the late sixties. The postmodern liberal conceit is that no intelligent life existed before they came along.

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  118. @fnn
    I'm waiting for John Derbyshire's comment
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    Derbyshire, China is not the West. The West is not black/Asian/Jewish/Muslim. We have our civilization. We don't need China's. However, China needs you and your Chinese family.
    , @Anon
    Why not link to UR?

    http://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/whats-wrong-with-china-a-study-of-unchanged-national-character/
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  119. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Old Left
    To my mind, these honest observations help rescue Einstein from the nauseating saintly aura in which his image has been bubble-wrapped by generations of self-conscious "humanist" fans.

    I would add that visceral responses to ugliness are not "feigning." Feigning is when liberals insist that manifestly misshapen, graceless grotesques are beautiful. It's the one thing about liberals that I regard as unforgivable.

    Feigning is when liberals insist that manifestly misshapen, graceless grotesques are beautiful. It’s the one thing about liberals that I regard as unforgivable.

    Liberals commit many unforgiveable sins. It is not limited to one thing unfortunately.

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  120. Unzerker says:
    @Anonymous
    We've been exporting our plastic waste, along with our factories and pollution, to China. That's why we've had less pollution while still maintaining consumption. It's basically 3 card monte - the pollution and waste gets moved around, but it's still there. Half of the world's exports of plastic and waste are sent to China:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/11/world/china-recyclables-ban.html

    Ever since China announced last year that it no longer wanted to be the “world’s garbage dump,” recycling about half of the globe’s plastics and paper products, Western nations have been puzzling over what to do when the ban went into effect, which it did on Jan. 1.

    The answer, to date, in Britain at least, is nothing. At least one waste disposal site in London is already seeing a buildup of plastic recyclables and has had to pay to have some of it removed.

    Similar backups have been reported in Canada, Ireland, Germany and several other European nations, while tons of rubbish is piling up in port cities like Hong Kong.

    Steve Frank, of Pioneer Recycling in Oregon, owns two plants that collect and sort 220,000 tons of recyclable materials each year. A majority of it was until recently exported to China.

    “My inventory is out of control,” he said.

    China’s ban, Mr. Frank said, has caused “a major upset of the flow of global recyclables.” Now, he said, he is hoping to export waste to countries like Indonesia, India, Vietnam, Malaysia — “anywhere we can” — but “they can’t make up the difference.”
     

    Oh what on earth should we do now with our combustible products made from oil?

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    Oh what on earth should we do now with our combustible products made from oil?
     
    Yeah, what to do? what to do? Well said.

    Beyond just tossing them in the boiler, we ought to already be moving onto a methanol economy. Destructive distillation of hydrocarbons isn't exactly "new technology". We should be converting plastic waste, other organic waste, yard waste, agricultural waste, plus growing stuff like switch grass directly for this. And in while ramping up that, directly using all this natural gas as feedstock, and coal--less efficiently--as necessary. No reason for us to need to import even a barrel of oil now.
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  121. @Old Palo Altan
    As any traveller to France can tell you, such toilets were common there until quite recently, and perhaps still are. Take some getting used to.

    As for the "racism": as I have had occasion to point out more than once here, such sane attitudes to the "other" were universal. Nothing is more amusing than to see a modern liberal blanche when discovering the "racism" of the great men of the past - all of them. One particularly striking example is Gottlob Frege.
    It is the modern view, flying as it does in the face of all experience, which is madness incarnate.

    I myself was somewhat startled by George Orwell’s antisemitism when reading Down and Out in Paris and London.

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  122. @Anon
    The thing that bugs me most about is travel diary is that Einstein had good handwriting. I'm convinced you can't be a genius unless your handwriting is sloppy.

    By the standards of Einstein’s time, or of my childhood, Einstein’s handwriting was neat and legible, but not particularly praiseworthy.

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    Einstein’s handwriting is now a font. Very smooth and fluid.
    https://images.fastcompany.net/image/upload/w_596,c_limit,q_auto:best,f_auto,fl_lossy/fc/3045994-inline-i-1-albert-einsteins-handwriting-is-now-a-font.jpg

    For fans of psychedelic rock posters, there’s the Rick Griffin

    http://www.fontsplace.com/images/chars/rick_griffin_regular_characters_719851.gif

    and the Victor Moscoso.

    http://www.identifont.com/samples2/k-type/VictorMoscoso.gif

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  123. AndrewR says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    Very well. Tabula rasa was the wrong term to apply to you. I am thereby embarrassed. You are a master debater.

    If you are not a blank slater, then you must be a race relativist. If you were not, you would not try to shame a white man when he proudly refers to the accomplishments of his race, and you would not use a dubious list of damages as a trumped up argument against his pride and the reasonableness of it.

    Pride is needed now.

    You have attempted to shame a white man for expressing this pride by accusing him of using it for his own pleasure, as if taking pleasure in the good qualities one's racial family is a bad thing. You are not making any sense unless your goal is to diminish that family or the man, or to make his race appear no better than any other. You are making a race relativist argument.

    We know you’re a strong white man who don’t need no woman, but just tone it down a bit…

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    You do have a point. Point taken.
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  124. anon[267] • Disclaimer says:

    The staggering level of ignorance from that over-priveleged stalepalemale Einstein should put his whole work in doubt. The Theory of Relativity is prolly nonsense, & has survived merely BC of the lack of Diversity in European Circle Jerkking AKA physics.

    We should get some clever POC to check the maths. I suggest the actresses who acted in da Hollywood movie DAT show da White man only went moon cuzza da strong sistahs who dey stole dey rockets fro. Einstein di’nt suffah cuzza he be hella privlig by da Man & da PAtriackay. Sir Charles Pipkinzes hoes be suffrin a lot by da trunkin, noamsayin! Give dem heez bookz & dey find alla sowta errors with da maf dat show relativitee jus bee white privlaty. noamsayin honkey???

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    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    To be fair, he went to the end of his life trying to prove and hoping that quantum mechanics would be wrong. The notion that reality is based on some sort of indeterminable randomness is pretty annoying. In fact, he basically stated as such:

    Einstein further refined his position, making it completely clear that what really disturbed him about the quantum theory was the problem of the total renunciation of all minimal standards of realism, even at the microscopic level, that the acceptance of the completeness of the theory implied.

    , @Anonymous
    Critics of Einstein's work tend to be conservative and right-wing whites:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bACz77taipk
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  125. Doug says:

    Have you ever heard of Darwin, Einstein, Watson? Morons!

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  126. MarcB. says:

    Asia needs the Western World to exist if for no other reason than to provide diversion from the sameness of their own cultures.

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    This guy hasn't heard North Chinese talking about Guangdong dogs, Hong Kong people, or Uighurs.
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  127. @PiltdownMan
    By the standards of Einstein's time, or of my childhood, Einstein's handwriting was neat and legible, but not particularly praiseworthy.

    Einstein’s handwriting is now a font. Very smooth and fluid.
    For fans of psychedelic rock posters, there’s the Rick Griffin

    and the Victor Moscoso.

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  128. @Mr. Anon
    Welcome to the party, Al!

    LOL

    I hope I’m not the only one who got this, but just in case:

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  129. @Anonymous
    We've been exporting our plastic waste, along with our factories and pollution, to China. That's why we've had less pollution while still maintaining consumption. It's basically 3 card monte - the pollution and waste gets moved around, but it's still there. Half of the world's exports of plastic and waste are sent to China:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/11/world/china-recyclables-ban.html

    Ever since China announced last year that it no longer wanted to be the “world’s garbage dump,” recycling about half of the globe’s plastics and paper products, Western nations have been puzzling over what to do when the ban went into effect, which it did on Jan. 1.

    The answer, to date, in Britain at least, is nothing. At least one waste disposal site in London is already seeing a buildup of plastic recyclables and has had to pay to have some of it removed.

    Similar backups have been reported in Canada, Ireland, Germany and several other European nations, while tons of rubbish is piling up in port cities like Hong Kong.

    Steve Frank, of Pioneer Recycling in Oregon, owns two plants that collect and sort 220,000 tons of recyclable materials each year. A majority of it was until recently exported to China.

    “My inventory is out of control,” he said.

    China’s ban, Mr. Frank said, has caused “a major upset of the flow of global recyclables.” Now, he said, he is hoping to export waste to countries like Indonesia, India, Vietnam, Malaysia — “anywhere we can” — but “they can’t make up the difference.”
     

    Yep, all those treehuggers on the West coast and in the big cities want to believe so badly that those big bins (with the little ones for the rest of the trash) are full of stuff that will really be recycled. If it makes them feel better, that’s what matters – most of them don’t do any blue-water sailing.

    Towards Sustainable Stupidity

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  130. Don’t they have Einstein’s brain in a jar somewhere?
    Perhaps they could stick a couple of electrodes in there and dial up the current to punish poor Albert for his impure thoughts. After all, it’s too late for him to be cast into the void like James Watson was.

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    Wouldn't it be fun if the jar was right next to the one with Hitler's 3-inch marvel?
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  131. I did not find it offensive.

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  132. I’m imagining Al sticking out his tongue after each of his comments.

    Does this mean people are going to stop making the “genii are liberal” argument about him?

    “I don’t know how world war III will be fought, but I know it will be fought against the Chinese” -Albert Einstein

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  133. A bundle of belongings isn’t the only thing a refugee brings to his new country. Einstein was a refugee” – could have written xenophobic comments about the peoples he encountered.

    If anyone knows about the nobel gases, you know a physicist does. That’s the most egregious thing about the article. I bet the writer couldn’t even find Xenon on the periodic table. I personally have no fear of the Noble Gases.

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  134. @J.Ross
    Let's remember Mencken, who was posthumously unpersonned when it was learned that he made ugly observations about Jews in his private diary, and who in public attempted to pressure FDR to allow European Jewish refugees into the country.

    Mencken also was one of Leo Frank’s supporters. Bit like St. Maximilien Kolbe, who thought too many Jews tended to be Commies, but hid thousands of them in his friary even after the first time the Nazis arrested him.

    Give me a bigot who tries to do what is right and just over Woke SJWs who sic their posses on anyone who doesn’t agree with them.

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    Give me a bigot who tries to do what is right and just over Woke SJWs who sic their posses on anyone who doesn’t agree with them.
     
    Even more, those Woke SJWs measure their own and each others' virtue by what they DON'T do.

    Didn't buy Reviled Consumer Item X because we told you it's evil?

    You're an activist!

    Get your friends to march in step?

    You're an ORGANIZER!

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  135. fnn says:
    @Lot
    "Mencken ... who was posthumously unpersonned"

    Story never happened.

    Not entirely false. Or maybe was it just a coincidence that a guy named Friedheim (publisher of something called Travel Agent magazine) in 1990 paid the National Press Club $1 million dollars to change the name of its HL Mencken Room to the Friedheim Room:

    https://www.press.org/news-multimedia/news/npc-history-trumps-first-appearance-club

    There was also a prestigious award for journalists named after Mencken that disappeared without notice at some point in the 1990s as far as I can tell from a Google check.

