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From NBC News:

MANCHESTER, New Hampshire—Jeb Bush didn’t exactly name names when he made his prediction for which of his fellow candidates would finish in the top three in Iowa, but it was clear who he was talking about.

“It’s all about him and insulting his way to the presidency is the organizing principle,” Bush said of Donald Trump. “The two other candidates that are likely to emerge in Iowa are two people that are backbenchers who have never done anything of consequence in their lives,” he added, seemingly of Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz.

That’s kind of an insulting thing to say, no?

For months, Bush’s campaign has focused its efforts on the Granite State where the former governor has made more than 100 stops in almost 50 days, according to an NECN count, compared to just 51 stops over 27 days in Iowa, according to the Des Moines Register.

Just 27 days in Iowa … clearly not enough for Iowans to get to know the real ¡Jeb¡

 
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  1. trumped says:

    Thanks to trump for destroying Jeb.

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    • Agree: MEH 0910
    • Replies: @Dew
    Jeb's! campaign isn't just a failure. There have been plenty of underperforming campaigns over the years. No, it's a spectacular, epic failure. I would almost feel so for him if wasn't for the fact that he and his fellow neocons weren't so aggressively obnoxious. He is to the left of every issue, even when compared to Dubya. Dubya at least tried to act as a conservative Texan when elections came. Jeb! literally identifies as Hispanic, openly embraces more immigration, and has all the typical neocon traits that make him so unattractive to sensible voters.

    Jeb! desperately wants to be taken seriously as a presidential nominee but I simply cannot. The moment his campaign started to pander to Hispanics I had lost all respect. I don't care what anyone says, Heartiste is right. Jeb! should never show off his wife (or his daughter) ever. Shallow? Yes, but still right. As for Jeb! himself well he is about as interesting as a tomato fruit roll-up and has the charisma of a slug. Mitt Romney at least looked a bit like leadership material in a businessman sort of way. Jeb! has nothing going for him.

    Even his merchandise is laughable. Trying to sell people a guacamole bowl that doesn't even have campaign branding for $75 is just stupid. Anyone who buys that couldn't even show off how much of a sad loser they are for investing in Jeb! since no one can even tell it apart from a regular one. The pun is also horrendous: "Guacca Bowle". 0/10 buddy. Don't even get me started on the shirts.

    I know firsthand that there is little particularly conservative about Hispanics in things that actually matter politically. Trying to outreach Hispanics as a Republican doesn't do much. Even Rubio isn't getting that much Latino support. The "Great Hispanic Tidal Wave" isn't going to be stopped by such pitiful methods. You need a wall or at least a well-guarded border fence Israel-style. Deport the activists too. All the money the establishment threw at him and Jeb! still cant make it. He's an example of fractal badness. Trump mainly highlighted all the failures of the Jeb! campaign. Even if Trump wasn't around to destroy him, Jeb! would still be a massive failure.
    , @MaximumCynicism
    It's not over for the Bush clan. Their surrogate Rubio presses on!
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  2. Lagertha says:

    Shit. I am in the middle of the Varsity wrestling season in my state…should I get worried? Sheesh, wtf. I have been in Iowa in the past a lot for other reasons. And, Trump is not known there – wrestling is. It is an agrarian state. However, I am surprised that Donald picked up on ethanol (forget Jesus) on the late side. He should have had Melania (gorgeous) do some “meet and greets.” Iowa is almost 95% Dutch and Danish…so, having the “next wife of the POTUS” make the rounds would have helped. Shit, I should be on his “go team.” Plus, I met him in 1988 at a Dan Q. fundraiser.

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    Should Trump be taking advice from a Dan Quayle fundraiser?
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  3. I’m still sad though.

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    • Replies: @Bert
    Don't be. Iowa was always going to be a difficult state for Trump. As long as he wins NH and SC he'll be fine.
    , @Lagertha
    don't be sad...with Trump, there is always a long game. He is crafty. Also, Iowa, jeezus,
    those poor losers just voted in Cruz whose gonna strip them of the money from ethanol...those dumb asses don't even know how much of a mistake they made for the future of their children/their lands. Maybe a new Las Vegas (but no, there is only enough money for the real LV) in the midst of those pretty plains. I admired Iowa when I spent time there a few years ago - now, they dug their own grave.
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  4. Bert says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    I'm still sad though.

    Don’t be. Iowa was always going to be a difficult state for Trump. As long as he wins NH and SC he’ll be fine.

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  5. Marat says:

    Perhaps he can use his remaining 30+ million to rebrand himself as ?Jeb?

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  6. The Yeb! proving that the anger and ill-will excited by the Bush 43 foreign and domestic policy double-whammy combination of stupidity and ‘its-all-about-me’ conceit can indeed be amplified and deployed to good effect.

    Yeb! showing that the American people really do have lower bounds on their collective cognitive deficiencies – even in the realm of politics!

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    • Replies: @anowow
    What about the Rubio voters?

    Rubio is the Dubya of our times. Same bromides.

    Jeb is losing because he is a nerd, not necessarily because he is a Bush.


    And on the Demo side, HRC is doing far better than she deserves.

    Never underestimate the clouded memory and perception, self-interested greed, self-righteousness, smug jingoism, myopic hubris and militarism masking the cowardice of many of our countrymen and women.

    The fact that as flawed a candidate as Trump is all we got says volumes about Americans. Our leaders are manifestations of our populace.

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  7. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Lagertha
    Shit. I am in the middle of the Varsity wrestling season in my state...should I get worried? Sheesh, wtf. I have been in Iowa in the past a lot for other reasons. And, Trump is not known there - wrestling is. It is an agrarian state. However, I am surprised that Donald picked up on ethanol (forget Jesus) on the late side. He should have had Melania (gorgeous) do some "meet and greets." Iowa is almost 95% Dutch and Danish...so, having the "next wife of the POTUS" make the rounds would have helped. Shit, I should be on his "go team." Plus, I met him in 1988 at a Dan Q. fundraiser.

    Should Trump be taking advice from a Dan Quayle fundraiser?

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    • Replies: @Lagertha
    No, but you probably should. Hate the 'anonymous' bs, loser name, so, don't post if you have no "skin in the game" of attacking people who actually use a name. Anonymous is for faggots and wussy-assed straights.
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  8. Lagertha says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    I'm still sad though.

    don’t be sad…with Trump, there is always a long game. He is crafty. Also, Iowa, jeezus,
    those poor losers just voted in Cruz whose gonna strip them of the money from ethanol…those dumb asses don’t even know how much of a mistake they made for the future of their children/their lands. Maybe a new Las Vegas (but no, there is only enough money for the real LV) in the midst of those pretty plains. I admired Iowa when I spent time there a few years ago – now, they dug their own grave.

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    • Replies: @Lagertha
    So, I am an independent...and I understand the disappointment tonight - yet Iowa is the ship that we know from history books that didn't get destroyed in WWII, but, well, went on until the scrap yards. I am disappointed that Bernie didn't blow-off Clinton & that Trump didn't bury the Republicans. But, we "gotta get a bigger boat."
    , @Das
    Iowa has nominated famous American presidents like Pat Robertson, Pat Buchanan, Mike Huckabee, and Rick Santorum.

    Oh wait. I'm guessing their ethanol subsidies are safe.
    , @Olorin
    Erm, WADR you're batting a beachball thrown into the pool by the UniParty "consultants."

    Not everybody in Iowa is a corn farmer, you realize. Nor gives a shite about ethanol subsidies.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2016/01/23/do-iowa-voters-really-care-about-ethanol-anymore/

    Now let me think a moment. Last I looked, federal ethanol subsidies in toto ran to about $2 billion a year.

    To put that into context, that was just $200 mil more than the city of Baltimore, alone, received from federal "stimulus" funds, alone:

    http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/05/05/baltimore-city-received-1-8-billion-in-federal-stimulus-money/

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/05/not_enough_money_baltimore_got_18_embillionem_from_obama_stimulus_.html

    The majority of which (nearly $840 million) went to Nick Mosby's district (Marilyn Mosby's husband).

    What you don't seem to realize is that one major reason for the ethanol "subsidy" is to keep corn being grown. You can't just turn that on and off like TV/the internet. It's like shipbuilding, or energy production, or an internet server farm.

    Here's one (of many) reasons why:
    https://newrepublic.com/article/122441/corn-wars

    Civilization isn't just about degree of technical advancement. It's about the broad-based institutional/organizational support and effective cultural/genetic base that undergirds it. (Which is why China's stealing US agricultural innovation in the first place.)

    , @Hibernian
    Ethanol requires a lot of energy to process and is bad for car engines. It's an industry dependent on corporate welfare, and not all Iowans are farmers.
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  9. Broski says:

    The two other candidates that are likely to emerge in Iowa are two people that are backbenchers who have never done anything of consequence in their lives,” he added, seemingly of Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz.

    Cruz’s attaining a fed clerkship and a USDOJ job, even as a guy who checked the Hispanic box, means he’s gone pretty far in his legal career and is not stupid. Rubio, on the other hand…

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  10. Lagertha says:
    @Lagertha
    don't be sad...with Trump, there is always a long game. He is crafty. Also, Iowa, jeezus,
    those poor losers just voted in Cruz whose gonna strip them of the money from ethanol...those dumb asses don't even know how much of a mistake they made for the future of their children/their lands. Maybe a new Las Vegas (but no, there is only enough money for the real LV) in the midst of those pretty plains. I admired Iowa when I spent time there a few years ago - now, they dug their own grave.

    So, I am an independent…and I understand the disappointment tonight – yet Iowa is the ship that we know from history books that didn’t get destroyed in WWII, but, well, went on until the scrap yards. I am disappointed that Bernie didn’t blow-off Clinton & that Trump didn’t bury the Republicans. But, we “gotta get a bigger boat.”

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    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    The USS Iowa not only survived World War II, but went on to be recommissioned during the 1980s. It was not scrapped but is in museum status at the Port of Los Angeles. It did have a very serious turret explosion.
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  11. Lagertha says:
    @Anonymous
    Should Trump be taking advice from a Dan Quayle fundraiser?

    No, but you probably should. Hate the ‘anonymous’ bs, loser name, so, don’t post if you have no “skin in the game” of attacking people who actually use a name. Anonymous is for faggots and wussy-assed straights.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Yeah, because using a random handle on an anonymous comment thread is really putting some "skin in the game". That's the kind of brilliant insight Trump needs. Trump really should consider packing his brain trust with hysterical former Dan Quayle fundraisers.
    , @BenKenobi
    Don't hold back, L, tell 'em what you really think!
    , @Clyde
    lol
    , @AndrewR
    Says the guy using hate slurs on the internet
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  12. anowow says:
    @Charles Erwin Wilson
    The Yeb! proving that the anger and ill-will excited by the Bush 43 foreign and domestic policy double-whammy combination of stupidity and 'its-all-about-me' conceit can indeed be amplified and deployed to good effect.

    Yeb! showing that the American people really do have lower bounds on their collective cognitive deficiencies - even in the realm of politics!

    What about the Rubio voters?

    Rubio is the Dubya of our times. Same bromides.

    Jeb is losing because he is a nerd, not necessarily because he is a Bush.

    And on the Demo side, HRC is doing far better than she deserves.

    Never underestimate the clouded memory and perception, self-interested greed, self-righteousness, smug jingoism, myopic hubris and militarism masking the cowardice of many of our countrymen and women.

    The fact that as flawed a candidate as Trump is all we got says volumes about Americans. Our leaders are manifestations of our populace.

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    Rubio is the Dubya of our times. Same bromides
     
    I don't think so. He promises us he'll be much worse. Dubya on bath salts.

    Dubya: "We are going to have a humble foreign policy."
    Rubio: "Putin is a gangster and we need to punch Russia in the nose."
    , @Anonym
    Jeb is losing because he is a nerd, not necessarily because he is a Bush.

    Jeb's not even a nerd, he's a dweeb.

    , @Corvinus
    "Never underestimate the clouded memory and perception, self-interested greed, self-righteousness, smug jingoism, myopic hubris and militarism masking the cowardice of many of our countrymen and women."

    First, is that white or non-white countrymen and women?

    Second, where do YOU fit in? I imagine that you lack these distinct qualities, so tell us, dear chap,
    what characteristics do you possess different from them?

    "Our leaders are manifestations of our populace."

    Well, if you are unlike the majority of the people, why don't YOU run for political office?
    , @Charles Erwin Wilson
    Good grief! Couldn't you leave me to enjoy my momentary euphoria!
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  13. Das says:
    @Lagertha
    don't be sad...with Trump, there is always a long game. He is crafty. Also, Iowa, jeezus,
    those poor losers just voted in Cruz whose gonna strip them of the money from ethanol...those dumb asses don't even know how much of a mistake they made for the future of their children/their lands. Maybe a new Las Vegas (but no, there is only enough money for the real LV) in the midst of those pretty plains. I admired Iowa when I spent time there a few years ago - now, they dug their own grave.

    Iowa has nominated famous American presidents like Pat Robertson, Pat Buchanan, Mike Huckabee, and Rick Santorum.

    Oh wait. I’m guessing their ethanol subsidies are safe.

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    Now Trump can say that Iowa let him down and campaign in dumping Ethanol when he campaigns in OK and TX.

    Cruz had to stand against Ethanol. If he looses this election he'd have a serious primary issue on his hands in his home state if he supported Ethanol when WTI is like $32 or whatever it is today. That would have been a real knife in the back of his own constituents.
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  14. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Trump could’ve won Iowa but he spent half of January taking the wind out of his own sails by talking about how he “can work with Pelosi and Reid” to get things done in Washington.

    WHAT AN ASSHOLE.

    Notice how Democrats never make claims during a campaign about how they can work with the opposition.

    Trump should’ve been talking about how he would kick the butts of the disgusting Democrats. Not “do deals” with them.

    WHAT A TOTAL ASSHOLE. If he continues down that road say goodbye to easy victory.

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    • Replies: @Lagertha
    Trump's playing the long game. BTW are you Anonymous # 1,2,3,4, 5,6 a -hole whose too much of a wuss to create an avatar? what is wrong with you guys??? this is why girls don't make a motion towards you at a party. Good night.
    , @Das
    "Notice how Democrats never make claims during a campaign about how they can work with the opposition."

    That's totally absurd. Democrats talk about being willing to compromise and work with the opposition all the time.

    Obama spent all of 2008 talking about how he was going to bring both sides together and bridge the partisan divide. It didn't actually happen, but it's what he campaigned and won on.
    , @Daniel Williams

    Trump should’ve been talking about how he would kick the butts of the disgusting Democrats. Not “do deals” with them.
     
    Right on! It's not like deal-making is some integral part of Trump's shtick, you know? Of course, I'm still puzzling my way through Art of the Refusal to Make Deals, so I may be missing something.

    Besides, it's not like a Republican candidate running for office would have to rely (at least in part) on some kind of crossover support from Democrats, so calling them "disgusting" from day one seems sensible to me.

    , @Bill Jones
    No. Trump is refusing to fall into the "divide and conquer" trap.

    Marginally employed democratic voters have the same interest in preventing immigration waves as the republican middle class.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Trump could’ve won Iowa but he spent half of January taking the wind out of his own sails by talking about how he “can work with Pelosi and Reid” to get things done in Washington.
     
    Why would he have to work with P&R, if they're in the minority? Does he expect to win the election, but see his party lose it?
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  15. Lagertha says:

    Ted Cruz & Marco Rubio will never win, anyway. Hillary & Bernie will be fighting until the bitter end with lots of money spent. Trump will have to spend more money and be more astute about the Republican cartel. Cruz is a “fake” for Trump to say all kinds of awful shit. So, all the Trump people tonight!!!: this is the “take down” phase; I spoke about this 4 months ag0…This is the Trojan Horse – attack Ted (waste a lot of time, (hopefully not money) on a guy, who even my husband, a dyed- in – the – wool liberal, thinks is evil – Cruz’z nasal tone voice is way, too, too yeech! Iowa; don’t look back, move on.

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    • Replies: @Lagertha
    don't look back and ruminate. Move on like a shark. Only listen to trusted people. Trust your instincts.
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  16. rod1963 says:

    It’s nice to see Jeb! sent to the corn field so to speak. Couldn’t happen to a more loathsome and entitled weenie.

    Drudge is reporting he spent over $2800.00 per vote. This is pure Onion material. The most unlikeable man in politics.

    Rubio was the big surprise. Iowans must have a thing for open borders/amnesty hacks owned by billionaires. Then again they have a lot of sanctuary cities.

    As for Trump, I didn’t expect him to win. Cruz has a big lock on the Evangelicals just like Huckabee and Santorum did. Reagan couldn’t win it. Very weird state.

    We’ll see who has a more diverse game by SC.

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    • Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe
    "Cruz has a big lock on the Evangelicals just like Huckabee and Santorum did. Reagan couldn’t win it. Very weird state."

    Keep in mind that Reagan lost the 1980 Iowa caucuses to George H.W. Bush (rather than some Religious Right favorite; he also lost the 1976 Iowa caucuses to Gerald Ford), so something changed in the Iowa GOP during the 1980s, because by 1988, Pat Robertson had pushed Bush down to 3rd place in Iowa (with both of them running behind Bob Dole).
    , @Bill Jones
    As I've said before, I was dumbfounded, absolutely gob-smacked to discover that W wasn't the intellectual runt of the Bush litter.
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  17. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    baby boomers are truly the worst generation.

    unbelievable how they’re just going to fall in behind Clinton and rubio because their masters say so.

    haven’t you people done enough to destroy our country?

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    haven’t you people done enough to destroy our country?
     
    Not yet, but we're working on it!
    , @Threecranes
    "baby boomers are truly the worst generation"

    I'm one of them and unfortunately there is too much truth in what you say. We erred in not telling our children that the whole inclusion thing was just a passing fad, conceived of and spoken in a fog of pot smoke. "Hey kids, you weren't supposed to take it seriously." After all, we didn't. Although we marched with blacks during protests on campus, just look at who we chose for neighbors when we went to buy a house and start a family. Not a groid in sight.

    But our daughters really believed that they were supposed to earn their liberal bonafides by dating black guys. And our sons listen to mono-tonal ghetto music on the radio to the exclusion of everything else. The music put out by modern white guys is tepid and thin, a distant echo of the muscular, melodic Rock of our, the baby-boomer generation. Modern white-guy music is a thin cry of anguish at being ignored by the wider culture in general and white girls in particular.

    And our election of rootless Obama, an abandoned, mixed-race, foster child, adopted out to a family of an alien culture and then raised by his Grandparents was and is the perfect expression of our dazed and confused state. We attributed magical powers to him and bestowed honorifics upon ourselves for our open mindedness and magnanimity in helping the symbol of a prostrate race off the mat. But self congratulation is not an adequate map or basis for a plan for moving forwards.

    So, we'll just throw it all at you and leave it to your generation to figure out.

    Good Luck!
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  18. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Lagertha
    No, but you probably should. Hate the 'anonymous' bs, loser name, so, don't post if you have no "skin in the game" of attacking people who actually use a name. Anonymous is for faggots and wussy-assed straights.

    Yeah, because using a random handle on an anonymous comment thread is really putting some “skin in the game”. That’s the kind of brilliant insight Trump needs. Trump really should consider packing his brain trust with hysterical former Dan Quayle fundraisers.

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    • Replies: @Lagertha
    Never said I was part of a brain trust! Ha, ha, more like a brain fart! And, have never worked in politics or fundraising! - never wanted to - don't need to - I was a random guest at the Q function, an accidental guest (it was a real estate gig - good thing I didn't say anything since I was way, way liberal in the 80's) - plus, I have my own fortune. You on the other hand, have no life, since you are up at night insulting a late 5o's mother of 3. I am for Trump, if you're not, then move on. This our critique/bull session.
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    Blacks might leave the country if Trump is elected!
     
    I don't believe it. They're just saying that hoping it will get Trump elected!
    , @Chrisnonymous
    That article says "3/4 of young blacks," but I suspect 3/4 of young blacks aren't following the election closely enough to know who Trump is.
    , @Anonymous
    If only it was that easy.
    , @Another Canadian

    Blacks might leave the country if Trump is elected!
     
    Sounds like a great idea! One problem...who would take them? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
    , @Jim Don Bob
    Can we count on that?

