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Do not regret the results of Israeli elections. They were a non-event. Practically nothing has changed. Indeed many actors had hoped for change, but those hopes had no grounding in reality.

Israel is doing well, even exceedingly well. The country prospers. Despite high taxes, Israeli highways are crowded with new cars; Israeli housewives load their supermarket wagons with food for the Passover as if they prepare to die of overeating. The Israeli shekel is high like cotton in the summer, and all planes are full to the brim with Israeli vacationers. The weather has been playing for the incumbent as well: glorious Palestinian spring had brought out myriads of flowers and the blossom stays over the Holy Land.

In such a situation, people do not vote for change. And anyway, no real change had been offered. The new party of generals, called Blue-and-White, after the colours of Israeli national flag (it’s like calling an American party “Stars and Stripes”, or a British party, “Union Jack”), did not propose anything new. They said they would do the same, only better (or worse, for the Palestinians). The old opposition parties of the Left Zionists, Labour and Meretz, have lost their voters: they migrated to the generals. They anyway had nothing to offer, except more gender disorder and identity politics.

PM Netanyahu demonstrated that he has great support with the superpowers. President Trump presented him with the Golan Heights, a slice of Syrian territory occupied since 1967. President Putin presented him with remains of an Israeli soldier killed in action many years ago in Lebanon. Netanyahu flashed selfies made with the two presidents in his effective campaign; he promised everything to everybody, and carried the lot.

Israelis would be ungrateful if they’d vote against the incumbent, and they knew what was good for them. The generals, and other opponents of Bibi, tried to make something of Netanyahu’s coming indictment for corruption; but the general public was not impressed. Apparently, these charges had been used too much and too often to derail a political enemy, and people stopped paying heed.

I noticed it for the first time years ago in Japan, where a very popular politician Mr Kakuei Tanaka had been jailed for taking a bribe from the Lockheed. A young journalist at that time, I was amazed that the Japanese had remained faithful to the imprisoned politician. They thought that all politicians accept graft; the question is: what else they do? And Tanaka did good for them. While it is possible to mobilise media against a person accused of graft, of harassment, of sexual impropriety, or racism, the people in general do not care much about it: they think (rightly) it is just a trick of political adversaries. SJW used it too often, and completely devalued such accusations.

Israelis did not intend to vote against Mr Netanyahu just because his adversaries appealed to their moral judgement. Anyway, Israelis have very little sense of morality, if any. Netanyahu’s racist jibes against the Arab citizens of Israel stoked no fire in Jewish souls.

The Palestinian question did not play at all in the elections. Millions of imprisoned Palestinians in the world’s largest open jail of Gaza were out of Israeli mind. If they would not send a missile now and there, they would be totally forgotten by their Jewish masters, like medieval prisoners in the cellars of the Bastille. On Israeli TV, they showed a sequence from the Zombie Apocalypse of Zombies storming the wall Israelis erected on their borders – following the pictures of Palestinian demonstrators in Gaza. The message was clear and brutal: for Jews, the Palestinians are Zombies that should be kept beyond the (ever-expanding) walls.

Netanyahu played on the edge of a fault: he pushed the Palestinians to his utmost, and then relented when they were about to explode. This cruel tactic was successful: he bombarded Gaza, and then allowed its inmates to fish in the sea (this prerogative had been withdrawn some months earlier). The Gaza government had planned a series of large demos to mark the anniversary of their Great March of Return. But after an Israeli airstrike, they relented, and no large manifestation was allowed on the border. Palestinians are being killed on the daily basis, but in small numbers; and it is being reported on the bottom page of Israeli newspapers as a thing of little importance.

The main competitor to Netanyahu, the Blue-and-White’s General Gantz boasted in his pre-election videos that he killed thousands of Palestinians; he promised that he wouldn’t relinquish Israeli hold on the Golan Heights. So really important issues weren’t even debated in these elections.

What was debated, then? An obscure point of who belongs to the right, and who belongs to the left. In present Israeli parlance, the leftist is a traitor who cares about Arabs and despises Oriental Jews, and that is obviously a marker to be avoided. Very few Israelis (if at all) admit to having left leanings, a curious turn for a country established and ruled by socialists for many years.

Even people on the fringe of the Jewish Israeli society, the Russian Israelis, were all for Jewish nationalism and against socialism and Arabs. This is really silly. They are hardly considered Jews, to begin with. The Ministry of Interior plans to check them for DNA and whether they are Jewish at all. The Russians are weak economically, and their participation in the national discourse is minimal. There is not a single Russian on the national Israeli TV channels. They have a party of their own, the party of Mr Lieberman. However, the main demands of Mr Lieberman are (1) to bring the death penalty upon Arabs, (2) to bomb and invade Gaza, and (3) to make Mr Lieberman the Minister of Defence. And the Russian Israelis voted for him – or for Mr Netanyahu – anyway.

Israelis of Oriental origins who inhabit poor peripheral towns are similar to Russians. They also vote for Netanyahu and for his nationalist right-wing party, Likud. They are proud they vote against the Ashkenazi Blue-and-White Party, though all leaders of Likud are Ashkenazi Jews.

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This hatred to the Left in the Israeli discourse had caused a comic effect. A few politicians decided to run their own parties called New Right, Union of the Right etc. One of these parties had been led by Mr Feiglin, an ultra-right-wing libertarian (formerly on the fringe of Netanyahu’s Likud) who called for speedy construction of the Third Temple on the place of Al Aqsa Mosque, for dismantling of social state, for legalisation of light drugs, for annexation of the West Bank and mass expulsion of Arabs. The polls predicted he would get seven or eight seats in the parliament. However, this loony agenda was trashed, and he went back to the political wilderness.

Two rather successful right-wing politicians decided to split from their long-established right-wing religious party and created a New Right Party. One of them is good-looking Ayelet Shaked, the Minister of Justice in the last government who flirted with fascism. Another is the Education Minister in the government, the US-born Naftali Bennett. Their trick failed them, and they found themselves out. Apparently, the offer of the right-wing parties exceeded the demand for this product.

Still one ultra-religious and ultra-nationalist right-wing party had made it to parliament, with its demands for enforcing Jewish religious law in its entirety, suppressing the Arabs and worshipping the late Israeli-American terrorists Rabbi Meir Kahane and Dr Baruch Goldstein. They demand the portfolios of Education and Justice (sic!), as they intend to educate the Israeli children in their vein and to undo the power of the Supreme Court.

The Arab parties did not do as well as they did in the last elections, when they ran as single block. The ambitions of Dr Tibi, a popular Arab deputy, had caused the dissolution of the United Arab List, and the Arabs had to choose between two lists. The sum of two was smaller than it was when they run together. Many Israeli Palestinians voted for Meretz and Labour, too, as they noticed that the Jewish parties do not collaborate with Arab deputies and their presence in the parliament has no influence on their daily life.

There is one good guy we shall keep an eye for, a Hebrew University Professor with PhD from LSE, a firebrand communist, a Jew who was elected by Arabs, Dr Offer Cassif. He compares the Zionists with the Nazis, calls for One State, for the Right of Return, for full equality of a Jew and Goy. At first, he was banned from participation in the elections, but the Supreme Court allowed him to run and he got in. He can be compared to the only righteous man in the Israeli Sodom (Genesis 18) and the only hope of the Knesset to survive the wrath of God.

