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From the New York Times:

A Free Speech Battle at the Birthplace of a Movement at Berkeley
By THOMAS FULLER FEB. 2, 2017

BERKELEY, Calif. — Fires burned in the cradle of free speech. Furious at a lecture organized on campus, demonstrators wearing ninja-like outfits smashed windows, threw rocks at the police and stormed a building. The speech? The university called it off.

Protest has been synonymous with the University of California, Berkeley, from the earliest days of the free speech movement, when students fought to expand political expression on campus beginning in 1964. Those protests would set off student activism movements that roiled campuses across the country throughout the 1960s. Since then, countless demonstrators have flocked to Sproul Plaza each day to have their voices heard on issues from civil rights and apartheid to Israel, tuition costs and more.

But now the university is under siege for canceling a speech by the incendiary right-wing writer Milo Yiannopoulos and words like intolerance, long used by the left, are being used by critics to condemn the protests on Wednesday night that ultimately prevented Mr. Yiannopoulos from speaking.

Naweed Tahmas, a junior who is a member of the Berkeley College Republicans, the group that invited Mr. Yiannopoulos to campus, said the cancellation had made him more determined to fight for freedom of speech on campus.

“I’m tired of getting silenced, as many conservative students are,” he said. “If we support freedom of speech, we should support all speech including what they consider hate speech.”

When the event was canceled, the Republican student group reacted by writing on their Facebook page, “the Free Speech Movement is dead.”

I’d have made it a little stronger and more ironic, but the key point is that there are individuals of principle in most institutions. The trend toward pure Who? Whom? reasoning is not wholly popular. There are Americans who will publicly defend American Constitutional liberties and the rule of law.

 
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  1. ” White House nixed Holocaust statement naming Jews”

    ” The State Department wrote a message that recognized Jewish victims, but the White House used its own that didn’t.”

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/white-house-holocaust-jews-234572

    • Replies: @Thea
    Many more ethnic Russian civilians died if you count what Einsatzgruppen did. Why do the only Jews get to own the Holocaust?
  2. President Trump’s Department of Education should issue a “Dear Colleague” letter keyed to the First Amendment, informing universities that they are expected to provide an environment conducive to free speech if they wish to maintain federal funding.

    It would be very entertaining to see the reaction from those who so assiduously promoted the Obama Administration’s “Dear Colleague” letter keyed to Title IX, which resulted in universities creating kangaroo courts for the Haven Monahans of the world.

  3. Alot of klan laws on the books, so start enforcing them. Also interstate thuggery.

  4. You know what you call minorities that don’t support Free Speech?

    SHUT UP.

    Those tiny bubbles may seem like small worlds to them, but without taxpayer subsidies with federal loans and grants, they’re just empty real estate.

  5. >Naweed Tahmas,

    • Replies: @Fredrik
    You see this in Europe too. It's much easier for those non-white to speak up.
  6. City of Berkeley is being destroyed by lefties? Who cares why. As per Genl Sherman shouldn’t we be giving them rations?

    As long as they keep away from the math/physical sciences areas (there’s not Med school there) I don’t see much of a problem.

    Milo’s getting more publicity to sell his books.

    • Replies: @Langley
    The Med school is in San Francisco.

    A guy named Langley was the dean there in the 1930s.
    , @Mark F.
    I live in Berkeley and I do care that my city is being trashed by thugs.
  7. It never was a free speech movement. It was always a MY speech movement.

    From my experience there, only a tiny minority of actual students care about any of this.

    • Agree: Marcus
    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "It never was a free speech movement. It was always a MY speech movement.

    From my experience there, only a tiny minority of actual students care about any of this."

    Berkeley is where freedom of speech goes to die from Left Wing cancer.

  8. • Replies: @ogunsiron
    David Horowitz a holocaust denier ? Beyond lolwut.
    I'm guessing that she (?) says that because Horowitz called ((( kristol ))) a renegade jew a few months ago during the Trump campagign.

    I guess that "if it feels good saying it, might as well say it", for those people.
    , @Luke Lea

    Holocaust denier, David Horowitz
     
    !
  9. “I’m tired of getting silenced, as many conservative students are…”

    It’s only been fifty years now. Give it time, boy! Why don’t you jump on the team and come on in for the big win?

  10. Meanwhile, in the same NYT:

    “The Parachute Generation”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/02/magazine/the-parachute-generation.html

    Chinese students come to high school in America, where schools are hungry for foreign students “to offset budget cuts and increase cultural diversity.”

