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The ascent of Donald Trump is more than a change of tenant of the White House on 1600, Pennsylvania Ave. It is a momentous swing from Yin to Yang, from dark feminine to bright masculine paradigm, from Cybele to Christ. Tremendous resistance to the regime change proves its unique importance.

That’s why the American colour revolution, the attempt to prevent the new president’s reign, took a form of a women’s march. Of a certain type of women wearing their genitals-like pink hats. Not of Saints Mary and Catherine, not of our wives and mothers, but of the wild throng of maenads, the Demented Ones who roamed the forests and in their frenzy they tore men to pieces and devoured their flesh. They hate Christ and admire witches, and for them the murder of a babe in its mother’s womb is not a necessity but their heart’s desire. That’s why they didn’t allow pro-life women to join their rites.

If you prefer a more up-to-date comparison, this is a new Pussy Riot. Perhaps you remember there was a Russian group of that name. They were anti-Putin like the American lot is anti-Trump; they blasphemed like their American counterparts; they were guided and supported by Louise “Madonna” Ciccone, who starred in Washington threatening to blow up the White House. The Russian group tried porno acts, without much avail; they tried politics – no success again; until they finally profaned the Moscow Cathedral. Then they were quickly sentenced to two years of gaol, and since then there has peace between men and women in Russia. Sometimes a swift punishment is the best way to chill feverish minds and pussies.

Pussy Riot-2 were called Femen. You can read their story here. They do not exist anymore, as their leader said recently. And now, Pussy Riot–3, in Washington, another obscene attempt to use women and their bodies for political and religious anti-Christian purposes. Would you be surprised to learn that all three movements had been financed by Jewish hedge fund managers? Why do these men try so hard to manipulate women for gain?

Men love women, we are made that way. We love their beautiful bodies and their compassionate souls, their high spirit and their subtle mind. They are our lovers, friends, comrades. In all the history of art, there was perhaps one poet, Palladas of Alexandria, who said he abhorred women and even that could be a case of sour grapes. Pity that in our post-Christian, or even anti-Christian society a very old type of women has been reconstructed, that of the women who broke with Logos and united with the dark heathen spirit. Debased and debasing, they are eager to serve their Dark Lord of Wall Street.

Even more revolting are the men who had sent these poor misled souls to riot in the cities of America, hoping to provoke police or public violence. They know it was difficult for real men to defend themselves against a women’s attack, and they use that to the utmost.

A Russian Jewish writer Dmitry Bykov considered it a standard Jewish stratagem: they send a woman to provoke a man with nasty words and insults; if he responds, they attack him in defending the offended womanhood, he wrote in his amusing Living Souls. The Jewish masterminds of the virago revolt – George Soros and his fellow billionaire Tom Steyer, who pledged $100 million for the regime change, utilised this time-honoured subterfuge.

The viragos were joined by LGBT, the evil Tetragrammaton, modern worshippers of Cybele. Cybele priests and worshippers castrated themselves in front of their goddess. This is the aim of the gender agenda: castration of the male. Now they have been defeated, as they were defeated centuries ago, and they are not taking it lying down.

So it is not a shift from Democrats to Republicans – it is a shift from Cybele to Christ. This esoteric side of the regime change had been clear to the protagonists. That’s why Trump went to church hand in hand with his lady-wife just before the oath, thus ceremonially restoring the normal order of things. That’s why Trump by his first blessed act has removed the LGBT smut page off the White House site, restoring its whiteness.

Media, “a false witness who breathes out lies and sows discord among brothers” (The Proverbs are always the best for quotes!) reported “a million participants” in “Washington and elsewhere”. This was very modest of them. I’d expect a billion demonstrating “elsewhere”, or at least six million, a good and familiar number. There is no way to check the “elsewhere” numbers. Not only beauty, but the numbers are also in the eyes of the beholder; they saw just a few onlookers at the ceremony, but multitudes of the maenads from Seattle to Rhode Island marching to Washington DC to devour Trump as they devoured Orpheus.

This is the end of the Yin era of gender disorder. The era of kind old ladies assuming leadership on behalf of the unseen puppeteers. The era of unisex toilets instead of equality. The era of political correctness instead of correcting policies. The era of men being ashamed of their manhood and of women manipulated by hedge fund managers.

Even the best deeds of the departing regime were marked by gender disorder. Like Obama’s pardon of Bradley Manning. I am really happy that this man will (hopefully) regain his freedom, after years in the Gestapo cellars. Yes, Gestapo: Trump correctly compared the US secret services with those of the Third Reich. Manning had been kept naked and chained and humiliated and tortured. Not many prisoners of the German Gestapo suffered that much. At the end of his wits, he chose to give up his manhood. A tragic gesture. I wonder which of his tormentors gave him that advice.

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He did not become a woman, for a man can’t become a woman. Here I fully agree with Germaine Greer, the old feminist. Only God can make a woman. A man can only turn himself into a castrated transvestite. This fate was prepared for our sons by the domineering Yin. A sad fate for a man who gave us, gave to mankind, raw and precious data on the real election meddling in dozens of countries. Not the fake one by “Russian hackers”, but the real one by the US State Department and secret services in the interest of NWO promoters. Now they have been defeated on their home ground by the American people, and Bradley Manning contributed hugely to that achievement.

But the media purred approvingly of “Chelsea Manning” and of “her” future as of a free “woman.” What a silly choice of words! Well, let him be free and sort out his life.

The departing Yin era has brought feminism ad absurdum. So many recent movies catered to this demand. Their constant bleating of “four legs good, two legs bad” was used as a device to drown out any opposition, wrote George Orwell. In the Yin times, it was “vagina good, penis bad”, but the bleating was equally persistent. All great discoveries were made by women, while men just appropriated them – that was the logic behind the new version of Ghostbusters and of The Hidden Figures. The last film perfected the idea by crediting not just any women, but black ones. God knows there are wonderful black women like Cynthia McKinney, who rebelled against the Jewish lobby in the occupied Capitol, but she was not the one they meant.

The history of arts has been re-written. In real life, women inspired (almost) every artist, but there were very few female artists. In the re-written history, Artemisia Gentileschi, an accomplished if second-rate woman-painter of the 17th century, eclipsed her contemporaries in the number of studies. Vagina good, penis bad.

Homosexuality has been the most glorified gender disorder in Yin era. Some of the male homosexuals were great artists, writers and warriors; however they had a troubled and treacherous personality. The best homosexual writer of the 20th century, Jean Genet, glorified cruelty, betrayal and murder in his wonderful Our Lady of Flowers. Art achievement is not a proof of a reliable good personality, more often, it is other way around.

We aren’t allowed to say it anymore, but a few years ago it was received wisdom that homosexuals are treacherous and unreliable, definitely unsuitable for a public office of trust. This quality has endeared them with the Masters who need untrustworthy people, who would easily betray public trust, to fill important political positions.

A great Italian writer and war journalist Curzio Malaparte in his shocking book on American occupation/liberation of Naples called The Skin (“what a man will do, what deeds of heroism and infamy he can accomplish, to save his skin”) noticed readiness of the homos to happily accept occupation and to please the invading army. For this sharp observation he had been ostracised by much of the modern media, but indeed native homosexuals are good for an occupying army. Israel takes care of Palestinian gays and even gives them a sort of asylum. Gay International (in words of Joseph Massad) has been instrumental in a sort of colonisation of the Arab world. This could provide an additional explanation of why the Masters supported and promoted this unnatural behaviour, as they treat their own countries as occupied territories.

This is not a call for any action against these people beyond pushing them back to their dens. Mankind lives with such disorders and even gets some benefits from their outrages; but never before such a disorder has been “celebrated” as a new norm. There is nothing to celebrate. Go back to your closets, you poor tormented souls, together with BDSM, paedophiles and other pizza consumers, and stay there.

If there is a topic that generated a lot of dislike abroad for the US it was is for pushing the same sex agenda. The US is/was the only superpower, so few countries refused to comply with their violent and vehement push for the deviants’ “rights”, but nobody liked it, not even Americans, judging by the election results. One of the secrets of Putin’s popularity in Russia is his stubborn resistance to the previous American regime demands to popularise sexual deviance. Private life in Russia is free and unhindered, but the deviants who want to celebrate their deviance in a public space in the presence of minors are stopped. In very tolerant France, President Hollande’s insistence on forcing same-sex “marriage” in the face of huge popular opposition allowed him to achieve the lowest rating ever obtained by a ruling French leader. Hopefully President Trump will not force us to witness unnatural acts in public.

It would be good to roll the viragos back, too. They infect their impressionable sisters by their wild misbehaviour, and turn men’s life into hell. Among good and great deeds of Putin I’d list his suppression of Pussy Riot, the previous incarnation of the pink vaginas marching on the White House.

Wherever you witness a battle against Logos, against Christ and against nature, you’d expect to meet some Jews. Indeed Jewish hedge fund managers paid for the pussy riots while Jewish-owned media provided them with free and plentiful publicity. So where do the Jews stand in relation to Trump?

Let’s face it, the Jews do not like Trump (always excepting some individuals for free will can beat ethnic affiliation any time). There are Zionist Jews including Prime Minister Netanyahu who think Trump can be good for the Jews. But then, there were Zionist Jews who thought Hitler would be good for the Jews. They tried, and succeeded in running a profitable business with Nazi Germany between 1933 and 1941. In the face of Jewish American establishment displeasure, they traded for millions of dollars with the Nazi enemy and profited hugely, as Germany experienced difficulties in its foreign trade because of the Jewish boycott. Hitler hoped this trade with the Zionists would improve his relations with the important American Jewish community, but in vain.

So it is an old Jewish stratagem: the main body of Jews fights an enemy, while a secondary hedging movement has a profitable relation with the enemy. Now, the main forces of Jews fight Trump and everything he stands for. The Jews in the Congress and Senate, Jews in the mass media from Hollywood to NY Times are against Trump. But the hedging secondary Zionist branch supports Trump as they hope he will give them a lot.

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Now Israelis plan to annex some parts of the West Bank and they hope to bring the US embassy to Jerusalem. The Zionist Jews are in a rush because they are afraid Trump will understand sooner or later that he gets very little from the Zionists in return. Zionists can’t influence the main Jewish body to any large extent. Google searching for “Trump antisemite” produces half a million hits; much of it is very recent. Let’s just mention an opinion piece by Bernard-Henri Levy in the NY Times explaining that Trump is a swineherd who wants to destroy the Jews through his ostensibly kind acts. In short, extreme Zionists – or Ultra-Orthodox Jews – can’t deliver goods Trump wants. So unless he wants to provide for them just for pleasure of being nice to some Jews, this relationship is not likely to last long, and may end in sorrow.

For the Jews support financial institutions from the Federal Reserve to banks to hedge funds; they profit from open borders, they are for immigration and they are usually against popular leaders and politicians. By every logical reason, they will be against Trump – while the Israelis will try to milk Trump as much and as fast as they can.

However, none of it, nor Jews neither viragos and deviants present a deadly threat. This is an opposition and a bother one can live with. The victory of the Yang can’t and won’t be total. Yin and Yang co-exist forever, it is just a question of proportion. President Trump should not even wish for total victory and elimination of Yin elements. It will suffice to push them into their proper subservient place, out of the centre of cultural and economic life. Subservience of the Yang is abnormal, but Yin should keep a modest place. Hopefully this will be achieved.

Israel Shamir can be reached at adam@israelshamir.net

This article was first published at The Unz Review.

 
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  1. Fun piece, but this really got me to thinking:

    The best homosexual writer of the 20th century, Jean Genet

    Tennessee Williams? E. M. Forster? Vidal? Rimbaud?

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    • Replies: @Kyle McKenna
    Aww crap, Rimbaud was the previous century. Proust then? He straddled something or other.
    , @Israel Shamir
    Fine writers you mentioned did not write about homosexuals; not even Proust who dissimulated. Genet, on the other hand, is very explicit.
    , @Che Guava
    Yes, you got your timing wrong. I thought of Wilde, but he wasn't really homosexual, and more a nineteenth-century figure, so got my timing wrong, too.

    I posit Yukio Mishima as the greatest, Burroughs and Genet as equal second.
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  2. @Kyle McKenna
    Fun piece, but this really got me to thinking:

    The best homosexual writer of the 20th century, Jean Genet
     
    Tennessee Williams? E. M. Forster? Vidal? Rimbaud?

    Aww crap, Rimbaud was the previous century. Proust then? He straddled something or other.

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  3. This is what a lot of people think but have been afraid to express because of triumphant political correctness. The “political correctness” concept was developed in East Germany to describe right-thinking supporters of the regime. It became exported to the “west” as a useful term in the last 40 years or so to describe corporate centrism and its identity politics which give it a pseudo-leftist veneer. I am indeed tired of women in sensible suits for fascist harpies, and the idea that the normal is somehow inferior to the perverse.

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  4. Dr. Michael Jones, is that you??

    Logos ascendant.
    Hooray.

    And how could anyone prefer the pink-hatted frump-a-dumps to the elegance of the Trump women.
    Look out O’ Jackie’s back in town.

    btw I think those pink hats are horns not kitten’s ears — the stupid women are too ignorant to recognize how thoroughly they’ve been made fools of, and used to make fools of their men, proving Mario64′s point, that “the secret of all domination: to make the dominated participate to their own domination” http://www.unz.com/article/karl-roves-prophecy/

    “The word cuckold derives from the cuckoo bird, alluding to its habit of laying its eggs in other birds’ nests.[2][3] The association is common in medieval folklore, literature, and iconography. . . .

    In Western traditions, cuckolds have sometimes been described as “wearing the horns of a cuckold” or just “wearing the horns.” This is an allusion to the mating habits of stags, who forfeit their mates when they are defeated by another male.[5]
    ~ In Italy (especially in Southern Italy, where it is a major personal offence), the insult is often accompanied by the sign of the horns.
    ~ In French, the term is porter des cornes, which is used by Molière to describe someone whose consort has been unfaithful.
    ~ In German, the term is “jemandem Hörner aufsetzen”, or “Hörner tragen“, the husband is “der gehörnte Ehemann“.
    # Rabelais wrote the Tiers Livers of Gargantua and Pantagruel in 1546, by which time the symbol of the horns was “so well-known and over-used that the author could barely avoid making reference to it.”[6]
    # Molière’s L’École des femmes (1662) is the story of a man who mocks cuckolds and becomes one at the end.
    # In Geoffrey Chaucer’s Canterbury Tales (c. 1372–77), the “The Miller’s Tale” is a story that humorously examines the life of a cuckold.
    # In Chinese usage, an altogether different allusion is used, when the cuckold (or wittol) is said to be “戴綠帽子” (wearing the green hat), [green, complement to pink] which derives from the sumptuary laws used in China from the 13th to the 18th centuries which required the males in households with prostitutes to wrap their heads in a green scarf (or later a hat). * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuckold

    * Dostoevsky’s prostitute, Sonia, holds a yellow ticket.

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    • Replies: @Israel Shamir
    Indeed Dr Mike Jones has been on my mind when I referred to Logos! Great guy, Mike. We travelled together and lectured Estonians, some years ago.
  5. Wally says:

    Of course the women marchers won’t discuss the fact that women are legally stoned in Muslim countries, or that women can’t drive cars in Muslim countries, and the fact that gays are legally executed for being gay in Muslim countries.
    And that Hillary took millions in ‘donations’ from those very countries.

    No doubt though, wearing “PUSSY” hats helps advance ‘women’s dignity’

    ‘Feminist’ Miley Cyrus certainly knows how to advance women’s dignity:
    And guess what. When they got home afterwards Trump was still President of the US.
    Much ado about nothing.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    In the interest of honesty, let us not nurture myths promoted by MSM regarding women in the Middle East. All across North Africa and the Middle East, women are allowed to drive, except for Saudi Arabia and some minor Gulf Monarchies, who happen to be America's closest allies. As to legal stoning of women, that is a practice that takes place in India, which is not a Muslim country. The treatment of gays is no different than what you would find in Africa, Russia, China and Central and South America.
  6. “Private life in Russia is free and unhindered, but the deviants who want to celebrate their deviance in a public space in the presence of minors are stopped. ”
    Many will find the above far too liberal. I disagree only with ” in the presence of minors” & would amend “minors” to “anyone”.
    Actually, I’m not sure why people need to “celebrate” ANY sexual matters in PUBLIC ? Or is that simply prudishness ? What they — adults– do in the privacy of their own homes is something I wish not to know.

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    • Replies: @fatalist
    "Actually, I’m not sure why people need to “celebrate” ANY sexual matters in PUBLIC ? Or is that simply prudishness ? What they — adults– do in the privacy of their own homes is something I wish not to know."

    Sir, I would like to stand you a pint, but distance.....thank you, anyway.

    I am glad I'll have decomposed back into stardust before these phenomena become widespread.

    God bless Ron Unz.
  7. @Kyle McKenna
    Fun piece, but this really got me to thinking:

    The best homosexual writer of the 20th century, Jean Genet
     
    Tennessee Williams? E. M. Forster? Vidal? Rimbaud?

    Fine writers you mentioned did not write about homosexuals; not even Proust who dissimulated. Genet, on the other hand, is very explicit.

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    • Replies: @Kyle McKenna
    Well.... Williams sort of did, Vidal sort of did... It was different in America you know. France has always been its own planet.

    Nonetheless I certainly defer to your knowledge of Genet, whom I have never read. Now I'm sort of scared to.
  8. Damir says:

    I’d like to thank the author for the books he mentioned, have to study some of them

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  9. The ascent of Donald Trump is more than a change of tenant of the White House on 1600, Pennsylvania Ave. It is a momentous swing from Yin to Yang, from dark feminine to bright masculine paradigm, from Cybele to Christ. Tremendous resistance to the regime change proves its unique importance.

    That’s why the American colour revolution, the attempt to prevent the new president’s reign, took a form of a women’s march

    Spontaneous revolution.

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  10. Men love women, we are made that way. We love their beautiful bodies and their compassionate souls, their high spirit and their subtle mind. They are our lovers, friends, comrades

    .

    We love them so much we have held them captive since the Late Bronze Age. Any harmony that exists between the sexes is the equivalent of a universal “Stockholm Syndrome” in which the captives learn of necessity to love their oppressors.

    Rather than Shamir’s take on the rise of ‘dark’ feminine forces consider what has happened as the call of outraged women for true equality for once. Shamir thinks very little of rad-fems but I look at it quite differently. They want a larger slice of the pie; I want the ladies to have one half the pie and the recipe.

    Ours is the only species where one half, an entire gender, is subordinate to the other. Wouldn’t work with voles, or hippos or rabbits. Why do we think it works for us? Only the failure to reach critical mass in planet devastation and human folly has postponed the inevitable revenge of nature on our sorry lot.

    http://robertmagill.wordpress.com

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    • Replies: @Kyle McKenna
    Wow. You definitely didn't grow up in my family.
    , @Verymuchalive
    You fail to understand that men and women are not equal, but complementary. In totality, the natures of men and women are different.
    You compare humans to voles, hippos and rabbits. But only humans are sentient beings and have free will.
    You regard family relations as being about the subordination of the female sex. Few people, especially not married couples, think that way. Family relations are a complex web of obligations and responsibilities involving both parties.
    , @Verymuchalive
    PS Stop pushing your ridiculous website.
    , @woodNfish
    What load of bull puckey. I'm certain your website, which I have no intention of visiting, is just as ignorant.
    , @Daniel Chieh
    As we can see, equality exists both for bonobos and for chimpanzees.

    Oh wait, it doesn't.

    Equality doesn't exist in nature or anything else.
    , @amused
    @Robert Magill
    "Ours is the only species where one half, an entire gender, is subordinate to the other"
    You poor ignorant fellow, you have never had the chance to look at animals in nature, perhaps not even in a zoo. If you had you would have seen the maulings that lionesses get from lions; you would have seen female monkeys being savaged by male monkeys; or you might have observed the docility of female dogs in the presence of males. Have you been wearing pussy hats since birth? Proud, normal males cherish their females (wives, girl friends, sisters). They don't and have not "hold them captive since the bronze age". I am all for equal rights for the ladies, but I am not sure that wearing pussy hats is going to advance their cause.
    , @Eric Novak
    You are what we call in the Alt Right sphere a cuckold.
    , @Icy Blast
    There's nothing quite as contemptible as a male feminist. Add the cowardly denial of reality and the pretentious Malthusian pseudoscience and you have a recipe for instant nausea.
  11. @Israel Shamir
    Fine writers you mentioned did not write about homosexuals; not even Proust who dissimulated. Genet, on the other hand, is very explicit.

    Well…. Williams sort of did, Vidal sort of did… It was different in America you know. France has always been its own planet.

    Nonetheless I certainly defer to your knowledge of Genet, whom I have never read. Now I’m sort of scared to.

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  12. @Robert Magill

    Men love women, we are made that way. We love their beautiful bodies and their compassionate souls, their high spirit and their subtle mind. They are our lovers, friends, comrades
     
    .

    We love them so much we have held them captive since the Late Bronze Age. Any harmony that exists between the sexes is the equivalent of a universal "Stockholm Syndrome" in which the captives learn of necessity to love their oppressors.

    Rather than Shamir's take on the rise of 'dark' feminine forces consider what has happened as the call of outraged women for true equality for once. Shamir thinks very little of rad-fems but I look at it quite differently. They want a larger slice of the pie; I want the ladies to have one half the pie and the recipe.

    Ours is the only species where one half, an entire gender, is subordinate to the other. Wouldn't work with voles, or hippos or rabbits. Why do we think it works for us? Only the failure to reach critical mass in planet devastation and human folly has postponed the inevitable revenge of nature on our sorry lot.

    http://robertmagill.wordpress.com

    Wow. You definitely didn’t grow up in my family.

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  13. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Wally
    Of course the women marchers won't discuss the fact that women are legally stoned in Muslim countries, or that women can't drive cars in Muslim countries, and the fact that gays are legally executed for being gay in Muslim countries.
    And that Hillary took millions in 'donations' from those very countries.

    No doubt though, wearing "PUSSY" hats helps advance 'women's dignity'

    'Feminist' Miley Cyrus certainly knows how to advance women's dignity:
    http://images.intouchweekly.com/uploads/posts/image/69834/miley-cyrus.jpg

    And guess what. When they got home afterwards Trump was still President of the US.
    Much ado about nothing.

    In the interest of honesty, let us not nurture myths promoted by MSM regarding women in the Middle East. All across North Africa and the Middle East, women are allowed to drive, except for Saudi Arabia and some minor Gulf Monarchies, who happen to be America’s closest allies. As to legal stoning of women, that is a practice that takes place in India, which is not a Muslim country. The treatment of gays is no different than what you would find in Africa, Russia, China and Central and South America.

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    • Replies: @Wally
    Is that supposed to be a rebuttal? LOL.

    As usual, Anon lies.

    And yes, Africa does these things too. Nothing surprising there, they are after all, Africans.


    Just search women stoning, gay execution

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/06/opinions/why-women-stoned-to-death-2015/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5TK2OmTkSQ

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/12/10/iranian-woman-to-be-stoned-to-death-as-rest-world-marks-un-human-rights-day.html

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/06/13/here-are-the-10-countries-where-homosexuality-may-be-punished-by-death-2/?utm_term=.1998f7ec524a

  14. Che Guava says:
    @Kyle McKenna
    Fun piece, but this really got me to thinking:

    The best homosexual writer of the 20th century, Jean Genet
     
    Tennessee Williams? E. M. Forster? Vidal? Rimbaud?

    Yes, you got your timing wrong. I thought of Wilde, but he wasn’t really homosexual, and more a nineteenth-century figure, so got my timing wrong, too.

    I posit Yukio Mishima as the greatest, Burroughs and Genet as equal second.

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    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
    I agree with Mishima, who was otherwise a traditionalist, although a very extreme one. Wasn't he more of a bisexual?
    , @Kyle McKenna
    Interesting. I will try to read some Mishima sometime. I did see a movie about him once, but I doubt it did him justice.
  15. Seraphim says:

    @Subservience of the Yang is abnormal, but Yin should keep a modest place.

