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The Russian parliamentary elections went smooth as a silk dress under the hand. The ruling party, United Russia, has got a big majority of the seats in the Parliament, while the other three parties, the Communists (CPRF), the Nationalists and the Socialists shared the rest. Pro-Western parties did not cross the threshold and remained outside, as before.

The turnout had been low. The official figure pointed to a respectable 48%, but reports in real time indicated it was much lower than that. The last real time figures stood at 20% for Moscow and 16% for St Petersburg. These numbers started to climb inexplicably after 5 pm, and Eduard Limonov, a known writer and a keen observer of the political scene, remained convinced that the turnout had been artificially “improved”.

The new election system (a peculiar combination of majoritarian and proportional systems) had been biased for the benefit of the ruling party. It is hard to say whether the Russian elections were rigged, and if so, to what extent. Surely, if any party can complain about being cheated, it was the communists, not the pro-Western nationalists and liberals. Despite what you perhaps have heard, the Communists present the only real alternative to Putin’s regime, as the pro-Western parties are tiny and exceedingly unpopular. The Communists (as well as the other two parties) are Putin-friendly; they support Putin’s foreign policy, and they would support a more active policy as well. They heartily approved of Crimea’s return to Russian fold, and they spoke in favour of military intervention in the Ukraine.

Putin is the most moderate Russian politician acceptable to the public; every viable democratic alternative would be more radical, and more pro-Communist or Nationalist. All Russian politicians above a certain age were Communist Party members; the Socialists (Fair Russia) is a splinter of the Communist Party established by the Kremlin in order to undermine the CPRF.

In these elections, two alternative Communist Parties has been set up by the Kremlin, and many Russians voted for them mistakenly thinking they were voting for the Communists. If Russian political tricksters were to run Clinton’s campaign, they would flood the ballots with dozens of Trumps hoping that many Trump voters would make a mistake and vote for the wrong Trump.

While agreeing with and supporting Putin’s foreign policy, the Communists, the Socialists and a sizeable minority of the ruling United Russia party disagree with Putin’s liberal economic and financial policies. They would like to suppress the oligarchs, to introduce currency controls, to re-nationalise privatised industries and to strengthen the social state. But they can’t do it: even if they were to gain a clear majority in the elections, Putin would still be entitled to ask, say, liberal Medvedev or arch-liberal Kudrin to form a government.

ORDER IT NOW

The problem is that the Russian Parliament’s powers are extremely limited. The constitution was written by the Russian liberals and their American advisers to prevent Russians from ever regaining their assets massively stripped by a few Jewish businessmen. The constitution gave the president a Tsar’s clout, and minimised the powers of Parliament. It was imposed on Russia in 1993, after the previous Parliament impeached then-president Yeltsin; instead of fading away gently, he had sent tanks and shelled the Parliament. Its defenders went to jail; Yeltsin rammed through the new constitution, and it was inherited by Putin.

Our friend the Saker said “These elections were a huge personal victory for Vladimir Putin”. But is it true? The United Russia includes people of widely differing opinions, from pro-Western privatisers to closet communists. Their common platform is their adherence to power. They are equally likely to support Putin or to condemn and impeach Putin. They are similar to the Regions’ Party that ruled Ukraine in the days of President Yanukovych, or to the Soviet Communist Party in the days of Gorbachev. In the time of trouble, they will run away and desert their president.

Putin might get a much better grip on power if he were to allow more freedom and democracy, thereby getting more convicted supporters, real Putinists, instead of careerists. However, Putin prefers pliable careerists. We shall see whether he will have a reason to regret it, as Yanukovych had.

 

It is not much democracy, you might say, if an impotent parliament is packed by faceless yes-men. Parliament is not a place for discussion, famously said Boris Gryzlov, a United Russia leader and the Parliament Speaker. «It is not a place for political struggle, for ideological battles; it is a place for constructive law-making”, he added. Russian freedom of speech (almost unlimited) is totally disengaged from action, and this is frustrating. Even demonstrations are limited and can lead to arrest. In Gryzlov’s words, “Streets aren’t for political actions and protests, but for festivities”.

If this is the function of parliament, who cares about it? Who can blame the majority of Russian voters for staying away from the city in their countryside villas (“dachas”) in the midst of the glorious Indian summer?

What’s worse, there are fewer and fewer reasons for people to bother to vote, in any country. In Europe, the difference between the parties has practically vanished.

Consider France: what’s the difference between Sarkozy the rightist and Hollande the leftist? Nothing whatsoever. The first blasted Libya and integrated France in NATO, the second wants to blast Syria and fulfils all American orders. There is no difference between parties in Sweden, either. All are for accepting a billion refugees, for condemning racists in their midst, for integrating in NATO and for foaming about the Russian threat. What is the difference between Cameron the Tory and Blair the Labour? Nothing. NATO, bombs, tax breaks for the rich are for both.

The parliaments and people mean very little now in Europe – as little as in Russia. The British people voted for Brexit. Fine! So did it happen? Not at all. The new unelected government of Theresa May just pushed the decision far away into the heap of not-very-urgent business correspondence next to requesting assignment of a budget to a Zoo. Maybe she will deliver it to Brussels in a year or two. Or people will forget about that vote.

ORDER IT NOW

In a few months, Mrs May will say as Stephen Daedalus said when asked will he repay the pound he borrowed: “Five months. The molecules all changed. I am an other I now. The other I got the pound.” The other England voted for Brexit, the molecules have all changed. Let us re-vote, or even better just forget it.

Many people I spoke to already repeat, word-perfect, the new post-Brexit-vote mantra: “Only retired old folk and unemployed racists voted for Brexit.” Mrs Clinton provided the name for them: The Deplorables. This American name for perspective Trump voters fits the Brexit voters like a glove. A Deplorable is a person who does not subscribe to the ruling neo-liberal paradigm and its twin sister, identity politics.

Clinton spoke of deplorables at her meeting with the rich perverts of Wall Street, at a hundred thousand dollar a seat. Breaking the banks or providing jobs will not help you, the holy LGBT victims of white male persecution, she said. Sure, but it will help us, the working people. We do not care for unisex lavatories, we do not obsess about female CEOs. We have other worries: how to get a secure job and a decent house and provide for our children. This makes us deplorable in the eyes of rich perverts.

A new generation of parties has sprung up in Europe: the parties of the Deplorables. In Sweden, until now, a Swedish Democrats party, the only party speaking against NATO, against the EU, against the intake of migrants had been excluded from public debate. Two main parties, the Right and the Left, forgot about their long animosity and made a government together, just to keep the SD out, because they are deplorables. The result was paradoxical: more people have moved to support the deplorable party.

French FN or Marine Le Pen is another party of Deplorables. She wants to take France out of EU and out of NATO, and to keep the migrating waves out. The Left and the Right would rather submit to Saudi Arabia and transfer the power to sheikhs than to allow the Deplorables to win, mused Houellebecq in his Submission.

The Deplorable Jeremy Corbyn was almost removed from his chairmanship of the Labour party by the Labour MPs. The MPs preferred to keep their party as a clone of the Conservatives and to leave the electorate without a real choice. But Corbyn fights, and hopefully he will keep his party and proceed to victory.

More power, more money, more control goes to a smaller group of people. We were disenfranchised, without noticing it. The financiers and their new nobility of discourse took over the world as completely as the aristocracy did in 11th century.

Russia with its very limited democracy is still better off: their nobility of discourse polled less than three per cent of the votes in the last elections, though they are still heavily represented in the government.

The last decisive battle for preservation of democracy now takes place in the US. Its unlikely champion, Donald Trump, is hated by the political establishment, by the bought media, by instigated minorities as much as Putin, Corbyn or Le Pen are hated.

The Huffington Post published the following “Editor’s note: Donald Trump regularly incites political violence and is a serial liar, rampant xenophobe, racist, misogynist and birther who has repeatedly pledged to ban all Muslims — 1.6 billion members of an entire religion — from entering the U.S.”

A man so hated by enemies of democracy is one who deserves our support. When the revolution comes, whoever says “xenophobe, racist, misogynist” to his brother will be lined up against the wall and shot. So it probably won’t be Sanders’ revolution.

I am worried that his enemies will not allow Trump’s inauguration: they will say Putin hacked the voting machines, and send the case to the Supreme Court; or perhaps they will try to assassinate him. But first, let him win.

ORDER IT NOW

It is difficult to predict the consequences of his victory. Newsweek noted (while discussing the US aid to Israel): “A Trump victory would introduce a level of uncertainty into the world that Israel fears. Nobody has any idea what Trump might do as president and that is something new in international relations.”

This already sounds enticing enough. Israel fears democracy, fears peace in the Middle East, fears US disobedience, fears the Jews will lose their reserved places at the first class saloon on the upper deck, in the editor’s rooms and the bank manager’s. Let them tremble.

The consequences of Trump’s victory will be far-reaching. Our belief in democracy will be restored. NATO will shrink, money will go to repair the US infrastructure instead of bombing Syria and Libya. Americans will be loved again.

The consequences of Clinton’s victory will be as short-lived as we are, for she will deliver us the living hell of a nuclear war, and eternal dictatorship of the Iron Heel.

This election is like a red pill/blue pill choice given to you. “You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.” Providentially, we know what colour stands for Trump, and what for Clinton.

First published at The Unz Review

Israel Shamir can be reached at adam@israelshamir.net

 
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  1. Do you think, Mr. Israel Shamir, that Putin first of all tries to restore Russias strength, sovereignity and ability to defend itself and then he may work on a step-by-step variant to restore more socialist or even communist ideas? Or is he (in your opinion) just a more moderate (and a bit more people focused) liberal politician? Is he comparable to LePen, Trump and other populist leaders? Basically capitalistic and sometimes far-right but not imperialistic? What is your opinion?

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    • Replies: @attonn
    Russia will not survive another socialist or communist "paradise", Putin knows that. He also knows that capitalism works. Private property and private initiative work. The USA is collapsing not because of capitalism, but because it had become a quasi-socialist deformity. With productive people taxed to death, their money transferred to both super-rich parasites and bottom dwelling parasites - that's not capitalism. That's the most hideous form of socialism. Why would Putin want to try that?
    , @Israel Shamir
    I see no reason to believe he harbours some socialist or communist ideas, or that he wants to establish a new empire or re-create the USSR. I think he is a moderate liberal politician. But very lucky and very successful one.
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  2. A lot of irrelevancy here. Suffice it to say, the outcome of the Russian election was a forgone conclusion. When Putin “runs” for re-election in ’18, the outcome will be known long before the ballots are cats. Putin is a firm believer in Stalin’s saying about the importance of who counts the ballots.

    Electing Trump will do nothing that you fantasize about. He’ll probably be better than Hillary, a known criminal, but that isn’t saying much.

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    • Replies: @Debbie Menon
    Putin's view on U.S. Elections:

    Why is Vladimir Putin being dragged into the US presidential election?

    http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2016/07/28/1008146-why-is-vladimir-putin-being-dragged-into-the-us-presidential-election/
  3. Your characterisation of Corbyn as a deplorable is incorrect. He is a London leftist whose ideas have changed very little since the 1960s when he first became politically active. As was common amongst leftists prior to the 1967 War, he is pro-Arab and anti-Israeli. This is one of the few areas in which he differs from the rest of the mainstream left who have been in power in Europe in recent years. It is one of the reasons that his opponents want him removed, of course, but it doesn’t make him “deplorable.”
    In fact, he is in favour of massive 3rd world immigration, expansion of multiculturalism and all the rest that leftists support. He even gave his support to continued membership of the EU. Even on Nato, a Corbyn government would have limited effect. The bases would remain as would the foreign entanglements.

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  4. Andrei Martyanov [AKA "SmoothieX12"] says: • Website

    The consequences of Clinton’s victory will be as short-lived as we are, for she will deliver us the living hell of a nuclear war, and eternal dictatorship of the Iron Heel.

    If we are talking real nuclear war–there will be no Iron Heel. There will be a chaos of a numerous armed groups of survivors fighting for surviving resources in a number of localities not poisoned completely by radiation. Considering the fact that in case of such war first targets will be military targets (Counter-force) it really comes down to the absence of truly large and organized military force which is the only force capable of restoring some kind of order and, with it, bringing a dictatorship. Local dictatorships by local warlords, atrocities etc.? Yes. No Iron Heel, though. Oligarchy’s “bodyguards” will be first to finish off their masters. In other words, those who have military training and know how to survive will, eventually, emerge as local feudal class. I simply can not imagine, try as I might, Robert Kagan or Bill Kristol not shitting their pants, thus impeding their escape, when meeting people who don’t care about their faux-scholarship and are merely interested in expropriating whatever valuables they accumulated. Surviving gated communities will be number 1 target for the new order of the land and, boy, we all know how fierce all those Wall Street banksters are–true warriors;-)

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    • Replies: @Regnum Nostrum

    In other words, those who have military training and know how to survive will, eventually, emerge as local feudal class.

     

    Actually those who have military training are unlikely to survive because they represent the least intelligent elements of society. The more intelligent people have identified long time ago the regions on this planet which will remain relatively unscathed by possible nuclear exchanges. They are either living in those regions already or are ready to move there with first sign of trouble. No need for so called military training or "military skills". You assume, wrongly as usual, that the possible nuclear war will impact all the countries with equal devastation. That of course is nonsense.
    , @Bardon Kaldian

    There will be a chaos of a numerous armed groups of survivors fighting for surviving resources in a number of localities not poisoned completely by radiation.
     
    Survivors ? Which survivors ?
    , @Caterina
    BLM run amok.
    , @Serge Krieger
    Exactly my thoughts. Current situation when merchant class and their puppets are running the show is aberration in human history. The world noble always comes from one background and that's military one.
    Can one imagine Gate or Buffet commanding any loyalty from their hired goons if scenario you have been describing would become reality? These people lack any necessary personal qualities prerequisite to command loyalty. No wonder they are always behind the screen avoiding direct responsibility at all cost acting like puppet masters never risking anything.
    Every single warlord in history commanded loyalty of their troops or retinue based upon their martial abilities and human qualities which merchant classes and their representatives aka Kagans and so forth lack by definition.
    They are going to be sweet morsels if the system which supports their rule comes down crashing due to their own stupidity. These elites are effectively cutting branches on which their power and very existence rests.
  5. anon says: • Disclaimer

    Putin needs fraud to get reelected ? Are there any competitor able to beat him in an election 100 % “clean” ? Who would ? Zyuganov ? Zhirionovsky ? Limonov ? The beloved of the West Navalny ? Kasparov ?

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    Putin needs fraud to get reelected ?
     
    No, he doesn't for now but he still has on his hands the problem of 1990s. Without resolving this problem he, at some point of time, may need a fraud. I, at this point, want to think that there is a chance that he tries to provide for evolutionary change, there are some sign of that. But he also should understand that he, realistically, is the only force which keeps surviving oligarchs and other "liberals" from hanging from the lamp posts (or resting on pitch forks). This is a liability, a huge one.
  6. Andrei Martyanov [AKA "SmoothieX12"] says: • Website
    @anon
    Putin needs fraud to get reelected ? Are there any competitor able to beat him in an election 100 % "clean" ? Who would ? Zyuganov ? Zhirionovsky ? Limonov ? The beloved of the West Navalny ? Kasparov ?

    Putin needs fraud to get reelected ?

    No, he doesn’t for now but he still has on his hands the problem of 1990s. Without resolving this problem he, at some point of time, may need a fraud. I, at this point, want to think that there is a chance that he tries to provide for evolutionary change, there are some sign of that. But he also should understand that he, realistically, is the only force which keeps surviving oligarchs and other “liberals” from hanging from the lamp posts (or resting on pitch forks). This is a liability, a huge one.

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    • Replies: @Quartermaster
    Yes, he did need fraud. A statistical analysis was run on the election returns and there is a very high probability of election fraud. The article below also includes the most probable actual turnout. It appears he still would have won, but he would not have ad the show of electoral strength he needs to continue in office with some legitimacy.

    http://euromaidanpress.com/2016/09/21/statistical-method-measures-voting-fraud-of-russias-pro-putin-party/
  7. @Andrei Martyanov

    The consequences of Clinton’s victory will be as short-lived as we are, for she will deliver us the living hell of a nuclear war, and eternal dictatorship of the Iron Heel.
     
    If we are talking real nuclear war--there will be no Iron Heel. There will be a chaos of a numerous armed groups of survivors fighting for surviving resources in a number of localities not poisoned completely by radiation. Considering the fact that in case of such war first targets will be military targets (Counter-force) it really comes down to the absence of truly large and organized military force which is the only force capable of restoring some kind of order and, with it, bringing a dictatorship. Local dictatorships by local warlords, atrocities etc.? Yes. No Iron Heel, though. Oligarchy's "bodyguards" will be first to finish off their masters. In other words, those who have military training and know how to survive will, eventually, emerge as local feudal class. I simply can not imagine, try as I might, Robert Kagan or Bill Kristol not shitting their pants, thus impeding their escape, when meeting people who don't care about their faux-scholarship and are merely interested in expropriating whatever valuables they accumulated. Surviving gated communities will be number 1 target for the new order of the land and, boy, we all know how fierce all those Wall Street banksters are--true warriors;-)

    In other words, those who have military training and know how to survive will, eventually, emerge as local feudal class.

    Actually those who have military training are unlikely to survive because they represent the least intelligent elements of society. The more intelligent people have identified long time ago the regions on this planet which will remain relatively unscathed by possible nuclear exchanges. They are either living in those regions already or are ready to move there with first sign of trouble. No need for so called military training or “military skills”. You assume, wrongly as usual, that the possible nuclear war will impact all the countries with equal devastation. That of course is nonsense.

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    • Replies: @5371
    [No need for so called military training or “military skills”]

    It seems to me that you overrate the persuasiveness of your own rhetoric in a post-apocalyptic setting. Just a little ))
    , @Ace
    You have a very odd view of military people. It's inaccurate, suffice it to say.
    , @RadicalCenter
    You may be underestimating the average intelligence and capacities of the American soldier. The majority of the armed forces is white and, while often not having much formal education post-HS before the military, has a lot of intellectually average and above-average men. Can't write off that whole bunch, or even the majority of it, as unintelligent.
    , @RadicalCenter
    People in countries not directly hit by nukes will, unfortunately, have a hard time surviving with the radioactive fallout that will make its way around the world by air and by water. Where would the safe drinking and cooking water come from?

    As for moving to a less-affected area "at the first sign of trouble": when things break down, perhaps fairly suddenly, how exactly do these superior people get to the airport and take a flight that will not even be operating?
  8. 5371 says:
    @Regnum Nostrum

    In other words, those who have military training and know how to survive will, eventually, emerge as local feudal class.

     

    Actually those who have military training are unlikely to survive because they represent the least intelligent elements of society. The more intelligent people have identified long time ago the regions on this planet which will remain relatively unscathed by possible nuclear exchanges. They are either living in those regions already or are ready to move there with first sign of trouble. No need for so called military training or "military skills". You assume, wrongly as usual, that the possible nuclear war will impact all the countries with equal devastation. That of course is nonsense.

    [No need for so called military training or “military skills”]

    It seems to me that you overrate the persuasiveness of your own rhetoric in a post-apocalyptic setting. Just a little ))

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    • Replies: @Regnum Nostrum
    Another pearl of wisdom from our under appreciated genius. You should publish your incoherent quotations in a book form. I propose to call it 5371 gems of knowledge by a confused sage. It might become even more popular than Bible, another collection of incoherent babble.
  9. Talha says:

    “Join a tribe – because, nuclear apocalypse or not, we just gonna do our nomad thang!” – Brought to you by the Tuaregs Could Care Less About Your Urban Collapse Foundation

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  10. @5371
    [No need for so called military training or “military skills”]

    It seems to me that you overrate the persuasiveness of your own rhetoric in a post-apocalyptic setting. Just a little ))

    Another pearl of wisdom from our under appreciated genius. You should publish your incoherent quotations in a book form. I propose to call it 5371 gems of knowledge by a confused sage. It might become even more popular than Bible, another collection of incoherent babble.

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    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    Much of the Bible is quite coherent and contains moral and life lessons that are hard to argue with, from experience. Of course there is a lot of useless genealogy and fantastical made-up nonsense, as well, but that doesn't detract from the moral and practical wisdom to be found in the New Testament and to some extent the OT.
  11. Kiza says:

    Regarding the post-apocalyptic world, you are both right and wrong. If Earth’s atmosphere does not pop and the nuclear winter does not last a few years then, yes, there will be survivors. If so, then there is absolutely no doubt that the military skill will be the #1 skill among the survivors, even in those areas identified as survivable and being purchased now as escape pods by the current ruling class (New Zealand farms, some Pacific islands etc). The current ruling Jewish class (banksters, media and military industry owners) will have to come up with “honest” power sharing deals with the military men or they will not survive. Not many will survive in my view, the new feudal leaders will emerge.

    Therefore, Smoothie’s version is closer to the truth than Hasbara’s version.

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    • Replies: @Jim Christian
    They'll need shooters, but short term, they'll also need, nearly equally, post-EMP, electricians, communications types, fixers of things and water people and Doctors/nurses. Areas untouched by blast and radiation are still going to be in the Stone Age because of worldwide EMP. We'll be putting a lot of analog gear back together because there will be no building back digital for a long, long time. We will be a collection of very small, disconnected villages.

    I can shoot, fix telecom (we'll be putting those land lines and central offices back together, no cell phones) and I'm an electrician. They'll need me and my Deplorable ilk. You pencil pushers will get a bullet to the base of the skull because you won't be worth the food it would take to keep you alive.

    Better learn a skill someone can use.

  12. “A man so hated by enemies of democracy is one who deserves our support. When the revolution comes, whoever says “xenophobe, racist, misogynist” to his brother will be lined up against the wall and shot. So it probably won’t be Sanders’ revolution.

    I am worried that his enemies will not allow Trump’s inauguration: they will say Putin hacked the voting machines, and send the case to the Supreme Court; or perhaps they will try to assassinate him. But first, let him win.”

    These brief paragraphs reach critical mass!

    VIVA
    VIVA SHAMIR

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  13. Ace says:
    @Regnum Nostrum

    In other words, those who have military training and know how to survive will, eventually, emerge as local feudal class.

     

    Actually those who have military training are unlikely to survive because they represent the least intelligent elements of society. The more intelligent people have identified long time ago the regions on this planet which will remain relatively unscathed by possible nuclear exchanges. They are either living in those regions already or are ready to move there with first sign of trouble. No need for so called military training or "military skills". You assume, wrongly as usual, that the possible nuclear war will impact all the countries with equal devastation. That of course is nonsense.

    You have a very odd view of military people. It’s inaccurate, suffice it to say.

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  14. Realist says:

    “Democracy’s Last Chance”

    Democracy never has a chance.
    When idiots are allowed to vote bad things happen.

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  15. Tom Welsh says:

    Great article, and very instructive! Thanks. One thought struck me:

    “The result was paradoxical: more people have moved to support the deplorable party”.

    That’s quite logical, really. All people needed was to know exactly what the establishment doesn’t want; then they will hasten to vote for it. The only thing they are quite clear about is that they hate the status quo and the establishment that presides over it it. As soon as the establishment is foolish enough to present a clear target, it can expect to be shot down.