Now with the elections are finally behind, Netanyahu will have the hard job of making a coalition government that will survive his forthcoming indictment. His partners are perfectly willing to play ball, and to legislate a Netanyahu Is Untouchable Law, but for a price. They will agree on a price, too, do not worry, it is the Israeli public that will pay the price, but they knew it when they voted like they did.

Is there a chance to change things in Israel, with such a Parliament? Well, yes. A military defeat can change minds, like it did in many countries many times. Otherwise, it is hard to imagine what would cause Netanyahu to change his course in view of the US support, Saudi friendship, Syrian weakness, and good election results. He is not for resolving conflicts, he is for managing conflict, and he is doing that well.

Russia’s Putin plays ball with Bibi, too. Perhaps he does not like Bibi’s relentless attacks on Syria, perhaps his heart goes for Palestinians, but he is a cautious statesman, and he does not want to antagonise the man who can mobilise American Jews into an action against Russia. There are enough American Jews against Russia and against Putin as things are; Putin does not need more. Besides, the Israeli opposition is not keen on Putin; they are lining up with the US Democrats and with Brussels Europeans. They called for direct intervention in Syria on the side of ‘moderate rebels’, while Netanyahu had kept Israel out of Syrian War and did not obstruct Putin’s Syrian campaign.

Will Netanyahu annex the whole of the West Bank, as he said during the election campaign? Probably not; as nothing will be obtained by such an act but making apartheid visible. Instead, he is likely to annex every place where Jews live in the West Bank, turning the territory of Palestine into a slug-eaten cabbage leaf. He also may annex Area C, a bigger part of Palestinian territory presently under Israeli military control and Palestinian civilian administration. The Jewish settlers demand it, for, they say, Palestinians damage the contiguity of the Jewish settlements.

The Jewish religious parties came out stronger in the new parliament. They also enjoy a very high natural growth with families of 5 to 8 children average. They are not eager to compete on the labour market, and prefer to be paid for studying Talmud and having kids. While it may annoy some Israelis, in my view, it is an internal issue of little interest or importance for anybody outside the Jewish milieu.

Is there a possible solution for the conflict? It is definitely not the Deal of the Century of Mr Jared Kushner, some yet undefined arrangement usually done with smoke and mirrors. Probably One Democratic State, where Jews and non-Jews are equal, is the only possible solution, as the place is too small to divide but large enough to share.

Israel Shamir can be reached at [email protected]

This article was first published at The Unz Review.

 
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  1. no, Shamir: by and by, there will be an

    Israel w/o Arabs, or a Palestine w/o Jews. Same as

    there will be a North America that is White,

    or one where Whites have been exterminated.

    both – thanks to the Jews – are now zero-sum situations.

  2. Lot says:

    “There is one good guy we shall keep an eye for, a Hebrew University Professor with PhD from LSE, a firebrand communist, a Jew who was elected by Arabs, Dr Offer Cassif. He compares the Zionists with the Nazis, calls for One State, for the Right of Return,”

    What a surprise, an Unzie antisemite endorses a communist who explicitly wants to Muslimify the Holy Land.

  3. wayfarer says:

    Jewish Supremacists and Racial Demographic Hypocrisy

  4. TKK says:

    Russia’s Putin plays ball with Bibi, too. Perhaps he does not like Bibi’s relentless attacks on Syria, perhaps his heart goes for Palestinians

    That’s hilarious. You think ice blood Putin waxes tender over dirty illiterate medieval Arabs that not even other Arab countries want to absorb? Aside from his mercenary and financial agreement with the mentally ill sociopath Ramzan Kadyrov – do you understand how rank and file Muslims are treated in Russia? With an iron fist- as they should be.

    You are delusional.

    • Troll: AnonStarter
    • Replies: @ploni almoni
    , @MEFOBILLS
  5. Is there any solution left except a One State solution which takes a leaf out of the designs of early colonial democracies? The early parliamentary Upper Houses – often called Legislative Councils – were elected only by those who owned property in land of a specified value. The contemporary prescription would be that the only voters were citizens who had been net taxpayers for at least X years (i.e. net of welfare payments). No problem about the Palestinians’ superior fertility for well over 100 years!. What’s more it would reduce the power of the Jewish religious right.

  6. One Democratic State, where Jews and non-Jews are equal

    Listen to several notables examples in the video below. One Democratic State will not happen when both Israeli liberals and conservatives believe in Tikkun Olam and their supremacy over ALL mankind. Obviously, with Netanyahu’s reelection, the status quo of Palestinian ethnic cleansing is acceptable for the majority. If it was not, there would have been a massive assault on the Likud party as was the case when the Diaspora focused their attention on destroying de Klerk in South Africa.

    They currently rule using both their Sabbatean holocaustianity and the chaos of rabbinical quadruple talk. They dictate themselves as gods and the rest of humanity must prostrate to them without question. The only way to stop this insanity is to boycott their enablers which are all the countries dominated by Usury, Sodomy, and Abortion (USA).

  7. You’ve pretty much convinced me, Mr. Shamir, as it’s in accordance with what I see, but amplified and made understandable through your expertise.

    Thanks!

  8. None of this lean right is hard to understand. In the region there conflicts and threatened conflicts, and destabilization.

    All of that breeds fear and security concerns. Any incumbent, would in such environments.

  9. swamped says:

    “Do not regret the results of Israeli elections. They were a non-event. Practically nothing has changed. Indeed many actors had hoped for change, but those hopes had no grounding in reality.”
    These Israeli elections were the most momentous in history. With them, the always iffy “peace process” is finally & irreversibly at an end. The Trump (i.e. Kushner)Plan can now be unveiled, which undoubtedly will be a completion of the annexation process begun earlier with Jerusalem &the Golan Heights. With Saudi Arabia on board & Egypt lacking any Nasser, there is nothing to stop it. Offer Cassiff can howl all he wants, it only calls attention to the complete powerlessness of any opposition to such high-handed theft by Israel; just like Ilhan Omar’s caterwauling calls attention to the complete lack of Democratic opposition to Trump’s backing of it.
    So we’re reduced to whimpering about “One Democratic State, where Jews and non-Jews are equal, is the only possible solution”, which even the author knows there is a snowball’s chance in Gaza of that ever happening.

  10. @Lot

    What a surprise, an Unzie antisemite endorses a communist who explicitly wants to Muslimify the Holy Land.

    Whose definition of “Holy?” Certainly not God’s definition.

    Twice in history He has had to destroy the Jewish Temple, and no doubt He will do it a third time.

    “The city of Sodom, wherein our Lord was crucified.” [Revelation Chapter 11: 8]

  11. @Lot

    Jews are not that Semetic genetically, though certainly linguistically, and not as much as Palestinians in both cases. And the Talmud is anti everyone, in letter and spirit – that is what exceptionalism (fascism) buys you. Hence why Israel doesn’t follow laws set by the world community!

    • Replies: @Miggle
    , @MEFOBILLS
  12. What a surprise, an Unzie antisemite endorses a communist who explicitly wants to Muslimify the Holy Land.

    What a surprise, Lottie the Chosen whines about a truth teller who explicitly wants justice to reign the Stolen Land.

    • Agree: Miggle
  13. Something else came to naught. Lot!

    Enjoy!

    Israeli Lander Failure Marks 1st Moon Crash in 48 Years

    In 1966, the USSR became the first country to achieve a soft landing on the moon with Luna 9

  14. Herald says:
    @Lot

    “What a surprise, an Unzie antisemite endorses a communist who explicitly wants to Muslimify the Holy Land.” Why would you have a problem with that?

