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The Untouchable Mr. Browder?
The Browder affair is a heady upper-class Jewish cocktail of money, spies, politicians and international crime.
William F. Browder, Chief Executive Officer Hermitage Capital Management. Copyright by World Economic Forum swiss-image.ch/Photo by Michael Wuertenberg. Credit: Wikimedia Commons.
William F. Browder, Chief Executive Officer Hermitage Capital Management. Copyright by World Economic Forum swiss-image.ch/Photo by Michael Wuertenberg. Credit: Wikimedia Commons.

Chapeau, Mr Browder! Hats off for this incredible man. Last month, he succeeded in stopping a film screening in the European parliament and took off a few articles from American web sites. This week, he turned the only US screening of a film critical to his version of events into a ruckus. No freedom of speech for his enemies! His lawyers prowl around and issue summons to whoever digs in his sordid affairs. His hacks re-wrote his Wikipedia entry, expunging even discussions of the topic: despite hundreds of edits, nothing survived but the official version. Only a few powerful men succeed purifying their record to such an extent. Still, good fortune (a notoriously flighty lady) is about to desert Mr Browder.

Who is this extremely influential man? A businessman, a politician, a spy? The American-born Jewish tycoon William Browder, says The Jewish Chronicle, considers himself Putin’s Number One enemy. For him, Putin is “no friend of the Jews”, “cold-blooded killer” and even “criminal dictator who is not too different from Hitler, Mussolini or Gadhafi”. More to a point, Browder is the man who contributed most to the new cold war between the West and Russia. The roots were there, still he made them blossom. If the US and Russia haven’t yet exchanged nuclear salvos, do not blame Browder: he tried. For a valid reason, too: he was hit by cruel Hitler-like Mr Putin into his most susceptible spot, namely his pocket. Or was there even a better reason?

Browder, a grandson of the US Communist leader, came to Russia at its weakest point after the Soviet collapse, and grabbed an enormous fortune by opaque financial transactions. Such fortunes are not amassed by the pure of spirit. He was a ruthless man who did as much as any oligarch to enrich himself.

Eventually he ran afoul of Mr Putin, who was (and is) very tolerant of oligarchs as long as they play by the rules. The oligarchs would not be oligarchs if they would found that an easy condition. Some of them tried to fight back: Khodorkovsky landed in jail, Berezovsky and Gusinsky went to exile. Browder had a special position: he was the only Jewish oligarch in Russia who never bothered to acquire the Russian citizenship. He was barred from returning to Russia, and his companies were audited and found wanting.

As you’d expect, huge tax evasion was discovered. Browder thought that as long as he sucked up to Putin, he’d get away with bloody murder, let alone tax evasion. He was mistaken. Putin is nobody’s fool. Flatterers do not get a free ride in Putin’s Russia. And Browder became too big for his boots.

It turned out that he did two unforgivable things. Russians were afraid the foreigners would buy all their assets for a song, using favourable exchange rates and lack of native capital, as had happened in the Baltic states and other ex-Communist East European countries. In order to avoid that, shares of Russian blue-chip companies (Gazprom and suchlike) were traded among Russian citizens only. Foreigners had to pay much more. Browder bought many such shares via Russian frontmen, and he was close to getting control over Russian oil and gas. Putin suspected that he had acted in the interests of big foreign oil companies, trying to repeat the feat of Mr Khodorkovsky.

His second mistake was being too greedy. Russian taxation is very low; but Browder did not want to pay even this low tax. He hired Mr Magnitsky, an experienced auditor, who used loopholes in the Russian tax code in order to avoid taxes altogether. Magnitsky established dummy companies based in tax-free zones of Russia, such as pastoral Kalmykia, small, Buddhist, and autonomous. Their tax-free status had been granted in order to improve their economy and reduce unemployment; however, Browder’s companies did not contribute to economy and did not employ people; they were paper dummies swiftly bankrupted by the owner.

Another Magnitsky trick was to form companies fronted by handicapped people who were also freed from paying tax. In the film, some of these persons, often illiterate and of limited intelligence, told the filmmaker of signing papers they could not read and of being paid a little money for the millions passing through their account.

(Mr Browder does not deny these accusations; he says there is nothing criminal in trying to avoid taxes. You can read about Browder and Magnitsky tricks here and here, and learn of the ways they attacked companies using minority shareholders and many other neat schemes.)

Eventually Magnitsky’s schemes were discovered and he was arrested. Ten months later, in 2009, he died in jail. By that time, his patron Mr Browder was abroad, and he began his campaign against Russia hoping to regain his lost assets. He claimed Mr Magnitsky had been his lawyer, who discovered misdeeds and the outright thievery of government officials, and was imprisoned and tortured to death for this discovery.

The US Congress rushed in the Magnitsky Act, the first salvo of the Cold War Two. By this act, any Russian person could be found responsible for Mr Magnitsky’s untimely death and for misappropriation of Browder’s assets. His properties could be seized, bank accounts frozen – without any legal process or representation. This act upset the Russians, who allegedly had kept a cool $500 billion in the Western banks, so tit for tat started, and it goes to this very day.

The actual effect of the Magnitsky Act was minimal: some twenty million dollars frozen and a few dozen not-very-important people were barred from visiting the US. Its psychological effect was much greater: the Russian elite realised that they could lose their money and houses anytime – not in godless Putin’s Russia, but in the free West, where they had preferred to look for refuge. The Magnitsky Act paved the road to the Cyprus confiscation of Russian deposits, to post-Crimean sanctions and to a full-fledged Cold War.

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This was painful for Russia, as the first adolescent disillusionment in its love affair with the West, and rather healthy, in my view. A spot of cold war (very cold, plenty of ice please) is good for ordinary people, while its opposite, a Russian-American alliance, is good for the elites. The worst times for ordinary Russian people were 1988-2001, when Russians were in love with the US. The oligarchs stole everything there was to steal and sold it to the West for pennies. They bought villas in Florida while Russia fell apart. That was bad time for everybody: the US invaded Panama and Afghanistan unopposed, Iraq was sanctioned to death, Yugoslavia was bombed and broken to pieces.

As the Cold War came back, some normalcy was restored: the Russians stopped the US from destroying Syria, and Russian officials learned to love Sochi instead of Miami. For this reason alone, Browder can be counted as a part of the power which eternally wills evil and eternally works good. The Russian government, however, did not enjoy the cold shower.

The Russians denied any wrongdoing or even political reasons for dealing with Browder. They say Magnitsky was not a lawyer, just an auditor and a tax code expert. They say that he was arrested and tried for his tax avoidance schemes, and he died of natural causes while in jail. Nobody listened to them, until they demanded that Browder testify under oath. He refused. For two years lawyers tried to give him a summons, but he was a quick runner. There are funny videos showing Browder running away from summons.

Some good sense began to seep into American minds. The New Republic wondered: if Browder was indeed the victim of persecution in Russia and had enlisted the U.S. justice system to right the balance, why was he so reluctant to offer his sworn testimony in an American courtroom?

Enter Mr Andrey Nekrasov, a Russian dissident filmmaker. He made a few films considered to be highly critical of Russian government. He alleged the FSB blew up houses in Moscow in order to justify the Chechnya war. He condemned the Russian war against Georgia in 2008, and had been given a medal by Georgian authorities. He did not doubt the official Western version of Browder-Magnitsky affair, and decided to make a film about the noble American businessman and the brave Russian lawyer fighting for human rights. The European organisations and parliamentarians provided the budget for the film. They also expected the film to denounce Putin and glorify Magnitsky, the martyr.

However, while making the film, Mr Nekrasov had his Road to Damascus moment. He realised that the whole narrative was hinging on the unsubstantiated words of Mr Browder. After painstaking research, he came to some totally different conclusions, and in his version, Browder was a cheat who run afoul of law, while Magnitsky was his sidekick in those crimes.

Nekrasov discovered an interview Magnitsky gave in his jail. In this interview, the accountant said he was afraid Browder would kill him to prevent him from denouncing Browder, and would make him his scapegoat. It turned out Browder tried to bribe the journalist who made the interview to have these words expunged. Browder was the main beneficiary of the accountant’s death, realised Nekrasov, while his investigators were satisfied with Magnitsky’s collaboration with them.

Nekrasov could not find any evidence that Magnitsky tried to investigate the misdeeds of government officials. He was too busy covering his own tax evasion. And instead of fitting his preconceived notions, Nekrasov made the film about what he learned. (Here are some details of Nekrasov’s film)

While the screening in the EU Parliament was been stopped by the powerful Mr Browder, in Washington DC the men are made of sterner stuff. Despite Browder’s threats the film was screened, presented by the best contemporary American investigative journalist Seymour Hersh, who is 80 if a day, and still going strong. One has to recognise that the US is second to none for freedom of speech on the globe.

What makes Browder so powerful? He invests in politicians. This is probably a uniquely Jewish quality: Jews outspend everybody in contributions to political figures. The Arabs will spend more on horses and jets, the Russians prefer real estate, the Jews like politicians. The Russian NTV channel reported that Browder lavishly financed the US lawmakers. Here they present alleged evidence of money transfers: some hundred thousand dollars was given by Browder’s structures officially to the senators and congressmen in order to promote the Magnitsky Act.

Much bigger sums were transferred via good services of Brothers Ziff, mega-rich Jewish American businessmen, said the researchers in two articles published on the Veteran News Network and in The Huffington Post.

These two articles were taken off the sites very fast under pressure of Browder’s lawyers, but they are available in the cache. They disclose the chief beneficiary of Browder’s generosity. This is Senator Ben Cardin, a Democrat from Maryland. He was the engine behind Magnitsky Act legislation to such an extent that the Act has been often called the Cardin List. Cardin is a fervent supporter of Hillary Clinton, also a cold warrior of good standing. More to a point, Cardin is a prominent member of Israel Lobby.

Browder affair is a heady upper-class Jewish cocktail of money, spies, politicians and international crime. Almost all involved figures appear to be Jewish, not only Browder, Brothers Ziff and Ben Cardin. Even his enemy, the beneficiary of the scam that (according to Browder) took over his Russian assets is another Jewish businessman Dennis Katsiv (he had been partly exonerated by a New York court as is well described in this thoughtful piece).

Browder began his way to riches under the patronage of a very rich and very crooked Robert Maxwell, a Czech-born Jewish businessman who assumed a Scots name. Maxwell stole a few million dollars from his company pension fund before dying in mysterious circumstances on board of his yacht in the Atlantic. It was claimed by a member of Israeli Military Intelligence, Ari Ben Menashe, that Maxwell had been a Mossad agent for years, and he also said Maxwell tipped the Israelis about Israeli whistle-blower Mordecai Vanunu. Vanunu was kidnapped and spent many years in Israeli jails.

Geoffrey Goodman wrote Maxwell “was almost certainly being used as – and using himself as – a two-way intelligence conduit [between East and West]. This arrangement included passing intelligence to the Israeli secret forces with whom he became increasingly involved towards the end of his life.”

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After Maxwell, Browder switched allegiance to Edmond Safra, a very rich Jewish banker of Lebanese origin, who also played East vs West. Safra provided him with working capital for his investment fund. Safra’s bank has been the unlikely place where the IMF loan of four billion dollars to Russia had been transferred—and disappeared. The Russian authorities say that Browder has been involved in this “crime of the century,” next to Safra. The banker’s name has been connected to Mossad: increasingly fearful for his life, Safra surrounded himself by Mossad-trained gunmen. This did not help him: he died a horrible death in his bathroom when his villa was torched by one of the guards.

The third Jewish oligarch on Browder’s way was Boris Berezovsky, the king-maker of Yeltsin’s Russia. He also died in his bathroom (which seems to be a constant feature); apparently he committed suicide. Berezovsky had been a politically active man; he supported every anti-Putin force in Russia. However, a few months before his death, he asked for permission to return to Russia, and some negotiations went on between him and Russian authorities.

His chief of security Sergey Sokolov came to Russia and purportedly brought with him some documents his late master prepared for his return. These documents allege that Browder had been an agent of Western intelligence services, of the CIA to begin with, and of MI6 in following years. He was given a code name Solomon, as he worked for Salomon Brothers. His financial activity was just a cover for his true intentions, that is to collect political and economic data on Russia, and to carry out economic war on Russia. This revelation has been made in the Russia-1 TV channel documentary Browder Effect, (broadcasted 13.04.2016), asserting that Browder was not after money at all, and his activities in Russia, beside being very profitable, had a political angle.

The documents had been doubted for some linguistic reasons discussed by Gilbert Doctorow who comes to a reasonable conclusion: “Bill Browder[‘s]… intensity and the time he was devoting to anti-Russian sanctions in Europe was in no way comparable to the behaviour of a top level international businessman. It was clear to me that some other game was in play. But at the time, no one could stand up and suggest the man was a fraud, an operative of the intelligence agencies. Whatever the final verdict may be on the documents presented by the film “The Browder Effect,” it raises questions about Browder that should have been asked years ago in mainstream Western media if journalists were paying attention. Yevgeny Popov deserves credit for highlighting those questions, even if his documents demand further investigation before we come to definitive answers”.

We do not know whether Browder is, or had been, a spy. This should not surprise us, as he was closely connected to Maxwell, Safra and Berezovsky, the financiers with strong ties in the intelligence community.

Perhaps he outlived his usefulness, Mr Browder did. He started the Cold war, now is the time to keep it in its healthy limits and to avoid a nuclear disaster or rapid armaments race. This is the task we may hope will be entertained by the next US President, Mr Donald Trump.

This article was first published in The Unz Review.

Israel Shamir can be reached at adam@israelshamir.net

 
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  1. damn, this fucker and madoff is like what everyone in the world hates about jews come to life.

    If I were jewish, I would want to distance my self as far away as possible, that taint is real.

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    • Replies: @Seraphim
    A really astute observation: Browder>Madoff. Where the money to finance Madoff's Ponzi Scheme came from? An who were the beneficiaries? The whole tribe, as it were. Wiesel, Spielberg, Katzenberg, Spitzer, Zuckerman, Gottesman.....
    , @Jacques Sheete
    "If I were jewish, I would want to distance my self as far away as possible, that taint is real."

    That is very true. For that reason, many smart, moral Jews resisted and still resist the (atheist) Zionist project in Palestine as you may already know. Of course, they were and are sidelined.

    Once again, all it takes is a few rotten apples to spoil the whole barrel.

    , @imbroglio
    Yes, it's Abe and Izzy who run the shoe store on Main Street, pay their bills and their taxes and struggle to make ends meet and are true to their wives and help their kids with their homework, who'll pay the price.
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  2. his hacks re-wrote his Wikipedia entry, expunging even discussions of the topic

    Wikipedia talk pages are regularly archived so that only active discussions are on the main talk page. “Expunged” implies they were deleted and not available. In fact, the old talk pages for the article are all available one click away from the main talk page.

    Here, for example, is a much longer archived talk page for Browder:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bill_Browder&oldid=544048631

    Likewise, there seems to be no censorship of the article. Rather, like most wikipedia articles, over the years the article has slowly grown in length. The only substantial deletion from the article in the past 6 years was the recent deletion of a 4,000 word quotation from a source article. Such very long quotations are usually copyright violations and in any case are not good wikipedia style.

    In short, both your claim of wikipedia censorship and wikipedia “expunging” content are completely wrong.

    The wikipedia editor who made the deletion and is presumably the “hack” is an extremely prolific editor who has made more than 500 wikipedia edits in the past month and many thousands of edits since 2009, the first being on the articles “Protein folding” and “Chloride peroxidase.”

    Now it is possible Browder has a long-time wikipedia super-editor as one of his “hacks,” but if you are going to libel a person like this, some evidence should be presented.

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    • Replies: @Wally
    Wikipedia is highly controlled by supremacist Jew fanatics / Zionists, as are many other sites.

    see:
    Zionist Wikipedia Editing Course
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/139189

    Then there’s:
    Zionist attempt to control language:
    The Israel Project’s 2009 GLOBAL LANGUAGE DICTIONARY
    https://www.transcend.org/tms/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/sf-israel-projects-2009-global-language-dictionary.pdf

    The commander behind the pro-Israel student troops on U.S. college campuses
    http://www.haaretz.com/misc/article-print-page//.premium-1.709014

    Israel tech site paying “interns” to covertly plant stories in social media
    http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/asa-winstanley/israel-tech-site-paying-interns-covertly-plant-stories-social-media

    Israeli students to get $2,000 to spread state propaganda on Facebook
    http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/israeli-students-get-2000-spread-state-propaganda-facebook

  3. I have written this before, but most US citizens think that CIA is a big bureaucracy which does secret stuff. Although this is partially true, there are also free-wheeling agents who work primarily for their own private or group interest (getting rich) and hopefully also in the Israeli and/or US national interest. Like in everything else, intelligence agencies are organised in a packing order: Mossad at the top, CIA working for Mossad, MI6 and BND working for CIA and so on. But most of the time these agencies both cooperate and compete and sometimes shaft each other (e.g. 911), from project to project.

