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Perhaps the Jewish Messiah is already here, though we are not aware of his coming? All Jewish dreams and desires were fulfilled this mid-May. Well, almost all. Two great world power leaders competed in their benevolence to Jews, while ordinary Israelis had fun and exhilarating soft target practice shooting unarmed Gazans or at least cheering the sharpshooters. Iranians gnashed their teeth but did nothing. The US Congress deemed that the Poles should pay the Jews $300 billion in tribute. And an exceedingly obnoxious Jewish wench got the crown of the European art scene, accidentally ensuring that the new capital of Israel, Jerusalem, will be the location of a prominent international gathering next year.

If you think that some of this benevolence should drip to you and that your lot should be somewhat better, think again. Nobody promised you a rose garden. The Jewish Messiah is good for the Jews, while non-Jews should just work harder and prepare for divine vengeance. There are arguments about whether all the goyim will be hit by vengeance, or whether some should survive to buy retail. However, benevolence towards non-Jews is not a striking feature of this arrangement.

I was quite apprehensive in the beginning of May. The schedule appeared scary. The Iranians had established themselves in Syria, the Russians were prepared to equip Syria with their best S-300 system (it is more reliable than the new and fancy S-400). The Palestinians planned to demonstrate on the 70th anniversary of their Nakba loosely coinciding with the US Embassy move to Jerusalem and with beginning of Ramadan. A war with Iran and Hezbollah, riots in the Palestinian territories, loss of the God-given right to fly and bomb as we wish all over the Middle East – dangers galore were stored for the first half of May. With all my critical attitude, the utter destruction of the beloved land is not my wet dream.

Prudent people would tread cautiously, preferring to minimize their risks in such a situation, but Jews are all for maximising them. If we must have trouble, let us have all the trouble now to have it done with, said Netanyahu. And all troubles – the Iran nuclear deal collapse, the Nakba anniversary, the shift of the US embassy to Jerusalem, the confrontation in Syria, the beginning of Ramadan – were unloaded at once. Israel passed it with flying colours. There was no big war.

Palestine

True, some 60 Palestinian demonstrators were shot dead, the same number as were martyred in the Sharpeville Massacre, but what a difference! South Africa turned into a pariah state overnight, and the global campaign to dismantle apartheid began in earnest. The Gaza Massacre has been whitewashed by the obedient mainstream media, reported the RT. This event proved once again that mass media and social networks all over the world are in the Jewish grip, firm and invisible. Governments, parties, diplomats can and did protest, but the general public was insulated from the event.

The global system of mass information has changed a lot since 1960. There is an incredible abundance of information, a veritable flood that washes off everything. People think only what they are told today, and mass campaigns are produced by media and think tanks, they do not produce themselves. People are being told every day about, say, the Holocaust, or about Assad’s atrocities, or Putin’s meddling so it is kept in their minds. The moment the campaign is turned off, interest flags and the matter is totally forgotten, like the Skripal Affair was forgotten after it had been played to full capacity. Now Skripal has been disappeared by the British Secret Services, but this is not mentioned, outside of this publication.

And the mass murder in Gaza is already on its way to oblivion. They wanted to remind the world that they are buried alive in the grave of Gaza, and now they are dead. The people of Gaza have been locked up there for 70 years; the last 12 years were the worst, as the Gaza Strip has been under siege by Israel since they voted for Hamas. Gaza is almost unliveable, as Israel has bombed its power station, its sewage plants, its harbour and airfield. They can’t even fish, as Israeli boats machinegun the fishing boats. They can see their homes and fields taken from them just because they aren’t Jews, and they can’t reach them. This expulsion, dispossession, imprisonment of three generations, and siege are a unique Jewish sin.

Perhaps, the Holocaust was a divine punishment for Jewish treatment of Gaza, since for God, time sequence is of no importance. In the Torah, there are no earlier or later events, בתורה מאוחר ואין מוקדם אין, teaches the Talmud, and it is true. One can be punished for the sins not yet committed, and if they will not be committed, the punishment will be undone, too. If the Jews wouldn’t torture Gaza, there would be no Auschwitz.

Gaza is a noble place despite its depredation. In many countries, children of rulers are turning into billionaires. The daughter of the Angolan president is the richest woman in Africa: she is the only mobile telephony provider in diamond-rich Angola. But there is another tradition, of the children of the rulers being first to war. That is the tradition of Gaza. Among those shot by Israeli sharpshooters, there were thee children of Gaza’s leaders.

The son of the ex-Prime Minister of Gaza, Ismail Haniye, Maaz, has been among the heavily wounded. Ahmed al-Rantisi, the son of Abd el Aziz al-Rantisi, the founder of Hamas, has been killed. His father, called the Lion of Palestine, was been assassinated by the Jews in 2004, when an Israeli helicopter gunship launched a missile at his car in the centre of Gaza, killing him, his bodyguards and wounding passers-by. And now his son has followed him. Izz al-Din al-Sammak, son of Musa al-Sammak, a Hamas leader, was killed, and he was only 14 years old.

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Altogether over a hundred boys and young men, the flower of Palestine, have been reaped in these unarmed demonstrations of April-May. A purpose of this killing spree was to show that non-violent resistance is futile. It is more fun to kill an armed opponent, if you are much better armed. When you kill an unarmed one, it is obviously not cricket. But such consideration has never stopped a Jew.

The reason is the serious doubt in the humanity of non-Jews that is planted in the centre of the Jewish religious Weltanschauung. A good Israeli who condemns Gaza killings most probably is a vegetarian, who objects to the killing of animals, too. Such good Israelis are often anti-male, and prefer to use a feminine form of nouns, like Zochrot. Such good Israelis usually are anti-native, and support unlimited immigration of Africans to Palestine. Such people can’t be numerous, and they aren’t.

As for other Jews, they learned from the Matrix protagonist, Neo (Keanu Reeves), who had been taught to (dis)regard obvious dangers as maya, as a mirage created by the Matrix, and he jumped from skyscrapers and dodged bullets. Jews apparently have a similar attitude to reality. One day it won’t work, to their surprise, but this time it worked.

The transfer of the US Embassy had been described as the main reason for the bloodshed. However, this is a line of @neverTrump brotherhood. This spiteful decision had done a lot of good, as it ruined the carefully nurtured fiction of the US as an honest broker. Very few Palestinians cared about this Trump decision, a few dozens demonstrated against it in Jerusalem and other places, while the mammoth demonstration in Gaza was unrelated to Trump, as described above. It is not Trump who declared siege on Gaza, it is not Trump who expelled Palestinians from their homes, it is not Trump who perpetuated the Nakba, the Palestinian catastrophe. Trump undermined the Machiavellian tactics of the State Department and made it hard for the Arab stooges to follow Washington, and this is not bad.

Iran

Iran is a big, far away country, and there is no practical reason for Israel to quarrel with them. But Iran is the last and only country in the Middle East that is not subject to Jewish hegemony. Netanyahu did its best to set the US upon Iran by doing a Colin Powell act. Jews prevailed upon Trump to take his country out of the nuclear deal of six powers, and after that, in the moment of highest tension, Israel bombed so-called Iranian bases in Syria. Nothing happened. Iranians, upset and annoyed, still submit to the laws of the Matrix, and they aren’t going to jump from skyscrapers or counterattack Israel and experience Trump’s fury. For this president is a tame elephant for the Jews.

The best gift God Almighty gave the Jews this season is the Matzo balls of president Trump. The Chosen people have got him by the balls in more ways than one. He had been caught with a loose woman, just like President Clinton, and he was justifiably afraid of impeachment. In this moment of sorrow he decided to surrender to Jewish mercies, and to do all they asked.

He tore up the Iran nuclear deal, just as Bibi Netanyahu asked. He promised to heap sanctions on Iran until they surrender and change their regime for an Israel-friendly one. And then he delivered on his promise to move the US embassy to Jerusalem. A fat lot of good that did him.

I do not envy Trump. The Jewish mode of support for a leader is a form of waterboarding: the leader is allowed to survive, but only just. The Jewish logic works like that: if we shall save him, he will forget about us and disregard our wishes. So he should be saved but left imperilled. This is what happened to the US President. Jews, and even Israelis were strategically located between the Stormy wench and Trump’s Cohen; they have the heights of the Attorney General’s office and strong positions in the Congress. Like in waterboarding, Trump remains of the verge of drowning, and he has to do the wishes of his persecutors.

Israel will continue to goad Iran, hoping to cause an American-Iranian war. This is a given. If Trump is clever, he won’t strike Iran. Instead, he should strike the Mueller-Gestapo. While Rouhani is the President of Iran, probably Iran will not respond to the Israeli/US provocations, but Rouhani’s position is precarious. Iranians feel that Kim the King of the North managed the American threat better, and they may change their ruler and take a Kim line as a guidance. Israel as a forward base of the US Empire can come under threat.

The best thing about Trump’s Iran policy is that it broke the seemingly unbreakable link between the US and Europe. Where Obama would try to patch differences, Trump enlarged the gap, and even docile Europeans came to the conclusion that they have to be more independent from Washington. This can bring a disconnect between the US banks and European banks, and allow the Europeans to disobey the US sanctions against Iran and Russia. This process is not close to its completion, but it has started. Iran, Russia and European businesses will be the beneficiaries, while the US will find itself out of this game.

Turkey

The strongest voice against Israeli brutality was that of President Erdogan of Turkey. He sent Israeli ambassador home, called back his own ambassador, and organised a meeting of Muslim states’ leaders to deal with Israel. Independence of Israel had been Erdogan’s hallmark for a long time: he argued with Shimon Peres at Davos years ago, and the recent attempted coup against him also had some Israeli support.

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If you are against Israel, you have to be against the US, the bigger Jewish state. This suits Erdogan. Because of this animosity, no American plane took off from the Turkish NATO base to bomb Syria. The Turkish fight against Kurdish separatists undermined the US will to stay in Syria by all means, and now there are strong indications that Trump intends to dry up financing of the rebels’ enclave in NW Syria, unhappy Idlib. Israel is likely to find itself facing a united and rebuilt Syria, a prospect it hardly cherishes.

Russia

The Russian President, Vladimir Putin, could throw a wrench into the Israeli plans. He is heavily invested in Syria; he needs Iranian troops there, for without them, he’d have to send Russian infantry to dislodge Islamist rebels from the ruins of Syrian cities. He had been humiliated by the US as they had stricken Syrian bases and cities while the Russians sat on their hands. His Chief of Staff said that Syria would get the S-300, and then woe betide the Israeli and American transgressors.

Israelis took this threat in their stride. The Israeli Minister of Defence Avigdor Lieberman said that Israelis would take out the S-300 (“even S-700”, he added) if it would be on our way. And Netanyahu made a strong political gesture – he flew to Moscow and he spent the whole of May 9th with the Russian president.

May 9 is the Russian V-day; it became the biggest and most important Russian holiday under Putin, as the old Soviet feasts had been cancelled while the new ones were in the process of gestation. This was the day when Russians would love to receive prominent guests of honour, but they weren’t coming. This was the Lonely Putin Day. Very few leaders responded to his invitation to come and to review the military parade on the Red Square.

The choice of the holiday was not a natural one: the war is a distant event for vast majority of Russians. Their allies in the war are their present adversaries, the US and England. World War Two has been privatised by the Jews, at least in Western public opinion. For the Westerners, this was the war for the Jews and against the enemy of Jews. There are few references to the war where the Holocaust hasn’t been mentioned. Being aware of these narrative deficiencies, the Soviet leaders didn’t make much out of V-day.

Putin for his nation-building needed a holiday to unite people, to co-opt the pro-Soviet majority without antagonising the anti-Soviet groups. He took V-day and made it into a big event, discounting its faults.

The arrival of Benjamin Netanyahu on that day was a heaven-sent gift for Putin. Here was the man who could call upon the US Senate, who can deal with the US President, and now he came in person, Mr World Jewry personified, supporting the Russian narrative of history. Bibi pinned up the black-and-orange St George ribbon, the mark of a Russian patriot and Putin’s loyalist, he took a poster with a portrait and a name of a (Jewish) war hero and marched next to Putin in the Immortal Regiment parade. Grateful Putin acknowledged the Holocaust and declared friendship with Jewish people.

Netanyahu repaid his host by a missile strike upon Syria, almost right away. This is a standard Israeli procedure: upon any high-level meeting with the Russians, bomb their allies, so they would know who is more important. They bombed Syria while Russian Defence Minister Shoygu’s jet was still in flight from Moscow to Tel Aviv.

Putin swallowed it, and promised to refrain from supplying S-300 to Syria, despite his Chief of Staff’s words. Soon, Israel attacked Syria in force; according to Israel, they attacked Iranian bases; according to Iranians, there are no such things; there are no Iranian bases and no Iranian troops. However, this Israeli attack remained without response.

Since that fateful May 9th day, Russian media has been treating Israel very cautiously. Even the Gaza massacre didn’t bring many condemnations in the Russian media, though the Russian Foreign Office condemned this brutal act. The official state agency RIA reported that Israeli soldiers shot at “especially aggressive individuals”. The second state news agency TASS minimized its reporting about the massacre.

The Russians in power are not keen on Iran and Iranians, an Iranian friend told me. Though Iran would like to buy everything the Russians are willing to sell, the Russians drag their feet. The volume of trade between Russia and Iran is the same as between Russian and tiny Israel, less than $2 billion per annum. Israel has a lot of supporters in the Russian elites, Russians visit Israel by their thousands, while Iran is an unwanted partner.

In short, the Jews overcame their problems by mid-May 2018, and emerged as a leading polity on the planet Earth, in perfect rapport with both superpowers and in control over mind of billions. The massacre of Gaza furnished the proof they can kill with impunity. Yet, until now, the Jews always exceeded a good measure and brought calamity upon themselves. There is no reason to doubt it will happen this time, too. More about it, about the Jewish assault on Poland and on European aesthetics in the next piece.

Israel Shamir can be reached at [email protected]

This article was first published at The Unz Review.

 
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  1. Rational says:

    RULE 1: KNOW THYSELF. RULE 2: KNOW THE ENEMY.

    Thanks for the excellent article, Sir. You make excellent points. But I do not know what you mean when you say “Jews”.

    The most important words in the English language are on the Tower of Delph: “Know Thyself.” The second most important words in the English language are on the Tower (my computer tower): “Know The Enemy.”

    “Jews” is an English term for Hebrew Yehudi, which means a citizen or resident of Yehud (Judah). It refers to citizen of a place, like Texans, New Yorkers, etc.

    The Judaists who live in New York or Florida or Germany are obviously not Yehudi, as they are NOT residents of Yehud (Judah). In fact, the province of Judah no longer exists, so nobody is a Yehudi (Jew) any more.

    There was a country called Rhodesia, and if somebody came to you and says he is a Rhodesian, he is lying. So if somebody comes to you and says he is a “Jew” (Yehudi), citizen of Yehud, tell him to show you his passport from the nation of Yehud. He won’t have any, and he is surely lying.

    See: https://www.haaretz.com/archaeology/why-are-jews-called-jews-1.5410757

    So there are no more Jews in this world, since there is no more Judea. Only Judaists.

    • Replies: @bjondo
  2. Resistance is also futile for Americans. That there must be zero separation between US and Israeli policies is already in place, and the Masters do not reside in Washington. Bolton, Haley, and the rest of the so called cabal of advisors cannot even conceive of what is in the interest of ordinary Americans. All hope is lost for MAGA. Those who continue to believe Trump’s lofty rhetoric are not paying attention.

    • Replies: @Bliss
    , @Dr. X
  3. sarz says:

    A remark I posted at Xymphora seems relevant to this article:

    Globalist and Resistance accounts of the Golan missile battle are very different. The regional Resistance-aligned press says the Israelis got creamed. Here is a summary by Sayed Hasan.

    http://thesaker.is/syria-im…

    The Hezbollah leader, Sayyid Hasan Nasrallah gives a detailed analysis of what he takes to be a serious Israeli defeat.

    http://thesaker.is/syria-im…

    Nasrallah puts a lot of store in his reputation for telling the truth, and has a following in Israel for that reason.

    But Thierry Meyssan, the war correspondent of Libya and Syria, who also has some credibility, gives a very different account. He is, however, not sounding like his own self. He now seems to favour recognition of right to conquered territory if it has been held long enough.

    http://www.voltairenet.org/…

    It’s important to get the facts right. Putin’s statement that tbe Syrians had all they need, and so no need for the S-300, could mean a lot of different things, depending on the actual facts. Could even be Syrians have the Irani clone of the S-300, as some Israeli reports presuppose.

    If Israel has been overmastered in the Golan, it makes the ritual slaughter of Gaza somewhat bearable. Could be that relief is in sight. Inshallah.

    • Replies: @Momus
    , @Uncle Sam
    , @Thorby
  4. Renoman says:

    Not since WW2 has hatred and disdain for the Jews been higher. I would say Israel is closer to being wiped off the face of the Earth than ever before.

  5. Brabantian says: • Website

    Notable perspectives from Israel Shamir here … interesting the evidence he gives that Putin is more of a sell-out to the oligarch-Israeli complex than Trump

    Putin’s state media spinning an Israeli-indulging line on the Gaza massacres, Putin letting Israel kill Syrians and Iranians in Syria, Putin denying Syria even the S-300 missile defence … ZeroHedge now suggesting Putin has asked Iranians to leave Syria altogether

    Whilst, as Shamir suggests, Trump – tho a Deep State hostage – has struck two major blows against Israel, via the technique of exploiting Israeli over-reach and giving them more than they expect to get … as Shamir writes, firstly of the Embassy in Jerusalem ploy -

    Trump undermined the Machiavellian tactics of the State Department and made it hard for the Arab stooges to follow Washington, and this is not bad

    And then re the new Iran sanctions, about to cause billions of losses to European business

    The best thing about Trump’s Iran policy is that it broke the seemingly unbreakable link between the US and Europe

    Maybe Trump is indeed a brave man cleverly doing what he can in the most deadly dangerous circumstances imaginable

    Whilst with Vladimir Putin

    • Replies: @Realist
  6. Enough already with the SideShow, US-Russia-Israel; the main event is in the Big Tent…China.  We get 24/7 the squabble and noise these three create while China slips though the clutter and does business.  High speed bullet trains are beginning to whip all over the Eastern Hemisphere.  They run both ways carrying people and freight in and out of the Peoples Republic.  While the US freaks out, having just noticed a massive trade deficit that is decades old, China makes business that profits themselves and sixty other countries. 
    If the US doesn’t soon get its act together, China will line up the Western Hemisphere as well.  Maybe the US will serve as a coaling station or parking lot? 

    https://robertmagill.wordpress.com/2018/05/16/is-chairman-xi-modeling-kubilai-khan/

    • Replies: @Per/Norway
    , @myself
  7. @Robert Magill

    i dont think the US will much of anything after the empire fails,, the oceans that have kept them safe from knowing what war really is will now serve as a fence.. if they are lucky they will get their wall on the mexican border to keep them enslaved. no escape for the surviving slaves i fear.. the honest Americans i know have my deepest sympathy, the rest i pray for.

    • Replies: @m___
  8. utu says:

    Summary

    Jews are winning on all fronts.

    Russia humiliated and ready to surrender.

    Iran isolated. Was correct to not trust Russia.

    Poor grotesque Poland. Always #1 among losers.

    Do not count on Europe. Merkel overslept.

    China remains isolated. Was correct in assessment of Russia as not a viable ally.

    • Replies: @Felix Keverich
    , @RobinG
  9. Realist says:
    @Renoman

    I would say Israel is closer to being wiped off the face of the Earth than ever before.

    Not with the Bibi butt kisser as President…..although he’s not in control.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Thorby
  10. Realist says:
    @Brabantian

    Notable perspectives from Israel Shamir here … interesting the evidence he gives that Putin is more of a sell-out to the oligarch-Israeli complex than Trump

    Putin’s state media spinning an Israeli-indulging line on the Gaza massacres, Putin letting Israel kill Syrians and Iranians in Syria, Putin denying Syria even the S-300 missile defence … ZeroHedge now suggesting Putin has asked Iranians to leave Syria altogether

    Putin has indeed sold out Iran and Syria, but it is hard to believe that Putin is more of a sell out than Trump.

    Why in hell did the White gentiles allow the Jews to get so powerful?

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @Wally
    , @Jim Christian
  11. utu says:

    Friedrich Nietzsche – Daybreak : Book III – Aphorism # 205

    Of the people of Israel. Among the spectacles to which the coming century invites us is the decision as to the destiny of the Jews of Europe. That their die is cast, that they have crossed their Rubicon, is now palpably obvious: all that is left for them is either to become the masters of Europe or to lose Europe as they once a long time ago lost Egypt, where they had placed themselves before a similar either-or. In Europe, however, they have gone through an eighteen-century schooling such as no other nation of this continent can boast of and what they have experienced in this terrible time of schooling has benefited the individual to a greater degree than it has the community as a whole. As a consequence of this, the psychological and spiritual resources of the Jews today are extraordinary; of all those who live in Europe they are least liable to resort to drink or suicide in order to escape from some profound dilemma something the less gifted are often apt to do. Every Jew possesses in the history of his fathers and grandfathers a great fund of examples of the coldest self-possession and endurance in fearful situations, of the subtlest outwitting and exploitation of chance and misfortune; their courage beneath the cloak of miserable submission, their heroism in spernere se sperni, surpasses the virtues of all the saints. For two millennia an attempt was made to render them contemptible by treating them with contempt, and by barring to them the way to all honours and all that was honourable, and in exchange thrusting them all the deeper into the dirtier trades and it is true that they did not grow cleaner in the process. But contemptible? They themselves have never ceased to believe themselves called to the highest things, and the virtues which pertain to all who suffer have likewise never ceased to adorn them. The way in which they honour their fathers and their children, the rationality of their marriages and marriage customs, distinguish them among all Europeans. In addition to all this, they have known how to create for themselves a feeling of power and of eternal revenge out of the very occupations left to them (or to which they were left); one has to say in extenuation even of their usury that without this occasional pleasant and useful torturing of those who despised them it would have been difficult for them to have preserved their own self-respect for so long. For our respect for ourselves is tied to our being able to practise requital, in good things and bad. At the same time, however, their revenge does not easily go too far: for they all possess the liberality, including liberality of soul, to which frequent changes of residence, of climate, of the customs of one’s neighbours and oppressors educates men; they possess by far the greatest experience of human society, and even in their passions they practise the caution taught by this experience. They are so sure in their intellectual suppleness and shrewdness that they never, even in the worst straits, need to earn their bread by physical labour, as common workmen, porters, agricultural slaves. Their demeanour still reveals that their souls have never known chivalrous noble sentiments nor their bodies handsome armour: a certain importunity mingles with an often charming but almost always painful submissiveness. But now, since they are unavoidably going to ally themselves with the best aristocracy of Europe more and more with every year that passes, they will soon have created for themselves a goodly inheritance of spiritual and bodily demeanour: so that a century hence they will appear sufficiently noble not to make those they dominate ashamed to have them as masters. And that is what matters! That is why it is still too soon for a settlement of their affairs! They themselves know best that a conquest of Europe, or any kind of act of violence, on their part is not to be thought of: but they also know that at some future time Europe may fall into their hands like a ripe fruit if they would only just extend them. To bring that about they need, in the meantime, to distinguish themselves in every domain of European distinction and to stand everywhere in the first rank: until they have reached the point at which they themselves determine what is distinguishing. Then they will be called the inventors and signposts of the nations of Europe and no longer offend their sensibilities. And whither shall this assembled abundance of grand impressions which for every Jewish family constitutes Jewish history, this abundance of passions, virtues, decisions, renunciations, struggles, victories of every kind whither shall it stream out if not at last into great men and great works! Then, when the Jews can exhibit as their work such jewels and golden vessels as the European nations of a briefer and less profound experience could not and cannot produce, when Israel will have transformed its eternal vengeance into an eternal blessing for Europe: then there will again arrive that seventh day on which the ancient Jewish God may rejoice in himself, his creation and his chosen people and let us all, all of us, rejoice with him!

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    , @Mulegino1
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  12. Bliss says:

    The Russians in power are not keen on Iran and Iranians, an Iranian friend told me. Though Iran would like to buy everything the Russians are willing to sell, the Russians drag their feet. The volume of trade between Russia and Iran is the same as between Russian and tiny Israel, less than $2 billion per annum. Israel has a lot of supporters in the Russian elites, Russians visit Israel by their thousands, while Iran is an unwanted partner.

    Another reason why Iran is not a good partner for Russia (in the long run) is that it is a conservative Shi’a Theocracy, while Russian muslims (the largest minority group) are Sunnis who tend towards moderacy and Sufism.

    • Replies: @gT
  13. anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    This was the day when Russians would love to receive prominent guests of honour, but they weren’t coming. This was the Lonely Putin Day

    I wonder why no-one showed up. If that were true, then Putin have very right not trust anybody in times of distress when certain moral supports could have gone a long way to give him the courage he needs

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  14. AaronB says:
    @utu

    lol, I remember reading that when I was a kid.

    All Nietzsche’s hyperventilating aside, the basic issue is between an Enlightenment people that has killed itself with logic, and a non-Enlightenment people that retains vitality because it is still connected to the irrational.

    Not eighteen centuries of training or any such nonsense – this training just happened to manifest when European people’s became weak and without motivation through too much Enlightenment? Ah-ha.

    The situation is reversible, and will be reversed. Europeans will reconnect to the irrational, rediscover the emotional sources of motivation, and the Jewish issue won’t matter anymore.

  15. @utu

    Russia humiliated and ready to surrender.

    Iran isolated. Was correct to not trust Russia.

    China remains isolated. Was correct in assessment of Russia as not a viable ally.

    What, you don’t like Putin’s Russia no more? lol

    Iran doesn’t have a lot of options. Russia is one of the few countries in the world willing to brave American sanctions regime and do business with Iran. And that means Russia can afford to hurt Iran’s feelings. It doesn’t matter how many times Russia hurts Iran’s feelings, because at the end of the day Iran has nobody else to turn to: they are genuinely isolated, and China isn’t exactly rushing to defend Iranians from Israeli airstrikes.

    • Replies: @utu
  16. El Dato says:
    @Realist

    Israel as a forward base of the US Empire can come under threat.

    Israel is not a forward base, it is now part of the decision core. Yes, geographically exposed, not safely ensconced in the (so-awkwardly-renamed) Homeland.

    A bit like orbiting the moon the Endor.

    And there is some cackling going on in the management room.

    “Your overconfidence is your weakness.”
    “Your faith in your friends is yours.”

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    , @Realist
  17. Bliss says:
    @RealAmerican

    All hope is lost for MAGA. Those who continue to believe Trump’s lofty rhetoric are not paying attention.

    Maybe all hope is lost for your ilk (far right racists consumed with hatred for Jews and Blacks), but America is greater today both economically and geopolitically than it was before Trump.

    You must not have been paying attention to what Trump was saying during the campaign. When was the last time a President kept so many of his promises so fast?

    • Agree: Momus
    • Troll: L.K
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    , @renfro
  18. utu says:
    @Felix Keverich

    I would like to know what was the Plan in 2015 when Putin moved in to Syria? Or what was Netanyahu getting from it. It was Netanyahu who gave Putin the green light. W/o it Putin would not move to Syria. Was a trap?

    What Russia is getting in return now that she could not get w/o its Syrian adventure? Is there something positive? That Syria regime is still there, that Hezbollah is still there?

    Besides, is it really over? It looks like it but we can’t be sure.

    Is China responsible for this outcome by being too timid and too distant?

    In 2015 Putin looked good and many projected their hopes on him as the Great Savior of White Man Gentile Civilization. Now they must cope with their disappointment. There are several stages to it like denial, anger and so on.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    , @El Dato
    , @Momus
    , @m___
    , @L.K
  19. Putin is a money hungry and corrupt thug! Once he’s finished sucking off the money and oxygen from the Zionists, he will throw them under the bus! At which time the Russian Mobs will take care of him!

  20. Biff says:

    Through out western history, the Jews seemed to get into power, and then whacked and exiled. Then return to power, and again whacked and exiled. Such a vicious cycle for the wandering tribe. They should just give up, and learn to get along with others.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  21. Wally says:
    @Realist

    Whether he intended it or not, Trump has created even more anger against “that shitty little country”.
    That’s a very good thing.

    ‘Israel’ as we know it is living on borrowed time.

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Agree: Seamus Padraig
  22. Wally says:
    @Realist

    “Why in hell did the White gentiles allow the Jews to get so powerful?”

    It’s called force, coercion, jail sentences.

    Shoving the fake ’6M Jews’ down everyone’s throat has done the job as well. Power and cash are the man reason the scam was created in the first place. And Jews have been trying that lie since at least 1823.

    Below is where free speech on the impossible ‘holocaust’ storyline is illegal, violators go to prison for Thought Crimes.
    An obvious admission that the storyline doesn’t stand up to scientific, logical, & rational scrutiny.

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    , @Realist
    , @renfro
  23. Wally says:

    Shamir said:

    “Perhaps, the Holocaust was a divine punishment for Jewish treatment of Gaza, since for God, time sequence is of no importance.”

    Except the ridiculous and impossible ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are frauds. And easily demonstrated as such. The mere fact that free speech concerning it gets you arrested in ‘Israel’ & much of Europe confirms it’s fraudulence.

    The stupid ‘holocau$t’ tall tales simply cannot withstand rational, scientific scrutiny.

    Revisionists are just the messengers, the absurd impossibility of the ridiculous ‘holocaust’ storyline is the message.

    See the ‘holocaust’ scam easily & thoroughly debunked here: http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Momus
  24. So you’re saying that accounts from Israeli relatives stationed at the border during Naqva day are lies? You’re saying these “protesters” were “unarmed”? Then how did said relatives come under hostile fire?

    If a bunch of people try to destroy a border fence, what do you think would be an appropriate response?

  25. gT says:
    @Bliss

    The Iranians are stupid, instead of pining for Russian support / trade they should just consolidate / build on what they already have. They have 3 countries right now, Iran, Iraq and Syria, they should concentrate on making this big market work. Build highways from Iran to Syria, get trade moving, strengthen their hand in all 3 countries, strengthen the defense, the resolve, and the belligerence capabilities of all 3 countries. They have won the Middle East already, no need to fret about when the final blow to the enemy will be delivered, slow strangulation works just as well as a knife to the jugular.

    Eventually when the time is right, the Golan Heights can be taken back and Israel put in its proper place, but Iran might need nukes by that time.

    And Utu is correct about Poland, those are a bunch of dumb arses, sucking up to the USA and still get shafted anyway, just like Bulgaria, and now Ukraine also. Such is the vassal lot.

  26. Dmitry says:

    For the first time, Shamir seems to be opening writing down some kind of schizophrenic symptoms (“for God, time sequence is of no importance”) – he seems more open when he writes in English than I have seen before.

    As for Israel, Jews, a few small insignificant air-strikes, some predictable protests on the border with Gaza, someone taking part in Victory Day, someone opening an embassy, someone winning a homosexual song contest mainly known for comedy, etc.

    It’s funny people like Shamir pretending this is of some kind of cosmic importance. It is of infinitely less important than even the general media attention given to it.

    These minor stories were not even very important for Israel itself (let alone for the world).* Next month there will be another group of minor stories the website will be writing about.

    Far more interesting things have happened around the world this month.

    Trying to inflate world politics to a minor country like Israel is not just ridiculous, but why you can’t even predict basic behaviours of countries and leaders.

    Not just Putin himself, but really nobody in Russia – well maybe a few thousand people – gives a shit about Israel bombing some Iranians in Syria. It’s only a secondary or distant relevance outside the Middle East.

    -

    * It seems in Israel itself, people give less attention to these trivial events than average reader, living thousands of kilometers away, on this website.

    The largest news story of a last month was the drowning of ten teenagers from a flash flooding.

    • Agree: Hessler
  27. Dmitry says:
    @utu

    Russia does not care about Israel when it went to Syria. The operation has nothing to do with Israel, except to an extent there is a need to co-ordinate air-activities with the neighbouring countries (and that process was incompetently done with Turkey).

  28. ” Yet, until now, the Jews always exceeded a good measure and brought calamity upon themselves. There is no reason to doubt it will happen this time, too. More about it, about the Jewish assault on Poland and on European aesthetics in the next piece. ”

    Jews caused the holocaust ?
    But it is simply is not true, the jewish disaster began when jews resisted the Roman empire, and they were not the only ones.
    Who knows something about the history of the Roman empire knows that it was wars all over the place, for hundreds of years.
    A probably excellent summary one finds under ‘Background’ in
    Otto J. Maenchen-Helfen, ‘ The world of the Huns’, 1973 Berkeley.
    I’m inclined to suppose it was christianity that was THE jewish calamity, a rival ideology that destroyed jewish power.
    The jewish centre, Palestine, Jerusalem, had the disadvantage of being easily accessible for Roman armies.
    All those resisting the Romans mainly in what was the USSR, had the advantage of the terrain.
    Even N Great Britain was never subdued.

  29. Dmitry says:
    @anon

    First of all, there is not special need for visitors at Victory Day. Nobody is feeling ‘lonely’. It is not a highschool prom. Claiming this shows lack of concept or elementary understanding of the meaning of the holiday.

    As for other leaders showing respect. There was not just the Prime Minister of Israel, but also the President of Serbia. In 2015, there was the President of China (the world’s largest nationality).

  30. @El Dato

    GB was blackmailed into the Balfour declaration, otherwise no USA military support, and capitulation in November 1917.
    Not for nothing GB forbade jewish immigration into Palestine in 1939, in order to keep Arabic and/or Muslim support in the war against Germany and Japan.
    After WWII the British supported Hitler’s Madagaskar solution.
    How the Middle East would be now had not Israel been created is anybody’s guess, my idea is not such a mess as it is today.
    Probably the threat of Islamisation of Europe would also never have been.
    Until 1967 the USA was no friend of Israel.
    In 1948 the State Department was against recognising Israel.
    Truman had other ideas, the theory is that he was bribed.

    • Replies: @Anon
  31. @Realist

    Why in hell did the White gentiles allow the Jews to get so powerful?

    Because Carl and Rob Reiner and Norman Lear said so. Remember them?

    • Replies: @Realist
  32. @AaronB

    The situation is reversible, and will be reversed. Europeans will reconnect to the irrational, rediscover the emotional sources of motivation, and the Jewish issue won’t matter anymore.

    Well, yes. Once the over-breeding imported Muslims have bred with and eliminated the Euro-Goy, they will set themselves upon the Jews (they have already, Jews complain in France, Sweden and Norway of the new hatreds by new ‘citizens’). Islam-in-power unleashed in Europe will make Hitler look like Kindergarten if the Chosen Ones haven’t departed the scene. White Goy in Europe will not protect their own daughters for crying out loud, they aren’t going to protect Jews from the Blacks in their midst. This is the price for marginalizing the Whites, who used to exist in sufficient numbers to protect and rescue Jews. You are correct that the Jewish issue won’t matter anymore, except that statement means different things to you and me. You think Europe will have an epiphany. I think Europe is simply about to go dark and genocidal. The wedding over the weekend will be taken as another ‘surrender’. London’s Mayor is another, the process is well-on.

    The nut of the matter as *I* see it is, now the Euro-Goy are swamped with refugees of a darker intent. Israel now needs more room to grow. Bibi knows this, which is why they want to break off an enormous slice of Syria for themselves, if nothing else, to accommodate/expand the over-breeding settlements they already have. Give up the Golan? They mean to expand it. All in the interest of security, of course. The Pali’s? Who are they again?

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @anon
  33. Vojkan says:

    Maybe Netanyahu went to Moscow and said to Putin let’s call it a draw.
    The Russians went to Syria not because they wanted to but because they had to. Just as they annexed Crimea and not Donbass because they had to not because they wanted to.
    With Russia having the population of France and Germany combined and a GDP approximately the same as that of more than three times less populated Spain and down 40% since 2014, maybe we all overestimate Russia’s capabilities.
    Now that the regime change operation in Syria seems to have failed, that Assad is consolidated, and that Russian bases there are secured, maybe Putin thinks that it isn’t unreasonable to call it a draw. Maybe he remembers how it ended the last time Russian military were sent to save a friendly regime, in Afghanistan in the 1980s. Granted, this time they have popular support from locals but the whole effort nevertheless has enormous daily cost which Russia maybe cannot afford to sustain. In September, the intervention will be three years old. Military prowess is not enough. L’argent est le nerf de la guerre.
    Can Putin trust Netanyahu? I think we all know the answer to that question. Is he right to accept to call it a draw? I think he isn’t, Israelis just can’t be trusted. What I think is irrelevant though, I don’t have Putin’s information nor responsiblity. The most important thing to me is that islamist psychos don’t behead children any more and that is thanks to the Russian.

    • Agree: Mike P
    • Replies: @renfro
  34. Realist says:
    @El Dato

    I don’t know who you’re quoting….but it’s not me.

  35. El Dato says:
    @utu

    It was Netanyahu who gave Putin the green light.

    Evidence?

    • Replies: @utu
  36. Duke says: • Website

    Peace be with the reader,

    Yes ! I am here, I have come like a thief in the night.

    The faithful witness

    Our Father willing this comment will not be ‘ moderated ‘ (Censored)

    • Replies: @Duke
  37. Is China responsible for this outcome by being too timid and too distant?

    What makes you think China is any less paralyzed than the West? Both entities (like most of the world) are perfectly capable of speaking up and internationally naming the enemy, some just as easily as they could wipe Israel off the map. But it doesn’t happen. Not even a peep. Not from any of them. Not in the Americas, not in Europe, not in Asia, not in Africa. Nowhere.

    Some like to spin China’s reactions to…. literally everything, as some kind of Chinese master ‘long game’ strategy. Others, like myself, prefer to note that there are certain unspoken rules that China abides by at least as strictly as the US and Europe.

    Rules like not criticizing those who rule you.

    Besides, what benefit could there possibly be in waiting until Israel achieves regional superpower status before making a move against them? America is at it’s weakest. Israel is as weak as it’s ever going to be at this point.

    The simplest answer would be that whatever keeps America so inexplicably obedient is also keeping everyone else the same way.

    Beyond that, only speculation as to what that leash is made of. Samson Option? Kill switch on the global economy/infrastructure? Some kind of chemical or bio or other weapon that’s so impossibly heinous that the mere threat of it’s use paralyzes the largest and the smallest member nations of the international community alike into silently watching everything Israel does and gets away with?

    The bigger picture never fails to suggest that the enemy has more dogs on their leash than most are prepared to acknowledge. Even now.

    • Replies: @foolisholdman
  38. m___ says:
    @Per/Norway

    — On China, Xi,

    Trade, in the light of the long term(10 years plus), is no miracle solution. The finity of the planet speaks against “overheating” exchanges, quantities of goods to quantities of people. Trade is basically acceleration of transactions, which in a sense is the equivalent, but more nuisible then financial capitalism, since it involves physical interaction, while financial capitalism augments to the extreme the disparity between the elites and everybody else as the dominant derivative.

    Any exchange acceleration, trade, must and will grind to a standstill, leaving a situation of greater exhaustion of the planet, toxicity and less quality of life for the most, the bulk of humanity. The US cannot follow suit, it has exhausted it’s physical capabilities except for “military capitalism”, which it pursues.

    Run the above note through your system data, and let me know if you see any truth in it. The definition of efficiency should change after that, to you personally, being the least possible physical exchanges over distance, in time, to “rest” the overheated human logistics, instead attending the planet’s biodiversity beyond human intercourse.

    You could still make a point, insisting on the short-term opportunism of politics, that since there is more conflictive standing between power systems, then synchronism, that the China approach has limited value as a counter measure to US militarism.

    In the end though, rationality, the long term, universal agreement is the only chance. Data analysis, later AI, and the added confidence that humanity and it’s numbers can be tweaked(the biology of genetics will play a big role) should lead up to a more stable and qualitative planetary system, with higher intelligence leading to smarter rule.

    In all the China moves are not very original, at the same time smart in the light of conflicting stands of rivalling nations, infighting. Include the corporate elites, the International Jew conceptualism, and any hidden actors. What we see is infighting of the global elites, have it done with, and attend the real problems and apply the hammer to the nail: population and consumption, toxicity, resource exhaustion, all related negatively to trade.

  39. Momus says:
    @utu

    Netanyahu has no interest in a disintegrated, failed state Syria on Israel’s doorstep.

    He saw the Russians as a support for Assad to prevent this and as a counter balance for the Iranians. Here the Israeli real politik diverged from the US’s

    Russia gained a warm water Mediterranean naval port and an air base.

    The too big for their boots Iranians are now being evicted.

  40. Gordo says:

    Excellent article Dr. Shamir.

  41. m___ says:
    @utu

    — On your questions,

    All of them legitimate, except for Putin as a place holder without defining his hold to told factor.

    Essentially the lifetime of political solutions expires faster as opposed to the rational and long term logic of the necessities of planet earth. That means closer then ever expiration dates.

    While commenting and thus making the same exact mistake, the variables available to the public are tainted with “pesticides”, the farmers(our dear scribes and editors of columns), themselves being dependent on the products of “Bayer” and fertilizer.

