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PREDICTABLY, the Joint Chiefs of Staff have already pooh-poohed President Trump’s July 26th LGBTQ directives, banning the politicized transgender production from the theater of war.

Why “predictably” (preachy, too)? Whether Republicans like it or not, the military is government; it works like government; is financed like government, and is marred by the same inherent malignancies of government. Like all government-run divisions and departments, the US military is manacled by multiculturalism, feminism and all manner of outré sexual politics, affirmative action, and political correctness that can kill.

And has killed.

Islam Über Alles

The most notorious example of killer PC in the military was Major Nidal Malik Hasan. After he murdered 13, “Commander Colonel Steven Braverman, a colleague of Hasan at the Darnall army medical center on Fort Hood, vouched that Hasan had performed well in his job and had shown no obvious signs of trouble.”

He lied! For it mattered not to the military brass that this mass murderer in-the-making was a lousy and sadistic psychiatrist, that the topic of his “medical” lectures was Jihad, not his VA patients, and that “Soldier of Allah” was embossed on his calling card. The US military made a conscious decision to keep Major Hasan in style.

Hasan’s recorded professional and personal failings notwithstanding, his higher-ups thought he was worth the risk—that he deserved his secret security clearance, his rank, and a six-figure income. With military imprimatur had Hasan breezed about Fort Hood in his Lawrence of Arabia robes.

Likewise did the late Lieutenant General Robert W. Cone, commander of III Corps at Fort Hood, brag about the “no-guns” policies on that base. These left Hasan’s victims helpless: “As a matter of practice, we don’t carry weapons here, this is our home.” A funeral home for some!

LGBTQ as Social Engineering

LGBTQ is a political program why? Central to the concept of “Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer and Questioning” in the military is the idea of a group whose members have chosen to identify not as Private X or Private Y, but as a party to a political fraternity that promises and delivers an aggressive, noisy, sexual identity politics.

Evangelizing for the cause is implicit in the introduction of this political production into the military. Ditto payment for drastic elective medical procedures and the attendant hormonal maintenance. In other words, LGBTQ in the military isn’t about enhancing a fighting force, it’s about introducing another state-driven reformation program. Egalitarian access here aims, inadvertently (as always), to grow an arm of government and, at the same time, “re-educate” the country.

Moreover, LGBTQ in the military is but another “Draconian social policy [enforced] without showing any interest in—and in many cases actively suppressing—good-faith information about how those policies [are] playing out at ground level,” in the prescient words of Stephanie Gutmann, author of “The Kinder, Gentler Military: Can America’s Gender-Neutral Fighting Force Still Win Wars?”

From Gender Neutrality to Gender Fluidity

Girls: It was about their presence in the military that Gutmann was warning, circa 2000, not “Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer and Questioning.” As trailblazing as Ms. Gutmann’s shoe-leather investigation was, back then, into the way women had transformed the military, its morale and readiness—never could this author have imagined that from gender neutrality, the military would move into the even Braver New World of gender fluidity.

Gutmann saddled “Presidents George Bush and Bill Clinton, Secretaries of Defense Richard Cheney, Les Aspin, and William Cohen, the Congresses who wrote and passed the bills they signed, and the Pentagon leadership who just grinned nervously and sat on their hands while all of this was going on.”

What were the fatal conceits of these leaders and their legislation?

“One of the projects mesmerizing the brass throughout the nineties was the integration of women. … [T]he nineties were a decade in which the brass handed over their soldiers to social planners in love with an unworkable (and in many senses undesirable) vision of a politically correct utopia, one in which men and women toil side by side, equally good at the same tasks, interchangeable, and, of course, utterly undistracted by sexual interest.”

“[W]omen have been in the forces since … well … forever,” observed Gutmann. “But something new happened in the nineties in respect to the way the military handled ‘women’s issues.’ The goals “changed from making good use of the relatively small numbers of women the military had been attracting over the years, to achieving what President Clinton and Secretary of the Army Togo West [had] called ‘a force that looks like America.’”

The rest is history. The “New Army,” as it was openly termed, was created, “the warrior culture” obliterated, replaced with a weepy sensitivity. What appalled Ms. Gutmann was, again, the utter disinterest expressed by “the big boys (and a few big girls)” “in the hearts and minds of soldiers, sailors, Marines, and airmen in various ways during the last half of the nineties.”

