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I am a big fan of President Trump’s Christmas greetings. We need a US president to wish Merry Christmas in this dark time. And by declaring his troops’ withdrawal from Syria, he almost earned the right to do it.

Do not forget: the anti-Christian wave that covered the world had began in the US. In this great country, Christmas had been outlawed; only Hanukkah lights were allowed in public spaces, while Christian signs and images of Bethlehem Manger had been forbidden.

Enemies of Christ and enemies of American people promoted some previously unheard-of Kwanza, as if the black Americans weren’t Christians but some pagans straight from African jungle. Truth must be said, the US blacks were known and famous for their spirituals, for their steady church attendance, for their love of Christ. So many troubles, criminality, drugs and degradation this community suffered because Christ’s enemies’ drive to de-Christianise them and the whole of American society. People are often unfair to the blacks: at first, they encouraged them to turn away from the church, and then, they blamed them for the consequent depredation.

They encouraged celebration of Hanukkah, the Jewish feast commemorating mass murder of … Jews who embraced Western culture and assimilated, by their fundamentalist and West-hating brethren. In a recent article, an American Jewish journalist admitted that he is revolted by the story and by the events, but he still celebrates it because he hates Christianity and does not want to give an inch in his struggle against Christ.

I refer to The Hypocrisy of Hanukkah by Michael David Lukas who has been planning to abandon the Jewish feast, but he decided not to do so because he needs something to offer his young daughter who is attracted to Santa Claus. As he puts it, “it’s all about beating Santa.”

“Santa” is an euphemism for Christ. He accepts Hanukkah he dislikes because he hates Christ even more. And one of the usual tricks is to say that Christ could not be born now, in the darkest time of the year, and it is just secondary use of some pagan practice. Their opponents say that Jesus could be born anytime, so by chance it occurred in late December.

But it is not by chance Christ was born in Judea, a day after the winter solstice, the darkest time of the year. It is not by chance He was born in the family of Palestinian refugees from Galilee, driven by the army to the caves at the edge of the desert.

The Son of Man could be born anywhere on earth, and He would be received with great glory. Instead, he chose the darkest time and the darkest place, and the lowest position there is. He came as light comes to where and when it was most needed.

His birth in Palestine is sometimes interpreted as a sign of special election of the people he was born amongst. The Jews were chosen as worthy to give birth to Christ, so preach Evangelical Zionists in their drive to support Israel. Another Zionist outlet, Jews for Jesus, try to appropriate Christ as their coreligionist and a fellow Jew, a Saviour for the Jews. A whole PR industry promotes an idea of Jesus as a Jewish Rabbi, and of the necessity for Christians to give tribute to Jews.

But it is possible to read the story in a different light: Jesus chose to be born in the darkest time, in the darkest place, among people possessed by the darkest ideas. The Jewish paradigm of that time (as now) was a system of double morals, of mutual support combined with disregard for outsiders, of inward love and outward enmity. Christ chose to be born here as He knew: this idea is the most dangerous that mankind faces, and it has to be taken on.

The tradition tells, after His death, He descended to the netherworld and saved the souls of the just. It is called Harrowing Hell, and a visual presentation of this deed can be found in many churches, for instance, in the small apse of the St Saviour monastery of Chora in Constantinople/Istanbul. His birth in Herodian Judea under Pharisee control was a prefiguration of His descent to Hell. He came to the worst place and saved the souls of the just, even of Adam and Eve. A short three hundred years after His birth, His idea of the brotherhood of man had won the day. Alas, the forces of darkness were not totally defeated.

This idea of supremacy, of inequality, of being good to your kin and awful to the rest, is again the biggest danger mankind faces now, two thousand years later, when the world has made a complete circle and came back to the same place. Bethlehem again bewails its innocents; a newer, better-equipped version of King Herod rules in Jerusalem; the doctrine of double morality again spans the earth and captures the great empires.

Still, one finds hope the day after the solstice: the darkest time is already behind us. Be merry!

 

Yuletide Controversy

Christmas greetings are supposed to be pretty non-controversial stuff, but not anymore. The date of Nativity caused a heated dispute among my friends and readers. Lane, from Miami wrote, “it was my understanding that the actual time of Christ’s birth was in September”. Shanaz from Saudi Arabia was of a different mind: ‘Jesus was born in April; check it out’. Prof John Williams from Virginia explained: ‘You may be aware that most historians believe that Jesus must have been born in September, under the sign of the Virgin. The Church moved his “official birthday” to just after the shortest day of the year in order to emphasize that he was the Light of the World’. And Bryce from Atlanta offered another date: “most scholars will agree that Jesus was born in mid-late October (a kindred Libran)”.

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Such variety of proposed dates, and all of them ‘actual’, and agreed by ‘most experts’! Is it a meaningful controversy? Well, up to a point. There isn’t and can’t be any new historical knowledge about the Nativity that was not available to, say, St Jerome of Bethlehem or Eusebius of Caesarea. As centuries and millennia pass by, we do not learn more about these times, we just forget. People of Bethlehem are not likely to remember the particulars of the birth of a humble refugee from Galilee. The church decided on the date on the basis of the best data available at the time. The persons who decided were men of great faith, curiosity, desire to establish true facts, and I see no reason to doubt their decision.

Could the Church move his birthday in order to emphasize that he was the Light of the World? Before replying to this question, I shall quote an amusing booklet published in the second half of the 19th century under the title Napoleon as a Solar Myth. The author ‘proves’, tongue-in-cheek, that Napoleon never existed, but was just a new version of the Solar Myth, and his 12 marshals were, yes, you guessed it, twelve months or signs of Zodiac. In the same vein, one could argue that Sabbatai Zevi, the great Jewish prophet of the 17th century, was an invention, as he was born and died on the 9th day of Ab, the day of the Destruction of the Temple. Many other important men were born on auspicious dates. Why would not Christ be born on such a day?

Doubt of the Nativity date obscures a greater doubt, the doubt of divinity, doubt of predestination, doubt of God’s existence. If God exists, and if He arranged for the Star to announce the coming of Christ, is it strange that Christ would be born on a day of great importance to all mankind? No, it would be logical. The birth of the Son of God was a cosmic event, and it would be expected to happen on a special day. As He was the Light of the World, He was born after the winter solstice. Even more important, the darkest time of the year hints to the darkest place on earth. Jerusalem was the focal point of the system of double morals, of inward love and outward enmity. Christ chose to be born here as He felt: this idea is the most dangerous that mankind faces, and it has to be taken on.

This connection is overlooked by the Evangelical Zionists, who misunderstand His birth in Palestine as a sign of special election of the people He was born amongst. The Jews were chosen as worthy to give birth to Christ, they preach. One could think Christ was born in purple. The date is especially relevant as it confirms what we know: He was born in the Heart of the Darkness.

If you doubt Christ, then it makes sense to doubt the cosmically significant date of Nativity. And then you can find yourself on a wrong side of the frontline that goes through New York and Bethlehem, as the struggle is far from over.

The Washington Times (28.11.01) published an interesting article called ‘Calendars for Advent appear more secularised’. A newspaper reporter visited a few bookshops in the US, from Barnes and Noble to Borders, and found that the Advent calendars had dropped the Nativity. There are mice, bunnies, Santa Claus, bears, the ‘Nutcracker’, but no Bethlehem, no Nativity. ‘The stores do not want to offend any non-Christian shoppers’, speculates an interviewee.

Who are those ‘non-Christians’? Surely not Muslims, who commemorate the Nativity of Christ as much as anybody, and who are anyway disfavoured in the US. There are not too many Neo-Pagans, either. So, why could they not write in a less-oblique way, ‘the shop owners feel the Jews do not want to see anything connected to Christ’? Probably because it would be a painful truth.

The Orthodox Jews have even a special routine for Christmas. The preferred activities are cutting toilet paper for the forthcoming month and suchlike, reported the local Jerusalem newspaper Kol Ha-Ir. Non-religious Jews have forgotten the reason why, but still keep fighting Christ and Christianity.

Forward[1]JANUARY 10, 2003, the most progressive Jewish American newspaper, dedicated a long article to Jewish Christmas customs. It refers to ‘the traditional Eastern European Jewish custom of playing cards on Christmas Eve’ and explains it: ‘The most precious commandment for religious Jews is learning Torah…. The only time Jews would not learn was at times of personal or communal mourning — and on Nitlnacht. There would be no learning to bring honour and merit to the one that was born on that night (i.e. to Jesus Christ)’.

