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In Slate, volunteer auxiliary humor commissar Inkoo Kang declares that Sacha Baron Cohen’s movie Borat is no longer a “politically useful comedy:”
Borat Exposed American Prejudice, but It Indulged Our Xenophobia, Too
What it’s like to rewatch Sacha Baron Cohen’s breakout movie during the Trump presidency.
By INKOO KANGJULY 17, 2018 8:13 PM
… In his breakout film, released during the waning years of the George W. Bush presidency—that far-ago era when the GOP establishment proposed a bill with a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants—Baron Cohen revealed that unvarnished strains of racism, anti-Semitism, and misogyny remain alive and well in America. …
But in 2018, Borat is mostly hard to watch for punching down as much as it punches up. The movie rips into America’s rose-tinted visions of itself, but it’s also premised on the idea that there are “shithole countries” that primarily exist to bolster our own sense of national and cultural superiority. Twelve years later, we have higher standards for what counts as politically useful comedy. Borat no longer makes the cut.
The feature does remain a clever bit of vengeance. Baron Cohen, a Jewish Brit, makes a grotesquerie out of anti-Semitism while reminding viewers that it continues to thrive all over the world. (His anti-Semitic “Kazakh” speaks no actual Kazakh in the film; most of the character’s native-language dialogue is in Hebrew.) But Borat indulged our xenophobia, too. …
What we’re really asked to laugh at, though, is a “shithole country.” With Borat, Baron Cohen reclaimed for “First Worlders” the “right” to mock foreigners from developing nations. Only with the Borat accent are the phrases “my wife!” and “very nice!” punchlines we all remember a dozen years later. At a time when the range of “funny voices” that white comics were “allowed” to do continued to narrow, Baron Cohen gave his permission to revel in a fading white privilege to the millions of frat boys he simultaneously mocked.
But in an era when the ruling administration’s single most vile act hinges on the dehumanization of outsiders, it’s hard to laugh as a white comedian takes potshots at a “shithole country” for 86 minutes while exploiting stereotypes about the poor and uneducated. After all, Baron Cohen’s view of Borat isn’t too dissimilar from how white nationalists here and in Europe view immigrants and refugees: ignorant, violent, prone to sexual assault, unable or unwilling to assimilate. … I’ll cop to laughing at Borat upon the film’s release, but as a foreign-born American and the child of immigrants, I’m sure I saw myself as the “good” kind of foreigner and Borat as the “bad.” Now, that kind of parsing is being deployed to separate families and ban immigration from certain countries (especially majority-Muslim countries—of which Kazakhstan, in real life, is one). Twelve years later, Borat continues to illuminate. But now what it lays bare is the xenophobia we were willing to embrace while pointing fingers at the bigots on-screen.
A simpler explanation is that Sacha Baron Cohen was badly misinterpreted by liberal critics in 2006 who assumed anybody funny and Jewish had to share their worldview.
Instead, if you look at the guys SBC hired to write and direct his American movies, they tend to be people who started out on Seinfeld and then followed Larry David to work on Curb Your Enthusiasm: i.e., not exactly politically correct progressives.
Of course to notice that would also require noticing that Seinfeld is an apolitical but conservative show while Curb is somewhat more explicitly satirical from an often right of center point of view, which, once again, is hard for liberal critics to do because of the high quality of Curb and the historic status of Seinfeld in recent American popular culture.
Instead, SBC represents Jewish comedy at its most traditionally ethnically hostile. For instance, Borat isn’t really about Kazakhs, it’s about Cossacks, or any Slavic eastern European Christians whom Jews long considered brutish, unmannered, and stupid. Borat was inspired by a Russian Baron Cohen had met, who then became an Albanian character named Christo, who later was changed to Borat.
Similarly, Ali G is an immigrant-stock Muslim Pakistani yoof (note Ali’s recurrent references to his Uncle Jamaal) assimilating second-hand into African-American hip-hop culture.
Bruno is an Austrian fashion nazi: i.e., Gay Hitler. (Here’s Larry David with an 8-year-old American version of Bruno.)
Admiral-General Aladeen is a leftist anti-Israel Third World Dictator in the mode of Kadaffi and Saddam.
In other words, all of SBC major characters are seen from the perspective: Is it good for the Jews? SBC was vastly praised for extracting (with vast effort) a few vaguely anti-Semitic remarks from Bush voters in Borat, but his list of Not Good for the Jews includes more problematic figures such as Muslim immigrants and gay fashionistas (who are seen as by nature fascist).
But that raises a general question, one that Seinfeld has been hinting at for a few years now: Is the rise of woke Who? Whom? thinking in the punditry about comedy going to be good for the Jews?
As I pointed out in “The Woke War on Comedy,” it has recently become intersectional dogma that straight white men who are funny are even more The Enemy than straight white men in general because their comedy skills allow them the potential to make jokes at the expense of the more humorless but sacralized identity politics categories.
But what demographic subcategory of straight white men are funniest of all on average, and therefore in line to become the most suspect and discriminated against in the never-ending War on Privilege? Right: straight white male Jews.
I used to think Sacha Baron Cohen was funny. Turns out he’s just a dick who tried and failed to snooker a Deplorable:
http://www.foxla.com/news/local-news/exclusive-riverside-gun-store-confronts-sacha-baron-cohen-after-he-comes-to-business-in-disguise
The final revenge of Kazakhstan.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1528944/Kazakhstan-launches-propaganda-campaign-against-Borat.html
And thus 90% of the article has been revealed!
“as a foreign-born American and the child of immigrants”
With an attitude such as hers, I find myself musing gee, maybe the legal ones are problematic too.
OPCW: No chemical weapons used in Syria
https://www.opcw.org/news/article/opcw-issues-fact-finding-mission-reports-on-chemical-weapons-use-allegations-in-douma-syria-in-2018-and-in-al-hamadaniya-and-karm-al-tarrab-in-2016/
>OPCW designated labs conducted analysis of prioritised samples. The results show that no organophosphorous nerve agents or their degradation products were detected in the environmental samples or in the plasma samples taken from alleged casualties. Along with explosive residues, various chlorinated organic chemicals were found in samples from two sites, for which there is full chain of custody. Work by the team to establish the significance of these results is on-going. The FFM team will continue its work to draw final conclusions.
>The Fact-Finding Mission also issued a report on 2 July 2018 addressing allegations of chemical weapons use in Al-Hamadaniya, Syria on 30 October 2016, and Karm al-Tarrab, Syria on 13 November 2016. On the basis of the information received and analysed, the prevailing narrative of the interviews, and the results of the laboratory analyses, the FFM cannot confidently determine whether or not a specific chemical was used as a weapon in the incidents that took place in the neighbourhood of Al-Hamadaniyah and in the area of Karm al-Tarrab. The FFM noted that the persons affected in the reported incidents may, in some instances, have been exposed to some type of non-persistent, irritating substance.
Sacha Baron Cohen is worth millions from doing his stupid shit. No, I have never watched one minute of this turd, though I did see the you tube clip where Trump walks out on him. Trump was scam proof.
American do not take kindly to some pos Brit pulling scam interviews here. This is why his Showtime series is a flop.
Why is this boob talking about a movie that was released 12 years ago? How is it relevant?
But what demographic category of straight white men are funniest of all on average, and therefore in line to become the most suspect and discriminated against in the War on Privilege? Right, straight white male Jews.
