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Angela Merkel, elected for life, or for what seems like an eternity, squints at ordinary Germans from behind the parapets of her usurped authority. The German chancellor has signaled her express intention to foist a new identity on the German people, whether they like it or not, and without the broad consent of her citizens (or subjects). This Merkel has done by absorbing “an unprecedented influx of immigrants who will fundamentally change the country.”

The quest to engineer a single European identity is at the heart of the European refugee crisis. (That, and the foreign policy of George W Bush, Barack Hussein Obama and Hillary Clinton, who elected to pulverize Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan and thus destabilized the region.) “It remains unmistakably true,” wrote British patriot and classical liberal philosopher David Conway, that “from its postwar beginnings to the present, the principal advocates and architects of European union have been uniformly animated by collectivist objectives that are deeply anti-liberal in spirit and form.”

Indeed, her tyrannical power to overthrow the German people and import another in their place, Merkel derives from the EU Constitution. To wit, “The EU already has rights to legislate over external trade and customs policy, the internal market, the monetary policy of countries in the Eurozone, agriculture and fisheries, many areas of domestic law including the environment and health and safety at work,” as has the supra-state extended its rights into what it calls “justice policy,” especially “asylum and immigration.”

This illiberal impetus has allowed the like-minded Merkel, operating with legal imprimatur from Brussels, to assume the authority once reserved to the sovereign people of Germany. Were it not for the rigid controls the EU exerts over its satellite states—each European member country would be free to respond to the (mostly) Muslim influx in a manner consistent with the wishes of their citizens, and not those of the Bismarckian Bureaucracy, with which Merkel identifies, and its many crooked beneficiaries.

To quote the words of another patriot, American southerner Clyde Wilson, PhD., “True union is a process of consent, not of conquest.”

It’s a little late in the game, but the shell-shocked German giant is awakening from its oppressive conformity. German activists have pursued charges of treason against Chancellor Merkel. The “citizen’s initiative” entails writing letters with legal standing to the chancellor and her prosecutors, accusing this cabal of “using mass migration to change the German Republic.” The “petitioners claimed the right under Article 20 of the German Constitution ‘to resist any person seeking to abolish this constitutional order, if no other remedy is available’ in order to ‘safeguard our identity.’”

For their part, the patriots of the Freedom Party of Austria have been forced to resort to legal technicalities to try and halt their government’s resolve to swamp the people of Austria.

ORDER IT NOW

Ingeniously, as tracked by the Breitbart News Network, FPÖ leader Heinz Christian Strache has charged the Austrian state prosecutor for what amounts to human trafficking. Strache has put said prosecutor “on notice for ‘breaches of the law,’” specifically, for a “willful failure to enforce the Policing of Aliens act [2005],” by transporting “hundreds of thousands of people” across the border into Austria in “an uncontrolled manner,” “since early September,” in effect acting as people smuggler in chief.

The Merkel Media (Der Spiegel, in this case), in the mold of their American friends across the pond, has glibly asserted that the chancellor’s “historic decision” to throw open Germany’s borders to armies of predominantly Muslim refugees “was morally unassailable.”

If the chancellor were using her privately owned land on which to accommodate these refugees, and her own funds to transport and sustain them; and provided she prevented her charges from venturing onto public property or accessing taxpayer-funded resources—Merkel’s plot to swamp Germany with indigent illegal aliens would indeed be moral.

But this is not the case. Moreover, when a government orchestrates the unfettered movement of people into a state in which the native population’s rights to property, free association and self-defense are already heavily circumscribed by the same authority—that government is guilty of unadulterated social engineering, and worse.

Judging from her treacherous conduct, Merkel’s fellow-feelings reside exclusively with the refugees she intends to import by the millions. Her sympathies do not extend to the people at whose pleasure she serves and to whom she owes her flinty heart.

Angela Merkel is thus not unimpeachably moral, as Der Spiegel claimed; she is plain impeachable.

Germans must dethrone Angela Merkel before this dictator re-elects another people in their place and renders them aliens in their homelands.

 
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  1. As bad as the Immisvasion is (and believe me, I am aghast at it), so far the number of people even projected to arrive in Europe by the end of next year amounts to less than one half of one percent of the present European population–hardly an unstoppable onslaught. My point is not to downplay the threat; my point is to insist that this is all still quite reversible if the European citizens, especially the Germans, decide to act now. Unfortunately, history suggests that the German national character conduces to long periods of torpor punctuated by sudden, bold, brilliant–but somewhat uncoordinated–paroxysms of rage. However, even this would be better than doing nothing; so, if that is the best that can be achieved, by all means let’s go for it.

    Better, though, would be some decisive leadership and organisation. Somebody just needs to stand up and declare that they will fight the invasion by any means necessary. If enough people (and it need not be very many) gave such a man their unqualified support, I’m sure it could be done. This is the time for the alt-right to move beyond penning sternly worded blog posts of disapproval and to actually get political. If anyone is reading this in Germany, you know what to do. Good luck and God bless.

  2. Realist says:

    It is amazing (and stupid) how the Germans tolerate her.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Cameron
  3. TheBoom says:

    White people won’t get rid of Merkel. It will have to be far worse for them to take decisive action. Imbedded in modern White culture is the desire to be nice even if it means slitting their own throat. True, a few malcontents will question the insanity of what is going on but not the majority.

  4. Avery says:

    Having failed to conquer Christian Europe militarily, Ottoman Turks have now successfully planted their Islamist agent as Sultanette of Germany, and are taking over Europe from inside.

    If German people don’t come out of their hibernation in time, and start taking their country back, it will not end well for them.
    When the critical numerical threshold is reached, Turks will employ their usual SOP in dealing with indigenous Christians of the countries they invade and take over and who do not wish to be forcibly Turkified or Islamized: Genocide.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @dahoit
  5. This is a beautifully written article.

  6. JEC says:

    The German people – or at least the intelligentsia who control the public institutions – are consumed by liberal guilt. Inviting hordes of aliens into Germany who will eventually obliterate the indigenous culture, is a way of purging themselves of this inherited guilt – which of course is attributable to the Nazi era.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  7. jeppo says:

    This illiberal impetus has allowed the like-minded Merkel, operating with legal imprimatur from Brussels, to assume the authority once reserved to the sovereign people of Germany.

    There is no “legal imprimatur” from Brussels. On 24 August 2015, Germany decided to suspend the Dublin Regulation as regards Syrian refugees and to process their asylum applications directly itself. Under the Dublin Regulation, an asylum seeker has to apply for asylum in the first EU country they entered, and, if they cross borders to another country after being fingerprinted, they can be returned to the former.

    So Merkel broke EU law (the Dublin Regulation) in order to facilitate this invasion, and, in Merkel’s own words, “with no upper limit” to the number of asylum seekers Germany will be forced to accept. If the EU really was all-powerful, as Ilana Mercer asserts, then this would have never been allowed to happen.

    Since Aug. 24, Merkel’s CDU/CSU coalition has fallen from 42% to 34% in the polls, while the rightwing, populist AfD has risen from 3.5% to 10%. There is a peasant revolt slowly but surely brewing in the land, and it wouldn’t be surprising if Merkel is ousted by her own party in the next few months, and new elections are called.

    Here’s an opinion piece in the ultra-liberal Deutsche Welle that questions Merkel’s pig-headedness on the refugee question, while, of course, warning against those who would “trumpet anti-foreigner sentiments.”

    http://www.dw.com/en/opinion-refugee-policy-get-hold-of-your-heart-and-use-your-head/a-18846826

    There are more than one hundred comments on this thread, almost all of them scathing in their denunciation of Merkel and the “refugees.” Here is the top rated comment:

    Merkel is finished, done, kaputt. She has gone completely beyond the pale of acceptable, excusable, responsible, or rational conduct, and cannot be trusted in power ever again. Her coalition (CDU-CSU) should get rid of her immediately, replace her with Schäuble or whoever, let there be a vote of no confidence by the leftist vandals and then go to new elections. The CSU should run on its own platform Germany wide, and the CDU under its new leader should also have a platform of undoing the damage Merkel has done. Between them the CDU, CSU, FDP, and AfD should get an overall majority, with which they can restore German sovereignty and security before it is fatally undermined forever, and Europe implodes. There should be no cowardice or hypocrisy on the part of the traditional parties of the right as regards the AfD, which is a legitimate and increasingly mainstream party, comparable to others in Europe like the ruling Polish PiS, the longer it takes, the more their support will increase yet further, and the German right NEEDS to return to (moderate) conservative and nationalistic roots, having almost been sucked into the black hole of the far-left under Merkel. All mainstream parties of the right should act together to save Germany in this time of true peril, and that definitely includes the AfD. Anyone on the right who denies or opposes this is just a coward and a traitor to Germany, and is working for the destruction of Germany and Europe.

    Merkel out, new elections, Grand Coalition of the Right against this destructive treason and ruin!

  8. plantman says:

    Let’s see if I got this right: When white people invade countries occupied predominantly by brown people and proceed to cause all kinds of mischief by fueling sectarian violence, war, and regime change; then everything is hunky-dory. But as soon as those brown people flee the terror created by the mischievous white people than Mercer cries, “Treachery!”

    I like that. It shows a real sense of balance.

    • Agree: Bill Jones
    • Replies: @Wally
    , @random observer
  9. annamaria says:
    @Realist

    Look at twice-elected bush the lesser and cheney the dictator

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Quartermaster
  10. annamaria says:
    @Avery

    The “Sultanette of Germany” was left to solve the mother-of-all messes created by the sweet-tongue US neocons of the Kagans’ type and PNAC brand (both loved dearly by the war profiteers and oilmen). The wave of humanity rushing from the Middle East to Europe is just a reaction to the US/EU/Israel’ murderous actions against the previously functioning states. The economic migrants from sub-Saharan Africa have been happily joining the mess. Perhaps if your family knew genocide and your elders taught you about the unjust ravages of the wars for political power, you would be less inclined to accuse and smear Frau Kanzlerin for her attempts at solving the humanitarian disaster. And do not forget the “moderate” unicorns (useful jihadi) that the US/EU/Israel alliance has been nurturing and supporting; this unruly kind has been infesting the EU thanks to the alliance policies.

