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From the New York Daily News:

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Milwaukee police officer takes brick to the head during violent protests after police shooting of armed man

There’s no word yet on how this is Donald Trump’s fault, but sources say they’re working on it.

If you are interested in What’s the Matter with Wisconsin, see my 2015 post:

Wisconsin may be the state where European social democracy came closest to happening in America.

 
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  1. Doesn’t look like the land of beer and brats that I remember.

    Or, maybe it does resemble modern Europe, come to think of it.

    The area around Cologne station, for example.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    The area around Köln Hauptbahnhof is rather quiet.

    You want to look at french "banlieues" if the people are in a huff. Burning cars day and night, vandalism and all that comes with it? Mais oui!

    The UK also wasn't bad during the "riots" period of 2011.
    , @EriK
    The only time I was in Milwaukee was about 20 years ago, friends and I went on a Miller Brewer tour, caught a Brewers game (County Stadium!) and stopped in at a strip club. The only blacks I remember seeing were some on the baseball field and one, er, dancer.
  2. Police said the crowd also tossed rocks at them as they tried to clear the neighborhood. The crowd knocked down and punched one reporter for the local newspaper and chased other journalists from the area, according to the Journal-Sentinel.

    “Just had rocks thrown at me photographing this burn[ing] car at Sherman Blvd near Auer,” photojournalist Mike De Sisti tweeted. The newspaper later said on Twitter that its staff members had left the area safely.

    If the media did not keep telling me that these events are “largely peaceful,” I might accidentally draw the wrong conclusions.

    • Replies: @Flinders Petrie

    If the media did not keep telling me that these events are “largely peaceful,” I might accidentally draw the wrong conclusions.
     
    I assume they're using a strictly literal interpretation of 'largely peaceful', as in at least half of the participants did not engage in violence. According to this definition, the most infamous groups in history have also been largely peaceful: Ku Klux Klan, Nazis, Mongol hordes...
    , @Percy Gryce
    LOL. (Funny as that was, I didn't want to waste one of my buttons on it.)
  3. According to the link, this is the event that fomented the riot:

    One of the men was carrying a stolen semiautomatic handgun, and a Milwaukee officer shot him during the foot chase, according to police. The officer ordered him to drop the gun but hit him in the chest and the arm when he didn’t, cops said.

    What kind of justice do you have to believe in to think that this is something so outrageous you should riot?

    A policeman now isn’t allowed to shoot someone who is running away holding a gun, is told to drop it, but refuses to do so?

    These people aren’t normal. BLM is making them worse.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    If he was running away, it's possibly a bad shoot. I can't justify in my mind shooting at the torso or head of someone with their back turned who's trying to escape from me. On the other hand, if he was hit in the chest, I doubt he was fleeing.

    Either way, the rioting isn't justified.
    , @Marty
    "These people aren’t normal."

    When I interviewed five middle-eastern cabbies about blacks in Berkeley, one said, "there's something wrong with those people."
  4. Obama’s kids out in the streets already shooting it out with the police, and setting fire to presumably asian businesses. Facebook live makes rioting easier:

  5. The BLM crowd and thier liberal running-dogs used to make a big deal about cops who shoot unarmed suspects. But in this case the cop shot an armed suspect. I mean – really – shouldn’t cops be expected to take some fire from guys they are trying to arrest? It’s not like bullets kill people, is it?

  6. Trump needs to pay a visit to the hospital to see the injured police officer while Hillary goes and hides for a couple of days.

    • Agree: BenKenobi, AndrewR
  7. You won’t believe the prices at our late nite sale!

    https://twitter.com/LeahRBoss/status/764691302822936576

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    That picture is actually from Ferguson in 2014.
  8. As a gang of blacks break out a passing woman’s car window, beat her face in, and try to drag her out…

    “Dey jus’ beat some white bitch’s ass fo’ no reason! Dey bust her window, an eveyting! Dat shit so bold, dis is Hell!”

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5dd_1471150626

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    If I were Obama, I'd play 36 holes on Sunday and hope all the fires were finally out by the time I got off the course.
  9. This is another example of the “conquering of territory”. For example: black actor wins Oscar, now all blacks deserve all Oscars in perpetuity. Or else hell shall be paid.

    Now if any black gets killed by any police officer – of any race, for any reason – that is justification to riot. It’s conquered territory because they are willing to deploy more force than the state.

  10. The future of the USA, Canada, and Western Europe:

    http://imgur.com/a/x6DSn

    It’s been fun.

    • Agree: 415 reasons
    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    We can start over. The fun will continue.
    , @Ed
    Trump is so mean though that nice white ladies are just too offended to vote for him.

    I'm so over it now. Let the country burn it would serve us right.
    , @Clyde
    I saw that photo before and it bugged me the same way it got to you. NYC probably has the largest Bangladeshi population in America with at least 200,000. I remember a mouthy Bangladeshi guy bragging before the 911 attack about the hundreds of thousands of them in NYC. Was in the NY Times.
  11. @yowza
    As a gang of blacks break out a passing woman's car window, beat her face in, and try to drag her out...

    "Dey jus' beat some white bitch's ass fo' no reason! Dey bust her window, an eveyting! Dat shit so bold, dis is Hell!"

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5dd_1471150626

    If I were Obama, I’d play 36 holes on Sunday and hope all the fires were finally out by the time I got off the course.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Lack of statement or appearance by the president would certainly help keep it out of the news. What we don't see or hear about never happened.
    , @iSteveFan
    He can do that because anytime people on that side of the divide do bad things their backers never have to explain, disavow or worry that they might be held accountable.

    Trump received more scrutiny and blowback for receiving the unsolicited endorsement of David Duke than Hillary or Obama will receive for their minions destroying a city.
    , @Dr. X

    If I were Obama, I’d play 36 holes on Sunday and hope all the fires were finally out by the time I got off the course.
     
    No you wouldn't. You'd run to the nearest camera and give an impromptu lecture to the public on how we need more gun control and more Federal oversight of the police to make them more sensitive to the needs of minorities. And then, stuttering "I-I-I...I-I-I-I" and "N-N-N-Now, let me be clear..." you'd find a way to blame Trump and the "politics of hate."
    , @Connecticut Famer
    Yes but, even so, he still has to make one of his trademark hand-wringing speeches. Otherwise, he wouldn't be "presidential."
    , @Olorin
    Well, that IS what he was hired for in the main.

    When the Chicongo Redevelopers need him to issue Official Points regarding their model of Urban Renewal, he'll put in his Hope and Change Man cape and fly to the scene to read the teleprompter.
  12. @Steve Sailer
    If I were Obama, I'd play 36 holes on Sunday and hope all the fires were finally out by the time I got off the course.

    Lack of statement or appearance by the president would certainly help keep it out of the news. What we don’t see or hear about never happened.

  13. @Steve Sailer
    If I were Obama, I'd play 36 holes on Sunday and hope all the fires were finally out by the time I got off the course.

    He can do that because anytime people on that side of the divide do bad things their backers never have to explain, disavow or worry that they might be held accountable.

    Trump received more scrutiny and blowback for receiving the unsolicited endorsement of David Duke than Hillary or Obama will receive for their minions destroying a city.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Or could Obama be turning into David Denkins before our eyes with Donald turning into Rudy....... All played out on the larger National stage?

    Hilliary as Denkins 2nd Term.

    A winning reframe that actually is true.
  14. Not doing anything will only make it the norm, as it has now become thanks to Obama and Eric Holder’s sociopath ways. Now they’re doing it whenever they feel like it. They all think they’re in a Quintin Tarantino movie.

    Bringing in the National Guard, give fair warning, and letting them shoot at will until the streets are clear would bring better long-term results.

    Politically, the National Guard will always be far more popular than domestic black terrorists.

    • Replies: @unit472
    I think the Governor has to call out the National Guard but you are right. I was around in Berkeley circa 1970 and the National Guard often supplemented the Alameda Deputy Sheriff "Blue Meanies" in subduing the riff raff on Telegraph Ave. Of course Reagan was the Governor and UC presidents and regents still thought they should run the University not the mob.

    Mind you the 'riots' were then over a ridiculous controversy about a 'People's Park', a piece of land the University owned and wanted to build on and which was 'occupied' by protesters. There was never any looting or burning of cars that I can recall. Hippies would mass on Telegraph and toss rocks and bottles at the cops who would periodically charge and beat up the slowest hippies.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    shootem, Actually, the DOJ will be there before the National Guard, with a stringent consent decree for the Milwaukee police department. One more major city police department in federal hands.
    , @Bleuteaux
    The point about Quintin Tarantino is a good one. We've had decades now of race revenge porn movies where whitey finally gets what's coming to him. Blacks eat that shit up and are ready to be their own heroes in getting revenge. No different than some Hamas propaganda summer camp.
    , @Thea
    I remember Buchanan suggesting this week in the early days 1990s
    , @Harry Baldwin
    You probably couldn't get the National Guard to fire on rioters anymore unless they were under direct attack. They've had the same indoctrination as everyone else. Does anyone in the NG want to be the next Darren Wilson or George Zimmerman? Message has been sent and received.
  15. The protesting teens burned the gas station to ‘protest’ fossil fuels, the bank to ‘protest’ the Banksters, the Kwik-E-Mart to ‘protest’ food deserts, and the hair salon to ‘protest’ racist beauty standards. They shot at the Fire Department trying to put out the gas station fire to ‘protest’ slow response times to the Community.

    See? ‘Protest!’

    http://www.newyorkace.net/ready4hillarynotready4riots/

    • Replies: @helena
    "to ‘protest’ slow response times to the Community"

    Black Time Matters!
    Black Spontaneity Matters!

    It was the same with the London 2011 riots - five hours the family waited before they marched on the police station.

    Five hours, that's all it takes.

    , @Curle
    This was a victory riot by Paul Ryan supporters.
  16. @Lot
    You won't believe the prices at our late nite sale!

    https://twitter.com/LeahRBoss/status/764691302822936576

    That picture is actually from Ferguson in 2014.

  17. @Lot
    The future of the USA, Canada, and Western Europe:

    http://imgur.com/a/x6DSn

    It's been fun.

    We can start over. The fun will continue.

  18. The current headline at the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel is Violence erupts after officer-involved shooting.

    Here’s the start of the article, which I have edited has gotten edited to better conform to the spirit of the paper’s “stuff happens” style.

    A standoff between police and an angry crowd turned violent Saturday night in the hours after a Milwaukee police officer shot and killed an armed suspect got shot and killed during a foot chase on the city’s north side.

    After an hours-long confrontation with officers, police it was reported at 10:15 p.m. that a gas station at N. Sherman Blvd. and W. Burleigh St. was set on fire. Police said firefighters could not for a time get close It was said that closeness could not be gotten to the blaze because of gunshots.

    Later, fires were started at businesses — including a BMO Harris Bank branch, a beauty supply company and O’Reilly Auto Parts stores — near N. 35th and W. Burleigh streets, it was said grimly and emphatically by a grim and emphatic Mayor Tom Barrett said. He spoke The speech happened at a midnight news conference at the District 3 police station at N. 49th St. and W. Lisbon Ave.

    He and Common Council President Ashanti Hamilton pleaded There was pleading with the public for calm. Barrett promised a A strong police presence in coming days was promised.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    You're using the passive voice to protect the WRONG FOLKS!
    , @Percy Gryce
    Has Ron enabled the html strikethrough tag ?
  19. This riot seems more crazy than the last few. Black women particularly are off the hook. Black Lives Matter should be officially regarded as a black cult. Almost every video I’ve watched so far, I can hear a black woman screaming like she’s the subject in a voo doc ceremony. The black men are generally far less hyper:

    • Replies: @Inquiring Mind

    Black Lives Matter should be officially regarded as a black cult.
     
    On the subject of cults, any insights into the persons standing in pedestrian "islands" of major streets holding up "Homeless, please help" signs?

    Not only have I noticed that every street corner of the major intersections features one of these Sign People, but our Radical Mayor-for-Life of Wisconsin's People's Republic (just up I-94 from Milwaukee) is "noticing" the same thing. Turns out that the People's Republic had an anti-panhandling ordinance that was struck down by a Federal judge (there is no professional courtesy among SJW's?). This was 3 months ago, and since then, these Sign People seem to have appeared out of nowhere to stand vigil in intersections.

    Radical Mayor is not just noticing, he is spitting pins over this, or at least he is showing as much agitation as an aging Radical from the 60's with the low-energy affect of a chronic heart condition is able to muster. He is lobbying his City Council to pass a broader replacement ordinance to work around the First Amendment concerns of the Federal judge by making it about "traffic safety", he is castigating the homelessness advocates who are opposing this along with the City Council that is slow walking it, and he is calling the Sign People "grifters."

    "Grifters" suggest people acting on their individual initiative to cash on the lucrative panhandling trade that is now legal.

    I am wondering if the Sign People belong to a cult? None of them have the look of major mental illness, alcohol use, and malnutrition of the Downtown street people. They kind of look like the people serving as marshals when President Obama comes to town to give a speech. They kind of look like Hollywood actors where they take short-statured actors in their late 20's and early 30's and have them play teen characters. The look to have padded on some "grime makeup" and dressed down to look like a popular conception of a homeless person. With regard to my cult theory, the Sign People all look fake in the same way.

    The other thing is that some local reporter "went undercover" to work one of these street corners and found that begging could rake in a lot of money, but it seems like a lot of hard work to stand in one spot with a sign for hours in the heat and humidity that has been our summer this year. My cult theory is that there is some Jim Jones guy who calls upon his followers to do this as part of showing fealty, he rakes in the "skim" from the begging, but it is not about the money but rather part of the hazing ritual to belong to the cult to stand on the street?

    Again, the amount of money would not motivate me to undergo the hardship, but were I in a cult, the social acceptance angle could motivate me. Any insights into what could be going on?
    , @BB753
    I used to think women didn't riot. Glad to see they're empowered enough now to join in.
    , @Curle
    Lots of Alpha males at a riot. With all that testosterone at peak flow who knows what other desirable things might happen next. Women get worked up over sports injuries too.
    , @Kyle
    This isn't black lives matter. Black lives matter is mostly loser white kids. The BLM thing at the DNC in Philly was almost entirely white, it was so white that blacks didn't want to come out and join in, because there were too many white people. Even the sow on the megaphone in the back of the pickup truck started yelling at the crowd and telling the white people to stay at the back and go home, it was hilarious.

    No these people are not BLM, they are simply belligerent blacks waiting for a chance to loot and riot.
  20. @Lot
    The future of the USA, Canada, and Western Europe:

    http://imgur.com/a/x6DSn

    It's been fun.

    Trump is so mean though that nice white ladies are just too offended to vote for him.

    I’m so over it now. Let the country burn it would serve us right.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "Trump is so mean though that nice white ladies are just too offended to vote for him."

    Plenty of White men are also too offended to vote for Donald Trump. Hildabeast has support from 34 percent of White males with a college degree and 25 percent of White males without a college degree.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-polls-2016-8

    Most Americans personally know at least 1 White male who plans to vote for Hildabeast.

    Most Americans do not personally know a single Nonwhite person who plans to vote for Donald Trump.

    I have a cousin who is a White male who plans to vote for Hildabeast. He is a high school social studies teacher.
    , @Anonymous

    Trump is so mean though that nice white ladies are just too offended to vote for him.

    I’m so over it now. Let the country burn it would serve us right.
     
    Yeah, maybe nuclear war might be the answer. Like hitting reset on this sorry-ass situation. Maybe Hillary is genius and this is what she meant by "hitting the reset button" (wink, wink) with Russia.
    , @Anoni
    Yes just got off the phone with a generally moderate gun owning friend who will vote for Clinton. He married a Columbian woman and thinks Trump is anti-Latino. Its over, nobody will vote for civilization.
  21. CNN is featuring this now as ‘Violent protests after police shooting’ — it’s not explained why it was necessary to burn down a gas station as part of a ‘protest’ — but I guess that counts as ‘violence’.

    This also happened recently in Milwaukee:

    4 men accused of fatally shooting Rebecca Wood during armed robbery got away with $20

    That would be 4 black men — and the victim, Rebecca Wood (who seems to have been rather troubled), is white — in searching the CNN site, I found no mention of this killing.

    • Replies: @Big Bill
    I know the area where Rebecca Wood got shot. It is in the ghetto.

    Judging her rap sheet and the snapshot posted of her daughter, Rebecca likely was a coal burner, spawned two black bastards, and lived alone on welfare in the ghetto.

    None of which was even hinted at by the perky TV reportress. You have to read between the lines.

    Sad.
  22. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    The protesting teens burned the gas station to 'protest' fossil fuels, the bank to 'protest' the Banksters, the Kwik-E-Mart to 'protest' food deserts, and the hair salon to 'protest' racist beauty standards. They shot at the Fire Department trying to put out the gas station fire to 'protest' slow response times to the Community.

    See? 'Protest!'

    http://www.newyorkace.net/ready4hillarynotready4riots/

    “to ‘protest’ slow response times to the Community”

    Black Time Matters!
    Black Spontaneity Matters!

    It was the same with the London 2011 riots – five hours the family waited before they marched on the police station.

    Five hours, that’s all it takes.

  23. @candid_observer
    According to the link, this is the event that fomented the riot:

    One of the men was carrying a stolen semiautomatic handgun, and a Milwaukee officer shot him during the foot chase, according to police. The officer ordered him to drop the gun but hit him in the chest and the arm when he didn't, cops said.
     
    What kind of justice do you have to believe in to think that this is something so outrageous you should riot?

    A policeman now isn't allowed to shoot someone who is running away holding a gun, is told to drop it, but refuses to do so?

    These people aren't normal. BLM is making them worse.

    If he was running away, it’s possibly a bad shoot. I can’t justify in my mind shooting at the torso or head of someone with their back turned who’s trying to escape from me. On the other hand, if he was hit in the chest, I doubt he was fleeing.

    Either way, the rioting isn’t justified.

    • Replies: @Front toward enemy
    If that person is holding a gun, just comitted a violent felony then a back shoot could be justified.
    , @Dumbo
    "he was hit in the chest, I doubt he was fleeing."

    Maybe he was running backwards? Or maybe "moonwalking", like Michael Jackson.
    , @candid_observer
    If he was shot in the chest while fleeing, he must have been running backwards, greatly slowing him down.

    The guy was probably killed because he was a black man too impoverished and disadvantaged to afford fleeing lessons. A white man would have had them and the police would never have managed to shoot him.

    , @SteveRogers42
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_v._Garner#See_also

    Deadly force may only be used on a fleeing felon when the danger to the community outweighs the defendant's 4th Amendment rights (ie. armed and dangerous).
  24. All of this sucks, but I hope it does a similar thing all the lunacy did for Nixon. When I travel, I don’t normally carry a gun in my vehicle, (legal in Texas) but when I’m going through a metro area, I do. All of this shit is just way too much, and I hope people realize it.

    Then again, it took decades for the American people to realize that rule making, and constitution rewriting justices were bad for the county. So it could be a long haul.

  25. @yowza
    Not doing anything will only make it the norm, as it has now become thanks to Obama and Eric Holder's sociopath ways. Now they're doing it whenever they feel like it. They all think they're in a Quintin Tarantino movie.

    Bringing in the National Guard, give fair warning, and letting them shoot at will until the streets are clear would bring better long-term results.

    Politically, the National Guard will always be far more popular than domestic black terrorists.

    I think the Governor has to call out the National Guard but you are right. I was around in Berkeley circa 1970 and the National Guard often supplemented the Alameda Deputy Sheriff “Blue Meanies” in subduing the riff raff on Telegraph Ave. Of course Reagan was the Governor and UC presidents and regents still thought they should run the University not the mob.

    Mind you the ‘riots’ were then over a ridiculous controversy about a ‘People’s Park’, a piece of land the University owned and wanted to build on and which was ‘occupied’ by protesters. There was never any looting or burning of cars that I can recall. Hippies would mass on Telegraph and toss rocks and bottles at the cops who would periodically charge and beat up the slowest hippies.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    unit 472, That last line is funny, sucks to be slow.
    , @Ripple Earthdevil
    I live in Berserkeley not far from People's Park and 45+ years later it's still a pit full of human pathology. Less riff-raff right on Telegraph these days but the homeless population underneath freeway overpasses in the East Bay has exploded in the past year.
  26. @Ed
    Trump is so mean though that nice white ladies are just too offended to vote for him.

    I'm so over it now. Let the country burn it would serve us right.

    “Trump is so mean though that nice white ladies are just too offended to vote for him.”

    Plenty of White men are also too offended to vote for Donald Trump. Hildabeast has support from 34 percent of White males with a college degree and 25 percent of White males without a college degree.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-polls-2016-8

    Most Americans personally know at least 1 White male who plans to vote for Hildabeast.

    Most Americans do not personally know a single Nonwhite person who plans to vote for Donald Trump.

    I have a cousin who is a White male who plans to vote for Hildabeast. He is a high school social studies teacher.

    • Replies: @SFG
    I wonder how many of those are closeted Trump voters. I expect him to see a surprise jump in the polls on Election Day.

    Enough to save him, I don't know.
    , @The most deplorable one

    Most Americans do not personally know a single Nonwhite person who plans to vote for Donald Trump.
     
    I do.

    Well, actually, that is false. I know more than one non-White person who plans to vote for Donald Trump. Even more than 2. Funny thing is, they are all immigrants of color who are sick and tired of affirmative action bullshit.

    Also, there are now several indications that he will win:

    http://abcnewsgo.co/2016/08/abc-live-poll-who-are-you-voting-for/
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/always-correct-election-predictor-trump-defeating-sickly-hillary-51-48/
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2016/08/13/app-maker%E2%80%94trump-win-election/88640044/
    , @Ganderson
    I'm a HS Social Studies teacher, and I will NOT be voting for HILTRON, (Even though I live in a state that HILTRON should win easily. Most of my colleagues, male and female, will be voting for her.
    , @Whiskey
    Burying the Lead -- the link to Business Insider points that White Women WITH a College Degree support Hillary by 57% to Trump's 27%. Romney carried that demo in 2012 by six points, according to BI. Moreover Trump leads among College White men by 21 points, White men without by 31 points, and White women without College by 20 points.

    Trump trails in White women with a College degree by 30 points. That is a swing of 51 points. Between White Men and Women with College degrees. Yes some White men with College degrees support Clinton (or so they say). Scott Adams "endorsed" Clinton -- for his own safety. I imagine any White male (since I was once in education I am familiar with its toxic female-dominated PC culture) in Education would be formally "for" Hillary Clinton for his career. Same with government employees, media, etc. which are all heavily female-dominated.

    I've taken a lot of heat for pointing out the truth -- White women with College degrees have vastly different and mutually exclusive political and social interests from White men, with or without College degrees. While College degrees do decrease Trump support among White men, for White women the effect is catastrophic.

    Trump simply will not win without cutting into Clinton's lead among White women with College -- he will never get a majority but "losing" to Clinton by say ten points gives him victory. Since his success depends on Blue Collar White male turnout as much as margin.

    Taking riots that **VICTIMIZE** White women and acting as the "bad, dangerous protector" ala Tony Soprano, Walter White, and other bad-good heroes on TV is the way to cut Hillary's lead among the "I can't even, wow just wow" White female professional class. Hillary has a huge lead because the media defined Trump as socially unacceptable -- and that will *NEVER* change. He "defied" a Pakistani Muslim who chided him and the social mores have White men at the bottom having to cringe and bend knees whenever some non-White acts up. [Since it offers an opportunity for Professional White women to move up one notch when the defenestration begins.]

    Trump seems clueless in understanding this, and must pose as the only one "bad enough" to protect Professional White women to cut Hillary's lead -- that hits primal things in women's responses that cuts through social mores and "acceptability" and the caste system.

    Trump has to make White Professional women fear that their head will be bashed in, not by the ex-husbands of the female writers on Law and Orderen, all banker lawyer White male executives, as Steve has noted many times, but Sons of Obama. And he needs to make them feel that only he is bad and dangerous enough to crack down on the Sons of Obama.

    Hillary's one weakness is her pandering to BLM and Muslim jihadis. No one not even White Professional women trusts her in going after those groups. Trump will never win this demo but he can get enough to see a path to victory.

    Putting White Professional women on a pedestal, being Mitt Romney "nice" and refusing to see the problem clearly and come up with a workable solution is a path to certain, massive defeat and President for Life Hillary Clinton.
    , @granesperanzablanco
    I'm a white (mostly) male voting for Hillary. If the GOP had nominated someone less repugnant than Trump or Cruz I would have voted GOP

    Status quo isn't so bad for me
    , @rod1963
    Those numbers of white men voting for Hillary are terrible. She has no traction among men at least the non-Beta types.

    I can see those who work for the state and federal gov't supporting her since she promises explosive growth of government services.
    , @Brutusale
    Humans with penises. Not men.
  27. “A BLM Riot Breaks Out in Milwaukee; Trump Not Yet Blamed”

    Also not blamed is the financial crisis caused by years and trillions of dollars spent on losing wars.

