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I can’t quite follow JPod’s meaning here: is he calling Trump speechwriter Stephen Miller “Goebbels” or is he calling me “Goebbels” for praising Miller?

JPod was more lucid back in August when he was calling me “a loathsome, reprllent racist filth” for daring to joke about the political correctness of Weinstein Brothers’ movies. At least I could tell then that he was fulminating about me.

Update from a few minutes ago: Evidently, to Podhoretz, my defending Stephen Miller and joking about Harvey Weinstein makes me “basically a Nazi:”

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Hey, JPod, are you sure your libel insurance covers Twitter? Why don’t you ponder that overnight?

 
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  1. Any publicity is good publicity, they say, so good on ya’ Steve.

    (I don’t know how famous this particular twitterer is though, as I’ve only heard of him on here and possible VDare.)

    I can’t quite follow JPod’s meaning here: is he calling me “Goebbels” or is he calling Trump speechwriter Stephen Miller “Goebbels?”

    Ask not for whom the twitter tweets, my friend – it tweets for thee.

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    Take him to court Steve, sue his ass!
    , @Jim Bob Lassiter
    When the Tweeter tweets his twat, it's game up.
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  2. JohnnyD says:

    Steve, I’m starting to think that J-Pod has a crush on you…

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  3. nebulafox says:

    https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/the-limits-of-social-policy/

    You can say it is something of an intellectual decline.

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    • Replies: @D. K.
    How is any decent human being expected to get through even the second sentence?

    "...the blacks...!"
    , @Almost Missouri
    Thanks for reminding us that Commentary used to publish relevant and incisive writing before the JPod era.

    "Thus the liberal point of view is paradoxically calculated to make us feel both guiltier and more arrogant. We feel guilty for not having recognized and acted on injustices and deprivations earlier, but we also feel complacently superior in comparison to our forebears, who did not recognize or act on them at all."
     
    This kind of concise and clear-eyed analysis can now only be found on the alt-right, ... for reasons prophetically explained in Commentary in 1971.
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  5. D. K. says:

    He is calling you “Goebbels;” Miller is the defendant whom you are defending.

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    • Replies: @songbird
    I think he is saying Miller looks like Goebbels (and slandering him).

    If that's the case: I disagree. That's sort of like one mixing up Hernandez and Amendola.
    , @Dr. X

    He is calling you “Goebbels;” Miller is the defendant whom you are defending.
     
    Yeah, but who does that make Miller, then?

    Himmler?

    But Miller's a Jew. How could Steve be a latter-day Goebbels if he's defending the Jew Miller?

    Oh, this is all just so confusing when everyone's a "Nazi"!!!
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  6. istevefan says:

    How does jpod have 121K twitter followers? Is he that influential? Steve doesn’t even have 18K.

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    • Replies: @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
    It doesn't matter what the emperor wears.

    The emperor is still the emperor, even when he's naked.
    , @Mr. Anon

    How does jpod have 121K twitter followers? Is he that influential? Steve doesn’t even have 18K.
     
    Actually at least half his followers are japanese girls who typed in "JPop" but it got autocorrected.
    , @27 year old

    How does jpod have 121K twitter followers?
     
    A lot (a lot) of them are fake, and many are White Right accounts who follow him just so they can call out stuff like this.

    If you look at his engagement on more typical tweets you see likes and replies that look more in line with what someone with 1000 or 10,000 followers would get.

    I would have no idea who Jpod was if Steve had never mentioned him. I'll be generous and say there are probably 100,000 people who know who jpod is and who agree with the things he says - but there aren't 100,000 of them of twitter for damn sure.

    Commentary magazine claims 33,000 circulation monthly. Actually monthly readers, probably way below that.

    These establishment pontificator all buy followers, nobody cares what they say. A

    , @CrunchyButRealistCon
    The Neocon/NeoLib Globalist Elites are tight knit. They may only be 2-5% of the population but they are motivated & have made a tacit pact to fight to the end. They've been revealed as scumbags but they pretty much are too invested in their ideology & misdeeds to back out now.
    Look at the follower count of the likes of Egghead McMuffin, or various NRO NeverTrumpers or legacy Media minions. High.
    Thank heavens they've been at least temporarily Neutralized.
    , @Lurker
    I just had a look at JPod via my Twitter. Where I learn that JPlod has 6 followers I know. It's safe to say none of them are his fans. Or they are phony accounts, I only recognise two of them as definitely legit.
    , @Jim Smith
    Mainstream media versus alternative media. Still got a ways to go.
    , @Autochthon
    There's also self-selection at work. Mainstream (i.e., leftist, anti-European, etc.) pod-people care about Twitter, use it, etc. Those of us hip to reality are much more likely to eschew platforms for which we are the products (Google, Friendface, Twitter, etc.).

    Thus, for instance, I expect far more people follow Steve's work than you might suspect based upon data from Twitter and Friendface.
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  7. syonredux says:

    America’s Leading Wit Does It Again

    I can’t quite follow JPod’s meaning here: is he calling me “Goebbels” or is he calling Trump speechwriter Stephen Miller “Goebbels?”

    JPod was more lucid back in August when he was calling me “a loathsome, reprllent racist filth” for daring to joke about the political correctness of Weinstein Brothers’ movies:

    Steve, you’ve gotta lend this guy a hand. Right now, it’s like out-witting someone who’s been concussed a few times too many. Maybe you could tell him that’s he’s making his co-ethnics look bad… send him some books to study by Dorothy Parker and SJ Perelman….Maybe that might bring his game up a notch….

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    I'm not triggered! I've lived in enemy territory all my life!

     

    https://twitter.com/jpodhoretz/status/955605276094291973

    Since, to the best of my knowledge, JPod has lived in the USA all his life...does this mean that he regards the USA as "enemy territory?"
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  8. America: Where every day is 1939!

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    But not 1939 America, every day is 1939 Germany.
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  9. @istevefan
    How does jpod have 121K twitter followers? Is he that influential? Steve doesn't even have 18K.

    It doesn’t matter what the emperor wears.

    The emperor is still the emperor, even when he’s naked.

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  10. Bugg says:

    “Stephen Miller is a hero”.

    Right now Rob Gronkowski is more of a wit than JPod.

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    Lol. That's a good line.
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  11. D. K. says:
    @nebulafox
    https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/the-limits-of-social-policy/

    You can say it is something of an intellectual decline.

    How is any decent human being expected to get through even the second sentence?

    “…the blacks…!”

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    How is any decent human being expected to get through even the second sentence?

    “…the blacks…!”
     
    You should have seen it before the editors got to it: ".......the schvartzes......"!
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  12. Bill W. says:

    Reversion to the mean + ethnic nepotism = mid-wits with megaphones.

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  13. whorefinder says: • Website

    JPod’s mental health is in question now.

    You and Miller and Trump and the Alt-Right are causing him deep distress, and his normal reaction is to spit out caustic words, out-group you, and fulminate for several hundred words about how awful you guys are. Normally, when he does that for long enough against the BadWhites, he succeeds in banishing you.

    But the old magic spells aren’t working anymore. And JPod’s brain is tired from trying so hard. So now though his impulse is to fleck spittle at you, he’s down to just repeating curse words without structuring them into logical sentences or coherent arguments. He’s quite clearly exhausted at trying to unperson us all. He’s getting close to a breakdown.

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    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    Double it. Then double it again.

    The polarization, I mean.
    , @J.Ross
    This. Now is the time to start worrying about how to defeat a Chinese or Indian or Muslim thought leader. Leave the gefilte fish in the vinegar barrel.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    I guess this tweeting is worse than emailing in terms of people, the President included, spitting out words on impulse. They (whoever they are) used to warn people to not send emails in haste, especially ones written in anger. Back with snail mail letters one had quite a bit of time while putting them in envelopes, licking stamps and bringing them to the mailbox to retract it all and throw them out.

    Of course internet commenting on blogs is not a whole lot better - we've got 5 minutes to take it all back.

    , @anonymouslee

    But if you look at the Anti-Defamation League or the Berkeley professors, and there are plenty of others, it’s the Sam Ervin story. You know you can’t deal with the material. Either you ignore it, or if you can’t ignore it, then defame the speaker. That’s the only way you can deal with it if you don’t have the brains or the knowledge or you just know your position can’t be defended. I think that’s understandable, and in a sense you can appreciate it. That’s just the hallmark of the commissar.
     
    --Noam Chomsky

    These people are in trouble. This shit just doesn't work on the internet generation. JPOD cannot command from on high who's allowed to be heard and who isn't. He's using the same platform as 12 year old girls with bedazzled iphones, only the latter are typically more adept.

    That's a far cry from the days when WFB could excommunicate people from conservatism, inc. or make David Brooks career because he knew how to suck up at cocktail parties or whatever (the world is waiting on Brooks to reveal any other talent or job skill).

    The old way was exceedingly anti-intellectual and when the dinosaurs use the same shtick now ("you're not ALLOWED to read/reference him!") they're only tarring themselves with the brush of disgrace.

    Kids raised on social media are not moved by the feigned incredulous stare (a nazi, oh my stars! I just couldn't bear it if he were allowed to post on the same internet as me).

    I've seen this tactic used on the curious but unsure and it bombs miserably--precisely the opposite of what the dinosaurs think, that they can bully those lacking confidence or commitment. These idiots are doing our work for us. All we do is tell them, "oh, you don't need to go full alt-right. just keep your eyes open because they're bullshitting you and once you see it you can't unsee it." So what happens when they go from the alt-right, where we were interested in having an honest conversation with the open-minded, to then try the same with our opponents? All theyre going to get is, "NAZIS! WITCHES! YOURE NOT ALLOWED TO MENTION THEM!" and the penny begins to drop.

    Pinker recognizes the danger in conceding something as important as the truth. I'm not sure most of the mainstream gets it.

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  14. Now, now, I’m sure JPod wants open borders for Israel just as much as he does for America. I bet he has called more than a few Israeli’s “Goebbels”.

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  15. Bubba says:

    Podhoretz used “Goebbels” even though he meant to use “Goy”. Both words have the same meaning according to him.

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  16. Polynikes says:

    What if my family immigrated pre-1865? Do I get to have slaves?

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    Congratulations - you get to pay the reparations.
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  17. O. Zerk says:

    I just blocked Steve Sailer because, you know, he's basically a Nazi.— John Podhoretz (@jpodhoretz) January 23, 2018

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    OMG! The picture by his tweet is not that of a 14-year-old schoolgirl. Yet, the tweet sounds like what a girl in middle school would say. Did I get this all in 140 characters? O I C U 8 1 2.
    , @Lurker
    The redundant 'you know' really does make him sound like, you know, a whiny teen girl.
    , @Bugg
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3XX_z5wZn0
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  18. Bleuteaux says:
    @Joe, averaged
    America: Where every day is 1939!

    But not 1939 America, every day is 1939 Germany.

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  19. notanon says:

    living proof heredity of IQ isn’t a 100% certainty

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  20. Rod1963 says:

    Steve is living in Jpod’s head rent free.

    All Steve needs to do now is label Jpod “low energy” and “confused”.

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    I think morbidly obese would be sufficient.
    , @Sigurd Snake-in-the-Pants
    I think Steve should also give him a juvenile, mocking knick-name like Stinky Poddy or somesuch.
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  21. I haven’t been around long enough to know what if anything Mr. Sailer has done or said that could to deserve a grudge that provokes such an embarrassing performance from Podhoretz.
    Mr. Miller is clearly an American who is Jewish and is trying to do the best for the country and his fellow citizens.

    Over the years it’s become impossible to ignore the exaggerated sense of grievance and paranoia so common among American Jews that sees so many things as antisemitism or provocation or even as an existential threat to their very existence. This is sad because the intolerance, aggression and authoritarianism they advance to fight these phantom menaces occupying their paranoid fantasies will inevitably fuel their existence in reality.

    Their paranoid dreams could be giving birth to their worst nightmares.

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    • Replies: @Alfa158
    That seems to be the cycle they have been stuck in for the last few millennia. Very sad indeed, it didn’t have to be this way.
    , @anon
    Their paranoid dreams could be giving birth to their worst nightmares.

    And the funniest thing is, you can tell them this directly, to their faces, and they'll just keep doing it. It's like they genuinely cannot stop themselves.

    It's bizarre.
    , @guest
    It helps to understand they're not as serious as they appear. They're adept at playacting.
    , @Benjaminl
    I have no inside knowledge, but the first time I became aware of Mr. Podhoretz's intense feelings was a sequence of exchanges in summer 2005 triggered by discussions of birthright citizenship and Hurricane Katrina:


    7/11/2005 – JPod triggered by Derb’s criticism of birthright citizenship

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/pod-lesser-birthright-pundit/

    7/13/2005 – JPod calls Sailer “a scum”

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/please-keep-attacking-me/

    7/17/2005 – Sailer cites Norman Podhoretz contra JPod

    http://www.vdare.com/articles/podhoretz-junior-vs-steve-sailer

    9/3/2005 – Sailer commits an act of Unauthorized Noticing

    http://www.vdare.com/articles/racial-reality-and-the-new-orleans-nightmare

    9/5/2005 – JPod triggered; early use of “point ‘n’ sputter”

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/thou-shalt-know-him-by-his-enemies/

    9/7/2005 – Sailer cites Commentary and AEI contra JPod

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/john-podhoretz-averts-his-maidenly/
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  22. songbird says:
    @D. K.
    He is calling you "Goebbels;" Miller is the defendant whom you are defending.

    I think he is saying Miller looks like Goebbels (and slandering him).

    If that’s the case: I disagree. That’s sort of like one mixing up Hernandez and Amendola.

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  23. Dwright says:

    How did the Podhoretz’s conceive such a dimwit?

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    How did the Podhoretz’s conceive such a dimwit?
     
    By using the wrong method to create a plural from the singular?
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  24. Bleuteaux says:
    @Rod1963
    Steve is living in Jpod's head rent free.

    All Steve needs to do now is label Jpod "low energy" and "confused".

    I think morbidly obese would be sufficient.

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  25. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Ethnocentric, patriotic, it’s all very complicated with Jews.

    Jews like Podhoretz could say their pro-diversity immigration position is neo-patriotic and anti-ethnocentric because they believe American is an Idea that should be open to all the world.
    In contrast, Trumpers cling to vision of white-majority America.

    However, it could also be argued that Jewish globalists push to increase diversity in the US to further Jewish ethnocentric interests, i.e. as the ruling minority elite, Jews feel more secure in a nation without an overwhelming gentile majority.

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    The "gentile majority" has been growing since the Baby Boom, and is now back over 98%-- the highest that it has been in over a century. The strategy of Jewish elites, in America, has been to decrease European-Americans to a stigmatized minority, not to lower the percentage of the country's population that is gentile.
    , @Whiskey
    Not really. See Jewish flight from post colonial Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Algeria, Tunisia etc. Lack of White control equals Jewish flight.

    Jews chose certain death to living in the Dominican Republic is SS St Louis.

    Me I'd have taken Trujillo's offer.
    , @Coemgen

    Trumpers cling to vision of white-majority America.
     
    "Trumpers" cling to a vision of--not--being ethnically-cleansed from Ameica.
    , @rogue-one
    It's not just jews. From my personal experience, a lot of GoodWhites are far more fervent supporters of mass immigration and "equity" than even jews.
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  26. Yak-15 says:

    JPod has so little to offer as an intellectual nemesis. His entire repertoire of attack revolves around appeals to an arbitrary, volatile moral code that has existed for perhaps half a dozen years and will probably be vastly diffferent in half a dozen more. In that sense, he has no moral base and thus no real understanding of right and wrong – just a set of views that morph to whatever his intellectual superiors proclaim is socially pious. His sole motivation for engaging people on Twitter is to read the electronic canon of his evolving relgion and outcast those who question that orthodoxy as “reprllant filth.”

    That noted, it must be mentally tiresome for leftists like him to constantly have to redefine what “Nazi” means.

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  27. Alfa158 says:
    @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
    I haven't been around long enough to know what if anything Mr. Sailer has done or said that could to deserve a grudge that provokes such an embarrassing performance from Podhoretz.
    Mr. Miller is clearly an American who is Jewish and is trying to do the best for the country and his fellow citizens.

    Over the years it's become impossible to ignore the exaggerated sense of grievance and paranoia so common among American Jews that sees so many things as antisemitism or provocation or even as an existential threat to their very existence. This is sad because the intolerance, aggression and authoritarianism they advance to fight these phantom menaces occupying their paranoid fantasies will inevitably fuel their existence in reality.

    Their paranoid dreams could be giving birth to their worst nightmares.

    That seems to be the cycle they have been stuck in for the last few millennia. Very sad indeed, it didn’t have to be this way.

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  28. Mr. Anon says:
    @D. K.
    How is any decent human being expected to get through even the second sentence?

    "...the blacks...!"

    How is any decent human being expected to get through even the second sentence?

    “…the blacks…!”

    You should have seen it before the editors got to it: “…….the schvartzes……”!

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  29. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Sounds like a legitimate lawsuit against John Podhoretz to me. Seriously.

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    That would put a great big bow around Trump's ascendancy and America First philosophy. Please do it Steve.
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    Wait, is he blocking Steve's feed or not?
    , @Flip
    Steve is one of the most insightful public intellectuals in America.
    , @Almost Missouri
    The other strange thing about this JPoz-ism is that he implicitly acknowledges that he isn't really worth the attention he gets:

    "This poor loser ... he's yesterday's news, so he even does blog posts about me."
     
    Or maybe he thought that false humility would be endearing rather than revealing.
    , @JimB
    JPod and Rob Reiner look like they were separated at birth. And they both talk like meatheads.
    , @Twinkie
    We should all be so lucky to have enemies such as this.
    , @Chrisnonymous
    Godwin's Bailiff is a fool, but as long as he keeps giving Steve free advertising, we can't complain too much.
    , @Forbes
    I calmly await the arrival of new reader comments--or not. I imagine a good deal of Twitter followers find the ad hominem Goebbels name-calling as cat nip...
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  31. Jpod’s tactic is dirty, but it works a lot. Jews and blacks know it’s the kryptonite they can use on the white gentile anytime to put him in his place.

    Jews also see themselves as the ultimate arbiters of who qualify as Good Whites and who don’t. But I wouldn’t worry about it too much Steve. It’s kinda hard to “Goy, Bye” an independent blogger.

    Do you and Mr. Podhoretz have any mutual friends who can help mediate this fracas and nip it in the bud? Lawsuits are ugly.

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    There is no to little risk to Steve of defamation suits. California has very strong free speech laws and weak defamation laws.
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  32. JimB says:

    JPod lost the argument, so out come the childish insults. He is a great example of steep regression to the mean.

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  33. Dr. X says:
    @D. K.
    He is calling you "Goebbels;" Miller is the defendant whom you are defending.

    He is calling you “Goebbels;” Miller is the defendant whom you are defending.

    Yeah, but who does that make Miller, then?

    Himmler?

    But Miller’s a Jew. How could Steve be a latter-day Goebbels if he’s defending the Jew Miller?

    Oh, this is all just so confusing when everyone’s a “Nazi”!!!

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    I'm starting to think that the main reason the Left throws around "Nazi" and "racist" is that it is a sort of infantalism that was never discouraged in childhood. I mean that whole category of names is not one young siblings apply to each other, and therefore Mom and Dad don't need to clamp down on it.

    It's the ultimate cathartic release, makes any swear word seem weak. Plus, it's like flashing a political gang sign too. Makes you feel team spirit. And it is also sex neutral, so quite serviceable, if you are trying to use politics to pick up women.
    , @D. K.
    Miller stands accused of being a self-hating Jew, by virtue of his failing to support perpetually open borders, thereby putting the interests of his fellow Americans above those of his fellow Jews.
    , @guest
    There were of course rumors that Hitler himself was part-Jewish. Which Jews enjoy, for more reasons than that it would be humiliating for Hitler. Like the fact that it makes the whole tragedy even more just about them.

    Miller can be whoever. Have him be Hitler, for the purposes of this tweet, even if Trump is Otherwise Hitler. Or have there be two Hitlers, or a million. What's the difference?
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  34. Steve Sailer is a veteran pundit who has battled in the trenches for decades but I can imagine this is still very hard on him. Just imagine a 19-year old white man from flyover country entering university for the first time. Do you think he gets to benefit from a healthy exchange of ideas and his ideas will be given a fair hearing? Especially on questions like immigration, race relations, crime, etc. If he deviates out of line just a little bit, he will be shunned and be the subject of Jpod-style vitriol.

