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From the National Post of Toronto:

Zimbabwe is selling its elephants to ‘anyone who wants wildlife’

As conflict grows between people and wildlife, African nations gathered on Tuesday to discuss a common elephant management policy

Ray Ndlovu, Bloomberg, June 25, 2019

Zimbabwe plans to sell elephants to Angola and is prepared to ship wild animals to any other interested countries as the southern African nation seeks to reduce its elephant population due to growing conflict between people and wildlife.

… Leaders of the four southern African nations that are home to more than half of the world’s African elephants gathered in Zimbabwe on Tuesday to discuss a common management policy and reiterate calls on the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species to relax some of its rules, including a moratorium on ivory sales.

… The four countries — Zimbabwe, Zambia, Namibia and Botswana — joined forces earlier this year to lobby CITES ahead of a global conference scheduled for August. They say they should be free to decide how to deal with their wildlife, and income from sales of ivory stockpiles can be used for conservation. Botswana says it has too many elephants, while Mupfumira said Zimbabwe had an “excess” of 30,000 of the animals.

Namibian President Hage Geingob and Zambia’s Edgar Lungu told delegates at the summit that the rights of communities living among elephants are being overlooked and there should be a “new deal” with CITES that allows them to benefit from wildlife.

President Mokgweetsi Masisi of Botswana, who oversaw the lifting of a hunting ban in May to enable villagers to shoot some elephants if they destroy crops, made similar comments.

Zimbabwe has already sold African elephants to China in recent years.

 
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  1. Tiny Duck says:

    Is there anything colonialism has not ruined?

    Also get over African population growth. We need to as many Black Men as possible to meet the cravings of white girls. Your descendants will not look like you.

    • LOL: Sam Coulton, Svevlad
    • Troll: IHTG
    • Replies: @Escher
    , @Reg Cæsar
    , @El Dato
    , @fish
  2. prosa123 says:

    The cost of a guided moose or elk hunt in the western US or Alaska has gotten so high ($5,000+ per week) that more and more hunters are traveling to southern Africa to hunt antelope or cape buffalo. Even with the airfare it can be substantially cheaper. Wild game populations in South Africa and some other countries in the area are at their highest recorded levels.

  3. Kiss the charismatic African megafauna goodbye. By 2050, you’ll only be seeing them in zoos and in a few highly protected reserves. Hyenas and jackals, on the other hand, will probably do just fine.

  4. “Zimbabwe has already sold African elephants to China in recent years. ”

    Those are La’Trojan Elephants. Once they arrive in Beijing hundreds of Africans will crawl out of each pachyderm’s rear and assume control of the city’s street corners, bus benches, front stoops, and governments jobs.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  5. Zimbabwe has already sold African elephants to China in recent years.

    The Chinese demand for boner cures is virtually insatiable. I’m telling you, the Chinese are obsessed with this subject.

    The only hope for The West is the Chinese degenerate obsession with gambling and erections.

  6. trelane says:

    First they came for the elephants, then they came for the Giraffes and then the antelopes….A billion Africans is way too many and more than we even need.

  7. Did someone say “charismatic megafauna” ?

    Global reparations have begun! Chinese diesel dyke ref is afraid to deny the boon of diversity by enforcing the rules. FIFA sweats, hopes everyone forgets.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7179001/Referee-twice-ignored-VAR-recommendations-decisions-against-Cameroon.html

    REVEALED: England v Cameroon ref TWICE overruled VAR advice on horror tackles to stop the African side from walking off… and FIFA back her decisions over fears that the game would spiral out of control!

    Sportsmail also revealed that Cameroon claimed that they were victims of racism, with players shouting ‘it’s a white World Cup’ in the tunnel after the game.

  8. Clayton says:

    If Africa’s population really does rise to 4 billion by 2100, Africans will eat every animal on the continent larger than a cat. What choice will they have? Most African countries will be too poor to import food, and global warming will reduce crop yields.

    • Agree: Daniel H
    • Replies: @Pericles
    , @RVBlake
  9. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    You almost made the Women’s World Cup interesting. Sorry, not falling for it.

    • LOL: jim jones
    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
  10. anon[375] • Disclaimer says:

    Excess landmines and excess elephants? Hmm….

    But landmines might be a more humane option then selling them to China.

    https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2015/09/150925-elephants-china-zimbabwe-cites-joyce-poole-zoos-wildlife-trade/

    But if care and upkeep of the elephants become too much of a problem the lovely and humane Chinese have a solution.

    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
    , @anon
  11. God, they’re stupid.

    Do they realize just how much money managed big game hunting could bring in?

    Letting Africans shoot those elephants is like feeding white truffles to your dog.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    , @E e
  12. Escher says:
    @Tiny Duck

    Your “descendants” will not look like you either, and we know why.

  13. t says:

    Coming to Vox next week:

    Everyone is obligated to keep their doors unlocked to insure that no one is injured trying to break in through to windows!

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/6/25/18701106/trump-immigration-migrant-photo

  14. JimB says:

    Two centuries ago they sold the people and kept the elephants.

  15. OT (But also Canadian content):

    Trudeau gives an apology to Italians for the horrific genocide that the WASP man did against them.. wait

    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-trudeau-to-apologize-to-italian-canadians-mistreated-during-second/

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  16. I thought Africans were “charismatic megafauna”.


    • Replies: @Lagertha
    , @Clyde
  17. peterike says:

    Africans vs. Elephants. I know the side I’m rooting for. But they aren’t going to win.

  18. Anon[100] • Disclaimer says:

    I read that the descendants of Pablo Escabar’s hippos are still on the lam, which is really cool, I think. Why not create a huge park in the Great Plains and reproduce Africa? A lot of their megafauna are analogs to species killed off by the Zeroeth Peoples, the native Americans who themselves were killed of by the later First Peoples. So the ecological match its probably pretty good.

