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Doesn’t this popular argument imply that it’s extremely damaging for college educated mothers to go back to work and turn raising their children over to Guatelombian babysitters who barely speak English?

I’ve never seen anybody follow up on that obvious implication.

On a wholly separate note, it’s interesting to read the acknowledgements in The Bell Curve and notice who is thanked first.

 
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  1. Prof. Heckman and Jared Diamond show what amazing sophistry and personal profit and glory can come from initial premises taken entirely on faith: That IQ is not heritable and certainly does not vary by race.

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  2. Mothers with money hire nannies with degrees to watch their young children. When I used to take my little ones to story time at the Granite Bay Library, there’d be all these young white women with toddlers in tow. Wow, I’d think, what did these women do to achieve so much so young? Then I talked with them and discovered they were all nannies for the doctors and bankers of Granite Bay.

    From the other side, I’ve known several women who worked as nannies. They either had graduated from college or were taking college classes. The child care workers from the 3rd world are working in day cares.

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  3. Cortes says:

    Isn’t it the other way round?

    The more monied have down-to-earth “help” who enable Tarquinius Superbugs II to develop at a remove from his parents. Or was “The Sound of Music” just a travesty?

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  4. GP100 says:

    Steve-
    My wife stayed home with our children. They are all doing great and they didn’t go to any “early childhood education”. Of course this is… Privilege! We chose a smaller home, a beater van vacation at grandparents not Disney. Real Privilege!

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  5. Not Raul says:
    @stillCARealist

    Meg Whitman hired a Guatelombian to watch her sons.

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  6. Coemgen says:

    Yeah, but that’s like opining that maybe a woman’s use of birth control pills could possibly be linked to autism, peanut allergies, etc. in her breast-fed or yet-to-be born children.

    That is, it’s likely to get the opiner mau-maued (mao-maoed?).

    Aside, all the (globalist) criticism of Trump’s Whitehouse makes me think of the Asian pilots who used to crash their planes so often due to the highly decorous and authoritarian relationship between the pilot and inferior co-pilot. I’d much rather have a co-pilot who can yell at the pilot and, cause the plane to not crash, than have a perfectly decorous crash.

    Another aside, shouldn’t Democrats and their ilk be forced, repeatedly, to denounce globalism in all its forms.

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  7. Hail says: • Website

    birth-to-five education

    Reminiscent, to me, of

    “Playing this Mozart CD gives your baby a+5 IQ-point bonus,”

    widely believed circa the 1990s.

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  8. Lugash says:
    @stillCARealist

    From what I’ve noticed in my area, it splits between the upper and upper-middle classes. The upper classes want a more or less full time resident in their house, which is usually a young, childless white woman. UMC want someone who will be there during the day, which is a Mestiza who needs to go back to her own kids ion the evening.

    Mashing this thread with the last one: A researcher with access to an Alexa’s raw audio stream and AI could probably mine some interesting nuggets other than word count. And without the need for a dozen graduate students.

    Semi OT: I’ve noticed a large uptick in black women using video chatting apps over the last year or so. One of the use cases seems to be checking on the Baby Daddy watching junior at home.

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  9. songbird says:

    This is honestly such a BS argument. Perhaps, the most strikingly stupid environmental argument after the generalist hoodoo claim of racism. Worse even than bad schools.

    Do these kids have a TV or radio in the house? What about the kids from big families? Does a fifth child have an normal IQ from all the other kids talking?

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  10. One of the things notable about the left-establishment ideology is that the various pieces of it are in contradiction with one another. I.e. it’s incoherent. (Environmentalism and pretty much everything on the agenda around diversity and immigration are an example.)

    I will say that in this case, a lot of good-white moms actually do sort of seem to believe it. They will make some effort to see that their child has “enrichment”–from the Baby Einstein stuff to pre-school. They just don’t believe it seriously enough to stay home with their kids to give them what would be top quality nurturing … because that would interfere with their own self-image and status!

    But some are “conflicted” about that ;-)

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  11. Ibound1 says:

    The gap starts at conception …. of all your ancestors.

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  12. Provided that Guatelombian nanny isn’t with your kid all the time, she could help your kid grow up bilingual, which is a good thing.

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  13. Very OT, re WW T–Conchita Wurst of Eurovision fame seems to have roided up, she’s a he now and envisions a career as a man, ponder that.

