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An age-long discussion of Jewish attitudes to non-Jews had been pushed out of the central stage by the counter-discussion of goyim’s attitudes to Jews (beastly, anti-Semitic, prejudiced, leading to Holocaust, denying humanity). In the still uncensored corners and nooks of the Web, one still can find references to Jewish holy books and what do they allegedly say about non-Jews. All these references are soundly trashed and refuted by a plethora of Jewish sites robustly defending Talmud and later texts. The defenders of Jewish faith say that the quotes mean something completely different, they are taken out of context and the translation is wrong anyway. Or, often, they say that such a quote can’t be found in the mentioned book, or even the book can’t be found.

Without aiming to reverse the trend or to bring the discussion to a conclusion, we shall amuse you by a funny tidbit of Jewish lore, which is usually flatly denied by Jewish defenders. It is a reference to Midrash Talpiyot that had been known to debunkers of Judaism, saying that gentiles (goyim, or non-Jews) are beasts in human shape.

Midrash Talpiyot (or Talpiot, Talpiyoth) is a once-widely-popular and still-entertaining collection of Jewish lore assembled by a leading personality of XVIII c. Rabbi Eliyahu HaCohen of Izmir (or Elijah ben Solomon Abraham Ha-Kohen of Smyrna) (d. 1729). We shall call him RES. He is better known as the author of Shevet Musar (published in Constantinople 1712, and numerous editions afterwards), a collection of his sermons, one of the most popular books on ethics of his time. He was a brilliant and knowledgeable man, able to deliver a sermon on unusual subjects. I love his discussion of superiority of dogs over cats – dogs kept quiet when sons of Israel escaped Egypt with stolen loot, and thus acquired merit. (It was translated into English and makes a delightful and non-controversial reading). He was a great believer in harmony, in divine justice, in merit as the reason for any achievement.

In modern American Jewish sites, he is somewhat disparagingly called “a Turkish Jew”. In his days, Jews lived in Ottoman Empire and in Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth; so it is a Polish Jew or a Turkish Jew. Smyrna (Izmir) was a great centre of Jewish learning, and books of RES were translated into Yiddisch for the Polish Jews. They say he was a member of the heretical Sabbatean sect, and therefore all he wrote is of no value. He indeed flirted with Sabbateans for a while, like a good orthodox Communist would flirt with ideas of Trotsky or even Bogdanov. RES reverted to orthodoxy when it became necessary, and anyway his writing, including Talpiyot, had received imprimatur of leading rabbis of his time.

He was well versed in Kabbala, and this particular text from Talpiyot is based on Kabbalistic teachings. The author refers to “sod” (secret), the deepest level of exegetics.

It is a midrash, a search for deeper (often esoteric) meaning hidden in a normative text. Midrash is often quirky, usually entertaining and unexpected conclusion of delving into a text. It is located on the moot border between sheer fantasy and homiletics. For instance, Bible )Gn 24:1) says Abraham had been blessed “in all things” (בכל), and a midrash explains it as “Abraham had a daughter called Bakol, “In all things”. It is a part of Jewish reading and understanding, but it is often read with a grain of salt.

The normative text interpreted by this midrash is a well-known sentence from Talmud, uttered by the great sage R Shimon Bar Yohai, (Simeon bar Yochai), or RaSHBI. He discussed a technical question of impurity (or levitical uncleanness) caused by dead body in certain conditions. Apparently he had to explain why a dead body of non-Jew does not cause impurity. He did it by the way of midrash: he said that the biblical verse (Num 19:14) regarding impurity contains the word “adam”. Impurity has been caused by dead body of adam, while, he says, the word “adam” in the Bible never refers to a non-Jew. In his words, You (Jews) are called adam [in the Bible], while the non-Jews aren’t called adam. This was the beginning of a long dispute whether non-Jews are indeed human, and whether Jews consider non-Jews human. It will be dealt later, just bear in mind that RaSHBI was a great goy-hater of rather extreme kind.

The maxim of RaSHBI is found in a few places in Talmud [Yevamot 61a; Bava Metzia 114b; Keritut 6b].However, RES refers to Avodah Zarah, where indeed the sentence can be found in the Tosafot to page 3a. Tosafot are medieval commentaries to Talmud, usually printed together with the main text. Here you can see the page 3a of Avodah Zarah, where the left column contains Tosafot.

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Tosafot says that while adam refers to Jew in the Bible, ha-adam (ha being Hebrew definite article, like the in English) refers to human in general and includes non-Jews; likewise, ben-adam (son of adam) refers to human in general.

Actually, the Bible definitely uses “adam” in reference to gentiles, and the subject has been discussed in Yevamot 61a. Rabbis insisted that RaSHBI is right, even if it is obvious he isn’t. For example, adam is used in reference to Midianites in Num 31:45. Rabbis say that adam is used in contradistinction to cattle, as cattle is mentioned, too. They were good lawyers, never at loss for an answer.

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RES asks a good question: who cares whether the Bible uses the word ‘adam’ for Jews only, for we know that non-Jews are also human and they are the same as Jews in their appearance. And he answers this question disclosing a cabbalistic ‘secret’, that is the deepest meaning of the text. The Gentiles are actually non-human but beasts created to serve Jews. They have human shape for two very different reasons. One, it is more pleasant and respectable for a Jew to be served by a beast in human shape, than by a beast in a beast’s shape. Two, a non-Jew may join Jews, while if he were in the shape of beast, he wouldn’t be able to.

The Jews are adam, because God is called adam by prophet Ezekiel, and God and Jews are similar for God performed (or observed) mitzvot (plural of mitzvah, divine commandment) before He commanded Jews to do that. Gentiles can’t observe mitzvot (except seven commandments given to all mankind), or even study Torah for this study (excepting the seven commandments) is an exclusive prerogative of Jews, but a non-Jew can join Jews, and then he will become adam. A Jew is adam because he observes mitzvot. RES didn’t give a thought to lapsed Jews who do not observe mitzvot – probably they were very rare in his world, while nowadays they are majority of people who consider themselves Jewish.

Thus, RES’ outlook is not as racist as that of other rabbis we shall discuss further: for him, the Godlike status of a Jew conditioned on him observing commandments, and a non-Jew, though inherently a beast in human shape, can become a Jew, by God’s leave.

Here is the relevant text of Talpiyot in the original publication

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And here is this text:

מסכת ע”ז [עבודה זרה]: אתם קרוין אדם ואין העכו״ם קרוין אדם

א״ה [אמר המחבר]: וכי בשם תליא מלתא, דמה איכפת אם אינן קרויים אדם, כיון שכפי האמת הם אדם ואין הפרש בצורתם בינם לבין ישראל? אמנם, דע סוד הענין, כתיב: “ועל דמות הכסא כמראה אדם מלמעלה” וכו׳, ונמצא שהקב״ה נקרא אדם והוא צוה תרי״ג מצות לישראל, והמצות קיים אותם הקב״ה קודם שנתנם לישראל כאומרם חז״ל, ולכן כיון שאנו מקיימים המצות אנו קרוים אדם, כשם שנקרא הקב׳׳ה, ונמצא דבשם אדם שאנו מתכנים הוא עדות, שאנו דוקא דומיא להקב״ה, ונמצא על היותנו עושים מצותיו כמוהו.

לא כן עכו״ם, שאינן קרוים אדם והוא עדות שמובדלין ומופרשים הם מהקב״ה ועדות יש, שהרי אין שם הבורא עליהם דהיינו אדם, והם בהמות בצורת אדם, כי כל דרכיהם ומעשיהם כדרכי הבהמות, דחוץ מדרכי השם הכל מעשה בהמה יתקרי, ומיהו בראם הקב״ה בצורת אדם כישראל, מפני שהוא רב חסד מטה כלפי חסד, אם ירצו לידבק עם ישראל שיתדבקו, לא כן אם היו צורת בהמה.

ובמקום אחר כתבתי דבראם כצורת אדם לכבודם של ישראל, שלא נבראו העכו״ם כי אם לשמשם דיום ולילה לא ישבותו ממלאכתם, ואין כבוד לבן מלך שישמש אותו בהמה בצורת בהמה כי אם בהמה בצורה אדם.

And here is annotated translation:

AZ [Avodah Zarah, a tractate of Babylonian Talmud. The title means Alien Worship, usually translated as Idolatry, and so it is understood by modern Jews.] You are called Adam, and gentiles aren’t called Adam.

The Author said: Actually, what does it matter that they aren’t called Adam, if they are really human (Adam), and there is no difference between their appearance and the appearance of Israel? However, learn the secret of the matter. It is written [Ezekiel, 1:26] “above on the throne was a figure like that of a man (Adam) etc”. So we find that God is called Adam, and he commanded 613 commandments to Israel. These commandments were observed by God, before he gave them to Israel, as our Sages of blessed memory said. So, for the reason we observe the commandments we are called Adam, like God had been called. So we find that the name Adam we use is a witness that we are Godlike, for we observe the commandments as He does.

Not so the gentiles. They aren’t called Adam, and this is a witness that they are separated and removed from God, and the witness is that the name of Creator is not upon them, namely Adam. They are beasts (behema) in human (Adam) shape. All their ways and deeds are the ways of beasts, for what is not God’s way is called beastly deeds. And who created them, God created them in human (Adam) shape, like Israel, for He is full of grace, and benevolence; if they desire to stick to Israel, they may stick to, while they wouldn’t be able to, were they created in beast’s shape.

And elsewhere I wrote that God created them in the human (Adam) shape to show respect to Israel, as the gentiles weren’t created but to serve Israel day and night, without break, and it is not respectful for King’s son to be served by a beast in beast’s shape, it should be a beast in human (Adam) shape.

  • Adam (אדם) – Man, First Man, human, men, people. It is used in singular for plural subjects as well. In this text, few meanings of the word are used interchangeably. Plurality/singularity is frequent in Hebrew/Aramaic texts, see Israel, below. Adam the First Man has been great and Godlike; afterwards, men diminished and became less and less similar to Adam, until Israel came into being, and in Israel, Adam had been reborn to his godlike fullness. So the implication is that Israel is like Adam the First Man, Godlike, while non-Jews are not.
  • Gentiles (אומות האולם)– the MT text has akum (עכו”ם), literally star-worshippers. This is a term for a non-Jew, like goy or nochri, or ummot haolam. The quoted line in Talmud is available in these versions: ummot haolam (אומות האולם), or gentiles, or the nations of the world, or nochri (נוכרי) or aliens. These terms are interchangeable, likewise bene Noah (בני נוח) Sons of Noah. In the old days, when Jews were afraid of persecutions, whenever Jews were asked on their attitude to non-Jews, they usually said that akum refers only to ancient star-worshipers, not to modern Muslims or Christians. Nowadays this Jewish equivalent of Islamic taqiya (precautionary dissimulation or denial of religious belief and practice in the face of persecution) is rarely practiced. Talmud has been published in Israel with straightforward ummot haolam (gentiles) instead of deniable akum. In our text, RES speaks about his days and people of his time, not about some old history.
  • God (קב״ה) The Holy, Blessed be He, a Name of God used throughout this text.
  • Israel (ישראל) – Jews, Children of Israel. It is used in singular for plural subjects. The connected verb is usually used in plural. This singular-for-plural form supported a midrash homiletics: Jews are united as members of one body, that’s why they are plural-in-singular.
  • Behema (בהמה) In this text, the writer uses a specific word for beast – behema (בהמה) – a tame (as opposed to wild) animal; usually cow, camel, donkey . Hebrew dictionary explains: בהמה היא בריה הנתונה לשלטונו של האדם, behema is a creature in man’s dominion. English dictionary (Merriam-Webster ibid 1d) explains: beast is an animal under man’s control. Wild animals aren’t called behema; small pets (cats, dogs) aren’t called behema either.
  • Stick with Israel (לידבק עם ישראל) – join Israel, or join the Jews. This expression is used regarding Jethro, the priest of Midian and father-in-law of Moses (Exodus, 2). Bible says he understood “the Lord is greater than all the gods”. He knew that, the Sages remark, as previously he worshipped all the gods (idols). Rashi says that despite this recognition he did not want to join Israel, as he saw no advantage in it. Only when he saw the Red Sea Parting and the Battle of Amalek, he understood the advantage and joined Israel. The Red Sea Parting had been a great miracle; but he still hesitated as he had thought that Amalek is a tool of Divine Wrath. However, when Israel won the battle despite the odds, he understood that God loves Israel, and then he joined Israel. Rashi also uses this expression discussing Gibeonites. King David refused to allow them to join Israel, for they were lacking three criteria: being merciful, modest and charitable.
  • Without break (לא ישבתו ממלכתם) – they shall not cease doing their service, as in Genesis 8:22. The word contains שבת(Sabbath), so it implies that they should not have Sabbath rest, either.

On some sites dealing with Jewish-Gentile disputation, this quote of MT has been discussed. A typical response was: “A non-authoritative work that was done long after the Talmud. I don’t know what it says and frankly I don’t care. You also have to realize that many medieval works were done around the time of the Crusades with massive Christian persecution, so the message many Jews needed to hear to stay alive was an “us good, them bad” one. Update: Fred checked the Midrash Talpiot and couldn’t find this quotation anyhow. Thank you Fred!” Clearly this response has been given by an illiterate person; he did not know who is RES, and he did not know that he worked five hundred years after the Crusades, and he lived in the country free from Christian persecution. Anyway, now Fred will be able to find the quotation.

However, was the RES’ dim view of gentiles accepted by the Jews, or was it a one-time-off? Yes it was, but usually it was presented in a more nuanced way. A more important Jewish book of 20th century is Orot by R. Abraham Isaac Ha-Cohen Kook, a first Zionist Rabbi of Palestine (d. 1935), described as one of the most celebrated and influential rabbis of the 20th century. He wrote in this book:

The difference between the Jewish soul (ha-neshama), its essence etc, and the gentile soul (ha-neshama), – all of them on all their levels, – is greater and more essential than the difference between the spirit (nefesh) of the human being (ha-adam) and the spirit (nefesh) of the beast (behema).

Or in original Hebrew:

ההבדל שבין הנשמה הישראלית, עצמיותה וכו’ וכו’ ובין נשמת הגויים כולם לכל דרגותיהם, הוא יותר גדול ויותר עמוק מההבדל שבין נפש האדם ונפש הבהמה.

Instead of direct comparison of a non-Jew to a beast, our elder contemporary compares his spirit and finds it more close to that of a beast than to that of a Jew.

The English Wikipedia, being under Jewish control, has a dithyrambic article about R Kook. While a contributor tried to introduce a sub-chapter on Kook’s goy hatred and referred to this quote, Wikipedia’s gatekeepers blocked him:

I think this is a matter of undue weight. This is a short article and Rav Kook was known for many things, many wonderful teachings. I think it is undue weight to give this one out of context very damming quote about non-Jews. Bigglovetalk 22:04, 10 June 2008 (UTC).

You wouldn’t be amazed to learn that Bigglove prevailed and the quote can be found on the Talk page only.

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To conclude this already too long piece: there are more than one point of view among Jews on this subject. In postmodern times, there are LGBT “synagogues”, there are pork-eating “Jews”, there are female “rabbis”, and there are goy-loving and goy-hating “Jews”. The late great Prof Yeshayahu Leibowitz (d. 1994) used to say that a Jew can hold any belief at all or no belief whatsoever; he is only obliged to observe mitzvoth, commandments. For this reason Sabbateans (who didn’t observe some mitzvoth) broke with Judaism, while Chabad (who differ on dogma more than Sabbateans, but observe mitzvoth) remained within Jewish framework. The intention of this piece is not to establish a norm (Thou shall/shan’t hate a goy), but to show that denial of goy’s humanity existed in Jewish circles from Talmud to our days. And to entertain you with this titbit of the Jewish lore, for sure.

Israel Shamir can be reached at adam@israelshamir.net

This article was first published at The Unz Review.

 
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  1. Dan Hayes says:

    Israel,

    Where else except in the Unz Review can one find such an otherwise verboten topic?

    Thanks go to you and to Ron Unz who makes this all possible!

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    • Replies: @Judah Benjamin Hur

    Thanks go to you and to Ron Unz who makes this all possible!
     
    Yes, it's quite amazing. It's almost as if he is a member of the MASTER RACE. At the very least, I'd have to say he's definitely human.
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  2. Che Guava says:

    The English Wikipedia, being under Jewish control

    How true, Mr. Shamir. Nice to see a few of the worst deprived of their Precious (as in Gollum), the admin. or bureaucrat status at times, not that I waste any time on that place now.

    An interesting article, the first time I experienced Jewish people who clearly thought I was not human was in Japan, but I did not work out that that was what was going on until an experience or two overseas.

    On the other hand, I also had a cliched Jewish friend (as in accent, etc., Sephardic, I think) who I have no doubt saw me as human.

    Since the government cracked down on their illegal work by being strict on visas, not so many in Japan. That was many years ago. Israelis had free range for illegal businesses and work on tourist visas for many years, until about 15 years ago, it was a regular thing for post-conscription, the men would run illegal street-stalls with junk jewellery, some of them running drugs on the side, the women worked illegally as hostesses.

    I will be re-reading your article, it is interesting.

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    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Please elaborate on your experience with the Jews in nihon
  3. Non jews are animals who look like humans, because it would be improper for jews to be served by animals.
    This is what three rabbi’s write about jewish religious views.
    Those who want to read it google ‘gentiles in halacha’, you then find a site in hebrew, the language can be switched to english in an empty windom left above, at the right of this is the switch to english and german.

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  4. Since the days of Father Abraham war has been a favorite male pastime. In America, war’s only close rivals in popularity are NFL, Nascar and reality TV. The longest running reality show features the two most fundamentalist, Old Testament societies, Israel and the United States. The two more

    https://robertmagill.wordpress.com/2017/04/17/abrahams-sons-at-play/

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  5. vinteuil says:

    I think it’s important to understand that when it comes to the “interpretation” of texts, here, the crucial criterion is not *truth* – it’s *cleverness.*

    It’s all a big game, where the rules change at whim – but the winners are fixed ahead of time.

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    • Replies: @jacques sheete

    I think it’s important to understand that when it comes to the “interpretation” of texts, here, the crucial criterion is not *truth* – it’s *cleverness.*
     
    That's the truth, and it's clever too!
  6. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    there are goy-loving and goy-hating “Jews”.

    Will that matter when the pendulum swings? The “bad” Jews are playing a global game now so there’ll be no place on the Planet to expel them to.

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    • Replies: @Wally
    That's precisely why they created 'Israel'.

    Israel: a safe haven for slime balls.

  7. So what’s the official punishment for copulating with one (or more) of these ‘animals’? Leviticus and all that.
    Stop it, just stop it right now. All of you.

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  8. All these references are soundly trashed and refuted by a plethora of Jewish sites robustly defending Talmud and later texts. The defenders of Jewish faith say that the quotes mean something completely different, they are taken out of context and the translation is wrong anyway.

    This is typical and another side of it is that the smears against goyim live on and on

    ad infinitum.

    One that especially wrankles me is the still current charge of “anti-Semitism” against Charles Lindbergh the pilot. It’s utterly false as are some other particularly nasty charges against the man.

    Also, they can deny it all they want because one doesn’t have to go to ancient texts to find examples of anti-Goyism. All we have to do is look at how the State of Israel treats others and what some modern self appointed rabbis have to say about us. One could also read some of the comments by the hasbara brigade right here on UNZ.

    “Goyim [non-Jews] were born only to serve us.” Explaining why God allowed non-Jews long lives, he added: “Imagine that your donkey would die, you’d lose your income. [The donkey] is your servant. … That’s why he [the gentile] gets a long life, to work well for the Jew.”
    This summer, Yosef Elitzur and Yitzhak Shapira, who head an influential seminary in the West Bank settlement of Yitzhar, published The King’s Torah, a 230-page guide to how Jews should treat non-Jews.
    The two rabbis concluded that Jews were obligated to kill anyone who posed a danger, immediate or potential, to the Jewish people, and implied that all Palestinians were to be considered a threat. On these grounds, the pair justified killing Palestinian civilians and even their babies.

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2010/12/10/israel-s-racist-rabbis/print

    Lucky for the goyim that Jews have always been riven by factionalism, (read Josephus), and not all think that way.

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    • Replies: @Wally
    But the assault upon white gentiles unifies them, catch up.
    , @Durruti
    "One that especially wrankles me is the still current charge of “anti-Semitism” against Charles Lindbergh the pilot."

    I do not know about Lindbergh, but I am not an Anti-Semite; I like Arabs.

    Most Jews are not Semites (Semitic peoples originating from the Mid East). Read your Koestler.

    The Anti-Semites, for the most part, are the Jewish-Zionist-Land-Thieves, who are guilty of ethnically cleansing the indigenous Palestinian inhabitants of Palestine, and through the branches of their army (the Haganah - ISIS, Al Quaida, and with the puppet American Armed Forces in tow), are busy destroying the Arab nations of Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Sudan, Libya, and attempting the same in Egypt.

    How many people do you know who have attempted to correct the incorrect use of the pejorative term, Anti-Semitic?

    The misuse of language in the service of misdirection (False Flagging) of understanding, learning, concepts, is as old as oppression itself. Recall that - distortion - the misuse of language by ruling Oligarchs was the major point in George Orwell's famous 1984. Recall Winston's job? Worth a reread. The mislabeling of resistance fighters by their oppressors is an old trick. Hitler and Stalin's regimes used it often; the Zionist and American puppet regimes, and their kept Mainstream Media recite these distortions without blinking, without even thinking.

    Nice article Israel Shamir, nice comments jacques sheete. It is about time we corrected the misuse of the term, Anti-Semite, and connect the racist crime to its true culprits.

    I have made this correction here, and on other forums, but I am not famous, and no one listens.

    Durruti - for the Anarchist Collective

    , @San Fernando Curt
    "All we have to do is look at how the State of Israel treats others..."

    All we have to do is look at how the State of Israel treats its Others...

    ...In the vernacular.
  9. @vinteuil
    I think it's important to understand that when it comes to the "interpretation" of texts, here, the crucial criterion is not *truth* - it's *cleverness.*

    It's all a big game, where the rules change at whim - but the winners are fixed ahead of time.

    I think it’s important to understand that when it comes to the “interpretation” of texts, here, the crucial criterion is not *truth* – it’s *cleverness.*

    That’s the truth, and it’s clever too!

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  10. K says:

    Just because one jewish priest thought so, doesnt mean every jewish priest or every jewish person thought/thinks the same.

    Also, remember in olden times almost every culture/leaders of cultures in varying degrees called ‘outsiders’ as barbarians or beasts. It doesnt mean the people of those cultures nor all books of the culture/religion thought they were barbarian.

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    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    The word barbarian just means not being able to talk, brabble.
    I never ever saw that other people were regarded as animals disguised as men, in order to be able to serve those who uniquely were men.
    , @Anonymous
    I agree with this in principle.

    But the problem is that Jews like to label the goyim as anti-semites solely on the words of a small subgroup of people.

    If just one person in a group says the slightest antisemitic thing, that is enough grounds for Jews to label the whole group as Antisemitic and to try to punish them.

    Why can't we apply the same logic to Jews? Is it because there are rules for the chosen people and rules for the animals?
    , @Logan
    The endonym of almost every tribe on earth translates as "People" or "The People," implying that outsiders are NOT People. This is the human norm. That many of us have gotten past that is because of the ideals expressed in the Jewish and Christian scriptures, in which we are all brothers because we are all equally children of God.

    I find it odd that such pronouncements by several Jewish kooks should be taken as somehow definitive or all or most Jews. Jim Jones claimed to be a Christian. Are his writings to be taken as defining Christian belief?
  11. K says:

    You know i come here to find stuff about race and IQ and this is what i get instead.

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  12. Aristotle taught all nations, Jews included, were created to be slaves to the Hellenes.

    Hitler tried to pull a similar scam for the Germanics; did not work.

    Japanese still believe in Kami.

    Ha, ha, ha!

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    The problem with the Jews, is what the Jews believe today and what the Jews are DOING today.

    Are the Japanese putting Palestinians in concentration camps or giving Ethiopians genocide shots?

    No one today associates those cultures with slavery ir barbarism today because their culture adapted.

    Yet the Jews want to cling onto superiority claims and want to treat others as literal cattle.

    That is the difference.
    , @David
    Aristotle said some people are natural slaves but I don't think he said all people not Hellenes are. You have a citation?
    , @attilathehen
    Good points. I'vd read comments about the Talmud and their description of the goys and Jesus. According to the Kabbalah, God asks the Jews for advice. This is pure degeneracy and madness of course. The Jews are not the chosen people. They had nothing to do with Western civilization. Today's Jews marry black/Asians in high numbers. . Do not conflate biology with beliefs. Jews say they are both. Biology is destiny.

    The "Jewish supremacy/chosen tribe" mentality is given power by the RCC and Zioevangiers. Today's world problems are caused by the most evil universal belief: universal brotherhood. If we want to deal with the "Jewish question," we first need to get rid of "universal brotherhood." I believe in IQ, evolution and my Christianity and politics are based on the first two. We are now half way through 2017. The world has been mapped and settled, IQs measured and races delineated. We now know what destroyed the ancient Egyptians (Caucasians) - miscegenation with blacks; and the ancient Indian Aryans (mixing with Asians). The only superior people today (and since the beginning of time) are the Caucasians/Europeans. Jews (blacks/Asians) are not in this group. Of course all people believe their group is the best. But we have objective evidence to actually prove who is the best, i.e., the Western world. We know these peoples cannot mix with blacks/Asians so that they do not suffer the fates of the ancient Egyptians/Indians. IQ is the most important objective reality and using this measure is the beginning to solving the West's problems. The RCC/Zioevangizers will be the most trouble because of their belief in the "universal church."

    100 hundred years ago the civilized world was almost at the end of the Great War. The Bolsheviks took power in Russia. The 20th century was the bloodiest in world history. It was a different world though because Europe dominated the globe. People really believed in democracy, the brotherhood of man, progressivism of the species. The 21st century is completely different. There is nothing that can be done with low IQ people, so it is best to separate them. The West will take of its own people. The writer Paul Kersey has written articles about Baltimore, comparing the city today to when it was over 80% white in 1917. Today's 70% black Baltimore is Africa. The West is no longer there. This in the most powerful Western nation today and of all time. One of my favorite writers, Edgar Allan Poe is buried in Baltimore. No horror story that he wrote can compare with the present day horror of Baltimore. The "orthodox Jewish males" pray and thank God that they were not born a woman. If you are Caucasian Christian/neopagan, and with an IQ of 90+, thank God for this. Because the alternative is literally hell.
  13. ddd says:

    Sorry, but pulling out a few passages from the Talmud (which is huge and notoriously difficult to interpret), doesn’t really say anything. Sorry, but the luminous intellects of unz.com are not up to the task of interpreting ancient texts.

    You could find equivalent passages in Greek (Aristotle and his treatment of barbarians), Sanskrit (look at the laws of Manu and how they deal with people outside the caste system), Chinese (middle kingdom – enough said), Arabic, or Christian theology.

    People like to think they’re special, and that their group and nation is special. This isn’t really news.

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    The Talmud says what is says. Even Jews understand it
    , @anon
    Why non-human? Because it protects no doubt from any guilt or fellow feeling that might compromise and weaken the exploitative oppressive cunning deceitful nature of the game the Jews engage into.
    But also due to the reason that one doesn’t usually get angry with animal , doesn’t get envious of the animal ,doesn’t get into internal psychological arguments or conflicts with the animals. That means it offers them a calm deliberated thoughtful approach to the problem without any emotion.
    It removes the barriers .It absolves the moral reaction and the duties . Now the “man” or Son of God” could do anything with unflappable equanimity , dismissiveness and can use all ploys in his possession against the non-Jews This is why they have enemies real potential unborn and and in making.
    , @Jim
    The moral systems of all human societies are fundamentally oriented around ingroup-outgroup distinctions. However while ethnocentrism is by no means an exclusively Jewish trait, Jews do tend to greater ethnocentrism then most European gentile groups.
    , @CanSpeccy

    Sorry, but pulling out a few passages from the Talmud (which is huge and notoriously difficult to interpret), doesn’t really say anything.
     
    Sorry, but saying Judaism isn't fundamentally racist is fundamentally stupid. The central point of Judaism is "Jews uber Alles. " Christianity takes its racism from the Judaism embodied in the Old Testament of the Christian Bible.

    The only reason that anti-Semitism is worse than white supremacism or Black-Lives-Matter anti-white racism (much encouraged by some Jewish interests) is that Jews have the power to make it so in America and increasingly throughout Europe.

    , @pensword
    People like to think they’re special, and that their group and nation is special. This isn’t really news.

    1. In zionism, such a disposition bears the imprimatur of religious truth.
    2. Zionists control American government.

    Not news, but these distinctions provide a weight to Mr. Shamir's exposition that dwarfs your blithe dismissal thereof.
  14. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    This attitude seems to hold even among non-religious Jews, especially when it comes to Israel and neocon wars. From Karlin’s recent blog post on Russian Jew Anton Nossik:

    Anti-Obituary for Anton Nossik

    Nosik: What is Russia doing [in Syria]? It’s killing women, children, old people.
    Interviewer: And you support this?
    Nosik: Sure. They’re Syrians.
    Interviewer: But they’re people.
    Nosik: No, they’re Syrians.
    Interviewer: So Syrians aren’t people?
    Nosik: In what sense? They present a danger to Israel.
    Interviewer: And women and children and old people too?
    Nosik: I don’t care, if they present a danger to Israel.
    Interviewer: But what danger can women and children and old people constitute?
    Nosik: Women? They give birth to Syrian soldiers. If they are bombed, they won’t give birth to Syrian soldiers. And thank God!

    Nossik, according to Karlin, was also a critic of Israel Shamir, whom Nossik called a “Holocaust denier”.

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    According to
    Léon Poliakov, 'Bréviaire de la Haine, Le IIIe Reich et les Juifs', 1951, 1974, Paris
    the Auschwitz gas chambers were blown up at the end of 1944.
    One wonders how tourists at Auschwitz can see them nowadays.
  15. Pandos says:
    @ddd
    Sorry, but pulling out a few passages from the Talmud (which is huge and notoriously difficult to interpret), doesn't really say anything. Sorry, but the luminous intellects of unz.com are not up to the task of interpreting ancient texts.

    You could find equivalent passages in Greek (Aristotle and his treatment of barbarians), Sanskrit (look at the laws of Manu and how they deal with people outside the caste system), Chinese (middle kingdom - enough said), Arabic, or Christian theology.

    People like to think they're special, and that their group and nation is special. This isn't really news.

    The Talmud says what is says. Even Jews understand it

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  16. anarchyst says:

    Let’s turn the question around…
    “Are jews human?”…or are they reptilian shape-shifters?

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    • Replies: @Pachyderm Pachyderma
    Just visit Manhattan after midnight and you will get the proof you are seeking...
  17. Is this guy fucking serious?

    So many bad things you can say about Jews. No need to make stuff up.

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    • Replies: @woodNfish

    So many bad true things you can say about Jews. No need to make stuff up.
     
    Open your eyes, the truth will set you free.
  18. woodNfish says:

    The defenders of Jewish faith say that the quotes mean something completely different, they are taken out of context and the translation is wrong anyway.

    So the jews are following the muslim program of denial and calling the accuser a racist and other names to defelct attention from the truth.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    "defelct attention from the truth."

    What truth?

    One truth is already crystal clear for us... that God is One. No deceit about 3..n being 1.

    A faith open to one and all, with every man being equal in His eyes... except based on strength of devotion to Him.

    In what way are we translating all that wrongly?

    Now, how about the everybody else?
    , @Pachyderm Pachyderma
    If anything, it's the Muslims who have copied the art obfuscation from Jews and everything else!
  19. woodNfish says:
    @Greasy William
    Is this guy fucking serious?

    So many bad things you can say about Jews. No need to make stuff up.

    So many bad true things you can say about Jews. No need to make stuff up.

    Open your eyes, the truth will set you free.

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  20. @K
    Just because one jewish priest thought so, doesnt mean every jewish priest or every jewish person thought/thinks the same.

    Also, remember in olden times almost every culture/leaders of cultures in varying degrees called 'outsiders' as barbarians or beasts. It doesnt mean the people of those cultures nor all books of the culture/religion thought they were barbarian.

    The word barbarian just means not being able to talk, brabble.
    I never ever saw that other people were regarded as animals disguised as men, in order to be able to serve those who uniquely were men.

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  21. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @ddd
    Sorry, but pulling out a few passages from the Talmud (which is huge and notoriously difficult to interpret), doesn't really say anything. Sorry, but the luminous intellects of unz.com are not up to the task of interpreting ancient texts.

    You could find equivalent passages in Greek (Aristotle and his treatment of barbarians), Sanskrit (look at the laws of Manu and how they deal with people outside the caste system), Chinese (middle kingdom - enough said), Arabic, or Christian theology.

    People like to think they're special, and that their group and nation is special. This isn't really news.

    Why non-human? Because it protects no doubt from any guilt or fellow feeling that might compromise and weaken the exploitative oppressive cunning deceitful nature of the game the Jews engage into.
    But also due to the reason that one doesn’t usually get angry with animal , doesn’t get envious of the animal ,doesn’t get into internal psychological arguments or conflicts with the animals. That means it offers them a calm deliberated thoughtful approach to the problem without any emotion.
    It removes the barriers .It absolves the moral reaction and the duties . Now the “man” or Son of God” could do anything with unflappable equanimity , dismissiveness and can use all ploys in his possession against the non-Jews This is why they have enemies real potential unborn and and in making.

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  22. @Anonymous
    This attitude seems to hold even among non-religious Jews, especially when it comes to Israel and neocon wars. From Karlin's recent blog post on Russian Jew Anton Nossik:

    Anti-Obituary for Anton Nossik
    ...

    Nosik: What is Russia doing [in Syria]? It’s killing women, children, old people.
    Interviewer: And you support this?
    Nosik: Sure. They’re Syrians.
    Interviewer: But they’re people.
    Nosik: No, they’re Syrians.
    Interviewer: So Syrians aren’t people?
    Nosik: In what sense? They present a danger to Israel.
    Interviewer: And women and children and old people too?
    Nosik: I don’t care, if they present a danger to Israel.
    Interviewer: But what danger can women and children and old people constitute?
    Nosik: Women? They give birth to Syrian soldiers. If they are bombed, they won’t give birth to Syrian soldiers. And thank God!
     

    Nossik, according to Karlin, was also a critic of Israel Shamir, whom Nossik called a "Holocaust denier".

    According to
    Léon Poliakov, ‘Bréviaire de la Haine, Le IIIe Reich et les Juifs’, 1951, 1974, Paris
    the Auschwitz gas chambers were blown up at the end of 1944.
    One wonders how tourists at Auschwitz can see them nowadays.

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  23. AndrewR says:
    @Che Guava

    The English Wikipedia, being under Jewish control
     
    How true, Mr. Shamir. Nice to see a few of the worst deprived of their Precious (as in Gollum), the admin. or bureaucrat status at times, not that I waste any time on that place now.

    An interesting article, the first time I experienced Jewish people who clearly thought I was not human was in Japan, but I did not work out that that was what was going on until an experience or two overseas.

    On the other hand, I also had a cliched Jewish friend (as in accent, etc., Sephardic, I think) who I have no doubt saw me as human.

    Since the government cracked down on their illegal work by being strict on visas, not so many in Japan. That was many years ago. Israelis had free range for illegal businesses and work on tourist visas for many years, until about 15 years ago, it was a regular thing for post-conscription, the men would run illegal street-stalls with junk jewellery, some of them running drugs on the side, the women worked illegally as hostesses.

    I will be re-reading your article, it is interesting.

    Please elaborate on your experience with the Jews in nihon

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    I would like to, could write a few thousand words on it, but since the culmination was seeing a very nasty crime in a cheap block of flats, and the govt. reacted (not to that crime, but to the general situation) by stopping the Japan as post-conscription destination for exploitation game, seriously, it would take me hours to cover the whole of bad experiences when in cheap lodgings after parental estrangement.

    I will say, even the better or nicer among them had stupid ideas, whining about the police just because the police closed down their illegal stalls. WTF do they expect?
    , @Che Guava
    I will add, not 'the Jews', but specifically Israelis. A few managed to marry into the Mob, suppose some of them are still here.
  24. Jim says:
    @ddd
    Sorry, but pulling out a few passages from the Talmud (which is huge and notoriously difficult to interpret), doesn't really say anything. Sorry, but the luminous intellects of unz.com are not up to the task of interpreting ancient texts.

    You could find equivalent passages in Greek (Aristotle and his treatment of barbarians), Sanskrit (look at the laws of Manu and how they deal with people outside the caste system), Chinese (middle kingdom - enough said), Arabic, or Christian theology.

    People like to think they're special, and that their group and nation is special. This isn't really news.

    The moral systems of all human societies are fundamentally oriented around ingroup-outgroup distinctions. However while ethnocentrism is by no means an exclusively Jewish trait, Jews do tend to greater ethnocentrism then most European gentile groups.

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  25. ANON says: • Disclaimer

    I’d hate to be below what some Jews think of other Jews.

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    I’d hate to be below what some Jews think of other Jews.
     
    LOL
  26. Moi says:

    A land without a people, for a people without a land.

    How’s that for some Jewish creativity?

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  27. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @woodNfish

    The defenders of Jewish faith say that the quotes mean something completely different, they are taken out of context and the translation is wrong anyway.
     
    So the jews are following the muslim program of denial and calling the accuser a racist and other names to defelct attention from the truth.

    “defelct attention from the truth.”

    What truth?

    One truth is already crystal clear for us… that God is One. No deceit about 3..n being 1.

    A faith open to one and all, with every man being equal in His eyes… except based on strength of devotion to Him.

    In what way are we translating all that wrongly?

    Now, how about the everybody else?

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    • Replies: @anonymous coward

    One truth is already crystal clear for us… that God is One. No deceit about 3..n being 1.
     
    So is the Koran uncreated and co-eternal with God? Yes or no?
  28. Art says:

    The intention of this piece is not to establish a norm (Thou shall/shan’t hate a goy), but to show that denial of goy’s humanity existed in Jewish circles from Talmud to our days.

    The fact that this attitude still exists in Jew culture is undeniable and bizarre.

    If one has the courage to believe what one sees, then one must only look at Israel to see that the Jews contempt for humanity is alive, functional, and very well instituted in the everyday life of the Jewish state. The treatment of the Palestinians is inhuman – period.

    The 15,000,000 strong Hasbara Matrix is proof that the rest of Jewdom is in the same state of euphoric contempt for humanity.

    The truth of the matter is that in the Jew mindset, there is a wall of separation between Jew and Gentile that can never be breached.

    The Matrix Jews pride themselves about being clever – “clever being shady – being less then totally honest with words and deeds.” Generation after generation, they feel that it is their birthright, given to them by god, to seek revenge against the beastly Gentile.

    The Jew are culturally ill – end of story.

    Peace — Art

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  29. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @ddd
    Sorry, but pulling out a few passages from the Talmud (which is huge and notoriously difficult to interpret), doesn't really say anything. Sorry, but the luminous intellects of unz.com are not up to the task of interpreting ancient texts.

    You could find equivalent passages in Greek (Aristotle and his treatment of barbarians), Sanskrit (look at the laws of Manu and how they deal with people outside the caste system), Chinese (middle kingdom - enough said), Arabic, or Christian theology.

    People like to think they're special, and that their group and nation is special. This isn't really news.

    Sorry, but pulling out a few passages from the Talmud (which is huge and notoriously difficult to interpret), doesn’t really say anything.

    Sorry, but saying Judaism isn’t fundamentally racist is fundamentally stupid. The central point of Judaism is “Jews uber Alles. ” Christianity takes its racism from the Judaism embodied in the Old Testament of the Christian Bible.

    The only reason that anti-Semitism is worse than white supremacism or Black-Lives-Matter anti-white racism (much encouraged by some Jewish interests) is that Jews have the power to make it so in America and increasingly throughout Europe.

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  30. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @K
    Just because one jewish priest thought so, doesnt mean every jewish priest or every jewish person thought/thinks the same.

    Also, remember in olden times almost every culture/leaders of cultures in varying degrees called 'outsiders' as barbarians or beasts. It doesnt mean the people of those cultures nor all books of the culture/religion thought they were barbarian.

    I agree with this in principle.

    But the problem is that Jews like to label the goyim as anti-semites solely on the words of a small subgroup of people.

    If just one person in a group says the slightest antisemitic thing, that is enough grounds for Jews to label the whole group as Antisemitic and to try to punish them.

    Why can’t we apply the same logic to Jews? Is it because there are rules for the chosen people and rules for the animals?

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    • Replies: @Wally
    What's wrong with being 'antisemitic'?

    'antisemitic': any thought or person that a Jew doesn't like
  31. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Thales the Milesian
    Aristotle taught all nations, Jews included, were created to be slaves to the Hellenes.

    Hitler tried to pull a similar scam for the Germanics; did not work.

    Japanese still believe in Kami.

    Ha, ha, ha!

    The problem with the Jews, is what the Jews believe today and what the Jews are DOING today.

    Are the Japanese putting Palestinians in concentration camps or giving Ethiopians genocide shots?

    No one today associates those cultures with slavery ir barbarism today because their culture adapted.

    Yet the Jews want to cling onto superiority claims and want to treat others as literal cattle.

    That is the difference.

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  32. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    The defining characteristic of Jews everywhere and throughout history is that they always have 1 set of laws or standards for Jews and another set of laws or standards for everyone else (the goyim).

    This double standard is seen all the time everywhere. They practice the anti-golden rule.

    This is why this article is so important, because it explains how Jewish power is derived from seeing others as cattle just like the mafia does.

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  33. David says:
    @Thales the Milesian
    Aristotle taught all nations, Jews included, were created to be slaves to the Hellenes.

    Hitler tried to pull a similar scam for the Germanics; did not work.

    Japanese still believe in Kami.

    Ha, ha, ha!

    Aristotle said some people are natural slaves but I don’t think he said all people not Hellenes are. You have a citation?

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  34. As someone who studied some of the same texts more than fifty years ago, I am amazed by Israel Shamir’s erudition. He’s obviously studied the original Talmudic passages in Hebrew and Eastern Aramaic. Contrary to what some bloggers suggest, I think it’s culturally and socially important that some Jewish communities, mostly in Eastern Europe, studied such texts and from what I can tell from my exposure to those who did, took the views of gentiles that they encountered quite seriously. Sephardic Jews were less likely to have been exposed to such views. They generally did not study Talmud in the same depth as Eastern European Jews and confined their religious studies to learning compendiums of Rabbinic law, which determined their ritual practice.
    It’s not a question of whether other groups also taught ideas of racial superiority to their young. What is striking in this case is the claim to stand for universal justice from a group that has been saturated with anti-gentile prejudice for many generations. But in this respect hypocritical Jewish universalists may be no different from spokesmen for the Third World, who drag their own ethnic baggage into the court of manufactured world opinion.

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    • Agree: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @Israel Shamir
    Dear Paul, I am very flattered by the comment of a person whose books I've read and cherished! However, the author of Midrash Talpiyot had been a Sephardi Jew par excellence)))
    , @Anonymous
    A whole wall of text to say pretty much nothing at all.

    What is your point?
    , @Pachyderm Pachyderma
    'But in this respect hypocritical Jewish universalists may be no different from spokesmen for the Third World, who drag their own ethnic baggage into the court of manufactured world opinion.'

    What do deprived peoples have to do with the gluttonous? Is this your attempt to absolve your brothers in faith by conflating hunger pangs with hunger for rape, pillage and mayhem? You are sick!

  35. So many paragraphs and he couldn’t answer the simple question: are non-Jews human?

    What a waste of time.

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  36. @Dan Hayes
    Israel,

    Where else except in the Unz Review can one find such an otherwise verboten topic?

    Thanks go to you and to Ron Unz who makes this all possible!

    Thanks go to you and to Ron Unz who makes this all possible!

    Yes, it’s quite amazing. It’s almost as if he is a member of the MASTER RACE. At the very least, I’d have to say he’s definitely human.

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  37. Wally says:
    @Anonymous

    there are goy-loving and goy-hating “Jews”.
     
    Will that matter when the pendulum swings? The "bad" Jews are playing a global game now so there'll be no place on the Planet to expel them to.

    That’s precisely why they created ‘Israel’.

    Israel: a safe haven for slime balls.

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  38. Wally says:
    @jacques sheete

    All these references are soundly trashed and refuted by a plethora of Jewish sites robustly defending Talmud and later texts. The defenders of Jewish faith say that the quotes mean something completely different, they are taken out of context and the translation is wrong anyway.
     
    This is typical and another side of it is that the smears against goyim live on and on

    ad infinitum.
     
    One that especially wrankles me is the still current charge of "anti-Semitism" against Charles Lindbergh the pilot. It's utterly false as are some other particularly nasty charges against the man.

    Also, they can deny it all they want because one doesn't have to go to ancient texts to find examples of anti-Goyism. All we have to do is look at how the State of Israel treats others and what some modern self appointed rabbis have to say about us. One could also read some of the comments by the hasbara brigade right here on UNZ.

    "Goyim [non-Jews] were born only to serve us." Explaining why God allowed non-Jews long lives, he added: "Imagine that your donkey would die, you’d lose your income. [The donkey] is your servant. … That’s why he [the gentile] gets a long life, to work well for the Jew."
    This summer, Yosef Elitzur and Yitzhak Shapira, who head an influential seminary in the West Bank settlement of Yitzhar, published The King’s Torah, a 230-page guide to how Jews should treat non-Jews.
    The two rabbis concluded that Jews were obligated to kill anyone who posed a danger, immediate or potential, to the Jewish people, and implied that all Palestinians were to be considered a threat. On these grounds, the pair justified killing Palestinian civilians and even their babies.