    The main student profiled really tried to fit in with the Americans at his school (“I tried so hard to make American friends”) and was finally “thrilled to be part of an American posse.” (“Cool kids never study, he was told”) but eventually he had to draw the line:

    He wanted nothing to do with shouting racial epithets at the school’s few African-American students or taunting other Chinese kids with curse words in Mandarin.

    The neat thing about propagandizing in MSM outlets like the NYT is that your audience is already primed. They’ll believe anything you say. Notice that technically speaking, none of it is actually sourced. It never is.

    • Replies: @Anon7
    I had to laugh at the Chinese elite paying to send their kids to public school in the US. They missed it by about 40 years. US public schools suffer under the burden of teacher unions that protect the worst teachers you could possibly imagine (ask any parent with kids in the public schools). I suppose they're still better than the high schools in China.

    Also, this article doesnt mention California, where Chinese kids are sent to go to public school at taxpayer expense. All they need to do is get into the country, and stay with a "relative" in a good school district. Guess if their undocumented status is an issue. Then if they are good enough, they are guaranteed spots in California's fine university system.

    We've been played for fools for the last half-century.

  11. Law professor Nadine Strossen, former president of the ACLU, admirer of Obama and a supporter of pornography (so she’s definitely no conservative) says there is an undeniable push from the left to shut down free speech, especially on campuses. I think we’re on the cusp of more and more legal academics acknowledging this fact, despite the risks to their positions and careers. Anti-first amendment campus militancy is very possibly what will break the back of the left.

    • Replies: @Eagle Eye
    The Nadine Strossens of this world NEVER speak up or do anything else "despite the risks to their positions and careers."

    They are sensing a change in the way the wind is blowing, and smoothly adapting to the new regime.
  12. Filmmaker Lexi Alexander says hate speech is not free speech it’s a crime, but than she advocates violence against those she politically disagrees with. So pro-violence speech is not hate speech and not a crime?
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2017/02/01/judd-apatow-supports-far-left-berkeley-riot-warns-just-beginning/

    And if hate speech is a crime than Lexi Alexander should be in prison right now for enciting hate, because enciting violence is a form of hate speech, it’s no different than yelling fire in a crowded theater, it’s no different than death threats.

    • Replies: @Amasius
    The lunatic left has it all figured out:

    "You can have freedom of speech, yes, of course, but not if it's 'hate speech.' If we arbitrarily determine that what you say constitutes 'hate speech' then you have no right and we will violently shut you down. Do you have the right to express political views without being physically attacked? Yes, of course... unless you're a 'Nazi.' If we arbitrarily determine that you are a 'Nazi' then we reserve the right to punch you in your 'Nazi' face and troll you and laugh about it like little goblins for all eternity."

    Genius!

  13. @Anonymous
    " White House nixed Holocaust statement naming Jews"

    " The State Department wrote a message that recognized Jewish victims, but the White House used its own that didn’t."

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/white-house-holocaust-jews-234572

    Many more ethnic Russian civilians died if you count what Einsatzgruppen did. Why do the only Jews get to own the Holocaust?

    • Replies: @biz
    The distinction is that there was an organized attempt to kill every single Jewish person. The goal was to remove Jews as a people from the face of the Earth. The intent is what defines the Holocaust, and other genocides, rather than the raw body count.
    , @Dissident
    I, as a Jew, object to the co-opting of a generic, universal word such as holocaust for the specific Nazi genocide of Jews during WWII. Before elaborating any further, let me first point-out that those Jews who were behind this coinage of The Holocaust were not loyal and devout to Judaism, i.e., the Judaic religion, and certainly not representative of it.

    Yes, the Nazis did perpetrate heinous atrocities against the Jews during WWII, culminating in all-out genocide. There is no question of that much. But, while we, as Jews, may understandably find the experience to have been unique for us, the tragic reality is that plenty of other peoples have suffered their own genocides and other heinous atrocities. For Jews (and I reiterate that I am one myself) to coin a term such as The Holocaust to refer specifically and exclusively to our experience at the hand of the Nazis effectively belittles the many holocausts that other peoples have suffered. I find this arrogant, insensitive and, in light of the resentment and hostility that such chutzpah could only have been expected to bring to us, short-sighted and self-defeating.