    These systemics should be addressed, and the best current model that has shortly gotten the limelight was Wikileaks and the driving force Assange. Whistle-blowers needed, anonymous and encrypted access needed, hardware and software open sourcing, middle-men being algorithms, before a fighting chance to cope with the stealthy elites globally. Then let’s have another go at “analysing”. Our best guess, the quality of argument of our elites’ exchanges will show as very poor indeed, especially in the light of better details on the drivers and needs of geopolitics.

    Guess who keeps silent on this major issue that involves all of us, makes your comments meaningful or just exposing the weaknesses of the bulk of humanity(us) and what dumbstruck suggestions the elites can get away with. Put your energy where it counts! At least be lucid.

    • Replies: @utu
  42. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Renoman

    Who’s going to wipe Israel off the face of the earth?

    • Replies: @hyperbola
  43. In the Oculus Dei, it’s Now.
    But the atheist physicists bow
    To the Arrow of Time.
    Is (((their))) Trinity crime
    Fiat lux! to the Holocaust “how?”

  44. Momus says:
    @Renoman

    Not since Moses has respect, fear and admiration for the Israelites been so high.

    • Replies: @hyperbola
    , @c matt
  45. Jake says:

    ‘There is an incredible abundance of information, a veritable flood that washes off everything. People think only what they are told today, and mass campaigns are produced by media and think tanks, they do not produce themselves. People are being told every day about, say, the Holocaust, or about Assad’s atrocities, or Putin’s meddling so it is kept in their minds. The moment the campaign is turned off, interest flags and the matter is totally forgotten, like the Skripal Affair was forgotten after it had been played to full capacity. Now Skripal has been disappeared by the British Secret Services, but this is not mentioned, outside of this publication.”

    We live in Orwell’s nightmare. And the first step to getting us here was Henry VIII. The second step was the rise of the radical reformation Anglo-Saxon Puritans, who were hardcore Judaizers. The third step was the winning Puritan revolution, which culminated in archetypal WASP Oliver Cromwell making alliance with Jews, inviting Jews back into England, granting Jews special rights and privileges, and doing so precisely so the newly formed culture – WASP, as as American would later title it – could slaughter white Christians native to the British Isles and exterminate their cultures.

    The fourth step was the blessings of Satan spreading that Judaizing war-loving culture around the globe, slaughtering uncounted millions and ruining virtually every ‘traditional’ culture encountered, converting the remains to some step on the ladder toward being Anglicized which means being Judaized.

    • Replies: @m___
    , @Hessler
  46. axbycz says:

    “Jewish wench got the crown of the European art scene”

    Please: Specifically who won what?

    • Replies: @Seamus Padraig
  47. Anonymous[299] • Disclaimer says:

    How come your jive turkey holy Paleostinian dunces were acting out and acting nuts like a St Vitus dance during the allegedly holy month of RamaLamaDingDong? This RamaLama whatever is better spent stuffing yer Muslim guts after sundown than getting shot full of holes. Next year these rage-a-holic Muslims should be holy for their imaginary Allah instead of hole-y- shot full of holes- courtesy of IDF.

  48. There is great video footage of the Putin + Netanyahu + Vucic walk down to the Russian Victory Day walk. My own lift on the Putin-Netanyahu discussions in that the Jewish immigrants we got from you (Russia-USSR) were smart enough to find the back doors to your s-300-400 missile systems. Plus if you cannot hack a system you must hack people. That exiled Russians in Israel knew the right people to hack in Russia because most are tribal members -Jews.

  49. Gordo says:
    @CuriousInSeattle

    How many border fences are you in favour of?

  50. @Momus

    Netanyahu has no interest in a disintegrated, failed state Syria on Israel’s doorstep.
    The too big for their boots Iranians are now being evicted.

    In the last few months Israel has said to Iran
    =You can pay Hamas to pay their clowns to tear down the border fence but IDF bullets will prevent this
    =All significant military assets that you place near us in Syria will be blasted along with your people manning them
    = Syrian skies belong to Israel. We can counteract all Russian missile systems because we have back doors to them. When you turn them on you will see Micky Mouse cartoons.
    = Sure sucks for you that Donald Trump has cut you off. The US sanctions are back meaning you can sell only half the oil you projected for the next few years on International markets.
    =Meaning more chaos and poverty in your failed Allah -Muslim state as it become like Venezuela.
    = Iranian pistachios are the best and we will pay cash for them

    It is also obvious that Israel has replaced Iran as Putin/Russian favorite son. Iranians will be chumps and losers until they depose Ayatollahs and bring back Zoroastrianism. Iranians are not natural Muslims. Only Arabians are.

  51. Dr. X says:
    @RealAmerican

    Since the State of Israel is the fulfillment of the Jewish religion, doesn’t American support for Israel violate the Establishment Clause of the first Amendment?

    Imagine the outcry of the U.S. government gave the Vatican $4 billion annually and established a military base there.

  52. anarchyst says:
    @Wally

    Ursula Haverbeck…
    Monika Schaefer…
    Two 80-plus year-old grandmothers who are doing “hard-time” in maximum-security prisons in Germany for merely questioning the jewish holocaust ™.

    What’s wrong with this picture?

  53. macilrae says:

    Mr Shamir writes with courage, as usual – but is Israel nearing the end of its incredible run of good fortune?

    How extreme do Israeli policies have to become before they are too embarrassing even for the US government to support any longer? I have been asking myself that question since the 1960s.

    A crack has now appeared between the neocon movement with its leader, Netanyahu, and a sizable proportion of Washington’s ‘thinking’ establishment (obviously not including Congress or the MSM!) – a glimmer of daylight filters through this crack. After all, ordinary Americans are looking at $3.69 (California) gasoline and tying this to pressure from Israel and even the opinion polls show them to be massively opposed to Trump’s rejection of the JCPOA.

    It remains to be seen whether the Europeans (forget Donald Tusk and Jean-Claud Juncker!) will follow through on their threats and so come into direct conflict with the US administration but there are signs (beginning with pressure from Germany and even France) that this is now conceivable. And the consequences – closer European ties to Russia and China; partial de-fanging of NATO; retaliatory sanctions; completion of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline – will further isolate the neocons of the US and Israel from the rest of the world.

    If the Europeans are ‘allowed’ to get away with such defiance, who knows what further changes may come about as the two foreign policies diverge – their fetters finally struck off? Will this sentiment then be echoed in the US and, if so, what happens to Israel?

    For those of us who, even now, are muttering “still, thank God it wasn’t Hillary” there is, perversely, even more reason to be hopeful. Maybe this had to happen before reason could ever hope to prevail.

  54. utu says:
    @m___

    At least be lucid.

    Medice, cura te ipsum.

  55. utu says:
    @El Dato

    If Netanyahu objected in 2015 Russia would not move in to Syria. The only reason I can see he did not because he had no backing of Obama administration at that time because he and Obama did not see eye to eye and Syria situation was dragging for too long. The no fly zone should have been imposed and executed on several occasions but it was not. The no fly zone also would de facto kill Iran deal which was being ratified in mid 2015. But Obama would not do it.

  56. AaronB says:
    @Jim Christian

    Europeans are now going through a massive phase of attrition – a great culling, if you will. I suspect 50% of white Europeans in the next few decades will either disappear or be absorbed into a new group.

    This sort of historical calamity is not unusual – take the case of the Jews. Out of twelve tribes, ten completely vanished. And of the two that remained, their numbers dwindled. But a “remnant” remained, and a resurgence occurred.

    So a fifty percent loss of white Europeans may seem like a huge deal now, historically it’s nothing. There will be a lot more pain and humiliation for whites in the coming decades – but these trials will forge a strong new nucleus. This is the price a people always pays when it turns to materialism. Death. There is no avoiding it – it is karma.

    But for the non-materialist, the broad sweep of history is what matters – and after decades or centuries of struggle Europeans will emerge again as a people, with a real religion, healthy once again. There is no need to despair because difficulties are many now. This is historically normal. Evil is frequently wins – that is not so big a deal – but it never lasts. In the meantime, there is much work to do.

  57. America is an Israeli plantation and our Zionist overlords are working us to death for Israel via the wars that we are forced to fight for Israel and via the Zionist privately owned FED and IRS that is taxing us to pay for Israels military and Israels government, ie a government that kills unarmed Palestinian men, women and children.

    To see what the Zionist have done and are doing to we goyim, read THE PROTOCOLS OF ZION.

  58. Soon they will be rounded up and all assets will be frozen around the globe. They will be required to attend an Exit Audit to determine the source of their grotesque wealth and if even a hint of their swindling ways is detected the assets will be forfeited and repatriated. Their co-conspirators will face immediate execution.

    Back to isreel they will be sent to face their new landlords, The Palestinians.

    Never Again, will they be able to practice their trechery as all females will be spayed, and all men neutured. Their global damage will correct itself in time as nationalizm and the laws of nature will sweep over this world.

    Death to Multiculturalism, death to the Globalists. The new American Dream.

  59. @RealAmericanValuesCirca1776Not1965

    I don’t know what is holding back the rest but the Chinese do not see themselves as missionaries. They are willing to help and advise anyone who asks them for help but they are not going to police the World. They are not going to try to export their form of government. Their official policy, and I think it has popular support, is that they want to live at peace with everybody. Hence, without some pressing reason to destroy Israel they are not going to move against them.

    • Replies: @utu
  60. Sam Shama says:
    @AaronB

    If you read Daybreak as a kid your reflection on it displays such in spades: Irrationality is strength and logic begets weakness. That is the best twaddle I’ve seen inked in a long time.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  61. AaronB says:
    @Sam Shama

    lI read it as a teenager.

    As a Jew, you know well that of which I speak – you Jews already “know” the truth, and use logic merely instrumentally – to argue for what you already know, and realize your vision on earth.

    This is what whites must relearn. Firmly anchored in morality and religion, they must “know” the truth, and use logic merely to realize this vision on earth.

    The attempt to use logic to “discover” reality is whites greatest weakness, it leaves them un-anchored and free-floating, and a prey to every people that has the self-confidence that comes from already knowing truth, and not having to discover it.

    Philosophy has shown that logic cannot, by its nature, reveal truth, and science shows that self-contradiction seems built into the universe – logic is merely instrumental. Popular culture merely hasn’t caught up, and slumbers in stupid dogmatism. But it will.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Sam Shama
    , @renfro
  62. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jim Christian

    Until the Muslim gang takes over, ask your patron (Israel) not to cause the migration to the land that also sustains its( Jews) daily living expenses in the stolen land .

  63. Momus says:
    @Wally

    No one who matters is interested in your wackadoodle, hair splitting, orders only in German please, faux debunking.

    The Nazis’ systematic attempts to eradicate Jews from Europe is unassailable fact.

    Old dogs are barking but the caravan has rolled on.

    The Jewish people have regrouped and are forging their nation.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @RadicalCenter
  64. utu says:
    @foolisholdman

    Could China has done more to prop up Russia? Didn’t they realize that having Russia antagonized with the West and keeping this state was to their advantage? Or was it obvious for them from the very beginning that it can’t be done because Russia’s elite fatal attraction to the West can’t be averted? Every time when Putin uttered the phrase “our Western partners” this was a non-ironical expression of deep seated undying aspirations of Russian elites. China will be pragmatic about Russia and will trade and get military technology while she still needs it form Russia, but in long run China is on her own. One thing China has learned form it that a control of elites (who suppose to control them?) is critical that still can be assured by the power structure of CPC that defines Chinese political and economic doctrine and enforce discipline to adhere to them for the elites. Elites like everywhere are cosmopolitan and they have no ethnic or cultural loyalties (except for the Jewish one). Down the road Chinese will want to be a part of Western elites and if they ended up being incorporated by Zio-Anglo-Amercian elites it will be the final triumph of the One World Order.

  65. gwynedd1 says:
    @AaronB

    “All Nietzsche’s hyperventilating aside, the basic issue is between an Enlightenment people that has killed itself with logic, and a non-Enlightenment people that retains vitality because it is still connected to the irrational.”

    An interesting comment. And more or less this is a common thread that is truly Judaeo Christian , in that both find themselves caught between irrational hopes and how it really is. Palestinians are probably full of hope. That have much to fear in being rational.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  66. @CuriousInSeattle

    relatives come under hostile fire

    How come none of them got hurt?

    to destroy a border fence

    A border fence is a fence between two states. Gaza is ruled by Israel like any reservation in the US is ruled from Washington. But your Red Indians can go out and come back. Gaza is a prison camp within Israel.

  67. @axbycz

    I dare you to un-see this! But to answer your question, this is what Shamir was referring to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netta_Barzilai

    Pretty nasty, huh?

  68. anonomy says:

    It would be nice if the Jews and the Muslims could now take their argument back to the Middle-East. This is America on a totally different continent and some of us are trying to make America great again. That’s horrible that the other people who like dead Christians have died on a totally different continent by the hand of the other different people who don’t want to be there on that other continent either if white people suggest they go live there.
    Yes lets make America great again.

  69. AaronB says:
    @gwynedd1

    Palestinians are full of hope.

    I was watching a video clip, and this Palestinian woman with a broad smile, brimming with optimism, said “if we don’t liberate our land, our children will, God willing”. She was not at all dejected at the recent turn of events. She seemed happy.

    If she was a modern rational materialist like Europeans, she’d be depressed and despairing.

  70. utu says:
    @AaronB

    As a Jew, you know well that of which I speak – you Jews already “know” the truth, and use logic merely instrumentally – to argue for what you already know, and realize your vision on earth.

    So what is this truth that Jews do have? Isn’t it just that: “Is it good for the Jews?” What gentiles suppose to do when confronted with it? There are only three options:

    (1) Accept Jewish goal as a universal goals for everybody, meaning that we all will be working to help Jews succeed and make the world Jewish in which Jews will be as special privileged ruling cast.

    (2) Reject and betray our universalism and emulate Jews and try to compete with them using “Is it good for us and screw everybody else?” Why would one want to do it? In name of what? Just convert to Judaism and become one of them and you have the whole enchilada. And it would be much safer.

    (3) Do not betray our universalism. Double down on it and treat Jews as undeveloped children who we must teach how to behave in the big world. They need to learn to play with other children. The first lesson: Never ever ask “Is it good for the Jews?” You must ask: “If I do it is it good for John and Jane?”

    You know very well that (3) is the only correct option. The other two are defeat and surrender. Jews and their Bronze Age ethnocentrism must be fought to the death if humanity worth surviving is to survive. Right now option (1) is what we are de facto doing because we do not challenge Jews mostly out of fear and (2) is what various ethnically conscious gentiles (Kevin MacDonald) are proposing which is “Let’s us become like Jews.”

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @AaronB
    , @Israel Shamir
  71. Mike P says:

    Hasbara trolls out in force. I keep scratching my head over what they hope to achieve by putting their impertinence, callousness, mendacity, and ignorance on display for everyone to see. If a single troll exhibited such traits, you would overlook him; but if the whole team does the same, it clearly establishes a pattern.

    If these keyboard warriors are in any way representative of Israeli attitudes, then I’m indeed worried for Israel.

  72. Herald says:
    @Bliss

    Keeping a promise to do something remarkably stupid is hardly something to be bragged about.

  73. AaronB says:
    @utu

    The Jewish “truth” is that they have a sacred connection to the divine, and that Jewish triumph means the triumph of goodness, God’s divine plan, and in fact the ultimate triumph of all of mankind.

    It is in fact a universal vision – Jewish triumph is not merely tribal, but of universal transcendental significance involving all mankind.

    This is what someone like Thorfinsson does not understand – mere selfish conquest does not inspire many people to heights of heroism or self-sacrifice.

    No, whites should never lose their universalism – they should see Jews as false and perverted bearers of a fake universalism, unworthy of the mantle, and corrupted unto a monstrous selfishness. And the signs of Jewish decline we are beginning to see, like a collapse in accomplishment, are signs they are beginning to feel the effects of their departure from the Tao.

    It’s popular these days to say that whites suffer from altruistic universalism, that is their weakness – but that is false. Whites despise themselves and humiliate themselves before others. This is not universalism – but inverted racism.

    Whites must be firmly anchored in universal morality and religion – this way they will cease despising themselves and cease wishing to humiliate themselves before others. As such, they will seek justice for themselves but not violate that of others. A universal morality requires that whites thrive as much as any group, and to the extent that whites are firmly anchored in transcendental values, white thriving will be co-identical with the welfare of the world and everyone else, not at its expense.

  74. Wally says:
    @Momus

    said:
    “The Nazis’ systematic attempts to eradicate Jews from Europe is unassailable fact.
    The Jewish people have regrouped and are forging their nation.”

    But The Big Lie IS being ‘assailed’ big time and the laughably stupid & completely impossible narrative does not withstand scrutiny. Momus is in denial of science which shreds the absurd ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.

    I suggest to readers here that they access my posts and Momus’s responses to them.
    He was left staring into the headlights of information he absolutely could not refute. In short, he was embarrassed and hopes no one will notice. Just look the language he uses. Desperate name calling with his head in sand and his ass in the air. Excuse my French.
    The simple fact that people are arrested, attacked, & persecuted for engaging in free speech about the scam indicates that even the hateful “Holocau$t Industry” realizes that it doesn’t wash.
    And notice that Momus is afraid to debate his religion at a site which allows no name calling, accepts all views on the subject.

    http://forum.codoh.com

    more:
    The Rudolf Report
    Expert Report on Chemical and Technical Aspects
    of the ‘Gas Chambers’ of Auschwitz

    http://vho.org/GB/Books/trr/index.html

    and another take down of the Babi Yar mass shooting lie:
    Babi Yar
    By John Wear

    https://codoh.com/library/document/5569/?lang=en

    http://www.codoh.com
    And of course his parasitical ‘Israel’ as we know it is going down, sooner or later, it’s doomed.
    ‘Castles made of sand melt into the sea, eventually’.

  75. AaronB says:
    @utu

    I agree, option 3 is the correct one.

    But ethnocentrism cam be part of a universal ethic that respects everyone.

    I love my family more than I love you, utu, and if I didn’t, then the sources of love in me would be dried up, and I couldn’t love anyone at all. My capacity to love you is part of my capacity to love my family first.

    It goes – love of self, family, friends, nation, mankind.

    There are special people -saints – who transcend all these categories, and love all equally. But for most people, lack of ethnocentrism means individualism, and selfishness.

    Nor do I define ethnicity as “pure” – it can be very mixed, but must be tied to a specific location, over many generations, with traditions, etc, and grounded in the transcendental

    • Replies: @utu
    , @m___
  76. anonymous[204] • Disclaimer says:

    [Jews prevailed upon Trump to take his country out of the nuclear deal of six powers, and after that, in the moment of highest tension, Israel bombed so-called Iranian bases in Syria.

    The reason nothing happened is due the fact that PUTIN AND TRUMP BOTH ARE CONNECTED TO zionist Mofia. Stop painting Putin and Russia in a good light. Putin is a traitor and is committing TREASON in Syria. The reason that Putin got involved in Syria was TO KILL MUSLIMS, and establish a food step in the Middle East, a project that Russia desired for A LONG TIME. Now, he is closer to its REAL ALLY, Israel, to implement ODED YINON, meaning partition Syria for the interest of the Jewish Mafia that he like Trump is a member of. The traitor Putin is trying to fool Syrian by forcing its ‘peace plan’, meaning partition Syria under the hoax FEDERATION, like in Iraq to erect the Zionist mafia project meaning ‘kurdistan’ with the traitor and terrorist Kurd, as Zionist pawns. President Assad repeatedly said: We NEVER allow federation.

    http://our-russia.com/08052018072159/russia-bisected-trump-straw-man-theory

    The Mueller investigation by itself is a criminal project where is trying to HIDE THE HAND OF THE JEWISH Mafia in the selection of Trump who is connected to Putin through Israel and its agents. That’s why a few days ago New York Time reported:

    [Donald Trump Junior Met with Gulf Emissary Offering Saudi and UAE Help to Win Presidency]

    This FAKE news appears at ‘globalresearch’, which is stupid, to say the least. The reason behind this kind of FAKE NEWS is to hide the hand of real criminals, Israel and Jewish Mafia in the selection of Trump. The house of Chabad and its billionaire members were involved where are in the business of real estate, whore houses, Casino, gambling, social networking hoax and money laundering, the same kind of people who put Putin in power in 2000.

    [Jared Kushner sealed real estate deal with oligarch's firm cited in money-laundering case ]

    The connection between Putin-Trump is through a Zionist Mafia and some of its member at Chabad :
    Chabad is a Jewish community center on Long Island, sits in a squat brick edifice across from a Shell gas station and a strip mall. The center is an unexceptional building on an unexceptional street, save for one thing: Some of the shortest routes between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin run straight through it. Both Ivanka and Kushner are connected to this house.

    [Ivanka is good friends with Dasha Zhukova, the art-collector wife of oligarch Roman Abramovich, one of the richest men in Russia. Abramovich isn’t just the owner of the Chelsea soccer club; he’s reportedly a member of Putin’s inner circle.In early 2016, the Daily Mail reported that Abramovich had given Putin a $35 million yacht.]

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/the-happy-go-lucky-jewish-group-that-connects-trump-and-putin-215007

    Both Putin and Trump and his family are close to Chabad:
    [As leader of the Chabad-Lubavitch movement, he took an insular Hasidic group that almost came to an end with the Holocaust and transformed it into one of the most influential movements in world Jewry, with an international network of over 3,000 educational and social centers. The institutions he established include kindergartens, schools, drug-rehabilitation centers, care-homes for the disabled and synagogues.]

    https://washingtonmonthly.com/2017/11/27/the-odd-chabad-connection-between-putin-and-trump/

    Let’s begin here:
    [Starting in 1999, [Vladimir] Putin enlisted two of his closest confidants, the oligarchs Lev Leviev and Roman Abramovich, who would go on to become Chabad’s biggest patrons worldwide, to create the Federation of Jewish Communities of Russia under the leadership of Chabad rabbi Berel Lazar, who would come to be known as “Putin’s rabbi.”

    [There’s a good chance that if you know of Roman Abramovich, you know him as the owner of the Chelsea Football Club of the English Premier League. You may not know that he was a victor (along with Paul Manafort’s patron Oleg Deripaska) in the bloody aluminum wars of the 1990s, or that he was reportedly the person who convinced Boris Yeltsin that Putin would be a proper successor. You probably are not aware that Ivanka Trump is very close friends with Abramovich’s wife, Dasha Zhukova, with whom she recently attended the U.S. Open tennis tournament in Queens. Zhukova reportedly attended the inauguration as Ivanka’s personal guest.]

    It takes a little more doing to understand the Trump family’s connections to Lev Leviev.
    To begin with, we need to go back to Bayrock, the company that Donald Trump teamed up with to build his Trump Soho project. There were three main actors in that enterprise. One was convicted mob associate and murky FBI informant Felix Sater. Another was Tevfik Arif, a shady man with likely Russian intelligence connections who was once was arrested by the Turks on Mustafa Kamal Ataturk’s yacht and “charged with running an international underage prostitution ring.” The third was the late Tamir Sapir, another man with ties to Russian intelligence. If you’re interested in this aspect of the story, I refer you to my Trump’s Soho Project, the Mob, and Russian Intelligence article and also Mike Lofgren’s piece: Mobbed Up, both written in late February.

    Interestingly, all these men have connections to the CHABAD MOVEMENT. Felix Sater was honored as Man of the Year in 2014 by the Port Washington Chabad house. The same Chabad house’s website lists Tevfik Arif, who is not Jewish, “among its top 13 benefactors.”

    Photo of Addelson and Levi Shemtov, Chabad

    • Replies: @anonomy
    , @anon
    , @utu
  77. utu says:
    @AaronB

    grounded in the transcendental

    You seem to be grounded alright and nowhere near transcendental. Your BS is getting tiresome.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  78. Sam Shama says:
    @AaronB

    As a Jew, you know well that of which I speak – you Jews already “know” the truth, and use logic merely instrumentally – to argue for what you already know, and realize your vision on earth.

    No; I do not know of that which you speak. Making grand, mystical sounds, and proclaiming “Jews do this” or “Jews-do-that”, does not a sound argument make.

    You are right about logic, though. It is an instrument to be used liberally to suit one’s object. And it does require a vision, which is the object.

    Philosophy is delightful for those times when leisure is in your hands aplenty. Perhaps when the world mends; in the meantime, there is work to be done :)

    You say: “Popular culture merely hasn’t caught up, and slumbers in stupid dogmatism. But it will.” Sounds very much like a dogma you’ve swallowed hook line and sinker, especially that last little gem.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @AaronB
  79. anonomy says:
    @anonymous

    The Other administration before this one, bombed the whole Middle East and parts of Africa., and has our troops spread thin on some other continent creating Democracy and fighting for the rights of Muslim women. Now let’s see, the Clinton administration brought down the whites in Serbia for the Muslims to have their own land and bombed Afghanistan after the USS Cole Bombing but the terrorist bases were Empty. The Iraq Liberation act was also signed during the Clinton Admin, and the Mrs wrote how her husband was going to do something about Afghanistan. Then instead of Liberating Iraq the military was sent to liberate the women of Afghanistan even Code Pink was happy and the women of Afghanistan love their US Marine Protection. Oh but when to Iraq, poor Bush, then on to the other administration, Syria, Libya, Tunisia, Yemen and parts of Africa. All LEFTY marxist nation builders.

    • Replies: @Hessler
  80. @Biff

    Biff, Hitler understood that if/that zionists established their plantation in Palestine, that cycle would change inexorably.

    Zionists/Jews now have an enclave out of which they cannot be kicked — something more like a gangster hideaway.

    Zionism’s leaders have set up and run Israel on a basis nearly completely divorced from the processes “civilized societies” at least give lip service to.

    The world must contend with the existence of the physical establishment, Israel.

    Other states may, if they can summon the cojones, pressure Israel to behave in a more civilized manner — declare and remain inside borders; subscribe to international treaties that monitor extremely dangerous weapons, etc. This is a hard sell but possible if a combine of nations exert their will, and recognize their self-interest.

    What should be a less difficult task is for states that are NOT Israel to insist on their sovereignty and complete independence from Israel. Politicians don’t do things unless they are forced. It looks like the people are going to have to rise up and pressure US political leaders to divorce from an abusive ‘relationship,’ “for the sake of the children.”
    Failing that, the only other alternative history has offered is for the “Cossacks to ride again” and expel all Jews from nations where some Jews are oppressing all non-Jews, as Poland did in the 1930s.

    • Replies: @Mulegino1
    , @Sam Shama
  81. AaronB says:
    @Sam Shama

    Indeed it is a dogma – and as such not open to debate.

  82. AaronB says:
    @utu

    On the contrary. If you learned to appreciate what you call bs, your world weariness and poor spirits might lift.

  83. anonymous[204] • Disclaimer says:

    [The strongest voice against Israeli brutality was that of President Erdogan of Turkey. He sent Israeli ambassador home, called back his own ambassador, and organised a meeting of Muslim states’ leaders to deal with Israel.]

    You have NO clue about the Zionist servant, Erdogan, that why he is doing this show.
    He is an IMPOSTER and conducting THIS SHOW to capture hearts and minds of Arab against the current Iranian government where is supporting Palestinians right continually OVER 70 YEARS.
    Turkey is the first Muslim country to recognize an illegitimate entity since 1948 NON STOP . Turkey never called its ambassador home, even when Israel was killing Palestinians or even Turkish citizens.
    Apparently the Zionist mafia man, Putin, is having an affair with Erdogan to force Assad and Iran to accept Zionist plan in the name of ‘peace’ so Putin can implement ODED YINON to erect ‘kurdistan’. This plan never take place and Putin must get lost now.

    https://www.lightonconspiracies.com/trumps-russia-ties-really-jewish-ties/

    Erdogan and his family have been in direct business with Israel for all these years.
    Erdogan and corrupt Barzani family were shipping OIL STOLEN from Iraq to Israel passing through Turkey and cashing in millions of dollars buying mansions abroad.
    The Arabs and people in the region are not going to be fooled by Zionist servants such as Erdogan and Putin. Putin never attack Israel for his crimes against humanity when they were killing Palestinian babies, because both are enemies of Muslims.

  84. bjondo says:
    @Rational

    The State of Hate for the Haters.

    Where ever they are they can be called “Haters”.

    In occupied Palestine the hate is so concentrated the Haters will implode into oblivion.

  85. AaronB says:
    @Sam Shama

    Philosophy is delightful for those times when leisure is in your hands aplenty. Perhaps when the world mends; in the meantime, there is work to be done :)

    And indeed well said. Philosophy is idle – we must have our dogmas and work aggressively to realize them on earth. That is a lesson you Jews can help us relearn.

    Philosophy’s only purpose is to destroy philosophy, in the manner of Nagarjuna.

    You are right about logic, though. It is an instrument to be used liberally to suit one’s object. And it does require a vision, which is the object

    Well said again. A vision is required – then you work to realize it. Logic cannot get you a vision, it can only destroy it – thus, it is merely an instrument, and not to be taken too seriously.

  86. bjondo says:
    @CuriousInSeattle

    I will modify a bit Israel Shamir’s ,”Gaza is a prison camp…” to “Gaza is a concentration-extermination-weapons-testing prison.”

    • Agree: Druid
  87. m___ says:
    @Jake

    There is an incredible abundance of information, a veritable flood that washes off everything

    Hiding by layers of sand. Things could be simple though. Cheap drones and cameras are the on the spot journalists tools to be, all parties as such should be unhindered to document their point of the clash, giving real time overview and as such making opinionating meaningful. Comments on unreferenced(no drones, no audio, no images, no video) events are absurd.

    The revision of the Convention of Geneva should give unarmed surveillance drones ambulance status. War, conflict, will then become as soccer, arena sports. The circus, the gamejjk, can then be weighted by any human with a brain as to what it has become: policing of the masses, and creating waste-land areas of toxicity. The truth, the composite of the data could then be readily consumed at convenient times, on the couch, in one’s underwear. Politicians and op-eds would go the way of the horse.

    Observing complete dialogues of back-room sessions in the caves of the UN, Washington, the Trump Tower, the Kremlin and on should not be off limits. Since privacy is then the right of the privileged only, and does not go both ways.

    The single suggestion above, affordable, even cheap, and there are many others that modern consumer electronics allow, would approach first hand democracy worthy of the name. Since conflicts reverberate globally, they are no longer local but to the to be homeless being coincidentally present. It can be said that any deplorable anywhere on the globe has an interest. Make it a voting interest by allowing transparency?

    The biggest expense of the welfare budget: financing a hideous administration, public sector, elected politicians, corporate middle managers-pushers that drive the exploits of the commoner could then be privatized. They, not the poor are the largest chunk of wastful expenditure of the common good.

    Global politics as played out today, should become as comprehensible as the scenes of a camera showing a customer giving head to the cab driver so as to pay the fare. As the Holocaust, what cannot be readily observed, established, accounted for should not be considered as real.

    As Nero burns the suburbs of Rome, we want to sit on the first row.

    • Replies: @DN
  88. Mulegino1 says:

    The Nazis’ systematic attempts to eradicate Jews from Europe is unassailable fact.

    What do you mean by eradicate? If you mean uproot or remove, you would be correct. The total/final solution was for the Jews to leave Germany, the German sphere of influence ,and eventually, Europe.

    On the other hand, there never was any plan conceived of or executed to murder all of the Jews of Europe. The fake “Holocaust” narrative is not about the Jews leaving Europe or being forced out, since such an occurrence is common throughout their history, i.e., when their numbers and influence reach critical mass in any society, their continued presence there becomes an intolerable burden for their hosts, so they are forced to leave. The age old solution of expulsion was simply envisioned on a larger geographical scale. If past performance is indeed indicative of future results, it should be noted that the expulsions worked quite well for the host countries. Jewry is little prone to self-examination in a collective sense. If an individual is thrown out of one hotel for creating a disturbance, this may well have been the result of a misunderstanding. If the same individual has been thrown out of hundreds of hotels for the same reason, then it is almost certainly the fault of the guest and not the hotel industry.

    The nucleus of the fake “Holocaust” is the murder of some 4 million Jews said to have occurred at six so called “extermination camps” – Auschwitz-Birkenau, Treblinka II, Belzec, Sobibor, Chelmno and Majdanek (Lublin). The murders were said to have been carried out in “gas chambers” which used either a commercially available pesticide- Zyklon (Auschwitz-Birkenau and Majdanek), so called “gas vans” (Chelmno) or non-lethal diesel exhaust (Treblinka II). We can discount the tales of electrified floors at Belzec, delayed reaction poison gas, execution by tree felling, etc. The gas chamber legend has been falsified. There were no homicidal gas chambers in any of the German camps. The methods claimed to have been employed are technical absurdities, and the numbers of victims logistical impossibilities. A realistic assessment of Jews who died at Birkenau (of all causes, including typhus) would be in the lower tens of thousands, not 1.2 million as is now claimed (down from the original claim of 4 million). The alleged 800,000 killed at Treblinka II appears to be a complete free invention. There is simply nothing there- no traces of mass graves, massive amounts of human remains, wood ash, etc. Nothing.

    The Germans and eventually most Europeans will be paying the price for this non-crime in shekels, but the Palestinians are paying the price with blood and the theft of their homes, farms and orchards.

  89. anon[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    If you’re interested in this aspect of the story, I refer you to my Trump’s Soho Project, the Mob, and Russian Intelligence article and also Mike Lofgren’s piece: Mobbed Up, both written in late February.

    link?

    • Replies: @anonymous
  90. utu says:
    @anonymous

    The Chabad issue has been raised under previous articles of Israel Shamir but he seemed to dismiss it saying that Chabad was not as strong or influential and so on. Personally I liked this ‘deep background’ conspiracy theory with Chabad playing the first fiddle:

    Trump—–Chabad—–Netanyahu—–Chabad——Putin

    Certainly there are many connections. There is money and there are curious and hard to explain Trump’s advantages that he displayed in 2015 and 2016 that only could be explained by Trump’s access to the first rate intelligence sources. He must have received them from Netanyahu rather than as some believed from some enigmatic American Patriots in Pentagon whose existence was stipulated by wishful thinking of patriotic Trump supporters. Furthermore, Trump himself could not come up with a multilayer stratagem. There were some serious analysts and planners who created it. Most likely Trump did not know what was a sham and what was for real. Though his handlers did. Most likely he believed in his pro-American platform, however his handlers knew they would be able to derail this part with the help of media and Democrats to strip his platform from anything pro-American and leave only the bare bones Zionist part which most Americans who voted for Trump barely even noticed that this Zionist part existed. But here we are: Oligarchy got the tax cut, Jerusalem is recognized as Israel’s capital and Iran deal is reneged and sanctions on Iran will be imposed.

    We know much less what Putin really expected from his intervention in Syria. If he did not intervene Syria would fall in 2015/16 and chaos would reign as envisioned by the Yinon Plan. Various factions of Rebels and ISIS would be slaughtering each other which would be to the delight of Israel. So why Israel let Russia move in to prevent it form happening and prolonging the agony of Assad regime? The only thing that comes to my mind is that Israel feared that Turkey would take too big advantage of the situation and Russia’s move was to keep Turkey from feasting too much on the carcass of Syria and moving its border too close to Israel. After all Turkey is a semi-secular Muslim nation which by definition of Yinon Plan are the biggest threat to Israel in the ME.

    • Replies: @utu
  91. tac says:
    @Renoman

    And isn’t it ironic that they (the Israeli cabal and their sycophants) project onto others (especially the Palestinians) their utter lack of humanity and visceral hatred without an ounce of introspection? The outright lies and the unashamed amounts they produce in their whimsical fantasy that they live in–which is so counter to reality–one can only wonder how such peoples can live in a web-of-lies and are reticent to speak out, with the exception of a few, yet somehow follow such grotesque distortions of reality with unquestioning sympathies.

    Stories such as this one will never garner any serious attention is the mainstream press–no wonder anyone with any semblance of critical thought should rightly never tune-in to their propaganda … support BDS movement:

    • Replies: @Hessler
  92. Mulegino1 says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Indeed, Hitler understood this all too well.

    The German Reich and certain Zionist organizations did collaborate on certain projects, such as emigration to Palestine- since they both had the same goal- to have the Jews leave Germany. However, Hitler knew- and explicitly stated- that a Jewish state in Palestine was a bad idea, and would lead to nothing more than the foundation of a criminal state serving as a redoubt and headquarters for Jewry’s belligerency and criminality and a haven for fugitives from justice. In addition, it is now the headquarters of the greatest shakedown and fraud in modern history, namely the guilt shaming and extortion of Christian Europeans via the fake narrative of the 6 million.

    No wonder they hated Hitler. Telling the truth garners the hatred of those who hate the truth.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  93. Sam Shama says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    … other alternative history has offered is for the “Cossacks to ride again” and expel all Jews from nations …..

    Plainly obvious that your descent to a full-fledged would-be killer of innocent Jews is complete. When we first exchanged pleasantries back in 2015, you were merely struggling with the bottle, showing only nascent signs of the seething hate on full display now, with the passage of three years.

    Quite sure I can outride your inner Cossack, though.

  94. Mulegino1 says:
    @utu

    Then, when the Jews can exhibit as their work such jewels and golden vessels as the European nations of a briefer and less profound experience could not and cannot produce, when Israel will have transformed its eternal vengeance into an eternal blessing for Europe: then there will again arrive that seventh day on which the ancient Jewish God may rejoice in himself, his creation and his chosen people and let us all, all of us, rejoice with him!

    Except there are very few “jewels and golden vessels” produced by the Jews in a cultural or artistic sense, and even these are of secondary importance. The entirety of their scientific achievements have only been possible when standing on the shoulders of the great gentile scientists who preceded them. Einstein was good at publicity hounding but is strongly suspected of plagiarizing his European contemporaries. In any case, his Serbian wife was responsible for doing the math- literally; since Serbs do not, unlike a certain other ethnic group, control the media or the Nobel selection process, she was out of luck.

    The elevation of the Jews as a “nation of creative geniuses” is dependent upon the degradation of intellect, tastes, manners and mores in their host societies. The more the people become absorbed with things like entertainment, spectacle, and triviality- things at which the Jews excel- the Jews gain the upper hand in the dictation of value.

  95. Sam Shama says:
    @Mulegino1

    The truth is this: Hitler was a mentally unstable man with a peculiar moustache more suited to a comic than the strongman he wanted to be seen as. He got what he deserved in the end [taking on the Allies, an adversary with vastly superior capabilities]: a self-inflicted bullet in the head.

    • Replies: @Mulegino1
  96. Art says:

    In short, the Jews overcame their problems by mid-May 2018, and emerged as a leading polity on the planet Earth, in perfect rapport with both superpowers and in control over mind of billions. The massacre of Gaza furnished the proof they can kill with impunity.

    Can we disagree? Putin remains in power over “war no war” in the ME. By not putting in s-300s into Syria, he avoided war. His defensive weapons own Israel’s future. He is the player – Israel went hat in hand to Russia.

    Trump’s embassy move and the killing in Gaza looks bad for Israel. In world opinion, Gaza won the righteousness battle hands down. The US has lost its stature as an honest broker in the ME. This is a major lose for the Israeli Jews – the unfairness of the last 70 years, is glaring. Alas, another lie about the sick situation is 100% exposed.

    The sanctions on Iran are dividing US/Israel from the rest of the world. If Russia, China, and Europe balk, then the mighty Jew central banking system will take a big hit.

    Things are looking up for the good guys.

    Think Peace — Art

  97. Realist says:
    @Wally

    t’s called force, coercion, jail sentences.

    How did 2.2% of the US population get control of US White gentiles?

    Shoving the fake ’6M Jews’ down everyone’s throat has done the job as well. Power and cash are the man reason the scam was created in the first place. And Jews have been trying that lie since at least 1823.

    So White gentiles are stupid?

    • Replies: @Mulegino1
    , @m___
    , @Wally
    , @CanSpeccy
  98. hyperbola says:
    @Momus

    Lets remember that Israel was NOT established by the UN and that christians have suffered from jewish tribal racist-supremacism even more than moslems in Palestine. That it is time to end the “jewish state” is increasingly widely understood.

    The Great March of Return and Israel’s Attack on Gaza: Canadian Opposition
    Open letter from Canadian organizations on Gaza massacre

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-great-march-of-return-and-israels-attack-on-gaza-canadian-opposition/5641281

    …. IJV Canada statement on the 70th Anniversary of the Nakba

    Seventy years have passed since the state of Israel was established in Palestine. As a direct result, hundreds of Palestinian villages were destroyed, thousands were killed and and hundreds of thousands were rendered homeless. For Zionists, 15 May 1948, marks the culmination of ambitions to create a Jewish-majority state; for Palestinians, it marks what came to be known as al-Nakba: the Catastrophe.

    Independent Jewish Voices Canada (IJV) is a grassroots organization grounded in Jewish tradition that opposes all forms of racism and advocates for justice and peace for all in Israel-Palestine. Today, IJV stands in solidarity with Palestinians marking and mourning 70 years since the 1948 Nakba.

    Palestinians say, “the Nakba continues!” and it is the shameful truth. The Israeli government systematically imprisons Palestinian children, it continues to colonize Palestinian land for Jewish-only settlement in collaboration with the Jewish National Fund, and of course denies Palestinian refugees their right to return.

