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https://youtu.be/zBXoItXHLTM?t=47m28s

With Jeb Bush and Donald Trump arguing over whether George W. Bush failed to stop 9/11, it’s worth going to the videotape (47:28) of the second Presidential debate of 2000. On 10/11/2000, the Texas governor denounced heightened scrutiny of Arab airline passengers by airport security. Bush said on national TV:

Secondly, there is other forms of racial profiling that goes on in America. Arab-Americans are racially profiled in what is called secret evidence. People are stopped, and we have to do something about that. My friend, Senator Spencer Abraham of Michigan, is pushing a law to make sure that Arab-Americans are treated with respect. So racial profiling isn’t just an issue at local police forces. It’s an issue throughout our society. And as we become a diverse society, we’re going to have to deal with it more and more. I believe, though — I believe, as sure as I’m sitting here, that most Americans really care. They’re tolerant people. They’re good, tolerant people. It’s the very few that create most of the crises, and we just have to find them and deal with them.

Note that when the future President said “we just have to find them and deal with them,” the “them” he was referring to as having to be dealt with were not Arab skyjackers but airline and airport employees worried about stopping Arab skyjackers.

In accordance with this statement, Bush appointed Democrat Norman Mineta Secretary of Transportation and directed him to root out profiling of Arabs at the airport.

In 2005, airport counter clerk Michael Tuohey told Oprah Winfrey of his encounter early on 9/11/2001 with the leader of the terrorists:

“I got an instant chill when I looked at [Atta]. I got this grip in my stomach and then, of course, I gave myself a political correct slap…I thought, ‘My God, Michael, these are just a couple of Arab businessmen.'”

By the way, on a personal note, this may have been when I started to realize I was the world’s least viral journalist. I’m not sure if the word “viral” had that meaning on 9/11/2001, but if it did, I was sure that the President’s 11-month-old denunciation of anti-terrorism efforts would soon go viral. I vividly recalled watching Bush say this to a huge television audience less than a year before. Back then you couldn’t post video, but it was easy to find a transcript. So I stayed up late that night writing up “Bush had called for laxer airport security” so I wouldn’t get scooped too badly by all the other pundits.

In all the rush, it didn’t get published for about a week. Yet by then, nobody else had brought it up. When my piece didn’t get any attention, well, lots of stuff was happening.

Every few years since then, I’ve brought up Bush’s statement, but it never seems to register on anybody other than my core readers. It’s an interesting example of the Sapir-Whorf effect in action. We are given categories to file facts away in: e.g., Republicans Are Racist; Bush Protected Us from Terrorism, etc. It’s very hard to remember anything that doesn’t fit in the right slots.

This is the first time I’ve posted video of Bush saying this. We’ll see if this makes any difference in the impact, although by now, after 14 years, I doubt it.

Similarly, the big Bush Push of 2002-2004 to ease traditional credit standards, such as down payments and documentation, that have disparate impact on black and Hispanic mortgage-seekers is practically impossible for most people to remember because it doesn’t fit in the categories: Republicans Are Racist; Bush Protected Us from Liberalism, etc.

Here’s a video of Bush telling his federal regulators that down payment requirements are keeping minorities from achieving the American Dream:

But I’ve posted this before with negligible impact.

 
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  1. After 9/11 the government kept up its race-blind policy; it just changed directions. So instead of treating no one like a potential terrorist they treat everyone like a potential terrorist. As a very non-Arab, non-Muslim American of overwhelmingly European descent, I dread returning to the US due to the double digit IQ, completely unaccountable bullies that pass for border agents.

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    The TSA is not the Border Patrol. If you're going to spout off about IQ at least get the basics right.
  2. So…a Bush calls for less security on a certain group and that group takes advantage. Sounds like actionable intelligence to not let a Bush into public life.

  3. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    This is what passed for ‘conservative’ in our political culture. Bush the wrecker destroyed everything he touched. There’s also this conflating of Arab-American with just any Arab passing through. The former might be just an ordinary citizen going through customs but Atta was not a citizen and certainly no American. There’s a difference.

  4. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Hijackers got state IDs legally

    Florida and federal officials are reviewing policy after the terrorists traveled on state identification.

    By STEVE BOUSQUET and ALISA ULFERTS

    © St. Petersburg Times,
    published September 16, 2001

    Thirteen of the 19 hijackers were issued Florida identification, either driver’s licenses or identification cards issued by the state. Of the 13, eight obtained state licenses or identification cards since May 1.

    We are reviewing everything,” Gov. Jeb Bush said Saturday.

    http://www.sptimes.com/News/091601/State/Hijackers_got_state_I.shtml

    • Replies: @Big Bill
    Oddly enough, the MSM didn't report the incident as "Thirteen Florida Men Blow Up World Trade Center".
  5. Bush made his speech at least five years after the first World Trade Center bombing by Mad Mullah Omar of New Jersey and his crew.

    Bush made his harangue when jihadis were already convening airport conventions across the USA (as Steve Emerson reported).

    Bush made his warm-n-cuddly speech five years after Emerson released his award-winning documentary, “Terrorists Among Us: Jihad in America”:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorists_Among_Us:_Jihad_in_America

  6. It is interesting, nevertheless.

  7. Excerpts from an article written by Andrew Kaczynski, published by Buzzfeed.

    In 2000, 19 months before Sept. 11, 2001, Donald Trump wrote extensively of the terrorism threat the United States was facing.

    Trump, who at the time was considering a presidential bid on the Reform Party ticket, went so far as to say that an attack on a major U.S. city was not just a probability, but an inevitability.

    “I really am convinced we’re in danger of the sort of terrorist attacks that will make the bombing of the Trade Center look like kids playing with firecrackers,” wrote Trump in his 2000 book, The America We Deserve. “No sensible analyst rejects this possibility, and plenty of them, like me, are not wondering if but when it will happen.”

    Trump even mentions Osama bin Laden by name, in a criticism of an American foreign policy that too quickly jumps from one crisis to the next.

    “One day we’re told that a shadowy figure with no fixed address named Osama bin-Laden is public enemy number one, and U.S. jetfighters lay waste to his camp in Afghanistan,” The Donald wrote. “He escapes back under some rock, and a few news cycles later it’s on to a new enemy and new crisis.”

    ….

    “We can kid ourselves all we want by mocking their references to the Great Satan, but also keep in mind that there is no greater destiny for many people than to deal the Great Satan a major kick in the teeth,” he wrote, adding they despised the U.S. support for Israel.

    “Our teenage boys fantasize about Cindy Crawford; young terrorists fantasize about turning an American city (and themselves) into charcoal,” Trump wrote.

    Trump predicted a major attack on an American city that would involved weapons of mass destruction, writing, “Yet it’s time to get down to the hard business of preparing for what I believe is the real possibility that somewhere, sometime, a weapon of mass destruction will be carried into a major American city and detonated.”

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/over-a-year-before-911-trump-wrote-of-terror-threat-with-rem#.bezl8Dmqz

    • Replies: @tbraton
    I pointed out a few days ago that Bush's National Security Adviser Condoleeza Rice received a warning more than a month before 9/11 from the CIA (personally from George Tenet, as I recall) of impending terrorist attacks "possibly involving airplanes." That brainless, incompetent woman dismissed the warnings as "vague" because they didn't give her specific flight numbers.

    BTW the 9/11 Commission Report, overseen by Philip Zelikow, states (at p. 359 of my version) that "In the summer of 2001, DCI Tenet, the Counterterrorist Center, and the Counterrorism Security Group did their utmost to sound a loud alarm, its basis being intelligence indicating that al Qaeda planned something big." Curiously omitted from the Commission Report was the specific reference to Rice from Tenet and the warning "possibly involving airplanes."

    Years later, we got this report from NBC News:

    "On the 11th anniversary of the worst terrorist attack on U.S. soil, there is mounting evidence that the Bush administration received more intelligence warnings than previously known prior to the Sept. 11 attacks that killed nearly 3,000.

    Kurt Eichenwald, a former New York Times reporter, wrote in an op-ed piece in Tuesday’s newspaper about a number of previously unknown warnings relayed to the White House by U.S. intelligence in the weeks and months prior to the attacks. Eichenwald wrote of the warnings in his new book, “500 Days: Secrets and Lies in the Terror Wars.”

    And former US intelligence officials say there were even more warnings, pointing to a little noticed section of George Tenet’s memoir, “At the Center of the Storm.”

    In it, Tenet describes a July 10, 2001, meeting at the White House in the office of Condoleezza Rice, then President George W. Bush’s national security adviser. The meeting was not discussed in the 9-11 Commission’s final report on the attacks, although Tenet wrote that he provided information on it to the commission. . .

    Tenet wrote about how after being briefed by his counterterrorism team on July 10 -- two months prior to the attacks -- “I picked up the big white secure phone on the left side of my desk -- the one with a direct line to Condi Rice -- and told her that I needed to see her immediately to provide an update on the al-Qaida threat.”

    Tenet said he could not recall another time in his seven years as director of the CIA that he sought such an urgent meeting at the White House. Rice agreed to the meeting immediately, and 15 minutes later, he was in Rice’s office.

    An analyst handed out the briefing packages Tenet had just seen and began to speak. “His opening line got everyone’s attention,” Tenet wrote, “in part because it left no room for misunderstanding: ‘There will be a significant terrorist attack in the coming weeks or months!'”"

    http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/11/13809524-evidence-piles-up-that-bush-administration-got-many-pre-911-warnings

    From a 2004 blog by Fred Kaplan in Slate that was recently reposted on another blog:
    "Throughout that summer, we now well know, Tenet, Richard Clarke, and several other officials were running around with their "hair on fire," warning that al-Qaida was about to unleash a monumental attack. On Aug. 6, Bush was given the now-famous President's Daily Brief (by one of Tenet's underlings), warning that this attack might take place "inside the United States." For the previous few years—as Philip Zelikow, the commission's staff director, revealed this morning—the CIA had issued several warnings that terrorists might fly commercial airplanes into buildings or cities." http://paxonbothhouses.blogspot.com/2015/10/trump-slams-bush-for-letting-911-happen.html
    , @Reg Cæsar
    Maybe Trump was fantasizing about Cindy Crawford in 2000, but teenage boys? She was already 34.
  8. George Bush was on an ego trip from getting a large percentage of Hispanic votes whenever he ran for governor of Texas. A high number for a Republican at least. GW and Karl Rove wanted to extend this by having an illegal alien amnesty. They were working for this when 911 happened and ruined their open borders plans.
    The Vdare website was around back then and cautioned us on George Bush’s immigration stance before he was elected and after. To repeat. It was only the 911 attack that stopped these schemes. I blame Karl Rove as much as George Bush. Rove had a real grip on Bush’s mind.
    Rove is ultra sneaky and nefarious.