    , @Connecticut Famer
    You're probably right, but in answer to your question: because with the Jews it's a numbers game. Yes, they were Hitler's primary target for extermination but it should be pointed out that the group who suffered the most for their beliefs were, believe it or not, Jehovah Witnesses. According to British historian Richard Evans, in terms of percentage of the population more Jehovah Witnesses were gassed than Jews. For the Jews, however, as far as they are concerned THEY are "Six Million", so there's no further debate.
  14. @anony-mouse
    City of Berkeley is being destroyed by lefties? Who cares why. As per Genl Sherman shouldn't we be giving them rations?

    As long as they keep away from the math/physical sciences areas (there's not Med school there) I don't see much of a problem.

    Milo's getting more publicity to sell his books.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_sY2rjxq6M

    The Med school is in San Francisco.

    A guy named Langley was the dean there in the 1930s.

  15. The far Left should be given as much wiggle room as possible in the next few months (short of allowing anarchy) to show their true colors. America needs to see what this 20% gang of AnComs & cultMarx has in store for the majority. If Trump over reacts or reacts too soon, he will lose the high ground.

    Let the far Left go further to fouling its own nests, but get ready for a coming day of reckoning. The big battle looming is when they’ll try to prevent construction of the wall & stage attacks on DHS agents who trying to carry out deportations.

    • Replies: @Thomas
    That "no borders, no nation, f*** deportation!" chant from over the weekend got another spin at Berkeley last night. https://twitter.com/carlodavid1115/status/826972748240916481

    That one stands out quite a bit: "no borders, no nation..." So they're basically for destroying America, admittedly.
    , @Frau Katze
    That's a good point.

    I was thinking that campus security should come down hard on the violent protesters, but maybe that would then let them seize the high ground.

    But allowing too much violence could be counter-productive.

    I maintain that the willingness of Muslims to become (lethally) violent at the slightest thing (any "dishonour" to Islam) has worked very well for them.

    The media now are now terrified of them.
    , @Dissident

    America needs to see what this 20% gang of AnComs & cultMarx has in store for the majority.
     
    But (thanks to the media and other establishment fifth columns) how many normies and respectables will see it?

    Yes, the Internet breaks that barrier but one has to go to the right sites. And merely doing that, in these times of reverse McCarthyism, is enough to get one fired and ostracized.

    In this vein, I suppose I might as well as mention Tor, a tool that can be useful in certain cases for circumventing censorship and tracking.

    I will also mention that I find it odd that unz.com does not employ HTTPS SSL/TLS encryption and authentication. When used over a direct, non-proxied connection, a properly configured HTTPS site offers the privacy advantage that one's ISP, network admin or an eavesdropper can only see that one visited said site, not any of one's specific activity on it. HTTPS offers the security advantage of protecting against man-in-the-middle (MITM) attacks. When using Tor, use of HTTPS can be critical in protecting against manipulation (via packet injection) by malicious exit nodes.
  16. @Formerly CARealist
    It never was a free speech movement. It was always a MY speech movement.

    From my experience there, only a tiny minority of actual students care about any of this.

    “It never was a free speech movement. It was always a MY speech movement.

    From my experience there, only a tiny minority of actual students care about any of this.”

    Berkeley is where freedom of speech goes to die from Left Wing cancer.

    • Replies: @Mark F.
    I live in Berkeley and there are lots of students in my apartment building. Most are Asians and don't give a rat's ass about politics. They are here to study.
  17. @Anon
    Looks like a Red Tard.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=52&v=mNGtI3Ezdvo

    David Horowitz a holocaust denier ? Beyond lolwut.
    I’m guessing that she (?) says that because Horowitz called ((( kristol ))) a renegade jew a few months ago during the Trump campagign.

    I guess that “if it feels good saying it, might as well say it”, for those people.

    • Replies: @Anon
    Either the moroness got David Horowitz confused with David Irving, or maybe she means Zionism is Holocaust.

    A dog she is.

  18. @Kyle McKenna
    Meanwhile, in the same NYT:

    "The Parachute Generation"

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/02/magazine/the-parachute-generation.html

    Chinese students come to high school in America, where schools are hungry for foreign students "to offset budget cuts and increase cultural diversity."

    The main student profiled really tried to fit in with the Americans at his school (“I tried so hard to make American friends") and was finally "thrilled to be part of an American posse." ("Cool kids never study, he was told") but eventually he had to draw the line:


    He wanted nothing to do with shouting racial epithets at the school’s few African-American students or taunting other Chinese kids with curse words in Mandarin.
     
    The neat thing about propagandizing in MSM outlets like the NYT is that your audience is already primed. They'll believe anything you say. Notice that technically speaking, none of it is actually sourced. It never is.