    Cybele, Astarte, Ishtar, Semiramis, all old acquaintances:

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    “AND there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters: 2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication. 3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. 4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: 5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. 6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration. 7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns. 8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is. 9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. 10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. 11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition. 12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. 13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. 14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful. 15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. 16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire. 17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled. 18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.
    AND after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. 2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. 3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. 4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. 5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities. 6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double. 7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow. 8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her. 9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning, 10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come. 11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more…22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee…” (Saint John’s Revelation)

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  16. Che Guava says:

    Mr. Shamir,

    I was pleased to read
    Trump went to church hand in hand with his lady-wife just before the oath
    it wasn’t mentioned in any of the accounts I read before.

    Was that the service at the National Cathedral, with parts of the service Judaic and Islamic?

    I fear that you, as I think I and many others were, are too optimistic about the new administration.

    However, having read your whole article, you do make a case for optimism, but it would take ‘You’re fired’ at his son in law, among many others.

    We all must wait and see.

    God bless you, Mr. Shamir.

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    If you expected Trump to be your perfect president and fulfill all your political desires without and areas where you might not fully support him you were living in a fantasy anyway. No candidate will be perfect. You vote for the one who best meets the things you think are important. Trump was far and away the best candidate among both parties, and he will be better for all of us than any of the alternatives.
    , @Israel Shamir
    Che, the church (St. John's Church, across from the White House) had nothing for Jews or Muslims. Even more: the preacher has been chosen for his "bigotry" http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/19/politics/trump-jeffress-pastor/and here are nice pictures of the church attendance http://people.com/politics/donald-and-melania-trump-attend-traditional-inauguration-day-church-service-with-family-members/
    As for necessity to fire his son in law: in my view, Jews can be employed and used all right, just the more important decisions the President must take himself. This is Trump's view, too. And I stressed in the bottom line: let Yin be, just keep it away from dominance.
  17. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    At least the PRiot women were getting paid. The dolts who came out did it for free. It looks like they’re trying to run their own color revolution here domestically, the adopted color being pink this time. First, any election whose results they don’t like, no matter how free and fair, are denounced as illegitimate on spurious grounds such as false claims of fraud, hacking, etc. Next is to bring out masses of deluded protesters into the streets to create a feeling of instability and inflate the perception of their numbers. The media coordinated with the protests under the guise of reporting on them but really advertising it. One major newspaper where I live kept giving instructions on how to join up- ‘what to know if you go’. Celebrities are brought out and street theatre is staged to garner maximum exposure. It’s all by the playbook so far. We’ll see how well they’ll be able to sustain this and if they’ll be able to sabotage the hard-fought success we’ve had.

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  18. TJM says:

    The idea of painting gays as untrustworthy really diminishes the validity of your article. I totally agree with much of your point, but the gay people I work with are the most loyal employees I have. And looking back into history loyalty seems to be their trademark.

    We all know Zionism is a huge problem, and we know they have manipulated feminism into a weapon against men, but what exactly did gay men do? Obama and Clinton were against gay marriage, only after the Supreme court ruled did the politicians see political opportunity.

    We all see the male bashing by Zionist Hollywood, and Feminists, but you did not really point out transgressions by gays to support your insults, maybe you should try…Would make you sound less bigoted and more informative.

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  19. Great stuff.

    The Jewish masterminds of the virago revolt – George Soros and his fellow billionaire Tom Steyer, who pledged $100 million for the regime change, utilised this time-honoured subterfuge.

    Speaking of Soros and FEMEN, he stopped funding them a couple of years back when they decided to open an Israel branch – went off the leash, so to speak.

    That was according to a Facebook post by the group’s France department, anyway.

    If that was as it seems, then it is perhaps the crispest demonstration possible that Soros is not some merely deluded billionaire but an actively malevolent enemy of European-American civilization.

    Gay International

    Homintern.

    If there is a topic that generated a lot of dislike abroad for the US it was is for pushing the same sex agenda.

    The presumptive end of the bizarre “human rights are gay rights and gay rights are human rights” shtick adopted in the past 5 years by the US is yet another good if minor thing to look forwards to with Trump.

    So unless he wants to provide for them just for pleasure of being nice to some Jews, this relationship is not likely to last long, and may end in sorrow.

    Trump is related to Jews through family ties (as is Putin, incidentally).

    I have an acquaintance of sorts through my Bay Area cirles to a Jew who was extremely triggered by Trump and literally saw him as the next Hitler. Predictably, he also absolutely hated Russia. He was seriously considering pursuing Polish citizenship through ancestral ties were Trump to win. He wasn’t pleased when I pointed out that according to the ADL the US and even Vladimir “Leader of Global White Supremacy ala Hillary” Putin’s Russia were both far less anti-Semitic than Poland.

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    Homintern! Bravo! And thank you for the Femen Israeli trip story - it fits nicely. As for relation to Jews - this is very very common and means very little. Spaniards used to say limpieza de sangre is found in peasant families only. I doubt it would justify, say, bombing of Iran.
    And regarding Poland: they are very philosemitic. In Krakow, there is a Jewish Quarter with many Jewish restaurants and Jewish music and a lot of visitors. Amusingly, there are no Jews, and gentile Poles dress and act as Jews for the benefit of tourists.
  20. Durruti says:

    Israel Shamir:

    Lovely emotional rant. One must read the whole – to understand.

    Women are our other half, and we theirs.

    I specially liked, ” Go back to your closets, you poor tormented souls, together with BDSM, paedophiles and other pizza consumers, and stay there.”

    And some of the dark history- hidden (by the Jewish/Zionist Mainstream Media – Mis/Education Establishment), “But then, there were Zionist Jews who thought Hitler would be good for the Jews. They tried, and succeeded in running a profitable business with Nazi Germany between 1933 and 1941.”

    And there is more ugly history of Zionist crimes; you should reveal them to us when you can.

    I hope your version of Casino Trump will take the stage of history in the coming years. I doubt it; but it would be nice to be wrong.

    Israel Shamir; you are a good egg.

    In America, we must Restore our Republic!

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    An old Leftie who is obviously not a homophile. Now there's a shock ! The LGBT issue has been used by the mainstream Left to silence or expel those who disagree. After all, they might have deviant ideas - like wanting to protect the indigenous working class, white or otherwise.
    Good thing there are still independent websites like Unz where you are permitted to express your opinions.
    , @Captain Cook
    Yes, "Restore our Republic!" might have been an even better Trump campaign pitch than "Make America Great Again." (less redolent of TRiUMPhalism (both lost and aspired)
  21. @Robert Magill

    Men love women, we are made that way. We love their beautiful bodies and their compassionate souls, their high spirit and their subtle mind. They are our lovers, friends, comrades
     
    .

    We love them so much we have held them captive since the Late Bronze Age. Any harmony that exists between the sexes is the equivalent of a universal "Stockholm Syndrome" in which the captives learn of necessity to love their oppressors.

    Rather than Shamir's take on the rise of 'dark' feminine forces consider what has happened as the call of outraged women for true equality for once. Shamir thinks very little of rad-fems but I look at it quite differently. They want a larger slice of the pie; I want the ladies to have one half the pie and the recipe.

    Ours is the only species where one half, an entire gender, is subordinate to the other. Wouldn't work with voles, or hippos or rabbits. Why do we think it works for us? Only the failure to reach critical mass in planet devastation and human folly has postponed the inevitable revenge of nature on our sorry lot.

    http://robertmagill.wordpress.com

    You fail to understand that men and women are not equal, but complementary. In totality, the natures of men and women are different.
    You compare humans to voles, hippos and rabbits. But only humans are sentient beings and have free will.
    You regard family relations as being about the subordination of the female sex. Few people, especially not married couples, think that way. Family relations are a complex web of obligations and responsibilities involving both parties.

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    Rabbits - at least most successful species, which is the European rabbit - have dominant males which are polygyny, and like many mammals, males fight over rights of females. Appeals to nature for equality are one of the dumbest there are.
  22. @Robert Magill

    Men love women, we are made that way. We love their beautiful bodies and their compassionate souls, their high spirit and their subtle mind. They are our lovers, friends, comrades
     
    .

    We love them so much we have held them captive since the Late Bronze Age. Any harmony that exists between the sexes is the equivalent of a universal "Stockholm Syndrome" in which the captives learn of necessity to love their oppressors.

    Rather than Shamir's take on the rise of 'dark' feminine forces consider what has happened as the call of outraged women for true equality for once. Shamir thinks very little of rad-fems but I look at it quite differently. They want a larger slice of the pie; I want the ladies to have one half the pie and the recipe.

    Ours is the only species where one half, an entire gender, is subordinate to the other. Wouldn't work with voles, or hippos or rabbits. Why do we think it works for us? Only the failure to reach critical mass in planet devastation and human folly has postponed the inevitable revenge of nature on our sorry lot.

    http://robertmagill.wordpress.com

    PS Stop pushing your ridiculous website.

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    Yes, stop pushing your ridiculous website and writing a post and linking it to the same thing on your so called website.
  23. @Durruti
    Israel Shamir:

    Lovely emotional rant. One must read the whole - to understand.

    Women are our other half, and we theirs.

    I specially liked, " Go back to your closets, you poor tormented souls, together with BDSM, paedophiles and other pizza consumers, and stay there."

    And some of the dark history- hidden (by the Jewish/Zionist Mainstream Media - Mis/Education Establishment), "But then, there were Zionist Jews who thought Hitler would be good for the Jews. They tried, and succeeded in running a profitable business with Nazi Germany between 1933 and 1941."

    And there is more ugly history of Zionist crimes; you should reveal them to us when you can.

    I hope your version of Casino Trump will take the stage of history in the coming years. I doubt it; but it would be nice to be wrong.

    Israel Shamir; you are a good egg.

    In America, we must Restore our Republic!

    An old Leftie who is obviously not a homophile. Now there’s a shock ! The LGBT issue has been used by the mainstream Left to silence or expel those who disagree. After all, they might have deviant ideas – like wanting to protect the indigenous working class, white or otherwise.
    Good thing there are still independent websites like Unz where you are permitted to express your opinions.

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    Unclear, as you apparently comment on something I wrote.

    "An old Leftie who is obviously not a homophile."

    If you are referring to me...

    How do you know I am old?

    How do you know I am - or was - a "Leftie" ?

    How do you know I am not a "homophile"? You got this right. Any 2 or more consenting adults...

    Could not agree more with you - "The LGBT issue has been used by the mainstream Left to silence or expel those who disagree. After all, they might have deviant ideas – like wanting to protect the indigenous working class, white or otherwise.
    Good thing there are still independent websites like Unz where you are permitted to express your opinions."

    God Bless Ron Unz!

    God Bless our "indigenous working class, white or otherwise."

    Let all peoples, of our great Human (sometimes inhuman), Race live where they please in Liberty and Prosperity, and free from imperialist control and Zionist Land Thieves. Without imperialist and colonialist land and resource grabbing pressures, there would be far less movement by the “poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.” Of course these "huddled masses" also appreciate the opportunity to earn a decent living.

    The case with most of the Mexican People, north of the Rio Grande, is that they are moving back and forth within their own country. I would peruse General Grant's volume of Personal Memoirs. He is eloquent in his criticism of the American land grab of Northern Mexico.

    If we may house one of Mexico's great Drug Lords, surely they can house a few of our crooked politicians and diverse War Criminals. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjS4dKhqtvRAhWRxiYKHdJyD6wQFggaMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F2017%2F01%2F19%2Fus%2Fel-chapo-guzman-turned-over-to-us%2F&usg=AFQjCNFKj3Pq4tzZjnESbPQb8pf3ikSkVg&sig2=lB6CU2z4No6QHrMPzs45uQ&bvm=bv.144686652,d.eWE

    My this is fun.

  24. Jason Liu says:

    I don’t think its wise to leave race out of this. If you look at the march, it is very disproportionately white women, mainly old hippie grannies and unattractive SJW types. Other women are not as likely to perceived Trump as unusually offensive, or as afraid of the things white women think he’ll do.

    The zeitgeist points towards a fall of white women from their nearly aristocratic position over the last few decades, and the march is really the dying gasps of those struggling to hold back progress.

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    Actually, in several major cities I've lived and worked in, including DC and Los Angeles, it looks like white and Asian women are taking over more and more federal government jobs as attorneys, judges, prosecutors, public defenders, policy analysts, and the like.

    Let's see how long they can keep out or keep down the burgeoning Mexican hordes who will be competing for those good jobs.
  25. Dianna says:

    Logos=word=Jesus Christ=regulative principle=rational

    Satan works thru manipulation of the emotions, using the “feminine Arts”, ie. poetry, music singing dancing and theater to overcome the rational logical thinking of mankind. Women are highly manipulated thru their emotions. This is why Satan attacked Eve first to get to Adam.

    I believe it was Aristotle who said if you want to keep fighting men suppressed you teach them to become players of musical instruments and merchants, and they will become women instead of men. (I will post the direct quote in another post)

    §3. For it was through Eve that he came in upon Adam, 49 and Adam was enticed because of his inexperience.

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    See Testament of Judah Judah was tempted by his own daughter in law and therefore PAWNED the scepter of his rule. It was Judah who sold Joseph into Egyptian bondage.

    And again he came in against Joseph through his master’s wife, 50 but Joseph was acquainted with his craftiness and would not afford him a hearing.

    Through a woman he fought with Samson, 51 until he took away his Nazariteship.

    Reuben was the first-born of all his brethren, and through his father’s wife, 52 (the adversary) cast a blemish upon him.

    Aaron was the great high-priest of the house of Israel, and through Miriam 53 his sister he envied Moses.
    See Miriam whose name means bitter and rebellious. She was probably a prophetess of Hathor.
    Moses was sent to deliver the people from Egypt, and took with him the woman who advised him to shameful acts, 54 and the Lord met with Moses, and desired to slay him, till he sent back his wife to Midian.

    David was victorious in all his battles, yet through means of a daughter of Eve 55 there was found a blemish in him.

    “Before the establishment of the kingdom under Saul, it was the women who, as in every young civilization, played a major part in the performance of music. Such figures as Miriam, Deborah, Jephthah’s daughter, and the women hailing the young hero David have become almost archetypes of female musicians.

    “Characteristic of all these cases is the familiar picture of a female chorus, dancing and singing, accompanied by frenzied drum-beating.
    This is the scene known to the entire Near East, and not
    “even the severe rule of Islam could wholly suppress this age-old practice.” (Int Dict of the Bible, Music, p. 457).

    Amnon was beautiful and fair in countenance, yet (the adversary) took him captive by desire for his sister, 56 and Absalom slew him on account of the humbling of Tamar.

    Solomon was greater than all the kings of the earth, yet in the days of his old age his wives led his heart astray. 57

    “Women and girls from the different ranks of society were proud to enter the service of the gods as singers and musicians. The understanding of this service was universal: these singers constituted the ‘harem of the gods’.” (Music & Worship in Pagan and Christian Antiquity )

    But when Athaliah the mother of Ahaziah saw that her son was dead, she arose and destroyed all the seed royal of the house of Judah (Grandchildren). 2 Chronicles 22:10
    She missed one grandson and when they proclaimed him King they effectively sounded the musical censure against her and killed her.

    Through Jezebel, daughter of Ethbaal, the wickedness of Ahab was increased, 58 and he became altogether a heathen.

    Furthermore, the adversary tempted Job through his children and his possessions, 59 and when he could not prevail over him, he went and brought against him his armour, and he came, bringing with him a daughter of Eve, who had caused Adam to sink, and through her mouth he said to Job, her righteous husband:-Curse God. 60 But Job rejected her counsel.

    King Asa also conquered the Accursed-of-life, when he wished to come in against him, through his mother. 61 For Asa knew his craftiness and removed his mother from her high estate, and cut in pieces her idol and cast it down.

    John was greater than all the prophets, yet Herod slew him because of the dancing of a daughter of Eve. 62

    Haman was wealthy and third in honour from the King, yet his wife counselled him to destroy the Jews. 63

    Zimri was head of the tribe of Simeon, yet Cozbi, daughter of the chiefs of Midian, overthrew him, and because of one woman twenty-four thousand of Israel fell in one day. 64

    H3576 kâzab kaw-zab’ A primitive root; to lie (that is, deceive), literally or figuratively:—fail, (be found a, make a) liar, lie, lying, be in vain
    H2174 zimrıy zim-ree’ From H2167 ; musical; Zimri, the name of five Israelites, and of an Arabian tribe:—Zimri.
    H2167 zâmar zaw-mar’ A primitive root (perhaps identical with H2168 through the idea of striking with the fingers); properly to touch the strings or parts of a musical instrument, that is, play upon it; to make music, accompanied by the voice; hence to celebrate in song and music:—give praise, sing forth praises, psalms.

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    All was known well before the 'Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs", which are late apocryphal texts. The story of the continuous work of Satan among humans after their fall is contained in the Book of Genesis:
    "AND it came to pass when men began to be numerous upon the earth, and daughters were born to them, 2 that the sons of God having seen the daughters of men that they were beautiful, took to themselves wives of all whom they chose. 3 And the Lord God said, My Spirit shall certainly not remain among these men for ever, because they are flesh, but their days shall be an hundred and twenty years. 4 Now the giants were upon the earth in those days; and after that when the sons of God were wont to go in to the daughters of men, they bore [children to them, those were the giants of old, the men of renown. 5 And the Lord God, having seen that the wicked actions of men were multiplied upon the earth, and that every one in his heart was intently brooding over evil continually, 6 then God laid it to heart that he had made man upon the earth, and he pondered [it] deeply. 7 And God said, I will blot out man whom I have made from the face of the earth, even man with cattle, and reptiles with flying creatures of the sky, for I am grieved that I have made them. 8 But Noe found grace before the Lord God....

    Who the 'sons of God' were, we learn more from the Book of Enoch (which is a 'semi-canonical' Scripture), they were not 'angels' but humans:
    "The names of the leaders [the Watchers] are given as "Samyaza (Shemyazaz), their leader, Araqiel, Râmêêl, Kokabiel, Tamiel, Ramiel, Dânêl, Chazaqiel, Baraqiel, Asael, Armaros, Batariel, Bezaliel, Ananiel, Zaqiel, Shamsiel, Satariel, Turiel, Yomiel, Sariel"

    "And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three hundred ells:Who consumed all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, the giants turned against them and devoured mankind. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood...
    And Azâzêl taught men to make swords, and knives, and shields, and breastplates, and made known to them the metals of the earth and the art of working them, and bracelets, and ornaments, and the use of antimony, and the beautifying of the eyelids, and all kinds of costly stones, and all colouring tinctures. And there arose much godlessness, and they committed fornication, and they were led astray, and became corrupt in all their ways. Semjâzâ taught enchantments, and root-cuttings, Armârôs the resolving of enchantments, Barâqîjâl, taught astrology, Kôkabêl the constellations, Ezêqêêl the knowledge of the clouds, Araqiêl the signs of the earth, Shamsiêl the signs of the sun, and Sariêl the course of the moon...
    [Michael, Uriel, Raphael, and Gabriel appeal to God to judge the inhabitants of the world and the fallen angels. Uriel is then sent by God to tell Noah of the coming cataclysm and what he needs to do].
    "Then said the Most High, the Holy and Great One spoke, and sent Uriel to the son of Lamech, and said to him: Go to Noah and tell him in my name "Hide thyself!" and reveal to him the end that is approaching: that the whole earth will be destroyed, and a deluge is about to come upon the whole earth, and will destroy all that is on it. And now instruct him that he may escape and his seed may be preserved for all the generations of the world....

  26. @Jason Liu
    I don't think its wise to leave race out of this. If you look at the march, it is very disproportionately white women, mainly old hippie grannies and unattractive SJW types. Other women are not as likely to perceived Trump as unusually offensive, or as afraid of the things white women think he'll do.

    The zeitgeist points towards a fall of white women from their nearly aristocratic position over the last few decades, and the march is really the dying gasps of those struggling to hold back progress.

    Actually, in several major cities I’ve lived and worked in, including DC and Los Angeles, it looks like white and Asian women are taking over more and more federal government jobs as attorneys, judges, prosecutors, public defenders, policy analysts, and the like.

    Let’s see how long they can keep out or keep down the burgeoning Mexican hordes who will be competing for those good jobs.

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  27. woodNfish says:

    Would you be surprised to learn that all three movements had been financed by Jewish hedge fund managers? Why do these men try so hard to manipulate women for gain?

    Because they know many women are nothing more than dumb cunts.

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    reminds me of Deadwood, the great HBO series (2003-5) on Deadwood, S. Dakota and its goldrush ca. 1875.

    It is 10 times better than Sopranos and so on, although I am generally ignorant of other series, thank god. Get it and watch it...amazing, Shakespearean, including diction. Our contemporary cuss words put me off , but googling it, they claimed that the 19th C. cussing does not match our own for emotional meaning.

    Swearengen, the most interesting character in the series, whorehouse owner, refers to the ladies as "loopy cunts" which for some reason gets me laughing every time. Kind of like pussies flying around in loops.

    David Milch, jew, invented the show and he is a genius, even though his jewishness prevents him from presenting a jew and a couple of black characters realistically. .

    "Cunt" means female and who cares, sorta, like Trump's grabbing. "Loopy" is important cuz, the gals are over-endowed by biology with Emotion. I have read that white women generally have a five point deficit compared to white men, in intelligence. But any particular woman can be quite bright, but she too is betrayed by her large Emotional brain. Hence 'loopy.' Even the admirable gals in the show have their loopiness. Pay attention to the diction. Use your subtitles...you cannot let a word go by unnoted.

    Our gals are making slow but steady progress despite rioting pussies. 53% of them voted for T. I have read. When their children are threatened , the various subversions fly out the window.
    Stand by Your Man is Becoming....the loopy cunts are losing. Still, the childless ladies are without Guidance, both from Men, and from their own biology.

    JW

  28. …according to the ADL …

    I checked out that link and I must say that someone has to be in a pretty bad mental state to be so obsessed with “anti-Semitism” as to invent and implement something like that.

    Soros is not some merely deluded billionaire but an actively malevolent enemy of European-American civilization.

    Of that can there be any doubt? And that clown is most certainly only the tip of one iceberg. What can any society effectively do to inoculate itself against such obvious pathology?

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    "What can any society effectively do to inoculate itself against such obvious pathology?"

    Get rid of government. Not likely since man creates societies that make it nearly impossible to evolve beyond that destructive curse of nature.
    , @Daniel Chieh

    What can any society effectively do to inoculate itself against such obvious pathology?
     
    Can't. Complexity of society brings reduction of forces that select against the ill-fitted, essentially we need to reverse it so that the individual liberty is more restricted and guarantee of life and liberty isn't present to reduce the presence of parasites.

    But many thanks to Mr. Unz for giving us a fighting chance these days, and I do believe he contributed a lot. Its good that we have some of the Chosen on the side of the good.

  29. woodNfish says:
    @Robert Magill

    Men love women, we are made that way. We love their beautiful bodies and their compassionate souls, their high spirit and their subtle mind. They are our lovers, friends, comrades
     
    .

    We love them so much we have held them captive since the Late Bronze Age. Any harmony that exists between the sexes is the equivalent of a universal "Stockholm Syndrome" in which the captives learn of necessity to love their oppressors.

    Rather than Shamir's take on the rise of 'dark' feminine forces consider what has happened as the call of outraged women for true equality for once. Shamir thinks very little of rad-fems but I look at it quite differently. They want a larger slice of the pie; I want the ladies to have one half the pie and the recipe.

    Ours is the only species where one half, an entire gender, is subordinate to the other. Wouldn't work with voles, or hippos or rabbits. Why do we think it works for us? Only the failure to reach critical mass in planet devastation and human folly has postponed the inevitable revenge of nature on our sorry lot.

    http://robertmagill.wordpress.com

    What load of bull puckey. I’m certain your website, which I have no intention of visiting, is just as ignorant.

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  30. woodNfish says:
    @Che Guava
    Mr. Shamir,

    I was pleased to read
    Trump went to church hand in hand with his lady-wife just before the oath
    it wasn't mentioned in any of the accounts I read before.

    Was that the service at the National Cathedral, with parts of the service Judaic and Islamic?