    • Replies: @AnAnon
    Or he was compensated for his statements.
  9. It didn’t go viral because everyone agrees that profiling based on race is wicked. 3000 Americans may have died but if our [or ‘your’ since I’m not American] commitment to race-blindness was weakened that would have been a greater tragedy.

    • Replies: @HHSIII
    You haven't heard the old saying it is better that 2,977 die than that one swarthy man named Mohamed with a five-year B1/B2 visa who one look at "gives an instant chill" to an experienced airline counter clerk gets asked a few extra questions?
  10. I guess we’ll find out in a few days whether Trump or anyone in his entourage reads your blog.

  11. A month earlier, PNAC had made its case for the benefits of “a new Pearl Harbor”

  12. At what time does the statement occur. That is a long debate.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    47:28

    Doesn't the video start at that point?
  13. Hard to believe Bush felt the Clinton Administration was not lax enough

    Ramzi Yousef was allowed to enter the US from Pakistan, although caught trying to use a fake passport and after being caught lying to the INS. In February 1993 he bombed the World Trade Center killing 6 Americans.

    although they found his bomb making plans , the FBI anti-terrorist group was not interested in interviewing his partner Ahmed Mohammad Ajaj who arrived on the same flight with Ramzi Yousef.

    in Ajaj’s luggage INS inspectors found a Saudi passport, altered Jordanian passport, and British passport in the name of Mohammed Azan, bomb-making manuals, videos and other materials on assemble weapons and explosives assembly, letters referencing his attendance at terrorist training camps; anti-American and anti-Israeli materials, instructions on document forgery, and two rubber stamp devices to alter the seal on passports He claimed to be a swdish citizen and had an altered Swedish passport, he glued his photo on it with crazy glue.

    yet the FBI had no interest in this man….what would a Muslim need to do to have the FBI interested in them ? if fake passports and bomb making plans are not enough to keep them from entering the US direct from Pakistan.

    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
    Hard to pin Ramzi Yousef on Clinton. Ramzi Yousef entered the US two months before Clinton was elected. The 93 WTC bombing took place a month after Clinton was sworn in. A Federal bureaucrat can't write a policy in a month.
    , @Big Bill

    Ramzi Yousef was allowed to enter the US from Pakistan, although caught trying to use a fake passport and after being caught lying to the INS. In February 1993 he bombed the World Trade Center killing 6 Americans.
     
    That is truly odd. For several decades taxpayers funded the Office of Special Investigations (DOJ) for tens or hundreds of millions of dollars per year to track down elderly Europeans who fudged their immigration papers post WWII. I think they tracked down and deported maybe 15-20 guys in toto.

    Most recently and after years and years of litigation, they expelled John Demyanyuk, a sick elderly blue collar worker, for fibbing on his immigration papers.

    Why on earth would the Feds be obsessed with Demyanyuk's paperwork and utterly ignore Muslim jihadi bombers?

    Who. Whom.
  14. Bush and the mortgage thing is actually relatively easy to grok, because Jack Kemp and many others like him had been peddling the notion that L’Booshondria was a geto ho only because she didn’t own her residential domicile.

    • Replies: @William BadWhite
    "Bush and the mortgage thing is actually relatively easy to grok, because Jack Kemp and many others like him had been peddling the notion that L’Booshondria was a geto ho only because she didn’t own her residential domicile."

    It doesn't matter who was peddling, anybody that bought it was an imbecile. Though I guess that explains "Bush and the mortgage thing".
  15. @Anonymous
    At what time does the statement occur. That is a long debate.

    47:28

    Doesn’t the video start at that point?

    • Replies: @Hunsdon
    It does for me, but I'm a special guy.
  16. This is the kind of stuff that would make the average GOPer’s head explode. Their ill-thought political loyalty forces them to either ignore his policies or mildly defend Dubya. That it took a Trump to do this speaks volumes about the GOP masses. The Tea Party never went there There might have been a few isolated examples, but the Tea Party as a movement never castigated Bush directly or consistently.

    Aside from Trump,who for reasons not readily apparent is changing history on his own, I’ve no real hope that the GOP brigades of the so-called Greatest Generation, Silents or Boomers will ever do the right thing. They’ve had generations to do SOMETHING. They’ve had their prophets, but like the rich man’s brothers they continue in their sinning [against their grandchildren].

    At some point blaming political elites, NAMs or political operatives no longer works to excuse the populace’s acquiescence to or complicity in the current sad state of the country. When Dalton made his speech or whenever anything like that happens, why wasn’t there an immediate petition to have the man recalled? Why no public marches or protests? Same for Reagan’s Amnesty? Where were the marches?

    There is a powerful lobby for red herrings like GUNS and the “pro-life” movement, people can and do mobilize.

    • Replies: @Thea
    Sleep sweet countrymen.
    Till we need you again
    , @NOTA
    The anti war movement during the W administration, and the tea party and occupy movements during the Obama administration, were attempts to push back on various bits of the ruling class consensus on how things should be. The media went to considerable trouble to black hole the anti war movement, and to make occupy look like a bunch of hippie-wannabes and the tea party look like a bunch of illiterate racist losers.

    Why, it's almost like the prestige media is on the *same side* as the ruling class, and will spin or distort coverage to support it.
    , @Lugash
    Are there any other ways to club Jeb or the GOPe with 9/11? I'm surprised that none of us tied the hijackers' Florida entry point to Jeb. Kudos for Trump for doing it. There seems to be a deep thinker beneath the bluster.
  17. Viralization does not correlate well with either relevance, cleverness, quality, or import. It also does not just happen automatically. In order for something to go viral, it has to be repeatedly tweeted, facebooked, “dug,” redditized, instagrammed, or otherwise continuously recycled through the various social media. I don’t participate in that sort of thing, and I suspect most iSteve readers do not, either.

    • Replies: @NOTA
    Like a real virus, each infection (share, retweet, etc) needs to lead to more than one new infection on average, or the virus dies out. When something supports a popular narrative, especially a partisan one involving bashing the other side as the idiots they are, it tends to infect more people than when it contradicts the popular narrative or subverts some common partisan attack. Thus, a video of Bush being too liberal or coming off as intelligent or well-informed won't work.

    Something similar has happened with Obama. His war on terror policies are almost indistinguishable from those of W, but this fact is often not known by partisans on either side, because it doesn't fit their preconceptions.
  18. @Steve Sailer
    47:28

    Doesn't the video start at that point?

    It does for me, but I’m a special guy.

  19. @anowow
    This is the kind of stuff that would make the average GOPer's head explode. Their ill-thought political loyalty forces them to either ignore his policies or mildly defend Dubya. That it took a Trump to do this speaks volumes about the GOP masses. The Tea Party never went there There might have been a few isolated examples, but the Tea Party as a movement never castigated Bush directly or consistently.

    Aside from Trump,who for reasons not readily apparent is changing history on his own, I've no real hope that the GOP brigades of the so-called Greatest Generation, Silents or Boomers will ever do the right thing. They've had generations to do SOMETHING. They've had their prophets, but like the rich man's brothers they continue in their sinning [against their grandchildren].


    At some point blaming political elites, NAMs or political operatives no longer works to excuse the populace's acquiescence to or complicity in the current sad state of the country. When Dalton made his speech or whenever anything like that happens, why wasn't there an immediate petition to have the man recalled? Why no public marches or protests? Same for Reagan's Amnesty? Where were the marches?

    There is a powerful lobby for red herrings like GUNS and the "pro-life" movement, people can and do mobilize.

    Sleep sweet countrymen.
    Till we need you again

  20. @Mike Sylwester
    Excerpts from an article written by Andrew Kaczynski, published by Buzzfeed.

    In 2000, 19 months before Sept. 11, 2001, Donald Trump wrote extensively of the terrorism threat the United States was facing.

    Trump, who at the time was considering a presidential bid on the Reform Party ticket, went so far as to say that an attack on a major U.S. city was not just a probability, but an inevitability.

    “I really am convinced we’re in danger of the sort of terrorist attacks that will make the bombing of the Trade Center look like kids playing with firecrackers,” wrote Trump in his 2000 book, The America We Deserve. “No sensible analyst rejects this possibility, and plenty of them, like me, are not wondering if but when it will happen.”

    Trump even mentions Osama bin Laden by name, in a criticism of an American foreign policy that too quickly jumps from one crisis to the next.

    “One day we’re told that a shadowy figure with no fixed address named Osama bin-Laden is public enemy number one, and U.S. jetfighters lay waste to his camp in Afghanistan,” The Donald wrote. “He escapes back under some rock, and a few news cycles later it’s on to a new enemy and new crisis.”

    ....

    “We can kid ourselves all we want by mocking their references to the Great Satan, but also keep in mind that there is no greater destiny for many people than to deal the Great Satan a major kick in the teeth,” he wrote, adding they despised the U.S. support for Israel.

    “Our teenage boys fantasize about Cindy Crawford; young terrorists fantasize about turning an American city (and themselves) into charcoal,” Trump wrote.

    Trump predicted a major attack on an American city that would involved weapons of mass destruction, writing, “Yet it’s time to get down to the hard business of preparing for what I believe is the real possibility that somewhere, sometime, a weapon of mass destruction will be carried into a major American city and detonated.”
     
    http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/over-a-year-before-911-trump-wrote-of-terror-threat-with-rem#.bezl8Dmqz

    I pointed out a few days ago that Bush’s National Security Adviser Condoleeza Rice received a warning more than a month before 9/11 from the CIA (personally from George Tenet, as I recall) of impending terrorist attacks “possibly involving airplanes.” That brainless, incompetent woman dismissed the warnings as “vague” because they didn’t give her specific flight numbers.

    BTW the 9/11 Commission Report, overseen by Philip Zelikow, states (at p. 359 of my version) that “In the summer of 2001, DCI Tenet, the Counterterrorist Center, and the Counterrorism Security Group did their utmost to sound a loud alarm, its basis being intelligence indicating that al Qaeda planned something big.” Curiously omitted from the Commission Report was the specific reference to Rice from Tenet and the warning “possibly involving airplanes.”

