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"92% of Left-wing Activists Live with Their Parents"

From the Daily Mail, passing along an article in Bild about a study of left-wing bullyboys arrested for rioting in Berlin:

92% of left-wing activists live with their parents and one in three is unemployed, study of Berlin protesters finds

Figures were compiled by the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution
Of those arrested for politically-motivated offences, 84 per cent were men
The majority, 72 per cent, were aged between 18 and 29
Of offences against a person, four out of five cases were against police officers

 
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  1. To be fair, that doesn’t make them wrong per se.

    • Replies: @anon
    in the 1980s they mostly lived in squats

    far fewer squattable places in Europe now cos of...immigration

    lolz
    , @Rod1963
    No but it shows they have very bad life strategies and probably spent way too much time protesting and ingesting drugs rather than learning a useful skill that could have gotten them a decent job and made something of themselves. Instead they followed insane political hacks who had life time sinecures in politics or academia to their detriment.
    , @Charles Erwin Wilson

    To be fair, that doesn’t make them wrong per se.
     
    No, it just demonstrates that they are parasites.
    , @bomag
    It doesn't make them wrong, but it doesn't make them especially respectable.
    , @MJMD

    To be fair, that doesn’t make them wrong per se.

     

    No, it doesn't. The "lives with his/her parents" thing has become a trope of character assassination, although in the latter case there never used to be anything very unusual about it (just a slight aura of sadness for the aging spinster). But frankly, for the chronically unemployed and incompletely educated, left-wing radicalism is a logical response.
    , @Bill
    Right, it's the "left wing" part that makes them wrong per se.
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  2. I believe the term of art on the so-called “Dirtbag Left” is “failsons.”

  3. Steve,
    Today Mark Steyn just referenced your recent blog post on his CRTV channel! You are getting Big League!

    By the way, I’m not surprised at all. Mark is one of the few mainstream pundits who knows where globalization and mass immigration is heading. I expect him to get even more based over the next few years….

    • Replies: @celt darnell
    In fairness to Mark Steyn, he has referenced Steve before -- including his movie reviews.

    I suspect it's the HBD that scares him off -- that's somewhere Steyn won't go as far as I can see.

  4. From the article in the tabloid Bild:

    Neun von zehn gaben als Beziehungsstatus ledig an.

    Nine out of ten told they were unmarried.

  5. This supports what we already know, these people are angry about their poor station in life and they vent that anger the way they are encouraged to.

    • Replies: @trilobite
    doesn't it also apply to members of altright.
    , @anon
    they are mostly upper middle class whose parents are in very well paid govt jobs

    if you look at it in marxist terms their parents are part of a new class which developed as a result of the growth of the state and they riot in their class interests i.e. maintaining that large state

    they're defending the big state which provides their parents (and eventually themselves) with well paid govt jobs - the anarchism is just an excuse for the violence
    , @mobi

    This supports what we already know, these people are angry about their poor station in life and they vent that anger the way they are encouraged to.
     
    Of such are made - the Red Guards, the Khmer Rouge, the Bolsheviks, etc.

    There's a long, bloody history of the bottom seizing the periodic openings dropped into their laps by historical disruptions to seize power and status by the only means they're capable of - 'a fist in the face' - simply eliminating the top.

    'Fascism of the Inferior' - it will never go away.

    And if there's much truth to the current 'the robots are coming' fashion, the angry, unemployed, resentful bottom may reach its historical maximum before our very eyes.

    Somewhat related:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3678852/Could-BOREDOM-explain-political-divide-Scientists-say-tedium-lead-views-extreme.html

    'Boredom breeds extreme political views'

    And also:

    http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/01/30/doomsday-prep-for-the-super-rich

    Summary - claims that up to half of Silicon Valley tech millionares are secretly preparing their bolt-holes in fear of mass social disruption, including the kind directed at successful types like them (and caused by their creations).

    Peter Thiel, for example, is stocking up on remote New Zealand real estate as we speak. (Ironic?)

