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What’s wrong with gassing your own people? After all, California does it and Oklahoma plans it, and these are fine advanced states. I would not like the Russians to send their howling missiles to Sacramento: they gas their own people. While gassing someone’s else people may be considered a sort of interference in their affairs, gassing of one’s own people is clearly one’s own business. Mind your own business, sir, gas your own.

And if these are beautiful babies that you worry about, why, the US flushes them down the drain, a million beautiful babies a year are ripped out by abortionists. Would you like Vlad Putin to strafe the Planned Parenthood headquarters at 434 West 33rd Street, New York, NY as they kill beautiful babies?

Who are “your own people” is also open for interpretation. A few years ago I went to the funeral of a young Palestinian Christian girl who has been gassed to death by Israelis in her own bedroom in Beit Jalla near Jerusalem (they shot a tear gas bomb into her window). Was she “their own people”? If you say she wasn’t, then, by the same measure, the Jews of Germany weren’t “their own people” for the Germans, and then, Hitler did not “gas his own people” making him a great improvement on Bashar Assad, according to the ADL-authorised version.

Why it is so God-awful to gas people and/or beautiful babies, while frying them with napalm, pouring Agent Orange over them or starving them to death is a proper thing to do. Or nuking them, indeed. Would nuking Nagasaki count as a lesser crime than anything else? If it is a question of aesthetics, I think napalm makes the worst pictures of deep-fried babies as those made in Gaza after Israeli attack. They are so awful that I forbade my Italian publisher to place one of them on the cover of my book. In comparison to them, gas deaths are almost blissful.

For these reasons I do not intend to discuss whether Bashar Assad did, or he didn’t. The story is murky, and the Russians – and the alternative press – had a few mutually contradicting versions Rashomon-like. The whole thing was a false flag cautiously prepared by the rebels and/or Americans; or it was a freak accident, a result of Syrian air force hitting a rebel chemical weapons factory, like the US did a week later; or was it a combination of two, the rebels using the spill to raise hell. Washington is not Kurosawa, and the Trump administration immediately declared they knew what happened before the dust settled, just like Bush and Netanyahu all knew on 9/11. For me it is of little interest: in what way these eighty people died – out of hundreds of thousands who have died in the Middle East wars started by President Bush the Senior and continued by his worthy successors.

The verdict of official Washington is of very little value, after the Kuwaiti incubator baby hoax, the Iraqi WMD of Powell, Libyan atrocities and similar fake news. This boy has cried wolf too often for us to pay attention this time. I do not trust anything the mainstream media tells us, for they proved to be inveterate liars. But who cares even if it were true, when we have heard US State Secretary Madeleine Albright saying it was worth while to kill 500,000 beautiful babies to weaken Iraq?

I would advise you to dismiss this horror story of he-gassed-his-own-people and banish it out of your mind. Who cares? It is just a psy-war against his-own-people, meaning you. Rejecting such stories will restore your ability to judge right. Reject whatever they want you to discuss out of hand and you will regain freedom of mind.

However, the underlying story of Donald’s U-turn is one of the most entertaining and riveting stories that deserves to be looked at. Without unnecessary embellishments (“he saw dead babies”) it is even better. After years of twits against Middle Eastern wars and for friendship with Russia, after going against the establishment and winning, such full surrender is amazing.

It is less amazing if you think of his choice: to be removed from power and locked up in the cellars of Alcatraz or Guantanamo. The CIA and The New York Times with help of the judiciary and the ever-treacherous McCain had plotted to jail or kill Trump, and he saw no other way to save his skin but doing a full Canossa.

Trump had some ambitions, but becoming a martyr hasn’t been one of them. He who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day, he murmured to himself, dumped Bannon and bombed Syria.

It worked like magic. His avowed enemies in Congress and in the media greeted him like a young lad coming out of a cathouse: boy, now you became a man! Now you are a real president! Fareed Zakaria blessed him on CNN: “Donald Trump became President of the United States last night.” The Jews forgot their silly stuff of antisemitism and threw their yarmulkes high in his honour. Mme Clinton stopped sulking and said now she does not regret losing the elections to this fine man. A small deed, but a great reward, Donald could say. If Paris was worth a mass, Washington is worth a strike.

After all, America is an evolved Comanche and Apache tribal union, and the Great White Chief has to have the biggest string of scalps at his belt.

ORDER IT NOW

The Russians weren’t unduly upset. They have tolerated Israeli missile strikes and bombings of Syria all the time; so why would they object now? The Russian line is as follows: we fight the terrorists, we do not fight for Bashar Assad against other forces, be it Israel, Turkey, Kurds or the US or against moderate opposition. Yes, it is unfair to Assad, but this is the Russian attitude, like it or not. They do not intend to fight the whole West, Israel and the Sunni kingdoms. They fight against ISIS, Al Nusra and similar extreme factions of Islamic movement. So Trump’s strike annoyed them, but it did not cross the red line they drew.

The Western media stressed that the Syria strike has been aimed against Putin, first of all, that the intention was to humiliate the Russian ruler. The Russians did not think so. For them it was an affair between Trump and Assad. Putin did not feel humiliated, and that’s why he received State Secretary Rex Tillerson at the Kremlin. He and Mr Lavrov told Tillerson that the US has absolutely zero evidence for their claim; that this event should be investigated; that they do not believe Assad was behind it. Tillerson proposed that the Russians switch sides in Syria, and this proposal was been immediately rejected. Lavrov quickly recapped previous the causes of war in Iraq, Libya and Syria; he reminded them of the proven case of 2013 chemical weapons hoax. Still, they parted without acrimony. Russian-American relations are not worse than they were; mainly due to Putin’s dogged desire to avoid war with the US for as long as he can, preferably for another five or six years at least.

Trump managed the China angle well. He claimed that President Xi expressed his understanding or even approval of the strike. The Chinese deny that, but they did not make too much of it. They abstained at the Security Council vote on Syria, and Russia had to veto it alone. This is a big achievement for the American President, and an unexpected one.

The pundits thought Trump planned to befriend Russia in order to isolate China; surprisingly he used China to isolate Russia. The Russian and the Chinese Presidents should worry about this American gambit more than about the Syrian strike.

Israel has been happy about the strike; Israeli left and right were united on this point, though they offered differing explanations. But then, Israel is happy at any strike at an Arab target. American Jews were happy, too. I wrote of a chasm between liberal Jews and Zionists Donald Trump tried to exploit in his interests. This time he satisfied both factions.

If Trump will be satisfied with this great result, we can say he emerged a winner, and he didn’t even poison his relations with Russia or China. The problem is, he is tempted to repeat this trick with North Korea, and this will be a very costly mistake.

North Koreans, whom I visited last year, are not a soft target like Syria or Iraq. This is the hardest target on the planet. They are used to confrontation with the US. They were born into this confrontation; they grew at the Korean War of 1950s when their country had been devastated by American bombs. Their fathers lived through the Japanese colonisation, and they are determined – never again. They have little love for Americans and for Japanese, and they would like to mete their vengeance on them and on their South Korean stooges. The Japanese and the American soldiers and sailors’ mothers should pray to their gods to restore President Trump to his senses.

If Trump strikes Korea, the Koreans are likely to strike back at the US fleet, the US bases in South Korea and in Okinawa. Probably they will use their nuclear weapons. This is exactly the occasion they prepared their A- and H-bombs for. This is exactly the reason they refused the plans of denuclearisation, and they were right.

A problem with American planning is its repetiousness. They always do the same routine they borrowed from a spaghetti Western. You know, the vigilante calls upon his adversary: release your hostage and drop your gun or I’ll shoot! When the fool drops the gun, the vigilante smiles madly and shoots anyway. It is not a chivalrous approach, but then, American foreign policy is charted by businessmen, not by knights.

In September 2013 Obama threatened Bashar Assad into dropping his gun. Assad gave up his arsenal of chemical weapons, the only thing he could employ against nuclear-armed Israel next door. The Russians (willingly or not) supported this Israeli-American subterfuge. After Assad had voluntarily disarmed, Israel was safe; Assad couldn’t do anything to harm Israel or Americans. Then they accused him of using the chemical weapons he gave up, and attacked him.

The same routine happened in Libya. They threatened Muammar Gadhafi and he gave up his weaponry. He also opened his country for the TNC to buy and operate Libyan oil and gas. They privatised and bought everything they could, and at the end they attacked Libya anyway and killed Gadhafi.

You remember that Saddam Hussein agreed to all American demands, that he opened every door in his country for their inspection, and when they learned he had no WMD, they accused him of possessing WMD, attacked, destroyed his country for good and hanged him. You can’t even call the American foreign policy makers “treacherous”, like you can’t call a cyclone “strong wind”.

The North Koreans had learned this lesson by heart. They are not going to drop their guns, even if the Russians and the Chinese were to beg them on their knees to do it for their sake please. Once, Russia and China were reliable, but it was in the days of Stalin and Mao, they think. Koreans know that nowadays a country has to rely on its own nuclear forces and to be ready to deliver the payload wherever it hurts.

For Iraq and Syria, a nearby spot of enemy’s vulnerability (“the hostage”) was the Jewish state, but they allowed themselves to be convinced to surrender their weapons. For North Korea, the adversary’s vulnerable spots are the US bases, and Japan, an old enemy and the US ally.

ORDER IT NOW

Donald Trump had sent a formidable force to the Korean shores. There are tens of thousands of sailors and soldiers, there are ships, nuke-bearing submarines and air force. Just now the Americans exploded their Mother-Of-All-Bombs in Afghanistan, this poor land they ruined – first, by bringing there Osama bin Laden, then by conquering it, and after all, by turning it into biggest producer of drugs in the world, this ultimate source of CIA’s independent wealth. No doubt, the US can destroy Korea – second time within our lifespan. But they can’t scare the North Koreans into submission. The Koreans can’t be scared.

North Korea has no billionaires ready to serve as an American Fifth Column. They have no ethnic or gender minorities, no culture of critique. Stubborn folk, they will not surrender.

Trump will have to bomb them; kill a million; and perhaps a million Japanese and Americans will be killed by the Korean payback. Trump might have his Pacific Fleet sunk just at the time when the US might need it for future confrontation with China. The Koreans can’t harm the continental US in any case, but Trump’s attack and Korean response may undermine the US naval strength, and then the US will be overrun by the same Mexicans Trump hated so much. Ironic justice, of sorts. Nobody can cause so much damage to the Republic as the President, after all. Is it possible? Yes. Not a sure thing, but a possible one.

It will be an inglorious end for Trump’s career, and quite unnecessary one, too. North Korea threatens nobody; they live their own life in their far-away peninsula. They have nukes to make them a hard target, hard to swallow and digest, not in order to attack. It would be better to forget about them, and to return to the things Trump promised to his voters.

It is still possible; his Syrian strike will be forgotten; Trump has enough time left to eliminate his enemies in the Republican Party, to dismantle the CIA, to create his own militia and to proceed and save America.

However, there is a hitch. Why do so many Americans want to have the world war as they push upon Trump to start it? America is overpopulated, that’s why. There are too many people, and since the Trojan war, a war has been the solution for overcrowding. The forces that bring refugees and immigrants to your shores are the same forces that lead you to war.

My baby-boomer generation came to life after the WWII, and the world welcomed us. We grew in spacious places; we had countryside in which to frolic, and housing had been relatively inexpensive. We could have children, we had something to look for. Now it is crowded everywhere; nature has been destroyed or privatised, even the Dead Sea has been killed.

The US population doubled since 1960; Europe (as well as Russia) added 25%, mainly immigrants, some cities grew much faster: Moscow’s population tripled. Population growth brings war. The Middle East is at war, and it is not only America’s fault, but also of their preoccupation with fertility. The population of Israel, of Palestine, of Syria quadrupled, that of Jordan multiplied by factor of ten, while Lebanon has had it better than most by just doubling its population. Unhappy Aleppo’s population grew six times since 1950s, and naturally there was the civil war. Even after so much death and destruction, Syria today has more people than it ever had, while Israel has no place even to bury its dwellers. Israel is a thousand per cent more crowded (its population density is 1,000 per cent higher) than the OECD average.

Another, less discussed reason is that the means of production improved greatly and now Wall Street and other hard-core liberals think there are too many unneeded people who can’t be employed profitably. Instead of returning industries to the US, it is easier to kill a hundred million of America’s surplus population.

For these reasons the War Party wants to start World War Three, to free space for the coming generations and to get rid of surplus. Perhaps this man with orange hair is an unlikely avatar of Shiva the Destroyer, whose attack on Korea will lay our world waste, and bring in the new spacious world for our sons and daughters – if they will survive the war. And if Korea thing will fail, there are still Russia and China, and sooner or later they will oblige. Unless the liberals who want the world without us will be defeated.

Israel Shamir can be reached at adam@israelshamir.net

This article was first published at The Unz Review.