    • Replies: @Avery
  11. annamaria says:
    @JEC

    You also need to add the song of Glory to Bush-Cheney genius, as well as to the PNAC and Kaganat of the US State Department.

  12. Cameron says:
    @Realist

    I could say the same about us Americans and how we’ve tolerated every president since. . .

    You name him and you’d be correct.

    • Replies: @Realist
  13. @Intelligent Dasein

    You grossly underestimate the impact of the migrants on Europe – and, particularly, Germany’s – long-term demographics.

    I don’t have time to re-write what I wrote on Sailer’s comments but suffice it to say that due to the vast majority of migrants being young males who very likely will bring their wives to Europe and have children, you can reasonably estimate that each percentage point increase in the Muslim/non-European population caused by the migrants can be multiplied by at least five, likely six or seven.

    Therefore, Germany bring in 1% of its population in refugees means a permanent increase of at least ~5 percentage points over time. With Muslims/non-Europeans already making up at least 10% of Germany’s births (probably higher but let’s go with the low number) before this year, Germany just went from 10% Muslim/non-European to 15% in one year. Another couple of years of heavy migration and a slightly higher birthrate would lead to Germany’s under-40 population being 25% to 35% Muslim/non-European in a few decades – one generation or so. And that’s assuming Germany cut off heavy immigration after a couple of years.

    I agree that European whites still have the upper hand demographically, but that advantage is fading much more quickly than people understand.

    A Europe where ~1/3 of the youths are Muslim in Germany, France and England will be a very, very different place with much potential for violence and political upheaval. Another two or three years of heavy migration, and that situation will be guaranteed due to demographics.

    Whites would still have the advantage, but they haven’t shown themselves to be much of a force so far. What happens when instead of outnumbering Muslims/non-Europeans seven or eight to one, it’s two to one. What happens when Muslims – due to their large numbers – feel safe to dominate on the streets? What happens when Muslims vote as a block, guaranteeing a third of the vote to Muslim candidates?

    That situation could be arriving in 20 to 30 years. Of course, the Muslims/non-Europeans could simply turn into Europeans in “dark-face” but there’s no sign that that’s happening at the moment.

    • Agree: Jeff77450
    • Replies: @scoops
  14. Oswald Spengler’s little book, The Hour of Decision, is not quite as well known as his magisterial The Decline of the West, but it is a quick read and highly pertinent to the current circumstances. The nationalist parties of Germany could certainly draw from it some needed perspective and inspiration.

    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
  15. Realist says:
    @Cameron

    Yes and I agree but the article was about Germany.

  16. Realist says:
    @annamaria

    I agree and have said so many times. But the article was about Germany.

  17. @Intelligent Dasein

    Care to give a synopsis? Why should we read it? Always looking for more good input.

  18. Romanian says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    the number of people even projected to arrive in Europe by the end of next year amounts to less than one half of one percent of the present European population–hardly an unstoppable onslaught

    That’s not true, because they’re not going to every and any European nation. They are targeting Germany and Sweden, specifically. Again, you can say that the population increase is not that much, but you would be neglecting to take into consideration the age pyramid. As a mental exercise, 800,000 young men, between 20 and 30, are not just 1% of German population, but 10% of the entire 20 to 30 cohort which is next up to birth the next generation of Germans. All added in one year. This is a substantial transformation, given how many non-German are already counted in those figures. If they bring wives from back home, like the Turkish gastarbeiter, that’s a doubling right off the bat, to 20% of 20 to 30 year old added in one year.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    , @scoops
  19. The article almost makes it sound as if Merkel is a lonely villain from a James Bond movie, backed up by nothing but a gang of goons.
    That’s not the case. Many millions of Germans, and the bulk of the EUcracy, agree with her actions.

    • Replies: @dahoit
  20. Wally [AKA "BobbyBeGood"] says: • Website
    @plantman

    Wrong.
    What happened to the will of the people?
    German citizens had nothing to do with invading Middle Eastern countries. The Jewish supremacist dominated US government did.

    Why isn’t ‘Israel’ taking some of these people? Why aren’t you advocating for that?

    And, why aren’t Muslim countries taking them? Why aren’t you advocating for that too?

    Only the neo-Marxists in charge of the EU & Germany want these low IQ people.

    Who is that demands massive immigration into the US & Europe, but strictly forbids non-Jew immigration into what’s properly called “that shitty little country”?

    Merkel was the voluntary propaganda secretary for the communist youth movement, the FDJ in East Germany.

    • Replies: @Andrew E. Mathis
  21. Realist says:

    Ilana, excellent article.

  22. German activists have pursued charges of treason against Chancellor Merkel. The “citizen’s initiative” entails writing letters with legal standing to the chancellor and her prosecutors, accusing this cabal of “using mass migration to change the German Republic.” The “petitioners claimed the right under Article 20 of the German Constitution ‘to resist any person seeking to abolish this constitutional order, if no other remedy is available’ in order to ‘safeguard our identity.’”

    Is there a similar mechanism in US law whereby citizens can “write letters with legal standing” to their president and Congress and demand their impeachment for selling out to Israeli interests?
    And waging unjust wars?
    And killing innocent people with impunity?

  23. @TomSchmidt

    Care to give a synopsis? Why should we read it? Always looking for more good input.

    Sure. The basic problem that Spengler addresses in the tract is the tragic nature of the interaction between the European and non-European peoples. In the first place, he considers the vastly superior technics of Western man to be a development of the tendencies inherent in the Faustian Civilization (his appellation for the Western culture-peoples was Faustian Man). That civilization is characterized by a yearning for distance and a projection into the third dimension, which is basically the act of an indomitable will. It was traceable in the beginnings as the Nordic sea voyages of exploration and conquest. Later on we can see the development of the same theme in such techniques as perspective and chiaroscuro in oil painting, contrapuntal fugues in musical composition, the soaring architecture of the cathedral, infinitesimal analysis in mathematics, and double-entry bookkeeping in accounting. Only Western analytical techniques in applied mathematics, combined with the Western will to power, could have produced anything like the industrial revolution, not to mention the highly advanced machine technics (such as personal computers) which we take for granted today.

    Spengler considered it “race treason” that these immensely powerful crafts, the fruit of a unique Western culture, were ever shared with non-Western peoples. He prophetically predicted that one day the non-Westerners would turn these weapons against their masters, and would then thoughtlessly cast them aside the same way that a besieger throws away his battering ram after the castle doors are broken. This turned out to be exactly the case.

    While Spengler is often considered a race-realist, he was not a crude biological determinist. Race was very real and important to him (his whole historiography relies very heavily upon it), but he also considered it to be fluid and transformable. “Race” was more of a metaphysical construct for him; it was the counterpart in the physical world of the structure of a soul and its life-feeling, of the way it oriented itself in physical and social spaces. Spengler would have shaken his head at the intellectually poverty-stricken HBDism that one finds at Sailer’s blog, for instance, just as he often risked himself by ridiculing the race theories of the National Socialists.

    The upshot is this: Spengler foresaw that the Western world was in danger of dissolving away into the undifferentiated morass of directionless energy that characterizes the non-Western world. He knew that we would be betrayed into this fate by our own elites (who are only interested in money) and by the growing ranks of misfits and malcontents within our own people. He considered that Germany was a good candidate to act as the champion and savior of the West, since it was the only one of the European “races” that hadn’t already spent its energy and lived out its history. Finally, the means for achieving this would be the development of what he called “Prussian Socialism,” i.e. a political-economic system managed by Western “Caesars” (of whom he considered Cecil Rhodes to be a forebear), which appraises facts realistically, wrests economic power from the oligarchs, and thereafter runs the economy in the national interest. As an addendum, I would consider both Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump to be two fine contemporary examples of “Prussian Socialism.”

    Reading Spengler can be one of those life-transforming experiences which expands your perspective on everything. I was fortunate enough to have discovered him in my early twenties, and I highly recommend him to anyone interested in alt-right subjects and who cares about the future of this world.

  24. Tom_R says:

    THE ARMY CAN LEGALLY OVERTHROW MERKEL?

    When the govt. becomes totally lawless and usurps power, as Angela Merkel has done, the people and the armed forces have a LEGAL AND MORAL RIGHT and DUTY to rise up and overthrow her, by force if necessary.

    The US founding fathers, for instance, understood this basic principle of Democracy and therefore enacted the first and second amendments–for that very purpose.

    It has been shown earlier that Merke is operating under a pseudo-authority of a sham document called the “Basic Law” which is null and void because it was never approved by the People and is not the constitution.

    This Basic law and this “Federal Constitutional Court” are therefore unconstitutional and therefore illegal and null and void:

    http://www.rense.com/general69/germany.htm

    She therefore has no legal authority and is merely a trespasser.

    And the laws against mutiny or inciting rebellion enacted by a lawless govt. like Merkel’s are equally illegal and therefore null and void.

    When the army and the people understand this simple legal doctrine, and act upon it, they can save themselves and their own country.

  25. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    the late Fr. Paul Marx, said by some to be the father of the Catholic pro-life movement, got his start out of a garage space in the DC suburbs in the late 1970s after he traveled in Europe/Germany. He wrote in the first newsletters his organization produced, Human Life International (iirc), his observation that “Muslims are reproducing at a much greater rate than Christians in Europe. Their’s is the future.

    For some reason I think Paul Weyrich was part of Marx’s organization; the materials HLI produced certainly did follow the model that marketer Weyrich employed.

  26. Randal says:

    The quest to engineer a single European identity is at the heart of the European refugee crisis.

    They aren’t even decently ashamed of it, either:

    EU should ‘undermine national homogeneity’ says UN migration chief

  27. The German people should rise up and arrest Merkel for treason. She should be made an example of and go to prison for unleashing this madness.