    • Replies: @Abelard Lindsey
  19. Hodag says:

    This is a combo of Africa Addio and Year Zero on Cambodia, which made much of their foreign exchange selling wild animals to Maoist China.

  20. Thank the tsetse fly. Something you boneheads know nothing of.

    In fact, much of Africa’s difficulties with “nation-building” as the idiots call it, is caused, not by low IQ, you imbeciles, but by disease pathogens. In facter fact, much of the world’s history results, not from IQ as you imbeciles would have it, but from disease.

    I learned this from people with higher IQs than you.

  21. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    An argument against S I Hayakawa’s stance against internment reparations was that, as a Canadian, he wasn’t interned.

    Italians were interned and Japanese weren’t?

  22. @Diversity Heretic

    It leads to a terrible internal conflict & emotional turmoil in most modern Lefties to point out that the 3rd World is not interested in environmentalism, conservation or even food security. These countries simply do not act with any foresight. It is just barely restrained chaos.
    I suspect some Western Nations will have to evacuate the last few remaining lions, zebras hippos, & elephants from Africa before they are killed for food or for use in Chinese medicine.
    Most of organized US Environmentalism has devoted an insane amount of time since 1990 twisting itself in pretzels to conceal anything that would reveal the truth of race realism or that much of what ails the planet stems from 3rd World governments, the insane population growth in those countries & the pollution associated with their growth.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  23. Tim says:

    “President Mokgweetsi Masisi of Botswana”????

    Come on, Steve, you’re just making this stuff up now.

    Rusty in Vacation: “That sounds fake, Dad. That sounds totally fake.”

  24. KunioKun says:

    Any leftist who complains about Chinese domination of Africa is obviously a racist who hates Chinese people. Deplatform them!

  25. Tim says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    “In this country in 15 or 20 years’ time the black man will have the whip hand over the white man.”

    Enoch Powell

    • Replies: @Malla
  26. @Reg Cæsar

    They were. The Japanese Canadians got their apology letter – and Reparations! – in 1988, under a Conservative government. Not sure how that particular wily Oriental escaped the net…if he did

    • Replies: @Ray Huffman
  27. J.Ross says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    This joke could be from the Chinese internet.
    The first thing I thought of upon reading Zimbabwe selling one of its glories was the guy in Cannibal the Musical: “You don’t want the horse any more?”

  28. Anonymous[350] • Disclaimer says:

    The Zhukovskyy family is originally from Ukraine and has lived in the United States for about 13 years.

  29. @Clifford Brown

    The Chinese demand for boner cures is virtually insatiable. I’m telling you, the Chinese are obsessed with this subject.

    Perfectly understandable though. With only 1.5 billion of them they desperately need to make more. Also, with their legendary tiny endowments they need all the help they can get, right?

    Africa is toast? Asia is toast? America is toast?

    Whole lotta toast goin’ round. The planet is toast.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  30. @Clifford Brown

    White Girl Whine a Lot, amirite?

  31. @t

    This is the photo that encapsulates the cruelty of the Trump era

    So true! No one ever died before Trump was elected.

  32. @Reg Cæsar

    Weren’t Japanese interned in Canada, Brazil, and New Caledonia?

  33. Lot says:

    Trump: to the left of John Kerry-voting Democrat Mickey Kaus on the invasion of asylum-frauding central americans and africans.

  34. @t

    Does anyone else think that photo looks posed? Shades of the drowned Syrian child who caused Angela Merkel to open floodgates back in 2015.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Mr McKenna
  35. Now is the time for guys like Robert Redford, Ted Turner, James Cameron, and others to put their money where their mouths are and to buy up some land in Angola in order to create a big reserve for these elephants. It is time for these guys to step up to the plate.

  36. Anon7 says:

    Make Room! Make Room! Send them to Thailand. The Thai are eating all of their elephants, they’re running out. Though Africans have long eaten elephant as well.

    In Detroit, though, persons of African descent want cash money, thank you very much, according to their representative Rashida Tlaib, who now demands “reparations for descendants of slaves in the form of “direct payment.””

  37. Andy says:

    In time, it will be seen the worst thing Europe ever did to itself was to bring modern medicine to Africa

    • Replies: @Olorin
  38. njguy73 says:

    Selling elephants to someone, supposedly, was once done as a way of burdening someone in a covert manner.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_elephant_(animal)#Thailand

  39. istevefan says:

    Wouldn’t it be better if a large chunk of the world lived traditionally and did not modernize which seems to have caused so many problems for them and the environment? They should have been left alone like those isolated Amazon tribes who live off the land, and in harmony with it.

    P.S. just like the Sierra Club cucked out on the environment when it comes to immigration, wildlife groups won’t touch this with the proverbial 10 foot pole.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
  40. @istevefan

    P.S. just like the Sierra Club cucked out on the environment when it comes to immigration, wildlife groups won’t touch this with the proverbial 10 foot pole.

    The Environment no longer matters to Environmentalists. Only skin color matters.

    Similarly, we can wring our hands about plastic in the world’s oceans, but we mustn’t discuss where it’s actually coming from. Because that would be racist.

  41. Obviously, the solution is to let all the Africans move to Europe and the US. Then there will be room for elephants in Africa.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    , @Lagertha
    , @Lagertha
  42. Lagertha says:

    Arghhhhhhhhhhh The last 6 years ago, when y’all hated me bc I am sooo emotional….I said that elephants would be killed off in my lifetime ( I am a year younger than Steve)..yah, whatevah. It is too late for Rhinos, Elephants, Giraffes. And, it has nothing with Western hunting. IT IS ALL ABOUT SUPPLYING WITH CHINA AND OTHER ASIAN COUNTRIES WITH BODY PARTS OF ANIMALS FROM THEIR GOD-FORSAKEN COUNTRIES…and business as usual.

  43. Lagertha says:

    It is a new, survival of the fittest. But once the camera crew is killed and electric grid is felled down, the rioting starts!. I predict this. I have had experienced this: chaos production…chaos shit.