    One small complaint within a great article. Israel says:

    One has to recognise that the US is second to none for freedom of speech on the globe.

    This is a wrong interpretation of what transpired. There are two reasons why the documentary could have been shown in the US but not in EU:
    1) EU is a lower level servant of the state of Israel than the US, and
    2) EU has the most draconian libel laws (especially UK), which make stating anything about a lawyered person prepared for lawfare too risky. Nothing to do with freedom of speech.

    The most interesting, previously unknown, detail to me in this article was that Browder’s grandfather was the leader of the US Communist Party. This underlines Communism as primarily a Jewish movement world-wide.

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    This is priceless: "We do not know whether Browder is, or had been, a spy. This should not surprise us, as he was closely connected to Maxwell, Safra and Berezovsky, the financiers with strong ties in the intelligence community."

    Could Mr. Browder hope for a better end of life than Maxwell, Safra and Berezovsky? And what would be the fate of Mr. Cardin, the famous congressional prostitute? http://www.councilforthenationalinterest.org/new/?p=3742#.V2fRqzc5FCo

    "Israel’s Agent of Influence: Senator Ben Cardin shows how it’s done:"

    "So who does Cardin actually represent? I would suggest that he fits the mold of the classic agent of influence in that his allegiance to the United States is constrained by his greater loyalty to a foreign nation."

    , @Israel Shamir
    Dear Kiza, you provide an explanation, but the fact remains there: the US has more freedom of speech. Not as much as we would like, but indeed more than Europe, as you yourself explained. Still, David Duke had a spell (a year?) in jail for some strange reason.
  4. My, we are disempowered, aren’t we? Amid a plethora of articles and books suggesting that Jewish people conspire together to enrich themselves, buy politicians and control governments, no one dares say a word – unless, like Mr Shamir, they are themselves Jewish. Even then there is a definite risk, which I thank and applaud Mr Shamir for taking.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Are we talking about the same Browder? If this one is the son of Earl Browder, former head of CPUSA in the thirties, we need to note that EB was born in Kansas to a farmer who was also a Methodist minister. Earl Browder was, to my knowledge, a Unitarian until he shucked religion for Communism.
  5. “…Browder was not after money at all…” Uh, no. Browder was notorious for his greed and obsession with money. This is someone who had a program that calculated his personal net worth online and would check it no less than every half hour. Think Gordon Gekko but too cheap to even buy a decent suit. While there may have been some intelligence connections somewhere along the way, as the article states, he went political only when his honey pot was removed. Without Russia, his fund management business quickly tanked.

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    • Replies: @polistra
    I don't know anything more about this case than what Shamir has written ... but the connection of CIA, leftists and banking is NOT unusual at all. It's highly typical and goes back many decades. Wherever you find American leftists, you'll find banking and CIA/OSS connections.
  6. Israel Shamir should have learned from his own experience that in the Zionist colonized “civilized West” there is no ‘freedom of speech’ for people who are disliked by the powerful Organized Jewry.

    For example, Europe’s so-called cradle of ‘freedom of speech’ – France, where insulting Muslims and Islam had long been declared “freedom of speech” – but French Christians who tell the truth about Jewish history are persecuted.

    On Tuesday, a French court fined French philosopher Alain Soral $13,000 and six month suspended jail sentence for saying that Nazis should have finished killing the Jews of Europe.

    The sentence, handed down was over Soral’s Facebook post of last year about Romanian Serge Klarsfield, 80, and his German wife Beate Klarsfeld, 77, the so-called ‘Nazi hunter couple’. The legendary Nazi hunter Simon Wiesenthal was a Mossad agent according to Dalia Karpel, Ha’aretz, February 9, 2010.

    “This is what happens when you don’t finish the job,” Soral wrote about an article on a state honor of Federal Order of Merit conferred on the Klarsfelds by Germany last year. During the acceptance speech both parroted the “rising antisemitism in Europe” mantra.

    The judge found Soral guilty of “justifying war crimes and crimes against humanity.” In other words supporting Israeli rabbis that Jews are the only humans and the rest of six billion people were created to serve the 13 million Jews!

    The judge also ordered Soral to pay $5,600, to each of the Klarsfelds and $2,250, to the International League against Racism and Anti-Semitism, which filed the complaint against Soral for his Facebook post.

    In 2004, Alain Soral was fined $8,000 for insulting the Zionist Jewry.

    https://rehmat1.com/2016/06/19/french-philosopher-fined-27000-for-insulting-jews/

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    • Replies: @Karl
    another day, another "honor killing" by Rehmat's tribesmen:

    http://ktla.com/2016/06/19/pregnant-woman-husband-tortured-and-shot-dead-in-honor-killing-in-pakistan/
    , @Israel Shamir
    This is exactly what I said: the US has more freedom of speech))
    , @Seraphim
    In relation to Serge Klarsfeld (not a Romanian, but "born in Bucharest to a family of Romanian Jews" - Wikipedia) Wikipedia gives some interesting details:

    "In 2012 the archivist of the Stasi revealed that Klarsfeld's attack on the chancellor was carried out in agreement with and the support of the government of East Germany, which was conducting a campaign against West German politicians (see Braunbuch). Beate Klarsfeld was paid 2,000 DM by the Stasi for her actions. Both Serge and Beate Klarsfeld were revealed to have been regular Stasi contacts. According to the State Commissioner for the Stasi Archives of Saxony, they cooperated with the Stasi in the 1960s in blackmailing West German politicians for Second World War activities... The cooperation of both Beate and Serge Klarsfeld with the Stasi and their status as contacts was also documented in a new book by former Stasi officers, Günter Bohnsack and Herbert Brehmer."
  7. @Astuteobservor II
    damn, this fucker and madoff is like what everyone in the world hates about jews come to life.

    If I were jewish, I would want to distance my self as far away as possible, that taint is real.

    A really astute observation: Browder>Madoff. Where the money to finance Madoff’s Ponzi Scheme came from? An who were the beneficiaries? The whole tribe, as it were. Wiesel, Spielberg, Katzenberg, Spitzer, Zuckerman, Gottesman…..

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  8. If Putin was as evil and meglomoniacal as everyone keeps telling us in the west, wouldn’t this guy be dead already?

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  9. @Astuteobservor II
    damn, this fucker and madoff is like what everyone in the world hates about jews come to life.

    If I were jewish, I would want to distance my self as far away as possible, that taint is real.

    “If I were jewish, I would want to distance my self as far away as possible, that taint is real.”

    That is very true. For that reason, many smart, moral Jews resisted and still resist the (atheist) Zionist project in Palestine as you may already know. Of course, they were and are sidelined.

    Once again, all it takes is a few rotten apples to spoil the whole barrel.

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  10. @Kiza
    I have written this before, but most US citizens think that CIA is a big bureaucracy which does secret stuff. Although this is partially true, there are also free-wheeling agents who work primarily for their own private or group interest (getting rich) and hopefully also in the Israeli and/or US national interest. Like in everything else, intelligence agencies are organised in a packing order: Mossad at the top, CIA working for Mossad, MI6 and BND working for CIA and so on. But most of the time these agencies both cooperate and compete and sometimes shaft each other (e.g. 911), from project to project.

    One small complaint within a great article. Israel says:


    One has to recognise that the US is second to none for freedom of speech on the globe.
     
    This is a wrong interpretation of what transpired. There are two reasons why the documentary could have been shown in the US but not in EU:
    1) EU is a lower level servant of the state of Israel than the US, and
    2) EU has the most draconian libel laws (especially UK), which make stating anything about a lawyered person prepared for lawfare too risky. Nothing to do with freedom of speech.

    The most interesting, previously unknown, detail to me in this article was that Browder's grandfather was the leader of the US Communist Party. This underlines Communism as primarily a Jewish movement world-wide.

    This is priceless: “We do not know whether Browder is, or had been, a spy. This should not surprise us, as he was closely connected to Maxwell, Safra and Berezovsky, the financiers with strong ties in the intelligence community.”

    Could Mr. Browder hope for a better end of life than Maxwell, Safra and Berezovsky? And what would be the fate of Mr. Cardin, the famous congressional prostitute? http://www.councilforthenationalinterest.org/new/?p=3742#.V2fRqzc5FCo

    “Israel’s Agent of Influence: Senator Ben Cardin shows how it’s done:”

    “So who does Cardin actually represent? I would suggest that he fits the mold of the classic agent of influence in that his allegiance to the United States is constrained by his greater loyalty to a foreign nation.”

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  11. @Rehmat
    Israel Shamir should have learned from his own experience that in the Zionist colonized "civilized West" there is no 'freedom of speech' for people who are disliked by the powerful Organized Jewry.

    For example, Europe's so-called cradle of 'freedom of speech' - France, where insulting Muslims and Islam had long been declared "freedom of speech" - but French Christians who tell the truth about Jewish history are persecuted.

    On Tuesday, a French court fined French philosopher Alain Soral $13,000 and six month suspended jail sentence for saying that Nazis should have finished killing the Jews of Europe.

    The sentence, handed down was over Soral’s Facebook post of last year about Romanian Serge Klarsfield, 80, and his German wife Beate Klarsfeld, 77, the so-called ‘Nazi hunter couple’. The legendary Nazi hunter Simon Wiesenthal was a Mossad agent according to Dalia Karpel, Ha’aretz, February 9, 2010.

    “This is what happens when you don’t finish the job,” Soral wrote about an article on a state honor of Federal Order of Merit conferred on the Klarsfelds by Germany last year. During the acceptance speech both parroted the “rising antisemitism in Europe” mantra.

    The judge found Soral guilty of “justifying war crimes and crimes against humanity.” In other words supporting Israeli rabbis that Jews are the only humans and the rest of six billion people were created to serve the 13 million Jews!

    The judge also ordered Soral to pay $5,600, to each of the Klarsfelds and $2,250, to the International League against Racism and Anti-Semitism, which filed the complaint against Soral for his Facebook post.

    In 2004, Alain Soral was fined $8,000 for insulting the Zionist Jewry.

    https://rehmat1.com/2016/06/19/french-philosopher-fined-27000-for-insulting-jews/
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    • Replies: @Rehmat
    Another day, another "Jewish lie" by Karl's 'chosen tribe' ....

    http://newdemocracyworld.org/culture/muslims5.html
    , @KA
    Honor is interesting issue in human psyche .It is deeply emotional
    It can be tribal /communal or can be individual . In US , you might have noticed had you paid some attention that on average once a week a child and his or her mother are killed by the boyfriend or ex husband . Neither Koran nor American Constitution supports it . Nether local board of Kabul or Pakistan nor Bible supports it unless you search old bible.
  12. More conspiracy theories posited as fact.

    Alas, Putinist Russia is dangerous to those who would criticize Putin’s regime, or Putin himself. Putin is known for using accusations of tax evasion as an excuse for seizing certain businesses. If he has to, he has no compunction about jailing the proprietors, especially if they become politically active in opposition to Putin and his greater Russian schemes. Just ask Khodorkovsky.

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    • Disagree: Orville H. Larson
    • Replies: @Realist
    People like you are the rich Zionists favorite goyim
    , @The Alarmist

    "Putin is known for using accusations of tax evasion as an excuse for seizing certain businesses."
     
    And that would differentiate him from other countries' tax authorities in what way?
    , @Israel Shamir
    In Russia, everybody criticises Putin. No danger at all. Andrey Nekrasov was a foremost critic of Putin, made him no harm. Russia has as much freedom of speech as Europe; still less than the US.
    , @annamaria
    Is this what your former-Soviet relatives have been telling you? Still believing in anti-semitism in Russia? Perhaps you need to inform yourself about recent executive order (anti-Constitutional) prohibiting a peaceful worldwide protest known as BDS: "NY Gov. Cuomo signs “unconstitutional, McCarthyite” pro-Israel exec. order punishing BDS boycott movement"http://www.salon.com/2016/06/05/ny_gov_cuomo_signing_unconstitutional_mccarthyite_pro_israel_exec_order_punishing_bds_boycott_movement/

    You see, here are businesses of a whole state of New York, prepped for punishment because of their critique of a (special) foreign government.

    , @Anatoly Karlin

    Just ask Khodorkovsky.
     
    Why don't you ask the ECHR while you're at it?
  13. @Karl
    another day, another "honor killing" by Rehmat's tribesmen:

    http://ktla.com/2016/06/19/pregnant-woman-husband-tortured-and-shot-dead-in-honor-killing-in-pakistan/

    Another day, another “Jewish lie” by Karl’s ‘chosen tribe’ ….

    http://newdemocracyworld.org/culture/muslims5.html

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  14. @JL
    "...Browder was not after money at all..." Uh, no. Browder was notorious for his greed and obsession with money. This is someone who had a program that calculated his personal net worth online and would check it no less than every half hour. Think Gordon Gekko but too cheap to even buy a decent suit. While there may have been some intelligence connections somewhere along the way, as the article states, he went political only when his honey pot was removed. Without Russia, his fund management business quickly tanked.

    I don’t know anything more about this case than what Shamir has written … but the connection of CIA, leftists and banking is NOT unusual at all. It’s highly typical and goes back many decades. Wherever you find American leftists, you’ll find banking and CIA/OSS connections.

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    • Replies: @JL
    @polistra

    Oh, I'm not saying there was no connection, just that money was his prime motivator. Anything else, including intelligence work, was either to further his greedy gains or simply out of revenge later on. I've had the great pleasure of knowing him personally.
  15. @Karl
    another day, another "honor killing" by Rehmat's tribesmen:

    http://ktla.com/2016/06/19/pregnant-woman-husband-tortured-and-shot-dead-in-honor-killing-in-pakistan/

    Honor is interesting issue in human psyche .It is deeply emotional
    It can be tribal /communal or can be individual . In US , you might have noticed had you paid some attention that on average once a week a child and his or her mother are killed by the boyfriend or ex husband . Neither Koran nor American Constitution supports it . Nether local board of Kabul or Pakistan nor Bible supports it unless you search old bible.

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  16. SOS, aka history repeats.

    “If you want to be anybody nowadays, you must dare some crime that merits narrow Gyara[23] or a gaol; honesty is praised and left to shiver. It is to their crimes that men owe their pleasure-grounds and palaces, their fine tables and old silver goblets with goats standing out in relief. For when was Vice more rampant? When did the maw of Avarice gape wider? When was gambling so reckless? Men come not now with purses to the hazard of the gaming table, but with a treasure-chest beside them. ”

    Juvenal, SATIRE I, ~ 100AD

    Difficile Est Saturam Non Scribere (Indeed)

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  17. Maxwell stole a few million dollars from his company pension fund before dying in mysterious circumstances on board of his yacht in the Atlantic.

    The amount Maxwell nicked from his own workers was more than a few million. It was in fact £440 million, or about $1 billion. Moreover, Maxwell died, according to the official inquest held in Madrid, not “on board his yacht” but of “accidental drowning.” However, it was claimed by Auberon Waugh, writing in the Telegraph, that the corpse recovered from the ocean as that of Robert Maxwell (and buried on the Mount of Olives in Jerusalem), was in fact the remains of a small white whale. In view of Maxwell’s enormous size and weight, who could really be sure.

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  18. @polistra
    I don't know anything more about this case than what Shamir has written ... but the connection of CIA, leftists and banking is NOT unusual at all. It's highly typical and goes back many decades. Wherever you find American leftists, you'll find banking and CIA/OSS connections.

    Oh, I’m not saying there was no connection, just that money was his prime motivator. Anything else, including intelligence work, was either to further his greedy gains or simply out of revenge later on. I’ve had the great pleasure of knowing him personally.

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  19. @Quartermaster
    More conspiracy theories posited as fact.

    Alas, Putinist Russia is dangerous to those who would criticize Putin's regime, or Putin himself. Putin is known for using accusations of tax evasion as an excuse for seizing certain businesses. If he has to, he has no compunction about jailing the proprietors, especially if they become politically active in opposition to Putin and his greater Russian schemes. Just ask Khodorkovsky.