    Years later, we got this report from NBC News:

    “On the 11th anniversary of the worst terrorist attack on U.S. soil, there is mounting evidence that the Bush administration received more intelligence warnings than previously known prior to the Sept. 11 attacks that killed nearly 3,000.

    Kurt Eichenwald, a former New York Times reporter, wrote in an op-ed piece in Tuesday’s newspaper about a number of previously unknown warnings relayed to the White House by U.S. intelligence in the weeks and months prior to the attacks. Eichenwald wrote of the warnings in his new book, “500 Days: Secrets and Lies in the Terror Wars.”

    And former US intelligence officials say there were even more warnings, pointing to a little noticed section of George Tenet’s memoir, “At the Center of the Storm.”

    In it, Tenet describes a July 10, 2001, meeting at the White House in the office of Condoleezza Rice, then President George W. Bush’s national security adviser. The meeting was not discussed in the 9-11 Commission’s final report on the attacks, although Tenet wrote that he provided information on it to the commission. . .

    Tenet wrote about how after being briefed by his counterterrorism team on July 10 — two months prior to the attacks — “I picked up the big white secure phone on the left side of my desk — the one with a direct line to Condi Rice — and told her that I needed to see her immediately to provide an update on the al-Qaida threat.”

    Tenet said he could not recall another time in his seven years as director of the CIA that he sought such an urgent meeting at the White House. Rice agreed to the meeting immediately, and 15 minutes later, he was in Rice’s office.

    An analyst handed out the briefing packages Tenet had just seen and began to speak. “His opening line got everyone’s attention,” Tenet wrote, “in part because it left no room for misunderstanding: ‘There will be a significant terrorist attack in the coming weeks or months!’””

    http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/11/13809524-evidence-piles-up-that-bush-administration-got-many-pre-911-warnings

    From a 2004 blog by Fred Kaplan in Slate that was recently reposted on another blog:
    “Throughout that summer, we now well know, Tenet, Richard Clarke, and several other officials were running around with their “hair on fire,” warning that al-Qaida was about to unleash a monumental attack. On Aug. 6, Bush was given the now-famous President’s Daily Brief (by one of Tenet’s underlings), warning that this attack might take place “inside the United States.” For the previous few years—as Philip Zelikow, the commission’s staff director, revealed this morning—the CIA had issued several warnings that terrorists might fly commercial airplanes into buildings or cities.” http://paxonbothhouses.blogspot.com/2015/10/trump-slams-bush-for-letting-911-happen.html

    • Replies: @tbraton
    Here is the link to the Sept. 10, 2012 piece by Kurt Eichenwald in the NY Times summarizing the various warnings GW Bush received prior to 9/11 about an impending Al Qaeda attack. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/11/opinion/the-bush-white-house-was-deaf-to-9-11-warnings.html?_r=1
  21. Trump could put together a devastating Instagram GIF using this video. It might go viral yet.

  22. @Travis
    Hard to believe Bush felt the Clinton Administration was not lax enough

    Ramzi Yousef was allowed to enter the US from Pakistan, although caught trying to use a fake passport and after being caught lying to the INS. In February 1993 he bombed the World Trade Center killing 6 Americans.

    although they found his bomb making plans , the FBI anti-terrorist group was not interested in interviewing his partner Ahmed Mohammad Ajaj who arrived on the same flight with Ramzi Yousef.

    in Ajaj's luggage INS inspectors found a Saudi passport, altered Jordanian passport, and British passport in the name of Mohammed Azan, bomb-making manuals, videos and other materials on assemble weapons and explosives assembly, letters referencing his attendance at terrorist training camps; anti-American and anti-Israeli materials, instructions on document forgery, and two rubber stamp devices to alter the seal on passports He claimed to be a swdish citizen and had an altered Swedish passport, he glued his photo on it with crazy glue.

    yet the FBI had no interest in this man....what would a Muslim need to do to have the FBI interested in them ? if fake passports and bomb making plans are not enough to keep them from entering the US direct from Pakistan.

    Hard to pin Ramzi Yousef on Clinton. Ramzi Yousef entered the US two months before Clinton was elected. The 93 WTC bombing took place a month after Clinton was sworn in. A Federal bureaucrat can’t write a policy in a month.

    • Replies: @Trumpenprole
    Who was the President before Clinton? Wasn't he the former head of the CIA?
  23. @AndrewR
    After 9/11 the government kept up its race-blind policy; it just changed directions. So instead of treating no one like a potential terrorist they treat everyone like a potential terrorist. As a very non-Arab, non-Muslim American of overwhelmingly European descent, I dread returning to the US due to the double digit IQ, completely unaccountable bullies that pass for border agents.

    The TSA is not the Border Patrol. If you’re going to spout off about IQ at least get the basics right.

    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
    He did not mention the TSA, you did. Everyone arriving at a port of entry is inspected by a Customs and Border Protection agent. If you are going to accuse someone of getting the basics wrong, maybe you should make sure you are right.
    , @AndrewR
    I was talking about CBP. Hence the "returning to the US" part. But thanks for the rude and ignorant response.
  24. The specific screw-ups of W are mostly history, but the forces that determine which facts are remembered and shared (and which go down the memory hole) remain relevant today.

    I think a lot of what drives this is cognitive dissonance (contradictory thoughts are unpleasant to hold in your head) and confirmation bias (things that agree with your starting ideas are easier to remember and recall than things that contradict them).

    Once there is a widely accepted public image of some politician, it’s common for facts that contradict that image to bounce off the politician, while facts that re-enforce the image stick to him. A good example of this is McCain’s maverick image, which survived being a consummate insider who voted with his party nearly all the time, as well as his role in the Keating Five scandal.

    I suspect that understanding how this works is pretty useful for understanding the (vast) distance between reality and common public understanding of issues.

    • Agree: ben tillman
  25. @Intelligent Dasein
    Viralization does not correlate well with either relevance, cleverness, quality, or import. It also does not just happen automatically. In order for something to go viral, it has to be repeatedly tweeted, facebooked, "dug," redditized, instagrammed, or otherwise continuously recycled through the various social media. I don't participate in that sort of thing, and I suspect most iSteve readers do not, either.

    Like a real virus, each infection (share, retweet, etc) needs to lead to more than one new infection on average, or the virus dies out. When something supports a popular narrative, especially a partisan one involving bashing the other side as the idiots they are, it tends to infect more people than when it contradicts the popular narrative or subverts some common partisan attack. Thus, a video of Bush being too liberal or coming off as intelligent or well-informed won’t work.

    Something similar has happened with Obama. His war on terror policies are almost indistinguishable from those of W, but this fact is often not known by partisans on either side, because it doesn’t fit their preconceptions.

    • Agree: Anonym
    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Out of curiosity I peeped the White House facebook page after the MSF hospital bonbing. In the "apology" comment section, there was a shrill black female angrily blaming BUSH for the bombing. I kid you not.
    , @Anonym
    Others may support racial profiling but find it hard to get worked up over the stage-managed Arabs involved with 9/11.
  26. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    ” On 10/11/2000, the Texas governor denounced heightened scrutiny of Arab airline passengers by airport security.”

    That doesn’t sound prudent.

    “The big Bush Push of 2002-2004 to ease traditional credit standards, such as down payments and documentation, that have disparate impact on black and Hispanic mortgage-seekers.”

    That also does not sound prudent.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    The edit button still isn't working. I wanted to change the second quote in my previous comment from a sentence to a phrase but wasn't able to make the change.
    , @AndrewR
    Prudence is anti-freedom/unamerican/racist/misogynist/socialist/anti-children/un-Christian/etc
  27. @anowow
    This is the kind of stuff that would make the average GOPer's head explode. Their ill-thought political loyalty forces them to either ignore his policies or mildly defend Dubya. That it took a Trump to do this speaks volumes about the GOP masses. The Tea Party never went there There might have been a few isolated examples, but the Tea Party as a movement never castigated Bush directly or consistently.

    Aside from Trump,who for reasons not readily apparent is changing history on his own, I've no real hope that the GOP brigades of the so-called Greatest Generation, Silents or Boomers will ever do the right thing. They've had generations to do SOMETHING. They've had their prophets, but like the rich man's brothers they continue in their sinning [against their grandchildren].


    At some point blaming political elites, NAMs or political operatives no longer works to excuse the populace's acquiescence to or complicity in the current sad state of the country. When Dalton made his speech or whenever anything like that happens, why wasn't there an immediate petition to have the man recalled? Why no public marches or protests? Same for Reagan's Amnesty? Where were the marches?

    There is a powerful lobby for red herrings like GUNS and the "pro-life" movement, people can and do mobilize.

    The anti war movement during the W administration, and the tea party and occupy movements during the Obama administration, were attempts to push back on various bits of the ruling class consensus on how things should be. The media went to considerable trouble to black hole the anti war movement, and to make occupy look like a bunch of hippie-wannabes and the tea party look like a bunch of illiterate racist losers.

    Why, it’s almost like the prestige media is on the *same side* as the ruling class, and will spin or distort coverage to support it.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    If true, it's too bad the Anti War, Tea Party and Occupy people never realized that in the big picture of things they were mostly on the same side and perhaps could have worked together to become more of a unified movement.
    , @anowow
    The people in those movements are nullified, swamped out by everyone not in those movements.

    It's the "Serious People" the reasonable sorts in the middle who allow this stuff to happen. They are the ones who vote when the time comes. Contra the stereotype, this country's politics are not seriously swayed by paid for bums or dead people in Chicago or lumpenprols corralled to the voting booth by the Black Panthers.

    The Serious People aren't stupid, or many of them aren't. In their own personal lives many of them do a decent job of taking care of things, but in the aggregate they are little better than the sheep they are compared to. They are the Security Moms, the bet hedgers, the people who think SOMETHING must be done OVER THERE. The ones who abandoned nation-building after it turned out so horribly unsuccessful and deny ever supporting the Iraq War and that three cups of tea guy turned out to be a fraud. If the Iraq war had been marginally more successful, the narrative would have been much different and we'd be in Iran by now, or Yemen in large numbers.


    In fact, Trump is as successful as he is probably because of the Guatamalan urchins on the border and refugee flash mobs in the Adriatic and Balkans. Otherwise, it'd be the same old slow boiling of the frog.

    , @rod1963
    Why, it’s almost like the prestige media is on the *same side* as the ruling class, and will spin or distort coverage to support it.

    I have no doubt that it is(since they are owned by the same billionaires in the ruling class), after watching it in action over the last 30 years. IMO it is the defacto "hammer" of the establishment. It's their job to lie to the public that things are better than they are, to lie about how the political class is screwing us over, to marginalize those that dissent and protest, etc.