    The ongoing Nakba has perhaps been hardest on Palestinians in Gaza, who live in what is known as the world’s largest open-air prison, largely cut off from the outside world and subject to repeated aerial bombing campaigns. We dedicate a special message of solidarity to them, currently mourning the death yesterday and today of more than 60 people and the wounding of over 2000 others by Israeli snipers. The bravery they exhibit in facing the Israeli army speaks to the desperation of their situation, but also of the undying Palestinian will for justice and return to the land they call home.

    Let this latest string of massacres be a wake up call to the world. We call on Canadians, and fellow Jewish Canadians in particular, to join us not only in acknowledging and mourning the Nakba, but in doing all that we can to put an end to it……

  99. Realist says:
    @Jim Christian

    Because Carl and Rob Reiner and Norman Lear said so. Remember them?

    Yes, I remember them. But only idiots would march into oblivion…because someone told them to.

  100. hyperbola says:
    @Anon

    It should be a joint project of most of humanity. Murderous tribal racist-supremacists have no place in the modern world.

    Why Israel Has No “Right To Exist” As A Jewish State

    https://www.countercurrents.org/bendo211107.htm

    • Replies: @Echoes of History
  101. hyperbola says:
    @Momus

    Who is Moses? That silly story was exposed as nothing more than tribal propaganda ages ago. By now we not only know that there is no evidence of his existence in Egypt and the pyramids were built over 1000 before the fake story.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Druid
  102. anonymous[204] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Here you are:

    https://washingtonmonthly.com/2018/04/17/michael-cohen-gets-a-special-visit/

    [It takes a little more doing to understand the Trump family’s connections to Lev Leviev. To begin with, we need to go back to Bayrock, the company that Donald Trump teamed up with to build his Trump Soho project. There were three main actors in that enterprise. One was convicted mob associate and murky FBI informant Felix Sater. Another was Tevfik Arif, a shady man with likely Russian intelligence connections who was once was arrested by the Turks on Mustafa Kamal Ataturk’s yacht and “charged with running an international underage prostitution ring.” The third was the late Tamir Sapir, another man with ties to Russian intelligence. If you’re interested in this aspect of the story, I refer you to my Trump’s Soho Project, the Mob, and Russian Intelligence article and also Mike Lofgren’s piece: Mobbed Up, both written in late February.]

    https://washingtonmonthly.com/2017/02/20/trumps-soho-project-the-mob-and-russian-intelligence/

    • Replies: @renfro
    , @utu
  103. @hyperbola

    Purporting that certain kinds of humans “have no place in the modern world” is a position that can be held only by a “murderous tribal racist-supremacist.”

    Isn’t it ironic, don’t you think?

    • Replies: @hyperbola
  104. c matt says:
    @Momus

    Fear – sure, such a small rather insignificant polity basically has the world by the gonads coupled with a suicidal desire for power over all others. Well played.

    Respect and admiration, not so much.

  105. renfro says:
    @Bliss

    You must not have been paying attention to what Trump was saying during the campaign. When was the last time a President kept so many of his promises so fast?

    He kept his promises to his Jewish Israeli casino donor, Sheldson Adelson , not to his voters.

  106. Mulegino1 says:
    @Sam Shama

    Most of what we are told or taught in school about Hitler is rubbish. The main reason he is demonized is that international Jewry needs a lightning rod to deflect from its own criminality. Hitler was an effective leader and visionary statesman who was far ahead of his time. His “crime” is that Germany lost the war, and the victors always write the history books.

    One wonders at what point the people of Europe will wake up to the truth about Hitler and the Second World War and start asking themselves a few simple questions: “Are we better off or worse off than in 1939? Is it possible that Hitler was right, and that we the people really lost the war? Did those who fought against Hitler do so so that Europe could be flooded with third world refugees, its spirituality bankrupted, its culture perverted and its identity lost?”

  107. renfro says:
    @Wally

    “Why in hell did the White gentiles allow the Jews to get so powerful?”

    Because most Americans didn’t know what they were doing.

    As the Jewish lobby says about itself…..” “A lobby is like a night flower: it thrives in the dark and dies in the sun.”

    https://www.jta.org/2009/03/17/news-opinion/politics/freeman-affair-sheds-sunshine-on-night-flower-steve-rosen

    Of course the Jew dominated media still hides it from Americans…..but its gotten some sunlight in the past several years ….thanks to the internet.

  108. renfro says:
    @CuriousInSeattle

    If a bunch of people try to destroy a border fence, what do you think would be an appropriate response?

    First of all Israel doesn’t have legal borders,

    Second, the appropriate response to Israelis by Palestines would be to kill them for stealing their land and ghettorizing them.

    That’s what I would do if it were my land and family.

    • Replies: @L.K
    , @Karl
  109. Mulegino1 says:
    @Realist

    The problem is not so much gentile stupidity but gentile naivete and the propensity to fall for the “Big Lie” strategy which, as a long effective artifice, international Jewry knows how to employ with unparalleled expertise.

    A majority – albeit a declining one- is simply not ready to wrap their minds around the possibility that pretty much everything they have been taught at home and school, preached to about, propagandized with by Hollywood and the kosher entertainment and media complex with respect to the Second World War, the Third Reich and the subsequent Cold War is a farrago of falsehood and cynical distortion of the truth.

    The argumentum ad Holocaustiam is Jewry’s final ploy for deflecting the criminality of its international leadership and elites. Thanks to the liberation of information due to the rise of the internet, people are wising up very quickly to this nonsense. The ideological foundation of the Anglo-Zionist empire- the myth of the “Good War” and the “Holocaust” is crumbling quickly.

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Josecanuc
    , @Wally
  110. renfro says:
    @Vojkan

    If anyone thinks Putin trust anyone I have some timeshare in Syria to sell them.

    Putin is the epitome of a Russian Nationalist. And he has decided that ‘statesman like diplomacy’ in the international circle is the way to garner international influence for the benefit of Russia.

    Study his history.

    • Replies: @Vojkan
  111. @Momus

    Here you are mistaken: Netanyahu has interest in a disintegrated, failed state Syria on Israel’s doorstep. This is exactly what he wants. This is what he tried to achieve, even by alliance with Jihadees.
    Russians can’t stay in Syria without Iranian support.

  112. m___ says:
    @Realist

    So White gentiles are stupid?

    White gentiles, the ones that count are as Jewish, Judaic, call it whatever you like in affiliation and method as is the case with Israel. This is evident also in anything twentieth century, from banking to war. Why?

    Because the philosophy of power does not allow for anything else. Power m-u-s-t be ruthless, unforgiving, gratuitous, elitist, bargaining, experimenting. The blueprint of any day is “us, there is but the other to serve us, or be erased at will, there is no tomorrow”. Can you blame the proper Western elites to rally within the Jewish knot, the only international network in existence that does something else then cower down?

    The pack of the gentiles with sufficient comprehension, are atomic, physically cowardly, do not “kill” their own betrayers, thus pollute their own environment, do not act as worthy of dominance, elitist privilege is strange to them, thus they define themselves as victims, the fray.

    Most probably, the largest factor to be blamed is the Roman Catholic church, the Jesus thing, a universalistic philosophy, based on victim-ship and tolerance of it. Now do not mention the Crusades, or Hitler, they were rather taken as a lesson how not to be humiliated once over, again.

    In simple terms, Palestinians are the other(in the eye of the elites), “us” means as to anyone not explicitly included(Palestinians, as much as white gentiles, Africans of all sorts, the easy one: Arabs, Muslims(the art of selling out revisited) and on). No love waisted, the angle of importance is that the benign theatre of experiment is what will happen to these cocooning non-stupid gentiles. That is the real importance of Gaza. Learn, which side of the border do you want to make your stance.

    The infighting of the elites has gentlemanly rules(they kiss and flower each other from Putin to Trump over Merkel and Netanyahu, they quarrel far distant from their lair), as to their unanimous consent, that one is clear: no rules, gloves of to all others, including all and white gentiles.

    • Replies: @Realist
  113. @utu

    excellent! If you’d overcome your aversion to socialism, you still can become a fully human person!))

    • Replies: @utu
  114. Wally says:
    @Realist

    Please pay attention.

    The Jew crap is forced upon them, mandated by law.

    And Jews are much more than 2.2% of the population. Many refuse to be counted / are instructed not to be counted, others do not select ‘Jewish’ in the religion part of censuses, but consider themselves to be Jews.

    Wow, you’re filled with strawmen. LOL

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Realist
  115. anonymous[204] • Disclaimer says:

    Trump’s Russia ties are really Jewish ties

    Israel A MAFIA STATE:

    Some 25% of the revenue of Israel’s lauded high-tech sector comes from shady or fraudulent industries; three-quarters of MKs are said to be in thrall to special interest groups

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/is-israel-becoming-a-mafia-state/

    [The woman was referring to the massive growth of organized crime in Israel over the past ten years, as well as the fact that Israel has become one of the world’s leading exporters of investment scams, stealing an estimated $5 billion to $10 billion per year from victims worldwide.]

    https://www.lightonconspiracies.com/trumps-russia-ties-really-jewish-ties/

    When in the US are talking about ‘Russian Mafia’, it means really JEWISH MAFIA

  116. Wally says:
    @Mulegino1

    Indeed, Germany lost and half of Europe became communist.
    Yet the ‘Allies’ claim victory.

    http://www.codoh.com

  117. anonymous[739] • Disclaimer says:

    Yes, sadly true.

    I also note some once intelligent, honest, fair and balanced magazines and blogs have gone under to the Zionists/Neo Conservatives/Neo Liberals.

    The Atlantic Magazine – now run by a Goldberg that served as a prison guard for the IDF in the last Intafada. He bonded with the Palestinian rebels and worked to get them visas and contacts in the US academia, or just move to the West to replace evil White racist Trump voters.

    David Frum – “The Axis of Evil” worst ever speech writer now works for The Atlantic Magazine.

    And today, we learn that one of the few remaining Old Right resisters to the Neo Conservative/Zionist/New World Order has been taken over by the J tribe:

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/benjamin-schwarz-named-new-editor-of-the-american-conservative/

    Maybe the prophesies are true that the Jewish Messiah will appear once the Jews have regained all of Jerusalem – maybe it’s the Beast or the Anti Christ or the Devil.

    One of my least favorite groups are the “Left Behind” “Rapture” crowd – who insists that all the Good American Christians will get Raptured and only bad people will be Left Behind, in the meantime the only things we should do is to:

    Support Jewish Israel and all things Jewish
    Send in $ money to the Religious Right Christian Zionists
    Vote for RINOs and watch the Negro Felon League NFL

    Any questions?

    • Replies: @utu
  118. Olorin says:

    The guy holding the flag in the graphic looks like Jackie Chan.

    • Replies: @Karl
  119. renfro says:
    @AaronB

    As a Jew, you know well that of which I speak – you Jews already “know” the truth, and use logic merely instrumentally – to argue for what you already know, and realize your vision on earth.

    Jews have no ‘knowledge’…..they have mythical history and delusions of grandeur. There is no logic in their arguments or their visions…..all their offense and defense always falls back on the mythical chosen and the Jewish victimhood.

    So I have to assume you are advocating that gentiles/anglos/ etc also adopt mythical self promotion and the ethnic manifest destiny of white Europeans as a way to counter the Jews.

    That might, as the Jews illustrate, work on some but in the end reality is fluid and catches up with delusions.

    Power is also fluid….it crest and recedes….which is what is going on in the world right now…..the final holder of power at any given time is the decider at that time….until the next holder of the power creates a new reality.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  120. m___ says:
    @AaronB

    I agree, option 3 is the correct one. and on…

    Calisthenics at work. Defining universal: everything to be shared by all “ethically” reverberating again on all. Or is it including future generations(capitalism and theoretical economics, communism, the Chinese flavour of rule, the Russian one all at fault).

    The easy answer. There is no such choice as to rally to the Jewish pool. Invitation only. Jewish universality is “everything for us”. That leaves no room. Or the Jews or the non-Jew. When the Jew is neutered, then, only then, universalism can be tried as defined “everything to be shared by all (left to be)” and better.

    Whether that mentality will get the upper hand from the Jewish dominance. Keep dreaming. The biggest problems of white gentiles: their elites sold out, and the even bigger elephant: the history load and philosophy of Roman Catholicism. Being present for a thousand years, this must have become a genetic trait of “submission disorder”.

  121. Realist says:
    @Wally

    The Jew crap is forced upon them, mandated by law.

    You pay attention.

    Who elects the people who makes the laws? Hint:White gentiles.

    And Jews are much more than 2.2% of the population.

    Citation.

    Many refuse to be counted / are instructed not to be counted, others do not select ‘Jewish’ in the religion part of censuses, but consider themselves to be Jews.

    ‘Jewish’ can be religion, race/ethnicity or both.

    Wow, you’re filled with strawmen. LOL

    You’re filled with something but it’s not straw men.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Wally
  122. Realist says:
    @m___

    Those who do not rise up against their oppressors are stupid.

  123. Realist says:
    @Mulegino1

    The problem is not so much gentile stupidity but gentile naivete and the propensity to fall for the “Big Lie” strategy which, as a long effective artifice, international Jewry knows how to employ with unparalleled expertise.

    Naivete becomes stupidity very quickly.

    • Replies: @Wally
  124. Druid says:
    @Mulegino1

    Well said. The Holohoax is a disgusting phenomenon

  125. Druid says:
    @hyperbola

    The shitty little tribe probably originated in what is today Yemen/Saudi Arabia! Nothing to do with Egypt. Another theft on their part for significance

  126. AaronB says:

    Right, I mean simply Jews have a narrative about themselves, their place in the world, and their connection to God that they implicitly believe and do not question using logic.

    All their energy then goes into translating this vision into reality. Europeans destroyed all their narratives. Jews direct all their energy toward realizing a vision – Europeans towards discovering a vision.

    Which group operates from a position of stremgth? The group that knows exactly what it wants and sets out to do it – or the group that is still trying to figure out what it wants?

    I am suggesting Europeans develop a clear idea of what they want – based on a clear identity, based on a clear religious vision and what constitutes transcendental values. This cannot be accomplished through open-ended logical inquiry – but is fundamentally a non-rational task. Therefore logic has to be downgraded in European intellectual life.

    That’s basically what I’m saying. I’m hardly saying we should copy Jewish ethnocentrism or adopt their metaphysical beliefs. Ours should be quite different – but we must have metaphysical beliefs. And we dont, now. We live by the Enlightenment tradition of open ended inquiry. That is a weak way to live. Time to admit this kind of rational inquiry cannot yield us a vision worth living and fighting for.

    Power is also fluid….it crest and recedes….which is what is going on in the world right now…..the final holder of power at any given time is the decider at that time….until the next holder of the power creates a new reality.

    Absolutely, but the laws that govern this process are not random either.

  127. renfro says:
    @anonymous

    Add this ….

    December 22, 2017 at 9:15 pm GMT • 900 Words

    A primer on the Trump question. Follow the trail.

    Trump —> Kushner—>NY Chabad Jews—>Russian Oligrach members of the Chabad Jews—->Russian RE investors—–>Deutsche Bank in Germany—>Trump and Kusners loans from Deutsche bank—->Jewish Russian stockholders in Deutsche Bank—–>Deutsche Bank launders money for Russians —->Jewish CEO of Deutsche moves to Bank of Cyprus—–>Cyprus investment vehicle fined for laundering money through real estate—–>Natalia Veselnitskaya, the Russian lawyer who met during the presidential campaign with Donald Trump Jr. was attorney for Cyprus firm.
    Its a circular web .Trump is owned….without the Jew and Chabah connection to Jewish Oligachs at Kushner’s Chabad and Deutsche Bank his RE deals would have been over. No US bank or investors were willing to loan him money after his bankrupacy .

    Read it all at the links It will settle the question of whether Trump is some kind of genius or an idiot. He’s an idiot who got himself totally dependent and in hock on this Jewish clique to keep his empire. He’s gonna do whatever they tell him to do. And Jews have never been smart enough to know when to leave well enough alone so America, then the Donald, then the Jews will all be ruined…unless.

    Lets begin at the beginning:

    Trump and the Chabad jews

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/the-happy-go-lucky-jewish-group-that-connects-trump-and-putin-215007

    Chabad of Port Washington, a Jewish community center on Long Island’s Manhasset Bay, sits in a squat brick edifice across from a Shell gas station and a strip mall. The center is an unexceptional building on an unexceptional street, save for one thing: Some of the shortest routes between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin run straight through it
    Putin enlisted two of his closest confidants, the oligarchs Lev Leviev and Roman Abramovich, who would go on to become Chabad’s biggest patrons worldwide, to create the Federation of Jewish Communities of Russia.

    [MORE]

    Lev Leviev is the one that helped Kushner buy the 666 5th ave property

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/22/business/kushner-deutsche-bank-subpoena.html

    Federal prosecutors in Brooklyn have sought bank records about entities associated with the family company of Jared Kushner, President Trump’s son-in-law and senior adviser, according to four people briefed on the matter.
    In recent weeks, prosecutors from the United States attorney’s office in the Eastern District of New York subpoenaed records from Deutsche Bank, the giant German financial institution that has lent hundreds of millions of dollars to the Kushner family real estate business.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/22/business/kushner-deutsche-bank-subpoena.html

    During the presidential campaign, Donald J. Trump pointed to his relationship with Deutsche Bank to counter reports that big banks were skeptical of doing business with him.
    After a string of bankruptcies in his casino and hotel businesses in the 1990s, Mr. Trump became somewhat of an outsider on Wall Street, leaving the giant German bank among the few major financial institutions willing to lend him money
    Generally, the bank is seen as central to understanding Mr. Trump’s finances since it is the only major financial institution that continues to conduct sizable business with him. Deutsche Bank has also lent money to Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law and senior adviser, and to his family real estate business
    Although Deutsche Bank recently landed in legal trouble for laundering money for Russian entities — paying more than $600 million in penalties to New York and British regulators — there is no indication of a Russian connection to Mr. Trump’s loans or accounts at Deutsche Bank, people briefed on the matter said. The bank, which declined to comment, scrutinizes its accounts for problematic ties as part of so-called “know your customer” banking rules and other requirements.
    While Mr. Kushner has never disclosed the exact nature of his business with Ms. Vrablic, his financial disclosure shows a line of credit worth between $5 million and $25 million. And according to securities filings, Deutsche Bank provided a $285 million mortgage to Kushner Companies to help it refinance the loan it used to purchase several floors of retail space in the former New York Times building on 43rd Street in Manhattan.
    Mr. Kushner’s company bought the space from Africa Israel Investments, a company owned by Lev Leviev, which has a sizable real estate portfolio in Russia.
    Natalia Veselnitskaya, the Russian lawyer who was among the people who met with Donald Trump Jr. during the presidential campaign.
    Josef Ackermann, Deutsche Bank’s former chief executive, now chairman of the Bank of Cyprus. .
    And in May, federal prosecutors settled a case with a Cyprus investment vehicle owned by a Russian businessman with close family connections to the Kremlin.
    The firm, Prevezon Holdings, was represented by Natalia Veselnitskaya, the Russian lawyer who was among the people who met during the presidential campaign with Donald Trump Jr. about Hillary Clinton.
    Federal prosecutors in the United States claimed Prevezon, which admitted no wrongdoing, laundered the proceeds of an alleged Russian tax fraud through real estate. Prevezon and its partner relied in part on $90 million in financing from a big European financial institution, court records show.
    It was Deutsche Bank”
    *A large shareholder of that bank also was Dmitry Rybolovlev, the Russian oligarch who purchased Mr. Trump’s estate in Florida for twice its appraised value.

  128. AaronB says:
    @renfro

    My lengthy response was to you.

  129. From my viewpoint there are two issues here that often get put together as one.

    The Real Issue (FMVP) is Jewish domination of the American system of government both the tribalism and the kowtowing to the State of Israel and all that entails. This is actually the real issue, it is factual, and Jewish domination has made it something that must be whispered in the US and in many other western countries is now punishable by jail time for simply saying aloud publicly. For anyone who desires their government answer to their citizens rather than a tribe (mafia, religion, whatever), making laws that prohibit discussing the bolsheviks is not appetizing.

    The secondary issue is the name calling (anti-semite) and public shaming of anyone desiring to discuss the real issue. This is the issue that leads to de-facto anti-semitism.

    This has led to many, myself included, just fed up with Jews in general, and if I’m gonna be called anti-semite for disliking jewish domination of my government, the media, the newspapers, finance, etc, well fine, I am an anti-semite, F these Jews.

    But it didn’t have to be this way, the nature of Jewish behavior causes it to be this way, apparently they believe like GWB that you are either with them are against them, and if that is the only choice I’m agin’ em.

    Now, in order to start calling out politicians that serve the tribe first rather than their constituents, and this constitutes a plurality of elected officials in the US we need to develop a subtle terminology, similar to the (((jew))) that can be employed in front of polite company while making sure the offending elected prostitute understands they are being called out.

    I suggest the statement “You have something on your chin” is appropriate for calling them out, the insinuation that they just removed Israel or a Jews cock from their mouth without cleaning up appropriately. This can be employed even in nations that are imprisoning their citizens for discussing Jewish influence openly. This could probably become quite common verbage to call out offending elected representatives particularly on Twitter, becoming a common part of the vernacular in literally no time. I don’t do social media, but if anyone likes the idea, feel free to put it out there. It would be nice if even a reporter during a questioning of one of the offending parties, mentioned in passing, “Congressman, you have something on your chin”.

    • Agree: anarchyst
    • Replies: @renfro
    , @Jake
  130. myself says:
    @Robert Magill

    China is minding its own damn business which just happens to be . . . actual commercial business.

    That much of the world chooses to play games of international intrigue and empire, instead of actual productive pursuits, is most definitely not on China.

  131. renfro says:
    @AaronB

    I am suggesting Europeans develop a clear idea of what they want – based on a clear identity, based on a clear religious vision and what constitutes transcendental values. This cannot be accomplished through open-ended logical inquiry

    Yes, however, Europeans, Gentiles, Anglos would have to be ‘united’ on one or several goals they all agree on.
    Is it difficult to unite Saxons as we are ‘individualist’….have too many individual goals.
    The Jews are mostly united by their centuries old hatred of gentiles and their fear of us, so they sign onto whatever the tribal goals are for the most part.

    We Anglos, Gentiles Europeans and etc. dont really fear the Jews , a large part of the public pays them no attention.
    About the only thing that would get the majority of us to unite or agree on anything would be if we all faced a common threat.

    My goal in discussion on Jewish-ness has been to educate on the threat that the Jewish/Israeli Fifth Column’ infiltration into US government is to America and all Americans.

    If that threat/fear ever takes hold then you will see a unified us vr them.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @m___
  132. myself says:
    @CuriousInSeattle

    If a bunch of people try to destroy a border fence, what do you think would be an appropriate response?

    The recent caravan of South American migrants to the Rio Grande got me thinking about this very question.

    Off the top of my head, I would say the answer is mass employment of the latest non-lethal technologies.

    Tear gas, lot of it, plus those sound waves that induce peeing, crapping and vomiting, plus those microwaves that heat the skin, but do no long-term harm. Also throw in rubber bullets fired liberally.

  133. @Renoman

    saying “Not since WW2 has hatred and disdain for the Jews been higher. I would say Israel is closer to being wiped off the face of the Earth than ever before” is like saying the chance has been improved from .0000001% to .000001%; A ten percent improvement, improved nothing to near to nothing.

    What must be understood is that a republic form of government makes democracy impossible.

    The 5 votes allowed to each American who is a citizen of the USA every few years, enables that American to vote for a person (actually 5 such persons) seeking to be appointed(elected) to one of the 527 slave driver positions (P,VP, 2 Senator, 1 house); but that allowance in the form of a privilege granted by the USA to conforming citizens, does not allow or offer such citizens any participation in the affairs of their government.

    In fact, as far as Slave-Americans are concerned, the constitution authorizes the most anti democratic form of government possible; ironically propaganda has persuaded them otherwise.

    Banker backed, corporate powered Zionism is possible because the constitution does not authorize a democratic form of government.

  134. renfro says:
    @AaronB

    Absolutely, but the laws that govern this process are not random either.

    Sometimes they aren’t and sometimes they are…..I would say that 9 xs out of 10 there is a wild card in the deck of whatever power plays are set in motion that could go either way.

    Afghanistan was always the place other countries went to die……and still is.
    And Iraq is still Iraq, not a western democracy.
    Iran overthrew our overthrow.
    Castro outlived the US and the exile militants.
    I could go on.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  135. Israel should enjoy it while it lasts. Not much longer.
    The old generation that believes the lies is dying off. More people are waking up every day. Even the so called evangelicals and young Jews are turning their backs.
    99% of the world is fed up with it. The DC establishment and Israels survival depend on deceit/lies.
    Once people figure out they’ve been conned, and are still being lied to, their gig is up. That is happening now, and theres really nothing they can do about it, short of drastically changing their behavior, which isn’t likely, given the fake economy and phony money scam is near collapse, hanging by a thread. The parasite banking system will collapse, when they lose control of the money they lose control of it all. No more usury.
    When retribution comes and it will, life experience should teach anyone this, a couple of bullies can’t go around poking 200 people in the chest for long before the 200 people get together and beat the two bullies to within an inch of their life, or take their life… so these idiots clearly live in their own fake reality if they think this will go on much longer without the blowback coming to them.
    This is really why I voted for Trump, I knew the idiot would be so extreme, so open about the issues that plague America and the world, that he would awaken the sleeping giant, make it impossible not to notice what has been hidden behind the curtain for so long, for everyone to see. He is doing everything I thought he would, and more. A great job indeed. Just look at the reaction to the recent false flag in Syria, things are changing.
    Israel/Netanyahu showing their ass with the gameshow nuke presentation, and the Palestinian turkey shoot was a bonus, hard for anyone to ignore this evil and stupidity isn’t it?How did Americans react as opposed to Iraq WMD lie back in 2003 or so? The murder of 3000 Americans on 9/11 will seal their fate in the end.
    They’re killing themselves, just sit back and relax, they’re doing a fine job.
    Truth will always overcome the lies.

  136. renfro says:
    @Linda Green

    No. Just say it straight out. For example :

    ”Senator, you appear to be representing the foreign country of Israel in ways that are harmful and costly to the US and America such as…..”

    And have two good examples of what they did for Israel that was injurious to the US—-there are hundreds of them so you shouldn’t have any trouble finding some.

  137. AaronB says:
    @renfro

    I agree – your individualism is your greatest weakness. But I think it’s a temporary weakness brought on by the Enlightenment.

    A sense of threat may unite you, if it becomes very palpable. There are signs this is happening.

    We shall see. Either way, I don’t see the current situation lasting very long. Everything changes, powers rise then fall.

  138. AaronB says:
    @renfro

    This is also true.

    Even Jewish dominance today is caused by the accident of the Enlightenment making Europeans divided and weak, not because they have any special powers.

    But spiritual factors – whether one is a materialist or has a metaphysical or religious faith – play a role in these power permutations.

  139. Wally says:
    @Realist

    Most Jews are not ‘religious’ so they do not say they are Jews in census questions about religion. They consider themselves Jews nonetheless. They want you to think they are so few & helpless victims when in fact they create massive resentment towards themselves by their owns actions.

    According to Jewish law Jews are to avoid being counted.

    To actually count Jews directly is forbidden (Talmud, Yoma 22b), as the prophet says: “And the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which shall neither be measured nor counted.”

    http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/896203/jewish/Laws-of-Counting-Jews.htm

    Why is it forbidden to count Jews?

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/18472

    “This opening verse of our Biblical portion teaches that it is forbidden to take a number count of the Israelites, a census activity which Jewish organizations are constantly involved in doing. This prohibition is reinforced by the prophet Hosea (chapter 2), when he declares: “The number of the children of Israel shall be as the sands of the sea, which cannot be numbered and cannot be counted…” And historically even King David learned the bitter lesson of the power of this command, when- against the will of his Chief Commander Joab – he ordered a census, and the Israelites suffered a plague (II Samuel, 24). “

    and:

    “We reached the [Balfour] Declaration not by miracles, but through persistent propaganda, through unceasing demonstration of the life force of our people. We told the responsible authorities: We will establish ourselves in Palestine whether you like it or not. You can hasten our arrival or you can equally retard it. It is however better for you to help us so as to avoid our constructive powers being turned into a destructive power which will overthrow the world.”
    - World Zionist leader [1st President of Israël] Chaim Weizmann, speech in Jerusalem, December 1919.

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Realist
  140. Wally says:
    @Realist

    said:
    “You’re filled with something but it’s not straw men.”

    Then refute this, another beat down of your dumb ‘holocaust’

    ‘Another take down of alleged Babi Yar ‘shooting of 33,771 Jews’

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11768

    While you’re at it, please tell us how the magic ‘gas chambers’ worked.

    And then actually show us the alleged huge mass graves and their alleged contents, like the alleged 900,000 Jew remains at Treblinka.

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Realist
  141. renfro says:

    Todays trivia question

    Do you know where the money goes that is collected from the public when they buy kosher certified products? I think its about half a penny per product but almost all products in the US, even plastic bags have the kosher label…

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthodox_Union

    The Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America (UOJCA), more popularly known[Notes 1] as the Orthodox Union (OU), is one of the oldest Orthodox Jewish organizations in the United States.

    It is best known for its kosher certification service. Its circled-U symbol, Ⓤ, a hechsher mark, is found on the labels of many kosher commercial and consumer food products.

    The OU supports a network of synagogues, youth programs, Jewish and Religious Zionist advocacy, programs for the disabled, localized religious study programs, and some international units with locations in Israel and formerly in Ukraine.

    The Jewish organization is estimated to bring in over $20 million annually, much, if not most, of which is generated by selling the “right” to put their kosher label which is a U (it can be either standing alone or inside of a circle) to not only food companies but also to manufacturers of products ranging from tin foil to soap and shampoo to plastic sandwich bags. The companies pay the rabbis for the use of their kosher symbol and then pass that overhead cost on to their customers.

    • Replies: @Wally
  142. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Realist

    How did 2.2% of the US population get control of US White gentiles?

    The same way small elites control all nations: they control the channels of communication, they control the education system, they control the police, the security services, and the military. When you have effective control over what people think, and the means to oppress, imprison or assassinate any who evade such control, the 2.2% managing the 97.8% is a simple matter.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
    , @Realist
  143. L.K says:
    @utu

    Troll utu: “It was Netanyahu who gave Putin the green light. W/o it Putin would not move to Syria.”

    One does not have to be a Putin fan or a Russian shill to understand your statement is completely FALSE & IDIOTIC.

    • Agree: Mike P
  144. Uncle Sam says:
    @sarz

    Has anyone noticed — I could be wrong about this —that since May 10th there have been no Israeli bombing raids into Syria? That was the date of the Syrian/Iranian rocket attack on the Israeli positions on the Golan Heights. These attacks must have been successful, doing quite a bit of damage to military installations and killing Israelis. Of course, the Israelis censored the results of this attack.

    According to Hassan Nasrallah, 55 not 20 rockets of all types were fired at the Israeli positions. He went on to say that Israel was warned subsequently via a 3rd party ( whom he did not name) that any additional air attacks against Syrla would result in Syrian/Iranian rockets being fired deeper into Israel.

    So the Israelis appear to have been deterred. This is very bad news for Israel. Once it loses its freedom of action its desmise becomes nearer and more certain. In any case, Israel’s days are numbered.

    • Replies: @L.K
  145. Jake says:
    @Linda Green

    If you wish to save America from being made slave to Jewish whims and hatreds, you must replace WASP as the national mandarin culture. WASP culture was born of a Judaizing heresy: Anglo-Saxon Puritanism. It has always been pro-Jewish while also harboring genocidal desires for various non -WASP white Christian cultures.

    • Replies: @renfro
  146. Bliss says:
    @AaronB

    I am suggesting Europeans develop a clear idea of what they want – based on a clear identity, based on a clear religious vision and what constitutes transcendental values……..That’s basically what I’m saying.

    So why are you always promoting non-european religions like Islam, Buddhism, Taoism, Shintoism which have nothing to do with european identity historically? Explain why you want Europe to reject Christianity completely and adopt one of these foreign religions?

    • Replies: @utu
    , @AaronB
  147. L.K says:
    @Momus

    momus, the Zionist LIAR( is there any other kind??)

    Netanyahu has no interest in a disintegrated, failed state Syria on Israel’s doorstep.

    He saw the Russians as a support for Assad to prevent this and as a counter balance for the Iranians. Here the Israeli real politik diverged from the US’s

    Russia gained a warm water Mediterranean naval port and an air base.

    The too big for their boots Iranians are now being evicted.

    Your post is, as everything else you write, a pack of lies.

    The war in Syria is, and has always been, a war for Zionism/Israel, as wikileaks documents the plan as originating in Israhell, going back to at least 2006.

    Already by 2013, influential ‘israeli’ Michael Oren, former Israeli ambassador to the ZUnited States, lifted any doubts, if there ever were any, about how badly Israel wanted Assad gone. In an interview with zionist media, JPost, he declared:

    “The initial message about the Syrian issue was that we always wanted [President] Bashar Assad to go, we always preferred the bad guys who weren’t backed by Iran to the bad guys who were backed by Iran,” he said.
    This was the case, he said, even if the other “bad guys” were affiliated to al-Qaida.

    “We understand that they are pretty bad guys,” he said, adding that this designation did not apply to everyone in the Syrian opposition. “Still, the greatest danger to Israel is by the strategic arc that extends from Tehran, to Damascus to Beirut. And we saw the Assad regime as the keystone in that arc. That is a position we had well before the outbreak of hostilities in Syria. With the outbreak of hostilities we continued to want Assad to go.”

    How many time have Al Qaida type groups, including ISIS, attacked Israel again? That’s right… zero.

    • Replies: @Momus
  148. L.K says:
    @Uncle Sam

    Well informed Lebanese journalist, Sharmine Narwani, writing for the American Conservative, in her article “Get Ready for the New Middle East Battlefield: The Golan”:

    …A check of the actual conflict chronology shows that Israel initiated the incident by striking Syrian military targets in Kisweh (the Damascus suburbs) and Baath city (Quneitra) over the two preceding days. Russia had warned both Syria and Iran of the impending Israeli strike with the result that neither Iranian military personnel nor weapons systems appear to have been hit. The Syrian military (and not the IRGC) retaliated by firing 55 rockets at Israeli military outposts and installations in the occupied part of the Golan. Local Arab media identified these targets as key Israeli surveillance centers that crippled Israel’s “eyes and ears” along that vital demarcation line. Israel’s vaunted “Iron Dome” defense system failed to intercept most of these rockets, while the Syrian military intercepted more than half of Israel’s missiles, according to Russian military officials.

    What is undisputed: the military back-and-forth was the first major firefight between Syria and Israel in the occupied Golan Heights since 1973—making the Golan an operational theater for the first time in over four decades. This is also the first time during the Syrian War that the Syrian military has retaliated against Israeli strikes by hitting Israeli military installations—not just the incoming missiles and the Israeli warplanes firing them.

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/get-ready-for-the-new-middle-east-battlefield-the-golan/

    • Replies: @Momus
  149. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @CanSpeccy

    The more interesting question is how did Jews gain such disproportionate influence over the leadership of the the US and UK, to which the answer must be in part, that other groups, in particular the British in Britain and the EuroAmericans in America, lack the political coherence and the commitment to controlling their own destiny that Jews possess. Moreover, elites, as now constituted, in most Western nations fight fiercely to suppress nativist tendencies. For example Justin Trudeau’s amazing performance in New York the other day. Through the work of such cucks, conservative or liberal, resistance to the dominating influence of any minority over elite objectives, is suppressed.

    • Replies: @James Brown
    , @escobar
  150. Wally says:
    @renfro

    Excellent question.

    Their scams are unending.

    http://www.codoh.com

  151. L.K says:
    @renfro

    renfro:
    “First of all Israel doesn’t have legal borders,”

    Exactly…

    renfro:
    “Second, the appropriate response to Israelis by Palestines would be to kill them for stealing their land and ghettorizing them.

    That’s what I would do if it were my land and family.”

    Agree. Funny though, how organized Jewry so totally controls the narrative – and this not only in the zusa, but at least in all of the Western Hemisphere – that the Palestinians are the bad guys even when they try non violent resistance. From the Jew supremacist pov, the only good Palestinian is the one who rolls over and dies.

    Debunking 18 claims justifying this week’s Gaza massacre

    …First thing I can think of is, what border? Israel is the only country in the world with no defined borders, as they keep expanding into others’ land. The line between Gaza and Israel is an armistice line from 1949 and 1967, not an internationally recognized border. ….
    Yes, they are trying to cross the fence into 1948 areas, but this is about realizing their right of return to the land many of them were forced to leave. Seventy percent of Palestinians in Gaza are refugees from cities and towns in Israel. These people are trying to go home. They are trying to get to the houses they still have keys and official documents for!

    http://mondoweiss.net/2018/05/debunking-justifying-massacre/

  152. anonymous[359] • Disclaimer says:

    We have to collapse the Zioevangizers in the USA. There is a Zioevangizer cuck Derek Gilbert who was in Rome this weekend commenting on the falseness of the RCC and the Orthodox Church. This nutcase lives in Missouri and these people are focusing on getting Mike Pence in the White House. The RCC is gone, but the RCCers leaving it are converting to the Orthodox Church. The largest Orthodox Church is the Russian Orthodox Church. The Zioevangizers will be focusing even more on a war with Russia.

  153. L.K says:

    OBSTACLE TO PEACE

    https://www.obstacletopeace.com/

    “essential reading on Israel-Palestine”
    Philip Giraldi
    Former CIA Officer and Columnist for The American Conservative

  154. L.K says:

  155. L.K says:

    In the following vids one can see the IO(ccupation)F heroes of the zionist cowards posting here, such as momus, shama and other vermin…

    Motionless Palestinian Shot by Israeli Sniper to Sound of Soldiers’ Cheers, Gaza.

    Israeli soldiers assault Palestinian paramedics as they tend to the unarmed protesters who had been shot in the occupied West Bank town of Al-Bireh on 12 March 2018

    Israeli soldiers cheer after shooting a Palestinian protester in the village of Madama, 13 April 2018

    • Replies: @bjondo
  156. Momus says:
    @L.K

    Photographs of the damaged Israeli installations? Or more Nasrallah garbage?

    The Syrians are scared stiff of the Israelis and do not dare to even bad mouth them, let alone attack them.

    Every Syrian military installation, and sensitive civilian point has its coordinates entered.

    • Troll: renfro
    • Replies: @Them Guys
  157. utu says:
    @anonymous

    Benjamin Schwarz, former national editor and literary editor at The Atlantic, has been named editor of The American Conservative

    Rod Dreher: “Raised a Methodist, he converted to Roman Catholicism in 1993, and on October 12, 2006, he announced his conversion to Eastern Orthodoxy.”

    Dreher’s emphasis on intentional Christian community have caused him to express admiration for Orthodox Jews. “We Christians have a lot to learn from Modern Orthodox Jews”, he said in a 2017 interview with The Atlantic. “They have had to live in a way that’s powerfully counter-cultural in American life and rooted in thick community and ancient traditions … And yet, they manage to do it.”[17] In an opinion piece on The American Conservative blog he added, “to readers of this blog who harbor anti-Semitic views: don’t even try to post them here. Anti-Semites are among the vilest people.” Later in the same post he expressed support for the American–Israel alliance, writing: “Personally, I strongly believe in the US–Israel alliance. But it is not unlimited and unconditional…”.

    Our Ron Unz used to fund TAC. Then Buchanan at TAC in 2003 was the first to out neocons when the topic was still a taboo. (Sniegoski perhaps was first but he published in an obscure journal.)

    • Replies: @German_reader
    , @renfro
  158. utu says:
    @anonymous

    More on Chabad connection:

    Trump on Kushners (father and on son): “They know all the crooks in Israel.”

  159. Thorby says:
    @Realist

    Which one? Putin or Trump? Butt kisser that is.

    • Replies: @Realist
  160. Momus says:
    @L.K

    I repeat, knocking off Assad, a strongman in the mould of Sadam or Gadaffi, and having a failed state next door is too stupid to contemplate: except perhaps for a window licker like you. So long as he behaves Israel guarantors his survival.

    How would ISIS have attacked Israel? They had no means. Israel is virtually impregnable.

    • LOL: L.K
  161. Thorby says:
    @sarz

    Meyssann did a 180. Don’t trust him anymore.

  162. utu says:
    @Bliss

    Good question.

    Abandon rationality he says. Forget logic. Severe ties to our roots which are: Greece, Rome and Christianity. From Greeks we have our philosophy, from Rome we have our legal tradition and from Christianity we have our ethics. Do you think it was an accident that Greek language and then Latin were kicked out form schools in Europe and America in late 20c? Do you think the rise of New Age and Eastern religions in 1960s was an accident? AaronB is an epigone of the “Scratch American Buddhist and find a Jew” phenomena though he keeps peddling the same old stuff. Critique of materialism and some aspects of Enlightenment is needed to raise our awareness and recognize what is happening but not throwing the baby out with the bathwater which seems what is being peddled by various hucksters and all pop-culture since 1960s.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @Joe Levantine
  163. utu says:
    @Israel Shamir

    I have no aversion to some kinds of socialism but I have zero tolerance for apologia of Bolsheviks and Stalinism.

