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The original rosters announced for both the East and West teams in today’s NBA All Star Game were all black: 24 out of 24. In fact, all were American-born blacks.

An injury last week to Jimmy Butler of the East led to Spaniard Pau Gasol being substituted in. (A subsequent injury to Chris Bosh led to Al Horford, a black born in the Dominican Republic, being added.)

No American-born whites are on either NBA All Star team.

Several All-Stars, however, are mulattos. In fact, it’s becoming pretty common for All-Stars, such as Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson of this year’s superlative Golden State Warriors (and Joakim Noah and Tony Parker in years past), to be sons of black professional athletes and hot white moms. Dads Dell Curry played 16 seasons in the NBA and Mychal Thompson played 12.

Update: Readers inform me that Steph Curry’s mom isn’t white.

This year’s #AllStarsSoBlack game is a bit of a statistical fluke. Last year’s rosters included four whites (three Europeans — the Gasol Brothers and Dirk Nowitzki — and Kyle Korver, who grew up in Pella, Iowa). The 2014 game had two white players, Nowitzki and Oregon-raised Kevin Love. But the 2013 game had only one or two whites (David Lee and, perhaps, Brook Lopez).

Is this the result of systemic racism?

Probably a little bit. The fact that most good white basketball players these days either come from overseas or from extremely white parts of North America is curious. For example, here’s where two-time NBA MVP Steve Nash played high school ball:

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You might think, a priori, that growing up competing against the best black talent would be good for tall white guys.

But instead it seems to drive them into tennis or water polo or whatever.

But, mostly, #AllStarsSoBlack just seems to be the usual combination of nature and nurture leading to racial imbalance among top performers.

 
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  1. The irony if Spike and Will have front row seats!

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  2. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Two conclusions:

    1. Black amen are physically superior to white men

    2. Black men are adored by white girls

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    • Replies: @Difference Maker
    Those girls arent that hot
    , @interesting
    "Black amen are physically superior to white men"


    and/or recruiters will simply not look at white guys, same with football. those in charge will fall all over themselves to prove a black guy can play quarterback but at the same time ignore white guys for anything other than their 'approved' positions.

    there was a season where all the top running backs in the Chicago area were white, not one got an offer to any divison 1 college
    , @Brutusale
    Yeah, like this white girl:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3447075/Rebel-Wilson-cheekily-admits-crush-newly-single-Idris-Elba-thrills-BAFTA-2016.html
    , @Realist
    Sports are a form of entertainment that has a very low level of utility to humanity. In intellectual endeavors whites are overwhelmingly superior to blacks.
    , @UWorlds
    But black men are stupid for thinking that white girls give them social standing in America. Most of the ones they marry are way beneath them!! They will marry a white waitress (O.J) or slut (Kanye), or someone they meet in the club (Jordan) but when it comes to a sister they have to be a millionaire. I think all black men suffer from very low self esteem. They will get the dumbest white girl and parade her around AND brag about it on social media (like you). Do you need a white girl to feel like a man? The dumbest men in the world, no one else looks to other races like black men!!
    , @juandos
    Well donut city if you're a white male/metrosexual from where I sit you seem to have very little self confidence and you're painting with a very broad brush that all (?) white girls are mudsharks... That's a tough sell...
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  3. Pat Casey says:

    The AAU system is overwhelmingly coached by blacks. (I played against the team Adrian Dantley coached after they had won the national championship.) AAU coaches have (had) a reputation for being slimy, and I never really saw exactly what that meant, my coach was hugely ethical, but I assume they make and break a lot of promises to underprivileged kids, and perhaps get funnelled from wherever the kind of petty cash that hooks slimy black dudes. Strikes me slimy black dudes might recruit white players less just because those ones tend to come with parents they can’t confidently bullshit, an effective racism out of respect. But generally yeah those coaches are racist. I mean they seem to basically be self-made recruiters of kids. That sounds pretty slimy plain and simple.

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  4. the finalist in the 3pt shooting contest and slam dunk contest are all mestizo blacks (curry, klay thompson, booker) and (zach lavine, aaron gordon)

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  5. Unzerker says:

    Since we are talking about race and sports it’s worth to mention that a Polish 18 year old girl, Ewa Swoboda, broke the World Junior Record in the 60m sprint this Friday.

    And Dafne Schppers, world champion in the 200m sprint, ran the 9th fastest 60 meters ever this Saturday.

    The future seems bright for white women sprinters.

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    • Replies: @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    In the "Ewa Swoboda" video, all the runner seem to have narrower-than-average hips (do they really?), which is to be expected for a fast-running body type. But look at 1:53. At the end of the race, all the runners must brace themselves as they slam into a padded(?) wall. That's no way to stage a race. Wouldn't runners have faster times if they didn't have to anticipate a body-slam and could decelerate more normally?
    , @neutral
    I wish Sailer would talk about this, white female sprinters have featured at the top on occasion, no such thing happens for the male sprinters for the last 40 decades or so. My guess is that for the females the muscle and testosterone levels are not as critical as for the males (I repeat this is just a guess).
    , @ben tillman

    Since we are talking about race and sports it’s worth to mention that a Polish 18 year old girl, Ewa Swoboda, broke the World Junior Record in the 60m sprint this Friday.
     
    Wow - I'm stunned by the beauty and femininity of the first couple of girls featured in the first video you presented.
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  6. The Ghana international soccer team known as the Black Stars seems to have the same problem, although mulatto Kevin-Prince Boateng switched his allegiance from Germany to Ghana for international play, thus bringing a little genetic diversity to the Black Stars, and a couple of times he played against Jerome Boateng, his half brother, who was playing for Germany.

    According to Wikipedia: “In February 2013, Boateng was appointed as the first global ambassador for the FIFA anti-discrimination taskforce, to work alongside FIFA Vice-President Jeffrey Webb at FIFA headquarters. In March, Boateng presented FIFA President Sepp Blatter with his first phase of solutions to ending global racism in football”

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  7. Why not have US- and foreign-born teams? “East” and “West” have little meaning in professional sports.

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    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Reg, Why even have these meaningless games. Roger Goddell actually apologized for this year's farce game that the NFL All-Pros played. Just name the league All-Stars at the end of the season, no game needed.
    , @ben tillman

    Why not have US- and foreign-born teams? “East” and “West” have little meaning in professional sports.
     
    They have plenty of meaning in the NBA, where the difference between the West and East was huge from the late '90's until this year.
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  8. Technically, Stephen Curry isnt half White. His mother is some kind of Haitian/Creole. http://www.interbasket.net/news/18864/2015/11/stephen-curry-race-mixed/

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  9. george says:

    Hypothesis: White people that live near black people tend to be shorter than those in the areas colonized by tall Nordics with few Blacks.

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    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    This is an interesting point, one that I have considered before.

    Brits are shorter and slighter than other Northern Europeans. The most-heavily-British area of the country, the South, is almost the most-heavily-black.

    One day, the lanky and lactose-tolerant Midwestern farm boys shall arise en masse to whitewash the NBA.

    (Or maybe not.)
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  10. Brook Lopez is actually a mulatto. His father is a black Cuban and mother is white

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  11. Sean c says:

    The rules in the nba favor certain types of players over others. Instituting the shot clock and no zone defense are some of the examples.

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  12. Anon7 says:

    “Several All-Stars, however, are mulattos. In fact, it’s becoming pretty common for All-Stars, such as Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson of this year’s superlative Golden State Warriors (and Joakim Noah and Tony Parker in years past), to be sons of black professional athletes and hot white moms.”

    Not quite. Stephen’s mom Sonya Curry is an African American Creole and has Haitian ethnic background from both her parents’ side. It’s pretty obvious when you look at pictures from later in her life.

    Hot white gals for tall black guys seems like a winner, though. In majority black cities with surrounding white suburbs, local TV news teams are very often a well-spoken tall black guy paired with a cute white woman. I’ve noticed that the promo spots for these teams run incessantly in Detroit and Baltimore.

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  13. Hrw-500 says:

    A bit off-topic, there is some articles who popped about a Youtube video titled “the unequal opportunity race”

    http://www.richmond.com/news/local/education/henrico/article_e54b7798-84f0-5443-ae9a-2fbe9ac31f11.html

    http://www.dawgshed.com/threads/unequal-opportunity-race-caution-white-guilt.176789/

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3440944/Virginia-parents-outraged-white-guilt-affirmative-action-video-shown-high-school-students.html

    That video had been debunked, check it and uploaded elsewhere on Vimeo/Veoh/Dailymotion/Liveleak,etc… if Youtube pull it.

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  14. Stephen Curry’s mom Sonya is African American Creole and Haitian ethnic background from both her parents side.

    According to this

    http://nbafamily.wikia.com/wiki/Sonya_Curry

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    Hence she has some white ancestry on both sides. She has a bit of a Dolezal look at times.

    Zach Lavine's mom is white. Or someone who thinks she's white. Lavine though. I guess his dad has some connection to Steve's famous confederate MOTs.
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  15. @Reg Cæsar
    Why not have US- and foreign-born teams? "East" and "West" have little meaning in professional sports.

    Reg, Why even have these meaningless games. Roger Goddell actually apologized for this year’s farce game that the NFL All-Pros played. Just name the league All-Stars at the end of the season, no game needed.

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  16. Steve,

    Systemic racism against white developing players may exist, but I haven’t seen it in twenty years of coaching at various levels. I think it’s more likely that parents of good, tall white athletic boys recognize early on that their sons can be successful in a number of sports, notably baseball, football and basketball, but the natural genetic advantages in quickness and jumping ability that the best black athletes enjoy mean that the white kids would have to have incredible skill advantages just to stay even.