    I fear that you, as I think I and many others were, are too optimistic about the new administration.

    However, having read your whole article, you do make a case for optimism, but it would take 'You're fired' at his son in law, among many others.

    We all must wait and see.

    God bless you, Mr. Shamir.

    If you expected Trump to be your perfect president and fulfill all your political desires without and areas where you might not fully support him you were living in a fantasy anyway. No candidate will be perfect. You vote for the one who best meets the things you think are important. Trump was far and away the best candidate among both parties, and he will be better for all of us than any of the alternatives.

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  31. Dianna says:

    Correcting my prior post this is correct quote:

    Hdt. 1.155 [3] When Cyrus heard of this on his journey, he said to Croesus, “What end to this business, Croesus? It seems that the Lydians will never stop making trouble for me and for themselves. It occurs to me that it may be best to make slaves of them; for it seems I have acted like one who slays the father and spares the children. [2] So likewise I have taken with me you who were more than a father to the Lydians, and handed the city over to the Lydians themselves; and then indeed I marvel that they revolt!” So Cyrus uttered his thought; but Croesus feared that he would destroy Sardis, and answered him thus: [3

    “O King, what you say is reasonable. But do not ever yield to anger, or destroy an ancient city that is innocent both of the former and of the present offense. For the former I am responsible, and bear the punishment on my head; while Pactyes, in whose charge you left Sardis, does this present wrong; let him, then, pay the penalty.
    [4] Grant, then, forgiveness to the Lydians,
    and to make sure of their never rebelling against thee, or alarming thee more,
    send and forbid them to keep any weapons of war,
    command them to wear tunics under their cloaks, and to put buskins upon their legs,
    and make them bring up their sons to cithern-playing (Kitharizein), singing (psallein),
    and shop-keeping (Hucksterism).
    So wilt thou soon see them become women instead of men,
    and there will be no more fear of their revolting from thee

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  32. Durruti says:
    @Verymuchalive
    An old Leftie who is obviously not a homophile. Now there's a shock ! The LGBT issue has been used by the mainstream Left to silence or expel those who disagree. After all, they might have deviant ideas - like wanting to protect the indigenous working class, white or otherwise.
    Good thing there are still independent websites like Unz where you are permitted to express your opinions.

    Unclear, as you apparently comment on something I wrote.

    “An old Leftie who is obviously not a homophile.”

    If you are referring to me…

    How do you know I am old?

    How do you know I am – or was – a “Leftie” ?

    How do you know I am not a “homophile”? You got this right. Any 2 or more consenting adults…

    Could not agree more with you – “The LGBT issue has been used by the mainstream Left to silence or expel those who disagree. After all, they might have deviant ideas – like wanting to protect the indigenous working class, white or otherwise.
    Good thing there are still independent websites like Unz where you are permitted to express your opinions.”

    God Bless Ron Unz!

    God Bless our “indigenous working class, white or otherwise.”

    Let all peoples, of our great Human (sometimes inhuman), Race live where they please in Liberty and Prosperity, and free from imperialist control and Zionist Land Thieves. Without imperialist and colonialist land and resource grabbing pressures, there would be far less movement by the “poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.” Of course these “huddled masses” also appreciate the opportunity to earn a decent living.

    The case with most of the Mexican People, north of the Rio Grande, is that they are moving back and forth within their own country. I would peruse General Grant‘s volume of Personal Memoirs. He is eloquent in his criticism of the American land grab of Northern Mexico.

    If we may house one of Mexico’s great Drug Lords, surely they can house a few of our crooked politicians and diverse War Criminals. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjS4dKhqtvRAhWRxiYKHdJyD6wQFggaMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F2017%2F01%2F19%2Fus%2Fel-chapo-guzman-turned-over-to-us%2F&usg=AFQjCNFKj3Pq4tzZjnESbPQb8pf3ikSkVg&sig2=lB6CU2z4No6QHrMPzs45uQ&bvm=bv.144686652,d.eWE

    My this is fun.

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    Sorry, but I did visit your website ( to verify Old Leftie ). You occasionally mention it in passing.
    There is life outside Unz Central - for all of us.
  33. Agent76 says:

    Sep 14, 2016 Margaret Sanger’s Dark Legacy

    Margaret Sanger worked from an office in New York City. Does the building deserve to be designated as a National Historic Landmark?

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  34. joe webb says:
    @woodNfish

    Would you be surprised to learn that all three movements had been financed by Jewish hedge fund managers? Why do these men try so hard to manipulate women for gain?
     
    Because they know many women are nothing more than dumb cunts.

    reminds me of Deadwood, the great HBO series (2003-5) on Deadwood, S. Dakota and its goldrush ca. 1875.

    It is 10 times better than Sopranos and so on, although I am generally ignorant of other series, thank god. Get it and watch it…amazing, Shakespearean, including diction. Our contemporary cuss words put me off , but googling it, they claimed that the 19th C. cussing does not match our own for emotional meaning.

    Swearengen, the most interesting character in the series, whorehouse owner, refers to the ladies as “loopy cunts” which for some reason gets me laughing every time. Kind of like pussies flying around in loops.

    David Milch, jew, invented the show and he is a genius, even though his jewishness prevents him from presenting a jew and a couple of black characters realistically. .

    “Cunt” means female and who cares, sorta, like Trump’s grabbing. “Loopy” is important cuz, the gals are over-endowed by biology with Emotion. I have read that white women generally have a five point deficit compared to white men, in intelligence. But any particular woman can be quite bright, but she too is betrayed by her large Emotional brain. Hence ‘loopy.’ Even the admirable gals in the show have their loopiness. Pay attention to the diction. Use your subtitles…you cannot let a word go by unnoted.

    Our gals are making slow but steady progress despite rioting pussies. 53% of them voted for T. I have read. When their children are threatened , the various subversions fly out the window.
    Stand by Your Man is Becoming….the loopy cunts are losing. Still, the childless ladies are without Guidance, both from Men, and from their own biology.

    JW

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    Joe,

    I should have clarified my comment, and meant to, but by the time I was going to do it, I couldn't edit it any longer. What I should have written is, "Because they know many women are dumbass commie cunts."

    You are right, not all women are morns. Madam Curie comes to mind as one of the great scientists who happened to be female., and my wife is extremely smart, (and not just because she married me). I even know some democrat women who are smart, but the vote stupid. That is why I wrote "many" and not all. Intelligence like most things in life is a bell curve.

    I must say one thing though, whores and prostitutes are not "ladies". A lady would never be either one, and she wouldn't be seen with the commie cunts who marched on Sunday. Ashley Judd is no lady, and she is a whore as are most the feminazi leaders who aren't rug munching perverts.

    Mostly though they are a very sad sight - dumb and duped by the Left with nothing to proclaim except the desire to murder their babies, be whores and be taken advantage of. There is a reason the grubers are called "useful tools."
  35. @jacques sheete

    ...according to the ADL ...
     
    I checked out that link and I must say that someone has to be in a pretty bad mental state to be so obsessed with "anti-Semitism" as to invent and implement something like that.

    Soros is not some merely deluded billionaire but an actively malevolent enemy of European-American civilization.
     
    Of that can there be any doubt? And that clown is most certainly only the tip of one iceberg. What can any society effectively do to inoculate itself against such obvious pathology?

    “What can any society effectively do to inoculate itself against such obvious pathology?”

    Get rid of government. Not likely since man creates societies that make it nearly impossible to evolve beyond that destructive curse of nature.

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  36. Ximenes says:

    More likely than a swing from Cybele to Christ, Trump is more likely to have been put in power for maximum polarizing effect– perhaps put there by the same tribe that organized the pussy march. Would the march have taken place if Ted Cruz or John Kasich had become President?

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  37. Mr. shamir is one of the few jews willing to criticize other jews and israel. that says alot. I like people who aren’t afraid to point out faults and not are 100% blind to the faults of their own race.

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  38. Wally says:
    @Anon
    In the interest of honesty, let us not nurture myths promoted by MSM regarding women in the Middle East. All across North Africa and the Middle East, women are allowed to drive, except for Saudi Arabia and some minor Gulf Monarchies, who happen to be America's closest allies. As to legal stoning of women, that is a practice that takes place in India, which is not a Muslim country. The treatment of gays is no different than what you would find in Africa, Russia, China and Central and South America.
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    How do you know this scene isn't staged? Answer: You don't.
  39. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    The best homosexual writer of the 20th century, Jean Genet, glorified cruelty, betrayal and murder in his wonderful Our Lady of Flowers.

    I’d say the best homosexual writer of the 20th century is Japanese Yukio Mishima. His personality had some of Genet’s features (when his personality started to form he “fell in love with men’s muscles and death”), but they are very distant from one another when it comes to betrayal, as Mishima’s words and life’s conclusion are there to prove.

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    Never read him but Proust is considered by many to be the greatest novelist of the 20th century.
    I think he was homo or bi.

    I think Lorca was a homo. He was a great poet.

    There were rumors that Kafka was a closet-homo, but I dunno.

    Tennessee Williams and Capote were homos.

    Pasolini should have stuck to literature. His early films were good but he progressively got worse after 65.

    Thomas Mann was married but considered a homo.

    Gore Vidal was a very entertaining fruit.
  40. @Robert Magill

    Men love women, we are made that way. We love their beautiful bodies and their compassionate souls, their high spirit and their subtle mind. They are our lovers, friends, comrades
     
    .

    We love them so much we have held them captive since the Late Bronze Age. Any harmony that exists between the sexes is the equivalent of a universal "Stockholm Syndrome" in which the captives learn of necessity to love their oppressors.

    Rather than Shamir's take on the rise of 'dark' feminine forces consider what has happened as the call of outraged women for true equality for once. Shamir thinks very little of rad-fems but I look at it quite differently. They want a larger slice of the pie; I want the ladies to have one half the pie and the recipe.

    Ours is the only species where one half, an entire gender, is subordinate to the other. Wouldn't work with voles, or hippos or rabbits. Why do we think it works for us? Only the failure to reach critical mass in planet devastation and human folly has postponed the inevitable revenge of nature on our sorry lot.

    http://robertmagill.wordpress.com

    As we can see, equality exists both for bonobos and for chimpanzees.

    Oh wait, it doesn’t.

    Equality doesn’t exist in nature or anything else.

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  41. Thank you Israel Shamir. You always surprise me with your point of view. You are fun to read and very convincing in the way you present your thoughts. I will comb through this piece later today and familiarize myself with words and ideas that I have not encountered before.

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  42. @Verymuchalive
    You fail to understand that men and women are not equal, but complementary. In totality, the natures of men and women are different.
    You compare humans to voles, hippos and rabbits. But only humans are sentient beings and have free will.
    You regard family relations as being about the subordination of the female sex. Few people, especially not married couples, think that way. Family relations are a complex web of obligations and responsibilities involving both parties.

    Rabbits – at least most successful species, which is the European rabbit – have dominant males which are polygyny, and like many mammals, males fight over rights of females. Appeals to nature for equality are one of the dumbest there are.

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    In complete agreement with your statement. Rabbits, hippos etc are largely creatures of instinct. They are no agency, free will. Comparisons with humans are completely fallacious.
  43. @jacques sheete

    ...according to the ADL ...
     
    I checked out that link and I must say that someone has to be in a pretty bad mental state to be so obsessed with "anti-Semitism" as to invent and implement something like that.

    Soros is not some merely deluded billionaire but an actively malevolent enemy of European-American civilization.
     
    Of that can there be any doubt? And that clown is most certainly only the tip of one iceberg. What can any society effectively do to inoculate itself against such obvious pathology?

    What can any society effectively do to inoculate itself against such obvious pathology?

    Can’t. Complexity of society brings reduction of forces that select against the ill-fitted, essentially we need to reverse it so that the individual liberty is more restricted and guarantee of life and liberty isn’t present to reduce the presence of parasites.

    But many thanks to Mr. Unz for giving us a fighting chance these days, and I do believe he contributed a lot. Its good that we have some of the Chosen on the side of the good.

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  44. Here’s a Yin-Yang ideology that is endorsed by the US 2-party system and also endorsed by most voters, wittingly and unwittingly:

    [MORE]

    Women are federally entitled because of Male oppression
    Jewish are federally entitled because of Gentile oppression
    Queers are federally entitled because of Straight oppression
    Muslims are federally entitled because of Christian oppression
    Disabled are federally entitled because of Healthy oppression
    Afro-blacks are federally entitled because of White oppression
    Latinos are federally entitled because of Gringo oppression
    Hispanics are federally entitled because of Gringo oppression
    Military Veteran are federally entitled because of Militia oppression
    2-party System Dependents are federally entitled because of Independent oppression
    Aboriginals are federally entitled because of Paleface oppression
    Asians are federally entitled because of Occidental oppression
    National Socialist are federally entitled because of Local-State Government oppression
    Crony Capitalist are federally entitled because of Honest Businessmen oppression
    Crooks are federally entitled because of Law-Abiding people oppression
    Zionist are federally entitled because of Anti-Fascist oppression

    Some illicit federal entitlements currently enjoyed by women:

    1. Affirmative Action for women
    2. Generous 8A government set-aside business contracts for female owned businesses
    3. No required military service or selective service for women
    4. Government anti-discrimination laws for women
    5. Title VII and Title IX laws for women
    6. Rape shield laws protect female liars in court
    7 Generous government benefits for single mothers
    8. Men get screwed in child custody cases
    9.Taxpayer financed Abortion on demand
    10. Government sponsored homeless and rehab shelters for women
    11. All health insurance policies require universal coverage for female-specific problems
    12. Ridiculous feminine political correctness studies and speech codes in public colleges and universities and government offices
    13. National Women’s history month
    14. Sexual harassment laws for women
    15. Special Violence against Women Laws
    16. Most cushy government jobs employ women
    17. Equal Pay Act of 1963 for women
    18. Lowered physical standards by law for female policemen and firemen and soldier
    19. Female-only institutions allowed by law, no male-only institutions allowed
    20. Battered woman defense allowed in first degree murder court cases
    21. Hate speech laws protecting women and other protected classes
    22. Women are a majority of voters in a totalitarian democracy
    23. Men pay 96% of all alimony, women pay 4%
    24. Women regularly vote for themselves illicit federal entitlements, take no responsibility for the consequences
    25. Democrats and Republicans regularly offer new illicit federal entitlements to women in exchange for their vote
    26. Examples of newer, illicit federal entitlements for women offered by Democrats and Republicans:

    Paycheck Fairness Act
    Paid leave for women
    Single Payer Health Insurance for Women and Children
    Living Wage, increased federal minimum wage
    Enhanced Social Security benefits for women
    Federal Health Insurance for illegal alien women
    More Federal Funding for Planned Parenthood
    Mandatory universal health insurance coverage for women’s issues, including affordable contraception, preventive care, and safe and legal abortion
    More foreign wars and intrigues to promote female entitlements across the globe
    Increased federal monitoring and enforcement of laws prohibiting violence against women

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  45. @Durruti
    Unclear, as you apparently comment on something I wrote.

    "An old Leftie who is obviously not a homophile."

    If you are referring to me...

    How do you know I am old?

    How do you know I am - or was - a "Leftie" ?

    How do you know I am not a "homophile"? You got this right. Any 2 or more consenting adults...

    Could not agree more with you - "The LGBT issue has been used by the mainstream Left to silence or expel those who disagree. After all, they might have deviant ideas – like wanting to protect the indigenous working class, white or otherwise.
    Good thing there are still independent websites like Unz where you are permitted to express your opinions."

    God Bless Ron Unz!

    God Bless our "indigenous working class, white or otherwise."

    Let all peoples, of our great Human (sometimes inhuman), Race live where they please in Liberty and Prosperity, and free from imperialist control and Zionist Land Thieves. Without imperialist and colonialist land and resource grabbing pressures, there would be far less movement by the “poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.” Of course these "huddled masses" also appreciate the opportunity to earn a decent living.

    The case with most of the Mexican People, north of the Rio Grande, is that they are moving back and forth within their own country. I would peruse General Grant's volume of Personal Memoirs. He is eloquent in his criticism of the American land grab of Northern Mexico.

    If we may house one of Mexico's great Drug Lords, surely they can house a few of our crooked politicians and diverse War Criminals. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjS4dKhqtvRAhWRxiYKHdJyD6wQFggaMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F2017%2F01%2F19%2Fus%2Fel-chapo-guzman-turned-over-to-us%2F&usg=AFQjCNFKj3Pq4tzZjnESbPQb8pf3ikSkVg&sig2=lB6CU2z4No6QHrMPzs45uQ&bvm=bv.144686652,d.eWE

    My this is fun.

    Sorry, but I did visit your website ( to verify Old Leftie ). You occasionally mention it in passing.
    There is life outside Unz Central – for all of us.

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  46. @Daniel Chieh
    Rabbits - at least most successful species, which is the European rabbit - have dominant males which are polygyny, and like many mammals, males fight over rights of females. Appeals to nature for equality are one of the dumbest there are.

    In complete agreement with your statement. Rabbits, hippos etc are largely creatures of instinct. They are no agency, free will. Comparisons with humans are completely fallacious.

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  47. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Wally
    Is that supposed to be a rebuttal? LOL.

    As usual, Anon lies.

    And yes, Africa does these things too. Nothing surprising there, they are after all, Africans.


    Just search women stoning, gay execution

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/06/opinions/why-women-stoned-to-death-2015/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5TK2OmTkSQ

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/12/10/iranian-woman-to-be-stoned-to-death-as-rest-world-marks-un-human-rights-day.html

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/06/13/here-are-the-10-countries-where-homosexuality-may-be-punished-by-death-2/?utm_term=.1998f7ec524a

    How do you know this scene isn’t staged? Answer: You don’t.

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  48. Durruti says:

    Verymuchalive

    “Sorry, but I did visit your website ( to verify Old Leftie ). You occasionally mention it in passing.”

    I have no website.

    Kindly provide a link.

    Am a member of Anarchist Collective. Our militants insist we are (morally), not right versus left, but right rather than wrong.

    And we AC have no website.

    I am neither “Old” nor a “Leftie”.

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    Must Have got you mixed up with someone with a similar handle.
    Apologies.
  49. @Durruti
    Israel Shamir:

    Lovely emotional rant. One must read the whole - to understand.

    Women are our other half, and we theirs.

    I specially liked, " Go back to your closets, you poor tormented souls, together with BDSM, paedophiles and other pizza consumers, and stay there."

    And some of the dark history- hidden (by the Jewish/Zionist Mainstream Media - Mis/Education Establishment), "But then, there were Zionist Jews who thought Hitler would be good for the Jews. They tried, and succeeded in running a profitable business with Nazi Germany between 1933 and 1941."

    And there is more ugly history of Zionist crimes; you should reveal them to us when you can.

    I hope your version of Casino Trump will take the stage of history in the coming years. I doubt it; but it would be nice to be wrong.

    Israel Shamir; you are a good egg.

    In America, we must Restore our Republic!

    Yes, “Restore our Republic!” might have been an even better Trump campaign pitch than “Make America Great Again.” (less redolent of TRiUMPhalism (both lost and aspired)

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    Nope - “Restore our Republic!” doesn't have the same intensity as “Make America Great Again!”. It is archaic and people can't relate to it while they understand very clearly what “Make America Great Again!” means. In addition, “Make America Great Again!” has broader appeal because it encompasses more than just the political which is another weakness of “Restore our Republic!”. “Make America Great Again!” isn't just about politics it is about jobs, immigration, trade, crime, international respect, etc. Trumps knows and understands marketing and his slogan proves it.
    , @Durruti
    Agreed:

    "Yes, “Restore our Republic!” might have been an even better Trump campaign pitch than “Make America Great Again.” (less redolent of TRiUMPhalism (both lost and aspired)"

    Check my response to woodNfish's response to you. (#83, or so)
  50. @Che Guava
    Yes, you got your timing wrong. I thought of Wilde, but he wasn't really homosexual, and more a nineteenth-century figure, so got my timing wrong, too.

    I posit Yukio Mishima as the greatest, Burroughs and Genet as equal second.

    I agree with Mishima, who was otherwise a traditionalist, although a very extreme one. Wasn’t he more of a bisexual?

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    more of a bisexual?
     
    That is what our friend Priss said when Mishima came up in a thread last year. There are no hints that he had any affairs with women before his relatively late arranged marriage.

    His semi-autobiographical Confessions of a Mask makes his preference very clear, as do many points in his other works.

    At least two of his male lovers, one very long-term, have stated that is what they were. The very long-term one, now deceased, wrote a book about it. Mishima's widow and sons are very influential with the ruling party, they successfully sued to stop publication. The other I know of is a drag queen, don't watch much TV lately, but was on pretty regularly into the 00s.

    Getting married to have children was what many homosexual men of means did, in my opinion far better than the Elton John-David Furnish (how apt the latter's name) style lies emanating from the west of now. 'Donna has two daddies' etc.

    I don't know about traditionalist, either. He dodged military service by faking illness.

    His final piece of theatre (invading a military base, tying up a general, addressing the troops, being ridiculed, then committing ritual suicide with his top lieutenant) is widely (not universally) considered to have been a double love suicide (much romanticised in Japanese folklore and arts). I believe it was.

    There is a very good video on u-tub, of him debating ultra-left students of the time, I think at Tokyo Uni. (forget which Uni.). His words are very funny and eloquent, he is also wearing a prototypical gay muscle-man outfit.

    I have a few neo-fascist friends (Japanese variety), the leader of them idolizes Mishima, but acknowledges that Mishima was essentially homosexual.

    Post is too long, but must add, the three 'soldiers' in Mishima''s private army who took part in the attack but did not commit suicide are very influential to the habitual ruling party.
  51. @Che Guava
    Yes, you got your timing wrong. I thought of Wilde, but he wasn't really homosexual, and more a nineteenth-century figure, so got my timing wrong, too.

    I posit Yukio Mishima as the greatest, Burroughs and Genet as equal second.

    Interesting. I will try to read some Mishima sometime. I did see a movie about him once, but I doubt it did him justice.

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    Kyle,

    If the movie you saw was Mishmima, a Life in Four Parts, directed by Paul Schraeder, it does do him justice.

    Perhaps it doesn't work so well if you haven't read the books, of the life, and of his silly private army that became a pivot point (not necessarily for the better) due to its symbolism.

    It is a cycle of four, divided into twelve parts. Each has a biographical part, followed by a scene from a novel, followed by a scene from crazy Mishima's last day, the scenes from the novels are beautifully realised, the final scenes where he exhorts the soldiers to join his theatrical rebellion and is ridiculed by them, almost exactly like TV footage from the time.

    Since you saw it long ago, if you watch it again, you may gain appreciation of it.
  52. […] This article was first published at The Unz Review. […]

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  53. Seraphim says:
    @Dianna
    Logos=word=Jesus Christ=regulative principle=rational

    Satan works thru manipulation of the emotions, using the "feminine Arts", ie. poetry, music singing dancing and theater to overcome the rational logical thinking of mankind. Women are highly manipulated thru their emotions. This is why Satan attacked Eve first to get to Adam.

    I believe it was Aristotle who said if you want to keep fighting men suppressed you teach them to become players of musical instruments and merchants, and they will become women instead of men. (I will post the direct quote in another post)


    §3. For it was through Eve that he came in upon Adam, 49 and Adam was enticed because of his inexperience.

    See Testament of Judah Judah was tempted by his own daughter in law and therefore PAWNED the scepter of his rule. It was Judah who sold Joseph into Egyptian bondage.

    And again he came in against Joseph through his master's wife, 50 but Joseph was acquainted with his craftiness and would not afford him a hearing.

    Through a woman he fought with Samson, 51 until he took away his Nazariteship.

    Reuben was the first-born of all his brethren, and through his father's wife, 52 (the adversary) cast a blemish upon him.

    Aaron was the great high-priest of the house of Israel, and through Miriam 53 his sister he envied Moses.
    See Miriam whose name means bitter and rebellious. She was probably a prophetess of Hathor.
    Moses was sent to deliver the people from Egypt, and took with him the woman who advised him to shameful acts, 54 and the Lord met with Moses, and desired to slay him, till he sent back his wife to Midian.

    David was victorious in all his battles, yet through means of a daughter of Eve 55 there was found a blemish in him.