    (German)

    https://www.gmx.net/magazine/unterhaltung/musik/conchita-wurst-befremdlich-nennt-33152218

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  14. Guatelombian

    You’ve just de-validated the five nations in-between.

    That aside, it just shows we have to redouble our efforts to close the Darien Gap.

    Doesn’t this popular argument imply that it’s extremely damaging for college educated mothers to go back to work and turn raising their children over to Guatelombian babysitters who barely speak English?

    Well, the children of the white intelligentsia are the source of the problem, aren’t they? So this would bring them down to size.

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  15. goatweed says:

    With each new grandchild, the the DIL should be given a CD 1st gk Mozart, 2nd gk Moody Blues, 3rd gk Devo, 4th Keko Matsui (sp?) 5th gk Taylor Swift.

    Should the results be in when the 5th gk is five?

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  16. trelane says:

    Who was thanked first in The Bell Curve acknowledgments? Richard Lynn? Rushton? Richard Nixon?

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  17. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    We need to even things out.

    Jews and blacks should swap babies. Jews raise black kids, and blacks raise Jewish kids.

    That’d be fun idea for a movie.

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  18. Lot says:
    @theo the kraut

    It’s Gay Jesus!

    That’s not really roided up though.

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  19. Trevor H. says:
    @AnotherDad

    This whole business is going to be used as an excuse for even more government interference in child raising. Remember the bit just the other day about how racist it is to try and help your own children (if you are white).

    This is going to be used as another excuse for compulsory government-sponsored child care from infancy onward. Hillary was already on board with it. Your average immigrant mom is going to think it’s heaven-sent. After all…it takes a village.

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  20. Trevor H. says:
    @International Jew

    Or, maybe if she spends enough time with your kids, they’ll grow up proficient in Spanish only. Think what a benefit that will be for them in the America of 2040.

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  21. AnonAnon says:
    @stillCARealist

    College degree in what and from what schools? Child Development from some third tier state school? BFD. There is still a big disconnect between the mom’s IQ and the nanny’s. Most nannies make crap money since rich people are often cheap. In wealthy Manhattan Beach, CA I only ever ran into Mexican nannies blabbing in Spanish while their white charges sat in strollers bored out of their minds. It only cemented my desire to be home with my kids as soon as we could swing it. The big daycare center we used for less than a year hired Americans with degrees or working on their degrees. After our terrible experience there we switched to a home-based provider, which is what I’d absolutely recommend to anyone if they didn’t want a nanny. Ours lived in a pricier house than ours and ran a tight ship. I think a good, small home-based provider is the closest your kid will get to being home with mom, and if you’re a woman wanting to stay home with your kids watching an extra few is a way to make some very good money. I enjoyed being home with my kids so much I might even volunteer to watch my grandkids. On a related tangent, IMO one of the reasons so many young people are overly sensitive or wacko snowflakes these days are because their parents parked them in daycare too much.

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  22. Anon[772] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s a slightly different thing than the child vocabulary point in that graph, but there have been studies on the number of words that a child is exposed to. Black children, supposedly, are exposed to less speaking and reading and the like. This led to suggestions of training for black mothers (and in those rare circumstances, fathers) to jive it up more in front of the kid. This apparently works really, really well, according to some mysterious study out of Jamaica.

    But there is backlash that this consitututes a criticism of black culture, that it’s blaming the victim, or at least the parents of the victim. The real problem is whitey doing intellectual genocide on vibrant folks using some kind of magic spell.

    At any rate, it has been heartening to me to see how this “exposure to daily words” theory has collapsed in the last couple of years, lack of replication, challenges to the basic facts and to the research protocols, and so on. It’s nice to see BS research eaten from the inside by other researchers, rather than just from outside critics.

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  23. @Hail

    Reminiscent, to me, of
    “Playing this Mozart CD gives your baby a+5 IQ-point bonus,”
    widely believed circa the 1990s.

    Hey man, the spoiler adds +10 hp.

    And just wait ’til the VTEC kicks in yo!

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  24. The mother has to speak all 1,100 words, but not necessarily to the child. Speaking them to law clients is fine. Speaking them into a mike at the drive-in window appears not to have the same effect, however. Probably because those dumb poor people don’t expose their kids to enough diversity, but more studies are needed before we’ll understand exactly how the data reinforce our assumptions.

    If she could only get up to 10,000 words, the kid would ascend bodily into Harvard, to sit at the right hand of the finance committee.

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  25. @Anon

    Black children, supposedly, are exposed to less speaking…

    Somebody’s never ridden on a city bus.