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/technology/peter-thiel-new-zealand-citizenship.html

  6. So the misery of failure to launch becomes externalized against a mythic evil establishment of oppressive white men.

    • Replies: @Ivy
    That failure to launch problem will continue due to social inertia. Too many young men discouraged from college, fewer jobs, all-around demonization by the media. When they get a daily ration of male-bashing (rape culture, Haven Monahan look-alike, evil patriarch in training, ad infinitum ad nauseum) too many will start to believe the BS.

    That is where role models, common sense and leadership come into the picture. Cutting through the media and lefty bias is like cutting a Gordian knot when you have the right weapon and the will to deploy it.
    , @Desiderius

    a mythic evil establishment of oppressive white men
     
    Not sure just how mythic it is.

    Not they're barking up the right tree or anything, but there are definitely some men keeping them down.
    , @Bill
    Pretty sure failure to launch is caused by an evil establishment of oppressive whitish men.
    , @anon
    antifa are mostly white upper middle class college kids
  7. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @ScarletNumber
    To be fair, that doesn't make them wrong per se.

    in the 1980s they mostly lived in squats

    far fewer squattable places in Europe now cos of…immigration

    lolz

    • Replies: @unpc downunder
    Yes, the causes they are supporting are only going to make it harder for them to move out of home. If they want more affordable urban accommodation they should be supporting restrictions on immigration.
    , @Anonymous Nephew
    "in the 1980s they mostly lived in squats"

    But... the squatters were just as radical in the 1970s/80s, certainly in London where there were lots of quasi-anarchist commune squats. Same kind of people, mostly white, mostly middle class, overwhelmingly left.
  8. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    To be fair, the rate of adult children living with their parents tends to be higher in Europe in general, along with the rate of young adult unemployment.

  9. What percentage of all Berlin men 18-29 don’t live with their parents?

    Nein?

  10. possible sampling bias – these are just the losers who got caught.

    • Replies: @M.A
    Most, of course, are living not with both parents but with their mothers.
  11. @ScarletNumber
    To be fair, that doesn't make them wrong per se.

    No but it shows they have very bad life strategies and probably spent way too much time protesting and ingesting drugs rather than learning a useful skill that could have gotten them a decent job and made something of themselves. Instead they followed insane political hacks who had life time sinecures in politics or academia to their detriment.

  12. There was a list of the 200-some people arrested in DC over the inauguration that included their ages and town of residence. It wasn’t quite dispositive because the charges weren’t listed, and some people arrested for civil disobedience may have slipped in. But in general, impressionistically:

    * The mode for age was about 25
    * Arrests dropped off sharply after age 30
    * Lots of college towns listed as cities of residence
    * Geographically diverse
    * A surprising number of women. Not sure if this was the result of civil disobedience arrests, or if the women were less fleet of foot when the police showed up, or if the police, when given a choice, would rather take down a chick than some violent young man. There may be selection bias in the sample

    I suspect there are a lot of failure-to-launch experiences after college. They get hooked up with radical politics in school, then become more radical once they exit that structured environment. Or maybe they’re all grad students.

    The geographic diversity may indicate a fairly small cadre. If there were a lot of these people I’d expect more of those arrested to be from the DC area.

    http://gotnews.com/breaking-heres-full-list-231-people-arrested-inauguration-riots-dc/

    • Replies: @Boomstick
    Also, at age 25 they would have been 17 when Obama came into office, so all their adult lives have been hope & changey. Maybe they committed to their personal identities to leftism as adolescents under Bush II.
    , @anon
    yes - you see the same pattern with things like online petitions
    - college towns, kids of upper middle class academics
  13. @Boomstick
    There was a list of the 200-some people arrested in DC over the inauguration that included their ages and town of residence. It wasn't quite dispositive because the charges weren't listed, and some people arrested for civil disobedience may have slipped in. But in general, impressionistically:

    * The mode for age was about 25
    * Arrests dropped off sharply after age 30
    * Lots of college towns listed as cities of residence
    * Geographically diverse
    * A surprising number of women. Not sure if this was the result of civil disobedience arrests, or if the women were less fleet of foot when the police showed up, or if the police, when given a choice, would rather take down a chick than some violent young man. There may be selection bias in the sample

    I suspect there are a lot of failure-to-launch experiences after college. They get hooked up with radical politics in school, then become more radical once they exit that structured environment. Or maybe they're all grad students.

