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A growing trend among among social justice jihadis, especially Women of Color, is exhaustion from all the emotional labor they perform enduring microaggressions on campus. From Inside Higher Education:

Surviving Institutional Racism in Academe

A faculty member describes some of the lessons she’s learned the hard way.

By Anonymous

The author is a faculty member at a small liberal arts college.
November 17, 2017

Readers, I will be honest with you: when I accepted my first tenure-track position, I was excited to formally join the academy. I naïvely assumed the bubble of academe would insulate me from, well, everything. I raced toward my Ph.D. in search of social protection, professional stability and financial freedom. Instead, I found early-career emotional, physical and mental exhaustion.

… Most of us, instead, experience professional death by a thousand cuts. We spend our days ducking microaggressions, hurdling stereotypes and navigating emotional distress. Most of us will be denied tenure, and many will be too exhausted to protest if we managed to land a tenure-track job at all.

When I went to work mobilizing support for change, I had no idea the toll institutional racism in this setting and academe more generally would take on my physical health, my spirit and my passion for educating. …

Here are some lessons about surviving academe’s institutionalized racism that I have learned the hard way.

The job of a professor is physical work. In graduate school, I rarely heard discussions of the physicality of academe. … A short critical comment in faculty meeting requires brute force to momentarily pause my shaking hands as I stand to address fellow faculty. There is no alternative action in this example. To allow my hands to shake would undermine the little power I’ve amassed, but the physical exhaustion I feel afterward is palpable.

… I let students unload their experiences on me, but it is difficult to maintain emotional distance when we are angry about the same things. … I lost sleep, I cried. I want to give these students a voice but almost lost mine in the process. …

… I thought myself a burden to those struggling through their own fatigue.

I’m not just making fun of this essay. There really is a trend to proclaim oneself “exhausted.” Here are some other examples:

13 Stunning Photos Capture How Exhausting It Is to Deal With Daily Discrimination

MICROAGGRESSION AND RACIAL BATTLE FATIGUE

What it’s like to be black on campus: isolated, exhausted, calling for change

Black people aren’t making things up: The science behind ‘racial battle fatigue’

 
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  1. Mr Rooney says:

    Behold the crippling guilt wrought by the affirmative action Armageddon on the Academy

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    Behold a member of the Coalition of the Left Fringe presenting a narrative by an "anonymous professor of color" that normies generally shaking their head at "racial battle fatigue", with that narrative touted by Mr. Sailor as being held by mainstream liberals and "bad" whites (or is it "good" whites, I struggle with keeping up the proper verbiage).
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  2. bomag says:

    Just call her academic career what it is (in her mind), “Twelve Years a Slave”.

    Notice how this cohort of SJWs win every debate: if you suggest it is about hard work, they’ll tell you everyone works equally hard; but now that you’ve mentioned it, they are working harder than anyone else.

    If you suggest it is about intelligence, they’ll tell you everyone is equally intelligent; but now that you’ve mentioned it, they are smarter than anyone else.

    If you suggest it is about creativity, they’ll tell you everyone is equally creative; but now that you’ve mentioned it, they are more creative than anyone else.

    Etc.

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    • Replies: @Moses
    "All animals are equal. But some animals are more equal than others."

    It's remarkable how prescient was George Orwell.
    , @Wally
    She could always look for a job elsewhere.

    That's what most people do when they claim to be so miserable.

    an aside:

    Cultural Marxism Explained In 7 minutes
    by Joseph Salerno
    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/09/joseph-salerno/cultural-marxism-explained-in-7-minutes/
    , @Olorin
    Spot on IME...though I think the work part is different for them than the intelligence and creativity ones.

    Notice how this cohort of SJWs win every debate: if you suggest it is about hard work, they’ll tell you everyone works equally hard; but now that you’ve mentioned it, they are working harder than anyone else.
     
    One might conclude they are surprised to realize that life requires effort.

    Not unexpected for people who have spent toddlerhood to their 30s in school learning to manipulate a reward structure.

    That's a very different order of business from going to work, having to produce something that works, not leave till it's completed, and having people who can reject it as inadequate or not functional, then you start over or keep going till it's right.

    Also SJWs are starting from a (self-defined) deficit, so having to do even the minimum would require crossing a vast chasm of Effort.

    I.e., if they do nothing as an obese black transgender wheelchair bound bipolar AIDS patient, they start from +10,000 Effort whereas the white guys out fixing the electric grid after a hurricane start from -15,000 Effort. SJW puts in +10 Effort for rolling over to the fridge despite all the Fat Shaming and Ableism...and win the Effortpoints Game by a landslide.

    They also get to use the electric grid on demand and with subsidies...whereas its producers/maintainers get zero SJW points.

    There's an economics here, but it's totally batguano nutzoid.
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  3. I don’t doubt that these people really are exhausted. If they truly believe this nonsense, they really are fighting racism and sexism everywhere they go, all day and every day. I don’t have that kind of energy. I would just stay home. But when the actual hardships come, how are they going to be able to respond?

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    • Replies: @27 year old

    But when the actual hardships come, how are they going to be able to respond?
     
    When the American Troubles (tm) start Any Day Real Soon Now (tm) here's what they're going to do:

    1. Contact their IRL network of people who are similarly aggrieved and have already accepted violence as legitimate.

    2. Settle scores against Whites, who don't have an IRL network and who haven't accepted violence as legitimate.
    , @Citizen of a Silly Country
    I've been arguing something similar for a long time, namely that if this generation believes everything that they've been told - and why wouldn't they since the Narrative is promoted and enforced by every institution in society - you would be pretty angry, especially if you were black or brown.

    Society tells them that white racism is very real and responsible for pretty much every ill in their lives and leads to hundreds if not thousands of deaths among blacks and browns. NAMs are being kept in poverty, killed and generally demeaned by white racism, yet nobody is doing much to stop it. Yes, there are some government programs and some AA, but those have been around since the 1960s and are no longer improving the situation.

    If you were black or brown and worked in a setting with mostly whites - and you believed the Narrative which you should because literally everyone tells you that it's correct - it really would be frustrating and exhausting. You'd also think that it was high time to start getting more serious about eradicating white racism since whites seem unwilling to give it up under the current system.

    And if those whites refuse to give up their racism - which can be proved by any disparities in achievement between whites and blacks/browns - well, we might just need to get rid of ultimate source of the problem: White people.
    , @NOTA
    Ideologies have consequences. This one is screwing over a lot of smart and ambitious women who have learned to interpret every thoughtless word and gesture by a coworker, supervisor, student, advisor, etc., as more evidence for a vast conspiracy against them. They would do a lot better to start with a default assumption that their colleagues are just thoughtless and their students clueless—it must be emotionally exhausting to believe the worldview that many SJW types believe.
    , @guest
    Yeah, if I were to set myself the task of punching ghosts, I might end up flailing my arms at empty air all day. Because they could be anywhere, really. That'd be tiring.
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  4. I’m such an idiot! I actually clicked on the “13 stunning photos” link thinking they actually had photographic evidence of something.

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    • Replies: @duncsbaby
    I’m such an idiot! I actually clicked on the “13 stunning photos” link thinking they actually had photographic evidence of something.



    Me as well. It's like what Voltaire said about the Holy Roman Empire. There was neither 13, not stunning, nor photos.
    , @anon

    I’m such an idiot! I actually clicked on the …
     
    We’ve all been there but most of us won’t admit it to others. I think you could blame it on exhaustion … and what if there had been amazing photos?
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  5. Actually, the whole business model in the academic world is highly dehumanizing: basically, a Ponzi scheme with human beings as the tokens.

    To be a senior professor, you have to churn out multiple doctoral students, far, far more than the one that would suffice to replace you when you finally retire decades hence.

    So, the young, newly minted Ph.D.s have to engage in a fratricidal struggle to gain tenure. “Publish or perish” — except truly important contributions to human knowledge are few, far between, and unpredictable. So, you learn to fake it.

    And, you probably still lose to some lucky guy who fakes it a little bit better than the rest of you.

    I’m sure there are lots of biological analogies — like the sharks that eat their sibs while still inside the mother.

    For anyone who is wondering, no, I got out right after getting my Ph.D. But, I watched the process in fascination when I was a doctoral student and have continued to watch in horrified fascination in the decades since.

    People who could be perfectly good engineers, accountants, or dental assistants waste their lives on this.

    Something is very, very wrong in America.

    And almost no one talks openly about it.

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    I think Phil Greenspun said it earlier and better than most.

    http://philip.greenspun.com/careers/
    , @bob sykes
    Actually, at the more prestigious schools, you need to turn out at least one or two Ph. D. candidates merely to be considered for tenure.
    , @Yak-15
    I find it hilarious that the academy basically mirrors the worst aspects of exploitive capitalism. Debt serfdom, imprisonment in drudgery work, lack of promotion, inability to get long term benefits, stiff competition, unfair hierarchy where most of the money goes to the top while the rest live on unliveable wages, etc.

    The fact this woman has a tenure track professorship is an amazing opportunity. She should be counting her blessings, overusing the campus recreation facilities and publishing anything that crosses her mind.

    , @anonguy

    For anyone who is wondering, no, I got out right after getting my Ph.D. But, I watched the process in fascination when I was a doctoral student and have continued to watch in horrified fascination in the decades since.

    People who could be perfectly good engineers, accountants, or dental assistants waste their lives on this.
     

    I got my MS 20+ years ago and bailed at that point for all the reasons you note. I tell people the most important thing I learned in grad school was I didn't want a PhD. You really don't see the inside of this as an undergrad.

    I've been appalled since then by all the pious proclamations by academe on every thing from global warming to sexual morality knowing what an abominably retrograde and exploitative institution it is.

    There is no difference, and I mean none, between Harvey Weinstein exploiting wannabe actresses and your average professor exploiting grad students. And I mean sexually as well. Wouldn't surprise me if a #MeToo reckoning now sweeping the liberal bastions of entertainment and media engulfs the academy?

    Liberal, atheistic, hedonistic, unattractive - almost all male professors are trolly-looking guys, another reason to avoid the profession - guys in positions of gatekeeping authority over young, very young, aspirational women?

    What could possibly go wrong?

    , @Mr. Anon
    The situation at modern universities which you so accurately describe results in a lot of publications that really aren't very important, or even very good.

    I have also been told by several people who interviewed for tenure-track positions that the primary metric they would be judged on was funding. Not students mentored or papers published, but on the cash value of research contracts they pulled in. One guy even said he was flat out told that he was expected to be a profit-center for the university - that in order to get tenure he would need to bring in enough outside funding to cover what the university spent on him. The universities of course tax those research grants in the form of administrative overhead.

    Universities nowadays have largely become rackets.
    , @International Jew

    To be a senior professor, you have to churn out multiple doctoral students...
    So, the young, newly minted Ph.D.s have to engage in a fratricidal struggle to gain tenure.
     
    Come on Dave, it's not as bad as that. The number of institutions that produce PhDs is way smaller than the number that need to hire them. In economics, which is the field I know, some fifty PhD programs supply the other 2000 colleges in the USA.
    , @Anonymouse
    What field did you get your Ph.D. in and where?

    Earning a Ph.D. in a serious subject is a great honor and a great gift even if one is not employed in academia.

    There are unemployed Ph.D.'s who write papers and get them published in refereed journals. The term of art for these losers is "unaffiliated."
    , @Jeff77450
    Very well said. Thank you.
    , @guest
    I don't want to call it a "business model." Because it's not a business-proper, though it is a swindle, scheme, fraud, racket, rip-off, shakedown, whatever you want to call it.
    , @AndrewR
    Eight Agrees. Unz.com record?
    , @The Last Real Calvinist
    Thanks for this excellent comment, Dave.

    I think you've identified the key theme in the IHE essay: the writer is terrified she's not going to get tenure, or she's already been told she won't.

    Just listen to what she's really saying:


    I have found few liberal “havens” in academic spaces

     


    Most of us will be denied tenure

     


    I led poorly attended workshops

     


    I found an institution where skepticism permeates discussions of inequality

     


    Fellow faculty and administrators challenge my fit while also thrusting me into the limelight

     


    “Stand taller, take up space, remember you belong here” is a mantra I repeat often to myself. Tenure won’t change this, and publications won’t, either.

     

    Leading to her conclusion:

    I would love to be awarded tenure when the time comes, and I would like to publish social justice research in peer-reviewed journals, but I realize now that may not be my path.

     

    Since she's 'faculty of color', it's possible she's had nothing but spot-light-intensity encouragement and support all the way through school, undergrad degree, and grad school. She'd also have been an attractive diversity hire for many, many colleges, so she may have been courted at that stage, too. She might really be facing the first time in her life she's had to prove herself. If this is the case, then it's no wonder she's panicking.

    The writer's personal situation fits neatly into current academic narratives:

    ***The writer is off the hook for not producing enough to get tenure, since she's 'exhausted' from dealing with racism.

    ***Her department and institution are off the hook, since they can get rid of her (assuming that's what they want in this case), but blame institutional racism instead of the writer herself.

    ***Broader academia is off the hook, too. Racism is to blame for the failure of this promising young scholar, rather than the vicious academic 'Ponzi scheme' that exploits thousands upon thousands of young (and not so young) academics.

    The big winner is the ongoing social justice/identity politics/affirmative action regime. All of this exhaustion provides the 'proof' needed to justify the existence of preferences and rage-based politicking, plus a convenient guilt trip trigger for hapless white people who buy into the whole mess.

    It's also possible, of course, that the writer will try to use this published piece as leverage to get tenure after all. That would be a Disney-caliber ending in today's academic environment.

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  6. Clyde says:

    It would be interesting to know what her field is and what she is teaching. Of course we can eliminate anything STEM or close to it.

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    "It would be interesting to know what her field is and what she is teaching. Of course we can eliminate anything STEM or close to it."

    This is exactly what I was thinking.
    , @PNW_mossback
    I read the full article and the language looked very familiar - I'd seen a lot of it before.

    How about:
    Expertise: media arts, media and film, experimental media

    Related Subjects: Cultural Studies, Media and Film, Media Arts


    I'm not absolutely certain, but this may be the author. Lots more on Youtube.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doUn0WY33YU
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  7. Anonym says:
    @PhysicistDave
    Actually, the whole business model in the academic world is highly dehumanizing: basically, a Ponzi scheme with human beings as the tokens.

    To be a senior professor, you have to churn out multiple doctoral students, far, far more than the one that would suffice to replace you when you finally retire decades hence.

    So, the young, newly minted Ph.D.s have to engage in a fratricidal struggle to gain tenure. "Publish or perish" -- except truly important contributions to human knowledge are few, far between, and unpredictable. So, you learn to fake it.

    And, you probably still lose to some lucky guy who fakes it a little bit better than the rest of you.

    I'm sure there are lots of biological analogies -- like the sharks that eat their sibs while still inside the mother.

    For anyone who is wondering, no, I got out right after getting my Ph.D. But, I watched the process in fascination when I was a doctoral student and have continued to watch in horrified fascination in the decades since.

    People who could be perfectly good engineers, accountants, or dental assistants waste their lives on this.

    Something is very, very wrong in America.

    And almost no one talks openly about it.

    I think Phil Greenspun said it earlier and better than most.

    http://philip.greenspun.com/careers/

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  8. Anonym says:

    Readers, I will be honest with you: when I accepted my first tenure-track position,

    Try and work something WNish into a conversation with your superiors and see how fast you derail from your “tenure track”.

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    Try and work something WNish into a conversation with your superiors and see how fast you derail from your “tenure track”.
     
    Except that, like most Americans, this professor's superiors are all hardline white nationalists. How else could advocating against white nationalism be so exhausting?

    This chick is one of the few academics brave enough to advocate a liberal viewpoint, although she must do so anonymously for fear of reprisal.
    , @Forbes

    when I accepted my first tenure-track position
     
    How many tenure tracks has she been on...
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  9. “I raced toward my Ph.D. in search of social protection, professional stability and financial freedom. Instead, I found early-career emotional, physical and mental exhaustion.”

    Translating from SJW to standard English: I got the Ph.D. in quest of a what I thought would be a sinecure. But I actually had to come to work and do something and it made me sooooo tired.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    I had the same thought. Maybe academia is not too far gone if it makes things tough on grifters like this woman.
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  10. Arclight says:

    Someone who describes themselves and their goal as ‘mobilizing for change’ is a person who decided to be outraged all of the time. So yes, I believe her that she is emotionally drained but it’s entirely self-generated.

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  11. bob sykes says:

    The only cure for her troubles is strict racial segregation. There are a number of Black colleges scattered around the US, mostly in the US, she should apply for a job at one of those.

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    The only cure for her troubles is strict racial segregation. There are a number of Black colleges scattered around the US, mostly in the US, she should apply for a job at one of those.
     
    Not the only cure, but probably the best.

    When talented tenth blacks weren't treated as honorary whites, the black "community" (which it really was then, moreso than today by far) had better leadership by far than today. Blacks mostly knew the truth, on some level: they just didn't have "the necessities", and they did the best they could with only incidental envy and resentment.

    This woman probably could have had a retail management or junior high schoolteacher job and been a success, but in the university environment she's out of her depth. She knows it, which is why she's flailing.
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  12. bob sykes says:
    @PhysicistDave
    Actually, the whole business model in the academic world is highly dehumanizing: basically, a Ponzi scheme with human beings as the tokens.

    To be a senior professor, you have to churn out multiple doctoral students, far, far more than the one that would suffice to replace you when you finally retire decades hence.

    So, the young, newly minted Ph.D.s have to engage in a fratricidal struggle to gain tenure. "Publish or perish" -- except truly important contributions to human knowledge are few, far between, and unpredictable. So, you learn to fake it.

    And, you probably still lose to some lucky guy who fakes it a little bit better than the rest of you.

    I'm sure there are lots of biological analogies -- like the sharks that eat their sibs while still inside the mother.

    For anyone who is wondering, no, I got out right after getting my Ph.D. But, I watched the process in fascination when I was a doctoral student and have continued to watch in horrified fascination in the decades since.

    People who could be perfectly good engineers, accountants, or dental assistants waste their lives on this.

    Something is very, very wrong in America.

    And almost no one talks openly about it.

    Actually, at the more prestigious schools, you need to turn out at least one or two Ph. D. candidates merely to be considered for tenure.

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  13. NickG says:

    We need new technical and stem institutions – career orientated, these to achieve some form of accreditation and deliver the bulk of their syllabus on-line and to be entirely meritocratic. The academic bubble must be burst and universities and the current academic institutions with their liberal-fascism stranglehold should be dis-intermediated.

    The academia bubble must be burst.

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    I meant to write this earlier, Nick - right now probably no mod, due to Steve in the land of nod.

    The academia bubble must be burst.
     
    Agreed that it is a bubble, but it's a double-bubble, like the gum. There is a financial side also to this bubble due to the Feral government's long-term policy of guarantying student loans for any old major. See, this double bubble doesn't need to BE burst; it will burst of its own accord from a pop in the financial side.
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  14. duncsbaby says:
    @Tim Howells
    I'm such an idiot! I actually clicked on the "13 stunning photos" link thinking they actually had photographic evidence of something.

    I’m such an idiot! I actually clicked on the “13 stunning photos” link thinking they actually had photographic evidence of something.

    Me as well. It’s like what Voltaire said about the Holy Roman Empire. There was neither 13, not stunning, nor photos.

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    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Come on guys! That's like the oldest trick on the web. "You wouldn't believe what iSteve's young female intern did by mistake! Click here, and see this wardrobe malfunction."

    Hell, it's probably older than HTML itself.
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  15. Art Deco says:

    Academe and the training and staffing of academe is pathological in its way and is so for people who are quite reasonable. The thing is, the ways of academe are such that they tend to collect and succor damaged individuals who attribute the issue of their emotional problems to conditions in their social matrix. The problem is compounded for minorities because many of them have traipsed through college, graduate school, and then the academic job market contending with systematic dishonesty on the part of faculty and administrators who wanted them as amulets.

    The results are sometimes almost tragic. I recall attending in 2001 a public panel discussion of which one of the members was a black and female education professor. It was clear from her remarks (and can be seen from her writings) that she was a simulacrum of an academic, a producer of jargon strings who engaged in nothing resembling academic research. Supposedly, she was a ‘curriculum theorist’ but when you looked at the few articles she’d placed in professional journals they contained neither theory nor anything about curriculum.

    One article I looked at was a biographical account. That the editor did not simply mail it back to her without submitting to peer review is indicative of the unseriousness of the publication in question. Anyhoo, she’d says in the article she’d gone to graduate school after a stint working as a television news reporter. You see, she wasn’t getting assignments and air time because of ‘racism’. If you’d ever heard this woman speak or had a conversation with her, you’d know bloody well that she her employment in television news was quite anomalous to begin with. Her elocution was terrible and when she got in front of a mic you had to make an effort to discern what she was saying.

    When I last crossed paths with her, she was 34 years old, unmarried, childless, and (if I’m not mistaken) had failed her employer’s 6th semester pre-tenure review and was thus hunting for work elsewhere. (Astonishingly, another school actually hired and tenured her, which should warn you off seeking a teaching certificate from that place).

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  16. University teaching is a bad career choice. There are hundreds of qualified PhDs and not so many 18-year olds. The universities know it and know that anyone can be replaced in a minute.

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    "not so many 18-year olds"

    Which might explain why people are pushing for college to turn into high school, with universal enrollment. Paid for by whomever. Every human being who reaches the age of 18 gets to go, unless they have a hole in their head or produce more than a bucket's-worth of drool per hour.

    Which may compound the problem, because that's all the more people wasting their time in academia, eventually competing for jobs.
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  17. Yak-15 says:
    @PhysicistDave
    Actually, the whole business model in the academic world is highly dehumanizing: basically, a Ponzi scheme with human beings as the tokens.

    To be a senior professor, you have to churn out multiple doctoral students, far, far more than the one that would suffice to replace you when you finally retire decades hence.

    So, the young, newly minted Ph.D.s have to engage in a fratricidal struggle to gain tenure. "Publish or perish" -- except truly important contributions to human knowledge are few, far between, and unpredictable. So, you learn to fake it.

    And, you probably still lose to some lucky guy who fakes it a little bit better than the rest of you.

    I'm sure there are lots of biological analogies -- like the sharks that eat their sibs while still inside the mother.

    For anyone who is wondering, no, I got out right after getting my Ph.D. But, I watched the process in fascination when I was a doctoral student and have continued to watch in horrified fascination in the decades since.

    People who could be perfectly good engineers, accountants, or dental assistants waste their lives on this.

    Something is very, very wrong in America.

    And almost no one talks openly about it.

    I find it hilarious that the academy basically mirrors the worst aspects of exploitive capitalism. Debt serfdom, imprisonment in drudgery work, lack of promotion, inability to get long term benefits, stiff competition, unfair hierarchy where most of the money goes to the top while the rest live on unliveable wages, etc.

    The fact this woman has a tenure track professorship is an amazing opportunity. She should be counting her blessings, overusing the campus recreation facilities and publishing anything that crosses her mind.

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    I was excited to formally join the academy. I naïvely assumed the bubble of academe would insulate me from, well, everything. I raced toward my Ph.D. in search of social protection, professional stability and financial freedom.
     
    Looks like she was on the cusp of getting everything she had hoped for…..


    God I hope somebody outs her!
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  18. Cindy says:

    Tilting at windmills has always been exhausting. So is playing air guitar and boxing with phantoms, if you do it with enough enthusiasm.

    Kinda wonder if this person has ever done any actual physical labor at all. Making your hands not shake requires brute force? No, it requires deep breathing.

    Also note that the things she expected from her phd are security, stability, and cash. A good husband would have been a better bet for this fragile lady. She certainly doesn’t belong out in the world around people who are trying to get things done.

    (I admit, this being about academia, and probably some area of inquiry that ends in “studies” it is highly possible that no one is actually trying to get anything done. But anyway…)

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  19. @william munny
    I don't doubt that these people really are exhausted. If they truly believe this nonsense, they really are fighting racism and sexism everywhere they go, all day and every day. I don't have that kind of energy. I would just stay home. But when the actual hardships come, how are they going to be able to respond?

    But when the actual hardships come, how are they going to be able to respond?

    When the American Troubles ™ start Any Day Real Soon Now ™ here’s what they’re going to do:

    1. Contact their IRL network of people who are similarly aggrieved and have already accepted violence as legitimate.

    2. Settle scores against Whites, who don’t have an IRL network and who haven’t accepted violence as legitimate.

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    Gonna be some SJWs and Boomers who's last words will be "But I'm not a racist!" that suffer. So nothing of value will be lost.

    Smarter whites will respond appropriately.
    , @Kevin C.

    1. Contact their IRL network of people who are similarly aggrieved and have already accepted violence as legitimate.

    2. Settle scores against Whites, who don’t have an IRL network and who haven’t accepted violence as legitimate.
     
    Isn't this pretty much the same point David Hines has been making?
    , @Reg Cæsar

    1. Contact their IRL network of people
     
    Do you have a URL for IRL?

    I lent out my copy of Human Textual Response.
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  20. Nico says:

    The truth is that higher-education in America has become part-racket and part-sweatshop. Too many Ph.D.s are cranked out and the situation is exacerbated by the increasing preference for adjunct professors rather than tenured academics. Of course, the quality of most Ph.D.s has declined dramatically, as well: the hardy proletarian scholar is nowadays little more than a glorified underpaid journalist whose education cost far too much and this article is the proof positive. And this sort of rant plays well into the hands of the culprits: POCs and whites alike are overworked and underpaid at institutions of higher education and blaming “racism” for the consequent exhaustion is a good excuse for the universities to do zilch about the actual problem. She probably deserves the low salary she gets, but she’s part of a trend that drags down many far more meritorious candidates along with her. And, to boot, an unwitting (probably) enabler.

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    Of course, the quality of most Ph.D.s has declined dramatically,


    Just north of 30,000 research doctorates are awarded in academic subjects each year. There would be another bloc in vocational subjects (engineering, public policy &c). No, you didn't read a sample of the dissertations and no you cannot have much critical engagement with more than a small fraction of the dissertations submitted.
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  21. The job of a professor is physical work. In graduate school, I rarely heard discussions of the physicality of academe. … A short critical comment in faculty meeting requires brute force to momentarily pause my shaking hands

    OK, I think I can help you. Take those bags of Quikrete, no, over there in the bed of my truck, those 80 lb. bags. Yeah, take those 25 bags and move them over to the mixer. I also need about 30 more 1 x’s, some 8″ ones, for the forms, over here in a few minutes, yeah 10 ft ones, don’t bring one at a time, what are you, a girl?

    OK, now bring 5 wheelbarrows of sand over from the pile by the street over to the mixer, and go jump start my truck, as I’ve gotta get lunch…

    Say, how are your hands now, lady? No more days off from you or I’ll hire those 5 Senors-of-Color over there to do 10 x your work for about the same as I’m paying you. You said this was a research project, so I’m tryin’ to take it easy on you – you are gonna get us those 5 game tickets, right?

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    I also need about 30 more 1 x’s, some 8″ ones, for the forms, over here in a few minutes, yeah 10 ft ones, don’t bring one at a time, what are you, a girl?
     

    I also need about 30 more 1 x’s, some 8″ ones, for the forms, over here in a few minutes, yeah 10 ft ones, don’t bring one at a time, what are you, a fucking girl?
     
    There, fixed it to real-world for ya! I've poured a lot of thin-set concrete from the 50 pound bags, I know how it's really said. Merry Fuckin' Christmas.
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  22. Danindc says:

    At least when MLK proclaimed “I is tired” he likely was coming off a booze-fueled orgy in his penthouse suite.

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  23. Back in the 70s “small liberal college” was the usual beginning to a ribald Dear Penthouse letter.

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    "I'm a student at a small liberal arts college. I never believed any of these Letters to Penthouse, until one night ..."
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  24. @Elmer T. Jones
    Back in the 70s "small liberal college" was the usual beginning to a ribald Dear Penthouse letter.

    “I’m a student at a small liberal arts college. I never believed any of these Letters to Penthouse, until one night …”

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    Haha... Steve, please get some sleep.

    This SJW Perv-ural Revolution you've been documenting here is putting me in the frame of mind to write another in an up"coming" series of Hans Moleman(?) style warnings:

    Mind you, I've only got the first part, but I gotta go...

    "First they came for the Charlies Angels, but they said nothing until their Moms tore down their Farrah Faucett posters from the inside of their bedroom doors ..."

    , @ganderson
    I always thought it was "I am a student at a large Midwestern university..."
    , @Jaded Jimmy
    "My hands start to shake at the very memory!"
    , @JMcG
    I titled mine , “A Lesbian No More.”
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  25. Brabantian says: • Website

    Curious catalogue in the ‘Alt-Right’ ‘Renegade Tribune’, article by Roger Mace

    http://www.renegadetribune.com/state-alt-right/

    giving 14 Jewish or Jewish-linked “e-celeb personalities, ‘leaders’ of the Alternative Right aka Zionist Right”, the author Roger Mace commenting -

    No wonder Jewish journalists can’t get enough of this ‘movement’!

    Mike Cernovich: Twice admitted to Jewish ancestry, never criticizing Jews

    Mike ‘Enoch’ Peinovich: Married a Jewess, used to be pro-Israel on his website ‘TRS – The Right Stuff’

    Ramsey ‘RamZ’ Paul: Admits to Jewish ancestry, behaves like an FBI informant, close friends with Jewish journalists, joking about paedophilia

    Milo Yiannopoulos: Jewish, homosexual

    Stefan Molyneux: Jewish, has an obsession with pitting children against their parents

    Andrew ‘weev’ Auernheimer: Jewish

    Curtis Yavin: Jewish, Zionist supremacist, associated with Peter Thiel

    Richard Spencer: Supports Zionism, rumours about Jewish ancestor

    Alex Jones: Married a Jewess, never criticizes Jews, pushes implausible conspiracy theories that point away from Jews and Deep State operations

    Jared Taylor: Supports Jewish supremacy, ardent Zionist

    Theodore Robert Beale aka ‘Vox Day’: Supports Israel and Zionism

    Jason Kessler: FBI associate, probably Jewish

    Pax Dickinson: Founder of ‘Alt-Right’ party with ultra-Zionist Jewish Peter Belau

    Matt Forney: Had Jewish girlfriend Ann Sterzinger

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    A_____B_____: has Jewish dentist.

    K____C____: once ate a corned beef sandwich on Jewish rye bread.

    D_____F___: uses kosher salt in his cooking.

    If only there was some office where these poor falsely accused people could go and get a certificate attesting to their non-Jewishness after providing suitable genealogical proof.
    , @Samuel Skinner
    Vox Day

    The Alt Right is opposed to the rule or domination of any native ethnic group by another, particularly in the sovereign homelands of the dominated peoples. The Alt Right is opposed to any non-native ethnic group obtaining excessive influence in any society through nepotism, tribalism, or any other means.
     
    He is talking about Jews.
    , @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Goodness knows that I have my issues with influential Jews trying to destroy my people but supporting the right of Jews to have a Jewish state is absolutely consistent with most "Alt-right" people, at least according to my definition.

    Most alt-righters believe in ethnic nationalism as opposed to Bannon's (and Steve's) civic nationalism. We simply believe that races and ethnicities (peoples) should have the right to self-determination and that nation-states are better for all than multi-racial, multi-ethnic, multi-everything proposition nations.

    Israel is an embodiment of that ideal, as is Japan.

    Now, that doesn't mean that I have to agree with everything that Israel (or Japan for that matter) does as a country, just that I think Jews should have their own country (or very autonomous enclaves within a country) as should Germans, as should the ethnic French as should European Americans if they so choose.
    , @27 year old
    If Matt Forney is who I think he is, that list is BS because that dude never had a girlfriend.
    , @anonitron1
    Hey that's great man but can you take it somewhere people regularly obsess about proving people are tangentially related to Jews?

    Maybe you and that guy from the other day who went on a 2,000 word rant about the similarities between Norse paganism and Zoroastrianism can have a long and private discussion about it?
    , @Jasper Been
    Probably the only thing more lame than being in the "alt right" is keeping track of who is or is not Jewish in the alt right.
    , @guest
    This confuses the issue by playing with the differing meanings of "alternative right" (anything on the right not part of the mainstream, or more particularly not in the service of Conservatism, Inc.) and "alt-right" (the populist nationalist movement on the right.

    Cernovich is not alt-right. Neither is Milo, and they're very vocal on the point. Molyneux is drifting that way, but he's still not there. All of these guys are what we call "alt-lite."

    Yarvin is Moldbug, who was massively influential on the alternative right but is in fact neoreactionary. (And not a Zionist supremacist, though he did apologize for the state of Israel.) He was neither a nationalist nor a populist.
    , @Bro Methylene
    I too have noticed that Alex Jones, like Ann Coulter, is a professional attention-diverter. Their tactics seem to work on tens of millions of American voters.
    , @Anonymous
    The late Robert Whitaker was, as far as I could tell, a "pro-Zionist" in that he figured that if all Jews went to Israel they'd be out of our hair. The late Rabbi Meir Kahane believed that all Jews and only Jews should live in Israel. (I believe he himself divided his time between Israel and New York.)

    So being pro-Zionist _in that sense_ , like being pro-PR independista, is not only contrary to white nationalism but in harmony with it. The US subsidizing Israel and going to war for it, on the other hand, are insane under any circumstance beyond the extirpation of White America, and for that matter, Black America too (not that we give that much of a care).
    , @MEH 0910

    Richard Spencer: Supports Zionism, rumours about Jewish ancestor
     
    https://you.23andme.com/published/reports/37920f26c710401d/

    https://twitter.com/richardbspencer/status/816721891331375104?lang=en
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  26. @duncsbaby
    I’m such an idiot! I actually clicked on the “13 stunning photos” link thinking they actually had photographic evidence of something.