    • Replies: @Michael
  15. Sean says:

    As a highly successful businessman who brought in constructed building faster and cheaper than anyone else, Trump was notorious for telling contractors that they had to take less than they had bargained for or he would pull out and they would get nothing. Israeli PM Ehud Barak said “Every attempt [by the State of Israel] to keep hold of this area [the West Bank and Gaza] as one political entity leads, necessarily, to either a nondemocratic or a non-Jewish state. Because if the Palestinians vote, then it is a binational state, and if they don’t vote it is an apartheid state.”. Palestinians saw Ehud Barak’s Camp David offer as a sign things were going their way and, instead of taking and building on his proffered final settlement, made a flat rejection yet still tried to have it both ways. When Barak tried to begin a new round of negotiations at Taba, he found the Palestinians were treating his previous deal as already conceded and the baseline from which to negotiate further concessions. They are a militarily defeated people, who think that all they have to do is sit tight and everything will be laid at their feet. Well it won’t, and it is time for them to realise they need to be satisfied with less, or get nothing at all.

    Mearsheimer ended the panel with a warning to the Palestinian people. “Palestinians must never underestimate the danger of mass expulsion at the hand of the Israelis. That is the cardinal lesson of the Nakba,” he said

    The pro immigration fanatics at the New Yorker hate Trump, yet they are hardly less Jewish than the neocons.

    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/04/22/the-trump-netanyahu-alliance
    For two years, meanwhile, Trump has talked about “a secret plan” to resolve the Israeli-Arab problem. The plan is likely to call for enormous Palestinian concessions, which the Palestinians will almost certainly reject. That will allow Netanyahu to operate without constraint, and either continue to manage the status quo or make good on his intimations of annexation.

    Trump needed to win World War Immigration against the American ruling class so he made an ally of military Zionism, and the Jewish Diaspora component of the US elite are having to (passive-aggressively) go along with it. Netanyahu got one massive gift after another and he is now talking about annexation. He is hardly going to annex the West Bank with its Palestinian problem permanently in it. No, the Palestinians are going to be offered a deal a la Trump that is hardly than the one they rejected from Ehud Barak. And they know if they turn it down they will be subject to being transferred back to Jordan, which is the country that the West Bank belonged to until Jordan started shelling East Jerusalem in 1967 and–like Syria–started a war entailing unlimited teritorial liability. When West Bank Arabs (“Palestinians”) travel abroad they do so on Jordanian passports, unless they want to live in Jordan they should lower their expectations.

    • Replies: @AnonStarter
  16. He can be compared to the only righteous man in the Israeli Sodom (Genesis 18) and the only hope of the Knesset to survive the wrath of God.

    Are we taking about the same God that ordered Joshua to rock into Jericho and kill absolutely everyone? Anyone who reads the bible will conclude that God’s sympathies are entirely with the hard-line right.

    Probably One Democratic State, where Jews and non-Jews are equal, is the only possible solution, as the place is too small to divide but large enough to share.

    Nonsense! There is another solution. A final one. “Resettle” every non-Jew into the Gaza strip, them bomb it to smithereens and send the tanks and soldiers in to kill ’em all. Every last one. And then there will finally be peace. Well – once the neighbours are dealt with, anyway. There’s plenty of zionists who would be quite ready to fire up a modernised version of The Ovens, who believe that “Never Again” means “Never again will it be done to us“.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    , @Grace Poole
  17. Sean says:

    Probably One Democratic State, where Jews and non-Jews are equal, is the only possible solution

    That might be a solution, but as Conor Cruise O’Brien noted in this connection: conflicts don’t have solutions: they have outcomes.

  18. Miggle says:

    Anyway, Israelis have very little sense of morality, if any.

    This is not news, but the more often it’s said, the better, the more hope. Thanks.

    There is one good guy we shall keep an eye for, a Hebrew University Professor with PhD from LSE, a firebrand communist, a Jew who was elected by Arabs, Dr Offer Cassif. He compares the Zionists with the Nazis, calls for One State, for the Right of Return, for full equality of a Jew and Goy. At first, he was banned from participation in the elections, but the Supreme Court allowed him to run and he got in. He can be compared to the only righteous man in the Israeli Sodom (Genesis 18) and the only hope of the Knesset to survive the wrath of God.

    It’s great that he won a seat, sad that he’s the only one. But, sadly, he will be ignored.

    That a candidate can be banned is I think a mark of Israel’s closed party list electoral system, very undemocratic in its fundamentals.

    Taking a seat in the Knesset is Sodomizing?

  19. mcohen says:

    As long as the bus driver has his shit together everyone will come along for the ride.
    Israel with the right leadership will deliver and the arabs know this.dignity and jobs will win the day.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  20. @Lot

    Read Albert Rosenberg’s “Myth of the Twentieth Century” and get rid of all Judeo/Christian thought. Just run your life on a good moral code and you’ll be fine.

  21. Miggle says:
    @Lot

    … endorses a communist who explicitly wants to Muslimify the Holy Land.

    I’m an Islamophobe, but the reality is that the indigenous people are Muslims. The Holy Land is a Muslim land. They have the right to be the owners of their land, and to vote. Throwing in a religious slur, when to Muslimify is obviously better than to Judaify, morally superior despite Islam’s flaws, and when it is their land … what a surprise!

    One state with equal rights for all is the only proper way to go. To say that means Muslimify is hardly an impartial comment. Islam for all its flaws is reformed Judaism, Judaism without the “traditions” that Jesus denounced. It has great respect for Jesus, while Judaism hates Him.

    The whole of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip need to be annexed, not gradually as gradual genocide succeeds, but all at once.

    The resulting state, call it Israel, will look after refugee return in its own good time. That is only an issue in connection with a two state solution, and any such thing is dead. Except for the corrupt PA. Abbas must go before any progress can be made.

    You sound like a brainwashed American, taught to regard a communist as demonic. Learn more about the rulers who brainwashed you. If you are in need of hospital care, move to Cuba.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @Lot
    , @Michael
  22. @Lot

    Only a surprise to one whose head may only recently have been extricated from the a*****le of MSM

  23. Am grateful for another educational offering on Israel’s politics by Israel Shamir.

    Nonetheless, & respectfully, I take issue with Mr. Shamir who wrote, “not keen with Putin… the Israeli opposition lined up with US Democrats & Brussels Europeans, called for direct intervention in Syria on the side of ‘moderate rebels,’ while Netanyahu had kept Israel out of Syrian War and did not obstruct Putin’s Syrian campaign.”

    Of course, Mr. Shamir knows about Netanyahu’s IDF battlefield incursion-assignments which provided health care for wounded & so-called Syrian moderate rebels. Please refer to RT video, an example linked below?

    Lastly, I don’t quite know what Israel Shamir calls the “daring” 😟 Israeli jet fighter missile strike (inside Syria) which resulted in the killing of Russian airmen. Nonetheless, given Putin’s “soft” response, some pissed-off Russian generals began to demand Putin “stand down” when it comes to Israeli warplane killings of Russians deployed in Syria’s war theater.

    A triumphant Palm Sunday “thanks” to all U.R. commenters assembled here!

    • Agree: L.K
  24. Miggle says:
    @Ilya G Poimandres

    Jews are not Semitic genetically, and certainly not linguistically, though the Israelis have resurrected a dead Semitic language. You seem to say the Palestinians are Semitic both genetically and linguistically. I believe that is correct, and the rest of what you write is. Thanks.