    Consider this, if a person just limits themselves to the MSM for information, they will have no real clue as to what is really happening or why. They'll have just been fed nonsense for the most part.

    There is not a better machine to cloud peoples minds than the MSM.
  28. @Anonymous
    " On 10/11/2000, the Texas governor denounced heightened scrutiny of Arab airline passengers by airport security."

    That doesn't sound prudent.

    "The big Bush Push of 2002-2004 to ease traditional credit standards, such as down payments and documentation, that have disparate impact on black and Hispanic mortgage-seekers."

    That also does not sound prudent.

    The edit button still isn’t working. I wanted to change the second quote in my previous comment from a sentence to a phrase but wasn’t able to make the change.

  29. @Jack Hanson
    The TSA is not the Border Patrol. If you're going to spout off about IQ at least get the basics right.

    He did not mention the TSA, you did. Everyone arriving at a port of entry is inspected by a Customs and Border Protection agent. If you are going to accuse someone of getting the basics wrong, maybe you should make sure you are right.

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    Except he did. CBPO OFFICERS are not the same as BORDER AGENTS.

    If you're going to ride in to defend your boyfriend get your own facts right.
  30. @NOTA
    The anti war movement during the W administration, and the tea party and occupy movements during the Obama administration, were attempts to push back on various bits of the ruling class consensus on how things should be. The media went to considerable trouble to black hole the anti war movement, and to make occupy look like a bunch of hippie-wannabes and the tea party look like a bunch of illiterate racist losers.

    Why, it's almost like the prestige media is on the *same side* as the ruling class, and will spin or distort coverage to support it.

    If true, it’s too bad the Anti War, Tea Party and Occupy people never realized that in the big picture of things they were mostly on the same side and perhaps could have worked together to become more of a unified movement.

  31. @Jack Hanson
    The TSA is not the Border Patrol. If you're going to spout off about IQ at least get the basics right.

    I was talking about CBP. Hence the “returning to the US” part. But thanks for the rude and ignorant response.

  32. @NOTA
    Like a real virus, each infection (share, retweet, etc) needs to lead to more than one new infection on average, or the virus dies out. When something supports a popular narrative, especially a partisan one involving bashing the other side as the idiots they are, it tends to infect more people than when it contradicts the popular narrative or subverts some common partisan attack. Thus, a video of Bush being too liberal or coming off as intelligent or well-informed won't work.

    Something similar has happened with Obama. His war on terror policies are almost indistinguishable from those of W, but this fact is often not known by partisans on either side, because it doesn't fit their preconceptions.

    Out of curiosity I peeped the White House facebook page after the MSF hospital bonbing. In the “apology” comment section, there was a shrill black female angrily blaming BUSH for the bombing. I kid you not.

    • Replies: @tbraton
    "In the “apology” comment section, there was a shrill black female angrily blaming BUSH for the bombing. I kid you not."

    There's a columnist over at the WS Journal, James Tarranto, who posts a column or two every week called "Best of the Web.". One of the recurring features of his humorous columns is a segment that he calls "We Blame George W. Bush," which originated, I believe, in mock homage to Barack Obama's tendency to blame any or all problems that arose under his administration on former President George W. Bush. This is from his current column:

    "We Blame George W. Bush
    “Who’s to Blame for Terrorism? Terrorists.”—headline, Washington Post, Oct. 20 "

    He has another mock feature that he labels "We Blame Global Warming," which pokes fun at the AGW zealots.
  33. Steve (and Peter Brimelow) should feel pretty good about themselves. They completely influenced Ann Coulter. Ann’s book has absolutely influenced Trump. Brimelow was right that all it took was one Trump speech.

    It’s also definitely possible that Trump has read Sailer. Certainly some of his points on things like Korea and Europe and national interest and the Bushes are Saileresque.

    Good job, Steve.

    • Agree: Danindc
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    I went to a Trump rally last week in Massachusetts. During his remarks he mentioned Norman Vincent Peale and the importance of Christianity. One of Trump's biographers attributes Trump's extreme confidence and inability to not get pessimistic to Peale's The Power of Positive Thinking.
    , @e
    Trump is definitely reading Sundance at The Last Refuge http://theconservativetreehouse.com/

    and I think either Sundance or many at the Conservative Treehouse read Steve.
    , @Clyde
    I have to guess that Ann Coulter has had a few long sit downs with Donald Trump before he declared his candidacy for the Republican nomination. She conveyed to Trump all he didn't know about legal and illegal immigration. Ann greatly influenced Trump. Donald Trump notoriously started out his campaign by attacking illegal immigration from Mexico and has been doing very well ever since.

    Who informed-educated Ann Coulter? Peter Brimelow and Steve Sailer. The VDare website.
  34. @Anonymous
    " On 10/11/2000, the Texas governor denounced heightened scrutiny of Arab airline passengers by airport security."

    That doesn't sound prudent.

    "The big Bush Push of 2002-2004 to ease traditional credit standards, such as down payments and documentation, that have disparate impact on black and Hispanic mortgage-seekers."

    That also does not sound prudent.

    Prudence is anti-freedom/unamerican/racist/misogynist/socialist/anti-children/un-Christian/etc

  35. Bush family’s business ties to the Saudi royal family should be mentioned as a factor which might have influenced Dubya’s decision against profiling Arabs.

    • Replies: @Lugash
    As dim as Dubya was, the Saudis might not have even had to pay off the Bush clan. Just have Prince Bandar mention in passing how his countrymen are being harassed at American airports, and boom, Dubya is a SJW.
    , @JohnnyWalker123
    After 9/11, the Bin Laden was immediately evacuated from the country by the US govt.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bin-laden-family-evacuated/

    I'm sure there was a payoff from the Bin Ladens to Bush.
  36. @countenance
    Bush and the mortgage thing is actually relatively easy to grok, because Jack Kemp and many others like him had been peddling the notion that L'Booshondria was a geto ho only because she didn't own her residential domicile.

    “Bush and the mortgage thing is actually relatively easy to grok, because Jack Kemp and many others like him had been peddling the notion that L’Booshondria was a geto ho only because she didn’t own her residential domicile.”

    It doesn’t matter who was peddling, anybody that bought it was an imbecile. Though I guess that explains “Bush and the mortgage thing”.

  37. @Anonymous
    Hijackers got state IDs legally

    Florida and federal officials are reviewing policy after the terrorists traveled on state identification.

    By STEVE BOUSQUET and ALISA ULFERTS

    © St. Petersburg Times,
    published September 16, 2001
    ...
    Thirteen of the 19 hijackers were issued Florida identification, either driver's licenses or identification cards issued by the state. Of the 13, eight obtained state licenses or identification cards since May 1.
    ...
    We are reviewing everything," Gov. Jeb Bush said Saturday.


    http://www.sptimes.com/News/091601/State/Hijackers_got_state_I.shtml

    Oddly enough, the MSM didn’t report the incident as “Thirteen Florida Men Blow Up World Trade Center”.

  38. Every member of the Bush family has the IQ of a corn-dog..

  39. @Hello4023
    Steve (and Peter Brimelow) should feel pretty good about themselves. They completely influenced Ann Coulter. Ann's book has absolutely influenced Trump. Brimelow was right that all it took was one Trump speech.

    It's also definitely possible that Trump has read Sailer. Certainly some of his points on things like Korea and Europe and national interest and the Bushes are Saileresque.

    Good job, Steve.

    I went to a Trump rally last week in Massachusetts. During his remarks he mentioned Norman Vincent Peale and the importance of Christianity. One of Trump’s biographers attributes Trump’s extreme confidence and inability to not get pessimistic to Peale’s The Power of Positive Thinking.

  40. @Clyde
    George Bush was on an ego trip from getting a large percentage of Hispanic votes whenever he ran for governor of Texas. A high number for a Republican at least. GW and Karl Rove wanted to extend this by having an illegal alien amnesty. They were working for this when 911 happened and ruined their open borders plans.
    The Vdare website was around back then and cautioned us on George Bush's immigration stance before he was elected and after. To repeat. It was only the 911 attack that stopped these schemes. I blame Karl Rove as much as George Bush. Rove had a real grip on Bush's mind.
    Rove is ultra sneaky and nefarious.

    Or he was compensated for his statements.

  41. That debate took place from 9:00 to 10:30 p.m. (E.D.T.) on Wednesday evening, October 11, 2000:

    http://www.debates.org/index.php?page=2000-debates

    That was the day after my final birthday of the old millennium, and I was on vacation, visiting my sister and brother-in-law, in Toms River, New Jersey, where the three of us watched the debate together, in their living room.

    Here is a transcript of the evening:

    http://www.debates.org/index.php?page=october-11-2000-debate-transcript

    That Wednesday evening at 10:30 p.m. (E.D.T.) in Winston-Salem, North Carolina, was 2:30 a.m. UTC on Thursday morning, October 12, 2000. At 8:18 a.m. (UTC) [4:18 a.m. (E.D.T.)], five hours and forty-eight minutes after that year’s second presidential debate went off the air, in the United States, the American Navy ship U.S.S. Cole was attacked by al-Qaeda, in Aden, Yemen, killing 17 American sailors, and injuring 39 others.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    The facts mentioned in this thread should be collected, thoroughly vetted, and turned into a video against Jeb Bush and also our current immigration, multicultural, non-stop wars policies. Each stupid idea should be presented in such a way so that after each one we could hear Daddy Bush's voice say, "It wouldn't be prudent."
  42. Along the same line, when the incoming Bush national security people were being briefed, the Clinton people told them that they had to worry more about Osama Bin laden than anything else.

    The Bushites dismissed this, said that the real threat was Iraq’s intelligence service, the Mukhabarat. They were nuts. Still are, as far as I can see.

  43. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @D. K.
    That debate took place from 9:00 to 10:30 p.m. (E.D.T.) on Wednesday evening, October 11, 2000:

    http://www.debates.org/index.php?page=2000-debates

    That was the day after my final birthday of the old millennium, and I was on vacation, visiting my sister and brother-in-law, in Toms River, New Jersey, where the three of us watched the debate together, in their living room.