    • Replies: @Haruto Rat
  44. Lagertha says:

    why is this even, a comment.

  45. Lagertha says:
    @Chrisnonymous

    you really are able to stay away from things get bloody and dangerous. The world we knew is over.

  46. Lagertha says:
    @Chrisnonymous

    elephants are dead in 2-3 years. Tusk ivory jockies are up 70%.

  47. Lagertha says:

    Africa sucks – this is their last World Cup entries.

  48. Wow, Rhodesia is so underpopulated that prehistoric megafauna are taking over. They need more immigrants.

    And I thought Japan was bad.

    Wild Boars Are Taking Over Japan as Population Ages, Disappears

  49. Lagertha says:

    fu, Steve, – come and take a rest at my i….september is still good…After you source all the elephants to a new, private home.

  50. Dtbb says:

    Where is the megafauna of Europe or the american bison?

  51. @Mr McKenna

    China 8.8 million plastic waste in ocean

    >carefully separate paper from plastic and put in separate recycling bins
    >trash truck takes it away
    >China buys the trash*
    >plastic and paper dumped together into cargo container and loaded onto cargo ship
    >cargo ship sails to China
    >China dumps the trash into the ocean

    [MORE]

    *

    Is This the End of Recycling?

    For decades, we were sending the bulk of our recycling to China—tons and tons of it, sent over on ships

    AN INQUIRY INTO THE NATURE AND CAUSES OF THE WEALTH OF NATIONS.By Adam Smith
    The poverty of the lower ranks of people in China far surpasses that of the most beggarly nations in Europe. … The subsistence which they find there is so scanty, that they are eager to fish up the nastiest garbage thrown overboard from any European ship

  52. MBlanc46 says:
    @Colin Wright

    For some time I’ve thought that “Game Park Africa” was the only economic hope for the continent. But to do that, they’d have to get population growth under control. Apparently, that’s beyond them. They’re doomed, and so are we.

  53. MBlanc46 says:
    @obwandiyag

    At least there’s a little humor in Tiny Duck.

    • Agree: Mr McKenna
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  54. @Tiny Duck

    Is there anything colonialism has not ruined?

    It has certainly ruined London.

    And Paris.

    And Brussels.

    And Lisbon.

    • LOL: reactionry
    • Replies: @Malla
    , @The Alarmist
  55. @MBlanc46

    Obw is a bit of a disease pathogen himself.

  56. Olorin says:
    @Andy

    Oh, I suspect that Big Pharma would take exception to that perspective.

  57. @Fabian Forge

    TBF, there were actually many internees who were alive then.

  58. Anonymous[249] • Disclaimer says:
    @Diversity Heretic

    Shades of the drowned Syrian child who caused Angela Merkel to open floodgates back in 2015.

    What caused Angela Merkel to open the floodgates to millions of Third World invaders in 2015 was a set of instructions given to her about 2013 by her handlers in the U.S..

    The refugee picture (like many other psyops) were only released many months after the launch of the “sudden” world-wide immivation operation.

  59. Malla says:
    @Tim

    The black man will have the whip because the White man gave him the whip. The White man wants to self flagellate so he uses the black man to do the job. There is no way a primitive low IQ jungle people would hold the whip over a more evolved civilization building high IQ race.
    Already 13000 years ago Caucasians were defeating Negroids in war with ease.

    Pre Egyptian Race War 10,000BC Archery VS. Stick

    Here we see an ancient burial ground showing the remains of possibly the 1st Racial conflict ever found, between the Caucasian Egyptians ( or what would become the Badarian & Nakada people) and a proto Negroid people, that would become the Nubians we know today, tho only a proto Negroid from at this late stage of history, and the similar site in Kenya seems to show primitives, yet this site shows a more civilized people, and it seems the Caucasians might have hurried these dead…

  60. @Diversity Heretic

    NYT subheadline (I refuse to click on their stories):

    The image represents a poignant distillation of the perilous journey migrants face on their passage north to the United States.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  61. Malla says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    There are many African students coming to India now. But inter racial relations have been far from good. Is the Indian race subconsciously protecting itself?


    Racial Attack: African Girl Attacked In Greater Noida


    African students protest over mob attack on Tanzanian student in India


    Unidentified Men Attacks African National In Delhi


    Mob assaults two Nigerian nationals over rash driving


    African national attack traffic cop in Delhi, beaten up by locals


    Racist Indian Mob Attack African Students At Delhi Metro

    • Agree: jim jones
    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  62. @Clifford Brown

    The Chinese demand for boner cures is virtually insatiable. I’m telling you, the Chinese are obsessed with this subject.

    We’re waiting for Goatweed to add his two fēn () on this important topic.

  63. Elephants in Southern Africa are like wild horses in the American West. People can’t grasp there are too many of them for the environment, so the environment gets destroyed in the name of the environment.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  64. Is AOC ever OT?

    She thinks American furniture workers are overpaid, so is pushing a boycott. The future of upholstery depends on the children in “cages”:

  65. @anon

    THESE are the guys who are killing it at Stuyvesant High?

  66. Certainly the Chinese will eat the elephants.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    , @Achmed E. Newman
  67. Pericles says:
    @Clayton

    If Africa’s population really does rise to 4 billion by 2100, Africans will eat every animal on the continent larger than a cat. What choice will they have?

    Gosh, what could they do? Where could they go?

  68. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    More POC Soccer Follies…

    From Orwell’s “Shooting An Elephant” –

    “In Moulmein, in lower Burma, I was hated by large numbers of people – the only time in my life that I have been important enough for this to happen to me. I was sub-divisional police officer of the town, and in an aimless, petty kind of way anti-European feeling was very bitter. No one had the guts to raise a riot, but if a European woman went through the bazaars alone somebody would probably spit betel juice over her dress. As a police officer I was an obvious target and was baited whenever it seemed safe to do so. When a nimble Burman tripped me up on the football field and the referee (another Burman) looked the other way, the crowd yelled with hideous laughter. This happened more than once. In the end the sneering yellow faces of young men that met me everywhere, the insults hooted after me when I was at a safe distance, got badly on my nerves. The young Buddhist priests were the worst of all. There were several thousands of them in the town and none of them seemed to have anything to do except stand on street corners and jeer at Europeans.”