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2010/12/10/israel-s-racist-rabbis/print
     
    Lucky for the goyim that Jews have always been riven by factionalism, (read Josephus), and not all think that way.

    But the assault upon white gentiles unifies them, catch up.

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  39. Wally says:
    @Anonymous
    I agree with this in principle.

    But the problem is that Jews like to label the goyim as anti-semites solely on the words of a small subgroup of people.

    If just one person in a group says the slightest antisemitic thing, that is enough grounds for Jews to label the whole group as Antisemitic and to try to punish them.

    Why can't we apply the same logic to Jews? Is it because there are rules for the chosen people and rules for the animals?

    What’s wrong with being ‘antisemitic’?

    ‘antisemitic’: any thought or person that a Jew doesn’t like

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  40. Yes, well, the scriptures were written by Jews to make them feel good about themselves when they were just a tribe of no importance. My daddy can beat your daddy, my God can beat your God, so naturally gentiles, and Philistines in particular, will have gotten a bad write up.

    Thank God for Darwin rewriting the scriptures.

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  41. Rurik says: • Website

    I wonder if it’s possible that this codified anti-Gentile arrogance of ‘the Jews’, (Kol Nidre, et al) might have led them to certain behaviors which were considered hostile by the goyim. (Calling goyim women and girls ‘shiksa’ for instance, with its derogatory insinuations.. other things.. )

    and that perhaps it was these actions on the part of ‘the Jews’, that may have led to certain persecutions?

    if
    , the goyim are indeed human, then that would mean that it wouldn’t just be wrong to treat them as beasts, but indeed, that these people would be justified in being outraged at being considered and treated as less than human, no?

    and if such outrages were based on genuine harm that was visited upon the Gentiles/goyim..

    who actually are human, and deserve to be treated as such, then doesn’t that justify the actions these Gentiles/humans have taken over the millenniums to protect themselves from a people who consider them less than human, and free game for ill-treatment and/or actual depredations?

    If the world was justified for what they visited upon the Nazis (at places like Dresden, and all Germans including women and children) for their arrogance and the treatment of others as less than human, then…

    … would the Palestinians (and others) be justified in visiting such ‘justice’ upon ‘the Jews’ who treat them as less than human?

    if the Jews today are constantly lamenting their ’2000 years of persecution’, then if the Gentiles are indeed human, and the Jews of antiquity never considered them so, then doesn’t that explain, (even justify!) what the Gentiles did in expelling an endemically and intractably hostile people from their midst? A people who didn’t even consider their gracious hosts as even human? But rather were ‘put here by god to serve the Jews’?

    I mean really.. how do you live among such people? What is the point of mutual understanding, when their starting place is that ‘you’re a beast who exists to serve us’?

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    I think we can explain these ideas as reaction going to the point of lunacy on the part of the Tribe, in the face of abject failure and having to admit maybe they weren't so great.

    Here they were, the chosen people, yet they couldn't keep a country, they keep getting kicked out of everywhere they go, always clinging to whatever country would take them in, playing second fiddle to the goy, keeping to the shadowy side streets, and having to bow down to the goyim's rules and traditions. They didn't do it because maybe they weren't so great and wonderful after all, it was because...'we're actually the best!!!'

    To ask why they lost their country, or, if they were so superior, why they kept getting the short end of the stick, and if it was that they were being unfairly oppressed, how did they get that way in the first place, well, these questions the very core of what they believe of themselves, and the only response is to double down on 'We're the best!!!'.
    , @hobo
    “and that perhaps it was these actions on the part of ‘the Jews’, that may have led to certain persecutions?”

    Perhaps this is also the explanation for the historical antipathy exhibited in Western Ukraine toward Jews. The fusion of this mindset with the appointment of Jews as administrators in this area (by Polish nobility in the 16th century) must have been a very potent combination.

    While the anti-semitic bias in this area has been established as incontrovertible fact, the basis for this bias has rarely been examined. Its as if it has sprung, full-grown from the heads of the Ukrainians. What little is readily available on this subject indicates an absolute dominance and concomitant exploitation of Ukrainian society by these Jewish administrators. Yet this is conspicuously absent from the popular historical narrative.
  42. Sometimes it seems like the point of the Talmud is to write everything that can be written (almost akin to the adage about infinite monkeys/typewriters) so as to render it impossible for your enemy to read it all, and thus have plausible deniability about everything you can be accused of saying.

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  43. You say,

    ‘To conclude this already too long piece:’

    I say, it’s never enough about Jews… Let it rain, Israel!

    Another item:

    “Two, a non-Jew may join Jews, while if he were in the shape of beast, he wouldn’t be able to.”

    Perhaps, the above explains as to why non-observant Jews, men and women, are marrying or cohabiting with good looking whites in record numbers and also, perhaps prohibits, marriage with blacks though it happens occasionally.

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  44. @anarchyst
    Let's turn the question around...
    "Are jews human?"...or are they reptilian shape-shifters?

    Just visit Manhattan after midnight and you will get the proof you are seeking…

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  45. @woodNfish

    The defenders of Jewish faith say that the quotes mean something completely different, they are taken out of context and the translation is wrong anyway.
     
    So the jews are following the muslim program of denial and calling the accuser a racist and other names to defelct attention from the truth.

    If anything, it’s the Muslims who have copied the art obfuscation from Jews and everything else!

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  46. Truth says:

    Firstly, the word “Jews” is a misunderstanding. The true word for the Khazars in what is known as Israel today is “Jew-ish” meaning “like Jews” not true Jews.

    The word “Jew” or “Jews” is mentioned repeatedly in the Bible, but “Jewish” is mentioned only once, in Titus 1:14.

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    The true word for the Khazars in what is known as Israel today is “Jew-ish” meaning “like Jews” not true Jews.
     
    Unless I'm totally mistaken about the geography, Khazaria is in the ancient Scythian plateau, i.e. the Caucasus region.

    Aryans -- progenitors of ancient Persians -- emerged from the Scythian plateau;

    Ashkenazi Jews are said not to be Semites, or descendants of Abram of Ur, at all, but rather members of the Khazar tribe that opportunistically converted to Judaism.

    "Caucasian" used to be the default designation for people (in USA) who were not "Negro" or other non-Caucasian race.

    Linguistically,


    "It is highly probable that the earliest speakers of [Indo-European] language originally lived around Ukraine and neighbouring regions in the Caucasus and Southern Russia, then spread to most of the rest of Europe and later down into India." http://www.ancient.eu/Indo-European_Languages/
     
    The Indo-European belt extended from the Caucasus to Iran and India; to Greece thence Italy, to France, Germany and Russia, and west to Ireland. http://www.ancient.eu/Indo-European_Languages/ --

    Thus, Aryans/Persians/Iranians; Ashkenazi; most Europeans -- Germans, Italians, French, Russian, as well as the Irish, share a geographic and linguistic region of origin.

    What is different about these peoples is their mythological development/evolution:

    --> as they migrated from the Scythian steppe, Aryans/Iranians developed an ethical system, organized by Zoroaster,


    "Like all nomadic peoples lacking police and law courts, a code of honour was central to the Iranian tribes, and their religious beliefs differed from those of farming people. Whereas the farmers of Egypt and Mesopotamia had converted nature gods into city guardians, the Iranians had begun distilling them into a few universal principles. Zoroaster, who lived some time around 1000 BCE, drove this process. For him, the only god was the creator, Ahura Mazda, bringer of asha – light, order, truth; the law or logic by which the world was structured. Even those who were not practising Zoroastrians grew up shaped by a culture that valued simple ethical ideas such as telling the truth. " http://www.ancient.eu/Achaemenid_Empire/
     
    This commitment to telling the truth was uppermost among Aryans, according to Karen Armstrong:

    "The Aryans took the spoken word very seriously. Like all other phenomenon, speech was a god. . . A vow, once uttered, was eternally binding, and a lie was absolutely evil because it perverted the holy power inherent in the spoken word. The Aryans would never lose this passion for absolute truthfulness. "
     
    --> (allegedly) Khazar Jews adopted the supremacist myths of the Abrahamic tribe, derivative of Mesopotamian- and Egyptian-origin myths. ( )

    --> Abram's (Abraham) story begins with smashing of the idols which others -- including his own father and mother -- revered. The very origin and essence of the Abrahamic tradition is the claim to possess The Truth, in the light of which all other beliefs were "in error" and must be converted or destroyed. Maimonides explains it this way:


    "Abraham did not have a mentor, but was immersed amongst the stupid idolaters of Ur Casdim, where everyone, including his mother and father, served idols, as did he. In his heart, however, he continued to contemplate, until he realized the way of truth and understood the ways of righteousness from nature, and knew that there is a God who directs the spheres, created the world, and besides whom there is none other.

    He also knew that the whole world was erring, and knew that what caused the mistake was that they [had] worshiped the stars and figures for so long that the truth had vanished.

    Abraham was forty years old when he recognized his Creator. Once he achieved this, he began to reason with the inhabitants of Ur Casdim and to argue with them, saying that by serving idols they were not following the way of truth. He broke their images, and began to proclaim that it is not fitting to serve anyone other than God, and to Him it is fitting to bow down and to offer drink sacrifices and sacrifices to, so that all creation will recognize Him.

    Abraham also proclaimed that it was fitting to break and destroy all the figures, so that nobody will err on account of them, like those who imagined that there is no God except for their idols did. Since people were listening to him, the king, Nimrod, sought to kill him, but a miracle was performed for Abraham, and he went to Haran, where he got up and proclaimed to the whole world that there is just one God in the world, whom it is fitting to worship. He went and gathered people together from cities and kingdoms, until he reached the land of Canaan, where he continued his proclamations, as it is written, “…and called there on the name of the Lord, the everlasting God”. http://learn.conservativeyeshiva.org/introduction-to-rabbinic-midrash-1-lesson-1-avraham-and-the-idol-shop/ Maimonides Mishnah Torah Laws of Idolatry 1:3
     

    American Exceptionalism carries on the Abrahamic tradition: the determination that IT possesses the Truth; that all others are "in error," and must be punished, their "behaviour" or their "regimes" changed such that they conform to that Truth, or suffer destruction of their lives, their shrines (idols) and their culture.

    The Zoroastrian/Aryan/Iranian tradition, on the other hand, is equally committed to the principle of conforming personal (and community) conduct to respect for Truth in the spoken word since god is in the word -- echoed in Christian gospel of John, "In the beginning was the Word . . ." and expanded in the Zoroastrian trinity that can be found carved in doorways and furnishings throughout Iran: "Good Thoughts, Good Words, Good Deeds."

  47. @paul gottfried
    As someone who studied some of the same texts more than fifty years ago, I am amazed by Israel Shamir's erudition. He's obviously studied the original Talmudic passages in Hebrew and Eastern Aramaic. Contrary to what some bloggers suggest, I think it's culturally and socially important that some Jewish communities, mostly in Eastern Europe, studied such texts and from what I can tell from my exposure to those who did, took the views of gentiles that they encountered quite seriously. Sephardic Jews were less likely to have been exposed to such views. They generally did not study Talmud in the same depth as Eastern European Jews and confined their religious studies to learning compendiums of Rabbinic law, which determined their ritual practice.
    It's not a question of whether other groups also taught ideas of racial superiority to their young. What is striking in this case is the claim to stand for universal justice from a group that has been saturated with anti-gentile prejudice for many generations. But in this respect hypocritical Jewish universalists may be no different from spokesmen for the Third World, who drag their own ethnic baggage into the court of manufactured world opinion.

    Dear Paul, I am very flattered by the comment of a person whose books I’ve read and cherished! However, the author of Midrash Talpiyot had been a Sephardi Jew par excellence)))

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    Kabbalah is a Sephardic invention. Sabbateanism as well.
  48. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @paul gottfried
    As someone who studied some of the same texts more than fifty years ago, I am amazed by Israel Shamir's erudition. He's obviously studied the original Talmudic passages in Hebrew and Eastern Aramaic. Contrary to what some bloggers suggest, I think it's culturally and socially important that some Jewish communities, mostly in Eastern Europe, studied such texts and from what I can tell from my exposure to those who did, took the views of gentiles that they encountered quite seriously. Sephardic Jews were less likely to have been exposed to such views. They generally did not study Talmud in the same depth as Eastern European Jews and confined their religious studies to learning compendiums of Rabbinic law, which determined their ritual practice.
    It's not a question of whether other groups also taught ideas of racial superiority to their young. What is striking in this case is the claim to stand for universal justice from a group that has been saturated with anti-gentile prejudice for many generations. But in this respect hypocritical Jewish universalists may be no different from spokesmen for the Third World, who drag their own ethnic baggage into the court of manufactured world opinion.

    A whole wall of text to say pretty much nothing at all.

    What is your point?

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  49. @paul gottfried
    As someone who studied some of the same texts more than fifty years ago, I am amazed by Israel Shamir's erudition. He's obviously studied the original Talmudic passages in Hebrew and Eastern Aramaic. Contrary to what some bloggers suggest, I think it's culturally and socially important that some Jewish communities, mostly in Eastern Europe, studied such texts and from what I can tell from my exposure to those who did, took the views of gentiles that they encountered quite seriously. Sephardic Jews were less likely to have been exposed to such views. They generally did not study Talmud in the same depth as Eastern European Jews and confined their religious studies to learning compendiums of Rabbinic law, which determined their ritual practice.
    It's not a question of whether other groups also taught ideas of racial superiority to their young. What is striking in this case is the claim to stand for universal justice from a group that has been saturated with anti-gentile prejudice for many generations. But in this respect hypocritical Jewish universalists may be no different from spokesmen for the Third World, who drag their own ethnic baggage into the court of manufactured world opinion.

    ‘But in this respect hypocritical Jewish universalists may be no different from spokesmen for the Third World, who drag their own ethnic baggage into the court of manufactured world opinion.’

    What do deprived peoples have to do with the gluttonous? Is this your attempt to absolve your brothers in faith by conflating hunger pangs with hunger for rape, pillage and mayhem? You are sick!

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  50. escobar says:

    So, why do Jews say so often to one another, “Be a Mensch” (German spelling, the Yiddish is likely “Mentsch” — “Be a human being,” meaning “be decent.” Acknowledging that some among them behave in a manner they should not, that is – indecently?

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  51. @Thales the Milesian
    Aristotle taught all nations, Jews included, were created to be slaves to the Hellenes.

    Hitler tried to pull a similar scam for the Germanics; did not work.

    Japanese still believe in Kami.

    Ha, ha, ha!

    Good points. I’vd read comments about the Talmud and their description of the goys and Jesus. According to the Kabbalah, God asks the Jews for advice. This is pure degeneracy and madness of course. The Jews are not the chosen people. They had nothing to do with Western civilization. Today’s Jews marry black/Asians in high numbers. . Do not conflate biology with beliefs. Jews say they are both. Biology is destiny.

    The “Jewish supremacy/chosen tribe” mentality is given power by the RCC and Zioevangiers. Today’s world problems are caused by the most evil universal belief: universal brotherhood. If we want to deal with the “Jewish question,” we first need to get rid of “universal brotherhood.” I believe in IQ, evolution and my Christianity and politics are based on the first two. We are now half way through 2017. The world has been mapped and settled, IQs measured and races delineated. We now know what destroyed the ancient Egyptians (Caucasians) – miscegenation with blacks; and the ancient Indian Aryans (mixing with Asians). The only superior people today (and since the beginning of time) are the Caucasians/Europeans. Jews (blacks/Asians) are not in this group. Of course all people believe their group is the best. But we have objective evidence to actually prove who is the best, i.e., the Western world. We know these peoples cannot mix with blacks/Asians so that they do not suffer the fates of the ancient Egyptians/Indians. IQ is the most important objective reality and using this measure is the beginning to solving the West’s problems. The RCC/Zioevangizers will be the most trouble because of their belief in the “universal church.”

    100 hundred years ago the civilized world was almost at the end of the Great War. The Bolsheviks took power in Russia. The 20th century was the bloodiest in world history. It was a different world though because Europe dominated the globe. People really believed in democracy, the brotherhood of man, progressivism of the species. The 21st century is completely different. There is nothing that can be done with low IQ people, so it is best to separate them. The West will take of its own people. The writer Paul Kersey has written articles about Baltimore, comparing the city today to when it was over 80% white in 1917. Today’s 70% black Baltimore is Africa. The West is no longer there. This in the most powerful Western nation today and of all time. One of my favorite writers, Edgar Allan Poe is buried in Baltimore. No horror story that he wrote can compare with the present day horror of Baltimore. The “orthodox Jewish males” pray and thank God that they were not born a woman. If you are Caucasian Christian/neopagan, and with an IQ of 90+, thank God for this. Because the alternative is literally hell.

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    If you are Caucasian Christian/neopagan, and with an IQ of 90+, thank God for this. Because the alternative is literally hell.
     
    If you are a Caucasian "Christian" there is no conflation with Caucasian "neopagans", Caucasian Muslims, Buddhists, Jews, agnostics, satanists, or any other Caucasians: The bible makes it quite clear, there are two races, believers and non-believers, and believers are not to mix with non-believers.

    Anyone disagreeing with this is not a Christian.
    , @anarchyst
    The Vatican II Ecumenical Council poisoned the Catholic Church by removing the blame for the crucifixion and execution of Jesus Christ on the jews (who took full credit for murdering Jesus Christ). Both jews and Protestants influenced the Ecumenical Council to a much greater degree than most people realize. Both groups were successful in judaising and Protestantizing the Catholic Church.
    Absolving the jews for Christ's crucifixion and execution was an egregious error.
    Fortunately, there are old-line Catholic organizations that subscribe faithfully to the pre-Vatican II Catholic faith.
  52. utu says:
    @Israel Shamir
    Dear Paul, I am very flattered by the comment of a person whose books I've read and cherished! However, the author of Midrash Talpiyot had been a Sephardi Jew par excellence)))

    Kabbalah is a Sephardic invention. Sabbateanism as well.

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    This is (almost) true, indeed the Sephardis were more keen on Kabbalah than on Talmud. However, Sabbatai Tsevi was an Ashkenazi Jew, and he had many followers in the Ashkenaz (Poland etc), and Kabbalah while invented in Spain eventually became popular among Ashkenazi Jews.
  53. Druid says:
    @Pachyderm Pachyderma
    If anything, it's the Muslims who have copied the art obfuscation from Jews and everything else!

    BS, troll!

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  54. Antiwar7 says:

    There is a significant minority (our leaders among them) who view all of us as subhuman, compared to themselves.

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  55. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @ANON
    I'd hate to be below what some Jews think of other Jews.

    I’d hate to be below what some Jews think of other Jews.

    LOL

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  56. LauraMR says:

    So?

    According to feminism, men are not human. Defective humans, at best.

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    You mean according to the terrestrial whales?
    , @Thales the Milesian
    You mean according to the bonobos?
  57. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Wally
    What's wrong with being 'antisemitic'?

    'antisemitic': any thought or person that a Jew doesn't like

    Why are filled with such hatred?

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  58. Truth says:
    @attilathehen
    Good points. I'vd read comments about the Talmud and their description of the goys and Jesus. According to the Kabbalah, God asks the Jews for advice. This is pure degeneracy and madness of course. The Jews are not the chosen people. They had nothing to do with Western civilization. Today's Jews marry black/Asians in high numbers. . Do not conflate biology with beliefs. Jews say they are both. Biology is destiny.

    The "Jewish supremacy/chosen tribe" mentality is given power by the RCC and Zioevangiers. Today's world problems are caused by the most evil universal belief: universal brotherhood. If we want to deal with the "Jewish question," we first need to get rid of "universal brotherhood." I believe in IQ, evolution and my Christianity and politics are based on the first two. We are now half way through 2017. The world has been mapped and settled, IQs measured and races delineated. We now know what destroyed the ancient Egyptians (Caucasians) - miscegenation with blacks; and the ancient Indian Aryans (mixing with Asians). The only superior people today (and since the beginning of time) are the Caucasians/Europeans. Jews (blacks/Asians) are not in this group. Of course all people believe their group is the best. But we have objective evidence to actually prove who is the best, i.e., the Western world. We know these peoples cannot mix with blacks/Asians so that they do not suffer the fates of the ancient Egyptians/Indians. IQ is the most important objective reality and using this measure is the beginning to solving the West's problems. The RCC/Zioevangizers will be the most trouble because of their belief in the "universal church."

    100 hundred years ago the civilized world was almost at the end of the Great War. The Bolsheviks took power in Russia. The 20th century was the bloodiest in world history. It was a different world though because Europe dominated the globe. People really believed in democracy, the brotherhood of man, progressivism of the species. The 21st century is completely different. There is nothing that can be done with low IQ people, so it is best to separate them. The West will take of its own people. The writer Paul Kersey has written articles about Baltimore, comparing the city today to when it was over 80% white in 1917. Today's 70% black Baltimore is Africa. The West is no longer there. This in the most powerful Western nation today and of all time. One of my favorite writers, Edgar Allan Poe is buried in Baltimore. No horror story that he wrote can compare with the present day horror of Baltimore. The "orthodox Jewish males" pray and thank God that they were not born a woman. If you are Caucasian Christian/neopagan, and with an IQ of 90+, thank God for this. Because the alternative is literally hell.

    If you are Caucasian Christian/neopagan, and with an IQ of 90+, thank God for this. Because the alternative is literally hell.

    If you are a Caucasian “Christian” there is no conflation with Caucasian “neopagans”, Caucasian Muslims, Buddhists, Jews, agnostics, satanists, or any other Caucasians: The bible makes it quite clear, there are two races, believers and non-believers, and believers are not to mix with non-believers.

    Anyone disagreeing with this is not a Christian.

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    The bible makes it quite clear, there are two races, believers and non-believers, and believers are not to mix with non-believers.

    Anyone disagreeing with this is not a Christian.

     

    you sound just like a Zionist Jew

    is that on purpose?
    , @attilathehen
    The Bible needs to be studied in light of genetic science, IQ measurements, migratory patterns. In the Old Testament where God said he created man in his image - this statement needs to be deconstructed, analyzed, reinterpreted. Blacks/Asians do not reflect well on God. What is the purpose of creating low IQ races? Was their expulsion from the Garden of Eden different from that of the Caucasians? Compare different countries. Which country is better: RCC Philippines or Shinto/Buddhist Japan? RCC El Salvador or WASP USA? RCC Haiti or Protestant Iceland? I do believe in God because when I die I want answers. I still am a Christian. As a Western woman this is the best religion for me. I'm 99.9% certain there is no life besides us on earth. If there is, the question is why haven't they contacted us? Maybe because these other beings have low IQs. I've read that maybe the other beings advanced and then destroyed themselves. The sci-fi writers never fully address these issues. I know only this planet and its history. World history can be summed up in 2 words: IQ. We know who has it and who doesn't. We cannot live on Mars, the moon or floating space stations. We need to deal with these issues.
  59. Rurik says: • Website
    @Truth

    If you are Caucasian Christian/neopagan, and with an IQ of 90+, thank God for this. Because the alternative is literally hell.
     
    If you are a Caucasian "Christian" there is no conflation with Caucasian "neopagans", Caucasian Muslims, Buddhists, Jews, agnostics, satanists, or any other Caucasians: The bible makes it quite clear, there are two races, believers and non-believers, and believers are not to mix with non-believers.

    Anyone disagreeing with this is not a Christian.

    The bible makes it quite clear, there are two races, believers and non-believers, and believers are not to mix with non-believers.

    Anyone disagreeing with this is not a Christian.

    you sound just like a Zionist Jew

    is that on purpose?

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    Don't tell me you actually believed Truth was a black guy?
    , @Truth
    I sound like a Zionist Jew because I am interpreting what is totally obvious, and beyond dispute, from the bible?
  60. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Rurik
    I wonder if it's possible that this codified anti-Gentile arrogance of 'the Jews', (Kol Nidre, et al) might have led them to certain behaviors which were considered hostile by the goyim. (Calling goyim women and girls 'shiksa' for instance, with its derogatory insinuations.. other things.. )

    and that perhaps it was these actions on the part of 'the Jews', that may have led to certain persecutions?

    if
    , the goyim are indeed human, then that would mean that it wouldn't just be wrong to treat them as beasts, but indeed, that these people would be justified in being outraged at being considered and treated as less than human, no?

    and if such outrages were based on genuine harm that was visited upon the Gentiles/goyim..

    who actually are human, and deserve to be treated as such, then doesn't that justify the actions these Gentiles/humans have taken over the millenniums to protect themselves from a people who consider them less than human, and free game for ill-treatment and/or actual depredations?

    If the world was justified for what they visited upon the Nazis (at places like Dresden, and all Germans including women and children) for their arrogance and the treatment of others as less than human, then...

    ... would the Palestinians (and others) be justified in visiting such 'justice' upon 'the Jews' who treat them as less than human?

    if the Jews today are constantly lamenting their '2000 years of persecution', then if the Gentiles are indeed human, and the Jews of antiquity never considered them so, then doesn't that explain, (even justify!) what the Gentiles did in expelling an endemically and intractably hostile people from their midst? A people who didn't even consider their gracious hosts as even human? But rather were 'put here by god to serve the Jews'?

    I mean really.. how do you live among such people? What is the point of mutual understanding, when their starting place is that 'you're a beast who exists to serve us'?

    I think we can explain these ideas as reaction going to the point of lunacy on the part of the Tribe, in the face of abject failure and having to admit maybe they weren’t so great.

    Here they were, the chosen people, yet they couldn’t keep a country, they keep getting kicked out of everywhere they go, always clinging to whatever country would take them in, playing second fiddle to the goy, keeping to the shadowy side streets, and having to bow down to the goyim’s rules and traditions. They didn’t do it because maybe they weren’t so great and wonderful after all, it was because…’we’re actually the best!!!’

    To ask why they lost their country, or, if they were so superior, why they kept getting the short end of the stick, and if it was that they were being unfairly oppressed, how did they get that way in the first place, well, these questions the very core of what they believe of themselves, and the only response is to double down on ‘We’re the best!!!’.

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    clinging to whatever country would take them in, playing second fiddle to the goy, keeping to the shadowy side streets, and having to bow down to the goyim’s rules and traditions. They didn’t do it because maybe they weren’t so great and wonderful after all, it was because…’we’re actually the best!!!’
     
    I know an old German guy, (quite an extraordinary fellow) who believes they are quite a bit smarter than the goyim.

    just look at how much power and influence they wield in our societies. They're richer and more powerful than any other tribe bar none, and yet they have everyone treating them like victims. Talk about bowing and scraping, look at the way the goyim political supplicants offer up their services to men like Sheldon Adelson. His money and connections elicit a lordosis reflex in these goyim courtiers. Look at how Donald has to bray his eternal fealty to all things Bibi and Israel

    http://www.bizpacreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/President-Donald-Trump-Prayer-At-Western-Wall.jpg

    they mock us in our cow-like, cud-chewing mental languor. Their Hollywood movies and pop culture ridicule us as the passive-brained dullards we too often are. Look at the people who vote for John McCain or Lindsey Graham. Graham voters are voting for him to augment the 'second coming', by facilitating the slaughter of the Palestinians and thereby forcing the Christ to float back down to earth and grant them their thousand years of rapture. I shit you not!

    These people really are that mind-numbingly cretinous. And there are 70 to 80 million of them in the ZUSA alone. It's no wonder the Jews consider themselves superior. Hagee's flock treats the mortal Jews as Gods among us. They talked Woodrow Wilson into handing over the US Treasury to the world's greediest and most unprincipled international ((bankers)) for Christ's sake! And there's hardly a peep of protest as they use our own money to corrupt our government, politicians and societies and force us to fund our own civilizational funeral pyres.

    So yea, there's something to the idea that they're often smarter, but it isn't a case of them being so smart, but rather us being so infinitely, monumentally dull (and venal and corrupt)

    but then, as their religion tells them to 'kill the best of the Gentiles', I suspect that what they did in the 20th century with their fratricidal wars, causing Christian brother to slaughter Christian brother, and then imposed a generations-long genocidal slavery upon Russia and Eastern Europe, not to mention the work they've done on Germany with their death camps and horrific slow death of millions of civilians after the war.. and elsewhere with their dumbing down and political correctness that penalizes thought, I suppose it should come as no surprise that they've reduced us in such dramatic ways from what we once were, to what we are today.

    ..
  61. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Rurik

    The bible makes it quite clear, there are two races, believers and non-believers, and believers are not to mix with non-believers.

    Anyone disagreeing with this is not a Christian.

     

    you sound just like a Zionist Jew

    is that on purpose?

    Don’t tell me you actually believed Truth was a black guy?

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    I'm a Mandingo Massai Akan Ibgo WARRIOR in the below-the-zipper region!!!!


    ...(Oh yeah, and everywhere else, too.)
  62. Truth says:
    @Rurik

    The bible makes it quite clear, there are two races, believers and non-believers, and believers are not to mix with non-believers.

    Anyone disagreeing with this is not a Christian.

     

    you sound just like a Zionist Jew

    is that on purpose?

    I sound like a Zionist Jew because I am interpreting what is totally obvious, and beyond dispute, from the bible?

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  63. @LauraMR
    So?

    According to feminism, men are not human. Defective humans, at best.

    You mean according to the terrestrial whales?

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  64. Oy vey, never thought I’d have to come to the public defense of the doctors of the always-getting-it-wrong-tribe.

    Let us define non-Jew — in the context of self-serving Jewish theological thought — as a non-believer. The modern non-beliver himself will claim that he is descended from Apes. The believer will claim to the contrary, that he was made in the image of God (ADAM). No need to dig up old writings by the best that the always-gets-it-wrong-tribe managed to muster. Homo Sapiens or Adamic Human. Pick one.

    And as for Cats, they guarded Egypt’s grannaries so no wonder that the very laughable best that the tribe-that-always-gets-it-tragically-and-decisively-wrong wrote a piece dissing the sacred feline. This tribe holds a grudge like none other sparing not even the domesticated animals of their enemies.

    He who loves the sacred feline, it is they who are victorious. As for those who despise the Kitty, for them is gnashing of teeth, quite a lot of scratching, and a loss of blood.

    “And the life is in the Blood” – Torah

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  65. Truth says:
    @Anonymous
    Don't tell me you actually believed Truth was a black guy?

    I’m a Mandingo Massai Akan Ibgo WARRIOR in the below-the-zipper region!!!!

    …(Oh yeah, and everywhere else, too.)

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    Oh man - you mentioned Akan!!! Awesome!!!
  66. Druid says:
    @Pachyderm Pachyderma
    If anything, it's the Muslims who have copied the art obfuscation from Jews and everything else!

    BS, troll!

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  67. @LauraMR
    So?

    According to feminism, men are not human. Defective humans, at best.

    You mean according to the bonobos?

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  68. @Truth

    If you are Caucasian Christian/neopagan, and with an IQ of 90+, thank God for this. Because the alternative is literally hell.
     
    If you are a Caucasian "Christian" there is no conflation with Caucasian "neopagans", Caucasian Muslims, Buddhists, Jews, agnostics, satanists, or any other Caucasians: The bible makes it quite clear, there are two races, believers and non-believers, and believers are not to mix with non-believers.

    Anyone disagreeing with this is not a Christian.

    The Bible needs to be studied in light of genetic science, IQ measurements, migratory patterns. In the Old Testament where God said he created man in his image – this statement needs to be deconstructed, analyzed, reinterpreted. Blacks/Asians do not reflect well on God. What is the purpose of creating low IQ races? Was their expulsion from the Garden of Eden different from that of the Caucasians? Compare different countries. Which country is better: RCC Philippines or Shinto/Buddhist Japan? RCC El Salvador or WASP USA? RCC Haiti or Protestant Iceland? I do believe in God because when I die I want answers. I still am a Christian. As a Western woman this is the best religion for me. I’m 99.9% certain there is no life besides us on earth. If there is, the question is why haven’t they contacted us? Maybe because these other beings have low IQs. I’ve read that maybe the other beings advanced and then destroyed themselves. The sci-fi writers never fully address these issues. I know only this planet and its history. World history can be summed up in 2 words: IQ. We know who has it and who doesn’t. We cannot live on Mars, the moon or floating space stations. We need to deal with these issues.

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    Blacks/Asians do not reflect well on God.
     
    LMFAO! Why not, do you have a videotape of when you were hanging around Jerusalem 2,200 years ago?



    Was their expulsion from the Garden of Eden different from that of the Caucasians?
     
    From all I've read, there were only two people in the Garden of Eden.


    RCC El Salvador or WASP USA? RCC Haiti or Protestant Iceland?
     
    RCC, WASP and Protestant are all "Christian" from what I understand.*


    I do believe in God because when I die I want answers. I still am a Christian.
     
    Unless you take the bible for what it says, rather than what you want it to say, you are not a Christian. God says multiple times that the bible is all encompassing. Revelation 3:15-16 says in no uncertain terms, that God has a hatred for lukewarm Christians, above and bey0nd his hatred for the worshipers of other Gods, as I have aged, I have come to understand this verse. So, make your own decision. If you prioritize your white skin above your so-called faith, you will, in my humble opinion backed with bible study have to answer for this after death. But of course we, as humans have free will.

    You are free to choose your own opinions, but not your own facts.






    *All of the Popes and Jesuits as well as Martin Luther where some sort of deist/ occultist-Satanists, but that's above your level of comprehension at this point
    , @anonymous
    "n the Old Testament where God said he created man in his image – this statement needs to be deconstructed, analyzed, reinterpreted. Blacks/Asians do not reflect well on God."
    That is what NT did and got a new religion . Its time for you to start a new one in Texas or Alabama . Its a good start because low IQ may be more susceptible to accept you at your words that you received from God or figured out after deep reflections on Texan and Alabaman types of Christian beliefs .
  69. @utu
    Kabbalah is a Sephardic invention. Sabbateanism as well.

    This is (almost) true, indeed the Sephardis were more keen on Kabbalah than on Talmud. However, Sabbatai Tsevi was an Ashkenazi Jew, and he had many followers in the Ashkenaz (Poland etc), and Kabbalah while invented in Spain eventually became popular among Ashkenazi Jews.

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    Almost every Kabbalah string wearers I see, especially New York, are Ashkenazi and what is more, their sporting the red amulets has sprouted wearing of it by many of their Hispanic workers, albeit slightly different in color, material and ornamentation... it could be just a fad.
    , @utu
    No, Sabbatai Tsevi was not an Ashkenazi Jew.

    was a Sephardic ordained Rabbi, though of Romanist origin
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbatai_Zevi
     
    But you are correct that he had many followers in Poland among Ashkenazi Jews. But it seems that they all (several thousands) converted (18c) to Catholicism (received gentry titles in Poland) though they managed to maintain their separateness as some Frankist crypto-Jews for a while. What became of them after 19 century is less known than about similar but older sect of Donmeh in Turkey. Do they really still exist and maintain their lineages and secret practices? If the do, do they have influence?
    , @Bliss

    Kabbalah while invented in Spain eventually became popular among Ashkenazi Jews.
     
    It was invented in Spain (by Moses de Leon) during Muslim Arab/Berber rule. And it was not invented out of thin air. It was inspired by the Sufism of that era whose most famous exponent was Ibn Arabi who preceded the author of the Zohar.
  70. anarchyst says:
    @attilathehen
    Good points. I'vd read comments about the Talmud and their description of the goys and Jesus. According to the Kabbalah, God asks the Jews for advice. This is pure degeneracy and madness of course. The Jews are not the chosen people. They had nothing to do with Western civilization. Today's Jews marry black/Asians in high numbers. . Do not conflate biology with beliefs. Jews say they are both. Biology is destiny.

    The "Jewish supremacy/chosen tribe" mentality is given power by the RCC and Zioevangiers. Today's world problems are caused by the most evil universal belief: universal brotherhood. If we want to deal with the "Jewish question," we first need to get rid of "universal brotherhood." I believe in IQ, evolution and my Christianity and politics are based on the first two. We are now half way through 2017. The world has been mapped and settled, IQs measured and races delineated. We now know what destroyed the ancient Egyptians (Caucasians) - miscegenation with blacks; and the ancient Indian Aryans (mixing with Asians). The only superior people today (and since the beginning of time) are the Caucasians/Europeans. Jews (blacks/Asians) are not in this group. Of course all people believe their group is the best. But we have objective evidence to actually prove who is the best, i.e., the Western world. We know these peoples cannot mix with blacks/Asians so that they do not suffer the fates of the ancient Egyptians/Indians. IQ is the most important objective reality and using this measure is the beginning to solving the West's problems. The RCC/Zioevangizers will be the most trouble because of their belief in the "universal church."

    100 hundred years ago the civilized world was almost at the end of the Great War. The Bolsheviks took power in Russia. The 20th century was the bloodiest in world history. It was a different world though because Europe dominated the globe. People really believed in democracy, the brotherhood of man, progressivism of the species. The 21st century is completely different. There is nothing that can be done with low IQ people, so it is best to separate them. The West will take of its own people. The writer Paul Kersey has written articles about Baltimore, comparing the city today to when it was over 80% white in 1917. Today's 70% black Baltimore is Africa. The West is no longer there. This in the most powerful Western nation today and of all time. One of my favorite writers, Edgar Allan Poe is buried in Baltimore. No horror story that he wrote can compare with the present day horror of Baltimore. The "orthodox Jewish males" pray and thank God that they were not born a woman. If you are Caucasian Christian/neopagan, and with an IQ of 90+, thank God for this. Because the alternative is literally hell.

    The Vatican II Ecumenical Council poisoned the Catholic Church by removing the blame for the crucifixion and execution of Jesus Christ on the jews (who took full credit for murdering Jesus Christ). Both jews and Protestants influenced the Ecumenical Council to a much greater degree than most people realize. Both groups were successful in judaising and Protestantizing the Catholic Church.
    Absolving the jews for Christ’s crucifixion and execution was an egregious error.
    Fortunately, there are old-line Catholic organizations that subscribe faithfully to the pre-Vatican II Catholic faith.

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    Do you accept black/Asian priests-popes? If yes, what is your interest in the West?
    , @Learning
    From the Catechism of the Council of Trent, Chapter, from article IV on Christ’s passion: “ Gentiles and Jews were the advisors, the authors, the ministers of his Passion....”

    Before that it says all who habitually sin crucify Christ. Christians who know Him are more responsible than Jews at that time who were mistaken about him.
  71. Your humbug was proceeding well until you brought in Japan/Shinto/Buddhist v the Philippines example which negated the premise of only the White/Caucasian are capable and hence of God’s people. It seems you are vomiting the same bile you accuse the Jews of. Carl Sagan (RIP) had suggested that there are a billion galaxies each containing a billion stars like our sun…

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  72. Durruti says:
    @jacques sheete

    All these references are soundly trashed and refuted by a plethora of Jewish sites robustly defending Talmud and later texts. The defenders of Jewish faith say that the quotes mean something completely different, they are taken out of context and the translation is wrong anyway.
     
    This is typical and another side of it is that the smears against goyim live on and on

    ad infinitum.
     
    One that especially wrankles me is the still current charge of "anti-Semitism" against Charles Lindbergh the pilot. It's utterly false as are some other particularly nasty charges against the man.

    Also, they can deny it all they want because one doesn't have to go to ancient texts to find examples of anti-Goyism. All we have to do is look at how the State of Israel treats others and what some modern self appointed rabbis have to say about us. One could also read some of the comments by the hasbara brigade right here on UNZ.

    "Goyim [non-Jews] were born only to serve us." Explaining why God allowed non-Jews long lives, he added: "Imagine that your donkey would die, you’d lose your income. [The donkey] is your servant. … That’s why he [the gentile] gets a long life, to work well for the Jew."
    This summer, Yosef Elitzur and Yitzhak Shapira, who head an influential seminary in the West Bank settlement of Yitzhar, published The King’s Torah, a 230-page guide to how Jews should treat non-Jews.
    The two rabbis concluded that Jews were obligated to kill anyone who posed a danger, immediate or potential, to the Jewish people, and implied that all Palestinians were to be considered a threat. On these grounds, the pair justified killing Palestinian civilians and even their babies.

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2010/12/10/israel-s-racist-rabbis/print
     
    Lucky for the goyim that Jews have always been riven by factionalism, (read Josephus), and not all think that way.

    “One that especially wrankles me is the still current charge of “anti-Semitism” against Charles Lindbergh the pilot.”

    I do not know about Lindbergh, but I am not an Anti-Semite; I like Arabs.

    Most Jews are not Semites (Semitic peoples originating from the Mid East). Read your Koestler.

    The Anti-Semites, for the most part, are the Jewish-Zionist-Land-Thieves, who are guilty of ethnically cleansing the indigenous Palestinian inhabitants of Palestine, and through the branches of their army (the Haganah – ISIS, Al Quaida, and with the puppet American Armed Forces in tow), are busy destroying the Arab nations of Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Sudan, Libya, and attempting the same in Egypt.

    How many people do you know who have attempted to correct the incorrect use of the pejorative term, Anti-Semitic?

    The misuse of language in the service of misdirection (False Flagging) of understanding, learning, concepts, is as old as oppression itself. Recall that – distortion – the misuse of language by ruling Oligarchs was the major point in George Orwell‘s famous 1984. Recall Winston’s job? Worth a reread. The mislabeling of resistance fighters by their oppressors is an old trick. Hitler and Stalin’s regimes used it often; the Zionist and American puppet regimes, and their kept Mainstream Media recite these distortions without blinking, without even thinking.

    Nice article Israel Shamir, nice comments jacques sheete. It is about time we corrected the misuse of the term, Anti-Semite, and connect the racist crime to its true culprits.

    I have made this correction here, and on other forums, but I am not famous, and no one listens.

    Durruti – for the Anarchist Collective

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  73. Sam J. says:

    “…we know that non-Jews are also human and they are the same as Jews in their appearance. And he answers this question disclosing a cabbalistic ‘secret’, that is the deepest meaning of the text. The Gentiles are actually non-human but beasts created to serve Jews…”

    It’s actually the other way around. The Jews are a tribe of psychopaths. They are more animalistic. Wild animals are less like humans because they have very little in the way of universal “empathy”. Mankind did nothing before the flowering that came after Cro-Magnon Man came. The Neanderthals were in Europe for 250,000 years and did…nothing. Cro-Magnon Man came and began to develop empathy for others.

    Empathy is what allows civilization to flourish. Without empathy everyone cheats everyone else so routinely that civilization can not flourish. It’s why Jews have never made any decent sort of civilization when it’s just themselves in it. Lack of empathy. Since the Jews are a tribe of psychopaths and psychopathic, animalistic Man came first they believe they have rights to all the world.

    The god the Jews serve is not God. It is Satan and his demons. The sayings of god in the old testament are the ramblings of demons. Reading the nonsense there how can anyone believe differently?

    Jesus Christ words are those of God. Here’s what Jesus said about the Jews.

    JESUS CHRIST, speaking to the Jews in the Gospel of St. John, 8:44 “Ye are of your father the devil, and the lust of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is not truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar and the father of it. – then answered the Jews — ” (which makes it clear that Christ was addressing the Jews.)

    Even further( and more shaky in substance). It’s possible that the Jews are Neanderthals or have a great deal of Neanderthal in them. There’s no doubt that the very Jewy looking Jews look like Neanderthals. The Jews have put a great deal of effort into denying that physiology or the form of people bodies, their skulls, their skin color is unimportant. A great deal of effort. In many cases when the Jew persist in saying that something is of no importance then it’s likely it’s of major importance. That the morphological traits of animals changes with changes in behavior has been proven to be true. It’s likely that this trait is the same in humans.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domesticated_silver_fox

    Think of the world before Cro-Magnon came and what you see is the Neanderthal. After Cro-Magnon came they no longer ruled and the Jews(Neanderthals) hate all that came after them.

    The Jews are a tribe of psychopaths. Even if I’m wrong there is no substantial difference long term between the Jews attitude and those of a tribe of psychopaths so if you assume they are you will gain valuable insight and understand their behavior.

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  74. @Israel Shamir
    This is (almost) true, indeed the Sephardis were more keen on Kabbalah than on Talmud. However, Sabbatai Tsevi was an Ashkenazi Jew, and he had many followers in the Ashkenaz (Poland etc), and Kabbalah while invented in Spain eventually became popular among Ashkenazi Jews.

    Almost every Kabbalah string wearers I see, especially New York, are Ashkenazi and what is more, their sporting the red amulets has sprouted wearing of it by many of their Hispanic workers, albeit slightly different in color, material and ornamentation… it could be just a fad.

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  75. Rurik says: • Website
    @Anonymous
    I think we can explain these ideas as reaction going to the point of lunacy on the part of the Tribe, in the face of abject failure and having to admit maybe they weren't so great.

    Here they were, the chosen people, yet they couldn't keep a country, they keep getting kicked out of everywhere they go, always clinging to whatever country would take them in, playing second fiddle to the goy, keeping to the shadowy side streets, and having to bow down to the goyim's rules and traditions. They didn't do it because maybe they weren't so great and wonderful after all, it was because...'we're actually the best!!!'

    To ask why they lost their country, or, if they were so superior, why they kept getting the short end of the stick, and if it was that they were being unfairly oppressed, how did they get that way in the first place, well, these questions the very core of what they believe of themselves, and the only response is to double down on 'We're the best!!!'.

    clinging to whatever country would take them in, playing second fiddle to the goy, keeping to the shadowy side streets, and having to bow down to the goyim’s rules and traditions. They didn’t do it because maybe they weren’t so great and wonderful after all, it was because…’we’re actually the best!!!’

    I know an old German guy, (quite an extraordinary fellow) who believes they are quite a bit smarter than the goyim.

    just look at how much power and influence they wield in our societies. They’re richer and more powerful than any other tribe bar none, and yet they have everyone treating them like victims. Talk about bowing and scraping, look at the way the goyim political supplicants offer up their services to men like Sheldon Adelson. His money and connections elicit a lordosis reflex in these goyim courtiers. Look at how Donald has to bray his eternal fealty to all things Bibi and Israel

    they mock us in our cow-like, cud-chewing mental languor. Their Hollywood movies and pop culture ridicule us as the passive-brained dullards we too often are. Look at the people who vote for John McCain or Lindsey Graham. Graham voters are voting for him to augment the ‘second coming’, by facilitating the slaughter of the Palestinians and thereby forcing the Christ to float back down to earth and grant them their thousand years of rapture. I shit you not!