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  136. fnn says:
    @CE
    The time he visited China was about the nadir of Chinese civilization. Remember if you read Europeans' views of America, many at different times had quite low opinions of the Americans. From about 1840 to 1950, China went through major change from basically a mideval world into a modern world with basically everystep gone wrong. And then, after 1949, another kind of terror went on for a few more decades. A somewhat normal kind of development only started in the 1980s. And still there was 1989.

    I doubt many Chinese would feel angry about Einstein's private diary. Many would only be reminded about their own country's painful experience. "They" came for Einstein, who are they? Your own western liberals.

    Remember if you read Europeans’ views of America, many at different times had quite low opinions of the Americans.

    Holders of negative opinions of America have always been common among European elites and self-styled dissidents. Before 1945 they were mainly aristocratic right-wing elites (and fascists and nazis when they were around). After 1945 it was mainly Marxists. In the current postmodern and neoliberal era the anti-Americans are Euro SWPLs, SJWs, Antifa and other prisoners of American pop culture. There were a few eccentric right-wing anti-Americans in the post-WW2 era such as Julius Evola. Some Italian neo-fascist once said of Evola, “He’s our Marcuse, only better.”

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  137. TheJester says:
    @Rosie

    That breeds patriotism – and wars.
     
    Notice the implied White supremacy here. It is the White man's burden to lead humanity into a post-racial utopia. He takes other groups' ethnocentric feelings as normal.

    May the “best men” … be the first to invent industrialization, conquer pandemic diseases, fly like a bird, go to the moon, and create the economic and social conditions in which their women could afford to complain about their abject idleness … I mean win.

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  138. fitzGetty says:

    A museum in New England puts wall labels next to portraits of white men who ‘’profited’’ from the slave trade.
    ‘’’’’’’’’’’’’ The Worcester Art Museum has appended additional labels to portraits in their early American portrait gallery to identify the individuals who benefited from slavery and how. Elizabeth Athens, a former curator of American art at the Worcester Art Museum, who led the effort, which began last fall, said the previous wall labels relayed only one side of their subject’s history and that of the region. “We tend to think of New England and Massachusetts in particular as an abolitionist state, which it was, of course, but there’s this kind of flattening of the discussion of slavery and its history in the states,” Athens told New England Public Radio. Athens said she wanted to represent in some way that the predominantly white and male subjects in the gallery are only part of that era’s history and provide some space for people of color. ‘’’’’’’’
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  139. As any traveller to France can tell you, such toilets were common there until quite recently, and perhaps still are. Take some getting used to.

    I can attest to that. When I was stationed in Germany 72-75 I made a tour of eastern France and had occasion to use a public toilet. It was merely a hole in the floor. But it did have a handle to prevent one from falling in.

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  140. @AndrewR
    Good God. What are you, 85 years old?

    What are you, 85 years old?

    You might try reading the post for content pajama boy – she did not write that she left liberalism in the 1950s.

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  141. @CE
    The time he visited China was about the nadir of Chinese civilization. Remember if you read Europeans' views of America, many at different times had quite low opinions of the Americans. From about 1840 to 1950, China went through major change from basically a mideval world into a modern world with basically everystep gone wrong. And then, after 1949, another kind of terror went on for a few more decades. A somewhat normal kind of development only started in the 1980s. And still there was 1989.

    I doubt many Chinese would feel angry about Einstein's private diary. Many would only be reminded about their own country's painful experience. "They" came for Einstein, who are they? Your own western liberals.

    China is a still a mess. I have a sister who’s traveled to China, Singapore and Hong Kong for business. She hates these countries. She said the Chinese in all 3 countries are ugly, dirty, rude, and dumb. As long as the Chinese stay in their countries, they can do whatever they want.

    My sister has traveled to Argentina for business. She loves Argentina. It’s European and she said the people are beautiful. She hopes she will never have to go back to the East and wants to be sent to Argentina as much as possible.

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  142. @Rosie
    Do people never tire of this crap?

    A man can't even record opinions about other groups on his diary without being made an example of?

    Sorry for the very late reply, Rosie. I did notice your reference to me in the older thread so, I just will respond to your comment here and now.

    I believe you still proved mine and the guy you were responding to’s comments indirectly in your discussion on the house remodeling. As I’ve noted, lots of single guys could live with the house as-is, as long as everything is functional (electrical, plumbing, HVAC, roofing), without the constant keeping up on the new flooring, countertops, appliances, etc. Men would most times rather work on something new, a new business, say, or better yet, new process or product than just keep everything up all the time. I am one.

    The way global finance is these days, inflation continuously eats away savings in most countries’ currencies, so the house is pretty much the only safe investment most families have, though one’s home didn’t used to be thought of as such. I believe that’s why lots of home improvement goes on also. It’s capital investment … until it isn’t again.

    About your pictures, I have seen one of those “timy houses” near where I live. Really, I’d rather live in a trailer.

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  143. @anon
    The staggering level of ignorance from that over-priveleged stalepalemale Einstein should put his whole work in doubt. The Theory of Relativity is prolly nonsense, & has survived merely BC of the lack of Diversity in European Circle Jerkking AKA physics.

    We should get some clever POC to check the maths. I suggest the actresses who acted in da Hollywood movie DAT show da White man only went moon cuzza da strong sistahs who dey stole dey rockets fro. Einstein di'nt suffah cuzza he be hella privlig by da Man & da PAtriackay. Sir Charles Pipkinzes hoes be suffrin a lot by da trunkin, noamsayin! Give dem heez bookz & dey find alla sowta errors with da maf dat show relativitee jus bee white privlaty. noamsayin honkey???

    To be fair, he went to the end of his life trying to prove and hoping that quantum mechanics would be wrong. The notion that reality is based on some sort of indeterminable randomness is pretty annoying. In fact, he basically stated as such:

    Einstein further refined his position, making it completely clear that what really disturbed him about the quantum theory was the problem of the total renunciation of all minimal standards of realism, even at the microscopic level, that the acceptance of the completeness of the theory implied.

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    James Clerk Maxwell didn't believe in evolution, that doesn't mean his laws of electromagnetism are wrong.
    , @Roger
    In this context, "realism" has a funny meaning. Realism is the belief that quantum mechanics should model aspects of atoms and particles that are not observable, so that the theory can tell us what is really going on in the atom.

    The trouble is that the behavior of atoms and particles are not like anything in our ordinary experience, so attempts for a more intuitive realistic understanding of the sort that Einstein wanted have failed.
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  144. @Anonymous

    I remember hippie literature in the 1970s, maybe in the Whole Earth Catalog or someplace like that, claiming that sitting/shitting on a toilet is worse than squatting for your body. It was typical hippy bullshit that going backwards was better and that our modern world is shit.
     
    That is actually true. You can verify it for yourself next time you're constipated. Adjust your posture to more of a squat and things will go notably smoother.

    I stand (or squat) corrected.

    Those hippy publications were using this as an excuse for the primitive living conditions and equipment they were pushing. I believe Bernie Sanders must have read all the same stuff. Here is the hippy house he lived in after he moved to Vermont. It may have had a squat toilet:

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  145. @Anonymous

    I remember hippie literature in the 1970s, maybe in the Whole Earth Catalog or someplace like that, claiming that sitting/shitting on a toilet is worse than squatting for your body. It was typical hippy bullshit that going backwards was better and that our modern world is shit.
     
    That is actually true. You can verify it for yourself next time you're constipated. Adjust your posture to more of a squat and things will go notably smoother.

    There are little squat steps now which allow both to co-exist in peaceful harmony, along with really weird ads.

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  146. Anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    I have spent time in Paris, on two occasions, in the early 2000s and in this decade. I am familiar with the pissoirs, but I don't recall seeing or using one, and I certainly never saw any shitters that were concrete holes in the ground. Maybe those were somewhere else in France or a long time ago.

    My old friend's literal "shit hole" in China probably isn't there anymore either.

    One thing the Chinese do more than Europeans/Americans is squat. That doesn't make them lesser, it just means they don't use chairs as much as we do. East Asians and a lot of other peoples make do with less furniture than we have in a long time. That is probably changing too.

    I remember hippie literature in the 1970s, maybe in the Whole Earth Catalog or someplace like that, claiming that sitting/shitting on a toilet is worse than squatting for your body. It was typical hippy bullshit that going backwards was better and that our modern world is shit.

    The second part of your reply is appreciated also. It is indeed "sane" to see people who are different as different and to judge for yourself what you think of them. This never should have become a thoughtcrime.

    Incidentally, in East Asia, the Chinese are known for sitting in chairs and for their traditional wooden chairs, while the Japanese sat on mats on the floor and never built elaborate wooden chairs.

    Sitting on the toilet is believed to cause hemorrhoids and other issues like constipation. This is why the Squatty Potty has become popular:

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    Even Bruce Lee needed a squatty potty.
    https://youtu.be/WDqKastuVtY
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  147. anonymous[965] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Sort of like Albert Schweitzer, Bertrand Russell and Gandhi.

    yeah i can’t wait ’til they get a hold of what schweitzer said about the schwartzas!

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  148. Olorin says:
    @Rosamond Vincy
    Mencken also was one of Leo Frank's supporters. Bit like St. Maximilien Kolbe, who thought too many Jews tended to be Commies, but hid thousands of them in his friary even after the first time the Nazis arrested him.

    Give me a bigot who tries to do what is right and just over Woke SJWs who sic their posses on anyone who doesn't agree with them.

    Give me a bigot who tries to do what is right and just over Woke SJWs who sic their posses on anyone who doesn’t agree with them.

    Even more, those Woke SJWs measure their own and each others’ virtue by what they DON’T do.

    Didn’t buy Reviled Consumer Item X because we told you it’s evil?

    You’re an activist!

    Get your friends to march in step?

    You’re an ORGANIZER!

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  149. @AndrewR
    We know you're a strong white man who don't need no woman, but just tone it down a bit...

    You do have a point. Point taken.

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  150. Anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    The staggering level of ignorance from that over-priveleged stalepalemale Einstein should put his whole work in doubt. The Theory of Relativity is prolly nonsense, & has survived merely BC of the lack of Diversity in European Circle Jerkking AKA physics.

    We should get some clever POC to check the maths. I suggest the actresses who acted in da Hollywood movie DAT show da White man only went moon cuzza da strong sistahs who dey stole dey rockets fro. Einstein di'nt suffah cuzza he be hella privlig by da Man & da PAtriackay. Sir Charles Pipkinzes hoes be suffrin a lot by da trunkin, noamsayin! Give dem heez bookz & dey find alla sowta errors with da maf dat show relativitee jus bee white privlaty. noamsayin honkey???

    Critics of Einstein’s work tend to be conservative and right-wing whites:

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    Roger Schlafly, son of the late Phyllis Schlafly, is a conservative critic of Einstein's physics:

    http://blog.darkbuzz.com/p/how-einstein-ruined-physics.html
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  151. Anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Critics of Einstein's work tend to be conservative and right-wing whites:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bACz77taipk

    Roger Schlafly, son of the late Phyllis Schlafly, is a conservative critic of Einstein’s physics:

    http://blog.darkbuzz.com/p/how-einstein-ruined-physics.html

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    That was the dumbest thing I've ever read.
    , @J.Ross
    Einstein's physics are safe, but it is right to disapprove of that Public Relations confection, the scripted quipster, Einstein the wild-haired universal genius, who lends authority to progressive quackery because of his success in an unrelated field. That was completely unscientific, ruthlessly cynical, and foundational to our modern culture.
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  152. Svigor says:
    @attilathehen
    LOL!!! However, if Einstein were alive today, he'd be on the Chinese side. Jews marry Asians/blacks now. It's kosher. He would have Marc Zuckerberg as an example.