  164. Vojkan says:
    @renfro

    I guess Putin doesn’t have to put up a great act to appear as the only adult in the room when all Western leaders behave like retards competing who’ll please more the Israeli brat. When you think of it, he dealt with Netanyahu the only resonable way an adult can with somebody else’s spoiled kid without slapping him since he knows that if he slaps him all hell will break loose and the current chaos will look like a mere schoolyard during recreation in comparison.
    On the other hand, I thank God for his temper because I don’t know if I could manage the effort to remain calm when dealing with such punks. Once upon a time there were serious people in power in the West and one could afford not to be interested in politics, now there are only morons with expensive toys.

    • Replies: @James Brown
  165. Realist says:
    @CanSpeccy

    Exactly the vast majority has to be stupid to allow such a tiny minority to control them.

  166. Realist says:
    @Wally

    As you know, we have had this ‘conversation’ before, my point is why do white gentiles allow Jews to get away with what they do?

    • Replies: @Wally
  167. Realist says:
    @Wally

    How many Jews are there….obviously enough to outsmart the gentiles.

    • Replies: @Wally
  168. @Sam Shama

    Quite sure I can outride your inner Cossack, though.

    I started riding when I was 9. Sorry about your Sebastian. Was it a sword wound? A George Eliot tale turns on the death-by-staking of a dearly-loved ride.


    Re-reading Heinrich Graetz’s severe critique of the Talmudist practices of Polish Jewish rabbis –

    “The cultivation of a single faculty, that of hair-splitting judgement, at the cost of the rest, narrowed the imagination, hence not a single literary product appeared in Poland deserving the name of poetry. All the productions of the Polish school bore the Talmudical stamp . . . The disciples of this school looked down almost with contempt on Scripture and its simple grandeur . . .

    Simplicity and elevation in general was denied them. A love of twisting, distorting, ingenious quibbling, and a foregone antipathy to what did not lie within their field of vision, constituted the character of the Polish Jews. Pride in their knowledge of the Talmud and a spirit of dogmatism attached even to the best rabbis, and undermined their moral sense. . . . The [piety of] Polish Jews rested on sophistry and boastfulness. . . . Thus religion sank, not merely as among Jews of other countries, to a mechanical, unintelligent ceremonial, but to a subtle art of interpretation. . . .

    They found pleasure and a sort of triumphant delight in deception and cheating. Against members of their own race cunning could not well be employed, because they were sharp-witted; but the non-Jewish world with which they came into contact experienced to its disadvantage the superiority of the Talmudical spirit of the Polish Jews. . . .

    The corruption of the Polish Jews was avenged upon them in a terrible way, and the result was, that the rest of the Jews in Europe were for a time infected with it.”

    –Among other ways, Graetz wrote, that “corruption of the Polish Jews” incited the bloody vengeance of the Cossacks.

    It’s a fascinating chapter, the fortunes of war trending this way, then that; bloody enough for a Spielberg extravaganza.

    Of special significance to this audience is Graetz’s conclusion of that episode:

    “The Cossack persecution of the Jews, in a sense, remodeled Judaism. It became Polonized, so to speak. The Polish-Rabbinical method of study had long dominated the Talmudical schools of Germany and Italy through the abundant literature by Polish authors.

    Now, through the fugitives, most of whom were Talmudical scholars, it became authoritative. . . .these Polish Talmudists were as proud as the Spanish and Portuguese fugitives had been, and looked down with contempt on the rabbis who spoke German, Portuguese, and Italian.

    Far from giving up their own method in a foreign country, they demanded that all the world should be regulated by them . . . These Polish rabbis gradually forced their sophistical piety upon the German, and partly on the Portuguese, and Italian, communities.

    In one of his lectures, Rabbi Henry Abramson observed that in the 1930s and 1940s, Russian Jews were persuaded to migrate to the United States on the conviction that “they would impose their ways on the USA — “the [USA] would be regulated by them” — rather than that they would assimilate to American mores.

    Back to Graetz –

    Through their influence, scientific knowledge and the study of the Bible declined still more than previously. In the century of Descartes and Spinoza, when the three Christian nations, the French, English, and Dutch, gave the death-blow to the Middle Ages, Jewish-Polish emigrants, baited by [Cossacks], brought a new middle age over European Judaism, which maintained itself in full vigor for more than a century, to some extent lasting to our time.”

    And so, dear Sam-bereft- of his mount, I suspect you’ve allowed the blood to rise to the extent that you’ve neither read carefully what I wrote, nor acquired an acquaintance with the historical precedents (that I did refer to, Sam) and warnings of your own sages. Those who fail to learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them.

    But if you have another moment — What do you anticipate is the end-game, if Jews in Israel and Jewish influencers in USA, persist in the present course?

    By what contrivance do you expect Jewish censorship, Jewish dominance of foreign policy as well as domestic concerns, Jewish imposition of Jewish dogma on the American people — how will Solomon thread that snail so that this affront to the American spirit bequeathed by Jefferson, Madison and Washington, ends in anything other than disaster for the Jewish people as well as the rest of us, as Graetz records was the case in 17th century Poland?

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  169. DN says:
    @m___

    “The revision of the Convention of Geneva should give unarmed surveillance drones ambulance status.”

    It is interesting idea to use commodity grade electronic for collecting of information. Still, quality of such, and even pro grade equipment is not enough for such demanding tasks. There are several reasons, but we should think of two important things:

    1. Photo, audio and video material could be forged.
    2. People understand events they witnessed differently, so several eye witnesses of same event can give rather different explanations what they witnessed. Then, also, photo, audio and video documents affect people differently, but in some cases it is predictable that some type of content would induce specific feelings on spectator or listener, so we can expect misuse of otherwise excellent method. MSM outlets are frequently accused for misuse of AV information.

    Clifford Simac observed the problem in his novel City. In mentioned novel, solution which assures that listener to the witness of event would accurately know what exactly was witnessed, is Juwain philosophy about understanding other people’s points of view. Unfortunately, just effects of Juwain philosophy was described in the novel, and not a content of mentioned philosophy.

    • Replies: @m___
  170. @Vojkan

    “On the other hand, I thank God for his temper…”

    Maybe it isn’t about “his temper” but about fundamental agreements.

    Putin considers the warmonger and criminal – The King of Israel – as his friend.

    Sergei Lavrov is supposed to be the one doing hypocrisy. It’s his job.

    Putin knows who put him in Power and who is the boss in Russia and in The USA.

    • Replies: @Vojkan
  171. @CanSpeccy

    “The more interesting question is how did Jews gain such disproportionate influence over the leadership of the the US and UK…”

    Maybe it’s because there is no Jewish question anymore – contrary to what 99,9% of UNZ’s readers believe-, because Christians became Jewish. And that conversion took place, at least, in 1789.

    If Christians aren’t Christians any more, Jews didn’t ” gain disproportionate influence over the leadership of the the US and UK.”, because the leaders of those countries are …Jews.

    Yes, I know. They call themselves “Christians”. Tony Blair is a “Christian”, George Bush is a “Christian” etc…but words are just words.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  172. Duke says: • Website
    @Duke

    The response to the announcement of my return, is a reflection of a totally corrupt world system that is now in a state of collapse. The self consuming serpent.
    Take heed.

    The faithful witness

  173. DFH says:

    the same number as were martyred in the Sharpeville Massacre

    Shamir’s Judaism shining through once again.

  174. escobar says:
    @CanSpeccy

    How they gained influence: Money, money and money.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  175. John kaminsky once wrote that both the American President and Putin are Jewish controlled puppets. While I could never disagree about the stated status of the American Potus, I found the contention with respect to Putin a bit outlandish. For at the time I thought of Putin as a committed Christian who could do no moral wrong. However, what we are witnessing lately is that Putin, while a true patriot, is very much under the influence of the Zionist Israeli spell.
    Putin is defenetaly a pragmatist and not an ideologue. Whereas Hitler, the aborted would be emancipator of the world from Jewish tyranny, lost his case because he was too overt about fighting Jewish influence and too rash at taking risks to achieve his objective of a society that subordinates finance to the interest of the nation and preserves Western morality from the cultural stranglehold of the Jew, Putin is showing such caution when it comes to Jewish interest that he has more than once doomed his strategy of containment of the Anglo Zionist empire in Syria to failure. Clearly, the miserable quality of leaders in the West provoked unjustified expectations from Putin as the world’s would be savior from the yoke of the Zionist controlled New World Order.
    Putin is a leader whose primary concern is to improve the standard of living of Russian citizens. Thus, notwithstanding Putin’s moral standards, he is primarily engaged in materialistic pursuits. This is hardly what the world desperately needs in these morally trying times and that is a leader of means who is fighting for a spiritual mission that bypasses all the petty concerns about the dominant world of the material.
    As of now, only two institutions could manage such a tall order: the monastic sector of the Orthodox Church and the saner sects of Islam that can still resist the age old strategy of the West of using Moslems as proxy warriors for imperialistic pursuits. An alliance of those two can make wonders of resistance to The Anglo Zionist empire. The triumph of a few thousand warriors in Southern Lebanon in 2006 against the might of the Israeli army is proof of what the spiritually committed can do.
    Putin might be a great strategist but what the world is in dire need for is a Joan of Arc.

  176. AaronB says:
    @Bliss

    Lol, I would be very happy if Europe adopted some forms of Christianity, like orthodox or maybe – maybe – a very purified form of earlier Catholicism. I’ve said this before. You’re thinking in simple-minded Western terms – that since in some contexts I defend Islam, I want us to become Muslim.

    The main reason I defend these religions is because I am a foe of secularism and materialism – generally, I am contrasting the rich and profound subtlety of Buddhism thought with simplistic, one dimensional Enlightenment thought that has made us so stupid and not able to think intelligently on IQ. I am defending the enthusiasm of Muslims against the apathy and lassitude of the commenters at Karlin. When people attack Christianity, I have defended it as well. People here used to say the West is weak because of Christianity – I attack that all the time. I point out that Jews undermined Europe by attacking Christianity, that Europeans made themselves defenseless by abandoning Christianity. I defend religion against materialism.

    On the other hand, I think a very good case can be made that the “traditional European identity” has failed, that it suffered from certain fatal weaknesses. Greek rationalism in particular may have been a fatal defect – remember, Greece itself did not survive long as a civilization – and the Jewish element that got attached to Christianity was also fatally undermining.

    So, I think a certain purification of Western culture is in order – we can’t merely turn back the clock, as much as nostalgic and weary old men like utu would like. Eastern orthodox Christianity relied much less heavily on Aristotle, and was more Platonic in orientation, and look how much healthier they turned out! Mysticism was far more central to their tradition, and look how much healthier they turned out!

    Particularly Aristotle, so central to the Western tradition, yet so superficial and a foe of mysticism with his logical laws that limit reality drastically and eventually became materialism, just be overcome.

    Now you misunderstand me if you think I am saying we should become Muslim or Buddhist – I defend these cultures against secularists. When materialists start attacking Islam, I’ll defend it. What’s more, a stupid attack on other religions seems unnecessary and just narcissism – a product of the decline in value and the general coarsening of our culture. I believe in generosity and love.

    Finally, I think these cultures can help us reform our culture. We don’t need to adopt them – but I do think we can learn from them what our weaknesses were and how to overcome them. For instance, there is another Greek tradition that was marginal in the West, quite aside from Aristotle, the Heraclitean, neo-Platonic tradition, that is quite similar to the good points of eastern religions.

    Do you think we can merely return to our old culture, without some sort of purification? Don’t you think it’s fair to defend religion in general against matetialists, without it meaning I want to adopt that religion? And don’t you think part of regaining our values is to avoid hating others religions our of mere stupid narcissism, without this undermining our own faith?

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
    , @Bliss
  177. AaronB says:
    @utu

    Alas, utu, it is clear to me now you do not have what it takes. I say this with regret.

    You are an old and weary man, more a part of the surrender generation than I realized, and do not understand what needs to be done. You want us to return to Greek rationalism and Latin. lol. You have not learned anything. You collapse in despair because Jews are temporarily on top and are having a few victories – you cannot see the big picture, or understand the long fight.

    You are also, I am sorry to say, dishonest. When I was preaching universalism you attacked me. Now you are attacking me for not preaching universalism to the extent you’d like me to. Lol.

    You are good at showing the mathematical stupidities of the IQ orthodoxy, and for that I respect you. I

    But unfortunately, we must leave men like you behind before we can become healthy again. And I say it with sadness.

    • Replies: @utu
  178. renfro says:
    @Jake

    And who do you suggest we replace the WASP with?

  179. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @James Brown

    Maybe it’s because there is no Jewish question anymore – contrary to what 99,9% of UNZ’s readers believe-, because Christians became Jewish.

    Untrue, since the leadership of the West is intent on the genocide of their own people by suppressed reproduction, mass replacement immigration, and miscegenation, whereas Jews are engaged in creating an Jewish homeland from which non-Jewish migrants are expelled.

  180. @utu

    I haven’t seen any evidence that Benjamin Schwarz is a Zionist…only read two pieces by him (his large article about mass immigration to Britain, and one from the 1990s about multiculturalism) which seemed fairly reasonable to me. Bit unfair imo to accuse him of being a Zionist/neocon just on the basis of his ethnic background.
    Dreher on the other hand is of course a disgrace, it’s obscene that this pathetic, self-promoting mediocrity who agitated for the Iraq war is allowed to write at American conservative (and denounce Pat Buchanan there).

    • Replies: @utu
  181. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @AaronB

    and the Jewish element that got attached to Christianity was also fatally undermining.

    What is the “Jewish element that got attached to Christianity” that you speak of, and when did it get attached?

    Christianity has always been a dual religion, Judaic in external affairs, drawing justification for rape and pillage from the Old Testament, i.e., the Torah, while the story of gentle Jesus, meek and mild, provided solace for the down-trodden and enslaved.

    The problem for the West, is not religion, it is a treasonous ruling elite, intent on destruction of the Christian nation states and their submergence in a global regime ruled by the Money Power where goods are produced where labor is cheapest and where environmental regulations and workforce protection are weakest, to be sold where prices are highest, with profits being taken where taxes are lowest.

    As for Latin and Greek, yes, we should return to it, recreating the meritocratic educational system that enabled the most gifted of every rank in society to rise, while restoring the traditional codes of moral conduct that encourage self-control, honesty and hard work instead of today’s insane and disgusting embrace of universal self-indulgence from pot and pills to fast food, trash entertainment, and mechanical sex.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  182. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @escobar

    How they gained influence: Money, money and money.

    Yes. But why the lack of pushback. Why the treason of the Euro elites?

  183. Realist says:
    @Thorby

    Which one? Putin or Trump? Butt kisser that is.

    Yes.

  184. AaronB says:
    @CanSpeccy

    Yes, the Old Testament. It just doesn’t belong together with the New. It was almost a last minute infiltration of a Judaic element into what otherwise would have been an essentially Eastern religion – however, Aristotelian rationalism was necessary to give birth to the Judaic element, as Eastern Orthodox Christianity did not become Judaic in character despite also having the OT. It seems the OT can be read as a story of moral growth, culminating in the Prophets, and finally preparing the way for an Eastern religion of love – but somehow in the West, the primitive Judaic elements – and not the mature morality of the Prophets – became central.

    I agree with you about treasonous elites, but I think you are focusing on proximate causes rather than ultimate causes – which I think many of us are wont to do. Even Jewish dominance is merely a proximate cause – what causes intelligent Westerners, like Steve Sailer, to feel instinctively submissive to Jews? What causes our elites to be treasonous? What causes the masses to be supine and apathetic? That all these things are facts are proximate causes – but the ultimate cause is a cultural or spiritual deficiency.

    As for Latin and Greek, yes, we should return to it, recreating the meritocratic educational system that enabled the most gifted of every rank in society to rise, while restoring the traditional codes of moral conduct that encourage self-control, honesty and hard work instead of today’s insane and disgusting embrace of universal self-indulgence from pot and pills to fast food, trash entertainment, and mechanical sex.

    I certainly agree. I am against Greek rationalism – but Plato, Homer, Heraclitus, and the neo-Platonic tradition are quite good. And certainly I am not against learning ancient languages. But returning to the Greek heritage in an uncritical manner – after the ravages of the Enlightenment – seems neither wise nor even possible to me.

  185. renfro says:
    @utu

    “We Christians have a lot to learn from Modern Orthodox Jews”,

    We don’t have anything to learn from them but we have a lot to earn about them

    Welfare Fraud Is Big Problem In Orthodox Jewish Communities – Steemit

    https://steemit.com/…/welfare-fraud-is-big-problem-in-orthodox-jewish-communities

    https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/publications/Abstract.aspx?id=6180

    NCJ Number: NCJ 006180 Title: CRIMINALITY AMONG JEWS – AN OVERVIEW Author(s): A MENACHEM Corporate Author: University of California, Berkeley
    School of Criminology
    United States of America Journal: ISSUES IN CRIMINOLOGY Volume:6 Issue:2 Dated:(SUMMER 1971) Pages:1-39
    THE JEWISH CRIME RATE TENDS TO BE HIGHER THAN THAT OF NONJEWS AND OTHER RELIGIOUS GROUPS FOR WHITE-COLLAR OFFENSES, THAT IS, COMMERCIAL OR COMMERCIALLY RELATED CRIMES, SUCH AS FRAUD, FRAUDULENT BANKRUPTCY, AND EMBEZZLEMENT.

    How Benefits Fraud Scam Spread So Widely In Orthodox Town
    Read more: undefined/news/375963/how-benefits-fraud-scam-spread-so-widely-in-orthodox-town/

    https://forward.com/news/375963/how-benefits-fraud-scam-spread-so-widely-in-orthodox-town/

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/welfare-reform-not-for-the-orthodox

    Take Kiryas Joel, the poorest place in America. As the Times reported last year, “half of [its] residents receive food stamps, and one third receive Medicaid benefits and rely on federal vouchers to help pay their housing costs.” The median household in Kiryas Joel has six people, and the median age is twelve. Many of its men learn Torah full-time instead of working, and the community’s low high-school graduation rate would be even lower if its religious schools had real academic standards. These kids are hardly being “socialized to the world of work.” And it’s not just Kiryas Joel: back in 1996, at the heart of “welfare reform,” a full third of Williamsburg’s Hasidim received public assistance.
    Welfare is, and has been for some time, a crucial ingredient in these communities. Kryas Joel’s Orthodox voted together to secure, for instance, a “luxurious 60-bed postnatal maternal care center… built with $10 million in state and federal grants.” Off the record, New York City officials admit that Williamsburg’s Hasidim “work the system and experts who don’t have to be reelected come out and just admit there’s widespread fraud. As Shmarya Rosenberg has argued, the birthrate, to be sustainable, requires large and consistent infusions of cash from outside. In Williamsburg, welfare really is a lifestyle.

    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2017/06/28/lakewood-welfare-fraud/

    13 arrested in alleged mortgage, welfare fraud in Brooklyn, Orange …

    abc7ny.com/news/13-arrested-in-alleged…welfare-fraud-in-orthodox…/393517/

    Nov 13, 2014 – Mortgage, welfare fraud bust in Brooklyn, Orange and Rockland county Orthodox communities … and welfare fraud operating within Orthodox Jewish communities. … on which scam was being perpetrated,” U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara … allegedly “distributed fraudulent loan proceeds between and among

    Welfare Fraud Is Big Problem In Orthodox Jewish Communities – Steemit

    https://steemit.com/…/welfare-fraud-is-big-problem-in-orthodox-jewish-communities

    Welfare Fraud Is Big Problem In Orthodox Jewish Communities … Among this crowd are several rabbis, including Zalmen Sorotzkin, the Rabbi of … is still going on today, and even in other Orthodox communities across the USA too, most likely

    Amnesty program for Lakewood fraudsters launched
    New Jersey has launched an amnesty program for Lakewood Jews who defrauded Medicaid program, after mass arrests in June.Tzvi Lev, 9/13/2017, 7:16 PM
    New Jersey rabbi, wife arrested for alleged fraud
    Authorities say rabbi and other couples underreported their income to receive government benefits such as medicaid illegally.JTA, 6/27/2017, 10:40 PM

    Welfare Fraud Is Big Problem In Orthodox Jewish Communities …

    https://aladinsmiraclelamp.wordpress.com/…/welfare-fraud-is-big-problem-in-orthodo…

    Dec 17, 2017 – Recently in Lakewood, New Jersey, 26 Orthodox Jews were … Among this crowd are several rabbis, including Zalmen Sorotzkin, the … and even in other Orthodox communities across the USA too, most likely. … The Jewish Orthodox community does have quite a reputation when it comes to welfare fraud

    • Replies: @utu
  186. utu says:
    @German_reader

    Bit unfair imo to accuse him of [X] basis of his ethnic background.

    This is correct on principle. And I believe in this principle except when it comes to Zionism and Jews who are in positions of influencing public opinion about important political and social issues.

    The whole world is affected by Zionism and Israel. If the new editor was a Brit or a Spaniard I would not mind even though there is Gibraltar issue between them.

    It is possible that he as a Jew will be able to go a bit further than a more vulnerable gentile in criticizing Israel or Jews which anyway should not be very hard after Rod Dreher. Saying this is a sad statement about the reality: only Jews define parameters and boundaries of the discourse.

    I haven’t been reading TAC in years. Did not know that Dreher was for Iraq war. Really sad remembering that TAC was called into existence to challenge this war and the neo-conservatism.

    • Replies: @German_reader
  187. utu says:
    @renfro

    You could add ecstasy smuggling and then Bill Clinton’s presidential pardons and then Chassidim voting en masse for Hilary. And, I almost forgot, Rubashkin of Postiville, Iowa and his recent pardon by Trump.

  188. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @AaronB

    but the ultimate cause is a cultural or spiritual deficiency.

    I don’t think so. It is sheer contempt of Western elite for the masses, aka the deplorables, for whom they have rarely shown the slightest respect. When former UK Prime Minister Harold MacMillan suggested that Margaret Thatcher was being unduly harsh in her treatment of the British coal miners, Thatcher threatened to shop MacMillan as a war criminal.

    The contempt of the Euro elites for the masses stems back to the Vikings who ruled most of Europe, including Russia, and who formed an inbreeding aristocracy that has always regarded the common people as mere cattle to be used and abused at will. Not coincidentally, perhaps, Askenazi Jews and Vikings share genetic markers.

    What’s needed is a people’s revolt. But that will never happen since the plebs are totally stupified by fake news, fake food, fake education and fake sex.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  189. utu says:
    @AaronB

    But unfortunately, we must leave men like you behind before we can become healthy again.

    I just hope the crowds lead by you (plural) will not trample me to death.

    You made me think of Canadian film Jesus of Montreal. A case of extreme method acting when exaltation and subsequent brain injury makes the actor believe he is Jesus. He died unfortunately so we did not find out how long the delusion would last. Should I wish you outlive your delusion or not? Not an easy answer.

    As far as Greeks are concerned perhaps you should give them another chance by reading Simone Weil.

    Intimations of Christianity Among the Ancient Greeks

    https://books.google.com/books/about/Intimations_of_Christianity_Among_the_An.html?id=lePartD_K5wC

    • Replies: @AaronB
  190. m___ says:
    @DN

    It is interesting idea to use commodity grade electronic for collecting of information

    The suggestion is only that, and intended to point to the following: any intermediate layer augments opacity. If there is a need for opacity, there is something fishy.

    Reviewing crude sources(including text, printouts, emails and on), is not done by people with not enough cognitive abilities to do so. The end result is making public postings of raw data mostly harmless. Hence the postings of Wikileaks only gleaned at by journalists, academics, politicians, the whole of the middle-class being the intended potential audience.

    The issue of public communication with “the base” “is since long decided, not the information and it’s format are the delimiting factor but the receptiveness potential of the bulk audience. To advance an idea that can compete with a variety of junkers, and catch on, must be basic indeed.

    The reference to Clifford Simac and Novel City is noted.

  191. AaronB says:
    @CanSpeccy

    I don’t believe in materialist causes. Until materialism ends, the agony will continue – and get worse. There are few signs whites are moving away from materialism, though.

    In my entire time on this blog, I don’t think a single white person expressed serious sympathy for my non-materialist stance. Only Asians, Muslims, and in a backhanded fashion, Jews. Most whites just go on about materialist causes.

    I feel sorry for you guys – but you are really screwed. In the long run, whites will survive, and recover their health. But in the short run. – you guys are in some serious trouble.

    I think I need to direct my activities to the practical task of creating small monastic communities where the flame can be kept alive. It’s an idea that’s in the air, but I’m beginning to think that is the only task for our age. Most whites are simply beyond recovery – the Great Culling is at hand.

    In the meantime, good luck.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  192. AaronB says:
    @utu

    You are right – I made it seem like I was in the majority or something, and men like you were in the minority. But it’s the opposite – it is you who will be leaving me behind, as men like you are the majority among whites. Of course, I would not care to go where you are headed.

    I feel a sense of relief – the kind one feels when one finally gives up a hopeless task. It is in small groups of men keeping the faith alive in the coming centuries of darkness that I must place my hope – and find a new practical task.

    Simone Well – she liked the Platonic Greeks, as I do. But she was Jewish, shouldn’t you be asking where her funding came from or something? Come to think of it, who’s funding me, utu? Ever think of that? Bet that’ll keep u up sleepless a few nights….

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Anon
    , @Israel Shamir
  193. Hessler says:
    @Momus

    Damn..you lie in a broad daylight with full face on, do you have no shame ?

    Oh! I guess it’s more then okay for you to lie cuz that’s one trait your tribe has mastered.

  194. Hi Iz. Brilliant article. Extremely insightful. Nice work. Thank you!

  195. Hessler says:
    @Jake

    The lust for the world domination in the white culture goes far beyond then the Judaizing heresy. What puritans actually did was to let the Jews be accomplices to take out the most prominent/rutless adversary of the white west values, the Islmic civilization. If you take the Islamic civilization out of equation, it all becomes Rome. The whites are the wolf and the jews are the foe’s. The prostestents only change the order of the things where Jews are not the enemey no 1 nomore, it’s the Islamists. If you trace back the roots of this heresy, it’s the vatican chruch itself. If it had done the things right, there would have been no protestents.

    Refer to this verse from the Koran-

    “Oh! Prophet if I’m to tell you the consequences of the alterations they’ve done to the revelations I sent unto Jeesus, you’ll suffocate to death.”

    hints: Anglo-Saxon Puritans, WASP

  196. m___ says:
    @renfro

    Individualism and common identity based on psychological symbiosis do not exclude one another. The “rain makers”, idea-mongers, are to use new and practical ideas, integration of suitable theoretical concepts and fuse them into the psychological bond they maintain with the base at all costs. The creative individuals do not build societies around themselves, but are nuclei that float freely within the blob of psychological bond.

    The gentile rain makers sold out, probably by lack of ambition. Similarly local a phenomenon can be observed within the world of Jew, historically Spain and conversion of part of the flock, today in the myriad sub-groups, with a patchwork of rain makers an methods and ideas that differ only by more of the same.

    The best, and probably unbeatable bond mechanism of bulk humanity today? No doubt consumerism is the dominant world religion that holds the masses hostage, it could be falsely interpreted as an expression of individuality, but your red bloomers, his high heels are not.

    Now ethnicity as an exploit, focussing on White Identity should find expression into something “as strong” and similar(easy to comprehend and idiot-proof). A heavy task indeed. Harm is done.

  197. utu says:
    @AaronB

    I feel a sense of relief

    Me too. Do not flatter yourself. Delusional losers are not funding worthy.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  198. @utu

    Great analysis,
    The educational system of today is against the tenets of Western civilization. The fables of La Fontaine are no more part of French or Francophone school programs. Western education is creating the trans human by concentrating on technical courses at the expense of humanities. Back in the nineties, I read a ” predictive” article in The Economist magazine about the death of poetry.
    Morality and spirituality, drilled into pupil’s minds are the road to human emancipation from materialism that will lead us to assured slavery.

    • Replies: @utu
  199. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @AaronB

    I don’t believe in materialist causes.

    So you believe in the Indian rope trick, and the ability of Sadhus to bury their heads, and do other weird and sometimes frankly disgusting things through the power of the will.

    Well , I guess that’s one way of dismissing all the rubbish about Soviet and Nazi gas chambers. If the gas killed anyone it must have been due to the victims’ foolish belief in materialist causes.

  200. AaronB says:
    @utu

    Well, I’m glad we finally know who you truly are :)

    • Replies: @utu
  201. Them Guys says:
    @Momus

    Hasbara Glue Sniffing zios. Obeying Talmudic teachings to Lie-Cheat-Swindle-Kill off the goyim since only a jew is a full Human. Fools that believe their own vast lies sure do not need enhance it with glue sniffing eh.

    A waste of time posting facts or links etc since their type Never, Ever will actually research those supplied links and facts that they always demand be provided to them. Truth is…These types FEAR links or websites like codoh is reason they never peruse them. Fear learning how full of bs and lies their entire Hoax story fraud really is. As well as most all else they claim, they Fear to learn how wrong they are eh.

    • Replies: @Momus
  202. Hessler says:
    @anonomy

    Ever since the inception of social media, the narrative of “Liberating Muslim women” is dead. They know the game.

  203. Hessler says:
    @tac

    introspection ? Jews ? nahh..Those two words don’t go togther. That’s a human trait. You can either be a human or you can be jewish, you can’t be both.

  204. @utu

    Did not know that Dreher was for Iraq war.

    He was, though he claims to have “repented” (he still mocks the anti-war protesters who were against the war though); iirc he’s also personal friends with John Podhoretz and David Brooks. In many ways he’s much closer to National review type “conservatives” than to what American conservative originally was. He usually doesn’t have that much to say about foreign policy though, his obsession is really with US culture war issues.
    American conservative isn’t totally bad though even today imo, some of their pieces are still interesting. It’s just Dreher who isn’t worth reading.

    • Replies: @utu
  205. Hessler says:
    @Sam Shama

    innocent Jews

    yeah so innocent that they got people in access of 100 million killed in just one century. Humanity has recognised the parasite and will get rid of it. It had happened before and ended with only one outcome only this time the difference will be more humiliating and painful.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  206. utu says:
    @Joe Levantine

    Morality and spirituality, drilled into pupil’s minds are the road to human emancipation from materialism that will lead us to assured slavery.

    Not quite sure what you have meant here. Terms morality and spirituality and materialism must be qualified or explained.

    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
  207. Momus says:
    @Them Guys

    Mate, Bradley Smith’s CODOH is a standing joke of pseudo scientific garbage, a redoubt of you and other benthic dwelling crustaceans.

    No one who matters is interested.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Vojkan
  208. L.K says:

    Clinton Email: We Must Destroy Syria For Israel

    https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/18328

    A leaked Hillary Clinton email confirms that the Obama administration, with Hillary at the helm, orchestrated a civil war in Syria to benefit Israel.

    The best way to help Israel deal with Iran’s growing nuclear capability is to help the people of
    Syria overthrow the regime of Bashar Assad. …

    Back to Syria. It is the strategic relationship between Iran and the regime of Bashar Assad in
    Syria that makes it possible for Iran to undermine Israel’s security — not through a direct attack,
    which in the thirty years of hostility between Iran and Israel has never occurred, but through its
    proxies in Lebanon, like Hezbollah, that are sustained, armed and trained by Iran via Syria. The
    end of the Assad regime would end this dangerous alliance. Israel’s leadership understands well

    why defeating Assad is now in its interests. Speaking on CNN’s Amanpour show last week,
    Defense Minister Ehud Barak argued that “the toppling down of Assad will be a major blow to
    the radical axis, major blow to Iran…. It’s the only kind of outpost of the Iranian influence in the
    Arab world…and it will weaken dramatically both Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas and Islamic
    Jihad in Gaza.”

  209. utu says:

    Perhaps the Jewish Messiah is already here, though we are not aware of his coming? All Jewish dreams and desires were fulfilled this mid-May.

    Israel Shamir forgot to mention the dessert served in shoe at Netanyahu home for Japan’s PM and his wife. Extreme arrogance. What was the cause for showing this displeasure with Japan? Something to do with Yukiya Amano the director of International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA)? Did shoe diplomacy work? Five days later chief inspector Tero Varjoranta of IAEA suddenly resigns w/o explanation.

    Pride comes before destruction, and an arrogant spirit before a fall. Let’s hope it is true.

  210. utu says:
    @German_reader

    Dreher case might be a good example of how institutions, organizations, publications are taken over from the inside by strategically placed individuals and control of funding to rectify their actions into what is expected by TPTB. Nothing is left alone to chance. Even stupid National Geographic was taken over at some point. Sierra Club had to change its politics. Probably: Children publications, Stamp collector organization, Bird watchers must toe the political line. Every aspect of our lives must be under political and ideological control. It’s as bad as assigning Soviet commissars to every institution in the USSR. Gleichschaltung! So what is the canon that can’t be challenged: Zionism, Neoliberalism, Multiculturalism, Genderism. If you cross any of these four you are sentenced to a “civil death”, meaning complete marginalization at best.

    • Agree: Mike P
  211. utu says:
    @AaronB

    You knew what I stand for. My views, including the deplorable one, were on the surface. You even endorsed them. No dissimulation and pretense on my part. You, on the other hand…

  212. Vojkan says:
    @James Brown

    And Putin considers Americans as partners. Or maybe Putin knows that Israelis are friends to none and that there is no such thing as friendship in international relations anyway. Maybe Putin just uses diplomatic language.
    I’ll put it differently. Do I like Israelis? God no. I find them despicable. Would I bomb Israel just to make a point if I were Putin? No again. Americans bomb people to make a point. Mentally stable grown-ups don’t bomb people to make a point. Would I smile for cameras with Netanyahu by my side? If I were Putin and shaking hands with Netanyahu brought benefit to Russia, I would shake hands with Netanyahu. If it hurts the feelings of sensitive souls in foreign lands, so be it.

    • Replies: @James Brown
  213. Wally says:
    @Realist

    A lot more than they let on. I notice you dodged the damning citations I provided.

    Judging by this site, Jews are not outsmarting very many. LOL

    Force & coercion is the Jew way, not smarts.

    If Jews like you were really so smart they would have conjured up a better, more believable story than their impossibly fake & stupid ’6,000,000 & gas chambers’.

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Realist
  214. Wally says:
    @Realist

    What we all know is that you cannot prove the dumb ‘holocaust’ storyline that you desperately believe in.

    So now you want to change the subject. LOL

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Realist
  215. Anon[198] • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    men keeping the faith alive

    What faith? So far as I can tell, which may not be all that far, you don’t believe in anything in particular, you just believe in belief.

  216. AaronB says:

    Ha ha ha, that’s one way of putting it. And not entirely wrong, either.

    But I also don’t dogmatically assert the non-existence of anything, like materialists.

    I am heavily influenced by Mahayana Buddhism – to understand what that means here, you’d have to read up on it.

    But you modern occidentals need beliefs, so let’s just say I believe in God.

  217. Wally says:
    @Momus

    What’s “pseudo scientific” about it?

    Please give us specific examples. We’re waiting.

    Please show us the immense human remains that Jews allege they know the locations of.

    recommended for everyone:

    Holocaust Handbooks, Documentaries, & Videos

    http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?main_page=1

    and:
    Chemistry of Auschwitz / Birkenau

    • Replies: @Momus
  218. Vojkan says:
    @Momus

    The thing is whether the Holocaust is or isn’t true doesn’t matter, given the preposterous behaviour of the Jews today, they can keep whining all they want, nobody gives a damn for what they allegedly suffered yesterday.

    • Replies: @Momus
  219. Another brilliant analysis by the eponymous Israel.

    2 things he missed though:

    WHat does NuttyYahoo have on Putin to keep him from sending the S300 to Syria? Is it really all about showing off on V Day?

    While NuttyYahoo was on Red Square, an Israeli plane blew up a Pantsir, one of the vaunted anti aircraft systems on display in the parade…

    • Replies: @Momus
  220. L.K says:

    Well informed journalist E. Magnier, with lots of local contacts.

  221. L.K says:

    SyrianGirlPartisan, a secular pro-government Syrian expat, who has been writing about the imposed zio war on Syria from the start, re the dubious Russian behavior in Syria;

  222. Bliss says:
    @AaronB

    The main reason I defend these religions is because I am a foe of secularism and materialism –

    It is truly naive, ignorant, ass-backward of you to believe that these religions need to be defended against the Enlightenment principle of Secularism…which by its very intent and definition is their Protector.

    How could you not know that the worst persecutors of religions/sects….are other religions/sects? That in pre-Enlightenment Christendom free-thinkers like you were regularly tortured and burned at the stake. You should be grateful that the Enlightenment stood up against that wickedness.

    I am defending the enthusiasm of Muslims against the apathy and lassitude of the commenters at Karlin…….Now you misunderstand me if you think I am saying we should become Muslim or Buddhist – I defend these cultures against secularists.

    They don’t need to be defended against secularists you clueless moron. Secular nations tolerate them both.

    If you really stood for love, generosity and tolerance you would be defending and championing secularism, not it’s polar opposite Islam (which wiped out Buddhism wherever it ruled). You would be demanding that muslims repudiate the Shariah law that ordains death for leaving Islam.

  223. JoeI says:

    “Perhaps the Jewish Messiah is already here, though we are not aware of his coming?”
    ”The Jewish people as a whole will become its own Messiah. It will attain world dominion by the dissolution of other races, by the abolition of frontiers, the annihilation of monarchy and by the establishment of a world republic in which the Jews will everywhere exercise the privilege of citizenship. In this New World Order the children of Israel will furnish all the leaders without encountering opposition. The Governments of the different peoples forming the world republic will fall without difficulty into the hands of the Jews. It will then be possible for the Jewish rulers to abolish private property and everywhere to make use of the resources of the state. Thus will the promise of the Talmud be fulfilled, in which is said that when the Messianic time is come, the Jews will have all the property of the whole world in their hands.” -Baruch Levy, 1879.

    • Replies: @Duke
  224. Bliss says:
    @AaronB

    Yes, the Old Testament. It just doesn’t belong together with the New. It was almost a last minute infiltration of a Judaic element into what otherwise would have been an essentially Eastern religion – however, Aristotelian rationalism was necessary to give birth to the Judaic element, as Eastern Orthodox Christianity did not become Judaic in character despite also having the OT. It seems the OT can be read as a story of moral growth, culminating in the Prophets, and finally preparing the way for an Eastern religion of love – but somehow in the West, the primitive Judaic elements – and not the mature morality of the Prophets – became central.

    Moses and Mohammad on one side, Jesus and Buddha (and many others) on the other. Jesus was either an Old Testament atoning blood sacrifice (the dogma of all branches of Christianity) or he was a Teacher of eternal spiritual verities. He couldn’t have been both.

    Using Reason we can readily conclude that Jesus couldn’t be a blood sacrifice. But since you abhor Reason and Logic you should have no problem believing that Jesus was a blood sacrifice and his sermonizing was unnecessary and can be disregarded. Right?

    Btw, Reason (scientific) also confirms the ancient spiritual teaching that the World we live in is as unreal as an illusion, a dream, or a mirage:

    Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one (Albert Einstein)

    • Replies: @Bliss
  225. Sam Shama says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    I read your entire post. I reject the entire premise of “Jewish censorship, Jewish dominance of foreign policy…….. ends in anything other than disaster for the Jewish people as well as the rest of us, as Graetz records was the case in 17th century Poland?

    You may have a point on the foreign policy aspect, but not a strong one. I suggest that certain Israeli interests are firmly aligning with US policies of a far more mature vintage, and where KSA, another British-US junior partner, finds itself in a position – and a dire need – to throw its hat in the coalition. These are the tides of history in the ME as it is elsewhere. Nations have interest, not lifelong friends.

    As to Jewish censorship, I call that a figment of the bitter. Even a cursory glance at the NY Times [fondly called the Jew York Times by our (?) bretheren] should make it amply evident that no dearth of criticism of Israel and the neocons exists. Both in the Op-eds and reportage, as well as in the comment sections. Hence, no purchase of that nonsense on my ledger. Jews and the purported Jewish inspired policies, the canard of a capture of greater life by Jews, are constantly berated, lamented, decried, with the accompaniment of ululation by the girls here. There is no point in denying that, is there? And Ron Unz is Jew whether he, or rather you, like it – or not.

    Jefferson, Madison and Washington I might surmise with a degree of certainty, perhaps even with some clairvoyance, would be rather tickled to see Solomon thread the snail of your description. For they foresaw it: Annuit coeptis, ring a bell? Turn that Dollar bill around. Tikkun Olam.

    History is bunk, on that, I agree with Henry Ford, and in this case, the history you proffer is of little value to my generation. Therefore, not a bit concerned about a resurrection of the Cossacks.

    Finally, I was put on a horse, age seven, without tack, left to my own devices until I devised a method to stay mounted.

