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Donald Trump’s mortal enemies in mainstream politics and media have shifted strategy. In the ramp-up to the Iowa, February 1 Caucuses, the culprits have been pushing presidential hopefuls Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio onto a defiant Republican base. The Cartel has taken to discussing Trump as a nightmare from which they’ll soon awaken. Candidate Trump’s energetic, politically pertinent speeches, and near daily rallies—packed to the rafters with supporters—are covered by media only to condemn this or the other colorful altercation. Ted Cruz, we‘re being lectured, is poised to topple Trump in Iowa.

But what do you know? On the eve of January 12, as if in recoil to the concentrated toxicity of Barack Obama’s last State of Disunion address, featuring the divisive Nikki Haley in the GOP’s corner, Trump punched through the lattice of lies. The media-political-complex was caught trousers down again. National polls have Trump at 36 percent, Reuters at 39 percent. A CBS/NYT poll placed him 17 points ahead of Ted Cruz, his closest rival. In Iowa, Trump leads Cruz 28 to 26 percent.

The central conceit that currently defines media’s self-serving surmises is that the Trump Revolution is confined to the Right and is thus self-limiting. While the Right is always more courageous in bucking sclerotic authority, the Trump Revolution isn’t exclusively Republican or rightist.

I get the distinct impression that this Revolution encompasses Left and Right; Democrats, Republicans and Independents. As The Atlantic magazine cautioned, the polls are underestimating Trump’s support. The slow kids of media have yet to discover the methodological flaws inherent in survey methodology. Subjects are more likely to reply truthfully in anonymous, online surveys than in face-to-face or telephonic questionnaires. As if to confirm that Trumpites are coming out of the closet, a January 13, YouGov.com poll, courtesy of the Washington Examiner, catapulted Mr. Trump to near 50 percent.

Something else has made the special-needs media boil with bile: It’s the role of America’s much-maligned, white majority—65 percent and rapidly declining—in Trump’s meteoric ascent. Trump’s supporters are disenfranchised whites, left, right and center (or in an ideological no-man’s land). The silent majority that dare not speak its name—other than to flagellate for collective sins and perceived privilege—is still the largest demographic bloc in the US.

Working class whites, in particular, have been led down a political cul-de-sac.

Omitted at last year’s November 10, Fox Business, presidential debate were two loudly whispered secrets. The one was Marco Rubio’s expensing the Republican Party for personal spending. The other: Terrifying data that a large segment of white America was … dying.

“Mortality among middle-aged Americans with a high-school degree or less increased by 134 deaths per 100,000 people between 1999 and 2013,” wrote Olga Khazan of The Atlantic. Mortality among working-class white Americans has risen by half a percent a year. “That means ‘half a million people are dead who should not be dead.’” Since these whites are dying from “suicide, alcohol and drug poisonings, and alcohol-related liver disease,” Khazan concluded sadly that, “Middle-aged white Americans are dying of despair.” Otherwise, nobody has probed deeper than to advance reductive economic and educational causes.

My sense is that, “while Americans in their 40s and 50s don’t have enough money saved for retirement,” there’s more afoot than money.

Most of us have come across emaciated, gaunt, poor white men and women in our communities; middle-aged, often younger whites standing on the curb, begging for change. Indeed, we members of the informal, White Lives Matter movement notice that poor whites in America are very badly off.

But a political whiteout prohibits the candid discussion of their plight. Unless they’re being dubbed throw-away racists, bigots, or has-beens who can’t let go of white privilege—white, working-class America is invisible. It has been so for decades.

Consider what befell Martin O’Malley, Democrat for president, at the Netroots Nation conference, in Phoenix. “Black lives matter, black lives matter,” activists chanted at O’Malley, who dared to respond with the catchphrase, “Black lives matter. White lives matter. All lives matter.”

The maniacal reaction to O’Malley’s truism was so vociferous, that soon he and the Democrats were denouncing the notion that all lives mattered, and apologizing to blacks for daring to imply that white lives mattered, too. A weak Bernie Sanders was practically chased off a Seattle stage by two Black Lives Matter women, and has since been silent about poor whites, except to promise proxy wars on Walmart and Wall Street.

Politically, at least, white lives are forfeit.

Bernie is full of humanist bromides. This Democrat candidate’s immigration plank, however, is “humane” to migrants and inhumane to their poor white American hosts. Sanders managed to discuss the plight of working class white America with MSNBC’s Chris Hayes, without once mentioning immigration. Or the decimation of the coal industry in West Virginia, courtesy of Obama policies that saw 332 coal mines shuttered. These working-class white men came to D.C. hard hats in hand, to beg for their jobs. Nobody listened until Trump.

Stuff happens, poor whites are told. Quit being racist.

If you’re working-class and white, you’re invisible. You have been for decades. You used to be the backbone of the economy. No more. You’re still the backbone of the US military, more likely to die in the service of The State in far-flung countries.

ORDER IT NOW

Your love of country is sanctioned provided it is confined to dying in the wars launched by Rome-on-the-Potomac. You may find belonging only by risking your life abroad in the service of strangers, or opening your home to them, stateside. If you survive the combat-to-coffin career path, your love of community will need to encompass a million immigrants, each and every year, who’ll have the run of your schools, hospitals, libraries, parks and workplace. Destined to fight against subsistence farmers in foreign lands, you find yourself harassed on your homesteaded land, at home, never free from federal aggression.

As a share of America’s adult population, Donald Trump’s invisible, poor white army likely forms less than 48 percent. To them could be added other whites who favor borders and hanker after closely-knit communities and such Burkean peculiarities. I would imagine ranchers Hammond and Bundy are eager to hear from the one candidate who has not called them terrorists.

This, large, mostly white cohort is waiting on the ropes for … Donald Trump.

 
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  1. “Iowa Caucasus”? I love it. Intentional or not.

    But Iowa’s more like Ukraine– a breadbasket, not a basket case.

    • Replies: @ilana mercer
  2. National polls have Trump at 36 percent, Reuters at 39 percent

    Reuters may outpoll Donald, but they definitely don’t meet the qualification of “natural born citizen”.

    • Agree: Vendetta
  3. jtgw says: • Website

    I think this column needs to ditch the “paleolibertarian” label. There is absolutely nothing libertarian about Trump, whatever else you may think of him. Maybe it’s time to acknowledge that you’re just a Buchananite populist.

  4. Priss Factor [AKA "Dominique Francon Society"] says:

    We can’t really understand the US immigration problem without taking Jewish power and Negroes into account.

    Jews obviously wanted more non-whites in order to play divide-and-rule among goyim.

    And, for a time, many whites were okay with immigrants as buffers between themselves and blacks. Though there are problems with Mexicans, Asian gangs, and Muslim terrorists, the fact is most whites, Mexicans, Asians, and even Muslims usually get along, even if they may not like one another.
    It is the Negroes who are the trouble-makers.

    Whites have a problem with Negroes cuz they have two competing but interwoven narratives about the blacks.
    If whites could just hate and loathe blacks, things would be simpler. If whites found blacks only lovable, that would be nice too.
    But whites feel love and hate for blacks.

    The hate part is easy. A lot of blacks are thuggish, aggressive, wild, crazy, and criminal. They act out in schools. They make trouble in public spaces. They holler like baboons.
    Also, the hate part may be different among white men and white women. White men often hate blacks cuz some white women love them. Some white women love Negroes cuz black men are seen as more manly and tough. Cuckish white boys are cool with this, but white males with hurt pride really hate Negroes for this reason.
    But a lot of white men and women fear and even hate blacks cuz of black criminality and thuggery.

    If blacks were only criminal and thuggish, whites feelings about them would be simple. But blacks are very good at what white folks are crazy about: NBA, NFL, and funky pop music. So, white girls try to imitate Beyonce and other black biatches, and they love them rappers. And white boys worship black athletes and wanna be like ‘whigger’ rappers.

    Also, there is historical sympathy that is like spiritual love among some white folks. Because of how slavery and Jim Crow have been turned into the stuff of religious guilt and myth in America, some whites(especially secularized ones looking for spiritual sustenance) look upon blacks as messiah-figures, holy martyrs, angels, prophets, and even god. Though ‘uncle tom’ came to be synonymous with toady Negroes, the actual character of the novel was anything but. He was like a holy Negro who died courageously and nobly like Jesus. He didn’t resist the violence not out of cowardice but because he was so good and willing to die for the sin of the white man.