    Me as well. It's like what Voltaire said about the Holy Roman Empire. There was neither 13, not stunning, nor photos.

    Come on guys! That’s like the oldest trick on the web. “You wouldn’t believe what iSteve’s young female intern did by mistake! Click here, and see this wardrobe malfunction.”

    Hell, it’s probably older than HTML itself.

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    When AI destroys the world, it probably was a clickbait effort.
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  27. CCZ says:

    “I have four words….Cry me a river.” Leonard Pitts

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    I tried to agree with you, but the Agree button wasn’t working. So I’ll have to agree with you the old-fashioned way.
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  28. @Steve Sailer
    "I'm a student at a small liberal arts college. I never believed any of these Letters to Penthouse, until one night ..."

    Haha… Steve, please get some sleep.

    This SJW Perv-ural Revolution you’ve been documenting here is putting me in the frame of mind to write another in an up”coming” series of Hans Moleman(?) style warnings:

    Mind you, I’ve only got the first part, but I gotta go…

    “First they came for the Charlies Angels, but they said nothing until their Moms tore down their Farrah Faucett posters from the inside of their bedroom doors …”

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    Hey, in 1978 my brother and I not only had the classic Farrah poster with the red swimsuit, we also had the one where she's (sort-of) wearing a white button shirt, while sitting sideways on a chair.

    But, I gotta confess, the Cheryl Tiegs poster was even better: the one where she's got her her thumb in the side of her bikini still makes me dizzy thinking about it.

    The late 1970's should be known not for stagflation or the Oil Shocks or the Iranian Crisis but instead as the age of Farrah and Cheryl . . .

    https://postermania.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/cheryl-tiegs-pink.jpg


    https://postermania.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/farrah-blue-2-versions.jpg
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  29. Moses says:

    I feel just terrible that this woman suffers daily emotional trauma at the hands of Whites. This injustice cannot continue.

    Racial separation is the answer.

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  30. Moses says:
    @bomag
    Just call her academic career what it is (in her mind), "Twelve Years a Slave".

    Notice how this cohort of SJWs win every debate: if you suggest it is about hard work, they'll tell you everyone works equally hard; but now that you've mentioned it, they are working harder than anyone else.

    If you suggest it is about intelligence, they'll tell you everyone is equally intelligent; but now that you've mentioned it, they are smarter than anyone else.

    If you suggest it is about creativity, they'll tell you everyone is equally creative; but now that you've mentioned it, they are more creative than anyone else.

    Etc.

    “All animals are equal. But some animals are more equal than others.”

    It’s remarkable how prescient was George Orwell.

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  31. The Z Blog says: • Website

    A popular concept in Xirl Science is authoethnography.

    Autoethnography is a form of qualitative research in which an author uses self-reflection and writing to explore their personal experience and connect this autobiographical story to wider cultural, political, and social meanings and understandings.

    In a better age, girls would dress up and go to parties to gain the attention of males. Today, they self-mutilate, complain endlessly about their emotions and write dissertation about how they feel about things. The trouble is there are no suitable men to pay attention.

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  32. @27 year old

    But when the actual hardships come, how are they going to be able to respond?
     
    When the American Troubles (tm) start Any Day Real Soon Now (tm) here's what they're going to do:

    1. Contact their IRL network of people who are similarly aggrieved and have already accepted violence as legitimate.

    2. Settle scores against Whites, who don't have an IRL network and who haven't accepted violence as legitimate.

    Gonna be some SJWs and Boomers who’s last words will be “But I’m not a racist!” that suffer. So nothing of value will be lost.

    Smarter whites will respond appropriately.

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  33. Jellybean says:

    Don’t mock – it’s torture crawling over the glass from Haven Monahan’s coffee table, just to get stared at when you stand up at a staff meeting because your grown-ass woman’s hands are shaking so hard you look like all your Ritalin just wore off.
    Hoping this will all fit on my back for the photo shoot.

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  34. Art Deco says:
    @Nico
    The truth is that higher-education in America has become part-racket and part-sweatshop. Too many Ph.D.s are cranked out and the situation is exacerbated by the increasing preference for adjunct professors rather than tenured academics. Of course, the quality of most Ph.D.s has declined dramatically, as well: the hardy proletarian scholar is nowadays little more than a glorified underpaid journalist whose education cost far too much and this article is the proof positive. And this sort of rant plays well into the hands of the culprits: POCs and whites alike are overworked and underpaid at institutions of higher education and blaming "racism" for the consequent exhaustion is a good excuse for the universities to do zilch about the actual problem. She probably deserves the low salary she gets, but she's part of a trend that drags down many far more meritorious candidates along with her. And, to boot, an unwitting (probably) enabler.

    Of course, the quality of most Ph.D.s has declined dramatically,

    Just north of 30,000 research doctorates are awarded in academic subjects each year. There would be another bloc in vocational subjects (engineering, public policy &c). No, you didn’t read a sample of the dissertations and no you cannot have much critical engagement with more than a small fraction of the dissertations submitted.

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    The numbers alone tell the story. This is way more than the # that the economy needs. Even if all of these tens of thousands of dissertations were "high quality" (and they ain't), there are just too many of them. A lot of PhDs end up with no job in their field. Or else they become post-docs with no job security and THEN after being exploited a few more years, they still end up with no job.

    https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2014/12/08/number-phds-awarded-climbs-recipients-job-prospects-dropping
    , @anon

    Of course, the quality of most Ph.D.s has declined dramatically,

    Just north of 30,000 research doctorates are awarded in academic subjects each year. There would be another bloc in vocational subjects (engineering, public policy &c). No, you didn’t read a sample of the dissertations and no you cannot have much critical engagement with more than a small fraction of the dissertations submitted.
     
    You’re right, Nico is full of it! The Egg-McWhopper I had this morning was made by a Ph.D. (Harvard, Sociology) and it was excellent!
    , @Mr. Anon
    Neither did you, butthead. And yet you still manage to have an opinion.

    You have an (ill-informed) opinion on everything, you prating nitwit. We don't care about your opinions. Go back to your own website, and have an extended conversation with your only true audience - yourself.
    , @snorlax
    I've met enough (education[1]|sociology|cultural anthropology|* studies|...[2]) PhDs that I don't need to read their dissertations to say they aren't exactly a group of intellectual heavyweights.

    Then there are all the fields that do attract some smart people but the field itself is complete bullshit, including but hardly limited to (psychology|economics|climatology|linguistics)[3].

    I hardly even need mention there's a strong inverse correlation between the rigor of a PhD program and the likelihood a degree-holder insists on the title "Dr."

    [1] Which, IIRC, alone accounts for more than half of new "PhDs."

    [2] I recently met a student of "cartography," which I had thought was just an absurd joke Arrested Development had made up. The program, which seemed to revolve around excuses to go on rich kid vacations and very occasionally drawing woke redlining/magic dirt maps, did not seem particularly rigorous.

    [3] Whose corresponding non-bullshit disciplines are (psychiatry|quantitative analysis|meteorology|natural language processing). Note that the non-bullshitters typically employ or have academic backgrounds in precisely zero (0) of the bullshit publications and theories.
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  35. @Achmed E. Newman

    The job of a professor is physical work. In graduate school, I rarely heard discussions of the physicality of academe. … A short critical comment in faculty meeting requires brute force to momentarily pause my shaking hands
     
    OK, I think I can help you. Take those bags of Quikrete, no, over there in the bed of my truck, those 80 lb. bags. Yeah, take those 25 bags and move them over to the mixer. I also need about 30 more 1 x's, some 8" ones, for the forms, over here in a few minutes, yeah 10 ft ones, don't bring one at a time, what are you, a girl?

    OK, now bring 5 wheelbarrows of sand over from the pile by the street over to the mixer, and go jump start my truck, as I've gotta get lunch...

    Say, how are your hands now, lady? No more days off from you or I'll hire those 5 Senors-of-Color over there to do 10 x your work for about the same as I'm paying you. You said this was a research project, so I'm tryin' to take it easy on you - you are gonna get us those 5 game tickets, right?

    I also need about 30 more 1 x’s, some 8″ ones, for the forms, over here in a few minutes, yeah 10 ft ones, don’t bring one at a time, what are you, a girl?

    I also need about 30 more 1 x’s, some 8″ ones, for the forms, over here in a few minutes, yeah 10 ft ones, don’t bring one at a time, what are you, a fucking girl?

    There, fixed it to real-world for ya! I’ve poured a lot of thin-set concrete from the 50 pound bags, I know how it’s really said. Merry Fuckin’ Christmas.

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  36. sabril says:

    I would guess a lot of this exhaustion is actually caused by obesity and then blamed on external circumstances. It’s a fact that a lot of obese people don’t realize just how fat they are.

    This would also explain why “exhaustion” is more common among “women of color.”

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    Sort of what I was thinking. Being fat can be tiring, particularly if you don't work out, which I'm guessing most SJWs don't.

    Complaining constantly is tiring too.
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  37. MEH 0910 says:

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXKmsvRXE4A

    When I got off the jetliner in Rio de Janeiro in 1978, the Rio airport was playing Grand Funk Railroad as airport music.

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  38. njguy73 says:

    This scene is all anyone needs:

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    Young Ackroyd looks just like my brother Paulie!
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  39. Jack D says:
    @Art Deco
    Of course, the quality of most Ph.D.s has declined dramatically,


    Just north of 30,000 research doctorates are awarded in academic subjects each year. There would be another bloc in vocational subjects (engineering, public policy &c). No, you didn't read a sample of the dissertations and no you cannot have much critical engagement with more than a small fraction of the dissertations submitted.

    The numbers alone tell the story. This is way more than the # that the economy needs. Even if all of these tens of thousands of dissertations were “high quality” (and they ain’t), there are just too many of them. A lot of PhDs end up with no job in their field. Or else they become post-docs with no job security and THEN after being exploited a few more years, they still end up with no job.

    https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2014/12/08/number-phds-awarded-climbs-recipients-job-prospects-dropping

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    People who tell you they have a handle on the quality of dissertations across a dozen different fields in 1948 and on quality today nearly all have one thing in common: they're lying to themselves if they're not lying to you.

    Across an array of professions, the ratio of practitioners to annual degree awards at this time is as follows:

    Architecture: 28 (master's the denominator)
    Engineering: 16.5 (bachelor's the denominator)
    Dentistry: 21
    Optometry: 24
    Pharmacy: 21 (PharmD)
    Medicine: 27.5 (M.D. and D.O)
    Physical Therapy: 20.5 (DPT)
    Veterinary medicine: 24
    Law: 17 (JD)
    Clergy: 3.5 (M. Div)
    Psychology: 24.5 (PhD. and PsyD. - 23% of working psychologists are post-secondary teachers)
    Physics: 17 (PhD, 46% are post-secondary teachers)
    Chemistry: 37 (PhD, 19% are post-secondary teachers)
    Sociology: 22.5 (PhD, incl urban studies; 84% are post-secondary teachers)
    Economics: 28.5 (PhD, 40% are postsecondary teachers)
    Anthropology: 20.5 (PhD, 47% are postsecondary teachers)
    History: 25 (PhD, 88% are postsecondary teachers)
    Philosophy / Comparative Religion: 30.5 (PhD, all postsecondary teachers)
    English: 48 (PhD, all are postsecondary teachers)

    Caveats: postsecondary teachers tend to work about 70% time on average and about 1/4 work for community colleges, for which a research degree might be somewhat de trop (though very common). The other is that the denominator is the number awarded in 2015, not the mean number awarded since 1982 or thereabouts, which would be more valid.
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  40. @MEH 0910
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iPJqVVGxx8

    When I got off the jetliner in Rio de Janeiro in 1978, the Rio airport was playing Grand Funk Railroad as airport music.

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    We're an American Band is my go-to song if I must sing karaoke.
    , @anon
    The Loco-Motion was pretty good. I blame Todd Rundgren for that.
    , @2Mintzin1
    They were sort of the Van Halen of the late 60's -early 70's.
    , @Anonymous

    Rio de Janeiro in 1978
     
    Sigh. I bet that was nice.

    Don't go back. You can never go back.
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  41. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Stephen Paul Foster
    "I raced toward my Ph.D. in search of social protection, professional stability and financial freedom. Instead, I found early-career emotional, physical and mental exhaustion."

    Translating from SJW to standard English: I got the Ph.D. in quest of a what I thought would be a sinecure. But I actually had to come to work and do something and it made me sooooo tired.

    I had the same thought. Maybe academia is not too far gone if it makes things tough on grifters like this woman.

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  42. Jack D says:
    @Brabantian
    Curious catalogue in the 'Alt-Right' 'Renegade Tribune', article by Roger Mace
    http://www.renegadetribune.com/state-alt-right/
    giving 14 Jewish or Jewish-linked "e-celeb personalities, 'leaders' of the Alternative Right aka Zionist Right", the author Roger Mace commenting -


    No wonder Jewish journalists can’t get enough of this 'movement'!

    Mike Cernovich: Twice admitted to Jewish ancestry, never criticizing Jews

    Mike 'Enoch' Peinovich: Married a Jewess, used to be pro-Israel on his website 'TRS - The Right Stuff'

    Ramsey 'RamZ' Paul: Admits to Jewish ancestry, behaves like an FBI informant, close friends with Jewish journalists, joking about paedophilia

    Milo Yiannopoulos: Jewish, homosexual

    Stefan Molyneux: Jewish, has an obsession with pitting children against their parents

    Andrew 'weev' Auernheimer: Jewish

    Curtis Yavin: Jewish, Zionist supremacist, associated with Peter Thiel

    Richard Spencer: Supports Zionism, rumours about Jewish ancestor

    Alex Jones: Married a Jewess, never criticizes Jews, pushes implausible conspiracy theories that point away from Jews and Deep State operations

    Jared Taylor: Supports Jewish supremacy, ardent Zionist

    Theodore Robert Beale aka 'Vox Day': Supports Israel and Zionism

    Jason Kessler: FBI associate, probably Jewish

    Pax Dickinson: Founder of 'Alt-Right' party with ultra-Zionist Jewish Peter Belau

    Matt Forney: Had Jewish girlfriend Ann Sterzinger

     

    A_____B_____: has Jewish dentist.

    K____C____: once ate a corned beef sandwich on Jewish rye bread.

    D_____F___: uses kosher salt in his cooking.

    If only there was some office where these poor falsely accused people could go and get a certificate attesting to their non-Jewishness after providing suitable genealogical proof.

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  43. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @sabril
    I would guess a lot of this exhaustion is actually caused by obesity and then blamed on external circumstances. It's a fact that a lot of obese people don't realize just how fat they are.

    This would also explain why "exhaustion" is more common among "women of color."

    Sort of what I was thinking. Being fat can be tiring, particularly if you don’t work out, which I’m guessing most SJWs don’t.

    Complaining constantly is tiring too.

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    Toe-standers. Those are obese people forced by circumstances outside their control to stand. Their only relief is to shift their weight from one foot to the other because they can't manage to stand on both feet at the same time. Their feet, ankles, knees and hips can't handle the weight.
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  44. @Achmed E. Newman
    Come on guys! That's like the oldest trick on the web. "You wouldn't believe what iSteve's young female intern did by mistake! Click here, and see this wardrobe malfunction."

    Hell, it's probably older than HTML itself.

    When AI destroys the world, it probably was a clickbait effort.

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    Does AI get horny? I have noticed my phone try to buzz me more often than it should be. I've started putting it in a different pocket.
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  45. @william munny
    I don't doubt that these people really are exhausted. If they truly believe this nonsense, they really are fighting racism and sexism everywhere they go, all day and every day. I don't have that kind of energy. I would just stay home. But when the actual hardships come, how are they going to be able to respond?

    I’ve been arguing something similar for a long time, namely that if this generation believes everything that they’ve been told – and why wouldn’t they since the Narrative is promoted and enforced by every institution in society – you would be pretty angry, especially if you were black or brown.

    Society tells them that white racism is very real and responsible for pretty much every ill in their lives and leads to hundreds if not thousands of deaths among blacks and browns. NAMs are being kept in poverty, killed and generally demeaned by white racism, yet nobody is doing much to stop it. Yes, there are some government programs and some AA, but those have been around since the 1960s and are no longer improving the situation.

    If you were black or brown and worked in a setting with mostly whites – and you believed the Narrative which you should because literally everyone tells you that it’s correct – it really would be frustrating and exhausting. You’d also think that it was high time to start getting more serious about eradicating white racism since whites seem unwilling to give it up under the current system.

    And if those whites refuse to give up their racism – which can be proved by any disparities in achievement between whites and blacks/browns – well, we might just need to get rid of ultimate source of the problem: White people.

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    In my opinion, black women and black men who survive their crazy years choose to accommodate reality as best they can. The more insightful of them (the so-called talented tenth) have a pretty good sense of what black people are capable of and what not. As they have no agency, they must accept the life they live.
    , @Rod1963

    And if those whites refuse to give up their racism – which can be proved by any disparities in achievement between whites and blacks/browns – well, we might just need to get rid of ultimate source of the problem: White people.
     
    And that's coming down the road. Because you know damn well they aren't going to be content with just hating whitey. Hell they'll want him dead and buried.

    What do you think the GOP was doing for the last 25 years embracing open borders and globalization along destroying the industrial sector that provided jobs for most lower class whites?

    Hell you could see with their embrace of illegals while giving whitey the FOAD routine.

    Look the GOP has bought into the same crap that the Left has in regards to race. The GOP is always going on about how color blind they are, etc.
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  46. @NickG
    We need new technical and stem institutions - career orientated, these to achieve some form of accreditation and deliver the bulk of their syllabus on-line and to be entirely meritocratic. The academic bubble must be burst and universities and the current academic institutions with their liberal-fascism stranglehold should be dis-intermediated.

    The academia bubble must be burst.

    I meant to write this earlier, Nick – right now probably no mod, due to Steve in the land of nod.

    The academia bubble must be burst.

    Agreed that it is a bubble, but it’s a double-bubble, like the gum. There is a financial side also to this bubble due to the Feral government’s long-term policy of guarantying student loans for any old major. See, this double bubble doesn’t need to BE burst; it will burst of its own accord from a pop in the financial side.

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  47. @Daniel Chieh
    When AI destroys the world, it probably was a clickbait effort.

    Does AI get horny? I have noticed my phone try to buzz me more often than it should be. I’ve started putting it in a different pocket.

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  48. TheBoom says:

    This is why Africans are so lucky. They are energized by having to scrounge for their next meal.

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  49. anonguy says:
    @PhysicistDave
    Actually, the whole business model in the academic world is highly dehumanizing: basically, a Ponzi scheme with human beings as the tokens.

    To be a senior professor, you have to churn out multiple doctoral students, far, far more than the one that would suffice to replace you when you finally retire decades hence.

    So, the young, newly minted Ph.D.s have to engage in a fratricidal struggle to gain tenure. "Publish or perish" -- except truly important contributions to human knowledge are few, far between, and unpredictable. So, you learn to fake it.

    And, you probably still lose to some lucky guy who fakes it a little bit better than the rest of you.

    I'm sure there are lots of biological analogies -- like the sharks that eat their sibs while still inside the mother.

    For anyone who is wondering, no, I got out right after getting my Ph.D. But, I watched the process in fascination when I was a doctoral student and have continued to watch in horrified fascination in the decades since.

    People who could be perfectly good engineers, accountants, or dental assistants waste their lives on this.

    Something is very, very wrong in America.

    And almost no one talks openly about it.

    For anyone who is wondering, no, I got out right after getting my Ph.D. But, I watched the process in fascination when I was a doctoral student and have continued to watch in horrified fascination in the decades since.

    People who could be perfectly good engineers, accountants, or dental assistants waste their lives on this.

    I got my MS 20+ years ago and bailed at that point for all the reasons you note. I tell people the most important thing I learned in grad school was I didn’t want a PhD. You really don’t see the inside of this as an undergrad.

    I’ve been appalled since then by all the pious proclamations by academe on every thing from global warming to sexual morality knowing what an abominably retrograde and exploitative institution it is.

    There is no difference, and I mean none, between Harvey Weinstein exploiting wannabe actresses and your average professor exploiting grad students. And I mean sexually as well. Wouldn’t surprise me if a #MeToo reckoning now sweeping the liberal bastions of entertainment and media engulfs the academy?

    Liberal, atheistic, hedonistic, unattractive – almost all male professors are trolly-looking guys, another reason to avoid the profession – guys in positions of gatekeeping authority over young, very young, aspirational women?

    What could possibly go wrong?

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    Dear Penthouse Letters,

    After getting laid off from Encorpera at the age of 50 took a grad class in biomedical imaging to beef up my skills and maybe get away from defense work. They had an evening seminar at the biomedical sciences building. As I was exiting out the back door that night crossed paths with an attractive young woman who was effusively cheerful in her greeting me, which I thought very odd since nearly all women ignore me in a situation like that. Later I realized she thought I must be a professor who could be gamed for possible help in her career aspirations towards Grey’s Anatomy self-actualization.

    During that same period I took Swimming 101 which had quite a few young nubiles. Had a good time frolicking in the pool with them I tell you what. Alumni status has its perks.
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  50. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Tim Howells
    I'm such an idiot! I actually clicked on the "13 stunning photos" link thinking they actually had photographic evidence of something.

    I’m such an idiot! I actually clicked on the …

    We’ve all been there but most of us won’t admit it to others. I think you could blame it on exhaustion … and what if there had been amazing photos?

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  51. fish says:
    @Yak-15
    I find it hilarious that the academy basically mirrors the worst aspects of exploitive capitalism. Debt serfdom, imprisonment in drudgery work, lack of promotion, inability to get long term benefits, stiff competition, unfair hierarchy where most of the money goes to the top while the rest live on unliveable wages, etc.

    The fact this woman has a tenure track professorship is an amazing opportunity. She should be counting her blessings, overusing the campus recreation facilities and publishing anything that crosses her mind.

    I was excited to formally join the academy. I naïvely assumed the bubble of academe would insulate me from, well, everything. I raced toward my Ph.D. in search of social protection, professional stability and financial freedom.

    Looks like she was on the cusp of getting everything she had hoped for…..

    God I hope somebody outs her!

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    Looks like she was on the cusp of getting everything she had hoped for…..
     
    Looks like she's already gotten more than she would have in a fairer world.

    More based people understand that life has a lot of receding horizons: the world holds out the promise of supreme happiness, but it mostly ends up being the carrot on the end of a stick.

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  52. fish says:
    @njguy73
    This scene is all anyone needs:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjzC1Dgh17A

    Young Ackroyd looks just like my brother Paulie!

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  53. @Brabantian
    Curious catalogue in the 'Alt-Right' 'Renegade Tribune', article by Roger Mace
    http://www.renegadetribune.com/state-alt-right/
    giving 14 Jewish or Jewish-linked "e-celeb personalities, 'leaders' of the Alternative Right aka Zionist Right", the author Roger Mace commenting -


    No wonder Jewish journalists can’t get enough of this 'movement'!

    Mike Cernovich: Twice admitted to Jewish ancestry, never criticizing Jews

    Mike 'Enoch' Peinovich: Married a Jewess, used to be pro-Israel on his website 'TRS - The Right Stuff'

    Ramsey 'RamZ' Paul: Admits to Jewish ancestry, behaves like an FBI informant, close friends with Jewish journalists, joking about paedophilia

    Milo Yiannopoulos: Jewish, homosexual

    Stefan Molyneux: Jewish, has an obsession with pitting children against their parents

    Andrew 'weev' Auernheimer: Jewish

    Curtis Yavin: Jewish, Zionist supremacist, associated with Peter Thiel

    Richard Spencer: Supports Zionism, rumours about Jewish ancestor

    Alex Jones: Married a Jewess, never criticizes Jews, pushes implausible conspiracy theories that point away from Jews and Deep State operations

    Jared Taylor: Supports Jewish supremacy, ardent Zionist

    Theodore Robert Beale aka 'Vox Day': Supports Israel and Zionism

    Jason Kessler: FBI associate, probably Jewish

    Pax Dickinson: Founder of 'Alt-Right' party with ultra-Zionist Jewish Peter Belau

    Matt Forney: Had Jewish girlfriend Ann Sterzinger

     

    Vox Day

    The Alt Right is opposed to the rule or domination of any native ethnic group by another, particularly in the sovereign homelands of the dominated peoples. The Alt Right is opposed to any non-native ethnic group obtaining excessive influence in any society through nepotism, tribalism, or any other means.

    He is talking about Jews.

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    But he's fine with Jews having their own nation and bothering eachother instead of you. Therefore, he's a Zionist.

    If the above article bothered to explain the difference between consistent nationalism and Zionistic particularism (nationalism for me but not for thee--it would make more sense. Instead, they're lumping things together.

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  54. ganderson says:
    @Steve Sailer
    "I'm a student at a small liberal arts college. I never believed any of these Letters to Penthouse, until one night ..."

    I always thought it was “I am a student at a large Midwestern university…”

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  55. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I just wonder how all these over privileged (throwing one of their chosen epithets back at them) would cope if, god forbid, they had to actually perform *REAL* work for a living? – here I’m talking about laboring in construction, mines, quarries, agriculture, lumbering etc etc

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  56. Zippy says:

    Cognitive behavioral therapy is basically systematizing what your grandmother told you, or what she should have told you. “Don’t make a mountain out of a molehill.” “Accentuate the positive.” Etc. It actually seems to work.

    The whole microaggressions thing is like cognitive behavioral therapy in reverse. “Make mountains out of molehills.” “Accentuate the negative.” “Always interpret what others say in the worst possible light.”

    Of course people who adopt that whole SJW/microaggression ideology are miserable. They’re doing cognitive behavioral therapy structured to induce unhappiness.

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  57. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Art Deco
    Of course, the quality of most Ph.D.s has declined dramatically,


    Just north of 30,000 research doctorates are awarded in academic subjects each year. There would be another bloc in vocational subjects (engineering, public policy &c). No, you didn't read a sample of the dissertations and no you cannot have much critical engagement with more than a small fraction of the dissertations submitted.

    Of course, the quality of most Ph.D.s has declined dramatically,

    Just north of 30,000 research doctorates are awarded in academic subjects each year. There would be another bloc in vocational subjects (engineering, public policy &c). No, you didn’t read a sample of the dissertations and no you cannot have much critical engagement with more than a small fraction of the dissertations submitted.

    You’re right, Nico is full of it! The Egg-McWhopper I had this morning was made by a Ph.D. (Harvard, Sociology) and it was excellent!

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  58. Art Deco says:
    @Jack D
    The numbers alone tell the story. This is way more than the # that the economy needs. Even if all of these tens of thousands of dissertations were "high quality" (and they ain't), there are just too many of them. A lot of PhDs end up with no job in their field. Or else they become post-docs with no job security and THEN after being exploited a few more years, they still end up with no job.

    https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2014/12/08/number-phds-awarded-climbs-recipients-job-prospects-dropping

    People who tell you they have a handle on the quality of dissertations across a dozen different fields in 1948 and on quality today nearly all have one thing in common: they’re lying to themselves if they’re not lying to you.

    Across an array of professions, the ratio of practitioners to annual degree awards at this time is as follows:

    Architecture: 28 (master’s the denominator)
    Engineering: 16.5 (bachelor’s the denominator)
    Dentistry: 21
    Optometry: 24
    Pharmacy: 21 (PharmD)
    Medicine: 27.5 (M.D. and D.O)
    Physical Therapy: 20.5 (DPT)
    Veterinary medicine: 24
    Law: 17 (JD)
    Clergy: 3.5 (M. Div)
    Psychology: 24.5 (PhD. and PsyD. – 23% of working psychologists are post-secondary teachers)
    Physics: 17 (PhD, 46% are post-secondary teachers)
    Chemistry: 37 (PhD, 19% are post-secondary teachers)
    Sociology: 22.5 (PhD, incl urban studies; 84% are post-secondary teachers)
    Economics: 28.5 (PhD, 40% are postsecondary teachers)
    Anthropology: 20.5 (PhD, 47% are postsecondary teachers)
    History: 25 (PhD, 88% are postsecondary teachers)
    Philosophy / Comparative Religion: 30.5 (PhD, all postsecondary teachers)
    English: 48 (PhD, all are postsecondary teachers)

    Caveats: postsecondary teachers tend to work about 70% time on average and about 1/4 work for community colleges, for which a research degree might be somewhat de trop (though very common). The other is that the denominator is the number awarded in 2015, not the mean number awarded since 1982 or thereabouts, which would be more valid.

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    The other is that the denominator is the number awarded in 2015, not the mean number awarded since 1982 or thereabouts, which would be more valid.
     
    This is what is crucial. If you assume that the average career is say 35 years then you need to replace roughly 1/35th of the practitioners each year. Maybe a few points more for population growth, PhDs who return to their native countries, etc. - call it 1/28th. So you should multiply the denominators by roughly 28, invert and any profession with a ratio of more than unity is probably overproducing. For example in physics and law, the ratio is 28/17 so you have 3 graduates for every 2 openings and a large % end up with no jobs in their field. Medicine is pretty balanced (because the AMA restricts med school enrollment) so you don't hear about a lot of doctors doing non-doctor work.
    , @guest
    Nobody's an expert in every field, and only a certain few have wide knowledge of dissertation quality in even one field. But we aren't limited to people who claim knowledge of all fields at once. We can listen to one guy who knows physics has gone to the dogs, and another who knows English is in the crapper, and a third who swears education is down the drain.

    But that would be Noticing patterns, and for some reason you're dedicated to obtuseness on the topic.

    , @Taco

    People who tell you they have a handle on the quality of dissertations across a dozen different fields in 1948 and on quality today nearly all have one thing in common: they’re lying to themselves if they’re not lying to you.

    Across an array of professions, the ratio of practitioners to annual degree awards at this time is as follows:

    [etc]
     

    At least for law (btw, no dissertation is required for a JD) this is very misleading. I don't care what the ratio of practioners to annual graduates to professors is; the number of law graduates every year is substantially higher than the number of legal jobs that become available every year.

    Honestly, why is the ratio of practitioners to graduates important in any way? If AI takes off all of a sudden, we would expect the ratio of "robotics" practitioners to "robotics" graduates to be, at least initially, severely out of whack (perhaps something like 1-to-100 until supply caught up with demand). Similarly, an over saturated field like law consistently has too many graduates, despite a large number of practitioners.

    I don't even know if your other premises are wrong, but your arguments are completely orthogonal to the point.

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  59. Mr. Anon says:
    @Art Deco
    Of course, the quality of most Ph.D.s has declined dramatically,


    Just north of 30,000 research doctorates are awarded in academic subjects each year. There would be another bloc in vocational subjects (engineering, public policy &c). No, you didn't read a sample of the dissertations and no you cannot have much critical engagement with more than a small fraction of the dissertations submitted.

    Neither did you, butthead. And yet you still manage to have an opinion.

    You have an (ill-informed) opinion on everything, you prating nitwit. We don’t care about your opinions. Go back to your own website, and have an extended conversation with your only true audience – yourself.

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    and have an extended conversation with your only true audience – yourself.

    You post responses to me, nearly all of them contentless, roughly 20x a month.
    , @anonymous
    Mr. Deco is a pseudo-pedantic asshole but you’ve got to admit that a paragraph like this …

    Caveats: postsecondary teachers tend to work about 70% time on average and about 1/4 work for community colleges, for which a research degree might be somewhat de trop (though very common). The other is that the denominator is the number awarded in 2015, not the mean number awarded since 1982 or thereabouts, which would be more valid.
     
    … is a thing of beauty.
    , @anon
    Jack D. & Art Deco sometimes shine each others turds. Sad.
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  60. I’ve been wondering about the finances of this IHE outfit. Do they get by on ads, or do they have a sugar daddy? I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if some SJW billionaire were behind the whole thing.

    I was banned from Inside Higher Education about a month ago for posting iSteve-ish comments that didn’t fit in with the various Narratives. For example, “academic success” in IHE articles typically means completing a degree, even if not much was learned in the process. I pointed out that this view of higher education was very much like what happens at the end of The Wizard of Oz, with the Scarecrow getting his “honorary degree of Th. D…that’s Doctor of Thinkology.” They allowed a comment or two along those lines, but pretty soon nothing from me making similar points got through comment moderation. Likewise, comments on racial patterns in misbehavior by college athletes generally don’t get posted.

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  61. Luke Lea says:

    OT, but this is pretty funny, especially the looks on Tapper’s face: http://www.businessinsider.sg/cnn-interview-lavar-ball-reaction-to-trump-2017-11/?r=US&IR=T

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    LaVar is smegma squared.
    , @Chu
    wow. I'd be embarrassed if my child was stealing in another country and any administrative person, president or elected official, in the USA secures his release. No good deed goes unpunished today...
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  62. Mr. Anon says:
    @PhysicistDave
    Actually, the whole business model in the academic world is highly dehumanizing: basically, a Ponzi scheme with human beings as the tokens.

    To be a senior professor, you have to churn out multiple doctoral students, far, far more than the one that would suffice to replace you when you finally retire decades hence.

    So, the young, newly minted Ph.D.s have to engage in a fratricidal struggle to gain tenure. "Publish or perish" -- except truly important contributions to human knowledge are few, far between, and unpredictable. So, you learn to fake it.

    And, you probably still lose to some lucky guy who fakes it a little bit better than the rest of you.

    I'm sure there are lots of biological analogies -- like the sharks that eat their sibs while still inside the mother.

    For anyone who is wondering, no, I got out right after getting my Ph.D. But, I watched the process in fascination when I was a doctoral student and have continued to watch in horrified fascination in the decades since.

    People who could be perfectly good engineers, accountants, or dental assistants waste their lives on this.