  226. @utu

    In our university curriculum, marketing was a required course for graduation. Most of this course taught us how to fool and influence the client into making a decision that is not necessarily good for the buyer. This is an example of the kind of immorality that is taught to us as a must on our way to professional qualification. Another type of immoral creed we were exposed to is ” greed is good for you”.
    Back at my high school we were required to take many courses in civic education that emphasized the superiority of virtue and truth telling to the lie which was promoted by my American political science professor as a must when addressing the public. May be the guy was a disciple of Edward Bernays.
    Teaching the Christian religion on a voluntary basis can enhance spirituality away from worldly pursuits. Promoting the reading of Dostoyevsky is an excellent way to promote morality.
    Teaching students how money is created out of thin air by the Federal Reserve and who owns that fiendish institution will help students understand the dark forces running the world.
    Giving weight to literature and poetry can enhance the pupil’s affinity to the aesthetic as opposed to the materialistic.
    These are just a few ideas that are far short of a comprehensive plan that could put education at the service of spirituality, morality as opposed to materialism.

    • Replies: @utu
  227. @AaronB

    where her funding came from

    Simone Weil starved herself to death.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @AaronB
  228. @Renoman

    I remember, 50 years ago, the sympathy the Jews & Israel had then ..
    Where is it today ??
    Lying in the ruins of Gaza ??

  229. tac says:

    Image of Jewish Temple photoshopped on top of Jerusalem Mosque (with US Ambassador to Israel David Friedman) cause uproar:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/comment/11715862

  230. Realist says:
    @Wally

    What we all know is that you cannot prove the dumb ‘holocaust’ storyline that you desperately believe in.

    What I know is that you are goofy. I don’ care about proving the holocaust all that matters is the present and future.

  231. Realist says:
    @Wally

    If Jews like you were really so smart they would have conjured up a better, more believable story than their impossibly fake & stupid ’6,000,000 & gas chambers’.

    You’re a delusional bastard. I am not Jewish. The veracity of the holocaust story means nothing to me.

    • Replies: @Wally
  232. Realist says:
    @Wally

    Judging by this site, Jews are not outsmarting very many. LOL

    The number of people on this site is minuscule compared to the total.

    Force & coercion is the Jew way, not smarts.

    They’re smart enough to get dumb shits like you to bitch and moan instead of doing something.

  233. Momus says:
    @Daniel Bruno

    Putin has his warm water port at Tartus and his miltary airbase at Hmeimim and has stabilised Syria without sending his troops in. Russian interests have been served and Putin is seen as the game changer with increased power and prestige- and weapons sales.

    Netanyahu and Israel have no interest in a failed state Syria- so Putin’s intervention to a great degree serves Israeli- and in the medium term Western interests. Who wants another Libya, or Iraq or Afghanistan?

    Putin has said that Israel, Syria and Iran are independent countries, and have free action.

    Israel is the major power in the region, at odds with Iran, and determined to oust them. Putin’s pragmatic real politik says that militarily he cannot counter Israel, and nor does he want to, so provided that Russian interests are protected, Israelis do what they said they would.

    Increasingly the Russkies are weary of the Iranians so with a wink and a nod, again without troops, they are being booted.

  234. Momus says:
    @Vojkan

    It does matter that the Holocaust is held as true and studied and understood.

    You forget the lessons and history repeats. Next time (or again) it might be the Orthodox Serbs or another distinctive group.

    In the West, where it matters, apart from benthos like yourself, there is huge concern and compassion for what innocent Jews suffered during the Holocaust.

    • Replies: @Vojkan
    , @Vojkan
  235. Momus says:
    @Wally

    Benthos Wally. The veracity of the Holocaust including gassings of Jews at Auschwitz in 1944 is recognised around the world by Judicial notice as established fact, meaning that courts treat the gas chambers as common knowledge, and therefore do not require evidence that the gas chambers existed.

    In 1980 the IHR, a dodgy mob of deniers led by Willis Carto was sued by an Auschwitz survivor after he proved gassings there and claimed the $50 grand they offered for such proof but didn’t cough up.

    The Los Angeles Superior Court found in the survivors favour and ordered IHR to pay up to the tune of $90000 for “pain, anguish and suffering” caused to them.

    That is a powerful, incontrovertible, legal proof of gassing.

  236. anarchyst says:
    @AaronB

    Tying Judaism to Christianity was a clever trick used by the jews to “cement” their claim to the “land of Israel” and of the covenant, to which I reply, “God is not a real estate agent”.
    Jews rejected the covenant when they murdered Jesus Christ. Their covenant with God was then “null and void”.
    It is the flawed Schofield translation of the Bible that elevated jews to the status of Christianity’s “elder brothers”, which was then reinforced by the Catholic (flawed) “Vatican II Ecumenical Council” in the 1960s.
    I cringe when I hear well-meaning people talk about out judeo-Christian heritage.
    Nothing could be further from the truth.
    The only common thread between Christianity and judaism is the Ten Commandments–nothing more.
    The god of judaism is a vengeful god, totally unlike the merciful and welcoming God of Christianity.
    Christianity welcomes ALL, regardless of nationality or social status–not true of judaism.
    Judaism is an insular belief system that shuns outsiders, prohibits proselytization, and promotes a form of supremacy, relegating all gentiles (non-jews) to the status of livestock–subhumans with souls, only to be used for the advancement and benefit of jews.
    Jews DID murder Jesus Christ. Sad to say, even the present-day (post-Vatican II ecumenical council) Catholic church has bought into absolving the jews for Jesus Christ’s murder. As always is the case, the jews got others, the Romans to do their dirty work for them–the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. How can Christians have the same values as the Jews; the very people who denounced and betrayed the founder of Christianity, Jesus Christ, and call for his execution (by others, of course, that is the Jewish way). It makes absolutely no sense at all. Jews have no respect for Christianity, for Jesus Christ or Mary, his mother, who are both honored as Prophets in Islam, but instead, Jews spit on hearing their names and do the same while passing a Christian of any kind or a Christian Church in Israel. They have no respect for Christians or any other religion.
    It is time the Jewish lobbies and the American Government leaders as well as the evangelical Christian leaders who mislead the poor American young into joining the military and believing that they are doing something for God and Christianity by fighting Israel’s wars were named, shamed and arrested and tried for treason.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @Bliss
  237. Vojkan says:
    @Momus

    Actually, Orthodox Serbs have suffered a genocide during WWII. They were two million living west of the river Drina in 1941 and two million again only in 1991. Now there are only 1 million Serbs living west of the river Drina, 550 000 have been expelled from Croatia, 600 ooo have been expelled from the parts of Bosnia under muslim and Croat rule, all with the help of the ZUSA. Another 250 000 Serbs have been expelled from Kosovo when the Jew Kouchner ruled there. All this time, Serbs have been the ones demonised by the Zionist media. No Serb in his right mind can feel any sympathy for Jews. A Serb in his right mind can only feel sympathy for Palestinians.
    As for people in the West sympathising with Jews in spite of Jews destroying their societies by undermining all the traditional values they were based upon, dream on.

    • Replies: @Momus
  238. utu says:
    @Israel Shamir

    He knows that. He was trying to be mean to me by bringing up my non-infrequent questions/insinuations about who is behind and who is paying for it? This was also a way to not admit that he was not familiar with Simone Weil who in some Jewish circles is viewed as the worst kind of apostate, i.e, a Christian one which creates a real dilemma for Jews who at the same time like to be proud of geniuses that come form the tribe. She was one of these geniuses like Teresa of Avila. AaronB’s apostasy otoh is acceptable by Jews because it is of Buddhist kind: Scratch an American Buddhist and you find a Jew. Anyway, Simone Weil was in some sense a mathematical genius like her brother. Her reasoning has mathematical nature that’s why it is so clear, pure and distilled to the bare bones. That’s why she really can appreciate the Greeks whom AaronB seems to be afraid of which is not uncommon among Jews. Athens vs. Jerusalem. Add to Athens Christianity and Jews begin to feel very uncomfortable. Because Athens+Christianity is a real force. They prefer Evangelicals who are totally cut off form the Western tradition that’s why they can be so easily turned into rabid Zionist. Jews like fools.

  239. utu says:
    @Joe Levantine

    They do not inculcate beliefs in higher ideals like Truth, Justice and Beauty. They teach us to treat other people instrumentally. Everything has its utilitarian value and utility is an ultimate value.

  240. Vojkan says:
    @Momus

    I already answered but in order to avoid any misinterpretation, I will be more explicit. I don’t say that the Holocaust happened or didn’t happen, I don’t say that if the nazis did to Jews what they are alleged to have done that it was OK, I say that given what Jews have done to Serbs since 1991, I don’t give a hoot for Jewish suffering or for Israel’s “right to exist”. On the other hand, I do sympathise with the Palestinians because I know what evil they have to endure.

    • Replies: @Momus
  241. utu says:
    @utu

    Here we have connection:

    https://www.nysun.com/editorials/mueller-goes-to-israel/90273/
    Counsel Robert Mueller has sent his gumshoes to Israel certainly does bring this matter full circle. The report is that they are looking into the activities of what the Jewish Telegraphic Agency news wire characterizes as “an Israeli-run social media firm that may have led a social media manipulation effort to help Donald Trump get elected.”

  242. AaronB says:
    @Israel Shamir

    She chose not to eat, yes. La endura.

    A great mystic, very interested in Hinduism and Mahayana Buddhism, and heavily influenced by them.

    In life she was basically a Cathar, whom the Catholic Church exterminated with such pitiless ferocity.

    Had she lived longer, she might well have become an Orthodox Christian like yourself :)

  243. Duke says: • Website
    @JoeI

    Revelation 3:9
    ” Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are
    Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship
    before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. ”

    The faithful one
    This comment will be ‘moderated’

  244. AaronB says:
    @anarchyst

    I agree with most of this.

    It is a strange thing that the OT was slipped in like a Trojan Horse almost, there to gestate for centuries, until the Catholic Church eventually birthed a monster.

    It is most unfortunate. Certainly Jews do not share Christian values – vengeance is indeed a virtue for them, like it was for the ancient Greeks.

    Many people see Protestantism as opposed to Catholicism, but I see them as continuous in an underlying way. There was always something fundamentally unstable about Western Christianity.

    If Christianity – the real thing, not the Jewish version – can have any future in the West, it must be Eastern Orthodox. There are many positive indications that this is happening :)

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    , @Bliss
  245. anarchyst says:
    @AaronB

    I differentiate Protestantism from Catholicism in one important way–”sola scriptura” which takes the Bible as the “unerring word of God” which is to be interpreted literally, despite the many translations which have served to distort its true meaning. As Catholics do not subscribe to “sola scriptura”, this is a major divergence.
    The other problem with strengthening ties between judaism and Christianity occurred in the 1960s with the adoption of the Vatican II “Ecumenical Council”, which I regard as one of the great heresies and destabilizers of the Catholic faith.
    To wit:
    The “beginning of the end” of traditional Catholicism was sealed with the infiltration of the Catholic Church “Vatican II Ecumenical Council” of the 1960s by Jews and Protestants who were involved in the “modernization” of the Catholic Church.
    Much Catholic ritual was discarded, as well as the promotion of the absolution of the Jews for Jesus Christ’s crucifixion and death, despite vitriolic Jewish hatred of Jesus Christ and Christianity which exists to this day. The fact is, the Jews DID get the Romans to crucify Jesus Christ and DID accept full responsibility for the crucifixion and death of Jesus Christ. As is the case today, they got others (Pontius Pilate) do do their “dirty work” for them…
    Abandoning the use of Latin in the Mass destroyed its “universality”. Previous to Vatican II, one could attend Mass anywhere in the Roman Catholic world and understand the meaning of the Mass.
    Prohibition of the celebration of the Tridentine Mass (except by special ecclesiastical permission) pushed many Catholics away from the new “Modern Mass” and the New Church, in general…It took a brave Archbishop Lefebvre and the Society of St. Pius X to “push back” against Vatican II and re-legitimize the celebration of the pre-Vatican II Tridentine Mass and other Catholic rites.
    In pre-Vatican II times, the priest (celebrant of the Mass) was considered to be a part of the congregation, and a representative of the people.
    By turning the priest around to face the congregation, the priest was no longer a representative, but an “actor”, diminishing his status and importance.
    One area where the Catholic Church could improve itself involves celibacy, which is NOT Church “dogma” or doctrine. Celibacy was put in place during the middle ages in order to keep Church property from being inherited by family and relatives of priests and bishops. Celibacy was based on purely financial considerations–nothing more. It is interesting to note that Episcopal (Anglican) priests who convert to Catholicism can bring their families with them to the Church while Roman Catholic priests are denied marriage.
    It was a grave mistake by the Church to de-legitimize pre-Vatican II principles.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  246. Sam Shama says:
    @Hessler

    You’ve got too much bile in your system. Try going vegan for a month; I have it on good authority that it works.

    • Replies: @Hessler
  247. tac says:
    @tac

    Jews across the globe mourn the destruction of the first two Holy Temples that stood in Jerusalem 2,000 years ago. Yearning for the rebuilding plays a central role in the traditional prayers and scripture of the Jewish people. But how many are serious about physically rebuilding the actual structure?

    The Temple Institute commissioned the actual digital reconstruction of the grand building, with breathtaking results.

    http://jewishstandard.timesofisrael.com/leaked-plans-for-third-temple-in-jerusalem/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=11&v=A2IkxmwkayM

    He has been praising Trump for taking an “enormous step” toward making a rebuilt Third Temple a reality. The move, he said, “necessarily had to come from a non-Jew in order to bring them into the process, so they will be able to take their part in the Temple.”

    While some of these extreme religious Jews may be joining their Christian brothers and sisters in celebrating Trump’s bold move and sharing hopes that the building of the Temple is imminent, they prefer to ignore that the Christians and Jews want this to happen with very different goals in mind.

    Jews who want to rebuild the Temple believe that realizing this dream will revive a more complete and authentic practice of Judaism including ancient rituals such as animal sacrifices, as well as the judicial, legislative and executive authority of Jewish society from centuries past. While these Jews don’t preach that this will lead directly to the coming of the messiah, presumably they hope that on some level it will help.

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/trump-s-compared-to-persian-king-cyrus-will-he-build-the-third-temple-1.5628538

    • Replies: @gwynedd1
  248. Wally says:
    @Momus

    Indeed, witchcraft was acknowledged worldwide as well.
    Judicial notice established that it was fact, meaning that courts treated witchcraft as common knowledge, and therefore did not require evidence that witchcraft exists.

    A Los Angeles court found OJ Simpson innocent.

    We also notice that you ignore the fact that fraudulent ‘holocaust’ historian Hilberg was utterly trashed in court:
    ‘fraudulent historian Hilberg exposed in court’

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=100

    All of which is proof that what you are claiming is laughably absurd.

    I still do not see that any court showed us the human remains for ’6M Jews & 5M others’ that Jews claim to know the locations of.

    The Rudolf Report
    Expert Report on Chemical and Technical Aspects
    of the ‘Gas Chambers’ of Auschwitz

    http://vho.org/GB/Books/trr/index.html

    and:
    Some Technical and Chemical Considerations about the ‘Gas Chambers’ of Auschwitz and Birkenau
    By Germar Rudolf

    https://codoh.com/library/document/925/?lang=en

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Momus
  249. bjondo says:
    @L.K

    Interesting bottom pic.

    Coward to the left, coward to the right, turd in the middle.

    Yid, the people of walls, genocides, whining, sewage, now shields/shells.

    Should be renamed Turdles.

  250. Wally says:
    @Momus

    “Courts” accepted as fact that the Germans used atomic bombs on Jews

    “Courts” accepted as fact that the Germans used steam chambers for mass extermination of Jews.

    “Courts” accepted as fact that Germans executed 20,000 Polish officers at Katyn, when in fact it was a communist crime.

    The absurd ‘gas chambers’ were given ‘judicial notice’ (accepted as fact in post war trials and could not be argued against) even though no forensic study for these ‘gas chambers’ was ever presented.

    Recall that at Nuremberg is was stated that ‘the court was not bound by technical rules of evidence.

    http://www.codoh.com

  251. Wally says:
    @Realist

    “Name calling is the last refuge of those who cannot logically disprove an opposing point of view. ”

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Realist
  252. Momus says:
    @Vojkan

    Yes. We are in furious agreement about the Serbs.

  253. Momus says:
    @Wally

    One trick only Wally?

    You are making the representations here about 6 million/5 million.

    I know from the physical evidence, the witness accounts, and from their own documentation that the Nazis made a concerted attempt using many methods to exterminate European Jews during WW2.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    , @anon
  254. Momus says:
    @Vojkan

    Not going to get into the Balkans thing mate.

    The Palestinians are not smartly led.

    They could be doing very well.

    • Replies: @Vojkan
  255. anarchyst says:
    @Momus

    It’s actually approximately 731,000 per International Red Cross records…the “holocaust ™” is going DOWN…

  256. Vojkan says:
    @Momus

    If influential Jews had been as neutral as you on Balkans matters, people like me would have remained neutral with regards to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
    Apart from that, I agree the Israeli leadership is much better for Israelis than the Palestinian one for Palestinians.

  257. Hessler says:
    @Sam Shama

    Regardless of what I or anyone else does, won’t change the fact that your nemesis is coming. Keep typing until then. Even pigs should have their farewell.

  258. anon[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @Momus

    I know from the physical evidence, the witness accounts, and from their own documentation that the Nazis made a concerted attempt using many methods to exterminate European Jews during WW2.

    Show the evidence
    or fold.

    • Replies: @Momus
  259. gwynedd1 says:
    @tac

    I have to admit that I too will get some things out of this. First I will marvel at where they plan on getting the priesthood which was hereditary. That will be interesting. So will the Islamic world when the dome of the rock goes. If they get it up and running , the vegan reaction will also be very enjoyable. Then the Zio Christians will be waiting around for a charismatic leader to start killing Jews and they will be happy . Something in it for everyone.

    What a wonderful thing for the human race to be doing…

  260. @Vojkan

    “Maybe Putin just uses diplomatic language.”

    Putin isn’t a diplomat. He has diplomats. They can lie for him. They can have good relationship with the warmonger and war criminal – The King of Israel.

    We don’t have reasons to doubt that Putin considers that war criminal as a friend.
    Putin is supposed to be a Christian. Pope is also a Christian but Tony Blair – a well known war Criminal and friend of The King of Israel – is a member of the Church of Christ.
    Everything is possible.

    “Mentally stable grown-ups don’t bomb people to make a point.”
    No, Unless they are King of Israel and they got “authorization” from Putin

    “Would I smile for cameras with Netanyahu by my side?”
    No, unless you were a hypocrite.

    “If I were Putin and shaking hands with Netanyahu brought benefit to Russia, I would shake hands with Netanyahu.”

    Of course, you would. But you wouldn’t call yourself a Christian, would you ?

    A Christian can’t serve two masters: Devil and God. He has to choose.

    Those who are blind don’t know who Putin has chosen to serve.

    • Replies: @Vojkan
  261. Realist says:
    @Wally

    “Name calling is the last refuge of those who cannot logically disprove an opposing point of view. ”

    There is no opposing view….I don’t give a shit.

    • Replies: @Wally
  262. Bliss says:
    @anarchyst

    I cringe when I hear well-meaning people talk about out judeo-Christian heritage. Nothing could be further from the truth. The only common thread between Christianity and judaism is the Ten Commandments–nothing more.

    That means you cringe at the reality of your religion. The entire Old Testament is an integral part of your Holy Scripture. Jesus himself was Jewish. And so were his Apostles.

    The dogma of your Church is dependent on the Old Testament. Where do you think the concepts of Original Sin, Angry God, Messiah, Atonement through Blood Sacrifice came from?

    Jews DID murder Jesus Christ. Sad to say, even the present-day (post-Vatican II ecumenical council) Catholic church has bought into absolving the jews for Jesus Christ’s murder. As always is the case, the jews got others, the Romans to do their dirty work for them–the crucifixion of Jesus Christ.

    The Crucifixion of Christ is the crux of Christianity. A sacred event that saved you from eternal torture in Hell. It’s blasphemous of you to call it “dirty work”.

    By enabling the Blood Sacrifice (from which Jesus was shrinking when hiding), Judas, the Sanhedrin and the Romans were doing God’s holy work. Get with the program, heretic.

    The god of judaism is a vengeful god, totally unlike the merciful and welcoming God of Christianity.

    How can you say that while believing in an angry God and eternal Hell?

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  263. @Druid

    Sam Shama is a poster-child for anti-Semitism.

  264. @Bliss

    This is simply stupid. Whatever one thinks of Christianity, Jesus and his followers have nothing to do with those we would now consider to be Jews.

    • Replies: @Momus
  265. @Mulegino1

    Not to mention, at Treblinka there is absolutely no evidence that the claimed coverup (first burying then disinterring hundreds of thousands of corpses and burning them on open-air pyres) occurred. It’s the only crime in history where lack of evidence is taken as evidence.

  266. @Momus

    You can’t possibly be serious.

    • Replies: @Momus
  267. Sam Shama says:
    @Druid

    I didn’t call you stupid, did I? That would be name calling. Show me where I called my interlocutor, “names. Then check the replies to my comment.

  268. Bliss says:
    @AaronB

    It is a strange thing that the OT was slipped in like a Trojan Horse almost, there to gestate for centuries, until the Catholic Church eventually birthed a monster.

    No you ignoramus the Old Testament was not “slipped in like a Trojan Horse”. It has always been an openly integral part of the Canon of all Christian denominations, including Eastern Orthodox.

    Christianity is dependent on the Old Testament for it’s very existence.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  269. Bliss says:
    @Mulegino1

    One wonders at what point the people of Europe will wake up to the truth about Hitler and the Second World War and start asking themselves a few simple questions: “Are we better off or worse off than in 1939? Is it possible that Hitler was right, and that we the people really lost the war?

    Hitler was right in calling the Slavs untermensch (subhuman)? It was right of him to invade their homelands intending to kill or enslave them all?

    Was he right to murder the handicapped Germans? And those who protested against it?

    You and your “people” are evil. And it was good you lost the war?

  270. Wally says:
    @Realist

    said:
    “There is no opposing view….I don’t give a shit.”

    So that’s why your wasting so much time posting here?
    LOL

  271. @AaronB

    I am suggesting Europeans develop a clear idea of what they want – based on a clear identity, based on a clear religious vision and what constitutes transcendental values. This cannot be accomplished through open-ended logical inquiry – but is fundamentally a non-rational task.

    Perhaps you’ve read Phil Giraldi’s most recent article,
    Among the Persians

    https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/among-the-persians/

    In my view, the title had tremendous significance: Iranians have a “clear identity, based on a clear cultural vision . . . and what constitutes transcendent values.” Although there are numerous ethnic groups in Iran, the Iranian people are united — bonded, even — in their Persian identity and cultural legacy. That Persian identity is neither Jewish nor Christian: it predated both, and lent to them ethical values derived from Zoroaster.

    That is why Trump and the zio – neocon ghouls can not break Iran.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  272. AaronB says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Indeed you are correct.

    Groups firmly grounded in ancient spiritual traditions have an inestimable advantage over groups that live by open-ended inquiry. They cannot be broken – though they may be defeated, it is never final.

    Persia will survive the West.

    I also found the faith and serene good cheer of that Palestinian mother I mentioned above quite heartening – that is what it means to be spiritually grounded. The Palestinians will outlive Israel.

    The current order is temporary and quite fragile.

    • Agree: Hessler
  273. AaronB says:
    @Bliss

    True. But I find that from one perspective to be almost an accident of history.

    It is possible to view the OT as a tale of moral maturation, culminating in the Prophets – who were practically proto-christians. This is to deprive it of much of its sting.

    Somehow in the West, the OT came to be seen as not a tale of growth, with its values transitional and gradually evolving towards perfection – but as representing ripe perfection in itself. This was a calamity.

  274. AaronB says:
    @anarchyst

    Certainly there are substantive differences between Catholicism and Protestantism.

    However, Christianity in the West seems from an early date to have been evolving towards ego, self-assertion, and individualism – the 11th century schism with the East, IIRC, was because the West demanded primacy while the East was quite prepared to share status – even accept a slightly subordinate one.

    This is indicative and significant. A distinctive and malign sensibility was already emerging in the West, with all the sorrowful consequences we are only reaping today.

    While I have little patience with Protestantism, I find many fine and good things in Catholicism – but it would surely have to be refined and purified before it could once again become a pure vessel for the spiritual longings of the West that will emerge after the current period of calamity will have run its course.

  275. AaronB says:

    But all these are details, for the moment.

    The urgent task before us, to relieve the agony of the modern world, is to get rid of the Enlightenment, relegate logic to a secondary instrumental role, and abandon materialism.

    We are at an impasse until that happens.

    • Replies: @James Brown
  276. Momus says:
    @anon

    Window licker grade comment.

    Check out the discussion we’ve been having regarding ‘Judicial notice’.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @anarchyst
  277. Momus says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    Except he lived in Jerusalem and what is now Israel. Hardly a connection at all.

  278. Momus says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    It’s there as a defining legal principle, a powerful precedent; quoted across countries when deniers are being booted or jailed.

  279. @Bliss

    The Nazi euthanasia program was not pleasant but it was little more than the logical culmination of eugenics programs that existed throughout the West at the time. And it was ended after protestations from the German Churches and public. So much for “totalitarian” Germany (one cannot conceive of such public opposition in, say, Stalin’s Soviet Union).

    • Replies: @Wally
  280. Bliss says:
    @Bliss

    Reason (scientific) also confirms the ancient spiritual teaching that the World we live in is as unreal as an illusion, a dream, a mirage

    Or a videogame?

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/oct/11/simulated-world-elon-musk-the-matrix

  281. Wally says:
    @Bliss

    There is no proof that Hitler ‘intended to kill or enslave all slavs’.
    If so, he would have. After all, he could have.

    “we’ve often fantasized about drawing up an indictment against Adolf Hitler himself. And to put into that indictment the major charge: the Final Solution of the Jewish question in Europe, the physical annihilation of Jewry. And then it dawned upon us, what would we do? We didn’t have the evidence.”
    - “holocaust historian” Raul Hilberg,

    The German euthanasia program was no different than euthansia programs all over the world today.
    There is no proof of the Zionist lie of ’200,000′ murdered within that program.
    And you don’t have any.
    There is no proof of your lie that those who opposed it were murdered.
    And you don’t have any.

    http://www.codoh.com

    Revisionists are just the messengers, the absurd impossibility of the laughable ‘holocaust’ storyline is the message.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
    , @Bliss
  282. Vojkan says:
    @James Brown

    I agree that you can’t serve both Christ and the devil. Shaking hands and serving are not the same thing though. If shaking hands with the devil gives temporary respite to those he torments, I would shake hands with the devil. Nevertheless, I wouldn’t give him my soul.
    Maybe you’re right, maybe Putin does serve the wrong master. Or maybe Putin had a muslim stepfather that made him wary of muslims. Or maybe people put too high hopes in politicians whose daughters married Jewish crooks.
    I judge by results. In Ukraine, in Syria, it’s exactly how I would have reacted. From now, we’ll see what the future brings. Since I always expect the worse of all politicians – after all, if they were capable of earning a living honestly, they wouldn’t be politicians -, I won’t be disappoined, as many people here seem to be disappointed by their champions. The fight against the devil is a long one and the politicians, though they may be useful, won’t win it. Only the people can put the devil at bay. Currently, people do too many things to serve him rather than Christ.

    • Replies: @utu
  283. @AaronB

    Maybe if you’re serious – and I’m not accusing you of not being – , you should forget “we”, “us”, “they”, and just concentrated in “I” “even though , as you know, “I” doesn’t exist.

    Abandon “Enlightenment”, “materialism.” , “Desire” etc…You can take that decision on your own.

    You can’t invite anyone else to do the same or convince anyone else to do the same.

    I’m sure you know that.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  284. Wally says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    Are any of the world’s countless euthanasia programs “pleasant”?
    The very nature of euthanasia is necessarily grim, yet something that people find acceptable.

    Cheers.

  285. anon[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @Momus

    Check out the discussion we’ve been having regarding ‘Judicial notice’.

    In which you had your ass handed to you in a teacup, vanquished like Hezbollah squished IDF.

    Just a quick scan — you posted the same crap in about 16 comments; in not a single one of them did you present actual evidence that would equal that which is required to successfully contest a parking ticket.

    Momus is Wally without the truth, integrity, or facts..

    It’s there as a defining legal principle, a powerful precedent; quoted across countries when deniers are being booted or jailed

    .

    That makes your dick go wiggle-waggle, don’t it.
    Jews doing what Jews do: bastardizing the legal system to punish and silence people who resist and tell the truth about the lies they have been living off of for millennia.

    • Replies: @Wally
  286. AaronB says:
    @James Brown

    Of course I can’t force anyone to make that decision. Don’t worry, no one is going to force you.

    By “we” I mean the remnant that will survive and recover their health.

  287. utu says:
    @Vojkan

    Russian media goes against Syrian claims and side with Pentagon:

    Reports on US-led bombing of Syrian Army are incorrect – Russian military source

    https://www.rt.com/news/427608-reports-us-strikes-syria-incorrect/

    • Replies: @Vojkan
  288. anarchyst says:
    @Momus

    Judicial notice”, a legal doctrine, is used to turn a “commonly accepted belief”, however wrong, or even scientifically and physically impossible, into the equivalent of “religious orthodoxy” from which no dissent or counter-argument is permitted. THIS is the tool that jews use to legitimize even the most outlandish and ridiculous holocaust ™ claims.
    This tactic was used in the Nuremberg trials to good effect, and is used in today’s “kangaroo courts” against those who dare question the lies, fabrications, and claims of witnesses about any aspect of the holocaust ™.
    The two latest victims of “judicial notice” and “holocaustianity ™” are 8o-plus-year-old grandmothers Monika Schaefer and Ursula Haverbeck who are incarcerated in German high-security prisons as we speak.
    TRUTH cannot be used as a defense when “judicial review” is invoked..

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  289. Vojkan says:
    @utu

    Obviously, somebody’s lying. So who has the most and who has the least interest in lying? Why would the Syrians lie that the Americans attacked them? Why would the Americans lie that they didn’t? Why would the Russians confirm the American version and deny the Syrian version? Maybe nobody lies. Maybe the Syrians were attacked, maybe the Americans didn’t attack them, maybe the Russians tell the truth when they confirm what the Americans say. But then, who attacked the Syrians? We know who wants chaos in Syria and has an interest in keeping the Arabs dispersed and weak rather than disciplined and strong but is it Russia’s interest too?
    If Putin is capable of such bad moves, the good ones become a mystery.

  290. @anarchyst

    Another important posting on John Wear’s site

    Lord Hankey, of The House of Lords Denounced The Ruling Out Of ‘Obedience To Orders’ & ‘Act of State’ As A Defense In The Nuremberg “Trials”

    https://wearswar.wordpress.com/2018/05/24/nuremberg-farce-quote-36-lord-hankey-the-house-of-lords-denounced-the-ruling-out-of-obedience-to-orders-act-of-state-as-a-defense-in-the-nuremberg-trials/

    Wear wrote: “After World War II, Hankey emerged as a leading critic of war crimes trials, and in his 1950 book Politics, Trials and Errors argued that the Allies had no right to convict German and Japanese leaders of war crimes.”

    This quote from that book:

    The proud story of British justice is occasionally marred by shabby episodes where the national character falls below its accustomed standards of chivalry, honour and common sense. Examples are the burning of Joan of Arc in the market place of Rouen in May, 1431; the trial of King Charles I and his execution in Whitehall on January 30, 1649; . . . all of which have been condemned by modern historians.

    To that list, I doubt not will be added in due course the War Crimes Trials that began with the Nuremberg International Military Tribunal on 20 November, 1945, and ended, so far as Great Britain was concerned, with the trial which is so well described in this volume…

    The trials in the British zone of which [Field-Marshal] von Manstein’s was one, had one merit, namely that charges for “Crimes against Peace” and crimes against humanity were not included. But, apart from this, they reveal many of the errors of their predecessors at Nuremberg, Tokyo and in the American zone, e.g.:

    [next are listed five objectionable elements of the American, etc. trials from which the British deviated in the trial of Field-Marshal von Manstein — see https://wearswar.wordpress.com/2018/05/24/nuremberg-farce-quote-36-lord-hankey-the-house-of-lords-denounced-the-ruling-out-of-obedience-to-orders-act-of-state-as-a-defense-in-the-nuremberg-trials/comment-page-1/#comment-2367

    Most significant, at this specific time in US history, is this element to which Lord Hankey objected:

    the creation contrary to the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights and of the Geneva Convention on the treatment of Prisoners of War, of new ex post facto crimes, that were not criminal or even illegal at the time the acts to which they refer were committed;

    This is significant in view of the recent confirmation of Gina Haspel to head US CIA. It has been charged that, as a CIA employee, Haspel oversaw the torture of prisoners. In Senate testimony, she declined to give forthright answers to those charges, explaining instead that she did nothing that was not outside the law at the time. She did promise, if confirmed, to abide by law in the future.

    In other words, Nuremburg prosecutors arranged the law such that Germans were hanged for violating laws that did not exist at the time they took the alleged action; but Gina Haspel is rewarded and promoted for committing acts that were clearly in violation of those very United Nations Declarations, created by Nuremberg, that are now, and were then, constraints on signatories to UN Charter.

    This double-standard is so obvious, one might expect the principle of Judicial Notice. to apply.

    • Replies: @Momus
  291. Momus says:

    Funny juxtaposition. I don’t think Haspel was being accused of complicity in the murder of millions.

    • Replies: @Wally
  292. Wally says:
    @Momus

    Well yes, the parasitical Usual Enemies of Free Speech accuse everyone but themselves of all sorts of fake ‘crimes’. That is the game they play. It reflects a complete lack of honor.

    fact: Jews have been crying about their ’6M’ lie since at least 1823.

    http://www.codoh.com

  293. Josecanuc says:
    @Mulegino1

    “The problem is not so much gentile stupidity but gentile naivete and the propensity to fall for the “Big Lie” strategy which, as a long effective artifice, international Jewry knows how to employ with unparalleled expertise.”

    ‘I wonder if we could contrive the noble (majestic) lie that would in itself carry conviction to our whole community.’ Plato, The Republic

    Israel Shahak in Jewish History Jewish Religion wrote that, when they read it the Chief Rabbis of Israel were impressed and influenced by Plato’s Republic. In The Republic Plato declared that those who govern must be carefully trained through a lifelong process of education (via the ‘mass media’ of today) – for the masses are incapable of selecting the best, the wisest rulers. Machiavelli at least apologized for the methods which he thought necessary in politics. He regretted the necessity of force and fraud and did not call them by any other name. But Plato sanctified them, provided that they were used to sustain their own Utopian republics.’
    “Ben-Gurion did not pretend that the re-establishment of the kingdom of David and Solomon will benefit anybody except the Jewish state. Using the concepts of Platonism to analyze Israeli policies based on ‘Jewish ideology’ should not seem strange. It was noticed by several scholars, of whom the most important was Moses Hadas, who claimed that the foundations of ‘classical Judaism’, that is, of Judaism as it was established by talmudic sages, are based on Platonic influences and especially on the image of Sparta as it appears in Plato’s The Republic. According to Hadas, a crucial feature of the Platonic political system, adopted by Judaism as early as the Maccabean period (142-63 BC), was ‘that every phase of human conduct be subjected to religious sanctions which are in fact to be manipulated by the ruler.’
    There can be no better definition of ‘classical Judaism’ and of the ways in which the rabbis manipulated it than this Platonic definition. In particular Hadas claims that Judaism adopted what ‘Plato himself summarized as the objectives of his program’ , in the following well-known passage: “The principal thing is that no one, man or woman, should ever be without an officer set over him, and that none should get the mental habit of taking any step, whether in earnest or in jest, on his individual responsibility. In peace as in war he must live always with his eyes on his superior officer…In a word, we must train the mind not even to consider acting as an individual or know how to do it.’ (Plato, The Laws, 942 ab) If the word ‘rabbi’ (master, teacher) is substituted for ‘an officer’ in Plato’s Republic we will have a perfect image of classical Judaism. The latter is still deeply influencing Israeli-Jewish society (Jewish temperament) and determining to a large extent the Israeli policies.” Israel Shahak, Jewish History, Jewish Religion

    “The chief source of disorder in society is the hypocrisy of those who pretend to be virtuous (‘righteous’), on the one hand, while all the time behaving contrary to their professed beliefs.” Plato, The Republic

    • Replies: @Anon
  294. Wally says:
    @Realist

    erroneously said:

    “Naivete becomes stupidity very quickly.”

    No it doesn’t.

    There is a big difference, but those who lack subtlety do not, cannot, will not understand.

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Realist
  295. Wally says:
    @Mulegino1

    Well said, Mulegino.

    Hence the need for ‘hate speech laws’ in an attempt to stop the inevitable.

    http://www.codoh.com

  296. Wally says:
    @anon

    said:

    “Momus is Wally without the truth, integrity, or facts..”

    IOW, Momus is not me. And thank you.

    Anyone can say what they will about what I present, but they are talking about what I present.

    Cheers.

    http://www.codoh.com

  297. Realist says:
    @Wally

    Waldo, take a shit and clear your mind!

    • Replies: @Wally
  298. Wally says:
    @Realist

    Realist proves for us once again that he has a very low IQ.

    I suspect manual labor is his gig. But hey, nothing wrong with manual labor. We all need sod carriers from time to time.

    Here he is now:

  299. Momus says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Yes they executed many Germans on the basis of the’common knowledge’ of the holocaust because of Nuremberg.

    What the CIA did in Iraq was hardly the moral equivalent of the most mild of the Nazis interrogation techniques, and fully open to contention as to if it constituted torture.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  300. @Momus

    Momus, you are a jerk whose mission here is to hijack and disrupt from whatever is the topic of the article.

    Your spiel — your regurgitation of lies and propaganda — is old, tired, boring and makes you look really really dumb and desperate.

    Go away.

    • LOL: Hessler
  301. Incitatus says:
    @Wally

    “The German euthanasia program was no different than euthansia programs all over the world today”

    Where is involuntary euthanasia practiced? Fifth request.

    Is involuntary euthanasia desirable? If so, why? Who decides who’s snuffed? Fourth request.

    What’s the difference (if any) between involuntary euthanasia and murder? Fifth request.

    “There is no proof of the Zionist lie of ’200,000′ murdered within that program.”

    “Zwischen 1939 und 1945 wurden ca. 200.000 Frauen, Männer und Kinder aus psychiatrischen Einrichtungen des Deutschen Reichs im mehreren verdeckten Aktionen durch Vergasung, Medikamente oder unzureichende Ernährung ermordet”

    –‘Euthanasie im Dritten Reich’, Bundesarchiv [‘Euthanasia in the Third Reich’, German Federal Archive], summary of archive R 179 of the Chancellery of the Führer Main Office

    Was the Chancellery of the Führer Main Office Zionist?

  302. Wally says:

    “Involuntary euthanasia”? Irrelevant. 6th response. Yawn.

    “‘Euthanasie im Dritten Reich’, Bundesarchiv [‘Euthanasia in the Third Reich’, German Federal Archive], summary of archive R 179 of the Chancellery of the Führer Main Office”

    Is this another joke?

    - So why can’t we see actually this alleged “document” you refer to?
    - Is that all there is?
    - In fact it’s no document at all, just someone saying something.
    Just like the German atomic bomb claim. And ‘mass extermination in ‘steam chambers’, and the ‘bicycle races in the gas chambers’, on & on.
    - There are written claims of witchcraft as well.
    - We only see German text that anyone could have written for whatever purpose they desired and placed where they wanted it placed, IF it’s even there at all, you cannot even prove that.
    - If this docuent was real we’d be seeing it 24/7/365, we don’t see at all, anywhere. LOL
    - Who wrote what you supposedly quoted?
    - When was it supposedly written?
    - Where are the names of those supposedly murdered?

    There is simply no proof and you still have not, cannot, produce any.
    But then that is the Zionist way.

    The “Holocau$t Industry” in court:
    ‘Please your honor, there really are remains of millions buried in huge mass graves, we know where the mass graves are, … but, but, well, umm, we can’t show the court the human remains. You must trust us, we’re Zionists.’

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  303. Josecanuc says:
    @AaronB

    “The uppermost idea with Hellenism is to see things as they really are; the uppermost idea with Hebraism is conduct and obedience.” Matthew Arnold, Culture and Anarchy, 1869

  304. Incitatus says:
    @Wally

    ““Involuntary euthanasia”? Irrelevant. 6th response. Yawn.”

    Actually, it’s your first response. Something easily checked in archive. Furthermore, “irrelevant” is not a response, it’s an evasion. “Yawn”? You and Mighty BM certainly make the most of involuntary bodily functions. Be careful with matches.

    “So why can’t we see actually this alleged “document” you refer to?”

    Good news, you can! Get off your giant ass and open your eyes! The archive is plainly visible, contact them! Disclaimer: I do not in any way suggest Wally takes physical or mental risks that may unduly exert or endanger his health. Wally: consult your physician, check with your pharmacist for interactive drug conflicts. Needless to say, check with codoh to see if reading original sources and genuine history jeopardizes your salary.

    “In fact it’s no document at all, just someone saying something”

    Said the deaf man after Beethoven’s Ninth. The “someone” is the Führer’s very own bureaucrats. The guys you love. Everything they ‘said’ signaled the death of fellow helpless Germans, killed without trial or due process. Their careers depended on accurate reports. Meticulous precision, even when listing murders, was the path to promotion. Klaus supervised 20,050 murders? Well, Hans did 22,150! Take a bow Hans! Der Führer would be proud! List it in the book! Let’s have a party! Here’s a pretty medal to wear!