    Basketball, more than football, and far more than baseball, is a sport that rewards natural genetic advantages. Even if you can’t shoot, why if you’re quick enough and can jump high enough to keep grabbing the ball, you’ll eventually get it to go in. The best young black kids can do that better than most of the best young white kids.

    Most white parents are not stupid and can intuit this or see it in action at a young age. So, predictably, they make the rational decision to push their sons away from basketball and into other (often much more skill-based) sports.

    This is especially true for white parents of taller, athletic daughters. Very few white parents are pushing their daughters into AAU or travel basketball, where they would have to compete with aggressive, large black girls. Instead, white parents are pushing their tall daughters into travel volleyball.

    Travel youth basketball results in heavily black high school teams for both boys and girls.

    And, that travel volleyball, travel soccer and travel baseball results in almost all-white teams later on in high school is, as you have noted many times, for both black and white parents, a feature, not a bug.

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    "And, that travel volleyball, travel soccer and travel baseball results in almost all-white teams later on in high school is, as you have noted many times, for both black and white parents, a feature, not a bug."

    A friend of mine, a guy I played basketball with in college (and who still holds the school career scoring record), recently told me he his son got a volleyball scholarship to Harvard. And he's white.

    So, yeah.
    , @E. Rekshun
    So, predictably, they make the rational decision to push their sons away from basketball and into other (often much more skill-based) sports.

    Over the years, several family members, friends, coworkers, and acquaintances have steered their athletic kids toward swimming; hoping, in part, that they'll be good enough to receive college scholarships, but also realizing that the kids could better compete and not get hurt in swimming.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Travis, here in WNY you find a large number of girls playing travel lacrosse and hockey. The number of girls from around here playing collegiate hockey is impressive and often at top schools, including the Ivies. Division II schools also offer good money for girls to play lacrosse and hockey. Good deal as there is no next level in these sports for girls.
    , @hhsiii
    Grayson Allen looks like he'll be a good one, although he took 4 steps to make that game-winner yesterday.

    Probably if they actually called traveling and palming correctly you'd get more white kids in basketball.

    Conversely it would be great to get more african-americans back in baseball. The best athlete in baseball today is Mike Trout, who may be one of the greatest of all time. When he was 17 down in Millville, NJ the Angels scout wrote on his report: "Best player on the planet" and he meant then.
    , @Marty T
    Not surprising white parents would steer their taller daughters towards volleyball. Not just about the competition, also about the peer group and the parental peer group (and also very little chance of serious injury playing volleyball).

    One sport you forgot is lacrosse, which is probably the fastest growing youth sport and is almost all white. Lacrosse doesn't have a lucrative pro league yet but can help you get a degree from an Ivy, or Duke, or Notre Dame. Of course the powers that be are trying to get more blacks involved in lacrosse too. White people can't stand being a part of an all-white group, apparently.
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  17. @Anonymous
    Two conclusions:

    1. Black amen are physically superior to white men

    2. Black men are adored by white girls

    Those girls arent that hot

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  18. As some sort of charity fund raiser, the NBA should turn one game each year into either indoor field hockey or soccer. In spite of how “great” these athletes are by putting the goal at the bottom instead of 10 feet up, it would instantly reverse all the advantages of height. In fact, it would probably render the most dominant players looking like fish out of water. Some of the guards might be pretty good but their high centers of gravity would leave them particularly vulnerable to checks and trips. Put them up against a junior college soccer team and see how well they play.

    Michael Jordan tried a similar experiment when he tried playing baseball and golf. Everybody just kept pitching him low and inside.

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    • Replies: @Marty
    "Everybody just kept pitching him low and inside."

    Unlikely. That's the easiest pitch to just drop the bathead on. Out of AA, it's usually the slider away that keeps guys from the Show.
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  19. @Unzerker
    Since we are talking about race and sports it's worth to mention that a Polish 18 year old girl, Ewa Swoboda, broke the World Junior Record in the 60m sprint this Friday.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yIItdnfjCo

    And Dafne Schppers, world champion in the 200m sprint, ran the 9th fastest 60 meters ever this Saturday.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDAYSw-Fys8

    The future seems bright for white women sprinters.

    In the “Ewa Swoboda” video, all the runner seem to have narrower-than-average hips (do they really?), which is to be expected for a fast-running body type. But look at 1:53. At the end of the race, all the runners must brace themselves as they slam into a padded(?) wall. That’s no way to stage a race. Wouldn’t runners have faster times if they didn’t have to anticipate a body-slam and could decelerate more normally?

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    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Mark Spahn, You're from WNY, when we ran track at the local Jesuit Prep school their track ended about 10 yards or less from a fence. You just naturally slowed before you hit the finish line and then the fence. Their runners were used to pulling up just after the finish.
    , @Marty T
    Yeah, what the heck is that? It was kind of funny I must say.
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  20. Rev. Right says: • Website

    Black aptitude and interest in basketball is obviously higher. The fact that American born whites are particularly absent in professional basketball is in part due to the fact blacks mature earlier. If you don’t make your high school freshman team, your career is over at 14, even if you hit 6’6″ by the time you would be a freshman in college. The best prospects are usually identified before they even get to high school.

    Europeans don’t have that filter. Neither do American whites that go to all white high schools, but those are increasingly rare, especially the larger schools where college prospects are incubated.

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    • Replies: @Jeff
    Rev., that's an excellent point, something I hadn't ever considered before.
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  21. unit472 says:

    If I want to watch skilled ball handling a trained seal is enough. Great leaping ability, a house cat can outperform anyone in the NBA. As exercise basketball is worthwhile, as a spectator sport it is repetitive and boring.

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    • Replies: @Honesthughgrant
    Cats not only have great leaping ablility, they have fantastic paw-eye coordination.
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  22. Rev. Right says: • Website
    @Paul Jolliffe
    Steve,

    Systemic racism against white developing players may exist, but I haven't seen it in twenty years of coaching at various levels. I think it's more likely that parents of good, tall white athletic boys recognize early on that their sons can be successful in a number of sports, notably baseball, football and basketball, but the natural genetic advantages in quickness and jumping ability that the best black athletes enjoy mean that the white kids would have to have incredible skill advantages just to stay even.

    Basketball, more than football, and far more than baseball, is a sport that rewards natural genetic advantages. Even if you can't shoot, why if you're quick enough and can jump high enough to keep grabbing the ball, you'll eventually get it to go in. The best young black kids can do that better than most of the best young white kids.

    Most white parents are not stupid and can intuit this or see it in action at a young age. So, predictably, they make the rational decision to push their sons away from basketball and into other (often much more skill-based) sports.

    This is especially true for white parents of taller, athletic daughters. Very few white parents are pushing their daughters into AAU or travel basketball, where they would have to compete with aggressive, large black girls. Instead, white parents are pushing their tall daughters into travel volleyball.

    Travel youth basketball results in heavily black high school teams for both boys and girls.

    And, that travel volleyball, travel soccer and travel baseball results in almost all-white teams later on in high school is, as you have noted many times, for both black and white parents, a feature, not a bug.

    “And, that travel volleyball, travel soccer and travel baseball results in almost all-white teams later on in high school is, as you have noted many times, for both black and white parents, a feature, not a bug.”

    A friend of mine, a guy I played basketball with in college (and who still holds the school career scoring record), recently told me he his son got a volleyball scholarship to Harvard. And he’s white.

    So, yeah.

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    • Replies: @Galactic Overlord
    Actually, your friend's son didn't get a volleyball scholarship to Harvard. The Ivy League prohibits its member schools from awarding athletic scholarships.

    What the young man actually got was an athletic admissions slot to Harvard.

    The Ivies allow each member school to set aside a limited number of admission slots specifically for recruited varsity athletes. All must meet a minimum score on a metric the Ivy League calls an "Academic Index", based largely on high school GPA and SAT/ACT scores; the minimum value is set so that on average, all recruited athletes fall no worse than 1 SD below the credentials of the student body as a whole.

    See this New York Times story (soft paywall):

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/25/sports/before-athletic-recruiting-in-the-ivy-league-some-math.html
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  23. @Paul Jolliffe
    Steve,

    Systemic racism against white developing players may exist, but I haven't seen it in twenty years of coaching at various levels. I think it's more likely that parents of good, tall white athletic boys recognize early on that their sons can be successful in a number of sports, notably baseball, football and basketball, but the natural genetic advantages in quickness and jumping ability that the best black athletes enjoy mean that the white kids would have to have incredible skill advantages just to stay even.

    Basketball, more than football, and far more than baseball, is a sport that rewards natural genetic advantages. Even if you can't shoot, why if you're quick enough and can jump high enough to keep grabbing the ball, you'll eventually get it to go in. The best young black kids can do that better than most of the best young white kids.

    Most white parents are not stupid and can intuit this or see it in action at a young age. So, predictably, they make the rational decision to push their sons away from basketball and into other (often much more skill-based) sports.

    This is especially true for white parents of taller, athletic daughters. Very few white parents are pushing their daughters into AAU or travel basketball, where they would have to compete with aggressive, large black girls. Instead, white parents are pushing their tall daughters into travel volleyball.

    Travel youth basketball results in heavily black high school teams for both boys and girls.

    And, that travel volleyball, travel soccer and travel baseball results in almost all-white teams later on in high school is, as you have noted many times, for both black and white parents, a feature, not a bug.

    So, predictably, they make the rational decision to push their sons away from basketball and into other (often much more skill-based) sports.

    Over the years, several family members, friends, coworkers, and acquaintances have steered their athletic kids toward swimming; hoping, in part, that they’ll be good enough to receive college scholarships, but also realizing that the kids could better compete and not get hurt in swimming.