There’s lots of good, not great, Jewish humour, but most of what we see of it (via the USA entertainment complex) is little more than a mixture of snark and mean-spiritedness aimed at out-groups.
Cohen has a new show on Showtime that is getting a fair amount of criticism. Sarah Palin, among others, complained about getting interviewed for it under false pretenses. This sounds like a first attempt by a lefty to unperson Cohen and get his Showtime program canceled.
Well, Inkoosive ‘s family left their nation for a white-made nation. They must find the home nation to be a shithole.
If all nations are equal, why do non-whites so eager to leave from theirs for white-made nations?
And why doesn’t Inkookoo move to Africa or Latin America?
I guess she prefers Made By Whites or MBW.
It’s gratifying to see the Red White and Blue Terror finally start eating its (((own))).
Humorless third world scolds lecturing us on what is funny is unbearable and plenty of people are going to find it unbearable. There is going to be a giant F U reaction to all of this.
I consider myself right wing and love Seinfeld, but I’m curious as to how you percieve the show as conservative. Indeed, one of the things I love about the show is how there is no moral to the story as it is focused on petty, neurotic people (I don’t care what others say, the finale was genius). When they got close to political (Jerry priding himself as a smug do gooder for “helping” immigrant Babu, Elaine refusing to eat as the pro-life chef’s restaurant, Elaine disappointed her boyfriend isn’t black, the violent AIDS ribbon homosexuals, “not that there’s anything wrong with that”) they didn’t seem to take a side. Though I guess in writing this response I kinda see your point. No mainstream sitcom would even poke fun at such setups anymore.
‘…But in an era when the ruling administration’s single most vile act hinges on the dehumanization of outsiders…’
How does our support for Israel depend on ‘the dehumanization of foreigners’?
Well, I suppose it does — but you should make your reference explicit and explain your reasoning.
Another Asian female lands in America and becomes a professional anti-white. Peterike’s Law in action!
Getting those Republican politicians to endorse arming young children in schools was the perhaps the most amazing comedy in human history. You can’t help but respect him.
Yeah, they seem plenty comfortable showing up and lecturing the natives about their deplorable-ness.
Not so fast. SBC has just done more to advance the cause of gun-control than perhaps anyone ever. Despite this absurd article, which, as a leftist tabloid, Slate is unbelievably stupid to have published, there is no way he will be unpersoned anytime soon.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/unwitting-gop-lawmakers-endorse-arming-young-children-sacha/story?id=56619878
This article is an extraordinary own-goal for the left. SBC is the last person any leftists should be trying to unperson right now, given his astonishingly effective attack on gun rights
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/unwitting-gop-lawmakers-endorse-arming-young-children-sacha/story?id=56619878
The woke left has a simple rule for comedy, which the article mentions. “Punching up” is always funny, but “punching down” is THAT’S NOT FUNNY.
Thus straight white men make the worst comedians since their punching is at best sideways, but usually down.
As our national IQ quickly drops from third world migration and dysgenic fertility, simple rules like this become ever more useful.
I’ve always viewed the show as small-c conservative. So much of the humor involves observations about the small breakdowns in decorum and decency that occur in a large cosmopolitan population. Jerry’s character (and later Larry David’s in Curb) are very keen on spotting people who break the myriad unwritten rules of society, which I think is a psychologically conservative trait, if not a political one.
Well the prog-left is always recruiting ‘politically useful comedy’ but none of it is funny.
Slate really is unreadable…
Off topic but relevant…
Why hasn’t out dear host been offering what he NOTICES about the Trump investigations like his fellow comrades in arms–the Mercer’s, the Shamir’s, the McGovern’s of the world? Why a lack of sage commentary on this important matter?
I mean, there is target rich material out there.
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2018/07/darkstream-distrusting-intelligence.html
http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/u-s-national-news/2855-dear-god-they-caught-them-all-putin-gives-trump-160-terabytes-of-communication-intercepts-all-people-behind-fake-russia-collusion-false-flag-chemical-attacks-in-syria-sabotage-of-brexit-nefarious-clinton-activities-more
And, of course, how can forget about QAnon, the most trusted source out there. He/she/it says that by October 2018, there will be a storm of epic proportions–the arrests of prominent politicians, businessmen/businesswomen, top military and intelligence brass.
Throw us dear readers a bone or two!
But, let me offer a hypothesis–those who insist that the “Deep State” is behind the shenanigans, and not Trump or his most trusted underlings, risk their reputations and livelihoods should the Mueller investigation turn out to bear significant fruit in the near or distant future. Perhaps that is why Mr. Sailer chooses to remain silent on the week’s turn of events.
Maybe he knows something we do not know on this front…
Sacha Baron Cohen is very funny.
“Cohen has a new show on Showtime that is getting a fair amount of criticism. Sarah Palin, among others, complained about getting interviewed for it under false pretenses.”
You would think people today would be a little more cautious and do some background checks before mouthing off. But they just cannot help themselves. Like this golden nugget. Seems reasonable, right? Dana Rohrabacher, Joe Wilson, and former Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott think so. Start at about 7:30 for the really good stuff! I mean, putting guns in the hands of talented children in a school makes sense to me!
https://www.timesofisrael.com/republicans-back-guns-for-kids-in-sacha-baron-cohens-new-show/
Foreign-born and the child of immigrants makes her a foreign-born immigrant, not an American, except by the Naturalization process to become a US citizen. She may be a US citizen, but she’s not an American–of any description I’ve encountered.
I’d no more be an Italian by moving to Italy, and becoming an Italian citizen, merely for speaking the language.
The “shithole countries” that coastal liberals are most disdainful and now hostile are the Red State fly over country. This is the main target of Borat.
The Trump presidency has consolidated that hostility into a political force. Trump is now seen as the dictator of an occupying power -the Generalissimo of Redstateland. Thus the significance of the “Resistance” as an umbrella term for the disparate elements of the anti-Trump coalition: BLM blacktivists, #MeToo feminists, NeverTrump conservatives. An underground movement which apparently uses Deep State intelligence agencies as HQ and clearing house.
The ironies of this perverse alignment would tax the powers of the most surreal satirist. Every ideological sign is reversed:
Once Good, now Bad:
Working class
Russia
Wikileaks
Treason
Once Bad, now Good:
International companies
Germany
Intelligence community
No borders
This was an excellent prank.
Famously, Seinfeld was known as a show about nothing. It was a giant satire about the petty antics and behaviors of neurotic Upper West Side (Jewish) liberals from the inside. It was gentle ribbing, not sledge-hammer shaming. Nearly everyone I know in NYC watched it, and occasionally recite episodes, as in “you know the Seinfeld episode where…” I smile and nod my head as I watched little of it. After the first season, I got it…
Borat sings the Kazakhstan national anthem to a large crowd of Americans.
Then in 2012 this happened.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-17491344
Borat was a mockery of people who come from roughly where Armenia is located. Sort of the borderland between Eastern Europe and the Middle East.
Borat is apart of that colorful tribe known as the “Men with Gold Chains.”
Well, who didn’t know that. Or at least suspect that to be the case.
Why do you think that’s astonishingly effective?
Borat’s first movie 12 years ago had a scene where he went to the deep South to expose the horrible anti semitism that supposedly existed there in great abundance. To demonstrate this fake point he led a bunch of “typical” Southern lads in a song about throwing a Jew down a well, or something like that.
If his screenplay writers had even the slightest ability to conduct a reality check they would have known that the real hotbeds of antisemitism in the US are the major and most prestigious universities, bar none.