    These people really are that mind-numbingly cretinous. And there are 70 to 80 million of them in the ZUSA alone. It’s no wonder the Jews consider themselves superior. Hagee’s flock treats the mortal Jews as Gods among us. They talked Woodrow Wilson into handing over the US Treasury to the world’s greediest and most unprincipled international ((bankers)) for Christ’s sake! And there’s hardly a peep of protest as they use our own money to corrupt our government, politicians and societies and force us to fund our own civilizational funeral pyres.

    So yea, there’s something to the idea that they’re often smarter, but it isn’t a case of them being so smart, but rather us being so infinitely, monumentally dull (and venal and corrupt)

    but then, as their religion tells them to ‘kill the best of the Gentiles’, I suspect that what they did in the 20th century with their fratricidal wars, causing Christian brother to slaughter Christian brother, and then imposed a generations-long genocidal slavery upon Russia and Eastern Europe, not to mention the work they’ve done on Germany with their death camps and horrific slow death of millions of civilians after the war.. and elsewhere with their dumbing down and political correctness that penalizes thought, I suppose it should come as no surprise that they’ve reduced us in such dramatic ways from what we once were, to what we are today.

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  76. Truth says:
    @attilathehen
    The Bible needs to be studied in light of genetic science, IQ measurements, migratory patterns. In the Old Testament where God said he created man in his image - this statement needs to be deconstructed, analyzed, reinterpreted. Blacks/Asians do not reflect well on God. What is the purpose of creating low IQ races? Was their expulsion from the Garden of Eden different from that of the Caucasians? Compare different countries. Which country is better: RCC Philippines or Shinto/Buddhist Japan? RCC El Salvador or WASP USA? RCC Haiti or Protestant Iceland? I do believe in God because when I die I want answers. I still am a Christian. As a Western woman this is the best religion for me. I'm 99.9% certain there is no life besides us on earth. If there is, the question is why haven't they contacted us? Maybe because these other beings have low IQs. I've read that maybe the other beings advanced and then destroyed themselves. The sci-fi writers never fully address these issues. I know only this planet and its history. World history can be summed up in 2 words: IQ. We know who has it and who doesn't. We cannot live on Mars, the moon or floating space stations. We need to deal with these issues.

    Blacks/Asians do not reflect well on God.

    LMFAO! Why not, do you have a videotape of when you were hanging around Jerusalem 2,200 years ago?

    Was their expulsion from the Garden of Eden different from that of the Caucasians?

    From all I’ve read, there were only two people in the Garden of Eden.

    RCC El Salvador or WASP USA? RCC Haiti or Protestant Iceland?

    RCC, WASP and Protestant are all “Christian” from what I understand.*

    I do believe in God because when I die I want answers. I still am a Christian.

    Unless you take the bible for what it says, rather than what you want it to say, you are not a Christian. God says multiple times that the bible is all encompassing. Revelation 3:15-16 says in no uncertain terms, that God has a hatred for lukewarm Christians, above and bey0nd his hatred for the worshipers of other Gods, as I have aged, I have come to understand this verse. So, make your own decision. If you prioritize your white skin above your so-called faith, you will, in my humble opinion backed with bible study have to answer for this after death. But of course we, as humans have free will.

    You are free to choose your own opinions, but not your own facts.

    *All of the Popes and Jesuits as well as Martin Luther where some sort of deist/ occultist-Satanists, but that’s above your level of comprehension at this point

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    I know about the occultists in the Vatican, etc. I've read occult books.

    I know what the Bible says. But I know the reality of low IQers.

    I don't where you live. I live in an area "vibrating with diversity."

    Since you do not defend the West, Haiti, El Salvador, the Congo need people like you to help them.
    There you can live out the "real Christianity."

    I'll take the West with Europeans/Caucasians. You can have the rest.
  77. Che Guava says:
    @AndrewR
    Please elaborate on your experience with the Jews in nihon

    I would like to, could write a few thousand words on it, but since the culmination was seeing a very nasty crime in a cheap block of flats, and the govt. reacted (not to that crime, but to the general situation) by stopping the Japan as post-conscription destination for exploitation game, seriously, it would take me hours to cover the whole of bad experiences when in cheap lodgings after parental estrangement.

    I will say, even the better or nicer among them had stupid ideas, whining about the police just because the police closed down their illegal stalls. WTF do they expect?

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    It does not need to be few thousand words. But write something. How bad was the post-conscription the scam business in Japan? How did they stop it? Was there press coverage or they are also afraid and circumspect when it comes to Jews and Israel?
  78. Che Guava says:
    @AndrewR
    Please elaborate on your experience with the Jews in nihon

    I will add, not ‘the Jews’, but specifically Israelis. A few managed to marry into the Mob, suppose some of them are still here.

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  79. ONETRIBE says:

    Imagine, if you could, an article which debated, just as this one does, whether or not Jews should be considered human, or not!

    Would it ever be published?

    If it (by some miracle) were to be published, what would the uproar look like?

    The ongoing disparity between what “jews” can discuss, and what everybody else can discuss is at ridiculous inequity, and despite the systematic, coordinated propaganda in the so-called “western first world liberal democracies”, enabling the seminal discrepancy in rights and responsibilities, gentiles are starting to notice, though many, so bombarded at a waking-consciousness level, know only at a subconscious level.

    The energy behind this global level ‘dissonance’ is very, very significant, and we have entered an era, during which this stored energy may be ignited.
    All will be susceptible to such a catastrophe when it happens, for it is not a matter (any longer), of if it will happen under the intractable sociopathic policies of global zionism, which apparently has no ‘off’ switch.

    This article, whether or not written/submitted/published in good faith is a damning evidence supporting the existence of a wildly distorted perception, which fosters the monstrous inequity of rights v. responsibilities ratio, favouring adherents to zionist objectives.

    Please see the excellent article by John Pilger, “Palestine is still the issue”, also appearing at UNZ (here is the John Pilger site link): http://johnpilger.com/articles/palestine-is-still-the-issue

    Any affiliation which promotes the obvious ridiculous supernatural superstitious principles of “chosen people” under a ‘supreme’ being needs to be outlawed in civil society, including, but certainly not limited to this affiliation.

    The myth of racial commonality by this affiliation is farcically fantastic.

    Even the suggestion that genetic markers capable of tracing heredity having any kind of a correlation to physical and/or behavioural attributes is ridiculously false.

    Genetic markers capable of tracing heredity are limited to Y – chromosome typology (male only) tracing patrilineage (direct male lineage) heritage, and mitochondrial DNA, tracing matrilineal (direct female lineage) heritage.

    Race may only be VALIDLY described by a pairing of these two traceable genetic traits (for men) and the only mitochondrial DNA for women.

    Most self-described jews in the world lack either patrilineage or matrilineal genetic markings of people originating in the middle east, let alone ANY kind of meaningful genetic similarity differentiating them from the rest of the people who do not thus describe themselves.

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    "...Most self-described jews in the world lack either patrilineage or matrilineal genetic markings of people originating in the middle east, let alone ANY kind of meaningful genetic similarity differentiating them from the rest of the people who do not thus describe themselves..."

    We know the Jews use genetic test to determine who's a Jew to let them into Israel. If what you say is true then...what are they measuring?
  80. Talha says:
    @Truth
    I'm a Mandingo Massai Akan Ibgo WARRIOR in the below-the-zipper region!!!!


    ...(Oh yeah, and everywhere else, too.)

    Oh man – you mentioned Akan!!! Awesome!!!

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  81. utu says:
    @Israel Shamir
    This is (almost) true, indeed the Sephardis were more keen on Kabbalah than on Talmud. However, Sabbatai Tsevi was an Ashkenazi Jew, and he had many followers in the Ashkenaz (Poland etc), and Kabbalah while invented in Spain eventually became popular among Ashkenazi Jews.

    No, Sabbatai Tsevi was not an Ashkenazi Jew.

    was a Sephardic ordained Rabbi, though of Romanist origin

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbatai_Zevi

    But you are correct that he had many followers in Poland among Ashkenazi Jews. But it seems that they all (several thousands) converted (18c) to Catholicism (received gentry titles in Poland) though they managed to maintain their separateness as some Frankist crypto-Jews for a while. What became of them after 19 century is less known than about similar but older sect of Donmeh in Turkey. Do they really still exist and maintain their lineages and secret practices? If the do, do they have influence?

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    Sabbatai Tsevi's full name was Sabbatai Tsevi Ashkenazi, tells us Gershom Sholem in his monography.
  82. utu says:
    @Che Guava
    I would like to, could write a few thousand words on it, but since the culmination was seeing a very nasty crime in a cheap block of flats, and the govt. reacted (not to that crime, but to the general situation) by stopping the Japan as post-conscription destination for exploitation game, seriously, it would take me hours to cover the whole of bad experiences when in cheap lodgings after parental estrangement.

    I will say, even the better or nicer among them had stupid ideas, whining about the police just because the police closed down their illegal stalls. WTF do they expect?

    It does not need to be few thousand words. But write something. How bad was the post-conscription the scam business in Japan? How did they stop it? Was there press coverage or they are also afraid and circumspect when it comes to Jews and Israel?

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    Utu, it was just stopped by tracking them more closely. The custom was for them to throw their passports away, then to obtaining a fresh one at, e.g., the Israeli embassy in Thailand or the Philippines, then to returning and continue. This was largely stopped a little over fifteen yrs ago.

    I am tired, diff. time zone, I am needing to sleep. Nod then work. Could saying much more on it, but need to bd sleeping, at least the small snippet of info. I am posting above is amusing and true!

    Regards.
  83. @anarchyst
    The Vatican II Ecumenical Council poisoned the Catholic Church by removing the blame for the crucifixion and execution of Jesus Christ on the jews (who took full credit for murdering Jesus Christ). Both jews and Protestants influenced the Ecumenical Council to a much greater degree than most people realize. Both groups were successful in judaising and Protestantizing the Catholic Church.
    Absolving the jews for Christ's crucifixion and execution was an egregious error.
    Fortunately, there are old-line Catholic organizations that subscribe faithfully to the pre-Vatican II Catholic faith.

    Do you accept black/Asian priests-popes? If yes, what is your interest in the West?

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  84. @Truth

    Blacks/Asians do not reflect well on God.
     
    LMFAO! Why not, do you have a videotape of when you were hanging around Jerusalem 2,200 years ago?



    Was their expulsion from the Garden of Eden different from that of the Caucasians?
     
    From all I've read, there were only two people in the Garden of Eden.


    RCC El Salvador or WASP USA? RCC Haiti or Protestant Iceland?
     
    RCC, WASP and Protestant are all "Christian" from what I understand.*


    I do believe in God because when I die I want answers. I still am a Christian.
     
    Unless you take the bible for what it says, rather than what you want it to say, you are not a Christian. God says multiple times that the bible is all encompassing. Revelation 3:15-16 says in no uncertain terms, that God has a hatred for lukewarm Christians, above and bey0nd his hatred for the worshipers of other Gods, as I have aged, I have come to understand this verse. So, make your own decision. If you prioritize your white skin above your so-called faith, you will, in my humble opinion backed with bible study have to answer for this after death. But of course we, as humans have free will.

    You are free to choose your own opinions, but not your own facts.






    *All of the Popes and Jesuits as well as Martin Luther where some sort of deist/ occultist-Satanists, but that's above your level of comprehension at this point

    I know about the occultists in the Vatican, etc. I’ve read occult books.

    I know what the Bible says. But I know the reality of low IQers.

    I don’t where you live. I live in an area “vibrating with diversity.”

    Since you do not defend the West, Haiti, El Salvador, the Congo need people like you to help them.
    There you can live out the “real Christianity.”

    I’ll take the West with Europeans/Caucasians. You can have the rest.

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    • Replies: @Truth

    I don’t where you live. I live in an area “vibrating with diversity.”
     
    Move to Idaho, it's a free country.
  85. @utu
    No, Sabbatai Tsevi was not an Ashkenazi Jew.

    was a Sephardic ordained Rabbi, though of Romanist origin
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbatai_Zevi
     
    But you are correct that he had many followers in Poland among Ashkenazi Jews. But it seems that they all (several thousands) converted (18c) to Catholicism (received gentry titles in Poland) though they managed to maintain their separateness as some Frankist crypto-Jews for a while. What became of them after 19 century is less known than about similar but older sect of Donmeh in Turkey. Do they really still exist and maintain their lineages and secret practices? If the do, do they have influence?

    Sabbatai Tsevi’s full name was Sabbatai Tsevi Ashkenazi, tells us Gershom Sholem in his monography.

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    Sabbatai Tsevi’s full name was Sabbatai Tsevi Ashkenazi, tells us Gershom Sholem in his monographs.

    There was in the same period Tzvi Hirsch ben Yaakov Ashkenazi (Tzvi Ashkenazi) who was the opponent of Sabbatai Tsevi. You sure you did not mix up the two?

    Sabbatai's family came from Patras, presently in Greece, and descended from the Greek-speaking Jews of the Ottoman Empire. They were neither Sephardi nor Ashkenazi, but belonged to a distinctive group known as Romaniotes. His father, Mordecai, was a poor poultry dealer. Later, when Smyrna became the center of Levantine trade with Europe, Mordecai became the Smyrnian agent of an English noble house, and he acquired considerable wealth.
    http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Shabbatai_Zevi

    The British, Protestant connection is interesting. Did they have their fingers in it?

    "Thomas Coenen, the Protestant minister serving the Dutch congregation in Smyrna, tells us ... that he received the title hakham, the Sephardi honorific for a rabbi, when still an adolescent." From Scholem, Sabbatai Sevi: The Mystical Messiah: 1626–1676 p.111
  86. Che Guava says:
    @utu
    It does not need to be few thousand words. But write something. How bad was the post-conscription the scam business in Japan? How did they stop it? Was there press coverage or they are also afraid and circumspect when it comes to Jews and Israel?

    Utu, it was just stopped by tracking them more closely. The custom was for them to throw their passports away, then to obtaining a fresh one at, e.g., the Israeli embassy in Thailand or the Philippines, then to returning and continue. This was largely stopped a little over fifteen yrs ago.

    I am tired, diff. time zone, I am needing to sleep. Nod then work. Could saying much more on it, but need to bd sleeping, at least the small snippet of info. I am posting above is amusing and true!

    Regards.

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  87. Truth says:
    @attilathehen
    I know about the occultists in the Vatican, etc. I've read occult books.

    I know what the Bible says. But I know the reality of low IQers.

    I don't where you live. I live in an area "vibrating with diversity."

    Since you do not defend the West, Haiti, El Salvador, the Congo need people like you to help them.
    There you can live out the "real Christianity."

    I'll take the West with Europeans/Caucasians. You can have the rest.

    I don’t where you live. I live in an area “vibrating with diversity.”

    Move to Idaho, it’s a free country.

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    • Replies: @Talha
    Hey Truth,

    I know some Christians (good folks) and you probably know more. Does this racialized Christianity have any significant traction in your communities? I mean, from everything I've read about Christianity from Christians and also from the Islamic perspective about what its message is; it has always been about a kind of universal brotherhood - that doesn't mean open-borders-communism, but rather the assumption that all are the children of Adam (pbuh). Correct? Also that in light of all factors, it is the spirit and heart that is supreme and the locus of God's attention, irrespective of one's physical form or genetic advantages/disadvantages - correct?

    Furthermore, the racialized Christianity which favors "whites" plays a funny game. Why should the division stop at "whites"? Why doesn't it get even more granular down to the ethnic composition - why should Greeks and Danes and Irish attend the same church? They are different too. Heck, even forget Spain; why shouldn't the Aragonese, Catalans, Basques and others consider themselves separate (which some do)?

    The whole thing seems so convoluted and against the core ethos of the religion - one that made it so stunningly successful.

    Peace.
    , @attilathehen
    Queen Isabella of Spain is one of my heroines. She kicked out the Jews/Muslims from Spain. I will not run away. I am part of the reconquista. Sounds like you live in Iowa or Vermont.


    Hey Talha, how about that Queen Isabella. She was great.

  88. Thank you Mr. Shamir for a very interesting and informative article on a very important–and esoteric–subject.

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  89. Talha says:
    @Truth

    I don’t where you live. I live in an area “vibrating with diversity.”
     
    Move to Idaho, it's a free country.

    Hey Truth,

    I know some Christians (good folks) and you probably know more. Does this racialized Christianity have any significant traction in your communities? I mean, from everything I’ve read about Christianity from Christians and also from the Islamic perspective about what its message is; it has always been about a kind of universal brotherhood – that doesn’t mean open-borders-communism, but rather the assumption that all are the children of Adam (pbuh). Correct? Also that in light of all factors, it is the spirit and heart that is supreme and the locus of God’s attention, irrespective of one’s physical form or genetic advantages/disadvantages – correct?

    Furthermore, the racialized Christianity which favors “whites” plays a funny game. Why should the division stop at “whites”? Why doesn’t it get even more granular down to the ethnic composition – why should Greeks and Danes and Irish attend the same church? They are different too. Heck, even forget Spain; why shouldn’t the Aragonese, Catalans, Basques and others consider themselves separate (which some do)?

    The whole thing seems so convoluted and against the core ethos of the religion – one that made it so stunningly successful.

    Peace.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    Racialism isn't really concerned with religion which, as you mentioned, is about the salvation of souls among other less important things. However, all normal people are racialist or HBDist to some extent because the differences between races are fairly obvious and invite further speculation. The Arabs in particular were certainly no slouches in this department.
    , @Truth
    Thanks Talha;

    There are black Christian Churches, white Christian Churches and everything in-between. I think most people are simply more comfortable with a majority of people around who look like them, and that is fine. It would be nice to live in a world of total harmony, and that is, if you believe the end of the New Testament, what God will bring about at some point, but we are not there yet, and can not hope to be at any time near.

    I have no problem with people wanting to be near "their own" except in two instances; 1. we are American, and every American has the right to live anywhere he can afford.
    2. Someone who is interpreting the bible to his own personal beliefs. This is a blaspheme, nothing more. I have read theories as to why God did not touch upon skin color (other than lepers) in the bible, but from what I can ascertain, he probably just didn't find it that important.

    One thing that I learned from being in the Middle East for two years is, surprisingly, that true Muslims, (and they are as few as true Christians) are probably closer to the true Christian tradition, (daily prayer, head covering for women, modest dress, etc.) than that of your average pagan Christian who celebrates Christmas (has nothing to do with Christ, is pagan), and lives what we identify as the "Christian" life.

    Yes, true Christianity is supposed to be a Universal brotherhood, but in light of all of the Zionist/Satanist deception in our daily lives, this is difficult, but keeping the ideal in mind, in my opinion, is part of Christianity.
  90. @Truth

    I don’t where you live. I live in an area “vibrating with diversity.”
     
    Move to Idaho, it's a free country.

    Queen Isabella of Spain is one of my heroines. She kicked out the Jews/Muslims from Spain. I will not run away. I am part of the reconquista. Sounds like you live in Iowa or Vermont.

    Hey Talha, how about that Queen Isabella. She was great.

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    Hey Da Hen,

    Yeah - but she ain't got nothing on Queen Boudica - now that's some serious whup-a** in a skirt!

    Like I said though - no need to kick someone like me out - just serve me the legal notice - I'm a law-abiding guy. I mean, you're a High IQ lady - you don't want society turned into a free-fire zone with Muslims around, right? That's just un-awesome, silly business.

    Or is this the reaction you're looking for:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9oWq9zIXTY

    Peace.
    , @Truth
    I live in Albuquerque NM. I recently returned from a few years overseas in Kuwait City, Kuwait.
  91. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Talha
    Hey Truth,

    I know some Christians (good folks) and you probably know more. Does this racialized Christianity have any significant traction in your communities? I mean, from everything I've read about Christianity from Christians and also from the Islamic perspective about what its message is; it has always been about a kind of universal brotherhood - that doesn't mean open-borders-communism, but rather the assumption that all are the children of Adam (pbuh). Correct? Also that in light of all factors, it is the spirit and heart that is supreme and the locus of God's attention, irrespective of one's physical form or genetic advantages/disadvantages - correct?

    Furthermore, the racialized Christianity which favors "whites" plays a funny game. Why should the division stop at "whites"? Why doesn't it get even more granular down to the ethnic composition - why should Greeks and Danes and Irish attend the same church? They are different too. Heck, even forget Spain; why shouldn't the Aragonese, Catalans, Basques and others consider themselves separate (which some do)?

    The whole thing seems so convoluted and against the core ethos of the religion - one that made it so stunningly successful.

    Peace.

    Racialism isn’t really concerned with religion which, as you mentioned, is about the salvation of souls among other less important things. However, all normal people are racialist or HBDist to some extent because the differences between races are fairly obvious and invite further speculation. The Arabs in particular were certainly no slouches in this department.

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    • Replies: @Talha

    However, all normal people are racialist or HBDist to some extent because the differences between races are fairly obvious and invite further speculation.
     
    Sure, just like people are materialist at a base level. It is the abuse or excess in regards to that which we naturally gravitate to, in the phenomenal world, that religion came to remedy. There is a healthy love for one's people, culture, history* - which is actually a form of gratitude to the Divine, since none of us chose which wombs bore us and thus, this is being accepting and thankful for His decree. And of course there is an unhealthy attitude towards the subject - which is boasting or lording over people something one had zero volition in - which is a spiritually daft way to approach things.

    The Master Shipwright cast us into the waters on ships He chose for us. Some are marveling at the ship they were assigned and casting aspersions on the lesser boats passing by. The vessel is only relevant insofar as the final harbor it decides to dock in and the route it takes on its journey. Once it reaches the shore and the passenger alights, it will flounder; the raft, the dinghy, the catamaran and the galleon.

    Peace.

    *Note: As I've mentioned, my children are part Swede. There is a wonderful concise book on the history of Sweden that I own:
    https://www.amazon.com/Swedish-History-Outline-Jorgen-Weibull/dp/9152002942

    I am going to be starting to read to my boys briefly from it on weeknights; I want them to be grateful to God for that side of their heritage (and fluent in its history) as much as any other.
  92. Talha says:
    @attilathehen
    Queen Isabella of Spain is one of my heroines. She kicked out the Jews/Muslims from Spain. I will not run away. I am part of the reconquista. Sounds like you live in Iowa or Vermont.


    Hey Talha, how about that Queen Isabella. She was great.

    Hey Da Hen,

    Yeah – but she ain’t got nothing on Queen Boudica – now that’s some serious whup-a** in a skirt!

    Like I said though – no need to kick someone like me out – just serve me the legal notice – I’m a law-abiding guy. I mean, you’re a High IQ lady – you don’t want society turned into a free-fire zone with Muslims around, right? That’s just un-awesome, silly business.

    Or is this the reaction you’re looking for:

    Peace.

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    • Replies: @attilathehen
    Hey Talha. Like I said before, it's a coming. Trump is working on this. I can only do so much. I don't work for the government.

    You and your low IQ wife, offspring will be gone. Back to that glorious average IQ 84 country called Pakistan.
  93. Truth says:
    @Talha
    Hey Truth,

    I know some Christians (good folks) and you probably know more. Does this racialized Christianity have any significant traction in your communities? I mean, from everything I've read about Christianity from Christians and also from the Islamic perspective about what its message is; it has always been about a kind of universal brotherhood - that doesn't mean open-borders-communism, but rather the assumption that all are the children of Adam (pbuh). Correct? Also that in light of all factors, it is the spirit and heart that is supreme and the locus of God's attention, irrespective of one's physical form or genetic advantages/disadvantages - correct?

    Furthermore, the racialized Christianity which favors "whites" plays a funny game. Why should the division stop at "whites"? Why doesn't it get even more granular down to the ethnic composition - why should Greeks and Danes and Irish attend the same church? They are different too. Heck, even forget Spain; why shouldn't the Aragonese, Catalans, Basques and others consider themselves separate (which some do)?

    The whole thing seems so convoluted and against the core ethos of the religion - one that made it so stunningly successful.

    Peace.

    Thanks Talha;

    There are black Christian Churches, white Christian Churches and everything in-between. I think most people are simply more comfortable with a majority of people around who look like them, and that is fine. It would be nice to live in a world of total harmony, and that is, if you believe the end of the New Testament, what God will bring about at some point, but we are not there yet, and can not hope to be at any time near.

    I have no problem with people wanting to be near “their own” except in two instances; 1. we are American, and every American has the right to live anywhere he can afford.
    2. Someone who is interpreting the bible to his own personal beliefs. This is a blaspheme, nothing more. I have read theories as to why God did not touch upon skin color (other than lepers) in the bible, but from what I can ascertain, he probably just didn’t find it that important.

    One thing that I learned from being in the Middle East for two years is, surprisingly, that true Muslims, (and they are as few as true Christians) are probably closer to the true Christian tradition, (daily prayer, head covering for women, modest dress, etc.) than that of your average pagan Christian who celebrates Christmas (has nothing to do with Christ, is pagan), and lives what we identify as the “Christian” life.

    Yes, true Christianity is supposed to be a Universal brotherhood, but in light of all of the Zionist/Satanist deception in our daily lives, this is difficult, but keeping the ideal in mind, in my opinion, is part of Christianity.

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    Hey Truth,

    I have read theories as to why God did not touch upon skin color
     
    I can't speak much for Christianity, but I know in the Qur'an, He takes credit for the variations in humanity as part of the Divine will and as His signs:
    "And among His Signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the differences of your languages and colors. Verily, in those are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." (30:22)

    "O mankind! Verily We have created you male and female, and have made you nations and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the noblest of you, in the sight of God, is the most righteous. Indeed, God is All-Knowing, All-Aware." (49:13)

    but keeping the ideal in mind, in my opinion, is part of Christianity
     
    Perhaps this is part of the test. Universal brotherhood is easy when everyone looks and sounds like you. Rather, the claims of brotherhood are put to the test when differences are real and present. Again - it comes down to metaphysics; are you unable to see past the shell? Or can you see the spirit? Can the white man learn with humility at the feet of a black man? Can the black man learn with humility at the feet of the white?

    Peace.
    , @Anon
    The Old Testament is specifically racialist, obviously in that it singles out the Jews, and also in such things as that the priesthood was reserved to the tribe of Levi.

    The NT is the other way, with various Romans and that Ethiopian being baptized. I'm surprised you seem to view Apocalypse as promising a period of harmony on Earth, but that's not really a discussion to have here.
  94. Truth says:
    @attilathehen
    Queen Isabella of Spain is one of my heroines. She kicked out the Jews/Muslims from Spain. I will not run away. I am part of the reconquista. Sounds like you live in Iowa or Vermont.


    Hey Talha, how about that Queen Isabella. She was great.

    I live in Albuquerque NM. I recently returned from a few years overseas in Kuwait City, Kuwait.

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    • Replies: @attilathehen
    I've been to the Middle East. No Muslim is pious. You believe in "universal church," "universal brotherhood," - the 2 most evil oxymoronic beliefs that plague the world. You and Talha are perfect examples of this degeneracy.

    I quote facts and you give me mumbo jumbo.

  95. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @attilathehen
    The Bible needs to be studied in light of genetic science, IQ measurements, migratory patterns. In the Old Testament where God said he created man in his image - this statement needs to be deconstructed, analyzed, reinterpreted. Blacks/Asians do not reflect well on God. What is the purpose of creating low IQ races? Was their expulsion from the Garden of Eden different from that of the Caucasians? Compare different countries. Which country is better: RCC Philippines or Shinto/Buddhist Japan? RCC El Salvador or WASP USA? RCC Haiti or Protestant Iceland? I do believe in God because when I die I want answers. I still am a Christian. As a Western woman this is the best religion for me. I'm 99.9% certain there is no life besides us on earth. If there is, the question is why haven't they contacted us? Maybe because these other beings have low IQs. I've read that maybe the other beings advanced and then destroyed themselves. The sci-fi writers never fully address these issues. I know only this planet and its history. World history can be summed up in 2 words: IQ. We know who has it and who doesn't. We cannot live on Mars, the moon or floating space stations. We need to deal with these issues.

    “n the Old Testament where God said he created man in his image – this statement needs to be deconstructed, analyzed, reinterpreted. Blacks/Asians do not reflect well on God.”
    That is what NT did and got a new religion . Its time for you to start a new one in Texas or Alabama . Its a good start because low IQ may be more susceptible to accept you at your words that you received from God or figured out after deep reflections on Texan and Alabaman types of Christian beliefs .

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  96. Talha says:
    @Anon
    Racialism isn't really concerned with religion which, as you mentioned, is about the salvation of souls among other less important things. However, all normal people are racialist or HBDist to some extent because the differences between races are fairly obvious and invite further speculation. The Arabs in particular were certainly no slouches in this department.

    However, all normal people are racialist or HBDist to some extent because the differences between races are fairly obvious and invite further speculation.

    Sure, just like people are materialist at a base level. It is the abuse or excess in regards to that which we naturally gravitate to, in the phenomenal world, that religion came to remedy. There is a healthy love for one’s people, culture, history* – which is actually a form of gratitude to the Divine, since none of us chose which wombs bore us and thus, this is being accepting and thankful for His decree. And of course there is an unhealthy attitude towards the subject – which is boasting or lording over people something one had zero volition in – which is a spiritually daft way to approach things.

    The Master Shipwright cast us into the waters on ships He chose for us. Some are marveling at the ship they were assigned and casting aspersions on the lesser boats passing by. The vessel is only relevant insofar as the final harbor it decides to dock in and the route it takes on its journey. Once it reaches the shore and the passenger alights, it will flounder; the raft, the dinghy, the catamaran and the galleon.

    Peace.

    *Note: As I’ve mentioned, my children are part Swede. There is a wonderful concise book on the history of Sweden that I own:

    https://www.amazon.com/Swedish-History-Outline-Jorgen-Weibull/dp/9152002942

    I am going to be starting to read to my boys briefly from it on weeknights; I want them to be grateful to God for that side of their heritage (and fluent in its history) as much as any other.

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    • Replies: @Talha

    there is an unhealthy attitude towards the subject – which is boasting or lording over people something one had zero volition in
     
    There is also another spiritually unhealthy attitude - one that seems to be promoted by the Left. That is self-hate of one's people. This is also being ungrateful for the circumstances God placed one in or His choice into which people one was born.
  97. annamaria says:

    Current implications of the sub-humanness:
    “Behold, A Pale Horse: Its Rider Is Named Neocon And Hell Follows Him”

    https://theintercept.com/2017/07/17/with-new-d-c-policy-group-dems-continue-to-rehabilitate-and-unify-with-bush-era-neocons/

    http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/07/18/behold-pale-horse-rider-named-neocon-hell-follows/

    “Neocons have done far more damage to the U.S., and the world, than any other single group — by a good margin. They were the architects of the invasion of Iraq and the lies that accompanied it, the worldwide torture regime instituted after 9/11, and the general political climate that equated dissent with treason.”
    The neocon/ziocon cabal is Treason.

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  98. Talha says:
    @Truth
    Thanks Talha;

    There are black Christian Churches, white Christian Churches and everything in-between. I think most people are simply more comfortable with a majority of people around who look like them, and that is fine. It would be nice to live in a world of total harmony, and that is, if you believe the end of the New Testament, what God will bring about at some point, but we are not there yet, and can not hope to be at any time near.

    I have no problem with people wanting to be near "their own" except in two instances; 1. we are American, and every American has the right to live anywhere he can afford.
    2. Someone who is interpreting the bible to his own personal beliefs. This is a blaspheme, nothing more. I have read theories as to why God did not touch upon skin color (other than lepers) in the bible, but from what I can ascertain, he probably just didn't find it that important.

    One thing that I learned from being in the Middle East for two years is, surprisingly, that true Muslims, (and they are as few as true Christians) are probably closer to the true Christian tradition, (daily prayer, head covering for women, modest dress, etc.) than that of your average pagan Christian who celebrates Christmas (has nothing to do with Christ, is pagan), and lives what we identify as the "Christian" life.

    Yes, true Christianity is supposed to be a Universal brotherhood, but in light of all of the Zionist/Satanist deception in our daily lives, this is difficult, but keeping the ideal in mind, in my opinion, is part of Christianity.

    Hey Truth,

    I have read theories as to why God did not touch upon skin color

    I can’t speak much for Christianity, but I know in the Qur’an, He takes credit for the variations in humanity as part of the Divine will and as His signs:
    “And among His Signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the differences of your languages and colors. Verily, in those are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge.” (30:22)

    “O mankind! Verily We have created you male and female, and have made you nations and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the noblest of you, in the sight of God, is the most righteous. Indeed, God is All-Knowing, All-Aware.” (49:13)

    but keeping the ideal in mind, in my opinion, is part of Christianity

    Perhaps this is part of the test. Universal brotherhood is easy when everyone looks and sounds like you. Rather, the claims of brotherhood are put to the test when differences are real and present. Again – it comes down to metaphysics; are you unable to see past the shell? Or can you see the spirit? Can the white man learn with humility at the feet of a black man? Can the black man learn with humility at the feet of the white?

    Peace.

    Read More
  99. Talha says:
    @Talha

    However, all normal people are racialist or HBDist to some extent because the differences between races are fairly obvious and invite further speculation.
     
    Sure, just like people are materialist at a base level. It is the abuse or excess in regards to that which we naturally gravitate to, in the phenomenal world, that religion came to remedy. There is a healthy love for one's people, culture, history* - which is actually a form of gratitude to the Divine, since none of us chose which wombs bore us and thus, this is being accepting and thankful for His decree. And of course there is an unhealthy attitude towards the subject - which is boasting or lording over people something one had zero volition in - which is a spiritually daft way to approach things.

    The Master Shipwright cast us into the waters on ships He chose for us. Some are marveling at the ship they were assigned and casting aspersions on the lesser boats passing by. The vessel is only relevant insofar as the final harbor it decides to dock in and the route it takes on its journey. Once it reaches the shore and the passenger alights, it will flounder; the raft, the dinghy, the catamaran and the galleon.

    Peace.

    *Note: As I've mentioned, my children are part Swede. There is a wonderful concise book on the history of Sweden that I own:
    https://www.amazon.com/Swedish-History-Outline-Jorgen-Weibull/dp/9152002942

    I am going to be starting to read to my boys briefly from it on weeknights; I want them to be grateful to God for that side of their heritage (and fluent in its history) as much as any other.

    there is an unhealthy attitude towards the subject – which is boasting or lording over people something one had zero volition in

    There is also another spiritually unhealthy attitude – one that seems to be promoted by the Left. That is self-hate of one’s people. This is also being ungrateful for the circumstances God placed one in or His choice into which people one was born.

    Read More
  100. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Truth
    Thanks Talha;

    There are black Christian Churches, white Christian Churches and everything in-between. I think most people are simply more comfortable with a majority of people around who look like them, and that is fine. It would be nice to live in a world of total harmony, and that is, if you believe the end of the New Testament, what God will bring about at some point, but we are not there yet, and can not hope to be at any time near.

    I have no problem with people wanting to be near "their own" except in two instances; 1. we are American, and every American has the right to live anywhere he can afford.
    2. Someone who is interpreting the bible to his own personal beliefs. This is a blaspheme, nothing more. I have read theories as to why God did not touch upon skin color (other than lepers) in the bible, but from what I can ascertain, he probably just didn't find it that important.

    One thing that I learned from being in the Middle East for two years is, surprisingly, that true Muslims, (and they are as few as true Christians) are probably closer to the true Christian tradition, (daily prayer, head covering for women, modest dress, etc.) than that of your average pagan Christian who celebrates Christmas (has nothing to do with Christ, is pagan), and lives what we identify as the "Christian" life.

    Yes, true Christianity is supposed to be a Universal brotherhood, but in light of all of the Zionist/Satanist deception in our daily lives, this is difficult, but keeping the ideal in mind, in my opinion, is part of Christianity.

    The Old Testament is specifically racialist, obviously in that it singles out the Jews, and also in such things as that the priesthood was reserved to the tribe of Levi.

    The NT is the other way, with various Romans and that Ethiopian being baptized. I’m surprised you seem to view Apocalypse as promising a period of harmony on Earth, but that’s not really a discussion to have here.

    Read More
  101. @Truth
    I live in Albuquerque NM. I recently returned from a few years overseas in Kuwait City, Kuwait.

    I’ve been to the Middle East. No Muslim is pious. You believe in “universal church,” “universal brotherhood,” – the 2 most evil oxymoronic beliefs that plague the world. You and Talha are perfect examples of this degeneracy.

    I quote facts and you give me mumbo jumbo.

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    • Replies: @Truth
    No Christian is pious, that's why one must accept Jesus to get into heaven. The alternative is in having had a life without sin, and I know no one who fits that description.
  102. @anonymous
    "n the Old Testament where God said he created man in his image – this statement needs to be deconstructed, analyzed, reinterpreted. Blacks/Asians do not reflect well on God."
    That is what NT did and got a new religion . Its time for you to start a new one in Texas or Alabama . Its a good start because low IQ may be more susceptible to accept you at your words that you received from God or figured out after deep reflections on Texan and Alabaman types of Christian beliefs .

    Another who can’t deal with facts and reality.

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  103. @Talha
    Hey Da Hen,

    Yeah - but she ain't got nothing on Queen Boudica - now that's some serious whup-a** in a skirt!

    Like I said though - no need to kick someone like me out - just serve me the legal notice - I'm a law-abiding guy. I mean, you're a High IQ lady - you don't want society turned into a free-fire zone with Muslims around, right? That's just un-awesome, silly business.

    Or is this the reaction you're looking for:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9oWq9zIXTY

    Peace.

    Hey Talha. Like I said before, it’s a coming. Trump is working on this. I can only do so much. I don’t work for the government.

    You and your low IQ wife, offspring will be gone. Back to that glorious average IQ 84 country called Pakistan.

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    You are just plain rude, and low class. Talha goes out of his way to be polite to everyone here and you even have the gall to insult his wife, the mother of his children? I have little doubt that they each have a greater IQ than you, not to mention a lot more class too.

    Your limited understanding of Christianity merely illustrates your enormous limitations.
    , @Talha
    Hey Da Hen,

    it’s a coming
     
    I know! Can you believe it??!!

    Trump is working on this.
     
    I don't know sis-bro, last time I heard, homeboy was doing the sword dance with the Saudis and apparently getting lessons on the Sunnah way to eat and drink from the king:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1czdSurPI4

    I'd check the guy's birth certificate because you know; one taqiyya-Muzzie as president, shame on us - two taqiyyah-Muzzies in office, shame on you!

    You should ask him publicly if he is Muslim. If he denies it, you'll know that he is because they are supposed to lie about that stuff.

    I don’t work for the government.
     
    Dang, that totally sucks - I was hoping you could delay the expulsion by at least two years so my teenage daughter can finish high school. You know how teenagers are; I'll have to hear, "Daaad - but I just made new friends!!!" all the way to Jinnah International - totally sucks.

    You and your low IQ wife, offspring will be gone.
     
    Yeah - once all of us retarted colored people (aka. "The Man") are no longer keeping the White Man down - there is no limit to what he will be able to achieve. It will be glorious; no more divorces, end to obesity...total awesomeness! But I think that MAGA is too vague of a slogan - nobody knows what that means exactly. I suggest something more real, visceral that can be experienced - how about:
    "Imagine Hungary, But Better!"

    Peace.
    , @Art
    Hey Talha. Like I said before, it’s a coming. Trump is working on this. I can only do so much. I don’t work for the government.

    You and your low IQ wife, offspring will be gone. Back to that glorious average IQ 84 country called Pakistan.

    Hey Johnny – Johnny Hagee – is that you – are you working on next Sunday’s sermon?

    Does your lovely wife want a new quarter million-dollar Mercedes?

    Go to work Johnny – do it again - work’em up, pump the fear, and pass the collection plate!

    Your bait and switch routine is still working – wrap yourself in Jesus – but hook them on old testament tribal hate.

    Peace --- Art

    p.s. Say Johnny – it would do your chances of not going to hell much good, if you would open the new testament and find Jesus’ loving philosophy for living.

  104. utu says:
    @Israel Shamir
    Sabbatai Tsevi's full name was Sabbatai Tsevi Ashkenazi, tells us Gershom Sholem in his monography.

    Sabbatai Tsevi’s full name was Sabbatai Tsevi Ashkenazi, tells us Gershom Sholem in his monographs.

    There was in the same period Tzvi Hirsch ben Yaakov Ashkenazi (Tzvi Ashkenazi) who was the opponent of Sabbatai Tsevi. You sure you did not mix up the two?

    Sabbatai’s family came from Patras, presently in Greece, and descended from the Greek-speaking Jews of the Ottoman Empire. They were neither Sephardi nor Ashkenazi, but belonged to a distinctive group known as Romaniotes. His father, Mordecai, was a poor poultry dealer. Later, when Smyrna became the center of Levantine trade with Europe, Mordecai became the Smyrnian agent of an English noble house, and he acquired considerable wealth.

    http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Shabbatai_Zevi

    The British, Protestant connection is interesting. Did they have their fingers in it?

    “Thomas Coenen, the Protestant minister serving the Dutch congregation in Smyrna, tells us … that he received the title hakham, the Sephardi honorific for a rabbi, when still an adolescent.” From Scholem, Sabbatai Sevi: The Mystical Messiah: 1626–1676 p.111

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  105. @attilathehen
    Hey Talha. Like I said before, it's a coming. Trump is working on this. I can only do so much. I don't work for the government.

    You and your low IQ wife, offspring will be gone. Back to that glorious average IQ 84 country called Pakistan.

    You are just plain rude, and low class. Talha goes out of his way to be polite to everyone here and you even have the gall to insult his wife, the mother of his children? I have little doubt that they each have a greater IQ than you, not to mention a lot more class too.

    Your limited understanding of Christianity merely illustrates your enormous limitations.

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    Doh! Now you did it - you couldn't just leave well enough alone, eh?

    Better get ready to be grilled about:
    1) ethnic/racial background
    2) religious affiliation
    3) IQ score
    4) marital status
    5) ...

    And expect to get some "cuck" and "degenerate" on your shirt - it's like sitting center stage at a Gallagher show.

    Next time bro - just duck and enjoy the fireworks! :)

    Peace.
    , @attilathehen
    Are you really Christian? Or Jewish, Asian, involved with either? Another one who can't deal with the ultimate objective reality, IQ? I am stating facts. Talha is a Pakistani Muslim. He comes from a country with an average IQ of 84. He is brighter, in their talented 10%. But he is not from the West. He is a Muslim (a Christian heresy) and Asian (not European/Caucasian). His wife converted to Islam, another sign of degeneracy. These are the facts about Talha.
    , @Talha

    Are you...
     
    LOOL!!! Did I call it or what??!!

    sign of degeneracy
     
    ROTFL!!! Just be glad you didn't get hit in the eye with a "cuck" - consider yourself lucky.

    Long live Da Hen!!! Long may she post!!!

    Peace.
  106. Jake says:

    Culturally, the most important quote in the article: “In his days, Jews lived in Ottoman Empire and in Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth; so it is a Polish Jew or a Turkish Jew. Smyrna (Izmir) was a great centre of Jewish learning, and books of RES were translated into Yiddisch for the Polish Jews.”

    So Polish Jews spoke and read Yiddish, which is German.

    So did late the Russian Jews (the majority of whom has been Polish Empire Jews, and the rest Turkish Empire Jews).

    Jews are drawn to Germanic culture and Germanic languages (such as Anglo-Saxon) like Green flies to cow patties.

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  107. annamaria says:

    How the US government has betrayed the US military personnel to satisfy AIPAC desires: “Murder Of Green Berets In Jordan Exposed Secretive CIA Syria Program Details” http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-18/murder-green-berets-jordan-exposed-secretive-cia-syria-program-details
    “The Obama White House and the intelligence bureaucracy sought legal loopholes to prevent prosecution of US officials for training terrorists as part of the covert Syria program.
    Last November the three Green Berets were entering King Faisal Air Base assigned as part of the CIA’s ‘Timber Sycamore’ training. According to court testimony as well as evidence collected by the Pentagon, a soldier in the US-allied Jordanian Army opened fire as the Green Berets’ convoy was stopped in front of the base. The Jordanian guard fired for six minutes, reloading multiple rifle magazines. .. the initially suppressed surveillance footage captured the entire event, and confirms a methodical and willed attack… As Foreign Affairs reported, “they [the Green berets] were hunted down and executed at close range.”
    One month before the attack at King Faisal Air Base, a Green Beret associated with covert operations in Syria spoke out to a prominent military news site called SOFREP, blowing the whistle on details surrounding the CIA’s use of jihadists to overthrow Assad:
    “Nobody believes in it. You’re like, ‘F–k this.’ Everyone on the ground knows they are jihadis. No one on the ground believes in this mission or this effort, and they know they are just training the next generation of jihadis, so they are sabotaging it by saying, ‘F–k it, who cares?’
    The lengthy whistleblower report … revealed that American Syrian rebel trainers (in Jordan and elsewhere) belonging to the Army’s 5th Special Forces Group had been tasked with assisting a CIA covert mission, but they knew full well that they were being ordered by the Obama administration to train jihadists and ISIS sympathizers in the push to topple the Syrian government. They warned blowback was coming as the CIA was violating America’s own counter-terror laws.”