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  16. @Kiza
    Regarding the post-apocalyptic world, you are both right and wrong. If Earth's atmosphere does not pop and the nuclear winter does not last a few years then, yes, there will be survivors. If so, then there is absolutely no doubt that the military skill will be the #1 skill among the survivors, even in those areas identified as survivable and being purchased now as escape pods by the current ruling class (New Zealand farms, some Pacific islands etc). The current ruling Jewish class (banksters, media and military industry owners) will have to come up with "honest" power sharing deals with the military men or they will not survive. Not many will survive in my view, the new feudal leaders will emerge.

    Therefore, Smoothie's version is closer to the truth than Hasbara's version.

    They’ll need shooters, but short term, they’ll also need, nearly equally, post-EMP, electricians, communications types, fixers of things and water people and Doctors/nurses. Areas untouched by blast and radiation are still going to be in the Stone Age because of worldwide EMP. We’ll be putting a lot of analog gear back together because there will be no building back digital for a long, long time. We will be a collection of very small, disconnected villages.

    I can shoot, fix telecom (we’ll be putting those land lines and central offices back together, no cell phones) and I’m an electrician. They’ll need me and my Deplorable ilk. You pencil pushers will get a bullet to the base of the skull because you won’t be worth the food it would take to keep you alive.

    Better learn a skill someone can use.

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    • Replies: @Quartermaster
    Much will depend on what those pencil pushers do. It may well turn out that if you try to put a bullet to the base of the skull of someone that you will be signing your own death warrant simply by trying.
    , @Andrei Martyanov

    They’ll need shooters, but short term, they’ll also need, nearly equally, post-EMP, electricians, communications types, fixers of things and water people and Doctors/nurses.
     
    Exactly, plus tool and die makers, engineers of all kind, people who can run logs and, eventually, logistics. And, yes, again--military people, those who can not only shoot but command, organize and run tactical and, eventually, operational size units, conduct combat training and combat operations. The struggle will be long, bloody and cruel until some proto-states will emerge. Those will not be "democracies" in modern sense, but I don't feel like expounding on that;-)
    , @Kiza
    Hello Jim, you and I seldom see eye to eye, but I proudly consider myself a deplorable too, can shoot and have been an electronics and communications engineer (can fix a few things). Unfortunately, I am pretty sure that you are overestimating the survivability of a global nuclear war (typically a US trait). Obviously, the side which strikes first has a small chance of not being turned into a radioactive glass desert, but if even 1/2 of all nuclear bombs explode, the environmental damage would not leave more than 1% of the global population alive (not necessarily in a good shape) even in a best case scenario (which would be a short nuclear winter). You probably also overestimate the importance of electronics and communications when there is no society, although some need for communication within the feud is likely. I totally agree with you on the return to analog electronics and definitely no mobiles/cellulars for a long, long time. Forget also about your "disconnected villages", the Smoothie's return to the feudal war-lordship is a much more likely scenario and permanent warring between the survivors for the remaining resources, especially food (no new production) is almost certain as the post-apocalyptic social model. Men or women who do not know how to shoot a gun and rifle have survivability quickly approaching zero.

    Many, many post-apocalyptic movies have been produced and although some are pure intellectual wanks, some depict human interactions quite realistically (say, The Walking Dead). Therefore, this discussion is not necessarily new and original. But we truly need to keep in mind that the survivability of a nuclear war is the pure propaganda ruse of the bankster & MIC class. For all practical purposes a nuclear war is not survivable and we should not be so close to it as we are now.
    , @Anonymous Smith
    Whoa! Wait a minute, Jim.

    There are plenty of things we can do to fight against tyranny, before it comes to that. I'm gonna repost one of my posts from another thread. We can train ourselves to become what I call 'Citizen Operatives'...there are plenty of actions we can take before the "Big Event". Here's that post...

    "For example…You COULD become what I call a ‘Citizen Operative’. What is a Citizen Operative? A Citizen Operative is a person who has trained him/herself to take independent actions in the real world in order to fight against tyranny. Some good Hollywood examples of the ‘Citizen Operative’ type characters would be Forest Whitaker’s character in the movie “Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai”; and Rooney Mara’s character, “Lisbeth Salander”, in the movie “Girl with the Dragon Tattoo”. All it takes is a little bit of training (well, a lot of training…depends on how far you want to take it) and a lot of practice. ANYONE (‘cept retards, but you’re not a retard) can take these actions…

    1. learn how to do Self-Hypnosis/Autogenic Training…this is THE most important skill you can learn. Practice 2-3 times everyday and in 4-6 months you’ll be able to induce a moderate level (Beta) of the hypnotic trance-state. The tricky part is writing scripts to use in hypnosis…plenty of good books on the subject, though. I recommend the “Handbook of Hypnotic Suggestions and Metaphors” by D. Corydon Hammond Ph.D. Here’s a free PDF on Hypnotic scripts…
    http://thehypnostore.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Script-Book-volume-1.pdf

    You can also learn and apply the techniques of Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP). These advance techniques will dramatically improve your ability to manipulate your behaviors.

    2. Buy, or get access to, a flotation tank (sensory depravation tank). Commercial float tanks run anywhere from $9,000 – $30,000. If you don’t have that kinda cash lying around, check around the nearest big city for a “relaxation spa” Float tank sessions usually run about $50 for a one hour session…but, for $250-$300 a month you can get unlimited float sessions each month. Or, if you’re good with tools, you can build your own tank.

    Flotation tanks offer the very best environment for doing Self-Hypnosis/Autogenic Training and meditation, because it’s super simple to achieve a very profound level of mental, physical, and emotional relaxation in them. By doing Self-Hypnosis/Autogenic Training in a float tank you can easily achieve a somnambulistic (Deep Theta) trance-state. With a good hypnotic script, you can disrupt and remove unwanted patterns of behavior, and “download” new, more desirable, behavioral patterns into your bio-computer. For example, you could alter your behaviors to include the ability to remain perfectly calm under extreme pressure…when I get into a fight (even when my opponent is shrieking (joint-locks are extremely painful) and thrashing about) I remain as calm as a Hindu cow throughout the entire event. ANY behavior can be manipulated…use your imagination.

    If you want to take this to the absolute highest level, you can introduce a binaural-beat frequency generator, and certain pharmaceutical compounds, to the mix.

    3. learn how to do lock picking…tons of free info on the interwebs; you can get practice locks for about $50 bucks. Practice 2-3 hours each day and in 3-4 months you’ll be proficient in that skill. It’s a lot easier than you think.

    4. buy some surveillance equipment and learn how to use it…you’ll need the ability to gather ‘actionable’ intel. It’s possible to learn every trick and technique that the best Private Investigators use in their operations…it’s easier than you think. Good quality surveillance equipment is expensive, but it’s worth every penny, in my opinion.

    Of course, there are many other skills you could acquire if you wanted to, but the aforementioned activities are the basic skills of the Citizen Operative. I’ve given you all the information necessary to remold yourself into whatever you want to be…all you have to do is apply yourself. USE your imagination! I’ll leave you with a quote by Dr. John Lilly, the inventor of the floatation tank…

    “In the province of the mind, what one believes to be true is true or becomes true, within certain limits to be found experientially and experimentally. These limits are further beliefs to be transcended. In the mind, there are no limits…"

    If you want to learn any additional skills, like the martial arts, for example, you can vastly accelerate the acquisition of those new skills with the float tank...just get in, induce a deep level of hypnosis, and watch a video of the martial art that you want to learn. You're subconscious mind will pick up on all the moves to be executed, right down to all the micromovements that your conscious mind is oblivious to, and transfer them directly into muscle memory. You'll still have to take martial art lessons, of course, but it will far faster, and far easier to learn it with the float tank.
  17. Most people cannot imagine or comprehend problems outside their very own, limited personal sphere. That is, nothing will change their world-view until their daughter gets molested, they lose their job or their car gets torched by lawless refugees.
    So the entire situation turns into a race – either the amount of (out of comfort let’s call them) “deplorables” reaches critical mass, or the consequences of (primarily) these irresponsible migration policies become too dire to turn back. Personally I oscillate between these two outlooks, sometimes I feel like a rennaissance is coming, other days it feels already lost.
    My biggest hope is the German AfD, and Marine Le Pen’s Front National. Next year I believe will be the crossroads for Europe: federal elections in Germany, and French presidential/assembly elections. Marine Le Pen is a genuine nationalist and a sensible one as well, and French+German politics are what really matters in the big picture (let’s face it, Hungary will not save us all.)
    Finally, I’d like to say that Trump is counter-productive. All his campaign does is further complicate the nationalist cause by mere association. Placing him in the same basket as European nationalist parties will do Europe no good, and I’m willing to bet he would sell us all out without flinching, just to appease his tasteless ego. Not to mention he’s obviously quite dumb.
    The US in my mind has nothing to save regardless, it’s already a divided nation of rampant crime, social disorder and lack of national cohesion. What Europe should fear is becoming the same.
    Pardon for this hastily written, messy comment but I think my point got through. Excellent headline by the way.

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    [Not to mention he’s obviously quite dumb.]

    His uncle was a respected elec.eng. prof. at MIT, there's nothing obvious about your statement.
    , @Alden
    Wharton business school grads are not dumb. You've been reading too much liberal propaganda.
  18. Rehmat says:

    The Russian election went SMOOTH because there was no patriotic Russian political party to challenge the Zionist elites who have ruled the country since the Bolshevik Revolution. Like the United States, all major Russian political parties are controlled by Crypto Jew oligarchs despite their nationalist rants.

    Vladimir Putin is the most popular among the Russian Jews. Russian chief rabbi is on record of saying that without Putin Russia would be a HELL for the Jews.

    The so-called ultranationalist Vladimir Zhirinovsky, whose Liberal Democratic Party has secured third position in DUMA is a SELFHATING JEW. Though he blamed Jews for WWI and denied the SIX MILLION DIED story in 1999 – later he admitted that his father was Jewish. In 2003 he visited the Zionist entity and met Shimon Peres, the war criminal.

    On February 28, 2014, Reuters reported that “although Zhirinovsky is nominally part of the Russian opposition, he is widely seen as a servant of Kremlin policy, used to float radical opinions to test public reaction.”

    Russian-born American Jewish journalist and author Mash Gessen, in her book ‘The Man Without a Face: The Unlikely Rise of Vladimir Putin’, called Putin “a street thug”….

    Last year, Alexander Zakharchenko, prime minister of the separatist Donesk People Republic called the US-EU installed regime in Kiev as controlled by miserable Jews.

    In December 2014, the Israeli newspaper The Jerusalem Post reported that Alexander Zakharchenko’s foreign minister Aleksandr Kofman is Jewish and a former counselor in a Jewish Agency for Israel youth program.

    Pinchas Vishedksi, the rabbi of Donetsk and an internally displaced person, told The Jerusalem Post that Kofman is fully Jewish according to Halacha….

    https://rehmat1.com/2016/09/21/putins-israeli-soldiers/

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  19. 5371 says:
    @Westernerer
    Most people cannot imagine or comprehend problems outside their very own, limited personal sphere. That is, nothing will change their world-view until their daughter gets molested, they lose their job or their car gets torched by lawless refugees.
    So the entire situation turns into a race - either the amount of (out of comfort let's call them) "deplorables" reaches critical mass, or the consequences of (primarily) these irresponsible migration policies become too dire to turn back. Personally I oscillate between these two outlooks, sometimes I feel like a rennaissance is coming, other days it feels already lost.
    My biggest hope is the German AfD, and Marine Le Pen's Front National. Next year I believe will be the crossroads for Europe: federal elections in Germany, and French presidential/assembly elections. Marine Le Pen is a genuine nationalist and a sensible one as well, and French+German politics are what really matters in the big picture (let's face it, Hungary will not save us all.)
    Finally, I'd like to say that Trump is counter-productive. All his campaign does is further complicate the nationalist cause by mere association. Placing him in the same basket as European nationalist parties will do Europe no good, and I'm willing to bet he would sell us all out without flinching, just to appease his tasteless ego. Not to mention he's obviously quite dumb.
    The US in my mind has nothing to save regardless, it's already a divided nation of rampant crime, social disorder and lack of national cohesion. What Europe should fear is becoming the same.
    Pardon for this hastily written, messy comment but I think my point got through. Excellent headline by the way.

    [Not to mention he’s obviously quite dumb.]

    His uncle was a respected elec.eng. prof. at MIT, there’s nothing obvious about your statement.

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    I'm trying my best to see the relevance in that... What a pointless response.
  20. @Andrei Martyanov

    Putin needs fraud to get reelected ?
     
    No, he doesn't for now but he still has on his hands the problem of 1990s. Without resolving this problem he, at some point of time, may need a fraud. I, at this point, want to think that there is a chance that he tries to provide for evolutionary change, there are some sign of that. But he also should understand that he, realistically, is the only force which keeps surviving oligarchs and other "liberals" from hanging from the lamp posts (or resting on pitch forks). This is a liability, a huge one.

    Yes, he did need fraud. A statistical analysis was run on the election returns and there is a very high probability of election fraud. The article below also includes the most probable actual turnout. It appears he still would have won, but he would not have ad the show of electoral strength he needs to continue in office with some legitimacy.

    http://euromaidanpress.com/2016/09/21/statistical-method-measures-voting-fraud-of-russias-pro-putin-party/

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    Well, imagine United Russia got not 54% but "real" 40%. What would it have changed? Nothing. UR might get less than 75% of the seats in the Duma, but it would not matter as Zhirinovsky, Zyuganov and Mironov are always at the Kremlin's service. The pathetic "liberal" opposition would never get more than 5-10% in the Duma, even without frauds, even if Putin would not exist.

    P.S. Dissemination and citation of Maidanist propaganda is also pathetic. Even if it cites Russian sources.
  21. @Jim Christian
    They'll need shooters, but short term, they'll also need, nearly equally, post-EMP, electricians, communications types, fixers of things and water people and Doctors/nurses. Areas untouched by blast and radiation are still going to be in the Stone Age because of worldwide EMP. We'll be putting a lot of analog gear back together because there will be no building back digital for a long, long time. We will be a collection of very small, disconnected villages.

    I can shoot, fix telecom (we'll be putting those land lines and central offices back together, no cell phones) and I'm an electrician. They'll need me and my Deplorable ilk. You pencil pushers will get a bullet to the base of the skull because you won't be worth the food it would take to keep you alive.

    Better learn a skill someone can use.

    Much will depend on what those pencil pushers do. It may well turn out that if you try to put a bullet to the base of the skull of someone that you will be signing your own death warrant simply by trying.

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    And then there are pencil pushers like me, who are well equipped, armed, prepared and willing to blow your fucking arrogant head off if you try to harm us.
  22. Andrei Martyanov [AKA "SmoothieX12"] says: • Website
    @Jim Christian
    They'll need shooters, but short term, they'll also need, nearly equally, post-EMP, electricians, communications types, fixers of things and water people and Doctors/nurses. Areas untouched by blast and radiation are still going to be in the Stone Age because of worldwide EMP. We'll be putting a lot of analog gear back together because there will be no building back digital for a long, long time. We will be a collection of very small, disconnected villages.

    I can shoot, fix telecom (we'll be putting those land lines and central offices back together, no cell phones) and I'm an electrician. They'll need me and my Deplorable ilk. You pencil pushers will get a bullet to the base of the skull because you won't be worth the food it would take to keep you alive.

    Better learn a skill someone can use.

    They’ll need shooters, but short term, they’ll also need, nearly equally, post-EMP, electricians, communications types, fixers of things and water people and Doctors/nurses.

    Exactly, plus tool and die makers, engineers of all kind, people who can run logs and, eventually, logistics. And, yes, again–military people, those who can not only shoot but command, organize and run tactical and, eventually, operational size units, conduct combat training and combat operations. The struggle will be long, bloody and cruel until some proto-states will emerge. Those will not be “democracies” in modern sense, but I don’t feel like expounding on that;-)

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  23. Boris N says:

    Please, do not call the personal party of Zhirinovsky (born Edelstein) “the Nationalists”. Please, just don’t.

    However, I like when you called PARNAS, Yabloko and all such parties “pro-Western nationalists”. Some might have think you meant “pro-Western Russian nationalists”, but in fact they are what it’s directly said: “pro-Western nationalists”.

    There have hardly ever been genuine Russian nationalists in the post-Soviet Duma (only one or so deputy back in the 1990s). There were Russian nationalists in the imperial Duma only, however, back then they all were “nationalist” in one way or another as their main concern was the well-being of Russia and the Russian nation (except for the Polish, Jewish, etc. national parties with their own agenda).

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  24. Kiza says:
    @Jim Christian
    They'll need shooters, but short term, they'll also need, nearly equally, post-EMP, electricians, communications types, fixers of things and water people and Doctors/nurses. Areas untouched by blast and radiation are still going to be in the Stone Age because of worldwide EMP. We'll be putting a lot of analog gear back together because there will be no building back digital for a long, long time. We will be a collection of very small, disconnected villages.

    I can shoot, fix telecom (we'll be putting those land lines and central offices back together, no cell phones) and I'm an electrician. They'll need me and my Deplorable ilk. You pencil pushers will get a bullet to the base of the skull because you won't be worth the food it would take to keep you alive.

    Better learn a skill someone can use.

    Hello Jim, you and I seldom see eye to eye, but I proudly consider myself a deplorable too, can shoot and have been an electronics and communications engineer (can fix a few things). Unfortunately, I am pretty sure that you are overestimating the survivability of a global nuclear war (typically a US trait). Obviously, the side which strikes first has a small chance of not being turned into a radioactive glass desert, but if even 1/2 of all nuclear bombs explode, the environmental damage would not leave more than 1% of the global population alive (not necessarily in a good shape) even in a best case scenario (which would be a short nuclear winter). You probably also overestimate the importance of electronics and communications when there is no society, although some need for communication within the feud is likely. I totally agree with you on the return to analog electronics and definitely no mobiles/cellulars for a long, long time. Forget also about your “disconnected villages”, the Smoothie’s return to the feudal war-lordship is a much more likely scenario and permanent warring between the survivors for the remaining resources, especially food (no new production) is almost certain as the post-apocalyptic social model. Men or women who do not know how to shoot a gun and rifle have survivability quickly approaching zero.

    Many, many post-apocalyptic movies have been produced and although some are pure intellectual wanks, some depict human interactions quite realistically (say, The Walking Dead). Therefore, this discussion is not necessarily new and original. But we truly need to keep in mind that the survivability of a nuclear war is the pure propaganda ruse of the bankster & MIC class. For all practical purposes a nuclear war is not survivable and we should not be so close to it as we are now.

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    But we truly need to keep in mind that the survivability of a nuclear war is the pure propaganda ruse of the bankster & MIC class. For all practical purposes a nuclear war is not survivable and we should not be so close to it as we are now.
     
    In Counter-force it is possible to survive. Away from military installations and large cities, in mountains--it is possible. It is not going to be pretty, but life after that is possible. You certainly do not want to be (if in US) on the East Coast around NYC or D.C. but somewhere in the Rockies (away from NORAD layer) or in Cascades--there are chances.
  25. Boris N says:

    And I would not call Fair/Just Russia “the Socialists”, either. It a spoiler party by the Kremlin, their hardly do anything “socialistic”, just playing a puppet opposition (but only an “opposition” to United Russia and never to Putin).

    And the KPRF has hardly anything to do with original genuine communism. It is rather a personal party of Zyuganov (much like the LDPR of Zhirinovsky) surrounded by the old Soviet apparatchiks who could not find their way into United Russia (but many did, there are a lot of examples).

    So in the Duma there are hardly any genuine parties or fractions. It is just a fake parliament as everybody in Russia know.

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  26. Boris N says:

    Who can blame the majority of Russian voters for staying away from the city in their countryside villas (“dachas”) in the midst of the glorious Indian summer?

    Here we see a failure of hiring the people who do not live in Russia to write about Russia. The weather in Russia in the 18th of September was unusually cold, nobody could name it summer. Except for South Siberia, where there was really warm, what an irony.

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  27. Boris N says:
    @Quartermaster
    Yes, he did need fraud. A statistical analysis was run on the election returns and there is a very high probability of election fraud. The article below also includes the most probable actual turnout. It appears he still would have won, but he would not have ad the show of electoral strength he needs to continue in office with some legitimacy.

    http://euromaidanpress.com/2016/09/21/statistical-method-measures-voting-fraud-of-russias-pro-putin-party/

    Well, imagine United Russia got not 54% but “real” 40%. What would it have changed? Nothing. UR might get less than 75% of the seats in the Duma, but it would not matter as Zhirinovsky, Zyuganov and Mironov are always at the Kremlin’s service. The pathetic “liberal” opposition would never get more than 5-10% in the Duma, even without frauds, even if Putin would not exist.

    P.S. Dissemination and citation of Maidanist propaganda is also pathetic. Even if it cites Russian sources.

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  28. anon says: • Disclaimer

    “Euromaidan” is not a reliable source for anything that relates to Russia. I wonder who would win an election ‘ not fraudulent ‘ in Russia.
    Maybe some radical nationalist who was demonized by the West since the next day, unless it is about to destroy the sovereignty and the country’s economy on behalf of the creation of an ethno – state ‘ pure ‘, purged of Muslims and other minorities (and territorially shattered), as dream some ‘alt-right’ idiots ?

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  29. Great stuff, as always, Izzie! I’ll be back later.

    Anybody know any truly undetectable methods of poisoning a cat — as humanely as possible?

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  30. There is no difference between parties in Sweden, either. All are for accepting a billion refugees.

    Except the largest party, the Sweden Democrats.

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    Except the largest party, the Sweden Democrats.
     
    This is exactly what I say a few lines later: the deplorable parties rise when the mainstream parties become clones of each other))
    , @Rehmat
    A BILLION REFUGEES!!

    That reminds me a holy verse from Talmud ( (Gittin 57b) which claims Romans killed FOUR BILLION Jews ....

    https://rehmat1.com/2009/02/07/holocausts-too-many-to-remember/
  31. Andrei Martyanov [AKA "SmoothieX12"] says: • Website
    @Kiza
    Hello Jim, you and I seldom see eye to eye, but I proudly consider myself a deplorable too, can shoot and have been an electronics and communications engineer (can fix a few things). Unfortunately, I am pretty sure that you are overestimating the survivability of a global nuclear war (typically a US trait). Obviously, the side which strikes first has a small chance of not being turned into a radioactive glass desert, but if even 1/2 of all nuclear bombs explode, the environmental damage would not leave more than 1% of the global population alive (not necessarily in a good shape) even in a best case scenario (which would be a short nuclear winter). You probably also overestimate the importance of electronics and communications when there is no society, although some need for communication within the feud is likely. I totally agree with you on the return to analog electronics and definitely no mobiles/cellulars for a long, long time. Forget also about your "disconnected villages", the Smoothie's return to the feudal war-lordship is a much more likely scenario and permanent warring between the survivors for the remaining resources, especially food (no new production) is almost certain as the post-apocalyptic social model. Men or women who do not know how to shoot a gun and rifle have survivability quickly approaching zero.