    Here is another good thing about a Trump presidency: 25 percent of federal employees would quit under Trump presidency (http://www.politico.com/blogs/iowa-caucus-2016-live-updates/2016/02/federal-employees-quit-if-trump-president-218544)

    , @anon
    Never happen sport. Blacks will stick with whitey till the end. They are smart enough to know a good thing when they see it. Not smart enough to CREATE a good thing though. Look at Haiti, or any other black run paradise.
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  20. Lagertha says:
    @Lagertha
    Ted Cruz & Marco Rubio will never win, anyway. Hillary & Bernie will be fighting until the bitter end with lots of money spent. Trump will have to spend more money and be more astute about the Republican cartel. Cruz is a "fake" for Trump to say all kinds of awful shit. So, all the Trump people tonight!!!: this is the "take down" phase; I spoke about this 4 months ag0...This is the Trojan Horse - attack Ted (waste a lot of time, (hopefully not money) on a guy, who even my husband, a dyed- in - the - wool liberal, thinks is evil - Cruz'z nasal tone voice is way, too, too yeech! Iowa; don't look back, move on.

    don’t look back and ruminate. Move on like a shark. Only listen to trusted people. Trust your instincts.

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  21. Lagertha says:
    @Anonymous
    Trump could've won Iowa but he spent half of January taking the wind out of his own sails by talking about how he "can work with Pelosi and Reid" to get things done in Washington.

    WHAT AN ASSHOLE.

    Notice how Democrats never make claims during a campaign about how they can work with the opposition.

    Trump should've been talking about how he would kick the butts of the disgusting Democrats. Not "do deals" with them.

    WHAT A TOTAL ASSHOLE. If he continues down that road say goodbye to easy victory.

    Trump’s playing the long game. BTW are you Anonymous # 1,2,3,4, 5,6 a -hole whose too much of a wuss to create an avatar? what is wrong with you guys??? this is why girls don’t make a motion towards you at a party. Good night.

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  22. Jason Bayz says: • Website

    Is it even remotely true that Rubio is a “backbencher?” He drafted the Gang of 8 Bill, which seems pretty important to me.

    Bush’s attitude is great news going into New Hampshire. It’s one of the few states where the population is receptive to the message of the establishment candidates. Combined they have 22.2% nationally in the Real Clear Politics polling average, whereas they have 41.3% in New Hampshire, as it’s divided between 5 candidates Trump will win. We should hope for the establishment vote to be divided for as long as possible. My sense is that Christie, Fiorina, and Bush will stay in for quite awhile. They all seem quite narcissistic and will be hoping for a good debate performance. Kasich seems a lot less narcissistic, he will probably drop out after New Hampshire due to his lack of national appeal.

    I can image the panicked calls from the usual suspects telling the establishment candidates to drop out “for the good of the country.”

    Their reaction:

    “What country?”

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    Is it even remotely true that Rubio is a “backbencher?” He drafted the Gang of 8 Bill, which seems pretty important to me.
     
    Not that it gives Senor Jeb any credibility to make that claim, but I'd say yes. Rubio basically gave up after the Gang of 8 fiasco and decided not to run for reelection regardless of how the Presidential campaign played out early in 2015.
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  23. Das says:
    @Anonymous
    Trump could've won Iowa but he spent half of January taking the wind out of his own sails by talking about how he "can work with Pelosi and Reid" to get things done in Washington.

    WHAT AN ASSHOLE.

    Notice how Democrats never make claims during a campaign about how they can work with the opposition.

    Trump should've been talking about how he would kick the butts of the disgusting Democrats. Not "do deals" with them.

    WHAT A TOTAL ASSHOLE. If he continues down that road say goodbye to easy victory.

    “Notice how Democrats never make claims during a campaign about how they can work with the opposition.”

    That’s totally absurd. Democrats talk about being willing to compromise and work with the opposition all the time.

    Obama spent all of 2008 talking about how he was going to bring both sides together and bridge the partisan divide. It didn’t actually happen, but it’s what he campaigned and won on.

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  24. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Funny title, Esteban, with both of Jeb’s exclamation points down!

    Why did Trump spend the homestretch saying people will die in the street without universal healthcare? And that other Republicans besides himself are heartless?

    Indigent people get taken to the ER and then county hospitals in the USA. We are not frigging India.

    Sickened Americans haven’t died alone in the street since the 1800′s probably during the civil war due to overwhelmed infrastructure.

    But Trump talks like people were ignored and dying out in the open in the streets of America until we got Obamacare! Way to go, Trump!

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    The ER won't be much use if you need dialysis or chemo. They might give you opiates whilst you die of an easily treated condition.

    The US is the only semi-First World country where that happens.
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  25. Rifleman says:
    @Rob McX

    Blacks might leave the country if Trump is elected!

    I don’t believe it. They’re just saying that hoping it will get Trump elected!

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  26. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Trump should have done the debate.

    It made him look weak and petty.

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  27. BenKenobi says:

    So he’s basically saying “you won’t have Jeb Bush to kick around anymore?”

    PS: Steve, you really need to keep including Simpsons stills in your articles. You provided quite a few chuckles this week.

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  28. MG says:

    Disappointed that Trump didn’t win. Looking forward to him winning in NH and beyond, although I expect he will run into serious headwinds through establishment and Koch Bros cash. Trump is the only thing that stands between America and a Third World sewer. With Rafael, Marco, Hillary and Sanders we KNOW we are headed to Third World-dom.

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  29. BenKenobi says:
    @Lagertha
    No, but you probably should. Hate the 'anonymous' bs, loser name, so, don't post if you have no "skin in the game" of attacking people who actually use a name. Anonymous is for faggots and wussy-assed straights.

    Don’t hold back, L, tell ‘em what you really think!

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  30. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    The truth is that the liberal media-driven campaign has won again. They made massive and concerted effort to paint Trump a second coming of Hitler. And it worked – huge caucus turnout meant that people in Iowa went to caucus in droves with one main goal: stop Trump.

    Face it: the tiny number of people who control 90% of our media had won almost every war they waged against core American population: offshoring, trade agreements, immigration, restrictions on freedom of speech, feminism, homosexuality, wars abroad. Guns are the only exception. (But wait, that win will come, too).

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    we gotta get a bigger boat. Also: refugees pouring in full force in Europe despite the bitter winter; Europeans are freaking out; EU is on the brink of collapsing...sometimes outside forces will scare the American people into thinking this is coming to their shores and heartland very soon. Time to get some weapons out...and a bigger boat.
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  31. Tom Regan says:

    The media will naturally be eager to portray this as principally a setback for Trump, but Bush 3 is the biggest loser from Iowa. Clearly the establishment and the donors will now coalesce around Lil’ Marco as their preferred puppet. Just a matter of time now for Bush 3.

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    Yes. However, would the idea of TC as the nominee ( in some timeline) present an opportunity for Trump to say, "well, you (GOP) leave me with no choice, as far as going 3rd party," ???? I mean, he did not sign an iron-clad paper (witnessed by lawyers) to say he wouldn't run on "Independent?" Ok, dopey, I know, I am just a suburban mom. I'm going to sleep now seriously.
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  32. Wilkey says:

    The numbers just don’t seem to add up for Rubio.

    Cruz – 28%
    Trump – 24%
    Rubio – 23%
    Carson – 9%
    Paul – 5%
    Huckabee – 2%
    All else – 9%

    Huckabilly folded. Who gets his 2%? Probably not Rubio. Cruz did best among evangelicals. Will Rubio get a big chunk of Carson’s and Paul’s combined 14% when they fold? Not likely. Based on tonight’s results, and based on national polls with which the Iowa results are highly consistent, the establishment candidate gets 30-35% of Republican voters, at most.

    So Bush, Kasich, and Christie all drop out. Who’s the establishment candidate? Rubio. Who’s the candidate on the left? Rubio. So while Rubio gains maybe 7% when those three drop out, in a way he actually loses because it turns him into the undeniable establishment candidate. Before the primaries are over millions will be spent on ads and viral videos reminding people how Rubio lied to his voters when he promised he’d oppose amnesty.

    No matter how the media spins it – “Oh, Rubio finished third but he actually won because he outperformed expectations!” – tonight was bad for Rubio, because it validated what all the national polls have been saying. Cruz or Trump (probably Cruz) will eventually be the winner.

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    The problem for Cruz and Trump is that they'll continue splitting the anti-establishment vote, and if the establishment rallies around one guy enough to get 20% ish in each state, its possible nobody gets the delegates needed to avoid a brokered convention.

    and brokered convention = establishment candidate = open borders.

    I really wish Cruz just wasn't in the race. He's young and could have waited another term, plus he was born in Canada anyway.

    As it stands, Cruz may be the biggest obstacle to Trump getting the nomination, even though Cruz has very little chance of getting the nomination himself.
    , @Clyde
    Marco Rubio did great and almost consigned Donald Trump to third place. Rubio is deploying the 2008 Obama formula and hoping lightning strikes, and it will tomorrow in the form of millions in new campaign money. Same as the 2008 Obama, Rubio is positioning himself as the young, fresh, unsullied, well spoken, well groomed minority U (white people) can trust. I'll bet Rubio did great with the Iowa Republican female vote.....same as white women elected Obama is 2008.
    Rubio has been looking like the cat that swallowed the canary and tomorrow onward this smirk will be growing larger. The open borders Koch brothers and other plutos are going to be showing him the love, via millions in super pac donations.
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  33. […] is one bit of good news tonight: the reaction of Jeb Bush to the caucus results, he insulted his fellow establishment candidate Rubio, showing he does not plan to drop out any […]

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  34. Lagertha says:
    @Anonymous
    Yeah, because using a random handle on an anonymous comment thread is really putting some "skin in the game". That's the kind of brilliant insight Trump needs. Trump really should consider packing his brain trust with hysterical former Dan Quayle fundraisers.

    Never said I was part of a brain trust! Ha, ha, more like a brain fart! And, have never worked in politics or fundraising! – never wanted to – don’t need to – I was a random guest at the Q function, an accidental guest (it was a real estate gig – good thing I didn’t say anything since I was way, way liberal in the 80′s) – plus, I have my own fortune. You on the other hand, have no life, since you are up at night insulting a late 5o’s mother of 3. I am for Trump, if you’re not, then move on. This our critique/bull session.

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    I asked if Dan Quayle fundraisers should be giving Trump advice at a critical time. If you think that's insulting, you're too hysterical and emotional for politics.
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  35. DPG says:

    Question for commenters who know the inside baseball of campaigns.

    We’ve just witnessed jeb’s campaign blow through a huge war chest for negligible results. Do the consultants working for him suffer any consequences in their careers? Do they have to go work for some small time incumbents in impregnable districts to rebuild credibility? Or can they just blame Jeb as a bad candidate and hop right back on high profile senate and presidential campaigns?

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    My impression is that it resembles the world of professional sports coaches. No matter how badly you do with any particular team, once you're in the club, you'll always be taken care of.
    , @AndrewR
    I don't think the best cobsultants in history could have helped Yeb.
    , @anon
    Look at all those clowns who said Iraq had "weapons of mass destruction" and was supposedly a great "threat" to the USA. Nothing happened to them.
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  36. @Lagertha
    So, I am an independent...and I understand the disappointment tonight - yet Iowa is the ship that we know from history books that didn't get destroyed in WWII, but, well, went on until the scrap yards. I am disappointed that Bernie didn't blow-off Clinton & that Trump didn't bury the Republicans. But, we "gotta get a bigger boat."

    The USS Iowa not only survived World War II, but went on to be recommissioned during the 1980s. It was not scrapped but is in museum status at the Port of Los Angeles. It did have a very serious turret explosion.

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  37. Lagertha says:
    @Anonymous
    The truth is that the liberal media-driven campaign has won again. They made massive and concerted effort to paint Trump a second coming of Hitler. And it worked - huge caucus turnout meant that people in Iowa went to caucus in droves with one main goal: stop Trump.

    Face it: the tiny number of people who control 90% of our media had won almost every war they waged against core American population: offshoring, trade agreements, immigration, restrictions on freedom of speech, feminism, homosexuality, wars abroad. Guns are the only exception. (But wait, that win will come, too).

    we gotta get a bigger boat. Also: refugees pouring in full force in Europe despite the bitter winter; Europeans are freaking out; EU is on the brink of collapsing…sometimes outside forces will scare the American people into thinking this is coming to their shores and heartland very soon. Time to get some weapons out…and a bigger boat.

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  38. jackmcg says:
    @Wilkey
    The numbers just don't seem to add up for Rubio.

    Cruz - 28%
    Trump - 24%
    Rubio - 23%
    Carson - 9%
    Paul - 5%
    Huckabee - 2%
    All else - 9%

    Huckabilly folded. Who gets his 2%? Probably not Rubio. Cruz did best among evangelicals. Will Rubio get a big chunk of Carson's and Paul's combined 14% when they fold? Not likely. Based on tonight's results, and based on national polls with which the Iowa results are highly consistent, the establishment candidate gets 30-35% of Republican voters, at most.

    So Bush, Kasich, and Christie all drop out. Who's the establishment candidate? Rubio. Who's the candidate on the left? Rubio. So while Rubio gains maybe 7% when those three drop out, in a way he actually loses because it turns him into the undeniable establishment candidate. Before the primaries are over millions will be spent on ads and viral videos reminding people how Rubio lied to his voters when he promised he'd oppose amnesty.

    No matter how the media spins it - "Oh, Rubio finished third but he actually won because he outperformed expectations!" - tonight was bad for Rubio, because it validated what all the national polls have been saying. Cruz or Trump (probably Cruz) will eventually be the winner.

    The problem for Cruz and Trump is that they’ll continue splitting the anti-establishment vote, and if the establishment rallies around one guy enough to get 20% ish in each state, its possible nobody gets the delegates needed to avoid a brokered convention.

    and brokered convention = establishment candidate = open borders.

    I really wish Cruz just wasn’t in the race. He’s young and could have waited another term, plus he was born in Canada anyway.

    As it stands, Cruz may be the biggest obstacle to Trump getting the nomination, even though Cruz has very little chance of getting the nomination himself.

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  39. Lagertha says:
    @Tom Regan
    The media will naturally be eager to portray this as principally a setback for Trump, but Bush 3 is the biggest loser from Iowa. Clearly the establishment and the donors will now coalesce around Lil' Marco as their preferred puppet. Just a matter of time now for Bush 3.

    Yes. However, would the idea of TC as the nominee ( in some timeline) present an opportunity for Trump to say, “well, you (GOP) leave me with no choice, as far as going 3rd party,” ???? I mean, he did not sign an iron-clad paper (witnessed by lawyers) to say he wouldn’t run on “Independent?” Ok, dopey, I know, I am just a suburban mom. I’m going to sleep now seriously.

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  40. Bill Clinton got 2.8 % in Iowa in 1992, but somehow I don’t think that’s a good comparison…

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  41. 22pp22 says:

    I am not American, but this really matters to me. I really want Trump to win because, as America goes, so goes the rest of the Western World. Has Trump been set back by this result?

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    No. It is a small bump in the road. But it is critical that Trump wins the next two primaries in NH and SC decisively. As of now, they look good for him.
    , @Diversity Heretic
    I'm an American ex-pat, originally from Iowa. Trump has been set back slightly, because it's always better to win. But Iowa is not a representative state, and the caucus process leads to results different than either a primary or general election. So the setback is probably not serious.

    Given the advantage that the Democratic Party has in the electoral college, the strange way that the U.S. elects a President, the real news is on the Democratic side--Sanders is doing much better than I thought he would. He may do even better in the New Hampshire primary, since he is a long-time Congressman and Senator from the neighboring state of Vermong.

    Glad to see a non-American interested in U.S. politics.
    , @Anonymous
    It's a serious setback but not because of its result. It's very bad because it's a harbinger of what's coming. And what's coming is people increasingly voting for Rubio to stop Trump.
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  42. MG says:
    @22pp22
    I am not American, but this really matters to me. I really want Trump to win because, as America goes, so goes the rest of the Western World. Has Trump been set back by this result?

    No. It is a small bump in the road. But it is critical that Trump wins the next two primaries in NH and SC decisively. As of now, they look good for him.

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  43. Where the heck did Rubio’s 23% come from? If there was election fraud is there a way to find out?

    If there are similar incongruous results in New Hampshire then it starts to look like a fix.

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    Hahaha.

    Yeah it is a bit odd, can be chalked up to unreliable polls and the caucus. Trump is so far ahead in NH, and the polls more accurate there, so let see if anything odd happens there until we start saying the fix is in.

    Hilary conveniently just beating Sanders too.
    , @MarkinLA
    The caucuses are not secret elections. People can negotiate and cajole others who are not stuck on a candidate. There will always be a lot of pure Republicans - business and the military first who likely think Rubio and only he can beat Hillary so will vote for the establishment candidate no matter what. I imagine that argument swayed a lot of people who said they would vote for Trump but were a bit week in the knees.

    But Trump does need to step up his game. He needs to lend his campaign 50 million dollars or so and do the money-bombs Ron Paul did.

    , @Anonymous
    It came from "stop Trump" movement. Despite what you read here, it not inconsequential. It definitely is a "fix" but only in a sense that propaganda is efficient and generally achieves its goals. No one fixes elections on large scale in America. There is no need to. There are better, more efficient and legal ways. See: NYT and WaPo daily.
    , @Annek
    "Where the heck did Rubio’s 23% come from? If there was election fraud is there a way to find out?"

    No kidding. Were there any polls prior to yesterday that showed Rubio with such strong numbers?
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  44. @22pp22
    I am not American, but this really matters to me. I really want Trump to win because, as America goes, so goes the rest of the Western World. Has Trump been set back by this result?

    I’m an American ex-pat, originally from Iowa. Trump has been set back slightly, because it’s always better to win. But Iowa is not a representative state, and the caucus process leads to results different than either a primary or general election. So the setback is probably not serious.

    Given the advantage that the Democratic Party has in the electoral college, the strange way that the U.S. elects a President, the real news is on the Democratic side–Sanders is doing much better than I thought he would. He may do even better in the New Hampshire primary, since he is a long-time Congressman and Senator from the neighboring state of Vermong.

    Glad to see a non-American interested in U.S. politics.

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    Please, can you give us some insider information about Iowa politics? Were it not for evangelicals and agricultural subsidies, wouldn't Iowans turn out to be natural Trump voters?
    , @IBC
    "Vermong" Was that a Freudian typo? I think Sanders has been accused of having been a Sandinista fanboy, back in the day. But I haven't heard anything about his having shown open support for the Viet Cong like Jane Fonda did.
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  45. @DPG
    Question for commenters who know the inside baseball of campaigns.

    We've just witnessed jeb's campaign blow through a huge war chest for negligible results. Do the consultants working for him suffer any consequences in their careers? Do they have to go work for some small time incumbents in impregnable districts to rebuild credibility? Or can they just blame Jeb as a bad candidate and hop right back on high profile senate and presidential campaigns?

    My impression is that it resembles the world of professional sports coaches. No matter how badly you do with any particular team, once you’re in the club, you’ll always be taken care of.

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  46. Bert says:

    Would you guys stop paying attention to this anonymous troll? He’s trying to derail and make you waste time responding, and some of you are stupid enough to take the bait. Crickey.

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    Yeah, bully us into getting "handles." Then you can point out that we joined only xx hours ago, so we should still be ignored.

    "Would you guys stop paying attention..." What are you afraid of, "Bert"?

    Some of you sound like insecure schoolchildren telling your friends to shun the new kid.
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  47. LondonBob says:
    @Emblematic
    Where the heck did Rubio's 23% come from? If there was election fraud is there a way to find out?

    If there are similar incongruous results in New Hampshire then it starts to look like a fix.

    Hahaha.

    Yeah it is a bit odd, can be chalked up to unreliable polls and the caucus. Trump is so far ahead in NH, and the polls more accurate there, so let see if anything odd happens there until we start saying the fix is in.

    Hilary conveniently just beating Sanders too.

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  48. Clyde says:
    @Lagertha
    No, but you probably should. Hate the 'anonymous' bs, loser name, so, don't post if you have no "skin in the game" of attacking people who actually use a name. Anonymous is for faggots and wussy-assed straights.

    lol

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  49. Clyde says:
    @Wilkey
    The numbers just don't seem to add up for Rubio.