    Jews don’t marry Blacks; quite the opposite, a (very) few high-profile exceptions aside.

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    They do marry blacks in high numbers.

    Idina Menzel (Jewish) black ex husband Taye Diggs; Andrea Mitchell (J) first husband black Gil Jackson now married Alan Greenspan;
    Rod Carew black athlete, first wife Jewish Michelle Levy; Lena Horne - J husband Lennie Hayton; Bliss Broyard black J husband Nico Israel;
    Martine/Martin Rothblatt (J) black wife Bina Aspen; magician David Blaine offspring of black Puerto Rican father/Ashkenazi mother;
    Geraldo Rivera offspring of black Puerto Rican father/Ashkenazi mother; Rita Moreno black Puerto Rican J husband Leonard Gordon;
    Sidney Lumet (J) married Lena Horne black daugher Gail; Jenny Lumet black Jewish daughter Sidney Lumet married Alex Weinstein;
    Anna Stubblefield (J) professor with black ex husband; Allen Shawn (J) black exwife Jamaica Kincaid; Rebecca Hall black actress married Jewish
    Morgan Spector; Werner Klemperer (J) black wife; Harry Belfaonte Jewish wife; Julian Bond Jewish wife Pamela Horowitz; Kamala Harris black/Asian - Jewish husband Douglas Emhoff;
    Diana Ross black first husband Robert Silberstein; Ronnie Spector black singer married Jewish Jonathan Greenfield; Mirelle Fanon black Jewish husband Bernard Mendes; (((Chloe Green))) black husband Jeremy Meeks;
    Rula Jebreal black Muslim Jewish husband Arthur G. Altshul Jr.; Michelle Malkin, Amy Chua Asians with Jewish husbands; George Soros, Woody Allen, Mark Zuckerberg,
    Les Moonves, Jeff Greene, Oliver Stone, all Jews with Asian wives. These are famous people, the tip of the iceberg. Where I live many Jews are married to blacks and Asians
    and they are not famous.
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  153. @Anon
    But wait! I thought that travel was "fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness" -Twain. Guess Mark got that one wrong!

    Btw, how did Einstein's father manage to impregnate his mother? (But to be fair, old photos are often unflattering)

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Pauline_Koch.jpg/220px-Pauline_Koch.jpg

    Actually, Twain was disgusted by the Middle East. He was even more disgusted by the forced ecstasies of the Christians on the same pilgrimage.

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    Offhand, I can't think of anything that Twain didn't hate if he got to know it, although he saved his invective most vividly for the powers of the time. I think that he was described as "equal parts misanthrope and idealist."

    I identify with him often.
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  154. @Macumazahn
    Don't they have Einstein's brain in a jar somewhere?
    Perhaps they could stick a couple of electrodes in there and dial up the current to punish poor Albert for his impure thoughts. After all, it's too late for him to be cast into the void like James Watson was.

    Wouldn’t it be fun if the jar was right next to the one with Hitler’s 3-inch marvel?

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  155. @Buzz Mohawk
    I have spent time in Paris, on two occasions, in the early 2000s and in this decade. I am familiar with the pissoirs, but I don't recall seeing or using one, and I certainly never saw any shitters that were concrete holes in the ground. Maybe those were somewhere else in France or a long time ago.

    My old friend's literal "shit hole" in China probably isn't there anymore either.

    One thing the Chinese do more than Europeans/Americans is squat. That doesn't make them lesser, it just means they don't use chairs as much as we do. East Asians and a lot of other peoples make do with less furniture than we have in a long time. That is probably changing too.

    I remember hippie literature in the 1970s, maybe in the Whole Earth Catalog or someplace like that, claiming that sitting/shitting on a toilet is worse than squatting for your body. It was typical hippy bullshit that going backwards was better and that our modern world is shit.

    The second part of your reply is appreciated also. It is indeed "sane" to see people who are different as different and to judge for yourself what you think of them. This never should have become a thoughtcrime.

    I remember hippie literature in the 1970s, maybe in the Whole Earth Catalog or someplace like that, claiming that sitting/shitting on a toilet is worse than squatting for your body.

    You’ve never heard of the Squatty Potty?

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  156. Olorin says:

    As usual, feminists are too stupid to pick the most interesting threads out of the tapestry so resort to catfighting.

    “It would be a pity if these Chinese supplant all other races. For the likes of us the mere thought is unspeakably dreary.” …

    He was a communist and “one worlder.”

    https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism

    Perhaps he thought (((Bolshevist))) Communism was OK, but the Chinese kind not so much?

    For the likes of us

    >us

    Mhm.

    People can and often do pull all sorts of quotes out of his 1949 essay above. But what it says to me, overall, is that, like, oh, say, Hitler, he recognized the fundamentally biological nature of human individuals…but didn’t want to recognize that there is not one “biological nature” among all humans any more than there can be “one world.”

    That deft homogenization of humanity is the root of commune-ism. The Chinese recognize this and have acted on it for thousands of years–not always as communists. Their very DNA now reflects that hive quality–its narcissism, its lack of self reflection, its regimentation.

    For a supposed math genius Al was pretty stupid about basic statistics and the simple arithmetic of distributions.

    I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals. In such an economy, the means of production are owned by society itself and are utilized in a planned fashion. A planned economy, which adjusts production to the needs of the community, would distribute the work to be done among all those able to work and would guarantee a livelihood to every man, woman, and child. The education of the individual, in addition to promoting his own innate abilities, would attempt to develop in him a sense of responsibility for his fellow men in place of the glorification of power and success in our present society.

    Sounds like the new equity agenda at The Evergreen State College, right down to the ache-producing use of the fallacy of misplaced concreteness.

    My favorite part is where he blames “private capitalists” for what is wrong with “press, radio, education.”

    From where I sit, Einstein’s biggest contribution is a warning about how stupid about humans and history a mathbot can be, and thus a cautionary case in the early days of A.I. dominion.

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  157. @Rosamond Vincy
    Actually, Twain was disgusted by the Middle East. He was even more disgusted by the forced ecstasies of the Christians on the same pilgrimage.

    Offhand, I can’t think of anything that Twain didn’t hate if he got to know it, although he saved his invective most vividly for the powers of the time. I think that he was described as “equal parts misanthrope and idealist.”

    I identify with him often.

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  158. I’ve also found Asian women to be unattractive, so it’s good to be in the same corner as Einstein. Any white man who is with an Asian woman is beta at best.

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  159. Brutusale says:
    @J.Ross
    Let's remember Mencken, who was posthumously unpersonned when it was learned that he made ugly observations about Jews in his private diary, and who in public attempted to pressure FDR to allow European Jewish refugees into the country.

    Unpersoned by whom? I think I read his “good and hard” line quoted somewhere every single day.

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    It was a brief moral panic in the nineties, no threat to his memory, but still embarassing to philosophical and not merely geographical Americans. It was part of the reason Jonathan Rausch wrote his brilliant, brief and necessary defense of speech-freedom, Kindly Inquisitors. Rausch is now working on a reboot of labor rights in the IT age.
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  160. Doug says:
    @Anonymous
    Roger Schlafly, son of the late Phyllis Schlafly, is a conservative critic of Einstein's physics:

    http://blog.darkbuzz.com/p/how-einstein-ruined-physics.html

    That was the dumbest thing I’ve ever read.

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    I have put up with my quota of stupidity this week already, so I will pass. But why do the cranks always try to disprove GR? Never QM or anything else?
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  161. @Unzerker
    Oh what on earth should we do now with our combustible products made from oil?

    Oh what on earth should we do now with our combustible products made from oil?

    Yeah, what to do? what to do? Well said.

    Beyond just tossing them in the boiler, we ought to already be moving onto a methanol economy. Destructive distillation of hydrocarbons isn’t exactly “new technology”. We should be converting plastic waste, other organic waste, yard waste, agricultural waste, plus growing stuff like switch grass directly for this. And in while ramping up that, directly using all this natural gas as feedstock, and coal–less efficiently–as necessary. No reason for us to need to import even a barrel of oil now.

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  162. 3g4me says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    As I said on another thread in response to a member of the Tabula Rasa Human Church:

    If you want to see real pollution, go to China, which has copied our manufacturing with our money but without our pollution control.
     
    For another example of difference:

    A professor I know traveled there and told me about using public toilets that consisted of a room with concrete platforms out in the open. Each platform had a hole you squatted over in front of everybody. His travel buddy looked at him squatting and shitting and said, "I wish I had a camera right now so I could show the picture to your students."

    I'm sure that's changed now. They are going to absorb us, you know, using our cash.

    (For those who see my cracks at China as foolish: That nation is the long-term enemy of our people, and I don't care what you think.)

    @51 Buzz Mohawk -

    For your fount of White working-man wisdom, your race-realism, your American patriotism, and your overall comment quality (not to mention your father’s contribution to modern plumbing) I am your #1 fan!

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  163. 3g4me says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    I have spent time in Paris, on two occasions, in the early 2000s and in this decade. I am familiar with the pissoirs, but I don't recall seeing or using one, and I certainly never saw any shitters that were concrete holes in the ground. Maybe those were somewhere else in France or a long time ago.

    My old friend's literal "shit hole" in China probably isn't there anymore either.

    One thing the Chinese do more than Europeans/Americans is squat. That doesn't make them lesser, it just means they don't use chairs as much as we do. East Asians and a lot of other peoples make do with less furniture than we have in a long time. That is probably changing too.

    I remember hippie literature in the 1970s, maybe in the Whole Earth Catalog or someplace like that, claiming that sitting/shitting on a toilet is worse than squatting for your body. It was typical hippy bullshit that going backwards was better and that our modern world is shit.

    The second part of your reply is appreciated also. It is indeed "sane" to see people who are different as different and to judge for yourself what you think of them. This never should have become a thoughtcrime.

    @96 Buzz Mohawk: “One thing the Chinese do more than Europeans/Americans is squat. That doesn’t make them lesser, it just means they don’t use chairs as much as we do.”

    One of my husband’s cousins remembered that when “Uncle Bob” (my late father-in-law) returned from his tour of duty in Vietnam in 1965, he “squatted a lot.” Since he was over 6 feet tall and, at that time, thin to the point of being gaunt, it must have been a strange sight to all his American nieces and nephews.

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  164. @Svigor
    Jews don't marry Blacks; quite the opposite, a (very) few high-profile exceptions aside.

    They do marry blacks in high numbers.