    So, there is the fear of the mean bad nasty fearsome Negro.
    And there is the fascination with the tough badass Negro.
    And there is worship of the holy Negro.

    And all three themes were represented in the mountain-sized Negro in THE GREEN MILE. He is like King Kong crossed with Uncle Tom. He is BIG. He looks like he could knockout George Foreman, Mike Tyson, and Joe Frazier with his pinky. He looks he could whup the entire white race. He looks gigantic and terrifying.
    And in one scene, he grabs a white man and shakes him, and such violence surely scared white folks in the theater half to death(or to death and back to life from the sheer shock). This part of him illustrates the fear of the white man for the Kong-like Negro. He be savage!! He be crazy!!

    But what does the Negro really want? Why, all he wants to do is love and pet his wittle white mouse. He is a holy Negro wouldn’t hurt a fly. This is the Uncle Tom side of him, a fantasy of the holy Negro as redemption for the white man.

    But of course, this is all bogus. It’s true that blacks were enslaved by whites. But only a fool believes a people are ennobled, especially for all time, by historical suffering. Chinese suffered a lot under the Japanese, and Russians suffered a lot under the Germans. But does it make sense to see Chinese or Russians as races of saints? Of course not.

    But for some reason, we are supposed to see Jews, Homos, and Negroes as holy and haloed for all eternity.

    Anyway, Trump has made immigration a big issue, but isn’t the bigger issue the Negroes? Immigration or no immigration, Negroes will continue to cause the most problem in the US. If anything, many whites still prefer immigrants to Negroes. Even I would rather have lots of Mexicans than Negroes. Mexicans may be lacking in initiative and ambition, but they act human. Negroes too often act wild or with psychopathy.

    As for why white working class is suffering so much, the issue isn’t only about immigration and ‘free trade’ that shipped jobs overseas. It’s the Negroes.
    When white guys see so many white women turning into mudsharks, they lose confidence and pride. When men lose their manhood, they become depressed and turn to drink and drug. It’s bad enough that white guys lost jobs and factories. On top of that, they see their daughters turning into mudsharks and their boys imitating rappers. That must really suck. This rap garbage culture exists only because blacks exist in the US.
    And young white boys become depressed cuz in integrated schools, they get pushed around by Negroes who also take white girls. Turned into wussy boys, they turn to tattoos and drugs.
    As for white girls, they may be excited to go with Negro studs, but soon enough, many of them get smacked around or mistreated. They end up pregnant with mulatto kids while the black daddy runs off to impregnate other white girls.

    So white guys lose their pride and turn to drugs. White girls do gain their dream Negro studs but are mistreated and end up as trash.

    This problem cannot be dealt with by yammering only about immigration.

  5. Vendetta says:
    @jtgw

    Ilana is way too hawkish to be called a Buchananite.

  6. Benez says:

    Trump supporters are so invisible they fill stadiums all over this country.

    All you see are successful white people when you drive outside the cities, all around the country.

    Plenty of successful whites out there as they are the only ones with work ethic, and starting real businesses which are not subsidized jokes.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    , @Bliss
  7. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Priss Factor

    “He is like King Kong crossed with Uncle Tom.”

    Uncle Kong

  8. Priss, is that you?

    Sock puppetry is discouraged here, especially with statuesque full-length panty hose.

    • Replies: @Truth
  9. @Priss Factor

    The Priss Factory rebranded? Anyway, how should this problem be dealt with?

    • Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith
  10. Leftist conservative [AKA "radical rebel"] says: • Website

    the white working class is the primary obstacle to the economic growth and increased profits that the big corporations desire. More workers and more consumers. That is what the establishment wants. They get more workers/consumers via mass immigration of nonwhites. This influx of workers and consumers must be integrated into the neighborhoods and workplaces in order for the establishment to maximize growth/profits. That is where anti-white multiculturalism comes into play. The establishment generates anti-white propaganda and it is poured into young white minds starting at an early age. Such propaganda has the goal of portraying whites as the demons of history, thus generating white guilt in young white minds. This reservoir of white guilt is then exploited later on in life. This guilt is used to manufacture consent for mass immigration and affirmative action, which is how the establishment gets more workers and consumers and economic growth.

    Trump understands this. And he understands that many of the new white pariah class are angry about the way the establishment is getting growth.

    The establishment is pulling out all the stops in an effort to bully whites into not voting for trump.

    We shall see what happens.

  11. Not to pick nits at a very minor point, but the idea that immigrants are taking away poor whites’ libraries vastly overestimates the interest immigrants, poor whites, and everybody else in the world might have in libraries.

    • Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith
  12. Trump is a very mild Fascist: he (apparently) wants a corporate-socialist big-gubmint multi-cult “nation”…with actual borders. As such (that last part is the problem) he won’t likely get the Republiscam nomination. If nominated, he won’t likely win the election. If elected, he will be…ah…neutralized. The Universalist Tikkun Olam Judeo-banksters and billionaires are determined to liquidate the Whites and their civilization. So they can feel safe. Doesn’t Ilana Issacson a.k.a. Mercer want to feel safe? Of course she does

  13. Truth says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    I agree, Prissy, at least make a half-effort to try to fool somebody.

  14. JackOH says:

    Ilana, thanks. FWIW-the onetime upmarket white guys I know who’ve been economically and socially defenestrated are too Sunday school-polite, too much still believers in their own merit, too much believers in Norman Rockwell’s America. Just one more interview, one more buffing-up of the CV, and they’ll be on track in their view.

    You may want to take a look at UK Prof. Guy Standing’s idea of The Precariat. Standing leans to political port, and you may need a grain of salt, but his thinking and vocabulary are fresh. In the context of crony (“fascistized”?) capitalism, and the abandonment of old verities by our masters, his ideas may be worth considering.

    • Replies: @Bill jones
  15. The previously unthinkable is now being thought, and will soon be said publicly: whites are adopting identity politics. That is exactly what was happening at Trump’s rally in Pensacola. Whites have found their champion.

    Buckle your seatbelts, everyone.

  16. Sherman says:

    I wonder if any of these poor, working class whites ever considered that Trump would have little to do with any of them in his personal life – except perhaps to work at one of his construction sites, casinos or golf courses.

    Furthermore, none of these poor, working class whites can afford to live in any of the buildings with Trump’s name.

    Trump is doing nothing but exploiting anger over real – and perceived – problems facing middle class Americans. He is offering no substantive solutions.

  17. iffen says:

    Hail Marys might win a battle, but they will never win the war.

  18. @Benez

    Look, I’m very proud to be white and I think it was a grave mistake for the USA and Canada to let in large numbers of immigrants from China, India, Africa and Muslim countries,

    But it is ridiculous to say that only whites have a work ethic or run real, successful small businesses here. Many Asian-Americans would be surprised to hear that. It just makes us sound foolish and ignorant to people who visit this site and read our comments to claim something like that.

  19. @Sherman

    He is offering no substantive solutions.

    Yes he is: close the borders to stop dilution of US labor supply; reform trade, fiscal policy to repatriate US manufacturing.

    I sense some projection here. High socio-economic status does not prevent you from caring for people below you in status. I make a lot more money than janitors. I don’t have any friends or family who are janitors. That doesn’t mean I’m not courteous to the janitor in my building, and trying to gouge him by instead hiring the most desperately poor Third World flotsam I can import.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  20. iffen says:

    The Ogre has only two more weeks at sea.

  21. @Reg Cæsar

    Misspelled caucuses in first sentence.

    Must thank our reader for catching. ‘Tis what happens when you spell check with Microsoft.

    Readers are my best editors.

    Frankly, “Caucasus” does kind of work.

    Thanks again.

  22. OutWest says:
    @Sherman

    I do a lot of profitable business with/for customers who would prefer not to engage with me socially (thank goodness). There’s a good bit of enlightened self-interest in having well-heeled customers of any class. Now we have cheap offshore workers but are getting thin on locals who can afford even the cost-cutting goods. My impression is that much of Trump’s business is predicated on local demand rather than low-cost foreign goods.

    Don’t give a damn if someone purports to feel my pain (as if they did) so much as empathizes with my reality and their stake therein.

  23. @This Is Our Home

    And that is your argument? “Get a grip”? Someone might suggest you get a brain.

    • Replies: @This Is Our Home
  24. Superb piece, to which I would add: Trump is being utterly vilified in Europe, and particularly Britain, where a so-called serious debate for banning him is now taking place. If Trump becomes President, this just might end our military alliance with Western Europe, and the dissolution of NATO. This is long overdue in my estimation, and would save us the billions we spend each year in protecting a bunch of total ingrates.