    The bereaved relatives of the slain Green Berets want justice. They want to know how come that the CIA used their sons for the illegal training of the ISIS/Al Qaeda “moderate fighters,” while making the Green Berets the targets for the poorly wetted jihadis:
    “The slaying of three Green Berets comes after years of the Special Forces soldiers assigned to the CIA’s Timber Sycamore program complaining that the moderate rebels they had been sent to train were actually ISIS and al-Nusra infiltrators. The vetting that the CIA does of the rebels is dubious at best, consisting of biometric trace searches in old databases which are far from comprehensive. The Special Forces soldiers have repeatedly brought up the fact that the rebels they have to train have also failed their polygraphs and display allegiances to Islamists during interviews.”
    The arm-chair deciders in Obama administration and the careerists at the CIA cared not at all about the American troops, and instead they cared a lot about good relationships with AIPAC.

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  108. Talha says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    You are just plain rude, and low class. Talha goes out of his way to be polite to everyone here and you even have the gall to insult his wife, the mother of his children? I have little doubt that they each have a greater IQ than you, not to mention a lot more class too.

    Your limited understanding of Christianity merely illustrates your enormous limitations.

    Doh! Now you did it – you couldn’t just leave well enough alone, eh?

    Better get ready to be grilled about:
    1) ethnic/racial background
    2) religious affiliation
    3) IQ score
    4) marital status
    5) …

    And expect to get some “cuck” and “degenerate” on your shirt – it’s like sitting center stage at a Gallagher show.

    Next time bro – just duck and enjoy the fireworks! :)

    Peace.

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  109. Truth says:
    @Anon
    The Old Testament is specifically racialist, obviously in that it singles out the Jews, and also in such things as that the priesthood was reserved to the tribe of Levi.

    The NT is the other way, with various Romans and that Ethiopian being baptized. I'm surprised you seem to view Apocalypse as promising a period of harmony on Earth, but that's not really a discussion to have here.

    Post-apocalypse.

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  110. Truth says:
    @Anon
    The Old Testament is specifically racialist, obviously in that it singles out the Jews, and also in such things as that the priesthood was reserved to the tribe of Levi.

    The NT is the other way, with various Romans and that Ethiopian being baptized. I'm surprised you seem to view Apocalypse as promising a period of harmony on Earth, but that's not really a discussion to have here.

    Tribes, not “races.”

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  111. Truth says:
    @attilathehen
    I've been to the Middle East. No Muslim is pious. You believe in "universal church," "universal brotherhood," - the 2 most evil oxymoronic beliefs that plague the world. You and Talha are perfect examples of this degeneracy.

    I quote facts and you give me mumbo jumbo.

    No Christian is pious, that’s why one must accept Jesus to get into heaven. The alternative is in having had a life without sin, and I know no one who fits that description.

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  112. Bliss says:
    @Israel Shamir
    This is (almost) true, indeed the Sephardis were more keen on Kabbalah than on Talmud. However, Sabbatai Tsevi was an Ashkenazi Jew, and he had many followers in the Ashkenaz (Poland etc), and Kabbalah while invented in Spain eventually became popular among Ashkenazi Jews.

    Kabbalah while invented in Spain eventually became popular among Ashkenazi Jews.

    It was invented in Spain (by Moses de Leon) during Muslim Arab/Berber rule. And it was not invented out of thin air. It was inspired by the Sufism of that era whose most famous exponent was Ibn Arabi who preceded the author of the Zohar.

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    As far as I know, de Leon didn't live under Muslim rule. He was born in Leon, and died in Avila; both became Christian 200 years before his birth. He could be inspired by Sufism via Christian gnostics.
  113. hobo says:
    @Rurik
    I wonder if it's possible that this codified anti-Gentile arrogance of 'the Jews', (Kol Nidre, et al) might have led them to certain behaviors which were considered hostile by the goyim. (Calling goyim women and girls 'shiksa' for instance, with its derogatory insinuations.. other things.. )

    and that perhaps it was these actions on the part of 'the Jews', that may have led to certain persecutions?

    if
    , the goyim are indeed human, then that would mean that it wouldn't just be wrong to treat them as beasts, but indeed, that these people would be justified in being outraged at being considered and treated as less than human, no?

    and if such outrages were based on genuine harm that was visited upon the Gentiles/goyim..

    who actually are human, and deserve to be treated as such, then doesn't that justify the actions these Gentiles/humans have taken over the millenniums to protect themselves from a people who consider them less than human, and free game for ill-treatment and/or actual depredations?

    If the world was justified for what they visited upon the Nazis (at places like Dresden, and all Germans including women and children) for their arrogance and the treatment of others as less than human, then...

    ... would the Palestinians (and others) be justified in visiting such 'justice' upon 'the Jews' who treat them as less than human?

    if the Jews today are constantly lamenting their '2000 years of persecution', then if the Gentiles are indeed human, and the Jews of antiquity never considered them so, then doesn't that explain, (even justify!) what the Gentiles did in expelling an endemically and intractably hostile people from their midst? A people who didn't even consider their gracious hosts as even human? But rather were 'put here by god to serve the Jews'?

    I mean really.. how do you live among such people? What is the point of mutual understanding, when their starting place is that 'you're a beast who exists to serve us'?

    “and that perhaps it was these actions on the part of ‘the Jews’, that may have led to certain persecutions?”

    Perhaps this is also the explanation for the historical antipathy exhibited in Western Ukraine toward Jews. The fusion of this mindset with the appointment of Jews as administrators in this area (by Polish nobility in the 16th century) must have been a very potent combination.

    While the anti-semitic bias in this area has been established as incontrovertible fact, the basis for this bias has rarely been examined. Its as if it has sprung, full-grown from the heads of the Ukrainians. What little is readily available on this subject indicates an absolute dominance and concomitant exploitation of Ukrainian society by these Jewish administrators. Yet this is conspicuously absent from the popular historical narrative.

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    Hey hobo,

    While the anti-semitic bias in this area has been established as incontrovertible fact, the basis for this bias has rarely been examined.
     
    Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich

    Its as if it has sprung, full-grown from the heads of the Ukrainians
     
    not just the Ukrainians, who got to know the NKVD Jews during the Holodomor, but the Hungarians under Bela Kun, or the Poles who were introduced to the NKVD Jews at Katyn, or a thousand other places where anti-Semitism just pops up out of the blue because Gentiles are evil and don't know their place!

    The most famous anti-Semitism of course popped up in Germany for no reason at all!

    Just because Germany was betrayed at the end of WWI, and starved into a humiliating treaty that denied the German people their dignity and their possessions, and were forced to live under the boot of the very Jews who had betrayed them, and now lorded it over them and turned Berlin into one big brothel with all manor of starving German youths and children for the amusement of the world's perverts..

    Just because Germany had become a nation of humiliated slaves during the Weimar regime, and were mocked from their own (Jewish owed) institutions.. was certainly no reason for any Germans to forget their place, (put here by god to serve the Jews).

    But forget their place they did, didn't they!

    and now it's the Americans that are saying anti-Semitic things like 'America first', when we all know that America and Americans exist to serve Israel. So you're right, there is a diabolical persistence of the goyim to forget their place and give in to the evil in their beast-like non-soul, and again and again revert to anti-Semitism. This is why Germans in particular must be blended out of existence, because they are too often guilty of this evil, and too often forget the very reason they exist in the first place!

    If Ukrainians would simply remember why they exist, and for what purpose, then at least in that part of the world, anti-Semitism would cease to exist. But the goyim always revert, and that's why they have to be looted and controlled and dominated completely.

    Never Again!
  114. Rurik says: • Website
    @hobo
    “and that perhaps it was these actions on the part of ‘the Jews’, that may have led to certain persecutions?”

    Perhaps this is also the explanation for the historical antipathy exhibited in Western Ukraine toward Jews. The fusion of this mindset with the appointment of Jews as administrators in this area (by Polish nobility in the 16th century) must have been a very potent combination.

    While the anti-semitic bias in this area has been established as incontrovertible fact, the basis for this bias has rarely been examined. Its as if it has sprung, full-grown from the heads of the Ukrainians. What little is readily available on this subject indicates an absolute dominance and concomitant exploitation of Ukrainian society by these Jewish administrators. Yet this is conspicuously absent from the popular historical narrative.

    Hey hobo,

    While the anti-semitic bias in this area has been established as incontrovertible fact, the basis for this bias has rarely been examined.

    Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich

    Its as if it has sprung, full-grown from the heads of the Ukrainians

    not just the Ukrainians, who got to know the NKVD Jews during the Holodomor, but the Hungarians under Bela Kun, or the Poles who were introduced to the NKVD Jews at Katyn, or a thousand other places where anti-Semitism just pops up out of the blue because Gentiles are evil and don’t know their place!

    The most famous anti-Semitism of course popped up in Germany for no reason at all!

    Just because Germany was betrayed at the end of WWI, and starved into a humiliating treaty that denied the German people their dignity and their possessions, and were forced to live under the boot of the very Jews who had betrayed them, and now lorded it over them and turned Berlin into one big brothel with all manor of starving German youths and children for the amusement of the world’s perverts..

    Just because Germany had become a nation of humiliated slaves during the Weimar regime, and were mocked from their own (Jewish owed) institutions.. was certainly no reason for any Germans to forget their place, (put here by god to serve the Jews).

    But forget their place they did, didn’t they!

    and now it’s the Americans that are saying anti-Semitic things like ‘America first’, when we all know that America and Americans exist to serve Israel. So you’re right, there is a diabolical persistence of the goyim to forget their place and give in to the evil in their beast-like non-soul, and again and again revert to anti-Semitism. This is why Germans in particular must be blended out of existence, because they are too often guilty of this evil, and too often forget the very reason they exist in the first place!

    If Ukrainians would simply remember why they exist, and for what purpose, then at least in that part of the world, anti-Semitism would cease to exist. But the goyim always revert, and that’s why they have to be looted and controlled and dominated completely.

    Never Again!

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  115. Talha says:
    @attilathehen
    Hey Talha. Like I said before, it's a coming. Trump is working on this. I can only do so much. I don't work for the government.

    You and your low IQ wife, offspring will be gone. Back to that glorious average IQ 84 country called Pakistan.

    Hey Da Hen,

    it’s a coming

    I know! Can you believe it??!!

    Trump is working on this.

    I don’t know sis-bro, last time I heard, homeboy was doing the sword dance with the Saudis and apparently getting lessons on the Sunnah way to eat and drink from the king:

    I’d check the guy’s birth certificate because you know; one taqiyya-Muzzie as president, shame on us – two taqiyyah-Muzzies in office, shame on you!

    You should ask him publicly if he is Muslim. If he denies it, you’ll know that he is because they are supposed to lie about that stuff.

    I don’t work for the government.

    Dang, that totally sucks – I was hoping you could delay the expulsion by at least two years so my teenage daughter can finish high school. You know how teenagers are; I’ll have to hear, “Daaad – but I just made new friends!!!” all the way to Jinnah International – totally sucks.

    You and your low IQ wife, offspring will be gone.

    Yeah – once all of us retarted colored people (aka. “The Man”) are no longer keeping the White Man down – there is no limit to what he will be able to achieve. It will be glorious; no more divorces, end to obesity…total awesomeness! But I think that MAGA is too vague of a slogan – nobody knows what that means exactly. I suggest something more real, visceral that can be experienced – how about:
    “Imagine Hungary, But Better!”

    Peace.

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    Hey Talha, Talha, Talha. "Logic" like yours is to be expected from a deep jealousy of the West.

    As I told Daniel Chieh, a Chinese commentator, the West will solve its problems. You will be back in Pakistan to try and deal with the problems caused by being Asian (which cannot be overcome) and the continuing degeneracy of a race/religion that practices inbreeding.

    Your black Egyptian Muslim brother-in-law, who will also go back, can help you in making Pakistan great again.
  116. You ask the wrong questions.
    Ask people and groups about their beliefs. Many have beliefs that they say in private and not in public.
    Such questions are answered Yes or No.
    Do not let language games interfere.
    No semantic nonsense.
    Just answers.

    Do Jews view non-Jews as not human, or as cattle or something else? Can non-Jews believe them if they lie?
    Do Muslims view non-Muslims as dirty, subject to punishment and tax, or to death?
    Do Christians view non-Christians as eternally damned?

    You see the ideas to eliminate false discussions.

    Next you ask tougher questions about what each group believes about their group and about other groups. Make them answer brief and honest not deflection.

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  117. @NoseytheDuke
    You are just plain rude, and low class. Talha goes out of his way to be polite to everyone here and you even have the gall to insult his wife, the mother of his children? I have little doubt that they each have a greater IQ than you, not to mention a lot more class too.

    Your limited understanding of Christianity merely illustrates your enormous limitations.

    Are you really Christian? Or Jewish, Asian, involved with either? Another one who can’t deal with the ultimate objective reality, IQ? I am stating facts. Talha is a Pakistani Muslim. He comes from a country with an average IQ of 84. He is brighter, in their talented 10%. But he is not from the West. He is a Muslim (a Christian heresy) and Asian (not European/Caucasian). His wife converted to Islam, another sign of degeneracy. These are the facts about Talha.

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  118. @Talha
    Hey Da Hen,

    it’s a coming
     
    I know! Can you believe it??!!

    Trump is working on this.
     
    I don't know sis-bro, last time I heard, homeboy was doing the sword dance with the Saudis and apparently getting lessons on the Sunnah way to eat and drink from the king:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1czdSurPI4

    I'd check the guy's birth certificate because you know; one taqiyya-Muzzie as president, shame on us - two taqiyyah-Muzzies in office, shame on you!

    You should ask him publicly if he is Muslim. If he denies it, you'll know that he is because they are supposed to lie about that stuff.

    I don’t work for the government.
     
    Dang, that totally sucks - I was hoping you could delay the expulsion by at least two years so my teenage daughter can finish high school. You know how teenagers are; I'll have to hear, "Daaad - but I just made new friends!!!" all the way to Jinnah International - totally sucks.

    You and your low IQ wife, offspring will be gone.
     
    Yeah - once all of us retarted colored people (aka. "The Man") are no longer keeping the White Man down - there is no limit to what he will be able to achieve. It will be glorious; no more divorces, end to obesity...total awesomeness! But I think that MAGA is too vague of a slogan - nobody knows what that means exactly. I suggest something more real, visceral that can be experienced - how about:
    "Imagine Hungary, But Better!"

    Peace.

    Hey Talha, Talha, Talha. “Logic” like yours is to be expected from a deep jealousy of the West.

    As I told Daniel Chieh, a Chinese commentator, the West will solve its problems. You will be back in Pakistan to try and deal with the problems caused by being Asian (which cannot be overcome) and the continuing degeneracy of a race/religion that practices inbreeding.

    Your black Egyptian Muslim brother-in-law, who will also go back, can help you in making Pakistan great again.

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    Hey Da Hen,

    the West will solve its problems
     
    I know! I can't wait! Then you guys can come over and teach us how to comb our hair and cut our toe nails.

    Help us Obi White Kenobi! You are our only hope!!!

    continuing degeneracy of a race/religion that practices inbreeding
     
    Back in Pakistan, I can keep my convert wife AND marry my first cousin(s) - hubba, hubba! Deep jealousy of the West indeed!

    Your black Egyptian Muslim brother-in-law, who will also go back, can help you in making Pakistan great again.
     
    Why would you ship him to Pakistan?

    Peace.
    , @annamaria
    attilathehen, what kind of childhood trauma have you suffered to become so troubled?
    Your posts for Talha, who is cultured and informed, are ugly in all respects. If you are not aware of the world history and of the roots of western civilization, please focus your efforts on educating yourself. This forum could be appropriate for some very bright adolescents, but not for the manners & knowledge-challenged ones.
  119. Talha says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    You are just plain rude, and low class. Talha goes out of his way to be polite to everyone here and you even have the gall to insult his wife, the mother of his children? I have little doubt that they each have a greater IQ than you, not to mention a lot more class too.

    Your limited understanding of Christianity merely illustrates your enormous limitations.

    Are you…

    LOOL!!! Did I call it or what??!!

    sign of degeneracy

    ROTFL!!! Just be glad you didn’t get hit in the eye with a “cuck” – consider yourself lucky.

    Long live Da Hen!!! Long may she post!!!

    Peace.

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    It takes the name of a barbarian, it presents itself as a barbarian so surely it's a ...duck?

    There is certainly the appearance of a lack of understanding about what some refer to as Christian values and what I prefer to call basic decency. annamaria probably comes very close, as usual, with the above comment suggesting some sort of childhood trauma, in which case my sympathies are offered and I hope help is sought.

    Best wishes to you, Talha.
  120. Talha says:
    @attilathehen
    Hey Talha, Talha, Talha. "Logic" like yours is to be expected from a deep jealousy of the West.

    As I told Daniel Chieh, a Chinese commentator, the West will solve its problems. You will be back in Pakistan to try and deal with the problems caused by being Asian (which cannot be overcome) and the continuing degeneracy of a race/religion that practices inbreeding.

    Your black Egyptian Muslim brother-in-law, who will also go back, can help you in making Pakistan great again.

    Hey Da Hen,

    the West will solve its problems

    I know! I can’t wait! Then you guys can come over and teach us how to comb our hair and cut our toe nails.

    Help us Obi White Kenobi! You are our only hope!!!

    continuing degeneracy of a race/religion that practices inbreeding

    Back in Pakistan, I can keep my convert wife AND marry my first cousin(s) – hubba, hubba! Deep jealousy of the West indeed!

    Your black Egyptian Muslim brother-in-law, who will also go back, can help you in making Pakistan great again.

    Why would you ship him to Pakistan?

    Peace.

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    Hey Talha, please see my comment to annamaria.

    You're black/Egyptian/Muslim brother in law goes to Pakistan with you because Muslims believe in universal brotherhood. Hence the black miscegenation Islam brought to Northern Africa, which resulted in the destruction of the Caucasian peoples.

    I don't know why you would have a problem with brother in law accompanying you to Pakistan.
  121. Art says:
    @attilathehen
    Hey Talha. Like I said before, it's a coming. Trump is working on this. I can only do so much. I don't work for the government.

    You and your low IQ wife, offspring will be gone. Back to that glorious average IQ 84 country called Pakistan.

    Hey Talha. Like I said before, it’s a coming. Trump is working on this. I can only do so much. I don’t work for the government.

    You and your low IQ wife, offspring will be gone. Back to that glorious average IQ 84 country called Pakistan.

    Hey Johnny – Johnny Hagee – is that you – are you working on next Sunday’s sermon?

    Does your lovely wife want a new quarter million-dollar Mercedes?

    Go to work Johnny – do it again – work’em up, pump the fear, and pass the collection plate!

    Your bait and switch routine is still working – wrap yourself in Jesus – but hook them on old testament tribal hate.

    Peace — Art

    p.s. Say Johnny – it would do your chances of not going to hell much good, if you would open the new testament and find Jesus’ loving philosophy for living.

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  122. @jacques sheete

    All these references are soundly trashed and refuted by a plethora of Jewish sites robustly defending Talmud and later texts. The defenders of Jewish faith say that the quotes mean something completely different, they are taken out of context and the translation is wrong anyway.
     
    This is typical and another side of it is that the smears against goyim live on and on

    ad infinitum.
     
    One that especially wrankles me is the still current charge of "anti-Semitism" against Charles Lindbergh the pilot. It's utterly false as are some other particularly nasty charges against the man.

    Also, they can deny it all they want because one doesn't have to go to ancient texts to find examples of anti-Goyism. All we have to do is look at how the State of Israel treats others and what some modern self appointed rabbis have to say about us. One could also read some of the comments by the hasbara brigade right here on UNZ.

    "Goyim [non-Jews] were born only to serve us." Explaining why God allowed non-Jews long lives, he added: "Imagine that your donkey would die, you’d lose your income. [The donkey] is your servant. … That’s why he [the gentile] gets a long life, to work well for the Jew."
    This summer, Yosef Elitzur and Yitzhak Shapira, who head an influential seminary in the West Bank settlement of Yitzhar, published The King’s Torah, a 230-page guide to how Jews should treat non-Jews.
    The two rabbis concluded that Jews were obligated to kill anyone who posed a danger, immediate or potential, to the Jewish people, and implied that all Palestinians were to be considered a threat. On these grounds, the pair justified killing Palestinian civilians and even their babies.

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2010/12/10/israel-s-racist-rabbis/print
     
    Lucky for the goyim that Jews have always been riven by factionalism, (read Josephus), and not all think that way.

    “All we have to do is look at how the State of Israel treats others…”

    All we have to do is look at how the State of Israel treats its Others…

    …In the vernacular.

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  123. nickels says:

    Michael Hoffman has a number of good books and videos on how to see through the subterfuge of ‘loopholes’, ‘decoy texts’ and the like.

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  124. annamaria says:
    @attilathehen
    Hey Talha, Talha, Talha. "Logic" like yours is to be expected from a deep jealousy of the West.

    As I told Daniel Chieh, a Chinese commentator, the West will solve its problems. You will be back in Pakistan to try and deal with the problems caused by being Asian (which cannot be overcome) and the continuing degeneracy of a race/religion that practices inbreeding.

    Your black Egyptian Muslim brother-in-law, who will also go back, can help you in making Pakistan great again.

    attilathehen, what kind of childhood trauma have you suffered to become so troubled?
    Your posts for Talha, who is cultured and informed, are ugly in all respects. If you are not aware of the world history and of the roots of western civilization, please focus your efforts on educating yourself. This forum could be appropriate for some very bright adolescents, but not for the manners & knowledge-challenged ones.

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    • Replies: @attilathehen
    I've seen some of your comments. Just need to clarify a couple of things. Aren't you a Roman Catholic? If yes, do you accept black/Asian priests-popes? If yes, what is your interest in the West?

    I complimented Talha. I said he was a bright fellow, the "talented 10%" of Pakis. But he is still an inferior male of the species. He is inferior to a Caucasian woman. Caucasians are first, then Asians, blacks are last.

    Are you not aware that that roots and western civilization are European/Caucasian/Christian/pagan? Blacks/Asians/Jews had nothing to do with the West.

    Do you know about IQ studies? Caucasians are first, Asians second, blacks last.

    I deal with facts and you ask me about my "emotions and traumas." The article was about Jews/non-Jews. Jews are a non-kosher red herring. The starting point of any conversation when dealing with people is IQ. Racial differences will be noticed from that. Jews are not white and do not belong in the West. Whether Jews think gentiles are human or not is not important. What is important is for the West to repatriate people that don't belong here. Talha is a perfect example of such a type.

  125. @Talha

    Are you...
     
    LOOL!!! Did I call it or what??!!

    sign of degeneracy
     
    ROTFL!!! Just be glad you didn't get hit in the eye with a "cuck" - consider yourself lucky.

    Long live Da Hen!!! Long may she post!!!

    Peace.

    It takes the name of a barbarian, it presents itself as a barbarian so surely it’s a …duck?

    There is certainly the appearance of a lack of understanding about what some refer to as Christian values and what I prefer to call basic decency. annamaria probably comes very close, as usual, with the above comment suggesting some sort of childhood trauma, in which case my sympathies are offered and I hope help is sought.

    Best wishes to you, Talha.

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    • Replies: @Talha
    Hey NtD,

    You know, a friend who has been observing the thread (and is into knowing personality types and such) has noticed something is just off about this persona. He mentioned that he feels there is something on the autistic spectrum going on. I don't mention that as an insult, just a kind of third party evaluation. The internet is such a weird place - I may be a lesbian midget from Thailand that just knows a lot about Islam and lives vicariously through this alter ego - how does one verify?

    Now if my friend is right, then the way I've been approaching this person is just not right. It's probably best to just disengage and ignore - something I should have done a while back.

    Peace and best to you and yours as well.

    , @attilathehen
    Ntd: You didn't answer my questions. You mentioned something about a duck...but I think I hear some chicken squawking from you.

    My questions were easy to answer. Please see my response to annamaria.
  126. Talha says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    It takes the name of a barbarian, it presents itself as a barbarian so surely it's a ...duck?

    There is certainly the appearance of a lack of understanding about what some refer to as Christian values and what I prefer to call basic decency. annamaria probably comes very close, as usual, with the above comment suggesting some sort of childhood trauma, in which case my sympathies are offered and I hope help is sought.

    Best wishes to you, Talha.

    Hey NtD,

    You know, a friend who has been observing the thread (and is into knowing personality types and such) has noticed something is just off about this persona. He mentioned that he feels there is something on the autistic spectrum going on. I don’t mention that as an insult, just a kind of third party evaluation. The internet is such a weird place – I may be a lesbian midget from Thailand that just knows a lot about Islam and lives vicariously through this alter ego – how does one verify?

    Now if my friend is right, then the way I’ve been approaching this person is just not right. It’s probably best to just disengage and ignore – something I should have done a while back.

    Peace and best to you and yours as well.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    I almost certainly know much less than your friend about personality and its types; to me ATH seems simply to be one of the more amusing troll accounts on this website. Her(?) line is pretty simple, though effective; as with several other commenters here I feel I could write it myself if I had any desire to.

    PS. How many diversity points does a Muslim lesbian Thai midget get? What if she's also a mulatto lesbian Muslim (part) Thai midget?
  127. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Talha
    Hey NtD,

    You know, a friend who has been observing the thread (and is into knowing personality types and such) has noticed something is just off about this persona. He mentioned that he feels there is something on the autistic spectrum going on. I don't mention that as an insult, just a kind of third party evaluation. The internet is such a weird place - I may be a lesbian midget from Thailand that just knows a lot about Islam and lives vicariously through this alter ego - how does one verify?

    Now if my friend is right, then the way I've been approaching this person is just not right. It's probably best to just disengage and ignore - something I should have done a while back.

    Peace and best to you and yours as well.

    I almost certainly know much less than your friend about personality and its types; to me ATH seems simply to be one of the more amusing troll accounts on this website. Her(?) line is pretty simple, though effective; as with several other commenters here I feel I could write it myself if I had any desire to.

    PS. How many diversity points does a Muslim lesbian Thai midget get? What if she’s also a mulatto lesbian Muslim (part) Thai midget?

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    • Replies: @Talha
    I don't know about the points - Mr. Sailer seems to be the expert on that. I do know that if my "wife" was a transgendered Swedish mulatto bisexual and we were in an open marriage it would be about the equivalent of running a credit score of 780-800.

    Peace.
    , @attilathehen
    Hi Anon. I've seen some of your comments too. Amusing, yes, I'm considered charming in real life too.

    Yes, my line is simple, but direct and logical. What I've noticed is that the most dangerous and cowardly male is the Caucasian/Christian RCC-Zioevangizer male. When I confront them with logic and facts about IQ, how this relates to races, how this affects religious beliefs and their ability to change human nature, heads explode and they start flapping around like headless chickens.

    You said you could write comments like mine if you really wanted to do so. But you won't, because your are a cuck (if you are a Caucasian/Christian RCC-Zioevangizer male).
  128. Talha says:
    @Anon
    I almost certainly know much less than your friend about personality and its types; to me ATH seems simply to be one of the more amusing troll accounts on this website. Her(?) line is pretty simple, though effective; as with several other commenters here I feel I could write it myself if I had any desire to.

    PS. How many diversity points does a Muslim lesbian Thai midget get? What if she's also a mulatto lesbian Muslim (part) Thai midget?

    I don’t know about the points – Mr. Sailer seems to be the expert on that. I do know that if my “wife” was a transgendered Swedish mulatto bisexual and we were in an open marriage it would be about the equivalent of running a credit score of 780-800.

    Peace.

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  129. @annamaria
    attilathehen, what kind of childhood trauma have you suffered to become so troubled?
    Your posts for Talha, who is cultured and informed, are ugly in all respects. If you are not aware of the world history and of the roots of western civilization, please focus your efforts on educating yourself. This forum could be appropriate for some very bright adolescents, but not for the manners & knowledge-challenged ones.

    I’ve seen some of your comments. Just need to clarify a couple of things. Aren’t you a Roman Catholic? If yes, do you accept black/Asian priests-popes? If yes, what is your interest in the West?

    I complimented Talha. I said he was a bright fellow, the “talented 10%” of Pakis. But he is still an inferior male of the species. He is inferior to a Caucasian woman. Caucasians are first, then Asians, blacks are last.

    Are you not aware that that roots and western civilization are European/Caucasian/Christian/pagan? Blacks/Asians/Jews had nothing to do with the West.

    Do you know about IQ studies? Caucasians are first, Asians second, blacks last.

    I deal with facts and you ask me about my “emotions and traumas.” The article was about Jews/non-Jews. Jews are a non-kosher red herring. The starting point of any conversation when dealing with people is IQ. Racial differences will be noticed from that. Jews are not white and do not belong in the West. Whether Jews think gentiles are human or not is not important. What is important is for the West to repatriate people that don’t belong here. Talha is a perfect example of such a type.

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    What a remarkable post of yours. You have a very playful nickname, "attilathehen" - is this s sign of you treating this forum playfully as well?
    Two observations re your post:
    1. Your way/style of reasoning is not European
    2. Perhaps you need to do 23andMe (https://www.23andme.com) to have a deeper understanding of who you are
    As for your Qs: I am, most likely, whiter than you are, and I am not interested in an earthly administration for the "omnipotent Creator." It was not for nothing that Luther gave his colorful definitions for the RCC. Anabaptists are, perhaps, the most honest Christians.
    , @Art
    I deal with facts and you ask me about my “emotions and traumas.” ... .... ... The starting point of any conversation when dealing with people is IQ.

    Sorry, but you do not deal in the right facts. It is not base IQ that matters – it is base culture that matters most. The useful nature of knowledge matters more than base IQ smarts. Chinese culture 2,000 years ago was very advanced, then it died, it stopped advancing – the reason was because of its wrongheaded culture – its culture did not value knowledge – it valued genetics as you wrongly do. The Indian culture the same – though it has many brilliant people - it values biological cast over knowledge.

    What matters most is what knowledge we use in making our decisions – not how biologically smart we are. The Jews for all their smarts, lose argument after argument because they use outdated old world dictates. They can only win by coercing others.

    Collages are full of brainy professors who propagate the wrong facts.

    Useful culturally generated knowledge trumps genetics – period.

    Your persistent oppressive comments are not winning the day.

    Being ethical and honest and good does not require a rocket science biological mentality. That must be our goal – good things will naturally follow.

    Peace --- Art
  130. @NoseytheDuke
    It takes the name of a barbarian, it presents itself as a barbarian so surely it's a ...duck?

    There is certainly the appearance of a lack of understanding about what some refer to as Christian values and what I prefer to call basic decency. annamaria probably comes very close, as usual, with the above comment suggesting some sort of childhood trauma, in which case my sympathies are offered and I hope help is sought.

    Best wishes to you, Talha.

    Ntd: You didn’t answer my questions. You mentioned something about a duck…but I think I hear some chicken squawking from you.

    My questions were easy to answer. Please see my response to annamaria.

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    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
    I didn't answer your questions because they are silly, and you wouldn't know what it is to be a Christian anyway, which is obvious by your rude and ignorant comments. Just to humour you, my answer is no to all of them.

    Your "facts" are nothing more than your own inventions and while you make such sweeping statements about the importance of IQ, at the same time you reveal the paucity of your own.

    Besides, it's how one uses what one has that really counts. As Momma Gump said, "Stupid is as stupid does". Try to be a nicer person, you'll be happier.
  131. @Anon
    I almost certainly know much less than your friend about personality and its types; to me ATH seems simply to be one of the more amusing troll accounts on this website. Her(?) line is pretty simple, though effective; as with several other commenters here I feel I could write it myself if I had any desire to.

    PS. How many diversity points does a Muslim lesbian Thai midget get? What if she's also a mulatto lesbian Muslim (part) Thai midget?

    Hi Anon. I’ve seen some of your comments too. Amusing, yes, I’m considered charming in real life too.

    Yes, my line is simple, but direct and logical. What I’ve noticed is that the most dangerous and cowardly male is the Caucasian/Christian RCC-Zioevangizer male. When I confront them with logic and facts about IQ, how this relates to races, how this affects religious beliefs and their ability to change human nature, heads explode and they start flapping around like headless chickens.

    You said you could write comments like mine if you really wanted to do so. But you won’t, because your are a cuck (if you are a Caucasian/Christian RCC-Zioevangizer male).

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  132. @Talha
    Hey Da Hen,

    the West will solve its problems
     
    I know! I can't wait! Then you guys can come over and teach us how to comb our hair and cut our toe nails.

    Help us Obi White Kenobi! You are our only hope!!!

    continuing degeneracy of a race/religion that practices inbreeding
     
    Back in Pakistan, I can keep my convert wife AND marry my first cousin(s) - hubba, hubba! Deep jealousy of the West indeed!

    Your black Egyptian Muslim brother-in-law, who will also go back, can help you in making Pakistan great again.
     
    Why would you ship him to Pakistan?

    Peace.

    Hey Talha, please see my comment to annamaria.

    You’re black/Egyptian/Muslim brother in law goes to Pakistan with you because Muslims believe in universal brotherhood. Hence the black miscegenation Islam brought to Northern Africa, which resulted in the destruction of the Caucasian peoples.

    I don’t know why you would have a problem with brother in law accompanying you to Pakistan.

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    Hey Da Hen,

    I'd like to press "reset" on this whole interaction- it's not producing anything of worth and would probably fall under the category of "laghw" (useless speech) which I have been taught to avoid. If it makes you feel better about yourself or this confusing world to insult me - that's fine, glad I can serve as some catharsis for you. But don't expect a reply unless you want to discuss something substantial.

    And pardon is sought for any offense I may have given in a moment of zeal.

    Peace.
  133. @attilathehen
    Ntd: You didn't answer my questions. You mentioned something about a duck...but I think I hear some chicken squawking from you.

    My questions were easy to answer. Please see my response to annamaria.

    I didn’t answer your questions because they are silly, and you wouldn’t know what it is to be a Christian anyway, which is obvious by your rude and ignorant comments. Just to humour you, my answer is no to all of them.

    Your “facts” are nothing more than your own inventions and while you make such sweeping statements about the importance of IQ, at the same time you reveal the paucity of your own.

    Besides, it’s how one uses what one has that really counts. As Momma Gump said, “Stupid is as stupid does”. Try to be a nicer person, you’ll be happier.

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    • Replies: @attilathehen
    So, you're not a Christian. Just some generic non-religious, Caucasian/white person. What do you use for judging people? What are your standards? What is your interest in the West? You strike me as a libertarian.
  134. annamaria says:
    @attilathehen
    I've seen some of your comments. Just need to clarify a couple of things. Aren't you a Roman Catholic? If yes, do you accept black/Asian priests-popes? If yes, what is your interest in the West?

    I complimented Talha. I said he was a bright fellow, the "talented 10%" of Pakis. But he is still an inferior male of the species. He is inferior to a Caucasian woman. Caucasians are first, then Asians, blacks are last.

    Are you not aware that that roots and western civilization are European/Caucasian/Christian/pagan? Blacks/Asians/Jews had nothing to do with the West.

    Do you know about IQ studies? Caucasians are first, Asians second, blacks last.

    I deal with facts and you ask me about my "emotions and traumas." The article was about Jews/non-Jews. Jews are a non-kosher red herring. The starting point of any conversation when dealing with people is IQ. Racial differences will be noticed from that. Jews are not white and do not belong in the West. Whether Jews think gentiles are human or not is not important. What is important is for the West to repatriate people that don't belong here. Talha is a perfect example of such a type.

    What a remarkable post of yours. You have a very playful nickname, “attilathehen” – is this s sign of you treating this forum playfully as well?
    Two observations re your post:
    1. Your way/style of reasoning is not European
    2. Perhaps you need to do 23andMe (https://www.23andme.com) to have a deeper understanding of who you are
    As for your Qs: I am, most likely, whiter than you are, and I am not interested in an earthly administration for the “omnipotent Creator.” It was not for nothing that Luther gave his colorful definitions for the RCC. Anabaptists are, perhaps, the most honest Christians.

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    annamaria, again you're thinking emotionally. My starting point is IQ/evolution. Do you not believe that IQ is an indicator of the competency of a person?

    It seems you are not RCC. But if you believe in the "universal church," regardless of denomination, that is a problem.

    If you believe Talha (an Asian/Muslim) is equal to a Caucasian/Western woman, that is a problem.

    And this leads to the most important question, what is your interest in the West?
  135. Talha says:
    @attilathehen
    Hey Talha, please see my comment to annamaria.

    You're black/Egyptian/Muslim brother in law goes to Pakistan with you because Muslims believe in universal brotherhood. Hence the black miscegenation Islam brought to Northern Africa, which resulted in the destruction of the Caucasian peoples.

    I don't know why you would have a problem with brother in law accompanying you to Pakistan.

    Hey Da Hen,

    I’d like to press “reset” on this whole interaction- it’s not producing anything of worth and would probably fall under the category of “laghw” (useless speech) which I have been taught to avoid. If it makes you feel better about yourself or this confusing world to insult me – that’s fine, glad I can serve as some catharsis for you. But don’t expect a reply unless you want to discuss something substantial.

    And pardon is sought for any offense I may have given in a moment of zeal.

    Peace.

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    • Replies: @utu
    Your choice of company, frequently demonstrated by you on these pages, indicates either a poor judgement or some other unknown to me motives. Excrements stink even more when stirred up and usually are toxic.
    , @attilathehen
    Hey Talha. I'm not insulting you. I'm stating facts. First you said you are Pakistani. The average IQ in Pakistan is 84. I did say you are in the talented 10%. You said you are a Muslim. As a Christian, Islam is a Christian heresy because of what the Koran says about Jesus. You are a heretical enemy. Again, I type these words with no malice, I am stating facts.

    I give you credit for defending yourself, even though biologically and theologically you are lower caste and an infidel. And you have nothing to do with the West.

    But big picture, what I find most interesting are the comments from Caucasian/European/Christian/non-religious commentators who come to your defense (and attack me.) I remember in another article a commentator who left Christianity asked you how you found in Islam. I commented to him what caused him to turn into a cuck that he could not defend Christianity and the West.

    Even starting with the most objective truth, IQ and its relation to racial differences, makes these commentators froth at the mouth. Fascinating. Peace.
  136. Sam J. says:
    @ONETRIBE
    Imagine, if you could, an article which debated, just as this one does, whether or not Jews should be considered human, or not!

    Would it ever be published?

    If it (by some miracle) were to be published, what would the uproar look like?

    The ongoing disparity between what "jews" can discuss, and what everybody else can discuss is at ridiculous inequity, and despite the systematic, coordinated propaganda in the so-called "western first world liberal democracies", enabling the seminal discrepancy in rights and responsibilities, gentiles are starting to notice, though many, so bombarded at a waking-consciousness level, know only at a subconscious level.

    The energy behind this global level 'dissonance' is very, very significant, and we have entered an era, during which this stored energy may be ignited.
    All will be susceptible to such a catastrophe when it happens, for it is not a matter (any longer), of if it will happen under the intractable sociopathic policies of global zionism, which apparently has no 'off' switch.

    This article, whether or not written/submitted/published in good faith is a damning evidence supporting the existence of a wildly distorted perception, which fosters the monstrous inequity of rights v. responsibilities ratio, favouring adherents to zionist objectives.

    Please see the excellent article by John Pilger, "Palestine is still the issue", also appearing at UNZ (here is the John Pilger site link): http://johnpilger.com/articles/palestine-is-still-the-issue

    Any affiliation which promotes the obvious ridiculous supernatural superstitious principles of "chosen people" under a 'supreme' being needs to be outlawed in civil society, including, but certainly not limited to this affiliation.

    The myth of racial commonality by this affiliation is farcically fantastic.

    Even the suggestion that genetic markers capable of tracing heredity having any kind of a correlation to physical and/or behavioural attributes is ridiculously false.

    Genetic markers capable of tracing heredity are limited to Y - chromosome typology (male only) tracing patrilineage (direct male lineage) heritage, and mitochondrial DNA, tracing matrilineal (direct female lineage) heritage.

    Race may only be VALIDLY described by a pairing of these two traceable genetic traits (for men) and the only mitochondrial DNA for women.

    Most self-described jews in the world lack either patrilineage or matrilineal genetic markings of people originating in the middle east, let alone ANY kind of meaningful genetic similarity differentiating them from the rest of the people who do not thus describe themselves.

    “…Most self-described jews in the world lack either patrilineage or matrilineal genetic markings of people originating in the middle east, let alone ANY kind of meaningful genetic similarity differentiating them from the rest of the people who do not thus describe themselves…”

    We know the Jews use genetic test to determine who’s a Jew to let them into Israel. If what you say is true then…what are they measuring?

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    That's a good question, what are the measuring?

    Since there is no such thing as genetic "jewishness" (or anything else for that matter)
  137. anon says: • Disclaimer

    That leading Democratic Party foreign policy officials are willing to form new Beltway advocacy groups in collaboration with Bill Kristol, Mike Rogers, and Mike Chertoff, join arms with those who caused the invasion of Iraq and tried to launch a bombing campaign against Tehran, has repercussions that will easily survive the Trump presidency
    most beloved, and most cited pundits[ of Democratic Party ] is the same neocon who wrote George W. Bush’s oppressive, bullying and deceitful speeches in 2002 and 2003 about Iraq and the war on terror, and who has churned out some of the most hateful, inflammatory rhetoric over the last decade about Palestinians, immigrants, and Muslims. That Bush propagandist, David Frum, is regularly feted on MSNBC’s liberal programs,
    Particularly after his recent argument with Tucker Carlson over Russia, Democrats have practically canonized Max Boot, who has literally cheered for every possible war over the two past decades and, in 2013, wrote a column titled “No Need to Repent for Support of Iraq War.” It is now common to see Democratic pundits and office holders even favorably citing and praising Bill Kristol himself.

    https://theintercept.com/2017/07/17/with-new-d-c-policy-group-dems-continue-to-rehabilitate-and-unify-with-bush-era-neocons/

    Here is the example of how these people treat the non Jews as inhuman – intellectually and as well as physically.

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  138. Art says:
    @attilathehen
    I've seen some of your comments. Just need to clarify a couple of things. Aren't you a Roman Catholic? If yes, do you accept black/Asian priests-popes? If yes, what is your interest in the West?

    I complimented Talha. I said he was a bright fellow, the "talented 10%" of Pakis. But he is still an inferior male of the species. He is inferior to a Caucasian woman. Caucasians are first, then Asians, blacks are last.

    Are you not aware that that roots and western civilization are European/Caucasian/Christian/pagan? Blacks/Asians/Jews had nothing to do with the West.

    Do you know about IQ studies? Caucasians are first, Asians second, blacks last.

    I deal with facts and you ask me about my "emotions and traumas." The article was about Jews/non-Jews. Jews are a non-kosher red herring. The starting point of any conversation when dealing with people is IQ. Racial differences will be noticed from that. Jews are not white and do not belong in the West. Whether Jews think gentiles are human or not is not important. What is important is for the West to repatriate people that don't belong here. Talha is a perfect example of such a type.

    I deal with facts and you ask me about my “emotions and traumas.” … …. … The starting point of any conversation when dealing with people is IQ.

    Sorry, but you do not deal in the right facts. It is not base IQ that matters – it is base culture that matters most. The useful nature of knowledge matters more than base IQ smarts. Chinese culture 2,000 years ago was very advanced, then it died, it stopped advancing – the reason was because of its wrongheaded culture – its culture did not value knowledge – it valued genetics as you wrongly do. The Indian culture the same – though it has many brilliant people – it values biological cast over knowledge.

    What matters most is what knowledge we use in making our decisions – not how biologically smart we are. The Jews for all their smarts, lose argument after argument because they use outdated old world dictates. They can only win by coercing others.

    Collages are full of brainy professors who propagate the wrong facts.

    Useful culturally generated knowledge trumps genetics – period.

    Your persistent oppressive comments are not winning the day.

    Being ethical and honest and good does not require a rocket science biological mentality. That must be our goal – good things will naturally follow.

    Peace — Art

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    Art, you're getting hysterical, calm down.

    "Useful culturally generated knowledge trumps genetics – period."

    Which country is better: RCC Philippines or Shinto/Buddhist Japan?

    RCC El Salvador or WASP USA?

    RCC Haiti or Protestant Iceland?

    When you answer these, we can, hopefully, have a rational discussion. I'll let you do the research on their respective IQs.

  139. utu says:
    @Talha
    Hey Da Hen,

    I'd like to press "reset" on this whole interaction- it's not producing anything of worth and would probably fall under the category of "laghw" (useless speech) which I have been taught to avoid. If it makes you feel better about yourself or this confusing world to insult me - that's fine, glad I can serve as some catharsis for you. But don't expect a reply unless you want to discuss something substantial.

    And pardon is sought for any offense I may have given in a moment of zeal.

    Peace.

    Your choice of company, frequently demonstrated by you on these pages, indicates either a poor judgement or some other unknown to me motives. Excrements stink even more when stirred up and usually are toxic.

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  140. Talha says:

    Hey utu,

    Yeah – I gotta stop getting dragged into these kinds of interactions. No use to anybody, including myself.

    Next time I get into one, please feel free to remind me.

    Peace.

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  141. @annamaria
    What a remarkable post of yours. You have a very playful nickname, "attilathehen" - is this s sign of you treating this forum playfully as well?
    Two observations re your post:
    1. Your way/style of reasoning is not European
    2. Perhaps you need to do 23andMe (https://www.23andme.com) to have a deeper understanding of who you are
    As for your Qs: I am, most likely, whiter than you are, and I am not interested in an earthly administration for the "omnipotent Creator." It was not for nothing that Luther gave his colorful definitions for the RCC. Anabaptists are, perhaps, the most honest Christians.

    annamaria, again you’re thinking emotionally. My starting point is IQ/evolution. Do you not believe that IQ is an indicator of the competency of a person?

    It seems you are not RCC. But if you believe in the “universal church,” regardless of denomination, that is a problem.

    If you believe Talha (an Asian/Muslim) is equal to a Caucasian/Western woman, that is a problem.

    And this leads to the most important question, what is your interest in the West?

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    "And this leads to the most important question, what is your interest in the West?"