    "Before the establishment of the kingdom under Saul, it was the women who, as in every young civilization, played a major part in the performance of music. Such figures as Miriam, Deborah, Jephthah's daughter, and the women hailing the young hero David have become almost archetypes of female musicians.

    "Characteristic of all these cases is the familiar picture of a female chorus, dancing and singing, accompanied by frenzied drum-beating.
    This is the scene known to the entire Near East, and not
    "even the severe rule of Islam could wholly suppress this age-old practice." (Int Dict of the Bible, Music, p. 457).

    Amnon was beautiful and fair in countenance, yet (the adversary) took him captive by desire for his sister, 56 and Absalom slew him on account of the humbling of Tamar.

    Solomon was greater than all the kings of the earth, yet in the days of his old age his wives led his heart astray. 57

    "Women and girls from the different ranks of society were proud to enter the service of the gods as singers and musicians. The understanding of this service was universal: these singers constituted the 'harem of the gods'." (Music & Worship in Pagan and Christian Antiquity )

    But when Athaliah the mother of Ahaziah saw that her son was dead, she arose and destroyed all the seed royal of the house of Judah (Grandchildren). 2 Chronicles 22:10
    She missed one grandson and when they proclaimed him King they effectively sounded the musical censure against her and killed her.

    Through Jezebel, daughter of Ethbaal, the wickedness of Ahab was increased, 58 and he became altogether a heathen.

    Furthermore, the adversary tempted Job through his children and his possessions, 59 and when he could not prevail over him, he went and brought against him his armour, and he came, bringing with him a daughter of Eve, who had caused Adam to sink, and through her mouth he said to Job, her righteous husband:-Curse God. 60 But Job rejected her counsel.

    King Asa also conquered the Accursed-of-life, when he wished to come in against him, through his mother. 61 For Asa knew his craftiness and removed his mother from her high estate, and cut in pieces her idol and cast it down.

    John was greater than all the prophets, yet Herod slew him because of the dancing of a daughter of Eve. 62

    Haman was wealthy and third in honour from the King, yet his wife counselled him to destroy the Jews. 63

    Zimri was head of the tribe of Simeon, yet Cozbi, daughter of the chiefs of Midian, overthrew him, and because of one woman twenty-four thousand of Israel fell in one day. 64

    H3576 kâzab kaw-zab' A primitive root; to lie (that is, deceive), literally or figuratively:—fail, (be found a, make a) liar, lie, lying, be in vain
    H2174 zimrıy zim-ree' From H2167 ; musical; Zimri, the name of five Israelites, and of an Arabian tribe:—Zimri.
    H2167 zâmar zaw-mar' A primitive root (perhaps identical with H2168 through the idea of striking with the fingers); properly to touch the strings or parts of a musical instrument, that is, play upon it; to make music, accompanied by the voice; hence to celebrate in song and music:—give praise, sing forth praises, psalms.

    All was known well before the ‘Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs”, which are late apocryphal texts. The story of the continuous work of Satan among humans after their fall is contained in the Book of Genesis:
    “AND it came to pass when men began to be numerous upon the earth, and daughters were born to them, 2 that the sons of God having seen the daughters of men that they were beautiful, took to themselves wives of all whom they chose. 3 And the Lord God said, My Spirit shall certainly not remain among these men for ever, because they are flesh, but their days shall be an hundred and twenty years. 4 Now the giants were upon the earth in those days; and after that when the sons of God were wont to go in to the daughters of men, they bore [children to them, those were the giants of old, the men of renown. 5 And the Lord God, having seen that the wicked actions of men were multiplied upon the earth, and that every one in his heart was intently brooding over evil continually, 6 then God laid it to heart that he had made man upon the earth, and he pondered [it] deeply. 7 And God said, I will blot out man whom I have made from the face of the earth, even man with cattle, and reptiles with flying creatures of the sky, for I am grieved that I have made them. 8 But Noe found grace before the Lord God….

    Who the ‘sons of God’ were, we learn more from the Book of Enoch (which is a ‘semi-canonical’ Scripture), they were not ‘angels’ but humans:
    “The names of the leaders [the Watchers] are given as “Samyaza (Shemyazaz), their leader, Araqiel, Râmêêl, Kokabiel, Tamiel, Ramiel, Dânêl, Chazaqiel, Baraqiel, Asael, Armaros, Batariel, Bezaliel, Ananiel, Zaqiel, Shamsiel, Satariel, Turiel, Yomiel, Sariel”

    “And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three hundred ells:Who consumed all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, the giants turned against them and devoured mankind. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish, and to devour one another’s flesh, and drink the blood…
    And Azâzêl taught men to make swords, and knives, and shields, and breastplates, and made known to them the metals of the earth and the art of working them, and bracelets, and ornaments, and the use of antimony, and the beautifying of the eyelids, and all kinds of costly stones, and all colouring tinctures. And there arose much godlessness, and they committed fornication, and they were led astray, and became corrupt in all their ways. Semjâzâ taught enchantments, and root-cuttings, Armârôs the resolving of enchantments, Barâqîjâl, taught astrology, Kôkabêl the constellations, Ezêqêêl the knowledge of the clouds, Araqiêl the signs of the earth, Shamsiêl the signs of the sun, and Sariêl the course of the moon…
    [Michael, Uriel, Raphael, and Gabriel appeal to God to judge the inhabitants of the world and the fallen angels. Uriel is then sent by God to tell Noah of the coming cataclysm and what he needs to do].
    “Then said the Most High, the Holy and Great One spoke, and sent Uriel to the son of Lamech, and said to him: Go to Noah and tell him in my name “Hide thyself!” and reveal to him the end that is approaching: that the whole earth will be destroyed, and a deluge is about to come upon the whole earth, and will destroy all that is on it. And now instruct him that he may escape and his seed may be preserved for all the generations of the world….

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    I had never read any of those writings until recently. Many of the Jewish writings have valuable information to those who are searching for truth. Have you read the ode's of Soloman? The same techniques are used in each generation, even back to the Sumerian tablets. Always The oppressors over the oppressed, who take away the key to knowledge. The whole world is under the spell of the evil one. The spirit of Christ told us that women and children would rule over us.


    Isaiah 3:4-5 (KJV)
    And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them. [5] And the people shall be oppressed, every one by another, and every one by his neighbour: the child shall behave himself proudly against the ancient, and the base against the honourable.

    Acts 2:38-40 (KJV)
    Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. [39] For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. [40] And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
  54. Agent76 says:

    March 12th, 2015 Fascism: Humanity’s Scourge

    It gave us Hitler and Mussolini. Today it’s headquartered in Washington – with global client states run by puppets serving US interests. Subservient Western countries recklessly support America’s imperial agenda. Fascist regimes combine perpetual wars with corporate empowerment, massive corruption and police state harshness.

    http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voices.php/2015/03/12/fascism-humanity-s-scourge

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    March 12th, 2015 Fascism: Humanity’s Scourge

    It gave us Hitler and Mussolini.
     
    and the plantation nigger obama and the democratic party, aka the communist party, the party of slavery, the KKK, a continuous history of racism, hate, intolerance, authoritarianism, war and fascism.
  55. woodNfish says:
    @joe webb
    reminds me of Deadwood, the great HBO series (2003-5) on Deadwood, S. Dakota and its goldrush ca. 1875.

    It is 10 times better than Sopranos and so on, although I am generally ignorant of other series, thank god. Get it and watch it...amazing, Shakespearean, including diction. Our contemporary cuss words put me off , but googling it, they claimed that the 19th C. cussing does not match our own for emotional meaning.

    Swearengen, the most interesting character in the series, whorehouse owner, refers to the ladies as "loopy cunts" which for some reason gets me laughing every time. Kind of like pussies flying around in loops.

    David Milch, jew, invented the show and he is a genius, even though his jewishness prevents him from presenting a jew and a couple of black characters realistically. .

    "Cunt" means female and who cares, sorta, like Trump's grabbing. "Loopy" is important cuz, the gals are over-endowed by biology with Emotion. I have read that white women generally have a five point deficit compared to white men, in intelligence. But any particular woman can be quite bright, but she too is betrayed by her large Emotional brain. Hence 'loopy.' Even the admirable gals in the show have their loopiness. Pay attention to the diction. Use your subtitles...you cannot let a word go by unnoted.

    Our gals are making slow but steady progress despite rioting pussies. 53% of them voted for T. I have read. When their children are threatened , the various subversions fly out the window.
    Stand by Your Man is Becoming....the loopy cunts are losing. Still, the childless ladies are without Guidance, both from Men, and from their own biology.

    JW

    Joe,

    I should have clarified my comment, and meant to, but by the time I was going to do it, I couldn’t edit it any longer. What I should have written is, “Because they know many women are dumbass commie cunts.”

    You are right, not all women are morns. Madam Curie comes to mind as one of the great scientists who happened to be female., and my wife is extremely smart, (and not just because she married me). I even know some democrat women who are smart, but the vote stupid. That is why I wrote “many” and not all. Intelligence like most things in life is a bell curve.

    I must say one thing though, whores and prostitutes are not “ladies”. A lady would never be either one, and she wouldn’t be seen with the commie cunts who marched on Sunday. Ashley Judd is no lady, and she is a whore as are most the feminazi leaders who aren’t rug munching perverts.

    Mostly though they are a very sad sight – dumb and duped by the Left with nothing to proclaim except the desire to murder their babies, be whores and be taken advantage of. There is a reason the grubers are called “useful tools.”

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    You left out the high percentage of dried up old menopausal crones and obvious militant butch rug munchers. Hell, in one of the clips I think I spotted my ex-wife in a pink knit cap and full PMS attack mode...all red in the face and primal screaming away. Lucky break the sound happened to be turned off.....
  56. woodNfish says:
    @Captain Cook
    Yes, "Restore our Republic!" might have been an even better Trump campaign pitch than "Make America Great Again." (less redolent of TRiUMPhalism (both lost and aspired)

    Nope – “Restore our Republic!” doesn’t have the same intensity as “Make America Great Again!”. It is archaic and people can’t relate to it while they understand very clearly what “Make America Great Again!” means. In addition, “Make America Great Again!” has broader appeal because it encompasses more than just the political which is another weakness of “Restore our Republic!”. “Make America Great Again!” isn’t just about politics it is about jobs, immigration, trade, crime, international respect, etc. Trumps knows and understands marketing and his slogan proves it.

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    "Trumps knows and understands marketing and his slogan proves it."

    The (your), magic words are "marketing" and "slogan."

    In many ways, I consider America "Great" now. With the understood truths: (however),

    America is, at the same time:

    Not a Sovereign Nation.

    Not a functioning Democratic Republic! (not since November 22, 1963).

    Restoring our Beloved and Historic Republic - is not "marketing" or a "slogan." It is a moral imperative, required for the survival of our nation (and its people), and the happy and prosperous survival of humanity.

    Durruti - alias, Peter J. Antonsen
  57. woodNfish says:
    @Agent76
    March 12th, 2015 Fascism: Humanity's Scourge

    It gave us Hitler and Mussolini. Today it's headquartered in Washington - with global client states run by puppets serving US interests. Subservient Western countries recklessly support America’s imperial agenda. Fascist regimes combine perpetual wars with corporate empowerment, massive corruption and police state harshness.

    http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voices.php/2015/03/12/fascism-humanity-s-scourge

    March 12th, 2015 Fascism: Humanity’s Scourge

    It gave us Hitler and Mussolini.

    and the plantation nigger obama and the democratic party, aka the communist party, the party of slavery, the KKK, a continuous history of racism, hate, intolerance, authoritarianism, war and fascism.

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    Are you high on drugs? The Democratic Party is about as mainstream and corporatist as you can get.
  58. amused says:
    @Robert Magill

    Men love women, we are made that way. We love their beautiful bodies and their compassionate souls, their high spirit and their subtle mind. They are our lovers, friends, comrades
     
    .

    We love them so much we have held them captive since the Late Bronze Age. Any harmony that exists between the sexes is the equivalent of a universal "Stockholm Syndrome" in which the captives learn of necessity to love their oppressors.

    Rather than Shamir's take on the rise of 'dark' feminine forces consider what has happened as the call of outraged women for true equality for once. Shamir thinks very little of rad-fems but I look at it quite differently. They want a larger slice of the pie; I want the ladies to have one half the pie and the recipe.

    Ours is the only species where one half, an entire gender, is subordinate to the other. Wouldn't work with voles, or hippos or rabbits. Why do we think it works for us? Only the failure to reach critical mass in planet devastation and human folly has postponed the inevitable revenge of nature on our sorry lot.

    http://robertmagill.wordpress.com


    “Ours is the only species where one half, an entire gender, is subordinate to the other”
    You poor ignorant fellow, you have never had the chance to look at animals in nature, perhaps not even in a zoo. If you had you would have seen the maulings that lionesses get from lions; you would have seen female monkeys being savaged by male monkeys; or you might have observed the docility of female dogs in the presence of males. Have you been wearing pussy hats since birth? Proud, normal males cherish their females (wives, girl friends, sisters). They don’t and have not “hold them captive since the bronze age”. I am all for equal rights for the ladies, but I am not sure that wearing pussy hats is going to advance their cause.

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  59. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @woodNfish

    March 12th, 2015 Fascism: Humanity’s Scourge

    It gave us Hitler and Mussolini.
     
    and the plantation nigger obama and the democratic party, aka the communist party, the party of slavery, the KKK, a continuous history of racism, hate, intolerance, authoritarianism, war and fascism.

    Are you high on drugs? The Democratic Party is about as mainstream and corporatist as you can get.

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    Mainstream? Not any more, but they are fascists as you say.
  60. @SolontoCroesus
    Dr. Michael Jones, is that you??

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ojx8-oNGnMU

    Logos ascendant.
    Hooray.

    And how could anyone prefer the pink-hatted frump-a-dumps to the elegance of the Trump women.
    Look out O' Jackie's back in town.


    btw I think those pink hats are horns not kitten's ears -- the stupid women are too ignorant to recognize how thoroughly they've been made fools of, and used to make fools of their men, proving Mario64's point, that "the secret of all domination: to make the dominated participate to their own domination" http://www.unz.com/article/karl-roves-prophecy/ ---

    "The word cuckold derives from the cuckoo bird, alluding to its habit of laying its eggs in other birds' nests.[2][3] The association is common in medieval folklore, literature, and iconography. . . .

    In Western traditions, cuckolds have sometimes been described as "wearing the horns of a cuckold" or just "wearing the horns." This is an allusion to the mating habits of stags, who forfeit their mates when they are defeated by another male.[5]
    ~ In Italy (especially in Southern Italy, where it is a major personal offence), the insult is often accompanied by the sign of the horns.
    ~ In French, the term is porter des cornes, which is used by Molière to describe someone whose consort has been unfaithful.
    ~ In German, the term is "jemandem Hörner aufsetzen", or "Hörner tragen", the husband is "der gehörnte Ehemann".
    # Rabelais wrote the Tiers Livers of Gargantua and Pantagruel in 1546, by which time the symbol of the horns was "so well-known and over-used that the author could barely avoid making reference to it."[6]
    # Molière's L'École des femmes (1662) is the story of a man who mocks cuckolds and becomes one at the end.
    # In Geoffrey Chaucer's Canterbury Tales (c. 1372–77), the "The Miller's Tale" is a story that humorously examines the life of a cuckold.
    # In Chinese usage, an altogether different allusion is used, when the cuckold (or wittol) is said to be "戴綠帽子" (wearing the green hat), [green, complement to pink] which derives from the sumptuary laws used in China from the 13th to the 18th centuries which required the males in households with prostitutes to wrap their heads in a green scarf (or later a hat). * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuckold
     
    * Dostoevsky's prostitute, Sonia, holds a yellow ticket.

    Indeed Dr Mike Jones has been on my mind when I referred to Logos! Great guy, Mike. We travelled together and lectured Estonians, some years ago.

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  61. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Morality is about choosing right over wrong.

    But Political Morality is about RIGHTEOUSNESS than merely right-and-wrong.

    From Righteousness comes the Moral Will to Power. It is the righteous that accuses and attacks. The righteous feel justified and empowered by God, history, or higher principles.
    So, the side that feels more righteous has the advantage.

    In any political struggle, the side that wishes to win must be righteous. Being right isn’t good enough. It must accuse and attack as well as defend and preserve.

    Even the weaker side will eventually triumph in the political struggle if it has the power of righteousness. Likewise, no matter how powerful a group may be, it will lose if it only goes for moral defense and has no ammo for moral offense.
    Consider Mike Tyson in the ring with a mediocre boxer. If Tyson only does defense, he will lose eventually. He will cover up and try to block the punches, but he will never throw one. So, even though the mediocre boxer isn’t very tough, he will do all the punching, and eventually the punches will wear Tyson down.
    If Soviet Union in WWII only did defense but never went on the offense, it would have lost to Germany. The thing is Soviets not only defended the motherland but fought back. Same with US and Japan in WWII. US didn’t just play defense. It went on the offense. Japan was much weaker, but if it had monopoly on offense whereas US could only do defense, then Japan would have prevailed in the Pacific.

    Because of holy trinity of PC — ‘racism’ that says we can’t criticize blacks, ‘antisemitism’ that says we can’ t scrutinize Jews, and ‘homophobia’ that says you’re clinically sick in the head if you don’t revere homos — , the American Right has been on the moral defensive. And men are on the moral defense against feminism because the Narrative says anything critical of women — at least when mouthed by white men — is ‘anti-women’ and ‘misogynist’. (Feminism is nuts. Every job taken by women means one less job for men, and that means more men loses market value in marriage prospect. They are robbed not only of work but of family and life. Women’s entry into the work force has increased women’s criteria for prospective marriage mates, but if women take jobs from men, the market value of many men have sunken. Also, women’s careerism ended up concentrating great wealth in power couples. If a man is a lawyer, he alone can afford to raise a family. He doesn’t need a wife with a high-paying job. If he marries a woman who is a lawyer, it means incomes that could have afford two families — if men had both jobs — are now being concentrated in one family, likely with few kids if any. Also, lots of career women make money just to blow it all on themselves. So, income that could have allowed a man to take care of a family is wasted on female hedonistic vanity of idiots who emulate Sex and the City. Imagine there are two slots for lawyer position. Suppose there are four people, two men and two women. If two men take the jobs, each can marry a woman and have family, especially since men will marry women without jobs. But if a man and a woman get the jobs, they will likely marry one another as a power couple. That means those two will hog all the income. As for the guy who doesn’t get the job? He has no market value and poor chances of finding a marriage mate; as for the woman who didn’t marry the lawyer, she doesn’t want to marry the man without a high-paying job. End result is the power couple hog everything whereas the other guy and other woman totally lose out. Now, consider the saner game theory: If two men get the lawyer jobs, each can marry a woman, and his income can be shared with wife and family. But if a man and a woman get the jobs, they marry and hog all the wealth in that one family while the other guy has nothing. Since he has nothing, the other woman won’t marry him, and both end up with nothing. It is the COMING APART of Charles Murray’s study. Putting family first calls for bio-socialism. It would configure the economy for the good of both men and women based on their sexual differences and on what is most beneficial for all members. Also, it acknowledges the family as the core meaning and fulfillment of life. Work exists to serve life. But in our materialist-individualist order that is anti-organic and anti-life — the ‘advanced world’ cannot even sustain birthrates — careerism is placed on the pedestal as the highest purpose in life because wage means the freedom to indulge one’s fleeting pleasures like in SEX AND THE CITY, which leads to sorrow and the pity for both sexes in the long run.)

    Anyway, the righteous side will always win in the Political Struggle. Even if it it is at a great disadvantage in terms of power, it will gain and gain and continue to gain and gain because it has the will to accuse and attack. In contrast, the side that is only on defense will lose in the end no matter how big and powerful it is. It can cover up but has no will to attack. A strong warrior with only a shield will eventually lose to the weaker man with a sword. Eventually, the battering of the sword will break the shield and slay the big warrior.

    This is why American Conservatism has been losing and losing. It has lost the force of righteousness. To be sure, much of this is determined by who controls the media that has the power to shame some and sanctify others. Even if the Right were to turn righteous, the GLOB media may not give it any hearing.
    American Conservatism agreed to the premise of Liberalism’s condemnation of ‘racism’ and ‘antisemitism’ as the greatest evils. It agreed that wonderful blacks were holy victims of White Evil and that innocent Jews had been wronged by nasty Christians for too long.
    Now, the problem was not in acknowledging the real suffering of blacks and Jews, which is irrefutable. The problem was in sacralizing all of blackness and all of Jewishness to the point where blacks and Jews can never do any wrong. (After all, America is willing to acknowledge that many innocent Germans and Japanese died in WWII. America is willing to admit that it committed atrocities in Vietnam that killed innocent people. But those are limited to specific historical events or moments; they are not invoked to portray Germans, Japanese, or Vietnamese as Eternal Holy Victims. Mylai is restricted to Mylai, not to all Vietnamese. Hiroshima is about Japanese killed in Hiroshima, not about Japanese all over the world.) And with such holy aura and media power, Jews could also push stuff like homomania. If Jews hadn’t been behind the homo agenda, the Right would have been more justified in its resistance. But opposing it meant indirectly opposing the holy Jews. Jews also pushed Diversity, and that meant whites couldn’t say NO to the new template of America as ‘nation of immigrants’ from all over the world. Since holy and righteous Jews demand it, whites must relent and say Yes.

    Given the Official Consensus(that says ‘racism’ and ‘antisemitism’ are worst evils ever), American Conservatism has sought to defend itself in two ways.
    One is with libertarian argument that past discrimination is no more, therefore we need to focus on individual liberty without any consideration of race, sex, identity, etc. This is a kind of moral argument, but it is bland and generic. It’s like someone saying All Lives Matter in response to those who say Black Lives Matter. When a large concrete slab meets a sledgehammer, the latter will win. Sledgehammer concentrates its power in the area it strikes whereas a concrete slab, big as it is, is evenly distributed in power.
    The other argument by the American Right has been ‘Democrats are the real racists’. So, we hear that the KKK were Democrats and that Great Society is to blame for the ‘new plantation’ politics of Detroit. But trying to defeat PC by rules of PC is self-defeating. It doesn’t address the flawed problems of the premise itself. It’s like trying to defeat communists by arguing that ‘communists are the real anti-egalitarians’.

    Political Morality is a strange combination of tribalism and universalism.
    If your side is ONLY tribal, then it comes across as petty and narrow-minded. Your morality would amount to little more than ‘my country right or wrong’, ‘support the troops’, or ‘us vs them’. It’d be the ‘morality’ of the wolf pack or street gang or hatcoys vs mcfields. It could be angry and violent but hardly righteous for it is too primal and brutish.

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    But MERE universalism also has problems. In trying to embrace, represent, serve, love, and seek approval of ALL humanity, the power becomes diffuse, bland, anemic, diluted, and without focus.
    Now, hiigher morality is inherently universal for it seeks higher justice above ‘us and them’. For example, higher morality says that is someone on your side murdered someone on the other side, you-as-moral-person should side with the victim of the other side than stick with your own side. You shouldn’t side with the murderer on your side simply because he is one of your own. There is great merit to this, but when Political Morality operates PURELY in this way, it becomes difficult to form a sense of identity, unity, and righteousness. After all, if your group must always think in terms of serving, representing, and being fair to all humanity, you can’t fixate on anything that boosts YOUR people, territory, and culture. If you must always think of feeding all of humanity, you can’t focus on feeding your own family.

    So, Political Morality works on a fusion of tribalism and universalism. You have to maintain a strong sense of tribal identity & unity but also invoke universal principles to justify the power of YOUR own tribe, especially as one having been oppressed, wronged, endangered, or threatened by OTHER tribes. Without the invocation of universality, it will simply be a case of tribe vs tribe. But with universalist argument, you can say the other tribe violated the ‘human rights’ of your tribe. That gives your side a sense of righteousness, a moral advantage, the will to accuse and attack. Meanwhile, the other tribe, under universal principles, is made to atone or only defend itself without counter-accusing-and-attacking.
    Now, someone could argue that, because tribalism gets in the way of universalism, all sides should surrender tribalism: both the side that did wrong and the side that was wronged should scrap their tribalism since all forms of tribalism serve as barrier to utopian universalism. And early communists did try to achieve this by ridding the world of national distinctions… but it just became to difficult to rule everyone as ‘worker’, a mere material identity without roots and historical meaning… which is why communism settled for national communisms.