    The geographic diversity may indicate a fairly small cadre. If there were a lot of these people I'd expect more of those arrested to be from the DC area.

    http://gotnews.com/breaking-heres-full-list-231-people-arrested-inauguration-riots-dc/

    Also, at age 25 they would have been 17 when Obama came into office, so all their adult lives have been hope & changey. Maybe they committed to their personal identities to leftism as adolescents under Bush II.

    • Replies: @MJMD
    This is the case for a few people I know. As someone who was 18 when Bush II came into office, I know how formative that kind of thing can be: mostly it made me completely cynical and despairing about the world. I had high hopes for Obama which he disappointed in less than two years; after the 2010 midterms his administration continued to operate in some Beltway fantasy bubble that had next to no impact on the real world. It frightens me to think how naïve someone must be if they're 17, Obama is the president for their entire adult life, and they just take it for granted that that's normal. The only thing we can hope for is for Trump to actually achieve some of the first real American successes since Bush I and shoot the hell out of these kids' warped sense of reality.
  14. @27 year old
    This supports what we already know, these people are angry about their poor station in life and they vent that anger the way they are encouraged to.

    doesn’t it also apply to members of altright.

    • Replies: @anon
    yes - the housing and employment crisis caused by mass immigration is a spur for the alt-right among the young

    however antifa are from that segment of the population whose well-paid govt job is built on getting the votes of poor people

    so the antifa "class" gain from the mass immigration of poor people even though it also causes them housing problems so it's more 50/50
  15. @CrunchybutRealistCon
    So the misery of failure to launch becomes externalized against a mythic evil establishment of oppressive white men.

    That failure to launch problem will continue due to social inertia. Too many young men discouraged from college, fewer jobs, all-around demonization by the media. When they get a daily ration of male-bashing (rape culture, Haven Monahan look-alike, evil patriarch in training, ad infinitum ad nauseum) too many will start to believe the BS.

    That is where role models, common sense and leadership come into the picture. Cutting through the media and lefty bias is like cutting a Gordian knot when you have the right weapon and the will to deploy it.

  16. @ScarletNumber
    To be fair, that doesn't make them wrong per se.

    To be fair, that doesn’t make them wrong per se.

    No, it just demonstrates that they are parasites.

  17. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Soros bucks amplify the importance of these tiny pests by a factor of 1000³

  18. Since Steve recently had an article about that “Der Spiegel” cover showing Trump as an avatar of IS cutthroats, and since the article we’re commenting on here also touches on German matters, I submit a link to a new and related anti-Merkel variation on the “Spiegel” theme:

    http://pi-news.net/wp/uploads/2017/02/afdberlin_merkel-768×480.jpg

    Apparently the graphic was produced and circulated by the Berlin branch of the AfD party.

    • Replies: @Anonymous Nephew
    The graphic's been removed - I'm getting a 404 at any rate
  19. @JerseyGuy
    Steve,
    Today Mark Steyn just referenced your recent blog post on his CRTV channel! You are getting Big League!

    By the way, I'm not surprised at all. Mark is one of the few mainstream pundits who knows where globalization and mass immigration is heading. I expect him to get even more based over the next few years....

    In fairness to Mark Steyn, he has referenced Steve before — including his movie reviews.

    I suspect it’s the HBD that scares him off — that’s somewhere Steyn won’t go as far as I can see.

  20. @ScarletNumber
    To be fair, that doesn't make them wrong per se.

    It doesn’t make them wrong, but it doesn’t make them especially respectable.

  21. @CrunchybutRealistCon
    So the misery of failure to launch becomes externalized against a mythic evil establishment of oppressive white men.

    a mythic evil establishment of oppressive white men

    Not sure just how mythic it is.

    Not they’re barking up the right tree or anything, but there are definitely some men keeping them down.

  22. @ScarletNumber
    To be fair, that doesn't make them wrong per se.

    To be fair, that doesn’t make them wrong per se.