    • Replies: @byrresheim
  25. Jason Liu says:

    I am neither invisible, poor, or white and I’m voting Trump just to whip up a little nationalism. Conservatism makes very poor right wing ideology. Be done with it.

  26. joe webb says:
    @Sherman

    point missed. workers have more sense than to envy Trump. Ordinary people recognize that they are not smart enough to be either good Trump economic types, or smart enough to take on the jews, liberals and white race-traitors of the fourth estate, or to go to college…the Great American Dream machine (which is grinding itself up with minorities who are ultra dumb).

    In brief, they can however recognize someone who will champion their cause. Noblesse Oblige is alive and well in Trump, and workers can see it.

    Respect, a species of love, is what keeps a society of unequals together. The Liberal Type is a resenter, just smart enough to think he is in the Game, or can be so, and thus charges forward competing like crazy for the brass ring and aching for Success.

    Workers don’t bother, the no longer Silent Majority, they are grinning and will vote.

    Joe Webb

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  27. Rehmat says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Had it not been the immigrants from China, India, Africa and Muslim countries, the White folks in the US and Canada would still be chasing and slaughtering Red Indians and Buffalos like their ancestors.

    These immigrants did create cheap labor (hated by Whites), but certainly not pornography (loved by Whites).

    http://rehmat1.com/2015/02/17/pornography-the-jewish-secret-wmd/

    • Replies: @Discard
    , @RadicalCenter
    , @Ace
  28. Stop paying them to breed and they’ll wipe each other out. Feral black problem solved. Now take your meds, Priss.

    Rising White Nationalism was the inevitable result of the policies being pursued by the Progressive/Neocon coalition. But choosing Obama as the agent of delivery is just such wonderful irony. No one else has done as much as that blundering political neophyte to deliver the masses to Trump.

  29. @jtgw

    Have been a hardcore paleolibertarian for close on 20 years with the necessary evolution. Thus note that support here is for the Process of Trump; not necessarily for the policies. That Process entails Trump’s smashing the spoils system: media complex, political complex, party complex, including the RNC. Trump is a post-constitutional candidate (I like Articles of Confederation; not the Constitution). He may just loosen each individual’s ties to The Center. In the age of diktats—Democrat and Republican—the best freedom lovers can hope for is counter-action to sunder the system.

    Let’s see.

    This is paleolibertarian.

    • Replies: @jtgw
    , @JackOH
    , @Trumped
  30. @jtgw

    My thoughts exactly…given that the political limbo to which Mercer banishes the Reagan-Democrat proles-her “ideological no-man’s land”–is about as anti-libertarian as you could get. Try googling the phrase “socially conservative economically liberal” some time—you mainly get hits on the inverse thereof.

  31. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Priss Factor

    This only happens as an outlier. Don’t generalize this.

  32. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Groovy Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:

    Post-Trump Politics:

    Here it is:1)Hard-core racial xenophobia
    2)More hard-core racial xenophobia
    3)non-interventionist foreign policy
    4)economic protectionism
    5)Hanging Time for the Greedy Cheating White Liberal Mega-CEO kind!!!!..We will make this a Family Picnic day, and enjoy the high pitched squeals, and watch the spasmatic feet kicking and then spasmatic twitching. Then we sell their trophy wives into sexual slavery in the Sudan!!!

    How many of you out there think I’m kidding?….Trust me…..I’m deadly serious.

    What I have stated above is the only viable option for the Historic Native Born White American Working Class.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    , @dahoit
  33. An excellent article by Ilana Mercer. I like her name for the corrupt gang of D.C imperialists, “Rome-on-the-Potomac,” and her critique of their mad invite the world, invade the world policies. Mercer’s back-of-the-hand to the riffraff of Black Lives Matter is refreshing and well deserved.

    • Replies: @ilana mercer
  34. CMC says:

    It’s not a revolution.

    It’s a counter-revolution.

    Make America Great AGAIN.

  35. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Sherman

    I wonder if any of these poor, working class whites ever considered that Trump would have little to do with any of them in his personal life – except perhaps to work at one of his construction sites, casinos or golf courses.

    A job is better than no job. How is he different from any of the other candidates in this way? Do you believe Jeb or Hilary hang out at the local bowling alley? Do any of them have any “substantive solutions” themselves? All they offer is a kick in the mouth and people aren’t masochists. Trump may be a hollow man, true enough, but people buy lottery tickets based on hope even though they know the odds are against them.

  36. Perfectly describes the hit job from the red, blue and media.
    Is the GOP willing to lose the WH to kill Trump ?

  37. @NoseytheDuke

    The Priss Factory rebranded? Anyway, how should this problem be dealt with?

    I used the same method as for Priss: highlight and copy “Dominique Francon Society”, open “Commenters to Ignore” list, paste, close.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  38. It ain’t just white rednecks supporting Trump. Two women of my acquaintance are solidly behind him; one is Jewish, the other black. The latter tells me there are lots more like her in the black community. It would be very interesting to see Trump nominated and get, say, 30-40% of the black vote in the general election. Just picture the talking heads exploding all over your TV screen.

    • Replies: @ron mexico
  39. Corvinus says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Trump draws heavily from more secular Republicans who are more likely to describe themselves as “liberal” or “moderate” than “conservative” or “very conservative.” Yet, “true” conservatives who vote for Trump are doing head-spins right now, realizing that Trump is not as conservative as his record and inevitably abandoning their own own principles in the process.

    Besides, Trump is one of the elites that allegedly people here find distasteful, an Eastern-bred showman who does resonate with two current issues—immigration and Islam–but for his own purposes. That is his identity. Wait until his policies that decidedly work against working class whites—however they are defined nowadays—like corporate welfare and union busting.

    Trump and his bro Putin are cut from the same cloth—gin up populist themes and raise the flag of nationalist in a concerted effort to have citizens forget exactly who they are and what they have stood for in the past.

    Trump can talk all he wants about making fundamental changes; he is going to have to figure out how to work with Congress to get things done.

    So, how about the arm-chair warriors here heeding the call to actually run for office in support of his agenda?

    “whites are adopting identity politics.”

    The Age Of Ideas is alive and kicking, now referred to as the Age Of Competing Ideologies by the Coalition of the Fringes (Left and Right).

    Until whites overall, as a group, rich and poor, middle class and working class, adopt exclusively “white identity politics”,
    
“It means you don’t cut off someone’s head for violating your religious beliefs.”

    That would be the radical element, not Isiam in its entirety.

    “Christians of all kinds, and Jews, moved away from that a few centuries ago. Obviously, a large number of Muslims have not, read the newspapers and read the polls.”

    You’re going to have be specific regarding “large number”. Furthermore, some Christians and Jews are more “sophisticated” in their disdain of Islam. Not that their rhetoric, oh, I’m sorry, “nonpartisan reporting” is responsible for perpetual religious animosity. For example: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

    “The problem with Muslims is that too many of them do not have a rational or tolerant perspective on their faiths.”

    Compared to Christians or Jews?

    “In the West, and certainly in the US, religion is a handmaid to civil society.”

    Morality, which may be borne out of religion, is a facilitatory to society that is civil.

    “It may not determine civil society. Muslims have to learn this. Once they learn that, fine. But until they have learned that, they shouldn’t come here.”

How many beheadings in the States since 2001?

    “Ultimately marrying out has to be the result. We can’t have large minorities of whoever marrying their first cousins. This destroys the fabric of our society.”

How many first cousin marriages among Muslims in the States?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  40. @RadicalCenter

    But it is ridiculous to say that only whites have a work ethic or run real, successful small businesses here. Many Asian-Americans would be surprised to hear that.

    Why do Chinese buy liquor stores? Why do Indians own all the 7-11s? Why do only Chinese work in Chinese-owned liquor stores, and only lower-caste Indians work in 7-11s?

    Why is that? It’s because they do not assimilate, have no intention of assimilating, and with each succeeding generation of non-assimilation, continue to destroy the social fabric of the USA.

  41. @Cattle Guard

    the idea that immigrants are taking away poor whites’ libraries vastly overestimates the interest immigrants, poor whites, and everybody else in the world might have in libraries

    That’s the point, isn’t it? That libraries and what they represent should not be chucked into the dustbin because the Stupids and Illegals demand it?