    Anyway, if a principled universalist were to call for total universalism that eradicates all notion of tribalism, what might the morally righteous tribe say? Will it go along? If it is smart, the chances are that the righteous tribe with the moral advantage will understand that total universalism will lead to loss of their special weapon of moral advantage.
    Consider Jews and blacks. If Jews were indeed to adhere to total universalism, they will have to give up the holocaust narrative and Zionist narrative(as compensation for holocaust) and let go of their moral advantage over Western goyim. Also, Jews will have to surrender their rich and meaningful identity rooted in history and culture if they were to accept total universalism.
    Jews complain that Nationalism(by which they mean ‘gentile nationalism’) can be hostile to Jews, but it’s a paradoxical argument. What Jews really mean is that gentile nationalism is hostile to Jewish nationalism because, after all, the very notion of Jewish Identity is ‘nationalist’. Jewishness has been a national idea, even when Jews were without a geographical nation. It is about a people united by blood, history, and myth. Even without a nation with physical borders, the very idea of Jewishness created borders inside the Jewish mind in terms of who is Jewish and who is goy, who is clean & chosen AND who is soiled & un-chosen. So, when Jews complain that nationalism can be hostile to Jews, they really mean that gentile nationalism can be hostile to Jewish nationalism. If Jews hate nationalism and just want to join with bigger humanity, all they have to do is give up Jewishness(a ‘nationalism’ with ancient roots, or the longest nationalism) and join with gentiles and become ‘new gentiles’. After all, if there are 10 Jews and 1000 Hungarians, doesn’t it make more sense for Jews to give up their Jewish nationalism and just become Hungarians than for Hungarians to give up their nationalism so that Jews can strengthen their own nationalism?
    Indeed, the Jewish argument against nationalism is disingenuous because its end game is not to end all nationalisms. If Jews wanted to eradicate all tribal identities, that of Jews included, then they would at least be principled and intellectually-morally consistent. But Jews attack gentile patriotism/nationalism on the premise that it may threaten tribal Jewish interests; Jews totally overlook the fact that the very idea of Jewishness is a form of ethnic patriotism, indeed the oldest kind.
    If indeed Jews accept all humans as equal and just want to get along with everyone on the basis of universalism, the fastest and easiest way would be get rid of AIPAC and all Jewish organizations and only think and work in terms of common humanity. Indeed, abandon the very notion of Jewishness, which should be abandoned as ‘atavistic’ and ‘irrational’. But Jews push ‘common humanity’ on white gentiles to weaken white gentile power, all the while boosting their own Jewish Ethnic Power. This is the great contradiction of Jewish Power. But it is also the source of Jewish Power because it combines tribalism with universalism, the formula that makes for Political Morality of Righteousness.

    Jews argue that since Jews were targeted and oppressed as a tribe, they must be protected as a tribe. They must be offered equality under rule of law, BUT that is not enough.
    If Jews are only offered equality under the law, it means they have no moral advantage. To have advantage, Jews must press the case that historical tragedy commands recompense and reparations for Jews. Not only for Jews who lived in Europe through WWII but their children and their children’s children and children’s children’s children. Even American Jews whose ancestors weren’t in Europe during WWII must share in this special treatment by association. Because the Jewish tribe was denied universal protection in the past, universal protection isn’t enough today. Jews must have special recognition for their tribe. They must be ‘more equal than others’, even if it means neglecting the tragic narrative of Palestinians; Jews were SO WRONGED by white gentiles that white gentiles must even look the other way as Zionists crush Palestinians.

    This is how Jews combine universalism and tribalism to maintain their moral righteousness. If the lesson of WWII is that tribalism is dangerous and bad, then both white gentiles and Jews should give up their ‘tribal’ identities and join with Common Humanity. Such consensus would mean no tribal power for BOTH gentiles and Jews. The only way Jews can use morality as a weapon is by invoking universalism to justify special treatment for the Jewish Tribe who’d been historically wronged. That way, the Whole World owes the Jews. Universalism serving Tribalism.

    And we see the same kind of Political Morality among blacks. It is true that blacks had been legally and socially disadvantaged in America, to say the least. So, blacks finally got equality under the law with the Civil Rights Movement. And blacks did this by invoking universalism: that a person must be judged by content of his character than color of his skin. But if blacks ONLY pushed such universalism, their Political Moral advantage would soon dissipate. As equal citizens under the law, they would lose the justification to press for demands as a groups. They could only compete as free individuals. When blacks as a group were denied equality, they had the moral justification to act as a group since blacks weren’t treated as individuals but as part of a people denied equality as a group. But once such restrictions are lifted, there is no reason for blacks to think tribally and unite politically as a group. Under the logic of universalism, a group may work tribally only when it is it is treated as a oppressed tribe. Oppression along tribal grounds means that even individuals of the tribe who reject the tribe will still be treated as accursed members of the tribe. So, prior to Civil Rights, even blacks who rejected black identity were still regarded as blacks and denied certain opportunities and services. So, that FORCED blacks to act tribally. But with freedom and equality under the law, universalist logic would suggest that there is no longer any justification for group action.

    In a free and equal social order, blacks would have to compete and be treated on the basis of individual merit. In order for blacks to keep the moral advantage, they must invoke history and remind white America over and over that the white tribe had oppressed the black tribe and THAT accounts for the problems blacks face today(and tomorrow). Since blacks experienced oppression as a tribe, blacks-as-a-tribe must seek justice as a tribe. So, even when equality was bestowed upon blacks, blacks mustn’t give up their tribal sense since their history if one of tribal tribulation. It’s like MLK yammered about universal principles but also tongue-lashed the white community with talk of how the black man deserved special attention and treatment from the white man because of history.
    If blacks had gone totally libertarian and championed the principle of individual liberty(along libertarian lines), they would have lost the power of Righteousness as a group. Blacks-as-libertarians would become atomized individuals pursuing individual success based on content of character and measure of ability than color of the skin. This was especially problematic since, due to lower IQ and wilder nature, blacks were bound to succeed less in academia and business than other groups.
    Also, blacks find non-blacks too tame, lame, bland, & boring; therefore, blacks want to maintain their unique blackness than become like everyone else. They see themselves as the badass race, and it is the rest of humanity that should try to live up to superior black standards than for blacks to lower themselves to become like white-bread ‘honkeys’ or dull Mexicans or Asians. And global culture seems to agree with this because so many young ones of all color try to imitate rappers and talk ‘black’. And more and more non-black women wanna have mulatto-black kids while non-black boys of all color worship NBA stars and rappers. Because of black success in funky music/sports and the Western lionization of King, Mandela, Oprah, and Obama — and Harriet Tubman and Hidden Figure negresses — as the supreme sacred icons, the global community has come to revere the Magic Negro as the Neo-Pharaoh, not least because Amerika, via Wall Street, Hollywood, Sports, & Entertainment, has become the template for World Culture.
    Because blacks dominate the most exciting and thrilling entertainments like sports & music AND because black Africans live in the poorest part of the world, blacks bask in both servile worship from non-blacks AND gushy compassion from non-blacks. Blacks are seen as both awesomely masterful and pitiably powerless. “Save the poor Negro and let’s worship him as god.” Negro has become black jesus. After all, Jesus is both the object of pity because He got whupped & killed and because He rose to Heaven & revealed Himself to be the Son of God and even God Himself. This sacralization of the Negro will be the undoing of civilization because if we swipe away all such ‘pontificationary’ myth, most Negroes are punks like Al Sharpton and Kanye West. We live in a dumb age when so many people look up to hustlers like Obama and pigs like Oprah as some neo-spiritual icons.

    Now, what about white people? How must they fight their fight?
    For starters, they too must combine universalism with tribalism. And the best argument is for universal nationalism, aka “zionism for every people”. Every nation, especially an organic one with deep roots(like nations of Europe), has a right to protect its borders, preserve its ethnos, and maintain its culture & historical narrative, JUST LIKE Israel that maintains itself as a Jewish State. This means Hungary for Hungarians just like Israel for Jews. It also means West Bank for Palestinians since Palestinians need a nation for their own too. As for Israel as the Jewish state, and it’d be better if Jews did a population swap by sending all Arabs in Israel to West Bank in exchange for all Jews in West Bank.

    Globalism is the destruction of all nations, cultures, and histories. Global elites don’t care about their own nations being overrun by foreigners since they, as cosmopolitan power-elites, feel more connected to the Global City than to nation, ethnos, and history. They are digitalized globo-citizens. Also, since they got power and privilege, their good life doesn’t depend on existence of nations. Even if UK is overrun by Africans and Pakistanis, the elites of British society can travel around and live well anywhere: Berlin, Paris, Hong Kong, Singapore, Dubai, Rome, Rio, etc. As long as they have the ticket of admission to the global-hubs around the world, they got it made for themselves. Even if the US is no longer white-majority, the likes of the Clintons and Bidens can enjoy privilege and goodies all over the world, hopping from one globo-capital to another.

    Globalism allows both elite intervention and mass invasion of every nation. So the native peoples become invaded by foreign masses, but native elites, as the new globalist elites, move from nation to nation and rub shoulders with globo-elites anywhere. It will lead to the Latin-Americanizaiton of the world. (Latin America is proof Diversity is a mess. Its white elites want to move to America and Europe because they are tired of all the crime and poverty associated with blacks, mestizos, and Indians. But then, it’s non-whites want to move to America since they are tired of the corrupt and venal ways of the Conquistador Hispanic elites. Diversity led to bad elites and bad masses. No unity.)
    White patriots(unlike cucked parrots) must resist globalism and call for universal nationalism as the basis for sound internationalism. Globalism is such a monstrosity that it isn’t difficult to gain moral righteousness as a universal-nationalist who is for nationalism for all peoples. Universal nationalism respects the borders, cultures, interests, and sovereignty of all nations. Globalism seeks to break down all borders and flood all nations with the same GLOB stew of Hollywood culture that inspired millions of women to wear ‘pussy hats’.

    Also, nationalism(tribalism) can be fused with universalism via internationalism. Globalists try to associate nationalism with nasty-sounding ‘isolationism’, but in truth, nationalists do believe in international trade and cooperation with other nations, except on the basis of mutual respect of each other’s borders, histories, and ethnos.
    Nationalism is fine with sane universalism. It opposes radical utopian universalism that calls for one faith, one ideology, and/or one way for everyone.
    All nations believe in trade since only a handful of nations are big enough and resource-rich enough to be self-sufficient. Germany can build machines but is poor in oil and gas. Saudi Arabia has lots of oil but is deficient in producing food and machines. So, they trade. But that doesn’t mean Germans have a right to demographically invade Saudi Arabia or impose its ‘western values’ on a Muslim nation. But then, Muslim nations have no right to demographically invade Europe, and they shouldn’t be demanding Sharia law in the West. So nationalism is the foundation for sound internationalism, whereas globalism means demographic imperialism, elite betrayal, and globalist US-warmongering all over the world.

    White Patriots can also gain Moral Righteousness vis-a-vis blacks. By constructing the new and proper meaning of Race-ism — meaning races do exist and racial differences are real — , whites can argue that they are the ones who need special consideration and protection from stronger, more aggressive, meaner, and wilder blacks. White patriots must argue that privileged white & Jewish urban ‘liberals’, despite their PC rhetoric, do practice race-ism in what they actually do. Consider the Wall Around Hyde Park.

    http://uchicagogate.com/2014/06/02/a-wall-around-hyde-park/

    Hyde Park is a rich and safe area with a high white and Jewish population. Why is it so white and safe? Because high property values and extra police protection AGAINST STRONGER AND MORE AGGRESSIVE BLACKS. So, even though the community is filled with self-righteous ‘liberal’ Jews and ‘progressive’ whites with snotty attitudes, their safety and privilege are made possible through race-ist policies. ‘Race-ism’ doesn’t mean nasty hatred of other races just to be nasty and bigoted. That’s how ‘racism’ has been defined forever. Race-ism means awareness of race and racial differences and the behavior resulting from such awareness. From the evidence of what white/Jewish Liberals really DO, they are totally race-ist since their actions and favored policies seek Safe Spaces away from blacks. And why? Because despite all their pompous rhetoric, even Jews and white ‘progressives’ know that blacks are more muscular, more aggressive, and wilder. Race-ism is truth. I judge people by what they DO and don’t care whatever they SAY. 90% of what people say in our PC-infested age is bullshi*.

    Well, if gentrification and safe-white-spaces are good enough for Jews and urban white ‘progressives’, then it should be good for ALL whites. White patriots need to call for Universal Safe Spaces for all whites. Why should only rich and affluent Jews and whites have safety and security from black thuggery, robbery, rape, and violence? The way the game is rigged, Jews and white ‘progressives’ keep the Nice Negro tokens — like Obama — for themselves while using ‘gentrification’ to expel the dangerous blacks to the suburbs and small towns so that haute urban Liberals can gentrify more of the city into posh neighborhoods. Gentrification is essentially denegrification, or de-negro-fication.
    Since ALL whites, regardless of income, are physically disadvantaged vis-a-vis the stronger, tougher, and more aggressive black race, white patriots need to demand UNIVERSAL GENTRIFICATION for all whites. Every white person, as the member of the inferior weaker race(when it comes to physical power and thuggery), has the right to live without being terrorized by tougher blacks. All white communities should be hype-parked. Why should only rich ‘liberal’ whites & Jews enjoy safety from black violence?
    Now, all races are inferior and superior in their own way. Whites, with generally higher IQ than blacks, are superior in brain power. But blacks, generally with more fast-twitch muscle and stronger bones, are superior in brawn power. Since the stronger race usually beats up on the weaker race —- consider how most interracial violence in the US is black on non-black — , whites are totally morally justified in demanding Safe Space for whites.

    Also, because rational race-ism reveals that blacks are lower in IQ and wilder in temperament, it is reasonable to conclude that their relative failure in school and higher involvement in crime are less due to history than biology. Blacks are more violent and aggressive than other races for the same reason men are more violent and aggressive than women. Men are bigger, stronger, and more aggressive due to hormonal differences.

    Rational Race-ism can finally lift the history-based argument that black problems are entirely the result of white oppression of blacks. After all, how did blacks live in Africa for 100,000 yrs prior to being brought to the New World? They were savages who evolved as spear-chuckers and ass-shakers. The problem of Black America is not the legacy of slavery but reversion to savagery. Even though white power did suppress black freedom and aspirations, it did instill blacks with a culture of family, restraint, religiosity, work ethic, and order. It was the abandonment of those social and moral modes beginning in the 60s that led to explosion of black crime, family breakdown, youth thuggery, and other lunacies.
    Due to black racial nature, blacks had always been more problematic than other races in US history. In the ‘bad old days’, social pressures had kept the lid on black savagery. But when white youths began to emulate black musicians and when counter-culture began to idealize the black radical and the black criminal as ‘cool rebel heroes’,, blacks abandoned all inhibitions and reverted to their savage nature. Black culture today is shameless ‘twerking’ and rappers yapping endlessly about ‘muh dic*’. It’s about tattooed black thugs in sports acting like beasts. It’s about BLM morons acting like street gangstas while pretending to be moral crusaders. Morality has to be based on truth, but BLM is built on lies, especially the black inability to acknowledge that a black person has much more to fear from fellow blacks than from white police officers or ‘white hispanics’ like George Zimmerman.

    And a proper understanding and acceptance of race-ism is also useful in white patriots dealing with Jewish Power. Race-ism teaches us that Ashkenazi Jews have higher IQ, and this accounts for their success in brainy & verbal-intensive areas, just like blacks dominate the brawny areas in sports and street gangsterism because they are naturally tougher and more aggressive. There is a reason why the Italian-American fellers fear the blacks in THE WANDERERS. Blacks will kick their butts.

    According to the prevailing narrative, Jews accidentally came to dominate finance, media, and academia because of gentile discrimination that forbade Jews from planting potatoes. So, it’s all due to culture and accident of history.
    The reality is grounded in biology, and that means Jews will continue to dominate elite institutions/industries — unless they excessively breed with dumb goy bimbos — , and that means Jews with their power need to see themselves as masters, rulers, and elites than as perpetual victims. With power comes accountability. It is lowdown for Jews to keep invoking ‘white privilege’ to pretend that some hick living in a trailer has the Real Power whereas all those rich Jews in gentrified cities are egalitarian comrades of Mexicans, Muslims, and blacks. (Indeed, Jews promoted fancy homos as the main face of ‘progressivism’ precisely because the class issues were making affluent Jews look like a bunch of hypocrites.) Especially given the woeful effects of Jewish globalist influence on Russia in the 90s, it is dangerous to maintain the narrative of Jews as the perennially oppressed tribe in need of special favors, treatment, and protection.

    That the most potent kind of Moral Righteousness is a combination of tribalism and universalism can be see in the disproportionate power of anti-white whites(some of whom are affiliated with violent ‘antifa’ groups) and ultra-pro-Zionist Evangelicals. Why have the anti-white whites and pro-Jewish Evangelical whites been more powerful than white libertarians like Ron Paul who are neither anti-white nor pro-Zionist? Paradoxically, even anti-white whites and pro-Zionist whites practice a politics as combination of tribalism and universalism.

    Libertarianism is purely universalist on basis of individual liberty. In representing the abstract liberties of the individual, it is both too atomized and too all-encompassing to generate Core Group power. It’s either about an individual fixated on his ‘right’ to smoke pot or how all borders must be abolished so everyone can become Abstract-Man like Bryan Caplan.

    In contrast, anti-white whites and pro-Zionist whites are affiliated with an aspect of tribalism. Pro-Zionist whites suppress their own tribal identity, but in serving the Zionist identity they feel an sense of empowerment. It’s like being a squire. You are not the knight, but in serving the knight, you find meaning in life. It’s like the thief in KAGEMUSHA who, upon serving a clan, finds meaning by attachment. It’s like a dog finding meaning by attaching itself to its human master. So, even though pro-Zionist whites suppress their own tribal identity in name of universal brotherhood, their main loyalty is to Jews and Israel. Such focus gives them a stronger meaning of life.

    As for anti-white whites, they too practice a kind of tribalism because their focus of hatred is directed against a particular tribe: white people.
    Anti-white whites — Antiwa’s — are different from white Libertarians in this regard: Whereas white libertarians reject not only whiteness but all racial identities and harbor no special animus toward any group, anti-white whites concentrate their venom and ire on White People as the source of all evil. So, even though they don’t have a functional tribal identity of their own — except for the zealotry of their cause — , their narrow focus of hatred generates emotions of quasi-tribal identity.

    Because libertarians oppose all tribal identities, their ‘hatred’ is diffused universally. In contrast, anti-white whites direct all their hatred on ‘white racists’ and ‘white tribalists’, and such winnowing of hostility creates a powerful us-and-them mentality: “We are good radical whites who reject evil whites at war with those evil whites who cling to their tribalism.” So, paradoxically, their radical anti-white-tribalism turns into a kind of ideological tribalism.

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  62. @Anatoly Karlin
    Great stuff.

    The Jewish masterminds of the virago revolt – George Soros and his fellow billionaire Tom Steyer, who pledged $100 million for the regime change, utilised this time-honoured subterfuge.
     
    Speaking of Soros and FEMEN, he stopped funding them a couple of years back when they decided to open an Israel branch - went off the leash, so to speak.

    That was according to a Facebook post by the group's France department, anyway.

    If that was as it seems, then it is perhaps the crispest demonstration possible that Soros is not some merely deluded billionaire but an actively malevolent enemy of European-American civilization.

    Gay International
     
    Homintern.

    If there is a topic that generated a lot of dislike abroad for the US it was is for pushing the same sex agenda.
     
    The presumptive end of the bizarre "human rights are gay rights and gay rights are human rights" shtick adopted in the past 5 years by the US is yet another good if minor thing to look forwards to with Trump.

    So unless he wants to provide for them just for pleasure of being nice to some Jews, this relationship is not likely to last long, and may end in sorrow.
     
    Trump is related to Jews through family ties (as is Putin, incidentally).

    I have an acquaintance of sorts through my Bay Area cirles to a Jew who was extremely triggered by Trump and literally saw him as the next Hitler. Predictably, he also absolutely hated Russia. He was seriously considering pursuing Polish citizenship through ancestral ties were Trump to win. He wasn't pleased when I pointed out that according to the ADL the US and even Vladimir "Leader of Global White Supremacy ala Hillary" Putin's Russia were both far less anti-Semitic than Poland.

    Homintern! Bravo! And thank you for the Femen Israeli trip story – it fits nicely. As for relation to Jews – this is very very common and means very little. Spaniards used to say limpieza de sangre is found in peasant families only. I doubt it would justify, say, bombing of Iran.
    And regarding Poland: they are very philosemitic. In Krakow, there is a Jewish Quarter with many Jewish restaurants and Jewish music and a lot of visitors. Amusingly, there are no Jews, and gentile Poles dress and act as Jews for the benefit of tourists.

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  63. @Che Guava
    Mr. Shamir,

    I was pleased to read
    Trump went to church hand in hand with his lady-wife just before the oath
    it wasn't mentioned in any of the accounts I read before.

    Was that the service at the National Cathedral, with parts of the service Judaic and Islamic?

    I fear that you, as I think I and many others were, are too optimistic about the new administration.

    However, having read your whole article, you do make a case for optimism, but it would take 'You're fired' at his son in law, among many others.

    We all must wait and see.

    God bless you, Mr. Shamir.

    Che, the church (St. John’s Church, across from the White House) had nothing for Jews or Muslims. Even more: the preacher has been chosen for his “bigotry” http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/19/politics/trump-jeffress-pastor/and here are nice pictures of the church attendance http://people.com/politics/donald-and-melania-trump-attend-traditional-inauguration-day-church-service-with-family-members/
    As for necessity to fire his son in law: in my view, Jews can be employed and used all right, just the more important decisions the President must take himself. This is Trump’s view, too. And I stressed in the bottom line: let Yin be, just keep it away from dominance.

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    Thanks Mr. Shamir.

    I was thinking of the reports of the ceremony at the 'National Cathedral'.

    Glad to hear that there was one before that.

    God bless you and regards.
  64. woodNfish says:
    @Anon
    Are you high on drugs? The Democratic Party is about as mainstream and corporatist as you can get.

    Mainstream? Not any more, but they are fascists as you say.

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  65. Dianna says:
    @Seraphim
    All was known well before the 'Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs", which are late apocryphal texts. The story of the continuous work of Satan among humans after their fall is contained in the Book of Genesis:
    "AND it came to pass when men began to be numerous upon the earth, and daughters were born to them, 2 that the sons of God having seen the daughters of men that they were beautiful, took to themselves wives of all whom they chose. 3 And the Lord God said, My Spirit shall certainly not remain among these men for ever, because they are flesh, but their days shall be an hundred and twenty years. 4 Now the giants were upon the earth in those days; and after that when the sons of God were wont to go in to the daughters of men, they bore [children to them, those were the giants of old, the men of renown. 5 And the Lord God, having seen that the wicked actions of men were multiplied upon the earth, and that every one in his heart was intently brooding over evil continually, 6 then God laid it to heart that he had made man upon the earth, and he pondered [it] deeply. 7 And God said, I will blot out man whom I have made from the face of the earth, even man with cattle, and reptiles with flying creatures of the sky, for I am grieved that I have made them. 8 But Noe found grace before the Lord God....