    “If this docuent was real we’d be seeing it 24/7/365, we don’t see at all, anywhere. LOL”

    Open your eyes. Everyone else sees it. BTW emperor Wally, you’re naked.

    “Who wrote what you supposedly quoted?”

    Functionaries in Aktion T4 reported to functionaries in Chancellery of the Führer Main Office to – Jackpot Wally! – the Big Kahuna, Mr. Big, Dolf (Eva’s future mate) himself! God bless German worker bees. Would Hitler tolerate sloppy inaccuracy? Don’t think so.

    “The German euthanasia program was no different than euthansia programs all over the world today”

    Where is involuntary euthanasia practiced? Sixth request.

    “Is this another joke?”

    You tell us, Wally.

    • Replies: @Wally
  305. Wally says:
    @Incitatus

    Yawn. Once, again you try to change the subject with irrelevant nonsense not related to your absurd T4 discussion. We know why. Only the desperate try to change the subject. 7th response.

    Here you go, from the German archives, proof taken captured from the Allies that US & British troops murdered 200,000 gypsies:

    “Between 1944 & early 1945 our Allied Forces murdered 2oo,ooo gypsies as shown in testimonies by Allied troops, autopsy doctors and eyewitnesses.”
    - ‘Murder of Gypsies by Allies’, Bundesarchiv, German Federal Archive], summary of archive W 77 of the German Main Document Office.

    That, according to you, is proof. LOL

    Still waiting for you to produce a document that you claim exists, heretofore you have not produced it … beacayse it doesn’t exist. G ahead, show us and prove me wrong. LOL

    You still have not told us who wrote this fake & non-existant “document’. You just make stuff up about phantom “Functionaries in Aktion T4″.
    “Functionaries”? Is that your best shot? LOL

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  306. Incitatus says:

    “you [Momus] are a jerk whose mission here is to hijack and disrupt from whatever is the topic of the article.
    Your spiel — your regurgitation of lies and propaganda — is old, tired, boring and makes you look really really dumb and desperate.

    –SolontoCrœsus 25 May 208 #307
    http://www.unz.com/ishamir/the-messiah-is-here/#comment-2344333

    My, oh my, oh my. How could it have come to this? Do the gods frown on UR, S2C? Or did you just trip on one of you thresholds? No matter. In spirit of preventing same in future, let me offer the following.

    NEW POSTER’S GUIDE to successful interactions with SolontoCrœsus on Planet Germania, where [whisper] water runs uphill and Hell is frigid. The way to S2C’s heart is:

    • Sympathetically mention Italian orphans as THE tragedy of WW2. Take care to remain silent on all other orphans, except (of course) German orphans. Repeat, do not mention orphaned Ethiopians, Libyans, Cyrenaicans, Spaniards, Albanians, French, Yugoslavs, Greeks, Maltese, Russians, or (least of all) Italian Jews.

    • S2C’s a loyal German ally, so play it safe – mum’s the word on orphaned Austrians, Poles, Sudetens, Czechs, Danes, Norwegians, Luxembourgers, Belgians, Dutch, English, Australians, Canadians, Americans – you get the idea. Mention only Italian (non-Jewish) orphans (heavy emphasis, lots of tears) and German victimhood. Enough said.

    • Lament the Jewish Boycott on Germany declared in 1933 and characterize it as ‘war on Germany’ (though Germany alone had an army). Do not mention Adolf Hitler’s declaration of war on Jews on 16 September 1919, regularly repeated thereafter with promises of stripping Jews of citizenship, property, and all other human rights.

    • Praise heroic Nazi selflessness in occupied France, protecting it from evil Allies. Do not mention the 90,000 French soldiers killed and 200,000 wounded in 1940, the 350,000 French civilians who died 1940-44, the 1.5 million French POWs held until 1945 to guarantee ‘cooperation’, the ‘confiscation’ (theft) of everything from industry to art, the 650,000 French pressed into work in das Vaterland, or the 400 million francs per day paid by France for the privilege of German occupation.

    • Contribute a dollar to S2C’s ‘Replace Holocaust Histories with Italian Orphan Tearjerkers’ campaign. It would go a long way to win him over. Mention ‘Many Thresholds’ with your donation. Do not mention ‘ambulance chasing’ lawyers.

    • When published, praise S2C’s long-awaited ‘My Father Fought Fascists I Love, But He’s OK’.

    • Praise the heartwarming sequel ‘My Mom’s land was Confiscated by Il Duce, But I Still Love Him’.

    • Whatever you do – repeat – whatever you do, don’t mention the Allies’ secret weapon: Benny Mussolini’s army.

    Good luck.

    No need to thank me, S2C.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    , @Wally
  307. Incitatus says:
    @Wally

    “you try to change the subject with irrelevant nonsense not related to your absurd T4 discussion…”

    Kindly furnish said nonsense. Quotes please.

    “Only the desperate try to change the subject… US & British troops murdered 200,000 gypsies”

    Help me out Wally. Are you changing the subject? We were talking about German Aktion T4 victims. Ayrans. You respond with Gypsies? Isn’t that ‘changing the subject’? By your own dictum, aren’t you “desperate”?

    Calm down. Have you consulted your physician and pharmacist? Have myself no experience with Cialus or Viagra, so sadly no advice to give. Maybe someone in the Bund can assist you? Mighty BM or S2C? No doubt they’ve gone through this many times. Just remember, say “Heil Mein Führer” as you take the pill.

    “7th response”

    Cognition problems? It’s your second response on this question, easily checked in archive. Furthermore, “irrelevant nonsense” is not a response, it is – as said before – an evasion.

    “Yawn”

    I respect that. How profound. You best intellectual contribution to date. Congratulations. Point of morbid curiosity: You don’t smoke, do you? Word to the wise: beware matches after bodily emissions.

    “Functionaries in Aktion T4..”Functionaries”? Is that your best shot? LOL”

    The ‘functionaries’ were avid Nazis – your people! For shame Wally! You question their loyalty and accuracy? You question the Führer? What can you offer as counterbalance? Phony ‘engineer’ Freddie Leuchter and Ernst ‘The Hitler We Loved and Why‘ Zündel? CODOH sludge from the inner septic tank?

    “Desperate” indeed!

  308. @Incitatus

    I would thank you but your list is woefully inadequate.

    You failed to mention anything at all about Persia/Iran, the topic of this article, or were you too busy scanning archives? You missed S2C’s frequent mention of Zoroaster, the soul of Persian culture and the root of ethics in Judaism and Christianity.

    There are numerous problems beyond that, but Momma always said, Never engage in a battle of wits with someone who is not adequately armed.

    Besides, anyone who would sneer at the suffering of orphans, whether Italian, Palestinian, Chinese, Vietnamese or Martian, is a shit-stain that does not deserve serious regard.

    Maybe there’s room for you in the sandbox w/ Momus & iffy.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  309. Wally says:

    Well duh, obviously you missed my comparative satire. LOL
    Your problem.

    Still waiting for you to produce a document that you claim exists, heretofore you have not produced it … because it doesn’t exist. Go ahead, show us and prove me wrong. LOL

    You still have not told us who wrote your fake & non-existent “document’. You just make stuff up about phantom “Functionaries in Aktion T4″.
    “Functionaries”? Is that your best shot? LOL

    - So then, who wrote what you supposedly quoted? A name please.
    - When was it supposedly written?
    - Where are the names of those supposedly murdered?

    Do you, a Zionist … LOL, really think that calling me childish names bothers me?

    Still owning you.

    http://www.codoh.com

  310. Wally says:
    @Incitatus

    said:
    ” Do not mention Adolf Hitler’s declaration of war on Jews on 16 September 1919, regularly repeated thereafter with promises of stripping Jews of citizenship, property, and all other human rights.”

    What declaration of war? In 1919. He had no army. He took office in 1933. LOL
    said:
    “Do not mention the 90,000 French soldiers killed and 200,000 wounded in 1940, the 350,000 French civilians who died 1940-44, the 1.5 million French POWs held until 1945 to guarantee ‘cooperation’, the ‘confiscation’ (theft) of everything from industry to art, the 650,000 French pressed into work in das Vaterland, or the 400 million francs per day paid by France for the privilege of German occupation.”

    - BTW, there was a war going on and France surrendered to Germany.
    - Please give the primary source for your “350,000 French civilians ”
    Does that include the ones that the Allies killed? LOL
    - What thefts?
    See:
    ‘German taskforce: only 5 of 1,500 artworks were ‘looted’ ‘

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1032

    - You mean the real French who agreed to work & that Germany paid them for their labor?
    - Why do you ignore the Communists use of slave labor?
    - Why do you ignore the Japanese-Americans put into US concentration camps and the theft of their property?
    - Please present primary sources for your “400 million francs per day paid by France”.

    - Please show us the immense Jew remains which Jews like you say exist and that they know the exact locations of. Recall the claim of 900,000 Jews buried at Treblinka, 1,250,000 Jews at Auschwitz, or 250,000 Jews at Sobibor, 34,000 Jews at Babi Yar.

    The rest of your childish post is ignored.

    http://www.codoh,com

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  311. Incitatus says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    “You missed S2C’s frequent mention of…”

    Speaking of yourself in the third person S2C? Learn that in law school? Allows you to bill at a higher multiple?

    “You failed to mention anything at all about Persia/Iran, the topic of this article, or were you too busy scanning archives?”

    [Clear throat, look at ceiling, cue Twilight Zone theme]

    Sure you’re on the right article S2C? This isn’t Giraldi’s ‘Among the Persians’. It’s Shamir’s ‘The Messiah Is Here’. Israel’s 70th? Now might be a good time to check for drool.

    “Besides, anyone who would sneer at the suffering of orphans, whether Italian, Palestinian, Chinese, Vietnamese or Martian, is a shit-stain that does not deserve serious regard.”

    Who’s sneering? Whisper: Your bare teeth are showing.

    OK. Sorry to have upset you, S2C (third person and all). Orphans are off-limits. “Shit-stain”. Got it. Worshiping those who made orphans – many, many, many orphans – including German and Italian orphans – is morally superior? What does that make you? Stain or shit?

    Care to lead us in a chorus of Die Fahne Hoch?

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  312. Incitatus says:
    @Wally

    “In 1919. He [Hitler] had no army. He took office in 1933. LOL”

    In 1919 Hitler was in the army, writing in its behalf. Scapegoating Jews helped conceal the General Staff’s monumental incompetence in launching and losing the late war.

    “Please give the primary source…”

    Why? You never acknowledge them. Even words from the Führer’s very lips. It’s a waste of my time.

    “Why do you ignore the Japanese-Americans put into…”

    Do I? Prove it. No codoh links please.

    Why do you ignore the 200,000 Germans murdered by Aktion T4? The victims (e.g. Schleicher, wife, et al.) murdered in Operation Hummingbird?

    “Please show us the immense Jew remains… Where are the names of those supposedly murdered”

    Please show us the remains of German civilians killed in Dresden 13-15 Feb 1945. Please show us the remains of Japanese civilians killed at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Please list all victim names. Please identify each source for each victim name. Use original German and Japanese, as well as English.

    “Do you, a Zionist … LOL, really think that calling me childish names bothers me?”

    Scratch of head and frown. Did I miss something (possible)? What names have I called? While you’re at it, kindly quote my “Zionist” advocacy.

    Sure you’re not the one calling “childish names”?

    “The rest of your childish post is ignored.”

    Translation: Wally can’t answer truthfully.

    • Replies: @Wally
  313. There is much dishonesty and stupidity here from the usual suspects. The fact is, involuntary assisted suicide is a reality in the “progressive” EU, and even growing public consensus for the voluntary form grants the central point of euthanasia: at some point a particular life becomes a burden to both individual and society. The controversy of this position is completely irrelevant here. The phony howling over what may have happened in Germany 80 years ago is just so much posturing.

    https://erlc.com/resource-library/articles/how-euthanasia-came-to-europe

    • Replies: @L.K
    , @Incitatus
  314. @Incitatus

    You’re as boring as Momus.

    This is more interesting:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2392&v=7DG4baswsiM

    Patrick Little is taking a bold stand, against a powerful mainstream.
    I’d love to see him refine his presentation; he’s on the right track.

    It’s also informative to analyze the Interviewer’s prods and comments: Little is breaking out of the frame but she wants to force him back into the box.

    “Let’s not talk about those books . . . You really want to talk about those books . . . ”

    Here’s a transcript of Newsweek interview of Little — S2C hasn’t studied it yet — S2C was eager to get you updated.

    ttps://katana17.wordpress.com/2018/05/07/patrick-little-interview-with-newsweek-apr-30-2018-transcript/

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  315. @SolontoCroesus

    Should not have posted the Patrick Little stuff without reading it thoroughly.

    The Newsweek interview is very poorly done; Little’s ideas are not very carefully thought out and formed. He needs more expansive study than just “Culture of Critique.”

    PS S2C had prepared a lengthy, point-by-point response to Incitatus’s initial posting, which S2C decided to scrap, Incitatus’s demeaning of Italian orphans got under S2C’s sterling veneer.

    Maybe later.

    Both Inc & Wally are confused re the Sept 16 speech.

    • Replies: @Wally
  316. hyperbola says:
    @Echoes of History

    Keep in mind that the article I linked is from an Israeli jew.

    What do you think we should do about sects that brainwash children to produce racist abuse?

    Israel/Palestine and the Queer International – A Book Review by Gilad Atzmon

    http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/israelpalestine-and-the-queer-international-a-book-review-by.html

    ….In the very beginning of the book, Schulman provides us with an amazing confession most Jews would prefer to shove far under the carpet.

    “We were raised with two Yiddish concepts about Christians: kopf and punim. Yiddishe kopf and Goyishe kopf. To say that someone had a Yiddishe kopf (A Jewish mind) was to say admiringly that he was a genius, that he was analytical and conceptual and an original thinker. To say that someone had a goyishe kopf was to say that he was dull-witted, conformist and slow” (p. 2).

    One must admit that only rarely do Jews volunteer such intimate information that confirms the depth of racism and supremacy embedded within Jewish culture.

    A few pages later Schulman is honest enough to admit that she also is immersed in some deep biological determinist thinking.

    “Of course, like many Jews, I do think of myself in biological terms, despite how convenient that is for anti-Semitism. There is after all, a genetic component, since Jewish Identity—from the Jewish point of view is biologically essentialist, dependent on having a Jewish mother” (p. 10).

    It goes without saying that evolutionary psychologist Prof. Kevin MacDonald and Right Wing author David Duke are hounded relentlessly by the ADL and the progressive Jewish network for basically agreeing with Schulman…..

  317. Wally says:
    @Incitatus

    So corporal Hitler was “writing on behalf of the army”. LOL

    I ‘never acknowledged you primary sources’ because you never gave them. LOL

    You have not proved those alleged words are from the Fuehrer’s lips. LOL
    But we keep waiting.

    I note you cannot show what you’ve posted in regards to Japanese-Americans, because there is nothing to show. That’s my “proof”. LOL

    Human remains of Dresden, Hiroshima & Nagasaki can be easily found.
    There are films of those bombings and endless photos. Do you deny those bombings?
    Here you go, search:
    human remains Dresden, Hiroshima & Nagasaki
    and the results:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=human+remains+Dresden,+Hiroshima+%26+Nagasaki&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi8iozi86PbAhUwCDQIHea4AZ0Q_AUIDCgD&biw=1366&bih=626

    Ouch !!

    Once again Zionist Incitatus is in over his head and shown the door.
    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Incitatus
    , @Sam Shama
  318. Wally says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    said:
    “Both Inc & Wally are confused re the Sept 16 speech.”

    I’m confused how?

    Thanks.
    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  319. L.K says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    B.M: “There is much dishonesty and stupidity here from the usual suspects.”

    Yep. Great comments as usual.

    BTw, do you hang anywhere – on the net – besides here?

    Cheers

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  320. @Wally

    Greetings Comrade ** (that’s upper case 88. for iffen’s amusement. looks like tiny cat paw prints)

    @313 Incitatus wrote: “Do not mention Adolf Hitler’s declaration of war on Jews on 16 September 1919, regularly repeated thereafter with promises of stripping Jews of citizenship, property, and all other human rights.”

    @317 Wally wrote, correctly: “What declaration of war? In 1919. He had no army. He took office in 1933. LOL”

    @319 Incitatus dug that hole a little deeper: [quoting Wally]““In 1919. He [Hitler] had no army. He took office in 1933. LOL
    [Incitatus] In 1919 Hitler was in the army, writing in its behalf. Scapegoating Jews helped conceal the General Staff’s monumental incompetence in launching and losing the late war.


    a. Apologies to Wally. His comment @317 is obviously correct: Hitler had no army in 1919.

    b. #313 is dead wrong; there was no declaration of war in Hitler’s letter of 16 September 1919.

    According to Jewish Virtual Library (which may be a biased, neo-Nazi source. YouTubeian Warning!!), consequent to having completed a course in German nationalism, and having been requested to report his thinking on the Jewish Question, on 16 Sept 1919 Hitler

    QUOTE

    appears anxious to establish his credentials as a knowledgeable anti-Semite though his rhetoric is quite tame, stressing the need for a “rational” and “scientific” antisemitism. Hitler calls for the “irrevocable removal” of Jews from German life, but it is clear from the context that, at this point, Hitler meant only segregation or expulsion rather than systematic liquidation.

    END QUOTE

    #313 includes the statement: “regularly repeated thereafter” which prompted S2C to think Inci was referring to Hitler’s January, 1939 speech, which was repeated several times.

    #319 appears to reveal that Inci did not know what the hell he/she/it was talking about and so regurgitated Hollywood history. The September 1919 report makes no mention of the war loss; its point of departure is the November revolution and the German (Weimar) Republic; it is a keen analysis of the ways- of- being- of Jews within other cultures and particularly German culture. <strike:I've S2C has read only précis of McDonald’s Culture of Critique; that work and Hitler’s Sept. 1919 report match on numerous points. Patrick Little’s assessment of Jews in USA also correlates closely w/ the Sept. 1919 report.
    Thus, Incitatus is correct in stating that Hitler urged that Jews be removed from positions of influence in German society and implemented measures toward that effect.

    The circumstances leading to the composition of this report, by Hitler, then in the German army acting in propaganda and troop education functions, and the report, are published in full here: http://germanhistorydocs.ghi-dc.org/docpage.cfm?docpage_id=4809

    A. Explanatory material:
    Hitler’s First Major Statement on Anti-Semitism: Reply to Adolf Gemlich (September 16, 1919)
    After experiencing the November Revolution and the “Councils Republic” [Räterepublik], the Bavarian Reichswehr Group Commando No. 4, which was established on May 11, 1919, decided to keep an eye on political groups and to carry out “educational work” (i.e., indoctrination) in order to combat revolutionary activities among the troops. Led by Karl Mayr, the Reichswehr’s “Information Department” (Ib/P) was commissioned for this purpose. Adolf Hitler, who had previously belonged to the demobilization unit, joined the “Information Department” as a propaganda writer and informant [Vertrauensmann], and participated in education courses organized by the department. Hitler’s contributions to group discussions caught the attention of one course lecturer, historian Karl Alexander von Müller, who knew Mayr from their school days. Müller informed Mayr of Hitler’s rhetorical gifts. Soon thereafter, Hitler was appointed as a lecturer for an educational course in Lechfeld (August 20-25, 1919). On September 4, 1919, Adolf Gemlich, a course participant, wrote a letter to Mayr and requested precise information on the government’s position on the “Jewish Question” [Judenfrage]. Mayr forwarded Gemlich’s letter to Hitler and asked him to reply. Hitler complied with the request and wrote the following response on September 16, 1919.

    B. Hitler’s Report:

    If the danger represented by the Jews today finds expression in the undeniable dislike of them felt by a large section of our people, the cause of this dislike is on the whole not to be found in the clear recognition of the corrupting activity of the Jews generally among our people, whether conscious or unconscious; it originates mainly through personal relationship, and from the impression left behind him by the individual Jew which is almost invariably unfavorable. Antisemitism thereby acquires only too easily the character of being a manifestation of emotion. But this is wrong. Antisemitism as a political movement must not be, cannot be, determined by emotional criteria, but only through the recognition of facts. The facts are as follows: First, the Jews are definitely a race and not a religious community. The Jew himself never calls himself a Jewish German, a Jewish Pole, a Jewish American, but only a German, a Polish, an American Jew. From the foreign nations in whose midst he lives the Jew has adopted very little more than their language. A German who is compelled to use French in France, Italian in Italy, Chinese in China, does not thereby become a Frenchman, an Italian, or a Chinese; similarly a Jew who happens to live among us and is thereby compelled to use the German language cannot be called a German. Even the Mosaic faith, however important for the maintenance of this race, cannot be considered as absolutely decisive in the question of whether or not someone is a Jew. There is hardly a single race whose members belong exclusively to one particular religion.

    [MORE]

    Through a thousand years of inbreeding, often practiced within a very narrow circle, the Jew has in general preserved his race and character much more rigorously than many of the peoples among whom he lives. And as a result, there is living amongst us a non-German, foreign race, unwilling and unable to sacrifice its racial characteristics, to deny its own feeling, thinking and striving, and which none the less possesses all the political rights that we ourselves have. The feelings of the Jew are concerned with purely material things; his thoughts and desires even more so. The dance round the golden calf becomes a ruthless struggle for all those goods which, according to our innermost feelings, should not be the highest and most desirable things on this earth.

    The value of the individual is no longer determined by his character, by the importance of his achievements for all, but solely by the amount of his possessions, by his money.

    The value of the nation is no longer to be measured in terms of the sum of its moral and spiritual forces, but solely on the basis of the wealth of its material goods.

    From this feeling emerges that concern and striving for money and for the power which can protect it which makes the Jew unscrupulous in his choice of means, ruthless in his use of them to achieve this aim.

    In an autocratically governed state he whines for the favor of the ‘Majesty’ of the prince and abuses it to batten on his subjects like a leech. In a democracy he courts the favor of the masses, crawls before the ‘majesty of the people’ and yet knows only the majesty of money.

    He destroys the character of the prince with byzantine flattery, and national pride, which is the strength of a nation, with mockery and shameless training in vice. His weapon is that public opinion which is never given utterance by the press, but is always led by it and falsified by it. His power is the power of money which in the form of interest effortlessly and interminably multiplies itself in his hands and forces upon nations that most dangerous of yokes, the sad consequences of which are so difficult to perceive because of the initial gleam of gold. Everything which makes men strive for higher things, whether religion, socialism or democracy, is for him only a means to an end, to the satisfaction of a lust for money and domination. His activities produce a racial tuberculosis among nations.

    And this has the following result: Antisemitism stemming from purely emotive reasons will always find its expression in the form of progroms [sic]. But antisemitism based on reason must lead to the systematic legal combating and removal of the rights of the Jew, which he alone of the foreigners living among us possesses (legislation to make them aliens). Its final aim, however, must be the uncompromising removal of the Jews altogether. Both are possible only under a government of national strength, never under a government of national impotence.

    The Republic in Germany owes its birth not to the united national will of our people but to the cunning exploitation of a series of circumstances which combined to produce a deep general discontent. But these circumstances were independent of the form of the State, and are still active today; more active, indeed, today than before. And a large section of our people is aware that no mere change in the form of the State as such can alter or improve our position, but only the rebirth of the moral and spiritual energies of the nation.

    This rebirth will be set in motion not by the political leadership of irresponsible majorities under the influence of party dogmas or of an irresponsible press, nor by catchwords and slogans of international coinage, but only through the ruthless action of personalities with a capacity for national leadership and an inner sense of responsibility.

    But this fact robs the Republic of the internal support of the spiritual forces of the nation which are so necessary. And so the present leaders of the State are compelled to seek support from those who alone benefited from the changed situation in Germany and do so now, and who for this reason have been the driving forces of the revolution, namely, the Jews. Taking no account of the Jewish peril, which has certainly been recognized by present-day leaders—proof of this is the various statements of present leading figures—they are compelled to accept the support readily offered by the Jews for their own benefit, and therefore to pay the required price. And this price consists not only in giving the Jews every possible encouragement, but above all in hampering the struggle of the duped nation against their brother Jews—in the neutralizing of the antisemitic movement.

    Source of English translation: Jeremy Noakes and Geoffrey Pridham, eds., Nazism 1919-1945, Vol. 1, The Rise to Power 1919-1934. Exeter: University of Exeter Press, 1998, pp. 12-14.

    Source of original German text: “Hitler an Gemlich. München, 16. September 1919, ” HStA München. Abt. II. Gruppen Kdo. 4. Bd. 50/8. Abschrift; reprinted in Ernst Deuerlein, “Hitlers Eintritt in die Politik und die Reichswehr,” Vierteljahrshefte für Zeitgeschichte, 7. Jahrgang, 2.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @SolontoCroesus
  321. @L.K

    Thanks L.K. No, this is my primary haunt.

  322. Wally says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    SC, on your citation:

    “Source of English translation: Jeremy Noakes and Geoffrey Pridham, eds., Nazism 1919-1945, Vol. 1, The Rise to Power 1919-1934. Exeter: University of Exeter Press, 1998, pp. 12-14.”

    Does Noakes include the actual & original Hitler document in the book that is cited? Not just his “translation”.
    As we see constantly, ‘translations’ related to NS Germany can be quite inaccurate, intentionally so.

    Thanks.

    http://www.codoh.com

  323. Incitatus says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    “involuntary assisted suicide”

    How can “suicide” be “involuntary”? Isn’t suicide defined as ‘voluntary’? Choice of the individual? What’s the difference between “involuntary suicide” and murder? Help us out.

    Aktion T4 was involuntary euthanasia, not “suicide”. The state, without public legal process, chose victims and murdered them, concealing it with obviously phony causes on death certificates. Families of victims caught on when mutual acquaintances reportedly died of the same “illness” at exactly the same time, date, and place. None of the victims had symptoms or histories of said fatal “illness”. ‘Where’s Hans? He didn’t come down for breakfast’. ‘That’s strange, Gretel missed it too’. Und so weiter.

    “The fact is, involuntary assisted suicide is a reality in the “progressive” EU”

    Please define “involuntary assisted suicide” and specify each sponsoring country.

    “at some point a particular life becomes a burden to both individual and society”

    Who decides? A politician? An unelected state flunky? You?

    “The phony howling over what may have happened in Germany 80 years ago is just so much posturing.”

    The biggest howlers were German families led by Bishop Clemens August Graf von Galen, who largely stopped the program. Are you saying they – good Germans – had no right to protest? Should have given the Hitlergruß as relatives were injected or gassed?

    “There is much dishonesty and stupidity here from the usual suspects”

    You got that right, BM! Put another turd on your cluster.

  324. @SolontoCroesus

    This appears immediately below citation of the source of translation:

    Source of original German text: “Hitler an Gemlich. München, 16. September 1919, ” HStA München. Abt. II. Gruppen Kdo. 4. Bd. 50/8. Abschrift; reprinted in Ernst Deuerlein, “Hitlers Eintritt in die Politik und die Reichswehr,” Vierteljahrshefte für Zeitgeschichte, 7. Jahrgang, 2.

    • Replies: @Wally
  325. @Incitatus

    Read the article I linked to, you dishonest idiot. It’s clear I made no judgment on euthanasia as such, only that it takes a complete charlatan to pretend that it’s a unique example of Nazi iniquity. The topic of euthanasia is a sideshow here, and you know it.

    BTW, this seems to be your latest obsession (you’re carrying on about it on another thread). Tell us why this topic is relevant to anything, since you’re so consumed by it.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Incitatus
  326. Wally says:
    @Incitatus

    said:
    “Aktion T4 was involuntary euthanasia, not “suicide”. The state, without public legal process, chose victims and murdered them, concealing it with obviously phony causes on death certificates.”

    More childish lies. I have repeatedly challenged you to show proof of such claims.
    Heretofore you have failed miserably. You merely make empty claims.
    But then Zionists are not known to be truthful.

    And why do Jews have such a fascination with poo poo & pee pee references as the kind that you always make?

    Imagine in a real / legit court of law where someone claims that millions of people were murdered and dumped into mass graves, but then could not produce the claimed mass graves and the alleged contents. They would be laughed out of that court.

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Momus
  327. Wally says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    But I asked about the authentic & original of the claimed ‘document’.
    Is it included in Noakes book?
    If not, why not?

    Regards.

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  328. Wally says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    said:
    “BTW, this seems to be your latest obsession (you’re carrying on about it on another thread). Tell us why this topic is relevant to anything, since you’re so consumed by it.”

    Because he clearly cannot prove his impossible ’6M Jews’ silliness and somehow thinks that citing a lie about the German euthanasia program is a backdoor.

    He goes from one debunked absurdity to another. That’s the Zionist way.

    http://www.codoh.com

  329. @Wally

    Wally, I don’t read any language other than English.
    I don’t know that there is a protocol to include the original text in a book that contains the translation.

    I understand your skepticism — most of what is shoved down our throats re Hitler, Germany in the wars, etc. is so debauched that the only reasonable approach is to Doubt Everything.

    Nevertheless, since the author did display a source for the original and for the translation, I assumed the author was acting in good faith, since any skeptical reader could readily cross-check the documents.

    Maybe I am gullible; it’s happened before. But I took the author at his word that the translation was legitimate.

    • Replies: @Wally
  330. Momus says:
    @Wally

    Imagine in a real / legit court of law where someone claims that millions of people were murdered and dumped into mass graves, but then could not produce the claimed mass graves and the alleged contents. They would be laughed out of that court.

    Not necessarily as you well know from the Mermelstein case and the principal of Judicial Notice.

    Knowledge of the massive scale of holocaust gassings and other murders by the Nazis are so well accepted because mountains of documentary, photographic, physical, eyewitness, admission under oath and anecdotal evidence cross the world attest to them so that there admission as evidence requires no further proof.

    • Replies: @Wally
  331. Incitatus says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    “Read the article I linked to, you dishonest idiot. It’s clear I made no judgment on euthanasia as such, only that it takes a complete charlatan to pretend that it’s a unique example of Nazi iniquity.”

    Your original post (320):

    “There is much dishonesty and stupidity here from the usual suspects. The fact is, involuntary assisted suicide is a reality in the “progressive” EU…”

    My original response (330): How can “suicide” be “involuntary”? Isn’t ‘suicide’ defined as ‘voluntary’? Choice of the individual? What’s the difference between “involuntary suicide” and murder? Help us out.

    Well?

    “…it takes a complete charlatan to pretend that it’s a unique example of Nazi iniquity.”

    Have I said such? Please give exact quotes.

    In fact, there were quite a few other examples of “Nazi iniquity”. Operation Hummingbird, for example. Chancellor Schleicher and his wife shot dead in their foyer. Herbert von Bose, Generalmajor Ferdinand von Bredow, Fritz Gerlich, Edgar Julius Jung, Erich Klausener, Adalbert Probst, and dozens of others murdered without trial. In addition to loyal SA like Röhm. I asked Wally, but he snarled “it was / is common practice everywhere to execute traitors” and (as always) changed the subject.

    How about the assassination of Austrian Chancellor Engelbert Dollfuss in ’34? Maltreating, threatening and inducing a heart attack in sixty-seven year old president Hácha to force surrender of rump Czechoslovakia in ‘39?

    “The topic of euthanasia is a sideshow here, and you know it.”

    The right of the state to take life without public legal notice is a “sideshow”? In a way you’re right. Center-stage is how eager you are to equivocate or excuse crimes even Third Reich Germans wouldn’t abide. You know better?

    “dishonest idiot…charlatan…dishonesty…stupidity…phony howling…posturing…”

    Don’t blame you for getting excited. Sovereign individual rights threaten you, don’t they? Ein Reich, Ein Volk, Ein Führer! Let the Führer do all the thinking, make all the decisions. Whatever you do, don’t become sick, crippled or infirm. Why did ordinary Germans object? Tell us, mighty BM.

    “BTW, this seems to be your latest obsession…”

    Questions you can’t answer are your interlocutor’s obsession?

  332. Incitatus says:
    @Wally

    “So corporal Hitler was “writing on behalf of the army”. LOL”

    Hitler was a gefreiter (PFC), not a corporal; not entitled to command other men.

    “I ‘never acknowledged you primary sources’ because you never gave them. LOL”

    Given many times. Check the archive.

    No offense, Wally, but you’re a boring waste of time.

    • Replies: @Wally
  333. Mulegino1 says:
    @Incitatus

    Archbishop Von Galen did indeed protest

    Archbishop Von Galen and most of the Catholic and Lutheran hierarchies did indeed publicly protest the euthanasia program, and these protests were largely responsible for ending the program. Yet Hitler’s government took no action against these clergymen; it stands to reason that if there indeed was an “industrial scale genocide against the Jews” going on in the camps, Von Galen would have spoken out against it- and specified what was happening. The Vatican would have known about it as well, and Pius XII would certainly have condemned it publicly. He obviously knew that the going had become rough for the Jews in German custody, and saved most of the Roman Jews from deportation , but not from physical murder.

    The Total/Final Solution to the Jewish problem/question was conceived and planned as the removal of the Jews from Germany and later out of Europe. This is made clear by the Luther Memorandum of the German Foreign Ministry (August, 1942) which states unequivocally: “…after the war, the Jews will have to leave Europe. This is the unalterable decision of the Fuehrer.” The policy of ultimate removal and resettlement elsewhere was never deviated from, although it was interrupted by the war- a war which was forced upon Germany by the absolute cynical British War Party, elements of the FDR administration, and organized international Jewry. The latter’s constant lobbying and demand for war against Germany and its destruction rendered most of the Jews in the German sphere the status of enemy alien. In the US, Japanese citizens on the West Coast were also interned in concentration camps and, in many cases, expropriated, even though they were far less of a danger than the Jews in the German sphere of influence, particularly after the commencement of Operation Barbarossa.
    There were no homicidal gas chambers in the German camps.

    The real crimes of the largely Jew dominated Soviet Union, and the Anglo-Americans dwarf anything realistically imputed to the Third Reich. Just in and of itself the deliberate mass murder inflicted upon the German (and other Europeans) through the British initiated area bombing of civilian targets- a practice later adopted by the USAAF- constituted the greatest mass murder in all of recent history. Then there are the horrendous mass rape -largely committed by the rear echelons -as the Soviet Army advanced westward. There is also the barbaric mass rape of the women in the villages surrounding Monte Cassino by the Free French Somalis under General Juin- who gave them carte blanche to carry out these rapes. Then there is the barbaric destruction of the Abby itself, one of the birthplaces of European Christendom, which served no purpose, since the German positions were on the hills surrounding Cassino, not occupying the abby itself. Then there is the horrendous incendiary bombing of Dresden- a town flooded with refugees fleeing the Red Army.

    Hitler’s harsh response to the Roehm Putsch was a necessary move. When Hitler gained the Chancellorship, Germany was literally starving to death, hopelessly indebted, and in the throes of almost absolute despair. Weimar Berlin had become the white slavery capital of Europe, where women sold themselves for a crust of bread, and often their daughters as well. Suicide rates had skyrocketed- and almost as soon as Hitler assumed power- powerful organized Jewry declared an economic boycott on Germany- “Judea Declares War on Germany!”

    Had the Leftist cabal of the SA in cahoots with the reactionaries , a civil war would have ensued and most likely the Communists would have gained power. Hitler was apparently not harsh enough- he was surrounded by traitors on all sides, as is evinced by the numerous plots to assassinate him- including the bomb placed by the traitor Von Stauffenberg in June of 1944. Of course, Von Stauffenberg is portrayed as a hero by Hollywood, but how do most people react to an attempted assassination of their leader during wartime?

  334. @Renoman

    [It's very bad practice to post the same duplicate comment on numerous different threads. Change your behavior or all your future comments will be trashed.]

    Highly unlikely given their world control of critical infrastructure and trillion dollar high technology military and ZOG in the US. And…central role in Belt and Road Initiative with China.

    ISRAELS SECRET WEAPON THE TALPIOT PROGRAM
    Israel’s complete domination of the high technology sector and how it makes Israel a world power.

    ISRAELI DRONES WORLD WIDE
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    THE TIMES OF ISRAEL – CHINA ISRAEL HIGH TECH CO-OPERATION

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/topic/china-israel-technology/#

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  335. Wally says:
    @Incitatus

    I checked and sure enough, as I said repeatedly, you never listed primary sources.
    In fact, it was determined that you do not know what a primary source is.

    BTW, a gefreiter = a lance corporal
    Oops! You lose again.

    Right, I’m a “waste of time” that owns you and that you obsess over…. in spite of you losing every battle.

    If Jews were really smart they would have conjured up a better, more believable story than their impossibly fake & stupid ’6,000,000 & gas chambers’.

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  336. Wally says:
    @Momus

    Per Mermelstein, you left something out:

    Final Victory in the Mermelstein Case
    IHR Prevails in Eleven-Year-Old Legal Battle

    https://codoh.com/library/document/2402/?lang=en.

    Oops! Hilarious.

    laughably said:
    “Knowledge of the massive scale of holocaust gassings and other murders by the Nazis are so well accepted because mountains of documentary, photographic, physical, eyewitness, admission under oath and anecdotal evidence cross the world attest to them so that there admission as evidence requires no further proof.”

    Really? Such as?
    Is that why you cannot produce this phantom ‘proof’? LOL

    You’re all talk.

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com

  337. Sam Shama says:
    @Wally

    When one sees an excess of “LOL”s scattering a post, one knows it to be the dead giveaway of a poster who has exhausted their limits, and for whom only tinny laughter remains. But your limit never extends beyond polluting every page with codoh waste matter; still, it was gratifying to see the pathetic Nazi whinging given a conclusive hanging, drawing and quartering.

    The far greater benefit, of course, accrues to the normal reader, who will find these pages sanitised by Incitatus’ methodical and erudite approach.

    Nevertheless, Wally, there was in Incitatus’ post, a little gem of an advice for you to heed: try not to light a cigarette when you come back to re-post. At least tell Broom Hilde to stay her distance, won’t you?

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  338. Mulegino1 says:
    @Mulegino1

    I.E., “Had the leftist cabal in the SA in cahoots with the reactionaries succeeded in overthrowing Hitler’s government…

  339. Wally says: • Website
    @SolontoCroesus

    said:
    “Maybe I am gullible; it’s happened before. But I took the author at his word that the translation was legitimate.”
    A big mistake.
    Noakes is an author who directly profits from the scam of ’6M & gas chambers”, which he states that he believes in yet can produce no proof. He is not an unbiased scholar at all.
    Claiming various documents and then not be able to produce them is a big part of the Industry’s game. They count on no one challenging their lies.

    At Nuremberg alone the ‘document’ manipulation was simply massive, excerpt from:
    Not Guilty at Nuremberg by Carlos Porter

    http://www.cwporter.com/innocent.htm

    [MORE]

    The documents used in evidence at Nuremberg consisted largely of “photocopies” of “copies”. Many of these original documents were written entirely on plain paper without handwritten markings of any kind, by unknown persons. Occasionally, there is an illegible initial or signature of a more or less unknown person certifying the document as a ‘true copy’.
    Sometimes there are German stamps, sometimes not. Many have been ‘found’ by the Russians, or ‘certified authentic’ by Soviet War Crimes Commissions.

    Volume XXXIII, a document volume taken at random, contains 20 interrogations or affidavits, 12 photocopies, 5 unsigned copies, 5 original documents with signatures, 4 copies of printed material, 3 mimeographed copies, 3 teletypes, 1 microfilmm copy, 1 copy signed by somebody else and 1 unspecified.

    The Hague has few, if any, original documents. The Hague has many original post-war ‘affidavits’, or sworn statements, the Tribunal Commission transcripts, and much valuable defense material.
    They have the ‘human soap’, which has never been tested, and the ‘original human soap recipe’ (Document USSR-196), which is a forgery; but apparently no original wartime German documents.
    The Hague has negative photostats of these documents, on extremely brittle paper which has been stapled. To photocopy the photostats, the staples are removed. When they are re-stapled more holes are made. Most of these documents have not been photocopied very often, and officials at the Hague say it is very unusual for anyone to ask to see them.

    The National Archives in Washington (see Telford Taylor’s Use of Captured German and Related Documents, A National Archive Conference) claim that the original documents are in The Hague. The Hague claims the original documents are in the National Archives.

    The Stadtarchiv Nürnberg and the Bundesarchiv Koblenz also have no original documents, and both say the original documents are in Washington.
    Since the originals are, in most cases, ‘copies’, there is often no proof that the documents in question ever existed.

    Robert Jackson got the trial off to a start by quoting the following forged or otherwise worthless documents: 1947-PS; 1721-PS; 1014-PS; 81-PS; 212-PS; and many others (II 120-142 [141-168]).

    1947-PS is a ‘copy’ of a ‘translation’ of a letter from General Fritsch to the Baroness von Schutzbar-Milchling. The Baroness later signed an affidavit stating that she never received the letter in question (XXI 381 [420-421]).

    The falsified ‘letter’ from General Fritsch to the Baroness von Schutzbar-Milchling was recognized as such during the trial and is not included in the document volumes, where it should appear at XXVIII 44. Jackson was not, however, admonished by the Tribunal (XXI 380[420]).

    The enthusiastic Americans apparently forged 15 of these ‘translations’, after which the original documents all disappeared (See Taylor, Captured Documents).