That’s about as far as I got into that garbage pile of an unfunny movie.
I laughed at the time but it reminds me of Monty Python – undermining civility and ‘boring’ correct behaviour through subversive humour.
(Now John Cleese has declared that he is leaving the UK because he can’t stand the country that he played a small part in creating.)
I don’t think it can be described as satire or any kind of traditional speaking-truth-to-power. It depends too much on blunt derision and mockery.
Several people have mentioned to me that Borat succeeded because, at the end of the day, Americans are quite polite and prepared to accept someone on trust – at least for a time. More difficult to pull it off elsewhere.
I’m gonna defend SBC, if only because some of the best times of my life have been sitting in a room with friends watching old Ali G episodes drunk as heck and laughing our butts off.
If you look at the old UK episodes, there’s actually some targeting of the left; there’s a bit with Naomi Wolf where he confuses girl-girl flirting with feminism, and she reassures him that feminism actually has *nothing* to do with lesbianism–it’s not exactly the same thing, but there’s a pretty strong connection, and she had to make it explicit. The scene Steve loves to quote with him going to the mines and thinking the miner is black because he’s covered in soot pokes fun at the grievance industry that blames everything on people being black. SBC used the cover of dirty humor to make some fairly conservative points, while also making fun of conservatives, of course. Let’s be honest–Pat Buchanan didn’t go over *that* badly, even if SBC did get him to talk about Saddam’s BLTs.
Of course, when he got to the USA, he was able to go after guys like Ralph Nader, but after a while everyone who watched HBO knew who he was, so by the time he did Borat he had to go after people in the heartland who didn’t watch HBO.
Now, of course, the media’s gotten even more ‘woke’ and intolerant and he has to toe the line so he mostly goes after righties. I’m disappointed–I’d love to see him troll Hillary Clinton or Sarah Silverman (he does have a little fun with Bernie Sanders). He doesn’t like Trump, as we saw in The Brothers Grimsby. But I’m sorry to see it. I think Milo owes more than a bit to Bruno and perhaps even Borat, and even if he’s on the wrong side of the aisle, I enjoy SBC’s work. Not everything has to agree with you politically.
Booyakasha!
Sooner or later, Sacha Baron Cohen would have been targeted for this single scene, alone, even if he had done nothing else after it.
https://youtu.be/NVRCyELQnSw
How come SBC never takes his shtick to the Wailing Wall, which IMHO is a verdant meadow of comedic opportunities? Old guys rocking back and forth while wailing away incomprehensibly with little books tied to their foreheads? Sticking little notes that will be read by no one into gaps between the stones instead of taking them to the post office? Wrapping themselves in heavy shawls on bright sunny days in one of the hottest countries on Earth?
Comedy gold!
Or am I missing something?
Here’s SBC doing his first draft of Borat, an Albanian reporter named Christo (presumably not Muslim):
To a gun banner, any attack on the 2nd Amendment is astonishingly effective.
“But what demographic subcategory of straight white men are funniest of all on average, and therefore in line to become the most suspect and discriminated against in the never-ending War on Privilege?”
Swedes?
In woke America, comedy is not about laughing at funny jokes, but about joke commissars telling us what we can and can’t laugh at.
Uh, it’s pretty obvious. Making prominent GOP politicians look like fanatics/idiots about gun rights helps the gun control cause.
> Seinfeld was known as a show about nothing.
That’s a popular misconception – *Seinfeld* was a show about how a comedian gets his material (answer: neurotic friends, goofy neighbors, random crazy New Yorkers, overbearing relatives, etc). Within the show, Jerry Seinfeld and George Costanza pitched a sitcom to NBC that would be “about nothing”.
I think Bruno went to Israel and tried to facilitate peace betweens Jews and Muslims.
Syria is the first widely filmed use of a non lethal WMD.
This.
Corny, this is just more of Cohen’s stupid shtick–utterly irrelevant.
But getting kids familiar and comfortable with guns–firearms training in schools–is a good idea. During my days as Scoutmaster I always had a troop shooting activity at summer camp. Occasionally a kid might skip it but most want to give it a go. And as for most of these boys scouting is their first exposure, so they starting out getting a good safety talk/demo from an NRA qualified instructor.
If I was running a school i’d have firearms training as a part of the core curriculum along with drivers ed–and better financial training, the HBD course
and a bunch of stuff. (One of the annoying things with public education these days is kids spend an incredible amount of time in school … and actually don’t learn a bunch of obviously useful important stuff in that time.)
Jason Alexander always scoffed at the idea that Seinfeld was about nothing. He pointed out it was the most tightly plotted sitcom in American TV history. It’s like saying “Noises Off” is a farce about nothing.
Early on, the Chinese restaurant show didn’t have much plot, but mostly the Seinfeld writers worked extremely hard to pack an abundance on incident into each show. The two part Summer of George episodes, for instance, are just crazy jam-packed with interwoven plot.
The 9/11 Seinfeld spec script written by an aspiring young comedy writer catches well how much work went into each episode.
Agree. Our support for Israel does depend on the dehumanization of foreigners: Muslims, in an immediate sense, but Gentiles in general at a deeper level.
He always punches down. He’s a punk.
And he took advantage of that openness to strangers, politeness, and trust for his own personal profit. Enough of his kind do that–it wouldn’t take many–and the politeness and trust in that community will be destroyed.
Maybe there’s a pattern there to notice.
It seems like Jewish humor rises to its best when generated in the midst of Christian or Christian-legacy western civilization where we see ingrained Jewish hostility towards gentiles sublimated into making humorous observations from the perspective of an outsider, or challenging accepted convention in a humorous way.
For instance, what would Groucho Marx have been without Margaret Dumont as his foil?
But with that higher civilization as a milieu in which to operate passing away (thanks in large part to the efforts of Jews), Jewish humor seems to degenerate into little more than crude earthiness, such as sex jokes and bathroom humor. Think Chuck Lorre and ‘Two and a Half Men.’
Were there any great Jewish comedians among the Jewish diaspora in Muslim lands?
Were there any great Jewish comedians within the shtetls of Eastern Europe?
Or was it the case that by being limited to within the Jewish community, there was little scope for the type of humor we would eventually see from Jews in America or Western Europe at their best?
That line struck me as well.
If you’re an immigrant and you want to whine about your treatment in America … go back! Not that complicated. You are not entitled to be here–it’s a gift. We–Americans–are doing you–foreigner–a big favor. If it’s not an upgrade–a huge upgrade–then why are you here?
Inkoo … you have to go back!
Maybe he doesn’t want to make a lot of wild speculation about rumours?
A Turk pointed out to me that Borat makes fun at the expense of average people, a dinner party, rodeo fans. Ali G took the piss out of elites, mocking their currying favor with the yoof diversitah. I is talkin to me main man Genrall Brent Scowcrof’ check it.
I love Borat but spot on. Trump and Pat Buchanan were hilarious on Ali G because they not only don’t take the bait, they don’t even recognize it as bait. I think they get it is shtick but don’t waste time thinking about it.
George Constanza was right of center.
We have always been at war with Russia.
We have never been at war with Russia.
We have always been at war with Germany.
We have never been at war with Germany.
Julian Assange is a champion of freedom and justice.
Julian Assange is a bandit and an outlaw.
The bourgeoisie is oppressing the working class.
The working class is oppressing the bourgeoisie.