Jews would not say ‘Christmas’. “Punning derogatorily in different languages on Christian words for this holiday, it turns out, was indeed a time-honoured (!) Jewish practice. For instance, Nitlnacht (a pun on nit, nothing, or on Hebrew nitleh, “the hanged one,”), Kratzmakh, (a made-up Yiddish word that sounds like “Scratch-me”), Taluy-nakht, “the night of the hanged man”, blinde nakht, “Blind Night” (a pun based on the Ukrainian, in which sviatyi vechir, “sacred evening,” was turned by Jews into slipyi vechir, “blind evening”), Khvoristvo (a pun on Ukrainian rizdvo, “Christmas,” and Belorussian khvori, “sick.”). “Some Yiddish speakers in Western Poland called Christmas beyz-geboyrenish, “Badly Born,” playing on Polish Boze Narodzenie, “Divine Birth.”

The Forward concludes: “It’s clear, I think, why Christmas should have inspired so many Jewish puns. It was a day that Jews had an instinctive distaste for, it being the holiday on which Christians celebrated the incarnation of God in human form of all Christian beliefs, the one to strike the Jewish mind as the most absurd and repugnant.” Repugnant, no less!

The Washington Times quotes Patrick Scully of the Catholic League: ‘We witness neutering of Christmas … Christmas suffered a direct hit from this secularisation. One is allowed to see symbolism in Kwanza, while a Nativity scene may mean a battle with the (heavily Jewish) ACLU’. As the Christians of the US prefer to avoid battle with the ACLU, Israelis can battle the besieged Bethlehem with greater ease, but who can say, which front of this battle is the more important one?

The American Jewish Committee, the ADL and other major Jewish supremacist organizations have worked relentlessly to forbid the singing of Christmas carols in schools and public institutions. They have made sure that Nativity scenes and Christian symbols are removed from community property, but they have worked for and even received court approval for Jewish Menorahs on public property.

Take for instance a recent ADL guide for Jewish parents in their campaign against Christmas in public schools, called: Religious Issues in Your Child’s Public School: A Guide for Jewish Parents, available on the ADL Website.

Q. What is excessive when it comes to Christmas decorations on handouts and in the classroom?

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A. First, it is important to note that while Christmas trees, Santas, wreaths, wrapped gifts, and reindeer are commonly used as Christmas decorations or symbols, the courts have decided that they are secular symbols of the season. Nevertheless, their inordinate usage is inappropriate. Talk to the teacher about the plethora of Christmas decorations on the homework assignments. Explain that while you understand that displaying such graphics on workbook assignments is legal, such excessive use makes you and your child feel uncomfortable. Suggest alternative winter decorations, including snow flakes, gingerbread houses, and mittens that may be more inclusive.

Q. Is it appropriate for teachers to hold Christmas parties and to allow those who don’t observe to be excused?

A. The students are being told, in effect, “Come to a fun party with gifts, food, and games, or go to the library for the afternoon”. While legal, this party is insensitive to those students who do not celebrate Christmas. With a few adjustments, this party can be a positive experience for all of the students. Instead of celebrating Christmas, the party can celebrate the winter season or a variety of holidays. Finally, since receiving gifts from Santa Claus is a Christian tradition, it is inappropriate in the public-school classroom”.

Attempts to sow doubts about Christ are regularly made by some Jewish scholars, who usually try to downgrade Him. If he existed, they claim, he surely was just an ordinary bloke, a vagrant teacher from Galilee, who was born anywhere but in Bethlehem, anytime but on an auspicious date, and grew up anywhere but in Nazareth. If he existed he surely did not care about Goyim, non-Jews, they say. Why indeed would a good Jewish Rabbi care about the rest of mankind? (This is the underlying idea of the book of Hiyam Maccobi, for instance, where the Jewish nationalist writer claims Christ was a Jewish extreme nationalist, a Rabbi Kahane of his day). For Jewish scholars, media-owners, opinion-makers, the fight against Christ was and remains an important part of the agenda, and denial of Nativity is a weapon in this struggle. It is not the only weapon, and I shall give you an example.

The Washington Post printed in its last Easter edition on the first page (not far from its usual glorification of Israel) a feature called ‘The Face of Christ’, containing a police-style e-fit. It showed a rather crude and brutish face of a man, with low forehead, darkish skin, eyes expressive of cunning, a type of lowly menial laborer. It bore the caption, ‘Face of Christ’. Bold headlines advised the reader that now the latest tools of science were used in order to find out how Jesus Christ looked, on the basis of some skulls found in Jerusalem. Well, 90 p.c. of the readership does not go beyond the bold headlines, into the fine print, and they would come away with the feeling that in fact, the skull of Jesus was discovered, and he turned out to be quite an unpleasant fellow.

Only careful perusal of the feature article reveals that the face is a reconstruction of a Jewish contemporary of Christ, based on a few skulls found in Palestine. The authors could call the brutish e-fit, ‘The High Priest of Jews’. They could remain neutral and unbiased and call the e-fit ‘a face of a Jewish (?) contemporary of Christ’, but they preferred the misleading legend ‘Face of Christ’, with its implication that Christ actually looked like a low criminal.

With absolutely the same license, they could make a composite photo of a few women from the local old folks’ home and publish it as ‘the face of Marilyn Monroe’. But then, this newspaper has its own agenda. On this agenda, fighting Christ has higher priority than debunking Marilyn Monroe. And this newspaper does not stand alone, but i liaises with other media outlets all over the US, Canada, England. The picture of ‘the face of Christ’ appeared in all of them, and afterwards, probably, in every major newspaper, as who would miss such a sensation?

The struggle against Christianity and Christ is the raison d’être of Judaism, as Christ symbolises the end of Jewish chosen-ness. We are truly blessed that nowadays, the Jewish war against Christ is expressed just in the siege of Bethlehem and a ban on Christ in ‘Christmas’.

December 2002-2018

 

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[1] JANUARY 10, 2003

 
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  1. Biff says:

    When Saint Nicholas became more popular than Jesus(especially with children) a tool was invented to drown out my favored holiday – Saint Nicholas Day, 6 of December.

    https://www.britannica.com/topic/Saint-Nicholas-Day

  2. Kwanzaa has nothing to do with christ pro or contra. Kwanzaa was the brainchild of COINTELPRO agent Ron Karenga, and it had a specific objective: to complement violent repression of black internationalism by offering sentimental ethnicity as a facile substitute for struggle. Kwanzaa was designed to give the jigs a hokey Disney ethnicity of nostalgia for the old country, like the wops and polaks had, back in the bygone days when you weren’t raised as livestock or lynched or forced to work in penal institutions. And criminality and drugs were not some spiritual malaise but an explicit government policy decision to associate black nationalism with drugs and criminalize the drugs. That same approach was also applied to the antiwar movement. It solved the government’s first-amendment problem by letting them attack protected political speech.

    Hanukkah, on the other hand, is straightforward syncretism. For example, Christian proselytizers practiced syncretism by putting saint heads in the traditional niches Celts used to hold the severed heads of vanquished tribesmen. When Jews of the priestly caste needed a winter-solstice festival, they naturally chose one that evoked that warm Jewish feeling of exterminating subhuman hordes of everybody else.

    Just goes to show you, don’t overthink the holy stuff.

  3. pensword says:

    Mr. Shamir,

    I have always been very fond of your writing, particularly when you take aim at the enemies of Jesus ‘alaihis-salaam. I’ve often envisioned discussing some of the fundamental dogmatic differences between you and me (a fundamentalist orthodox muslim), though I understand why it might be preferable to forego such dialogue given a common interest that demands much effort.

    May God inundate you with His blessings this Christmas season.

    • Replies: @israel shamir
  4. This entire article sounds like a Muslim Imam’s Friday sermon ( especially the type coming out of the Tableegh Jamaat in South Africa), when we as a minority try and preserve our values here in Christian South Africa.

    The analogy ad metaphors used for the Macabees and the love thyself but be wary of the outsiders, is what is used to control populations and thier thoughts as well as preserve their cultures and it allows for double standards. We saw this in Apartheid and now again with the new Government in SA.

    Finally, the dogma that is being preeched, is an interpreatation that is very similar to the last 2-3 versus from Surah Fatiha in the Quran. In this message, it refers to, not be like the extremists from amng the Jews and the Christians, but to follow a middle path – you have to read the deep interpretation to get this out as the literal one, will leave you lost. But its a message that i have heard many times before.