 
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  1. … by the same measure, the Jews of Germany weren’t “their own people” for the Germans, and then, Hitler did not “gas his own people” making him a great improvement on Bashar Assad, according to the ADL-authorised version

    Hitler & the National Socialists gassed no one and there is no proof they ever did.

    If you start with false premises, everything you subsequently extrapolate from those premises will likewise carry along the original error and thus exhibit error within themselves; aka: garbage in, garbage out.

    We’re talking about an alleged ’6M Jews & 5M others’ … 11,000,000.
    There is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claim of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, 1,250,000 at Auschwitz, or 250,000 at Sobibor) even though Jews claim they still exist and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:

    http://codoh.com

    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

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    • Agree: Amanda
    • Replies: @Joe Wong
    Wally, you should say the ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ is questionable or exaggerated but not 'scientifically impossible frauds'; in the Nanking massacre the barbaric and beastly unrepentant war criminal Japanese had massacred nearly 400,000 just using Samurai swords and bayonets within few weeks without gas chambers, Nazi and its minions were the same breed as the barbaric and beastly unrepentant war criminal Japanese, they were out doing each other in atrocity to fill their wrecked egos, killing ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ in so many years from 1938-1945 is entirely possible, otherwise the Nazi and its minions would be a laughing stock to the barbaric and beastly unrepentant war criminal Japanese.

    The stuff in the forum.codoh.com is the same tricks used by the Japanese to white wash and deny their war crimes and crimes against humanity, questioning the minute details, presenting false evidence, watering down events, outright denial, pointing fingers, accusing victim aggressively, …., the same morally defunct evil propaganda the American is using to wage reckless wars around the world on the moral high ground.
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  2. Donald Trump is simply just one more Jacob Rothschild confidence man, another selfish swindler employed to take and not to give, forever cheating his way through life as he stumbles along the self-serving spiritual path of darkness.

    In 2000 there were seven countries without a Rothschild owned or controlled central bank:

    Afghanistan
    Iraq
    Sudan
    Libya
    Cuba
    North Korea
    Iran

    In 2011 the only countries without a central bank owned or controlled by the Rothschild Family are:

    Cuba
    North Korea
    Iran

    source: https://goo.gl/NxKlZg

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    • Agree: Kiza
    • Replies: @colm
    Cuba is not too far behind now Fidel is dead and Raul is not that young either. Iran is also opening up. North Korea will be the last holdout.
  3. What happened to the Constitution?

    Where is congress? Should not congress constitutionally pass on a new war?

    There absolutely is no imminent threat to America. Therefore, Trump cannot attack on his own!

    Trump would be crazy to start a war with N Korea. What – is he going to kill a million people to stop a non-existent war – a maybe war? Really!

    Trump campaigned as the peace candidate – he does not have the legal or moral grounds to attack N Korea.

    Please – Peace — Art

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  4. Israel has been happy about the strike; Israeli left and right were united on this point, though they offered differing explanations. But then, Israel is happy at any strike at an Arab target.

    Israel is the only happy nation on the planet. Most others have real troubles that they acknowledge.

    How can the Jew populace be happy? Israel holds 1.5 million people in a virtual prison, it walls off people, it summary kills people, it shoots boys and girls who throw rocks, it holds thousands in preventive detention, it uses pain on people at will, it has the most immoral army in the world, and its right-wing politicians have no real liberal opposition. What kind of a nation can ignore all this?

    How can a nation so evil – be so happy?

    The only answer is mental sickness.

    Peace — Art

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    • Replies: @Sherman
    Hey Genius

    "How can a nation so evil - be so happy"?

    Good question.

    Israelis might be happy but they're not as happy as you.

    You're clearly a well-adjusted and content intellectual.

    Peace
    Sherm
  5. There is a lot of stuff wrong right in the beginning of the article.

    First of all, what does abortion have to do with murder? This might be true in the minds of some sick minded people. If abortion is murder, forced pregnancy is rape. And this has nothing to do with fake-progressive, this is just human decency. There are clear rules on abortion and if adhered, it is ok. Ethically, abortion is never a good thing, but it is better than crack babies or babies by women who cannot take care of their kin. From a utilitaristic point of view abortion is one of the hardships we should take to have a better society. Compare those countries who allow abortion in the first trimester and those who prohibit it entirely.

    Second, and not as bad as the first point, “Western” leaders do not have “their own people”. They are not our own leaders. We are lead by brainwashed morons in the name of Anglo exceptionalism and Zionism. These are not our leaders.

    The rest is quite ok. But just because fake-progressivism has turned to support imperialism does not mean that everything of that is now false and shall be dismissed.

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    • Replies: @daniel le mouche
    'Anglo exceptionalism and Zionism'

    That sums it up, thank you.
    As for abortion, Shamir has converted to Christianity, Russian Orthodox I believe, which like Catholicism continues to vehemently oppose abortion. It should be agreed that the abortion issue likely was pushed in the first place by hidden Jewish forces. Shamir is unique almost among anti-abortionists in that he isn't stoutly pro-war too.

    That said, I thought this was a brilliant article.
    , @ussr andy

    Ethically, abortion is never a good thing, but it is better than crack babies or babies by women who cannot take care of their kin.
     
    it's still depraved though. it's just not something a healthy society does en masse. when a sow kills its piglets I imagine they call in a veterinarian - is it too crowded? is the light wrong? is there something in the food? they don't celebrate "porcine choice."
    it's true crack mommas should have that option and it's better for everyone when they do, but it's equally true that societies f**k with biology, nature, at their own peril.
    , @Eustace Tilley (not)
    What is necessary is to abolish medicine itself -- dare we think so boldly? The "conquest" of disease is the root of the population explosion. The abortion "doctor" has to "fix" the "problem" created by the other branches of medicine.

    Betake yourself to an American cemetery with tombstones from the 19th Century. You will see many stones like, "Here Lies Ephraim McCall, Aged 2 1/2 yrs. 'Beloved baby, here you lie/ Innocent beneath the sky/ Cherished by your kith and kin/ Sainted boy who knew not sin'." [Surmounted typically by bas-relief carvings of paired cherubs.]

    Babies (with rare exceptions) really were cherished (let non-historians laugh if they wish). Now roughly 20% of them in the US are a just another overproduced product of the scientific/industrial system. We cling to medicine out of fear: fear of pain and fear of death.

    Technology has made man weak, and has enabled women, weaklings and even degenerates to rule over him. Far better were it to return to the days of Conan the Barbarian (I'm not joking). The more strenuous the environment, the more it calls men to be heroes. From Julius Caesar to Pajama Boy in 2000 years was the work of well-intentioned clever men; not sages and not heroes.

    "The inquisitiveness of men is pure folly." -- Master Etsugen
    "Exterminate learning and there will no longer be worries." -- Lao-tze

    Most will reject these simple, cold, hard, Robinson Jeffers-Wendell Berry-John Zerzan truths for emotional reasons. Few indeed are the philosopher-sages with the hearts of heroes and poets who can stare both death and their own spiritual and intellectual weaknesses in the face without blinking.

    How many men dare stand erect on their own feet, refusing to bow even their heads to the heathen god Asclepius? "I am master of my body and my soul; I, myself, mine own physician, mine own priest."
    , @Justmom
    Abortion is actually killing a baby that was alive so the analogy holds.
    , @CalDre

    First of all, what does abortion have to do with murder? This might be true in the minds of some sick minded people.
     
    So, those who cherish life more than you are "sick minded people"? Interesting. You cannot deny a fetus is human, so you justify the killing of a type of human because it's life means less, if anything, to you.

    Welcome to the world of all mass killers. Many societies have norms where it is acceptable to kill those whom they consider inferior. To you, a fetus is inferior because maybe it is not intelligent enough, or sentient enough (doesn't feel pain, so killing it is OK - which would justify every murder if you just did it painlessly). Well others draw different lines - maybe this person is not smart enough at an older age, maybe that one is not pious enough, that one not young enough; or maybe these others adhere to a different religion (like secular humanism, which seems to be your religion of choice). Who are you to say your judgment about whose life matters more or less is any better than those who pick other victims but cherish the fetus?

    In short, it is easy to justify exterminating the "humans" you consider inferior. But others, who look at a fetus not only see a human with a soul that is not in any spiritual sense inferior, but that he/she has the purest spirit, and this is what counts most. They can judge you like you judge those who kill others who someone (who voluntarily caused the condition in the first place) decides the other is "in the way" or "a burden".

  6. Democracy is the highest achievable human accomplishment. Nothing comes even close. US were lucky, when they got their democracy in the late 1700’s all they had to pay for it in human lives was few thousand killed. They got their democracy on the cheap.

    Today, due to inflationary tendencies, democracy is much more expensive. Look at Iraq for example, few hundred thousands died there, and still they are nowhere near getting a real democracy. At least they died for the right cause. In the 80’s and 90’s Iraqis were dying only to keep their dictator in power. Totally unworthy cause.

    Then the things got better and the purpose much clearer and there was joy everywhere. Finally people were dying for the right reason. Too bad democracy is such a complicated and bulky apparatus. Before they exported it from US, they had to disassemble it and ship it in pieces, and then when they tried to put it together in Iraq – it never worked the way it was supposed.

    I wish the democracy exporters had come up with some clever incentive for the people who sacrificed their lives for it in Iraq. The terrorists, for example, when they blow themselves up – they are promised 72 virgins. Now that’s a really good incentive.

    For democracy martyrs they should offer something similar. Like for example – if you die for democracy, you get to vote in 72 elections or something. Or in democracy heaven you become a candidate yourself and you get 72 man –dates – but this incentive will only work if you are woman or a gay man, for lesbians they’ll have to come up with something else.

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    • Replies: @Anarchyopteryx
    I suggest that you are in error. The political sausage produced by the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia was a representative republic, just ask Benjamin Franklin, providing that we could keep it. It so happened that we couldn't and that was one of the things that was subtly jettisoned in 1865 and during the Reconstruction. We became a "democracy" at the point of a bayonet. It wasn't just a few casualties amongst the revolutionaries, it was the internecine strife ultimately costing more like in excess of 800,000 that was the real human expenditure, not counting maintenance costs owing to political conflicts that we had no business in involvement, a consequence of the imposed "democracy" (the Founders didn't want it - that's why they call democratically elected politicians demagogues???). How many lives have been lost in these political adventure wars? Ours? Theirs? Collateral death?
    Oh yeah, they didn't export it from the US, it was already on the shelf, long disused after the Athenian arrogance.
    , @Lyttenburgh

    Democracy is the highest achievable human accomplishment.
     
    Nah, it your typical cheap mass-produced cig-lighter.
  7. This is a wide ranging piece which is perhaps not entirely coherent.
    However, there are certainly things to agree with:
    “North Korea threatens nobody; they live their own life in their far-away peninsula. They have nukes to make them a hard target, hard to swallow and digest, not in order to attack. It would be better to forget about them, and to return to the things Trump promised to his voters.”
    Yes, let them “rot on the vine”. Or if inaction is too difficult for all the bureaucratic meddlers, someone could try some diplomacy, even if just to reduce NK paranoia (no small task either).
    Nor is author wrong on the question of population: most of the western world – most of the REST of the world -needs no further population increases. Although, the conclusions he draws from this view are (hopefully) not yet concrete:
    “For these reasons the War Party wants to start World War Three, to free space for the coming generations and to get rid of surplus. ”
    And, of course, there is this bit of gargantuan optimism:
    “Trump has enough time left to eliminate his enemies in the Republican Party, to dismantle the CIA, to create his own militia and to proceed and save America.”
    This is the same Trump who, within less than a 100 days has seen “no other way to save his skin” than to make a thorough 180° change in his long held views on foreign policy…. Of course, Trump may have a very–VERY “cunning plan” up his sleeve to confound his many enemies….I wonder how much the author believes that ?

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    • Replies: @utu

    I wonder how much the author believes that ?
     
    I do not think this author's beliefs are of much importance. At least when analyzing his articles. It is all made up and probably he has lots of fun when reading comments finding people who take him seriously. It is all written in a bad faith. He is just fu... with his audience. Not a good man.

    Comparing his output from the recent years with books signed with his name that were published early in I.S. career I often wonder: are we dealing with same person. Is the author suffering from some progressive degenerative brain disease? Or did the ghost writer or the editor who was behind the first books of I.S. die?
  8. Is there even a plan? If so, I don’t think the plan involves invading NK. Just lob some Tomahawks, MOAB them a time or two, and move on. Then, hope that NK sucks it up, takes it like a man, and pray they don’t head south. Who knows if the generals even thought it through? They may just be going through the motions. Does the Don care? I hear there’s chocolate cake for breakfast in the Oval Office, and the weather’s great for golfing in South Florida at this time of the year. PS: if Trump has anything to say about WWIII, it will finish ahead of schedule and come in under budget.

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  9. “What’s wrong with gassing your own people?” The American and the unrepentant war criminal Japanese delight it, they said because you killing your own people so their bombing, killing, torturing and gassing your people is not crime at all, that is why the American and the unrepentant war criminal Japanese continue to commit war crimes, crimes against peace and crimes against humanity unrepentant.