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  26. anon[133] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hail

    That’s our modern scientific age for you. Once upon a time, it would have taken dozens or even hundreds of years for such a superstition to develop, spread, and then be discarded; with the scientific method, the process is dramatically accelerated so that now we can have entirely new superstitions every twenty years or so.

    (A superstition, for the humourless, being defined here as “something everybody believes despite having no idea whether it’s true or not”.)

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  27. Anon7 says:
    @stillCARealist

    Depends on the situation. I know a number of doctor-married-to-doctor couples, and since they both work sixty hour weeks, they need to hire sixty hours per week childcare, and that gets you to Chinese women. With limited English, limited education, and in at least one case that I know about, limited sanity (she had a psychotic break after coming back from China on vacation… and she spent years alone with their children 60+ hours per week? Yikes.)

    My wife and I arranged our schedules so we needed minimal childcare for after school. I personally interviewed and hired our baby sitters, preferring pretty legacy American college girls attending our local university ranked in the top 20 in the world (they’re really picky about who they let in). I’m happy to say that the last three we had working for us married within a year or two after leaving our service and quickly started families of their own. Natural moms. I have a sixth sense.

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  28. Anon7 says:

    Haven’t studies shown that pre-k ed doesn’t work for anyone but black kids from the worst backgrounds and everybody ends up where you’d expect anyway?

    I think that pre-k programs are a euphemism for universal 0-18 free childcare, so unwed mothers with no education and no plan for their lives can drop their newborns off at a state nursery and go back to banging felons on the public dime just like they’ve been doing. My 2 cents.

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  29. Anon[364] • Disclaimer says:

    “Jews and blacks should swap babies. Jews raise black kids, and blacks raise Jewish kids.”

    That study has already been done, but with Koreans and Europeans. Guess what? The adopted baby took on the IQ of his/her native land and not his adopted country.

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  30. Anon[171] • Disclaimer says:

    What is being observed here is a difference between two different groups. The promoter then assumes – incorrectly – that reducing the measured difference under study will then reduce other differences, specifically achievement gaps. This does not necessarily follow by logical consequence. For example, the amount of water a gardener gives to different plants – let’s say an almond tree vs. a petunia – may differ significantly. However, watering one as much as the other will never produce a petunia as tall as an almond tree – never, not unless we underwater the higher-growing one. This is why so many of these scams fail: they make assumptions about possible outcomes that are not logically connected with their causes. An almond tree and a petunia can have their growths stunted by lack of water, but the ultimate relative difference between the two is mainly genetic. Likewise, better education of black kids may very well cause them to do better – perhaps even raise their IQs marginally – but it will not necessarily close the achievement gap between them and other groups as there are other factors involved. What is so hard to understand about this basic logic that escapes guys like this? Are they just being purposely obtuse, maybe seeking career and fame over truth?

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  31. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @stillCARealist

    I’m not familiar with Granite Bay. The Beverly Hills playgrounds are full of kids with Hispanic nannies.

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  32. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ibound1

    Exactly.

    Read some of the 1920s to 1960 baby childcare books. Nurture is everything it’s a crime for a mom to go to work till the youngest is at least 12. The most a 3 or 4 year old can be away from Mom is 2 hours a day play school.

    Everything was tightly regulated by Mom menus eating time naps playtime and what toys.

    And then everything changed. It’s better for the kids if Mom goes back to work when the baby’s a month old. Breastfeeding is essential so take a pump and bottle to work for next days feeding. A government not private daycare center with affirmative action surly sows is far superior to a nanny at home.

    I stopped listening to expert opinion years ago.

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  33. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon7

    Right

    The studies have shown that Head Start only helps the very worst black kids. By the time they’re in second grade they are back to normal. But at least in kindergarten and first grade they know colors, know how to hold pencils and crayons and can learn the alphabet

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  34. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @International Jew

    She only speaks about 100 Spanish words. The new trend is for the kids to learn mandarin in hopes the Chinese will accept us when they take over.
    I have noticed that the kids and Hispanic nannies seem to love each other and the kids love to be cuddled by them.

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  35. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @theo the kraut

    Beautiful hair. How much testosterone does she have to take to grow a beard. And the steroids to produce those muscles.

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  36. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Or worked in an affirmative action place.