    Many, many post-apocalyptic movies have been produced and although some are pure intellectual wanks, some depict human interactions quite realistically (say, The Walking Dead). Therefore, this discussion is not necessarily new and original. But we truly need to keep in mind that the survivability of a nuclear war is the pure propaganda ruse of the bankster & MIC class. For all practical purposes a nuclear war is not survivable and we should not be so close to it as we are now.

    But we truly need to keep in mind that the survivability of a nuclear war is the pure propaganda ruse of the bankster & MIC class. For all practical purposes a nuclear war is not survivable and we should not be so close to it as we are now.

    In Counter-force it is possible to survive. Away from military installations and large cities, in mountains–it is possible. It is not going to be pretty, but life after that is possible. You certainly do not want to be (if in US) on the East Coast around NYC or D.C. but somewhere in the Rockies (away from NORAD layer) or in Cascades–there are chances.

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    You certainly do not want to be (if in US) on the East Coast around NYC or D.C. but somewhere in the Rockies (away from NORAD layer) or in Cascades–there are chances.
     
    According to a CIA analyst of my acquaintance, southwest Tennessee will be virtually untouched east of Memphis. And Memphis being the black cesspool it is, the attackers might just leave it as is.
    , @Kiza
    I would like to know how you would survive in the mountains and for how long? In the sixties this would have been possible but in the age of MIRVs, there would be very few survivors in CONUS. Above, I was discussing survival in the lands away from CONUS.

    They key factor of survival is how long the nuclear winter would last.

  32. Durruti says:

    Nicely written article.

    One must not blame Mr. Shamir for hoping for a miracle (that, somehow the accession of Zionist Agent-Casino Trump to the office of sexual slave for Netenyahoo [the so-called American Presidency]), will, in any way help the Human Race, or the American People to a better, happier, prosperous, future.

    Mr. Shamir has joined a crowd. I’m still trying to be accepted by the Rothschild, Woolworth, Ollendorff family. Mr. Shamir wishes to retain a modicum of hope, (as he has no hope for an American Revolution that would restore our Republic). And who, can blame him? Certainly not I.

    Mr. Shamir has no hope for this!

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=11&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwja0ObJsKPPAhUHHh4KHeyXDYAQ_B0IejAK&url=%2Fimgres%3Fimgurl%3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.eugene-delacroix.com%2Fimages%2Fpaintings%2Fliberty-leading-the-people.jpg%26imgrefurl%3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.eugene-delacroix.com%2Fliberty-leading-the-people.jsp%26h%3D791%26w%3D1000%26tbnid%3D9LmoRUZgpHm_5M%3A%26tbnh%3D160%26tbnw%3D201%26docid%3DtHGU0NssarOQPM%26itg%3D1%26usg%3D__4iNEgbVf_ye-7Cav5LyblhpU8nM%3D&usg=AFQjCNFoGDqpjL5mser67YovtBBodm6KQA&sig2=tTsLtTYteYaiIE_z8-cgAw

    And who can blame him?

    Some people are worse losers than Shamir & myself.

    1. The Jewish gang will be condemned for all eternity for their thieving murderous cruelty toward the Palestinians. The Jewish People have already suffered the greatest damage, and they have brought it upon themselves.

    2. The losses of the Palestinian and other Arab Peoples, in the scheme of things is, is far less. They cannot blame themselves for the Crusades, Western Imperialism, or Nazi-Zionism. They are mostly victims. No Arab ever stole land from a Jew in Kings Highway, Hollywood, Germany, Poland, France, or Russia.

    3. Native Americans resisted as best they could. They had their moments, such as Little Bighorn, and Buffy Saint Marie.

    4. The Decembrists. Glorious visionaries.

    5. The Founding Fathers. Paine, Franklin, Jefferson, Hamilton, Patrick Henry, the Adams clan. I teach History; still figuring them out. They had their moments.

    6. The Kennedy’s, the Gracchi brothers, L’Ouverture, Jean Paul Marat (in his bathtub), Spartacus, Timothy O’Leary, John Lennon. Rosa Luxemburg (yes, I know she tried to be a marxist), Zapata, Serpico; — you finish the list.

    7. Durruti (Wait! He was no loser!!!).

    Mr. Shamir; you see, we’re doing fine, specially you.

    Durruti, alias Peter J. Antonsen

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  33. @Felix Krull
    There is no difference between parties in Sweden, either. All are for accepting a billion refugees.

    Except the largest party, the Sweden Democrats.

    Except the largest party, the Sweden Democrats.

    This is exactly what I say a few lines later: the deplorable parties rise when the mainstream parties become clones of each other))

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  34. @Andrei Martyanov

    But we truly need to keep in mind that the survivability of a nuclear war is the pure propaganda ruse of the bankster & MIC class. For all practical purposes a nuclear war is not survivable and we should not be so close to it as we are now.
     
    In Counter-force it is possible to survive. Away from military installations and large cities, in mountains--it is possible. It is not going to be pretty, but life after that is possible. You certainly do not want to be (if in US) on the East Coast around NYC or D.C. but somewhere in the Rockies (away from NORAD layer) or in Cascades--there are chances.

    You certainly do not want to be (if in US) on the East Coast around NYC or D.C. but somewhere in the Rockies (away from NORAD layer) or in Cascades–there are chances.

    According to a CIA analyst of my acquaintance, southwest Tennessee will be virtually untouched east of Memphis. And Memphis being the black cesspool it is, the attackers might just leave it as is.

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    I don't know how Canadians will take it, but bar some NORAD installations to the North, I am sure most of British Columbia and Alberta will be just fine. San-Diego, on the other hand, is a goner as any US or Russian major naval base will be. I wouldn't be anywhere near Seattle and San-Diego-L.A. areas. San Francisco, on the other hand, could be left alone by Russia's Nuclear Forces in a feat of grim irony (or sarcasm) to make life of surviving average straight Joes miserable. But, generally speaking, I think about 30 to 40% of US and about 80% of Canadian territory will remain habitable. Especially mountainous areas. As per Detroit--I am not sure that it is in the targeting data base of Russian Nuclear Forces anymore. What's the point?
  35. Rehmat says:
    @Felix Krull
    There is no difference between parties in Sweden, either. All are for accepting a billion refugees.

    Except the largest party, the Sweden Democrats.

    A BILLION REFUGEES!!

    That reminds me a holy verse from Talmud ( (Gittin 57b) which claims Romans killed FOUR BILLION Jews ….

    https://rehmat1.com/2009/02/07/holocausts-too-many-to-remember/

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    • Replies: @Talha
    Rehmat, this one was funny actually!

    A billion refugees...

    "We...will...eat...the...Swedes!"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY_Yf4zz-yo

    Peace.
  36. Andrei Martyanov [AKA "SmoothieX12"] says: • Website
    @John Jeremiah Smith

    You certainly do not want to be (if in US) on the East Coast around NYC or D.C. but somewhere in the Rockies (away from NORAD layer) or in Cascades–there are chances.
     
    According to a CIA analyst of my acquaintance, southwest Tennessee will be virtually untouched east of Memphis. And Memphis being the black cesspool it is, the attackers might just leave it as is.

    I don’t know how Canadians will take it, but bar some NORAD installations to the North, I am sure most of British Columbia and Alberta will be just fine. San-Diego, on the other hand, is a goner as any US or Russian major naval base will be. I wouldn’t be anywhere near Seattle and San-Diego-L.A. areas. San Francisco, on the other hand, could be left alone by Russia’s Nuclear Forces in a feat of grim irony (or sarcasm) to make life of surviving average straight Joes miserable. But, generally speaking, I think about 30 to 40% of US and about 80% of Canadian territory will remain habitable. Especially mountainous areas. As per Detroit–I am not sure that it is in the targeting data base of Russian Nuclear Forces anymore. What’s the point?

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    Any ideas about where a good place in Russia might be? I have few skills and live close to ground zero so my plan has always been to go in the first wave, fast. But now that the moment of truth is growing closer I'm having second thoughts.
  37. Jason Liu says:

    Very good. Democracy is a brief and fleeting illusion of the west. The idea that every citizen’s opinion should be weighted equally is also a direct manifestation of leftist thinking.

    In general, authoritarianism has proven itself a better form of government. The reason westerners don’t think this is because they judge their society by freedom and lack of armed conflict. These values are not the end-all measure of civilization. Some constraints and oppression is required to maintain ethnostates, and move civilization forward. On the broader scale, the suffering of some individuals simply isn’t that important.

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    jason says .....authoritarianism

    you are right in some aspects.but the great chairman,the mao was one such man,even stalin and we all know how many millions were killed off
    like sheep to the slaughter.

    those days are over.
  38. Talha says:
    @Rehmat
    A BILLION REFUGEES!!

    That reminds me a holy verse from Talmud ( (Gittin 57b) which claims Romans killed FOUR BILLION Jews ....

    https://rehmat1.com/2009/02/07/holocausts-too-many-to-remember/

    Rehmat, this one was funny actually!

    A billion refugees…

    “We…will…eat…the…Swedes!”

    Peace.

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    Hey Talha,
    I am surprised you took Rehmat's claim at face value about 4 b killed at Bethar. I don't recall reading any such thing in the Talmud, but will look it up again. An enormous amount of nonsense gets circulated around on the internet ascribing various religious texts as the "original source".

    Rehmat, do you read Hebrew and if so can you please post the original Hebrew portion here so that I may read and confirm/dispute it? I'll consult a Talmudic scholar friend of mine in the meantime [in many of these Talmudic texts the meaning, especially of numbers, are in codified form btw]

    thanks

  39. FYI, the FBI has removed any race-correlated statistics from its on-line website. True to form, the corrupt US government now insists that any breakdown by race be eliminated, and the main focus for crime stats be “Hate Crimes”.

    Obviously, since “hate crimes” can only be committed by white people, the FBI has, once again, turned its efforts to destroying America and the people who built it. The government is your enemy, and its elite police forces have been re-dedicated to eliminating YOU.

    There are copies of the original 2012 – 2013 FBI “crime stats by race” tables viewable at http://my3rs.com.

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  40. I don’t know, I doubt trump will be any different.

    if he does turn out to be different, I would be surprise and happy. for now, I consider everything he does is just something he does to get elected.

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  41. Sam Shama says:
    @Talha
    Rehmat, this one was funny actually!

    A billion refugees...

    "We...will...eat...the...Swedes!"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY_Yf4zz-yo

    Peace.

    Hey Talha,
    I am surprised you took Rehmat’s claim at face value about 4 b killed at Bethar. I don’t recall reading any such thing in the Talmud, but will look it up again. An enormous amount of nonsense gets circulated around on the internet ascribing various religious texts as the “original source”.

    Rehmat, do you read Hebrew and if so can you please post the original Hebrew portion here so that I may read and confirm/dispute it? I’ll consult a Talmudic scholar friend of mine in the meantime [in many of these Talmudic texts the meaning, especially of numbers, are in codified form btw]

    thanks

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    Hey Sam,

    I didn't - I rarely follow his links - to be truthful.


    but will look it up again
     
    Don't waste your time, even if it is written in there as such, it is obviously a mistake or not to be taken literally (as in, "I told you a hundred million times!") - religious texts are full of rhetorical language.

    I was just chiming in on the Billion hungry Muslim part! Gives new meaning to Swedish meatballs! Which my wife makes, by the way, her ancestry hailing from that part of the world. Very good stuff!

    Peace.

  42. JL says:
    @Andrei Martyanov
    I don't know how Canadians will take it, but bar some NORAD installations to the North, I am sure most of British Columbia and Alberta will be just fine. San-Diego, on the other hand, is a goner as any US or Russian major naval base will be. I wouldn't be anywhere near Seattle and San-Diego-L.A. areas. San Francisco, on the other hand, could be left alone by Russia's Nuclear Forces in a feat of grim irony (or sarcasm) to make life of surviving average straight Joes miserable. But, generally speaking, I think about 30 to 40% of US and about 80% of Canadian territory will remain habitable. Especially mountainous areas. As per Detroit--I am not sure that it is in the targeting data base of Russian Nuclear Forces anymore. What's the point?

    Any ideas about where a good place in Russia might be? I have few skills and live close to ground zero so my plan has always been to go in the first wave, fast. But now that the moment of truth is growing closer I’m having second thoughts.

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    Any ideas about where a good place in Russia might be?
     
    First, let's hope that it will not come to this. Secondly, Moscow has the best anti-missile defense in the world. Yes, better than American one. Secondly, any large city and any serious military installation, especially on the plane, which most of European Russia is, is not good. Ural mountains away from Yeburg and Chelyabinsk and former regime cities will work. Siberia is huge;-) Altai region etc. But again, we merely reviewing here worst contingencies. I assume that once William Kristol or Robert Kagan will get the message that their and their relatives sorry asses are going to be burned literally, or, if they survive somehow, they will be hunted down, together with surviving neocons whose names are well known, and publicly executed for the war crimes, even those war-mongers (especially since most of them are pampered cowards) may think twice. But it is in our power still to do at least some things which may prevent the worst case scenario.
  43. Talha says:
    @Sam Shama
    Hey Talha,
    I am surprised you took Rehmat's claim at face value about 4 b killed at Bethar. I don't recall reading any such thing in the Talmud, but will look it up again. An enormous amount of nonsense gets circulated around on the internet ascribing various religious texts as the "original source".

    Rehmat, do you read Hebrew and if so can you please post the original Hebrew portion here so that I may read and confirm/dispute it? I'll consult a Talmudic scholar friend of mine in the meantime [in many of these Talmudic texts the meaning, especially of numbers, are in codified form btw]

    thanks

    Hey Sam,

    I didn’t – I rarely follow his links – to be truthful.

    but will look it up again

    Don’t waste your time, even if it is written in there as such, it is obviously a mistake or not to be taken literally (as in, “I told you a hundred million times!”) – religious texts are full of rhetorical language.

    I was just chiming in on the Billion hungry Muslim part! Gives new meaning to Swedish meatballs! Which my wife makes, by the way, her ancestry hailing from that part of the world. Very good stuff!

    Peace.

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    Yes, it did occur to me right after I posted my comment that you were simply jesting with the Swedish meatballs [yes they are delicious; halal :-) ?] and 4b refugees!

    It'd still be interesting to look it up and I shall.

    Best

  44. Westerner says:
    @5371
    [Not to mention he’s obviously quite dumb.]

    His uncle was a respected elec.eng. prof. at MIT, there's nothing obvious about your statement.

    I’m trying my best to see the relevance in that… What a pointless response.

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    You're beginning to convince me that you do have some personal insight into human stupidity.
  45. Sam Shama says:
    @Talha
    Hey Sam,

    I didn't - I rarely follow his links - to be truthful.


    but will look it up again
     
    Don't waste your time, even if it is written in there as such, it is obviously a mistake or not to be taken literally (as in, "I told you a hundred million times!") - religious texts are full of rhetorical language.

    I was just chiming in on the Billion hungry Muslim part! Gives new meaning to Swedish meatballs! Which my wife makes, by the way, her ancestry hailing from that part of the world. Very good stuff!

    Peace.

    Yes, it did occur to me right after I posted my comment that you were simply jesting with the Swedish meatballs [yes they are delicious; halal :-) ?] and 4b refugees!

    It’d still be interesting to look it up and I shall.

    Best

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    halal :-) ?
     
    Damn straight! I don't know if you keep kosher or not, but this is how my teachers have taught me to regard the rules which others feel are burdensome...

    We live in a world where, by virtue of the laws of how this existence is designed, we benefit from other species and the relationship between us and them is such that; we manipulate them to be docile and more subservient to us, we set up laws by which we own them, we take the milk that was meant for their children, we even take their children from in front of them and go and slaughter them and then eat them. It is a tremendous thing! And (for a believer in God) it is only by His grace and recognition of His prerogative in ordering His dominion as He wills, that we are the ones holding the knife and they are the ones bleeding out their lives. At a profound moment such as this, before one moves the blade, is it too much to be asked to mention His name?

    Peace.
  46. @Jim Christian
    They'll need shooters, but short term, they'll also need, nearly equally, post-EMP, electricians, communications types, fixers of things and water people and Doctors/nurses. Areas untouched by blast and radiation are still going to be in the Stone Age because of worldwide EMP. We'll be putting a lot of analog gear back together because there will be no building back digital for a long, long time. We will be a collection of very small, disconnected villages.

    I can shoot, fix telecom (we'll be putting those land lines and central offices back together, no cell phones) and I'm an electrician. They'll need me and my Deplorable ilk. You pencil pushers will get a bullet to the base of the skull because you won't be worth the food it would take to keep you alive.

    Better learn a skill someone can use.

    Whoa! Wait a minute, Jim.

    There are plenty of things we can do to fight against tyranny, before it comes to that. I’m gonna repost one of my posts from another thread. We can train ourselves to become what I call ‘Citizen Operatives’…there are plenty of actions we can take before the “Big Event”. Here’s that post…

    “For example…You COULD become what I call a ‘Citizen Operative’. What is a Citizen Operative? A Citizen Operative is a person who has trained him/herself to take independent actions in the real world in order to fight against tyranny. Some good Hollywood examples of the ‘Citizen Operative’ type characters would be Forest Whitaker’s character in the movie “Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai”; and Rooney Mara’s character, “Lisbeth Salander”, in the movie “Girl with the Dragon Tattoo”. All it takes is a little bit of training (well, a lot of training…depends on how far you want to take it) and a lot of practice. ANYONE (‘cept retards, but you’re not a retard) can take these actions…

    [MORE]

    1. learn how to do Self-Hypnosis/Autogenic Training…this is THE most important skill you can learn. Practice 2-3 times everyday and in 4-6 months you’ll be able to induce a moderate level (Beta) of the hypnotic trance-state. The tricky part is writing scripts to use in hypnosis…plenty of good books on the subject, though. I recommend the “Handbook of Hypnotic Suggestions and Metaphors” by D. Corydon Hammond Ph.D. Here’s a free PDF on Hypnotic scripts…

    http://thehypnostore.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Script-Book-volume-1.pdf

    You can also learn and apply the techniques of Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP). These advance techniques will dramatically improve your ability to manipulate your behaviors.

    2. Buy, or get access to, a flotation tank (sensory depravation tank). Commercial float tanks run anywhere from $9,000 – $30,000. If you don’t have that kinda cash lying around, check around the nearest big city for a “relaxation spa” Float tank sessions usually run about $50 for a one hour session…but, for $250-$300 a month you can get unlimited float sessions each month. Or, if you’re good with tools, you can build your own tank.

    Flotation tanks offer the very best environment for doing Self-Hypnosis/Autogenic Training and meditation, because it’s super simple to achieve a very profound level of mental, physical, and emotional relaxation in them. By doing Self-Hypnosis/Autogenic Training in a float tank you can easily achieve a somnambulistic (Deep Theta) trance-state. With a good hypnotic script, you can disrupt and remove unwanted patterns of behavior, and “download” new, more desirable, behavioral patterns into your bio-computer. For example, you could alter your behaviors to include the ability to remain perfectly calm under extreme pressure…when I get into a fight (even when my opponent is shrieking (joint-locks are extremely painful) and thrashing about) I remain as calm as a Hindu cow throughout the entire event. ANY behavior can be manipulated…use your imagination.

    If you want to take this to the absolute highest level, you can introduce a binaural-beat frequency generator, and certain pharmaceutical compounds, to the mix.

    3. learn how to do lock picking…tons of free info on the interwebs; you can get practice locks for about $50 bucks. Practice 2-3 hours each day and in 3-4 months you’ll be proficient in that skill. It’s a lot easier than you think.

    4. buy some surveillance equipment and learn how to use it…you’ll need the ability to gather ‘actionable’ intel. It’s possible to learn every trick and technique that the best Private Investigators use in their operations…it’s easier than you think. Good quality surveillance equipment is expensive, but it’s worth every penny, in my opinion.

    Of course, there are many other skills you could acquire if you wanted to, but the aforementioned activities are the basic skills of the Citizen Operative. I’ve given you all the information necessary to remold yourself into whatever you want to be…all you have to do is apply yourself. USE your imagination! I’ll leave you with a quote by Dr. John Lilly, the inventor of the floatation tank…

    “In the province of the mind, what one believes to be true is true or becomes true, within certain limits to be found experientially and experimentally. These limits are further beliefs to be transcended. In the mind, there are no limits…”

    If you want to learn any additional skills, like the martial arts, for example, you can vastly accelerate the acquisition of those new skills with the float tank…just get in, induce a deep level of hypnosis, and watch a video of the martial art that you want to learn. You’re subconscious mind will pick up on all the moves to be executed, right down to all the micromovements that your conscious mind is oblivious to, and transfer them directly into muscle memory. You’ll still have to take martial art lessons, of course, but it will far faster, and far easier to learn it with the float tank.

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  47. 5371 says:
    @Westerner
    I'm trying my best to see the relevance in that... What a pointless response.

    You’re beginning to convince me that you do have some personal insight into human stupidity.

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  48. Talha says:
    @Sam Shama
    Yes, it did occur to me right after I posted my comment that you were simply jesting with the Swedish meatballs [yes they are delicious; halal :-) ?] and 4b refugees!

    It'd still be interesting to look it up and I shall.

    Best

    halal :-) ?

    Damn straight! I don’t know if you keep kosher or not, but this is how my teachers have taught me to regard the rules which others feel are burdensome…

    We live in a world where, by virtue of the laws of how this existence is designed, we benefit from other species and the relationship between us and them is such that; we manipulate them to be docile and more subservient to us, we set up laws by which we own them, we take the milk that was meant for their children, we even take their children from in front of them and go and slaughter them and then eat them. It is a tremendous thing! And (for a believer in God) it is only by His grace and recognition of His prerogative in ordering His dominion as He wills, that we are the ones holding the knife and they are the ones bleeding out their lives. At a profound moment such as this, before one moves the blade, is it too much to be asked to mention His name?

    Peace.

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  49. Andrei Martyanov [AKA "SmoothieX12"] says: • Website
    @JL
    Any ideas about where a good place in Russia might be? I have few skills and live close to ground zero so my plan has always been to go in the first wave, fast. But now that the moment of truth is growing closer I'm having second thoughts.

    Any ideas about where a good place in Russia might be?

    First, let’s hope that it will not come to this. Secondly, Moscow has the best anti-missile defense in the world. Yes, better than American one. Secondly, any large city and any serious military installation, especially on the plane, which most of European Russia is, is not good. Ural mountains away from Yeburg and Chelyabinsk and former regime cities will work. Siberia is huge;-) Altai region etc. But again, we merely reviewing here worst contingencies. I assume that once William Kristol or Robert Kagan will get the message that their and their relatives sorry asses are going to be burned literally, or, if they survive somehow, they will be hunted down, together with surviving neocons whose names are well known, and publicly executed for the war crimes, even those war-mongers (especially since most of them are pampered cowards) may think twice. But it is in our power still to do at least some things which may prevent the worst case scenario.

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    I have been following your comments and your heart is in the right place, but you appear to be relatively young and a bit short on understanding sometimes. The Kristols, the Kagans, other shitty Ziocons and their corrupt goy servants (the Clintons etc) are playing a game of nuclear chicken with Russia. The real danger is that this self-assured camarilla by playing their game brings the World to the brink, after which things run out of their hands and out of anyone's control. The mugs are just too self-confident to realize that, after a certain point, the situation may go off on a tangent which they do not control any more.