    • Replies: @just sayin
  28. @Epaminondas

    what–public hanging too barbarous for you?

  29. @plantman

    It would be useful to use terminology more cleanly.

    If white people mess up the Middle East and the locals decide to take revenge by fleeing into Europe, the proper nationalistic response would be to drive them back. From the point of view of a German national, the messing up of the middle east would be a blunder, even an immoral act, but it isn’t treachery insofar as the German state does not belong to the Middle Easterners nor is its government obligated to them. Only to Germans. Therefore it IS treachery when that state sells out the interests of the German people.

    All of which would be true even if Germany was at fault in the middle east, which it is not.

    And there is a broader issue. Let’s grant Arabs some agency. If some foreigner comes in and gives me a gun and tells me to shoot my neighbour, I don’t have to do it. If I do it anyway, I must have wanted to do it for my own reasons. If the motivations and the manpower for civil war had not existed in Syria, there would not be a civil war.

    Every people has the right to settle their quarrels by violence. Others will intervene to pursue their own interests. That’s legit. The only thing not legit is intervening when one has no interest of one’s own. That’s just meddling in other peoples’ business.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  30. @Wally

    Merkel was the voluntary propaganda secretary for the communist youth movement, the FDJ in East Germany.

    And Pope Benedict was in the Hitler Youth. What’s your point?

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Hibernian
  31. We’re gonna need more lampposts.

  32. @random observer

    “All of which would be true even if Germany was at fault in the middle east, which it is not.”

    And here are the good Liberals at HuffPo decrying the German reluctance to murder Libyans

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-kettmann/germany-libya_b_837976.html

  33. Will Merkel have a change of heart after the latest Islamic assault on civilization ; don’t think so. She cares more about pleasing the Islamic countries and globalists than Germans.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Olorin
  34. annamaria says:

    There has been a long jolly season of sowing the teeth of dragon… See the green shoots in Paris. The harvest should be named after the US neocons; they absolutely deserve that kind of fame. Was not it fun to use the new shiny weaponry, while destroying the pretty-well functioning states of Iraq, Libya, and Syria? How many refugees were produced by the Iraq War alone? – some two million (2.ooo.000)? What about hundreds of thousands of Libyans and Syrians? What about children reduced to the bags of shredded meat by the US-made precision bombs and about such places as Fallujah poisoned by depleted uranium?
    What were the words of the WH imbecile? – “We will fight them there so we don’t have to fight them here…”
    My heart is with the victims of the Paris massacres.

    • Replies: @scoops
  35. Seraphim says:

    @The quest to engineer a single European identity is at the heart of the European refugee crisis.

    This quest is not recent at all. It lays at the very foundation of the European Union or Pan-Europa. It was announced in no uncertain terms by its Godfather, the famous Count Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi in his book Pan-Europa (1923):

    “Every great political happening began as a Utopia and ended as a Reality.”–

    In his book Praktischer Idealismus (Practical Idealism), he developed in more detail the plan:

    “The man of the future will be of mixed race. Today’s races and classes will gradually disappear owing to the vanishing of space, time, and prejudice. The Eurasian-Negroid race of the future, similar in its appearance to the Ancient Egyptians, will replace the diversity of peoples with a diversity of individuals”.

    People talk much today about this plan (which becomes a Reality by the hour) but are rather shy in revealing the final goal:

    “Instead of destroying European Jewry, Europe, against its own will, refined and educated this people into a future leader-nation through this artificial selection process. No wonder that this people, that escaped Ghetto-Prison, developed into a spiritual nobility of Europe. Therefore a gracious Providence provided Europe with a new race of nobility by the Grace of Spirit. This happened at the moment when Europe’s feudal aristocracy became dilapidated, and thanks to Jewish emancipation”.

    There is no “conspiracy theory”. It is plainly clamored from the roofs.

  36. scoops says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    these folks are robots since ww2! my grandfather came here from Germany in 1899 and told me germans are nuts! he also said there hasn’t been a german born since 1946!

  37. scoops says:
    @annamaria

    lets bring 43 out for public hanging! wont that make us all happy!

  38. scoops says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    [it is much better not to clutter up a discussion thread by publishing numerous short comments, but instead combine them together into a longer, more substantial one.]

    do we have to germans how to screw again! or are they that greedy,if they are !let them perish!

  39. Wally says: • Website

    This might assist the rejection of Muslim invaders.

    ‘Paris Shootings, Blasts Kill at Least 60’
    http://fox13now.com/2015/11/13/several-killed-in-shooting-outside-paris-restaurant/

    Now let’s see them ‘Charlie Hebdo’ this one.

  40. Olorin says:
    @greysquirrell

    How dare you blame Muslims for that!?

    Germany’s flood o’ muzzies are all downtrodden little dead children lying on their faces on the beach.

    Not mass murdering psychopaths with rotten musical taste whose goal is to kill off kind and good peoples’ ability to attend rock concerts.

  41. Wally [AKA "BobbyBeGood"] says: • Website
    @Andrew E. Mathis

    The point is that Merkel is neo-Marxist, tough to understand?

    She voluntarily became the propaganda secretary for the communist youth movement, the FDJ in East Germany.

    Pope Benedict (J. Ratzinger) was legally required to join the HY.

    Of course there are the Nazis with the ‘6M Jews, 5M others, and gas chambers’ and there are the Nazis without the ‘6M Jews, 5M others, and gas chambers’.

    Andrew Mathis, who also posts as ‘Thames Darwin’ demolished at the CODOH Forum:

    [MORE]

    ‘Himmler’s note infers Hitler knew of liquidation?’
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2143

    ‘Alleged “mass graves” according to T. Darwin / Andrew Mathis’
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9414

    ‘Andrew Mathis on Dachau, Majdanek, Auschwitz, Treblinka’
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9228

    AndrewnMathis, who also posts as ‘Thames Darwin’, gets shot down again:
    Anecdotal evidence & “holocaust survivors”
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9238

    holocaust’ denial article by Andrew Mathis debunked here’
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2816

    ‘Prof. Mc Nally dissects HHP’s Andrew Mathis’ bogus article’
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2841

    ‘Holo. Hist. Proj.’s Andrew Mathis on Zyklon scent removal’
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2499

    ‘Green, Mathis refuted / cyanide: lice, humans, & more’
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=267

    ‘Believer org. spokesman, Andrew Mathis, demolished in debate’
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=254

    ‘Holo. Hist. Proj.’s Andrew Mathis attempts damage control’
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2498

    ‘Email from Andrew Mathis (The Holocaust History Project)’
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1526

    ‘holocaust’ History Project to unveil section on Treblinka’
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=280

    • Replies: @Andrew E. Mathis
  42. Avery says:
    @annamaria

    {Perhaps if your family knew genocide and your elders taught you about the unjust ravages of the wars for political power, you would be less inclined to accuse and smear Frau Kanzlerin for her attempts at solving the humanitarian disaster.}

    In another thread I asked you a fair question, which you avoided answering.
    I’ll ask it again: if you answer, then I’ll tell what I know about Genocide and what my elders taught me.
    Deal?

    Here is the question:

    If you had a choice, where would you rather live: In (Christian) Europe or (Muslim) Saudi Arabia ?
    In either case, please tell us why.
    Thank you.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  43. Frankie P says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I’ve heard that Vlad Tepes (Dracula) is still around. He waged an unending war on the Ottoman invasion. They don’t make Europeans like they used to!

  44. Hibernian says:
    @Andrew E. Mathis

    Did Benedict have a leadership position in the H.Y.?

  45. I wonder if Frau Merkel the cabbage-farting Cuck Queen feels any trace of remorse over the hundreds of broken bodies blasted into the streets of Paris tonight, courtesy of the Religion of Peace. I wonder if she suddenly grew a bit panicky about the thousands of “missing refugees” wandering about her own country, the whereabouts of whom are not currently known. I wonder how the teeming train stations and refugee housing centers will be looked at now by the hapless citizens of Germany, betrayed to their doom by a tyrannical Brunhilde wielding an insidious strain of Eurocrat globe-improving insanity. And I wonder how much longer the European Union will remain viable while its ideological operating system continues to crash by the day.

    One thing I do not wonder about, though: France will be very, very pissed off. I know it’s become fashionable in recent years to bash the French as “cheese-eating surrender monkeys,” but in reality Frenchmen can become quite effective and brutal soldiers when the occasion calls for it, and this occasion certainly calls for it. The election of Marine Le Pen is all but assured now, and it won’t be very much longer before nationalism is openly acknowledged as Europe’s only hope.

    Europe must now face the difficult task of containing and deporting hundreds of thousands of potential enemies whom it foolishly welcomed into its own midst. I read with thankfulness that President Holland, in an uncharacteristic display of common sense, has ordered the French border closed; but I cannot help but think of how this catastrophe could have been averted had that entirely sensible measure been taken years ago.

    A final word to the immivasion-promoting creatures from Brussels: You don’t stand a chance now. Your European dream will never be realized; it was just blown out of the water by the maniacs you tried to replace us with. This isn’t going to just blow over. Everybody saw what happened in Paris tonight. Everybody knows exactly what happened and why it happened, and what to do about it. Your high-water mark has been reached and is now passed. The revolt against the Left has begun.

    • Replies: @Dumbo
  46. @Wally

    The point is that Merkel is neo-Marxist, tough to understand?

    No, just false.

    She voluntarily became the propaganda secretary for the communist youth movement, the FDJ in East Germany.

    Not proved.

    Pope Benedict (J. Ratzinger) was legally required to join the HY.

    While it was not legally required to join the FDJ, the Stasi made it difficult for those who didn’t, among other things denying them college entrance.

    Of course there are the Nazis with the ‘6M Jews, 5M others, and gas chambers’ and there are the Nazis without the ‘6M Jews, 5M others, and gas chambers’.