    Also See: Monk: “What is the sound of one hand clapping?” Madame Nhu: “I would clap hands at seeing another monk barbecue…”
    See Also: Trump Magafauna Barbecue

  69. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    I was taught there were only two real perversions – lawn hockey and ballet on ice; the growing popularity of women’s soccer has made me doubt it.

  70. @reactionry

    “Bungle In The Jungle”

    That essay by Orwell is a musth read.

    Also see: George, George Orwell of the jungle…watch out for that tree!”

  71. anon[195] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    They should feed the tigers McDonalds instead. Much more humane.

  72. Old Prude says:
    @Diversity Heretic

    Once one becomes familiar with the term “bush meat” and are familiar with the World’s Most Important Graph, quickly follows the realization that African wildlife is doomed. That really really makes me sad.

  73. For F***’s sake, first the new racists of Rhodesia can’t get along with their white farmers, and now they go elephantist on top of it.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  74. @Reg Cæsar

    So, you’re saying colonialism enriched the homelands of the former colonial masters?

  75. @Redneck farmer

    Not to mention hungry, hungry hippos.

    Seriously, elephants eat a lot. If you were a farmer in Elephant Country, you’d think seriously about investing in an AK-47 for Crop Protection.

  76. Ed says:

    In addition to selling Elephants, the idiots in Zimbabwe are bringing back their dollar without having any hard currency to back it up. They won’t change their spending either. Inflation already approaching 3 digits will likely go even higher.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  77. Clyde says:
    @t

    Some (undoubtedly) millennial hoser named Zack Beauchamp wrote this. You take Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, you know how many live there. These prime invader nations, spitting out families of fake asylum seeking invaders…Total population is 32 million and many millions of them want to head north to the US.

    Anyway zero f’s given. No one has a right to just come and plop themselves down here. With those three nations no one is starving, many are quite fat and well fed. I see the photos of the current invader crop. 20-25 percent of these nations already live here. The Conquistadors really f’ed up with their Indian populations. How are we responsible?

    I am praying that Trump getting Mexico in line via tariffs works out. I like these people. Just don’t invade America.

  78. Clyde says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    In Kenya and nations nearby the men love to eat grilled goat and other grilled red meats. They eat it so much that there is a gout epidemic in the male population.
    This is called Nyama choma and you can find many you tube videos on it.

    Best Nyama choma video >>>

    • Replies: @El Dato
  79. Clyde says:
    @miss marple

    Certainly the Chinese will eat the elephants.

    But they really want the tusks for their dick pills.

    Chinese cage bears and extract their bile three times daily to use as a health tonic. btw there are more horrible you tube videos on this.
    GRAPHIC Chinese Bear Bile Farming Video >>>>

  80. @Lagertha

    But once the camera crew is killed and electric grid is felled down, the rioting starts!

    It was close to happening last year already:

    Mistaken for vampires and accused of witchcraft, BBC crew ‘nearly stoned to death’ in Malawi
    A BBC film crew investigating a string of child killings in the southern African state of Malawi narrowly escaped death, after an undercover meeting with a witch-doctor was interrupted by a mob accusing them of being “vampires”.
    https://www.rt.com/news/435905-malawi-bbc-child-killings/

    • Replies: @Lagertha
  81. RVBlake says:
    @Clayton

    Perhaps a return to cannibalism will solve both nutritional and population crises.

  82. E e says:
    @Colin Wright

    I think the problem is that so many westerners have been beaten over the head with the idea that the animals are on the verge of extinction that even people who might be interested are probably at least a little bit worried about backlash if some photos of their adventure get on social media…

    And, of course, the notion that managing wildlife for Western big game hunters could actually be the best possible solution does not compute.

  83. Svevlad says:

    People are too spooked of actual solutions

    Some time ago, evolutionary pressure for intelligence wasn’t very strong in Africa. Now, tho… We shown them things they do indeed very much like, and know very well they’re not able to keep it up…

    Quarantine the place for 50 years? Population is reduced, but of exponentially higher quality. They might be pissed, but hey it’s good for them in the long run

  84. @Steve Sailer

    Deer are bad enough. I can only imagine.

  85. El Dato says:
    @Tiny Duck

    From the newsprint available on the Chinese Jupiter Mission today:

    “Electricty Generation to be assured by elephant-powered threadmills all over Merica”

    “NYT to finally close offices in the Manhattan shantytown because ‘mission accomplished: equality achieved’, editor Ari Goldwald explains ‘I can go back to the Middle East and buy a little house in Mesopotamia; it has been a tiring 20 years’”

  86. There’s an old myth – it IS a myth, isn’t it? – that the only thing a grown elephant fears is a MOUSE. I would submit, however, that the real threat is not an actual rodent, but a low-IQ primate that BREEDS LIKE RATS!

  87. El Dato says:
    @Clyde

    Don’t they put pygmies and other bushmeat on the grill?

    Also, goats are an environmental catastrophe and should be nuked from drones.

    • Replies: @GermanReader2
  88. @Anon

    I visited one of those big cat rescue parks once. They told me that the big cats (tigers, lions) actually do quite well in cool weather. Maybe we can recreate the American lion.

  89. @obwandiyag

    This is true.

    There is a book about Africa recommended by non other than our host here that talked about disease pathogens being an inhibitor of human development in Africa. It also talked about megafauna as well. Mostly elephant and lions. A single bull elephant can lay waste to a farmer’s field in less than an hour.

  90. @Hippopotamusdrome

    Fortunately for us all, and giving the lie to decades of Green schoolroom propaganda, plastic is readily biodegradable and breaks down quickly in the oceans. The combination of wave action, UV light, and marine bacteria makes short work of the carbon polymers we were told would last “for 50,000 years.”