    When I was a probation officer the shrinks and psychologists had a lock on everything. All the criminals had to be tested and counseled. The reports always came back that Donte was “ non verbal”. They didn’t talk to the shrinks but motor mouthed everywhere else.

    Often they get to rambling and babbling and start bragging about all sorts of crimes they’d committed forgetting the person they were babbling at was a detective. But they froze when they met with the shrinks.

    I have utmost contempt for those scam artists. They’d see the guy and then call me up and ask me what did I want them to write in their report.
    Some science

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  37. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @songbird

    Liberals won’t admit it’s generic so they claim it’s black culture. Black culture you see, can be corrected by endless government intervention aka full employment program for liberals.

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  38. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @International Jew

    Indios and high-indio mestizos usually speak pretty poor Spanish. You want your kids learning proper Castilian or a good grade of South American Spanish, if at all.

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  39. Oops. I forgot to learn that blacks are inferior again. Real variety in topic here.

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  40. Twinkie says:
    @Anon7

    My wife and I arranged our schedules so we needed minimal childcare for after school. I personally interviewed and hired our baby sitters, preferring pretty legacy American college girls attending our local university ranked in the top 20 in the world (they’re really picky about who they let in). I’m happy to say that the last three we had working for us married within a year or two after leaving our service and quickly started families of their own. Natural moms. I have a sixth sense.

    Something in your story is a bit off unless you hired only seniors from the said college.

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  41. Here’s an anecdote from the nurture side of this topic:

    A friend on a bicycle trip in Alaska during the late 1980s stayed a few days with a family of homesteaders*, a father, mother and nine-year-old daughter.

    The nearest town was over a hundred miles away, so Mom and Dad home schooled their daughter. More to the point, they were the only human beings their daughter talked to. Nobody else lived out there but them. Aside from whoever she might have met on trips to that faraway town to buy supplies, she had lived her whole life around just those two adults.

    My friend told me how amazing the little girl was. She talked like an adult, with a vocabulary and conversational style just like an adult. She was years above any kid you would meet anywhere else. Her command of subject matter was exemplary too. There was simply no comparison between this little girl in the wilderness and other children.

    *They were homesteaders. That meant they had gone out in the wilderness, claimed a piece of land, built a home on it and lived there successfully, thereby making it legally their property. Alaska was the last place in the United States where people could do that.

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  42. @International Jew

    Provided that Guatelombian nanny isn’t with your kid all the time, she could help your kid grow up bilingual, which is a good thing.

    If you want your child to learn a second language from the nanny that is actually useful, hire a Russian au pair. It might be a good idea to start screening divorce lawyers at the same time.

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  43. The capacity to differentiate between a good attitude, bad attitude, or an indifferent attitude, contrasted with simply exclaiming “You got attitude!” is hardwired into the brains of those who show higher IQ scores later on. Aside: I read once that in Zulu, the only numbers are one, two, and many.

    It is not white privilege. It is an innate characteristic, immutable and therefore not open for debate. It is part of the white Bill of Rights, along with future time orientation and impulse control.

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  44. Anonymous[281] • Disclaimer says:
    @stillCARealist

    Maybe “Granite Bay” is a special place, but around here in my upper-middle-class-land nannies are generally immigrant or sometimes working-class white women. Some of the latter have, or more often are working on, a “college degree” but it is the sort of “college” that advertizes on television.

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  45. Anonymous[281] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Actually, 20 or even 15 years ago liberals claimed that it was culture, but now that explanation too is verboten. The only possibility allowed now is that it is racist cops, racist teachers, and racist loan officers.

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  46. @theo the kraut

    I don’t think he was ever really a she, just a slim guy who could dress up convincingly (beard apart) .

    Has a bit of a Wolfgang Gullich about him, whose photo seems to be on every climbing wall in Scandinavia.

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  47. dr kill says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    And the TV shouting 24/7/365. It’s never quiet, quite a different issue.

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  48. @JudyBlumeSussman

    Well, they probably wouldn’t get as much exposure if they admitted IQ is inheritable and varies by race.

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  49. Altai says:
    @theo the kraut

    He never claimed to be trans. Although he insisted that his stage persona of Conchita Wurst be referred to as ‘she’.

    Well he probably has to up his game now he’s been outed as HIV positive. I remember watching that Eurovision and everyone of the presenters constantly going up to him to imply how brave he was (He seemed visibly uncomfortable with this) and subtly implying (But never saying outright) that he was a transsexual. (Which he was also comfortable with) It blew my mind. They were obviously showing favouritism and lending a sense that voting for him would cause positive social change. There’s never been anything like that before or since. (Though this presenting team was particularly stupid, famously thinking opium was from China. I feel like there was a whole war about that.)