    Another reason to bring back all-white colleges.

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  35. The Z Blog says: • Website

    Years ago, he freaked out on me because I said to him, “don’t get your panties in a twist” over something he was getting worked up over. He called me a Nazi. A couple of years ago on Twitter, he called me “loathsome” and then blocked me.

    The guy is an odious carbuncle.

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    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    A midget mentally, but a giant of girth.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/08/19/meet-john-podhoretz-the-man-who-called-breitbart-readers-rape-loving/
    , @Lagertha
    I was called a Nazi when I was 19 by another student at a religion course/class at one of the most obnoxious liberal arts Universities. All I said, in the late 70's: "at some point, Israel needs to give up the WB & Gaza Strip, because, before the World Wars, Palestinians were predominately, Bedouin tribes who lived in moving tent towns, but, the land that they move about in, well, they consider that their homeland." I have to say, the professor stood up for me...because several guys ( I was one of 2 women) were screaming at me, calling me (wait for it) a blonde Nazi! - hmmm? I need to look up who those MeToo guys were/are now! But that was the first time when I saw the hostility to anyone who does not "toe the line" of a new supremacy I never knew existed.

    Haha...I win! After 40 years, from that frosh course, Palestine and Israel are still a mess.

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  36. Jake says:

    Pod fils is far too brilliant for us non-Chosen Race inferior types to be able to comprehend.

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    Remember when the late Gore Vidal said that Barack Obama was just "too brilliant" for the American people?
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  37. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/jpodhoretz/status/955640872133185537

    Wait, is he blocking Steve’s feed or not?

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    Blocking him on twitter while obsessively refreshing unz.com/isteve, looking for moar JPod content.
    , @anon
    I really like it when ridiculous pundits don't just block you, they make it a point to tell everyone they're blocking you.

    It reminds me of high school, when one of the popular girls wouldn't just not invite another girl to her party, she'd go around telling everyone in the whole school that she wasn't inviting her.

    I think he expects you to break out crying in the middle of Home Ec and run out of the room, Steve.

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  38. Daniel H says:

    >>>I just blocked Steve Sailer because, you know, he’s basically a Nazi.

    Well, at least he didn’t call you “literally” a Nazi. That would be fighting words.

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  39. Thea says:

    What he said was “You’ve arrived”

    Well done!

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  40. Flip says:
    @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/jpodhoretz/status/955640872133185537

    Steve is one of the most insightful public intellectuals in America.

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    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    True. I believe Te'Genius Coates described our Steve as "America's most foremost public intellectual."
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  41. BenKenobi says:
    @whorefinder
    JPod's mental health is in question now.

    You and Miller and Trump and the Alt-Right are causing him deep distress, and his normal reaction is to spit out caustic words, out-group you, and fulminate for several hundred words about how awful you guys are. Normally, when he does that for long enough against the BadWhites, he succeeds in banishing you.

    But the old magic spells aren't working anymore. And JPod's brain is tired from trying so hard. So now though his impulse is to fleck spittle at you, he's down to just repeating curse words without structuring them into logical sentences or coherent arguments. He's quite clearly exhausted at trying to unperson us all. He's getting close to a breakdown.

    Double it. Then double it again.

    The polarization, I mean.

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  42. JerryC says:
    @Almost Missouri
    Wait, is he blocking Steve's feed or not?

    Blocking him on twitter while obsessively refreshing unz.com/isteve, looking for moar JPod content.

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  43. Mr. Anon says:
    @istevefan
    How does jpod have 121K twitter followers? Is he that influential? Steve doesn't even have 18K.

    How does jpod have 121K twitter followers? Is he that influential? Steve doesn’t even have 18K.

    Actually at least half his followers are japanese girls who typed in “JPop” but it got autocorrected.

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    Untalented narcissists like JPod buy followers. He does have name recognition with Normies though...
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  44. OT:

    ‘I won’t fly refugees to their deaths’: The El Al pilots resisting deportation
    …At least three El Al pilots in recent days published public declarations of their refusal to take part in the deportation of asylum seekers
    …“I have joined many of my good friends, in declaring that I will not fly refugees to their deaths. I won’t take part in that barbarism.”

    LOL, you can say “I will not fly refugees to their deaths”, but just don’t call their country a “shithole”.

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  45. D. K. says:
    @Anonymous
    Ethnocentric, patriotic, it's all very complicated with Jews.

    Jews like Podhoretz could say their pro-diversity immigration position is neo-patriotic and anti-ethnocentric because they believe American is an Idea that should be open to all the world.
    In contrast, Trumpers cling to vision of white-majority America.

    However, it could also be argued that Jewish globalists push to increase diversity in the US to further Jewish ethnocentric interests, i.e. as the ruling minority elite, Jews feel more secure in a nation without an overwhelming gentile majority.

    The “gentile majority” has been growing since the Baby Boom, and is now back over 98%– the highest that it has been in over a century. The strategy of Jewish elites, in America, has been to decrease European-Americans to a stigmatized minority, not to lower the percentage of the country’s population that is gentile.

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  46. anon • Disclaimer says:

    I miss the days when these people at least tried to follow the first corollary to Godwin’s Law.

    So, now that Podhoretz the Lesser has linked to this post, are any of his fans here, reading the comments? Would any of them like to defend this buffoon? What value do you get from reading him, if any?

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    Yes, let us hear from the 121K legion, ... if they actually exist.
    , @J.Ross
    Nobody has ever followed Godwin's Law, least of all Pod[horetz] people. Godwin's Law is an observation about nature like Newton's First Law of Mechanics rather than a prohibition like Hailey's Law.
    , @Neil Templeton
    It seems he has "chutzpah", as defined by Wiki. That has value. Keep it up, John.

    Neil
    , @Benjaminl
    I, at least, skimmed through the Twitter responses to his Tweet and couldn't find almost anyone on his own side. That must be embarrassing. (Except for fellow resentful ethnocentrist Judith Shulevitz.)
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  47. @nebulafox
    https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/the-limits-of-social-policy/

    You can say it is something of an intellectual decline.

    Thanks for reminding us that Commentary used to publish relevant and incisive writing before the JPod era.

    “Thus the liberal point of view is paradoxically calculated to make us feel both guiltier and more arrogant. We feel guilty for not having recognized and acted on injustices and deprivations earlier, but we also feel complacently superior in comparison to our forebears, who did not recognize or act on them at all.”

    This kind of concise and clear-eyed analysis can now only be found on the alt-right, … for reasons prophetically explained in Commentary in 1971.

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  48. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
    I haven't been around long enough to know what if anything Mr. Sailer has done or said that could to deserve a grudge that provokes such an embarrassing performance from Podhoretz.
    Mr. Miller is clearly an American who is Jewish and is trying to do the best for the country and his fellow citizens.

    Over the years it's become impossible to ignore the exaggerated sense of grievance and paranoia so common among American Jews that sees so many things as antisemitism or provocation or even as an existential threat to their very existence. This is sad because the intolerance, aggression and authoritarianism they advance to fight these phantom menaces occupying their paranoid fantasies will inevitably fuel their existence in reality.

    Their paranoid dreams could be giving birth to their worst nightmares.

    Their paranoid dreams could be giving birth to their worst nightmares.

    And the funniest thing is, you can tell them this directly, to their faces, and they’ll just keep doing it. It’s like they genuinely cannot stop themselves.

    It’s bizarre.

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    It's like feminists who complain the guys they sleep with treat them poorly then continue sleeping with men who treat them poorly.
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  49. J.Ross says: • Website
    @whorefinder
    JPod's mental health is in question now.

    You and Miller and Trump and the Alt-Right are causing him deep distress, and his normal reaction is to spit out caustic words, out-group you, and fulminate for several hundred words about how awful you guys are. Normally, when he does that for long enough against the BadWhites, he succeeds in banishing you.

    But the old magic spells aren't working anymore. And JPod's brain is tired from trying so hard. So now though his impulse is to fleck spittle at you, he's down to just repeating curse words without structuring them into logical sentences or coherent arguments. He's quite clearly exhausted at trying to unperson us all. He's getting close to a breakdown.

    This. Now is the time to start worrying about how to defeat a Chinese or Indian or Muslim thought leader. Leave the gefilte fish in the vinegar barrel.

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  50. @istevefan
    How does jpod have 121K twitter followers? Is he that influential? Steve doesn't even have 18K.

    How does jpod have 121K twitter followers?

    A lot (a lot) of them are fake, and many are White Right accounts who follow him just so they can call out stuff like this.

    If you look at his engagement on more typical tweets you see likes and replies that look more in line with what someone with 1000 or 10,000 followers would get.

    I would have no idea who Jpod was if Steve had never mentioned him. I’ll be generous and say there are probably 100,000 people who know who jpod is and who agree with the things he says – but there aren’t 100,000 of them of twitter for damn sure.

    Commentary magazine claims 33,000 circulation monthly. Actually monthly readers, probably way below that.

    These establishment pontificator all buy followers, nobody cares what they say. A

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    I would have no idea who Jpod was if Steve had never mentioned him. I’ll be generous and say there are probably 100,000 people who know who jpod is and who agree with the things he says – but there aren’t 100,000 of them of twitter for damn sure.

    Most of the people who know of PodPerson know him from his days at NRO (where he acquired the JPod handle, iirc) before he was given the job at Commentary. Since he left NRO it's doubtful anyone gives a shit. When he was at NRO he routinely clashed with John Derbyshire. Derbyshire actually bothered to post interesting stuff, while PodPerson was boring as hell (and obnoxiously rude to anyone who emailed him, as I did a time or two).
    , @Barnard
    Most people on the Washington pundit circuit know who John Podhoretz is and that is more important to him than being well known with the general public. I don't see what blocking Steve on Twitter does for him. Steve can just log out of Twitter, go to Google and read his feed just like everyone else who isn't on Twitter.
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  51. @whorefinder
    JPod's mental health is in question now.

    You and Miller and Trump and the Alt-Right are causing him deep distress, and his normal reaction is to spit out caustic words, out-group you, and fulminate for several hundred words about how awful you guys are. Normally, when he does that for long enough against the BadWhites, he succeeds in banishing you.

    But the old magic spells aren't working anymore. And JPod's brain is tired from trying so hard. So now though his impulse is to fleck spittle at you, he's down to just repeating curse words without structuring them into logical sentences or coherent arguments. He's quite clearly exhausted at trying to unperson us all. He's getting close to a breakdown.

    I guess this tweeting is worse than emailing in terms of people, the President included, spitting out words on impulse. They (whoever they are) used to warn people to not send emails in haste, especially ones written in anger. Back with snail mail letters one had quite a bit of time while putting them in envelopes, licking stamps and bringing them to the mailbox to retract it all and throw them out.

    Of course internet commenting on blogs is not a whole lot better – we’ve got 5 minutes to take it all back.

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    Of course internet commenting on blogs is not a whole lot better – we’ve got 5 minutes to take it all back.
     
    And since the NSA has a giant facility in Utah illegally mining all our computers for data and manned by chirpy, loyal-to-the-government Mormons, I'm guessing they record even the posts we delete. For potential "insurance plans" if any of us get a wee bit of power or money or following.


    Back with snail mail letters one had quite a bit of time while putting them in envelopes, licking stamps and bringing them to the mailbox to retract it all and throw them out.
     
    Two stories. First, Abraham Lincoln used to write a lot of letters he never sent, and some were found among his papers after he died. Generally, when faced with a blundering general or a stubborn court opponent (during his private practice days) or a political dude just not giving him the vote, Abe would write blistering, nasty letters to them, getting it all out on paper, but would lock them away for a few days afterwards till his anger was spent and he could reread them and decide if it would be helpful for him to send it. Often times he never sent them, hence how his admirers grew to believe he seldom got angry and/or didn't get petty and insulting; he was in fact very petty and angry many times, but managed to release his anger in ways that wouldn't hurt him down the line.

    Second, intellectuals of the past often would play chess by snail mail. Nerds would agree to a game, and then mail each other their moves one at a time, with the other side getting to analyze it from all sides and then mail back their own counter move, and so on. English and Scottish intellectuals used to do this between one another once the Act of Union took place and the Scottish Enlightenment began and post between various British cities was more stable. Humorously, despite the best efforts, often times there were massive "Do'oh!" moments in these games were a group of intellectuals on one end, after weeks of analysis, would totally miss the obvious setup the other side was attempting to make, and games might end much faster than we might anticipate.
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  52. @istevefan
    How does jpod have 121K twitter followers? Is he that influential? Steve doesn't even have 18K.

    The Neocon/NeoLib Globalist Elites are tight knit. They may only be 2-5% of the population but they are motivated & have made a tacit pact to fight to the end. They’ve been revealed as scumbags but they pretty much are too invested in their ideology & misdeeds to back out now.
    Look at the follower count of the likes of Egghead McMuffin, or various NRO NeverTrumpers or legacy Media minions. High.
    Thank heavens they’ve been at least temporarily Neutralized.

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  53. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Almost Missouri
    Wait, is he blocking Steve's feed or not?

    I really like it when ridiculous pundits don’t just block you, they make it a point to tell everyone they’re blocking you.

    It reminds me of high school, when one of the popular girls wouldn’t just not invite another girl to her party, she’d go around telling everyone in the whole school that she wasn’t inviting her.

    I think he expects you to break out crying in the middle of Home Ec and run out of the room, Steve.

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  54. @The Z Blog
    Years ago, he freaked out on me because I said to him, "don't get your panties in a twist" over something he was getting worked up over. He called me a Nazi. A couple of years ago on Twitter, he called me "loathsome" and then blocked me.

    The guy is an odious carbuncle.
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  55. Lot says:

    Ezra Klein pretends the Jeff Flake “compromise” that had a tiny bit of wall funding and massive 3 million illegals amnesty was a missed opportunity for Trump to win big.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/ezraklein/status/955453485134303232

    On immigration more than any other issue, the media feels the need to lie even among themselves.

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  56. Lagertha says:
    @The Z Blog
    Years ago, he freaked out on me because I said to him, "don't get your panties in a twist" over something he was getting worked up over. He called me a Nazi. A couple of years ago on Twitter, he called me "loathsome" and then blocked me.

    The guy is an odious carbuncle.

    I was called a Nazi when I was 19 by another student at a religion course/class at one of the most obnoxious liberal arts Universities. All I said, in the late 70′s: “at some point, Israel needs to give up the WB & Gaza Strip, because, before the World Wars, Palestinians were predominately, Bedouin tribes who lived in moving tent towns, but, the land that they move about in, well, they consider that their homeland.” I have to say, the professor stood up for me…because several guys ( I was one of 2 women) were screaming at me, calling me (wait for it) a blonde Nazi! – hmmm? I need to look up who those MeToo guys were/are now! But that was the first time when I saw the hostility to anyone who does not “toe the line” of a new supremacy I never knew existed.

    Haha…I win! After 40 years, from that frosh course, Palestine and Israel are still a mess.

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    You were right it turned out about the Gaza Strip. They dragged every one of hundreds of Jewish settlers out of there, surrounded by even more angry supporters. Now 100% Palestinian and run under Sharia law by a terrorist organization that has broad popular support.

    "before the World Wars, Palestinians were predominately, Bedouin tribes who lived in moving tent towns,"

    That is just not accurate. "Palestinians" are mostly Arabs from elsewhere who did not arrive much before the Jews came back. Bedouin tribes certainly existed, then and now, but they are quite distinct from the Syrian/Egyptian/Circassian/Jordanian mix that is typical there. Bedouins have relatively good relations with Israel.
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  57. @O. Zerk

    I just blocked Steve Sailer because, you know, he's basically a Nazi.— John Podhoretz (@jpodhoretz) January 23, 2018
     

    OMG! The picture by his tweet is not that of a 14-year-old schoolgirl. Yet, the tweet sounds like what a girl in middle school would say. Did I get this all in 140 characters? O I C U 8 1 2.

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  58. Lot says:

    My Negro Problem–And Ours
    Norman Podhoretz, 1963

    This article was behind a paywall last time I checked, so get it now free and download for the future.

    http://www.bernardavishai.info/Podhoretz

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  59. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/jpodhoretz/status/955640872133185537

    The other strange thing about this JPoz-ism is that he implicitly acknowledges that he isn’t really worth the attention he gets:

    “This poor loser … he’s yesterday’s news, so he even does blog posts about me.”

    Or maybe he thought that false humility would be endearing rather than revealing.

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  60. Mr. Anon says:

    So now, instead of “reductio ad Hitlerum” we have “ab initio Hitlerum”.

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  61. Thea says:
    @anon
    Their paranoid dreams could be giving birth to their worst nightmares.

    And the funniest thing is, you can tell them this directly, to their faces, and they'll just keep doing it. It's like they genuinely cannot stop themselves.

    It's bizarre.

    It’s like feminists who complain the guys they sleep with treat them poorly then continue sleeping with men who treat them poorly.

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    You hit the nail on the head. Their strategy is thoroughly feminine.
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  62. Thea says:

    You’d be surprise how many people have no clue who Goebbles even is. Particularly Millenials.

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  63. @anon
    I miss the days when these people at least tried to follow the first corollary to Godwin's Law.

    So, now that Podhoretz the Lesser has linked to this post, are any of his fans here, reading the comments? Would any of them like to defend this buffoon? What value do you get from reading him, if any?

    Yes, let us hear from the 121K legion, … if they actually exist.

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    Just crickets.
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  64. JimB says:
    @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/jpodhoretz/status/955640872133185537

    JPod and Rob Reiner look like they were separated at birth. And they both talk like meatheads.

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  65. Whiskey says: • Website
    @Anonymous
    Ethnocentric, patriotic, it's all very complicated with Jews.

    Jews like Podhoretz could say their pro-diversity immigration position is neo-patriotic and anti-ethnocentric because they believe American is an Idea that should be open to all the world.
    In contrast, Trumpers cling to vision of white-majority America.

    However, it could also be argued that Jewish globalists push to increase diversity in the US to further Jewish ethnocentric interests, i.e. as the ruling minority elite, Jews feel more secure in a nation without an overwhelming gentile majority.

    Not really. See Jewish flight from post colonial Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Algeria, Tunisia etc. Lack of White control equals Jewish flight.

    Jews chose certain death to living in the Dominican Republic is SS St Louis.

    Me I’d have taken Trujillo’s offer.

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    The SS St Louis "no thanks, Nazi Germany sounds better than the DR" does not seem plausible. They likely believed the ship would stop elsewhere in the Western Hemisphere, the UK, Canada, or a neutral country like Ireland.
    , @Anonymous
    Nobody in 1939 thought Hitler would try and kill all the Jews. That was unbelievable. Jews were fleeing Germany because of the threat to their liberty and property, not their lives.
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  66. the funny thing is that EVERYONE busts his balls–left and right. LOL

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  67. songbird says:
    @Dr. X

    He is calling you “Goebbels;” Miller is the defendant whom you are defending.
     
    Yeah, but who does that make Miller, then?

    Himmler?

    But Miller's a Jew. How could Steve be a latter-day Goebbels if he's defending the Jew Miller?

    Oh, this is all just so confusing when everyone's a "Nazi"!!!

    I’m starting to think that the main reason the Left throws around “Nazi” and “racist” is that it is a sort of infantalism that was never discouraged in childhood. I mean that whole category of names is not one young siblings apply to each other, and therefore Mom and Dad don’t need to clamp down on it.

    It’s the ultimate cathartic release, makes any swear word seem weak. Plus, it’s like flashing a political gang sign too. Makes you feel team spirit. And it is also sex neutral, so quite serviceable, if you are trying to use politics to pick up women.

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  68. Neoconned says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    Any publicity is good publicity, they say, so good on ya' Steve.

    (I don't know how famous this particular twitterer is though, as I've only heard of him on here and possible VDare.)

    I can’t quite follow JPod’s meaning here: is he calling me “Goebbels” or is he calling Trump speechwriter Stephen Miller “Goebbels?”
     
    Ask not for whom the twitter tweets, my friend - it tweets for thee.

    Take him to court Steve, sue his ass!