  28. Wisconsin German voters are still going to help Hildabeast win that state in November. Germans dislike Negro riots, but Germans dislike Donald Trump way more.

    • Replies: @Anonym
    A riot in a large city of a swing state will only help Trump.
    , @SFG
    It's more Midwestern nice at this point, I think. German-American culture was almost wiped out after WW1, though in my time in Cleveland I enjoyed many fine brews and schnitzels. ;)
    , @schmenz
    I'm afraid you're right. There's an old joke-saying in Milwaukee which goes something like this: (add European accent) "My great-grandaddy voted Democrat, my granddaddy voted Democrat, my daddy voted Democrat and I'M voting Democrat".

    And - joy of joys - I live three minutes from the scene of Milwaukee's terrorism last night.
    , @Big Bill
    Jefferson! Homeboy! I lived on Bernhard Place. Brings back memories. I had to teach my wife how to tell the difference between firecrackers and gunshots. I also had to tell her not to open the shades and look out the window "to see what was going on" (!!). My response: "you really don't want to know."

    Most of the ghetto trouble used to be south of Burleigh and east of Sherman. Has the line shifted?
  29. From an RT short this morning on the mayhem in Milwaukee:

    On Friday, a homicide was reported in an area just one block from the shooting, and, on Saturday, a double homicide took place some four blocks from the site. In total, five people were killed in incidents involving shootings within the nine hours leading up to Saturday morning.

    Then, the Black rioters, many of whom were also armed, looted and burned four local businesses. There are reports that the police barricaded themselves in the local police station until reinforcements in riot gear could reach the scene. (Did the police fear another Dallas?)

    This is getting irksome. I guess Black-on-Black violence amounts to nothing in the Black community … such as creating the impression that the Black areas of Milwaukee are dangerous because they are populated with large numbers of “home boys” who are armed and are disposed to kill each other and anyone else who gets in their way.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "This is getting irksome. I guess Black-on-Black violence amounts to nothing in the Black community … such as creating the impression that the Black areas of Milwaukee are dangerous because they are populated with large numbers of “home boys” who are armed and are disposed to kill each other and anyone else who gets in their way."

    The Left will tell you Black neighborhoods in Milwaukee are dangerous because of racial segregation. When Blacks don't have White next door neighbors they lash out with violence.

    They will also blame guns. If guns by themselves commit killings than a military town like San Diego should be the murder capital of America with a much higher homicide rate than Milwaukee, Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore, Atlanta, etc.
  30. anon • Disclaimer says:

    Not really in the news yet–not even approximating what’s really happening–is the worst flood in baton rouge history.

    well worse than katrina.

    pray for the people down there but the circumstances are dire. there are people asleep right now in places that could “never flood” that are going to wake up flooded and cut off from any roads.

    please remember: never, ever wait to evacuate. by the time it’s too late, it’s often too late. I’m not even talking about people who refused to evacuate. the situation just got worse and worse. If you ever find yourself asking if/when you should leave the answer is yes/now. things change. often for the worse

    it’s rising from backflow as we speak and there’s fresh rain this morning.

  31. Out in the Midwestern Wisconsin town of Milwaukee, I fell in love with a rioting African American girl.

    • Replies: @cipher
    Good one, Jefferson. Mudsharking - aka jungle fever - has been all the rage in alcohol-drenched Wisconsin for a couple of decades now. The sex and race of those involved is almost always White female, Black male.

    It's how disgruntled mothers stick a lethal shiv -the end of daddy's gene lines - into their husbands/paramours. Not just in Wisconsin, but anywhere mudsharking is observed.
  32. @Lot
    The future of the USA, Canada, and Western Europe:

    http://imgur.com/a/x6DSn

    It's been fun.

    I saw that photo before and it bugged me the same way it got to you. NYC probably has the largest Bangladeshi population in America with at least 200,000. I remember a mouthy Bangladeshi guy bragging before the 911 attack about the hundreds of thousands of them in NYC. Was in the NY Times.

    • Replies: @Lot
    Bangladeshi and Pakistani immigration is especially dangerous for our future because they are crowded, extremely poor, disease-ridden, backward, low-IQ and Muslim countries with 172 million and 202 million people, respectively. More people than the USA and Canada combined.

    Right now we do not get many of their non-elite populations simply because there is no critical mass here already for illegals to blend into, provide arrival housing, and loan money for their airfare with remittances.

    When that critical mass happens though, we are doomed. It happened with El Salvador, Somalia, Cuba, Dominican Republican, and Philippines.

    The picture is especially depressing because it shows the type of South Asians we have to fear, not the pleasant computer programmers, motel owners, or doctors that make up so many of them historically, and who quickly spread out, blend in and have low fertility.

    Instead the picture shows angry, dumb-faced inbreds who gather in the street to shout about how much they hate racist Old Americans.
  33. @wren
    Doesn't look like the land of beer and brats that I remember.

    Or, maybe it does resemble modern Europe, come to think of it.

    The area around Cologne station, for example.

    The area around Köln Hauptbahnhof is rather quiet.

    You want to look at french “banlieues” if the people are in a huff. Burning cars day and night, vandalism and all that comes with it? Mais oui!

    The UK also wasn’t bad during the “riots” period of 2011.

  34. @Chrisnonymous
    If he was running away, it's possibly a bad shoot. I can't justify in my mind shooting at the torso or head of someone with their back turned who's trying to escape from me. On the other hand, if he was hit in the chest, I doubt he was fleeing.

    Either way, the rioting isn't justified.

    If that person is holding a gun, just comitted a violent felony then a back shoot could be justified.

  35. I think municipal pensions need to be enhanced. It is outrageous police have to wait 20 yrs to retire, more retired cops would have this situation under control.

  36. @Jefferson
    Wisconsin German voters are still going to help Hildabeast win that state in November. Germans dislike Negro riots, but Germans dislike Donald Trump way more.

    A riot in a large city of a swing state will only help Trump.

  37. Police officer shot and killed in Eastman Georgia last evening…. called to a dispute, gets out of car and is shot. It was just a quick report on the early am news here in the west… no more than that.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=police+officer+shot+Eastman+Georgia&oq=police+officer+shot+Eastman+Georgia&aqs=chrome..69i57.9271j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

  38. Don’t know what happened to the Cheese Heads. They seem to be united in their desire to be governed by the Cock Brothers.

    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
    Cuck brothers?
    , @Forbes
    Or the Coke Brothas...
  39. @wren
    Doesn't look like the land of beer and brats that I remember.

    Or, maybe it does resemble modern Europe, come to think of it.

    The area around Cologne station, for example.

    The only time I was in Milwaukee was about 20 years ago, friends and I went on a Miller Brewer tour, caught a Brewers game (County Stadium!) and stopped in at a strip club. The only blacks I remember seeing were some on the baseball field and one, er, dancer.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    It was 29 years ago for me, the next-to-last stop on a summer trip with my rotisserie league buddies that we called The Rust Belt Tour, 1987. NY (both parks), Philly, Pittsburgh, Detroit, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Chicago (both), Milwaukee and Minnesota. Old County Stadium was the cheapest venue; I think we paid $5 for crap seats and ended up moving to boxes right behind the visiting dugout, as I think there were about 10,000 fans in attendance.

    What sticks out was how white the city was compared to the other places we'd been and the fact that, for $1.50, you had a choice of 5 different beers that they poured right at your seat.

    We were all newly married, so we didn't feel the need to hit the strip joints. They'd be the first stop now!

  40. The boredom and disregard for law an order used to mostly confine itself to black on black crime with occasional instances of “wilding” but BLM and the media have given urban blacks the green light to lash out at symbols identified with whites. We are entering a new era in which race-motivated destruction of property and violence is characterized as a justified reaction by the group least likely to adhere to cultural norms that produce relative social stability.

    I am not sure how President Hilary will deal with all this – on the one hand, she has to mouth the obligatory slogans about systemic injustices and so on. However, she has never seemed to be someone who really cares about blacks or their issues and is just going through the motions in her pandering – to the point of absurdity like her comment on black radio that she carries hot sauce in her purse. She seems to be law and order in her mentality and more likely to emphasize the need to restore basic public safety rather than take the Obama approach of tacitly legitimizing BLM.

    She is headed towards a blowout election and won’t owe blacks for it the way she might have if it were close.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Arclight, I think right now Hillary's handlers, oh that's a scuzzy thought, are crafting her "Sista Soulja" response to this riot. Reality now follows Steve & Co.
    , @5371
    She's not headed towards a blowout election.
    , @bomag
    Bill Clinton did law and order, but I'm not sure about Hillary: she didn't push too hard to get Osama; she left Bengazi to burn and be covered up. She just might find BLM useful for scaring her opponents.
    , @yaqub the mad scientist
    This is as cynical as I can make myself go, but I honestly wonder if in her presidency she'll let one or two Fergusons go on for political symbolism and venting out: clamp down if anything significant breaks out in DCs and San Francisco-level places, but let a politically unimportant nowheresville like Dayton Ohio roast for a few days.
    , @SteveRogers42
    Heading to get blown out, you mean. Assuming she can even make it to Election Day.
  41. @TheJester
    From an RT short this morning on the mayhem in Milwaukee:

    On Friday, a homicide was reported in an area just one block from the shooting, and, on Saturday, a double homicide took place some four blocks from the site. In total, five people were killed in incidents involving shootings within the nine hours leading up to Saturday morning.
     
    Then, the Black rioters, many of whom were also armed, looted and burned four local businesses. There are reports that the police barricaded themselves in the local police station until reinforcements in riot gear could reach the scene. (Did the police fear another Dallas?)

    This is getting irksome. I guess Black-on-Black violence amounts to nothing in the Black community ... such as creating the impression that the Black areas of Milwaukee are dangerous because they are populated with large numbers of "home boys" who are armed and are disposed to kill each other and anyone else who gets in their way.

    “This is getting irksome. I guess Black-on-Black violence amounts to nothing in the Black community … such as creating the impression that the Black areas of Milwaukee are dangerous because they are populated with large numbers of “home boys” who are armed and are disposed to kill each other and anyone else who gets in their way.”

    The Left will tell you Black neighborhoods in Milwaukee are dangerous because of racial segregation. When Blacks don’t have White next door neighbors they lash out with violence.

    They will also blame guns. If guns by themselves commit killings than a military town like San Diego should be the murder capital of America with a much higher homicide rate than Milwaukee, Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore, Atlanta, etc.

  42. @eah
    CNN is featuring this now as 'Violent protests after police shooting' -- it's not explained why it was necessary to burn down a gas station as part of a 'protest' -- but I guess that counts as 'violence'.

    This also happened recently in Milwaukee:

    4 men accused of fatally shooting Rebecca Wood during armed robbery got away with $20

    That would be 4 black men -- and the victim, Rebecca Wood (who seems to have been rather troubled), is white -- in searching the CNN site, I found no mention of this killing.

    I know the area where Rebecca Wood got shot. It is in the ghetto.

    Judging her rap sheet and the snapshot posted of her daughter, Rebecca likely was a coal burner, spawned two black bastards, and lived alone on welfare in the ghetto.

    None of which was even hinted at by the perky TV reportress. You have to read between the lines.

    Sad.

  43. @yowza
    This riot seems more crazy than the last few. Black women particularly are off the hook. Black Lives Matter should be officially regarded as a black cult. Almost every video I've watched so far, I can hear a black woman screaming like she's the subject in a voo doc ceremony. The black men are generally far less hyper:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSWo4eDJghs

    Black Lives Matter should be officially regarded as a black cult.

    On the subject of cults, any insights into the persons standing in pedestrian “islands” of major streets holding up “Homeless, please help” signs?

    Not only have I noticed that every street corner of the major intersections features one of these Sign People, but our Radical Mayor-for-Life of Wisconsin’s People’s Republic (just up I-94 from Milwaukee) is “noticing” the same thing. Turns out that the People’s Republic had an anti-panhandling ordinance that was struck down by a Federal judge (there is no professional courtesy among SJW’s?). This was 3 months ago, and since then, these Sign People seem to have appeared out of nowhere to stand vigil in intersections.

    Radical Mayor is not just noticing, he is spitting pins over this, or at least he is showing as much agitation as an aging Radical from the 60′s with the low-energy affect of a chronic heart condition is able to muster. He is lobbying his City Council to pass a broader replacement ordinance to work around the First Amendment concerns of the Federal judge by making it about “traffic safety”, he is castigating the homelessness advocates who are opposing this along with the City Council that is slow walking it, and he is calling the Sign People “grifters.”

    “Grifters” suggest people acting on their individual initiative to cash on the lucrative panhandling trade that is now legal.

    I am wondering if the Sign People belong to a cult? None of them have the look of major mental illness, alcohol use, and malnutrition of the Downtown street people. They kind of look like the people serving as marshals when President Obama comes to town to give a speech. They kind of look like Hollywood actors where they take short-statured actors in their late 20′s and early 30′s and have them play teen characters. The look to have padded on some “grime makeup” and dressed down to look like a popular conception of a homeless person. With regard to my cult theory, the Sign People all look fake in the same way.

    The other thing is that some local reporter “went undercover” to work one of these street corners and found that begging could rake in a lot of money, but it seems like a lot of hard work to stand in one spot with a sign for hours in the heat and humidity that has been our summer this year. My cult theory is that there is some Jim Jones guy who calls upon his followers to do this as part of showing fealty, he rakes in the “skim” from the begging, but it is not about the money but rather part of the hazing ritual to belong to the cult to stand on the street?

    Again, the amount of money would not motivate me to undergo the hardship, but were I in a cult, the social acceptance angle could motivate me. Any insights into what could be going on?

    • Replies: @bomag

    ... persons standing in pedestrian “islands” of major streets holding up “Homeless, please help” signs?
     
    All I know is from a blurb in the nearby mid-size city paper where the council was going to require such to buy a license because they are all professional panhandlers. I noticed a drop in the raw numbers, so one option is to tax it out of existence.
    , @Jim Don Bob
    A lot of them in my blue area get dropped off in the morning and then picked up in the evening just in time for the Free Homeless Food Van. Many of the locals give them money; not me. Yes, some of them are pathetic, but they'd better off going to the Salvation Army (the only charity I give to) rather than hanging out on the streets.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Inquiring, Yes, standing in the heat and humidity is grueling, but not as crushing as roofing or hot asphalt work in the heat and humidity, right?
    , @The Last Real Calvinist
    Interesting theory.

    The Calvinists have just returned from a holiday that included a visit to Vancouver, BC, and we were amazed at the number of panhandlers throughout that city. Lots of them were indeed in their 20s and 30s, and didn't have that look charateristic of long-term street life.
    , @Laugh Track
    I live in a major west coast city and there have been plenty of sign people on the meridians of major arteries near stop lights or at the foot of off-ramps from freeways. I think it is just one of a bunch of urban panhandling strategies.

    I did find it amusing that one time when I was driving down one of those arteries at the end of the afternoon, one of the sign people was knocking off "work" and pulled out a cell phone to (presumably) call the wife. At the time I didn't even own a cell phone, but here was a panhandler with one. I assumed he must be making good money.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    I've seen this in my town too. When I exit the supermarket parking lot, there's usually a girl standing there, begging, where you have to wait for the light to change. She's probably in her 20s, slim, fairly attractive, a little grubby like a hippie. Always smiles. Has a small backpack and bottled water. Not sure what to make of her--a drug addict or cult member? More wholesome looking than a streetwalker.
  44. OT, but the Rio women’s marathon has an air of Idiocracy about it. The watering arrangements are chaotic (placing a bottle immediately before a metal post so you’ll break a wrist if you snatch it on the run, athletes having to stop) and they have sets of mist sprayers on the route to cool the athletes in the noon sun. There’s a breeze, the sprayers are on only one side of the road, and as the girls sweat past they can watch the mist spray drifting away from the road, none of it landing on the runners.

    • Replies: @SFG
    It's Brazil. Organization is not their strong point.
    , @Ivy
    The runners did benefit from the heavy police presence on the course to chase away or swarm the protesters, fans and others getting over the barriers. No word on whether those were Hungarian and Macedonian mercenaries.
  45. @yowza
    Not doing anything will only make it the norm, as it has now become thanks to Obama and Eric Holder's sociopath ways. Now they're doing it whenever they feel like it. They all think they're in a Quintin Tarantino movie.

    Bringing in the National Guard, give fair warning, and letting them shoot at will until the streets are clear would bring better long-term results.

    Politically, the National Guard will always be far more popular than domestic black terrorists.

    shootem, Actually, the DOJ will be there before the National Guard, with a stringent consent decree for the Milwaukee police department. One more major city police department in federal hands.

  46. @Steve Sailer
    If I were Obama, I'd play 36 holes on Sunday and hope all the fires were finally out by the time I got off the course.

    If I were Obama, I’d play 36 holes on Sunday and hope all the fires were finally out by the time I got off the course.

    No you wouldn’t. You’d run to the nearest camera and give an impromptu lecture to the public on how we need more gun control and more Federal oversight of the police to make them more sensitive to the needs of minorities. And then, stuttering “I-I-I…I-I-I-I” and “N-N-N-Now, let me be clear…” you’d find a way to blame Trump and the “politics of hate.”

    • Replies: @Kyle
    "That's not who we are"
  47. @unit472
    I think the Governor has to call out the National Guard but you are right. I was around in Berkeley circa 1970 and the National Guard often supplemented the Alameda Deputy Sheriff "Blue Meanies" in subduing the riff raff on Telegraph Ave. Of course Reagan was the Governor and UC presidents and regents still thought they should run the University not the mob.

    Mind you the 'riots' were then over a ridiculous controversy about a 'People's Park', a piece of land the University owned and wanted to build on and which was 'occupied' by protesters. There was never any looting or burning of cars that I can recall. Hippies would mass on Telegraph and toss rocks and bottles at the cops who would periodically charge and beat up the slowest hippies.

    unit 472, That last line is funny, sucks to be slow.

  48. Yes, indeed, EVERY protest is now a Black Matters Protest after cops shoot blacks. That is the convenient narrative pushed by the alternative media. It’s much easier that way.

    The fact is that white and black cops chased two black armed robbers, with one killing a suspect. In the aftermath, a crowd gathered, which is going to occur in the wake of all situations similar to this one, but in particular in Milwaukee, given its history with police and the community within the past five years with numerous incidents.

    Some in the crowd are going to be noisy but peaceful, others are going to act thuggish.

    “If he was running away, it’s possibly a bad shoot. I can’t justify in my mind shooting at the torso or head of someone with their back turned who’s trying to escape from me. On the other hand, if he was hit in the chest, I doubt he was fleeing.”

    Even if he is running away, he was ordered to drop his weapon numerous times. When he turned at the cops, his weapon was drawn. Based on the preliminaries, it’s a clean shoot.

    “Either way, the rioting isn’t justified.”

    Of course not. Neither is characterizing every single riot in the hood as a mere Black Matters Protest as a meme.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    Well knock me over with a feather, I agree with Corvinus!
    , @anon
    this one, but in particular in Milwaukee, given its history with police and the community within the past

    Its history of black people committing crimes and then getting mad when police make them stop? I believe it.
  49. @Arclight
    The boredom and disregard for law an order used to mostly confine itself to black on black crime with occasional instances of "wilding" but BLM and the media have given urban blacks the green light to lash out at symbols identified with whites. We are entering a new era in which race-motivated destruction of property and violence is characterized as a justified reaction by the group least likely to adhere to cultural norms that produce relative social stability.

    I am not sure how President Hilary will deal with all this - on the one hand, she has to mouth the obligatory slogans about systemic injustices and so on. However, she has never seemed to be someone who really cares about blacks or their issues and is just going through the motions in her pandering - to the point of absurdity like her comment on black radio that she carries hot sauce in her purse. She seems to be law and order in her mentality and more likely to emphasize the need to restore basic public safety rather than take the Obama approach of tacitly legitimizing BLM.

    She is headed towards a blowout election and won't owe blacks for it the way she might have if it were close.

    Arclight, I think right now Hillary’s handlers, oh that’s a scuzzy thought, are crafting her “Sista Soulja” response to this riot. Reality now follows Steve & Co.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "Arclight, I think right now Hillary’s handlers, oh that’s a scuzzy thought, are crafting her “Sista Soulja” response to this riot. Reality now follows Steve & Co."

    Hildabeast will never have a Sista Soulja moment. Her biggest backer George Soros will cut off funding to her presidential campaign if she dared tried to pull a stunt like that. George Soros financially funds Black Lies Matter, so he has a zero tolerance policy for Sista Soulja moments. George Soros is Crooked Hillary's sugar daddy.

  50. @Arclight
    The boredom and disregard for law an order used to mostly confine itself to black on black crime with occasional instances of "wilding" but BLM and the media have given urban blacks the green light to lash out at symbols identified with whites. We are entering a new era in which race-motivated destruction of property and violence is characterized as a justified reaction by the group least likely to adhere to cultural norms that produce relative social stability.

    I am not sure how President Hilary will deal with all this - on the one hand, she has to mouth the obligatory slogans about systemic injustices and so on. However, she has never seemed to be someone who really cares about blacks or their issues and is just going through the motions in her pandering - to the point of absurdity like her comment on black radio that she carries hot sauce in her purse. She seems to be law and order in her mentality and more likely to emphasize the need to restore basic public safety rather than take the Obama approach of tacitly legitimizing BLM.

    She is headed towards a blowout election and won't owe blacks for it the way she might have if it were close.

    She’s not headed towards a blowout election.

  51. @yowza
    This riot seems more crazy than the last few. Black women particularly are off the hook. Black Lives Matter should be officially regarded as a black cult. Almost every video I've watched so far, I can hear a black woman screaming like she's the subject in a voo doc ceremony. The black men are generally far less hyper:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSWo4eDJghs

    I used to think women didn’t riot. Glad to see they’re empowered enough now to join in.

  52. OT:
    Look who the lefty loons are trying to destroy now. Blake Shelton because of some tweets he made five years ago and has since deleted.

    http://goo.gl/PaotXl _____ 14 August 2016 UK Daily Mail
    ‘Racist piece of s**t’: Blake Shelton is blasted by furious fans as ‘historic sexist, Islamophobic and homophobic Tweets are unveiled’
    Blake Shelton has come under fire for reportedly sending racist, homophobic and sexist Tweets five years ago, although the messages have now been deleted.
    The alleged social media posts included jokes about a bomb and a ‘fantasy’ about then 16-year-old Dakota Fanning, although there is no way to verify the authenticity of the posts, which are said to have been shared in 2011.

  53. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:

    If Obama had a city …

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "If Obama had a city …"

    All big cities in The Midwest are Obama cities.
  54. @Jefferson
    Wisconsin German voters are still going to help Hildabeast win that state in November. Germans dislike Negro riots, but Germans dislike Donald Trump way more.

    It’s more Midwestern nice at this point, I think. German-American culture was almost wiped out after WW1, though in my time in Cleveland I enjoyed many fine brews and schnitzels. ;)

  55. @Jefferson
    "Trump is so mean though that nice white ladies are just too offended to vote for him."

    Plenty of White men are also too offended to vote for Donald Trump. Hildabeast has support from 34 percent of White males with a college degree and 25 percent of White males without a college degree.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-polls-2016-8

    Most Americans personally know at least 1 White male who plans to vote for Hildabeast.

    Most Americans do not personally know a single Nonwhite person who plans to vote for Donald Trump.

    I have a cousin who is a White male who plans to vote for Hildabeast. He is a high school social studies teacher.

    I wonder how many of those are closeted Trump voters. I expect him to see a surprise jump in the polls on Election Day.

    Enough to save him, I don’t know.

    • Replies: @415 reasons
    It's over. The bump in the polls came during the convention when people heard what Trump actually has to say and not non-stop attack ads disguised as news reports. And the shy Tory effect wasn't enough to prevent him from taking a lead then. Does the media put their finger on the scale when taking the polls? Probably a little, but not enough to account for a 7 point lead in the polls.

    Even if Trump were to win it wouldn't make a difference in the long run. We can't elect a new media, or make the grown ups in this country start acting like grown ups again. It's a long slow slog to the bottom, and a four year holding action wouldn't change the end of the story. Voters in this country are a pack of fickle mush heads who believe a bunch of bullshit about our glorious rainbow future instead of their own lying eyes. We deserve what's in store for us.
    , @candid_observer
    Yeah, I do wonder how large the Shy "Worse than a Nazi!!" vote might be in this election.

    Probably bigger than it's ever been.
    , @SteveRogers42
    Be of good cheer!

    https://i.sli.mg/i1NiF4.jpg
  56. @Anonymous Nephew
    OT, but the Rio women's marathon has an air of Idiocracy about it. The watering arrangements are chaotic (placing a bottle immediately before a metal post so you'll break a wrist if you snatch it on the run, athletes having to stop) and they have sets of mist sprayers on the route to cool the athletes in the noon sun. There's a breeze, the sprayers are on only one side of the road, and as the girls sweat past they can watch the mist spray drifting away from the road, none of it landing on the runners.

