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From the New York Times:

2020 Democrats Embrace Race-Conscious Policies, Including Reparations

By Astead W. Herndon, Feb. 21, 2019

From the very first day of the 2020 presidential race, when Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts blamed “generations of discrimination” for black families earning far less than white households, Democratic hopefuls have broadly emphasized racial justice and closing the wealth gap in their policy platforms.

But in recent weeks, some candidates have started embracing specific goals and overtly race-conscious legislation that even the most left-wing elected officials stayed away from in recent years.

Last week, on the popular radio show “The Breakfast Club,” Senator Kamala Harris of California agreed with a host’s suggestion that government reparations for black Americans were necessary to address the legacies of slavery and discrimination. Ms. Harris later affirmed that support in a statement to The New York Times.

“We have to be honest that people in this country do not start from the same place or have access to the same opportunities,” she said. “I’m serious about taking an approach that would change policies and structures and make real investments in black communities.”

Ms. Warren also said she supported reparations for black Americans impacted by slavery — a policy that experts say could cost several trillion dollars, and one that Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders and many top Democrats have not supported.

The Warren campaign declined to give further details on that backing, but it came amid her calls for the federal government to provide special home-buying assistance to residents of communities that were adversely affected by “redlining,” the discriminatory practice of denying mortgages, usually in poor and nonwhite areas. She also announced a sweeping universal child-care proposal that could strongly benefit minority communities that often have limited early childhood services.

The morally [?] driven policy goals of Ms. Harris and Ms. Warren reflect a broader shift in the importance of race and identity issues in the Democratic Party, according to several scholars and political leaders who focus on the intersection of race and politics. While Democrats have long cast themselves as more inclusive than the Republican Party, grass-roots organizers and many liberal voters of all races are now pushing elected officials to go further on policies of racial equality, regardless of any political calculations. …

That two leading Democratic candidates have embraced reparations — the concept that the federal government should both acknowledge the ongoing legacy of slavery and discrimination and provide compensatory payment to those affected — is a major shift from past presidential campaigns and a win for activists who have tried to push the issue into the mainstream for decades. Julián Castro, the former cabinet secretary who is also running for president, has also indicated that he would support reparations.

Even among the 2020 Democrats who stopped short of endorsing reparations, several have laid out robust policies aimed at closing the gap in wealth between black and white families. Scholars estimate that black families in America today earn just $57.30 for every $100 in income earned by white families, according to the Census Bureau’s Current Population Survey. For every $100 in white family wealth, black families hold just $5.04. …

Mr. Sanders, the Vermont leftist whose rhetoric of a political revolution won him throngs of supporters in the last Democratic primary and disrupted the party establishment, dismissed the idea of reparations as politically unpalatable in January 2016, upsetting some racial justice activists who found his answer hypocritical….

Another sign of the party’s shift on race: Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the New York Democrat whose bold policy ideas and devoted national following have upended Capitol Hill, also voiced her support for reparations earlier this month.

“Until America tells the truth about itself, we’re not going to heal,” Ms. Ocasio-Cortez said at a forum with Ta-Nehisi Coates, the writer whose landmark 2014 article, “The Case For Reparations,” helped thrust the issue back into American consciousness.

 
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  1. Anon[606] • Disclaimer says:

    Interesting. Very interesting. Trump’s going to win the Hispanic vote in 2020. Where would the money have to come from? Taxpayers. A cut is going to be taken out of the paycheck of every Hispanic wage earner in the US, meaning a group of people who never owned slaves and most of whom weren’t even in the US during the whole Jim Crow era are going to be required to cough up money. They’re going to bolt to the Republicans if Dems go for this. They’re going to be raving mad.

    Whites, of course, will stampede to Trump. Even my die-hard liberal parents would freak out if a chunk of their retirement income is yanked away and paid to a group of people who never experienced slavery. Most blacks living in this day and age have never even experienced Jim Crow laws.

    What’s more, black have received massive welfare aid from whites for decades now. This may be the straw that breaks the Democratic Party’s back. About half of the Baby Boomers are retired, and the other half is close to it, and they’re going to be furious if they’re required to pay because their retirement will take a hit. You can’t make significant payments to 33 million people without making a massive dent in the economy.

    • Replies: @Bubba

    You can’t make significant payments to 33 million people without making a massive dent in the economy.
     
    Just have a lawyer make up a reason to seize the Harvard endowment and then divide it out among descendants of slaves. Somehow I think old Fauxcahontas would find a way to get a 7 figure check from that settlement by claiming she is black descendant of slaves.
    , @Buck Ransom
    If Kamala and Liz both shill for reparations in the primaries, won't all the other Democrat hopefuls be forced to follow their lead? Is any Democrat really going to take a stand AGAINST something like this? It'll have to give Trump at least another 30% of the white vote.
    , @El Dato

    Taxpayers. A cut is going to be taken out of the paycheck of every Hispanic wage earner in the US, meaning a group of people who never owned slaves and most of whom weren’t even in the US during the whole Jim Crow era are going to be required to cough up money. They’re going to bolt to the Republicans if Dems go for this. They’re going to be raving mad.
     
    But it's going to be done the usual way, by printing money. So the money can be handed out, and people very close to the state (industrial and military contractors) don't lose out before inflation hits.

    Inflation will then be blamed on overproduction, underproduction, financially inverted pranic powers, or Russia.

    Problem solved.

    http://www.usdebtclock.org/ is now at 22 x 10^12 USD, with unfunded liabilities (i.e. promises for which money had to be found somewhere eventually) at 122 x 10 ^ 12 USD. What's an uptick to this?
    , @Redneck farmer
    Nah, Hispanics will be reminded the Spanish and Portuguese brought slavery to the so-called New World. It will be ignored that the Hispanics' ancestors were enslaved by the gringos.
    , @Sleep
    It's not clear that the reparations are only intended for blacks... or that the money will come from taxpayers as a whole instead of just whites ... or that it will ever stop.

    It doesn't have to make sense. The wolves are closing in on their prey.
    , @Hank Archer
    How do we fund this? Easy, gift title to non-wilderness BLM and Forest Service acreage to slave decendants. The can retain the land or sell as they wish.

    Pit the reparations crowd against the environmentalists.
  2. Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts blamed “generations of discrimination” for black families earning far less than white households

    Does Warren really expect to win over Blacks with this kind of talk? Or is she really talking to a certain caste of self-righteous Whites?

  3. I think that, in the last 50+ years, blacks have received far more in unearned compensation than was ever stolen from their ancestors in labor, even if we add in a surcharge for pain and suffering and multiply it by a high interest rate.

    • Agree: BenKenobi, Bruce County
    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    And the colossal cost to white people of living in a society afflicted by negroes is never, ever factored in. Not a white person alive had anything to do with this affliction--not even our ancestors, in most cases--yet we all pay, day in and day out.

    This country has been half-destroyed by negroes over the past several decades, and the only 'solutions' being proposed involve ramping up the destruction.

    , @Mr. XYZ
    Very possible. La Griffe du Lion referred to this as the Robin Hood effect.
    , @Gabe Ruth
    That's the most boomerific thing I've read today.
    , @Anon
    Yes, the tax that whites pay includes the monetary equivalent of paying for incompetent government workers, for the added staff necessary to babysit them, for the time wasted waiting in line at government offices and in dealing with their mistakes.
    , @Rapparee, @Ghost of Bull Moose
    This is true, and should be factored in to the reparations.

    Blacks shouldn't end up owing more than a couple of thousand each. Let's be nice and let it slide.

  4. It’s good that the reporter explained that their suppprt for reparations was “moral” as opposed to whatever a cynic might imagine.

  5. They could shrewdly be playing the role of pace cars, making a saner Bernie seem better in the end.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    Isn't it just as plausible that this is intended to see President Trump reelected?

    Just look up and down this thread -- gullible white guys already anxious to vote again.
  6. Well, why don’t Harris and Booker introduce a bill to end slavery in America? What? Oh, never mind.

    • LOL: bomag
  7. Thus guaranteeing their complete and total defeat in the upcoming Democratic primary.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    I hope you are wrong. Trump's best hope for 2020 is that the Dems run a far left candidate so that when given the choice between the Fascist and the Socialist, even college whites will opt for the Fascist.

    This kind of pandering to blacks is completely unnecessary. They are already all chained to the Democrat party anyway. What are they going to do , vote 110% Democrat? And college whites love to virtue signal when it is free, but TRILLIONS of $ of reparations is not free - it would have to come out of the hide of every taxpayer. So why are they pushing this? Just because they can? Do they think that Trump is going to be so toxic that they can push the nation far to the left and STILL win?
  8. Is Chappelle wearing white face in that video, or is he supposed to be playing a super conked black newscaster?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    I think he's doing a Ted Koppel impression?
  9. As a white man with Polish ancestry, I demand reparations from the Germans, the Austrians, the Russians, and the Ottoman Turks.

    Kamala, are you listening???

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    You forgot to mention the Slovaks here. They helped the Nazis invade Poland back in 1939.
    , @Dube
    Reparations for Poles from the Ottoman Turks? Actually, the Turks showed clean heels at Vienna when the Poles rode down the hill at them.
    , @Alfa158
    Why the Ottomans? All I know about Poles vs Ottomans was that Sobieski and his army marched all the way down to Vienna and whupped the Turks on Sep 11-12 1683. I wasn’t aware that the Turks ever got far enough north to do anything to the Poles.
    , @stillCARealist
    The Poles weren't very nice to Jews. I wouldn't expect much in the way of $$ coming to you.
    , @International Jew
    Don't forget the Swedes either.
    , @Herzog
    As a German, I'll be happy to have my government send you some money -- as soon as we received our reparations from the French who, as doubtlessly you are aware, continuously ravaged and attacked my country from the 17th to the 19th century (Thirty Years War, Louis XIV, Napoleon -- he didn't exactly get to near Moscow by plane, did he?). Heck, even the 1870 and 1914 wars were declared by the French on us, even if propaganda later all but wiped out this knowledge.

    Also, we might want to have a seriously talk with the Magyars, who were a real plague on us in the 10th century.

    Lastly, I trust you Poles will pass on a good chunk of what you get to the Ukrainians, right?
    , @GermanReader2
    As a German, I demand reparations from every country that fought in the 30-year-war.
  10. For it is evil things we shall be fighting.

    ‘…Last week, on the popular radio show “The Breakfast Club,” Senator Kamala Harris of California agreed with a host’s suggestion that government reparations for black Americans were necessary to address the legacies of slavery and discrimination. Ms. Harris later affirmed that support in a statement to The New York Times.

    “We have to be honest that people in this country do not start from the same place or have access to the same opportunities,” she said. “I’m serious about taking an approach that would change policies and structures and make real investments in black communities.”

    Ms. Warren also said she supported reparations for black Americans impacted by slavery…’

    ‘Trump 2020. Do you actually have a choice?’

    • Replies: @RonaldB
    "Trump 2020. Do you actually have a choice?’"

    Here is the logic. Let me know if you disagree with the premises.

    Trump is not stopping, or even slowing, the destruction and replacement of traditional America.
    Immigration, legal and illegal, is booming and increasing.
    Deficit continues to explode, leading to either hyperinflation or the selling of the US.
    Wars having nothing to do with US security are continuing and expanding (Venezuela).
    Birthright citizenship, chain migration, and the asylum scam are exploding present number of migrants.

    Conclusion: even with Trump, the path to losing is inevitable.

    Therefore, given a choice between losing the fight with Trump, who served one term and broke his promises, or losing the fight with a cultural-Marxist who is explicit about following horrible policies, the vote of the patriot should go to: the cultural-Marxist.

    The reasoning is that those who promise and don't deliver will be turned out of office immediately. If we have the time left after one term of a far-leftist, the next candidate running on immigration patriotism will know he has to keep his promises.

    It's a risky strategy, but the only with with a possible path to maintaining the country as it is.
  11. The Overton window is going to need a bigger sash, to paraphrase Jaws. If reparations are on the talking points, black IQ and Jewish disparate impact can’t be far behind.

  12. U Mass Amherst poll
    New Hampshire Dem Primary Likely Voters (n=337)
    Release date, Feb. 20, 2019 (pdf)
    (Reflects polling Feb. 7 to 15; 52 weeks out from 2020 NH Primary)

    First Tier
    29% Biden
    20% Bernie
    14% Harris
    9% Warren

    Second Tier (= the brief article I saw did not mention any of the below names)
    6% Beto
    3% Booker
    3% Gillibrand
    2% Bloomberg

    Third Tier
    1% Castro
    1% Klobuchar
    3% All Others

    9% Undecided and not leaning towards any candidate

    _______________

    The poll also reveals each candidate’s “base,” at least for New Hampshire and about eleven months before the primary season begins in earnest. These are the subdemographics that lend each candidate his/her strongest support (see pdf p.4) (caveat, small sample size) :

    Warren
    – Age 30+
    – Income <$40k
    – Liberal

    Harris
    – Age 55+
    – Postgraduate degree
    – Liberal

    [MORE]

    Gillibrand
    – Women
    – Age <55
    – Undergraduate degree
    – Income over $100k

    Klobuchar
    – Moderate

    Booker
    – At least some college
    – Moderate

    Sanders
    – Men
    – Strongly age under 55, especially 30-54
    – No college degree
    – Income <$40k
    – Liberal

    Biden
    – Age over 55
    – Income $40k to $100k
    – Moderate

    O'Rourke
    – Age 18 to 29
    – At least some college
    – Liberal

    Castro
    (No base)

    Bloomberg
    (No base)

    • Replies: @Anon
    It's beginning to look like Biden may win the Democratic primary--lesser of all the evils syndrome. But I doubt any politician who has ever served in the US Senate will personally vote for him, especially the ones with female offspring.

    It's going to be hilarious watching the Democrats try to work up fervor oven Biden. They're going to be in drunken despair even before election day if they have to do that.

    , @Thulean Friend
    New Hampshire is a very white state which is increasingly unrepresentative of the democratic voter base.

    Also, given that even white senators like Warren are embracing tax theft of white incomes, what makes you think that substantial parts of the white liberal primary voters don't? You are underestimating the extent of white liberal self-hatred.

    , @Jim Christian
    I smell danger, myself. All these lists, as they ignore Hillary, waiting in the wings. Who sat quietly while the other Democrat ladies immolated over Smollett. Anyone wanna bet Bill told her to clam? He's a smart bastard, Bill. This way, Hillary will get no such questions of falling for the hoax. As the Democrats fall to the wayside one-by-one, a simple draft at the Convention gets the party off the hook from the field of morons and charlatans, giving Hillary the nomination without the load of running throughout the primaries. Tanned, rested and ready, Baby!

    Bet your ass, given the chance again, Hillary will actually listen to Bill, instead of a gay Mook with an armful of printouts. She had perhaps the greatest late-stage political strategist since Robert Kennedy RIGHT THERE in the form of Bill Clinton and ignored him in favor of a Mook. That particular mistake won't be made again. Leave Hillary off the table of choices at your peril, if you're counting on the incompetent candidates the Democrats are showing today to lose to Trump, including Biden. Her campaign started by keeping her mouth shut on Smollett. She's not done by a damned sight.

    , @res

    Warren
    – Age 30+
    – Income <$40k
    – Liberal

    Harris
    – Age 55+
    – Postgraduate degree
    – Liberal
     
    Amazing. I would have expected those to be reversed. I guess I really don't understand here. Anyone have any insights to offer why the voters would break this way?
  13. @Anon
    Is Chappelle wearing white face in that video, or is he supposed to be playing a super conked black newscaster?

    I think he’s doing a Ted Koppel impression?

  14. @AndrewR
    I think that, in the last 50+ years, blacks have received far more in unearned compensation than was ever stolen from their ancestors in labor, even if we add in a surcharge for pain and suffering and multiply it by a high interest rate.

    And the colossal cost to white people of living in a society afflicted by negroes is never, ever factored in. Not a white person alive had anything to do with this affliction–not even our ancestors, in most cases–yet we all pay, day in and day out.

    This country has been half-destroyed by negroes over the past several decades, and the only ‘solutions’ being proposed involve ramping up the destruction.

    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
    Negroes would have had zero opportunity to damage the country were it not for pathologically altruistic whites enabling them.

    The war in Western lands isn't between whites and non-whites, it's between pathologically-altruistic cat-rescue-hoarder lunatic whites and the rest of whites.

    It's white vs white. This is the antebellem period prior to the resumption of the English Civil War.
  15. Gibs/MeDat 2020
    ‘We hope for your change’

    • Replies: @Jon
    Golf clap
  16. Repatriations? Finally, the Dems have a sensible racial platform.

    But seriously, one day in college, my first Nigerian acquaintance was watching the Congressional Black Caucus on C-span. They were calling for reparations, and he was saying “this is the best thing I ever heard”, on the telephone to another Nigerian, whom he had called to tell him to tune in.

    And this guy claimed to be born in America. I’m guessing his parents were on some kind of student visa. Weren’t those two brothers Smollet hired, also born here? Probably on a student visa. One of the worse things the modern college system does is bring in Nigerians and make them angry by giving them debt. IMO, not a single one comes without the expectation of staying.

  17. I dunno, she looks like the kind of leader we need..

    Meanwhile… One flaw in the political calculus may be that (additional) reparations will appeal only to voters whom the Dems already own. So this must be grandstanding for the primary battles only. Sort of fun when you look at it that way.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Is that an unphotoshopped picture?

    She looks like the popular, Hollywood, representation of a 'space alien'.
    , @Dacian Julien Soros
    Oh, look, Photoshop! That's going to win hearts and minds in many kindergardens and primary schools across the country.
  18. Remember when affirmative action was only supposed to be meant for blacks but ended up getting applied to all non whites?

    Can’t WAIT for that strain of logic to affect the reparations movement!

    • Replies: @bro3886
    Can't wait? It's already being done. Elizabeth Warren calls for reparations for Native Americans and AOC is calling for reparations for all non-whites on the excuse that the New Deal (paid for by whites) didn't help them even though the vast majority of their families weren't even in the country at the time.
  19. @Hail
    U Mass Amherst poll
    New Hampshire Dem Primary Likely Voters (n=337)
    Release date, Feb. 20, 2019 (pdf)
    (Reflects polling Feb. 7 to 15; 52 weeks out from 2020 NH Primary)

    First Tier
    29% Biden
    20% Bernie
    14% Harris
    9% Warren

    Second Tier (= the brief article I saw did not mention any of the below names)
    6% Beto
    3% Booker
    3% Gillibrand
    2% Bloomberg

    Third Tier
    1% Castro
    1% Klobuchar
    3% All Others

    9% Undecided and not leaning towards any candidate

    _______________

    The poll also reveals each candidate's "base," at least for New Hampshire and about eleven months before the primary season begins in earnest. These are the subdemographics that lend each candidate his/her strongest support (see pdf p.4) (caveat, small sample size) :

    Warren
    - Age 30+
    - Income <$40k
    - Liberal

    Harris
    - Age 55+
    - Postgraduate degree
    - Liberal

    Gillibrand
    - Women
    - Age <55
    - Undergraduate degree
    - Income over $100k

    Klobuchar
    - Moderate

    Booker
    - At least some college
    - Moderate

    Sanders
    - Men
    - Strongly age under 55, especially 30-54
    - No college degree
    - Income <$40k
    - Liberal

    Biden
    - Age over 55
    - Income $40k to $100k
    - Moderate

    O'Rourke
    - Age 18 to 29
    - At least some college
    - Liberal

    Castro
    (No base)

    Bloomberg
    (No base)

    It’s beginning to look like Biden may win the Democratic primary–lesser of all the evils syndrome. But I doubt any politician who has ever served in the US Senate will personally vote for him, especially the ones with female offspring.