    Enjoy the holidays from Sunny South Africa.

  5. @pensword

    I hope we shall have an occasion to discuss the differences and the similarities, inshallah!

  6. Anonymous[428] • Disclaimer says:

    In Dante’s Divine Comedy, both Jews and Muslims are in Hell.

    Merry CHRISTmas to all!!

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Iris
  7. CalDre says:

    The persons who decided were men of great faith, curiosity, desire to establish true facts, and I see no reason to doubt their decision.

    What about the theory it was moved to December 25 for evangelical purposes? In particular, many pagan societies celebrated the winter solstice (also with pine trees and ornaments), and Christmas was moved to that day to usurp the festive day for the benefit of the ruling religious caste, i.e., to attract more followers and permit them to engage in the same practices they engaged in prior to being indoctrinated with Christian dogma to facilitate the conversion?

    • Agree: NoseytheDuke
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  8. Sabbatai Zevi was not an invention but he was hardly a “great Jewish Prophet of the 17th century.” He was exactly, purely and simply, what could be called an “Antichrist,” or the prophet of evil. He said that what is forbidden in religious law is legal and even required and what is required is forbidden. You cannot get more explicit than that. Orgies were part of his rites. Hassidism is a product of Sabbatianism which is perhaps why Mr Shamir has such a wacky idea of who Sabbatai Zevi was, although he must know who Jakob Frank was. Frank led 25,000 Sabbatian Jews to convert to Catholicism in Poland around 1765. They were given titles of nobility under Polish law.

    As for the 25th of December it was the “Day of Mithra” in Mithraism which was the religion of the Roman army. The third day after the winter solstice was the day of Mithra’s birth as a Sun god. Also, Sunday was Mithra’s Day of the Week. Constantine was a Mithraist. He made Sunday the ceremonial day of the week in the Roman empire. What his soldiers had on their shields and flags at the Battle of the Mulvian Bridge in 312 AD was the Chi Rho, a Mithraist symbol. His adversary, Maxentius was also a Mithraist and he had another Mithraist symbol on his shield, the Invincible Sun. The “Invincible Sun” is now the rays behind the head of the Statue of Liberty. Freemasons, you know, were behind the founding of the United States. In the case of Constantine, he was the Emperor, and the Christian Bishops working on the Emperor decided it was easier to join them than to fight them, and so they went along with Constantine. Why not, it was a good fit. So, the Christians made the Mithraic Chi-Rho the coat of arms of the Pope, and called it a kind of cross which it certainly was not. The Orb and Scepter also come from Mithraism, and the White Horse. (Jesus rides a humble donkey, doesn’t he?)

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  9. tac says:

    Christmas Greetings Goyim! A nice parody made by our Jewish allies just in time for this Christmas:

    • Replies: @Biff
  10. wayfarer says:

    Urantia Papers are a spiritual and philosophical book. The authorship remains a matter of speculation.

    Paper 119 – The Bestowals of Christ Michael
    Paper 120 – The Bestowal of Michael on Urantia
    Paper 121 – The Times of Michael’s Bestowal
    Paper 122 – Birth and Infancy of Jesus
    Paper 123 – The Early Childhood of Jesus
    Paper 124 – The Later Childhood of Jesus
    Paper 125 – Jesus at Jerusalem
    Paper 126 – The Two Crucial Years
    Paper 127 – The Adolescent Years
    Paper 128 – Jesus’ Early Manhood
    Paper 129 – The Later Adult Life of Jesus
    Paper 130 – On the Way to Rome

    source: https://www.urantia.org/urantia-book/read-urantia-book-online

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  11. Durruti says:

    The Good do not always win. But they retain their Honor, and their Spirit Lives…

    But if the Good surrender to evil, they lose their Soul.

    Our Love of Our Country helps us to understand:

    If our attaining Liberty was easy, we would not appreciate it, or understand its value.

    As John F. Kennedy said,

    “We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard

    It is hard, because the Oligarchs stand in our way. But we must “do the other things.”

    For Our American Republic!

    Merry Christmas!

    God Bless All!

  12. renfro says:

    Jesus was born Dec 25
    Tell everyone Happy Jesus Day
    I do not give a F about ADL’s Jewish Christmas sensitivities.

  13. The struggle against Christianity and Christ is the raison d’être of Judaism, as Christ symbolises the end of Jewish chosen-ness.

    Lewis Mumford, ‘The city in history, Its origins, its transformations and its prospects’, London, 1991, 1961 writes about judaism that the object of the jewish rules is isolation and maximum population growth.
    Eating together is great for social contacts, jews cannot eat together with non jews.

    If Moses existed, no idea, if Jesus existed, I doubt it.
    In any case, christianity undermined judaism, if christianity was created for this purpose, not impossible.
    IF, IF, christianity was created to destroy jewish society, as now migration seems to have as object the destruction of the European cultures, I suppose it was not foreseen that christianity would also destroy the Roman empire.

    Soros, in my opinion, tries to destroy the European cultures, if so, what ideas he has about the long term consequences for jews, if he has any, I wonder.

    Historians agree that monotheism was created in order to give rulers legitimacy.

    Monotheism is intolerant, there is but one god.
    In my opinion judaism is the most intolerant, then comes Islam, recognises the Peoples of the Book, then christianity.
    James Parkes, ‘The Conflict of the Church and the Synagogue, A Study in the Origins of Antisemitism’, New York 1974 shows jewish hostility to christianity, in the first five centuries, christianity was mainly concerned with converting jews to the one real faith.
    Not, of course, that there was no hostility from the christian side, both sides attacked and massacred each other, burned holy buildings, churche and synagogues.

    Until reading the mentioned book I did not realise the intensity of the mutual hostilities.
    Ghetto’s were the result.

    In the 19th century jews got equal rights, as ‘From prejudice to destruction’, Jacob Katz, 1980, Cambridge MA writes, the expectation was that judaism would disappear through assimilation.
    The opposite was the case, jews became more visible and powerful, as Katz writes: economic cooperation, intermarrriage.

    Two book written by jews in defence of jews confirm what Katz writes
    ‘Christianity and the Holocaust of the Hungarian Jewry’, Moshe Y Herclz, 1993 New York University press
    Ismar Schorsch, ‘Jewish Reactions to German Anti-Semitism, 1870 – 1914’, New York 1972
    In my opinion the same circumstances, jews not realising that their success in society was seen by non jews as living under foreign rule.

    This, in my opinion, is the essential jewish problem, they do not understand that their success is seen by non jews as undesirable.
    Soros seems to regret that he has so many enemies, the thought does not seem to cross his mind that he himself created and creates these enemies.

    How much significance this has, I do not know, but the number of antisemitic incidents among the Yellow Vests surprises me.

    Jewish sociologist Stephen Steinlight showed, in my opinion, insight when he wrote that immigration from the south was a threat to USA jewry, these immigrants see USA jews just as rich Americans, ‘these immigrants know nothing about the holocaust’.
    Steinlight was dismissed, as far as I know, his anti migration views were, I suppose, contrary to Democratic policy.

    I stated this here before, the present USA reminds me of the Weimar Republic, the Germany ran by jews.
    We all know what happened.

    One more thing, Christmas is the pagan mid winter festivity, three or so days after the shortest day, then it can be seen that the day is longer, with a green tree, hope for the next harvest.
    Christianity just kidnapped the festivity.

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  14. @ploni almoni

    Jesus riding a humble donkey, in the Roman empire jews were forbidden to ride horses, though not always, and everywhere,

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  15. Biff says:
    @tac

    Festavus for the rest of us – a time to air our differences.

    “Now I got a few problems with you people!”

  16. yurivku says:

    Well Mr. Shamir, thank you for your position, I got to know much more about Jews from your articles.
    And this knowledge clears a lot in their attempts to destroy any society they live in.

    Just about Nativity date – all Christians aggre it’s 25th of December. But as you well know in Russian Orthodox Church (and some others) it’s 7th of January which is 25th of Dec by Yulian calendar.

    Probably it’s useless to argue which date is correct, but it’s clear they are different.

    May be it’s not too important in contrary to understanding of the importance of this event to mankind.

  17. Anon21 says:

    Good article, Israel. Thanks, and Merry Christmas!