    1721-PS is a forgery in which an SA man writes a report to himself about how he is carrying out an order which is quoted verbatim in the report. Handwritten markings on pages 2 and 3 are obvious imitations of handwritten markings on page 1 (XXI 137-141[157-161]; 195-198 [219-224]; 425 [470];XXII 147-150 [169-172]. See also Testimony Before the Commission, Fuss, 25 April, and Lucke, 7 May 1946). The National Archives have a positive photostat of 1721-PS, and The Hague has a negative photostat. The ‘original’ is a photocopy (XXVII 485).

    1014-PS is a falsified ‘Hitler Speech’ written on plain paper by an unknown person. The document bears the heading ‘Second Speech’ although it is known that Hitler gave only one speech on that date. There are four versions of this speech, 3 of them forgeries: 1014-PS, 798-PS, L-3, and an authentic version, Ra-27 (XVII 406-408[445-447]; XVIII 390-402 [426-439].

    The third forgery, Document L-3, bears an FBI laboratory stamp and was never even accepted into evidence (II 286 [320-321]), but 250 copies of it were given to the press as authentic (II 286-293 [320-328]).

    This document is quoted by A.J.P. Taylor on page 254 of The Origins of the Second World War (Fawcett Paperbacks, 2nd Edition, with Answer to his Critics) giving his source as German Foreign Policy, Series D vii, No 192 and 193.

    L-3 is the source of many statements attributed to Hitler, particularly “who today remembers the fate of the Armenians?” and “our enemies are little worms, I saw them at Munich”. ‘Hitler’ also compares himself to Genghis Khan and says he will exterminate the Poles, and kick Chamberlain in the groin in front of the photographers. The document appears to have been prepared on the same typewriter as many other Nuremberg documents, including the two other versions of the same speech. This typewriter was probably a Martin from the Triumph-Adler-Werke, Nuremberg.

    81-PS is a ‘certified true copy’ of an unsigned letter on plain paper prepared by an unknown person. If authentic, it is the first draft of a letter never sent. This is invariably spoken of as a letter written by Rosenberg, which Rosenberg denied (XI 510-511 [560-561]). The document lacks signature, initial, blank journal number (a bureaucratic marking) and was not found among the papers of the person to whom it was addressed (XVII 612 [664]). 81-PS is a ‘photocopy’ with a Soviet exhibit number (USSR-353, XXV 156-161).

    212-PS was also prepared by an unknown person, entirely on plain paper, without any handwritten markings, date, address, or stamp (III 540 [602], XXV 302-306; see also photocopies of negative photostats from The Hague).

    This is, unfortunately, only typical. Document 386-PS, the ‘Hossbach Protokoll’, Hitler’s supposed speech of 5 November 1938, is a certified photocopy of a microfilm copy of a re-typed ‘certified true copy’ prepared by an American, of a re-typed ‘certified true copy’ prepared by a German, of unauthenticated handwritten notes by Hossbach, of a speech by Hitler, written from memory 5 days later. This is not the worst document, but one of the best, because we know who made one of the copies. The text of 386-PS has been ‘edited’ (XLII 228-230).

    Thus ‘trial by document’ works as follows: A, an unknown person, listens to alleged ‘oral statements’ made by B, and takes notes or prepares a document on the basis of those alleged oral statements. The document is then introduced into evidence, not against A, who made the copy, but against B, C, D, E and a host of other people, although there is nothing to connect them with the document or the alleged statements. It is casually stated as fact that ‘B said’, or that ‘C did’, or that ‘D and E knew’. This is contrary to the rules of evidence of all civilised countries. Nor are the documents identified by witnesses.

    The forgery of original documents was rarely resorted to at Nuremberg, because the documents were not brought to court. The “original document” – that is, the original unsigned “copy” – was kept in a safe in the Document Centre (II 195 [224], 256-258 [289-292]).

    Then, 2 “photocopies” of the “copy” (V 21[29]) or 6 photocopies (II 251-253 [284-286]) were prepared and brought to court. All other copies were re-typed on a mimeograph using a stencil (IX 504 [558-559]).

    In the transcript, the word “original” is used to mean “photocopy” (II 249-250 [283-284]; XIII 200 [223], 508 [560], 519 [573], XV 43 [53], 169 [189] 171 [191] 327 [359]), to distinguish the photocopies from the mimeograph copies (IV 245-246 [273-274]).

    “Translations” of all documents were available from the beginning of the trial (II 159-160[187-189], 191 [219-220], 195 [224], 215 [245], 249-250 [282-283], 277 [312], 415 [458], 437 [482-483]), but the “original” German texts were not available until at least two months later. This applies not just to the trial briefs and indictment, etc. but to ALL DOCUMENTS.

    The defense received no documents in German until after January 9, 1946 (V 22-26 [31-35]).

    Documents which appear to have been prepared on the same typewriter include Document 3803-PS, a letter from Kaltenbrunner to the Mayor of Vienna, and the cover letter from this same Mayor sending Kaltenbrunner’s letter to the Tribunal (XI 345-348 [381-385]). This letter from Kaltenbrunner contains a false geographical term (XIV 416 [458]).

  340. Anon[121] • Disclaimer says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Supposedly a consortium of Jews rushed 3 million dollars into Truman’s campaign for President in the last few weeks and that money enabled him to win. That was the bribe.

  341. Bliss says:
    @Wally

    There is no proof that Hitler ‘intended to kill or enslave all slavs’.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost

    The Generalplan Ost (German pronunciation: [ɡenəˈʁaːlˌplaːn ˈɔst]; English: Master Plan for the East), abbreviated GPO, was the German government’s plan for the genocide and ethnic cleansing on a vast scale, and colonization of Central and Eastern Europe by Germans. It was to be undertaken in territories occupied by Germany during World War II. The plan was partially realized during the war, resulting indirectly and directly in a very large number of deaths, but its full implementation was not considered practicable during the major military operations, and was prevented by Germany’s defeat.

    The plan entailed the enslavement, expulsion, and mass murder of most Slavic peoples (and substantial parts of the Baltic peoples, especially Lithuanians and Latgalians[3]) in Europe along with planned destruction of their nations, whom the ‘Aryan’ Nazis viewed as racially inferior.[4] The programme operational guidelines were based on the policy of Lebensraum designed by Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party in fulfilment of the Drang nach Osten (drive to the East) ideology of German expansionism. As such, it was intended to be a part of the New Order in Europe.

    Percentages of ethnic groups to be destroyed and/or deported to Siberia by Nazi Germany from future settlement areas.[15][16][3]

    Ethnic group / Nationality Population percent subject to removal
    Russians[17][16] 50–60% to be physically eliminated and another 15% to be sent to Western Siberia
    Estonians[3][18] almost 50%
    Latvians[3] 50%
    Czechs[16] 50%
    Ukrainians[16] 65%
    Belarusians[16] 75%
    Poles[16] 20 million, or 80–85%
    Lithuanians[3] 85%

    Latgalians[3] 100%

  342. Incitatus says:
    @Sam Shama

    Hi Sam,

    Wally should star as Gregory Anton the TV series ‘Gaslight’. Each week he could return to tell the same old lies, denials and new nightmares. Who knows? Maybe he’d become as famous as Charles Boyer in the screen role!

    Mrs. Wally – assuming she passes audition – could make it a family affair, clothed full in armor and horned helmet. If as beautiful as Ingrid Bergman, I’d certainly be a faithful viewer. She could take codoh where it’s never been!

    [No need to thank me Wally]

  343. Incitatus says:
    @Wally

    “I checked and sure enough, as I said repeatedly, you never listed primary sources. In fact, it was determined that you do not know what a primary source is.”

    Is Speer a primary source? Archive R 179 of the Chancellery of the Führer Main Office? ‘Mein Kampf’? The Führer’s speeches?

    Here’s news for you: Ernie Zündel (born 1939) isn’t a primary source, unless he writes ‘The Führer I loved Up to Age Six and Why’.

    “BTW, a gefreiter = a lance corporal”

    Lance Corporal is typically the lowest NCO, responsible for privates. Gefreiters in Bavarian regiments had no command responsibility. They were not empowered to issue orders to anyone. Gefreiter Hitler couldn’t issue orders to anyone.

    “Oops! You lose again…in spite of you losing every battle”

    Turning up the gaslight, Wally?

    • Replies: @Wally
  344. @Bliss

    From your source:

    “Nearly all the wartime documentation on Generalplan Ost was deliberately destroyed shortly before Germany’s defeat in May 1945,[7][8] and the full proposal has never been found, though several documents refer to it or supplement it.”

    How convenient.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  345. @Incitatus

    You can nitpick about terminology all you want, but the fact remains that there was nothing particularly radical about the Nazi euthanasia program, then or now. (To be clear, given your dishonesty, that in no way constitutes an endorsement or approval.) As with the mass shootings on the Eastern Front, the numbers killed are doubtless exaggerated, and you’ve only provided summaries of official documents.

    https://erlc.com/resource-library/articles/5-facts-about-euthanasia-in-europe

    You are simply engaged in Brown-baiting here.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  346. @Mulegino1

    Excellent comment as usual. I might add, the gangsteristic aspects of the SA purge aside, it was microscopic in comparison to Stalin’s purges (admittedly directed in large part against an essentially Jewish mafia).

    • Replies: @Anon
  347. I have very serious doubts that the death toll from the SA purge measures up to the “suicides” racked up by the former comrades of the Clinton and Bush crime families. (Not to mention the millions killed by their unquestionably aggressive wars.)

  348. Wally says:
    @Incitatus

    A primary source would be the documents that Speer claimed to be quoting. Which I asked for and you cannot produce. LOL

    Which ‘version of MK? Which ‘translation’, by who? I rather seriously doubt that Hitler could have done much when writing MK, he was, after all, in jail. LOL
    And didn’t Khrushchev say that he would ‘bury the US’?

    Your alleged archive reference does not mean that what’s in the archive says what you claim.
    A primary source would be actual document. Keep working on it though.

    So now you fall at my feet and accept the fact that corporal Hitler, who you previously said was not a corporal … LOL, could not have done what you previously alleged.
    You are laughably confused, can’t even keep your stories straight. LOL
    But that has always been problem with Zionists. Recall their absurd ‘holocaust’ nonsense.

    Incitatus, we realize you try your best, but you simply make no sense, you laughably go around in circles, and contradict yourself with each post. The guys here are simply taking your lunch. LOL

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here: http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  349. Wally says:
    @Bliss

    Laughable Zionist controlled Wikipedia? Seriously? LOL

    It’s amazing why anyone would cite Wikipedia as a reference for anything which Jews have a special interest in promoting. It’s rather like asking the wolf to guard the chicken coop.

    How Israel and Its Partisans Work to Censor the Internet

    http://www.unz.com/article/how-israel-and-its-partisans-work-to-censor-the-internet/?highlight=wikipedia

    Zionist Wikipedia Editing Course

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/139189

    Notice that you will never see any proof of those numbers, just Zionist assertions and self serving propaganda.

    You’re talking about an alleged ’6M Jews & 5M others’ … 11,000,000.
    Yet there is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claims of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, 1,250,000 at Auschwitz, or 250,000 at Sobibor, or even yhe 35,000 alleged at Babi Yar) even though Jews claim they still exist and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.

    And please tell us how the alleged ‘gas chambers’ worked.

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Momus
    , @Anon
  350. @Beefcake the Mighty

    “Nearly all the wartime documentation on Generalplan Ost was deliberately destroyed shortly before Germany’s defeat in May 1945,[7][8]“

    1. If so, how do we know about GeneralPlan Ost?

    2. Was the “destruction of the documentation” witnessed by someone who has certified that the documents were destroyed?

    3. Who destroyed the documents and with what purpose or motive? Edit: Looks like Wally has covered this, above.

    4. Yad Vashem website posts a page discussing Generalplan Ost. Wonder where YV got its information. http://www.yadvashem.org/odot_pdf/Microsoft%20Word%20-%206247.pdf

    5. The World Future Fund posts an extensive analysis, with links to documents, of Generalplan Ost. http://www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/GPO/Generalplanostnew.htm The wikipedia post on Generalplan Ost makes reference to the WFF material.

    6. The quote from wikipedia includes footnote references that are sources for the assertion that “documentation was destroyed” –

    ^ [7]Jump up to: a b Schmuhl, Hans-Walter (2008). The Kaiser Wilhelm Institute for Anthropology, Human Heredity, and Eugenics, 1927–1945. Crossing boundaries. Boston Studies in the Philosophy and History of Science. 259. Springer Netherlands. pp. 348–9. ISBN 978-90-481-7678-6.
    [8] Jump up ^ Poprzeczny, Joseph (2004). Odilo Globocnik, Hitler’s Man in the East. McFarland. p. 186. ISBN 0-7864-1625-4.

    The first pages of the book on Globocnik ( fn 8) can be read on Amazon. One of the most notable characteristics of those pages is the large number of contingency statements; for example:

    If . . .Stalin’s Red Army . . . had been defeated . . . Globocnik would have been ideally placed to be in charge of ethnic cleansing not only of all of Poland but the entire European or Western segment of Stalin’s Soviet Union . . .”

    But it wasn’t so he wasn’t so it wasn’t.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  351. @SolontoCroesus

    Yes, Generalplan Ost is an all-purpose boogeyman used to invoke, at a minimum, grand designs for Nazi world domination and more often an attempt by Slavs to get in on the Holocaust victims sweepstakes (funny how that one never gains any traction, no?).

    There’s no doubt that the Germans drew up contingency plans for exploiting Soviet territories after the war, but this is a very far cry from an “extermination plan” (which is not to imply that they had much regard for the Slavic populations under their control, but it’s not like the Soviets authorities did either).

  352. Momus says:
    @Wally

    Some of the concentration camp gas murdering was done by the Nazis in the following way:

    A large, almost always petrol spark ignition, engine was installed on the floor of a building and connected to an adjacent sealed room (the gas chamber) through metal pipes running to ducts in the roof or walls.

    The victims were moved into the gas chamber, the room sealed and the gas engine started and run until the murder was completed. There is plenty of testimony on this judicial notice and on the mobile vans made from converted petrol trucks.

    Archive/File: holocaust/poland/reinhard/sobibor fuchs.t01
    Last-Modified: 1994/07/19

    Testimony of SS Scharfuhrer Erich Fuchs, in the Sobibor-Bolender trial,
    Dusseldorf:

    [MORE]

    (Quoted in “BELZEC, SOBIBOR, TREBLINKA – the Operation Reinhard
    Death Camps”, Indiana University Press – Yitzhak Arad, 1987, p. 31-32).

    …..We unloaded the motor. It was a heavy Russian benzine
    engine, at least 200 horsepower. we installed the engine
    on a concrete foundation and set up the connection between the
    exhaust and the tube.

    I then tested the motor. It did not work. I was able to repair
    the ignition and the valves, and the motor finally started
    running. The chemist, who I knew from Belzec, entered the gas
    chamber with measuring instruments to test the concentration
    of the gas.

    Following this, as gassing experiment was carried out.
    If my memory serves me right, about thirty to forty women were
    gassed in one gas chamber. The Jewish women were forced to undress
    in an open place close to the gas chamber, and were driven into
    the gas chamber by the above mentioned SS members and the Ukrainian
    auxiliaries. when the women were shut up in the gas chamber I and
    Bolender set the motor in motion. The motor functioned first in neutral.
    Both of us stood by the motor and switched from “Neutral” (Freiauspuff)
    to “Cell” (Zelle), so that the gas was conveyed to the chamber. At the
    suggestion of the chemist, I fixed the motor on a definite speed so
    that it was unnecessary henceforth to press on the gas. About ten
    minutes later the thirty to forty women were dead.

  353. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wally

    I’ve noticed Wikipedia is a favorite citation for Unz old codgers.

    • Replies: @Wally
  354. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Momus

    Momus

    Can you please explain to us exactly what is the justification for the Jews trying to sue the present government of Poland for 300 billion USD because the Polish government lost to a German invasion in 1939?

    Only tort and cause of action I can think of would be failure to protect and a newly created type of negligence.

    • Replies: @Momus
    , @Josecanuc
  355. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    Reason Stalin executed so many Jews in his purge of communist officials is that Jews were way over represented.

    If all the drivers and other big city transit agency employees were arrrsted and executed most would be black wouldn’t they ; because blacks are way over represented as big city transit workers.

    Same thing whether Stalin targeted just Jews or communist officials in general, Jews would be way over represented.

  356. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bliss

    Excuse me Bliss

    You’re way behind on Jewish propaganda. Jew propaganda has scrapped the Ost plan and purged it.
    The very latest news from Jew propaganda central is that there was no
    Ost plan at all.

    You see, the Poles and the Germans got together in the summer of 1939 and formed a coalition to kill all the polish Jews but not KIll or inconvenience one Polish goy.

    The Germans really didn’t occupy Poland you see. It was actually only ethnic Catholic Poles who planned. arranged and carried out the extermination of Polish Jews, including using Jewish babies as soccer balls.

    Because of the failure to protect Polish Jews during the war all Poles must pay reparations to Israel forever and ever amen
    Really, you’ve failed in your duty as a Jew by not keeping up with the latest twists turns and lying propaganda.

    Germans have been exonerated. This year only Poles are to blame.

  357. @Momus

    Ironic post, although I’m guessing that’s not the effect you were going for.

  358. Momus says:
    @Anon

    Momus

    Can you please explain to us exactly what is the justification for the Jews trying to sue the present government of Poland for 300 billion USD because blah blah blah

    No.

  359. Incitatus says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    “You can nitpick about terminology all you want,”

    I asked for honest clarification on your term “involuntary assisted suicide”. It’s internally contradictory. An apparent oxymoron. But maybe you know better? It’s not nitpicking. The difference between ‘[in]voluntary assisted suicide’ and Aktion T4 ‘involuntary euthanasia’ is critical. It’s simple. Who makes the decision? The individual with legal protections, or the state randomly without public legal due-process?

    “the fact remains that there was nothing particularly radical about the Nazi euthanasia program, then or now.”

    Galen, his flock, and many other good Germans disagreed. They risked their necks. Why do you defend what they found morally intolerable?

    “As with the mass shootings on the Eastern Front, the numbers killed are doubtless exaggerated, and you’ve only provided summaries of official documents…”

    The 200,000 number – said many times – is from Archive R 179 of the Chancellery of the Führer Main Office. It may be exaggerated. It’s not unknown for government flunkies to inflate their record. In this case Nazis puffing up their kill quotient. A raise and medal from the Führer? Add some numbers to the list!

    On the other hand, Hitler loved precision. Hard to believe that kind of nonsense was allowed.

    BTW the 200k figure is Germans only. An additional 100k is thought to have been snuffed in occupied nations [‘Euthanasie im Dritten Reich’, Bundesarchiv; ‘Quellen zur Geschichte der “Euthanasie”-Verbrechen 1939-1945 in deutschen und österreichischen Archiven, Bundesarchiv].

    “You are simply engaged in Brown-baiting here.”

    How does Wally put it? “No name calling, level playing field debate”?

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  360. Incitatus says:
    @Wally

    “A primary source would be the documents that Speer claimed to be quoting. Which I asked for and you cannot produce. LOL”

    Said twice before: Speer quoted Hitler. The big Kahuna. Mr. Big. Lips of the golden Austrian himself. As said before, take it up with Al and Dolf in séance (ask for Eva to explain what her husband – half head missing – is muttering). Post it on codoh, let us all take a look.

    “Which ‘version of MK? Which ‘translation’, by who…”

    Are you saying there’s a conspiracy amidst ‘Mein Kampf’ translators? Hot stuff!

    Did Dolf nod what’s remaining of his head in séance to indicate same? Signal affirmative on his wheelchair bell like Hector Salamanca in ‘Breaking Bad’? Enquiring minds want to know.

    “I rather seriously doubt that Hitler could have done much when writing MK, he was, after all, in jail. LOL”

    What “much” did you have in mind? Table tennis with Rudolf Hess? Lederhosen lessons? Aerobics with visitor Winifred (née Williams) Wagner? Let us know.

    Yes, prison life imposes great burdens. If really unlucky, you may actually have to instruct sycophants and suck-ups to do your bidding. God (Wötan) forbid! Rudolf Hess never seemed to recover. Of course putsch-mate Ludendorff (never indicted) didn’t face the same trials. Why Wally? Isn’t that the real question?

    Don’t worry. The local Mercedes dealer gave Dolf a car on (years early) exit – he cooperated for a photograph. Ah, what heavy prison burdens, eh Wally?

    • Replies: @Wally
  361. Wally says:
    @Anon

    Indeed, Wikipedia spoon feeds them the lies that they are looking for.

    http://www.codoh.com

  362. Josecanuc says:
    @Anon

    

    “There are some people that if they don’t know, you can’t tell ‘em.” Louis Armstrong

    • Replies: @Anon
  363. Wally says:
    @Momus

    Jheesh, how embarrassing, Erich Fuchs at Sobibor by Arad? Really?
    BTW, it’s Reinhardt, not Reinhard.

    [MORE]

    Your entire fake story is demolished repeatedly here:
    The Alleged First Gas Chamber Building at Sobibór

    https://codoh.com/library/document/654/?lang=en

    and:
    The “Nazi Extermination Camp” of Sobibor in the Context of the Demjanjuk Case

    https://codoh.com/library/document/1908/?lang=en

    and:
    Sobibor Strangeness

    https://codoh.com/library/document/644/?lang=en

    and:
    Witness Accounts By Former Sobibor Prisoners, Part 1

    https://codoh.com/library/document/647/?lang=en

    another must read here:
    attempted switch from alleged diesel ‘gassings’ to gasoline

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=53

    As if the Germans would have had excess fuel, when a readily available bullet would have done the job. LOL
    So then. Momus where are the claimed human remains from these laughable diesel / gasoline ‘gas chambers’? After all, at your site Sobibor it’s claimed that 250,00 jew remains are buried there, yet we see nothing.
    At Reinhardt camp Treblinka it’s claimed that 900,000 jew are buried there, yet we see nothing.
    We also note that the verbatim text to the trial you cited is curiously not available. Nor is any cross examination text. Oops.

    ‘Once they lie, they must continue to lie’.
    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Momus
  364. Wally says:
    @Incitatus

    Once again, and you still don’t get it.
    A primary source would be the actual documents that Speer claimed to be quoting. Which I asked for and you cannot produce.

    Yes there are many fraudulent & inaccurate translations of MK. Even Zionists admit that. Prove me wrong.

    I’ll ignore the rest of your childishness.

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Incitatus
    , @Sam Shama
  365. Incitatus says:
    @Wally

    “Once again, and you still don’t get it. A primary source would be the actual documents that Speer claimed to be quoting. Which I asked for and you cannot produce.”

    “Documents”? Speer didn’t have to quote “documents”. He heard it from big lips himself, as spoken to his faithful (favorite?) minister (only friend?).

    What are you trying to prove, Wally? The world’s flat?

    Let Mrs. Wally go! Face life in free air (notice the magic passage of wind). Rejoice! You didn’t win or lose WW2. You don’t have to churn out the same codoh dung day after day. No need to bind your nostrils as you vomit the same empty words! Through those shackles aside!

    Anyway. Nice dream, eh Wally?

    • Agree: Momus
    • Replies: @Wally
  366. Momus says:
    @Wally

    As you requested I explained how the Nazi SS carbon monoxide murder facilities were designed, and how they worked and that information is well known and well documented, down to the last unpleasant detail.

    Your favourite whale fall benthic feeding place also provides plenty of death camp gas chamber detail: of specifics; design of buildings, location of buildings, construction dates, time lines etc ad nauseum.

    What happens in that latrine is denier scoundrels try to pretend that without a lack of precise detail, Nazi gassing can somehow be proven not to have happened. Not so: subtle misrepresentations and pseudoscientific constructs, variances in evidence testimony and declarations don’t mean that at all. The physical, documentary and testimonial evidence exists and has convicted many Nazis.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Wally
  367. Incitatus says:
    @Mulegino1

    I appreciate your thoughtful post, Mulegino1. I disagree with much of it. I regret brevity forced by a holiday weekend, but hope to respond to a few points at the length they deserve.

    “Hitler’s government took no action against these clergymen”

    True, Hitler couldn’t risk losing religious support mid-war. He and Rosenberg, furious, were forced to postpone phasing-in a Nazi national church under the Ministry of Church Affairs. Galen et al. were certainly on the fatal deal-with-after-victory list.

    Conservative pastor Martin Niemöller (WW1 U-Boat captain, initial NSDAP supporter) wasn’t as lucky in 1938. He won a seven-year vacation at Sachsenhausen and Dachau for objecting to Nazification of German Protestant churches. He wasn’t alone. Why?

    What was his crime? Should the state have absolute power – without public trial and legal appeal – over dissenters?

    “it stands to reason that if there indeed was an “industrial scale genocide against the Jews” going on in the camps, Von Galen would have spoken out against it”

    Maybe. Maybe not.

    Galen, Pius XII and clerical knowledge at large remains a controversial question. Haven’t read a definitive study, so can only speculate. The German Christian religious community seemed relatively silent on the process of Jewish dis-enfranchisement and forced migration. It was a long, incremental process – similar to slowly advancing water temperature for the proverbial saucepan frog.

    Aside from incendiary rhetoric and random SA violence, it really debuted with Göbbels Reichskulturkammer (RKK: Reich Chamber of Culture) for music, film, architecture, visual arts, and literature. Every artist was required to submit an Aryan certificate and join. Rejection earned occupational ban (a death notice). The date was 22 Sep 1933.

    Jews (522,000 in Jan 1933) exited Germany as their rights and property were slowly stripped. Requiring Jews pay confiscatory exit-duties, and damages for Kristallnacht is a good example of cynical régime duplicity. 214,000 Jews remained in 1939 – years before mass killing commenced (1941) – so they enjoyed a fraction of former visibility in Germany. German Christian churches also had to contend with institutional threats (Nazification of their creed, a competing semi-pagan national Nazi church, parishioners murdered by Aktion T4, etc).

    End point? Can’t agree with the proposition Pius XII and German clergy were silent, QED mass killing didn’t happen. Two negatives don’t prove a positive. Himmler was fairly candid about secrecy in his ‘burned-bridges’ address to Gauleiters at Posen (6 Oct 1943). Say what you like about Heinie, he didn’t lie.

    Rosenberg (not the sharpest tool in the shed) was fairly specific on record as the mass killing began in 1941:

    “Some six million Jews still live in the East, and this question can only be solved by a biological extermination of the whole of Jewry in Europe. The Jewish Question will only be solved for Germany when the last Jew has left German territory, and for Europe when not a single Jew stands on the European continent as far as the Urals… And to this end it is necessary to force them beyond the Urals or otherwise bring about their eradication.”

    -Alfred Rosenberg, Reichsministerium für die besetzten Ostgebiete Reich (Minister for the Occupied Eastern Territories 1941-45) 1941 Conference

    Al offered no genuine defense at Nüremberg.

    “The policy of ultimate removal and resettlement elsewhere was never deviated from, although it was interrupted by the war- a war which was forced upon Germany by the absolute cynical British War Party, elements of the FDR administration, and organized international Jewry”

    Really think so? Listen to the Führer:

    “And so for the present only in the East I have put my death-head formations in place with the command relentlessly and without compassion to send into death many women and children of Polish origin and language. Only thus can we gain the living space we need. Who, after all, is today speaking about the destruction of the Armenians?…Poland will be depopulated and settled with Germans. My pact with the Poles was merely conceived of as a gaining of time. As for the rest, gentlemen, the fate of Russia will be exactly the same as I am now going through with in the case of Poland. After Stalin’s death – he is a very sick man – we will break the Soviet Union.”

    -Adolf Hitler 22 Aug 1939 address to his generals [Thomas Weber ‘Becoming Hitler’ p.277; Max Domarus ‘Complete Hitler’ iii 2231-2232]

    Hitler speaks like a predator, not a victim. Ignoring territorial guarantees by the UK and France, and the 1934 Deutsch-polnischer Nichtangriffspakt, he invades Poland without declaring war 1 Sep 1939. No one – Brits, FDR, Jews – forced Hitler to attack. He alone pulled the trigger.

    “Hitler’s harsh response to the Roehm Putsch was a necessary move”
    “Putsch”? Did Röhm declare his own state? Or was it a run-of-the mill extra-legal thug-kill-thug event?

    One can almost bridge your “necessary” gap with Röhm and the other SA thugs. NSDAP housekeeping?

    How about dozens of other victims? General/Chancellor Kurt von Schleicher and his wife (shot dead in their foyer)? Herbert von Bose (von Papen’s press chief; shot ten times in the back)? Generalmajor Ferdinand von Bredow (shot in the face opening his door)? Catholic journalist Fritz Gerlich (murdered at Dauchau)? Conservative lawyer Edgar Julius Jung (shot, dumped in an Oranienburg ditch)? Catholic politician and Papen associate Erich Klausener (shot by the SS)? Catholic youth leader Adalbert Probst (abducted, “shot while trying to escape”)? There are dozens more.

    What was their crime? Who decided? Would they agree their death was “a necessary move”?

    Make no mistake, what you chose for them may equally apply to you.

    Regret time to fully respond on Stauffenberg. He was valiant, but a member of German nobility that helped empower Hitler (19 Nov 1932 Industrielleneingabe). They initially expected to control him. Go figure! They sucked up as long as he was victorious, and medals and promotions kept coming. Their 20 Jul 1944 ‘putsch’ was a little late. Hitler, brilliant from 1919, could always outwit them.

    “the Communists would have gained power”

    Blame Ludendorff. He’s the one who gave Lenin $100 million and injected him into Russia in 1917. Without Ludendorff (Hitler’s senior associate) there may well have never have been ‘Communists’.

    “portrayed as a hero by Hollywood”

    Wouldn’t believe any of it these days.

    On the other hand, TMC screened ‘Best Years of Our Lives’ today. It poignantly portrays the price America paid in WW2. Won seven Academy Awards in 1946. Have you seen it? Americans were lucky in WW2. But they still paid a price. Vets still pay it every day.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Anon
    , @Mulegino1
  368. Wally says:
    @Momus

    - And I showed how the claims are scientifically impossible.
    - I showed you the fraudulence of the fake “documents”.
    - I showed how your “witness” made no sense whatsoever, how he laughably contradicted what other “witnesses” said, while he was trying save is ass from the Orwellian “judicial notice” for which no forensic study was ever presented to back it up.
    - I showed you how the lie has been changed by necessity from diesel to gasoline engines.
    - I asked for the court transcripts and there are none.
    - I asked for full cross examination records, and there are none. Which involved the notorious Stalinesque Dusseldorf Show trials, see here:
    Sobibor Commandant testifies to the impossible at Dusseldorf

    https://codoh.com/library/document/343/?lang=en

    - I debunked your cited author and communist secret police NKVD member, Yitzhak Arad, there’s more here:
    Communist Secret Police Member Yitzhak Arad: https://codoh.com/library/document/661/?lang=en#_ednref1
    and:
    Lies of Yitzhak Arad: https://codoh.com/library/document/654/?lang=en

    So then. Momus where are the claimed human remains from these laughable diesel / gasoline ‘gas chambers’? After all, at your site Sobibor it’s claimed that 250,00 jew remains are buried there, yet we see nothing. At Reinhardt camp Treblinka it’s claimed that 900,000 jew are buried there, yet we see nothing.
    Now try to tell us about the alleged & much different ‘gas chambers’ supposedly at Auschwitz. I’ll slap you silly on that as well. LOL
    And indeed, tons people were convicted of witchcraft. You are in over your head.
    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Momus
  369. Wally says:
    @Incitatus

    Except Rosenberg never said what you quoted in English.
    Please show us the original & authentic Rosenberg document from the alleged ’1941 conference’. Not someone’s creative “translation”.

    Then show us the allegedly known mass graves for that impossible ’6,000,000′. LOL

    Yawn, the dumb Armenian thing again … easily debunked here:

    Who Remembers the Armenians?” – Hitler Quote a Forgery
    By The Armenian Reporter

    https://codoh.com/library/document/1766/?lang=en

    and:
    the ‘Who today remembers the Armenians?’ canard

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=624

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  370. Wally says:
    @Incitatus

    IOW, there are no authentic documents to back up what you wish.

    Anyone can say they heard anything.

    “we’ve often fantasized about drawing up an indictment against Adolf Hitler himself. And to put into that indictment the major charge: the Final Solution of the Jewish question in Europe, the physical annihilation of Jewry. And then it dawned upon us, what would we do? We didn’t have the evidence.”

    - so called “holocaust historian”, Raul Hilberg,

    LOL

    http://www.codoh.com

  371. Wally says:
    @Momus

    Just for you:

    “it is necessary to recognize that the lack of traces involves the inability to directly establish the reality of the existence of homicidal gas chambers.”

    - French exterminationist historian Jacques Baynac, Le Nouveau Quotidien (Lausanne, Switzerland), Sept. 3, 1996, p. 14.

    Oops.

    http://www.codoh.com

  372. @Incitatus

    Truly dishonest, as usual. I made clear I am not defending euthanasia. The protestations of the German clergy are irrelevant here (they in fact contradict much established knowledge about Nazi Germany).

    And what name-calling? You don’t understand what I mean by Brown-baiting? I assume you’ve heard of Red-baiting (though perhaps you’d deny that you have). You’re doing the same thing here.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  373. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    Paragraphs please

  374. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Incitatus

    Incinatus

    What’s your take on the latest development in the Israeli Jewish extortion racket?

    It’s the claim that it was not the German occupation forces who murdered 3 million or 1 million or 6 million or 60 million Polish Jews during the WW2 occupation but the Polish civilians.

    And therefore Poland should pay 300 billion USD as reparations to Israel
    and other Jewish extortionists

    Any thoughts?

  375. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Josecanuc

    Is it premises liability because it happened in Poland?

  376. Momus says:
    @Wally

    You are making the claim that Nazi gas chamber murders are a furphy.

    You might even be contrarian enough to believe the half baked, pseudo scientific distortions and lies pedalled by the myriad jail time served, slime coated, copraphagous ‘researchers’ gnawing at the Holocaust carcass.

    You need to prove your contention beyond doubt- a logical impossibility- rather than picking and quibbling about loose ends that prove or rebut nothing.

    As far as the vast majority of people are concerned the evidence, mountains of it, proves nazis gassed vast numbers of Jews at extermination camps- and deliberately and systematically attempted to hide all evidence they did so.

    • Replies: @Wally
  377. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Josecanuc

    Use paragraphs if you expect people to read your posts.

  378. Incitatus says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    “Truly dishonest, as usual”

    Please specify my dishonesty.

    “I made clear I am not defending euthanasia”

    Where? Gobbledygook about “involuntary assisted suicide” (whatever that might be)?

    “The protestations of the German clergy are irrelevant here”

    Why? You know better than they? By what right?

    “they [clergy] in fact contradict much established knowledge about Nazi Germany”

    True. Why do you want to silence their record?

    “And what name-calling?”

    Well, shucks! How about ““Truly dishonest, as usual”? That sounds like you’re calling me a liar. Or ““dishonest idiot…charlatan…dishonesty…stupidity…phony howling…posturing…” Is that name calling? Help me out.

    “You don’t understand what I mean by Brown-baiting? I assume you’ve heard of Red-baiting (though perhaps you’d deny that you have). You’re doing the same thing here.”

    Don’t know, don’t care to learn what you mean by brown-red-white-black-or-any baiting. Sorry. Your paranoia is your problem. See a specialist.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  379. Wally says:
    @Momus

    The laughable ‘Nazi gas chambers’ were imposible and you made a fool of yourself pitching the nonsense about Erich Fuchs and Arad, the NKVD secret police member. LOL
    (To readers, see my earlier take down of Momus and his contradictory and impossible claims.)

    And once again, you cannot show the readers here what is ” half baked, pseudo scientific distortion” in what I posted. You simply run & hide and throw little girly fits.
    What “mountains of evidence”? You mean the impossible claims of Fuch and Arad? LOL

    And now you’ve tied yourself into knots and contradict the very absurd storyline you’re desperately trying to prop up by claiming the Germans “deliberately and systematically attempted to hide all evidence they did so.”
    So what’s it going to be, A or B?

    A. The Germans magically disappeared 11,000,000 human remains and those that claim to know the locations of extremely enormous mass grave are lying?

    B. Or the ‘disappearing human remains’ act is laughably fake & impossible while the claimed immense mass graves are actually where they are alleged to be, except no one can show them to us. LOL

    Now insert other foot.

    ‘Oh, what a tangled web Zionists weave, when first they practice to deceive!’

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Momus
  380. Momus says:
    @Wally

    You sound desperate and shrill now. Any adult who repeatedly has to use capitalised LOL’s and extravagant hyperbole to bolster a statement is losing.

    The Germans magically disappeared 11,000,000 human remains and those that claim to know the locations of extremely enormous mass grave are lying?

    Who is saying this? You repeat these huge numbers in every post. That might have been what some people claimed 30 or 40 years ago.

    Now, researchers and historians have revised the numbers down. The evidence for the mass killings and barbarous Nazi methods hasn’t been reduced though. DNA evidence and modern forensic techniques shed ever more light on the ghastly business of National Socialism. Old Nazis and collaborators are still being prosecuted and vocal deniers are being jailed.

    The caravan has moved on and you are a crippled-with-hate old dog barking as you are left behind.

    • Replies: @Wally
  381. Sam Shama says:
    @Wally

    No one needs to prove you wrong, [although Incitatus has eviscerated your nonsense], you’ve done a marvellous job of self-incrimination. You’ve been reduced if that were at all possible, to mumbling about conspiracies of false translations of Mein Kampf, insisting that Speer’s own account in his memoir is not to be taken as truth since he did not have “a document” from Dolf, etc.

    You can ignore all the wisdom coming your way for that is your custom, but please, for the sake of Broom Hilde do not light a cigarette when she is around, will you?

    • Replies: @Wally
  382. Sam Shama says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    Here is a piece of advice for you: prior to accusing anyone of any malfeasance or calling anyone a poster-boy for whatever, take a good look at yourself. Your choice of handle, for example, is a fine indicator of your insecurity, not to mention the content-rich posts which follow it.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  383. Wally says:
    @Momus

    In a state of panic Momus said:
    “The evidence for the mass killings and barbarous Nazi methods hasn’t been reduced though. DNA evidence and modern forensic techniques shed ever more light on the ghastly business of National Socialism. Old Nazis and collaborators are still being prosecuted and vocal deniers are being jailed.”

    What “DNA evidence”? From where?
    The “DNA evidence” that they cannot get from the alleged enormous mass graves because the alleged mass graves do not exist? LOL

    What “modern forensic techniques”?
    Two guys with shovels could settle the entire matter. But there are no remains as alleged. LOL

    Indeed, those that engaged in free speech against the ‘fact’ of witchcraft were jailed as well.
    Those that engaged in free speech against Communism were also jailed.

    Let it be known that Momus the Zionist supports laws against Free Speech, because:

    The ‘holocaust’ storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged supremacist Jews demand censorship. What sort of truth is it that denies free speech and the freedom to seek the truth? Truth needs no protection from scrutiny.
    Only liars demand censorship.

    http://www.codoh.com

  384. Wally says:
    @Sam Shama

    You mean the Incitatus, who like you, makes claims he cannot provide proof for as we have demonstrated repeatedly.

    You mean the Albert Speer who never mentions the ‘extermination’ of Jews in his memoirs? LOL

    Albert Speer and the ‘Holocaust’

    https://codoh.com/library/document/2110/?lang=en

    You mean Mein Kampf where there indeed is many different translations. As proven here:

    What is the best English translation of Mein Kampf?

    https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-best-English-translation-of-Mein-Kampf

    Poor Simple Sam slapped silly again.

    http://www.codoh.com

  385. Mulegino1 says:
    @Incitatus

    “And so for the present only in the East I have put my death-head formations in place with the command relentlessly and without compassion to send into death many women and children of Polish origin and language. Only thus can we gain the living space we need. Who, after all, is today speaking about the destruction of the Armenians?…Poland will be depopulated and settled with Germans. My pact with the Poles was merely conceived of as a gaining of time. As for the rest, gentlemen, the fate of Russia will be exactly the same as I am now going through with in the case of Poland. After Stalin’s death – he is a very sick man – we will break the Soviet Union.”

    -Adolf Hitler 22 Aug 1939 address to his generals [Thomas Weber ‘Becoming Hitler’ p.277; Max Domarus ‘Complete Hitler’ iii 2231-2232]

    I believe this spurious quote is from “Hitler Speaks” by one Hermann Rauschning, a long discredited source. Hitler would never have spoken to his generals in this fashion.

    Pastor Niemoller’s fate, although somewhat harsh, was not to be unexpected. The National Socialist regime made no claims to be liberal or democratic. In any case, how is his fate any worse than the fate of 86 year old Ursula Haverbeck, Sylvia Stolz, Horst Mahler, David Irving, Ernst Zundel or Germar Rudolf who all earned prison sentences for what can only be called throught crime with respect to the interpretation of a historical event- or non-event?