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    "Take him to court Steve, sue his ass!"

    Seems to me like a good way to spend a lot of money for uncertain benefit, but I don't know enough about the US legal system. Need a pro bono or no win no fee lawyer?

    Remember "Nazi" these days has been redefined by elite journos and pols as "noticer of patterns, esp racial ones" which Steve certainly falls under.

    I prefer the "patient shrug, for sufferance is the badge" approach.
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  69. J.Ross says: • Website
    @anon
    I miss the days when these people at least tried to follow the first corollary to Godwin's Law.

    So, now that Podhoretz the Lesser has linked to this post, are any of his fans here, reading the comments? Would any of them like to defend this buffoon? What value do you get from reading him, if any?

    Nobody has ever followed Godwin’s Law, least of all Pod[horetz] people. Godwin’s Law is an observation about nature like Newton’s First Law of Mechanics rather than a prohibition like Hailey’s Law.

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    I've always wondered -- does one break, invoke or fulfill Godwin's Law?
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  70. Luke Lea says:

    To understand what happens to people’s minds when their whole worldview is threatened I recently listened to this video lecture, “How Christianity Is Replaced with Something Bigger,” by Jordan Peterson, whom I am just now beginning to appreciate. It is about the rise of Stalinism and Nazism, or rather about how ideological aggression leading to human atrocities — including the Holocaust and Holodomor — are possible in the wake of the collapse of a once stable way of understanding the world. (Not that I truly understand what Jpod’s worldview is.)

    https://goo.gl/oJP8pw

    Rather than laughing at the panic of our governing elites it might be better (and safer) to view them more sympathetically. We are not the ogres they think we are.

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    Angry because he was implicitly accused of lack of patriotism and in relation to 'ethnocentrism', by a guy with probably not the ideal track record (although it looks like Podhoretz was the first to attack in this case).

    Podhoretz as most people with his views, is likely to be patriotic. He at least looks like a character, who can not survive five minutes outside his comfortable American bubble and fastfood chain.

    The problem is that he does not present rational arguments, and can only present emotional and identity politics justifications for his (most normal people would see as incorrect) position on immigration policy.

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  71. @anon
    I miss the days when these people at least tried to follow the first corollary to Godwin's Law.

    So, now that Podhoretz the Lesser has linked to this post, are any of his fans here, reading the comments? Would any of them like to defend this buffoon? What value do you get from reading him, if any?

    It seems he has “chutzpah”, as defined by Wiki. That has value. Keep it up, John.

    Neil

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  72. Danindc says:
    @Bugg
    "Stephen Miller is a hero".

    Right now Rob Gronkowski is more of a wit than JPod.

    Lol. That’s a good line.

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  73. D. K. says:
    @Dr. X

    He is calling you “Goebbels;” Miller is the defendant whom you are defending.
     
    Yeah, but who does that make Miller, then?

    Himmler?

    But Miller's a Jew. How could Steve be a latter-day Goebbels if he's defending the Jew Miller?

    Oh, this is all just so confusing when everyone's a "Nazi"!!!

    Miller stands accused of being a self-hating Jew, by virtue of his failing to support perpetually open borders, thereby putting the interests of his fellow Americans above those of his fellow Jews.

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  74. Lot says:
    @Canadian Observer
    Jpod’s tactic is dirty, but it works a lot. Jews and blacks know it’s the kryptonite they can use on the white gentile anytime to put him in his place.

    Jews also see themselves as the ultimate arbiters of who qualify as Good Whites and who don’t. But I wouldn’t worry about it too much Steve. It’s kinda hard to “Goy, Bye” an independent blogger.

    Do you and Mr. Podhoretz have any mutual friends who can help mediate this fracas and nip it in the bud? Lawsuits are ugly.

    There is no to little risk to Steve of defamation suits. California has very strong free speech laws and weak defamation laws.

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  75. Danindc says:
    @Anonymous
    Sounds like a legitimate lawsuit against John Podhoretz to me. Seriously.

    That would put a great big bow around Trump’s ascendancy and America First philosophy. Please do it Steve.

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  76. Danindc says:
    @Mr. Anon

    How does jpod have 121K twitter followers? Is he that influential? Steve doesn’t even have 18K.
     
    Actually at least half his followers are japanese girls who typed in "JPop" but it got autocorrected.

    Untalented narcissists like JPod buy followers. He does have name recognition with Normies though…

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  77. Lot says:
    @Whiskey
    Not really. See Jewish flight from post colonial Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Algeria, Tunisia etc. Lack of White control equals Jewish flight.

    Jews chose certain death to living in the Dominican Republic is SS St Louis.

    Me I'd have taken Trujillo's offer.

    The SS St Louis “no thanks, Nazi Germany sounds better than the DR” does not seem plausible. They likely believed the ship would stop elsewhere in the Western Hemisphere, the UK, Canada, or a neutral country like Ireland.

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    The SS St Louis “no thanks, Nazi Germany sounds better than the DR” does not seem plausible. They likely believed the ship would stop elsewhere in the Western Hemisphere, the UK, Canada, or a neutral country like Ireland.

    But if you're really in fear of your life why take that risk?

    The real lesson of the S.S. St Louis...is that only white goy nations are obliged to learn any lesson at all from it. How many Syrian refugees has Israel admitted? Not enough to prove it has taken to heart the "lessons of the S.S. St Louis."

    And all the passengers on that ship did find refuge outside of Nazi Germany. The only problem was that Nazi Germany eventually overran most or all of those countries.
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  78. Clyde says:

    JPod at Wikipedia:

    At The Weekly Standard, one staff member said, Podhoretz’s “arrogance and egotism had a psychological effect people can’t quite believe.” At The Washington Times a colleague reported, he was “permanently frozen in juvenalia.” Glenn Garvin, the Central American bureau chief of the Miami Herald, once said that at the Times, Podhoretz “constantly complained that his brilliance wasn’t appreciated.”[4]

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  79. The alt-right / red-pill movements have made the neocons obsolete. It is all about race and sex now and relics like Jpud just don’t fit in anymore.

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  80. Lot says:
    @Lagertha
    I was called a Nazi when I was 19 by another student at a religion course/class at one of the most obnoxious liberal arts Universities. All I said, in the late 70's: "at some point, Israel needs to give up the WB & Gaza Strip, because, before the World Wars, Palestinians were predominately, Bedouin tribes who lived in moving tent towns, but, the land that they move about in, well, they consider that their homeland." I have to say, the professor stood up for me...because several guys ( I was one of 2 women) were screaming at me, calling me (wait for it) a blonde Nazi! - hmmm? I need to look up who those MeToo guys were/are now! But that was the first time when I saw the hostility to anyone who does not "toe the line" of a new supremacy I never knew existed.

    Haha...I win! After 40 years, from that frosh course, Palestine and Israel are still a mess.

    You were right it turned out about the Gaza Strip. They dragged every one of hundreds of Jewish settlers out of there, surrounded by even more angry supporters. Now 100% Palestinian and run under Sharia law by a terrorist organization that has broad popular support.

    “before the World Wars, Palestinians were predominately, Bedouin tribes who lived in moving tent towns,”

    That is just not accurate. “Palestinians” are mostly Arabs from elsewhere who did not arrive much before the Jews came back. Bedouin tribes certainly existed, then and now, but they are quite distinct from the Syrian/Egyptian/Circassian/Jordanian mix that is typical there. Bedouins have relatively good relations with Israel.

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    So who lived in Palestine in 500AD, 1,000AD, 1,500AD and 17,00AD?

    It could not have been all Christian pilgrims
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  81. Mr. Anon says:

    That’s too bad about Neil Diamond. To be 77 and still touring is pretty good. I hope he can manage the Parkinsons okay.

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    I'm A Believer (the Monkees version)
    Brother Love's Traveling Salvation Show
    Sweet Caroline
    , @anon
    When I was younger, my parents took me to see a musical act at a fair called "The Black Diamond".

    Based on the context, you've probably guessed what it was: a black guy doing a Neil Diamond tribute act. At the time, though, I was a little surprised at how direct the guy's name was.

    He was pretty good, even though I wasn't the biggest Neil Diamond fan (though, what teenager is?). It looks like he's still around, too.
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  82. Wilkey says:

    I’d like Podhoretz to explain, in detail, what policies he supports and what policies he opposes in regards to American immigration policy, and then give the his same take on Israeli immigration policy.

    From what I can tell, Donald Trump’s immigration policy wish list is well to the left of actual, current Israeli immigration policy; but somehow Trump’s policy is racist but Netanyahu’s is not.

    It would be hard for Podhoretz to argue that he’s American and therefore Israeli immigration policy is none of his business, given that he happens to think that the policy of every other foreign country on pretty much everything is his business.

    And if you’re bothering to read this JPod (and we know you are) feel free to add some comments in your defense. Sailer has shown the willingness to fight on your turf. When are you going to show the courage to fight on his?

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    I’d like Podhoretz to explain, in detail, what policies he supports and what policies he opposes in regards to American immigration policy, and then give the his same take on Israeli immigration policy.

    From what I can tell, Donald Trump’s immigration policy wish list is well to the left of actual, current Israeli immigration policy; but somehow Trump’s policy is racist but Netanyahu’s is not.
     

    Neither Trump, nor Netanyahu are racist. Neither immigration policy proposed by these politicians is anything than sensible.

    The answer to that part of question is clear.

    As for Podhoretz. He is no Plato or Aristotle. His father is the reason he has a job (the father is apparently more intelligent - also supported Trump).

    In another life the son Podhoretz (born to a different father), would be working as a dishwasher, or something of that level.

    As for if he is a contradiction on this issue.

    The emotional view for him is to identify with the immigrants. (I myself like to identify with immigrants and underdogs, but I can also work out when this makes no sense when it comes to a government deciding what kind of people will improve the country.) He also emotionally should support Israel as it is a state designed for him and his coreligionists. But it's not a patriotism issue here - I would trust that he is pro-Israel or pro-American (He hates Russia though). I would not trust this guy in government - (whether you put him in the US, Israel, Russia, or any other country) - to be strong on immigration, since it is obviously against his worldview.

    , @Unladen Swallow
    JPod is the living embodiment of regression to the mean, although it's incredible that there could that much in only one generation. He would never post on here. His fat corpulent head would explode trying to explain how Steve is a loser when Steve's strategy won Trump the Presidency, the same guy who is now is staring down and making blink Schumer and the Dems in Congress and the RINOS in his own party. This is something the Bushes never managed to do in 12 years in the White House, among other facts like ones you mentioned.
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  83. Dmitry says:

    Well I’d like to defend Sailer since Podhoretz is a complete juvenile, talentless idiot (despite being an elderly man), while Sailer’s political views are probably sensible.

    But after my months here, I notice every other day Sailer posts this obsession with the same Jewish liberals or militaristic-liberal-interventionalists (in Stephens/Podhoretz’s case) , and their alleged ethnocentrism.*

    What I see is some kind of boring obsession between the two sides, both of them pushing half-truths (to be charitable) in a mirror like way. Then trying to rally support for venting the various prejudices from the less attractive folks that follow the blog.

    Since an idiot like Podhoretz manages to get good ‘jobs’ in journalism, apparently through nepotism – it is understandable that there is a righteous jealously.

    Meanwhile what should be more talented writers are here on this unpaid blog-site. But then again, there was the option to have got a real job. Opinion journalism is not a job but a hobby (and not even a serious hobby – it requires less intelligence than playing Checkers). All us here who do real work are posting plenty on forums like this for free as well.

    By this stage, most adults should be aware that political/opinion journalists are no more authoritative than listening to political analysis of your last taxi driver. And that political journalism, is not more objective than the text you read on the paid campaign billboards during elections.

    It is at best a form of entertainment, and it just requires most of the electorate to be a bit more skeptical. I don’t see an ‘Atlantic article’ from Julia Ioffe as any different some random youtube comment (the random youtube comments are more likely to make sense these days).

    * I won’t repost again about what activities these guys are doing and funding in Israel.

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    You, like other high-achieving immigrants, tend to have an unique and truly multicultural viewpoint without any of the usual blinders. Born in a different culture, then having to understand yet another has forced you to evaluate the strength and weaknesses of both in a neutral way.

    This can't be expected for anyone else, and especially for fringe sites, which are particularly likely to draw the mentally ill and the underachieving, who couple nostalgia with emotional relief from being able to bash the "other."

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  84. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Lot
    There is no to little risk to Steve of defamation suits. California has very strong free speech laws and weak defamation laws.

    You study the laws, I’ll study the judges.

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  85. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Hey, JPod, are you sure your libel insurance covers Twitter? Why don’t you ponder that overnight?

    That’s pretty oblivious commentary. Can you imagine how a libel trial would look with your writings under the microscope? That post you once did mocking Obama’s aunt on her death with a big image of her face in an unflattering light would be trotted out. You would look bad and not prevail.

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    “That’s why they play the games” (sports adage)
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  87. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    It’s a Stephen Miller meme now, apparently.

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    That's a vile slander by that Marchioness bitch. Miller sure is having a lot of s**t thrown at him simply for being a thoughtful, rational guy who is just looking out for the interests of Americas historic white majority (and its historic black minority).

    And her vaporing about what economists think is pretty fuuny.
    , @J.Ross
    It sort of already was: the most famous Miller meme prior to this was him subtitled with a Goebbels quote ("Our patience has its limits ... we'll shut their lying mouths!"). But the whole point of that was pointing up absurdity, not seriously proposing that they were similar.
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  88. Wilkey says:
    @Lot
    The SS St Louis "no thanks, Nazi Germany sounds better than the DR" does not seem plausible. They likely believed the ship would stop elsewhere in the Western Hemisphere, the UK, Canada, or a neutral country like Ireland.

    The SS St Louis “no thanks, Nazi Germany sounds better than the DR” does not seem plausible. They likely believed the ship would stop elsewhere in the Western Hemisphere, the UK, Canada, or a neutral country like Ireland.

    But if you’re really in fear of your life why take that risk?

    The real lesson of the S.S. St Louis…is that only white goy nations are obliged to learn any lesson at all from it. How many Syrian refugees has Israel admitted? Not enough to prove it has taken to heart the “lessons of the S.S. St Louis.”

    And all the passengers on that ship did find refuge outside of Nazi Germany. The only problem was that Nazi Germany eventually overran most or all of those countries.

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    "But if you’re really in fear of your life why take that risk?"

    90% chance of living in the West/10% chance of death is better than 100% chance of DR.
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  89. I would agree that his comments are libelous. I’m not a lawyer but I took a 1st Amendment class in grad school. The key question is whether Sailer is a public figure. I’m not sure he is. If he isn’t, Jpod could be in a lot of trouble here. I would be delighted to see him ruined. Release the hounds…

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    Judging by the Erdely vs Eramo trial, Steve could be deemed a limited-purpose public figure.
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  90. whorefinder says: • Website
    @Achmed E. Newman
    I guess this tweeting is worse than emailing in terms of people, the President included, spitting out words on impulse. They (whoever they are) used to warn people to not send emails in haste, especially ones written in anger. Back with snail mail letters one had quite a bit of time while putting them in envelopes, licking stamps and bringing them to the mailbox to retract it all and throw them out.

    Of course internet commenting on blogs is not a whole lot better - we've got 5 minutes to take it all back.

    Of course internet commenting on blogs is not a whole lot better – we’ve got 5 minutes to take it all back.

    And since the NSA has a giant facility in Utah illegally mining all our computers for data and manned by chirpy, loyal-to-the-government Mormons, I’m guessing they record even the posts we delete. For potential “insurance plans” if any of us get a wee bit of power or money or following.

    Back with snail mail letters one had quite a bit of time while putting them in envelopes, licking stamps and bringing them to the mailbox to retract it all and throw them out.

    Two stories. First, Abraham Lincoln used to write a lot of letters he never sent, and some were found among his papers after he died. Generally, when faced with a blundering general or a stubborn court opponent (during his private practice days) or a political dude just not giving him the vote, Abe would write blistering, nasty letters to them, getting it all out on paper, but would lock them away for a few days afterwards till his anger was spent and he could reread them and decide if it would be helpful for him to send it. Often times he never sent them, hence how his admirers grew to believe he seldom got angry and/or didn’t get petty and insulting; he was in fact very petty and angry many times, but managed to release his anger in ways that wouldn’t hurt him down the line.

    Second, intellectuals of the past often would play chess by snail mail. Nerds would agree to a game, and then mail each other their moves one at a time, with the other side getting to analyze it from all sides and then mail back their own counter move, and so on. English and Scottish intellectuals used to do this between one another once the Act of Union took place and the Scottish Enlightenment began and post between various British cities was more stable. Humorously, despite the best efforts, often times there were massive “Do’oh!” moments in these games were a group of intellectuals on one end, after weeks of analysis, would totally miss the obvious setup the other side was attempting to make, and games might end much faster than we might anticipate.

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    It's funny you mentioned the postal chess, whorefinder, as I am somewhat familiar. I believe a postcard was 6 cents to mail, and one (not me, but again, I am familiar) could buy a stack of cards with the chessboard on it, just to keep the move unambiguous. They could be some pretty serious games, as one had a coupla days to make a move (I think there was some rule about how long a time before a forfeit, but I recall the people were nice and would make sure a card didn't possibly get lost in the mail.)

    Keep in mind, any readers who care, that without email, and with long-distance phone calls costing a serious amount of money, keeping in contact was almost solely via postcards.

    BTW, the players did not have to be intellectuals, per se, but "nerdy", yeah most likely.
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  91. Mr. Anon says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    It's a Stephen Miller meme now, apparently.

    https://twitter.com/previouslife17/status/955322911606403072

    That’s a vile slander by that Marchioness bitch. Miller sure is having a lot of s**t thrown at him simply for being a thoughtful, rational guy who is just looking out for the interests of Americas historic white majority (and its historic black minority).

    And her vaporing about what economists think is pretty fuuny.

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  92. Dmitry says:
    @Wilkey
    I'd like Podhoretz to explain, in detail, what policies he supports and what policies he opposes in regards to American immigration policy, and then give the his same take on Israeli immigration policy.

    From what I can tell, Donald Trump's immigration policy wish list is well to the left of actual, current Israeli immigration policy; but somehow Trump's policy is racist but Netanyahu's is not.

    It would be hard for Podhoretz to argue that he's American and therefore Israeli immigration policy is none of his business, given that he happens to think that the policy of every other foreign country on pretty much everything is his business.

    And if you're bothering to read this JPod (and we know you are) feel free to add some comments in your defense. Sailer has shown the willingness to fight on your turf. When are you going to show the courage to fight on his?

    I’d like Podhoretz to explain, in detail, what policies he supports and what policies he opposes in regards to American immigration policy, and then give the his same take on Israeli immigration policy.

    From what I can tell, Donald Trump’s immigration policy wish list is well to the left of actual, current Israeli immigration policy; but somehow Trump’s policy is racist but Netanyahu’s is not.

    Neither Trump, nor Netanyahu are racist. Neither immigration policy proposed by these politicians is anything than sensible.

    The answer to that part of question is clear.

    As for Podhoretz. He is no Plato or Aristotle. His father is the reason he has a job (the father is apparently more intelligent – also supported Trump).

    In another life the son Podhoretz (born to a different father), would be working as a dishwasher, or something of that level.

    As for if he is a contradiction on this issue.

    The emotional view for him is to identify with the immigrants. (I myself like to identify with immigrants and underdogs, but I can also work out when this makes no sense when it comes to a government deciding what kind of people will improve the country.) He also emotionally should support Israel as it is a state designed for him and his coreligionists. But it’s not a patriotism issue here – I would trust that he is pro-Israel or pro-American (He hates Russia though). I would not trust this guy in government – (whether you put him in the US, Israel, Russia, or any other country) – to be strong on immigration, since it is obviously against his worldview.

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  93. @Wilkey
    I'd like Podhoretz to explain, in detail, what policies he supports and what policies he opposes in regards to American immigration policy, and then give the his same take on Israeli immigration policy.

    From what I can tell, Donald Trump's immigration policy wish list is well to the left of actual, current Israeli immigration policy; but somehow Trump's policy is racist but Netanyahu's is not.

    It would be hard for Podhoretz to argue that he's American and therefore Israeli immigration policy is none of his business, given that he happens to think that the policy of every other foreign country on pretty much everything is his business.