    Something is very, very wrong in America.

    And almost no one talks openly about it.

    The situation at modern universities which you so accurately describe results in a lot of publications that really aren’t very important, or even very good.

    I have also been told by several people who interviewed for tenure-track positions that the primary metric they would be judged on was funding. Not students mentored or papers published, but on the cash value of research contracts they pulled in. One guy even said he was flat out told that he was expected to be a profit-center for the university – that in order to get tenure he would need to bring in enough outside funding to cover what the university spent on him. The universities of course tax those research grants in the form of administrative overhead.

    Universities nowadays have largely become rackets.

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  63. David says:
    @Luke Lea
    OT, but this is pretty funny, especially the looks on Tapper's face: http://www.businessinsider.sg/cnn-interview-lavar-ball-reaction-to-trump-2017-11/?r=US&IR=T

    LaVar is smegma squared.

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  64. @Anonym

    Readers, I will be honest with you: when I accepted my first tenure-track position,
     
    Try and work something WNish into a conversation with your superiors and see how fast you derail from your "tenure track".

    Try and work something WNish into a conversation with your superiors and see how fast you derail from your “tenure track”.

    Except that, like most Americans, this professor’s superiors are all hardline white nationalists. How else could advocating against white nationalism be so exhausting?

    This chick is one of the few academics brave enough to advocate a liberal viewpoint, although she must do so anonymously for fear of reprisal.

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    Brilliant, and also sad because many people really believe this. It's always 1952 for these people.
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  65. Charlie Rose has a sex drive?

    Who’da thunk it?

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    I remember seeing Charlie Rose out on a Friday night in an UES bar 30 years ago with a young babe wondering if he was gonna be too shitfaced to close the deal, as she was holding up much better than he.
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  66. Clyde says:

    A growing trend among among social justice jihadis, especially Women of Color, is exhaustion from all the emotional labor they perform enduring microaggressions on campus.

    My interpretation is they are showing off and trying to make themselves into martyrs. One black woman brings it up, then others roll over and copy because it looks like a good theme to tweet out on or otherwise distribute. Martyrs meaning that they are of pure heart, that it is unfair and insulting that are forced to endure micro-aggressions, having to explain themselves to the unwoke and so on.
    Its a form of one upsmanship. Who can virtue signal the loudest. As in lawdy “you don’t know the troubles I seen” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobody_Knows_the_Trouble_I%27ve_Seen Which came from the slavery era of forced labor. Blacks suffered back then while blacks like this complaining academic try to hitch a free ride on the genuine hard work and suffering of her ancestors. My verdict: Unlovely, sniveling fraud.

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  67. What about instructors who have so many Diversity and Microaggression workshops to attend they have barely any time to prep lessons or grade?

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  68. Svigor says:

    Leftists have long been prone to drama queenery and “the vapors,” so I’m not surprised they’ve decided to hang a lamp on the practice.

    “Too much, can’t go on. Must be laid on divan, feet propped up, slave intern gently fanning me, plying me with bon-bons. Les Deplorables have forced me to become the center of attention.”

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  69. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    “I led poorly attended workshops on “othering” in the classroom. I proposed noncomparative research on black student communities, but reviewers suggested white subjects were imperative to create valid data.”

    Well, yeah. White students have zero reason to care about this stuff and valid reason to be skeptical of it.

    “I am expected to exert power where it is not assumed.”

    Welcome to the real world where the people who actually run things have to work hard. Yes, being an alpha is hard work.

    “A short critical comment in faculty meeting requires brute force to momentarily pause my shaking hands as I stand to address fellow faculty.”

    A short critical comment is not that big a deal. How does she avoid having a nervous breakdown when her papers are reviewed for publication? Academics are supposed to be open to criticism to improve their ideas.

    “I joined the academy because I love to explore, teach and write. I expected to feel at home, but instead of like-minded peers I found antagonists. Instead of solidarity, I found cynicism.”

    Most college profs adopt a pose of real or assumed cynicism, and they’re often critical of each others’ ideas. They do this to get rid of a lot of intellectual nonsense and to keep it from taking root in the academic setting and in the minds of students. Teaching skepticism is part of creating a healthy intellect. Teaching skepticism is absolutely necessary for the creation of wisdom. No real intellectual says that living the life of the mind is supposed to make you comfortable and complacent. Wisdom is not the reinforcement of preconceived notions.

    In other words, nature intended the author to be a housewife raising her kids in a quiet, less stressful home setting, and not be an academic. It’s not a big deal to admit this, or to be ashamed of it. Somebody has to do it, and not everyone has the temperament to be a public intellectual, the same way not everyone has the temperament to be a concert pianist. Both require a great deal of tolerance for stress and lots of energy.

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  70. Ivy says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Sort of what I was thinking. Being fat can be tiring, particularly if you don't work out, which I'm guessing most SJWs don't.

    Complaining constantly is tiring too.

    Toe-standers. Those are obese people forced by circumstances outside their control to stand. Their only relief is to shift their weight from one foot to the other because they can’t manage to stand on both feet at the same time. Their feet, ankles, knees and hips can’t handle the weight.

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  71. Jack D says:
    @Art Deco
    People who tell you they have a handle on the quality of dissertations across a dozen different fields in 1948 and on quality today nearly all have one thing in common: they're lying to themselves if they're not lying to you.

    Across an array of professions, the ratio of practitioners to annual degree awards at this time is as follows:

    Architecture: 28 (master's the denominator)
    Engineering: 16.5 (bachelor's the denominator)
    Dentistry: 21
    Optometry: 24
    Pharmacy: 21 (PharmD)
    Medicine: 27.5 (M.D. and D.O)
    Physical Therapy: 20.5 (DPT)
    Veterinary medicine: 24
    Law: 17 (JD)
    Clergy: 3.5 (M. Div)
    Psychology: 24.5 (PhD. and PsyD. - 23% of working psychologists are post-secondary teachers)
    Physics: 17 (PhD, 46% are post-secondary teachers)
    Chemistry: 37 (PhD, 19% are post-secondary teachers)
    Sociology: 22.5 (PhD, incl urban studies; 84% are post-secondary teachers)
    Economics: 28.5 (PhD, 40% are postsecondary teachers)
    Anthropology: 20.5 (PhD, 47% are postsecondary teachers)
    History: 25 (PhD, 88% are postsecondary teachers)
    Philosophy / Comparative Religion: 30.5 (PhD, all postsecondary teachers)
    English: 48 (PhD, all are postsecondary teachers)

    Caveats: postsecondary teachers tend to work about 70% time on average and about 1/4 work for community colleges, for which a research degree might be somewhat de trop (though very common). The other is that the denominator is the number awarded in 2015, not the mean number awarded since 1982 or thereabouts, which would be more valid.

    The other is that the denominator is the number awarded in 2015, not the mean number awarded since 1982 or thereabouts, which would be more valid.

    This is what is crucial. If you assume that the average career is say 35 years then you need to replace roughly 1/35th of the practitioners each year. Maybe a few points more for population growth, PhDs who return to their native countries, etc. – call it 1/28th. So you should multiply the denominators by roughly 28, invert and any profession with a ratio of more than unity is probably overproducing. For example in physics and law, the ratio is 28/17 so you have 3 graduates for every 2 openings and a large % end up with no jobs in their field. Medicine is pretty balanced (because the AMA restricts med school enrollment) so you don’t hear about a lot of doctors doing non-doctor work.

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  72. This reminds of studies of Trust between different countries. In some countries, like Greece or Nigeria, you spend so much time and energy not trusting your fellow citizens that you can barely get anything done. Must be exhausting. Seeing racism and other isms everywhere would cause the same effect.

    Denmark, or Brigham Young University, don’t have these problems.

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  73. @Brabantian
    Curious catalogue in the 'Alt-Right' 'Renegade Tribune', article by Roger Mace
    http://www.renegadetribune.com/state-alt-right/
    giving 14 Jewish or Jewish-linked "e-celeb personalities, 'leaders' of the Alternative Right aka Zionist Right", the author Roger Mace commenting -


    No wonder Jewish journalists can’t get enough of this 'movement'!

    Mike Cernovich: Twice admitted to Jewish ancestry, never criticizing Jews

    Mike 'Enoch' Peinovich: Married a Jewess, used to be pro-Israel on his website 'TRS - The Right Stuff'

    Ramsey 'RamZ' Paul: Admits to Jewish ancestry, behaves like an FBI informant, close friends with Jewish journalists, joking about paedophilia

    Milo Yiannopoulos: Jewish, homosexual

    Stefan Molyneux: Jewish, has an obsession with pitting children against their parents

    Andrew 'weev' Auernheimer: Jewish

    Curtis Yavin: Jewish, Zionist supremacist, associated with Peter Thiel

    Richard Spencer: Supports Zionism, rumours about Jewish ancestor

    Alex Jones: Married a Jewess, never criticizes Jews, pushes implausible conspiracy theories that point away from Jews and Deep State operations

    Jared Taylor: Supports Jewish supremacy, ardent Zionist

    Theodore Robert Beale aka 'Vox Day': Supports Israel and Zionism

    Jason Kessler: FBI associate, probably Jewish

    Pax Dickinson: Founder of 'Alt-Right' party with ultra-Zionist Jewish Peter Belau

    Matt Forney: Had Jewish girlfriend Ann Sterzinger

     

    Goodness knows that I have my issues with influential Jews trying to destroy my people but supporting the right of Jews to have a Jewish state is absolutely consistent with most “Alt-right” people, at least according to my definition.

    Most alt-righters believe in ethnic nationalism as opposed to Bannon’s (and Steve’s) civic nationalism. We simply believe that races and ethnicities (peoples) should have the right to self-determination and that nation-states are better for all than multi-racial, multi-ethnic, multi-everything proposition nations.

    Israel is an embodiment of that ideal, as is Japan.

    Now, that doesn’t mean that I have to agree with everything that Israel (or Japan for that matter) does as a country, just that I think Jews should have their own country (or very autonomous enclaves within a country) as should Germans, as should the ethnic French as should European Americans if they so choose.

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  74. Jack D says:

    The natural corollary to this is that people who are required to do labor should be compensated for their efforts – it’s only fair. SJW’s, minorities, women – they should all be receiving a premium for all of the emotional labor they are doing – combat pay for fighting the good fight. A reward for the pain and suffering of having to listen to whitey’s microagressions without being able to backtalk 100% of the time if you want to keep your job. During the Kamala Harris Administration, this will be enacted into law. KKKombat Pay – #Me Too!

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  75. The failure to accomplish a task can be put down either to a lack of necessary intelligence for that task, or to personal shortcomings such as a lack of grit and self control. Remove one and you imply the other. The soft bigotry of high expectations.

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  76. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    People who want to be a college professor ought to give themselves a simple litmus test. 1st, did you participate in college bull sessions when you were a student, and 2nd, did you enjoy it? If you didn’t say yes to both, you should never become a professor.

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  77. Sam Sung says:

    You have to laugh at whatever tripe (Ebonics? Gollyology?) this woman gets paid for is considered part of “the academy”.

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  78. @Brabantian
    Curious catalogue in the 'Alt-Right' 'Renegade Tribune', article by Roger Mace
    http://www.renegadetribune.com/state-alt-right/
    giving 14 Jewish or Jewish-linked "e-celeb personalities, 'leaders' of the Alternative Right aka Zionist Right", the author Roger Mace commenting -


    No wonder Jewish journalists can’t get enough of this 'movement'!

    Mike Cernovich: Twice admitted to Jewish ancestry, never criticizing Jews

    Mike 'Enoch' Peinovich: Married a Jewess, used to be pro-Israel on his website 'TRS - The Right Stuff'

    Ramsey 'RamZ' Paul: Admits to Jewish ancestry, behaves like an FBI informant, close friends with Jewish journalists, joking about paedophilia

    Milo Yiannopoulos: Jewish, homosexual

    Stefan Molyneux: Jewish, has an obsession with pitting children against their parents

    Andrew 'weev' Auernheimer: Jewish

    Curtis Yavin: Jewish, Zionist supremacist, associated with Peter Thiel

    Richard Spencer: Supports Zionism, rumours about Jewish ancestor

    Alex Jones: Married a Jewess, never criticizes Jews, pushes implausible conspiracy theories that point away from Jews and Deep State operations

    Jared Taylor: Supports Jewish supremacy, ardent Zionist

    Theodore Robert Beale aka 'Vox Day': Supports Israel and Zionism

    Jason Kessler: FBI associate, probably Jewish

    Pax Dickinson: Founder of 'Alt-Right' party with ultra-Zionist Jewish Peter Belau

    Matt Forney: Had Jewish girlfriend Ann Sterzinger

     

    If Matt Forney is who I think he is, that list is BS because that dude never had a girlfriend.

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    You wouldn't think so. But I believe the Ann Sterzinger story. You ought to read Ann Sterzinger sometime, and see if you don't believe it after that.

    That whole relationship, which you can Google about if you want, sounds like outtakes from some weird "artistic" movie about miserable people working to make each other more miserable, but that is really just an experiment to gross out the audience. Like "Se7en" or Lars von Trier's "Antichrist" or something like that.
    , @Anon
    Matt Forney is a morbidly obese bald guy with a cheesy moustache and extremely pasty skin. A Roosh sycophant who wrote a book about picking up chicks in Asia.
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  79. @anonguy

    For anyone who is wondering, no, I got out right after getting my Ph.D. But, I watched the process in fascination when I was a doctoral student and have continued to watch in horrified fascination in the decades since.

    People who could be perfectly good engineers, accountants, or dental assistants waste their lives on this.
     

    I got my MS 20+ years ago and bailed at that point for all the reasons you note. I tell people the most important thing I learned in grad school was I didn't want a PhD. You really don't see the inside of this as an undergrad.

    I've been appalled since then by all the pious proclamations by academe on every thing from global warming to sexual morality knowing what an abominably retrograde and exploitative institution it is.

    There is no difference, and I mean none, between Harvey Weinstein exploiting wannabe actresses and your average professor exploiting grad students. And I mean sexually as well. Wouldn't surprise me if a #MeToo reckoning now sweeping the liberal bastions of entertainment and media engulfs the academy?

    Liberal, atheistic, hedonistic, unattractive - almost all male professors are trolly-looking guys, another reason to avoid the profession - guys in positions of gatekeeping authority over young, very young, aspirational women?

    What could possibly go wrong?

    Dear Penthouse Letters,

    After getting laid off from Encorpera at the age of 50 took a grad class in biomedical imaging to beef up my skills and maybe get away from defense work. They had an evening seminar at the biomedical sciences building. As I was exiting out the back door that night crossed paths with an attractive young woman who was effusively cheerful in her greeting me, which I thought very odd since nearly all women ignore me in a situation like that. Later I realized she thought I must be a professor who could be gamed for possible help in her career aspirations towards Grey’s Anatomy self-actualization.

    During that same period I took Swimming 101 which had quite a few young nubiles. Had a good time frolicking in the pool with them I tell you what. Alumni status has its perks.

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  80. Time to examine how many women have gotten into med or law school based on recommendations from profs they banged. Where I was an undergrad the Hindu biochem prof on the med school committee had a reputation for doling out recommendations to comely women.

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  81. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The whiner seems to desire acquiring tenure. They want to be guaranteed a nice income from which it’d be hard to get fired from. All these types who complain about being the victim of never-ending micro-aggressions are usually self-centered dummies who are in constant conflict with others. This person is basically just a high-priced welfare recipient.

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  82. Anon • Disclaimer says:

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  83. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    They should go back to their own nations. Why did they flee from their own kind?
    Why do they favor white nations and white-run institutions?
    They must be closet-white-supremacists.

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  84. @Brabantian
    Curious catalogue in the 'Alt-Right' 'Renegade Tribune', article by Roger Mace
    http://www.renegadetribune.com/state-alt-right/
    giving 14 Jewish or Jewish-linked "e-celeb personalities, 'leaders' of the Alternative Right aka Zionist Right", the author Roger Mace commenting -


    No wonder Jewish journalists can’t get enough of this 'movement'!

    Mike Cernovich: Twice admitted to Jewish ancestry, never criticizing Jews

    Mike 'Enoch' Peinovich: Married a Jewess, used to be pro-Israel on his website 'TRS - The Right Stuff'

    Ramsey 'RamZ' Paul: Admits to Jewish ancestry, behaves like an FBI informant, close friends with Jewish journalists, joking about paedophilia

    Milo Yiannopoulos: Jewish, homosexual

    Stefan Molyneux: Jewish, has an obsession with pitting children against their parents

    Andrew 'weev' Auernheimer: Jewish

    Curtis Yavin: Jewish, Zionist supremacist, associated with Peter Thiel

    Richard Spencer: Supports Zionism, rumours about Jewish ancestor

    Alex Jones: Married a Jewess, never criticizes Jews, pushes implausible conspiracy theories that point away from Jews and Deep State operations

    Jared Taylor: Supports Jewish supremacy, ardent Zionist

    Theodore Robert Beale aka 'Vox Day': Supports Israel and Zionism

    Jason Kessler: FBI associate, probably Jewish

    Pax Dickinson: Founder of 'Alt-Right' party with ultra-Zionist Jewish Peter Belau

    Matt Forney: Had Jewish girlfriend Ann Sterzinger

     

    Hey that’s great man but can you take it somewhere people regularly obsess about proving people are tangentially related to Jews?

    Maybe you and that guy from the other day who went on a 2,000 word rant about the similarities between Norse paganism and Zoroastrianism can have a long and private discussion about it?

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  85. NOTA says:
    @william munny
    I don't doubt that these people really are exhausted. If they truly believe this nonsense, they really are fighting racism and sexism everywhere they go, all day and every day. I don't have that kind of energy. I would just stay home. But when the actual hardships come, how are they going to be able to respond?

    Ideologies have consequences. This one is screwing over a lot of smart and ambitious women who have learned to interpret every thoughtless word and gesture by a coworker, supervisor, student, advisor, etc., as more evidence for a vast conspiracy against them. They would do a lot better to start with a default assumption that their colleagues are just thoughtless and their students clueless—it must be emotionally exhausting to believe the worldview that many SJW types believe.

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  86. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    How do feminists see THE GRADUATE?

    Mrs.Robinson seduces Benjamin but, feeling jilted later, tells Elaine that Ben raped her. Pure Vixtim stuff.

    Btw, more fun stuff.

    https://pagesix.com/2017/11/20/new-pics-show-al-franken-grabbing-arianna-huffingtons-breasts-and-butt/

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  87. @PhysicistDave
    Actually, the whole business model in the academic world is highly dehumanizing: basically, a Ponzi scheme with human beings as the tokens.

    To be a senior professor, you have to churn out multiple doctoral students, far, far more than the one that would suffice to replace you when you finally retire decades hence.

    So, the young, newly minted Ph.D.s have to engage in a fratricidal struggle to gain tenure. "Publish or perish" -- except truly important contributions to human knowledge are few, far between, and unpredictable. So, you learn to fake it.

    And, you probably still lose to some lucky guy who fakes it a little bit better than the rest of you.

    I'm sure there are lots of biological analogies -- like the sharks that eat their sibs while still inside the mother.

    For anyone who is wondering, no, I got out right after getting my Ph.D. But, I watched the process in fascination when I was a doctoral student and have continued to watch in horrified fascination in the decades since.

    People who could be perfectly good engineers, accountants, or dental assistants waste their lives on this.

    Something is very, very wrong in America.

    And almost no one talks openly about it.

    To be a senior professor, you have to churn out multiple doctoral students…
    So, the young, newly minted Ph.D.s have to engage in a fratricidal struggle to gain tenure.

    Come on Dave, it’s not as bad as that. The number of institutions that produce PhDs is way smaller than the number that need to hire them. In economics, which is the field I know, some fifty PhD programs supply the other 2000 colleges in the USA.

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    Come on Dave, it’s not as bad as that. The number of institutions that produce PhDs is way smaller than the number that need to hire them. In economics, which is the field I know, some fifty PhD programs supply the other 2000 colleges in the USA.
     
    Those other 1950 institutions are receiving losers, not winners, in the economics phd game. Sure, they got their degree, tenure, and are teaching indifferent undergrads, but the winners are the professors at phd granting instituitons. The others are just a little better than community colleges.
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  88. Tulip says:

    Oy vey! Stop kvetching! Think about what your ancestors went through just so you could get where you are.

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  90. Jonah says:

    OT – But of interest to the Sailersphere..

    I just tallied up wins and losses for NFL teams led by black quarterbacks this season. If the game was started by a black QB, I included it. So, for instance, I didn’t count it against DeShaun Watson that the Texans lost Game 1 with Tom Savage starting that game.

    All together, black QBs are 32-44 when they start this season. That’s not very good. Collectively, teams led by black QBs are playing like 6-10 or 7-9 also rans. Though to be fair, Deshone Kizer isn’t the only reason the Cleveland Browns stink and his 0-10 record is a major drag on these numbers.

    As Steve has noted, QB play is down across the league this season. It certainly is for this subset. Dak Prescott is fading badly lately without elite O-line play and a top RB. Cam Newton’s team is good but he’s been well off his top form with as many turnovers as touchdowns. Tyrod Taylor is getting drummed out of Buffalo. Jameis Winston doesn’t run much but he got hurt. He might get better but has so far failed to develop as hoped. Really the only top flight QB who is black is Russel Wilson, who remains excellent. DeShaun Watson was very exciting, but will he be when he comes back from a major leg injury? The rest of the black QBs are scrubs who wouldn’t be starting if the league had adequate QB play.

    Given Colin Kaepernick’s age and recent track record, it’s hard to imagine he’d be helping these numbers if he weren’t being (rightly) blackballed. He’d be taking the same Ls currently owned by Mitch Trubitsky or Brian Hoyer or the like.

    I would be curious to see which season was the best ever for black QBs. There seem to be more of them than their used to be, but this hardly a Golden Age of Black QBs. Only Russel Wilson ranks in the top 10 of many significant statistical categories. DeShaun Watson DID, but he got hurt (running) and his team will miss the playoffs. It’s hard to imagine the Texans are happy with that bargain.

    I don’t have hard data, but it sure seems like black QBs are less likely to be pocket passers, so they get hurt more often because they run more often. When they return from injury their mobility advantage is more limited, teams don’t have to put 8 in the box anymore, and their fortunes decline rapidly. So the peak of a black QBs career seems more likely to be in the first three seasons. Examples: RG3, Vick, etc

    If I was running an NFL front office I would be wary of drafting a scrambling QB, regardless of race. And when you consider the dearth of black QBs who don’t rely heavily on their legs in college… it’s frankly surprising that NFL front offices continue to gamble on athletic black guys who don’t read defenses very well.

    Maybe drafting 8-10 more of these guys than they should have over the past 5 years has hurt the league, as 2-3 white guys who got passed over would’ve matured and turned into passable starters. It’s not such a crazy thought. If one more black guy had been selected in Tom Brady’s draft he wouldn’t have been in the league. Part of the NFL’s current malaise is crappy offense. Too many black QBs might be part of that problem.

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  91. Forbes says:
    @Reg Cæsar
    Charlie Rose has a sex drive?

    Who'da thunk it?

    I remember seeing Charlie Rose out on a Friday night in an UES bar 30 years ago with a young babe wondering if he was gonna be too shitfaced to close the deal, as she was holding up much better than he.

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  92. Forbes says:
    @Anonym

    Readers, I will be honest with you: when I accepted my first tenure-track position,
     
    Try and work something WNish into a conversation with your superiors and see how fast you derail from your "tenure track".

    when I accepted my first tenure-track position

    How many tenure tracks has she been on…

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    How many tenure tracks has she been on…
     
    Getting more than one bite at that apple is itself a form of privilege that she has, and probably by virtue of her victim-status. From what I have heard, in technical fields at least, being denied tenure is a huge black-mark on your CV that makes it all but impossible to ever be considered for a tenure-track position again.
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  93. J1234 says:

    Many black academics aren’t trying to escape racism, they’re trying to be part of a monastic existence that allows only one mindset…one faith, albeit secular, with no opposition. Opposition equals oppression in this orderly existence. They want a world where their precepts are everyone else’s precepts, sort of ignoring (or being ignorant of) the old idea that universities should be places where precepts are challenged, not enforced.

    My liberal college professor spouse had a black diversity specialist guest lecture once a year on a regular basis, and it eventually got to be a painful experience for everyone involved (except the guest lecturer.) The presentations became nothing more than fiery, condemning sermons filled with lots of venom and very little thought – a call for disciples rather than curious students.

    My spouse’s field of study is largely apolitical, so the class was eventually able to transition away from this guest speaker, but the mentality remains in university settings. Too many blacks, whether they’re academics or garbage men, think of the world in terms of simplistic power structure models – if you don’t have omnipotence over others, they will gain omnipotence over you.

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    "Many black academics aren’t trying to escape racism, they’re trying to be part of a monastic existence that allows only one mindset…one faith, albeit secular, with no opposition. Opposition equals oppression in this orderly existence. They want a world where their precepts are everyone else’s precepts, sort of ignoring (or being ignorant of) the old idea that universities should be places where precepts are challenged, not enforced."

    In other words, they have real difficulty understanding abstract thought.
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  94. “Image my horror,” she said, “when I showed up expecting to get paid to play in my little bubble, but found playtime taxing!”

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  95. Chu says:
    @Luke Lea
    OT, but this is pretty funny, especially the looks on Tapper's face: http://www.businessinsider.sg/cnn-interview-lavar-ball-reaction-to-trump-2017-11/?r=US&IR=T

    wow. I’d be embarrassed if my child was stealing in another country and any administrative person, president or elected official, in the USA secures his release. No good deed goes unpunished today…

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  96. @Brabantian
    Curious catalogue in the 'Alt-Right' 'Renegade Tribune', article by Roger Mace
    http://www.renegadetribune.com/state-alt-right/
    giving 14 Jewish or Jewish-linked "e-celeb personalities, 'leaders' of the Alternative Right aka Zionist Right", the author Roger Mace commenting -


    No wonder Jewish journalists can’t get enough of this 'movement'!

    Mike Cernovich: Twice admitted to Jewish ancestry, never criticizing Jews

    Mike 'Enoch' Peinovich: Married a Jewess, used to be pro-Israel on his website 'TRS - The Right Stuff'

    Ramsey 'RamZ' Paul: Admits to Jewish ancestry, behaves like an FBI informant, close friends with Jewish journalists, joking about paedophilia

    Milo Yiannopoulos: Jewish, homosexual

    Stefan Molyneux: Jewish, has an obsession with pitting children against their parents

    Andrew 'weev' Auernheimer: Jewish

    Curtis Yavin: Jewish, Zionist supremacist, associated with Peter Thiel

    Richard Spencer: Supports Zionism, rumours about Jewish ancestor

    Alex Jones: Married a Jewess, never criticizes Jews, pushes implausible conspiracy theories that point away from Jews and Deep State operations

    Jared Taylor: Supports Jewish supremacy, ardent Zionist

    Theodore Robert Beale aka 'Vox Day': Supports Israel and Zionism

    Jason Kessler: FBI associate, probably Jewish

    Pax Dickinson: Founder of 'Alt-Right' party with ultra-Zionist Jewish Peter Belau

    Matt Forney: Had Jewish girlfriend Ann Sterzinger

     

    Probably the only thing more lame than being in the “alt right” is keeping track of who is or is not Jewish in the alt right.

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  97. @PhysicistDave
    Actually, the whole business model in the academic world is highly dehumanizing: basically, a Ponzi scheme with human beings as the tokens.

    To be a senior professor, you have to churn out multiple doctoral students, far, far more than the one that would suffice to replace you when you finally retire decades hence.

    So, the young, newly minted Ph.D.s have to engage in a fratricidal struggle to gain tenure. "Publish or perish" -- except truly important contributions to human knowledge are few, far between, and unpredictable. So, you learn to fake it.

    And, you probably still lose to some lucky guy who fakes it a little bit better than the rest of you.

    I'm sure there are lots of biological analogies -- like the sharks that eat their sibs while still inside the mother.

    For anyone who is wondering, no, I got out right after getting my Ph.D. But, I watched the process in fascination when I was a doctoral student and have continued to watch in horrified fascination in the decades since.

    People who could be perfectly good engineers, accountants, or dental assistants waste their lives on this.

    Something is very, very wrong in America.

    And almost no one talks openly about it.

    What field did you get your Ph.D. in and where?

    Earning a Ph.D. in a serious subject is a great honor and a great gift even if one is not employed in academia.

    There are unemployed Ph.D.’s who write papers and get them published in refereed journals. The term of art for these losers is “unaffiliated.”

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    I'm one of those "unaffiliated" losers (actually I set up a company and publish under that affiliation). It's been a while though; kinda hard to do any sort of serious research while trying to make the money that keeps the kids fed...

    But yeah, eff the academy. The last I heard was that there's something like a 17:1 ratio in the pipeline towards a real job. I don't remember if it's PhDs:postdoc positions or postdocs:faculty positions; either way, I only gave myself a 50-50 chance of being in that top 5%.

    I have an old friend from grad school who had what could be understated as a "spectacular" postdoc experience (think, 3 or 4 Nature publications) and even he was like "nah, I'll go chill out at a national lab."
    , @Sane Left Libertarian
    While The Academy (c) is an awful soul-sucking monster, the work itself is fantastic IMO. Research and teaching in the hard sciences is extremely exhilarating and rewarding (though not monetarily), and this is true on a day-to-day basis as well as over a career. It's an easy job to like.
    , @PhysicistDave
    Anonymouse wrote to me:

    What field did you get your Ph.D. in and where?
     
    Stanford, physics.

    I spent a summer working for a Nobel laureate (Burt Richter) and my thesis involved working with another Nobelist (Marty Perl).

    You'd think I'd be golden, eh?

    Well... I inadvertently stumbled upon serious scientific fraud by several faculty members: I did not try to or want to publicize the fraud, but, you could say, I just knew too much. They wanted me out of the field.

    Perhaps it also did not help my career prospects that I had written a column for the campus paper mildly critical of the state of Israel.

    Incidentally, Perl and Richter were, as far as I could see, good guys -- they were not the ones involved in the fraud. And, one of the more supportive people happened to be a fellow doctoral student who was an Israeli. He was actually okay with me criticizing the Israeli government (after all, Israelis do it, loudly, all the time). Some other people, not so much.

    Anonymouse also wrote:

    There are unemployed Ph.D.’s who write papers and get them published in refereed journals. The term of art for these losers is “unaffiliated.”
     
    For various reasons, I have been scanning a lot of physics papers recently: haven't seen a single one by, as you put it, one of these "unaffiliated" losers.

    The publication thing for the academic world has been for at least forty years just a way of racking up points for the old CV. My thesis advisor actually strongly advised me against reading the leading journals on the grounds that most of what they published was garbage -- I read them anyway but confirmed he was right.

    I could go on and on giving specific examples, but I do not suppose that would convince anyone who is currently engulfed in the morass.

    It really is sad: a lot of reasonably bright (though most are not quite as bright as they think they are!) people wasting their lives.

    (Incidentally, I am referring to the areas that are usually called "arts and sciences": math, natural sciences, humanities, social sciences, etc. I know less about professional schools such as business and engineering: since they have easy alternatives in the real world, perhaps things are not quite as bad there. Others can address those areas.)
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  98. @Steve Sailer
    "I'm a student at a small liberal arts college. I never believed any of these Letters to Penthouse, until one night ..."

    “My hands start to shake at the very memory!”

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  99. Jeff77450 says:
    @PhysicistDave
    Actually, the whole business model in the academic world is highly dehumanizing: basically, a Ponzi scheme with human beings as the tokens.

    To be a senior professor, you have to churn out multiple doctoral students, far, far more than the one that would suffice to replace you when you finally retire decades hence.

    So, the young, newly minted Ph.D.s have to engage in a fratricidal struggle to gain tenure. "Publish or perish" -- except truly important contributions to human knowledge are few, far between, and unpredictable. So, you learn to fake it.

    And, you probably still lose to some lucky guy who fakes it a little bit better than the rest of you.

    I'm sure there are lots of biological analogies -- like the sharks that eat their sibs while still inside the mother.

    For anyone who is wondering, no, I got out right after getting my Ph.D. But, I watched the process in fascination when I was a doctoral student and have continued to watch in horrified fascination in the decades since.

    People who could be perfectly good engineers, accountants, or dental assistants waste their lives on this.

    Something is very, very wrong in America.

    And almost no one talks openly about it.

    Very well said. Thank you.

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  100. Veracitor says:

    Is there any style of argument less persuasive than the self-regardent lamentation of a useless but (of course) resentful social justice warrior?

    I raced toward my Ph.D. in search of social protection, professional stability and financial freedom.

    No mention of interest in her supposed academic field, which (she straightforwardly asserts) consists of “mobilizing support” and “creating platforms” “for change” plus perhaps– if someone would just pay her specially for it– “noncomparative research on black student communities.”

    In other words, she wants world+dog to provide her with social respect and lots of money forever in return for frequent shrill denunciations, some useless advice, some “poorly attended” workshops, and the simple joy of knowing that she will enjoy hanging out with (only) black students on campus.

    Instead, I found early-career emotional, physical and mental exhaustion.

    Though she admits that she herself was “a burden to [her colleagues] struggling through their own fatigue.”

    She “would love to be awarded tenure when the time comes, and … would like to publish social justice research [sic] in peer-reviewed journals, but [realizes] now that may not be [her] path.”

    The rest of us would like to be awarded a Nobel prize in physiology, and to publish molecular-genetics research in peer-reviewed journals, but we realize that the latter usually precedes and justifies the former.

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  101. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    I've been arguing something similar for a long time, namely that if this generation believes everything that they've been told - and why wouldn't they since the Narrative is promoted and enforced by every institution in society - you would be pretty angry, especially if you were black or brown.