    People like you are the rich Zionists favorite goyim

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  20. “This is probably a uniquely Jewish quality: Jews outspend everybody in contributions to political figures. The Arabs will spend more on horses and jets, the Russians prefer real estate, the Jews like politicians.”

    And this, boys and girls is why Jews call the shots and have for decades, probably centuries.

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    • Replies: @Wally
    "And this, boys and girls is why Jews call the shots and have for decades, probably centuries."

    Now that is an understatement.


    Who demands mass immigration into white gentile countries, but stops non-Jew immigration into “that shitty little country”?
    Who runs the Federal Reserve?
    Who runs Wall Street?
    Who owns the US Congress?
    Who owns the White House?
    Who forces acceptance of the fictitious & impossible ’6M & gas chambers’?
    Who runs the media / entertainment?
    Who runs the music business?
    Who dominates ‘academia’?
    Why is AIPAC the most powerful, dominant lobby, which regularly writes the text of Congressional bills and resolutions?
    Who is it that wants to censor free speech via the “hate speech” canard?
    Who is it that demands we shed the blood of US troops for their interests?
    Who are the real & biggest racists on the planet?
     
  21. Israel Shamir writes another fascinating and insightful article. Thank you. Essays of this quality make UNZ one of the hottest online magazines around.

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  22. @Quartermaster
    More conspiracy theories posited as fact.

    Alas, Putinist Russia is dangerous to those who would criticize Putin's regime, or Putin himself. Putin is known for using accusations of tax evasion as an excuse for seizing certain businesses. If he has to, he has no compunction about jailing the proprietors, especially if they become politically active in opposition to Putin and his greater Russian schemes. Just ask Khodorkovsky.

    “Putin is known for using accusations of tax evasion as an excuse for seizing certain businesses.”

    And that would differentiate him from other countries’ tax authorities in what way?

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  23. @Rehmat
    Israel Shamir should have learned from his own experience that in the Zionist colonized "civilized West" there is no 'freedom of speech' for people who are disliked by the powerful Organized Jewry.

    For example, Europe's so-called cradle of 'freedom of speech' - France, where insulting Muslims and Islam had long been declared "freedom of speech" - but French Christians who tell the truth about Jewish history are persecuted.

    On Tuesday, a French court fined French philosopher Alain Soral $13,000 and six month suspended jail sentence for saying that Nazis should have finished killing the Jews of Europe.

    The sentence, handed down was over Soral’s Facebook post of last year about Romanian Serge Klarsfield, 80, and his German wife Beate Klarsfeld, 77, the so-called ‘Nazi hunter couple’. The legendary Nazi hunter Simon Wiesenthal was a Mossad agent according to Dalia Karpel, Ha’aretz, February 9, 2010.

    “This is what happens when you don’t finish the job,” Soral wrote about an article on a state honor of Federal Order of Merit conferred on the Klarsfelds by Germany last year. During the acceptance speech both parroted the “rising antisemitism in Europe” mantra.

    The judge found Soral guilty of “justifying war crimes and crimes against humanity.” In other words supporting Israeli rabbis that Jews are the only humans and the rest of six billion people were created to serve the 13 million Jews!

    The judge also ordered Soral to pay $5,600, to each of the Klarsfelds and $2,250, to the International League against Racism and Anti-Semitism, which filed the complaint against Soral for his Facebook post.

    In 2004, Alain Soral was fined $8,000 for insulting the Zionist Jewry.

    https://rehmat1.com/2016/06/19/french-philosopher-fined-27000-for-insulting-jews/

    This is exactly what I said: the US has more freedom of speech))

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    • Replies: @Rehmat
    NOPE - that's what you said morally.

    Did you ever questioned the SIX MILLION DIED or the 9/11 official story which have turned-out to be fraud?

    Have you met Afro-American Catholic professor Larycia Hawkins who was fired by Wheaton College for saying that "both Christians and Muslims worship the same God"?

    What I meant by your experience was the distortion your 2011 interview you gave to Will Yakowicz.

    https://rehmat1.com/2011/05/19/israel-shamir-lost-in-translation/
  24. @Quartermaster
    More conspiracy theories posited as fact.

    Alas, Putinist Russia is dangerous to those who would criticize Putin's regime, or Putin himself. Putin is known for using accusations of tax evasion as an excuse for seizing certain businesses. If he has to, he has no compunction about jailing the proprietors, especially if they become politically active in opposition to Putin and his greater Russian schemes. Just ask Khodorkovsky.

    In Russia, everybody criticises Putin. No danger at all. Andrey Nekrasov was a foremost critic of Putin, made him no harm. Russia has as much freedom of speech as Europe; still less than the US.

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  25. @Kiza
    I have written this before, but most US citizens think that CIA is a big bureaucracy which does secret stuff. Although this is partially true, there are also free-wheeling agents who work primarily for their own private or group interest (getting rich) and hopefully also in the Israeli and/or US national interest. Like in everything else, intelligence agencies are organised in a packing order: Mossad at the top, CIA working for Mossad, MI6 and BND working for CIA and so on. But most of the time these agencies both cooperate and compete and sometimes shaft each other (e.g. 911), from project to project.

    One small complaint within a great article. Israel says:


    One has to recognise that the US is second to none for freedom of speech on the globe.
     
    This is a wrong interpretation of what transpired. There are two reasons why the documentary could have been shown in the US but not in EU:
    1) EU is a lower level servant of the state of Israel than the US, and
    2) EU has the most draconian libel laws (especially UK), which make stating anything about a lawyered person prepared for lawfare too risky. Nothing to do with freedom of speech.

    The most interesting, previously unknown, detail to me in this article was that Browder's grandfather was the leader of the US Communist Party. This underlines Communism as primarily a Jewish movement world-wide.

    Dear Kiza, you provide an explanation, but the fact remains there: the US has more freedom of speech. Not as much as we would like, but indeed more than Europe, as you yourself explained. Still, David Duke had a spell (a year?) in jail for some strange reason.

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  26. After Maxwell, Browder switched allegiance to Edmond Safra, a very rich Jewish banker of Lebanese origin… The banker’s name has been connected to Mossad: increasingly fearful for his life, Safra surrounded himself by Mossad-trained gunmen. This did not help him: he died a horrible death in his bathroom when his villa was torched by one of the guards.

    Safra’s widow has had an interesting life … various patterns emerge … from wikipedia

    Lily Safra (née Watkins) is a Brazilian philanthropist and socialite who attained considerable wealth through her four marriages. By March 2013, her net worth was estimated at $1.2 billion; according to Forbes, she is one of the richest people in the world. Safra has a significant art collection and owns the historic Villa Leopolda on the French Riviera.

    Safra was born Lily Watkins on December 30, 1934, in Porto Alegre, Brazil, daughter of Wolf White Watkins, a Czechoslovak railway engineer who moved to South America, and Annita Noudelman de Castro, a Uruguayan of Russian-Jewish ancestry. She grew up in Rio de Janeiro but moved with her family to Uruguay.

    At the age of 17, she met and married Mario Cohen, an Argentine hosiery magnate of Italian-Jewish descent. They had three children: Claudio, Eduardo, and Adriana. (Claudio died with his three-year-old son in a car crash in Brazil ca. 1989.) Lily and Cohen divorced in the early 1960s.

    In 1965, she married Alfredo “Freddy” Monteverde, (formerly Greenberg). He was a Romanian Jewish immigrant who fled Europe in 1939 because of Nazi Germany’s persecution of Jews. He was a leader in the Brazilian household appliance distribution business, where he established the Ponto Frio brand. He and Lily adopted a child, named Carlos. In 1969, Monteverde committed suicide. According to biographer Isabel Vincent, Monteverde left all his assets to his wife.

    One month after her husband’s death, Lily Monteverde moved to London. Her late husband’s banker, Edmond Safra, helped her secure control over her late spouse’s entire fortune. She dated Safra for some time but the romance ended. Her family, who is of Ashkenazi Jewish descent, did not approve of her relationship with Safra, who was of Sephardic Jewish descent.

    In 1972, Monteverde married businessman Samuel Bendahan, also a Sephardic Jew. They separated after two weeks, and she divorced him after one year of marriage.

    In 1976, Monteverde married Edmond Safra after all.

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    • Replies: @5371
    [Wolf White Watkins, a Czechoslovak railway engineer]

    Shome mishtake here shurely
  27. Speaking of Maxwell, the English satirical Private Eye had a long running fight with Maxwell, whom they nicknamed Captain Bob (he was an avid sailor)- careful on the spelling there, Jones. He sued them for libel numerous times and they took to incorporating a new legal vehicle for each Issue at one point if they had good stuff on him.

    They of course had the last word, after he was found drowned after falling, drunk, off his boat, the PE headline was
    “Captain Bob, bob, bob”

    The word around town at the time was that Maxwell had been “suicided”

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  28. The US Congress rushed in the Magnitsky Act, the first salvo of the Cold War Two. By this act, any Russian person could be found responsible for Mr Magnitsky’s untimely death and for misappropriation of Browder’s assets. His properties could be seized, bank accounts frozen – without any legal process or representation. This act upset the Russians, who allegedly had kept a cool $500 billion in the Western banks, so tit for tat started, and it goes to this very day.

    Here is the real crime – the Jew control of our government.

    We expect Jews to be thieves and cheating money changers – that is a given – that is their cultural DNA. Jew dishonest greed is legendary.

    But here we see the US government – congress and the presidency – backing up Jew crime and Jew criminals. Look at all the evil that the Jew oligarchs did to Russia – a nation of hundreds of million people. Look at how America is turned and used by Jews.

    Here is the real truth – the giant crime of a tribe. Browder did not do this on his own – he had a criminal network of Jews backing him up. Browder had AIPAC, and J-Street, and the ADL, and your Jew neighbor backing him up.

    This is a JEW tribal crime. Thinking anything else is cowardly.

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  29. Muslim slavers and slave-owners castrated hundreds of thousands of black slaves.

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    • Replies: @anonymous
    I'd say that even worse than the castration was the starvation and maltreatment of male slaves along the desert trade routes; the majority coming from the bantu regions died on the way to their routes.
  30. @Lot

    his hacks re-wrote his Wikipedia entry, expunging even discussions of the topic
     
    Wikipedia talk pages are regularly archived so that only active discussions are on the main talk page. "Expunged" implies they were deleted and not available. In fact, the old talk pages for the article are all available one click away from the main talk page.

    Here, for example, is a much longer archived talk page for Browder:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bill_Browder&oldid=544048631

    Likewise, there seems to be no censorship of the article. Rather, like most wikipedia articles, over the years the article has slowly grown in length. The only substantial deletion from the article in the past 6 years was the recent deletion of a 4,000 word quotation from a source article. Such very long quotations are usually copyright violations and in any case are not good wikipedia style.

    In short, both your claim of wikipedia censorship and wikipedia "expunging" content are completely wrong.

    The wikipedia editor who made the deletion and is presumably the "hack" is an extremely prolific editor who has made more than 500 wikipedia edits in the past month and many thousands of edits since 2009, the first being on the articles "Protein folding" and "Chloride peroxidase."

    Now it is possible Browder has a long-time wikipedia super-editor as one of his "hacks," but if you are going to libel a person like this, some evidence should be presented.

    Wikipedia is highly controlled by supremacist Jew fanatics / Zionists, as are many other sites.

    see:
    Zionist Wikipedia Editing Course

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/139189

    Then there’s:
    Zionist attempt to control language:
    The Israel Project’s 2009 GLOBAL LANGUAGE DICTIONARY

    https://www.transcend.org/tms/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/sf-israel-projects-2009-global-language-dictionary.pdf

    The commander behind the pro-Israel student troops on U.S. college campuses

    http://www.haaretz.com/misc/article-print-page//.premium-1.709014

    Israel tech site paying “interns” to covertly plant stories in social media

    http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/asa-winstanley/israel-tech-site-paying-interns-covertly-plant-stories-social-media

    Israeli students to get $2,000 to spread state propaganda on Facebook

    http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/israeli-students-get-2000-spread-state-propaganda-facebook

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  31. @Realist
    "This is probably a uniquely Jewish quality: Jews outspend everybody in contributions to political figures. The Arabs will spend more on horses and jets, the Russians prefer real estate, the Jews like politicians."

    And this, boys and girls is why Jews call the shots and have for decades, probably centuries.

    And this, boys and girls is why Jews call the shots and have for decades, probably centuries.

    Now that is an understatement.

    Who demands mass immigration into white gentile countries, but stops non-Jew immigration into “that shitty little country”?
    Who runs the Federal Reserve?
    Who runs Wall Street?
    Who owns the US Congress?
    Who owns the White House?
    Who forces acceptance of the fictitious & impossible ’6M & gas chambers’?
    Who runs the media / entertainment?
    Who runs the music business?
    Who dominates ‘academia’?
    Why is AIPAC the most powerful, dominant lobby, which regularly writes the text of Congressional bills and resolutions?
    Who is it that wants to censor free speech via the “hate speech” canard?
    Who is it that demands we shed the blood of US troops for their interests?
    Who are the real & biggest racists on the planet?

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  32. @empty

    After Maxwell, Browder switched allegiance to Edmond Safra, a very rich Jewish banker of Lebanese origin... The banker’s name has been connected to Mossad: increasingly fearful for his life, Safra surrounded himself by Mossad-trained gunmen. This did not help him: he died a horrible death in his bathroom when his villa was torched by one of the guards.
     
    Safra's widow has had an interesting life ... various patterns emerge ... from wikipedia

    Lily Safra (née Watkins) is a Brazilian philanthropist and socialite who attained considerable wealth through her four marriages. By March 2013, her net worth was estimated at $1.2 billion; according to Forbes, she is one of the richest people in the world. Safra has a significant art collection and owns the historic Villa Leopolda on the French Riviera.

    Safra was born Lily Watkins on December 30, 1934, in Porto Alegre, Brazil, daughter of Wolf White Watkins, a Czechoslovak railway engineer who moved to South America, and Annita Noudelman de Castro, a Uruguayan of Russian-Jewish ancestry. She grew up in Rio de Janeiro but moved with her family to Uruguay.

    At the age of 17, she met and married Mario Cohen, an Argentine hosiery magnate of Italian-Jewish descent. They had three children: Claudio, Eduardo, and Adriana. (Claudio died with his three-year-old son in a car crash in Brazil ca. 1989.) Lily and Cohen divorced in the early 1960s.

    In 1965, she married Alfredo "Freddy" Monteverde, (formerly Greenberg). He was a Romanian Jewish immigrant who fled Europe in 1939 because of Nazi Germany's persecution of Jews. He was a leader in the Brazilian household appliance distribution business, where he established the Ponto Frio brand. He and Lily adopted a child, named Carlos. In 1969, Monteverde committed suicide. According to biographer Isabel Vincent, Monteverde left all his assets to his wife.

    One month after her husband's death, Lily Monteverde moved to London. Her late husband's banker, Edmond Safra, helped her secure control over her late spouse's entire fortune. She dated Safra for some time but the romance ended. Her family, who is of Ashkenazi Jewish descent, did not approve of her relationship with Safra, who was of Sephardic Jewish descent.

    In 1972, Monteverde married businessman Samuel Bendahan, also a Sephardic Jew. They separated after two weeks, and she divorced him after one year of marriage.

    In 1976, Monteverde married Edmond Safra after all.
     

    [Wolf White Watkins, a Czechoslovak railway engineer]

    Shome mishtake here shurely

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  33. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Tom Welsh
    My, we are disempowered, aren't we? Amid a plethora of articles and books suggesting that Jewish people conspire together to enrich themselves, buy politicians and control governments, no one dares say a word - unless, like Mr Shamir, they are themselves Jewish. Even then there is a definite risk, which I thank and applaud Mr Shamir for taking.

    Are we talking about the same Browder? If this one is the son of Earl Browder, former head of CPUSA in the thirties, we need to note that EB was born in Kansas to a farmer who was also a Methodist minister. Earl Browder was, to my knowledge, a Unitarian until he shucked religion for Communism.

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    • Replies: @LG
    Please look up the background of his mother, Raisa Berkman
    , @Anonymous
    Earl married Raissa Berkman, a Russian Jew in about 1929 while on a trip to the USSR. Bill's father was likely raised as an ethnic Jew and may have married Jewish as well, which would make Bill a Jew.