    What would happen to this scum after the nuclear war is the least of my concerns.

    There is no place on this planet where survival is assured if a nuclear war happens, especially not in CONUS, in Russia or in Europe! Even Australia has US nuclear missile force installations, which means that it would be targeted (unlike in the 50s movies such as "On the Beach"). New Zealand and some remote Pacific Islands is where the Ziocons would run to, to survive what they caused.
  50. Heavy lifting dead ahead in America’s future; Those not inclined should exercise the better part of valor, and disengage.
    The window of sane discourse of action has been closed, and immediency has filled the breach.
    Historically sad, but systemically true.

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  51. @Andrei Martyanov

    The consequences of Clinton’s victory will be as short-lived as we are, for she will deliver us the living hell of a nuclear war, and eternal dictatorship of the Iron Heel.
     
    If we are talking real nuclear war--there will be no Iron Heel. There will be a chaos of a numerous armed groups of survivors fighting for surviving resources in a number of localities not poisoned completely by radiation. Considering the fact that in case of such war first targets will be military targets (Counter-force) it really comes down to the absence of truly large and organized military force which is the only force capable of restoring some kind of order and, with it, bringing a dictatorship. Local dictatorships by local warlords, atrocities etc.? Yes. No Iron Heel, though. Oligarchy's "bodyguards" will be first to finish off their masters. In other words, those who have military training and know how to survive will, eventually, emerge as local feudal class. I simply can not imagine, try as I might, Robert Kagan or Bill Kristol not shitting their pants, thus impeding their escape, when meeting people who don't care about their faux-scholarship and are merely interested in expropriating whatever valuables they accumulated. Surviving gated communities will be number 1 target for the new order of the land and, boy, we all know how fierce all those Wall Street banksters are--true warriors;-)

    There will be a chaos of a numerous armed groups of survivors fighting for surviving resources in a number of localities not poisoned completely by radiation.

    Survivors ? Which survivors ?

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    Survivors ? Which survivors ?
     
    Survivors from the areas not affected by nuclear weapons. In other words, people in those areas who will not be subjected to main damaging factors of nuclear explosions. There will be quite a few such areas and, as a consequence, quite a few survivors. I stress again--in Counter-force configuration of nuclear exchange. Counter-value--is a completely different game, in that case, yes, there will be very few survivors and their fate will be very unenviable.
  52. Alden says:
    @Westernerer
    Most people cannot imagine or comprehend problems outside their very own, limited personal sphere. That is, nothing will change their world-view until their daughter gets molested, they lose their job or their car gets torched by lawless refugees.
    So the entire situation turns into a race - either the amount of (out of comfort let's call them) "deplorables" reaches critical mass, or the consequences of (primarily) these irresponsible migration policies become too dire to turn back. Personally I oscillate between these two outlooks, sometimes I feel like a rennaissance is coming, other days it feels already lost.
    My biggest hope is the German AfD, and Marine Le Pen's Front National. Next year I believe will be the crossroads for Europe: federal elections in Germany, and French presidential/assembly elections. Marine Le Pen is a genuine nationalist and a sensible one as well, and French+German politics are what really matters in the big picture (let's face it, Hungary will not save us all.)
    Finally, I'd like to say that Trump is counter-productive. All his campaign does is further complicate the nationalist cause by mere association. Placing him in the same basket as European nationalist parties will do Europe no good, and I'm willing to bet he would sell us all out without flinching, just to appease his tasteless ego. Not to mention he's obviously quite dumb.
    The US in my mind has nothing to save regardless, it's already a divided nation of rampant crime, social disorder and lack of national cohesion. What Europe should fear is becoming the same.
    Pardon for this hastily written, messy comment but I think my point got through. Excellent headline by the way.

    Wharton business school grads are not dumb. You’ve been reading too much liberal propaganda.

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  53. Andrei Martyanov [AKA "SmoothieX12"] says: • Website
    @Bardon Kaldian

    There will be a chaos of a numerous armed groups of survivors fighting for surviving resources in a number of localities not poisoned completely by radiation.
     
    Survivors ? Which survivors ?

    Survivors ? Which survivors ?

    Survivors from the areas not affected by nuclear weapons. In other words, people in those areas who will not be subjected to main damaging factors of nuclear explosions. There will be quite a few such areas and, as a consequence, quite a few survivors. I stress again–in Counter-force configuration of nuclear exchange. Counter-value–is a completely different game, in that case, yes, there will be very few survivors and their fate will be very unenviable.

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  54. Caterina says:

    No doubt Obama-Hillary have learned from the Russians and will no longer only vote dead people and Illegals, but also those registered voters who don’t go to the polls. If that doesn’t work, there’s always SCYTL to jigger prior to announcing the winner in November.

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  55. Caterina says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    The consequences of Clinton’s victory will be as short-lived as we are, for she will deliver us the living hell of a nuclear war, and eternal dictatorship of the Iron Heel.
     
    If we are talking real nuclear war--there will be no Iron Heel. There will be a chaos of a numerous armed groups of survivors fighting for surviving resources in a number of localities not poisoned completely by radiation. Considering the fact that in case of such war first targets will be military targets (Counter-force) it really comes down to the absence of truly large and organized military force which is the only force capable of restoring some kind of order and, with it, bringing a dictatorship. Local dictatorships by local warlords, atrocities etc.? Yes. No Iron Heel, though. Oligarchy's "bodyguards" will be first to finish off their masters. In other words, those who have military training and know how to survive will, eventually, emerge as local feudal class. I simply can not imagine, try as I might, Robert Kagan or Bill Kristol not shitting their pants, thus impeding their escape, when meeting people who don't care about their faux-scholarship and are merely interested in expropriating whatever valuables they accumulated. Surviving gated communities will be number 1 target for the new order of the land and, boy, we all know how fierce all those Wall Street banksters are--true warriors;-)

    BLM run amok.

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  56. Kiza says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    But we truly need to keep in mind that the survivability of a nuclear war is the pure propaganda ruse of the bankster & MIC class. For all practical purposes a nuclear war is not survivable and we should not be so close to it as we are now.
     
    In Counter-force it is possible to survive. Away from military installations and large cities, in mountains--it is possible. It is not going to be pretty, but life after that is possible. You certainly do not want to be (if in US) on the East Coast around NYC or D.C. but somewhere in the Rockies (away from NORAD layer) or in Cascades--there are chances.

    I would like to know how you would survive in the mountains and for how long? In the sixties this would have been possible but in the age of MIRVs, there would be very few survivors in CONUS. Above, I was discussing survival in the lands away from CONUS.

    They key factor of survival is how long the nuclear winter would last.

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  57. Kiza says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    Any ideas about where a good place in Russia might be?
     
    First, let's hope that it will not come to this. Secondly, Moscow has the best anti-missile defense in the world. Yes, better than American one. Secondly, any large city and any serious military installation, especially on the plane, which most of European Russia is, is not good. Ural mountains away from Yeburg and Chelyabinsk and former regime cities will work. Siberia is huge;-) Altai region etc. But again, we merely reviewing here worst contingencies. I assume that once William Kristol or Robert Kagan will get the message that their and their relatives sorry asses are going to be burned literally, or, if they survive somehow, they will be hunted down, together with surviving neocons whose names are well known, and publicly executed for the war crimes, even those war-mongers (especially since most of them are pampered cowards) may think twice. But it is in our power still to do at least some things which may prevent the worst case scenario.

    I have been following your comments and your heart is in the right place, but you appear to be relatively young and a bit short on understanding sometimes. The Kristols, the Kagans, other shitty Ziocons and their corrupt goy servants (the Clintons etc) are playing a game of nuclear chicken with Russia. The real danger is that this self-assured camarilla by playing their game brings the World to the brink, after which things run out of their hands and out of anyone’s control. The mugs are just too self-confident to realize that, after a certain point, the situation may go off on a tangent which they do not control any more.

    What would happen to this scum after the nuclear war is the least of my concerns.

    There is no place on this planet where survival is assured if a nuclear war happens, especially not in CONUS, in Russia or in Europe! Even Australia has US nuclear missile force installations, which means that it would be targeted (unlike in the 50s movies such as “On the Beach”). New Zealand and some remote Pacific Islands is where the Ziocons would run to, to survive what they caused.

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    but you appear to be relatively young and a bit short on understanding sometimes
     
    Yes, I am 54.
    , @Andrei Martyanov

    The Kristols, the Kagans, other shitty Ziocons and their corrupt goy servants (the Clintons etc) are playing a game of nuclear chicken with Russia
     
    You are very and I mean fundamentally wrong. All (that is 100%) military (and geopolitical) posture of the United States in the last quarter century is radically non-nuclear and was (and is) built around assumption of radical US conventional superiority. Most US doctrinal views of the last period are formulated withing the framework of conventional operations. One o0f the reasons for this mass-hysteria of US establishment is the fact that the understanding that US military is not omnipotent (in fact, its capabilities, while impressive, were greatly exaggerated) is beginning to dawn even on the neocons. All this is the price US is paying for its policy-setting institutions being staffed with the cadres who are very heavy on lawyers and so called "journalists" but lack basic understanding of the warfare, that is afflicted with the ailment which Colonel Davies defined as "tasteless arrogance". Now, we are not even close (yet) to the game of nuclear chicken and hopefully it will stay this way. I reiterate, once US "elites" understood that that can not win a conventional war in Russia's vicinity or that they can not seriously consider any conventional option against China--that was it
  58. Kiza says:

    The Russians have started activating Short Wave Frequencies for radio broadcasting (for example Radio Russia on 5900 Khz from Vladivostok), which is a sign that they expect that the Internet and Satellite Broadcasting could go down. Simple and very cheap SW frequency radio receivers can be used to inform population at great distances. Those are typical preparations for a nuclear war.

    Also:

    http://johngaltfla.com/wordpress/2016/09/22/russia-launches-massive-nuclear-strategic-exercise-today-with-1700-items-of-hardware/

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    Those are typical preparations for a nuclear war.
     
    No, those are typical protocols during exercises of Nuclear Forces. Recently Russia also held large scale exercises on civil defense. If you watch a Crimson Tide movie it correctly portrays training exercise of the crew of USS Alabama in simulated launches of ICBMs. People train in defense establishments. In general, American survivalist community is a bit on a paranoid side, albeit I by no means say that they are wrong in considering all kinds of contingencies. They just are not that... hm, balanced in their "forecasts". Actually, by far, the most serious problem facing US today is economic bubble which may not deflate but explode--then things may go wrong pretty fast. But that is another scenario to ponder.
  59. Kiza says:

    For anyone interested and young enough not to know this fact already, the basic approach to the set up of nuclear forces between US and Russia is quite different. The US is a moderately populated country which could not use mobile launchers productively, and thus the majority of the US strategic nuclear weapons (ICBMs) are in fixed, highly hardened silos. Russia is a very sparsely populated country, thus it relies on mobile launchers, which they move around on all-terrain vehicles or on railway lines. Of course, the ultimate weapon for both sides are the difficult to trace nuclear missile submarines, the ultimate dooms-day payback weapon.

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    I'm sure Smoothie can provide his own cogent defense. But since he hasn't woken yet, I'll just say that he has made a distinction between a counter-force nuclear war and a counter-value one, the former being survivable by large portions of the civilian population, the latter not so much. Also, I believe he served in the Soviet armed forces, so he's not that young. That said, I do agree with you that people like Kristol coming to their senses will not save us. Indeed, it is their hubris and unwillingness to back down and compromise that will destroy us.

    Those are typical preparations for a nuclear war.
     
    I believe we are perilously close to nuclear war at the moment, perhaps even closer than during the Cuban missile crisis. Unfortunately, the more a Trump victory looks likely, the more danger we are in. My feeling is that nobody has a plan B for a Trump presidency, most are simply putting the possibility out of their minds. World players, as well as power centers within the US deep state, could panic and try something radical if it looks like the structure that has supported them for decades will come crashing down.
  60. mcohen says: • Website
    @Jason Liu
    Very good. Democracy is a brief and fleeting illusion of the west. The idea that every citizen's opinion should be weighted equally is also a direct manifestation of leftist thinking.

    In general, authoritarianism has proven itself a better form of government. The reason westerners don't think this is because they judge their society by freedom and lack of armed conflict. These values are not the end-all measure of civilization. Some constraints and oppression is required to maintain ethnostates, and move civilization forward. On the broader scale, the suffering of some individuals simply isn't that important.

    jason says …..authoritarianism

    you are right in some aspects.but the great chairman,the mao was one such man,even stalin and we all know how many millions were killed off
    like sheep to the slaughter.

    those days are over.

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  61. JL says:
    @Kiza
    For anyone interested and young enough not to know this fact already, the basic approach to the set up of nuclear forces between US and Russia is quite different. The US is a moderately populated country which could not use mobile launchers productively, and thus the majority of the US strategic nuclear weapons (ICBMs) are in fixed, highly hardened silos. Russia is a very sparsely populated country, thus it relies on mobile launchers, which they move around on all-terrain vehicles or on railway lines. Of course, the ultimate weapon for both sides are the difficult to trace nuclear missile submarines, the ultimate dooms-day payback weapon.

    I’m sure Smoothie can provide his own cogent defense. But since he hasn’t woken yet, I’ll just say that he has made a distinction between a counter-force nuclear war and a counter-value one, the former being survivable by large portions of the civilian population, the latter not so much. Also, I believe he served in the Soviet armed forces, so he’s not that young. That said, I do agree with you that people like Kristol coming to their senses will not save us. Indeed, it is their hubris and unwillingness to back down and compromise that will destroy us.

    Those are typical preparations for a nuclear war.

    I believe we are perilously close to nuclear war at the moment, perhaps even closer than during the Cuban missile crisis. Unfortunately, the more a Trump victory looks likely, the more danger we are in. My feeling is that nobody has a plan B for a Trump presidency, most are simply putting the possibility out of their minds. World players, as well as power centers within the US deep state, could panic and try something radical if it looks like the structure that has supported them for decades will come crashing down.

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    perhaps even closer than during the Cuban missile crisis
     
    No. Not even close. Albeit I don't like the trend in general.
  62. Kiza says:

    Instead of busting your brain with potential effects of the Trump presidency, think about all those living, breathing, moving human beings in the Middle East and Iran who are alive now and will not be after Killary is elected. We would be lucky if Killary’s presidency does not end the World – this is exactly why I was discussing the nuclear holocaust, if she only kills a couple of million human beings.

    Does Killary’s camp pay you well? A vote for Bill Clinton cost 1/2 million Iraqi children their lives, which was worth it according to his StateSec Madeleine Albright: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omnskeu-puE

    A vote for Killary is a vote for millions of dead human beings (especially children)!

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  63. Andrei Martyanov [AKA "SmoothieX12"] says: • Website
    @Kiza
    I have been following your comments and your heart is in the right place, but you appear to be relatively young and a bit short on understanding sometimes. The Kristols, the Kagans, other shitty Ziocons and their corrupt goy servants (the Clintons etc) are playing a game of nuclear chicken with Russia. The real danger is that this self-assured camarilla by playing their game brings the World to the brink, after which things run out of their hands and out of anyone's control. The mugs are just too self-confident to realize that, after a certain point, the situation may go off on a tangent which they do not control any more.

    What would happen to this scum after the nuclear war is the least of my concerns.

    There is no place on this planet where survival is assured if a nuclear war happens, especially not in CONUS, in Russia or in Europe! Even Australia has US nuclear missile force installations, which means that it would be targeted (unlike in the 50s movies such as "On the Beach"). New Zealand and some remote Pacific Islands is where the Ziocons would run to, to survive what they caused.

    but you appear to be relatively young and a bit short on understanding sometimes

    Yes, I am 54.

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  64. Andrei Martyanov [AKA "SmoothieX12"] says: • Website
    @Kiza
    I have been following your comments and your heart is in the right place, but you appear to be relatively young and a bit short on understanding sometimes. The Kristols, the Kagans, other shitty Ziocons and their corrupt goy servants (the Clintons etc) are playing a game of nuclear chicken with Russia. The real danger is that this self-assured camarilla by playing their game brings the World to the brink, after which things run out of their hands and out of anyone's control. The mugs are just too self-confident to realize that, after a certain point, the situation may go off on a tangent which they do not control any more.

    What would happen to this scum after the nuclear war is the least of my concerns.

    There is no place on this planet where survival is assured if a nuclear war happens, especially not in CONUS, in Russia or in Europe! Even Australia has US nuclear missile force installations, which means that it would be targeted (unlike in the 50s movies such as "On the Beach"). New Zealand and some remote Pacific Islands is where the Ziocons would run to, to survive what they caused.

    The Kristols, the Kagans, other shitty Ziocons and their corrupt goy servants (the Clintons etc) are playing a game of nuclear chicken with Russia

    You are very and I mean fundamentally wrong. All (that is 100%) military (and geopolitical) posture of the United States in the last quarter century is radically non-nuclear and was (and is) built around assumption of radical US conventional superiority. Most US doctrinal views of the last period are formulated withing the framework of conventional operations. One o0f the reasons for this mass-hysteria of US establishment is the fact that the understanding that US military is not omnipotent (in fact, its capabilities, while impressive, were greatly exaggerated) is beginning to dawn even on the neocons. All this is the price US is paying for its policy-setting institutions being staffed with the cadres who are very heavy on lawyers and so called “journalists” but lack basic understanding of the warfare, that is afflicted with the ailment which Colonel Davies defined as “tasteless arrogance”. Now, we are not even close (yet) to the game of nuclear chicken and hopefully it will stay this way. I reiterate, once US “elites” understood that that can not win a conventional war in Russia’s vicinity or that they can not seriously consider any conventional option against China–that was it

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    All (that is 100%) military (and geopolitical) posture of the United States in the last quarter century is radically non-nuclear and was (and is) built around assumption of radical US conventional superiority. Most US doctrinal views of the last period are formulated withing the framework of conventional operations.
     
    While my knowledge on these matters is limited, this makes perfect sense and in concordance with budgetary allocations within the defence bucket, if one parses through them a bit.

    Still, correct me if I am wrong, this trend simply put, implies two things; first, even in the fevered minds of our neocons, the spectre of a nuclear apocalypse is awful enough to induce a reluctance to play nuclear chicken - they would be loathe to abandon their comfortable lairs in the U.S. Second, the realisation had dawned regarding U.S.' significant disadvantage in conventional strength - which would include non-nuclear advanced tech, such as kinetic etc.

    So the wind-up in war clarions is likely one which envisions perhaps a short swift conventional episode, coordinated with further financial attacks on the Rouble and Crude. About timing, I reckon its too early to tell prior to the elections. I think the financial machinery has been in operation for the period over which crude fell [at least that] whereas the defence brass would press on with Plan B if Donald Trump prevails in November - Plan A for Hillary is already in place.

    All of that said, I hold a superior opinion of the Russian political and defence establishments as being far more rational and conflict rejective, and would therefore seek avenues to diffuse potential conflagration, the follow-ons of which are entirely unpredictable. Still, they also have a limit on their patience and rationality.

    On the Financial bubble, as it relates to public debt, I shall limit them to a few observations. On the Public side the debt held by the Federal Reserve - people need to understand this critically - is in reality of little consequence as far as its potential to cause inflation. It is mostly seignorage debt, meaning all debt service which is the liability of the Treasury to the Fed is effectively extinguished via the Fed returning the payments back to the Treasury under special provisions. Thus you will notice the interest service related to that portion of the Public deficit continues to fall. Similarly, the entire notional amount can simply be wiped clean, as if it were a mild annoyance, should the need ever arise. On the portion of the debt held outside of Fed balance sheet, with a 2% inflation, or perhaps a bit more, the weighted duration is about 6-7 years. So one should expect that over that period, the stock of debt will be basically reduced, with interest expense on budget inline with historical averages as a percent of gdp. Now, this is predicated on the notion that there will be no changes in U.S. productive capacity, physical productive endowment [raw materials, technology], labour force skills, etc. Should those change, all bets are off.

    Finally, my sense of the global play is one which sets greater store by the notion that Putin, is in fact - well a precise term escapes me at the moment - really an allied co-payer in the One Government theory, a very powerful regional "potentate" at that, merely re-negotiating a disagreement regarding the outlines of his region. He has no intention to bring back the old Soviet model of an equal foe of the West. Its far too expensive.

    , @Kiza
    Well, you are still younger.

    Regarding strategic postures, yes they have been completely reversed in the 90s. Before, whilst US relied on its "nuclear deterrent" against the numerically superior and better equipped and trained conventional Soviet forces, after Soviet Union fell apart it is Russia which now relies on its nuclear deterrent and US has stronger conventional forces. However, in the last 25 years US has also come out for the first time with the First Use doctrine, at least openly. It has also come out with the use of nuclear weapons in case of conventional defeat. One may say that these two doctrines were just not official before, that US would have defaulted to them anyway, as would have the Soviets as well. You are just incorrectly interpreting my sentence on the game of nuclear chicken to mean that the US is threatening Russia or will strike Russia nuclear first. My sentence means that despite strategic reversals etc, the situation is still the same as in the 50s: there must not be an open military conflict between US and Russia because it will quickly escalate into a global nuclear war (both sides know this, but US still plays the game of escalation and threats by placing conventional forces on Russian border). I have also mentioned this previously that, since US had nuclear targets in both Soviet Union and China even in the 50s when those two countries were very unfriendly, it is likely that the contemporary nuclear exchange once started would quickly involve all other nuclear powers of the World (use it or lose it, China hitting back US, India hitting Pakistan and v.v., Israel hitting Iran and so on). Once nuclear weapons are used by anyone, their strategic value changes, that is diminishes towards tactical use.

    I for one have been saying many times that there is a race between the US financial collapse and a start of war/nuclear war, which one will happen first. You may wish to continue that discussion with Sam Shama, because he still appears to believe that the US mountain of debt will never come tumbling down. US has been surviving this mountain only thanks to its World reserve currency status, which is now trickling away. The US debt is increasing whilst US$ World reserve and exchange currency status is decreasing. Since the fundament of finance is trust there must be a point of collapse somewhere in this trend. Sam Shama does not accept this. I have no time for a detailed discussion, but ths appears to be a point that you and I agree upon.

    Smoothie, nice contributions at Moon of Alabama. My regards
  65. Andrei Martyanov [AKA "SmoothieX12"] says: • Website
    @JL
    I'm sure Smoothie can provide his own cogent defense. But since he hasn't woken yet, I'll just say that he has made a distinction between a counter-force nuclear war and a counter-value one, the former being survivable by large portions of the civilian population, the latter not so much. Also, I believe he served in the Soviet armed forces, so he's not that young. That said, I do agree with you that people like Kristol coming to their senses will not save us. Indeed, it is their hubris and unwillingness to back down and compromise that will destroy us.

    Those are typical preparations for a nuclear war.
     
    I believe we are perilously close to nuclear war at the moment, perhaps even closer than during the Cuban missile crisis. Unfortunately, the more a Trump victory looks likely, the more danger we are in. My feeling is that nobody has a plan B for a Trump presidency, most are simply putting the possibility out of their minds. World players, as well as power centers within the US deep state, could panic and try something radical if it looks like the structure that has supported them for decades will come crashing down.

    perhaps even closer than during the Cuban missile crisis

    No. Not even close. Albeit I don’t like the trend in general.