    It’s Brazil. Organization is not their strong point.

  57. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:
    @Jefferson
    "Trump is so mean though that nice white ladies are just too offended to vote for him."

    Plenty of White men are also too offended to vote for Donald Trump. Hildabeast has support from 34 percent of White males with a college degree and 25 percent of White males without a college degree.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-polls-2016-8

    Most Americans personally know at least 1 White male who plans to vote for Hildabeast.

    Most Americans do not personally know a single Nonwhite person who plans to vote for Donald Trump.

    I have a cousin who is a White male who plans to vote for Hildabeast. He is a high school social studies teacher.

    Most Americans do not personally know a single Nonwhite person who plans to vote for Donald Trump.

    I do.

    Well, actually, that is false. I know more than one non-White person who plans to vote for Donald Trump. Even more than 2. Funny thing is, they are all immigrants of color who are sick and tired of affirmative action bullshit.

    Also, there are now several indications that he will win:

    http://abcnewsgo.co/2016/08/abc-live-poll-who-are-you-voting-for/

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/always-correct-election-predictor-trump-defeating-sickly-hillary-51-48/

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2016/08/13/app-maker%E2%80%94trump-win-election/88640044/

    • Replies: @Buck Turgidson
    Have encountered several DC cab drivers, African natives, who are huge Trumpistas. Some possessed Turgidsonlike levels of enthusiasm and ire, which is saying something.
  58. OT: WaPo, 08/14/16 – Marion Christopher Barry, son of former D.C. mayor, has died

    Marion Christopher Barry, son of the late D.C. mayor Marion Barry and former candidate for the Ward 8 council seat, has died, according to relatives and news reports. He was 36. The younger Barry died of an apparent drug overdose, according to reports. His girlfriend found him, and he was taken to George Washington University Hospital.

    Barry had struggled with drug use. He ran unsuccessfully for the Ward 8 council seat last year after his father died. Barry had brushes with the law, including charges related to an alleged outburst at a Chinatown bank branch…

    • Replies: @Ivy
    There is a Marion Barry quality to the current Hillary campaign. Look at how he was Mr. Cocaine and got re-elected.
    How much more does she have to do to make people finally not want to vote for her? What does a vote for her in spite of all the evidence, and more to come, say about her followers?
  59. The police shooting did not cause the riot. The riot had been ongoing for weeks due to general black-take-over-the-store mentality. The riot had escalated into broken windows and random shooting-into-the-air-by-blacks-because-falling-bullets-fall-somewhere-else-and-don’t hurt-me behavior. Then, the police tried to apprehend one black with a gun.

    The police are blamed because it is easier to blame them than to accept responsibility for black-mob-behavior.

  60. @Steve Sailer
    If I were Obama, I'd play 36 holes on Sunday and hope all the fires were finally out by the time I got off the course.

    Yes but, even so, he still has to make one of his trademark hand-wringing speeches. Otherwise, he wouldn’t be “presidential.”

  61. @wren

    Police said the crowd also tossed rocks at them as they tried to clear the neighborhood. The crowd knocked down and punched one reporter for the local newspaper and chased other journalists from the area, according to the Journal-Sentinel.

    "Just had rocks thrown at me photographing this burn[ing] car at Sherman Blvd near Auer," photojournalist Mike De Sisti tweeted. The newspaper later said on Twitter that its staff members had left the area safely.
     
    If the media did not keep telling me that these events are "largely peaceful," I might accidentally draw the wrong conclusions.

    If the media did not keep telling me that these events are “largely peaceful,” I might accidentally draw the wrong conclusions.

    I assume they’re using a strictly literal interpretation of ‘largely peaceful’, as in at least half of the participants did not engage in violence. According to this definition, the most infamous groups in history have also been largely peaceful: Ku Klux Klan, Nazis, Mongol hordes…

  62. O/T Ledecky and Hosszu are doping, right? And let’s not be sexist, most of the men but please, there’s no way in hell those two aren’t on something.

  63. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    The protesting teens burned the gas station to 'protest' fossil fuels, the bank to 'protest' the Banksters, the Kwik-E-Mart to 'protest' food deserts, and the hair salon to 'protest' racist beauty standards. They shot at the Fire Department trying to put out the gas station fire to 'protest' slow response times to the Community.

    See? 'Protest!'

    http://www.newyorkace.net/ready4hillarynotready4riots/

    This was a victory riot by Paul Ryan supporters.

  64. @SFG
    I wonder how many of those are closeted Trump voters. I expect him to see a surprise jump in the polls on Election Day.

    Enough to save him, I don't know.

    It’s over. The bump in the polls came during the convention when people heard what Trump actually has to say and not non-stop attack ads disguised as news reports. And the shy Tory effect wasn’t enough to prevent him from taking a lead then. Does the media put their finger on the scale when taking the polls? Probably a little, but not enough to account for a 7 point lead in the polls.

    Even if Trump were to win it wouldn’t make a difference in the long run. We can’t elect a new media, or make the grown ups in this country start acting like grown ups again. It’s a long slow slog to the bottom, and a four year holding action wouldn’t change the end of the story. Voters in this country are a pack of fickle mush heads who believe a bunch of bullshit about our glorious rainbow future instead of their own lying eyes. We deserve what’s in store for us.

    • Replies: @Anon
    Wow, how utterly depressing and completely true. Trump's election would have very little difference. We're in permanent hock to the Chinese politburo. Our country has gone over the cliff.
    , @Dee
    I agree the voters are spastic; but the media does slant the polling. LA times had a poll a week before the recall election. Poll said recall fails and Bustamonte was the first pick but it don't make any difference. On their web site, they posted the particulars of the poll. That they couldn't reach enough Asians so they assumed they would vote the same as the NAM's. We know how that turned out....

    Trump isn't running against H, he's running against the MSM.
    , @SteveRogers42
    Polls are meaningless. Completely manipulated to boost The Agenda:

    https://i.reddituploads.com/6696e4832aa841729f233fd9ffc90c69?fit=max&h=1536&w=1536&s=3a132445e4ff97e407761c0b8f832838

    Compare crowd photos from Trump rallies to those from Clinton rallies. Any state.

  65. @yowza
    This riot seems more crazy than the last few. Black women particularly are off the hook. Black Lives Matter should be officially regarded as a black cult. Almost every video I've watched so far, I can hear a black woman screaming like she's the subject in a voo doc ceremony. The black men are generally far less hyper:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSWo4eDJghs

    Lots of Alpha males at a riot. With all that testosterone at peak flow who knows what other desirable things might happen next. Women get worked up over sports injuries too.

    • Replies: @Ed
    Your comment made me think about Field day when I was in the 9th grade. During the race the quarterback of our JV football team, fell down hurt his ankle or something . About 10 girls rushed out to the track in a frenzy, it was the weirdest thing.
  66. @Arclight
    The boredom and disregard for law an order used to mostly confine itself to black on black crime with occasional instances of "wilding" but BLM and the media have given urban blacks the green light to lash out at symbols identified with whites. We are entering a new era in which race-motivated destruction of property and violence is characterized as a justified reaction by the group least likely to adhere to cultural norms that produce relative social stability.

    I am not sure how President Hilary will deal with all this - on the one hand, she has to mouth the obligatory slogans about systemic injustices and so on. However, she has never seemed to be someone who really cares about blacks or their issues and is just going through the motions in her pandering - to the point of absurdity like her comment on black radio that she carries hot sauce in her purse. She seems to be law and order in her mentality and more likely to emphasize the need to restore basic public safety rather than take the Obama approach of tacitly legitimizing BLM.

    She is headed towards a blowout election and won't owe blacks for it the way she might have if it were close.

    Bill Clinton did law and order, but I’m not sure about Hillary: she didn’t push too hard to get Osama; she left Bengazi to burn and be covered up. She just might find BLM useful for scaring her opponents.

  67. Historic flooding in Louisiana claims 3 lives. It’s not yet known if any of the 3 was black so Trump is not yet being blamed.

    • Replies: @anon
    It's much worse than you'd know from the current reporting.

    Things went to hell last night while people were asleep. It's still getting worse.

    Can confirm that Trump is in fact to blame, though.
    , @EriK
    I blame GWB.
  68. The best infographic I’ve seen lately: http://goo.gl/Oh5LCz

  69. We’re past the tipping point.

  70. Yesterday night I look at news headlines on my phone and see a photo of a rising column of flame with the caption: “Volcano erupts in Milwaukee.”

    WHAT???

    Then I look closer: “Violence erupts in Milwaukee.” Oh. Right.

    They really should stop using words like “erupts” unless it’s an actual geological event. My eyes are not what they used to be, and for a second there I thought that the end of the world is nigh.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    inert, We should be so lucky that a volcano erupted in Milwaukee...but the blame would be on Trump.
    , @Federalist
    Too bad it wasn't a volcano. At least people can just move away from a volcano.
    , @SteveRogers42
    It's always the passive voice: "Violence erupts", "the gun went off", "mistakes were made." Just some amorphous third-party agency that reduces us all to mere victims of inexorable fate.
  71. @Kylie
    Historic flooding in Louisiana claims 3 lives. It's not yet known if any of the 3 was black so Trump is not yet being blamed.

    It’s much worse than you’d know from the current reporting.

    Things went to hell last night while people were asleep. It’s still getting worse.

    Can confirm that Trump is in fact to blame, though.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    I'm sure the flooding is worse than reported but I think I can imagine how bad it is. I was living on a creek bank with a broken leg during the Flood of 1993. A friend came and got me to higher ground. I live in a river town now and we've had flooding all but one of the last eight years.

    Most people have no idea how dangerous flood waters are. When my husband and I were house hunting, a house on a hill was one of my few requirements.

  72. It doesn’t seem that BLM as an organization had anything to do with this riot — just the irrational anger they have stirred up.

    As I had said in an earlier comment, my guess is that BLM as an organization is under strict orders not to create scenes embarrassing for The Once and Future Queen.

  73. @SFG
    I wonder how many of those are closeted Trump voters. I expect him to see a surprise jump in the polls on Election Day.

    Enough to save him, I don't know.

    Yeah, I do wonder how large the Shy “Worse than a Nazi!!” vote might be in this election.

    Probably bigger than it’s ever been.

    • Replies: @Lot
    There is no consistent partisan bias in US polling. In the UK, however, there has for decades been an anti-Tory bias in polling. The polling miss for Brexit was 6 points, predicting a 2 point loss when it won by 4 points. A miss that large is typical in the UK, very rare in the USA.

    For this election, I think Trump will likely outperform the polls by about 2%.

    He is not building a large turnout operation the way every major party candidate on both sides has for decades. For this reason I also would not be surprised if he does worse than the polling.

    Partly offsetting this is the fact there are well-funded Republican Senators running for reelection in a lot of swing states who are working to boost turnout.

    Yet another unknown factor are all the voter ID laws and various other efforts by state republicans parties to make it harder for poor and young people to vote. We do not even know right now which ones will apply. North Carolina and Texas look like they won't be able to enforce new voter ID laws. Wisconsin's also looked like it would be blocked in court, but the state GOP got lucky and on appeal was assigned to a three-conservative 7th Circuit panel which unblocked it.

    We also got lucky that the Virginia Supreme Court voted 4-3 to block the attempt by democrats to restore the vote to 206,000 felons. Assume that 30% of them vote and go 75-25 for Hillary, and that is a net gain of 31,000 votes. That is worth about 0.8% of the total presidential election vote in the state.
  74. @Jefferson
    Wisconsin German voters are still going to help Hildabeast win that state in November. Germans dislike Negro riots, but Germans dislike Donald Trump way more.

    I’m afraid you’re right. There’s an old joke-saying in Milwaukee which goes something like this: (add European accent) “My great-grandaddy voted Democrat, my granddaddy voted Democrat, my daddy voted Democrat and I’M voting Democrat”.

    And – joy of joys – I live three minutes from the scene of Milwaukee’s terrorism last night.

    • Replies: @wren
    Yikes!

    I hope no one breaks your window and beats your ass.

    This sounds like a genuine nightmare.

    http://www.infowars.com/video-black-lives-matter-rioters-target-whites-for-beat-downs/
    , @SteveRogers42
    Sight picture. Breath control. Press.
  75. @unit472
    I think the Governor has to call out the National Guard but you are right. I was around in Berkeley circa 1970 and the National Guard often supplemented the Alameda Deputy Sheriff "Blue Meanies" in subduing the riff raff on Telegraph Ave. Of course Reagan was the Governor and UC presidents and regents still thought they should run the University not the mob.

    Mind you the 'riots' were then over a ridiculous controversy about a 'People's Park', a piece of land the University owned and wanted to build on and which was 'occupied' by protesters. There was never any looting or burning of cars that I can recall. Hippies would mass on Telegraph and toss rocks and bottles at the cops who would periodically charge and beat up the slowest hippies.

    I live in Berserkeley not far from People’s Park and 45+ years later it’s still a pit full of human pathology. Less riff-raff right on Telegraph these days but the homeless population underneath freeway overpasses in the East Bay has exploded in the past year.

    • Replies: @Kyle
    Housing is unaffordable. Rent is unaffordable. Corporate workers, academics, goverment workers, business owners, and the "non-working" classes can all "afford" (even if its at an unsustainable price) housing because capitol is is going from the banks directly to them. And housing is #1 on their payment priority.
    The people of the secondary economy, the working class, the people who work for wages and salary, those people can not afford housing.
    http://la.curbed.com/2015/12/10/9892338/los-angeles-rent-burden-most-unaffordable
    This article is saying that 58% of renters in LA are spending more than 30% of their income on rent. I think you could extrapolate that to the rest of the country in aggregate.
    You could make the argument that the creators of wealth are smarter and more talented than the working class and thus they deserve the flow of capitol, which is absolutely true. But I counter that with the fact that something is fundamentally wrong with the economy. Something is fundamentally wrong when the working class is spending so much on housing that they can't create savings. What is the solution to just let the working class die off, or wither into atrophy? What are the moral implications of allowing that while preserving the privaledged "non-working" classes and various goverment classes.
  76. OT, but one of our Overlords has finally come out and said it:

    I just hate Democracy so so much!

    If I could go back in time and undo Democracy? I would.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    But that's not actually democracy, is it?

    The people apparently have no say and/or what they say is dismissed with contempt by the elites.

    But yes, whatever this is, I hate it, too.

    The boats.
    , @fnn

    German President Booed, Attacked; Claims "The People Are The Problem, Not The Elites"
     
    I wonder if he's familiar with the famous (at least in these circles) Bertolt Brecht quote?
    , @eah
    Thanks -- that's a great video of Gauck, who announced a couple of months ago that he would not seek a second term as Bundespräsident, which is a largely ceremonial office, perfect for a useless 'virtue signaler' like him -- as a declaration of contempt for common people, and popular democracy, it does not get plainer than that.

    At the ZH link, there is also this from Peggy Noonan in the WSJ:

    The larger point is that this is something we are seeing all over, the top detaching itself from the bottom, feeling little loyalty to it or affiliation with it.

    It is a theme I see working its way throughout the West’s power centers.

    At its heart it is not only a detachment from, but a lack of interest in, the lives of your countrymen, of those who are not at the table, and who understand that they’ve been abandoned by their leaders’ selfishness and mad virtue-signalling.

    , @Seran
    Gauck was a privileged pastor in east germany, who is now bashing the GDR. He was allowed to drive a VW and his sons could travel to west germany. He is the ultimate opportunist.

    Not the elite or the politicians are traitors, the people is the traitor and should punished accordingly.

    #Lügenvolk
    , @ben tillman

    I just hate Democracy so so much!

    If I could go back in time and undo Democracy? I would.
     
    We don't have democracy, as your comment demonstrates.
    , @anon

    I just hate Democracy so so much! If I could go back in time and undo Democracy? I would.
     
    We live in a corrupted democracy aka a disguised oligarchy where the oligarchs own and use the media and politicians to get their way indirectly.

    The Bladerunner future we're headed into where the oligarchs can do what they like directly without having to bother with the democratic facade will be much worse.

    All human institutions will eventually be corrupted by free riders creating a cycle or Kyklos as the ancient Greeks called it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyklos
  77. My dad grew up in that exact same Milwaukee neighborhood in the 1940s. He described it as a Leave It To Beaver type utopia. One of his good boyhood friends was Gene Wilder who lived down the street. I remember in 1976 my dad took me for a drive to his old neighborhood and it was already a total ghetto by then. I remember he made sure the car doors were locked.

  78. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Ed
    Trump is so mean though that nice white ladies are just too offended to vote for him.

    I'm so over it now. Let the country burn it would serve us right.

    Trump is so mean though that nice white ladies are just too offended to vote for him.

    I’m so over it now. Let the country burn it would serve us right.

    Yeah, maybe nuclear war might be the answer. Like hitting reset on this sorry-ass situation. Maybe Hillary is genius and this is what she meant by “hitting the reset button” (wink, wink) with Russia.

  79. @candid_observer
    According to the link, this is the event that fomented the riot:

    One of the men was carrying a stolen semiautomatic handgun, and a Milwaukee officer shot him during the foot chase, according to police. The officer ordered him to drop the gun but hit him in the chest and the arm when he didn't, cops said.
     
    What kind of justice do you have to believe in to think that this is something so outrageous you should riot?

    A policeman now isn't allowed to shoot someone who is running away holding a gun, is told to drop it, but refuses to do so?

    These people aren't normal. BLM is making them worse.

    “These people aren’t normal.”

    When I interviewed five middle-eastern cabbies about blacks in Berkeley, one said, “there’s something wrong with those people.”

  80. OT: the only son of the late crack-smoking D.C. mayor Marion Berry died of a drug overdose last night.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/2016/08/14/295b5b7c-621d-11e6-be4e-23fc4d4d12b4_story.html?hpid=hp_local-news_barry-920a%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

  81. @yowza
    Not doing anything will only make it the norm, as it has now become thanks to Obama and Eric Holder's sociopath ways. Now they're doing it whenever they feel like it. They all think they're in a Quintin Tarantino movie.

    Bringing in the National Guard, give fair warning, and letting them shoot at will until the streets are clear would bring better long-term results.

    Politically, the National Guard will always be far more popular than domestic black terrorists.

    The point about Quintin Tarantino is a good one. We’ve had decades now of race revenge porn movies where whitey finally gets what’s coming to him. Blacks eat that shit up and are ready to be their own heroes in getting revenge. No different than some Hamas propaganda summer camp.

  82. @candid_observer
    OT, but one of our Overlords has finally come out and said it:

    https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/764550001888530433

    I just hate Democracy so so much!

    If I could go back in time and undo Democracy? I would.

    But that’s not actually democracy, is it?

    The people apparently have no say and/or what they say is dismissed with contempt by the elites.

    But yes, whatever this is, I hate it, too.

    The boats.

    • Replies: @candid_observer
    I think you may have failed to see my invisible sarc tag.
  83. @Kylie
    But that's not actually democracy, is it?

    The people apparently have no say and/or what they say is dismissed with contempt by the elites.

    But yes, whatever this is, I hate it, too.

    The boats.

    I think you may have failed to see my invisible sarc tag.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    I think I must have missed it.

    I'm totally confused (and way too literal-minded). Nothing new there.

  84. OT, a headline at BreitBart:

    “World’s Largest Rodents Take Over Rio’s Olympic Golf Course”

    http://www.breitbart.com/sports/2016/08/13/new-golf-hazard-rios-olympic-golf-course-taken-worlds-largest-rodents/

    My first thought: it’s Media Day at the Olympic golf course?

    • Replies: @yowza

    “World’s Largest Rodents Take Over Rio’s Olympic Golf Course”

    http://www.breitbart.com/sports/2016/08/13/new-golf-hazard-rios-olympic-golf-course-taken-worlds-largest-rodents/

    My first thought: it’s Media Day at the Olympic golf course?
     
    When you see relatively exotic animals intermingling with modern society, it means the animal's habitat getting raped hard. It's never "cute" to me to see a video of a toucan pecking on a hotel occupants back porch door, a koala bear sitting on a kid's backyard swing, or monkeys chasing someone across a bridge. It means their days are marked and numbered.

    It's also why, for purely practical purposes, I'm the biggest international war and domestic upheaval fan I know. I'm LOVING the Milwaukee riots. I hope they spread across this great land for weeks. I want dead black body piles piling up like in Dresden in 1945.

    Nothing gives me heart like a multiple MOAB's being dropped on scattering sandy-brained muslims. The Rwandan genocide was like xmas to me. I LOVED that movie about it, "hotel rwanda." Indeed! All of 'em playing "marco polo" with machetes. Those little Toyota Pathfinders bumping along in the fog like they have flat tires, it turns out the roads have some new African speed bumps made up of... Africans!! Not just a few! Tons of 'em! How fricking cool is that?

    I haven't watched a Friday the 13th movie since. It's amateur and boring compared to our willful inky heroes currently presiding over the Unintentionally Comedic Dark Continent.

    Anyway, the reason our forefather's enjoyed their quality of life, such as it was, was because wars kept population in check, to a degree. We don't have those massive purges these days, so we're about to smother in our own thirsty stink. The population growth of Africa is unsustainable. Soon, they will become existential Kamikazes. Once African idiots figure out how to make a profit, you'll see large pirated ships full of Africans beaching themselves on the shores of Brazil, it's human cargo spewing into the jungle trails, as these angry, desperate Congolese, Somalians, etc. slash their way to America.

    Ya'll think illiterate blacks from Milwaukee are a frightening? Try an semi-retired Congolese warlord and his cross-dressing soldier boys. You'll think of DaShaun running towards your car with a brick as "the good old days."

    Me? You can bet I'll be watching this with a big bag of buttered popcorn, and a craft beer, from New Zealand.
    My blessed, out-of-the-way retirement home, where my little well-paid live-in filipino girl(s) can pat my back when I have to spit up.

    For those of you without the means... sucks to be you, I guess. America was a good idea, but only, as B Franklin said, "if you can keep it." That's... not happening.
  85. In another Olympic spectator sport: http://on.wsj.com/2bqxtju

    Gold Medalist Ryan Lochte, 3 Other U.S. Swimmers Robbed at Gunpoint

    Taxi carrying the 4 was stopped by thieves posing as police, USOC says

  86. @candid_observer
    I think you may have failed to see my invisible sarc tag.

    I think I must have missed it.

    I’m totally confused (and way too literal-minded). Nothing new there.

    • Replies: @TontoBubbaGoldstein
    Don't feel like the Lone Ranger, Chief.
  87. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:
  88. @Ed
    Trump is so mean though that nice white ladies are just too offended to vote for him.

    I'm so over it now. Let the country burn it would serve us right.

    Yes just got off the phone with a generally moderate gun owning friend who will vote for Clinton. He married a Columbian woman and thinks Trump is anti-Latino. Its over, nobody will vote for civilization.

    • Replies: @yowza

    Yes just got off the phone with a generally moderate gun owning friend who will vote for Clinton. He married a Columbian woman and thinks Trump is anti-Latino. Its over, nobody will vote for civilization.
     
    I recently spoke with my WASP aunt, and her Latino husband. He's been for Trump since the get-go. She just said she's switching from Hillary, voting for Trump, so your votes are nullified. And boy, did she not like Trump for a long time.

    I felt like Victor Lazlo in "Casablanca"!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDm3qr3Zlu0
  89. Some Trump links for Sailer fans

    Spengler/Goldman sounding Saileresque on Trump and foreign policy

    http://atimes.com/2016/08/trump-lacks-experience-but-his-detractors-lack-common-sense/

    The Trumpian+ President of the Phillipines is inching towards full scale rebellion against the U.S. empire (not a good idea IMO, better for small countries to bob, weave and bribe like Israel, but eventually someone wil do this and win)

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/13/philippines-rodrigo-duterte-not-sorry-for-calling-us-envoy-a-gay-son-of-a-whore

    • Replies: @TontoBubbaGoldstein
    I'm confident that the US government is already funding and arming Islamic anti-Duterte groups.

    We've got this.
  90. @Chrisnonymous
    If he was running away, it's possibly a bad shoot. I can't justify in my mind shooting at the torso or head of someone with their back turned who's trying to escape from me. On the other hand, if he was hit in the chest, I doubt he was fleeing.

    Either way, the rioting isn't justified.

    “he was hit in the chest, I doubt he was fleeing.”

    Maybe he was running backwards? Or maybe “moonwalking”, like Michael Jackson.

  91. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “German President Booed, Attacked; Claims “The People Are The Problem, Not The Elites” https://t.co/YgvOsDQkjt

    — zerohedge (@zerohedge) August 13, 2016

    ‘German President Booed, Attacked; Claims “The People Are The Problem, Not The Elites”‘, Zero Hedge, Tyler Durden, Aug 13, 2016:

    “…German President Joachim Gauck was booed and attacked in the streets of Sebnitz, Saxony after he blurted out the following unbelievbable statement:

    “The elites are not the problem, the people are the problem.”