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  24. Rifleman says:

    You might think, a priori, that growing up competing against the best black talent would be good for tall white guys.

    But instead it seems to drive them into tennis or water polo or whatever.

    Well if these “whites” or “white guys” or “white males” can’t or wont compete then there is no excuse for their lack of representation.

    You can’t sit back with a “white male” entitlement complex and get surpassed by better, braver more competitive males, black in sports and sex (with “hot White women”), Asians in academia and science, hispanics in low end manual labor, and then adopt a “white male” persecution complex.

    Stand up, compete, represent and see what happens.

    I think we can see what’s happening and we all know who’s to blame.

    Most people on this site are not all together honest about that.

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    I think we can see what’s happening and we all know who’s to blame.
     
    Yeah, and it's sure as hell not the victims. That was an awful comment, wrong in almost every respect.
    , @bomag
    Stand up, compete, represent and see what happens.

    Modern life is less meritocratic than you imagine.
    , @Anonymous
    Ha ha ha! Take Rifleman's comment and replace "whites", "white guys" and "white males" and with "blacks", "black guys" and "black males". Then, replace "sports" with "science and academics". Wait, you can't say that! THATS RACISSS!
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  25. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    where they would have to compete with aggressive, large black girls.

    Not just “aggressive,” but also virulently racist. What white kid in his/her right mind would willingly enter a locker room where he’s the only one of his kind and surrounded by angry Africans talking smack about cracker this and peckerwood that? From both personal experience as well as confidential conversations with other very big athletic white guys, I can unequivocally say that African behavior pushes a lot of otherwise capable white kids away from team sports like this and into things like swimming, diving, golf, lacrosse, skiing, motorsports, hockey, etc. We may still play b-ball with our (non-angry racist African) friends, but that’s it. For me, the real loss there was football and the closing off of opportunities for athletic scholarships. But until you’ve experienced situations where you’re the only white guy (or one of just a tiny minority of whites) in an overwhelmingly African environment, you simply have no conception of how unpleasant it is.

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    Stories please
    , @interesting
    "For me, the real loss there was football and the closing off of opportunities for athletic scholarships. But until you’ve experienced situations where you’re the only white guy (or one of just a tiny minority of whites) in an overwhelmingly African environment, you simply have no conception of how unpleasant it is"


    I've been in a front row seat for this and as i was told "you're faster than me, stronger than me and a better player than me but you're not black so you don't have a chance"

    that's the reality.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Stan, funny but white football player, Richie Incognito was accused of bullying big, black Jonathon Martin when they both played for the Dolphins. Martin went public with his accusations, and Incognito was sent packing. His career was resurrected in Buffalo this year. Big difference was that Incognito was one of only a few whites on Miami's team.
    , @Seran
    Blacks cannot be racist, they can only be avolic.
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  26. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    The early puberty advantage of blacks is a bigger deal in a sport where size/speed/height is such a big deal. Watching kids in a town with blacks and whites you can see that the black kids really do have almost a two year advantage in relative age. That means the black kids are going to have much more of the ball, the shooting, and the coaches attention. I wonder if Stockton would have stayed in basketball if he had grown up in Chicago. Baseball or soccer don’t allow such a huge advantage is skill developing playing time. However, if you think these social aspects matter in basketball, it does undermine the HBD arguments to an extent. My guess is at the NBA level its all genetics, but that you would have a lot more College white players (and even more so asian) if whites and asians didn’t play against blacks growing up. -We already have a test of that with the L.A. asian only leagues which produce lots of good asian players.

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  27. @Paul Jolliffe
    Steve,

    Systemic racism against white developing players may exist, but I haven't seen it in twenty years of coaching at various levels. I think it's more likely that parents of good, tall white athletic boys recognize early on that their sons can be successful in a number of sports, notably baseball, football and basketball, but the natural genetic advantages in quickness and jumping ability that the best black athletes enjoy mean that the white kids would have to have incredible skill advantages just to stay even.

    Basketball, more than football, and far more than baseball, is a sport that rewards natural genetic advantages. Even if you can't shoot, why if you're quick enough and can jump high enough to keep grabbing the ball, you'll eventually get it to go in. The best young black kids can do that better than most of the best young white kids.

    Most white parents are not stupid and can intuit this or see it in action at a young age. So, predictably, they make the rational decision to push their sons away from basketball and into other (often much more skill-based) sports.

    This is especially true for white parents of taller, athletic daughters. Very few white parents are pushing their daughters into AAU or travel basketball, where they would have to compete with aggressive, large black girls. Instead, white parents are pushing their tall daughters into travel volleyball.

    Travel youth basketball results in heavily black high school teams for both boys and girls.

    And, that travel volleyball, travel soccer and travel baseball results in almost all-white teams later on in high school is, as you have noted many times, for both black and white parents, a feature, not a bug.

    Travis, here in WNY you find a large number of girls playing travel lacrosse and hockey. The number of girls from around here playing collegiate hockey is impressive and often at top schools, including the Ivies. Division II schools also offer good money for girls to play lacrosse and hockey. Good deal as there is no next level in these sports for girls.

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  28. hhsiii says:
    @North Carolina Resident
    Stephen Curry's mom Sonya is African American Creole and Haitian ethnic background from both her parents side.

    According to this
    http://nbafamily.wikia.com/wiki/Sonya_Curry

    Hence she has some white ancestry on both sides. She has a bit of a Dolezal look at times.

    Zach Lavine’s mom is white. Or someone who thinks she’s white. Lavine though. I guess his dad has some connection to Steve’s famous confederate MOTs.

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  29. neutral says:
    @Unzerker
    Since we are talking about race and sports it's worth to mention that a Polish 18 year old girl, Ewa Swoboda, broke the World Junior Record in the 60m sprint this Friday.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yIItdnfjCo

    And Dafne Schppers, world champion in the 200m sprint, ran the 9th fastest 60 meters ever this Saturday.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDAYSw-Fys8

    The future seems bright for white women sprinters.

    I wish Sailer would talk about this, white female sprinters have featured at the top on occasion, no such thing happens for the male sprinters for the last 40 decades or so. My guess is that for the females the muscle and testosterone levels are not as critical as for the males (I repeat this is just a guess).

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  30. Technically, Joakim Noah is a quadroon. His tennis-playing father was a mulatto. He certainly does look less white than say, Rashida Jones.

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  31. Jeff says:
    @Rev. Right
    Black aptitude and interest in basketball is obviously higher. The fact that American born whites are particularly absent in professional basketball is in part due to the fact blacks mature earlier. If you don't make your high school freshman team, your career is over at 14, even if you hit 6'6" by the time you would be a freshman in college. The best prospects are usually identified before they even get to high school.

    Europeans don't have that filter. Neither do American whites that go to all white high schools, but those are increasingly rare, especially the larger schools where college prospects are incubated.

    Rev., that’s an excellent point, something I hadn’t ever considered before.

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  32. AndrewR says:
    @Anonymous

    where they would have to compete with aggressive, large black girls.
     
    Not just "aggressive," but also virulently racist. What white kid in his/her right mind would willingly enter a locker room where he's the only one of his kind and surrounded by angry Africans talking smack about cracker this and peckerwood that? From both personal experience as well as confidential conversations with other very big athletic white guys, I can unequivocally say that African behavior pushes a lot of otherwise capable white kids away from team sports like this and into things like swimming, diving, golf, lacrosse, skiing, motorsports, hockey, etc. We may still play b-ball with our (non-angry racist African) friends, but that's it. For me, the real loss there was football and the closing off of opportunities for athletic scholarships. But until you've experienced situations where you're the only white guy (or one of just a tiny minority of whites) in an overwhelmingly African environment, you simply have no conception of how unpleasant it is.

    Stories please

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    Not sure what my "stories" could impart beyond what I already wrote. I'll never forget my first away b-ball game in an urban school though. Our bus pulled into the parking lot, filled with loitering Africans all glaring at us (all white and/or Jewish), and we had to walk a gauntlet from the bus into the school (Africans lining both sides of the hallway glaring), into the locker room for a moment's peace and quiet, then into the raucous gymnasium. Stands full of glaring Africans shouting white boy this and cracker that - abundantly clear we were hated passionately - behavior that wouldn't for a moment be tolerated in a white school. Of course I later learned this was just typical African behavior, but the hostility and chaos was utterly unlike anything seen before in white schools or Arab schools. Again, anyone who hasn't been immersed in African behavior can't really comprehend it. Most whites would simply wet their pants. For the typical suburban white kid with athleticism, once he's been subjected to the African American paradigm, he's going to rethink his choice of sports. For me, that wasn't my first experience with Africans nor, by a very long shot, my last. But it did inform my decisions to eschew b-ball and football for motorsports, skiing, soccer, and golf. And as I've met other super-sized white guys in life since, the subject has come up and with similar tales. All of which reinforces Steve's idea that white guys who last until college/pro level do so in white cocooned areas where they're too invested to quit by the time they encounter the African paradigm.
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  33. AndrewR says:

    Curry’s mom isn’t “not white.”

    She’s not completely white but she’s not “not white.”

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  34. @Anonymous
    Two conclusions:

    1. Black amen are physically superior to white men

    2. Black men are adored by white girls

    “Black amen are physically superior to white men”

    and/or recruiters will simply not look at white guys, same with football. those in charge will fall all over themselves to prove a black guy can play quarterback but at the same time ignore white guys for anything other than their ‘approved’ positions.

    there was a season where all the top running backs in the Chicago area were white, not one got an offer to any divison 1 college

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    I am very skeptical of this. Recruiters have all the incentives to bring the best
    , @ben tillman

    there was a season where all the top running backs in the Chicago area were white, not one got an offer to any divison 1 college
     
    http://www.gamecocksonline.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/ryan_brewer_115806.html

    Ryan Brewer was a tailback who was named Mr. Football in Ohio in the 1990's.