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    No. Not even close.
     
    Are you sure?

    http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN11Y37J
  66. Andrei Martyanov [AKA "SmoothieX12"] says: • Website
    @Kiza
    The Russians have started activating Short Wave Frequencies for radio broadcasting (for example Radio Russia on 5900 Khz from Vladivostok), which is a sign that they expect that the Internet and Satellite Broadcasting could go down. Simple and very cheap SW frequency radio receivers can be used to inform population at great distances. Those are typical preparations for a nuclear war.

    Also:
    http://johngaltfla.com/wordpress/2016/09/22/russia-launches-massive-nuclear-strategic-exercise-today-with-1700-items-of-hardware/

    Those are typical preparations for a nuclear war.

    No, those are typical protocols during exercises of Nuclear Forces. Recently Russia also held large scale exercises on civil defense. If you watch a Crimson Tide movie it correctly portrays training exercise of the crew of USS Alabama in simulated launches of ICBMs. People train in defense establishments. In general, American survivalist community is a bit on a paranoid side, albeit I by no means say that they are wrong in considering all kinds of contingencies. They just are not that… hm, balanced in their “forecasts”. Actually, by far, the most serious problem facing US today is economic bubble which may not deflate but explode–then things may go wrong pretty fast. But that is another scenario to ponder.

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  67. Sam Shama says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    The Kristols, the Kagans, other shitty Ziocons and their corrupt goy servants (the Clintons etc) are playing a game of nuclear chicken with Russia
     
    You are very and I mean fundamentally wrong. All (that is 100%) military (and geopolitical) posture of the United States in the last quarter century is radically non-nuclear and was (and is) built around assumption of radical US conventional superiority. Most US doctrinal views of the last period are formulated withing the framework of conventional operations. One o0f the reasons for this mass-hysteria of US establishment is the fact that the understanding that US military is not omnipotent (in fact, its capabilities, while impressive, were greatly exaggerated) is beginning to dawn even on the neocons. All this is the price US is paying for its policy-setting institutions being staffed with the cadres who are very heavy on lawyers and so called "journalists" but lack basic understanding of the warfare, that is afflicted with the ailment which Colonel Davies defined as "tasteless arrogance". Now, we are not even close (yet) to the game of nuclear chicken and hopefully it will stay this way. I reiterate, once US "elites" understood that that can not win a conventional war in Russia's vicinity or that they can not seriously consider any conventional option against China--that was it

    All (that is 100%) military (and geopolitical) posture of the United States in the last quarter century is radically non-nuclear and was (and is) built around assumption of radical US conventional superiority. Most US doctrinal views of the last period are formulated withing the framework of conventional operations.

    While my knowledge on these matters is limited, this makes perfect sense and in concordance with budgetary allocations within the defence bucket, if one parses through them a bit.

    Still, correct me if I am wrong, this trend simply put, implies two things; first, even in the fevered minds of our neocons, the spectre of a nuclear apocalypse is awful enough to induce a reluctance to play nuclear chicken – they would be loathe to abandon their comfortable lairs in the U.S. Second, the realisation had dawned regarding U.S.’ significant disadvantage in conventional strength – which would include non-nuclear advanced tech, such as kinetic etc.

    So the wind-up in war clarions is likely one which envisions perhaps a short swift conventional episode, coordinated with further financial attacks on the Rouble and Crude. About timing, I reckon its too early to tell prior to the elections. I think the financial machinery has been in operation for the period over which crude fell [at least that] whereas the defence brass would press on with Plan B if Donald Trump prevails in November – Plan A for Hillary is already in place.

    All of that said, I hold a superior opinion of the Russian political and defence establishments as being far more rational and conflict rejective, and would therefore seek avenues to diffuse potential conflagration, the follow-ons of which are entirely unpredictable. Still, they also have a limit on their patience and rationality.

    On the Financial bubble, as it relates to public debt, I shall limit them to a few observations. On the Public side the debt held by the Federal Reserve – people need to understand this critically – is in reality of little consequence as far as its potential to cause inflation. It is mostly seignorage debt, meaning all debt service which is the liability of the Treasury to the Fed is effectively extinguished via the Fed returning the payments back to the Treasury under special provisions. Thus you will notice the interest service related to that portion of the Public deficit continues to fall. Similarly, the entire notional amount can simply be wiped clean, as if it were a mild annoyance, should the need ever arise. On the portion of the debt held outside of Fed balance sheet, with a 2% inflation, or perhaps a bit more, the weighted duration is about 6-7 years. So one should expect that over that period, the stock of debt will be basically reduced, with interest expense on budget inline with historical averages as a percent of gdp. Now, this is predicated on the notion that there will be no changes in U.S. productive capacity, physical productive endowment [raw materials, technology], labour force skills, etc. Should those change, all bets are off.

    Finally, my sense of the global play is one which sets greater store by the notion that Putin, is in fact – well a precise term escapes me at the moment – really an allied co-payer in the One Government theory, a very powerful regional “potentate” at that, merely re-negotiating a disagreement regarding the outlines of his region. He has no intention to bring back the old Soviet model of an equal foe of the West. Its far too expensive.

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  68. Andrei Martyanov [AKA "SmoothieX12"] says: • Website

    first, even in the fevered minds of our neocons, the spectre of a nuclear apocalypse is awful enough to induce a reluctance to play nuclear chicken – they would be loathe to abandon their comfortable lairs in the U.S.

    True. Even the most hysterical “experts” among them get a sense that the war with Russia is something US didn’t have to deal since 1944 and even then, the parallels are very shaky.

    Second, the realisation had dawned regarding U.S.’ significant disadvantage in conventional strength – which would include non-nuclear advanced tech, such as kinetic etc.

    The foundation of Pax Americana narrative IS greatly advertised US being unequal in the world in concventio0nal military terms. Technological dimension of US strategies obscures completely other: tactical, operational, social, what have you, factors which influence the outcome in the armed struggle. There are number of this narrative key points which are easily challenged both theoretically and practically. The foundation of this challenge is a simple question: when was the last time US won forget peer, even near peer adversary? Not since 1945 when magnificent US Navy effectively won Pacific War. Since then I can not even recall US facing off against even remotely comparable (in capability and resolve) adversary. Neither is US claim on the exclusiveness of its Precision-Guided Munitions (PGM) withstands any critique based on facts. USSR used Laser and TV guided weapons in Afghanistan as early as 1980-81. It is a complex question and requires a very long elaborations (that’s what I do in my blog) but it was 08-08-08 when neocons (or Borg, or whatever) understood that the end was near. As per that:

    Finally, my sense of the global play is one which sets greater store by the notion that Putin, is in fact – well a precise term escapes me at the moment – really an allied co-payer in the One Government theory, a very powerful regional “potentate” at that, merely re-negotiating a disagreement regarding the outlines of his region. He has no intention to bring back the old Soviet model of an equal foe of the West. Its far too expensive.

    Eurasian economic entity is inevitable. No, Putin doesn’t want new USSR, nor Russian people want that either. Yes, you are in a sense correct that it is about “renegotiating” the fate of Russian realm, which is now a sovereign nation, but this means only one thing–the collapse of US global model by default, hence such a fever pitch hysteria. Putin knows it, I know it, that US of 2016 and US of 1991 are two different countries. US is in a departure mode from uni-polarity, towards multi-polar world and Russia’s conventional and nuclear capabilities are there to ensure that this departure goes more-or-less peacefully. One can not fight the truth and… X101 cruise missiles;-)

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    The Ziocons better get your memo on "inevitability" very soon or the World may end. It appears that you truely believe that Washington is scared by the Russian nuclear deterrent!? Maybe you need a trip to D.C. to start appreciating the atmosphere there - D.C. is stuck in the "end of history 90s". The generation of wonks, the latte class of Washington, still sees US in the mono-polar context or in the context of preserving the mono-polarity (the smarter ones). Now I understand why you so grossly underestimate the danger - The Russians believe that the US is scared of the Russian nuclear weapons, whilst the US leadership is stil too punch drunk from the global dominance party of the 90s to be scared of anything.

    If other Russians, and especially the Russian leadership, appreciate the situation the way you do then the world is up the creek without a peddle. It is a very, very dangerous thinking mismatch.
  69. Kiza says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    The Kristols, the Kagans, other shitty Ziocons and their corrupt goy servants (the Clintons etc) are playing a game of nuclear chicken with Russia
     
    You are very and I mean fundamentally wrong. All (that is 100%) military (and geopolitical) posture of the United States in the last quarter century is radically non-nuclear and was (and is) built around assumption of radical US conventional superiority. Most US doctrinal views of the last period are formulated withing the framework of conventional operations. One o0f the reasons for this mass-hysteria of US establishment is the fact that the understanding that US military is not omnipotent (in fact, its capabilities, while impressive, were greatly exaggerated) is beginning to dawn even on the neocons. All this is the price US is paying for its policy-setting institutions being staffed with the cadres who are very heavy on lawyers and so called "journalists" but lack basic understanding of the warfare, that is afflicted with the ailment which Colonel Davies defined as "tasteless arrogance". Now, we are not even close (yet) to the game of nuclear chicken and hopefully it will stay this way. I reiterate, once US "elites" understood that that can not win a conventional war in Russia's vicinity or that they can not seriously consider any conventional option against China--that was it

    Well, you are still younger.

    Regarding strategic postures, yes they have been completely reversed in the 90s. Before, whilst US relied on its “nuclear deterrent” against the numerically superior and better equipped and trained conventional Soviet forces, after Soviet Union fell apart it is Russia which now relies on its nuclear deterrent and US has stronger conventional forces. However, in the last 25 years US has also come out for the first time with the First Use doctrine, at least openly. It has also come out with the use of nuclear weapons in case of conventional defeat. One may say that these two doctrines were just not official before, that US would have defaulted to them anyway, as would have the Soviets as well. You are just incorrectly interpreting my sentence on the game of nuclear chicken to mean that the US is threatening Russia or will strike Russia nuclear first. My sentence means that despite strategic reversals etc, the situation is still the same as in the 50s: there must not be an open military conflict between US and Russia because it will quickly escalate into a global nuclear war (both sides know this, but US still plays the game of escalation and threats by placing conventional forces on Russian border). I have also mentioned this previously that, since US had nuclear targets in both Soviet Union and China even in the 50s when those two countries were very unfriendly, it is likely that the contemporary nuclear exchange once started would quickly involve all other nuclear powers of the World (use it or lose it, China hitting back US, India hitting Pakistan and v.v., Israel hitting Iran and so on). Once nuclear weapons are used by anyone, their strategic value changes, that is diminishes towards tactical use.

    I for one have been saying many times that there is a race between the US financial collapse and a start of war/nuclear war, which one will happen first. You may wish to continue that discussion with Sam Shama, because he still appears to believe that the US mountain of debt will never come tumbling down. US has been surviving this mountain only thanks to its World reserve currency status, which is now trickling away. The US debt is increasing whilst US$ World reserve and exchange currency status is decreasing. Since the fundament of finance is trust there must be a point of collapse somewhere in this trend. Sam Shama does not accept this. I have no time for a detailed discussion, but ths appears to be a point that you and I agree upon.

    Smoothie, nice contributions at Moon of Alabama. My regards

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    There are essentially two conditions under which U.S. Public Debt can come "tumbling down" - I am assuming by that term you imply a catastrophic reduction in value.

    [Note: corporate and private debt, both of which contracted as public debt soared, corporate less, and then resuming its growth, but private credit/debt growth still very low and shows little sign of picking up anytime soon]

    So, Public debt i.e. U.S. Treasury issued notes and bonds, which are backed by the full faith and guarantee of the U.S. government, can suffer drastic fall in value, if:

    (1) there is a catastrophic reduction in U.S. productive capacity, which results in a drawdown in the sovereign's ability to service this debt. Interest service currently requires around one percent of the gdp, and maturing face somewhere around three percent. Now if inflation rises above 2%, say 2.5% then the real burdens are accordingly lowered. At this rate U.S current stock of debt will be fully defeased in 6-7 years. Assuming normal growth of 3% U.S. public debt dynamics are more than manageable.

    (2) there is a hyper-inflationary episode lasting a year, and as such all outstanding debt is rendered valueless. Such an economic calamity can occur when (1) does, [Weimar]. Should this occur it would cause great hardship for all bondholders including China, Japan and Europe.

    (3) China's entry as a global reserve [it still isn't , and inclusion in SDR hardly implies automatic adoption as prime reserve] , creation of the AIB, etc. are good outcomes for global economic stability. It will lead to greater central bank system co-ordination and substitutability, lead to lowered volatility of international reserve requirements and generally beneficial for credit. Trade volume increases denominated in RMB will lead to greater global trade and lowered burdens on the U.S. banking system to initiate liquidity and capital swaps during episodes of distress. Put differently, the global pie is going to get much bigger, and, should that lead to the U.S. getting a larger absolute but smaller proportional slice, ought only be welcomed or at least viewed with equanimity.

    So I cannot readily identify an obvious set of circumstances which will likely lead to (1) and/or (2), or indeed, as some would have it, be the unavoidable destination we are headed for.

    I should like to understand where and how, this loss of productive capacity [not just mind you, a more balanced global economy as discussed in (3) ] is going to befall the U.S.

  70. Miro23 says:

    “A Trump victory would introduce a level of uncertainty in to the world that Israel fears”

    I wouldn’t disagree with that, but probably a more fundamental shift is digital technology and the uncontrolled spread of information.

    Among all the benefits of digitalization, a downside is that privacy is fast disappearing, with the unusual situation that the government suddenly knows all about the public and the public knows all about the government. The world is not the same when everyone is walking round with a video camera (as HRC recently discovered).

    The relevance, is that there has been a fast spread of factual information, about Israel’s serial False Flag operations against Britain and the US (King David Hotel, Lavon, USS Liberty and 9/11) that is reaching a tipping point of public awareness. Israel and US Zionists could reasonably have expected the information to stay hidden, given their dominance of traditional media sources, and it would probably have been a correct supposition up to about 10 years ago.

    Mass digitalization seems to have caught them unawares so they find themselves in an existential situation where they have to (soon) have a dictatorship in the United States to neutralize any dissent. It looks to some extent as if the situation was anticipated, with 9/11 designed to fix the problem, but since it mostly failed, they are obliged to try again.

    It’s a dangerous position for the many Israelis who want their country to be an honest partner in a community of nations( rather than be shackled to a group of Likud terrorists), but it’s up to them and US Jews to deal with the Zionist extremists.

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    Am I the only pessimist here or you people live in a different universe to mine? Israelis and US Jews to deal with Likudnik extremists, you got to be kidding!?!? In which universe would that happen? Without US Jewish extremists, the Likudniks would not even exist. You expect the mother to kill its child!? The Israelis keep electing Likudniks time after time, but hey, you expect them to somehow come to their senses?

    One thing I have learned about people is that they never change unless the reality hits them back on the head like hundred tons of brick, and not even then. Where does this belief in miracles (of "digitalisation") come from?
  71. Kiza says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    first, even in the fevered minds of our neocons, the spectre of a nuclear apocalypse is awful enough to induce a reluctance to play nuclear chicken – they would be loathe to abandon their comfortable lairs in the U.S.
     
    True. Even the most hysterical "experts" among them get a sense that the war with Russia is something US didn't have to deal since 1944 and even then, the parallels are very shaky.

    Second, the realisation had dawned regarding U.S.’ significant disadvantage in conventional strength – which would include non-nuclear advanced tech, such as kinetic etc.
     
    The foundation of Pax Americana narrative IS greatly advertised US being unequal in the world in concventio0nal military terms. Technological dimension of US strategies obscures completely other: tactical, operational, social, what have you, factors which influence the outcome in the armed struggle. There are number of this narrative key points which are easily challenged both theoretically and practically. The foundation of this challenge is a simple question: when was the last time US won forget peer, even near peer adversary? Not since 1945 when magnificent US Navy effectively won Pacific War. Since then I can not even recall US facing off against even remotely comparable (in capability and resolve) adversary. Neither is US claim on the exclusiveness of its Precision-Guided Munitions (PGM) withstands any critique based on facts. USSR used Laser and TV guided weapons in Afghanistan as early as 1980-81. It is a complex question and requires a very long elaborations (that's what I do in my blog) but it was 08-08-08 when neocons (or Borg, or whatever) understood that the end was near. As per that:

    Finally, my sense of the global play is one which sets greater store by the notion that Putin, is in fact – well a precise term escapes me at the moment – really an allied co-payer in the One Government theory, a very powerful regional “potentate” at that, merely re-negotiating a disagreement regarding the outlines of his region. He has no intention to bring back the old Soviet model of an equal foe of the West. Its far too expensive.
     
    Eurasian economic entity is inevitable. No, Putin doesn't want new USSR, nor Russian people want that either. Yes, you are in a sense correct that it is about "renegotiating" the fate of Russian realm, which is now a sovereign nation, but this means only one thing--the collapse of US global model by default, hence such a fever pitch hysteria. Putin knows it, I know it, that US of 2016 and US of 1991 are two different countries. US is in a departure mode from uni-polarity, towards multi-polar world and Russia's conventional and nuclear capabilities are there to ensure that this departure goes more-or-less peacefully. One can not fight the truth and... X101 cruise missiles;-)

    The Ziocons better get your memo on “inevitability” very soon or the World may end. It appears that you truely believe that Washington is scared by the Russian nuclear deterrent!? Maybe you need a trip to D.C. to start appreciating the atmosphere there – D.C. is stuck in the “end of history 90s”. The generation of wonks, the latte class of Washington, still sees US in the mono-polar context or in the context of preserving the mono-polarity (the smarter ones). Now I understand why you so grossly underestimate the danger – The Russians believe that the US is scared of the Russian nuclear weapons, whilst the US leadership is stil too punch drunk from the global dominance party of the 90s to be scared of anything.

    If other Russians, and especially the Russian leadership, appreciate the situation the way you do then the world is up the creek without a peddle. It is a very, very dangerous thinking mismatch.

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  72. @Regnum Nostrum

    In other words, those who have military training and know how to survive will, eventually, emerge as local feudal class.

     

    Actually those who have military training are unlikely to survive because they represent the least intelligent elements of society. The more intelligent people have identified long time ago the regions on this planet which will remain relatively unscathed by possible nuclear exchanges. They are either living in those regions already or are ready to move there with first sign of trouble. No need for so called military training or "military skills". You assume, wrongly as usual, that the possible nuclear war will impact all the countries with equal devastation. That of course is nonsense.

    You may be underestimating the average intelligence and capacities of the American soldier. The majority of the armed forces is white and, while often not having much formal education post-HS before the military, has a lot of intellectually average and above-average men. Can’t write off that whole bunch, or even the majority of it, as unintelligent.

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  73. @Regnum Nostrum

    In other words, those who have military training and know how to survive will, eventually, emerge as local feudal class.

     

    Actually those who have military training are unlikely to survive because they represent the least intelligent elements of society. The more intelligent people have identified long time ago the regions on this planet which will remain relatively unscathed by possible nuclear exchanges. They are either living in those regions already or are ready to move there with first sign of trouble. No need for so called military training or "military skills". You assume, wrongly as usual, that the possible nuclear war will impact all the countries with equal devastation. That of course is nonsense.

    People in countries not directly hit by nukes will, unfortunately, have a hard time surviving with the radioactive fallout that will make its way around the world by air and by water. Where would the safe drinking and cooking water come from?

    As for moving to a less-affected area “at the first sign of trouble”: when things break down, perhaps fairly suddenly, how exactly do these superior people get to the airport and take a flight that will not even be operating?

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    People in countries not directly hit by nukes will, unfortunately, have a hard time surviving with the radioactive fallout that will make its way around the world by air and by water. Where would the safe drinking and cooking water come from?
     
    I suggest you get acquainted with the data on Chernobyl. You may try a wonderful documentary Pandora's Promise, made even more remarkable since it was made by tree-hugging liberal. I will reiterate, in Counter-value exchange tens of millions people will die, but many millions will survive. I am talking, of course, about countries of Russia, US and Canada size. Nuclear war is horrible but Counter-force and Counter-value are two different universes and profiles of escalation and exchanges are very different. In counter-value one kills everything, from military installations to large population areas. Yes, this is scenario which leaves very few chances for Europeans, as an example, or Japanese, and it will escalate into global nuclear exchange where no one will be spared. Counter-force looks to destroy national command authorities and primarily military and MIC installations. Modern CEPs of nuclear weapons' delivery systems allow this. It is still horrible, but nobody is going to fvcking bomb Banff in Alberta or some backwater towns in US. If they are away from valuable installations and large urban centers (which do have such installations) they have fair chances of survival.
  74. @Regnum Nostrum
    Another pearl of wisdom from our under appreciated genius. You should publish your incoherent quotations in a book form. I propose to call it 5371 gems of knowledge by a confused sage. It might become even more popular than Bible, another collection of incoherent babble.

    Much of the Bible is quite coherent and contains moral and life lessons that are hard to argue with, from experience. Of course there is a lot of useless genealogy and fantastical made-up nonsense, as well, but that doesn’t detract from the moral and practical wisdom to be found in the New Testament and to some extent the OT.

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  75. @Quartermaster
    Much will depend on what those pencil pushers do. It may well turn out that if you try to put a bullet to the base of the skull of someone that you will be signing your own death warrant simply by trying.

    And then there are pencil pushers like me, who are well equipped, armed, prepared and willing to blow your fucking arrogant head off if you try to harm us.

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  76. Kiza says:
    @Miro23

    "A Trump victory would introduce a level of uncertainty in to the world that Israel fears"
     
    I wouldn't disagree with that, but probably a more fundamental shift is digital technology and the uncontrolled spread of information.

    Among all the benefits of digitalization, a downside is that privacy is fast disappearing, with the unusual situation that the government suddenly knows all about the public and the public knows all about the government. The world is not the same when everyone is walking round with a video camera (as HRC recently discovered).

    The relevance, is that there has been a fast spread of factual information, about Israel's serial False Flag operations against Britain and the US (King David Hotel, Lavon, USS Liberty and 9/11) that is reaching a tipping point of public awareness. Israel and US Zionists could reasonably have expected the information to stay hidden, given their dominance of traditional media sources, and it would probably have been a correct supposition up to about 10 years ago.

    Mass digitalization seems to have caught them unawares so they find themselves in an existential situation where they have to (soon) have a dictatorship in the United States to neutralize any dissent. It looks to some extent as if the situation was anticipated, with 9/11 designed to fix the problem, but since it mostly failed, they are obliged to try again.

    It's a dangerous position for the many Israelis who want their country to be an honest partner in a community of nations( rather than be shackled to a group of Likud terrorists), but it's up to them and US Jews to deal with the Zionist extremists.

    Am I the only pessimist here or you people live in a different universe to mine? Israelis and US Jews to deal with Likudnik extremists, you got to be kidding!?!? In which universe would that happen? Without US Jewish extremists, the Likudniks would not even exist. You expect the mother to kill its child!? The Israelis keep electing Likudniks time after time, but hey, you expect them to somehow come to their senses?

    One thing I have learned about people is that they never change unless the reality hits them back on the head like hundred tons of brick, and not even then. Where does this belief in miracles (of “digitalisation”) come from?