    Earl and Bill are cousins to me, falling in my Browder family lines through one of my GG Grandmothers, Victoria Louella Browder.
  34. Incredible–well, not really–that our mainstream media resolutely refuses to print, much less discuss, the two main pieces of information here:

    1. Browder was the one who gained most from Magnitsky’s death as evidenced by the interview in which the latter asserted a fear of being killed by Browder.

    2. Nekrasov, the film’s director, has a history of making films very critical of Putin and the Russian government and state.

    US media coverage either omits any mention of these two points or buries allusions to them in the article. The NYT piece on Browder’s attempt to block the film’s screening at the Newseum in Washington was filed in the “Europe” section of the paper.

    Freedom of speech is under assault in the West and, again and again, we see the common denominator of these despicable efforts to suppress key information.

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  35. @Anonymous
    Are we talking about the same Browder? If this one is the son of Earl Browder, former head of CPUSA in the thirties, we need to note that EB was born in Kansas to a farmer who was also a Methodist minister. Earl Browder was, to my knowledge, a Unitarian until he shucked religion for Communism.

    Please look up the background of his mother, Raisa Berkman

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  36. Israel Shamir: Why do you and some commenters write about Browder being Jewish if his dad, Earl Browder of the CPUSA, was born into a Kansas Methodist farm family? What gives in your research?

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    Earl was his grandfather, and the rest of Bill's parentage was Jewish. More to the point, he himself considers himself Jewish as the piece in the Jewish Chronicle (referred in the article) makes clear.
  37. 1/ ‘… The Untouchable Mr. Browder?…’

    No problem. Just wait till he dies and then put him on trial. Worked for Magnitsky didn’t it? So why the fuss?

    2/ As to wikipedia edits-here’s a wikipedia article with obviously very few edits you can work on:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posthumous_trial

    Only one (Magnitsky) posthumous trial in the last few centuries? That can’t be right, can it?

    3/ Sorry folks but Putin bungled. You can’t condemn Browder without condemning Magnitsky and very few (sane) people will condemn the ‘defendant’ in a post-mortem trial.

    Giving him not one but two lawyers in his trial (one who wore a t-shirt during the proceedings). Nice touch.

    4/Should in the future Shamir question the justice system of any other country, remember, he thinks post-mortem trials are just fine. In fact, he endorsed the verdict in one.

    5/ In the distant past when a person committed a capital crime while riding a horse, it was not impossible to put the horse on trial as well. Ha, ha, ha, boy is that ridiculous, putting a horse on trial. Almost as ridiculous as, as, as, well, putting a corpse on trial.

    6/ If you want to link Jews with a clear victim of injustice (Magnitsky) go ahead.

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    • Replies: @5371
    To hold a posthumous trial of an individual to establish the facts of the case sounds very like holding a "trial of the facts" while he is alive but reportedly too senile to be put in the dock in an actual trial. And most unluckily for anony-rats, the latter procedure was exactly that which the justice system of perfidious Albion was going to apply to the great and good "Lord" Greville Janner, shining light among British Jews, pioneering holocaust-propagandist and alleged sexual abuser of dozens of children, had he not conveniently passed on to the great big orphanage in the sky.
    , @annamaria
    "Sorry folks but Putin bungled." - What has Putin to do with the holy Browder?

    "If you want to link Jews with a clear victim of injustice..."
    Enjoy:
    "Known Pedophile is Instrumental in Promoting Holocaust Hoaxer and Plagiarizer Denis Avey's New Book:" http://carolynyeager.net/book/export/html/96
    “There is credible evidence that this man carried out some of the most serious sex crimes imaginable over three decades against children who were highly vulnerable and the majority of whom were in care.” http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2016/01/remembering-greville-janner-on-holocaust-memorial-day/

  38. anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Svigor
    Muslim slavers and slave-owners castrated hundreds of thousands of black slaves.

    I’d say that even worse than the castration was the starvation and maltreatment of male slaves along the desert trade routes; the majority coming from the bantu regions died on the way to their routes.

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  39. @Wally
    "And this, boys and girls is why Jews call the shots and have for decades, probably centuries."

    Now that is an understatement.


    Who demands mass immigration into white gentile countries, but stops non-Jew immigration into “that shitty little country”?
    Who runs the Federal Reserve?
    Who runs Wall Street?
    Who owns the US Congress?
    Who owns the White House?
    Who forces acceptance of the fictitious & impossible ’6M & gas chambers’?
    Who runs the media / entertainment?
    Who runs the music business?
    Who dominates ‘academia’?
    Why is AIPAC the most powerful, dominant lobby, which regularly writes the text of Congressional bills and resolutions?
    Who is it that wants to censor free speech via the “hate speech” canard?
    Who is it that demands we shed the blood of US troops for their interests?
    Who are the real & biggest racists on the planet?
     

    I said what you said….concisely

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  40. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Anonymous
    Are we talking about the same Browder? If this one is the son of Earl Browder, former head of CPUSA in the thirties, we need to note that EB was born in Kansas to a farmer who was also a Methodist minister. Earl Browder was, to my knowledge, a Unitarian until he shucked religion for Communism.

    Earl married Raissa Berkman, a Russian Jew in about 1929 while on a trip to the USSR. Bill’s father was likely raised as an ethnic Jew and may have married Jewish as well, which would make Bill a Jew.

    Earl and Bill are cousins to me, falling in my Browder family lines through one of my GG Grandmothers, Victoria Louella Browder.

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    • Replies: @Seraphim
    He is presented as Jew:

    "Vladimir Putin is no friend of the Jews. So says William Browder, the American-born Jewish tycoon who describes himself as the leader's "number one enemy" in his book: Red Notice."
    "He married his first wife in Marble Arch Synagogue and his son (Joshua) was barmitzvahed; a ceremony he never had."
    @http://www.thejc.com/arts/books/148889/be-careful-putin-he-a-true-enemy-jews

    He might not have been raised as a "Jew" (meaning practicing), Communists being professed 'atheists'. But it most likely that he frequented Jewish milieux (which probably pushed him).

    , @5371
    Did he ever share any of the loot with you gentile relatives?
  41. @anony-mouse
    1/ '... The Untouchable Mr. Browder?...'

    No problem. Just wait till he dies and then put him on trial. Worked for Magnitsky didn't it? So why the fuss?

    2/ As to wikipedia edits-here's a wikipedia article with obviously very few edits you can work on:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posthumous_trial

    Only one (Magnitsky) posthumous trial in the last few centuries? That can't be right, can it?

    3/ Sorry folks but Putin bungled. You can't condemn Browder without condemning Magnitsky and very few (sane) people will condemn the 'defendant' in a post-mortem trial.

    Giving him not one but two lawyers in his trial (one who wore a t-shirt during the proceedings). Nice touch.

    4/Should in the future Shamir question the justice system of any other country, remember, he thinks post-mortem trials are just fine. In fact, he endorsed the verdict in one.

    5/ In the distant past when a person committed a capital crime while riding a horse, it was not impossible to put the horse on trial as well. Ha, ha, ha, boy is that ridiculous, putting a horse on trial. Almost as ridiculous as, as, as, well, putting a corpse on trial.

    6/ If you want to link Jews with a clear victim of injustice (Magnitsky) go ahead.

    To hold a posthumous trial of an individual to establish the facts of the case sounds very like holding a “trial of the facts” while he is alive but reportedly too senile to be put in the dock in an actual trial. And most unluckily for anony-rats, the latter procedure was exactly that which the justice system of perfidious Albion was going to apply to the great and good “Lord” Greville Janner, shining light among British Jews, pioneering holocaust-propagandist and alleged sexual abuser of dozens of children, had he not conveniently passed on to the great big orphanage in the sky.

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    The establishment surely closed ranks around Janner, whom I had the distinct inconvenience of shaking hands with once, at a speech arranged by some club or the other at my alma mater in the latish 90s. That he was a buggerer of little boys had already made the rounds, yet it was with astonishing ease the good Lord Janner managed to negotiate his way around Labour/lefty social circles. "trial of the facts" was all they could muster and in keeping with the impunity that marked several decades of his activities, Janner passed as you say, to the big orphanage upstairs. I am also reminded, 'as it 'appens' of Jimmy Savile who similarly managed to give CPS the slip (?); his preference, if memory serves was for little girls, apparently on occasion arranged in a row.
    , @anony-mouse
    1/ Of course, as you point out once he died there was no question of having a trial-which backs my position-no sane justice system would put a dead person on trial-and none have for centuries until Magnitsky.

    2/ I'm pleased though with 2 things:

    a/ that you think that 'anony-rat' is an argument.

    b/ that you (along with many others here) are backing Shamir in justifying in some way a post-mortem trial.

    In the distant future when people look back on this trial they're going to react like we do today to the idea of trying horses for the crimes of their owners. Why not?

    Can't be sure what they'll make of the defenders of such a trial, but I can guess.

  42. @Rehmat
    Israel Shamir should have learned from his own experience that in the Zionist colonized "civilized West" there is no 'freedom of speech' for people who are disliked by the powerful Organized Jewry.

    For example, Europe's so-called cradle of 'freedom of speech' - France, where insulting Muslims and Islam had long been declared "freedom of speech" - but French Christians who tell the truth about Jewish history are persecuted.

    On Tuesday, a French court fined French philosopher Alain Soral $13,000 and six month suspended jail sentence for saying that Nazis should have finished killing the Jews of Europe.

    The sentence, handed down was over Soral’s Facebook post of last year about Romanian Serge Klarsfield, 80, and his German wife Beate Klarsfeld, 77, the so-called ‘Nazi hunter couple’. The legendary Nazi hunter Simon Wiesenthal was a Mossad agent according to Dalia Karpel, Ha’aretz, February 9, 2010.

    “This is what happens when you don’t finish the job,” Soral wrote about an article on a state honor of Federal Order of Merit conferred on the Klarsfelds by Germany last year. During the acceptance speech both parroted the “rising antisemitism in Europe” mantra.

    The judge found Soral guilty of “justifying war crimes and crimes against humanity.” In other words supporting Israeli rabbis that Jews are the only humans and the rest of six billion people were created to serve the 13 million Jews!

    The judge also ordered Soral to pay $5,600, to each of the Klarsfelds and $2,250, to the International League against Racism and Anti-Semitism, which filed the complaint against Soral for his Facebook post.

    In 2004, Alain Soral was fined $8,000 for insulting the Zionist Jewry.

    https://rehmat1.com/2016/06/19/french-philosopher-fined-27000-for-insulting-jews/

    In relation to Serge Klarsfeld (not a Romanian, but “born in Bucharest to a family of Romanian Jews” – Wikipedia) Wikipedia gives some interesting details:

    “In 2012 the archivist of the Stasi revealed that Klarsfeld’s attack on the chancellor was carried out in agreement with and the support of the government of East Germany, which was conducting a campaign against West German politicians (see Braunbuch). Beate Klarsfeld was paid 2,000 DM by the Stasi for her actions. Both Serge and Beate Klarsfeld were revealed to have been regular Stasi contacts. According to the State Commissioner for the Stasi Archives of Saxony, they cooperated with the Stasi in the 1960s in blackmailing West German politicians for Second World War activities… The cooperation of both Beate and Serge Klarsfeld with the Stasi and their status as contacts was also documented in a new book by former Stasi officers, Günter Bohnsack and Herbert Brehmer.”

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  43. @NewModelArmy
    Israel Shamir: Why do you and some commenters write about Browder being Jewish if his dad, Earl Browder of the CPUSA, was born into a Kansas Methodist farm family? What gives in your research?

    Earl was his grandfather, and the rest of Bill’s parentage was Jewish. More to the point, he himself considers himself Jewish as the piece in the Jewish Chronicle (referred in the article) makes clear.

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  44. @Anonymous
    Earl married Raissa Berkman, a Russian Jew in about 1929 while on a trip to the USSR. Bill's father was likely raised as an ethnic Jew and may have married Jewish as well, which would make Bill a Jew.

    Earl and Bill are cousins to me, falling in my Browder family lines through one of my GG Grandmothers, Victoria Louella Browder.

    He is presented as Jew:

    “Vladimir Putin is no friend of the Jews. So says William Browder, the American-born Jewish tycoon who describes himself as the leader’s “number one enemy” in his book: Red Notice.”
    “He married his first wife in Marble Arch Synagogue and his son (Joshua) was barmitzvahed; a ceremony he never had.”
    @http://www.thejc.com/arts/books/148889/be-careful-putin-he-a-true-enemy-jews

    He might not have been raised as a “Jew” (meaning practicing), Communists being professed ‘atheists’. But it most likely that he frequented Jewish milieux (which probably pushed him).

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  45. How funny to hear people question Browder’s Jewishness, in the Unz comments section of all places. Lest there be any doubt, he, himself, very much identified as being a Jew, to the extent that he had a Mezuzah on his office doorway and hired only Jewish employees.

    Concerning Magnitsky’s indeed unusual posthumous trial, this was actually at the behest of his own mother who refused to sign the legal papers closing the criminal case due to his death. This is usually a mere formality. However, the Russian legal system is a stickler for the letter of the law and so the trial went ahead. His mother’s motivation was unclear, though it probably had something to do with extra publicity.

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  46. @Anonymous
    Earl married Raissa Berkman, a Russian Jew in about 1929 while on a trip to the USSR. Bill's father was likely raised as an ethnic Jew and may have married Jewish as well, which would make Bill a Jew.

    Earl and Bill are cousins to me, falling in my Browder family lines through one of my GG Grandmothers, Victoria Louella Browder.

    Did he ever share any of the loot with you gentile relatives?

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  47. When I first became aware of Mr. Browder a number of years ago, I was curious about his name, since I was aware of Earl Browder, the former head of the American Communist Party when I was growing up. After I subsequently learned of the familial connection, I was highly amused to discover the leap from Communist to capitalist in three generations. But then I recalled that Dr. Armand Hammer, eventually the controlling shareholder of Occidental Petroleum, had a father who was also a doctor, an emigrant from Odessa, and a founder of the Communist Party U.S.A. That was a mere two generations to make the leap from Communist to capitalist.

    A few years ago I happened to read an amusing memoir of the girl who was my date to my high school prom but who went on to achieve a modest fame and acquaintance with many prominent Americans and foreigners. (I am being intentionally vague.) When I was dating her in high school and college, I operated under the false assumption that her mother (whom I met) was Jewish and her natural father (whom I never met); I met her stepfather, who was Jewish) was Catholic, which I thought was kind of cool, since I was totally nonreligious. You can imagine my disappointment to learn nearly a half century later that both of her natural parents were Jewish. Elsewhere in her memoir, my friend referred to her mother’s sister, who was a member of the Communist Party and got caught up in the Hollywood blacklist and lost her job. (That was the first I heard of it, btw.) Things turned out well for her since she hooked up with and married a wealthy Jewish doctor, who left her a sizable fortune when he died. She eventually moved to Israel where she found nirvana, marrying a much younger man and enjoying late in life “fantastic sex.” So, it appears that what motivates many young Communists is the dream of becoming fantastically wealthy and enjoying life as a plutocrat, not the BS of improving life for the downtrodden. If I weren’t such a natural skeptic, I would have been very disillusioned, but not as much as I was to discover late in life that her father was Jewish and not Catholic. Apologies to all those women I dated in my 20′s and 30′s whom I regaled with the story of my half-Jewish, half-Catholic prom date.

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    Sounds a lot like Ayn Rand.
    , @Seraphim
    It became tedious to evoke the murky relations of Bolshevism with the Jewish bank cartel in the financing of Lenin, Trotsky &Co by Jacob Schiff ("a banker who grew up in House of Rothschild Frankfurt, monopolized American rail system, funded the Rockefellers through First City Bank, ADL and the NAACP. Schiff's granddaughter married Al Gore's Son"... From his base on Wall Street, he was the foremost Jewish leader from 1880 to 1920 in what later became known as the "Schiff era", grappling with all major Jewish issues and problems of the day, including the plight of Russian Jews under the Tsar, American and international anti-semitism, care of needy Jewish immigrants, and the rise of Zionism" - per Wikipedia), and Warburg ("Paul Warburg was a planner for the U.S. Federal Reserve System which is a collection of private banks, and attended as American representative, the Treaty of Versailles conference, where his brother Max was on the German side of the bargaining table"...by Wiki). One can see why Lenin was 'permitted' to pass through Germany!