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
  91. peterike says:
    @obwandiyag

    In fact, much of Africa’s difficulties with “nation-building” as the idiots call it, is caused, not by low IQ, you imbeciles, but by disease pathogens.

    Which is why when Africans go to white nations they are such stellar achievers.

  92. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    Is the Indian race subconsciously protecting itself?

    Africans are into self-protection too:

    Idi Amin Dada throws Indians out!

    Amin was a visionary and a hero.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
  93. @reactionry

    Nothing screams intellectual mediocrity like a George Orwell citation.

    George Orwell was a nobody. He was a disgusting socialist, an atheist, and an overrated scribbler of garbage. He is the lees at the bottom of the septic tank of modernity. As such, it is quite fitting that he is the go-to source for quotations and quips whenever some libertarian idiot wants to add the weight of an illustrious name to whatever moronic point he is trying to make, but to see this charlatan constantly referred to by men ostensibly on the right as one of their own, is an enduring mystery.

    The day when the boot of obscurity finally stamps out the work of George Orwell—forever—will be a great day for thought. So much fresher and clearer air will then be breathed after the departure of this man, who has polluted an entire century with his miasmic nonsense.

    • Disagree: BenKenobi
    • Replies: @dearieme
    , @El Dato
    , @J.Ross
  94. @CrunchybutRealistCon

    I suspect some Western Nations will have to evacuate the last few remaining lions, …

    Now, I’ve got this moving picture in my head of a scene somewhat like 1975 Saigon, with lions and monkeys trying to jump onto the skids of the last Hueys leaving off the roof of the big 2-story hotel, you know, that tallest building on the continent. Keep those Hueys flying!

  95. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Regarding the 2nd picture: The barring of the teeth like that means anger. I know this from what Jane Goodall told me back when I used to watch TV.

  96. @Mr McKenna

    Haha, I knew this thread would be a hoot.

    With the Glow-ball Climate Disruption(TM) and overpopulation resulting in lack of grain for making white bread, along with electric power rationing, toast is toast.

  97. @miss marple

    Yeah, but they stir fry, which is heart healthy …. so there’s that …

  98. dearieme says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    His essays are beautifully written and packed with insight. Now go to sleep until your Massa reprograms you.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  99. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Of course he was, my good man. So are all those Indians who attacked blacks in India. They are visionaries and heroes too like your Idi Amin Dada. Maybe you should make this point clear to all the African ambassadors in India who are screaming and screeching at the Indian Government for these incidents (which they are duty bound to do honestly). Maybe send them a whasapp message and explain how heroic these Indians are.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
    , @Okechukwu
  100. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    As a Nigerian I was wondering, are these black South Africans heroes too?

    Nigerian Real Estate Agents Attacked In South Africa by black South Africans.

    Xenophobic Attacks on Nigerians in South Africa

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  101. @obwandiyag

    Are you and Tiny taking turns at the keyboard?

  102. @Hippopotamusdrome

    >carefully separate paper from plastic and put in separate recycling bins
    >trash truck takes it away
    >China buys the trash*
    >plastic and paper dumped together into cargo container and loaded onto cargo ship
    >cargo ship sails to China
    >China dumps the trash into the ocean
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Profit!

    FIFY

  103. @Steve Sailer

    It’d be more fun with a .50 semi-auto. Just sayin’ … The AK-47 is for protection against other … species.

  104. @Ed

    … the idiots in Zimbabwe are bringing back their dollar without having any hard currency to back it up.

    Hey, it worked for America. What could go wrong there either?

  105. @Hippopotamusdrome

    >China buys the trash
    >China dumps the trash into the ocean
    China 8.8 million plastic waste in ocean.
    That’s why China will never be a Super Power. They waste so many resources because of their supposedly high IQ. They should of spent that money on buying elephants instead.

  106. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    This is what happens when you get rid of exploitative Indians:

    Uganda top in advanced innovation technology

    Uganda has been ranked among the top three countries with advanced technological and innovation capabilities in Africa, according to a study conducted by Martin Prosperity Institute of the US. Uganda is second to South Africa and followed by Madagascar.

    https://www.newvision.co.ug/new_vision/news/1303465/uganda-advanced-innovation-technology

    Of course the racist Indians probably believed that Africans were incapable of using technology. Today all the tech startups in Uganda are manned by Africans. Under the old dispensation set up by British colonialists, all those roles would’ve been reserved for Indians.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Hippopotamusdrome
  107. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    Ugandans are civilized. They didn’t attack or assault Indians, they just threw the bums out. Are you suggesting that it is right and proper for Indians to attack, maim and murder Africans? Surely there are more Indians in Africa than Africans in India. Are you suggesting that an eye for an eye is reasonable? Should Africans physically assault Indians?

    • Replies: @Malla
  108. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    As a Nigerian I was wondering, are these black South Africans heroes too?

    This is a boy scout outing compared to the wars, pogroms and genocides on the Indian subcontinent.

    • Replies: @Malla
  109. Neoconned says:

    Enjoy zoos and animal sanctuaries…..soon they’ll be the only place to find such beasts given the trade in ivory, pelts, big game hunting wackos, Bush meat and of course exotic quackery “Medicine” that uses endangered animal body parts in faux medical procedures….

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  110. Anonymous[355] • Disclaimer says:
    @Diversity Heretic

    They’re not even safe in zoos. There was an incident recently where intruders broke into a French zoo, killed the rhinos and made off with their horns.

  111. El Dato says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    “George Orwell is now Trotsky.”

    So sayeth the Intelligent Being.

    When you come with a similar body of work, come back.

    Otherwise STFU.

    > libertarian idiot

    You are always using that word. I’m not sure you know what it means.

  112. Anonymous[355] • Disclaimer says:
    @reactionry

    Every really tall guy knows that feel. You don’t need to be around Burmese to experience it.