    You are pretending to represent the West. This is a very unconvincing pretense.

  142. @NoseytheDuke
    I didn't answer your questions because they are silly, and you wouldn't know what it is to be a Christian anyway, which is obvious by your rude and ignorant comments. Just to humour you, my answer is no to all of them.

    Your "facts" are nothing more than your own inventions and while you make such sweeping statements about the importance of IQ, at the same time you reveal the paucity of your own.

    Besides, it's how one uses what one has that really counts. As Momma Gump said, "Stupid is as stupid does". Try to be a nicer person, you'll be happier.

    So, you’re not a Christian. Just some generic non-religious, Caucasian/white person. What do you use for judging people? What are your standards? What is your interest in the West? You strike me as a libertarian.

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  143. @Talha
    Hey Da Hen,

    I'd like to press "reset" on this whole interaction- it's not producing anything of worth and would probably fall under the category of "laghw" (useless speech) which I have been taught to avoid. If it makes you feel better about yourself or this confusing world to insult me - that's fine, glad I can serve as some catharsis for you. But don't expect a reply unless you want to discuss something substantial.

    And pardon is sought for any offense I may have given in a moment of zeal.

    Peace.

    Hey Talha. I’m not insulting you. I’m stating facts. First you said you are Pakistani. The average IQ in Pakistan is 84. I did say you are in the talented 10%. You said you are a Muslim. As a Christian, Islam is a Christian heresy because of what the Koran says about Jesus. You are a heretical enemy. Again, I type these words with no malice, I am stating facts.

    I give you credit for defending yourself, even though biologically and theologically you are lower caste and an infidel. And you have nothing to do with the West.

    But big picture, what I find most interesting are the comments from Caucasian/European/Christian/non-religious commentators who come to your defense (and attack me.) I remember in another article a commentator who left Christianity asked you how you found in Islam. I commented to him what caused him to turn into a cuck that he could not defend Christianity and the West.

    Even starting with the most objective truth, IQ and its relation to racial differences, makes these commentators froth at the mouth. Fascinating. Peace.

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    • Replies: @Truth
    Technically the Koran says good things about Jesus and considers him a saint, Muslims, and the Koran, just don't accept Jesus as one and only representation of God. That is is the issue.

    It is the Talmud that says awful things about Jesus.
  144. @Art
    I deal with facts and you ask me about my “emotions and traumas.” ... .... ... The starting point of any conversation when dealing with people is IQ.

    Sorry, but you do not deal in the right facts. It is not base IQ that matters – it is base culture that matters most. The useful nature of knowledge matters more than base IQ smarts. Chinese culture 2,000 years ago was very advanced, then it died, it stopped advancing – the reason was because of its wrongheaded culture – its culture did not value knowledge – it valued genetics as you wrongly do. The Indian culture the same – though it has many brilliant people - it values biological cast over knowledge.

    What matters most is what knowledge we use in making our decisions – not how biologically smart we are. The Jews for all their smarts, lose argument after argument because they use outdated old world dictates. They can only win by coercing others.

    Collages are full of brainy professors who propagate the wrong facts.

    Useful culturally generated knowledge trumps genetics – period.

    Your persistent oppressive comments are not winning the day.

    Being ethical and honest and good does not require a rocket science biological mentality. That must be our goal – good things will naturally follow.

    Peace --- Art

    Art, you’re getting hysterical, calm down.

    “Useful culturally generated knowledge trumps genetics – period.”

    Which country is better: RCC Philippines or Shinto/Buddhist Japan?

    RCC El Salvador or WASP USA?

    RCC Haiti or Protestant Iceland?

    When you answer these, we can, hopefully, have a rational discussion. I’ll let you do the research on their respective IQs.

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    “Useful culturally generated knowledge trumps genetics – period.”

    I say its white - you say its black - I say its white - you say its black.

    Even though we are at a comment standoff - I feel very confident in my position.

    I champion intellectual cultural knowledge and you champion the ancient ways of biological tribalism. I am on my way to the stars - you to the cave.

    I have the high road of intellect achievement for everyone (white, black, or other) – you the low road of tribal hate and skin color identity.

    How can I lose?

    Peace --- Art
  145. annamaria says:
    @attilathehen
    annamaria, again you're thinking emotionally. My starting point is IQ/evolution. Do you not believe that IQ is an indicator of the competency of a person?

    It seems you are not RCC. But if you believe in the "universal church," regardless of denomination, that is a problem.

    If you believe Talha (an Asian/Muslim) is equal to a Caucasian/Western woman, that is a problem.

    And this leads to the most important question, what is your interest in the West?

    “And this leads to the most important question, what is your interest in the West?”

    You are pretending to represent the West. This is a very unconvincing pretense.

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  146. Art says:
    @attilathehen
    Art, you're getting hysterical, calm down.

    "Useful culturally generated knowledge trumps genetics – period."

    Which country is better: RCC Philippines or Shinto/Buddhist Japan?

    RCC El Salvador or WASP USA?

    RCC Haiti or Protestant Iceland?

    When you answer these, we can, hopefully, have a rational discussion. I'll let you do the research on their respective IQs.

    “Useful culturally generated knowledge trumps genetics – period.”

    I say its white – you say its black – I say its white – you say its black.

    Even though we are at a comment standoff – I feel very confident in my position.

    I champion intellectual cultural knowledge and you champion the ancient ways of biological tribalism. I am on my way to the stars – you to the cave.

    I have the high road of intellect achievement for everyone (white, black, or other) – you the low road of tribal hate and skin color identity.

    How can I lose?

    Peace — Art

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  147. Truth says:
    @attilathehen
    Hey Talha. I'm not insulting you. I'm stating facts. First you said you are Pakistani. The average IQ in Pakistan is 84. I did say you are in the talented 10%. You said you are a Muslim. As a Christian, Islam is a Christian heresy because of what the Koran says about Jesus. You are a heretical enemy. Again, I type these words with no malice, I am stating facts.

    I give you credit for defending yourself, even though biologically and theologically you are lower caste and an infidel. And you have nothing to do with the West.

    But big picture, what I find most interesting are the comments from Caucasian/European/Christian/non-religious commentators who come to your defense (and attack me.) I remember in another article a commentator who left Christianity asked you how you found in Islam. I commented to him what caused him to turn into a cuck that he could not defend Christianity and the West.

    Even starting with the most objective truth, IQ and its relation to racial differences, makes these commentators froth at the mouth. Fascinating. Peace.

    Technically the Koran says good things about Jesus and considers him a saint, Muslims, and the Koran, just don’t accept Jesus as one and only representation of God. That is is the issue.

    It is the Talmud that says awful things about Jesus.

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    Hey Truth,

    Slight correction; the Son of Mary (pbuh) is beyond a saint for us - no saint can approach the station of a prophet. He is not only a messenger, but among the Ulul 'Azm of the messengers (these are the arch-prophets). On top of that, Muslims await his return and hope to serve under his banner when he is sent back to set things right.

    On a side note, there has been big news in the Muslim community regarding the Sacred Mosque in Al-Aqsa. The Friday prayer was shut down by Israelis and the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem arrested. There was a shootout with some militants and the Israelis are using this as an excuse to try to dismantle the Waqf that is the custodians of the site:
    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/07/israel-calls-friday-prayers-al-aqsa-mosque-170714162537293.html

    This is potentially big news if the Muslim nations do not act to intervene quickly. This is how the Israeli side is reporting it:
    "Should Israel use the unexpected opportunity to take back control of the Temple Mount, the significance and implications would be beyond imagining. The Mount has not been under lasting Jewish control for thousands of years. If Israel succeeds in regaining sovereignty, it will be a triumph worthy of two millennia of Jewish prayer and longing, not to mention an unprecedented opportunity to begin reconstruction of the Mount and Temple as they were in Biblical days."
    https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/91736/islamic-waqfs-sovereignty-temple-mount-says-government-minister/

    We might have another intifada on our hands. It is not beyond the realm of possibility that the Israelis (who have connections with extremist groups) made use of a couple of "useful idiots" as a catalyst to make this grab for power. Note: these men were Israeli Arabs.

    I looked at the western media outlets and there is barely mention of this - google news for the 'world' category isn't even mentioning this as of now.

    Peace.

    , @attilathehen
    Technically and theologically, Islam is a Christian heresy. So what the Koran says about Jesus is not good, it is evil.

    Cuckery on display again.

    , @Sam Shama
    You've succumbed to certain temptations. Sorry if I make that accusation in haste, but saying the Talmud speaks ill of Jesus is both true and false. Mostly false, because it conceals the context. Humans are all the same, rabbis and Yehoshua included.

    To do justice to the Talmud in short metrics, as I am about to attempt, will necessarily miss the boat by a margin. Hopefully not enough to result in a watery ending. I am certainly no Talmudic scholar but I have gone through a uniform sampling of its more than six thousand pages, consisting of the Mishnah, Gemara and the Torah.

    Conceding it partially speculative - I have little knowledge regarding any heritage of systematical debates in Christianity or Islam - I submit the Talmud to be the lengthiest and broadest compendium of unbroken theological intellectualism, legal ethics, logic and lore. It is simply a revelation of the wide-ranging opinions of more than a thousand rabbis on all topics surrounding Jewish religiosity, ethics, law and life. It is thus at once fascinating, confusing, tiring, yet enlightening if the reader keeps the century and context in mind. Many early opinions are pronounced obsolete in the times which followed. It is, therefore, a most honest record of the progression of all that a people and their intellectual leadership understood, interpreted and debated.

    Taken in that context, the opprobrium heaped on a non-conformist rabbi, one who would upend the established order and all its privileges, not to mention someone who gave the populist sentiment a voice is hardly surprising.

    We live, learn and add to our common body of knowledge.

  148. Talha says:
    @Truth
    Technically the Koran says good things about Jesus and considers him a saint, Muslims, and the Koran, just don't accept Jesus as one and only representation of God. That is is the issue.

    It is the Talmud that says awful things about Jesus.

    Hey Truth,

    Slight correction; the Son of Mary (pbuh) is beyond a saint for us – no saint can approach the station of a prophet. He is not only a messenger, but among the Ulul ‘Azm of the messengers (these are the arch-prophets). On top of that, Muslims await his return and hope to serve under his banner when he is sent back to set things right.

    On a side note, there has been big news in the Muslim community regarding the Sacred Mosque in Al-Aqsa. The Friday prayer was shut down by Israelis and the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem arrested. There was a shootout with some militants and the Israelis are using this as an excuse to try to dismantle the Waqf that is the custodians of the site:

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/07/israel-calls-friday-prayers-al-aqsa-mosque-170714162537293.html

    This is potentially big news if the Muslim nations do not act to intervene quickly. This is how the Israeli side is reporting it:
    “Should Israel use the unexpected opportunity to take back control of the Temple Mount, the significance and implications would be beyond imagining. The Mount has not been under lasting Jewish control for thousands of years. If Israel succeeds in regaining sovereignty, it will be a triumph worthy of two millennia of Jewish prayer and longing, not to mention an unprecedented opportunity to begin reconstruction of the Mount and Temple as they were in Biblical days.”

    https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/91736/islamic-waqfs-sovereignty-temple-mount-says-government-minister/

    We might have another intifada on our hands. It is not beyond the realm of possibility that the Israelis (who have connections with extremist groups) made use of a couple of “useful idiots” as a catalyst to make this grab for power. Note: these men were Israeli Arabs.

    I looked at the western media outlets and there is barely mention of this – google news for the ‘world’ category isn’t even mentioning this as of now.

    Peace.

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    • Replies: @Bliss

    This is how the Israeli side is reporting it:
    “Should Israel use the unexpected opportunity to take back control of the Temple Mount, the significance and implications would be beyond imagining. The Mount has not been under lasting Jewish control for thousands of years. If Israel succeeds in regaining sovereignty, it will be a triumph worthy of two millennia of Jewish prayer and longing, not to mention an unprecedented opportunity to begin reconstruction of the Mount and Temple as they were in Biblical days.”
     
    I just don’t see how any objective observer can conclude that muslims have a better claim to the site of the Jewish temple than the jews.
    , @attilathehen
    Hey Talha, just a reminder. You're a heretic.
  149. Bliss says:
    @Talha
    Hey Truth,

    Slight correction; the Son of Mary (pbuh) is beyond a saint for us - no saint can approach the station of a prophet. He is not only a messenger, but among the Ulul 'Azm of the messengers (these are the arch-prophets). On top of that, Muslims await his return and hope to serve under his banner when he is sent back to set things right.

    On a side note, there has been big news in the Muslim community regarding the Sacred Mosque in Al-Aqsa. The Friday prayer was shut down by Israelis and the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem arrested. There was a shootout with some militants and the Israelis are using this as an excuse to try to dismantle the Waqf that is the custodians of the site:
    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/07/israel-calls-friday-prayers-al-aqsa-mosque-170714162537293.html

    This is potentially big news if the Muslim nations do not act to intervene quickly. This is how the Israeli side is reporting it:
    "Should Israel use the unexpected opportunity to take back control of the Temple Mount, the significance and implications would be beyond imagining. The Mount has not been under lasting Jewish control for thousands of years. If Israel succeeds in regaining sovereignty, it will be a triumph worthy of two millennia of Jewish prayer and longing, not to mention an unprecedented opportunity to begin reconstruction of the Mount and Temple as they were in Biblical days."
    https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/91736/islamic-waqfs-sovereignty-temple-mount-says-government-minister/

    We might have another intifada on our hands. It is not beyond the realm of possibility that the Israelis (who have connections with extremist groups) made use of a couple of "useful idiots" as a catalyst to make this grab for power. Note: these men were Israeli Arabs.

    I looked at the western media outlets and there is barely mention of this - google news for the 'world' category isn't even mentioning this as of now.

    Peace.

    This is how the Israeli side is reporting it:
    “Should Israel use the unexpected opportunity to take back control of the Temple Mount, the significance and implications would be beyond imagining. The Mount has not been under lasting Jewish control for thousands of years. If Israel succeeds in regaining sovereignty, it will be a triumph worthy of two millennia of Jewish prayer and longing, not to mention an unprecedented opportunity to begin reconstruction of the Mount and Temple as they were in Biblical days.”

    I just don’t see how any objective observer can conclude that muslims have a better claim to the site of the Jewish temple than the jews.

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    Hey Bliss,

    They don't, it should be shared between all three faiths. Muslims have no right to prevent others from utilizing those holy sites for worship - and vice versa. Whether that means splitting time of worship or designated locations, etc. If they construct a new temple and destroy whatever is currently on the site...there will be serious trouble.

    Yes the Jews may have had a temple on that site 2000+ years ago, but if everyone's been paying attention - a lot has happened since then (like Christianity and Islam). Everyone's got to share.

    Peace.

    , @Rurik

    I just don’t see how any objective observer can conclude that muslims have a better claim to the site of the Jewish temple than the jews.
     
    that's because you're a million miles away from being an "objective observer" Bliss

    what's obvious to a genuine objective observer is that the Zionists are nothing but a murderous cabal of racial supremacists and modern day Nazis, (with apologies to those German Nazis who at least were ethnically cleansing people out of their own lands, as opposed to zio-Nazis, who are cleansing the Palestinians out of the Palestinian's lands)

    if the second coming had happened, and He arrived according to Jewish and Christian gospels (not sure if Muslim religion has a second coming), but if the Messiah did actually arrive, then perhaps there'd be some justification for murdering other people and stealing their land and profaning their sacred sites.

    But as long as all of this is being done by mortal men, for reasons of tribal/racial hegemony, then any talk any of this having religious connotation is blasphemy and a sin. Nothing more than mortal men behaving like bloodthirsty, 'red in tooth and claw' animals.

    , @Truth
    ...Because the "Jews" aren't Jews, they do not even claim to be Jews, the are JewISH (Jew-like).

    https://static.wixstatic.com/media/0b94ed_b67bf18dd23c4c10be2e988a6860e315.jpg_srz_940_644_85_22_0.50_1.20_0.00_jpg_srz
    , @pensword
    I just don’t see how any objective observer can conclude that muslims have a better claim to the site of the Jewish temple than the jews.

    As a self-professed "objective observer," you might like to know that any Jewish claim to the Temple Mount is as solid as a house of cards in a Category 5 hurricane:

    https://www.washingtonreport.me/2011-august/misunderstandings-about-jerusalem-s-temple-mount.html

    In biblical times the Haram was not a sacred place. Instead it was the place that Orthodox Jews considered defiled and the most despised place in the world. Within these walls were found no remnants of any of the earlier temples but rather an image of Mars, the Roman god of war. The 1st century Jewish Roman historian Titus Flavius Josephus said the Romans always kept a whole legion of soldiers (5,000-6,000) there, and that there were stones in its walls that were 30 feet long, 15 feet thick, and 71/2 feet high. While excavating the area, Mazar found these very stones there in the Haram—not in the temple.
     
    Enjoy.
  150. Talha says:
    @Bliss

    This is how the Israeli side is reporting it:
    “Should Israel use the unexpected opportunity to take back control of the Temple Mount, the significance and implications would be beyond imagining. The Mount has not been under lasting Jewish control for thousands of years. If Israel succeeds in regaining sovereignty, it will be a triumph worthy of two millennia of Jewish prayer and longing, not to mention an unprecedented opportunity to begin reconstruction of the Mount and Temple as they were in Biblical days.”
     
    I just don’t see how any objective observer can conclude that muslims have a better claim to the site of the Jewish temple than the jews.

    Hey Bliss,

    They don’t, it should be shared between all three faiths. Muslims have no right to prevent others from utilizing those holy sites for worship – and vice versa. Whether that means splitting time of worship or designated locations, etc. If they construct a new temple and destroy whatever is currently on the site…there will be serious trouble.

    Yes the Jews may have had a temple on that site 2000+ years ago, but if everyone’s been paying attention – a lot has happened since then (like Christianity and Islam). Everyone’s got to share.

    Peace.

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    Hello Talha,
    Returning after a shortish break. Seems UR has been buzzing with activity, as usual.

    Anyway, the incident at the Temple Mount appears grave. Two policemen, Israeli Druzim, were shot by Arabs for no reason at all beyond the typical jostling and pushing at the site during prayers. I saw the video in a social media post where the policemen were simply attempting to keep the peace amidst an increasingly agitated crowd.

    One clearly sees what happened. The police speaking in calm measured tones "tiraga, tiraga" meaning "relax, relax", then shots ring out killing two of them. This is not a creation of conspiracies, so let us not throw chum in these waters filled with conspiracy bottom feeders, shall we?

    Something needs to be done about the Mount. Jews and Christians are not allowed by the PA /Waqf to pray there, a very holy site for the religions. I should like to see Muslims make their opinions known to the PA regarding this. Israel will not seize the site to exclude Muslims. Guaranteed.
    , @Bliss

    Yes the Jews may have had a temple on that site 2000+ years ago, but if everyone’s been paying attention – a lot has happened since then (like Christianity and Islam). Everyone’s got to share.
     
    The site of the Jewish temple in Jerusalem is the holiest place of Judaism. The holiest place of Islam is the Kaaba in Mecca ever since Mohammad changed his mind because the Jews of Medina were not impressed by his judeophilia. Of course a Koranic verse was conveniently revealed ordering the change in direction of prayer and Mohammad and his followers in Medina literally turned their backsides to Jerusalem in the north and started prostrating towards the pagan temple in Mecca to their south....while it still contained all its idols! (Explain that away)

    There is no religious reason for Muslims to claim a share of the Jewish Temple.
  151. @Truth
    Technically the Koran says good things about Jesus and considers him a saint, Muslims, and the Koran, just don't accept Jesus as one and only representation of God. That is is the issue.

    It is the Talmud that says awful things about Jesus.

    Technically and theologically, Islam is a Christian heresy. So what the Koran says about Jesus is not good, it is evil.

    Cuckery on display again.

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    All I did was to tell you what the document says.
  152. @Talha
    Hey Truth,

    Slight correction; the Son of Mary (pbuh) is beyond a saint for us - no saint can approach the station of a prophet. He is not only a messenger, but among the Ulul 'Azm of the messengers (these are the arch-prophets). On top of that, Muslims await his return and hope to serve under his banner when he is sent back to set things right.

    On a side note, there has been big news in the Muslim community regarding the Sacred Mosque in Al-Aqsa. The Friday prayer was shut down by Israelis and the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem arrested. There was a shootout with some militants and the Israelis are using this as an excuse to try to dismantle the Waqf that is the custodians of the site:
    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/07/israel-calls-friday-prayers-al-aqsa-mosque-170714162537293.html

    This is potentially big news if the Muslim nations do not act to intervene quickly. This is how the Israeli side is reporting it:
    "Should Israel use the unexpected opportunity to take back control of the Temple Mount, the significance and implications would be beyond imagining. The Mount has not been under lasting Jewish control for thousands of years. If Israel succeeds in regaining sovereignty, it will be a triumph worthy of two millennia of Jewish prayer and longing, not to mention an unprecedented opportunity to begin reconstruction of the Mount and Temple as they were in Biblical days."
    https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/91736/islamic-waqfs-sovereignty-temple-mount-says-government-minister/

    We might have another intifada on our hands. It is not beyond the realm of possibility that the Israelis (who have connections with extremist groups) made use of a couple of "useful idiots" as a catalyst to make this grab for power. Note: these men were Israeli Arabs.

    I looked at the western media outlets and there is barely mention of this - google news for the 'world' category isn't even mentioning this as of now.

    Peace.

    Hey Talha, just a reminder. You’re a heretic.

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    Hey Talha, just a reminder. You’re a heretic.
     
    and you're an embarrassment
    , @Sam Shama
    Ms Hen

    You appear to be clucking about rather busily, asserting your genetic/IQ superiority and all that. Be that as it may, do explain your choice of handle, a play on "Attila the Hun"; plainly inappropriate for a "Western Caucasian" supremacist wouldn't you say?

    It suggests a deep envy of Asian conquerors mixed with an inferiority complex on account of your gender.
  153. Sam Shama says:
    @Talha
    Hey Bliss,

    They don't, it should be shared between all three faiths. Muslims have no right to prevent others from utilizing those holy sites for worship - and vice versa. Whether that means splitting time of worship or designated locations, etc. If they construct a new temple and destroy whatever is currently on the site...there will be serious trouble.

    Yes the Jews may have had a temple on that site 2000+ years ago, but if everyone's been paying attention - a lot has happened since then (like Christianity and Islam). Everyone's got to share.

    Peace.

    Hello Talha,
    Returning after a shortish break. Seems UR has been buzzing with activity, as usual.

    Anyway, the incident at the Temple Mount appears grave. Two policemen, Israeli Druzim, were shot by Arabs for no reason at all beyond the typical jostling and pushing at the site during prayers. I saw the video in a social media post where the policemen were simply attempting to keep the peace amidst an increasingly agitated crowd.

    One clearly sees what happened. The police speaking in calm measured tones “tiraga, tiraga” meaning “relax, relax”, then shots ring out killing two of them. This is not a creation of conspiracies, so let us not throw chum in these waters filled with conspiracy bottom feeders, shall we?

    Something needs to be done about the Mount. Jews and Christians are not allowed by the PA /Waqf to pray there, a very holy site for the religions. I should like to see Muslims make their opinions known to the PA regarding this. Israel will not seize the site to exclude Muslims. Guaranteed.

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    Hey Sam,

    It does seem that things are starting to calm down. And if they go back to normal (as normal as it's been), then I feel there no reason for major alarm and this was just more of our short-sighted extremists causing trouble by deciding they can speak for the world's Muslims. I will definitely agree with you that Christians and Jews should be allowed to use the area to pray and I don't know why they are allowed to visit it and walk around but not pray - the rule seems really, really stupid (especially as a Hanafi since our school states they can even enter and pray in the great mosques of Mecca and Madinah). I think this is all caught up in politics.

    I certainly do hope cooler heads prevail on both sides - because if there is a move to restrict access or tear down existing structures - like I said, there will be massive trouble.

    This is front and center for the Muslim community as of late - there has been a push by all imams in the US to make the Muslim congregations aware of the situation during the Friday prayers.

    Peace.
    , @Art

    I saw the video in a social media post where the policemen were simply attempting to keep the peace amidst an increasingly agitated crowd.

    One clearly sees what happened. The police speaking in calm measured tones “tiraga, tiraga” meaning “relax, relax”, then shots ring out killing two of them.
     
    First, this reply does not condone the killing of those two men. Life is sacred – life is sacred – life is sacred.

    Israel is a continuum of living hate for the Palestinian people. For sixty years and millions of times a day – Israel insults the Palestinian people.

    Passing off this event as a peaceful situation – turned ugly in an instant – is a gross simplification – an intellectually dishonest account – it ignores the whole story.

    But then, Israel lives and momentary thrives on half-truths.

    The intellectual dishonesty of the Matrix Jew is their hallmark.

    Peace --- Art
  154. Rurik says: • Website
    @Bliss

    This is how the Israeli side is reporting it:
    “Should Israel use the unexpected opportunity to take back control of the Temple Mount, the significance and implications would be beyond imagining. The Mount has not been under lasting Jewish control for thousands of years. If Israel succeeds in regaining sovereignty, it will be a triumph worthy of two millennia of Jewish prayer and longing, not to mention an unprecedented opportunity to begin reconstruction of the Mount and Temple as they were in Biblical days.”
     
    I just don’t see how any objective observer can conclude that muslims have a better claim to the site of the Jewish temple than the jews.

    I just don’t see how any objective observer can conclude that muslims have a better claim to the site of the Jewish temple than the jews.

    that’s because you’re a million miles away from being an “objective observer” Bliss

    what’s obvious to a genuine objective observer is that the Zionists are nothing but a murderous cabal of racial supremacists and modern day Nazis, (with apologies to those German Nazis who at least were ethnically cleansing people out of their own lands, as opposed to zio-Nazis, who are cleansing the Palestinians out of the Palestinian’s lands)

    if the second coming had happened, and He arrived according to Jewish and Christian gospels (not sure if Muslim religion has a second coming), but if the Messiah did actually arrive, then perhaps there’d be some justification for murdering other people and stealing their land and profaning their sacred sites.

    But as long as all of this is being done by mortal men, for reasons of tribal/racial hegemony, then any talk any of this having religious connotation is blasphemy and a sin. Nothing more than mortal men behaving like bloodthirsty, ‘red in tooth and claw’ animals.

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  155. Rurik says: • Website
    @attilathehen
    Hey Talha, just a reminder. You're a heretic.

    Hey Talha, just a reminder. You’re a heretic.

    and you’re an embarrassment

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    I put forth a theological proof about Islam and this is all you can come up with?
  156. Sam Shama says:
    @attilathehen
    Hey Talha, just a reminder. You're a heretic.

    Ms Hen

    You appear to be clucking about rather busily, asserting your genetic/IQ superiority and all that. Be that as it may, do explain your choice of handle, a play on “Attila the Hun”; plainly inappropriate for a “Western Caucasian” supremacist wouldn’t you say?

    It suggests a deep envy of Asian conquerors mixed with an inferiority complex on account of your gender.

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    Thank you, Sam, for the proper dressing.
    , @attilathehen
    attila the hen was one of Margaret Thatcher's nicknames. She is one of my heroines. A hint at my culture.

    Are you Jewish? I don't remember seeing your name before.

  157. Talha says:
    @Sam Shama
    Hello Talha,
    Returning after a shortish break. Seems UR has been buzzing with activity, as usual.

    Anyway, the incident at the Temple Mount appears grave. Two policemen, Israeli Druzim, were shot by Arabs for no reason at all beyond the typical jostling and pushing at the site during prayers. I saw the video in a social media post where the policemen were simply attempting to keep the peace amidst an increasingly agitated crowd.

    One clearly sees what happened. The police speaking in calm measured tones "tiraga, tiraga" meaning "relax, relax", then shots ring out killing two of them. This is not a creation of conspiracies, so let us not throw chum in these waters filled with conspiracy bottom feeders, shall we?

    Something needs to be done about the Mount. Jews and Christians are not allowed by the PA /Waqf to pray there, a very holy site for the religions. I should like to see Muslims make their opinions known to the PA regarding this. Israel will not seize the site to exclude Muslims. Guaranteed.

    Hey Sam,

    It does seem that things are starting to calm down. And if they go back to normal (as normal as it’s been), then I feel there no reason for major alarm and this was just more of our short-sighted extremists causing trouble by deciding they can speak for the world’s Muslims. I will definitely agree with you that Christians and Jews should be allowed to use the area to pray and I don’t know why they are allowed to visit it and walk around but not pray – the rule seems really, really stupid (especially as a Hanafi since our school states they can even enter and pray in the great mosques of Mecca and Madinah). I think this is all caught up in politics.

    I certainly do hope cooler heads prevail on both sides – because if there is a move to restrict access or tear down existing structures – like I said, there will be massive trouble.

    This is front and center for the Muslim community as of late – there has been a push by all imams in the US to make the Muslim congregations aware of the situation during the Friday prayers.

    Peace.

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    • Replies: @Talha
    Even the Muslims in Bogota, Columbia are protesting:
    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1552303621488013&substory_index=0&id=125755470809509

    For those who want to understand the layout of the compound from a Muslim perspective:
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFQ5lynXgAAf2XS.jpg

    And this is good news:
    http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.802263
  158. annamaria says:
    @Sam Shama
    Ms Hen

    You appear to be clucking about rather busily, asserting your genetic/IQ superiority and all that. Be that as it may, do explain your choice of handle, a play on "Attila the Hun"; plainly inappropriate for a "Western Caucasian" supremacist wouldn't you say?

    It suggests a deep envy of Asian conquerors mixed with an inferiority complex on account of your gender.

    Thank you, Sam, for the proper dressing.

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    Thanks. I wonder if any explanation as to her ill-chosen handle is forthcoming.
  159. Truth says:
    @Bliss

    This is how the Israeli side is reporting it:
    “Should Israel use the unexpected opportunity to take back control of the Temple Mount, the significance and implications would be beyond imagining. The Mount has not been under lasting Jewish control for thousands of years. If Israel succeeds in regaining sovereignty, it will be a triumph worthy of two millennia of Jewish prayer and longing, not to mention an unprecedented opportunity to begin reconstruction of the Mount and Temple as they were in Biblical days.”
     
    I just don’t see how any objective observer can conclude that muslims have a better claim to the site of the Jewish temple than the jews.

    …Because the “Jews” aren’t Jews, they do not even claim to be Jews, the are JewISH (Jew-like).

    https://static.wixstatic.com/media/0b94ed_b67bf18dd23c4c10be2e988a6860e315.jpg_srz_940_644_85_22_0.50_1.20_0.00_jpg_srz

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  160. Truth says:
    @attilathehen
    Technically and theologically, Islam is a Christian heresy. So what the Koran says about Jesus is not good, it is evil.

    Cuckery on display again.

    All I did was to tell you what the document says.

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  161. Art says:
    @Sam Shama
    Hello Talha,
    Returning after a shortish break. Seems UR has been buzzing with activity, as usual.

    Anyway, the incident at the Temple Mount appears grave. Two policemen, Israeli Druzim, were shot by Arabs for no reason at all beyond the typical jostling and pushing at the site during prayers. I saw the video in a social media post where the policemen were simply attempting to keep the peace amidst an increasingly agitated crowd.

    One clearly sees what happened. The police speaking in calm measured tones "tiraga, tiraga" meaning "relax, relax", then shots ring out killing two of them. This is not a creation of conspiracies, so let us not throw chum in these waters filled with conspiracy bottom feeders, shall we?

    Something needs to be done about the Mount. Jews and Christians are not allowed by the PA /Waqf to pray there, a very holy site for the religions. I should like to see Muslims make their opinions known to the PA regarding this. Israel will not seize the site to exclude Muslims. Guaranteed.

    I saw the video in a social media post where the policemen were simply attempting to keep the peace amidst an increasingly agitated crowd.

    One clearly sees what happened. The police speaking in calm measured tones “tiraga, tiraga” meaning “relax, relax”, then shots ring out killing two of them.

    First, this reply does not condone the killing of those two men. Life is sacred – life is sacred – life is sacred.

    Israel is a continuum of living hate for the Palestinian people. For sixty years and millions of times a day – Israel insults the Palestinian people.

    Passing off this event as a peaceful situation – turned ugly in an instant – is a gross simplification – an intellectually dishonest account – it ignores the whole story.

    But then, Israel lives and momentary thrives on half-truths.

    The intellectual dishonesty of the Matrix Jew is their hallmark.

    Peace — Art

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    [Passing off this event as a peaceful situation – turned ugly in an instant – is a gross simplification – an intellectually dishonest account – it ignores the whole story.]

    I am going to ignore the rest of your predictable nonsense, but tell me your account of what happened, won't you?
    , @Rurik
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=141&v=vHbJD_oIK9s
  162. Sam Shama says:
    @Truth
    Technically the Koran says good things about Jesus and considers him a saint, Muslims, and the Koran, just don't accept Jesus as one and only representation of God. That is is the issue.

    It is the Talmud that says awful things about Jesus.

    You’ve succumbed to certain temptations. Sorry if I make that accusation in haste, but saying the Talmud speaks ill of Jesus is both true and false. Mostly false, because it conceals the context. Humans are all the same, rabbis and Yehoshua included.

    To do justice to the Talmud in short metrics, as I am about to attempt, will necessarily miss the boat by a margin. Hopefully not enough to result in a watery ending. I am certainly no Talmudic scholar but I have gone through a uniform sampling of its more than six thousand pages, consisting of the Mishnah, Gemara and the Torah.

    Conceding it partially speculative – I have little knowledge regarding any heritage of systematical debates in Christianity or Islam – I submit the Talmud to be the lengthiest and broadest compendium of unbroken theological intellectualism, legal ethics, logic and lore. It is simply a revelation of the wide-ranging opinions of more than a thousand rabbis on all topics surrounding Jewish religiosity, ethics, law and life. It is thus at once fascinating, confusing, tiring, yet enlightening if the reader keeps the century and context in mind. Many early opinions are pronounced obsolete in the times which followed. It is, therefore, a most honest record of the progression of all that a people and their intellectual leadership understood, interpreted and debated.

    Taken in that context, the opprobrium heaped on a non-conformist rabbi, one who would upend the established order and all its privileges, not to mention someone who gave the populist sentiment a voice is hardly surprising.

    We live, learn and add to our common body of knowledge.

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    To be perfectly honest, my friend, I have not read one page of the Talmud in context.. What I have read, is hundred of snippets of the Talmud from the internet, and it contains some, well, "unorthodox"to put it lightly, points of view, about many things, Including Jesus. One is that Jesus is to spend all eternity boiling in "hot excrement" in hell.

    Now I understand the concept of epoch-related context, this occurs in the bible with differences between the Old and New Testament, such as slavery, and love thy neighbor, etc. As Talha will tell you, it is also a topic of discussion with Koran scholars, but the verses I've read about Jesus are vivid enough whereas negation would be a bit difficult.
    , @Art
    I am certainly no Talmudic scholar but I have gone through a uniform sampling of its more than six thousand pages, consisting of the Mishnah, Gemara and the Torah.

    I say without any trepidation, that these six words “the truth will set you free” from Jesus Christ, are of more value to humanity, then all six thousand pages of the Talmud.

    In short, the future is everything – and finding the truth is the path to the future.

    In human relations, finding the truth leads to peace.

    Finding the truth is the path away from the chaos of the universe..

    Peace --- Art

    , @nickels
    I would highly suggest the works of Michael Hoffman at this point.

    This is a typical dodge.
  163. Sam Shama says:
    @Art

    I saw the video in a social media post where the policemen were simply attempting to keep the peace amidst an increasingly agitated crowd.

    One clearly sees what happened. The police speaking in calm measured tones “tiraga, tiraga” meaning “relax, relax”, then shots ring out killing two of them.
     
    First, this reply does not condone the killing of those two men. Life is sacred – life is sacred – life is sacred.

    Israel is a continuum of living hate for the Palestinian people. For sixty years and millions of times a day – Israel insults the Palestinian people.

    Passing off this event as a peaceful situation – turned ugly in an instant – is a gross simplification – an intellectually dishonest account – it ignores the whole story.

    But then, Israel lives and momentary thrives on half-truths.

    The intellectual dishonesty of the Matrix Jew is their hallmark.

    Peace --- Art

    [Passing off this event as a peaceful situation – turned ugly in an instant – is a gross simplification – an intellectually dishonest account – it ignores the whole story.]

    I am going to ignore the rest of your predictable nonsense, but tell me your account of what happened, won’t you?

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    [Passing off this event as a peaceful situation – turned ugly in an instant – is a gross simplification – an intellectually dishonest account – it ignores the whole story.]

    I am going to ignore the rest of your predictable nonsense, but tell me your account of what happened, won’t you?
     
    For 21,900 straight days (60x365) the Israelis have made life hell for the Palestinians - on that day, payback just popped out. Human nature kicked back. What goes around comes around.

    I do not expect you to get that.

    Peace --- Art

    p.s. Taking life is wrong.
  164. Sam Shama says:
    @annamaria
    Thank you, Sam, for the proper dressing.

    Thanks. I wonder if any explanation as to her ill-chosen handle is forthcoming.

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  165. Rurik says: • Website
    @Art

    I saw the video in a social media post where the policemen were simply attempting to keep the peace amidst an increasingly agitated crowd.

    One clearly sees what happened. The police speaking in calm measured tones “tiraga, tiraga” meaning “relax, relax”, then shots ring out killing two of them.
     
    First, this reply does not condone the killing of those two men. Life is sacred – life is sacred – life is sacred.

    Israel is a continuum of living hate for the Palestinian people. For sixty years and millions of times a day – Israel insults the Palestinian people.

    Passing off this event as a peaceful situation – turned ugly in an instant – is a gross simplification – an intellectually dishonest account – it ignores the whole story.

    But then, Israel lives and momentary thrives on half-truths.

    The intellectual dishonesty of the Matrix Jew is their hallmark.

    Peace --- Art

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  166. Talha says:
    @Talha
    Hey Sam,

    It does seem that things are starting to calm down. And if they go back to normal (as normal as it's been), then I feel there no reason for major alarm and this was just more of our short-sighted extremists causing trouble by deciding they can speak for the world's Muslims. I will definitely agree with you that Christians and Jews should be allowed to use the area to pray and I don't know why they are allowed to visit it and walk around but not pray - the rule seems really, really stupid (especially as a Hanafi since our school states they can even enter and pray in the great mosques of Mecca and Madinah). I think this is all caught up in politics.

    I certainly do hope cooler heads prevail on both sides - because if there is a move to restrict access or tear down existing structures - like I said, there will be massive trouble.

    This is front and center for the Muslim community as of late - there has been a push by all imams in the US to make the Muslim congregations aware of the situation during the Friday prayers.

    Peace.

    Even the Muslims in Bogota, Columbia are protesting:

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1552303621488013&substory_index=0&id=125755470809509

    For those who want to understand the layout of the compound from a Muslim perspective:

    And this is good news:

    http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.802263

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    Israeli police: "Disperse!"

    Palestinian guy: "Let me wrap up my two rakahs yo!"

    https://twitter.com/arnaout22/status/888881139523497985

    LOL! MashaAllah - may their spirit endure!
  167. Art says:
    @Sam Shama
    [Passing off this event as a peaceful situation – turned ugly in an instant – is a gross simplification – an intellectually dishonest account – it ignores the whole story.]

    I am going to ignore the rest of your predictable nonsense, but tell me your account of what happened, won't you?

    [Passing off this event as a peaceful situation – turned ugly in an instant – is a gross simplification – an intellectually dishonest account – it ignores the whole story.]

    I am going to ignore the rest of your predictable nonsense, but tell me your account of what happened, won’t you?

    For 21,900 straight days (60×365) the Israelis have made life hell for the Palestinians – on that day, payback just popped out. Human nature kicked back. What goes around comes around.

    I do not expect you to get that.

    Peace — Art

    p.s. Taking life is wrong.

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  168. Abraham, Moses and others communicated directly with G_d we are told. How much of the Bible is direct communication and how much is commentary? Would not the direct communication be of greatest value? Or is the struggle to develop commentary also worthy? Or is the latter subject to revision or manipulation over the centuries? How does one know what is truth and what is not? Do those questions not underlie all subsequent uses of scriptural text for direction and answers?

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  169. Truth says:
    @Sam Shama
    You've succumbed to certain temptations. Sorry if I make that accusation in haste, but saying the Talmud speaks ill of Jesus is both true and false. Mostly false, because it conceals the context. Humans are all the same, rabbis and Yehoshua included.

    To do justice to the Talmud in short metrics, as I am about to attempt, will necessarily miss the boat by a margin. Hopefully not enough to result in a watery ending. I am certainly no Talmudic scholar but I have gone through a uniform sampling of its more than six thousand pages, consisting of the Mishnah, Gemara and the Torah.

    Conceding it partially speculative - I have little knowledge regarding any heritage of systematical debates in Christianity or Islam - I submit the Talmud to be the lengthiest and broadest compendium of unbroken theological intellectualism, legal ethics, logic and lore. It is simply a revelation of the wide-ranging opinions of more than a thousand rabbis on all topics surrounding Jewish religiosity, ethics, law and life. It is thus at once fascinating, confusing, tiring, yet enlightening if the reader keeps the century and context in mind. Many early opinions are pronounced obsolete in the times which followed. It is, therefore, a most honest record of the progression of all that a people and their intellectual leadership understood, interpreted and debated.

    Taken in that context, the opprobrium heaped on a non-conformist rabbi, one who would upend the established order and all its privileges, not to mention someone who gave the populist sentiment a voice is hardly surprising.

    We live, learn and add to our common body of knowledge.

    To be perfectly honest, my friend, I have not read one page of the Talmud in context.. What I have read, is hundred of snippets of the Talmud from the internet, and it contains some, well, “unorthodox”to put it lightly, points of view, about many things, Including Jesus. One is that Jesus is to spend all eternity boiling in “hot excrement” in hell.

    Now I understand the concept of epoch-related context, this occurs in the bible with differences between the Old and New Testament, such as slavery, and love thy neighbor, etc. As Talha will tell you, it is also a topic of discussion with Koran scholars, but the verses I’ve read about Jesus are vivid enough whereas negation would be a bit difficult.

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  170. Art says:
    @Sam Shama
    You've succumbed to certain temptations. Sorry if I make that accusation in haste, but saying the Talmud speaks ill of Jesus is both true and false. Mostly false, because it conceals the context. Humans are all the same, rabbis and Yehoshua included.

    To do justice to the Talmud in short metrics, as I am about to attempt, will necessarily miss the boat by a margin. Hopefully not enough to result in a watery ending. I am certainly no Talmudic scholar but I have gone through a uniform sampling of its more than six thousand pages, consisting of the Mishnah, Gemara and the Torah.

    Conceding it partially speculative - I have little knowledge regarding any heritage of systematical debates in Christianity or Islam - I submit the Talmud to be the lengthiest and broadest compendium of unbroken theological intellectualism, legal ethics, logic and lore. It is simply a revelation of the wide-ranging opinions of more than a thousand rabbis on all topics surrounding Jewish religiosity, ethics, law and life. It is thus at once fascinating, confusing, tiring, yet enlightening if the reader keeps the century and context in mind. Many early opinions are pronounced obsolete in the times which followed. It is, therefore, a most honest record of the progression of all that a people and their intellectual leadership understood, interpreted and debated.

    Taken in that context, the opprobrium heaped on a non-conformist rabbi, one who would upend the established order and all its privileges, not to mention someone who gave the populist sentiment a voice is hardly surprising.

    We live, learn and add to our common body of knowledge.

    I am certainly no Talmudic scholar but I have gone through a uniform sampling of its more than six thousand pages, consisting of the Mishnah, Gemara and the Torah.

    I say without any trepidation, that these six words “the truth will set you free” from Jesus Christ, are of more value to humanity, then all six thousand pages of the Talmud.

    In short, the future is everything – and finding the truth is the path to the future.

    In human relations, finding the truth leads to peace.

    Finding the truth is the path away from the chaos of the universe..

    Peace — Art

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  171. John Hawk says:

    I’ve always liked Israel Shamir’s writing and the intelligence that powers it. But, he knows as well as I know and as well you know that it’s all a crock of shit!

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  172. @Sam Shama
    Ms Hen

    You appear to be clucking about rather busily, asserting your genetic/IQ superiority and all that. Be that as it may, do explain your choice of handle, a play on "Attila the Hun"; plainly inappropriate for a "Western Caucasian" supremacist wouldn't you say?

    It suggests a deep envy of Asian conquerors mixed with an inferiority complex on account of your gender.

    attila the hen was one of Margaret Thatcher’s nicknames. She is one of my heroines. A hint at my culture.

    Are you Jewish? I don’t remember seeing your name before.

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    Well, surprises never cease! I should've known, but Maggie T was a bit early in the scheme of things for my generation. Yes, I am Jewish, born and raised in the U.K. and now a citizen of the U.S. What prompts your vitriol?
  173. @Rurik

    Hey Talha, just a reminder. You’re a heretic.
     
    and you're an embarrassment

    I put forth a theological proof about Islam and this is all you can come up with?

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  174. Sam Shama says:
    @attilathehen
    attila the hen was one of Margaret Thatcher's nicknames. She is one of my heroines. A hint at my culture.

    Are you Jewish? I don't remember seeing your name before.

    Well, surprises never cease! I should’ve known, but Maggie T was a bit early in the scheme of things for my generation. Yes, I am Jewish, born and raised in the U.K. and now a citizen of the U.S. What prompts your vitriol?

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    Vitriol! I deal in facts.

    Since you are Jewish (mostly likely of Asiatic origin, yes Ashkenazis are Asians/blacks with European blood), answer this: Are Jews the chosen? If yes, why? If no, why not?

  175. @Sam Shama
    Well, surprises never cease! I should've known, but Maggie T was a bit early in the scheme of things for my generation. Yes, I am Jewish, born and raised in the U.K. and now a citizen of the U.S. What prompts your vitriol?