    No, it doesn’t. The “lives with his/her parents” thing has become a trope of character assassination, although in the latter case there never used to be anything very unusual about it (just a slight aura of sadness for the aging spinster). But frankly, for the chronically unemployed and incompletely educated, left-wing radicalism is a logical response.

  23. Why is this surprising? Happy, content, stable people with productive careers don’t become “activists” of any stripe, left or right.

  24. I believe the term often used to describe such people is NEET: Not in Education, Employment, or Training.

  25. I wonder how many of them have fathers – real fathers who raised them. I understand that bastardy has become a big problem in the UK among prole whites.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    Bastardy has become a huge problem throughout the West.
  26. @Boomstick
    Also, at age 25 they would have been 17 when Obama came into office, so all their adult lives have been hope & changey. Maybe they committed to their personal identities to leftism as adolescents under Bush II.

    This is the case for a few people I know. As someone who was 18 when Bush II came into office, I know how formative that kind of thing can be: mostly it made me completely cynical and despairing about the world. I had high hopes for Obama which he disappointed in less than two years; after the 2010 midterms his administration continued to operate in some Beltway fantasy bubble that had next to no impact on the real world. It frightens me to think how naïve someone must be if they’re 17, Obama is the president for their entire adult life, and they just take it for granted that that’s normal. The only thing we can hope for is for Trump to actually achieve some of the first real American successes since Bush I and shoot the hell out of these kids’ warped sense of reality.

  27. If true, this probably just indicates that most young people in urban parts of Europe live with their parents. In general, I can’t see why people with liberal or left-wing political views would be more likely to be home birds.

    Often young people with conservative views will live with their parents because they don’t like living in grotty flats with other young people (conservatives have a higher level of disgust over hygiene issues). Plus stroppy emotional leftists tend to clash violently with conservative parents, so they’re only likely to live at home if their parents are fellow leftists.

    • Replies: @anon

    In general, I can’t see why people with liberal or left-wing political views would be more likely to be home birds.
     
    political activists don't earn much - that's why they used to live in squats

    they usually only do it for a few years after college and then get a job
  28. See also:

    https://www.firstthings.com/article/2017/03/waiting-for-a-young-pope

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    Desiderius:

    Thank you for pointing out the First Things essay on HBO's The Young Pope.

    I didn't pay any intention to the program as I mistakenly though it was just more of the usual Vatican II agitprop.

    According to the review I couldn't be more wrong (or so I hope!).
  29. @anon
    in the 1980s they mostly lived in squats

    far fewer squattable places in Europe now cos of...immigration

    lolz

    Yes, the causes they are supporting are only going to make it harder for them to move out of home. If they want more affordable urban accommodation they should be supporting restrictions on immigration.

    • Replies: @anon
    yes - although they are generally from the class that benefits from the votes of a mass poor
  30. About a decade ago, I witnessed antifa engage in a street battle with some right wing brawlers and an army of German riot police in the Kreuzberg section of Berlin featured in this video. Antifa lit a local business on fire in protest of capitalism or something. I remembered thinking at the time just how weird these German people are with their rigid ideologies seemingly stuck in a political dynamic from the 1930s. I told my German hosts that Americans would never behave this way. Little did I realize then that perhaps Germany was actually ahead of American politics as opposed to stuck in the past.

    Local residents of Kreuzberg seemed to take it all in stride with a perverse sense of pride in their local anarchists. The rioters were “keeping it real” in the mind of local left leaning yuppies. The other take-away was that even German anarchists could not help themselves from being fundamentally German. Even their rioting seemed well planned with a certain sense of decorum and frankly order. The whole exercise felt almost rehearsed and the police and antifa maintained certain unwritten boundaries so that physical injuries were limited.

  31. @Desiderius
    See also:

    https://www.firstthings.com/article/2017/03/waiting-for-a-young-pope

    Desiderius:

    Thank you for pointing out the First Things essay on HBO’s The Young Pope.

    I didn’t pay any intention to the program as I mistakenly though it was just more of the usual Vatican II agitprop.

    According to the review I couldn’t be more wrong (or so I hope!).