    He is white.

    He didn't get an offer from Ohio State, so Lou Holtz brought him down to Columbia to play for USC. In an amazing twist of fate, South Carolina wound up playing play Ohio State in two bowl games while Brewer was at USC (the only two football matchups ever between the schools).

    Two wins for the Gamecocks.

    In the first one, a 24-7 win, Brewer scored all three of the Gamecocks' touchdowns while rushing for 109 yards on 19 carries and catching three passes for 92 yards. In the second game, a 31-28 win, he played a lesser role but was a significant contributor, with 61 yards on five carries, two receptions for 17 yards, and two punt returns for 16 yards.

    That was pretty sweet.

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  35. My theory based on no data is that American born whites tend to come from groups with relatively short arms and perhaps shorter legs relative to their height which is a disadvantage in basketball

    There is a disproportionate number of European basketball players from the Balkans, Turkey, Baltics and Russia.

    Take a look at Andre Kirilenko or that new Latvian kid on the Knicks and tell me if your have ever seen an Irish American or Italian with those body proportions?

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    My theory based on no data is that American born whites tend to come from groups with relatively short arms and perhaps shorter legs relative to their height which is a disadvantage in basketball

     

    I think your theory has quite a bit of explanatory power. In recent years the NBA draft fanatics have become a bit obsessed with 'wingspan', i.e. measuring outstretched arms across the shoulders from fingertip to fingertip. I've read that for average white people, wingspan = height. I've measured my own, and that's exactly the case; my height and wingspan are equal.

    But if you look at an NBA draft list or roster, you'll find that almost all players have wingspans that exceed their heights, sometimes by as much as five or six inches -- especially the black players. This gives them a significant advantage, in that their reach (so useful in basketball) is increased without adding any cumbersome body weight that impedes quickness and leaping ability.

    Another factor is neck length. What matters is how high your shoulders are off the floor, not the top of your head, so a short neck is 'better' than a swanlike one.

    A perfect example of both of these factors is Kevin McHale (who, incidentally, is very white indeed). He's nearly seven feet tall, but if you take a close look at photos of him when he was playing in the NBA, he's very oddly proportioned (see this photo, for instance). He has incredibly long, gangly arms, and his head looks as if it's plopped directly down on his shoulders. His functional height for basketball was therefore excellent, and, not coincidentally, he's recognized as one of the greatest post-up players in NBA history. He couldn't be stopped, even by players inches taller than him.

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  36. Average black male is “physically superior” than average white male while seems there is a broader variation in this biological aspect among whites. And east Asian male tend to be overwhelming less muscular.

    White male population seems to be the most diverse population, phenotypically speaking, body type, color eyes, hair and skin, personality types, etc

    Diversity should be its force. ;)

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  37. @Anonymous

    where they would have to compete with aggressive, large black girls.
     
    Not just "aggressive," but also virulently racist. What white kid in his/her right mind would willingly enter a locker room where he's the only one of his kind and surrounded by angry Africans talking smack about cracker this and peckerwood that? From both personal experience as well as confidential conversations with other very big athletic white guys, I can unequivocally say that African behavior pushes a lot of otherwise capable white kids away from team sports like this and into things like swimming, diving, golf, lacrosse, skiing, motorsports, hockey, etc. We may still play b-ball with our (non-angry racist African) friends, but that's it. For me, the real loss there was football and the closing off of opportunities for athletic scholarships. But until you've experienced situations where you're the only white guy (or one of just a tiny minority of whites) in an overwhelmingly African environment, you simply have no conception of how unpleasant it is.

    “For me, the real loss there was football and the closing off of opportunities for athletic scholarships. But until you’ve experienced situations where you’re the only white guy (or one of just a tiny minority of whites) in an overwhelmingly African environment, you simply have no conception of how unpleasant it is”

    I’ve been in a front row seat for this and as i was told “you’re faster than me, stronger than me and a better player than me but you’re not black so you don’t have a chance”

    that’s the reality.

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  38. @interesting
    "Black amen are physically superior to white men"


    and/or recruiters will simply not look at white guys, same with football. those in charge will fall all over themselves to prove a black guy can play quarterback but at the same time ignore white guys for anything other than their 'approved' positions.

    there was a season where all the top running backs in the Chicago area were white, not one got an offer to any divison 1 college

    I am very skeptical of this. Recruiters have all the incentives to bring the best

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    Agree, but to recruiters it's a pure numbers game and not only do they miss but they miss often. For one example see Hunter Renfro v. Minka Fitzpatrick in 2016 National Championship. Walk on Freshman absolutely owned 5 star Freshman recruit. Anecdotal I know but there are thousands of kids like Renfro out there that don't even get a look and it's primarily due to preconceived notions based on race.
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  39. @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    In the "Ewa Swoboda" video, all the runner seem to have narrower-than-average hips (do they really?), which is to be expected for a fast-running body type. But look at 1:53. At the end of the race, all the runners must brace themselves as they slam into a padded(?) wall. That's no way to stage a race. Wouldn't runners have faster times if they didn't have to anticipate a body-slam and could decelerate more normally?

    Mark Spahn, You’re from WNY, when we ran track at the local Jesuit Prep school their track ended about 10 yards or less from a fence. You just naturally slowed before you hit the finish line and then the fence. Their runners were used to pulling up just after the finish.

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  40. @Anonymous

    where they would have to compete with aggressive, large black girls.
     
    Not just "aggressive," but also virulently racist. What white kid in his/her right mind would willingly enter a locker room where he's the only one of his kind and surrounded by angry Africans talking smack about cracker this and peckerwood that? From both personal experience as well as confidential conversations with other very big athletic white guys, I can unequivocally say that African behavior pushes a lot of otherwise capable white kids away from team sports like this and into things like swimming, diving, golf, lacrosse, skiing, motorsports, hockey, etc. We may still play b-ball with our (non-angry racist African) friends, but that's it. For me, the real loss there was football and the closing off of opportunities for athletic scholarships. But until you've experienced situations where you're the only white guy (or one of just a tiny minority of whites) in an overwhelmingly African environment, you simply have no conception of how unpleasant it is.

    Stan, funny but white football player, Richie Incognito was accused of bullying big, black Jonathon Martin when they both played for the Dolphins. Martin went public with his accusations, and Incognito was sent packing. His career was resurrected in Buffalo this year. Big difference was that Incognito was one of only a few whites on Miami’s team.

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  41. Seran says:
    @Anonymous

    where they would have to compete with aggressive, large black girls.
     
    Not just "aggressive," but also virulently racist. What white kid in his/her right mind would willingly enter a locker room where he's the only one of his kind and surrounded by angry Africans talking smack about cracker this and peckerwood that? From both personal experience as well as confidential conversations with other very big athletic white guys, I can unequivocally say that African behavior pushes a lot of otherwise capable white kids away from team sports like this and into things like swimming, diving, golf, lacrosse, skiing, motorsports, hockey, etc. We may still play b-ball with our (non-angry racist African) friends, but that's it. For me, the real loss there was football and the closing off of opportunities for athletic scholarships. But until you've experienced situations where you're the only white guy (or one of just a tiny minority of whites) in an overwhelmingly African environment, you simply have no conception of how unpleasant it is.

    Blacks cannot be racist, they can only be avolic.

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  42. I’m sorry, but are we really supposed to care about the NBA all-star game? It’s NHL season, after all. MLB’s all star game is still more meaningful. Just so long as no riots, drive bys, burning the city down, etc occur, simply because the West beat the East (or vice versa). If the host city can remain relatively safe post-game then it was a total win for whoever hosted it this yr.

    And anyway, after the Super Bowl, the NCAA tournament is US’s second biggest watched annual event. NBA finals don’t even come close to those numbers.

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    Just tried to watch the all-star game. Unwatchable. What a bloat fest of black narcissism. They used to actually care about the competition.

    One of the finer moments in the games was when Julius Irving gave a gracious speech to a crowd that wanted a white player to win MVP. That was edgy. This is floating pablum.

    , @UWorlds
    How is baseball 'more meaningful'? They are all great athletics, really color doesn't matter. Who cares about numbers? The NBA is great around the world.
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  43. Brutusale says:
    @Anonymous
    Two conclusions:

    1. Black amen are physically superior to white men

    2. Black men are adored by white girls
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  44. gbloco says:

    I agree — I think the biggest single reason is early maturation. I remember playing against a future England captain of rugby at 13 and the guy was already 6’3 and very clearly post puberty. I think he topped out at 6’5. He went all the way up the England school-boy ranks because of his size. Meanwhile a good friend of mine who is the same height put on 6 inches at university and so never got into the school rugby team.

    In Oceania it is a similar story where the Polynesian boys also mature much earlier and so crowd out the boys of European descent at all junior levels.

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  45. @Reg Cæsar
    Why not have US- and foreign-born teams? "East" and "West" have little meaning in professional sports.

    Why not have US- and foreign-born teams? “East” and “West” have little meaning in professional sports.

    They have plenty of meaning in the NBA, where the difference between the West and East was huge from the late ’90′s until this year.

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    Yeah, but are the players themselves from the East or West, or just the franchises? Who cares about "conferences"?