    With respect to the formation of a National Socialist based Protestant Church, this is the natural trajectory of Protestantism, which is rooted in ever changing interpretations of theology and traditions, unlike its Catholic (at least up till 1965 or so) and Eastern Orthodox counterparts. Having no supreme living earthly authority- and no real core doctrine other than the primacy of private judgement in the interpretation of the Scriptures- it is subject to infinite malleability at the hands of the temporal authority, whose powers it considers total in matters pertaining to Caesar’s domain. Even though Luther rebelled against the authority of the Pope, he considered the authority of one of noble protector’s, the Margrave of Hesse, to be pretty much absolute in temporal affairs. If you consider the official Anglican Communion of today, or most of the mainline Protestant Churches, their leadership’s dogmatic theology has about as much affinity with historical Christianity as does Tarot reading with quantum mechanics.

    I believe that had there been an industrial scale genocide of the Jews- both Galen and the Vatican would have known. There were millions of Catholics in the Wehracht and the SS. There were also enormous numbers of Catholic Polish and Ukrainian auxiliaries who both worked in the camps and served as SS auxiliaries. And there were hundreds of thousands of Catholic non-German Europeans who fought with the Waffen SS. It is difficult to imagine that none of them, after having observed what was going on, a large portion of them would not have discussed the matter in the confessional. The priest is bound by absolute secrecy and cannot reveal the confession of a particular individual, but certainly is permitted to refer to crimes being committed without revealing the identities of those who confessed them. I daresay that the Cardinal Primate of Poland would have known all about it and would have gotten word to Pius XII, who was not, as some have claimed, pro-Hitler. Indeed, it is now widely believed that Eugenio Pacelli was the author of “Mit Brennender Sorge” which was issued to the German Bishops during the pontificate of Pius XI, and which was highly critical of many of the political points of National Socialism. If anything, Pius XII, while officially maintaining Vatican neutrality, favored the Anglo-American Allies, as was evinced by his euphoric welcome of General Mark Clark on his forces “liberation” of Rome. Even if he was a cynical fence straddler who sided with whichever side appeared to be winning, by the time the Americans occupied Rome, there would be no reason for him not to have issued a worldwide denunciation and condemnation of an “industrial scale homicide.” And Galen, who was a giant of a man and not afraid of martyrdom, would most certainly have spoken out as well.

  386. @Mulegino1

    It’s interesting to note that the very same people who scoff at the notion that the American government could have kept its wrong-doing on 9-11 a secret, have absolutely no problem believing that the Germans could have secretly run an industrial-scale mass murder program in the middle of a war on foreign soil.

  387. Sam Shama says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    A truly bovine comment. It is precisely during a war that an aggressor which has prevailed, has a vice-like grip on information flow, movements of the population, etc, that atrocities of a large-scale can and have occurred.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  388. Mulegino1 says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    Absolutely true.

    Although nonsensical, the “Holocaust via telepathy” was actually suggested by Raul Hillberg with his “meeting of the minds in a far flung bureaucracy.”

    It would have been impossible to keep an “industrial scale mass murder” of Jews secret, particularly at Auschwitz Birkenau, where there were hundreds of Polish day laborers.

    One wonders how the Holocaustians can explain how a top secret program of mass extermination became the “most documented event in history.”

  389. Incitatus says:
    @Mulegino1

    “I believe this spurious quote is from “Hitler Speaks” by one Hermann Rauschning…”

    The quote is from 22 Aug 1939. Rauschning fled Germany in ’36; ‘Gespräche mit Hitler’ records (questionable) conversations 1932-34. Pease relate the basis of your attribution.

    The quote is used by Thomas Weber and Max Domarus. A shorter version is cited by Shirer (Rise and Fall of the Third Reich’ p.532), Evans (‘The Third Reich at War’ p.11), and Wittman & Kinney (‘The Devil’s Diary’ p.246). Richard Albrecht concluded it an authentic note by Wilhelm Canaris. Are they part of a conspiracy?

    “Hitler would never have spoken to his generals in this fashion.”

    Why not? He was capable of murdering SA ‘comrades’. Dozens of political rivals, a former chancellor and his wife, even Gustav Ritter von Kahr (who opposed the 8 Nov 1923 Putsch). Imprisoned and outlawed other parties (SPD, KPD, etc.) Put over 10,000 political opponents in “protective custody” in Prussia alone by 15 Mar 1933. Had Dollfuss assassinated in a failed coup. Ruined Bloomberg and Fritsch on the basis of phony charges. Intentionally abused and threatened Hácha into a heart attack. The list goes on and on.

    Are you saying Hitler, obviously capable of ruthless action and reckless ambition, would ‘talk nice’ to his generals on the eve of his greatest gamble? Why?

    Hitler was quite candid with his service chiefs in 1937:

    “The Fuhrer then continued: The aim of German policy was to make secure and to preserve the racial community (Volksmasse) and to enlarge it. It was therefore a question of space…The only remedy, and one which might appear to us as visionary, lay in the acquisition of greater living space…Germany’s problem could only be solved by means of force and this was never without attendant risk…there remain still to be answered the questions “when” and “how.”

    -Adolf Hitler remarks his service chiefs recorded by Col. Friedrich Hoßbach 5 Nov 1937

    http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~mkinnear/Hossbach%20memorandum.pdf

    Hitler had buyer’s remorse for the peaceful digestion of Sudetenland in the Munich Agreement 29 Sep 1938. His pledge to forgo new territorial claims chafed. On 21 Oct he issued orders to formulate “a sudden attack…so that the Czechs have no chance to organize any sort of defense”. The goal was “to rapidly occupy the country and seal off Czech from Slovak territory” [Göbbels Tagebücher part 1, vol.6, p.246]. On 10 Mar 1939 Göbbels gushed in anticipation after Hácha dismissed Nazi ally Tiso: “This is a launching pad. Now we can get a complete solution to the problem we were only half able to solve in October…Decision: on Wednesday 15 March [1939], we’ll invade and destroy the entire monstrous construct that is Czechoslovakia” [Göbbels Tagebücher part 1, vol.6, p.279f].

    Your original assertion: “a war which was forced upon Germany by the absolute cynical British War Party, elements of the FDR administration, and organized international Jewry”

    Hitler’s fingerprints are all over the gun. Kindly provide evidence of intent, planning, and action by the “cynical British War Party”, FDR, and “organized international Jewry”. How did they manage to get Hitler to invade most of Europe? Please be specific.

    “Pastor Niemoller’s fate, although somewhat harsh, was not to be unexpected. The National Socialist regime made no claims to be liberal or democratic. In any case, how is his fate any worse than the fate of 86 year old Ursula Haverbeck…”

    Isn’t Ursula still on the lamb? I disagree with speech penalties, but Germany has a right to its laws. After two devastating wars, maybe they’re tired of rabble-rousers. Ursula – who knows the risks – seems to enjoy the celebrity.

    Here’s a basic difference. Niemöller was one of 2,720 clerics imprisoned at Dachau. Generally they advocated for the individual right of conscience. What does Ursula advocate? A return to collective mindlessness, the good old days of Ein Reich, Ein Volk, Ein Führer? ‘The Führer We Loved and Why?’ Never mind the death of millions (including Germans) and leveling the Vaterland?

    “The priest is bound by absolute secrecy and cannot reveal the confession of a particular individual, but certainly is permitted to refer to crimes being committed without revealing the identities of those who confessed them”

    You’ve answered your own question. What proof does a priest have if those he confesses chose to remain anonymous? Aktion T4 victims were known in their communities. Victims am Ost were nameless.

    • Replies: @Wally
  390. Incitatus says:
    @Wally

    “Except Rosenberg never said what you quoted in English.”

    Spot on Wally! Why indeed would Rosenberg speak English to Nazi flunkies am Ost? Ask Wittman and Kinney (‘Devil’s Diary’ authors) for their source. I’d look up it up, but what’s the point? You weasel the words of Mr. Big himself.

    “Please show us the original & authentic Rosenberg”

    OK. Just this once. Here he is, responding in séance. He’s talking to you now:

    “Bitte, atme tief durch. Beruhigen. Ruf Frau Wally an (trägt sie einen Helm?). Einatmen Ausatmen. Sprich laut: ‘Die Welt ist nicht flach. Es ist nicht meine Schuld. Hitler ist tot. Es ist nicht meine Schuld. Die Welt versteht. Es ist nicht meine Schuld.’ Besser fühlen?”

    [“Please, take a deep breath. Calm down. Call Mrs. Wally (is she wearing a helmet?). Breathe in. Breathe out. Say out loud ‘the world is not flat. It's not my fault. Hitler is dead. It's not my fault. The world understands. It's not my fault.’ Feel better?”]

    Al used to have panic attacks. All that nonstop sputtering, strutting and saluting. Never could find a good deodorant. Deathly afraid of stains. Blamed them on International Jewry and Joe Stalin. Learned to control his anxiety by whispering “It’s not my fault” over and over. Good practice for Nüremberg!

    Does codoh have uniforms? Opaque brown bags that fit fully over the head? Al muttered something like “braune koftasche für codoh, bitte”, but he’s not easy to follow.

    Thank the Reichsminister, Wally. Tell him you hope his stiff neck improves. Five extra points if you also thank his dachshund Felix. As you know, 100 points gets you a Knight’s Cross of Manure Spreading, so keep up the good work.

    • Replies: @Wally
  391. Wally says:
    @Incitatus

    Boom! I have nailed Incitatus yet again.
    But hey, he’s a Zionist, so that’s not saying much. Not the sharpest tools in the shed.

    He cannot show the original Rosenberg document that says what his laughably false, contrived English “translation” says. He just keeps on losing.

    The rest of his juvenile silliness reflects his state of arrested development, unworthy of response.

    Still waiting to see those millions of Jew human remains that are allegedly known.

    more for Unz readers:
    The liars can’t keep their lies straight: Ever changing Auschwitz numbers

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5631

    If Jews like you were really so smart they would have conjured up a better, more believable story than their impossibly fake & stupid ’6,000,000 & gas chambers’.
    http://www.codoh.com

  392. anarchyst says:
    @Mulegino1

    The latest jewish “holocaust ™” swindle is that of the “holocaust ™ transference syndrome” where (only) jewish “holocaust memories are transferred to their children, grandchildren, great grandchildren and even to unrelated persons. This claim by two jewish psychiatrists is gaining traction among jewish “holocaust ™” promoters in order to “keep the dream alive” and to “keep the reparations and shekels flowing”. You see, these children, grandchildren, great grandchildren and other unrelated individuals are also seen as jewish “holocaust ™” survivors, worthy of reparations and special treatment.
    When will it end?

    • Replies: @Mulegino1
  393. Wally says:
    @Incitatus

    Incitatus never misses an opportunity to make a fool of himself. To wit:

    [MORE]

    Swiss Historian Exposes Anti-Hitler Rauschning Memoir as Fraudulent

    https://codoh.com/library/document/2058/?lang=en

    Rauschning’s Phony ‘Conversations With Hitler’: An Update

    https://codoh.com/library/document/2141/?lang=en

    Rauschning, Letters

    https://codoh.com/library/document/2878/?lang=en

    Much more on Rauschning at:

    https://codoh.com/search/?sorting=relevance&q=rauschning

    On Incitatus’s desperate use of Hossbach:

    The Hossbach ‘Protocol’: The Destruction of a Legend

    https://codoh.com/library/document/2057/?lang=en

    Not Guilty at Nuremberg / Hossbach

    https://codoh.com/library/document/233/?lang=en

    Much more on Hossbach here: https://codoh.com/search/?sorting=relevance&q=hossbach
    Also, Niemoller debunked here: https://codoh.com/search/?sorting=relevance&q=niemoller

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Incitatus
  394. Anon[212] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wally

    This site can’t be reached
    The connection was reset.
    Try:

    Checking the connection
    Checking the proxy and the firewall
    Running Windows Network Diagnostics
    ERR_CONNECTION_RESET

    Your dogshit site cannot be reached. Asked 3 others to try. Same result. Good :-)

  395. Momus says:

    The Messiah is a blue whale.

    Surely a harbinger of good and greatness when a blue whale visits Israel.

    These creatures suffered their own Holocaust and were almost exterminated when hunting stopped in 1965

    https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5274780,00.html

  396. Mulegino1 says:
    @anarchyst

    Good point.

    In a society dominated by the Jews, eventually everything is monetized. When there is nothing physically real left to attribute monetary value to, some form of financial derivative or security must be invented and issued and apply to gross fictions such as “Holocaust transference syndrome”, an interesting exemplar of the usurer’s mindset. Think of an entirely imaginative entity earning compound interest forever!

  397. Incitatus says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    “Yawn”

    The only intelligent comment you’ve made to date, BM!

    Let us know when you can explain “involuntary assisted suicide”.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  398. Incitatus says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    “It’s interesting to note” those who have unbounded faith and admiration for Nazis, who rose from nothing to supreme power in a campaign of ingenious duplicity and violence, underestimate their ability to deliver on promises made over and over and over 1919-45. In a venue they totally controlled.

    No less impressive? “The very same people” believing the “heck of a job Brownie”, “WMDs” and “few dead-enders” GW Bush Administration could engineer and keep secret the crime of the millennium.

    Whatever it takes to get you through your (dull, dull?) day, BM.

  399. Mulegino1 says:

    Hitler’s fingerprints are all over the gun. Kindly provide evidence of intent, planning, and action by the “cynical British War Party”, FDR, and “organized international Jewry”. How did they manage to get Hitler to invade most of Europe? Please be specific.

    Hitler’s fingerprints are hardly “all over the gun.” Hitler made numerous offers of disarmament to France and Britain- all of which, with the sole exception of the Anglo-German Naval Agreement- were rejected. The Naval Agreement’s terms were highly favorable to Britain, allowing it to retain a large numerical advantage in warship tonnage, and was only abrogated when the government of Britain made its cynical offer of alliance with Poland, an offer it knew it could not- and did not-honor.

    Hitler had no great desire for war with any country, but one can hardly expect a proud nation such as Germany to maintain the grossly unjust Versailles agreement’s grossly unjust terms, providing for the dismemberment of a great deal of Germany’s territory, along with the creation of an entirely fictional polity, Czechoslovakia. I noticed you mentioned Hacha, but I see you failed to note that the Germans retained him as President of Czechia even after the annexation.

    There are many good and scholarly works which demonstrate that Hitler did not want war and made many efforts to avoid it- including last minute offers for peace talks with Poland and requesting Poland send a plenipotentiary for such discussions during the very last days of August 1939- which was outright rejected by the Polish regime. As a matter fact, Hitler’s terms for peace were so reasonable that, in early September, 1939, they were censored in the British press, as most of the public would have been outraged had they realized that their government had declared war on Germany instead of actively negotiating a German-Polish peace agreement.

    Hitler’s initial policy with regards to Danzig, then an international free state under League of Nations mandate, was more conciliatory than that of his Weimar predecessors. He offered Poland the retention of the Polish corridor as Polish territory, and only asked for a narrow transportation corridor to be given to Germany in order to link East Prussia to the rest of Germany. He offered the Poles continued use of the Danzig port and their own port at Gdnyia in exchange for returning Danzig (95% ethnic German) to the Reich.

    The portrayal of the Poles as innocent victims of German aggression is fiction. The regime of the Polish colonels, led by Rydz-Smigly, had become increasingly bellicose since the British guarantee, whereas beforehand it had a non-aggression pact with Germany since 1934 (when Marshal Pilsudski was president) and benefited from the breakup of Czechoslovakia by annexing the Teschen region. The mistreatment of the German minorities in Poland was ramped up; Polish flak batteries fired on civilian Lufthansa airliners flying to and from East Prussia, and the Polish General Staff had prepared “Operation West” which envisioned moving the borders of Poland to the west of Berlin. Incidentally, this plan had been drawn up before Hitler ordered his generals to draw up plans for the invasion of Poland.

    Hitler certainly did not want war with Poland, and it is false to claim that he hated the Poles- the foregoing are not the words of a bloodthirsty madman but of a political realist whose country was maneuvered into war by British and American manipulation of Poland as a willing dupe:

    It should be obvious that both Britain and the FDR administration would want war against Germany, primarily for economic reasons. Hitler’s economic miracle of rebuilding the German economy without any significant amount of international reserves on hand, his establishment of the work based currency and his international barter trade were all threats to the hegemony of Wall St. and the City of London.

    The British war party (whose members included Winston Churchill, Anthony Eden, Duff Cooper, Vanistaart, inter alia) were very keen on getting Great Britain into war with Germany and once having done so, were certain that America would be dragged into the conflict as it was in the First World War.
    Churchill himself, a chronically indebted drunkard, was bailed out of debt by the FOCUS group, a largely Jewish organization whose objective was a war against Germany.

    Likewise, FDR’s administration’s roving ambassador in Europe, William Bullit, was doing all he could to pressure reluctant France, the more peace minded members of the British government and the bellicose Poles to provoke the Germans into war, with the promise of eventual US intervention.

    It should be recalled that Britain and France declared war on Germany on September 3, 1939, not the other way around. In doing so, these two governments initiated the Second World War by intervening in what was mostly a German-Polish border war.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  400. Incitatus says:
    @Sam Shama

    Mighty BM’s temperament meter is stuck between envy, spite, anger and hate. When caught in transparent nonsense (eg. “involuntary assisted suicide”), a little puff of smoke exits, forcing him to “yawn” or “double-yawn”. This allows him a moment to extract foot from mouth.

    Then, of course, BM returns to advocating the same nonsense and foot inevitably returns to mouth. You can guess what happens next.

    It’s not for nothing BM holds the Knight’s Cross in Manure Spreading with Crossed Legs and Turd Cluster [Ritterkreuz in Gülle mit gekreuzten Beinen und Turd Cluster]. He’s working on gold turds at the moment.

  401. Incitatus says:
    @Wally

    “Incitatus never misses an opportunity to make a fool of himself. To wit:
    Swiss Historian Exposes Anti-Hitler Rauschning Memoir as Fraudulent…”

    Take the bag off your head, Wally. I never quoted Rauschning. Never used him as a source. Re-read #398.

    The quote I cited is from 22 Aug 1939. It’s used by Thomas Weber and Max Domarus. A shorter version is cited by Shirer…Evans…and Wittman & Kinney. Richard Albrecht concluded it an authentic note by Wilhelm Canaris.

    Rauschning’s ‘Gespräche mit Hitler’ records (questionable) conversations 1932-34. Five years earlier.

    [Wally's CODOH weblinks on Rauschning; Hoßbach; Niemöller]

    You refer to your own codoh septic tank as sovereign authority? Seriously? How much are they paying you (I hope it’s a lot – you deserve it).

    “The rest of his juvenile silliness reflects his state of arrested development, unworthy of response…”

    Take a break Wally. Calm down. Breathe in, breath out. It’s not your fault. You’ve probably heard about the human sense of humor. Well, maybe not. Maybe it’s beyond codoh spammers.

    Come to think of it, Wally, did Hitler ever crack a smile? Came close at Compiègne – or was that a smirk – as he strutted in ecstasy (he managed to do in weeks what nitwits Ludendorff and Hindenburg failed to do in years). No matter. Smiles or smirks from invading countries and killing people.

    Is there a codoh article you recommend on the Nazi sense of humor and/or Führer smiles? Other than your unintended humorous comments?

    • Replies: @Wally
  402. @Incitatus

    “The only intelligent comment you’ve made to date, BM!”

    Well, that’s still one more than you.

  403. @Incitatus

    Looks like you two have a Tribal love-fest going on here.

  404. @Mulegino1

    Don’t forget the apparently non-existent concern with secrecy at Treblinka (a “pure death camp”), where in addition to things supposedly taking place in plain sight of neighboring Polish farms, prostitutes from Warsaw for the Ukrainian guards were strolling about.

  405. @Incitatus

    “Mighty BM’s temperament meter is stuck between envy, spite, anger and hate.”

    Wow, that’s some Tribal projection you’ve got going there.

  406. So, for the sake of argument, let’s say Hitler beseeched his generals to show no mercy in Poland. Therefore….what, exactly? The absurdities of the Holocaust narrative are rendered believable? Yes, stellar logic there.

    I suppose Israeli and American decision-makers urge their soldiers to spread love and happiness?

  407. Incitatus says:
    @Mulegino1

    “Hitler’s fingerprints are hardly “all over the gun.” Hitler made numerous offers of disarmament to France and Britain- all of which, with the sole exception of the Anglo-German Naval Agreement- were rejected.”

    Versailles, signed by Germany, required German disarmament. What was Hitler doing? Renegotiating with threats?

    I’ve provided direct contemporary quotes of Hitler/Göbbels/Speer. All sourced. Do us the honor of providing same from those you claim were the real authors of war. Otherwise, don’t waste our time.

    “Hitler had no great desire for war with any country, but one can hardly expect a proud nation such as Germany to maintain the grossly unjust Versailles agreement’s grossly unjust terms, providing for the dismemberment of a great deal of Germany’s territory, along with the creation of an entirely fictional polity, Czechoslovakia…”

    Believe in reincarnation? Ever feel inexplicable affection for Joachim von Ribbentrop? You sound just like him. Maybe, with a little luck, you can bring on another world war and destroy Germany again. Gruß Gott!

    “There are many good and scholarly works which demonstrate that Hitler did not want war and made many efforts to avoid it- including last minute offers for peace talks with Poland…”

    Who invaded who, Mulegino1? Did Poland invade Germany?

    “Hitler’s initial policy with regards to Danzig, then an international free state under League of Nations mandate, was more conciliatory than that of his Weimar predecessors. He offered Poland the retention of the Polish corridor as Polish territory, and only asked for a narrow transportation corridor to be given to Germany in order to link East Prussia to the rest of Germany. He offered the Poles…”

    Hitler killed or imprisoned most of his “Weimar predecessors”. What did Hitler offer Poles that he didn’t promise Czechs? Don’t you think, given recent events, they were wise to distrust Hitler? What treaty did he make that he didn’t break?

    “It should be obvious that both Britain and the FDR administration would want war against Germany, primarily for economic reasons. Hitler’s economic miracle of rebuilding the German economy without any significant amount of international reserves on hand, his establishment of the work based currency and his international barter trade were all threats to the hegemony of Wall St. and the City of London.”

    Sorry. Why should it be obvious? Not acting when Germany evades Versailles limits by utilizing militias like the Freikorps? Defaults on Versailles payments? Reoccupies the demilitarized Rhineland? Transparently rearms? Uses Spain as a weapons proving-ground?

    I must be dull (not the first time). Please give us direct evidence “Britain and the FDR administration [wanted] war against Germany”. Do us the honor of contemporary quotes (sourced) and directives.

    “Hitler certainly did not want war with Poland, and it is false to claim that he hated the Poles…”

    Why did he invade? Who forced invasion? Did Poles order German to invade? What rubbish!

    “It should be recalled that Britain and France declared war on Germany on September 3, 1939, not the other way around. In doing so, these two governments initiated the Second World War by intervening in what was mostly a German-Polish border war”

    Indeed! Well said! No need to mention Britain and France laid down the red line after being swindled by Hitler in the Sudetenland and Czechoslovakia (1938-39). Hitler, knowing the guarantees, invaded Poland 1 Sep 1939 without a declaration of war (voiding his 1934 treaty with Poles). Most say Hitler was the aggressor. You say it was all the fault of “Britain and France”, who declared war three days after Germany invaded. Please explain why.

    Tell us, Mulegino1. Was there one treaty or agreement Hitler made that he didn’t break? Please tell us which.

  408. Mulegino1 says:

    Who invaded who, Mulegino1? Did Poland invade Germany?

    This is not a very good question, since it implies that in any armed conflict, it is always the party that fires the first shot that must bear most or all of the blame. Despite Germany keeping to the terms of German-Polish non-aggression pact, Poland abrogated that agreement by establishing a de facto military alliance with Great Britain. In addition, the Polish regime rebuffed Hitler’s quite reasonable demands with respect to Danzig and the Corridor, fired on German civilian aircraft, and declared total mobilization before Germany did so. Forces of Polish irregulars also engaged in night raids against German border facilities. In addition, the Polish president openly threatened that he would re-establish Poland’s borders to the west of Berlin. Poland was hardly guiltless in the matter, and provided Germany with many a casus belli.

    Did Poland invade the USSR a few weeks later? Where was the moral indignation and declarations of war from the righteous French and British who went to war to protect Poland’s territorial integrity?

    Indeed! Well said! No need to mention Britain and France laid down the red line after being swindled by Hitler in the Sudetenland and Czechoslovakia (1938-39). Hitler, knowing the guarantees, invaded Poland 1 Sep 1939 without a declaration of war (voiding his 1934 treaty with Poles). Most say Hitler was the aggressor. You say it was all the fault of “Britain and France”, who declared war three days after Germany invaded. Please explain why.

    Again, another horrible legacy of the Treaty of Versailles. Czechoslovakia was an artificial country made up of a dominant Czech majority, a large Slovak minority that wanted independence, and numerous minorities, including the Poles in the Teschen region, which was annexed by Poland, Hungarians, etc. Its creation was a stupid idea in the first place. Once Germany got the historically German Sudetenland, and the Slovaks got their independence, nothing was left but a rump Czech state which would have been indefensible, and a threat to greater Germany, as it would serve as the bridgehead for a Soviet invasion. Interesting to note that President Hacha remained in power for the duration of the war.

    Sorry. Why should it be obvious? Not acting when Germany evades Versailles limits by utilizing militias like the Freikorps? Defaults on Versailles payments? Reoccupies the demilitarized Rhineland? Transparently rearms? Uses Spain as a weapons proving-ground?

    According to the Versailles treaty, Germany was allowed an army of 100,000 troops with no heavy weaponry, no air force and only a small coastal navy. How can such a nation possibly defend itself when facing potential adversaries like France- with world’s largest army- the USSR, or the world’s foremost naval power, Britain?

    And why should Germany have continued usurious reparations payments , which had led it down the road to absolute impoverishment and the starvation of its people?

    Not only the Germans, but many others, thought the Versaille Treaty was horribly unjust- including the majority of the U.S. Senate, which refused to ratify the treaty. It was indeed a scrap of paper and no self-respecting leader concerned with the well being of his people could have refused to disavow and reject it.

    For the usual suspects, it is fine if people suffer death from starvation, disease from extreme poverty, massive unemployment and the loss of their dignity as long as the shekels keep flowing.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  409. Even wiki acknowledges that the Armenian reference in the Obersalzberg speech is of dubious authenticity.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler%27s_Obersalzberg_Speech

    See also:

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=3222

    It tells you everything you need to know that Wikipedia has more intellectual honesty than the Tribesmen here.

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  410. Them Guys says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    Most every reply or statement by these kosher subversives here, again and again prove what god said about them and their tribe is/was 100% spot on correct eh. Ie: in many biblical verses god calls them a stiff necked and stubborn people of which he so dispised.

    Another such verse that these kosher clowns continue to daily prove as accurate as the prior mentioned verses are is found in the new testement books, where the kosher khazar fake jews are called…”The Adversaries of God, and of All of Mankind!”…So, So Truthfull eh. Adversaries is a nicer way to say, Enemies of God and of All of Mankind.

    And it is almost as easy to recognize a kosher poster here, as it is to spot the jew within a huge crowd at a mall for example…Provided of course one is jewized up and has well tuned jewdar…Personally I much prefer to view them from a side profile angle since the typical sloped/slanted downwards angle from top of forehead down to lower chin area of side facial profile is a dead give away usually.

    The only other entities that share in such a same type side profile slant are, African Negros, Gorillas/Apes, and Neaderthall’s. There is a good yutube video I saw once that showed the actual skulls of all of these types with that obvious slant look…This method can be defeated at times due to so many of jewry mix with real euro whites as well as various makeup and wigs and nose jobs etc of course…However for a real kosher khazar this side profile look works almost 100%.

    When it comes to reply postings one has a greater challange to ID a kosher tribe member, but typical oft used projections of guilt on the other, along with the ever present use of vile and idiotic slanderous name calls as read here so often from the same stiff necked crew of jews, usually outs them fast, no.

    I also note that one of the earliest warnings or teachings from my Mother, that I can recll from as young as age 4 yrs old and onwards. Was when Mom repeatedly told me to “Beware Them Guys, and be very carefull who you hang out with or become friends with, and when older do any buisness with etc..” and when I’d ask her “Why do you keep telling me that stuf Mom”?

    Her answer was always the same of “Carefull who you be friends with Them Guys, because if you choose the Wrong type persons or groups you will likely have the tendency to Become Like Them!”

    And boy was Mom correct eh!..Especially when one sees just how closely alike or akin to a jew, so many duped and guilted white folk in america and europe have become. The more and longer they feel a kinship to or with jews, the more and worse they resemble a jew. And in the absolute worst ways typically. Untill those idiotic guilted and duped white folk become a useless self hateing delusional white man or woman.

    • Replies: @Momus
  411. Momus says:
    @Them Guys

    When it comes to reply postings one has a greater challange to ID a kosher tribe member, but typical oft used projections of guilt on the other, along with the ever present use of vile and idiotic slanderous name calls as read here so often from the same stiff necked crew of jews, usually outs them fast, no.

    Window licking grade commentary.

    Are you trying to prove you’re mentally ill?

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  412. Wally says:
    @Incitatus

    Incitatus keeps repeating his vapid & thoroughly debunked nonsense hoping no one will notice.

    “we’ve often fantasized about drawing up an indictment against Adolf Hitler himself. And to put into that indictment the major charge: the Final Solution of the Jewish question in Europe, the physical annihilation of Jewry. And then it dawned upon us, what would we do? We didn’t have the evidence.”
    - so called “holocaust historian”, Raul Hilberg

    “Alone the fact that one may not question the Jewish “holocaust” and that Jewish pressure has inflicted laws on democratic societies to prevent questions—while incessant promotion and indoctrination of the same averredly incontestable ‘holocaust’ occur—gives the game away. It proves that it must be a lie. Why else would one not be allowed to question it? Because it might offend the “survivors”? Because it “dishonors the dead”? Hardly sufficient reason to outlaw discussion. No, because the exposure of this leading lie might precipitate questions about so many other lies and cause the whole ramshackle fabrication to crumble.”

    - Gerard Menuhin / righteous Revisionist Jew, son of famous violinist
    http://www.codoh.com

  413. Mitchell says:

    Minor quibble. I think something’s wrong with your Hebrew display: בתורה מאוחר ואין מוקדם אין, batorah meuchar v-ein muqdam ein.

    That reads, “In the Torah afterward and there is no early there is no.” It’s gibberish, because every word is in reverse order. Instead of batorah meuchar v-ein muqdam ein, you want ein muqdam v-ein me’uchar batorah, there is no early and there is no late in the Torah.

    Or maybe it’s just my browser acting up.

  414. @Momus

    “Are you trying to prove you’re mentally ill?”

    Clearly, you’re qualified to judge on this.

  415. Incitatus says:
    @Mulegino1

    “This [Did Poland invade Germany?] is not a very good question, since it implies that in any armed conflict, it is always the party that fires the first shot that must bear most or all of the blame”

    Sorry. It’s a very good question. Is Saddam to blame for the US 2003 invasion? The party that initiates armed conflict rolls the dice and invites the law of the jungle. Lesson: make sure you win. Hitler lost.

    “the Polish regime rebuffed Hitler’s quite reasonable demands with respect to Danzig and the Corridor”

    Who decides what’s “reasonable”? Hitler? You?

    What credibility did Hitler have after invading Czechoslovakia? Six months earlier he vowed Sudetenland was his last demand. Six months before that he engineered Anschluß. Poland could expect the “corridor”, if granted, would grow in width to take the whole country. Which, as it turns out, was exactly what Hitler had in mind.

    “Did Poland invade the USSR a few weeks later? Where was the moral indignation and declarations of war from the righteous French and British who went to war to protect Poland’s territorial integrity?”

    Valid point. Chamberlain issued general condemnations but, though pressed by the Polish Ambassador Edward Raczynski, refused to declare war. The treaty promised aid in the event of attack, but secretly identified Germany as the threat. In any case, Britain and France could do little to assist Poland against Germany or the USSR.

    Speaking of “moral indignation” in treaties, please explain Germany’s good faith in:

    • The Versailles Treaty (signed 1919, violated before the ink was dry);
    • The Munich Agreement on the Sudetenland, Hitler’s “last territorial demand” (Sep ‘38, violated Mar ‘39);
    • The Deutsch-polnischer Nichtangriffspakt (signed ‘34, violated 1 Sep ‘39);
    • The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact (signed Aug ’39, violated 22 Jun ’41).

    Tell us, Mulegino1. Was there one treaty or agreement Hitler made that he didn’t break? Please tell us which.

    “a rump Czech state which would have been indefensible, and a threat to greater Germany, as it would serve as the bridgehead for a Soviet invasion”

    Why did Hitler promise Sudetenland was his “last territorial demand” Sep ‘38? Was that a lie? He ordered invasion plans less than a month later.

    Suppose I covet part of your property. I physically threaten you and, in mediation with neighbors, force you to sign it over to me. I promise it’s my last demand. Six months later, I give you a heart attack and take the rest of your property, saying it’s “a threat”. You comfortable with that?

    “How can such a nation possibly defend itself when facing potential adversaries”

    Germany and Austria-Hungary refused mediation, declared war, and invaded neighbors in 1914. Do the neighbors (Belgium, France, Britain, Serbia, etc.) have the right to assure defense, or is it only Germany that counts?

    “Czechoslovakia was an artificial country made up”

    Who decides what’s artificial? Modern Germany was an artificial country: it didn’t exist prior to 1871. Bavarians really didn’t much care for Prussians, vice-versa, etc. By your logic, didn’t ‘artificial’ Germany deserve dismemberment?

    “According to the Versailles treaty, Germany was allowed an army of 100,000 troops…”

    Not to worry. The Freikorps provided 300,000 to 400,000 auxiliaries. Weapons limits were not observed.

    “And why should Germany have continued usurious reparations payments…”

    Germany didn’t even pay what it demanded of France (5 billion gold Francs) in 1871. Bismarck occupied Northern France until it was paid. To say nothing of Alsace-Lorraine. Was that “usurious”? Any tears for France?

    What about the 6 billion marks Ludendorff demanded of Russia in the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk (3 Mar 1918)? On top of 1+ million square miles of territory (home to 50 million people), 33% of its rails, 73% of its iron, 89% of its coal, 5000 factories. Was that “usurious”? Any tears for Russia?

    Is Germany the only victim of wars it started? Give us a clue.

    “It [Versailles] was indeed a scrap of paper and no self-respecting leader concerned with the well being of his people could have refused to disavow and reject it”

    Why did they sign? Just so they could break it?

    • Replies: @Mulegino1
  416. Mulegino1 says:
    @Incitatus

    Valid point. Chamberlain issued general condemnations but, though pressed by the Polish Ambassador Edward Raczynski, refused to declare war. The treaty promised aid in the event of attack, but secretly identified Germany as the threat. In any case, Britain and France could do little to assist Poland against Germany or the USSR.

    So why did Britain make a promise to Poland it knew it could not fulfill?

    Speaking of “moral indignation” in treaties, please explain Germany’s good faith in:

    • The Versailles Treaty (signed 1919, violated before the ink was dry);
    • The Munich Agreement on the Sudetenland, Hitler’s “last territorial demand” (Sep ‘38, violated Mar ‘39);
    • The Deutsch-polnischer Nichtangriffspakt (signed ‘34, violated 1 Sep ‘39);
    • The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact (signed Aug ’39, violated 22 Jun ’41).

    What do you mean by Germany’s “good faith”? The Germans were denied the right of any sovereign representation at Versailles and were forced to sign at gunpoint. They had naively accepted Wilson’s 14 Points and were cynically betrayed. They had every right to abrogate the Versailles agreement. The US Senate, to its credit, refused to ratify it.

    The German-Polish Non-Aggression Pact was violated when Poland accepted the British offer of alliance.

    The annexation of the Sudetenland, along with Slovakian independence, lead to the dissolution of Czeckoslovakia and the creation of an indefensible rump Czechia. What were the Germans supposed to do- let Czechia and its corrupt Benes allow the Soviets to turn it into a Soviet staging ground for the invasion of Germany?

    If you read the accounts of the last meetings between Hitler, Von Ribbentrop and Molotov in November of 1940, it was clear that the Soviets had no intention of abiding by the treaty: they had already annexed the Baltic states. They had invaded Finland. They were planning to move on the Dardanelles and desired to annex the Romanian province of Bukovina, as they had done with Bessarabia.

    In June 1941, the USSR had amassed gigantic armed forces along its western frontiers, including the most powerful army in the world, the 9th Rifle Corps, on the border of Romania in easy striking distance of the Romanian oil fields. It was clear that Stalin was planning a massive invasion of Europe, which involved seizing the Romanian oil, Germany’s only source of crude oil. What was Hitler supposed to do- wait until the Soviet juggernaut struck?

    The theory that Stalin was preparing a massive invasion of Europe for the summer of 1941 is slowly becoming a well established historical consensus. The massive Soviet deployments, which were offensive in nature, were preempted and encircled by the Wehrmacht in the early weeks and months subsequent to Barbarossa and are only explicable in the context of an offensive force in its staging phase being caught by a preemptive strike.

    The Freikorps performed many valuable services, such as ridding Germany of the Communist vermin.

    I would not expect you to understand why Christianity (and most traditional spiritual traditions) abhor usury. Dante placed the usurers in the same circle of the Inferno as the Sodomites for a reason.

  417. Incitatus says:

    “So why did Britain make a promise to Poland it knew it could not fulfill?”

    Simple. To deter Germany from invading, a line in the sand after Hitler broke the Munich Agreement. Hitler invaded anyway.

    Why did Germany make promises to the Allies (Versailles) it knew it wouldn’t fulfil? Promises to Poland (1934) it knew it wouldn’t fulfil? Promises to the Allies (Munich Agreement) it knew it wouldn’t fulfil? Promises to Stalin it knew it wouldn’t fulfil?

    “What do you mean by Germany’s “good faith”? The Germans were denied the right of any sovereign representation at Versailles and were forced to sign at gunpoint. They had naively accepted Wilson’s…”

    What “right of sovereign representation” did Bismarck give France in exacting 5 billion gold francs and Alsace-Lorraine in 1871? What “right of sovereign representation” did Ludendorff give Russia in taking over a million square miles and six billion marks in the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk?

    It’s OK when Germany holds others at “gunpoint”, unfair when they get the same treatment?

    “The German-Polish Non-Aggression Pact was violated when Poland accepted the British offer of alliance.”

    Did England invade Poland? Tell us how the alliance violated the “German-Polish Non-Aggression Pact”. Be specific.

    “If you read the accounts of the last meetings between Hitler, Von Ribbentrop and Molotov in November of 1940, it was clear that the Soviets had no intention of abiding by the treaty…”

    Please forward quotes by principals that support your contention.

    “In June 1941, the USSR had amassed gigantic armed forces along its western frontiers, including the most powerful army in the world, the 9th Rifle Corps, on the border of Romania in easy striking distance of the Romanian oil fields. It was clear that Stalin was planning a massive invasion of Europe… well established historical consensus”

    That’s all you’ve got? “Well established historical consensus”? Where? Codoh? Ernie Zündel’s ‘The Hitler We Loved and Why’? Wally and Mrs. Wally?

    Sources, quotes, documentary proof please. Be careful. You’re standing in pure bullshit.

    “The Freikorps performed many valuable services, such as ridding Germany of the Communist vermin…”

    By “ridding” do you mean murder? Same as Operation Hummingbird in ’34? Same as Aktion T4? Is there a trend?

    Hugo Hasse wasn’t a Communist. He led the Independent Social Democratic Party. Matthias Erzberger belonged to the Catholic Center Party. Walter Rathenau belonged to the German Democratic Party. They weren’t Communists. Were they mistakes? Somebody slip-up at assassination central?

    Were the 354 right-wing murders between January and June 1922 a “valuable service”? That’s an average of over two daily murders. The left-wing couldn’t compete – they murdered 22 during the same period. Here’s a question. Who threatened democracy more: the right-wing (354 kills) or the left-wing (22 kills)? Extra credit: was murder illegal?

    At least you agree the Freikorps illegally supplemented the Reichswehr. Germany violated Versailles from day one.

    “I would not expect you to understand why Christianity (and most traditional spiritual traditions) abhor usury. Dante placed the usurers in the same circle of the Inferno as the Sodomites for a reason.”

    “Usury”? Where’d that come from? Desperate to change the subject? “Dante” and “Sodomites”? Wow! You’re quite a scholar aren’t you?

    Where does Dante place liars, thugs and murderers? Give us a hint.

    Housekeeping:
    • Kindly provide evidence of intent, planning, and action by the “cynical British War Party”, FDR, and “organized international Jewry”. How did they manage to get Hitler to invade most of Europe? Please be specific.
    • I’ve provided direct contemporary quotes. All sourced. Please provide same from those you claim were the real authors of war.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  418. Sam Shama says:
    @Incitatus

    Sincere admiration for your peerless, and, I might add, indefatigable industry, exposing these charlatans for what they are.

    “Where does Dante place liars, thugs and murderers? Give us a hint.”

    Hear hear.

  419. Karl says:
    @renfro

    110 renfro > First of all Israel doesn’t have legal borders

    i’ll mention that to the Jordanian and Egyptian border police

  420. Karl says:
    @Olorin

    120 Olorin > looks like Jackie Chan

    you should see the Bnei Menashe people

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