Doublethink is goodthought.
If I was going to pick the kind of person I’d least want determining for me what’s funny or not, an Asian woman would be my first choice.
Young children like, say, Antonin Scalia, who carried his rifle to school on the subway?
But at least France got the World Cup.
Married With Children was implicitly conservative. The jokes just didn’t work without a hat-tip to the old ways.
Same with Benny Hill. That’s probably why he was vilified by the bien pensants.
Bingo!!
He’s a washed up comedian who can’t do comedy.
I saw his stuff when it first came and he’s not funny, unless you like watching videos of sadists pulling wings off flies.
His shtick is dead simple. Dress and pretend to be someone else and suckers the interviewee into making a fool of themselves. Kind of like 60 Minutes but done by a natural born sadist.
He tried again in Riverside,CA posing as a Hungarian immigrant trying to buy a gun. He rolls into the gun store with a camera crew and the gun store owner smells a rat when he did his song and dance, and figures out he’s Cohen and the greasy creep runs out of the store, leaving his camera crew in the dust.
How anyone can claim this creep is on our side is beyond me. Maybe I’m too old and not hip like the HBD set is.
Mostly I find him boorish and rude. He’d be a hit though on Mexican TV, they like crazy, mindless s*8t like this.
“Corny, this is just more of Cohen’s stupid shtick–utterly irrelevant.”
Hardly. That episode opens up a window to the unvarnished truth about a particular group of people, in this case die-hard conservative gun enthusiasts.
“But getting kids familiar and comfortable with guns…”
At the appropriate. Not kindergartners toting Glocks.
“–firearms training in schools–is a good idea.”
Not really.
“During my days as Scoutmaster I always had a troop shooting activity at summer camp.”
Awesome. And, no, I’m not saying that sarcastically, as I as a lad was also in Boy Scouts. Our big thing was pocket knives. We would (gasp) even take them to school and show our male teachers. They were cool about it–they said put it away and don’t bring it to school again, or I have to call home.
“Occasionally a kid might skip it but most want to give it a go. And as for most of these boys scouting is their first exposure, so they starting out getting a good safety talk/demo from an NRA qualified instructor.”
Absolutely agree.
“If I was running a school i’d have firearms training as a part of the core curriculum along with drivers ed–and better financial training”
Leave out the firearms training. Everything else is fine.
“the HBD course ;-)”
Which is propaganda.
“(One of the annoying things with public education these days is kids spend an incredible amount of time in school … and actually don’t learn a bunch of obviously useful important stuff in that time.)”
Agree and disagree on that one.
It seems to me that a oddly large number of opinion pieces in the left media these days begin with variations on that statement. They are almost always written by younger people, though once in a while some—like Max Boot who declares his foreign/immigrant origin only when it suits his purpose— are fifty somethings.
As recently as a decade ago, a person used to be required to have a track record and some level of career or intellectual mileage, or even appropriately heavy-duty credentials, before being accepted as an opinion piece writer, even if they eventually ended up being revealed as mere bloviating wiseacres.
Today, being a “foreign-born American and the child of immigrants” is an express ticket to the opinion pages. In the last year, I’ve counted about half-a-dozen or more opinion pieces in the Washington Post written by young people, with little experience of adult life, who fit that description. I’ve even seen two articles written by undergraduate summer interns.
That must be the opposite of actual comedy.
Maybe he knows the same as the rest of us, which is very little. Except for you, of course.
I consider comedy a serious art form (yes, really). I’m very disappointed with SBC. Yes, he can be very funny and is a tremendous performer, but too often he is vulgar and cruel. The sad thing is that it’s not even necessary for his success (in contrast with, say, a Howard Stern).
Slate as a Kazakh operation?
Will someone look into Kazakh ties?
Thta’s because today you can partake of vast reservoirs of moral exhaustion and transectional suffering. This was not the case in the pre-mass media era of the Clinton presidency.
Pretty obvious why Cohen doesn’t like Trump. Trump schooled Cohen badly in the Ali G sit down. The goyish kop schtick backfired and blew off Cohen’s dick.
Then Trump went and stomped every powerful Jew in America and Israel on his way to the oval office. The amount of Jewish cash, energy, and brain power that went into blocking Trump was off the charts. And still Trump prevailed.
Cohen would have to be a man of virtue and character to salute the weird greatness that is Trump. Instead Cohen is a nasty, hostile in-group warrior personality. He himself is the archetypal provincial bigot with the narrow worldview that he relentlessly hunts in his films.
In his films Cohen desperately seeks confirmation that everyone else is secretly as mean-spirited and bigoted as he is.
If you can have SexEd, you can have GunEd and lots of other UsefulEd. There used to be “military service”…
But of what?
I’ve noticed that Asian-Americans don’t really seem to understand Western comedy, leading to a dearth of Asian comedians capable of telling a funny joke. The one exception to this is Bobby Lee, who was one of the funniest cast members of the better than SNL Mad TV. Other than him, I can’t think of one talented Asian-American comedian, and I watch a heck of a lot of comedy.
I must admit that the thought occurred to me that the black American preacher at the recent Royal Wedding of Prince Harry & co could have been an imposter after the fashion of Baron Cohen
Bingo. The American hosts, as usual, were trying to be polite, fair and welcoming–to give the foreign guy a chance, in the hope that this would reflect well on them and their country. And in the process, they got taken advantage of … by the archetypal Cosmopolitan Jew. That’s why Borat’s ‘comedy’ hit a little too close to home for this old goy: it was just a cinematic representation of what actually happened to us all historically.
That’s pretty much Aziz Ansari’s shtick. Telling you what’s appropriate and not appropriate.
It’s like if your second grade teacher became a stand up comic.
I agree with your analysis.
It’s remarkable how polite, calm, patient, and considerate Americans act toward Borat. If he tried to pull this stuff in, let’s say, Iran or South Korea, it wouldn’t work. It certainly wouldn’t work in Israel.
So it’s funny, but it’s not a meaningful critique of American society.
Borat makes millions with his goofy movies and this silly little girl can only get her nonsense on Slate.
Was she paid for this inane essay? Or do Slate writers post their silly articles in the hope someone will hire them?
She should write about lipstick and nail polish and the torments of an Asian girl having straight black hair in a land of blacks and Whites.
Borat is not a Slav, sorry but that’s a dumb take.
I think that in the earliest seasons of Married with Children in the late 1980s, the Bundys’ wealthy neighbors, the Rhoades, were implicitly supposed to be yuppie Reaganites/Bushies. While the Bundys would have been oldschool Midwestern white working class Democrats, if they voted at all.
As the years went by Marcy turned into a politically correct feminist Clintonista, mirroring a real-life political shift. Al would of course have voted for Trump.
He was inspired by a Russian, then the character was going to be Moldovan?, then he was Christo from Albania on a few videos, and wound up Kazakh (which I suspect is ~ Cossack in SBC’s mind).
The Republican lunch was frightening.
I’m glad the dinner party hostess finally kicked him out.
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He sure did! Made Cohen look like a mental midget, and I’m sure it burns Cohen to this day, lol.
Think Chuck Lorre and ‘Two and a Half Men.’
True, but Chuck then redeemed himself with Big Bang Theory, which is an admirable mass market sitcom.