    I had to laugh at the Chinese elite paying to send their kids to public school in the US. They missed it by about 40 years. US public schools suffer under the burden of teacher unions that protect the worst teachers you could possibly imagine (ask any parent with kids in the public schools). I suppose they’re still better than the high schools in China.

    Also, this article doesnt mention California, where Chinese kids are sent to go to public school at taxpayer expense. All they need to do is get into the country, and stay with a “relative” in a good school district. Guess if their undocumented status is an issue. Then if they are good enough, they are guaranteed spots in California’s fine university system.

    We’ve been played for fools for the last half-century.

    • Replies: @ganderson
    Prep schools actively recruit Chinese kids- full pays! They generally do not mix with the rest of the student body.

    I call BS on the Times story about Chinese students.

    Slightly OT- Beloit college has been roiled by hate crimes this week- 2 of the three reported have been shown to be hoaxes, I assume # 3 will be soon.
  19. @27 year old
    >Naweed Tahmas,

    ...

    You see this in Europe too. It’s much easier for those non-white to speak up.

  20. @ogunsiron
    David Horowitz a holocaust denier ? Beyond lolwut.
    I'm guessing that she (?) says that because Horowitz called ((( kristol ))) a renegade jew a few months ago during the Trump campagign.

    I guess that "if it feels good saying it, might as well say it", for those people.

    Either the moroness got David Horowitz confused with David Irving, or maybe she means Zionism is Holocaust.

    A dog she is.

  21. America needs some Korean teachers:

  22. @CrunchybutRealistCon
    The far Left should be given as much wiggle room as possible in the next few months (short of allowing anarchy) to show their true colors. America needs to see what this 20% gang of AnComs & cultMarx has in store for the majority. If Trump over reacts or reacts too soon, he will lose the high ground.

    Let the far Left go further to fouling its own nests, but get ready for a coming day of reckoning. The big battle looming is when they'll try to prevent construction of the wall & stage attacks on DHS agents who trying to carry out deportations.

    That “no borders, no nation, f*** deportation!” chant from over the weekend got another spin at Berkeley last night. https://twitter.com/carlodavid1115/status/826972748240916481

    That one stands out quite a bit: “no borders, no nation…” So they’re basically for destroying America, admittedly.

  23. Would be interested in on-the-scene accounts of police witnessing assaults and doing nothing — I’ve heard some of the violence against people was very serious and therefore could be charged as attempted murder.

    https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/827249600247377920

    • Replies: @eah
    https://twitter.com/kiarafrobles/status/827382131693285377
  24. @CrunchybutRealistCon
    The far Left should be given as much wiggle room as possible in the next few months (short of allowing anarchy) to show their true colors. America needs to see what this 20% gang of AnComs & cultMarx has in store for the majority. If Trump over reacts or reacts too soon, he will lose the high ground.

    Let the far Left go further to fouling its own nests, but get ready for a coming day of reckoning. The big battle looming is when they'll try to prevent construction of the wall & stage attacks on DHS agents who trying to carry out deportations.

    That’s a good point.

    I was thinking that campus security should come down hard on the violent protesters, but maybe that would then let them seize the high ground.

    But allowing too much violence could be counter-productive.

    I maintain that the willingness of Muslims to become (lethally) violent at the slightest thing (any “dishonour” to Islam) has worked very well for them.

    The media now are now terrified of them.

  25. As I have grown older I have come to appreciate the stance of Clark Kerr, against whom the Free Speech Movement was arrayed. He believed that the University deserved to be a sphere apart from political concerns and political agitation. Partisan concerns (even concerns like Civil Rights) needed to be kept off campus, rather than brought in, since they would destroy the comity of the campus community and embroil the University in politics at every level.

    Righteous students, of course, felt that this was impossible. They claimed that they were being made the product of some industrial educational machinery and they needed to stop that process to get to the very important task of changing the world. Most people have absorbed this cant and learned to regurgitate it whenever the need is felt for high-minded self-congratulation is needed. The FSM was not about free speech. It was about invasive speech and the destruction of the idea of life outside politics.

    What really ruined Berkeley, however, was allowing 18-year olds the vote. That put the far-leftists into the city government and took the police out of the hands of anyone with any sense.

    • Agree: Dissident
  26. Tweakingly disturbing and rather weak performance of this Hoaxican of Philippine heritage is just another micro-proof of Trump’s Winning streak.