    Cruz - 28%
    Trump - 24%
    Rubio - 23%
    Carson - 9%
    Paul - 5%
    Huckabee - 2%
    All else - 9%

    Huckabilly folded. Who gets his 2%? Probably not Rubio. Cruz did best among evangelicals. Will Rubio get a big chunk of Carson's and Paul's combined 14% when they fold? Not likely. Based on tonight's results, and based on national polls with which the Iowa results are highly consistent, the establishment candidate gets 30-35% of Republican voters, at most.

    So Bush, Kasich, and Christie all drop out. Who's the establishment candidate? Rubio. Who's the candidate on the left? Rubio. So while Rubio gains maybe 7% when those three drop out, in a way he actually loses because it turns him into the undeniable establishment candidate. Before the primaries are over millions will be spent on ads and viral videos reminding people how Rubio lied to his voters when he promised he'd oppose amnesty.

    No matter how the media spins it - "Oh, Rubio finished third but he actually won because he outperformed expectations!" - tonight was bad for Rubio, because it validated what all the national polls have been saying. Cruz or Trump (probably Cruz) will eventually be the winner.

    Marco Rubio did great and almost consigned Donald Trump to third place. Rubio is deploying the 2008 Obama formula and hoping lightning strikes, and it will tomorrow in the form of millions in new campaign money. Same as the 2008 Obama, Rubio is positioning himself as the young, fresh, unsullied, well spoken, well groomed minority U (white people) can trust. I’ll bet Rubio did great with the Iowa Republican female vote…..same as white women elected Obama is 2008.
    Rubio has been looking like the cat that swallowed the canary and tomorrow onward this smirk will be growing larger. The open borders Koch brothers and other plutos are going to be showing him the love, via millions in super pac donations.

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    He's a minority akin to Obama?
    , @Marat
    Trump once referred to Rubio as "Zuckerberg's personal senator". Rubio is Silicon Valley's darling and he's dialing for dollars.
    , @Wilkey
    I certainly don't doubt that Rubio could win, especially if Trump and Cruz continue to split the anti-establishment vote. I just think it's unlikely. Eventually Trump or Cruz will stumble. Trump doesn't have much of a ground game, and seems a bit unwilling to spend a huge chunk of his fortune on campaign expenses. He does have to start looking like a serious candidate sooner or later.

    Trump will continue to underperform his polls, and Rubio is still polling third in state after state, including his home state of Florida. It's hard to see how Rubio translates all that into a victory.
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  50. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @anowow
    What about the Rubio voters?

    Rubio is the Dubya of our times. Same bromides.

    Jeb is losing because he is a nerd, not necessarily because he is a Bush.


    And on the Demo side, HRC is doing far better than she deserves.

    Never underestimate the clouded memory and perception, self-interested greed, self-righteousness, smug jingoism, myopic hubris and militarism masking the cowardice of many of our countrymen and women.

    The fact that as flawed a candidate as Trump is all we got says volumes about Americans. Our leaders are manifestations of our populace.

    Rubio is the Dubya of our times. Same bromides

    I don’t think so. He promises us he’ll be much worse. Dubya on bath salts.

    Dubya: “We are going to have a humble foreign policy.”
    Rubio: “Putin is a gangster and we need to punch Russia in the nose.”

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    If W's actions as president were the opposite of his campaign promises, who's to say the same phenomenon won't occur with Rube-io?
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  51. @Rob McX

    That article says “3/4 of young blacks,” but I suspect 3/4 of young blacks aren’t following the election closely enough to know who Trump is.

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  52. Anonym says:
    @anowow
    What about the Rubio voters?

    Rubio is the Dubya of our times. Same bromides.

    Jeb is losing because he is a nerd, not necessarily because he is a Bush.


    And on the Demo side, HRC is doing far better than she deserves.

    Never underestimate the clouded memory and perception, self-interested greed, self-righteousness, smug jingoism, myopic hubris and militarism masking the cowardice of many of our countrymen and women.

    The fact that as flawed a candidate as Trump is all we got says volumes about Americans. Our leaders are manifestations of our populace.

    Jeb is losing because he is a nerd, not necessarily because he is a Bush.

    Jeb’s not even a nerd, he’s a dweeb.

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  53. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Bert
    Would you guys stop paying attention to this anonymous troll? He's trying to derail and make you waste time responding, and some of you are stupid enough to take the bait. Crickey.

    Yeah, bully us into getting “handles.” Then you can point out that we joined only xx hours ago, so we should still be ignored.

    “Would you guys stop paying attention…” What are you afraid of, “Bert”?

    Some of you sound like insecure schoolchildren telling your friends to shun the new kid.

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  54. Iowa – The land of stupid evangelicuck imbeciles

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    "Iowa – The land of stupid evangelicuck imbeciles"

    Iowa has the 6th lowest murder rate in the country.

    Despite testing a huge portion of its high school students (67%) Iowa students have the 17th highest ACT scores, more than a point above the national average.

    Perhaps not mind-bogglingly impressive, but it's hard to call them stupid.
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  55. AndrewR says:
    @Anonymous

    Rubio is the Dubya of our times. Same bromides
     
    I don't think so. He promises us he'll be much worse. Dubya on bath salts.

    Dubya: "We are going to have a humble foreign policy."
    Rubio: "Putin is a gangster and we need to punch Russia in the nose."

    If W’s actions as president were the opposite of his campaign promises, who’s to say the same phenomenon won’t occur with Rube-io?

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    f W’s actions as president were the opposite of his campaign promises, who’s to say the same phenomenon won’t occur with Rube-io?
     
    Actually, hasn't that been the case with all presidents, saying one thing and then doing another? You never really know what you're getting.
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  56. AndrewR says:
    @Clyde
    Marco Rubio did great and almost consigned Donald Trump to third place. Rubio is deploying the 2008 Obama formula and hoping lightning strikes, and it will tomorrow in the form of millions in new campaign money. Same as the 2008 Obama, Rubio is positioning himself as the young, fresh, unsullied, well spoken, well groomed minority U (white people) can trust. I'll bet Rubio did great with the Iowa Republican female vote.....same as white women elected Obama is 2008.
    Rubio has been looking like the cat that swallowed the canary and tomorrow onward this smirk will be growing larger. The open borders Koch brothers and other plutos are going to be showing him the love, via millions in super pac donations.

    He’s a minority akin to Obama?

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  57. AndrewR says:
    @DPG
    Question for commenters who know the inside baseball of campaigns.

    We've just witnessed jeb's campaign blow through a huge war chest for negligible results. Do the consultants working for him suffer any consequences in their careers? Do they have to go work for some small time incumbents in impregnable districts to rebuild credibility? Or can they just blame Jeb as a bad candidate and hop right back on high profile senate and presidential campaigns?

    I don’t think the best cobsultants in history could have helped Yeb.

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  58. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Rob McX

    If only it was that easy.

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  59. AndrewR says:
    @Lagertha
    No, but you probably should. Hate the 'anonymous' bs, loser name, so, don't post if you have no "skin in the game" of attacking people who actually use a name. Anonymous is for faggots and wussy-assed straights.

    Says the guy using hate slurs on the internet

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  60. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Anonymous
    baby boomers are truly the worst generation.

    unbelievable how they're just going to fall in behind Clinton and rubio because their masters say so.

    haven't you people done enough to destroy our country?

    haven’t you people done enough to destroy our country?

    Not yet, but we’re working on it!

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    And "our country" is?
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  61. So, something like one third of Iowa caucus goers voted against ethanol subsidies? Hmmmmm.

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  62. BB753 says:
    @Diversity Heretic
    I'm an American ex-pat, originally from Iowa. Trump has been set back slightly, because it's always better to win. But Iowa is not a representative state, and the caucus process leads to results different than either a primary or general election. So the setback is probably not serious.

    Given the advantage that the Democratic Party has in the electoral college, the strange way that the U.S. elects a President, the real news is on the Democratic side--Sanders is doing much better than I thought he would. He may do even better in the New Hampshire primary, since he is a long-time Congressman and Senator from the neighboring state of Vermong.

    Glad to see a non-American interested in U.S. politics.

    Please, can you give us some insider information about Iowa politics? Were it not for evangelicals and agricultural subsidies, wouldn’t Iowans turn out to be natural Trump voters?

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    I last lived in Iowa in 1979, so my first-hand experience is obviously out-of-date, but I have close relatives in the state, visit it when I can, and sort of follow it. So take what I say in light of that disclaimer.

    My answer to your question is no, Iowans are not natural Trump supporters, even in the absence of the evangelical Christian and ethanol subsidies. Trump, to many Iowans, is an abrasive New York real estate/casino developer on his third trophy wife. His claim to fame is a television program in which he summarily fired a contestant a week. Moreover, his principal policy difference with the rest of the Republican field, immigration, is something that doesn't yet resonate with most Iowans. Iowa has only limited immigration, so it's still the smiling Mexican restaurant owner, and not the drug gang that Iowans think of when they think immigration.

    So I'm surprised that Trump did as well as he did. It tells me that, even in Iowa, Donald Trump is tapping into an anxiety about where the country is headed. The dead heat between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders on the Democratic side, also tells me the same anxiety is being felt there as well.

    So there's my take--worth every penny you paid for it!
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  63. @Rob McX

    Blacks might leave the country if Trump is elected!

    Sounds like a great idea! One problem…who would take them? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

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    ghana.
    , @Romanian
    You mean countries won't be fighting eachother to lap up all that wonderful diversity that creates jobs, economic growth and reduces racism in society?
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  64. tyrone says:
    @Another Canadian

    Blacks might leave the country if Trump is elected!
     
    Sounds like a great idea! One problem...who would take them? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

    ghana.

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  65. iffen says:

    The Ogre has landed at Des Moines.

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    The Ogre has landed at Des Moines.
     
    In just a few days and "Long live the President!" eh?
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  66. Nobody wants another Bush. I would’ve thought the same sentiment would apply to Hillary but I guess Dubya screwed things up too much while Bubba didn’t so Hillary doesn’t have the kind of baggage Jeb is saddled with.

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  67. Romanian says:
    @Another Canadian

    Blacks might leave the country if Trump is elected!
     
    Sounds like a great idea! One problem...who would take them? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

    You mean countries won’t be fighting eachother to lap up all that wonderful diversity that creates jobs, economic growth and reduces racism in society?

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  68. Marat says:
    @Clyde
    Marco Rubio did great and almost consigned Donald Trump to third place. Rubio is deploying the 2008 Obama formula and hoping lightning strikes, and it will tomorrow in the form of millions in new campaign money. Same as the 2008 Obama, Rubio is positioning himself as the young, fresh, unsullied, well spoken, well groomed minority U (white people) can trust. I'll bet Rubio did great with the Iowa Republican female vote.....same as white women elected Obama is 2008.
    Rubio has been looking like the cat that swallowed the canary and tomorrow onward this smirk will be growing larger. The open borders Koch brothers and other plutos are going to be showing him the love, via millions in super pac donations.

    Trump once referred to Rubio as “Zuckerberg’s personal senator”. Rubio is Silicon Valley’s darling and he’s dialing for dollars.

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  69. Sounds like Jeb has sour grapes. Doesn’t everybody know that he is the real Hispanic? Not Rubio or Cruz!

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    @AndrewR
    If W's actions as president were the opposite of his campaign promises, who's to say the same phenomenon won't occur with Rube-io?

    f W’s actions as president were the opposite of his campaign promises, who’s to say the same phenomenon won’t occur with Rube-io?

    Actually, hasn’t that been the case with all presidents, saying one thing and then doing another? You never really know what you’re getting.

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  71. @Anonymous
    baby boomers are truly the worst generation.

    unbelievable how they're just going to fall in behind Clinton and rubio because their masters say so.

    haven't you people done enough to destroy our country?

    “baby boomers are truly the worst generation”

    I’m one of them and unfortunately there is too much truth in what you say. We erred in not telling our children that the whole inclusion thing was just a passing fad, conceived of and spoken in a fog of pot smoke. “Hey kids, you weren’t supposed to take it seriously.” After all, we didn’t. Although we marched with blacks during protests on campus, just look at who we chose for neighbors when we went to buy a house and start a family. Not a groid in sight.

    But our daughters really believed that they were supposed to earn their liberal bonafides by dating black guys. And our sons listen to mono-tonal ghetto music on the radio to the exclusion of everything else. The music put out by modern white guys is tepid and thin, a distant echo of the muscular, melodic Rock of our, the baby-boomer generation. Modern white-guy music is a thin cry of anguish at being ignored by the wider culture in general and white girls in particular.

    And our election of rootless Obama, an abandoned, mixed-race, foster child, adopted out to a family of an alien culture and then raised by his Grandparents was and is the perfect expression of our dazed and confused state. We attributed magical powers to him and bestowed honorifics upon ourselves for our open mindedness and magnanimity in helping the symbol of a prostrate race off the mat. But self congratulation is not an adequate map or basis for a plan for moving forwards.

    So, we’ll just throw it all at you and leave it to your generation to figure out.

    Good Luck!

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    This rivals Ozymandias in awesomeness.
    , @AndrewR
    At least save some money to leave us when you die
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  72. The official slogan is Jeb!, the Spanish inverted exclamation mark version (¡!) would be ¡Jeb!, what is ¡Jeb¡?

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    The official slogan is Jeb!, the Spanish inverted exclamation mark version (¡!) would be ¡Jeb!, what is ¡Jeb¡?

    It's mockery, dumbass.
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  73. @Das
    Iowa has nominated famous American presidents like Pat Robertson, Pat Buchanan, Mike Huckabee, and Rick Santorum.

    Oh wait. I'm guessing their ethanol subsidies are safe.

    Now Trump can say that Iowa let him down and campaign in dumping Ethanol when he campaigns in OK and TX.

    Cruz had to stand against Ethanol. If he looses this election he’d have a serious primary issue on his hands in his home state if he supported Ethanol when WTI is like $32 or whatever it is today. That would have been a real knife in the back of his own constituents.

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    With the exception of corn growers and companies like ADM, ethanol is a net loser. It reduces your mileage and can ruin engines (marine engines in particular) due to ethanol's affinity for water and corrosive effect on polymer seals.

    The sooner the ethanol mandate is gone the better.
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  74. @Pomegranate
    Now Trump can say that Iowa let him down and campaign in dumping Ethanol when he campaigns in OK and TX.

    Cruz had to stand against Ethanol. If he looses this election he'd have a serious primary issue on his hands in his home state if he supported Ethanol when WTI is like $32 or whatever it is today. That would have been a real knife in the back of his own constituents.

    With the exception of corn growers and companies like ADM, ethanol is a net loser. It reduces your mileage and can ruin engines (marine engines in particular) due to ethanol’s affinity for water and corrosive effect on polymer seals.

    The sooner the ethanol mandate is gone the better.

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    • Replies: @tbraton
    I think the proper term for federally mandated ethanol produced from corn is "boondoggle." Even the high priest of man-made global warming, Al Gore, conceded a few years ago that ethanol was a boondoggle, and, ironically, he admitted that the only reason he supported ethanol was to placate Tennessee farmers when he was running for the Senate and to placate Iowa farmers when he was running for President in 2000.
    , @greysquirrell
    When I was driving through Nebraska, the cheapest fuel was E85 Ethanol added gas but I never used it because the BTUs in ethanol gas is lower than regular unleaded.

    Corn ethanol as one of those green technologies that looked good at the start but once you factor in the lower energy density and the increased cost to produce it, it isn't an advantage. Just corporate welfare for the big corn ethanol producers.
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  75. You are too hard on ¡Jeb¡, he has done yeoman’s service by sticking around through these numbers. It seems to me that for many months it has been clear he has no chance. Given that, you have to ask why has he kept on? It seems to me that the only possible explanation is that he remains to highlight the absurdity of a Bush/Clinton aristocracy. It is about pulling Hillary down.

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  76. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Anonymous

    haven’t you people done enough to destroy our country?
     
    Not yet, but we're working on it!

    And “our country” is?

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  77. Wilkey says:
    @Clyde
    Marco Rubio did great and almost consigned Donald Trump to third place. Rubio is deploying the 2008 Obama formula and hoping lightning strikes, and it will tomorrow in the form of millions in new campaign money. Same as the 2008 Obama, Rubio is positioning himself as the young, fresh, unsullied, well spoken, well groomed minority U (white people) can trust. I'll bet Rubio did great with the Iowa Republican female vote.....same as white women elected Obama is 2008.
    Rubio has been looking like the cat that swallowed the canary and tomorrow onward this smirk will be growing larger. The open borders Koch brothers and other plutos are going to be showing him the love, via millions in super pac donations.

    I certainly don’t doubt that Rubio could win, especially if Trump and Cruz continue to split the anti-establishment vote. I just think it’s unlikely. Eventually Trump or Cruz will stumble. Trump doesn’t have much of a ground game, and seems a bit unwilling to spend a huge chunk of his fortune on campaign expenses. He does have to start looking like a serious candidate sooner or later.

    Trump will continue to underperform his polls, and Rubio is still polling third in state after state, including his home state of Florida. It’s hard to see how Rubio translates all that into a victory.

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    "Eventually Trump or Cruz will stumble. Trump doesn’t have much of a ground game, and seems a bit unwilling to spend a huge chunk of his fortune on campaign expenses. He does have to start looking like a serious candidate sooner or later."

    Like a smart businessman, Trump decided not to devote a lot of resources to Iowa, especially when the polls, until recently, showed him consistently trailing Cruz. Take the example of Mitt Romney, who in 2008 devoted a lot resources to Iowa (including spending a substantial sum on the meaningless "Ames Poll") and lost by a healthy margin to Mike Huckabee, who, of course, went on to do very poorly in New Hampshire. In 2012, Romney didn't spend a dime on the Ames Poll and little time in Iowa up until the last moment and initially was proclaimed the winner of the Iowa caucuses until a later recount showed Rick Santorum actually won by a narrow margin. Romney went on to win 39% of the NH primary, while Santorum got slightly under 10%.

    I predict that the same result will occur this year. While Iowa and New Hampshire appear to be similar on the surface, with the same percentages of whites and same percentages of Hispanics, evangelicals do not play nearly the role in NH that they play in Iowa. That's why politicians who do well in Iowa (Huckabee, Santorum) do miserably in NH. The polls have been showing the same pattern this cycle. That's why I expect both Cruz and Rubio to do far less well in NH than they did in Iowa and Trump to win by a very healthy margin.
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  78. Wilkey says:
    @Massimo Heitor
    The official slogan is Jeb!, the Spanish inverted exclamation mark version (¡!) would be ¡Jeb!, what is ¡Jeb¡?

    The official slogan is Jeb!, the Spanish inverted exclamation mark version (¡!) would be ¡Jeb!, what is ¡Jeb¡?

    It’s mockery, dumbass.

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  79. @BB753
    Please, can you give us some insider information about Iowa politics? Were it not for evangelicals and agricultural subsidies, wouldn't Iowans turn out to be natural Trump voters?

    I last lived in Iowa in 1979, so my first-hand experience is obviously out-of-date, but I have close relatives in the state, visit it when I can, and sort of follow it. So take what I say in light of that disclaimer.

    My answer to your question is no, Iowans are not natural Trump supporters, even in the absence of the evangelical Christian and ethanol subsidies. Trump, to many Iowans, is an abrasive New York real estate/casino developer on his third trophy wife. His claim to fame is a television program in which he summarily fired a contestant a week. Moreover, his principal policy difference with the rest of the Republican field, immigration, is something that doesn’t yet resonate with most Iowans. Iowa has only limited immigration, so it’s still the smiling Mexican restaurant owner, and not the drug gang that Iowans think of when they think immigration.

    So I’m surprised that Trump did as well as he did. It tells me that, even in Iowa, Donald Trump is tapping into an anxiety about where the country is headed. The dead heat between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders on the Democratic side, also tells me the same anxiety is being felt there as well.

    So there’s my take–worth every penny you paid for it!

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    Tim Carney of the Washington Examiner has been calling for a populist Republican since the Romney campaign, pointing out the continuing blind spot that the Republican establishment has... So I thought his description of Trump's win in Council Bluffs was interesting and telling

    COUNCIL BLUFFS, Iowa — Turnout exceeded all expectations in Pottawattamie County's 11th precinct Republican caucus tonight, where Donald Trump handily won, 30.7 percent to 24.5 percent for Ted Cruz.

    The Trump crowd was, as Trump promised, all voters who were new to Republican caucuses — many new to electoral politics in total.