Maybe Jewish humour is too intellectual for me, but the most it gives me is a grin. On the other hand, the British, the Italian, the African, the Asian, with whom I cannot be suspected to have some ethnic or cultural affinity, or the French, the Russian, with whom I admit having a cultural affinity, make me wholeheartedly laugh. Self-derision makes all the difference. Even the Germans seem to have more sense for it than Jews. You can mock every people’s sacred cows. You don’t mock Jewish sacred cows. It’s anti-semitism.
Funny, Charlie Sheen’s character in Two and Half Men inspires me sympathy. I occasionally watch an episode or two when I’m having difficulty falling asleep at night. All the characters in the BBT inspire me deep antipathy. I can’t watch a minute of the show without wanting to puick. I guess we are culturally more different than what the MSM would make us believe.
Also, I wholeheartedly supported the French b&w team at the WC and I loathe fascists like Croatians. I guess detesting comlunists, the LGBT, the “progressives” and self-hating whites in general doesn’t make one a “white supremacist” by default after all.
What else one would expect form a Serb living in France? It is hard to transcend the programming we were subjected early in life. The same goes for SBC.
I agree with you on BBT and am really curious what does Steve Sailer see in it.
How is getting top politicians to make fools of themselves “punching down”? You clearly don’t know what that term means.
I have no idea what you’re talking about.
Even if he did do that, which I highly doubt, he was probably not five years old, and in any case he grew up during an era that was so different from today that it might as well have been the fifth century BC. The vast, vast majority of Americans in 2018 would think someone is insane/retarded for suggesting that kindergartners should practice shooting and have guns available in class at all times in order to defend themselves against an attempted mass murderer. This really isn’t complicated. If you want to run for office on this idea though, do feel free. I love watching people make fools of themselves.
Most of his comedy is contrived, but I thought his “campaigning” for James Broadwater was quite absurdly funny:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=vXuI3DqaCyw
Everything Corvinus says is off topic but irrelevant.
The characters are basically knee-jerk liberals. But they’re portrayed as being shallow, not very intelligent, status-signalling, conformist, with no actual opinions of their own. These characters are people who have never had an original thought in their lives. They believe whatever everyone else in their social milieu believes.
We’re supposed to find them sympathetic in a pathetic sort of way but I don’t think we’re supposed to have the slightest amount of respect for them. I think we are supposed to see them as funny but contemptible.
Maybe the legal ones are worse. Most of the active nation-wrecking seems to have been undertaken by legal immigrants.
And straight Jewish men cannot punch up at all since they have the absolute maximum of privilege. Therefore straight Jewish men will have to be forbidden from practising comedy.
This will be dealt with when the government introduces stringent licensing for comedians.
In the UK Americans are regarded as having no sense of humour
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-416121/Borat-star-attacked-street-man-didnt-like-jokes.html
From 2006. This person know how to deal with SBC.
It is akin to “Crybaby Drumpf has small hands” being uproarious, peak comedy.
If those writers stay here and have kids here, their kids will resent them. “You got to get career mileage out of being foreign-born and coming to America. I had to get stuck with being born here.”
Here’s the clip of Ali G with Posh and Becks at some English fundraising comedy event.
What the hell are you talking about?? Far from being dehumanized, Muslims are close to having the status of sacred objects in our current media culture.
When did Unz.com become a Linda Sarsour rally?
“If you can have SexEd, you can have GunEd and lots of other UsefulEd. There used to be “military service”…”
Military service is part of the curriculum for military schools. Besides, do you really want high schools to become fertile recruiting grounds for the military-industrial complex and our armed forces to do the bidding for globalists in the upcoming civil war? Right, that makes sense.
That doesn’t quite ring true, since SBC chose to make Borat from a country that is actually Muslim, and give him vaguely Muslim prejudices, although according to his own description in his country “follow the hawk.”
Borat is simply not a send-up of Christian Slavs.
“Bingo. The American hosts, as usual, were trying to be polite, fair and welcoming–to give the foreign guy a chance, in the hope that this would reflect well on them and their country.”
Right, by having a platform to bamboozle the American public into believing it is smart to arm 5 year-olds.
Actually there were – Dzigan and Schumacher were a well known (in Jewish circles) duo who had a famous sketch called “Einstein Weinstein” that played a lot like “Who’s On First”. They escaped the Germans and the Russians and ended up in Israel where they continued their work. They did a lot of “ripped from the headlines” humor and did not hesitate to poke fun at their fellow Jews.
Or 11-year old Brutusale running around in the woods with a .22.
When I went to the National FFA Convention in Kansas City as a high schooler in 1996 the NRA had a booth on the convention floor. I wonder if they would today.
That’s how I remember it. In the first season or two Marcy was an uptight yuppie Republican who kept her kinks in the closet. By the end of the series she was a more attractive Andrea Dworkin.
I have a pet peeve about this subject. We appropriated the word “America” or “American” to refer to a citizen of the US when in fact the use of the word is totally inaccurate, if not illogical. Technically, citizens of Argentina and Canada are as much “Americans” as citizens of the United States or Mexico, just as in the same fashion citizens of Poland, Germany, Greece etal. are all “Europeans”. One may speak of a person being a citizen of Poland, Germany or Greece–not as a citizen of “Europe.” For the same reason, one may speak of a person being a citizen of the United States, not “America.”
Europe and America are geographic entities–not political–with America divided into North “America” and South “America.” Because of centuries of linguistic laziness , the terms “America” and “United States” have been conflated to the point that they mean the same thing. Nada!
The first seven words of the Preamble to the Constitution are “We, the People of the UNITED STATES…”, not “America” or even “the United States of America” (the latter which appears in the Pledge of Allegiance). The US Constitution recognizes two kinds of citizenship : 1.) Foreign-born and subsequently naturalized in accordance with the law (i.e. my own parents) 2.) Native born (i.e. moi). Both are citizens of the United States, not “America.” The word “America” (bestowed in honor of the Italian explorer, Amerigo Vespucci, by German cartographer Martin Waldseemuller) was originally intended to represent a geographic locale, NOT a political entity. However, because it is too awkward, not to mention grammatically incorrect, to say that so-and-so is a “United Statesian”, we use the geographic term “American” as a type of shorthand to refer to a person born or naturalized within a political entity known as the “United States”. It makes no sense but, alas, the term is here to stay.
I’m picturing a Korean who was also kangs and shit…
You didn’t see that scene in the movie, because it wasn’t in it, it was from the aforementioned Da Ali G show in which Borat and Bruno were secondary characters. The scene also wasn’t in the Deep South either, but in Tucson, Arizona. The owner of the bar was later interviewed and said that they played up the fun of singing with him for the cameras, because the first time he sang it, know one joined in, she also mentioned she was part Jewish.
“Maybe he knows the same as the rest of us, which is very little.”
Actually, we know quite a lot in the last year and a half. And I believe Mr. Sailer does know more, a LOT more, but he is not saying anything. Which, to me, is telling.
“Except for you, of course.”
It’s called NOTICING. Try it sometime.
22 Forbes > Slate really is unreadable…
iSteve studies it closely
he thinks that’s a more productive way to use his time than (e.g.) moving to a de-facto all-white community in (e.g.) South Dakota
==that== is how New York Jews are able to retain control of Hollywood…. the self-induced paralysis of the White intellectual
elites
Which… is kinda true, isn’t it? That’s why the joke works.
What other description would Miss Kang apply to places like Iraq, Afghanistan and the West Bank?
“Maybe he doesn’t want to make a lot of wild speculation about rumours?”