    Society tells them that white racism is very real and responsible for pretty much every ill in their lives and leads to hundreds if not thousands of deaths among blacks and browns. NAMs are being kept in poverty, killed and generally demeaned by white racism, yet nobody is doing much to stop it. Yes, there are some government programs and some AA, but those have been around since the 1960s and are no longer improving the situation.

    If you were black or brown and worked in a setting with mostly whites - and you believed the Narrative which you should because literally everyone tells you that it's correct - it really would be frustrating and exhausting. You'd also think that it was high time to start getting more serious about eradicating white racism since whites seem unwilling to give it up under the current system.

    And if those whites refuse to give up their racism - which can be proved by any disparities in achievement between whites and blacks/browns - well, we might just need to get rid of ultimate source of the problem: White people.

    In my opinion, black women and black men who survive their crazy years choose to accommodate reality as best they can. The more insightful of them (the so-called talented tenth) have a pretty good sense of what black people are capable of and what not. As they have no agency, they must accept the life they live.

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  102. anonguy says:
    @International Jew

    To be a senior professor, you have to churn out multiple doctoral students...
    So, the young, newly minted Ph.D.s have to engage in a fratricidal struggle to gain tenure.
     
    Come on Dave, it's not as bad as that. The number of institutions that produce PhDs is way smaller than the number that need to hire them. In economics, which is the field I know, some fifty PhD programs supply the other 2000 colleges in the USA.

    Come on Dave, it’s not as bad as that. The number of institutions that produce PhDs is way smaller than the number that need to hire them. In economics, which is the field I know, some fifty PhD programs supply the other 2000 colleges in the USA.

    Those other 1950 institutions are receiving losers, not winners, in the economics phd game. Sure, they got their degree, tenure, and are teaching indifferent undergrads, but the winners are the professors at phd granting instituitons. The others are just a little better than community colleges.

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    Those other 1950 institutions are receiving losers, not winners, in the economics phd game. Sure, they got their degree, tenure, and are teaching indifferent undergrads, but the winners are the professors at phd granting instituitons. The others are just a little better than community colleges.

    The median compensation for an economics professor is $96,000 a year plus benefits, exceeding that of chemistry teachers by about $20,000 a year. Good fringes and your pension is portable. Teaching institutions are to be found at all strata of selectivity and many faculty are perfectly happy to be there.

    As for community colleges, about 40% of their degrees are in academics and arts but in excess of 85% of such degrees are not in a discrete discipline. They are grab bags of courses for those attempting to prepare for a 4 year college. North of 90% of the undergraduate degrees in social science and history are baccalaureate degrees. Associate's degrees in economics are so unusual that the federal Education Department does not report the figures. They do report figures for associate's in history. These number 400-odd as against 30,000 baccalaureate degrees awarded in history each year.

    So, no, they aren't the equivalent of community colleges.
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  103. I suspect one of the big stress factors is that many of these academic SJW have no real marketable skills so if they have a fall from grace, it is a very hard landing. For many of these single aging unemployable neurotics, the downside is quite severe. So being cast out of the order is a fate worse than death.

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  104. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymouse
    What field did you get your Ph.D. in and where?

    Earning a Ph.D. in a serious subject is a great honor and a great gift even if one is not employed in academia.

    There are unemployed Ph.D.'s who write papers and get them published in refereed journals. The term of art for these losers is "unaffiliated."

    I’m one of those “unaffiliated” losers (actually I set up a company and publish under that affiliation). It’s been a while though; kinda hard to do any sort of serious research while trying to make the money that keeps the kids fed…

    But yeah, eff the academy. The last I heard was that there’s something like a 17:1 ratio in the pipeline towards a real job. I don’t remember if it’s PhDs:postdoc positions or postdocs:faculty positions; either way, I only gave myself a 50-50 chance of being in that top 5%.

    I have an old friend from grad school who had what could be understated as a “spectacular” postdoc experience (think, 3 or 4 Nature publications) and even he was like “nah, I’ll go chill out at a national lab.”

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    There are about 750,000 f/t post-secondary teachers. Retirement cohorts for such faculty might be roughly 21,000 a year. About 177,000 doctoral degrees are awarded every year, but these are usually professional degrees. Research doctorates would number about 55,000, so the ratio of the presumptive retirement cohort to new research doctorates is around 0.4. About 40% of the research doctorates are in mathematics, natural sciences, or engineering wherein there are ample opportunities for commercial and industrial employment.
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  105. Art Deco says:
    @Mr. Anon
    Neither did you, butthead. And yet you still manage to have an opinion.

    You have an (ill-informed) opinion on everything, you prating nitwit. We don't care about your opinions. Go back to your own website, and have an extended conversation with your only true audience - yourself.

    and have an extended conversation with your only true audience – yourself.

    You post responses to me, nearly all of them contentless, roughly 20x a month.

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    Stupid question: What’s the point in your responding to an allegedly pointless response?
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  106. anonymous • Disclaimer says: • Website
    @Mr. Anon
    Neither did you, butthead. And yet you still manage to have an opinion.

    You have an (ill-informed) opinion on everything, you prating nitwit. We don't care about your opinions. Go back to your own website, and have an extended conversation with your only true audience - yourself.

    Mr. Deco is a pseudo-pedantic asshole but you’ve got to admit that a paragraph like this …

    Caveats: postsecondary teachers tend to work about 70% time on average and about 1/4 work for community colleges, for which a research degree might be somewhat de trop (though very common). The other is that the denominator is the number awarded in 2015, not the mean number awarded since 1982 or thereabouts, which would be more valid.

    … is a thing of beauty.

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    pseudo-pedantic asshole

    But not confused enough to have come up with a modifier like 'pseudo-pedantic'.
    , @Anonymouse
    not only that but unintelligible to boot.
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  107. I think one of the most telling points made in this piece is that the author looked forward to being socially protected by the job. These people never seem to be able to protect themselves. While they play the “strength” card day in and day out, they are constantly looking for someone or something else to be strong for them.

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  108. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Art Deco
    and have an extended conversation with your only true audience – yourself.

    You post responses to me, nearly all of them contentless, roughly 20x a month.

    Stupid question: What’s the point in your responding to an allegedly pointless response?

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  109. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    This whole thing is ridiculous. Black academics live in a paradise of favoured hiring, higher salaries, and low requirements.

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  110. Art Deco says:
    @anonguy

    Come on Dave, it’s not as bad as that. The number of institutions that produce PhDs is way smaller than the number that need to hire them. In economics, which is the field I know, some fifty PhD programs supply the other 2000 colleges in the USA.
     
    Those other 1950 institutions are receiving losers, not winners, in the economics phd game. Sure, they got their degree, tenure, and are teaching indifferent undergrads, but the winners are the professors at phd granting instituitons. The others are just a little better than community colleges.

    Those other 1950 institutions are receiving losers, not winners, in the economics phd game. Sure, they got their degree, tenure, and are teaching indifferent undergrads, but the winners are the professors at phd granting instituitons. The others are just a little better than community colleges.

    The median compensation for an economics professor is $96,000 a year plus benefits, exceeding that of chemistry teachers by about $20,000 a year. Good fringes and your pension is portable. Teaching institutions are to be found at all strata of selectivity and many faculty are perfectly happy to be there.

    As for community colleges, about 40% of their degrees are in academics and arts but in excess of 85% of such degrees are not in a discrete discipline. They are grab bags of courses for those attempting to prepare for a 4 year college. North of 90% of the undergraduate degrees in social science and history are baccalaureate degrees. Associate’s degrees in economics are so unusual that the federal Education Department does not report the figures. They do report figures for associate’s in history. These number 400-odd as against 30,000 baccalaureate degrees awarded in history each year.

    So, no, they aren’t the equivalent of community colleges.

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    So, no, they aren’t the equivalent of community colleges
     
    He didn’t say they were equivalent. Why misquote the man? This is why people hate you.
    , @Anonymous
    "The median compensation for an economics professor is $96,000 a year plus benefits"

    I have very little doubt that this is nonsense. Utter BS. Provide a source. Show evidence that the class of persons identified as "economics professors" for purposes of this claim aligns closely with the class of persons that most Americans with college experience would identify as "economics professors". As Trump would say: "FAKE NEWS!"

    This is the sort of deep lie that encourages a wide swath of well-meaning American parents to hand over vast swaths of money to the corrupt institutions now masquerading as centers of learning. It is a deeply pernicious lie.
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  111. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr. Anon
    Neither did you, butthead. And yet you still manage to have an opinion.

    You have an (ill-informed) opinion on everything, you prating nitwit. We don't care about your opinions. Go back to your own website, and have an extended conversation with your only true audience - yourself.

    Jack D. & Art Deco sometimes shine each others turds. Sad.

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    Jack D is a smart guy, and usually has something interesting to say. I don't agree with him all the time, but is opinion is valuable.

    Art Deco's posts are worthless - the equivalent of graffitti.
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  112. author must be affirmative action–she’s as dumb as Michelle Obama

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  113. Art Deco says:
    @anonymous
    Mr. Deco is a pseudo-pedantic asshole but you’ve got to admit that a paragraph like this …

    Caveats: postsecondary teachers tend to work about 70% time on average and about 1/4 work for community colleges, for which a research degree might be somewhat de trop (though very common). The other is that the denominator is the number awarded in 2015, not the mean number awarded since 1982 or thereabouts, which would be more valid.
     
    … is a thing of beauty.

    pseudo-pedantic asshole

    But not confused enough to have come up with a modifier like ‘pseudo-pedantic’.

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    Don’t pedants actually know something? So a pseudo-pedant …
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  114. JMcG says:
    @Steve Sailer
    "I'm a student at a small liberal arts college. I never believed any of these Letters to Penthouse, until one night ..."

    I titled mine , “A Lesbian No More.”

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    I titled mine , “A Lesbian No More.”
     
    I can't help it. I'm a lesbian trapped in a body of a man!

    --Al Franken to Tom Davis in One More Saturday Night (1986)

    Which featured the song, I kid you not, "Upper Mississippi Shakedown":

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy0vPnFKR5A
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  115. Dahlia says:

    Steve’s last two posts and Lion’s post driven partly in reaction to our current moral panic (lots justified!), “Do we envy him, or feel sorry for him?” give me an excuse to post this:

    I am so happy that my husband is STEM. I mean seriously, it’s the greatest gift a man can give to his wife than to have virtually no female co-workers, lol! As far as the racial stuff, again STEM almost always means “no drama”. Except at the highest echelons, it’s just not a field that lends itself to existential angst over “SELF” and “identity”.
    On the other hand, there are nerd fights for dominance but…

    Commenter Wency writes:

    I work in finance in flyover country and have never had a young female colleague, let alone an attractive one, so I’ve never even been tempted to stare too long at a coworker.

    https://lionoftheblogosphere.wordpress.com/2017/11/21/do-we-envy-him-or-feel-sorry-for-him/#comments

    And this comes close to my husband’s work experience (except his co-worker wasn’t fat; she insisted on decorating the women’s bathroom with super heroes):

    I work in network engineering. I have worked with exactly one female colleague – and she was a fat lesbian. (and even then, every guy she worked with bent over backwards to cover for her many shortcomings) The only other women I have worked with have been my immediate supervisors (the only women I usually see in technical jobs that require occasional forays into data centers or wiring closets are those who were put directly into management).

    So my workplace has been mostly free of drama, but I also blame it for my marrying relatively late (late 30s) Not too many opportunities to meet anyone at work. My advice to young men would be: meet someone in college, marry then and start a family, and then go and work in male-only workplace.

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  116. Ryre says:

    I’ve noticed this “I’m tired” thing for awhile. I think it serves a rhetorical purpose. If someone says, “I’m angry that I do the dishes all the time and you never do them,” one can argue whether that person in fact does the dishes all the time. But “I’m tired from doing the dishes all the time”? That’s an assertion of fact and moreover an assertion of an inner state of the speaker. How does one respond–”No, you aren’t tired”?

    Furthermore, tiredness carries an air of inevitability. “I got so angry about racism that I burned a cop car”–maybe you should have controlled your temper. “I got so tired of the constant racism that I couldn’t take it any more and burned a cop car”–what could you do? You were just plum tuckered out.

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    "what could you do? You were just plumb tuckered out."

    For some reason that excuse never worked when my mom dragged me to church.

    There's something wrong with our culture if the response can't be. "Get out of bed, you lazy ass."
    , @Harry Baldwin
    It was funny to me during the recent campaign that Hillary often used the rhetorical formulation, "I am sick and tired of . . . " because she really did look sick and tired.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJxmpTMGhU0
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  117. Art Deco says:
    @anon
    I'm one of those "unaffiliated" losers (actually I set up a company and publish under that affiliation). It's been a while though; kinda hard to do any sort of serious research while trying to make the money that keeps the kids fed...

    But yeah, eff the academy. The last I heard was that there's something like a 17:1 ratio in the pipeline towards a real job. I don't remember if it's PhDs:postdoc positions or postdocs:faculty positions; either way, I only gave myself a 50-50 chance of being in that top 5%.

    I have an old friend from grad school who had what could be understated as a "spectacular" postdoc experience (think, 3 or 4 Nature publications) and even he was like "nah, I'll go chill out at a national lab."

    There are about 750,000 f/t post-secondary teachers. Retirement cohorts for such faculty might be roughly 21,000 a year. About 177,000 doctoral degrees are awarded every year, but these are usually professional degrees. Research doctorates would number about 55,000, so the ratio of the presumptive retirement cohort to new research doctorates is around 0.4. About 40% of the research doctorates are in mathematics, natural sciences, or engineering wherein there are ample opportunities for commercial and industrial employment.

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  118. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Art Deco
    Those other 1950 institutions are receiving losers, not winners, in the economics phd game. Sure, they got their degree, tenure, and are teaching indifferent undergrads, but the winners are the professors at phd granting instituitons. The others are just a little better than community colleges.

    The median compensation for an economics professor is $96,000 a year plus benefits, exceeding that of chemistry teachers by about $20,000 a year. Good fringes and your pension is portable. Teaching institutions are to be found at all strata of selectivity and many faculty are perfectly happy to be there.

    As for community colleges, about 40% of their degrees are in academics and arts but in excess of 85% of such degrees are not in a discrete discipline. They are grab bags of courses for those attempting to prepare for a 4 year college. North of 90% of the undergraduate degrees in social science and history are baccalaureate degrees. Associate's degrees in economics are so unusual that the federal Education Department does not report the figures. They do report figures for associate's in history. These number 400-odd as against 30,000 baccalaureate degrees awarded in history each year.

    So, no, they aren't the equivalent of community colleges.

    So, no, they aren’t the equivalent of community colleges

    He didn’t say they were equivalent. Why misquote the man? This is why people hate you.

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    You're fussing over the difference between "The others are just a little better than community colleges." and 'the equivalent of community colleges'. One of the other posters who fancies some variant on 'anonymous' tells me I'm a 'pedant' or 'pseudo-pedant' or somethingorother.
    , @Mr. Anon
    Not true. There are lots of reasons why people hate him.
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  119. Rod1963 says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country
    I've been arguing something similar for a long time, namely that if this generation believes everything that they've been told - and why wouldn't they since the Narrative is promoted and enforced by every institution in society - you would be pretty angry, especially if you were black or brown.

    Society tells them that white racism is very real and responsible for pretty much every ill in their lives and leads to hundreds if not thousands of deaths among blacks and browns. NAMs are being kept in poverty, killed and generally demeaned by white racism, yet nobody is doing much to stop it. Yes, there are some government programs and some AA, but those have been around since the 1960s and are no longer improving the situation.

    If you were black or brown and worked in a setting with mostly whites - and you believed the Narrative which you should because literally everyone tells you that it's correct - it really would be frustrating and exhausting. You'd also think that it was high time to start getting more serious about eradicating white racism since whites seem unwilling to give it up under the current system.

    And if those whites refuse to give up their racism - which can be proved by any disparities in achievement between whites and blacks/browns - well, we might just need to get rid of ultimate source of the problem: White people.

    And if those whites refuse to give up their racism – which can be proved by any disparities in achievement between whites and blacks/browns – well, we might just need to get rid of ultimate source of the problem: White people.

    And that’s coming down the road. Because you know damn well they aren’t going to be content with just hating whitey. Hell they’ll want him dead and buried.

    What do you think the GOP was doing for the last 25 years embracing open borders and globalization along destroying the industrial sector that provided jobs for most lower class whites?

    Hell you could see with their embrace of illegals while giving whitey the FOAD routine.

    Look the GOP has bought into the same crap that the Left has in regards to race. The GOP is always going on about how color blind they are, etc.

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    Yep. The Dems and the GOP are simply different sects of the same religion - a religion to which I don't belong.

    They're like two football coaches who have very different game plans but who adamently believe that men and women are equally strong and aggressive and, therefore, both require that the team be half men and women at every position. While I might believe that one coach has the better plan, it obviously doesn't matter because their fundamental belief in the physical equality of men and women will ensure defeat regardless of whom the coach may be.

    Naturally, the continued failure of the team will lead to endless debate on why Coach Blue should replace Coach Red or vice versa.

    That's what I see when I watch people debate politics.

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  120. My kids have been informed by their high school that saying “You can succeed if you work hard enough” is racist. Apparently some people can’t succeed no matter how hard they work. Is it because they have lower IQ or did they just not work hard enough? Neither, it’s all racism.

    The root of all the blacks’ malcontent on college campuses is Affirmative Action, which hurts much more than help them due to academic mismatch. Blacks and hispanics who are admitted to schools where their test scores put them in the bottom 25% are in over their heads. Not surprisingly all they can major in is ethnic studies, which also gives the colleges excuses to hire blacks and hispanics. It’s all they’re qualified to teach, and learn. Forget STEM, you know they can’t hack it it, browns and blacks just can’t count, but at elite schools even History or English is too much work or too much stress for their muddled brains.

    The DOJ is now investigating Harvard’s admission practices for alleged discrimination against Asian-Americans. I think their time would be better spent by looking into whether AA is helping or hurting blacks. The book “Mismatch” by Sander-Taylor lays out conclusive evidence supporting what common sense has been telling us for years. But then if liberals have any common sense, they wouldn’t be liberals.

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    How about "You can succeed if you play vidya games"?

    Is that nonracist?
    , @stillCARealist
    I said something similar to a black student in 1988 ("work hard enough...") and she replied that that was a "total myth".

    Thinking on it now, I agree with her. Not because of racism, but because to achieve your dreams requires lots of factors outside your control to fall into place. In fact, racism might be part of it, but you can't control that either. I think it's best to have reasonable expectations for your plans and be ready to be overjoyed if the best happens. Her approach was to expect to be disappointed and to have an explanation at hand: white racism.
    , @Krastos the Gluemaker
    The evidence actually overwhelming suggests that to the extent it matters mismatch is mainly caused by sensitivity/specificity errors on academic metrics currently used by elite universities themselves. It's literally classic regression to the mean.

    In other words, the problem is that the cutoff thresholds themselves are affected by too much noise and random chance and it gets worse for lower performing groups like blacks, because the ratio of individuals truly over the threshold to not is lower.

    There are plenty of blacks with top-notch HS GPAs (grade inflation) or even decent test score metrics, like ACT scores, but there's always been a lot of bias or random chance going into those. Then of course non-quantitative factors like recommendation letters have horrible predictive validity. So even a black student accepted with high GPA/test scores/etc can be mismatched; that might even be the predominant experience at elite schools, more than athletes or other special cases who at least know their own situation. This leaves less blame on the school/legislature/etc than most think.

    Few understand or accept this thesis because it challenges other unjustified assumptions they have and their bones to pick with political rivals. Remember that shifting to better quality, objective academic metrics (like raw scores on broader exams from say AP subjects) which would ameliorate the above effects for all races and genders would also be a massive hit to other privileged groups and classes. It's not just the blacks, there would be a huge loss for "athletes" and the like in elite schools compared to the "nerds."

    To a large extent the annoying war for/against affirmative action is insane because it's just a smokescreen for not fixing the above issue, which, while it might not be a Pareto improvement, it can at least be said it would create massive economic gains and other popularly desirable results for the country.
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  121. Kevin C. says:
    @27 year old

    But when the actual hardships come, how are they going to be able to respond?
     
    When the American Troubles (tm) start Any Day Real Soon Now (tm) here's what they're going to do:

    1. Contact their IRL network of people who are similarly aggrieved and have already accepted violence as legitimate.

    2. Settle scores against Whites, who don't have an IRL network and who haven't accepted violence as legitimate.

    1. Contact their IRL network of people who are similarly aggrieved and have already accepted violence as legitimate.

    2. Settle scores against Whites, who don’t have an IRL network and who haven’t accepted violence as legitimate.

    Isn’t this pretty much the same point David Hines has been making?

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  122. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Art Deco
    pseudo-pedantic asshole

    But not confused enough to have come up with a modifier like 'pseudo-pedantic'.

    Don’t pedants actually know something? So a pseudo-pedant …

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    In that case, you'd be better served by calling him a would-be pedant, or pedant-manque.
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  123. The black female professor who wrote the article in question teaches a class on racism at her university. One would think she’d welcome all the racism she encounters. If there were no racism, wouldn’t she be out of a job? In fact, if there were no racism, 90% of blacks would be unemployed, since there’d be no need for affirmative action. Now every college and every medium to large company has to have a Dean or VP of Diversity and Inclusion, supported by a whole department of diversity staff. Someone has to keep those Ethnic Studies majors from Harvard employed. Racism is now an industry. It’s the only way blacks get to be VP or Dean.

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    if there were no racism, 90% of blacks would be unemployed, since there’d be no need for affirmative action.

    There has been a 7-digit (now 8-digit) population of employed blacks in this country for a couple of centuries now. That's not because of 'affirmative action'.

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  124. e says:

    Some justice, perhaps? The MAGA hat thief of UC Riverside might be in some trouble:

    http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/39207/

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  125. Tim says:
    @Clyde
    It would be interesting to know what her field is and what she is teaching. Of course we can eliminate anything STEM or close to it.

    “It would be interesting to know what her field is and what she is teaching. Of course we can eliminate anything STEM or close to it.”

    This is exactly what I was thinking.

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  126. OT:

    In a just world, Gone Girl would have ended with Ben Affleck on the electric chair.

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    Fortunately, she has recently clarified that to point out that she only means that about white men.

    https://twitter.com/primalpoly/status/933086217691914241
    , @ic1000
    I wonder what makes Miss Lindin portray her lack of concern about innocent man losing their jobs over false sexual harassment/assault allegations as unpopular? Seems like Current Year received wisdom to me.

    Perhaps she's just being coy.
    , @Whiskey
    There is no end of ways in which most White middle and upper class women are the eternal enemy of the 90% of White men not alpha. Or ... hate hate hate them.
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  127. Art Deco says:
    @anon

    So, no, they aren’t the equivalent of community colleges
     
    He didn’t say they were equivalent. Why misquote the man? This is why people hate you.

    You’re fussing over the difference between “The others are just a little better than community colleges.” and ‘the equivalent of community colleges’. One of the other posters who fancies some variant on ‘anonymous’ tells me I’m a ‘pedant’ or ‘pseudo-pedant’ or somethingorother.

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    Guest, an actual pedant, says it should be would-be pedant or pédant manque , so what do I know?

    P.S. To anon’s point, you still didn’t quote him even though you put it in quotes. Are you incapable of arguing honestly?
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  128. Art Deco says:
    @Another Realist
    The black female professor who wrote the article in question teaches a class on racism at her university. One would think she'd welcome all the racism she encounters. If there were no racism, wouldn't she be out of a job? In fact, if there were no racism, 90% of blacks would be unemployed, since there'd be no need for affirmative action. Now every college and every medium to large company has to have a Dean or VP of Diversity and Inclusion, supported by a whole department of diversity staff. Someone has to keep those Ethnic Studies majors from Harvard employed. Racism is now an industry. It's the only way blacks get to be VP or Dean.

    if there were no racism, 90% of blacks would be unemployed, since there’d be no need for affirmative action.

    There has been a 7-digit (now 8-digit) population of employed blacks in this country for a couple of centuries now. That’s not because of ‘affirmative action’.

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    That's true but in the past they were employed doing useful things commensurate with their talents such as cooking and cleaning rather than as professor of "race studies" and other phony occupations.
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  129. guest says:

    The way I was raised, people don’t assume that just because you’re exhausted you’ve earned the sleep of the just. They’re much more likely to take your tiredness as an expression of being lazy.

    Indeed, in my experience lazy people are often tired. Which may sound paradoxical, but isn’t for a number of reasons.

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  130. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @27 year old
    If Matt Forney is who I think he is, that list is BS because that dude never had a girlfriend.

    You wouldn’t think so. But I believe the Ann Sterzinger story. You ought to read Ann Sterzinger sometime, and see if you don’t believe it after that.

    That whole relationship, which you can Google about if you want, sounds like outtakes from some weird “artistic” movie about miserable people working to make each other more miserable, but that is really just an experiment to gross out the audience. Like “Se7en” or Lars von Trier’s “Antichrist” or something like that.

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    Wow. Thanks for sending me down a really depressing rabbit hole.
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  131. guest says:
    @william munny
    I don't doubt that these people really are exhausted. If they truly believe this nonsense, they really are fighting racism and sexism everywhere they go, all day and every day. I don't have that kind of energy. I would just stay home. But when the actual hardships come, how are they going to be able to respond?

    Yeah, if I were to set myself the task of punching ghosts, I might end up flailing my arms at empty air all day. Because they could be anywhere, really. That’d be tiring.

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  132. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Seth Largo
    OT:

    https://twitter.com/EmilyLindin/status/933073784822579200

    In a just world, Gone Girl would have ended with Ben Affleck on the electric chair.

    Fortunately, she has recently clarified that to point out that she only means that about white men.

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  133. guest says:
    @PhysicistDave
    Actually, the whole business model in the academic world is highly dehumanizing: basically, a Ponzi scheme with human beings as the tokens.

    To be a senior professor, you have to churn out multiple doctoral students, far, far more than the one that would suffice to replace you when you finally retire decades hence.

    So, the young, newly minted Ph.D.s have to engage in a fratricidal struggle to gain tenure. "Publish or perish" -- except truly important contributions to human knowledge are few, far between, and unpredictable. So, you learn to fake it.

    And, you probably still lose to some lucky guy who fakes it a little bit better than the rest of you.

    I'm sure there are lots of biological analogies -- like the sharks that eat their sibs while still inside the mother.

    For anyone who is wondering, no, I got out right after getting my Ph.D. But, I watched the process in fascination when I was a doctoral student and have continued to watch in horrified fascination in the decades since.

    People who could be perfectly good engineers, accountants, or dental assistants waste their lives on this.

    Something is very, very wrong in America.

    And almost no one talks openly about it.

    I don’t want to call it a “business model.” Because it’s not a business-proper, though it is a swindle, scheme, fraud, racket, rip-off, shakedown, whatever you want to call it.

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  134. @27 year old

    But when the actual hardships come, how are they going to be able to respond?
     
    When the American Troubles (tm) start Any Day Real Soon Now (tm) here's what they're going to do:

    1. Contact their IRL network of people who are similarly aggrieved and have already accepted violence as legitimate.

    2. Settle scores against Whites, who don't have an IRL network and who haven't accepted violence as legitimate.

    1. Contact their IRL network of people

    Do you have a URL for IRL?

    I lent out my copy of Human Textual Response.

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  135. CCZ says:

    Five SJJs found the energy to block the LA Route 101 Freeway this morning with a “Trump-Pence Regime Must Go” banner. Jump to 4:00 to see CHIP (should be nominated Officer of the Month) single-handedly tear away their banner and start arresting them, before back up arrives. At 4:30 howling Latina narrator describes how “CHIP pig” tore away the banner and “dropped a protester” and later she wails about how he is ripping their peaceful banner and all of the fascists driving to work instead of siding with humanity. MAGA!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIF2XERcq_A

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  136. guest says:
    @Foreign Expert
    University teaching is a bad career choice. There are hundreds of qualified PhDs and not so many 18-year olds. The universities know it and know that anyone can be replaced in a minute.

    “not so many 18-year olds”

    Which might explain why people are pushing for college to turn into high school, with universal enrollment. Paid for by whomever. Every human being who reaches the age of 18 gets to go, unless they have a hole in their head or produce more than a bucket’s-worth of drool per hour.

    Which may compound the problem, because that’s all the more people wasting their time in academia, eventually competing for jobs.

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  137. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @27 year old
    If Matt Forney is who I think he is, that list is BS because that dude never had a girlfriend.

    Matt Forney is a morbidly obese bald guy with a cheesy moustache and extremely pasty skin. A Roosh sycophant who wrote a book about picking up chicks in Asia.

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  138. @Rod1963

    And if those whites refuse to give up their racism – which can be proved by any disparities in achievement between whites and blacks/browns – well, we might just need to get rid of ultimate source of the problem: White people.
     
    And that's coming down the road. Because you know damn well they aren't going to be content with just hating whitey. Hell they'll want him dead and buried.

    What do you think the GOP was doing for the last 25 years embracing open borders and globalization along destroying the industrial sector that provided jobs for most lower class whites?

    Hell you could see with their embrace of illegals while giving whitey the FOAD routine.

    Look the GOP has bought into the same crap that the Left has in regards to race. The GOP is always going on about how color blind they are, etc.

    Yep. The Dems and the GOP are simply different sects of the same religion – a religion to which I don’t belong.

    They’re like two football coaches who have very different game plans but who adamently believe that men and women are equally strong and aggressive and, therefore, both require that the team be half men and women at every position. While I might believe that one coach has the better plan, it obviously doesn’t matter because their fundamental belief in the physical equality of men and women will ensure defeat regardless of whom the coach may be.

    Naturally, the continued failure of the team will lead to endless debate on why Coach Blue should replace Coach Red or vice versa.

    That’s what I see when I watch people debate politics.

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    "Now, that doesn’t mean that I have to agree with everything that Israel (or Japan for that matter) does as a country, just that I think Jews should have their own country (or very autonomous enclaves within a country) as should Germans, as should the ethnic French as should European Americans if they so choose."

    How many white Americans refer to themselves as "European Americans"?

    How many white Americans agree with you that European-Americans ought to have their own country?

    Get back to us with this hard data and then we can begin a discussion in earnest.

    "Goodness knows that I have my issues with influential Jews trying to destroy my people..."

    Again, who is "your people"? Is it white people? European American peoples? See, I fit both descriptions. I am white and trace my ancestry to Germany, Poland, and the Netherlands. So, technically, I am "your people". If I am not "your people", why not?
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  139. bomag says:
    @fish

    I was excited to formally join the academy. I naïvely assumed the bubble of academe would insulate me from, well, everything. I raced toward my Ph.D. in search of social protection, professional stability and financial freedom.
     
    Looks like she was on the cusp of getting everything she had hoped for…..


    God I hope somebody outs her!

    Looks like she was on the cusp of getting everything she had hoped for…..

    Looks like she’s already gotten more than she would have in a fairer world.

    More based people understand that life has a lot of receding horizons: the world holds out the promise of supreme happiness, but it mostly ends up being the carrot on the end of a stick.

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  140. Jack D says:
    @Art Deco
    if there were no racism, 90% of blacks would be unemployed, since there’d be no need for affirmative action.

    There has been a 7-digit (now 8-digit) population of employed blacks in this country for a couple of centuries now. That's not because of 'affirmative action'.

    That’s true but in the past they were employed doing useful things commensurate with their talents such as cooking and cleaning rather than as professor of “race studies” and other phony occupations.

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    You have 18 million working blacks, of which about 100,000 are post-secondary teachers in any subject. You have about 1.8 million baccalaureate degrees issued every year, of which fewer than 700 are issued in black studies.

    For the most part, jobs where blacks are abnormally present are mundane wage-earning positions, generally in the service sector (though the occupation where blacks are most common is that of barber; barbers are commonly proprietors). There are about 15 occupations in which blacks are abnormally present which are salaried or which are government wage and of fuzzy utility. Included among them are social workers, school administrators, HR specialists, teachers' aides, &c. Collectively, they encompass about 5.5% of the working black population.
    , @Art Deco
    You have 18 million working blacks, of which about 100,000 are post-secondary teachers in any subject. You have about 1.8 million baccalaureate degrees issued every year, of which fewer than 700 are issued in black studies.

    For the most part, jobs where blacks are abnormally present are mundane wage-earning positions, generally in the service sector (though the occupation where blacks are most common is that of barber; barbers are commonly proprietors). There are about 15 occupations in which blacks are abnormally present which are salaried or which are government wage and of fuzzy utility. Included among them are social workers, school administrators, HR specialists, teachers' aides, &c. Collectively, they encompass about 5.5% of the working black population.
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  141. guest says:
    @Art Deco
    People who tell you they have a handle on the quality of dissertations across a dozen different fields in 1948 and on quality today nearly all have one thing in common: they're lying to themselves if they're not lying to you.

    Across an array of professions, the ratio of practitioners to annual degree awards at this time is as follows:

    Architecture: 28 (master's the denominator)
    Engineering: 16.5 (bachelor's the denominator)
    Dentistry: 21
    Optometry: 24
    Pharmacy: 21 (PharmD)
    Medicine: 27.5 (M.D. and D.O)
    Physical Therapy: 20.5 (DPT)
    Veterinary medicine: 24
    Law: 17 (JD)
    Clergy: 3.5 (M. Div)
    Psychology: 24.5 (PhD. and PsyD. - 23% of working psychologists are post-secondary teachers)
    Physics: 17 (PhD, 46% are post-secondary teachers)
    Chemistry: 37 (PhD, 19% are post-secondary teachers)
    Sociology: 22.5 (PhD, incl urban studies; 84% are post-secondary teachers)
    Economics: 28.5 (PhD, 40% are postsecondary teachers)
    Anthropology: 20.5 (PhD, 47% are postsecondary teachers)
    History: 25 (PhD, 88% are postsecondary teachers)
    Philosophy / Comparative Religion: 30.5 (PhD, all postsecondary teachers)
    English: 48 (PhD, all are postsecondary teachers)

    Caveats: postsecondary teachers tend to work about 70% time on average and about 1/4 work for community colleges, for which a research degree might be somewhat de trop (though very common). The other is that the denominator is the number awarded in 2015, not the mean number awarded since 1982 or thereabouts, which would be more valid.