    …Official German State TV and State Radio reported that “a handful of right wing extremists” have attacked the president and disturbed the otherwise peaceful and welcoming reception of the President. This is simply not the case, as seen in the video…

    …the German Justice Minister, called the attackers “cowards who insult the president because of their personal frustration”. He himself was booed off the stage as a traitor by hundreds of Germans at the annual Labor Day celebration on the 1st of May. He said that they will be persecuted immediately, as “it cannot be allowed that such a tiny minority has influence on the political climate in Germany”…”

    Also:

    “…Germany has raided its healthcare funds to support the refugee crisis…”

  92. And speaking of headlines, This was a NY Times headline on the Milwaukee, uh, situation, just moments ago:

    Unrest After Police Fatally Shoot Unarmed Man

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/14/us/violent-crowd-confronts-police-in-milwaukee-after-fatal-shooting.html

    Yes, the headline said that the man was unarmed (I have a screenshot).

    Presumably, that headline was ditched, but on the article itself the headline is now:

    National Guard Deployed in Milwaukee Amid Unrest Over Fatal Police Shooting

    “Unrest”?

    I find that, for myself, a cup of hot milk does the trick pretty well when I suffer from unrest. I hope somebody offers this suggestion to the poor people of Milwaukee who are having such a bad time.

  93. @Kylie
    Historic flooding in Louisiana claims 3 lives. It's not yet known if any of the 3 was black so Trump is not yet being blamed.

    I blame GWB.

    • LOL: Kylie
  94. For comparison’s sake, here’s the Daily Kos’ headline on this event:

    “Unrest in Milwaukee after man is killed by the police”

    http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/8/14/1560034/-Unrest-in-Milwaukee-after-man-is-killed-by-the-police

  95. @Chrisnonymous
    If he was running away, it's possibly a bad shoot. I can't justify in my mind shooting at the torso or head of someone with their back turned who's trying to escape from me. On the other hand, if he was hit in the chest, I doubt he was fleeing.

    Either way, the rioting isn't justified.

    If he was shot in the chest while fleeing, he must have been running backwards, greatly slowing him down.

    The guy was probably killed because he was a black man too impoverished and disadvantaged to afford fleeing lessons. A white man would have had them and the police would never have managed to shoot him.

  96. @Curle
    Lots of Alpha males at a riot. With all that testosterone at peak flow who knows what other desirable things might happen next. Women get worked up over sports injuries too.

    Your comment made me think about Field day when I was in the 9th grade. During the race the quarterback of our JV football team, fell down hurt his ankle or something . About 10 girls rushed out to the track in a frenzy, it was the weirdest thing.

  97. The reasoning of the black underclass.

    • Replies: @Danindc
    Cuck Cuckerson reporting live on the scene....
    , @Curle
    Not just the black underclass, did you read the comments of the poster, one Sarah Nyberg, whom by her last name certainly sounds European by descent? This lady does the following math:
    1) death of fleeing black suspect carrying weapon; 2) this occurs in open carry state; 3) therefore the death must be murder by racism. No mention of ignored orders to drop the weapon which I gather is irrelevant to her worldview.
    , @Moshe
    Maybe I speak to a more diverse group of people than you do but I hear worse than this 5-10 times a week.

    Heck, just yesterday I spoke to a group of nine African Israelites who are planning (good luck) to enslave Whites.

    There are numerous ways that people get there but I often hear worse than this from White People and almost daily from Black People - and Hispanics Who Think They're Black (Hispanics Who Think They're WhiteBy on the other hand are as reasonable about this issue as Yemenite Deli Owners).

  98. @Jefferson
    "Trump is so mean though that nice white ladies are just too offended to vote for him."

    Plenty of White men are also too offended to vote for Donald Trump. Hildabeast has support from 34 percent of White males with a college degree and 25 percent of White males without a college degree.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-polls-2016-8

    Most Americans personally know at least 1 White male who plans to vote for Hildabeast.

    Most Americans do not personally know a single Nonwhite person who plans to vote for Donald Trump.

    I have a cousin who is a White male who plans to vote for Hildabeast. He is a high school social studies teacher.

    I’m a HS Social Studies teacher, and I will NOT be voting for HILTRON, (Even though I live in a state that HILTRON should win easily. Most of my colleagues, male and female, will be voting for her.

  99. @Kylie
    I think I must have missed it.

    I'm totally confused (and way too literal-minded). Nothing new there.

    Don’t feel like the Lone Ranger, Chief.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    "Don’t feel like the Lone Ranger, Chief."

    Thanks but not to worry.

    Actually, I feel more like Silver's hindquarters.
  100. @candid_observer
    OT, a headline at BreitBart:

    "World’s Largest Rodents Take Over Rio’s Olympic Golf Course"

    http://www.breitbart.com/sports/2016/08/13/new-golf-hazard-rios-olympic-golf-course-taken-worlds-largest-rodents/

    My first thought: it's Media Day at the Olympic golf course?

    “World’s Largest Rodents Take Over Rio’s Olympic Golf Course”

    http://www.breitbart.com/sports/2016/08/13/new-golf-hazard-rios-olympic-golf-course-taken-worlds-largest-rodents/

    My first thought: it’s Media Day at the Olympic golf course?

    When you see relatively exotic animals intermingling with modern society, it means the animal’s habitat getting raped hard. It’s never “cute” to me to see a video of a toucan pecking on a hotel occupants back porch door, a koala bear sitting on a kid’s backyard swing, or monkeys chasing someone across a bridge. It means their days are marked and numbered.

    It’s also why, for purely practical purposes, I’m the biggest international war and domestic upheaval fan I know. I’m LOVING the Milwaukee riots. I hope they spread across this great land for weeks. I want dead black body piles piling up like in Dresden in 1945.

    Nothing gives me heart like a multiple MOAB’s being dropped on scattering sandy-brained muslims. The Rwandan genocide was like xmas to me. I LOVED that movie about it, “hotel rwanda.” Indeed! All of ‘em playing “marco polo” with machetes. Those little Toyota Pathfinders bumping along in the fog like they have flat tires, it turns out the roads have some new African speed bumps made up of… Africans!! Not just a few! Tons of ‘em! How fricking cool is that?

    I haven’t watched a Friday the 13th movie since. It’s amateur and boring compared to our willful inky heroes currently presiding over the Unintentionally Comedic Dark Continent.

    Anyway, the reason our forefather’s enjoyed their quality of life, such as it was, was because wars kept population in check, to a degree. We don’t have those massive purges these days, so we’re about to smother in our own thirsty stink. The population growth of Africa is unsustainable. Soon, they will become existential Kamikazes. Once African idiots figure out how to make a profit, you’ll see large pirated ships full of Africans beaching themselves on the shores of Brazil, it’s human cargo spewing into the jungle trails, as these angry, desperate Congolese, Somalians, etc. slash their way to America.

    Ya’ll think illiterate blacks from Milwaukee are a frightening? Try an semi-retired Congolese warlord and his cross-dressing soldier boys. You’ll think of DaShaun running towards your car with a brick as “the good old days.”

    Me? You can bet I’ll be watching this with a big bag of buttered popcorn, and a craft beer, from New Zealand.
    My blessed, out-of-the-way retirement home, where my little well-paid live-in filipino girl(s) can pat my back when I have to spit up.

    For those of you without the means… sucks to be you, I guess. America was a good idea, but only, as B Franklin said, “if you can keep it.” That’s… not happening.

  101. @Jefferson
    "Trump is so mean though that nice white ladies are just too offended to vote for him."

    Plenty of White men are also too offended to vote for Donald Trump. Hildabeast has support from 34 percent of White males with a college degree and 25 percent of White males without a college degree.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-polls-2016-8

    Most Americans personally know at least 1 White male who plans to vote for Hildabeast.

    Most Americans do not personally know a single Nonwhite person who plans to vote for Donald Trump.

    I have a cousin who is a White male who plans to vote for Hildabeast. He is a high school social studies teacher.

    Burying the Lead — the link to Business Insider points that White Women WITH a College Degree support Hillary by 57% to Trump’s 27%. Romney carried that demo in 2012 by six points, according to BI. Moreover Trump leads among College White men by 21 points, White men without by 31 points, and White women without College by 20 points.

    Trump trails in White women with a College degree by 30 points. That is a swing of 51 points. Between White Men and Women with College degrees. Yes some White men with College degrees support Clinton (or so they say). Scott Adams “endorsed” Clinton — for his own safety. I imagine any White male (since I was once in education I am familiar with its toxic female-dominated PC culture) in Education would be formally “for” Hillary Clinton for his career. Same with government employees, media, etc. which are all heavily female-dominated.

    I’ve taken a lot of heat for pointing out the truth — White women with College degrees have vastly different and mutually exclusive political and social interests from White men, with or without College degrees. While College degrees do decrease Trump support among White men, for White women the effect is catastrophic.

    Trump simply will not win without cutting into Clinton’s lead among White women with College — he will never get a majority but “losing” to Clinton by say ten points gives him victory. Since his success depends on Blue Collar White male turnout as much as margin.

    Taking riots that **VICTIMIZE** White women and acting as the “bad, dangerous protector” ala Tony Soprano, Walter White, and other bad-good heroes on TV is the way to cut Hillary’s lead among the “I can’t even, wow just wow” White female professional class. Hillary has a huge lead because the media defined Trump as socially unacceptable — and that will *NEVER* change. He “defied” a Pakistani Muslim who chided him and the social mores have White men at the bottom having to cringe and bend knees whenever some non-White acts up. [Since it offers an opportunity for Professional White women to move up one notch when the defenestration begins.]

    Trump seems clueless in understanding this, and must pose as the only one “bad enough” to protect Professional White women to cut Hillary’s lead — that hits primal things in women’s responses that cuts through social mores and “acceptability” and the caste system.

    Trump has to make White Professional women fear that their head will be bashed in, not by the ex-husbands of the female writers on Law and Orderen, all banker lawyer White male executives, as Steve has noted many times, but Sons of Obama. And he needs to make them feel that only he is bad and dangerous enough to crack down on the Sons of Obama.

    Hillary’s one weakness is her pandering to BLM and Muslim jihadis. No one not even White Professional women trusts her in going after those groups. Trump will never win this demo but he can get enough to see a path to victory.

    Putting White Professional women on a pedestal, being Mitt Romney “nice” and refusing to see the problem clearly and come up with a workable solution is a path to certain, massive defeat and President for Life Hillary Clinton.

  102. @yowza
    Not doing anything will only make it the norm, as it has now become thanks to Obama and Eric Holder's sociopath ways. Now they're doing it whenever they feel like it. They all think they're in a Quintin Tarantino movie.

    Bringing in the National Guard, give fair warning, and letting them shoot at will until the streets are clear would bring better long-term results.

    Politically, the National Guard will always be far more popular than domestic black terrorists.

    I remember Buchanan suggesting this week in the early days 1990s

  103. @Gabriel M
    Some Trump links for Sailer fans

    Spengler/Goldman sounding Saileresque on Trump and foreign policy
    http://atimes.com/2016/08/trump-lacks-experience-but-his-detractors-lack-common-sense/

    The Trumpian+ President of the Phillipines is inching towards full scale rebellion against the U.S. empire (not a good idea IMO, better for small countries to bob, weave and bribe like Israel, but eventually someone wil do this and win)
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/13/philippines-rodrigo-duterte-not-sorry-for-calling-us-envoy-a-gay-son-of-a-whore

    I’m confident that the US government is already funding and arming Islamic anti-Duterte groups.

    We’ve got this.

  104. I’m guessing dispersing rioters with sound trucks playing classical music would be denounced as raaaaacist ….

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    I’m guessing dispersing rioters with sound trucks playing classical music would be denounced as raaaaacist ….
     
    Maybe drones which can project holographic images of SWAT officers with assault weapons trained on them followed by 140-160 decibel percussive sounds and flashes.

    Or set up fenced area and project some white guys inside attracting the predators and then locking them in. Like a giant Havahart trap.
  105. @TontoBubbaGoldstein
    Don't feel like the Lone Ranger, Chief.

    “Don’t feel like the Lone Ranger, Chief.”

    Thanks but not to worry.

    Actually, I feel more like Silver’s hindquarters.

  106. Regarding Germany, if Angela Merkel deliberately wanted to create a race war against Muslims and such, she could not have done a better job.

    Historically Germany before unification had most of its population trying to flee when they could, because most German states outside of Prussia were corrupt, inept, and predatory. Germans before Bismarck were ruled by people who would be familiar in actions and results to most Mexicans. Or Venezuelans. Draft evasion was common, almost every official demanded bribes, wars were frequent, ruinous, and often killed lots of draftees. Government was demanding, grasping, and essentially one giant protection scheme without any actual real protection. And this was Germany essentially after Charlemagne.

    *TAKING THE HEALTH MONEY* to fund refugees is going to leave Germans who don’t have much savings (since the state is a heavy taxation burden) without any health care or social welfare. Sure there are more military age men with low IQs and experience herding goats and camels in Germany, but Germans are very, very good at making horrific killing machines, as the former residents of Sevastapol, St. Petersberg, Coventry, and Stalingrad. It won’t happen tomorrow. But it will happen.

    Essentially it will be a war to annihilate Muslims to save health care money and the old age pension. With the government as the enemy of every native German. A situation entirely avoidable if Merkel had just tamped down the tingles and acted sensibly. Any sensible 19th Century Monarch or Prime Minister would have known this, as would Ike, Churchill, De Gaulle, Franco, Lee Kwan Yew, and FDR — democrats and dictators alike who could foresee the entirely foreseeable.

    What? Germans are just going to peaceably see themselves die of sickness and starvation in old age because Merkel has the tingles for louche young Muslim goatherders?

  107. Fun exercise: try to find anything about this on the NYT front page. You have to search for “mil,” and it’s many stories down under the headline “Governor Activates National Guard After Police Shooting.”

  108. Some commenters, I don’t remember if it was on Breitbart or even Infowars, goes into conspiracy theories territory saying then they started that riot just as Wikileaks and Guccifer released some leaked infos about Hillary, Nancy Pelosi and George Soros. But that’s another story. ;-)

    Contenance Blog posted a good rant about the Milwaukee riots. https://countenance.wordpress.com/2016/08/13/your-turn-3/

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "Some commenters, I don’t remember if it was on Breitbart or even Infowars, goes into conspiracy theories territory saying then they started that riot just as Wikileaks and Guccifer released some leaked infos about Hillary, Nancy Pelosi and George Soros. But that’s another story. ;-)"

    In Alex Jones voice "DON'T EVER FORGET THE GULF OF TONKIN."
    , @Anonym
    It's pretty reasonable - Soros funds the BLM movement. Soros leaks come out. BLM has riot in Milwaukee. Discussion about it on the_donald.

    https://m.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/4xp41z/milwaukee_riots_being_censored_across_reddit_get/
  109. @ic1000
    The current headline at the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel is Violence erupts after officer-involved shooting.

    Here's the start of the article, which I have edited has gotten edited to better conform to the spirit of the paper's "stuff happens" style.


    A standoff between police and an angry crowd turned violent Saturday night in the hours after a Milwaukee police officer shot and killed an armed suspect got shot and killed during a foot chase on the city's north side.

    After an hours-long confrontation with officers, police it was reported at 10:15 p.m. that a gas station at N. Sherman Blvd. and W. Burleigh St. was set on fire. Police said firefighters could not for a time get close It was said that closeness could not be gotten to the blaze because of gunshots.

    Later, fires were started at businesses — including a BMO Harris Bank branch, a beauty supply company and O'Reilly Auto Parts stores — near N. 35th and W. Burleigh streets, it was said grimly and emphatically by a grim and emphatic Mayor Tom Barrett said. He spoke The speech happened at a midnight news conference at the District 3 police station at N. 49th St. and W. Lisbon Ave.

    He and Common Council President Ashanti Hamilton pleaded There was pleading with the public for calm. Barrett promised a A strong police presence in coming days was promised.
     

    You’re using the passive voice to protect the WRONG FOLKS!

  110. Notice these violent riots always happen in northern and Midwestern cities? I mean, there were protests in Baton Rouge and a lot of verbal abuse towards police in riot fear but nothing was burned down, and no random white people were attacked in their cars. This footage is nuts.

    The deep South has way more blacks and more racial tension than people think, yet no riots on this scale in recent memory.

    Half of the racial problems in the country could be solved by a little more swagger from whites. Midwesterners have to stop being so nice. They are like the nice white lady teacher who can’t control her class.

    If suburban whites just start acting like rednecks and the tough ethnic whites in the Northeast, we don’t even have to do anything to improve the country, other than deporting illegals with a rap sheet and reducing legal immigration for the next decade or so. A somewhat multiracial society is not that big of a deal if you have the will to stay on top and keep things under control.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    That's because the whites in the south are armed to the teeth (and packing) and the Dindus know it. Only the GoodWhites put up with this sheiss.

    Nobody has tried anything since Pamella Gellar's Draw Mohammed contest ended badly for the perps; the group reportedly had an undercover FBI agent as a member.
  111. @Arclight
    The boredom and disregard for law an order used to mostly confine itself to black on black crime with occasional instances of "wilding" but BLM and the media have given urban blacks the green light to lash out at symbols identified with whites. We are entering a new era in which race-motivated destruction of property and violence is characterized as a justified reaction by the group least likely to adhere to cultural norms that produce relative social stability.

    I am not sure how President Hilary will deal with all this - on the one hand, she has to mouth the obligatory slogans about systemic injustices and so on. However, she has never seemed to be someone who really cares about blacks or their issues and is just going through the motions in her pandering - to the point of absurdity like her comment on black radio that she carries hot sauce in her purse. She seems to be law and order in her mentality and more likely to emphasize the need to restore basic public safety rather than take the Obama approach of tacitly legitimizing BLM.

    She is headed towards a blowout election and won't owe blacks for it the way she might have if it were close.

    This is as cynical as I can make myself go, but I honestly wonder if in her presidency she’ll let one or two Fergusons go on for political symbolism and venting out: clamp down if anything significant breaks out in DCs and San Francisco-level places, but let a politically unimportant nowheresville like Dayton Ohio roast for a few days.

    • Replies: @Arclight
    You can never be too cynical when the Clintons are involved...however, my hope/feeling is that she recognizes that Obama has been highly divisive and whereas he is/was content to govern this way, it's because his status as the first black president gives him a lot of leeway from the political class and historians that she won't get...so her path requires some co-option of the political right and people who didn't vote for her so she contrasts herself against Obama as more of a consensus politician when it comes to her achievements.

    To do this, she will have to give lip service to BLM but nothing concrete - that is reserved for the law and order whites she will need for re-election when she faces someone other than the flaming train wreck that is Trump. She cannot afford to let the public at large feel crime and violence are on the rise and not do something about it.
    , @Jefferson
    "This is as cynical as I can make myself go, but I honestly wonder if in her presidency she’ll let one or two Fergusons go on for political symbolism and venting out: clamp down if anything significant breaks out in DCs and San Francisco-level places, but let a politically unimportant nowheresville like Dayton Ohio roast for a few days."

    A Milwaukee type racial riot could never occur in San Francisco because this city is now down to only 5 percent Black, a historic low for this city.
    http://www.city-data.com/city/San-Francisco-California.html

    You are mistaking San Francisco for Oakland, where Blacks are the racial plurality.

    Milwaukee type racial riots are a common occurrence in Oakland.

    The only way I could see San Francisco getting Milwaukee style racial riots is if the Mexicans/Central Americans here start behaving like African Americans everytime one of their own is killed by a police officer.
  112. @WorkingClass
    Don't know what happened to the Cheese Heads. They seem to be united in their desire to be governed by the Cock Brothers.

    Cuck brothers?

  113. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @The Only Catholic Unionist
    I'm guessing dispersing rioters with sound trucks playing classical music would be denounced as raaaaacist ....

    I’m guessing dispersing rioters with sound trucks playing classical music would be denounced as raaaaacist ….

    Maybe drones which can project holographic images of SWAT officers with assault weapons trained on them followed by 140-160 decibel percussive sounds and flashes.

    Or set up fenced area and project some white guys inside attracting the predators and then locking them in. Like a giant Havahart trap.

  114. @iSteveFan
    He can do that because anytime people on that side of the divide do bad things their backers never have to explain, disavow or worry that they might be held accountable.

    Trump received more scrutiny and blowback for receiving the unsolicited endorsement of David Duke than Hillary or Obama will receive for their minions destroying a city.

    Or could Obama be turning into David Denkins before our eyes with Donald turning into Rudy……. All played out on the larger National stage?

    Hilliary as Denkins 2nd Term.

    A winning reframe that actually is true.

    • Agree: Forbes
  115. @Anoni
    Yes just got off the phone with a generally moderate gun owning friend who will vote for Clinton. He married a Columbian woman and thinks Trump is anti-Latino. Its over, nobody will vote for civilization.

    Yes just got off the phone with a generally moderate gun owning friend who will vote for Clinton. He married a Columbian woman and thinks Trump is anti-Latino. Its over, nobody will vote for civilization.

    I recently spoke with my WASP aunt, and her Latino husband. He’s been for Trump since the get-go. She just said she’s switching from Hillary, voting for Trump, so your votes are nullified. And boy, did she not like Trump for a long time.

    I felt like Victor Lazlo in “Casablanca”!

  116. @Jefferson
    "Trump is so mean though that nice white ladies are just too offended to vote for him."

    Plenty of White men are also too offended to vote for Donald Trump. Hildabeast has support from 34 percent of White males with a college degree and 25 percent of White males without a college degree.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-polls-2016-8

    Most Americans personally know at least 1 White male who plans to vote for Hildabeast.

    Most Americans do not personally know a single Nonwhite person who plans to vote for Donald Trump.

    I have a cousin who is a White male who plans to vote for Hildabeast. He is a high school social studies teacher.

    I’m a white (mostly) male voting for Hillary. If the GOP had nominated someone less repugnant than Trump or Cruz I would have voted GOP

    Status quo isn’t so bad for me

    • Replies: @rod1963
    You mean a globalist who supports open borders.

    You know it's really amusing, Trump talks like most New Yorkers or Jersey guys, direct and no bullshit. Yet many many, especially educated ones get the vapors over such talk.

    Really tells me a lot of white men have put their cajones in a lock box and buried them.

    , @Grumpy
    How long will the status quo last if Hillary makes appointments to the Supreme Court?
    , @eah
    https://twitter.com/ramzpaul/status/758300946497572864
    , @HEL

    I’m a white (mostly) male voting for Hillary
     
    .

    Mostly male? Which way are you transitioning, to male or from male?
    , @Broski

    Status quo isn’t so bad for me
     
    It's not so bad for most of us. We're just not totally self-centered and care about our less fortunate countrymen.
    , @Forbes

    Status quo isn’t so bad for me
     
    So how's the weekend release program working out for you...
  117. @Inquiring Mind

    Black Lives Matter should be officially regarded as a black cult.
     
    On the subject of cults, any insights into the persons standing in pedestrian "islands" of major streets holding up "Homeless, please help" signs?

    Not only have I noticed that every street corner of the major intersections features one of these Sign People, but our Radical Mayor-for-Life of Wisconsin's People's Republic (just up I-94 from Milwaukee) is "noticing" the same thing. Turns out that the People's Republic had an anti-panhandling ordinance that was struck down by a Federal judge (there is no professional courtesy among SJW's?). This was 3 months ago, and since then, these Sign People seem to have appeared out of nowhere to stand vigil in intersections.

    Radical Mayor is not just noticing, he is spitting pins over this, or at least he is showing as much agitation as an aging Radical from the 60's with the low-energy affect of a chronic heart condition is able to muster. He is lobbying his City Council to pass a broader replacement ordinance to work around the First Amendment concerns of the Federal judge by making it about "traffic safety", he is castigating the homelessness advocates who are opposing this along with the City Council that is slow walking it, and he is calling the Sign People "grifters."

    "Grifters" suggest people acting on their individual initiative to cash on the lucrative panhandling trade that is now legal.

    I am wondering if the Sign People belong to a cult? None of them have the look of major mental illness, alcohol use, and malnutrition of the Downtown street people. They kind of look like the people serving as marshals when President Obama comes to town to give a speech. They kind of look like Hollywood actors where they take short-statured actors in their late 20's and early 30's and have them play teen characters. The look to have padded on some "grime makeup" and dressed down to look like a popular conception of a homeless person. With regard to my cult theory, the Sign People all look fake in the same way.

    The other thing is that some local reporter "went undercover" to work one of these street corners and found that begging could rake in a lot of money, but it seems like a lot of hard work to stand in one spot with a sign for hours in the heat and humidity that has been our summer this year. My cult theory is that there is some Jim Jones guy who calls upon his followers to do this as part of showing fealty, he rakes in the "skim" from the begging, but it is not about the money but rather part of the hazing ritual to belong to the cult to stand on the street?