  42. Corvinus says:
    @Corvinus

    Whoops, ignore the first comment.

    Trump draws heavily from more secular Republicans who are more likely to describe themselves as “liberal” or “moderate” than “conservative” or “very conservative.” Yet, “true” conservatives who vote for Trump are doing head-spins right now, realizing that Trump is not as conservative as his record and inevitably abandoning their own own principles in the process.

    Besides, Trump is one of the elites that allegedly people here find distasteful, an Eastern-bred showman who does resonate with two current issues—immigration and Islam–but for his own purposes. That is his identity. Wait until his policies that decidedly work against working class whites—however they are defined nowadays—like corporate welfare and union busting.

    Trump and his bro Putin are cut from the same cloth—gin up populist themes and raise the flag of nationalist in a concerted effort to have citizens forget exactly who they are and what they have stood for in the past.

    Trump can talk all he wants about making fundamental changes; he is going to have to figure out how to work with Congress to get things done.

    So, how about the arm-chair warriors here heeding the call to actually run for office in support of his agenda?

    “whites are adopting identity politics.”

    The Age Of Ideas is alive and kicking, now referred to as the Age Of Competing Ideologies by the Coalition of the Fringes (Left and Right).

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  43. Lots of recruits for White Nationalist and Alt-Right movements.

  44. @Priss Factor

    Mexicans and Gringos have lived for a long, long time ‘together’ in a way. If you look around, almost half of the USA was ‘mexican’ at one time, and whites arrived in troves going ‘west’ coming into contact with a society already established in the ‘west’. Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California, Utah, etc. Lacking initiative? I wonder how California became the 7th largest economy in the world, since Mexicans lack initiative. Texas is a mexicanized state so is California, both power houses economically. Also, remember that Mexico was conquered by a white European country, not only the USA, and also utilizes a European language. So, if you notice, the USA is more in tune with Mexico than with say Canada, which is also a whited country.
    As for blacks, I have come in contact with some very professional an educated blacks, who are respectful and cultured; Mostly blacks from the Caribean though. Somehow blacks have created a brutal semi society within themselves and the rest of their community has not evolved sufficiently as to react against that kind of violent gang mentality of some in the black community.
    Anglos (other whites such as germans, French, Italians, irish) also need to have a mindset that not all blacks are evil/violent. I personally believe that the gangsterism in society is part created by the violence in the media, i.e. TV, movies, video games, etc. where killing, maiming destroying is seeing as normal.

    just my thoughts.

    • Replies: @dcite
    , @Romanian
  45. Bliss says:
    @Benez

    All you see are successful white people when you drive outside the cities, all around the country……starting real businesses which are not subsidized jokes.

    How conveniently you are ignoring the billions of dollars in subsidies collected from the government by white farmers. Or the tens of millions of white americans on food stamps, welfare, unemployment checks, social security, medicare, medicaid etc. Are they “successful white people”?

    When you combine all these socialist benefits whites suck more from the teats of government than minorities.

    • Replies: @epochehusserl
    , @Eric Novak
  46. jtgw says: • Website
    @ilana mercer

    OK. Maybe you could write a column outlining your predictions along these lines. How do you think a Trump victory would lead to the political decentralization that, I agree, libertarians should all favor?

  47. JackOH says:
    @ilana mercer

    ” . . . Process of Trump . . .”. Agree 100%. He’s upsetting the usual civic pieties, which is good. Plus, The Donald knows to a certainty the other candidates must–absolutely must–work from focus-grouped scripts that kowtow to specific constituencies and corporate donors.

    There’s at least the hint of an idea in Trump’s so far successful candidacy that the next successful candidate who might champion some of the “Unz Review” writers’ ideas might be found in a list of America’s 200-some billionaires.

  48. Sam Shama says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    No, methinks you will be doing what you usually do, this time next year. Which is: jumping in front of your mirror in underwear and socks, with a beer can in your hand.

  49. nickels says:

    We’re all perhaps getting used to it at this point, but Trump’s explicit condemnation of policital correctness is actually quite historic, in my opinion.

    It is easy to forget 6 months ago how scared everyone was to express their opinion in anything right of center (of course there have always been those that did anyway).

    Thanks in part to Trump (and the other conservatives who have fought this disease) the programming is starting to come undone.

    It’s time for TOTAL RECALL!!!

  50. AmericanaCON [AKA "ConservativeThinker"] says:

    It is not only uneducated white people which have fallen in despair. There are plenty of “young” people born in the 1980s and later from college educated middle class families which have much trouble to find good employment. Trump capture low-skilled, semi-skilled and skilled workers including a hefty bunch of people with college and university education. The only people which are actually benefitting from the current politics are the urban upper-middle class – meaning mostly “old” people and youngsters lucky to be hired to a white color job after graduation. It is not only the GOP elite which do not understand the dissonance between education and numbers of good jobs. You see the same dissonance is all countries. I believe this is the consequence when you allow government to intervene in education and the market place.

    The truth is that with good jobs follow good education. The opposite: with good education follows good jobs is wrong and have been wrong from the very beginning. The GOP debate was horrible in this aspect because none of the candidate other than Donald Trump understands this. If you outsource all jobs and bring in foreign labor – well, than it doesn’t matter how many people we put through high school, trade school or college because there will be no jobs available anyway. Donald Trump is a winner because he understands what the GOP base want. This is winner positions;

    1. High tariffs to protect American manufacturing and production
    2. An immigration policy which put American workers first and unwanted immigrants out
    3. A though stance against all illegal immigration including the building of a massive wall
    3. Introduce a flat tax, lower taxes and fewer regulations
    4. Get rid of the Federal Reserve and allow states to handle their banking they see fit. Reintroduce the Gold Standard
    5. Move power from DC to the States. Education and healthcare ought to be a volunteer matter for states and not Washington
    6. US government ought to deal with trade issues and the constitutional matters while the states deal with the rest
    7. Protect the second amendment and get rid of federal regulation and laws on firearms.
    8. See to that abortion and LGBT-rights is matter for the states and not US government
    9. Take home the troops and put them on the border to Mexico and Canada. Close GITMO and send the prisoners back home.

    Any fool who would run with this (and some more positions such as making Christianity the official religion of United States) would most likely win the US presidency. This is basically what you need to create a thriving working and middle class and a religiously and culturally cohesive society. I personally think United States ought to stay out from the rest of the world and the rid of the neo-conservative version of the American exceptionalism. When listen to Obama in his last State of the Union I more or less understand that even the mainstream left and right are tired of the Neo-Conservative warmongers. Even Jeb Bush was on the defense in the last debate. Donald Trump position on (more or less) closing the borders and keep the Muslims out (the last I don’t agree with) is better than bombing third world countries into oblivion to make foreign and domestic special intrest pleased.

    I think Trumps envision of what America what most Americans deep down wants for themselves and their children. It is true that Santorum, Huckabee, Paul, Carson, Cruz, Christie and Sanders use some of the rhetoric and hold some good positions but in the end they will follow the money. I somewhat like Fiorina, Kasich, Bush and Rubio because they are openly speaking for the bankers, the super-rich and the neo-conservative special intrest. Trump is not close as well-spoken as the professional politicians but he continues to win because he is plain spoken and his positions are sound just like the positions which came out of Ron Paul. The only “bad” thing with Trump is that he don’t play tactical and smartly in the debates. He crushes lesser candidates like Jeb Bush.

    However, Ted Cruz is extremely well-spoken and won in the debate with Trump over the issue if he can run for president. Tactically, Trump does not win anything attacking Cruz. Cruz is holding 1/5 of the GOP support. Trump holds only 1/3 and it would be my guess that Trump need to run with an establishment candidate like Cruz as VP. Cruz has an extremely populist appeal and is way better than all the candidates (including Hillary) in presenting an argument .On the other hand Cruz is hated in Washington DC. The sad part with Trump (if he is elected President) he will attacked by not only the US elites but the entire elite in the Western world. Trump is extremely dangerous for the elites. It would be my guess that Trumps hand will be tied as soon he arrives to the White House. However, if Trump is smart he could create a wave of paleo-conservatives/libertarians running for congress as Trump normalize the issue on immigration and criticism of free trade. Anyhow, it will be extremely fun to have Donald Trump in the White House.

  51. @Epaminondas

    And that is your argument? “Get a grip”? Someone might suggest you get a brain.

    His post was that of a rambling lunatic. How else would you respond to someone who is barking at the moon?