    While other candidates had precinct captains who came with voter lists and yard signs to designate their section of the caucus room (the two Chris Christie voters who brought the yard sign proved to be the only two Chris Christie voters in the precinct), the Trump crowd had no such organization. There was no precinct captain. Dave Dieatrick, one of two voters who spoke in favor of Trump at the event, went up to speak extemporaneously.

    Still, Trump carried the room with 44 votes out of 143 cast. When the precinct chairwoman (who doubled as Rubio's precinct captain) announced Trump's win about 20 minutes after voting ended, the remnant booed. Only two Trump supporters remained — a couple decked out in leather and tattoos who smilingly refused to talk to reporters. The others had all left immediately after voting, some retiring to Glory Days Bar & Grill across the street.
     
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ragtag-band-picks-trump-in-council-bluffs-precinct/article/2582135#.VrAYiRX9QTI.facebook
    , @BB753
    Thanks! It makes sense! All in all, Trump did well in Iowa.
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  80. Wilkey says:
    @Mr Curious
    Iowa - The land of stupid evangelicuck imbeciles

    “Iowa – The land of stupid evangelicuck imbeciles”

    Iowa has the 6th lowest murder rate in the country.

    Despite testing a huge portion of its high school students (67%) Iowa students have the 17th highest ACT scores, more than a point above the national average.

    Perhaps not mind-bogglingly impressive, but it’s hard to call them stupid.

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    Fundy religion, like political correctness, causes selective brain malfunction.
    , @Jack D
    In any analysis of standard test scores or murder rate, you have to adjust for relative whiteness or your results will just be a proxy for the racial composition of the state. Iowa is the #6 whitest state so they are punching below their weight academically (but right in line in terms of murder rate).
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  81. Romanian says:
    @Threecranes
    "baby boomers are truly the worst generation"

    I'm one of them and unfortunately there is too much truth in what you say. We erred in not telling our children that the whole inclusion thing was just a passing fad, conceived of and spoken in a fog of pot smoke. "Hey kids, you weren't supposed to take it seriously." After all, we didn't. Although we marched with blacks during protests on campus, just look at who we chose for neighbors when we went to buy a house and start a family. Not a groid in sight.

    But our daughters really believed that they were supposed to earn their liberal bonafides by dating black guys. And our sons listen to mono-tonal ghetto music on the radio to the exclusion of everything else. The music put out by modern white guys is tepid and thin, a distant echo of the muscular, melodic Rock of our, the baby-boomer generation. Modern white-guy music is a thin cry of anguish at being ignored by the wider culture in general and white girls in particular.

    And our election of rootless Obama, an abandoned, mixed-race, foster child, adopted out to a family of an alien culture and then raised by his Grandparents was and is the perfect expression of our dazed and confused state. We attributed magical powers to him and bestowed honorifics upon ourselves for our open mindedness and magnanimity in helping the symbol of a prostrate race off the mat. But self congratulation is not an adequate map or basis for a plan for moving forwards.

    So, we'll just throw it all at you and leave it to your generation to figure out.

    Good Luck!

    This rivals Ozymandias in awesomeness.

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  82. anon says: • Disclaimer

    Comment names are for attention whores.

    The Jeebus freaks of Iowa eff things up again. Felito Cruz is a fraud on immigration and a globalist. He is a huge H1B fan, wants legal status for illegals, and has an obvious personal bias in favor of immigration. I’d rather have Rubio than that frowny faced Canadian weasel. At least he’s more transparent.

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    Even Reagan couldn't pull a win off in Iowa. Those people are seriously screwy.

    Rubio did very well among city slickers and in university towns. Evidently the more educated prefer their politicians stupid and corrupt. Must be a IQ thing.

    The Jeebus set has problems as well. Their religion blinds them to the point they'll vote for some fraud like Cruz because because he has the right religious credentials not understanding he'll destroy their way of life if given the chance once in power.

    They thought GW Bush was one of them as well and he turned out to be a Muslim sympathizer, globalist and off-shorer that helped wreck our economy and flood the country with illegals.

    They aren't rational nor pragmatic.

    There is every possibility the Evangelicals will throw enough primaries to Cruz that we'll end up with a brokered convention where the insiders give the nomination to some oligarch like Jeb or Rubio.

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  83. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Wilkey
    "Iowa – The land of stupid evangelicuck imbeciles"

    Iowa has the 6th lowest murder rate in the country.

    Despite testing a huge portion of its high school students (67%) Iowa students have the 17th highest ACT scores, more than a point above the national average.

    Perhaps not mind-bogglingly impressive, but it's hard to call them stupid.

    Fundy religion, like political correctness, causes selective brain malfunction.

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  84. tbraton says:
    @Hell_Is_Like_Newark
    With the exception of corn growers and companies like ADM, ethanol is a net loser. It reduces your mileage and can ruin engines (marine engines in particular) due to ethanol's affinity for water and corrosive effect on polymer seals.

    The sooner the ethanol mandate is gone the better.

    I think the proper term for federally mandated ethanol produced from corn is “boondoggle.” Even the high priest of man-made global warming, Al Gore, conceded a few years ago that ethanol was a boondoggle, and, ironically, he admitted that the only reason he supported ethanol was to placate Tennessee farmers when he was running for the Senate and to placate Iowa farmers when he was running for President in 2000.

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    I believe the only net energy positive way to produce ethanol is via cane sugar. There is no energy wasted converting starch to sugar and the raw feed stock can be burned pretty efficiently to produce any energy needed to run the facility.
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  85. MarkinLA says:

    Is this supposed to be a threat that the rest of us are supposed to take seriously?

    http://www.govexec.com/management/2016/01/25-feds-would-consider-leaving-their-jobs-if-trump-becomes-president/125549/?oref=top-story

    Imagine if these cubicle sloths had threatened to do some work. Now that would be a threat.

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  86. MarkinLA says:
    @tbraton
    I think the proper term for federally mandated ethanol produced from corn is "boondoggle." Even the high priest of man-made global warming, Al Gore, conceded a few years ago that ethanol was a boondoggle, and, ironically, he admitted that the only reason he supported ethanol was to placate Tennessee farmers when he was running for the Senate and to placate Iowa farmers when he was running for President in 2000.

    I believe the only net energy positive way to produce ethanol is via cane sugar. There is no energy wasted converting starch to sugar and the raw feed stock can be burned pretty efficiently to produce any energy needed to run the facility.

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    I think you're right, Markin. That's why I carefully limited my comment to corn ethanol. I know that they produce much cheaper ethanol in Brazil using sugar cane remnants after it has been processed for sugar, but, as I recall, we have restrictions in place to limit its use in this country (the same restrictions we apparently can't apply to manufactured goods since they would violate the Bible or something like that). I don't know how ethanol in Brazil is faring since the huge drop in oil prices or whether it has affected at all.
    , @MEH 0910
    Cane sugar ethanol should go in rum bottles and gasoline should go in fuel tanks.
    , @Uncle Peregrine
    I've often wondered why we don't use our overpriced American cane sugar for this.
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  87. Anon7 says:

    “It’s all about him and insulting his way to the presidency is the organizing principle,” Bush said of Donald Trump. “The two other candidates that are likely to emerge in Iowa are two people that are backbenchers who have never done anything of consequence in their lives,” he added, seemingly of Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz.

    41 should have a talk with El Jebe about trampling out the vintage where the sour grapes are stored…

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  88. MarkinLA says:
    @Emblematic
    Where the heck did Rubio's 23% come from? If there was election fraud is there a way to find out?

    If there are similar incongruous results in New Hampshire then it starts to look like a fix.

    The caucuses are not secret elections. People can negotiate and cajole others who are not stuck on a candidate. There will always be a lot of pure Republicans – business and the military first who likely think Rubio and only he can beat Hillary so will vote for the establishment candidate no matter what. I imagine that argument swayed a lot of people who said they would vote for Trump but were a bit week in the knees.

    But Trump does need to step up his game. He needs to lend his campaign 50 million dollars or so and do the money-bombs Ron Paul did.

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    "He needs to lend his campaign 50 million dollars or so and do the money-bombs Ron Paul did."

    He should do what Jerry Brown did in 1992 ie., not accept contributions greater than $200, as then he can still claim he's not beholden to the big donor money.
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  89. @Hell_Is_Like_Newark
    With the exception of corn growers and companies like ADM, ethanol is a net loser. It reduces your mileage and can ruin engines (marine engines in particular) due to ethanol's affinity for water and corrosive effect on polymer seals.

    The sooner the ethanol mandate is gone the better.

    When I was driving through Nebraska, the cheapest fuel was E85 Ethanol added gas but I never used it because the BTUs in ethanol gas is lower than regular unleaded.

    Corn ethanol as one of those green technologies that looked good at the start but once you factor in the lower energy density and the increased cost to produce it, it isn’t an advantage. Just corporate welfare for the big corn ethanol producers.

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  90. Forget it Jake, it’s Iowa.

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  91. ¡Jeb¡

    Hehe. I like what you did there.

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  92. Corvinus says:
    @anowow
    What about the Rubio voters?

    Rubio is the Dubya of our times. Same bromides.

    Jeb is losing because he is a nerd, not necessarily because he is a Bush.


    And on the Demo side, HRC is doing far better than she deserves.

    Never underestimate the clouded memory and perception, self-interested greed, self-righteousness, smug jingoism, myopic hubris and militarism masking the cowardice of many of our countrymen and women.

    The fact that as flawed a candidate as Trump is all we got says volumes about Americans. Our leaders are manifestations of our populace.

    “Never underestimate the clouded memory and perception, self-interested greed, self-righteousness, smug jingoism, myopic hubris and militarism masking the cowardice of many of our countrymen and women.”

    First, is that white or non-white countrymen and women?

    Second, where do YOU fit in? I imagine that you lack these distinct qualities, so tell us, dear chap,
    what characteristics do you possess different from them?

    “Our leaders are manifestations of our populace.”

    Well, if you are unlike the majority of the people, why don’t YOU run for political office?

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  93. @Diversity Heretic
    I last lived in Iowa in 1979, so my first-hand experience is obviously out-of-date, but I have close relatives in the state, visit it when I can, and sort of follow it. So take what I say in light of that disclaimer.

    My answer to your question is no, Iowans are not natural Trump supporters, even in the absence of the evangelical Christian and ethanol subsidies. Trump, to many Iowans, is an abrasive New York real estate/casino developer on his third trophy wife. His claim to fame is a television program in which he summarily fired a contestant a week. Moreover, his principal policy difference with the rest of the Republican field, immigration, is something that doesn't yet resonate with most Iowans. Iowa has only limited immigration, so it's still the smiling Mexican restaurant owner, and not the drug gang that Iowans think of when they think immigration.

    So I'm surprised that Trump did as well as he did. It tells me that, even in Iowa, Donald Trump is tapping into an anxiety about where the country is headed. The dead heat between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders on the Democratic side, also tells me the same anxiety is being felt there as well.

    So there's my take--worth every penny you paid for it!

    Tim Carney of the Washington Examiner has been calling for a populist Republican since the Romney campaign, pointing out the continuing blind spot that the Republican establishment has… So I thought his description of Trump’s win in Council Bluffs was interesting and telling

    COUNCIL BLUFFS, Iowa — Turnout exceeded all expectations in Pottawattamie County’s 11th precinct Republican caucus tonight, where Donald Trump handily won, 30.7 percent to 24.5 percent for Ted Cruz.

    The Trump crowd was, as Trump promised, all voters who were new to Republican caucuses — many new to electoral politics in total.

    While other candidates had precinct captains who came with voter lists and yard signs to designate their section of the caucus room (the two Chris Christie voters who brought the yard sign proved to be the only two Chris Christie voters in the precinct), the Trump crowd had no such organization. There was no precinct captain. Dave Dieatrick, one of two voters who spoke in favor of Trump at the event, went up to speak extemporaneously.

    Still, Trump carried the room with 44 votes out of 143 cast. When the precinct chairwoman (who doubled as Rubio’s precinct captain) announced Trump’s win about 20 minutes after voting ended, the remnant booed. Only two Trump supporters remained — a couple decked out in leather and tattoos who smilingly refused to talk to reporters. The others had all left immediately after voting, some retiring to Glory Days Bar & Grill across the street.

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ragtag-band-picks-trump-in-council-bluffs-precinct/article/2582135#.VrAYiRX9QTI.facebook

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  94. @Anonymous
    Funny title, Esteban, with both of Jeb's exclamation points down!

    Why did Trump spend the homestretch saying people will die in the street without universal healthcare? And that other Republicans besides himself are heartless?

    Indigent people get taken to the ER and then county hospitals in the USA. We are not frigging India.

    Sickened Americans haven't died alone in the street since the 1800's probably during the civil war due to overwhelmed infrastructure.

    But Trump talks like people were ignored and dying out in the open in the streets of America until we got Obamacare! Way to go, Trump!

    The ER won’t be much use if you need dialysis or chemo. They might give you opiates whilst you die of an easily treated condition.

    The US is the only semi-First World country where that happens.

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    I don't know where you live, but in Massachusetts the "indigent" get the million-dollar workup when they arrive at the ER, including aftercare.
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  95. According to 538 it cost Jeb and his superpacs a mere $25,000 per vote.

    So, if he can cadge about $3 trillion from somewhere he could still win this.

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  96. @Anonymous
    Trump could've won Iowa but he spent half of January taking the wind out of his own sails by talking about how he "can work with Pelosi and Reid" to get things done in Washington.

    WHAT AN ASSHOLE.

    Notice how Democrats never make claims during a campaign about how they can work with the opposition.

    Trump should've been talking about how he would kick the butts of the disgusting Democrats. Not "do deals" with them.

    WHAT A TOTAL ASSHOLE. If he continues down that road say goodbye to easy victory.

    Trump should’ve been talking about how he would kick the butts of the disgusting Democrats. Not “do deals” with them.

    Right on! It’s not like deal-making is some integral part of Trump’s shtick, you know? Of course, I’m still puzzling my way through Art of the Refusal to Make Deals, so I may be missing something.

    Besides, it’s not like a Republican candidate running for office would have to rely (at least in part) on some kind of crossover support from Democrats, so calling them “disgusting” from day one seems sensible to me.

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  97. @Rob McX

    Can we count on that?

    Here is another good thing about a Trump presidency: 25 percent of federal employees would quit under Trump presidency (http://www.politico.com/blogs/iowa-caucus-2016-live-updates/2016/02/federal-employees-quit-if-trump-president-218544)

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    LOL blacks and liberals would leave the country, government employees would resign en masse ... the Donald is a miracle man like no other politician!
    , @AndrewR
    Bullshit. Most government workers wouldn't piss on a burning child if it meant taking a three cent pay cut.
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  98. @rod1963
    It's nice to see Jeb! sent to the corn field so to speak. Couldn't happen to a more loathsome and entitled weenie.

    Drudge is reporting he spent over $2800.00 per vote. This is pure Onion material. The most unlikeable man in politics.

    Rubio was the big surprise. Iowans must have a thing for open borders/amnesty hacks owned by billionaires. Then again they have a lot of sanctuary cities.

    As for Trump, I didn't expect him to win. Cruz has a big lock on the Evangelicals just like Huckabee and Santorum did. Reagan couldn't win it. Very weird state.

    We'll see who has a more diverse game by SC.

    Cruz has a big lock on the Evangelicals just like Huckabee and Santorum did. Reagan couldn’t win it. Very weird state.

    Keep in mind that Reagan lost the 1980 Iowa caucuses to George H.W. Bush (rather than some Religious Right favorite; he also lost the 1976 Iowa caucuses to Gerald Ford), so something changed in the Iowa GOP during the 1980s, because by 1988, Pat Robertson had pushed Bush down to 3rd place in Iowa (with both of them running behind Bob Dole).

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    ... something changed in the Iowa GOP during the 1980s, because by 1988, Pat Robertson had pushed Bush down to 3rd place in Iowa (with both of them running behind Bob Dole).
     
    Robertson was as new a phenomenon in 1988 as is Trump this year, and about as well-known. Like Trump, he pulled in people who had never caucused before. And they were organized in congregations and Bible-study groups, unlike Trump's unorganized supporters. So no surprise, no revolution here.

    But many made caucusgoing a habit, so the effect was long-term.

    Also, the winner, Dole, was from a nearby, similar state. And by 1988, the Democrats were well on the way to the deep end where they float today. Serious churchgoers were done with them.
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  99. J1234 says:

    I’m still sad though.

    If I were you guys, I’d worry less about Trump’s loss to Cruz in Iowa and more about his NEAR loss to Rubio. That’s the most troubling thing.

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  100. Svigor says:

    Comment names are for attention whores.

    Disembodied anonymous commenters rely on the extra room to lie and deceive that full anonymity affords. That’s their whole point in remaining wholly anonymous. I’d reply to anonymous commenters, if I gave a shit what they think. Actually, that’s not true – nobody knows what they think. The next post could be a 180 reversal from the previous one, and no one would know. Anonymous commenters are too invested in the freedom to deceive to be taken seriously.

    Imagine if these cubicle sloths had threatened to do some work. Now that would be a threat.

    Yeah: “no, not the Briar Patch. Anything but the Briar Patch. No. Please.”

    41 should have a talk with El Jebe about trampling out the vintage where the sour grapes are stored…

    Yeah he sounds like a bitter clinger.

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    You reply to their comments all the time, so apparently you do give a shit. You just don't use the reply function but blockquote comments instead.

    Few read your long-winded replies and screeds anyway, which mainly have to do with narcissistic exhibitionism and gainsaying other comments rather than anything interesting.
    , @Anonymous

    Anonymous commenters are too invested in the freedom to deceive to be taken seriously.
     
    I resent your comment. Majority of us are well-meaning citizens merely expressing their opinions on the blog. The real trouble is, with unz.com's permanent archive of all posts sorted by a poster, there is too high a chance of being screwed by some SJW.
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  101. @MarkinLA
    The caucuses are not secret elections. People can negotiate and cajole others who are not stuck on a candidate. There will always be a lot of pure Republicans - business and the military first who likely think Rubio and only he can beat Hillary so will vote for the establishment candidate no matter what. I imagine that argument swayed a lot of people who said they would vote for Trump but were a bit week in the knees.

    But Trump does need to step up his game. He needs to lend his campaign 50 million dollars or so and do the money-bombs Ron Paul did.

    He needs to lend his campaign 50 million dollars or so and do the money-bombs Ron Paul did.

    He should do what Jerry Brown did in 1992 ie., not accept contributions greater than $200, as then he can still claim he’s not beholden to the big donor money.

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  102. IBC says:
    @Diversity Heretic
    I'm an American ex-pat, originally from Iowa. Trump has been set back slightly, because it's always better to win. But Iowa is not a representative state, and the caucus process leads to results different than either a primary or general election. So the setback is probably not serious.

    Given the advantage that the Democratic Party has in the electoral college, the strange way that the U.S. elects a President, the real news is on the Democratic side--Sanders is doing much better than I thought he would. He may do even better in the New Hampshire primary, since he is a long-time Congressman and Senator from the neighboring state of Vermong.

    Glad to see a non-American interested in U.S. politics.

    “Vermong” Was that a Freudian typo? I think Sanders has been accused of having been a Sandinista fanboy, back in the day. But I haven’t heard anything about his having shown open support for the Viet Cong like Jane Fonda did.

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    Not to mention that he honeymooned in Cuba, taking his new bride on tours of collective farms, etc. I love that Sanders has no love for billionaires who would outsource their own grandmother if they could add 1 cent to the bottom line, but let's be real - the man is an old school friggin' Communist.
    , @Diversity Heretic
    Vermong was a typographical error. My eyes are simply not what they used to be. My typing skills were never all that good.

    But your comment does raise the interesting observation that Bernie Sanders is not, to my knowledge, technically a Democrat, unless he has changed recently. At least while a House member, he ran on the platform of the Vermont Progressive Party, essentially a socialist platform. In fairness, he was by no means the furthest left Member of the House of Representatives during his time there. I remember Republicans saying that the Democrats were caucasing with the Socialists.
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  103. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @22pp22
    I am not American, but this really matters to me. I really want Trump to win because, as America goes, so goes the rest of the Western World. Has Trump been set back by this result?