    Who the 'sons of God' were, we learn more from the Book of Enoch (which is a 'semi-canonical' Scripture), they were not 'angels' but humans:
    "The names of the leaders [the Watchers] are given as "Samyaza (Shemyazaz), their leader, Araqiel, Râmêêl, Kokabiel, Tamiel, Ramiel, Dânêl, Chazaqiel, Baraqiel, Asael, Armaros, Batariel, Bezaliel, Ananiel, Zaqiel, Shamsiel, Satariel, Turiel, Yomiel, Sariel"

    "And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three hundred ells:Who consumed all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, the giants turned against them and devoured mankind. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood...
    And Azâzêl taught men to make swords, and knives, and shields, and breastplates, and made known to them the metals of the earth and the art of working them, and bracelets, and ornaments, and the use of antimony, and the beautifying of the eyelids, and all kinds of costly stones, and all colouring tinctures. And there arose much godlessness, and they committed fornication, and they were led astray, and became corrupt in all their ways. Semjâzâ taught enchantments, and root-cuttings, Armârôs the resolving of enchantments, Barâqîjâl, taught astrology, Kôkabêl the constellations, Ezêqêêl the knowledge of the clouds, Araqiêl the signs of the earth, Shamsiêl the signs of the sun, and Sariêl the course of the moon...
    [Michael, Uriel, Raphael, and Gabriel appeal to God to judge the inhabitants of the world and the fallen angels. Uriel is then sent by God to tell Noah of the coming cataclysm and what he needs to do].
    "Then said the Most High, the Holy and Great One spoke, and sent Uriel to the son of Lamech, and said to him: Go to Noah and tell him in my name "Hide thyself!" and reveal to him the end that is approaching: that the whole earth will be destroyed, and a deluge is about to come upon the whole earth, and will destroy all that is on it. And now instruct him that he may escape and his seed may be preserved for all the generations of the world....

    I had never read any of those writings until recently. Many of the Jewish writings have valuable information to those who are searching for truth. Have you read the ode’s of Soloman? The same techniques are used in each generation, even back to the Sumerian tablets. Always The oppressors over the oppressed, who take away the key to knowledge. The whole world is under the spell of the evil one. The spirit of Christ told us that women and children would rule over us.

    Isaiah 3:4-5 (KJV)
    And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them. [5] And the people shall be oppressed, every one by another, and every one by his neighbour: the child shall behave himself proudly against the ancient, and the base against the honourable.

    Acts 2:38-40 (KJV)
    Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. [39] For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. [40] And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.

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  66. @Robert Magill

    Men love women, we are made that way. We love their beautiful bodies and their compassionate souls, their high spirit and their subtle mind. They are our lovers, friends, comrades
     
    .

    We love them so much we have held them captive since the Late Bronze Age. Any harmony that exists between the sexes is the equivalent of a universal "Stockholm Syndrome" in which the captives learn of necessity to love their oppressors.

    Rather than Shamir's take on the rise of 'dark' feminine forces consider what has happened as the call of outraged women for true equality for once. Shamir thinks very little of rad-fems but I look at it quite differently. They want a larger slice of the pie; I want the ladies to have one half the pie and the recipe.

    Ours is the only species where one half, an entire gender, is subordinate to the other. Wouldn't work with voles, or hippos or rabbits. Why do we think it works for us? Only the failure to reach critical mass in planet devastation and human folly has postponed the inevitable revenge of nature on our sorry lot.

    http://robertmagill.wordpress.com

    You are what we call in the Alt Right sphere a cuckold.

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  67. nsa says:
    @woodNfish
    Joe,

    I should have clarified my comment, and meant to, but by the time I was going to do it, I couldn't edit it any longer. What I should have written is, "Because they know many women are dumbass commie cunts."

    You are right, not all women are morns. Madam Curie comes to mind as one of the great scientists who happened to be female., and my wife is extremely smart, (and not just because she married me). I even know some democrat women who are smart, but the vote stupid. That is why I wrote "many" and not all. Intelligence like most things in life is a bell curve.

    I must say one thing though, whores and prostitutes are not "ladies". A lady would never be either one, and she wouldn't be seen with the commie cunts who marched on Sunday. Ashley Judd is no lady, and she is a whore as are most the feminazi leaders who aren't rug munching perverts.

    Mostly though they are a very sad sight - dumb and duped by the Left with nothing to proclaim except the desire to murder their babies, be whores and be taken advantage of. There is a reason the grubers are called "useful tools."

    You left out the high percentage of dried up old menopausal crones and obvious militant butch rug munchers. Hell, in one of the clips I think I spotted my ex-wife in a pink knit cap and full PMS attack mode…all red in the face and primal screaming away. Lucky break the sound happened to be turned off…..

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    You're right, I left them out - thanks for adding them in. Sounds like you got lucky that the bitch is now an ex.
  68. Sam J. says:

    I wonder if Trump is playing the Israeli’s or are the Israeli’s playing Trump or are they both playing each other? I have no idea.

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  69. woodNfish says:
    @nsa
    You left out the high percentage of dried up old menopausal crones and obvious militant butch rug munchers. Hell, in one of the clips I think I spotted my ex-wife in a pink knit cap and full PMS attack mode...all red in the face and primal screaming away. Lucky break the sound happened to be turned off.....

    You’re right, I left them out – thanks for adding them in. Sounds like you got lucky that the bitch is now an ex.

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  70. Svigor says:

    Hey, women are legally stoned in Colorado now, too.

    Ours is the only species where one half, an entire gender, is subordinate to the other. Wouldn’t work with voles, or hippos or rabbits. Why do we think it works for us? Only the failure to reach critical mass in planet devastation and human folly has postponed the inevitable revenge of nature on our sorry lot.

    To the extent that this is true, it’s because ours is the only species that subordinates anything. Welcome to civilization.

    Really, you’re outraged that man is unique among the species?

    The idea of painting gays as untrustworthy really diminishes the validity of your article. I totally agree with much of your point, but the gay people I work with are the most loyal employees I have. And looking back into history loyalty seems to be their trademark.

    They’ve always been a security risk (blackmail), given their perverse and generally unpopular lifestyle. The same contributes to their tendency to resent society. A lot of the problems are baked into the cake, in other words.

    Speaking of Soros and FEMEN, he stopped funding them a couple of years back when they decided to open an Israel branch – went off the leash, so to speak.

    That was according to a Facebook post by the group’s France department, anyway.

    If that was as it seems, then it is perhaps the crispest demonstration possible that Soros is not some merely deluded billionaire but an actively malevolent enemy of European-American civilization.

    Yes, it’s good to have some confirmation on Soros (i.e., that he’s just another phony leftist, but genuine Jewish Supremacist). Really the prime case is West vs. Israel, as ever. Soros isn’t a big presence in Israel, despite the fact that they need his “help” there far more than the West does. Or the simple fact that hectoring everyone else to clean up their back yards, while yours is a complete disaster far worse than the rest, is just bad optics.

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    Bitchy is, I think, a good summary of what you are trying to express, but they are not all like that.
  71. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Anon

    The best homosexual writer of the 20th century, Jean Genet, glorified cruelty, betrayal and murder in his wonderful Our Lady of Flowers.
     
    I'd say the best homosexual writer of the 20th century is Japanese Yukio Mishima. His personality had some of Genet's features (when his personality started to form he "fell in love with men's muscles and death"), but they are very distant from one another when it comes to betrayal, as Mishima's words and life's conclusion are there to prove.

    Never read him but Proust is considered by many to be the greatest novelist of the 20th century.
    I think he was homo or bi.

    I think Lorca was a homo. He was a great poet.

    There were rumors that Kafka was a closet-homo, but I dunno.

    Tennessee Williams and Capote were homos.

    Pasolini should have stuck to literature. His early films were good but he progressively got worse after 65.

    Thomas Mann was married but considered a homo.

    Gore Vidal was a very entertaining fruit.

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  72. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Eric Novak
    You are what we call in the Alt Right sphere a cuckold.

    No, he is what is called a troll.

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  73. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Israel Shamir
    Homintern! Bravo! And thank you for the Femen Israeli trip story - it fits nicely. As for relation to Jews - this is very very common and means very little. Spaniards used to say limpieza de sangre is found in peasant families only. I doubt it would justify, say, bombing of Iran.
    And regarding Poland: they are very philosemitic. In Krakow, there is a Jewish Quarter with many Jewish restaurants and Jewish music and a lot of visitors. Amusingly, there are no Jews, and gentile Poles dress and act as Jews for the benefit of tourists.

    Anno Sodomini

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  74. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    “My Body My Choice”

    OK, a woman has control of her own body.

    But the baby inside her body is not her body. It is another body growing inside her body because a man deposited sperm inside of her.
    The baby didn’t grow spontaneously inside her. It was because the man deposited sperm into her. And did the mother create the kid alone or with the input of the father?
    So, the body inside her body is the man’s deposit like money in the bank.
    It is not like her arms, legs, etc. It has its individuality and its own arms and legs.

    A woman can CHOOSE not to accept the deposit of the sperm, but once she does so, there is another body inside her, and she can’t say it’s just a part of her body. After all, the baby keeps growing inside her until it demands separation from her body thru the process of birth.

    Everyone needs to ask, “When I was inside my ma’s womb, was that my body or my ma’s body?”

    If it is just a part of her body, then it wouldn’t seek exit and autonomy. I mean hearts, lungs, and livers don’t grow bigger and seek exit from the body. They remain as part of body. But babies inside the womb grow bigger and soon seek ‘escape’ and autonomy. So, it is not part of the woman’s body. It is a proto-autonomous body growing inside the woman’s body.

    So, should we ban abortion?

    No, we should allow abortion because a woman who wants to kill her own kid has no business being a mother.
    Also, we should pay black women to kill their babies because, once born, many of them will end up like Al Sharpton or Miss Hell Gorillabama.

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    If it weren't for abortion blacks would be about 35 percent of the population instead of 12 percent and crime would be out of control.
    The courts would be bussing the savages 150 miles a day to destroy rural White schools.
    Do you want that?
  75. @Durruti
    Verymuchalive

    "Sorry, but I did visit your website ( to verify Old Leftie ). You occasionally mention it in passing."

    I have no website.

    Kindly provide a link.

    Am a member of Anarchist Collective. Our militants insist we are (morally), not right versus left, but right rather than wrong.

    And we AC have no website.

    I am neither "Old" nor a "Leftie".

    Must Have got you mixed up with someone with a similar handle.
    Apologies.

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  76. […] Original publié par The Unz Review. […]

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  77. @woodNfish
    You're right, I left them out - thanks for adding them in. Sounds like you got lucky that the bitch is now an ex.

    I’ll bet you charm the ladies wherever you go.

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    As I've said before, all ladies are women, but not all women are ladies.
  78. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Israel, what happened with you when you wrote this?

    As I was going through the part on homosexuals, I was progressively bewildered: could that be Shamir’s writing?

    If we played a game about finding what the first 3 adjectives coming to our mind regarding a person are, and the person were you, I’d say empathic, courageous, nice.
    Your column is among my favourites here.

    But here you speak of closets and people who should be brought back into closets; this is very ugly talk.
    That “deviant” word bespeaks anger too.

    If you believe homosexuality is a sickness, I am fine with that: till it was allowed to say, many psychologists and psychiatrists of importance supported this claim, and so far as I am concerned, it may well be true.

    But when you call a sick person “deviant”, you are being violent towards them.
    Why do this?

    And is it true homosexual men are less trustworthy than, say, women or heterosexual men?
    You say this is not allowed to be said now. Thanks for saying it, I like people who say non-allowed things.
    But is it true?
    Aren’t all humans prone to betrayal?
    Maybe women and effeminate men are easier to this kind of unreliable behavior? But then it is not righteous to single out homosexuals, you should tell the whole thing.

    To leave no room for misunderstanding: I am against the politicization and glorification of homosexuality, but you can fight it while not being derogatory toward homosexuals, and not inciting homo hatred (as your present piece, in my opinion, does).

    Reading this piece, nice homosexuals may suffer a lot unjustly, and other people may get an unfavorable opinion of all homosexuals, while the annoying (and most visible and loud) ones are the same % as you’d find in every other demographics.
    So in speaking of them you didn’t serve and honor truth, as it’s your custom to do.

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    I doubt he cares about private behavior, its the public behavior that leads to societal ill. And its good, really good, to go on the attack sometime. It does the heart many favors.

    Priss is right. We keep pulling punches and playing defense. Its a losing strategy.
    , @Seraphim
    The universal disgust for homosexuality is the natural disgust for feces and their polluting effect. Scatophilia was always considered a mental illness.
    , @NoseytheDuke
    I agree with what you've written except that using the word 'deviant' bespeaks anger. Surely one who deviates is therefore a deviant, simply an individual out of the norm? One who treads a different path? Deviant could be used as a pejorative but I think the word is flexible enough to be used playfully also.

    I don't think about queers much except when one is so extravagantly obvious and out of place and even that can be with amusing or annoying or both. Like yourself I don't wish them any harm but they are overreaching and are fuelling a backlash from those who DO hate them. My crystal ball is a cheap, older model but even I can see this in the future.
  79. Durruti says:
    @woodNfish
    Nope - “Restore our Republic!” doesn't have the same intensity as “Make America Great Again!”. It is archaic and people can't relate to it while they understand very clearly what “Make America Great Again!” means. In addition, “Make America Great Again!” has broader appeal because it encompasses more than just the political which is another weakness of “Restore our Republic!”. “Make America Great Again!” isn't just about politics it is about jobs, immigration, trade, crime, international respect, etc. Trumps knows and understands marketing and his slogan proves it.

    “Trumps knows and understands marketing and his slogan proves it.”

    The (your), magic words are “marketing” and “slogan.”

    In many ways, I consider America “Great” now. With the understood truths: (however),

    America is, at the same time:

    Not a Sovereign Nation.

    Not a functioning Democratic Republic! (not since November 22, 1963).

    Restoring our Beloved and Historic Republic – is not “marketing” or a “slogan.” It is a moral imperative, required for the survival of our nation (and its people), and the happy and prosperous survival of humanity.

    Durruti – alias, Peter J. Antonsen

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    I think your picking nits, Durruti, but if you want people to join you politically, you have to sell your message. So your dislike of Trump's slogan as not being precise enough and the fact that he used it to market his platform really doesn't matter. It worked, people bought into his platform and his ideas. That is all that matters - he succeeded.

    Why do you think the US is not sovereign? And if you are going to point to Israel, as much as I'd love to see us break that connection, it is a conscious choice to support them made by our sovereign country. If you are going to claim it is the globalists - well, that is why we elected Trump. We are still sovereign either way.

    The US has never been a "Democratic Republic". It is a constitutional federal republic with representative democracy. Our founders considered democracy to be anarchy and they were correct.

    I don't think our survival as a nation will make any difference tot he survival of humanity. Human societies and nations were around for thousands of years before the US and they will be for thousands of years after it is gone. I also don't think there is any way to extinguish all life on this planet, including humanity's. I think that is just fear mongering from people who want money for something.
  80. woodNfish says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    I'll bet you charm the ladies wherever you go.

    As I’ve said before, all ladies are women, but not all women are ladies.

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  81. Durruti says:
    @Captain Cook
    Yes, "Restore our Republic!" might have been an even better Trump campaign pitch than "Make America Great Again." (less redolent of TRiUMPhalism (both lost and aspired)

    Agreed:

    “Yes, “Restore our Republic!” might have been an even better Trump campaign pitch than “Make America Great Again.” (less redolent of TRiUMPhalism (both lost and aspired)”

    Check my response to woodNfish’s response to you. (#83, or so)

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    Lucky for Trump that you two weren't on his marketing team. You're fired! No offence. More Americans would link the word Republic with a clothing brand, tobacco brand or something to do with bananas than they would a system of governance.

    MAGA was pure and simple genius and DT knows that stuff much better than most, that includes those who're already successful working in the marketing business.

  82. woodNfish says:
    @Durruti
    "Trumps knows and understands marketing and his slogan proves it."

    The (your), magic words are "marketing" and "slogan."

    In many ways, I consider America "Great" now. With the understood truths: (however),

    America is, at the same time:

    Not a Sovereign Nation.

    Not a functioning Democratic Republic! (not since November 22, 1963).

    Restoring our Beloved and Historic Republic - is not "marketing" or a "slogan." It is a moral imperative, required for the survival of our nation (and its people), and the happy and prosperous survival of humanity.

    Durruti - alias, Peter J. Antonsen

    I think your picking nits, Durruti, but if you want people to join you politically, you have to sell your message. So your dislike of Trump’s slogan as not being precise enough and the fact that he used it to market his platform really doesn’t matter. It worked, people bought into his platform and his ideas. That is all that matters – he succeeded.

    Why do you think the US is not sovereign? And if you are going to point to Israel, as much as I’d love to see us break that connection, it is a conscious choice to support them made by our sovereign country. If you are going to claim it is the globalists – well, that is why we elected Trump. We are still sovereign either way.

    The US has never been a “Democratic Republic”. It is a constitutional federal republic with representative democracy. Our founders considered democracy to be anarchy and they were correct.

    I don’t think our survival as a nation will make any difference tot he survival of humanity. Human societies and nations were around for thousands of years before the US and they will be for thousands of years after it is gone. I also don’t think there is any way to extinguish all life on this planet, including humanity’s. I think that is just fear mongering from people who want money for something.

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  83. @Anonymous
    Israel, what happened with you when you wrote this?

    As I was going through the part on homosexuals, I was progressively bewildered: could that be Shamir's writing?

    If we played a game about finding what the first 3 adjectives coming to our mind regarding a person are, and the person were you, I'd say empathic, courageous, nice.
    Your column is among my favourites here.

    But here you speak of closets and people who should be brought back into closets; this is very ugly talk.
    That "deviant" word bespeaks anger too.

    If you believe homosexuality is a sickness, I am fine with that: till it was allowed to say, many psychologists and psychiatrists of importance supported this claim, and so far as I am concerned, it may well be true.

    But when you call a sick person "deviant", you are being violent towards them.
    Why do this?

    And is it true homosexual men are less trustworthy than, say, women or heterosexual men?
    You say this is not allowed to be said now. Thanks for saying it, I like people who say non-allowed things.
    But is it true?
    Aren't all humans prone to betrayal?
    Maybe women and effeminate men are easier to this kind of unreliable behavior? But then it is not righteous to single out homosexuals, you should tell the whole thing.

    To leave no room for misunderstanding: I am against the politicization and glorification of homosexuality, but you can fight it while not being derogatory toward homosexuals, and not inciting homo hatred (as your present piece, in my opinion, does).

    Reading this piece, nice homosexuals may suffer a lot unjustly, and other people may get an unfavorable opinion of all homosexuals, while the annoying (and most visible and loud) ones are the same % as you'd find in every other demographics.
    So in speaking of them you didn't serve and honor truth, as it's your custom to do.

    I doubt he cares about private behavior, its the public behavior that leads to societal ill. And its good, really good, to go on the attack sometime. It does the heart many favors.

    Priss is right. We keep pulling punches and playing defense. Its a losing strategy.

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  84. Che Guava says:
    @OilcanFloyd
    I agree with Mishima, who was otherwise a traditionalist, although a very extreme one. Wasn't he more of a bisexual?

    more of a bisexual?

    That is what our friend Priss said when Mishima came up in a thread last year. There are no hints that he had any affairs with women before his relatively late arranged marriage.

    His semi-autobiographical Confessions of a Mask makes his preference very clear, as do many points in his other works.

    At least two of his male lovers, one very long-term, have stated that is what they were. The very long-term one, now deceased, wrote a book about it. Mishima’s widow and sons are very influential with the ruling party, they successfully sued to stop publication. The other I know of is a drag queen, don’t watch much TV lately, but was on pretty regularly into the 00s.

    Getting married to have children was what many homosexual men of means did, in my opinion far better than the Elton John-David Furnish (how apt the latter’s name) style lies emanating from the west of now. ‘Donna has two daddies’ etc.

    I don’t know about traditionalist, either. He dodged military service by faking illness.

    His final piece of theatre (invading a military base, tying up a general, addressing the troops, being ridiculed, then committing ritual suicide with his top lieutenant) is widely (not universally) considered to have been a double love suicide (much romanticised in Japanese folklore and arts). I believe it was.

    There is a very good video on u-tub, of him debating ultra-left students of the time, I think at Tokyo Uni. (forget which Uni.). His words are very funny and eloquent, he is also wearing a prototypical gay muscle-man outfit.

    I have a few neo-fascist friends (Japanese variety), the leader of them idolizes Mishima, but acknowledges that Mishima was essentially homosexual.

    Post is too long, but must add, the three ‘soldiers’ in Mishima”s private army who took part in the attack but did not commit suicide are very influential to the habitual ruling party.

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    Post is too long, but must add, the three ‘soldiers’ in Mishima”s private army who took part in the attack but did not commit suicide are very influential to the habitual ruling party.
     
    Really? That's awesome. On an official capacity, or in a much more veiled one?
    , @OilcanFloyd
    You may be right that Mishima was a homosexual, but I did read somewhere that he was bisexual. It's also my understanding that he wanted a return to traditional Japan, and was at odds with the occupation and westernizing influences, even though his own lifestyle was influenced by western culture.

    I haven't read much Japanese literature, but Mishima's way of thinking and writing (maybe it's the translators?) is very unique to me. Maybe his thinking and writing is typical for Japanese? I don't know.
  85. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Over there over there
    Send the word, send the word over there
    That the Skanks are coming, the Skanks are coming,

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  86. Che Guava says:
    @Israel Shamir
    Che, the church (St. John's Church, across from the White House) had nothing for Jews or Muslims. Even more: the preacher has been chosen for his "bigotry" http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/19/politics/trump-jeffress-pastor/and here are nice pictures of the church attendance http://people.com/politics/donald-and-melania-trump-attend-traditional-inauguration-day-church-service-with-family-members/
    As for necessity to fire his son in law: in my view, Jews can be employed and used all right, just the more important decisions the President must take himself. This is Trump's view, too. And I stressed in the bottom line: let Yin be, just keep it away from dominance.

    Thanks Mr. Shamir.

    I was thinking of the reports of the ceremony at the ‘National Cathedral’.

    Glad to hear that there was one before that.

    God bless you and regards.

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  87. Che Guava says:
    @Svigor
    Hey, women are legally stoned in Colorado now, too.

    Ours is the only species where one half, an entire gender, is subordinate to the other. Wouldn’t work with voles, or hippos or rabbits. Why do we think it works for us? Only the failure to reach critical mass in planet devastation and human folly has postponed the inevitable revenge of nature on our sorry lot.
     
    To the extent that this is true, it's because ours is the only species that subordinates anything. Welcome to civilization.

    Really, you're outraged that man is unique among the species?

    The idea of painting gays as untrustworthy really diminishes the validity of your article. I totally agree with much of your point, but the gay people I work with are the most loyal employees I have. And looking back into history loyalty seems to be their trademark.
     
    They've always been a security risk (blackmail), given their perverse and generally unpopular lifestyle. The same contributes to their tendency to resent society. A lot of the problems are baked into the cake, in other words.

    Speaking of Soros and FEMEN, he stopped funding them a couple of years back when they decided to open an Israel branch – went off the leash, so to speak.

    That was according to a Facebook post by the group’s France department, anyway.

    If that was as it seems, then it is perhaps the crispest demonstration possible that Soros is not some merely deluded billionaire but an actively malevolent enemy of European-American civilization.
     
    Yes, it's good to have some confirmation on Soros (i.e., that he's just another phony leftist, but genuine Jewish Supremacist). Really the prime case is West vs. Israel, as ever. Soros isn't a big presence in Israel, despite the fact that they need his "help" there far more than the West does. Or the simple fact that hectoring everyone else to clean up their back yards, while yours is a complete disaster far worse than the rest, is just bad optics.

    Bitchy is, I think, a good summary of what you are trying to express, but they are not all like that.

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  88. Che Guava says: • Website
    @Kyle McKenna
    Interesting. I will try to read some Mishima sometime. I did see a movie about him once, but I doubt it did him justice.

    Kyle,

    If the movie you saw was Mishmima, a Life in Four Parts, directed by Paul Schraeder, it does do him justice.

    Perhaps it doesn’t work so well if you haven’t read the books, of the life, and of his silly private army that became a pivot point (not necessarily for the better) due to its symbolism.

    It is a cycle of four, divided into twelve parts. Each has a biographical part, followed by a scene from a novel, followed by a scene from crazy Mishima’s last day, the scenes from the novels are beautifully realised, the final scenes where he exhorts the soldiers to join his theatrical rebellion and is ridiculed by them, almost exactly like TV footage from the time.

    Since you saw it long ago, if you watch it again, you may gain appreciation of it.