    And if you're bothering to read this JPod (and we know you are) feel free to add some comments in your defense. Sailer has shown the willingness to fight on your turf. When are you going to show the courage to fight on his?

    JPod is the living embodiment of regression to the mean, although it’s incredible that there could that much in only one generation. He would never post on here. His fat corpulent head would explode trying to explain how Steve is a loser when Steve’s strategy won Trump the Presidency, the same guy who is now is staring down and making blink Schumer and the Dems in Congress and the RINOS in his own party. This is something the Bushes never managed to do in 12 years in the White House, among other facts like ones you mentioned.

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    JPod is the living embodiment of regression to the mean, although it’s incredible that there could that much in only one generation.
     
    True - but not that incredible. There's also Bill Kristol.

    One might have disagreed with Norman Podhoretz or Irving Kristol, but still had to respect their intellects. Not so with their sons! They have followed their fathers as worthily as Commodus did Marcus Aurelius.

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  94. Lurker says:
    @Polynikes
    What if my family immigrated pre-1865? Do I get to have slaves?

    Congratulations – you get to pay the reparations.

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  95. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Dave Pinsen
    It's a Stephen Miller meme now, apparently.

    https://twitter.com/previouslife17/status/955322911606403072

    It sort of already was: the most famous Miller meme prior to this was him subtitled with a Goebbels quote (“Our patience has its limits … we’ll shut their lying mouths!”). But the whole point of that was pointing up absurdity, not seriously proposing that they were similar.

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  96. Wilkey says:
    @27 year old

    How does jpod have 121K twitter followers?
     
    A lot (a lot) of them are fake, and many are White Right accounts who follow him just so they can call out stuff like this.

    If you look at his engagement on more typical tweets you see likes and replies that look more in line with what someone with 1000 or 10,000 followers would get.

    I would have no idea who Jpod was if Steve had never mentioned him. I'll be generous and say there are probably 100,000 people who know who jpod is and who agree with the things he says - but there aren't 100,000 of them of twitter for damn sure.

    Commentary magazine claims 33,000 circulation monthly. Actually monthly readers, probably way below that.

    These establishment pontificator all buy followers, nobody cares what they say. A

    I would have no idea who Jpod was if Steve had never mentioned him. I’ll be generous and say there are probably 100,000 people who know who jpod is and who agree with the things he says – but there aren’t 100,000 of them of twitter for damn sure.

    Most of the people who know of PodPerson know him from his days at NRO (where he acquired the JPod handle, iirc) before he was given the job at Commentary. Since he left NRO it’s doubtful anyone gives a shit. When he was at NRO he routinely clashed with John Derbyshire. Derbyshire actually bothered to post interesting stuff, while PodPerson was boring as hell (and obnoxiously rude to anyone who emailed him, as I did a time or two).

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  97. Lurker says:
    @O. Zerk

    I just blocked Steve Sailer because, you know, he's basically a Nazi.— John Podhoretz (@jpodhoretz) January 23, 2018
     

    The redundant ‘you know’ really does make him sound like, you know, a whiny teen girl.

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    And the "basically."
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  98. @Flip
    Steve is one of the most insightful public intellectuals in America.

    True. I believe Te’Genius Coates described our Steve as “America’s most foremost public intellectual.”

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  99. Hey, JPod, are you sure your libel insurance covers Twitter? Why don’t you ponder that overnight?

    I’ve been looking for a case like this for a long time. Racism is a “loathsome disease”. An allegation of racism is libel per se under the common law. No need to prove damages. The jury can award any amount it wants to. File your suit in Texas or Ohio, but preferably Texas since that’s where I’m licensed. And we get to pick the county. And he has to prove you you’re racist rather than vice versa.

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  100. @whorefinder
    JPod's mental health is in question now.

    You and Miller and Trump and the Alt-Right are causing him deep distress, and his normal reaction is to spit out caustic words, out-group you, and fulminate for several hundred words about how awful you guys are. Normally, when he does that for long enough against the BadWhites, he succeeds in banishing you.

    But the old magic spells aren't working anymore. And JPod's brain is tired from trying so hard. So now though his impulse is to fleck spittle at you, he's down to just repeating curse words without structuring them into logical sentences or coherent arguments. He's quite clearly exhausted at trying to unperson us all. He's getting close to a breakdown.

    But if you look at the Anti-Defamation League or the Berkeley professors, and there are plenty of others, it’s the Sam Ervin story. You know you can’t deal with the material. Either you ignore it, or if you can’t ignore it, then defame the speaker. That’s the only way you can deal with it if you don’t have the brains or the knowledge or you just know your position can’t be defended. I think that’s understandable, and in a sense you can appreciate it. That’s just the hallmark of the commissar.

    –Noam Chomsky

    These people are in trouble. This shit just doesn’t work on the internet generation. JPOD cannot command from on high who’s allowed to be heard and who isn’t. He’s using the same platform as 12 year old girls with bedazzled iphones, only the latter are typically more adept.

    That’s a far cry from the days when WFB could excommunicate people from conservatism, inc. or make David Brooks career because he knew how to suck up at cocktail parties or whatever (the world is waiting on Brooks to reveal any other talent or job skill).

    The old way was exceedingly anti-intellectual and when the dinosaurs use the same shtick now (“you’re not ALLOWED to read/reference him!”) they’re only tarring themselves with the brush of disgrace.

    Kids raised on social media are not moved by the feigned incredulous stare (a nazi, oh my stars! I just couldn’t bear it if he were allowed to post on the same internet as me).

    I’ve seen this tactic used on the curious but unsure and it bombs miserably–precisely the opposite of what the dinosaurs think, that they can bully those lacking confidence or commitment. These idiots are doing our work for us. All we do is tell them, “oh, you don’t need to go full alt-right. just keep your eyes open because they’re bullshitting you and once you see it you can’t unsee it.” So what happens when they go from the alt-right, where we were interested in having an honest conversation with the open-minded, to then try the same with our opponents? All theyre going to get is, “NAZIS! WITCHES! YOURE NOT ALLOWED TO MENTION THEM!” and the penny begins to drop.

    Pinker recognizes the danger in conceding something as important as the truth. I’m not sure most of the mainstream gets it.

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    That's a great Chomsky quote.And now I know who Sam Ervin was, too. Thanks.
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  101. “Reprllant” will never surpass “pwned” (will anything?), but it’s pretty damn funny.

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  102. Lurker says:
    @istevefan
    How does jpod have 121K twitter followers? Is he that influential? Steve doesn't even have 18K.

    I just had a look at JPod via my Twitter. Where I learn that JPlod has 6 followers I know. It’s safe to say none of them are his fans. Or they are phony accounts, I only recognise two of them as definitely legit.

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  103. anonymous • Disclaimer says: • Website

    OFF TOPIC:

    Cops say officer pushed people at concert, wouldn’t leave

    PORTLAND, Maine (AP) – Authorities in Massachusetts say a Maine police officer accused officers of racial profiling as they arrested her for pushing through a concert crowd and refusing to leave after being asked dozens of time. Worcester police arrested 24-year-old Portland officer Zahra Munye Abu on Saturday night at a Ja Rule and Ashanti concert.

    The Worcester Telegram and Gazette reports that police say Abu was escorted out after she grabbed the head of security by the front of his shirt. She was charged with misdemeanors, including assault and battery, resisting arrest and disorderly conduct.

    Abu is the first Somali immigrant to become a Maine police officer. Portland police say she is on paid administrative leave.

    Worcester police say they don’t know if Abu has a lawyer. Several phone calls and emails to Abu and family members weren’t immediately returned.

    Bumper sticker I saw in Minneapolis — SUPPORT YOUR IMPORTED POLICE!

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    I'm terrible, but I really I wish she'd engage Maine's first Somali immigrant to pass their bar exam as the lawyer to handle her defense.
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  104. BenKenobi says:
    @J.Ross
    Nobody has ever followed Godwin's Law, least of all Pod[horetz] people. Godwin's Law is an observation about nature like Newton's First Law of Mechanics rather than a prohibition like Hailey's Law.

    I’ve always wondered — does one break, invoke or fulfill Godwin’s Law?

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    Godwin's Law in the popular imagination is that you "lose" when you say "Nazi." Actually Godwin's law is that

    the longer an argument goes, the more likely it is that one or both sides will be compared to Nazis.
     
    You don't do anything. The longevity of the argument does or does not illustrate the law depending on its length.
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  105. Dmitry says:
    @Luke Lea
    To understand what happens to people's minds when their whole worldview is threatened I recently listened to this video lecture, "How Christianity Is Replaced with Something Bigger," by Jordan Peterson, whom I am just now beginning to appreciate. It is about the rise of Stalinism and Nazism, or rather about how ideological aggression leading to human atrocities -- including the Holocaust and Holodomor -- are possible in the wake of the collapse of a once stable way of understanding the world. (Not that I truly understand what Jpod's worldview is.)

    https://goo.gl/oJP8pw

    Rather than laughing at the panic of our governing elites it might be better (and safer) to view them more sympathetically. We are not the ogres they think we are.

    Angry because he was implicitly accused of lack of patriotism and in relation to ‘ethnocentrism’, by a guy with probably not the ideal track record (although it looks like Podhoretz was the first to attack in this case).

    Podhoretz as most people with his views, is likely to be patriotic. He at least looks like a character, who can not survive five minutes outside his comfortable American bubble and fastfood chain.

    The problem is that he does not present rational arguments, and can only present emotional and identity politics justifications for his (most normal people would see as incorrect) position on immigration policy.

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  106. guest says:
    @Dr. X

    He is calling you “Goebbels;” Miller is the defendant whom you are defending.
     
    Yeah, but who does that make Miller, then?

    Himmler?

    But Miller's a Jew. How could Steve be a latter-day Goebbels if he's defending the Jew Miller?

    Oh, this is all just so confusing when everyone's a "Nazi"!!!

    There were of course rumors that Hitler himself was part-Jewish. Which Jews enjoy, for more reasons than that it would be humiliating for Hitler. Like the fact that it makes the whole tragedy even more just about them.

    Miller can be whoever. Have him be Hitler, for the purposes of this tweet, even if Trump is Otherwise Hitler. Or have there be two Hitlers, or a million. What’s the difference?

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  107. Twinkie says:
    @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/jpodhoretz/status/955640872133185537

    We should all be so lucky to have enemies such as this.

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  108. guest says:
    @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
    I haven't been around long enough to know what if anything Mr. Sailer has done or said that could to deserve a grudge that provokes such an embarrassing performance from Podhoretz.
    Mr. Miller is clearly an American who is Jewish and is trying to do the best for the country and his fellow citizens.

    Over the years it's become impossible to ignore the exaggerated sense of grievance and paranoia so common among American Jews that sees so many things as antisemitism or provocation or even as an existential threat to their very existence. This is sad because the intolerance, aggression and authoritarianism they advance to fight these phantom menaces occupying their paranoid fantasies will inevitably fuel their existence in reality.

    Their paranoid dreams could be giving birth to their worst nightmares.

    It helps to understand they’re not as serious as they appear. They’re adept at playacting.

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  109. anonymous • Disclaimer says: • Website

    He has a weird Nazi thing going.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/jpodhoretz/status/955625539343208448

    Himmler? wtf?

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  110. guest says:
    @Thea
    It's like feminists who complain the guys they sleep with treat them poorly then continue sleeping with men who treat them poorly.

    You hit the nail on the head. Their strategy is thoroughly feminine.

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  111. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Godwin’s Law.

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  112. eah says:

    Stop retweeting people trying to defend you; it’s kind of gay (so are threats of legal action) — and yes he’s calling you Goebbels — I guess most would see that as comparable to, if not worse than, “a loathsome, reprllent racist”.

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  113. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Whiskey
    Not really. See Jewish flight from post colonial Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Algeria, Tunisia etc. Lack of White control equals Jewish flight.

    Jews chose certain death to living in the Dominican Republic is SS St Louis.

    Me I'd have taken Trujillo's offer.

    Nobody in 1939 thought Hitler would try and kill all the Jews. That was unbelievable. Jews were fleeing Germany because of the threat to their liberty and property, not their lives.

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    Then tell the Jews to knock it off with the blaming us Americans for their getting concentration-camped "cuz we turned away the SS St. Louis."
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  114. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Hey, JPod, are you sure your libel insurance covers Twitter? Why don’t you ponder that overnight?
     
    That's pretty oblivious commentary. Can you imagine how a libel trial would look with your writings under the microscope? That post you once did mocking Obama's aunt on her death with a big image of her face in an unflattering light would be trotted out. You would look bad and not prevail.

    “That’s why they play the games” (sports adage)

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  115. Lot says:
    @Wilkey
    The SS St Louis “no thanks, Nazi Germany sounds better than the DR” does not seem plausible. They likely believed the ship would stop elsewhere in the Western Hemisphere, the UK, Canada, or a neutral country like Ireland.

    But if you're really in fear of your life why take that risk?

    The real lesson of the S.S. St Louis...is that only white goy nations are obliged to learn any lesson at all from it. How many Syrian refugees has Israel admitted? Not enough to prove it has taken to heart the "lessons of the S.S. St Louis."

    And all the passengers on that ship did find refuge outside of Nazi Germany. The only problem was that Nazi Germany eventually overran most or all of those countries.

    “But if you’re really in fear of your life why take that risk?”

    90% chance of living in the West/10% chance of death is better than 100% chance of DR.

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  116. Anonym says:

    JPod a wit? Maybe you are half right.

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  117. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The funny thing was he twittered a free plug for your Unz.com site right after saying–nay, proclaiming that he had to block you for the good of humanity. I am now not so sure Baby Pod isn’t promoting Sailer on the sly; though it’s possible these super-social Tweetdeck prosumers are that irony-proof. Incidentally there is nothing good about that place and I don’t know why we now consider microblogged gossip and Oh-no-you-din’t performances to be newsworthy and/or edifying…

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  118. @anonymous
    OFF TOPIC:

    Cops say officer pushed people at concert, wouldn't leave

    PORTLAND, Maine (AP) - Authorities in Massachusetts say a Maine police officer accused officers of racial profiling as they arrested her for pushing through a concert crowd and refusing to leave after being asked dozens of time. Worcester police arrested 24-year-old Portland officer Zahra Munye Abu on Saturday night at a Ja Rule and Ashanti concert.

    The Worcester Telegram and Gazette reports that police say Abu was escorted out after she grabbed the head of security by the front of his shirt. She was charged with misdemeanors, including assault and battery, resisting arrest and disorderly conduct.

    Abu is the first Somali immigrant to become a Maine police officer. Portland police say she is on paid administrative leave.

    Worcester police say they don't know if Abu has a lawyer. Several phone calls and emails to Abu and family members weren't immediately returned.
     
    Bumper sticker I saw in Minneapolis — SUPPORT YOUR IMPORTED POLICE!

    I’m terrible, but I really I wish she’d engage Maine’s first Somali immigrant to pass their bar exam as the lawyer to handle her defense.

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  119. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Bragadocious
    I would agree that his comments are libelous. I'm not a lawyer but I took a 1st Amendment class in grad school. The key question is whether Sailer is a public figure. I'm not sure he is. If he isn't, Jpod could be in a lot of trouble here. I would be delighted to see him ruined. Release the hounds...

    Judging by the Erdely vs Eramo trial, Steve could be deemed a limited-purpose public figure.

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  120. @Neoconned
    Take him to court Steve, sue his ass!

    “Take him to court Steve, sue his ass!”

    Seems to me like a good way to spend a lot of money for uncertain benefit, but I don’t know enough about the US legal system. Need a pro bono or no win no fee lawyer?

    Remember “Nazi” these days has been redefined by elite journos and pols as “noticer of patterns, esp racial ones” which Steve certainly falls under.

    I prefer the “patient shrug, for sufferance is the badge” approach.

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    Or JPod sweats about his libel insurance overnight ...
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  121. @YetAnotherAnon
    "Take him to court Steve, sue his ass!"

    Seems to me like a good way to spend a lot of money for uncertain benefit, but I don't know enough about the US legal system. Need a pro bono or no win no fee lawyer?

    Remember "Nazi" these days has been redefined by elite journos and pols as "noticer of patterns, esp racial ones" which Steve certainly falls under.

    I prefer the "patient shrug, for sufferance is the badge" approach.

    Or JPod sweats about his libel insurance overnight …

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    Listen, if you need to subpoena me, feel free, but Achmed E. Newman is not my legal name, and also I never accept certified letters - bad, bad juju there.
    , @Neoconned
    Steve out of blind curiosity do you have libel insurance?
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  122. Coemgen says:
    @Anonymous
    Ethnocentric, patriotic, it's all very complicated with Jews.

    Jews like Podhoretz could say their pro-diversity immigration position is neo-patriotic and anti-ethnocentric because they believe American is an Idea that should be open to all the world.
    In contrast, Trumpers cling to vision of white-majority America.

    However, it could also be argued that Jewish globalists push to increase diversity in the US to further Jewish ethnocentric interests, i.e. as the ruling minority elite, Jews feel more secure in a nation without an overwhelming gentile majority.

    Trumpers cling to vision of white-majority America.

    “Trumpers” cling to a vision of–not–being ethnically-cleansed from Ameica.

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  123. @anonymouslee

    But if you look at the Anti-Defamation League or the Berkeley professors, and there are plenty of others, it’s the Sam Ervin story. You know you can’t deal with the material. Either you ignore it, or if you can’t ignore it, then defame the speaker. That’s the only way you can deal with it if you don’t have the brains or the knowledge or you just know your position can’t be defended. I think that’s understandable, and in a sense you can appreciate it. That’s just the hallmark of the commissar.
     
    --Noam Chomsky

    These people are in trouble. This shit just doesn't work on the internet generation. JPOD cannot command from on high who's allowed to be heard and who isn't. He's using the same platform as 12 year old girls with bedazzled iphones, only the latter are typically more adept.

    That's a far cry from the days when WFB could excommunicate people from conservatism, inc. or make David Brooks career because he knew how to suck up at cocktail parties or whatever (the world is waiting on Brooks to reveal any other talent or job skill).

    The old way was exceedingly anti-intellectual and when the dinosaurs use the same shtick now ("you're not ALLOWED to read/reference him!") they're only tarring themselves with the brush of disgrace.

    Kids raised on social media are not moved by the feigned incredulous stare (a nazi, oh my stars! I just couldn't bear it if he were allowed to post on the same internet as me).

    I've seen this tactic used on the curious but unsure and it bombs miserably--precisely the opposite of what the dinosaurs think, that they can bully those lacking confidence or commitment. These idiots are doing our work for us. All we do is tell them, "oh, you don't need to go full alt-right. just keep your eyes open because they're bullshitting you and once you see it you can't unsee it." So what happens when they go from the alt-right, where we were interested in having an honest conversation with the open-minded, to then try the same with our opponents? All theyre going to get is, "NAZIS! WITCHES! YOURE NOT ALLOWED TO MENTION THEM!" and the penny begins to drop.

    Pinker recognizes the danger in conceding something as important as the truth. I'm not sure most of the mainstream gets it.

    That’s a great Chomsky quote.And now I know who Sam Ervin was, too. Thanks.

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  124. IHTG says:

    JPod taking out his daddy issues on Steve.

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    yep - it must be (genuinely) hard to be such a disappointment
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  125. J.Ross says: • Website
    @BenKenobi
    I've always wondered -- does one break, invoke or fulfill Godwin's Law?

    Godwin’s Law in the popular imagination is that you “lose” when you say “Nazi.” Actually Godwin’s law is that

    the longer an argument goes, the more likely it is that one or both sides will be compared to Nazis.

    You don’t do anything. The longevity of the argument does or does not illustrate the law depending on its length.

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    It’s really Godwin’s Hypothesis, isn’t it?
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  126. rogue-one says:
    @Anonymous
    Ethnocentric, patriotic, it's all very complicated with Jews.

    Jews like Podhoretz could say their pro-diversity immigration position is neo-patriotic and anti-ethnocentric because they believe American is an Idea that should be open to all the world.
    In contrast, Trumpers cling to vision of white-majority America.

    However, it could also be argued that Jewish globalists push to increase diversity in the US to further Jewish ethnocentric interests, i.e. as the ruling minority elite, Jews feel more secure in a nation without an overwhelming gentile majority.