    Again, the amount of money would not motivate me to undergo the hardship, but were I in a cult, the social acceptance angle could motivate me. Any insights into what could be going on?

    … persons standing in pedestrian “islands” of major streets holding up “Homeless, please help” signs?

    All I know is from a blurb in the nearby mid-size city paper where the council was going to require such to buy a license because they are all professional panhandlers. I noticed a drop in the raw numbers, so one option is to tax it out of existence.

  118. @yaqub the mad scientist
    This is as cynical as I can make myself go, but I honestly wonder if in her presidency she'll let one or two Fergusons go on for political symbolism and venting out: clamp down if anything significant breaks out in DCs and San Francisco-level places, but let a politically unimportant nowheresville like Dayton Ohio roast for a few days.

    You can never be too cynical when the Clintons are involved…however, my hope/feeling is that she recognizes that Obama has been highly divisive and whereas he is/was content to govern this way, it’s because his status as the first black president gives him a lot of leeway from the political class and historians that she won’t get…so her path requires some co-option of the political right and people who didn’t vote for her so she contrasts herself against Obama as more of a consensus politician when it comes to her achievements.

    To do this, she will have to give lip service to BLM but nothing concrete – that is reserved for the law and order whites she will need for re-election when she faces someone other than the flaming train wreck that is Trump. She cannot afford to let the public at large feel crime and violence are on the rise and not do something about it.

  119. @The most deplorable one

    Most Americans do not personally know a single Nonwhite person who plans to vote for Donald Trump.
     
    I do.

    Well, actually, that is false. I know more than one non-White person who plans to vote for Donald Trump. Even more than 2. Funny thing is, they are all immigrants of color who are sick and tired of affirmative action bullshit.

    Also, there are now several indications that he will win:

    http://abcnewsgo.co/2016/08/abc-live-poll-who-are-you-voting-for/
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/always-correct-election-predictor-trump-defeating-sickly-hillary-51-48/
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2016/08/13/app-maker%E2%80%94trump-win-election/88640044/

    Have encountered several DC cab drivers, African natives, who are huge Trumpistas. Some possessed Turgidsonlike levels of enthusiasm and ire, which is saying something.

  120. @candid_observer
    OT, but one of our Overlords has finally come out and said it:

    https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/764550001888530433

    I just hate Democracy so so much!

    If I could go back in time and undo Democracy? I would.

    German President Booed, Attacked; Claims “The People Are The Problem, Not The Elites”

    I wonder if he’s familiar with the famous (at least in these circles) Bertolt Brecht quote?

  121. @candid_observer
    OT, but one of our Overlords has finally come out and said it:

    https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/764550001888530433

    I just hate Democracy so so much!

    If I could go back in time and undo Democracy? I would.

    Thanks — that’s a great video of Gauck, who announced a couple of months ago that he would not seek a second term as Bundespräsident, which is a largely ceremonial office, perfect for a useless ‘virtue signaler’ like him — as a declaration of contempt for common people, and popular democracy, it does not get plainer than that.

    At the ZH link, there is also this from Peggy Noonan in the WSJ:

    The larger point is that this is something we are seeing all over, the top detaching itself from the bottom, feeling little loyalty to it or affiliation with it.

    It is a theme I see working its way throughout the West’s power centers.

    At its heart it is not only a detachment from, but a lack of interest in, the lives of your countrymen, of those who are not at the table, and who understand that they’ve been abandoned by their leaders’ selfishness and mad virtue-signalling.

  122. @Inquiring Mind

    Black Lives Matter should be officially regarded as a black cult.
     
    On the subject of cults, any insights into the persons standing in pedestrian "islands" of major streets holding up "Homeless, please help" signs?

    Not only have I noticed that every street corner of the major intersections features one of these Sign People, but our Radical Mayor-for-Life of Wisconsin's People's Republic (just up I-94 from Milwaukee) is "noticing" the same thing. Turns out that the People's Republic had an anti-panhandling ordinance that was struck down by a Federal judge (there is no professional courtesy among SJW's?). This was 3 months ago, and since then, these Sign People seem to have appeared out of nowhere to stand vigil in intersections.

    Radical Mayor is not just noticing, he is spitting pins over this, or at least he is showing as much agitation as an aging Radical from the 60's with the low-energy affect of a chronic heart condition is able to muster. He is lobbying his City Council to pass a broader replacement ordinance to work around the First Amendment concerns of the Federal judge by making it about "traffic safety", he is castigating the homelessness advocates who are opposing this along with the City Council that is slow walking it, and he is calling the Sign People "grifters."

    "Grifters" suggest people acting on their individual initiative to cash on the lucrative panhandling trade that is now legal.

    I am wondering if the Sign People belong to a cult? None of them have the look of major mental illness, alcohol use, and malnutrition of the Downtown street people. They kind of look like the people serving as marshals when President Obama comes to town to give a speech. They kind of look like Hollywood actors where they take short-statured actors in their late 20's and early 30's and have them play teen characters. The look to have padded on some "grime makeup" and dressed down to look like a popular conception of a homeless person. With regard to my cult theory, the Sign People all look fake in the same way.

    The other thing is that some local reporter "went undercover" to work one of these street corners and found that begging could rake in a lot of money, but it seems like a lot of hard work to stand in one spot with a sign for hours in the heat and humidity that has been our summer this year. My cult theory is that there is some Jim Jones guy who calls upon his followers to do this as part of showing fealty, he rakes in the "skim" from the begging, but it is not about the money but rather part of the hazing ritual to belong to the cult to stand on the street?

    Again, the amount of money would not motivate me to undergo the hardship, but were I in a cult, the social acceptance angle could motivate me. Any insights into what could be going on?

    A lot of them in my blue area get dropped off in the morning and then picked up in the evening just in time for the Free Homeless Food Van. Many of the locals give them money; not me. Yes, some of them are pathetic, but they’d better off going to the Salvation Army (the only charity I give to) rather than hanging out on the streets.

  123. @Corvinus
    Yes, indeed, EVERY protest is now a Black Matters Protest after cops shoot blacks. That is the convenient narrative pushed by the alternative media. It's much easier that way.

    The fact is that white and black cops chased two black armed robbers, with one killing a suspect. In the aftermath, a crowd gathered, which is going to occur in the wake of all situations similar to this one, but in particular in Milwaukee, given its history with police and the community within the past five years with numerous incidents.

    Some in the crowd are going to be noisy but peaceful, others are going to act thuggish.

    "If he was running away, it’s possibly a bad shoot. I can’t justify in my mind shooting at the torso or head of someone with their back turned who’s trying to escape from me. On the other hand, if he was hit in the chest, I doubt he was fleeing."

    Even if he is running away, he was ordered to drop his weapon numerous times. When he turned at the cops, his weapon was drawn. Based on the preliminaries, it's a clean shoot.

    "Either way, the rioting isn’t justified."

    Of course not. Neither is characterizing every single riot in the hood as a mere Black Matters Protest as a meme.

    Well knock me over with a feather, I agree with Corvinus!

  124. @Steve Sailer
    If I were Obama, I'd play 36 holes on Sunday and hope all the fires were finally out by the time I got off the course.

    Well, that IS what he was hired for in the main.

    When the Chicongo Redevelopers need him to issue Official Points regarding their model of Urban Renewal, he’ll put in his Hope and Change Man cape and fly to the scene to read the teleprompter.

  125. I’m not tempted to predict how the election will turn out. At least, not yet. But I can make two election predictions:

    Hillary will not win in a blowout.
    Trump will get several points above what the polls are predicting near election day. I don’t think a 5 point swing would be out of the question. The media’s gone completely ape, and people have better things to do than rub elbows with their cousins, the pollsters.

  126. @Jefferson
    "Trump is so mean though that nice white ladies are just too offended to vote for him."

    Plenty of White men are also too offended to vote for Donald Trump. Hildabeast has support from 34 percent of White males with a college degree and 25 percent of White males without a college degree.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-polls-2016-8

    Most Americans personally know at least 1 White male who plans to vote for Hildabeast.

    Most Americans do not personally know a single Nonwhite person who plans to vote for Donald Trump.

    I have a cousin who is a White male who plans to vote for Hildabeast. He is a high school social studies teacher.

    Those numbers of white men voting for Hillary are terrible. She has no traction among men at least the non-Beta types.

    I can see those who work for the state and federal gov’t supporting her since she promises explosive growth of government services.

    • Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy
    I doubt the rank & file government employees will benefit from either Trump or Clinton. Bill Climton shrank the federal workforce, and even Obama signed a two year pay freeze back when the Dems still controlled Congress. Oddly enough, the best administrations for federal worker pay and benefits in the last several decades were Bush I and Bush II.
  127. @Buffalo Joe
    Arclight, I think right now Hillary's handlers, oh that's a scuzzy thought, are crafting her "Sista Soulja" response to this riot. Reality now follows Steve & Co.

    “Arclight, I think right now Hillary’s handlers, oh that’s a scuzzy thought, are crafting her “Sista Soulja” response to this riot. Reality now follows Steve & Co.”

    Hildabeast will never have a Sista Soulja moment. Her biggest backer George Soros will cut off funding to her presidential campaign if she dared tried to pull a stunt like that. George Soros financially funds Black Lies Matter, so he has a zero tolerance policy for Sista Soulja moments. George Soros is Crooked Hillary’s sugar daddy.

  128. @granesperanzablanco
    I'm a white (mostly) male voting for Hillary. If the GOP had nominated someone less repugnant than Trump or Cruz I would have voted GOP

    Status quo isn't so bad for me

    You mean a globalist who supports open borders.

    You know it’s really amusing, Trump talks like most New Yorkers or Jersey guys, direct and no bullshit. Yet many many, especially educated ones get the vapors over such talk.

    Really tells me a lot of white men have put their cajones in a lock box and buried them.

    • Replies: @granesperanzablanco
    I grew up in a white ethnic type family and grew up with a lot. Great people, very clannish, but don't prefer someone like this as president.
  129. @S. anonyia
    Notice these violent riots always happen in northern and Midwestern cities? I mean, there were protests in Baton Rouge and a lot of verbal abuse towards police in riot fear but nothing was burned down, and no random white people were attacked in their cars. This footage is nuts.

    The deep South has way more blacks and more racial tension than people think, yet no riots on this scale in recent memory.

    Half of the racial problems in the country could be solved by a little more swagger from whites. Midwesterners have to stop being so nice. They are like the nice white lady teacher who can't control her class.

    If suburban whites just start acting like rednecks and the tough ethnic whites in the Northeast, we don't even have to do anything to improve the country, other than deporting illegals with a rap sheet and reducing legal immigration for the next decade or so. A somewhat multiracial society is not that big of a deal if you have the will to stay on top and keep things under control.

    That’s because the whites in the south are armed to the teeth (and packing) and the Dindus know it. Only the GoodWhites put up with this sheiss.

    Nobody has tried anything since Pamella Gellar’s Draw Mohammed contest ended badly for the perps; the group reportedly had an undercover FBI agent as a member.

  130. @The most deplorable one
    If Obama had a city ...

    “If Obama had a city …”

    All big cities in The Midwest are Obama cities.

  131. @Hrw-500
    Some commenters, I don't remember if it was on Breitbart or even Infowars, goes into conspiracy theories territory saying then they started that riot just as Wikileaks and Guccifer released some leaked infos about Hillary, Nancy Pelosi and George Soros. But that's another story. ;-)

    Contenance Blog posted a good rant about the Milwaukee riots. https://countenance.wordpress.com/2016/08/13/your-turn-3/

    “Some commenters, I don’t remember if it was on Breitbart or even Infowars, goes into conspiracy theories territory saying then they started that riot just as Wikileaks and Guccifer released some leaked infos about Hillary, Nancy Pelosi and George Soros. But that’s another story. ;-)”

    In Alex Jones voice “DON’T EVER FORGET THE GULF OF TONKIN.”

  132. @Ed
    The reasoning of the black underclass.

    https://twitter.com/srhbutts/status/764853066684207104

    Cuck Cuckerson reporting live on the scene….

  133. @Inquiring Mind

    Black Lives Matter should be officially regarded as a black cult.
     
    On the subject of cults, any insights into the persons standing in pedestrian "islands" of major streets holding up "Homeless, please help" signs?

    Not only have I noticed that every street corner of the major intersections features one of these Sign People, but our Radical Mayor-for-Life of Wisconsin's People's Republic (just up I-94 from Milwaukee) is "noticing" the same thing. Turns out that the People's Republic had an anti-panhandling ordinance that was struck down by a Federal judge (there is no professional courtesy among SJW's?). This was 3 months ago, and since then, these Sign People seem to have appeared out of nowhere to stand vigil in intersections.

    Radical Mayor is not just noticing, he is spitting pins over this, or at least he is showing as much agitation as an aging Radical from the 60's with the low-energy affect of a chronic heart condition is able to muster. He is lobbying his City Council to pass a broader replacement ordinance to work around the First Amendment concerns of the Federal judge by making it about "traffic safety", he is castigating the homelessness advocates who are opposing this along with the City Council that is slow walking it, and he is calling the Sign People "grifters."

    "Grifters" suggest people acting on their individual initiative to cash on the lucrative panhandling trade that is now legal.

    I am wondering if the Sign People belong to a cult? None of them have the look of major mental illness, alcohol use, and malnutrition of the Downtown street people. They kind of look like the people serving as marshals when President Obama comes to town to give a speech. They kind of look like Hollywood actors where they take short-statured actors in their late 20's and early 30's and have them play teen characters. The look to have padded on some "grime makeup" and dressed down to look like a popular conception of a homeless person. With regard to my cult theory, the Sign People all look fake in the same way.

    The other thing is that some local reporter "went undercover" to work one of these street corners and found that begging could rake in a lot of money, but it seems like a lot of hard work to stand in one spot with a sign for hours in the heat and humidity that has been our summer this year. My cult theory is that there is some Jim Jones guy who calls upon his followers to do this as part of showing fealty, he rakes in the "skim" from the begging, but it is not about the money but rather part of the hazing ritual to belong to the cult to stand on the street?

    Again, the amount of money would not motivate me to undergo the hardship, but were I in a cult, the social acceptance angle could motivate me. Any insights into what could be going on?

    Inquiring, Yes, standing in the heat and humidity is grueling, but not as crushing as roofing or hot asphalt work in the heat and humidity, right?

  134. What’s the big deal? Milwaukee just had a couple of undocumented bonfires last night.

  135. @wren

    Police said the crowd also tossed rocks at them as they tried to clear the neighborhood. The crowd knocked down and punched one reporter for the local newspaper and chased other journalists from the area, according to the Journal-Sentinel.

    "Just had rocks thrown at me photographing this burn[ing] car at Sherman Blvd near Auer," photojournalist Mike De Sisti tweeted. The newspaper later said on Twitter that its staff members had left the area safely.
     
    If the media did not keep telling me that these events are "largely peaceful," I might accidentally draw the wrong conclusions.

    LOL. (Funny as that was, I didn’t want to waste one of my buttons on it.)

  136. @Corvinus
    Yes, indeed, EVERY protest is now a Black Matters Protest after cops shoot blacks. That is the convenient narrative pushed by the alternative media. It's much easier that way.

    The fact is that white and black cops chased two black armed robbers, with one killing a suspect. In the aftermath, a crowd gathered, which is going to occur in the wake of all situations similar to this one, but in particular in Milwaukee, given its history with police and the community within the past five years with numerous incidents.

    Some in the crowd are going to be noisy but peaceful, others are going to act thuggish.

    "If he was running away, it’s possibly a bad shoot. I can’t justify in my mind shooting at the torso or head of someone with their back turned who’s trying to escape from me. On the other hand, if he was hit in the chest, I doubt he was fleeing."

    Even if he is running away, he was ordered to drop his weapon numerous times. When he turned at the cops, his weapon was drawn. Based on the preliminaries, it's a clean shoot.

    "Either way, the rioting isn’t justified."

    Of course not. Neither is characterizing every single riot in the hood as a mere Black Matters Protest as a meme.

    this one, but in particular in Milwaukee, given its history with police and the community within the past

    Its history of black people committing crimes and then getting mad when police make them stop? I believe it.

    • Replies: @CJ
    ...history of black people committing crimes and then getting mad when police make them stop...

    An excellent distillation. I may have to steal it.
  137. @candid_observer
    OT, but one of our Overlords has finally come out and said it:

    https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/764550001888530433

    I just hate Democracy so so much!

    If I could go back in time and undo Democracy? I would.

    Gauck was a privileged pastor in east germany, who is now bashing the GDR. He was allowed to drive a VW and his sons could travel to west germany. He is the ultimate opportunist.

    Not the elite or the politicians are traitors, the people is the traitor and should punished accordingly.

    #Lügenvolk

  138. @granesperanzablanco
    I'm a white (mostly) male voting for Hillary. If the GOP had nominated someone less repugnant than Trump or Cruz I would have voted GOP

    Status quo isn't so bad for me

    How long will the status quo last if Hillary makes appointments to the Supreme Court?

    • Replies: @granesperanzablanco
    I assume status quo continues. the point of the Trump phenomena is rejecting the status quo. Every aggrieved white person is projecting all their hopes on this grifter like character.
  139. @inertial
    Yesterday night I look at news headlines on my phone and see a photo of a rising column of flame with the caption: "Volcano erupts in Milwaukee."

    WHAT???

    Then I look closer: "Violence erupts in Milwaukee." Oh. Right.

    They really should stop using words like "erupts" unless it's an actual geological event. My eyes are not what they used to be, and for a second there I thought that the end of the world is nigh.

    inert, We should be so lucky that a volcano erupted in Milwaukee…but the blame would be on Trump.

    • LOL: Kylie
  140. @granesperanzablanco
    I'm a white (mostly) male voting for Hillary. If the GOP had nominated someone less repugnant than Trump or Cruz I would have voted GOP

    Status quo isn't so bad for me

    • Replies: @granesperanzablanco
    I'm just an average middle class person with a stable career who can't fathom a president trump being good for stability

    That's all.

    Why can't the GOP run someone credible who is not a huckster or religious wacko like Cruz? Lots of us out there are moderates
    , @Moshe
    Yes RAMZIPAUL because identity politics is what REALLY counts.

    It's not hard to make the argument that a Trump presidency will make the life of a poor white man better than a Clinton presidency would.

    But, unless identity politics is what you're ALL about, it's REALLY not hard to make the argument that a Clinton presidency will make life better for a poor white man than a Trump presidency would.

    RAMZIPAUL - like all of us, including me, is completely ignoring the bread and butter issues that matter like 100 times more than the issues Donald Trump raises - which, we all know, he may not even carry out.

    Morons are invited to argue that it is impossible to make a reasonable case that a white man's life would be easier with a Clinton presidency.

  141. @415 reasons
    It's over. The bump in the polls came during the convention when people heard what Trump actually has to say and not non-stop attack ads disguised as news reports. And the shy Tory effect wasn't enough to prevent him from taking a lead then. Does the media put their finger on the scale when taking the polls? Probably a little, but not enough to account for a 7 point lead in the polls.

    Even if Trump were to win it wouldn't make a difference in the long run. We can't elect a new media, or make the grown ups in this country start acting like grown ups again. It's a long slow slog to the bottom, and a four year holding action wouldn't change the end of the story. Voters in this country are a pack of fickle mush heads who believe a bunch of bullshit about our glorious rainbow future instead of their own lying eyes. We deserve what's in store for us.

    Wow, how utterly depressing and completely true. Trump’s election would have very little difference. We’re in permanent hock to the Chinese politburo. Our country has gone over the cliff.

  142. @yaqub the mad scientist
    This is as cynical as I can make myself go, but I honestly wonder if in her presidency she'll let one or two Fergusons go on for political symbolism and venting out: clamp down if anything significant breaks out in DCs and San Francisco-level places, but let a politically unimportant nowheresville like Dayton Ohio roast for a few days.

    “This is as cynical as I can make myself go, but I honestly wonder if in her presidency she’ll let one or two Fergusons go on for political symbolism and venting out: clamp down if anything significant breaks out in DCs and San Francisco-level places, but let a politically unimportant nowheresville like Dayton Ohio roast for a few days.”

    A Milwaukee type racial riot could never occur in San Francisco because this city is now down to only 5 percent Black, a historic low for this city.

    http://www.city-data.com/city/San-Francisco-California.html

    You are mistaking San Francisco for Oakland, where Blacks are the racial plurality.

    Milwaukee type racial riots are a common occurrence in Oakland.

    The only way I could see San Francisco getting Milwaukee style racial riots is if the Mexicans/Central Americans here start behaving like African Americans everytime one of their own is killed by a police officer.

    • Replies: @granesperanzablanco
    Actually more white than blacks in Oakland and black population is also declining
    , @yaqub the mad scientist
    I"m not. I know the demographics: SF is an emerging Yellow/Whitopia, and Oakland has been BLM forever, but SF still pays a bit of lip service to leftism, and Oakland is right nearby. I just picked it as a hip lib place whose cultural and economic cachet are such that I doubt Clinton would allow for some solidarity march to spin way out of control- and that's what it would be- solidarity from local whites, but with a real prospect of Oaklandites right nearby to come in and radicalize the situation much further. And why wouldn't they? BLM has bared its claws a bit in hip white neighborhoods and colleges (a kind of "if you're not actively with us, you're against us"feint). As has been pointed out on this blog, their "take it to the false allies" thing has been so far pretty tepid- a probable sign of rich nonprofits steering their anger some. Nonetheless, I could easily see an uncontrolled Oakland spillover happen- and Clinton moving to contain it.
  143. The Latest: Chief: Officer, Man in Fatal Shooting Both Black

    By The Associated Press

    MILWAUKEE — Aug 14, 2016, 4:17 PM

  144. @rod1963
    You mean a globalist who supports open borders.

    You know it's really amusing, Trump talks like most New Yorkers or Jersey guys, direct and no bullshit. Yet many many, especially educated ones get the vapors over such talk.

    Really tells me a lot of white men have put their cajones in a lock box and buried them.

    I grew up in a white ethnic type family and grew up with a lot. Great people, very clannish, but don’t prefer someone like this as president.

  145. @Grumpy
    How long will the status quo last if Hillary makes appointments to the Supreme Court?

    I assume status quo continues. the point of the Trump phenomena is rejecting the status quo. Every aggrieved white person is projecting all their hopes on this grifter like character.

    • Replies: @Peripatetic commenter

    Every aggrieved white person is projecting all their hopes on this grifter like character.
     
    So, a very successful business man with a history of kindness to people in trouble is a grifter now.
    , @ben tillman

    I assume status quo continues. the point of the Trump phenomena is rejecting the status quo. Every aggrieved white person is projecting all their hopes on this grifter like character.
     
    We KNOW that the other candidate will sell/destroy our children's inheritance. A vote for her is a vote for national destruction. Is that a feature rather than a bug for you?
  146. @eah
    https://twitter.com/ramzpaul/status/758300946497572864

    I’m just an average middle class person with a stable career who can’t fathom a president trump being good for stability

    That’s all.

    Why can’t the GOP run someone credible who is not a huckster or religious wacko like Cruz? Lots of us out there are moderates

    • Replies: @Peripatetic commenter

    Lots of us out there are moderates
     
    If you are a moderate then moderates are ignorant.

    Ahhh, you are one of those moderate Muslims. Makes sense now. Step away from the goat!
    , @anon
    Well, Mitt Romney is probably the least hucksterish, least wacko person to ever run. Did you vote for him? I bet you didn't. I bet the media managed to scare you away from voting for him because they told you he was going to take away your birth control and give you cancer.

    Let's not pretend there's any more to it than that, OK?

    , @Jack Hanson
    Not sure if this is sarcasm or you are being serious, seeing as how Cruz was running for President of Jesus Land and Outlying Social Strivers.
  147. @Jefferson
    "This is as cynical as I can make myself go, but I honestly wonder if in her presidency she’ll let one or two Fergusons go on for political symbolism and venting out: clamp down if anything significant breaks out in DCs and San Francisco-level places, but let a politically unimportant nowheresville like Dayton Ohio roast for a few days."

    A Milwaukee type racial riot could never occur in San Francisco because this city is now down to only 5 percent Black, a historic low for this city.
    http://www.city-data.com/city/San-Francisco-California.html

    You are mistaking San Francisco for Oakland, where Blacks are the racial plurality.

    Milwaukee type racial riots are a common occurrence in Oakland.

    The only way I could see San Francisco getting Milwaukee style racial riots is if the Mexicans/Central Americans here start behaving like African Americans everytime one of their own is killed by a police officer.

    Actually more white than blacks in Oakland and black population is also declining

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "Actually more white than blacks in Oakland and black population is also declining"

    Blacks still outnumber Whites by 3 percentage points in Oakland.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oakland,_California#Race_and_ethnicity
  148. @granesperanzablanco
    I assume status quo continues. the point of the Trump phenomena is rejecting the status quo. Every aggrieved white person is projecting all their hopes on this grifter like character.