    Baseball used to have two separate leagues. Those All-Star Games meant something.
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  46. @granesperanzablanco
    My theory based on no data is that American born whites tend to come from groups with relatively short arms and perhaps shorter legs relative to their height which is a disadvantage in basketball

    There is a disproportionate number of European basketball players from the Balkans, Turkey, Baltics and Russia.

    Take a look at Andre Kirilenko or that new Latvian kid on the Knicks and tell me if your have ever seen an Irish American or Italian with those body proportions?

    My theory based on no data is that American born whites tend to come from groups with relatively short arms and perhaps shorter legs relative to their height which is a disadvantage in basketball

    I think your theory has quite a bit of explanatory power. In recent years the NBA draft fanatics have become a bit obsessed with ‘wingspan’, i.e. measuring outstretched arms across the shoulders from fingertip to fingertip. I’ve read that for average white people, wingspan = height. I’ve measured my own, and that’s exactly the case; my height and wingspan are equal.

    But if you look at an NBA draft list or roster, you’ll find that almost all players have wingspans that exceed their heights, sometimes by as much as five or six inches — especially the black players. This gives them a significant advantage, in that their reach (so useful in basketball) is increased without adding any cumbersome body weight that impedes quickness and leaping ability.

    Another factor is neck length. What matters is how high your shoulders are off the floor, not the top of your head, so a short neck is ‘better’ than a swanlike one.

    A perfect example of both of these factors is Kevin McHale (who, incidentally, is very white indeed). He’s nearly seven feet tall, but if you take a close look at photos of him when he was playing in the NBA, he’s very oddly proportioned (see this photo, for instance). He has incredibly long, gangly arms, and his head looks as if it’s plopped directly down on his shoulders. His functional height for basketball was therefore excellent, and, not coincidentally, he’s recognized as one of the greatest post-up players in NBA history. He couldn’t be stopped, even by players inches taller than him.

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    It's true that blacks on average have much greater wingspans than whites. The most extreme example I can recall is that of heavyweight boxer Sonny Liston, whose stood 6 ft tall and had a wingspan of 7 ft.
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  47. One reason is that whites mature more slowly than blacks. For a white athlete, playing with blacks is the same as playing with older kids, which is a huge disadvantage, as studies of soccer success by birth month have shown in Europe.

    Another reason is that blacks create a toxic environment that whites will generally do anything to avoid. Either one has to forget about social dominance (or even social parity), or one has to be willing to risk one’s life over the most trivial of conflicts.

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  48. @Unzerker
    Since we are talking about race and sports it's worth to mention that a Polish 18 year old girl, Ewa Swoboda, broke the World Junior Record in the 60m sprint this Friday.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yIItdnfjCo

    And Dafne Schppers, world champion in the 200m sprint, ran the 9th fastest 60 meters ever this Saturday.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDAYSw-Fys8

    The future seems bright for white women sprinters.

    Since we are talking about race and sports it’s worth to mention that a Polish 18 year old girl, Ewa Swoboda, broke the World Junior Record in the 60m sprint this Friday.

    Wow – I’m stunned by the beauty and femininity of the first couple of girls featured in the first video you presented.

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    Gives us another opportunity to revisit the lovely Aussie hurdler Michelle Jenneke:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EIveHwQcgU
    , @Bill
    They are muscled and hipless. They look almost like high fashion models---i.e. like 13 year old boys. Except not so emaciated. Feminine they are not. Or at least not relative to white girls.
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  49. @Rifleman
    You might think, a priori, that growing up competing against the best black talent would be good for tall white guys.

    But instead it seems to drive them into tennis or water polo or whatever.


    Well if these "whites" or "white guys" or "white males" can't or wont compete then there is no excuse for their lack of representation.

    You can't sit back with a "white male" entitlement complex and get surpassed by better, braver more competitive males, black in sports and sex (with "hot White women"), Asians in academia and science, hispanics in low end manual labor, and then adopt a "white male" persecution complex.

    Stand up, compete, represent and see what happens.

    I think we can see what's happening and we all know who's to blame.

    Most people on this site are not all together honest about that.

    I think we can see what’s happening and we all know who’s to blame.

    Yeah, and it’s sure as hell not the victims. That was an awful comment, wrong in almost every respect.

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  50. most good white basketball players these days

    There are no good white basketball players.

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  51. @unit472
    If I want to watch skilled ball handling a trained seal is enough. Great leaping ability, a house cat can outperform anyone in the NBA. As exercise basketball is worthwhile, as a spectator sport it is repetitive and boring.

    Cats not only have great leaping ablility, they have fantastic paw-eye coordination.

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  52. @AndrewR
    Stories please

    Not sure what my “stories” could impart beyond what I already wrote. I’ll never forget my first away b-ball game in an urban school though. Our bus pulled into the parking lot, filled with loitering Africans all glaring at us (all white and/or Jewish), and we had to walk a gauntlet from the bus into the school (Africans lining both sides of the hallway glaring), into the locker room for a moment’s peace and quiet, then into the raucous gymnasium. Stands full of glaring Africans shouting white boy this and cracker that – abundantly clear we were hated passionately – behavior that wouldn’t for a moment be tolerated in a white school. Of course I later learned this was just typical African behavior, but the hostility and chaos was utterly unlike anything seen before in white schools or Arab schools. Again, anyone who hasn’t been immersed in African behavior can’t really comprehend it. Most whites would simply wet their pants. For the typical suburban white kid with athleticism, once he’s been subjected to the African American paradigm, he’s going to rethink his choice of sports. For me, that wasn’t my first experience with Africans nor, by a very long shot, my last. But it did inform my decisions to eschew b-ball and football for motorsports, skiing, soccer, and golf. And as I’ve met other super-sized white guys in life since, the subject has come up and with similar tales. All of which reinforces Steve’s idea that white guys who last until college/pro level do so in white cocooned areas where they’re too invested to quit by the time they encounter the African paradigm.

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    Lol how many "Arab" schools have you played at
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  53. @The Last Real Calvinist

    My theory based on no data is that American born whites tend to come from groups with relatively short arms and perhaps shorter legs relative to their height which is a disadvantage in basketball

     

    I think your theory has quite a bit of explanatory power. In recent years the NBA draft fanatics have become a bit obsessed with 'wingspan', i.e. measuring outstretched arms across the shoulders from fingertip to fingertip. I've read that for average white people, wingspan = height. I've measured my own, and that's exactly the case; my height and wingspan are equal.

    But if you look at an NBA draft list or roster, you'll find that almost all players have wingspans that exceed their heights, sometimes by as much as five or six inches -- especially the black players. This gives them a significant advantage, in that their reach (so useful in basketball) is increased without adding any cumbersome body weight that impedes quickness and leaping ability.

    Another factor is neck length. What matters is how high your shoulders are off the floor, not the top of your head, so a short neck is 'better' than a swanlike one.

    A perfect example of both of these factors is Kevin McHale (who, incidentally, is very white indeed). He's nearly seven feet tall, but if you take a close look at photos of him when he was playing in the NBA, he's very oddly proportioned (see this photo, for instance). He has incredibly long, gangly arms, and his head looks as if it's plopped directly down on his shoulders. His functional height for basketball was therefore excellent, and, not coincidentally, he's recognized as one of the greatest post-up players in NBA history. He couldn't be stopped, even by players inches taller than him.

    It’s true that blacks on average have much greater wingspans than whites. The most extreme example I can recall is that of heavyweight boxer Sonny Liston, whose stood 6 ft tall and had a wingspan of 7 ft.

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    The most extreme example I can recall is that of heavyweight boxer Sonny Liston, whose stood 6 ft tall and had a wingspan of 7 ft.
     
    I remember the suggestion that an average man could win bets by claiming his wrists were as big as Liston's. That stat doesn't vary much among men.
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  54. @interesting
    "Black amen are physically superior to white men"


    and/or recruiters will simply not look at white guys, same with football. those in charge will fall all over themselves to prove a black guy can play quarterback but at the same time ignore white guys for anything other than their 'approved' positions.

    there was a season where all the top running backs in the Chicago area were white, not one got an offer to any divison 1 college

    there was a season where all the top running backs in the Chicago area were white, not one got an offer to any divison 1 college

    http://www.gamecocksonline.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/ryan_brewer_115806.html

    Ryan Brewer was a tailback who was named Mr. Football in Ohio in the 1990′s.

    He is white.

    He didn’t get an offer from Ohio State, so Lou Holtz brought him down to Columbia to play for USC. In an amazing twist of fate, South Carolina wound up playing play Ohio State in two bowl games while Brewer was at USC (the only two football matchups ever between the schools).

    Two wins for the Gamecocks.

    In the first one, a 24-7 win, Brewer scored all three of the Gamecocks’ touchdowns while rushing for 109 yards on 19 carries and catching three passes for 92 yards. In the second game, a 31-28 win, he played a lesser role but was a significant contributor, with 61 yards on five carries, two receptions for 17 yards, and two punt returns for 16 yards.

    That was pretty sweet.

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  55. hhsiii says:
    @Paul Jolliffe
    Steve,

    Systemic racism against white developing players may exist, but I haven't seen it in twenty years of coaching at various levels. I think it's more likely that parents of good, tall white athletic boys recognize early on that their sons can be successful in a number of sports, notably baseball, football and basketball, but the natural genetic advantages in quickness and jumping ability that the best black athletes enjoy mean that the white kids would have to have incredible skill advantages just to stay even.

    Basketball, more than football, and far more than baseball, is a sport that rewards natural genetic advantages. Even if you can't shoot, why if you're quick enough and can jump high enough to keep grabbing the ball, you'll eventually get it to go in. The best young black kids can do that better than most of the best young white kids.