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  10. I’m not sure if Mr Shamir was being facetious when he maintained that large populations cause war – a doubtful theory at best – but the article was superb, with many insights that need to be better publicized.

    Thanks again, Mr Shamir, for another thoughtful piece. Keep writing !

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  11. @Art
    Israel has been happy about the strike; Israeli left and right were united on this point, though they offered differing explanations. But then, Israel is happy at any strike at an Arab target.

    Israel is the only happy nation on the planet. Most others have real troubles that they acknowledge.

    How can the Jew populace be happy? Israel holds 1.5 million people in a virtual prison, it walls off people, it summary kills people, it shoots boys and girls who throw rocks, it holds thousands in preventive detention, it uses pain on people at will, it has the most immoral army in the world, and its right-wing politicians have no real liberal opposition. What kind of a nation can ignore all this?

    How can a nation so evil - be so happy?

    The only answer is mental sickness.

    Peace --- Art

    Hey Genius

    “How can a nation so evil – be so happy”?

    Good question.

    Israelis might be happy but they’re not as happy as you.

    You’re clearly a well-adjusted and content intellectual.

    Peace
    Sherm

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  12. @Serg Derbst
    There is a lot of stuff wrong right in the beginning of the article.

    First of all, what does abortion have to do with murder? This might be true in the minds of some sick minded people. If abortion is murder, forced pregnancy is rape. And this has nothing to do with fake-progressive, this is just human decency. There are clear rules on abortion and if adhered, it is ok. Ethically, abortion is never a good thing, but it is better than crack babies or babies by women who cannot take care of their kin. From a utilitaristic point of view abortion is one of the hardships we should take to have a better society. Compare those countries who allow abortion in the first trimester and those who prohibit it entirely.

    Second, and not as bad as the first point, "Western" leaders do not have "their own people". They are not our own leaders. We are lead by brainwashed morons in the name of Anglo exceptionalism and Zionism. These are not our leaders.

    The rest is quite ok. But just because fake-progressivism has turned to support imperialism does not mean that everything of that is now false and shall be dismissed.

    ‘Anglo exceptionalism and Zionism’

    That sums it up, thank you.
    As for abortion, Shamir has converted to Christianity, Russian Orthodox I believe, which like Catholicism continues to vehemently oppose abortion. It should be agreed that the abortion issue likely was pushed in the first place by hidden Jewish forces. Shamir is unique almost among anti-abortionists in that he isn’t stoutly pro-war too.

    That said, I thought this was a brilliant article.

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  13. @Serg Derbst
    There is a lot of stuff wrong right in the beginning of the article.

    First of all, what does abortion have to do with murder? This might be true in the minds of some sick minded people. If abortion is murder, forced pregnancy is rape. And this has nothing to do with fake-progressive, this is just human decency. There are clear rules on abortion and if adhered, it is ok. Ethically, abortion is never a good thing, but it is better than crack babies or babies by women who cannot take care of their kin. From a utilitaristic point of view abortion is one of the hardships we should take to have a better society. Compare those countries who allow abortion in the first trimester and those who prohibit it entirely.

    Second, and not as bad as the first point, "Western" leaders do not have "their own people". They are not our own leaders. We are lead by brainwashed morons in the name of Anglo exceptionalism and Zionism. These are not our leaders.

    The rest is quite ok. But just because fake-progressivism has turned to support imperialism does not mean that everything of that is now false and shall be dismissed.

    Ethically, abortion is never a good thing, but it is better than crack babies or babies by women who cannot take care of their kin.

    it’s still depraved though. it’s just not something a healthy society does en masse. when a sow kills its piglets I imagine they call in a veterinarian – is it too crowded? is the light wrong? is there something in the food? they don’t celebrate “porcine choice.”
    it’s true crack mommas should have that option and it’s better for everyone when they do, but it’s equally true that societies f**k with biology, nature, at their own peril.

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    most importantly (forgot my point), there _is_ an angle looking at which war and abortion are phenomena of the same order, religious hang-ups or not.
    ......................................
    the feminist schmaltz that goes with organized abortionism is almost as bad as the abortions themselves. and note the mendacity - somehow we're supposed to care about all the 3rd World "specialists" who can't achieve their potential unless let to immigrate into the West and about all the great inventions we're gonna miss out on, but the same argument is shut down when advanced by a social conservative wrt abortion (not all women who abort are crack addicts.)
    ......................................
    sorry, it's not my purpose to derail the discussion, back to Trump & Russia.
  14. April 07, 2017 Pentagon Trained Syria’s Al Qaeda “Rebels” in the Use of Chemical Weapons

    The Western media refutes their own lies.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/pentagon-trained-syrias-al-qaeda-rebels-in-the-use-of-chemical-weapons/5583784

    Mar 22, 2017 Troops Are Awakening to The Deception

    It seems as if none of the other outlets want to report on the fact that troops are awakening to the mass deception.

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  15. @ussr andy

    Ethically, abortion is never a good thing, but it is better than crack babies or babies by women who cannot take care of their kin.
     
    it's still depraved though. it's just not something a healthy society does en masse. when a sow kills its piglets I imagine they call in a veterinarian - is it too crowded? is the light wrong? is there something in the food? they don't celebrate "porcine choice."
    it's true crack mommas should have that option and it's better for everyone when they do, but it's equally true that societies f**k with biology, nature, at their own peril.

    most importantly (forgot my point), there _is_ an angle looking at which war and abortion are phenomena of the same order, religious hang-ups or not.
    ………………………………..
    the feminist schmaltz that goes with organized abortionism is almost as bad as the abortions themselves. and note the mendacity – somehow we’re supposed to care about all the 3rd World “specialists” who can’t achieve their potential unless let to immigrate into the West and about all the great inventions we’re gonna miss out on, but the same argument is shut down when advanced by a social conservative wrt abortion (not all women who abort are crack addicts.)
    ………………………………..
    sorry, it’s not my purpose to derail the discussion, back to Trump & Russia.

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  16. The pundits thought Trump planned to befriend Russia in order to isolate China; surprisingly he used China to isolate Russia.

    Yes, the Chinese abstention from vetoing another Western anti-Assad resolution is one if the most shameful behaviours in the modern history. The crapy mercantilist believe they can save themselves by giving in to the mad idiot instead of standing up with Russia on Syria. I remember that Putin and his team stated twice before the mad idiot’s election that no-one can drive a wedge between Russia and China.

    This just goes to show that China is in the “strategic partnership” just to copy Russian advanced weaponry and put copies on the global market cheaply. Then it is satisfactory that the Chinese are on the same nuclear targeting list as Russia, thus the Chinese whores will cop it together with the Russians even if the whole billion of them keenly licks the madman’s ass.

    Trump disunited them, only to unite them back in the nuclear holocaust.

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  17. Agent76-

    Thanks for posting the video- hope he’s right that the troops are awakening. Also think guys are killing themselves b/c the VA gives them psychotropic poisons from Big Pharma.

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    • Replies: @Agent76
    You are very welcome Amanda, and know this bit of history on North Korea if you do not already know. October 18, 1994 Remarks on the Nuclear Agreement With North Korea William J. Clinton

    Good afternoon. I am pleased that the United States and North Korea yesterday reached agreement on the text of a framework document on North Korea's nuclear program.

    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=49319
  18. @Wally
    " ... by the same measure, the Jews of Germany weren’t “their own people” for the Germans, and then, Hitler did not “gas his own people” making him a great improvement on Bashar Assad, according to the ADL-authorised version"

    Hitler & the National Socialists gassed no one and there is no proof they ever did.

    If you start with false premises, everything you subsequently extrapolate from those premises will likewise carry along the original error and thus exhibit error within themselves; aka: garbage in, garbage out.

    We're talking about an alleged '6M Jews & 5M others' ... 11,000,000.
    There is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claim of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, 1,250,000 at Auschwitz, or 250,000 at Sobibor) even though Jews claim they still exist and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com

    Wally, you should say the ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ is questionable or exaggerated but not ‘scientifically impossible frauds’; in the Nanking massacre the barbaric and beastly unrepentant war criminal Japanese had massacred nearly 400,000 just using Samurai swords and bayonets within few weeks without gas chambers, Nazi and its minions were the same breed as the barbaric and beastly unrepentant war criminal Japanese, they were out doing each other in atrocity to fill their wrecked egos, killing ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ in so many years from 1938-1945 is entirely possible, otherwise the Nazi and its minions would be a laughing stock to the barbaric and beastly unrepentant war criminal Japanese.

    The stuff in the forum.codoh.com is the same tricks used by the Japanese to white wash and deny their war crimes and crimes against humanity, questioning the minute details, presenting false evidence, watering down events, outright denial, pointing fingers, accusing victim aggressively, …., the same morally defunct evil propaganda the American is using to wage reckless wars around the world on the moral high ground.

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    • Replies: @CalDre

    Nazi and its minions were the same breed as the barbaric and beastly unrepentant war criminal Japanese, they were out doing each other in atrocity to fill their wrecked egos, killing ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ in so many years from 1938-1945 is entirely possible
     
    Except the Holohoax claim is that the death campaign did not commence until 1942, after (according to the Holohoaxers) the"extermination decision" was reached at the Wannsee Conference held in Jan. 1942 (which, however, reached no such decision; indeed Germany's war industry was utterly dependent on the Jewish laborers in the camps to produce munitions and other war materials).

    Nazi and its minions would be a laughing stock to the barbaric and beastly unrepentant war criminal Japanese
     
    LOL, how to respond to such utter absurdity? Whatever barbarity there was in WW II was shared on all sides. Wasn't it the US that firebombed Tokyo and other cities, and nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki, murdering millions of civilians in cold blood? Wasn't it the US/UK that firebombed Hamburg, Dresden, Cologne and countless other cities, murdering millions of civilians? And we need not get into the massive crimes of Stalin.

    Also the Holohoaxers always forget that the International Red Cross has constant access to all of Germany's camps throughout their existence. In 1946, after war's end, the Red Cross published a mammoth treatise on the camps. Not a single mention of gassings or mass killings. Of course, this led to accusations of "anti-semitism" by the Holohoaxer crowd ... But IRC has NOT backed down in all the years since.

    , @Wally
    "The stuff in the forum.codoh.com is the same tricks used by the Japanese ...."

    Say what?

    What tricks do you see at forum.codoh.com ?

    IOW, you cannot prove the impossible claims of the 'holocau$t' and have simply become unhinged.

    See the impossible & laughable 'Nazi gas chambers' debunked here:
    Cyanide Chemistry at Auschwitz
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4111


    We're talking about an alleged '6M Jews & 5M others' ... 11,000,000.
    There is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claims of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, 1,250,000 at Auschwitz, or 250,000 at Sobibor) even though Jews claim they still exist and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.
     
    , @Joe Levantine
    Yes you can kill millions in matter of years but only the forensic evidence can prove or disprove the act. The Turks killed between a million to a million an had Armenians and the massacre sites are very well known and can be excavated anytime to prove the story.
    The problem with the Holocaust is that the body trail does not exist. It is said that all cadavers were burnt. Then let someone show us the industrial plan that was executed by the Germans to burn these millions of bodies. Fred Lucer, the nerdy unbiased non political expert sent to Aushwitz stated that the whole incinerators capacity was about 20 bodies a day based on Eight incinerators with a time to burn one body between 10 to 18 hours. Moreover the sign at Aushwitz that once stated that 4 million Jews perished there was changed to 1.5 million.
    I do not seek to discredit the Haulocaust story nor do I seek to confirm it, but would anyone engage my confused mind about this controversy in a meaningful way?
  19. My second and last comment on this article, which I did not quite like because of its occasional gallows humor, is as follows.

    When Russia “helped” Assad get rid of its only deterant against US/Israeli aggression, I wrote at the time that it is now a Russian duty to cover Syria with a complete air defence umbrella. Otherwise, all Russian posturing as peacemakers would turn out to be at the expense of the poor miserable Syrians. Instead, the Russians gave them only one obsolete version of S300 system. It took regular Israel bombing of SAA and a 59 missile salvo from the Israeli puppets to realise the necessity of such air defence umbrella. Why are the Russians so reactive when it has been obvious that US/Israel always abuse the disarmament of their victims, as Shamir nicely illustrates?

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  20. @Serg Derbst
    There is a lot of stuff wrong right in the beginning of the article.

    First of all, what does abortion have to do with murder? This might be true in the minds of some sick minded people. If abortion is murder, forced pregnancy is rape. And this has nothing to do with fake-progressive, this is just human decency. There are clear rules on abortion and if adhered, it is ok. Ethically, abortion is never a good thing, but it is better than crack babies or babies by women who cannot take care of their kin. From a utilitaristic point of view abortion is one of the hardships we should take to have a better society. Compare those countries who allow abortion in the first trimester and those who prohibit it entirely.

    Second, and not as bad as the first point, "Western" leaders do not have "their own people". They are not our own leaders. We are lead by brainwashed morons in the name of Anglo exceptionalism and Zionism. These are not our leaders.