That’s patently false, as we have indictments and mounting evidence. This case is epically nuanced, with all sorts of twists and turns, for the special prosecutor and his team of attorneys to sort through.
53 Achilles > it seems like Jewish humor rises to its best when generated in the midst of Christian or Christian-legacy western civilization
and what, pray tell, is your expertise which allows you to denigrate the “standup club” scene in Tel Aviv?
I’m not a “gun banner,” you idiot, nor need one be a gun banner to acknowledge that what SBC has done here is good for the cause of gun control.
“Leave out the firearms training. Everything else is fine.”
Ignorance is Strength. Leftists love that.
Civilian Marksmanship has been approved by the US government for a century and the Federal government will sell you a Combat Rifle to engage in it. And yeah, they will even sell you M1911A1 .45ACP pistols (8,000/year).
http://thecmp.org/
“Here are just a few examples of kids using guns to defend themselves and their families (I’m too busy to blog consistently — IF I HAVE MISSED ANY STORIES PLEASE CONTACT ME):
UPDATE: 12/13/2017: Teen shoots threatening mountain lion while deer hunting
UPDATE: 7/4/2017: Armed 11-year-old boy saves fishing party from charging bear
UPDATE: 11/19/2016: Son disarms intruding sex offender and shoots intruder with his own gun
UPDATE: 8/12/2016: 15 yr old boy shoots burglar in leg with shotgun
UPDATE: 8/2/2016: 13 yr old Girl Uses Rifle to Save Sister and Self from Intruders
UPDATE: 4/17/2016: 17-year old boy shoots, kills man attacking father with wood saw
UPDATE: 3/23/2016: 15 yr old boy scares off burglars with rifle
UPDATE: 3/22/2016: 14 yr old girl shot by home invaders, shoots back
UPDATE: 11/12/2015: 13 yr old boy shoots/kills burglar: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/11/11/authorities-say-south-carolina-teen-used-mother-gun-to-kill-burglar/?intcmp=trending
UPDATE: 9/3/2015: 11 yr old defends self and 4 yr old sister, shoots and kills 16 yr old burglary suspect who gained access to home on third attempt along with another 22 yr old suspect:
http://www.kmov.com/story/29955714/child-11-kills-home-invasion-suspect-in-north-st-louis-county
[...]
https://lawnews.tv/examples-of-kids-using-guns-to-defend-themselves/
We are led to believe that Ali Wong is supposed to be the next comedy genius.
As if watching a foul-mouthed Asian woman describe her bizarre life is the height of laughs.
Someone (Charles Murray, I think) tweeted on Monday that the NYT appears to be being paid to write fodder for Steve.
In the “truth is stranger than fiction”, alleged comedian Trevor Noah is in hot water for a monologue in which he essentially stated that the French World Cup team is really just African in white face.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/french-ambassador-slams-trevor-noah-for-saying-africa-won-world-cup
It’s true – after a while, any revolution begins to eat its own.
OK. One thing that bugged me (somewhat) about The Borat movie: This guy is supposed to be a completely backwards foreigner who doesn’t understand America at all…yet he knows enough to have people sign release forms and other legal documents? How did that not raise any suspicions?
A few years back, I was going to a show in NYC and got stopped by “Billy on the Street” and given a few dollars to tell Jason Bateman to “Just give it up”. After I made the statement, I was then asked by a Producer (I guess?) to sign some release forms. We wound up talking about Borat and she agreed with that point.
Whatever Inkoo Kang might think, he or she is not an American.
Isn’t it already?
https://truthout.org/articles/why-is-my-kindergartner-being-groomed-for-the-military-at-school/
Nah, it doesn’t matter. This kind of wacky stuff is likely demoralizing to gun-control types. Brett Kavanaugh is due to be confirmed, Ginsburg is standing by for departure. When the ‘gun nuts’ are winning the Supreme Court, what are the gun controllers gonna do, take up arms ? LOL.
Right, “Assad the war criminal” is a laughable lie that has no more currency outside the chattering class than “Russian interference in the election,” but this is still important because it scientifically rubbishes the main warmongering claim, and does so from an objective third party source.
It’s interesting that the point Noah is making is substantially the same point the rest of the Wurlitzer is making about the same story (France won because Africans are our superiors; having borders means never winning a soccer game again), but, unforgivably, Noah is putting an identitarian spin on what has been ordained as a globalist point. Notice the continuity: claims of simple racial superiority are not hypocritical or contradictory to the overall globalist message so long as they are pseudo-subtle, presented visibly in background or subtext, but not explicitly pointed up. Noah’s team (as it were) won, and the most natural thing in the world would be good natured gloating, but the Wurlitzer is worried that doing it too crudely might wake people up.
There exists video of a lethal chemical weapon use in Syria. It’s of a Salafist mishandling the American chemical weapons he was given by the Saudi royal family. It circulated pretty widely on the alternative media years ago but the “real media” has said nothing about it, no doubt out of respect for the shahiyd’s family. Democracy, and the martyrs of Allah, die in darkness.
“write fodder for Steve”
Steve columns contain influence from Carroll Quigley and Tom Wolfe filtered through a New York Times lens. His gentle humor takes some edge off of all that noticing.
I can see you’ve got the whole youtube-embed thing down now, Johnny. I agree this is one funny guy – I most liked hist talk in front of that AZ GOP club, and then this national anthem at the rodeo.
It takes a lot of guts to do these jokes. If Borat hasn’t gotten his ass kicked on camera yet, I think the American people deserve a large round of applause for their restraint, or he has just been lucky as hell.
(I don’t mean an ass-kicking in cold-blood. I just would have figured someone along the way would have just decided to kick his ass on the fly.)
There are cures for not knowing what people are talking about. Andrew Carnegie (who, just to let you know, is even older than Antonin Scalia) has suggestions for what they are.
Unreal.
Of course, this makes me wonder which of the things I unthinkingly assume are true are known with absolute certainty to be false by people 30 years older than I am. And how long has knowledge been being destroyed in this way? Forever? Since you-know-who took over the means of propaganda?
https://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/forums/europe-scandinavia-the-nordics/topics/swedish-jokes
Yeah, Swedes.
Muslims in America or Europe or history.
That must be why hillbilly jokes are so outre.
LOL “That’s it; I’m done.”
He seems to be able to pick on any side if it’ll end up funny. I appreciate that, even if he’s one-sided in his own views. I’d never seen this quick clip before, so thanks, P.M.
Actually, what I think Noah is doing is subtly different. He is (in his own way) making the same point that people on the right are: that the “French” team is hardly French.
This is different from singing the praises of a multicultural France enriched by immigration, which is what the Max Boots of the world are saying.
One says “look at the glorious, blended FRENCH soccer team. Isn’t immigration great?”
The other says, “people who claim that ‘France’ won the cup ignore that there is nothing FRENCH about a bunch of black Africans who were more or less imported and put into blue maillots.”
Noah would never admit it, but his actual point was made by John Derbyshire, albeit in better prose.
What I liked was how all the small stories about each of those 4 characters would come together at the end in a lot of these shows. It makes you wonder how they went about writing them. Do you start from the end? That was the trip to India episode, actually. I won’t spoil the beginning for you.
I don’t think this will change for me at this point, especially due to my never watching a thing from Hollywood anymore, but the 2 funniest shows of ALL TIME are Seinfeld and The Office. One has NYC Jewish kind of humor with NYC Jewish (partly) characters and writers, while the other is far from it (not sure about the writers, though).