    It’s a serious setback but not because of its result. It’s very bad because it’s a harbinger of what’s coming. And what’s coming is people increasingly voting for Rubio to stop Trump.

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  104. tbraton says:
    @Wilkey
    I certainly don't doubt that Rubio could win, especially if Trump and Cruz continue to split the anti-establishment vote. I just think it's unlikely. Eventually Trump or Cruz will stumble. Trump doesn't have much of a ground game, and seems a bit unwilling to spend a huge chunk of his fortune on campaign expenses. He does have to start looking like a serious candidate sooner or later.

    Trump will continue to underperform his polls, and Rubio is still polling third in state after state, including his home state of Florida. It's hard to see how Rubio translates all that into a victory.

    “Eventually Trump or Cruz will stumble. Trump doesn’t have much of a ground game, and seems a bit unwilling to spend a huge chunk of his fortune on campaign expenses. He does have to start looking like a serious candidate sooner or later.”

    Like a smart businessman, Trump decided not to devote a lot of resources to Iowa, especially when the polls, until recently, showed him consistently trailing Cruz. Take the example of Mitt Romney, who in 2008 devoted a lot resources to Iowa (including spending a substantial sum on the meaningless “Ames Poll”) and lost by a healthy margin to Mike Huckabee, who, of course, went on to do very poorly in New Hampshire. In 2012, Romney didn’t spend a dime on the Ames Poll and little time in Iowa up until the last moment and initially was proclaimed the winner of the Iowa caucuses until a later recount showed Rick Santorum actually won by a narrow margin. Romney went on to win 39% of the NH primary, while Santorum got slightly under 10%.

    I predict that the same result will occur this year. While Iowa and New Hampshire appear to be similar on the surface, with the same percentages of whites and same percentages of Hispanics, evangelicals do not play nearly the role in NH that they play in Iowa. That’s why politicians who do well in Iowa (Huckabee, Santorum) do miserably in NH. The polls have been showing the same pattern this cycle. That’s why I expect both Cruz and Rubio to do far less well in NH than they did in Iowa and Trump to win by a very healthy margin.

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  105. Jack D says:

    I was very surprised that Steve had nothing to say about this:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/02/opinion/campaign-stops/how-both-parties-lost-the-white-middle-class.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=span-abc-region&region=span-abc-region&WT.nav=span-abc-region&_r=0

    Now for the isteve crowd, Reno’s analysis hardly breaks new ground, but for Mr. Salim’s NY f’ing Times, this was more truth telling than we usually get.

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    Jack, doing the famous Steve test of "ctrl-f" for 'immi' turns up no hits. Though they do somewhat refer to it in this passage.

    White America is being displaced by a multicultural America, and especially on the right, voters are retreating to racist posturing.
     
    Yeah, I think that gets at the immivasion without mentioning the immivasion.
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  106. Jack D says:
    @IBC
    "Vermong" Was that a Freudian typo? I think Sanders has been accused of having been a Sandinista fanboy, back in the day. But I haven't heard anything about his having shown open support for the Viet Cong like Jane Fonda did.

    Not to mention that he honeymooned in Cuba, taking his new bride on tours of collective farms, etc. I love that Sanders has no love for billionaires who would outsource their own grandmother if they could add 1 cent to the bottom line, but let’s be real – the man is an old school friggin’ Communist.

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    Not just a Commie, but part of the Rape Culture!

    http://nypost.com/2015/05/29/bernie-sanders-wrote-an-essay-saying-that-women-fantasize-about-rape/
    , @Olorin
    I agree with that...from exposure to the Democratic Socialists back in the day. As with all cosmological entities living far in the past and retreating from the rest of us at speed, Bernie's hugely red-shifted.

    DSA was founded by Michael Harrington, who was an old-timey Midwest Dorothy Day/settlement house type socialist. (He was born in St. Louis.) He became an ex-Catholic but reviled the pro-Stalin/pro-commie Catholics and Jews who were pushing Bolshevism. He was vehemently anti-Communist. He warned strongly that as people evolved past the need for religion, the values of "Jewish and Christian" western civilization not get lost. To my knowledge he never left his adopted home borough, Queens.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2000/08/the-still-relevant-socialist/378331/

    He was brilliantly prescient on the matter of globalization and western civilization. But I wrote him off in the mid 1980s as he refused to consider emerging research on genetics and race/intelligence. But I think he was probably a very good man. Just, like many Irish Catholics of his generation, not well adapted for anything after the 1970s.

    Bernie was more the kind of NY Jew who did the civil rights tikkun olam thing in the '60s...but fled to the Jewish agrarian heartland to the north as soon as he could, and stayed there. I view this as his pronouncement on how he feels both about white mainstream culture AND black/Puerto Rican culture.

    To this day Bernie doesn't know what to do about blacks, while the rest of us have had to muddle along in the Cibbil Frights Moooovement, right up to its apotheosis of vehement anti-white racism, without being able to look away politely and be jetted off to our next opportunity.

    He is most certainly a communist in principle, if no longer in fact:

    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2266

    And like all SJWs he's good at hawking ideology, not praxis, and doubles down on failure every time.

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  107. Jack D says:
    @Wilkey
    "Iowa – The land of stupid evangelicuck imbeciles"

    Iowa has the 6th lowest murder rate in the country.

    Despite testing a huge portion of its high school students (67%) Iowa students have the 17th highest ACT scores, more than a point above the national average.

    Perhaps not mind-bogglingly impressive, but it's hard to call them stupid.

    In any analysis of standard test scores or murder rate, you have to adjust for relative whiteness or your results will just be a proxy for the racial composition of the state. Iowa is the #6 whitest state so they are punching below their weight academically (but right in line in terms of murder rate).

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    In defense for a second of the intelligence of my home state (since I'm an example, albeit an aging one), I suspect that part of the reason why Iowa might not do so well is that many more students take the college entrance exams (mostly the ACT) proportionately than in other states. That's just a hunch, but Steve Sailer has observed that one way to improve your scores is to convince marginal students not to take standardized tests on which you expect they will score poorly. Iowa teachers probably do not do this, although it's been a long time since I was a student there.
    , @Wilkey
    Yes, but that analysis also has to include the share of students taking the test. Only one state scoring higher than Iowa (Minnesota) has a higher share of its students taking the ACT. The vast majority have half as many, at most. 7 of the 10 states with the lowest ACT average require all their students to take it.
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  108. Hepp says:

    OT, but NYT magazine has an article about how doctors at USC used to sterilize poor women, and how some Latina SJW helped put an end to all that.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/01/magazine/when-doctors-took-family-planning-into-their-own-hands.html?emc=edit_tnt_20160201&nlid=62382746&tntemail0=y

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  109. IBC says:

    Last night, NPR interviewed a Latino political activist who shared that Jeb had hired more Hispanic consultants/campaign workers in Iowa than any other Republican in history –I think it was five or six. After the last presidential election, the Republican “autopsy” results (as energetically promoted by pretty much everyone on NPR), show that right now, Jeb should be winning rather than whining. NPR commentators are even starting to sound sorry for him. But as far as I’ve heard (which is less than usual), they still haven’t offered him much help troubleshooting.

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  110. @Jack D
    Not to mention that he honeymooned in Cuba, taking his new bride on tours of collective farms, etc. I love that Sanders has no love for billionaires who would outsource their own grandmother if they could add 1 cent to the bottom line, but let's be real - the man is an old school friggin' Communist.
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  111. tbraton says:
    @MarkinLA
    I believe the only net energy positive way to produce ethanol is via cane sugar. There is no energy wasted converting starch to sugar and the raw feed stock can be burned pretty efficiently to produce any energy needed to run the facility.

    I think you’re right, Markin. That’s why I carefully limited my comment to corn ethanol. I know that they produce much cheaper ethanol in Brazil using sugar cane remnants after it has been processed for sugar, but, as I recall, we have restrictions in place to limit its use in this country (the same restrictions we apparently can’t apply to manufactured goods since they would violate the Bible or something like that). I don’t know how ethanol in Brazil is faring since the huge drop in oil prices or whether it has affected at all.

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  112. iSteveFan says:
    @Jack D
    I was very surprised that Steve had nothing to say about this:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/02/opinion/campaign-stops/how-both-parties-lost-the-white-middle-class.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=span-abc-region&region=span-abc-region&WT.nav=span-abc-region&_r=0

    Now for the isteve crowd, Reno's analysis hardly breaks new ground, but for Mr. Salim's NY f'ing Times, this was more truth telling than we usually get.

    Jack, doing the famous Steve test of “ctrl-f” for ‘immi’ turns up no hits. Though they do somewhat refer to it in this passage.

    White America is being displaced by a multicultural America, and especially on the right, voters are retreating to racist posturing.

    Yeah, I think that gets at the immivasion without mentioning the immivasion.

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  113. iSteveFan says:

    Here is a pretty good article by Laura Ingraham about the need for Cruz/Trump supporters to make sure they don’t eat each other and allow Rubio to win this thing. She makes some good points

    It’s safe to say that there are four candidates who are unacceptable to the Establishment: Cruz, Trump, Ben Carson and Sen. Rand Paul. Together, those candidates amassed 65.8 percent of the vote in Iowa. The candidates that the Establishment can accept are Rubio, Jeb Bush, Gov. Chris Christie and Gov. John Kasich. Together, they secured a measly 29.6 percent of the Iowa vote.

    This is the distinction that really matters. If the Cruz people start thinking they have more in common with the Rubio people than the Trump people, then we may as well hand the nomination to Marco right now. Rubio is about to get a huge boost from the mainstream press, GOP elected officials, and the Donor Class. Under these circumstances, it will take the combined efforts of Trump and Cruz to defeat Rubio.

    Going forward, Trump should drop the Canadian birthplace line of attack, and Cruz should stop ridiculing Trump. Instead, both should focus on the failures of the Rubio Establishment — like their support for the Trans Pacific Partnership, immigration amnesty and increasing the budget deficit.

    The Establishment is crafty, extremely well financed and supremely well organized. They can still find a way to win, and they are implacably determined to do so. They’ve done it the previous two election cycles, and each time, the Republican nominee has lost the general election.

    By forging a strategic alliance — today — Cruz and Trump can ensure that this does not happen again.

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    A great idea, but it would require the Stupid Party to change its ways, and that's not gonna happen. Too many "Republicans" make a good living by being losers.
    , @rod1963
    She's spot on.

    Cruz is hated by the establishment and won't get the nomination - that will go either to Rubio, Jeb or Kasich.

    Both Cruz and Trump has to seriously go after Rubio, not to get his voters, they won't. Rubio's base seems to be young college educated types(the same sort Obama reeled in) along with mainstream GOPers who want a another GW Bush - more wars in the ME, a war with Russia and China, along with open borders and amnesty at home.
    , @Corvinus
    While Ms. Ingraham makes salient points, need we remind her she is part of the "donor class" and "establishment".
    , @tbraton
    I believe I heard Laura Ingraham state last night on FOX that Rubio will be the Republican nominee. I think the road is far too long and Rubio is not doing terribly well in subsequent state polls (including Rubio's home state of Florida) to be making such a prediction. But then Laura Ingraham does work for FOX. One other interesting thing I observed last night before I turned off the TV was that ace journalist Megyn Kelly, while trumpeting Cruz's victory in Iowa, did not once make any observation about the poor history of Iowa winners in the next primary in New Hampshire. Here are winners of the Iowa caucuses and the NH primary the past six contested elections going back to 1980:

    1980 GHW Bush Reagan
    1988 Dole GHW Bush
    1996 Dole Buchanan
    2000 GW Bush McCain
    2008 Huckabee McCain
    2012 Santorum Romney

    The history is so clear that it was a journalistic act of malpractice to not bring it up.
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  114. Barnard says:
    @Jason Bayz
    Is it even remotely true that Rubio is a "backbencher?" He drafted the Gang of 8 Bill, which seems pretty important to me.

    Bush's attitude is great news going into New Hampshire. It's one of the few states where the population is receptive to the message of the establishment candidates. Combined they have 22.2% nationally in the Real Clear Politics polling average, whereas they have 41.3% in New Hampshire, as it's divided between 5 candidates Trump will win. We should hope for the establishment vote to be divided for as long as possible. My sense is that Christie, Fiorina, and Bush will stay in for quite awhile. They all seem quite narcissistic and will be hoping for a good debate performance. Kasich seems a lot less narcissistic, he will probably drop out after New Hampshire due to his lack of national appeal.

    I can image the panicked calls from the usual suspects telling the establishment candidates to drop out "for the good of the country."

    Their reaction:

    "What country?"

    Is it even remotely true that Rubio is a “backbencher?” He drafted the Gang of 8 Bill, which seems pretty important to me.

    Not that it gives Senor Jeb any credibility to make that claim, but I’d say yes. Rubio basically gave up after the Gang of 8 fiasco and decided not to run for reelection regardless of how the Presidential campaign played out early in 2015.

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  115. @IBC
    "Vermong" Was that a Freudian typo? I think Sanders has been accused of having been a Sandinista fanboy, back in the day. But I haven't heard anything about his having shown open support for the Viet Cong like Jane Fonda did.

    Vermong was a typographical error. My eyes are simply not what they used to be. My typing skills were never all that good.

    But your comment does raise the interesting observation that Bernie Sanders is not, to my knowledge, technically a Democrat, unless he has changed recently. At least while a House member, he ran on the platform of the Vermont Progressive Party, essentially a socialist platform. In fairness, he was by no means the furthest left Member of the House of Representatives during his time there. I remember Republicans saying that the Democrats were caucasing with the Socialists.

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  116. @Jack D
    In any analysis of standard test scores or murder rate, you have to adjust for relative whiteness or your results will just be a proxy for the racial composition of the state. Iowa is the #6 whitest state so they are punching below their weight academically (but right in line in terms of murder rate).

    In defense for a second of the intelligence of my home state (since I’m an example, albeit an aging one), I suspect that part of the reason why Iowa might not do so well is that many more students take the college entrance exams (mostly the ACT) proportionately than in other states. That’s just a hunch, but Steve Sailer has observed that one way to improve your scores is to convince marginal students not to take standardized tests on which you expect they will score poorly. Iowa teachers probably do not do this, although it’s been a long time since I was a student there.

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  117. asdf says:

    My last name is Bush. Nominate me! Waaahh..

    Ah ha! Go back to Mexico Jeb. I’m sure they’ll love you.

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  118. @iSteveFan
    Here is a pretty good article by Laura Ingraham about the need for Cruz/Trump supporters to make sure they don't eat each other and allow Rubio to win this thing. She makes some good points

    It’s safe to say that there are four candidates who are unacceptable to the Establishment: Cruz, Trump, Ben Carson and Sen. Rand Paul. Together, those candidates amassed 65.8 percent of the vote in Iowa. The candidates that the Establishment can accept are Rubio, Jeb Bush, Gov. Chris Christie and Gov. John Kasich. Together, they secured a measly 29.6 percent of the Iowa vote.

    This is the distinction that really matters. If the Cruz people start thinking they have more in common with the Rubio people than the Trump people, then we may as well hand the nomination to Marco right now. Rubio is about to get a huge boost from the mainstream press, GOP elected officials, and the Donor Class. Under these circumstances, it will take the combined efforts of Trump and Cruz to defeat Rubio.

    ...

    Going forward, Trump should drop the Canadian birthplace line of attack, and Cruz should stop ridiculing Trump. Instead, both should focus on the failures of the Rubio Establishment — like their support for the Trans Pacific Partnership, immigration amnesty and increasing the budget deficit.

    The Establishment is crafty, extremely well financed and supremely well organized. They can still find a way to win, and they are implacably determined to do so. They’ve done it the previous two election cycles, and each time, the Republican nominee has lost the general election.

    By forging a strategic alliance — today — Cruz and Trump can ensure that this does not happen again.
     

    A great idea, but it would require the Stupid Party to change its ways, and that’s not gonna happen. Too many “Republicans” make a good living by being losers.

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  119. AndrewR says:
    @Threecranes
    "baby boomers are truly the worst generation"

    I'm one of them and unfortunately there is too much truth in what you say. We erred in not telling our children that the whole inclusion thing was just a passing fad, conceived of and spoken in a fog of pot smoke. "Hey kids, you weren't supposed to take it seriously." After all, we didn't. Although we marched with blacks during protests on campus, just look at who we chose for neighbors when we went to buy a house and start a family. Not a groid in sight.

    But our daughters really believed that they were supposed to earn their liberal bonafides by dating black guys. And our sons listen to mono-tonal ghetto music on the radio to the exclusion of everything else. The music put out by modern white guys is tepid and thin, a distant echo of the muscular, melodic Rock of our, the baby-boomer generation. Modern white-guy music is a thin cry of anguish at being ignored by the wider culture in general and white girls in particular.

    And our election of rootless Obama, an abandoned, mixed-race, foster child, adopted out to a family of an alien culture and then raised by his Grandparents was and is the perfect expression of our dazed and confused state. We attributed magical powers to him and bestowed honorifics upon ourselves for our open mindedness and magnanimity in helping the symbol of a prostrate race off the mat. But self congratulation is not an adequate map or basis for a plan for moving forwards.

    So, we'll just throw it all at you and leave it to your generation to figure out.

    Good Luck!

    At least save some money to leave us when you die

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  120. Whiskey says: • Website

    The problem is White people, it always has been. Or more specifically, White women in places like Iowa who believe that mass Third World Immigration will be a good thing because it will purge the place out of those icky White beta males, like the White man suing Yahoo for being fired due to his White male non-gay status.

    Fundamentally, there is a lack of solidarity among White women for their men, unless they live for generations among lots of hostile non-Whites like the South. And even then there is a significant minority of White women who will side with the hostile races against their male peers.

    It is fundamentally a feature of White sexual competition which worked very well in isolation from other races when disdain for those men sufficiently unsexy had little society wide consequences.

    Rubio yes is another Obama. A “Diverse” aka non-White figure who can fit in the disdain for male peers.

    Trump needs to get serious; with paid organizers not consultants getting people out to vote. Now. Secondly he needs to scour and find horrific examples of Third World immigration (not hard) in the West, preferably with video (also not hard) and best of all, Muslim men harassing and owning White women in Europe and beating those White men intervening. And make that part of his push to limit immigration. While White women do hate hate hate White beta males, being the possession of a low class, peon in the immavasion army was not their plan — rather it was to be the new princess of the “Vampire Army” invading or Game of Thrones army or whatever pop culture metaphor you like.

    Trump needs to play on women’s fears — of being just a disposable thing to young, violent conquerors who will dispose of them like trash once they are done — and connect that DIRECTLY to Rubio. DIRECTLY.

    It is better to be feared than loved.

    At least now Trump knows the battlefield, the terrain, and the main opponent — Boy Rubio not Cruz.

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  121. rod1963 says:
    @anon
    Comment names are for attention whores.

    The Jeebus freaks of Iowa eff things up again. Felito Cruz is a fraud on immigration and a globalist. He is a huge H1B fan, wants legal status for illegals, and has an obvious personal bias in favor of immigration. I'd rather have Rubio than that frowny faced Canadian weasel. At least he's more transparent.

    Even Reagan couldn’t pull a win off in Iowa. Those people are seriously screwy.

    Rubio did very well among city slickers and in university towns. Evidently the more educated prefer their politicians stupid and corrupt. Must be a IQ thing.

    The Jeebus set has problems as well. Their religion blinds them to the point they’ll vote for some fraud like Cruz because because he has the right religious credentials not understanding he’ll destroy their way of life if given the chance once in power.

    They thought GW Bush was one of them as well and he turned out to be a Muslim sympathizer, globalist and off-shorer that helped wreck our economy and flood the country with illegals.

    They aren’t rational nor pragmatic.

    There is every possibility the Evangelicals will throw enough primaries to Cruz that we’ll end up with a brokered convention where the insiders give the nomination to some oligarch like Jeb or Rubio.

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    Not all Christian fundamentalists agreed or agree with the decision to go into partisan politics. The smarter ones remain aloof. There are a few odd Christian fundamentalist Democrats, just like there are a few Mormon Democrats and Republican Jews.
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  122. rod1963 says:
    @iSteveFan
    Here is a pretty good article by Laura Ingraham about the need for Cruz/Trump supporters to make sure they don't eat each other and allow Rubio to win this thing. She makes some good points

    It’s safe to say that there are four candidates who are unacceptable to the Establishment: Cruz, Trump, Ben Carson and Sen. Rand Paul. Together, those candidates amassed 65.8 percent of the vote in Iowa. The candidates that the Establishment can accept are Rubio, Jeb Bush, Gov. Chris Christie and Gov. John Kasich. Together, they secured a measly 29.6 percent of the Iowa vote.