  113. @obwandiyag

    Winners don’t make excuses. You people on the other hand have an endless supply.

    Thank the tsetse fly.

  114. J.Ross says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Screencapped. And to think I was impressed when I first saw your username.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
  115. @El Dato

    The last ebola epidemic was started when someone grilled a bat.

  116. J.Ross says:
    @Mr McKenna

    The professional journalists who will not mention Rotherham or Ebba are restarting the “iconic photo of ‘refugee’ suffering,” this time with a dead father and daughter floating in the Rio Grande. They would never have died like this without the encouragement of quangos and immoral billionaires, and the specific reason they drowned there (according to BBC Radio) was learning that they could apply for asylum from the area they were trying to illegally reach. Another case where enforcing existing law would totally prevent death.

  117. @Clifford Brown

    Gambling, eh?
    Those who don’t understand Probability will perish.
    God, notoriously, does not play dice.
    And the little chaps would do better in the trouser department if they took some exercise once in a while.

  118. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Lucy Bronze is half-“Portuguese”. Whatever that means. Doesn’t look like a local, anyways.
    The wimminz team still has more white engloids in it, unlike Southgate’s mob.

  119. Africa is a sad case.

    My “if i was master of the universe” solutions would not be PC. No point mentioning them.

    Africa is a place where outside management, would improve the joint–especially, one willing to impose two-child policy. But i’m firmly in the nationalist camp. People should run there own nations.

    Opening sub-sahran Africa is–far and away–the worst thing that Europeans have ever done. A disaster for civilized people/the rest of the world. We’d be far, far better off if we’d had the foresight and cooperation to all agree to stay out. But such deep, deep foresight is darn near impossible to have.

    The obvious–and only reasonable/tractable–policy is quarantine.

    Simply don’t let the African cancer mestastasize. Get charismatic megafauna desired out for parks and zoos. (Try to establish wild populations where geographically appropriate.) Gather the genetic samples, data. But lock the people in. Under no circumstances let them ooze out and infect/destroy civilized nations

    Quarantine.

  120. @Intelligent Dasein

    plastic is readily biodegradable and breaks down quickly in the oceans

    http://www.bioplastics.guide/ref/fossil-based/non-biodegradable

    It’s always fun to see what you’ll say next.

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
  121. @J.Ross

    We really need to keep a collection. So many examples.

    Orwell was a genius of the first order, which
    helps explain why ID can’t stand him.

  122. @reactionry

    Knockout material, sir. And served up with relish & aplomb 😉

  123. @obwandiyag

    Don’t worry, some white guy will fix it for you.

  124. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Ugandans are civilized.

    LOL

    They didn’t attack or assault Indians, they just threw the bums out.

    LOL

    Are you suggesting that it is right and proper for Indians to attack, maim and murder Africans?

    No actually I do not like this. But those Indians are just reacting to typical black behaviour. If Whites would have done the same, they would have been far better off today.

    Surely there are more Indians in Africa than Africans in India. Are you suggesting that an eye for an eye is reasonable? Should Africans physically assault Indians?

    No. Indians bring prosperity to Africa. That would be stupid

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  125. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    This is a boy scout outing compared to the wars, pogroms and genocides on the Indian subcontinent.

    Yeah right. But why change the topic to the subcontinent? Are they heroes, protecting their country from Nigerians like Idi Amin did for Uganda? Seems like it.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  126. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Of course the racist Indians probably believed that Africans were incapable of using technology.

    I doubt that is true.

    Under the old dispensation set up by British colonialists, all those roles would’ve been reserved for Indians.

    No roles were reserved for Indians, that is just your dumb imagination.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  127. @Okechukwu

    Looks like Okechukwu wins this one.

    African space research: Dreaming of a manned shuttle
    Kampala, Uganda

    It would be easy to laugh at Chris Nsamba, founder of the African Space Research Programme.

    For a start, his research centre is based in his back garden where there’s not much evidence of the type of sophisticated tools and machinery I’d imagine you need for this kind of work. When I was there, most of the engineers were equipped with just sandpaper and paint brushes.

    • Replies: @Malla
  128. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    No roles were reserved for Indians, that is just your dumb imagination.

    We’ve had this discussion before. The Indians were imported specifically for those roles. The British thought that they would hang on to their colonies forever. The wanted to keep the natives untrained and dependent.

    • Replies: @Malla
  129. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    No actually I do not like this. But those Indians are just reacting to typical black behaviour.

    Any Indians that takes this attitude is playing with fire. Africans will retaliate harshly. In fact it’s already happening:

    Indians Attacked in Congolese Capital Over African Man’s Murder

    Read some of the YouTube comments from some intelligent and thoughtful Indians who, unlike you, are apologizing for their countrymen and pleading for forgiveness. You, being an idiot, think that Africans will just swallow your mindless racism and supremacism with equanimity. You think you can beat and kill Africans with impunity. You even seemed to be cheerleading violence against Africans in post #63. I know you’re not alone, there are many Indians like you and you and they will get Indians massacred in Africa. And your ragtag army isn’t going to do shit about it. You don’t know what you’re messing with.

    No. Indians bring prosperity to Africa.

    That’s like saying a cancerous tumor is good for the body. Africans are much better off without Indians. Many, if not most Indians have your attitude. It’s an attitude that doesn’t belong in Africa.

    • Replies: @Malla
  130. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    Yeah right. But why change the topic to the subcontinent? Are they heroes, protecting their country from Nigerians like Idi Amin did for Uganda? Seems like it.

    The Indian subcontinent is a hell of a lot more bloody though, isn’t it? The passions are more ripe, the hatred more searing.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_India#Dominion_of_India_(1947%E2%80%931950)

    And these are official government actions rather than the actions of a few thugs here and there. So why should I not juxtapose the death, destruction and mayhem in South Asia against the relative tranquility of Nigeria/South Africa relations?