Actually, I have left France due to personal reasons a year ago and am currently back in Serbia. However, in spite of the French educational system being designed to bring up politically correct brinwashedcliberals, I am firmly rightwing and consider that one of the reasons liberals are so keen on mass immigration, in France and in other Western countries, is because that’s how they get voters to win elections. That said, France has a colonial past that cannot be ignored and that has to be assumed. I promise you, the blacks in French sports teams do feel French, even more French than many self-hating white “progressive” French natives. Many even are conscious of and hate the fact that they’re being played as useful idiots by the globalist mob.
Regarding Croats, before the war, I had quite a few Croat acquaintances. Then the war started and while I tried to maintain dialogue with them, their behaviour disgusted me. As one example, the woman who was the official translator in the ICTY in the Hague was a regular guest at my home, once for dinner during the siege of Vukovar, of all times. Well, I have seen that woman with my own eyes translating statements by Serbs in the tribunal or before journalists in such a way that what they said got completely lost in the translation. I saw her direct live put words in their mouths they never said. The thing is most Croats are like that. They were best described by a Serb general from WWI, Živojin Mišić who strongly advised then King of Serbia Alexander Karadjordjevic against incorporating them in a new post-war state. Western powers, especially France, had other plans.
I would have supported France against any other team but to be true, if France hadn’t been in the final and Croatia played against some other team, I would have turned off my TV after the Wimbledon final. I have reacted to the comments here because reducing the thing to “Africa passing as France” vs “good white Croatian Europeans” is a gross misrepresentation that has more to do with ideology than reality. It irks me because I believe that the ideological rather than realistic approach is a trademark of leftist idiocy, and it is something that I don’t expect of the more intelligent right.
Regarding BBT, thank you for making me feel less like an alien for disliking it.
We didn’t appropriate it. Just about everyone in the world calls us by that name.
I doubt Baron Cohen makes a distinction between Russians and Steppe Turks.
At 3.44 one can hear Kalinka playing.
In any case it is quite clear Borat is based on stereotypes of East European backwardness.
A) “United-Statian” doesn’t present any sort of grammar problem. Mencken just proposed “Uessian”.
B) you … could get a name. You could also break up into parts with names – for better or worse.
C) it was taught until recently in the US that “America” was 1 continent, not even 2 – which is easiest for the Monroe Doctrine to be used to justify controlling “South America”.
And thanks for the sanity.
It’s the kind of wishful thinking a gun banner would say.
Hard to find a better example of punching down. Broadwater won 1.2% of the GOP gubernatorial primary vote – dead last in a field of 5 candidates. https://ballotpedia.org/James_Broadwater
Because ours is the America that matters.
Stephen Colbert and Jimmy Kimmel try to do the same thing, as well. I won’t feel bad for them when they lose their jobs to an Aziz Ansari or a Trevor Noah.
“(…) it’s also premised on the idea that there are “shithole countries” that primarily exist to bolster our own sense of national and cultural superiority. Twelve years later, we have higher standards for what counts as politically useful comedy.”
Uh, I was expecting the writer to reassure us that 12 years later the premise is no longer valid. So, are there still shithole countries? If Kazakhstan is a shithole, how do we describe Haiti, which is 100 times worse?
True, this is being overlooked. Apparently in the new series he also impersonates a stereotypical NPR liberal.
Is there any episode of Seinfeld or Curb Your Enthusiasm that is not set into motion by a person of a certain background telling lies of increasing size to get out of something he did? Lying to get out of trouble in Seinfeld is what fisticuffs are in the cinema of Bruce Lee.
This is about what I meant, Noah (operating on outdated rules) was unintentionally sabotaging their utopian moment.
I don’t care about punching down or up. Funny is funny. Even when it is at my expense.
Read his comments. He is denying French ethnic identity (even people of African ancestry can be French) while leaving intact black racial identity.
In 1970′s I have watched “Occupation in 26 Pictures” and since then I always looked at Croats with some reservations. I spent vacation there once but found them not too friendly. I have friends who are mixed Serb-Croat marriage that managed to survive the war in Yugoslavia but we do not talk politics much. And recently when Croatian football players began to express anti-Russian and pro-Ukrainian attitudes I found it really stupid and primitive. Why should they care?
As far as France and her African citizens I can see what you describing, however, if it continues the France as we know it will be over regardless how French the African feel.
If you’re not hip, then many others aren’t either. I know a number of people including ((())) who refused to see Borat because of the way he snookers people into acting like they agree with him on everything, when maybe they’re just trying to be polite to him, and that’s not their real view at all.
I’ve never seen it because it didn’t interest me, rather than becausr of any moral qualms, but I admit SBC did good work in Les Mis.
You couldn’t tell that Cohen was a dick from Borat?
Why you no rike?
Every chop-’em-up on Kung Fu Theatre is pretty damn funny.
Well, of course the first time that Cohen speaks in that clip he’s speaking Polish: “How are you?,” with a poor accent if I may say. And of course the Cyrillic characters shown are nonsense combinations of letters that someone thought looked cool and foreign. When I first saw the teasers from that film back in the day, it drove me into a depression, because it really did have a negative effect on international relations. And it was so blatantly stupid. With good reason, the KZ reaction was WTF, don’t the supposedly enlightened people in the US realize that this is insane, and has no bearing on reality?
I’ve been there and the Kazakhs are really a wonderful people. The US embassy in Astana is across the street from a big mosque built by the Saudis — and that’s kind of odd to experience — but the majority of ethnic, educated Kazakhs are very secular and highly educated. They’ve been to very good English and American schools.
What? Aren’t Jewish comedians famous for self-derision?
Isn’t that Woody Allen’s whole schtick? Or Larry David’s?
Contrary to what someone may conclude from the appearance of French sports teams, France is still a majority white European country. The problem is the incessant zionist media propaganda about “white guilt”. Young French have to be taught to be proud of their country again, they should be taught of all the great things their white Europeans ancestors achieved and which are visible virtually everywhere you step foot in the country.
Instead, they are constantly repeated that the Right is nazi collaborationist and that the Left has resisted, which is a shameless inversion of Historical truth since the first resistants were descendants of small nobility while the communists waited for instructions from comrade Stalin and while the French Assembly that gave full powers to Pétain was majority socialist.
In short, they need to learn the truth about themselves and get rid of the idiotic imaginary guilt the Left has imposed upon them. For that, they need to understand that the Left has only two goals: attain power then stay in power. And if that means importing half of Africa to vote for them, so be it. The fight against Christianity, the propaganda of Islam, LGBT perversions are all part of the strategy. You don’t imagine how schocked the liberal pundits in France were when they discovered the fact that the majority of the French team, including the majority of the “coloured” in the French team were actually openly Christian.
So you see, when you scratch a little under the surface, things aren’t quite as the media left and right present them. All the problems that Frances faces because of “progressive” idiots don’t change the fact that France fielded a team that was by any measure more French than the Swiss was Swiss or the German was German. As for Croatia, goalie Subašić’s father is Serbian, the WC MVP Modrić’s mother too, but they’re Croats first, so why can’t Blaise Matuidi be French first, because he’s of the wrong colour?
I’d probably agree. I used to say that The Simpsons and Seinfeld were my favorite sitcoms, but I find that I’d much rather watch reruns of Seinfeld than The Simpsons.