    It’s going to be hilarious watching the Democrats try to work up fervor oven Biden. They’re going to be in drunken despair even before election day if they have to do that.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
    He'll pick Harris as his running mate, and that might be enough to get the Dems excited.
  20. Julián Castro, the former cabinet secretary who is also running for president, has also indicated that he would support reparations.

    Why would the other members of the coalition of the fringes support reparations for blacks, and only blacks? The coalition is all about taking from Whites and sharing the spoils. Given the tenuous nature of the coalition, gibmedats for blacks and blacks only is risking the stability of this shaky coalition.

    Note that Julian Castro indicated he would support this measure. I believe he is of Mexican descent which got me to thinking about the rise of the coalition of the fringes. Has anyone noticed that the one group that doesn’t seem to be cashing in on political power at the national level are the Mexicans. Sure Castro is running for president, but he has no chance.

    Mexicans more than any other group are responsible for the demographic transformation of this nation. Yes I know we now have Tanzanians in Idaho (see recent rape story), but it’s the Mexicans who really blew the doors off immigration. There are currently around 12 million living Mexican-born people in the USA which is almost as much as the combined number of German and Italian origin immigrants who have come here in 400 years!

    Though many Mexicans still can’t or won’t vote, as Steve wrote they are the stage army used by the left to convince Whites that our days are numbered. It is the presence of the Mexicans that has caused Spanish to become our de facto second language and to start the countdown until Whites are a minority.

    Yet Mexicans have benefited very little at the national political level. Meanwhile blacks and others like AOC are rising among the democrats because White cucks in that party are so intimidated of the rising tide of POC, fueled by the Mexicans, that they are grooming their replacements. Now blacks are pushing for reparations which is something they never would have tried in a White-dominated society. But they are not doing it because blacks are becoming the largest group. They are riding on the coattails of the Mexican stage army that has convinced many Whites that our time is up.

    So will Mexicans put up with this, or will they start to demand their share of the spoils that is commensurate with their numbers? I just don’t get their passivity, but maybe that is why the elite Whites decided to import them. They are easily controlled.

    • Replies: @Asagirian
    Why would the other members of the coalition of the fringes support reparations for blacks, and only blacks?

    Actually they might because blacks are regarded as so holy. Most people are suckers, and they go along with whatever the Power fills their silly minds with. Most people simply don't have the autonomy of mind, wider vision, and deeper understanding to find their own truths. Having limited grasp of reality and integrity, they rely on the Power to tell them what to believe and how to feel. This is why we see so many whites and non-whites putting black interests above theirs. They've been told blacks are special and awesome.

    Moral 'sacralization' of Jews, blacks, and homos had led to a kind of nihilism.
    Why? God or gods are supposed to be above the law. What applies to mortals doesn't apply to gods. Gods live by their own rules... just like Hitler and Stalin were above the laws of the little people; they were like gods.

    We've been told Jews are the eternal holy holocaust people, blacks are the eternal slavery and civil rights movement people, and homos are the new angels. They've been elevated to divine status, and that means their god-like selves are above the conventional rules of morality that applies to most humans, us suckers.
    The paradox of morality is, when you push it too far, it turns into nihilism. If a certain group suffers historical tragedy, it is decent to acknowledge the pain and show sympathy. But if that tragedy is mythologized to elevate that group to sacred status, its members begin to feel innately holy and deserving of praise & worship 24/7. They begin to put on godly airs, and when people act godlike, it's nihilism premised on presumed superiority. So superior indeed that the people of the group don't have to obey the rules that everyone is supposed to abide by.
    This talk of reparations is really demand for offerings. Gods demand offerings. Blacks want burnt offerings. But then, why shouldn't they demand it when they are holy and godlike? Humans exist to make offerings to the gods, don't they not? Well, black gods demand offerings.
    But then, are Jews any different? Why must we go easy on Jewish crooks in Wall Street and Hollywood? Why are there Jewish-only prisons that are more like vacation resorts? Why do we send billions to Israel? Why? Why do we bail out Jewish banks, but these banks can deny us service on grounds of ideology? Why does the US overlook Israel's nukes while making a fuss over Iran's non-existent nukes? Why must we sacrifice free speech to push anti-BDS laws to appease the holy Jews? Why did Jews get to rob Russia in the 90s and get away with it? Why is Jewish Wall Street too big too fail? Why all these expensive Wars for Israel? These are all burnt offerings to Jews.
    And then, the offerings to holy homos. Let them take over entire big city streets and do their 'pride' thing. Fund and celebrate such events to the tune of many millions of dollars. Spend US money to promote globo-homo propaganda all over. Even turn churches into altars to holy homo. Spend untold billions to spread homo propaganda in schools. Meanwhile , use Jewish lawfare to break and destroy a decent Christian baker who won't bend over to bake 'gay wedding cakes'.
    Given what the US does for Holy Jews and Holy Homos, why shouldn't blacks demand offerings too? And of course, these reparations will not be a one-time thing for existing blacks but something that every generation of blacks receive. But when a people have been made holy, they are above the law, above the rules. We, the mortal suckers, live, work, and toil to make offering to special groups because they are presumed to be morally divine because of some past trauma or other.

    Now, God or gods of religion being above the law isn't necessarily nihilistic because there is the assumption that He or they are indeed infinitely wise or privy to great wisdom we humans will never understand. But when humans put on such airs -- as Jews, Negroes, and homos routinely do --, it is pure nihilism because it is the worst kind of conceit for humans to pretend they are anything but human. 'Racism', 'antisemitism', and 'homophobia' really mean "Thou shall not blaspheme against any of the holy three."

    Sacralization of Jews, blacks, and homos has been especially dangerous because those three groups tend to have the most narcissistic and self-centered personality tendencies. Jews with chutzpah, blacks with jive, and homos with vanity. This hyper-moral-drive-into-nihilism must end.

    In a sane world, we would all realize that history moves on. China was weak and humiliated in the 19th century. It was deserving of sympathy then. It was in sad state in WWII too. But history moved on and now China is a great power. It would be stupid to fix our perception of China forever on what happened in WWII or during imperialism.

    Romans were once mighty. They conquered and oppressed Germanic barbarians. But later, the Romans were sacked by the barbarians. Just as it'd be absurd to forever peg Italians as supermen forever because of Roman glory or as super-victims forever because of the tragic sack of Rome, it's utterly stupid to forever fix Jewishness as 'victim of holocaust' and black identity as 'victim of slavery'. It's funny how so-called 'progressives' are pathologically stuck in old narratives and turn them into rigid iconography for all times when, in fact, a particular group in the NOW is nothing like what it was back THEN.
    It's like boxing. At one time, Muhammad Ali was the best boxer, the 'greatest' as he called himself. But time moved on, and things changed. So, when Ali met Holmes, the 'greatest' was only in name. Nothing is permanent in this world, and branding or tattooing certain groups with eternal moral worth based on a single historical event or period is crazy.
    As Jews would have us believe, Germans must forever be defined by their crimes in the Holocaust while Jews must forever be defined by their victimhood in it. And whites(all whites in the US for some reason) must be defined forever with the 'original sin' of slavery while blacks, no matter how foul or violent they act, must forever be fixed as the slavery people. And not any slavery but the slavery under whites. Never mind blacks had slavery in Africa for 10,000 yrs. The whole thing stinks. Smollett's was a neo-pharaoic act. Kang Tut-Tut. "Make me an offering. I'm mulatto god." Wakanda-mania was one such offering. Since blacks are incapable of creating such a society, we must make an offering in fantasy. Yes, master, your wish is my command.

    In a way, these are all neo-christianities because it was Christianity that first fused victimhood with divinity with eternity. Jesus died for our sins, His spirit rose to Heaven, and He offers us salvation to the end of time. Jews, blacks, and homos have been playing this game. Since white folks lost religion, PC sacraments and idols are their neo-christianities.

    But one crucial difference. Jesus, according to myth anyway, chose and accepted His victimhood specifically to share in the suffering of mankind and to offer a way to salvation. In contrast, historical victimhood is never voluntary or noble. It's just a case of 'shit happens' or 'better you than me'. History always had winners and losers, conquerors and conquered. The conquered didn't choose to lose to make some higher moral statement. They were just as ruthless and greedy as the enemies and happened to lose. So, while their victimhood was certainly sad and tragic, it was not noble, moral, or spiritual. If the losers of history could have done something to win, they certainly would have and would have done the same bad shi*. So, the turning historical victimhood into something more than historical tragedies is obscene. While we can sympathize with black plight as slaves, blacks didn't choose to be slaves to suffer and die for the sins of others. Such was the fantasy of idiot women like Harriet Beecher Stowe where a Negro plays christ role in dying for the sins of the white man. Funny that even after all these yrs, we have the same dumb tropes in stuff like GREEN MILE where were are supposed to believe a guy who is the size of both Maga Nigerians put together and then some is really black god come to save white souls. Turning humans into gods is a form of satanism.
    , @Eric Novak
    Mexicans have already received trillions in redistribution spoils, not including the spoils had as affirmative action beneficiaries in hiring and job advancement. Why would Castro support reparations for Blacks? The US Gov't won't be discriminating among non-black taxpayers who is responsible for compensating the descendants of slaves.
    , @Anon
    Mex-Americans an immigrants are descendants of slaves of the Mayans Aztecs and others then peons of the Spanish. That’s thousands of years of docility bred in like their straight black hair.

    Black Africans were only slaves around 200 years and they were never easy to control without extreme measures such as the Sundown laws.

    Plus the capitalists learned their lesson about free black labor. It may have worked for 50 to 100 years but the black workers destroyed Chicago Gary Cleveland Cincinnati Buffalo Philladelphia Baltimore Birmingham Memphis Louisville St Louis Richmond va big parts of NYC Milwaukee DC LA San Francisco. The list goes on and on.

    Seeing the cities they built destroyed by their black workers I think the capitalists will keep a firmer hand in their inherently more docile Mexicans

  21. i called this years ago, though i thought they would wait until the 2020s. i anticipated hillary’s second term as being the first time this would be seriously floated.

    harris is calling for it before even being elected. this must mean they’ve done a calculation, and they think they have this thing won – it doesn’t matter what the republicans do now. the democrats are ascendant, and can call for anything now and get elected regardless.

    i felt the same on the wall – the democrats clearly did a calculation there and think they have america won, and nothing republicans can do at this point will matter. so it’s no wall, at no time, ever, period. we just need to wait 2 more years, then we never have to hear from a republican ever again.

    the danger for harris is that a more moderate democrat gets to the center on her and gets elected instead. so there’s big risk here in not lying about what she actually wants. she should copy obama and lie thru her teeth for years. that’s the way to do it.

  22. Anon[358] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    In a diverse nation, who’s going to be paying for the reparations? Mexicans and Asians along with whites?

    I would go further. I call for Class reparations. Since generations of white working class did the heavy lifting but the owner class(white and Jewish) got most of the profits, I say let’s have race reparations and class reparations. I also call for overseas peon reparations. US companies have been using semi-slave labor in nations like Mexico and China to maximize their profits. Those workers deserve huge bonuses.

    Tax the elites at 99%. Burn the whole system down.

    Btw, how about reparations for Indians? Since Immigration led to their demise, reparations for Indians call for end to all future immigration. Casinos just don’t do it.

    • Replies: @captflee
    Additionally, Anon [358], we can achieve true cosmic justice only if we ensure that each individual's payout is based on the actual percentage of enslaved ancestors. As an example, a mulatto (jewlatto???) such as the esteemed Mr. Smollett , should receive half what a full blooded member would. It would probably be a bridge too far, but maybe his white half could be dunned for the black half's payout. Such would scarcely be more ludicrous than most of the proposals made with straight faces by our dear proggy friends.
  23. @PaceLaw
    Thus guaranteeing their complete and total defeat in the upcoming Democratic primary.

    I hope you are wrong. Trump’s best hope for 2020 is that the Dems run a far left candidate so that when given the choice between the Fascist and the Socialist, even college whites will opt for the Fascist.

    This kind of pandering to blacks is completely unnecessary. They are already all chained to the Democrat party anyway. What are they going to do , vote 110% Democrat? And college whites love to virtue signal when it is free, but TRILLIONS of $ of reparations is not free – it would have to come out of the hide of every taxpayer. So why are they pushing this? Just because they can? Do they think that Trump is going to be so toxic that they can push the nation far to the left and STILL win?

    • Replies: @Hail
    I am thinking it's literally better if a moderate Dem wins.

    President Kushner needs to go.
    , @PaceLaw
    You’ve already supplied my answer my friend! The capital Dems are running a complete slate of far left candidates! Damn near not one is centrist (Klobuchar???).
    , @Radames Sweeney

    So why are they pushing this? Just because they can?

     

    The Democratic racial radicals are no longer in control of themselves. The delirium has reached a new phase where thoughtful strategy is irrelevant. The mad hatters are in a bidding war to outdo each other in anti-white aggressiveness. They are convinced they've won already and now it's down to collecting the spoils.

    Whites have been so squishy about being replaced that the Democratic team, perhaps understandably, cannot imagine any blowback. It isn't that they've miscalculated. They haven't calculated. All they're capable of now is raising their bets. Maybe it's safe for them to do so. Maybe it's all over for whites and there's nothing left but to pay the racial jizya.

    Or not. We'll see.
    , @istevefan

    What are they going to do , vote 110% Democrat?
     
    Don't give them ideas. Broward county, Florida will probably try to vote over 100% as well as some other choice locales. Trump might lose to such shenanigans.
    , @Johann Ricke

    So why are they pushing this? Just because they can? Do they think that Trump is going to be so toxic that they can push the nation far to the left and STILL win?
     
    The two specific Democratic primary candidates are pushing it for the same reason that the GOP pushes for abortion restrictions - to win the Southern primaries, which are where Obama got the (majority black) delegates to beat Hillary. And overall, candidates who call for reparations have a better shot at winning the black vote in the Democratic primaries. Most Democrat pols seem to think of reparations as just another variation on racial quotas, from a voter perspective. Black and Hispanic quotas certainly don't seem to have prevented Democrats from winning the White House in the past 50 years. Maybe they'll widen the net and call for Hispanic reparations as well.
    , @RonaldB
    " why are they pushing this? ..."

    Because, like climate change meme, it might just win, giving Democrat/cultural Marxist bureaucrats a vast new pot of resources to gain unearned wealth and power to themselves.

    One has to view every such humongous initiative as a feint to make even more resources flow through the government's digestive system, providing unlimited opportunities for gaining personal power and advancement in the bureaucratic swamp, which means the real power in government.

    Is there a downside to proposing reparations? I don't think so. They will lose the votes of people who would not have voted for them anyway. Years of self-censorship and collaboration by the MSM will dampen any sort of identity criticism of reparations, which is the only criticism that makes sense.
    , @res

    This kind of pandering to blacks is completely unnecessary. They are already all chained to the Democrat party anyway.
     
    The issue at hand is the primary (do you think these people think long term?). Where pandering to blacks does appear to be necessary.

    Of course I imagine the pivot for the general election will be neck snapping.

    As another commenter mentioned, which Democrat can say no to reparations once it is on the table as a serious possibility?
  24. @Anon
    Interesting. Very interesting. Trump's going to win the Hispanic vote in 2020. Where would the money have to come from? Taxpayers. A cut is going to be taken out of the paycheck of every Hispanic wage earner in the US, meaning a group of people who never owned slaves and most of whom weren't even in the US during the whole Jim Crow era are going to be required to cough up money. They're going to bolt to the Republicans if Dems go for this. They're going to be raving mad.


    Whites, of course, will stampede to Trump. Even my die-hard liberal parents would freak out if a chunk of their retirement income is yanked away and paid to a group of people who never experienced slavery. Most blacks living in this day and age have never even experienced Jim Crow laws.


    What's more, black have received massive welfare aid from whites for decades now. This may be the straw that breaks the Democratic Party's back. About half of the Baby Boomers are retired, and the other half is close to it, and they're going to be furious if they're required to pay because their retirement will take a hit. You can't make significant payments to 33 million people without making a massive dent in the economy.

    You can’t make significant payments to 33 million people without making a massive dent in the economy.

    Just have a lawyer make up a reason to seize the Harvard endowment and then divide it out among descendants of slaves. Somehow I think old Fauxcahontas would find a way to get a 7 figure check from that settlement by claiming she is black descendant of slaves.

  25. “Interesting. Very interesting. Trump’s going to win the Hispanic vote in 2020. Where would the money have to come from? Taxpayers. A cut is going to be taken out of the paycheck of every Hispanic wage earner in the US, meaning a group of people who never owned slaves and most of whom weren’t even in the US during the whole Jim Crow era are going to be required to cough up money.”

    that’s nonsense.

    who will pay? the usual people will pay. middle class and upper class europeans. the law will be written to be racially specific. the money won’t be taken out of every american’s paycheck. only the americans who ‘deserve payback’. me. steve. the posters here. they’ll have the IRS enforce it by forcing you to identify yourself on your tax returns. just like PPACA. they’ll check the census, check your IRS forms, and levy the tax on you.

    democrats will be very upfront about this. mexicans – YOU WON’T PAY. don’t worry. vote for us. it will be john q smith who will pay, not you. this is a win win election for you. vote democrat in 2020.

    the idea that the democrats will levy some kind of broad, widespread tax or fine on the general population is total baloney. they know who they want to pay.

    there’s NO BETTER WAY to get africans to turn out at 99% for you than to promise something like this.

    • Replies: @Anon
    Taxes don't work that way. It's illegal. Everyone with income will be taxed, including working blacks. Yes, some blacks will pay for their own reparations.
    , @RadicalCenter
    In any event, the majority of white and asian people pay net federal income tax.

    The solid majority of Africans don’t.

    Just funding things through the income tax would target whites and Asians fairly effectively.
  26. @Anon
    Interesting. Very interesting. Trump's going to win the Hispanic vote in 2020. Where would the money have to come from? Taxpayers. A cut is going to be taken out of the paycheck of every Hispanic wage earner in the US, meaning a group of people who never owned slaves and most of whom weren't even in the US during the whole Jim Crow era are going to be required to cough up money. They're going to bolt to the Republicans if Dems go for this. They're going to be raving mad.


    Whites, of course, will stampede to Trump. Even my die-hard liberal parents would freak out if a chunk of their retirement income is yanked away and paid to a group of people who never experienced slavery. Most blacks living in this day and age have never even experienced Jim Crow laws.


    What's more, black have received massive welfare aid from whites for decades now. This may be the straw that breaks the Democratic Party's back. About half of the Baby Boomers are retired, and the other half is close to it, and they're going to be furious if they're required to pay because their retirement will take a hit. You can't make significant payments to 33 million people without making a massive dent in the economy.

    If Kamala and Liz both shill for reparations in the primaries, won’t all the other Democrat hopefuls be forced to follow their lead? Is any Democrat really going to take a stand AGAINST something like this? It’ll have to give Trump at least another 30% of the white vote.

  27. “Redlining” is apparently now the black equivalent of “the Holocaust™.”

    https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=redlining

    • Replies: @RonaldB
    Actually, redlining is not what it is presented as: a move to deny mortgages in poor areas to poor people.

    Redlining was the practice of keeping neighborhoods homogeneous, which meant keeping white neighborhoods white, or perhaps refining down to particular ethnic groups. This allowed a high level of trust between neighbors and allowed the existence of cohesive neighborhood groups.

    The redlining was carried out primarily by real estate agents, who simply didn't show houses off to potential buyers who didn't fit in. There were plenty of high-quality black neighborhoods and nicely-maintained houses owned by blacks. I was in many of them. But there was a limitation where they, like others, could buy homes.