    • Replies: @Romanian
    I'm sorry to say, but another review (admittedly with a lower threshold for saccharine feelz) said that the show ditches the conservatism after the first few episodes.

    http://alternative-right.blogspot.com/2017/02/papal-attraction-young-pope.html
  32. @anon
    in the 1980s they mostly lived in squats

    far fewer squattable places in Europe now cos of...immigration

    lolz

    “in the 1980s they mostly lived in squats”

    But… the squatters were just as radical in the 1970s/80s, certainly in London where there were lots of quasi-anarchist commune squats. Same kind of people, mostly white, mostly middle class, overwhelmingly left.

    • Replies: @anon
    yes - just pointing out the irony that there aren't many squats available now because of the housing crisis caused by mass immigration

    "no borders! no apartments for young professionals!"
  33. @Herzog
    Since Steve recently had an article about that "Der Spiegel" cover showing Trump as an avatar of IS cutthroats, and since the article we're commenting on here also touches on German matters, I submit a link to a new and related anti-Merkel variation on the "Spiegel" theme:

    http://pi-news.net/wp/uploads/2017/02/afdberlin_merkel-768x480.jpg

    Apparently the graphic was produced and circulated by the Berlin branch of the AfD party.

    The graphic’s been removed – I’m getting a 404 at any rate

  34. When I grew up out in the middle of flyover country, I would guess that 95% of my cronies / cohort group were not living with their parents by age 20 (exception for those who were in line to inherit and manage the family farm).

    • Replies: @anon
    yes - that used to be the norm in a lot of places
  35. http://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/wo-wohnen-linksextreme-in-berlin-die-nesthockerlegende/12898158.html

    German newspaper article questioning the statistic. It notes that “not even the Verfassungsschuetz (German official “anti-extremist” body, sometimes controversial) thinks 92% of left-wing extremists live with their parents.”

    The right-wing ones presumably stay at the Munich beer cellar where Hitler tried but failed to launch in 1923.

  36. Just goes to show what a part projection plays on the left;

    How many times have we heard about alt right types living in their parents’ basements?

  37. “To be fair, the rate of adult children living with their parents tends to be higher in Europe in general, along with the rate of young adult unemployment.”

    Population density is higher therefore housing is more expensive.

    I lived with my parents for about 4-5 years starting when I was 27. I got out of debt, finished college, and managed to leave with a tidy amount of savings that helped me buy a house. If you have an actual plan then living with your parents is fine. It’s a stupid culture that pushes young adults out of the home before they have financial assets, marketable skills, and/or a steady job.

    Something tells me that most of these protesters aren’t working towards that, however.

  38. Protesting is a quintessentially leftist and childish (redundant) activity. Rightists should never try their hand at it.

  39. No doubt, the parents grounded their little darlings when they found out they were arrested.

  40. @ScarletNumber
    To be fair, that doesn't make them wrong per se.

    Right, it’s the “left wing” part that makes them wrong per se.

  41. @CrunchybutRealistCon
    So the misery of failure to launch becomes externalized against a mythic evil establishment of oppressive white men.

    Pretty sure failure to launch is caused by an evil establishment of oppressive whitish men.

  42. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @27 year old
    This supports what we already know, these people are angry about their poor station in life and they vent that anger the way they are encouraged to.

    they are mostly upper middle class whose parents are in very well paid govt jobs

    if you look at it in marxist terms their parents are part of a new class which developed as a result of the growth of the state and they riot in their class interests i.e. maintaining that large state

    they’re defending the big state which provides their parents (and eventually themselves) with well paid govt jobs – the anarchism is just an excuse for the violence

  43. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @CrunchybutRealistCon
    So the misery of failure to launch becomes externalized against a mythic evil establishment of oppressive white men.

    antifa are mostly white upper middle class college kids

  44. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Boomstick
    There was a list of the 200-some people arrested in DC over the inauguration that included their ages and town of residence. It wasn't quite dispositive because the charges weren't listed, and some people arrested for civil disobedience may have slipped in. But in general, impressionistically:

    * The mode for age was about 25
    * Arrests dropped off sharply after age 30
    * Lots of college towns listed as cities of residence
    * Geographically diverse
    * A surprising number of women. Not sure if this was the result of civil disobedience arrests, or if the women were less fleet of foot when the police showed up, or if the police, when given a choice, would rather take down a chick than some violent young man. There may be selection bias in the sample

    I suspect there are a lot of failure-to-launch experiences after college. They get hooked up with radical politics in school, then become more radical once they exit that structured environment. Or maybe they're all grad students.