    Face facts, “Bobby,” the Holocaust is the thing you admire about the Nazis the most and you know it.

    Andrew Mathis, who also posts as ‘Thames Darwin’ demolished at the CODOH Forum:

    Jonnie A. Hargis, who posts here as BobbyBeGood and as Hannover and Moderator at CODOH:

    http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2015/07/playing-whack-mole-with-jonnie-hargis.html
    http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2015/04/atrocity-by-soviet-partisans-in-finnish.html
    https://rodoh.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=101
    https://rodoh.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1979&hilit=berg+hargis
    http://littlegreenfootballs.com/page/251521_Largest_Holocaust_denial_forum

    Two can play this game, Jonnie.

    • Replies: @Wally
  47. Corvinus says:

    The Coalition of the Fringes is at full throat.

    “Indeed, her tyrannical power to overthrow the German people and import another in their place, Merkel derives from the EU Constitution”

    Had she not been elected and support from German citizens, then she could be accurately labeled a tyrant. Her policies are derived from those constituents.

    Intelligent Dasein–“As bad as the Immisvasion is (and believe me, I am aghast at it)…”

    There is no invasion taking place.

    boomerexpat–“White people won’t get rid of Merkel.”

    [Sigh] please define “white”.

    Avery–”Ottoman Turks have now successfully planted their Islamist agent as Sultanette of Germany, and are taking over Europe from inside.”

    Please offer specific evidence that the Turks have actually engaged in such action.

    JEC–”Inviting hordes of aliens into Germany who will eventually obliterate the indigenous culture…”

    Interesting how things come full circle, considering past European machinations.

    plantman–”Let’s see if I got this right: When white people invade countries occupied predominantly by brown people and proceed to cause all kinds of mischief by fueling sectarian violence, war, and regime change; then everything is hunky-dory. But as soon as those brown people flee the terror created by the mischievous white people than Mercer cries, “Treachery!”

    Wow, someone who actually makes sense.

    CitizenofaSillyCountry–“What happens when Muslims vote as a block, guaranteeing a third of the vote to Muslim candidates?”

    You assume that these Muslims will disdain anything European.

    BobbyBe Good–”German citizens had nothing to do with invading Middle Eastern countries. The Jewish supremacist dominated US government did.”

    [Laughs] No, but Great Britain and France did. And as I recall those governments were NOT controlled by da Joos.

    random observer–”From the point of view of a German national, the messing up of the middle east would be a blunder, even an immoral act, but it isn’t treachery insofar as the German state does not belong to the Middle Easterners nor is its government obligated to them.”

    No, this “messing up”, using your own metrics, is indeed treachery.

    Olorin–”Not mass murdering psychopaths with rotten musical taste whose goal is to kill off kind and good peoples’ ability to attend rock concerts.”

    The Muslims involved in the French attack are NOT Muslims, but radical extremists who pervert Islam.

    • Replies: @Avery
    , @Avery
    , @greysquirrell
  48. Avery says:

    {The Muslims involved in the French attack are NOT Muslims, but radical extremists who pervert Islam.}

    Yep: that’s a very good excuse.
    Anything horrific done by Muslims is NOT done Muslims, but non-Muslim extremists who pervert Islam.
    Not a bad trick.

    I’ll ask you the same question that you asked me: “Please offer specific evidence that the Muslims who engage in terrorism are NOT Muslims”.

    And who decides who is a (real) Muslim and NOT a (real) Muslim ?
    If Muslims do something good, then they are Muslims.
    If Muslims do something bad, then they are NOT Muslims.
    Is that how it works ?

    OK then: the illegal invasion of Iraq was not done by Americans: those who did are NOT Americans. Those who did are non-American extremists who pervert the founding principles of America.
    Therefore, Americans at large are in the clear: we didn’t do it.
    Wasn’t Americans: was some perverts.

  49. Avery says:
    @Corvinus

    {The Muslims involved in the French attack are NOT Muslims, but radical extremists who pervert Islam.}

    Yep: that’s a very good excuse.
    Anything horrific done by Muslims is NOT done Muslims, but non-Muslim extremists who pervert Islam.
    Not a bad idea: should use it sometimes; solves lots of problems.

    I’ll ask you the same question that you asked me: “Please offer specific evidence that the Muslims who engage in terrorism are NOT Muslims”.

    And who decides who is a (real) Muslim and NOT a (real) Muslim ?
    If Muslims do something good, then they are Muslims.
    If Muslims do something bad, then they are NOT Muslims.
    Is that how it works ?

    OK then: the illegal invasion of Iraq was not done by Americans: those who did are NOT Americans. Those who did are non-American extremists who pervert the founding principles of America.
    Therefore, Americans at large are in the clear: we didn’t do it.
    Wasn’t Americans: was some perverts.

    • Agree: Ace
  50. Avery says:
    @Corvinus

    Let me ask you another question:

    Around 1915, Ottoman Turkey was about 25% Christian (Armenians, Assyrians, Pontic Greeks) and 75% Muslim (Turks and Kurds).
    After about 1923, there were no more Christians left in Muslim Turkey: only Muslim Turks and Muslim Kurds.

    So: were the Muslim Turks who organized and carried out the Genocide of Christians real Muslims or NOT-Muslims? I mean how is it possible for pretty much the entire Muslim population of Turkey, with few exceptions, who either participated in the Genocide, or participated in the abduction of Christian children, or participated in the looting of Christians’ properties,…and on and on…… NOT be Muslims ?

    • Replies: @The Albino Sasquatch
  51. pyrrhus says:

    Germans have gone down the path to destruction three times in the last century by blindly obeying criminal governments. This appears to be #4, and no signs yet that the dupes have had enough of Merkel, a former communist youth leader, and saboteur, who intends a final solution to European Germany.

  52. @Corvinus

    ” The Muslims involved in the French attack are NOT Muslims, but radical extremists who pervert Islam. ”

    Oh how convenient an excuse ; so Islam and the Muslim Ummah can always escape criticism by just saying that so and so militant was not a Muslim.

    The problem for apologists like you is that what the Paris attackers did is perfectly in keeping with Muhammed’s examples and demands in the Quran. Islamic armies have been conquering and butchering non Muslims ever since Islam came about. All the justification they and present day Islamists need is layed out in the Quran.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  53. Dumbo says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Yes. Let’s hope so, at least. Merkel has blood on her hands and should resign. Hollande too.

  54. Wally [AKA "BobbyBeGood"] says: • Website
    @Andrew E. Mathis

    I never heard of this Jonnie Hargis.

    More mind boggling delusions from hasbara apartheid Zionist, Andrew Mathis. A demented & lost soul.

    He’s lost every debate he’s ever engaged in, they all have.

    The ‘holocaust’ storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship.

    • Replies: @Andrew E. Mathis
  55. annamaria says:
    @Avery

    I live within the culture that has been “mine” for generations. And it is not my business to judge other cultures by comparing “their baddest” with our “baddest.” A mass murdered could be dressed in an expensive elegant suite and show nice manners, but this is no excuse for his/her bloody deeds.

    • Replies: @Avery
  56. annamaria says:
    @greysquirrell

    The same, word by word, could be read in Tora. By the way, here is your people talk on killing non-Jews: http://coteret.com/2009/11/09/settler-rabbi-publishes-the-complete-guide-to-killing-non-jews/
    Today, the jihadis have open door to Europe precisely because the Yinon plan has worked so good, namely, “the balkanization of the surrounding Arab states into smaller and weaker states.” Iraq, Libya, and Syria used to control both religious fanatics and economic migrants (thus protecting Europe), but these intentionally-destroyed states are not able to continue this task anymore and there’re no other mechanisms in place to stop the waves of Africans and refugees of the Middle Eastern wars from flooding Europe. http://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/5324815
    Your “Shumers” in the US Congress, and their Zionist sponsors with big pockets, have been using the US for making a bloodbath in the Middle East in order to strengthen Israel. And now there is a new generation of youngsters in the Middle East, which grew up in the context of the US/UK/Israel war. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/10/22/israel-the-u-s-congress-and-treason/

  57. […] Source: Angela Merkel Plots To Overthrow Her People – The Unz Review […]

  58. @Avery

    No point in asking that broken human questions Avery, he never answers. All he can do is grab blocks of other peoples posts and responds with juvenile one-liners and pseudo-intellectual posturing. When the next terrorist atrocity breaks, let’s hope they start with him.

  59. Avery says:
    @annamaria

    {I live within the culture that has been “mine” for generations.}

    You avoiding answering a simple, direct question is quite telling.
    I was not asking about mass murderers: I am well aware mass murders come in all shapes, colors, religions, social standing, ethnicity, nationality, etc.

    I was asking you if you had the choice to live in Christian Europe or Muslim Saudi Arabia – the cradle of Islam – which would you choose.
    By not answering the question and going on a tangent you in fact answered: you live in a non-Muslim country, most likely Christian country, and are singing the praises of Islam.

  60. annamaria says:

    “…and are singing the praises of Islam…”
    An objective look at the world does, indeed, avoid “you are with us or against us.”

    • Replies: @Avery
  61. Corvinus says:

    “Yep: that’s a very good excuse. Anything horrific done by Muslims is NOT done Muslims, but non-Muslim extremists who pervert Islam.
Not a bad trick.”

    It’s no trick at all.

    “I’ll ask you the same question that you asked me: “Please offer specific evidence that the Muslims who engage in terrorism are NOT Muslims”.

    http://qz.com/550104/muslims-around-the-world-condemn-terrorism-after-the-paris-attacks/

    So, you made a previous statement without the requisite evidence. I am asking you to submit proof or retract.

    “And who decides who is a (real) Muslim and NOT a (real) Muslim?”

    Obviously, YOU.

    
“If Muslims do something good, then they are Muslims. If Muslims do something bad, then they are NOT Muslims. Is that how it works?”

    Ask that same question to those people who decides who is and who is not a “good Christian”. Ask that same question to those people who decides who is and is not a “good white”.