    The rest is quite ok. But just because fake-progressivism has turned to support imperialism does not mean that everything of that is now false and shall be dismissed.

    What is necessary is to abolish medicine itself — dare we think so boldly? The “conquest” of disease is the root of the population explosion. The abortion “doctor” has to “fix” the “problem” created by the other branches of medicine.

    Betake yourself to an American cemetery with tombstones from the 19th Century. You will see many stones like, “Here Lies Ephraim McCall, Aged 2 1/2 yrs. ‘Beloved baby, here you lie/ Innocent beneath the sky/ Cherished by your kith and kin/ Sainted boy who knew not sin’.” [Surmounted typically by bas-relief carvings of paired cherubs.]

    Babies (with rare exceptions) really were cherished (let non-historians laugh if they wish). Now roughly 20% of them in the US are a just another overproduced product of the scientific/industrial system. We cling to medicine out of fear: fear of pain and fear of death.

    Technology has made man weak, and has enabled women, weaklings and even degenerates to rule over him. Far better were it to return to the days of Conan the Barbarian (I’m not joking). The more strenuous the environment, the more it calls men to be heroes. From Julius Caesar to Pajama Boy in 2000 years was the work of well-intentioned clever men; not sages and not heroes.

    “The inquisitiveness of men is pure folly.” — Master Etsugen
    “Exterminate learning and there will no longer be worries.” — Lao-tze

    Most will reject these simple, cold, hard, Robinson Jeffers-Wendell Berry-John Zerzan truths for emotional reasons. Few indeed are the philosopher-sages with the hearts of heroes and poets who can stare both death and their own spiritual and intellectual weaknesses in the face without blinking.

    How many men dare stand erect on their own feet, refusing to bow even their heads to the heathen god Asclepius? “I am master of my body and my soul; I, myself, mine own physician, mine own priest.”

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    I love it! A true looney!

    'Far better were it to return to the days of Conan the Barbarian (I’m not joking).'

    Somehow I believe you.

    'From Julius Caesar to Pajama Boy in 2000 years was the work of well-intentioned clever men; not sages and not heroes.'

    (???)

    “Exterminate learning and there will no longer be worries.” — Lao-tze

    Ah, the ol' proto-fascist. But is it even true? Of course not! And even the very brave Indians had medicine, and probably worried sometimes too.

    'Most will reject these simple, cold, hard, Robinson Jeffers-Wendell Berry-John Zerzan truths for emotional reasons.'

    The endlessly pernicious influence of the little professor, Nietzsche, who liked to pretend play he was a great imaginary god/king, Zarathustra. Between him and Hemingway, also a pretended personna, many 'top artists' and 'great poets' have oozed their way onward and upward. But you forgot Bukowski!

    'Few indeed are the philosopher-sages with the hearts of heroes and poets who can stare both death and their own spiritual and intellectual weaknesses in the face without blinking. '

    Of course, a real psychopath/goon is one who stares everything down without blinking. I mean poet/philosopher.
  21. @Joe Wong
    Wally, you should say the ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ is questionable or exaggerated but not 'scientifically impossible frauds'; in the Nanking massacre the barbaric and beastly unrepentant war criminal Japanese had massacred nearly 400,000 just using Samurai swords and bayonets within few weeks without gas chambers, Nazi and its minions were the same breed as the barbaric and beastly unrepentant war criminal Japanese, they were out doing each other in atrocity to fill their wrecked egos, killing ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ in so many years from 1938-1945 is entirely possible, otherwise the Nazi and its minions would be a laughing stock to the barbaric and beastly unrepentant war criminal Japanese.

    The stuff in the forum.codoh.com is the same tricks used by the Japanese to white wash and deny their war crimes and crimes against humanity, questioning the minute details, presenting false evidence, watering down events, outright denial, pointing fingers, accusing victim aggressively, …., the same morally defunct evil propaganda the American is using to wage reckless wars around the world on the moral high ground.

    Nazi and its minions were the same breed as the barbaric and beastly unrepentant war criminal Japanese, they were out doing each other in atrocity to fill their wrecked egos, killing ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ in so many years from 1938-1945 is entirely possible

    Except the Holohoax claim is that the death campaign did not commence until 1942, after (according to the Holohoaxers) the”extermination decision” was reached at the Wannsee Conference held in Jan. 1942 (which, however, reached no such decision; indeed Germany’s war industry was utterly dependent on the Jewish laborers in the camps to produce munitions and other war materials).

    Nazi and its minions would be a laughing stock to the barbaric and beastly unrepentant war criminal Japanese

    LOL, how to respond to such utter absurdity? Whatever barbarity there was in WW II was shared on all sides. Wasn’t it the US that firebombed Tokyo and other cities, and nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki, murdering millions of civilians in cold blood? Wasn’t it the US/UK that firebombed Hamburg, Dresden, Cologne and countless other cities, murdering millions of civilians? And we need not get into the massive crimes of Stalin.

    Also the Holohoaxers always forget that the International Red Cross has constant access to all of Germany’s camps throughout their existence. In 1946, after war’s end, the Red Cross published a mammoth treatise on the camps. Not a single mention of gassings or mass killings. Of course, this led to accusations of “anti-semitism” by the Holohoaxer crowd … But IRC has NOT backed down in all the years since.

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    Except the Holohoax claim is that the death campaign did not commence until 1942, after (according to the Holohoaxers) the”extermination decision” was reached at the Wannsee Conference held in Jan. 1942
     
    No one claims these things. Jews were being killed in the USSR in huge numbers before Wannsee, which was a coordinating meeting at which no actual decisions about the Final Solution were made.

    (which, however, reached no such decision; indeed Germany’s war industry was utterly dependent on the Jewish laborers in the camps to produce munitions and other war materials).
     
    So what then would be done with Jewish children, the elderly, pregnant women, etc.?
    , @Joe Wong

    Whatever barbarity there was in WW II was shared on all sides.
     
    You are muddying water to legitimize the war crimes and crimes against humanity committed by the war criminals. Only the West committed the barbarity in your claim, and Japanese is considered an honorary White despite an unnormal one, so they behaved like the West and committed barbarity, war crimes and crimes against humanity without repent in order to be one-of-us in the West/White group.

    The Japanese is an unrepentant war criminal, they have been using the techniques used in forum.codoh.com to white wash and deny their war crimes and crimes against humanity, such as questioning the minute details, presenting false evidence, watering down events, outright denial, pointing fingers, accusing victim aggressively, …., the same morally defunct evil propaganda the American is using to wage reckless wars around the world on the moral high ground.
  22. The author states that it is not important to know whether Assad did or did not use chemical weapons. By leaving the question open and further stating that if he did it he would be no different than other leaders (all examples of leaders with bad reputations), it raises a doubt about Assad’s conduct where there should be no doubt. I have not seen any evidence or any logical explanation pointing to Assad’s use of chemical weapons. In this respect I consider this article as disinformation since many people will justify his removal and attacks on Syria if they believe that he may have used chemical weapons.

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    • Replies: @RobinG
    Quite right, thank you.

    Also on the list of irresponsible, back-handed regime-changers are pie-in-the-sky and all-are-to-blame types like 'Holier than thou' David Swanson, and Medea Benjamin whose raving and ranting against Gaddafi quelled any resistance to Killary's criminal no-fly zone.

    There are plenty more examples among the 'progressives.'
  23. @Eustace Tilley (not)
    What is necessary is to abolish medicine itself -- dare we think so boldly? The "conquest" of disease is the root of the population explosion. The abortion "doctor" has to "fix" the "problem" created by the other branches of medicine.

    Betake yourself to an American cemetery with tombstones from the 19th Century. You will see many stones like, "Here Lies Ephraim McCall, Aged 2 1/2 yrs. 'Beloved baby, here you lie/ Innocent beneath the sky/ Cherished by your kith and kin/ Sainted boy who knew not sin'." [Surmounted typically by bas-relief carvings of paired cherubs.]

    Babies (with rare exceptions) really were cherished (let non-historians laugh if they wish). Now roughly 20% of them in the US are a just another overproduced product of the scientific/industrial system. We cling to medicine out of fear: fear of pain and fear of death.

    Technology has made man weak, and has enabled women, weaklings and even degenerates to rule over him. Far better were it to return to the days of Conan the Barbarian (I'm not joking). The more strenuous the environment, the more it calls men to be heroes. From Julius Caesar to Pajama Boy in 2000 years was the work of well-intentioned clever men; not sages and not heroes.

    "The inquisitiveness of men is pure folly." -- Master Etsugen
    "Exterminate learning and there will no longer be worries." -- Lao-tze

    Most will reject these simple, cold, hard, Robinson Jeffers-Wendell Berry-John Zerzan truths for emotional reasons. Few indeed are the philosopher-sages with the hearts of heroes and poets who can stare both death and their own spiritual and intellectual weaknesses in the face without blinking.

    How many men dare stand erect on their own feet, refusing to bow even their heads to the heathen god Asclepius? "I am master of my body and my soul; I, myself, mine own physician, mine own priest."

    I love it! A true looney!

    ‘Far better were it to return to the days of Conan the Barbarian (I’m not joking).’

    Somehow I believe you.

    ‘From Julius Caesar to Pajama Boy in 2000 years was the work of well-intentioned clever men; not sages and not heroes.’

    (???)

    “Exterminate learning and there will no longer be worries.” — Lao-tze

    Ah, the ol’ proto-fascist. But is it even true? Of course not! And even the very brave Indians had medicine, and probably worried sometimes too.

    ‘Most will reject these simple, cold, hard, Robinson Jeffers-Wendell Berry-John Zerzan truths for emotional reasons.’

    The endlessly pernicious influence of the little professor, Nietzsche, who liked to pretend play he was a great imaginary god/king, Zarathustra. Between him and Hemingway, also a pretended personna, many ‘top artists’ and ‘great poets’ have oozed their way onward and upward. But you forgot Bukowski!

    ‘Few indeed are the philosopher-sages with the hearts of heroes and poets who can stare both death and their own spiritual and intellectual weaknesses in the face without blinking. ‘

    Of course, a real psychopath/goon is one who stares everything down without blinking. I mean poet/philosopher.

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  24. Robert Oppenheimer was the first to invoke Shiva in relations to what the good doctor here has suggested… “Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds”. May the G-D of the Middle East help prevent the Dance of Death by a Hindu Deity!

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  25. @Amanda
    Agent76-

    Thanks for posting the video- hope he's right that the troops are awakening. Also think guys are killing themselves b/c the VA gives them psychotropic poisons from Big Pharma.

    You are very welcome Amanda, and know this bit of history on North Korea if you do not already know. October 18, 1994 Remarks on the Nuclear Agreement With North Korea William J. Clinton

    Good afternoon. I am pleased that the United States and North Korea yesterday reached agreement on the text of a framework document on North Korea’s nuclear program.

    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=49319

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  26. @Joe Wong
    Wally, you should say the ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ is questionable or exaggerated but not 'scientifically impossible frauds'; in the Nanking massacre the barbaric and beastly unrepentant war criminal Japanese had massacred nearly 400,000 just using Samurai swords and bayonets within few weeks without gas chambers, Nazi and its minions were the same breed as the barbaric and beastly unrepentant war criminal Japanese, they were out doing each other in atrocity to fill their wrecked egos, killing ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ in so many years from 1938-1945 is entirely possible, otherwise the Nazi and its minions would be a laughing stock to the barbaric and beastly unrepentant war criminal Japanese.

    The stuff in the forum.codoh.com is the same tricks used by the Japanese to white wash and deny their war crimes and crimes against humanity, questioning the minute details, presenting false evidence, watering down events, outright denial, pointing fingers, accusing victim aggressively, …., the same morally defunct evil propaganda the American is using to wage reckless wars around the world on the moral high ground.

    “The stuff in the forum.codoh.com is the same tricks used by the Japanese ….”

    Say what?

    What tricks do you see at forum.codoh.com ?

    IOW, you cannot prove the impossible claims of the ‘holocau$t’ and have simply become unhinged.

    See the impossible & laughable ‘Nazi gas chambers’ debunked here:
    Cyanide Chemistry at Auschwitz

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4111

    We’re talking about an alleged ’6M Jews & 5M others’ … 11,000,000.
    There is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claims of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, 1,250,000 at Auschwitz, or 250,000 at Sobibor) even though Jews claim they still exist and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.

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  27. @Joe Wong
    Wally, you should say the ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ is questionable or exaggerated but not 'scientifically impossible frauds'; in the Nanking massacre the barbaric and beastly unrepentant war criminal Japanese had massacred nearly 400,000 just using Samurai swords and bayonets within few weeks without gas chambers, Nazi and its minions were the same breed as the barbaric and beastly unrepentant war criminal Japanese, they were out doing each other in atrocity to fill their wrecked egos, killing ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ in so many years from 1938-1945 is entirely possible, otherwise the Nazi and its minions would be a laughing stock to the barbaric and beastly unrepentant war criminal Japanese.