    Here is a transcript of the evening:

    http://www.debates.org/index.php?page=october-11-2000-debate-transcript

    That Wednesday evening at 10:30 p.m. (E.D.T.) in Winston-Salem, North Carolina, was 2:30 a.m. UTC on Thursday morning, October 12, 2000. At 8:18 a.m. (UTC) [4:18 a.m. (E.D.T.)], five hours and forty-eight minutes after that year's second presidential debate went off the air, in the United States, the American Navy ship U.S.S. Cole was attacked by al-Qaeda, in Aden, Yemen, killing 17 American sailors, and injuring 39 others.

    The facts mentioned in this thread should be collected, thoroughly vetted, and turned into a video against Jeb Bush and also our current immigration, multicultural, non-stop wars policies. Each stupid idea should be presented in such a way so that after each one we could hear Daddy Bush’s voice say, “It wouldn’t be prudent.

    • Agree: European-American
  44. Someone should do a split screen of this video with W denouncing racial profiling on the left side and the Twin Towers falling on the right screen.

  45. @NOTA
    The anti war movement during the W administration, and the tea party and occupy movements during the Obama administration, were attempts to push back on various bits of the ruling class consensus on how things should be. The media went to considerable trouble to black hole the anti war movement, and to make occupy look like a bunch of hippie-wannabes and the tea party look like a bunch of illiterate racist losers.

    Why, it's almost like the prestige media is on the *same side* as the ruling class, and will spin or distort coverage to support it.

    The people in those movements are nullified, swamped out by everyone not in those movements.

    It’s the “Serious People” the reasonable sorts in the middle who allow this stuff to happen. They are the ones who vote when the time comes. Contra the stereotype, this country’s politics are not seriously swayed by paid for bums or dead people in Chicago or lumpenprols corralled to the voting booth by the Black Panthers.

    The Serious People aren’t stupid, or many of them aren’t. In their own personal lives many of them do a decent job of taking care of things, but in the aggregate they are little better than the sheep they are compared to. They are the Security Moms, the bet hedgers, the people who think SOMETHING must be done OVER THERE. The ones who abandoned nation-building after it turned out so horribly unsuccessful and deny ever supporting the Iraq War and that three cups of tea guy turned out to be a fraud. If the Iraq war had been marginally more successful, the narrative would have been much different and we’d be in Iran by now, or Yemen in large numbers.

    In fact, Trump is as successful as he is probably because of the Guatamalan urchins on the border and refugee flash mobs in the Adriatic and Balkans. Otherwise, it’d be the same old slow boiling of the frog.

  46. @Travis
    Hard to believe Bush felt the Clinton Administration was not lax enough

    Ramzi Yousef was allowed to enter the US from Pakistan, although caught trying to use a fake passport and after being caught lying to the INS. In February 1993 he bombed the World Trade Center killing 6 Americans.

    although they found his bomb making plans , the FBI anti-terrorist group was not interested in interviewing his partner Ahmed Mohammad Ajaj who arrived on the same flight with Ramzi Yousef.

    in Ajaj's luggage INS inspectors found a Saudi passport, altered Jordanian passport, and British passport in the name of Mohammed Azan, bomb-making manuals, videos and other materials on assemble weapons and explosives assembly, letters referencing his attendance at terrorist training camps; anti-American and anti-Israeli materials, instructions on document forgery, and two rubber stamp devices to alter the seal on passports He claimed to be a swdish citizen and had an altered Swedish passport, he glued his photo on it with crazy glue.

    yet the FBI had no interest in this man....what would a Muslim need to do to have the FBI interested in them ? if fake passports and bomb making plans are not enough to keep them from entering the US direct from Pakistan.

    Ramzi Yousef was allowed to enter the US from Pakistan, although caught trying to use a fake passport and after being caught lying to the INS. In February 1993 he bombed the World Trade Center killing 6 Americans.

    That is truly odd. For several decades taxpayers funded the Office of Special Investigations (DOJ) for tens or hundreds of millions of dollars per year to track down elderly Europeans who fudged their immigration papers post WWII. I think they tracked down and deported maybe 15-20 guys in toto.

    Most recently and after years and years of litigation, they expelled John Demyanyuk, a sick elderly blue collar worker, for fibbing on his immigration papers.

    Why on earth would the Feds be obsessed with Demyanyuk’s paperwork and utterly ignore Muslim jihadi bombers?

    Who. Whom.

  47. @anowow
    This is the kind of stuff that would make the average GOPer's head explode. Their ill-thought political loyalty forces them to either ignore his policies or mildly defend Dubya. That it took a Trump to do this speaks volumes about the GOP masses. The Tea Party never went there There might have been a few isolated examples, but the Tea Party as a movement never castigated Bush directly or consistently.

    Aside from Trump,who for reasons not readily apparent is changing history on his own, I've no real hope that the GOP brigades of the so-called Greatest Generation, Silents or Boomers will ever do the right thing. They've had generations to do SOMETHING. They've had their prophets, but like the rich man's brothers they continue in their sinning [against their grandchildren].


    At some point blaming political elites, NAMs or political operatives no longer works to excuse the populace's acquiescence to or complicity in the current sad state of the country. When Dalton made his speech or whenever anything like that happens, why wasn't there an immediate petition to have the man recalled? Why no public marches or protests? Same for Reagan's Amnesty? Where were the marches?

    There is a powerful lobby for red herrings like GUNS and the "pro-life" movement, people can and do mobilize.

    Are there any other ways to club Jeb or the GOPe with 9/11? I’m surprised that none of us tied the hijackers’ Florida entry point to Jeb. Kudos for Trump for doing it. There seems to be a deep thinker beneath the bluster.

    • Replies: @Hello4023
    Focus on their response to 9/11:

    - Did Jeb! fire anyone after the 9/11 terrorists got their licenses in Florida? No
    - Did Dubya fire anyone from the DoD/CIA/NSA? Nope
    - Did they fix the VISA Program as most of the bombers were able to get visas? No
    - Did they secure the border to not allow in more threats? Nope
    - Were they honest about Islam? They called it a Religion of Peace and dramatically increased immigration from Muslim countries. That's a big fat no

    Hit em' hard Donald!!
    , @anowow
    Footage of the Bushes holding hands with Saudis never seemed to do the trick for years. The same people who'd cheer on that idiot Terry Jones for burning Korans never registered about Dubya celebrating Ramadan.

    Distrust and anger at the elites still hasn't translated into a rejection of the dog and pony show, and it might never. Americans, despite our history, aren't really good at ideology, we often don't understand it or really spend much time thinking about the history or genealogy of ideas or etymology of terms. For example, the popularity of a term like RINO with people who are, from a historical standpoint, the real RINOs. Republicans historically being a Northern party of big moneyed interests or Germano-Scandinavian middle-class sorts, I find it ironic that a populist elements with strong Southern, Western and Southwestern regional connections declares itself to be the real Republicans in contrast to the actual or spiritual descendants of the House of Morgan.


    Said individuals also accuse the Democrats of being racist because of the old Dixiecrats. It would be pretty amusing, if it was going on in another country.
    , @ben tillman

    Are there any other ways to club Jeb or the GOPe with 9/11? I’m surprised that none of us tied the hijackers’ Florida entry point to Jeb.
     
    Marvin Bush was was on the board of directors of a company providing electronic security for the World Trade Center, Dulles International Airport, and United Airlines.
  48. @Mike Sylwester
    Excerpts from an article written by Andrew Kaczynski, published by Buzzfeed.

    In 2000, 19 months before Sept. 11, 2001, Donald Trump wrote extensively of the terrorism threat the United States was facing.

    Trump, who at the time was considering a presidential bid on the Reform Party ticket, went so far as to say that an attack on a major U.S. city was not just a probability, but an inevitability.

    “I really am convinced we’re in danger of the sort of terrorist attacks that will make the bombing of the Trade Center look like kids playing with firecrackers,” wrote Trump in his 2000 book, The America We Deserve. “No sensible analyst rejects this possibility, and plenty of them, like me, are not wondering if but when it will happen.”

    Trump even mentions Osama bin Laden by name, in a criticism of an American foreign policy that too quickly jumps from one crisis to the next.

    “One day we’re told that a shadowy figure with no fixed address named Osama bin-Laden is public enemy number one, and U.S. jetfighters lay waste to his camp in Afghanistan,” The Donald wrote. “He escapes back under some rock, and a few news cycles later it’s on to a new enemy and new crisis.”

    ....

    “We can kid ourselves all we want by mocking their references to the Great Satan, but also keep in mind that there is no greater destiny for many people than to deal the Great Satan a major kick in the teeth,” he wrote, adding they despised the U.S. support for Israel.

    “Our teenage boys fantasize about Cindy Crawford; young terrorists fantasize about turning an American city (and themselves) into charcoal,” Trump wrote.

    Trump predicted a major attack on an American city that would involved weapons of mass destruction, writing, “Yet it’s time to get down to the hard business of preparing for what I believe is the real possibility that somewhere, sometime, a weapon of mass destruction will be carried into a major American city and detonated.”
     
    http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/over-a-year-before-911-trump-wrote-of-terror-threat-with-rem#.bezl8Dmqz

    Maybe Trump was fantasizing about Cindy Crawford in 2000, but teenage boys? She was already 34.

  49. @Harold
    It didn't go viral because everyone agrees that profiling based on race is wicked. 3000 Americans may have died but if our [or 'your' since I'm not American] commitment to race-blindness was weakened that would have been a greater tragedy.

    You haven’t heard the old saying it is better that 2,977 die than that one swarthy man named Mohamed with a five-year B1/B2 visa who one look at “gives an instant chill” to an experienced airline counter clerk gets asked a few extra questions?

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    As The Derb said so well, "Better dead than rude".
  50. @Hello4023
    Steve (and Peter Brimelow) should feel pretty good about themselves. They completely influenced Ann Coulter. Ann's book has absolutely influenced Trump. Brimelow was right that all it took was one Trump speech.

    It's also definitely possible that Trump has read Sailer. Certainly some of his points on things like Korea and Europe and national interest and the Bushes are Saileresque.

    Good job, Steve.

    Trump is definitely reading Sundance at The Last Refuge http://theconservativetreehouse.com/

    and I think either Sundance or many at the Conservative Treehouse read Steve.

  51. I believe Bush made similar comments in one of his debates as I recall.

  52. @Lugash
    Are there any other ways to club Jeb or the GOPe with 9/11? I'm surprised that none of us tied the hijackers' Florida entry point to Jeb. Kudos for Trump for doing it. There seems to be a deep thinker beneath the bluster.