    Schiff financed the Japanese for their attack on Russia ("He... extended loans to the Empire of Japan in the amount of $200 million, through Kuhn, Loeb & Co... Schiff saw this loan as a means of answering, on behalf of the Jewish people, the anti-Semitic actions of the Russian Empire, specifically the then-recent Kishinev pogrom"), the 1905 Revolution and the 1917 Revolution. "In addition to his famous loan to Japan, Schiff financed loans to many other nations, including those that would come to comprise the Central Powers... Schiff made sure none of the funds from his loans ever went to the Russian Empire, which he felt oppressed Jewish people. When the Russian Empire fell in 1917, Schiff believed that the oppression of Jews would end. He formally repealed the impediments within his firm against lending to Russia". It's true that Communist Russia quickly opened the door for foreign investment (NEP) and the looting of Russia.
    When Stalin tried to reduce USSR's dependence on foreign investments, he became instantly the monster. It is remarkable that America stood behind Trotsky in the case of the so-called "Show Trials" (The Dewey Commission).
    Particularly interesting is that (per Wikipedia);
    "Some ten years later, the Dewey Commission was cited in great detail, when in an open letter to the British press dated 25 February 1946, written by George Orwell and signed by Arthur Koestler, C. E. M. Joad, Frank Horrabin, George Padmore, Julian Symons, H. G. Wells, F. A. Ridley, C. A. Smith and John Baird, among others, it was suggested that the Nuremberg Trials then underway were an invaluable opportunity for establishing "historical truth and bearing upon the political integrity" of figures of international standing. Specifically, they called for Rudolf Hess to be interrogated about his alleged meeting with Trotsky and that the Gestapo records then in the hands of Allied experts be examined for any proof of any "liaison between the Nazi Party or State and Trotsky or the other old Bolshevik leaders indicted at the Moscow trials..."

    , @Sam Shama
    It occurred to me to ask you if you thought her ideological metamorphosis had had in part, resulted from the entry of Alan Greenspan in their midst ;-) ?

    Great story to captivate your company no doubt!
  48. @5371
    To hold a posthumous trial of an individual to establish the facts of the case sounds very like holding a "trial of the facts" while he is alive but reportedly too senile to be put in the dock in an actual trial. And most unluckily for anony-rats, the latter procedure was exactly that which the justice system of perfidious Albion was going to apply to the great and good "Lord" Greville Janner, shining light among British Jews, pioneering holocaust-propagandist and alleged sexual abuser of dozens of children, had he not conveniently passed on to the great big orphanage in the sky.

    The establishment surely closed ranks around Janner, whom I had the distinct inconvenience of shaking hands with once, at a speech arranged by some club or the other at my alma mater in the latish 90s. That he was a buggerer of little boys had already made the rounds, yet it was with astonishing ease the good Lord Janner managed to negotiate his way around Labour/lefty social circles. “trial of the facts” was all they could muster and in keeping with the impunity that marked several decades of his activities, Janner passed as you say, to the big orphanage upstairs. I am also reminded, ‘as it ‘appens’ of Jimmy Savile who similarly managed to give CPS the slip (?); his preference, if memory serves was for little girls, apparently on occasion arranged in a row.

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  49. Wikipedia can be crooked.
    From my own experience.
    I contacted Wikipedia with some serious complaints about an article discussing a court decision, which presented opinion as being fact. .
    Wikipedia almost immediately replied, disputing my complaint about the content.
    When I immediately returned to the article, the sections about which I complained were gone, and the whole article had been re written, except for remaining one identifier critical line.
    Very fast work, indeed.
    My mistake was in not saving the original article, and printing it.
    Wikipedia would never admit to its informational “crime.”
    Obviously Wikipedia admitted guilt by first grossly changing the article, and then refusing to admit to that.
    On any critical issue, never trust Wikipedia.
    This is always a big problem with anything not published and distributed on paper .
    Unless you are searching not for light, but for the darkness.

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  50. Andrei Martyanov [AKA "SmoothieX12"] says: • Website     Show CommentNext New Comment

    For two years lawyers tried to give him a summons, but he was a quick runner. There are funny videos showing Browder running away from summons.

    I thoroughly enjoyed the video:-)

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  51. “Yet Schroeder’s employment in an oil-gas venture that is 51 percent owned by Gazprom no more makes Schroeder a Russian prostitute than big campaign contributions to Lantos from the Washington PAC make him a whore for Israel. Presumably, Schroeder believes trade with Russia is in Germany’s (and Europe’s) interests, just as Lantos thinks America’s current policy of unconditional support for Israel is good for America.

    http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2007/06/27/tom-lantos-warmonger/

    As is often the case with AP’s coverage of news having to do with Israel, there’s a serious omission in its reporting on the Russia-Israel connection even when it involves oil and the United States.

    The day after the State of the Union Address, two Interpol fugitives attended the “National Prayer Breakfast” held in Washington DC. The day before that, these fugitives from the law were the guests of honor at an hour-long meeting of the International Relations Committee on Capitol Hill, invited by ranking Democrat Tom Lantos (Calif.)

    You would think it would be hot news when wanted men being hunted by European police suddenly pop up in the US particularly on Capitol Hill and at events attended by the US president.

    Yet, there was not a single AP story in the US on any of this. [1] Not a single national network television or radio news program even mentioned these facts. In fact, Google and LexisNexis searches four days after these events took place turned up only three newspaper articles on them anywhere in the entire country. [2]

    Who are these fugitives from the law, wanted by Interpol, who are meeting at the highest levels of the US government? And why didn’t we learn of them?

    Therein lies the story. These two men, it turns out, are just the tips of a colossal iceberg. And this iceberg doesn’t just have 90 percent of its mass hidden under water; this iceberg is almost entirely submerged.

    They are Mikhail Brudno and Vladimir Dubov, Israeli-Russian partners in the giant Russian oil company Yukos. They, along with a number of their cronies, are wanted by Interpol for allegedly bilking Russian citizens out of billions of dollars. To elude Russian prosecution, these men have taken up residence in Israel. [3]

    As the Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz explains: “In recent years Russian authorities began investigating [Yukos], its managers and major stockholders, many of whom are of Jewish origin. The probes caused several of the managers to flee to Israel, and resulted in Khodorkovski’s [Yukos CEO] arrest and a Kremlin attack on Yukos.”

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2005/02/17/russia-israel-and-media-omissions/

    I will suspect Tom Lantos was taking money from these fugitives

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    As is often the case with AP’s coverage of news having to do with Israel, there’s a serious omission in its reporting on the Russia-Israel connection even when it involves oil and the United States.
     
    The AP (All Propaganda) is always pro Jew/Israel on everything domestic and foreign - you do not write bad things about Jews/Israel if you are published by the AP - PERIOD.
  52. @Astuteobservor II
    damn, this fucker and madoff is like what everyone in the world hates about jews come to life.

    If I were jewish, I would want to distance my self as far away as possible, that taint is real.

    Yes, it’s Abe and Izzy who run the shoe store on Main Street, pay their bills and their taxes and struggle to make ends meet and are true to their wives and help their kids with their homework, who’ll pay the price.

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    • Replies: @DaveE
    Yeah, yeah, the "eternal victim" thing.

    Jews have had 100 years to stand up for the Palestinians, 100 years to admit they destroyed Russia, took out Germany..... 15 years to stand for 9/11 Truth.... the theft of the Fed, the USS Liberty, Pollard, Lavon Affair...... Meyer Lansky, Bugsy Siegel, Morgenthau, the entire Rosenfeld Administration..... it just goes on and on and on.

    How long should Abe and Lizzy have to "come clean"?
  53. @5371
    To hold a posthumous trial of an individual to establish the facts of the case sounds very like holding a "trial of the facts" while he is alive but reportedly too senile to be put in the dock in an actual trial. And most unluckily for anony-rats, the latter procedure was exactly that which the justice system of perfidious Albion was going to apply to the great and good "Lord" Greville Janner, shining light among British Jews, pioneering holocaust-propagandist and alleged sexual abuser of dozens of children, had he not conveniently passed on to the great big orphanage in the sky.

    1/ Of course, as you point out once he died there was no question of having a trial-which backs my position-no sane justice system would put a dead person on trial-and none have for centuries until Magnitsky.

    2/ I’m pleased though with 2 things:

    a/ that you think that ‘anony-rat’ is an argument.

    b/ that you (along with many others here) are backing Shamir in justifying in some way a post-mortem trial.

    In the distant future when people look back on this trial they’re going to react like we do today to the idea of trying horses for the crimes of their owners. Why not?

    Can’t be sure what they’ll make of the defenders of such a trial, but I can guess.

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    • Replies: @5371
    [no sane justice system would put a dead person on trial]

    Because, I presume, no dead person can in any way be made to answer for his actions. So why, slow-witted rodent, was the English justice system going to have a trial when the possibility of making the protagonist answer for his actions in any way had been excluded?

  54. @bunga
    "Yet Schroeder’s employment in an oil-gas venture that is 51 percent owned by Gazprom no more makes Schroeder a Russian prostitute than big campaign contributions to Lantos from the Washington PAC make him a whore for Israel. Presumably, Schroeder believes trade with Russia is in Germany’s (and Europe’s) interests, just as Lantos thinks America’s current policy of unconditional support for Israel is good for America.


    http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2007/06/27/tom-lantos-warmonger/



    As is often the case with AP’s coverage of news having to do with Israel, there’s a serious omission in its reporting on the Russia-Israel connection even when it involves oil and the United States.

    The day after the State of the Union Address, two Interpol fugitives attended the “National Prayer Breakfast” held in Washington DC. The day before that, these fugitives from the law were the guests of honor at an hour-long meeting of the International Relations Committee on Capitol Hill, invited by ranking Democrat Tom Lantos (Calif.)

    You would think it would be hot news when wanted men being hunted by European police suddenly pop up in the US particularly on Capitol Hill and at events attended by the US president.

    Yet, there was not a single AP story in the US on any of this. [1] Not a single national network television or radio news program even mentioned these facts. In fact, Google and LexisNexis searches four days after these events took place turned up only three newspaper articles on them anywhere in the entire country. [2]

    Who are these fugitives from the law, wanted by Interpol, who are meeting at the highest levels of the US government? And why didn’t we learn of them?

    Therein lies the story. These two men, it turns out, are just the tips of a colossal iceberg. And this iceberg doesn’t just have 90 percent of its mass hidden under water; this iceberg is almost entirely submerged.

    They are Mikhail Brudno and Vladimir Dubov, Israeli-Russian partners in the giant Russian oil company Yukos. They, along with a number of their cronies, are wanted by Interpol for allegedly bilking Russian citizens out of billions of dollars. To elude Russian prosecution, these men have taken up residence in Israel. [3]

    As the Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz explains: “In recent years Russian authorities began investigating [Yukos], its managers and major stockholders, many of whom are of Jewish origin. The probes caused several of the managers to flee to Israel, and resulted in Khodorkovski’s [Yukos CEO] arrest and a Kremlin attack on Yukos.”

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2005/02/17/russia-israel-and-media-omissions/


    I will suspect Tom Lantos was taking money from these fugitives

    As is often the case with AP’s coverage of news having to do with Israel, there’s a serious omission in its reporting on the Russia-Israel connection even when it involves oil and the United States.

    The AP (All Propaganda) is always pro Jew/Israel on everything domestic and foreign – you do not write bad things about Jews/Israel if you are published by the AP – PERIOD.

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  55. @tbraton
    When I first became aware of Mr. Browder a number of years ago, I was curious about his name, since I was aware of Earl Browder, the former head of the American Communist Party when I was growing up. After I subsequently learned of the familial connection, I was highly amused to discover the leap from Communist to capitalist in three generations. But then I recalled that Dr. Armand Hammer, eventually the controlling shareholder of Occidental Petroleum, had a father who was also a doctor, an emigrant from Odessa, and a founder of the Communist Party U.S.A. That was a mere two generations to make the leap from Communist to capitalist.

    A few years ago I happened to read an amusing memoir of the girl who was my date to my high school prom but who went on to achieve a modest fame and acquaintance with many prominent Americans and foreigners. (I am being intentionally vague.) When I was dating her in high school and college, I operated under the false assumption that her mother (whom I met) was Jewish and her natural father (whom I never met); I met her stepfather, who was Jewish) was Catholic, which I thought was kind of cool, since I was totally nonreligious. You can imagine my disappointment to learn nearly a half century later that both of her natural parents were Jewish. Elsewhere in her memoir, my friend referred to her mother's sister, who was a member of the Communist Party and got caught up in the Hollywood blacklist and lost her job. (That was the first I heard of it, btw.) Things turned out well for her since she hooked up with and married a wealthy Jewish doctor, who left her a sizable fortune when he died. She eventually moved to Israel where she found nirvana, marrying a much younger man and enjoying late in life "fantastic sex." So, it appears that what motivates many young Communists is the dream of becoming fantastically wealthy and enjoying life as a plutocrat, not the BS of improving life for the downtrodden. If I weren't such a natural skeptic, I would have been very disillusioned, but not as much as I was to discover late in life that her father was Jewish and not Catholic. Apologies to all those women I dated in my 20's and 30's whom I regaled with the story of my half-Jewish, half-Catholic prom date.

    Sounds a lot like Ayn Rand.

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    "Sounds a lot like Ayn Rand."

    I assume you are referring to the aunt, who was a Communist in Hollywood. As I indicated in my message, the first I learned about her aunt was from reading the memoir a few years ago.

    With respect to the memoir, I had the uneasy feeling when I read it that it was not altogether truthful. I am mentioned briefly in the memoir, and the few pages were very flattering, so I have nothing to complain about. But some of the details are wrong, which led me to speculate that, if she got our story wrong whether accidentally or deliberately, the details of the numerous other stories in her book could also be untrustworthy. I posted in detail about my friend's memoir on Rod Dreher's blog dealing with Lena Dunham's "memoir" about a year and a half ago. See http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/liar-lena-dunham/comment-page-2/#comment-7047604

    My friend's memoir ostensibly was written by her, not a "as told to" book. It is very well written and very funny, and, as far as I know, it is the first book written by her. And, while her talents lie in areas other than writing, her memoir refers to her close friendship over the years with a man noted for his writing ability, and I suspect that he played a major role in reviewing and editing my friend's "memoir." (Within the past few years, my older first cousin who is in her late 80's and who graduated from Radcliffe in the late 40's wrote a book based on her late mother's experience growing up in rural Greece in the early part of the 20th century before coming to America. I was impressed with my cousin's effort and actually learned a lot about my family, but I could tell she had little experience writing books since the book did not flow easily and could have used some editing by a professional writer. My friend's memoir, on the other hand, has a very professional touch to it, is tightly written and is very entertaining.)
  56. @tbraton
    When I first became aware of Mr. Browder a number of years ago, I was curious about his name, since I was aware of Earl Browder, the former head of the American Communist Party when I was growing up. After I subsequently learned of the familial connection, I was highly amused to discover the leap from Communist to capitalist in three generations. But then I recalled that Dr. Armand Hammer, eventually the controlling shareholder of Occidental Petroleum, had a father who was also a doctor, an emigrant from Odessa, and a founder of the Communist Party U.S.A. That was a mere two generations to make the leap from Communist to capitalist.

    A few years ago I happened to read an amusing memoir of the girl who was my date to my high school prom but who went on to achieve a modest fame and acquaintance with many prominent Americans and foreigners. (I am being intentionally vague.) When I was dating her in high school and college, I operated under the false assumption that her mother (whom I met) was Jewish and her natural father (whom I never met); I met her stepfather, who was Jewish) was Catholic, which I thought was kind of cool, since I was totally nonreligious. You can imagine my disappointment to learn nearly a half century later that both of her natural parents were Jewish. Elsewhere in her memoir, my friend referred to her mother's sister, who was a member of the Communist Party and got caught up in the Hollywood blacklist and lost her job. (That was the first I heard of it, btw.) Things turned out well for her since she hooked up with and married a wealthy Jewish doctor, who left her a sizable fortune when he died. She eventually moved to Israel where she found nirvana, marrying a much younger man and enjoying late in life "fantastic sex." So, it appears that what motivates many young Communists is the dream of becoming fantastically wealthy and enjoying life as a plutocrat, not the BS of improving life for the downtrodden. If I weren't such a natural skeptic, I would have been very disillusioned, but not as much as I was to discover late in life that her father was Jewish and not Catholic. Apologies to all those women I dated in my 20's and 30's whom I regaled with the story of my half-Jewish, half-Catholic prom date.