  18. Lin says:

    As a Christian of alternative conviction, on the occasion of the birthday anniversary of Jesus, I would like to point out something deliberately perverted by the average priests or pastors:
    (BTW,I was amazed that many Christians don’t know what’s the Old Testament name of Jesus)
    1)Jesus didn’t form then the ‘new’ religion of Christianity;He was a jew and a great moral teacher. (post-crucification)Christanity was established by his disciples.
    2)Who were responsible for the crucification of Jesus?
    Judae was in turmoil. It was under Roman occupation(imagine Saudi Arabia without oil but occupied by US troops) and King Herod was said to be immoral. Religious nationalism was in vogue and certain % of the nationalists were ‘zeolots’ with violent tendency, much like the ISIS in early 21st century.
    Jesus managed to draw a big following to his moral credits
    Here’re the 3 parties involved:
    a)The vassal jewish king Herod, her sexy step daughter Salome…and the Pharisee theocrazy.
    They definitely felt threatened by Jesus’s massive following. But how to deal with Jesus of Nazareth? Beheading Jesus and put his head on a platter post Salome’s dance? Probably wouldn’t work this time imagining the risk of massive riots. Now here came a bunch of useful fanatics..
    b) The jewish nationalists(zeolots included)saw great potential in Jesus and wanted to rally around him to form a national liberation movement to kick out Herod and his roman protectors. Jesus himself definitely was pro-jewish independence but of the non-volatile type. How to make Jesus looked more legitimate? The jewish nationalists heaped on him 2 titles:
    –Son of God….If taken literally, it’s blasphemy… seriously enough to be executed by stoning.
    –‘Messiah’…The average jew can tell you back in those days in Judae,’Messiah’ meant the ‘chosen one’ and it was the title of the Jewish king, not ‘saviour’ as evangelic pastors want you to believe.
    (Jesus never explicitedly admitted to those titles; seems he also didn’t reject them bluntly in order not to dampen his crowd)
    But still Jesus’s followers were too numerous to handle…Now they found the executioner…
    c)The roman governor—So the Pharisees arrested Jesus and brough him to the audience of the roman governor Pontius Pilate and said:”Here’s the person claimed to be the ‘king of the jews'(ie messiah)”. Jesus was arrested on the charge of treason/usurpation against the romans and vassal king Herod. (Jesus plainly said his ‘kingdom’ was not of this earth or he had no political ambition.)
    Pontius Pilate knew that was bullshit and it was just internal jewish power struggle but neverthe less, to placate the jewish king and his Pharisees, he ordered jesus to be crucified. Crucification was the death penalty reserved for enemies of Rome, like Spartacus.
    ………….
    To conclude, those disciples/early ‘christians’ were directly or indirectly responsible for the crucification of Jesus and they were almost as quilty as King Herod, his sexy step daughter Salome and the Pharisees.
    The Romans were just reluntant executioner, no more

  19. Che Guava says:

    Dear Mr. Shamir,

    That is a good article. Please read my reply. In Japan, most people think that Christmas day is on the 24th.

    As a Christian, it is important to me, but also a normal working day. Churches tend to have Christmas mass or services on Christmas Eve.

    This seem to be breaking down, I was at one convenience shop after work where they had one of the worst Christmas songs of all time still on rotation ‘Wonderful Christmastime’.

    Is your calendar Julian or Gregorian? I ask from simple curiosity, I have never been to a service at the main Orthodox church here, for some years I thought it was a fake church for weddings (a common thing here), but I saw a man dressed as an Orthodox priest in training on the train, I thought it was costume play, but I asked him directly ‘Are you in training or a priest’, the former at the time, then ‘Is that a real church or a wedding church?’, reply ‘It is a real church’, so early next year, I should go for the service that I was missing this year by following the Julian calendar.

    In Japan. lighting displays end on one from among that date, on New Year’s Eve, at the end of winter in the traditional calendar, or in some places where they are a tourist attraction, when early spring and warm daytime temperatures are obvious.

    BTW, the iSteve blog on this site has a good post by Mr. Sailer (well, several), that were giving a good laugh. The Twelve Days of Christmas one, after I read the article at the link, LOL. It is a must-read (all respect to Mr. Sailer, but the linked article is the key to comedy).

    Well, Merry Gregorian Christmas to thee

    d(⌒ー⌒)!

  20. You forgot to mention the practice of devouring Chinese food on Nitlnacht. And what is this about Sabbatai Zevi being a great prophet? Wasn’t he driven out of town after flimflaming his followers, only to be forcefully converted to Islam by the Soldan of Constantinople? Anyway, merry Christmas, Israel!

  21. M Edward says:

    Yule is a Scandinavian celebration commemorating the winter solstice. When the days will start to become longer and the anticipated return of spring. It has nothing to do with ‘Jesus’.

    The Scandinavian peoples were forced to convert to Christianity beginning with Charlemagne in the 8th and 9th centuries . Regular slaughter of those whom would dare continue the so-called ‘pagan’ rituals was relentless. Christianity was an authoritarian mob that was cruel and despotic.

    Peace and good will toward men my ass !

    Over time good people would eventually observe “Christian” ‘holidays’ (holy days)… and were good people of high integrity, but that had nothing to do with whether they were ‘Christian’ or not. They were good people not because of Christianity, but in spite of it.

    I’m of Danish descent and I hate religion.

    So save the bullsh*t stories of ‘Yuletide’ whatever, and just move along.

  22. Avery says:
    @M Edward

    {Christianity was an authoritarian mob that was cruel and despotic.}
    {I’m of Danish descent and I hate religion.}

    No problem: as soon as Islam supplants Christianity in all of Scandinavia, there be will peace and harmony there for all time. You won’t have to worry about any Christian so-called ‘cruel and despotic authoritarian mobs’.

    • Replies: @M Edward
  23. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    where is he now? is he in limbo or actually in hell ?

  24. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @M Edward

    very interesting observation . But religion is a tool It depends on who is using it .

    People are sensitive because they don’t have the strength on defend their own existence on their own, through their own conviction and abilities to pick and choose
    . They tap into religion or past of the ancestors or national icon for support and succor.
    . Most of the folks in the world is just that – sheep, weak, waiting to be validated.

  25. M Edward says:
    @Avery

    It’s long past time to wipe Islam from the face of the earth….. That will come soon enough.

    • Replies: @renfro
    , @anon
  26. @Che Guava

    I celebrate this Christmas in Sweden, and the Swedes do it on Dec 24, indeed. They prefer to celebrate the Eves: the Eve of Midsommar, the Eve of Christmas and the eve of Easter. I have no problem with it, as I do as Palestinian Christians do: they celebrate Christmas like the West, and Easter like the East. Easter is the most important feast for the East Orthodox, while Nativity is more important for the West, whether Catholic or Lutheran. As for Japan, I hardly ever visited a church in Japan, but I went to many jinjas and monasteries. It is better to go to the predominant church of the land, whether it is Catholic or Buddhist, instead of praying with foreigners. So if you want to experience Orthodox service, the nearest for you is Nakhodka; Mt Athos is wonderful, too.

  27. mcohen says:

    Christmas is a great holiday even though i do not celebrate it.We exchange gifts with the neighbours and since it is a public holiday we have a day off.In our family we have a great lunch and celebrate family day.
    Relegion is a useful social institution but shines brightest in the future.Dwell on the history and origins and the spirit is lost.
    The light that guides is ahead of us.Only the future is of real importance.That is when the gift of time is most important.
    Time is luck goes the chinese proverb
    Time to heal,time to change.

    Wrote this for a friend going through hard times

    I can’t help you with your sorrow
    I can only wish you a happy tomorrow
    When the cards begin to fall
    Life is like a spinning ball
    Round and round you go
    Where you never know
    When your number comes up
    Drink deep from the winners cup.
    Thats right my friend
    Drink deep from the winners cup.

    I cant help you with your hate
    I can only say its never too late
    To forgive and forget
    Not to be caught in that net
    Time will heal all wounds so walk away
    Tomorrow is another day
    You got to get up
    Drink deep from the loving cup
    Thats right my friend
    Drink deep from the loving cup

    Mcohen 2018

  28. Happy x-anuka and x-madan and x-vruz guys. I find Jesus to be born from Palestinian refugees hilarious. It really does not matter when christ was born if ever. We celebrate both Christmases.

  29. @jilles dykstra

    The operative condition here is the Bible and Zachariah 9:9

    Rejoice greatly, Daughter Zion! Shout, Daughter Jerusalem! See, your king comes to you, righteous and victorious, lowly and riding on a donkey, on a colt, the foal of a donkey.