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    Thanks for the information. Yes I believe that is the film I saw, but it was back when I was young and stupid. Now that I am old and stupid, it may well be time to try it again.
  89. @Che Guava

    more of a bisexual?
     
    That is what our friend Priss said when Mishima came up in a thread last year. There are no hints that he had any affairs with women before his relatively late arranged marriage.

    His semi-autobiographical Confessions of a Mask makes his preference very clear, as do many points in his other works.

    At least two of his male lovers, one very long-term, have stated that is what they were. The very long-term one, now deceased, wrote a book about it. Mishima's widow and sons are very influential with the ruling party, they successfully sued to stop publication. The other I know of is a drag queen, don't watch much TV lately, but was on pretty regularly into the 00s.

    Getting married to have children was what many homosexual men of means did, in my opinion far better than the Elton John-David Furnish (how apt the latter's name) style lies emanating from the west of now. 'Donna has two daddies' etc.

    I don't know about traditionalist, either. He dodged military service by faking illness.

    His final piece of theatre (invading a military base, tying up a general, addressing the troops, being ridiculed, then committing ritual suicide with his top lieutenant) is widely (not universally) considered to have been a double love suicide (much romanticised in Japanese folklore and arts). I believe it was.

    There is a very good video on u-tub, of him debating ultra-left students of the time, I think at Tokyo Uni. (forget which Uni.). His words are very funny and eloquent, he is also wearing a prototypical gay muscle-man outfit.

    I have a few neo-fascist friends (Japanese variety), the leader of them idolizes Mishima, but acknowledges that Mishima was essentially homosexual.

    Post is too long, but must add, the three 'soldiers' in Mishima''s private army who took part in the attack but did not commit suicide are very influential to the habitual ruling party.

    Post is too long, but must add, the three ‘soldiers’ in Mishima”s private army who took part in the attack but did not commit suicide are very influential to the habitual ruling party.

    Really? That’s awesome. On an official capacity, or in a much more veiled one?

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    Daniel,

    I don't know about awesome.

    They have influence and good jobs.

    Must be retirement age now. They live in the wealthier parts of this part of the city, so I occasionally see a poster for an event where they speak. Have never been. The neighbouring ward, they have events at the culture hall, at times, there is a banner with a huge photo of Mishima on one side of the entrance, of his lieutenant and or lover, Morita on the other, LDP people, and people too extreme for the LDP attend, from reading in Japanese, the ones ordered not to commit ritual suicide turn up at such events. Why not? It commemorates a big event in their lives, too.

    However, such commemorations are the public face of the nexus between the LDP and other elements.
    , @Che Guava
    Generally veiled.
  90. Disgusted says:

    “Men love women, we are made that way.” Apparently you have never read the early Church Fathers, who often made clear their hatred of women in violently misogynistic tirades. Hatred of women pervades Christianity. And stop appropriating the thoroughly pagan idea of the Logos to refer to the pathetic Hebrew false prophet Jesus. He doesn’t deserve the honor of embodying a PAGAN idea.

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    Actually, we really are. There are entire brain pathways which activate specifically in response to a woman crying, for example, which only happen in men. There's a lot of anti-women writing because its pretty frustrating in a way that we're so wired to be pretty helpless to women in some circumstances, so angry rambles to the paper must do.
    , @Seraphim
    You should rather be disgusted by yourself and the BS cluttering your brain.
    , @anon
    Augustine loved women. He was something of a lecher in his younger days, then had a child with a woman he did not marry; left her to become engaged to a woman with good connections, but it was at that point that he decided to 'amend' his life. His mother was a PITA & Augusting got tired of her advice. I think he did something like put her on one ship while he took another ship . ..

    Thomas Aquinas was a weird duck -- obese, I think the story is; probably afraid of women rather than didn't like them.
    , @Dianna
    Perhaps early "church writers" misapplied the scriptures? Could it be that it is still happening today? Who would have the most to gain by misrepresenting the teaching of our Lord Jesus Christ?

    Galatians 3:26-29 (KJV)
    For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. [27] For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. [28] There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. [29] And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
  91. @Disgusted
    "Men love women, we are made that way." Apparently you have never read the early Church Fathers, who often made clear their hatred of women in violently misogynistic tirades. Hatred of women pervades Christianity. And stop appropriating the thoroughly pagan idea of the Logos to refer to the pathetic Hebrew false prophet Jesus. He doesn't deserve the honor of embodying a PAGAN idea.

    Actually, we really are. There are entire brain pathways which activate specifically in response to a woman crying, for example, which only happen in men. There’s a lot of anti-women writing because its pretty frustrating in a way that we’re so wired to be pretty helpless to women in some circumstances, so angry rambles to the paper must do.

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  92. @Che Guava
    Kyle,

    If the movie you saw was Mishmima, a Life in Four Parts, directed by Paul Schraeder, it does do him justice.

    Perhaps it doesn't work so well if you haven't read the books, of the life, and of his silly private army that became a pivot point (not necessarily for the better) due to its symbolism.

    It is a cycle of four, divided into twelve parts. Each has a biographical part, followed by a scene from a novel, followed by a scene from crazy Mishima's last day, the scenes from the novels are beautifully realised, the final scenes where he exhorts the soldiers to join his theatrical rebellion and is ridiculed by them, almost exactly like TV footage from the time.

    Since you saw it long ago, if you watch it again, you may gain appreciation of it.

    Thanks for the information. Yes I believe that is the film I saw, but it was back when I was young and stupid. Now that I am old and stupid, it may well be time to try it again.

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    • Replies: @Che Guava
    Perhaps. It was banned in Japan for a long time at the request of his widow.

    French, Japanese, US coproduction.

    I assure you, it is generally accurate, a masterpiece in my view. I have great doubt of the greatness of Pip Glazier, but think he does his best work on the soundtrack of the movie.

    Regards.
  93. fatalist says:
    @animalogic
    "Private life in Russia is free and unhindered, but the deviants who want to celebrate their deviance in a public space in the presence of minors are stopped. "
    Many will find the above far too liberal. I disagree only with " in the presence of minors" & would amend "minors" to "anyone".
    Actually, I'm not sure why people need to "celebrate" ANY sexual matters in PUBLIC ? Or is that simply prudishness ? What they -- adults-- do in the privacy of their own homes is something I wish not to know.

    “Actually, I’m not sure why people need to “celebrate” ANY sexual matters in PUBLIC ? Or is that simply prudishness ? What they — adults– do in the privacy of their own homes is something I wish not to know.”

    Sir, I would like to stand you a pint, but distance…..thank you, anyway.

    I am glad I’ll have decomposed back into stardust before these phenomena become widespread.

    God bless Ron Unz.

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  94. Seraphim says:
    @Disgusted
    "Men love women, we are made that way." Apparently you have never read the early Church Fathers, who often made clear their hatred of women in violently misogynistic tirades. Hatred of women pervades Christianity. And stop appropriating the thoroughly pagan idea of the Logos to refer to the pathetic Hebrew false prophet Jesus. He doesn't deserve the honor of embodying a PAGAN idea.

    You should rather be disgusted by yourself and the BS cluttering your brain.

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  95. Seraphim says:
    @Anonymous
    Israel, what happened with you when you wrote this?

    As I was going through the part on homosexuals, I was progressively bewildered: could that be Shamir's writing?

    If we played a game about finding what the first 3 adjectives coming to our mind regarding a person are, and the person were you, I'd say empathic, courageous, nice.
    Your column is among my favourites here.

    But here you speak of closets and people who should be brought back into closets; this is very ugly talk.
    That "deviant" word bespeaks anger too.

    If you believe homosexuality is a sickness, I am fine with that: till it was allowed to say, many psychologists and psychiatrists of importance supported this claim, and so far as I am concerned, it may well be true.

    But when you call a sick person "deviant", you are being violent towards them.
    Why do this?

    And is it true homosexual men are less trustworthy than, say, women or heterosexual men?
    You say this is not allowed to be said now. Thanks for saying it, I like people who say non-allowed things.
    But is it true?
    Aren't all humans prone to betrayal?
    Maybe women and effeminate men are easier to this kind of unreliable behavior? But then it is not righteous to single out homosexuals, you should tell the whole thing.

    To leave no room for misunderstanding: I am against the politicization and glorification of homosexuality, but you can fight it while not being derogatory toward homosexuals, and not inciting homo hatred (as your present piece, in my opinion, does).

    Reading this piece, nice homosexuals may suffer a lot unjustly, and other people may get an unfavorable opinion of all homosexuals, while the annoying (and most visible and loud) ones are the same % as you'd find in every other demographics.
    So in speaking of them you didn't serve and honor truth, as it's your custom to do.

    The universal disgust for homosexuality is the natural disgust for feces and their polluting effect. Scatophilia was always considered a mental illness.

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  96. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Disgusted
    "Men love women, we are made that way." Apparently you have never read the early Church Fathers, who often made clear their hatred of women in violently misogynistic tirades. Hatred of women pervades Christianity. And stop appropriating the thoroughly pagan idea of the Logos to refer to the pathetic Hebrew false prophet Jesus. He doesn't deserve the honor of embodying a PAGAN idea.

    Augustine loved women. He was something of a lecher in his younger days, then had a child with a woman he did not marry; left her to become engaged to a woman with good connections, but it was at that point that he decided to ‘amend’ his life. His mother was a PITA & Augusting got tired of her advice. I think he did something like put her on one ship while he took another ship . ..

    Thomas Aquinas was a weird duck — obese, I think the story is; probably afraid of women rather than didn’t like them.

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  97. Icy Blast says:
    @Robert Magill

    Men love women, we are made that way. We love their beautiful bodies and their compassionate souls, their high spirit and their subtle mind. They are our lovers, friends, comrades
     
    .

    We love them so much we have held them captive since the Late Bronze Age. Any harmony that exists between the sexes is the equivalent of a universal "Stockholm Syndrome" in which the captives learn of necessity to love their oppressors.

    Rather than Shamir's take on the rise of 'dark' feminine forces consider what has happened as the call of outraged women for true equality for once. Shamir thinks very little of rad-fems but I look at it quite differently. They want a larger slice of the pie; I want the ladies to have one half the pie and the recipe.

    Ours is the only species where one half, an entire gender, is subordinate to the other. Wouldn't work with voles, or hippos or rabbits. Why do we think it works for us? Only the failure to reach critical mass in planet devastation and human folly has postponed the inevitable revenge of nature on our sorry lot.

    http://robertmagill.wordpress.com

    There’s nothing quite as contemptible as a male feminist. Add the cowardly denial of reality and the pretentious Malthusian pseudoscience and you have a recipe for instant nausea.

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  98. @Anonymous
    Israel, what happened with you when you wrote this?

    As I was going through the part on homosexuals, I was progressively bewildered: could that be Shamir's writing?

    If we played a game about finding what the first 3 adjectives coming to our mind regarding a person are, and the person were you, I'd say empathic, courageous, nice.
    Your column is among my favourites here.

    But here you speak of closets and people who should be brought back into closets; this is very ugly talk.
    That "deviant" word bespeaks anger too.

    If you believe homosexuality is a sickness, I am fine with that: till it was allowed to say, many psychologists and psychiatrists of importance supported this claim, and so far as I am concerned, it may well be true.

    But when you call a sick person "deviant", you are being violent towards them.
    Why do this?

    And is it true homosexual men are less trustworthy than, say, women or heterosexual men?
    You say this is not allowed to be said now. Thanks for saying it, I like people who say non-allowed things.
    But is it true?
    Aren't all humans prone to betrayal?
    Maybe women and effeminate men are easier to this kind of unreliable behavior? But then it is not righteous to single out homosexuals, you should tell the whole thing.

    To leave no room for misunderstanding: I am against the politicization and glorification of homosexuality, but you can fight it while not being derogatory toward homosexuals, and not inciting homo hatred (as your present piece, in my opinion, does).

    Reading this piece, nice homosexuals may suffer a lot unjustly, and other people may get an unfavorable opinion of all homosexuals, while the annoying (and most visible and loud) ones are the same % as you'd find in every other demographics.
    So in speaking of them you didn't serve and honor truth, as it's your custom to do.

    I agree with what you’ve written except that using the word ‘deviant’ bespeaks anger. Surely one who deviates is therefore a deviant, simply an individual out of the norm? One who treads a different path? Deviant could be used as a pejorative but I think the word is flexible enough to be used playfully also.

    I don’t think about queers much except when one is so extravagantly obvious and out of place and even that can be with amusing or annoying or both. Like yourself I don’t wish them any harm but they are overreaching and are fuelling a backlash from those who DO hate them. My crystal ball is a cheap, older model but even I can see this in the future.

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  99. @Durruti
    Agreed:

    "Yes, “Restore our Republic!” might have been an even better Trump campaign pitch than “Make America Great Again.” (less redolent of TRiUMPhalism (both lost and aspired)"

    Check my response to woodNfish's response to you. (#83, or so)

    Lucky for Trump that you two weren’t on his marketing team. You’re fired! No offence. More Americans would link the word Republic with a clothing brand, tobacco brand or something to do with bananas than they would a system of governance.

    MAGA was pure and simple genius and DT knows that stuff much better than most, that includes those who’re already successful working in the marketing business.

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    You are not wrong. Your remarks are learned and intelligent.

    I come from the emotional side, the side of the VISION.

    The Republican (of which Democracy is an essential ingredient) form of Government is the best (or least evil), form of political agreement/arrangement yet attempted. From Locke, to Jefferson, Paine, Franklin, Thoreau, Lincoln, Kennedy, Ron Paul, etc..

    Durruti and his Spanish Anarchists gave their lives defending the elected, (and far from ideal), Spanish Republic. In 1936, Durruti was asked by the leaders of that Republic, to help defend Madrid, and, while, his anarchists also defended Catalonia, he arrived in Madrid with 1300 Anarchist Militia, and helped stop (for a while), the Fascist Military assault.

    While there is breath in me: in my Homeland:

    The Republic is Dead! Long Live the Republic!
  100. Svigor says:

    No, we should allow abortion because a woman who wants to kill her own kid has no business being a mother.
    Also, we should pay black women to kill their babies because, once born, many of them will end up like Al Sharpton or Miss Hell Gorillabama.

    The level of discourse on abortion may be the one lower than that for race. You can’t even expect people to know that adoption is a thing, and that supply is far exceeded by demand.

    Adoption is the St. George of the abortion dragons. It slays almost all of one or two.

    Generally speaking, all of the arguments for abortion boil down to a woman’s “right” not to look fat for 6 months.

    That “deviant” word bespeaks anger too.

    Indeed; at the people who have tried to normalize everything unhealthy. They are why I use words like “pervert,” “deviant,” etc. Because it drives them bonkers.

    “Men love women, we are made that way.” Apparently you have never read the early Church Fathers, who often made clear their hatred of women in violently misogynistic tirades. Hatred of women pervades Christianity. And stop appropriating the thoroughly pagan idea of the Logos to refer to the pathetic Hebrew false prophet Jesus. He doesn’t deserve the honor of embodying a PAGAN idea.

    If that bothers you about Christianity, you must REALLY hate Judaism.

    Nosey: agreed, a lot of people have no ear at all for politics. “Restore the Republic!”? WTF?

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  101. Dianna says:
    @Disgusted
    "Men love women, we are made that way." Apparently you have never read the early Church Fathers, who often made clear their hatred of women in violently misogynistic tirades. Hatred of women pervades Christianity. And stop appropriating the thoroughly pagan idea of the Logos to refer to the pathetic Hebrew false prophet Jesus. He doesn't deserve the honor of embodying a PAGAN idea.

    Perhaps early “church writers” misapplied the scriptures? Could it be that it is still happening today? Who would have the most to gain by misrepresenting the teaching of our Lord Jesus Christ?

    Galatians 3:26-29 (KJV)
    For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. [27] For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. [28] There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. [29] And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

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    • Replies: @Seraphim
    No, Dianna,

    The early 'church writers' did not misapply the scriptures. It is the cohorts of 'disgusted' who misapplied both the scriptures and the early church writers. Actually, they falsified them.

    Yes, it is still happening today (it is actually a modern phenomenon).

  102. Che Guava says:
    @Kyle McKenna
    Thanks for the information. Yes I believe that is the film I saw, but it was back when I was young and stupid. Now that I am old and stupid, it may well be time to try it again.

    Perhaps. It was banned in Japan for a long time at the request of his widow.

    French, Japanese, US coproduction.

    I assure you, it is generally accurate, a masterpiece in my view. I have great doubt of the greatness of Pip Glazier, but think he does his best work on the soundtrack of the movie.

    Regards.

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  103. Che Guava says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    Post is too long, but must add, the three ‘soldiers’ in Mishima”s private army who took part in the attack but did not commit suicide are very influential to the habitual ruling party.
     
    Really? That's awesome. On an official capacity, or in a much more veiled one?

    Daniel,

    I don’t know about awesome.

    They have influence and good jobs.

    Must be retirement age now. They live in the wealthier parts of this part of the city, so I occasionally see a poster for an event where they speak. Have never been. The neighbouring ward, they have events at the culture hall, at times, there is a banner with a huge photo of Mishima on one side of the entrance, of his lieutenant and or lover, Morita on the other, LDP people, and people too extreme for the LDP attend, from reading in Japanese, the ones ordered not to commit ritual suicide turn up at such events. Why not? It commemorates a big event in their lives, too.

    However, such commemorations are the public face of the nexus between the LDP and other elements.

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  104. Che Guava says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    Post is too long, but must add, the three ‘soldiers’ in Mishima”s private army who took part in the attack but did not commit suicide are very influential to the habitual ruling party.
     
    Really? That's awesome. On an official capacity, or in a much more veiled one?

    Generally veiled.

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  105. מלך says:

    Great article, Israel. Didn’t know you were a Christian.

    Who the ‘sons of God’ were, we learn more from the Book of Enoch (which is a ‘semi-canonical’ Scripture), they were not ‘angels’ but humans

    They were angels — that’s the point the Book of Enoch is making! The same point is made in other 2nd-Temple period Jewish literature (e.g. The Book of Giants).

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    I've read that the word 'angels' is a latinised version of the greek word 'aggelos" and simply means messengers. Any god said to visit and interact directly with humans, then or now, is clearly some kind of lord, a human nevertheless and certainly not that which we call God. Whomever "gave' the land of Palestine to the Israelites was definitely a human as God doesn't work that way despite whatever was scripted on a piece of goatskin to make it appear official.
  106. Durruti says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    Lucky for Trump that you two weren't on his marketing team. You're fired! No offence. More Americans would link the word Republic with a clothing brand, tobacco brand or something to do with bananas than they would a system of governance.

    MAGA was pure and simple genius and DT knows that stuff much better than most, that includes those who're already successful working in the marketing business.

    You are not wrong. Your remarks are learned and intelligent.

    I come from the emotional side, the side of the VISION.

    The Republican (of which Democracy is an essential ingredient) form of Government is the best (or least evil), form of political agreement/arrangement yet attempted. From Locke, to Jefferson, Paine, Franklin, Thoreau, Lincoln, Kennedy, Ron Paul, etc..

    Durruti and his Spanish Anarchists gave their lives defending the elected, (and far from ideal), Spanish Republic. In 1936, Durruti was asked by the leaders of that Republic, to help defend Madrid, and, while, his anarchists also defended Catalonia, he arrived in Madrid with 1300 Anarchist Militia, and helped stop (for a while), the Fascist Military assault.

    While there is breath in me: in my Homeland:

    The Republic is Dead! Long Live the Republic!

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  107. Seraphim says:
    @Dianna
    Perhaps early "church writers" misapplied the scriptures? Could it be that it is still happening today? Who would have the most to gain by misrepresenting the teaching of our Lord Jesus Christ?

    Galatians 3:26-29 (KJV)
    For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. [27] For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. [28] There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. [29] And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

    No, Dianna,

    The early ‘church writers’ did not misapply the scriptures. It is the cohorts of ‘disgusted’ who misapplied both the scriptures and the early church writers. Actually, they falsified them.

    Yes, it is still happening today (it is actually a modern phenomenon).

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    Seraphim,

    That is why I put the question marks. I haven't read all of the early writers, but they had a clearer picture of Christianity, with some exceptions. These men were closer to the apostles and their teaching. I agree, many have been deceived, and will be deceived.

    I should have asked "disgusted" to provide a link for his comment.
  108. @מלך
    Great article, Israel. Didn't know you were a Christian.

    @Seraphim

    Who the ‘sons of God’ were, we learn more from the Book of Enoch (which is a ‘semi-canonical’ Scripture), they were not ‘angels’ but humans
     
    They were angels -- that's the point the Book of Enoch is making! The same point is made in other 2nd-Temple period Jewish literature (e.g. The Book of Giants).

    I’ve read that the word ‘angels’ is a latinised version of the greek word ‘aggelos” and simply means messengers. Any god said to visit and interact directly with humans, then or now, is clearly some kind of lord, a human nevertheless and certainly not that which we call God. Whomever “gave’ the land of Palestine to the Israelites was definitely a human as God doesn’t work that way despite whatever was scripted on a piece of goatskin to make it appear official.

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    • Replies: @Seraphim
    Yes, aggelos (read angelos) means messenger. There is substantial divergence in the interpretation of the term 'Sons of God' (bənê hāʼĕlōhîm, בני האלהים).

    One of them is that they represent the offspring of Seth[the third son of Adam]:
    "The Qumran (Dead Sea Scroll) fragment 4Q417 (4QInstruction) contains the earliest known reference to the phrase "children of Seth", stating that God has condemned them for their rebellion. Other early references to the offspring of Seth rebelling from God and mingling with the daughters of Cain, are found in rabbi Shimon bar Yochai, Augustine of Hippo, Julius Africanus, and the Letters attributed to St. Clement. It is also the view expressed in the modern canonical Amharic Ethiopian Orthodox Bible. In Judaism "Sons of God" usually refers to the righteous, ie the children of Seth".(Wikipedia)

    Josephus Flavius evokes the tradition according to what Seth was a virtuous man of excellent character, and reports that his descendants invented the wisdom of the heavenly bodies, and built the "pillars of the sons of Seth", two pillars inscribed with many scientific discoveries and inventions, notably in astronomy.
    This tradition had more currency in Byzantium. The 'Chronicle of John Malalas' quotes Josephus: “Seth’s descendants were god-fearing men and, having foreknowledge of the destruction, or change, that was then to affect mankind, made two tablets, the one of stone and the other of clay.”

    So, they were rather 'spiritual men', the sages, who jeopardized their spiritual advancement by falling into lust.
  109. Dianna says:
    @Seraphim
    No, Dianna,

    The early 'church writers' did not misapply the scriptures. It is the cohorts of 'disgusted' who misapplied both the scriptures and the early church writers. Actually, they falsified them.

    Yes, it is still happening today (it is actually a modern phenomenon).

    Seraphim,

    That is why I put the question marks. I haven’t read all of the early writers, but they had a clearer picture of Christianity, with some exceptions. These men were closer to the apostles and their teaching. I agree, many have been deceived, and will be deceived.

    I should have asked “disgusted” to provide a link for his comment.

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  110. Seraphim says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    I've read that the word 'angels' is a latinised version of the greek word 'aggelos" and simply means messengers. Any god said to visit and interact directly with humans, then or now, is clearly some kind of lord, a human nevertheless and certainly not that which we call God. Whomever "gave' the land of Palestine to the Israelites was definitely a human as God doesn't work that way despite whatever was scripted on a piece of goatskin to make it appear official.

    Yes, aggelos (read angelos) means messenger. There is substantial divergence in the interpretation of the term ‘Sons of God’ (bənê hāʼĕlōhîm, בני האלהים).