    Idina Menzel (Jewish) black ex husband Taye Diggs; Andrea Mitchell (J) first husband black Gil Jackson now married Alan Greenspan;
    Rod Carew black athlete, first wife Jewish Michelle Levy; Lena Horne – J husband Lennie Hayton; Bliss Broyard black J husband Nico Israel;
    Martine/Martin Rothblatt (J) black wife Bina Aspen; magician David Blaine offspring of black Puerto Rican father/Ashkenazi mother;
    Geraldo Rivera offspring of black Puerto Rican father/Ashkenazi mother; Rita Moreno black Puerto Rican J husband Leonard Gordon;
    Sidney Lumet (J) married Lena Horne black daugher Gail; Jenny Lumet black Jewish daughter Sidney Lumet married Alex Weinstein;
    Anna Stubblefield (J) professor with black ex husband; Allen Shawn (J) black exwife Jamaica Kincaid; Rebecca Hall black actress married Jewish
    Morgan Spector; Werner Klemperer (J) black wife; Harry Belfaonte Jewish wife; Julian Bond Jewish wife Pamela Horowitz; Kamala Harris black/Asian – Jewish husband Douglas Emhoff;
    Diana Ross black first husband Robert Silberstein; Ronnie Spector black singer married Jewish Jonathan Greenfield; Mirelle Fanon black Jewish husband Bernard Mendes; (((Chloe Green))) black husband Jeremy Meeks;
    Rula Jebreal black Muslim Jewish husband Arthur G. Altshul Jr.; Michelle Malkin, Amy Chua Asians with Jewish husbands; George Soros, Woody Allen, Mark Zuckerberg,
    Les Moonves, Jeff Greene, Oliver Stone, all Jews with Asian wives. These are famous people, the tip of the iceberg. Where I live many Jews are married to blacks and Asians
    and they are not famous.

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  165. TTSSYF says:
    @Lot
    "Mencken ... who was posthumously unpersonned"

    Story never happened.

    Who’s ever heard of him today?

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  166. TTSSYF says:
    @Charles Pewitt
    I saw Einstein eyeing up Theresa Russell in a movie. Can't say I blame him.

    Russell's eyes are set wide enough apart to give her a classic beauty look. Russell's cheekbones and lips ain't bad either. Russell can do a Central European better than any broad going.

    Do you mean Jane?

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  167. As one would expect, Einstein’s observations are all perspicacious and accurate, evincing concise insights which cut to the essential character of each people he describes. All spit on, and therefore impermissible noticing….

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  168. J.Ross says: • Website
    @MarcB.
    Asia needs the Western World to exist if for no other reason than to provide diversion from the sameness of their own cultures.

    This guy hasn’t heard North Chinese talking about Guangdong dogs, Hong Kong people, or Uighurs.

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  169. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Brutusale
    Unpersoned by whom? I think I read his "good and hard" line quoted somewhere every single day.

    It was a brief moral panic in the nineties, no threat to his memory, but still embarassing to philosophical and not merely geographical Americans. It was part of the reason Jonathan Rausch wrote his brilliant, brief and necessary defense of speech-freedom, Kindly Inquisitors. Rausch is now working on a reboot of labor rights in the IT age.

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  170. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Anonymous
    Roger Schlafly, son of the late Phyllis Schlafly, is a conservative critic of Einstein's physics:

    http://blog.darkbuzz.com/p/how-einstein-ruined-physics.html

    Einstein’s physics are safe, but it is right to disapprove of that Public Relations confection, the scripted quipster, Einstein the wild-haired universal genius, who lends authority to progressive quackery because of his success in an unrelated field. That was completely unscientific, ruthlessly cynical, and foundational to our modern culture.

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  171. Yee says:

    Well, at that time, plenty of Chinese wrote even worse words about China and Chinese… Can’t blame them or Einstein. The ruling class, elites, intellectuals, the whole lot should have all been shot for running the country to a hellhole.

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  172. jamie b. says:
    @TelfoedJohn
    When I hitchhiked through France in the 90s, the hole-in-the-ground was quite common in out of the way places. I think they’ve cleaned up a bit since then. However, recent immigration must bring a whole new standard of hygiene.

    Recently I went through Basque France and Basque Spain. The French side was immaculate, but it immediately deteriorated in the Spanish side. Strange considering they’re supposed to be the same people. I bet the French Basques are less keen on having a unified homeland.

    The Greeks have this awful system in many of their hotels, where you’re supposed to wipe, and then put your toilet paper in the wastebasket - so the plumbing doesn’t get blocked. The Roman love of plumbing never reached Greece.

    you’re supposed to wipe, and then put your toilet paper in the wastebasket

    That’s actually pretty common throughout the third world (not that I’m saying Greece is 3rd world)>

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  173. @Anonymous Bosch

    Rosenkranz told the Guardian that although views like Einstein’s were prevalent at the time, they were not universal. “That’s usually the reaction I get – ‘we have to understand, he was of the zeitgeist, part of the time’ – but I think I tried here and there to give a broader context. There were other views out there, more tolerant views,” he said.
     
    When the diaries that Bronislaw Malinowski wrote during his fieldwork in New Guinea and the Trobriand Islands were posthumously published in 1967, it caused a scandal among anthropologists, who were shocked to learn that after years of hanging out with the natives, the founding father of modern fieldwork was still pretty racist. I suspect this is the case for most of the people who Rosenkranz has in mind when he insists that, at the time, there were "other views out there, more tolerant views". Chances are you just haven't read their diaries, yet.

    “They’re kind of in contrast to the public image of the great humanitarian icon. I think it’s quite a shock to read those and contrast them with his more public statements. They’re more off guard, he didn’t intend them for publication.”
     
    If Einstein did not intend them for publication, one may wonder why Rosenkranz felt he had the right to publish them.

    Q: What’s the difference between a tourist in Africa and a racist?

    A: Ten minutes.

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    My ancestors headed down there in the late 1600s. I suspect it took them less than 10 minutes to develop some pretty solid prejudices;-)
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  174. Anon[211] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bliss

    If they find evidence that an historical figure was one-part black, then it means blacks are just as responsible for our civilization as whites......Well if Einstein expressed such views, and Watson expressed such views
     
    Well, guess what? Both Einstein and Watson were part black:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1937345/posts

    JAMES WATSON, the DNA pioneer who claimed Africans are less intelligent than whites, has been found to have 16 times more genes of black origin than the average white European. An analysis of his genome shows that 16% of his genes are likely to have come from a black ancestor of African descent. By contrast, most people of European descent would have no more than 1%.

    The study was made possible when he allowed his genome - the map of all his genes - to be published on the internet in the interests of science. “This level is what you would expect in someone who had a great-grandparent who was African,” said Kari Stefansson of deCODE Genetics, whose company carried out the analysis.


    And here is Einstein’s mother:

    https://history.aip.org/exhibits/einstein/images/ae3.jpg

    It’s extremely rare for anyone of older English Ancestry to have black genes. There just weren’t enough blacks around in England before the modern era to have produced much in the way of descendants. However, I would not be surprised that once Watson submitted his DNA, someone at the testing company reported false results just to maliciously mess around with Watson’s legacy. For example, the testers at 23andMe are notorious for producing false results to ‘get at’ whites they hate and despise. I think Watson was targeted the same way. You can’t trust the honesty of the DNA companies when they’re got an agenda and an SJW is in charge of the test results.

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  175. nebulafox says:
    @Antiwar7
    Albert Einstein was always a grade-A hypocrite. When Germany invaded Serbia, his then-wife's country, he was a pacifist. When the Nazis threatened Jews, he wrote a letter to the US president urging him to develop an atom bomb. Enough said.

    1) Austria-Hungary invaded Serbia, not Germany.

    2) By 1914, Einstein’s first marriage was dead. His wife left for Switzerland with the boys right before the war started. Also, unlike most intellectuals in Germany(Jews included), he was against the outbreak of WW I.

    3) He was honestly scared the Germans would get the bomb first. This was right after the Hahn/Meitner/Stressemann team in Berlin proved nuclear fission.

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  176. nebulafox says:
    @Doug
    That was the dumbest thing I've ever read.

    I have put up with my quota of stupidity this week already, so I will pass. But why do the cranks always try to disprove GR? Never QM or anything else?

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  177. nebulafox says:
    @Daniel Chieh
    To be fair, he went to the end of his life trying to prove and hoping that quantum mechanics would be wrong. The notion that reality is based on some sort of indeterminable randomness is pretty annoying. In fact, he basically stated as such:

    Einstein further refined his position, making it completely clear that what really disturbed him about the quantum theory was the problem of the total renunciation of all minimal standards of realism, even at the microscopic level, that the acceptance of the completeness of the theory implied.

    James Clerk Maxwell didn’t believe in evolution, that doesn’t mean his laws of electromagnetism are wrong.

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    Oh, definitely. Its just amusing that someone as brilliant as Einstein rejected a coherent theory basically because it bothered his sense of reality.
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  178. @Harry Baldwin
    Q: What's the difference between a tourist in Africa and a racist?

    A: Ten minutes.

    My ancestors headed down there in the late 1600s. I suspect it took them less than 10 minutes to develop some pretty solid prejudices;-)

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  179. @nebulafox
    James Clerk Maxwell didn't believe in evolution, that doesn't mean his laws of electromagnetism are wrong.

    Oh, definitely. Its just amusing that someone as brilliant as Einstein rejected a coherent theory basically because it bothered his sense of reality.

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    Einstein didn't think QM was wrong; he thought it was incomplete. He never questioned its results. He jut wanted a realist, not probabilistic interpretation & couldn't abide even with Feynman's approach: https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/this-man-was-einstein-and-bohrs-relationship-counselor/
    ...............................
    An opportunity came for a possible reconciliation when Wheeler’s student Richard Feynman developed a radical alternative to the standard methods of quantum mechanics. In Feynman’s so-called path integral formalism, dubbed by Wheeler “sum over histories,” quantum calculations are performed via a weighted sum of probability amplitudes for the various alternative paths in which an interaction might transpire. It is like calculating one’s overall exertion during a commute to work by reckoning with the alternatives of taking a bus, train, taxi, and walking in tandem, as if all done at once, instead of considering them separately. The classical path was simply the likeliest.

    Armed with what he thought was a superior way of looking at quantum mechanics, Wheeler stopped by Einstein’s house and engaged him in a deep discussion about Feynman’s methods. Nevertheless, the stubborn elderly physicist was not persuaded. “I can’t believe that God plays dice,” said Einstein. “But maybe I’ve earned the right to make my mistakes.”
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  180. Mr. Anon says:
    @Bliss

    If they find evidence that an historical figure was one-part black, then it means blacks are just as responsible for our civilization as whites......Well if Einstein expressed such views, and Watson expressed such views
     
    Well, guess what? Both Einstein and Watson were part black:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1937345/posts

    JAMES WATSON, the DNA pioneer who claimed Africans are less intelligent than whites, has been found to have 16 times more genes of black origin than the average white European. An analysis of his genome shows that 16% of his genes are likely to have come from a black ancestor of African descent. By contrast, most people of European descent would have no more than 1%.

    The study was made possible when he allowed his genome - the map of all his genes - to be published on the internet in the interests of science. “This level is what you would expect in someone who had a great-grandparent who was African,” said Kari Stefansson of deCODE Genetics, whose company carried out the analysis.