    Every aggrieved white person is projecting all their hopes on this grifter like character.

    So, a very successful business man with a history of kindness to people in trouble is a grifter now.

  149. @granesperanzablanco
    I'm just an average middle class person with a stable career who can't fathom a president trump being good for stability

    That's all.

    Why can't the GOP run someone credible who is not a huckster or religious wacko like Cruz? Lots of us out there are moderates

    Lots of us out there are moderates

    If you are a moderate then moderates are ignorant.

    Ahhh, you are one of those moderate Muslims. Makes sense now. Step away from the goat!

  150. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @granesperanzablanco
    I'm just an average middle class person with a stable career who can't fathom a president trump being good for stability

    That's all.

    Why can't the GOP run someone credible who is not a huckster or religious wacko like Cruz? Lots of us out there are moderates

    Well, Mitt Romney is probably the least hucksterish, least wacko person to ever run. Did you vote for him? I bet you didn’t. I bet the media managed to scare you away from voting for him because they told you he was going to take away your birth control and give you cancer.

    Let’s not pretend there’s any more to it than that, OK?

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "Well, Mitt Romney is probably the least hucksterish, least wacko person to ever run. Did you vote for him? I bet you didn’t. I bet the media managed to scare you away from voting for him because they told you he was going to take away your birth control and give you cancer.

    Let’s not pretend there’s any more to it than that, OK?"

    In 2012 I met some so-called "White Moderates" who said they will not vote for Mitt Romney because he is too Right Wing with his comments that Illegal Immigrants should deport themselves & go home, 47 percent of the country do not pay income taxes, and his binders full of female names that he might put on his cabinet if he is elected POTUS.

    If a White person tells you she or he is a Moderate, they are basically Liberals. They just think Moderate has a nicer ring to it.
    , @Curle
    Hardly, Mormonism is nothing but hucksterism and wacko-ism, accepted by normal people only because we've been bullied into acceptance of lunatic religious cults over the last thirty years in the name of 'tolerance.'

    For the record, Jos Smith was con man who robbed people of their money and perved out on underage women who weren't his wife claiming them as his 'spirit wives.' He was killed at the hands of an angry mob composed of some of the fathers of these women seeking retribution. The attempt by the Mormon Church to sanitize this guy and make him a victim is every bit as fraudulent as what the media does today with regard to Black behaviors. The Mormon Church hides most of this stuff from its followers but Romney had to know and stuck with the group anyway. He spent his missionary years trying to convert Catholics in France to his cult.

    For those whose forefathers were Christians, it is worth noting that from the beginning Christians sought t0 expose this spurious fraud. The Presbyterians were particularly admirable in this regard. They failed, but at least they didn't try and normalize it by nominating one of Smith's loony acolytes to the highest job in the land as the hapless Republicans did.
    , @Ed
    Probably not, he probably didn't vote for McCain or Bush or Dole. He's about as moderate as a Sandinista probably.
    , @MarkinLA
    Bain Capital what more needs to be said about hucksterism?
  151. @anon
    It's much worse than you'd know from the current reporting.

    Things went to hell last night while people were asleep. It's still getting worse.

    Can confirm that Trump is in fact to blame, though.

    I’m sure the flooding is worse than reported but I think I can imagine how bad it is. I was living on a creek bank with a broken leg during the Flood of 1993. A friend came and got me to higher ground. I live in a river town now and we’ve had flooding all but one of the last eight years.

    Most people have no idea how dangerous flood waters are. When my husband and I were house hunting, a house on a hill was one of my few requirements.

  152. @ic1000
    The current headline at the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel is Violence erupts after officer-involved shooting.

    Here's the start of the article, which I have edited has gotten edited to better conform to the spirit of the paper's "stuff happens" style.


    A standoff between police and an angry crowd turned violent Saturday night in the hours after a Milwaukee police officer shot and killed an armed suspect got shot and killed during a foot chase on the city's north side.

    After an hours-long confrontation with officers, police it was reported at 10:15 p.m. that a gas station at N. Sherman Blvd. and W. Burleigh St. was set on fire. Police said firefighters could not for a time get close It was said that closeness could not be gotten to the blaze because of gunshots.

    Later, fires were started at businesses — including a BMO Harris Bank branch, a beauty supply company and O'Reilly Auto Parts stores — near N. 35th and W. Burleigh streets, it was said grimly and emphatically by a grim and emphatic Mayor Tom Barrett said. He spoke The speech happened at a midnight news conference at the District 3 police station at N. 49th St. and W. Lisbon Ave.

    He and Common Council President Ashanti Hamilton pleaded There was pleading with the public for calm. Barrett promised a A strong police presence in coming days was promised.
     

    Has Ron enabled the html strikethrough tag ?

    • Replies: @eah, @ic1000
    html strikethrough start is [strike] and end is [/strike]. Replace "[" with "<" etc.
    Thus [strike]strikethrough[/strike] becomes strikethrough.
    , @Expletive Deleted
    I have no idea. Let's see ... [del] replace square brackets with angle ones [/del].
    Yup. That works. Now to get out of here in under 5 mins ...
    There's no charge, just leave a consideration in Steve's tip jar :¬)
  153. @granesperanzablanco
    Actually more white than blacks in Oakland and black population is also declining

    “Actually more white than blacks in Oakland and black population is also declining”

    Blacks still outnumber Whites by 3 percentage points in Oakland.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oakland,_California#Race_and_ethnicity

    • Replies: @granesperanzablanco
    Check 2016
  154. @granesperanzablanco
    I'm a white (mostly) male voting for Hillary. If the GOP had nominated someone less repugnant than Trump or Cruz I would have voted GOP

    Status quo isn't so bad for me

    I’m a white (mostly) male voting for Hillary

    .

    Mostly male? Which way are you transitioning, to male or from male?

  155. @Percy Gryce
    Has Ron enabled the html strikethrough tag ?
    • Replies: @Percy Gryce
    Thanks!
  156. @anon
    this one, but in particular in Milwaukee, given its history with police and the community within the past

    Its history of black people committing crimes and then getting mad when police make them stop? I believe it.

    …history of black people committing crimes and then getting mad when police make them stop…

    An excellent distillation. I may have to steal it.

  157. @anon
    Well, Mitt Romney is probably the least hucksterish, least wacko person to ever run. Did you vote for him? I bet you didn't. I bet the media managed to scare you away from voting for him because they told you he was going to take away your birth control and give you cancer.

    Let's not pretend there's any more to it than that, OK?

    “Well, Mitt Romney is probably the least hucksterish, least wacko person to ever run. Did you vote for him? I bet you didn’t. I bet the media managed to scare you away from voting for him because they told you he was going to take away your birth control and give you cancer.

    Let’s not pretend there’s any more to it than that, OK?”

    In 2012 I met some so-called “White Moderates” who said they will not vote for Mitt Romney because he is too Right Wing with his comments that Illegal Immigrants should deport themselves & go home, 47 percent of the country do not pay income taxes, and his binders full of female names that he might put on his cabinet if he is elected POTUS.

    If a White person tells you she or he is a Moderate, they are basically Liberals. They just think Moderate has a nicer ring to it.

  158. @granesperanzablanco
    I'm just an average middle class person with a stable career who can't fathom a president trump being good for stability

    That's all.

    Why can't the GOP run someone credible who is not a huckster or religious wacko like Cruz? Lots of us out there are moderates

    Not sure if this is sarcasm or you are being serious, seeing as how Cruz was running for President of Jesus Land and Outlying Social Strivers.

  159. The shooter was also black.

    http://my.chicagotribune.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-88104163/

    But maybe he was one of those light skinned blacks, and probably a racist oppressor.

  160. @schmenz
    I'm afraid you're right. There's an old joke-saying in Milwaukee which goes something like this: (add European accent) "My great-grandaddy voted Democrat, my granddaddy voted Democrat, my daddy voted Democrat and I'M voting Democrat".

    And - joy of joys - I live three minutes from the scene of Milwaukee's terrorism last night.

    Yikes!

    I hope no one breaks your window and beats your ass.

    This sounds like a genuine nightmare.

    http://www.infowars.com/video-black-lives-matter-rioters-target-whites-for-beat-downs/

  161. @Hrw-500
    Some commenters, I don't remember if it was on Breitbart or even Infowars, goes into conspiracy theories territory saying then they started that riot just as Wikileaks and Guccifer released some leaked infos about Hillary, Nancy Pelosi and George Soros. But that's another story. ;-)

    Contenance Blog posted a good rant about the Milwaukee riots. https://countenance.wordpress.com/2016/08/13/your-turn-3/

    It’s pretty reasonable – Soros funds the BLM movement. Soros leaks come out. BLM has riot in Milwaukee. Discussion about it on the_donald.

    https://m.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/4xp41z/milwaukee_riots_being_censored_across_reddit_get/

  162. @Ed
    The reasoning of the black underclass.

    https://twitter.com/srhbutts/status/764853066684207104

    Not just the black underclass, did you read the comments of the poster, one Sarah Nyberg, whom by her last name certainly sounds European by descent? This lady does the following math:
    1) death of fleeing black suspect carrying weapon; 2) this occurs in open carry state; 3) therefore the death must be murder by racism. No mention of ignored orders to drop the weapon which I gather is irrelevant to her worldview.

    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
    Pssttt ... "Sarah" is a guy. Pass it on.
    Born Nicholas Nyberg in Madison WI. Brianna Wu-type Gamergate drama queen and general halfwitted nuisance.
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/09/11/leading-gamergate-critic-sarah-nyberg-claimed-to-be-a-pedophile-apologised-for-white-nationalism/

    Check out its front page of g00gl3 hits. Tells you pretty much the whole story.
  163. @Jefferson
    "This is as cynical as I can make myself go, but I honestly wonder if in her presidency she’ll let one or two Fergusons go on for political symbolism and venting out: clamp down if anything significant breaks out in DCs and San Francisco-level places, but let a politically unimportant nowheresville like Dayton Ohio roast for a few days."

    A Milwaukee type racial riot could never occur in San Francisco because this city is now down to only 5 percent Black, a historic low for this city.
    http://www.city-data.com/city/San-Francisco-California.html

    You are mistaking San Francisco for Oakland, where Blacks are the racial plurality.

    Milwaukee type racial riots are a common occurrence in Oakland.

    The only way I could see San Francisco getting Milwaukee style racial riots is if the Mexicans/Central Americans here start behaving like African Americans everytime one of their own is killed by a police officer.

    I”m not. I know the demographics: SF is an emerging Yellow/Whitopia, and Oakland has been BLM forever, but SF still pays a bit of lip service to leftism, and Oakland is right nearby. I just picked it as a hip lib place whose cultural and economic cachet are such that I doubt Clinton would allow for some solidarity march to spin way out of control- and that’s what it would be- solidarity from local whites, but with a real prospect of Oaklandites right nearby to come in and radicalize the situation much further. And why wouldn’t they? BLM has bared its claws a bit in hip white neighborhoods and colleges (a kind of “if you’re not actively with us, you’re against us”feint). As has been pointed out on this blog, their “take it to the false allies” thing has been so far pretty tepid- a probable sign of rich nonprofits steering their anger some. Nonetheless, I could easily see an uncontrolled Oakland spillover happen- and Clinton moving to contain it.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    San Francisco is 5 percent Black compared to Milwaukee which is 40 percent Black, a huge difference right there like day & night. San Francisco is not a high risk city for mass Negro riots because the racial demographics work against them. Even Toronto and London have a higher percentage of Blacks than San Francisco.
  164. @Jefferson
    "Actually more white than blacks in Oakland and black population is also declining"

    Blacks still outnumber Whites by 3 percentage points in Oakland.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oakland,_California#Race_and_ethnicity

    Check 2016

  165. @Ed
    The reasoning of the black underclass.

    https://twitter.com/srhbutts/status/764853066684207104

    Maybe I speak to a more diverse group of people than you do but I hear worse than this 5-10 times a week.

    Heck, just yesterday I spoke to a group of nine African Israelites who are planning (good luck) to enslave Whites.

    There are numerous ways that people get there but I often hear worse than this from White People and almost daily from Black People – and Hispanics Who Think They’re Black (Hispanics Who Think They’re WhiteBy on the other hand are as reasonable about this issue as Yemenite Deli Owners).

  166. @anon
    Well, Mitt Romney is probably the least hucksterish, least wacko person to ever run. Did you vote for him? I bet you didn't. I bet the media managed to scare you away from voting for him because they told you he was going to take away your birth control and give you cancer.

    Let's not pretend there's any more to it than that, OK?

    Hardly, Mormonism is nothing but hucksterism and wacko-ism, accepted by normal people only because we’ve been bullied into acceptance of lunatic religious cults over the last thirty years in the name of ‘tolerance.’

    For the record, Jos Smith was con man who robbed people of their money and perved out on underage women who weren’t his wife claiming them as his ‘spirit wives.’ He was killed at the hands of an angry mob composed of some of the fathers of these women seeking retribution. The attempt by the Mormon Church to sanitize this guy and make him a victim is every bit as fraudulent as what the media does today with regard to Black behaviors. The Mormon Church hides most of this stuff from its followers but Romney had to know and stuck with the group anyway. He spent his missionary years trying to convert Catholics in France to his cult.

    For those whose forefathers were Christians, it is worth noting that from the beginning Christians sought t0 expose this spurious fraud. The Presbyterians were particularly admirable in this regard. They failed, but at least they didn’t try and normalize it by nominating one of Smith’s loony acolytes to the highest job in the land as the hapless Republicans did.

    • Replies: @anon
    "Hardly, Mormonism is nothing but hucksterism and wacko-ism, accepted by normal people only because we’ve been bullied into acceptance of lunatic religious cults over the last thirty years in the name of ‘tolerance.’"

    Thanks, Christopher Hitchens.

    But even if all that is true, does that actually mean that every single person who was ever born into Mormonism is a huckster and a wacko?
    , @anon

    Hardly, Mormonism is nothing but hucksterism and wacko-ism
     
    Non-elite Anglos in the eastern cities were being pushed out by immigration - some guys created and led an exodus. Genetically speaking it was a great success - like religion often is when it's concentrated among a particular ethnic group.
  167. @inertial
    Yesterday night I look at news headlines on my phone and see a photo of a rising column of flame with the caption: "Volcano erupts in Milwaukee."

    WHAT???

    Then I look closer: "Violence erupts in Milwaukee." Oh. Right.

    They really should stop using words like "erupts" unless it's an actual geological event. My eyes are not what they used to be, and for a second there I thought that the end of the world is nigh.

    Too bad it wasn’t a volcano. At least people can just move away from a volcano.

  168. @eah
    https://twitter.com/ramzpaul/status/758300946497572864

    Yes RAMZIPAUL because identity politics is what REALLY counts.

    It’s not hard to make the argument that a Trump presidency will make the life of a poor white man better than a Clinton presidency would.

    But, unless identity politics is what you’re ALL about, it’s REALLY not hard to make the argument that a Clinton presidency will make life better for a poor white man than a Trump presidency would.

    RAMZIPAUL – like all of us, including me, is completely ignoring the bread and butter issues that matter like 100 times more than the issues Donald Trump raises – which, we all know, he may not even carry out.

    Morons are invited to argue that it is impossible to make a reasonable case that a white man’s life would be easier with a Clinton presidency.

    • Replies: @Peripatetic commenter

    Morons are invited to argue that it is impossible to make a reasonable case that a white man’s life would be easier with a Clinton presidency.
     
    I don't think you need to be a moron to argue that. Clinton very clearly does not have the interests of Americans at heart, especially not the the poor one. She is a globalist through and through who accepts funds from special interests outside the US. The lives of poor and middle-class whites and others are simply going to get worse and worse under Clinton as she makes life easier for the banking classes and overseas interests.

    Also, I see what you did there Moshe. (((Moshe) cries out in pain as he proclaims anyone who would disagree with him is a moron.

    , @ben tillman

    But, unless identity politics is what you’re ALL about, it’s REALLY not hard to make the argument that a Clinton presidency will make life better for a poor white man than a Trump presidency would.
     
    Funny then that you didn't make such an argument. I certainly can't imagine one.
  169. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Curle
    Hardly, Mormonism is nothing but hucksterism and wacko-ism, accepted by normal people only because we've been bullied into acceptance of lunatic religious cults over the last thirty years in the name of 'tolerance.'

    For the record, Jos Smith was con man who robbed people of their money and perved out on underage women who weren't his wife claiming them as his 'spirit wives.' He was killed at the hands of an angry mob composed of some of the fathers of these women seeking retribution. The attempt by the Mormon Church to sanitize this guy and make him a victim is every bit as fraudulent as what the media does today with regard to Black behaviors. The Mormon Church hides most of this stuff from its followers but Romney had to know and stuck with the group anyway. He spent his missionary years trying to convert Catholics in France to his cult.

    For those whose forefathers were Christians, it is worth noting that from the beginning Christians sought t0 expose this spurious fraud. The Presbyterians were particularly admirable in this regard. They failed, but at least they didn't try and normalize it by nominating one of Smith's loony acolytes to the highest job in the land as the hapless Republicans did.

    “Hardly, Mormonism is nothing but hucksterism and wacko-ism, accepted by normal people only because we’ve been bullied into acceptance of lunatic religious cults over the last thirty years in the name of ‘tolerance.’”

    Thanks, Christopher Hitchens.

    But even if all that is true, does that actually mean that every single person who was ever born into Mormonism is a huckster and a wacko?

    • Agree: Hibernian
    • Replies: @Curle
    If you sell snake oil, yes, you are a huckster by definition. If you believe your snake oil, and it is preposterous snake oil easily discerned as such by a rational mind, then you are a wacko. Both of these conditions apply to Mormonism in general and Romney in particular. Christopher Hitchens is to be admired for his capacity to grasp such things. The Jumping the Shark moment for the Republican Party, that moment when it showed it stood for nothing serious whatsoever, was the moment it nominated that clown to be its nominee.
  170. @anon
    "Hardly, Mormonism is nothing but hucksterism and wacko-ism, accepted by normal people only because we’ve been bullied into acceptance of lunatic religious cults over the last thirty years in the name of ‘tolerance.’"

    Thanks, Christopher Hitchens.

    But even if all that is true, does that actually mean that every single person who was ever born into Mormonism is a huckster and a wacko?

    If you sell snake oil, yes, you are a huckster by definition. If you believe your snake oil, and it is preposterous snake oil easily discerned as such by a rational mind, then you are a wacko. Both of these conditions apply to Mormonism in general and Romney in particular. Christopher Hitchens is to be admired for his capacity to grasp such things. The Jumping the Shark moment for the Republican Party, that moment when it showed it stood for nothing serious whatsoever, was the moment it nominated that clown to be its nominee.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    Some people say the same thing about Catholics, of whom I am one. One man's faith is another man's cult.
  171. @Moshe
    Yes RAMZIPAUL because identity politics is what REALLY counts.

    It's not hard to make the argument that a Trump presidency will make the life of a poor white man better than a Clinton presidency would.

    But, unless identity politics is what you're ALL about, it's REALLY not hard to make the argument that a Clinton presidency will make life better for a poor white man than a Trump presidency would.

    RAMZIPAUL - like all of us, including me, is completely ignoring the bread and butter issues that matter like 100 times more than the issues Donald Trump raises - which, we all know, he may not even carry out.

    Morons are invited to argue that it is impossible to make a reasonable case that a white man's life would be easier with a Clinton presidency.

    Morons are invited to argue that it is impossible to make a reasonable case that a white man’s life would be easier with a Clinton presidency.

    I don’t think you need to be a moron to argue that. Clinton very clearly does not have the interests of Americans at heart, especially not the the poor one. She is a globalist through and through who accepts funds from special interests outside the US. The lives of poor and middle-class whites and others are simply going to get worse and worse under Clinton as she makes life easier for the banking classes and overseas interests.

    Also, I see what you did there Moshe. (((Moshe) cries out in pain as he proclaims anyone who would disagree with him is a moron.

  172. @anon
    Well, Mitt Romney is probably the least hucksterish, least wacko person to ever run. Did you vote for him? I bet you didn't. I bet the media managed to scare you away from voting for him because they told you he was going to take away your birth control and give you cancer.

    Let's not pretend there's any more to it than that, OK?

    Probably not, he probably didn’t vote for McCain or Bush or Dole. He’s about as moderate as a Sandinista probably.

  173. @yaqub the mad scientist
    I"m not. I know the demographics: SF is an emerging Yellow/Whitopia, and Oakland has been BLM forever, but SF still pays a bit of lip service to leftism, and Oakland is right nearby. I just picked it as a hip lib place whose cultural and economic cachet are such that I doubt Clinton would allow for some solidarity march to spin way out of control- and that's what it would be- solidarity from local whites, but with a real prospect of Oaklandites right nearby to come in and radicalize the situation much further. And why wouldn't they? BLM has bared its claws a bit in hip white neighborhoods and colleges (a kind of "if you're not actively with us, you're against us"feint). As has been pointed out on this blog, their "take it to the false allies" thing has been so far pretty tepid- a probable sign of rich nonprofits steering their anger some. Nonetheless, I could easily see an uncontrolled Oakland spillover happen- and Clinton moving to contain it.

    San Francisco is 5 percent Black compared to Milwaukee which is 40 percent Black, a huge difference right there like day & night. San Francisco is not a high risk city for mass Negro riots because the racial demographics work against them. Even Toronto and London have a higher percentage of Blacks than San Francisco.

  174. @Clyde
    I saw that photo before and it bugged me the same way it got to you. NYC probably has the largest Bangladeshi population in America with at least 200,000. I remember a mouthy Bangladeshi guy bragging before the 911 attack about the hundreds of thousands of them in NYC. Was in the NY Times.

    Bangladeshi and Pakistani immigration is especially dangerous for our future because they are crowded, extremely poor, disease-ridden, backward, low-IQ and Muslim countries with 172 million and 202 million people, respectively. More people than the USA and Canada combined.

    Right now we do not get many of their non-elite populations simply because there is no critical mass here already for illegals to blend into, provide arrival housing, and loan money for their airfare with remittances.

    When that critical mass happens though, we are doomed. It happened with El Salvador, Somalia, Cuba, Dominican Republican, and Philippines.

    The picture is especially depressing because it shows the type of South Asians we have to fear, not the pleasant computer programmers, motel owners, or doctors that make up so many of them historically, and who quickly spread out, blend in and have low fertility.

    Instead the picture shows angry, dumb-faced inbreds who gather in the street to shout about how much they hate racist Old Americans.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    Stating the obvious by they are waging demographic warfare once the get their beachheads and critical mass in the United States. If US citizens then they are marrying native Bangladeshis and legally bringing them in here and being well compensated by the native Bangladeshi family because now they have an immigration beachhead into the United States. The UK Pakistanis have this all down to a science. Then add in all the clannishness and inbreeding due to cousin marriage.

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/a-demographic-theory-of-war/article/15288
    A Demographic Theory of War
    Population, power, and the 'slightly weird' ideas of Gunnar Heinsohn.
    11:00 PM, Oct 04, 2007 | By Clark Whelton

    "LOOK AT IT THIS WAY," Gunnar Heinsohn said. "Your family is in a shooting war with a family across the street. Your forces consist of a father, mother and one child, perhaps two. The other family has a father, mother and seven children, perhaps eight or nine. For your family, the loss of one person would be devastating. The larger family can take casualties and continue fighting."

    We were in London, having coffee before a Jane's Cityforum conference on "Defense to 2020 and Beyond."
    "My point," Heinsohn continued, "is that the strength of a nation's military is affected by the size of a nation's families. Falling birth rates in Western countries mean that even light casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan bring cries of pain in Europe and America. But Iraq and Afghanistan are growing rapidly. Their populations are swollen by youth bulges. Their average family has five or six children. They are in what I call 'extreme demographic armament.'"
     
  175. @Percy Gryce
    Has Ron enabled the html strikethrough tag ?

    html strikethrough start is [strike] and end is [/strike]. Replace “[" with "<" etc.
    Thus [strike]strikethrough[/strike] becomes strikethrough.

    • Replies: @Percy Gryce
    Thanks. Why did I think it was [s]?

    Man, I've had a couple of good strikesthrough that I've wanted to use--particularly when I correct Steve's grammar and style.
  176. @Jefferson
    "Trump is so mean though that nice white ladies are just too offended to vote for him."

    Plenty of White men are also too offended to vote for Donald Trump. Hildabeast has support from 34 percent of White males with a college degree and 25 percent of White males without a college degree.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-polls-2016-8

    Most Americans personally know at least 1 White male who plans to vote for Hildabeast.

    Most Americans do not personally know a single Nonwhite person who plans to vote for Donald Trump.

    I have a cousin who is a White male who plans to vote for Hildabeast. He is a high school social studies teacher.