    It’s not just jews. From my personal experience, a lot of GoodWhites are far more fervent supporters of mass immigration and “equity” than even jews.

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    right - the difference is most of the Jews don't want the same for Israel

    so either

    1) they think diversity and mass immigration are good and they don't want it for Israel cos they are anti-Israel

    or

    2) they think diversity and mass immigration are bad for the majority group and are pr-Israel and so don't want it for Israel but if they think that but want mass immigration and diversity for every once-western nation that would imply they are actively engaged in stealth tribal warfare.

    (or to be most charitable about it, driven by uncontrollable paranoia in a way that is functionally identical to stealth tribal warfare))

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  127. Steve I will testify to how you are the most milquetoast of men and how much it annoys me if you do end up suing him.

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  128. Zogby says:

    Looking over JPod’s recent twitter I see he called Paul Nehlen a Nazi, and also said “Paul Nehlen is so annoying I think Himmler would have had him killed just to shut him up”. I found that Howard Stern is also occasionally repellent. Hogan Gidley was “a loathsome little careerist pipsqueak”. That Twitter should have a talking stick to get Seth Abramson to shut up. All this just in the last day. So it looks like Steve Sailer merely walked into the firing range of a mass shooter.

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  129. Jim Smith says:
    @istevefan
    How does jpod have 121K twitter followers? Is he that influential? Steve doesn't even have 18K.

    Mainstream media versus alternative media. Still got a ways to go.

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  130. The fact that Podhoretz has 121K followers and Steve has not quite 18K followers is upsetting. Almost as upsetting as the fact that Neil Patrick Harris has 28 million.

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  131. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    A few years back, J-Pod’s father, Norman, was embroiled in a nasty little spat with the late great Gore Vidal, the prominent American thinker and socialist.
    Rather sniffily, Norman Podhoretz proclaimed that the American Civil War ‘had as about much relevance to him as the War of the Roses’.

    This *really* raised Vidal’s ire. Vidal wrote whole essays denouncing Podoheretz’s philistinism and ignorance, using throughout the epithet ‘Poddy’ in place of the alphabet soup of ‘Podhoretz’, rather as Steve uses ‘J-Pod’ to describe Podhoretz fils.

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    “Rather sniffily, Norman Podhoretz proclaimed that the American Civil War ‘had as about much relevance to him as the War of the Roses’.”

    I remember that. It also shows the hazards of mass immigration from any source, even European. A nation should never tear itself away from its own history and roots.
    , @Art Deco
    A few years back, J-Pod’s father, Norman, was embroiled in a nasty little spat with the late great Gore Vidal, the prominent American thinker and socialist.

    Gore Vidal made a great deal of money producing screenplays. He also wrote historical fiction and satire. He was not a 'thinker' in any sense.
    , @Mr. Anon

    Rather sniffily, Norman Podhoretz proclaimed that the American Civil War ‘had as about much relevance to him as the War of the Roses’.
     
    And the War of the Roses has more significance to me than the Six-Day War.
    , @Alden
    Gore Vidal was very proud of his elite old American heritage and wrote several historical novels set in early America and the 19th century.
    , @Alden
    Gore Vidal was very proud of his elite old American heritage and wrote several historical novels set in early America and the 19th century.

    Didn’t know he was a socialist. But I know he was one of those tax travelers.
    He lived 5 &1/2 months a year in Italy and 5 & 1/2 months a year in the USA and avoided income tax

    United states changed that law recently but the socialist Vidal took full advantage.
    , @Romanian
    Can you post a link to it, please? I would be interested in reading it.
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  132. bjdubbs says:

    John is employed as an editor of a magazine and yet he is an illiterate dope. It should be “Goebbels has risen” for the defense. Arise means happen, like “A problem has arisen.”

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  133. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @JimB
    JPod and Rob Reiner look like they were separated at birth. And they both talk like meatheads.

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    I dunno, I mean is being "frightened" a rational response to numerous Latino academics, politicians, and activists constantly harping on how much they want heritage America to go away, but oh by the way make sure you leave all the cool stuff you guys built over the last 250 years. Maybe "infuriated" would be more like it.
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  134. bjdubbs says:

    So Steve is Goebbels and basically a Nazi but he’s yesterday’s news because he’s not alt-right? So does that mean that the alt-right is not Nazi? John is entering diabetes induced dementia at quite a young age.

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  135. Dissident says:
    @Jake
    Pod fils is far too brilliant for us non-Chosen Race inferior types to be able to comprehend.

    Remember when the late Gore Vidal said that Barack Obama was just “too brilliant” for the American people?

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  136. The Pod had better be careful. He could end up diminishing the negative currency value of the word Nazi.

    When everyone except you and your fellow clan members is a Nazi, is Nazi still a bad word?

    It’s like how the accusational label racist has a lot of us hardly caring anymore.

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    I'd say that just as racist/racism has been overused and diminished, so has Nazi. When everyone is a racist or a Nazi, then it has lost its negative currency value, as you say. That also explains the rise of the use of "white supremacy/supremacist," as the other terms have lost their sting.

    As it is, it seems the snowflake generation, permanent adolescents, SJWs, and the PC-police, despite using such ad hominem, are the only ones triggered by said usage. It is a conundrum.

    Those of us a bit older or more mature grew up with all kinds of name-calling, and learned to ignore them, as "sticks and stones...names will never hurt us."

    Laughing in the face of a bully is a great retort.
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  137. @whorefinder

    Of course internet commenting on blogs is not a whole lot better – we’ve got 5 minutes to take it all back.
     
    And since the NSA has a giant facility in Utah illegally mining all our computers for data and manned by chirpy, loyal-to-the-government Mormons, I'm guessing they record even the posts we delete. For potential "insurance plans" if any of us get a wee bit of power or money or following.


    Back with snail mail letters one had quite a bit of time while putting them in envelopes, licking stamps and bringing them to the mailbox to retract it all and throw them out.
     
    Two stories. First, Abraham Lincoln used to write a lot of letters he never sent, and some were found among his papers after he died. Generally, when faced with a blundering general or a stubborn court opponent (during his private practice days) or a political dude just not giving him the vote, Abe would write blistering, nasty letters to them, getting it all out on paper, but would lock them away for a few days afterwards till his anger was spent and he could reread them and decide if it would be helpful for him to send it. Often times he never sent them, hence how his admirers grew to believe he seldom got angry and/or didn't get petty and insulting; he was in fact very petty and angry many times, but managed to release his anger in ways that wouldn't hurt him down the line.

    Second, intellectuals of the past often would play chess by snail mail. Nerds would agree to a game, and then mail each other their moves one at a time, with the other side getting to analyze it from all sides and then mail back their own counter move, and so on. English and Scottish intellectuals used to do this between one another once the Act of Union took place and the Scottish Enlightenment began and post between various British cities was more stable. Humorously, despite the best efforts, often times there were massive "Do'oh!" moments in these games were a group of intellectuals on one end, after weeks of analysis, would totally miss the obvious setup the other side was attempting to make, and games might end much faster than we might anticipate.

    It’s funny you mentioned the postal chess, whorefinder, as I am somewhat familiar. I believe a postcard was 6 cents to mail, and one (not me, but again, I am familiar) could buy a stack of cards with the chessboard on it, just to keep the move unambiguous. They could be some pretty serious games, as one had a coupla days to make a move (I think there was some rule about how long a time before a forfeit, but I recall the people were nice and would make sure a card didn’t possibly get lost in the mail.)

    Keep in mind, any readers who care, that without email, and with long-distance phone calls costing a serious amount of money, keeping in contact was almost solely via postcards.

    BTW, the players did not have to be intellectuals, per se, but “nerdy”, yeah most likely.

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  138. Barnard says:
    @27 year old

    How does jpod have 121K twitter followers?
     
    A lot (a lot) of them are fake, and many are White Right accounts who follow him just so they can call out stuff like this.

    If you look at his engagement on more typical tweets you see likes and replies that look more in line with what someone with 1000 or 10,000 followers would get.

    I would have no idea who Jpod was if Steve had never mentioned him. I'll be generous and say there are probably 100,000 people who know who jpod is and who agree with the things he says - but there aren't 100,000 of them of twitter for damn sure.

    Commentary magazine claims 33,000 circulation monthly. Actually monthly readers, probably way below that.

    These establishment pontificator all buy followers, nobody cares what they say. A

    Most people on the Washington pundit circuit know who John Podhoretz is and that is more important to him than being well known with the general public. I don’t see what blocking Steve on Twitter does for him. Steve can just log out of Twitter, go to Google and read his feed just like everyone else who isn’t on Twitter.

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    What it does for him is that Steve can't respond to his tweets anymore and make him look dumb.
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  139. A Kraut kindling fire is a Kindler.
    A Kraut shingling roofs is a Schindler.
    There’s a Kraut without swine
    Who thinks it’s just fine
    If Goebbels finds out he’s a Swindler.

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  140. How can you “basically be a Nazi?” You’re either a fanatic or you’re not a Nazi.

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    There are 4 or 5 levels of Nazism, T.A. It all depends on what you want to spend. Some, like iSteve here, just get in on the basic plan. It's like $20 Reich Marks deducted from your bank account each month - hell, it's the price of a cup of latte and the parking ticket while you're drinking it. You don't get the flag or the "Salute-with-precision" DVD's or apps, but you'll get the membership card and 5 or 6 medium-size bumper-Swastikers.

    Richard Spencer payed for a level-3 membership, he must be rich.
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  141. @istevefan
    How does jpod have 121K twitter followers? Is he that influential? Steve doesn't even have 18K.

    There’s also self-selection at work. Mainstream (i.e., leftist, anti-European, etc.) pod-people care about Twitter, use it, etc. Those of us hip to reality are much more likely to eschew platforms for which we are the products (Google, Friendface, Twitter, etc.).

    Thus, for instance, I expect far more people follow Steve’s work than you might suspect based upon data from Twitter and Friendface.

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  142. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/jpodhoretz/status/955640872133185537

    Godwin’s Bailiff is a fool, but as long as he keeps giving Steve free advertising, we can’t complain too much.

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  143. @Hippopotamusdrome
    OT:


    ‘I won’t fly refugees to their deaths’: The El Al pilots resisting deportation
    ...At least three El Al pilots in recent days published public declarations of their refusal to take part in the deportation of asylum seekers
    ...“I have joined many of my good friends, in declaring that I will not fly refugees to their deaths. I won’t take part in that barbarism.”

     

    LOL, you can say "I will not fly refugees to their deaths", but just don't call their country a "shithole".

    Those pilots shouldn’t be allowed into the US anymore.

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  144. JSM says:
    @Lurker
    The redundant 'you know' really does make him sound like, you know, a whiny teen girl.

    And the “basically.”

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  145. JSM says:
    @Anonymous
    Nobody in 1939 thought Hitler would try and kill all the Jews. That was unbelievable. Jews were fleeing Germany because of the threat to their liberty and property, not their lives.

    Then tell the Jews to knock it off with the blaming us Americans for their getting concentration-camped “cuz we turned away the SS St. Louis.”

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  146. JerryC says:
    @Barnard
    Most people on the Washington pundit circuit know who John Podhoretz is and that is more important to him than being well known with the general public. I don't see what blocking Steve on Twitter does for him. Steve can just log out of Twitter, go to Google and read his feed just like everyone else who isn't on Twitter.

    What it does for him is that Steve can’t respond to his tweets anymore and make him look dumb.

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    He can still post them here and make him look dumb, which is what he was doing in the first place. I am not on Twitter and can still post another Podhoretz dumb tweet.

    https://twitter.com/jpodhoretz/status/955570411739205632

    On top of being an idiotic argument for open borders and no/low skill immigration, they only came up with two Trump advisors who they thought they could "shame" through their family's immigration history.
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  147. Corn says:
    @Anonymous
    A few years back, J-Pod's father, Norman, was embroiled in a nasty little spat with the late great Gore Vidal, the prominent American thinker and socialist.
    Rather sniffily, Norman Podhoretz proclaimed that the American Civil War 'had as about much relevance to him as the War of the Roses'.

    This *really* raised Vidal's ire. Vidal wrote whole essays denouncing Podoheretz's philistinism and ignorance, using throughout the epithet 'Poddy' in place of the alphabet soup of 'Podhoretz', rather as Steve uses 'J-Pod' to describe Podhoretz fils.

    “Rather sniffily, Norman Podhoretz proclaimed that the American Civil War ‘had as about much relevance to him as the War of the Roses’.”

    I remember that. It also shows the hazards of mass immigration from any source, even European. A nation should never tear itself away from its own history and roots.

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  148. @Achmed E. Newman
    Any publicity is good publicity, they say, so good on ya' Steve.

    (I don't know how famous this particular twitterer is though, as I've only heard of him on here and possible VDare.)

    I can’t quite follow JPod’s meaning here: is he calling me “Goebbels” or is he calling Trump speechwriter Stephen Miller “Goebbels?”
     
    Ask not for whom the twitter tweets, my friend - it tweets for thee.

    When the Tweeter tweets his twat, it’s game up.

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  149. Bugg says:
    @O. Zerk

    I just blocked Steve Sailer because, you know, he's basically a Nazi.— John Podhoretz (@jpodhoretz) January 23, 2018
     

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  150. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Dmitry
    Well I'd like to defend Sailer since Podhoretz is a complete juvenile, talentless idiot (despite being an elderly man), while Sailer's political views are probably sensible.

    But after my months here, I notice every other day Sailer posts this obsession with the same Jewish liberals or militaristic-liberal-interventionalists (in Stephens/Podhoretz's case) , and their alleged ethnocentrism.*

    What I see is some kind of boring obsession between the two sides, both of them pushing half-truths (to be charitable) in a mirror like way. Then trying to rally support for venting the various prejudices from the less attractive folks that follow the blog.

    Since an idiot like Podhoretz manages to get good 'jobs' in journalism, apparently through nepotism - it is understandable that there is a righteous jealously.

    Meanwhile what should be more talented writers are here on this unpaid blog-site. But then again, there was the option to have got a real job. Opinion journalism is not a job but a hobby (and not even a serious hobby - it requires less intelligence than playing Checkers). All us here who do real work are posting plenty on forums like this for free as well.

    By this stage, most adults should be aware that political/opinion journalists are no more authoritative than listening to political analysis of your last taxi driver. And that political journalism, is not more objective than the text you read on the paid campaign billboards during elections.

    It is at best a form of entertainment, and it just requires most of the electorate to be a bit more skeptical. I don't see an 'Atlantic article' from Julia Ioffe as any different some random youtube comment (the random youtube comments are more likely to make sense these days).

    * I won't repost again about what activities these guys are doing and funding in Israel.

    You, like other high-achieving immigrants, tend to have an unique and truly multicultural viewpoint without any of the usual blinders. Born in a different culture, then having to understand yet another has forced you to evaluate the strength and weaknesses of both in a neutral way.

    This can’t be expected for anyone else, and especially for fringe sites, which are particularly likely to draw the mentally ill and the underachieving, who couple nostalgia with emotional relief from being able to bash the “other.”

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    Who are you calling mentally ill, Anonymous? Why if I could just get these sleeves untied, I'd write you a serious reply to thrash the sweet bejesus outta ya!
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  151. Barnard says:
    @JerryC
    What it does for him is that Steve can't respond to his tweets anymore and make him look dumb.

    He can still post them here and make him look dumb, which is what he was doing in the first place. I am not on Twitter and can still post another Podhoretz dumb tweet.

    On top of being an idiotic argument for open borders and no/low skill immigration, they only came up with two Trump advisors who they thought they could “shame” through their family’s immigration history.

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    Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II drank tea and ate came with Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams, despite the fact that Adams was directly responsible for the horrific death of her close and beloved relation Lord Louis Mountbatten.

    The point is that in politics, as it exists in the real world, is all about the here and now, the imminent present which defines our lives and wellbeing, rather that which might or might not have happened n the past.
    , @Bugg
    So the immigration policy of 1902 should shape the policy in 2018. Highly logical.
    , @anon
    They're just trying to prove Bret Stephens's point that we never should have let their ancestors come here in the first place.
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  152. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross
    Godwin's Law in the popular imagination is that you "lose" when you say "Nazi." Actually Godwin's law is that

    the longer an argument goes, the more likely it is that one or both sides will be compared to Nazis.
     
    You don't do anything. The longevity of the argument does or does not illustrate the law depending on its length.

    It’s really Godwin’s Hypothesis, isn’t it?

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  153. @Almost Missouri
    Yes, let us hear from the 121K legion, ... if they actually exist.

    Just crickets.

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  154. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Barnard
    He can still post them here and make him look dumb, which is what he was doing in the first place. I am not on Twitter and can still post another Podhoretz dumb tweet.

    https://twitter.com/jpodhoretz/status/955570411739205632

    On top of being an idiotic argument for open borders and no/low skill immigration, they only came up with two Trump advisors who they thought they could "shame" through their family's immigration history.

    Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II drank tea and ate came with Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams, despite the fact that Adams was directly responsible for the horrific death of her close and beloved relation Lord Louis Mountbatten.

    The point is that in politics, as it exists in the real world, is all about the here and now, the imminent present which defines our lives and wellbeing, rather that which might or might not have happened n the past.

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    I remember hearing a story (not sure if its accurate) from the mid-1960s that when the USSR sent one of their leaders (believe it was Kosygin) to the UK, the Labour government of Harold Wilson was flummoxed that the Queen did not want to greet the visiting dignitary. Then someone pointed out that the Soviet government having murdered her cousins (Nicholas II and his family) could be a sore point for the royals.
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  155. @The Alarmist
    How can you "basically be a Nazi?" You're either a fanatic or you're not a Nazi.

    There are 4 or 5 levels of Nazism, T.A. It all depends on what you want to spend. Some, like iSteve here, just get in on the basic plan. It’s like $20 Reich Marks deducted from your bank account each month – hell, it’s the price of a cup of latte and the parking ticket while you’re drinking it. You don’t get the flag or the “Salute-with-precision” DVD’s or apps, but you’ll get the membership card and 5 or 6 medium-size bumper-Swastikers.

    Richard Spencer payed for a level-3 membership, he must be rich.

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    The revival of the KKK from 1915 onward was largely a multi-level marketing scam. This lady sales genius came up with the idea of having kleagles sell white robes to their new recruits in return for a cut.
    , @notanon
    if the western powers had stomped the bolsheviks before they murdered millions of white christians in concentration camps there would never have been a nazi party
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  156. Benjaminl says:
    @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
    I haven't been around long enough to know what if anything Mr. Sailer has done or said that could to deserve a grudge that provokes such an embarrassing performance from Podhoretz.
    Mr. Miller is clearly an American who is Jewish and is trying to do the best for the country and his fellow citizens.

    Over the years it's become impossible to ignore the exaggerated sense of grievance and paranoia so common among American Jews that sees so many things as antisemitism or provocation or even as an existential threat to their very existence. This is sad because the intolerance, aggression and authoritarianism they advance to fight these phantom menaces occupying their paranoid fantasies will inevitably fuel their existence in reality.

    Their paranoid dreams could be giving birth to their worst nightmares.

    I have no inside knowledge, but the first time I became aware of Mr. Podhoretz’s intense feelings was a sequence of exchanges in summer 2005 triggered by discussions of birthright citizenship and Hurricane Katrina:

    7/11/2005 – JPod triggered by Derb’s criticism of birthright citizenship

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/pod-lesser-birthright-pundit/

    7/13/2005 – JPod calls Sailer “a scum”

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/please-keep-attacking-me/

    7/17/2005 – Sailer cites Norman Podhoretz contra JPod

    http://www.vdare.com/articles/podhoretz-junior-vs-steve-sailer

    9/3/2005 – Sailer commits an act of Unauthorized Noticing

    http://www.vdare.com/articles/racial-reality-and-the-new-orleans-nightmare

    9/5/2005 – JPod triggered; early use of “point ‘n’ sputter”

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/thou-shalt-know-him-by-his-enemies/

    9/7/2005 – Sailer cites Commentary and AEI contra JPod

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/john-podhoretz-averts-his-maidenly/

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  157. Benjaminl says:
    @anon
    I miss the days when these people at least tried to follow the first corollary to Godwin's Law.