    On the other hand the Archangel Michael is pictured with a sword in his hand and an open book on a white horse not because of Roman law as it pertains to angels, but because of the influence of Mithraism. Because of this Christian iconography, Bolsjewistische propaganda in 1920 created a poster with a figure on a red horse with wings like Pegasus, a commissar on the horse with an open book, and it said: “literacy is the path to Communism.”

  30. anon[805] • Disclaimer says:

    To all you damned Jew-worshipers, it’s so very appropriate to wish you a…

    • Replies: @Cleburne
  31. @M Edward

    Your story of persecution makes you a sort of “Holocaust Survivor,” doesn’t it.

  32. @Che Guava

    Holy Resurrection Cathedral (復活大聖堂 fukkatsu daiseidō), in Chiyoda, Tokyo, is the main cathedral of the Japanese Orthodox Church. It is also known as Nikorai-do (ニコライ), from Saint Nicholas, Equal-to-the-Apostles, Archbishop of Japan, born Ivan Dimitrovich Kasatkin, a Russian Orthodox priest, monk, and bishop who introduced the Russian Orthodox Church to Japan in the late 19th century.

    In the Semitic lunar calendar the day runs from sunset to sunset, so the evening of the 24th is also the 25th. And when people speak in years they mean lunar years.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  33. renfro says:
    @M Edward

    I’m of Danish descent and I hate religion.

    So save the bullsh*t stories of ‘Yuletide’ whatever, and just move along.

    Well since you are totally outnumbered by people who believe in something maybe you should be the one to move on.

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
  34. renfro says:
    @M Edward

    It’s long past time to wipe Islam from the face of the earth….. That will come soon enough.

    Well there are 1.2 billion Muslims and Arabs so you better get busy…..there will probably be more by the time you are dead.

  35. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @M Edward

    Hello brain dead we did try few times didn’t work Now you might have to ask Africans or Philippine to try .

  36. Iris says:
    @Anonymous

    Dante’s ” Divine Comedy” was unequivocally and undoubtedly inspired by Islam.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_Asín_Palacios

  37. Dacian says:
    @M Edward

    Very well said, Edward. Down with ALL religions and superstitions! But people, even if educated, are slaves of their own idols.

    In my mind, most of humanity would fit in at the mental asylum. If you “believe” that your back is made of glass, you would be taken to the asylum, but if you profess to “believe” in angels on your shoulder you are considered a man of integrity and trustworthy.

    This is our holy humanity. A bunch of promiscuous apes, starting with the Jews, Christians, Muslims, you name it.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  38. Waitemata says:

    A few years ago at a Church of England midnight Christmas service I attended the congregation was told that as Jesus was born during the reign of Herod, this event must have taken place sometime before BCE as Herod died in 4BCE. The Christmas service continued, carols were sung, incense was overwhelming, wafers and wine were taken.
    Since then, having read more about the origins of Christianity and looked at translations of The Dead Sea Scrolls especially the War Scroll in all its nastiness and found out more about the library of Gnostic texts also found after WWII near the village of Nag Hammadi in upper Egypt my lingering interest in Abrahamic religious traditions has disappeared. Human beings have devotional feelings and responses to the sense of the sacred but these have been, in my opinion, warped by the sick peculiarities of Abrahamic traditions.

    • Agree: RobinG, Kratoklastes
    • Replies: @bjondo
  39. log says: • Website

    Hidden in Plain Sight
    The Original Faith of Jesus Christ

    Abstract: The Sermon on the Mount constitutes the original faith of Jesus Christ. The primary significance of the Book of Mormon is that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God, and that every human being must come to Him by really doing what He says to do in the Sermon. The purpose of the Sermon is to resolve all interpersonal conflict.

    [MORE]

    The Original Faith

    The things in the New Testament which Jesus taught by His own mouth may be roughly divided into the following categories:
    1. declarations of His identity and authority,
    2, exhortations to believe on Him,
    3, the Sermon on the Mount,
    4, parables,
    5. and responses to various statements, questions, or challenges.
    This way of dividing up the things Jesus taught by His own mouth in the New Testament does not include everything Jesus said, but it covers enough to give an answer to the following question: “What was Jesus telling people to do?” What was the faith His followers were to practice? When the question is put that way, one of these things is not like the others. The Sermon on the Mount is the doctrine He taught.1 This is the original faith which Jesus Christ commanded His apostles to teach to all nations.2

    The Significance of the Book of Mormon

    Re-establishing the original faith of Jesus Christ is the purpose of the Book of Mormon. From its title page, we read that the Book of Mormon is written “to the convincing of the Jew and Gentile that Jesus is the Christ, the Eternal God, manifesting himself unto all nations[.]” And in 1 Nephi 13, where we read about the Gentiles and things having been taken out of the record of the twelve apostles of the Lamb before it went out to all nations, we find this.

    And the angel spake unto me, saying:
    1. These last records, which thou hast seen among the Gentiles, shall establish the truth of the first, which are of the twelve apostles of the Lamb,
    2. and shall make known the plain and precious things which have been taken away from them;
    3. and shall make known to all kindreds, tongues, and people, that the Lamb of God is the Son of the Eternal Father, and the Savior of the world;
    4. and that all men must come unto him, or they cannot be saved.
    5. And they must come according to the words which shall be established by the mouth of the Lamb;
    6. and the words of the Lamb shall be made known in the records of thy seed, as well as in the records of the twelve apostles of the Lamb;
    7. wherefore they both shall be established in one; for there is one God and one Shepherd over all the earth.3

    The words established by the mouth of the Lamb, and made known in the records of Nephi’s seed, as well as in the records of the twelve apostles of the Lamb, is the Sermon.4 The primary significance of the Book of Mormon therefore is that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God, and that every human being must come unto Him by really doing what He says to do in the Sermon. This brings us to the purpose of the Sermon.

    The Purpose of the Sermon

    The ways humanity tries to bring about justice, peace, and unity do not and cannot work. History and current events are proof that competing against, controlling, or manipulating others always results in disunity, conflict, injustice, and inequality. Yet competition, force, and manipulation are how humanity has chosen to govern itself. Jesus offers us the sole alternative to humanity’s self-destructive ways: love.

    The law of God is this: every last thing you wish others would do to you, do those exact same things to them. This law defines the behavior of perfect love, which is called “charity.” God’s law is the true moral and ethical standard of all humankind, being written into every conscience, and it is the definition of “good.” Behavior that falls short of this law is not good and produces both guilt and conflict with others.

    The purpose of the law of God is to end conflict between people. Those who willingly keep His law may joyfully and peacefully live together as equals, both here and now, and forever in the eternal world. The commandments that Jesus gave us in the Sermon on the Mount are how we are to obey the law of God through our works and end our conflicts with others.

    Love, the feeling which makes us want to do what the law of God commands, is given to us by God. Charity is Jesus’s nature, meaning He feels perfect love towards everyone. Charity is the nature of all those who inherit God’s kingdom with Jesus. Jesus’s commandments in the Sermon on the Mount are the actions which those who have charity do by nature.

    “Sin” is intent or action which falls short of the law of God, such as giving in to lust and doing to others what we do not wish others would do to us. “Repent” means to change one’s mind, to reconsider, or to relent, all of which implies a willing change in one’s behavior.

    Any who will believe Jesus’s words in the Sermon on the Mount as literally as small children believe their parents’ words, and repent of all their sins, and be baptized by one of His sent servants, shall be visited by God with fire and with the Holy Ghost and shall receive a remission of their sins.

    The visitation of the Holy Ghost changes our feelings so that we understand Jesus’s love and want to only do good. Then we are to do what Jesus commands until the end of our lives. We trust in Jesus to guide and comfort us in our trials and afflictions as we learn who and what He is by the things we suffer in obedience to His teachings. Just as one does not learn a new skill without practice, nobody can understand nor master the discipline of perfect love without doing its works. Doing the works Jesus commanded until we fully understand Him and freely agree to become what He is and to receive His nature from Him permanently as a gift by His grace so that we love everyone perfectly just like He does is what it means to be a disciple of Jesus.