    Humans with penises. Not men.

  177. @Curle
    If you sell snake oil, yes, you are a huckster by definition. If you believe your snake oil, and it is preposterous snake oil easily discerned as such by a rational mind, then you are a wacko. Both of these conditions apply to Mormonism in general and Romney in particular. Christopher Hitchens is to be admired for his capacity to grasp such things. The Jumping the Shark moment for the Republican Party, that moment when it showed it stood for nothing serious whatsoever, was the moment it nominated that clown to be its nominee.

    Some people say the same thing about Catholics, of whom I am one. One man’s faith is another man’s cult.

    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
    There is no comparison between the 2,000 year old religious foundation of Western & Central Europe vs. 19th century sci-fi/fantasy fan fiction from the kooks of upstate New York.

    If you really believe there is a comparison to be made, then you spent way too much time listening to the Ellis Island narrative pushed in American public schools. Just because some people disliked Catholics for a few decades in the 1800s doesn't mean Catholics need to feel sorry for every bizarre faith that sprouts out of American soil.
    , @Intelligent Dasein
    That is a most un-Catholic thing to say. If you were truly a Catholic you would not be defending bullshit Mormonism, which is a false religion par excellence.
  178. @rod1963
    Those numbers of white men voting for Hillary are terrible. She has no traction among men at least the non-Beta types.

    I can see those who work for the state and federal gov't supporting her since she promises explosive growth of government services.

    I doubt the rank & file government employees will benefit from either Trump or Clinton. Bill Climton shrank the federal workforce, and even Obama signed a two year pay freeze back when the Dems still controlled Congress. Oddly enough, the best administrations for federal worker pay and benefits in the last several decades were Bush I and Bush II.

  179. @EriK
    The only time I was in Milwaukee was about 20 years ago, friends and I went on a Miller Brewer tour, caught a Brewers game (County Stadium!) and stopped in at a strip club. The only blacks I remember seeing were some on the baseball field and one, er, dancer.

    It was 29 years ago for me, the next-to-last stop on a summer trip with my rotisserie league buddies that we called The Rust Belt Tour, 1987. NY (both parks), Philly, Pittsburgh, Detroit, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Chicago (both), Milwaukee and Minnesota. Old County Stadium was the cheapest venue; I think we paid $5 for crap seats and ended up moving to boxes right behind the visiting dugout, as I think there were about 10,000 fans in attendance.

    What sticks out was how white the city was compared to the other places we’d been and the fact that, for $1.50, you had a choice of 5 different beers that they poured right at your seat.

    We were all newly married, so we didn’t feel the need to hit the strip joints. They’d be the first stop now!

  180. @415 reasons
    It's over. The bump in the polls came during the convention when people heard what Trump actually has to say and not non-stop attack ads disguised as news reports. And the shy Tory effect wasn't enough to prevent him from taking a lead then. Does the media put their finger on the scale when taking the polls? Probably a little, but not enough to account for a 7 point lead in the polls.

    Even if Trump were to win it wouldn't make a difference in the long run. We can't elect a new media, or make the grown ups in this country start acting like grown ups again. It's a long slow slog to the bottom, and a four year holding action wouldn't change the end of the story. Voters in this country are a pack of fickle mush heads who believe a bunch of bullshit about our glorious rainbow future instead of their own lying eyes. We deserve what's in store for us.

    I agree the voters are spastic; but the media does slant the polling. LA times had a poll a week before the recall election. Poll said recall fails and Bustamonte was the first pick but it don’t make any difference. On their web site, they posted the particulars of the poll. That they couldn’t reach enough Asians so they assumed they would vote the same as the NAM’s. We know how that turned out….

    Trump isn’t running against H, he’s running against the MSM.

  181. @anon
    Well, Mitt Romney is probably the least hucksterish, least wacko person to ever run. Did you vote for him? I bet you didn't. I bet the media managed to scare you away from voting for him because they told you he was going to take away your birth control and give you cancer.

    Let's not pretend there's any more to it than that, OK?

    Bain Capital what more needs to be said about hucksterism?

  182. @Anonymous Nephew
    OT, but the Rio women's marathon has an air of Idiocracy about it. The watering arrangements are chaotic (placing a bottle immediately before a metal post so you'll break a wrist if you snatch it on the run, athletes having to stop) and they have sets of mist sprayers on the route to cool the athletes in the noon sun. There's a breeze, the sprayers are on only one side of the road, and as the girls sweat past they can watch the mist spray drifting away from the road, none of it landing on the runners.

    The runners did benefit from the heavy police presence on the course to chase away or swarm the protesters, fans and others getting over the barriers. No word on whether those were Hungarian and Macedonian mercenaries.

  183. @E. Rekshun
    OT: WaPo, 08/14/16 - Marion Christopher Barry, son of former D.C. mayor, has died

    Marion Christopher Barry, son of the late D.C. mayor Marion Barry and former candidate for the Ward 8 council seat, has died, according to relatives and news reports. He was 36. The younger Barry died of an apparent drug overdose, according to reports. His girlfriend found him, and he was taken to George Washington University Hospital.

    Barry had struggled with drug use. He ran unsuccessfully for the Ward 8 council seat last year after his father died. Barry had brushes with the law, including charges related to an alleged outburst at a Chinatown bank branch...
     

    There is a Marion Barry quality to the current Hillary campaign. Look at how he was Mr. Cocaine and got re-elected.
    How much more does she have to do to make people finally not want to vote for her? What does a vote for her in spite of all the evidence, and more to come, say about her followers?

    • Replies: @pepperinmono
    Agree.
    While Trump is certainly not perfect, no one could stand the scrutiny he is getting.
    His own party is largely abandoning him. And , as Steve has pointed out, his positions are unradical and common sense. Amazingly , he is within striking distance still.
    Hillary is possibly the most vile human being to run for president ever. She is the unqualified one.
    If she wins , it says more about America than Trump.
  184. If Muslims are the strongest supporters of Trump (every nut screaming,”Allahu Ackbar” and committing an atrocity raises the number of Trump voters), then BLM are his backup crew.

    If the American people can’t see what a ghastly mistake it would be to elect Hillary, despite the stream of MSM misinformation, they deserve the country they will get. It’s just unfortunate the rest of us have to ride in the same boat they’re allowing fools to drill holes in.

  185. @ic1000
    html strikethrough start is [strike] and end is [/strike]. Replace "[" with "<" etc.
    Thus [strike]strikethrough[/strike] becomes strikethrough.

    Thanks. Why did I think it was [s]?

    Man, I’ve had a couple of good strikesthrough that I’ve wanted to use–particularly when I correct Steve’s grammar and style.

  186. @Hibernian
    Some people say the same thing about Catholics, of whom I am one. One man's faith is another man's cult.

    There is no comparison between the 2,000 year old religious foundation of Western & Central Europe vs. 19th century sci-fi/fantasy fan fiction from the kooks of upstate New York.

    If you really believe there is a comparison to be made, then you spent way too much time listening to the Ellis Island narrative pushed in American public schools. Just because some people disliked Catholics for a few decades in the 1800s doesn’t mean Catholics need to feel sorry for every bizarre faith that sprouts out of American soil.

    • Replies: @yaqub the mad scientist
    Also, one can't forget that Catholicism was the establishment church of Europe and still made the vast majority of Europe's population. In the wider context of the Europe that British settlers came from, Catholicism still loomed as a formidable opponent.
    Considering that Britain had to fight Catholic rule in the 17th century, it's hardly surprising a wariness was there when Irish/German immigration came to settle amongst British-descended people.
    Also notable were how the 17th and 18th centuries saw an influx into the colonies of Protestant sects such as Huguenots and German Anabaptist groups that had been treated pretty roughly by the Catholic majorities where they came from.
  187. I bet that there’s no giant rodents on any Trump golf course!

    Yes just got off the phone with a generally moderate gun owning friend who will vote for Clinton. He married a Columbian woman and thinks Trump is anti-Latino.

    Unz’s columnist Freed Reed is probably likewise.

    Why can’t the GOP run someone credible who is not a huckster or religious wacko like Cruz?

    That is a very naive thing to say. Get ith it, we live in changing historical timmes. The GOP is the GOPe, populated by hucksters. The GOPe’s going the way of the Whig Party.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    He married a Columbian woman and thinks Trump is anti-Latino.

    He married a Columbian woman ...

    and now the rest of the story...

    and is being browbeaten to emigrate her entire extended family to the USA on his dime.
  188. @candid_observer
    Yeah, I do wonder how large the Shy "Worse than a Nazi!!" vote might be in this election.

    Probably bigger than it's ever been.

    There is no consistent partisan bias in US polling. In the UK, however, there has for decades been an anti-Tory bias in polling. The polling miss for Brexit was 6 points, predicting a 2 point loss when it won by 4 points. A miss that large is typical in the UK, very rare in the USA.

    For this election, I think Trump will likely outperform the polls by about 2%.

    He is not building a large turnout operation the way every major party candidate on both sides has for decades. For this reason I also would not be surprised if he does worse than the polling.

    Partly offsetting this is the fact there are well-funded Republican Senators running for reelection in a lot of swing states who are working to boost turnout.

    Yet another unknown factor are all the voter ID laws and various other efforts by state republicans parties to make it harder for poor and young people to vote. We do not even know right now which ones will apply. North Carolina and Texas look like they won’t be able to enforce new voter ID laws. Wisconsin’s also looked like it would be blocked in court, but the state GOP got lucky and on appeal was assigned to a three-conservative 7th Circuit panel which unblocked it.

    We also got lucky that the Virginia Supreme Court voted 4-3 to block the attempt by democrats to restore the vote to 206,000 felons. Assume that 30% of them vote and go 75-25 for Hillary, and that is a net gain of 31,000 votes. That is worth about 0.8% of the total presidential election vote in the state.

  189. @Jefferson
    Wisconsin German voters are still going to help Hildabeast win that state in November. Germans dislike Negro riots, but Germans dislike Donald Trump way more.

    Jefferson! Homeboy! I lived on Bernhard Place. Brings back memories. I had to teach my wife how to tell the difference between firecrackers and gunshots. I also had to tell her not to open the shades and look out the window “to see what was going on” (!!). My response: “you really don’t want to know.”

    Most of the ghetto trouble used to be south of Burleigh and east of Sherman. Has the line shifted?

  190. @Lot
    Bangladeshi and Pakistani immigration is especially dangerous for our future because they are crowded, extremely poor, disease-ridden, backward, low-IQ and Muslim countries with 172 million and 202 million people, respectively. More people than the USA and Canada combined.

    Right now we do not get many of their non-elite populations simply because there is no critical mass here already for illegals to blend into, provide arrival housing, and loan money for their airfare with remittances.

    When that critical mass happens though, we are doomed. It happened with El Salvador, Somalia, Cuba, Dominican Republican, and Philippines.

    The picture is especially depressing because it shows the type of South Asians we have to fear, not the pleasant computer programmers, motel owners, or doctors that make up so many of them historically, and who quickly spread out, blend in and have low fertility.

    Instead the picture shows angry, dumb-faced inbreds who gather in the street to shout about how much they hate racist Old Americans.

    Stating the obvious by they are waging demographic warfare once the get their beachheads and critical mass in the United States. If US citizens then they are marrying native Bangladeshis and legally bringing them in here and being well compensated by the native Bangladeshi family because now they have an immigration beachhead into the United States. The UK Pakistanis have this all down to a science. Then add in all the clannishness and inbreeding due to cousin marriage.

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/a-demographic-theory-of-war/article/15288
    A Demographic Theory of War
    Population, power, and the ‘slightly weird’ ideas of Gunnar Heinsohn.
    11:00 PM, Oct 04, 2007 | By Clark Whelton

    “LOOK AT IT THIS WAY,” Gunnar Heinsohn said. “Your family is in a shooting war with a family across the street. Your forces consist of a father, mother and one child, perhaps two. The other family has a father, mother and seven children, perhaps eight or nine. For your family, the loss of one person would be devastating. The larger family can take casualties and continue fighting.”

    We were in London, having coffee before a Jane’s Cityforum conference on “Defense to 2020 and Beyond.”
    “My point,” Heinsohn continued, “is that the strength of a nation’s military is affected by the size of a nation’s families. Falling birth rates in Western countries mean that even light casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan bring cries of pain in Europe and America. But Iraq and Afghanistan are growing rapidly. Their populations are swollen by youth bulges. Their average family has five or six children. They are in what I call ‘extreme demographic armament.’”

  191. Yet another unknown factor are all the voter ID laws and various other efforts by state republicans parties to make it harder for poor and young people to vote.

    Make it harder for poor and young people to vote? That is tiresome, obvious Leftist propaganda.

    I’ll assume you’re trolling.

    • Agree: Kylie
  192. @Ivy
    There is a Marion Barry quality to the current Hillary campaign. Look at how he was Mr. Cocaine and got re-elected.
    How much more does she have to do to make people finally not want to vote for her? What does a vote for her in spite of all the evidence, and more to come, say about her followers?

    Agree.
    While Trump is certainly not perfect, no one could stand the scrutiny he is getting.
    His own party is largely abandoning him. And , as Steve has pointed out, his positions are unradical and common sense. Amazingly , he is within striking distance still.
    Hillary is possibly the most vile human being to run for president ever. She is the unqualified one.
    If she wins , it says more about America than Trump.

  193. @S. Anonyia
    There is no comparison between the 2,000 year old religious foundation of Western & Central Europe vs. 19th century sci-fi/fantasy fan fiction from the kooks of upstate New York.

    If you really believe there is a comparison to be made, then you spent way too much time listening to the Ellis Island narrative pushed in American public schools. Just because some people disliked Catholics for a few decades in the 1800s doesn't mean Catholics need to feel sorry for every bizarre faith that sprouts out of American soil.

    Also, one can’t forget that Catholicism was the establishment church of Europe and still made the vast majority of Europe’s population. In the wider context of the Europe that British settlers came from, Catholicism still loomed as a formidable opponent.
    Considering that Britain had to fight Catholic rule in the 17th century, it’s hardly surprising a wariness was there when Irish/German immigration came to settle amongst British-descended people.
    Also notable were how the 17th and 18th centuries saw an influx into the colonies of Protestant sects such as Huguenots and German Anabaptist groups that had been treated pretty roughly by the Catholic majorities where they came from.

  194. @Inquiring Mind

    Black Lives Matter should be officially regarded as a black cult.
     
    On the subject of cults, any insights into the persons standing in pedestrian "islands" of major streets holding up "Homeless, please help" signs?

    Not only have I noticed that every street corner of the major intersections features one of these Sign People, but our Radical Mayor-for-Life of Wisconsin's People's Republic (just up I-94 from Milwaukee) is "noticing" the same thing. Turns out that the People's Republic had an anti-panhandling ordinance that was struck down by a Federal judge (there is no professional courtesy among SJW's?). This was 3 months ago, and since then, these Sign People seem to have appeared out of nowhere to stand vigil in intersections.

    Radical Mayor is not just noticing, he is spitting pins over this, or at least he is showing as much agitation as an aging Radical from the 60's with the low-energy affect of a chronic heart condition is able to muster. He is lobbying his City Council to pass a broader replacement ordinance to work around the First Amendment concerns of the Federal judge by making it about "traffic safety", he is castigating the homelessness advocates who are opposing this along with the City Council that is slow walking it, and he is calling the Sign People "grifters."

    "Grifters" suggest people acting on their individual initiative to cash on the lucrative panhandling trade that is now legal.

    I am wondering if the Sign People belong to a cult? None of them have the look of major mental illness, alcohol use, and malnutrition of the Downtown street people. They kind of look like the people serving as marshals when President Obama comes to town to give a speech. They kind of look like Hollywood actors where they take short-statured actors in their late 20's and early 30's and have them play teen characters. The look to have padded on some "grime makeup" and dressed down to look like a popular conception of a homeless person. With regard to my cult theory, the Sign People all look fake in the same way.

    The other thing is that some local reporter "went undercover" to work one of these street corners and found that begging could rake in a lot of money, but it seems like a lot of hard work to stand in one spot with a sign for hours in the heat and humidity that has been our summer this year. My cult theory is that there is some Jim Jones guy who calls upon his followers to do this as part of showing fealty, he rakes in the "skim" from the begging, but it is not about the money but rather part of the hazing ritual to belong to the cult to stand on the street?

    Again, the amount of money would not motivate me to undergo the hardship, but were I in a cult, the social acceptance angle could motivate me. Any insights into what could be going on?

    Interesting theory.

    The Calvinists have just returned from a holiday that included a visit to Vancouver, BC, and we were amazed at the number of panhandlers throughout that city. Lots of them were indeed in their 20s and 30s, and didn’t have that look charateristic of long-term street life.

  195. Lots of them were indeed in their 20s and 30s, and didn’t have that look charateristic of long-term street life.

    Maybe they were only doing the Vancouver street life thing for the summer. When school starts in two or three weeks, they’ll be back at college or back at their school teacher jobs.

  196. @Inquiring Mind

    Black Lives Matter should be officially regarded as a black cult.
     
    On the subject of cults, any insights into the persons standing in pedestrian "islands" of major streets holding up "Homeless, please help" signs?

    Not only have I noticed that every street corner of the major intersections features one of these Sign People, but our Radical Mayor-for-Life of Wisconsin's People's Republic (just up I-94 from Milwaukee) is "noticing" the same thing. Turns out that the People's Republic had an anti-panhandling ordinance that was struck down by a Federal judge (there is no professional courtesy among SJW's?). This was 3 months ago, and since then, these Sign People seem to have appeared out of nowhere to stand vigil in intersections.

    Radical Mayor is not just noticing, he is spitting pins over this, or at least he is showing as much agitation as an aging Radical from the 60's with the low-energy affect of a chronic heart condition is able to muster. He is lobbying his City Council to pass a broader replacement ordinance to work around the First Amendment concerns of the Federal judge by making it about "traffic safety", he is castigating the homelessness advocates who are opposing this along with the City Council that is slow walking it, and he is calling the Sign People "grifters."

    "Grifters" suggest people acting on their individual initiative to cash on the lucrative panhandling trade that is now legal.

    I am wondering if the Sign People belong to a cult? None of them have the look of major mental illness, alcohol use, and malnutrition of the Downtown street people. They kind of look like the people serving as marshals when President Obama comes to town to give a speech. They kind of look like Hollywood actors where they take short-statured actors in their late 20's and early 30's and have them play teen characters. The look to have padded on some "grime makeup" and dressed down to look like a popular conception of a homeless person. With regard to my cult theory, the Sign People all look fake in the same way.

    The other thing is that some local reporter "went undercover" to work one of these street corners and found that begging could rake in a lot of money, but it seems like a lot of hard work to stand in one spot with a sign for hours in the heat and humidity that has been our summer this year. My cult theory is that there is some Jim Jones guy who calls upon his followers to do this as part of showing fealty, he rakes in the "skim" from the begging, but it is not about the money but rather part of the hazing ritual to belong to the cult to stand on the street?

    Again, the amount of money would not motivate me to undergo the hardship, but were I in a cult, the social acceptance angle could motivate me. Any insights into what could be going on?

    I live in a major west coast city and there have been plenty of sign people on the meridians of major arteries near stop lights or at the foot of off-ramps from freeways. I think it is just one of a bunch of urban panhandling strategies.

    I did find it amusing that one time when I was driving down one of those arteries at the end of the afternoon, one of the sign people was knocking off “work” and pulled out a cell phone to (presumably) call the wife. At the time I didn’t even own a cell phone, but here was a panhandler with one. I assumed he must be making good money.

  197. @Jefferson
    Out in the Midwestern Wisconsin town of Milwaukee, I fell in love with a rioting African American girl.
    https://youtu.be/2bwoGbpYXRw

    Good one, Jefferson. Mudsharking – aka jungle fever – has been all the rage in alcohol-drenched Wisconsin for a couple of decades now. The sex and race of those involved is almost always White female, Black male.

    It’s how disgruntled mothers stick a lethal shiv -the end of daddy’s gene lines – into their husbands/paramours. Not just in Wisconsin, but anywhere mudsharking is observed.

  198. @Chrisnonymous
    If he was running away, it's possibly a bad shoot. I can't justify in my mind shooting at the torso or head of someone with their back turned who's trying to escape from me. On the other hand, if he was hit in the chest, I doubt he was fleeing.

    Either way, the rioting isn't justified.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_v._Garner#See_also

    Deadly force may only be used on a fleeing felon when the danger to the community outweighs the defendant’s 4th Amendment rights (ie. armed and dangerous).

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    Deadly force may only be used on a fleeing felon when the danger to the community outweighs the defendant’s 4th Amendment rights (ie. armed and dangerous).
     
    What a hilarious tautology!
    , @Chrisnonymous
    I'm not arguing what the law says. It's possible for the law to be wrong.

    The acceptability of using deadly force against a felon fleeing due process stems from the rationale that due process can end in capital punishment. Essentially, by fleeing, the felon de facto voluntarily gives up the right to due process. I also oppose capital punishment except in the cases of heinous crimes where the evidence is overwhelming.

    The "protection of the officer or community" standard is all right, but as I have pointed out before, missing from these discussions is numbers. What is the probability that a person with a gun fleeing an officer will shoot at the officer or another person? I don't accept that mere possibility is an acceptable rationale for deadly force.
  199. @yowza
    Not doing anything will only make it the norm, as it has now become thanks to Obama and Eric Holder's sociopath ways. Now they're doing it whenever they feel like it. They all think they're in a Quintin Tarantino movie.

    Bringing in the National Guard, give fair warning, and letting them shoot at will until the streets are clear would bring better long-term results.

    Politically, the National Guard will always be far more popular than domestic black terrorists.

    You probably couldn’t get the National Guard to fire on rioters anymore unless they were under direct attack. They’ve had the same indoctrination as everyone else. Does anyone in the NG want to be the next Darren Wilson or George Zimmerman? Message has been sent and received.

  200. @Inquiring Mind

    Black Lives Matter should be officially regarded as a black cult.
     
    On the subject of cults, any insights into the persons standing in pedestrian "islands" of major streets holding up "Homeless, please help" signs?

    Not only have I noticed that every street corner of the major intersections features one of these Sign People, but our Radical Mayor-for-Life of Wisconsin's People's Republic (just up I-94 from Milwaukee) is "noticing" the same thing. Turns out that the People's Republic had an anti-panhandling ordinance that was struck down by a Federal judge (there is no professional courtesy among SJW's?). This was 3 months ago, and since then, these Sign People seem to have appeared out of nowhere to stand vigil in intersections.

    Radical Mayor is not just noticing, he is spitting pins over this, or at least he is showing as much agitation as an aging Radical from the 60's with the low-energy affect of a chronic heart condition is able to muster. He is lobbying his City Council to pass a broader replacement ordinance to work around the First Amendment concerns of the Federal judge by making it about "traffic safety", he is castigating the homelessness advocates who are opposing this along with the City Council that is slow walking it, and he is calling the Sign People "grifters."

    "Grifters" suggest people acting on their individual initiative to cash on the lucrative panhandling trade that is now legal.

    I am wondering if the Sign People belong to a cult? None of them have the look of major mental illness, alcohol use, and malnutrition of the Downtown street people. They kind of look like the people serving as marshals when President Obama comes to town to give a speech. They kind of look like Hollywood actors where they take short-statured actors in their late 20's and early 30's and have them play teen characters. The look to have padded on some "grime makeup" and dressed down to look like a popular conception of a homeless person. With regard to my cult theory, the Sign People all look fake in the same way.

    The other thing is that some local reporter "went undercover" to work one of these street corners and found that begging could rake in a lot of money, but it seems like a lot of hard work to stand in one spot with a sign for hours in the heat and humidity that has been our summer this year. My cult theory is that there is some Jim Jones guy who calls upon his followers to do this as part of showing fealty, he rakes in the "skim" from the begging, but it is not about the money but rather part of the hazing ritual to belong to the cult to stand on the street?

    Again, the amount of money would not motivate me to undergo the hardship, but were I in a cult, the social acceptance angle could motivate me. Any insights into what could be going on?

    I’ve seen this in my town too. When I exit the supermarket parking lot, there’s usually a girl standing there, begging, where you have to wait for the light to change. She’s probably in her 20s, slim, fairly attractive, a little grubby like a hippie. Always smiles. Has a small backpack and bottled water. Not sure what to make of her–a drug addict or cult member? More wholesome looking than a streetwalker.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    I hear that Uptown in Chicago where I used to live is full of homeless people. You can't walk to the lake on Lawrence anymore because it's wall to wall homeless tents under Lake Shore Drive.