    It became tedious to evoke the murky relations of Bolshevism with the Jewish bank cartel in the financing of Lenin, Trotsky &Co by Jacob Schiff (“a banker who grew up in House of Rothschild Frankfurt, monopolized American rail system, funded the Rockefellers through First City Bank, ADL and the NAACP. Schiff’s granddaughter married Al Gore’s Son”… From his base on Wall Street, he was the foremost Jewish leader from 1880 to 1920 in what later became known as the “Schiff era”, grappling with all major Jewish issues and problems of the day, including the plight of Russian Jews under the Tsar, American and international anti-semitism, care of needy Jewish immigrants, and the rise of Zionism” – per Wikipedia), and Warburg (“Paul Warburg was a planner for the U.S. Federal Reserve System which is a collection of private banks, and attended as American representative, the Treaty of Versailles conference, where his brother Max was on the German side of the bargaining table”…by Wiki). One can see why Lenin was ‘permitted’ to pass through Germany!

    Schiff financed the Japanese for their attack on Russia (“He… extended loans to the Empire of Japan in the amount of $200 million, through Kuhn, Loeb & Co… Schiff saw this loan as a means of answering, on behalf of the Jewish people, the anti-Semitic actions of the Russian Empire, specifically the then-recent Kishinev pogrom”), the 1905 Revolution and the 1917 Revolution. “In addition to his famous loan to Japan, Schiff financed loans to many other nations, including those that would come to comprise the Central Powers… Schiff made sure none of the funds from his loans ever went to the Russian Empire, which he felt oppressed Jewish people. When the Russian Empire fell in 1917, Schiff believed that the oppression of Jews would end. He formally repealed the impediments within his firm against lending to Russia”. It’s true that Communist Russia quickly opened the door for foreign investment (NEP) and the looting of Russia.
    When Stalin tried to reduce USSR’s dependence on foreign investments, he became instantly the monster. It is remarkable that America stood behind Trotsky in the case of the so-called “Show Trials” (The Dewey Commission).
    Particularly interesting is that (per Wikipedia);
    “Some ten years later, the Dewey Commission was cited in great detail, when in an open letter to the British press dated 25 February 1946, written by George Orwell and signed by Arthur Koestler, C. E. M. Joad, Frank Horrabin, George Padmore, Julian Symons, H. G. Wells, F. A. Ridley, C. A. Smith and John Baird, among others, it was suggested that the Nuremberg Trials then underway were an invaluable opportunity for establishing “historical truth and bearing upon the political integrity” of figures of international standing. Specifically, they called for Rudolf Hess to be interrogated about his alleged meeting with Trotsky and that the Gestapo records then in the hands of Allied experts be examined for any proof of any “liaison between the Nazi Party or State and Trotsky or the other old Bolshevik leaders indicted at the Moscow trials…”

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    Huh? What does all that have to do with my post?
    , @5371
    [One can see why Lenin was ‘permitted’ to pass through Germany!]

    You think it was all because of the Warburgs? Or maybe because Germany was fighting for her life and needed to bet on any long shot of weakening one of her enemies?
  57. @Oscar Peterson
    Sounds a lot like Ayn Rand.

    “Sounds a lot like Ayn Rand.”

    I assume you are referring to the aunt, who was a Communist in Hollywood. As I indicated in my message, the first I learned about her aunt was from reading the memoir a few years ago.

    With respect to the memoir, I had the uneasy feeling when I read it that it was not altogether truthful. I am mentioned briefly in the memoir, and the few pages were very flattering, so I have nothing to complain about. But some of the details are wrong, which led me to speculate that, if she got our story wrong whether accidentally or deliberately, the details of the numerous other stories in her book could also be untrustworthy. I posted in detail about my friend’s memoir on Rod Dreher’s blog dealing with Lena Dunham’s “memoir” about a year and a half ago. See http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/liar-lena-dunham/comment-page-2/#comment-7047604

    My friend’s memoir ostensibly was written by her, not a “as told to” book. It is very well written and very funny, and, as far as I know, it is the first book written by her. And, while her talents lie in areas other than writing, her memoir refers to her close friendship over the years with a man noted for his writing ability, and I suspect that he played a major role in reviewing and editing my friend’s “memoir.” (Within the past few years, my older first cousin who is in her late 80′s and who graduated from Radcliffe in the late 40′s wrote a book based on her late mother’s experience growing up in rural Greece in the early part of the 20th century before coming to America. I was impressed with my cousin’s effort and actually learned a lot about my family, but I could tell she had little experience writing books since the book did not flow easily and could have used some editing by a professional writer. My friend’s memoir, on the other hand, has a very professional touch to it, is tightly written and is very entertaining.)

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  58. @Seraphim
    It became tedious to evoke the murky relations of Bolshevism with the Jewish bank cartel in the financing of Lenin, Trotsky &Co by Jacob Schiff ("a banker who grew up in House of Rothschild Frankfurt, monopolized American rail system, funded the Rockefellers through First City Bank, ADL and the NAACP. Schiff's granddaughter married Al Gore's Son"... From his base on Wall Street, he was the foremost Jewish leader from 1880 to 1920 in what later became known as the "Schiff era", grappling with all major Jewish issues and problems of the day, including the plight of Russian Jews under the Tsar, American and international anti-semitism, care of needy Jewish immigrants, and the rise of Zionism" - per Wikipedia), and Warburg ("Paul Warburg was a planner for the U.S. Federal Reserve System which is a collection of private banks, and attended as American representative, the Treaty of Versailles conference, where his brother Max was on the German side of the bargaining table"...by Wiki). One can see why Lenin was 'permitted' to pass through Germany!

    Schiff financed the Japanese for their attack on Russia ("He... extended loans to the Empire of Japan in the amount of $200 million, through Kuhn, Loeb & Co... Schiff saw this loan as a means of answering, on behalf of the Jewish people, the anti-Semitic actions of the Russian Empire, specifically the then-recent Kishinev pogrom"), the 1905 Revolution and the 1917 Revolution. "In addition to his famous loan to Japan, Schiff financed loans to many other nations, including those that would come to comprise the Central Powers... Schiff made sure none of the funds from his loans ever went to the Russian Empire, which he felt oppressed Jewish people. When the Russian Empire fell in 1917, Schiff believed that the oppression of Jews would end. He formally repealed the impediments within his firm against lending to Russia". It's true that Communist Russia quickly opened the door for foreign investment (NEP) and the looting of Russia.
    When Stalin tried to reduce USSR's dependence on foreign investments, he became instantly the monster. It is remarkable that America stood behind Trotsky in the case of the so-called "Show Trials" (The Dewey Commission).
    Particularly interesting is that (per Wikipedia);
    "Some ten years later, the Dewey Commission was cited in great detail, when in an open letter to the British press dated 25 February 1946, written by George Orwell and signed by Arthur Koestler, C. E. M. Joad, Frank Horrabin, George Padmore, Julian Symons, H. G. Wells, F. A. Ridley, C. A. Smith and John Baird, among others, it was suggested that the Nuremberg Trials then underway were an invaluable opportunity for establishing "historical truth and bearing upon the political integrity" of figures of international standing. Specifically, they called for Rudolf Hess to be interrogated about his alleged meeting with Trotsky and that the Gestapo records then in the hands of Allied experts be examined for any proof of any "liaison between the Nazi Party or State and Trotsky or the other old Bolshevik leaders indicted at the Moscow trials..."

    Huh? What does all that have to do with my post?

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  59. @tbraton
    Huh? What does all that have to do with my post?

    Can’t you figure out?

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    Don't want to waste my time figuring out the connection between your post, which looks like it should have been a stand alone post, and mine, since it doesn't exactly respond to any point I made. Since I now know your tendency, I won't waste my time responding next time.
  60. […] “The Untouchable Mr. Browder?” by Israel Shamir: […]

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  61. @anony-mouse
    1/ Of course, as you point out once he died there was no question of having a trial-which backs my position-no sane justice system would put a dead person on trial-and none have for centuries until Magnitsky.

    2/ I'm pleased though with 2 things:

    a/ that you think that 'anony-rat' is an argument.

    b/ that you (along with many others here) are backing Shamir in justifying in some way a post-mortem trial.

    In the distant future when people look back on this trial they're going to react like we do today to the idea of trying horses for the crimes of their owners. Why not?

    Can't be sure what they'll make of the defenders of such a trial, but I can guess.

    [no sane justice system would put a dead person on trial]

    Because, I presume, no dead person can in any way be made to answer for his actions. So why, slow-witted rodent, was the English justice system going to have a trial when the possibility of making the protagonist answer for his actions in any way had been excluded?

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  62. @Seraphim
    It became tedious to evoke the murky relations of Bolshevism with the Jewish bank cartel in the financing of Lenin, Trotsky &Co by Jacob Schiff ("a banker who grew up in House of Rothschild Frankfurt, monopolized American rail system, funded the Rockefellers through First City Bank, ADL and the NAACP. Schiff's granddaughter married Al Gore's Son"... From his base on Wall Street, he was the foremost Jewish leader from 1880 to 1920 in what later became known as the "Schiff era", grappling with all major Jewish issues and problems of the day, including the plight of Russian Jews under the Tsar, American and international anti-semitism, care of needy Jewish immigrants, and the rise of Zionism" - per Wikipedia), and Warburg ("Paul Warburg was a planner for the U.S. Federal Reserve System which is a collection of private banks, and attended as American representative, the Treaty of Versailles conference, where his brother Max was on the German side of the bargaining table"...by Wiki). One can see why Lenin was 'permitted' to pass through Germany!

    Schiff financed the Japanese for their attack on Russia ("He... extended loans to the Empire of Japan in the amount of $200 million, through Kuhn, Loeb & Co... Schiff saw this loan as a means of answering, on behalf of the Jewish people, the anti-Semitic actions of the Russian Empire, specifically the then-recent Kishinev pogrom"), the 1905 Revolution and the 1917 Revolution. "In addition to his famous loan to Japan, Schiff financed loans to many other nations, including those that would come to comprise the Central Powers... Schiff made sure none of the funds from his loans ever went to the Russian Empire, which he felt oppressed Jewish people. When the Russian Empire fell in 1917, Schiff believed that the oppression of Jews would end. He formally repealed the impediments within his firm against lending to Russia". It's true that Communist Russia quickly opened the door for foreign investment (NEP) and the looting of Russia.
    When Stalin tried to reduce USSR's dependence on foreign investments, he became instantly the monster. It is remarkable that America stood behind Trotsky in the case of the so-called "Show Trials" (The Dewey Commission).
    Particularly interesting is that (per Wikipedia);
    "Some ten years later, the Dewey Commission was cited in great detail, when in an open letter to the British press dated 25 February 1946, written by George Orwell and signed by Arthur Koestler, C. E. M. Joad, Frank Horrabin, George Padmore, Julian Symons, H. G. Wells, F. A. Ridley, C. A. Smith and John Baird, among others, it was suggested that the Nuremberg Trials then underway were an invaluable opportunity for establishing "historical truth and bearing upon the political integrity" of figures of international standing. Specifically, they called for Rudolf Hess to be interrogated about his alleged meeting with Trotsky and that the Gestapo records then in the hands of Allied experts be examined for any proof of any "liaison between the Nazi Party or State and Trotsky or the other old Bolshevik leaders indicted at the Moscow trials..."

    [One can see why Lenin was ‘permitted’ to pass through Germany!]

    You think it was all because of the Warburgs? Or maybe because Germany was fighting for her life and needed to bet on any long shot of weakening one of her enemies?

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    "Or maybe because Germany was fighting for her life and needed to bet on any long shot of weakening one of her enemies?"

    I am shocked that you would think such a thing.
  63. @Seraphim
    Can't you figure out?

    Don’t want to waste my time figuring out the connection between your post, which looks like it should have been a stand alone post, and mine, since it doesn’t exactly respond to any point I made. Since I now know your tendency, I won’t waste my time responding next time.

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    [ figuring out the connection ]
    I am guessing the inextricable link between Jewish finance, Bolshevism and Germany's contemporary, pre and post-war experience? [It was very tangential a reply to your post of course]
  64. @tbraton
    Don't want to waste my time figuring out the connection between your post, which looks like it should have been a stand alone post, and mine, since it doesn't exactly respond to any point I made. Since I now know your tendency, I won't waste my time responding next time.

    [ figuring out the connection ]
    I am guessing the inextricable link between Jewish finance, Bolshevism and Germany’s contemporary, pre and post-war experience? [It was very tangential a reply to your post of course]

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    Thanks, Sam. I figured it was something along those lines, but the response was so "tangential" to my message that I thought I would let it pass without comment. I try to make my responses to a specific message as responsive to a point contained in that message as possible. If I have an entirely separate point to make, I will post a separate message in order to avoid confusion.

    BTW, while I pointed out the three generation process from Communist to Capitalist in the case of Browder and the two generation process in the case of Armand Hammer, I forgot to mention the one generation process in the case of the Russian oligarchs, both Jewish and non-Jewish. As far as I know, every oligarch in Russia started out as a Communist with very good connections in the Communist Party.
  65. @Quartermaster
    More conspiracy theories posited as fact.

    Alas, Putinist Russia is dangerous to those who would criticize Putin's regime, or Putin himself. Putin is known for using accusations of tax evasion as an excuse for seizing certain businesses. If he has to, he has no compunction about jailing the proprietors, especially if they become politically active in opposition to Putin and his greater Russian schemes. Just ask Khodorkovsky.

    Is this what your former-Soviet relatives have been telling you? Still believing in anti-semitism in Russia? Perhaps you need to inform yourself about recent executive order (anti-Constitutional) prohibiting a peaceful worldwide protest known as BDS: “NY Gov. Cuomo signs “unconstitutional, McCarthyite” pro-Israel exec. order punishing BDS boycott movement”http://www.salon.com/2016/06/05/ny_gov_cuomo_signing_unconstitutional_mccarthyite_pro_israel_exec_order_punishing_bds_boycott_movement/

    You see, here are businesses of a whole state of New York, prepped for punishment because of their critique of a (special) foreign government.

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  66. @anony-mouse
    1/ '... The Untouchable Mr. Browder?...'

    No problem. Just wait till he dies and then put him on trial. Worked for Magnitsky didn't it? So why the fuss?

    2/ As to wikipedia edits-here's a wikipedia article with obviously very few edits you can work on:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posthumous_trial

    Only one (Magnitsky) posthumous trial in the last few centuries? That can't be right, can it?

    3/ Sorry folks but Putin bungled. You can't condemn Browder without condemning Magnitsky and very few (sane) people will condemn the 'defendant' in a post-mortem trial.

    Giving him not one but two lawyers in his trial (one who wore a t-shirt during the proceedings). Nice touch.

    4/Should in the future Shamir question the justice system of any other country, remember, he thinks post-mortem trials are just fine. In fact, he endorsed the verdict in one.

    5/ In the distant past when a person committed a capital crime while riding a horse, it was not impossible to put the horse on trial as well. Ha, ha, ha, boy is that ridiculous, putting a horse on trial. Almost as ridiculous as, as, as, well, putting a corpse on trial.

    6/ If you want to link Jews with a clear victim of injustice (Magnitsky) go ahead.

    “Sorry folks but Putin bungled.” – What has Putin to do with the holy Browder?

    “If you want to link Jews with a clear victim of injustice…”
    Enjoy:
    “Known Pedophile is Instrumental in Promoting Holocaust Hoaxer and Plagiarizer Denis Avey’s New Book:” http://carolynyeager.net/book/export/html/96
    “There is credible evidence that this man carried out some of the most serious sex crimes imaginable over three decades against children who were highly vulnerable and the majority of whom were in care.” http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2016/01/remembering-greville-janner-on-holocaust-memorial-day/

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    Do not feed a troll, the first web wisdom says, and the person you replied to is an obvious troll.
  67. @Sam Shama
    [ figuring out the connection ]
    I am guessing the inextricable link between Jewish finance, Bolshevism and Germany's contemporary, pre and post-war experience? [It was very tangential a reply to your post of course]

    Thanks, Sam. I figured it was something along those lines, but the response was so “tangential” to my message that I thought I would let it pass without comment. I try to make my responses to a specific message as responsive to a point contained in that message as possible. If I have an entirely separate point to make, I will post a separate message in order to avoid confusion.