    In reality he is just a gay man who sometimes performs as a drag queen. (Did the full beard not tip anyone off to this?) And I lost €50 and Sanna Nielsen lost out on winning the Eurovision.

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  50. @Anon7

    Will you be marketing the Anon7 MRS. Degree assistance course soon?

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  51. @Hail

    We played a lot of Grateful Dead. I hope it’ll be OK. [fingers crossed].

    A bed-time lullaby (for the little or big ones):

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  52. @Trevor H.

    Indeed, Trevor, BIG ED has got a vested interest in getting ahold of the kids earlier and earlier. This type of research just supports a need for the bogus Ed Schools, which push for the requirements for all “providers” (I hate that term) to have more and more expensive pieces of paper from the schools of Ed. If they get them young, the indoctrination can start earlier and set in better.

    You are right that the Hildabeast would have been completely on board with more Gov. interference in child raising. It’s a Commie’ dream. No matter what I think about President Trump, we dodged an RPG that wonderful November day in ’16.

    At the parental level, I really wonder what parents think that struggle with the 2nd job and the juggling around of work and daycare/school/after-school is about. You say you are sacrificing your time to make all this money for the best schools and all, but then you’ve blown those most important first 5 – 10 years with your children.

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  53. @Anon

    Some of the experts are just full of it. Others have a vested interest in getting to indoctrinate the children as early as possible.

    I wonder, Mrs. #257, if you’ve ever read a book called The Nurture Assumption. It’s not about nature vs. nurture, but just about the (rectally-extracted number alert!:) 50% nurture side. It’s a pretty good book, disregarding whether one agrees with the author’s assumption that peer interactions are 95% of the nurture effect on child development (vs. parent’s effects).

    No, I don’t agree with the author, and here is my review of this 20-y/o book.

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  54. @obwandiyag

    See, if you’d have paid more attention in Head Start, he wouldn’t have to do this.

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  55. Anon7 says:
    @Twinkie

    Here’s how it works. You go after sophomores. That means they’ve managed to survive their freshman year, and are still enrolled. So now, you get them for three years, until they graduate, because we have a nice family, they get paid much better than minimum wage, and it’s easy work. They get married at 24ish, because they’re attractive, smart, nurturing young women who love being around children, and have learned basic skills like grocery shopping, doing the laundry and preparing a few basic meals.

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  56. Anon7 says:
    @Redneck farmer

    See my reply to the other comment, because now that I think about it, that’s exactly what I’ve been doing. That’s why I wanted sophomore girls, because you could put in the time to train them, and they’d be around for three years until they graduated.

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  57. bomag says:
    @Twinkie

    hired only seniors…

    I know of a few who left prestiges colleges early to start families.

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  58. @Not Raul

    And who did she hire at Ebay and HP? Americans or foreigners?

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  59. Cato says:
    @trelane

    James Heckman is the first name.

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  60. @Hail

    Oh baloney, it was just an idea, not gospel. We watched those videos repeatedly and the only mumbo jumbo was about the “possibility” of being beneficial, and that “more research” is needed.

    Who wouldn’t think that classical music is better for kids than grunge and rap (also popular at that time)? My oldest is brilliant, thank you very much, and he was saturated with Baby Mozart. Of course, you could also credit Veggie Tales or Thomas the Tank Engine. Or his father’s DNA.

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  61. Plenty of maids can read elementary English. My mother a NYC Board of Education elementary school teacher hired a sequence of maids to mind me when she was working. I clearly remember reading to one of them from a book distributed by my first-grade teacher and being corrected by the maid for my mistakes. Of course this was around 1939 and the maids were usually Irish. And the first-grade teacher was a gem. She had sets of reading primers of differing difficulty so that each student proceeded at her own pace.

    The real loss to children educated in public schools was the opening of other professions than teaching and nursing to women. So you can just imagine the talent level of teachers in present-day schools. On balance, the societal contributions and happiness level of high-functioning working women probably outweighs the lowered quality of elementary school teachers. Housework and minding children is stultifying and those that deny it are guilty of Sartrean false consciousness.

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  62. The achievement gap actually began nine months prior to birth. We may someday have the technology to better study in utero development and be able to document and understand how people of different races develop differently .