    • Replies: @Malla
  131. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Neoconned

    Enjoy zoos and animal sanctuaries…..soon they’ll be the only place to find such beasts

    But isn’t the problem in Africa the fact that there are too many elephants, rather than too few?

  132. dfordoom says: • Website
    @dearieme

    His essays are beautifully written and packed with insight.

    I’ve been rereading Orwell’s essays recently. He really is overrated. He’s not worthless and he has his moments but he is overrated.

  133. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Read some of the YouTube comments from some intelligent and thoughtful Indians who, unlike you, are apologizing for their countrymen and pleading for forgiveness.

    We Indians are big hearted. Thank you.

    You think you can beat and kill Africans with impunity

    Not at ll, I have no such desire. Why would I want to do that?

    I know you’re not alone, there are many Indians like you

    OK, take a chill pill. I was not involved in any of those altercations and would never have behaved the way those Indians behaved. All I am pointing out is that many blacks (not all but most) by their behaviour create a back clash wherever they go. Not all blacks behave badly, act arrogant or partake in crimes. But compared to other populations they do so much more.
    The Indians did not do so out of racism or skin colour. Note that many of the attacks took place in South India where many people are black as Africans. Indians just reacted to the typical behaviour of many blacks wherever they go. India is not a country full of White guilt (Indians are not White anyways) nor does the government want race replacement like Western governments. So when the blacks started in their typical ways, Indians fought back. If Whites would have done the same years ago they would not have faced the problems they face now.
    Most Indians would not do anything to blacks, most do not have time to even bother about blacks. Most foreigners who go to India will tell you that there is very little violent crime. There may be ripping off but violent crime is less. But if those Indians acted in such a violent way, it is only because the Africans asked for it by their behaviour. Maybe they will be a bit more careful in the future. Mind it.

    That’s like saying a cancerous tumor is good for the body.

    No it is like saying essential vitamins and minerals are good for the body.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  134. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    The Indian subcontinent is a hell of a lot more bloody though

    And what does that have to do with black South Africans thrashing Nigerians? What are you, a knucklehead?

    But you have not answered my question, are those black South Africans visionaries and heroes like Dada Idi Amin? You seem to be prancing around this question.

    And forget the South Africans, lets look to North Africa, on your same continent, to Libya.

    Nigerians narrate ordeal in Libya

    Look at what the Nigerians went through in Libya under the heavy hand of the Arabs. One unfortunate man lost his eye.
    But unlike us Indians who felt sad and guilty (the Western educated Indians at least) for the actions of fellow Indians in India. Check out the response/ comment of Libyans.

    Adesuwa Chris commented
    2 months ago
    God will punish lybia…
    Idiotic people

    Toufiking B1 commented
    2 months ago
    @Adesuwa Chris their punishment was to put Nigerians in Libya

    Khldoun Libya commented
    1 month ago
    Nigerians are number one criminals

    And let us read some comments from some black Africans from Southern Africa.

    Khwezi Thembekwayo
    1 year ago
    Not all Nigerians are bad people there are some good ones but they are others who do horrendous things when they go to foreign countries… just stop the pimping of women and human trafficking and drug dealing I’m not saying they the only ones doing that but they contribute largely in that problem they must stop enslaving others as well.

    Prudance Mabokela
    5 months ago
    Very small portion of Nigerians are good people, a larger percentage of them are horrible. I really want to empathize with them but I can’t bring myself to it, not after observing how they behave in South Africa.

    Maybe you guys should solve your own problems before casting your eyes to Indian Subcontinent or the West.

  135. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    We’ve had this discussion before. The Indians were imported specifically for those roles.

    So? you proved nothing. You made some stupid claim and you stick to that claim. Indians went there to build railway lines for the Empire. They were bottom of the barrel workers from India. After their work was over they settled in East Africa and became prosperous and successful so much so that they controlled 80% of the economy. It is not the first that Indian subcontinentals have gone to Africa and taken over entire economies. Check out the Vaswanis or the Guptas. It is child’s play for us. The Ugandan blacks out of jealousy and racist hatred kicked them out. Capice.
    There is no proof whatsoever that Indians were specifically taken to East Africa by the British to keep da black man down. These dumb theories are the ramblings of lunatics.

  136. Malla says:
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    LOL. Yup he does. I give up on this.

  137. istevefan says:
    @Mr McKenna

    That’s crazy. All we hear about is stupid plastic straws needing to be banned.

  138. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    What kind of people attack an African girl simply because some African man she doesn’t even know accidentally hit an Indian with his car. This is the brutish, uncivilized behavior of Indians.

    These Indian attackers are racist bigots. That’s why they attack Africans. I think you know that. Even you aren’t dumb enough to believe otherwise.

    This brilliant African girl perfectly encapsulates what’s going on:

    African victims of racism in India share their stories

    “You come to India, and ‘Nigeria’ is like a metonymy for Africa. Africa is like one thing, and the whole thing is just reduced to blackness.” She reads the hatred she has encountered as a projection of self-loathing by a population that spends more on skin-lightening cream than Coca-Cola. “I have learned something from their ignorance,” she says. “I see myself more clearly for it.”

    https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2017/04/african-victims-racism-india-share-stories-170423093250637.html

    Indians attack Africans because they hate themselves. It’s the same reason for your own sycophantic, bootlicking shtick here. This self-loathing is deeply embedded in the Indian psyche.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
    , @Malla
  139. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Indians attack Africans because they hate themselves.