    If you keep the commandments of Jesus Christ, you are His church,5 you are His disciple,6 you are His friend,7 and you are His family.8

    The Lukan Sermon

    Luke 6:20-49, KJV
    20 ¶ And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples, and said, Blessed be ye poor: for yours is the kingdom of God.
    21 Blessed are ye that hunger now: for ye shall be filled. Blessed are ye that weep now: for ye shall laugh.
    22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man’s sake.
    23 Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.
    24 But woe unto you that are rich! for ye have received your consolation.
    25 Woe unto you that are full! for ye shall hunger. Woe unto you that laugh now! for ye shall mourn and weep.
    26 Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.
    27 ¶ But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,
    28 Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.
    29 And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also.
    30 Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again.
    31 And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
    32 For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them.
    33 And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same.
    34 And if ye lend to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again.
    35 But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.
    36 Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful.
    37 Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:
    38 Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.
    39 And he spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch?
    40 The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.
    41 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but perceivest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
    42 Either how canst thou say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother’s eye.
    43 For a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
    44 For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes.
    45 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.
    46 ¶ And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
    47 Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like:
    48 He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock.
    49 But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.

    1 Matthew 7:28, John 7:16
    2 Matthew 28:19-20
    3 1 Nephi 13:40-41
    4 Matthew chapters 5 through 7; Luke 6:20-49; 3 Nephi chapters 12 through 14
    5 Matthew 7:24-25, 16:18; Luke 6:47-48
    6 John 8:31-32 (see also, in this order: John 14:6, 17:3, 14:21, 23)
    7 John 15:14
    8 Luke 8:19-21

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  40. niceland says:

    I am always a bit surprised how strong role religion still plays in U.S. politics and – it seems- society in general. Since I am atheist I am obviously no authority on religion. The narrative I have bought into is: it took Europe hundreds of years to put the church where it belongs, meaning out of political power. In the same view this was necessary step for the “enlightenment” and scientific processes to blossom kicking off the industrial revolution and so forth. Generally a big step forward for mankind.

    Is any of this related to what is described as the destruction of Christianity in the west or just plain wrong?

    BTW Christmas is greatly celebrated over here, pushed forward by merchants and the media. And we can certainly use the holidays and all the lights and decoration in this darkest time of the year. Even Jesus is sometimes mentioned. Bless him – Gleðileg Jól!

  41. Talha says:

    Great article Mr. Shamir; thank you for the insights into Christian thought.

    People are often unfair to the blacks: at first, they encouraged them to turn away from the church, and then, they blamed them for the consequent depredation.

    Thank you for saying this. These are my thoughts exactly.

    I celebrate this Christmas in Sweden, and the Swedes do it on Dec 24, indeed.

    Yup, that’s when we call my mother in law to see how she is doing and the kids send their well-wishes to their mormor.

    Piggy-backing on pensword’s sentiments; may 2019 be filled with even more blessings for you and your family.

    Peace.

  42. @M Edward

    Sorry we did this to you. I’m sure your “Danish” culture would have done lots better without Christianity. I apologize.

    I’m of Romanian descent and I’m jolly glad we had Christian influence cast upon us.

    • Replies: @Dacian
  43. @log

    But what was meant by saying, “Blessed are the Greeks”?

    • Replies: @Miggle
  44. Dacian says:
    @Parsnipitous

    I’d rather live in a strong Dacia, outside of the Greco-Roman pederast “civilization”, than in the decadent Judeo-Christian looney bin worshiping of an alien Jew.

    • Replies: @Old Jew
  45. Art says:

    Jesus!

    Virgin birth, son of God, arose from the dead, ever existed – does it make any difference to us today? What good that has been done in His name has changed humanity.

    Is it not the mindset developed on His life and words, that has been interpreted into better lives by 100’s of millions? Truth or story, this deserves to be celebrated.

    Jesus propagates hope and love – Peace will come!

  46. Old Jew says:
    @Dacian

    Las-0 dracului.
    Lasa prostiile!

    Mai bine adu-ti aminte:

    ..O, ce veste minunata,
    … Din Vicleim ni s-arata,
    …c’astazi s-a nascut,
    …cel far’ de-nceput…

  47. Agent76 says:

    Why I Hate Religion, But Love Jesus

    In the scriptures Jesus received the most opposition from the most religious people of his day. At it’s core Jesus’ gospel and the good news of the Cross is in pure opposition to self-righteousness/self-justification. Religion is man centered, Jesus is God-centered.

    Amendment I – Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/first_amendment

    Aug 1, 2010 One Minute Sermon

    This lady says more in one minute than some preachers say in an hour. I love this!

  48. This idea of supremacy, of inequality, of being good to your kin and awful to the rest, is again the biggest danger mankind faces now

    And yet I’d argue that it’s at least as dangerous to engage the Christian Universalist suicidality of being kinder to those with whom you share nothing than you are to those with whom you share virtually everything. Favoring cannibalistic savages from whom your ancestors departed 70,000 years ago or more over your neighbors next door is simply insane. Allowing a different tribe of cannibalistic savages to invade your home and pillage your community because “we are all brothers under Christ Jesus” is no better.

    Your religion is rotten to the core. Having been raised in it and seeing the benefits especially for the left side of the bell curve, I’m reluctant to scrap it entirely, but I don’t think reform is possible. Maybe it’s time to invent a new Sky Fairy for the simple minded who require a Sky Fairy, abandoning the old one to the Jews and Muslims? Maybe we could call our new Sky Fairy Odin or Zeus or Jupiter?

  49. dimples says:
    @wayfarer

    I disagree. I’ve read the book and it’s hokum. Sorry just because a book is written in a trance doesn’t mean its got the je ne sais quoi.

  50. @renfro

    since you are totally outnumbered by people who believe in something maybe you should be the one to move on

    said every whip-licking serf since forever (especially when it suited their interests).

    Jews were outnumbered in 1940s Germany, and are today (by ~49: 1 if the numbers are to be believed) – I hold no brief for the Red Sea Pedestrians, but given your posting record I doubt if you would be prepared to apply the same principle of “numerical inferiority is the determinant of who gets to suck it up and ‘move on’ ” when discussing whatever happened to them during that time/place (or more generally).

    Every time the ‘football of liberty‘ has been moved forward, the people moving the ball have been a tiny tiny tiny tiny tiny minority of the population. Most of the time, the chains get moved down the field while the total proportion of the population supporting the change is less than 5% – i.e., this is an away team at Green Bay.

    The majority aren’t on board with any significant advancement of liberty, until it’s first and goal inside the 1-yeard line.

    I have always been appalled by the whole ‘thing’ of systematically lying to children in order to slightly prolong the lifespan of a stupid primitive anti-scientific cult; congratulations on providing yet another incremental data point that confirms my assessment.

    Part of the reason why I am so very very fond of my parents, is that they didn’t do any of that: no Easter Bunny; no Tooth Fairy; no Santa; no Baby in a Manger… none of that complete bullshit. They were not militants, by any means… they simply agreed, when they first got married, that if they were going to have kids, raising them to be able to discriminate between fact and horse-shit was a good thing. (That’s why they are still happily married after 55 years: I just spent a couple of days with them for “reasons other than ‘The Holidays’”.

    • Replies: @renfro
  51. It’s about 2022 years since the (fictional) events (fictionally) occurred, and it’s about two decades since everybody worked out that everything from Genesis to Revelation is a pile of horse-shit with absolutely zero contemporaneous evidence.

    I understand that it suits some dimwits to continue to pretend that archaeology has not completely dismantled Exodus, Joshua, Judges, Deuteronomy, Kings, … etc etc … Matthew, Mark, Luke, John and the post-“mortem” fanfic from Saul/Paul.

    But guess what? That happened, folks. We have more verified evidence for Egyptian accountants from 1500BCE, than we have for the combination of Avram, Moses, David, Saul, Joshua, Samson, Jesus (etc), Let it the fuck go already.

    Celebrating the birth of a specific fictional character is as stupid as celebrating the day that Bruce Banner got pelted by gamma rays and turned into the Hulk. At least we have original documents that ‘attest’ to that ‘fact’ … in the same way: 2000 years from now, people investigating the textual record would find abundant, multi-source ‘evidence’ from 2002/03 that categorically proved that Iraq had WMDs

    • Replies: @Iris
    , @ploni almoni
  52. utu says:

    The Iraqi Cabinet voted in favor of amending its national holidays law to include a holiday recognizing December 25 as “the occasion of the birth of Jesus Christ.”

    https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2018/12/25/iraq-makes-christmas-day-national-holiday/

  53. In this article the Pharisees are said to have been in control of Bethlehem:

    His birth in Herodian Judea under Pharisee control was a prefiguration of His descent to Hell.