    Nobody’s an expert in every field, and only a certain few have wide knowledge of dissertation quality in even one field. But we aren’t limited to people who claim knowledge of all fields at once. We can listen to one guy who knows physics has gone to the dogs, and another who knows English is in the crapper, and a third who swears education is down the drain.

    But that would be Noticing patterns, and for some reason you’re dedicated to obtuseness on the topic.

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    We can listen to one guy who knows physics has gone to the dogs, and another who knows English is in the crapper, and a third who swears education is down the drain.

    Except you're not going to find that. You'll find complaints that the humanities and some of the social research disciplines have been injured. And the complaints will not be universal across practitioners or universal in scope. I recently saw someone contend that '70%' of the PhD's awarded were too low in quality to have passed muster in the immediate post-war period. Of course, he doesn't know that. He's just a jack-wagon who makes brazen remarks on a dozen different subjects. I can tell you that what was considered acceptable frequency of faculty publication in 1963 would never pass muster today (and that actually is a verifiable datum).
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  142. ic1000 says:
    @Seth Largo
    OT:

    https://twitter.com/EmilyLindin/status/933073784822579200

    In a just world, Gone Girl would have ended with Ben Affleck on the electric chair.

    I wonder what makes Miss Lindin portray her lack of concern about innocent man losing their jobs over false sexual harassment/assault allegations as unpopular? Seems like Current Year received wisdom to me.

    Perhaps she’s just being coy.

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  143. guest says:
    @anonymous
    Don’t pedants actually know something? So a pseudo-pedant …

    In that case, you’d be better served by calling him a would-be pedant, or pedant-manque.

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    On the spectrum?
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  144. guest says:
    @Samuel Skinner
    Vox Day

    The Alt Right is opposed to the rule or domination of any native ethnic group by another, particularly in the sovereign homelands of the dominated peoples. The Alt Right is opposed to any non-native ethnic group obtaining excessive influence in any society through nepotism, tribalism, or any other means.
     
    He is talking about Jews.

    But he’s fine with Jews having their own nation and bothering eachother instead of you. Therefore, he’s a Zionist.

    If the above article bothered to explain the difference between consistent nationalism and Zionistic particularism (nationalism for me but not for thee–it would make more sense. Instead, they’re lumping things together.

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  146. guest says:
    @Brabantian
    Curious catalogue in the 'Alt-Right' 'Renegade Tribune', article by Roger Mace
    http://www.renegadetribune.com/state-alt-right/
    giving 14 Jewish or Jewish-linked "e-celeb personalities, 'leaders' of the Alternative Right aka Zionist Right", the author Roger Mace commenting -


    No wonder Jewish journalists can’t get enough of this 'movement'!

    Mike Cernovich: Twice admitted to Jewish ancestry, never criticizing Jews

    Mike 'Enoch' Peinovich: Married a Jewess, used to be pro-Israel on his website 'TRS - The Right Stuff'

    Ramsey 'RamZ' Paul: Admits to Jewish ancestry, behaves like an FBI informant, close friends with Jewish journalists, joking about paedophilia

    Milo Yiannopoulos: Jewish, homosexual

    Stefan Molyneux: Jewish, has an obsession with pitting children against their parents

    Andrew 'weev' Auernheimer: Jewish

    Curtis Yavin: Jewish, Zionist supremacist, associated with Peter Thiel

    Richard Spencer: Supports Zionism, rumours about Jewish ancestor

    Alex Jones: Married a Jewess, never criticizes Jews, pushes implausible conspiracy theories that point away from Jews and Deep State operations

    Jared Taylor: Supports Jewish supremacy, ardent Zionist

    Theodore Robert Beale aka 'Vox Day': Supports Israel and Zionism

    Jason Kessler: FBI associate, probably Jewish

    Pax Dickinson: Founder of 'Alt-Right' party with ultra-Zionist Jewish Peter Belau

    Matt Forney: Had Jewish girlfriend Ann Sterzinger

     

    This confuses the issue by playing with the differing meanings of “alternative right” (anything on the right not part of the mainstream, or more particularly not in the service of Conservatism, Inc.) and “alt-right” (the populist nationalist movement on the right.

    Cernovich is not alt-right. Neither is Milo, and they’re very vocal on the point. Molyneux is drifting that way, but he’s still not there. All of these guys are what we call “alt-lite.”

    Yarvin is Moldbug, who was massively influential on the alternative right but is in fact neoreactionary. (And not a Zionist supremacist, though he did apologize for the state of Israel.) He was neither a nationalist nor a populist.

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    "Cernovich is not alt-right. Neither is Milo, and they’re very vocal on the point. Molyneux is drifting that way, but he’s still not there. All of these guys are what we call “alt-lite.”"

    Alt-Lite? No, Brabantian's list clearly listed prominent members of the Alt Right, make no mistake about it.
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  147. She should channel Hillary. Remember the “I don’t feels no ways tired.” speech.

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  148. @anonymous
    Mr. Deco is a pseudo-pedantic asshole but you’ve got to admit that a paragraph like this …

    Caveats: postsecondary teachers tend to work about 70% time on average and about 1/4 work for community colleges, for which a research degree might be somewhat de trop (though very common). The other is that the denominator is the number awarded in 2015, not the mean number awarded since 1982 or thereabouts, which would be more valid.
     
    … is a thing of beauty.

    not only that but unintelligible to boot.

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  149. El Dato says:

    The only ones not exhausted are Islamists, It envy them.

    Let’s raise a glass of vodka to their vigor and may they be frank antimatter to the tired SJW complainatorium!

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  150. guest says:
    @Ryre
    I've noticed this "I'm tired" thing for awhile. I think it serves a rhetorical purpose. If someone says, "I'm angry that I do the dishes all the time and you never do them," one can argue whether that person in fact does the dishes all the time. But "I'm tired from doing the dishes all the time"? That's an assertion of fact and moreover an assertion of an inner state of the speaker. How does one respond--"No, you aren't tired"?

    Furthermore, tiredness carries an air of inevitability. "I got so angry about racism that I burned a cop car"--maybe you should have controlled your temper. "I got so tired of the constant racism that I couldn't take it any more and burned a cop car"--what could you do? You were just plum tuckered out.

    “what could you do? You were just plumb tuckered out.”

    For some reason that excuse never worked when my mom dragged me to church.

    There’s something wrong with our culture if the response can’t be. “Get out of bed, you lazy ass.”

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  151. El Dato says:

    A short critical comment in faculty meeting requires brute force to momentarily pause my shaking hands as I stand to address fellow faculty.

    “Such is the life of being a teacher in literally Bergen-Belsen”

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  152. kihowi says:

    There is only one healthy situation wgt education:

    1) students are prepared for a clear real-world job

    “Science” that has no direct connection with employment, is a hobby, something to do in the evening as relaxation, but not as a preparation for working life. Education exists to create individuals that can serve the rest of society by doing a job well, not to give young people a fun time exploring the few political ideas they’ve managed to gather at that age.

    2)most graduates go on the jobs their education prepared them for

    Any education can be chucked aside easily was either way too easy, too irrelevant or too indiscriminate. Using it just as shorthand for “I have at least moderate intelligence” in job seeking is an insult to the tax payer.

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  153. Wally says:
    @bomag
    Just call her academic career what it is (in her mind), "Twelve Years a Slave".

    Notice how this cohort of SJWs win every debate: if you suggest it is about hard work, they'll tell you everyone works equally hard; but now that you've mentioned it, they are working harder than anyone else.

    If you suggest it is about intelligence, they'll tell you everyone is equally intelligent; but now that you've mentioned it, they are smarter than anyone else.

    If you suggest it is about creativity, they'll tell you everyone is equally creative; but now that you've mentioned it, they are more creative than anyone else.

    Etc.

    She could always look for a job elsewhere.

    That’s what most people do when they claim to be so miserable.

    an aside:

    Cultural Marxism Explained In 7 minutes
    by Joseph Salerno

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/09/joseph-salerno/cultural-marxism-explained-in-7-minutes/

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  154. I’m not eating the kung pao here:

    CINCINNATI (WLWT & WKYC) —
    Police confirmed with WLWT’s sister station WKYC that the 5-year-old girl reported missing in northern Ohio has been found dead in the restaurant where she was last seen.

    A statewide endangered child advisory was issued for Ashley Zhao after she went missing Monday night.

    Authorities told WKYC she was last seen at Ang’s Asian Cuisine restaurant in North Canton, Ohio.

    Her body was reportedly found there Tuesday evening.

    WKYC reports that the girl’s parents, Mingming Chen and Liang Zhou, were taken into custody.

    Reminds me of the Pizza Hut in St Paul that was one door down from Planned Parenthood. I’ll take a cheese-only, please, no meat.

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  155. Whiskey says: • Website
    @Seth Largo
    OT:

    https://twitter.com/EmilyLindin/status/933073784822579200

    In a just world, Gone Girl would have ended with Ben Affleck on the electric chair.

    There is no end of ways in which most White middle and upper class women are the eternal enemy of the 90% of White men not alpha. Or … hate hate hate them.

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    "There is no end of ways in which most White middle and upper class women are the eternal enemy of the 90% of White men not alpha. Or … hate hate hate them."

    Listen, we get it. You were emotionally devastated by a woman, or three, and in response you make wild claims about the white females having a definitive aversion to white men who are other than alpha.

    It makes for great comedy.
    , @Dahlia
    I have a serious challenge for you, Whisky. I've laughed for years...with you, but I'm starting to wonder *just a little bit* if you aren't onto something (my imagination or did you start qualifying it more?)...
    The other day, you said this:

    The White female Upper and Middle Class professionals are the eternal enemy of ordinary White men, their utopia is a few White Tom Bradys, the rest enslaved, and lots of dominance swaggering by low IQ non-White dudes to give them that special feeling they had seeing the Rolling Stone cover of Djokhar Tsarnaev.
     
    I laugh, but your other recent comments were more serious.

    The acid test of whether your theories (umc white women hate, hate, hate betas and hate pretty downscale women) are correct lie in predictions. My challenge for you is to predict what the end results of this current moral panic will be. Or, how it will play out.
    , @Father O'Hara
    Fast fact: Billy the Kid spoke Irish.
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  156. Art Deco says:
    @Jack D
    That's true but in the past they were employed doing useful things commensurate with their talents such as cooking and cleaning rather than as professor of "race studies" and other phony occupations.

    You have 18 million working blacks, of which about 100,000 are post-secondary teachers in any subject. You have about 1.8 million baccalaureate degrees issued every year, of which fewer than 700 are issued in black studies.

    For the most part, jobs where blacks are abnormally present are mundane wage-earning positions, generally in the service sector (though the occupation where blacks are most common is that of barber; barbers are commonly proprietors). There are about 15 occupations in which blacks are abnormally present which are salaried or which are government wage and of fuzzy utility. Included among them are social workers, school administrators, HR specialists, teachers’ aides, &c. Collectively, they encompass about 5.5% of the working black population.

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    Great comment! Worth repeating!
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  157. Art Deco says:
    @Jack D
    That's true but in the past they were employed doing useful things commensurate with their talents such as cooking and cleaning rather than as professor of "race studies" and other phony occupations.

    You have 18 million working blacks, of which about 100,000 are post-secondary teachers in any subject. You have about 1.8 million baccalaureate degrees issued every year, of which fewer than 700 are issued in black studies.

    For the most part, jobs where blacks are abnormally present are mundane wage-earning positions, generally in the service sector (though the occupation where blacks are most common is that of barber; barbers are commonly proprietors). There are about 15 occupations in which blacks are abnormally present which are salaried or which are government wage and of fuzzy utility. Included among them are social workers, school administrators, HR specialists, teachers’ aides, &c. Collectively, they encompass about 5.5% of the working black population.

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    One is too many.
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  158. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Art Deco
    You're fussing over the difference between "The others are just a little better than community colleges." and 'the equivalent of community colleges'. One of the other posters who fancies some variant on 'anonymous' tells me I'm a 'pedant' or 'pseudo-pedant' or somethingorother.

    Guest, an actual pedant, says it should be would-be pedant or pédant manque , so what do I know?

    P.S. To anon’s point, you still didn’t quote him even though you put it in quotes. Are you incapable of arguing honestly?

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  159. Art Deco says:
    @guest
    Nobody's an expert in every field, and only a certain few have wide knowledge of dissertation quality in even one field. But we aren't limited to people who claim knowledge of all fields at once. We can listen to one guy who knows physics has gone to the dogs, and another who knows English is in the crapper, and a third who swears education is down the drain.

    But that would be Noticing patterns, and for some reason you're dedicated to obtuseness on the topic.

    We can listen to one guy who knows physics has gone to the dogs, and another who knows English is in the crapper, and a third who swears education is down the drain.

    Except you’re not going to find that. You’ll find complaints that the humanities and some of the social research disciplines have been injured. And the complaints will not be universal across practitioners or universal in scope. I recently saw someone contend that ’70%’ of the PhD’s awarded were too low in quality to have passed muster in the immediate post-war period. Of course, he doesn’t know that. He’s just a jack-wagon who makes brazen remarks on a dozen different subjects. I can tell you that what was considered acceptable frequency of faculty publication in 1963 would never pass muster today (and that actually is a verifiable datum).

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    He’s just a jack-wagon who makes brazen remarks on a dozen different subjects.
     
    I hate people like that!
    , @Anonymous
    "[A]cceptable frequency of faculty publication" is an utterly asinine metric.
    , @Logan
    A dozen subjects? What a loser!
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  160. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @guest
    In that case, you'd be better served by calling him a would-be pedant, or pedant-manque.

    On the spectrum?

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    I think being pedantic about forms of pedantry is funny.
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  161. El Dato says:
    @Another Realist
    My kids have been informed by their high school that saying "You can succeed if you work hard enough" is racist. Apparently some people can't succeed no matter how hard they work. Is it because they have lower IQ or did they just not work hard enough? Neither, it's all racism.

    The root of all the blacks' malcontent on college campuses is Affirmative Action, which hurts much more than help them due to academic mismatch. Blacks and hispanics who are admitted to schools where their test scores put them in the bottom 25% are in over their heads. Not surprisingly all they can major in is ethnic studies, which also gives the colleges excuses to hire blacks and hispanics. It's all they're qualified to teach, and learn. Forget STEM, you know they can't hack it it, browns and blacks just can't count, but at elite schools even History or English is too much work or too much stress for their muddled brains.

    The DOJ is now investigating Harvard's admission practices for alleged discrimination against Asian-Americans. I think their time would be better spent by looking into whether AA is helping or hurting blacks. The book "Mismatch" by Sander-Taylor lays out conclusive evidence supporting what common sense has been telling us for years. But then if liberals have any common sense, they wouldn't be liberals.

    How about “You can succeed if you play vidya games”?

    Is that nonracist?

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  162. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Art Deco
    We can listen to one guy who knows physics has gone to the dogs, and another who knows English is in the crapper, and a third who swears education is down the drain.

    Except you're not going to find that. You'll find complaints that the humanities and some of the social research disciplines have been injured. And the complaints will not be universal across practitioners or universal in scope. I recently saw someone contend that '70%' of the PhD's awarded were too low in quality to have passed muster in the immediate post-war period. Of course, he doesn't know that. He's just a jack-wagon who makes brazen remarks on a dozen different subjects. I can tell you that what was considered acceptable frequency of faculty publication in 1963 would never pass muster today (and that actually is a verifiable datum).

    He’s just a jack-wagon who makes brazen remarks on a dozen different subjects.

    I hate people like that!

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  163. @Another Realist
    My kids have been informed by their high school that saying "You can succeed if you work hard enough" is racist. Apparently some people can't succeed no matter how hard they work. Is it because they have lower IQ or did they just not work hard enough? Neither, it's all racism.

    The root of all the blacks' malcontent on college campuses is Affirmative Action, which hurts much more than help them due to academic mismatch. Blacks and hispanics who are admitted to schools where their test scores put them in the bottom 25% are in over their heads. Not surprisingly all they can major in is ethnic studies, which also gives the colleges excuses to hire blacks and hispanics. It's all they're qualified to teach, and learn. Forget STEM, you know they can't hack it it, browns and blacks just can't count, but at elite schools even History or English is too much work or too much stress for their muddled brains.

    The DOJ is now investigating Harvard's admission practices for alleged discrimination against Asian-Americans. I think their time would be better spent by looking into whether AA is helping or hurting blacks. The book "Mismatch" by Sander-Taylor lays out conclusive evidence supporting what common sense has been telling us for years. But then if liberals have any common sense, they wouldn't be liberals.

    I said something similar to a black student in 1988 (“work hard enough…”) and she replied that that was a “total myth”.

    Thinking on it now, I agree with her. Not because of racism, but because to achieve your dreams requires lots of factors outside your control to fall into place. In fact, racism might be part of it, but you can’t control that either. I think it’s best to have reasonable expectations for your plans and be ready to be overjoyed if the best happens. Her approach was to expect to be disappointed and to have an explanation at hand: white racism.

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  164. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Art Deco
    You have 18 million working blacks, of which about 100,000 are post-secondary teachers in any subject. You have about 1.8 million baccalaureate degrees issued every year, of which fewer than 700 are issued in black studies.

    For the most part, jobs where blacks are abnormally present are mundane wage-earning positions, generally in the service sector (though the occupation where blacks are most common is that of barber; barbers are commonly proprietors). There are about 15 occupations in which blacks are abnormally present which are salaried or which are government wage and of fuzzy utility. Included among them are social workers, school administrators, HR specialists, teachers' aides, &c. Collectively, they encompass about 5.5% of the working black population.

    Great comment! Worth repeating!

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  165. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar
    I'm not eating the kung pao here:

    CINCINNATI (WLWT & WKYC) —
    Police confirmed with WLWT's sister station WKYC that the 5-year-old girl reported missing in northern Ohio has been found dead in the restaurant where she was last seen.

    A statewide endangered child advisory was issued for Ashley Zhao after she went missing Monday night.


    Authorities told WKYC she was last seen at Ang’s Asian Cuisine restaurant in North Canton, Ohio.

    Her body was reportedly found there Tuesday evening.

    WKYC reports that the girl's parents, Mingming Chen and Liang Zhou, were taken into custody.
     
    Reminds me of the Pizza Hut in St Paul that was one door down from Planned Parenthood. I'll take a cheese-only, please, no meat.

    I thought stem cells are the answer to all life’s problems.

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    I thought stem cells are the answer to all life’s problems.
     
    Don't go anywhere without them.
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  166. @Steve Sailer
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXKmsvRXE4A

    When I got off the jetliner in Rio de Janeiro in 1978, the Rio airport was playing Grand Funk Railroad as airport music.

    We’re an American Band is my go-to song if I must sing karaoke.

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    Have you heard this, err..., rendition?

    http://www.madmusic.com/song_details.aspx?SongID=11124

    I miss Dr. Demento
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  167. “Emotional labor” is le mot juste.

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  168. neutral says:
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    "Watch as Mueller very rapidly has his investigation cancelled..."

    Right, because his Jewish masters are going to put the kibosh on it for getting too close to the truth.

    The investigation is not going to be canceled. Things pick up speed, then they slow down, then events unfold. Mueller's findings is more than about apparent Russian hacking of the election--it certainly appears that it's money laundering, bribery, and a whole lot more.

    Which is quite interesting how the normally perceptive Mr. Sailer is steering clear with his own "noticings" about the several ongoing investigations of Trump and his cohorts.

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  169. guest says:
    @anonymous
    On the spectrum?

    I think being pedantic about forms of pedantry is funny.

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    I think being pedantic about forms of pedantry is funny.
     
    One could be amused by others "being pedantic about forms of pedantry" but to actually find it funny. ... OMG! You're a sociopath!
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  170. anon • Disclaimer says: • Website
    @Steve Sailer
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXKmsvRXE4A

    When I got off the jetliner in Rio de Janeiro in 1978, the Rio airport was playing Grand Funk Railroad as airport music.

    The Loco-Motion was pretty good. I blame Todd Rundgren for that.

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    That's what was playing over the Rio airport sound system when I got off the plane in 1978: Grand Funk's cover of Loco-Motion.
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  171. Corvinus says:
    @Mr Rooney
    Behold the crippling guilt wrought by the affirmative action Armageddon on the Academy

    Behold a member of the Coalition of the Left Fringe presenting a narrative by an “anonymous professor of color” that normies generally shaking their head at “racial battle fatigue”, with that narrative touted by Mr. Sailor as being held by mainstream liberals and “bad” whites (or is it “good” whites, I struggle with keeping up the proper verbiage).

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  172. @Ryre
    I've noticed this "I'm tired" thing for awhile. I think it serves a rhetorical purpose. If someone says, "I'm angry that I do the dishes all the time and you never do them," one can argue whether that person in fact does the dishes all the time. But "I'm tired from doing the dishes all the time"? That's an assertion of fact and moreover an assertion of an inner state of the speaker. How does one respond--"No, you aren't tired"?

    Furthermore, tiredness carries an air of inevitability. "I got so angry about racism that I burned a cop car"--maybe you should have controlled your temper. "I got so tired of the constant racism that I couldn't take it any more and burned a cop car"--what could you do? You were just plum tuckered out.

    It was funny to me during the recent campaign that Hillary often used the rhetorical formulation, “I am sick and tired of . . . ” because she really did look sick and tired.

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    It's a vicious cycle.

    These elite female colleges are the worst, and many of them created these nasty elite bitches.

    These places combine elitist entitlement & privilege with virtue vanity & radical chic.
    Both modes feed each other. These nasty bitches wanna go to some exclusive expensive elite school and feeeeeeeeeeel soooooo special. They are so smart, privileged, and cream of the crop.
    But that would mean they are part of the Greed Tribe. So, they put on this radical postures to fool themselves and the world that they are about prooooooooogress and soooooooocial justiceeeeeeeeee.

    It's a truly ugly combination. Damn witches.
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  173. Corvinus says:
    @neutral
    Watch as Mueller very rapidly has his investigation cancelled:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-21/special-counsel-mueller-now-probing-kushners-un-contacts-israel-during-transition-ws

    “Watch as Mueller very rapidly has his investigation cancelled…”

    Right, because his Jewish masters are going to put the kibosh on it for getting too close to the truth.

    The investigation is not going to be canceled. Things pick up speed, then they slow down, then events unfold. Mueller’s findings is more than about apparent Russian hacking of the election–it certainly appears that it’s money laundering, bribery, and a whole lot more.

    Which is quite interesting how the normally perceptive Mr. Sailer is steering clear with his own “noticings” about the several ongoing investigations of Trump and his cohorts.

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    Right, because the likes of Schumer, McCain, Graham, etc, hate Trump more than they support Israel... You honestly think that that the likes of AIPAC are going to want their back door dealings make the main news of CNN???
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  174. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @bob sykes
    The only cure for her troubles is strict racial segregation. There are a number of Black colleges scattered around the US, mostly in the US, she should apply for a job at one of those.

    The only cure for her troubles is strict racial segregation. There are a number of Black colleges scattered around the US, mostly in the US, she should apply for a job at one of those.

    Not the only cure, but probably the best.

    When talented tenth blacks weren’t treated as honorary whites, the black “community” (which it really was then, moreso than today by far) had better leadership by far than today. Blacks mostly knew the truth, on some level: they just didn’t have “the necessities”, and they did the best they could with only incidental envy and resentment.

    This woman probably could have had a retail management or junior high schoolteacher job and been a success, but in the university environment she’s out of her depth. She knows it, which is why she’s flailing.

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  175. Corvinus says:
    @Whiskey
    There is no end of ways in which most White middle and upper class women are the eternal enemy of the 90% of White men not alpha. Or ... hate hate hate them.

    “There is no end of ways in which most White middle and upper class women are the eternal enemy of the 90% of White men not alpha. Or … hate hate hate them.”

    Listen, we get it. You were emotionally devastated by a woman, or three, and in response you make wild claims about the white females having a definitive aversion to white men who are other than alpha.

    It makes for great comedy.

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  176. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Bitching and Whining are career choices. It is work!

    Some yrs ago, there was a theory that poor people(esp blacks) fall so far behind because they are tired from all the little chores and hassles they must handle on a day to day basis.

    But now, even girls at elite colleges and access to parents bank accts are so tired and overcome with the noble labor of bitching and whining.

    Maybe they should just offer Bitching 101 and Whining 202.

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  177. Dahlia says:
    @Whiskey
    There is no end of ways in which most White middle and upper class women are the eternal enemy of the 90% of White men not alpha. Or ... hate hate hate them.

    I have a serious challenge for you, Whisky. I’ve laughed for years…with you, but I’m starting to wonder *just a little bit* if you aren’t onto something (my imagination or did you start qualifying it more?)…
    The other day, you said this:

    The White female Upper and Middle Class professionals are the eternal enemy of ordinary White men, their utopia is a few White Tom Bradys, the rest enslaved, and lots of dominance swaggering by low IQ non-White dudes to give them that special feeling they had seeing the Rolling Stone cover of Djokhar Tsarnaev.

    I laugh, but your other recent comments were more serious.

    The acid test of whether your theories (umc white women hate, hate, hate betas and hate pretty downscale women) are correct lie in predictions. My challenge for you is to predict what the end results of this current moral panic will be. Or, how it will play out.

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    "My challenge for you is to predict what the end results of this current moral panic will be. Or, how it will play out"

    Legalized, or at least social acceptance of polygamy, while the (50%? 75%?) least attractive men are systematically creep-shamed out of the mating market.
    , @Dahlia

    "...is built upon catering to Upper Middle Class Women who … wait for it … HATE HATE HATE Beta White males and so construct elaborate lies to justify their rage at: A. Attention from dweeby nerdy beta White males (an insult suggesting they are indeed ordinary..."
     
    Back to laughing again Don't ever change, Whiskey!
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  178. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    It was funny to me during the recent campaign that Hillary often used the rhetorical formulation, "I am sick and tired of . . . " because she really did look sick and tired.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJxmpTMGhU0

    It’s a vicious cycle.

    These elite female colleges are the worst, and many of them created these nasty elite bitches.

    These places combine elitist entitlement & privilege with virtue vanity & radical chic.
    Both modes feed each other. These nasty bitches wanna go to some exclusive expensive elite school and feeeeeeeeeeel soooooo special. They are so smart, privileged, and cream of the crop.
    But that would mean they are part of the Greed Tribe. So, they put on this radical postures to fool themselves and the world that they are about prooooooooogress and soooooooocial justiceeeeeeeeee.

    It’s a truly ugly combination. Damn witches.

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  179. @anon
    The Loco-Motion was pretty good. I blame Todd Rundgren for that.

    That’s what was playing over the Rio airport sound system when I got off the plane in 1978: Grand Funk’s cover of Loco-Motion.

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  180. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The academic’s rhetoric and concept of how the world works show how thoroughly legalism of the lowest bus-bench variety has conquered the mass mind. Payment is no longer seen as something exchanged in return for performing a task, i.e. work (definition: something you couldn’t find anyone else to do for free), but is viewed through the lens of entitlement, verdicts, statutory fees, and “damages” compensation. i.e. Pokemon points. I get paid merely for existing in my exquisitely oppressed style and I’m gon’ splain it to you how much I deserve that money, etc.

    At least Teh-Genius had to estimate slavery reparations as some convolutes kind of back-wages settlement; the more explicitly female, housewife version just grafts the tollbooth mentality atop that: hey you cracker, I am brave for denouncing your white ways; cuz I’m worth it, ergo pay me, etc. There should be a word for this, along the lines of concern-trolling, humblebrag, crybullying– maybe “guilt-mining?” Sort of in the way you mine Bitcoins: performing feats of resource-extraction performance art rather than adding value to any good or service.

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    "Guilt mining" is a good term for it.
    , @guest
    I think it's less inspired by law than by the welfare state and its associated "entitlements."
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  181. While I will admit that most people who teach academic subjects like STEM, literature, and accounting actually DO roll their eyes at professors of Victim Studies, the academy has provided provided thousands of new jobs for people like the author. She’s lying or completely clueless when she says, “most of us won’t make tenure”. Since the college likely must have a diverse faculty, and there are almost no black females getting PhD’s in science and such, she’s nearly a cinch for tenure. OTOH maybe she would find cleaning houses or working at WalMart for $12/hr less “exhausting” than fighting microaggressions day and night.

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    Do we really need literature, though? I'm not convinced it's built itself into an actual discipline, much less one our civilization needs to subsidize.

    Used to be, they only bothered with the classics and other old-timey stuff, then modern languages. But not until relatively recently was it decided people needed instruction in and study of literature written in their own tongue. Which, unless it's deliberately obscure like Funnyman's Wake or whatever, is open with a little effort to be read by anyone who knows the language. Anyone who knows English can read that stuff on their own if they want. They can't build a bridge on their own, however. That requires studying engineering.

    Which isn't to say literary scholarship is all bunk, or to ignite all the great literature written about literature. I'm just wondering if we need to pay for it or force adults to read it.

    The only question would be when language becomes old enough. Renaissance English was described by a professor of mine as "the easiest foreign language you'll ever learn," which was an exaggeration. Shakespeare's not like reading Beowulf, and if frontier peasants could do it I can too.

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  182. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    A_____B_____: has Jewish dentist.

    K____C____: once ate a corned beef sandwich on Jewish rye bread.

    D_____F___: uses kosher salt in his cooking.

    If only there was some office where these poor falsely accused people could go and get a certificate attesting to their non-Jewishness after providing suitable genealogical proof.

    I wonder what brabantian has to say about Brother Nathanael.

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  183. @Dahlia
    I have a serious challenge for you, Whisky. I've laughed for years...with you, but I'm starting to wonder *just a little bit* if you aren't onto something (my imagination or did you start qualifying it more?)...
    The other day, you said this:

    The White female Upper and Middle Class professionals are the eternal enemy of ordinary White men, their utopia is a few White Tom Bradys, the rest enslaved, and lots of dominance swaggering by low IQ non-White dudes to give them that special feeling they had seeing the Rolling Stone cover of Djokhar Tsarnaev.
     
    I laugh, but your other recent comments were more serious.

    The acid test of whether your theories (umc white women hate, hate, hate betas and hate pretty downscale women) are correct lie in predictions. My challenge for you is to predict what the end results of this current moral panic will be. Or, how it will play out.

    “My challenge for you is to predict what the end results of this current moral panic will be. Or, how it will play out”

    Legalized, or at least social acceptance of polygamy, while the (50%? 75%?) least attractive men are systematically creep-shamed out of the mating market.

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    Blacks and to a point Hispanics already practice common law polygamy....

    The hood gang alphas and dealers father all the children.....now they're trying to pull that shit on white and Asian girls as the child support noose tightens around their necks.....and they start to shun their own women.....
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  184. neutral says:
    @Corvinus
    "Watch as Mueller very rapidly has his investigation cancelled..."

    Right, because his Jewish masters are going to put the kibosh on it for getting too close to the truth.

    The investigation is not going to be canceled. Things pick up speed, then they slow down, then events unfold. Mueller's findings is more than about apparent Russian hacking of the election--it certainly appears that it's money laundering, bribery, and a whole lot more.

    Which is quite interesting how the normally perceptive Mr. Sailer is steering clear with his own "noticings" about the several ongoing investigations of Trump and his cohorts.

    Right, because the likes of Schumer, McCain, Graham, etc, hate Trump more than they support Israel… You honestly think that that the likes of AIPAC are going to want their back door dealings make the main news of CNN???

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    "Right, because the likes of Schumer, McCain, Graham, etc, hate Trump more than they support Israel…"

    Right, because the Jewish cabal is everywhere and anywhere, lying in wait to jooify their next victim.

    "You honestly think that that the likes of AIPAC are going to want their back door dealings make the main news of CNN???"

    You honestly think that the likes of Trump and his crew are going to want their machinations exposed?
    And that Mueller is merely but a puppet of Jews?
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  185. Dahlia says:
    @Dahlia
    I have a serious challenge for you, Whisky. I've laughed for years...with you, but I'm starting to wonder *just a little bit* if you aren't onto something (my imagination or did you start qualifying it more?)...
    The other day, you said this:

    The White female Upper and Middle Class professionals are the eternal enemy of ordinary White men, their utopia is a few White Tom Bradys, the rest enslaved, and lots of dominance swaggering by low IQ non-White dudes to give them that special feeling they had seeing the Rolling Stone cover of Djokhar Tsarnaev.
     
    I laugh, but your other recent comments were more serious.

    The acid test of whether your theories (umc white women hate, hate, hate betas and hate pretty downscale women) are correct lie in predictions. My challenge for you is to predict what the end results of this current moral panic will be. Or, how it will play out.

    “…is built upon catering to Upper Middle Class Women who … wait for it … HATE HATE HATE Beta White males and so construct elaborate lies to justify their rage at: A. Attention from dweeby nerdy beta White males (an insult suggesting they are indeed ordinary…”

    Back to laughing again Don’t ever change, Whiskey!

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  186. @Anonymouse
    What field did you get your Ph.D. in and where?

    Earning a Ph.D. in a serious subject is a great honor and a great gift even if one is not employed in academia.

    There are unemployed Ph.D.'s who write papers and get them published in refereed journals. The term of art for these losers is "unaffiliated."