    Focus on their response to 9/11:

    – Did Jeb! fire anyone after the 9/11 terrorists got their licenses in Florida? No
    – Did Dubya fire anyone from the DoD/CIA/NSA? Nope
    – Did they fix the VISA Program as most of the bombers were able to get visas? No
    – Did they secure the border to not allow in more threats? Nope
    – Were they honest about Islam? They called it a Religion of Peace and dramatically increased immigration from Muslim countries. That’s a big fat no

    Hit em’ hard Donald!!

  53. I think Trump should pivot to focus on the response to 9/11 and how it was all wrong:

    – The Bushes fired no one. No one at DoD/CIA/NSA lost their jobs. No one in Florida lost their job for allowing the bombers to get licenses
    – They did not fix the VISA program even though most of the terrorists were in the country on foreign VISAS
    – They did not take control of immigration and close the borders. In fact, Muslim immigration (and immigration in general) has proceeded and expanded. They did not secure the border
    – They did not attack Islamists who wanted nukes. Instead of attacking fundamentalist Iran, they attacked secular dictator Saddam in Iraq. That’s led to ISIS and an Iran that could get nukes
    – They lied about Islam and allowed it to expand in the U.S. They called it a Religion of Peace and dramatically increased immigration from Muslim countries.

    The Bushes are a plague on the U.S. The opportunity cost to the GOP and the country for having them atop the party is staggering. We need Trump!!

    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
    You are mostly right, except the whole Iran boogeyman is nothing but propaganda from Tel Aviv.
    , @Name Withheld
    Another thing that was forgotten about 9/11 - One of the terrorists had their visa renewed about six months after the attack. It was briefly reported in the media, then swept under the table.
  54. @Lugash
    Are there any other ways to club Jeb or the GOPe with 9/11? I'm surprised that none of us tied the hijackers' Florida entry point to Jeb. Kudos for Trump for doing it. There seems to be a deep thinker beneath the bluster.

    Footage of the Bushes holding hands with Saudis never seemed to do the trick for years. The same people who’d cheer on that idiot Terry Jones for burning Korans never registered about Dubya celebrating Ramadan.

    Distrust and anger at the elites still hasn’t translated into a rejection of the dog and pony show, and it might never. Americans, despite our history, aren’t really good at ideology, we often don’t understand it or really spend much time thinking about the history or genealogy of ideas or etymology of terms. For example, the popularity of a term like RINO with people who are, from a historical standpoint, the real RINOs. Republicans historically being a Northern party of big moneyed interests or Germano-Scandinavian middle-class sorts, I find it ironic that a populist elements with strong Southern, Western and Southwestern regional connections declares itself to be the real Republicans in contrast to the actual or spiritual descendants of the House of Morgan.

    Said individuals also accuse the Democrats of being racist because of the old Dixiecrats. It would be pretty amusing, if it was going on in another country.

  55. @Hello4023
    Steve (and Peter Brimelow) should feel pretty good about themselves. They completely influenced Ann Coulter. Ann's book has absolutely influenced Trump. Brimelow was right that all it took was one Trump speech.

    It's also definitely possible that Trump has read Sailer. Certainly some of his points on things like Korea and Europe and national interest and the Bushes are Saileresque.

    Good job, Steve.

    I have to guess that Ann Coulter has had a few long sit downs with Donald Trump before he declared his candidacy for the Republican nomination. She conveyed to Trump all he didn’t know about legal and illegal immigration. Ann greatly influenced Trump. Donald Trump notoriously started out his campaign by attacking illegal immigration from Mexico and has been doing very well ever since.

    Who informed-educated Ann Coulter? Peter Brimelow and Steve Sailer. The VDare website.

  56. @AndrewR
    Out of curiosity I peeped the White House facebook page after the MSF hospital bonbing. In the "apology" comment section, there was a shrill black female angrily blaming BUSH for the bombing. I kid you not.

    “In the “apology” comment section, there was a shrill black female angrily blaming BUSH for the bombing. I kid you not.”

    There’s a columnist over at the WS Journal, James Tarranto, who posts a column or two every week called “Best of the Web.”. One of the recurring features of his humorous columns is a segment that he calls “We Blame George W. Bush,” which originated, I believe, in mock homage to Barack Obama’s tendency to blame any or all problems that arose under his administration on former President George W. Bush. This is from his current column:

    “We Blame George W. Bush
    “Who’s to Blame for Terrorism? Terrorists.”—headline, Washington Post, Oct. 20 ”

    He has another mock feature that he labels “We Blame Global Warming,” which pokes fun at the AGW zealots.

  57. I’m all for treating Arabs with respect. We should demand Israel do the same. How about withholding all weapons and financial aid from our Saturday friends until they stop profiling Arabs at Ben Gurion Airport, at the El Al terminal at JFK, at all West Bank checkpoints, and so forth. Where was fat-faced Spencer Abraham on applying this principle evenly?

  58. @NOTA
    The anti war movement during the W administration, and the tea party and occupy movements during the Obama administration, were attempts to push back on various bits of the ruling class consensus on how things should be. The media went to considerable trouble to black hole the anti war movement, and to make occupy look like a bunch of hippie-wannabes and the tea party look like a bunch of illiterate racist losers.

    Why, it's almost like the prestige media is on the *same side* as the ruling class, and will spin or distort coverage to support it.

    Why, it’s almost like the prestige media is on the *same side* as the ruling class, and will spin or distort coverage to support it.

    I have no doubt that it is(since they are owned by the same billionaires in the ruling class), after watching it in action over the last 30 years. IMO it is the defacto “hammer” of the establishment. It’s their job to lie to the public that things are better than they are, to lie about how the political class is screwing us over, to marginalize those that dissent and protest, etc.

    Consider this, if a person just limits themselves to the MSM for information, they will have no real clue as to what is really happening or why. They’ll have just been fed nonsense for the most part.

    There is not a better machine to cloud peoples minds than the MSM.

  59. @NOTA
    Like a real virus, each infection (share, retweet, etc) needs to lead to more than one new infection on average, or the virus dies out. When something supports a popular narrative, especially a partisan one involving bashing the other side as the idiots they are, it tends to infect more people than when it contradicts the popular narrative or subverts some common partisan attack. Thus, a video of Bush being too liberal or coming off as intelligent or well-informed won't work.

    Something similar has happened with Obama. His war on terror policies are almost indistinguishable from those of W, but this fact is often not known by partisans on either side, because it doesn't fit their preconceptions.

    Others may support racial profiling but find it hard to get worked up over the stage-managed Arabs involved with 9/11.

  60. OT – what are the ramifications of the liberals defeating the conservatives in Canada? More specifically, how will their immigration policy change? Will the new party in power change their immigration policy from favoring high-IQ Chinese and Hindus, to favoring lower IQ Jamaicans, Africans, Pakistanis, and other assorted Muslims?

  61. • Replies: @Bliss
    From your link:

    http://prntly.com/blog/2015/10/17/shock-poll-trump-blue-collar-support-highest-since-fdr-in-1930s/

    Trump’s appeal to blue collar workers is in the 60% range, higher than any candidate since Franklin Roosevelt won a massive landslide in 1936 on the support of the Blue Collar voter.

    Trump doesn’t do well with just the average “White Joe Sixpack,” he also gains a large share of black voters and even hispanics (25%, 37%)


    Wow. Amazing numbers for a republican. We really are witnessing a revolution in the making. Trump is the anti-Reagan in so many ways.
  62. @HHSIII
    You haven't heard the old saying it is better that 2,977 die than that one swarthy man named Mohamed with a five-year B1/B2 visa who one look at "gives an instant chill" to an experienced airline counter clerk gets asked a few extra questions?

    As The Derb said so well, “Better dead than rude”.

  63. @Stan
    Bush family's business ties to the Saudi royal family should be mentioned as a factor which might have influenced Dubya's decision against profiling Arabs.

    As dim as Dubya was, the Saudis might not have even had to pay off the Bush clan. Just have Prince Bandar mention in passing how his countrymen are being harassed at American airports, and boom, Dubya is a SJW.

  64. @Stan
    Bush family's business ties to the Saudi royal family should be mentioned as a factor which might have influenced Dubya's decision against profiling Arabs.

    After 9/11, the Bin Laden was immediately evacuated from the country by the US govt.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bin-laden-family-evacuated/

    I’m sure there was a payoff from the Bin Ladens to Bush.

  65. @Chris Mallory
    Hard to pin Ramzi Yousef on Clinton. Ramzi Yousef entered the US two months before Clinton was elected. The 93 WTC bombing took place a month after Clinton was sworn in. A Federal bureaucrat can't write a policy in a month.

    Who was the President before Clinton? Wasn’t he the former head of the CIA?

  66. The Atlantic magazine backs Trump, incriminates Bush and the neocons:

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/10/did-george-w-bush-do-all-he-could-to-prevent-911/411175/#article-comments

    Trump Is Right About 9/11

    When the Bush administration took office in January 2001, CIA Director George Tenet and National Security Council counterterrorism “czar” Richard Clarke both warned its incoming officials that al-Qaeda represented a grave threat.

    But both Clarke and Tenet grew deeply frustrated by the way top Bush officials responded.

    According to Kurt Eichenwald, a former New York Times reporter given access to the Daily Briefs prepared by the intelligence agencies for President Bush in the spring and summer of 2001, the CIA told the White House by May 1 that “a group presently in the United States” was planning a terrorist attack. On June 22, the Daily Brief warned that al-Qaeda strikes might be “imminent.”

    But the same Defense Department officials who discounted Clarke’s warnings pushed back against the CIA’s. According to Eichenwald’s sources, “the neoconservative leaders who had recently assumed power at the Pentagon were warning the White House that the C.I.A. had been fooled; according to this theory, Bin Laden was merely pretending to be planning an attack to distract the administration from Saddam Hussein, whom the neoconservatives saw as a greater threat.”

    The CIA fought back. “The U.S. is not the target of a disinformation campaign by Usama Bin Laden,” declared the Daily Brief on June 29, noting that the al-Qaeda leader had recently told a Middle Eastern journalist to expect an attack. The following day, the CIA included in its Daily Brief an article entitled “Bin Laden Threats Are Real.” On July 1, the Brief predicted that an attack “will occur soon.”