    And here is Einstein’s mother:

    https://history.aip.org/exhibits/einstein/images/ae3.jpg

    She doesn’t look black; she looks Samoan. Is somebody suggesting that sometime back in the 19th century, a jewish guy in Ulm married a samoan mail-order bride?

    The more likely explanation is that she was just ugly.

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  181. @CE
    The time he visited China was about the nadir of Chinese civilization. Remember if you read Europeans' views of America, many at different times had quite low opinions of the Americans. From about 1840 to 1950, China went through major change from basically a mideval world into a modern world with basically everystep gone wrong. And then, after 1949, another kind of terror went on for a few more decades. A somewhat normal kind of development only started in the 1980s. And still there was 1989.

    I doubt many Chinese would feel angry about Einstein's private diary. Many would only be reminded about their own country's painful experience. "They" came for Einstein, who are they? Your own western liberals.

    Remember if you read Europeans’ views of America, many at different times had quite low opinions of the Americans.

    There are a number of travel books written in the 1840s by English men and women who traveled around the frontier areas of America and provided lurid accounts of the violent, backward denizens therein. Bowie knives carried brazenly, rough-and-tumble fights, brutal duels, filth and poverty, animalistic table manners, etc. There was a good market for these back in England.

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    This grew into the Myth of the American Wild West and resulted in popular and profitable Wild West Shows. Buffalo Bill and Annie Oakley were huge stars in Europe. Even the "Wild Indians" were celebrities in Europe, although when the tours were over, they went back to wearing denim jeans instead of buckskin and feathers, and smoking cigars instead of peace pipes.
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  182. Roger says: • Website
    @Daniel Chieh
    To be fair, he went to the end of his life trying to prove and hoping that quantum mechanics would be wrong. The notion that reality is based on some sort of indeterminable randomness is pretty annoying. In fact, he basically stated as such:

    Einstein further refined his position, making it completely clear that what really disturbed him about the quantum theory was the problem of the total renunciation of all minimal standards of realism, even at the microscopic level, that the acceptance of the completeness of the theory implied.

    In this context, “realism” has a funny meaning. Realism is the belief that quantum mechanics should model aspects of atoms and particles that are not observable, so that the theory can tell us what is really going on in the atom.

    The trouble is that the behavior of atoms and particles are not like anything in our ordinary experience, so attempts for a more intuitive realistic understanding of the sort that Einstein wanted have failed.

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  183. @Harry Baldwin
    Remember if you read Europeans’ views of America, many at different times had quite low opinions of the Americans.

    There are a number of travel books written in the 1840s by English men and women who traveled around the frontier areas of America and provided lurid accounts of the violent, backward denizens therein. Bowie knives carried brazenly, rough-and-tumble fights, brutal duels, filth and poverty, animalistic table manners, etc. There was a good market for these back in England.

    This grew into the Myth of the American Wild West and resulted in popular and profitable Wild West Shows. Buffalo Bill and Annie Oakley were huge stars in Europe. Even the “Wild Indians” were celebrities in Europe, although when the tours were over, they went back to wearing denim jeans instead of buckskin and feathers, and smoking cigars instead of peace pipes.

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  184. Anonymous[417] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr. Anon

    ............., the man who famously once described racism as “a disease of white people” ...........
     
    A disease of "fellow white people".

    Here, Einstein perceives a foreign ‘race’ as a threat, which … is one of the characteristics of a racist ideology.
     
    For most of his adult life, Einstein perceived the german 'race' as a threat. Was that deemed characteristic of a racist ideology on his part?

    Well that’s just incorrect. Einstein was ok with Germany until he was run out of German academia for being Jewish.

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    Well that’s just incorrect. Einstein was ok with Germany until he was run out of German academia for being Jewish.
     
    I don't know anything about Einstein's biography, so for all I know he may have been treated disgracefully.

    However, seem to be working from the assumption that Einstein had a right to his academic post in Germany. What is the basis for this assumption, and does it not imply that no one may be fairly deprived of X on account of their identity as Y?

    Did Einstein identify with non-Jewish Germans? What do you mean by "ok with Germany"?

    , @Mr. Anon

    Well that’s just incorrect. Einstein was ok with Germany until he was run out of German academia for being Jewish.
     
    No, it is correct. You are wrong. Einstein was never too keen on german society, even before 1933. Anyway, I was referring to Einstein's view of Germans after he left Germany. He viewed them as a threat to his people. He wasn't wrong. The author of the piece that occasioned this thread acts as if any perception of other groups as threats is inherently racist. But he never addressed Einstein's rather well-known distrust of german society.
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  185. @Daniel Chieh
    Oh, definitely. Its just amusing that someone as brilliant as Einstein rejected a coherent theory basically because it bothered his sense of reality.

    Einstein didn’t think QM was wrong; he thought it was incomplete. He never questioned its results. He jut wanted a realist, not probabilistic interpretation & couldn’t abide even with Feynman’s approach: https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/this-man-was-einstein-and-bohrs-relationship-counselor/
    ………………………….
    An opportunity came for a possible reconciliation when Wheeler’s student Richard Feynman developed a radical alternative to the standard methods of quantum mechanics. In Feynman’s so-called path integral formalism, dubbed by Wheeler “sum over histories,” quantum calculations are performed via a weighted sum of probability amplitudes for the various alternative paths in which an interaction might transpire. It is like calculating one’s overall exertion during a commute to work by reckoning with the alternatives of taking a bus, train, taxi, and walking in tandem, as if all done at once, instead of considering them separately. The classical path was simply the likeliest.

    Armed with what he thought was a superior way of looking at quantum mechanics, Wheeler stopped by Einstein’s house and engaged him in a deep discussion about Feynman’s methods. Nevertheless, the stubborn elderly physicist was not persuaded. “I can’t believe that God plays dice,” said Einstein. “But maybe I’ve earned the right to make my mistakes.”

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  186. Relevant and amusing:

    Chinese internet users are surprisingly sympathetic to Einstein’s racist remarks

    Some noted Einstein’s descriptions are a lot like those of the famous Chinese writer Lu Xun, whose short stories depicted people’s suffering as they experienced the radical social changes of that time. “They are observant descriptions, just like Lu Xun, it was a criticism,” wrote Mingde Zhiying.

    Another asked, “Do we treat people’s criticism differently just because Lu Xun was Chinese while Einstein was a foreigner?”

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    Do we know how Indians have reacted to Einstein's diaries? A great nation like China doesn't give a damn about what foreigners think of them. More power to them.
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  187. BB753 says:
    @Daniel Chieh
    Relevant and amusing:

    Chinese internet users are surprisingly sympathetic to Einstein's racist remarks


    Some noted Einstein’s descriptions are a lot like those of the famous Chinese writer Lu Xun, whose short stories depicted people’s suffering as they experienced the radical social changes of that time. “They are observant descriptions, just like Lu Xun, it was a criticism,” wrote Mingde Zhiying.

    Another asked, “Do we treat people’s criticism differently just because Lu Xun was Chinese while Einstein was a foreigner?”
     

    Do we know how Indians have reacted to Einstein’s diaries? A great nation like China doesn’t give a damn about what foreigners think of them. More power to them.

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    The Indian cyberspace basically is constantly screaming about everything all of the time, so there's no difference from the norm.
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  188. Ragno says:
    @San Fernando Curt
    Racism now wildly oversold as humanity's prime scrourge.

    Thank you!

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  189. @BB753
    Do we know how Indians have reacted to Einstein's diaries? A great nation like China doesn't give a damn about what foreigners think of them. More power to them.

    The Indian cyberspace basically is constantly screaming about everything all of the time, so there’s no difference from the norm.

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    Indians are famously thin-skinned and whiny.
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  190. BB753 says:
    @Anonymous
    Incidentally, in East Asia, the Chinese are known for sitting in chairs and for their traditional wooden chairs, while the Japanese sat on mats on the floor and never built elaborate wooden chairs.

    Sitting on the toilet is believed to cause hemorrhoids and other issues like constipation. This is why the Squatty Potty has become popular:

    https://i.imgur.com/KaewN6N.jpg

    Even Bruce Lee needed a squatty potty.

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  191. @3g4me
    @51 Buzz Mohawk -

    For your fount of White working-man wisdom, your race-realism, your American patriotism, and your overall comment quality (not to mention your father's contribution to modern plumbing) I am your #1 fan!

    XXXOOO (from one happily-married individual to another!)

    Thank You!

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  192. BB753 says:
    @Daniel Chieh
    The Indian cyberspace basically is constantly screaming about everything all of the time, so there's no difference from the norm.

    Indians are famously thin-skinned and whiny.

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    Well, it's not like Americans don't whine about perceived European anti-Americanism and "eurotrash" and so on. What's funny is that we didn't do that 50 years ago, when Americans enjoyed being made fun of by the likes of Evelyn Waugh.

    What I find funnier about Einstein is this:

    when he was in Japan, when he wrote a note of advice to a courier instead of a tip.
     
    (from this article: http://www.island.lk/index.php?page_cat=article-details&page=article-details&code_title=174223 )

    I knew from the moment he mentioned the stench that he had been to the Pettah...
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  193. @John Derbyshire

    Derbyshire, China is not the West. The West is not black/Asian/Jewish/Muslim. We have our civilization. We don’t need China’s. However, China needs you and your Chinese family.

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    他妈的你
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  194. Rosie says:
    @Anonymous
    Well that's just incorrect. Einstein was ok with Germany until he was run out of German academia for being Jewish.

    Well that’s just incorrect. Einstein was ok with Germany until he was run out of German academia for being Jewish.

    I don’t know anything about Einstein’s biography, so for all I know he may have been treated disgracefully.

    However, seem to be working from the assumption that Einstein had a right to his academic post in Germany. What is the basis for this assumption, and does it not imply that no one may be fairly deprived of X on account of their identity as Y?

    Did Einstein identify with non-Jewish Germans? What do you mean by “ok with Germany”?

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    Einstein later wrote, "I have always condemned the use of the atomic bomb against Japan."
    http://www.doug-long.com/einstein.htm

    Einstein wanted to nuke Germany, but not Russia or Japan. That should tell us enough about how much he liked Germany.

    Yes, Germany was suspected of working on an atomic bomb, but so were Russia and Japan.
    , @Anonymous
    Einstein identified strongly with the Jewish people and opposed assimilation:

    https://twitter.com/TOOEdit/status/1006901117781864450
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  195. Anon[316] • Disclaimer says:

    It seems Einstein’s views anticipated current speech about Chinese.

    There’s lots of China-bashing by all sides. So, what is the problem?

    Chinese spies, Chinese currency manipulation, Chinese military threat, Chinese trade imbalance, etc… though it pales next to Russia-bashing, Iran-bashing, and white-male-bashing.

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  196. Related to the original article: a friend shared it on Facebook, where I replied with

    “It’s just like a dirty Jew to have those opinions /s”

    and got my first ever 24-hour, automatic, no-appeal Facebook jail sentence within seconds. Apparently their algorithms don’t recognize an explicit sarcasm tag, for what that’s worth.