    This is the distinction that really matters. If the Cruz people start thinking they have more in common with the Rubio people than the Trump people, then we may as well hand the nomination to Marco right now. Rubio is about to get a huge boost from the mainstream press, GOP elected officials, and the Donor Class. Under these circumstances, it will take the combined efforts of Trump and Cruz to defeat Rubio.

    ...

    Going forward, Trump should drop the Canadian birthplace line of attack, and Cruz should stop ridiculing Trump. Instead, both should focus on the failures of the Rubio Establishment — like their support for the Trans Pacific Partnership, immigration amnesty and increasing the budget deficit.

    The Establishment is crafty, extremely well financed and supremely well organized. They can still find a way to win, and they are implacably determined to do so. They’ve done it the previous two election cycles, and each time, the Republican nominee has lost the general election.

    By forging a strategic alliance — today — Cruz and Trump can ensure that this does not happen again.
     

    She’s spot on.

    Cruz is hated by the establishment and won’t get the nomination – that will go either to Rubio, Jeb or Kasich.

    Both Cruz and Trump has to seriously go after Rubio, not to get his voters, they won’t. Rubio’s base seems to be young college educated types(the same sort Obama reeled in) along with mainstream GOPers who want a another GW Bush – more wars in the ME, a war with Russia and China, along with open borders and amnesty at home.

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  123. Wilkey says:
    @Jack D
    In any analysis of standard test scores or murder rate, you have to adjust for relative whiteness or your results will just be a proxy for the racial composition of the state. Iowa is the #6 whitest state so they are punching below their weight academically (but right in line in terms of murder rate).

    Yes, but that analysis also has to include the share of students taking the test. Only one state scoring higher than Iowa (Minnesota) has a higher share of its students taking the ACT. The vast majority have half as many, at most. 7 of the 10 states with the lowest ACT average require all their students to take it.

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  124. Ed says:

    One way that the establishment has gamed the primary system is that the front-runner/ favored candidate of the establishment can lose either Iowa and New Hampshire (or if absolutely necessary both, as Bill Clinton did) and come back later and still win. But a non-establishment candidate absolutely has to win at least won of the two to be viable, and unless he wins both, as Carter did in 1976, the establishment can always rally behind their chosen candidate and come back later.

    For Trump, Iowa was not a must-win state, but he is now in a position where he has to win New Hampshire. And the favored establishment candidate, Rubio, has demonstrated enough strength that the establishment can rally around him. The only problem with the establishment’s strategic position is that Kasich is both in a better position than Rubio to win New Hampshire, and would make a much better general election candidate, but I think that the establishment prefers Rubio as someone they can more easily control, if only because of his personal finances. I wouldn’t be surprised for Rubio to win New Hampshire and then sweep everything, and if not he will get the money to keep going until he breaks through in one of the later primaries.

    The Democratic establishment is in a much worse position than their Republican counterparts, since Hilary Clinton is demonstrating enough weakness that they will probably have to figure out how to put in a last minute substitution in the middle of the primaries, there has been speculation about Biden, but I think either Kerry or Bloomberg is more likely. But its not supposed to be the Democrats’ year to win anyway.

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  125. Corvinus says:
    @iSteveFan
    Here is a pretty good article by Laura Ingraham about the need for Cruz/Trump supporters to make sure they don't eat each other and allow Rubio to win this thing. She makes some good points

    It’s safe to say that there are four candidates who are unacceptable to the Establishment: Cruz, Trump, Ben Carson and Sen. Rand Paul. Together, those candidates amassed 65.8 percent of the vote in Iowa. The candidates that the Establishment can accept are Rubio, Jeb Bush, Gov. Chris Christie and Gov. John Kasich. Together, they secured a measly 29.6 percent of the Iowa vote.

    This is the distinction that really matters. If the Cruz people start thinking they have more in common with the Rubio people than the Trump people, then we may as well hand the nomination to Marco right now. Rubio is about to get a huge boost from the mainstream press, GOP elected officials, and the Donor Class. Under these circumstances, it will take the combined efforts of Trump and Cruz to defeat Rubio.

    ...

    Going forward, Trump should drop the Canadian birthplace line of attack, and Cruz should stop ridiculing Trump. Instead, both should focus on the failures of the Rubio Establishment — like their support for the Trans Pacific Partnership, immigration amnesty and increasing the budget deficit.

    The Establishment is crafty, extremely well financed and supremely well organized. They can still find a way to win, and they are implacably determined to do so. They’ve done it the previous two election cycles, and each time, the Republican nominee has lost the general election.

    By forging a strategic alliance — today — Cruz and Trump can ensure that this does not happen again.
     

    While Ms. Ingraham makes salient points, need we remind her she is part of the “donor class” and “establishment”.

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  126. MEH 0910 says:
    @MarkinLA
    I believe the only net energy positive way to produce ethanol is via cane sugar. There is no energy wasted converting starch to sugar and the raw feed stock can be burned pretty efficiently to produce any energy needed to run the facility.

    Cane sugar ethanol should go in rum bottles and gasoline should go in fuel tanks.

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  127. BB753 says:
    @Diversity Heretic
    I last lived in Iowa in 1979, so my first-hand experience is obviously out-of-date, but I have close relatives in the state, visit it when I can, and sort of follow it. So take what I say in light of that disclaimer.

    My answer to your question is no, Iowans are not natural Trump supporters, even in the absence of the evangelical Christian and ethanol subsidies. Trump, to many Iowans, is an abrasive New York real estate/casino developer on his third trophy wife. His claim to fame is a television program in which he summarily fired a contestant a week. Moreover, his principal policy difference with the rest of the Republican field, immigration, is something that doesn't yet resonate with most Iowans. Iowa has only limited immigration, so it's still the smiling Mexican restaurant owner, and not the drug gang that Iowans think of when they think immigration.

    So I'm surprised that Trump did as well as he did. It tells me that, even in Iowa, Donald Trump is tapping into an anxiety about where the country is headed. The dead heat between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders on the Democratic side, also tells me the same anxiety is being felt there as well.

    So there's my take--worth every penny you paid for it!

    Thanks! It makes sense! All in all, Trump did well in Iowa.

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  128. @MarkinLA
    I believe the only net energy positive way to produce ethanol is via cane sugar. There is no energy wasted converting starch to sugar and the raw feed stock can be burned pretty efficiently to produce any energy needed to run the facility.

    I’ve often wondered why we don’t use our overpriced American cane sugar for this.

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    http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/01/10/the-killer-politics-of-big-sugar/
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  129. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Rob McX

    Never happen sport. Blacks will stick with whitey till the end. They are smart enough to know a good thing when they see it. Not smart enough to CREATE a good thing though. Look at Haiti, or any other black run paradise.

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  130. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @DPG
    Question for commenters who know the inside baseball of campaigns.

    We've just witnessed jeb's campaign blow through a huge war chest for negligible results. Do the consultants working for him suffer any consequences in their careers? Do they have to go work for some small time incumbents in impregnable districts to rebuild credibility? Or can they just blame Jeb as a bad candidate and hop right back on high profile senate and presidential campaigns?

    Look at all those clowns who said Iraq had “weapons of mass destruction” and was supposedly a great “threat” to the USA. Nothing happened to them.

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  131. Wencil says:

    Assume that as we enter the convention Trump has thirty percent of the delegates and Cruz has thirty percent. Let’s say they form a ticket with one as president and on as vp. They order their delegates to vote for their combined ticket. Will the delegates follow orders?

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  132. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Third Parties cannot win in American politics, but they can make a difference.

    More than the Florida recount, the 2000 election was decided by Ralph Nader. Had it not been for Nader, Gore would surely have won as all those Nader votes would have gone to Gore.

    And Teddy Roosevelt messed it up for Taft.

    Third Parties cannot but can play spoiler.

    Some say Perot spoiled it for Bush I, but I dunno. I think a good percentage of Perot votes could have gone to Clinton as well as to Bush.

    Because Third Parties cannot win but play spoiler, a right-wing third party would be effective posing as a left-wing third party. It will suck votes from th Liberal party and help the Conservative party win.

    A left third party hurts the mainstream left party, and right third party hurts the mainstream right party.
    Third party is almost always a boon to the mainstream of the other side.

    But there are exceptions. When the Third Party becomes so big, as in France with National Front, the mainstream right and mainstream left–along with far left–may all have to come together to hold it back.

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    Anon,

    I see both parties as being in big trouble.

    Right now there's more people who are Independents -- around 40% -- than are either Republicans or Democrats.

    Then there's the people like me who are more than ready to leave one of the big two parties for a new party that actually represents me, my concerns and my interests.

    I think we could see the history of new parties and third parties in the US change.

    Or to put it another way: How much long can the American people stick with the parties that have left them? How much longer will the American people put up with the baloney that both parties have been handing them for years?
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  133. MSP says:

    Totally unrelated, but this seems like an iSteve kind of story. DC will pay kids not to commit crimes: http://wtop.com/dc/2016/02/dc-bill-would-pay-people-stipends-not-to-commit-crimes/

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    Simply unfreaking believable…

    From the linked article:

    "Councilmember Kenyan McDuffie [black], a Democrat who wrote the legislation….argued that spending $9,000 a year in stipends “pales in comparison” to the cost of someone being victimized, along with the costs of incarcerating the offender.

    “I want to prevent violent crime — particularly gun violence — by addressing the root causes and creating opportunities for people, particularly those individuals who are at the highest risks of offending,” McDuffie, a former prosecutor, said in a letter to constituents last week.

    Democratic Mayor Muriel Bowser has not committed to funding the program, which would cost $4.9 million over four years, including $460,000 a year in stipend payments…"

    How is it that perpetrators of violent crime are repackaged as "individuals who are at the highest risk…"? They are no longer nouns (criminal) that do verbs (murder, rape) but indirect objects towards whom something is being done and who therefore stand in risk of being victimized???

    Let's see, $460,000 in stipends x 4 years = $1,840,000. $4,900,000 - $1,840,000 = $3,100,000. So, 1.84/4.90=38% of the money allocated will actually end up in the hands of those downtrodden at-risk murderers while 62% will go towards administering the program, no doubt providing Affirmative Action jobs for McDuffie's peers. Hey, it's a win/win!!!

    And finally, this program doesn't so much seem to be a system of reward/punishment as it is a form of blackmail. "Hand over the loot or we'll rob and murder you." I believe the Vikings used much the same tactic while ravaging the English coast and the English King used much the same reasoning as does McDuffie, arguing thus: "It's cheaper just to buy them off (with Danegeld) than to pay for the effects of their marauding". And the English King responsible for this craven cowardice has been immortalized in history with the sobriquet "Aethelred the Unready".
    , @Jim Don Bob
    Sample Interview

    Social Worker: "So, d'Jon, did you do no crimes dis monf?"
    d'Jon: "truth".
    Social Worker: "Ok, here be a Benjamin".
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  134. Blah says:

    Hillary won 6/6 coin tosses to win 6 deadlocked precincts?

    Remember when she turned $1,000 into $100,000 with cattle futures?

    Luckiest person ever!

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Rodham_cattle_futures_controversy

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  135. Olorin says:
    @Lagertha
    don't be sad...with Trump, there is always a long game. He is crafty. Also, Iowa, jeezus,
    those poor losers just voted in Cruz whose gonna strip them of the money from ethanol...those dumb asses don't even know how much of a mistake they made for the future of their children/their lands. Maybe a new Las Vegas (but no, there is only enough money for the real LV) in the midst of those pretty plains. I admired Iowa when I spent time there a few years ago - now, they dug their own grave.

    Erm, WADR you’re batting a beachball thrown into the pool by the UniParty “consultants.”

    Not everybody in Iowa is a corn farmer, you realize. Nor gives a shite about ethanol subsidies.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2016/01/23/do-iowa-voters-really-care-about-ethanol-anymore/

    Now let me think a moment. Last I looked, federal ethanol subsidies in toto ran to about $2 billion a year.

    To put that into context, that was just $200 mil more than the city of Baltimore, alone, received from federal “stimulus” funds, alone:

    http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/05/05/baltimore-city-received-1-8-billion-in-federal-stimulus-money/

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/05/not_enough_money_baltimore_got_18_embillionem_from_obama_stimulus_.html

    The majority of which (nearly $840 million) went to Nick Mosby’s district (Marilyn Mosby’s husband).

    What you don’t seem to realize is that one major reason for the ethanol “subsidy” is to keep corn being grown. You can’t just turn that on and off like TV/the internet. It’s like shipbuilding, or energy production, or an internet server farm.

    Here’s one (of many) reasons why:

    https://newrepublic.com/article/122441/corn-wars

    Civilization isn’t just about degree of technical advancement. It’s about the broad-based institutional/organizational support and effective cultural/genetic base that undergirds it. (Which is why China’s stealing US agricultural innovation in the first place.)

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  136. Olorin says:
    @Jack D
    Not to mention that he honeymooned in Cuba, taking his new bride on tours of collective farms, etc. I love that Sanders has no love for billionaires who would outsource their own grandmother if they could add 1 cent to the bottom line, but let's be real - the man is an old school friggin' Communist.

    I agree with that…from exposure to the Democratic Socialists back in the day. As with all cosmological entities living far in the past and retreating from the rest of us at speed, Bernie’s hugely red-shifted.

    DSA was founded by Michael Harrington, who was an old-timey Midwest Dorothy Day/settlement house type socialist. (He was born in St. Louis.) He became an ex-Catholic but reviled the pro-Stalin/pro-commie Catholics and Jews who were pushing Bolshevism. He was vehemently anti-Communist. He warned strongly that as people evolved past the need for religion, the values of “Jewish and Christian” western civilization not get lost. To my knowledge he never left his adopted home borough, Queens.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2000/08/the-still-relevant-socialist/378331/

    He was brilliantly prescient on the matter of globalization and western civilization. But I wrote him off in the mid 1980s as he refused to consider emerging research on genetics and race/intelligence. But I think he was probably a very good man. Just, like many Irish Catholics of his generation, not well adapted for anything after the 1970s.

    Bernie was more the kind of NY Jew who did the civil rights tikkun olam thing in the ’60s…but fled to the Jewish agrarian heartland to the north as soon as he could, and stayed there. I view this as his pronouncement on how he feels both about white mainstream culture AND black/Puerto Rican culture.

    To this day Bernie doesn’t know what to do about blacks, while the rest of us have had to muddle along in the Cibbil Frights Moooovement, right up to its apotheosis of vehement anti-white racism, without being able to look away politely and be jetted off to our next opportunity.

    He is most certainly a communist in principle, if no longer in fact:

    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2266

    And like all SJWs he’s good at hawking ideology, not praxis, and doubles down on failure every time.

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  137. tbraton says:
    @iSteveFan
    Here is a pretty good article by Laura Ingraham about the need for Cruz/Trump supporters to make sure they don't eat each other and allow Rubio to win this thing. She makes some good points

    It’s safe to say that there are four candidates who are unacceptable to the Establishment: Cruz, Trump, Ben Carson and Sen. Rand Paul. Together, those candidates amassed 65.8 percent of the vote in Iowa. The candidates that the Establishment can accept are Rubio, Jeb Bush, Gov. Chris Christie and Gov. John Kasich. Together, they secured a measly 29.6 percent of the Iowa vote.

    This is the distinction that really matters. If the Cruz people start thinking they have more in common with the Rubio people than the Trump people, then we may as well hand the nomination to Marco right now. Rubio is about to get a huge boost from the mainstream press, GOP elected officials, and the Donor Class. Under these circumstances, it will take the combined efforts of Trump and Cruz to defeat Rubio.

    ...

    Going forward, Trump should drop the Canadian birthplace line of attack, and Cruz should stop ridiculing Trump. Instead, both should focus on the failures of the Rubio Establishment — like their support for the Trans Pacific Partnership, immigration amnesty and increasing the budget deficit.

    The Establishment is crafty, extremely well financed and supremely well organized. They can still find a way to win, and they are implacably determined to do so. They’ve done it the previous two election cycles, and each time, the Republican nominee has lost the general election.

    By forging a strategic alliance — today — Cruz and Trump can ensure that this does not happen again.
     

    I believe I heard Laura Ingraham state last night on FOX that Rubio will be the Republican nominee. I think the road is far too long and Rubio is not doing terribly well in subsequent state polls (including Rubio’s home state of Florida) to be making such a prediction. But then Laura Ingraham does work for FOX. One other interesting thing I observed last night before I turned off the TV was that ace journalist Megyn Kelly, while trumpeting Cruz’s victory in Iowa, did not once make any observation about the poor history of Iowa winners in the next primary in New Hampshire. Here are winners of the Iowa caucuses and the NH primary the past six contested elections going back to 1980:

    1980 GHW Bush Reagan
    1988 Dole GHW Bush
    1996 Dole Buchanan
    2000 GW Bush McCain
    2008 Huckabee McCain
    2012 Santorum Romney

    The history is so clear that it was a journalistic act of malpractice to not bring it up.

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    tbraton is correct on the history of the Iowa caucus.

    Their rules makes them very vulnerable to manipulation, though historically this has been more of a problem for the Democrats. But for Republicans, the evangelical influence means that they are just not very predictive on what appeals to the rest of the Republican electorate.

    By your figures, four Iowa caucus winners did not win the nomination, though they came in second. Two candidates who were not incumbent Presidents (Dole in 1996 and GW Bush in 2000) did, despite losing New Hampshire. Every incumbent President has won the Iowa caucus, in both parties.

    New Hampshire has somewhat of a better record, with only two cases of winners who did not go on to win the nomination (again, Dole in 1996 and GW Bush in 2000, in both cases they won in Iowa).

    For the Democrats, the one case of a Iowa caucus winner not being nominated is when the incumbent Iowa Senator Tom Harkin won in 1992. New Hampshire winners Hart, Tsongas, and Hilary Clinton have failed to be nominated. But the two parties behave somewhat differently in presidential primaries. The Democrats have a tendency to just fall in line for whoever the media and party elites anoint as a winner after a few early contests, not just for the times they have an incumbent president run, but for Gore in 2000 and Kerry in 20004. But there is a somewhat contradictory tendency to nominate people who have played a very short or weak role on the national stage. This may both stem from having more of a history of machine politics.
    , @Pat Gilligan
    Megyn Kelly is as useless as the 'ay' in okay.
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  138. @Uncle Peregrine
    I've often wondered why we don't use our overpriced American cane sugar for this.
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  139. CJ says:
    @Jim Don Bob
    Can we count on that?

    Here is another good thing about a Trump presidency: 25 percent of federal employees would quit under Trump presidency (http://www.politico.com/blogs/iowa-caucus-2016-live-updates/2016/02/federal-employees-quit-if-trump-president-218544)

    LOL blacks and liberals would leave the country, government employees would resign en masse … the Donald is a miracle man like no other politician!

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  140. It’s hard not to laugh at

    ¿Jeb?

    So I did.

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  141. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Lagertha
    Never said I was part of a brain trust! Ha, ha, more like a brain fart! And, have never worked in politics or fundraising! - never wanted to - don't need to - I was a random guest at the Q function, an accidental guest (it was a real estate gig - good thing I didn't say anything since I was way, way liberal in the 80's) - plus, I have my own fortune. You on the other hand, have no life, since you are up at night insulting a late 5o's mother of 3. I am for Trump, if you're not, then move on. This our critique/bull session.

    I asked if Dan Quayle fundraisers should be giving Trump advice at a critical time. If you think that’s insulting, you’re too hysterical and emotional for politics.

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    I asked if Dan Quayle fundraisers should be giving Trump advice at a critical time.
     
    "Dan Quayle Was Right" --Willem's wiser sister, in The Atlantic
    , @Lagertha
    Saw this late: You are correct that I may be too hysterical and emotional, but I am not professionally involved with politics, btw - I am a housewife, this I say, completely honestly. The problem with internet conversation is that there is no way one can be funny, snarky, or truthful without anyone or everyone reading between the lines and misunderstanding the humor, candor, whatever the poster meant. Capisce? Steve knows I don't like to fight or upset/insult people. And, I am emotional, and "high-strung," as the old term goes.
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  142. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Emblematic
    Where the heck did Rubio's 23% come from? If there was election fraud is there a way to find out?