    The warnings continued. On July 11, the CIA sent word to the White House that a Chechen with links to al-Qaeda had warned that something big was coming. On July 24, the Daily Brief said the expected al-Qaeda attack had been postponed but was still being planned. Finally, on August 6, the CIA titled its Daily Brief: “Bin Ladin Determined to Strike the US.” The briefing didn’t mention a specific date or target, but it did mention the possibility of attack in New York and mentioned that the terrorists might hijack airplanes.

    according to Clarke’s book, Against All Enemies, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz objected that “I just don’t understand why we are beginning by talking about this one man, bin Laden.” Clarke responded that, “We are talking about a network of terrorist organizations called al-Qaeda, that happens to be led by bin Laden, and we are talking about that network because it and it alone poses an immediate and serious threat to the United States.” To which Wolfowitz replied, “Well, there are others that do as well, at least as much. Iraqi terrorism for example.”

    Given that George W. Bush’s advisers still dominate the Republican foreign-policy establishment—an establishment that has not broken with his ideological legacy in any fundamental way—his record both before and after 9/11 remains relevant to the terrorism debate today

    ___________________________________________________

    Note how the neocons in the White House and the Pentagon were focused on Iraq even before 9/11, which made them dismissive of the imminent al-Qaeda threat. Very similar to how, today, they are focused like a laser on Iran instead of ISIS.

    Also worth noting that it was Obama who finally found and killed bin Laden….years after Bush declared Mission Accomplished.

  67. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Great Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:

    Go beyond the wonkish policy debate about what Bush W did or did not know…WTF are Muslims doing in the US in the first place?..Answer:To vote Whitey into a violently persecuted racial minority in post-White Toilet Bowl “America”…This is far worse than 9/11..Chattanooga…1993…and Fort Hood. And why is SUNY STONY BROOK on 25A..200 yards down from Renaissance Technology…all Asian?

  68. @Hello4023
    I think Trump should pivot to focus on the response to 9/11 and how it was all wrong:

    - The Bushes fired no one. No one at DoD/CIA/NSA lost their jobs. No one in Florida lost their job for allowing the bombers to get licenses
    - They did not fix the VISA program even though most of the terrorists were in the country on foreign VISAS
    - They did not take control of immigration and close the borders. In fact, Muslim immigration (and immigration in general) has proceeded and expanded. They did not secure the border
    - They did not attack Islamists who wanted nukes. Instead of attacking fundamentalist Iran, they attacked secular dictator Saddam in Iraq. That's led to ISIS and an Iran that could get nukes
    - They lied about Islam and allowed it to expand in the U.S. They called it a Religion of Peace and dramatically increased immigration from Muslim countries.

    The Bushes are a plague on the U.S. The opportunity cost to the GOP and the country for having them atop the party is staggering. We need Trump!!

    You are mostly right, except the whole Iran boogeyman is nothing but propaganda from Tel Aviv.

    • Replies: @Unladen Swallow
    Yeah, If they were that big a threat the Israelis would have already bombed that reactor to smithereens a few years back and they wouldn't have asked anyone's permission. One bomb ( maybe ) with no delivery system is no threat to an Israel with a few hundred bad boys and the planes, subs, and missiles to deliver them. Iran is only a threat to Sunnis in Iraq and with Russian help, Syria.
  69. @tbraton
    I pointed out a few days ago that Bush's National Security Adviser Condoleeza Rice received a warning more than a month before 9/11 from the CIA (personally from George Tenet, as I recall) of impending terrorist attacks "possibly involving airplanes." That brainless, incompetent woman dismissed the warnings as "vague" because they didn't give her specific flight numbers.

    BTW the 9/11 Commission Report, overseen by Philip Zelikow, states (at p. 359 of my version) that "In the summer of 2001, DCI Tenet, the Counterterrorist Center, and the Counterrorism Security Group did their utmost to sound a loud alarm, its basis being intelligence indicating that al Qaeda planned something big." Curiously omitted from the Commission Report was the specific reference to Rice from Tenet and the warning "possibly involving airplanes."

    Years later, we got this report from NBC News:

    "On the 11th anniversary of the worst terrorist attack on U.S. soil, there is mounting evidence that the Bush administration received more intelligence warnings than previously known prior to the Sept. 11 attacks that killed nearly 3,000.

    Kurt Eichenwald, a former New York Times reporter, wrote in an op-ed piece in Tuesday’s newspaper about a number of previously unknown warnings relayed to the White House by U.S. intelligence in the weeks and months prior to the attacks. Eichenwald wrote of the warnings in his new book, “500 Days: Secrets and Lies in the Terror Wars.”

    And former US intelligence officials say there were even more warnings, pointing to a little noticed section of George Tenet’s memoir, “At the Center of the Storm.”

    In it, Tenet describes a July 10, 2001, meeting at the White House in the office of Condoleezza Rice, then President George W. Bush’s national security adviser. The meeting was not discussed in the 9-11 Commission’s final report on the attacks, although Tenet wrote that he provided information on it to the commission. . .

    Tenet wrote about how after being briefed by his counterterrorism team on July 10 -- two months prior to the attacks -- “I picked up the big white secure phone on the left side of my desk -- the one with a direct line to Condi Rice -- and told her that I needed to see her immediately to provide an update on the al-Qaida threat.”

    Tenet said he could not recall another time in his seven years as director of the CIA that he sought such an urgent meeting at the White House. Rice agreed to the meeting immediately, and 15 minutes later, he was in Rice’s office.

    An analyst handed out the briefing packages Tenet had just seen and began to speak. “His opening line got everyone’s attention,” Tenet wrote, “in part because it left no room for misunderstanding: ‘There will be a significant terrorist attack in the coming weeks or months!'”"

    http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/11/13809524-evidence-piles-up-that-bush-administration-got-many-pre-911-warnings

    From a 2004 blog by Fred Kaplan in Slate that was recently reposted on another blog:
    "Throughout that summer, we now well know, Tenet, Richard Clarke, and several other officials were running around with their "hair on fire," warning that al-Qaida was about to unleash a monumental attack. On Aug. 6, Bush was given the now-famous President's Daily Brief (by one of Tenet's underlings), warning that this attack might take place "inside the United States." For the previous few years—as Philip Zelikow, the commission's staff director, revealed this morning—the CIA had issued several warnings that terrorists might fly commercial airplanes into buildings or cities." http://paxonbothhouses.blogspot.com/2015/10/trump-slams-bush-for-letting-911-happen.html

    Here is the link to the Sept. 10, 2012 piece by Kurt Eichenwald in the NY Times summarizing the various warnings GW Bush received prior to 9/11 about an impending Al Qaeda attack. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/11/opinion/the-bush-white-house-was-deaf-to-9-11-warnings.html?_r=1

  70. German official to Germans: If you don’t like it, leave Germany: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=eab_1445033279#Vy0P35A0s5PTMhVk.99 (video)

    This is it. The moment an actual government official makes it clear. This is a total transformation. The end of rational law and rule by fiat and a population replacement. Germans told to leave Germany if they do not like the immigration policies of the Merkel government.

  71. Presumably Mr. Sailer and all the IQ theorists must think that they themselves are quite clever. (Otherwise, they wouldn’t be pushing all this, right?)

    Yet, they are not clever enough, seemingly, to realise, after 14 years, that the Arabs blamed for the 9/11 attacks were just patsies.

    How clever do you have to be to realise that no real suicide operation could work the way this one is described to have worked? Could Osama Bin Laden really recruit 19 young men over a year before the operation and send them off to a foreign country and base the entire operation on the certainty that all of them would show up to kill themselves at the appointed time and date over a year later? Is there any record of any suicide operation in the history of the world ever working like that? Wouldn’t Bin Laden have to take into account that, given a year’s lead time, many of the young men might well change their minds and decide not to kill themselves?

    All of this IQ theorising relies on arguments of a statistical nature. On the day of 9/11/2001, the U.S. authorities were running various drills, some of which simulated the exact event that occurred on that very day. What is the likelihood of this? In a couple of decades prior to 9/11, not one airliner had been hijacked. The plan required multiple planes to be hijacked within the same hour.

    So, the threat of “multiple airliner hijackings” was quite a remote possibility, one would think. Yet the U.S. authorities had a planned drill for this case. The actual terrorists (so it is claimed) also completely elaborated a plan involving multiple hijackings. Absolutely independently.

    The drill and the terrorist attack coincided on the same day.

    How can people people who are supposed to be such experts in human intelligence profess to believe in the official 9/11 story?

    If you don’t want immigration from Muslim countries, there are legitimate arguments to be made, I’m sure. But this 9/11 nonsense is pathetic. Obviously, the power structure that made 9/11 happened were the ones who wanted the wars and the Muslims they say did it were just patsies.

  72. @Chris Mallory
    He did not mention the TSA, you did. Everyone arriving at a port of entry is inspected by a Customs and Border Protection agent. If you are going to accuse someone of getting the basics wrong, maybe you should make sure you are right.

    Except he did. CBPO OFFICERS are not the same as BORDER AGENTS.

    If you’re going to ride in to defend your boyfriend get your own facts right.

  73. Not to pile on with the paranoia, but a good way to distract us from asking questions about roles and responsibilities in the attack was to start two massive wars. I guess that’s obvious. But I sure fell for it.

    On the other hand… “Fight them there so we won’t have to fight them at home” is an argument recently made by… the Russians to justify their Syrian campaign.

    Preemptive strike is how you fight terrorism – Putin on Syrian engagement
    “Radicals from many countries of the world, including Russia, have flocked to Iraq and Syria to join the terrorist group. They must be defeated there and not allowed to return to their home countries with battle experience and ideology adopted in the war zone, Putin believes.”
    https://www.rt.com/news/317041-preemptive-strike-putin-terrorism/

    • Replies: @Difference Maker
    1. Russia borders the Middle East. We have oceans
    2. Indeed, I have long thought that Iraq and Afghanistan were perfect for fighting there instead of at home.. for the terrorists.

    - Just imagine, the Great Satan helpfully sending their soldiers and personnel over here to be attacked, with a kid gloves policy so that they are sitting ducks and like sheep. A perfect opportunity
  74. But I’ve posted this before with negligible impact.

    That’s because you have acolytes but you just entertain them. You don’t encourage them to actually solve problems. All these problems anti-amnesty (etc.) leaders complain about could be solved, if those leaders acted like leaders for once instead of just being entertainers.

    Encourage your followers to go out into the wider world (or at least wider internet) and help discredit pro-GWB, pro-amnesty leaders.

    For a tangible example, search Twitter for @DMiliband. His slimy group is encouraging migrants to head to EU, and it was featured on 60 Minutes. Is anyone else beside me trying to undercut him to his supporters?

    I can’t relate to seeing a problem I could and should solve and then not trying to solve it.