    • Replies: @MEFOBILLS
  25. annamaria says:
    @Lot

    You mean, he wants to bring in the Ishmaelites, the Jewish first-born cousins? That would be a change next to the Turkish-looking Avi and Polish-looking Bibi.

    • Replies: @Lot
    , @Turul
  26. annamaria says:

    “Israelis have very little sense of morality, if any.”

    — And this signifies the end of the holohaux-biz.

  27. der einzige says: • Website

    There is a simple solution – come back from where you came, even to Novosibirsk.

    Douglas Reed – The Controversy of Zion
    https://www.controversyofzion.info/Controversybook/reeedcontrov.pdf

  28. anarchyst says:
    @Dave from Oz

    It was “never” done to the jews in the first place. The holohoax (oops, I mean “holocaust”) is the greatest fraud at the hand of the jews that the world has ever seen.
    “Never again” should be the world’s battle cry after Israel is turned into a glass parking lot.

  29. @Miggle

    I’m an Islamophobe, but the reality is that the indigenous people are Muslims.

    I’m not an Islamophobe, but the goof is whining that Muslims (and other decent people), for the reason you point out above, understandably would want to un-un-Muslimify the region. But Lot, named after a dude who was seduced by his daughters, prefers to have it perverted.

    As for the variety of communism you addressed, I bet he doesn’t understand that it was funded and otherwise supported by certain international bankster buggers for their ends and theirs only. Same goes for his wunnerful sicko state of Israel. Any peon or pissant (such as the Lots of the world) who supports it is clearly a dupe, an idiot of questionable usefulness if any.

    While I know nothing about Abbas, you’re probably correct in that if he were not corrupt, the Izzie goons wouldn’t tolerate him for a second.

    • Agree: ChuckOrloski
  30. @Dave from Oz

    There’s plenty of zionists who would be quite ready to fire up a modernised version of The Ovens, who believe that “Never Again” means “Never again will it be done to us“.

    Jewry’s major annual Never Again celebrations:

    Who gains, Who kills, Who dies?

    Passover: Hebrews steal treasure from Egyptians, leave the state that had afforded them growth and prosperity for ~400 years.

    The “angels of the Jewish lord” kill the first-born of Egyptian children and Egyptian leadership killed but “pass over” Jewish people.

    Purim: Yehudi / Jews prostitute subverts government of Persians who had liberated and financially & politically supported Yehudi; Jews take over government and treasury of Persia.

    Jews kill foreign minister and his sons, Jews kill 75,000 innocent Persians.

    Balfour Day (formerly; Nov 2). Zionist Jews commemorate British giving Jews “a homeland in Palestine.”

    Indigenous Palestinians are dispossessed, killed, imprisoned.
    Jewish zionist terror gangs bomb, attack, Lynch British who are guarding the land.

    Holocaust Remembrance Day (May 1 – 2) Zionist Jews overrun Palestine, migrating hundreds of thousands, now millions, of Jews to the lands of Palestinians who are dispossessed.

    Jews foment wars that result in the deaths of tens of millions in Russia, Poland, Germany, then Iraq, Iran, and hundreds of thousands in Lebanon, Syria.

    Anyone else see a pattern in this Never Again battle-cry?

  31. @TKK

    Are you looking in a mirror?

  32. ‘Probably One Democratic State, where Jews and non-Jews are equal, is the only possible solution, as the place is too small to divide but large enough to share.’

    To be frank, my guess is that the time when this could have worked is long past.

    The Jews have spent seventy years tormenting — and that is the right word for it — the Palestinian people.

    Can you imagine the hate? The Jews can. If there’s ever any prospect of the Palestinians gaining political and military power — of there being Palestinians with tanks and M-16’s — the Jews are dead.

    Most will have the wisdom to flee as soon as this possibility becomes apparent. That will only ensure the doom of the diminished remainder. A few hundred thousand Zionist fanatics clinging to a bankrupt illusion will have no role to play but that of victims for the enraged mob.

    They’ll be torn limb from limb — and what else should happen? The Palestinians aren’t saints; they’re not going to start hugging the bunnies with their suddenly repentant oppressors. They’re average people, and they’ll do what average people do.

  33. IstvanIN says:

    I am not a fan of the Jews but I do respect the Israelis desire to survive and thrive. I wish the West had the same desire.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Colin Wright
  34. MEFOBILLS says:
    @Ilya G Poimandres

    that is what exceptionalism (fascism) buys you.

    Fascism does not imply exceptionalism. You have been implanted with a false memory.

    It is a strong dictatorial or autocratic control, as defined by Webster’s.

    If you actually look at Mussolini’s fascism, Italian people of that era loved it. That era was trying to deal with sudden impact of industrial revolution, which was displacing workers, and building up finance oligarchy.

    The parallels to today are there if one looks. Some of the same solutions done in fascist Italy were also done in U.S. under Roosevelt, for example direct pumping of money into the base of the economy – meaning demand side stimulus.

    It is hard to do demand side stimulus if you don’t seize the money power. The money powers fight back whenever you take their privilege away, and these same powers issue hypnosis to implant you with false memories.

    FDR had to do some draconian things, and so did the Italians.

  35. I decided to check upon demographic situation on Israel. It appears that Israeli woman on average has 3 kids just about same as Palestinian woman. Considering this no way Palestinians are going to get anything. I think Russia should seriously pay attention to how Israel manages to have this 3 per woman average. Israel is probably the only developed country with population growing via births and no immigration. What are they doing right?

    • Replies: @renfro
    , @Colin Wright
  36. MEFOBILLS says:
    @TKK

    Aside from his mercenary and financial agreement with the mentally ill sociopath Ramzan Kadyrov – do you understand how rank and file Muslims are treated in Russia?

    Chechen leaders came to Putin. They persuaded Putin that they had been duped by Wahhabi Sunni money that had been flooding into the country, to then build up madrassas.

    One also has to understand that the Saudi’s are part of the Globalist Cabal, and the Takfiri menace are merely foot-soldiers of the cabal.

    Rank and file Muslims are allowed a measure of control over their own civilization in Russia, and the agreement was that they would be protected within the Russian state.

    Putin’s answer to the Chechen leaders (Kadyrov’s dad included if memory serves) was OK, I believe you are being sincere, and as a man I will take you at your honor.

    It turns out that Putin was correct. The Muslims in Russia are not restive, nor are they following Takfiri dictates of the (((international))) globalist finance class, who in turn is in bed with Wahhabism.

    Rank and file Muslims that immigrate to Moscow or other Western cities, to then drive down wages are an irritant to the more western white people in those regions.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  37. trump needs kneepads and lots of chapstick

  38. @MEFOBILLS

    Dear MEFOBILLS,*

    Definitely not average “Homelander’s” fault for not knowing, but in 2017, President Putin deployed Special Forces Chechens to do battle in Israel’s Western Zionist war designed to topple Syria’s President Basher Assad. 🤗

    Please look at corresponding article, linked below?

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/05/04/putin-has-a-new-secret-weapon-in-syria-chechens/

    * Uh, me? Charles J. Orloski, Jr., I am not FO BILLS.☺️

    • Replies: @MEFOBILLS
  39. MEFOBILLS says:
    @Miggle

    Jews are not Semitic genetically, and certainly not linguistically, though the Israelis have resurrected a dead Semitic language.

    Most educated people are aware Khazar King Bulan adopted Judaism, which then gave rise to Ashkenazi Jews.