    This is incorrect. The Pharisees happened to have been kicked out of Jerusalem & Judeah at that time. They fled + found refuge in the Galilean capital of Sepphoris (3 km from Nazareth). When Herod Antipas founded the new Galilean capital Tiberias on the shore of the Sea of Tiberias, the Pharisees chose Tiberias as their stronghold. In the meantime the Sadducees ruled over the Herodian Temple in Jerusalem. The story of Jesus’ birth according to Matthew is remarkably critical towards King Herod, who is a mock-up ‘King’ (killing innocent children) and a disgrace compared with King David. When Jesus grew up, the Pharisees were allowed to visit the Temple of Jerusalem again. It is unwise to use the designation ‘Pharisee’ in a derogatory manner.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  54. Iris says:
    @Kratoklastes

    The advent of Christianity constituted an unprecedented ethical revolution, and could very arguably be qualified as a “global” moral revolution, considering the central position the Mediterranean helds in Western and Middle-Eastern civilisations.

    Before Christianity, our world was sinking in the darkness and depravity of the Roman Empire: enslavement of entire people, forced slave child prostitution as an industry, murder of human beings in circus games as entertainment, total obliteration of alternative cultures and identities.

    Christianity was the key moral philosophy that ended much of this abjection.
    For somebody who allegedly “never existed”, Jesus Christ had an incredibly powerful historic impact on the fate of humankind, and on the savage Roman Empire’s policies.

    Happy Christmas to you.

    • Replies: @j2
  55. Che Guava says:

    Interesting abt. the Swedes. I was reading today on an American site that many people celebrate it on 6th of Dec., in honour of doings of the ancient Nicholas. The writer is not an idiot, but was not specific as to where.

    As for to be among the people of the land, the only time I go to a church and am not, it is Korean Lutherans, but just about everyone is Korean. Few to no foreigners at Catholic services.

    I understand what you say about jinjas and monasteries, and I pray at them at times (well, not the monasteries, join in the festivals, pray on holy mountains, etc., but your view is too narrow). As for Buddhism from Japan, I guess you would be aware that Nichiren priests made a key incident in the invasion of China. One may also say that Aum Shinrikyo was the apex of the post-war Buddhist cults. I was invited to their events, never went, I still have, somewhere, a list of their things for sale, ambient music tapes, other things, sometimes wishing I bought some, would be easy to sell at very high prices now.

    There are many more very odd things that people in positions such as yours do not understand. I had a good friend who was a drummer in a very good rock band, his father was a normal Buddhist priest, he decided to take the same path as his father, knowing his character well, I am certain that he is a great local priest, has likely made a good marriage.

    As for Shinto and Yasukuni …

    In any case, the stranger forms of Buddhism here make me closer to the more trad. forms of Christianity.

    Would write at more length, I should writing an article on it, but this is becoming too long, will just say that the Niigata Cathedral (a must visit if there), and St. Luke’s in Kanda are both very beautiful and very simple, and there is an Orthodox church in Ochanomizu, closer than you say, so I may go there for the Julian-calendar service, although I am forgetting the difference in the way of crossing self.

    Hope that you read that article that is linked from iSteve, it was very funny.

  56. @Dacian

    We have to make the best of it. It is all that we have got.

  57. Che Guava says:
    @ploni almoni

    Thank you very much.

    I have read of the history before, rode past many times, and entered to confirm that it is not a fake wedding church (although, from observation, it seems to gain some revenue from similar, some of the upper classes in Tokyo).

    Will check tomorrow, if it is Gregorian calendar, too late, if not, maybe.

  58. @All we like sheep

    You mean it is unwise to use “Pharisee” in a derogatory manner because they will come and kill you?

    You must have Scripture in mind, don’t you, like a true believer. Doubtless, Mark 23 where Jesus says a number of unwise, derogatory things about Pharisees:

    “Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to His disciples, saying: “The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. Therefore whatever they tell you to observe, that observe and do, but do not do according to their works; for they say, and do not do. For they bind heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers. But all their works they do to be seen by men. They make their phylacteries broad and enlarge the borders of their garments. They love the best places at feasts, the best seats in the synagogues, greetings in the marketplaces, and to be called by men, ‘Rabbi, Rabbi.’ But you, do not be called ‘Rabbi’; for One is your Teacher, the Christ, and you are all brethren. Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. And do not be called teachers; for One is your Teacher, the Christ. But he who is greatest among you shall be your servant. And whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.
    “But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut up the kingdom of heaven against men; for you neither go in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in.Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you devour widows’ houses, and for a pretense make long prayers. Therefore you will receive greater condemnation.
    “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel land and sea to win one proselyte, and when he is won, you make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves.
    “Woe to you, blind guides, who say, ‘Whoever swears by the temple, it is nothing; but whoever swears by the gold of the temple, he is obliged to perform it.’ Fools and blind! For which is greater, the gold or the temple that sanctifies the gold? And, ‘Whoever swears by the altar, it is nothing; but whoever swears by the gift that is on it, he is obliged to perform it.’ Fools and blind! For which is greater, the gift or the altar that sanctifies the gift? Therefore he who swears by the altar, swears by it and by all things on it. He who swears by the temple, swears by it and by Him who dwells in it. And he who swears by heaven, swears by the throne of God and by Him who sits on it.
    “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone. Blind guides, who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel!
    “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you cleanse the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of extortion and self-indulgence. Blind Pharisee, first cleanse the inside of the cup and dish, that the outside of them may be clean also.
    “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs which indeed appear beautiful outwardly, but inside are full of dead men’s bones and all uncleanness. Even so you also outwardly appear righteous to men, but inside you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.
    “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you build the tombs of the prophets and adorn the monuments of the righteous, and say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.’
    “Therefore you are witnesses against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers’ guilt. Serpents, brood of vipers! How can you escape the condemnation of hell? Therefore, indeed, I send you prophets, wise men, and scribes: some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from city to city, that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. Assuredly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.”

    By the way, Jerome went looking for Nazareth in the third century and could not find it. A place by that name only came into existence in the Middle Ages, so “Nazareth” actually means Sepphoris. Thereby hangs a tale.

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  59. Che Guava says:

    I don’t knowing that it is a good thing or not, but this is a good action. Nobody who drove the Iraqi Christians out will do anything to support their return, and they would presumably be doing so well on govt. handouts in the EU, USA, etc., as to not want to return.

  60. @Kratoklastes

    You can’t tell the difference between Bruce Banner, AKA the Hulk, and Jesus?

  61. Bystander says:

    Many comments above cite Scandinavian Christmas celebrations on the afternoon / evening of December 24th as being, somehow, a slight on celebrations the morning of December 25th.

    Per Genesis 1:1-31, a day begins every evening and runs to the next evening. So Scandinavian Christmas celebrations during twilight hours of December 24 are very Biblical.

    On another matter: Luke 1:23-25 places John the Baptist’s conception in late September, immediately after the Abia family’s Temple roster service of Zachary, his father. Luke 2:36-37 then informs us that six months later, ie late March, Mary consents to become the spouse of the Holy Spirit and visits Zachary’s wife for 3 months to help with John’s birth in late June. Six months thereafter Mary is in Bethlehem giving birth to her own son in late December.

    Apropos, some scholars claim that Jesus must have been born in the spring because such is lambing time in northern Europe, when a different breed of sheep do give birth in the spring. However near and middle eastern, ‘fat tail’ sheep, the kind once used in Temple sacrifices, are usually born in later December – early January. Furthermore, Bethlehem was the area overseen by Temple Levites for the raising of Passover lambs.