    Chicago and the federal government made draconian laws against the practice of redlining, helping to result in deteriorating neighborhoods, less sense of cohesion, and a higher sense of anomie in citizens. In other words, people had fewer friendships, fewer roots in the neighborhood, and fewer cultural institutions to support them. In my opinion, with no facts at my command, I believe this is a factor in the lower birthrate. Potential parents and families have far less support than previous families.
  28. Do rich black athletes owe reparations to their slaveowner’s descendants for the selective breeding that led to their wealth ?

  29. again, the point is to lock up the african vote. turn the extremely important african vote in the democrat party to you. whoever the africans support, wins. if they turn out in numbers to vote for you, the republican cannot win. sky high african turn out is the name of the game. steve is on the money again.

    why would somebody other than harris or booker go for reparations? to turn sky high african turnout to them. this will become like UFC – if you can’t fight on the ground, you can’t fight. if you’re not for reparations, you can’t win the democrat nomination.

    the calculation – how many europeans who normally vote democrat, are you going to lose, versus how many sideline africans do you pick up? all other vibrants are unaffected – you promise them that they won’t be paying the tax.

    the counter calculation – non-vibrant dems must decide if they think they can get to the center on this, and move there. otherwise, all the democrat contenders will quickly go pro-reparations as a defense mechanism. a part of the platform that you’ll simply have to have, like being pro penis chopper. democrats quickly went from ‘nobody is talking about men marrying men’ to ‘if you use the wrong pronoun for this shim thing, we’ll arrest you.’

    same idea here.

  30. Who could be so heartless as to oppose repatriations?

    Oh, wait… I think I read that wrong.

    • Replies: @J1234

    Who could be so heartless as to oppose repatriations?

    Oh, wait… I think I read that wrong.
     

    LOL!

    As to "reparations," I'm wondering what exactly will be "repaired," because I think those two words are related. Will they start doing better in school? Will they commit less crime? Will they stop having kids as single moms at age 17?

    If the answer to any of these questions is "no" there's no point in paying reparations...unless you really want to see lots of purple Escalades with 28" chrome wheels on them. (I personally don't.)

    Still, this is a pleasant surprise for me. It turns out it's not only the new radically leftist House, but the emerging field of Democratic presidential candidates who've joined The Committee to Reelect Trump.

    , @bro3886
    No reparation without separation. What good is it to give blacks money when they'll still face daily micro-aggressions and bleach attacks from evil whites? The underlying racism that prevented them from accessing white-generated wealth in the first place will still be there. No. the only true reparations will be in putting all those evil whites in a reservation separated from black people so that blacks will no longer have to suffer white racism.

    Speaking of bleach attacks - this isn't the equal of the Smollett case so it's not surprising it hasn't got as much media attention:

    https://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/crime/article226636664.html
  31. @Jack D
    I hope you are wrong. Trump's best hope for 2020 is that the Dems run a far left candidate so that when given the choice between the Fascist and the Socialist, even college whites will opt for the Fascist.

    This kind of pandering to blacks is completely unnecessary. They are already all chained to the Democrat party anyway. What are they going to do , vote 110% Democrat? And college whites love to virtue signal when it is free, but TRILLIONS of $ of reparations is not free - it would have to come out of the hide of every taxpayer. So why are they pushing this? Just because they can? Do they think that Trump is going to be so toxic that they can push the nation far to the left and STILL win?

    I am thinking it’s literally better if a moderate Dem wins.

    President Kushner needs to go.

    • LOL: IHTG
    • Replies: @AnotherDad

    I am thinking it’s literally better if a moderate Dem wins.

     

    No. We do not want any moderate Dems. If you can vote in their primary vote against them. Vote for the least white and most anti-white candidate available. The people of this nation should get what they vote for ... and get it good and hard. Time is limited, people need to wake the hell up.


    President Kushner needs to go.
     
    Yes.
  32. @AndrewR
    I think that, in the last 50+ years, blacks have received far more in unearned compensation than was ever stolen from their ancestors in labor, even if we add in a surcharge for pain and suffering and multiply it by a high interest rate.

    Very possible. La Griffe du Lion referred to this as the Robin Hood effect.

  33. @Dr. X
    As a white man with Polish ancestry, I demand reparations from the Germans, the Austrians, the Russians, and the Ottoman Turks.

    Kamala, are you listening???

    You forgot to mention the Slovaks here. They helped the Nazis invade Poland back in 1939.

    • Replies: @JMcG
    Poland got part of Czechoslovakia after the Germans seized it in 1938. Very few clean hands in the Big One, WW2.
  34. @AndrewR
    I think that, in the last 50+ years, blacks have received far more in unearned compensation than was ever stolen from their ancestors in labor, even if we add in a surcharge for pain and suffering and multiply it by a high interest rate.

    That’s the most boomerific thing I’ve read today.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Refute it then, champ.
  35. @Hail
    U Mass Amherst poll
    New Hampshire Dem Primary Likely Voters (n=337)
    Release date, Feb. 20, 2019 (pdf)
    (Reflects polling Feb. 7 to 15; 52 weeks out from 2020 NH Primary)

    First Tier
    29% Biden
    20% Bernie
    14% Harris
    9% Warren

    Second Tier (= the brief article I saw did not mention any of the below names)
    6% Beto
    3% Booker
    3% Gillibrand
    2% Bloomberg

    Third Tier
    1% Castro
    1% Klobuchar
    3% All Others

    9% Undecided and not leaning towards any candidate

    _______________

    The poll also reveals each candidate's "base," at least for New Hampshire and about eleven months before the primary season begins in earnest. These are the subdemographics that lend each candidate his/her strongest support (see pdf p.4) (caveat, small sample size) :

    Warren
    - Age 30+
    - Income <$40k
    - Liberal

    Harris
    - Age 55+
    - Postgraduate degree
    - Liberal

    Gillibrand
    - Women
    - Age <55
    - Undergraduate degree
    - Income over $100k

    Klobuchar
    - Moderate

    Booker
    - At least some college
    - Moderate

    Sanders
    - Men
    - Strongly age under 55, especially 30-54
    - No college degree
    - Income <$40k
    - Liberal

    Biden
    - Age over 55
    - Income $40k to $100k
    - Moderate

    O'Rourke
    - Age 18 to 29
    - At least some college
    - Liberal

    Castro
    (No base)

    Bloomberg
    (No base)

    New Hampshire is a very white state which is increasingly unrepresentative of the democratic voter base.

    Also, given that even white senators like Warren are embracing tax theft of white incomes, what makes you think that substantial parts of the white liberal primary voters don’t? You are underestimating the extent of white liberal self-hatred.

    • Replies: @Hail

    New Hampshire is a very white state which is increasingly unrepresentative of the democratic voter base
     
    Maybe so, but NH's importance as "the first primary" is ofc its status as hinge point around which a lot of second-tier candidates fade away and begin to make endorsements.

    2016 Republican primary season:

    Sept. 21, 2015: Scott Walker withdraws
    Nov. 17: Bobby Jindal withdraws
    Dec. 21: Lindsey Graham withdraws
    Dec. 29: George Pataki withdraws
    Feb. 1, 2016: Iowa caususes
    Feb. 1: Mike Huckabee withdraws
    Feb. 3: Rick Santorum withdraws
    Feb. 3: Rand Paul withdraws
    Feb. 9: NH Primary
    Feb. 10: Chris Christie withdraws
    Feb. 10: Carly Fiorina withdraws
    Feb. 12: Jim Gilmore withdraws
    Feb. 20: South Carolina primary
    Feb. 20: Jeb Bush withdraws
    March 4: Ben Carson withdraws
    March 15: Marco Rubio withdraws, leaving Kasich, Cruz, and Trump.

    Iowa knocked off three candidates, and New Hampshire knocked off three to four more -- three withdrawing outright and poor !Jeb! left on life support (he took only 11% of the NH vote). Five men were left standing (six if counting the by-now-politically-enfeebled, doomed Jeb).

    There were only 286,000 votes cast in the NH Republican Primary in 2016; each was worth quite a lot given the impact that election had (always has) on the election's trajectory. (The criticism that it is all an elaborate parlor game looks more valid than ever given the MAGA false dawn and the occupant of the White House removing his Trump mask to reveal a Jeb on the inside.)

    , @Redneck farmer
    TF, it's other white people that will pay the higher taxes, not struggling Middle-class Americans like themselves. (Although the middle-class now consists of people earning 3x or more of the national median income.)
  36. @Jack D
    I hope you are wrong. Trump's best hope for 2020 is that the Dems run a far left candidate so that when given the choice between the Fascist and the Socialist, even college whites will opt for the Fascist.

    This kind of pandering to blacks is completely unnecessary. They are already all chained to the Democrat party anyway. What are they going to do , vote 110% Democrat? And college whites love to virtue signal when it is free, but TRILLIONS of $ of reparations is not free - it would have to come out of the hide of every taxpayer. So why are they pushing this? Just because they can? Do they think that Trump is going to be so toxic that they can push the nation far to the left and STILL win?

    You’ve already supplied my answer my friend! The capital Dems are running a complete slate of far left candidates! Damn near not one is centrist (Klobuchar???).

  37. Anon[759] • Disclaimer says:

    Black privilege raises its ugly head again:

    Jussie Smollett Returns to ‘Empire’ Set as Fox Struggles to Decide His Fate

    https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/jussie-smollett-empire-return-1203145473/

    What’s to struggle about? Can you imagine a white guy being allowed back on set after being arrested and bailed out if he had made a false claim about a black attack on him? And Smollett initiated a whole big conspiracy complete with rehearsals.

  38. @AndrewR
    I think that, in the last 50+ years, blacks have received far more in unearned compensation than was ever stolen from their ancestors in labor, even if we add in a surcharge for pain and suffering and multiply it by a high interest rate.

    Yes, the tax that whites pay includes the monetary equivalent of paying for incompetent government workers, for the added staff necessary to babysit them, for the time wasted waiting in line at government offices and in dealing with their mistakes.

    • Agree: AndrewR
  39. My cousin died at Gettysburg. My family paid reparations already.

  40. 2020 Democrats Embrace Race-Conscious Policies, Including Reparations

    Kamaladaptation.

    Mr. Sanders, the Vermont leftist…

    As opposed to Democrat, which he isn’t.

    …upsetting some racial justice activists who found his answer hypocritical…

    Nobody seems to find his residence in Vermont to be hypocritical. Vermont is to states what Chappaqua is to hamlets.

  41. @istevefan

    Julián Castro, the former cabinet secretary who is also running for president, has also indicated that he would support reparations.
     
    Why would the other members of the coalition of the fringes support reparations for blacks, and only blacks? The coalition is all about taking from Whites and sharing the spoils. Given the tenuous nature of the coalition, gibmedats for blacks and blacks only is risking the stability of this shaky coalition.

    Note that Julian Castro indicated he would support this measure. I believe he is of Mexican descent which got me to thinking about the rise of the coalition of the fringes. Has anyone noticed that the one group that doesn't seem to be cashing in on political power at the national level are the Mexicans. Sure Castro is running for president, but he has no chance.

    Mexicans more than any other group are responsible for the demographic transformation of this nation. Yes I know we now have Tanzanians in Idaho (see recent rape story), but it's the Mexicans who really blew the doors off immigration. There are currently around 12 million living Mexican-born people in the USA which is almost as much as the combined number of German and Italian origin immigrants who have come here in 400 years!

    Though many Mexicans still can't or won't vote, as Steve wrote they are the stage army used by the left to convince Whites that our days are numbered. It is the presence of the Mexicans that has caused Spanish to become our de facto second language and to start the countdown until Whites are a minority.

    Yet Mexicans have benefited very little at the national political level. Meanwhile blacks and others like AOC are rising among the democrats because White cucks in that party are so intimidated of the rising tide of POC, fueled by the Mexicans, that they are grooming their replacements. Now blacks are pushing for reparations which is something they never would have tried in a White-dominated society. But they are not doing it because blacks are becoming the largest group. They are riding on the coattails of the Mexican stage army that has convinced many Whites that our time is up.

    So will Mexicans put up with this, or will they start to demand their share of the spoils that is commensurate with their numbers? I just don't get their passivity, but maybe that is why the elite Whites decided to import them. They are easily controlled.

    Why would the other members of the coalition of the fringes support reparations for blacks, and only blacks?

    Actually they might because blacks are regarded as so holy. Most people are suckers, and they go along with whatever the Power fills their silly minds with. Most people simply don’t have the autonomy of mind, wider vision, and deeper understanding to find their own truths. Having limited grasp of reality and integrity, they rely on the Power to tell them what to believe and how to feel. This is why we see so many whites and non-whites putting black interests above theirs. They’ve been told blacks are special and awesome.

    Moral ‘sacralization’ of Jews, blacks, and homos had led to a kind of nihilism.
    Why? God or gods are supposed to be above the law. What applies to mortals doesn’t apply to gods. Gods live by their own rules… just like Hitler and Stalin were above the laws of the little people; they were like gods.

    We’ve been told Jews are the eternal holy holocaust people, blacks are the eternal slavery and civil rights movement people, and homos are the new angels. They’ve been elevated to divine status, and that means their god-like selves are above the conventional rules of morality that applies to most humans, us suckers.
    The paradox of morality is, when you push it too far, it turns into nihilism. If a certain group suffers historical tragedy, it is decent to acknowledge the pain and show sympathy. But if that tragedy is mythologized to elevate that group to sacred status, its members begin to feel innately holy and deserving of praise & worship 24/7. They begin to put on godly airs, and when people act godlike, it’s nihilism premised on presumed superiority. So superior indeed that the people of the group don’t have to obey the rules that everyone is supposed to abide by.
    This talk of reparations is really demand for offerings. Gods demand offerings. Blacks want burnt offerings. But then, why shouldn’t they demand it when they are holy and godlike? Humans exist to make offerings to the gods, don’t they not? Well, black gods demand offerings.
    But then, are Jews any different? Why must we go easy on Jewish crooks in Wall Street and Hollywood? Why are there Jewish-only prisons that are more like vacation resorts? Why do we send billions to Israel? Why? Why do we bail out Jewish banks, but these banks can deny us service on grounds of ideology? Why does the US overlook Israel’s nukes while making a fuss over Iran’s non-existent nukes? Why must we sacrifice free speech to push anti-BDS laws to appease the holy Jews? Why did Jews get to rob Russia in the 90s and get away with it? Why is Jewish Wall Street too big too fail? Why all these expensive Wars for Israel? These are all burnt offerings to Jews.
    And then, the offerings to holy homos. Let them take over entire big city streets and do their ‘pride’ thing. Fund and celebrate such events to the tune of many millions of dollars. Spend US money to promote globo-homo propaganda all over. Even turn churches into altars to holy homo. Spend untold billions to spread homo propaganda in schools. Meanwhile , use Jewish lawfare to break and destroy a decent Christian baker who won’t bend over to bake ‘gay wedding cakes’.
    Given what the US does for Holy Jews and Holy Homos, why shouldn’t blacks demand offerings too? And of course, these reparations will not be a one-time thing for existing blacks but something that every generation of blacks receive. But when a people have been made holy, they are above the law, above the rules. We, the mortal suckers, live, work, and toil to make offering to special groups because they are presumed to be morally divine because of some past trauma or other.

    Now, God or gods of religion being above the law isn’t necessarily nihilistic because there is the assumption that He or they are indeed infinitely wise or privy to great wisdom we humans will never understand. But when humans put on such airs — as Jews, Negroes, and homos routinely do –, it is pure nihilism because it is the worst kind of conceit for humans to pretend they are anything but human. ‘Racism’, ‘antisemitism’, and ‘homophobia’ really mean “Thou shall not blaspheme against any of the holy three.”

    Sacralization of Jews, blacks, and homos has been especially dangerous because those three groups tend to have the most narcissistic and self-centered personality tendencies. Jews with chutzpah, blacks with jive, and homos with vanity. This hyper-moral-drive-into-nihilism must end.

    In a sane world, we would all realize that history moves on. China was weak and humiliated in the 19th century. It was deserving of sympathy then. It was in sad state in WWII too. But history moved on and now China is a great power. It would be stupid to fix our perception of China forever on what happened in WWII or during imperialism.

    Romans were once mighty. They conquered and oppressed Germanic barbarians. But later, the Romans were sacked by the barbarians. Just as it’d be absurd to forever peg Italians as supermen forever because of Roman glory or as super-victims forever because of the tragic sack of Rome, it’s utterly stupid to forever fix Jewishness as ‘victim of holocaust’ and black identity as ‘victim of slavery’. It’s funny how so-called ‘progressives’ are pathologically stuck in old narratives and turn them into rigid iconography for all times when, in fact, a particular group in the NOW is nothing like what it was back THEN.
    It’s like boxing. At one time, Muhammad Ali was the best boxer, the ‘greatest’ as he called himself. But time moved on, and things changed. So, when Ali met Holmes, the ‘greatest’ was only in name. Nothing is permanent in this world, and branding or tattooing certain groups with eternal moral worth based on a single historical event or period is crazy.
    As Jews would have us believe, Germans must forever be defined by their crimes in the Holocaust while Jews must forever be defined by their victimhood in it. And whites(all whites in the US for some reason) must be defined forever with the ‘original sin’ of slavery while blacks, no matter how foul or violent they act, must forever be fixed as the slavery people. And not any slavery but the slavery under whites. Never mind blacks had slavery in Africa for 10,000 yrs. The whole thing stinks. Smollett’s was a neo-pharaoic act. Kang Tut-Tut. “Make me an offering. I’m mulatto god.” Wakanda-mania was one such offering. Since blacks are incapable of creating such a society, we must make an offering in fantasy. Yes, master, your wish is my command.

    In a way, these are all neo-christianities because it was Christianity that first fused victimhood with divinity with eternity. Jesus died for our sins, His spirit rose to Heaven, and He offers us salvation to the end of time. Jews, blacks, and homos have been playing this game. Since white folks lost religion, PC sacraments and idols are their neo-christianities.

    But one crucial difference. Jesus, according to myth anyway, chose and accepted His victimhood specifically to share in the suffering of mankind and to offer a way to salvation. In contrast, historical victimhood is never voluntary or noble. It’s just a case of ‘shit happens’ or ‘better you than me’. History always had winners and losers, conquerors and conquered. The conquered didn’t choose to lose to make some higher moral statement. They were just as ruthless and greedy as the enemies and happened to lose. So, while their victimhood was certainly sad and tragic, it was not noble, moral, or spiritual. If the losers of history could have done something to win, they certainly would have and would have done the same bad shi*. So, the turning historical victimhood into something more than historical tragedies is obscene. While we can sympathize with black plight as slaves, blacks didn’t choose to be slaves to suffer and die for the sins of others. Such was the fantasy of idiot women like Harriet Beecher Stowe where a Negro plays christ role in dying for the sins of the white man. Funny that even after all these yrs, we have the same dumb tropes in stuff like GREEN MILE where were are supposed to believe a guy who is the size of both Maga Nigerians put together and then some is really black god come to save white souls. Turning humans into gods is a form of satanism.

    • Agree: Dtbb
    • Replies: @Missing Person Bodyguard

    Turning humans into gods is a form of satanism.

     

    A hundred years ago, Jews couldn't join certain country clubs for your sins. On your knees!
  42. @Gabe Ruth
    That's the most boomerific thing I've read today.

    Refute it then, champ.

    • Agree: TTSSYF
    • Replies: @duncsbaby
    Classic millennial move: Call out someone for displaying traits of "boomerism," then run and hide when called on it.
  43. @Thulean Friend
    New Hampshire is a very white state which is increasingly unrepresentative of the democratic voter base.