    These Ashkanazi’s then migrated westward toward Germany, creating Germanic language Yiddish.

    After Zionism and Rothschild merged, Ashkenazi returned to Palestine, and then called it Israel.

    In other words, the new Israel is not the old Israel, and the new people are not the old people.

    Hypnosis is in words, so you have to look past words and toward real meanings. It is better to call today’s Israel as Zion. The people of Zion are not Israel.

    Khazars were and are a Turkic people, but if you look closely at their genetics, it is heavily neanderthalic.

    The same goes for Semite speakers of the middle east. A neanderthalic phenotype is a heavily sloping brow, long torso, short legs, barrel shaped chest, higher voice than cro-maganon, and a flat brain pan. They also have a lot of body hair, which is why you see middle eastern semites that are hairy, despite hot climates selecting against body hair.

    So, yes, Ashkenazi have absorbed cro-magnon dna, but back in King Bulan’s time, they had more in common genetically with middle eastern semites, than they did with more Cro-Magnon Westerners.

    The reason today’s Zion resurrected a dead language, was to dupe you into thinking they are same as the old Israel, who spoke Hebrew.

    Today’s Jews DO absorb genetics of those they live among as an evolutionary trait. This is fundamental to Jewish power.

    For example, you can look at the physiognomy of English Kings, and they get suspiciously dark and Sephardic looking after Orange King revolution. The parasite had moved in and bred into its host.

    Hitler referred to Jews as a race, because of Jewish selective behavior. Alfred Rosenberg referred to them as a parasitic “anti-race.”

    See “The track of the Jew through the ages,” by Alfred Rosenberg.

  40. Interesting collection of observations. Shamir has a brilliant mind. But he errs when he claims that “[greater Israel] is too small to divide but large enough to share.”

    Israel’s non-existent endgame of ‘sharing’ territory with the Palestinians is pure fantasy.

    At this late date, no prominent Israeli leader is advocating for the ‘division’ of greater Israel. In fact, the tide has been going in the very opposite direction for the past two two decades. Even the once-vaunted ‘peace process’ has been declared dead by all parties. What’s to bring it back to life? There is nothing on the horizon.

    Israel will certainly not be sharing any ‘Jewish land’ with the gentiles that they have conquered.–At least not voluntarily.

    There’s not only too much bitterness, but Israel is holding all the cards. Jewish hubris is at a peak. Zionists not only have Jerusalem as their capitol now, but Trump has rewarded them with the Syria’s Golan. Jewish power is rising.

    Besides, Zionists do not want an integrated society and they never have. That’s for the goyim.

    There will be no ‘Palestinian State’ outside of Jordan.

    Therefore, Israel’s slow-motion evaporation/genocide of the native gentiles will continue. (Has it ever really ceased?)

    Top on Israel’s agenda is the final conquest of Palestine. Admittedly, the Zions have not quite figured out how to get rid of the indigenous gentiles cleanly. But they’re working on it. Earnestly.

    Thus Meir Kahane was prophetic.

    The final solution to the ‘Palestinian problem’ will require more Israeli expulsions, more cruelty, and increased ethnic cleansing. It will proceed. There will eventually be a mass transfer. (Or a mass killing).

    All it takes for Kahane’s goal to be achieved is for Israel to continue its ‘hard line’ on the Palestinians.

    Hard line = grinding down.

    Thus, expect continued Israeli house demolitions, territorial annexations, Jews Only settlements, ‘shootings to maim’ (but not necessarily kill), and periodic bombing missions when a Hamas missile goes POOF near a Jewish settlement.

    Israel’s game plan: raise the Palestinian ‘misery index’ incrementally but steadily.

    This is the long-term the Israeli formula. Progress is being made.

    Israel’s unfinished conquest/expansion will simply take more time. Perhaps decades longer. That’s all.

    But it is on track.

    • Agree: Cloak And Dagger
  41. MEFOBILLS says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Charles,

    I am not sure what you are trying to convey.

    Everybody who is aware, knows that Chechen’s were deployed in Syria. Your link conveys no new information and supports what I am saying.

    Chechens in Syria mean they buy into the construct that Putin has helped deliver for their people .

    After the separatist wars of the 90’s Russia (under Putin) deployed money to rebuild Chechnia, hardly the act of a government hostile to its internal Muslims.

    Note also, it was Saudi on the other side in Syria, where Chechen fighters are fighting against Takfiri Wahabi Islam.

    • Agree: ChuckOrloski
  42. renfro says:
    @Sergey Krieger

    The majority child births in Israel come from the ultra-Orthodox Jews. They are the group that doesnt work and spends their lives studying their holy books.
    They exist on government stipends,(resented by the working jews)
    I think the gov now requires some of them to do some part time work.
    The average Palestine birth rate is 4 per woman.

  43. Lot says:
    @Miggle

    “The Holy Land is a Muslim land. They have the right to be the owners of their land”

    Be cause they conquered it around 680AD, and again by Saladin from the Crusaders? Jews conquered it around 1000BC (historic evidence from Egypt of the Davidian kingdom) and again in 1949/67. Jews also held the land the longest overall, though at times as Greek/Roman vassals.

    Ultimately, the laws of nature providing the right of conquest here are in alignment with God’s assignment of the land to Jews.

    Palis are Arabs and belong in Arabia, not Judea.

    • LOL: Grace Poole
  44. Lot says:
    @annamaria

    Bibi is about 60% European, but he is the patrilineal heir of the ancient Jews and honors their traditions.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Colin Wright
  45. In my back, 🤔9/11 Inside job responded to me: “Charles,
    I am not sure what you are trying to convey.
    Everybody who is aware, knows that Chechen’s were deployed in Syria. Your link conveys no new information and supports what I am saying.

    Yo 9/11 Inside job!

    You and I ought make peace at this dangerous juncture where in comment #41, Mark Green articulately offered all forsaken Homelanders the fact that, “Zionists not only have Jerusalem as their capitol now, but Trump has rewarded them with the Syria’s Golan. Jewish power is rising.”

    Let’s start over, Brother 9/11 Inside job? Fyi, in my previous comment, I was not teaching you one fucking thing.😐 So Long Live & Rise of the Zionist Jew Resistance!

  46. @Sean

    In the words of Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin, just as in 1956, “In June 1967 we again had a choice. The Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him.”

    https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2017/06/05/who-started-the-six-day-war-of-june-1967/

    • Replies: @Sean
  47. Wally says:
    @IstvanIN

    said:
    “I do respect the Israelis desire to survive and thrive”

    But always at the great expense of others.

    You “respect” that?

  48. @Sergey Krieger

    ‘…Israel is probably the only developed country with population growing via births and no immigration. What are they doing right?

    They have an enormous population of religious nut-jobs who refuse to work, collect welfare, and have up to twenty children per woman.

    If that sounds ‘right’ to you, perhaps you can imitate them. Your future will be bright.

  49. @IstvanIN

    ‘I am not a fan of the Jews but I do respect the Israelis desire to survive and thrive…’

    Zionists usually say something along those lines. A simpler formulation is ‘I’m not a Zionist, but…’

    Save time and use that.

  50. @Lot

    ‘The Holy Land is a Muslim land. They have the right to be the owners of their land”

    Be cause they conquered it around 680AD, and again by Saladin from the Crusaders? Jews conquered it around 1000BC (historic evidence from Egypt of the Davidian kingdom) and again in 1949/67. Jews also held the land the longest overall, though at times as Greek/Roman vassals.