    This is the dumbest I have ever heard. Indians love themselves too much and have just voted in a Nationalist Prime Minister. Indeed Indians are too arrogant sometimes. Many Indians look down upon all non Indians including Whites, East Asians, Middle Easterners and definitely blacks as lowly mlecchas.

    he reads the hatred she has encountered as a projection of self-loathing by a population that spends more on skin-lightening cream than Coca-Cola

    There is no relationship in between skin lighting creams and attacks on Africans. This is just a leftist theory or a black theory because blacks refuse to accept that black BEHAVIOUR creates a reaction wherever they go. Hence the whole skin colour theory. How much percentage of Indians use skin lightening. Most poor Indians do not use such cosmetics (it is more of a Middle Class thing) and most of the attacks were done by poor Indians fed up with typical black behaviour. Some of the attacks took place in South India, you stupid fool. South Indians are dark and are just tired of black behaviour and fought back.
    Blacks need to understand that Indians have nothing similar to White guilt nor a government bent on race replacement like in the West. Thus blacks will not be treated with kids gloves. Bad behavour will be met with a reaction. Simple.
    Blacks are lot into skin lighting too, do they go out and attack other blacks? Do not be stupid. Skin colour has nothing to do with this.

    What kind of people attack an African girl simply because some African man she doesn’t even know accidentally hit an Indian with his car.

    This was truly wrong. The crowd was truly irrational in their behaviour. This Is agree. Indians are quite tribal sometimes.

  140. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    What kind of people attack an African girl simply because some African man she doesn’t even know accidentally hit an Indian with his car. .

    Yes that was very wrong behaviour. I hope the paople wo did this got heir punishment. Indians can be very tribal. What happened to her is very wrong.

    This is the brutish, uncivilized behavior of Indians

    LOL That is rich coming from an African.

    These Indian attackers are racist bigots. That’s why they attack Africans.

    It has everything to do with black beahviour.

    She reads the hatred she has encountered as a projection of self-loathing by a population that spends more on skin-lightening cream than Coca-Cola.

    Skin lightning products have nothing to do with attack on Africans. This is a common black blaming technique, blaming everything on skin colour and thus the refusal to address junglee and criminal black behaviour. How many Indians as a percentage use these products? If the use of these products are so widespread why are so many Indians dark skinned? Obviously these products are not working much, then we Indians are stupid to spend money on them.
    Remember, many of the attacks took place in South Indian where Indians are much darker. And most poor Indians do not use such products, these are mostly used by middle class Indians and many of the attacks (if not all) took place by poor Indians in reaction to savage and criminal black behaviour.
    Many blacks use skin lightening products too, do they go and attack other blacks?

    Skin Whitening in Jamaica

    Cake Soap, Skin Bleaching in Jamaica…Part 1…Brown and Pretty

    Do Jamaicans attack other blacks because of skin colour? Do not be stupid.

    Indians do not have time to attack others only because of skin colour. They do it because they are frustrated by black behaviour (who is not). Indians have been patient for very long of these black shenanigans but could not be patient no more. Did the black South Africans who attacked Nigerians hate themselves too?
    REMEMBER, Indians do not have something akin to White guilt nor does the Indian government want race replacement. Thus blacks are not treated with kids gloves in India as blacks are in the West. THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT.

    Indians attack Africans because they hate themselves

    The stupidity of this fool knows no bounds. Indians are in general very nationalistic and hence have voted in a nationalist leader like Narendra Modi. His opponent Rahul Gandhi of the famous Nehru-Gandhi family looks like a White guy yet Modi won the elections. No you know why your theory is so stupid. Indeed Rahul Gandhi got most of his voted from the darker skinned South Indians.
    Most Indians consider all non Indians including Whites, East Asians, Middle Easterners and definitely blacks as lowly mleccha barbarians. We love ourselves too much.

    Last I remember Jamaicans are known to be quite proud of their culture of Rasta and Reggae. Yet skin bleaching is common there among both men and women.

  141. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    What kind of people attack an African girl simply because some African man she doesn’t even know accidentally hit an Indian with his car. .

    Yes that was very wrong behaviour. I hope the paople wo did this got heir punishment. Indians can be very tribal. What happened to her is very wrong.

    This is the brutish, uncivilized behavior of Indians

    LOL That is rich coming from an African.

    These Indian attackers are racist bigots. That’s why they attack Africans.

    It has everything to do with black beahviour.

    She reads the hatred she has encountered as a projection of self-loathing by a population that spends more on skin-lightening cream than Coca-Cola.

    Skin lightning products have nothing to do with attack on Africans. This is a common black blaming technique, blaming everything on skin colour and thus the refusal to address junglee and criminal black behaviour. How many Indians as a percentage use these products? If the use of these products are so widespread why are so many Indians dark skinned? Obviously these products are not working much, then we Indians are stupid to spend money on them.
    Remember, many of the attacks took place in South Indian where Indians are much darker. And most poor Indians do not use such products, these are mostly used by middle class Indians and many of the attacks (if not all) took place by poor Indians in reaction to savage and criminal black behaviour.
    Many blacks use skin lightening products too, do they go and attack other blacks?

    Skin Whitening in Jamaica

    Cake Soap, Skin Bleaching in Jamaica…Part 1…Brown and Pretty

    Do Jamaicans attack other blacks because of skin colour? Do not be stupid.

    Indians do not have time to attack others only because of skin colour. They do it because they are frustrated by black behaviour (who is not). Indians have been patient for very long of these black shenanigans but could not be patient no more. Did the black South Africans who attacked Nigerians hate themselves too?
    REMEMBER, Indians do not have something akin to White guilt nor does the Indian government want race replacement. Thus blacks are not treated with kids gloves in India as blacks are in the West. THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT.

    Indians attack Africans because they hate themselves

    The stupidity of this fool knows no bounds. Indians are in general very nationalistic and hence have voted in a nationalist leader like Narendra Modi. His opponent Rahul Gandhi of the famous Nehru-Gandhi family looks like a White guy yet Modi won the elections. No you know why your theory is so stupid. Indeed Rahul Gandhi got most of his voted from the darker skinned South Indians.
    Most Indians consider all non Indians including Whites, East Asians, Middle Easterners and definitely blacks as lowly mleccha barbarians. We love ourselves too much.

    Last I remember Jamaicans are known to be quite proud of their culture of Rasta and Reggae. Yet skin bleaching is common there among both men and women.

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