    Also, given that even white senators like Warren are embracing tax theft of white incomes, what makes you think that substantial parts of the white liberal primary voters don't? You are underestimating the extent of white liberal self-hatred.

    New Hampshire is a very white state which is increasingly unrepresentative of the democratic voter base

    Maybe so, but NH’s importance as “the first primary” is ofc its status as hinge point around which a lot of second-tier candidates fade away and begin to make endorsements.

    2016 Republican primary season:

    Sept. 21, 2015: Scott Walker withdraws
    Nov. 17: Bobby Jindal withdraws
    Dec. 21: Lindsey Graham withdraws
    Dec. 29: George Pataki withdraws
    Feb. 1, 2016: Iowa caususes
    Feb. 1: Mike Huckabee withdraws
    Feb. 3: Rick Santorum withdraws
    Feb. 3: Rand Paul withdraws
    Feb. 9: NH Primary
    Feb. 10: Chris Christie withdraws
    Feb. 10: Carly Fiorina withdraws
    Feb. 12: Jim Gilmore withdraws
    Feb. 20: South Carolina primary
    Feb. 20: Jeb Bush withdraws
    March 4: Ben Carson withdraws
    March 15: Marco Rubio withdraws, leaving Kasich, Cruz, and Trump.

    Iowa knocked off three candidates, and New Hampshire knocked off three to four more — three withdrawing outright and poor !Jeb! left on life support (he took only 11% of the NH vote). Five men were left standing (six if counting the by-now-politically-enfeebled, doomed Jeb).

    There were only 286,000 votes cast in the NH Republican Primary in 2016; each was worth quite a lot given the impact that election had (always has) on the election’s trajectory. (The criticism that it is all an elaborate parlor game looks more valid than ever given the MAGA false dawn and the occupant of the White House removing his Trump mask to reveal a Jeb on the inside.)

  44. @Jack D
    I hope you are wrong. Trump's best hope for 2020 is that the Dems run a far left candidate so that when given the choice between the Fascist and the Socialist, even college whites will opt for the Fascist.

    This kind of pandering to blacks is completely unnecessary. They are already all chained to the Democrat party anyway. What are they going to do , vote 110% Democrat? And college whites love to virtue signal when it is free, but TRILLIONS of $ of reparations is not free - it would have to come out of the hide of every taxpayer. So why are they pushing this? Just because they can? Do they think that Trump is going to be so toxic that they can push the nation far to the left and STILL win?

    So why are they pushing this? Just because they can?

    The Democratic racial radicals are no longer in control of themselves. The delirium has reached a new phase where thoughtful strategy is irrelevant. The mad hatters are in a bidding war to outdo each other in anti-white aggressiveness. They are convinced they’ve won already and now it’s down to collecting the spoils.

    Whites have been so squishy about being replaced that the Democratic team, perhaps understandably, cannot imagine any blowback. It isn’t that they’ve miscalculated. They haven’t calculated. All they’re capable of now is raising their bets. Maybe it’s safe for them to do so. Maybe it’s all over for whites and there’s nothing left but to pay the racial jizya.

    Or not. We’ll see.

  45. I am surprised it took this long. And contra the Boomers, get ready for President Harris if Booker can’t unseat her in the primary. I figure he will have to go in even more for reparations.

    MOST Whites support reparations. White women figure it won’t apply to them, most are not married, and don’t intend to either remarry (divorced from soy-boy Nu Male types) or get married in the first place (aspiring single Moms maybe or cool Box Wine Auntie). Wealthy Boomers figure they got enough to pay up, better to punish those rednecks and deplorables.

    As noted above, no Mexican or Asian will have to pay, it will be racial carve outs for them.

    And note, this is JUST THE BASELINE. The demands will get higher and higher as the candidates bid up for Black support, and likely Mexican support. Special reparations for Mexicans too.

    Indeed if you do the math, Open Borders + Welfare State = White Serfdom. The welfare state with unlimited global immigration can only be paid for by either seizing all the enormous wealth of Bezos, Slim, Gates, Buffett, Zuckerberg, Soros and the like, or making ordinary middle class White people ESPECIALLY WHITE MEN into semi-slaves and seizing all their property.

    It is not as though the wage base for anyone will ever grow with unlimited global wage competition. So that will have to be accomplished by first taking the wealth and property and belongings of ordinary White men and giving them to non Whites, particularly Blacks who essentially run this country (they can never, ever be criticized).

    But that will just get the Federal Government over the initial hump. After that, ordinary White men will have to be drafted into some kind of semi-slavery, to produce wealth in some sort of work camp structure. The Chinese have done this with the Uighurs and no doubt Democrats want some sort of “Social Credit” giant open air prison for White men.

    This is where the demonization of White men has led. Inevitably. Allowing female hypergamy to run wild unchecked has serious, civilization ending and worse consequences. The Poz = Total Female freedom and consumer market domination.

    Don’t think that making most White men into semi slaves is not a winning national platform. Pretty much every White woman in America would vote for it. Particularly if it meant they’d be rid of their husbands. Dems figure they have this won.

    • Replies: @Alan Mercer
    Why would married white women voluntarily give up their wage slaves?
  46. @Hail
    I am thinking it's literally better if a moderate Dem wins.

    President Kushner needs to go.

    I am thinking it’s literally better if a moderate Dem wins.

    No. We do not want any moderate Dems. If you can vote in their primary vote against them. Vote for the least white and most anti-white candidate available. The people of this nation should get what they vote for … and get it good and hard. Time is limited, people need to wake the hell up.

    President Kushner needs to go.

    Yes.

  47. Lots of opportunites to activate the circular firing squads here. How would these candidates respond to being asked if the descendents of black slavery should get priority on reparations ahead of the descendents of native americans?

    Or how about adding more mainstream appeal by making reparations conditional on return to Africa? The real crime was of course forcible removal to another continent, so true reparations would move them back. And this is absolutely necessary to compensate those African societies for the loss of their valuable members.

  48. As i’ve mentioned before, i’m 100% in favor of reparations to blacks for their ancestors being enslaved and taken from Africa.

    Any reparations rewards should be age adjusted, but i’m willing to go as high as $100,000 for any fertile age black who is willing to relinquish their American citizenship, and taking all their children with them, return to Africa.

    • Replies: @istevefan
    Good point. Reparations are about repairing one to a previous condition. Giving them some money and reestablishing them in their ancestral homeland would fit the bill.
    , @TTSSYF
    I'm in favor of that, too, but let's be real. That's never going to be proposed, much less implemented. It's a fantasy. Besides -- there would still be too many other radical Leftists remaining in the country, continuing to tear us apart.

    I want an amicable divorce (sucession) but, since that is equally unlikely, my plan, when I'm no longer working full-time and can work from home, is what I keep saying in comments on the website -- move to a Red state and help make it even redder and, thus, repellant to Lefties. Surround myself with like-minded people to the extent possible and tune out the rest.
  49. @Dr. X
    As a white man with Polish ancestry, I demand reparations from the Germans, the Austrians, the Russians, and the Ottoman Turks.

    Kamala, are you listening???

    Reparations for Poles from the Ottoman Turks? Actually, the Turks showed clean heels at Vienna when the Poles rode down the hill at them.

  50. Billionaire Democrats are going to be using anything and everything to keep the Burnie type socialists at bay. (As they did in 2016) Going full racial is probably their best bet. Notice the Black canadates are the establishment shills, just as Obama was.

  51. MSM seems to favor Kamala currently. Heard Rush Limbaugh’s show and he believes the political coven working out of Obama’s house (Valerie Jarrett and the Obamas apparently live in the same house) is slyly guiding the various Dem candidates onto the rocks in order to bring in Michelle Obama at the end. She has the highest favorability of all and of course this would allow Barack back into the White House effectively as co-President (God help us all)

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
    Agreed.
    , @Thirdtwin
    Stop worrying about Michelle. She is too lazy. By all rights, she should be the new Shadow Senator from D.C., using it as a stepping stone. And don't think she'll run for Barky and ValJar's sake. She's done enough in that area already.
    , @John Mansfield
    I would love an amendment barring the children and current or former spouses of presidents from ever being president or vice-president. Like the post-FDR two-term limit, in the vein of no more Bush- or Clinton-like dynasties.
  52. @istevefan

    Julián Castro, the former cabinet secretary who is also running for president, has also indicated that he would support reparations.
     
    Why would the other members of the coalition of the fringes support reparations for blacks, and only blacks? The coalition is all about taking from Whites and sharing the spoils. Given the tenuous nature of the coalition, gibmedats for blacks and blacks only is risking the stability of this shaky coalition.

    Note that Julian Castro indicated he would support this measure. I believe he is of Mexican descent which got me to thinking about the rise of the coalition of the fringes. Has anyone noticed that the one group that doesn't seem to be cashing in on political power at the national level are the Mexicans. Sure Castro is running for president, but he has no chance.

    Mexicans more than any other group are responsible for the demographic transformation of this nation. Yes I know we now have Tanzanians in Idaho (see recent rape story), but it's the Mexicans who really blew the doors off immigration. There are currently around 12 million living Mexican-born people in the USA which is almost as much as the combined number of German and Italian origin immigrants who have come here in 400 years!

    Though many Mexicans still can't or won't vote, as Steve wrote they are the stage army used by the left to convince Whites that our days are numbered. It is the presence of the Mexicans that has caused Spanish to become our de facto second language and to start the countdown until Whites are a minority.

    Yet Mexicans have benefited very little at the national political level. Meanwhile blacks and others like AOC are rising among the democrats because White cucks in that party are so intimidated of the rising tide of POC, fueled by the Mexicans, that they are grooming their replacements. Now blacks are pushing for reparations which is something they never would have tried in a White-dominated society. But they are not doing it because blacks are becoming the largest group. They are riding on the coattails of the Mexican stage army that has convinced many Whites that our time is up.

    So will Mexicans put up with this, or will they start to demand their share of the spoils that is commensurate with their numbers? I just don't get their passivity, but maybe that is why the elite Whites decided to import them. They are easily controlled.

    Mexicans have already received trillions in redistribution spoils, not including the spoils had as affirmative action beneficiaries in hiring and job advancement. Why would Castro support reparations for Blacks? The US Gov’t won’t be discriminating among non-black taxpayers who is responsible for compensating the descendants of slaves.

  53. @Hail
    U Mass Amherst poll
    New Hampshire Dem Primary Likely Voters (n=337)
    Release date, Feb. 20, 2019 (pdf)
    (Reflects polling Feb. 7 to 15; 52 weeks out from 2020 NH Primary)

    First Tier
    29% Biden
    20% Bernie
    14% Harris
    9% Warren

    Second Tier (= the brief article I saw did not mention any of the below names)
    6% Beto
    3% Booker
    3% Gillibrand
    2% Bloomberg

    Third Tier
    1% Castro
    1% Klobuchar
    3% All Others

    9% Undecided and not leaning towards any candidate

    _______________

    The poll also reveals each candidate's "base," at least for New Hampshire and about eleven months before the primary season begins in earnest. These are the subdemographics that lend each candidate his/her strongest support (see pdf p.4) (caveat, small sample size) :

    Warren
    - Age 30+
    - Income <$40k
    - Liberal

    Harris
    - Age 55+
    - Postgraduate degree
    - Liberal

    Gillibrand
    - Women
    - Age <55
    - Undergraduate degree
    - Income over $100k

    Klobuchar
    - Moderate

    Booker
    - At least some college
    - Moderate

    Sanders
    - Men
    - Strongly age under 55, especially 30-54
    - No college degree
    - Income <$40k
    - Liberal

    Biden
    - Age over 55
    - Income $40k to $100k
    - Moderate

    O'Rourke
    - Age 18 to 29
    - At least some college
    - Liberal

    Castro
    (No base)

    Bloomberg
    (No base)

    I smell danger, myself. All these lists, as they ignore Hillary, waiting in the wings. Who sat quietly while the other Democrat ladies immolated over Smollett. Anyone wanna bet Bill told her to clam? He’s a smart bastard, Bill. This way, Hillary will get no such questions of falling for the hoax. As the Democrats fall to the wayside one-by-one, a simple draft at the Convention gets the party off the hook from the field of morons and charlatans, giving Hillary the nomination without the load of running throughout the primaries. Tanned, rested and ready, Baby!

    Bet your ass, given the chance again, Hillary will actually listen to Bill, instead of a gay Mook with an armful of printouts. She had perhaps the greatest late-stage political strategist since Robert Kennedy RIGHT THERE in the form of Bill Clinton and ignored him in favor of a Mook. That particular mistake won’t be made again. Leave Hillary off the table of choices at your peril, if you’re counting on the incompetent candidates the Democrats are showing today to lose to Trump, including Biden. Her campaign started by keeping her mouth shut on Smollett. She’s not done by a damned sight.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
    I think it's more likely that it's Michelle Obama who is quietly waiting in the wings. She personally may not be all that enthused about running or being President, but she has Obama and Jarrett giving her pep talks and assuring her she'd be the figurehead President while they'd actually be running things.
  54. Meh. It’s a desperate gimmick. They’re just renaming welfare ‘reparations’. At an economic level, this changes nothing. However, its effect on the electorate should be interesting to watch. Grab your popcorn!

  55. @prime noticer
    "Interesting. Very interesting. Trump’s going to win the Hispanic vote in 2020. Where would the money have to come from? Taxpayers. A cut is going to be taken out of the paycheck of every Hispanic wage earner in the US, meaning a group of people who never owned slaves and most of whom weren’t even in the US during the whole Jim Crow era are going to be required to cough up money."

    that's nonsense.

    who will pay? the usual people will pay. middle class and upper class europeans. the law will be written to be racially specific. the money won't be taken out of every american's paycheck. only the americans who 'deserve payback'. me. steve. the posters here. they'll have the IRS enforce it by forcing you to identify yourself on your tax returns. just like PPACA. they'll check the census, check your IRS forms, and levy the tax on you.

    democrats will be very upfront about this. mexicans - YOU WON'T PAY. don't worry. vote for us. it will be john q smith who will pay, not you. this is a win win election for you. vote democrat in 2020.

    the idea that the democrats will levy some kind of broad, widespread tax or fine on the general population is total baloney. they know who they want to pay.

    there's NO BETTER WAY to get africans to turn out at 99% for you than to promise something like this.

    Taxes don’t work that way. It’s illegal. Everyone with income will be taxed, including working blacks. Yes, some blacks will pay for their own reparations.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    Exactly.

    One of the worst arguments against reparations is the “my ancestors weren’t here during slavery so why should I pay” argument.

    If you are a citizen, you take on the benefits and the obligations of the US. Those who came later get the benefits of my ancestors who fought in the various wars from King Phillips War on, and they share the debts and obligations., including the National Debt and all Treaty obligations.

    In the unlikely event there are reparations, all Americans will and should share the burden.

    And yes, that would mean Oprah would pay far more than she would receive.
    , @JMcG
    Good Lord. What are you talking about? Have you never heard of the EITC? Do you know the difference between payroll taxes and income tax?
  56. @Jack D
    I hope you are wrong. Trump's best hope for 2020 is that the Dems run a far left candidate so that when given the choice between the Fascist and the Socialist, even college whites will opt for the Fascist.

    This kind of pandering to blacks is completely unnecessary. They are already all chained to the Democrat party anyway. What are they going to do , vote 110% Democrat? And college whites love to virtue signal when it is free, but TRILLIONS of $ of reparations is not free - it would have to come out of the hide of every taxpayer. So why are they pushing this? Just because they can? Do they think that Trump is going to be so toxic that they can push the nation far to the left and STILL win?

    What are they going to do , vote 110% Democrat?

    Don’t give them ideas. Broward county, Florida will probably try to vote over 100% as well as some other choice locales. Trump might lose to such shenanigans.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    Look up how many felons there are in Florida, whose voting "rights" were "restored"..

    What the Dems can't make happen with immigrants, they'll use native-born criminals.

    The sad irony is that most Republicans voted for it too.
  57. @AnotherDad
    As i've mentioned before, i'm 100% in favor of reparations to blacks for their ancestors being enslaved and taken from Africa.

    Any reparations rewards should be age adjusted, but i'm willing to go as high as $100,000 for any fertile age black who is willing to relinquish their American citizenship, and taking all their children with them, return to Africa.

    Good point. Reparations are about repairing one to a previous condition. Giving them some money and reestablishing them in their ancestral homeland would fit the bill.

  58. Kamala:

    Why don’t you just take a leaf out of your own native homeland’s book, (India), and declare blacks to be the Brahmins, the living gods, and whites to be the Dalits, the lowest of the low, and just be done with it?

    People respect honesty.

  59. America more and more resembles a feudal society – where wealth is transferred ‘as of right’ from the unprivileged to the privileged.

    In fact, the complete antithesis of everything George Washington fought for – and why he had such an animus against ‘jolly old England’, and its ancient ways.

  60. @Mr McKenna
    I dunno, she looks like the kind of leader we need..

    https://i.ibb.co/qNq0qsG/AOC-3C.jpg

    Meanwhile... One flaw in the political calculus may be that (additional) reparations will appeal only to voters whom the Dems already own. So this must be grandstanding for the primary battles only. Sort of fun when you look at it that way.

    Is that an unphotoshopped picture?

    She looks like the popular, Hollywood, representation of a ‘space alien’.

  61. @Anon
    Interesting. Very interesting. Trump's going to win the Hispanic vote in 2020. Where would the money have to come from? Taxpayers. A cut is going to be taken out of the paycheck of every Hispanic wage earner in the US, meaning a group of people who never owned slaves and most of whom weren't even in the US during the whole Jim Crow era are going to be required to cough up money. They're going to bolt to the Republicans if Dems go for this. They're going to be raving mad.


    Whites, of course, will stampede to Trump. Even my die-hard liberal parents would freak out if a chunk of their retirement income is yanked away and paid to a group of people who never experienced slavery. Most blacks living in this day and age have never even experienced Jim Crow laws.


    What's more, black have received massive welfare aid from whites for decades now. This may be the straw that breaks the Democratic Party's back. About half of the Baby Boomers are retired, and the other half is close to it, and they're going to be furious if they're required to pay because their retirement will take a hit. You can't make significant payments to 33 million people without making a massive dent in the economy.

    Taxpayers. A cut is going to be taken out of the paycheck of every Hispanic wage earner in the US, meaning a group of people who never owned slaves and most of whom weren’t even in the US during the whole Jim Crow era are going to be required to cough up money. They’re going to bolt to the Republicans if Dems go for this. They’re going to be raving mad.

    But it’s going to be done the usual way, by printing money. So the money can be handed out, and people very close to the state (industrial and military contractors) don’t lose out before inflation hits.

    Inflation will then be blamed on overproduction, underproduction, financially inverted pranic powers, or Russia.

    Problem solved.

    http://www.usdebtclock.org/ is now at 22 x 10^12 USD, with unfunded liabilities (i.e. promises for which money had to be found somewhere eventually) at 122 x 10 ^ 12 USD. What’s an uptick to this?

  62. Left-wing politics is an arms race. When you appeal to the mob, and a mob with competing internal interests, that mob soon gets bored and you have to up the ante to even get noticed. Add in the Left’s famous antipathy to opposing views and you end up with stuff like this – on the inside, it works, from the outside it looks like utter lunacy.

  63. obviously, americans are not taxed enough; come on now. Federal, state, local/city, racial-guilt, ethno-cultural, gender. (If the west is truely gender neutral, then why is it that men have to by condoms to prevent the spread of sexually transmitted diseases? Can’t women do something to stop speading diseases? Why is it all up to men? Are women that passive?…) (there are numerous “cultural centers” to this-and-that racial group, oops I mean breeding population, but they receive government sanction (e.g. zoning laws, building permits etc.) and perhaps funding. how far would a proposal for a “european american cultural center” go, anywhere, in the US?)