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  63. @Anon

    Plenty of maids can read elementary English. My mother a NYC Board of Education elementary school teacher hired a sequence of maids to mind me when she was working. I clearly remember reading to one of them from a book distributed by my first-grade teacher and being corrected by the maid for my mistakes. Of course this was around 1939 and the maids were usually Irish. And the first-grade teacher was a gem. She had sets of reading primers of differing difficulty so that each student proceeded at her own pace.

    The real loss to children educated in public schools was the opening of other professions than teaching and nursing to women. So you can just imagine the talent level of teachers in present-day schools. On balance, the societal contributions and happiness level of high-functioning working women doing work they were not previously allowed to do probably outweighs the lowered quality of elementary school teachers.

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  64. Steve, Please excuse doubled comment and delete one.

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  65. It’s Head Start expanded across the board, only this time it will work!

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  66. @Coemgen

    “…maybe a woman’s use of birth control pills could possibly be linked to autism, peanut allergies, etc. in her breast-fed or yet-to-be born children…”

    And maybe she and her “sisters” pissing all those left over hormones into the local water supply and from thence to the world’s oceans might possibly be linked to: (1) a 50% reduction in human sperm counts over the last half century or so; (2) various reproductive oddities in other species over the same time period; (3) and God alone knows what other phenomena. The link becomes even more plausible when one notes that these problems began appearing within the same period that the use of birth control pills became widespread.

    I’m ashamed that I never noticed something this obvious. I can only wonder (and sort of guess) why this is not a major topic of popular discussion and much government-funded research.

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  67. @trelane

    After institutional acknowledgements in the first paragraph of the Acknowledgements section, individual acknowledgements start in paragraph two with the following: “For learned and often creative advice for dealing with methodological issues, our thanks go to James Heckman…” page xxv, First Free Press paperback edition, 1996.

    BTW, the others you name receive no acknowledgement.

    I hope that helps.

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  68. @Anon7

    I meant to hit the Agree not the Disagree button! Also LOL!

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  69. @Anon

    Citation required.

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  70. Marat says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Really interesting – a living re-enactment of our not-terribly-distant past.

    I knew a 16 yr old kid from a devout Catholic family who was accepted at medical school. He was living in a graduate b-school school dorm and his parents picked him up on weekends and took him home — probably a good idea! Very polite fellow who had a grandfatherly air.

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  71. @AnonAnon

    My mother was not wealthy, but she managed to afford the home-provider route. In chronological order, the providers were:

    * An old Jewish widow who lived in a trailer (!) filled with old newspapers
    * A middle-aged married Colombian woman with four sons, one of whom died in a car crash a few days before his high-school graduation
    * A crazy childless thirtysomething Cuban lady who took me on weird excursions all around Miami

    The old Jewish lady took care of me from about three weeks after my birth until shortly before my third birthday.

    She told my mother that she categorically refused to speak to me in baby talk. “Children should be exposed to proper English,” she liked to say. To expand my vocabulary, she read me articles from her ever-growing stack of newspapers.

    The Colombian, whose English was merely serviceable, had me from the age of three until I was maybe eight or nine. (She claimed that taking care of me helped distract her from the overwhelming grief of burying her 18-year-old son.)

    The Cuban had me on weekday afternoons through the end of elementary school.

    When I started middle school, my mother (very reluctantly) allowed me to become a latchkey kid. Around that time, she developed some severe health problems, so she started spending a lot more time at home.

    (Up until then, I spent very little time with her on weekdays. She woke me up in the morning and got me on the school bus, and picked me up around eight or nine from the babysitter. As soon as we got home, she put me right to bed. On weekends and holidays, she dumped me with my grandparents. On a typical Friday, I would go straight from school to Grandma and Grandpa’s house, and would stay there until late Sunday afternoon.)

    The wacky Cuban was the most memorable, but, in retrospect, the matronly Colombian had the strongest influence. Her family was solidly middle-class. The husband worked long hours, so I rarely saw him. The mother-in-law lived in the house, but rarely left her room. (She spoke no English, so the only time we interacted was when she gave me a whack for being a little too rambunctious.) The youngest brother was only a year older than me, so we spent a lot of time roughhousing.

    I was the only child of a single mother, so my time with the Colombians was my only real taste of a “normal” family structure.