    One of them is that they represent the offspring of Seth[the third son of Adam]:
    “The Qumran (Dead Sea Scroll) fragment 4Q417 (4QInstruction) contains the earliest known reference to the phrase “children of Seth”, stating that God has condemned them for their rebellion. Other early references to the offspring of Seth rebelling from God and mingling with the daughters of Cain, are found in rabbi Shimon bar Yochai, Augustine of Hippo, Julius Africanus, and the Letters attributed to St. Clement. It is also the view expressed in the modern canonical Amharic Ethiopian Orthodox Bible. In Judaism “Sons of God” usually refers to the righteous, ie the children of Seth”.(Wikipedia)

    Josephus Flavius evokes the tradition according to what Seth was a virtuous man of excellent character, and reports that his descendants invented the wisdom of the heavenly bodies, and built the “pillars of the sons of Seth”, two pillars inscribed with many scientific discoveries and inventions, notably in astronomy.
    This tradition had more currency in Byzantium. The ‘Chronicle of John Malalas’ quotes Josephus: “Seth’s descendants were god-fearing men and, having foreknowledge of the destruction, or change, that was then to affect mankind, made two tablets, the one of stone and the other of clay.”

    So, they were rather ‘spiritual men’, the sages, who jeopardized their spiritual advancement by falling into lust.

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    Thank you for your reply. Bene ha Elohim surely translates to sons of the gods, Elohim being the plural and Eloh being the singular. Genesis references gods in plural terms also and earlier texts add the mixed gender of the gods.

    I don't know who were these gods but it is doubtful to me that they are the same entity that is part of the universal creative forces that we attribute to God. I tend to think it more likely that they were an advanced civilisation dispersed by the most turbulent effects of post Ice Age glacial melt who, when confronted with vastly inferior primitive humans seemed as gods and reproduced with them to assist in repopulation. I've read that Adam actually came after the flood and was the first of a new type of human. This makes more sense to me.
    , @Alden
    Did Cain or Abel birth the daughters of Cain? Which one had ovaries, eggs, a womb, a placenta, a birth canal and a plentiful supply of female hormones.?
    Did he have morning sickness? Was his pelvis wide enough for easy births? Was he able to nurse the babies? Or were the nursing duties turned over to Grandma Eve?
    Inquiring minds want to know.
  111. @Che Guava

    more of a bisexual?
     
    That is what our friend Priss said when Mishima came up in a thread last year. There are no hints that he had any affairs with women before his relatively late arranged marriage.

    His semi-autobiographical Confessions of a Mask makes his preference very clear, as do many points in his other works.

    At least two of his male lovers, one very long-term, have stated that is what they were. The very long-term one, now deceased, wrote a book about it. Mishima's widow and sons are very influential with the ruling party, they successfully sued to stop publication. The other I know of is a drag queen, don't watch much TV lately, but was on pretty regularly into the 00s.

    Getting married to have children was what many homosexual men of means did, in my opinion far better than the Elton John-David Furnish (how apt the latter's name) style lies emanating from the west of now. 'Donna has two daddies' etc.

    I don't know about traditionalist, either. He dodged military service by faking illness.

    His final piece of theatre (invading a military base, tying up a general, addressing the troops, being ridiculed, then committing ritual suicide with his top lieutenant) is widely (not universally) considered to have been a double love suicide (much romanticised in Japanese folklore and arts). I believe it was.

    There is a very good video on u-tub, of him debating ultra-left students of the time, I think at Tokyo Uni. (forget which Uni.). His words are very funny and eloquent, he is also wearing a prototypical gay muscle-man outfit.

    I have a few neo-fascist friends (Japanese variety), the leader of them idolizes Mishima, but acknowledges that Mishima was essentially homosexual.

    Post is too long, but must add, the three 'soldiers' in Mishima''s private army who took part in the attack but did not commit suicide are very influential to the habitual ruling party.

    You may be right that Mishima was a homosexual, but I did read somewhere that he was bisexual. It’s also my understanding that he wanted a return to traditional Japan, and was at odds with the occupation and westernizing influences, even though his own lifestyle was influenced by western culture.

    I haven’t read much Japanese literature, but Mishima’s way of thinking and writing (maybe it’s the translators?) is very unique to me. Maybe his thinking and writing is typical for Japanese? I don’t know.

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    Part of it, the indirectness, circuitousness, to imply things, it is typical although not universal, Kobo Abe, one of Mishima's contemporaries, and Marxist-inspired, is similarly or more circuitous at times. Abe was also the inspiration for Haruki Murakami's (or Makimura, Kamimura, Muramaki, as he joked in one, joke only works with the characters) earlier works.

    If one goes back to the beginning, the Pillow Book of Lady Shonagon and the Tale of Genji by Lady Purple (many scholars with weightier opinions than mine posit that the latter was a man) are full of circuitous ways of expression.

    On the other hand, Junichiro Tanizaki is

    quite direct, as was Yasunari Kawabata, and the man that a nearby hill was named for, Natume Soseki.

    Mishima doesn't use indirectness so much (though he does) but uses old-fashioned readings and forms of characters, and archaic expressions.

    I recommend any works by any of the above, you will probably finding a few in your local library system.

    Murakami Ryu also had an interesting few, at least two or three translated into English. They are not nice, but express certain realities, worth the reading.

    This a very old-fashioned list, but I see little recent writing to recommend. One of the big trends in publishing in recent years is the 'light novel', based on 'maid cafe' daydreams behng brought to life.

    Talk about infantilisation!
  112. nickels says:

    Based.

    If the west doesn’t pull out of its nosedive, Russia will be the future and only hope for civilization.

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  113. @Seraphim
    Yes, aggelos (read angelos) means messenger. There is substantial divergence in the interpretation of the term 'Sons of God' (bənê hāʼĕlōhîm, בני האלהים).

    One of them is that they represent the offspring of Seth[the third son of Adam]:
    "The Qumran (Dead Sea Scroll) fragment 4Q417 (4QInstruction) contains the earliest known reference to the phrase "children of Seth", stating that God has condemned them for their rebellion. Other early references to the offspring of Seth rebelling from God and mingling with the daughters of Cain, are found in rabbi Shimon bar Yochai, Augustine of Hippo, Julius Africanus, and the Letters attributed to St. Clement. It is also the view expressed in the modern canonical Amharic Ethiopian Orthodox Bible. In Judaism "Sons of God" usually refers to the righteous, ie the children of Seth".(Wikipedia)

    Josephus Flavius evokes the tradition according to what Seth was a virtuous man of excellent character, and reports that his descendants invented the wisdom of the heavenly bodies, and built the "pillars of the sons of Seth", two pillars inscribed with many scientific discoveries and inventions, notably in astronomy.
    This tradition had more currency in Byzantium. The 'Chronicle of John Malalas' quotes Josephus: “Seth’s descendants were god-fearing men and, having foreknowledge of the destruction, or change, that was then to affect mankind, made two tablets, the one of stone and the other of clay.”

    So, they were rather 'spiritual men', the sages, who jeopardized their spiritual advancement by falling into lust.

    Thank you for your reply. Bene ha Elohim surely translates to sons of the gods, Elohim being the plural and Eloh being the singular. Genesis references gods in plural terms also and earlier texts add the mixed gender of the gods.

    I don’t know who were these gods but it is doubtful to me that they are the same entity that is part of the universal creative forces that we attribute to God. I tend to think it more likely that they were an advanced civilisation dispersed by the most turbulent effects of post Ice Age glacial melt who, when confronted with vastly inferior primitive humans seemed as gods and reproduced with them to assist in repopulation. I’ve read that Adam actually came after the flood and was the first of a new type of human. This makes more sense to me.

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    No, the translation 'sons of God' is the correct one. The Septuagint translation is 'υἱοὶ τοῦ Θεοῦ, ἀγγέλων Θεοῦ', the Latin Vulgate 'filii Dei'.
    'Elohim' was invariably translated as ὁ Θεὸς, Deus. Its plural form was (and still is) explained consistently as designating the Trinity (the plurality in unity which is 'God'). 'And God said, Let us make man according to our image and likeness', καὶ εἶπεν ὁ Θεός· ποιήσωμεν ἄνθρωπον κατ᾿ εἰκόνα ἡμετέραν καὶ καθ᾿ ὁμοίωσιν, et ait faciamus hominem ad imaginem et similitudinem nostram - that's why God made 'man' male and female to be 'one body'). It has nothing to do with a supposed 'polytheism' underlying the text.
  114. Seraphim says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    Thank you for your reply. Bene ha Elohim surely translates to sons of the gods, Elohim being the plural and Eloh being the singular. Genesis references gods in plural terms also and earlier texts add the mixed gender of the gods.

    I don't know who were these gods but it is doubtful to me that they are the same entity that is part of the universal creative forces that we attribute to God. I tend to think it more likely that they were an advanced civilisation dispersed by the most turbulent effects of post Ice Age glacial melt who, when confronted with vastly inferior primitive humans seemed as gods and reproduced with them to assist in repopulation. I've read that Adam actually came after the flood and was the first of a new type of human. This makes more sense to me.

    No, the translation ‘sons of God’ is the correct one. The Septuagint translation is ‘υἱοὶ τοῦ Θεοῦ, ἀγγέλων Θεοῦ’, the Latin Vulgate ‘filii Dei’.
    ‘Elohim’ was invariably translated as ὁ Θεὸς, Deus. Its plural form was (and still is) explained consistently as designating the Trinity (the plurality in unity which is ‘God’). ‘And God said, Let us make man according to our image and likeness’, καὶ εἶπεν ὁ Θεός· ποιήσωμεν ἄνθρωπον κατ᾿ εἰκόνα ἡμετέραν καὶ καθ᾿ ὁμοίωσιν, et ait faciamus hominem ad imaginem et similitudinem nostram – that’s why God made ‘man’ male and female to be ‘one body’). It has nothing to do with a supposed ‘polytheism’ underlying the text.

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    Your choice of 'Seraphim' as a user name. Unfortunate or just silly. I may as well switch mine to 'Cherubim' ... although the strict Unz mods would likely put a stop to that within a few days.

    I admire (no cynicism) that you have swift access to the Greek Septuagint and Vulgate equivalents.

    Am able to read the latter. The whole is an accretion, you have no way of being sure of your assertion

    It has nothing to do with a supposed ‘polytheism’ underlying the text.
     
    and you make no case for it.

    The several different references to God or the Gods in Genesis are clearly to different entities. It is a syncretism of the time.

    To me, it seems plain that it is there. Whatever contact the ancient Hebrews had with Egypt (almost certainly nothing to do with Exodus or Hollywood depictions), where there was an influence, it was from Amenhotep (forget not, a sun god ). He introduced a near monotheism. An ancient near-east population adopted it, while returning to idolatory many times (Aaron's golden calf, as one of several). The true nature of that population's connection with Egypt is not clear.

    Amen in Christian services remains the Amen of the name of Amenhotep.

    I remain a Christian.
  115. Che Guava says:
    @OilcanFloyd
    You may be right that Mishima was a homosexual, but I did read somewhere that he was bisexual. It's also my understanding that he wanted a return to traditional Japan, and was at odds with the occupation and westernizing influences, even though his own lifestyle was influenced by western culture.

    I haven't read much Japanese literature, but Mishima's way of thinking and writing (maybe it's the translators?) is very unique to me. Maybe his thinking and writing is typical for Japanese? I don't know.

    Part of it, the indirectness, circuitousness, to imply things, it is typical although not universal, Kobo Abe, one of Mishima’s contemporaries, and Marxist-inspired, is similarly or more circuitous at times. Abe was also the inspiration for Haruki Murakami’s (or Makimura, Kamimura, Muramaki, as he joked in one, joke only works with the characters) earlier works.

    If one goes back to the beginning, the Pillow Book of Lady Shonagon and the Tale of Genji by Lady Purple (many scholars with weightier opinions than mine posit that the latter was a man) are full of circuitous ways of expression.

    On the other hand, Junichiro Tanizaki is

    quite direct, as was Yasunari Kawabata, and the man that a nearby hill was named for, Natume Soseki.

    Mishima doesn’t use indirectness so much (though he does) but uses old-fashioned readings and forms of characters, and archaic expressions.

    I recommend any works by any of the above, you will probably finding a few in your local library system.

    Murakami Ryu also had an interesting few, at least two or three translated into English. They are not nice, but express certain realities, worth the reading.

    This a very old-fashioned list, but I see little recent writing to recommend. One of the big trends in publishing in recent years is the ‘light novel’, based on ‘maid cafe’ daydreams behng brought to life.

    Talk about infantilisation!

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  116. Che Guava says:
    @Seraphim
    No, the translation 'sons of God' is the correct one. The Septuagint translation is 'υἱοὶ τοῦ Θεοῦ, ἀγγέλων Θεοῦ', the Latin Vulgate 'filii Dei'.
    'Elohim' was invariably translated as ὁ Θεὸς, Deus. Its plural form was (and still is) explained consistently as designating the Trinity (the plurality in unity which is 'God'). 'And God said, Let us make man according to our image and likeness', καὶ εἶπεν ὁ Θεός· ποιήσωμεν ἄνθρωπον κατ᾿ εἰκόνα ἡμετέραν καὶ καθ᾿ ὁμοίωσιν, et ait faciamus hominem ad imaginem et similitudinem nostram - that's why God made 'man' male and female to be 'one body'). It has nothing to do with a supposed 'polytheism' underlying the text.

    Your choice of ‘Seraphim’ as a user name. Unfortunate or just silly. I may as well switch mine to ‘Cherubim’ … although the strict Unz mods would likely put a stop to that within a few days.

    I admire (no cynicism) that you have swift access to the Greek Septuagint and Vulgate equivalents.

    Am able to read the latter. The whole is an accretion, you have no way of being sure of your assertion

    It has nothing to do with a supposed ‘polytheism’ underlying the text.

    and you make no case for it.

    The several different references to God or the Gods in Genesis are clearly to different entities. It is a syncretism of the time.

    To me, it seems plain that it is there. Whatever contact the ancient Hebrews had with Egypt (almost certainly nothing to do with Exodus or Hollywood depictions), where there was an influence, it was from Amenhotep (forget not, a sun god ). He introduced a near monotheism. An ancient near-east population adopted it, while returning to idolatory many times (Aaron’s golden calf, as one of several). The true nature of that population’s connection with Egypt is not clear.

    Amen in Christian services remains the Amen of the name of Amenhotep.

    I remain a Christian.

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    My friend,

    Swift access to the Septuagint or Vulgate is something that everybody can do on the Net with just a few clicks. But, of course, the access to the 'hermeneutic' of the words is a bit slower, even laborious.
    I can admit that choice of my username might be silly, but I can't see why it is 'unfortunate'. In some parts of the world it is a common, quite frequent, personal and family name. I might switch to a 'juicier' one (like yours perhaps).

  117. Seraphim says:
    @Che Guava
    Your choice of 'Seraphim' as a user name. Unfortunate or just silly. I may as well switch mine to 'Cherubim' ... although the strict Unz mods would likely put a stop to that within a few days.

    I admire (no cynicism) that you have swift access to the Greek Septuagint and Vulgate equivalents.

    Am able to read the latter. The whole is an accretion, you have no way of being sure of your assertion

    It has nothing to do with a supposed ‘polytheism’ underlying the text.
     
    and you make no case for it.

    The several different references to God or the Gods in Genesis are clearly to different entities. It is a syncretism of the time.

    To me, it seems plain that it is there. Whatever contact the ancient Hebrews had with Egypt (almost certainly nothing to do with Exodus or Hollywood depictions), where there was an influence, it was from Amenhotep (forget not, a sun god ). He introduced a near monotheism. An ancient near-east population adopted it, while returning to idolatory many times (Aaron's golden calf, as one of several). The true nature of that population's connection with Egypt is not clear.

    Amen in Christian services remains the Amen of the name of Amenhotep.

    I remain a Christian.

    My friend,

    Swift access to the Septuagint or Vulgate is something that everybody can do on the Net with just a few clicks. But, of course, the access to the ‘hermeneutic’ of the words is a bit slower, even laborious.
    I can admit that choice of my username might be silly, but I can’t see why it is ‘unfortunate’. In some parts of the world it is a common, quite frequent, personal and family name. I might switch to a ‘juicier’ one (like yours perhaps).

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    I wrote a full reply to you, there was nothing rude in it, however the automated part of the Unz site's moderation seems to have thrown it in a drain.

    Work tomorrow, must sleep.
  118. Che Guava says:

    At the end of his wits, he chose to give up his manhood.

    Mr. Shamir, this is not true. The photo that is endlessly run of ‘Chelsea’ Manning was pre-incarceration, I was embarassed on a different site, after commenting on how handsome Manning looked in his uniform, to see that he wanted a ‘sex-change’. Sure, he was mistreated in captivity, and that was a great crime, but the genital mutilation was what he wanted, and petitioned for from within the place.

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  119. Che Guava says:
    @Seraphim
    My friend,

    Swift access to the Septuagint or Vulgate is something that everybody can do on the Net with just a few clicks. But, of course, the access to the 'hermeneutic' of the words is a bit slower, even laborious.
    I can admit that choice of my username might be silly, but I can't see why it is 'unfortunate'. In some parts of the world it is a common, quite frequent, personal and family name. I might switch to a 'juicier' one (like yours perhaps).

    I wrote a full reply to you, there was nothing rude in it, however the automated part of the Unz site’s moderation seems to have thrown it in a drain.

    Work tomorrow, must sleep.

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  120. Che Guava says:

    Actually, it seems more likely that a human ‘moderator’ read my post, disliked a word or two, and threw it away. Since it was wholly polite, it would be nice if that person lost the role.

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    I'd like to know how the moderation works. Do the different bloggers and writers moderate their own blogs and articles? It seems that it's more likely to get comments tossed or held in moderation with some bloggers than with others.
  121. @Che Guava
    Actually, it seems more likely that a human 'moderator' read my post, disliked a word or two, and threw it away. Since it was wholly polite, it would be nice if that person lost the role.

    I’d like to know how the moderation works. Do the different bloggers and writers moderate their own blogs and articles? It seems that it’s more likely to get comments tossed or held in moderation with some bloggers than with others.

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    It's generally good, but it seems to be partly, and imperfectly, automated. Since I almost always post when most of the human mods are asleep, I seem to have fallen afoul of an automatic system on one post.

    Not that my words were so precious, though they did have a little value. Policy here is generally very good. One thing, rate of comments is curtailed, not a bad idea. I have never been concentrating enough to check, but three or four posts on the same thread in an hour or two or three seems to be the trigger for the auto-temp-block.

    The only people really blocked are real pests, but, very occasionally, the automated part dumps a good post, as mine. As I say, no big deal, but I wish I'd saved that post in a text file.

    As I will do with this, my disappeared comment may have been due to the automated part or having commented on how the system here works, or simply clunky operation of the automated parts. Since I had an automated message before my post disappeared. Never having been a mod here, it seems the parts that appear automated are partly so, and partly run by mouse-button pressing, by people who are half-awake to posts in certain time zones.
    , @Che Guava

    Do the different bloggers and writers moderate their own blogs and articles?
     
    That depends on the writer or blogger, they can if they want, in practise, they don't seem to unless a poster is a really boring pest.
  122. Che Guava says:
    @OilcanFloyd
    I'd like to know how the moderation works. Do the different bloggers and writers moderate their own blogs and articles? It seems that it's more likely to get comments tossed or held in moderation with some bloggers than with others.

    It’s generally good, but it seems to be partly, and imperfectly, automated. Since I almost always post when most of the human mods are asleep, I seem to have fallen afoul of an automatic system on one post.

    Not that my words were so precious, though they did have a little value. Policy here is generally very good. One thing, rate of comments is curtailed, not a bad idea. I have never been concentrating enough to check, but three or four posts on the same thread in an hour or two or three seems to be the trigger for the auto-temp-block.

    The only people really blocked are real pests, but, very occasionally, the automated part dumps a good post, as mine. As I say, no big deal, but I wish I’d saved that post in a text file.

    As I will do with this, my disappeared comment may have been due to the automated part or having commented on how the system here works, or simply clunky operation of the automated parts. Since I had an automated message before my post disappeared. Never having been a mod here, it seems the parts that appear automated are partly so, and partly run by mouse-button pressing, by people who are half-awake to posts in certain time zones.

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  123. Che Guava says:
    @OilcanFloyd
    I'd like to know how the moderation works. Do the different bloggers and writers moderate their own blogs and articles? It seems that it's more likely to get comments tossed or held in moderation with some bloggers than with others.

    Do the different bloggers and writers moderate their own blogs and articles?

    That depends on the writer or blogger, they can if they want, in practise, they don’t seem to unless a poster is a really boring pest.

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  124. Look at your birth certificate. Before you were born you didn’t exist. You were a thing in your mother’s womb.

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  125. Alden says:
    @Verymuchalive
    PS Stop pushing your ridiculous website.

    Yes, stop pushing your ridiculous website and writing a post and linking it to the same thing on your so called website.

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  126. Alden says:
    @Seraphim
    Yes, aggelos (read angelos) means messenger. There is substantial divergence in the interpretation of the term 'Sons of God' (bənê hāʼĕlōhîm, בני האלהים).

    One of them is that they represent the offspring of Seth[the third son of Adam]:
    "The Qumran (Dead Sea Scroll) fragment 4Q417 (4QInstruction) contains the earliest known reference to the phrase "children of Seth", stating that God has condemned them for their rebellion. Other early references to the offspring of Seth rebelling from God and mingling with the daughters of Cain, are found in rabbi Shimon bar Yochai, Augustine of Hippo, Julius Africanus, and the Letters attributed to St. Clement. It is also the view expressed in the modern canonical Amharic Ethiopian Orthodox Bible. In Judaism "Sons of God" usually refers to the righteous, ie the children of Seth".(Wikipedia)

    Josephus Flavius evokes the tradition according to what Seth was a virtuous man of excellent character, and reports that his descendants invented the wisdom of the heavenly bodies, and built the "pillars of the sons of Seth", two pillars inscribed with many scientific discoveries and inventions, notably in astronomy.
    This tradition had more currency in Byzantium. The 'Chronicle of John Malalas' quotes Josephus: “Seth’s descendants were god-fearing men and, having foreknowledge of the destruction, or change, that was then to affect mankind, made two tablets, the one of stone and the other of clay.”

    So, they were rather 'spiritual men', the sages, who jeopardized their spiritual advancement by falling into lust.

    Did Cain or Abel birth the daughters of Cain? Which one had ovaries, eggs, a womb, a placenta, a birth canal and a plentiful supply of female hormones.?
    Did he have morning sickness? Was his pelvis wide enough for easy births? Was he able to nurse the babies? Or were the nursing duties turned over to Grandma Eve?
    Inquiring minds want to know.

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  127. Alden says:
    @Anon
    "My Body My Choice"

    OK, a woman has control of her own body.

    But the baby inside her body is not her body. It is another body growing inside her body because a man deposited sperm inside of her.
    The baby didn't grow spontaneously inside her. It was because the man deposited sperm into her. And did the mother create the kid alone or with the input of the father?
    So, the body inside her body is the man's deposit like money in the bank.
    It is not like her arms, legs, etc. It has its individuality and its own arms and legs.

    A woman can CHOOSE not to accept the deposit of the sperm, but once she does so, there is another body inside her, and she can't say it's just a part of her body. After all, the baby keeps growing inside her until it demands separation from her body thru the process of birth.

    Everyone needs to ask, "When I was inside my ma's womb, was that my body or my ma's body?"

    If it is just a part of her body, then it wouldn't seek exit and autonomy. I mean hearts, lungs, and livers don't grow bigger and seek exit from the body. They remain as part of body. But babies inside the womb grow bigger and soon seek 'escape' and autonomy. So, it is not part of the woman's body. It is a proto-autonomous body growing inside the woman's body.

    So, should we ban abortion?

    No, we should allow abortion because a woman who wants to kill her own kid has no business being a mother.
    Also, we should pay black women to kill their babies because, once born, many of them will end up like Al Sharpton or Miss Hell Gorillabama.

    If it weren’t for abortion blacks would be about 35 percent of the population instead of 12 percent and crime would be out of control.
    The courts would be bussing the savages 150 miles a day to destroy rural White schools.
    Do you want that?

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  128. Seraphim says:
    @Alden
    Did Cain or Abel birth the daughters of Cain? Which one had ovaries, eggs, a womb, a placenta, a birth canal and a plentiful supply of female hormones.?
    Did he have morning sickness? Was his pelvis wide enough for easy births? Was he able to nurse the babies? Or were the nursing duties turned over to Grandma Eve?
    Inquiring minds want to know.

    Let me know when you found out.

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