  64. @Jack D
    I hope you are wrong. Trump's best hope for 2020 is that the Dems run a far left candidate so that when given the choice between the Fascist and the Socialist, even college whites will opt for the Fascist.

    This kind of pandering to blacks is completely unnecessary. They are already all chained to the Democrat party anyway. What are they going to do , vote 110% Democrat? And college whites love to virtue signal when it is free, but TRILLIONS of $ of reparations is not free - it would have to come out of the hide of every taxpayer. So why are they pushing this? Just because they can? Do they think that Trump is going to be so toxic that they can push the nation far to the left and STILL win?

    So why are they pushing this? Just because they can? Do they think that Trump is going to be so toxic that they can push the nation far to the left and STILL win?

    The two specific Democratic primary candidates are pushing it for the same reason that the GOP pushes for abortion restrictions – to win the Southern primaries, which are where Obama got the (majority black) delegates to beat Hillary. And overall, candidates who call for reparations have a better shot at winning the black vote in the Democratic primaries. Most Democrat pols seem to think of reparations as just another variation on racial quotas, from a voter perspective. Black and Hispanic quotas certainly don’t seem to have prevented Democrats from winning the White House in the past 50 years. Maybe they’ll widen the net and call for Hispanic reparations as well.

  65. Maybe Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez should include reparations in the Green New Deal.

  66. Hated by (((whom)))?

    • Replies: @Hail
    Rowaida Abdelaziz

    https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5c1283ae2200000507deb340.jpg

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/author/rowaida-abdelaziz

    To sumarize her writing career (and to paraphrase John Derbyshire),

    Muslimity-Muslimity-Muslim! Islamity-Islamity-Islam! Whites, Bad! Muslims, Good!
     
  67. Since Jews and Asians make more money than Whites, I want my reparations too. Can I get them deposited electronically since I live outside the US?

  68. @Anon
    Interesting. Very interesting. Trump's going to win the Hispanic vote in 2020. Where would the money have to come from? Taxpayers. A cut is going to be taken out of the paycheck of every Hispanic wage earner in the US, meaning a group of people who never owned slaves and most of whom weren't even in the US during the whole Jim Crow era are going to be required to cough up money. They're going to bolt to the Republicans if Dems go for this. They're going to be raving mad.


    Whites, of course, will stampede to Trump. Even my die-hard liberal parents would freak out if a chunk of their retirement income is yanked away and paid to a group of people who never experienced slavery. Most blacks living in this day and age have never even experienced Jim Crow laws.


    What's more, black have received massive welfare aid from whites for decades now. This may be the straw that breaks the Democratic Party's back. About half of the Baby Boomers are retired, and the other half is close to it, and they're going to be furious if they're required to pay because their retirement will take a hit. You can't make significant payments to 33 million people without making a massive dent in the economy.

    Nah, Hispanics will be reminded the Spanish and Portuguese brought slavery to the so-called New World. It will be ignored that the Hispanics’ ancestors were enslaved by the gringos.

  69. @Thulean Friend
    New Hampshire is a very white state which is increasingly unrepresentative of the democratic voter base.

    Also, given that even white senators like Warren are embracing tax theft of white incomes, what makes you think that substantial parts of the white liberal primary voters don't? You are underestimating the extent of white liberal self-hatred.

    TF, it’s other white people that will pay the higher taxes, not struggling Middle-class Americans like themselves. (Although the middle-class now consists of people earning 3x or more of the national median income.)

  70. It is a shame that so many commentators (Tyler Durden from ZeroHedge, Pat Buchanon above) simply CANNOT use direct quotes without somehow changing them to fit their own little agendas…

    I will simply not read Tyler Durden anymore because so many facts are ‘rearranged’ to fit…

    This is the same with the above article, Netanyahu actually said in Hebrew that they were sitting down to discuss war with Iran whilst he was in Poland… this was then tweeted by his office and then changed when it became apparent that his words had not gone down well.

    Trust rightwing bloggers to change this. Pat you have changed this to suit because if you had left this fact unchanged and introduced the word Apartheid into your article it would have a very different feel alltogether.

    Shame on you Pat Buchanon

    • Replies: @RonaldB
    You must be looking at the wrong article. This one does not even mention, let alone quote, Pat Buchanan.
  71. “Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts blamed “generations of discrimination” for black families earning far less than white households.”

    What, nothing for the Indians (feather, not dot)?

  72. @AndrewR
    Refute it then, champ.

    Classic millennial move: Call out someone for displaying traits of “boomerism,” then run and hide when called on it.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Lol chill, I'm a "millennial"
  73. So DNA tests if you want the money? or the old brown paper bag test?

    • Replies: @Hail

    DNA tests if you want the money
     
    Proposal:

    Determinant of beneficiary status -- Any person shall receive 0.333% of median community income for each 1.0% Subsaharan ancestry found. (Sponsored by 23andMe.)

    Example: A 90% Subsaharan would get 30% of annual salary via reparations (.9*.333). Deliverable by a Reparations Card that reloads on the 15th of every month (in honor of Saint MLK Day), minus what the same person would owe according to share of European ancestry (see below).

    Determinant of payer status -- For an employed person, a 0.1% racial surtax for each 1.0% of NWEuropean ancestry as determined by 23andMe, and a 0.05% racial surtax for other European ancestry. (Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry exempt.)

    Example: A man testing 80% NW European, 20% Other European would be subject to the following racial surtax:

    - 0.1% rate for the 80% NW European = 8% racial surtax
    - .05% rate for the 20% Other European = 1% racial surtax
    = Total racial surtax on income: 9%.

    Note: According to this reparations scheme, 60%-European Henry Louis Gates would be a net contributor and not a beneficiary. Barack Obama would also be a net contributor.

  74. @Jim Christian
    I smell danger, myself. All these lists, as they ignore Hillary, waiting in the wings. Who sat quietly while the other Democrat ladies immolated over Smollett. Anyone wanna bet Bill told her to clam? He's a smart bastard, Bill. This way, Hillary will get no such questions of falling for the hoax. As the Democrats fall to the wayside one-by-one, a simple draft at the Convention gets the party off the hook from the field of morons and charlatans, giving Hillary the nomination without the load of running throughout the primaries. Tanned, rested and ready, Baby!

    Bet your ass, given the chance again, Hillary will actually listen to Bill, instead of a gay Mook with an armful of printouts. She had perhaps the greatest late-stage political strategist since Robert Kennedy RIGHT THERE in the form of Bill Clinton and ignored him in favor of a Mook. That particular mistake won't be made again. Leave Hillary off the table of choices at your peril, if you're counting on the incompetent candidates the Democrats are showing today to lose to Trump, including Biden. Her campaign started by keeping her mouth shut on Smollett. She's not done by a damned sight.

    I think it’s more likely that it’s Michelle Obama who is quietly waiting in the wings. She personally may not be all that enthused about running or being President, but she has Obama and Jarrett giving her pep talks and assuring her she’d be the figurehead President while they’d actually be running things.

    • Replies: @Jim Christian
    I think she and Baraq are done with it all. Perhaps they don't have the evil drives the Clintons do. Or maybe, just maybe, they're too lazy to be of assistance. Everyone Baraq Hussein gives a speech for loses.
    , @Diversity Heretic
    Agreed; of the two, I think Michelle Obama is the more likely candidate. Hillary Clinton does not look well in the photos I've seen (not that I look for them). She might be able to coast to the nomination, but she would have to do some limited campaigning and I'm not sure she's up even for that. Michelle, by contrast, could go through a fairly vigorous, if tightly scripted campaign.

    I still think it will be Kamala Harris, however; both nominee and next presdident. God help us!
  75. @duncsbaby
    Classic millennial move: Call out someone for displaying traits of "boomerism," then run and hide when called on it.

    Lol chill, I’m a “millennial”

  76. When do we start paying out the repatriations?

  77. @Anon
    It's beginning to look like Biden may win the Democratic primary--lesser of all the evils syndrome. But I doubt any politician who has ever served in the US Senate will personally vote for him, especially the ones with female offspring.

    It's going to be hilarious watching the Democrats try to work up fervor oven Biden. They're going to be in drunken despair even before election day if they have to do that.

    He’ll pick Harris as his running mate, and that might be enough to get the Dems excited.

  78. @AnotherDad
    As i've mentioned before, i'm 100% in favor of reparations to blacks for their ancestors being enslaved and taken from Africa.

    Any reparations rewards should be age adjusted, but i'm willing to go as high as $100,000 for any fertile age black who is willing to relinquish their American citizenship, and taking all their children with them, return to Africa.

    I’m in favor of that, too, but let’s be real. That’s never going to be proposed, much less implemented. It’s a fantasy. Besides — there would still be too many other radical Leftists remaining in the country, continuing to tear us apart.

    I want an amicable divorce (sucession) but, since that is equally unlikely, my plan, when I’m no longer working full-time and can work from home, is what I keep saying in comments on the website — move to a Red state and help make it even redder and, thus, repellant to Lefties. Surround myself with like-minded people to the extent possible and tune out the rest.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad

    I’m in favor of that, too, but let’s be real. That’s never going to be proposed, much less implemented. It’s a fantasy.
     
    Of course, it's a fantasy. (I have the same desire for succession as you, but unfortunately the odds are very low.)

    But the point of these proposals--whether reparations-only-with-repatriation or separation--isn't "oh we can make this happen" it's education.

    Specifically, the point of these proposals is to rip the mask off and reveal the fraud of this ideology of minoritarianism.

    Saying "let's separate" is a way to reveal that the coalition of fringes is in fact not oppressed by white guys but parasitic on them. The fringes don't want white guys to leave them alone, they demand that white guys feed them. Blacks don't want to go back to Africa, or have their own nation--they live 20 or 30 times better in the US then in any nation blacks run themselves. Jews don't want to go to Israel--which is a pretty nice place--because it's very very nice to middle man and have comfy establishment sinecures in a big, rich, law-abiding nation of the sort that the Covington boys build. The Latinos don't want to fend for themselves as Latinos, they or their parents or ancestors left Latin America precisely to escape Latino built nations for a white build nation. Ditto Indians, Chinese, other Asians--white guy built America seemed like such a better deal they bailed on their on nations to come. And, of course, single women *really* don't want to fend for themselves--they produce almost nothing--they simply want the government to take stuff from white guys and give it to them, without having to make the usual bargain women make with men to enjoy the value of their labor.

    The "reparations-with-repatriation" proposal strips naked this joke narrative of black "oppression" and points out that the big winners from American slavery are ... American blacks! The enslavement of their ancestors was like winning the lottery! Africans are scrambling--scrapping up family savings, risking death--to get themselves into white nations. American blacks are handed that at birth for free!
  79. @Potato eater
    MSM seems to favor Kamala currently. Heard Rush Limbaugh’s show and he believes the political coven working out of Obama’s house (Valerie Jarrett and the Obamas apparently live in the same house) is slyly guiding the various Dem candidates onto the rocks in order to bring in Michelle Obama at the end. She has the highest favorability of all and of course this would allow Barack back into the White House effectively as co-President (God help us all)

    Agreed.

  80. @Screwtape
    Gibs/MeDat 2020
    ‘We hope for your change’

    Golf clap

  81. The trending rallying cry for reparations on Black Twitter is #ADOS (American Descendants of Slaves).

    “So DNA tests if you want the money?”

    Most white Southerners are one drop negroes, according to 23andme, so I don’t think that would work out how the lefties intend.

  82. I can’t envision any end case where reparations wouldn’t end up as total, complete disaster. This is more preposterous rhetoric than “The Wall just got 10 feet higher!”

    The more baffling issue for me is: why now? It’s been more than 150 years since the Civil War, long enough that it’s essentially ancient history for most people nowadays (especially younger ones). Were there ever a time for reparations, it would have been immediately after the war. But a century and a half later? Many (if not vast majority) of white people in U.S. are not even directly responsible for slavery—or will only descendents of slave owners pay?

    Whatever the statute of limitations for reparations is, it’s certainly ran out long ago. Not even Israelis hold all Germans as culpable for the Holocaust, which was more recent and far more deleterious than slavery was.

    • Replies: @shockedinto
    Reparations shortly after the War would have restarted the war with 13 states and all the tribes declaring for independence and the rump USA in no mood for another blood bath. Overall a much to be wished for result that would have kept the CSA and the USA out of WWI and prevented WWII. There would only have been only one not-so-Great War. Some history buffs would be aware of it as the War of 1914, a sequel to the War of 1870. No numbered wars at all. France and Russia permanently tamed.

    Reparations in the early 20th century would have never happened, and if somehow imposed would have resulted in open revolt and a complete de-fanging of the central government.

    Reparations in the later 20th century would also have never have happened. During the Cold War, our betters needed us Deplorables.

    Reparations are right on schedule.
  83. Instead of direct reparations or your suggested right to sell marijuana, how about giving all blacks the license to sell official N-word passes?

  84. I can see the Kingfish plotting to get Andy’s share already.

  85. @Potato eater
    MSM seems to favor Kamala currently. Heard Rush Limbaugh’s show and he believes the political coven working out of Obama’s house (Valerie Jarrett and the Obamas apparently live in the same house) is slyly guiding the various Dem candidates onto the rocks in order to bring in Michelle Obama at the end. She has the highest favorability of all and of course this would allow Barack back into the White House effectively as co-President (God help us all)

    Stop worrying about Michelle. She is too lazy. By all rights, she should be the new Shadow Senator from D.C., using it as a stepping stone. And don’t think she’ll run for Barky and ValJar’s sake. She’s done enough in that area already.

  86. The Federal free money machine will falter when we have a dollar crisis and rising inflation, and then all the guns and butter and reparations will need to be paid for with taxes and not borrowings. That’s when we will really get political conflict when hard choices need to be made.

  87. @TTSSYF
    I think it's more likely that it's Michelle Obama who is quietly waiting in the wings. She personally may not be all that enthused about running or being President, but she has Obama and Jarrett giving her pep talks and assuring her she'd be the figurehead President while they'd actually be running things.

    I think she and Baraq are done with it all. Perhaps they don’t have the evil drives the Clintons do. Or maybe, just maybe, they’re too lazy to be of assistance. Everyone Baraq Hussein gives a speech for loses.

  88. @AndrewR
    I think that, in the last 50+ years, blacks have received far more in unearned compensation than was ever stolen from their ancestors in labor, even if we add in a surcharge for pain and suffering and multiply it by a high interest rate.
  89. @Joe, Averaged
    They could shrewdly be playing the role of pace cars, making a saner Bernie seem better in the end.

    Isn’t it just as plausible that this is intended to see President Trump reelected?

    Just look up and down this thread — gullible white guys already anxious to vote again.

  90. @Anon
    In a diverse nation, who's going to be paying for the reparations? Mexicans and Asians along with whites?

    I would go further. I call for Class reparations. Since generations of white working class did the heavy lifting but the owner class(white and Jewish) got most of the profits, I say let's have race reparations and class reparations. I also call for overseas peon reparations. US companies have been using semi-slave labor in nations like Mexico and China to maximize their profits. Those workers deserve huge bonuses.

    Tax the elites at 99%. Burn the whole system down.

    Btw, how about reparations for Indians? Since Immigration led to their demise, reparations for Indians call for end to all future immigration. Casinos just don't do it.

    Additionally, Anon [358], we can achieve true cosmic justice only if we ensure that each individual’s payout is based on the actual percentage of enslaved ancestors. As an example, a mulatto (jewlatto???) such as the esteemed Mr. Smollett , should receive half what a full blooded member would. It would probably be a bridge too far, but maybe his white half could be dunned for the black half’s payout. Such would scarcely be more ludicrous than most of the proposals made with straight faces by our dear proggy friends.

  91. @Anon
    Interesting. Very interesting. Trump's going to win the Hispanic vote in 2020. Where would the money have to come from? Taxpayers. A cut is going to be taken out of the paycheck of every Hispanic wage earner in the US, meaning a group of people who never owned slaves and most of whom weren't even in the US during the whole Jim Crow era are going to be required to cough up money. They're going to bolt to the Republicans if Dems go for this. They're going to be raving mad.


    Whites, of course, will stampede to Trump. Even my die-hard liberal parents would freak out if a chunk of their retirement income is yanked away and paid to a group of people who never experienced slavery. Most blacks living in this day and age have never even experienced Jim Crow laws.


    What's more, black have received massive welfare aid from whites for decades now. This may be the straw that breaks the Democratic Party's back. About half of the Baby Boomers are retired, and the other half is close to it, and they're going to be furious if they're required to pay because their retirement will take a hit. You can't make significant payments to 33 million people without making a massive dent in the economy.

    It’s not clear that the reparations are only intended for blacks… or that the money will come from taxpayers as a whole instead of just whites … or that it will ever stop.

    It doesn’t have to make sense. The wolves are closing in on their prey.

  92. @prime noticer
    "Interesting. Very interesting. Trump’s going to win the Hispanic vote in 2020. Where would the money have to come from? Taxpayers. A cut is going to be taken out of the paycheck of every Hispanic wage earner in the US, meaning a group of people who never owned slaves and most of whom weren’t even in the US during the whole Jim Crow era are going to be required to cough up money."

    that's nonsense.

    who will pay? the usual people will pay. middle class and upper class europeans. the law will be written to be racially specific. the money won't be taken out of every american's paycheck. only the americans who 'deserve payback'. me. steve. the posters here. they'll have the IRS enforce it by forcing you to identify yourself on your tax returns. just like PPACA. they'll check the census, check your IRS forms, and levy the tax on you.

    democrats will be very upfront about this. mexicans - YOU WON'T PAY. don't worry. vote for us. it will be john q smith who will pay, not you. this is a win win election for you. vote democrat in 2020.

    the idea that the democrats will levy some kind of broad, widespread tax or fine on the general population is total baloney. they know who they want to pay.

    there's NO BETTER WAY to get africans to turn out at 99% for you than to promise something like this.

    In any event, the majority of white and asian people pay net federal income tax.

    The solid majority of Africans don’t.

    Just funding things through the income tax would target whites and Asians fairly effectively.

  93. It seems like Hillary is going to have to be even more extreme when she jumps back into the race, so I imagine she is going to have to go with:

    1. Reparations for all LGBT and PoC!
    2. Gun confiscation (and she has been thinking that way since at least 2015).

    Then, after that, Cory Booker is probably going to have to go with:

    Kill the white debils!

    (Yeah, I know he has already announced, but to get any traction he will need to be more extreme.)

    If Cory doesn’t go for it, maybe Kamala will.

  94. @Mr McKenna
    I dunno, she looks like the kind of leader we need..

    https://i.ibb.co/qNq0qsG/AOC-3C.jpg

    Meanwhile... One flaw in the political calculus may be that (additional) reparations will appeal only to voters whom the Dems already own. So this must be grandstanding for the primary battles only. Sort of fun when you look at it that way.

    Oh, look, Photoshop! That’s going to win hearts and minds in many kindergardens and primary schools across the country.

  95. @Anon
    Interesting. Very interesting. Trump's going to win the Hispanic vote in 2020. Where would the money have to come from? Taxpayers. A cut is going to be taken out of the paycheck of every Hispanic wage earner in the US, meaning a group of people who never owned slaves and most of whom weren't even in the US during the whole Jim Crow era are going to be required to cough up money. They're going to bolt to the Republicans if Dems go for this. They're going to be raving mad.