    Most white parents are not stupid and can intuit this or see it in action at a young age. So, predictably, they make the rational decision to push their sons away from basketball and into other (often much more skill-based) sports.

    This is especially true for white parents of taller, athletic daughters. Very few white parents are pushing their daughters into AAU or travel basketball, where they would have to compete with aggressive, large black girls. Instead, white parents are pushing their tall daughters into travel volleyball.

    Travel youth basketball results in heavily black high school teams for both boys and girls.

    And, that travel volleyball, travel soccer and travel baseball results in almost all-white teams later on in high school is, as you have noted many times, for both black and white parents, a feature, not a bug.

    Grayson Allen looks like he’ll be a good one, although he took 4 steps to make that game-winner yesterday.

    Probably if they actually called traveling and palming correctly you’d get more white kids in basketball.

    Conversely it would be great to get more african-americans back in baseball. The best athlete in baseball today is Mike Trout, who may be one of the greatest of all time. When he was 17 down in Millville, NJ the Angels scout wrote on his report: “Best player on the planet” and he meant then.

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  56. Hacienda says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    I'm sorry, but are we really supposed to care about the NBA all-star game? It's NHL season, after all. MLB's all star game is still more meaningful. Just so long as no riots, drive bys, burning the city down, etc occur, simply because the West beat the East (or vice versa). If the host city can remain relatively safe post-game then it was a total win for whoever hosted it this yr.

    And anyway, after the Super Bowl, the NCAA tournament is US's second biggest watched annual event. NBA finals don't even come close to those numbers.

    Just tried to watch the all-star game. Unwatchable. What a bloat fest of black narcissism. They used to actually care about the competition.

    One of the finer moments in the games was when Julius Irving gave a gracious speech to a crowd that wanted a white player to win MVP. That was edgy. This is floating pablum.

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    Just tried to watch the all-star game. Unwatchable.
     
    I agree. It was horrible and virtually unwatchable. They should replace it with a tournament of 3-on-3 competitions with teams of the All-Stars selected by the fans.
    , @EriK

    Just tried to watch the all-star game. Unwatchable.
     
    I haven't watched the NBA All-star game since 1983.
    https://vimeo.com/34606761
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  57. Marty T says:
    @Paul Jolliffe
    Steve,

    Systemic racism against white developing players may exist, but I haven't seen it in twenty years of coaching at various levels. I think it's more likely that parents of good, tall white athletic boys recognize early on that their sons can be successful in a number of sports, notably baseball, football and basketball, but the natural genetic advantages in quickness and jumping ability that the best black athletes enjoy mean that the white kids would have to have incredible skill advantages just to stay even.

    Basketball, more than football, and far more than baseball, is a sport that rewards natural genetic advantages. Even if you can't shoot, why if you're quick enough and can jump high enough to keep grabbing the ball, you'll eventually get it to go in. The best young black kids can do that better than most of the best young white kids.

    Most white parents are not stupid and can intuit this or see it in action at a young age. So, predictably, they make the rational decision to push their sons away from basketball and into other (often much more skill-based) sports.

    This is especially true for white parents of taller, athletic daughters. Very few white parents are pushing their daughters into AAU or travel basketball, where they would have to compete with aggressive, large black girls. Instead, white parents are pushing their tall daughters into travel volleyball.

    Travel youth basketball results in heavily black high school teams for both boys and girls.

    And, that travel volleyball, travel soccer and travel baseball results in almost all-white teams later on in high school is, as you have noted many times, for both black and white parents, a feature, not a bug.

    Not surprising white parents would steer their taller daughters towards volleyball. Not just about the competition, also about the peer group and the parental peer group (and also very little chance of serious injury playing volleyball).

    One sport you forgot is lacrosse, which is probably the fastest growing youth sport and is almost all white. Lacrosse doesn’t have a lucrative pro league yet but can help you get a degree from an Ivy, or Duke, or Notre Dame. Of course the powers that be are trying to get more blacks involved in lacrosse too. White people can’t stand being a part of an all-white group, apparently.

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  58. Marty T says:
    @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    In the "Ewa Swoboda" video, all the runner seem to have narrower-than-average hips (do they really?), which is to be expected for a fast-running body type. But look at 1:53. At the end of the race, all the runners must brace themselves as they slam into a padded(?) wall. That's no way to stage a race. Wouldn't runners have faster times if they didn't have to anticipate a body-slam and could decelerate more normally?

    Yeah, what the heck is that? It was kind of funny I must say.

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  59. @Rev. Right
    "And, that travel volleyball, travel soccer and travel baseball results in almost all-white teams later on in high school is, as you have noted many times, for both black and white parents, a feature, not a bug."

    A friend of mine, a guy I played basketball with in college (and who still holds the school career scoring record), recently told me he his son got a volleyball scholarship to Harvard. And he's white.

    So, yeah.

    Actually, your friend’s son didn’t get a volleyball scholarship to Harvard. The Ivy League prohibits its member schools from awarding athletic scholarships.

    What the young man actually got was an athletic admissions slot to Harvard.

    The Ivies allow each member school to set aside a limited number of admission slots specifically for recruited varsity athletes. All must meet a minimum score on a metric the Ivy League calls an “Academic Index”, based largely on high school GPA and SAT/ACT scores; the minimum value is set so that on average, all recruited athletes fall no worse than 1 SD below the credentials of the student body as a whole.

    See this New York Times story (soft paywall):

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/25/sports/before-athletic-recruiting-in-the-ivy-league-some-math.html

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  60. Steve,

    You know this already, but many of your readers may not be aware that Joakim Noah is a second-generation example of “sons of black professional athletes and hot white moms.”

    Yannick Noah’s parents are a Cameroonian-born professional soccer player and his white wife.

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    Strangely enough, Joakim Noah looks more like a mulatto than like a quadroon. Hell, he looks more black than his dad! I posit a non-paternal event.
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  61. @ben tillman

    Why not have US- and foreign-born teams? “East” and “West” have little meaning in professional sports.
     
    They have plenty of meaning in the NBA, where the difference between the West and East was huge from the late '90's until this year.

    Yeah, but are the players themselves from the East or West, or just the franchises? Who cares about “conferences”?

    Baseball used to have two separate leagues. Those All-Star Games meant something.

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    Reg, MLBaseball's All-Star game does have a value. The winning team , American or National, gets home field advantage during the World Series....that is big.
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  62. @Hapalong Cassidy
    It's true that blacks on average have much greater wingspans than whites. The most extreme example I can recall is that of heavyweight boxer Sonny Liston, whose stood 6 ft tall and had a wingspan of 7 ft.

    The most extreme example I can recall is that of heavyweight boxer Sonny Liston, whose stood 6 ft tall and had a wingspan of 7 ft.

    I remember the suggestion that an average man could win bets by claiming his wrists were as big as Liston’s. That stat doesn’t vary much among men.

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  63. I think Gordon Hayward might be an All Star next year he’s an American white guy. He is so good because his dad who is 5’10″ taught him how to play point guard and then he had a surprise growth spurt at the end of high school that took him to 6’8″. So he can handle shoot and pass like a guard with NBA small forward size.

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  64. Realist says:
    @Anonymous
    Two conclusions:

    1. Black amen are physically superior to white men

    2. Black men are adored by white girls

    Sports are a form of entertainment that has a very low level of utility to humanity. In intellectual endeavors whites are overwhelmingly superior to blacks.

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  65. Wally says:

    It’s just not that complex.

    With generally much lower IQs there has be something for these guys to do. Brain surgeons and engineers they are not.

    I enjoy watching whites go ooh & ah knowing all along they are comfortable to have blacks as trained seals who they praise in the hopes that it will make those whites seem anti-racist. ‘See, I like NBA basketball, so I’m liberal and not a racist’ is how it goes.

    And let’s remember that out all the blacks trying to be professional athletes, a very small percentage actually succeed. Then what have you? Millions of failures with not a speck of skills for making a living.

    And it’s all whitey’s fault.

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  66. bomag says:
    @Rifleman
    You might think, a priori, that growing up competing against the best black talent would be good for tall white guys.

    But instead it seems to drive them into tennis or water polo or whatever.


    Well if these "whites" or "white guys" or "white males" can't or wont compete then there is no excuse for their lack of representation.

    You can't sit back with a "white male" entitlement complex and get surpassed by better, braver more competitive males, black in sports and sex (with "hot White women"), Asians in academia and science, hispanics in low end manual labor, and then adopt a "white male" persecution complex.

    Stand up, compete, represent and see what happens.

    I think we can see what's happening and we all know who's to blame.

    Most people on this site are not all together honest about that.

    Stand up, compete, represent and see what happens.

    Modern life is less meritocratic than you imagine.

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  67. BB753 says:
    @Galactic Overlord
    Steve,

    You know this already, but many of your readers may not be aware that Joakim Noah is a second-generation example of "sons of black professional athletes and hot white moms."

    Yannick Noah's parents are a Cameroonian-born professional soccer player and his white wife.

    Strangely enough, Joakim Noah looks more like a mulatto than like a quadroon. Hell, he looks more black than his dad! I posit a non-paternal event.

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  68. Lupa says:

    I’d rather see the NBA All-star team 100% black year after year, than see blacks short cut into universities and corporate chairs through affirmative action.

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  69. @Hacienda
    Just tried to watch the all-star game. Unwatchable. What a bloat fest of black narcissism. They used to actually care about the competition.

    One of the finer moments in the games was when Julius Irving gave a gracious speech to a crowd that wanted a white player to win MVP. That was edgy. This is floating pablum.

    Just tried to watch the all-star game. Unwatchable.