    The stuff in the forum.codoh.com is the same tricks used by the Japanese to white wash and deny their war crimes and crimes against humanity, questioning the minute details, presenting false evidence, watering down events, outright denial, pointing fingers, accusing victim aggressively, …., the same morally defunct evil propaganda the American is using to wage reckless wars around the world on the moral high ground.

    Yes you can kill millions in matter of years but only the forensic evidence can prove or disprove the act. The Turks killed between a million to a million an had Armenians and the massacre sites are very well known and can be excavated anytime to prove the story.
    The problem with the Holocaust is that the body trail does not exist. It is said that all cadavers were burnt. Then let someone show us the industrial plan that was executed by the Germans to burn these millions of bodies. Fred Lucer, the nerdy unbiased non political expert sent to Aushwitz stated that the whole incinerators capacity was about 20 bodies a day based on Eight incinerators with a time to burn one body between 10 to 18 hours. Moreover the sign at Aushwitz that once stated that 4 million Jews perished there was changed to 1.5 million.
    I do not seek to discredit the Haulocaust story nor do I seek to confirm it, but would anyone engage my confused mind about this controversy in a meaningful way?

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    • Replies: @Anon
    I'll take your questions one at a time, if you like.
  28. What if Trump was playing the long con with Putin all along? He wanted him to help against Hillary, so the Russians ‘hacked’ the election for him (by propping up alt media against the totally pro-Hillary MSM, releasing the emails etc.) but never wanted to be BFF’s with Putin afterwards.

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  29. @wayfarer
    Donald Trump is simply just one more Jacob Rothschild confidence man, another selfish swindler employed to take and not to give, forever cheating his way through life as he stumbles along the self-serving spiritual path of darkness.

    In 2000 there were seven countries without a Rothschild owned or controlled central bank:

    Afghanistan
    Iraq
    Sudan
    Libya
    Cuba
    North Korea
    Iran

    In 2011 the only countries without a central bank owned or controlled by the Rothschild Family are:

    Cuba
    North Korea
    Iran

    source: https://goo.gl/NxKlZg

    Cuba is not too far behind now Fidel is dead and Raul is not that young either. Iran is also opening up. North Korea will be the last holdout.

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  30. @alex2o2
    The author states that it is not important to know whether Assad did or did not use chemical weapons. By leaving the question open and further stating that if he did it he would be no different than other leaders (all examples of leaders with bad reputations), it raises a doubt about Assad’s conduct where there should be no doubt. I have not seen any evidence or any logical explanation pointing to Assad’s use of chemical weapons. In this respect I consider this article as disinformation since many people will justify his removal and attacks on Syria if they believe that he may have used chemical weapons.

    Quite right, thank you.

    Also on the list of irresponsible, back-handed regime-changers are pie-in-the-sky and all-are-to-blame types like ‘Holier than thou’ David Swanson, and Medea Benjamin whose raving and ranting against Gaddafi quelled any resistance to Killary’s criminal no-fly zone.

    There are plenty more examples among the ‘progressives.’

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  31. Israel Shamir seems disingenuous here. As he should well know, the ‘chemical attack’ absurdly ascribed to Assad is 100% definitely false flag -

    Above all because of the most-censored story of the season, how a distinguished group of Swedish doctors showed that the George Clooney & Western-backed ‘White Helmets’ in fact made a snuff film actually murdering children of this ‘chemical attack’ … anyone can invite the medical physicians they know to view this, to see the Swedish Doctors for Human Rights are absolutely correct in their accusations:

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/04/06/swedish-medical-associations-says-white-helmets-murdered-kids-for-fake-gas-attack-videos/

    For a good overview of the many wider points making clear the false flag, Aangirfan does an excellent job here as she very often does:

    http://aanirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2017/04/trump-at-war-with-assad-and-putin.html

    Another point where Shamir seems disingenuous, is a matter he himself has touched upon in other pieces but only lightly, the key role of the Mossad-tied & Jewish-supremacist Chabad group, which closely bonds the current White House to the Kremlin, & seems part of the background as to why in these awful times, Russia’s glossy media is not daring to tell the truth about matters such as the White Helmets murdering Syrian children as part of the false-flag ‘Syria chemical attack’.

    The USA Deep State now seems to operate through Donald Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner, who along with Ivanka attends Chabad TheShul in Washington DC a few paces from their house, alongside Obama’s Jacob Lew, Israeli embassy officials etc … whilst ‘Putin’s rabbi’ in Moscow is US-trained Berel Lazar of Chabad, Putin letting Mossad’s Chabad take over 80% of Russian Jewish property etc. Israeli press sells a story that Putin loves Jews & Israel & Mossad’s Chabad, because Putin had a Hasidic Jewish high school wrestling-judo coach, Anatoly Rakhlin, who gave Putin hot meals when Putin’s parents were working … some Russians say Putin may be Jewish himself, his genealogy mysteriously scrubbed tho Putin’s grand-father cooked for Lenin … But in any case we have Putin & Trump-Kushner as linked Chabadniks & Mossadniks

    Trump just gave a weekend address where he seemed drugged & threatened, zombie-like, talking more of Jewish Passover than Easter, Trump’s tongue slipping to speak of ‘… Jewish families *accurse* America …’ – As Trump’s feeling-betrayed voters try to understand Trump’s flip-flop, it is widely thought Trump has been blackmailed-threatened with murder, & they share this funny-but-might-be-true photo … Trump’s tormented face from this video, a rifle barrel off to the side pointing at him, & caption with Donald Trump saying ‘Happy Passover … Psst Help Me They’re Gonna Kill Me’:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2a08e9c871ceb69f30c4fdeb633e84a1b43c23bf2e3367d5f921b090e2fbdfd6.jpg?w=800&h=421

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    Russia’s glossy media is not daring to tell the truth about matters such as the White Helmets murdering Syrian children as part of the false-flag ‘Syria chemical attack’
     
    Few days ago I wrote about why Russia's media are so inept and indolent in confrontation in Anglo-Zio machine.

    Where is Russia’s propaganda machine? 71 years old, retired American professors does amateurish analysis using one pict obtained from social media and Sputnik and Russia Today will publish it, right? But where are the Russians? What did they do to support the belief that the gas attack was a false flag? Apparently nothing. Lavrov calls for UN investigation. That’s about all. But what about the assets they have in Syria? Couldn’t they release some information pointing to the real culprits?

    Why Russia’s media are so pathetically weak? For some years already I follow some Russian media outfits and I am amazed why they are so inept and indolent. Their approach is totally inadequate when targeted with Anglo-Zio media aggressive anti-Russia narratives.

    This time when Russia and Putin were smacked in the face in Syria the best Russia came up with was to claim that it did not hurt that much, that only 23 out of 59 missiles reached the target and that the damage to the airport was minimal. And next day they doubled down on it by having planes taking off from the airport. Whether the claims are factual or not it does not matter. The opposite approach should have be used: exaggerate the pain and loss you have suffered. Keep showing dead bodies and damage even if invented. Do not pretend that it rains when they are spitting in your face. Show your hurt, your weakness. Be more like Anglo-Zio propaganda that will accuse every drop a real rain of aggressive intent or even of being anti-semitic. Be proactive not reactive.

    So why Russia’s propaganda machine is so weak? Is it because Russians are proud people or that their journalists and propagandists have moral scruples and won’t engage in lies and manipulations? Obviously not. They just do not know because they are conditioned by the working of propaganda in the authoritarian regime just like during Tsars and Bolsheviks. In the authoritarian regime the chief objective of propaganda is to convince the subjects of the regime that the regime knows what it is doing and that it is strong. The propaganda is not really directed for the foreign enemies but for the domestic friends. For this reason any setbacks or losses will be hidden from the populace or minimized. No disasters and no catastrophes ever happened in the Soviet Union if you just read Pravda or Izvestia. Towards the end of WWII Goebbels was disappointed with inability of German propaganda to produce sympathy around the world for Germans suffering due to American and British bombing of German civilian population that was killing children women, and elders. But this was a consequence of years of hiding these losses from German population because the regime wanted to project its strengths. And that was a mistake. So if Russia wants to confront Anglo-Zio media they must shape up and change the approach. So far they are failing though I am sure they are doing a wonderful job for people like Smoothie (if you ask him) and other clumsy and ineffective agents of influence on behalf of Russia.

    I wonder whether Putin and Lavrov still are using the laughable phrase "our Western/American partners."

  32. @Serg Derbst
    There is a lot of stuff wrong right in the beginning of the article.

    First of all, what does abortion have to do with murder? This might be true in the minds of some sick minded people. If abortion is murder, forced pregnancy is rape. And this has nothing to do with fake-progressive, this is just human decency. There are clear rules on abortion and if adhered, it is ok. Ethically, abortion is never a good thing, but it is better than crack babies or babies by women who cannot take care of their kin. From a utilitaristic point of view abortion is one of the hardships we should take to have a better society. Compare those countries who allow abortion in the first trimester and those who prohibit it entirely.

    Second, and not as bad as the first point, "Western" leaders do not have "their own people". They are not our own leaders. We are lead by brainwashed morons in the name of Anglo exceptionalism and Zionism. These are not our leaders.

    The rest is quite ok. But just because fake-progressivism has turned to support imperialism does not mean that everything of that is now false and shall be dismissed.

    Abortion is actually killing a baby that was alive so the analogy holds.

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  33. Jared Kushner: A trust-fund billionaire baby gangster, within America’s White House

    source: https://www.sott.net/article/348461-The-controversy-of-Jared-Kushner-A-suspected-gangster-within-the-Trump-White-House

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    Jared Kushner: A trust-fund billionaire baby gangster, within America’s White House

    How does a 30-year-old inherit a mega fortune from a father that is living?

    His father is an x- convict - hmm is bad daddy is still running the money.

    Wonder how the IRS worked it out, that they could retain their mega wealth?
  34. @animalogic
    This is a wide ranging piece which is perhaps not entirely coherent.
    However, there are certainly things to agree with:
    "North Korea threatens nobody; they live their own life in their far-away peninsula. They have nukes to make them a hard target, hard to swallow and digest, not in order to attack. It would be better to forget about them, and to return to the things Trump promised to his voters."
    Yes, let them "rot on the vine". Or if inaction is too difficult for all the bureaucratic meddlers, someone could try some diplomacy, even if just to reduce NK paranoia (no small task either).
    Nor is author wrong on the question of population: most of the western world - most of the REST of the world -needs no further population increases. Although, the conclusions he draws from this view are (hopefully) not yet concrete:
    "For these reasons the War Party wants to start World War Three, to free space for the coming generations and to get rid of surplus. "
    And, of course, there is this bit of gargantuan optimism:
    "Trump has enough time left to eliminate his enemies in the Republican Party, to dismantle the CIA, to create his own militia and to proceed and save America."
    This is the same Trump who, within less than a 100 days has seen "no other way to save his skin" than to make a thorough 180° change in his long held views on foreign policy.... Of course, Trump may have a very--VERY "cunning plan" up his sleeve to confound his many enemies....I wonder how much the author believes that ?

    I wonder how much the author believes that ?

    I do not think this author’s beliefs are of much importance. At least when analyzing his articles. It is all made up and probably he has lots of fun when reading comments finding people who take him seriously. It is all written in a bad faith. He is just fu… with his audience. Not a good man.

    Comparing his output from the recent years with books signed with his name that were published early in I.S. career I often wonder: are we dealing with same person. Is the author suffering from some progressive degenerative brain disease? Or did the ghost writer or the editor who was behind the first books of I.S. die?

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  35. @Brabantian
    Israel Shamir seems disingenuous here. As he should well know, the 'chemical attack' absurdly ascribed to Assad is 100% definitely false flag -

    Above all because of the most-censored story of the season, how a distinguished group of Swedish doctors showed that the George Clooney & Western-backed 'White Helmets' in fact made a snuff film actually murdering children of this 'chemical attack' ... anyone can invite the medical physicians they know to view this, to see the Swedish Doctors for Human Rights are absolutely correct in their accusations:
    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/04/06/swedish-medical-associations-says-white-helmets-murdered-kids-for-fake-gas-attack-videos/

    For a good overview of the many wider points making clear the false flag, Aangirfan does an excellent job here as she very often does:
    http://aanirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2017/04/trump-at-war-with-assad-and-putin.html

    Another point where Shamir seems disingenuous, is a matter he himself has touched upon in other pieces but only lightly, the key role of the Mossad-tied & Jewish-supremacist Chabad group, which closely bonds the current White House to the Kremlin, & seems part of the background as to why in these awful times, Russia's glossy media is not daring to tell the truth about matters such as the White Helmets murdering Syrian children as part of the false-flag 'Syria chemical attack'.