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  77. Andrei Martyanov [AKA "SmoothieX12"] says: • Website

    The Ziocons better get your memo on “inevitability” very soon or the World may end. It appears that you truely believe that Washington is scared by the Russian nuclear deterrent!?

    When I believe in something–I usually explain that I believe and not know. In this particular case I don’t believe, I know and I am pretty damn sure about it. Not only that, I know for a fact that D.C. sure as hell knows that Russia has the most modern and advanced nuclear deterrent in the world. For starters you may compare the age of youngest US Navy’s SSBN of Ohio-class with that of the oldest Russian Navy’s Project 955 Borei-class SSBN. I may detest neocons and I am keenly aware on utter incompetence of US “academe” and political-class on war, but I am very confident that even war-monger Ash Carter knows for sure that should he overplay his hand he may not live to see what comes out of it. I am also confident that US military people are actually the most competent and knowledgeable about this whole thing among US “power” elites. Yes, ziocons (or whatever is currently popular) are scared and that is why they are hysterical and resort to only one thing they are competent in–BSing people.

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    Then you consider political careerists such as Gen. Breedlove to be afraid of the Russian nuclear weapons!? You are analysing something as irrational as a possibility of a global nuclear war by applying principles of rationality!? Swell! You must be some kind of engineer or a technical person (a technocrat), a type of person who counts and compares pieces of weaponry, their speed, the megatons of explosive power and so on. People like you reject the fundamental irrationality of the world (which they are afraid off in themselves as well as in others). Everything in human society must be organised and as rationally structured as the laws of physics. You remind me a bit of Saker, he exhibited similar tendencies some years ago. This is exactly why I considered you to be young, because of your inability to comprehend the level of irrationality in people (specifically Ziocons or "whatever is currently popular"). If your favorite politician, come military leader, Ashton Carter (this is also why I am guessing that you are a techno like the PhD in physics Carter) thinks like you, then maybe the US will seriously take into account the number of missiles and the megatons of the Russian nuclear weapons and the superiority of its SSBNs (submarines). But maybe Ashton is not a techno any more, maybe he converted into politico.

    Let us take your distinction between what you call the Counter-force and the Counter-value as a good example. Maybe Russia is primarily targeting the US nuclear silos and nuclear missile navigation centers (counter-force), but rest assured that, even if US is not targeting Russian cities (which it is), both sides will end up in your "counter-value" after the first few millions of collateral damage from counter-force (how could rational people such as you not comprehend something as rational as this). In other words, even if the military planning on both sides was to start the nuclear war in the counter-force mode, it is not how the nuclear war would end and your distinction between the counter-force and the counter-value is another techno-military-wank.

    According to you, the US politico-military establishment could NOT get locked up into a plan of applying maximum economic and military pressure to collapse Russia the way it collapsed Soviet Union (only 10 times faster because they are in a hurry now) and when this plan proves not to work they will be able to back off instead of falling off a nuclear cliff. This is really how little you understand things.

    Gee, thinking like yours is so dangerous, because you cannot comprehend that things can and rather will run out of control; people are not always masters of their own destiny, they do not always make rational decisions based on laws of physics.

    We have reached an impasse in this discussion and no point continuing.

    PS. I truly laughed at your mention of that sold out greeny who made a propaganda documentary about Chernobyl disaster on behalf of the Western nuclear industry, in which he introduces the mega-BS concept of the beneficial level of nuclear radiation to humans. You people are nuts!!!

    , @Regnum Nostrum

    I know for a fact that D.C. sure as hell knows that Russia has the most modern and advanced nuclear deterrent in the world. For starters you may compare the age of youngest US Navy’s SSBN of Ohio-class with that of the oldest Russian Navy’s Project 955 Borei-class SSBN.
     
    Do you mean superior technology like the leaking torpedo on the submarine Kursk which took the whole thing to the bottom of the sea. What a tragic farce. State of the art submarine destroyed by a leaking torpedo. A nice example of Russian sloppiness, a characteristic shared by most Slavs in equal measure. Perhaps you have on your mind Bulava, the submarine launched ballistic missile and its high rate of failure. Due to the delays in Bulava's development, the launch of the fourth Borei-class submarine, Svyatitel Nikolay, has been pushed back. Perhaps you think of the modern tank Armata which broke down during a rehearsal for a military parade. Oh yes that famous Admiral Kuznetsov which breaks down with incredible regularity and is followed everywhere by a tugboat just in case it needs to be towed back to harbour. I am sure Shoigu is praying every day for its successful arrival to the Mediterranean. I could go on and on but my time is precious so I will only give couple more examples. The first is about the only two satellites used to monitor missiles from space which have both stopped functioning. Russia currently does not have the capability to observe missile launches from near orbit. The second is about aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov bought by India which had seven out of eight steam boilers of the propulsion machinery out of order during sea trials by Indian navy. That might be the reason why India, a traditional Russian customer when it comes to weaponry, has decided to by its latest batch of fighter planes from France. Let me close with a few quotes.

    The Russian military has started to reform after the Georgia conflict—but only small portions of its forces have transitioned to the “new model.” More than two-thirds of Russia’s armed forces—particularly the ground forces—still follow the old Soviet conscript model and are still armed with increasingly decrepit Soviet-era hardware. Even the majority of Russia’s forces fighting in Syria are using modernized hardware from the 1970s.

     


    The Russian defense-industrial base has markedly atrophied since the Soviet collapse in 1991. The country fell behind in many crucial technological areas, particularly during the 1990s. For example, the Russians are well behind on key technologies for building precision weapons, targeting pods and active electronically scanned array radars—which are just a few examples. Shipbuilding is yet another weak spot—Russia no longer has the capability to build large warships the size of a carrier and it uses antiquated construction techniques. It might eventually be able to regain those capabilities—but it’ll be a long wait.

     

    Keep dreaming if you want to but the waking up will be brutal.
  78. Andrei Martyanov [AKA "SmoothieX12"] says: • Website
    @RadicalCenter
    People in countries not directly hit by nukes will, unfortunately, have a hard time surviving with the radioactive fallout that will make its way around the world by air and by water. Where would the safe drinking and cooking water come from?

    As for moving to a less-affected area "at the first sign of trouble": when things break down, perhaps fairly suddenly, how exactly do these superior people get to the airport and take a flight that will not even be operating?

    People in countries not directly hit by nukes will, unfortunately, have a hard time surviving with the radioactive fallout that will make its way around the world by air and by water. Where would the safe drinking and cooking water come from?

    I suggest you get acquainted with the data on Chernobyl. You may try a wonderful documentary Pandora’s Promise, made even more remarkable since it was made by tree-hugging liberal. I will reiterate, in Counter-value exchange tens of millions people will die, but many millions will survive. I am talking, of course, about countries of Russia, US and Canada size. Nuclear war is horrible but Counter-force and Counter-value are two different universes and profiles of escalation and exchanges are very different. In counter-value one kills everything, from military installations to large population areas. Yes, this is scenario which leaves very few chances for Europeans, as an example, or Japanese, and it will escalate into global nuclear exchange where no one will be spared. Counter-force looks to destroy national command authorities and primarily military and MIC installations. Modern CEPs of nuclear weapons’ delivery systems allow this. It is still horrible, but nobody is going to fvcking bomb Banff in Alberta or some backwater towns in US. If they are away from valuable installations and large urban centers (which do have such installations) they have fair chances of survival.

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    Hey Smoothie,

    it will escalate into global nuclear exchange where no one will be spared
     
    Why, what's the use and moral imperative to bomb Jakarta or Rio or Cape Town (or Tokyo)? What the hell have they done to be involved in this MAD-ness?

    Peace.
  79. Talha says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    People in countries not directly hit by nukes will, unfortunately, have a hard time surviving with the radioactive fallout that will make its way around the world by air and by water. Where would the safe drinking and cooking water come from?
     
    I suggest you get acquainted with the data on Chernobyl. You may try a wonderful documentary Pandora's Promise, made even more remarkable since it was made by tree-hugging liberal. I will reiterate, in Counter-value exchange tens of millions people will die, but many millions will survive. I am talking, of course, about countries of Russia, US and Canada size. Nuclear war is horrible but Counter-force and Counter-value are two different universes and profiles of escalation and exchanges are very different. In counter-value one kills everything, from military installations to large population areas. Yes, this is scenario which leaves very few chances for Europeans, as an example, or Japanese, and it will escalate into global nuclear exchange where no one will be spared. Counter-force looks to destroy national command authorities and primarily military and MIC installations. Modern CEPs of nuclear weapons' delivery systems allow this. It is still horrible, but nobody is going to fvcking bomb Banff in Alberta or some backwater towns in US. If they are away from valuable installations and large urban centers (which do have such installations) they have fair chances of survival.

    Hey Smoothie,

    it will escalate into global nuclear exchange where no one will be spared

    Why, what’s the use and moral imperative to bomb Jakarta or Rio or Cape Town (or Tokyo)? What the hell have they done to be involved in this MAD-ness?

    Peace.

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    Why, what’s the use and moral imperative to bomb Jakarta or Rio or Cape Town (or Tokyo)? What the hell have they done to be involved in this MAD-ness?
     
    Put yourself in a position of a nuclear nation and you will understand. Countries are like humans in many respects. They will to the last moment defend their realm and that means not allowing a survivors come and occupy it. Having said all that, counter-value is a stuff of nightmares and only modern day Turgidsons can dream about it.
  80. Andrei Martyanov [AKA "SmoothieX12"] says: • Website
    @Talha
    Hey Smoothie,

    it will escalate into global nuclear exchange where no one will be spared
     
    Why, what's the use and moral imperative to bomb Jakarta or Rio or Cape Town (or Tokyo)? What the hell have they done to be involved in this MAD-ness?

    Peace.

    Why, what’s the use and moral imperative to bomb Jakarta or Rio or Cape Town (or Tokyo)? What the hell have they done to be involved in this MAD-ness?

    Put yourself in a position of a nuclear nation and you will understand. Countries are like humans in many respects. They will to the last moment defend their realm and that means not allowing a survivors come and occupy it. Having said all that, counter-value is a stuff of nightmares and only modern day Turgidsons can dream about it.

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    Countries are like humans in many respects.
     
    That may be so, but if I'm in a slugging match for my life with some guy over my house, I may even contemplate burning down my own house to prevent him from getting it as a last resort, but I wouldn't contemplate killing some other random guy and his kids just because they may possibly occupy my house in the future if my opponent and I are dead.

    If that happens and both Russia and the US basically try to kill off as many people as possible that have nothing to do with anything - I have very little confidence that Christianity will be able to recover from the inability of any of its moral institutions to prevent such a nightmare - especially as an exchange between two ostensibly Christian nations. It will also be the death of any post-modern notion that human beings have 'progressed' - indeed the Mongols were more merciful than this.

    Which keeps bringing me back to my same conclusion - these weapons should be banned across the board by everyone. We were able to do it with slavery (a near-universal institution), so I'm sure we could do it with this issue. I don't think the citizens on either side want to be incinerated because of the idiocy of their elites nor do they want to vaporize the children of the other side. Immense pressure should be brought to bear to get rid of these things. If not within this generation, then at least our children should be thought to hate these indiscriminate weapons with a passion - the stakes are too high.

    Peace.
  81. Talha says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    Why, what’s the use and moral imperative to bomb Jakarta or Rio or Cape Town (or Tokyo)? What the hell have they done to be involved in this MAD-ness?
     
    Put yourself in a position of a nuclear nation and you will understand. Countries are like humans in many respects. They will to the last moment defend their realm and that means not allowing a survivors come and occupy it. Having said all that, counter-value is a stuff of nightmares and only modern day Turgidsons can dream about it.

    Countries are like humans in many respects.

    That may be so, but if I’m in a slugging match for my life with some guy over my house, I may even contemplate burning down my own house to prevent him from getting it as a last resort, but I wouldn’t contemplate killing some other random guy and his kids just because they may possibly occupy my house in the future if my opponent and I are dead.

    If that happens and both Russia and the US basically try to kill off as many people as possible that have nothing to do with anything – I have very little confidence that Christianity will be able to recover from the inability of any of its moral institutions to prevent such a nightmare – especially as an exchange between two ostensibly Christian nations. It will also be the death of any post-modern notion that human beings have ‘progressed’ – indeed the Mongols were more merciful than this.

    Which keeps bringing me back to my same conclusion – these weapons should be banned across the board by everyone. We were able to do it with slavery (a near-universal institution), so I’m sure we could do it with this issue. I don’t think the citizens on either side want to be incinerated because of the idiocy of their elites nor do they want to vaporize the children of the other side. Immense pressure should be brought to bear to get rid of these things. If not within this generation, then at least our children should be thought to hate these indiscriminate weapons with a passion – the stakes are too high.

    Peace.

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    That may be so, but if I’m in a slugging match for my life with some guy over my house, I may even contemplate burning down my own house to prevent him from getting it as a last resort, but I wouldn’t contemplate killing some other random guy and his kids just because they may possibly occupy my house in the future if my opponent and I are dead.
     
    National stakes are usually much higher, because they are not about some individual or even collection of individual houses. They are about, in case of first rate nuclear powers, about much more. BTW, that is where Huntington was right when he concluded that: "States define their interests in terms of power but also in terms of much else besides..."
    , @5371
    [We were able to do it with slavery (a near-universal institution), so I’m sure we could do it with this issue.]

    There's no advantage to cheating and not freeing some of your slaves, or to keeping the ability to get a new slave.
  82. Kiza says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    The Ziocons better get your memo on “inevitability” very soon or the World may end. It appears that you truely believe that Washington is scared by the Russian nuclear deterrent!?
     
    When I believe in something--I usually explain that I believe and not know. In this particular case I don't believe, I know and I am pretty damn sure about it. Not only that, I know for a fact that D.C. sure as hell knows that Russia has the most modern and advanced nuclear deterrent in the world. For starters you may compare the age of youngest US Navy's SSBN of Ohio-class with that of the oldest Russian Navy's Project 955 Borei-class SSBN. I may detest neocons and I am keenly aware on utter incompetence of US "academe" and political-class on war, but I am very confident that even war-monger Ash Carter knows for sure that should he overplay his hand he may not live to see what comes out of it. I am also confident that US military people are actually the most competent and knowledgeable about this whole thing among US "power" elites. Yes, ziocons (or whatever is currently popular) are scared and that is why they are hysterical and resort to only one thing they are competent in--BSing people.

    Then you consider political careerists such as Gen. Breedlove to be afraid of the Russian nuclear weapons!? You are analysing something as irrational as a possibility of a global nuclear war by applying principles of rationality!? Swell! You must be some kind of engineer or a technical person (a technocrat), a type of person who counts and compares pieces of weaponry, their speed, the megatons of explosive power and so on. People like you reject the fundamental irrationality of the world (which they are afraid off in themselves as well as in others). Everything in human society must be organised and as rationally structured as the laws of physics. You remind me a bit of Saker, he exhibited similar tendencies some years ago. This is exactly why I considered you to be young, because of your inability to comprehend the level of irrationality in people (specifically Ziocons or “whatever is currently popular”). If your favorite politician, come military leader, Ashton Carter (this is also why I am guessing that you are a techno like the PhD in physics Carter) thinks like you, then maybe the US will seriously take into account the number of missiles and the megatons of the Russian nuclear weapons and the superiority of its SSBNs (submarines). But maybe Ashton is not a techno any more, maybe he converted into politico.

    Let us take your distinction between what you call the Counter-force and the Counter-value as a good example. Maybe Russia is primarily targeting the US nuclear silos and nuclear missile navigation centers (counter-force), but rest assured that, even if US is not targeting Russian cities (which it is), both sides will end up in your “counter-value” after the first few millions of collateral damage from counter-force (how could rational people such as you not comprehend something as rational as this). In other words, even if the military planning on both sides was to start the nuclear war in the counter-force mode, it is not how the nuclear war would end and your distinction between the counter-force and the counter-value is another techno-military-wank.

    According to you, the US politico-military establishment could NOT get locked up into a plan of applying maximum economic and military pressure to collapse Russia the way it collapsed Soviet Union (only 10 times faster because they are in a hurry now) and when this plan proves not to work they will be able to back off instead of falling off a nuclear cliff. This is really how little you understand things.

    Gee, thinking like yours is so dangerous, because you cannot comprehend that things can and rather will run out of control; people are not always masters of their own destiny, they do not always make rational decisions based on laws of physics.

    We have reached an impasse in this discussion and no point continuing.

    PS. I truly laughed at your mention of that sold out greeny who made a propaganda documentary about Chernobyl disaster on behalf of the Western nuclear industry, in which he introduces the mega-BS concept of the beneficial level of nuclear radiation to humans. You people are nuts!!!

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  83. Andrei Martyanov [AKA "SmoothieX12"] says: • Website

    Then you consider political careerists such as Gen. Breedlove to be afraid of the Russian nuclear weapons!? You are analysing something as irrational as a possibility of a global nuclear war by applying principles of rationality!? Swell! You must be some kind of engineer or a technical person (a technocrat), a type of person who counts and compares pieces of weaponry, their speed, the megatons of explosive power and so on. People like you reject the fundamental irrationality of the world

    You almost got it, I spent almost 11 years in Soviet Armed Forces, most of it on tactical (but also staff-operational) positions. I have a naval engineering degree (M.S.) from one of the best Soviet Naval Academies (I am a graduate), I am published in US, I also am writing a book precisely on the issue of military power and I am well acquainted with the stochastic nature of warfare. BTW, after Breedlove retired guess what he called for? People like me, usually, study this irrationality and specialize precisely in separating rhetorical BS and bullying from actual capability and intentions. But that is a completely different subject. There is a reason Shoigu wants sole Russian aircraft carrier in the Eastern Med by the mid-October. This is precisely for the reason of US not having anymore unified national command authority and to prevent precisely all those “irrational” things.

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    Let us see how this "prevention" goes. Maybe in your book you should consider that the only people who could have a chance of pulling the Ziocon crazies from the nuclear brink are only other US people. Shoygu can do very, very little of such pulling.

    But I am very glad that Russia is doing all these long range missile firings, bomber runs along NATO borders, snap military exercises and especially the nuclear force exercises. Reminders to the other side can seldom be wasted. Maybe the Ziocons would suffer a moment of clarity in their power drunken delirium and understand that their survival is not assured. But only if they do not think as you do that a global nuclear war is survivable in some counter-may-force-be-with-you mode. I would never bet on crazy people coming to their senses (I have a bit of a background in Psychiatry), but I would bet on a small chance that US collapses financially before it causes a nuclear war.

    Good luck with your book, I hope you will evolve one day from counting and comparing weapons to a holistic understanding of human power and control interactions just as Saker did. Maybe you need to watch some nature documentaries on the behavior of Primates.
  84. Andrei Martyanov [AKA "SmoothieX12"] says: • Website
    @Talha

    Countries are like humans in many respects.
     
    That may be so, but if I'm in a slugging match for my life with some guy over my house, I may even contemplate burning down my own house to prevent him from getting it as a last resort, but I wouldn't contemplate killing some other random guy and his kids just because they may possibly occupy my house in the future if my opponent and I are dead.

    If that happens and both Russia and the US basically try to kill off as many people as possible that have nothing to do with anything - I have very little confidence that Christianity will be able to recover from the inability of any of its moral institutions to prevent such a nightmare - especially as an exchange between two ostensibly Christian nations. It will also be the death of any post-modern notion that human beings have 'progressed' - indeed the Mongols were more merciful than this.

    Which keeps bringing me back to my same conclusion - these weapons should be banned across the board by everyone. We were able to do it with slavery (a near-universal institution), so I'm sure we could do it with this issue. I don't think the citizens on either side want to be incinerated because of the idiocy of their elites nor do they want to vaporize the children of the other side. Immense pressure should be brought to bear to get rid of these things. If not within this generation, then at least our children should be thought to hate these indiscriminate weapons with a passion - the stakes are too high.

    Peace.

    That may be so, but if I’m in a slugging match for my life with some guy over my house, I may even contemplate burning down my own house to prevent him from getting it as a last resort, but I wouldn’t contemplate killing some other random guy and his kids just because they may possibly occupy my house in the future if my opponent and I are dead.

    National stakes are usually much higher, because they are not about some individual or even collection of individual houses. They are about, in case of first rate nuclear powers, about much more. BTW, that is where Huntington was right when he concluded that: “States define their interests in terms of power but also in terms of much else besides…”

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    Hey Smoothie,

    I understand that in terms of material sense, but try arguing the case for a policy that obliterated three quarters of mankind in the court of God. It's the dimension of morality that I am bringing into the conversation - that the policy makers (the military complex in Pakistan is also not immune from this) can simply ignore it in their calculations again is an indictment on our failures to design the right safeguards.

    We live in a republic, Russia also observes parliamentary democratic norms - they are supposed to reflect the will of the people. How many people (on either side) do you think want a policy in place that will kill off (sometimes in the most gruesome of methods - you can read about what happened to the survivors in Hiroshima/Nagasaki) billions and pollute the world for generations? I haven't met a person yet that wants to do that if it can be avoided. Now if this is the general feeling among the populace then it is a colossal failure of our institutions to reflect the will of the people. On the other hand, if most of the people don't mind having this policy in place, then really, what can I say...it is a complete failure of our collective human spirit.

    Peace.
  85. Kiza says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    Then you consider political careerists such as Gen. Breedlove to be afraid of the Russian nuclear weapons!? You are analysing something as irrational as a possibility of a global nuclear war by applying principles of rationality!? Swell! You must be some kind of engineer or a technical person (a technocrat), a type of person who counts and compares pieces of weaponry, their speed, the megatons of explosive power and so on. People like you reject the fundamental irrationality of the world
     
    You almost got it, I spent almost 11 years in Soviet Armed Forces, most of it on tactical (but also staff-operational) positions. I have a naval engineering degree (M.S.) from one of the best Soviet Naval Academies (I am a graduate), I am published in US, I also am writing a book precisely on the issue of military power and I am well acquainted with the stochastic nature of warfare. BTW, after Breedlove retired guess what he called for? People like me, usually, study this irrationality and specialize precisely in separating rhetorical BS and bullying from actual capability and intentions. But that is a completely different subject. There is a reason Shoigu wants sole Russian aircraft carrier in the Eastern Med by the mid-October. This is precisely for the reason of US not having anymore unified national command authority and to prevent precisely all those "irrational" things.

    Let us see how this “prevention” goes. Maybe in your book you should consider that the only people who could have a chance of pulling the Ziocon crazies from the nuclear brink are only other US people. Shoygu can do very, very little of such pulling.

    But I am very glad that Russia is doing all these long range missile firings, bomber runs along NATO borders, snap military exercises and especially the nuclear force exercises. Reminders to the other side can seldom be wasted. Maybe the Ziocons would suffer a moment of clarity in their power drunken delirium and understand that their survival is not assured. But only if they do not think as you do that a global nuclear war is survivable in some counter-may-force-be-with-you mode. I would never bet on crazy people coming to their senses (I have a bit of a background in Psychiatry), but I would bet on a small chance that US collapses financially before it causes a nuclear war.

    Good luck with your book, I hope you will evolve one day from counting and comparing weapons to a holistic understanding of human power and control interactions just as Saker did. Maybe you need to watch some nature documentaries on the behavior of Primates.