    I agree. It was horrible and virtually unwatchable. They should replace it with a tournament of 3-on-3 competitions with teams of the All-Stars selected by the fans.

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    "They should replace it with a tournament of 3-on-3 competitions with teams of the All-Stars selected by the fans."

    Without refereeing. First to 11, by ones and twos. King of the court style. Have it on the courts on the So. California Coast.
    , @UWorlds
    Don't watch...I believe you guys may be a bit ummmm what's a word that starts with r and ends with t?
    , @Hibernian
    Very Canadian. Will the commissioner or one of his minions try to shame one of the players into withdrawing by asking him if his kids will be proud of his weak, over the hill self playing in the All-Star game?
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  70. NickG says:

    You might think, a priori, that growing up competing against the best black talent would be good for tall white guys.

    Self selection, that is to say exercising freedom of association, may be a factor. It could be that the white guys just do not want to hang out with the black guys, and maybe vice-versa. I’m a Brit that spends much of the year in Pretoria, South Africa and here in ‘The Regime’ it is noticeable how folks self select, exercise their freedom of association according to race. One typical example, just before Christmas I was in a steak-house restaurant in Pretoria and the staff of a nearby school came in for a their staff Christmas lunch. The black and white staff automatically sat separately.

    My 18 yr old son, who has just last month started university studying Industrial Engineering, said that the kids in his reasonably fancy selective school, which is about 20% black, self segregated. Interestingly, despite this, he had a few black friends, some visited us at home until fairly recently, but now over the last couple of years this has gradually stopped.

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    NickG, Self segregation is the norm. There was a bestselling book, published in 1997, titled "Why Are All the Black Kids Sitting Together in the Cafeteria." The book was written by Beverly Daniel Tatum, PhD. Tatum, a black woman, is a psychologist who noticed that self segregation by race ( race existed in 1997) occurred in high school, college and even corporate settings. Doesn't seem that much has changed in 19 years since the book was published, except you are not suppose to notice.
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  71. AndrewR says:
    @Stan d Mute
    Not sure what my "stories" could impart beyond what I already wrote. I'll never forget my first away b-ball game in an urban school though. Our bus pulled into the parking lot, filled with loitering Africans all glaring at us (all white and/or Jewish), and we had to walk a gauntlet from the bus into the school (Africans lining both sides of the hallway glaring), into the locker room for a moment's peace and quiet, then into the raucous gymnasium. Stands full of glaring Africans shouting white boy this and cracker that - abundantly clear we were hated passionately - behavior that wouldn't for a moment be tolerated in a white school. Of course I later learned this was just typical African behavior, but the hostility and chaos was utterly unlike anything seen before in white schools or Arab schools. Again, anyone who hasn't been immersed in African behavior can't really comprehend it. Most whites would simply wet their pants. For the typical suburban white kid with athleticism, once he's been subjected to the African American paradigm, he's going to rethink his choice of sports. For me, that wasn't my first experience with Africans nor, by a very long shot, my last. But it did inform my decisions to eschew b-ball and football for motorsports, skiing, soccer, and golf. And as I've met other super-sized white guys in life since, the subject has come up and with similar tales. All of which reinforces Steve's idea that white guys who last until college/pro level do so in white cocooned areas where they're too invested to quit by the time they encounter the African paradigm.

    Lol how many “Arab” schools have you played at

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  72. Anon7 says:

    This future was predicted in 1904 in this sardonic topical cartoon about the ultimate result of Harvard’s adding its first black football player:

    The creator of this cartoon was James Montgomery Flagg, who is better known for having created the famous WWI poster of Uncle Sam saying “I want you.”

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  73. The very nugget of undermining white, western, male self confidence is taking place right here, in the NBA and NFL where the public is presented with the spectacle of all black athletes garnering all the accolades that society has to offer: fame, prestige, fine women and oodles of dough.

    It’s no wonder young, western, white males have become feminized. They no longer see western white men as Homeric heroes struggling on the field of battle and, having no heroes, they become dispirited and give up before even doing battle.

    Doing away with all black participation in all traditional western sports would be a good starting place for reclaiming (and redeeming) our culture.

    Let negroes organize their own leagues in which they play their own sports by their own rules. After all, through their behavior on the field and court they have demonstrated their basic incompatibility with white values and rules of sportsmanship anyway so let’s just acknowledge the fact and leave them free to be who they want to be.

    I’m sure the Reverend Jesse will agree to go along with this since he regards black athletes in the employ of rich white men as little more than slaves anyway. So, in the interest not only of setting them free to actualize their potential but also to save our own Souls, let’s stop oppressing these poor, beleaguered guys.

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  74. AndrewR says:
    @Marty T
    Not surprising white parents would steer their taller daughters towards volleyball. Not just about the competition, also about the peer group and the parental peer group (and also very little chance of serious injury playing volleyball).

    One sport you forgot is lacrosse, which is probably the fastest growing youth sport and is almost all white. Lacrosse doesn't have a lucrative pro league yet but can help you get a degree from an Ivy, or Duke, or Notre Dame. Of course the powers that be are trying to get more blacks involved in lacrosse too. White people can't stand being a part of an all-white group, apparently.

    Wrong. (((White people))) can’t stand all-white groups.

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  75. TWalsh2 says:
    @granesperanzablanco
    I am very skeptical of this. Recruiters have all the incentives to bring the best

    Agree, but to recruiters it’s a pure numbers game and not only do they miss but they miss often. For one example see Hunter Renfro v. Minka Fitzpatrick in 2016 National Championship. Walk on Freshman absolutely owned 5 star Freshman recruit. Anecdotal I know but there are thousands of kids like Renfro out there that don’t even get a look and it’s primarily due to preconceived notions based on race.

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  76. @Reg Cæsar
    Yeah, but are the players themselves from the East or West, or just the franchises? Who cares about "conferences"?

    Baseball used to have two separate leagues. Those All-Star Games meant something.

    Reg, MLBaseball’s All-Star game does have a value. The winning team , American or National, gets home field advantage during the World Series….that is big.

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  77. Brutusale says:
    @ben tillman

    Since we are talking about race and sports it’s worth to mention that a Polish 18 year old girl, Ewa Swoboda, broke the World Junior Record in the 60m sprint this Friday.
     
    Wow - I'm stunned by the beauty and femininity of the first couple of girls featured in the first video you presented.

    Gives us another opportunity to revisit the lovely Aussie hurdler Michelle Jenneke:

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  78. @NickG

    You might think, a priori, that growing up competing against the best black talent would be good for tall white guys.
     
    Self selection, that is to say exercising freedom of association, may be a factor. It could be that the white guys just do not want to hang out with the black guys, and maybe vice-versa. I'm a Brit that spends much of the year in Pretoria, South Africa and here in 'The Regime' it is noticeable how folks self select, exercise their freedom of association according to race. One typical example, just before Christmas I was in a steak-house restaurant in Pretoria and the staff of a nearby school came in for a their staff Christmas lunch. The black and white staff automatically sat separately.

    My 18 yr old son, who has just last month started university studying Industrial Engineering, said that the kids in his reasonably fancy selective school, which is about 20% black, self segregated. Interestingly, despite this, he had a few black friends, some visited us at home until fairly recently, but now over the last couple of years this has gradually stopped.

    NickG, Self segregation is the norm. There was a bestselling book, published in 1997, titled “Why Are All the Black Kids Sitting Together in the Cafeteria.” The book was written by Beverly Daniel Tatum, PhD. Tatum, a black woman, is a psychologist who noticed that self segregation by race ( race existed in 1997) occurred in high school, college and even corporate settings. Doesn’t seem that much has changed in 19 years since the book was published, except you are not suppose to notice.

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  79. Bill says:
    @ben tillman

    Since we are talking about race and sports it’s worth to mention that a Polish 18 year old girl, Ewa Swoboda, broke the World Junior Record in the 60m sprint this Friday.
     
    Wow - I'm stunned by the beauty and femininity of the first couple of girls featured in the first video you presented.

    They are muscled and hipless. They look almost like high fashion models—i.e. like 13 year old boys. Except not so emaciated. Feminine they are not. Or at least not relative to white girls.

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    They are muscled and hipless. They look almost like high fashion models—i.e. like 13 year old boys. Except not so emaciated. Feminine they are not. Or at least not relative to white girls.
     
    The first one had hips. She finished last. Couldn't see the hips of the second one (who finished next to last), but her face was feminine -- not dikey or reflective of male hormones.
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  80. EriK says:
    @Hacienda
    Just tried to watch the all-star game. Unwatchable. What a bloat fest of black narcissism. They used to actually care about the competition.

    One of the finer moments in the games was when Julius Irving gave a gracious speech to a crowd that wanted a white player to win MVP. That was edgy. This is floating pablum.

    Just tried to watch the all-star game. Unwatchable.

    I haven’t watched the NBA All-star game since 1983.

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  81. @Another Canadian

    Just tried to watch the all-star game. Unwatchable.
     
    I agree. It was horrible and virtually unwatchable. They should replace it with a tournament of 3-on-3 competitions with teams of the All-Stars selected by the fans.

    “They should replace it with a tournament of 3-on-3 competitions with teams of the All-Stars selected by the fans.”

    Without refereeing. First to 11, by ones and twos. King of the court style. Have it on the courts on the So. California Coast.

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  82. Fredrik says:
    @AndrewR
    Lol how many "Arab" schools have you played at

    If it was in Michigan then quite a few…

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    Indeed it was! Alex Manoogian was the big one, but there were a couple of others.
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  83. DPG says:

    My personal theory, biased by experience from soccer, is that the “win now” mentality in youth sports biases competitive youth sports towards players who hit puberty early. This biases elite youth sports towards black athletes.