    “OK then: the illegal invasion of Iraq was not done by Americans: those who did are NOT Americans. Those who did are non-American extremists who pervert the founding principles of America.
Therefore, Americans at large are in the clear: we didn’t do it.
Wasn’t Americans: was some perverts.”

    That’s the spirit. Exactly how some Americans would characterize the situation. Neo-Cons, according to some of the fine contributors on this site, “pervert” the Constitution and American values.

    “Around 1915, Ottoman Turkey was about 25% Christian (Armenians, Assyrians, Pontic Greeks) and 75% Muslim (Turks and Kurds).
After about 1923, there were no more Christians left in Muslim Turkey: only Muslim Turks and Muslim Kurds.”

    Prior to Columbus’ arrival, in 1492 there were tens of millions of Native Americans. Within two hundred years, several tribal groups were decimated to near extinction.

    “So: were the Muslim Turks who organized and carried out the Genocide of Christians real Muslims or NOT-Muslims? I mean how is it possible for pretty much the entire Muslim population of Turkey, with few exceptions, who either participated in the Genocide, or participated in the abduction of Christian children, or participated in the looting of Christians’ properties,…and on and on…… NOT be Muslims ?”

    So, were the Christians who organized and carried out the genocide of Native Americans real Christians or NOT-Christians? I mean, how is possible for pretty much the entire Christian population of Europe, with few exceptions, who either participated in the genocide, or participated in the jackbooting of tribal children, or participated in the looting of Native American lands…and on and on…NOT be Christians?

    See, it was Europeans who happened to be Christians, and Turks who happened to be Muslims, that carried out those atrocities. Two separate things–one ethnicity, one religious. Europeans and Turks would argue that genocide was committed by those who “perverted the faith”. In fact, Bartolomé de las Casas, a 16th-century Spanish Dominican friar, in his extensive writings focused particularly on the atrocities committed by Christian colonizers against indigenous peoples.

    “Oh how convenient an excuse ; so Islam and the Muslim Ummah can always escape criticism by just saying that so and so militant was not a Muslim.”

    There’s no escaping anything. Some Muslims are militants, just like some Christians and some Jews are militants. As soon as a person says “all” or “most”, or generalizes one religious group as “better” or “worse”, he or she is an extremist.

    “The problem for apologists like you is that what the Paris attackers did is perfectly in keeping with Muhammed’s examples and demands in the Quran. Islamic armies have been conquering and butchering non Muslims ever since Islam came about. All the justification they and present day Islamists need is layed out in the Quran.”



    Yes, those Muslims today who take Muhammed’s calling to barbaric levels. But my Muslim neighbors down the street practice their faith and refrain from slitting throats and raping infidels. In fact, tens millions of Muslims from around the world are NOT jihadists. Now, they may still harbor anti-American sentiments, and for legitimate reasons, but they refrain from strapping bombs to themselves and blowing up discotheques. Why? They practice their faith individually and peacefully, just like Christians and Jews who also have feelings of animosity toward other nations, races, ethnicities, or religions. Otherwise, if there was this undeniable call for jihad, where slaying Europeans and Americans guaranteed immediate access to heaven, then my Muslim neighbors down the street would have obliterated the entire neighborhood by now and vaporized themselves in the process.

    “The ‘holocaust’ storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived.”

    Cool story, bro.

    “Your “Shumers” in the US Congress, and their Zionist sponsors with big pockets, have been using the US for making a bloodbath in the Middle East in order to strengthen Israel.”

    Cool story, bromette.

    “When the next terrorist atrocity breaks, let’s hope they start with him.”

    How anti-Christian of you.

    • Replies: @Avery
  62. @Wally

    I never heard of this Jonnie Hargis.

    That’s amusing. Bradley Smith says you’re Jonnie Hargis:

    http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2011/07/codoh-is-strange-world-fetzer-fiasco.html

    More mind boggling delusions from hasbara apartheid Zionist, Andrew Mathis. A demented & lost soul.

    Projection. First of all, I don’t think you know what hasbara means. Second, for you to call me an apartheid supporter is particularly amusing, given what a racist you are. Third, I’m not a Zionist, but you are an ethnic nationalism, so again — your projection is nice.

    He’s lost every debate he’s ever engaged in, they all have.

    What debate have I ever been in? You’ve rigged the results of every one at CODOH, the hive from which you never emerge and to which you try to lure Unz readers.

    All very sad.

    • Replies: @Wally
  63. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Europe is not one country. It’s Sweden and Germany bearing the burden. Asylum Shoppers receive more in those countries.

  64. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factory"] says: • Website

    White folks need to learn from Israel.

    Israel was created from Jews all over the world.

    What do these Jews have in common?

    Shared ancestry. Though differences do exist, there is a genetic link among all Jews.
    Studies show that your average European Jew is genetically closer to a Sephardic Jew than to other Europeans. Genes matter.

    Shared history. All Jews, religious or secular, know of their history as the children of Abraham and Moses. They know of their nomadic status in non-Jewish lands and events like the Holocaust. This is also tied to moral righteousness as the Jewish Narrative sees Jews as victims of evil gentiles throughout the ages. Jewish history justifies Jews whereas white history(as revised by Jewish historians who control the western academia and media) condemns all of white history.

    Reverence for the Holy Land as the sacred home of the Jews. Blood usually becomes more stable with ties to the soil, and Israel has historical and spiritual pedigree.

    A sense of Judeo-centrism. Jews may live in non-Jewish lands but their main priority is serving Jewish identity and interests first. Jews may play nice on the outside but they are always looking out for Jewish interests first.

    Shared language of Hebrew. Reversing the influence of Babelization.

    Without these common ties, Israel would not be possible. It was made of Jews from Germany, Poland, France, Russia, Hungary, America, South Africa, Holland, Morocco, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Egypt, and etc.
    These Jews spoke different languages, had accumulated different customs, ate different foods, had different ideologies, etc. Some remained religious, some became secular(or atheist). Some were conservative, some were liberal-minded. Some were into the culture of virtue(like the Amish), some were into vice profiteering: gangsterism, gambling, porn, Hollywood, MTV, and etc.

    How could such peoples with so many different attitudes, outlooks, and ideologies — capitalism, communism, socialism, libertarianism, anarchism, etc. — come together as a people?
    How could such people communicate with another when they took up different languages in different nations?
    How could Jews come together when some Jews still believed in God while others didn’t?

    They all needed certain core things in common: blood(semitic, pure or in mixture), soil(historical and/or spiritual reverence for the Holy Land), tongue(Hebrew as the Mandarin of all Jews), and a sense of centrism(Jewish identity and interest uber alles).

    It’s easier for a communist Jew, capitalist Jew, anarchist Jew, casino Jew, moralistic Jew, gangster Jew, spiritual Jew, and feminist Jew to form a nation than
    for a socialist Pole, socialist Jew, socialist Chinese, socialist Arab, socialist Negro, socialist Mexican, and etc. to do likewise.
    In the end, ideology isn’t as powerful as identity.

    Ideology is in the mind whereas Identity is in the blood and rooted to the soil and history. Communism once held together Russia with all its all its vassal nations of the USSR. It also held together Warsaw Pact nations. They all spoke of Brotherhood of Workers of the World and worship of Leninism. But all that stuff vanished. What replaced all that stuff is identity. Ideology disappears with the change in creed.
    A Russian Christian who becomes a Russian communist is still Russian. A Russian communist who becomes a Russian capitalist is still Russian. But his abandoned ideologies are gone for good.

    Jews know this, which is why Jews promote identity among themselves, especially in Israel, but Jews seek to undermine it among gentiles. Identity of blood, soil, and history is the real power.

    Jews have one big advantage.
    Some people have an ethnic identity, some have a credo ideology.
    Judaism is dualistic in being both. It is both an abstract belief system and blood-centered tribal identity.

    Japanese mythology is clearly ethnic. It is about Japanese race and Japanese history and Japanese everything. While Judaism is profoundly Jewish, it also has lots of ideas and views of universal and cosmic ramifications and could count as worldview.
    And today, Jews are both the most tribal and global of peoples. This makes them formidable.

  65. Wally [AKA "BobbyBeGood"] says: • Website
    @Andrew E. Mathis

    Bradley Smith? Never met the guy. You’re desperately attempting to harm someone.

    Considering that you’re a fat, beer drinking, red neck racist Zionist, this is all not surprising.

    You have been completely demolished in every “holocau$t” debate you have been in, the record is clear.

    • Replies: @Andrew E. Mathis
  66. @Wally

    Bradley Smith? Never met the guy.

    Really? He seems to have met you. That’s curious.

    [MORE]

    You’re desperately attempting to harm someone.

    Du bist ein Sitzpinkler!

    Oh, relax, Mary.

    If you would cut the crap and stop baiting people from within your Führerbunker, you’d have been left to ferment in your own filth years ago. You created this problem and you’ve always had the ability to end it. You lie in the bed you make. Hear me?

    Considering that you’re a fat

    I’m 185 lbs.

    beer drinking

    Guilty as charged. I have a photo of you that looks to have been taken in a bar (with your wife and what looks to be your mother-in-law). Beer bottles in the upper right corner. I can send a copy of you like.

    red neck

    From http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/redneck

    a white person who lives in a small town or in the country especially in the southern U.S., who typically has a working-class job, and who is seen by others as being uneducated and having opinions and attitudes that are offensive

    I live in a city of 1.5 million people in the Northeast. I work a white-collar job. I have a Ph.D.

    But yes, I am white.

    racist

    You cannot point to a single racist statement I’ve ever made. In contrast, one need only read the texts you post here to see your racism. You are a textbook case of projection.

    Zionist, this is all not surprising.

    I suppose it helps you to think of me as a Zionist. I’m not, but if I were, I’d hardly deny it to the likes of you. You clearly don’t want to live around Jews and you also clearly believe that Arabs are inferior “low IQ” people, so I don’t understand your problem with Zionism. Seems like more deflection to me.