This craven indifference is still apparent today, and is evinced in leadership’s reaction to President Trump’s transgender-policy impetus. When Sen. Orrin Hatch, joined by GOP leaders, enjoined the president against his transgender ban—did he/they show any interest in “good-faith information” about how transsexualism “plays out at ground level,” to echo Gutmann’s charge against political and military leadership, circa 2000?

Do these arch social-planners give a hoot about how flesh-and-blood men interact with a mate who suddenly grows breasts and bats eyelashes at a buddy? And how do these layered dynamics affect life-and-death situations?

Still, LGBTQ in the military is inconsequential by now. It’s a minor matter in a spent force, shot through with punitive sexual politics, hobbled and demoralized by the needs of women, as interpreted by military and political leadership.

A Few Good Women

ORDER IT NOW

To the surprise of liberals, a few good women have protested. Former Army Spec. Catherine Aspy, for instance. Her account, “published in Reader’s Digest, February, 1999,” was relayed by columnist Fred Reed. Aspy, who had “graduated from Harvard in 1992 and enlisted in the Army in 1995,” said this:

“I was stunned. The Army was a vast day-care center, full of unmarried teen-age mothers using it as a welfare home. I took training seriously and really tried to keep up with the men. I found I couldn’t. It wasn’t even close. I had no idea the difference in physical ability was so huge. There were always crowds of women sitting out exercises or on crutches from training injuries. They [the Army] were so scared of sexual harassment that women weren’t allowed to go anywhere without another woman along. They called them ‘Battle Buddies.’ It was crazy. I was twenty-six years old but I couldn’t go to the bathroom by myself.”

Neutered Since the 1990s

Biological reprogramming and brainwashing, curtesy of Rome on the Potomac, were already plain to see in a Pentagon-endorsed VH1 series entitled “Military Diaries,” which this writer covered in 2002. Touted as a “powerful firsthand look at our heroes, their stories and the music that gets them through,” this “militarytainment” could but strengthen the resolve of the enemy.

Welcoming the viewer were the thrusting pelvis and pendulous breasts of a recruit by the name of Charlie—swaying to the music—followed by Laurie, Danielle, Paul, and Jimmie, among others. These poster-girlie recruits wanted viewers to know that their “real duty is to provide humanitarian aid to the Afghans” (it’s in the revised Oath of Enlistment, apparently). They shared their dreams of being “self-help authors.” And they imparted the joys of manning posts like “Diversity Awareness Officers” and “Drug and Alcohol Counselors.” Suffice it to say that the “human face” of our coed men and women of the armed forces exudes mush, not mettle. “Military Diaries” was a motivational video for America’s ascetic, Islamic enemy.

Instead of being ashamed of this let-it-all-hang-out credo, the men at the top authorized it, proud to parade emotional whimsy like they would a Purple Heart.

Not to venture into X-rated conversation, but XX in the military has been a boon to … urology. The “politically driven reformation,” since the 1990s, has seen racy descriptions in medical journals about incontinence and urinary tract infections (UTIs) plaguing our military lasses in deployment settings. In addition to their inferior physical strength and superior propensity for neuroses and sexual showiness; women’s urinary tracts suffer in “austere environments.” ISIS formations, needless to say, are free of UTIs, because they’re not freighted by women.

In any event, LGBTQ is a fig leaf, camouflaging that the army was neutered by “recruiting nineties style,” where nothing less than “proportional representation” of women became the recruiting goal. The official line then became “something like, ‘We want you [ladies] to join us; we want you to stay with us. Tell us what you don’t feel ‘comfortable’ with so we can change it.”

And they did.

Ultimately, the idea that everyone is eligible to serve in government institutions runs counter to the imperative to contain government growth and reach.

Ilana Mercer has been writing a paleolibertarian column since 1999, and is the author of The Trump Revolution: The Donald’s Creative Destruction Deconstructed (June, 2016) & Into the Cannibal’s Pot: Lessons for America From Post-Apartheid South Africa (2011). Follow her on Twitter, Facebook,Gab & YouTube.