For me anyway, Seinfeld has stood the test of time much better than a lot of other sitcoms from the ’80s and ’90s. I didn’t really watch Seinfeld while it was on the air – I was too young – yet here in 2018, it’s my favorite sitcom.
And The Office is probably a worthy second, although I would definitely put Seinfeld ahead of it.
I’ve been told that Arrested Development is excellent, but I’ve only ever seen a couple episodes.
The proprietor at Heartiste seems to think Borat was funny too, and he didn’t recognize SBC’s jew supremacism yet back then. I don’t know how anyone could have missed it… the movie wasn’t your normal crypto-racist pablum. It dripped with contempt for pretty much everyone who is not a part of that delightful race loved by everyone but mentally ill and evil people.
There are some curious similarities between Two and a Half Men and The Big Bang Theory.
Getting drunk and making a fool of yourself at a public function, and saying “I love you” to a person who doesn’t reciprocate are two very noticeable ones, as is the undercurrent of mocking hostility to Christianity and the assumption that everyone knows about Jewish things — for example, in one episode of TBBT, Sheldon, supposedly raised in an evangelical Christian household in east Texas, breaks out in a Jewish folk song. How would he have been exposed to that?
But there are others that make me wonder: Where are the fathers in both shows? When Penny’s dad shows up in an episode or two of TBBT, Leonard is afraid of him. Otherwise, fathers play no role in the series as far as I can recall. In TaaHM, the father is dead and scarcely mentioned.
Mothers, on the other hand, play significant roles. The mother in TaaHM is an overbearing, domineering ball-buster who, ISTM, is obviously Jewish, using words like “schlep,” for example, although in one episode she says that she “raised” her sons to be Episcopalian, which seems to be the denomination Jews think is high class or something.
Alan’s wife Judith is also a domineering ball-buster who comes across as stereotypically Jewish to me. Both male characters are manipulated, crushed and often humiliated by their relationships with women. The only thing they really want from them is sex and they put up with all manner of humiliations to get it, which, frankly, I find contemptible.
In TBBT, Leonard’s mother is of the same type, though worse, if possible, and also emits a Jewish vibe, at least to me. Howard’s mother is also domineering. Rajesh’s mother also appears to intimidate his father.
Bernadette also bosses Howard around, and although clearly depicted as a Catholic, seems to behave the same as the apparently Jewish other women in the series. Amy also appears the dominant personality in her relationship with Sheldon.
The only exceptions to the awful women seem to be Sheldon’s mother, somewhat bossy but kind-hearted and sensible (and clearly not Jewish), and Penny, the fantasy shiksa love interest, who is pretty and pleasant but stupid. Initially, she is depicted as friendly but unavailable, directing her attention to macho studs. Yet somehow she becomes involved with nerd Leonard, although then it turns out she is a heavy drinker and in other ways not all that much of a dream girl after all.
I’ve only watched some of the earlier episodes of both series, so maybe the shows evolved, or maybe I missed some important things. But that’s the impression the shows gave me. And that’s why I stopped watching them. The world and the people in it they depicted was not only just too alien from mine, but too unpleasant. I like the song “Jesus Take the Wheel,” (mocked in an episode of TBBT), Christmas is my favorite holiday, Christianity is the comfortable and reassuring background to my life, I love my mom and dad dearly and can’t imagine being treated by either of them the way the characters in these two shows are by theirs. I don’t know anybody like the people in those shows and should I meet any like them I would make it a point to avoid having anything to do with them.
So I don’t get why these shows are popular and so highly acclaimed.
As I wrote, they operate on a level that is waaay too intellectual for me. I fail to catch the subtlety of “I’m supersmart and misunderstood and it is unfair that big-boobed-blondes prefer athletical bodies to my athletic mind, so in spite (or because) of me being a genius, I’m sexually frustrated and my Jewish mom wants to marry me with my cousin”. I’m more of a Monty Python guy.
Blaise Matuidi being French is not the same as Subašić being Croatian. Consequences for Croatia and France are different.
And yes it comes to the skin color (all external phenotype) differences. Subašić’ can practice successful mimicry that would lead to a complete assimilation. Matuidi can’t practice mimicry and will remain different. Sooner or later he will join or be used by some ethnic identity politics which will have detrimental effect on French society. This is very unlikely to happen in case of Subašić.
duncsbaby says: “Everything Corvinus says is off topic but irrelevant.”
And such small portions.
Muslims only have that sacred status if they live in the West and can therefore be used as a weapon against white Christian society. They’re not regarded as sacred, merely as useful in the short term.
Muslims who actually live in their own countries are regarded in our current media culture as subhumans who should be bombed into oblivion.
So on balance I think it’s fair to say that our current media culture does dehumanise Muslims.
Divide and rule.
Right. “I’m super smart and misunderstood and treated unfairly” is so self deprecating.
Do Jews ever outright mock their lack of athleticism or their other less endearing attributes, in a similar way that they mock others for allegedly being stupid, ignorant, or brutes?
You’re right, Matuidi can be accepted as French without reneging on his origins, just as I have been accepted as French without reneging on mine. Actually, Matuidi, Varane, Tolisso, Umtiti are already assimilated as French. On the other hand, Subašić can be accepted as a Croat only if he spits on his Serbian origins. So you get indeed a homogenuous society of assimilated apostates, the kind Igor Šafarevič described in his books. You get newspeak, thoughtcrime, eugenics. You get societies from which diversity of thought is banished. You get societies where only the devil is allowed to speak and when the devil speaks, you know it’s lies.
As for identity politics, who carries them? Cultural marxists, zionist Jews, and their useful idiots, radical islam, the LGBT, and brainwashed liberals, whose Christ-derangement syndrome is so strong that they felt compelled to express their unease at some France’s black players embrace of Christianity, In short, they are people who don’t belong to the societies they wan’t to destroy. Identity politics may work among US Christians who apparently have great difficulty in understanding the gospels, but I promise you all that identity bullshit you see in Europe isn’t European at its core, it’s ZUSA agents created and zionist financed. And when you see real hate speech, chances are those folks are behind it. On the other hand, sound interrogation of History is forbidden by law because any questioning has to be labelled as fascist.
On the other hand, if Europeans wake up and realise they’re being led to disaster, if they drop pagan mythologies that they’re served as national cultures and return to their Christian roots, identity politics are gone.
I have chosen my side in the fight and it is the side of an open Christian Europe, it is not against black Christian people who came from former colonies, it is against a judeo-masonic controlled chaos of warring communities. My side may not be the winning side in the short term but it is the side of Prince Myshkin and Alyocha rather than Ivan Karamazov or Smerdiakov and I believe it is the side of Truth. Traditional France with all her Caribbean and African guys is far closer to that side than Croatia or Ukraine.
A Veteran Day’s survey is NOT recruitment. It was merely a classroom activity by which the teacher had discussed each branch with the students and they responded with what they thought would be most interesting to them. Context matters here.
I understand and respect your position. It is philosophically consistent and very solid. But I have a problem of accepting it because it may lead to the death of Europe. Will the Alyochas of this world be able to oppose the Smerdiakovs of this world? What if Matuidi is just a tool in the hands of Smerdiakov? And when given an opportunity he will lead a divisive ethnic identity movement that will destroy everything what France suppose to send for? He might be not Alyosha but Black nationalist. Should Europe be open to all Christians? How many more Christians are there in Africa?
Racial differences are real and always lead to divisions and Christianity is not strong enough anymore to be able to prevent these divisions.