    You have been completely demolished in every “holocau$t” debate you have been in, the record is clear.

    The record you keep, you mean.

    Remind me how you stayed out of Vietnam again?

  67. dahoit says:
    @jimbojones

    Why?With the realities of modern Europe,anyone supporting Merkel,Hollande and Cameron are supporting the disintegration of their nations,because they all followed on board the crazy train of the American war of terror.
    I notice the influence of Zion has also eroded European justice,gagged truth seekers,and turned the populace against itself,as they obviously have had the brain numbing Zionists babbling serial lies like here.
    And they,after Paris,are smiling!
    See what we deal with everyday!(Which,for some unfathomable reason,actually doesn’t,only to their enemies)

  68. dahoit says:
    @Avery

    Turks?;Zion is behind all of this crap,since 1948.The war of terror,and every terrible policy decision of the last 40 years or so in America has been Zionist MSM approved.
    Privatization of healthcare,elimination of fiscal restraint and laws,Iraq 1,2,Vietnam,Libya,Syria,Iran bellicosity,Russian animosity,political choice,failure to properly investigate 9-11,and the canonizing of the sh*thead who permitted it on his watch!Todays news!(etc,etc,etc……)
    Zionist inspired and backed totally.
    Ottomans,blech.

    • Replies: @Enrique Cardova
    , @Avery
  69. Merkel isn’t plotting to “overthrow” her country. In fact she is being rather shrewd. She knows that overall Germany’s population is aging and declining. The new immigrants will fill low-end slots at the bottom of the economy, adding to total output- meaning that the high pension payments and welfare state benefits that native Germans enjoy can be maintained.

    As for the quest to engineer a single European identity, this is nothing new. One German made an exceptional attempt just 60 years ago, by liquidating various “parasitic” bodies- that had lived in Germany and surrounding countries for centuries. His name was Adolf Hitler. But Merkel has no intention of replacing native German people. Why would she be as foolish as that? Germany is an economic and technological powerhouse, with a high-priced welfare state. But its declining population is a problem that threatens that.

    Much hoped for immigration from the former Eastern bloc has not solved the problem. White Russians for example have not added much. Indeed they are busy aborting two out of every three children, and all the white former Eastern block countries have and continue to have high rates of abortion. White Germans too have a healthy abortion rate. Europeans simply are not cranking out the white babies needed to sustain their population. The rise of “gay” marriage and gay acceptance in Europe, a product of relentless internal development among whites, compounds the problem, removing even more fertile people from the reproduction pool.

    Merkel is aware of this, hence the next logical step is to import Third World immigrants to fill the bottom levels of the economy. It is a logical development, and allows native Germans to still retain control of “the commanding heights.”

    As for the number of immigrants there is little “swamping.” They are not being imported by the millions. For one thing, the reputed 800,000 asylum speakers is Merkel’s SOUND BITE – trial balloon to test the waters. Whether that number actually arrives is far from certain. Hundreds of thousands may actually never even see German soil. Germany may set up temporary camps or shelter for some but it is no certainty that they will be permanently migrating to German soil. Some may be shipped back after vetting. Further Merkel qualifies by saying she is open about admitting “genuine” refugees. What thislikely means is that the Germans will screen the influx, picking of only the best human capital, with the most skills, with the most health, with the least need of social services, perfect for expanding economic output, and shifting the rest away from Germany.

    Some seem to think this means mostly male immigrants- strong backs- but this is not so at all. Young, hard working females can do excellent service in the increasing low-end service sector, as well as factory production work which no longer requires strong backs and bulging muscles to shovel coal, haul dirt or tend furnaces. Much of that heavy work that in the past required mostly men is being phased out, bu automation or outsourcing to Asia. Woman can fill many of the slots filled by men of old. Another bonus is that most of the immigrants will be “Caucasoids” from the “Middle East” – so they are already “white.” This should meet the approval of many Europeans.

    Again, there is a method to Merkel’s madness. Her’s is a shrewd move, siphoning off the best of the ‘Caucasoid” Third World immigrants for Germany, helping, overall, to maintain German economic dominance. Does she need to be more careful in HOW she does this? Sure. There needs to be tight screening and vetting. Does she need to consult more with local sentiment and make adjustments to the overall plan- for example- relocating immigrants to more rural areas, areas of high need etc? Of course. But overall, Merkel’s approach is a sound strategy in dealing with European demographic decline.

  70. @dahoit

    How example were the “Zionists” responsible for the war in Vietnam? So let me guess.. Ho Chi Minh, Vo Nguyen Giap and Mao tse Tung were all on the payroll of the “Zionists”? What other blinding insights you got?

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  71. annamaria says:
    @Enrique Cardova

    “How example were the “Zionists” responsible for the war in Vietnam?”

    Not for Vietnam, but for Iraq, Syria, and Libya – no doubts
    http://rehmat1.com/2011/07/08/israeli-conference-on-syria/

  72. Avery says:
    @Corvinus

    { It’s no trick at all.}
    Yes: a trick.

    {muslims-around-the-world-condemn-terrorism-after-the-paris-attacks}
    Oooo wooow: Muslims condemn. Very impressive. And ?
    Everybody and his brother ‘condemns’.
    What are those ‘condemning’ doing about it ?
    Nothing: they keep sending more radical Islamists to invade Europe to massacre Christians.

    { Ask that same question…}
    Asked and answered: Christianity is 600 years older than Islam.
    Formerly Christian lands were invaded by Muslims invaders.
    Christians were wiped out from their lands.
    By Muslim invaders from Arabia.

    { Prior to Columbus’ arrival, in 1492 there were tens of millions of Native Americans. Within two hundred years, several tribal groups were decimated to near extinction.}
    Unlike Muslims and Turks, nobody in North America denies what happened to Native Americans.
    About 90% fell victim to the diseases they had no immunity to.
    And Europeans have done whatever they could do to compensate for the wrongs done to the natives.

    Muslim invaders deliberately massacred Christians.
    Those who did not want to convert to Islam were slaughtered savagely.
    And to this day Muslim Turks deny they committed Genocide.
    How many Muslim counties have recognized the Genocide of Christians committed by Muslim Turks: Zero.
    That is the difference between Christians and denialist Muslims. .

    { So, were the Christians who organized and carried out the genocide of Native Americans real Christians or NOT-Christians?}
    Nice try: there was no organized ‘genocide’.
    There was no ‘genocide’.
    Your Muslim kin, Turks, on the other hand organized and carried out the Genocide of Christians of Asia Minor.

    { In fact, tens millions of Muslims from around the world are NOT jihadists.}
    Actually the number is 100s of millions of Muslims are not jihadists.
    But there are enough of them to be an existential threat to Western Christian civilization.

    Facts are indisputable: Muslims in Christian Europe are massacring Christians and crowding them out in their own lands.
    Christians in Muslim majority countries are running for their lives.

  73. Avery says:
    @annamaria

    {An objective look at the world does, indeed, avoid “you are with us or against us.”}

    An objective look at the world give me this objective conclusion: when a (radical) Islamist gives me (generic ‘me’) the choice of converting to Islam or having my throat cut, then it is definitely me/us against them.

    And I am not aware of single case today of a Muslim being forced to convert to Christianity on pain of death: are you ?

  74. Avery says:
    @dahoit

    {Turks?;Zion is behind all of this crap,since 1948…..Ottomans,blech.}

    Zionists may be behind a lot of terrible things that have transpired in the world.
    Or they may not be.

    Not really my concern in the particular case of Muslim Turks committing Genocide of about 4 million Christians in Asia Minor between 1915-1923, alone.
    And I have heard all the wild conspiracy theories of Dönmeh allegedly being the organizers of Armenian Genocide. I have also seen authenticated documents that Klingons had organized it, and duped the not-so-bright Turks (….with a little help from Kurds) into actually carrying it out. The documents looked quite authentic, with the genuine Imperial Seal of the Klingon Empire.

    Well, the problem with all those conspiracy theories is that there were no Dönmeh in Uyguristan, where nomadic Turkic tribes came from.
    There were no Dönmeh in the hordes of Seljuk Turks when they ‘arrived’ at the outer edges of the Armenian Highlands around 1000A.D.

    Turkic tribes have been massacring, ethnically cleansing, and forcibly Islamizing Christians of Asia Minor for centuries.
    Turks are the ones currently squatting on Christian lands of Asia Minor: not Jews.
    The criminal state guilty of Genocide of about 4 million Christians is called Türkiye: nor Israel, nor Judea.
    The language they speak is Turkish.
    Their religion is Islam.
    Current Turk leaders are vociferously and actively denying the Armenian Genocide.
    If they had proof of Jewish involvement in the AG in their archives, a charge of Genocide – a crime against humanity – which is hanging like a Sword of Damocles over their collective denialist head, they would publicize it yesterday.
    Islamist Neo-Sultan Erdogan blames Jews and Israel for everything.
    What a gift it would be for Turks to be able to finally pin the AG on Jews.

    Go and peddle your harebrained conspiracy theories to somebody else: you got the wrong number.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  75. @Romanian

    I got the solution. Prohibit German women from marrying the so-called “war refugees.”

    So, no women for the angry, manly Islamics. No “Baby Bombers” popping out the bellies of the Germans.

    If they don’t like that, then “Hit the Road, Mohammed!”

    And the Germans might want to reconsider their gun laws and allow sales of anti-personnel weapons like AKMs, AR-15s and Glocks.

    • Replies: @Romanian
  76. Romanian says:
    @Joe Stalin

    Really? Prohibit marriage? Illegitimacy is rife these days, do you think unmarriageability will stand in the way of having a wonderful mixed-culture baby?

    Also, the women here may not be appropriate for respectable family building, since they are unlikely to have been pure before marriage. The refugees will get what fun they can, and then send back home for a proper girl. BAM, that’s an immediate doubling of their population. Just like the Turkish guest workers who stayed on.