  75. OT:

    If you’d like to enjoy feeling yourself provoked to vein-popping anger against our Dear Rulers and their Enemedia-Pravda shills, watch tonight’s PBS two-hour Frontline documentar – oops: commercial! – for Luis Gutierrez & Open Borders & Amnesty & Perpetual Mass Third World Imminvasion.

    This is supposedly “Public Television” – you and I paid for this two-hour-long commercial contrived to persuade us to abolish ourselves and what’s left of what used to be our country.

  76. @Hello4023
    I think Trump should pivot to focus on the response to 9/11 and how it was all wrong:

    - The Bushes fired no one. No one at DoD/CIA/NSA lost their jobs. No one in Florida lost their job for allowing the bombers to get licenses
    - They did not fix the VISA program even though most of the terrorists were in the country on foreign VISAS
    - They did not take control of immigration and close the borders. In fact, Muslim immigration (and immigration in general) has proceeded and expanded. They did not secure the border
    - They did not attack Islamists who wanted nukes. Instead of attacking fundamentalist Iran, they attacked secular dictator Saddam in Iraq. That's led to ISIS and an Iran that could get nukes
    - They lied about Islam and allowed it to expand in the U.S. They called it a Religion of Peace and dramatically increased immigration from Muslim countries.

    The Bushes are a plague on the U.S. The opportunity cost to the GOP and the country for having them atop the party is staggering. We need Trump!!

    Another thing that was forgotten about 9/11 – One of the terrorists had their visa renewed about six months after the attack. It was briefly reported in the media, then swept under the table.

  77. OT: Here we go again: “Millennials and extended families could qualify for easier mortgages”

    “Quicken Loans, the nation’s largest online lender, and Freddie Mac have announced a partnership that is expected to make it possible for more individuals to buy homes with down payments as low as 3 percent.”

    Ergo: another rush of people “buying” homes they have no skin in if the market drops.

    “Currently, many don’t get loans because they don’t fit limited criteria. Under a pilot program, Quicken, which makes loans and sells them to Freddie…”

    Oh hey, Quicken Loans has nothing to lose because they’ll just be dumping all the risk onto the taxpayers.

    “…will be adapting lending for unique circumstances, like extended families that pool resources and live in a single home together…”

    IOW, loans to illegal immigrant families, who often pile 2-4 families into a home.

    “Further, mortgage finance firm Fannie Mae announced changes of its own, including cutting out bureaucratic headaches like submitting pay stubs.”

    Oh hey, the NINJA loan is back! Why bother proving you earn the money to buy a home when you can just pretend??? Also works real well for people who work off the books – i.e., illegal immigrants.

    “Since the housing bust in 2007 and related financial crisis, getting a loan has been difficult…”

    Perhaps it’s been difficulty because the last time it wasn’t difficult, right around 2007 (hey, what a coincidence!) the housing market crashed.

    My guess? This will lead to a massive crash three years into President Ted Cruz’s first term, for which he will of course get the blame.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    "My guess? This will lead to a massive crash three years into President Ted Cruz’s first term, for which he will of course get the blame."

    Maybe he should campaign against it and predict that it will cause another housing bust, probably sometime into the term of the next president.
  78. To amend my off-topic post above, here’s a picture of Quicken Loans founder and chairman Dan Gilbert.

  79. @Chris Mallory
    You are mostly right, except the whole Iran boogeyman is nothing but propaganda from Tel Aviv.

    Yeah, If they were that big a threat the Israelis would have already bombed that reactor to smithereens a few years back and they wouldn’t have asked anyone’s permission. One bomb ( maybe ) with no delivery system is no threat to an Israel with a few hundred bad boys and the planes, subs, and missiles to deliver them. Iran is only a threat to Sunnis in Iraq and with Russian help, Syria.

  80. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Wilkey
    OT: Here we go again: "Millennials and extended families could qualify for easier mortgages"

    "Quicken Loans, the nation's largest online lender, and Freddie Mac have announced a partnership that is expected to make it possible for more individuals to buy homes with down payments as low as 3 percent."

    Ergo: another rush of people "buying" homes they have no skin in if the market drops.

    "Currently, many don't get loans because they don't fit limited criteria. Under a pilot program, Quicken, which makes loans and sells them to Freddie..."

    Oh hey, Quicken Loans has nothing to lose because they'll just be dumping all the risk onto the taxpayers.

    "...will be adapting lending for unique circumstances, like extended families that pool resources and live in a single home together..."

    IOW, loans to illegal immigrant families, who often pile 2-4 families into a home.

    "Further, mortgage finance firm Fannie Mae announced changes of its own, including cutting out bureaucratic headaches like submitting pay stubs."

    Oh hey, the NINJA loan is back! Why bother proving you earn the money to buy a home when you can just pretend??? Also works real well for people who work off the books - i.e., illegal immigrants.

    "Since the housing bust in 2007 and related financial crisis, getting a loan has been difficult..."

    Perhaps it's been difficulty because the last time it wasn't difficult, right around 2007 (hey, what a coincidence!) the housing market crashed.

    My guess? This will lead to a massive crash three years into President Ted Cruz's first term, for which he will of course get the blame.

    “My guess? This will lead to a massive crash three years into President Ted Cruz’s first term, for which he will of course get the blame.”

    Maybe he should campaign against it and predict that it will cause another housing bust, probably sometime into the term of the next president.

  81. “Maybe he should campaign against it and predict that it will cause another housing bust, probably sometime into the term of the next president.”

    To campaign against it is to campaign against the ~40% or so of the population who cannot qualify for a home loan under traditional lending requirements, many of whom think he’s denying them something to which they’re entitled.

    Vote against it? Yes. Campaign on it? Hell no.

  82. @LondonBob
    http://prntly.com/blog/2015/10/17/shock-poll-trump-blue-collar-support-highest-since-fdr-in-1930s/

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/donald-trump-is-doomed-andor-invincible/

    Two articles you can get some good material out of.

    From your link:

    http://prntly.com/blog/2015/10/17/shock-poll-trump-blue-collar-support-highest-since-fdr-in-1930s/

    Trump’s appeal to blue collar workers is in the 60% range, higher than any candidate since Franklin Roosevelt won a massive landslide in 1936 on the support of the Blue Collar voter.

    Trump doesn’t do well with just the average “White Joe Sixpack,” he also gains a large share of black voters and even hispanics (25%, 37%)

    Wow. Amazing numbers for a republican. We really are witnessing a revolution in the making. Trump is the anti-Reagan in so many ways.

  83. @Clyde
    German official to Germans: If you don't like it, leave Germany: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=eab_1445033279#Vy0P35A0s5PTMhVk.99 (video)

    This is it. The moment an actual government official makes it clear. This is a total transformation. The end of rational law and rule by fiat and a population replacement. Germans told to leave Germany if they do not like the immigration policies of the Merkel government.
  84. @Lugash
    Are there any other ways to club Jeb or the GOPe with 9/11? I'm surprised that none of us tied the hijackers' Florida entry point to Jeb. Kudos for Trump for doing it. There seems to be a deep thinker beneath the bluster.

    Are there any other ways to club Jeb or the GOPe with 9/11? I’m surprised that none of us tied the hijackers’ Florida entry point to Jeb.

    Marvin Bush was was on the board of directors of a company providing electronic security for the World Trade Center, Dulles International Airport, and United Airlines.

  85. the fact that jeb bush can run for president of USA after he sabotaged the 2000 presidential election = the most fuck up thing I have ever witness so far in my entire life.

    also a 100% confirmation that this country has turned to absolute shit.

    GG no re.

  86. Steve,
    How big’s your core readership? The video you linked to has about 2400 views, although no doubt some or most of those are from before you linked to the video. You’re just not reaching enough people, not that it’s your fault.

  87. Steyn is reading:

    Nonetheless, like Niqab Girl, Clock Boy has taught us all a valuable lesson with his droll and spectacularly successful provocation. The US Department of Homeland Security’s slogan is “If You See Something, Say Something” – unless it’s something that might get you accused of Islamophobia, in which case keep it to yourself.

    Which is where we came in, on the morning of Tuesday September 11th 2001 at the US Airways First Class check-in desk:

    I got an instant chill when I looked at [Mohammed Atta]. I got this grip in my stomach and then, of course, I gave myself a politically correct slap…I thought, ‘My God, Michael, these are just a couple of Arab businessmen.’

    Clockmed has raised the bar on that one. My God, this is just a young Muslim male. So what if he’s ticking? Do I really want to be tied up in sensitivity-training hell for the next six months?

    http://www.steynonline.com/7244/the-clock-ticks-on

    linked also at instapundit.

  88. @European-American
    Not to pile on with the paranoia, but a good way to distract us from asking questions about roles and responsibilities in the attack was to start two massive wars. I guess that's obvious. But I sure fell for it.

    On the other hand... "Fight them there so we won't have to fight them at home" is an argument recently made by... the Russians to justify their Syrian campaign.


    Preemptive strike is how you fight terrorism – Putin on Syrian engagement
    "Radicals from many countries of the world, including Russia, have flocked to Iraq and Syria to join the terrorist group. They must be defeated there and not allowed to return to their home countries with battle experience and ideology adopted in the war zone, Putin believes."
    https://www.rt.com/news/317041-preemptive-strike-putin-terrorism/

     

    1. Russia borders the Middle East. We have oceans
    2. Indeed, I have long thought that Iraq and Afghanistan were perfect for fighting there instead of at home.. for the terrorists.

    – Just imagine, the Great Satan helpfully sending their soldiers and personnel over here to be attacked, with a kid gloves policy so that they are sitting ducks and like sheep. A perfect opportunity

    • Replies: @AnAnon
    "We have oceans" - the two best friends in the whole world.
  89. @Difference Maker
    1. Russia borders the Middle East. We have oceans
    2. Indeed, I have long thought that Iraq and Afghanistan were perfect for fighting there instead of at home.. for the terrorists.

    - Just imagine, the Great Satan helpfully sending their soldiers and personnel over here to be attacked, with a kid gloves policy so that they are sitting ducks and like sheep. A perfect opportunity

    “We have oceans” – the two best friends in the whole world.

  90. It is easy in hindsight to say Bush should not have done this or that.

    Back then a candidate who would have promised to radically increase racial profiling especially on Arabs or Muslims would have never gotten elected.

    Anyone can say those things now or complain about the high crime rate of blacks, but back then it was a different ” social climate” , no one dared talk much about those things.

    Yeah Bush was wrong, but not as wrong as most of you say he was.

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