    So, now that Podhoretz the Lesser has linked to this post, are any of his fans here, reading the comments? Would any of them like to defend this buffoon? What value do you get from reading him, if any?

    I, at least, skimmed through the Twitter responses to his Tweet and couldn’t find almost anyone on his own side. That must be embarrassing. (Except for fellow resentful ethnocentrist Judith Shulevitz.)

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  158. @Steve Sailer
    Or JPod sweats about his libel insurance overnight ...

    Listen, if you need to subpoena me, feel free, but Achmed E. Newman is not my legal name, and also I never accept certified letters – bad, bad juju there.

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  159. @Anonymous
    You, like other high-achieving immigrants, tend to have an unique and truly multicultural viewpoint without any of the usual blinders. Born in a different culture, then having to understand yet another has forced you to evaluate the strength and weaknesses of both in a neutral way.

    This can't be expected for anyone else, and especially for fringe sites, which are particularly likely to draw the mentally ill and the underachieving, who couple nostalgia with emotional relief from being able to bash the "other."

    Who are you calling mentally ill, Anonymous? Why if I could just get these sleeves untied, I’d write you a serious reply to thrash the sweet bejesus outta ya!

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  160. Bugg says:
    @Barnard
    He can still post them here and make him look dumb, which is what he was doing in the first place. I am not on Twitter and can still post another Podhoretz dumb tweet.

    https://twitter.com/jpodhoretz/status/955570411739205632

    On top of being an idiotic argument for open borders and no/low skill immigration, they only came up with two Trump advisors who they thought they could "shame" through their family's immigration history.

    So the immigration policy of 1902 should shape the policy in 2018. Highly logical.

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  161. @Achmed E. Newman
    There are 4 or 5 levels of Nazism, T.A. It all depends on what you want to spend. Some, like iSteve here, just get in on the basic plan. It's like $20 Reich Marks deducted from your bank account each month - hell, it's the price of a cup of latte and the parking ticket while you're drinking it. You don't get the flag or the "Salute-with-precision" DVD's or apps, but you'll get the membership card and 5 or 6 medium-size bumper-Swastikers.

    Richard Spencer payed for a level-3 membership, he must be rich.

    The revival of the KKK from 1915 onward was largely a multi-level marketing scam. This lady sales genius came up with the idea of having kleagles sell white robes to their new recruits in return for a cut.

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    But in 2011, Roland G. Fryer and Steven D. Levitt, the economist co-author of Freakonomics, looked into historical statistics about KKK membership and demographic, criminal and political trends at the time. And they found something surprising: a seldom-seen side of the KKK.

    “Rather than a terrorist organization,” they wrote, “the 1920s Klan is best described as a social organization with a wildly successful multi-level marketing structure.” According to Fryer and Levitt, in its heyday, the KKK was a giant, perverse pyramid scheme. Instead of perpetrating a racist agenda, the KKK’s leaders exploited pre-existing, popular racism to make money.
     

    For their research, Fryer and Levitt compiled a database of historical KKK documents, including internal censuses, member applications, and robe order forms. They cross-referenced the names on these forms with data from the 1920 and 1930 American Censuses.

    From this database, which is consistent with previous analyses, we know that this new KKK didn’t really take off until about 1920. Then membership suddenly -- and somewhat mysteriously -- boomed. Estimates of the KKK’s size at its peak in 1924 range from 1.5 million to 4 million -- 4-15% of the eligible population.

    According to Fryer and Levitt, this boom was the result of an innovative new marketing campaign.
     

    In December of 1920, the KKK hired a PR firm, the “Southern Publicity Association,” to boost recruitment. The firm had previously represented the Salvation Army and the Anti-Saloon League, but it was close to bankruptcy.

    The incentives in the contract were good, possibly too good. Simmons had always made money off his Klansmen. He sold them $6 robes and Klan-branded life insurance policies at $53,000 a pop. He also charged his members $10 initiation fees. According to the contract, the Southern Publicity Association would get 80% of this initiation fee for every new member it signed up.


    When the Southern Publicity Association signed on, the full initiation fee was still $10, roughly equivalent to $125 in 2015. Eighty percent of the fee was $8, and roughly equivalent to $100. This meant the Southern Publicity Association could offer salesmen an attractive commission while keeping a substantial cut.

    The Southern Publicity Association quickly built and deployed a national sales force of over 1,000 “Kleagles” -- the KKK's name for its commission-paid salesmen. Every time a Kleagle recruited a new member (called a “Ghoul”), the Kleagle earned $4 of the $10 initiation fee. At first, the Southern Publicity Association sent $2 of the remaining $6 to Simmons, pocketed $2.50, and handed $1.50 to a regional supervisor called the “Great Goblin.”

     


    Soon, the whole KKK adopted the $4 Kleagle scheme, and the entitlement chain got longer. The economic structure that eventually arose looked much like a modern multi-level marketing company--with extremely stupid titles.

    The Southern Publicity Association was joined by a whole tier of “King Kleagles,” who were responsible for overseeing recruitment in each state. The King Kleagle’s share of the remaining $6 was reduced to $1. Fifty cents went to the Great Goblin, $1.25 went to a national sales manager called the “Imperial Kleagle.” Another state-level authority, the “Grand Dragon”, who was more in charge of governance than recruitment, collected $2.50, and the two heads of the KKK -- Grand Wizard Simmons, and another executive, titled the “Imperial Wizard,” split the remaining $0.75.
     

    And the Klan sold to the Klan a lot. Once a new member joined, he was not allowed to make his own robes. KKK robes only came from KKK-approved factories. They cost $2.00 to produce, and they were initially sold to members for $6.50 (about $88 in 2015). The KKK also pressured its members to purchase a lot of other racist-branded swag: life insurance, robe dry-cleaning services, helmets, Bibles, swords, and “even specially-wrapped candies with the Klan insignia on it.”

    Members also paid an annual membership fee of $5, and KKK leaders collected an “imperial” tax on all officially chartered local chapters (also known as “Klaverns”) of $1.80 per Klansman, paid out in four parts of $0.45 a year. This money went directly into the inner “Imperial” rung of the hierarchy. For a time, the Klan leaders, even at the state level, were among the best paid men in America. From Fryer and Levitt:

    “[T]he single state of Indiana generated nearly $4 million in revenues for the national headquarters. After some modest expenses, most of that revenue would go directly to the Imperial Wizard. […] [T]he head of the Indiana Klan received nearly $2.5 million annually from the state’s operations. The head of the state sales hierarchy pocketed nearly $400,000 a year. To put these numbers into perspective, in current dollars, a typical full professor during this time earned $45,000 in current dollars (Bachman 1929), Babe Ruth earned $613,000, and President Calvin Coolidge earned $885,000.”

     

    https://priceonomics.com/when-the-kkk-was-a-pyramid-scheme/
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    Haha, I was gonna go on like that,but figured brevity is good sometimes. Now, we should all keep in mind, they are not Pyramid Schemes, it's all just multi-level marketing OK, at the worst they are tetrahedronal schemes - GET IN NOW!

    Personally, I'm more of a rectangular prism scheme guy - some call it free markets.

    Man, I can't find the good clip on youtube of The Office for this. You've got to put up with the main characters' faces being blocked due to copyright stuff(?)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqgd8dC7xa8


    Holy moley, I thought you were joking - just read synonreduxes comment.
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  162. Mr. Sailer:

    While it would nice to shake Podhoretz for some shekels, allow a real live lawyer (CA. SBN 250737) to recommend against it. Wouldn’t work out for you at all.

    Thank you for your awesomeness. Like Mencius Moldbug, I too am a Sailerist.

    Warm regards,

    Adi

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  163. syonredux says:
    @syonredux
    America's Leading Wit Does It Again

    I can’t quite follow JPod’s meaning here: is he calling me “Goebbels” or is he calling Trump speechwriter Stephen Miller “Goebbels?”

    JPod was more lucid back in August when he was calling me “a loathsome, reprllent racist filth” for daring to joke about the political correctness of Weinstein Brothers’ movies:
     
    Steve, you've gotta lend this guy a hand. Right now, it's like out-witting someone who's been concussed a few times too many. Maybe you could tell him that's he's making his co-ethnics look bad... send him some books to study by Dorothy Parker and SJ Perelman....Maybe that might bring his game up a notch....

    I’m not triggered! I’ve lived in enemy territory all my life!

    Since, to the best of my knowledge, JPod has lived in the USA all his life…does this mean that he regards the USA as “enemy territory?”

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    I think he's pretty much lived on the Upper West Side of Manhattan all his life, alongside his fellow co-ethnics. Perhaps because it's been called Moscow-on-the-Hudson, it's the communists he considered his enemies...

    Otherwise, a rather bizarre verbal eruption.
    , @guest
    One really shouldn't use an exclamation point at the end of the sentence "I'm not triggered." It sounds like:

    Them: You're in denial.

    You: No I'm not!

    To answer your question, the U.S. is full of white people, and white people committed the holocaust. So yes, enemy territory.
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  164. syonredux says:

    I just blocked Steve Sailer because, you know, he’s basically a Nazi.

    You’re in illustrious company, Steve. After all, if you’re a Nazi, then that means that FDR, Theodore Roosevelt, and Eisenhower were also Nazis….

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  165. syonredux says:
    @Steve Sailer
    The revival of the KKK from 1915 onward was largely a multi-level marketing scam. This lady sales genius came up with the idea of having kleagles sell white robes to their new recruits in return for a cut.

    But in 2011, Roland G. Fryer and Steven D. Levitt, the economist co-author of Freakonomics, looked into historical statistics about KKK membership and demographic, criminal and political trends at the time. And they found something surprising: a seldom-seen side of the KKK.

    “Rather than a terrorist organization,” they wrote, “the 1920s Klan is best described as a social organization with a wildly successful multi-level marketing structure.” According to Fryer and Levitt, in its heyday, the KKK was a giant, perverse pyramid scheme. Instead of perpetrating a racist agenda, the KKK’s leaders exploited pre-existing, popular racism to make money.

    For their research, Fryer and Levitt compiled a database of historical KKK documents, including internal censuses, member applications, and robe order forms. They cross-referenced the names on these forms with data from the 1920 and 1930 American Censuses.

    From this database, which is consistent with previous analyses, we know that this new KKK didn’t really take off until about 1920. Then membership suddenly — and somewhat mysteriously — boomed. Estimates of the KKK’s size at its peak in 1924 range from 1.5 million to 4 million — 4-15% of the eligible population.

    According to Fryer and Levitt, this boom was the result of an innovative new marketing campaign.

    In December of 1920, the KKK hired a PR firm, the “Southern Publicity Association,” to boost recruitment. The firm had previously represented the Salvation Army and the Anti-Saloon League, but it was close to bankruptcy.

    The incentives in the contract were good, possibly too good. Simmons had always made money off his Klansmen. He sold them $6 robes and Klan-branded life insurance policies at $53,000 a pop. He also charged his members $10 initiation fees. According to the contract, the Southern Publicity Association would get 80% of this initiation fee for every new member it signed up.

    When the Southern Publicity Association signed on, the full initiation fee was still $10, roughly equivalent to $125 in 2015. Eighty percent of the fee was $8, and roughly equivalent to $100. This meant the Southern Publicity Association could offer salesmen an attractive commission while keeping a substantial cut.

    The Southern Publicity Association quickly built and deployed a national sales force of over 1,000 “Kleagles” — the KKK’s name for its commission-paid salesmen. Every time a Kleagle recruited a new member (called a “Ghoul”), the Kleagle earned $4 of the $10 initiation fee. At first, the Southern Publicity Association sent $2 of the remaining $6 to Simmons, pocketed $2.50, and handed $1.50 to a regional supervisor called the “Great Goblin.”

    Soon, the whole KKK adopted the $4 Kleagle scheme, and the entitlement chain got longer. The economic structure that eventually arose looked much like a modern multi-level marketing company–with extremely stupid titles.

    The Southern Publicity Association was joined by a whole tier of “King Kleagles,” who were responsible for overseeing recruitment in each state. The King Kleagle’s share of the remaining $6 was reduced to $1. Fifty cents went to the Great Goblin, $1.25 went to a national sales manager called the “Imperial Kleagle.” Another state-level authority, the “Grand Dragon”, who was more in charge of governance than recruitment, collected $2.50, and the two heads of the KKK — Grand Wizard Simmons, and another executive, titled the “Imperial Wizard,” split the remaining $0.75.

    And the Klan sold to the Klan a lot. Once a new member joined, he was not allowed to make his own robes. KKK robes only came from KKK-approved factories. They cost $2.00 to produce, and they were initially sold to members for $6.50 (about $88 in 2015). The KKK also pressured its members to purchase a lot of other racist-branded swag: life insurance, robe dry-cleaning services, helmets, Bibles, swords, and “even specially-wrapped candies with the Klan insignia on it.”

    Members also paid an annual membership fee of $5, and KKK leaders collected an “imperial” tax on all officially chartered local chapters (also known as “Klaverns”) of $1.80 per Klansman, paid out in four parts of $0.45 a year. This money went directly into the inner “Imperial” rung of the hierarchy. For a time, the Klan leaders, even at the state level, were among the best paid men in America. From Fryer and Levitt:

    “[T]he single state of Indiana generated nearly $4 million in revenues for the national headquarters. After some modest expenses, most of that revenue would go directly to the Imperial Wizard. […] [T]he head of the Indiana Klan received nearly $2.5 million annually from the state’s operations. The head of the state sales hierarchy pocketed nearly $400,000 a year. To put these numbers into perspective, in current dollars, a typical full professor during this time earned $45,000 in current dollars (Bachman 1929), Babe Ruth earned $613,000, and President Calvin Coolidge earned $885,000.”

    https://priceonomics.com/when-the-kkk-was-a-pyramid-scheme/

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    Do ya think the Klan of the '20s would have outsourced robe production to places like Bangladesh and Vietnam?
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  166. Boy is JPod gonna be surprised when the real Gay Nazi Bodybuilders show up to have a talk.

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  167. @Steve Sailer
    The revival of the KKK from 1915 onward was largely a multi-level marketing scam. This lady sales genius came up with the idea of having kleagles sell white robes to their new recruits in return for a cut.

    Haha, I was gonna go on like that,but figured brevity is good sometimes. Now, we should all keep in mind, they are not Pyramid Schemes, it’s all just multi-level marketing OK, at the worst they are tetrahedronal schemes – GET IN NOW!

    Personally, I’m more of a rectangular prism scheme guy – some call it free markets.

    Man, I can’t find the good clip on youtube of The Office for this. You’ve got to put up with the main characters’ faces being blocked due to copyright stuff(?)

    Holy moley, I thought you were joking – just read synonreduxes comment.

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  168. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Barnard
    He can still post them here and make him look dumb, which is what he was doing in the first place. I am not on Twitter and can still post another Podhoretz dumb tweet.

    https://twitter.com/jpodhoretz/status/955570411739205632

    On top of being an idiotic argument for open borders and no/low skill immigration, they only came up with two Trump advisors who they thought they could "shame" through their family's immigration history.

    They’re just trying to prove Bret Stephens’s point that we never should have let their ancestors come here in the first place.

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  169. Forbes says:
    @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/jpodhoretz/status/955640872133185537

    I calmly await the arrival of new reader comments–or not. I imagine a good deal of Twitter followers find the ad hominem Goebbels name-calling as cat nip…

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  170. notanon says:
    @IHTG
    JPod taking out his daddy issues on Steve.

    yep – it must be (genuinely) hard to be such a disappointment

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  171. notanon says:
    @rogue-one
    It's not just jews. From my personal experience, a lot of GoodWhites are far more fervent supporters of mass immigration and "equity" than even jews.

    right – the difference is most of the Jews don’t want the same for Israel

    so either

    1) they think diversity and mass immigration are good and they don’t want it for Israel cos they are anti-Israel

    or

    2) they think diversity and mass immigration are bad for the majority group and are pr-Israel and so don’t want it for Israel but if they think that but want mass immigration and diversity for every once-western nation that would imply they are actively engaged in stealth tribal warfare.

    (or to be most charitable about it, driven by uncontrollable paranoia in a way that is functionally identical to stealth tribal warfare))

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  172. Forbes says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    The Pod had better be careful. He could end up diminishing the negative currency value of the word Nazi.

    When everyone except you and your fellow clan members is a Nazi, is Nazi still a bad word?

    It's like how the accusational label racist has a lot of us hardly caring anymore.

    I’d say that just as racist/racism has been overused and diminished, so has Nazi. When everyone is a racist or a Nazi, then it has lost its negative currency value, as you say. That also explains the rise of the use of “white supremacy/supremacist,” as the other terms have lost their sting.

    As it is, it seems the snowflake generation, permanent adolescents, SJWs, and the PC-police, despite using such ad hominem, are the only ones triggered by said usage. It is a conundrum.

    Those of us a bit older or more mature grew up with all kinds of name-calling, and learned to ignore them, as “sticks and stones…names will never hurt us.”

    Laughing in the face of a bully is a great retort.

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  173. notanon says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    There are 4 or 5 levels of Nazism, T.A. It all depends on what you want to spend. Some, like iSteve here, just get in on the basic plan. It's like $20 Reich Marks deducted from your bank account each month - hell, it's the price of a cup of latte and the parking ticket while you're drinking it. You don't get the flag or the "Salute-with-precision" DVD's or apps, but you'll get the membership card and 5 or 6 medium-size bumper-Swastikers.

    Richard Spencer payed for a level-3 membership, he must be rich.

    if the western powers had stomped the bolsheviks before they murdered millions of white christians in concentration camps there would never have been a nazi party

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    if the western powers had stomped the bolsheviks before they murdered millions of white christians in concentration camps there would never have been a nazi party
     
    Remember, the supposedly enlightened western "christian" nations, among other things, sent millions of their citizens to pointless deaths in trench warfare well before bolshevism and nazism.

    In the name of God and country in an entirely elective war.

    If the white christian leadership of the Edwardian era hadn't been so murderous and exploitative of their own citizens, there wouldn't have been any bolshevism either.

    It was a blood-soaked era, thankfully, we seem past it for the time being having managed to get through the end of the Cold War without one last big hurrah of widespread murder and mayhem.
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  174. Forbes says:
    @syonredux

    I'm not triggered! I've lived in enemy territory all my life!

     

    https://twitter.com/jpodhoretz/status/955605276094291973

    Since, to the best of my knowledge, JPod has lived in the USA all his life...does this mean that he regards the USA as "enemy territory?"

    I think he’s pretty much lived on the Upper West Side of Manhattan all his life, alongside his fellow co-ethnics. Perhaps because it’s been called Moscow-on-the-Hudson, it’s the communists he considered his enemies…

    Otherwise, a rather bizarre verbal eruption.

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  175. @Anonymous
    https://twitter.com/robreiner/status/955129751064072192

    I dunno, I mean is being “frightened” a rational response to numerous Latino academics, politicians, and activists constantly harping on how much they want heritage America to go away, but oh by the way make sure you leave all the cool stuff you guys built over the last 250 years. Maybe “infuriated” would be more like it.

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    Besides, I don’t think Latinos watched All in the Family or This is Spinal Tap so I wonder what kind of a living Rob Reiner thinks he could make in Brown America. Or does he just plan to live off all the money he bilked out of White America for crummy comedy.
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  176. @Anonymous
    Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II drank tea and ate came with Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams, despite the fact that Adams was directly responsible for the horrific death of her close and beloved relation Lord Louis Mountbatten.

    The point is that in politics, as it exists in the real world, is all about the here and now, the imminent present which defines our lives and wellbeing, rather that which might or might not have happened n the past.

    I remember hearing a story (not sure if its accurate) from the mid-1960s that when the USSR sent one of their leaders (believe it was Kosygin) to the UK, the Labour government of Harold Wilson was flummoxed that the Queen did not want to greet the visiting dignitary. Then someone pointed out that the Soviet government having murdered her cousins (Nicholas II and his family) could be a sore point for the royals.

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  177. I remember back in the late 90s to early 2000s when I still read National Review that this whole JPod nonsense got started. It was apparently a riff on the then-popular Jennifer Lopez, i.e. J-Lo, which struck me as odd, to say the least. Why in the world would a presumably heterosexual middle aged man who wanted to be taken seriously as a writer adopt a handle that was such a transparent rip-off of a Puerto Rican pop singer who was popular mainly with teenage girls and gay men?