    While The Academy (c) is an awful soul-sucking monster, the work itself is fantastic IMO. Research and teaching in the hard sciences is extremely exhilarating and rewarding (though not monetarily), and this is true on a day-to-day basis as well as over a career. It’s an easy job to like.

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  187. CCZ says:

    Social “Justice” Jihadist (Unitarian-Universalist version) Thanksgiving Greeting:

    “For those who hold Thanksgiving as a day of sadness, who mourn for the hurt and loss of native peoples, … we hold your heartache and sorrow so you do not have to carry the burden alone.”

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    Nothing about the turkeys! These Unitarians do sound like a bunch of haters ... and ... pass me some more of that delicious gravy.
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  188. Kylie says:
    @J1234
    Many black academics aren't trying to escape racism, they're trying to be part of a monastic existence that allows only one mindset...one faith, albeit secular, with no opposition. Opposition equals oppression in this orderly existence. They want a world where their precepts are everyone else's precepts, sort of ignoring (or being ignorant of) the old idea that universities should be places where precepts are challenged, not enforced.

    My liberal college professor spouse had a black diversity specialist guest lecture once a year on a regular basis, and it eventually got to be a painful experience for everyone involved (except the guest lecturer.) The presentations became nothing more than fiery, condemning sermons filled with lots of venom and very little thought - a call for disciples rather than curious students.

    My spouse's field of study is largely apolitical, so the class was eventually able to transition away from this guest speaker, but the mentality remains in university settings. Too many blacks, whether they're academics or garbage men, think of the world in terms of simplistic power structure models - if you don't have omnipotence over others, they will gain omnipotence over you.

    “Many black academics aren’t trying to escape racism, they’re trying to be part of a monastic existence that allows only one mindset…one faith, albeit secular, with no opposition. Opposition equals oppression in this orderly existence. They want a world where their precepts are everyone else’s precepts, sort of ignoring (or being ignorant of) the old idea that universities should be places where precepts are challenged, not enforced.”

    In other words, they have real difficulty understanding abstract thought.

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    Indeed. And it is for this reason that they will fail to understand the actual dynamics in play in any academic setting, and instead attribute everything to racism, usually of the 'invisible' kind.

    Interviewer: "Why do you copy other artists' work?"
    Andy Warhol: "It's easier that way."
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  189. AndrewR says:
    @PhysicistDave
    Actually, the whole business model in the academic world is highly dehumanizing: basically, a Ponzi scheme with human beings as the tokens.

    To be a senior professor, you have to churn out multiple doctoral students, far, far more than the one that would suffice to replace you when you finally retire decades hence.

    So, the young, newly minted Ph.D.s have to engage in a fratricidal struggle to gain tenure. "Publish or perish" -- except truly important contributions to human knowledge are few, far between, and unpredictable. So, you learn to fake it.

    And, you probably still lose to some lucky guy who fakes it a little bit better than the rest of you.

    I'm sure there are lots of biological analogies -- like the sharks that eat their sibs while still inside the mother.

    For anyone who is wondering, no, I got out right after getting my Ph.D. But, I watched the process in fascination when I was a doctoral student and have continued to watch in horrified fascination in the decades since.

    People who could be perfectly good engineers, accountants, or dental assistants waste their lives on this.

    Something is very, very wrong in America.

    And almost no one talks openly about it.

    Eight Agrees. Unz.com record?

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  190. @ben tillman
    We're an American Band is my go-to song if I must sing karaoke.

    Have you heard this, err…, rendition?

    http://www.madmusic.com/song_details.aspx?SongID=11124

    I miss Dr. Demento

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  191. @Brabantian
    Curious catalogue in the 'Alt-Right' 'Renegade Tribune', article by Roger Mace
    http://www.renegadetribune.com/state-alt-right/
    giving 14 Jewish or Jewish-linked "e-celeb personalities, 'leaders' of the Alternative Right aka Zionist Right", the author Roger Mace commenting -


    No wonder Jewish journalists can’t get enough of this 'movement'!

    Mike Cernovich: Twice admitted to Jewish ancestry, never criticizing Jews

    Mike 'Enoch' Peinovich: Married a Jewess, used to be pro-Israel on his website 'TRS - The Right Stuff'

    Ramsey 'RamZ' Paul: Admits to Jewish ancestry, behaves like an FBI informant, close friends with Jewish journalists, joking about paedophilia

    Milo Yiannopoulos: Jewish, homosexual

    Stefan Molyneux: Jewish, has an obsession with pitting children against their parents

    Andrew 'weev' Auernheimer: Jewish

    Curtis Yavin: Jewish, Zionist supremacist, associated with Peter Thiel

    Richard Spencer: Supports Zionism, rumours about Jewish ancestor

    Alex Jones: Married a Jewess, never criticizes Jews, pushes implausible conspiracy theories that point away from Jews and Deep State operations

    Jared Taylor: Supports Jewish supremacy, ardent Zionist

    Theodore Robert Beale aka 'Vox Day': Supports Israel and Zionism

    Jason Kessler: FBI associate, probably Jewish

    Pax Dickinson: Founder of 'Alt-Right' party with ultra-Zionist Jewish Peter Belau

    Matt Forney: Had Jewish girlfriend Ann Sterzinger

     

    I too have noticed that Alex Jones, like Ann Coulter, is a professional attention-diverter. Their tactics seem to work on tens of millions of American voters.

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    Ann Coulter has been dead-on right on everything I've read from her in the last 5 years. What the hell are you on, Bro?
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  192. @Clyde
    It would be interesting to know what her field is and what she is teaching. Of course we can eliminate anything STEM or close to it.

    I read the full article and the language looked very familiar – I’d seen a lot of it before.

    How about:
    Expertise: media arts, media and film, experimental media

    Related Subjects: Cultural Studies, Media and Film, Media Arts

    I’m not absolutely certain, but this may be the author. Lots more on Youtube.

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    I think you are joking. That shemale beast is not her but a specimen similar to her. Of course that fugly parasite is ripping off Washington State taxpayers via her professorship in bllsht "studies" of some kind. The first order of socialism and SWJism is plundering the public treasury for you, your family (extreme nepotism) and your friends.
    , @Olorin
    Not sure I'd come to the same conclusion. However either way, it would behoove the old gray Chronic to dig a bit deeper than the writer's assertions about widespread institutional racism/collective racial guilt.

    If you are right about Ms. Lowe, then it might be instructive to ask how a Black Queer Artist And Educator Born In Middletown, CT (Ms. Lowe's self description), went from gushing enthusiasm about getting hired at ESC for Her Dream Job to the behavior in the video.

    Below is her 2010 blog entry entitled "I Win, and You Can Too!"

    I'm quoting it at length because it offers a glimpse into the mindset of mid-Obama-era academics who produce nothing, expect everything...while demanding the individual and collective power to destroy those who create and maintain the civilization they criticize and parasitize. All in the name of Social Justice, etc.

    We now have several generations of these people who bent their existence around the Ed Biz's promise of a lifetime sinecure for spouting, conforming to, and doubling down on nonsense.

    You can read Lowe's doubts about this career path between the lines and right in them. Plus as Lowe openly admits, she prostituted herself to the Ed Biz. Scorned strumpet/infernal fury is hardly a surprising theme in the annals of human behavior.

    As our host has observed from parsing people's LinkedIn pages, many begin this deliberate, pointed academic whoreclimb in high school or earlier...or are shunted that way by others.

    Being disabused of their illusions in their 30s and seeing larger cultural and social changes underway must be startling indeed.

    For instance, Ms. Lowe appeared on November 9, 2016, on the Evergreen campus wearing a full body garment imprinted all over with hands extending their middle finger. She used a photo of herself wearing it, and echoing its gesture, to illustrate a tirade against Donald J. Trump and his voters, including "I am grateful to spend time with other women of color doing the hard fucking work of fixing this mess that whiteness has made…. To my white friends: You're on notice. If you are not paying me cash money, working on an impeachment plan or burning a cop shop to the ground, we don't have much to say to each other."

    A person sure can go downhill in six years when thwarted in ego.

    I have some amazing news.

    I have scored my dream job at the Evergreen State College in Olympia WA. I'll be teaching experimental and non-fiction film and video at a fantastic little public liberal arts college. It's an interdisciplinary college so that means that I get to teach across methodologies and with faculty in a variety of fields. The people are great, the campus is beautiful, and the opportunities for growth are fantastic. Like I said, my dream job. So dreamy in fact that I still periodically check the job boards because I haven't totally convinced myself that it's real.

    I'm moving far away from everything I've ever known here on the dirty old East Coast, which is such an adventure for me in so many ways. I am happy, scared, thrilled, nervous, amazed and generally impressed with myself and the universe for this amazing opportunity.

    I'm inspired to write a little something about this whole issue of getting ones foot in the academia door based on an interesting post written by this illustrious Julie Levin Russo last year when she landed her first academic job. She muses brilliantly on the strange culture industry that is academia and the challenges faced by young/new scholars. Her conclusions are astutely based in an analysis of how class privilege dictates ones relative ability to "make it" in academia. I couldn't agree more with her conclusions, and I recommend you read her thoughts on this and more over at her blog.

    I am, of course, in a slightly different category as an artist navigating academia. In some ways us artists have an advantage, at least in terms of our mindset. As an artist, I've long since given up on the idea that what I produce is anything but a commodity to be traded in one of various cultural marketplaces. We all do it, one way or another. We go on tour, we get commissions, we audition for commercials, we get design gigs on the side, we teach, we beg, we borrow, we steal. Depending on our educations, privileges, and inclinations, some of us end up in Academia. I am one such person.

    Some background: I grew up around educators and academics and artists, so my inclination towards this field was somewhat predisposed. There was a moment in college when I thought I'd rebel and become a corporate lawyer or get an MBA, but I figured I'd rather not actually be able to pay off my student loans, so I stuck with art. My father is an artist and scholar working in academia, so its really kind of the family business.

    There is a somewhat long and convoluted story that accounts for how I ended up getting an MFA in Film in 2008, which I won't bother to tell right now. But I did it, and then I needed to become employed. Before and during graduate school, I had a variety of jobs, in fields savory and unsavory that paid my bills and kept me in good stories to make art about. After graduate school I decided to really "go for it" and focused all of my energy on doing that wonderfully absurd hustle known as: Being an Adjunct.

    And all of the stories you've heard about it are true. I've worked at 4 different colleges and high school media programs in the last 2 years, often all at the same time, and still made less than I did with one job as an Administrative Assistant before graduate school. I had no job security, no health benefits, almost no formal career development or supervisory support, and little to no collegiality. More than anything, I had a general sense that I was a disposable commodity in the minds of the administration(s) of the school(s) I worked for. As in, if I walked away angrily, I could be easily replaced. And now that I'm leaving this life behind, I will be, by people who are just as (and often more so) qualified and hard working.

    Also, I loved it. I happen to love teaching. I happen to think it is fulfilling, exciting, and fun. It's a creative job with lots of flexibility and autonomy. It's a job that connects you to people while they are exploring ideas and dreams, which is dreamy. I came to appreciate the fact that my life changed all the time. With a total lack of job security came new people, new places, and new challenges all the time. I wouldn't trade that for anything.

    Now, my ability to find joy in this crazy lifestyle was facilitated largely by the stability provided by living with my consistently employed partner of five years in a house with a tiny mortgage. She works for a company that provides domestic partner benefits, and she had faith (thanks love!) in my ability to eventually come out with a better job. (Class privileges come in many many forms, yes they do.) So, I built my CV, both in teaching and in my art practice. I worked on projects new and old, updated my website, kept up my contacts with other artists, did activist work with organizations that I cared about, got to spend time with my family, and managed to live a pretty good life. I had time to go on the academic job market 2 years in a row, applying to around 40 jobs that resulted in 7 phone interviews and 5 campus interviews. There were close calls, near misses, bad fits, and tragic outcomes. My anxiety was in constant overdrive, and my therapist worked hard for her sliding scale fee. And then about 3 weeks ago I got a phone call over dinner with a fellow hard working artist. We were actually in the midst of talking about how badly I wanted this job at Evergreen. And then I got it. And now everything changes.

    I never ever have to do the adjunct hustle again. If I'm savvy and committed in this job, I have the opportunity to stay there for a long time which means continual fulfilling work in a place that will support my creativity and teaching ability. I get to take summers off to work on my own art practice (and personal well being.) I get to be one of the "chosen few." There are lots of artists who have no desire to be in academia, and even more who will never have access to its comforts regardless of their personal inclinations. I'm not going to attempt any deep contemplation on the deeply complex class issues that impact artists more broadly in this little missive.  I feel more equipped to consider the fact that even for those of us who have the privilege and desire to commit ourselves to the false meritocracy that is academia, eyes wide open and willing to do it just for the sake of creativity, inquiry and exploration... Even for us, this system is fundamentally flawed. I'm not saying that I didn't work hard or that I don't deserve to be where I am. I didn't lie, cheat, or steal to get this job. But this isn't a simple equation of smarts + experience + dedication + education + talent = job. Like every other person trying to survive capitalism I had to find the right way to sell the commodity that is ME, and enter into an industry that is barely willing to acknowledge the fact that it is, in fact, an industry!

    As cultural producers and service providers in colleges and universities, academics are workers (of a peculiar  and highly privileged sort, no doubt, but workers nonetheless.), and it behooves us to continually evaluate our labor, evaluate our relationships to management, strengthen our relationships to other workers within our industry and in all industries, and work hard to remind ourselves and everyone around us of the structural inequities that impact our ability to work with dignity and fairness. I'm writing this as a reminder to myself that I have "moved up in the world," but that I don't want to fall into the trap of thinking "well, that's just how it's done." In addition to the lie of meritocracy, academics of all stripes, and perhaps artists in particular, participate in the lie that it's ok to let junior scholars and artists put up with this mess because we had to put up with it! Graduate school, post-graduate school, and junior scholar status is like a 10 year long hazing ritual for the overly educated. What are the implications for academia if it continues on in this way? What does it mean for undergraduates, future scholars, and the production of new knowledge and art in academia if only the strongest (and most class privileged) can survive? Does it have to be this way?

    So my dear 7 readers, what are the alternatives? I am here as an artist in academia because I actually do believe in art and education for its own sake. I believe that it is important and worthwhile, and I believe that it is worth investing my time, energy and smarts in, despite all its flaws. Maybe the 8 of us can come up some ideas on how to make it better, for everyone.

    Yours Truly,
    Naima
     
    http://www.naimalowe.net/blog/2010/03/31/i-win-and-so-can-you
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  193. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @guest
    I think being pedantic about forms of pedantry is funny.

    I think being pedantic about forms of pedantry is funny.

    One could be amused by others “being pedantic about forms of pedantry” but to actually find it funny. … OMG! You’re a sociopath!

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    No, not about others, but about myself "being pedantic about forms of pedantry."

    I was being tongue-in-cheek with my "pedant-manque" post above. Because I think it's funny to be overly concerned with semantic details of various forms of pedantry. Pedantry itself in one sense being excessive concern with detail.

    Now that you mention it, other people being pedantic about pedantry would be funny.
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  194. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Will hate hoaxers feel hate-hoax fatigue? I mean it must be pretty taxing to carry out one hoax after another. That Jewish kid who got caught sending threats to Jewish centers… he deserves our sympathy. He was working so hard to defame goyim to have more justice for Jews.

    What about people who just want to study? What about that Asian guy in the library who told BLM whores to be quiet so he can study for exams?
    Is that fatigue-fatigue? Fatigued from too many SJW’s fatiguing themselves out?

    In a way, it’s understandable why F-word became the most famous word, the most ubiquitous word. Paradoxically, the most banned word became the most spoken word(of expression). It is used positively, negatively, as insult, compliment. It’s about sex, which is what most people want, but it’s used as something most unpleasant.

    America has gone nihilist, and the F-word is now the only honest word, which is why Tarantino, the most famous American director since the 90s, is a F-bomb artist. And it was the 60s that the F-word and Middle Finger become synonymous with everything from pop culture to radical politics to black power to counterculture to whatever.
    It used to be banned from Hollywood until R-rated movies came along. Allowing F-word was like allowing nudity and then pornography. It was still banned on TV but then came VCR and cable TV and F-bombs went off in the home too.

    BLM is filled with obscenity. It is really must a big middle finger to White America and Police. Rap, where every other word is the f-word, is peddled as socially conscious message, even moral jeremiads.

    But all this ‘justice’ stuff is just nihilism, infantilism, and brutalism. As modern society becomes less bourgeois and respectable and more flattering of itself as more in tune with animal instincts, the more grunting and growling become the modes of communication.
    If indeed science teaches us that we are really just sexual animals and if pop culture urges us to act like animals, then the F-word is what it’s all about. It is sacred because it’s so honestly profane. So, rap culture, cult of excess, slut culture, homo degeneracy, tattoos and piercings, and pornification of even kiddie culture reduces humanity into grunting animals.
    But our society is nothing if not confused and contradictory. So, even as people are told to connect with their true wild animal nature, they are also bullwhipped by PC to watch what they say. So, you can say F***, F***, F***, F***, F***, etc, but don’t you ever say ‘tranny’!!!!

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/18/college-calls-police-on-student-who-said-tranny-on-radio/

    Obscenity and raunchiness are supposedly good because they are liberating and ‘empowering’ of once repressed energies… but Lenny Bruce is no longer okay because his jokes now trigger women and minorities. (I wonder how PC would react to M*A*S*H the movie noawadays. It has men acting like Bill Clinton and Harvey Weinstein, but it was the great counterculture hit of the era.)

    Now, if people are allowed to just be ‘natural’, won’t they act like ‘racist’, ‘sexist’, ‘misogynous’, ‘homophobic’ barbarians since people naturally prefer certain things over others? People are naturally tribal, horny, and dismissive of freaks.
    PC mocks and attacks old repressions/inhibitions and tells people to be wild and free.. but then it notices ‘liberated’ people act in ways that go against globalist agenda — libido doesn’t play by rules of ‘liberalism’ –, and so, people must be shut up or shut down.
    PC is a real clusterfuc* of contradictions. It wants to believe that Nature is synonymous with PC agenda. But of course Nature is not. It says something about America when so many proggy whites allow rap to define the culture but then has Obama, the clean-cut family man negro, be the face of ‘progress’.

    PC is turning people into animal-like apes while also castrating them and sucking out their hormones. It tells people to act bloody crazy but then bleeds them dry and anemic. So, we have the SWPL culture that is totally cool with degeneracy and debauchery.. but its men are such wusses like in the icky movie HER. It tells people to both ‘fuc*’ and cuck.

    With the middle finger at Middle America in the 60s, it’s been a long stage of decline where people are turned into animals. But boomer elites will not admit to this. Instead of trying to turn animals back into humans, the boomer elites further pushed animalization while also pushing castration, hormone therapy, and bleeding. Is it any wonder SJW look both totally animal-like and soy-people-ish? They look barbarous but also anemic.

    When the standards and order break down, no one really believes in anything. BLM, Russia Hacking, Pussy March, and etc. These are all just middle fingers to Middle America. It’s about time SJW’s admitted they are nihilists who believe in nothing(like the Germans in Big Lebowski; that would at least be more honest). Their desecration of monuments is just F-bomb vandalism. It’s just thuggery and nihilism masked with justice.
    In a world of chaos, it’s just F-this and F-that, like with Shep the Indian brute in FARGO.

    Everyone is a ‘fuc*er’. Coens understand the talismanic power that word has. In Jewish school, the kids are learning Hebrew words. But no word or phrase they learn in class, read in books, or hear in Torah lessons on record has the magic power of ‘fuc*’. US should just be called Fuc*eria.

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  195. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Brabantian
    Curious catalogue in the 'Alt-Right' 'Renegade Tribune', article by Roger Mace
    http://www.renegadetribune.com/state-alt-right/
    giving 14 Jewish or Jewish-linked "e-celeb personalities, 'leaders' of the Alternative Right aka Zionist Right", the author Roger Mace commenting -


    No wonder Jewish journalists can’t get enough of this 'movement'!

    Mike Cernovich: Twice admitted to Jewish ancestry, never criticizing Jews

    Mike 'Enoch' Peinovich: Married a Jewess, used to be pro-Israel on his website 'TRS - The Right Stuff'

    Ramsey 'RamZ' Paul: Admits to Jewish ancestry, behaves like an FBI informant, close friends with Jewish journalists, joking about paedophilia

    Milo Yiannopoulos: Jewish, homosexual

    Stefan Molyneux: Jewish, has an obsession with pitting children against their parents

    Andrew 'weev' Auernheimer: Jewish

    Curtis Yavin: Jewish, Zionist supremacist, associated with Peter Thiel

    Richard Spencer: Supports Zionism, rumours about Jewish ancestor

    Alex Jones: Married a Jewess, never criticizes Jews, pushes implausible conspiracy theories that point away from Jews and Deep State operations

    Jared Taylor: Supports Jewish supremacy, ardent Zionist

    Theodore Robert Beale aka 'Vox Day': Supports Israel and Zionism

    Jason Kessler: FBI associate, probably Jewish

    Pax Dickinson: Founder of 'Alt-Right' party with ultra-Zionist Jewish Peter Belau

    Matt Forney: Had Jewish girlfriend Ann Sterzinger

     

    The late Robert Whitaker was, as far as I could tell, a “pro-Zionist” in that he figured that if all Jews went to Israel they’d be out of our hair. The late Rabbi Meir Kahane believed that all Jews and only Jews should live in Israel. (I believe he himself divided his time between Israel and New York.)

    So being pro-Zionist _in that sense_ , like being pro-PR independista, is not only contrary to white nationalism but in harmony with it. The US subsidizing Israel and going to war for it, on the other hand, are insane under any circumstance beyond the extirpation of White America, and for that matter, Black America too (not that we give that much of a care).

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  196. @PhysicistDave
    Actually, the whole business model in the academic world is highly dehumanizing: basically, a Ponzi scheme with human beings as the tokens.

    To be a senior professor, you have to churn out multiple doctoral students, far, far more than the one that would suffice to replace you when you finally retire decades hence.

    So, the young, newly minted Ph.D.s have to engage in a fratricidal struggle to gain tenure. "Publish or perish" -- except truly important contributions to human knowledge are few, far between, and unpredictable. So, you learn to fake it.

    And, you probably still lose to some lucky guy who fakes it a little bit better than the rest of you.

    I'm sure there are lots of biological analogies -- like the sharks that eat their sibs while still inside the mother.

    For anyone who is wondering, no, I got out right after getting my Ph.D. But, I watched the process in fascination when I was a doctoral student and have continued to watch in horrified fascination in the decades since.

    People who could be perfectly good engineers, accountants, or dental assistants waste their lives on this.

    Something is very, very wrong in America.

    And almost no one talks openly about it.

    Thanks for this excellent comment, Dave.

    I think you’ve identified the key theme in the IHE essay: the writer is terrified she’s not going to get tenure, or she’s already been told she won’t.

    Just listen to what she’s really saying:

    I have found few liberal “havens” in academic spaces

    Most of us will be denied tenure

    I led poorly attended workshops

    I found an institution where skepticism permeates discussions of inequality

    Fellow faculty and administrators challenge my fit while also thrusting me into the limelight

    “Stand taller, take up space, remember you belong here” is a mantra I repeat often to myself. Tenure won’t change this, and publications won’t, either.

    Leading to her conclusion:

    I would love to be awarded tenure when the time comes, and I would like to publish social justice research in peer-reviewed journals, but I realize now that may not be my path.

    Since she’s ‘faculty of color’, it’s possible she’s had nothing but spot-light-intensity encouragement and support all the way through school, undergrad degree, and grad school. She’d also have been an attractive diversity hire for many, many colleges, so she may have been courted at that stage, too. She might really be facing the first time in her life she’s had to prove herself. If this is the case, then it’s no wonder she’s panicking.

    The writer’s personal situation fits neatly into current academic narratives:

    ***The writer is off the hook for not producing enough to get tenure, since she’s ‘exhausted’ from dealing with racism.

    ***Her department and institution are off the hook, since they can get rid of her (assuming that’s what they want in this case), but blame institutional racism instead of the writer herself.

    ***Broader academia is off the hook, too. Racism is to blame for the failure of this promising young scholar, rather than the vicious academic ‘Ponzi scheme’ that exploits thousands upon thousands of young (and not so young) academics.

    The big winner is the ongoing social justice/identity politics/affirmative action regime. All of this exhaustion provides the ‘proof’ needed to justify the existence of preferences and rage-based politicking, plus a convenient guilt trip trigger for hapless white people who buy into the whole mess.

    It’s also possible, of course, that the writer will try to use this published piece as leverage to get tenure after all. That would be a Disney-caliber ending in today’s academic environment.

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  197. Svigor says:

    if there were no racism, 90% of blacks would be unemployed, since there’d be no need for affirmative action.

    There has been a 7-digit (now 8-digit) population of employed blacks in this country for a couple of centuries now. That’s not because of ‘affirmative action’.

    Why don’t you make yourself useful and find out 1 how many gov’t employees there are in America (federal, state & local), and 2 the racial breakdown?

    Or how many American Jews marry blacks?

    Each is a serious question.

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    I'm guessing a higher percentage of Jews marry blacks than the white population at large, but that could be wrong. There are a fair number of "bluish" (black/jewish, jewlattos?) celebrities out there, like Slash, Lisa Bonet, Lenny Kravitz.
    , @Art Deco
    Why don’t you make yourself useful and find out 1 how many gov’t employees there are in America (federal, state & local), and 2 the racial breakdown?

    I think it's about 12 million and that about 16% are black, but I'd have to check.
    , @Olorin
    Here's some 2006 numbers for the federal government:

    http://adversity.net/fed_stats/OPM2007/001_blacksFY2006.htm
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  198. MEH 0910 says:
    @Brabantian
    Curious catalogue in the 'Alt-Right' 'Renegade Tribune', article by Roger Mace
    http://www.renegadetribune.com/state-alt-right/
    giving 14 Jewish or Jewish-linked "e-celeb personalities, 'leaders' of the Alternative Right aka Zionist Right", the author Roger Mace commenting -


    No wonder Jewish journalists can’t get enough of this 'movement'!

    Mike Cernovich: Twice admitted to Jewish ancestry, never criticizing Jews

    Mike 'Enoch' Peinovich: Married a Jewess, used to be pro-Israel on his website 'TRS - The Right Stuff'

    Ramsey 'RamZ' Paul: Admits to Jewish ancestry, behaves like an FBI informant, close friends with Jewish journalists, joking about paedophilia

    Milo Yiannopoulos: Jewish, homosexual

    Stefan Molyneux: Jewish, has an obsession with pitting children against their parents

    Andrew 'weev' Auernheimer: Jewish

    Curtis Yavin: Jewish, Zionist supremacist, associated with Peter Thiel

    Richard Spencer: Supports Zionism, rumours about Jewish ancestor

    Alex Jones: Married a Jewess, never criticizes Jews, pushes implausible conspiracy theories that point away from Jews and Deep State operations

    Jared Taylor: Supports Jewish supremacy, ardent Zionist

    Theodore Robert Beale aka 'Vox Day': Supports Israel and Zionism

    Jason Kessler: FBI associate, probably Jewish

    Pax Dickinson: Founder of 'Alt-Right' party with ultra-Zionist Jewish Peter Belau

    Matt Forney: Had Jewish girlfriend Ann Sterzinger

     

    Richard Spencer: Supports Zionism, rumours about Jewish ancestor

    https://you.23andme.com/published/reports/37920f26c710401d/

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    ‘Hispanics’ vs Kurds.

    Of course, it’s whitey’s fault.
     
    When it's the latter against us, would that be Kurds and Whey?

    The menu of the first Kurdish restaurant in the US tells the story of the owner coming to Minnesota because he heard stories of this place with many tall, blond, and beautiful women. Really.

    http://www.babanis.com/about/
    , @CCZ
    Definitely whitey's fault, Overton had engaged in the slave trade and was an adviser to Andrew Jackson. The pain must still be felt. Also explains why Memphis, founded by Overton, is such a “White Supremacy” city.

    John Overton was a trusted friend and adviser to Andrew Jackson and an early Tennessee lawyer, jurist, banker, and political leader. Reputed to be one of the wealthiest men in Tennessee, Overton had engaged in the slave trade and by 1819 had become leader of the powerful Blount-Overton political/banking organization. As a founder of Memphis (1819) on land he owned with Jackson and General James Winchester, Overton devoted a substantial portion of his later years to promoting the new town's growth and development. According to tradition, Overton's last words were of Jackson.

     

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  201. Jack D says:
    @Art Deco
    You have 18 million working blacks, of which about 100,000 are post-secondary teachers in any subject. You have about 1.8 million baccalaureate degrees issued every year, of which fewer than 700 are issued in black studies.

    For the most part, jobs where blacks are abnormally present are mundane wage-earning positions, generally in the service sector (though the occupation where blacks are most common is that of barber; barbers are commonly proprietors). There are about 15 occupations in which blacks are abnormally present which are salaried or which are government wage and of fuzzy utility. Included among them are social workers, school administrators, HR specialists, teachers' aides, &c. Collectively, they encompass about 5.5% of the working black population.

    One is too many.

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    One what? One working black? One social worker? One benefits reviewer? One teacher's aide?
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  202. @Anonymous
    The academic's rhetoric and concept of how the world works show how thoroughly legalism of the lowest bus-bench variety has conquered the mass mind. Payment is no longer seen as something exchanged in return for performing a task, i.e. work (definition: something you couldn't find anyone else to do for free), but is viewed through the lens of entitlement, verdicts, statutory fees, and "damages" compensation. i.e. Pokemon points. I get paid merely for existing in my exquisitely oppressed style and I'm gon' splain it to you how much I deserve that money, etc.

    At least Teh-Genius had to estimate slavery reparations as some convolutes kind of back-wages settlement; the more explicitly female, housewife version just grafts the tollbooth mentality atop that: hey you cracker, I am brave for denouncing your white ways; cuz I'm worth it, ergo pay me, etc. There should be a word for this, along the lines of concern-trolling, humblebrag, crybullying-- maybe "guilt-mining?" Sort of in the way you mine Bitcoins: performing feats of resource-extraction performance art rather than adding value to any good or service.

    “Guilt mining” is a good term for it.

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  203. @anon
    I thought stem cells are the answer to all life’s problems.

    I thought stem cells are the answer to all life’s problems.

    Don’t go anywhere without them.

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  204. @Achmed E. Newman
    Haha... Steve, please get some sleep.

    This SJW Perv-ural Revolution you've been documenting here is putting me in the frame of mind to write another in an up"coming" series of Hans Moleman(?) style warnings:

    Mind you, I've only got the first part, but I gotta go...

    "First they came for the Charlies Angels, but they said nothing until their Moms tore down their Farrah Faucett posters from the inside of their bedroom doors ..."

    Hey, in 1978 my brother and I not only had the classic Farrah poster with the red swimsuit, we also had the one where she’s (sort-of) wearing a white button shirt, while sitting sideways on a chair.

    But, I gotta confess, the Cheryl Tiegs poster was even better: the one where she’s got her her thumb in the side of her bikini still makes me dizzy thinking about it.

    The late 1970′s should be known not for stagflation or the Oil Shocks or the Iranian Crisis but instead as the age of Farrah and Cheryl . . .

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  205. Some good news regarding the state of US education:

    http://www.oecd.org/pisa/pisa-2015-results-volume-v-9789264285521-en.htm

    The US score on collaborative problem solving is actually higher than expected given its PISA score for science, reading and maths.

    I would note with some pride my own country of Singapore tops the rankings by a significant margin. :)

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  206. @JMcG
    I titled mine , “A Lesbian No More.”

    I titled mine , “A Lesbian No More.”

    I can’t help it. I’m a lesbian trapped in a body of a man!

    –Al Franken to Tom Davis in One More Saturday Night (1986)

    Which featured the song, I kid you not, “Upper Mississippi Shakedown”:

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    Well, seeing as how the movie was named after a Grateful Dead song, we should probably deduce that the song's title is a cross between "Mississippi Half Step Uptown Toodleloo" and "Shakedown Street".
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  207. @Anon
    http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/education/2017/11/21/metro-police-respond-large-fight-john-overton-high-school/885750001/


    'Hispanics' vs Kurds.

    Of course, it's whitey's fault.

    ‘Hispanics’ vs Kurds.

    Of course, it’s whitey’s fault.

    When it’s the latter against us, would that be Kurds and Whey?

    The menu of the first Kurdish restaurant in the US tells the story of the owner coming to Minnesota because he heard stories of this place with many tall, blond, and beautiful women. Really.

    http://www.babanis.com/about/

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  208. CCZ says:
    @Anon
    http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/education/2017/11/21/metro-police-respond-large-fight-john-overton-high-school/885750001/


    'Hispanics' vs Kurds.

    Of course, it's whitey's fault.

    Definitely whitey’s fault, Overton had engaged in the slave trade and was an adviser to Andrew Jackson. The pain must still be felt. Also explains why Memphis, founded by Overton, is such a “White Supremacy” city.

    John Overton was a trusted friend and adviser to Andrew Jackson and an early Tennessee lawyer, jurist, banker, and political leader. Reputed to be one of the wealthiest men in Tennessee, Overton had engaged in the slave trade and by 1819 had become leader of the powerful Blount-Overton political/banking organization. As a founder of Memphis (1819) on land he owned with Jackson and General James Winchester, Overton devoted a substantial portion of his later years to promoting the new town’s growth and development. According to tradition, Overton’s last words were of Jackson.

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  209. Neoconned says:
    @Carbon blob
    "My challenge for you is to predict what the end results of this current moral panic will be. Or, how it will play out"

    Legalized, or at least social acceptance of polygamy, while the (50%? 75%?) least attractive men are systematically creep-shamed out of the mating market.