    Pinoychio knows that General Kelly could make his current visit to Manila into a permanent vacanciones thrilla :

    This was the same affirmative action Pulitzer recipient and self-proclaimed undocumented entrepreneur, just ten months ago when the Free World was his lumpia :

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "Tweakingly disturbing and rather weak performance of this Hoaxican of Philippine heritage is just another micro-proof of Trump’s Winning streak."

    Central Americans and Mexicans are so incompetent that they have to have a Filipino as the Jesse Jackson like spokesperson for Illegal Immigrants who cross the southern border into The U.S.

    "This was the same affirmative action Pulitzer recipient and self-proclaimed undocumented entrepreneur, just ten months ago when the Free World was his lumpia :"

    He is always bashing White people yet he mentioned that his boyfriend is White. He should stick to his own kind and get himself a Filipino boyfriend if White people are so bad.

    , @Jim Don Bob
    How about President Trump (I will never tire of hearing that phrase) orders this a**w**e deported tomorrow.

    Go to his house with the State Department Swat Team and do an Elio Gonzales, ripping him from his boyfriend's arms! Put the video on YouTube captioned, "Next?"

    Nothing like a a high profile example. Plus he's a member of the media. Plus he's gay. It's a two-fer!
  27. @bored identity
    Tweakingly disturbing and rather weak performance of this Hoaxican of Philippine heritage is just another micro-proof of Trump's Winning streak.

    Pinoychio knows that General Kelly could make his current visit to Manila into a permanent vacanciones thrilla :




    https://youtu.be/sLrUfJEJFpQ

    This was the same affirmative action Pulitzer recipient and self-proclaimed undocumented entrepreneur, just ten months ago when the Free World was his lumpia :



    https://youtu.be/HwbuJoGbiKs

    “Tweakingly disturbing and rather weak performance of this Hoaxican of Philippine heritage is just another micro-proof of Trump’s Winning streak.”

    Central Americans and Mexicans are so incompetent that they have to have a Filipino as the Jesse Jackson like spokesperson for Illegal Immigrants who cross the southern border into The U.S.

    “This was the same affirmative action Pulitzer recipient and self-proclaimed undocumented entrepreneur, just ten months ago when the Free World was his lumpia :”

    He is always bashing White people yet he mentioned that his boyfriend is White. He should stick to his own kind and get himself a Filipino boyfriend if White people are so bad.

    • Replies: @Dissident

    He should stick to his own kind and get himself a Filipino boyfriend if White people are so bad.
     
    Actually, considering the sado-masochositic dynamic that, arguably, at least, is inherent to buggery, it could very well make a lot of sense for one of the partners in a buggerous union to be "of the enemy", no? Of course, it all depends on which one...Being able to see the partner-in-question here might, perhaps, give us a better idea of who's who in this relationship.
  28. Fires burned in the cradle of free speech.

    I get the reference to the FAM, but this is aggressive, weaponized idiocy. Move over, Monticello, the real story of free expression in this country started when some west- coast Jewish kids got snippy with their Dean.

    • Replies: @Olorin
    Precisely. Same at Columbia and Madison, btw.

    Or so I was told by both goys and Jews who attended those campuses at that time and were considerably more serious about their educations than the Situationist Snowflakes were.

  29. @Jefferson
    Filmmaker Lexi Alexander says hate speech is not free speech it's a crime, but than she advocates violence against those she politically disagrees with. So pro-violence speech is not hate speech and not a crime?
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2017/02/01/judd-apatow-supports-far-left-berkeley-riot-warns-just-beginning/

    And if hate speech is a crime than Lexi Alexander should be in prison right now for enciting hate, because enciting violence is a form of hate speech, it's no different than yelling fire in a crowded theater, it's no different than death threats.

    The lunatic left has it all figured out:

    “You can have freedom of speech, yes, of course, but not if it’s ‘hate speech.’ If we arbitrarily determine that what you say constitutes ‘hate speech’ then you have no right and we will violently shut you down. Do you have the right to express political views without being physically attacked? Yes, of course… unless you’re a ‘Nazi.’ If we arbitrarily determine that you are a ‘Nazi’ then we reserve the right to punch you in your ‘Nazi’ face and troll you and laugh about it like little goblins for all eternity.”

    Genius!

  30. @eah
    Would be interested in on-the-scene accounts of police witnessing assaults and doing nothing -- I've heard some of the violence against people was very serious and therefore could be charged as attempted murder.

    https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/827249600247377920

    • Replies: @Connecticut Famer
    An innocent bystander I assume.