    Ultimately, the laws of nature providing the right of conquest here are in alignment with God’s assignment of the land to Jews…’

    Aside from the detail your post is largely fantasy to begin with, ‘the Jews’ you refer to eventually converted to Islam and Christianity and are today known as ‘Palestinians.’

    …but you prefer to omit that. It wrecks your whole argument.

    • Agree: wayfarer
  51. Bibi is about 60% European, but he is the patrilineal heir of the ancient Jews and honors their traditions.

    Traditionally they despise and parasitize us dumb goyim, so you finally appear to have a legitimate point.

    Btw, what would you think if Trump’s daughter seduced him? Would that be traditional or what?

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  52. Sean says:
    @AnonStarter

    True. But Jordan was not attacked until it after it deliberately opened hostilities with Israel by shelling East Jerusalem. There is no such thing as a limited liability war, especially if you are the aggressor. Expulsion of the West Bank Arabs would simply be returning them to their own country; Jordan, the already existing Palestinian state.

    • Replies: @AnonStarter
    , @Colin Wright
  53. @jacques sheete

    Ha-ha-ha-ha! Jacques Sheete asked: “Btw, what would you think if Trump’s daughter seduced him (Netanyahu)?”

    Ha-ha-ha! What would Jared do? WWJD?Ha-ha-ha!

    While doing his obligatory homage at The Wailing Wall, maybe Democrat preZidential candidate, Pete Buttigieg, will try to seduce Bibi? 🙌

    Thanks a lot, Brother Jacques!

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  54. Blake says:

    Time to make it Palestine again.

  55. annamaria says:
    @Lot

    “Bibi is about 60% European…”

    — And what allows you to make such a pronouncement with an air of authority?
    The native Palestinians are the true descendants of the ancient Jews. Bibi and Avi and the majority of others are squatters.

    As for any permutations of the word “honor” re Bibi, it should be “dishonor” or the “lack of honor.”

    Here is Bibi’s “gift to humanity” reflecting on Bibi’s family and on the total lack of moral fiber among all members of this family of Polish squatters in Palestine:

    ” Even big kids say what they hear at home.”

    In the recording, Yair Netanyahu and his friends recount their night out on the town and make disparaging comments about strippers, waitresses and other women, including one of Netanyahu’s former girlfriends.

    Yair is also heard drunkenly bragging to the son of an Israeli oil tycoon about how the prime minister advanced a bill in parliament that delivered billions of dollars to his friend’s father … “My dad got a great deal for your dad,” Yair Netanyahu told him. “Bro, you have to be nice to me. Bro, my dad got your dad a sweet deal, he fought for it at the Knesset, bro.”

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-yair-netanyahu-strip-club-20180112-story.html

    “My dad set up 20 billion dollars for your dad, and you’re fighting with me about 400 shekels ?” said Yair upon leaving the strip club. Netanyahu later said the 400 shekels was for a prostitute.

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/yair-netanyahu-to-gas-tycoon-s-son-my-father-set-up-20b-for-your-father-1.5729974

    If this family is the” heir of the ancient Jews” who “honors their traditions” then who on earth needs these traditions?

  56. @Sean

    >But Jordan was not attacked until it after it deliberately opened hostilities with Israel by shelling East Jerusalem.

    Jordan and Egypt had a mutual defense treaty prior to Israel’s offensive against Nasser, which triggered the shelling.

    And the “Jordan is Palestine” tripe ain’t gonna sell here, Dr. Sean:

    Jordan and Palestine Remain Separate Entities

    To the Editor:

    H. Z. Bornstein asserts (letter, Sept. 2) that Transjordan constituted Eastern Palestine, the eastern province of the British mandate in Palestine, until 1946.

    However, from the end of World War I in November 1918 until April 1920, the territory called Jordan was part of the Arab kingdom of Syria, established between the demise of the Ottoman Empire and the assertion of Western control over Ottoman lands. In April 1920, the San Remo peace conference, which formally ended the war, assigned France a mandate over Syria and Britain a mandate over Palestine, an area then considered to include the lands both east and west of the Jordan River.

    In March 1921, Britain offered Emir Abdullah, the grandfather of King Hussein, the governance of the area east of the Jordan River, which became known as Transjordan – the area across the Jordan from Palestine – and this area was considered thereafter as separate from Palestine. Thus, in July 1922, when the League of Nations formally confirmed Britain’s mandate over Palestine, Transjordan was excluded from the Palestine mandate and from Britain’s promise to assist in the establishment of a Jewish homeland in Palestine. In 1946, Britain granted Transjordan independence, and in 1949 the country was renamed the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan.

    Israel and many of its American supporters have asserted that ”Jordan is Palestine” and that the Palestinians should be satisfied to seek fulfillment of their national aspirations in Jordan and leave all of Palestine to Israel. But the history of Transjordan-Jordan shows that except for 11 months when Jordan was carelessly thrown together with Palestine by Western powers interested only in their own colonial aggrandizement, no one – least of all the Arabs – has ever seriously regarded Jordan and Palestine as parts of the same entity.

    KATHLEEN CHRISTISON

    Santa Fe, N.M., Sept. 2, 1990

  57. Lot says:
    @annamaria

    They have genetic tests now, look it up. Talk here about “Khazers” show people are not up to date. It was a reasonable theory, but tests disprived it, Ashkenazi are most closely related to Northern Italians and Italian Jews, but also have a strong Levantine component.

    The closest people to the ancient Jews are Samaritans and Syrian Jews. Druze and Greek Jews are also quite close.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @annamaria
  58. @annamaria

    Arguing with a Zionist is like wrestling a pig; you get all hot and dirty, and the Zionist just enjoys it.

    They lie; it follows from being a Zionist. That’s all you need to know.

  59. The Israeli Elections Came to Naught

    That’s not true. Israeli voters confirmed their support for the suicidal course Netanyahu was pursuing.

  60. @annamaria

    ‘…” Even big kids say what they hear at home.”

    In the recording, Yair Netanyahu and his friends recount their night out on the town and make disparaging comments about strippers, waitresses and other women, including one of Netanyahu’s former girlfriends…’

    That actually brings up something that is well-obscured but definitely there; the Israeli Jewish taste for violent physical abuse of women and white slavery.

    …of course, given how Sara Netanyahu terrorizes Bibi, that’s almost comic. Obviously, that particular little (pun unintended but happily noticed) prick has met his match.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  61. @Lot

    …God’s assignment of the land to Jews.

    Thanks for the laughs.

    Seriously??? Tsk, tsk.

  62. @ChuckOrloski

    Ha-ha-ha-ha! Jacques Sheete asked: “Btw, what would you think if Trump’s daughter seduced him (Netanyahu)?”

    Traditionally the non-goy girls sleep with their father. Lot oughta know a lot about that.

    30 Lot left Zoar and went into the mountains to live with his two daughters; he was afraid to stay in Zoar. He lived in a cave with his daughters.

    31-32 One day the older daughter said to the younger, “Our father is getting old and there’s not a man left in the country by whom we can get pregnant. Let’s get our father drunk with wine and lie with him. We’ll get children through our father—it’s our only chance to keep our family alive.”

    33-35 They got their father drunk with wine that very night. The older daughter went and lay with him. He was oblivious, knowing nothing of what she did. The next morning the older said to the younger, “Last night I slept with my father. Tonight, it’s your turn.