    If a white player with a lot of natural talent doesn’t get his growth spurt and muscle up until 16, it’s already too late to get into the AAU circuits that feature elite talent for college coaches. At the age of 14, they get dominated through sheer athleticism. Once they “catch up” in athleticism by the time they’re 18, the talent means they can once again compete. But by then it may be too late (they switched to lacrosse or some white sport).

    European soccer clubs will nurture talented but small players in their training academies, because they’re not under any pressure to have their 14 year olds win. Private coaches in the US need to win because that’s what the parents pay them for (and also how they attract the next generation of good players, thus perpetuating their reputation as successful coaches).

    Tl;dr. If you look like Lebron at the age of 16, you’ll get courted by a lot more teams than you will if you look like Steve Nash.

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  84. @Bill
    They are muscled and hipless. They look almost like high fashion models---i.e. like 13 year old boys. Except not so emaciated. Feminine they are not. Or at least not relative to white girls.

    They are muscled and hipless. They look almost like high fashion models—i.e. like 13 year old boys. Except not so emaciated. Feminine they are not. Or at least not relative to white girls.

    The first one had hips. She finished last. Couldn’t see the hips of the second one (who finished next to last), but her face was feminine — not dikey or reflective of male hormones.

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  85. UWorlds says:

    Mulatto??? Really? Is this the slave era? Also no one says anything about hockey being all white. They can afford the equipment, most blacks can’t…it’s not rocket science, I don’t know why you guys are talking about it.

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    UWorld, Dominik Hasek , the future HOF goalie, runs a hockey program for Buffalo's inner city youth, but hockey, at all levels requires crazy dedicated parents, not just a generous patron. Equipment is pricey but all the rinks around here have swap meets where you can buy great used equipment at reasonable prices. Yes, you are right, not too many blacks in hockey, but a lot, maybe the majority of pro players, still come from Canada and Europe, which have few blacks. However, the Buffalo Sabres played Montreal the other night and at one point PK Subran , Montreal's all star defenseman, and Buffalo forwards Evander Kane and Justin Bailey were all in the penalty box. Probably the first time three black hockey player were penalized at the same time. Profiling? Ice to prison pipeline?
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  86. UWorlds says:

    Why is this on my immigration reform feed? Blacks are not immigrants, we have been here since the beginning of this country, plus we really did not have a choice, unlike immigrants.

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  87. UWorlds says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    I'm sorry, but are we really supposed to care about the NBA all-star game? It's NHL season, after all. MLB's all star game is still more meaningful. Just so long as no riots, drive bys, burning the city down, etc occur, simply because the West beat the East (or vice versa). If the host city can remain relatively safe post-game then it was a total win for whoever hosted it this yr.

    And anyway, after the Super Bowl, the NCAA tournament is US's second biggest watched annual event. NBA finals don't even come close to those numbers.

    How is baseball ‘more meaningful’? They are all great athletics, really color doesn’t matter. Who cares about numbers? The NBA is great around the world.

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  88. UWorlds says:
    @Another Canadian

    Just tried to watch the all-star game. Unwatchable.
     
    I agree. It was horrible and virtually unwatchable. They should replace it with a tournament of 3-on-3 competitions with teams of the All-Stars selected by the fans.

    Don’t watch…I believe you guys may be a bit ummmm what’s a word that starts with r and ends with t?

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    That word would be RighT?
    , @Unzerker
    RealisT?
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  89. UWorlds says:
    @Anonymous
    Two conclusions:

    1. Black amen are physically superior to white men

    2. Black men are adored by white girls

    But black men are stupid for thinking that white girls give them social standing in America. Most of the ones they marry are way beneath them!! They will marry a white waitress (O.J) or slut (Kanye), or someone they meet in the club (Jordan) but when it comes to a sister they have to be a millionaire. I think all black men suffer from very low self esteem. They will get the dumbest white girl and parade her around AND brag about it on social media (like you). Do you need a white girl to feel like a man? The dumbest men in the world, no one else looks to other races like black men!!

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    I think all black men suffer from very low self esteem.
     
    Steve,

    I have noticed that comment counts are important to you, and I'm not suggesting aggressive censorship, but this is either trolling or idiocy (or both). I hope you don't feel obligated to allow this type of nonsense through out of some Anglo-Saxon sense of fair play. Censoring disagreeable opinions is not the same as censoring nonsense.

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  90. UWorlds says:

    Are you American? Even though these people are white, they are not American and they don’t like you because you are American. White Americans are dumb…..Europeans don’t like you.

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  91. Marty [AKA "coot veal or cot deal"] says:
    @Prof. Woland
    As some sort of charity fund raiser, the NBA should turn one game each year into either indoor field hockey or soccer. In spite of how "great" these athletes are by putting the goal at the bottom instead of 10 feet up, it would instantly reverse all the advantages of height. In fact, it would probably render the most dominant players looking like fish out of water. Some of the guards might be pretty good but their high centers of gravity would leave them particularly vulnerable to checks and trips. Put them up against a junior college soccer team and see how well they play.

    Michael Jordan tried a similar experiment when he tried playing baseball and golf. Everybody just kept pitching him low and inside.

    “Everybody just kept pitching him low and inside.”

    Unlikely. That’s the easiest pitch to just drop the bathead on. Out of AA, it’s usually the slider away that keeps guys from the Show.

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  92. Hibernian says:
    @Another Canadian

    Just tried to watch the all-star game. Unwatchable.
     
    I agree. It was horrible and virtually unwatchable. They should replace it with a tournament of 3-on-3 competitions with teams of the All-Stars selected by the fans.

    Very Canadian. Will the commissioner or one of his minions try to shame one of the players into withdrawing by asking him if his kids will be proud of his weak, over the hill self playing in the All-Star game?

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  93. @george
    Hypothesis: White people that live near black people tend to be shorter than those in the areas colonized by tall Nordics with few Blacks.

    This is an interesting point, one that I have considered before.

    Brits are shorter and slighter than other Northern Europeans. The most-heavily-British area of the country, the South, is almost the most-heavily-black.

    One day, the lanky and lactose-tolerant Midwestern farm boys shall arise en masse to whitewash the NBA.

    (Or maybe not.)

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  94. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @UWorlds
    Don't watch...I believe you guys may be a bit ummmm what's a word that starts with r and ends with t?

    That word would be RighT?

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  95. Unzerker says:
    @UWorlds
    Don't watch...I believe you guys may be a bit ummmm what's a word that starts with r and ends with t?

    RealisT?

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  96. @UWorlds
    Mulatto??? Really? Is this the slave era? Also no one says anything about hockey being all white. They can afford the equipment, most blacks can't...it's not rocket science, I don't know why you guys are talking about it.

    UWorld, Dominik Hasek , the future HOF goalie, runs a hockey program for Buffalo’s inner city youth, but hockey, at all levels requires crazy dedicated parents, not just a generous patron. Equipment is pricey but all the rinks around here have swap meets where you can buy great used equipment at reasonable prices. Yes, you are right, not too many blacks in hockey, but a lot, maybe the majority of pro players, still come from Canada and Europe, which have few blacks. However, the Buffalo Sabres played Montreal the other night and at one point PK Subran , Montreal’s all star defenseman, and Buffalo forwards Evander Kane and Justin Bailey were all in the penalty box. Probably the first time three black hockey player were penalized at the same time. Profiling? Ice to prison pipeline?

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  97. juandos says:
    @Anonymous
    Two conclusions:

    1. Black amen are physically superior to white men

    2. Black men are adored by white girls

    Well donut city if you’re a white male/metrosexual from where I sit you seem to have very little self confidence and you’re painting with a very broad brush that all (?) white girls are mudsharks… That’s a tough sell…

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  98. Taco says:
    @UWorlds
    But black men are stupid for thinking that white girls give them social standing in America. Most of the ones they marry are way beneath them!! They will marry a white waitress (O.J) or slut (Kanye), or someone they meet in the club (Jordan) but when it comes to a sister they have to be a millionaire. I think all black men suffer from very low self esteem. They will get the dumbest white girl and parade her around AND brag about it on social media (like you). Do you need a white girl to feel like a man? The dumbest men in the world, no one else looks to other races like black men!!

    I think all black men suffer from very low self esteem.

    Steve,

    I have noticed that comment counts are important to you, and I’m not suggesting aggressive censorship, but this is either trolling or idiocy (or both). I hope you don’t feel obligated to allow this type of nonsense through out of some Anglo-Saxon sense of fair play. Censoring disagreeable opinions is not the same as censoring nonsense.

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  99. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Rifleman
    You might think, a priori, that growing up competing against the best black talent would be good for tall white guys.

    But instead it seems to drive them into tennis or water polo or whatever.


    Well if these "whites" or "white guys" or "white males" can't or wont compete then there is no excuse for their lack of representation.

    You can't sit back with a "white male" entitlement complex and get surpassed by better, braver more competitive males, black in sports and sex (with "hot White women"), Asians in academia and science, hispanics in low end manual labor, and then adopt a "white male" persecution complex.

    Stand up, compete, represent and see what happens.

    I think we can see what's happening and we all know who's to blame.

    Most people on this site are not all together honest about that.

    Ha ha ha! Take Rifleman’s comment and replace “whites”, “white guys” and “white males” and with “blacks”, “black guys” and “black males”. Then, replace “sports” with “science and academics”. Wait, you can’t say that! THATS RACISSS!

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  100. @Fredrik
    If it was in Michigan then quite a few...

    Indeed it was! Alex Manoogian was the big one, but there were a couple of others.

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