    In my opinion, a lot of these migrations are the result of polygamy back home, which automatically leaves some men out of the game. In the past, they would resign themselves to pederasty, fallen women and dying childless, but now they can come to Europe, get a dish on the side and work their way into becoming more attractive for the family of a bride back home – hereditary European citizenship, possibility of chain migration, well settled in a place, welfare + maybe a job.

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  77. Corvinus says:
    @Avery

    “Nothing: they keep sending more radical Islamists to invade Europe to massacre Christians.”

    The only ones sending in Islamic extremists to Europe is…Islamic extremists.

    “Formerly Christian lands were invaded by Muslims invaders. Christians were wiped out from their lands. By Muslim invaders from Arabia.”

    Using your same logic, non-Christian lands were invaded by Christian invaders. Non-Christian were wiped out of their lands. By Christians from Europe. Are you disavowing this fact?

    “Unlike Muslims and Turks, nobody in North America denies what happened to Native Americans.”

    Nobody? You really need to read up on your history, as when the tribal cleansing was taking place in the 1600, 1700, and 1800’s, innumerable numbers of Americans not only denied that genocide was taking place, they refused to label it in that manner.

    “And Europeans have done whatever they could do to compensate for the wrongs done to the natives.”

    Including the genocide of Native Americans, right?

    “How many Muslim counties have recognized the Genocide of Christians committed by Muslim Turks: Zero.”

    Of course Muslim governments are not going to acknowledge atrocities, similar to ANY government that calls into question that labeling, whether or not that labeling has been established as fact. Now, it’s not a matter of Muslim countries and their governments, but the citizens that reside in those countries as well as in the United States.

    http://religiondispatches.org/an-american-muslim-responds-to-muslim-orgs-questioning-armenian-genocide

    The Kurds, who are Muslim, have recognized the Armenian situation as a genocide.

    Just so that you know, the British government has yet label this even as genocide. Australia does not view the events at the end of the Ottoman Empire as a genocide. Denmark believes that the genocide recognition should be discussed by historians, not politicians. The Bulgarian Parliament adopted a declaration recognizing the “mass extermination of the Armenian People in the Ottoman Empire” in the period 1915-1922, but did not use the word “genocide”.

    And the situation is not as “easy” to label as one may think. It’s politically and socially complex, unfortunately.

    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-why-armenia-genocide-recognition-remains-a-tough-sell-20150426-story.html

    “Muslim invaders deliberately massacred Christians. Those who did not want to convert to Islam were slaughtered savagely.”

    That’s what happens in war and the spread of religion, similar to Christian atrocities.

    “Nice try: there was no organized ‘genocide’.”

    You just stated that “nobody in North America denies what happened to Native Americans” regarding that they were “decimated to near extinction. Now you are claiming that Europeans did NOT organize “genocide” of North and South American tribal groups. YOU WILL NEED TO OFFER PROOF OR RETRACT.

    What say you about this statement–The deliberate clearing of territories of their original inhabitants to make them exploitable for purposes of resource extraction or colonial settlements, well-established by Europeans, Asians, and Africans, would constitute genocide.

    “But there are enough of them to be an existential threat to Western Christian civilization.”

    A threat to civilization would be more accurate.

    ”Muslims in Christian Europe are massacring Christians and crowding them out in their own lands.”

    Christians in Africa are massacring Muslims and crowding them out in their own lands. Are you willing to label this situation “genocide”?

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa/tens-of-thousands-of-muslims-flee-christian-militias-in-central-african-republic/2014/02/07/5a1adbb2-9032-11e3-84e1-27626c5ef5fb_story.html

    ”Ottoman Turks have now successfully planted their Islamist agent as Sultanette of Germany, and are taking over Europe from inside.”

    You have yet to offer evidence to your statement. Submit proof or retract your assertion.

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  78. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I am German. And I usually stop reading a comment on Unz as soon as I see the phrase “German national character”.

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  79. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Watching the U. S. government’s behavior regarding border enforcement and illegal immigration, I have long said “The government is sorely disappointed with the electorate and has adopted a policy to replace them.” At any time in the last 40 years, an American plebiscite on the question “Should all illegal immigrants be deported?” would have received at least a 70% YES vote, yet in all that time, our alleged Representatives have done the opposite. (That’s one of the ways we know that present day “representative democracy” is a sham to legitimize our rulers’ actions.)

    You have well illustrated that, like the citizens of the USA, the citizens of the European nations are not sovereign in their own countries, and that those governments serve other masters. It’s the dominant scandal of our age. Does anyone want to discuss how to correct it?

  80. @Romanian

    Why NOT prohibit marriage? If we block that and can get away with that, we can sure as hell stop their auslander Muzzie brides from legally entering the European countries. Remember, in the USA, they imported very few female Chinese for the Chinese male workers until later in the 20th century. I don’t have any problem with a country not wanting the hostiles to populate their kindegardens.

    • Replies: @Romanian
  81. Romanian says:
    @Joe Stalin

    Aaaa, I get you. Don’t think it can work. You’re better off just trying to expel the population or frighten it away.

  82. Avery says:
    @Corvinus

    { Using your same logic, non-Christian lands were invaded by Christian invaders. Non-Christian were wiped out of their lands. By Christians from Europe. Are you disavowing this fact?}

    No: your illogic is imply illogical.
    Read some history: Christianity was largely spread by proselytizing; Islam was largely spread by violence, forcible conversion.
    Here you go, happens even today, in 2015;
    http://www.pakistanchristianpost.com/detail.php?hnewsid=5663
    [CHANGA MANGA: October 24, 2015. (PCP) A Christian man namely Sajid Masih’s life in danger after his Christian fiancée was abducted and forcibly converted to Islam and given in marriage with a Muslim man namely Allah Rakha.]
    Welcome to Islamistan.

    { You just stated that “nobody in North America denies what happened to Native Americans”}
    Nobody in North America is denying Europeans invaded and settled in North America.
    Nobody in North America is denying Native Americans were crowded out and lost most of their lands.
    80%-90% of Native Americans were inadvertently killed due to diseases brought by Europeans. Europeans had immunity, native didn’t.
    You throwing the word ‘genocide’ around like candy does not make every atrocity a genocide.
    You are desperate to find something to cover up the genocides committed by your co-religionist Muslims.

    { The Kurds, who are Muslim, have recognized the Armenian situation as a genocide.}
    This is what I wrote: [“How many Muslim countries have recognized the Genocide of Christians committed by Muslim Turks: Zero.]
    Kurds are not a country.

    { Christians in Africa are massacring Muslims and crowding them out in their own lands. Are you willing to label this situation “genocide”?}
    Again: you are desperate to find something to cover up the genocide your co-religionist Muslims have committed against Christians.
    Massacring is not Genocide: find out what’s the definition of genocide is.
    Christian states have committed war crimes, massacres, etc, etc.
    There are atrocities, massacres, ethnic cleansing, war crimes, inadvertent civilian casualties of war. And then there is Genocide.

    {Submit proof or retract your assertion.}
    Really ?
    Or what ?
    You gonna get mad and stop reading my posts ?
    Your posts are full of baseless assertions and nonsense.
    You don’t even understand – or pretend not to understand – common English sentences, as proven by your nonsensical counter that individual Kurds recognize the AG, when I clearly wrote “Muslim countries”.
    Lots of individual Turks have recognized the AG.
    Lots of individual Turks are today bravely battling their denialist countrymen in Turkey, risking jail, or even worse.
    We are talking about States, not individuals, or NGOs

  83. scoops says:
    @Romanian

    native germans must make kids! even if they think they think they are tumors!

  84. Corvinus says:

    Me—Using your same logic, non-Christian lands were invaded by Christian invaders. Non-Christian were wiped out of their lands. By Christians from Europe. Are you disavowing this fact?}

    You—No: your illogic is imply illogical. Read some history: Christianity was largely spread by proselytizing; Islam was largely spread by violence, forcible conversion.

    Your intellectual dishonesty is duly noted. There is noting illogic by pointing out how non-Christians were purposely demoralized by Christians. Bartolomeo de las Casas, a Spanish theologian, extensive wrote in the 1520’s about the atrocities committed by the colonizers against indigenous peoples, in particular how natives were coerced to embrace Christianity through the encomienda system.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encomienda

    “You don’t even understand – or pretend not to understand – common English sentences, as proven by your nonsensical counter that individual Kurds recognize the AG, when I clearly wrote “Muslim countries”.”

    I merely mentioned the Kurds to indicate that this entire group recognizes the Armenian situation. I also directed your attention to the fact that several Christian countries do NOT acknowledge the Turkish genocide.

    “Massacring is not Genocide: find out what’s the definition of genocide is.”

    The situation in Africa involving Christians indiscriminately and brutally slaughtering non-Christians meets the criteria of genocide—the deliberate killing of a large group of people—since multiple massacres have taken place over a series of time. You are being intellectually dishonest.

    “Really ? Or what ? You gonna get mad and stop reading my posts ?”

    

You lack credibility when you make claims without the requisite evidence. Do you even know how debate works?

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    , @Avery
    , @Avery
  85. Avery says:
    @Corvinus

    {Your intellectual dishonesty is duly noted.}
    {You lack credibility when you make claims without the requisite evidence. Do you even know how debate works?}

    I don’t so-called “debate” Islamist propagandists.
    I know how to debunk disinformation and anti-Christian proselytizing by Islamophile bigots whose goal it is to Islamize Christian lands in general and Christian Europe in particular.

    See if you can “debate” this:
    Christianity is 600 years older than Islam.
    Christianity was largely spread by proselytizing.
    Islam was largely spread by force and violence.
    Islam invaded formerly Christian lands and wiped out or forcibly Islamized unwilling Christians.
    1000s of churches were destroyed or converted to mosques.
    Exhibit A: Hagia Sofia church in Muslim occupied Constantinople.