    Blacks and to a point Hispanics already practice common law polygamy….

    The hood gang alphas and dealers father all the children…..now they’re trying to pull that shit on white and Asian girls as the child support noose tightens around their necks…..and they start to shun their own women…..

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  210. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Jawstice

    It’s just zombie-like hunger.

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  211. MBlanc46 says:
    @CCZ
    "I have four words....Cry me a river." Leonard Pitts

    I tried to agree with you, but the Agree button wasn’t working. So I’ll have to agree with you the old-fashioned way.

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  212. 2Mintzin1 says:
    @Steve Sailer
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXKmsvRXE4A

    When I got off the jetliner in Rio de Janeiro in 1978, the Rio airport was playing Grand Funk Railroad as airport music.

    They were sort of the Van Halen of the late 60′s -early 70′s.

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    When my little brother was 14, he played bass in a band they called the New Hope and Ivyland Railroad. Those were the days. I think The Kink Kronikles was released that summer.
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  213. Thirdtwin says:

    One man’s exhaustion is another man’s laziness.

    Imagine how exhausted Obama is.

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  214. @Another Realist
    My kids have been informed by their high school that saying "You can succeed if you work hard enough" is racist. Apparently some people can't succeed no matter how hard they work. Is it because they have lower IQ or did they just not work hard enough? Neither, it's all racism.

    The root of all the blacks' malcontent on college campuses is Affirmative Action, which hurts much more than help them due to academic mismatch. Blacks and hispanics who are admitted to schools where their test scores put them in the bottom 25% are in over their heads. Not surprisingly all they can major in is ethnic studies, which also gives the colleges excuses to hire blacks and hispanics. It's all they're qualified to teach, and learn. Forget STEM, you know they can't hack it it, browns and blacks just can't count, but at elite schools even History or English is too much work or too much stress for their muddled brains.

    The DOJ is now investigating Harvard's admission practices for alleged discrimination against Asian-Americans. I think their time would be better spent by looking into whether AA is helping or hurting blacks. The book "Mismatch" by Sander-Taylor lays out conclusive evidence supporting what common sense has been telling us for years. But then if liberals have any common sense, they wouldn't be liberals.

    The evidence actually overwhelming suggests that to the extent it matters mismatch is mainly caused by sensitivity/specificity errors on academic metrics currently used by elite universities themselves. It’s literally classic regression to the mean.

    In other words, the problem is that the cutoff thresholds themselves are affected by too much noise and random chance and it gets worse for lower performing groups like blacks, because the ratio of individuals truly over the threshold to not is lower.

    There are plenty of blacks with top-notch HS GPAs (grade inflation) or even decent test score metrics, like ACT scores, but there’s always been a lot of bias or random chance going into those. Then of course non-quantitative factors like recommendation letters have horrible predictive validity. So even a black student accepted with high GPA/test scores/etc can be mismatched; that might even be the predominant experience at elite schools, more than athletes or other special cases who at least know their own situation. This leaves less blame on the school/legislature/etc than most think.

    Few understand or accept this thesis because it challenges other unjustified assumptions they have and their bones to pick with political rivals. Remember that shifting to better quality, objective academic metrics (like raw scores on broader exams from say AP subjects) which would ameliorate the above effects for all races and genders would also be a massive hit to other privileged groups and classes. It’s not just the blacks, there would be a huge loss for “athletes” and the like in elite schools compared to the “nerds.”

    To a large extent the annoying war for/against affirmative action is insane because it’s just a smokescreen for not fixing the above issue, which, while it might not be a Pareto improvement, it can at least be said it would create massive economic gains and other popularly desirable results for the country.

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    In other words, the problem is that the cutoff thresholds themselves are affected by too much noise and random chance and it gets worse for lower performing groups like blacks, because the ratio of individuals truly over the threshold to not is lower.
     
    La Griffe du Lion talked about this long ago.
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  215. @Whiskey
    There is no end of ways in which most White middle and upper class women are the eternal enemy of the 90% of White men not alpha. Or ... hate hate hate them.

    Fast fact: Billy the Kid spoke Irish.

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  216. guest says:
    @anonymous

    I think being pedantic about forms of pedantry is funny.
     
    One could be amused by others "being pedantic about forms of pedantry" but to actually find it funny. ... OMG! You're a sociopath!

    No, not about others, but about myself “being pedantic about forms of pedantry.”

    I was being tongue-in-cheek with my “pedant-manque” post above. Because I think it’s funny to be overly concerned with semantic details of various forms of pedantry. Pedantry itself in one sense being excessive concern with detail.

    Now that you mention it, other people being pedantic about pedantry would be funny.

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  217. guest says:
    @Anonymous
    The academic's rhetoric and concept of how the world works show how thoroughly legalism of the lowest bus-bench variety has conquered the mass mind. Payment is no longer seen as something exchanged in return for performing a task, i.e. work (definition: something you couldn't find anyone else to do for free), but is viewed through the lens of entitlement, verdicts, statutory fees, and "damages" compensation. i.e. Pokemon points. I get paid merely for existing in my exquisitely oppressed style and I'm gon' splain it to you how much I deserve that money, etc.

    At least Teh-Genius had to estimate slavery reparations as some convolutes kind of back-wages settlement; the more explicitly female, housewife version just grafts the tollbooth mentality atop that: hey you cracker, I am brave for denouncing your white ways; cuz I'm worth it, ergo pay me, etc. There should be a word for this, along the lines of concern-trolling, humblebrag, crybullying-- maybe "guilt-mining?" Sort of in the way you mine Bitcoins: performing feats of resource-extraction performance art rather than adding value to any good or service.

    I think it’s less inspired by law than by the welfare state and its associated “entitlements.”

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  218. guest says:
    @Sane Left Libertarian
    While I will admit that most people who teach academic subjects like STEM, literature, and accounting actually DO roll their eyes at professors of Victim Studies, the academy has provided provided thousands of new jobs for people like the author. She's lying or completely clueless when she says, "most of us won't make tenure". Since the college likely must have a diverse faculty, and there are almost no black females getting PhD's in science and such, she's nearly a cinch for tenure. OTOH maybe she would find cleaning houses or working at WalMart for $12/hr less "exhausting" than fighting microaggressions day and night.

    Do we really need literature, though? I’m not convinced it’s built itself into an actual discipline, much less one our civilization needs to subsidize.

    Used to be, they only bothered with the classics and other old-timey stuff, then modern languages. But not until relatively recently was it decided people needed instruction in and study of literature written in their own tongue. Which, unless it’s deliberately obscure like Funnyman’s Wake or whatever, is open with a little effort to be read by anyone who knows the language. Anyone who knows English can read that stuff on their own if they want. They can’t build a bridge on their own, however. That requires studying engineering.

    Which isn’t to say literary scholarship is all bunk, or to ignite all the great literature written about literature. I’m just wondering if we need to pay for it or force adults to read it.

    The only question would be when language becomes old enough. Renaissance English was described by a professor of mine as “the easiest foreign language you’ll ever learn,” which was an exaggeration. Shakespeare’s not like reading Beowulf, and if frontier peasants could do it I can too.

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  219. Taco says:
    @Art Deco
    People who tell you they have a handle on the quality of dissertations across a dozen different fields in 1948 and on quality today nearly all have one thing in common: they're lying to themselves if they're not lying to you.

    Across an array of professions, the ratio of practitioners to annual degree awards at this time is as follows:

    Architecture: 28 (master's the denominator)
    Engineering: 16.5 (bachelor's the denominator)
    Dentistry: 21
    Optometry: 24
    Pharmacy: 21 (PharmD)
    Medicine: 27.5 (M.D. and D.O)
    Physical Therapy: 20.5 (DPT)
    Veterinary medicine: 24
    Law: 17 (JD)
    Clergy: 3.5 (M. Div)
    Psychology: 24.5 (PhD. and PsyD. - 23% of working psychologists are post-secondary teachers)
    Physics: 17 (PhD, 46% are post-secondary teachers)
    Chemistry: 37 (PhD, 19% are post-secondary teachers)
    Sociology: 22.5 (PhD, incl urban studies; 84% are post-secondary teachers)
    Economics: 28.5 (PhD, 40% are postsecondary teachers)
    Anthropology: 20.5 (PhD, 47% are postsecondary teachers)
    History: 25 (PhD, 88% are postsecondary teachers)
    Philosophy / Comparative Religion: 30.5 (PhD, all postsecondary teachers)
    English: 48 (PhD, all are postsecondary teachers)

    Caveats: postsecondary teachers tend to work about 70% time on average and about 1/4 work for community colleges, for which a research degree might be somewhat de trop (though very common). The other is that the denominator is the number awarded in 2015, not the mean number awarded since 1982 or thereabouts, which would be more valid.

    People who tell you they have a handle on the quality of dissertations across a dozen different fields in 1948 and on quality today nearly all have one thing in common: they’re lying to themselves if they’re not lying to you.

    Across an array of professions, the ratio of practitioners to annual degree awards at this time is as follows:

    [etc]

    At least for law (btw, no dissertation is required for a JD) this is very misleading. I don’t care what the ratio of practioners to annual graduates to professors is; the number of law graduates every year is substantially higher than the number of legal jobs that become available every year.

    Honestly, why is the ratio of practitioners to graduates important in any way? If AI takes off all of a sudden, we would expect the ratio of “robotics” practitioners to “robotics” graduates to be, at least initially, severely out of whack (perhaps something like 1-to-100 until supply caught up with demand). Similarly, an over saturated field like law consistently has too many graduates, despite a large number of practitioners.

    I don’t even know if your other premises are wrong, but your arguments are completely orthogonal to the point.

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    Honestly, why is the ratio of practitioners to graduates important in any way?

    It's a rough indicator of the oversupply of new entrants in a given profession (though if it's an occupation with high rates of burnout, the situation may be less disagreeable than appears).

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  220. Mr. Anon says:
    @anon
    Jack D. & Art Deco sometimes shine each others turds. Sad.

    Jack D is a smart guy, and usually has something interesting to say. I don’t agree with him all the time, but is opinion is valuable.

    Art Deco’s posts are worthless – the equivalent of graffitti.

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  221. Mr. Anon says:
    @anon

    So, no, they aren’t the equivalent of community colleges
     
    He didn’t say they were equivalent. Why misquote the man? This is why people hate you.

    Not true. There are lots of reasons why people hate him.

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  222. @Reg Cæsar

    I titled mine , “A Lesbian No More.”
     
    I can't help it. I'm a lesbian trapped in a body of a man!

    --Al Franken to Tom Davis in One More Saturday Night (1986)

    Which featured the song, I kid you not, "Upper Mississippi Shakedown":

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy0vPnFKR5A

    Well, seeing as how the movie was named after a Grateful Dead song, we should probably deduce that the song’s title is a cross between “Mississippi Half Step Uptown Toodleloo” and “Shakedown Street”.

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  223. @Krastos the Gluemaker
    The evidence actually overwhelming suggests that to the extent it matters mismatch is mainly caused by sensitivity/specificity errors on academic metrics currently used by elite universities themselves. It's literally classic regression to the mean.

    In other words, the problem is that the cutoff thresholds themselves are affected by too much noise and random chance and it gets worse for lower performing groups like blacks, because the ratio of individuals truly over the threshold to not is lower.

    There are plenty of blacks with top-notch HS GPAs (grade inflation) or even decent test score metrics, like ACT scores, but there's always been a lot of bias or random chance going into those. Then of course non-quantitative factors like recommendation letters have horrible predictive validity. So even a black student accepted with high GPA/test scores/etc can be mismatched; that might even be the predominant experience at elite schools, more than athletes or other special cases who at least know their own situation. This leaves less blame on the school/legislature/etc than most think.

    Few understand or accept this thesis because it challenges other unjustified assumptions they have and their bones to pick with political rivals. Remember that shifting to better quality, objective academic metrics (like raw scores on broader exams from say AP subjects) which would ameliorate the above effects for all races and genders would also be a massive hit to other privileged groups and classes. It's not just the blacks, there would be a huge loss for "athletes" and the like in elite schools compared to the "nerds."

    To a large extent the annoying war for/against affirmative action is insane because it's just a smokescreen for not fixing the above issue, which, while it might not be a Pareto improvement, it can at least be said it would create massive economic gains and other popularly desirable results for the country.

    In other words, the problem is that the cutoff thresholds themselves are affected by too much noise and random chance and it gets worse for lower performing groups like blacks, because the ratio of individuals truly over the threshold to not is lower.

    La Griffe du Lion talked about this long ago.

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  224. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Svigor

    if there were no racism, 90% of blacks would be unemployed, since there’d be no need for affirmative action.

    There has been a 7-digit (now 8-digit) population of employed blacks in this country for a couple of centuries now. That’s not because of ‘affirmative action’.
     
    Why don't you make yourself useful and find out 1 how many gov't employees there are in America (federal, state & local), and 2 the racial breakdown?

    Or how many American Jews marry blacks?

    Each is a serious question.

    I’m guessing a higher percentage of Jews marry blacks than the white population at large, but that could be wrong. There are a fair number of “bluish” (black/jewish, jewlattos?) celebrities out there, like Slash, Lisa Bonet, Lenny Kravitz.

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  225. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Art Deco
    We can listen to one guy who knows physics has gone to the dogs, and another who knows English is in the crapper, and a third who swears education is down the drain.

    Except you're not going to find that. You'll find complaints that the humanities and some of the social research disciplines have been injured. And the complaints will not be universal across practitioners or universal in scope. I recently saw someone contend that '70%' of the PhD's awarded were too low in quality to have passed muster in the immediate post-war period. Of course, he doesn't know that. He's just a jack-wagon who makes brazen remarks on a dozen different subjects. I can tell you that what was considered acceptable frequency of faculty publication in 1963 would never pass muster today (and that actually is a verifiable datum).

    “[A]cceptable frequency of faculty publication” is an utterly asinine metric.

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    Mentally exhausting because so dumb.

    But hilarious too.

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  227. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Art Deco
    Those other 1950 institutions are receiving losers, not winners, in the economics phd game. Sure, they got their degree, tenure, and are teaching indifferent undergrads, but the winners are the professors at phd granting instituitons. The others are just a little better than community colleges.

    The median compensation for an economics professor is $96,000 a year plus benefits, exceeding that of chemistry teachers by about $20,000 a year. Good fringes and your pension is portable. Teaching institutions are to be found at all strata of selectivity and many faculty are perfectly happy to be there.

    As for community colleges, about 40% of their degrees are in academics and arts but in excess of 85% of such degrees are not in a discrete discipline. They are grab bags of courses for those attempting to prepare for a 4 year college. North of 90% of the undergraduate degrees in social science and history are baccalaureate degrees. Associate's degrees in economics are so unusual that the federal Education Department does not report the figures. They do report figures for associate's in history. These number 400-odd as against 30,000 baccalaureate degrees awarded in history each year.

    So, no, they aren't the equivalent of community colleges.

    “The median compensation for an economics professor is $96,000 a year plus benefits”

    I have very little doubt that this is nonsense. Utter BS. Provide a source. Show evidence that the class of persons identified as “economics professors” for purposes of this claim aligns closely with the class of persons that most Americans with college experience would identify as “economics professors”. As Trump would say: “FAKE NEWS!”

    This is the sort of deep lie that encourages a wide swath of well-meaning American parents to hand over vast swaths of money to the corrupt institutions now masquerading as centers of learning. It is a deeply pernicious lie.

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    Okay, is it higher or lower than $96,000?
    , @Art Deco
    That's from the Bureau of Labor Statistics 'employment by occupation' data set. Very readily accessible on the BLS site. That's the median figure. As a general rule, about 1/2 of all faculty members are f/t and half are p/t. Not sure what the shares are in economics as a discipline. The mean figure is about $20,000 a year higher.
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  228. @Anonymous
    "The median compensation for an economics professor is $96,000 a year plus benefits"

    I have very little doubt that this is nonsense. Utter BS. Provide a source. Show evidence that the class of persons identified as "economics professors" for purposes of this claim aligns closely with the class of persons that most Americans with college experience would identify as "economics professors". As Trump would say: "FAKE NEWS!"

    This is the sort of deep lie that encourages a wide swath of well-meaning American parents to hand over vast swaths of money to the corrupt institutions now masquerading as centers of learning. It is a deeply pernicious lie.

    Okay, is it higher or lower than $96,000?

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    I think it is lower. I think that the "salary" reports for "professors" are routinely manipulated since university administrations have both the power and the incentive to portray their "professors" as well paid and dedicated professionals dedicated to the cultivation of their students. On some level, I have NO DOUBT that this is true. What I don't know are the details, and I also don't know whether the way that this works is the same in all settings. Probably it is not.

    I don't think there are objective facts here, since there are no objective facts about who is really a "professor". (Of course there are objective facts about who gets paid what, and what titles they have, and what degrees they have, and what their status at the university is. But most people, when thinking about "professors", aren't thinking about these things.)

    A university might count only a "full professor", that is, a tenured professor, as a professor. A university might count only tenure-track professors as professors. A university might count only full-time professors as professors. A university might count only those whose job title includes "professor" as professors (excluding "lecturers" and "instructors"). A university might arbitrarily exclude all students from the "professor" category, even if some students also have paid employment as "professors". A clever person can keep thinking of new options. A university might report professorial emolument by student/class, so that each student in a class "taught" by a $200K/year prof counts as $200K/year, whereas each of the 28 students in the class taught by the adjunct assistant prof earning $3K/class gets that recorded.

    Are they any standards here? I don't think so. They are certainly not discussed in the MSM discussions of "best colleges", which routinely (I think) use professorial payment as one of their standards of judgement.

    I do not think I have ever seen anything approaching an adequate investigation of this topic.

    I have taught as a full-time non-TT "professor" at multiple highly selective schools that everyone, by normal standards, will recognize as among the top in the US. I have also taught, while a grad student, while holding a job with "professor" in the title, in a department that was ranked, by some criterion, as #1 in the US in my field.

    My field is not economics, which for many reasons is probably more lucrative than many, so my judgement could be quite off. I grant that there is some chance that my numerical claims are way off base, but I suspect that would almost certainly be because I fail to grasp the wage differences between disciplines. Even if these wage differences are far more extreme than I suspect, my basic suspicions remain. And I have little doubt that extreme manipulation is routine.
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  229. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Okay, is it higher or lower than $96,000?

    I think it is lower. I think that the “salary” reports for “professors” are routinely manipulated since university administrations have both the power and the incentive to portray their “professors” as well paid and dedicated professionals dedicated to the cultivation of their students. On some level, I have NO DOUBT that this is true. What I don’t know are the details, and I also don’t know whether the way that this works is the same in all settings. Probably it is not.

    I don’t think there are objective facts here, since there are no objective facts about who is really a “professor”. (Of course there are objective facts about who gets paid what, and what titles they have, and what degrees they have, and what their status at the university is. But most people, when thinking about “professors”, aren’t thinking about these things.)

    A university might count only a “full professor”, that is, a tenured professor, as a professor. A university might count only tenure-track professors as professors. A university might count only full-time professors as professors. A university might count only those whose job title includes “professor” as professors (excluding “lecturers” and “instructors”). A university might arbitrarily exclude all students from the “professor” category, even if some students also have paid employment as “professors”. A clever person can keep thinking of new options. A university might report professorial emolument by student/class, so that each student in a class “taught” by a $200K/year prof counts as $200K/year, whereas each of the 28 students in the class taught by the adjunct assistant prof earning $3K/class gets that recorded.

    Are they any standards here? I don’t think so. They are certainly not discussed in the MSM discussions of “best colleges”, which routinely (I think) use professorial payment as one of their standards of judgement.

    I do not think I have ever seen anything approaching an adequate investigation of this topic.

    I have taught as a full-time non-TT “professor” at multiple highly selective schools that everyone, by normal standards, will recognize as among the top in the US. I have also taught, while a grad student, while holding a job with “professor” in the title, in a department that was ranked, by some criterion, as #1 in the US in my field.

    My field is not economics, which for many reasons is probably more lucrative than many, so my judgement could be quite off. I grant that there is some chance that my numerical claims are way off base, but I suspect that would almost certainly be because I fail to grasp the wage differences between disciplines. Even if these wage differences are far more extreme than I suspect, my basic suspicions remain. And I have little doubt that extreme manipulation is routine.

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    Economists often have alternative employment possibilities, such as consulting, so I suspect they get paid more than most.

    At Harvard, the highest paid professors are some medical researchers followed by prominent Harvard Business School professors. The highest paid prof at regular Harvard College is Roland Fryer, the black economist who does a lot of studies with Steven Freakonomics Levitt on issues in the news. He's at about $600k. He brings in a lot of donations from guys like Michael Bloomberg to pay for his experiments.

    , @Art Deco
    I think it is lower. I

    I take it you were disappointed with your salary and have been disappointed with your career prospects. That's not the problem of the Bureau of Labor Statistics or the Census Bureau.
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  230. @Anonymous
    I think it is lower. I think that the "salary" reports for "professors" are routinely manipulated since university administrations have both the power and the incentive to portray their "professors" as well paid and dedicated professionals dedicated to the cultivation of their students. On some level, I have NO DOUBT that this is true. What I don't know are the details, and I also don't know whether the way that this works is the same in all settings. Probably it is not.

    I don't think there are objective facts here, since there are no objective facts about who is really a "professor". (Of course there are objective facts about who gets paid what, and what titles they have, and what degrees they have, and what their status at the university is. But most people, when thinking about "professors", aren't thinking about these things.)

    A university might count only a "full professor", that is, a tenured professor, as a professor. A university might count only tenure-track professors as professors. A university might count only full-time professors as professors. A university might count only those whose job title includes "professor" as professors (excluding "lecturers" and "instructors"). A university might arbitrarily exclude all students from the "professor" category, even if some students also have paid employment as "professors". A clever person can keep thinking of new options. A university might report professorial emolument by student/class, so that each student in a class "taught" by a $200K/year prof counts as $200K/year, whereas each of the 28 students in the class taught by the adjunct assistant prof earning $3K/class gets that recorded.

    Are they any standards here? I don't think so. They are certainly not discussed in the MSM discussions of "best colleges", which routinely (I think) use professorial payment as one of their standards of judgement.

    I do not think I have ever seen anything approaching an adequate investigation of this topic.

    I have taught as a full-time non-TT "professor" at multiple highly selective schools that everyone, by normal standards, will recognize as among the top in the US. I have also taught, while a grad student, while holding a job with "professor" in the title, in a department that was ranked, by some criterion, as #1 in the US in my field.

    My field is not economics, which for many reasons is probably more lucrative than many, so my judgement could be quite off. I grant that there is some chance that my numerical claims are way off base, but I suspect that would almost certainly be because I fail to grasp the wage differences between disciplines. Even if these wage differences are far more extreme than I suspect, my basic suspicions remain. And I have little doubt that extreme manipulation is routine.

    Economists often have alternative employment possibilities, such as consulting, so I suspect they get paid more than most.

    At Harvard, the highest paid professors are some medical researchers followed by prominent Harvard Business School professors. The highest paid prof at regular Harvard College is Roland Fryer, the black economist who does a lot of studies with Steven Freakonomics Levitt on issues in the news. He’s at about $600k. He brings in a lot of donations from guys like Michael Bloomberg to pay for his experiments.

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  231. @Anonymouse
    What field did you get your Ph.D. in and where?

    Earning a Ph.D. in a serious subject is a great honor and a great gift even if one is not employed in academia.

    There are unemployed Ph.D.'s who write papers and get them published in refereed journals. The term of art for these losers is "unaffiliated."

    Anonymouse wrote to me:

    What field did you get your Ph.D. in and where?

    Stanford, physics.

    I spent a summer working for a Nobel laureate (Burt Richter) and my thesis involved working with another Nobelist (Marty Perl).

    You’d think I’d be golden, eh?

    Well… I inadvertently stumbled upon serious scientific fraud by several faculty members: I did not try to or want to publicize the fraud, but, you could say, I just knew too much. They wanted me out of the field.

    Perhaps it also did not help my career prospects that I had written a column for the campus paper mildly critical of the state of Israel.

    Incidentally, Perl and Richter were, as far as I could see, good guys — they were not the ones involved in the fraud. And, one of the more supportive people happened to be a fellow doctoral student who was an Israeli. He was actually okay with me criticizing the Israeli government (after all, Israelis do it, loudly, all the time). Some other people, not so much.

    Anonymouse also wrote:

    There are unemployed Ph.D.’s who write papers and get them published in refereed journals. The term of art for these losers is “unaffiliated.”

    For various reasons, I have been scanning a lot of physics papers recently: haven’t seen a single one by, as you put it, one of these “unaffiliated” losers.

    The publication thing for the academic world has been for at least forty years just a way of racking up points for the old CV. My thesis advisor actually strongly advised me against reading the leading journals on the grounds that most of what they published was garbage — I read them anyway but confirmed he was right.

    I could go on and on giving specific examples, but I do not suppose that would convince anyone who is currently engulfed in the morass.

    It really is sad: a lot of reasonably bright (though most are not quite as bright as they think they are!) people wasting their lives.

    (Incidentally, I am referring to the areas that are usually called “arts and sciences”: math, natural sciences, humanities, social sciences, etc. I know less about professional schools such as business and engineering: since they have easy alternatives in the real world, perhaps things are not quite as bad there. Others can address those areas.)

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  232. snorlax says:
    @Art Deco
    Of course, the quality of most Ph.D.s has declined dramatically,


    Just north of 30,000 research doctorates are awarded in academic subjects each year. There would be another bloc in vocational subjects (engineering, public policy &c). No, you didn't read a sample of the dissertations and no you cannot have much critical engagement with more than a small fraction of the dissertations submitted.

    I’ve met enough (education[1]|sociology|cultural anthropology|* studies|…[2]) PhDs that I don’t need to read their dissertations to say they aren’t exactly a group of intellectual heavyweights.

    Then there are all the fields that do attract some smart people but the field itself is complete bullshit, including but hardly limited to (psychology|economics|climatology|linguistics)[3].

    I hardly even need mention there’s a strong inverse correlation between the rigor of a PhD program and the likelihood a degree-holder insists on the title “Dr.”

    [1] Which, IIRC, alone accounts for more than half of new “PhDs.”

    [2] I recently met a student of “cartography,” which I had thought was just an absurd joke Arrested Development had made up. The program, which seemed to revolve around excuses to go on rich kid vacations and very occasionally drawing woke redlining/magic dirt maps, did not seem particularly rigorous.

    [3] Whose corresponding non-bullshit disciplines are (psychiatry|quantitative analysis|meteorology|natural language processing). Note that the non-bullshitters typically employ or have academic backgrounds in precisely zero (0) of the bullshit publications and theories.

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    I hope you aren't referring to Jill Biden. She's so smart and dreamy.
    , @Art Deco
    Again, about 55,000 research doctorates are currently being awarded each year. That excludes the issue of the schools of education (which sometimes offer research degrees). At the most granular level of classification, the following account for about 1/2. Between 480 and 2,700 degrees were awarded in these disciplines during the 2014-15 academic year. They're in descending order of commonality.

    Chemistry, general
    Electrical and electronics engineering
    Psychology, general
    Physics, general
    Business administration and management, general
    Mechanical engineering
    English language and literature, general
    Mathematics, general
    Economics, general
    Bioengineering and biomedical engineering
    Chemical engineering
    Civil engineering, general
    Biology/biological sciences, general
    Computer science
    History, general
    Agriculture, agriculture operations, and related sciences
    Political science and government, general
    Sociology
    Computer and information sciences, general
    Materials engineering
    Neuroscience
    Music, general
    Anthropology
    Biochemistry
    Theology/theological studies
    Biomedical sciences, general
    , @Jim Don Bob

    I hardly even need mention there’s a strong inverse correlation between the rigor of a PhD program and the likelihood a degree-holder insists on the title “Dr.”
     
    Yep. Every high school principal with a PhD in Education insists on being addressed as Doctor. So does Jill Biden.
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  233. Logan says:
    @Art Deco
    We can listen to one guy who knows physics has gone to the dogs, and another who knows English is in the crapper, and a third who swears education is down the drain.

    Except you're not going to find that. You'll find complaints that the humanities and some of the social research disciplines have been injured. And the complaints will not be universal across practitioners or universal in scope. I recently saw someone contend that '70%' of the PhD's awarded were too low in quality to have passed muster in the immediate post-war period. Of course, he doesn't know that. He's just a jack-wagon who makes brazen remarks on a dozen different subjects. I can tell you that what was considered acceptable frequency of faculty publication in 1963 would never pass muster today (and that actually is a verifiable datum).

    A dozen subjects? What a loser!

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    A dozen subjects? What a loser!
     
    Yes, imagine that. Somebody who solemnly pronounces expert opinions in a dozen fields (or more!) with a haughty tone that bespeaks his own self-conception of infallibillity. Do we know anyone like that around here? Why,.......the fellow must be an insufferable 'jack-wagon'.
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  234. dr kill says:
    @2Mintzin1
    They were sort of the Van Halen of the late 60's -early 70's.

    When my little brother was 14, he played bass in a band they called the New Hope and Ivyland Railroad. Those were the days. I think The Kink Kronikles was released that summer.

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  235. dr kill says:
    @snorlax
    I've met enough (education[1]|sociology|cultural anthropology|* studies|...[2]) PhDs that I don't need to read their dissertations to say they aren't exactly a group of intellectual heavyweights.

    Then there are all the fields that do attract some smart people but the field itself is complete bullshit, including but hardly limited to (psychology|economics|climatology|linguistics)[3].

    I hardly even need mention there's a strong inverse correlation between the rigor of a PhD program and the likelihood a degree-holder insists on the title "Dr."

    [1] Which, IIRC, alone accounts for more than half of new "PhDs."

    [2] I recently met a student of "cartography," which I had thought was just an absurd joke Arrested Development had made up. The program, which seemed to revolve around excuses to go on rich kid vacations and very occasionally drawing woke redlining/magic dirt maps, did not seem particularly rigorous.

    [3] Whose corresponding non-bullshit disciplines are (psychiatry|quantitative analysis|meteorology|natural language processing). Note that the non-bullshitters typically employ or have academic backgrounds in precisely zero (0) of the bullshit publications and theories.

    I hope you aren’t referring to Jill Biden. She’s so smart and dreamy.

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  236. Svigor says:

    Rotgut:

    There is no end of ways in which most White middle and upper class women are the eternal enemy of the 90% of White men not alpha. Or … hate hate hate them.

    Jews seem to be a much better fit for “eternal enemy” to White Men than White Women do, but then, I’m heterosexual.

    Just figured I’d put the silliness (“eternal enemy,” and “hate hate hate”) of your rhetoric into proper context.

    I mean, if it’s cute to say it about White Women, then surely it’s cute to say about Jews.

    P.S., middle and upper class White women are the enemy, but lower class women are hunkey-dorey?

    Corvanus:

    Mueller’s findings is more than about apparent Russian hacking of the election–it certainly appears that it’s money laundering, bribery, and a whole lot more.

    The term you’re looking for is “fishing expedition.” IIRC, they’re unethical, or illegal, or maybe both.

    Behold a member of the Coalition of the Left Fringe presenting a narrative by an “anonymous professor of color” that normies generally shaking their head at “racial battle fatigue”, with that narrative touted by Mr. Sailor as being held by mainstream liberals and “bad” whites (or is it “good” whites, I struggle with keeping up the proper verbiage).

    You have made the last bit very, very clear, over your tenure here. In fact, you make it eminently clear with your preceding, quoted composition. There was absolutely no need to point it out.

    Which is quite interesting how the normally perceptive Mr. Sailer is steering clear with his own “noticings” about the several ongoing investigations of Trump and his cohorts.

    You’re here buddy. And you’re a left-wing liar moderate, so you can tell us all about it. The rest of us got tired of waiting for months while Big Media shat out the same rumors and innuendo over and over, with 0 proof. Only left wing mopes staunch centrists like you have the patience to wait at Big Media’s table for months, hoping for a crumb to fall off and into their mouths.

    Some other guy:

    “My challenge for you is to predict what the end results of this current moral panic will be. Or, how it will play out”

    Legalized, or at least social acceptance of polygamy, while the (50%? 75%?) least attractive men are systematically creep-shamed out of the mating market.

    So, did Islam enshrine polygamy because it’s what women want and Islam caters to the wants and needs of women, is wymminhood untrammeled, etc., or…

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    Formatting error; that should be:

    You’re here buddy. And you’re a left-wing liar moderate, so you can tell us all about it. The rest of us got tired of waiting for months while Big Media shat out the same rumors and innuendo over and over, with 0 proof. Only left wing mopes staunch centrists like you have the patience to wait at Big Media’s table for months, hoping for a crumb to fall off and into their mouths.

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  238. Svigor says:

    I’m guessing a higher percentage of Jews marry blacks than the white population at large, but that could be wrong. There are a fair number of “bluish” (black/jewish, jewlattos?) celebrities out there, like Slash, Lisa Bonet, Lenny Kravitz.

    1 Jews are as leftist an American demo as there is, this side of blacks. Super into “anti-racism.” Super pro-black. The two groups are political allies; Jews love promoting blacks, whitewashing them in Big Media, waxing nostalgic about the Jewish Freedom Riders and Jewish anti-Apartheid activists, sniffing black athletes’ jocks, founding the NAACP, allying with Black Panthers, etc. They also love calling Whites racist and intolerant.

    2 Jews are very into Jews. Jews are also very into Jewish stats. They count how many Jews there are, how many are being born or dying, how educated they are, how rich they are, how famous they are, their fields medals, their Nobel prizes, which celebs or historical figures are Jewish, etc., etc., etc. They also keep close track of how many are marrying out of the tribe or the religion. Nobody else does this, but Jews are really into it.