 
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  1. “women’s urinary tracts suffer in ‘austere environments.’”

    Oh, really? Mine hasn’t. And it’s not because of great attention to personal hygiene. I’ve been single and solitary much of my life, and appreciative of the opportunity to save on clothing, hot water and laundry costs. Maybe those others are bathing too much, out of a false belief that it’s necessary for their health.

  2. Gene Su says:

    It used to be that Americans, especially up to World War 2, were proud that their military can assimilate every teenage boy born on American soil, even (or especially) if he was the son of immigrants. Military schools were for recalcitrant sons (“The Military will make a Man out of you.”)

    Was America the first nation in history with this mentality?

    It also seems that we dropped this mentality after Vietnam. I heard that there were a lot of mutinies in Vietnam (epsecially from disgruntled black conscripts?). We haven’t had a military draft since and we might never will again. The AFQT, ASVAB, and other tests were instituted to carefully vet all perspective recruits to ensure that they are willing and able to do that things an ideal soldier is able to do (follow orders, keep cool under intense pressure, march into dangerous situations).

    http://isteve.blogspot.com/2013/04/almost-100-million-people-arent-smart.html

    Am I correct in my reading and conclusions?

    • Replies: @dearieme
    , @LiberTarHeel
  3. TWS says:
    @Grace Jones

    Yikes! That’s either the funniest joke our saddest comment I’ve read in a long time. I can’t tell which.

    • Agree: Per/Norway
    • Replies: @Grace Jones
  4. Why do they need homos and trannies in military and government when most people in Congress and Deep State a bunch of bitches and whores to the GLOB?

    I mean McCain and Graham might as well be fruits and fairies, the way they cuck out to the Power all the time.

  5. HAHAHAHAHAHA! I joined the Army in 1985 and hated every minute of it, as a 71L (clerk/typist). I mostly did it because my best friend in high school (a homosexual) washed out after about a month of Basic, and I wanted to prove I was better than him (I did). I also wanted free health care and free babies. I did and got. I did NOT want to be in a war. I wasn’t, but there were a LOT of lesbians in my company, including drill sergeants. Ridiculous!

    Did my time and flew outta there as fast as I could; now I get thanked for my “service.”

    LOL.

    The whole time I was in, I was being chased around by high-level lesbians and all-the way-up-the ranks-black men (up to first-sergeant and sergeant-major, nevermind the other piddling little assholes I was surrounded by, from private on up). I used to be a SJW; now I loathe Blacks and lesbians with a purple passion–tho’ I still have a soft spot for gay men–THEY never bothered me. Go figure. Turn it around, guys, you’re doing an excellent job. I say, throw ALL the ufkcing snowflakes in the army–things will change. At least I had the sense to recognize my limitations–I wasn’t in for Infantry; I was a TYPIST.

    Oh, and I believe I passed my PT tests more out of IT-HAS-TO-BE-DONE, rather than any actual achievement. Moving me on–it was the ONLY PT test I ever passed, before graduation from Basic or SINCE. (and I wasn’t attractive enough to be held back and repeatedly raped by these assholes, as some of my contemporaries were).

    I like to say I somehow overcame my physical limitations that ONE time, but age has granted me wisdom. I didn’t pass–they faked me through ‘cuz they HAD to. I think my official time on the 2-mile run came in about two SECONDS below failing, so, I guess my high school friend probably DID do better, since he was male–he just had the misfortune of being a BLATANT faggot. Some recruiter must have been BLIND.

    So, the Army taught me, SJW in 1985, thinking how racism was just EVIL, to being an “n-word” spouting communist in the space of 3 years–less, actually–I hated Blacks by the end of Basic. What’s that, about 4 weeks? Lesbians never did appeal, but they were nowhere NEAR as aggressive as Black guys persuing a vaguely-attractive White girl, plus, all the lesbians I ever saw you could spot from MILES away. Cute girls (White), however, were persued MERCILESSLY by both factions, also aided by horney White MALES of whatever grade. And if you REPORTED anything? Yer ass was grass, so getting groped on a daily basis was just part of the job, along with being ordered to train in secluded computer rooms or receive “driver’s training” from gropers, superiors, n-words, etc., was par for the course–these assholes were watching you and scheduling time. Plus one-on-one restaurant face-time with n-word first sergeants and master-sergeants, along with the guy in charge of 544th Mt. Btn. office of vehicle repair–don’t remember what the actual name was, the Warrant Officer Byrd, Captain McClousky (a religious nut), Lt. Fox, Captain Somebody (don’t remember his name), some sergeant, 3 sergeants, 2 privates, 1 specialist. Let’s see–The major (A Kraut–accent and all), and 2 Mexicans. TWO White girls–one a sergeant who was fucking the other sergeant n-word, and ME. Except for specifically mentioned, all were n-words.