    And do you understand the difference between “largely” and “exclusively, only, solely,…”

  86. Avery says:
    @Corvinus

    {The situation in Africa involving Christians indiscriminately and brutally slaughtering non-Christians meets the criteria of genocide—the deliberate killing of a large group of people—since multiple massacres have taken place over a series of time. You are being intellectually dishonest.}

    “meets the criteria of genocide”: No, it doesn’t.
    If you want to call it “genocide” of African Muslims by African Christians, then you must also call the indiscriminate and brutal slaughtering of African Christians by those same African Muslims “genocide”.

    But neither is.

    Some historical background about Central African Republic, to show that you are an anti-Christian Islamist propagandist and apologist for Islamist murderers.

    Christian militias started indiscriminately killing Muslims in CAR a couple of years after Muslim militias, The Seleka, took power in that same country via a coup and launched an ethnic cleansing campaign against the majority Christian population.
    Christian civilians were indiscriminately slaughtered by Muslim militias.
    Christian villages wiped out.

    {“Seleka leaders promised a new beginning for the people of the Central African Republic, but instead have carried out large-scale attacks on civilians, looting, and murder,” said Daniel Bekele, Africa director at Human Rights Watch. “What’s worse is that the Seleka have recruited children as young as 13 to carry out some of this carnage.”} (from HRW report September 18, 2013)

    After a couple of years of seeing their co-religionists murdered at the hands of Muslim militia, Christians started fighting back and retaliating.
    Do Muslim civilians deserve to be murdered because Muslim militias murdered Christian civilians ? Of course not.
    But that’s what happens when mobs of armed young men with bloodlust are let loose.

    And as is the SOP of anti-Christian Islamist apologists, they start their story at the point in time of history when Muslims are the victims.
    Of course Muslims never victimize first.
    Muslims always victims of those dastardly Christians.
    Sure: sounds plausible

  87. Avery says:
    @Corvinus

    2013:
    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4434407,00.html
    {Kenya terrorists used new tactic to spare some Muslims.
    Gunmen used high-stakes game of 20 Questions to separate Muslims from non-Muslims during deadly attack on Westgate mall; survivor says victims were asked name of Prophet’s mom to sing a religious verse. }

    2015:
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/20/us-mali-attacks-idUSKCN0T90SK20151120#gqm5p5hZSifG6mBp.97
    {Some people were freed by the attackers after showing they could recite verses from the Koran, while others managed to escape or were brought out by security forces.}

    2015:
    http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/02/africa/kenya-university-attack/
    {Joel Ayora, who was on the campus and witnessed the attack, said gunmen burst into a Christian service. Taking hostages from the service, they then “proceeded to the hostels, shooting anybody they came across except their fellows, the Muslims.” The attackers separated students by religion, allowing Muslims to leave and keeping an unknown number of Christians hostage, Agence France-Presse reported.}

    EPILOGUE

    Yep: those dastardly Christians are clearly responsible for Muslim terrorists separating Christian victims and murdering them.
    Yes , of course, we know: they were NOT Muslims. Muslims do NOT murder.
    Muslims do NOT commit Genocide.
    Yeah, we go it.

  88. Corvinus says:

    You listed several instances of radical Muslims engaging in terrorist activities. Bravo on your Internet search.

    “I don’t so-called “debate” Islamist propagandists. I know how to debunk disinformation and anti-Christian proselytizing by Islamophile bigots whose goal it is to Islamize Christian lands in general and Christian Europe in particular.”

    You are hyperventilating. Here is a virtual brown bag so you do not pass out.

    “Christianity was largely spread by proselytizing. Islam was largely spread by force and violence.”

    Not entirely accurate. You ought to study world history.

    When Constantine legalized Christianity in the Roman Empire, pagans became targets for several decades (313-390’s A.D.)—rioting monks trashed temples, forcibly converted non-believers, and murdered philosophers like Hypatia. The old cults remained for several generations in rural areas, but Christianity became the dominant power.

    Christianity that was brought by the Europeans to the New World involved coercion through force and violence. This process lasted from the 1400’s well into the 1800’s. Bartolomé de las Casas was a Spanish historian and Dominican friar in the 1500’s who chronicled the first decades of colonization of the West Indies and focused on the atrocities committed by the colonizers against the indigenous peoples, including conversion against one’s will.

    Muslims ruled Spain for about 800 years. Several historical sources state that Visogothic rulers actually aided in the Islamic conquest of Spain to secure their own political and economic fortunes. There were eight centuries when the interaction of Christian and Islamic cultures and religions was intense and in constant flux, usually manifesting itself as a political struggle of competing religious groups. During this time frame, it was common to see Christians at the service of Moorish lords and vice versa.

    Pope Innocent III pronounced in 1201 that even if torture and intimidation had been employed in receiving the sacrament, one nevertheless “…does receive the impress of Christianity and may be forced to observe the Christian Faith as one who expressed a conditional willingness though, absolutely speaking, he was unwilling…[For] the grace of Baptism had been received, and they had been anointed with the sacred oil, and had participated in the body of the Lord, they might properly be forced to hold to the faith which they had accepted perforce, lest the name of the Lord be blasphemed, and lest they hold in contempt and consider vile the faith they had joined.”

    Several million Arabs are Coptic Christians in Arabia. Had Muslims largely used the sword, there would not have been a single Arab there who would have remained a Christian.

    Indonesia is a country that has the most Muslims in the world. Please tell me which Muslim army went to largely conquer here and used force to convert them.

    Islam has spread rapidly on the East Coast of Africa. Please tell me which Muslim army went to largely conquer here and used force to convert them.

    “If you want to call it “genocide” of African Muslims by African Christians, then you must also call the indiscriminate and brutal slaughtering of African Christians by those same African Muslims “genocide”.”

    Absolutely.

    “Christian militias started indiscriminately killing Muslims in CAR a couple of years after Muslim militias, The Seleka, took power in that same country via a coup and launched an ethnic cleansing campaign against the majority Christian population. Christian civilians were indiscriminately slaughtered by Muslim militias. Christian villages wiped out.”

    **The situation in Africa involving Christians indiscriminately and brutally slaughtering non-Christians meets the criteria of genocide—the deliberate killing of a large group of people—since multiple massacres have taken place over a series of time.

    You just described genocide, as I did with my statement**. You are blatantly lying when you state both situations fail to meet the requisite criteria.

    “Do Muslim civilians deserve to be murdered because Muslim militias murdered Christian civilians? Of course not. But that’s what happens when mobs of armed young men with bloodlust are let loose.”

    Indeed, genocide was committed by Muslims and Christians.

    “Of course Muslims never victimize first. Muslims always victims of those dastardly Christians.”

    Are you an aspie?

  89. Avery says:

    {Are you an aspie?}

    Are you an idiot ?
    Or just the standard issue anti-Christian IslamoFascist Islamophile apologist for the the genocidal Islamist mass-murderers.

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    , @annamaria
  90. GL says:

    To me, the level of populist right-wing argumentation both in the article and in the comment section is truly troubling, especially since it gets the picture of Angela Merkel completely wrong and it looks at the matter only on a superficial level. The article’s main problem is that by criticizing Merkel’s refugee policy, the author completely buys into the picture of the nice and welcoming German government that Merkel established. It ignores much of what is going on, it does not see that all of Merkel’s actions are (center-)right politics. This might be a welcoming thought for the many (sorry to say this) right-wing morons around here, but to me and many other Germans it is outrageous and a serious problem in its own right.

    In particular, the problem is that Angela Merkel hypocritically sells herself as accepting and welcoming all those people fleeing from terror and war while she is actually deeply committed to getting rid of them as soon as possible. According to a recent article in the Spiegel International (http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/refugee-crisis-leads-to-new-focus-of-german-foreign-policy-a-1062116.html) there is a significant shift in German foreign policy and also in its development policy: the German government is aiming at contracts with the countries of origin of many refugees that basically tell those countries: You get some of our money, but only if you make sure to take back all the refugees and stop more of them from coming! Otherwise, we’ll cut financial support. The quest is called “refugee repatriation.”

    Furthermore, part of the actual problem is that the government uses the refugee crisis to justify increasing German military action as part of the new quest to “combat the causes of refugee flight,” seemingly following the credo: Hey, let’s stop people from fleeing war by making more war! “[T]he heart of the new concept,” the Spiegel article says, “will be Germany’s military.” Another of Berlin’s primary goals, the article describes, is to ensure “that at least part of the country [Afghanistan] remains safe enough that rejected asylum-seekers can reasonably be deported.” Germany is also expanding its missions in Iraq and Mali for the same reason. A mission to Libya, to secure the region and “slow the wave of refugees” is also considered. Accordingly, German government actions can in no way be interpreted as a “plot to swamp Germany with indigent illegal aliens” but rather, the picture of the refugee crisis painted by the government and the media ultimately serves to sell substantial military engagement to its citizenry; military engagement that will, as part of the bigger US strategy, only perpetuate chaos in the troubled regions.

  91. Corvinus says:
    @Avery

    At least you are not disputing what I stated.

    “Or just the standard issue anti-Christian IslamoFascist Islamophile apologist for the the genocidal Islamist mass-murderers.”

    This is a dialectic conservation, not rhetorical. You’re going to have to keep up.

  92. annamaria says:
    @Avery

    Avery, the insults are not an argument.
    A side question: what denomination did Adolf Hitler belong to? Richard Cheney? Joseph Stalin (Dzhugashvilli)? What denomination was Harry S. Truman, the decider that ordered the use of the nuclear weapon on civilian population?
    http://www.fogonazos.es/2007/02/hiroshima-pictures-they-didnt-want-us_05.html
    Truman preaching: “An enduring peace can be built only upon Christian principles. To such a consummation we dedicate all our resources, both spiritual and material, remembering always that except the Lord build the house, they labor in vain who build it.”

  93. Steve says:

    Merkel is quite simply a monster, and an out of control one at that. She is destroying Germany and Europe.

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