    The USA Deep State now seems to operate through Donald Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner, who along with Ivanka attends Chabad TheShul in Washington DC a few paces from their house, alongside Obama's Jacob Lew, Israeli embassy officials etc ... whilst 'Putin's rabbi' in Moscow is US-trained Berel Lazar of Chabad, Putin letting Mossad's Chabad take over 80% of Russian Jewish property etc. Israeli press sells a story that Putin loves Jews & Israel & Mossad's Chabad, because Putin had a Hasidic Jewish high school wrestling-judo coach, Anatoly Rakhlin, who gave Putin hot meals when Putin's parents were working ... some Russians say Putin may be Jewish himself, his genealogy mysteriously scrubbed tho Putin's grand-father cooked for Lenin ... But in any case we have Putin & Trump-Kushner as linked Chabadniks & Mossadniks

    Trump just gave a weekend address where he seemed drugged & threatened, zombie-like, talking more of Jewish Passover than Easter, Trump's tongue slipping to speak of '... Jewish families *accurse* America ...' - As Trump's feeling-betrayed voters try to understand Trump's flip-flop, it is widely thought Trump has been blackmailed-threatened with murder, & they share this funny-but-might-be-true photo ... Trump's tormented face from this video, a rifle barrel off to the side pointing at him, & caption with Donald Trump saying 'Happy Passover ... Psst Help Me They're Gonna Kill Me':
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2a08e9c871ceb69f30c4fdeb633e84a1b43c23bf2e3367d5f921b090e2fbdfd6.jpg?w=800&h=421

    Russia’s glossy media is not daring to tell the truth about matters such as the White Helmets murdering Syrian children as part of the false-flag ‘Syria chemical attack’

    Few days ago I wrote about why Russia’s media are so inept and indolent in confrontation in Anglo-Zio machine.

    Where is Russia’s propaganda machine? 71 years old, retired American professors does amateurish analysis using one pict obtained from social media and Sputnik and Russia Today will publish it, right? But where are the Russians? What did they do to support the belief that the gas attack was a false flag? Apparently nothing. Lavrov calls for UN investigation. That’s about all. But what about the assets they have in Syria? Couldn’t they release some information pointing to the real culprits?

    Why Russia’s media are so pathetically weak? For some years already I follow some Russian media outfits and I am amazed why they are so inept and indolent. Their approach is totally inadequate when targeted with Anglo-Zio media aggressive anti-Russia narratives.

    This time when Russia and Putin were smacked in the face in Syria the best Russia came up with was to claim that it did not hurt that much, that only 23 out of 59 missiles reached the target and that the damage to the airport was minimal. And next day they doubled down on it by having planes taking off from the airport. Whether the claims are factual or not it does not matter. The opposite approach should have be used: exaggerate the pain and loss you have suffered. Keep showing dead bodies and damage even if invented. Do not pretend that it rains when they are spitting in your face. Show your hurt, your weakness. Be more like Anglo-Zio propaganda that will accuse every drop a real rain of aggressive intent or even of being anti-semitic. Be proactive not reactive.

    So why Russia’s propaganda machine is so weak? Is it because Russians are proud people or that their journalists and propagandists have moral scruples and won’t engage in lies and manipulations? Obviously not. They just do not know because they are conditioned by the working of propaganda in the authoritarian regime just like during Tsars and Bolsheviks. In the authoritarian regime the chief objective of propaganda is to convince the subjects of the regime that the regime knows what it is doing and that it is strong. The propaganda is not really directed for the foreign enemies but for the domestic friends. For this reason any setbacks or losses will be hidden from the populace or minimized. No disasters and no catastrophes ever happened in the Soviet Union if you just read Pravda or Izvestia. Towards the end of WWII Goebbels was disappointed with inability of German propaganda to produce sympathy around the world for Germans suffering due to American and British bombing of German civilian population that was killing children women, and elders. But this was a consequence of years of hiding these losses from German population because the regime wanted to project its strengths. And that was a mistake. So if Russia wants to confront Anglo-Zio media they must shape up and change the approach. So far they are failing though I am sure they are doing a wonderful job for people like Smoothie (if you ask him) and other clumsy and ineffective agents of influence on behalf of Russia.

    I wonder whether Putin and Lavrov still are using the laughable phrase “our Western/American partners.”

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  36. @wayfarer
    Jared Kushner: A trust-fund billionaire baby gangster, within America's White House

    source: https://www.sott.net/article/348461-The-controversy-of-Jared-Kushner-A-suspected-gangster-within-the-Trump-White-House

    Jared Kushner: A trust-fund billionaire baby gangster, within America’s White House

    How does a 30-year-old inherit a mega fortune from a father that is living?

    His father is an x- convict – hmm is bad daddy is still running the money.

    Wonder how the IRS worked it out, that they could retain their mega wealth?

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  37. @Serg Derbst
    There is a lot of stuff wrong right in the beginning of the article.

    First of all, what does abortion have to do with murder? This might be true in the minds of some sick minded people. If abortion is murder, forced pregnancy is rape. And this has nothing to do with fake-progressive, this is just human decency. There are clear rules on abortion and if adhered, it is ok. Ethically, abortion is never a good thing, but it is better than crack babies or babies by women who cannot take care of their kin. From a utilitaristic point of view abortion is one of the hardships we should take to have a better society. Compare those countries who allow abortion in the first trimester and those who prohibit it entirely.

    Second, and not as bad as the first point, "Western" leaders do not have "their own people". They are not our own leaders. We are lead by brainwashed morons in the name of Anglo exceptionalism and Zionism. These are not our leaders.

    The rest is quite ok. But just because fake-progressivism has turned to support imperialism does not mean that everything of that is now false and shall be dismissed.

    First of all, what does abortion have to do with murder? This might be true in the minds of some sick minded people.

    So, those who cherish life more than you are “sick minded people”? Interesting. You cannot deny a fetus is human, so you justify the killing of a type of human because it’s life means less, if anything, to you.

    Welcome to the world of all mass killers. Many societies have norms where it is acceptable to kill those whom they consider inferior. To you, a fetus is inferior because maybe it is not intelligent enough, or sentient enough (doesn’t feel pain, so killing it is OK – which would justify every murder if you just did it painlessly). Well others draw different lines – maybe this person is not smart enough at an older age, maybe that one is not pious enough, that one not young enough; or maybe these others adhere to a different religion (like secular humanism, which seems to be your religion of choice). Who are you to say your judgment about whose life matters more or less is any better than those who pick other victims but cherish the fetus?

    In short, it is easy to justify exterminating the “humans” you consider inferior. But others, who look at a fetus not only see a human with a soul that is not in any spiritual sense inferior, but that he/she has the purest spirit, and this is what counts most. They can judge you like you judge those who kill others who someone (who voluntarily caused the condition in the first place) decides the other is “in the way” or “a burden”.

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    Agree with your reasoning. It is also worth mentioning that all the pro-abortion propaganda encourages a mother to kill her own child. When such a woman eventually realizes what she did the suffering is great. Ignorance of natural law will not shield her.
    Abortion in our society often has two victims, one is innocent, the other has responsibility.
  38. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @CalDre

    Nazi and its minions were the same breed as the barbaric and beastly unrepentant war criminal Japanese, they were out doing each other in atrocity to fill their wrecked egos, killing ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ in so many years from 1938-1945 is entirely possible
     
    Except the Holohoax claim is that the death campaign did not commence until 1942, after (according to the Holohoaxers) the"extermination decision" was reached at the Wannsee Conference held in Jan. 1942 (which, however, reached no such decision; indeed Germany's war industry was utterly dependent on the Jewish laborers in the camps to produce munitions and other war materials).

    Nazi and its minions would be a laughing stock to the barbaric and beastly unrepentant war criminal Japanese
     
    LOL, how to respond to such utter absurdity? Whatever barbarity there was in WW II was shared on all sides. Wasn't it the US that firebombed Tokyo and other cities, and nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki, murdering millions of civilians in cold blood? Wasn't it the US/UK that firebombed Hamburg, Dresden, Cologne and countless other cities, murdering millions of civilians? And we need not get into the massive crimes of Stalin.

    Also the Holohoaxers always forget that the International Red Cross has constant access to all of Germany's camps throughout their existence. In 1946, after war's end, the Red Cross published a mammoth treatise on the camps. Not a single mention of gassings or mass killings. Of course, this led to accusations of "anti-semitism" by the Holohoaxer crowd ... But IRC has NOT backed down in all the years since.

    Except the Holohoax claim is that the death campaign did not commence until 1942, after (according to the Holohoaxers) the”extermination decision” was reached at the Wannsee Conference held in Jan. 1942

    No one claims these things. Jews were being killed in the USSR in huge numbers before Wannsee, which was a coordinating meeting at which no actual decisions about the Final Solution were made.

    (which, however, reached no such decision; indeed Germany’s war industry was utterly dependent on the Jewish laborers in the camps to produce munitions and other war materials).

    So what then would be done with Jewish children, the elderly, pregnant women, etc.?

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    "So what then would be done with Jewish children, the elderly, pregnant women, etc."

    Plenty of "Holocaust survivors" are women, or were children or were in the womb even. And they somehow weren't put to death as we would suppose... No doubt that many Jews died, but still a lot survived the so called extermination camp at Auschwitz/Birkenau/Monowitz. Also it makes no sense to build extermination camps at all. The Einsatzgruppen showed that there is no need of it. Supposedly the Nazis became emotionally distressed by the mass shootings and so they came up of the idea of killing the jews with a delousing agent. Do you seriously believe that?
    , @CalDre

    No one claims these things. Jews were being killed in the USSR in huge numbers before Wannsee, which was a coordinating meeting at which no actual decisions about the Final Solution were made.
     
    Actually the "Holohoax" is all about these imagined "extermination camps". And it was Jews in particular being killed in USSR, it was partisans, it just happened that most partisans were Jewish Communists. Indeed Communism was inspired by Jews (Marx, Engels, Lenin (by half), Trotsky, Luxembourg, etc.) and the Bolshevik leadership was > 80% Jews.

    In the 1970s, it was dictated that 4 million Jews, of the 6 million "magic number", had died at Auschwitz. Now that number sits at 1 million, but the total remains 6 million. That is Holohoax math. (It is important to note that the original 6 million figure, which already appeared in the early 1900s on various occasions, including claims against the Kaiser and the Tsar, was not derived from census data, but rather concocted by summing the alleged killings occurring in the various camps - hence the deduction of 3 million from Auschwitz led to the arbitrary, entirely evidence-less increase in the death totals at other camps, just so the magic "6 million" hoax could be maintained.)
  39. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Joe Levantine
    Yes you can kill millions in matter of years but only the forensic evidence can prove or disprove the act. The Turks killed between a million to a million an had Armenians and the massacre sites are very well known and can be excavated anytime to prove the story.
    The problem with the Holocaust is that the body trail does not exist. It is said that all cadavers were burnt. Then let someone show us the industrial plan that was executed by the Germans to burn these millions of bodies. Fred Lucer, the nerdy unbiased non political expert sent to Aushwitz stated that the whole incinerators capacity was about 20 bodies a day based on Eight incinerators with a time to burn one body between 10 to 18 hours. Moreover the sign at Aushwitz that once stated that 4 million Jews perished there was changed to 1.5 million.
    I do not seek to discredit the Haulocaust story nor do I seek to confirm it, but would anyone engage my confused mind about this controversy in a meaningful way?

    I’ll take your questions one at a time, if you like.

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    Well it has always a pleasure to get your contribution and I would certainly seek your opinion on this subject.
  40. @CalDre

    Nazi and its minions were the same breed as the barbaric and beastly unrepentant war criminal Japanese, they were out doing each other in atrocity to fill their wrecked egos, killing ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ in so many years from 1938-1945 is entirely possible
     
    Except the Holohoax claim is that the death campaign did not commence until 1942, after (according to the Holohoaxers) the"extermination decision" was reached at the Wannsee Conference held in Jan. 1942 (which, however, reached no such decision; indeed Germany's war industry was utterly dependent on the Jewish laborers in the camps to produce munitions and other war materials).

    Nazi and its minions would be a laughing stock to the barbaric and beastly unrepentant war criminal Japanese
     
    LOL, how to respond to such utter absurdity? Whatever barbarity there was in WW II was shared on all sides. Wasn't it the US that firebombed Tokyo and other cities, and nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki, murdering millions of civilians in cold blood? Wasn't it the US/UK that firebombed Hamburg, Dresden, Cologne and countless other cities, murdering millions of civilians? And we need not get into the massive crimes of Stalin.

    Also the Holohoaxers always forget that the International Red Cross has constant access to all of Germany's camps throughout their existence. In 1946, after war's end, the Red Cross published a mammoth treatise on the camps. Not a single mention of gassings or mass killings. Of course, this led to accusations of "anti-semitism" by the Holohoaxer crowd ... But IRC has NOT backed down in all the years since.

    Whatever barbarity there was in WW II was shared on all sides.

    You are muddying water to legitimize the war crimes and crimes against humanity committed by the war criminals. Only the West committed the barbarity in your claim, and Japanese is considered an honorary White despite an unnormal one, so they behaved like the West and committed barbarity, war crimes and crimes against humanity without repent in order to be one-of-us in the West/White group.