    By the way, homeless people have more gear than they used to. For example, they have nice air mattresses these days. The guy who sleeps in front of the library in my neighborhood has a pretty nice camping setup and is peeved if you make noise walking by after 9pm because he is comfortably sacked out by then.
    , @yaqub the mad scientist
    I traveled with chicks like that for years-though I wouldn't run with any who panhandled- had my standards. A lot of them were just slumming. Most of them were pretty OK- makes jewelry, smokes pot, maybe does other psychedelics, health conscious. A few slip by the wayside and get pretty street and into the substances, but most never graduate to anything bad. Quite a few turn into the bourgeois hipster gentrification queens after they've earned their cred. You know the drill.
  201. @Curle
    Hardly, Mormonism is nothing but hucksterism and wacko-ism, accepted by normal people only because we've been bullied into acceptance of lunatic religious cults over the last thirty years in the name of 'tolerance.'

    For the record, Jos Smith was con man who robbed people of their money and perved out on underage women who weren't his wife claiming them as his 'spirit wives.' He was killed at the hands of an angry mob composed of some of the fathers of these women seeking retribution. The attempt by the Mormon Church to sanitize this guy and make him a victim is every bit as fraudulent as what the media does today with regard to Black behaviors. The Mormon Church hides most of this stuff from its followers but Romney had to know and stuck with the group anyway. He spent his missionary years trying to convert Catholics in France to his cult.

    For those whose forefathers were Christians, it is worth noting that from the beginning Christians sought t0 expose this spurious fraud. The Presbyterians were particularly admirable in this regard. They failed, but at least they didn't try and normalize it by nominating one of Smith's loony acolytes to the highest job in the land as the hapless Republicans did.

    Hardly, Mormonism is nothing but hucksterism and wacko-ism

    Non-elite Anglos in the eastern cities were being pushed out by immigration – some guys created and led an exodus. Genetically speaking it was a great success – like religion often is when it’s concentrated among a particular ethnic group.

  202. @Arclight
    The boredom and disregard for law an order used to mostly confine itself to black on black crime with occasional instances of "wilding" but BLM and the media have given urban blacks the green light to lash out at symbols identified with whites. We are entering a new era in which race-motivated destruction of property and violence is characterized as a justified reaction by the group least likely to adhere to cultural norms that produce relative social stability.

    I am not sure how President Hilary will deal with all this - on the one hand, she has to mouth the obligatory slogans about systemic injustices and so on. However, she has never seemed to be someone who really cares about blacks or their issues and is just going through the motions in her pandering - to the point of absurdity like her comment on black radio that she carries hot sauce in her purse. She seems to be law and order in her mentality and more likely to emphasize the need to restore basic public safety rather than take the Obama approach of tacitly legitimizing BLM.

    She is headed towards a blowout election and won't owe blacks for it the way she might have if it were close.

    Heading to get blown out, you mean. Assuming she can even make it to Election Day.

  203. anon • Disclaimer says:

    Trump should attack the media over their incitement of racial conflict.

    If you had a picture of eight faces: two rows of four, then the true version of police shootings would be c. 4 white, 2 black, 1 hispanic, 1 other.

    The media’s picture has 8 black faces.

    It’s not remotely surprising that black people are rioting given the way the media are reporting it.

    If he played it right he could flip both the black and white anger onto the media.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "The media’s picture has 8 black faces."

    Didn't you know that cops only kill Whites and other Nonblacks in Hollywood films and television shows. In real life cops only kill Blacks.

    If John McClane was a real life police officer, he would have just let Hans Gruber off with a written warning and not killed the guy.
  204. @granesperanzablanco
    I'm a white (mostly) male voting for Hillary. If the GOP had nominated someone less repugnant than Trump or Cruz I would have voted GOP

    Status quo isn't so bad for me

    Status quo isn’t so bad for me

    It’s not so bad for most of us. We’re just not totally self-centered and care about our less fortunate countrymen.

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    It’s not so bad for most of us. We’re just not totally self-centered and care about our less fortunate countrymen.
     
    That's part of it, but it's also a matter of our not discounting the value of the future to zero.
    , @granesperanzablanco
    We just have differing opinions but I care as well. Mine is a Trump does not understand the constitution and would be ineffectual at best and it could be much worse.

    Clinton is the same old
  205. @415 reasons
    It's over. The bump in the polls came during the convention when people heard what Trump actually has to say and not non-stop attack ads disguised as news reports. And the shy Tory effect wasn't enough to prevent him from taking a lead then. Does the media put their finger on the scale when taking the polls? Probably a little, but not enough to account for a 7 point lead in the polls.

    Even if Trump were to win it wouldn't make a difference in the long run. We can't elect a new media, or make the grown ups in this country start acting like grown ups again. It's a long slow slog to the bottom, and a four year holding action wouldn't change the end of the story. Voters in this country are a pack of fickle mush heads who believe a bunch of bullshit about our glorious rainbow future instead of their own lying eyes. We deserve what's in store for us.

    Polls are meaningless. Completely manipulated to boost The Agenda:

    https://i.reddituploads.com/6696e4832aa841729f233fd9ffc90c69?fit=max&h=1536&w=1536&s=3a132445e4ff97e407761c0b8f832838

    Compare crowd photos from Trump rallies to those from Clinton rallies. Any state.

  206. @Hibernian
    Some people say the same thing about Catholics, of whom I am one. One man's faith is another man's cult.

    That is a most un-Catholic thing to say. If you were truly a Catholic you would not be defending bullshit Mormonism, which is a false religion par excellence.

    • Replies: @anon
    Populations need a blue print for cultural health and a set of official or unofficial priests who promote and uphold it - most often a religion is used for this but not always e.g. Confucianism.

    Mormonism adopted the late Victorian Anglican / Methodist blue print - which in terms of cultural outcomes is/was probably one of the best so far in human history.

    For people who care about cultural health whatever quibbles they might have over some aspects of the religion *ought* to pale in comparison to how Mormons (and to some extent groups like the Amish as well) preserved that cultural blue print as a healthy example - especially in comparison to the current media promoted blue print which is distilled cultural poison.

    It being a relatively healthy example of NW Euro social culture of c. 100 years ago and thus comparing so favorably with the pozzed culture we live in now is one of the reasons it comes under attack.
  207. @Harry Baldwin
    I've seen this in my town too. When I exit the supermarket parking lot, there's usually a girl standing there, begging, where you have to wait for the light to change. She's probably in her 20s, slim, fairly attractive, a little grubby like a hippie. Always smiles. Has a small backpack and bottled water. Not sure what to make of her--a drug addict or cult member? More wholesome looking than a streetwalker.

    I hear that Uptown in Chicago where I used to live is full of homeless people. You can’t walk to the lake on Lawrence anymore because it’s wall to wall homeless tents under Lake Shore Drive.

    By the way, homeless people have more gear than they used to. For example, they have nice air mattresses these days. The guy who sleeps in front of the library in my neighborhood has a pretty nice camping setup and is peeved if you make noise walking by after 9pm because he is comfortably sacked out by then.

    • Replies: @anon

    I hear that Uptown in Chicago where I used to live is full of homeless people.
     
    Another side effect of the mass importation of cheap labor.
  208. @Dr. X

    If I were Obama, I’d play 36 holes on Sunday and hope all the fires were finally out by the time I got off the course.
     
    No you wouldn't. You'd run to the nearest camera and give an impromptu lecture to the public on how we need more gun control and more Federal oversight of the police to make them more sensitive to the needs of minorities. And then, stuttering "I-I-I...I-I-I-I" and "N-N-N-Now, let me be clear..." you'd find a way to blame Trump and the "politics of hate."

    “That’s not who we are”

  209. @yowza
    This riot seems more crazy than the last few. Black women particularly are off the hook. Black Lives Matter should be officially regarded as a black cult. Almost every video I've watched so far, I can hear a black woman screaming like she's the subject in a voo doc ceremony. The black men are generally far less hyper:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSWo4eDJghs

    This isn’t black lives matter. Black lives matter is mostly loser white kids. The BLM thing at the DNC in Philly was almost entirely white, it was so white that blacks didn’t want to come out and join in, because there were too many white people. Even the sow on the megaphone in the back of the pickup truck started yelling at the crowd and telling the white people to stay at the back and go home, it was hilarious.

    No these people are not BLM, they are simply belligerent blacks waiting for a chance to loot and riot.

  210. @Ripple Earthdevil
    I live in Berserkeley not far from People's Park and 45+ years later it's still a pit full of human pathology. Less riff-raff right on Telegraph these days but the homeless population underneath freeway overpasses in the East Bay has exploded in the past year.

    Housing is unaffordable. Rent is unaffordable. Corporate workers, academics, goverment workers, business owners, and the “non-working” classes can all “afford” (even if its at an unsustainable price) housing because capitol is is going from the banks directly to them. And housing is #1 on their payment priority.
    The people of the secondary economy, the working class, the people who work for wages and salary, those people can not afford housing.

    http://la.curbed.com/2015/12/10/9892338/los-angeles-rent-burden-most-unaffordable

    This article is saying that 58% of renters in LA are spending more than 30% of their income on rent. I think you could extrapolate that to the rest of the country in aggregate.
    You could make the argument that the creators of wealth are smarter and more talented than the working class and thus they deserve the flow of capitol, which is absolutely true. But I counter that with the fact that something is fundamentally wrong with the economy. Something is fundamentally wrong when the working class is spending so much on housing that they can’t create savings. What is the solution to just let the working class die off, or wither into atrophy? What are the moral implications of allowing that while preserving the privaledged “non-working” classes and various goverment classes.

    • Replies: @anon

    You could make the argument that the creators of wealth are smarter and more talented than the working class and thus they deserve the flow of capitol, which is absolutely true.
     
    The people creating the problem aren't wealth creators - the financial sector is currently 90% parasitic.

    That's always been partly true but in the past regulation kept it down to a minimum - say 20% parasitic - but from the 1980s onwards the banking mafia bribed the politicians into gradually removing all the barriers to the parasitic aspect.
  211. @candid_observer
    OT, but one of our Overlords has finally come out and said it:

    https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/764550001888530433

    I just hate Democracy so so much!

    If I could go back in time and undo Democracy? I would.

    I just hate Democracy so so much!

    If I could go back in time and undo Democracy? I would.

    We don’t have democracy, as your comment demonstrates.

  212. @granesperanzablanco
    I assume status quo continues. the point of the Trump phenomena is rejecting the status quo. Every aggrieved white person is projecting all their hopes on this grifter like character.

    I assume status quo continues. the point of the Trump phenomena is rejecting the status quo. Every aggrieved white person is projecting all their hopes on this grifter like character.

    We KNOW that the other candidate will sell/destroy our children’s inheritance. A vote for her is a vote for national destruction. Is that a feature rather than a bug for you?

  213. @Moshe
    Yes RAMZIPAUL because identity politics is what REALLY counts.

    It's not hard to make the argument that a Trump presidency will make the life of a poor white man better than a Clinton presidency would.

    But, unless identity politics is what you're ALL about, it's REALLY not hard to make the argument that a Clinton presidency will make life better for a poor white man than a Trump presidency would.

    RAMZIPAUL - like all of us, including me, is completely ignoring the bread and butter issues that matter like 100 times more than the issues Donald Trump raises - which, we all know, he may not even carry out.

    Morons are invited to argue that it is impossible to make a reasonable case that a white man's life would be easier with a Clinton presidency.

    But, unless identity politics is what you’re ALL about, it’s REALLY not hard to make the argument that a Clinton presidency will make life better for a poor white man than a Trump presidency would.

    Funny then that you didn’t make such an argument. I certainly can’t imagine one.

  214. @SteveRogers42
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_v._Garner#See_also

    Deadly force may only be used on a fleeing felon when the danger to the community outweighs the defendant's 4th Amendment rights (ie. armed and dangerous).

    Deadly force may only be used on a fleeing felon when the danger to the community outweighs the defendant’s 4th Amendment rights (ie. armed and dangerous).

    What a hilarious tautology!

  215. @Broski

    Status quo isn’t so bad for me
     
    It's not so bad for most of us. We're just not totally self-centered and care about our less fortunate countrymen.

    It’s not so bad for most of us. We’re just not totally self-centered and care about our less fortunate countrymen.

    That’s part of it, but it’s also a matter of our not discounting the value of the future to zero.

  216. @Broski

    Status quo isn’t so bad for me
     
    It's not so bad for most of us. We're just not totally self-centered and care about our less fortunate countrymen.

    We just have differing opinions but I care as well. Mine is a Trump does not understand the constitution and would be ineffectual at best and it could be much worse.

    Clinton is the same old

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    And Hillary understands the Constitution? In what way? Ineffectual compared to what we have now is a good thing.
  217. This is right up Steve’s alley: A little more than a year ago, Jeffrey Toobin ran a laudatory piece in the New Yorker praising the new soft-on-crime approach that the bleeding-heart liberal D.A., John Chisholm, had adopted in Milwaukee.

    Shockingly, Toobin and Chisholm haven’t had much to say these past few days about the race riots in that city. But obviously this little experiment didn’t work out too well, given the rapid descent into chaos and disorder.

    Obviously, nobody else in the mainstream press is bothering with a second look at this recent history. In fact, most outlets tend to repeat the usual canards about police oppression of Innocent Black Bodies, and thoroughly ignore Milwaukee’s role as a test-bed for some of the new soft-on-crime policies that are being advanced on a national level.

    https://benkurtzblog.wordpress.com/2016/08/15/the-milwaukee-experiment-one-year-later/

  218. @WorkingClass
    Don't know what happened to the Cheese Heads. They seem to be united in their desire to be governed by the Cock Brothers.

    Or the Coke Brothas…

  219. @Harry Baldwin
    I've seen this in my town too. When I exit the supermarket parking lot, there's usually a girl standing there, begging, where you have to wait for the light to change. She's probably in her 20s, slim, fairly attractive, a little grubby like a hippie. Always smiles. Has a small backpack and bottled water. Not sure what to make of her--a drug addict or cult member? More wholesome looking than a streetwalker.

    I traveled with chicks like that for years-though I wouldn’t run with any who panhandled- had my standards. A lot of them were just slumming. Most of them were pretty OK- makes jewelry, smokes pot, maybe does other psychedelics, health conscious. A few slip by the wayside and get pretty street and into the substances, but most never graduate to anything bad. Quite a few turn into the bourgeois hipster gentrification queens after they’ve earned their cred. You know the drill.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    "I traveled with chicks like that for years-though I wouldn’t run with any who panhandled- had my standards. A lot of them were just slumming...Quite a few turn into the bourgeois hipster gentrification queens after they’ve earned their cred."

    They never earn their cred with real street. I used to encounter girls like that when I was "sleeping rough" as the Brits say. Always enjoyed reaming them a new one, getting them first angry and then tearful, while my buddies applauded me. There were young males who tried slumming, too. We'd con them out of their money and rough them up a little.

    I hated punks and poseurs then and I guess I still hate them.

    N.B. i never got a criminal record, never panhandled and never used or sold dope.
  220. @granesperanzablanco
    I'm a white (mostly) male voting for Hillary. If the GOP had nominated someone less repugnant than Trump or Cruz I would have voted GOP

    Status quo isn't so bad for me

    Status quo isn’t so bad for me

    So how’s the weekend release program working out for you…

  221. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Intelligent Dasein
    That is a most un-Catholic thing to say. If you were truly a Catholic you would not be defending bullshit Mormonism, which is a false religion par excellence.

    Populations need a blue print for cultural health and a set of official or unofficial priests who promote and uphold it – most often a religion is used for this but not always e.g. Confucianism.

    Mormonism adopted the late Victorian Anglican / Methodist blue print – which in terms of cultural outcomes is/was probably one of the best so far in human history.

    For people who care about cultural health whatever quibbles they might have over some aspects of the religion *ought* to pale in comparison to how Mormons (and to some extent groups like the Amish as well) preserved that cultural blue print as a healthy example – especially in comparison to the current media promoted blue print which is distilled cultural poison.

    It being a relatively healthy example of NW Euro social culture of c. 100 years ago and thus comparing so favorably with the pozzed culture we live in now is one of the reasons it comes under attack.

  222. @Steve Sailer
    I hear that Uptown in Chicago where I used to live is full of homeless people. You can't walk to the lake on Lawrence anymore because it's wall to wall homeless tents under Lake Shore Drive.

    By the way, homeless people have more gear than they used to. For example, they have nice air mattresses these days. The guy who sleeps in front of the library in my neighborhood has a pretty nice camping setup and is peeved if you make noise walking by after 9pm because he is comfortably sacked out by then.

    I hear that Uptown in Chicago where I used to live is full of homeless people.

    Another side effect of the mass importation of cheap labor.

  223. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Kyle
    Housing is unaffordable. Rent is unaffordable. Corporate workers, academics, goverment workers, business owners, and the "non-working" classes can all "afford" (even if its at an unsustainable price) housing because capitol is is going from the banks directly to them. And housing is #1 on their payment priority.
    The people of the secondary economy, the working class, the people who work for wages and salary, those people can not afford housing.
    http://la.curbed.com/2015/12/10/9892338/los-angeles-rent-burden-most-unaffordable
    This article is saying that 58% of renters in LA are spending more than 30% of their income on rent. I think you could extrapolate that to the rest of the country in aggregate.
    You could make the argument that the creators of wealth are smarter and more talented than the working class and thus they deserve the flow of capitol, which is absolutely true. But I counter that with the fact that something is fundamentally wrong with the economy. Something is fundamentally wrong when the working class is spending so much on housing that they can't create savings. What is the solution to just let the working class die off, or wither into atrophy? What are the moral implications of allowing that while preserving the privaledged "non-working" classes and various goverment classes.

    You could make the argument that the creators of wealth are smarter and more talented than the working class and thus they deserve the flow of capitol, which is absolutely true.

    The people creating the problem aren’t wealth creators – the financial sector is currently 90% parasitic.

    That’s always been partly true but in the past regulation kept it down to a minimum – say 20% parasitic – but from the 1980s onwards the banking mafia bribed the politicians into gradually removing all the barriers to the parasitic aspect.

  224. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @candid_observer
    OT, but one of our Overlords has finally come out and said it:

    https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/764550001888530433

    I just hate Democracy so so much!

    If I could go back in time and undo Democracy? I would.

    I just hate Democracy so so much! If I could go back in time and undo Democracy? I would.

    We live in a corrupted democracy aka a disguised oligarchy where the oligarchs own and use the media and politicians to get their way indirectly.

    The Bladerunner future we’re headed into where the oligarchs can do what they like directly without having to bother with the democratic facade will be much worse.

    All human institutions will eventually be corrupted by free riders creating a cycle or Kyklos as the ancient Greeks called it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyklos

  225. @anon
    Trump should attack the media over their incitement of racial conflict.

    If you had a picture of eight faces: two rows of four, then the true version of police shootings would be c. 4 white, 2 black, 1 hispanic, 1 other.

    The media's picture has 8 black faces.

    It's not remotely surprising that black people are rioting given the way the media are reporting it.

    If he played it right he could flip both the black and white anger onto the media.

    “The media’s picture has 8 black faces.”

    Didn’t you know that cops only kill Whites and other Nonblacks in Hollywood films and television shows. In real life cops only kill Blacks.

    If John McClane was a real life police officer, he would have just let Hans Gruber off with a written warning and not killed the guy.

    • Replies: @anon
    The media in Europe is even worse - they don't literally state that only black people are killed this way but they do everything they can to imply it.

    The black reaction to the media's false narrative isn't irrational - the false narrative is to blame.
  226. @Jefferson
    "The media’s picture has 8 black faces."

    Didn't you know that cops only kill Whites and other Nonblacks in Hollywood films and television shows. In real life cops only kill Blacks.

    If John McClane was a real life police officer, he would have just let Hans Gruber off with a written warning and not killed the guy.

    The media in Europe is even worse – they don’t literally state that only black people are killed this way but they do everything they can to imply it.

    The black reaction to the media’s false narrative isn’t irrational – the false narrative is to blame.

  227. @David Davenport
    I bet that there's no giant rodents on any Trump golf course!

    Yes just got off the phone with a generally moderate gun owning friend who will vote for Clinton. He married a Columbian woman and thinks Trump is anti-Latino.

    Unz's columnist Freed Reed is probably likewise.

    Why can’t the GOP run someone credible who is not a huckster or religious wacko like Cruz?

    That is a very naive thing to say. Get ith it, we live in changing historical timmes. The GOP is the GOPe, populated by hucksters. The GOPe's going the way of the Whig Party.

    He married a Columbian woman and thinks Trump is anti-Latino.

    He married a Columbian woman …

    and now the rest of the story…

    and is being browbeaten to emigrate her entire extended family to the USA on his dime.

  228. @granesperanzablanco
    We just have differing opinions but I care as well. Mine is a Trump does not understand the constitution and would be ineffectual at best and it could be much worse.

    Clinton is the same old

    And Hillary understands the Constitution? In what way? Ineffectual compared to what we have now is a good thing.

  229. @SFG
    I wonder how many of those are closeted Trump voters. I expect him to see a surprise jump in the polls on Election Day.

    Enough to save him, I don't know.

    Be of good cheer!

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    Be of YUGE cheer:

    http://www.latimes.com/politics/

    An aside to the weak sisters out there: stiffen up those spines!
  230. @inertial
    Yesterday night I look at news headlines on my phone and see a photo of a rising column of flame with the caption: "Volcano erupts in Milwaukee."

    WHAT???

    Then I look closer: "Violence erupts in Milwaukee." Oh. Right.

    They really should stop using words like "erupts" unless it's an actual geological event. My eyes are not what they used to be, and for a second there I thought that the end of the world is nigh.

    It’s always the passive voice: “Violence erupts”, “the gun went off”, “mistakes were made.” Just some amorphous third-party agency that reduces us all to mere victims of inexorable fate.

  231. @schmenz
    I'm afraid you're right. There's an old joke-saying in Milwaukee which goes something like this: (add European accent) "My great-grandaddy voted Democrat, my granddaddy voted Democrat, my daddy voted Democrat and I'M voting Democrat".

    And - joy of joys - I live three minutes from the scene of Milwaukee's terrorism last night.

    Sight picture. Breath control. Press.

  232. @Percy Gryce
    Has Ron enabled the html strikethrough tag ?

    I have no idea. Let’s see … [del] replace square brackets with angle ones [/del].
    Yup. That works. Now to get out of here in under 5 mins …
    There’s no charge, just leave a consideration in Steve’s tip jar :¬)

  233. @Curle
    Not just the black underclass, did you read the comments of the poster, one Sarah Nyberg, whom by her last name certainly sounds European by descent? This lady does the following math:
    1) death of fleeing black suspect carrying weapon; 2) this occurs in open carry state; 3) therefore the death must be murder by racism. No mention of ignored orders to drop the weapon which I gather is irrelevant to her worldview.

    Pssttt … “Sarah” is a guy. Pass it on.
    Born Nicholas Nyberg in Madison WI. Brianna Wu-type Gamergate drama queen and general halfwitted nuisance.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/09/11/leading-gamergate-critic-sarah-nyberg-claimed-to-be-a-pedophile-apologised-for-white-nationalism/

    Check out its front page of g00gl3 hits. Tells you pretty much the whole story.

  234. @yaqub the mad scientist
    I traveled with chicks like that for years-though I wouldn't run with any who panhandled- had my standards. A lot of them were just slumming. Most of them were pretty OK- makes jewelry, smokes pot, maybe does other psychedelics, health conscious. A few slip by the wayside and get pretty street and into the substances, but most never graduate to anything bad. Quite a few turn into the bourgeois hipster gentrification queens after they've earned their cred. You know the drill.

    “I traveled with chicks like that for years-though I wouldn’t run with any who panhandled- had my standards. A lot of them were just slumming…Quite a few turn into the bourgeois hipster gentrification queens after they’ve earned their cred.”

    They never earn their cred with real street. I used to encounter girls like that when I was “sleeping rough” as the Brits say. Always enjoyed reaming them a new one, getting them first angry and then tearful, while my buddies applauded me. There were young males who tried slumming, too. We’d con them out of their money and rough them up a little.

    I hated punks and poseurs then and I guess I still hate them.

    N.B. i never got a criminal record, never panhandled and never used or sold dope.

  235. @SteveRogers42
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_v._Garner#See_also

    Deadly force may only be used on a fleeing felon when the danger to the community outweighs the defendant's 4th Amendment rights (ie. armed and dangerous).

    I’m not arguing what the law says. It’s possible for the law to be wrong.

    The acceptability of using deadly force against a felon fleeing due process stems from the rationale that due process can end in capital punishment. Essentially, by fleeing, the felon de facto voluntarily gives up the right to due process. I also oppose capital punishment except in the cases of heinous crimes where the evidence is overwhelming.

    The “protection of the officer or community” standard is all right, but as I have pointed out before, missing from these discussions is numbers. What is the probability that a person with a gun fleeing an officer will shoot at the officer or another person? I don’t accept that mere possibility is an acceptable rationale for deadly force.

  236. @SteveRogers42
    Be of good cheer!

    https://i.sli.mg/i1NiF4.jpg

    Be of YUGE cheer:

    http://www.latimes.com/politics/

    An aside to the weak sisters out there: stiffen up those spines!

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