    Vitriol! I deal in facts.

    Since you are Jewish (mostly likely of Asiatic origin, yes Ashkenazis are Asians/blacks with European blood), answer this: Are Jews the chosen? If yes, why? If no, why not?

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    Do you deal with which facts? Which facts are those?
  176. Bliss says:
    @Talha
    Hey Bliss,

    They don't, it should be shared between all three faiths. Muslims have no right to prevent others from utilizing those holy sites for worship - and vice versa. Whether that means splitting time of worship or designated locations, etc. If they construct a new temple and destroy whatever is currently on the site...there will be serious trouble.

    Yes the Jews may have had a temple on that site 2000+ years ago, but if everyone's been paying attention - a lot has happened since then (like Christianity and Islam). Everyone's got to share.

    Peace.

    Yes the Jews may have had a temple on that site 2000+ years ago, but if everyone’s been paying attention – a lot has happened since then (like Christianity and Islam). Everyone’s got to share.

    The site of the Jewish temple in Jerusalem is the holiest place of Judaism. The holiest place of Islam is the Kaaba in Mecca ever since Mohammad changed his mind because the Jews of Medina were not impressed by his judeophilia. Of course a Koranic verse was conveniently revealed ordering the change in direction of prayer and Mohammad and his followers in Medina literally turned their backsides to Jerusalem in the north and started prostrating towards the pagan temple in Mecca to their south….while it still contained all its idols! (Explain that away)

    There is no religious reason for Muslims to claim a share of the Jewish Temple.

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    Hey Bliss,

    The site of the Jewish temple in Jerusalem is the holiest place of Judaism.
     
    Yes.

    holiest place of Islam is the Kaaba in Mecca
     
    There is a difference of opinion on this, but generally yes.

    ever since Mohammad changed his mind because the Jews of Medina
     
    If you say so - we say it was revealed to him that the qiblah would be changed in recognition of the new direction of humanity towards the original house of worship built by the Prophet Abraham (pbuh). Your argument would have more coherence if it wasn't for the fact that even in Mecca at the beginning, when there were no Jews to worry about, the qiblah was Jerusalem.

    while it still contained all its idols
     
    Putting graffiti on or inside a sacred location does not reduce its status.

    There is no religious reason for Muslims to claim a share of the Jewish Temple.
     
    Of course not, we are only concerned with the site of the miraaj - which happens to be smack dab in the middle of the temple site. They consider it "holy" - something for which there is zero empirical proof other than a claim - and so do we. The Romans destroyed it, we didn't. On top of that, we claim all the Jewish prophets as our own - two of my sons are named after them - so anything associated with them is also of interest to us (us, meaning all Muslims from Senegal to Malaysia and anywhere else).

    There is also the well known fact that Muslims (of all backgrounds) spilled their own blood and crossed swords to claim and defend their sovereignty over Jerusalem against the Byzantines, Crusaders, Mongols, European Empires, etc. And letting Jews settle therein (as reported by the Iraqi Jewish historian and journalist, Nissim Rejwan):
    “It is interest to note here that, as far as Palestine is concerned, the right of Jews to ‘return’ to live in this small area of land was accepted by all successive Muslim rulers from the Muslim conquest to the end of the nineteenth century, when Zionist settlement there became entangled in European weltpolitik. Gibb and Bowen relate how, when the Jews of Europe ‘learned of the paradisiacal life awaiting them in Turkey’ and many of them set out for Palestine, it was not the Muslims who objected but the [Christian] Franciscans of Jerusalem, ‘who talked the Pope into forbidding the Venetians to carry Jewish passengers to the Holy Land.’ This was not the first time Jerusalem Christians tried to prevail on Muslim rulers to ban Jews from living in the city. A similar attempt was made first when the second Caliph, Omar, entered Jerusalem at the time of its conquest by the Muslim army in the seventh century, and again when Salah ad-Din [Saladin] drove out the Crusaders in the twelfth. On both of these occasions, the Christian patriarch of the city tried to persuade the Muslim conquerors to prevent Jews from living in or (as in the latter case) returning to Jerusalem after they had been expelled from it by the Christians. Both Omar and Salah ad-Din refused to heed their pleas.”
    Israel's Place in the Middle East*

    So yeah - we have always had a dog in that fight. If the Israelis do not want to negotiate and share sovereignty and would rather take it by force of arms, all good and well, they'll just be another notch on our belt when the Muslim world is able to get past its differences and comes for the holy city again.

    Peace.

    *Note: Of interest here is that a while back I was able to link to text directly to a page inside the book, this is no longer possible. Now it takes you to the front page and description. This is the first book archived on Google for which I have experienced this. But if one wants to confirm the text is verbatim, they can just copy parts of it and do a search - it will show up in the search results page in bold under the link.

  177. Talha says:
    @Bliss

    Yes the Jews may have had a temple on that site 2000+ years ago, but if everyone’s been paying attention – a lot has happened since then (like Christianity and Islam). Everyone’s got to share.
     
    The site of the Jewish temple in Jerusalem is the holiest place of Judaism. The holiest place of Islam is the Kaaba in Mecca ever since Mohammad changed his mind because the Jews of Medina were not impressed by his judeophilia. Of course a Koranic verse was conveniently revealed ordering the change in direction of prayer and Mohammad and his followers in Medina literally turned their backsides to Jerusalem in the north and started prostrating towards the pagan temple in Mecca to their south....while it still contained all its idols! (Explain that away)

    There is no religious reason for Muslims to claim a share of the Jewish Temple.

    Hey Bliss,

    The site of the Jewish temple in Jerusalem is the holiest place of Judaism.

    Yes.

    holiest place of Islam is the Kaaba in Mecca

    There is a difference of opinion on this, but generally yes.

    ever since Mohammad changed his mind because the Jews of Medina

    If you say so – we say it was revealed to him that the qiblah would be changed in recognition of the new direction of humanity towards the original house of worship built by the Prophet Abraham (pbuh). Your argument would have more coherence if it wasn’t for the fact that even in Mecca at the beginning, when there were no Jews to worry about, the qiblah was Jerusalem.

    while it still contained all its idols

    Putting graffiti on or inside a sacred location does not reduce its status.

    There is no religious reason for Muslims to claim a share of the Jewish Temple.

    Of course not, we are only concerned with the site of the miraaj – which happens to be smack dab in the middle of the temple site. They consider it “holy” – something for which there is zero empirical proof other than a claim – and so do we. The Romans destroyed it, we didn’t. On top of that, we claim all the Jewish prophets as our own – two of my sons are named after them – so anything associated with them is also of interest to us (us, meaning all Muslims from Senegal to Malaysia and anywhere else).

    There is also the well known fact that Muslims (of all backgrounds) spilled their own blood and crossed swords to claim and defend their sovereignty over Jerusalem against the Byzantines, Crusaders, Mongols, European Empires, etc. And letting Jews settle therein (as reported by the Iraqi Jewish historian and journalist, Nissim Rejwan):
    “It is interest to note here that, as far as Palestine is concerned, the right of Jews to ‘return’ to live in this small area of land was accepted by all successive Muslim rulers from the Muslim conquest to the end of the nineteenth century, when Zionist settlement there became entangled in European weltpolitik. Gibb and Bowen relate how, when the Jews of Europe ‘learned of the paradisiacal life awaiting them in Turkey’ and many of them set out for Palestine, it was not the Muslims who objected but the [Christian] Franciscans of Jerusalem, ‘who talked the Pope into forbidding the Venetians to carry Jewish passengers to the Holy Land.’ This was not the first time Jerusalem Christians tried to prevail on Muslim rulers to ban Jews from living in the city. A similar attempt was made first when the second Caliph, Omar, entered Jerusalem at the time of its conquest by the Muslim army in the seventh century, and again when Salah ad-Din [Saladin] drove out the Crusaders in the twelfth. On both of these occasions, the Christian patriarch of the city tried to persuade the Muslim conquerors to prevent Jews from living in or (as in the latter case) returning to Jerusalem after they had been expelled from it by the Christians. Both Omar and Salah ad-Din refused to heed their pleas.”
    Israel’s Place in the Middle East*

    So yeah – we have always had a dog in that fight. If the Israelis do not want to negotiate and share sovereignty and would rather take it by force of arms, all good and well, they’ll just be another notch on our belt when the Muslim world is able to get past its differences and comes for the holy city again.

    Peace.

    *Note: Of interest here is that a while back I was able to link to text directly to a page inside the book, this is no longer possible. Now it takes you to the front page and description. This is the first book archived on Google for which I have experienced this. But if one wants to confirm the text is verbatim, they can just copy parts of it and do a search – it will show up in the search results page in bold under the link.

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    It seems the preview has been taken down for whatever reason; copyright probably.
    , @Bliss

    Your argument would have more coherence if it wasn’t for the fact that even in Mecca at the beginning, when there were no Jews to worry about, the qiblah was Jerusalem.
     
    You clearly have a problem thinking rationally. Mohammad started out as a judeophile imitator in Mecca, prostrating towards Jerusalem not the pagan Kaaba, so what “incoherence” are you talking about? He migrated to Medina because it was the most Jewish town in Arabia. It was only after the Jews of Medina refused to accept him as a prophet and refused to join him in his murderous robbing expeditions against the Meccan caravans that he started prostrating towards the pagan temple in Mecca, which contained idols and images of a pantheon of gods and goddesses. Does that not make Mohammad and his companions polytheist idol worshippers? Does the Koran not condemn such idolaters to eternal torture in hell (talk about cruel and unjust)? That is an example of the incoherences and inconsistencies that you brainwashed fools imagine are the wisdom and morality of the “all-knowing, merciful and compassionate” God.
    , @Bliss

    Putting graffiti on or inside a sacred location does not reduce its status.
     
    Since it is highly unlikely that you don’t know the meaning of the word graffiti the above is just another example of your willful, shameless dishonesty. Incredibly stupid of you to imply that the pagan Arabs were worshipping graffiti illegally painted on the Kaaba (as if they would even have allowed it) instead of the religious idols and images of numerous gods and goddesses that it contained.

    Since idol worship is such an anathema in Islam how do you justify the Koranic revelation that ordered Mohammad and his companions to prostrate towards the pagan idols in the Kaaba?
  178. Sam Shama says:
    @attilathehen
    Vitriol! I deal in facts.

    Since you are Jewish (mostly likely of Asiatic origin, yes Ashkenazis are Asians/blacks with European blood), answer this: Are Jews the chosen? If yes, why? If no, why not?

    Do you deal with which facts? Which facts are those?

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    Do you deal with which facts? Which facts are those?

    Oh my – how funny - here we have two tribalists going after each other – one a Jew Matrix man – the other an “Atalla the hen” devotee.

    Both are unwilling to acknowledge the superiority of Western intellectual culture. Both think that their family gonads put food on their table, not the cumulative cultural knowledge that actually provides them their future.

    Darwin unleashed the idea of “the survival of the biological fittest.” God’s universe provided us with gonads and brains. Without question, it has evolved that brains are superior to gonads at providing a better tomorrow. Cumulative knowledge in the form of intellectual culture, provides us with more and better tomorrows then does tribalism.

    Today we live by “the survival of the fittest ideas” – not the fittest tribal gonads. Shared ideas will take us to the stars.

    Philosophical Christian culture is by far the superior society at providing better tomorrows.

    Peace --- Art
    , @attilathehen
    You did not answer my questions. Typical of a "Jew." Evasiveness is typical of the Jewish mind. Directness is not liked.

    I stated before IQ is my starting point for everything.

    Here's another question: (((Marc Zuckerberg))) married Priscilla Chan a Chinese Buddhist. Is she a shiksa?

  179. Art says:
    @Sam Shama
    Do you deal with which facts? Which facts are those?

    Do you deal with which facts? Which facts are those?

    Oh my – how funny – here we have two tribalists going after each other – one a Jew Matrix man – the other an “Atalla the hen” devotee.

    Both are unwilling to acknowledge the superiority of Western intellectual culture. Both think that their family gonads put food on their table, not the cumulative cultural knowledge that actually provides them their future.

    Darwin unleashed the idea of “the survival of the biological fittest.” God’s universe provided us with gonads and brains. Without question, it has evolved that brains are superior to gonads at providing a better tomorrow. Cumulative knowledge in the form of intellectual culture, provides us with more and better tomorrows then does tribalism.

    Today we live by “the survival of the fittest ideas” – not the fittest tribal gonads. Shared ideas will take us to the stars.

    Philosophical Christian culture is by far the superior society at providing better tomorrows.

    Peace — Art

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    "Philosophical Christianity" requires IQ. Your IQ and reading/comprehension skills are low.

    I have consistently stated that the West is best. Christianity is the best religion for Westerners. It does not work for blacks/Asians. If they want to be Christian they must have their own churches.

    The West is made up of Caucasian/European peoples. If you cannot see the difference between Caucasians, Asians, blacks, add poor eyesight to your IQ deficiencies.

    Here are concrete examples of where philosophical Christianity does not work for Asians/blacks.

    Which country is better: RCC Philippines or Shinto/Budhhist Japan?
    RCC Haiti or Protestant Iceland?
    RCC El Salvador or WASP USA?

    (((Sam Schama))) has not answered my questions. He can't deal philosophically with my questions.
  180. @Sam Shama
    Do you deal with which facts? Which facts are those?

    You did not answer my questions. Typical of a “Jew.” Evasiveness is typical of the Jewish mind. Directness is not liked.

    I stated before IQ is my starting point for everything.

    Here’s another question: (((Marc Zuckerberg))) married Priscilla Chan a Chinese Buddhist. Is she a shiksa?

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    Sorry, I've been busier than usual, thus the short replies. Consider me now, properly informed regarding things typical of the Jewish mind.

    Your position, one which asserts IQ to be the most important determinant of earthly success, Western culture the epitome of cultures, places you, a white woman (where do you live, and what is your ethnicity?), on a perch of high altitude. You also wish Jews and others to leave Western nations. Have I got it right?

    Now, about IQ; I've read the literature and taken a few tests [as an aside I took those tests in my 20s and I am confident while they measure a person's ability for abstract reasoning, mathematical acuity, and pattern recognition, they are utterly useless at predicting most things which matter in life, on the average].

    The received "science" has North East Asians, followed by Nordic Europeans, as possessing the highest group averages among large populations (105, 100 respectively). Ashkenazi Jews and Indian Brahmins, if one were to drill down to smaller sub-groups [ref. Anatoly Karlin] exceed the NE Asian and Nordic averages by at least one standard deviation. So what are we to conclude? Very little, I should think.

    On Western culture; Well, that's rather a broad subject, and culture is not static. If one were to accept as I do, Hellenic culture and philosophy as seminal to the West, it still begs the obvious, which is, seminal does not imply permanent. Still, many of us wish to preserve things rather important for ourselves in our own corners of the world. Quaint for others, important for us. For example, I don't sense the use of understatement to make a point to be quite your style. Which leaves one wondering how on earth Lady Thatcher could possibly be a heroine for you.

    Are we The Chosen? Yes, G'd chose to give us the Torah. That is the theological claim. Nothing more. I strongly believe in the primacy of individual responsibility and work, which supersedes all else.

    What concerns you about Zuckerberg's matrimony? Why is it is important to you? Is Priscilla a 'Shiksa'? Perhaps a hundred years ago someone might've called her that, just as some today might call a rude woman a Minger.

  181. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Talha
    Hey Bliss,

    The site of the Jewish temple in Jerusalem is the holiest place of Judaism.
     
    Yes.

    holiest place of Islam is the Kaaba in Mecca
     
    There is a difference of opinion on this, but generally yes.

    ever since Mohammad changed his mind because the Jews of Medina
     
    If you say so - we say it was revealed to him that the qiblah would be changed in recognition of the new direction of humanity towards the original house of worship built by the Prophet Abraham (pbuh). Your argument would have more coherence if it wasn't for the fact that even in Mecca at the beginning, when there were no Jews to worry about, the qiblah was Jerusalem.

    while it still contained all its idols
     
    Putting graffiti on or inside a sacred location does not reduce its status.

    There is no religious reason for Muslims to claim a share of the Jewish Temple.
     
    Of course not, we are only concerned with the site of the miraaj - which happens to be smack dab in the middle of the temple site. They consider it "holy" - something for which there is zero empirical proof other than a claim - and so do we. The Romans destroyed it, we didn't. On top of that, we claim all the Jewish prophets as our own - two of my sons are named after them - so anything associated with them is also of interest to us (us, meaning all Muslims from Senegal to Malaysia and anywhere else).

    There is also the well known fact that Muslims (of all backgrounds) spilled their own blood and crossed swords to claim and defend their sovereignty over Jerusalem against the Byzantines, Crusaders, Mongols, European Empires, etc. And letting Jews settle therein (as reported by the Iraqi Jewish historian and journalist, Nissim Rejwan):
    “It is interest to note here that, as far as Palestine is concerned, the right of Jews to ‘return’ to live in this small area of land was accepted by all successive Muslim rulers from the Muslim conquest to the end of the nineteenth century, when Zionist settlement there became entangled in European weltpolitik. Gibb and Bowen relate how, when the Jews of Europe ‘learned of the paradisiacal life awaiting them in Turkey’ and many of them set out for Palestine, it was not the Muslims who objected but the [Christian] Franciscans of Jerusalem, ‘who talked the Pope into forbidding the Venetians to carry Jewish passengers to the Holy Land.’ This was not the first time Jerusalem Christians tried to prevail on Muslim rulers to ban Jews from living in the city. A similar attempt was made first when the second Caliph, Omar, entered Jerusalem at the time of its conquest by the Muslim army in the seventh century, and again when Salah ad-Din [Saladin] drove out the Crusaders in the twelfth. On both of these occasions, the Christian patriarch of the city tried to persuade the Muslim conquerors to prevent Jews from living in or (as in the latter case) returning to Jerusalem after they had been expelled from it by the Christians. Both Omar and Salah ad-Din refused to heed their pleas.”
    Israel's Place in the Middle East*

    So yeah - we have always had a dog in that fight. If the Israelis do not want to negotiate and share sovereignty and would rather take it by force of arms, all good and well, they'll just be another notch on our belt when the Muslim world is able to get past its differences and comes for the holy city again.

    Peace.

    *Note: Of interest here is that a while back I was able to link to text directly to a page inside the book, this is no longer possible. Now it takes you to the front page and description. This is the first book archived on Google for which I have experienced this. But if one wants to confirm the text is verbatim, they can just copy parts of it and do a search - it will show up in the search results page in bold under the link.

    It seems the preview has been taken down for whatever reason; copyright probably.

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  182. @Art
    Do you deal with which facts? Which facts are those?

    Oh my – how funny - here we have two tribalists going after each other – one a Jew Matrix man – the other an “Atalla the hen” devotee.

    Both are unwilling to acknowledge the superiority of Western intellectual culture. Both think that their family gonads put food on their table, not the cumulative cultural knowledge that actually provides them their future.

    Darwin unleashed the idea of “the survival of the biological fittest.” God’s universe provided us with gonads and brains. Without question, it has evolved that brains are superior to gonads at providing a better tomorrow. Cumulative knowledge in the form of intellectual culture, provides us with more and better tomorrows then does tribalism.

    Today we live by “the survival of the fittest ideas” – not the fittest tribal gonads. Shared ideas will take us to the stars.

    Philosophical Christian culture is by far the superior society at providing better tomorrows.

    Peace --- Art

    “Philosophical Christianity” requires IQ. Your IQ and reading/comprehension skills are low.

    I have consistently stated that the West is best. Christianity is the best religion for Westerners. It does not work for blacks/Asians. If they want to be Christian they must have their own churches.

    The West is made up of Caucasian/European peoples. If you cannot see the difference between Caucasians, Asians, blacks, add poor eyesight to your IQ deficiencies.

    Here are concrete examples of where philosophical Christianity does not work for Asians/blacks.

    Which country is better: RCC Philippines or Shinto/Budhhist Japan?
    RCC Haiti or Protestant Iceland?
    RCC El Salvador or WASP USA?

    (((Sam Schama))) has not answered my questions. He can’t deal philosophically with my questions.

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    Oh, Sam will answer, don't you worry!

    You don't need to be so feisty; just argue your points patiently and politely. Art does not deserve your insult about low IQ.
    , @Art

    I have consistently stated that the West is best. Christianity is the best religion for Westerners. It does not work for blacks/Asians. If they want to be Christian they must have their own churches.
     
    Your manic obsession with the superiority of “White Anglo-Saxon Protestant” is wrong and misplaced. They are the weakest part of Christianity – they roll over for the Jew Matrix. They are totally fearful of even saying “Jew.”

    Get a life man --- all the great NE Anglo-Saxon protestant universities are controlled by the Jews. The great old line American corporations are controlled by Jew Wall Street. Those are relevant FACTS.

    Besides all that - you are a joke of a Christian – remember “love your neighbor” – you show us ZERO of that.

    Peace --- Art

  183. helena says:
    @attilathehen
    "Philosophical Christianity" requires IQ. Your IQ and reading/comprehension skills are low.

    I have consistently stated that the West is best. Christianity is the best religion for Westerners. It does not work for blacks/Asians. If they want to be Christian they must have their own churches.

    The West is made up of Caucasian/European peoples. If you cannot see the difference between Caucasians, Asians, blacks, add poor eyesight to your IQ deficiencies.

    Here are concrete examples of where philosophical Christianity does not work for Asians/blacks.

    Which country is better: RCC Philippines or Shinto/Budhhist Japan?
    RCC Haiti or Protestant Iceland?
    RCC El Salvador or WASP USA?

    (((Sam Schama))) has not answered my questions. He can't deal philosophically with my questions.

    Oh, Sam will answer, don’t you worry!

    You don’t need to be so feisty; just argue your points patiently and politely. Art does not deserve your insult about low IQ.

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    Sam has not answered me. He is communicating with Talha. That's a historical pattern. Your comment, no. 202 was very good. Art has responded and I will respond to him.
  184. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    ”with apologies to those German Nazis who at least were ethnically cleansing people out of their own lands,”

    If you dont want somebody in your lands, you politely ask them to leave and also allow them to take their belongings, money etc and give them enough time to leave. You dont ‘ethnically ‘cleanse’ them.

    Also why did nazis want to ethnically cleanse slavs, who were in their own lands?

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  185. Sam Shama says:
    @attilathehen
    You did not answer my questions. Typical of a "Jew." Evasiveness is typical of the Jewish mind. Directness is not liked.

    I stated before IQ is my starting point for everything.

    Here's another question: (((Marc Zuckerberg))) married Priscilla Chan a Chinese Buddhist. Is she a shiksa?

    Sorry, I’ve been busier than usual, thus the short replies. Consider me now, properly informed regarding things typical of the Jewish mind.

    Your position, one which asserts IQ to be the most important determinant of earthly success, Western culture the epitome of cultures, places you, a white woman (where do you live, and what is your ethnicity?), on a perch of high altitude. You also wish Jews and others to leave Western nations. Have I got it right?

    Now, about IQ; I’ve read the literature and taken a few tests [as an aside I took those tests in my 20s and I am confident while they measure a person's ability for abstract reasoning, mathematical acuity, and pattern recognition, they are utterly useless at predicting most things which matter in life, on the average].

    The received “science” has North East Asians, followed by Nordic Europeans, as possessing the highest group averages among large populations (105, 100 respectively). Ashkenazi Jews and Indian Brahmins, if one were to drill down to smaller sub-groups [ref. Anatoly Karlin] exceed the NE Asian and Nordic averages by at least one standard deviation. So what are we to conclude? Very little, I should think.

    On Western culture; Well, that’s rather a broad subject, and culture is not static. If one were to accept as I do, Hellenic culture and philosophy as seminal to the West, it still begs the obvious, which is, seminal does not imply permanent. Still, many of us wish to preserve things rather important for ourselves in our own corners of the world. Quaint for others, important for us. For example, I don’t sense the use of understatement to make a point to be quite your style. Which leaves one wondering how on earth Lady Thatcher could possibly be a heroine for you.

    Are we The Chosen? Yes, G’d chose to give us the Torah. That is the theological claim. Nothing more. I strongly believe in the primacy of individual responsibility and work, which supersedes all else.

    What concerns you about Zuckerberg’s matrimony? Why is it is important to you? Is Priscilla a ‘Shiksa’? Perhaps a hundred years ago someone might’ve called her that, just as some today might call a rude woman a Minger.

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    You also wish Jews and others to leave Western nations.
     
    The Son of Mary (pbuh), on his return; "I have come to guide and lead the nations..."

    Response; "No thanks Jew-boy, now leave!"

    LOL! Heretics, aren't we all?

    Peace.
    , @Art
    Again, to funny – a Jew Matrix man and his principle beast of burden an Anglo WASP (Attila the Hen), are having a tribal spat. The Anglo who once was on the top of the human heap – does not realize his current status in relation to the Matrix. And he is being very nasty about it.

    He does not realize that Jew bankers control his Anglo nation. This poor Anglo does not get it, that his people are virtual monetary serfs to the Jews.

    Attila the Hen does his best to hide behind Jesus Christ, but his manic abnormal tribalness just bursts out of his words. Poor fella.

    Peace --- Art
    , @attilathehen
    The received “science” ... First, the world "Westernizes," it never "Easternizes." Almost everything of importance (99.9%) in world history took place in the West.

    There were never many Ashkenazi Jews. Read Ricardo Duchesne The Uniqueness of Western Civilization. Jews/Asians had nothing to do with Western civilization (which consists of European/Causcasian peoples). The few Indian Brahmins left are those who resisted miscegenation with Asians. Ancient Indian was invaded by Aryans who mixed with the native Asian/aborigine population. Today the average Indian IQ is 82. The ancient Egyptians were Caucasians. What destroyed them? Mixing with blacks. Today the average Egyptian IQ is 81. An easy way to gauge IQ is: the darker the skin, the lower the IQ. Most Asians are dark-skinned. Egypt and India are hellholes today.

    Yes, God gave the ancient Israelites the Torah, but the covenant and chosen people status ended because of the the degeneracy of the ancient Israelites. God chose a new people, the gentiles for his new covenant. Ruth, David's great-grandmother, was the grafting of the gentiles. You can't claim anything "Jewy" because you are no longer linked to the ancient Hebrews. Shlomo Sand said today's Israel is invented.
    Today's "Jews" are not the same Israelites of the Old Testament. For today's Zionism, I blame the RCC/Zioevangizers for the problems Jews cause in the West. They believe today's Jews are a link to the past. No that link was broken in 33 A.D.

    Today's Jews have high intermarriage rates with blacks/Asians. Here are 2 youtubes dealing with this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPILYQ3Z0Mo
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY0FOPa-j-E This is why I asked about P. Chan being a shiksa. Woody Allen, Philip Roth had shiksa problems. Although now that Woody Allen married an Asian (Korean) he no longer conflicted. And the term shiksa was not applied to his wife either.

    The reason for today's Jewry and Israel is because Freemasons, Zioevangizers and now the RCC, believe that if the temple is rebuilt, either Jesus will come back or they will be able to rule the world. Satan tempted Jesus as they looked over Jerusalem. The rebuilding will never happen.

    Jews/Asians do not belong in the West. Today, more than 1/2 of world "Jewry" lives in Israel. I am a supporter of Israel because this way "Jews" (or people who "believe" they are such) have a place to go to.

    But again, even though a website like Stormfront or Daily Stormer will always blame the Jews, I first blame the RCC/Zioevangizers. Dealing with these 2 entities and the Freemasons, is the first and best way to solve the West's problems.

  186. Talha says:
    @Sam Shama
    Sorry, I've been busier than usual, thus the short replies. Consider me now, properly informed regarding things typical of the Jewish mind.

    Your position, one which asserts IQ to be the most important determinant of earthly success, Western culture the epitome of cultures, places you, a white woman (where do you live, and what is your ethnicity?), on a perch of high altitude. You also wish Jews and others to leave Western nations. Have I got it right?

    Now, about IQ; I've read the literature and taken a few tests [as an aside I took those tests in my 20s and I am confident while they measure a person's ability for abstract reasoning, mathematical acuity, and pattern recognition, they are utterly useless at predicting most things which matter in life, on the average].

    The received "science" has North East Asians, followed by Nordic Europeans, as possessing the highest group averages among large populations (105, 100 respectively). Ashkenazi Jews and Indian Brahmins, if one were to drill down to smaller sub-groups [ref. Anatoly Karlin] exceed the NE Asian and Nordic averages by at least one standard deviation. So what are we to conclude? Very little, I should think.

    On Western culture; Well, that's rather a broad subject, and culture is not static. If one were to accept as I do, Hellenic culture and philosophy as seminal to the West, it still begs the obvious, which is, seminal does not imply permanent. Still, many of us wish to preserve things rather important for ourselves in our own corners of the world. Quaint for others, important for us. For example, I don't sense the use of understatement to make a point to be quite your style. Which leaves one wondering how on earth Lady Thatcher could possibly be a heroine for you.

    Are we The Chosen? Yes, G'd chose to give us the Torah. That is the theological claim. Nothing more. I strongly believe in the primacy of individual responsibility and work, which supersedes all else.

    What concerns you about Zuckerberg's matrimony? Why is it is important to you? Is Priscilla a 'Shiksa'? Perhaps a hundred years ago someone might've called her that, just as some today might call a rude woman a Minger.

    You also wish Jews and others to leave Western nations.

    The Son of Mary (pbuh), on his return; “I have come to guide and lead the nations…”

    Response; “No thanks Jew-boy, now leave!”

    LOL! Heretics, aren’t we all?

    Peace.

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    Response; “No thanks Jew-boy, now leave!”

    LOL! Heretics, aren’t we all?
     
    Hey Talha,
    I am sure Ms. Hen hasn't thought through that heresy of her position and the quandary it presents. I've noticed for some of these WN/supremacists when they find themselves faced with that very quandary (of potential heresy), they quietly regress some millennia and resort to calling themselves Pagans. Valhalla apparently awaits. As does blood-eagling for the guilty.

    I've just had a bit of time to go over these exchanges and the article itself. I wonder what Israel's motivation was when penning this piece. Is it to cast Jews in the usual dim light? Does Israel think most Jews even know what's written in the Midrash Talpiot?

    Unless of course, it was click bait for the UR crowd.
  187. Talha says:
    @Talha
    Even the Muslims in Bogota, Columbia are protesting:
    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1552303621488013&substory_index=0&id=125755470809509

    For those who want to understand the layout of the compound from a Muslim perspective:
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFQ5lynXgAAf2XS.jpg

    And this is good news:
    http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.802263

    Israeli police: “Disperse!”

    Palestinian guy: “Let me wrap up my two rakahs yo!”

    LOL! MashaAllah – may their spirit endure!

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  188. Art says:
    @attilathehen
    "Philosophical Christianity" requires IQ. Your IQ and reading/comprehension skills are low.

    I have consistently stated that the West is best. Christianity is the best religion for Westerners. It does not work for blacks/Asians. If they want to be Christian they must have their own churches.

    The West is made up of Caucasian/European peoples. If you cannot see the difference between Caucasians, Asians, blacks, add poor eyesight to your IQ deficiencies.

    Here are concrete examples of where philosophical Christianity does not work for Asians/blacks.

    Which country is better: RCC Philippines or Shinto/Budhhist Japan?
    RCC Haiti or Protestant Iceland?
    RCC El Salvador or WASP USA?

    (((Sam Schama))) has not answered my questions. He can't deal philosophically with my questions.

    I have consistently stated that the West is best. Christianity is the best religion for Westerners. It does not work for blacks/Asians. If they want to be Christian they must have their own churches.

    Your manic obsession with the superiority of “White Anglo-Saxon Protestant” is wrong and misplaced. They are the weakest part of Christianity – they roll over for the Jew Matrix. They are totally fearful of even saying “Jew.”

    Get a life man — all the great NE Anglo-Saxon protestant universities are controlled by the Jews. The great old line American corporations are controlled by Jew Wall Street. Those are relevant FACTS.

    Besides all that – you are a joke of a Christian – remember “love your neighbor” – you show us ZERO of that.

    Peace — Art

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    Art, I am a cradle RCCer. My family as been RCC for hundreds of years. But I grew up with Protestants. The old line churches, Anglo-Catholic, Presbyterian, Episcopalian were not Ziochurches. It is the Southern Baptists who came up with this nonsense. But fortunately the SBC will be ending. Russell Moore, the president, approved a resolution condemning the alt-right. It was proposed by a black preacher.

    You have to distinguish between biology and beliefs. Christianity, Islam, are beliefs. Today's "Jews" are a miscegenated, meshuggah melange who are a side note.

    I left the RCC because I don't accept black/Asian priests-popes. Biology is now in direct conflict with beliefs. I am still a Christian because as a Western woman it is the best belief system for me. I have never advocated killing others. I just state logically that "universal brotherhood" and "universal church" are the 2 most evil oxymoronic beliefs that are destroying the West.

    The RCC today is a homosexual, Freemasonic, multi-culti grand lodge. The Jews did not cause these problems. Why is Wall Street controlled? Because Caucasian cuck RCC/Zioevangizer males do not speak up. Right now there are some degenerate "traditional RCC" websites who are trying to restore the RCC. One, "Churchmilitant" is run by a negrophiliac, "ex-homo" who reverted because of "mommy issues." His mantra is that man have to man up and take back the RCC. But he never specifies the type of "man." White men, black men, little green men from Mars? These are questions that have to be answered. I don't recall calling anyone bad names. I know I've called some commentators cucks. But that's not a bad description, just an accurate description of who they are.

    You will know the truth and the truth will set you free.

  189. Art says:
    @Sam Shama
    Sorry, I've been busier than usual, thus the short replies. Consider me now, properly informed regarding things typical of the Jewish mind.

    Your position, one which asserts IQ to be the most important determinant of earthly success, Western culture the epitome of cultures, places you, a white woman (where do you live, and what is your ethnicity?), on a perch of high altitude. You also wish Jews and others to leave Western nations. Have I got it right?

    Now, about IQ; I've read the literature and taken a few tests [as an aside I took those tests in my 20s and I am confident while they measure a person's ability for abstract reasoning, mathematical acuity, and pattern recognition, they are utterly useless at predicting most things which matter in life, on the average].

    The received "science" has North East Asians, followed by Nordic Europeans, as possessing the highest group averages among large populations (105, 100 respectively). Ashkenazi Jews and Indian Brahmins, if one were to drill down to smaller sub-groups [ref. Anatoly Karlin] exceed the NE Asian and Nordic averages by at least one standard deviation. So what are we to conclude? Very little, I should think.

    On Western culture; Well, that's rather a broad subject, and culture is not static. If one were to accept as I do, Hellenic culture and philosophy as seminal to the West, it still begs the obvious, which is, seminal does not imply permanent. Still, many of us wish to preserve things rather important for ourselves in our own corners of the world. Quaint for others, important for us. For example, I don't sense the use of understatement to make a point to be quite your style. Which leaves one wondering how on earth Lady Thatcher could possibly be a heroine for you.

    Are we The Chosen? Yes, G'd chose to give us the Torah. That is the theological claim. Nothing more. I strongly believe in the primacy of individual responsibility and work, which supersedes all else.

    What concerns you about Zuckerberg's matrimony? Why is it is important to you? Is Priscilla a 'Shiksa'? Perhaps a hundred years ago someone might've called her that, just as some today might call a rude woman a Minger.

    Again, to funny – a Jew Matrix man and his principle beast of burden an Anglo WASP (Attila the Hen), are having a tribal spat. The Anglo who once was on the top of the human heap – does not realize his current status in relation to the Matrix. And he is being very nasty about it.

    He does not realize that Jew bankers control his Anglo nation. This poor Anglo does not get it, that his people are virtual monetary serfs to the Jews.

    Attila the Hen does his best to hide behind Jesus Christ, but his manic abnormal tribalness just bursts out of his words. Poor fella.

    Peace — Art

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  190. @Sam Shama
    Sorry, I've been busier than usual, thus the short replies. Consider me now, properly informed regarding things typical of the Jewish mind.

    Your position, one which asserts IQ to be the most important determinant of earthly success, Western culture the epitome of cultures, places you, a white woman (where do you live, and what is your ethnicity?), on a perch of high altitude. You also wish Jews and others to leave Western nations. Have I got it right?

    Now, about IQ; I've read the literature and taken a few tests [as an aside I took those tests in my 20s and I am confident while they measure a person's ability for abstract reasoning, mathematical acuity, and pattern recognition, they are utterly useless at predicting most things which matter in life, on the average].

    The received "science" has North East Asians, followed by Nordic Europeans, as possessing the highest group averages among large populations (105, 100 respectively). Ashkenazi Jews and Indian Brahmins, if one were to drill down to smaller sub-groups [ref. Anatoly Karlin] exceed the NE Asian and Nordic averages by at least one standard deviation. So what are we to conclude? Very little, I should think.

    On Western culture; Well, that's rather a broad subject, and culture is not static. If one were to accept as I do, Hellenic culture and philosophy as seminal to the West, it still begs the obvious, which is, seminal does not imply permanent. Still, many of us wish to preserve things rather important for ourselves in our own corners of the world. Quaint for others, important for us. For example, I don't sense the use of understatement to make a point to be quite your style. Which leaves one wondering how on earth Lady Thatcher could possibly be a heroine for you.

    Are we The Chosen? Yes, G'd chose to give us the Torah. That is the theological claim. Nothing more. I strongly believe in the primacy of individual responsibility and work, which supersedes all else.

    What concerns you about Zuckerberg's matrimony? Why is it is important to you? Is Priscilla a 'Shiksa'? Perhaps a hundred years ago someone might've called her that, just as some today might call a rude woman a Minger.

    The received “science” … First, the world “Westernizes,” it never “Easternizes.” Almost everything of importance (99.9%) in world history took place in the West.

    There were never many Ashkenazi Jews. Read Ricardo Duchesne The Uniqueness of Western Civilization. Jews/Asians had nothing to do with Western civilization (which consists of European/Causcasian peoples). The few Indian Brahmins left are those who resisted miscegenation with Asians. Ancient Indian was invaded by Aryans who mixed with the native Asian/aborigine population. Today the average Indian IQ is 82. The ancient Egyptians were Caucasians. What destroyed them? Mixing with blacks. Today the average Egyptian IQ is 81. An easy way to gauge IQ is: the darker the skin, the lower the IQ. Most Asians are dark-skinned. Egypt and India are hellholes today.

    Yes, God gave the ancient Israelites the Torah, but the covenant and chosen people status ended because of the the degeneracy of the ancient Israelites. God chose a new people, the gentiles for his new covenant. Ruth, David’s great-grandmother, was the grafting of the gentiles. You can’t claim anything “Jewy” because you are no longer linked to the ancient Hebrews. Shlomo Sand said today’s Israel is invented.
    Today’s “Jews” are not the same Israelites of the Old Testament. For today’s Zionism, I blame the RCC/Zioevangizers for the problems Jews cause in the West. They believe today’s Jews are a link to the past. No that link was broken in 33 A.D.

    Today’s Jews have high intermarriage rates with blacks/Asians. Here are 2 youtubes dealing with this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPILYQ3Z0Mo
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY0FOPa-j-E This is why I asked about P. Chan being a shiksa. Woody Allen, Philip Roth had shiksa problems. Although now that Woody Allen married an Asian (Korean) he no longer conflicted. And the term shiksa was not applied to his wife either.

    The reason for today’s Jewry and Israel is because Freemasons, Zioevangizers and now the RCC, believe that if the temple is rebuilt, either Jesus will come back or they will be able to rule the world. Satan tempted Jesus as they looked over Jerusalem. The rebuilding will never happen.

    Jews/Asians do not belong in the West. Today, more than 1/2 of world “Jewry” lives in Israel. I am a supporter of Israel because this way “Jews” (or people who “believe” they are such) have a place to go to.

    But again, even though a website like Stormfront or Daily Stormer will always blame the Jews, I first blame the RCC/Zioevangizers. Dealing with these 2 entities and the Freemasons, is the first and best way to solve the West’s problems.

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    ''The few Indian Brahmins left are those who resisted miscegenation with Asians. Ancient Indian was invaded by Aryans who mixed with the native Asian/aborigine population. ''

    One good way to continue ensuring your credibility and standing is to not talk about stuff you dont know fully about. First they are many holes in the 'aryan-invasion' theory itself. It is not fully credible. Second there are many backward caste people who are fair skinned than many brahmins. There are dark-skinned brahmins also and fair skinned lower caste people also. Third before the so-called 'aryans' allegedly went into india there existed a civilisation in india called the indus-valley civilisation which was just as sophisticated as egypt and sumer which too also existed much before the so-called fair skinned aryans allegedly went into those places.

  191. Sam Shama says:
    @Talha

    You also wish Jews and others to leave Western nations.
     
    The Son of Mary (pbuh), on his return; "I have come to guide and lead the nations..."

    Response; "No thanks Jew-boy, now leave!"

    LOL! Heretics, aren't we all?

    Peace.

    Response; “No thanks Jew-boy, now leave!”

    LOL! Heretics, aren’t we all?

    Hey Talha,
    I am sure Ms. Hen hasn’t thought through that heresy of her position and the quandary it presents. I’ve noticed for some of these WN/supremacists when they find themselves faced with that very quandary (of potential heresy), they quietly regress some millennia and resort to calling themselves Pagans. Valhalla apparently awaits. As does blood-eagling for the guilty.

    I’ve just had a bit of time to go over these exchanges and the article itself. I wonder what Israel’s motivation was when penning this piece. Is it to cast Jews in the usual dim light? Does Israel think most Jews even know what’s written in the Midrash Talpiot?

    Unless of course, it was click bait for the UR crowd.

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    Israel’s motivation was
     
    Indeed, Sam! Isn"t it entertaining for readers and therapeutic for the Jews to leave their state of denial? Most Jews indeed do not know anything but remember the man who spoke prose all his life without being aware of that. We do not hesitate to remind people of their forefathers' faults - Germans, Russians, Brits, even Cook Islanders (they ate Cook), but Jews claim on being unique victim among the rogues is not good for their mental health.
    , @Talha
    Hey Sam,

    The cognitive dissonance in the positions of certain people are enough to make my head spin. No problem though, everyone is entitled to their opinion.


    resort to calling themselves Pagans
     
    I was conversing with another Muslim brother who reads UNZ about it. The rise of this phenomena in Europe is fairly deplorable as far as I'm concerned. The reason being that it is not a very sincere religion, it is opportunistic and cynical at its core. Sure, the pagans of the past actually believed sincerely in their anthropomorphic deities and for that I give them credit. They sacrificed their possessions, held festivals in their honor, made monuments to them, they would even sacrifice people, etc. They were "real" to those people in their daily experience. Which brings about an issue as a famous Greek observed:

    “The Ethiops say that their gods are flat-nosed and black,
    While the Thracians say that theirs have blue eyes and red hair.
    Yet if cattle or horses or lions had hands and could draw,
    And could sculpt like men, then the horses would draw their gods
    Like horses, and cattle like cattle; and each they would shape
    Bodies of gods in the likeness, each kind, of their own.” - Xeophanes

    A very "practical" religion, that. The gods conveniently look like oneself - it is the deification of the self-image. I suppose Zeus and Odin could settle it out in a steel cage match. Mithra - as a neutral observer - could be referee or manage one or the other champion to figure out who represents Team Europe. How is it settled? Twitter war? Thumb-wrestling? The Celtic gods can't play in the majors yet. The poor Irish have never had a fair shake:
    https://www.amazon.com/Irish-Became-White-Routledge-Classics/dp/0415963095

    Details aside, the Europeans who take on this neo-paganism - do they actually believe that there is an ontological reality to Thor and Odin? My community just collected a couple of million dollars to start up a mosque/khanqah. We sacrificed hundreds of dollars of our own wealth and much of our time to build a foundation for worship for us and future generations because this is real for us. Will we see them collecting to raise up pagan monuments that rival the Gothic cathedrals? Is this real for them? Or is it just fun to wear leather jackets with "Hammers of Thor" emblazoned on them and go beat up a 5% minority population? I guess that's more manly than wearing jackets with Barney the Dinosaur and his magic sandwich (though they have the same ontological reality). Medieval LARP time! And then what happens after darkie is gone?

    Does Odin make any demands of them, or is he at their beck and call when they need him to help liquidate the darkies - and then...back to the "friend zone" for a few centuries? A god that serves you - how convenient! Do they cry to him at night with their problems? Will they name their sons "Abdul-Odin"?

    Reminds me of the story related by the second caliph, Umar ibn al-Khattab (ra), about his old-school pagan-Arab days. Some of his friends heard him laughing and asked why, so he related something he was remembering from the past:
    "I remember that in the days of Jahiliyyah, I used to have this idol made of dates. One day, I became so hungry that I ate it."

    LOL - I guess one can't say the Arab gods didn't provide sustenance to their petitioners.

    My advice to the Muslims in Europe would be - if Europe does indeed become the bastion of neo-paganism, then they should leave voluntarily and fast. I do not know what God would do to a people that would revert to an insincere paganism after He granted them the gift of monotheism - it's His world after all. But I wouldn't take my chances being anywhere remotely close to where they are standing.

    Peace.

    , @attilathehen
    "Jews"/Muslims -- both sides of the same worthless coin.
  192. @Art

    I have consistently stated that the West is best. Christianity is the best religion for Westerners. It does not work for blacks/Asians. If they want to be Christian they must have their own churches.
     
    Your manic obsession with the superiority of “White Anglo-Saxon Protestant” is wrong and misplaced. They are the weakest part of Christianity – they roll over for the Jew Matrix. They are totally fearful of even saying “Jew.”

    Get a life man --- all the great NE Anglo-Saxon protestant universities are controlled by the Jews. The great old line American corporations are controlled by Jew Wall Street. Those are relevant FACTS.

    Besides all that - you are a joke of a Christian – remember “love your neighbor” – you show us ZERO of that.