    My mother had some kind of big argument (over money, I believe) with the Colombian when I was in third or fourth grade. One day, I took the school bus to their house after school, and watched the screaming match erupt when my mother came to pick me up. On the way home, my mother told me that she would have to find somewhere else for me to go after school. The next day, the Cuban lady picked me up in her car. (She had done some housekeeping work for my mother, so I already knew her.)

    Aside from a chance encounter in a supermarket many years later, I never saw any of the Colombians ever again.

    The Cuban lady used to take me all over the place. She had lots of flaky “friends” who she always had to visit for one nebulous reason or another. “Don’t tell your mother,” she’d always say. “She thinks we’re just hanging out at my apartment.”

    My grandmother took care of me on weekends and holidays. Saturday was her shopping day, so we went first to the mall, then to the supermarket, and then back to her house, where I spent the rest of the day in the pool.

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  72. @Jus' Sayin'...

    Wait your hour, go back and fix it.

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  73. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    Women pissing in the ocean causing anything is kind of incredulous. I mean the total mass of female humanity is miniscule compared to the mass of the ocean, and wouldn’t dramatic effects in other life forms be noticed?

    Stories of birth control hormones causing hyacinths to grow better around the discharges of sewge plants, maybe, but open ocean pissing, I’m skeptical in the extreme.

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  74. @Coemgen

    The force is not with Passive Voice.

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  75. @Hail

    Whatever, my 13-month-old boys were mesmerized by Mozart as infants. Like from intense crying to complete attention instantly.

    Now they’re getting to just being calmed by it while they play. There’s definitely something going on there.

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  76. @Diversity Heretic

    More like 100,00 years prior, give or take a million or two.

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  77. Cato says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    Richard Lynne IS mentioned. (also Arthur Jensen).

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  78. @International Jew

    Provided that Guatelombian nanny isn’t with your kid all the time, she could help your kid grow up bilingual, which is a good thing.

    LOL Spanish is a pretty worthless foreign language. There is no premium for knowing it. Heck, even professional journals in Spanish speaking countries are published in English only. Sheesh. There is virtually no proprietary content in Spanish. Contrast that with German. True story, my son’s friend was looking for an article on a new thing in engineering. Lucky for him, he knew German as the article was only available in German. Anecdote, but still.

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  79. Yeah, a friend of ours does home daycare in a nicer neighborhood. Her own kids went to private schools. Her husband is a salesman of specialty industrial products business to business. Her older son is a fireman and the younger son is about to graduate from Texas A&M in chemical engineering.

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  80. Anonymous[408] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    So which is it?

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  81. Ian M. says:

    Doesn’t this popular argument imply that it’s extremely damaging for college educated mothers to go back to work and turn raising their children over to Guatelombian babysitters who barely speak English?

    Harvard psychologist William McDougall made a similar point way back in 1921:

    The last resort of those who are unwilling to accept the evidence of positive correlation between intelligence and good social status is to assert that the children of the better social classes are stimulated to more rapid intellectual development in their earliest years by contact with their more intellectual parents. This explanation has been fully considered and rejected by the workers who have obtained the evidence. I will merely point out here how little ground there is for this assumption. The children of the better social classes, especially perhaps in England, too often spend most of the waking hours of their early years shut away in a nursery, with little or no companionship beyond that of a dull nurse-maid, or sitting solemnly in a baby-car which is pushed round and round some public park. The children of the poor enjoy in the main far more companionship, both childish and adult, have more stimulating contacts, are thrown more upon their own resources, and are much less inhibited and repressed.

    From McDougall’s lectures Is America Safe for Democracy?

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  82. Josep says:
    @Joe Schmoe

    I don’t know about you, but one benefit of Spanish over English is how it’s more phonetic; every word is spelled the way it’s pronounced and vice-versa.
    One thing that annoys me about English (that’s absent in Spanish) is how:
    * the “ough”s in “thought”, “through”, “cough”, “tough” and “though” are not pronounced the same.
    * Neither are the “ea”s in “heart”, “beat”, “break” and “lead”.
    * “slaughter” and “laughter” do not rhyme.
    * Neither do “come” and “home”.
    As a native English speaker, it’s hard to believe that such a clumsy language could become the most dominant one for international relationships, even in countries that were never colonies of either the US or Britain. I’d be grateful to know how anyone whose first language wasn’t English could get around these obstacles.

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  83. @Josep

    A century ago, Anglo-American elites like Andrew Carnegie, Col. McCormick, and GB Shaw were obsessed with spelling reform.

    That’s just disappeared in recent decades.

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