    If there are similar incongruous results in New Hampshire then it starts to look like a fix.

    It came from “stop Trump” movement. Despite what you read here, it not inconsequential. It definitely is a “fix” but only in a sense that propaganda is efficient and generally achieves its goals. No one fixes elections on large scale in America. There is no need to. There are better, more efficient and legal ways. See: NYT and WaPo daily.

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    Gee, someone noticed the similarity.

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  144. @rod1963
    It's nice to see Jeb! sent to the corn field so to speak. Couldn't happen to a more loathsome and entitled weenie.

    Drudge is reporting he spent over $2800.00 per vote. This is pure Onion material. The most unlikeable man in politics.

    Rubio was the big surprise. Iowans must have a thing for open borders/amnesty hacks owned by billionaires. Then again they have a lot of sanctuary cities.

    As for Trump, I didn't expect him to win. Cruz has a big lock on the Evangelicals just like Huckabee and Santorum did. Reagan couldn't win it. Very weird state.

    We'll see who has a more diverse game by SC.

    As I’ve said before, I was dumbfounded, absolutely gob-smacked to discover that W wasn’t the intellectual runt of the Bush litter.

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  145. Annek says:
    @Emblematic
    Where the heck did Rubio's 23% come from? If there was election fraud is there a way to find out?

    If there are similar incongruous results in New Hampshire then it starts to look like a fix.

    “Where the heck did Rubio’s 23% come from? If there was election fraud is there a way to find out?”

    No kidding. Were there any polls prior to yesterday that showed Rubio with such strong numbers?

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    I believe the polls were showing Rubio getting increasing strength as the caucuses approached, but I can't recall one poll showing him getting 23% or close to it. In fact, I can't recall a poll showing him getting more than 20%, so the final result was a bit surprising.
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  146. notsaying says:
    @Anon
    Third Parties cannot win in American politics, but they can make a difference.

    More than the Florida recount, the 2000 election was decided by Ralph Nader. Had it not been for Nader, Gore would surely have won as all those Nader votes would have gone to Gore.

    And Teddy Roosevelt messed it up for Taft.

    Third Parties cannot but can play spoiler.

    Some say Perot spoiled it for Bush I, but I dunno. I think a good percentage of Perot votes could have gone to Clinton as well as to Bush.

    Because Third Parties cannot win but play spoiler, a right-wing third party would be effective posing as a left-wing third party. It will suck votes from th Liberal party and help the Conservative party win.

    A left third party hurts the mainstream left party, and right third party hurts the mainstream right party.
    Third party is almost always a boon to the mainstream of the other side.

    But there are exceptions. When the Third Party becomes so big, as in France with National Front, the mainstream right and mainstream left--along with far left--may all have to come together to hold it back.

    Anon,

    I see both parties as being in big trouble.

    Right now there’s more people who are Independents — around 40% — than are either Republicans or Democrats.

    Then there’s the people like me who are more than ready to leave one of the big two parties for a new party that actually represents me, my concerns and my interests.

    I think we could see the history of new parties and third parties in the US change.

    Or to put it another way: How much long can the American people stick with the parties that have left them? How much longer will the American people put up with the baloney that both parties have been handing them for years?

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    The parties will adapt their rhetoric to survive. The GOP will ramp up bible beating, mindless anti Democratism (ie dismantling Obamacare without offering a better alternative) and neocon war mongering and the Dems will ramp up the pro gibs, anti white, anti male and anti freedom of association rhetoric. A third party might emerge but I can't see the main parties dying out.
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  147. Pepe says:

    Kinda OT, but the US Border Patrol Agent charged in a narco-related decapitation might be a Mexican citizen:

    BROWNSVILLE — Federal immigration authorities are treating Joel Luna, a Border Patrol Agent accused last month of capital murder and drug cartel ties in deep South Texas, as a potential foreign national subject to deportation, the Texas Tribune has learned.

    In an unusual move, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement has targeted the federal agent with a “detainer” — basically a civil arrest warrant filed against non-citizens — at the Cameron County jail. As a matter of law, ICE has no civil immigration enforcement authority to arrest or detain a US citizen.

    The detainer adds a surprising twist to a case that has already generated national headlines and focused attention on U.S. law enforcement corruption along the southern border.

    Luna, two of his brothers and two other South Texas men have been indicted on capital murder and other charges stemming from the murder and beheading of a Honduran national, whose body was found during spring break last year near South Padre Island. Investigators say the men had ties to the powerful Gulf Cartel.

    After Luna was arrested last year, the Cameron County sheriff’s office said investigators found more than a kilo of cocaine, $90,000 in cash, firearms and Luna’s Border Patrol badge in a safe at the home of his mother-in-law.

    Now a new wrinkle has emerged in this case: Luna has two birth certificates, one from Hidalgo County, Texas, the other from Reynosa, Mexico — right across the Rio Grande River.

    http://www.texastribune.org/2016/02/02/indicted-border-patrol-agents-nationality-question/

    Fun times in S. Texas!

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  148. AndrewR says:
    @Jim Don Bob
    Can we count on that?

    Here is another good thing about a Trump presidency: 25 percent of federal employees would quit under Trump presidency (http://www.politico.com/blogs/iowa-caucus-2016-live-updates/2016/02/federal-employees-quit-if-trump-president-218544)

    Bullshit. Most government workers wouldn’t piss on a burning child if it meant taking a three cent pay cut.

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  149. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Svigor

    Comment names are for attention whores.
     
    Disembodied anonymous commenters rely on the extra room to lie and deceive that full anonymity affords. That's their whole point in remaining wholly anonymous. I'd reply to anonymous commenters, if I gave a shit what they think. Actually, that's not true - nobody knows what they think. The next post could be a 180 reversal from the previous one, and no one would know. Anonymous commenters are too invested in the freedom to deceive to be taken seriously.

    Imagine if these cubicle sloths had threatened to do some work. Now that would be a threat.
     
    Yeah: "no, not the Briar Patch. Anything but the Briar Patch. No. Please."

    41 should have a talk with El Jebe about trampling out the vintage where the sour grapes are stored…
     
    Yeah he sounds like a bitter clinger.

    You reply to their comments all the time, so apparently you do give a shit. You just don’t use the reply function but blockquote comments instead.

    Few read your long-winded replies and screeds anyway, which mainly have to do with narcissistic exhibitionism and gainsaying other comments rather than anything interesting.

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  150. AndrewR says:
    @notsaying
    Anon,

    I see both parties as being in big trouble.

    Right now there's more people who are Independents -- around 40% -- than are either Republicans or Democrats.

    Then there's the people like me who are more than ready to leave one of the big two parties for a new party that actually represents me, my concerns and my interests.

    I think we could see the history of new parties and third parties in the US change.

    Or to put it another way: How much long can the American people stick with the parties that have left them? How much longer will the American people put up with the baloney that both parties have been handing them for years?

    The parties will adapt their rhetoric to survive. The GOP will ramp up bible beating, mindless anti Democratism (ie dismantling Obamacare without offering a better alternative) and neocon war mongering and the Dems will ramp up the pro gibs, anti white, anti male and anti freedom of association rhetoric. A third party might emerge but I can’t see the main parties dying out.

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    It is really quite amazing that the white male has no real alternative other than the Republican party controlled by the Jewish Neocon warmongers.
    , @notsaying
    You may be right but I have to say, I hope you are not.

    My interpretation of what you are saying is that the two parties will "adapt" to voter disgust by getting worse in different ways.

    I do not want things to go from bad to worse.

    They may though, I realize that. I just hope they don't.

    One thing I try to keep in mind that gives me hope for change is that young people in 2025, 2030, etc. just won't take the lame deals that we've accepted. Their situations will be much worse and their anger will be much greater.
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  151. Ed says:
    @rod1963
    Even Reagan couldn't pull a win off in Iowa. Those people are seriously screwy.

    Rubio did very well among city slickers and in university towns. Evidently the more educated prefer their politicians stupid and corrupt. Must be a IQ thing.

    The Jeebus set has problems as well. Their religion blinds them to the point they'll vote for some fraud like Cruz because because he has the right religious credentials not understanding he'll destroy their way of life if given the chance once in power.

    They thought GW Bush was one of them as well and he turned out to be a Muslim sympathizer, globalist and off-shorer that helped wreck our economy and flood the country with illegals.

    They aren't rational nor pragmatic.

    There is every possibility the Evangelicals will throw enough primaries to Cruz that we'll end up with a brokered convention where the insiders give the nomination to some oligarch like Jeb or Rubio.

    The story is that evangelical participation in American politics, essentially as shock troops for the Republicans, stemmed from a Jimmy Carter attempt to have the IRS crack down on “churches” that seemed to be assorted scams and businesses using religious cover to avoid taxes.

    Not all Christian fundamentalists agreed or agree with the decision to go into partisan politics. The smarter ones remain aloof. There are a few odd Christian fundamentalist Democrats, just like there are a few Mormon Democrats and Republican Jews.

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  152. Ed says:
    @tbraton
    I believe I heard Laura Ingraham state last night on FOX that Rubio will be the Republican nominee. I think the road is far too long and Rubio is not doing terribly well in subsequent state polls (including Rubio's home state of Florida) to be making such a prediction. But then Laura Ingraham does work for FOX. One other interesting thing I observed last night before I turned off the TV was that ace journalist Megyn Kelly, while trumpeting Cruz's victory in Iowa, did not once make any observation about the poor history of Iowa winners in the next primary in New Hampshire. Here are winners of the Iowa caucuses and the NH primary the past six contested elections going back to 1980:

    1980 GHW Bush Reagan
    1988 Dole GHW Bush
    1996 Dole Buchanan
    2000 GW Bush McCain
    2008 Huckabee McCain
    2012 Santorum Romney

    The history is so clear that it was a journalistic act of malpractice to not bring it up.

    tbraton is correct on the history of the Iowa caucus.

    Their rules makes them very vulnerable to manipulation, though historically this has been more of a problem for the Democrats. But for Republicans, the evangelical influence means that they are just not very predictive on what appeals to the rest of the Republican electorate.

    By your figures, four Iowa caucus winners did not win the nomination, though they came in second. Two candidates who were not incumbent Presidents (Dole in 1996 and GW Bush in 2000) did, despite losing New Hampshire. Every incumbent President has won the Iowa caucus, in both parties.

    New Hampshire has somewhat of a better record, with only two cases of winners who did not go on to win the nomination (again, Dole in 1996 and GW Bush in 2000, in both cases they won in Iowa).

    For the Democrats, the one case of a Iowa caucus winner not being nominated is when the incumbent Iowa Senator Tom Harkin won in 1992. New Hampshire winners Hart, Tsongas, and Hilary Clinton have failed to be nominated. But the two parties behave somewhat differently in presidential primaries. The Democrats have a tendency to just fall in line for whoever the media and party elites anoint as a winner after a few early contests, not just for the times they have an incumbent president run, but for Gore in 2000 and Kerry in 20004. But there is a somewhat contradictory tendency to nominate people who have played a very short or weak role on the national stage. This may both stem from having more of a history of machine politics.

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    One Word, and a date.
    Scrotorum 2012.
    , @tbraton
    Ed, from the sound of your message, I gather that you must be an Iowan. I didn't keep up with news last summer, but I didn't hear anything about the notorious "Ames Poll." Am I correct to assume that institution is now history?
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  153. @MSP
    Totally unrelated, but this seems like an iSteve kind of story. DC will pay kids not to commit crimes: http://wtop.com/dc/2016/02/dc-bill-would-pay-people-stipends-not-to-commit-crimes/

    Simply unfreaking believable…

    From the linked article:

    “Councilmember Kenyan McDuffie [black], a Democrat who wrote the legislation….argued that spending $9,000 a year in stipends “pales in comparison” to the cost of someone being victimized, along with the costs of incarcerating the offender.

    “I want to prevent violent crime — particularly gun violence — by addressing the root causes and creating opportunities for people, particularly those individuals who are at the highest risks of offending,” McDuffie, a former prosecutor, said in a letter to constituents last week.

    Democratic Mayor Muriel Bowser has not committed to funding the program, which would cost $4.9 million over four years, including $460,000 a year in stipend payments…”

    How is it that perpetrators of violent crime are repackaged as “individuals who are at the highest risk…”? They are no longer nouns (criminal) that do verbs (murder, rape) but indirect objects towards whom something is being done and who therefore stand in risk of being victimized???

    Let’s see, $460,000 in stipends x 4 years = $1,840,000. $4,900,000 – $1,840,000 = $3,100,000. So, 1.84/4.90=38% of the money allocated will actually end up in the hands of those downtrodden at-risk murderers while 62% will go towards administering the program, no doubt providing Affirmative Action jobs for McDuffie’s peers. Hey, it’s a win/win!!!

    And finally, this program doesn’t so much seem to be a system of reward/punishment as it is a form of blackmail. “Hand over the loot or we’ll rob and murder you.” I believe the Vikings used much the same tactic while ravaging the English coast and the English King used much the same reasoning as does McDuffie, arguing thus: “It’s cheaper just to buy them off (with Danegeld) than to pay for the effects of their marauding”. And the English King responsible for this craven cowardice has been immortalized in history with the sobriquet “Aethelred the Unready”.

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    “I want to prevent violent crime — particularly gun violence — by addressing the root causes..."
     
    The root causes are that Democrats like Kenyan (not to be confused with Kenyon!) deliberately wrecked the black family in America by enticing unwed teenage mothers with free money and living spaces. This was one of the most evil and cynical policies in the history of the English-speaking world, if not the entire world.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    The philosopher Winston Moseley explained that the perpetrator of a murder is the real victim, because he suffers the consequences for the rest of his life. As he put it, "For a victim outside, it's a one-time or one-hour or one-minute affair, but for the person who's caught, it's forever."

    This seems to be the thinking of many liberals as well. BTW, Moseley was the killer of Kitty Genovese.
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  154. @Anonymous
    I asked if Dan Quayle fundraisers should be giving Trump advice at a critical time. If you think that's insulting, you're too hysterical and emotional for politics.

    I asked if Dan Quayle fundraisers should be giving Trump advice at a critical time.

    “Dan Quayle Was Right” –Willem’s wiser sister, in The Atlantic

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  155. tbraton says:
    @Annek
    "Where the heck did Rubio’s 23% come from? If there was election fraud is there a way to find out?"

    No kidding. Were there any polls prior to yesterday that showed Rubio with such strong numbers?

    I believe the polls were showing Rubio getting increasing strength as the caucuses approached, but I can’t recall one poll showing him getting 23% or close to it. In fact, I can’t recall a poll showing him getting more than 20%, so the final result was a bit surprising.

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  156. @Threecranes
    Simply unfreaking believable…

    From the linked article:

    "Councilmember Kenyan McDuffie [black], a Democrat who wrote the legislation….argued that spending $9,000 a year in stipends “pales in comparison” to the cost of someone being victimized, along with the costs of incarcerating the offender.

    “I want to prevent violent crime — particularly gun violence — by addressing the root causes and creating opportunities for people, particularly those individuals who are at the highest risks of offending,” McDuffie, a former prosecutor, said in a letter to constituents last week.

    Democratic Mayor Muriel Bowser has not committed to funding the program, which would cost $4.9 million over four years, including $460,000 a year in stipend payments…"

    How is it that perpetrators of violent crime are repackaged as "individuals who are at the highest risk…"? They are no longer nouns (criminal) that do verbs (murder, rape) but indirect objects towards whom something is being done and who therefore stand in risk of being victimized???

    Let's see, $460,000 in stipends x 4 years = $1,840,000. $4,900,000 - $1,840,000 = $3,100,000. So, 1.84/4.90=38% of the money allocated will actually end up in the hands of those downtrodden at-risk murderers while 62% will go towards administering the program, no doubt providing Affirmative Action jobs for McDuffie's peers. Hey, it's a win/win!!!

    And finally, this program doesn't so much seem to be a system of reward/punishment as it is a form of blackmail. "Hand over the loot or we'll rob and murder you." I believe the Vikings used much the same tactic while ravaging the English coast and the English King used much the same reasoning as does McDuffie, arguing thus: "It's cheaper just to buy them off (with Danegeld) than to pay for the effects of their marauding". And the English King responsible for this craven cowardice has been immortalized in history with the sobriquet "Aethelred the Unready".

    “I want to prevent violent crime — particularly gun violence — by addressing the root causes…”

    The root causes are that Democrats like Kenyan (not to be confused with Kenyon!) deliberately wrecked the black family in America by enticing unwed teenage mothers with free money and living spaces. This was one of the most evil and cynical policies in the history of the English-speaking world, if not the entire world.

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    Right. And Charles Murray documented the depredations of the Great Society here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CW0PVVO/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?ie=UTF8&btkr=1_

    One of the most depressing books a lover of the USA will ever read. And, it is -50- years old.

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  157. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Svigor

    Comment names are for attention whores.
     
    Disembodied anonymous commenters rely on the extra room to lie and deceive that full anonymity affords. That's their whole point in remaining wholly anonymous. I'd reply to anonymous commenters, if I gave a shit what they think. Actually, that's not true - nobody knows what they think. The next post could be a 180 reversal from the previous one, and no one would know. Anonymous commenters are too invested in the freedom to deceive to be taken seriously.

    Imagine if these cubicle sloths had threatened to do some work. Now that would be a threat.
     
    Yeah: "no, not the Briar Patch. Anything but the Briar Patch. No. Please."

    41 should have a talk with El Jebe about trampling out the vintage where the sour grapes are stored…
     
    Yeah he sounds like a bitter clinger.

    Anonymous commenters are too invested in the freedom to deceive to be taken seriously.

    I resent your comment. Majority of us are well-meaning citizens merely expressing their opinions on the blog. The real trouble is, with unz.com’s permanent archive of all posts sorted by a poster, there is too high a chance of being screwed by some SJW.

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    Then just pick a meaningless name like mine, don't copy anyone else, and stick with it.
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  158. Dew says:
    @trumped
    Thanks to trump for destroying Jeb.

    Jeb’s! campaign isn’t just a failure. There have been plenty of underperforming campaigns over the years. No, it’s a spectacular, epic failure. I would almost feel so for him if wasn’t for the fact that he and his fellow neocons weren’t so aggressively obnoxious. He is to the left of every issue, even when compared to Dubya. Dubya at least tried to act as a conservative Texan when elections came. Jeb! literally identifies as Hispanic, openly embraces more immigration, and has all the typical neocon traits that make him so unattractive to sensible voters.

    Jeb! desperately wants to be taken seriously as a presidential nominee but I simply cannot. The moment his campaign started to pander to Hispanics I had lost all respect. I don’t care what anyone says, Heartiste is right. Jeb! should never show off his wife (or his daughter) ever. Shallow? Yes, but still right. As for Jeb! himself well he is about as interesting as a tomato fruit roll-up and has the charisma of a slug. Mitt Romney at least looked a bit like leadership material in a businessman sort of way. Jeb! has nothing going for him.

    Even his merchandise is laughable. Trying to sell people a guacamole bowl that doesn’t even have campaign branding for $75 is just stupid. Anyone who buys that couldn’t even show off how much of a sad loser they are for investing in Jeb! since no one can even tell it apart from a regular one. The pun is also horrendous: “Guacca Bowle”. 0/10 buddy. Don’t even get me started on the shirts.

    I know firsthand that there is little particularly conservative about Hispanics in things that actually matter politically. Trying to outreach Hispanics as a Republican doesn’t do much. Even Rubio isn’t getting that much Latino support. The “Great Hispanic Tidal Wave” isn’t going to be stopped by such pitiful methods. You need a wall or at least a well-guarded border fence Israel-style. Deport the activists too. All the money the establishment threw at him and Jeb! still cant make it. He’s an example of fractal badness. Trump mainly highlighted all the failures of the Jeb! campaign. Even if Trump wasn’t around to destroy him, Jeb! would still be a massive failure.

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    Some might say the Bush clan has had many puppets, even while the Bush name has not enjoyed popular support.

    Maybe one of their surrogates won in '68, and won a landslide in '72.

    Rubio might go far washing the feet of #TeamBush.
    , @Lurker

    He’s an example of fractal badness
     
    Fractal badness - awesome! Great concept.