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  197. @Bliss

    If they find evidence that an historical figure was one-part black, then it means blacks are just as responsible for our civilization as whites......Well if Einstein expressed such views, and Watson expressed such views
     
    Well, guess what? Both Einstein and Watson were part black:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1937345/posts

    JAMES WATSON, the DNA pioneer who claimed Africans are less intelligent than whites, has been found to have 16 times more genes of black origin than the average white European. An analysis of his genome shows that 16% of his genes are likely to have come from a black ancestor of African descent. By contrast, most people of European descent would have no more than 1%.

    The study was made possible when he allowed his genome - the map of all his genes - to be published on the internet in the interests of science. “This level is what you would expect in someone who had a great-grandparent who was African,” said Kari Stefansson of deCODE Genetics, whose company carried out the analysis.


    And here is Einstein’s mother:

    https://history.aip.org/exhibits/einstein/images/ae3.jpg

    Bliss, Watson is not 16% black. What they found were some gypsy genes.

    Why do you care if people are black? Aren’t you a Muslim? We commented a while back and you were defending Muslims. Most Muslims are black/Asian.

    Who, what are you? Your comments are all over the map.

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  198. Wonder if the National Academy of Science will have to remove their statue of Einstein that sits on Constitution Ave in Wash DC

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  199. Roger says: • Website
    @Rosie

    Well that’s just incorrect. Einstein was ok with Germany until he was run out of German academia for being Jewish.
     
    I don't know anything about Einstein's biography, so for all I know he may have been treated disgracefully.

    However, seem to be working from the assumption that Einstein had a right to his academic post in Germany. What is the basis for this assumption, and does it not imply that no one may be fairly deprived of X on account of their identity as Y?

    Did Einstein identify with non-Jewish Germans? What do you mean by "ok with Germany"?

    Einstein later wrote, “I have always condemned the use of the atomic bomb against Japan.”

    http://www.doug-long.com/einstein.htm

    Einstein wanted to nuke Germany, but not Russia or Japan. That should tell us enough about how much he liked Germany.

    Yes, Germany was suspected of working on an atomic bomb, but so were Russia and Japan.

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    Didn't Oppenheimer, who was a commie, also have misgivings about using nukes against Japan and the USSR? Those sweet nukes were meant to kill evil Germans.
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  200. She’s baaaaaack!

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  201. @attilathehen
    Derbyshire, China is not the West. The West is not black/Asian/Jewish/Muslim. We have our civilization. We don't need China's. However, China needs you and your Chinese family.

    他妈的你

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    You're command of a foreign language is impressive. How witty.

    If I recall correctly, you are believing RCCer who will OSCULUM INFAME black/Asian priests-popes. Look up osculum infame in Chinese. You'll need to know how to say it.
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  202. @Rosamond Vincy
    他妈的你

    You’re command of a foreign language is impressive. How witty.

    If I recall correctly, you are believing RCCer who will OSCULUM INFAME black/Asian priests-popes. Look up osculum infame in Chinese. You’ll need to know how to say it.

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    Mater tua criceta fuit, et pater tuo redoluit bacarum sambucus.
    , @üeljang
    It's neither impressive nor witty. It is Google's mistranslation of an English profanity ("F*** you") into nonsensical Chinese.

    你妈的 nǐmāde (literally, "Your mother's ...") and 你他妈的 nǐ tāmāde (literally, "You ... his mother's ...") are typical Chinese trash talk.

    What Rosamond posted was 他妈的你 tāmāde nǐ ("His mother's you," "You of his mother").

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  203. Anonymous[237] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rosie

    Well that’s just incorrect. Einstein was ok with Germany until he was run out of German academia for being Jewish.
     
    I don't know anything about Einstein's biography, so for all I know he may have been treated disgracefully.

    However, seem to be working from the assumption that Einstein had a right to his academic post in Germany. What is the basis for this assumption, and does it not imply that no one may be fairly deprived of X on account of their identity as Y?

    Did Einstein identify with non-Jewish Germans? What do you mean by "ok with Germany"?

    Einstein identified strongly with the Jewish people and opposed assimilation:

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    Einstein identified strongly with the Jewish people and opposed assimilation:
     
    Rather as I suspected. Of course, he was certainly entitled to his identity, but then its hardly fair to complain if Germany didn't want Jews dominating their culture.
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  204. Mr. Anon says:
    @Anonymous
    Well that's just incorrect. Einstein was ok with Germany until he was run out of German academia for being Jewish.

    Well that’s just incorrect. Einstein was ok with Germany until he was run out of German academia for being Jewish.

    No, it is correct. You are wrong. Einstein was never too keen on german society, even before 1933. Anyway, I was referring to Einstein’s view of Germans after he left Germany. He viewed them as a threat to his people. He wasn’t wrong. The author of the piece that occasioned this thread acts as if any perception of other groups as threats is inherently racist. But he never addressed Einstein’s rather well-known distrust of german society.

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    This is purely conjecture on my end, but I suspect that the vehemence of his feelings toward the Germans stemmed from the fact that Einstein felt betrayed, in a very personal sense.

    He could have easily left Germany in the 1920s when he was getting death threats and the political situation was very unstable. He had plenty of offers around the world. But he stayed in Berlin and even agreed to retake German citizenship, which he gave up as a teenager after leaving for Switzerland. I think he felt that the Germans after WWI were really attempting to make a do-over away from Wilhelminian imperialism and militarism, and he wanted the Weimar Republic to succeed. In good faith, he decided to trust them. (He was also appalled by the Treaty of Versailles because he thought it proved the Allies were no better and that nobody had learned any lessons from the carnage.) He made a point of not going to the Solvay Conference of 1920 when he discovered that he was the only German national invited. Even in the early 1930s when things were getting dangerous, Einstein kept to his guns in Berlin and kept predicting that Hitler would go away once economic conditions improved.

    1933, and the very crude, animalistic nature of Hitler and the Nazi movement, being supported by all of official German academia... must have felt like a slap in the face. Though he'd remain on good terms with individual Germans who he felt did their genuine best to resist the madness for the rest of his life (Hahn, von Laue, and before their deaths, Planck, Nernst, and Sommerfeld), he refused to have anything to do with Germany or anything remotely German related for the rest of his life (which was absolutely his right), to the point where he chewed out fellow German-Jewish emigres like James Franck and Max Born for being willing to move back to Germany or deal with the Germans. One of his last deathbed conversations with his elder son was about the dangers of West German rearmament. Einstein remained forever haunted by Germany to the point where he worried McCarthyism was the second coming of Wilhelmianism, even pointing to the Germans as a people who were "ruined" by their infatuation with the military, nationalism, etc. I think he intellectually knew that America, whatever its faults, had such a vastly different political culture that this was paranoia, but emotionally, he just couldn't escape the comparison. He was that scarred by it all.

    (Note also that Einstein's embrace of explicit Zionism and Jewish pride, as opposed to just generally gauzy internationalism and pan-European cooperation, increased exponentially in the 1930s. His comments on the traditional Orthodox Ostjuden praying at the Wailing Wall in the 1920s are anything but admiring: and very typical of the views of bourgeois German Jews of his day, even moreso due to the Jewish emigration from Poland into cities like Berlin. There was a major cultural clash between the two, especially when the kids of the Ostjuden began assimilating into German culture. Not that it mattered to the Nazis, of course.)

    However... Einstein's view of the world, down to his death, retained a very specifically *German-Jewish* character to it. Just like previous rejected German-Jews, like Karl Marx or Heinrich Heine, that very special kind of abstract intellectual rigor, idealism and determinism, that asociality of grand theories, shrinking from no intellectual conclusion, that mindset was so typical of the pre-Nazi German speaking world and of German Jewry in particular: he couldn't escape it as a teenager, and he couldn't escape it as an old man. And ironically enough, it would be his polar opposite in just about everything in life-Adolf Hitler, the penultimate degraded, declassed product of German culture, and the bourgeois European age more generally-that would finally destroy this mode of thought that brought the world so much innovation and so much grief at the same time.

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  205. @attilathehen
    You're command of a foreign language is impressive. How witty.

    If I recall correctly, you are believing RCCer who will OSCULUM INFAME black/Asian priests-popes. Look up osculum infame in Chinese. You'll need to know how to say it.

    Mater tua criceta fuit, et pater tuo redoluit bacarum sambucus.

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    She who smelt it, dealt it. "quae in speculo resplendent vultus."
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  206. A rare follow up by the Guardian that runs counter to the original article.

    Chinese defend Einstein’s portrait of their people as ‘filthy’ and ‘obtuse’

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jun/15/chinese-defend-einsteins-diaries-filthy-obtuse

    Many were in strong support of the scientist: “This is called insulting China? That’s ridiculous. Did the Chinese in that era look dirty? When I see the photos from then, they look dirty, Einstein depicted the true state of that era.”

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    This is one of the reasons I like the Chinese. They don't have hang-ups. The present matters. Screw the past. Look straight ahead and work your butt off. Never complain.
    , @Rosamond Vincy
    Whoa.
    Call me impressed.
    Did the Guardian bury this on a back page?
    , @George
    I think Chinese official policy is that before Mao everything was miserable, so Einstein is conforming to official policy. Sort of like saying Nazi concentration camp victims were miserable wreches.
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  207. BB753 says:
    @Roger
    Einstein later wrote, "I have always condemned the use of the atomic bomb against Japan."
    http://www.doug-long.com/einstein.htm

    Einstein wanted to nuke Germany, but not Russia or Japan. That should tell us enough about how much he liked Germany.

    Yes, Germany was suspected of working on an atomic bomb, but so were Russia and Japan.

    Didn’t Oppenheimer, who was a commie, also have misgivings about using nukes against Japan and the USSR? Those sweet nukes were meant to kill evil Germans.

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  208. BB753 says:
    @PiltdownMan
    A rare follow up by the Guardian that runs counter to the original article.

    Chinese defend Einstein's portrait of their people as 'filthy' and 'obtuse'

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jun/15/chinese-defend-einsteins-diaries-filthy-obtuse


    Many were in strong support of the scientist: “This is called insulting China? That’s ridiculous. Did the Chinese in that era look dirty? When I see the photos from then, they look dirty, Einstein depicted the true state of that era.”
     

    This is one of the reasons I like the Chinese. They don’t have hang-ups. The present matters. Screw the past. Look straight ahead and work your butt off. Never complain.

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  209. @PiltdownMan
    A rare follow up by the Guardian that runs counter to the original article.

    Chinese defend Einstein's portrait of their people as 'filthy' and 'obtuse'

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jun/15/chinese-defend-einsteins-diaries-filthy-obtuse


    Many were in strong support of the scientist: “This is called insulting China? That’s ridiculous. Did the Chinese in that era look dirty? When I see the photos from then, they look dirty, Einstein depicted the true state of that era.”
     

    Whoa.
    Call me impressed.
    Did the Guardian bury this on a back page?

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  210. Anon[298] • Disclaimer says:
    @BB753
    Indians are famously thin-skinned and whiny.

    Well, it’s not like Americans don’t whine about perceived European anti-Americanism and “eurotrash” and so on. What’s funny is that we didn’t do that 50 years ago, when Americans enjoyed being made fun of by the likes of Evelyn Waugh.