    Outrageous!!!!!!
  31. @J1234
    Law professor Nadine Strossen, former president of the ACLU, admirer of Obama and a supporter of pornography (so she's definitely no conservative) says there is an undeniable push from the left to shut down free speech, especially on campuses. I think we're on the cusp of more and more legal academics acknowledging this fact, despite the risks to their positions and careers. Anti-first amendment campus militancy is very possibly what will break the back of the left.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLHafF1KLFI

    The Nadine Strossens of this world NEVER speak up or do anything else “despite the risks to their positions and careers.”

    They are sensing a change in the way the wind is blowing, and smoothly adapting to the new regime.

  32. If they had just let him speak and did not throw a riot, who would have heard his message? There may have been a little write up here at the Unz Review, but the news media would not have covered it, that’s for sure. It is not like the student body at Berkeley would suddenly have become a buch of Pat Buchanans.

  33. @Thea
    Many more ethnic Russian civilians died if you count what Einsatzgruppen did. Why do the only Jews get to own the Holocaust?

    The distinction is that there was an organized attempt to kill every single Jewish person. The goal was to remove Jews as a people from the face of the Earth. The intent is what defines the Holocaust, and other genocides, rather than the raw body count.

    • Replies: @guest
    Yes, but unfortunately if that's the case then the holocaust either didn't exist or is a very tendentious conspiracy theory. Not to knock conspiracy theories, many of which I believe.
  34. Why do so many persist in referring to UC Berkeley as the “cradle (or birthplace) of free speech”? The birthplace of protest maybe, but I’m pretty sure the concept of free speech was around before 1960, wasn’t it?

    • Replies: @guest
    To be fair, they usually refer to the Free Speech Movement, which is a particular movement and not taken to monopolize the issue of free speech the way the civil rights movement gobbled up "civil rights." A better term would be the Campus Uprising, because that's what the Berkeley brats started, and it was only incidentally tied to "free speech," if at all.
  35. @Anon7
    I had to laugh at the Chinese elite paying to send their kids to public school in the US. They missed it by about 40 years. US public schools suffer under the burden of teacher unions that protect the worst teachers you could possibly imagine (ask any parent with kids in the public schools). I suppose they're still better than the high schools in China.

    Also, this article doesnt mention California, where Chinese kids are sent to go to public school at taxpayer expense. All they need to do is get into the country, and stay with a "relative" in a good school district. Guess if their undocumented status is an issue. Then if they are good enough, they are guaranteed spots in California's fine university system.

    We've been played for fools for the last half-century.

    Prep schools actively recruit Chinese kids- full pays! They generally do not mix with the rest of the student body.

    I call BS on the Times story about Chinese students.

    Slightly OT- Beloit college has been roiled by hate crimes this week- 2 of the three reported have been shown to be hoaxes, I assume # 3 will be soon.

  36. @Anon
    Looks like a Red Tard.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=52&v=mNGtI3Ezdvo

    Holocaust denier, David Horowitz

    !

  37. @Thea
    Many more ethnic Russian civilians died if you count what Einsatzgruppen did. Why do the only Jews get to own the Holocaust?

    I, as a Jew, object to the co-opting of a generic, universal word such as holocaust for the specific Nazi genocide of Jews during WWII. Before elaborating any further, let me first point-out that those Jews who were behind this coinage of The Holocaust were not loyal and devout to Judaism, i.e., the Judaic religion, and certainly not representative of it.

    Yes, the Nazis did perpetrate heinous atrocities against the Jews during WWII, culminating in all-out genocide. There is no question of that much. But, while we, as Jews, may understandably find the experience to have been unique for us, the tragic reality is that plenty of other peoples have suffered their own genocides and other heinous atrocities. For Jews (and I reiterate that I am one myself) to coin a term such as The Holocaust to refer specifically and exclusively to our experience at the hand of the Nazis effectively belittles the many holocausts that other peoples have suffered. I find this arrogant, insensitive and, in light of the resentment and hostility that such chutzpah could only have been expected to bring to us, short-sighted and self-defeating.

  38. @CrunchybutRealistCon
    The far Left should be given as much wiggle room as possible in the next few months (short of allowing anarchy) to show their true colors. America needs to see what this 20% gang of AnComs & cultMarx has in store for the majority. If Trump over reacts or reacts too soon, he will lose the high ground.