    We’ll get him drunk again and then you sleep with him.

    We’ll both get a child through our father and keep our family alive.” So that night they got their father drunk again and the younger went in and slept with him. Again he was oblivious, knowing nothing of what she did.

    36-38 Both daughters became pregnant by their father, Lot. The older daughter had a son and named him Moab, the ancestor of the present-day Moabites. The younger daughter had a son and named him Ben-Ammi, the ancestor of the present-day Ammonites.

    Genesis 19:30-38

    They musta been some ugly mamas; had to get the old geezer drunk enough to do the deed. Can you imagine anyone naming their kid after that dude? Something’s wrong somewhere…

  63. @Lot

    They have genetic tests now, look it up.

    You made that comment with the air of authority as well. What do you know about it anyway?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Lot
  64. @jacques sheete

    ‘You made that comment with the air of authority as well. What do you know about it anyway?’

    He knows the fix is in. Why do you ask?

  65. @Lot

    ‘Bibi is about 60% European, but he is the patrilineal heir of the ancient Jews and honors their traditions.’

    Bibi looks remarkably similar to many gentile Polish politicians. That Yemeni murderer looked just like gentile Yemenis. Yishai — the egregiously racist Tunisian Jewish minister of the interior — looks just like many Tunisian gentiles.

    What does that suggest to you? What would you say the similarity in appearance between American blacks and blacks from West Africa suggests? They’re all originally from Alabama and it’s their homeland?

  66. imho, Israel should annex all lands to west of the river, extend full citizenship to the Arabs and use policing to deal with terrorism instead of the military. In return, the refugees become full citizens of wherever countries they happen to be and get assistance to integrate with host societies by donations from Israel’s allies and the prosporous world Jewry.
    this calls for change of mindsets on both sides: to give up racist (Zionist) supremacy and jihadist terrorism.
    one idea for the name of the union: Holyland, the citizens: Holylanders, not to be confused with Holland aka Netherlands. (Israel would be great but in case the Arabs are going to object.)
    the alternative is to keep locking horns and unnecessarily prolong human misery. if peace breaks out in the Holy Land, God knows if it might spread to the rest of the region. everyone is entitled to dream…

    • Replies: @BengaliCanadianDude
  67. Priss Factor [AKA "Asagirian"] says: • Website

    Below, I am speaking hypothetically as a globo-homo libby-dib:

    https://www.jpost.com/Israel-Elections/How-Israels-younger-voters-have-grown-more-conservative-over-time-586446

    This is why Mass Immigration is important for the preservation of liberalism. In any society, conservative and religious people have more children than secular and liberal ones. For example, Turkey became more conservative and religious over the years because religious and conservative folks had more children than secular people did.

    If United States hadn’t had mass immigration, it’d be a more conservative nation because conservatives and Christians have more children than secular liberals do. Compare Mormons with mostly secular Episcopalians.

    But secular and liberal forces gained demographically in the US because of immigrants. Immigrants may be socially and culturally more conservative(than even white conservatives), but they will vote for liberal/secular parties because of the immigration issue. Even the most conservative Muslims in Europe and Canada tend to vote for liberal-secular parties that are for open borders. As the main priority of non-Westerners is to gain entry into the West, they will vote for the Party that is pro-immigration EVEN IF they disagree with their social platform. Muslims, for instance, despise Justin Trudeau but vote for him because the Liberals are for more immigration.

    The problem with Israel is it has allowed only Jewish immigration, and many of these Jewish immigrants tend to be Orthodox and conservative to begin with. With religious and conservative Jews have more children than secular ones do, Israel has grown more right-wing.
    But had Israel practiced open borders and taken in millions of Africans and Muslims, the Liberal-secularists could be in power and could own all future elections because Africans/Muslims will vote for the party that is for open borders and greater welfare.

    This is why Open Borders and Mass Immigration are utterly necessary to maintain a liberal society. Because conservatives breed more than liberals do, liberals must rely on immigrant votes to counter the natalist demographic advantage of conservatives. And it doesn’t matter if immigrants are culturally conservative because they will vote for the party that offers them easy immigration and benefits. In a way, secular liberals are relying on culturally conservative immigrants to offset the power of native cultural conservatives. But because immigrants prioritize access to Western nations as #1 interest, they will vote for the Liberal Party over the Conservative Party. Even the most arch-conservative Muslim in the West will vote for liberals against conservatives because liberals offer them greater ease of immigration and more social benefits. Liberals must exploit this fact to win against conservatives.

    So, on the issue of Israel, all decent progressives must press upon it to accept Open Borders and take in lots of Africans and Muslims. Only then will liberalism and secularism be saved in Israel because most of those Africans and Muslims will vote for Jewish Liberals against Jewish Conservatives.

  68. @mcohen

    ‘As long as the bus driver has his shit together everyone will come along for the ride.
    Israel with the right leadership will deliver and the arabs know this.dignity and jobs will win the day.’

    Barf. Not all Zionists are equal. Some are more nauseating than others.

    • LOL: wayfarer
  69. Anonymous[391] • Disclaimer says:

    After completing a post, there is a message that says “Your comment is awaiting moderation”. Judging from a number of posts here today and in the past, I wonder what kind of moderation the posts are subjected to. There have been posts calling for ethnic cleansing bordering on genocide of a group of people, bigoted statements some of which reflect extreme paranoia based on reinvented histories, elimination of Muslims in Western countries, calls for re-establishment of White societies (where and when was the last documented ethnically pure country?).

    To the best of my knowledge, aside from some East Asian countries (Japan, Korea) which have relatively homogeneous ethnic groups, the extreme statements reeking of pure hate here for some strange reason have passed through the moderation process. I am all for healthy debates (am vehemently opposed to censorship) relevant to the facts of an article, but the irrational phobias and venom displayed in some posts are hard to distinguish form classical Nazi postures. Even as an atheist who has rejected religion with a passion, I find the statements targeting Muslims and sometimes Jews as incomprehensible. And that is putting it mildly. Meanwhile, I cannot wait for the next piece by Mr. Dinh — an oasis of sobriety and literary treats.

  70. Lot says:
    @jacques sheete

    This is the best overall article on Ashkenazi genetic history:

    James Xue et al, “The time and place of European admixture in Ashkenazi Jewish history,” 2017, Plos Genetics, http://journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article?id=10.1371/journal.pgen.1006644

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  71. “Don Isaac Abravanel (1437-1508), Netanyahu’s family hero and role model, was the first modern Zionist. Abravanel preached a pragmatic plan to create a Jewish state in the Holy Land while taking revenge on Christians and Muslims by tricking them into fighting each other in an apocalyptic war that would destroy both religions and leave Zionist Jews masters of the world. A little over five centuries later, Abravanel’s plan’ hyped by Bibi’s father Benzion Netanyahu‘ is nearing fruition.”

    http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=186649

  72. mcohen says:

    The land of israel belongs to the jews.Every square meter why else would it not be so.In the beginning there was light and that light is carried by the people of israel so that they may be a light unto the nations.amen.
    The commandments as told to moses are not to be forgotten as we near the pesach.
    For us did you choose,and us did you sanctify from all the nations.amen

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @annamaria
  73. annamaria says:
    @Colin Wright

    Bibi-land: https://justice4poland.com/2016/07/21/world-wide-white-slave-trade-centred-in-israel/

    10,000 Eastern European and Russian girls are lured to Israel each year and enslaved as prostitutes.