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    "will evolve one day from counting and comparing weapons to a holistic understanding of human power and control interactions just as Saker did." - I can see signs of positive evolution in Saker but he still has a way to go from his nerdy fascinations with weapons and list making.
    , @Andrei Martyanov

    Good luck with your book, I hope you will evolve one day from counting and comparing weapons to a holistic understanding of human power and control interactions just as Saker did. Maybe you need to watch some nature documentaries on the behavior of Primates.
     
    I prefer to study humans, that is why I know War And Peace by heart.
  86. Talha says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    That may be so, but if I’m in a slugging match for my life with some guy over my house, I may even contemplate burning down my own house to prevent him from getting it as a last resort, but I wouldn’t contemplate killing some other random guy and his kids just because they may possibly occupy my house in the future if my opponent and I are dead.
     
    National stakes are usually much higher, because they are not about some individual or even collection of individual houses. They are about, in case of first rate nuclear powers, about much more. BTW, that is where Huntington was right when he concluded that: "States define their interests in terms of power but also in terms of much else besides..."

    Hey Smoothie,

    I understand that in terms of material sense, but try arguing the case for a policy that obliterated three quarters of mankind in the court of God. It’s the dimension of morality that I am bringing into the conversation – that the policy makers (the military complex in Pakistan is also not immune from this) can simply ignore it in their calculations again is an indictment on our failures to design the right safeguards.

    We live in a republic, Russia also observes parliamentary democratic norms – they are supposed to reflect the will of the people. How many people (on either side) do you think want a policy in place that will kill off (sometimes in the most gruesome of methods – you can read about what happened to the survivors in Hiroshima/Nagasaki) billions and pollute the world for generations? I haven’t met a person yet that wants to do that if it can be avoided. Now if this is the general feeling among the populace then it is a colossal failure of our institutions to reflect the will of the people. On the other hand, if most of the people don’t mind having this policy in place, then really, what can I say…it is a complete failure of our collective human spirit.

    Peace.

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    it is a complete failure of our collective human spirit.
     
    No, it is a complete failure of human spirit in very selective quarters of humanity. Current US "elite" qualifies perfectly--it is corrupt, ignorant and amoral for a reasons of US as a nation not being conditioned by continental warfare. There are very many things I like and love in the US, some of them are best, war-attitudes are not one of those. Those attitudes easily translate in the good ol' "Give them hell, Teddy" or " Remember The Maine, To Hell with Spain"--sets of policies which continue to exhibit their catastrophic results even today. The old truism that patriotism is directly proportional to the distance from the battle lines is perfectly applicable here.
  87. Sam Shama says:
    @Kiza
    Well, you are still younger.

    Regarding strategic postures, yes they have been completely reversed in the 90s. Before, whilst US relied on its "nuclear deterrent" against the numerically superior and better equipped and trained conventional Soviet forces, after Soviet Union fell apart it is Russia which now relies on its nuclear deterrent and US has stronger conventional forces. However, in the last 25 years US has also come out for the first time with the First Use doctrine, at least openly. It has also come out with the use of nuclear weapons in case of conventional defeat. One may say that these two doctrines were just not official before, that US would have defaulted to them anyway, as would have the Soviets as well. You are just incorrectly interpreting my sentence on the game of nuclear chicken to mean that the US is threatening Russia or will strike Russia nuclear first. My sentence means that despite strategic reversals etc, the situation is still the same as in the 50s: there must not be an open military conflict between US and Russia because it will quickly escalate into a global nuclear war (both sides know this, but US still plays the game of escalation and threats by placing conventional forces on Russian border). I have also mentioned this previously that, since US had nuclear targets in both Soviet Union and China even in the 50s when those two countries were very unfriendly, it is likely that the contemporary nuclear exchange once started would quickly involve all other nuclear powers of the World (use it or lose it, China hitting back US, India hitting Pakistan and v.v., Israel hitting Iran and so on). Once nuclear weapons are used by anyone, their strategic value changes, that is diminishes towards tactical use.

    I for one have been saying many times that there is a race between the US financial collapse and a start of war/nuclear war, which one will happen first. You may wish to continue that discussion with Sam Shama, because he still appears to believe that the US mountain of debt will never come tumbling down. US has been surviving this mountain only thanks to its World reserve currency status, which is now trickling away. The US debt is increasing whilst US$ World reserve and exchange currency status is decreasing. Since the fundament of finance is trust there must be a point of collapse somewhere in this trend. Sam Shama does not accept this. I have no time for a detailed discussion, but ths appears to be a point that you and I agree upon.

    Smoothie, nice contributions at Moon of Alabama. My regards

    There are essentially two conditions under which U.S. Public Debt can come “tumbling down” – I am assuming by that term you imply a catastrophic reduction in value.

    [Note: corporate and private debt, both of which contracted as public debt soared, corporate less, and then resuming its growth, but private credit/debt growth still very low and shows little sign of picking up anytime soon]

    So, Public debt i.e. U.S. Treasury issued notes and bonds, which are backed by the full faith and guarantee of the U.S. government, can suffer drastic fall in value, if:

    (1) there is a catastrophic reduction in U.S. productive capacity, which results in a drawdown in the sovereign’s ability to service this debt. Interest service currently requires around one percent of the gdp, and maturing face somewhere around three percent. Now if inflation rises above 2%, say 2.5% then the real burdens are accordingly lowered. At this rate U.S current stock of debt will be fully defeased in 6-7 years. Assuming normal growth of 3% U.S. public debt dynamics are more than manageable.

    (2) there is a hyper-inflationary episode lasting a year, and as such all outstanding debt is rendered valueless. Such an economic calamity can occur when (1) does, [Weimar]. Should this occur it would cause great hardship for all bondholders including China, Japan and Europe.

    (3) China’s entry as a global reserve [it still isn't , and inclusion in SDR hardly implies automatic adoption as prime reserve] , creation of the AIB, etc. are good outcomes for global economic stability. It will lead to greater central bank system co-ordination and substitutability, lead to lowered volatility of international reserve requirements and generally beneficial for credit. Trade volume increases denominated in RMB will lead to greater global trade and lowered burdens on the U.S. banking system to initiate liquidity and capital swaps during episodes of distress. Put differently, the global pie is going to get much bigger, and, should that lead to the U.S. getting a larger absolute but smaller proportional slice, ought only be welcomed or at least viewed with equanimity.

    So I cannot readily identify an obvious set of circumstances which will likely lead to (1) and/or (2), or indeed, as some would have it, be the unavoidable destination we are headed for.

    I should like to understand where and how, this loss of productive capacity [not just mind you, a more balanced global economy as discussed in (3) ] is going to befall the U.S.

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    Sam, I am sure you know that I respect you and your opinion very much. This is why to engage in a serious discussion about US finances I would have to do literature research to get some decent references and reliable data (not US Gov data, BLS or Fed data). I would have to almost write a book (lol) to produce a strong argument for what I feel in my bones. For me the issue is not IF the collapse will happen, only WHEN and I would not try to answer the trillion dollar question on the timing (if I am even qualified to try to answer such a big question).

    Unfortunately, I do not have time to do something like this and to dispute your main point.

    For example, I do agree with you that US$ has not been truly replaced by another currency yet and the Chinese are doing terrible shenanigans with Yuan at the moment, but you cannot say that many countries have not been trying to find a replacement for US$, due to its mad printing by the Fed. When there is a need, eventually a replacement will be found and then there will be no going back to US$ (bye, bye US hegemony).

    You are also correct that the speed of US$ replacement depends on one offs such as an explosion of hyper-inflation. How many times do you think could US pull such rabbit out of a hat? How long would it take the little Chinese businessmen to realise that US$, which they are rushing into to launder and take their money out of China, is much more toxic than their own currency or gold (which would then climb to $10K an ounce)? Inflation can cancel US debt, but it is a one trick pony.

    In short, you could call people like I the "Chicken Littles" (we are too radical to be called "bears" any more) but kindly peruse this video clip because it has a Jewish financial guy telling the crappy Jewish financial news media just what I feel as well: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-22/fleckenstein-slams-cnbc-jerk-dont-get-my-face-because-i-wont-join-your-party.

    In other words Sam, you will be right until you are wrong and you cannot claim that you are always right on this just because you have never been wrong before. Best regards.

  88. utu says:
    @Kiza
    Let us see how this "prevention" goes. Maybe in your book you should consider that the only people who could have a chance of pulling the Ziocon crazies from the nuclear brink are only other US people. Shoygu can do very, very little of such pulling.

    But I am very glad that Russia is doing all these long range missile firings, bomber runs along NATO borders, snap military exercises and especially the nuclear force exercises. Reminders to the other side can seldom be wasted. Maybe the Ziocons would suffer a moment of clarity in their power drunken delirium and understand that their survival is not assured. But only if they do not think as you do that a global nuclear war is survivable in some counter-may-force-be-with-you mode. I would never bet on crazy people coming to their senses (I have a bit of a background in Psychiatry), but I would bet on a small chance that US collapses financially before it causes a nuclear war.

    Good luck with your book, I hope you will evolve one day from counting and comparing weapons to a holistic understanding of human power and control interactions just as Saker did. Maybe you need to watch some nature documentaries on the behavior of Primates.

    “will evolve one day from counting and comparing weapons to a holistic understanding of human power and control interactions just as Saker did.” – I can see signs of positive evolution in Saker but he still has a way to go from his nerdy fascinations with weapons and list making.

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  89. Kiza says:
    @Sam Shama
    There are essentially two conditions under which U.S. Public Debt can come "tumbling down" - I am assuming by that term you imply a catastrophic reduction in value.

    [Note: corporate and private debt, both of which contracted as public debt soared, corporate less, and then resuming its growth, but private credit/debt growth still very low and shows little sign of picking up anytime soon]

    So, Public debt i.e. U.S. Treasury issued notes and bonds, which are backed by the full faith and guarantee of the U.S. government, can suffer drastic fall in value, if:

    (1) there is a catastrophic reduction in U.S. productive capacity, which results in a drawdown in the sovereign's ability to service this debt. Interest service currently requires around one percent of the gdp, and maturing face somewhere around three percent. Now if inflation rises above 2%, say 2.5% then the real burdens are accordingly lowered. At this rate U.S current stock of debt will be fully defeased in 6-7 years. Assuming normal growth of 3% U.S. public debt dynamics are more than manageable.

    (2) there is a hyper-inflationary episode lasting a year, and as such all outstanding debt is rendered valueless. Such an economic calamity can occur when (1) does, [Weimar]. Should this occur it would cause great hardship for all bondholders including China, Japan and Europe.

    (3) China's entry as a global reserve [it still isn't , and inclusion in SDR hardly implies automatic adoption as prime reserve] , creation of the AIB, etc. are good outcomes for global economic stability. It will lead to greater central bank system co-ordination and substitutability, lead to lowered volatility of international reserve requirements and generally beneficial for credit. Trade volume increases denominated in RMB will lead to greater global trade and lowered burdens on the U.S. banking system to initiate liquidity and capital swaps during episodes of distress. Put differently, the global pie is going to get much bigger, and, should that lead to the U.S. getting a larger absolute but smaller proportional slice, ought only be welcomed or at least viewed with equanimity.

    So I cannot readily identify an obvious set of circumstances which will likely lead to (1) and/or (2), or indeed, as some would have it, be the unavoidable destination we are headed for.

    I should like to understand where and how, this loss of productive capacity [not just mind you, a more balanced global economy as discussed in (3) ] is going to befall the U.S.

    Sam, I am sure you know that I respect you and your opinion very much. This is why to engage in a serious discussion about US finances I would have to do literature research to get some decent references and reliable data (not US Gov data, BLS or Fed data). I would have to almost write a book (lol) to produce a strong argument for what I feel in my bones. For me the issue is not IF the collapse will happen, only WHEN and I would not try to answer the trillion dollar question on the timing (if I am even qualified to try to answer such a big question).

    Unfortunately, I do not have time to do something like this and to dispute your main point.

    For example, I do agree with you that US$ has not been truly replaced by another currency yet and the Chinese are doing terrible shenanigans with Yuan at the moment, but you cannot say that many countries have not been trying to find a replacement for US$, due to its mad printing by the Fed. When there is a need, eventually a replacement will be found and then there will be no going back to US$ (bye, bye US hegemony).

    You are also correct that the speed of US$ replacement depends on one offs such as an explosion of hyper-inflation. How many times do you think could US pull such rabbit out of a hat? How long would it take the little Chinese businessmen to realise that US$, which they are rushing into to launder and take their money out of China, is much more toxic than their own currency or gold (which would then climb to $10K an ounce)? Inflation can cancel US debt, but it is a one trick pony.

    In short, you could call people like I the “Chicken Littles” (we are too radical to be called “bears” any more) but kindly peruse this video clip because it has a Jewish financial guy telling the crappy Jewish financial news media just what I feel as well: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-22/fleckenstein-slams-cnbc-jerk-dont-get-my-face-because-i-wont-join-your-party.

    In other words Sam, you will be right until you are wrong and you cannot claim that you are always right on this just because you have never been wrong before. Best regards.

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  90. @Quartermaster
    A lot of irrelevancy here. Suffice it to say, the outcome of the Russian election was a forgone conclusion. When Putin "runs" for re-election in '18, the outcome will be known long before the ballots are cats. Putin is a firm believer in Stalin's saying about the importance of who counts the ballots.

    Electing Trump will do nothing that you fantasize about. He'll probably be better than Hillary, a known criminal, but that isn't saying much.

    Putin’s view on U.S. Elections:

    Why is Vladimir Putin being dragged into the US presidential election?

    http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2016/07/28/1008146-why-is-vladimir-putin-being-dragged-into-the-us-presidential-election/

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  91. 5371 says:
    @Talha

    Countries are like humans in many respects.
     
    That may be so, but if I'm in a slugging match for my life with some guy over my house, I may even contemplate burning down my own house to prevent him from getting it as a last resort, but I wouldn't contemplate killing some other random guy and his kids just because they may possibly occupy my house in the future if my opponent and I are dead.

    If that happens and both Russia and the US basically try to kill off as many people as possible that have nothing to do with anything - I have very little confidence that Christianity will be able to recover from the inability of any of its moral institutions to prevent such a nightmare - especially as an exchange between two ostensibly Christian nations. It will also be the death of any post-modern notion that human beings have 'progressed' - indeed the Mongols were more merciful than this.

    Which keeps bringing me back to my same conclusion - these weapons should be banned across the board by everyone. We were able to do it with slavery (a near-universal institution), so I'm sure we could do it with this issue. I don't think the citizens on either side want to be incinerated because of the idiocy of their elites nor do they want to vaporize the children of the other side. Immense pressure should be brought to bear to get rid of these things. If not within this generation, then at least our children should be thought to hate these indiscriminate weapons with a passion - the stakes are too high.

    Peace.

    [We were able to do it with slavery (a near-universal institution), so I’m sure we could do it with this issue.]

    There’s no advantage to cheating and not freeing some of your slaves, or to keeping the ability to get a new slave.

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    Hey 5371,

    No doubt, the inspections protocols would have to be top notch and be built to be impervious to meddling by intelligence agencies. We could do it as a people. Would you want to get rid of these weapons if it could be guaranteed no one else has them? Only certain countries would need monitoring; it makes little sense to monitor The Gambia or Afghanistan. Funding the inspections organization would take a fraction of what it takes to maintain the weapons.

    Peace.
  92. @Andrei Martyanov

    The Ziocons better get your memo on “inevitability” very soon or the World may end. It appears that you truely believe that Washington is scared by the Russian nuclear deterrent!?
     
    When I believe in something--I usually explain that I believe and not know. In this particular case I don't believe, I know and I am pretty damn sure about it. Not only that, I know for a fact that D.C. sure as hell knows that Russia has the most modern and advanced nuclear deterrent in the world. For starters you may compare the age of youngest US Navy's SSBN of Ohio-class with that of the oldest Russian Navy's Project 955 Borei-class SSBN. I may detest neocons and I am keenly aware on utter incompetence of US "academe" and political-class on war, but I am very confident that even war-monger Ash Carter knows for sure that should he overplay his hand he may not live to see what comes out of it. I am also confident that US military people are actually the most competent and knowledgeable about this whole thing among US "power" elites. Yes, ziocons (or whatever is currently popular) are scared and that is why they are hysterical and resort to only one thing they are competent in--BSing people.

    I know for a fact that D.C. sure as hell knows that Russia has the most modern and advanced nuclear deterrent in the world. For starters you may compare the age of youngest US Navy’s SSBN of Ohio-class with that of the oldest Russian Navy’s Project 955 Borei-class SSBN.

    Do you mean superior technology like the leaking torpedo on the submarine Kursk which took the whole thing to the bottom of the sea. What a tragic farce. State of the art submarine destroyed by a leaking torpedo. A nice example of Russian sloppiness, a characteristic shared by most Slavs in equal measure. Perhaps you have on your mind Bulava, the submarine launched ballistic missile and its high rate of failure. Due to the delays in Bulava’s development, the launch of the fourth Borei-class submarine, Svyatitel Nikolay, has been pushed back. Perhaps you think of the modern tank Armata which broke down during a rehearsal for a military parade. Oh yes that famous Admiral Kuznetsov which breaks down with incredible regularity and is followed everywhere by a tugboat just in case it needs to be towed back to harbour. I am sure Shoigu is praying every day for its successful arrival to the Mediterranean. I could go on and on but my time is precious so I will only give couple more examples. The first is about the only two satellites used to monitor missiles from space which have both stopped functioning. Russia currently does not have the capability to observe missile launches from near orbit. The second is about aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov bought by India which had seven out of eight steam boilers of the propulsion machinery out of order during sea trials by Indian navy. That might be the reason why India, a traditional Russian customer when it comes to weaponry, has decided to by its latest batch of fighter planes from France. Let me close with a few quotes.

    The Russian military has started to reform after the Georgia conflict—but only small portions of its forces have transitioned to the “new model.” More than two-thirds of Russia’s armed forces—particularly the ground forces—still follow the old Soviet conscript model and are still armed with increasingly decrepit Soviet-era hardware. Even the majority of Russia’s forces fighting in Syria are using modernized hardware from the 1970s.

    The Russian defense-industrial base has markedly atrophied since the Soviet collapse in 1991. The country fell behind in many crucial technological areas, particularly during the 1990s. For example, the Russians are well behind on key technologies for building precision weapons, targeting pods and active electronically scanned array radars—which are just a few examples. Shipbuilding is yet another weak spot—Russia no longer has the capability to build large warships the size of a carrier and it uses antiquated construction techniques. It might eventually be able to regain those capabilities—but it’ll be a long wait.

    Keep dreaming if you want to but the waking up will be brutal.

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    You couldn't even get the sub's name right, ignorant clown.
    , @attonn
    Russians still have four early warnings satellites in orbit... which of them stopped functioning?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US-K

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US-KMO

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EKS_(satellite_system)
    , @Kiza
    I am sure that you will be on the front lines during the Anglo-Zionist invasion of Russia since the Russian weapons are too decrepit to present any danger to the avid war advocates such as you.
  93. Talha says:
    @5371
    [We were able to do it with slavery (a near-universal institution), so I’m sure we could do it with this issue.]

    There's no advantage to cheating and not freeing some of your slaves, or to keeping the ability to get a new slave.

    Hey 5371,

    No doubt, the inspections protocols would have to be top notch and be built to be impervious to meddling by intelligence agencies. We could do it as a people. Would you want to get rid of these weapons if it could be guaranteed no one else has them? Only certain countries would need monitoring; it makes little sense to monitor The Gambia or Afghanistan. Funding the inspections organization would take a fraction of what it takes to maintain the weapons.

    Peace.

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    • Replies: @RobinG
    ....bumbling along...

    This somewhat dated and slightly EU oriented CounterPunch piece is still relevant. Consider that both Code Pink and Democracy Now have lauded the terrorist-affiliated "White Helmets" who this week received the Right Livelihood Award.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5k6hSS6xBTw
    The Syria White Helmets Exposed as US UK Agents Embedded with Al Nusra and ISIS

    As per our conversation, the footnote is the most relevant part: "[1] On the occasion of the recent NATO summit in Chicago, Amnesty International launched a campaign of posters calling on NATO to “keep up the progress” on behalf of women in Afghanistan, without explaining, or even raising the question as to how a military organization was supposed to accomplish such an objective."
    http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/12/04/beware-the-anti-anti-war-left/
    Beware the Anti-Anti-War Left
  94. Andrei Martyanov [AKA "SmoothieX12"] says: • Website
    @Talha
    Hey Smoothie,

    I understand that in terms of material sense, but try arguing the case for a policy that obliterated three quarters of mankind in the court of God. It's the dimension of morality that I am bringing into the conversation - that the policy makers (the military complex in Pakistan is also not immune from this) can simply ignore it in their calculations again is an indictment on our failures to design the right safeguards.

    We live in a republic, Russia also observes parliamentary democratic norms - they are supposed to reflect the will of the people. How many people (on either side) do you think want a policy in place that will kill off (sometimes in the most gruesome of methods - you can read about what happened to the survivors in Hiroshima/Nagasaki) billions and pollute the world for generations? I haven't met a person yet that wants to do that if it can be avoided. Now if this is the general feeling among the populace then it is a colossal failure of our institutions to reflect the will of the people. On the other hand, if most of the people don't mind having this policy in place, then really, what can I say...it is a complete failure of our collective human spirit.

    Peace.

    it is a complete failure of our collective human spirit.

    No, it is a complete failure of human spirit in very selective quarters of humanity. Current US “elite” qualifies perfectly–it is corrupt, ignorant and amoral for a reasons of US as a nation not being conditioned by continental warfare. There are very many things I like and love in the US, some of them are best, war-attitudes are not one of those. Those attitudes easily translate in the good ol’ “Give them hell, Teddy” or ” Remember The Maine, To Hell with Spain”–sets of policies which continue to exhibit their catastrophic results even today. The old truism that patriotism is directly proportional to the distance from the battle lines is perfectly applicable here.

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  95. Andrei Martyanov [AKA "SmoothieX12"] says: • Website
    @Kiza
    Let us see how this "prevention" goes. Maybe in your book you should consider that the only people who could have a chance of pulling the Ziocon crazies from the nuclear brink are only other US people. Shoygu can do very, very little of such pulling.

    But I am very glad that Russia is doing all these long range missile firings, bomber runs along NATO borders, snap military exercises and especially the nuclear force exercises. Reminders to the other side can seldom be wasted. Maybe the Ziocons would suffer a moment of clarity in their power drunken delirium and understand that their survival is not assured. But only if they do not think as you do that a global nuclear war is survivable in some counter-may-force-be-with-you mode. I would never bet on crazy people coming to their senses (I have a bit of a background in Psychiatry), but I would bet on a small chance that US collapses financially before it causes a nuclear war.

    Good luck with your book, I hope you will evolve one day from counting and comparing weapons to a holistic understanding of human power and control interactions just as Saker did. Maybe you need to watch some nature documentaries on the behavior of Primates.

    Good luck with your book, I hope you will evolve one day from counting and comparing weapons to a holistic understanding of human power and control interactions just as Saker did. Maybe you need to watch some nature documentaries on the behavior of Primates.