    IMO, these combine to make the good guess the opposite of yours. If Jews were marrying blacks at a rate higher than Whites, I think we would have heard about it. It would show that Jews are more anti-racist, more tolerant, than Whites. That Jews put their money where there mouth is. It’s not as if the Jewish bean-counters don’t know these numbers; they almost certainly do. But they don’t release them. I’ve done a fair bit of looking, and never seen mention of this stat. As if it doesn’t exist in the minds of Jews.

    It probably doesn’t exist in the minds of Jews, because the bean-counters gatekeeping the info know that the rate is actually lower for Jews. Probably enough so that it’s embarrassing, and thus kept secret, and thus unmentioned.

    Slash, Bonet, Kravitz, and Drake are not a fair number; they’re four people.

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    "Nobody else does this, but Jews are really into it"

    Well, there used to be such things as social registers and Who's Who. There probably still are. But mostly you're right. WASPs hearts aren't in it any more. If they even self-identify anymore.

    Meanwhile, the website Jew or Not Jew was created by--you guessed it--Jews.
    , @kaganovitch
    "It probably doesn’t exist in the minds of Jews, because the bean-counters gatekeeping the info know that the rate is actually lower for Jews."

    Haven't found marriage rates yet but fwiw interracial dating is higher among Jews. I don't know if the article separates Asian from Black cohorts, will try to check over the weekend.

    http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0192513X14555766?journalCode=jfia
    , @kaganovitch
    Also interracial marriage is largely an urban phenomenon in the USA, thus Jews likely to be over represented.
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  239. “I raced toward my Ph.D. in search of social protection, professional stability and financial freedom.”

    As opposed to, say, satisfying an unquenchable thirst to know; or seeking to make a worthwhile and lasting contribution to human knowledge.

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  240. Corvinus says:
    @neutral
    Right, because the likes of Schumer, McCain, Graham, etc, hate Trump more than they support Israel... You honestly think that that the likes of AIPAC are going to want their back door dealings make the main news of CNN???

    “Right, because the likes of Schumer, McCain, Graham, etc, hate Trump more than they support Israel…”

    Right, because the Jewish cabal is everywhere and anywhere, lying in wait to jooify their next victim.

    “You honestly think that that the likes of AIPAC are going to want their back door dealings make the main news of CNN???”

    You honestly think that the likes of Trump and his crew are going to want their machinations exposed?
    And that Mueller is merely but a puppet of Jews?

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  241. @anon
    You wouldn't think so. But I believe the Ann Sterzinger story. You ought to read Ann Sterzinger sometime, and see if you don't believe it after that.

    That whole relationship, which you can Google about if you want, sounds like outtakes from some weird "artistic" movie about miserable people working to make each other more miserable, but that is really just an experiment to gross out the audience. Like "Se7en" or Lars von Trier's "Antichrist" or something like that.

    Wow. Thanks for sending me down a really depressing rabbit hole.

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  242. Clyde says:
    @PNW_mossback
    I read the full article and the language looked very familiar - I'd seen a lot of it before.

    How about:
    Expertise: media arts, media and film, experimental media

    Related Subjects: Cultural Studies, Media and Film, Media Arts


    I'm not absolutely certain, but this may be the author. Lots more on Youtube.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doUn0WY33YU

    I think you are joking. That shemale beast is not her but a specimen similar to her. Of course that fugly parasite is ripping off Washington State taxpayers via her professorship in bllsht “studies” of some kind. The first order of socialism and SWJism is plundering the public treasury for you, your family (extreme nepotism) and your friends.

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  243. Mr. Anon says:
    @Forbes

    when I accepted my first tenure-track position
     
    How many tenure tracks has she been on...

    How many tenure tracks has she been on…

    Getting more than one bite at that apple is itself a form of privilege that she has, and probably by virtue of her victim-status. From what I have heard, in technical fields at least, being denied tenure is a huge black-mark on your CV that makes it all but impossible to ever be considered for a tenure-track position again.

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  244. Mr. Anon says:
    @Logan
    A dozen subjects? What a loser!

    A dozen subjects? What a loser!

    Yes, imagine that. Somebody who solemnly pronounces expert opinions in a dozen fields (or more!) with a haughty tone that bespeaks his own self-conception of infallibillity. Do we know anyone like that around here? Why,…….the fellow must be an insufferable ‘jack-wagon’.

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  245. Art Deco says:
    @Jack D
    One is too many.

    One what? One working black? One social worker? One benefits reviewer? One teacher’s aide?

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    1 Black studies professor, I assume.
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  246. Art Deco says:
    @Anonymous
    "The median compensation for an economics professor is $96,000 a year plus benefits"

    I have very little doubt that this is nonsense. Utter BS. Provide a source. Show evidence that the class of persons identified as "economics professors" for purposes of this claim aligns closely with the class of persons that most Americans with college experience would identify as "economics professors". As Trump would say: "FAKE NEWS!"

    This is the sort of deep lie that encourages a wide swath of well-meaning American parents to hand over vast swaths of money to the corrupt institutions now masquerading as centers of learning. It is a deeply pernicious lie.

    That’s from the Bureau of Labor Statistics ‘employment by occupation’ data set. Very readily accessible on the BLS site. That’s the median figure. As a general rule, about 1/2 of all faculty members are f/t and half are p/t. Not sure what the shares are in economics as a discipline. The mean figure is about $20,000 a year higher.

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    Thanks, I'll look into that. I respect people even if I think they are seriously misguided, so long as they are willing to consider criticism.

    A few substantive thoughts:

    The mean figure strikes me as dubious. My own sense is that the mean/median disparity would be greater. I don't mean to disparage hard numbers at all, but if people with the power and incentive to "cook the books" control the data, there is reason to distrust the numbers.

    If half of "faculty members" are acknowledged to be "part time" then this strikes me as allowing great opportunities for manipulation.

    I would not be surprised if the BLS is effectively colluding in the manipulation of data.

    One basic problem: a lot of people, including many highly intelligent people, want to look at data. But we also need to look at the precise mechanisms by which the data get reported.
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  247. Art Deco says:
    @Anonymous
    I think it is lower. I think that the "salary" reports for "professors" are routinely manipulated since university administrations have both the power and the incentive to portray their "professors" as well paid and dedicated professionals dedicated to the cultivation of their students. On some level, I have NO DOUBT that this is true. What I don't know are the details, and I also don't know whether the way that this works is the same in all settings. Probably it is not.

    I don't think there are objective facts here, since there are no objective facts about who is really a "professor". (Of course there are objective facts about who gets paid what, and what titles they have, and what degrees they have, and what their status at the university is. But most people, when thinking about "professors", aren't thinking about these things.)

    A university might count only a "full professor", that is, a tenured professor, as a professor. A university might count only tenure-track professors as professors. A university might count only full-time professors as professors. A university might count only those whose job title includes "professor" as professors (excluding "lecturers" and "instructors"). A university might arbitrarily exclude all students from the "professor" category, even if some students also have paid employment as "professors". A clever person can keep thinking of new options. A university might report professorial emolument by student/class, so that each student in a class "taught" by a $200K/year prof counts as $200K/year, whereas each of the 28 students in the class taught by the adjunct assistant prof earning $3K/class gets that recorded.

    Are they any standards here? I don't think so. They are certainly not discussed in the MSM discussions of "best colleges", which routinely (I think) use professorial payment as one of their standards of judgement.

    I do not think I have ever seen anything approaching an adequate investigation of this topic.

    I have taught as a full-time non-TT "professor" at multiple highly selective schools that everyone, by normal standards, will recognize as among the top in the US. I have also taught, while a grad student, while holding a job with "professor" in the title, in a department that was ranked, by some criterion, as #1 in the US in my field.

    My field is not economics, which for many reasons is probably more lucrative than many, so my judgement could be quite off. I grant that there is some chance that my numerical claims are way off base, but I suspect that would almost certainly be because I fail to grasp the wage differences between disciplines. Even if these wage differences are far more extreme than I suspect, my basic suspicions remain. And I have little doubt that extreme manipulation is routine.

    I think it is lower. I

    I take it you were disappointed with your salary and have been disappointed with your career prospects. That’s not the problem of the Bureau of Labor Statistics or the Census Bureau.

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    I am a fallible human being. Anyone unable to make the same assertion is a degenerate. I am actively developing ways to respond to my human fallibility.
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  248. Art Deco says:
    @snorlax
    I've met enough (education[1]|sociology|cultural anthropology|* studies|...[2]) PhDs that I don't need to read their dissertations to say they aren't exactly a group of intellectual heavyweights.

    Then there are all the fields that do attract some smart people but the field itself is complete bullshit, including but hardly limited to (psychology|economics|climatology|linguistics)[3].

    I hardly even need mention there's a strong inverse correlation between the rigor of a PhD program and the likelihood a degree-holder insists on the title "Dr."

    [1] Which, IIRC, alone accounts for more than half of new "PhDs."

    [2] I recently met a student of "cartography," which I had thought was just an absurd joke Arrested Development had made up. The program, which seemed to revolve around excuses to go on rich kid vacations and very occasionally drawing woke redlining/magic dirt maps, did not seem particularly rigorous.

    [3] Whose corresponding non-bullshit disciplines are (psychiatry|quantitative analysis|meteorology|natural language processing). Note that the non-bullshitters typically employ or have academic backgrounds in precisely zero (0) of the bullshit publications and theories.

    Again, about 55,000 research doctorates are currently being awarded each year. That excludes the issue of the schools of education (which sometimes offer research degrees). At the most granular level of classification, the following account for about 1/2. Between 480 and 2,700 degrees were awarded in these disciplines during the 2014-15 academic year. They’re in descending order of commonality.

    Chemistry, general
    Electrical and electronics engineering
    Psychology, general
    Physics, general
    Business administration and management, general
    Mechanical engineering
    English language and literature, general
    Mathematics, general
    Economics, general
    Bioengineering and biomedical engineering
    Chemical engineering
    Civil engineering, general
    Biology/biological sciences, general
    Computer science
    History, general
    Agriculture, agriculture operations, and related sciences
    Political science and government, general
    Sociology
    Computer and information sciences, general
    Materials engineering
    Neuroscience
    Music, general
    Anthropology
    Biochemistry
    Theology/theological studies
    Biomedical sciences, general

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  249. Art Deco says:
    @Taco

    People who tell you they have a handle on the quality of dissertations across a dozen different fields in 1948 and on quality today nearly all have one thing in common: they’re lying to themselves if they’re not lying to you.

    Across an array of professions, the ratio of practitioners to annual degree awards at this time is as follows:

    [etc]
     

    At least for law (btw, no dissertation is required for a JD) this is very misleading. I don't care what the ratio of practioners to annual graduates to professors is; the number of law graduates every year is substantially higher than the number of legal jobs that become available every year.

    Honestly, why is the ratio of practitioners to graduates important in any way? If AI takes off all of a sudden, we would expect the ratio of "robotics" practitioners to "robotics" graduates to be, at least initially, severely out of whack (perhaps something like 1-to-100 until supply caught up with demand). Similarly, an over saturated field like law consistently has too many graduates, despite a large number of practitioners.

    I don't even know if your other premises are wrong, but your arguments are completely orthogonal to the point.

    Honestly, why is the ratio of practitioners to graduates important in any way?

    It’s a rough indicator of the oversupply of new entrants in a given profession (though if it’s an occupation with high rates of burnout, the situation may be less disagreeable than appears).

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    When I was in architecture school, there were more students in architecture school than there were practicing professionals in the field. This may still be true, for all I know. Even more on point here, there was a movement to increase the number of minorities in school and in the profession. But then people got to thinking: how would it benefit them to enter a profession with notoriously long hours and low pay?
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  250. Art Deco says:
    @Svigor

    if there were no racism, 90% of blacks would be unemployed, since there’d be no need for affirmative action.

    There has been a 7-digit (now 8-digit) population of employed blacks in this country for a couple of centuries now. That’s not because of ‘affirmative action’.
     
    Why don't you make yourself useful and find out 1 how many gov't employees there are in America (federal, state & local), and 2 the racial breakdown?

    Or how many American Jews marry blacks?

    Each is a serious question.

    Why don’t you make yourself useful and find out 1 how many gov’t employees there are in America (federal, state & local), and 2 the racial breakdown?

    I think it’s about 12 million and that about 16% are black, but I’d have to check.

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  251. @snorlax
    I've met enough (education[1]|sociology|cultural anthropology|* studies|...[2]) PhDs that I don't need to read their dissertations to say they aren't exactly a group of intellectual heavyweights.

    Then there are all the fields that do attract some smart people but the field itself is complete bullshit, including but hardly limited to (psychology|economics|climatology|linguistics)[3].

    I hardly even need mention there's a strong inverse correlation between the rigor of a PhD program and the likelihood a degree-holder insists on the title "Dr."

    [1] Which, IIRC, alone accounts for more than half of new "PhDs."

    [2] I recently met a student of "cartography," which I had thought was just an absurd joke Arrested Development had made up. The program, which seemed to revolve around excuses to go on rich kid vacations and very occasionally drawing woke redlining/magic dirt maps, did not seem particularly rigorous.

    [3] Whose corresponding non-bullshit disciplines are (psychiatry|quantitative analysis|meteorology|natural language processing). Note that the non-bullshitters typically employ or have academic backgrounds in precisely zero (0) of the bullshit publications and theories.

    I hardly even need mention there’s a strong inverse correlation between the rigor of a PhD program and the likelihood a degree-holder insists on the title “Dr.”

    Yep. Every high school principal with a PhD in Education insists on being addressed as Doctor. So does Jill Biden.

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    I would have more respect for them, including "Dr." Biden, if they actually held Ph.D.'s. Instead they hold Ed.D.'s, an inferior degree.
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  252. Olorin says:
    @PNW_mossback
    I read the full article and the language looked very familiar - I'd seen a lot of it before.

    How about:
    Expertise: media arts, media and film, experimental media

    Related Subjects: Cultural Studies, Media and Film, Media Arts


    I'm not absolutely certain, but this may be the author. Lots more on Youtube.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doUn0WY33YU

    Not sure I’d come to the same conclusion. However either way, it would behoove the old gray Chronic to dig a bit deeper than the writer’s assertions about widespread institutional racism/collective racial guilt.

    If you are right about Ms. Lowe, then it might be instructive to ask how a Black Queer Artist And Educator Born In Middletown, CT (Ms. Lowe’s self description), went from gushing enthusiasm about getting hired at ESC for Her Dream Job to the behavior in the video.

    Below is her 2010 blog entry entitled “I Win, and You Can Too!”

    I’m quoting it at length because it offers a glimpse into the mindset of mid-Obama-era academics who produce nothing, expect everything…while demanding the individual and collective power to destroy those who create and maintain the civilization they criticize and parasitize. All in the name of Social Justice, etc.

    We now have several generations of these people who bent their existence around the Ed Biz’s promise of a lifetime sinecure for spouting, conforming to, and doubling down on nonsense.

    You can read Lowe’s doubts about this career path between the lines and right in them. Plus as Lowe openly admits, she prostituted herself to the Ed Biz. Scorned strumpet/infernal fury is hardly a surprising theme in the annals of human behavior.

    As our host has observed from parsing people’s LinkedIn pages, many begin this deliberate, pointed academic whoreclimb in high school or earlier…or are shunted that way by others.

    Being disabused of their illusions in their 30s and seeing larger cultural and social changes underway must be startling indeed.

    For instance, Ms. Lowe appeared on November 9, 2016, on the Evergreen campus wearing a full body garment imprinted all over with hands extending their middle finger. She used a photo of herself wearing it, and echoing its gesture, to illustrate a tirade against Donald J. Trump and his voters, including “I am grateful to spend time with other women of color doing the hard fucking work of fixing this mess that whiteness has made…. To my white friends: You’re on notice. If you are not paying me cash money, working on an impeachment plan or burning a cop shop to the ground, we don’t have much to say to each other.”

    A person sure can go downhill in six years when thwarted in ego.

    I have some amazing news.

    I have scored my dream job at the Evergreen State College in Olympia WA. I’ll be teaching experimental and non-fiction film and video at a fantastic little public liberal arts college. It’s an interdisciplinary college so that means that I get to teach across methodologies and with faculty in a variety of fields. The people are great, the campus is beautiful, and the opportunities for growth are fantastic. Like I said, my dream job. So dreamy in fact that I still periodically check the job boards because I haven’t totally convinced myself that it’s real.

    I’m moving far away from everything I’ve ever known here on the dirty old East Coast, which is such an adventure for me in so many ways. I am happy, scared, thrilled, nervous, amazed and generally impressed with myself and the universe for this amazing opportunity.

    I’m inspired to write a little something about this whole issue of getting ones foot in the academia door based on an interesting post written by this illustrious Julie Levin Russo last year when she landed her first academic job. She muses brilliantly on the strange culture industry that is academia and the challenges faced by young/new scholars. Her conclusions are astutely based in an analysis of how class privilege dictates ones relative ability to “make it” in academia. I couldn’t agree more with her conclusions, and I recommend you read her thoughts on this and more over at her blog.

    I am, of course, in a slightly different category as an artist navigating academia. In some ways us artists have an advantage, at least in terms of our mindset. As an artist, I’ve long since given up on the idea that what I produce is anything but a commodity to be traded in one of various cultural marketplaces. We all do it, one way or another. We go on tour, we get commissions, we audition for commercials, we get design gigs on the side, we teach, we beg, we borrow, we steal. Depending on our educations, privileges, and inclinations, some of us end up in Academia. I am one such person.

    Some background: I grew up around educators and academics and artists, so my inclination towards this field was somewhat predisposed. There was a moment in college when I thought I’d rebel and become a corporate lawyer or get an MBA, but I figured I’d rather not actually be able to pay off my student loans, so I stuck with art. My father is an artist and scholar working in academia, so its really kind of the family business.

    There is a somewhat long and convoluted story that accounts for how I ended up getting an MFA in Film in 2008, which I won’t bother to tell right now. But I did it, and then I needed to become employed. Before and during graduate school, I had a variety of jobs, in fields savory and unsavory that paid my bills and kept me in good stories to make art about. After graduate school I decided to really “go for it” and focused all of my energy on doing that wonderfully absurd hustle known as: Being an Adjunct.

    http://www.naimalowe.net/blog/2010/03/31/i-win-and-so-can-you

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  253. Olorin says:
    @Svigor

    if there were no racism, 90% of blacks would be unemployed, since there’d be no need for affirmative action.

    There has been a 7-digit (now 8-digit) population of employed blacks in this country for a couple of centuries now. That’s not because of ‘affirmative action’.
     
    Why don't you make yourself useful and find out 1 how many gov't employees there are in America (federal, state & local), and 2 the racial breakdown?

    Or how many American Jews marry blacks?

    Each is a serious question.

    Here’s some 2006 numbers for the federal government:

    http://adversity.net/fed_stats/OPM2007/001_blacksFY2006.htm

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  254. Olorin says:
    @bomag
    Just call her academic career what it is (in her mind), "Twelve Years a Slave".

    Notice how this cohort of SJWs win every debate: if you suggest it is about hard work, they'll tell you everyone works equally hard; but now that you've mentioned it, they are working harder than anyone else.

    If you suggest it is about intelligence, they'll tell you everyone is equally intelligent; but now that you've mentioned it, they are smarter than anyone else.

    If you suggest it is about creativity, they'll tell you everyone is equally creative; but now that you've mentioned it, they are more creative than anyone else.

    Etc.

    Spot on IME…though I think the work part is different for them than the intelligence and creativity ones.

    Notice how this cohort of SJWs win every debate: if you suggest it is about hard work, they’ll tell you everyone works equally hard; but now that you’ve mentioned it, they are working harder than anyone else.

    One might conclude they are surprised to realize that life requires effort.

    Not unexpected for people who have spent toddlerhood to their 30s in school learning to manipulate a reward structure.

    That’s a very different order of business from going to work, having to produce something that works, not leave till it’s completed, and having people who can reject it as inadequate or not functional, then you start over or keep going till it’s right.

    Also SJWs are starting from a (self-defined) deficit, so having to do even the minimum would require crossing a vast chasm of Effort.

    I.e., if they do nothing as an obese black transgender wheelchair bound bipolar AIDS patient, they start from +10,000 Effort whereas the white guys out fixing the electric grid after a hurricane start from -15,000 Effort. SJW puts in +10 Effort for rolling over to the fridge despite all the Fat Shaming and Ableism…and win the Effortpoints Game by a landslide.

    They also get to use the electric grid on demand and with subsidies…whereas its producers/maintainers get zero SJW points.

    There’s an economics here, but it’s totally batguano nutzoid.

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  255. @Bro Methylene
    I too have noticed that Alex Jones, like Ann Coulter, is a professional attention-diverter. Their tactics seem to work on tens of millions of American voters.

    Ann Coulter has been dead-on right on everything I’ve read from her in the last 5 years. What the hell are you on, Bro?

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  256. @CCZ
    Social "Justice" Jihadist (Unitarian-Universalist version) Thanksgiving Greeting:

    "For those who hold Thanksgiving as a day of sadness, who mourn for the hurt and loss of native peoples, ... we hold your heartache and sorrow so you do not have to carry the burden alone."

    Nothing about the turkeys! These Unitarians do sound like a bunch of haters … and … pass me some more of that delicious gravy.

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  257. guest says:
    @Svigor

    I’m guessing a higher percentage of Jews marry blacks than the white population at large, but that could be wrong. There are a fair number of “bluish” (black/jewish, jewlattos?) celebrities out there, like Slash, Lisa Bonet, Lenny Kravitz.
     
    1 Jews are as leftist an American demo as there is, this side of blacks. Super into "anti-racism." Super pro-black. The two groups are political allies; Jews love promoting blacks, whitewashing them in Big Media, waxing nostalgic about the Jewish Freedom Riders and Jewish anti-Apartheid activists, sniffing black athletes' jocks, founding the NAACP, allying with Black Panthers, etc. They also love calling Whites racist and intolerant.

    2 Jews are very into Jews. Jews are also very into Jewish stats. They count how many Jews there are, how many are being born or dying, how educated they are, how rich they are, how famous they are, their fields medals, their Nobel prizes, which celebs or historical figures are Jewish, etc., etc., etc. They also keep close track of how many are marrying out of the tribe or the religion. Nobody else does this, but Jews are really into it.

    IMO, these combine to make the good guess the opposite of yours. If Jews were marrying blacks at a rate higher than Whites, I think we would have heard about it. It would show that Jews are more anti-racist, more tolerant, than Whites. That Jews put their money where there mouth is. It's not as if the Jewish bean-counters don't know these numbers; they almost certainly do. But they don't release them. I've done a fair bit of looking, and never seen mention of this stat. As if it doesn't exist in the minds of Jews.

    It probably doesn't exist in the minds of Jews, because the bean-counters gatekeeping the info know that the rate is actually lower for Jews. Probably enough so that it's embarrassing, and thus kept secret, and thus unmentioned.

    Slash, Bonet, Kravitz, and Drake are not a fair number; they're four people.

    “Nobody else does this, but Jews are really into it”

    Well, there used to be such things as social registers and Who’s Who. There probably still are. But mostly you’re right. WASPs hearts aren’t in it any more. If they even self-identify anymore.

    Meanwhile, the website Jew or Not Jew was created by–you guessed it–Jews.

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  258. @Art Deco
    One what? One working black? One social worker? One benefits reviewer? One teacher's aide?

    1 Black studies professor, I assume.

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  259. @Svigor

    I’m guessing a higher percentage of Jews marry blacks than the white population at large, but that could be wrong. There are a fair number of “bluish” (black/jewish, jewlattos?) celebrities out there, like Slash, Lisa Bonet, Lenny Kravitz.
     
    1 Jews are as leftist an American demo as there is, this side of blacks. Super into "anti-racism." Super pro-black. The two groups are political allies; Jews love promoting blacks, whitewashing them in Big Media, waxing nostalgic about the Jewish Freedom Riders and Jewish anti-Apartheid activists, sniffing black athletes' jocks, founding the NAACP, allying with Black Panthers, etc. They also love calling Whites racist and intolerant.

    2 Jews are very into Jews. Jews are also very into Jewish stats. They count how many Jews there are, how many are being born or dying, how educated they are, how rich they are, how famous they are, their fields medals, their Nobel prizes, which celebs or historical figures are Jewish, etc., etc., etc. They also keep close track of how many are marrying out of the tribe or the religion. Nobody else does this, but Jews are really into it.

    IMO, these combine to make the good guess the opposite of yours. If Jews were marrying blacks at a rate higher than Whites, I think we would have heard about it. It would show that Jews are more anti-racist, more tolerant, than Whites. That Jews put their money where there mouth is. It's not as if the Jewish bean-counters don't know these numbers; they almost certainly do. But they don't release them. I've done a fair bit of looking, and never seen mention of this stat. As if it doesn't exist in the minds of Jews.

    It probably doesn't exist in the minds of Jews, because the bean-counters gatekeeping the info know that the rate is actually lower for Jews. Probably enough so that it's embarrassing, and thus kept secret, and thus unmentioned.

    Slash, Bonet, Kravitz, and Drake are not a fair number; they're four people.

    “It probably doesn’t exist in the minds of Jews, because the bean-counters gatekeeping the info know that the rate is actually lower for Jews.”

    Haven’t found marriage rates yet but fwiw interracial dating is higher among Jews. I don’t know if the article separates Asian from Black cohorts, will try to check over the weekend.

    http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0192513X14555766?journalCode=jfia

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  260. @Svigor

    I’m guessing a higher percentage of Jews marry blacks than the white population at large, but that could be wrong. There are a fair number of “bluish” (black/jewish, jewlattos?) celebrities out there, like Slash, Lisa Bonet, Lenny Kravitz.
     
    1 Jews are as leftist an American demo as there is, this side of blacks. Super into "anti-racism." Super pro-black. The two groups are political allies; Jews love promoting blacks, whitewashing them in Big Media, waxing nostalgic about the Jewish Freedom Riders and Jewish anti-Apartheid activists, sniffing black athletes' jocks, founding the NAACP, allying with Black Panthers, etc. They also love calling Whites racist and intolerant.

    2 Jews are very into Jews. Jews are also very into Jewish stats. They count how many Jews there are, how many are being born or dying, how educated they are, how rich they are, how famous they are, their fields medals, their Nobel prizes, which celebs or historical figures are Jewish, etc., etc., etc. They also keep close track of how many are marrying out of the tribe or the religion. Nobody else does this, but Jews are really into it.

    IMO, these combine to make the good guess the opposite of yours. If Jews were marrying blacks at a rate higher than Whites, I think we would have heard about it. It would show that Jews are more anti-racist, more tolerant, than Whites. That Jews put their money where there mouth is. It's not as if the Jewish bean-counters don't know these numbers; they almost certainly do. But they don't release them. I've done a fair bit of looking, and never seen mention of this stat. As if it doesn't exist in the minds of Jews.

    It probably doesn't exist in the minds of Jews, because the bean-counters gatekeeping the info know that the rate is actually lower for Jews. Probably enough so that it's embarrassing, and thus kept secret, and thus unmentioned.

    Slash, Bonet, Kravitz, and Drake are not a fair number; they're four people.

    Also interracial marriage is largely an urban phenomenon in the USA, thus Jews likely to be over represented.

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  261. @Jim Don Bob

    I hardly even need mention there’s a strong inverse correlation between the rigor of a PhD program and the likelihood a degree-holder insists on the title “Dr.”
     
    Yep. Every high school principal with a PhD in Education insists on being addressed as Doctor. So does Jill Biden.

    I would have more respect for them, including “Dr.” Biden, if they actually held Ph.D.’s. Instead they hold Ed.D.’s, an inferior degree.

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    I stand corrected.
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  262. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Art Deco
    That's from the Bureau of Labor Statistics 'employment by occupation' data set. Very readily accessible on the BLS site. That's the median figure. As a general rule, about 1/2 of all faculty members are f/t and half are p/t. Not sure what the shares are in economics as a discipline. The mean figure is about $20,000 a year higher.

    Thanks, I’ll look into that. I respect people even if I think they are seriously misguided, so long as they are willing to consider criticism.

    A few substantive thoughts:

    The mean figure strikes me as dubious. My own sense is that the mean/median disparity would be greater. I don’t mean to disparage hard numbers at all, but if people with the power and incentive to “cook the books” control the data, there is reason to distrust the numbers.

    If half of “faculty members” are acknowledged to be “part time” then this strikes me as allowing great opportunities for manipulation.

    I would not be surprised if the BLS is effectively colluding in the manipulation of data.

    One basic problem: a lot of people, including many highly intelligent people, want to look at data. But we also need to look at the precise mechanisms by which the data get reported.

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  263. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Art Deco
    I think it is lower. I

    I take it you were disappointed with your salary and have been disappointed with your career prospects. That's not the problem of the Bureau of Labor Statistics or the Census Bureau.

    I am a fallible human being. Anyone unable to make the same assertion is a degenerate. I am actively developing ways to respond to my human fallibility.

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  264. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Daniel Williams

    Try and work something WNish into a conversation with your superiors and see how fast you derail from your “tenure track”.
     
    Except that, like most Americans, this professor's superiors are all hardline white nationalists. How else could advocating against white nationalism be so exhausting?

    This chick is one of the few academics brave enough to advocate a liberal viewpoint, although she must do so anonymously for fear of reprisal.

    Brilliant, and also sad because many people really believe this. It’s always 1952 for these people.

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  265. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Kylie
    "Many black academics aren’t trying to escape racism, they’re trying to be part of a monastic existence that allows only one mindset…one faith, albeit secular, with no opposition. Opposition equals oppression in this orderly existence. They want a world where their precepts are everyone else’s precepts, sort of ignoring (or being ignorant of) the old idea that universities should be places where precepts are challenged, not enforced."

    In other words, they have real difficulty understanding abstract thought.

    Indeed. And it is for this reason that they will fail to understand the actual dynamics in play in any academic setting, and instead attribute everything to racism, usually of the ‘invisible’ kind.

    Interviewer: “Why do you copy other artists’ work?”
    Andy Warhol: “It’s easier that way.”

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  266. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXKmsvRXE4A

    When I got off the jetliner in Rio de Janeiro in 1978, the Rio airport was playing Grand Funk Railroad as airport music.

    Rio de Janeiro in 1978

    Sigh. I bet that was nice.

    Don’t go back. You can never go back.

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  267. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Art Deco
    Honestly, why is the ratio of practitioners to graduates important in any way?

    It's a rough indicator of the oversupply of new entrants in a given profession (though if it's an occupation with high rates of burnout, the situation may be less disagreeable than appears).

    When I was in architecture school, there were more students in architecture school than there were practicing professionals in the field. This may still be true, for all I know. Even more on point here, there was a movement to increase the number of minorities in school and in the profession. But then people got to thinking: how would it benefit them to enter a profession with notoriously long hours and low pay?

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  268. @ScarletNumber
    I would have more respect for them, including "Dr." Biden, if they actually held Ph.D.'s. Instead they hold Ed.D.'s, an inferior degree.

    I stand corrected.

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    No need to stand corrected. Just pointed that out to show the situation is even more vile than you thought.
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  269. Corvinus says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Yep. The Dems and the GOP are simply different sects of the same religion - a religion to which I don't belong.

    They're like two football coaches who have very different game plans but who adamently believe that men and women are equally strong and aggressive and, therefore, both require that the team be half men and women at every position. While I might believe that one coach has the better plan, it obviously doesn't matter because their fundamental belief in the physical equality of men and women will ensure defeat regardless of whom the coach may be.

    Naturally, the continued failure of the team will lead to endless debate on why Coach Blue should replace Coach Red or vice versa.

    That's what I see when I watch people debate politics.

    “Now, that doesn’t mean that I have to agree with everything that Israel (or Japan for that matter) does as a country, just that I think Jews should have their own country (or very autonomous enclaves within a country) as should Germans, as should the ethnic French as should European Americans if they so choose.”

    How many white Americans refer to themselves as “European Americans”?

    How many white Americans agree with you that European-Americans ought to have their own country?

    Get back to us with this hard data and then we can begin a discussion in earnest.

    “Goodness knows that I have my issues with influential Jews trying to destroy my people…”

    Again, who is “your people”? Is it white people? European American peoples? See, I fit both descriptions. I am white and trace my ancestry to Germany, Poland, and the Netherlands. So, technically, I am “your people”. If I am not “your people”, why not?

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  270. @Jim Don Bob
    I stand corrected.

    No need to stand corrected. Just pointed that out to show the situation is even more vile than you thought.

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    I knew about the Ed.D but had forgotten about it. Your correction was on point.
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  271. @ScarletNumber
    No need to stand corrected. Just pointed that out to show the situation is even more vile than you thought.

    I knew about the Ed.D but had forgotten about it. Your correction was on point.

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  272. Corvinus says:
    @guest
    This confuses the issue by playing with the differing meanings of "alternative right" (anything on the right not part of the mainstream, or more particularly not in the service of Conservatism, Inc.) and "alt-right" (the populist nationalist movement on the right.

    Cernovich is not alt-right. Neither is Milo, and they're very vocal on the point. Molyneux is drifting that way, but he's still not there. All of these guys are what we call "alt-lite."

    Yarvin is Moldbug, who was massively influential on the alternative right but is in fact neoreactionary. (And not a Zionist supremacist, though he did apologize for the state of Israel.) He was neither a nationalist nor a populist.

    “Cernovich is not alt-right. Neither is Milo, and they’re very vocal on the point. Molyneux is drifting that way, but he’s still not there. All of these guys are what we call “alt-lite.””

    Alt-Lite? No, Brabantian’s list clearly listed prominent members of the Alt Right, make no mistake about it.

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