    Whites, of course, will stampede to Trump. Even my die-hard liberal parents would freak out if a chunk of their retirement income is yanked away and paid to a group of people who never experienced slavery. Most blacks living in this day and age have never even experienced Jim Crow laws.


    What's more, black have received massive welfare aid from whites for decades now. This may be the straw that breaks the Democratic Party's back. About half of the Baby Boomers are retired, and the other half is close to it, and they're going to be furious if they're required to pay because their retirement will take a hit. You can't make significant payments to 33 million people without making a massive dent in the economy.

    How do we fund this? Easy, gift title to non-wilderness BLM and Forest Service acreage to slave decendants. The can retain the land or sell as they wish.

    Pit the reparations crowd against the environmentalists.

  96. @Potato eater
    MSM seems to favor Kamala currently. Heard Rush Limbaugh’s show and he believes the political coven working out of Obama’s house (Valerie Jarrett and the Obamas apparently live in the same house) is slyly guiding the various Dem candidates onto the rocks in order to bring in Michelle Obama at the end. She has the highest favorability of all and of course this would allow Barack back into the White House effectively as co-President (God help us all)

    I would love an amendment barring the children and current or former spouses of presidents from ever being president or vice-president. Like the post-FDR two-term limit, in the vein of no more Bush- or Clinton-like dynasties.

  97. @TTSSYF
    I think it's more likely that it's Michelle Obama who is quietly waiting in the wings. She personally may not be all that enthused about running or being President, but she has Obama and Jarrett giving her pep talks and assuring her she'd be the figurehead President while they'd actually be running things.

    Agreed; of the two, I think Michelle Obama is the more likely candidate. Hillary Clinton does not look well in the photos I’ve seen (not that I look for them). She might be able to coast to the nomination, but she would have to do some limited campaigning and I’m not sure she’s up even for that. Michelle, by contrast, could go through a fairly vigorous, if tightly scripted campaign.

    I still think it will be Kamala Harris, however; both nominee and next presdident. God help us!

  98. The national Cult of Negro Veneration will now demand tribute.

  99. @TTSSYF
    I'm in favor of that, too, but let's be real. That's never going to be proposed, much less implemented. It's a fantasy. Besides -- there would still be too many other radical Leftists remaining in the country, continuing to tear us apart.

    I want an amicable divorce (sucession) but, since that is equally unlikely, my plan, when I'm no longer working full-time and can work from home, is what I keep saying in comments on the website -- move to a Red state and help make it even redder and, thus, repellant to Lefties. Surround myself with like-minded people to the extent possible and tune out the rest.

    I’m in favor of that, too, but let’s be real. That’s never going to be proposed, much less implemented. It’s a fantasy.

    Of course, it’s a fantasy. (I have the same desire for succession as you, but unfortunately the odds are very low.)

    But the point of these proposals–whether reparations-only-with-repatriation or separation–isn’t “oh we can make this happen” it’s education.

    Specifically, the point of these proposals is to rip the mask off and reveal the fraud of this ideology of minoritarianism.

    Saying “let’s separate” is a way to reveal that the coalition of fringes is in fact not oppressed by white guys but parasitic on them. The fringes don’t want white guys to leave them alone, they demand that white guys feed them. Blacks don’t want to go back to Africa, or have their own nation–they live 20 or 30 times better in the US then in any nation blacks run themselves. Jews don’t want to go to Israel–which is a pretty nice place–because it’s very very nice to middle man and have comfy establishment sinecures in a big, rich, law-abiding nation of the sort that the Covington boys build. The Latinos don’t want to fend for themselves as Latinos, they or their parents or ancestors left Latin America precisely to escape Latino built nations for a white build nation. Ditto Indians, Chinese, other Asians–white guy built America seemed like such a better deal they bailed on their on nations to come. And, of course, single women *really* don’t want to fend for themselves–they produce almost nothing–they simply want the government to take stuff from white guys and give it to them, without having to make the usual bargain women make with men to enjoy the value of their labor.

    The “reparations-with-repatriation” proposal strips naked this joke narrative of black “oppression” and points out that the big winners from American slavery are … American blacks! The enslavement of their ancestors was like winning the lottery! Africans are scrambling–scrapping up family savings, risking death–to get themselves into white nations. American blacks are handed that at birth for free!

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
    Yes, agreed. Might as well start negotiations with an outrageous offer and, at the very least, we move and expand the Overton window.
    , @Trevor H.
    This response needs to be preserved--edited just a bit--and disseminated as an essay in the form of a call to arms for patriots.

    It's worth noting that the NYT (!) even posted the stat that in any recent ten year period more Africans moved to the United States of their own free will and at their own expense than arrived during the entire 200+ years of the slave trade.

    We can't keep them away. So far. The rewards are just too enticing--irresistible you might say.

  100. @Dr. X
    As a white man with Polish ancestry, I demand reparations from the Germans, the Austrians, the Russians, and the Ottoman Turks.

    Kamala, are you listening???

    Why the Ottomans? All I know about Poles vs Ottomans was that Sobieski and his army marched all the way down to Vienna and whupped the Turks on Sep 11-12 1683. I wasn’t aware that the Turks ever got far enough north to do anything to the Poles.

  101. @Dr. X
    As a white man with Polish ancestry, I demand reparations from the Germans, the Austrians, the Russians, and the Ottoman Turks.

    Kamala, are you listening???

    The Poles weren’t very nice to Jews. I wouldn’t expect much in the way of $$ coming to you.

    • Replies: @Dube
    The Poles weren’t very nice to Jews.

    Complex and interactive. Can you trace the history of these relations since the Treaty of Kalisz in 1264?
    , @Anon
    From about 1300 to the end of WW1 Poland was run by Jews who treated the Poles as the Israelis treat the Palestinians. Except for the royals and aristocrats who turned the country over to the Jews the way Indian Rajahs turned their terrorities over to the English.

    Jews created the myth that the Poles mistreated Jews. The exact opposite is true.
  102. It’s just Communism. They know their base hates the aristocrats and kulaks. What happens after is always sorta murky and left open to optimism. The dictatorship of the proletariat! Yeah, that will bring all the sweetness and light they yearn for.

  103. @eah
    Hated by (((whom)))?

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dz-2F07WoAAFSrR.jpg

    Rowaida Abdelaziz

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/author/rowaida-abdelaziz

    To sumarize her writing career (and to paraphrase John Derbyshire),

    Muslimity-Muslimity-Muslim! Islamity-Islamity-Islam! Whites, Bad! Muslims, Good!

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    Immigrants who are in the Professional Complaining Industry should be deported.
    , @eah
    Thanks -- but that wasn't the point -- while Omar is not American in any real sense, and her presence as a national lawmaker is a farce, I do not hate her -- nor do most Americans, including those on the altright and White Nationalists -- but after her recent not unreasonable comments, she got a lot of hateful pushback from Jews and their sycophants.

    But she did marry her brother; I don't even hate her for that: New Evidence Supports Claims That Ilhan Omar Married Her Brother

    As a result of all the family immigration fraud committed by Somalis, they stopped issuing visas for a while and now American taxpayers must pay for genetic testing to verify family relationships.
  104. @Gordo
    So DNA tests if you want the money? or the old brown paper bag test?

    DNA tests if you want the money

    Proposal:

    Determinant of beneficiary status — Any person shall receive 0.333% of median community income for each 1.0% Subsaharan ancestry found. (Sponsored by 23andMe.)

    Example: A 90% Subsaharan would get 30% of annual salary via reparations (.9*.333). Deliverable by a Reparations Card that reloads on the 15th of every month (in honor of Saint MLK Day), minus what the same person would owe according to share of European ancestry (see below).

    Determinant of payer status — For an employed person, a 0.1% racial surtax for each 1.0% of NWEuropean ancestry as determined by 23andMe, and a 0.05% racial surtax for other European ancestry. (Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry exempt.)

    Example: A man testing 80% NW European, 20% Other European would be subject to the following racial surtax:

    – 0.1% rate for the 80% NW European = 8% racial surtax
    – .05% rate for the 20% Other European = 1% racial surtax
    = Total racial surtax on income: 9%.

    Note: According to this reparations scheme, 60%-European Henry Louis Gates would be a net contributor and not a beneficiary. Barack Obama would also be a net contributor.

  105. @Reg Cæsar
    Who could be so heartless as to oppose repatriations?

    Oh, wait... I think I read that wrong.

    Who could be so heartless as to oppose repatriations?

    Oh, wait… I think I read that wrong.

    LOL!

    As to “reparations,” I’m wondering what exactly will be “repaired,” because I think those two words are related. Will they start doing better in school? Will they commit less crime? Will they stop having kids as single moms at age 17?

    If the answer to any of these questions is “no” there’s no point in paying reparations…unless you really want to see lots of purple Escalades with 28″ chrome wheels on them. (I personally don’t.)

    Still, this is a pleasant surprise for me. It turns out it’s not only the new radically leftist House, but the emerging field of Democratic presidential candidates who’ve joined The Committee to Reelect Trump.

  106. If these are Bernie’s supporters, who are Karmasutra’s?

  107. @Anon
    Taxes don't work that way. It's illegal. Everyone with income will be taxed, including working blacks. Yes, some blacks will pay for their own reparations.

    Exactly.

    One of the worst arguments against reparations is the “my ancestors weren’t here during slavery so why should I pay” argument.

    If you are a citizen, you take on the benefits and the obligations of the US. Those who came later get the benefits of my ancestors who fought in the various wars from King Phillips War on, and they share the debts and obligations., including the National Debt and all Treaty obligations.

    In the unlikely event there are reparations, all Americans will and should share the burden.

    And yes, that would mean Oprah would pay far more than she would receive.

  108. @AnotherDad

    I’m in favor of that, too, but let’s be real. That’s never going to be proposed, much less implemented. It’s a fantasy.
     
    Of course, it's a fantasy. (I have the same desire for succession as you, but unfortunately the odds are very low.)

    But the point of these proposals--whether reparations-only-with-repatriation or separation--isn't "oh we can make this happen" it's education.

    Specifically, the point of these proposals is to rip the mask off and reveal the fraud of this ideology of minoritarianism.

    Saying "let's separate" is a way to reveal that the coalition of fringes is in fact not oppressed by white guys but parasitic on them. The fringes don't want white guys to leave them alone, they demand that white guys feed them. Blacks don't want to go back to Africa, or have their own nation--they live 20 or 30 times better in the US then in any nation blacks run themselves. Jews don't want to go to Israel--which is a pretty nice place--because it's very very nice to middle man and have comfy establishment sinecures in a big, rich, law-abiding nation of the sort that the Covington boys build. The Latinos don't want to fend for themselves as Latinos, they or their parents or ancestors left Latin America precisely to escape Latino built nations for a white build nation. Ditto Indians, Chinese, other Asians--white guy built America seemed like such a better deal they bailed on their on nations to come. And, of course, single women *really* don't want to fend for themselves--they produce almost nothing--they simply want the government to take stuff from white guys and give it to them, without having to make the usual bargain women make with men to enjoy the value of their labor.

    The "reparations-with-repatriation" proposal strips naked this joke narrative of black "oppression" and points out that the big winners from American slavery are ... American blacks! The enslavement of their ancestors was like winning the lottery! Africans are scrambling--scrapping up family savings, risking death--to get themselves into white nations. American blacks are handed that at birth for free!

    Yes, agreed. Might as well start negotiations with an outrageous offer and, at the very least, we move and expand the Overton window.

  109. @Jack D
    I hope you are wrong. Trump's best hope for 2020 is that the Dems run a far left candidate so that when given the choice between the Fascist and the Socialist, even college whites will opt for the Fascist.

    This kind of pandering to blacks is completely unnecessary. They are already all chained to the Democrat party anyway. What are they going to do , vote 110% Democrat? And college whites love to virtue signal when it is free, but TRILLIONS of $ of reparations is not free - it would have to come out of the hide of every taxpayer. So why are they pushing this? Just because they can? Do they think that Trump is going to be so toxic that they can push the nation far to the left and STILL win?

    ” why are they pushing this? …”

    Because, like climate change meme, it might just win, giving Democrat/cultural Marxist bureaucrats a vast new pot of resources to gain unearned wealth and power to themselves.

    One has to view every such humongous initiative as a feint to make even more resources flow through the government’s digestive system, providing unlimited opportunities for gaining personal power and advancement in the bureaucratic swamp, which means the real power in government.

    Is there a downside to proposing reparations? I don’t think so. They will lose the votes of people who would not have voted for them anyway. Years of self-censorship and collaboration by the MSM will dampen any sort of identity criticism of reparations, which is the only criticism that makes sense.

  110. Interesting; is this the first chink showing in Kamala’s armor? It’s been claimed that she is a bit dim, and this might be her first mistake. She will ether have to figure on how to walk this back after the primaries, or she’ll get Trump re-elected. Reparations is a losing proposition unless they can be framed as; we didn’t really mean guaranteed income for Blacks, just more like turbocharged affirmitave action. Her statement was ambiguous enough that she can pull that off but only if she acts quickly enough to unpin the R word that was pinned on her by the radio program.

    • Replies: @Anon

    It’s been claimed that she is a bit dim, and this might be her first mistake.
     
    Her public, knee-jerk support of Smollett wasn't dumb enough for ya? She's a mediocrity promoted way beyond her level of competence. No charisma, no standout intelligence, no ideas. Just another suit-filler who thinks it's her turn. She thought following Obama's ritual of meeting with Al Sharpton and eating chick'n and waffles at a Harlem restaurant would get her the nod. Instead of you know, doing something to make herself stand out in a positive way. At least Obama had superficial charm going for him.
  111. @Hail
    U Mass Amherst poll
    New Hampshire Dem Primary Likely Voters (n=337)
    Release date, Feb. 20, 2019 (pdf)
    (Reflects polling Feb. 7 to 15; 52 weeks out from 2020 NH Primary)

    First Tier
    29% Biden
    20% Bernie
    14% Harris
    9% Warren

    Second Tier (= the brief article I saw did not mention any of the below names)
    6% Beto
    3% Booker
    3% Gillibrand
    2% Bloomberg

    Third Tier
    1% Castro
    1% Klobuchar
    3% All Others

    9% Undecided and not leaning towards any candidate

    _______________

    The poll also reveals each candidate's "base," at least for New Hampshire and about eleven months before the primary season begins in earnest. These are the subdemographics that lend each candidate his/her strongest support (see pdf p.4) (caveat, small sample size) :

    Warren
    - Age 30+
    - Income <$40k
    - Liberal

    Harris
    - Age 55+
    - Postgraduate degree
    - Liberal

    Gillibrand
    - Women
    - Age <55
    - Undergraduate degree
    - Income over $100k

    Klobuchar
    - Moderate

    Booker
    - At least some college
    - Moderate

    Sanders
    - Men
    - Strongly age under 55, especially 30-54
    - No college degree
    - Income <$40k
    - Liberal

    Biden
    - Age over 55
    - Income $40k to $100k
    - Moderate

    O'Rourke
    - Age 18 to 29
    - At least some college
    - Liberal

    Castro
    (No base)

    Bloomberg
    (No base)

    Warren
    – Age 30+
    – Income <$40k
    – Liberal

    Harris
    – Age 55+
    – Postgraduate degree
    – Liberal

    Amazing. I would have expected those to be reversed. I guess I really don’t understand here. Anyone have any insights to offer why the voters would break this way?

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    I’ll give it a shot

    Harris is part of the Democratic Party establishment. She has been in politics a long time. She appeals to the establishment Democrats, who are generally older and richer.

    Warren is a relative newcomer, despite her age. She worked as an advocate for working class Americans before entering the Senate. Her policies are seen as more similar to Bernie Sanders, who, like Betty White, has a great appeal to young people. She is more on the dissident fringe of the Party, which appeals to the younger and poorer Democrats.

    Sanders, and to an extent Warren, are an example of how the pendulum swings. Decades ago the Democratic Party appealed mostly to white, working class Americans. Then the Party went after the identity politics upper middle class voters. These days, there are lots of young white adults who are facing a world where they cannot expect to live as well as their parents. That makes them more inclined to favor the populists, who are often older Democrats.

    Put on your Weavers records and grab some popcorn
    , @Hail
    The Warren base could reflect a "local favorite" dynamic (she taught at Harvard from mid 1990s; widely known from her Senate run in 2012 for MA seat which she has held from Jan. 2013 to present; reelected Nov. 2018). This might correlate to some degree with lower SES.

    The exotic Black-Hindu Kamala, meanwhile, gets the Wannabe World Citizen vote?

    ___________

    I would note the poll is for (the highly White) New Hampshire only -- an early attempt to guesstimate the all-important mid-Feb. 2020 NH primary result; The voters in the 2016 NH D primary were 91% White, 9% Nonwhite (it would have been even Whiter still had a sizable share of normal D primary voters not instead voted in the explosive R primary)

    -- White vote: Bernie 61 - 37 Hillary
    -- Nonwhite vote: Bernie 52 - 45 Hillary

    Bernie being the local (next state) guy, of course. There may be a direct Warren parallel.

  112. @Jack D
    I hope you are wrong. Trump's best hope for 2020 is that the Dems run a far left candidate so that when given the choice between the Fascist and the Socialist, even college whites will opt for the Fascist.

    This kind of pandering to blacks is completely unnecessary. They are already all chained to the Democrat party anyway. What are they going to do , vote 110% Democrat? And college whites love to virtue signal when it is free, but TRILLIONS of $ of reparations is not free - it would have to come out of the hide of every taxpayer. So why are they pushing this? Just because they can? Do they think that Trump is going to be so toxic that they can push the nation far to the left and STILL win?

    This kind of pandering to blacks is completely unnecessary. They are already all chained to the Democrat party anyway.

    The issue at hand is the primary (do you think these people think long term?). Where pandering to blacks does appear to be necessary.

    Of course I imagine the pivot for the general election will be neck snapping.

    As another commenter mentioned, which Democrat can say no to reparations once it is on the table as a serious possibility?

  113. @Mr McKenna
    And the colossal cost to white people of living in a society afflicted by negroes is never, ever factored in. Not a white person alive had anything to do with this affliction--not even our ancestors, in most cases--yet we all pay, day in and day out.

    This country has been half-destroyed by negroes over the past several decades, and the only 'solutions' being proposed involve ramping up the destruction.

    Negroes would have had zero opportunity to damage the country were it not for pathologically altruistic whites enabling them.

    The war in Western lands isn’t between whites and non-whites, it’s between pathologically-altruistic cat-rescue-hoarder lunatic whites and the rest of whites.

    It’s white vs white. This is the antebellem period prior to the resumption of the English Civil War.

  114. My idea of reparations for slavery is:

    (1) a one-way, all expenses paid trip back to the ancestral African homeland;

    (2) a negotiated, government-to-government, stripping of US citizenship and it’s replacement with citizenship in the ancestral land; [This will probably entail large bribes to officials in the ancestral lands, cleverly disguised as some form of foreign aid.]

    (3) a $10,000 resettlement fee; [This should go a long way in the ancestral lands.]

    (4) a permanent loss of US citizenship and removal from the US ifor those entering the reparations program.

    Negro descendants of slaves will have a five-year window to apply for the reparations program. After this all affirmative action programs will be abolished and any further such programs will become serious violations of federal law. Promoting, facilitating or benefiting in any way from such programs will become a felony with severe penalties for offenders. In addition, all race-based federal laws and programs will be eliminated or restructured on a race blind basis. Finally, all laws against private race discrimination, e.g., in housing, hiring, association, etc., will be abolished.

    A statue of Marcus Garvey, comparable in size to the Statue of Liberty and erected on Ellis Island will then be built to commemorate this happy repatriation. It will be designed with Garvey pointing towards Africa with his right arm and gesturing c’mon with his left.