    I prefer to study humans, that is why I know War And Peace by heart.

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    Enjoy your posts as usually. How is the book going on?
  96. 5371 says:
    @Regnum Nostrum

    I know for a fact that D.C. sure as hell knows that Russia has the most modern and advanced nuclear deterrent in the world. For starters you may compare the age of youngest US Navy’s SSBN of Ohio-class with that of the oldest Russian Navy’s Project 955 Borei-class SSBN.
     
    Do you mean superior technology like the leaking torpedo on the submarine Kursk which took the whole thing to the bottom of the sea. What a tragic farce. State of the art submarine destroyed by a leaking torpedo. A nice example of Russian sloppiness, a characteristic shared by most Slavs in equal measure. Perhaps you have on your mind Bulava, the submarine launched ballistic missile and its high rate of failure. Due to the delays in Bulava's development, the launch of the fourth Borei-class submarine, Svyatitel Nikolay, has been pushed back. Perhaps you think of the modern tank Armata which broke down during a rehearsal for a military parade. Oh yes that famous Admiral Kuznetsov which breaks down with incredible regularity and is followed everywhere by a tugboat just in case it needs to be towed back to harbour. I am sure Shoigu is praying every day for its successful arrival to the Mediterranean. I could go on and on but my time is precious so I will only give couple more examples. The first is about the only two satellites used to monitor missiles from space which have both stopped functioning. Russia currently does not have the capability to observe missile launches from near orbit. The second is about aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov bought by India which had seven out of eight steam boilers of the propulsion machinery out of order during sea trials by Indian navy. That might be the reason why India, a traditional Russian customer when it comes to weaponry, has decided to by its latest batch of fighter planes from France. Let me close with a few quotes.

    The Russian military has started to reform after the Georgia conflict—but only small portions of its forces have transitioned to the “new model.” More than two-thirds of Russia’s armed forces—particularly the ground forces—still follow the old Soviet conscript model and are still armed with increasingly decrepit Soviet-era hardware. Even the majority of Russia’s forces fighting in Syria are using modernized hardware from the 1970s.

     


    The Russian defense-industrial base has markedly atrophied since the Soviet collapse in 1991. The country fell behind in many crucial technological areas, particularly during the 1990s. For example, the Russians are well behind on key technologies for building precision weapons, targeting pods and active electronically scanned array radars—which are just a few examples. Shipbuilding is yet another weak spot—Russia no longer has the capability to build large warships the size of a carrier and it uses antiquated construction techniques. It might eventually be able to regain those capabilities—but it’ll be a long wait.

     

    Keep dreaming if you want to but the waking up will be brutal.

    You couldn’t even get the sub’s name right, ignorant clown.

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    • Replies: @Regnum Nostrum
    Unlike you I do not pretend to have a monopoly on truth and as a consequence I am always willing to accept new facts. So what is the real name of the submarine Kursk?
  97. attonn says:
    @Mark Bartalmai
    Do you think, Mr. Israel Shamir, that Putin first of all tries to restore Russias strength, sovereignity and ability to defend itself and then he may work on a step-by-step variant to restore more socialist or even communist ideas? Or is he (in your opinion) just a more moderate (and a bit more people focused) liberal politician? Is he comparable to LePen, Trump and other populist leaders? Basically capitalistic and sometimes far-right but not imperialistic? What is your opinion?

    Russia will not survive another socialist or communist “paradise”, Putin knows that. He also knows that capitalism works. Private property and private initiative work. The USA is collapsing not because of capitalism, but because it had become a quasi-socialist deformity. With productive people taxed to death, their money transferred to both super-rich parasites and bottom dwelling parasites – that’s not capitalism. That’s the most hideous form of socialism. Why would Putin want to try that?

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  98. attonn says:
    @Regnum Nostrum

    I know for a fact that D.C. sure as hell knows that Russia has the most modern and advanced nuclear deterrent in the world. For starters you may compare the age of youngest US Navy’s SSBN of Ohio-class with that of the oldest Russian Navy’s Project 955 Borei-class SSBN.
     
    Do you mean superior technology like the leaking torpedo on the submarine Kursk which took the whole thing to the bottom of the sea. What a tragic farce. State of the art submarine destroyed by a leaking torpedo. A nice example of Russian sloppiness, a characteristic shared by most Slavs in equal measure. Perhaps you have on your mind Bulava, the submarine launched ballistic missile and its high rate of failure. Due to the delays in Bulava's development, the launch of the fourth Borei-class submarine, Svyatitel Nikolay, has been pushed back. Perhaps you think of the modern tank Armata which broke down during a rehearsal for a military parade. Oh yes that famous Admiral Kuznetsov which breaks down with incredible regularity and is followed everywhere by a tugboat just in case it needs to be towed back to harbour. I am sure Shoigu is praying every day for its successful arrival to the Mediterranean. I could go on and on but my time is precious so I will only give couple more examples. The first is about the only two satellites used to monitor missiles from space which have both stopped functioning. Russia currently does not have the capability to observe missile launches from near orbit. The second is about aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov bought by India which had seven out of eight steam boilers of the propulsion machinery out of order during sea trials by Indian navy. That might be the reason why India, a traditional Russian customer when it comes to weaponry, has decided to by its latest batch of fighter planes from France. Let me close with a few quotes.

    The Russian military has started to reform after the Georgia conflict—but only small portions of its forces have transitioned to the “new model.” More than two-thirds of Russia’s armed forces—particularly the ground forces—still follow the old Soviet conscript model and are still armed with increasingly decrepit Soviet-era hardware. Even the majority of Russia’s forces fighting in Syria are using modernized hardware from the 1970s.

     


    The Russian defense-industrial base has markedly atrophied since the Soviet collapse in 1991. The country fell behind in many crucial technological areas, particularly during the 1990s. For example, the Russians are well behind on key technologies for building precision weapons, targeting pods and active electronically scanned array radars—which are just a few examples. Shipbuilding is yet another weak spot—Russia no longer has the capability to build large warships the size of a carrier and it uses antiquated construction techniques. It might eventually be able to regain those capabilities—but it’ll be a long wait.

     

    Keep dreaming if you want to but the waking up will be brutal.

    Russians still have four early warnings satellites in orbit… which of them stopped functioning?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US-K

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US-KMO

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EKS_(satellite_system)

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    • Replies: @Regnum Nostrum

    As of June 2014, only two of the eight satellites in orbit were still functional, rendering the system inoperable.

     

    Before you provide links you should read them. The sentence above is at the end of the first paragraph in your first link. The remaining two satellites ceased to function later. The system of early warning satellites, a hopelessly outdated legacy of USSR, is being replaced but it will take till 2020 before the new satellites are in place.
  99. RobinG says:
    @Talha
    Hey 5371,

    No doubt, the inspections protocols would have to be top notch and be built to be impervious to meddling by intelligence agencies. We could do it as a people. Would you want to get rid of these weapons if it could be guaranteed no one else has them? Only certain countries would need monitoring; it makes little sense to monitor The Gambia or Afghanistan. Funding the inspections organization would take a fraction of what it takes to maintain the weapons.

    Peace.

    ….bumbling along…

    This somewhat dated and slightly EU oriented CounterPunch piece is still relevant. Consider that both Code Pink and Democracy Now have lauded the terrorist-affiliated “White Helmets” who this week received the Right Livelihood Award.

    The Syria White Helmets Exposed as US UK Agents Embedded with Al Nusra and ISIS

    As per our conversation, the footnote is the most relevant part: “[1] On the occasion of the recent NATO summit in Chicago, Amnesty International launched a campaign of posters calling on NATO to “keep up the progress” on behalf of women in Afghanistan, without explaining, or even raising the question as to how a military organization was supposed to accomplish such an objective.”

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/12/04/beware-the-anti-anti-war-left/

    Beware the Anti-Anti-War Left

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  100. Kiza says:
    @Regnum Nostrum

    I know for a fact that D.C. sure as hell knows that Russia has the most modern and advanced nuclear deterrent in the world. For starters you may compare the age of youngest US Navy’s SSBN of Ohio-class with that of the oldest Russian Navy’s Project 955 Borei-class SSBN.
     
    Do you mean superior technology like the leaking torpedo on the submarine Kursk which took the whole thing to the bottom of the sea. What a tragic farce. State of the art submarine destroyed by a leaking torpedo. A nice example of Russian sloppiness, a characteristic shared by most Slavs in equal measure. Perhaps you have on your mind Bulava, the submarine launched ballistic missile and its high rate of failure. Due to the delays in Bulava's development, the launch of the fourth Borei-class submarine, Svyatitel Nikolay, has been pushed back. Perhaps you think of the modern tank Armata which broke down during a rehearsal for a military parade. Oh yes that famous Admiral Kuznetsov which breaks down with incredible regularity and is followed everywhere by a tugboat just in case it needs to be towed back to harbour. I am sure Shoigu is praying every day for its successful arrival to the Mediterranean. I could go on and on but my time is precious so I will only give couple more examples. The first is about the only two satellites used to monitor missiles from space which have both stopped functioning. Russia currently does not have the capability to observe missile launches from near orbit. The second is about aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov bought by India which had seven out of eight steam boilers of the propulsion machinery out of order during sea trials by Indian navy. That might be the reason why India, a traditional Russian customer when it comes to weaponry, has decided to by its latest batch of fighter planes from France. Let me close with a few quotes.

    The Russian military has started to reform after the Georgia conflict—but only small portions of its forces have transitioned to the “new model.” More than two-thirds of Russia’s armed forces—particularly the ground forces—still follow the old Soviet conscript model and are still armed with increasingly decrepit Soviet-era hardware. Even the majority of Russia’s forces fighting in Syria are using modernized hardware from the 1970s.

     


    The Russian defense-industrial base has markedly atrophied since the Soviet collapse in 1991. The country fell behind in many crucial technological areas, particularly during the 1990s. For example, the Russians are well behind on key technologies for building precision weapons, targeting pods and active electronically scanned array radars—which are just a few examples. Shipbuilding is yet another weak spot—Russia no longer has the capability to build large warships the size of a carrier and it uses antiquated construction techniques. It might eventually be able to regain those capabilities—but it’ll be a long wait.

     

    Keep dreaming if you want to but the waking up will be brutal.

    I am sure that you will be on the front lines during the Anglo-Zionist invasion of Russia since the Russian weapons are too decrepit to present any danger to the avid war advocates such as you.

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    • Replies: @Regnum Nostrum
    Can you provide a single line in which I advocate war. If you bothered reading more than the latest of my comments and even this in a clearly careless and superficial manner you would know that the opposite is the truth. In any case I am not sure how my pointing to the deficiencies in Russian military and particularly my disputing of the often rosy and exaggerated odes on Russian technological superiority makes me a war advocate. Perhaps you would like to elaborate.
  101. Sergey says: • Website
    @Andrei Martyanov

    Good luck with your book, I hope you will evolve one day from counting and comparing weapons to a holistic understanding of human power and control interactions just as Saker did. Maybe you need to watch some nature documentaries on the behavior of Primates.
     
    I prefer to study humans, that is why I know War And Peace by heart.

    Enjoy your posts as usually. How is the book going on?

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  102. @Kiza
    I am sure that you will be on the front lines during the Anglo-Zionist invasion of Russia since the Russian weapons are too decrepit to present any danger to the avid war advocates such as you.

    Can you provide a single line in which I advocate war. If you bothered reading more than the latest of my comments and even this in a clearly careless and superficial manner you would know that the opposite is the truth. In any case I am not sure how my pointing to the deficiencies in Russian military and particularly my disputing of the often rosy and exaggerated odes on Russian technological superiority makes me a war advocate. Perhaps you would like to elaborate.

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    • Replies: @Kiza
    I would not. But instead I have a question for you: Russia has not invaded (or annexed part of) any other country by force of arms (Anglo-Zionist BS notwithstanding), Russia has practically always been on defensive. Then why does it matter to you if the Russian weapons are the most menacing in the World or if they are the most decrepit in the World? Those weapons are only for the defence of Russia and therefore it is only the concern of the Russians if they are good enough for the purpose. Outside of Russia, it is only those who are interested in attacking Russia who would be interested in the state of Russian weaponry.

    Here is your chance to "elaborate" and explain why the Russian weaponry is of your concern, if your kind is not thinking of attacking Russia, subject to leaving out the Anglo-Zionist bull of annexation (it is a return) as an argument.
  103. @attonn
    Russians still have four early warnings satellites in orbit... which of them stopped functioning?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US-K

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US-KMO

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EKS_(satellite_system)

    As of June 2014, only two of the eight satellites in orbit were still functional, rendering the system inoperable.

    Before you provide links you should read them. The sentence above is at the end of the first paragraph in your first link. The remaining two satellites ceased to function later. The system of early warning satellites, a hopelessly outdated legacy of USSR, is being replaced but it will take till 2020 before the new satellites are in place.

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    • Replies: @attonn
    That's not what you said, though, in your original post.

    You said that Russians had only two satellites, and both stopped functioning. Meaning they have NONE. Total blindness.

    In fact, Russians still have four working satellites, but they just can't ensure 24-hour coverage. That's what "inoperable" means in this case.

    Having 4 satellites is quite different from having zero, don't you think?
  104. @5371
    You couldn't even get the sub's name right, ignorant clown.

    Unlike you I do not pretend to have a monopoly on truth and as a consequence I am always willing to accept new facts. So what is the real name of the submarine Kursk?

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    • Replies: @5371
    The fourth of the Borei class is named Knyaz Vladimir, idiot.
  105. @Andrei Martyanov

    The consequences of Clinton’s victory will be as short-lived as we are, for she will deliver us the living hell of a nuclear war, and eternal dictatorship of the Iron Heel.
     
    If we are talking real nuclear war--there will be no Iron Heel. There will be a chaos of a numerous armed groups of survivors fighting for surviving resources in a number of localities not poisoned completely by radiation. Considering the fact that in case of such war first targets will be military targets (Counter-force) it really comes down to the absence of truly large and organized military force which is the only force capable of restoring some kind of order and, with it, bringing a dictatorship. Local dictatorships by local warlords, atrocities etc.? Yes. No Iron Heel, though. Oligarchy's "bodyguards" will be first to finish off their masters. In other words, those who have military training and know how to survive will, eventually, emerge as local feudal class. I simply can not imagine, try as I might, Robert Kagan or Bill Kristol not shitting their pants, thus impeding their escape, when meeting people who don't care about their faux-scholarship and are merely interested in expropriating whatever valuables they accumulated. Surviving gated communities will be number 1 target for the new order of the land and, boy, we all know how fierce all those Wall Street banksters are--true warriors;-)

    Exactly my thoughts. Current situation when merchant class and their puppets are running the show is aberration in human history. The world noble always comes from one background and that’s military one.
    Can one imagine Gate or Buffet commanding any loyalty from their hired goons if scenario you have been describing would become reality? These people lack any necessary personal qualities prerequisite to command loyalty. No wonder they are always behind the screen avoiding direct responsibility at all cost acting like puppet masters never risking anything.
    Every single warlord in history commanded loyalty of their troops or retinue based upon their martial abilities and human qualities which merchant classes and their representatives aka Kagans and so forth lack by definition.
    They are going to be sweet morsels if the system which supports their rule comes down crashing due to their own stupidity. These elites are effectively cutting branches on which their power and very existence rests.

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  106. @Mark Bartalmai
    Do you think, Mr. Israel Shamir, that Putin first of all tries to restore Russias strength, sovereignity and ability to defend itself and then he may work on a step-by-step variant to restore more socialist or even communist ideas? Or is he (in your opinion) just a more moderate (and a bit more people focused) liberal politician? Is he comparable to LePen, Trump and other populist leaders? Basically capitalistic and sometimes far-right but not imperialistic? What is your opinion?

    I see no reason to believe he harbours some socialist or communist ideas, or that he wants to establish a new empire or re-create the USSR. I think he is a moderate liberal politician. But very lucky and very successful one.

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  107. 5371 says:
    @Regnum Nostrum
    Unlike you I do not pretend to have a monopoly on truth and as a consequence I am always willing to accept new facts. So what is the real name of the submarine Kursk?

    The fourth of the Borei class is named Knyaz Vladimir, idiot.

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    • Replies: @Regnum Nostrum
    Svyatitel Nikolay was the name under which the construction has started. It was later postponed and the name changed to Knyaz Vladimir. Most likely in order to confuse western intelligence otherwise they might get the wrong idea that it takes Russians half a century to build a sub. In your case they succeeded. It is still unfinished. Whatever the name it changes nothing on the not so great shape of Russian military. If you sometimes try to make some meaningful contribution instead of nitpicking about unsubstantial matters it will be appreciated. If you think that by calling me idiot every five minutes you will somehow improve the Russian military or detract from my intellect you are mistaken.
  108. attonn says:
    @Regnum Nostrum

    As of June 2014, only two of the eight satellites in orbit were still functional, rendering the system inoperable.

     

    Before you provide links you should read them. The sentence above is at the end of the first paragraph in your first link. The remaining two satellites ceased to function later. The system of early warning satellites, a hopelessly outdated legacy of USSR, is being replaced but it will take till 2020 before the new satellites are in place.

    That’s not what you said, though, in your original post.

    You said that Russians had only two satellites, and both stopped functioning. Meaning they have NONE. Total blindness.

    In fact, Russians still have four working satellites, but they just can’t ensure 24-hour coverage. That’s what “inoperable” means in this case.

    Having 4 satellites is quite different from having zero, don’t you think?

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  109. @5371
    The fourth of the Borei class is named Knyaz Vladimir, idiot.

    Svyatitel Nikolay was the name under which the construction has started. It was later postponed and the name changed to Knyaz Vladimir. Most likely in order to confuse western intelligence otherwise they might get the wrong idea that it takes Russians half a century to build a sub. In your case they succeeded. It is still unfinished. Whatever the name it changes nothing on the not so great shape of Russian military. If you sometimes try to make some meaningful contribution instead of nitpicking about unsubstantial matters it will be appreciated. If you think that by calling me idiot every five minutes you will somehow improve the Russian military or detract from my intellect you are mistaken.

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    • Replies: @5371
    If you ever got anything right there is no telling what it might do for your credibility, idiot. The world's most powerful microscopes might actually be able to detect it. A necessary, but very far from sufficient step would be paying some attention to the dates of what you mindlessly gooogle, copy and paste, rather than desperately hiding them. Your intellect would still be nonexistent and the Russian military unaffected by your drivel, but at least you would for the first time be making some attempt at honesty.
  110. 5371 says:
    @Regnum Nostrum
    Svyatitel Nikolay was the name under which the construction has started. It was later postponed and the name changed to Knyaz Vladimir. Most likely in order to confuse western intelligence otherwise they might get the wrong idea that it takes Russians half a century to build a sub. In your case they succeeded. It is still unfinished. Whatever the name it changes nothing on the not so great shape of Russian military. If you sometimes try to make some meaningful contribution instead of nitpicking about unsubstantial matters it will be appreciated. If you think that by calling me idiot every five minutes you will somehow improve the Russian military or detract from my intellect you are mistaken.

    If you ever got anything right there is no telling what it might do for your credibility, idiot. The world’s most powerful microscopes might actually be able to detect it. A necessary, but very far from sufficient step would be paying some attention to the dates of what you mindlessly gooogle, copy and paste, rather than desperately hiding them. Your intellect would still be nonexistent and the Russian military unaffected by your drivel, but at least you would for the first time be making some attempt at honesty.

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  111. Kiza says:
    @Regnum Nostrum
    Can you provide a single line in which I advocate war. If you bothered reading more than the latest of my comments and even this in a clearly careless and superficial manner you would know that the opposite is the truth. In any case I am not sure how my pointing to the deficiencies in Russian military and particularly my disputing of the often rosy and exaggerated odes on Russian technological superiority makes me a war advocate. Perhaps you would like to elaborate.

    I would not. But instead I have a question for you: Russia has not invaded (or annexed part of) any other country by force of arms (Anglo-Zionist BS notwithstanding), Russia has practically always been on defensive. Then why does it matter to you if the Russian weapons are the most menacing in the World or if they are the most decrepit in the World? Those weapons are only for the defence of Russia and therefore it is only the concern of the Russians if they are good enough for the purpose. Outside of Russia, it is only those who are interested in attacking Russia who would be interested in the state of Russian weaponry.

    Here is your chance to “elaborate” and explain why the Russian weaponry is of your concern, if your kind is not thinking of attacking Russia, subject to leaving out the Anglo-Zionist bull of annexation (it is a return) as an argument.

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    • Replies: @Regnum Nostrum

    Russia has practically always been on defensive.

     

    I agree.

    Then why does it matter to you if the Russian weapons are the most menacing in the World or if they are the most decrepit in the World?

     

    It does not mater to me at all. The same way it does not matter to me if people believe that the Earth is flat. I just want to point out that things might not be as they believe. I make my point and this is it. Whether people want to continue believing their fallacy does not matter to me because it has no effect on how I live. I have never portrayed Russian weapons as decrepit. On the other hand the glowing accounts of Russian technological superiority are not true.

    Those weapons are only for the defence of Russia and therefore it is only the concern of the Russians if they are good enough for the purpose.

     

    I agree again but that does not mean that I cannot have an opinion.

    Here is your chance to “elaborate” and explain why the Russian weaponry is of your concern, if your kind is not thinking of attacking Russia.

     

    So according to you only people who want to attack Russia are interested in their weaponry? That is strange logic. Its like saying that if I am interested in cars I want to steal them.
  112. @Kiza
    I would not. But instead I have a question for you: Russia has not invaded (or annexed part of) any other country by force of arms (Anglo-Zionist BS notwithstanding), Russia has practically always been on defensive. Then why does it matter to you if the Russian weapons are the most menacing in the World or if they are the most decrepit in the World? Those weapons are only for the defence of Russia and therefore it is only the concern of the Russians if they are good enough for the purpose. Outside of Russia, it is only those who are interested in attacking Russia who would be interested in the state of Russian weaponry.

    Here is your chance to "elaborate" and explain why the Russian weaponry is of your concern, if your kind is not thinking of attacking Russia, subject to leaving out the Anglo-Zionist bull of annexation (it is a return) as an argument.

    Russia has practically always been on defensive.

    I agree.

    Then why does it matter to you if the Russian weapons are the most menacing in the World or if they are the most decrepit in the World?

    It does not mater to me at all. The same way it does not matter to me if people believe that the Earth is flat. I just want to point out that things might not be as they believe. I make my point and this is it. Whether people want to continue believing their fallacy does not matter to me because it has no effect on how I live. I have never portrayed Russian weapons as decrepit. On the other hand the glowing accounts of Russian technological superiority are not true.

    Those weapons are only for the defence of Russia and therefore it is only the concern of the Russians if they are good enough for the purpose.

    I agree again but that does not mean that I cannot have an opinion.

    Here is your chance to “elaborate” and explain why the Russian weaponry is of your concern, if your kind is not thinking of attacking Russia.

    So according to you only people who want to attack Russia are interested in their weaponry? That is strange logic. Its like saying that if I am interested in cars I want to steal them.

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  113. JL says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    perhaps even closer than during the Cuban missile crisis
     
    No. Not even close. Albeit I don't like the trend in general.

    No. Not even close.

    Are you sure?

    http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN11Y37J

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