    (I did misread it as fractal baldness first time, which was perplexing)
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  159. @Kevin O'Keeffe
    "Cruz has a big lock on the Evangelicals just like Huckabee and Santorum did. Reagan couldn’t win it. Very weird state."

    Keep in mind that Reagan lost the 1980 Iowa caucuses to George H.W. Bush (rather than some Religious Right favorite; he also lost the 1976 Iowa caucuses to Gerald Ford), so something changed in the Iowa GOP during the 1980s, because by 1988, Pat Robertson had pushed Bush down to 3rd place in Iowa (with both of them running behind Bob Dole).

    … something changed in the Iowa GOP during the 1980s, because by 1988, Pat Robertson had pushed Bush down to 3rd place in Iowa (with both of them running behind Bob Dole).

    Robertson was as new a phenomenon in 1988 as is Trump this year, and about as well-known. Like Trump, he pulled in people who had never caucused before. And they were organized in congregations and Bible-study groups, unlike Trump’s unorganized supporters. So no surprise, no revolution here.

    But many made caucusgoing a habit, so the effect was long-term.

    Also, the winner, Dole, was from a nearby, similar state. And by 1988, the Democrats were well on the way to the deep end where they float today. Serious churchgoers were done with them.

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  160. Hibernian says:
    @Lagertha
    don't be sad...with Trump, there is always a long game. He is crafty. Also, Iowa, jeezus,
    those poor losers just voted in Cruz whose gonna strip them of the money from ethanol...those dumb asses don't even know how much of a mistake they made for the future of their children/their lands. Maybe a new Las Vegas (but no, there is only enough money for the real LV) in the midst of those pretty plains. I admired Iowa when I spent time there a few years ago - now, they dug their own grave.

    Ethanol requires a lot of energy to process and is bad for car engines. It’s an industry dependent on corporate welfare, and not all Iowans are farmers.

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  161. @AndrewR
    The parties will adapt their rhetoric to survive. The GOP will ramp up bible beating, mindless anti Democratism (ie dismantling Obamacare without offering a better alternative) and neocon war mongering and the Dems will ramp up the pro gibs, anti white, anti male and anti freedom of association rhetoric. A third party might emerge but I can't see the main parties dying out.

    It is really quite amazing that the white male has no real alternative other than the Republican party controlled by the Jewish Neocon warmongers.

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    Bull hockey.


    They had Ron Paul. And if white guys were collectively a more savvy political group (minus those white guys who do quite well by the current dispensation) we would have better candidates.


    This letting poor white guys off the hook is getting tiresome. It's no different than the excuse-making blacks do for absentee black dads. White guys love d-bags like Dubya to their collective detriment.
    , @notsaying
    Bill Jones,

    There's a lot of other people in the country who don't really have any good alternatives, either.

    The two parties have let an overwhelming majority of us down, sometimes in the same way, sometimes in different ways.

    I am also disturbed by what Rubio and other Republicans have said about "rebuilding" our military, American exceptionalism, etc., etc. It is clear that ISIS is their excuse to continue the endless state of war and trillion dollar defense budgets, much of which is spent on behalf our of Asian and European allies.

    When are they going to take care of themselves at all? Never, as long as we continue to make it a point of pride that we will spend our money taking care of them.
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  162. @tbraton
    I believe I heard Laura Ingraham state last night on FOX that Rubio will be the Republican nominee. I think the road is far too long and Rubio is not doing terribly well in subsequent state polls (including Rubio's home state of Florida) to be making such a prediction. But then Laura Ingraham does work for FOX. One other interesting thing I observed last night before I turned off the TV was that ace journalist Megyn Kelly, while trumpeting Cruz's victory in Iowa, did not once make any observation about the poor history of Iowa winners in the next primary in New Hampshire. Here are winners of the Iowa caucuses and the NH primary the past six contested elections going back to 1980:

    1980 GHW Bush Reagan
    1988 Dole GHW Bush
    1996 Dole Buchanan
    2000 GW Bush McCain
    2008 Huckabee McCain
    2012 Santorum Romney

    The history is so clear that it was a journalistic act of malpractice to not bring it up.

    Megyn Kelly is as useless as the ‘ay’ in okay.

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  163. @Ed
    tbraton is correct on the history of the Iowa caucus.

    Their rules makes them very vulnerable to manipulation, though historically this has been more of a problem for the Democrats. But for Republicans, the evangelical influence means that they are just not very predictive on what appeals to the rest of the Republican electorate.

    By your figures, four Iowa caucus winners did not win the nomination, though they came in second. Two candidates who were not incumbent Presidents (Dole in 1996 and GW Bush in 2000) did, despite losing New Hampshire. Every incumbent President has won the Iowa caucus, in both parties.

    New Hampshire has somewhat of a better record, with only two cases of winners who did not go on to win the nomination (again, Dole in 1996 and GW Bush in 2000, in both cases they won in Iowa).

    For the Democrats, the one case of a Iowa caucus winner not being nominated is when the incumbent Iowa Senator Tom Harkin won in 1992. New Hampshire winners Hart, Tsongas, and Hilary Clinton have failed to be nominated. But the two parties behave somewhat differently in presidential primaries. The Democrats have a tendency to just fall in line for whoever the media and party elites anoint as a winner after a few early contests, not just for the times they have an incumbent president run, but for Gore in 2000 and Kerry in 20004. But there is a somewhat contradictory tendency to nominate people who have played a very short or weak role on the national stage. This may both stem from having more of a history of machine politics.

    One Word, and a date.
    Scrotorum 2012.

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  164. @anowow
    What about the Rubio voters?

    Rubio is the Dubya of our times. Same bromides.

    Jeb is losing because he is a nerd, not necessarily because he is a Bush.


    And on the Demo side, HRC is doing far better than she deserves.

    Never underestimate the clouded memory and perception, self-interested greed, self-righteousness, smug jingoism, myopic hubris and militarism masking the cowardice of many of our countrymen and women.

    The fact that as flawed a candidate as Trump is all we got says volumes about Americans. Our leaders are manifestations of our populace.

    Good grief! Couldn’t you leave me to enjoy my momentary euphoria!

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  165. @Reg Cæsar

    “I want to prevent violent crime — particularly gun violence — by addressing the root causes..."
     
    The root causes are that Democrats like Kenyan (not to be confused with Kenyon!) deliberately wrecked the black family in America by enticing unwed teenage mothers with free money and living spaces. This was one of the most evil and cynical policies in the history of the English-speaking world, if not the entire world.

    Right. And Charles Murray documented the depredations of the Great Society here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CW0PVVO/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?ie=UTF8&btkr=1_

    One of the most depressing books a lover of the USA will ever read. And, it is -50- years old.

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  166. @Anonymous
    Trump could've won Iowa but he spent half of January taking the wind out of his own sails by talking about how he "can work with Pelosi and Reid" to get things done in Washington.

    WHAT AN ASSHOLE.

    Notice how Democrats never make claims during a campaign about how they can work with the opposition.

    Trump should've been talking about how he would kick the butts of the disgusting Democrats. Not "do deals" with them.

    WHAT A TOTAL ASSHOLE. If he continues down that road say goodbye to easy victory.

    No. Trump is refusing to fall into the “divide and conquer” trap.

    Marginally employed democratic voters have the same interest in preventing immigration waves as the republican middle class.

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  167. tbraton says:
    @Ed
    tbraton is correct on the history of the Iowa caucus.

    Their rules makes them very vulnerable to manipulation, though historically this has been more of a problem for the Democrats. But for Republicans, the evangelical influence means that they are just not very predictive on what appeals to the rest of the Republican electorate.

    By your figures, four Iowa caucus winners did not win the nomination, though they came in second. Two candidates who were not incumbent Presidents (Dole in 1996 and GW Bush in 2000) did, despite losing New Hampshire. Every incumbent President has won the Iowa caucus, in both parties.

    New Hampshire has somewhat of a better record, with only two cases of winners who did not go on to win the nomination (again, Dole in 1996 and GW Bush in 2000, in both cases they won in Iowa).

    For the Democrats, the one case of a Iowa caucus winner not being nominated is when the incumbent Iowa Senator Tom Harkin won in 1992. New Hampshire winners Hart, Tsongas, and Hilary Clinton have failed to be nominated. But the two parties behave somewhat differently in presidential primaries. The Democrats have a tendency to just fall in line for whoever the media and party elites anoint as a winner after a few early contests, not just for the times they have an incumbent president run, but for Gore in 2000 and Kerry in 20004. But there is a somewhat contradictory tendency to nominate people who have played a very short or weak role on the national stage. This may both stem from having more of a history of machine politics.

    Ed, from the sound of your message, I gather that you must be an Iowan. I didn’t keep up with news last summer, but I didn’t hear anything about the notorious “Ames Poll.” Am I correct to assume that institution is now history?

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  168. @Anonymous
    Trump could've won Iowa but he spent half of January taking the wind out of his own sails by talking about how he "can work with Pelosi and Reid" to get things done in Washington.

    WHAT AN ASSHOLE.

    Notice how Democrats never make claims during a campaign about how they can work with the opposition.

    Trump should've been talking about how he would kick the butts of the disgusting Democrats. Not "do deals" with them.

    WHAT A TOTAL ASSHOLE. If he continues down that road say goodbye to easy victory.

    Trump could’ve won Iowa but he spent half of January taking the wind out of his own sails by talking about how he “can work with Pelosi and Reid” to get things done in Washington.

    Why would he have to work with P&R, if they’re in the minority? Does he expect to win the election, but see his party lose it?

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  169. @Threecranes
    Simply unfreaking believable…

    From the linked article:

    "Councilmember Kenyan McDuffie [black], a Democrat who wrote the legislation….argued that spending $9,000 a year in stipends “pales in comparison” to the cost of someone being victimized, along with the costs of incarcerating the offender.

    “I want to prevent violent crime — particularly gun violence — by addressing the root causes and creating opportunities for people, particularly those individuals who are at the highest risks of offending,” McDuffie, a former prosecutor, said in a letter to constituents last week.

    Democratic Mayor Muriel Bowser has not committed to funding the program, which would cost $4.9 million over four years, including $460,000 a year in stipend payments…"

    How is it that perpetrators of violent crime are repackaged as "individuals who are at the highest risk…"? They are no longer nouns (criminal) that do verbs (murder, rape) but indirect objects towards whom something is being done and who therefore stand in risk of being victimized???

    Let's see, $460,000 in stipends x 4 years = $1,840,000. $4,900,000 - $1,840,000 = $3,100,000. So, 1.84/4.90=38% of the money allocated will actually end up in the hands of those downtrodden at-risk murderers while 62% will go towards administering the program, no doubt providing Affirmative Action jobs for McDuffie's peers. Hey, it's a win/win!!!

    And finally, this program doesn't so much seem to be a system of reward/punishment as it is a form of blackmail. "Hand over the loot or we'll rob and murder you." I believe the Vikings used much the same tactic while ravaging the English coast and the English King used much the same reasoning as does McDuffie, arguing thus: "It's cheaper just to buy them off (with Danegeld) than to pay for the effects of their marauding". And the English King responsible for this craven cowardice has been immortalized in history with the sobriquet "Aethelred the Unready".

    The philosopher Winston Moseley explained that the perpetrator of a murder is the real victim, because he suffers the consequences for the rest of his life. As he put it, “For a victim outside, it’s a one-time or one-hour or one-minute affair, but for the person who’s caught, it’s forever.”

    This seems to be the thinking of many liberals as well. BTW, Moseley was the killer of Kitty Genovese.

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  170. anowow says:
    @Bill Jones
    It is really quite amazing that the white male has no real alternative other than the Republican party controlled by the Jewish Neocon warmongers.

    Bull hockey.

    They had Ron Paul. And if white guys were collectively a more savvy political group (minus those white guys who do quite well by the current dispensation) we would have better candidates.

    This letting poor white guys off the hook is getting tiresome. It’s no different than the excuse-making blacks do for absentee black dads. White guys love d-bags like Dubya to their collective detriment.

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    What is the alternative to the Republican Party?- which is, despite the great Ron Paul controlled by Jewish Neocon War mongers. Ron couldn't find an alternative, could he?
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  171. @trumped
    Thanks to trump for destroying Jeb.

    It’s not over for the Bush clan. Their surrogate Rubio presses on!

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  172. @Dew
    Jeb's! campaign isn't just a failure. There have been plenty of underperforming campaigns over the years. No, it's a spectacular, epic failure. I would almost feel so for him if wasn't for the fact that he and his fellow neocons weren't so aggressively obnoxious. He is to the left of every issue, even when compared to Dubya. Dubya at least tried to act as a conservative Texan when elections came. Jeb! literally identifies as Hispanic, openly embraces more immigration, and has all the typical neocon traits that make him so unattractive to sensible voters.

    Jeb! desperately wants to be taken seriously as a presidential nominee but I simply cannot. The moment his campaign started to pander to Hispanics I had lost all respect. I don't care what anyone says, Heartiste is right. Jeb! should never show off his wife (or his daughter) ever. Shallow? Yes, but still right. As for Jeb! himself well he is about as interesting as a tomato fruit roll-up and has the charisma of a slug. Mitt Romney at least looked a bit like leadership material in a businessman sort of way. Jeb! has nothing going for him.

    Even his merchandise is laughable. Trying to sell people a guacamole bowl that doesn't even have campaign branding for $75 is just stupid. Anyone who buys that couldn't even show off how much of a sad loser they are for investing in Jeb! since no one can even tell it apart from a regular one. The pun is also horrendous: "Guacca Bowle". 0/10 buddy. Don't even get me started on the shirts.

    I know firsthand that there is little particularly conservative about Hispanics in things that actually matter politically. Trying to outreach Hispanics as a Republican doesn't do much. Even Rubio isn't getting that much Latino support. The "Great Hispanic Tidal Wave" isn't going to be stopped by such pitiful methods. You need a wall or at least a well-guarded border fence Israel-style. Deport the activists too. All the money the establishment threw at him and Jeb! still cant make it. He's an example of fractal badness. Trump mainly highlighted all the failures of the Jeb! campaign. Even if Trump wasn't around to destroy him, Jeb! would still be a massive failure.

    Some might say the Bush clan has had many puppets, even while the Bush name has not enjoyed popular support.

    Maybe one of their surrogates won in ’68, and won a landslide in ’72.

    Rubio might go far washing the feet of #TeamBush.

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  173. @anowow
    Bull hockey.


    They had Ron Paul. And if white guys were collectively a more savvy political group (minus those white guys who do quite well by the current dispensation) we would have better candidates.


    This letting poor white guys off the hook is getting tiresome. It's no different than the excuse-making blacks do for absentee black dads. White guys love d-bags like Dubya to their collective detriment.

    What is the alternative to the Republican Party?- which is, despite the great Ron Paul controlled by Jewish Neocon War mongers. Ron couldn’t find an alternative, could he?

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  174. @MSP
    Totally unrelated, but this seems like an iSteve kind of story. DC will pay kids not to commit crimes: http://wtop.com/dc/2016/02/dc-bill-would-pay-people-stipends-not-to-commit-crimes/

    Sample Interview

    Social Worker: “So, d’Jon, did you do no crimes dis monf?”
    d’Jon: “truth”.
    Social Worker: “Ok, here be a Benjamin”.

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  175. notsaying says:
    @AndrewR
    The parties will adapt their rhetoric to survive. The GOP will ramp up bible beating, mindless anti Democratism (ie dismantling Obamacare without offering a better alternative) and neocon war mongering and the Dems will ramp up the pro gibs, anti white, anti male and anti freedom of association rhetoric. A third party might emerge but I can't see the main parties dying out.

    You may be right but I have to say, I hope you are not.

    My interpretation of what you are saying is that the two parties will “adapt” to voter disgust by getting worse in different ways.

    I do not want things to go from bad to worse.

    They may though, I realize that. I just hope they don’t.

    One thing I try to keep in mind that gives me hope for change is that young people in 2025, 2030, etc. just won’t take the lame deals that we’ve accepted. Their situations will be much worse and their anger will be much greater.

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  176. notsaying says:
    @Bill Jones
    It is really quite amazing that the white male has no real alternative other than the Republican party controlled by the Jewish Neocon warmongers.

    Bill Jones,

    There’s a lot of other people in the country who don’t really have any good alternatives, either.

    The two parties have let an overwhelming majority of us down, sometimes in the same way, sometimes in different ways.

    I am also disturbed by what Rubio and other Republicans have said about “rebuilding” our military, American exceptionalism, etc., etc. It is clear that ISIS is their excuse to continue the endless state of war and trillion dollar defense budgets, much of which is spent on behalf our of Asian and European allies.

    When are they going to take care of themselves at all? Never, as long as we continue to make it a point of pride that we will spend our money taking care of them.

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  177. Brutusale says:
    @jimmyriddle
    The ER won't be much use if you need dialysis or chemo. They might give you opiates whilst you die of an easily treated condition.

    The US is the only semi-First World country where that happens.

    I don’t know where you live, but in Massachusetts the “indigent” get the million-dollar workup when they arrive at the ER, including aftercare.

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  178. Lurker says:
    @Dew
    Jeb's! campaign isn't just a failure. There have been plenty of underperforming campaigns over the years. No, it's a spectacular, epic failure. I would almost feel so for him if wasn't for the fact that he and his fellow neocons weren't so aggressively obnoxious. He is to the left of every issue, even when compared to Dubya. Dubya at least tried to act as a conservative Texan when elections came. Jeb! literally identifies as Hispanic, openly embraces more immigration, and has all the typical neocon traits that make him so unattractive to sensible voters.

    Jeb! desperately wants to be taken seriously as a presidential nominee but I simply cannot. The moment his campaign started to pander to Hispanics I had lost all respect. I don't care what anyone says, Heartiste is right. Jeb! should never show off his wife (or his daughter) ever. Shallow? Yes, but still right. As for Jeb! himself well he is about as interesting as a tomato fruit roll-up and has the charisma of a slug. Mitt Romney at least looked a bit like leadership material in a businessman sort of way. Jeb! has nothing going for him.

    Even his merchandise is laughable. Trying to sell people a guacamole bowl that doesn't even have campaign branding for $75 is just stupid. Anyone who buys that couldn't even show off how much of a sad loser they are for investing in Jeb! since no one can even tell it apart from a regular one. The pun is also horrendous: "Guacca Bowle". 0/10 buddy. Don't even get me started on the shirts.

    I know firsthand that there is little particularly conservative about Hispanics in things that actually matter politically. Trying to outreach Hispanics as a Republican doesn't do much. Even Rubio isn't getting that much Latino support. The "Great Hispanic Tidal Wave" isn't going to be stopped by such pitiful methods. You need a wall or at least a well-guarded border fence Israel-style. Deport the activists too. All the money the establishment threw at him and Jeb! still cant make it. He's an example of fractal badness. Trump mainly highlighted all the failures of the Jeb! campaign. Even if Trump wasn't around to destroy him, Jeb! would still be a massive failure.

    He’s an example of fractal badness

    Fractal badness – awesome! Great concept.

    (I did misread it as fractal baldness first time, which was perplexing)

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  179. Lurker says:
    @Anonymous

    Anonymous commenters are too invested in the freedom to deceive to be taken seriously.
     
    I resent your comment. Majority of us are well-meaning citizens merely expressing their opinions on the blog. The real trouble is, with unz.com's permanent archive of all posts sorted by a poster, there is too high a chance of being screwed by some SJW.

    Then just pick a meaningless name like mine, don’t copy anyone else, and stick with it.

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  180. Twinkie says:
    @iffen
    The Ogre has landed at Des Moines.

    The Ogre has landed at Des Moines.

    In just a few days and “Long live the President!” eh?

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  181. iffen says:

    First the Tiger has to arrive in Concord.

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  182. Lagertha says:
    @Anonymous
    I asked if Dan Quayle fundraisers should be giving Trump advice at a critical time. If you think that's insulting, you're too hysterical and emotional for politics.

    Saw this late: You are correct that I may be too hysterical and emotional, but I am not professionally involved with politics, btw – I am a housewife, this I say, completely honestly. The problem with internet conversation is that there is no way one can be funny, snarky, or truthful without anyone or everyone reading between the lines and misunderstanding the humor, candor, whatever the poster meant. Capisce? Steve knows I don’t like to fight or upset/insult people. And, I am emotional, and “high-strung,” as the old term goes.

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