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    Because he was the only one who didn't get the joke.
    , @guest
    "popular mainly with teenage girls and gay men"

    Don't forget fans of gigantic asses. Is J-pod interested in that sort of thing?
    , @Hibernian
    Kathryn Jean Lopez was K-Lo.
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  178. Art Deco says:
    @Anonymous
    A few years back, J-Pod's father, Norman, was embroiled in a nasty little spat with the late great Gore Vidal, the prominent American thinker and socialist.
    Rather sniffily, Norman Podhoretz proclaimed that the American Civil War 'had as about much relevance to him as the War of the Roses'.

    This *really* raised Vidal's ire. Vidal wrote whole essays denouncing Podoheretz's philistinism and ignorance, using throughout the epithet 'Poddy' in place of the alphabet soup of 'Podhoretz', rather as Steve uses 'J-Pod' to describe Podhoretz fils.

    A few years back, J-Pod’s father, Norman, was embroiled in a nasty little spat with the late great Gore Vidal, the prominent American thinker and socialist.

    Gore Vidal made a great deal of money producing screenplays. He also wrote historical fiction and satire. He was not a ‘thinker’ in any sense.

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    A few years back, J-Pod’s father, Norman, was embroiled in a nasty little spat with the late great Gore Vidal, the prominent American thinker and socialist.

    Gore Vidal made a great deal of money producing screenplays. He also wrote historical fiction and satire. He was not a ‘thinker’ in any sense.
     
    Dunno. He was an excellent essayist.
    , @anon
    He was not a ‘thinker’ in any sense.

    Unlike JPod, right? I feel like I remember you coming to his aid one time, and then saying that "we lot" could never match his accomplishment of putting together a book of essays.
    , @PV van der Byl
    Had an amusing debate with WFBuckley in 1968:
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Bfw8fWUQKnE
    , @SunBakedSuburb
    Harrrumph!
    , @Anonymous
    He disowned, with embarrassment, Bob Guccione's Caligula.

    A strange degenerate film made for strange degenerate times, when the pompous often made the ridiculous assertion that 'porno' and Hollywood would eventually merge and 'become one' - I laughed my head off back in 1980 when I first read that statement.
    Anyhow, the film directed by the notorious callipygae fixated Tinto Brass, (yes, his real name), starred such luminaries as John Gielgud, Helen Mirren, Roddy McDowell, Peter O'Toole etc interspersed with graphic hard-core footage.
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  179. syonredux says:
    @Art Deco
    A few years back, J-Pod’s father, Norman, was embroiled in a nasty little spat with the late great Gore Vidal, the prominent American thinker and socialist.

    Gore Vidal made a great deal of money producing screenplays. He also wrote historical fiction and satire. He was not a 'thinker' in any sense.

    A few years back, J-Pod’s father, Norman, was embroiled in a nasty little spat with the late great Gore Vidal, the prominent American thinker and socialist.

    Gore Vidal made a great deal of money producing screenplays. He also wrote historical fiction and satire. He was not a ‘thinker’ in any sense.

    Dunno. He was an excellent essayist.

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    He was a thinker and a leader in greater social justice than he had to suffer in his lifestyle. He was especially innovative and progressive on challenging harmful norms such as sexuality and the idea that gender existed as anything but a social construct.

    Described by the critic Dennis Altman as "part of a major cultural assault on the assumed norms of gender and sexuality which swept the western world in the late 1960s and early 1970s,"[1] the Myra Breckinridge's major themes are feminism, transsexuality, American expressions of machismo and patriarchy, and deviant sexual practices, as filtered through an aggressively camp sensibility.

    Myra Breckinridge was dismissed by some of the era's more conservative critics as pornographic at the time of its first publication in February 1968; nevertheless, the novel immediately became a worldwide bestseller and has since come to be considered a classic in some circles. "It is tempting to argue that Vidal said more to subvert the dominant rules of sex and gender in Myra than is contained in a shelf of queer theory treatises," wrote Dennis Altman.

    ...Vidal rejected the adjectives "homosexual" and "heterosexual" when used as nouns, as inherently false terms used to classify and control people in society.

     

    , @D. K.
    I bought the soft-cover version of this collection, almost a quarter of a century ago, although, admittedly, I never have gotten around to reading it:

    https://www.amazon.com/United-States-1952-1992-Gore-Vidal/dp/0679414894

    ***

    This hefty volume will need strong binding: it contains 114 essays and over 1300 pages of Vidal's barbed opinions, articulate insights, intellectual observations, and more "correctionist" opinions. These pieces represent two-thirds of the essays Vidal has published over 40 years and fall into three categories: literary, political, and personal. Why the other one-third was omitted or why these particular ones were gathered at this time is not clear. If the aim is a "complete works," then why not include the other third and divide them into three physical volumes with proper editing? Such a collection would be worthwhile. Because Vidal's essays are always provocative, full of interesting facts, and have the immediacy of a conversation, this collection might be of interest to both public and academic libraries. Libraries on a tight budget can remember that the essays have appeared previously in such publications as the New York Review of Books.

    ***
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  180. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @syonredux

    A few years back, J-Pod’s father, Norman, was embroiled in a nasty little spat with the late great Gore Vidal, the prominent American thinker and socialist.

    Gore Vidal made a great deal of money producing screenplays. He also wrote historical fiction and satire. He was not a ‘thinker’ in any sense.
     
    Dunno. He was an excellent essayist.

    He was a thinker and a leader in greater social justice than he had to suffer in his lifestyle. He was especially innovative and progressive on challenging harmful norms such as sexuality and the idea that gender existed as anything but a social construct.

    Described by the critic Dennis Altman as “part of a major cultural assault on the assumed norms of gender and sexuality which swept the western world in the late 1960s and early 1970s,”[1] the Myra Breckinridge’s major themes are feminism, transsexuality, American expressions of machismo and patriarchy, and deviant sexual practices, as filtered through an aggressively camp sensibility.

    Myra Breckinridge was dismissed by some of the era’s more conservative critics as pornographic at the time of its first publication in February 1968; nevertheless, the novel immediately became a worldwide bestseller and has since come to be considered a classic in some circles. “It is tempting to argue that Vidal said more to subvert the dominant rules of sex and gender in Myra than is contained in a shelf of queer theory treatises,” wrote Dennis Altman.

    …Vidal rejected the adjectives “homosexual” and “heterosexual” when used as nouns, as inherently false terms used to classify and control people in society.

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    He was especially innovative and progressive on challenging harmful norms such as sexuality and the idea that gender existed as anything but a social construct.

    Perhaps because, as this article put it, "Gore spent a lot of time in Bangkok, after all."

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/10/fashion/In-a-final-plot-twist-Gore-Vidal-leaves-his-estate-to-Harvard-Universtity.html
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  181. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Art Deco
    A few years back, J-Pod’s father, Norman, was embroiled in a nasty little spat with the late great Gore Vidal, the prominent American thinker and socialist.

    Gore Vidal made a great deal of money producing screenplays. He also wrote historical fiction and satire. He was not a 'thinker' in any sense.

    He was not a ‘thinker’ in any sense.

    Unlike JPod, right? I feel like I remember you coming to his aid one time, and then saying that “we lot” could never match his accomplishment of putting together a book of essays.

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    Unlike JPod, right? I feel like I remember you coming to his aid one time, and then saying that “we lot” could never match his accomplishment of putting together a book of essays.
     
    Unsuprising that Art Deco would come to the defence of JPod. He is no thinker either, merely a disseminator of smug condescension and conventional, outworn pieties. Mediocrities, both of them.
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  182. D. K. says:
    @syonredux

    A few years back, J-Pod’s father, Norman, was embroiled in a nasty little spat with the late great Gore Vidal, the prominent American thinker and socialist.

    Gore Vidal made a great deal of money producing screenplays. He also wrote historical fiction and satire. He was not a ‘thinker’ in any sense.
     
    Dunno. He was an excellent essayist.

    I bought the soft-cover version of this collection, almost a quarter of a century ago, although, admittedly, I never have gotten around to reading it:

    https://www.amazon.com/United-States-1952-1992-Gore-Vidal/dp/0679414894

    ***

    This hefty volume will need strong binding: it contains 114 essays and over 1300 pages of Vidal’s barbed opinions, articulate insights, intellectual observations, and more “correctionist” opinions. These pieces represent two-thirds of the essays Vidal has published over 40 years and fall into three categories: literary, political, and personal. Why the other one-third was omitted or why these particular ones were gathered at this time is not clear. If the aim is a “complete works,” then why not include the other third and divide them into three physical volumes with proper editing? Such a collection would be worthwhile. Because Vidal’s essays are always provocative, full of interesting facts, and have the immediacy of a conversation, this collection might be of interest to both public and academic libraries. Libraries on a tight budget can remember that the essays have appeared previously in such publications as the New York Review of Books.

    ***

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    You really have to start nibbling. It's fascinating, far-ranging, and variously portioned, so you can start anywhere. You won't regret it.
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  183. That Houston hurricane photo on Steve Sailer’s Twitter feed still gives me a laugh.

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  184. @Art Deco
    A few years back, J-Pod’s father, Norman, was embroiled in a nasty little spat with the late great Gore Vidal, the prominent American thinker and socialist.

    Gore Vidal made a great deal of money producing screenplays. He also wrote historical fiction and satire. He was not a 'thinker' in any sense.

    Had an amusing debate with WFBuckley in 1968:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bfw8fWUQKnE

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    I remember when it happened during the 1968 Democratic Convention.
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  185. @Sgt. Joe Friday
    I remember back in the late 90s to early 2000s when I still read National Review that this whole JPod nonsense got started. It was apparently a riff on the then-popular Jennifer Lopez, i.e. J-Lo, which struck me as odd, to say the least. Why in the world would a presumably heterosexual middle aged man who wanted to be taken seriously as a writer adopt a handle that was such a transparent rip-off of a Puerto Rican pop singer who was popular mainly with teenage girls and gay men?

    Because he was the only one who didn’t get the joke.

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  186. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    He was a thinker and a leader in greater social justice than he had to suffer in his lifestyle. He was especially innovative and progressive on challenging harmful norms such as sexuality and the idea that gender existed as anything but a social construct.

    Described by the critic Dennis Altman as "part of a major cultural assault on the assumed norms of gender and sexuality which swept the western world in the late 1960s and early 1970s,"[1] the Myra Breckinridge's major themes are feminism, transsexuality, American expressions of machismo and patriarchy, and deviant sexual practices, as filtered through an aggressively camp sensibility.

    Myra Breckinridge was dismissed by some of the era's more conservative critics as pornographic at the time of its first publication in February 1968; nevertheless, the novel immediately became a worldwide bestseller and has since come to be considered a classic in some circles. "It is tempting to argue that Vidal said more to subvert the dominant rules of sex and gender in Myra than is contained in a shelf of queer theory treatises," wrote Dennis Altman.

    ...Vidal rejected the adjectives "homosexual" and "heterosexual" when used as nouns, as inherently false terms used to classify and control people in society.

     

    He was especially innovative and progressive on challenging harmful norms such as sexuality and the idea that gender existed as anything but a social construct.

    Perhaps because, as this article put it, “Gore spent a lot of time in Bangkok, after all.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/10/fashion/In-a-final-plot-twist-Gore-Vidal-leaves-his-estate-to-Harvard-Universtity.html

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  187. @Art Deco
    A few years back, J-Pod’s father, Norman, was embroiled in a nasty little spat with the late great Gore Vidal, the prominent American thinker and socialist.

    Gore Vidal made a great deal of money producing screenplays. He also wrote historical fiction and satire. He was not a 'thinker' in any sense.

    Harrrumph!

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  188. @Mr. Anon
    That's too bad about Neil Diamond. To be 77 and still touring is pretty good. I hope he can manage the Parkinsons okay.

    I’m A Believer (the Monkees version)
    Brother Love’s Traveling Salvation Show
    Sweet Caroline

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    I'm not a big Neil Diamond fan, but he does have real talent. His tunes are catchy and pleasant to listen to.
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  189. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Art Deco
    A few years back, J-Pod’s father, Norman, was embroiled in a nasty little spat with the late great Gore Vidal, the prominent American thinker and socialist.

    Gore Vidal made a great deal of money producing screenplays. He also wrote historical fiction and satire. He was not a 'thinker' in any sense.

    He disowned, with embarrassment, Bob Guccione’s Caligula.

    A strange degenerate film made for strange degenerate times, when the pompous often made the ridiculous assertion that ‘porno’ and Hollywood would eventually merge and ‘become one’ – I laughed my head off back in 1980 when I first read that statement.
    Anyhow, the film directed by the notorious callipygae fixated Tinto Brass, (yes, his real name), starred such luminaries as John Gielgud, Helen Mirren, Roddy McDowell, Peter O’Toole etc interspersed with graphic hard-core footage.

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  190. @Unladen Swallow
    JPod is the living embodiment of regression to the mean, although it's incredible that there could that much in only one generation. He would never post on here. His fat corpulent head would explode trying to explain how Steve is a loser when Steve's strategy won Trump the Presidency, the same guy who is now is staring down and making blink Schumer and the Dems in Congress and the RINOS in his own party. This is something the Bushes never managed to do in 12 years in the White House, among other facts like ones you mentioned.

    JPod is the living embodiment of regression to the mean, although it’s incredible that there could that much in only one generation.

    True – but not that incredible. There’s also Bill Kristol.

    One might have disagreed with Norman Podhoretz or Irving Kristol, but still had to respect their intellects. Not so with their sons! They have followed their fathers as worthily as Commodus did Marcus Aurelius.

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  191. anonguy says:
    @notanon
    if the western powers had stomped the bolsheviks before they murdered millions of white christians in concentration camps there would never have been a nazi party

    if the western powers had stomped the bolsheviks before they murdered millions of white christians in concentration camps there would never have been a nazi party

    Remember, the supposedly enlightened western “christian” nations, among other things, sent millions of their citizens to pointless deaths in trench warfare well before bolshevism and nazism.

    In the name of God and country in an entirely elective war.

    If the white christian leadership of the Edwardian era hadn’t been so murderous and exploitative of their own citizens, there wouldn’t have been any bolshevism either.

    It was a blood-soaked era, thankfully, we seem past it for the time being having managed to get through the end of the Cold War without one last big hurrah of widespread murder and mayhem.

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    Compare WW1 to WW2, that'll tell you something.
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  192. JimB says:
    @Sgt. Joe Friday
    I dunno, I mean is being "frightened" a rational response to numerous Latino academics, politicians, and activists constantly harping on how much they want heritage America to go away, but oh by the way make sure you leave all the cool stuff you guys built over the last 250 years. Maybe "infuriated" would be more like it.

    Besides, I don’t think Latinos watched All in the Family or This is Spinal Tap so I wonder what kind of a living Rob Reiner thinks he could make in Brown America. Or does he just plan to live off all the money he bilked out of White America for crummy comedy.

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  193. anonguy says:

    Oh, and that JPod character Steve? You know he is trolling the hell out of your commentariat like Tiny Duck does. You guys need each other, it is yin/yang, the two of you entwined in fate.

    Keep up the reality show, it is fun.

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  194. guest says:
    @syonredux

    I'm not triggered! I've lived in enemy territory all my life!

     

    https://twitter.com/jpodhoretz/status/955605276094291973

    Since, to the best of my knowledge, JPod has lived in the USA all his life...does this mean that he regards the USA as "enemy territory?"

    One really shouldn’t use an exclamation point at the end of the sentence “I’m not triggered.” It sounds like:

    Them: You’re in denial.

    You: No I’m not!

    To answer your question, the U.S. is full of white people, and white people committed the holocaust. So yes, enemy territory.

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  195. @syonredux

    But in 2011, Roland G. Fryer and Steven D. Levitt, the economist co-author of Freakonomics, looked into historical statistics about KKK membership and demographic, criminal and political trends at the time. And they found something surprising: a seldom-seen side of the KKK.

    “Rather than a terrorist organization,” they wrote, “the 1920s Klan is best described as a social organization with a wildly successful multi-level marketing structure.” According to Fryer and Levitt, in its heyday, the KKK was a giant, perverse pyramid scheme. Instead of perpetrating a racist agenda, the KKK’s leaders exploited pre-existing, popular racism to make money.
     

    For their research, Fryer and Levitt compiled a database of historical KKK documents, including internal censuses, member applications, and robe order forms. They cross-referenced the names on these forms with data from the 1920 and 1930 American Censuses.

    From this database, which is consistent with previous analyses, we know that this new KKK didn’t really take off until about 1920. Then membership suddenly -- and somewhat mysteriously -- boomed. Estimates of the KKK’s size at its peak in 1924 range from 1.5 million to 4 million -- 4-15% of the eligible population.

    According to Fryer and Levitt, this boom was the result of an innovative new marketing campaign.
     

    In December of 1920, the KKK hired a PR firm, the “Southern Publicity Association,” to boost recruitment. The firm had previously represented the Salvation Army and the Anti-Saloon League, but it was close to bankruptcy.

    The incentives in the contract were good, possibly too good. Simmons had always made money off his Klansmen. He sold them $6 robes and Klan-branded life insurance policies at $53,000 a pop. He also charged his members $10 initiation fees. According to the contract, the Southern Publicity Association would get 80% of this initiation fee for every new member it signed up.


    When the Southern Publicity Association signed on, the full initiation fee was still $10, roughly equivalent to $125 in 2015. Eighty percent of the fee was $8, and roughly equivalent to $100. This meant the Southern Publicity Association could offer salesmen an attractive commission while keeping a substantial cut.

    The Southern Publicity Association quickly built and deployed a national sales force of over 1,000 “Kleagles” -- the KKK's name for its commission-paid salesmen. Every time a Kleagle recruited a new member (called a “Ghoul”), the Kleagle earned $4 of the $10 initiation fee. At first, the Southern Publicity Association sent $2 of the remaining $6 to Simmons, pocketed $2.50, and handed $1.50 to a regional supervisor called the “Great Goblin.”

     


    Soon, the whole KKK adopted the $4 Kleagle scheme, and the entitlement chain got longer. The economic structure that eventually arose looked much like a modern multi-level marketing company--with extremely stupid titles.

    The Southern Publicity Association was joined by a whole tier of “King Kleagles,” who were responsible for overseeing recruitment in each state. The King Kleagle’s share of the remaining $6 was reduced to $1. Fifty cents went to the Great Goblin, $1.25 went to a national sales manager called the “Imperial Kleagle.” Another state-level authority, the “Grand Dragon”, who was more in charge of governance than recruitment, collected $2.50, and the two heads of the KKK -- Grand Wizard Simmons, and another executive, titled the “Imperial Wizard,” split the remaining $0.75.
     

    And the Klan sold to the Klan a lot. Once a new member joined, he was not allowed to make his own robes. KKK robes only came from KKK-approved factories. They cost $2.00 to produce, and they were initially sold to members for $6.50 (about $88 in 2015). The KKK also pressured its members to purchase a lot of other racist-branded swag: life insurance, robe dry-cleaning services, helmets, Bibles, swords, and “even specially-wrapped candies with the Klan insignia on it.”

    Members also paid an annual membership fee of $5, and KKK leaders collected an “imperial” tax on all officially chartered local chapters (also known as “Klaverns”) of $1.80 per Klansman, paid out in four parts of $0.45 a year. This money went directly into the inner “Imperial” rung of the hierarchy. For a time, the Klan leaders, even at the state level, were among the best paid men in America. From Fryer and Levitt:

    “[T]he single state of Indiana generated nearly $4 million in revenues for the national headquarters. After some modest expenses, most of that revenue would go directly to the Imperial Wizard. […] [T]he head of the Indiana Klan received nearly $2.5 million annually from the state’s operations. The head of the state sales hierarchy pocketed nearly $400,000 a year. To put these numbers into perspective, in current dollars, a typical full professor during this time earned $45,000 in current dollars (Bachman 1929), Babe Ruth earned $613,000, and President Calvin Coolidge earned $885,000.”

     

    https://priceonomics.com/when-the-kkk-was-a-pyramid-scheme/

    Do ya think the Klan of the ’20s would have outsourced robe production to places like Bangladesh and Vietnam?