    BTW, while I pointed out the three generation process from Communist to Capitalist in the case of Browder and the two generation process in the case of Armand Hammer, I forgot to mention the one generation process in the case of the Russian oligarchs, both Jewish and non-Jewish. As far as I know, every oligarch in Russia started out as a Communist with very good connections in the Communist Party.

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    [ I forgot to mention the one generation process in the case of the Russian oligarchs, both Jewish and non-Jewish. As far as I know, every oligarch in Russia started out as a Communist with very good connections in the Communist Party.]

    Hahaha, you are quite right. It appears that with passing generations, the cloak of "class struggles" slipped off with greater ease.
    , @Kiza
    Sorry to barge in on your discussion, maybe I am to blame for initiating it in this thread.

    In terms of progression from Communism to Capitalism in so many or no generations, I would offer an opinion (from personal encounters). It is the Populism part of the Communism which attracts demagogues and careerists, who are quick to change color at the first chance. True communists are often ideological extremists who would rather die than change colors. Many a capitalist learns from communists how to be a populist, one example which comes to mind is Lachlan Murdoch, Rupert Murdoch's son, who studied philosophy and was a fan of Marxism in his student days. This could be extended to contemporary populists such as Donald Trump - whatever he says is unreliable, he will change it in a blink of an eye.

    In summary, my point is that Populism is the cheap ideology under whose flag most opportunists fly. Under Communism the only version of Populism allowed was Communism thus so many converts after its demise. This part has nothing to do with Jews.

  68. @tbraton
    Thanks, Sam. I figured it was something along those lines, but the response was so "tangential" to my message that I thought I would let it pass without comment. I try to make my responses to a specific message as responsive to a point contained in that message as possible. If I have an entirely separate point to make, I will post a separate message in order to avoid confusion.

    BTW, while I pointed out the three generation process from Communist to Capitalist in the case of Browder and the two generation process in the case of Armand Hammer, I forgot to mention the one generation process in the case of the Russian oligarchs, both Jewish and non-Jewish. As far as I know, every oligarch in Russia started out as a Communist with very good connections in the Communist Party.

    [ I forgot to mention the one generation process in the case of the Russian oligarchs, both Jewish and non-Jewish. As far as I know, every oligarch in Russia started out as a Communist with very good connections in the Communist Party.]

    Hahaha, you are quite right. It appears that with passing generations, the cloak of “class struggles” slipped off with greater ease.

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  69. @5371
    [One can see why Lenin was ‘permitted’ to pass through Germany!]

    You think it was all because of the Warburgs? Or maybe because Germany was fighting for her life and needed to bet on any long shot of weakening one of her enemies?

    “Or maybe because Germany was fighting for her life and needed to bet on any long shot of weakening one of her enemies?”

    I am shocked that you would think such a thing.

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    BTW I wonder how many people, including posters here, are aware that the U.S., under President Wilson, sent a military expedition to Russia after the Communist takeover there in 1917 and kept them there for about a year and a half. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Expeditionary_Force_Siberia When I was in college in the early 60's, I bought a paperback of George Kennan's "Russia and the West, Under Lenin and Stalin" (hardcover ed. 1961), the first book of Kennan that I read, and was startled to learn of our military invasion of Russia at the end of WWI and after, something I didn't remember being taught in high school American history a few years earlier. That was about 50 years ago. This past year I got around to reading A. Scott Berg's much acclaimed biography, "Wilson." I didn't remember reading anything in that biography re Wilson's commitment of military forces to Russia. I have just reviewed the index and found one obscure reference to "military intervention in Russia" (p. 590 of hardcover ed.) and George Kennan. More important, I reviewed the Bibliography and found no reference to George Kennan's "Russia and the West, Under Lenin and Stalin." I don't know what to make of the gross omission by a highly-regarded biographer, but it is clear that an effort has been made to downplay this aspect of Wilson's policy, for reasons that escape me.
  70. @imbroglio
    Yes, it's Abe and Izzy who run the shoe store on Main Street, pay their bills and their taxes and struggle to make ends meet and are true to their wives and help their kids with their homework, who'll pay the price.

    Yeah, yeah, the “eternal victim” thing.

    Jews have had 100 years to stand up for the Palestinians, 100 years to admit they destroyed Russia, took out Germany….. 15 years to stand for 9/11 Truth…. the theft of the Fed, the USS Liberty, Pollard, Lavon Affair…… Meyer Lansky, Bugsy Siegel, Morgenthau, the entire Rosenfeld Administration….. it just goes on and on and on.

    How long should Abe and Lizzy have to “come clean”?

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  71. @tbraton
    "Or maybe because Germany was fighting for her life and needed to bet on any long shot of weakening one of her enemies?"

    I am shocked that you would think such a thing.

    BTW I wonder how many people, including posters here, are aware that the U.S., under President Wilson, sent a military expedition to Russia after the Communist takeover there in 1917 and kept them there for about a year and a half. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Expeditionary_Force_Siberia When I was in college in the early 60′s, I bought a paperback of George Kennan’s “Russia and the West, Under Lenin and Stalin” (hardcover ed. 1961), the first book of Kennan that I read, and was startled to learn of our military invasion of Russia at the end of WWI and after, something I didn’t remember being taught in high school American history a few years earlier. That was about 50 years ago. This past year I got around to reading A. Scott Berg’s much acclaimed biography, “Wilson.” I didn’t remember reading anything in that biography re Wilson’s commitment of military forces to Russia. I have just reviewed the index and found one obscure reference to “military intervention in Russia” (p. 590 of hardcover ed.) and George Kennan. More important, I reviewed the Bibliography and found no reference to George Kennan’s “Russia and the West, Under Lenin and Stalin.” I don’t know what to make of the gross omission by a highly-regarded biographer, but it is clear that an effort has been made to downplay this aspect of Wilson’s policy, for reasons that escape me.

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    Maybe because I was educated in a different country I was very well aware of this item of information. It was not only the US, then most of the Western countries from both sides of WW1, including Britain, France, Italy, then also Czechoslovakia (Austria-Hungary), Japan, Germany and so on, which sent troops to Russia on the side of Belaya Gvardiya fighting the Lenin's Bolsheviks, even whilst WW1 was still ongoing. They fought with Belaya Gvardiya in Siberia, Ukraine and Crimea (part of Russia, not part of Ukraine until 1953 when given to Ukraine by the Communist leader Nikita Khrushchev).

    This is possibly the best reference about this second, less well known, part of WW1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_movement

    The US contingent was supposed to support the Siberain Army https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberian_Army but shipped back without fighting.

    , @Sam Shama
    Fascinating, thank you. Reading more, I find that Wilson was motivated to safeguard almost a billion dollars in armaments and equipment [including railway cars] given to Russia by the U.S in the hopes of Russia prevailing over the Central Powers and thereafter adopting the capitalist model. Alas the men and hardware [including frozen machine guns] did not hit the right wavelength with the Siberian winter.
    , @5371
    As I often point out, the real purpose of that expedition was to prevent the Japanese from using the Russian civil war as an opportunity for large-scale expansion.
  72. @tbraton
    Thanks, Sam. I figured it was something along those lines, but the response was so "tangential" to my message that I thought I would let it pass without comment. I try to make my responses to a specific message as responsive to a point contained in that message as possible. If I have an entirely separate point to make, I will post a separate message in order to avoid confusion.

    BTW, while I pointed out the three generation process from Communist to Capitalist in the case of Browder and the two generation process in the case of Armand Hammer, I forgot to mention the one generation process in the case of the Russian oligarchs, both Jewish and non-Jewish. As far as I know, every oligarch in Russia started out as a Communist with very good connections in the Communist Party.

    Sorry to barge in on your discussion, maybe I am to blame for initiating it in this thread.

    In terms of progression from Communism to Capitalism in so many or no generations, I would offer an opinion (from personal encounters). It is the Populism part of the Communism which attracts demagogues and careerists, who are quick to change color at the first chance. True communists are often ideological extremists who would rather die than change colors. Many a capitalist learns from communists how to be a populist, one example which comes to mind is Lachlan Murdoch, Rupert Murdoch’s son, who studied philosophy and was a fan of Marxism in his student days. This could be extended to contemporary populists such as Donald Trump – whatever he says is unreliable, he will change it in a blink of an eye.

    In summary, my point is that Populism is the cheap ideology under whose flag most opportunists fly. Under Communism the only version of Populism allowed was Communism thus so many converts after its demise. This part has nothing to do with Jews.

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  73. @tbraton
    BTW I wonder how many people, including posters here, are aware that the U.S., under President Wilson, sent a military expedition to Russia after the Communist takeover there in 1917 and kept them there for about a year and a half. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Expeditionary_Force_Siberia When I was in college in the early 60's, I bought a paperback of George Kennan's "Russia and the West, Under Lenin and Stalin" (hardcover ed. 1961), the first book of Kennan that I read, and was startled to learn of our military invasion of Russia at the end of WWI and after, something I didn't remember being taught in high school American history a few years earlier. That was about 50 years ago. This past year I got around to reading A. Scott Berg's much acclaimed biography, "Wilson." I didn't remember reading anything in that biography re Wilson's commitment of military forces to Russia. I have just reviewed the index and found one obscure reference to "military intervention in Russia" (p. 590 of hardcover ed.) and George Kennan. More important, I reviewed the Bibliography and found no reference to George Kennan's "Russia and the West, Under Lenin and Stalin." I don't know what to make of the gross omission by a highly-regarded biographer, but it is clear that an effort has been made to downplay this aspect of Wilson's policy, for reasons that escape me.

    Maybe because I was educated in a different country I was very well aware of this item of information. It was not only the US, then most of the Western countries from both sides of WW1, including Britain, France, Italy, then also Czechoslovakia (Austria-Hungary), Japan, Germany and so on, which sent troops to Russia on the side of Belaya Gvardiya fighting the Lenin’s Bolsheviks, even whilst WW1 was still ongoing. They fought with Belaya Gvardiya in Siberia, Ukraine and Crimea (part of Russia, not part of Ukraine until 1953 when given to Ukraine by the Communist leader Nikita Khrushchev).

    This is possibly the best reference about this second, less well known, part of WW1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_movement

    The US contingent was supposed to support the Siberain Army https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberian_Army but shipped back without fighting.

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    There is no question the involvement of U.S. troops in Russia following the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917 is downplayed in the U.S. As I noted, the issue wasn't touched on in my high school history class, and I was surprised to learn of our military involvement in Russia's civil war only when I went to college and bought the small paperback of Kennan's "Russia and the West Under Lenin and Stalin." In fact, I have a one-volume history of the U.S. written by one of the U.S.'s leading historians, Samuel Eliot Morison, who was the highly acclaimed biographer of Christopher Columbus and John Paul Jones and a long-time professor of history at Harvard. He was also the author of the highly acclaimed "History of the United States Naval Operations in World War II," a 15-volume effort. In his "The Oxford History of the American People" (1965, 1122 pages, ending with the 1963 assassination of JFK), he states briefly at p. 878 that "President Wilson went along [with efforts of France and Britain to overthrow the Bolsheviks] to the extent of sending a small American force to Archangel, ostensibly to prevent a cache of military supplies reaching Germany, and participating in a Japanese-directed invasion of Siberia, to see that Japan did not go too far." Rather cryptic reference to a somewhat small military involvement that lasted for more than a year and a half, but, in defense of Morison, his history was a one-volume affair (published by the Oxford University Press) and the American involvement in Russia had no effect on the Russian Revolution, other than to sour the relationship between the new Communist government and the U.S., which did not diplomatically recognize the new regime until FDR became President in 1933.

    A. Scott Berg has no such defense. His detailed biography of Wilson runs to 743 pages, and he makes no reference at all to the U.S. military contingent that was sent to Russia in 1918 by Wilson and remained there for more than a year and a half. You would think that Berg could have added a few brief sentences alluding to the military expeditionary force and a brief summary of its impact, but not a word. This from an author who discusses the infamous "Palmer raids" at the end of the Wilson Administration and the bombs which set off those raids. I am just puzzled about the omission and fail to see what agenda is being served, other than it highlights the utter hypocrisy of Wilson with his vaunted "Fourteen Points," which impliedly called for respect of international borders. Wilson was also the hypocrite who won reelection in a close race in 1916 running on a campaign that "he kept us out of war" and the declared war against Germany a month after he was reinaugurated in March 1917.
  74. @tbraton
    BTW I wonder how many people, including posters here, are aware that the U.S., under President Wilson, sent a military expedition to Russia after the Communist takeover there in 1917 and kept them there for about a year and a half. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Expeditionary_Force_Siberia When I was in college in the early 60's, I bought a paperback of George Kennan's "Russia and the West, Under Lenin and Stalin" (hardcover ed. 1961), the first book of Kennan that I read, and was startled to learn of our military invasion of Russia at the end of WWI and after, something I didn't remember being taught in high school American history a few years earlier. That was about 50 years ago. This past year I got around to reading A. Scott Berg's much acclaimed biography, "Wilson." I didn't remember reading anything in that biography re Wilson's commitment of military forces to Russia. I have just reviewed the index and found one obscure reference to "military intervention in Russia" (p. 590 of hardcover ed.) and George Kennan. More important, I reviewed the Bibliography and found no reference to George Kennan's "Russia and the West, Under Lenin and Stalin." I don't know what to make of the gross omission by a highly-regarded biographer, but it is clear that an effort has been made to downplay this aspect of Wilson's policy, for reasons that escape me.

    Fascinating, thank you. Reading more, I find that Wilson was motivated to safeguard almost a billion dollars in armaments and equipment [including railway cars] given to Russia by the U.S in the hopes of Russia prevailing over the Central Powers and thereafter adopting the capitalist model. Alas the men and hardware [including frozen machine guns] did not hit the right wavelength with the Siberian winter.

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  75. @tbraton
    When I first became aware of Mr. Browder a number of years ago, I was curious about his name, since I was aware of Earl Browder, the former head of the American Communist Party when I was growing up. After I subsequently learned of the familial connection, I was highly amused to discover the leap from Communist to capitalist in three generations. But then I recalled that Dr. Armand Hammer, eventually the controlling shareholder of Occidental Petroleum, had a father who was also a doctor, an emigrant from Odessa, and a founder of the Communist Party U.S.A. That was a mere two generations to make the leap from Communist to capitalist.

    A few years ago I happened to read an amusing memoir of the girl who was my date to my high school prom but who went on to achieve a modest fame and acquaintance with many prominent Americans and foreigners. (I am being intentionally vague.) When I was dating her in high school and college, I operated under the false assumption that her mother (whom I met) was Jewish and her natural father (whom I never met); I met her stepfather, who was Jewish) was Catholic, which I thought was kind of cool, since I was totally nonreligious. You can imagine my disappointment to learn nearly a half century later that both of her natural parents were Jewish. Elsewhere in her memoir, my friend referred to her mother's sister, who was a member of the Communist Party and got caught up in the Hollywood blacklist and lost her job. (That was the first I heard of it, btw.) Things turned out well for her since she hooked up with and married a wealthy Jewish doctor, who left her a sizable fortune when he died. She eventually moved to Israel where she found nirvana, marrying a much younger man and enjoying late in life "fantastic sex." So, it appears that what motivates many young Communists is the dream of becoming fantastically wealthy and enjoying life as a plutocrat, not the BS of improving life for the downtrodden. If I weren't such a natural skeptic, I would have been very disillusioned, but not as much as I was to discover late in life that her father was Jewish and not Catholic. Apologies to all those women I dated in my 20's and 30's whom I regaled with the story of my half-Jewish, half-Catholic prom date.

    It occurred to me to ask you if you thought her ideological metamorphosis had had in part, resulted from the entry of Alan Greenspan in their midst ;-) ?

    Great story to captivate your company no doubt!

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    As I made clear in my message, Sam, the first I heard of her black-listed aunt was from reading my friend's memoir a few years ago. The aunt never came up in our conversations, and I knew her for roughly 10 years or more. In fact, we never discussed her natural father, whom she discusses a lot in the memoir. I have reason to doubt the veracity of her story for reasons stated here and in my earlier message on Dreher's blog and for other unstated reasons. (It was my first occasion to be mentioned in someone's memoir, and it became a consuming moment, because my still good memory remembered things very differently from what was represented in the one or two pages which refer to me quite favorably. My friend was not only attractive, but she was built like a young Elizabeth Taylor and was highly intelligent and a very nice girl. That leads me to suspect that the misrepresentations of which I am aware were deliberate and not accidents of a faulty memory and lead me to suspect that other parts of the memoir may be fabricated as well.) In reading about her Communist aunt, I was struck by the utter lack of irony expressed by my old friend. That applies as well to an overarching theme of the book which my friend violates without exhibiting any sense of self-awareness. I guess I gave her more credit than she deserved. She is also relatively vague about dates, which, I suspect, is done deliberately to hide inconsistencies in her story, many of which I only became aware of upon reading her memoir. Suddenly, things which had puzzled me at the time made sense, as I learned more details of her life.
  76. @Quartermaster
    More conspiracy theories posited as fact.