    Over the past decade, about 100,000 women have been trafficked into Israel in what Keidar calls “modern slavery”

  74. annamaria says:
    @Lot

    You are funny. From the article that you have linked: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28376121

    The major source of EU ancestry in Ashkenazi Jews was found to be Southern Europe (≈60–80% of EU ancestry), with the rest being likely Eastern European.

    moreover: https://www.the-scientist.com/daily-news/genetic-roots-of-the-ashkenazi-jews-38580

    The majority of Ashkenazi Jews are descended from prehistoric European women, according to study published in Nature Communications.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms3543

    Compare the above to the ancestry of Palestinians: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinians#DNA_and_genetic_studies

    …the ancient Levantines clustered predominantly with modern-day Palestinians and Bedouins… a study published in The American Journal of Human Genetics concluded that “The overlap between the Bronze Age and present-day Levantines suggests a degree of genetic continuity in the region”

  75. annamaria says:
    @mcohen

    Unfortunately for mcohen, scientific research rains on his parade: https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms3543

    The majority of Ashkenazi Jews are descended from prehistoric European women, according to study published in Nature Communications.

    The Ashkenazim are thought to have emerged from dispersals north into the Rhineland of Mediterranean Jews in the early Middle Ages, although there is little evidence before the twelfth century.

    After expulsions from Western Europe between the thirteenth and fifteenth centuries, the communities are thought to have expanded eastwards, especially in Poland, Lithuania and then Russia.

  76. annamaria says:
    @mcohen

    To entertain mcohen: https://forward.com/news/national/395677/23andmes-cool-update-does-bupkis-for-most-ashkenazi-jews/
    Results of direct-to-consumer ancestry services 23andMe and Ancestry.com found that

    “Ashkenazi Jewish” appears as a large, blue blob that extends from the top of Poland to Hungary and also includes Jews who hail from places like Lithuania and Ukraine.

    Sephardic Jews generally can learn even less about their heritage than Ashkenazi Jews can. Because the DNA of different Sephardic communities — from Morocco, Greece, Iran and elsewhere — so closely resemble those home countries, there are few genetic sequences associated with Sephardic ancestry; there are fewer, at any rate, than those of Ashkenazi Jews, who were clustered in a land-locked part of Europe.

    Read more: https://forward.com/news/national/395677/23andmes-cool-update-does-bupkis-for-most-ashkenazi-jews/

  77. @annamaria

    ‘10,000 Eastern European and Russian girls are lured to Israel each year and enslaved as prostitutes.

    Over the past decade, about 100,000 women have been trafficked into Israel in what Keidar calls “modern slavery”’

    If those figures are accurate, it suggests an enormous appetite for prostitutes among Israeli Jews.

    After all, each prostitute must ‘service’ more than one man a day. Presumably, some percentage of adult Israeli males are happily married, or gay, or impotent, or somehow not in the market.

    Do the math. Assuming your average customer goes once a week, and that the average prostitute stays in circulation for ten years and services fifty men a week, we’ve got 100,000 prostitutes and five million johns — which would be just about double the number of adult male Jews in Palestine.

    They can’t be mounting shiksas at that rate. Maybe the prostitutes come into Israel for training and then are farmed out elsewhere?

  78. @Lot

    ‘…This is the best overall article on Ashkenazi genetic history:

    James Xue et al, “The time and place of European admixture in Ashkenazi Jewish history,” 2017, Plos Genetics…’

    ‘Plos’ appears to be basically a vanity press that lets anyone who wants to pay publish a ‘scientific’ article.

    ‘…To fund the journals, PLOS charges an article processing charge to be paid by the author or the author’s employer or funder…’

  79. Turul says:
    @annamaria

    ‘the Turkish-looking Avi and Polish-looking Bibi.’

    This is a gross insult to Turks and Poles.

  80. “[I am] am vehemently opposed to censorship.”

    No. I think you are lying about your opposition to censorship. You actually crave censorship when faced with comments that you detest and comments which anger you. You actually want comments of that kind ‘moderated’ out of existence.

    As proof of your hidden motives, you go on to make the familiar Nazi parallels as you denounce “hate”, “genocide” and other “irrational” comments that you find on this site and which you deplore. How very typical.

    But we’re talking about speech, not deeds. That distinction must be made. Clearly.

    Political speech must be always be protected. Aggressive, physical aggression however must be outlawed and resisted.

    Critics of your familiar persuasion hate hateful words but get much less worked up about hate-driven (but seemingly non-emotional) mass killings conducted by the correct state actors (Washington and Israel, for example).

    These civilized nations (that are in the real business of killing and ethnic cleansing) invariably speak softly, reference ‘freedom’ and democracy continuously, as they routinely drop enormous bombs on weaker nations whom they accuse of ‘terrorism’. Exceptional nations get to do exceptional things.

    Similarly, the actual, ongoing ethnic cleansing in Israel/Palestine and the forgotten killing fields seen in Iraq, Libya, Lebanon, Palestine and Syria are mere blips on the moral radar screen of loud-mouthed ‘anti-hate’ activists in your camp.

    What makes your blood actually boil are dissenting murmurs of non-lethal ‘hate speech’ by outraged Americans who understand the magnitude of ‘centrist’ criminality emanating from Zio-Washington.

    Your sentiments reek of hypocrisy and dishonesty.

  81. @Lot

    endorses a communist

    Lot is clearly engaging in the long-discredited “anti-semitic” tactic of “McCarthyism” here.

    He also seems to have forgotten one of the foundational principles of modern, tolerant liberal democracies — that any form of in-group loyalty is inherently pathological. Lot’s misguided, paternalistic attempts to portray Mr. Shamir as “self-hating” for what he describes as “inadequate” levels of in-group preference are clear manifestations of his notoriously toxic authoritarian personality.

    Lot has forgotten the deep wisdom contained in that definitive work of his people, which explained to us the inherently pathological nature of in-group preference, and the dangers of the authoritarian personality, with its blind, compulsive attempts to enforce “rules” and “order” on those it views as its “family,” and “under its control.”

    Here’s that classic work again, kindly brought to us by the selfless philanthropists of the American Jewish Committee for the unbeatable price of… zero shekels:

    http://www.ajcarchives.org/AJC_DATA/Files/AP1.pdf

    Lot needs to review this classic study in order to better understand the inherently psychopathological nature of his deeply “anti-semitic” worldview. It would do him good — help him to let go of his mindless hatred, to learn to be more tolerant… and to do a better job of tikkuning the olam.

    who explicitly wants to “Muslimify” [Palestine]

    The sort of blind, unreasoning hatred for the “Other” that Lot exhibits here is characteristic of his authoritarian personality, of course. Very intolerant. “Racist,” too. Yet another reason why Lot would benefit from reviewing some of the valuable scholarship produced by his people on the dangers of “intolerance,” “racism,” and other fascist ideologies that are often promoted by authoritarian personalities like his.

  82. Michael says:
    @Herald

    Egypt is the holy land you kikes will pay for your treason to Pharaoh

  83. Michael says:
    @Miggle

    Are there Jews in Cuba?

  84. @anno nimus

    A pipe dream in the strongest sense of the term, but one can dream, yes. I put my meagre online voice and vote behind this

  85. @annamaria

    10,000 Eastern European and Russian girls are lured to Israel each year and enslaved as prostitutes.

    Disgusting but not surprising if you study the history of slave trading as well as that of pornography, and who are the principal purveyors of filth and smut here in the US.

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