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    Do ya think the Klan of the ’20s would have outsourced robe production to places like Bangladesh and Vietnam?
     
    If it meant more money for the guys at the top of the pyramid....
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  196. guest says:
    @Sgt. Joe Friday
    I remember back in the late 90s to early 2000s when I still read National Review that this whole JPod nonsense got started. It was apparently a riff on the then-popular Jennifer Lopez, i.e. J-Lo, which struck me as odd, to say the least. Why in the world would a presumably heterosexual middle aged man who wanted to be taken seriously as a writer adopt a handle that was such a transparent rip-off of a Puerto Rican pop singer who was popular mainly with teenage girls and gay men?

    “popular mainly with teenage girls and gay men”

    Don’t forget fans of gigantic asses. Is J-pod interested in that sort of thing?

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  197. anon • Disclaimer says:

    He just keeps doing it too.

    He’s like a two-year-old. His potty-training must not have gone so well.

    I did like the fact that he managed to get this in response:

    “Why are you allowing Russian trolls to bait you into arguing? He literally posting an article from Russia-Insider.”

    It is easy to see why these people dominate the intellectual sphere.

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    What is it with those guys and bodily functions?
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  198. Cortes says:

    If words have any meanings these days then an action for defamation ought to be pursued.

    Couldn’t happen to a better person.

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  199. J.Ross says: • Website
    @D. K.
    I bought the soft-cover version of this collection, almost a quarter of a century ago, although, admittedly, I never have gotten around to reading it:

    https://www.amazon.com/United-States-1952-1992-Gore-Vidal/dp/0679414894

    ***

    This hefty volume will need strong binding: it contains 114 essays and over 1300 pages of Vidal's barbed opinions, articulate insights, intellectual observations, and more "correctionist" opinions. These pieces represent two-thirds of the essays Vidal has published over 40 years and fall into three categories: literary, political, and personal. Why the other one-third was omitted or why these particular ones were gathered at this time is not clear. If the aim is a "complete works," then why not include the other third and divide them into three physical volumes with proper editing? Such a collection would be worthwhile. Because Vidal's essays are always provocative, full of interesting facts, and have the immediacy of a conversation, this collection might be of interest to both public and academic libraries. Libraries on a tight budget can remember that the essays have appeared previously in such publications as the New York Review of Books.

    ***

    You really have to start nibbling. It’s fascinating, far-ranging, and variously portioned, so you can start anywhere. You won’t regret it.

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  200. J.Ross says: • Website
    @anon
    He just keeps doing it too.

    https://twitter.com/jpodhoretz/status/955913473929695232

    He's like a two-year-old. His potty-training must not have gone so well.

    I did like the fact that he managed to get this in response:

    "Why are you allowing Russian trolls to bait you into arguing? He literally posting an article from Russia-Insider."

    It is easy to see why these people dominate the intellectual sphere.

    What is it with those guys and bodily functions?

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  201. syonredux says:
    @The Alarmist
    Do ya think the Klan of the '20s would have outsourced robe production to places like Bangladesh and Vietnam?

    Do ya think the Klan of the ’20s would have outsourced robe production to places like Bangladesh and Vietnam?

    If it meant more money for the guys at the top of the pyramid….

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  202. @J.Ross
    You study the laws, I'll study the judges.

    I see you got your degree from Roy Cohn Law School.

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  203. @PV van der Byl
    Had an amusing debate with WFBuckley in 1968:
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Bfw8fWUQKnE

    I remember when it happened during the 1968 Democratic Convention.

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  204. Dai Alanye says: • Website

    I belittled an aspect of Podski’s political reasoning many years ago, bringing on a remarkably angry and insulting response. I then fake-apologized, so broadly that any rational person would have detected the underlying sarcasm. But no, Podski entirely accepted the pseudo-groveling, ending his response by stating he hoped I had learned a lesson.

    I swiftly cleared-up his confusion and heard no further from him.

    I’ve always assumed he must have been using some mind-numbing substance at the time of our exchange. Possibly, though, it’s genetic.

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  205. Hibernian says:
    @Sgt. Joe Friday
    I remember back in the late 90s to early 2000s when I still read National Review that this whole JPod nonsense got started. It was apparently a riff on the then-popular Jennifer Lopez, i.e. J-Lo, which struck me as odd, to say the least. Why in the world would a presumably heterosexual middle aged man who wanted to be taken seriously as a writer adopt a handle that was such a transparent rip-off of a Puerto Rican pop singer who was popular mainly with teenage girls and gay men?

    Kathryn Jean Lopez was K-Lo.

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  206. Hibernian says:
    @anonguy

    if the western powers had stomped the bolsheviks before they murdered millions of white christians in concentration camps there would never have been a nazi party
     
    Remember, the supposedly enlightened western "christian" nations, among other things, sent millions of their citizens to pointless deaths in trench warfare well before bolshevism and nazism.

    In the name of God and country in an entirely elective war.

    If the white christian leadership of the Edwardian era hadn't been so murderous and exploitative of their own citizens, there wouldn't have been any bolshevism either.

    It was a blood-soaked era, thankfully, we seem past it for the time being having managed to get through the end of the Cold War without one last big hurrah of widespread murder and mayhem.

    Compare WW1 to WW2, that’ll tell you something.

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    Compare WW1 to WW2, that’ll tell you something.
     
    The Soviet Union, the only Bolsheviks in WWII, was also the only major power in WWII that *didn't* have organized destruction of the civilian population of its opponents as a significant, ongoing strategic goal/practice.

    Does that tell you something?
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  207. @anonguy
    Oh, and that JPod character Steve? You know he is trolling the hell out of your commentariat like Tiny Duck does. You guys need each other, it is yin/yang, the two of you entwined in fate.

    Keep up the reality show, it is fun.

    “I TROLL U” is the last refuge of a losing argument.

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  208. anonguy says:
    @Hibernian
    Compare WW1 to WW2, that'll tell you something.

    Compare WW1 to WW2, that’ll tell you something.

    The Soviet Union, the only Bolsheviks in WWII, was also the only major power in WWII that *didn’t* have organized destruction of the civilian population of its opponents as a significant, ongoing strategic goal/practice.

    Does that tell you something?

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    The Soviet Union, the only Bolsheviks in WWII, was also the only major power in WWII that *didn’t* have organized destruction of the civilian population of its opponents as a significant, ongoing strategic goal/practice.

    Does that tell you something?
     
    Yes. That they were unable to.
    , @Neil Templeton
    So the epic Russian rape of German women is a fiction? Organized military support of unpopular Soviet puppets in East Germany, Poland, Czechoslovakia, et al? Why are you slandering the Bolsheviks by claiming they are ignorant of the fundamental strategy and fruitful tactics of Total War?
    , @J.Ross
    They made up for lost time after the war.
    , @nebulafox
    The Estonians-whom the Soviets would more or less attempt to destroy as a nation-would disagree with that assessment.
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  209. Mr. Anon says:
    @anon
    He was not a ‘thinker’ in any sense.

    Unlike JPod, right? I feel like I remember you coming to his aid one time, and then saying that "we lot" could never match his accomplishment of putting together a book of essays.

    Unlike JPod, right? I feel like I remember you coming to his aid one time, and then saying that “we lot” could never match his accomplishment of putting together a book of essays.

    Unsuprising that Art Deco would come to the defence of JPod. He is no thinker either, merely a disseminator of smug condescension and conventional, outworn pieties. Mediocrities, both of them.

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  210. Mr. Anon says:
    @anonguy

    Compare WW1 to WW2, that’ll tell you something.
     
    The Soviet Union, the only Bolsheviks in WWII, was also the only major power in WWII that *didn't* have organized destruction of the civilian population of its opponents as a significant, ongoing strategic goal/practice.

    Does that tell you something?

    The Soviet Union, the only Bolsheviks in WWII, was also the only major power in WWII that *didn’t* have organized destruction of the civilian population of its opponents as a significant, ongoing strategic goal/practice.

    Does that tell you something?

    Yes. That they were unable to.

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    Are we missing something here?:
    -the Soviets sought to exterminate the educated or ruling Elites wherever they went.
    Either by the Katyn massacre in Poland, or by deporting them en masse to gulags where they would be worked to death or starve, succumb to disease. (the Elites of the Baltic states, Ukraine, Hungary).
    , @dfordoom

    Yes. That they were unable to.
     
    Not true. The Soviets had for example already developed long-range strategic bombers in the late 30s. Had they wanted to bomb innocent women and children they certainly had the technological capacity to do so. For some reason they decided that slaughtering the innocents from the skies was not a priority.

    The liberal democracies on the other hand felt that the murder of civilians was an extremely high priority.
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  211. Mr. Anon says:
    @Anonymous
    A few years back, J-Pod's father, Norman, was embroiled in a nasty little spat with the late great Gore Vidal, the prominent American thinker and socialist.
    Rather sniffily, Norman Podhoretz proclaimed that the American Civil War 'had as about much relevance to him as the War of the Roses'.

    This *really* raised Vidal's ire. Vidal wrote whole essays denouncing Podoheretz's philistinism and ignorance, using throughout the epithet 'Poddy' in place of the alphabet soup of 'Podhoretz', rather as Steve uses 'J-Pod' to describe Podhoretz fils.

    Rather sniffily, Norman Podhoretz proclaimed that the American Civil War ‘had as about much relevance to him as the War of the Roses’.

    And the War of the Roses has more significance to me than the Six-Day War.

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  212. MBlanc46 says:

    Sue, Steve, sue!

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  213. Alden says:
    @Lot
    You were right it turned out about the Gaza Strip. They dragged every one of hundreds of Jewish settlers out of there, surrounded by even more angry supporters. Now 100% Palestinian and run under Sharia law by a terrorist organization that has broad popular support.

    "before the World Wars, Palestinians were predominately, Bedouin tribes who lived in moving tent towns,"

    That is just not accurate. "Palestinians" are mostly Arabs from elsewhere who did not arrive much before the Jews came back. Bedouin tribes certainly existed, then and now, but they are quite distinct from the Syrian/Egyptian/Circassian/Jordanian mix that is typical there. Bedouins have relatively good relations with Israel.

    So who lived in Palestine in 500AD, 1,000AD, 1,500AD and 17,00AD?

    It could not have been all Christian pilgrims

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    For part of this period it was depopulated by war and aggressive Ottoman taxation, conscription, and mismanagement.

    The final 100 years of Ottoman "rule" they were so weak the area became relatively more peaceful as the area became a defacto British/French protectorate to stop the Russians from taking over. The Ottomans encouraged Arabs from elsewhere in their collapsing empire to settle in the Levant as it was a great location well below its carrying capacity.

    Two groups besides the Bedouins who were there the whole time are Druze and Samaratins. They also have good relations with Israel, and the latter have very high intermarriage rates with Jews.
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  214. Alden says:
    @Anonymous
    A few years back, J-Pod's father, Norman, was embroiled in a nasty little spat with the late great Gore Vidal, the prominent American thinker and socialist.
    Rather sniffily, Norman Podhoretz proclaimed that the American Civil War 'had as about much relevance to him as the War of the Roses'.

    This *really* raised Vidal's ire. Vidal wrote whole essays denouncing Podoheretz's philistinism and ignorance, using throughout the epithet 'Poddy' in place of the alphabet soup of 'Podhoretz', rather as Steve uses 'J-Pod' to describe Podhoretz fils.

    Gore Vidal was very proud of his elite old American heritage and wrote several historical novels set in early America and the 19th century.

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  215. Alden says:
    @Anonymous
    A few years back, J-Pod's father, Norman, was embroiled in a nasty little spat with the late great Gore Vidal, the prominent American thinker and socialist.
    Rather sniffily, Norman Podhoretz proclaimed that the American Civil War 'had as about much relevance to him as the War of the Roses'.

    This *really* raised Vidal's ire. Vidal wrote whole essays denouncing Podoheretz's philistinism and ignorance, using throughout the epithet 'Poddy' in place of the alphabet soup of 'Podhoretz', rather as Steve uses 'J-Pod' to describe Podhoretz fils.

    Gore Vidal was very proud of his elite old American heritage and wrote several historical novels set in early America and the 19th century.

    Didn’t know he was a socialist. But I know he was one of those tax travelers.
    He lived 5 &1/2 months a year in Italy and 5 & 1/2 months a year in the USA and avoided income tax

    United states changed that law recently but the socialist Vidal took full advantage.

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  216. @anonguy

    Compare WW1 to WW2, that’ll tell you something.
     
    The Soviet Union, the only Bolsheviks in WWII, was also the only major power in WWII that *didn't* have organized destruction of the civilian population of its opponents as a significant, ongoing strategic goal/practice.

    Does that tell you something?

    So the epic Russian rape of German women is a fiction? Organized military support of unpopular Soviet puppets in East Germany, Poland, Czechoslovakia, et al? Why are you slandering the Bolsheviks by claiming they are ignorant of the fundamental strategy and fruitful tactics of Total War?

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  217. J.Ross says: • Website
    @anonguy

    Compare WW1 to WW2, that’ll tell you something.
     
    The Soviet Union, the only Bolsheviks in WWII, was also the only major power in WWII that *didn't* have organized destruction of the civilian population of its opponents as a significant, ongoing strategic goal/practice.

    Does that tell you something?

    They made up for lost time after the war.

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  218. Mr. Anon says:
    @Sarah Toga
    I'm A Believer (the Monkees version)
    Brother Love's Traveling Salvation Show
    Sweet Caroline

    I’m not a big Neil Diamond fan, but he does have real talent. His tunes are catchy and pleasant to listen to.

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  219. @Mr. Anon

    The Soviet Union, the only Bolsheviks in WWII, was also the only major power in WWII that *didn’t* have organized destruction of the civilian population of its opponents as a significant, ongoing strategic goal/practice.

    Does that tell you something?
     
    Yes. That they were unable to.

    Are we missing something here?:
    -the Soviets sought to exterminate the educated or ruling Elites wherever they went.
    Either by the Katyn massacre in Poland, or by deporting them en masse to gulags where they would be worked to death or starve, succumb to disease. (the Elites of the Baltic states, Ukraine, Hungary).

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    Are we missing something here?:
    -the Soviets sought to exterminate the educated or ruling Elites wherever they went.
    Either by the Katyn massacre in Poland, or by deporting them en masse to gulags where they would be worked to death or starve, succumb to disease. (the Elites of the Baltic states, Ukraine, Hungary).
     
    Yes, you are right, of course. I was responding to the notion that the Soviets refrained from carrying out mass aerial bombardment attacks out of some sense of humanity. They only refrained from such attacks out of lack of a sufficient air force.
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  220. Neoconned says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Or JPod sweats about his libel insurance overnight ...

    Steve out of blind curiosity do you have libel insurance?

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  221. nebulafox says:
    @anonguy

    Compare WW1 to WW2, that’ll tell you something.
     
    The Soviet Union, the only Bolsheviks in WWII, was also the only major power in WWII that *didn't* have organized destruction of the civilian population of its opponents as a significant, ongoing strategic goal/practice.

    Does that tell you something?

    The Estonians-whom the Soviets would more or less attempt to destroy as a nation-would disagree with that assessment.

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  222. Romanian says: • Website
    @Anonymous
    A few years back, J-Pod's father, Norman, was embroiled in a nasty little spat with the late great Gore Vidal, the prominent American thinker and socialist.
    Rather sniffily, Norman Podhoretz proclaimed that the American Civil War 'had as about much relevance to him as the War of the Roses'.

    This *really* raised Vidal's ire. Vidal wrote whole essays denouncing Podoheretz's philistinism and ignorance, using throughout the epithet 'Poddy' in place of the alphabet soup of 'Podhoretz', rather as Steve uses 'J-Pod' to describe Podhoretz fils.

    Can you post a link to it, please? I would be interested in reading it.

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    It was in a paperback volume of collected Gore Vidal essays entitled 'Armaggedon' published by Grafton Books, UK, 1989.
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  223. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr. Anon
    That's too bad about Neil Diamond. To be 77 and still touring is pretty good. I hope he can manage the Parkinsons okay.

    When I was younger, my parents took me to see a musical act at a fair called “The Black Diamond”.

    Based on the context, you’ve probably guessed what it was: a black guy doing a Neil Diamond tribute act. At the time, though, I was a little surprised at how direct the guy’s name was.

    He was pretty good, even though I wasn’t the biggest Neil Diamond fan (though, what teenager is?). It looks like he’s still around, too.

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  224. @Rod1963
    Steve is living in Jpod's head rent free.

    All Steve needs to do now is label Jpod "low energy" and "confused".

    I think Steve should also give him a juvenile, mocking knick-name like Stinky Poddy or somesuch.

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    The ideal would be something innocuous or noble, but awkward-sounding to modern ears, so JPod works himself into a froth but then has it explained to him that he is mad about nothing.
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  225. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Romanian
    Can you post a link to it, please? I would be interested in reading it.

    It was in a paperback volume of collected Gore Vidal essays entitled ‘Armaggedon’ published by Grafton Books, UK, 1989.

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    Thanks!
    , @fnn
    Which book of his essays has the pro-Lindberg essay? The one that was rejected for publication by the NYRB.
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  226. Mr. Anon says:
    @CrunchyButRealistCon
    Are we missing something here?:
    -the Soviets sought to exterminate the educated or ruling Elites wherever they went.
    Either by the Katyn massacre in Poland, or by deporting them en masse to gulags where they would be worked to death or starve, succumb to disease. (the Elites of the Baltic states, Ukraine, Hungary).

    Are we missing something here?:
    -the Soviets sought to exterminate the educated or ruling Elites wherever they went.
    Either by the Katyn massacre in Poland, or by deporting them en masse to gulags where they would be worked to death or starve, succumb to disease. (the Elites of the Baltic states, Ukraine, Hungary).

    Yes, you are right, of course. I was responding to the notion that the Soviets refrained from carrying out mass aerial bombardment attacks out of some sense of humanity. They only refrained from such attacks out of lack of a sufficient air force.

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  227. Lot says:
    @Alden
    So who lived in Palestine in 500AD, 1,000AD, 1,500AD and 17,00AD?

    It could not have been all Christian pilgrims

    For part of this period it was depopulated by war and aggressive Ottoman taxation, conscription, and mismanagement.

    The final 100 years of Ottoman “rule” they were so weak the area became relatively more peaceful as the area became a defacto British/French protectorate to stop the Russians from taking over. The Ottomans encouraged Arabs from elsewhere in their collapsing empire to settle in the Levant as it was a great location well below its carrying capacity.

    Two groups besides the Bedouins who were there the whole time are Druze and Samaratins. They also have good relations with Israel, and the latter have very high intermarriage rates with Jews.

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  228. Yngvar says:

    If you start calling him Pod Ho he’ll sue faster than you can say ‘sorry!’

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  229. Romanian says: • Website
    @Anonymous
    It was in a paperback volume of collected Gore Vidal essays entitled 'Armaggedon' published by Grafton Books, UK, 1989.

    Thanks!

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  230. @Dwright
    How did the Podhoretz’s conceive such a dimwit?

    How did the Podhoretz’s conceive such a dimwit?

    By using the wrong method to create a plural from the singular?

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  231. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Sigurd Snake-in-the-Pants
    I think Steve should also give him a juvenile, mocking knick-name like Stinky Poddy or somesuch.

    The ideal would be something innocuous or noble, but awkward-sounding to modern ears, so JPod works himself into a froth but then has it explained to him that he is mad about nothing.

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  232. fnn says:
    @Anonymous
    It was in a paperback volume of collected Gore Vidal essays entitled 'Armaggedon' published by Grafton Books, UK, 1989.

    Which book of his essays has the pro-Lindberg essay? The one that was rejected for publication by the NYRB.

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  233. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Mr. Anon

    The Soviet Union, the only Bolsheviks in WWII, was also the only major power in WWII that *didn’t* have organized destruction of the civilian population of its opponents as a significant, ongoing strategic goal/practice.

    Does that tell you something?
     
    Yes. That they were unable to.

    Yes. That they were unable to.

    Not true. The Soviets had for example already developed long-range strategic bombers in the late 30s. Had they wanted to bomb innocent women and children they certainly had the technological capacity to do so. For some reason they decided that slaughtering the innocents from the skies was not a priority.

    The liberal democracies on the other hand felt that the murder of civilians was an extremely high priority.

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