    What I find funnier about Einstein is this:

    when he was in Japan, when he wrote a note of advice to a courier instead of a tip.

    (from this article: http://www.island.lk/index.php?page_cat=article-details&page=article-details&code_title=174223 )

    I knew from the moment he mentioned the stench that he had been to the Pettah…

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  211. üeljang says:
    @attilathehen
    You're command of a foreign language is impressive. How witty.

    If I recall correctly, you are believing RCCer who will OSCULUM INFAME black/Asian priests-popes. Look up osculum infame in Chinese. You'll need to know how to say it.

    It’s neither impressive nor witty. It is Google’s mistranslation of an English profanity (“F*** you”) into nonsensical Chinese.

    你妈的 nǐmāde (literally, “Your mother’s …”) and 你他妈的 nǐ tāmāde (literally, “You … his mother’s …”) are typical Chinese trash talk.

    What Rosamond posted was 他妈的你 tāmāde nǐ (“His mother’s you,” “You of his mother”).

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    Why did I have that suspicion about the possible meaning of these words ;-) ?


    Anyway, the good intention was there, so we should give her full points, what do you think?

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  212. Anon[298] • Disclaimer says:
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  213. @Rosamond Vincy
    Mater tua criceta fuit, et pater tuo redoluit bacarum sambucus.

    She who smelt it, dealt it. “quae in speculo resplendent vultus.”

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    Et cum grenade manu erexit, Attila in excelsis.
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  214. Anon 2 says:
    @nebulafox
    Well, I should have clarified myself a little better: he was a committed internationalist, anti-nationalist, pacifist, and socialist who felt an immediate happy rush upon leaving Wilhelminian Germany with its social regimentation and militarism. Which, given his life experiences, was a rather understandable position to take, even if many around these parts wouldn't agree with it. Again: this would not remotely translate into modern day SJWism with its open disdain for empirical scientific reality. Still, to get an idea of how disdainful the young Einstein was for the societal conventions of his day, especially nationalism and related ideas, his first wife was an Orthodox Serb from southern Hungary. That was flat out scandalous in the bourgeois Mitteleuropean Jewish milieu from which he came.

    Now, in the 1920s, when this letter was written, he had settled down somewhat with his radically different second wife into the sort of aforementioned respectable bourgeois Mitteleuropean upper-middle class life (in Berlin working at the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute, of all places) he would have scorned as a younger man-the irony of which was probably not lost on him. ("Fate has cursed my contempt for authority by making me one.") But the 1930s and the rise of Hitler would change that, big time.

    Re: “Einstein’s wife was an Orthodox Serb from southern Hungary”

    Actually, Mileva Marić, Einstein’s first wife, was born into a wealthy
    Serbian family in Titel, Serbia, the country then occupied by the Austrian
    Hapsburgs. She was 4 years older than Einstein. Their first son Hans
    Albert was born in 1904, and emigrated to the U.S. in 1938. He later
    became a professor of engineering at UC Berkeley. He had 4 children,
    one of whom, Bernhard Caesar Einstein (1930-2008) also became a
    physicist, and worked at Texas Instruments and Litton Industries.
    He, in turn, had 5 children, so fecundity seems to run in the family.
    One of his children (i.e., Einstein’s great-grandchildren) is a physician
    at the UCLA Medical Center in Santa Monica

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    You forgot to mention another famous grandson of his, Clement Freud, British MP and serial pedophile.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clement_Freud
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  215. Yngvar says:

    He’s right you know.

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  216. @attilathehen
    She who smelt it, dealt it. "quae in speculo resplendent vultus."

    Et cum grenade manu erexit, Attila in excelsis.

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    My name is Attilathehen, you functional illiterate. I will be in the highest heaven. You are acting very Muslim. You can't deal with facts.
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  217. George says:
    @PiltdownMan
    A rare follow up by the Guardian that runs counter to the original article.

    Chinese defend Einstein's portrait of their people as 'filthy' and 'obtuse'

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jun/15/chinese-defend-einsteins-diaries-filthy-obtuse


    Many were in strong support of the scientist: “This is called insulting China? That’s ridiculous. Did the Chinese in that era look dirty? When I see the photos from then, they look dirty, Einstein depicted the true state of that era.”
     

    I think Chinese official policy is that before Mao everything was miserable, so Einstein is conforming to official policy. Sort of like saying Nazi concentration camp victims were miserable wreches.

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  218. Rosie says:
    @Anonymous
    Einstein identified strongly with the Jewish people and opposed assimilation:

    https://twitter.com/TOOEdit/status/1006901117781864450

    Einstein identified strongly with the Jewish people and opposed assimilation:

    Rather as I suspected. Of course, he was certainly entitled to his identity, but then its hardly fair to complain if Germany didn’t want Jews dominating their culture.

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    But then the Germans can't complain that they fell behind in their science after the brain drain. Don't forget that in addition to Jews who fled or got thrown into camps, there were non-Jewish scientists who wouldn't cooperate with the Reich. Those who weren't exiles or prisoners kept a low profile rather than argue with the Reich about what constituted "German science." At the very least, those who didn't follow Nazi ideology could be deprived of their positions, and they'd seen it happen in other fields.
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  219. BB753 says:
    @Anon 2
    Re: "Einstein's wife was an Orthodox Serb from southern Hungary"

    Actually, Mileva Marić, Einstein's first wife, was born into a wealthy
    Serbian family in Titel, Serbia, the country then occupied by the Austrian
    Hapsburgs. She was 4 years older than Einstein. Their first son Hans
    Albert was born in 1904, and emigrated to the U.S. in 1938. He later
    became a professor of engineering at UC Berkeley. He had 4 children,
    one of whom, Bernhard Caesar Einstein (1930-2008) also became a
    physicist, and worked at Texas Instruments and Litton Industries.
    He, in turn, had 5 children, so fecundity seems to run in the family.
    One of his children (i.e., Einstein's great-grandchildren) is a physician
    at the UCLA Medical Center in Santa Monica

    You forgot to mention another famous grandson of his, Clement Freud, British MP and serial pedophile.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clement_Freud

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  220. @Rosamond Vincy
    Et cum grenade manu erexit, Attila in excelsis.

    My name is Attilathehen, you functional illiterate. I will be in the highest heaven. You are acting very Muslim. You can’t deal with facts.

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    Pox vobiscum.
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  221. @Rosie

    Einstein identified strongly with the Jewish people and opposed assimilation:
     
    Rather as I suspected. Of course, he was certainly entitled to his identity, but then its hardly fair to complain if Germany didn't want Jews dominating their culture.

    But then the Germans can’t complain that they fell behind in their science after the brain drain. Don’t forget that in addition to Jews who fled or got thrown into camps, there were non-Jewish scientists who wouldn’t cooperate with the Reich. Those who weren’t exiles or prisoners kept a low profile rather than argue with the Reich about what constituted “German science.” At the very least, those who didn’t follow Nazi ideology could be deprived of their positions, and they’d seen it happen in other fields.

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    • Replies: @nebulafox
    Heisenberg probably would have ended up in a camp if his mother wasn't friends with Heinrich Himmler's mother.

    Scientific brain drains can really screw your nation over in the long run. The reason Iran does not have the bomb yet despite inheriting the Shah's program can be attributed to the mullahs purging the scientific sector of all un-Islamic influences throughout the 1980s, which worked out about as well as you'd expect. Iran's leaders have been working day and night since the 1990s to recuperate, and that has involved raising an entirely new generation of scientists and engineers from scratch.

    (It naturally exacerbated matters that Iran happened to lead the developing world in female scientists, and especially female nuclear physicists, pre-1979.)
    , @Rosie

    But then the Germans can’t complain that they fell behind in their science after the brain drain.
     
    You won't amount to anything without us, goyim.
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  222. @Mr. Anon

    I will never look at Einstein the same way. That dirty rotten no good racist. You know what you can do with your racist E=mc^2?
     
    More like E=K^3!

    Dude – that’s massively insensitive to the “E-fluid” and those who identify as “non-E” (or who reject the whole E construct).

    It should be

    “(Whatever designator you choose) = (whatever you feel is right for you)^(whatever power you think is necessary to end your oppression) + (a participation trophy)”

    Mathematics is fascistic slavery, with its imposition of all sorts of rules that restrict expression.
    1 + 1 = ice-cream (or anti-Semite!!!) should be equally-acceptable responses, and if you think they’re not, you are basically Hitler.

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  223. @nebulafox
    Well, I should have clarified myself a little better: he was a committed internationalist, anti-nationalist, pacifist, and socialist who felt an immediate happy rush upon leaving Wilhelminian Germany with its social regimentation and militarism. Which, given his life experiences, was a rather understandable position to take, even if many around these parts wouldn't agree with it. Again: this would not remotely translate into modern day SJWism with its open disdain for empirical scientific reality. Still, to get an idea of how disdainful the young Einstein was for the societal conventions of his day, especially nationalism and related ideas, his first wife was an Orthodox Serb from southern Hungary. That was flat out scandalous in the bourgeois Mitteleuropean Jewish milieu from which he came.

    Now, in the 1920s, when this letter was written, he had settled down somewhat with his radically different second wife into the sort of aforementioned respectable bourgeois Mitteleuropean upper-middle class life (in Berlin working at the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute, of all places) he would have scorned as a younger man-the irony of which was probably not lost on him. ("Fate has cursed my contempt for authority by making me one.") But the 1930s and the rise of Hitler would change that, big time.

    his first wife was an Orthodox Serb

    Well, then both he and she were being a tad unorthodox, then. He shoulda married an Unorthodox Serb (is that the same as an Orthodox Croat? Are these things multiplicative?).

    Ba-dup… tssssssh.

    (I’ll see myself out).

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  224. @TelfoedJohn
    When I hitchhiked through France in the 90s, the hole-in-the-ground was quite common in out of the way places. I think they’ve cleaned up a bit since then. However, recent immigration must bring a whole new standard of hygiene.

    Recently I went through Basque France and Basque Spain. The French side was immaculate, but it immediately deteriorated in the Spanish side. Strange considering they’re supposed to be the same people. I bet the French Basques are less keen on having a unified homeland.

    The Greeks have this awful system in many of their hotels, where you’re supposed to wipe, and then put your toilet paper in the wastebasket - so the plumbing doesn’t get blocked. The Roman love of plumbing never reached Greece.

    When I hitchhiked through France in the 90s, the hole-in-the-ground was quite common in out of the way places

    When I was put in a French concentration camp[1] in 2008, the “toilette à l’Arabe” was still a thing. There, and in several dunny blocks along the autoroute.

    I was in there because I refused to pay attention to their stupid rules – whereby Australians and New Zealanders can only stay in France for more than 3 months if Germany has invaded (again) and the French have capitulated (again)… whereas Krauts were free to live there for a decade if they felt like it.

    Rather unsporting, what?

    (I did ask the judge at my hearing if the government intended to dig up and deport “les squelettes des soldats ANZAC, abbatu en défendant la France quand elle a été en train d’être humiliée par les Allemands – deux fois dans un génération“: she wasn’t particularly amused, as it turned out. She would have preferred that I used “massacré” rather than “abattu” because the latter applies to livestock… I pointed out that I used the term advisedly)

    Anyhow – while in the camp at Lyon, they gassed everyone five thousand times, and made me fight a bear every day (and twice on weekends).