    The geographic diversity may indicate a fairly small cadre. If there were a lot of these people I'd expect more of those arrested to be from the DC area.

    http://gotnews.com/breaking-heres-full-list-231-people-arrested-inauguration-riots-dc/

    yes – you see the same pattern with things like online petitions
    - college towns, kids of upper middle class academics

  45. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @trilobite
    doesn't it also apply to members of altright.

    yes – the housing and employment crisis caused by mass immigration is a spur for the alt-right among the young

    however antifa are from that segment of the population whose well-paid govt job is built on getting the votes of poor people

    so the antifa “class” gain from the mass immigration of poor people even though it also causes them housing problems so it’s more 50/50

  46. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @unpc downunder
    If true, this probably just indicates that most young people in urban parts of Europe live with their parents. In general, I can't see why people with liberal or left-wing political views would be more likely to be home birds.

    Often young people with conservative views will live with their parents because they don't like living in grotty flats with other young people (conservatives have a higher level of disgust over hygiene issues). Plus stroppy emotional leftists tend to clash violently with conservative parents, so they're only likely to live at home if their parents are fellow leftists.

    In general, I can’t see why people with liberal or left-wing political views would be more likely to be home birds.

    political activists don’t earn much – that’s why they used to live in squats

    they usually only do it for a few years after college and then get a job

  47. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @unpc downunder
    Yes, the causes they are supporting are only going to make it harder for them to move out of home. If they want more affordable urban accommodation they should be supporting restrictions on immigration.

    yes – although they are generally from the class that benefits from the votes of a mass poor

  48. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Anonymous Nephew
    "in the 1980s they mostly lived in squats"

    But... the squatters were just as radical in the 1970s/80s, certainly in London where there were lots of quasi-anarchist commune squats. Same kind of people, mostly white, mostly middle class, overwhelmingly left.

    yes – just pointing out the irony that there aren’t many squats available now because of the housing crisis caused by mass immigration

    “no borders! no apartments for young professionals!”

  49. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Buck Turgidson
    When I grew up out in the middle of flyover country, I would guess that 95% of my cronies / cohort group were not living with their parents by age 20 (exception for those who were in line to inherit and manage the family farm).

    yes – that used to be the norm in a lot of places

  50. @27 year old
    This supports what we already know, these people are angry about their poor station in life and they vent that anger the way they are encouraged to.

    This supports what we already know, these people are angry about their poor station in life and they vent that anger the way they are encouraged to.

    Of such are made – the Red Guards, the Khmer Rouge, the Bolsheviks, etc.

    There’s a long, bloody history of the bottom seizing the periodic openings dropped into their laps by historical disruptions to seize power and status by the only means they’re capable of – ‘a fist in the face’ – simply eliminating the top.

    ‘Fascism of the Inferior’ – it will never go away.

    And if there’s much truth to the current ‘the robots are coming’ fashion, the angry, unemployed, resentful bottom may reach its historical maximum before our very eyes.

    Somewhat related:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3678852/Could-BOREDOM-explain-political-divide-Scientists-say-tedium-lead-views-extreme.html

    ‘Boredom breeds extreme political views’

    And also:

    http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/01/30/doomsday-prep-for-the-super-rich

    Summary – claims that up to half of Silicon Valley tech millionares are secretly preparing their bolt-holes in fear of mass social disruption, including the kind directed at successful types like them (and caused by their creations).

    Peter Thiel, for example, is stocking up on remote New Zealand real estate as we speak. (Ironic?)

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/technology/peter-thiel-new-zealand-citizenship.html

  51. @Dan Hayes
    Desiderius:

    Thank you for pointing out the First Things essay on HBO's The Young Pope.

    I didn't pay any intention to the program as I mistakenly though it was just more of the usual Vatican II agitprop.

    According to the review I couldn't be more wrong (or so I hope!).