    Peace --- Art

    Art, I am a cradle RCCer. My family as been RCC for hundreds of years. But I grew up with Protestants. The old line churches, Anglo-Catholic, Presbyterian, Episcopalian were not Ziochurches. It is the Southern Baptists who came up with this nonsense. But fortunately the SBC will be ending. Russell Moore, the president, approved a resolution condemning the alt-right. It was proposed by a black preacher.

    You have to distinguish between biology and beliefs. Christianity, Islam, are beliefs. Today’s “Jews” are a miscegenated, meshuggah melange who are a side note.

    I left the RCC because I don’t accept black/Asian priests-popes. Biology is now in direct conflict with beliefs. I am still a Christian because as a Western woman it is the best belief system for me. I have never advocated killing others. I just state logically that “universal brotherhood” and “universal church” are the 2 most evil oxymoronic beliefs that are destroying the West.

    The RCC today is a homosexual, Freemasonic, multi-culti grand lodge. The Jews did not cause these problems. Why is Wall Street controlled? Because Caucasian cuck RCC/Zioevangizer males do not speak up. Right now there are some degenerate “traditional RCC” websites who are trying to restore the RCC. One, “Churchmilitant” is run by a negrophiliac, “ex-homo” who reverted because of “mommy issues.” His mantra is that man have to man up and take back the RCC. But he never specifies the type of “man.” White men, black men, little green men from Mars? These are questions that have to be answered. I don’t recall calling anyone bad names. I know I’ve called some commentators cucks. But that’s not a bad description, just an accurate description of who they are.

    You will know the truth and the truth will set you free.

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    attilathehen,

    Two interesting and revealing comments to the Jew Matrix man and myself. You are an intelligent person – but somehow, anger has the best of you.

    I agree that most practical knowledge has been fostered by the Christian West. I agree that the Israel loving, John Hagee southern Christian is a real problem. I agree that RCC exclusivity is wrong.

    I think you are 100% wrong about the Jew Matrix menace. Jews champion dishonesty and social chaos. The Jew monetary system of interest and debt has taken over Western society.

    I do not agree that only the smartest of people are of value – good peaceful honest people can be found anywhere on the intelligence spectrum. Building a just forward-looking society is what Christianity does best. It does it because of its idealistic philosophy for living – not its exclusive connection to the god of the universe. Anyone can be a philosophical Christian. All races can be good Christians together.

    Again, I say that philosophical knowledge trump genetics. Archimedes “law of the lever” is used by most all societies. Knowledge is universal – not tied to genetics. Some philosophies are better than others at producing better tomorrows. Actually, many of your comments are about diverse groups with different philosophies – not about different genetics.

    You quote Jesus – “You will know the truth and the truth will set you free.”

    “The truth” is cultural knowledge – NOT genetics.

    Peace --- Art
  193. @Bliss

    Kabbalah while invented in Spain eventually became popular among Ashkenazi Jews.
     
    It was invented in Spain (by Moses de Leon) during Muslim Arab/Berber rule. And it was not invented out of thin air. It was inspired by the Sufism of that era whose most famous exponent was Ibn Arabi who preceded the author of the Zohar.

    As far as I know, de Leon didn’t live under Muslim rule. He was born in Leon, and died in Avila; both became Christian 200 years before his birth. He could be inspired by Sufism via Christian gnostics.

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    As far as I know, de Leon didn’t live under Muslim rule. He was born in Leon, and died in Avila; both became Christian 200 years before his birth. He could be inspired by Sufism via Christian gnostics.
     
    Thanks for correcting me. I was a bit lazy in my research.

    Gnosticism was considered a heresy by the Catholic Church. The Cathar Crusade wiped out Gnosticism in Christendom in the early 13th century shortly before Moses de Leon was born (which was the same year Ibn Arabi died).

    The point remains: Kabbalah was not created ex nihilo. Neither was Sufism. Nor was Gnosticism. They are all attempts to reconcile spirituality with middle-eastern religions.

    Besides Ibn-Arabi, Muslim Spain also gave birth to Ibn Rushd who tried to reconcile Aristotelian Philosophy with Islam. Both Maimonides and Aquinas were inspired by Ibn Rushd aka Averroes to try the same with their religions, Judaism and Catholicism respectively.

    These attempts to reconcile the Bible and the Koran with philosophy or spirituality were futile, being false...

  194. pensword says:
    @ddd
    Sorry, but pulling out a few passages from the Talmud (which is huge and notoriously difficult to interpret), doesn't really say anything. Sorry, but the luminous intellects of unz.com are not up to the task of interpreting ancient texts.

    You could find equivalent passages in Greek (Aristotle and his treatment of barbarians), Sanskrit (look at the laws of Manu and how they deal with people outside the caste system), Chinese (middle kingdom - enough said), Arabic, or Christian theology.

    People like to think they're special, and that their group and nation is special. This isn't really news.

    People like to think they’re special, and that their group and nation is special. This isn’t really news.

    1. In zionism, such a disposition bears the imprimatur of religious truth.
    2. Zionists control American government.

    Not news, but these distinctions provide a weight to Mr. Shamir’s exposition that dwarfs your blithe dismissal thereof.

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  195. pensword says:
    @Bliss

    This is how the Israeli side is reporting it:
    “Should Israel use the unexpected opportunity to take back control of the Temple Mount, the significance and implications would be beyond imagining. The Mount has not been under lasting Jewish control for thousands of years. If Israel succeeds in regaining sovereignty, it will be a triumph worthy of two millennia of Jewish prayer and longing, not to mention an unprecedented opportunity to begin reconstruction of the Mount and Temple as they were in Biblical days.”
     
    I just don’t see how any objective observer can conclude that muslims have a better claim to the site of the Jewish temple than the jews.

    I just don’t see how any objective observer can conclude that muslims have a better claim to the site of the Jewish temple than the jews.

    As a self-professed “objective observer,” you might like to know that any Jewish claim to the Temple Mount is as solid as a house of cards in a Category 5 hurricane:

    https://www.washingtonreport.me/2011-august/misunderstandings-about-jerusalem-s-temple-mount.html

    In biblical times the Haram was not a sacred place. Instead it was the place that Orthodox Jews considered defiled and the most despised place in the world. Within these walls were found no remnants of any of the earlier temples but rather an image of Mars, the Roman god of war. The 1st century Jewish Roman historian Titus Flavius Josephus said the Romans always kept a whole legion of soldiers (5,000-6,000) there, and that there were stones in its walls that were 30 feet long, 15 feet thick, and 71/2 feet high. While excavating the area, Mazar found these very stones there in the Haram—not in the temple.

    Enjoy.

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  196. Art says:
    @attilathehen
    Art, I am a cradle RCCer. My family as been RCC for hundreds of years. But I grew up with Protestants. The old line churches, Anglo-Catholic, Presbyterian, Episcopalian were not Ziochurches. It is the Southern Baptists who came up with this nonsense. But fortunately the SBC will be ending. Russell Moore, the president, approved a resolution condemning the alt-right. It was proposed by a black preacher.

    You have to distinguish between biology and beliefs. Christianity, Islam, are beliefs. Today's "Jews" are a miscegenated, meshuggah melange who are a side note.

    I left the RCC because I don't accept black/Asian priests-popes. Biology is now in direct conflict with beliefs. I am still a Christian because as a Western woman it is the best belief system for me. I have never advocated killing others. I just state logically that "universal brotherhood" and "universal church" are the 2 most evil oxymoronic beliefs that are destroying the West.

    The RCC today is a homosexual, Freemasonic, multi-culti grand lodge. The Jews did not cause these problems. Why is Wall Street controlled? Because Caucasian cuck RCC/Zioevangizer males do not speak up. Right now there are some degenerate "traditional RCC" websites who are trying to restore the RCC. One, "Churchmilitant" is run by a negrophiliac, "ex-homo" who reverted because of "mommy issues." His mantra is that man have to man up and take back the RCC. But he never specifies the type of "man." White men, black men, little green men from Mars? These are questions that have to be answered. I don't recall calling anyone bad names. I know I've called some commentators cucks. But that's not a bad description, just an accurate description of who they are.

    You will know the truth and the truth will set you free.

    attilathehen,

    Two interesting and revealing comments to the Jew Matrix man and myself. You are an intelligent person – but somehow, anger has the best of you.

    I agree that most practical knowledge has been fostered by the Christian West. I agree that the Israel loving, John Hagee southern Christian is a real problem. I agree that RCC exclusivity is wrong.

    I think you are 100% wrong about the Jew Matrix menace. Jews champion dishonesty and social chaos. The Jew monetary system of interest and debt has taken over Western society.

    I do not agree that only the smartest of people are of value – good peaceful honest people can be found anywhere on the intelligence spectrum. Building a just forward-looking society is what Christianity does best. It does it because of its idealistic philosophy for living – not its exclusive connection to the god of the universe. Anyone can be a philosophical Christian. All races can be good Christians together.

    Again, I say that philosophical knowledge trump genetics. Archimedes “law of the lever” is used by most all societies. Knowledge is universal – not tied to genetics. Some philosophies are better than others at producing better tomorrows. Actually, many of your comments are about diverse groups with different philosophies – not about different genetics.

    You quote Jesus – “You will know the truth and the truth will set you free.”

    “The truth” is cultural knowledge – NOT genetics.

    Peace — Art

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    “The truth” is cultural knowledge – NOT genetics.


    They move together in harmony or with friction. Religions correspond closely to ethnic groups.
    Where religions are overlayed onto previous belief systems, the older beliefs invariably show through.
    Humans are a longitudinal proposition as well as a lattitudinal proposition.

    , @attilathehen
    ...anger..best of me...this makes me giggle. It reminds of when men say women look sexy when they're angry. I am not angry. Nor did I suffer a "childhood trauma..troubled" as annamaria asked. I deal with facts. I'm going to throw alot of stuff out there for you to think about.

    You say "The Jew monetary system of interest and debt has taken over Western society." This is because Westerners have allowed this to happen. There is nothing wrong with charging interest for a loan. There is an RCC convert, Ann Barnhardt who has produced several interesting youtubes about usury and Islam. Just a caveat - she is a fantatical RCCer who will never deal with the IQ/race issues. But I will attach a youtube about usury. She says that whenever people talk about non-interest loans (Marxists, socialists, Muslims) they are really just trying to blame the Jewish bankers for their problems. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCs1FNCuzF4&feature=youtu.be&t=4m43s
    She also has very good youtubes about the banking crisis of 2007.

    Next, you really believe in "universal brotherhood." This is an evil, oxymoron. Of course all peoples of the world should get along. Christianity is the best religion for all people. But, again, as I listed countries that are Christian/not Christian, some non-Christian countries were better, i.e., Japan. Also, different peoples have their own countries. If they are not Western or cannot assimilate to the West, i.e., blacks/Asians, they do not belong in the West. They have their own countries.

    We have to define "smart people." Anyone with an IQ of 90+, is good for a country. Of course, the West will take care of its own people who are lower in terms of IQ by providing safe, clean countries for them to live in. But again, these are Caucasians, Europeans. The West has no responsibility for blacks/Asians of any IQ level.

    You say I mention diverse peoples. Yes, but I also say they are not compatible with the West. You strike me as someone who believes in MLK, Jr.'s nightmarish "I have dream" speech.

    You keep talking about "philosophical Christianity." You sound like (((Stefan Molyneux))) - yes, his mother was a German Jewess who fled Hitler's Germany as a child. He believes philosophy is the answer to world problems. In order to "philosophize" you need a people capable of such thinking. Only the West has produced such thinkers. The most important people in the West are Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Jesus, St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas. Blacks/Asians have limited analytical/critical thinking skills.

    Also, it seems like we would have to reinvent the wheel every generation. Think about this. "With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day." I can say that now I can see about 5000 years of history in a day. Construction of the Egyptian pyramids started around 2700 B.C. When Jesus was born the pyramids were ancient. There is a greater time distance between the pyramids and the birth of Jesus , than that of Jesus to the present. I read this on some website recently and this made me realize that I can do a quick overview of world history by looking at a map of world, the different countries, races and IQs and see where everyone is today. I can then make decisions as to who/what is best. And I know I am one person with only so much time and money on this planet. That is why I deal with the ultimate, objective truth: IQ. There is not enough time or money to help anyone who is not a part of my culture. The best these other people can do is realize that the West is best. And if they have enough IQ/common sense, they will try to order their nations around the best of the West.

  197. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Columnist and commentator ask wrong questions. Need to ask why Jews believe non-Jews are less than Jews. Chosen versus non-Chosen.
    The Chosen believe in their destiny. Human commentary is irrelevant to the divine message.
    Non-Jew survival requires acceptance of that position.
    Failure to accept leads to Jewish programs to immunize non-Jewish role in the world.
    Do not expect different results now when the same results have been happening for 2,000 years.

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  198. @Sam Shama

    Response; “No thanks Jew-boy, now leave!”

    LOL! Heretics, aren’t we all?
     
    Hey Talha,
    I am sure Ms. Hen hasn't thought through that heresy of her position and the quandary it presents. I've noticed for some of these WN/supremacists when they find themselves faced with that very quandary (of potential heresy), they quietly regress some millennia and resort to calling themselves Pagans. Valhalla apparently awaits. As does blood-eagling for the guilty.

    I've just had a bit of time to go over these exchanges and the article itself. I wonder what Israel's motivation was when penning this piece. Is it to cast Jews in the usual dim light? Does Israel think most Jews even know what's written in the Midrash Talpiot?

    Unless of course, it was click bait for the UR crowd.

    Israel’s motivation was

    Indeed, Sam! Isn”t it entertaining for readers and therapeutic for the Jews to leave their state of denial? Most Jews indeed do not know anything but remember the man who spoke prose all his life without being aware of that. We do not hesitate to remind people of their forefathers’ faults – Germans, Russians, Brits, even Cook Islanders (they ate Cook), but Jews claim on being unique victim among the rogues is not good for their mental health.

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    We do not hesitate to remind people of their forefathers’ faults – Germans, Russians, Brits, even Cook Islanders (they ate Cook), but Jews claim on being unique victim among the rogues is not good for their mental health.
     
    1. To whom do you refer when you write "We"?
    2. It's utter nonsense to say Jews claim unique victimhood. I claim none, as do not any of my acquaintances or friends.
    3. Speaking of mental health, it's amusing to be lectured by one so unmoored from their religious and moral roots as flit from one religion to the next in search of solace and meaning manifest in muddle-headed virtue signalling.
    , @NoseytheDuke
    This came as a surprise to me...

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/idf-chief-says-israel-is-becoming-like-nazi-germany-refuses-to-back-down/5600782
  199. helena says:
    @Art
    attilathehen,

    Two interesting and revealing comments to the Jew Matrix man and myself. You are an intelligent person – but somehow, anger has the best of you.

    I agree that most practical knowledge has been fostered by the Christian West. I agree that the Israel loving, John Hagee southern Christian is a real problem. I agree that RCC exclusivity is wrong.

    I think you are 100% wrong about the Jew Matrix menace. Jews champion dishonesty and social chaos. The Jew monetary system of interest and debt has taken over Western society.

    I do not agree that only the smartest of people are of value – good peaceful honest people can be found anywhere on the intelligence spectrum. Building a just forward-looking society is what Christianity does best. It does it because of its idealistic philosophy for living – not its exclusive connection to the god of the universe. Anyone can be a philosophical Christian. All races can be good Christians together.

    Again, I say that philosophical knowledge trump genetics. Archimedes “law of the lever” is used by most all societies. Knowledge is universal – not tied to genetics. Some philosophies are better than others at producing better tomorrows. Actually, many of your comments are about diverse groups with different philosophies – not about different genetics.

    You quote Jesus – “You will know the truth and the truth will set you free.”

    “The truth” is cultural knowledge – NOT genetics.

    Peace --- Art

    “The truth” is cultural knowledge – NOT genetics.

    They move together in harmony or with friction. Religions correspond closely to ethnic groups.
    Where religions are overlayed onto previous belief systems, the older beliefs invariably show through.
    Humans are a longitudinal proposition as well as a lattitudinal proposition.

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  200. Learning says:
    @anarchyst
    The Vatican II Ecumenical Council poisoned the Catholic Church by removing the blame for the crucifixion and execution of Jesus Christ on the jews (who took full credit for murdering Jesus Christ). Both jews and Protestants influenced the Ecumenical Council to a much greater degree than most people realize. Both groups were successful in judaising and Protestantizing the Catholic Church.
    Absolving the jews for Christ's crucifixion and execution was an egregious error.
    Fortunately, there are old-line Catholic organizations that subscribe faithfully to the pre-Vatican II Catholic faith.

    From the Catechism of the Council of Trent, Chapter, from article IV on Christ’s passion: “ Gentiles and Jews were the advisors, the authors, the ministers of his Passion….”

    Before that it says all who habitually sin crucify Christ. Christians who know Him are more responsible than Jews at that time who were mistaken about him.

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  201. Sam Shama says:
    @Israel Shamir

    Israel’s motivation was
     
    Indeed, Sam! Isn"t it entertaining for readers and therapeutic for the Jews to leave their state of denial? Most Jews indeed do not know anything but remember the man who spoke prose all his life without being aware of that. We do not hesitate to remind people of their forefathers' faults - Germans, Russians, Brits, even Cook Islanders (they ate Cook), but Jews claim on being unique victim among the rogues is not good for their mental health.

    We do not hesitate to remind people of their forefathers’ faults – Germans, Russians, Brits, even Cook Islanders (they ate Cook), but Jews claim on being unique victim among the rogues is not good for their mental health.

    1. To whom do you refer when you write “We”?
    2. It’s utter nonsense to say Jews claim unique victimhood. I claim none, as do not any of my acquaintances or friends.
    3. Speaking of mental health, it’s amusing to be lectured by one so unmoored from their religious and moral roots as flit from one religion to the next in search of solace and meaning manifest in muddle-headed virtue signalling.

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  202. Sam Shama says:
    @Sam Shama

    We do not hesitate to remind people of their forefathers’ faults – Germans, Russians, Brits, even Cook Islanders (they ate Cook), but Jews claim on being unique victim among the rogues is not good for their mental health.
     
    1. To whom do you refer when you write "We"?
    2. It's utter nonsense to say Jews claim unique victimhood. I claim none, as do not any of my acquaintances or friends.
    3. Speaking of mental health, it's amusing to be lectured by one so unmoored from their religious and moral roots as flit from one religion to the next in search of solace and meaning manifest in muddle-headed virtue signalling.

    flit –> flits

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  203. Iasi says:

    Why should the world believe Jews when they will not admit what they say about non-Jews behind the closed doors?

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  204. nickels says:
    @Sam Shama
    You've succumbed to certain temptations. Sorry if I make that accusation in haste, but saying the Talmud speaks ill of Jesus is both true and false. Mostly false, because it conceals the context. Humans are all the same, rabbis and Yehoshua included.

    To do justice to the Talmud in short metrics, as I am about to attempt, will necessarily miss the boat by a margin. Hopefully not enough to result in a watery ending. I am certainly no Talmudic scholar but I have gone through a uniform sampling of its more than six thousand pages, consisting of the Mishnah, Gemara and the Torah.

    Conceding it partially speculative - I have little knowledge regarding any heritage of systematical debates in Christianity or Islam - I submit the Talmud to be the lengthiest and broadest compendium of unbroken theological intellectualism, legal ethics, logic and lore. It is simply a revelation of the wide-ranging opinions of more than a thousand rabbis on all topics surrounding Jewish religiosity, ethics, law and life. It is thus at once fascinating, confusing, tiring, yet enlightening if the reader keeps the century and context in mind. Many early opinions are pronounced obsolete in the times which followed. It is, therefore, a most honest record of the progression of all that a people and their intellectual leadership understood, interpreted and debated.

    Taken in that context, the opprobrium heaped on a non-conformist rabbi, one who would upend the established order and all its privileges, not to mention someone who gave the populist sentiment a voice is hardly surprising.

    We live, learn and add to our common body of knowledge.

    I would highly suggest the works of Michael Hoffman at this point.

    This is a typical dodge.

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  205. Talha says:
    @Sam Shama

    Response; “No thanks Jew-boy, now leave!”

    LOL! Heretics, aren’t we all?
     
    Hey Talha,
    I am sure Ms. Hen hasn't thought through that heresy of her position and the quandary it presents. I've noticed for some of these WN/supremacists when they find themselves faced with that very quandary (of potential heresy), they quietly regress some millennia and resort to calling themselves Pagans. Valhalla apparently awaits. As does blood-eagling for the guilty.

    I've just had a bit of time to go over these exchanges and the article itself. I wonder what Israel's motivation was when penning this piece. Is it to cast Jews in the usual dim light? Does Israel think most Jews even know what's written in the Midrash Talpiot?

    Unless of course, it was click bait for the UR crowd.

    Hey Sam,

    The cognitive dissonance in the positions of certain people are enough to make my head spin. No problem though, everyone is entitled to their opinion.

    resort to calling themselves Pagans

    I was conversing with another Muslim brother who reads UNZ about it. The rise of this phenomena in Europe is fairly deplorable as far as I’m concerned. The reason being that it is not a very sincere religion, it is opportunistic and cynical at its core. Sure, the pagans of the past actually believed sincerely in their anthropomorphic deities and for that I give them credit. They sacrificed their possessions, held festivals in their honor, made monuments to them, they would even sacrifice people, etc. They were “real” to those people in their daily experience. Which brings about an issue as a famous Greek observed:

    “The Ethiops say that their gods are flat-nosed and black,
    While the Thracians say that theirs have blue eyes and red hair.
    Yet if cattle or horses or lions had hands and could draw,
    And could sculpt like men, then the horses would draw their gods
    Like horses, and cattle like cattle; and each they would shape
    Bodies of gods in the likeness, each kind, of their own.” – Xeophanes

    A very “practical” religion, that. The gods conveniently look like oneself – it is the deification of the self-image. I suppose Zeus and Odin could settle it out in a steel cage match. Mithra – as a neutral observer – could be referee or manage one or the other champion to figure out who represents Team Europe. How is it settled? Twitter war? Thumb-wrestling? The Celtic gods can’t play in the majors yet. The poor Irish have never had a fair shake:

    https://www.amazon.com/Irish-Became-White-Routledge-Classics/dp/0415963095

    Details aside, the Europeans who take on this neo-paganism – do they actually believe that there is an ontological reality to Thor and Odin? My community just collected a couple of million dollars to start up a mosque/khanqah. We sacrificed hundreds of dollars of our own wealth and much of our time to build a foundation for worship for us and future generations because this is real for us. Will we see them collecting to raise up pagan monuments that rival the Gothic cathedrals? Is this real for them? Or is it just fun to wear leather jackets with “Hammers of Thor” emblazoned on them and go beat up a 5% minority population? I guess that’s more manly than wearing jackets with Barney the Dinosaur and his magic sandwich (though they have the same ontological reality). Medieval LARP time! And then what happens after darkie is gone?

    Does Odin make any demands of them, or is he at their beck and call when they need him to help liquidate the darkies – and then…back to the “friend zone” for a few centuries? A god that serves you – how convenient! Do they cry to him at night with their problems? Will they name their sons “Abdul-Odin”?

    Reminds me of the story related by the second caliph, Umar ibn al-Khattab (ra), about his old-school pagan-Arab days. Some of his friends heard him laughing and asked why, so he related something he was remembering from the past:
    “I remember that in the days of Jahiliyyah, I used to have this idol made of dates. One day, I became so hungry that I ate it.”

    LOL – I guess one can’t say the Arab gods didn’t provide sustenance to their petitioners.

    My advice to the Muslims in Europe would be – if Europe does indeed become the bastion of neo-paganism, then they should leave voluntarily and fast. I do not know what God would do to a people that would revert to an insincere paganism after He granted them the gift of monotheism – it’s His world after all. But I wouldn’t take my chances being anywhere remotely close to where they are standing.

    Peace.

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    Well, if this is accurate to any degree:
    "The concept of immanence also prescribes a model of behavior for interaction with other human beings, expressed in the Neo-Pagan mantra, 'Thou art God' and 'Thou art Goddess'. Neo-Pagans honor the diversity of life, and eschew sexism, racism, homophobia, and other forms of intolerance."
    https://neo-paganism.com/practices-of-neo-pagans/neo-pagan-ethics-2/

    Then it seems neo-paganism is partially populated by ethnic nationalists and more so by counter-culture hippie-types that are more likely to welcome the darkies (and their gods - the more the merrier!). And no need for Zeus and Odin to slug it out - instead, we have the ultimate bromance!

    , @NoseytheDuke
    https://www.amazon.com/Pagan-Christ-Recovering-Lost-Light/dp/0802714498
    , @Anon
    Thanks for a very interesting comment, better than most of yours which is saying a lot.

    I think you have some points wrong on the psychology of paganism ancient and modern, but I won't go into them here; I probably comment more than I should on here already but even so I don't write half the things that occur to me as I read the articles or comments. By the way, do you often discuss UR articles/threads with friends and colleagues? And is UR a "thing", as they say, with a fair section of the Muslim community? I can vouch it isn't among Catholics, though of course in the US this is a far larger pool and less interested in one common topic on here.

    Anyway, I wanted to say you were right on the money about pride. Not necessarily about self-deification with the ancients at least, but certainly community-deification, connected with ancestor-worship among other things. But despite the fact that pagan societies (as a mark of sanity) condemn hubris, when pagans begin to philosophize this particular dictum seems to lack rational basis, as since the pagan gods are after all creatures their dicta are not a reasonable foundation for morality, and this hole tends to get filled with pride, especially by the Stoics and their successors, who include, oddly enough, many influenced by the Enlightenment.
  206. @Sam Shama

    Response; “No thanks Jew-boy, now leave!”

    LOL! Heretics, aren’t we all?
     
    Hey Talha,
    I am sure Ms. Hen hasn't thought through that heresy of her position and the quandary it presents. I've noticed for some of these WN/supremacists when they find themselves faced with that very quandary (of potential heresy), they quietly regress some millennia and resort to calling themselves Pagans. Valhalla apparently awaits. As does blood-eagling for the guilty.

    I've just had a bit of time to go over these exchanges and the article itself. I wonder what Israel's motivation was when penning this piece. Is it to cast Jews in the usual dim light? Does Israel think most Jews even know what's written in the Midrash Talpiot?

    Unless of course, it was click bait for the UR crowd.

    “Jews”/Muslims — both sides of the same worthless coin.

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  207. Talha says:
    @Talha
    Hey Sam,

    The cognitive dissonance in the positions of certain people are enough to make my head spin. No problem though, everyone is entitled to their opinion.


    resort to calling themselves Pagans
     
    I was conversing with another Muslim brother who reads UNZ about it. The rise of this phenomena in Europe is fairly deplorable as far as I'm concerned. The reason being that it is not a very sincere religion, it is opportunistic and cynical at its core. Sure, the pagans of the past actually believed sincerely in their anthropomorphic deities and for that I give them credit. They sacrificed their possessions, held festivals in their honor, made monuments to them, they would even sacrifice people, etc. They were "real" to those people in their daily experience. Which brings about an issue as a famous Greek observed:

    “The Ethiops say that their gods are flat-nosed and black,
    While the Thracians say that theirs have blue eyes and red hair.
    Yet if cattle or horses or lions had hands and could draw,
    And could sculpt like men, then the horses would draw their gods
    Like horses, and cattle like cattle; and each they would shape
    Bodies of gods in the likeness, each kind, of their own.” - Xeophanes

    A very "practical" religion, that. The gods conveniently look like oneself - it is the deification of the self-image. I suppose Zeus and Odin could settle it out in a steel cage match. Mithra - as a neutral observer - could be referee or manage one or the other champion to figure out who represents Team Europe. How is it settled? Twitter war? Thumb-wrestling? The Celtic gods can't play in the majors yet. The poor Irish have never had a fair shake:
    https://www.amazon.com/Irish-Became-White-Routledge-Classics/dp/0415963095

    Details aside, the Europeans who take on this neo-paganism - do they actually believe that there is an ontological reality to Thor and Odin? My community just collected a couple of million dollars to start up a mosque/khanqah. We sacrificed hundreds of dollars of our own wealth and much of our time to build a foundation for worship for us and future generations because this is real for us. Will we see them collecting to raise up pagan monuments that rival the Gothic cathedrals? Is this real for them? Or is it just fun to wear leather jackets with "Hammers of Thor" emblazoned on them and go beat up a 5% minority population? I guess that's more manly than wearing jackets with Barney the Dinosaur and his magic sandwich (though they have the same ontological reality). Medieval LARP time! And then what happens after darkie is gone?

    Does Odin make any demands of them, or is he at their beck and call when they need him to help liquidate the darkies - and then...back to the "friend zone" for a few centuries? A god that serves you - how convenient! Do they cry to him at night with their problems? Will they name their sons "Abdul-Odin"?

    Reminds me of the story related by the second caliph, Umar ibn al-Khattab (ra), about his old-school pagan-Arab days. Some of his friends heard him laughing and asked why, so he related something he was remembering from the past:
    "I remember that in the days of Jahiliyyah, I used to have this idol made of dates. One day, I became so hungry that I ate it."

    LOL - I guess one can't say the Arab gods didn't provide sustenance to their petitioners.

    My advice to the Muslims in Europe would be - if Europe does indeed become the bastion of neo-paganism, then they should leave voluntarily and fast. I do not know what God would do to a people that would revert to an insincere paganism after He granted them the gift of monotheism - it's His world after all. But I wouldn't take my chances being anywhere remotely close to where they are standing.

    Peace.

    Well, if this is accurate to any degree:
    “The concept of immanence also prescribes a model of behavior for interaction with other human beings, expressed in the Neo-Pagan mantra, ‘Thou art God’ and ‘Thou art Goddess’. Neo-Pagans honor the diversity of life, and eschew sexism, racism, homophobia, and other forms of intolerance.”

    https://neo-paganism.com/practices-of-neo-pagans/neo-pagan-ethics-2/

    Then it seems neo-paganism is partially populated by ethnic nationalists and more so by counter-culture hippie-types that are more likely to welcome the darkies (and their gods – the more the merrier!). And no need for Zeus and Odin to slug it out – instead, we have the ultimate bromance!

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  208. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @attilathehen
    The received “science” ... First, the world "Westernizes," it never "Easternizes." Almost everything of importance (99.9%) in world history took place in the West.

    There were never many Ashkenazi Jews. Read Ricardo Duchesne The Uniqueness of Western Civilization. Jews/Asians had nothing to do with Western civilization (which consists of European/Causcasian peoples). The few Indian Brahmins left are those who resisted miscegenation with Asians. Ancient Indian was invaded by Aryans who mixed with the native Asian/aborigine population. Today the average Indian IQ is 82. The ancient Egyptians were Caucasians. What destroyed them? Mixing with blacks. Today the average Egyptian IQ is 81. An easy way to gauge IQ is: the darker the skin, the lower the IQ. Most Asians are dark-skinned. Egypt and India are hellholes today.

    Yes, God gave the ancient Israelites the Torah, but the covenant and chosen people status ended because of the the degeneracy of the ancient Israelites. God chose a new people, the gentiles for his new covenant. Ruth, David's great-grandmother, was the grafting of the gentiles. You can't claim anything "Jewy" because you are no longer linked to the ancient Hebrews. Shlomo Sand said today's Israel is invented.
    Today's "Jews" are not the same Israelites of the Old Testament. For today's Zionism, I blame the RCC/Zioevangizers for the problems Jews cause in the West. They believe today's Jews are a link to the past. No that link was broken in 33 A.D.

    Today's Jews have high intermarriage rates with blacks/Asians. Here are 2 youtubes dealing with this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPILYQ3Z0Mo
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY0FOPa-j-E This is why I asked about P. Chan being a shiksa. Woody Allen, Philip Roth had shiksa problems. Although now that Woody Allen married an Asian (Korean) he no longer conflicted. And the term shiksa was not applied to his wife either.

    The reason for today's Jewry and Israel is because Freemasons, Zioevangizers and now the RCC, believe that if the temple is rebuilt, either Jesus will come back or they will be able to rule the world. Satan tempted Jesus as they looked over Jerusalem. The rebuilding will never happen.

    Jews/Asians do not belong in the West. Today, more than 1/2 of world "Jewry" lives in Israel. I am a supporter of Israel because this way "Jews" (or people who "believe" they are such) have a place to go to.

    But again, even though a website like Stormfront or Daily Stormer will always blame the Jews, I first blame the RCC/Zioevangizers. Dealing with these 2 entities and the Freemasons, is the first and best way to solve the West's problems.

    ”The few Indian Brahmins left are those who resisted miscegenation with Asians. Ancient Indian was invaded by Aryans who mixed with the native Asian/aborigine population. ”

    One good way to continue ensuring your credibility and standing is to not talk about stuff you dont know fully about. First they are many holes in the ‘aryan-invasion’ theory itself. It is not fully credible. Second there are many backward caste people who are fair skinned than many brahmins. There are dark-skinned brahmins also and fair skinned lower caste people also. Third before the so-called ‘aryans’ allegedly went into india there existed a civilisation in india called the indus-valley civilisation which was just as sophisticated as egypt and sumer which too also existed much before the so-called fair skinned aryans allegedly went into those places.

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    Good points. I am presently studying the Indian civilization and culture. But again, big picture, a great people invaded, mixed with other races (which will produce several shades of skin color) and the worst outcome was IQ loss. What caused the IQ loss? This is what is most important to find out. And one good starting point is skin color. Almost all (some exceptions) dark-skinned peoples (Asians/blacks) have low IQs. We know this is what happened to the ancient Egyptians - IQ loss from mixing with blacks.
  209. @Talha
    Hey Sam,

    The cognitive dissonance in the positions of certain people are enough to make my head spin. No problem though, everyone is entitled to their opinion.


    resort to calling themselves Pagans
     
    I was conversing with another Muslim brother who reads UNZ about it. The rise of this phenomena in Europe is fairly deplorable as far as I'm concerned. The reason being that it is not a very sincere religion, it is opportunistic and cynical at its core. Sure, the pagans of the past actually believed sincerely in their anthropomorphic deities and for that I give them credit. They sacrificed their possessions, held festivals in their honor, made monuments to them, they would even sacrifice people, etc. They were "real" to those people in their daily experience. Which brings about an issue as a famous Greek observed:

    “The Ethiops say that their gods are flat-nosed and black,
    While the Thracians say that theirs have blue eyes and red hair.
    Yet if cattle or horses or lions had hands and could draw,
    And could sculpt like men, then the horses would draw their gods
    Like horses, and cattle like cattle; and each they would shape
    Bodies of gods in the likeness, each kind, of their own.” - Xeophanes

    A very "practical" religion, that. The gods conveniently look like oneself - it is the deification of the self-image. I suppose Zeus and Odin could settle it out in a steel cage match. Mithra - as a neutral observer - could be referee or manage one or the other champion to figure out who represents Team Europe. How is it settled? Twitter war? Thumb-wrestling? The Celtic gods can't play in the majors yet. The poor Irish have never had a fair shake:
    https://www.amazon.com/Irish-Became-White-Routledge-Classics/dp/0415963095

    Details aside, the Europeans who take on this neo-paganism - do they actually believe that there is an ontological reality to Thor and Odin? My community just collected a couple of million dollars to start up a mosque/khanqah. We sacrificed hundreds of dollars of our own wealth and much of our time to build a foundation for worship for us and future generations because this is real for us. Will we see them collecting to raise up pagan monuments that rival the Gothic cathedrals? Is this real for them? Or is it just fun to wear leather jackets with "Hammers of Thor" emblazoned on them and go beat up a 5% minority population? I guess that's more manly than wearing jackets with Barney the Dinosaur and his magic sandwich (though they have the same ontological reality). Medieval LARP time! And then what happens after darkie is gone?

    Does Odin make any demands of them, or is he at their beck and call when they need him to help liquidate the darkies - and then...back to the "friend zone" for a few centuries? A god that serves you - how convenient! Do they cry to him at night with their problems? Will they name their sons "Abdul-Odin"?

    Reminds me of the story related by the second caliph, Umar ibn al-Khattab (ra), about his old-school pagan-Arab days. Some of his friends heard him laughing and asked why, so he related something he was remembering from the past:
    "I remember that in the days of Jahiliyyah, I used to have this idol made of dates. One day, I became so hungry that I ate it."

    LOL - I guess one can't say the Arab gods didn't provide sustenance to their petitioners.

    My advice to the Muslims in Europe would be - if Europe does indeed become the bastion of neo-paganism, then they should leave voluntarily and fast. I do not know what God would do to a people that would revert to an insincere paganism after He granted them the gift of monotheism - it's His world after all. But I wouldn't take my chances being anywhere remotely close to where they are standing.

    Peace.

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  210. @helena
    Oh, Sam will answer, don't you worry!

    You don't need to be so feisty; just argue your points patiently and politely. Art does not deserve your insult about low IQ.

    Sam has not answered me. He is communicating with Talha. That’s a historical pattern. Your comment, no. 202 was very good. Art has responded and I will respond to him.

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  211. @Anonymous
    ''The few Indian Brahmins left are those who resisted miscegenation with Asians. Ancient Indian was invaded by Aryans who mixed with the native Asian/aborigine population. ''

    One good way to continue ensuring your credibility and standing is to not talk about stuff you dont know fully about. First they are many holes in the 'aryan-invasion' theory itself. It is not fully credible. Second there are many backward caste people who are fair skinned than many brahmins. There are dark-skinned brahmins also and fair skinned lower caste people also. Third before the so-called 'aryans' allegedly went into india there existed a civilisation in india called the indus-valley civilisation which was just as sophisticated as egypt and sumer which too also existed much before the so-called fair skinned aryans allegedly went into those places.

    Good points. I am presently studying the Indian civilization and culture. But again, big picture, a great people invaded, mixed with other races (which will produce several shades of skin color) and the worst outcome was IQ loss. What caused the IQ loss? This is what is most important to find out. And one good starting point is skin color. Almost all (some exceptions) dark-skinned peoples (Asians/blacks) have low IQs. We know this is what happened to the ancient Egyptians – IQ loss from mixing with blacks.

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  212. @Israel Shamir

    Israel’s motivation was
     
    Indeed, Sam! Isn"t it entertaining for readers and therapeutic for the Jews to leave their state of denial? Most Jews indeed do not know anything but remember the man who spoke prose all his life without being aware of that. We do not hesitate to remind people of their forefathers' faults - Germans, Russians, Brits, even Cook Islanders (they ate Cook), but Jews claim on being unique victim among the rogues is not good for their mental health.
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  213. @Art
    attilathehen,

    Two interesting and revealing comments to the Jew Matrix man and myself. You are an intelligent person – but somehow, anger has the best of you.

    I agree that most practical knowledge has been fostered by the Christian West. I agree that the Israel loving, John Hagee southern Christian is a real problem. I agree that RCC exclusivity is wrong.

    I think you are 100% wrong about the Jew Matrix menace. Jews champion dishonesty and social chaos. The Jew monetary system of interest and debt has taken over Western society.

    I do not agree that only the smartest of people are of value – good peaceful honest people can be found anywhere on the intelligence spectrum. Building a just forward-looking society is what Christianity does best. It does it because of its idealistic philosophy for living – not its exclusive connection to the god of the universe. Anyone can be a philosophical Christian. All races can be good Christians together.

    Again, I say that philosophical knowledge trump genetics. Archimedes “law of the lever” is used by most all societies. Knowledge is universal – not tied to genetics. Some philosophies are better than others at producing better tomorrows. Actually, many of your comments are about diverse groups with different philosophies – not about different genetics.

    You quote Jesus – “You will know the truth and the truth will set you free.”

    “The truth” is cultural knowledge – NOT genetics.

    Peace --- Art

    …anger..best of me…this makes me giggle. It reminds of when men say women look sexy when they’re angry. I am not angry. Nor did I suffer a “childhood trauma..troubled” as annamaria asked. I deal with facts. I’m going to throw alot of stuff out there for you to think about.

    You say “The Jew monetary system of interest and debt has taken over Western society.” This is because Westerners have allowed this to happen. There is nothing wrong with charging interest for a loan. There is an RCC convert, Ann Barnhardt who has produced several interesting youtubes about usury and Islam. Just a caveat – she is a fantatical RCCer who will never deal with the IQ/race issues. But I will attach a youtube about usury. She says that whenever people talk about non-interest loans (Marxists, socialists, Muslims) they are really just trying to blame the Jewish bankers for their problems. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCs1FNCuzF4&feature=youtu.be&t=4m43s
    She also has very good youtubes about the banking crisis of 2007.

    Next, you really believe in “universal brotherhood.” This is an evil, oxymoron. Of course all peoples of the world should get along. Christianity is the best religion for all people. But, again, as I listed countries that are Christian/not Christian, some non-Christian countries were better, i.e., Japan. Also, different peoples have their own countries. If they are not Western or cannot assimilate to the West, i.e., blacks/Asians, they do not belong in the West. They have their own countries.

    We have to define “smart people.” Anyone with an IQ of 90+, is good for a country. Of course, the West will take care of its own people who are lower in terms of IQ by providing safe, clean countries for them to live in. But again, these are Caucasians, Europeans. The West has no responsibility for blacks/Asians of any IQ level.

    You say I mention diverse peoples. Yes, but I also say they are not compatible with the West. You strike me as someone who believes in MLK, Jr.’s nightmarish “I have dream” speech.

    You keep talking about “philosophical Christianity.” You sound like (((Stefan Molyneux))) – yes, his mother was a German Jewess who fled Hitler’s Germany as a child. He believes philosophy is the answer to world problems. In order to “philosophize” you need a people capable of such thinking. Only the West has produced such thinkers. The most important people in the West are Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Jesus, St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas. Blacks/Asians have limited analytical/critical thinking skills.

    Also, it seems like we would have to reinvent the wheel every generation. Think about this. “With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.” I can say that now I can see about 5000 years of history in a day. Construction of the Egyptian pyramids started around 2700 B.C. When Jesus was born the pyramids were ancient. There is a greater time distance between the pyramids and the birth of Jesus , than that of Jesus to the present. I read this on some website recently and this made me realize that I can do a quick overview of world history by looking at a map of world, the different countries, races and IQs and see where everyone is today. I can then make decisions as to who/what is best. And I know I am one person with only so much time and money on this planet. That is why I deal with the ultimate, objective truth: IQ. There is not enough time or money to help anyone who is not a part of my culture. The best these other people can do is realize that the West is best. And if they have enough IQ/common sense, they will try to order their nations around the best of the West.

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    Oh my --- you love Jew Matrix banking and hate MLK – you write off 6,000,000,000 non-white people – you say they are too stupid to live in peace.

    One must ask - what good are you? Why would society want your low-minded hateful backwards cultural “High IQ” outlook in leadership?

    You say the high IQ people have no responsibilities to others. You claim to be Christian. Are these words not part of the Christian pathos? “To whom much is given, much will be required.”


    The facts are that a good portion of the 7,000,000,000 humans on this Earth live in relative peace with their neighbors in local functioning communities. It is politically angry race thugs such as yourself who bring chaos to humanity. It is you who incite people to kill others they do not even know. Every page of social human history is blood socked with the deeds of “High IQ” minded people like you.

    One does not have to be a rocket scientist to be at peace with one’s fellow humans. Christian philosophy does not have a corner on the market off “goodness.”

    What makes Christian philosophy so successful – is that it’s set of ideals act as an engine of progress – it is not only “good” - it is never satisfied with the current status quo. Live with hope, life is sacred, love your neighbor, seek the truth, forgive, and extend grace – are those ideals. Those ideals have pushed the West to where it is.

    Now people like you (some who falsely wrap yourselves in Jesus) are busy trashing Christian idealism.

    Peace --- Art
  214. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Talha
    Hey Sam,

    The cognitive dissonance in the positions of certain people are enough to make my head spin. No problem though, everyone is entitled to their opinion.


    resort to calling themselves Pagans
     
    I was conversing with another Muslim brother who reads UNZ about it. The rise of this phenomena in Europe is fairly deplorable as far as I'm concerned. The reason being that it is not a very sincere religion, it is opportunistic and cynical at its core. Sure, the pagans of the past actually believed sincerely in their anthropomorphic deities and for that I give them credit. They sacrificed their possessions, held festivals in their honor, made monuments to them, they would even sacrifice people, etc. They were "real" to those people in their daily experience. Which brings about an issue as a famous Greek observed:

    “The Ethiops say that their gods are flat-nosed and black,
    While the Thracians say that theirs have blue eyes and red hair.
    Yet if cattle or horses or lions had hands and could draw,
    And could sculpt like men, then the horses would draw their gods
    Like horses, and cattle like cattle; and each they would shape
    Bodies of gods in the likeness, each kind, of their own.” - Xeophanes

    A very "practical" religion, that. The gods conveniently look like oneself - it is the deification of the self-image. I suppose Zeus and Odin could settle it out in a steel cage match. Mithra - as a neutral observer - could be referee or manage one or the other champion to figure out who represents Team Europe. How is it settled? Twitter war? Thumb-wrestling? The Celtic gods can't play in the majors yet. The poor Irish have never had a fair shake:
    https://www.amazon.com/Irish-Became-White-Routledge-Classics/dp/0415963095

    Details aside, the Europeans who take on this neo-paganism - do they actually believe that there is an ontological reality to Thor and Odin? My community just collected a couple of million dollars to start up a mosque/khanqah. We sacrificed hundreds of dollars of our own wealth and much of our time to build a foundation for worship for us and future generations because this is real for us. Will we see them collecting to raise up pagan monuments that rival the Gothic cathedrals? Is this real for them? Or is it just fun to wear leather jackets with "Hammers of Thor" emblazoned on them and go beat up a 5% minority population? I guess that's more manly than wearing jackets with Barney the Dinosaur and his magic sandwich (though they have the same ontological reality). Medieval LARP time! And then what happens after darkie is gone?