    Tell that to the kiddies nowadays, and they don’t believe you.

    [1] French government propaganda calls them “centres de detention administrative“, but it makes for a far more compelling – nay, harrowing - narrative to call them concentration camps.

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  225. nebulafox says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Well that’s just incorrect. Einstein was ok with Germany until he was run out of German academia for being Jewish.
     
    No, it is correct. You are wrong. Einstein was never too keen on german society, even before 1933. Anyway, I was referring to Einstein's view of Germans after he left Germany. He viewed them as a threat to his people. He wasn't wrong. The author of the piece that occasioned this thread acts as if any perception of other groups as threats is inherently racist. But he never addressed Einstein's rather well-known distrust of german society.

    This is purely conjecture on my end, but I suspect that the vehemence of his feelings toward the Germans stemmed from the fact that Einstein felt betrayed, in a very personal sense.

    He could have easily left Germany in the 1920s when he was getting death threats and the political situation was very unstable. He had plenty of offers around the world. But he stayed in Berlin and even agreed to retake German citizenship, which he gave up as a teenager after leaving for Switzerland. I think he felt that the Germans after WWI were really attempting to make a do-over away from Wilhelminian imperialism and militarism, and he wanted the Weimar Republic to succeed. In good faith, he decided to trust them. (He was also appalled by the Treaty of Versailles because he thought it proved the Allies were no better and that nobody had learned any lessons from the carnage.) He made a point of not going to the Solvay Conference of 1920 when he discovered that he was the only German national invited. Even in the early 1930s when things were getting dangerous, Einstein kept to his guns in Berlin and kept predicting that Hitler would go away once economic conditions improved.

    1933, and the very crude, animalistic nature of Hitler and the Nazi movement, being supported by all of official German academia… must have felt like a slap in the face. Though he’d remain on good terms with individual Germans who he felt did their genuine best to resist the madness for the rest of his life (Hahn, von Laue, and before their deaths, Planck, Nernst, and Sommerfeld), he refused to have anything to do with Germany or anything remotely German related for the rest of his life (which was absolutely his right), to the point where he chewed out fellow German-Jewish emigres like James Franck and Max Born for being willing to move back to Germany or deal with the Germans. One of his last deathbed conversations with his elder son was about the dangers of West German rearmament. Einstein remained forever haunted by Germany to the point where he worried McCarthyism was the second coming of Wilhelmianism, even pointing to the Germans as a people who were “ruined” by their infatuation with the military, nationalism, etc. I think he intellectually knew that America, whatever its faults, had such a vastly different political culture that this was paranoia, but emotionally, he just couldn’t escape the comparison. He was that scarred by it all.

    (Note also that Einstein’s embrace of explicit Zionism and Jewish pride, as opposed to just generally gauzy internationalism and pan-European cooperation, increased exponentially in the 1930s. His comments on the traditional Orthodox Ostjuden praying at the Wailing Wall in the 1920s are anything but admiring: and very typical of the views of bourgeois German Jews of his day, even moreso due to the Jewish emigration from Poland into cities like Berlin. There was a major cultural clash between the two, especially when the kids of the Ostjuden began assimilating into German culture. Not that it mattered to the Nazis, of course.)

    However… Einstein’s view of the world, down to his death, retained a very specifically *German-Jewish* character to it. Just like previous rejected German-Jews, like Karl Marx or Heinrich Heine, that very special kind of abstract intellectual rigor, idealism and determinism, that asociality of grand theories, shrinking from no intellectual conclusion, that mindset was so typical of the pre-Nazi German speaking world and of German Jewry in particular: he couldn’t escape it as a teenager, and he couldn’t escape it as an old man. And ironically enough, it would be his polar opposite in just about everything in life-Adolf Hitler, the penultimate degraded, declassed product of German culture, and the bourgeois European age more generally-that would finally destroy this mode of thought that brought the world so much innovation and so much grief at the same time.

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  226. nebulafox says:
    @Rosamond Vincy
    But then the Germans can't complain that they fell behind in their science after the brain drain. Don't forget that in addition to Jews who fled or got thrown into camps, there were non-Jewish scientists who wouldn't cooperate with the Reich. Those who weren't exiles or prisoners kept a low profile rather than argue with the Reich about what constituted "German science." At the very least, those who didn't follow Nazi ideology could be deprived of their positions, and they'd seen it happen in other fields.

    Heisenberg probably would have ended up in a camp if his mother wasn’t friends with Heinrich Himmler’s mother.

    Scientific brain drains can really screw your nation over in the long run. The reason Iran does not have the bomb yet despite inheriting the Shah’s program can be attributed to the mullahs purging the scientific sector of all un-Islamic influences throughout the 1980s, which worked out about as well as you’d expect. Iran’s leaders have been working day and night since the 1990s to recuperate, and that has involved raising an entirely new generation of scientists and engineers from scratch.

    (It naturally exacerbated matters that Iran happened to lead the developing world in female scientists, and especially female nuclear physicists, pre-1979.)

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    Also among the reasons areas controlled by the Taliban/Al Qaeda/Muslim Brotherhood or whichever nutjobs predominate locally have population attrition.

    They won't have female doctors, but male doctors are not allowed to view let alone touch female patients. Ergo: poor prenatal and obstetrical care, high mortality rates for both mother and child, sickly babies if they do survive, and mothers who, if they survive, may be rendered sterile by untreated medical conditions.

    There goes the next generation of jihad fodder.

    At least the Nazis understood that aspect, with their Mutterkreuz, their lebensborn program, their Bride Schools, and various financial incentives to keep pumping out those micro-Aryans.

    It's standard to say that jihadists are stuck in the middle ages, but Medieval Muslim physician Ibn Sina (well-known to the west as Avicenna) would have been appalled at their ignorance. You could probably get better gynecological care in ancient Athens. Socrates had three sons, may also have had daughters that were not recorded. That marriage was hardly an example of conjugal bliss, so the procreation may reflect good medical treatment for the time, rather than a lot of copulation thriving.
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  227. @nebulafox
    Heisenberg probably would have ended up in a camp if his mother wasn't friends with Heinrich Himmler's mother.

    Scientific brain drains can really screw your nation over in the long run. The reason Iran does not have the bomb yet despite inheriting the Shah's program can be attributed to the mullahs purging the scientific sector of all un-Islamic influences throughout the 1980s, which worked out about as well as you'd expect. Iran's leaders have been working day and night since the 1990s to recuperate, and that has involved raising an entirely new generation of scientists and engineers from scratch.

    (It naturally exacerbated matters that Iran happened to lead the developing world in female scientists, and especially female nuclear physicists, pre-1979.)

    Also among the reasons areas controlled by the Taliban/Al Qaeda/Muslim Brotherhood or whichever nutjobs predominate locally have population attrition.

    They won’t have female doctors, but male doctors are not allowed to view let alone touch female patients. Ergo: poor prenatal and obstetrical care, high mortality rates for both mother and child, sickly babies if they do survive, and mothers who, if they survive, may be rendered sterile by untreated medical conditions.

    There goes the next generation of jihad fodder.

    At least the Nazis understood that aspect, with their Mutterkreuz, their lebensborn program, their Bride Schools, and various financial incentives to keep pumping out those micro-Aryans.

    It’s standard to say that jihadists are stuck in the middle ages, but Medieval Muslim physician Ibn Sina (well-known to the west as Avicenna) would have been appalled at their ignorance. You could probably get better gynecological care in ancient Athens. Socrates had three sons, may also have had daughters that were not recorded. That marriage was hardly an example of conjugal bliss, so the procreation may reflect good medical treatment for the time, rather than a lot of copulation thriving.

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  228. Rosie says:
    @Rosamond Vincy
    But then the Germans can't complain that they fell behind in their science after the brain drain. Don't forget that in addition to Jews who fled or got thrown into camps, there were non-Jewish scientists who wouldn't cooperate with the Reich. Those who weren't exiles or prisoners kept a low profile rather than argue with the Reich about what constituted "German science." At the very least, those who didn't follow Nazi ideology could be deprived of their positions, and they'd seen it happen in other fields.

    But then the Germans can’t complain that they fell behind in their science after the brain drain.

    You won’t amount to anything without us, goyim.

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    Note the rest of that post. They didn't just lose Jewish brains: they lost "Aryan" brains who a) wanted no part of the Nazi regime; b) were politically neutral or even pro-Nazi, but weren't allowed to build their research on the findings of Einstein or any other Jewish scientist. You can't do research without addressing the work of your predecessors, even if you end up refuting them.
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    But then the Germans can’t complain that they fell behind in their science after the brain drain.
     
    You won't amount to anything without us, goyim.

    Note the rest of that post. They didn’t just lose Jewish brains: they lost “Aryan” brains who a) wanted no part of the Nazi regime; b) were politically neutral or even pro-Nazi, but weren’t allowed to build their research on the findings of Einstein or any other Jewish scientist. You can’t do research without addressing the work of your predecessors, even if you end up refuting them.

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  230. Amelia B says:

    He made certain observations. Didn’t the Chinese themselves make it mandatory for couples to only have one child? Not sure if that law is still in effect. Couples were found to murder their newborn girls because they wanted a boy and could not have both. Social workers encouraged women to abort if they already had a child. That in itself proves that the observation Einstein made about so many people was also noticed by Chinese officials. He most likely found squatting while eating offensive and vulgar because its association with him was with excrement and bathroom-type mannerisms. It takes getting used to.

    Would you want to eat street vendor food in a foreign country if you knew parts of it (such as the meat) was harvested from garbage dumpsters and garbage piles behind restaurants and put into a stew along with cheaply purchased vegetables? There was a video online all about this and it was cheap, nourishing food for people in a particular country. The man doing this (and many others most likely did this as well), washed the meat and recooked it, seasoned the meal (looked like a soup) and shopped for the vegetables himself to add to the meal which he then street sold in his stall side-by-side other vendors. What would Einstein say about this? Would you be brave enough to eat this or would you just eat it unknowingly because you are in a foreign country and don’t know any better?

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  231. Visiting China is not on my bucket list.

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  232. MBlanc46 says:
    @BB753
    Guildenstern couldn't be reached for comments, I guess.

    Guildenstern is dead.

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  233. @attilathehen
    My name is Attilathehen, you functional illiterate. I will be in the highest heaven. You are acting very Muslim. You can't deal with facts.

    Pox vobiscum.

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  234. @üeljang
    It's neither impressive nor witty. It is Google's mistranslation of an English profanity ("F*** you") into nonsensical Chinese.

    你妈的 nǐmāde (literally, "Your mother's ...") and 你他妈的 nǐ tāmāde (literally, "You ... his mother's ...") are typical Chinese trash talk.

    What Rosamond posted was 他妈的你 tāmāde nǐ ("His mother's you," "You of his mother").

    Why did I have that suspicion about the possible meaning of these words ;-) ?

    Anyway, the good intention was there, so we should give her full points, what do you think?

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