  115. @Colin Wright
    For it is evil things we shall be fighting.

    '...Last week, on the popular radio show “The Breakfast Club,” Senator Kamala Harris of California agreed with a host’s suggestion that government reparations for black Americans were necessary to address the legacies of slavery and discrimination. Ms. Harris later affirmed that support in a statement to The New York Times.

    “We have to be honest that people in this country do not start from the same place or have access to the same opportunities,” she said. “I’m serious about taking an approach that would change policies and structures and make real investments in black communities.”

    Ms. Warren also said she supported reparations for black Americans impacted by slavery...'


    'Trump 2020. Do you actually have a choice?'

    “Trump 2020. Do you actually have a choice?’”

    Here is the logic. Let me know if you disagree with the premises.

    Trump is not stopping, or even slowing, the destruction and replacement of traditional America.
    Immigration, legal and illegal, is booming and increasing.
    Deficit continues to explode, leading to either hyperinflation or the selling of the US.
    Wars having nothing to do with US security are continuing and expanding (Venezuela).
    Birthright citizenship, chain migration, and the asylum scam are exploding present number of migrants.

    Conclusion: even with Trump, the path to losing is inevitable.

    Therefore, given a choice between losing the fight with Trump, who served one term and broke his promises, or losing the fight with a cultural-Marxist who is explicit about following horrible policies, the vote of the patriot should go to: the cultural-Marxist.

    The reasoning is that those who promise and don’t deliver will be turned out of office immediately. If we have the time left after one term of a far-leftist, the next candidate running on immigration patriotism will know he has to keep his promises.

    It’s a risky strategy, but the only with with a possible path to maintaining the country as it is.

  116. @res

    Warren
    – Age 30+
    – Income <$40k
    – Liberal

    Harris
    – Age 55+
    – Postgraduate degree
    – Liberal
     
    Amazing. I would have expected those to be reversed. I guess I really don't understand here. Anyone have any insights to offer why the voters would break this way?

    I’ll give it a shot

    Harris is part of the Democratic Party establishment. She has been in politics a long time. She appeals to the establishment Democrats, who are generally older and richer.

    Warren is a relative newcomer, despite her age. She worked as an advocate for working class Americans before entering the Senate. Her policies are seen as more similar to Bernie Sanders, who, like Betty White, has a great appeal to young people. She is more on the dissident fringe of the Party, which appeals to the younger and poorer Democrats.

    Sanders, and to an extent Warren, are an example of how the pendulum swings. Decades ago the Democratic Party appealed mostly to white, working class Americans. Then the Party went after the identity politics upper middle class voters. These days, there are lots of young white adults who are facing a world where they cannot expect to live as well as their parents. That makes them more inclined to favor the populists, who are often older Democrats.

    Put on your Weavers records and grab some popcorn

    • Replies: @res
    Thanks. That makes sense (though I am not sure it is sufficient). It also fits in with Warren's recent wealth tax proposal (which I forgot about while writing my initial comment).

    Put on your Weavers records and grab some popcorn
     
    Indeed.
  117. @Hail
    Rowaida Abdelaziz

    https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5c1283ae2200000507deb340.jpg

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/author/rowaida-abdelaziz

    To sumarize her writing career (and to paraphrase John Derbyshire),

    Muslimity-Muslimity-Muslim! Islamity-Islamity-Islam! Whites, Bad! Muslims, Good!
     

    Immigrants who are in the Professional Complaining Industry should be deported.

  118. @Asagirian
    Why would the other members of the coalition of the fringes support reparations for blacks, and only blacks?

    Actually they might because blacks are regarded as so holy. Most people are suckers, and they go along with whatever the Power fills their silly minds with. Most people simply don't have the autonomy of mind, wider vision, and deeper understanding to find their own truths. Having limited grasp of reality and integrity, they rely on the Power to tell them what to believe and how to feel. This is why we see so many whites and non-whites putting black interests above theirs. They've been told blacks are special and awesome.

    Moral 'sacralization' of Jews, blacks, and homos had led to a kind of nihilism.
    Why? God or gods are supposed to be above the law. What applies to mortals doesn't apply to gods. Gods live by their own rules... just like Hitler and Stalin were above the laws of the little people; they were like gods.

    We've been told Jews are the eternal holy holocaust people, blacks are the eternal slavery and civil rights movement people, and homos are the new angels. They've been elevated to divine status, and that means their god-like selves are above the conventional rules of morality that applies to most humans, us suckers.
    The paradox of morality is, when you push it too far, it turns into nihilism. If a certain group suffers historical tragedy, it is decent to acknowledge the pain and show sympathy. But if that tragedy is mythologized to elevate that group to sacred status, its members begin to feel innately holy and deserving of praise & worship 24/7. They begin to put on godly airs, and when people act godlike, it's nihilism premised on presumed superiority. So superior indeed that the people of the group don't have to obey the rules that everyone is supposed to abide by.
    This talk of reparations is really demand for offerings. Gods demand offerings. Blacks want burnt offerings. But then, why shouldn't they demand it when they are holy and godlike? Humans exist to make offerings to the gods, don't they not? Well, black gods demand offerings.
    But then, are Jews any different? Why must we go easy on Jewish crooks in Wall Street and Hollywood? Why are there Jewish-only prisons that are more like vacation resorts? Why do we send billions to Israel? Why? Why do we bail out Jewish banks, but these banks can deny us service on grounds of ideology? Why does the US overlook Israel's nukes while making a fuss over Iran's non-existent nukes? Why must we sacrifice free speech to push anti-BDS laws to appease the holy Jews? Why did Jews get to rob Russia in the 90s and get away with it? Why is Jewish Wall Street too big too fail? Why all these expensive Wars for Israel? These are all burnt offerings to Jews.
    And then, the offerings to holy homos. Let them take over entire big city streets and do their 'pride' thing. Fund and celebrate such events to the tune of many millions of dollars. Spend US money to promote globo-homo propaganda all over. Even turn churches into altars to holy homo. Spend untold billions to spread homo propaganda in schools. Meanwhile , use Jewish lawfare to break and destroy a decent Christian baker who won't bend over to bake 'gay wedding cakes'.
    Given what the US does for Holy Jews and Holy Homos, why shouldn't blacks demand offerings too? And of course, these reparations will not be a one-time thing for existing blacks but something that every generation of blacks receive. But when a people have been made holy, they are above the law, above the rules. We, the mortal suckers, live, work, and toil to make offering to special groups because they are presumed to be morally divine because of some past trauma or other.

    Now, God or gods of religion being above the law isn't necessarily nihilistic because there is the assumption that He or they are indeed infinitely wise or privy to great wisdom we humans will never understand. But when humans put on such airs -- as Jews, Negroes, and homos routinely do --, it is pure nihilism because it is the worst kind of conceit for humans to pretend they are anything but human. 'Racism', 'antisemitism', and 'homophobia' really mean "Thou shall not blaspheme against any of the holy three."

    Sacralization of Jews, blacks, and homos has been especially dangerous because those three groups tend to have the most narcissistic and self-centered personality tendencies. Jews with chutzpah, blacks with jive, and homos with vanity. This hyper-moral-drive-into-nihilism must end.

    In a sane world, we would all realize that history moves on. China was weak and humiliated in the 19th century. It was deserving of sympathy then. It was in sad state in WWII too. But history moved on and now China is a great power. It would be stupid to fix our perception of China forever on what happened in WWII or during imperialism.

    Romans were once mighty. They conquered and oppressed Germanic barbarians. But later, the Romans were sacked by the barbarians. Just as it'd be absurd to forever peg Italians as supermen forever because of Roman glory or as super-victims forever because of the tragic sack of Rome, it's utterly stupid to forever fix Jewishness as 'victim of holocaust' and black identity as 'victim of slavery'. It's funny how so-called 'progressives' are pathologically stuck in old narratives and turn them into rigid iconography for all times when, in fact, a particular group in the NOW is nothing like what it was back THEN.
    It's like boxing. At one time, Muhammad Ali was the best boxer, the 'greatest' as he called himself. But time moved on, and things changed. So, when Ali met Holmes, the 'greatest' was only in name. Nothing is permanent in this world, and branding or tattooing certain groups with eternal moral worth based on a single historical event or period is crazy.
    As Jews would have us believe, Germans must forever be defined by their crimes in the Holocaust while Jews must forever be defined by their victimhood in it. And whites(all whites in the US for some reason) must be defined forever with the 'original sin' of slavery while blacks, no matter how foul or violent they act, must forever be fixed as the slavery people. And not any slavery but the slavery under whites. Never mind blacks had slavery in Africa for 10,000 yrs. The whole thing stinks. Smollett's was a neo-pharaoic act. Kang Tut-Tut. "Make me an offering. I'm mulatto god." Wakanda-mania was one such offering. Since blacks are incapable of creating such a society, we must make an offering in fantasy. Yes, master, your wish is my command.

    In a way, these are all neo-christianities because it was Christianity that first fused victimhood with divinity with eternity. Jesus died for our sins, His spirit rose to Heaven, and He offers us salvation to the end of time. Jews, blacks, and homos have been playing this game. Since white folks lost religion, PC sacraments and idols are their neo-christianities.

    But one crucial difference. Jesus, according to myth anyway, chose and accepted His victimhood specifically to share in the suffering of mankind and to offer a way to salvation. In contrast, historical victimhood is never voluntary or noble. It's just a case of 'shit happens' or 'better you than me'. History always had winners and losers, conquerors and conquered. The conquered didn't choose to lose to make some higher moral statement. They were just as ruthless and greedy as the enemies and happened to lose. So, while their victimhood was certainly sad and tragic, it was not noble, moral, or spiritual. If the losers of history could have done something to win, they certainly would have and would have done the same bad shi*. So, the turning historical victimhood into something more than historical tragedies is obscene. While we can sympathize with black plight as slaves, blacks didn't choose to be slaves to suffer and die for the sins of others. Such was the fantasy of idiot women like Harriet Beecher Stowe where a Negro plays christ role in dying for the sins of the white man. Funny that even after all these yrs, we have the same dumb tropes in stuff like GREEN MILE where were are supposed to believe a guy who is the size of both Maga Nigerians put together and then some is really black god come to save white souls. Turning humans into gods is a form of satanism.

    Turning humans into gods is a form of satanism.

    A hundred years ago, Jews couldn’t join certain country clubs for your sins. On your knees!

  119. @Paleo Liberal
    I’ll give it a shot

    Harris is part of the Democratic Party establishment. She has been in politics a long time. She appeals to the establishment Democrats, who are generally older and richer.

    Warren is a relative newcomer, despite her age. She worked as an advocate for working class Americans before entering the Senate. Her policies are seen as more similar to Bernie Sanders, who, like Betty White, has a great appeal to young people. She is more on the dissident fringe of the Party, which appeals to the younger and poorer Democrats.

    Sanders, and to an extent Warren, are an example of how the pendulum swings. Decades ago the Democratic Party appealed mostly to white, working class Americans. Then the Party went after the identity politics upper middle class voters. These days, there are lots of young white adults who are facing a world where they cannot expect to live as well as their parents. That makes them more inclined to favor the populists, who are often older Democrats.

    Put on your Weavers records and grab some popcorn

    Thanks. That makes sense (though I am not sure it is sufficient). It also fits in with Warren’s recent wealth tax proposal (which I forgot about while writing my initial comment).

    Put on your Weavers records and grab some popcorn

    Indeed.

  120. @Whiskey
    I am surprised it took this long. And contra the Boomers, get ready for President Harris if Booker can't unseat her in the primary. I figure he will have to go in even more for reparations.

    MOST Whites support reparations. White women figure it won't apply to them, most are not married, and don't intend to either remarry (divorced from soy-boy Nu Male types) or get married in the first place (aspiring single Moms maybe or cool Box Wine Auntie). Wealthy Boomers figure they got enough to pay up, better to punish those rednecks and deplorables.

    As noted above, no Mexican or Asian will have to pay, it will be racial carve outs for them.

    And note, this is JUST THE BASELINE. The demands will get higher and higher as the candidates bid up for Black support, and likely Mexican support. Special reparations for Mexicans too.

    Indeed if you do the math, Open Borders + Welfare State = White Serfdom. The welfare state with unlimited global immigration can only be paid for by either seizing all the enormous wealth of Bezos, Slim, Gates, Buffett, Zuckerberg, Soros and the like, or making ordinary middle class White people ESPECIALLY WHITE MEN into semi-slaves and seizing all their property.

    It is not as though the wage base for anyone will ever grow with unlimited global wage competition. So that will have to be accomplished by first taking the wealth and property and belongings of ordinary White men and giving them to non Whites, particularly Blacks who essentially run this country (they can never, ever be criticized).

    But that will just get the Federal Government over the initial hump. After that, ordinary White men will have to be drafted into some kind of semi-slavery, to produce wealth in some sort of work camp structure. The Chinese have done this with the Uighurs and no doubt Democrats want some sort of "Social Credit" giant open air prison for White men.

    This is where the demonization of White men has led. Inevitably. Allowing female hypergamy to run wild unchecked has serious, civilization ending and worse consequences. The Poz = Total Female freedom and consumer market domination.

    Don't think that making most White men into semi slaves is not a winning national platform. Pretty much every White woman in America would vote for it. Particularly if it meant they'd be rid of their husbands. Dems figure they have this won.

    Why would married white women voluntarily give up their wage slaves?

  121. @nik1975
    It is a shame that so many commentators (Tyler Durden from ZeroHedge, Pat Buchanon above) simply CANNOT use direct quotes without somehow changing them to fit their own little agendas...

    I will simply not read Tyler Durden anymore because so many facts are 'rearranged' to fit...

    This is the same with the above article, Netanyahu actually said in Hebrew that they were sitting down to discuss war with Iran whilst he was in Poland... this was then tweeted by his office and then changed when it became apparent that his words had not gone down well.

    Trust rightwing bloggers to change this. Pat you have changed this to suit because if you had left this fact unchanged and introduced the word Apartheid into your article it would have a very different feel alltogether.

    Shame on you Pat Buchanon

    You must be looking at the wrong article. This one does not even mention, let alone quote, Pat Buchanan.

  122. @Dr. X
    As a white man with Polish ancestry, I demand reparations from the Germans, the Austrians, the Russians, and the Ottoman Turks.

    Kamala, are you listening???

    Don’t forget the Swedes either.

  123. How about we stop giving stuff to rich Israel and give it to blacks instead? At least blacks are Americans.

  124. “Taxes don’t work that way. It’s illegal. Everyone with income will be taxed, including working blacks. Yes, some blacks will pay for their own reparations.”

    hahahahaha. wait, you were serious? hahahahahahaha.

    talk about not understanding how the new america is going to work.

    “In any event, the majority of white and asian people pay net federal income tax. The solid majority of Africans don’t. Just funding things through the income tax would target whites and Asians fairly effectively.”

    for practical purposes it would. most africans don’t pay income tax already. but you can’t win elections that way. best to make it extremely clear and specific that this tax will be on europeans only. the idea that they can’t do such a thing in the new america, is laughable. PPACA exists. the constitution is long gone. once they have a majority of the supreme court, look out.

    call it a fine. call it a fee. call it a surcharge. use whatever legal or IRS language you have to, if ‘tax’ does not work. justice roberts and the leftist justices are ready to support you. i doubt by 2030 they’ll even have to be sneaky about it or do any legal maneuvering. but for now, they can do the same thing as they did with PPACA. historic american nation is even weaker now than it was for that, so over time, they can get away with more and more.

    the funniest idea is that it’s ‘not fair’ or ‘unconstitutional’. well, they’re just going to outvote you, and that will be that. ‘fair’ and ‘legal’ mean what the person in charge says they mean.

  125. @al-Gharaniq
    I can't envision any end case where reparations wouldn't end up as total, complete disaster. This is more preposterous rhetoric than "The Wall just got 10 feet higher!"

    The more baffling issue for me is: why now? It's been more than 150 years since the Civil War, long enough that it's essentially ancient history for most people nowadays (especially younger ones). Were there ever a time for reparations, it would have been immediately after the war. But a century and a half later? Many (if not vast majority) of white people in U.S. are not even directly responsible for slavery—or will only descendents of slave owners pay?

    Whatever the statute of limitations for reparations is, it's certainly ran out long ago. Not even Israelis hold all Germans as culpable for the Holocaust, which was more recent and far more deleterious than slavery was.

    Reparations shortly after the War would have restarted the war with 13 states and all the tribes declaring for independence and the rump USA in no mood for another blood bath. Overall a much to be wished for result that would have kept the CSA and the USA out of WWI and prevented WWII. There would only have been only one not-so-Great War. Some history buffs would be aware of it as the War of 1914, a sequel to the War of 1870. No numbered wars at all. France and Russia permanently tamed.

    Reparations in the early 20th century would have never happened, and if somehow imposed would have resulted in open revolt and a complete de-fanging of the central government.

    Reparations in the later 20th century would also have never have happened. During the Cold War, our betters needed us Deplorables.

    Reparations are right on schedule.

  126. They want to pay my family reparations for the three great-great uncles who died fighting to end slavery? Sweet ….

  127. @AndrewR
    I think that, in the last 50+ years, blacks have received far more in unearned compensation than was ever stolen from their ancestors in labor, even if we add in a surcharge for pain and suffering and multiply it by a high interest rate.

    This is true, and should be factored in to the reparations.

    Blacks shouldn’t end up owing more than a couple of thousand each. Let’s be nice and let it slide.

  128. @Dr. X
    As a white man with Polish ancestry, I demand reparations from the Germans, the Austrians, the Russians, and the Ottoman Turks.

    Kamala, are you listening???

    As a German, I’ll be happy to have my government send you some money — as soon as we received our reparations from the French who, as doubtlessly you are aware, continuously ravaged and attacked my country from the 17th to the 19th century (Thirty Years War, Louis XIV, Napoleon — he didn’t exactly get to near Moscow by plane, did he?). Heck, even the 1870 and 1914 wars were declared by the French on us, even if propaganda later all but wiped out this knowledge.

    Also, we might want to have a seriously talk with the Magyars, who were a real plague on us in the 10th century.

    Lastly, I trust you Poles will pass on a good chunk of what you get to the Ukrainians, right?

    • Replies: @Dube
    God bless and keep Germany, and may we all calm down until at least Vladimir Putin's reparations claim against Poland is settled for having occupied the Kremlin in 1610.
  129. @res

    Warren
    – Age 30+
    – Income <$40k
    – Liberal

    Harris
    – Age 55+
    – Postgraduate degree
    – Liberal
     
    Amazing. I would have expected those to be reversed. I guess I really don't understand here. Anyone have any insights to offer why the voters would break this way?

    The Warren base could reflect a “local favorite” dynamic (she taught at Harvard from mid 1990s; widely known from her Senate run in 2012 for MA seat which she has held from Jan. 2013 to present; reelected Nov. 2018). This might correlate to some degree with lower SES.

    The exotic Black-Hindu Kamala, meanwhile, gets the Wannabe World Citizen vote?

    ___________

    I would note the poll is for (the highly White) New Hampshire only — an early attempt to guesstimate the all-important mid-Feb. 2020 NH primary result; The voters in the 2016 NH D primary were 91% White, 9% Nonwhite (it would have been even Whiter still had a sizable share of normal D primary voters not instead voted in the explosive R primary)

    — White vote: Bernie 61 – 37 Hillary
    — Nonwhite vote: Bernie 52 – 45 Hillary

    Bernie being the local (next state) guy, of course. There may be a direct Warren parallel.