    Let the far Left go further to fouling its own nests, but get ready for a coming day of reckoning. The big battle looming is when they'll try to prevent construction of the wall & stage attacks on DHS agents who trying to carry out deportations.

    America needs to see what this 20% gang of AnComs & cultMarx has in store for the majority.

    But (thanks to the media and other establishment fifth columns) how many normies and respectables will see it?

    Yes, the Internet breaks that barrier but one has to go to the right sites. And merely doing that, in these times of reverse McCarthyism, is enough to get one fired and ostracized.

    In this vein, I suppose I might as well as mention Tor, a tool that can be useful in certain cases for circumventing censorship and tracking.

    I will also mention that I find it odd that unz.com does not employ HTTPS SSL/TLS encryption and authentication. When used over a direct, non-proxied connection, a properly configured HTTPS site offers the privacy advantage that one’s ISP, network admin or an eavesdropper can only see that one visited said site, not any of one’s specific activity on it. HTTPS offers the security advantage of protecting against man-in-the-middle (MITM) attacks. When using Tor, use of HTTPS can be critical in protecting against manipulation (via packet injection) by malicious exit nodes.

    • Replies: @guest
    Reverse McCarthyism? What a perverse term. Almost as wrong as "reverse racism." The commies were already doing that before McCarthy. We only call it by his name because McCarthy did it wrong, because he was in the wrong gang. We should find someone from their gang to name the phenomenon after, but Stalinism, for instance, doesn't work.

    Maybe bust the whole thing open and call it Lincolnism, or something?

  39. @Jefferson
    "Tweakingly disturbing and rather weak performance of this Hoaxican of Philippine heritage is just another micro-proof of Trump’s Winning streak."

    Central Americans and Mexicans are so incompetent that they have to have a Filipino as the Jesse Jackson like spokesperson for Illegal Immigrants who cross the southern border into The U.S.

    "This was the same affirmative action Pulitzer recipient and self-proclaimed undocumented entrepreneur, just ten months ago when the Free World was his lumpia :"

    He is always bashing White people yet he mentioned that his boyfriend is White. He should stick to his own kind and get himself a Filipino boyfriend if White people are so bad.

    He should stick to his own kind and get himself a Filipino boyfriend if White people are so bad.

    Actually, considering the sado-masochositic dynamic that, arguably, at least, is inherent to buggery, it could very well make a lot of sense for one of the partners in a buggerous union to be “of the enemy”, no? Of course, it all depends on which one…Being able to see the partner-in-question here might, perhaps, give us a better idea of who’s who in this relationship.

  40. @bored identity
    Tweakingly disturbing and rather weak performance of this Hoaxican of Philippine heritage is just another micro-proof of Trump's Winning streak.

    Pinoychio knows that General Kelly could make his current visit to Manila into a permanent vacanciones thrilla :




    https://youtu.be/sLrUfJEJFpQ

    This was the same affirmative action Pulitzer recipient and self-proclaimed undocumented entrepreneur, just ten months ago when the Free World was his lumpia :



    https://youtu.be/HwbuJoGbiKs

    How about President Trump (I will never tire of hearing that phrase) orders this a**w**e deported tomorrow.

    Go to his house with the State Department Swat Team and do an Elio Gonzales, ripping him from his boyfriend’s arms! Put the video on YouTube captioned, “Next?”

    Nothing like a a high profile example. Plus he’s a member of the media. Plus he’s gay. It’s a two-fer!

  41. @anony-mouse
    City of Berkeley is being destroyed by lefties? Who cares why. As per Genl Sherman shouldn't we be giving them rations?

    As long as they keep away from the math/physical sciences areas (there's not Med school there) I don't see much of a problem.

    Milo's getting more publicity to sell his books.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_sY2rjxq6M

    I live in Berkeley and I do care that my city is being trashed by thugs.

  42. @Jefferson
    "It never was a free speech movement. It was always a MY speech movement.

    From my experience there, only a tiny minority of actual students care about any of this."

    Berkeley is where freedom of speech goes to die from Left Wing cancer.

    I live in Berkeley and there are lots of students in my apartment building. Most are Asians and don’t give a rat’s ass about politics. They are here to study.

    • Replies: @Desiderius

    Most are Asians and don’t give a rat’s ass about politics. They are here to study.
     
    So maybe antifa is "mismatched" white kids acting out like BLM is mismatched blacks acting out because they're getting their asses kicked in class.
  43. @Thea
    Many more ethnic Russian civilians died if you count what Einsatzgruppen did. Why do the only Jews get to own the Holocaust?