  52. @Bliss

    Minorities were instrumental in voting for a welfare state. Any attempts to roll it back would be deemed racist. So you are upset that people make money from govt programs? I agree there are to o many whites on govt programs which is why I support restricting the franchise. Minorities support disparate impact, affirmative action, non white diversity initiatives, banning of iq tests, set asides, quotas, forced lending, the victims revolution in the academy, complaining about white student achievement, and much else besides.

    • Replies: @AmericanaCON
  53. “This, large, mostly white cohort is waiting on the ropes for … Donald Trump”:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7eI8i6AssY&feature=youtu.be

    • Replies: @David
  54. @Rex Little

    It would be a Clayton Bigsby moment to cherish.

  55. @Corvinus

    Whoops, ignore the first comment.

    No sweat. We do it all the time.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  56. Rex May says: • Website
    @jtgw

    I’ve come to realize that the way to maximize stable freedom in this country is to be a Buchananite populist.

  57. David says:
    @Simon in London

    That was interesting. I bet a lot of younger types find that pretty inspirational. Reminds me a bit of Marley’s, “They say: only, only, /Only the fittest of the fittest shall survive, /Stay alive!”

    I’ve likely suggested this video before; it complements yours but suggests a whole ‘nother dynamic for adjusting the future, one that I think is maybe twice as likely. The visuals, sound, and idea-density are worthy of Guillermo del Toro. Don’t worry about the lyrics.

    • Replies: @Simon in London
  58. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Groovy Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:
    @John Jeremiah Smith

    Assimilation means that Hindu,Korean, Chinese, and Pakistani genelines on US Soil speak English, pay their taxes,and graduate from Stanford,Harvard and Yale….And then on Nov 3, 2016, enthusiastically vote fucking whitey into a violently persecuted racial minority in post-white “America”. In other words, “assimilation” means that its ok for whitey to be voted into racial minority by the model Asains-nothing to worry about.

    If you make the debate pivot on this point, you have lost the debate.

    I don’t wan’t the Asians and Muslims to assimilate…I want them out the US so they can’t vote The Historic Native Born White American Working Class into a violently persecuted racial minority on Nov 3 2016…8pm announcement.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  59. Rex May says: • Website

    Splendid analysis of the Trump phenomenon. Reblogged and quibcagged here:
    http://ex-army.blogspot.com/2016/01/white-interests-of-all-things.html

  60. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @joe webb

    Joe Webb,

    Anatoly Karlin will be debating at a conference open to the public on February 6th in the East Bay:

    http://www.unz.com/akarlin/h-debate-in-sf-east-bay-on-feb-6-2016/

    It would be good if you could attend and debate him, or perhaps protest at the event against Karlin’s anti-Eurocentrism.

  61. AmericanaCON [AKA "ConservativeThinker"] says:
    @epochehusserl

    The modern welfare or “social state” was first created in Germany in the 1870 by conservative chancellor Otto Von Bismarck and then spread across Northern Europe. It was a development from previous social programs and poverty laws. Previous programs and laws tended to hold people in poverty. These programs and laws was actually one of the many incentives which made the working and middle class to flee to United States (and Colonies) were their labour and skills were in demand. The “Social State” was actually created to give incentives to people not to migrate to the Americas but to stay and work.

    Was it successful? Well, it can be discussed. America adopted a similar system in the 1930s. The American welfare state is not a product of colored minorities. It was the white working class which supported an increase of government spending to raise their standard of living on the back of the higher classes and manufactures. However, United States had a significantly smaller welfare state than Northern Europe. After the WW2 political elites has turned the welfare state into a cliental system consisting of handouts and socialization. It also became a lucrative business for the middle class working in government or for the business people involved in the New Public Management (MPM). The current political elites (since the 1960s) see the welfare state as a tool to gather support among minorities before elections.

    They believe if they just give people handouts they will vote for them. It has been very successful all over the Western world. In the same time the middle class working in it and corporations tend to like the Welfare State because government is their customers. As the social capital all over the western world is plummeting because of liberal elite policy – there have been two responses. One side argues for a smaller welfare state and the other side argues that foreigners which have not contributed should not have stake in it and shouldn’t be able to join. The liberal academic elite call these people for “welfare chauvinists”. Chauvinism is of course a derogatory term – calling people on the right for evil. In the end the problem with the welfare state is how it has been constructed since after the WW2 and not that minorities support it.

  62. @JackOH

    Charlotte twilight described it as participatory fascism.

  63. @John Jeremiah Smith

    Thanks for the tip but I don’t object to Priss/Dominique posts, indeed I have copied and forwarded several. This is an American website that mainly covers American issues so what could be more American (which I am not) than having an opinion and being able to air it?

    Priss/Dominique (if indeed they are one and the same) often sees a very broad picture and has made me cringe, laugh out loud and nod my head in agreement on countless occasions. There is also a moral thread running through the posts whether or not one agrees with all of the points made.

    I don’t claim to agree with everything anyone on here writes but I enjoy the discourse and the smarter commenters become recognisable as such as do those with an globalist, unAmerican bias and agenda. If one truly loves their country they should criticise and chastise it when it is in the wrong, blind patriotism has done more harm than good in the USA. Cheers.

    • Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith
  64. @Reg Cæsar

    Nothing is funnier than the truth! Nice one Reg.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  65. MarkinLA says:
    @John Jeremiah Smith

    Why do Chinese buy liquor stores? Why do Indians own all the 7-11s? Why do only Chinese work in Chinese-owned liquor stores, and only lower-caste Indians work in 7-11s?

    The same reason they start restaurants – its a mostly cash business. Some get reported to uncle sam and some stays in the pocket. Some EBT cards get swiped at full price some at a discount depending on what was bought.

    • Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith
  66. @Priss Factor

    I thought some white people, namely those on the left, just look for the good (”or’ sympathetic) black folks. Blacks are more emotionally intense than NW whites. Non-thuggish black people tend to be very charm and sympathetic and still we have some blacks who will be very very good people, exactly because this higher emotional intensity, the difference between a jazz singer and a thug ”sometimes’ is just a one or two degree, the same popular and charming (sympathy) personality.

    I thought east asians tend to attrack different types of white people, underlying personality similarities stuff.

    The huge problem, not just among blacks, but in all populations, generally, will be the men personality diversity and (specially) their extremes assholes, BUT still the average men will be more problematic than women.

    Women are much more less violent and problematic than men, on average.

    The ”men problem” and specially, the alpha ones, is underlying (yes, two repetitions of this word, 😉 ). Is not just or fundamentally a ”jewish problem”, ” negro problem” or ”white problem” but men problem, who are more engaged in violent-behaviors, that violates the sacred harmonic territorial dynamics..

    And ultimately a ”problem-problem”. men is in the second place on this ”problem-ranking”.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  67. dcite says:
    @in the middle

    Violence for entertainment in the media contributes, but “gangsterism”, meaning a high violent crime rate, way pre-dates the types of media you cite. It was just more contained because there was segregation, and we didn’t have their images forced in our faces and their ghastly “music” in our ears 24/7.

  68. Numinous says:
    @John Jeremiah Smith

    only lower-caste Indians work in 7-11s

    You can make out an Indian person’s caste by looking at him/her? Do you have some kind of….errr….radar?

  69. @NoseytheDuke

    Thanks for the tip but I don’t object to Priss/Dominique posts, indeed I have copied and forwarded several.

    Understood. I disagree with your justifications, but I recognize your position, and accept your demurral. IMO, Priss has said everything he has to say, many, many times, with only trivial variation.

  70. @MarkinLA

    The same reason they start restaurants – its a mostly cash business. Some get reported to uncle sam and some stays in the pocket. Some EBT cards get swiped at full price some at a discount depending on what was bought.

    Of course. It’s what they would do in India and China, but the margins are significantly higher.

    My point, which I failed to make, is that these “immigrants” remain primitive tribalists. They have no nationalism; they have no pride of progress and accomplishment; they have no sense of history, destiny and purpose; they accept and desire nothing but earthly treasure.

  71. Corvinus says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    You and your partner Reg could learn a thing or two about how to engage in discourse.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  72. Trumped says:
    @ilana mercer

    As a fellow paleo libertarian and supporter of Trump, I agree with everything you said. Also, a case could be made – and has been by Rothbard and Hoppe – that unless mass immigration is stopped, there is zero chance for a libertarian society with respect for private property rights, and true freedom of association.