    • Replies: @res

    The Warren base could reflect a “local favorite” dynamic
     
    That makes sense. Not sure why it would split the demographics that way though.

    The exotic Black-Hindu Kamala, meanwhile, gets the Wannabe World Citizen vote?
     
    Also makes sense. Helps explain the income and degree results, but I would expect age to break the other way given that.
    , @Mr McKenna

    The exotic Black-Hindu Kamala
     
    We call it Hindu-Dindu, thank you very much!
  130. @Hail
    The Warren base could reflect a "local favorite" dynamic (she taught at Harvard from mid 1990s; widely known from her Senate run in 2012 for MA seat which she has held from Jan. 2013 to present; reelected Nov. 2018). This might correlate to some degree with lower SES.

    The exotic Black-Hindu Kamala, meanwhile, gets the Wannabe World Citizen vote?

    ___________

    I would note the poll is for (the highly White) New Hampshire only -- an early attempt to guesstimate the all-important mid-Feb. 2020 NH primary result; The voters in the 2016 NH D primary were 91% White, 9% Nonwhite (it would have been even Whiter still had a sizable share of normal D primary voters not instead voted in the explosive R primary)

    -- White vote: Bernie 61 - 37 Hillary
    -- Nonwhite vote: Bernie 52 - 45 Hillary

    Bernie being the local (next state) guy, of course. There may be a direct Warren parallel.

    The Warren base could reflect a “local favorite” dynamic

    That makes sense. Not sure why it would split the demographics that way though.

    The exotic Black-Hindu Kamala, meanwhile, gets the Wannabe World Citizen vote?

    Also makes sense. Helps explain the income and degree results, but I would expect age to break the other way given that.

  131. @istevefan

    What are they going to do , vote 110% Democrat?
     
    Don't give them ideas. Broward county, Florida will probably try to vote over 100% as well as some other choice locales. Trump might lose to such shenanigans.

    Look up how many felons there are in Florida, whose voting “rights” were “restored”..

    What the Dems can’t make happen with immigrants, they’ll use native-born criminals.

    The sad irony is that most Republicans voted for it too.

    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    The dim-witted Republican female governor of Iowa was instrumental in restoring voting rights of felons. I sometimes think Whiskey is onto something--those criminals getting out of jail give her menopausal psyche the tingles.
  132. @Hail
    The Warren base could reflect a "local favorite" dynamic (she taught at Harvard from mid 1990s; widely known from her Senate run in 2012 for MA seat which she has held from Jan. 2013 to present; reelected Nov. 2018). This might correlate to some degree with lower SES.

    The exotic Black-Hindu Kamala, meanwhile, gets the Wannabe World Citizen vote?

    ___________

    I would note the poll is for (the highly White) New Hampshire only -- an early attempt to guesstimate the all-important mid-Feb. 2020 NH primary result; The voters in the 2016 NH D primary were 91% White, 9% Nonwhite (it would have been even Whiter still had a sizable share of normal D primary voters not instead voted in the explosive R primary)

    -- White vote: Bernie 61 - 37 Hillary
    -- Nonwhite vote: Bernie 52 - 45 Hillary

    Bernie being the local (next state) guy, of course. There may be a direct Warren parallel.

    The exotic Black-Hindu Kamala

    We call it Hindu-Dindu, thank you very much!

    • LOL: Stan d Mute
  133. Here’s to hoping one of them gets in.

  134. @Mr. XYZ
    You forgot to mention the Slovaks here. They helped the Nazis invade Poland back in 1939.

    Poland got part of Czechoslovakia after the Germans seized it in 1938. Very few clean hands in the Big One, WW2.

  135. @Anon
    Taxes don't work that way. It's illegal. Everyone with income will be taxed, including working blacks. Yes, some blacks will pay for their own reparations.

    Good Lord. What are you talking about? Have you never heard of the EITC? Do you know the difference between payroll taxes and income tax?

  136. The irony is that reparations would inspire the biggest binge of flat screen TV and Cadillac shopping in all of American history and in 3 years the wealth distribution would be back to were it was before.

    During the government shutdown, at some point they gave every beneficiary 2 months of food stamps in advance, clearly telling them “These are your benefits for January AND February. Please ration your spending so that you won’t use them up before you get your next benefit recharge on March 1. Sho’ nuff, there are all sorts of stories of people running out of food now (presumably a lot of steak was sold in January).

    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    If reparations talk begins to get serious, I'm going long on malt liquor brewers and distributors!
    , @GermanReader2
    There are just some people, who cannot save money. My parents have an acquaintance whose income is equivalent to someone drawing a salary of 90 000€ a year (about 100 000 USD). Even though he has no dependants, he cannot make ends meet and has debt, because he constantly overspends. For instance when one of his relatives passed away and he was told, he and his brother would inherit the 10 000 € in her checking account, he spent an additional 5 000€ in the next week. When it turned out that the inheritance was a lot smaller than anticipated (2000€ instead of 5000), his debt grew by 3000).
  137. Dube [AKA "Gene Dobry"] says:
    @stillCARealist
    The Poles weren't very nice to Jews. I wouldn't expect much in the way of $$ coming to you.

    The Poles weren’t very nice to Jews.

    Complex and interactive. Can you trace the history of these relations since the Treaty of Kalisz in 1264?

    • Replies: @Dube
    Sorry, STATUTE of Kalisz.
  138. Dube [AKA "Gene Dobry"] says:
    @Herzog
    As a German, I'll be happy to have my government send you some money -- as soon as we received our reparations from the French who, as doubtlessly you are aware, continuously ravaged and attacked my country from the 17th to the 19th century (Thirty Years War, Louis XIV, Napoleon -- he didn't exactly get to near Moscow by plane, did he?). Heck, even the 1870 and 1914 wars were declared by the French on us, even if propaganda later all but wiped out this knowledge.

    Also, we might want to have a seriously talk with the Magyars, who were a real plague on us in the 10th century.

    Lastly, I trust you Poles will pass on a good chunk of what you get to the Ukrainians, right?

    God bless and keep Germany, and may we all calm down until at least Vladimir Putin’s reparations claim against Poland is settled for having occupied the Kremlin in 1610.

  139. Dube [AKA "Gene Dobry"] says:
    @Dube
    The Poles weren’t very nice to Jews.

    Complex and interactive. Can you trace the history of these relations since the Treaty of Kalisz in 1264?

    Sorry, STATUTE of Kalisz.

  140. @passive-aggressivist
    "Redlining" is apparently now the black equivalent of "the Holocaust™."

    https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=redlining

    Actually, redlining is not what it is presented as: a move to deny mortgages in poor areas to poor people.

    Redlining was the practice of keeping neighborhoods homogeneous, which meant keeping white neighborhoods white, or perhaps refining down to particular ethnic groups. This allowed a high level of trust between neighbors and allowed the existence of cohesive neighborhood groups.

    The redlining was carried out primarily by real estate agents, who simply didn’t show houses off to potential buyers who didn’t fit in. There were plenty of high-quality black neighborhoods and nicely-maintained houses owned by blacks. I was in many of them. But there was a limitation where they, like others, could buy homes.

    Chicago and the federal government made draconian laws against the practice of redlining, helping to result in deteriorating neighborhoods, less sense of cohesion, and a higher sense of anomie in citizens. In other words, people had fewer friendships, fewer roots in the neighborhood, and fewer cultural institutions to support them. In my opinion, with no facts at my command, I believe this is a factor in the lower birthrate. Potential parents and families have far less support than previous families.

  141. @Mr McKenna
    Look up how many felons there are in Florida, whose voting "rights" were "restored"..

    What the Dems can't make happen with immigrants, they'll use native-born criminals.

    The sad irony is that most Republicans voted for it too.

    The dim-witted Republican female governor of Iowa was instrumental in restoring voting rights of felons. I sometimes think Whiskey is onto something–those criminals getting out of jail give her menopausal psyche the tingles.

  142. @Jack D
    The irony is that reparations would inspire the biggest binge of flat screen TV and Cadillac shopping in all of American history and in 3 years the wealth distribution would be back to were it was before.

    During the government shutdown, at some point they gave every beneficiary 2 months of food stamps in advance, clearly telling them "These are your benefits for January AND February. Please ration your spending so that you won't use them up before you get your next benefit recharge on March 1. Sho' nuff, there are all sorts of stories of people running out of food now (presumably a lot of steak was sold in January).

    If reparations talk begins to get serious, I’m going long on malt liquor brewers and distributors!

  143. American blacks want reparations because they were brought to the US. African blacks want ‘reparations'(in form of immigration) because they were NOT brought to the US.

    Heads I win, Tails you lose.

    • Agree: Trevor H.
  144. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @istevefan

    Julián Castro, the former cabinet secretary who is also running for president, has also indicated that he would support reparations.
     
    Why would the other members of the coalition of the fringes support reparations for blacks, and only blacks? The coalition is all about taking from Whites and sharing the spoils. Given the tenuous nature of the coalition, gibmedats for blacks and blacks only is risking the stability of this shaky coalition.

    Note that Julian Castro indicated he would support this measure. I believe he is of Mexican descent which got me to thinking about the rise of the coalition of the fringes. Has anyone noticed that the one group that doesn't seem to be cashing in on political power at the national level are the Mexicans. Sure Castro is running for president, but he has no chance.

    Mexicans more than any other group are responsible for the demographic transformation of this nation. Yes I know we now have Tanzanians in Idaho (see recent rape story), but it's the Mexicans who really blew the doors off immigration. There are currently around 12 million living Mexican-born people in the USA which is almost as much as the combined number of German and Italian origin immigrants who have come here in 400 years!

    Though many Mexicans still can't or won't vote, as Steve wrote they are the stage army used by the left to convince Whites that our days are numbered. It is the presence of the Mexicans that has caused Spanish to become our de facto second language and to start the countdown until Whites are a minority.

    Yet Mexicans have benefited very little at the national political level. Meanwhile blacks and others like AOC are rising among the democrats because White cucks in that party are so intimidated of the rising tide of POC, fueled by the Mexicans, that they are grooming their replacements. Now blacks are pushing for reparations which is something they never would have tried in a White-dominated society. But they are not doing it because blacks are becoming the largest group. They are riding on the coattails of the Mexican stage army that has convinced many Whites that our time is up.

    So will Mexicans put up with this, or will they start to demand their share of the spoils that is commensurate with their numbers? I just don't get their passivity, but maybe that is why the elite Whites decided to import them. They are easily controlled.

    Mex-Americans an immigrants are descendants of slaves of the Mayans Aztecs and others then peons of the Spanish. That’s thousands of years of docility bred in like their straight black hair.

    Black Africans were only slaves around 200 years and they were never easy to control without extreme measures such as the Sundown laws.

    Plus the capitalists learned their lesson about free black labor. It may have worked for 50 to 100 years but the black workers destroyed Chicago Gary Cleveland Cincinnati Buffalo Philladelphia Baltimore Birmingham Memphis Louisville St Louis Richmond va big parts of NYC Milwaukee DC LA San Francisco. The list goes on and on.

    Seeing the cities they built destroyed by their black workers I think the capitalists will keep a firmer hand in their inherently more docile Mexicans

  145. @Jack D
    The irony is that reparations would inspire the biggest binge of flat screen TV and Cadillac shopping in all of American history and in 3 years the wealth distribution would be back to were it was before.

    During the government shutdown, at some point they gave every beneficiary 2 months of food stamps in advance, clearly telling them "These are your benefits for January AND February. Please ration your spending so that you won't use them up before you get your next benefit recharge on March 1. Sho' nuff, there are all sorts of stories of people running out of food now (presumably a lot of steak was sold in January).

    There are just some people, who cannot save money. My parents have an acquaintance whose income is equivalent to someone drawing a salary of 90 000€ a year (about 100 000 USD). Even though he has no dependants, he cannot make ends meet and has debt, because he constantly overspends. For instance when one of his relatives passed away and he was told, he and his brother would inherit the 10 000 € in her checking account, he spent an additional 5 000€ in the next week. When it turned out that the inheritance was a lot smaller than anticipated (2000€ instead of 5000), his debt grew by 3000).

  146. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @stillCARealist
    The Poles weren't very nice to Jews. I wouldn't expect much in the way of $$ coming to you.

    From about 1300 to the end of WW1 Poland was run by Jews who treated the Poles as the Israelis treat the Palestinians. Except for the royals and aristocrats who turned the country over to the Jews the way Indian Rajahs turned their terrorities over to the English.

    Jews created the myth that the Poles mistreated Jews. The exact opposite is true.

    • Agree: Trevor H.
    • Replies: @Trevor H.
    Something very similar has been true in a surprising number of countries. Needless to say, we are roundly abused if we dare to notice this.

    The reparations owed to white people by jews? Then we'd be talking about real money. The costs of both world wars and many other wars could be seen as a modest down payment.

    Then we could move on to the immeasurable costs of the wrecked societies they've given us over the past several decades.

  147. @Dr. X
    As a white man with Polish ancestry, I demand reparations from the Germans, the Austrians, the Russians, and the Ottoman Turks.

    Kamala, are you listening???

    As a German, I demand reparations from every country that fought in the 30-year-war.

  148. Anon[300] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alfa158
    Interesting; is this the first chink showing in Kamala’s armor? It’s been claimed that she is a bit dim, and this might be her first mistake. She will ether have to figure on how to walk this back after the primaries, or she’ll get Trump re-elected. Reparations is a losing proposition unless they can be framed as; we didn’t really mean guaranteed income for Blacks, just more like turbocharged affirmitave action. Her statement was ambiguous enough that she can pull that off but only if she acts quickly enough to unpin the R word that was pinned on her by the radio program.

    It’s been claimed that she is a bit dim, and this might be her first mistake.

    Her public, knee-jerk support of Smollett wasn’t dumb enough for ya? She’s a mediocrity promoted way beyond her level of competence. No charisma, no standout intelligence, no ideas. Just another suit-filler who thinks it’s her turn. She thought following Obama’s ritual of meeting with Al Sharpton and eating chick’n and waffles at a Harlem restaurant would get her the nod. Instead of you know, doing something to make herself stand out in a positive way. At least Obama had superficial charm going for him.

  149. @Hail
    Rowaida Abdelaziz

    https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5c1283ae2200000507deb340.jpg

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/author/rowaida-abdelaziz

    To sumarize her writing career (and to paraphrase John Derbyshire),

    Muslimity-Muslimity-Muslim! Islamity-Islamity-Islam! Whites, Bad! Muslims, Good!
     

    Thanks — but that wasn’t the point — while Omar is not American in any real sense, and her presence as a national lawmaker is a farce, I do not hate her — nor do most Americans, including those on the altright and White Nationalists — but after her recent not unreasonable comments, she got a lot of hateful pushback from Jews and their sycophants.

    But she did marry her brother; I don’t even hate her for that: New Evidence Supports Claims That Ilhan Omar Married Her Brother

    As a result of all the family immigration fraud committed by Somalis, they stopped issuing visas for a while and now American taxpayers must pay for genetic testing to verify family relationships.

  150. I have changed my mind on Trump. He finally did something to split the white vote in the burbs. He cut out the spouse visas for H1B’s. This means whites or American born minorities have a crack at tech jobs. This will helped Ralegh, Austin, or Irvine California moved back to the Republicans. I think with the crazy folks on the Dem side Trump could win PA, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Virginia which recently did not looked so good for the Republicans since the Dems are going bat crazy for minorities worst than even Obama did. Trump 2020 because he is doing something more than the wall which will hurt the Dems in the long run cut out Chinese and Indian immigrants.

  151. My great great grandfather lost his left arm fighting in the Battle of Middleburg, Virginia, on the side of the North in 1863. Do I, and all his other descendants, get a discount on the amount of reparations we have to pay?

  152. @AnotherDad

    I’m in favor of that, too, but let’s be real. That’s never going to be proposed, much less implemented. It’s a fantasy.
     
    Of course, it's a fantasy. (I have the same desire for succession as you, but unfortunately the odds are very low.)

    But the point of these proposals--whether reparations-only-with-repatriation or separation--isn't "oh we can make this happen" it's education.

    Specifically, the point of these proposals is to rip the mask off and reveal the fraud of this ideology of minoritarianism.

    Saying "let's separate" is a way to reveal that the coalition of fringes is in fact not oppressed by white guys but parasitic on them. The fringes don't want white guys to leave them alone, they demand that white guys feed them. Blacks don't want to go back to Africa, or have their own nation--they live 20 or 30 times better in the US then in any nation blacks run themselves. Jews don't want to go to Israel--which is a pretty nice place--because it's very very nice to middle man and have comfy establishment sinecures in a big, rich, law-abiding nation of the sort that the Covington boys build. The Latinos don't want to fend for themselves as Latinos, they or their parents or ancestors left Latin America precisely to escape Latino built nations for a white build nation. Ditto Indians, Chinese, other Asians--white guy built America seemed like such a better deal they bailed on their on nations to come. And, of course, single women *really* don't want to fend for themselves--they produce almost nothing--they simply want the government to take stuff from white guys and give it to them, without having to make the usual bargain women make with men to enjoy the value of their labor.

    The "reparations-with-repatriation" proposal strips naked this joke narrative of black "oppression" and points out that the big winners from American slavery are ... American blacks! The enslavement of their ancestors was like winning the lottery! Africans are scrambling--scrapping up family savings, risking death--to get themselves into white nations. American blacks are handed that at birth for free!

    This response needs to be preserved–edited just a bit–and disseminated as an essay in the form of a call to arms for patriots.

    It’s worth noting that the NYT (!) even posted the stat that in any recent ten year period more Africans moved to the United States of their own free will and at their own expense than arrived during the entire 200+ years of the slave trade.

    We can’t keep them away. So far. The rewards are just too enticing–irresistible you might say.

  153. @Anon
    From about 1300 to the end of WW1 Poland was run by Jews who treated the Poles as the Israelis treat the Palestinians. Except for the royals and aristocrats who turned the country over to the Jews the way Indian Rajahs turned their terrorities over to the English.

    Jews created the myth that the Poles mistreated Jews. The exact opposite is true.

    Something very similar has been true in a surprising number of countries. Needless to say, we are roundly abused if we dare to notice this.

    The reparations owed to white people by jews? Then we’d be talking about real money. The costs of both world wars and many other wars could be seen as a modest down payment.

    Then we could move on to the immeasurable costs of the wrecked societies they’ve given us over the past several decades.

  154. @MikeatMikedotMike
    Remember when affirmative action was only supposed to be meant for blacks but ended up getting applied to all non whites?

    Can't WAIT for that strain of logic to affect the reparations movement!

    Can’t wait? It’s already being done. Elizabeth Warren calls for reparations for Native Americans and AOC is calling for reparations for all non-whites on the excuse that the New Deal (paid for by whites) didn’t help them even though the vast majority of their families weren’t even in the country at the time.

  155. @Reg Cæsar
    Who could be so heartless as to oppose repatriations?

    Oh, wait... I think I read that wrong.

    No reparation without separation. What good is it to give blacks money when they’ll still face daily micro-aggressions and bleach attacks from evil whites? The underlying racism that prevented them from accessing white-generated wealth in the first place will still be there. No. the only true reparations will be in putting all those evil whites in a reservation separated from black people so that blacks will no longer have to suffer white racism.

    Speaking of bleach attacks – this isn’t the equal of the Smollett case so it’s not surprising it hasn’t got as much media attention:

    https://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/crime/article226636664.html

  156. As a liberal, I would like the greatest amount of reparations to be extracted from those who initially captured the slave. This will involve international cooperation.

  157. And damages to be measured by everything that they could have earned FOB Charleston in AnCap USA, to present, minus fair market value of slave provisions.

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