    Alas, Putinist Russia is dangerous to those who would criticize Putin's regime, or Putin himself. Putin is known for using accusations of tax evasion as an excuse for seizing certain businesses. If he has to, he has no compunction about jailing the proprietors, especially if they become politically active in opposition to Putin and his greater Russian schemes. Just ask Khodorkovsky.

    Just ask Khodorkovsky.

    Why don’t you ask the ECHR while you’re at it?

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  77. @Sam Shama
    It occurred to me to ask you if you thought her ideological metamorphosis had had in part, resulted from the entry of Alan Greenspan in their midst ;-) ?

    Great story to captivate your company no doubt!

    As I made clear in my message, Sam, the first I heard of her black-listed aunt was from reading my friend’s memoir a few years ago. The aunt never came up in our conversations, and I knew her for roughly 10 years or more. In fact, we never discussed her natural father, whom she discusses a lot in the memoir. I have reason to doubt the veracity of her story for reasons stated here and in my earlier message on Dreher’s blog and for other unstated reasons. (It was my first occasion to be mentioned in someone’s memoir, and it became a consuming moment, because my still good memory remembered things very differently from what was represented in the one or two pages which refer to me quite favorably. My friend was not only attractive, but she was built like a young Elizabeth Taylor and was highly intelligent and a very nice girl. That leads me to suspect that the misrepresentations of which I am aware were deliberate and not accidents of a faulty memory and lead me to suspect that other parts of the memoir may be fabricated as well.) In reading about her Communist aunt, I was struck by the utter lack of irony expressed by my old friend. That applies as well to an overarching theme of the book which my friend violates without exhibiting any sense of self-awareness. I guess I gave her more credit than she deserved. She is also relatively vague about dates, which, I suspect, is done deliberately to hide inconsistencies in her story, many of which I only became aware of upon reading her memoir. Suddenly, things which had puzzled me at the time made sense, as I learned more details of her life.

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  78. @tbraton
    BTW I wonder how many people, including posters here, are aware that the U.S., under President Wilson, sent a military expedition to Russia after the Communist takeover there in 1917 and kept them there for about a year and a half. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Expeditionary_Force_Siberia When I was in college in the early 60's, I bought a paperback of George Kennan's "Russia and the West, Under Lenin and Stalin" (hardcover ed. 1961), the first book of Kennan that I read, and was startled to learn of our military invasion of Russia at the end of WWI and after, something I didn't remember being taught in high school American history a few years earlier. That was about 50 years ago. This past year I got around to reading A. Scott Berg's much acclaimed biography, "Wilson." I didn't remember reading anything in that biography re Wilson's commitment of military forces to Russia. I have just reviewed the index and found one obscure reference to "military intervention in Russia" (p. 590 of hardcover ed.) and George Kennan. More important, I reviewed the Bibliography and found no reference to George Kennan's "Russia and the West, Under Lenin and Stalin." I don't know what to make of the gross omission by a highly-regarded biographer, but it is clear that an effort has been made to downplay this aspect of Wilson's policy, for reasons that escape me.

    As I often point out, the real purpose of that expedition was to prevent the Japanese from using the Russian civil war as an opportunity for large-scale expansion.

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  79. Many of us are aware of the ‘Allied Intervention in the Russian civil war’ which occured in the aftermath of the Peace of Brest-Litovsk while the Entante was still at war with Germany. The chaos which ensued as a result of the misguided policies of the HLH (Hindenburg, Ludendorff, Hoffman), especially the ‘Napoleonic complex’ of Ludendorff compounded by the greedy desires of many petty German ‘Fuersten’ for crowns in the East, determined the Allies to intervene, motivated by the following considerations:
    - prevent the German or Bolshevik capture of Allied material stockpiles in Arkhangelsk
    - mount an attack helping the Czechoslovak Legions stranded on the Trans-Siberian Railroad
    – resurrect the Eastern Front by defeating the Bolshevik army with help from the Czechoslovak Legions and an expanded anti-Bolshevik force of local citizens and stop the spread of communism and the Bolshevik cause in Russia.

    Now, this is news only for graduates of American schools where history is no more taught. The Wikipedia entry (‘Allied intervention in the Russian Civil War’) would have been sufficient (for beginners) to set the record straight:

    “Severely short of troops to spare, the British and French requested that President Wilson provide American soldiers for the campaign. In July 1918, against the advice of the United States Department of War, Wilson agreed to the limited participation of 5,000 United States Army troops in the campaign. This force, which became known as the “American North Russia Expeditionary Force” (a.k.a. the Polar Bear Expedition) were sent to Arkhangelsk while another 8,000 soldiers, organised as the American Expeditionary Force Siberia, were shipped to Vladivostok from the Philippines and from Camp Fremont in California. That same month, the Canadian government agreed to the British government’s request to command and provide most of the soldiers for a combined British Empire force, which also included Australian and Indian troops. Some of this force was the Canadian Siberian Expeditionary Force; another part was the North Russia Intervention. A Royal Navy squadron was sent to the Baltic under Rear-Admiral Edwyn Alexander-Sinclair. This force consisted of modern C-class cruisers and V- and W-class destroyers. In December 1918, Sinclair sailed into Estonian and Latvian ports, sending in troops and supplies, and promising to attack the Bolsheviks “as far as my guns can reach”. In January 1919, he was succeeded in command by Rear-Admiral Walter Cowan.
    The Japanese, concerned about their northern border, sent the largest military force, numbering about 70,000. They desired the establishment of a buffer state in Siberia, and the Imperial Japanese Army General Staff viewed the situation in Russia as an opportunity for settling Japan’s “northern problem”. The Japanese government was also intensely hostile to communism.
    The Italians created the special “Corpo di Spedizione” with Alpini troops sent from Italy and ex-POWs of Italian ethnicity from the former Austro-Hungarian army who were recruited to the Italian Legione Redenta. They were initially based in the Italian Concession in Tientsin and numbered about 2,500.
    Romania, Greece, Poland, China, and Serbia also sent contingents in support of the intervention.”
    All these troops have been involved, in a way or another, in the Russian Civil War, but by 1920 all have been withdrawn. Only the Japanese stayed in the Maritime Provinces of the Russian Far East until 1922 and in northern Sakhalin until 1925.

    There is obviously no space here to talk about the ‘Treaty of Rapallo’ between Russia and Germany of 1922 and of the ‘Genoa Conference’ held in Genoa in 1922, where “the representatives of 34 countries gathered to discuss global economic problems following World War I. The purpose was to formulate strategies to rebuild central and eastern Europe, particularly Russia, after the war, and also to negotiate a relationship between European capitalist economies, and the new Russian Bolshevik regime”. These were signals for the introduction of NEP (New Economic Policy) and the policy of ‘concessions’ which was, in Lenin’s terms ” a strategic retreat from socialism”.
    Anyhow, I think that a BA is a minimum requirement in order to gain a modicum of understanding of these problems. For sure Wikipedia is not sufficient.

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    My high school history, at the level of Wikipedia, is nowhere near your knowledge of the subject. Thanks for this learning experience.
  80. If someone would have the resolve and patience to delve into the genealogies of the Bolsheviks/Neo-Con/Bankers/American communists/NY ‘intellectuals’/Holywood moguls/Kosher Nostra/paranoid Russophobe journalists/Analysts of ‘Russian problems’, he will find a common thread linking them to what was called “The Pale of Settlement (Russian: Черта́ осе́длости, chertá osédlosti, Yiddish: דער תּחום-המושבֿ‎, der tkhum-ha-moyshəv, Hebrew: תְּחוּם הַמּוֹשָב‎‎, tcḥùm ha-mosháv) the western region of Imperial Russia, in which permanent residency by Jews was allowed and beyond which Jewish permanent residency was generally prohibited. It extended from the eastern pale, or demarcation line, to the western Russian border with the Kingdom of Prussia (later the German Empire) and with Austria-Hungary.”
    One would stop then wonder why all display that pathological hatred of Russia and Russians and the desire to harm her no matter what, as retribution for the imagined ‘persecutions’ they supposedly endured.

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  81. @Seraphim
    Many of us are aware of the 'Allied Intervention in the Russian civil war' which occured in the aftermath of the Peace of Brest-Litovsk while the Entante was still at war with Germany. The chaos which ensued as a result of the misguided policies of the HLH (Hindenburg, Ludendorff, Hoffman), especially the 'Napoleonic complex' of Ludendorff compounded by the greedy desires of many petty German 'Fuersten' for crowns in the East, determined the Allies to intervene, motivated by the following considerations:
    - prevent the German or Bolshevik capture of Allied material stockpiles in Arkhangelsk
    - mount an attack helping the Czechoslovak Legions stranded on the Trans-Siberian Railroad
    - resurrect the Eastern Front by defeating the Bolshevik army with help from the Czechoslovak Legions and an expanded anti-Bolshevik force of local citizens and stop the spread of communism and the Bolshevik cause in Russia.

    Now, this is news only for graduates of American schools where history is no more taught. The Wikipedia entry ('Allied intervention in the Russian Civil War') would have been sufficient (for beginners) to set the record straight:

    "Severely short of troops to spare, the British and French requested that President Wilson provide American soldiers for the campaign. In July 1918, against the advice of the United States Department of War, Wilson agreed to the limited participation of 5,000 United States Army troops in the campaign. This force, which became known as the "American North Russia Expeditionary Force" (a.k.a. the Polar Bear Expedition) were sent to Arkhangelsk while another 8,000 soldiers, organised as the American Expeditionary Force Siberia, were shipped to Vladivostok from the Philippines and from Camp Fremont in California. That same month, the Canadian government agreed to the British government's request to command and provide most of the soldiers for a combined British Empire force, which also included Australian and Indian troops. Some of this force was the Canadian Siberian Expeditionary Force; another part was the North Russia Intervention. A Royal Navy squadron was sent to the Baltic under Rear-Admiral Edwyn Alexander-Sinclair. This force consisted of modern C-class cruisers and V- and W-class destroyers. In December 1918, Sinclair sailed into Estonian and Latvian ports, sending in troops and supplies, and promising to attack the Bolsheviks "as far as my guns can reach". In January 1919, he was succeeded in command by Rear-Admiral Walter Cowan.
    The Japanese, concerned about their northern border, sent the largest military force, numbering about 70,000. They desired the establishment of a buffer state in Siberia, and the Imperial Japanese Army General Staff viewed the situation in Russia as an opportunity for settling Japan's "northern problem". The Japanese government was also intensely hostile to communism.
    The Italians created the special "Corpo di Spedizione" with Alpini troops sent from Italy and ex-POWs of Italian ethnicity from the former Austro-Hungarian army who were recruited to the Italian Legione Redenta. They were initially based in the Italian Concession in Tientsin and numbered about 2,500.
    Romania, Greece, Poland, China, and Serbia also sent contingents in support of the intervention."
    All these troops have been involved, in a way or another, in the Russian Civil War, but by 1920 all have been withdrawn. Only the Japanese stayed in the Maritime Provinces of the Russian Far East until 1922 and in northern Sakhalin until 1925.

    There is obviously no space here to talk about the 'Treaty of Rapallo' between Russia and Germany of 1922 and of the 'Genoa Conference' held in Genoa in 1922, where "the representatives of 34 countries gathered to discuss global economic problems following World War I. The purpose was to formulate strategies to rebuild central and eastern Europe, particularly Russia, after the war, and also to negotiate a relationship between European capitalist economies, and the new Russian Bolshevik regime". These were signals for the introduction of NEP (New Economic Policy) and the policy of 'concessions' which was, in Lenin's terms " a strategic retreat from socialism".
    Anyhow, I think that a BA is a minimum requirement in order to gain a modicum of understanding of these problems. For sure Wikipedia is not sufficient.

    My high school history, at the level of Wikipedia, is nowhere near your knowledge of the subject. Thanks for this learning experience.

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  82. @annamaria
    "Sorry folks but Putin bungled." - What has Putin to do with the holy Browder?

    "If you want to link Jews with a clear victim of injustice..."
    Enjoy:
    "Known Pedophile is Instrumental in Promoting Holocaust Hoaxer and Plagiarizer Denis Avey's New Book:" http://carolynyeager.net/book/export/html/96
    “There is credible evidence that this man carried out some of the most serious sex crimes imaginable over three decades against children who were highly vulnerable and the majority of whom were in care.” http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2016/01/remembering-greville-janner-on-holocaust-memorial-day/

    Do not feed a troll, the first web wisdom says, and the person you replied to is an obvious troll.

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  83. @Kiza
    Maybe because I was educated in a different country I was very well aware of this item of information. It was not only the US, then most of the Western countries from both sides of WW1, including Britain, France, Italy, then also Czechoslovakia (Austria-Hungary), Japan, Germany and so on, which sent troops to Russia on the side of Belaya Gvardiya fighting the Lenin's Bolsheviks, even whilst WW1 was still ongoing. They fought with Belaya Gvardiya in Siberia, Ukraine and Crimea (part of Russia, not part of Ukraine until 1953 when given to Ukraine by the Communist leader Nikita Khrushchev).

    This is possibly the best reference about this second, less well known, part of WW1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_movement

    The US contingent was supposed to support the Siberain Army https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberian_Army but shipped back without fighting.

    There is no question the involvement of U.S. troops in Russia following the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917 is downplayed in the U.S. As I noted, the issue wasn’t touched on in my high school history class, and I was surprised to learn of our military involvement in Russia’s civil war only when I went to college and bought the small paperback of Kennan’s “Russia and the West Under Lenin and Stalin.” In fact, I have a one-volume history of the U.S. written by one of the U.S.’s leading historians, Samuel Eliot Morison, who was the highly acclaimed biographer of Christopher Columbus and John Paul Jones and a long-time professor of history at Harvard. He was also the author of the highly acclaimed “History of the United States Naval Operations in World War II,” a 15-volume effort. In his “The Oxford History of the American People” (1965, 1122 pages, ending with the 1963 assassination of JFK), he states briefly at p. 878 that “President Wilson went along [with efforts of France and Britain to overthrow the Bolsheviks] to the extent of sending a small American force to Archangel, ostensibly to prevent a cache of military supplies reaching Germany, and participating in a Japanese-directed invasion of Siberia, to see that Japan did not go too far.” Rather cryptic reference to a somewhat small military involvement that lasted for more than a year and a half, but, in defense of Morison, his history was a one-volume affair (published by the Oxford University Press) and the American involvement in Russia had no effect on the Russian Revolution, other than to sour the relationship between the new Communist government and the U.S., which did not diplomatically recognize the new regime until FDR became President in 1933.

    A. Scott Berg has no such defense. His detailed biography of Wilson runs to 743 pages, and he makes no reference at all to the U.S. military contingent that was sent to Russia in 1918 by Wilson and remained there for more than a year and a half. You would think that Berg could have added a few brief sentences alluding to the military expeditionary force and a brief summary of its impact, but not a word. This from an author who discusses the infamous “Palmer raids” at the end of the Wilson Administration and the bombs which set off those raids. I am just puzzled about the omission and fail to see what agenda is being served, other than it highlights the utter hypocrisy of Wilson with his vaunted “Fourteen Points,” which impliedly called for respect of international borders. Wilson was also the hypocrite who won reelection in a close race in 1916 running on a campaign that “he kept us out of war” and the declared war against Germany a month after he was reinaugurated in March 1917.

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  84. @Israel Shamir
    This is exactly what I said: the US has more freedom of speech))

    NOPE – that’s what you said morally.

    Did you ever questioned the SIX MILLION DIED or the 9/11 official story which have turned-out to be fraud?

    Have you met Afro-American Catholic professor Larycia Hawkins who was fired by Wheaton College for saying that “both Christians and Muslims worship the same God”?

    What I meant by your experience was the distortion your 2011 interview you gave to Will Yakowicz.

    https://rehmat1.com/2011/05/19/israel-shamir-lost-in-translation/

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