    The Japanese is an unrepentant war criminal, they have been using the techniques used in forum.codoh.com to white wash and deny their war crimes and crimes against humanity, such as questioning the minute details, presenting false evidence, watering down events, outright denial, pointing fingers, accusing victim aggressively, …., the same morally defunct evil propaganda the American is using to wage reckless wars around the world on the moral high ground.

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    Whatever barbarity there was in WW II was shared on all sides.
     
    You are muddying water to legitimize the war crimes and crimes against humanity committed by the war criminals. Only the West committed the barbarity in your claim, and Japanese is considered an honorary White despite an unnormal one
     
    Your reading comprehension gets a solid "F" for "Fail". "Shared on all sides", I wrote. My goodness.

    The Japanese is an unrepentant war criminal, they have been using the techniques used in forum.codoh.com to white wash and deny their war crimes and crimes against humanity, such as questioning the minute details, presenting false evidence, watering down events, outright denial, pointing fingers, accusing victim aggressively, …., the same morally defunct evil propaganda the American is using to wage reckless wars around the world on the moral high ground.
     
    It's called debate. Such "techniques" are used by lots of people, both those who are right, and those who are wrong. Does China admit the monumental atrocities perpetrated by Mao against his own people? Talk about white-washing and denying crimes against humanity. Mao is still a "hero" in China and he killed far more Chinese than Hirohito did.
  41. anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    {The story is murky, and the Russians – and the alternative press – had a few mutually contradicting versions Rashomon-like. }

    We never trust you Zionist jew, ever. You like the imposter Noam Chomsky is here to fool the dummies. We are not one of them. Get out of here.

    Last time you didn’t question the FAKE Purim story and only talked about the events so no one questions the fake story. And now, you are trying to dilute YOUR criminal tribe’s action, came out of Jared Kushner, the criminal Zionist and his illiterate zionist wife when they asked their ‘daddy’ to bomb Syrian people for ‘greater Israel’ to frame Assad like in 2013.

    You like the Zionist, Noam Chomsky, who was accusing Assad ‘regime’ on Democracy Now, funded by a criminal Zionist jew George Soros, asking for ‘regime change’. Chomsky NEVER uses ‘regime’ for criminal US, Israel or Britain and never have asked for regime change in US or Israel, only countries that are obstacle to Zionist plan ‘world government’, and ‘greater Israel.
    Noam Chomsky must fuck off from politics and prepare for his final home instead of fooling the public. He is an agent of evil

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  42. @Anon

    Except the Holohoax claim is that the death campaign did not commence until 1942, after (according to the Holohoaxers) the”extermination decision” was reached at the Wannsee Conference held in Jan. 1942
     
    No one claims these things. Jews were being killed in the USSR in huge numbers before Wannsee, which was a coordinating meeting at which no actual decisions about the Final Solution were made.

    (which, however, reached no such decision; indeed Germany’s war industry was utterly dependent on the Jewish laborers in the camps to produce munitions and other war materials).
     
    So what then would be done with Jewish children, the elderly, pregnant women, etc.?

    “So what then would be done with Jewish children, the elderly, pregnant women, etc.”

    Plenty of “Holocaust survivors” are women, or were children or were in the womb even. And they somehow weren’t put to death as we would suppose… No doubt that many Jews died, but still a lot survived the so called extermination camp at Auschwitz/Birkenau/Monowitz. Also it makes no sense to build extermination camps at all. The Einsatzgruppen showed that there is no need of it. Supposedly the Nazis became emotionally distressed by the mass shootings and so they came up of the idea of killing the jews with a delousing agent. Do you seriously believe that?

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  43. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Plenty of “Holocaust survivors” are women, or were children or were in the womb even. And they somehow weren’t put to death as we would suppose…

    How about some examples?

    No doubt that many Jews died, but still a lot survived the so called extermination camp at Auschwitz/Birkenau/Monowitz.

    How many survived Belzec? How many survived Chelmno?

    Also it makes no sense to build extermination camps at all. The Einsatzgruppen showed that there is no need of it. Supposedly the Nazis became emotionally distressed by the mass shootings and so they came up of the idea of killing the jews with a delousing agent. Do you seriously believe that?

    Why not? Would shooting unarmed people be OK for you?

    Bear in mind, by the way, that your story is slightly wrong (it was not a central decision to use Zyklon-B but rather a local initial by Rudolf Höss); most gassing installations used carbon monoxide, which was used in the T4 program and had been used to a limited extent in Reichskommissariat Ostland in mobile units.

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  44. @Anon

    Except the Holohoax claim is that the death campaign did not commence until 1942, after (according to the Holohoaxers) the”extermination decision” was reached at the Wannsee Conference held in Jan. 1942
     
    No one claims these things. Jews were being killed in the USSR in huge numbers before Wannsee, which was a coordinating meeting at which no actual decisions about the Final Solution were made.

    (which, however, reached no such decision; indeed Germany’s war industry was utterly dependent on the Jewish laborers in the camps to produce munitions and other war materials).
     
    So what then would be done with Jewish children, the elderly, pregnant women, etc.?

    No one claims these things. Jews were being killed in the USSR in huge numbers before Wannsee, which was a coordinating meeting at which no actual decisions about the Final Solution were made.

    Actually the “Holohoax” is all about these imagined “extermination camps”. And it was Jews in particular being killed in USSR, it was partisans, it just happened that most partisans were Jewish Communists. Indeed Communism was inspired by Jews (Marx, Engels, Lenin (by half), Trotsky, Luxembourg, etc.) and the Bolshevik leadership was > 80% Jews.

    In the 1970s, it was dictated that 4 million Jews, of the 6 million “magic number”, had died at Auschwitz. Now that number sits at 1 million, but the total remains 6 million. That is Holohoax math. (It is important to note that the original 6 million figure, which already appeared in the early 1900s on various occasions, including claims against the Kaiser and the Tsar, was not derived from census data, but rather concocted by summing the alleged killings occurring in the various camps – hence the deduction of 3 million from Auschwitz led to the arbitrary, entirely evidence-less increase in the death totals at other camps, just so the magic “6 million” hoax could be maintained.)

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  45. @Joe Wong

    Whatever barbarity there was in WW II was shared on all sides.
     
    You are muddying water to legitimize the war crimes and crimes against humanity committed by the war criminals. Only the West committed the barbarity in your claim, and Japanese is considered an honorary White despite an unnormal one, so they behaved like the West and committed barbarity, war crimes and crimes against humanity without repent in order to be one-of-us in the West/White group.

    The Japanese is an unrepentant war criminal, they have been using the techniques used in forum.codoh.com to white wash and deny their war crimes and crimes against humanity, such as questioning the minute details, presenting false evidence, watering down events, outright denial, pointing fingers, accusing victim aggressively, …., the same morally defunct evil propaganda the American is using to wage reckless wars around the world on the moral high ground.

    Whatever barbarity there was in WW II was shared on all sides.

    You are muddying water to legitimize the war crimes and crimes against humanity committed by the war criminals. Only the West committed the barbarity in your claim, and Japanese is considered an honorary White despite an unnormal one

    Your reading comprehension gets a solid “F” for “Fail”. “Shared on all sides”, I wrote. My goodness.

    The Japanese is an unrepentant war criminal, they have been using the techniques used in forum.codoh.com to white wash and deny their war crimes and crimes against humanity, such as questioning the minute details, presenting false evidence, watering down events, outright denial, pointing fingers, accusing victim aggressively, …., the same morally defunct evil propaganda the American is using to wage reckless wars around the world on the moral high ground.

    It’s called debate. Such “techniques” are used by lots of people, both those who are right, and those who are wrong. Does China admit the monumental atrocities perpetrated by Mao against his own people? Talk about white-washing and denying crimes against humanity. Mao is still a “hero” in China and he killed far more Chinese than Hirohito did.

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    In 1981 (25 years after the event) Judith Banister at the US Bureau of the Census proposed 30 millions killed in the Great Leap Forward (GLF) based on her “massive death toll” hypothesis, this figure is the mother of all subsequent numbers when the westerns write about the GLF; Frank Dikotter quoted 45 millions murdered in the GLF to win the Samuel Johnson prize for non-fiction; recently Jung Chang and Jon Halliday said 70 millions killed in the GLF in their book “Mao: the Unknown Story.” All of them claimed their number based on secret sources in china. The latest number is 100 millions murdered in the GLF in some western current affairs analysis sites.

    CalDre, how many do you believe deaths (or percentage) would attribute to polices of the Great Leap Forward? Americans are so deep in fakes news they even do not realize they are congenital liars.

    , @Daniel Chieh
    Your first mistake was trying to reason with "Joe Wong"
  46. @Cyrano
    Democracy is the highest achievable human accomplishment. Nothing comes even close. US were lucky, when they got their democracy in the late 1700’s all they had to pay for it in human lives was few thousand killed. They got their democracy on the cheap.

    Today, due to inflationary tendencies, democracy is much more expensive. Look at Iraq for example, few hundred thousands died there, and still they are nowhere near getting a real democracy. At least they died for the right cause. In the 80’s and 90’s Iraqis were dying only to keep their dictator in power. Totally unworthy cause.

    Then the things got better and the purpose much clearer and there was joy everywhere. Finally people were dying for the right reason. Too bad democracy is such a complicated and bulky apparatus. Before they exported it from US, they had to disassemble it and ship it in pieces, and then when they tried to put it together in Iraq – it never worked the way it was supposed.

    I wish the democracy exporters had come up with some clever incentive for the people who sacrificed their lives for it in Iraq. The terrorists, for example, when they blow themselves up – they are promised 72 virgins. Now that’s a really good incentive.

    For democracy martyrs they should offer something similar. Like for example – if you die for democracy, you get to vote in 72 elections or something. Or in democracy heaven you become a candidate yourself and you get 72 man –dates – but this incentive will only work if you are woman or a gay man, for lesbians they’ll have to come up with something else.

    I suggest that you are in error. The political sausage produced by the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia was a representative republic, just ask Benjamin Franklin, providing that we could keep it. It so happened that we couldn’t and that was one of the things that was subtly jettisoned in 1865 and during the Reconstruction. We became a “democracy” at the point of a bayonet. It wasn’t just a few casualties amongst the revolutionaries, it was the internecine strife ultimately costing more like in excess of 800,000 that was the real human expenditure, not counting maintenance costs owing to political conflicts that we had no business in involvement, a consequence of the imposed “democracy” (the Founders didn’t want it – that’s why they call democratically elected politicians demagogues???). How many lives have been lost in these political adventure wars? Ours? Theirs? Collateral death?
    Oh yeah, they didn’t export it from the US, it was already on the shelf, long disused after the Athenian arrogance.

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  47. @Cyrano
    Democracy is the highest achievable human accomplishment. Nothing comes even close. US were lucky, when they got their democracy in the late 1700’s all they had to pay for it in human lives was few thousand killed. They got their democracy on the cheap.

    Today, due to inflationary tendencies, democracy is much more expensive. Look at Iraq for example, few hundred thousands died there, and still they are nowhere near getting a real democracy. At least they died for the right cause. In the 80’s and 90’s Iraqis were dying only to keep their dictator in power. Totally unworthy cause.

    Then the things got better and the purpose much clearer and there was joy everywhere. Finally people were dying for the right reason. Too bad democracy is such a complicated and bulky apparatus. Before they exported it from US, they had to disassemble it and ship it in pieces, and then when they tried to put it together in Iraq – it never worked the way it was supposed.

    I wish the democracy exporters had come up with some clever incentive for the people who sacrificed their lives for it in Iraq. The terrorists, for example, when they blow themselves up – they are promised 72 virgins. Now that’s a really good incentive.

    For democracy martyrs they should offer something similar. Like for example – if you die for democracy, you get to vote in 72 elections or something. Or in democracy heaven you become a candidate yourself and you get 72 man –dates – but this incentive will only work if you are woman or a gay man, for lesbians they’ll have to come up with something else.

    Democracy is the highest achievable human accomplishment.

    Nah, it your typical cheap mass-produced cig-lighter.

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  48. It sad to see Mr. Shamir finally jumped the shark and joined ranks with naives, who still hope beyond hope that there is some “da kunnin’ plan” by Trump, that he just “takes a strategic retreat and surely will come back with vengance”.

    C’mon, here! Are there anyone surprised left at the idea of the elected President failing to fulfill virtually all electoral promises? Anyone?

    The pundits thought Trump planned to befriend Russia in order to isolate China; surprisingly he used China to isolate Russia.

    Настало время ох…ельных историй, я погляжу! :)

    Go ahead, Mr. Shamir. Explain, how Russia is now “isolated” from China.