    I’m sorry to say, but another review (admittedly with a lower threshold for saccharine feelz) said that the show ditches the conservatism after the first few episodes.

    http://alternative-right.blogspot.com/2017/02/papal-attraction-young-pope.html

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    Romanian:

    Thanks for the reality update and warning. In retrospect the initial episodes apparently were just too good to be true. Too bad!
  52. @Mr. Anon
    I wonder how many of them have fathers - real fathers who raised them. I understand that bastardy has become a big problem in the UK among prole whites.

    Bastardy has become a huge problem throughout the West.

  53. How many multigenerational Italian households are loser castles, full of commies? Let’s get serious. The norm in most cultures throughout history was for generations to live together, mostly for economic reasons. Steve some years ago wrote that it was a recent (Industrial Revolution) British/American-Anglo idea that every male individual, at the age of majority, should have a separate homestead. The question is, why this idea? Steve said it tends to promote empire-expansion. I say (using less fancy words) that it boosts the real estate industry. How can realtors, builders, bankers, construction suppliers, Chip and Joanna, Fred Trump, and a lot of caked-on-makeup lady real estate agents make any coin, if Guido (along with his wife and kids) stays home past age 50 enjoying Mama’s spaghetti and saving money?

    Capital accumulation? That’s certainly the last thing we want the plebs to engage in, at least not across generations. Why, if they did that, they would no longer be plebs — their dynasties might compete with ours someday. No, ideally for each and every plebian a mortgage at age 23, and plenty of anti-inheritance propaganda. What, don’t you understand that money corrupts and hard work is an unlimited virtue, especially in those cases when this virtue is its own reward (meaning its *only* reward)?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    The "Absolute Nuclear Family" historically was most common around the North Sea in old Anglo Saxon areas like England and Denmark.
  54. @The True and Original David
    How many multigenerational Italian households are loser castles, full of commies? Let's get serious. The norm in most cultures throughout history was for generations to live together, mostly for economic reasons. Steve some years ago wrote that it was a recent (Industrial Revolution) British/American-Anglo idea that every male individual, at the age of majority, should have a separate homestead. The question is, why this idea? Steve said it tends to promote empire-expansion. I say (using less fancy words) that it boosts the real estate industry. How can realtors, builders, bankers, construction suppliers, Chip and Joanna, Fred Trump, and a lot of caked-on-makeup lady real estate agents make any coin, if Guido (along with his wife and kids) stays home past age 50 enjoying Mama's spaghetti and saving money?

    Capital accumulation? That's certainly the last thing we want the plebs to engage in, at least not across generations. Why, if they did that, they would no longer be plebs -- their dynasties might compete with ours someday. No, ideally for each and every plebian a mortgage at age 23, and plenty of anti-inheritance propaganda. What, don't you understand that money corrupts and hard work is an unlimited virtue, especially in those cases when this virtue is its own reward (meaning its *only* reward)?

    The “Absolute Nuclear Family” historically was most common around the North Sea in old Anglo Saxon areas like England and Denmark.

    • Replies: @The True and Original David
    I wonder when/how that way of life became a kind of moral desideratum there and elsewhere. Protestant Reformation, Calvinism? It seems to be part of the ordeal of civility, which ordeal is in part conceived of as the schmertz of the modern.
  55. @Farinata
    possible sampling bias - these are just the losers who got caught.

    Most, of course, are living not with both parents but with their mothers.

  56. @Romanian
    I'm sorry to say, but another review (admittedly with a lower threshold for saccharine feelz) said that the show ditches the conservatism after the first few episodes.

    http://alternative-right.blogspot.com/2017/02/papal-attraction-young-pope.html

    Romanian:

    Thanks for the reality update and warning. In retrospect the initial episodes apparently were just too good to be true. Too bad!

  57. @Steve Sailer
    The "Absolute Nuclear Family" historically was most common around the North Sea in old Anglo Saxon areas like England and Denmark.

    I wonder when/how that way of life became a kind of moral desideratum there and elsewhere. Protestant Reformation, Calvinism? It seems to be part of the ordeal of civility, which ordeal is in part conceived of as the schmertz of the modern.

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