    Gun rights groups besides GOA need to understand this point, too. The NRA foolishly believes immigration is not gun related, despite immigrants being anti gun by a 7 to 1 margin in polling. if we do not stop immigration, then the rest of our individual causes are irrelevant – and the left will win on everything.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    , @jtgw
  73. Anonymous • Disclaimer says: • Website

    Subversion in the U.S.A.

    There is a movement of subversion in this country using so-called constitutional lawyers, constitutional conservative radio and talk show hosts and major media outlets to re-educate the American public. Its time to find some OLD History and Civics textbooks and learn the truth. Get out there and do your own research. Do not take their word for it.

    One good example is the so called Constitutionalists pushing an Article 5 convention which will destroy the Constitution. To understand why visit: Constitutional Conventions/Article V Convention/Nullification

    Another good example is the so called Constitutionalists and their desired Candidates trying to change the 200 year old definition, taught in schools when I was a student, of Natural Born Citizen to one that not only gave us Obama and, if they can get everyone to believe them will destroy the reason and safeguard of electing a candidate LOYAL only to the United States of America. To learn the true definition of Natural Born Citizen and why a candidate for President must be one visit: U.S. Citizen.

    Then there are the ones that wish to destroy the 2nd amendment and take away an American’s tool to defend themselves against a Government of Tyranny and against criminals in self-defense. To learn your 2nd amendment RIGHTS and why the Founders knew we needed them visit: 2nd amendment

    Here are some more examples of Subversion The 1963 Communist Goals to take over America:

    15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

    16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

    17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

    18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

    20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

    21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

    26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”

    27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a “religious crutch.”

    28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”

    29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

    30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man.”

    31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the “big picture.

    The above are just a few, keep your eyes, ears and mind open. And always BEWARE when they tell you its for your safety, etc.. Then read and learn the Constitution. The Founders wrote the Constitution to limit and define the powers of YOUR government.

  74. it takes a lot of guts to publish an article like that. Hats off, Mercer.

    I saw a few nasty comments, don’t pay attention to the ankle biters.

  75. @David

    “That was interesting. I bet a lot of younger types find that pretty inspirational. ”

    Yeah, there’s a lot of energy in the young Alt Right these days.

  76. Discard says:
    @Rehmat

    I see, all those millions of Irish and Italians and Slavs that came here in the 19th Century didn’t build industrial America, it was the thousands (hundreds?) of Chinese, Hindus, Africans, and Moslems that lifted us up from the plow.

    Young people waste four years and go deep into debt to learn this?

  77. Discard says:
    @Numinous

    Doesn’t their caste define their employment? If you’re a merchant, you’re a member of a merchant caste?

    • Replies: @Numinous
  78. Romanian says:
    @in the middle

    I have to disagree with you. The areas taken over by Americans were mostly empty and undeveloped. Texas is one example. This is why Anglo colonists were tolerated, to introduce the settled areas into productive circuit. That they turned around and declared independence should be a lesson for everyone. Of course, if a huge area has only a few thousand inhabitants, then you can say that the culture of the area is that defined by the majority group, regardless of how small it actually is.

  79. @Numinous

    You can make out an Indian person’s caste by looking at him/her? Do you have some kind of….errr….radar?

    Of course. From your question, I assume that you, on the other hand, cannot. Skin color, physiognomy and surname are usually sufficient.

    • Replies: @Numinous
  80. @Rehmat

    First, it would be difficult to be more sexually perverse, emotionally stunted, and vicious to women as Africans, Indians, Muslims. And don’t even try calling porn a whit thing, because everyone in the world is into that vice.

    Second, what the Hell are you even talking about? All of us would be AHEAD of where we are if there no Africans in the USA and never had been. As for Muslims, their role in founding, expanding, and advancing American civilization was nearly nil historically.

    I know highly intelligent, productive, hard-working, capable people of many non-white races — Africans almost excluded — and respect them for it. That includes my wife. But I won’t pretend that non-whites contributed as much to my country or to the world as whites did; that’s something that people like you can pretend if your insecurities or racial envy require it.

    • Agree: John Jeremiah Smith
  81. @Numinous

    The people working in 7-11 are often relatives of the owners. They are often Punjabi Sikhs. I don’t know what that tells you about their caste, but some of them were quite successful in India and bring money here to invest. I don’t want them here, i’m just saying that we don’t know they’re lower caste and I kinda doubt that most of them are.

  82. @Trumped

    YES. Immigration policy is not just “one issue.” Immigration creates permanent residents, then citizens, then registered voters, by the tens of millions.

    Immigration determines WHO will be voting and legislating on EVERY issue.

    So while I agree very strongly with Rand Paul on everything except immigration and the Muslim ban, his libertarianism makes him suicidally naive on those issues and he won’t be even trying to do enough on that front if elected. To the extent that trump offers the only foreseeable likely way to get a president who pushes and pushes for a ban on Muslims and an end to the Mexican invasion, Trump’s the guy.

    • Replies: @trumped
  83. @War for Blair Mountain

    YES. I don’t want millions of such people in my country, even if they express their resentment of my race and my family and my historic NATION in fluent English, pay taxes, and channel their violence and theft through government rather than doing it in the streets themselves.

    • Replies: @Ace
  84. @Santoculto

    Black “women” in the USA are dangerous, volatile, and quite ready to use physical force. They are not as different as their men as you think.

    • Replies: @Santoculto
  85. Clyde says:
    @jtgw

    Maybe it’s time to acknowledge that you’re just a Buchananite populist.

    Territorial animals. America is my tribe. Xenophobe too. Nothing wrong with this

    • Replies: @jtgw
  86. Clyde says:
    @RadicalCenter

    The people working in 7-11 are often relatives of the owners. They are often Punjabi Sikhs.

    Did you see the owner of the 7-11 in California where one of the three winning Powerball tickets were sold? He is very dark from the subcontinent. Sikh? http://gosporttimes.com/2016/01/16/who-are-the-3-winners-of-the-1-6-billion-powerball-jackpot/
    He gets one million dollars.

    • Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith
  87. jtgw says: • Website
    @Clyde

    My question is why she still identifies as a libertarian, when she supports someone who is so obviously un-libertarian.

  88. jtgw says: • Website
    @Trumped

    My understanding of Hoppe’s anarcho-capitalist critique of open borders is that immigration policy, just like any other policy, cannot be carried out in a competent fashion by a centralized state. If the federal government decides to open borders, that violates the rights of everyone who doesn’t want immigrants, but if the government closes borders, that violates the rights of those who do want immigrants. Trump just offers a closed-border version of statism, which is still statism.

    Hoppe suggested that one way for the state, however crudely, to capture the externalized costs of immigration was to impose a simple entrance fee. I would add that immigrants could either pay the fee themselves, or private interests could pay the fee on their behalf. If George Soros really wants Western nations to accept however many millions more immigrants, then he is welcome to pay their fees.

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/10/hans-hermann-hoppe/open-borders/

    • Replies: @trumped
  89. Numinous says:
    @Discard

    That correlation stopped having much meaning a long time time ago.

    • Replies: @Ace
  90. Numinous says:
    @John Jeremiah Smith

    Surname….perhaps, though lots of people stopped using their caste names a while ago. Features, no. I can show you many dark-skinned Brahmins and light-skinned Dalits. This born and bred Indian sees little correlation today between one’s occupation, one’s physical features, and one’s ancestral caste. You are way behind the times.

    • Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith
  91. @RadicalCenter

    The people working in 7-11 are often relatives of the owners. They are often Punjabi Sikhs. I don’t know what that tells you about their caste, but some of them were quite successful in India and bring money here to invest.

    Merchant caste and below.

    Among early Indian immigrants, common surname was “Patel”. Patels are high-caste, right below Brahmins. Back in the 70s, they had the money to send their kids to the USA, paving the way for a massive influx of their relatives and servants (lower castes they employ in various roles). Indian upper-castes sent their kids to University of New Delhi, free tuition. Those graduating engineers and mathematics majors swarmed the US market in the late 70s and 80s.

    Merchant castes arrived — they bought the 7-11 and motel franchises. There are very few motels in the USA that are currently owned by Americans. The moteliers brought in more lower castes to serve as motel staff in cleanup and maintenance roles. When you check into an Econolodge these days, chances are the bright-eyed light-skinned girl behind the counter is a merchant-caste Indian, commanding a staff of lower-caste quasi-illegals brought in as servants in the guise of “family”.