    You’re probably right, but in answer to your question: because with the Jews it’s a numbers game. Yes, they were Hitler’s primary target for extermination but it should be pointed out that the group who suffered the most for their beliefs were, believe it or not, Jehovah Witnesses. According to British historian Richard Evans, in terms of percentage of the population more Jehovah Witnesses were gassed than Jews. For the Jews, however, as far as they are concerned THEY are “Six Million”, so there’s no further debate.

    • Replies: @anon
    The Jehovah Witnesses don't honor any flag or government since Satan controls it, so I'm not surprise that they were gassed more than jews. Also, Romani were gas a lot since they are an off beat group as well.
  44. @eah
    https://twitter.com/kiarafrobles/status/827382131693285377

    An innocent bystander I assume.

    Outrageous!!!!!!

  45. @Shrill Kiners

    Fires burned in the cradle of free speech.
     
    I get the reference to the FAM, but this is aggressive, weaponized idiocy. Move over, Monticello, the real story of free expression in this country started when some west- coast Jewish kids got snippy with their Dean.

    Precisely. Same at Columbia and Madison, btw.

    Or so I was told by both goys and Jews who attended those campuses at that time and were considerably more serious about their educations than the Situationist Snowflakes were.

  46. @biz
    The distinction is that there was an organized attempt to kill every single Jewish person. The goal was to remove Jews as a people from the face of the Earth. The intent is what defines the Holocaust, and other genocides, rather than the raw body count.

    Yes, but unfortunately if that’s the case then the holocaust either didn’t exist or is a very tendentious conspiracy theory. Not to knock conspiracy theories, many of which I believe.

  47. @LLLW
    Why do so many persist in referring to UC Berkeley as the "cradle (or birthplace) of free speech"? The birthplace of protest maybe, but I'm pretty sure the concept of free speech was around before 1960, wasn't it?

    To be fair, they usually refer to the Free Speech Movement, which is a particular movement and not taken to monopolize the issue of free speech the way the civil rights movement gobbled up “civil rights.” A better term would be the Campus Uprising, because that’s what the Berkeley brats started, and it was only incidentally tied to “free speech,” if at all.

  48. @Dissident

    America needs to see what this 20% gang of AnComs & cultMarx has in store for the majority.
     
    But (thanks to the media and other establishment fifth columns) how many normies and respectables will see it?

    Yes, the Internet breaks that barrier but one has to go to the right sites. And merely doing that, in these times of reverse McCarthyism, is enough to get one fired and ostracized.

    In this vein, I suppose I might as well as mention Tor, a tool that can be useful in certain cases for circumventing censorship and tracking.

    I will also mention that I find it odd that unz.com does not employ HTTPS SSL/TLS encryption and authentication. When used over a direct, non-proxied connection, a properly configured HTTPS site offers the privacy advantage that one's ISP, network admin or an eavesdropper can only see that one visited said site, not any of one's specific activity on it. HTTPS offers the security advantage of protecting against man-in-the-middle (MITM) attacks. When using Tor, use of HTTPS can be critical in protecting against manipulation (via packet injection) by malicious exit nodes.

    Reverse McCarthyism? What a perverse term. Almost as wrong as “reverse racism.” The commies were already doing that before McCarthy. We only call it by his name because McCarthy did it wrong, because he was in the wrong gang. We should find someone from their gang to name the phenomenon after, but Stalinism, for instance, doesn’t work.

    Maybe bust the whole thing open and call it Lincolnism, or something?

  49. @Mark F.
    I live in Berkeley and there are lots of students in my apartment building. Most are Asians and don't give a rat's ass about politics. They are here to study.

    Most are Asians and don’t give a rat’s ass about politics. They are here to study.

    So maybe antifa is “mismatched” white kids acting out like BLM is mismatched blacks acting out because they’re getting their asses kicked in class.

  50. @Connecticut Famer
    You're probably right, but in answer to your question: because with the Jews it's a numbers game. Yes, they were Hitler's primary target for extermination but it should be pointed out that the group who suffered the most for their beliefs were, believe it or not, Jehovah Witnesses. According to British historian Richard Evans, in terms of percentage of the population more Jehovah Witnesses were gassed than Jews. For the Jews, however, as far as they are concerned THEY are "Six Million", so there's no further debate.

    The Jehovah Witnesses don’t honor any flag or government since Satan controls it, so I’m not surprise that they were gassed more than jews. Also, Romani were gas a lot since they are an off beat group as well.

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