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    Retreat is not a cunning plan - it is a device to save one's skin. Will Trump came back with vengeance? We'll see, this article did not double as a prophecy. Perhaps he will, perhaps he won't. But it is a forced retreat, no doubt, and it is a wise decision.
    Explain, how Russia is now “isolated” from China - China did not vote with Russia on Syria in Security Council.
  49. I think that the missile strike on Syria shows how unprincipled US foreign policy is. It’s clearly biased in favor of beautiful babies. So in the future, if any would be tyrant wants to avoid military response from US, all they have to do is target ugly babies and they are safe. This sends a wrong signal to the world that it’s OK to commit atrocities against individuals with deficiencies in their external appearance.

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  50. @CalDre

    First of all, what does abortion have to do with murder? This might be true in the minds of some sick minded people.
     
    So, those who cherish life more than you are "sick minded people"? Interesting. You cannot deny a fetus is human, so you justify the killing of a type of human because it's life means less, if anything, to you.

    Welcome to the world of all mass killers. Many societies have norms where it is acceptable to kill those whom they consider inferior. To you, a fetus is inferior because maybe it is not intelligent enough, or sentient enough (doesn't feel pain, so killing it is OK - which would justify every murder if you just did it painlessly). Well others draw different lines - maybe this person is not smart enough at an older age, maybe that one is not pious enough, that one not young enough; or maybe these others adhere to a different religion (like secular humanism, which seems to be your religion of choice). Who are you to say your judgment about whose life matters more or less is any better than those who pick other victims but cherish the fetus?

    In short, it is easy to justify exterminating the "humans" you consider inferior. But others, who look at a fetus not only see a human with a soul that is not in any spiritual sense inferior, but that he/she has the purest spirit, and this is what counts most. They can judge you like you judge those who kill others who someone (who voluntarily caused the condition in the first place) decides the other is "in the way" or "a burden".

    Agree with your reasoning. It is also worth mentioning that all the pro-abortion propaganda encourages a mother to kill her own child. When such a woman eventually realizes what she did the suffering is great. Ignorance of natural law will not shield her.
    Abortion in our society often has two victims, one is innocent, the other has responsibility.

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  51. @CalDre


    Whatever barbarity there was in WW II was shared on all sides.
     
    You are muddying water to legitimize the war crimes and crimes against humanity committed by the war criminals. Only the West committed the barbarity in your claim, and Japanese is considered an honorary White despite an unnormal one
     
    Your reading comprehension gets a solid "F" for "Fail". "Shared on all sides", I wrote. My goodness.

    The Japanese is an unrepentant war criminal, they have been using the techniques used in forum.codoh.com to white wash and deny their war crimes and crimes against humanity, such as questioning the minute details, presenting false evidence, watering down events, outright denial, pointing fingers, accusing victim aggressively, …., the same morally defunct evil propaganda the American is using to wage reckless wars around the world on the moral high ground.
     
    It's called debate. Such "techniques" are used by lots of people, both those who are right, and those who are wrong. Does China admit the monumental atrocities perpetrated by Mao against his own people? Talk about white-washing and denying crimes against humanity. Mao is still a "hero" in China and he killed far more Chinese than Hirohito did.

    In 1981 (25 years after the event) Judith Banister at the US Bureau of the Census proposed 30 millions killed in the Great Leap Forward (GLF) based on her “massive death toll” hypothesis, this figure is the mother of all subsequent numbers when the westerns write about the GLF; Frank Dikotter quoted 45 millions murdered in the GLF to win the Samuel Johnson prize for non-fiction; recently Jung Chang and Jon Halliday said 70 millions killed in the GLF in their book “Mao: the Unknown Story.” All of them claimed their number based on secret sources in china. The latest number is 100 millions murdered in the GLF in some western current affairs analysis sites.

    CalDre, how many do you believe deaths (or percentage) would attribute to polices of the Great Leap Forward? Americans are so deep in fakes news they even do not realize they are congenital liars.

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    Estimates of any mass criminal event always vary as the criminals normally do not keep good records, and Communist China in particular did not either. Here is an estimate of 45 million dead in the Great Leap Forward. But let's not forget the Cultural Revolution, right?

    You Chinese are far deeper in fake news than Americans. You don't have anything resembling a free press and your government censors the internet like nobody's business. Take your lame brain justification for Mao's crimes and keep them behind the Great Wall where you worship that madman mass murdering psychopath Mao like a divine hero.
  52. Chang and Halliday did not claim that 70 million people died prematurely as a result of the Great Leap Forward. Roughly half of the deaths were said to be due to other, police-state activities of Chairman Mao’s regime, as in the Walker Report to the US Senate. The Chang-Halliday book includes a photo of summary executions outside of Harbin.

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    • Replies: @Joe Wong
    Are you saying as long as anyone can show Photoshop evidence presented by Colin Powell in front of the UN Assembly Hall, mass murdering millions of innocent civilians old, young, women and children with indiscriminating bombing and killing is OK? While executing the convicted after trials despite the trials were primitive is not?

    Did you ever ask the question why didn't Chang-Halliday show photos of trial before executions if you are so righteous and fair minded, or you are so deep in the ideology that you even don't know you have one.
  53. @phil
    Chang and Halliday did not claim that 70 million people died prematurely as a result of the Great Leap Forward. Roughly half of the deaths were said to be due to other, police-state activities of Chairman Mao's regime, as in the Walker Report to the US Senate. The Chang-Halliday book includes a photo of summary executions outside of Harbin.

    Are you saying as long as anyone can show Photoshop evidence presented by Colin Powell in front of the UN Assembly Hall, mass murdering millions of innocent civilians old, young, women and children with indiscriminating bombing and killing is OK? While executing the convicted after trials despite the trials were primitive is not?

    Did you ever ask the question why didn’t Chang-Halliday show photos of trial before executions if you are so righteous and fair minded, or you are so deep in the ideology that you even don’t know you have one.

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  54. Excellent analysis. Two comments: A) the oligarchs are concerned by the world uncontrollable population growth and concentration in megalopolises. A nuclear war is one way to solve the issue. However, history teaches us that once a war is started nobody knows when and how it will end. Oligarchs are convinced they can win a nuclear war. Unfortunately, it is unwinnable. B) It’s too late for Trump to regain control of the US government, assuming he ever had it…

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    Actually there at least two far better ways to reduce the population than nuclear war, which creates lasting problems.

    First: an EMP pulse over the industrialized countries in N. America and EU (it would take only 3 weapons) would wipe out all electronics (including car computers, pumps, the electrical grid, nuclear reactors, telephones, trucks, etc.) - virtually nothing would work, and at least 90% of the population would die off within a few months, if not sooner (no running or sanitary water, no food distribution, no internet or telephone, no transportation).

    Second: a bio-weapon.

    Both these methods would not leave lasting radioactive debris or cause a nuclear winter, nor would they destroy the industrial supply chain. A much better option for the global oligarchs.
  55. @Joe Wong
    In 1981 (25 years after the event) Judith Banister at the US Bureau of the Census proposed 30 millions killed in the Great Leap Forward (GLF) based on her “massive death toll” hypothesis, this figure is the mother of all subsequent numbers when the westerns write about the GLF; Frank Dikotter quoted 45 millions murdered in the GLF to win the Samuel Johnson prize for non-fiction; recently Jung Chang and Jon Halliday said 70 millions killed in the GLF in their book “Mao: the Unknown Story.” All of them claimed their number based on secret sources in china. The latest number is 100 millions murdered in the GLF in some western current affairs analysis sites.

    CalDre, how many do you believe deaths (or percentage) would attribute to polices of the Great Leap Forward? Americans are so deep in fakes news they even do not realize they are congenital liars.

    Estimates of any mass criminal event always vary as the criminals normally do not keep good records, and Communist China in particular did not either. Here is an estimate of 45 million dead in the Great Leap Forward. But let’s not forget the Cultural Revolution, right?

    You Chinese are far deeper in fake news than Americans. You don’t have anything resembling a free press and your government censors the internet like nobody’s business. Take your lame brain justification for Mao’s crimes and keep them behind the Great Wall where you worship that madman mass murdering psychopath Mao like a divine hero.

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  56. @BASLE
    Excellent analysis. Two comments: A) the oligarchs are concerned by the world uncontrollable population growth and concentration in megalopolises. A nuclear war is one way to solve the issue. However, history teaches us that once a war is started nobody knows when and how it will end. Oligarchs are convinced they can win a nuclear war. Unfortunately, it is unwinnable. B) It’s too late for Trump to regain control of the US government, assuming he ever had it…

    Actually there at least two far better ways to reduce the population than nuclear war, which creates lasting problems.

    First: an EMP pulse over the industrialized countries in N. America and EU (it would take only 3 weapons) would wipe out all electronics (including car computers, pumps, the electrical grid, nuclear reactors, telephones, trucks, etc.) – virtually nothing would work, and at least 90% of the population would die off within a few months, if not sooner (no running or sanitary water, no food distribution, no internet or telephone, no transportation).

    Second: a bio-weapon.

    Both these methods would not leave lasting radioactive debris or cause a nuclear winter, nor would they destroy the industrial supply chain. A much better option for the global oligarchs.

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  57. @Anon
    I'll take your questions one at a time, if you like.

    Well it has always a pleasure to get your contribution and I would certainly seek your opinion on this subject.

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    May I ask why you doubt and what specific details you doubt?
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    @Joe Levantine
    Well it has always a pleasure to get your contribution and I would certainly seek your opinion on this subject.

    May I ask why you doubt and what specific details you doubt?

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  59. @Lyttenburgh
    It sad to see Mr. Shamir finally jumped the shark and joined ranks with naives, who still hope beyond hope that there is some "da kunnin' plan" by Trump, that he just "takes a strategic retreat and surely will come back with vengance".

    C'mon, here! Are there anyone surprised left at the idea of the elected President failing to fulfill virtually all electoral promises? Anyone?

    The pundits thought Trump planned to befriend Russia in order to isolate China; surprisingly he used China to isolate Russia.
     
    Настало время ох...ельных историй, я погляжу! :)

    Go ahead, Mr. Shamir. Explain, how Russia is now "isolated" from China.

    Retreat is not a cunning plan – it is a device to save one’s skin. Will Trump came back with vengeance? We’ll see, this article did not double as a prophecy. Perhaps he will, perhaps he won’t. But it is a forced retreat, no doubt, and it is a wise decision.
    Explain, how Russia is now “isolated” from China – China did not vote with Russia on Syria in Security Council.

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    China did not vote with Russia on Syria in Security Council.
     
    And this is amounts to "isolation" - how?
  60. @Israel Shamir
    Retreat is not a cunning plan - it is a device to save one's skin. Will Trump came back with vengeance? We'll see, this article did not double as a prophecy. Perhaps he will, perhaps he won't. But it is a forced retreat, no doubt, and it is a wise decision.
    Explain, how Russia is now “isolated” from China - China did not vote with Russia on Syria in Security Council.

    China did not vote with Russia on Syria in Security Council.

    And this is amounts to “isolation” – how?

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    By the same token Abraham Lincoln ‘killed his own people’. Yet there’s statues, schools and streets dedicated to him everywhere. After that though the US switched to killing other, foreign people. That, one surmises, is morally superior, killing outsiders rather than one’s own.
    American foreign policy is charted by businessmen
    Good example is Tillerson, a lifetime corporate oilman. We know what his priorities are.
    Deep game or bellicose blundering? Who can tell at this point? The majority of Americans have proven themselves to be unworthy of the great fortune that’s been given to them and are doomed by hubris to suffer the fate of Icarus.

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  62. @CalDre


    Whatever barbarity there was in WW II was shared on all sides.
     
    You are muddying water to legitimize the war crimes and crimes against humanity committed by the war criminals. Only the West committed the barbarity in your claim, and Japanese is considered an honorary White despite an unnormal one
     
    Your reading comprehension gets a solid "F" for "Fail". "Shared on all sides", I wrote. My goodness.

    The Japanese is an unrepentant war criminal, they have been using the techniques used in forum.codoh.com to white wash and deny their war crimes and crimes against humanity, such as questioning the minute details, presenting false evidence, watering down events, outright denial, pointing fingers, accusing victim aggressively, …., the same morally defunct evil propaganda the American is using to wage reckless wars around the world on the moral high ground.
     
    It's called debate. Such "techniques" are used by lots of people, both those who are right, and those who are wrong. Does China admit the monumental atrocities perpetrated by Mao against his own people? Talk about white-washing and denying crimes against humanity. Mao is still a "hero" in China and he killed far more Chinese than Hirohito did.

    Your first mistake was trying to reason with “Joe Wong”

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  63. “Waco”–
    “Ruby Ridge”–
    Now tell me that MY government does not murder its own citizens…

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  64. Dear Wally,

    Please don’t get me wrong. I am writing to you from a country where your post would get you up to 10 years in jail. At some point, nations make a choice between free speech and fighting against Holocaust denial. The country I live in (Austria) has taken this choice and opted against free speech and for outlawing Holocaust denial, as has an ever-increasing number of countries in Europe, and there’s no coming back from this. International tendency goes clearly from freedom of expression to fighting Holocaust denial. It will come to your country, too.

    Best, Matt

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