  92. @Numinous

    This born and bred Indian sees little correlation today between one’s occupation, one’s physical features, and one’s ancestral caste. You are way behind the times.

    [Shrug] You are entitled to express your opinion, however inaccurate. I have watched the Indian invasion of the US since 1975. I am not fooled, and your mischaracterizing does not fool me, either.

    Now, I will say that Sikhs are a somewhat different breed, and far superior to the caste-oriented run-of-the-mill Indian. Not that Sikhs are not caste-aware, certainly they are, but Sikhs are decent people, by and large. Certainly, the USA needs no more Indians, Sikh or otherwise.

    • Replies: @Numinous
  93. @Clyde

    Did you see the owner of the 7-11 in California where one of the three winning Powerball tickets were sold? He is very dark from the subcontinent. Sikh?

    The owner, maybe, but he did not look much like a Sikh. His employee was very obviously low-caste.

  94. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Priss Factor

    People recognized you as that well known degenerate liberal fantasizer called Pissing&Shitting Factory. And I concur, even though I only once in a month come here, but did post once before and I do think I remember your degenerate Anglo nature — i.e. you — well. Listen, Piss&Shit Factory! Listen to the words of the great Zionists of the last century, Israel Cohen (1879-1961):

    “We must realize that our party’s most powerful weapon is racial tensions. By propounding into the consciousness of the dark races that for centuries they have been oppressed by whites, we can mold them to the program of the Communist Party. In America we will aim for subtle victory. While inflaming the Negro minority against the whites, we will endeavor to instill in the whites a guilt complex for their exploitation of the Negroes. We will aid the Negroes to rise in prominence in every walk of life, in the professions and in the world of sports and entertainment. With this prestige, the Negro will be able to intermarry with the whites and begin a process which will deliver America to our cause.”

    Do you “get it” now, Muricunt? You are just being conditioned like cattle which you are. You Muricunts, and indeed all liberal Westerners, are very simple, dull, dumb, stupid, ignorant, extremely gullible mammals, and Zionist banksters together with their goyim servants are raping you in your stupid heads for over a century! Without identity as a people, you have been an easy pray for the Khazarian cabalist mafia. A perfect pray for brainwashing those ignorant, stupid and gullible libtards are! Your pussified, soft, timid, cowardly nature, which has turned you into libtard cattle, certainly has not helped you there, although I am sure you are exaggerating and misrepresenting European-Muricunts’ losses.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  95. trumped says:
    @jtgw

    Check out Hoppe’s chapter on immigration in Democracy: The God That Failed. He calls for govt agents to deport illegals specifically bc they were invited by the state and not the free market – at least as long as a govt exists. By its very definition, immigration in its current form is centrally planned. An ancap society devoid of the state would be extremely closed off – unless one had permission to be on private property, one could not immigrate.

    • Replies: @jtgw
  96. trumped says:
    @RadicalCenter

    http://www.vdare.com/posts/flailing-rand-paul-goes-full-cuckservative-trump-must-be-stopped-but-paleo-libertarianism-may-emerge-from-wreckage

    Agreed. And nice to see someone at vdare realizes we are still around! I think most of Ron’s supporters (myself included) were of the paleo libertarian variety, but DC and the GOP got its hooks into Rand and turned into a left libertarian sissy boy. What a shame!

    Ron still has had tremendous influence – like Dave Brat’s campaign manager being a paleolibertarian.

  97. jtgw says: • Website
    @trumped

    I’ll check it out, though your summary suggests a fallacy: if the immigrants are illegal, then the State specifically did not invite them, and if whatever the State does is illegitimate, then we should want the illegal immigrants to stay! I expect that’s not what Hoppe intended to say, however.

    I would also hesitate to say that those whom the State allows entry are by definition not invited by the market. The fact of illegal immigration suggests, on the contrary, that at some level the market is demanding immigrants that the law will not permit, though the State may be unwilling or unable to control their entry. The issue does get difficult when we try to unpack the many ways in which State interference distorts market incentives and stimulates demand for immigration that might not otherwise exist. But that goes for any other aspect of the market.

    • Replies: @trumped
  98. Wikipedia has deleted “working class whites” and “white working class” articles the two times it has been created. It is now categorized as an article for “speedy deletion” when it is created because “scholars” do not reify the concept.

    Think about that….

  99. Svigor says:

    I wonder if any of these poor, working class whites ever considered that Trump would have little to do with any of them in his personal life – except perhaps to work at one of his construction sites, casinos or golf courses.

    Furthermore, none of these poor, working class whites can afford to live in any of the buildings with Trump’s name.

    Trump is doing nothing but exploiting anger over real – and perceived – problems facing middle class Americans. He is offering no substantive solutions.

    I wonder if you folks will ever get tired of making the same tired, useless assaults on Trump, in the pansy language of the concern troll.

    Yes, we’ll take the guy who’s promising us something, over the guy who isn’t. Next stupid question?

    We don’t want to hang out with Trump.

  100. Svigor says:

    Had it not been the immigrants from China, India, Africa and Muslim countries, the White folks in the US and Canada would still be chasing and slaughtering Red Indians and Buffalos like their ancestors.

    Stupid Muslim doesn’t even try to make sense. Sleazy Chinese, Indians, Africans, and Muslims only want to come here because white men did all the real work.

  101. Numinous says:
    @John Jeremiah Smith

    As the cliche goes, you are entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts. You know zilch about India and Indians, and have made up a pleasing narrative that..surprise, surprise….conforms to your prejudices. Your ignorance shines brightly through your comments. It’s not my business to interfere with your internal thought processes (or your political objectives), but when you spread misinformation and bullshit on online forums, I’m damn well going to call you out on it. Anyway, I’m done on this thread. Have a nice day!

  102. @Corvinus

    Well thank you for your “valuable” opinion. I’m learning something every single day. You would possibly benefit from a little learning yourself but that’s your business.

    Partner is not a term that I would use in this instance but that you would use it probably says more about you than it does me. Reg simply followed your advice to ignore your post and stated that he generally ignores your posts anyway and I agreed that I do too. I don’t know about Reg but I just don’t find any value in them. Please don’t be upset, it’s possible that others here do.

  103. @Anonymous

    Call me psychic if you like but I don’t think that you are the sort of person that I will be inviting over for tea!

    • Replies: @Jim Christian
  104. Discard says:
    @Numinous

    I know enough about Dot Indians to know that I don’t want them here. You people no more belong here than Rudyard Kipling belonged in India. I’ve seen the contempt your people have for working class Whites like myself, and I’ve seen how that contempt changes when you see me with a book, that is, when you see me at an upper-caste activity. (That’s why Whites with office jobs can bear you. They are your social equals and you don’t let your disdain show.) You don’t like us, you are not us, when you have the money you isolate yourselves from us, and you’d be perfectly happy for us all to disappear as long as we left the infrastructure.

  105. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Forgot to enrich my previous post addressed to liberal Western fag Pissing&Shitting Factory with some video content demonstrating my point.

    This is a video of a big Afro-Muricunt fighter Bobb Sapp, the beast of almost 2 meters and 165 kg, being beaten like a pussy he is:

    And this one is an amateur video of a small guy knocking out a big one:

    Muricans are libtards that Jews turned into pussies. Degenerate sexual deviants, stupid, ignorant, arrogant, gullible, cowardly creatures is what you are. Liberal trash!

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Truth
  106. @RadicalCenter

    Of course there a lot of evil black women (than compared with other groups, specially east asians and europeans and, seems, more among NW) but it doesn’t mean that no there a clear difference between men and women in all populations. In Brazil i’m talking about mixed race women and not just black. Here ”we” have the same conclusion about higher proportion of anti-social people even among (black) women. I see it all the time, a very exaggerated extroversion, without limits and (or) morality.

    ”Black women in the USA are dangerous”

    100% of them**

    Remember, what’s matter for me is the semantic precision of reality or truth. Good blacks are the first victims of their bad apples. Good blacks tend to think similarly like you, they desire just a peacefull life but they tend to be mistaken by the false idea of ”black community solidarity”. And yes they are a minority, because there a greater broader spectrum of anti-social traits among them if the selective epicenter is the ”macho territorial personality or psychology”.

    Even i agree partially with about ”they are not as different as their men as you think” this doesn’t mean that they are not different, not much (black women tend to be a less- calamitous version of the ir men, as well happen in all populations, or tend to happen) but this ponctual difference between sexes is universal and validate my emphasis on ”men problem”.

    People who accuse women emancipation as a the cause of western decadence just think that women don’t know nothing at macro-social scale without men permission, unfortunately, this is a sad reality.

  107. JackOH says:

    Ilana, have you thought of you and a few other “UR” contributors meeting with Candidate Trump to introduce yourselves, summarize your work and your audience, and offer your services to articulate specific policies and specific legislation?

    I’ve been reading “UR” for a few months, and my personal feeling is some of the ideas talked about here are ready to be offered to a mainstream candidate such as Trump.

  108. @Numinous

    You know zilch about India and Indians

    Observation doesn’t count?

    Indians should stay in India.

  109. @Anonymous

    the beast of almost 2 meters and 165 kg, being beaten like a pussy he is:

    The real pussy is the one using meters and kilograms. (Though at least it was changed from “metres”.)

  110. trumped says:
    @jtgw

    “Illegal” in name only – if laws arent enforced, amnesty is promised, birthright citizenship given to children, and countless taxpayer subsidized benefits are provided, it is hard to suggest the state did not invite them.

    As far as the market drawing the immigrants – Hoppe’s point is that if no government existed, then the immigrants would not be arriving in current form. Why? Because taxpayers would not be providing food, schools, hospitals, etc – someone would have to pay for it instead of relying on theft of middleclass taxpayers.

    Simply because immigrants are arriving does not suggest the market is driving it. Is the market also driving blacks to sit on welfare and have children out of wedlock, or is it driven by govt welfare policy? Mass immigration from third world people is essentially another centrally planned form of welfare. Someone else is paying for it, just like the inner city welfare system.

    • Replies: @jtgw
  111. @Ralph Raico

    Thanks, Dr. Ralph Raico, much appreciated.

  112. jtgw says: • Website
    @trumped

    The market is driving it to the extent that the immigrants are participating in voluntary exchange of goods and services. This does not include use of taxpayer-provided services, which are provided from the forcible acquisition of others’ goods, but it does include wherever immigrants take jobs, purchase goods, rent or buy homes etc etc. This isn’t to say that Hoppe is wrong that taxpayers are subsidizing immigration, but it would be wrong to say that no immigration would occur without the subsidy. I think we just don’t know how much immigration there would be without the welfare state. A blanket moratorium on immigration just seems to err at the opposite extreme; a better approach, short of doing the proper thing and abolishing the welfare state completely, would be to deny immigrants access to any publicly funded services, or charge them a fee for them, and also to abolish birthright citizenship for children of illegal immigrnts.

    • Replies: @trumped
  113. @Bragadocious

    The ingrates wish to be left alone, and if you would please take your fifth column of atlanticists with you when leaving, like the british took their loyalists to Canada, we will gladly deal with our own –as opposed to your – problems on our own.
    Thank you very much, sir.

  114. Ace says:
    @RadicalCenter

    I met a very intelligent and pleasant E. Indian woman in D.C. years ago. She was an ardent socialist and had zero appreciation for freedom. She was a citizen by that time. No doubt she passed her citizenship test with flying colors.

    Our obsession with foreigners has led to millions of such people injecting themselves into our polity. Yes, it was much more their choice than ours and we certainly were only kidding when we required the citizenship test. The changes in 1965 insanely ensured that the most dissimilar and unassimilable people poured into the country. As others have pointed out here, fluency in English and other attributes of Americans did not change the underlying basic attitudes.

    I think that was not the case in the older generations. The new one has seen fit to organize Asian civil rights groups with unconcealed hostility to whites. We hand out security clearances to them though. Because they’re “Americans” and we’re saps. Propositional nation and all that.

    We used to care that immigrants assimilate. Now it’s a matter if indifference to us. If every Olympic event tested some aspect of being a sap, we’d take gold in every one.

  115. Ace says:
    @Numinous

    Not if you’re a Korean in Japan.

  116. Truth says:
    @Anonymous

    “This is a video of a big Afro-Muricunt fighter Bobb Sapp, the beast of almost 2 meters and 165 kg, being beaten like a pussy he is:”

    So I guess you could handle him?

  117. trumped says:
    @jtgw

    I see what you are saying now. Hoppe has not argued that all immigration would end, but that it would be very different and very closed off compared to now. If property owners were 100% responsible for the immigrants they invited over then we would see an entirely different type of immigrant. Employers are able to pay very low wages bc of the subsidies – free housing, school, healthcare, and food allows for low wages to be acceptable – the wages would be much higher in an anarcho capitalist society. And if companies are paying high wages, they have to have high productivity or else they will go bankrupt. Illiterates who have ten kids would be a net drain to those paying the bills, just as they are now – except the property owners would be on the hook.

    Our immigration system is a lot like our banking system now – the profits are capitalized but the risks and losses are all socialized and covered by the middle class.

  118. @Bliss

    Social benefits are whitey’s wealth, dum dum. In addition, SS etc. are earned benefits.

  119. Nappyman says:

    As a Black Man I love articles like this.So Blacks are criminal animals who prey on White Women.
    LMBAO. Working class whites are killing themselves at rates not seen since the aids epidemic.
    Your jobs go to Mexicans or are shipped overseas.What’s so funny is that you do it to yourselves.Suicide.Drug overdose and voting for the GOP.
    Laugh My Black Ass Off.Ha ha ha ha ha ha .Oh I have to stop it hurts.

    • Replies: @jtgw
  120. jtgw says: • Website
    @Nappyman

    You may not realize it from Ilana’s divisive rhetoric, but liberty would actually make blacks better off, too. The elites keep trying to play whites off against blacks, but that’s only to distract them from the truth. How have 50 years of welfare been for blacks, eh? Look up the work of Thomas Sowell: black living standards were increasing fast up until the War on Poverty, and then they stagnated.

    I don’t agree with Ilana that Trump is what our country needs. I think our country needs liberty, and authoritarians like Trump are not going to deliver that. What’s hurting the US economy is not foreigners but disastrous fiscal and monetary policies.

    • Replies: @Nappyman
    , @dahoit
  121. Nappyman says:
    @jtgw

    Welfare my ass I’m laughing again. No welfare here not for four generations of hard work and family business.Try to be a little smarter and come up with something original. The same old “Welfare Queen” line will not work here.Thomas Sowell needs to do as my wife and I are doing engage young people and teach them how to work .Not provide talking points for the political and cultural right.

    • Replies: @jtgw
    , @Reg Cæsar
  122. jtgw says: • Website
    @Nappyman

    I don’t understand why you don’t like Sowell, since you seem to be living proof that he’s correct. Blacks CAN be independent, if the government would only let them.

  123. dahoit says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    I would say the whole working class,white,black and brown.

  124. dahoit says:
    @jtgw

    Zionists aint foreigners?Jeez.

  125. @Truth

    Yay or nay on this, Truth?

  126. Damn is Trump frustrating. He’s the only candidate in years who is serious about enforcing immigration law. Good. But his bellicose nature makes me very worried about which new wars he’ll get us into. He says we “gave” $100 billion to Iran. Actually, as part of the new nuclear deal, we unfroze $100 billion of the Iranian’s own money in foreign accounts, money that had previously been frozen by sanctions. He keeps saying he’ll make the military so strong that nobody will dare attack us. Actually, we already spend as much on our military as the next seven or eight highest spending nations. We already have a military that can destroy any country we want to destroy. Our problem is our disastrous foreign policy, not a weak military. For a man who rightly objected to the Iraq War and also rightly objected to the intervention that took out Qaddafi, he seems too eager to get in a fight with Iran.

    I think we should just outsource our foreign policy to Putin, who acts like a grown up, and concentrate on fixing our problems at home.

    I also don’t like the way Trump called Edward Snowden a traitor. He is a hero who did what he did to defend the 4th Amendment. The traitors are in congress and the White House.

    If you survive the combat-to-coffin career path, your love of community will need to encompass a million immigrants, each and every year, who’ll have the run of your schools, hospitals, libraries, parks and workplace.

    Actually legal immigration is now closer to 2 million a year. And congress will only vote to increase it, never decrease it.

  127. @Nappyman

    Thomas Sowell needs to do as my wife and I are doing engage young people and teach them how to work.

    Sowell turns 86 this year, and he has already done the work of engaging young people and teaching them how to work– his own. Read Late-Talking Children.

  128. @NoseytheDuke

    Hey, if he’s ever in Boston, I have a Samuel Adams and a lobster for him. Scroo tea! Ha!

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