  62. renfro says:
    @Kratoklastes

    “numerical inferiority is the determinant of who gets to suck it up and ‘move on’ ”

    Numbers have no relation to inferiority and inferiority was not the subject of my comment.
    However it appears from your obvious pent up rage that you have severe mental and emotional issues probably due to the inferiority of your upbringing….i.e.. your parents radicalizing instead of teaching you respect and to observe the facts.

    https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-fastest-growing-religions-in-the-world.html
    The Fastest Growing Religions in the World

    [MORE]

    Rank Religion Estimated Percent Change in Population Size Estimates
    1 Islam 70
    2 Christianity 34
    3 Hinduism 27
    4 Judaism 15
    5 Folk Religions 5
    6 Unaffiliated

    https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-20-countries-with-the-highest-population-growth.html
    Countries With the Fastest Growing Populations

    Rank Country Population Growth Rate (%)
    1 Oman 8.45
    2 Lebanon 5.99
    3 Kuwait 4.81
    4 Qatar 4.72
    5 South Sudan 4.09
    6 Niger 4.00
    7 Burundi 3.34
    8 Chad 3.31
    9 Iraq 3.31
    10 Angola 3.30
    11 Uganda 3.27
    12 Gambia 3.24
    13 Democratic Republic of the Congo 3.17
    14 Tanzania 3.16
    15 Senegal 3.10
    16 Jordan 3.06
    17 Malawi 3.06
    18 Zambia 3.05
    19 Afghanistan 3.02
    20 Mali 2.98

  63. Miggle says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    Without having really read the mormonic “log” in any detail, in that world there were two species of humanity, Jews and Greeks. Alexander the Great had made the entire world Greek. So it means, “Blessed are the Gentiles”.

    Or, since there were many Hellenistic Jews at that time, and for the same reason, it may mean Jews visiting Jerusalem from abroad.

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  64. j2 says:
    @Iris

    “Before Christianity, our world was sinking in the darkness and depravity of the Roman Empire: enslavement of entire people, forced slave child prostitution as an industry, murder of human beings in circus games as entertainment, total obliteration of alternative cultures and identities.

    Christianity was the key moral philosophy that ended much of this abjection.”

    Yes, it become a good religion and freed Christian slaves (before the Atlantic slave trade started, but also that was stopped because of Christianity). So, it become good, but I do not think there was anything good in it to start with. It was a suicide cult in order to redeem the Jews so that they could fight Rome and win world power. What Jesus taught was perfect goodness of an innocent sacrifice, not something that you can or should live by. The real miracle is that such a crazy concept could be turned to the good and kind religion it become. As a Christian I have studied the origins of Christianity for a long time and my best bet is what I wrote in this short post:
    http://www.pienisalaliittotutkimus.com/2018/12/26/connecting-the-dots-the-story-of-jesus/
    what it was originally. And yes, Herod Agrippa I was probably born sometime in December 11 BC.

    All the best to you Iris.

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  65. @ploni almoni

    In the Gospels very often Jesus is said to be ‘quarreling’ with the scribes and the Pharisees. The verb that is put there in Greek originally means ‘to search’. This very emotive & expressive way of exchanging scholarly interpretations of the Scriptures is typical Jewish. But more important is to know from which perspective Jesus is passing his blunt judgments: from within or from the outside. I read ‘Tiberias’ as the place where Jesus received his schooling: among the Pharisees. This doesn’t necessarily imply that he became a Pharisee himself. For that matter, more often Jews tend not to agree with other Jews. This hotheaded hot-heartedness in differing from each other is reflected in the exchanges between Jesus and his Jewish brethren. Jesus knew the Pharisee teachings from within. He knew which buttons to press, so to say, and he indulged in doing just that. So in mine opinion Jesus attacked the Pharisees because he felt close to them. For example he calls them “hypocrites!”, which is originally the Greek designation of the prompter / souffleur, who is shouting (-crite) from below (hypo-) the text that the masked actors on the stage had to recite. This is by the way one of the proofs that Jesus knew about the Hellenistic setup of Sepphoris. But summa summarum, the fact that Jesus spoke harshly of the Pharisees is more a sign of being close to them than a sign of separating himself from them. Thanks to the Pharisees we are able to read the Scriptures. Saul/Paul remained a typical excelling Pharisee, especially after his Road to Damascus experience.

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  66. @Miggle

    Thanks. I was actually referring to the scene in The Life of Brian where, due to bickering among the audience listening to the sermon on the mount, Jesus was mistakenly thought to have said blessed are the Greeks rather than blessed are the meek. The movie was a work of genius, as is the bible in terms of being able to make people believe anything, however preposterous (although there might have been a few burnings as an added inducement to have faith).

  67. @All we like sheep

    Jesus is not “quarreling” with the Pharisees. He is telling them they are going to hell. And as far as being crucified by them, no hard feelings. Saul/Paul, the “excellent Pharisee” was created to be the instrument to say the Law of Moses kills, circumcision is mutilation, and being kosher is useless. Other than that, yes, an excellent Pharisee, the best. Gamaliel “his teacher” would have been proud. James the Just thought he should be put to death, but that is normal.

  68. bjondo says:
    @Waitemata

    don’t think the dead sea scrolls especially the war scroll have anything to do with christianity.

    for those diatribes against religion esp christianity, ok. spew all you want.

    youses apparently don’t understand the purposes of religion.

    it takes a special type of person with a special type of education to be a vacuum.

    well, a vacuum that can spew nonsense and hate.

    while i have a computer, another excellent and appreciated writing by israel shamir.

  69. There is an Christian orthodox Church in Tokyo, with true services and celebrations. I disagree with the suggestion of “following the local trend”. If so, the wonderful work of missionaries including the true or legendary work of Apostles themselves, like Thomas up to China, would just be in vain and the world would remain what it is. In China where I live, Christmas is persecuted also, access to celebration is controlled and limited etc., without any intervention of any jew, but recently someone published an article explaining the 10 reasons why Chinese should celebrate Christmas:it starts with universal Calendar that has replaced traditional Chinese calendar, but goes on with the introduction by missionaries of new egalitarian school system, the creation of pinyin which still today is the first lesson given to children at school, and the acknowledgement that hospitals have been ENTIRELY created by Christian priests, taking care of the poor and the sick. In 1937 there were 300 Christian hospitals and 600 clinics in China. When people were sick they were advised, as a common saying “when sick go to the cross”, because all hospitals were marked with the cross. The modern education of sciences and academics was also brought and developed by Christians. And finally during the war with Japan, many Christian priests fought and died to save in Tianjin (Vincent Lebbe), in Shanghai (Jacquinot de Bessange) in Nankin and many other places…millions of refugees, women, soldiers. These elements are all ‘indirect’ marks of respect and love to Christian faith, but they are nevertheless precious and respectable. Do not look down on this first drop of love.
    ref. to google translate: https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/Pi6kO3DTk34CMo2W42sSWg?

  70. @CalDre

    There is a very simple proof that December 25th is not the actual birth date of Christ: this date is not universal… It applies to the solstice/Mithra/ whatever, but only in the Northern hemisphere! Christ should be born on June 24th for all Southern Hemisphere, date when light starts shining again…
    But ridiculing this date is just as ridiculous. I would not see anything wrong if Australia and South Africa would celebrate Christmas on June 24th. On the contrary, it would show how people are able to adjust an universal spiritual truth to the limited and contingent accessible ‘universe’. All the liturgy is made of convergence between human habits and capabilities, as bread, wine, offerings, giving thanks, to a deeper incandescent point where soul and body truly merge. Christmas on December 25th is not a ‘covering’ of pagan habit, it is the clever use of the tradition, the world, the sky, the universe as a language to, partly, express a spiritual reality. Solstice is mathematics, mathematics is language, language is, for Christians, praise.

  71. Nonny says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Was the Weimar Republic run by Jews?

  72. @j2

    Hi j2, a bit OT, but I notice you’ve removed your calculation of the Jewish death toll during WW2 from your blog. That is very unfortunate, I found it very useful and did not copy it, do you have plans to repost it?

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  73. j2 says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    Hi Mighty, I thought you all left this site. I will put those posts back after I have registered my permanent residence in a country where arithmetics may be illegal. About a month from now I check my calculations yet again, update them to what I learned from FKA Max and put them back adding so many rebuttals to my text that it should suffice for anything. One month is typically the time Gestapo investigates one issue in any country.

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  74. Its obvious Mr Shamir, who found a nuclear arsenal while taking a sh** never read the Bible in his life!

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  75. Miggle says:
    @melgibstein

    melgibstein, thanks for this:

    Its obvious Mr Shamir, who found a nuclear arsenal while taking a sh** never read the Bible in his life!

    I blame my low intelligence level for being unable to make sense of what you wrote, and hope you will explain in a simple way that allows me to understand you.

    You seem to have raised two unrelated issues.

    “Israel”, the region of Palestine that’s been given that name, not Shamir, hides its nuclear arsenal where people go to take a sh**t, is that right? Why?

    And are you saying there is some passage of the Bible that Israel Shamir isn’t well or at all acquainted with? What passage?

    And my poor brain still can’t see how that proves Israel Shamir never read the Bible in his life.

    Please make it simple for me.

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