    Does Odin make any demands of them, or is he at their beck and call when they need him to help liquidate the darkies - and then...back to the "friend zone" for a few centuries? A god that serves you - how convenient! Do they cry to him at night with their problems? Will they name their sons "Abdul-Odin"?

    Reminds me of the story related by the second caliph, Umar ibn al-Khattab (ra), about his old-school pagan-Arab days. Some of his friends heard him laughing and asked why, so he related something he was remembering from the past:
    "I remember that in the days of Jahiliyyah, I used to have this idol made of dates. One day, I became so hungry that I ate it."

    LOL - I guess one can't say the Arab gods didn't provide sustenance to their petitioners.

    My advice to the Muslims in Europe would be - if Europe does indeed become the bastion of neo-paganism, then they should leave voluntarily and fast. I do not know what God would do to a people that would revert to an insincere paganism after He granted them the gift of monotheism - it's His world after all. But I wouldn't take my chances being anywhere remotely close to where they are standing.

    Peace.

    Thanks for a very interesting comment, better than most of yours which is saying a lot.

    I think you have some points wrong on the psychology of paganism ancient and modern, but I won’t go into them here; I probably comment more than I should on here already but even so I don’t write half the things that occur to me as I read the articles or comments. By the way, do you often discuss UR articles/threads with friends and colleagues? And is UR a “thing”, as they say, with a fair section of the Muslim community? I can vouch it isn’t among Catholics, though of course in the US this is a far larger pool and less interested in one common topic on here.

    Anyway, I wanted to say you were right on the money about pride. Not necessarily about self-deification with the ancients at least, but certainly community-deification, connected with ancestor-worship among other things. But despite the fact that pagan societies (as a mark of sanity) condemn hubris, when pagans begin to philosophize this particular dictum seems to lack rational basis, as since the pagan gods are after all creatures their dicta are not a reasonable foundation for morality, and this hole tends to get filled with pride, especially by the Stoics and their successors, who include, oddly enough, many influenced by the Enlightenment.

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    community-deification
     
    Yes, actually that is what I was getting at; god-of-the-tribe.

    By the way, do you often discuss UR articles/threads with friends and colleagues?
     
    Once in a while, yes - though not colleagues. I'd like to keep my job!

    And is UR a “thing”, as they say, with a fair section of the Muslim community?
     
    Not that I know of, but there is certainly a very healthy push back developing in the Muslim community against the Left-liberalization of Muslim culture. Almost every traditional Muslim I speak to understands how dangerous the alliance with the Left can be. This is good news to someone like me. Getting kicked out of the West, doesn't bother me a bit - wouldn't be the first time. Our future generations remaining Muslims, firm on their faith, while being relegated to second class status in the West, doesn't either. Losing future generations to materialist, hedonist, consumerist ideology while being accepted with open arms scares the hell out of me:
    "By Allah, it is not poverty I fear for you, but rather I fear you will be given the wealth of the world just as it was given to those before you. You will compete for it just as they competed for it and it will destroy you just as it destroyed them." - reported in Bukhari & Muslim

    I speak to a lot of traditional Muslims about my conversations on UNZ. Many of them are quite sympathetic to the Alt-Right grievances actually. And even if they disagree, they will acknowledge the soundness of certain positions Alt-Right takes because we also reserve the right to take certain positions in Muslim lands that we don't compromise on - so it's just fair to acknowledge that right for others. What aspect that I notice in the Alt-Right that sucks is that they (even most Christians) have completely given in to define goals, metrics, and values completely based on a materialist framework - which is what I feel got them here in the first place.

    since the pagan gods are after all creatures their dicta are not a reasonable foundation for morality
     
    Lord, I wish more people would understand this and that it applies to many "gods".

    Peace.
    , @Talha
    Though note my follow up. It seems the neo-pagans might be even more Leftist than most. Apparently they've got room for everybody from Baal to Ananasi the Spider. So if neo-paganism takes off we might be seeing less skin-heads wearing "Sons of Odin" t-shirts and more public orgies (once the fertility phallus statue comes out - all hell [pardon the pun] breaks loose).

    Also - man this is a great resource for when it's 2 am and you just have to know which pantheon Belobog belongs to:

    http://www.godchecker.com/

    Paganism; BYOG.

    Peace.
  215. Talha says:
    @Anon
    Thanks for a very interesting comment, better than most of yours which is saying a lot.

    I think you have some points wrong on the psychology of paganism ancient and modern, but I won't go into them here; I probably comment more than I should on here already but even so I don't write half the things that occur to me as I read the articles or comments. By the way, do you often discuss UR articles/threads with friends and colleagues? And is UR a "thing", as they say, with a fair section of the Muslim community? I can vouch it isn't among Catholics, though of course in the US this is a far larger pool and less interested in one common topic on here.

    Anyway, I wanted to say you were right on the money about pride. Not necessarily about self-deification with the ancients at least, but certainly community-deification, connected with ancestor-worship among other things. But despite the fact that pagan societies (as a mark of sanity) condemn hubris, when pagans begin to philosophize this particular dictum seems to lack rational basis, as since the pagan gods are after all creatures their dicta are not a reasonable foundation for morality, and this hole tends to get filled with pride, especially by the Stoics and their successors, who include, oddly enough, many influenced by the Enlightenment.

    community-deification

    Yes, actually that is what I was getting at; god-of-the-tribe.

    By the way, do you often discuss UR articles/threads with friends and colleagues?

    Once in a while, yes – though not colleagues. I’d like to keep my job!

    And is UR a “thing”, as they say, with a fair section of the Muslim community?

    Not that I know of, but there is certainly a very healthy push back developing in the Muslim community against the Left-liberalization of Muslim culture. Almost every traditional Muslim I speak to understands how dangerous the alliance with the Left can be. This is good news to someone like me. Getting kicked out of the West, doesn’t bother me a bit – wouldn’t be the first time. Our future generations remaining Muslims, firm on their faith, while being relegated to second class status in the West, doesn’t either. Losing future generations to materialist, hedonist, consumerist ideology while being accepted with open arms scares the hell out of me:
    “By Allah, it is not poverty I fear for you, but rather I fear you will be given the wealth of the world just as it was given to those before you. You will compete for it just as they competed for it and it will destroy you just as it destroyed them.” – reported in Bukhari & Muslim

    I speak to a lot of traditional Muslims about my conversations on UNZ. Many of them are quite sympathetic to the Alt-Right grievances actually. And even if they disagree, they will acknowledge the soundness of certain positions Alt-Right takes because we also reserve the right to take certain positions in Muslim lands that we don’t compromise on – so it’s just fair to acknowledge that right for others. What aspect that I notice in the Alt-Right that sucks is that they (even most Christians) have completely given in to define goals, metrics, and values completely based on a materialist framework – which is what I feel got them here in the first place.

    since the pagan gods are after all creatures their dicta are not a reasonable foundation for morality

    Lord, I wish more people would understand this and that it applies to many “gods”.

    Peace.

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  216. Talha says:
    @Anon
    Thanks for a very interesting comment, better than most of yours which is saying a lot.

    I think you have some points wrong on the psychology of paganism ancient and modern, but I won't go into them here; I probably comment more than I should on here already but even so I don't write half the things that occur to me as I read the articles or comments. By the way, do you often discuss UR articles/threads with friends and colleagues? And is UR a "thing", as they say, with a fair section of the Muslim community? I can vouch it isn't among Catholics, though of course in the US this is a far larger pool and less interested in one common topic on here.

    Anyway, I wanted to say you were right on the money about pride. Not necessarily about self-deification with the ancients at least, but certainly community-deification, connected with ancestor-worship among other things. But despite the fact that pagan societies (as a mark of sanity) condemn hubris, when pagans begin to philosophize this particular dictum seems to lack rational basis, as since the pagan gods are after all creatures their dicta are not a reasonable foundation for morality, and this hole tends to get filled with pride, especially by the Stoics and their successors, who include, oddly enough, many influenced by the Enlightenment.

    Though note my follow up. It seems the neo-pagans might be even more Leftist than most. Apparently they’ve got room for everybody from Baal to Ananasi the Spider. So if neo-paganism takes off we might be seeing less skin-heads wearing “Sons of Odin” t-shirts and more public orgies (once the fertility phallus statue comes out – all hell [pardon the pun] breaks loose).

    Also – man this is a great resource for when it’s 2 am and you just have to know which pantheon Belobog belongs to:

    http://www.godchecker.com/

    Paganism; BYOG.

    Peace.

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  217. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Days ago I read the question on a right-wing blog if “Blacks are humans”.

    Isn’t it at least a bit amusing how all humans are fundamentally the same, subject to the same biases and illusions (dictated by desire for power, vanity, …), while one of these illusions is that their single group is unlike all others, never does wrong, and always is done wrong?

    What a short-sighted species, humans.

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    another anonymous reporting.

    God loves all His children. They squabble, as children will. Pray extra long today for guidance.
  218. Bliss says:
    @Talha
    Hey Bliss,

    The site of the Jewish temple in Jerusalem is the holiest place of Judaism.
     
    Yes.

    holiest place of Islam is the Kaaba in Mecca
     
    There is a difference of opinion on this, but generally yes.

    ever since Mohammad changed his mind because the Jews of Medina
     
    If you say so - we say it was revealed to him that the qiblah would be changed in recognition of the new direction of humanity towards the original house of worship built by the Prophet Abraham (pbuh). Your argument would have more coherence if it wasn't for the fact that even in Mecca at the beginning, when there were no Jews to worry about, the qiblah was Jerusalem.

    while it still contained all its idols
     
    Putting graffiti on or inside a sacred location does not reduce its status.

    There is no religious reason for Muslims to claim a share of the Jewish Temple.
     
    Of course not, we are only concerned with the site of the miraaj - which happens to be smack dab in the middle of the temple site. They consider it "holy" - something for which there is zero empirical proof other than a claim - and so do we. The Romans destroyed it, we didn't. On top of that, we claim all the Jewish prophets as our own - two of my sons are named after them - so anything associated with them is also of interest to us (us, meaning all Muslims from Senegal to Malaysia and anywhere else).

    There is also the well known fact that Muslims (of all backgrounds) spilled their own blood and crossed swords to claim and defend their sovereignty over Jerusalem against the Byzantines, Crusaders, Mongols, European Empires, etc. And letting Jews settle therein (as reported by the Iraqi Jewish historian and journalist, Nissim Rejwan):
    “It is interest to note here that, as far as Palestine is concerned, the right of Jews to ‘return’ to live in this small area of land was accepted by all successive Muslim rulers from the Muslim conquest to the end of the nineteenth century, when Zionist settlement there became entangled in European weltpolitik. Gibb and Bowen relate how, when the Jews of Europe ‘learned of the paradisiacal life awaiting them in Turkey’ and many of them set out for Palestine, it was not the Muslims who objected but the [Christian] Franciscans of Jerusalem, ‘who talked the Pope into forbidding the Venetians to carry Jewish passengers to the Holy Land.’ This was not the first time Jerusalem Christians tried to prevail on Muslim rulers to ban Jews from living in the city. A similar attempt was made first when the second Caliph, Omar, entered Jerusalem at the time of its conquest by the Muslim army in the seventh century, and again when Salah ad-Din [Saladin] drove out the Crusaders in the twelfth. On both of these occasions, the Christian patriarch of the city tried to persuade the Muslim conquerors to prevent Jews from living in or (as in the latter case) returning to Jerusalem after they had been expelled from it by the Christians. Both Omar and Salah ad-Din refused to heed their pleas.”
    Israel's Place in the Middle East*

    So yeah - we have always had a dog in that fight. If the Israelis do not want to negotiate and share sovereignty and would rather take it by force of arms, all good and well, they'll just be another notch on our belt when the Muslim world is able to get past its differences and comes for the holy city again.

    Peace.

    *Note: Of interest here is that a while back I was able to link to text directly to a page inside the book, this is no longer possible. Now it takes you to the front page and description. This is the first book archived on Google for which I have experienced this. But if one wants to confirm the text is verbatim, they can just copy parts of it and do a search - it will show up in the search results page in bold under the link.

    Your argument would have more coherence if it wasn’t for the fact that even in Mecca at the beginning, when there were no Jews to worry about, the qiblah was Jerusalem.

    You clearly have a problem thinking rationally. Mohammad started out as a judeophile imitator in Mecca, prostrating towards Jerusalem not the pagan Kaaba, so what “incoherence” are you talking about? He migrated to Medina because it was the most Jewish town in Arabia. It was only after the Jews of Medina refused to accept him as a prophet and refused to join him in his murderous robbing expeditions against the Meccan caravans that he started prostrating towards the pagan temple in Mecca, which contained idols and images of a pantheon of gods and goddesses. Does that not make Mohammad and his companions polytheist idol worshippers? Does the Koran not condemn such idolaters to eternal torture in hell (talk about cruel and unjust)? That is an example of the incoherences and inconsistencies that you brainwashed fools imagine are the wisdom and morality of the “all-knowing, merciful and compassionate” God.

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    Hey Bliss,

    Mohammad started out as a judeophile imitator in Mecca
     
    Yeah - because Late-Antiquity Mecca was the hub of virtue-signalling.

    He migrated to Medina because it was the most Jewish town in Arabia.
     
    No - because all the other towns refused to host him and only the Banu Aws and Banu Khazraj would.

    murderous robbing expeditions against the Meccan caravans
     
    Nope - they persecuted and kicked out the Muslims. The Muslims hit them back once they had permission - hard. Don't start a fight you don't intend to finish. And once you've kicked people out, don't do something stupid like send a threatening follow-up letter - tends to piss people off:
    "The infidels of the Quraysh wrote (a letter) to Ibn Ubayy and to those who worshipped idols from al-Aws and al-Khazraj, while the Apostle of God was at that time at Medina before the Battle of BadrB. (They wrote): You gave protection to our companion. We swear by God, you should fight or expel him, Or we shall come to you in full force, until we kill your fighters and appropriate your women..." -
    reported in Abu Dawud

    By all means though - protest in the UN for Pagan Arab reparations - 40 acres and a camel!


    ordered Mohammad and his companions to prostrate towards the Kaabah
     
    Fixed it for you.

    he started prostrating towards the Kaabah in Mecca
     
    That's better.

    Does that not make Mohammad and his companions polytheist idol worshippers?

     

    No - the Kaaba was always originally a monotheistic house of worship, and then pagans screwed it up, and then it was restored.

    Does the Koran not condemn such idolaters to eternal torture in hell
     
    Yeah it does - but they weren't worshiping idols.

    talk about cruel and unjust
     
    Take it up with Him when you see Him - He might take your arguments into consideration.

    all-knowing, merciful and compassionate
     
    He is - if you're still alive to read this after your rant, He's being fairly lenient. Oh - but you want to insult Him, His Messenger (pbuh) and His religion and still be pampered in the afterlife. Sorry - we don't worship the All-Encompassing-Chump-of-tha-Feelz.

    shameless dishonesty...Incredibly stupid...you brainwashed fools
     
    You mad bro?

    Peace.

  219. Art says:
    @attilathehen
    ...anger..best of me...this makes me giggle. It reminds of when men say women look sexy when they're angry. I am not angry. Nor did I suffer a "childhood trauma..troubled" as annamaria asked. I deal with facts. I'm going to throw alot of stuff out there for you to think about.

    You say "The Jew monetary system of interest and debt has taken over Western society." This is because Westerners have allowed this to happen. There is nothing wrong with charging interest for a loan. There is an RCC convert, Ann Barnhardt who has produced several interesting youtubes about usury and Islam. Just a caveat - she is a fantatical RCCer who will never deal with the IQ/race issues. But I will attach a youtube about usury. She says that whenever people talk about non-interest loans (Marxists, socialists, Muslims) they are really just trying to blame the Jewish bankers for their problems. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCs1FNCuzF4&feature=youtu.be&t=4m43s
    She also has very good youtubes about the banking crisis of 2007.

    Next, you really believe in "universal brotherhood." This is an evil, oxymoron. Of course all peoples of the world should get along. Christianity is the best religion for all people. But, again, as I listed countries that are Christian/not Christian, some non-Christian countries were better, i.e., Japan. Also, different peoples have their own countries. If they are not Western or cannot assimilate to the West, i.e., blacks/Asians, they do not belong in the West. They have their own countries.

    We have to define "smart people." Anyone with an IQ of 90+, is good for a country. Of course, the West will take care of its own people who are lower in terms of IQ by providing safe, clean countries for them to live in. But again, these are Caucasians, Europeans. The West has no responsibility for blacks/Asians of any IQ level.

    You say I mention diverse peoples. Yes, but I also say they are not compatible with the West. You strike me as someone who believes in MLK, Jr.'s nightmarish "I have dream" speech.

    You keep talking about "philosophical Christianity." You sound like (((Stefan Molyneux))) - yes, his mother was a German Jewess who fled Hitler's Germany as a child. He believes philosophy is the answer to world problems. In order to "philosophize" you need a people capable of such thinking. Only the West has produced such thinkers. The most important people in the West are Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Jesus, St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas. Blacks/Asians have limited analytical/critical thinking skills.

    Also, it seems like we would have to reinvent the wheel every generation. Think about this. "With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day." I can say that now I can see about 5000 years of history in a day. Construction of the Egyptian pyramids started around 2700 B.C. When Jesus was born the pyramids were ancient. There is a greater time distance between the pyramids and the birth of Jesus , than that of Jesus to the present. I read this on some website recently and this made me realize that I can do a quick overview of world history by looking at a map of world, the different countries, races and IQs and see where everyone is today. I can then make decisions as to who/what is best. And I know I am one person with only so much time and money on this planet. That is why I deal with the ultimate, objective truth: IQ. There is not enough time or money to help anyone who is not a part of my culture. The best these other people can do is realize that the West is best. And if they have enough IQ/common sense, they will try to order their nations around the best of the West.

    Oh my — you love Jew Matrix banking and hate MLK – you write off 6,000,000,000 non-white people – you say they are too stupid to live in peace.

    One must ask – what good are you? Why would society want your low-minded hateful backwards cultural “High IQ” outlook in leadership?

    You say the high IQ people have no responsibilities to others. You claim to be Christian. Are these words not part of the Christian pathos? “To whom much is given, much will be required.”

    The facts are that a good portion of the 7,000,000,000 humans on this Earth live in relative peace with their neighbors in local functioning communities. It is politically angry race thugs such as yourself who bring chaos to humanity. It is you who incite people to kill others they do not even know. Every page of social human history is blood socked with the deeds of “High IQ” minded people like you.

    One does not have to be a rocket scientist to be at peace with one’s fellow humans. Christian philosophy does not have a corner on the market off “goodness.”

    What makes Christian philosophy so successful – is that it’s set of ideals act as an engine of progress – it is not only “good” – it is never satisfied with the current status quo. Live with hope, life is sacred, love your neighbor, seek the truth, forgive, and extend grace – are those ideals. Those ideals have pushed the West to where it is.

    Now people like you (some who falsely wrap yourselves in Jesus) are busy trashing Christian idealism.

    Peace — Art

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    If you live in the West, it's time for you to move to Africa or Asia.
    , @NoseytheDuke
    I've fixed the small error you made in your comment.

    'Every page of social human history is blood socked with the deeds of self-attested “High IQ” minded people like you.'

    It claims to possess a high IQ but so far it has insisted on withholding all evidence of such.
    , @Anonymous

    Live with hope, life is sacred, love your neighbor, seek the truth, forgive, and extend grace – are those ideals. Those ideals have pushed the West to where it is.
     
    Half of those are worse than useless on a battlefield or during an invasion. Attilathehen is way too aggressive but your love is clearly not conquering the World.
  220. Bliss says:
    @Talha
    Hey Bliss,

    The site of the Jewish temple in Jerusalem is the holiest place of Judaism.
     
    Yes.

    holiest place of Islam is the Kaaba in Mecca
     
    There is a difference of opinion on this, but generally yes.

    ever since Mohammad changed his mind because the Jews of Medina
     
    If you say so - we say it was revealed to him that the qiblah would be changed in recognition of the new direction of humanity towards the original house of worship built by the Prophet Abraham (pbuh). Your argument would have more coherence if it wasn't for the fact that even in Mecca at the beginning, when there were no Jews to worry about, the qiblah was Jerusalem.

    while it still contained all its idols
     
    Putting graffiti on or inside a sacred location does not reduce its status.

    There is no religious reason for Muslims to claim a share of the Jewish Temple.
     
    Of course not, we are only concerned with the site of the miraaj - which happens to be smack dab in the middle of the temple site. They consider it "holy" - something for which there is zero empirical proof other than a claim - and so do we. The Romans destroyed it, we didn't. On top of that, we claim all the Jewish prophets as our own - two of my sons are named after them - so anything associated with them is also of interest to us (us, meaning all Muslims from Senegal to Malaysia and anywhere else).

    There is also the well known fact that Muslims (of all backgrounds) spilled their own blood and crossed swords to claim and defend their sovereignty over Jerusalem against the Byzantines, Crusaders, Mongols, European Empires, etc. And letting Jews settle therein (as reported by the Iraqi Jewish historian and journalist, Nissim Rejwan):
    “It is interest to note here that, as far as Palestine is concerned, the right of Jews to ‘return’ to live in this small area of land was accepted by all successive Muslim rulers from the Muslim conquest to the end of the nineteenth century, when Zionist settlement there became entangled in European weltpolitik. Gibb and Bowen relate how, when the Jews of Europe ‘learned of the paradisiacal life awaiting them in Turkey’ and many of them set out for Palestine, it was not the Muslims who objected but the [Christian] Franciscans of Jerusalem, ‘who talked the Pope into forbidding the Venetians to carry Jewish passengers to the Holy Land.’ This was not the first time Jerusalem Christians tried to prevail on Muslim rulers to ban Jews from living in the city. A similar attempt was made first when the second Caliph, Omar, entered Jerusalem at the time of its conquest by the Muslim army in the seventh century, and again when Salah ad-Din [Saladin] drove out the Crusaders in the twelfth. On both of these occasions, the Christian patriarch of the city tried to persuade the Muslim conquerors to prevent Jews from living in or (as in the latter case) returning to Jerusalem after they had been expelled from it by the Christians. Both Omar and Salah ad-Din refused to heed their pleas.”
    Israel's Place in the Middle East*

    So yeah - we have always had a dog in that fight. If the Israelis do not want to negotiate and share sovereignty and would rather take it by force of arms, all good and well, they'll just be another notch on our belt when the Muslim world is able to get past its differences and comes for the holy city again.

    Peace.

    *Note: Of interest here is that a while back I was able to link to text directly to a page inside the book, this is no longer possible. Now it takes you to the front page and description. This is the first book archived on Google for which I have experienced this. But if one wants to confirm the text is verbatim, they can just copy parts of it and do a search - it will show up in the search results page in bold under the link.

    Putting graffiti on or inside a sacred location does not reduce its status.

    Since it is highly unlikely that you don’t know the meaning of the word graffiti the above is just another example of your willful, shameless dishonesty. Incredibly stupid of you to imply that the pagan Arabs were worshipping graffiti illegally painted on the Kaaba (as if they would even have allowed it) instead of the religious idols and images of numerous gods and goddesses that it contained.

    Since idol worship is such an anathema in Islam how do you justify the Koranic revelation that ordered Mohammad and his companions to prostrate towards the pagan idols in the Kaaba?

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  221. Talha says:
    @Bliss

    Your argument would have more coherence if it wasn’t for the fact that even in Mecca at the beginning, when there were no Jews to worry about, the qiblah was Jerusalem.
     
    You clearly have a problem thinking rationally. Mohammad started out as a judeophile imitator in Mecca, prostrating towards Jerusalem not the pagan Kaaba, so what “incoherence” are you talking about? He migrated to Medina because it was the most Jewish town in Arabia. It was only after the Jews of Medina refused to accept him as a prophet and refused to join him in his murderous robbing expeditions against the Meccan caravans that he started prostrating towards the pagan temple in Mecca, which contained idols and images of a pantheon of gods and goddesses. Does that not make Mohammad and his companions polytheist idol worshippers? Does the Koran not condemn such idolaters to eternal torture in hell (talk about cruel and unjust)? That is an example of the incoherences and inconsistencies that you brainwashed fools imagine are the wisdom and morality of the “all-knowing, merciful and compassionate” God.

    Hey Bliss,

    Mohammad started out as a judeophile imitator in Mecca

    Yeah – because Late-Antiquity Mecca was the hub of virtue-signalling.

    He migrated to Medina because it was the most Jewish town in Arabia.

    No – because all the other towns refused to host him and only the Banu Aws and Banu Khazraj would.

    murderous robbing expeditions against the Meccan caravans

    Nope – they persecuted and kicked out the Muslims. The Muslims hit them back once they had permission – hard. Don’t start a fight you don’t intend to finish. And once you’ve kicked people out, don’t do something stupid like send a threatening follow-up letter – tends to piss people off:
    “The infidels of the Quraysh wrote (a letter) to Ibn Ubayy and to those who worshipped idols from al-Aws and al-Khazraj, while the Apostle of God was at that time at Medina before the Battle of BadrB. (They wrote): You gave protection to our companion. We swear by God, you should fight or expel him, Or we shall come to you in full force, until we kill your fighters and appropriate your women…” -
    reported in Abu Dawud

    By all means though – protest in the UN for Pagan Arab reparations – 40 acres and a camel!

    ordered Mohammad and his companions to prostrate towards the Kaabah

    Fixed it for you.

    he started prostrating towards the Kaabah in Mecca

    That’s better.

    Does that not make Mohammad and his companions polytheist idol worshippers?

    No – the Kaaba was always originally a monotheistic house of worship, and then pagans screwed it up, and then it was restored.

    Does the Koran not condemn such idolaters to eternal torture in hell

    Yeah it does – but they weren’t worshiping idols.

    talk about cruel and unjust

    Take it up with Him when you see Him – He might take your arguments into consideration.

    all-knowing, merciful and compassionate

    He is – if you’re still alive to read this after your rant, He’s being fairly lenient. Oh – but you want to insult Him, His Messenger (pbuh) and His religion and still be pampered in the afterlife. Sorry – we don’t worship the All-Encompassing-Chump-of-tha-Feelz.

    shameless dishonesty…Incredibly stupid…you brainwashed fools

    You mad bro?

    Peace.

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    Nope – they persecuted and kicked out the Muslims.
     
    Nope, liar. The Arab pagans tolerated Mohammad’s rantings against their religion for many years. In stark contrast Mohammad practiced zero tolerance as soon as he became a warlord in Medina. He even had a female poet assasinated for writing poems criticizing his new religion.

    Many Meccan muslims migrated to Medina with Mohammad. But not all. There were still many muslims left in Mecca, and they were not molested even during Mohammad’s campaign of robbery, murder and enslavement against the caravans which were the livelihood of meccans.
  222. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Anonymous
    Days ago I read the question on a right-wing blog if "Blacks are humans".

    Isn't it at least a bit amusing how all humans are fundamentally the same, subject to the same biases and illusions (dictated by desire for power, vanity, ...), while one of these illusions is that their single group is unlike all others, never does wrong, and always is done wrong?

    What a short-sighted species, humans.

    another anonymous reporting.

    God loves all His children. They squabble, as children will. Pray extra long today for guidance.

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  223. @Art
    Oh my --- you love Jew Matrix banking and hate MLK – you write off 6,000,000,000 non-white people – you say they are too stupid to live in peace.

    One must ask - what good are you? Why would society want your low-minded hateful backwards cultural “High IQ” outlook in leadership?

    You say the high IQ people have no responsibilities to others. You claim to be Christian. Are these words not part of the Christian pathos? “To whom much is given, much will be required.”


    The facts are that a good portion of the 7,000,000,000 humans on this Earth live in relative peace with their neighbors in local functioning communities. It is politically angry race thugs such as yourself who bring chaos to humanity. It is you who incite people to kill others they do not even know. Every page of social human history is blood socked with the deeds of “High IQ” minded people like you.

    One does not have to be a rocket scientist to be at peace with one’s fellow humans. Christian philosophy does not have a corner on the market off “goodness.”

    What makes Christian philosophy so successful – is that it’s set of ideals act as an engine of progress – it is not only “good” - it is never satisfied with the current status quo. Live with hope, life is sacred, love your neighbor, seek the truth, forgive, and extend grace – are those ideals. Those ideals have pushed the West to where it is.

    Now people like you (some who falsely wrap yourselves in Jesus) are busy trashing Christian idealism.

    Peace --- Art

    If you live in the West, it’s time for you to move to Africa or Asia.

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    Here is a little MLK – YOU need this.

    "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Hate multiplies hate, violence multiplies violence, and toughness multiplies toughness in a descending spiral of destruction. . . . The chain reaction of evil--hate begetting hate, wars producing more wars--must be broken, or we shall be plunged into the dark abyss of annihilation." Martin Luther King
     
    Peace --- Art
  224. Art says:
    @attilathehen
    If you live in the West, it's time for you to move to Africa or Asia.

    Here is a little MLK – YOU need this.

    “Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Hate multiplies hate, violence multiplies violence, and toughness multiplies toughness in a descending spiral of destruction. . . . The chain reaction of evil–hate begetting hate, wars producing more wars–must be broken, or we shall be plunged into the dark abyss of annihilation.” Martin Luther King

    Peace — Art

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    • Replies: @Logan
    How far would MLK's campaign of non-violence have gotten against Julius Caesar or Genghis Khan? Or against a slaveowner in 1850 Georgia?

    It's uplifting to talk about love defeating hate, but it only works against certain types of people, who were by definition not all that bad to begin with.

    MLK did not win his battles because love conquered hate, but because the superior firepower of the federal government crushed resistance.
  225. Bliss says:
    @Talha
    Hey Bliss,

    Mohammad started out as a judeophile imitator in Mecca
     
    Yeah - because Late-Antiquity Mecca was the hub of virtue-signalling.

    He migrated to Medina because it was the most Jewish town in Arabia.
     
    No - because all the other towns refused to host him and only the Banu Aws and Banu Khazraj would.

    murderous robbing expeditions against the Meccan caravans
     
    Nope - they persecuted and kicked out the Muslims. The Muslims hit them back once they had permission - hard. Don't start a fight you don't intend to finish. And once you've kicked people out, don't do something stupid like send a threatening follow-up letter - tends to piss people off:
    "The infidels of the Quraysh wrote (a letter) to Ibn Ubayy and to those who worshipped idols from al-Aws and al-Khazraj, while the Apostle of God was at that time at Medina before the Battle of BadrB. (They wrote): You gave protection to our companion. We swear by God, you should fight or expel him, Or we shall come to you in full force, until we kill your fighters and appropriate your women..." -
    reported in Abu Dawud

    By all means though - protest in the UN for Pagan Arab reparations - 40 acres and a camel!


    ordered Mohammad and his companions to prostrate towards the Kaabah
     
    Fixed it for you.

    he started prostrating towards the Kaabah in Mecca
     
    That's better.

    Does that not make Mohammad and his companions polytheist idol worshippers?

     

    No - the Kaaba was always originally a monotheistic house of worship, and then pagans screwed it up, and then it was restored.

    Does the Koran not condemn such idolaters to eternal torture in hell
     
    Yeah it does - but they weren't worshiping idols.

    talk about cruel and unjust
     
    Take it up with Him when you see Him - He might take your arguments into consideration.

    all-knowing, merciful and compassionate
     
    He is - if you're still alive to read this after your rant, He's being fairly lenient. Oh - but you want to insult Him, His Messenger (pbuh) and His religion and still be pampered in the afterlife. Sorry - we don't worship the All-Encompassing-Chump-of-tha-Feelz.

    shameless dishonesty...Incredibly stupid...you brainwashed fools
     
    You mad bro?

    Peace.

    Nope – they persecuted and kicked out the Muslims.

    Nope, liar. The Arab pagans tolerated Mohammad’s rantings against their religion for many years. In stark contrast Mohammad practiced zero tolerance as soon as he became a warlord in Medina. He even had a female poet assasinated for writing poems criticizing his new religion.

    Many Meccan muslims migrated to Medina with Mohammad. But not all. There were still many muslims left in Mecca, and they were not molested even during Mohammad’s campaign of robbery, murder and enslavement against the caravans which were the livelihood of meccans.

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    Hey Bliss,

    The Arab pagans tolerated Mohammad’s rantings against their religion for many years.
     
    No - they were pretty thoroughly persecuted - especially if they were slaves. They had to leave finally after it became too much to bear. Some had even fled to Abyssinia in the early years.

    He even had a female poet assasinated for writing poems criticizing his new religion.
     
    Oh you mean the Asma Bint Marwan story that none of the scholars take seriously and hadith scholars on the level of Imams Bukhari (ra), Nisaa'i (ra) and Daraqutni (ra) said is a fabricated story from a worthless chain of narrators? Didn't expect that one...again.

    There were still many muslims left in Mecca, and they were not molested
     
    No - there were only a handful that couldn't get out - since hijrah was obligatory at that stage. And they were quite molested.

    campaign of war against the caravans which were the livelihood of meccans.
     
    Fixed it for you again. The Meccans knew what they were getting into. The book ‘Armies of Muslim Conquest’ by Prof. David Nicolle has the very first sentence under the chapter called “The Prophet’s First Warriors” is:
    “Arabian warfare was based on different principles from that of their larger neighbors, razzia raiding being the most common tactic.”

    If they were too stupid to understand that the Muslims would strike back using normative Arab warfare tactics (as opposed to those of the Visigoths)...well, sucks for them - free camels!!!

    The Pagan Arabs would blow a fuse if they could read what kind of hippy metrosexuals you are making them out to be. I'll give them credit, they certainly didn't whine about the situation (as their latter-day apologists like to do on their behalf) - they played hard to win and knew what the stakes were. And when they lost their capital city (Mecca) and were granted amnesty, they became Muslims and helped preserve the very tradition you are now criticizing.

    Peace.

  226. @Art
    Oh my --- you love Jew Matrix banking and hate MLK – you write off 6,000,000,000 non-white people – you say they are too stupid to live in peace.

    One must ask - what good are you? Why would society want your low-minded hateful backwards cultural “High IQ” outlook in leadership?

    You say the high IQ people have no responsibilities to others. You claim to be Christian. Are these words not part of the Christian pathos? “To whom much is given, much will be required.”


    The facts are that a good portion of the 7,000,000,000 humans on this Earth live in relative peace with their neighbors in local functioning communities. It is politically angry race thugs such as yourself who bring chaos to humanity. It is you who incite people to kill others they do not even know. Every page of social human history is blood socked with the deeds of “High IQ” minded people like you.

    One does not have to be a rocket scientist to be at peace with one’s fellow humans. Christian philosophy does not have a corner on the market off “goodness.”

    What makes Christian philosophy so successful – is that it’s set of ideals act as an engine of progress – it is not only “good” - it is never satisfied with the current status quo. Live with hope, life is sacred, love your neighbor, seek the truth, forgive, and extend grace – are those ideals. Those ideals have pushed the West to where it is.

    Now people like you (some who falsely wrap yourselves in Jesus) are busy trashing Christian idealism.

    Peace --- Art

    I’ve fixed the small error you made in your comment.

    ‘Every page of social human history is blood socked with the deeds of self-attested “High IQ” minded people like you.’

    It claims to possess a high IQ but so far it has insisted on withholding all evidence of such.

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    Hey NtD,

    possess a high IQ
     
    World War 2 is a testament to and case study in the complete and utter dysfunction that can grip the most High IQ societies. The meat grinder was basically most of Europe and the Far East. Though they did bring their fights onto other people's territory like North Africa, Burma, etc.

    "Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall." Proverbs 16:18

    Peace.
  227. Bliss says:
    @Israel Shamir
    As far as I know, de Leon didn't live under Muslim rule. He was born in Leon, and died in Avila; both became Christian 200 years before his birth. He could be inspired by Sufism via Christian gnostics.

    As far as I know, de Leon didn’t live under Muslim rule. He was born in Leon, and died in Avila; both became Christian 200 years before his birth. He could be inspired by Sufism via Christian gnostics.

    Thanks for correcting me. I was a bit lazy in my research.

    Gnosticism was considered a heresy by the Catholic Church. The Cathar Crusade wiped out Gnosticism in Christendom in the early 13th century shortly before Moses de Leon was born (which was the same year Ibn Arabi died).

    The point remains: Kabbalah was not created ex nihilo. Neither was Sufism. Nor was Gnosticism. They are all attempts to reconcile spirituality with middle-eastern religions.

    Besides Ibn-Arabi, Muslim Spain also gave birth to Ibn Rushd who tried to reconcile Aristotelian Philosophy with Islam. Both Maimonides and Aquinas were inspired by Ibn Rushd aka Averroes to try the same with their religions, Judaism and Catholicism respectively.

    These attempts to reconcile the Bible and the Koran with philosophy or spirituality were futile, being false…

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  228. Talha says:
    @Bliss

    Nope – they persecuted and kicked out the Muslims.
     
    Nope, liar. The Arab pagans tolerated Mohammad’s rantings against their religion for many years. In stark contrast Mohammad practiced zero tolerance as soon as he became a warlord in Medina. He even had a female poet assasinated for writing poems criticizing his new religion.

    Many Meccan muslims migrated to Medina with Mohammad. But not all. There were still many muslims left in Mecca, and they were not molested even during Mohammad’s campaign of robbery, murder and enslavement against the caravans which were the livelihood of meccans.

    Hey Bliss,

    The Arab pagans tolerated Mohammad’s rantings against their religion for many years.

    No – they were pretty thoroughly persecuted – especially if they were slaves. They had to leave finally after it became too much to bear. Some had even fled to Abyssinia in the early years.

    He even had a female poet assasinated for writing poems criticizing his new religion.

    Oh you mean the Asma Bint Marwan story that none of the scholars take seriously and hadith scholars on the level of Imams Bukhari (ra), Nisaa’i (ra) and Daraqutni (ra) said is a fabricated story from a worthless chain of narrators? Didn’t expect that one…again.

    There were still many muslims left in Mecca, and they were not molested

    No – there were only a handful that couldn’t get out – since hijrah was obligatory at that stage. And they were quite molested.

    campaign of war against the caravans which were the livelihood of meccans.

    Fixed it for you again. The Meccans knew what they were getting into. The book ‘Armies of Muslim Conquest’ by Prof. David Nicolle has the very first sentence under the chapter called “The Prophet’s First Warriors” is:
    “Arabian warfare was based on different principles from that of their larger neighbors, razzia raiding being the most common tactic.”

    If they were too stupid to understand that the Muslims would strike back using normative Arab warfare tactics (as opposed to those of the Visigoths)…well, sucks for them – free camels!!!

    The Pagan Arabs would blow a fuse if they could read what kind of hippy metrosexuals you are making them out to be. I’ll give them credit, they certainly didn’t whine about the situation (as their latter-day apologists like to do on their behalf) – they played hard to win and knew what the stakes were. And when they lost their capital city (Mecca) and were granted amnesty, they became Muslims and helped preserve the very tradition you are now criticizing.

    Peace.

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  229. Talha says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    I've fixed the small error you made in your comment.

    'Every page of social human history is blood socked with the deeds of self-attested “High IQ” minded people like you.'

    It claims to possess a high IQ but so far it has insisted on withholding all evidence of such.

    Hey NtD,

    possess a high IQ

    World War 2 is a testament to and case study in the complete and utter dysfunction that can grip the most High IQ societies. The meat grinder was basically most of Europe and the Far East. Though they did bring their fights onto other people’s territory like North Africa, Burma, etc.

    “Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall.” Proverbs 16:18

    Peace.

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    Talha,

    The High-IQ rallying cry of exclusivity is always a prelude to some trouble making. It is how High-IQ people get otherwise good folks to do something wrong to other good folks. It is how the High-IQ bring power to themselves. They pump us up with the false grandeur that we are better then others.

    We each possess a political life force. We must NEVER give it over to others. We must shelter our political life force against manipulation. The elite need our life force. When in any way, the High-IQ demand that we attack others – we must say NO.

    (There is a difference between defending and attacking – we must not be sucked into attacking.)

    Peace --- Art

    p.s. The US DOD is the Department of Defense - Not the US Department of Offense.
  230. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Art
    Oh my --- you love Jew Matrix banking and hate MLK – you write off 6,000,000,000 non-white people – you say they are too stupid to live in peace.

    One must ask - what good are you? Why would society want your low-minded hateful backwards cultural “High IQ” outlook in leadership?

    You say the high IQ people have no responsibilities to others. You claim to be Christian. Are these words not part of the Christian pathos? “To whom much is given, much will be required.”


    The facts are that a good portion of the 7,000,000,000 humans on this Earth live in relative peace with their neighbors in local functioning communities. It is politically angry race thugs such as yourself who bring chaos to humanity. It is you who incite people to kill others they do not even know. Every page of social human history is blood socked with the deeds of “High IQ” minded people like you.

    One does not have to be a rocket scientist to be at peace with one’s fellow humans. Christian philosophy does not have a corner on the market off “goodness.”

    What makes Christian philosophy so successful – is that it’s set of ideals act as an engine of progress – it is not only “good” - it is never satisfied with the current status quo. Live with hope, life is sacred, love your neighbor, seek the truth, forgive, and extend grace – are those ideals. Those ideals have pushed the West to where it is.

    Now people like you (some who falsely wrap yourselves in Jesus) are busy trashing Christian idealism.

    Peace --- Art

    Live with hope, life is sacred, love your neighbor, seek the truth, forgive, and extend grace – are those ideals. Those ideals have pushed the West to where it is.

    Half of those are worse than useless on a battlefield or during an invasion. Attilathehen is way too aggressive but your love is clearly not conquering the World.

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    Live with hope, life is sacred, love your neighbor, seek the truth, forgive, and extend grace – are those ideals. Those ideals have pushed the West to where it is.

    Half of those are worse than useless on a battlefield or during an invasion. Attilathehen is way too aggressive but your love is clearly not conquering the World.
     
    High-IQ thugs who pump themselves up with notions of biological superiority, are still with us. Exclusivity, as a powerful appeal to our darker nature - is still with us.

    But clearly, they are being rejected more and more by the people of this Earth.

    “Blessed are the gentle, for they shall inherit the earth”. - from the Sermon on the Mount.

    It is evolving to fruition. Work for it!

    Peace --- Art
  231. Logan says:
    @K
    Just because one jewish priest thought so, doesnt mean every jewish priest or every jewish person thought/thinks the same.

    Also, remember in olden times almost every culture/leaders of cultures in varying degrees called 'outsiders' as barbarians or beasts. It doesnt mean the people of those cultures nor all books of the culture/religion thought they were barbarian.

    The endonym of almost every tribe on earth translates as “People” or “The People,” implying that outsiders are NOT People. This is the human norm. That many of us have gotten past that is because of the ideals expressed in the Jewish and Christian scriptures, in which we are all brothers because we are all equally children of God.

    I find it odd that such pronouncements by several Jewish kooks should be taken as somehow definitive or all or most Jews. Jim Jones claimed to be a Christian. Are his writings to be taken as defining Christian belief?

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    I find it odd that such pronouncements by several Jewish kooks should be taken as somehow definitive or all or most Jews. Jim Jones claimed to be a Christian. Are his writings to be taken as defining Christian belief?
     
    The comparison is flawed.

    Jim Jones led a very tiny group of very deluded people for a very short time to a very mortal end.

    Jewish leaders have led entire nations to destroy other nations in some of the most horrific forms of killing and devastation that the world has experienced.

    GRANTED, however, that Christian leaders with far more power and influence that Jim Jones have also led entire nations to destroy other nations, in horrific ways.

    Jim Jones is dead. A pithy lesson has been learned from that tragedy: Don't drink the Kool-Aid.

    On the other hand, Jews as well as Christians -- both adherents of the Abrahamic imago -- convinced that they alone possess the Truth, continue to rampage about the world, killing those who resist that imposed Truth.
  232. Logan says:
    @Art
    Here is a little MLK – YOU need this.

    "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Hate multiplies hate, violence multiplies violence, and toughness multiplies toughness in a descending spiral of destruction. . . . The chain reaction of evil--hate begetting hate, wars producing more wars--must be broken, or we shall be plunged into the dark abyss of annihilation." Martin Luther King
     
    Peace --- Art

    How far would MLK’s campaign of non-violence have gotten against Julius Caesar or Genghis Khan? Or against a slaveowner in 1850 Georgia?

    It’s uplifting to talk about love defeating hate, but it only works against certain types of people, who were by definition not all that bad to begin with.

    MLK did not win his battles because love conquered hate, but because the superior firepower of the federal government crushed resistance.

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    • Replies: @Art
    MLK did not win his battles because love conquered hate, but because the superior firepower of the federal government crushed resistance.

    Jim Crow was a very ugly thing – a great sore on America’s psyche – it had to go. Jim Crow was defeated because the American people said “enough.” The US government had the backing of the power of the people.

    MLK voiced the obvious – he appealed to our better nature – our better nature won.

    We can have a better peaceful world – we must voice the possibility of that. Only when we speak up for peace – can we achieve it.

    Peace --- Art
  233. Art says:
    @Logan
    How far would MLK's campaign of non-violence have gotten against Julius Caesar or Genghis Khan? Or against a slaveowner in 1850 Georgia?

    It's uplifting to talk about love defeating hate, but it only works against certain types of people, who were by definition not all that bad to begin with.

    MLK did not win his battles because love conquered hate, but because the superior firepower of the federal government crushed resistance.

    MLK did not win his battles because love conquered hate, but because the superior firepower of the federal government crushed resistance.

    Jim Crow was a very ugly thing – a great sore on America’s psyche – it had to go. Jim Crow was defeated because the American people said “enough.” The US government had the backing of the power of the people.

    MLK voiced the obvious – he appealed to our better nature – our better nature won.

    We can have a better peaceful world – we must voice the possibility of that. Only when we speak up for peace – can we achieve it.

    Peace — Art

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  234. Art says: