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“Taking a knee” stands for the specter of beefy, pampered athletes—they’re not sportsmen—wealthy beyond belief, striking a political pose on the football field, during the playing of the national anthem.

First to kneel when he was meant to stand was Colin Kaepernick. The reason the San Francisco 49er knelt, in 2016: “I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color.”

Like Kaepernick, current kneelers are not Copernicus. It’s hard to fathom what they actually want. A non-player activist has since narrowed the kneeling to “ending the killing of black men and black women by the police.”

To question the debasing of the English language, in this context, is probably considered racist, but I’ll take one for Team English. At first, I knew not what on earth “take a knee” meant. Commentators and anchors discussed this god-awful expression without explaining it. And my connection to American football is as weak as the connection Americans have to one another.

I grew up on a sports diet of basketball and real football—the kind Pelé played without a dog muzzle and with dazzling footwork. South African rugby, too, was faster and more fun than American football. Nevertheless, I root for my home team, the Seattle Seahawks.

Why so? We all inhabit this busy mart called America, but are united by nothing meaningful at all. The football fetish in America has intensified in the context of a country whose inhabitants agree on little else than the importance of The Game. Consequently, come playoff time, we come together fleetingly and superficially, to make a religion out of our respective professional football teams.

“Take a knee” must have originated in some linguistic botching, a lazy collapsing of alliteratively related words and phrases. I mean, you can “kneel,” “kneel down,” or “get down on your knees.” You most certainly can “bow down” or “take a bow.” But, “Take a knee”? It sounds like an adaptation from “take a p-e.” Actually, I’m not far off. The Giants’ Odell Beckham Jr. “had been flagged … for unsportsmanlike conduct when he celebrated a touchdown by impersonating a dog urinating.”

English and etiquette aside, the act is melodramatic. You get down on your knees to pray, to beg for forgiveness or beg for your life. What these N.F.L showmen are doing is strike a pose—choreographed for prime-time television. When the players kneel, link arms, sulk in their locker-rooms, during the playing of the national anthem, they’re acting not as sportsmen but as showmen.

A sportsman used to embody a certain set of shared values. He set an example in his steeliness, resiliency, strength and singular focus. The spoilt men of the N.F.L. stand unafraid in the presence of … what? American moms, dads and their kids?

What we have here are men who belong to a fraternity famous not for good works, but for scandals, excesses and brutality. Ray Rice knocked his wife unconscious on camera, Michael Vick ran an unspeakably cruel dog-fighting ring. Adrian Peterson whipped his son (who probably needed it). Aaron Hernandez and Jovan Belcher committed the ultimate sin. On and on.

The most righteous players of the showy pro football lineup are not those parading their pigment burden to the nation; they’re sportsmen like Aaron Rodgers, Eli and Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, and Tom Brady, who give oodles to charity without a song and dance.

To be fair, Colin Kaepernick has recently donated $1 million. It’s safe to assume, however, that not a penny did Kaepernick donate to white families whose sons were killed by cop. For example: Erik B. Scott, a decorated ex-Army officer, West Point grad and Duke University MBA, who was shot to death by Las Vegas cops. Erik’s father, Bill, is an ex-USAF officer and former aerospace journalist, who consults on the topic of police brutality. But while Bill, a rightist, seeks justice for all, the National Football League racists care only for their own tribe. Likewise, the Left awakens to “the epidemic of police brutality in every state of the union” only when black lives are concerned.

The tribalism of “kneelism” sums up the state of the progressive project. Like the Antifa Idiocracy, N.F.Lers are generally not the smartest. Bereft of the faculty of logic or reason, these excitable, histrionic hulks can’t debate or argue effectively. Lacking words or wisdom, the kneelers resort to inappropriate displays and gestures aimed at the self, at self-aggrandizement.

Kneeling is the ultimate selfie, beamed to the country and blasted by the president himself.

In more ways than one, “taking the knee” is like taking a p-e. It’s a waste. It speaks to the inward-looking, ego-driven, vain posturing of the Left and its perpetually seething, predatory racial coalition. They’re bent on extracting something from innocent, ordinary Americans who owe them nothing.

Pontificating about patriotism is probably misplaced. The opening ritual at the taxpayer-subsidized pro football games is no more than a test of manners and etiquette. The Black Lives Matter players are expected to make nice during the national anthem, nothing more: “Stand up straight and don’t pull faces.” You needn’t believe in the song; you just have to be polite about it. Even if he opposes the monarchy, the British republican still musters a bow or a curtsy for the queen. He has the good breeding to respect protocol and the feelings of others.

Partaking in civilization entails knowing there is a time for everything. There is a time for activism and a time to do what you’re paid to do.

Mostly, pro football players are just fools and possibly knaves. Underpinning their cretinous case against “America” is a confusion of category. Kneelers are protesting “a country that oppresses black people and people of color.”

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A country—America in this case—can’t oppress people; only specific individual Americans can. Erik Scott’s story is the story of the best of America gunned down and rubbished by the worst. Did his father, Bill Scott, blame all his countrymen? No. Braveheart Bill pursued the culprit and the cops who covered for him.

You can’t blame a collective for harm done to you, unless each individual within that collective has harmed you. Seattle Seahawks: There was no need to insult the fans in Nashville—where my former team played the Tennessee Titans—unless each one of them had damaged you in some palpable, provable way.

The Seahawks dissed the fans to show they “oppose those that [sic] would deny our most basic freedoms.” But which fan in that Nashville stadium denied any one of the Seahawk players his “most basic freedoms”? Number and name them or shut up and play.

Ilana Mercer has been writing a weekly paleolibertarian column since 1999, and is the author of The Trump Revolution: The Donald’s Creative Destruction Deconstructed (June, 2016) & Into the Cannibal’s Pot: Lessons for America From Post-Apartheid South Africa (2011). Follow her on Twitter, Facebook,Gab & YouTube

 
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  1. SMK says: • Website

    Cheers to Ilana, as brilliant as she’s beautiful -and, more importantly, she’s honest, realistic, and courageous, not afraid to tell the truth and be vilified as a “racist” and “white supremacist,” perhaps even a “Nazi.” Savor the irony.

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    • Replies: @TheJester
    Ilana can't be a "racist", a "white supremacist", or even a "Nazi". She's Jewish; her father was a rabbi. This status is social body armor that ensures that, regardless of what she says, she is on the side of sweetness and goodness and cannot be a target of ad hominem invective.

    The status allows Ilana to say things that need to be said sans the invective from Hasbara that would otherwise drown the airways.

    I like Ilana's spunk. She reminds me of Kathy Shaidle, the Canadian blogger ... pure piss and vinegar.
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  2. “Taking a knee” seems to have started with Tim Tebow, the super religious quarterback from Florida who would take a knee before games to pray for victory, or that he did not get hurt, or that he did not hurt anyone, or to pray for the opposition–who knows what he was really praying for?

    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/brady-quinn-slams-tim-tebow-gq-interview-fans-picked-denver-broncos-starting-qb-article-1.1026333

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    • Replies: @RobinG
    So "Taking a Knee" started before the Fake Patriotism --

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_ilVrMaNvM&t=0s
    The REAL NFL/National Anthem Story that Should INFURIATE You!!
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  3. SMK says: • Website

    What they’re protesting is the right of police to shoot and kill black criminals in self-defense so as not to be murdered or gravely injured. And what they’re demanding, in effect, is the right of blacks to resist arrest and assault and kill police without punishment -though even the players with the lowest IQ’s aren’t stupid enough to say this explicitly- and the right of blacks to commit violent and other mala in se crimes without being punished or at least not punished “disproportionately.” Virtually all blacks and left-liberals know or affect to believe that blacks are no more violent and criminal than whites; they’re just far more likely to be “profiled,” harassed, “stop and frisked,” arrested, prosecuted, convicted, and imprisoned. And if they concede that blacks as a group are more violent and criminal, they explain such disparities as a corollary of “racism” and “the legacy or slavery and segregation” that have nothing to do with innate differences or the portrayal of blacks as victims and the demonization of whites as victimizers by black demagogues and the left-liberal establishment.

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    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
    In most of these police shootings there is no threat, just the delusion that the cop going home unscratched is more important than the rights or life of a citizen. There is no war on cops. There is a war by cops upon the American people. If there was a war on cops, they would know it because none of them would make it home at end of shift.
    , @Colleen Pater
    Our president might be stupid enough to say whats really happening its about the only thing hes good for but these days thats a lot.
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  4. Renoman says:

    I don’t watch sports, if I did I’d stop.

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    • Agree: jim jones
    • Replies: @uslabor
    Hey, Good For You, now pat yourself on the back. As if we care.
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  5. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    Taking a knee is essentially the authorized rest position during football practices. If you’re on the sidelines in high school football, you’re permitted to take a knee, but if you were to sit on your ass other otherwise relax you’d get an earful.

    It’s also a way to make it easier for the whole team to hear what the coach is saying — the first few rows take a knee, so the ones in back can better hear and see.

    That’s pretty much it. Kaepernick took a knee because it wasn’t standing. Another player decided to stretch during the anthem last Sunday.

    As for Beckham, in the past, the Giants wouldn’t tolerate that sort of behavior, even from a star player. If I were them, I’d trade him for a couple of 1st rate offensive linemen.

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    • Replies: @alexander
    Right you are, David.

    Taking a knee is the standard rest position in Pro football.

    In high school football, it is also the position players take on the field when there is an injury or "man down", from either team.

    If I understand the facts correctly,Kaepernick "lost his job" because he chose not to stand last year for our anthem, in protest of what he saw as excessive police violence against people of color.

    I imagine this "firing" has been quite controversial, especially within the league and among the players, the staffs and the owners.

    The collective kneeling moments, launched by many teams across the league last week,and endorsed by their owners, seemed to carry a fascinating meaning .

    They seem to acknowledge Kaepernick, who , standing for what he believed in by not standing, ,became a "man down".

    ie, a player "taken off the field".

    So, just as in high school, but on a symbolic level, they took the knee in full respect for the "man down".


    The entire controversy is fascinating in itself, because of the rather unique intersection between public and private space that is a football stadium during, before, and after a game.

    If one acknowledges that a football stadium is privately owned, which it is, then the owners of both the players and the stadium have a say in what can and cannot go on inside them.

    One of the thorny issues regarding Kaepernick, is whether there was a clause in his contract forbidding him from kneeling during the anthem.

    If there was...it means one thing.

    If there wasn't....it means something else.

    Another thorny issue is whether a stadium owner, or team owner is required to play the anthem at all.

    Another thorny issue is the contractual obligations between players ,owners, networks and advertisers, in regards to the freedoms each may, or may not, exercise at any given time.

    If a stadium and team owner, were to play , let's say, "Thriller" by Michael Jackson, instead of our National Anthem, would he have a contractual obligation to notify his advertisers before hand, or the air force ?
    Would he have a right to fire a player if the player chooses not to dance to it ?....Could he be forced by law to refund tickets to fans who objected and wanted their money back?

    As contracts are reviewed, between owners, players, networks and advertisers after the" Kaepernick Moment"...how they are "revised" could well be an excellent lesson in constitutional law, contractual law, and the property rights of everybody involved.
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  6. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Hunting the strained alliteration = UR’s weekly crossword. Today, extra credit for every extra “p”:

    “… parading their pigment … sums up the state of the progressive project. .. Pontification about patriotism is probably misplaced. .. palpable, provable way.”

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  7. Realist says:

    The disrespect for the flag and National Anthem are disgraceful, but is by no means a problem worthy of the President’s attention. Trump has many issues of importance to attend to…..like any of his campaign promises he has broken (most). He needs to get busy doing something useful.

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    • Replies: @Mr Worldwide
    Please do tell what campaign promises he has broken? Appointing conservative judges... check. TPP gone.... check. Donating his presidential salary...check. implementing his policies on immigration.... check. Just to name a few things and by the way ill also throw in that economic growth is up to 3.1%. Remember all those financial experts saying it was impossible. Hahaha and why are you talking about broken promises when he is only in his first year. His supporters knew they wouldnt get everything that he said he was going to do but just going on what has been achieved so far it's fairly good. Will see if all these rinos can be primaried and more trump republicans elected to take on the uniparty repubs and dems.
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  8. mcs_in_ny says:

    While I’m not by any means an expert on the etymology of the term, I am fairly certain that ‘taking a knee’ predates Tebow by decades. I believe it refers to the practice by a team on offense of not running an actual play, but the quarterback taking the snap and immediately touching his knee to the ground in order to end the play. This is usually done at the end of a game with time running out by a team that is ahead in the score in order to a) avoid the perception that they are trying to run up the score if they are comfortably ahead, or b) to avoid a turnover which could allow the opposing team a chance to tie or win the game.

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    • Replies: @anonymous
    OK, but knee still rhymes with pee.
    , @denjae
    Instead of wasting the readers time, Ilana might have asked almost any more-than-half-way-with-it American male over the age of -- say 60 -- to have 'splained "take-a-knee" just as you did here.

    Instead, she chose to beat a catchy phrase to death -- playing at not knowing -- while simultaneously attempting to dazzle us with her world-wide knowledge of other-than-Merican sports.
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  9. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @mcs_in_ny
    While I'm not by any means an expert on the etymology of the term, I am fairly certain that 'taking a knee' predates Tebow by decades. I believe it refers to the practice by a team on offense of not running an actual play, but the quarterback taking the snap and immediately touching his knee to the ground in order to end the play. This is usually done at the end of a game with time running out by a team that is ahead in the score in order to a) avoid the perception that they are trying to run up the score if they are comfortably ahead, or b) to avoid a turnover which could allow the opposing team a chance to tie or win the game.

    OK, but knee still rhymes with pee.

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  10. denjae says:
    @mcs_in_ny
    While I'm not by any means an expert on the etymology of the term, I am fairly certain that 'taking a knee' predates Tebow by decades. I believe it refers to the practice by a team on offense of not running an actual play, but the quarterback taking the snap and immediately touching his knee to the ground in order to end the play. This is usually done at the end of a game with time running out by a team that is ahead in the score in order to a) avoid the perception that they are trying to run up the score if they are comfortably ahead, or b) to avoid a turnover which could allow the opposing team a chance to tie or win the game.

    Instead of wasting the readers time, Ilana might have asked almost any more-than-half-way-with-it American male over the age of — say 60 — to have ‘splained “take-a-knee” just as you did here.

    Instead, she chose to beat a catchy phrase to death — playing at not knowing — while simultaneously attempting to dazzle us with her world-wide knowledge of other-than-Merican sports.

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    • Agree: Intelligent Dasein
    • Replies: @Wally
    So what?

    She made her point rather well.
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  11. They’re bent on extracting something from innocent, ordinary Americans who owe them nothing.

    Exactly. If they were protesting the evils of empire and the police state I would join them. But they are protesting whiteness. Fuck them.

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    • Agree: Travis
    • Replies: @utu
    The Black White divide at work. It always works. They are playing you guys like a violin. This Zionista who wrote this article is one of those who keep playing you. Next you will celebrate the evils of empire and the police state just because, right? Slavery is the gift that keeps on giving. The slave masters always on the top. The effectiveness and the easiness of this trick made the lords of Europeans envious so they decided to emulate American masters by bringing Africans and Muslims to Europe. Mono-ethnic and mono-cultural societies had too much cohesion and solidarity to be played like you fools.
    , @Wally
    'Analysis of Washington Post police-shootings data reveals surprising result – nearly 2x more whites than blacks shot by police'

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/07/18/analysis-of-washington-post-police-shootings-data-reveals-surprising-result/

    excerpts:
    - For every 10,000 white people arrested for a violent crime, 38 white people were killed by police.
    - For every 10,000 hispanic people arrested for a violent crime, 21 hispanic people were killed by police.
    - For every 10,000 black people arrested for a violent crime, 21 black people were killed by police
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  12. “Taking a knee,” what a pretentious dorky way to say kneeling.

    This is how they thank admiring White fans who made them multi-millionaires.

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  13. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Those “admiring White fans who made them multi-millionaires” are the problem.

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    • Agree: Realist
    • Replies: @Pat Kittle
    Admiring Whites are 1/3 of the problem.

    The other 1/3 is anti-White media hype, which has an agenda all its own.
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  14. @anonymous
    Those "admiring White fans who made them multi-millionaires" are the problem.

    Admiring Whites are 1/3 of the problem.

    The other 1/3 is anti-White media hype, which has an agenda all its own.

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  15. Nation just getting dumber

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    • Replies: @Pat Kittle
    Affirmative action in action.
    , @Rod1963
    She has all the earmarks of a Mecha or Atzlan member. Virulently anti-white and pro-race war. The good news is that most of them are so damn stupid that they drop out of college by the 2nd year with a ton of student debt. And even if this beast graduates it would be in some fake field like Chicano studies, that was created for stupid minorities who couldn't major in English or Pol Sci.

    Still consider her the face of California's future. A state full of stupid, violent people with no impulse control and on the dole for life.
    , @uslabor
    This is lousy, a complete attempt to shut down freedom of speech. I hate it, she's an extremist SJW.

    But the extremists on the other side aren't any better.
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  16. @Priss Factor
    Nation just getting dumber

    https://twitter.com/nontolerantman/status/913663148917493760

    Affirmative action in action.

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  17. BAMMAMA or blacks are more muscular and more aggressive. Why allow a stronger & more savage people into your nation?

    In the video, white guys are afraid to intervene because they know blacks are tougher and will kick their butts.

    BAMMAMA leads to ACOWW or Afro-Colonization of White Wombs. As blacks beat white guys, white women lose respect for white men and lust after black thugs. White manhood cannot co-exist with black thuggery.

    I fully support the KNEE-GROES. Make them antagonize whites. There is no reason white males should be watching NFL that is about BAMMAMA and ACOWW.

    It is anti-white, and whites need to wake up. So, I support Negro hostility that wakens whites.

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  18. The thing we have to understand about blacks is their reactions and responses are very elemental. They evolved with wild animals, and their mode of being is survival than existence. Blacks don’t think, “To be or not to be, that is the question” or “I think, therefore I am.” They think “I be if I run from a hippo, I not be if it done stomp me upside my head.” They feel, “I run, therefore I be.”

    For 1000s of yrs, white folks evolved in an environment without constant direct dangers. So, there was room for thinking and pondering. Blacks evolved in a world of survival against lions, hyenas, baboons, buffaloes, elephants, crocodiles, hippos, warthogs, leopards, gorillas, cobras, mambas, gophers, and etc. And because this mode of survival made blacks savage and wild, it was a chore to survive against other Negroes.

    So, black emotions and responses are very elemental and not suited for reflection, contemplation, or introspection.
    Imagine an antelope in Africa. Suppose it sees something strange, which could be danger. If it ‘thinks’ about it, it could be dead, killed by the predator. So, its survival depends on the immediate response of flight, not curiosity. And blacks developed the same responses. If they saw a lion or hippo, it was fight or flight. Chuck a spear or chuck yourself outta there. There was no time for safari shi*.

    So, there is a kind of elemental ‘wisdom’ in black emotional reactions. It’s like Beavis and Butthead are savant-ish ‘wise’ because they are so dumb. Having no intellect and reflection, they go for the occam’s razor of what seems most obvious, like ‘boing’. And they are right half the time.

    Likewise, there’s an elemental truth about how blacks see the world. It may not be deep or profound, but it has elemental truth… like ‘run like a mothafuc*a’ when they see danger. Don’t think about it. Just run to save your ass. Or “ni**a’s craaaazy.” No need to psychoanalyze the Negro. Just notice his craziness and either run from it or blow his ass away with a piece.

    So, blacks are very adept at elemental survival… but when it comes to complex issues of history, society, ethics, morality, and such, their elemental reactions and responses fall way short. Their responses to such matters are overly fight-or-flight.

    This habit of yelling ‘racist, racist, racist’, is just a verbal form of spear-chucking. It’s not thought. It’s “Here’s a spear for your ass, whitey. I wants more gibs-me-dat.” It’s a form of hunting.
    The entire world and morality is a b/w stark struggle of fight or flight according to blacks. It’s “If we don’t chuck at a spear at the big white elephant, it will stomp our ass and turn us into slaves again.”
    The world is either a threat or a gibs-me-dat.

    Some say blacks fail at dealing with complexity because of lower IQ, but there are blacks with higher IQ, but their attitudes are much the same. Why? Their emotions outrun their intelligence. So, even if they are just as smart as whites or even smarter, their emotions are still stuck in ‘chuck a spear’ or ‘run like mofo’ mentality. This is why even smart blacks like Cornel West and Michael Dyson sound just like rappers.

    It’s like rap is useless for conveying ideas since the emotions always outrun thought. And in black churches, sheer volume counts more than content of what is said.

    White and black history in the US is complex. There was much tragedy for blacks, but there was also much triumph due to contact with white civilization, the most advanced in the world. But blacks don’t have the emotional traits that can deal with this complexity.

    Whites are better adept at dealing with complex issues. But whites also have their own pathologies that prevents them from dealing with reality in a truthful way.
    One is intellectualism. Sometimes, the danger is so obvious and palpable, but many whites prefer intellectual interaction than decisive action to deal with the problem. Intellect can lord over the needs of body’s well-being. This preference for higher intellect has its counterpart in the sense of higher morality or spirituality. This higher morality favors sanctimony over survival. This kind of whites will risk the very survival of West just to atone for ‘racism’.

    Consider the creature in Howard Hawks’ THE THING, the original movie. It is clearly a danger to mankind, but the scientist-guy risks everything to study it than working with others to kill it. And he even turns moralist and believes it is better for man to die at the hands of such ‘higher’ creature.

    See how that foolish ‘liberal’ scientist acts? A Negro would be better off in such a situation: Chuck a spear or run like a mothafuc*a.

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    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    As is, that would make a wonderful NYT op-ed!
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  19. @Priss Factor
    The thing we have to understand about blacks is their reactions and responses are very elemental. They evolved with wild animals, and their mode of being is survival than existence. Blacks don't think, "To be or not to be, that is the question" or "I think, therefore I am." They think "I be if I run from a hippo, I not be if it done stomp me upside my head." They feel, "I run, therefore I be."

    For 1000s of yrs, white folks evolved in an environment without constant direct dangers. So, there was room for thinking and pondering. Blacks evolved in a world of survival against lions, hyenas, baboons, buffaloes, elephants, crocodiles, hippos, warthogs, leopards, gorillas, cobras, mambas, gophers, and etc. And because this mode of survival made blacks savage and wild, it was a chore to survive against other Negroes.

    So, black emotions and responses are very elemental and not suited for reflection, contemplation, or introspection.
    Imagine an antelope in Africa. Suppose it sees something strange, which could be danger. If it 'thinks' about it, it could be dead, killed by the predator. So, its survival depends on the immediate response of flight, not curiosity. And blacks developed the same responses. If they saw a lion or hippo, it was fight or flight. Chuck a spear or chuck yourself outta there. There was no time for safari shi*.

    So, there is a kind of elemental 'wisdom' in black emotional reactions. It's like Beavis and Butthead are savant-ish 'wise' because they are so dumb. Having no intellect and reflection, they go for the occam's razor of what seems most obvious, like 'boing'. And they are right half the time.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoS1MCF8AeI

    Likewise, there's an elemental truth about how blacks see the world. It may not be deep or profound, but it has elemental truth... like 'run like a mothafuc*a' when they see danger. Don't think about it. Just run to save your ass. Or "ni**a's craaaazy." No need to psychoanalyze the Negro. Just notice his craziness and either run from it or blow his ass away with a piece.

    So, blacks are very adept at elemental survival... but when it comes to complex issues of history, society, ethics, morality, and such, their elemental reactions and responses fall way short. Their responses to such matters are overly fight-or-flight.

    This habit of yelling 'racist, racist, racist', is just a verbal form of spear-chucking. It's not thought. It's "Here's a spear for your ass, whitey. I wants more gibs-me-dat." It's a form of hunting.
    The entire world and morality is a b/w stark struggle of fight or flight according to blacks. It's "If we don't chuck at a spear at the big white elephant, it will stomp our ass and turn us into slaves again."
    The world is either a threat or a gibs-me-dat.

    Some say blacks fail at dealing with complexity because of lower IQ, but there are blacks with higher IQ, but their attitudes are much the same. Why? Their emotions outrun their intelligence. So, even if they are just as smart as whites or even smarter, their emotions are still stuck in 'chuck a spear' or 'run like mofo' mentality. This is why even smart blacks like Cornel West and Michael Dyson sound just like rappers.

    It's like rap is useless for conveying ideas since the emotions always outrun thought. And in black churches, sheer volume counts more than content of what is said.

    White and black history in the US is complex. There was much tragedy for blacks, but there was also much triumph due to contact with white civilization, the most advanced in the world. But blacks don't have the emotional traits that can deal with this complexity.

    Whites are better adept at dealing with complex issues. But whites also have their own pathologies that prevents them from dealing with reality in a truthful way.
    One is intellectualism. Sometimes, the danger is so obvious and palpable, but many whites prefer intellectual interaction than decisive action to deal with the problem. Intellect can lord over the needs of body's well-being. This preference for higher intellect has its counterpart in the sense of higher morality or spirituality. This higher morality favors sanctimony over survival. This kind of whites will risk the very survival of West just to atone for 'racism'.

    Consider the creature in Howard Hawks' THE THING, the original movie. It is clearly a danger to mankind, but the scientist-guy risks everything to study it than working with others to kill it. And he even turns moralist and believes it is better for man to die at the hands of such 'higher' creature.

    https://youtu.be/XjuLZwlDxh8?t=1m22s

    See how that foolish 'liberal' scientist acts? A Negro would be better off in such a situation: Chuck a spear or run like a mothafuc*a.

    As is, that would make a wonderful NYT op-ed!

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  20. From my blog:

    Sep 30, 2017 – Fire Goodell!

    I will not trouble readers with yet another opinion on this mess, but allow me to offer facts. The NFL operations manual states:

    “The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem. During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.”

    If NFL no longer supports this rule, then change it! If it doesn’t like the National Anthem, then don’t play it! Players can engage in any politics they wish to outside of their place of employment. When people show up at work they can’t say or do whatever they want. These players are at work and in uniform. Why was this rule not enforced? Players are fined for wearing the wrong color of socks, excessive celebrating, and making rude gestures. So why wasn’t this rule enforced when first violated a year ago? Will players begin to protest by giving a political speech in front of cameras after every touchdown? What about wearing a “Cops Suck” sicker on their helmet? That would be “free speech.”

    How can some play the race card in a league that is 68% black supported by white fans who provide the vast majority of their earnings. I agree the problem of income inequality and police brutality needs to be addressed, but no one protested during the eight years when President Obama was in office. Finally, why protest the Anthem, a song about fighting for independence from Great Britain? This only makes sense if a player is a descendant of British Loyalists who sided with the English King during the Revolutionary War.

    After criticism from President Trump, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell announced: “Divisive comments like these demonstrate an unfortunate lack of respect for the NFL, our great game and all of our players, and a failure to understand the overwhelming force for good our clubs and players represent in our communities.” This is a classic example of institutional narcissism. The Commissioner and his players each earn millions of dollars a year, yet demand respect? They are not volunteers helping the poor. They do not produce food or fight fires or arrest criminals. They are highly paid entertainers who love what they do! Now they are less entertaining, so will earn less as many fans protest by watching another sport or college football instead. 

    Goodell doesn’t seem to realize that half the nation voted for Trump, and they constitute the majority of his fan base. He should have used Trump’s attack as an opportunity to correct the problem, citing the rule on the books and saying it will be enforced in future games with fines or suspensions. Goodell could encourage players to use their wealth to support efforts for political change on their free time, but remind everyone that the NFL is not a political organization and will not be used to promote political agendas. Goodell proved incompetent already and should be replaced by someone who understands business and common sense.

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  21. This is closer to Taking a Pee.

    A Literal Pussy Riot.

    Will the West champion this like it did the Pussy Riot in Russian Church?

    http://metro.co.uk/2017/09/29/woman-who-exposed-her-genitals-in-front-of-mona-lisa-to-be-prosecuted-6964212/?ito=facebook

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  22. utu says:
    @WorkingClass

    They’re bent on extracting something from innocent, ordinary Americans who owe them nothing.
     
    Exactly. If they were protesting the evils of empire and the police state I would join them. But they are protesting whiteness. Fuck them.

    The Black White divide at work. It always works. They are playing you guys like a violin. This Zionista who wrote this article is one of those who keep playing you. Next you will celebrate the evils of empire and the police state just because, right? Slavery is the gift that keeps on giving. The slave masters always on the top. The effectiveness and the easiness of this trick made the lords of Europeans envious so they decided to emulate American masters by bringing Africans and Muslims to Europe. Mono-ethnic and mono-cultural societies had too much cohesion and solidarity to be played like you fools.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGoYBJvPEdY

    ...All until the last line though. Ever heard of serfs?
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  23. wayfarer says:

    Well the MSM continues to help advance a self-serving NWO divide-and-conquer agenda, as it shines a bright spotlight on some gay NFL prima donnas, creating artificial rage and distraction, while ignoring for the most part one-million people who’ve become homeless literally overnight in Puerto Rico and other Caribbean island nations, victims of the recent category-5 hurricanes.

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    Guess what. You live in a hurricane region, you will get hurricanes.

    The low IQ PR should have been prepared ages ago.

    Now they use it as an excuse get even more free stuff.
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  24. Wolff says NFL is a ‘surrogate’ identity for white people who really need to wake up.

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  25. Wally says:
    @WorkingClass

    They’re bent on extracting something from innocent, ordinary Americans who owe them nothing.
     
    Exactly. If they were protesting the evils of empire and the police state I would join them. But they are protesting whiteness. Fuck them.

    ‘Analysis of Washington Post police-shootings data reveals surprising result – nearly 2x more whites than blacks shot by police’

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/07/18/analysis-of-washington-post-police-shootings-data-reveals-surprising-result/

    excerpts:
    - For every 10,000 white people arrested for a violent crime, 38 white people were killed by police.
    - For every 10,000 hispanic people arrested for a violent crime, 21 hispanic people were killed by police.
    - For every 10,000 black people arrested for a violent crime, 21 black people were killed by police

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    What about trans people? Please provide data for ALL genders. Okay. Thank you.

    And also, who are you voting for? Choose now.
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  26. RobinG says:
    @Jonathan Mason
    "Taking a knee" seems to have started with Tim Tebow, the super religious quarterback from Florida who would take a knee before games to pray for victory, or that he did not get hurt, or that he did not hurt anyone, or to pray for the opposition--who knows what he was really praying for?


    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/brady-quinn-slams-tim-tebow-gq-interview-fans-picked-denver-broncos-starting-qb-article-1.1026333

    So “Taking a Knee” started before the Fake Patriotism –

    The REAL NFL/National Anthem Story that Should INFURIATE You!!

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    Good video.

    Unfortunately, my friend, the coterie of alabaster knee-grows who make up the Unzista community are too stupid for it.

    I've tried.
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  27. @Realist
    The disrespect for the flag and National Anthem are disgraceful, but is by no means a problem worthy of the President's attention. Trump has many issues of importance to attend to.....like any of his campaign promises he has broken (most). He needs to get busy doing something useful.

    Please do tell what campaign promises he has broken? Appointing conservative judges… check. TPP gone…. check. Donating his presidential salary…check. implementing his policies on immigration…. check. Just to name a few things and by the way ill also throw in that economic growth is up to 3.1%. Remember all those financial experts saying it was impossible. Hahaha and why are you talking about broken promises when he is only in his first year. His supporters knew they wouldnt get everything that he said he was going to do but just going on what has been achieved so far it’s fairly good. Will see if all these rinos can be primaried and more trump republicans elected to take on the uniparty repubs and dems.

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    Agreed.

    And the alternative was Hillary / Pillary.
    , @Realist
    "Donating his presidential salary…check."

    How magnanimous .

    "...economic growth is up to 3.1%."

    That's not economic growth. That is the GDP for one quarter...you need to see what GDP measures. Middle class wages are still extremely low. The labor participation rate is terrible.

    Here are campaign promises he has failed on:
    No end to Obama Care.
    No border wall
    No lessening of involvement in Middle East. In fact escalation.
    No improvement in Russian relations. In fact Trump has worsened relation to the lowest point in decades.
    Budget not balanced.
    Trump promised that every single undocumented immigrant - of which there are 11.3 million - "have to go". Total failure.
    No pressure on NATO members to pay their way.
    No pressure on China to stop currency manipulation.
    No prosecution of Clinton....or any democrat law breakers including James Comey
    No infrastructure rebuilding
    And he is about to break his tax cut promise through compromise.
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  28. Che Guava says:

    Made a comment on this on the iSteve blog. Phone is on slow mode, battery low, but summary:they look ridiculous, as if on some kind of starting line (though they seem to have realised this, bowed heads now).

    If they want to make their silly statement, they should spray themselves with fake blood, then playing dead on the sidelines.

    Kaepernik should anglicise the surname of his adoptive parents to ‘Capers’, adopt the weird pronunciation of Colin Powell (‘colon’) for his Christian name, expressing his true black man spirit, then he will be ‘Colon Capers’, very apt.

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  29. It’s Dain Brammage.

    Even the Gladiators of Rome pitted against one another to the death are reputed to have faced their Emperors or Proconsuls or Governors and state, “We who are about to die salute you.”

    It’s time to go Roman on these pansies and bring back gladatorial combat to the death … you can bet that is where the real sports lucre will flow.

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  30. alexander says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Taking a knee is essentially the authorized rest position during football practices. If you're on the sidelines in high school football, you're permitted to take a knee, but if you were to sit on your ass other otherwise relax you'd get an earful.

    It's also a way to make it easier for the whole team to hear what the coach is saying -- the first few rows take a knee, so the ones in back can better hear and see.

    That's pretty much it. Kaepernick took a knee because it wasn't standing. Another player decided to stretch during the anthem last Sunday.

    As for Beckham, in the past, the Giants wouldn't tolerate that sort of behavior, even from a star player. If I were them, I'd trade him for a couple of 1st rate offensive linemen.

    Right you are, David.

    Taking a knee is the standard rest position in Pro football.

    In high school football, it is also the position players take on the field when there is an injury or “man down”, from either team.

    If I understand the facts correctly,Kaepernick “lost his job” because he chose not to stand last year for our anthem, in protest of what he saw as excessive police violence against people of color.

    I imagine this “firing” has been quite controversial, especially within the league and among the players, the staffs and the owners.

    The collective kneeling moments, launched by many teams across the league last week,and endorsed by their owners, seemed to carry a fascinating meaning .

    They seem to acknowledge Kaepernick, who , standing for what he believed in by not standing, ,became a “man down”.

    ie, a player “taken off the field”.

    So, just as in high school, but on a symbolic level, they took the knee in full respect for the “man down”.

    The entire controversy is fascinating in itself, because of the rather unique intersection between public and private space that is a football stadium during, before, and after a game.

    If one acknowledges that a football stadium is privately owned, which it is, then the owners of both the players and the stadium have a say in what can and cannot go on inside them.

    One of the thorny issues regarding Kaepernick, is whether there was a clause in his contract forbidding him from kneeling during the anthem.

    If there was…it means one thing.

    If there wasn’t….it means something else.

    Another thorny issue is whether a stadium owner, or team owner is required to play the anthem at all.

    Another thorny issue is the contractual obligations between players ,owners, networks and advertisers, in regards to the freedoms each may, or may not, exercise at any given time.

    If a stadium and team owner, were to play , let’s say, “Thriller” by Michael Jackson, instead of our National Anthem, would he have a contractual obligation to notify his advertisers before hand, or the air force ?
    Would he have a right to fire a player if the player chooses not to dance to it ?….Could he be forced by law to refund tickets to fans who objected and wanted their money back?

    As contracts are reviewed, between owners, players, networks and advertisers after the” Kaepernick Moment”…how they are “revised” could well be an excellent lesson in constitutional law, contractual law, and the property rights of everybody involved.

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    Kapernick also lost his job because he wasn't very good. He's a subpar quarterback, and was given numerous extra chances in the league to improve---because of his race. Had he been white, he wouldn't have lasted this long. Many lefties have considered a black takeover of the QB position critical in the next phase of ethnic cleansing of whites, and have pushed very hard for it. Unfortunately, they haven't yet found the Great Blackquarterback; a few have been decent (McNabb, Doug Williams), but most have been flameouts or journeymen (Vick, Cam Newton, Kapernick). But ALL have been very overhyped.
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  31. TheJester says:
    @SMK
    Cheers to Ilana, as brilliant as she's beautiful -and, more importantly, she's honest, realistic, and courageous, not afraid to tell the truth and be vilified as a "racist" and "white supremacist," perhaps even a "Nazi." Savor the irony.

    Ilana can’t be a “racist”, a “white supremacist”, or even a “Nazi”. She’s Jewish; her father was a rabbi. This status is social body armor that ensures that, regardless of what she says, she is on the side of sweetness and goodness and cannot be a target of ad hominem invective.

    The status allows Ilana to say things that need to be said sans the invective from Hasbara that would otherwise drown the airways.

    I like Ilana’s spunk. She reminds me of Kathy Shaidle, the Canadian blogger … pure piss and vinegar.

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    (((Ilana Mercer))) and her rabbi father were kicked out of South Africa for their anti-apartheid work.

    She wrote a book "Into the Cannibal's Pot." She and her father gather the kindling to light the fire under the pot and then threw white South Africans into it.

    Typical Jewish degeneracy.
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  32. Ilana here cements her reputation as a writer of incoherent dreck which she spices up just past the point of insipidity with hints of sexual innuendo. She needs a man badly. She needs to get licked up and tossed by an intellectual superior whom she can support rather than try try to be intellectual herself.

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    Ilana, where should this gentleman send his resume?
    , @Vinteuil
    Getting anywhere with your "long pondered" magnum opus, my friend?
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  33. @SMK
    What they're protesting is the right of police to shoot and kill black criminals in self-defense so as not to be murdered or gravely injured. And what they're demanding, in effect, is the right of blacks to resist arrest and assault and kill police without punishment -though even the players with the lowest IQ's aren't stupid enough to say this explicitly- and the right of blacks to commit violent and other mala in se crimes without being punished or at least not punished "disproportionately." Virtually all blacks and left-liberals know or affect to believe that blacks are no more violent and criminal than whites; they're just far more likely to be "profiled," harassed, "stop and frisked," arrested, prosecuted, convicted, and imprisoned. And if they concede that blacks as a group are more violent and criminal, they explain such disparities as a corollary of "racism" and "the legacy or slavery and segregation" that have nothing to do with innate differences or the portrayal of blacks as victims and the demonization of whites as victimizers by black demagogues and the left-liberal establishment.

    In most of these police shootings there is no threat, just the delusion that the cop going home unscratched is more important than the rights or life of a citizen. There is no war on cops. There is a war by cops upon the American people. If there was a war on cops, they would know it because none of them would make it home at end of shift.

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    In most of these police shootings there is no threat
     
    If we are talking about city policing of afros then:
    More folly from sheltered cupcake land, pontificating from afar with make believe. The real violence is in the cities, where over the decades, afros killed more whites (and everyone else) than any other group in this nation. IF you would actually go over the death toll from that, it would be staggering. It is this fanciful political nonsense, that interferes with talking about real (adult) facts.

    While urban whites are suffering and dying from afro atrocities, anarchos & libs talk nonsense. [But there is always tension between real world empirical experience as compared to book smart intellectual theory... the problem is that booksmart people want the realist to ignore their own hard earned experiences to the contrary of book smart theories.]

    , @Stripes Duncan
    Go out and do the job. Go on, day in day out, year in year out, you go out and get lied to by the people you're trying to help, get told your momma's a whore, your sister, your wife, they all want the black dick, get challenged to fights, and always and everywhere maintain the utmost restraint or else a legion of shitlib lawyers will find some nit to pick with the way you do your job. We'll see how long you last up there on that high horse.

    Personally I don't think the police are cleaving enough skulls.
    , @SMK
    You're demented, psychotic, completely delusional and estranged from objective reality. "There is a war by cops upon the American people" -not just blacks, especially black males, as most blacks and white leftists believe, but people of all races and sexes and ages and classes?! Incredibly, you're even more crazy and divorced from reality than the average negro and white left-liberal.
    , @Vinteuil
    If there were "a war by cops upon the American people," then things would be way, way crazier than they are, you silly person.
    , @CCZ
    "In most of these police shootings there is no threat..." means absolutely zero when you are the one to take the bullet.

    September 29, 2017:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MRkH0mjiYk

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  34. joef says:

    to embody a certain set of shared values.

    That is the point…Most afro americans do not embody shared values… even worse the millennials are incorporating afro values … even worse than that, is liberals, leftist, and anarcho capitalist, pontificating from afar, actually believe (because of their sheltered cupcake land existence) that the afros are the victims (when they are the actual perpetrators of violence upon the rest of society).

    My premises have been consistent based on a rational examination of empirical experience. I am not an emotionally invested hater that loves to complain about other people, and is desperately trying to get everyone else to do the same (you frequently read here anti Asians, Hispanics, Jews, Sub Saharan Africans comments. For whatever perceived complaints there are against these people, they are nothing in comparison to the destructiveness of afro americans in general. This is like comparing an annoying pimple to deadly cancer).

    This is not about skin color, or point of origination. If afro americans did not behave badly, there would be nothing of great importance to criticize. However their parasitical antisocial behavior is so great, it is ruinous to the country.

    So my premises are these:

    Afro americans are routinely hostile to the culture that provides for them;

    This animosity is fed by radical leftist;

    Because of this, it does not matter how we feel about them, but how they feel about us (they are the primary aggressors);

    Fifty years of liberal pandering did not work, but in fact only emboldened the afros to act more antisocial towards their host society;

    The afros proportionally kill more American residents than any other group in America (to which everyone is afraid to talk about);

    Afros will never stop making unreasonable demands, and our elected leaders will never stop giving in to those demands (at this point, political party doesn’t matter);

    They economically take more than they provide;

    The welfare state for afros cannot be sustained, (which has bankrupted cities, and is now starting to bankrupt states);

    Emboldened afro animosity will only get worse.

    Make your own conclusions on, if this continues unabated, where this is going (if you are rationally honest with yourself, then the answer is clear).
    So anyone who lived among them in the cities, or carefully observed their actions & demands, should not be surprised by all this.

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    Who’s surprised that Africans are biting the hands that feed them? Their ancestors won the African lottery when they were (1) captured by another tribe and enslaved rather than immediately eaten, (2) shipped west instead of east, (3) shipped north rather than south. From the fortunate 400,000 who were shipped to America, by the end of importation in the early 1800’s due to England’s global embargo on slave trafficking, those 400,000 had multiplied to something like 4,000,000. Amazing how fast they multiply when fed and cared for eh? And in every generation since landing in America, Africans have been healthier and had a higher standard of living than in any other place they have been found. Yet no group, certainly no group lifted from Stone Age cannibal savagery into our glorious Western Civilization and granted equal legal status, has ever committed so much violence against us nor been so outspoken in their ultimate goal of killing us all including children and infants..

    It speaks volumes that the African slaves, when freed, were given the opportunity to go back to Africa and virtually none took that offer. Today, I can see only one peaceful solution to their ever-escalating rhetoric and violence (both rioting and individual), and that is repatriation of Africa’s children to their ancestral homelands in Africa. Pay them to go. Their lifetime societal costs are approaching $1,000,000ea. If it took $10,000,000ea to get them out it would be recovered in a generation.
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  35. TG says:

    I agree with many of the sentiments expressed here, but be warned: we are being trolled.

    The rich and powerful don’t care about NFL players disrespecting or not disrespecting the flag. They care about wasting trillions of dollars on endless pointless winless wars. They care about shoveling trillions of dollars in direct and indirect subsidies to Wall Street. And especially, they care about jamming endless numbers of third-world refugees into the country so that wages can eventually be crushed to the level of Mexico or Brazil. And that’s why they order their employees in the so-called news industry to focus so heavily on symbolic and identity politics issues.

    The so-called ‘liberals’ have been so trolled with symbolic issues like gay marriage that they have long since forgotten about things like prosperity and peace. We should not make the same mistake.

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  36. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    What exactly they’re supposed to be protesting isn’t clear since nobody has articulated anything coherent so far besides some vague notion that blacks are treated badly in this country. In fact blacks are treated exceedingly well and with kid gloves. If some run afoul of the law it’s because of their own misbehavior. No one is dictating their actions but themselves. Anything bad that they incur is self-inflicted. Now might be the time for the majority to move on to other things besides watching thugball. There’s a vast array of other sports out there and perhaps some of these couch potatoes could benefit by actually engaging in some sport. Another thing, just get rid of all the kneelers and bring up the next line of players who’ll appreciate the chance to play. The whole sport has gotten rotten and corrupt.

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  37. WHAt says:

    Author should really awaken to the reality of coming race conflict in US already. This “dems be da real rayciss” spiel will not get you anywhere.

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  38. Wally says:
    @Mr Worldwide
    Please do tell what campaign promises he has broken? Appointing conservative judges... check. TPP gone.... check. Donating his presidential salary...check. implementing his policies on immigration.... check. Just to name a few things and by the way ill also throw in that economic growth is up to 3.1%. Remember all those financial experts saying it was impossible. Hahaha and why are you talking about broken promises when he is only in his first year. His supporters knew they wouldnt get everything that he said he was going to do but just going on what has been achieved so far it's fairly good. Will see if all these rinos can be primaried and more trump republicans elected to take on the uniparty repubs and dems.

    Agreed.

    And the alternative was Hillary / Pillary.

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  39. Wally says:
    @denjae
    Instead of wasting the readers time, Ilana might have asked almost any more-than-half-way-with-it American male over the age of -- say 60 -- to have 'splained "take-a-knee" just as you did here.

    Instead, she chose to beat a catchy phrase to death -- playing at not knowing -- while simultaneously attempting to dazzle us with her world-wide knowledge of other-than-Merican sports.

    So what?

    She made her point rather well.

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  40. Realist says:
    @Mr Worldwide
    Please do tell what campaign promises he has broken? Appointing conservative judges... check. TPP gone.... check. Donating his presidential salary...check. implementing his policies on immigration.... check. Just to name a few things and by the way ill also throw in that economic growth is up to 3.1%. Remember all those financial experts saying it was impossible. Hahaha and why are you talking about broken promises when he is only in his first year. His supporters knew they wouldnt get everything that he said he was going to do but just going on what has been achieved so far it's fairly good. Will see if all these rinos can be primaried and more trump republicans elected to take on the uniparty repubs and dems.

    “Donating his presidential salary…check.”

    How magnanimous .

    “…economic growth is up to 3.1%.”

    That’s not economic growth. That is the GDP for one quarter…you need to see what GDP measures. Middle class wages are still extremely low. The labor participation rate is terrible.

    Here are campaign promises he has failed on:
    No end to Obama Care.
    No border wall
    No lessening of involvement in Middle East. In fact escalation.
    No improvement in Russian relations. In fact Trump has worsened relation to the lowest point in decades.
    Budget not balanced.
    Trump promised that every single undocumented immigrant – of which there are 11.3 million – “have to go”. Total failure.
    No pressure on NATO members to pay their way.
    No pressure on China to stop currency manipulation.
    No prosecution of Clinton….or any democrat law breakers including James Comey
    No infrastructure rebuilding
    And he is about to break his tax cut promise through compromise.

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  41. joef says:
    @Chris Mallory
    In most of these police shootings there is no threat, just the delusion that the cop going home unscratched is more important than the rights or life of a citizen. There is no war on cops. There is a war by cops upon the American people. If there was a war on cops, they would know it because none of them would make it home at end of shift.

    In most of these police shootings there is no threat

    If we are talking about city policing of afros then:
    More folly from sheltered cupcake land, pontificating from afar with make believe. The real violence is in the cities, where over the decades, afros killed more whites (and everyone else) than any other group in this nation. IF you would actually go over the death toll from that, it would be staggering. It is this fanciful political nonsense, that interferes with talking about real (adult) facts.

    While urban whites are suffering and dying from afro atrocities, anarchos & libs talk nonsense. [But there is always tension between real world empirical experience as compared to book smart intellectual theory... the problem is that booksmart people want the realist to ignore their own hard earned experiences to the contrary of book smart theories.]

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  42. Wally says:
    @wayfarer
    Well the MSM continues to help advance a self-serving NWO divide-and-conquer agenda, as it shines a bright spotlight on some gay NFL prima donnas, creating artificial rage and distraction, while ignoring for the most part one-million people who've become homeless literally overnight in Puerto Rico and other Caribbean island nations, victims of the recent category-5 hurricanes.

    http://www.weathernationtv.com/app/uploads/2017/09/222-728x408.png

    Guess what. You live in a hurricane region, you will get hurricanes.

    The low IQ PR should have been prepared ages ago.

    Now they use it as an excuse get even more free stuff.

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    Now they use it as an excuse get even more free stuff.
     
    Yeah, like water and roofing supplies.
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  43. Globalists who funded BLM to the tune of 130 million dollars now accuse Russians of running $100,000 worth of BLM ads on facebook.

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  45. @TheJester
    Ilana can't be a "racist", a "white supremacist", or even a "Nazi". She's Jewish; her father was a rabbi. This status is social body armor that ensures that, regardless of what she says, she is on the side of sweetness and goodness and cannot be a target of ad hominem invective.

    The status allows Ilana to say things that need to be said sans the invective from Hasbara that would otherwise drown the airways.

    I like Ilana's spunk. She reminds me of Kathy Shaidle, the Canadian blogger ... pure piss and vinegar.

    (((Ilana Mercer))) and her rabbi father were kicked out of South Africa for their anti-apartheid work.

    She wrote a book “Into the Cannibal’s Pot.” She and her father gather the kindling to light the fire under the pot and then threw white South Africans into it.

    Typical Jewish degeneracy.

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  46. @Chris Mallory
    In most of these police shootings there is no threat, just the delusion that the cop going home unscratched is more important than the rights or life of a citizen. There is no war on cops. There is a war by cops upon the American people. If there was a war on cops, they would know it because none of them would make it home at end of shift.

    Go out and do the job. Go on, day in day out, year in year out, you go out and get lied to by the people you’re trying to help, get told your momma’s a whore, your sister, your wife, they all want the black dick, get challenged to fights, and always and everywhere maintain the utmost restraint or else a legion of shitlib lawyers will find some nit to pick with the way you do your job. We’ll see how long you last up there on that high horse.

    Personally I don’t think the police are cleaving enough skulls.

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  47. @SMK
    What they're protesting is the right of police to shoot and kill black criminals in self-defense so as not to be murdered or gravely injured. And what they're demanding, in effect, is the right of blacks to resist arrest and assault and kill police without punishment -though even the players with the lowest IQ's aren't stupid enough to say this explicitly- and the right of blacks to commit violent and other mala in se crimes without being punished or at least not punished "disproportionately." Virtually all blacks and left-liberals know or affect to believe that blacks are no more violent and criminal than whites; they're just far more likely to be "profiled," harassed, "stop and frisked," arrested, prosecuted, convicted, and imprisoned. And if they concede that blacks as a group are more violent and criminal, they explain such disparities as a corollary of "racism" and "the legacy or slavery and segregation" that have nothing to do with innate differences or the portrayal of blacks as victims and the demonization of whites as victimizers by black demagogues and the left-liberal establishment.

    Our president might be stupid enough to say whats really happening its about the only thing hes good for but these days thats a lot.

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  48. SMK says: • Website
    @Chris Mallory
    In most of these police shootings there is no threat, just the delusion that the cop going home unscratched is more important than the rights or life of a citizen. There is no war on cops. There is a war by cops upon the American people. If there was a war on cops, they would know it because none of them would make it home at end of shift.

    You’re demented, psychotic, completely delusional and estranged from objective reality. “There is a war by cops upon the American people” -not just blacks, especially black males, as most blacks and white leftists believe, but people of all races and sexes and ages and classes?! Incredibly, you’re even more crazy and divorced from reality than the average negro and white left-liberal.

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    War on cops? How many cops got killed? Over 1000 people are killed in the US by cops every year. This is about 50-70 times higher rate than in Europe. Two times as many whites are killed than blacks. Only 0.3% of policemen who kill are prosecuted. This impunity combined with poor training and adoption of rules of engagement that make deescalation practically impossible drives these shameful statistics.
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  49. utu says:
    @SMK
    You're demented, psychotic, completely delusional and estranged from objective reality. "There is a war by cops upon the American people" -not just blacks, especially black males, as most blacks and white leftists believe, but people of all races and sexes and ages and classes?! Incredibly, you're even more crazy and divorced from reality than the average negro and white left-liberal.

    War on cops? How many cops got killed? Over 1000 people are killed in the US by cops every year. This is about 50-70 times higher rate than in Europe. Two times as many whites are killed than blacks. Only 0.3% of policemen who kill are prosecuted. This impunity combined with poor training and adoption of rules of engagement that make deescalation practically impossible drives these shameful statistics.

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    "Over 1000 people are killed in the US by cops every year. This is about 50-70 times higher rate than in Europe."

    Well, is there any place in Europe that is even remotely comparable to the inner cities of Detroit, Chicago, Saint Louis, Kansas City, Baltimore, Memphis, &c &c &c?

    Suggested answer: NO.

    And is there any known policy that has been tried which reduces the number of people killed by US cops in such places without increasing the overall death-toll?

    Again, suggested answer: NO.
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  50. whorefinder says: • Website
    @alexander
    Right you are, David.

    Taking a knee is the standard rest position in Pro football.

    In high school football, it is also the position players take on the field when there is an injury or "man down", from either team.

    If I understand the facts correctly,Kaepernick "lost his job" because he chose not to stand last year for our anthem, in protest of what he saw as excessive police violence against people of color.

    I imagine this "firing" has been quite controversial, especially within the league and among the players, the staffs and the owners.

    The collective kneeling moments, launched by many teams across the league last week,and endorsed by their owners, seemed to carry a fascinating meaning .

    They seem to acknowledge Kaepernick, who , standing for what he believed in by not standing, ,became a "man down".

    ie, a player "taken off the field".

    So, just as in high school, but on a symbolic level, they took the knee in full respect for the "man down".


    The entire controversy is fascinating in itself, because of the rather unique intersection between public and private space that is a football stadium during, before, and after a game.

    If one acknowledges that a football stadium is privately owned, which it is, then the owners of both the players and the stadium have a say in what can and cannot go on inside them.

    One of the thorny issues regarding Kaepernick, is whether there was a clause in his contract forbidding him from kneeling during the anthem.

    If there was...it means one thing.

    If there wasn't....it means something else.

    Another thorny issue is whether a stadium owner, or team owner is required to play the anthem at all.

    Another thorny issue is the contractual obligations between players ,owners, networks and advertisers, in regards to the freedoms each may, or may not, exercise at any given time.

    If a stadium and team owner, were to play , let's say, "Thriller" by Michael Jackson, instead of our National Anthem, would he have a contractual obligation to notify his advertisers before hand, or the air force ?
    Would he have a right to fire a player if the player chooses not to dance to it ?....Could he be forced by law to refund tickets to fans who objected and wanted their money back?

    As contracts are reviewed, between owners, players, networks and advertisers after the" Kaepernick Moment"...how they are "revised" could well be an excellent lesson in constitutional law, contractual law, and the property rights of everybody involved.

    Kapernick also lost his job because he wasn’t very good. He’s a subpar quarterback, and was given numerous extra chances in the league to improve—because of his race. Had he been white, he wouldn’t have lasted this long. Many lefties have considered a black takeover of the QB position critical in the next phase of ethnic cleansing of whites, and have pushed very hard for it. Unfortunately, they haven’t yet found the Great Blackquarterback; a few have been decent (McNabb, Doug Williams), but most have been flameouts or journeymen (Vick, Cam Newton, Kapernick). But ALL have been very overhyped.

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    Whorefinder,

    On the issue of Kaepernick's abilities as a quarterback, I cannot say he was not a very , very fine quarterback.

    Because he was.

    He played outstanding football in the 49ers 2013 season...about as good as it gets....He displayed a very powerful, accurate arm combined with an explosive ability to run..which was almost unprecedented at the time... He showed his ability, time and again, to read the field and make smart decisions which is the hallmark of all great quarterbacks.....

    I ,for one, was enormously impressed with Kaepernick in 2013.

    I was very surprised that the 49ers could not build on their 2013 season, and do the tweaking they needed to get to and win the Superbowl in 2014.

    But I never blamed Kaepernick for that.

    I do not subscribe to your racist perceptions about black vs. white quarterbacks, so I cannot comment on them.
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  51. Vinteuil says:
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    In most of these police shootings there is no threat, just the delusion that the cop going home unscratched is more important than the rights or life of a citizen. There is no war on cops. There is a war by cops upon the American people. If there was a war on cops, they would know it because none of them would make it home at end of shift.

    If there were “a war by cops upon the American people,” then things would be way, way crazier than they are, you silly person.

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  52. Vinteuil says:
    @utu
    War on cops? How many cops got killed? Over 1000 people are killed in the US by cops every year. This is about 50-70 times higher rate than in Europe. Two times as many whites are killed than blacks. Only 0.3% of policemen who kill are prosecuted. This impunity combined with poor training and adoption of rules of engagement that make deescalation practically impossible drives these shameful statistics.

    “Over 1000 people are killed in the US by cops every year. This is about 50-70 times higher rate than in Europe.”

    Well, is there any place in Europe that is even remotely comparable to the inner cities of Detroit, Chicago, Saint Louis, Kansas City, Baltimore, Memphis, &c &c &c?

    Suggested answer: NO.

    And is there any known policy that has been tried which reduces the number of people killed by US cops in such places without increasing the overall death-toll?

    Again, suggested answer: NO.

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    Blaming it on Black is a favorite copout for police and prison industry apologist.

    Do your own calculation. Subtract from 1000 270 Blacks killed by police. Subtract from the total population of circa 320 million 12.5% of Blacks. And now calculate the rate of killings by police per capita and compare it to Europe. It still will be exceptionally high comparing to Europe. Actually it will 40-58 times higher in Europe. Are you happy with this numbers?

    Or take the incarceration rate in the US which is 720 per 100k which is 5 times higher than in UK (140 per 100k). Blacks constitute 40% of of prison+ jail inmates. If you remove Blacks form the equation you end up still with 3.4 higher rate in the US than in UK. Are you happy with this number?

    And is there any known policy that has been tried which reduces the number of people killed by US cops in such places without increasing the overall death-toll?

    Answer your own question. What is the conversion rate in your demented universe that convert number of people killed by police to people saved? I know part of the equation that if police killed everybody then nobody would be killed by civilians because there would be no civilians left, so certainly you are onto something, Einstein.
    , @joef
    Do not engage utu too much. Although intelligent, he lacks life experience, objectivity, and is obsessed with the idea that 400,000 police officers are all guilty of murder (where is all the bodies?), and everyone that they shot were not involved in any criminality whatsoever. He is a strong believer in collectivist guilt, where one police officer is guilty for every other officer's actions (even when they work for different departments, and never met each other).

    He has some good ideas, but being book smart, without much empirical knowledge (he just regurgitates second hand info), he takes the ideas to the extreme. When you counter his arguments, he will never answer them directly, but just keep repeating his main premises, and then out of frustration will start to attack you personally (For as smart as he is, I guess he never realized that an ad hominem attack is not a valid argument).

    In the end, instead of constructive dialogue, you will be embedded with circular arguments, his implied clairvoyance, and personal attacks (and deep down he may just be a resentful hater, too emotionally invested in his angry positions to make any meaningful objective judgement). I pray that he will find some peace someday.

    , @Truth
    He indicated that 2/3 of police killings are white, so how does this pertain? Are there a lot of white in these inner-cites of which you write?
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  53. people that go against convention for a cause are always pilloried by those to whom the status quo is the only safe environment. and rebels are a threat because they want change.
    if president jerkwhistle hadn’t opened his yapper, this thing wouldn’t be a BIG THING.

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  54. george says:

    “pampered athletes” They more than any Americans exist in the free market. I differ to the free market to choose the level of pampering they get.

    Why is it that NFL has to constantly pledge allegiance and sing patriotic songs when golfers and tennis players don’t? Why do athletes have to pledge allegiance and sing patriotic songs before they begin work and plumbers do not?

    A greater man than I made sense of things before he died:

    National Anthem Adds Little to Sporting Events

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5517421

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  55. It’s just mindless virtue signalling bullshit.

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  56. @joef

    to embody a certain set of shared values.
     
    That is the point...Most afro americans do not embody shared values... even worse the millennials are incorporating afro values ... even worse than that, is liberals, leftist, and anarcho capitalist, pontificating from afar, actually believe (because of their sheltered cupcake land existence) that the afros are the victims (when they are the actual perpetrators of violence upon the rest of society).

    My premises have been consistent based on a rational examination of empirical experience. I am not an emotionally invested hater that loves to complain about other people, and is desperately trying to get everyone else to do the same (you frequently read here anti Asians, Hispanics, Jews, Sub Saharan Africans comments. For whatever perceived complaints there are against these people, they are nothing in comparison to the destructiveness of afro americans in general. This is like comparing an annoying pimple to deadly cancer).

    This is not about skin color, or point of origination. If afro americans did not behave badly, there would be nothing of great importance to criticize. However their parasitical antisocial behavior is so great, it is ruinous to the country.

    So my premises are these:

    Afro americans are routinely hostile to the culture that provides for them;

    This animosity is fed by radical leftist;

    Because of this, it does not matter how we feel about them, but how they feel about us (they are the primary aggressors);

    Fifty years of liberal pandering did not work, but in fact only emboldened the afros to act more antisocial towards their host society;

    The afros proportionally kill more American residents than any other group in America (to which everyone is afraid to talk about);

    Afros will never stop making unreasonable demands, and our elected leaders will never stop giving in to those demands (at this point, political party doesn't matter);

    They economically take more than they provide;

    The welfare state for afros cannot be sustained, (which has bankrupted cities, and is now starting to bankrupt states);

    Emboldened afro animosity will only get worse.

    Make your own conclusions on, if this continues unabated, where this is going (if you are rationally honest with yourself, then the answer is clear).
    So anyone who lived among them in the cities, or carefully observed their actions & demands, should not be surprised by all this.

    Who’s surprised that Africans are biting the hands that feed them? Their ancestors won the African lottery when they were (1) captured by another tribe and enslaved rather than immediately eaten, (2) shipped west instead of east, (3) shipped north rather than south. From the fortunate 400,000 who were shipped to America, by the end of importation in the early 1800’s due to England’s global embargo on slave trafficking, those 400,000 had multiplied to something like 4,000,000. Amazing how fast they multiply when fed and cared for eh? And in every generation since landing in America, Africans have been healthier and had a higher standard of living than in any other place they have been found. Yet no group, certainly no group lifted from Stone Age cannibal savagery into our glorious Western Civilization and granted equal legal status, has ever committed so much violence against us nor been so outspoken in their ultimate goal of killing us all including children and infants..

    It speaks volumes that the African slaves, when freed, were given the opportunity to go back to Africa and virtually none took that offer. Today, I can see only one peaceful solution to their ever-escalating rhetoric and violence (both rioting and individual), and that is repatriation of Africa’s children to their ancestral homelands in Africa. Pay them to go. Their lifetime societal costs are approaching $1,000,000ea. If it took $10,000,000ea to get them out it would be recovered in a generation.

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    Thats the paradox... they hate us so much that they won't leave us alone (because they know they have it too good, while libs actually believe in the professed nonsense of afro oppression, while the leftist coach them). I believe you are correct seeing repatriation as a possible solution to this chronic conflict that the afros have with the rest of America.

    Unfortunately the political will is in very short supply to address this problem, thus we are headed towards economic chaos and afro anarchy (at some point in the future: either years/decades/generation from now?). Afros and leftist continue to drive us toward the cliff (while the libs close their eyes), and eventually we will fall off with them. I see no reversal because the majority of people either have no real experience with it, or ignore it.

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  57. What these N.F.L showmen are doing is strike a pose

    “Ladies with an attitude
    Fellows that were in the mood
    Don’t just stand there, let’s get to it
    Strike a pose, there’s nothing to it – Vogue” Madonna, 1990

    Like Madonna, these NFL players are simply “Voguing”!

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  58. Ray Rice knocked his wife unconscious on camera, Michael Vick ran an unspeakably cruel dog-fighting ring. Adrian Peterson whipped his son (who probably needed it). Aaron Hernandez and Jovan Belcher committed the ultimate sin. On and on.

    Oh, and some former player named O.J. Simpson committed a few sins of his own.

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    "Oh, and some former player named O.J. Simpson committed a few sins of his own."
     
    Yeah, but ask yourself: Who was really the victim in that triangle? Those with the privilege, or the member of an oppressed class?
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    What did Tonya Harding say to Jeff Gillooly?

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  60. CCZ says:
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    In most of these police shootings there is no threat, just the delusion that the cop going home unscratched is more important than the rights or life of a citizen. There is no war on cops. There is a war by cops upon the American people. If there was a war on cops, they would know it because none of them would make it home at end of shift.

    “In most of these police shootings there is no threat…” means absolutely zero when you are the one to take the bullet.

    September 29, 2017:

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  61. alexander says:
    @whorefinder
    Kapernick also lost his job because he wasn't very good. He's a subpar quarterback, and was given numerous extra chances in the league to improve---because of his race. Had he been white, he wouldn't have lasted this long. Many lefties have considered a black takeover of the QB position critical in the next phase of ethnic cleansing of whites, and have pushed very hard for it. Unfortunately, they haven't yet found the Great Blackquarterback; a few have been decent (McNabb, Doug Williams), but most have been flameouts or journeymen (Vick, Cam Newton, Kapernick). But ALL have been very overhyped.

    Whorefinder,

    On the issue of Kaepernick’s abilities as a quarterback, I cannot say he was not a very , very fine quarterback.

    Because he was.

    He played outstanding football in the 49ers 2013 season…about as good as it gets….He displayed a very powerful, accurate arm combined with an explosive ability to run..which was almost unprecedented at the time… He showed his ability, time and again, to read the field and make smart decisions which is the hallmark of all great quarterbacks…..

    I ,for one, was enormously impressed with Kaepernick in 2013.

    I was very surprised that the 49ers could not build on their 2013 season, and do the tweaking they needed to get to and win the Superbowl in 2014.

    But I never blamed Kaepernick for that.

    I do not subscribe to your racist perceptions about black vs. white quarterbacks, so I cannot comment on them.

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    "I do not subscribe to your racist perceptions about black vs. white quarterbacks, so I cannot comment on them."

    Yawn.

    As if such name calling bothers those at unz.com.
    , @Hibernian
    I'll give you this, the Bears would have done better signing him rather than Mike Glennon.
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  62. Or “taking the piss.”

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  63. @E. Rekshun
    Ray Rice knocked his wife unconscious on camera, Michael Vick ran an unspeakably cruel dog-fighting ring. Adrian Peterson whipped his son (who probably needed it). Aaron Hernandez and Jovan Belcher committed the ultimate sin. On and on.

    Oh, and some former player named O.J. Simpson committed a few sins of his own.

    “Oh, and some former player named O.J. Simpson committed a few sins of his own.”

    Yeah, but ask yourself: Who was really the victim in that triangle? Those with the privilege, or the member of an oppressed class?

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  64. utu says:
    @Vinteuil
    "Over 1000 people are killed in the US by cops every year. This is about 50-70 times higher rate than in Europe."

    Well, is there any place in Europe that is even remotely comparable to the inner cities of Detroit, Chicago, Saint Louis, Kansas City, Baltimore, Memphis, &c &c &c?

    Suggested answer: NO.

    And is there any known policy that has been tried which reduces the number of people killed by US cops in such places without increasing the overall death-toll?

    Again, suggested answer: NO.

    Blaming it on Black is a favorite copout for police and prison industry apologist.

    Do your own calculation. Subtract from 1000 270 Blacks killed by police. Subtract from the total population of circa 320 million 12.5% of Blacks. And now calculate the rate of killings by police per capita and compare it to Europe. It still will be exceptionally high comparing to Europe. Actually it will 40-58 times higher in Europe. Are you happy with this numbers?

    Or take the incarceration rate in the US which is 720 per 100k which is 5 times higher than in UK (140 per 100k). Blacks constitute 40% of of prison+ jail inmates. If you remove Blacks form the equation you end up still with 3.4 higher rate in the US than in UK. Are you happy with this number?

    And is there any known policy that has been tried which reduces the number of people killed by US cops in such places without increasing the overall death-toll?

    Answer your own question. What is the conversion rate in your demented universe that convert number of people killed by police to people saved? I know part of the equation that if police killed everybody then nobody would be killed by civilians because there would be no civilians left, so certainly you are onto something, Einstein.

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    thanks for the advice - yeah, utu comes across as a smart guy, but maybe a little too quick to resort to personal insults.
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  65. @Wally
    'Analysis of Washington Post police-shootings data reveals surprising result – nearly 2x more whites than blacks shot by police'

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/07/18/analysis-of-washington-post-police-shootings-data-reveals-surprising-result/

    excerpts:
    - For every 10,000 white people arrested for a violent crime, 38 white people were killed by police.
    - For every 10,000 hispanic people arrested for a violent crime, 21 hispanic people were killed by police.
    - For every 10,000 black people arrested for a violent crime, 21 black people were killed by police

    What about trans people? Please provide data for ALL genders. Okay. Thank you.

    And also, who are you voting for? Choose now.

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  66. joef says:
    @Stan d Mute
    Who’s surprised that Africans are biting the hands that feed them? Their ancestors won the African lottery when they were (1) captured by another tribe and enslaved rather than immediately eaten, (2) shipped west instead of east, (3) shipped north rather than south. From the fortunate 400,000 who were shipped to America, by the end of importation in the early 1800’s due to England’s global embargo on slave trafficking, those 400,000 had multiplied to something like 4,000,000. Amazing how fast they multiply when fed and cared for eh? And in every generation since landing in America, Africans have been healthier and had a higher standard of living than in any other place they have been found. Yet no group, certainly no group lifted from Stone Age cannibal savagery into our glorious Western Civilization and granted equal legal status, has ever committed so much violence against us nor been so outspoken in their ultimate goal of killing us all including children and infants..

    It speaks volumes that the African slaves, when freed, were given the opportunity to go back to Africa and virtually none took that offer. Today, I can see only one peaceful solution to their ever-escalating rhetoric and violence (both rioting and individual), and that is repatriation of Africa’s children to their ancestral homelands in Africa. Pay them to go. Their lifetime societal costs are approaching $1,000,000ea. If it took $10,000,000ea to get them out it would be recovered in a generation.

    Thats the paradox… they hate us so much that they won’t leave us alone (because they know they have it too good, while libs actually believe in the professed nonsense of afro oppression, while the leftist coach them). I believe you are correct seeing repatriation as a possible solution to this chronic conflict that the afros have with the rest of America.

    Unfortunately the political will is in very short supply to address this problem, thus we are headed towards economic chaos and afro anarchy (at some point in the future: either years/decades/generation from now?). Afros and leftist continue to drive us toward the cliff (while the libs close their eyes), and eventually we will fall off with them. I see no reversal because the majority of people either have no real experience with it, or ignore it.

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  67. Rod1963 says:
    @Priss Factor
    Nation just getting dumber

    https://twitter.com/nontolerantman/status/913663148917493760

    She has all the earmarks of a Mecha or Atzlan member. Virulently anti-white and pro-race war. The good news is that most of them are so damn stupid that they drop out of college by the 2nd year with a ton of student debt. And even if this beast graduates it would be in some fake field like Chicano studies, that was created for stupid minorities who couldn’t major in English or Pol Sci.

    Still consider her the face of California’s future. A state full of stupid, violent people with no impulse control and on the dole for life.

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    "Still consider her the face of California’s future. A state full of stupid, violent people with no impulse control and on the dole for life."

    "dole for life", like the purveyors of the National Death-fense Industry. They get a pretty keen handout from tax payers. Probably all white owned, operated.

    As if this this " violent people" Mencha member or her people started World War I, or II (or III?). As if Aztlan killed over a million people in North Korea, or over 4 million in Viet Nam, or all those millions in the last 16 years.

    Just to name a few.
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  68. joef says:
    @Vinteuil
    "Over 1000 people are killed in the US by cops every year. This is about 50-70 times higher rate than in Europe."

    Well, is there any place in Europe that is even remotely comparable to the inner cities of Detroit, Chicago, Saint Louis, Kansas City, Baltimore, Memphis, &c &c &c?

    Suggested answer: NO.

    And is there any known policy that has been tried which reduces the number of people killed by US cops in such places without increasing the overall death-toll?

    Again, suggested answer: NO.

    Do not engage utu too much. Although intelligent, he lacks life experience, objectivity, and is obsessed with the idea that 400,000 police officers are all guilty of murder (where is all the bodies?), and everyone that they shot were not involved in any criminality whatsoever. He is a strong believer in collectivist guilt, where one police officer is guilty for every other officer’s actions (even when they work for different departments, and never met each other).

    He has some good ideas, but being book smart, without much empirical knowledge (he just regurgitates second hand info), he takes the ideas to the extreme. When you counter his arguments, he will never answer them directly, but just keep repeating his main premises, and then out of frustration will start to attack you personally (For as smart as he is, I guess he never realized that an ad hominem attack is not a valid argument).

    In the end, instead of constructive dialogue, you will be embedded with circular arguments, his implied clairvoyance, and personal attacks (and deep down he may just be a resentful hater, too emotionally invested in his angry positions to make any meaningful objective judgement). I pray that he will find some peace someday.

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  69. Wally says:
    @alexander
    Whorefinder,

    On the issue of Kaepernick's abilities as a quarterback, I cannot say he was not a very , very fine quarterback.

    Because he was.

    He played outstanding football in the 49ers 2013 season...about as good as it gets....He displayed a very powerful, accurate arm combined with an explosive ability to run..which was almost unprecedented at the time... He showed his ability, time and again, to read the field and make smart decisions which is the hallmark of all great quarterbacks.....

    I ,for one, was enormously impressed with Kaepernick in 2013.

    I was very surprised that the 49ers could not build on their 2013 season, and do the tweaking they needed to get to and win the Superbowl in 2014.

    But I never blamed Kaepernick for that.

    I do not subscribe to your racist perceptions about black vs. white quarterbacks, so I cannot comment on them.

    “I do not subscribe to your racist perceptions about black vs. white quarterbacks, so I cannot comment on them.”

    Yawn.

    As if such name calling bothers those at unz.com.

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  70. uslabor says:
    @Renoman
    I don't watch sports, if I did I'd stop.

    Hey, Good For You, now pat yourself on the back. As if we care.

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  71. KenH says:

    Like Kaepernick, current kneelers are not Copernicus.

    That’s putting things mildly. I’ve long suspected that third parties put political ideas into their empty black skulls. In Kapernick’s case his Muslim girlfriend was allegedly the person who encouraged him to resort to the cheap publicity stunt of taking a knee during the anthem to protest police shootings of black men and the “oppression” of people of color.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3792982/Iowa-congressman-says-Kaepernick-s-Islamic-girlfriend-changed-political-views-Black-Lives-Matter-protest-making-sympathetic-ISIS.html

    The NFL has a rule that states that every player must stand during the anthem holding his helmet under his left arm. The NFL refuses to enforce its own rules on black players. That blacks get to exempt themselves whenever they see fit and for any reason is evidence of black skin privilege and black supremacy.

    I don’t think the NFL would be so cavalier about rules enforcement or that the media would be such tireless champions of first amendment rights if a few white players started taking a knee over white demographic displacement, black on white violent crime or myriad other legitimate grievances whites have against their own government.

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  72. uslabor says:

    A white cop can kill a black man and get away with it – every time.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/09/22/any-white-cop-can-kill-a-black-man-at-any-time/

    This is a great website, I’m grateful to Ron Unz that he can assemble such writings. I’m just sorry there is so little diversity (the hated word, concept) when it comes to black and white issues. Especially when it comes to police killings of black men. The comments are usually very anti-Black, pro-White, almost racist or overtly racist. Cops are doing extra-judicial execution in our streets, and we allow it to happen. Especially if the victim is a person of color.

    This is a class issue, the elite .01% are still using race to divide us because it works. Washington post says “Blacks are shot and killed by police at 2.5 times the rate of whites”. If the rate of white folks killed by cops increases, crackers should look to Clay Mathews takes a knee.

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    Clay Matthews is a Californian. He's no cracker.
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  73. uslabor says:
    @Priss Factor
    Nation just getting dumber

    https://twitter.com/nontolerantman/status/913663148917493760

    This is lousy, a complete attempt to shut down freedom of speech. I hate it, she’s an extremist SJW.

    But the extremists on the other side aren’t any better.

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  74. uslabor says:
    @Rod1963
    She has all the earmarks of a Mecha or Atzlan member. Virulently anti-white and pro-race war. The good news is that most of them are so damn stupid that they drop out of college by the 2nd year with a ton of student debt. And even if this beast graduates it would be in some fake field like Chicano studies, that was created for stupid minorities who couldn't major in English or Pol Sci.

    Still consider her the face of California's future. A state full of stupid, violent people with no impulse control and on the dole for life.

    “Still consider her the face of California’s future. A state full of stupid, violent people with no impulse control and on the dole for life.”

    “dole for life”, like the purveyors of the National Death-fense Industry. They get a pretty keen handout from tax payers. Probably all white owned, operated.

    As if this this ” violent people” Mencha member or her people started World War I, or II (or III?). As if Aztlan killed over a million people in North Korea, or over 4 million in Viet Nam, or all those millions in the last 16 years.

    Just to name a few.

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    People like you are just mercenaries for the left wing of the Establishment.
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  75. If you want to make a whole column about a figure of speech, you may want to devote some time to learning what it means. This research could be accomplished by asking males above the age of 12 if they have ever played football and if so, if they have taken a knee and why.

    It is not about urea or pleading for mercy. It is a figure of speech for rest on one knee. I was “taking a knee” when told to do so in an undistinguished high school career ending in 1994. I am white and reading the Unz Review, so it is unlikely this is coming from my inner social justice warrior.

    You’re writing on something you are not qualified for. This would be similar to me starting an article on Japan and then uncovering incorrectly why they eat with chopsticks as a lens to analyze Fukushima.

    Frankly, I expect better.

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  76. PC back in the days.

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  77. Ranger says: • Website

    Ilana is perfectly on-target. The original take-a-knee was about killer-cops, but that message has been hijacked by the victimization industry and Trump-bashers. Disrespecting the flag and anthem is NOT the way to garner support for police reform or any other issue.

    My son was murdered by a scared, low-IQ cop, who couldn’t tell a Blackberry cell phone wasn’t a gun in broad daylight. But I stand for the anthem, face the flag and put a hand over my heart. So did Erik, my late son, a West Point grad and decorated Army officer.

    Frankly, I have no use for that percentage of rogue/outlaw cops who kill and get away with it. But I’ve also had it with elites on both sides of the political aisle–and their co-opted football players–telling us that my country sucks. It doesn’t. So I’ll stand….and will NOT watch another NFL game, until Sunday gladiators also stand and honor the nation that enriches them.

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  78. Truth says:
    @utu
    The Black White divide at work. It always works. They are playing you guys like a violin. This Zionista who wrote this article is one of those who keep playing you. Next you will celebrate the evils of empire and the police state just because, right? Slavery is the gift that keeps on giving. The slave masters always on the top. The effectiveness and the easiness of this trick made the lords of Europeans envious so they decided to emulate American masters by bringing Africans and Muslims to Europe. Mono-ethnic and mono-cultural societies had too much cohesion and solidarity to be played like you fools.

    …All until the last line though. Ever heard of serfs?

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  79. Truth says:
    @Intelligent Dasein
    Ilana here cements her reputation as a writer of incoherent dreck which she spices up just past the point of insipidity with hints of sexual innuendo. She needs a man badly. She needs to get licked up and tossed by an intellectual superior whom she can support rather than try try to be intellectual herself.

    Ilana, where should this gentleman send his resume?

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  80. Truth says:
    @RobinG
    So "Taking a Knee" started before the Fake Patriotism --

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_ilVrMaNvM&t=0s
    The REAL NFL/National Anthem Story that Should INFURIATE You!!

    Good video.

    Unfortunately, my friend, the coterie of alabaster knee-grows who make up the Unzista community are too stupid for it.

    I’ve tried.

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    "Good video"

    The central claim of the video is false. Even Snopes admits that.

    Gotta love the creepy background sort-of-music, though.
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  81. Vinteuil says:
    @utu
    Blaming it on Black is a favorite copout for police and prison industry apologist.

    Do your own calculation. Subtract from 1000 270 Blacks killed by police. Subtract from the total population of circa 320 million 12.5% of Blacks. And now calculate the rate of killings by police per capita and compare it to Europe. It still will be exceptionally high comparing to Europe. Actually it will 40-58 times higher in Europe. Are you happy with this numbers?

    Or take the incarceration rate in the US which is 720 per 100k which is 5 times higher than in UK (140 per 100k). Blacks constitute 40% of of prison+ jail inmates. If you remove Blacks form the equation you end up still with 3.4 higher rate in the US than in UK. Are you happy with this number?

    And is there any known policy that has been tried which reduces the number of people killed by US cops in such places without increasing the overall death-toll?

    Answer your own question. What is the conversion rate in your demented universe that convert number of people killed by police to people saved? I know part of the equation that if police killed everybody then nobody would be killed by civilians because there would be no civilians left, so certainly you are onto something, Einstein.

    thanks for the advice – yeah, utu comes across as a smart guy, but maybe a little too quick to resort to personal insults.

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  82. Vinteuil says:
    @Truth
    Good video.

    Unfortunately, my friend, the coterie of alabaster knee-grows who make up the Unzista community are too stupid for it.

    I've tried.

    “Good video”

    The central claim of the video is false. Even Snopes admits that.

    Gotta love the creepy background sort-of-music, though.

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    What is the central claim that is false?
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  83. Vinteuil says:
    @Intelligent Dasein
    Ilana here cements her reputation as a writer of incoherent dreck which she spices up just past the point of insipidity with hints of sexual innuendo. She needs a man badly. She needs to get licked up and tossed by an intellectual superior whom she can support rather than try try to be intellectual herself.

    Getting anywhere with your “long pondered” magnum opus, my friend?

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  84. Binyamin says:

    I had a couple of expatriate immigrant South African colleagues, a male and a female at work a few years ago. Very polite, quiet, and competent at what they did and never expressed any controversial opinions. I liked them even though I knew they had emigrated because they did not like the post apartheid settlement and as Afrikaners they had probably supported white minority rule. One day I invited them to my house and after a few drinks they lost their inhibitions. ‘Blecks’, they heckled, blecks this and blecks that, blecks, blecks, blecks and ranted with a lifetime of grievances for the rest of the night. It was then that I realised that’s the way some South Africans pronounce ‘blacks’. I found the whole thing objectionable but did not want a scene because, heck, the man was an ex rugby player and the woman was delectable and the only delectable woman I am rude to is my ex. Next day it was back to work as if nothing happened.
    This brings us to Mercer, the rather mad looking South African immigrant. Mercer has no such inhibitions in the manner of my ex colleagues. Ever since she landed on these shores, already on the verge of middle age, she has been incessantly ranting about ‘blecks’ in her sing song South African accent. She has nothing interesting to say except reveal her dislike of ‘blecks’ . She adds nothing to the existing racialist discourse in America. Its either ‘blecks’, Muslims or Mexican. I was in Capetown last year. A stunning place and no doubt the jewel of Africa even though crime is a serious problem. Mercer would be more authentic if writes about her homeland instead of trying to ‘outblack’ existing home grown racialists. Ilana Mercer is 71.

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  85. Vinteuil says:

    “One day I invited them to my house and after a few drinks they lost their inhibitions. ‘Blecks’, they heckled, blecks this and blecks that, blecks, blecks, blecks and ranted with a lifetime of grievances for the rest of the night. It was then that I realised that’s the way some South Africans pronounce ‘blacks’. I found the whole thing objectionable but did not want a scene because, heck, the man was an ex rugby player and the woman was delectable…”

    So it took you most of the night to figure out that “blecks” was the way some South Africans pronounce “blacks?”

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  86. Truth says:
    @Vinteuil
    "Good video"

    The central claim of the video is false. Even Snopes admits that.

    Gotta love the creepy background sort-of-music, though.

    What is the central claim that is false?

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    NFL Players standing for the National Anthem did not begin in 2009, and the Department of Defense never paid them for the practice.
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  87. Truth says:
    @Vinteuil
    "Over 1000 people are killed in the US by cops every year. This is about 50-70 times higher rate than in Europe."

    Well, is there any place in Europe that is even remotely comparable to the inner cities of Detroit, Chicago, Saint Louis, Kansas City, Baltimore, Memphis, &c &c &c?

    Suggested answer: NO.

    And is there any known policy that has been tried which reduces the number of people killed by US cops in such places without increasing the overall death-toll?

    Again, suggested answer: NO.

    He indicated that 2/3 of police killings are white, so how does this pertain? Are there a lot of white in these inner-cites of which you write?

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  88. Truth says:
    @Wally
    Guess what. You live in a hurricane region, you will get hurricanes.

    The low IQ PR should have been prepared ages ago.

    Now they use it as an excuse get even more free stuff.

    Now they use it as an excuse get even more free stuff.

    Yeah, like water and roofing supplies.

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  89. Hibernian says:
    @alexander
    Whorefinder,

    On the issue of Kaepernick's abilities as a quarterback, I cannot say he was not a very , very fine quarterback.

    Because he was.

    He played outstanding football in the 49ers 2013 season...about as good as it gets....He displayed a very powerful, accurate arm combined with an explosive ability to run..which was almost unprecedented at the time... He showed his ability, time and again, to read the field and make smart decisions which is the hallmark of all great quarterbacks.....

    I ,for one, was enormously impressed with Kaepernick in 2013.

    I was very surprised that the 49ers could not build on their 2013 season, and do the tweaking they needed to get to and win the Superbowl in 2014.

    But I never blamed Kaepernick for that.

    I do not subscribe to your racist perceptions about black vs. white quarterbacks, so I cannot comment on them.

    I’ll give you this, the Bears would have done better signing him rather than Mike Glennon.

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  90. Hibernian says:
    @uslabor
    A white cop can kill a black man and get away with it - every time.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/09/22/any-white-cop-can-kill-a-black-man-at-any-time/

    This is a great website, I'm grateful to Ron Unz that he can assemble such writings. I'm just sorry there is so little diversity (the hated word, concept) when it comes to black and white issues. Especially when it comes to police killings of black men. The comments are usually very anti-Black, pro-White, almost racist or overtly racist. Cops are doing extra-judicial execution in our streets, and we allow it to happen. Especially if the victim is a person of color.

    This is a class issue, the elite .01% are still using race to divide us because it works. Washington post says "Blacks are shot and killed by police at 2.5 times the rate of whites". If the rate of white folks killed by cops increases, crackers should look to Clay Mathews takes a knee.

    Clay Matthews is a Californian. He’s no cracker.

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  91. Hibernian says:
    @uslabor
    "Still consider her the face of California’s future. A state full of stupid, violent people with no impulse control and on the dole for life."

    "dole for life", like the purveyors of the National Death-fense Industry. They get a pretty keen handout from tax payers. Probably all white owned, operated.

    As if this this " violent people" Mencha member or her people started World War I, or II (or III?). As if Aztlan killed over a million people in North Korea, or over 4 million in Viet Nam, or all those millions in the last 16 years.

    Just to name a few.

    People like you are just mercenaries for the left wing of the Establishment.

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  92. Vinteuil says:
    @Truth
    What is the central claim that is false?

    NFL Players standing for the National Anthem did not begin in 2009, and the Department of Defense never paid them for the practice.

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    Mere semantics. The Army paid the NFL for pregame displays of patriotism, it was up to the teams before 2009 as to whether they wanted to remain the locker room before the game or not. The government cannot determine citizen conduct during the national anthem, this would be a First Ammendment violation, but a private corporation can.

    Fill in the blanks.

    According to numerous sources, and verified by IR.net, the US Government actually paid the NFL in order for them to bring players onto the field and stand for the national anthem during special ceremonies. Up until 2009, NFL players sometimes remained in their respective locker rooms, especially during prime time games, while the national anthem was played on the field. Then starting in 2010 this all changed, as players were required to come onto the field prior to the playing of the anthem, during every game, while the live television audience was able to see the players’ patriotism on display.

    Starting in 2011 and continuing until 2014 the Department of Defense spent an estimated $5.4 million in contracts with 14 NFL teams for patriotic ‘flag ceremonies’. Additionally, from 2013 to 2015 the US National Guard also payed the NFL a staggering $6.7 million for similar flag ceremonies, basically giving the NFL incentive to get players to participate in such patriotic displays.



    While, it is against the First Amendment for the government to force individuals to stand for the national anthem, it is not illegal for a company, like the NFL to require such participation.

    So, we now have this entire dialogue pertaining to players’ participation in the national anthem, all while just 8 years ago, players did not participate in the anthem at all during prime time games. Basically it wasn’t until the government began paying the NFL to have these ceremonies, as a recruitment tool for the military, that players stood in the national spotlight during the anthem for every game.
     
    http://ir.net/news/politics/127536/yes-government-paid-nfl-players-stand-national-anthem/
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  93. Truth says:
    @Vinteuil
    NFL Players standing for the National Anthem did not begin in 2009, and the Department of Defense never paid them for the practice.

    Mere semantics. The Army paid the NFL for pregame displays of patriotism, it was up to the teams before 2009 as to whether they wanted to remain the locker room before the game or not. The government cannot determine citizen conduct during the national anthem, this would be a First Ammendment violation, but a private corporation can.

    Fill in the blanks.

    According to numerous sources, and verified by IR.net, the US Government actually paid the NFL in order for them to bring players onto the field and stand for the national anthem during special ceremonies. Up until 2009, NFL players sometimes remained in their respective locker rooms, especially during prime time games, while the national anthem was played on the field. Then starting in 2010 this all changed, as players were required to come onto the field prior to the playing of the anthem, during every game, while the live television audience was able to see the players’ patriotism on display.

    Starting in 2011 and continuing until 2014 the Department of Defense spent an estimated $5.4 million in contracts with 14 NFL teams for patriotic ‘flag ceremonies’. Additionally, from 2013 to 2015 the US National Guard also payed the NFL a staggering $6.7 million for similar flag ceremonies, basically giving the NFL incentive to get players to participate in such patriotic displays.

    While, it is against the First Amendment for the government to force individuals to stand for the national anthem, it is not illegal for a company, like the NFL to require such participation.

    So, we now have this entire dialogue pertaining to players’ participation in the national anthem, all while just 8 years ago, players did not participate in the anthem at all during prime time games. Basically it wasn’t until the government began paying the NFL to have these ceremonies, as a recruitment tool for the military, that players stood in the national spotlight during the anthem for every game.

    http://ir.net/news/politics/127536/yes-government-paid-nfl-players-stand-national-anthem/

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    ir.net? Whatever.

    The DOD paid the NFL a few bucks to run some live action army recruitment ads which had no connection at all to the pre-game anthem.

    You've got nothing, here.
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  94. Vinteuil says:
    @Truth
    Mere semantics. The Army paid the NFL for pregame displays of patriotism, it was up to the teams before 2009 as to whether they wanted to remain the locker room before the game or not. The government cannot determine citizen conduct during the national anthem, this would be a First Ammendment violation, but a private corporation can.

    Fill in the blanks.

    According to numerous sources, and verified by IR.net, the US Government actually paid the NFL in order for them to bring players onto the field and stand for the national anthem during special ceremonies. Up until 2009, NFL players sometimes remained in their respective locker rooms, especially during prime time games, while the national anthem was played on the field. Then starting in 2010 this all changed, as players were required to come onto the field prior to the playing of the anthem, during every game, while the live television audience was able to see the players’ patriotism on display.

    Starting in 2011 and continuing until 2014 the Department of Defense spent an estimated $5.4 million in contracts with 14 NFL teams for patriotic ‘flag ceremonies’. Additionally, from 2013 to 2015 the US National Guard also payed the NFL a staggering $6.7 million for similar flag ceremonies, basically giving the NFL incentive to get players to participate in such patriotic displays.



    While, it is against the First Amendment for the government to force individuals to stand for the national anthem, it is not illegal for a company, like the NFL to require such participation.

    So, we now have this entire dialogue pertaining to players’ participation in the national anthem, all while just 8 years ago, players did not participate in the anthem at all during prime time games. Basically it wasn’t until the government began paying the NFL to have these ceremonies, as a recruitment tool for the military, that players stood in the national spotlight during the anthem for every game.
     
    http://ir.net/news/politics/127536/yes-government-paid-nfl-players-stand-national-anthem/

    ir.net? Whatever.

    The DOD paid the NFL a few bucks to run some live action army recruitment ads which had no connection at all to the pre-game anthem.

    You’ve got nothing, here.

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    ...Because we all know, Army recruitment has NOTHING to do with patriotism.
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  95. Truth says:
    @Vinteuil
    ir.net? Whatever.

    The DOD paid the NFL a few bucks to run some live action army recruitment ads which had no connection at all to the pre-game anthem.

    You've got nothing, here.

    …Because we all know, Army recruitment has NOTHING to do with patriotism.

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  96. I would prefer that people stand during the national anthem. However, this is a matter of conscience. If one thinks something is amiss nationally that warrants their objection — that is a matter of choice.

    I have been dragging this quotation around for two days and it’s appropriate here.

    “There I was, the black grandson of a slave, the son of a black sharecropper, part of a historic occasion, a symbolic hero to my people. The air was sparkling. The sunlight was warm. The band struck up the national anthem. The flag billowed in the wind. It should have been a glorious moment for me as the stirring words of the national anthem poured from the stands. Perhaps, it was, but then again, perhaps, the anthem could be called the theme song for a drama called The Noble Experiment. Today, as I look back on that opening game of my first world series, I must tell you that it was Mr. Rickey’s drama and that I was only a principal actor. As I write this twenty years later, I cannot stand and sing the anthem. I cannot salute the flag; I know that I am a black man in a white world. In 1972, in 1947, at my birth in 1919, I know that I never had it made.”

    ― Jackie Robinson, I Never Had It Made
    Lt US Army Veteran

    it is accurate that the police are not killing black men in droves, nothing compared to the past. But that has not been the complete picture. It’s the justice system’s particular treatment of black men. It’s the long history so modeled that a report written in 1860, 1900, 1950 and today could be read t
    and one wouldn’t know the difference. Sure all lives matter, but there’s ample evidence that black men’s lives matter less.

    As for any suggestion that a protest is akin to urinating. I guess it depends on whether injustice deserves praisem a shrug or a good dose of acid.

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  97. jlee0 says:

    overpaid adolescent nfl players grow up
    here are some real men taking the knee;

    http://thechive.com/2014/11/23/security-halt-go-ahead-and-take-a-knee-36-photos/

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