    Oh I forgot the computer room groper was a sgt1stclass, and the driver trainer was an E-5. Both those shits were white..

    Oh, Army life was a ufcking joy.

    Lynching wasn’t that bad of a policy, when it came to molesting White women, comes frequently to mind. Even the White guys should be hung by their nuts. Fuck’s sake, I was a TYPIST!

    Sorry about being a Communist, but nobody’s perfect.

  6. @Pissedoffalese

    Oh, and wanna guess how many people stood up for me? McClousky, the n-word Captain religious nut, and I forgot about Riebesell–another fkcuing GERMAN who became 1st Sergeant later on. And a few white-girl privates/specialists like me. Riebesell, however, wanted me to have his surrogate baby, so his motives aren’t exactly lily white either. He was, however, WHITE, even tho’ he offered me money for my son when he was born. Threw me a baby shower that NOBODY came to, just to prove it, and offered me $20 thousand to have his baby (they were sterile), but didn’t reckon on my ex being so weird that even IVF would seem like ufcking his woman, and I WOULDA DONE IT, but they outright tried to BUY my child–offered me money.

    They wanted my son. I’m surprised they didn’t just call CPS or the cops

    Thus it goes.

  7. Ilana forgot to mention that gem of a statement in the wake of the Fort Hood shooting from Army Chief of Staff General Casey:

    “Our diversity, not only in our Army, but in our country, is a strength. And as horrific as this tragedy was, if our diversity becomes a casualty, I think that’s worse.”

    That pretty much sums it up.

    • Replies: @Prusmc
    , @Simply Simon
  8. Realist says:
    @Grace Jones

    That probably is posted by the Grace Jones….a scummy little bitch for sure.

    • Replies: @Grace Jones
  9. Realist says:
    @Priss Factor

    “I mean McCain and Graham might as well be fruits and fairies, the way they cuck out to the Power all the time.”

    What do you mean ‘might as well be….’?

  10. dearieme says:
    @Grace Jones

    “Maybe those others are bathing too much, out of a false belief that it’s necessary for their health.”

    That’s interesting. I’ve long assumed that the US’s slightly shorter life expectancy compared to other advanced countries was due to an excess of dentistry. But maybe it’s due to too many showers. (Why you install such lousy showers is a different question.)

  11. dearieme says:
    @Gene Su

    “Was America the first nation in history with this mentality?” I dare say the Romans took a similar view.

    • Agree: Logan
    • Replies: @Logan
    , @another fred
  12. imbroglio says:

    Tucker Carlson sought, perhaps less effectively, to make much the same point the other night. Ilana mentions Fred Reed for whom this issue has been a bête noir. Aside from the go along to get along mentality inherent in any institution, maybe the military is consciously undergoing a shift from its mission as a fighting force, prepared to engage foreign wars in more or less conventional style, to becoming a domestic surveillance and control operation in terms of its lower-ranking, ground personnel in infantry and artillery. If America is a congeries of competing races, genders and other such identities, each striving against the other for civilian priority, it makes sense to seek equivalent balance in the military.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Ace
  13. Old fogey says:
    @Pissedoffalese

    I’m an old fogey, so my mind is still back in the days of the wacs and the waves, when women joined the armed services to do desk jobs so that the men would be free to fight the enemy. Women should never be put deliberately in harm’s way because we women are by definition more valuable for humanity’s continued existence than men.

    When the feminists fought to get women’s numbers in the services increased, and more integrated with men it seemed obvious to me that they did this because they wanted women to gain easy sexual access to the men and other lesbians.

    How could you be surprised to find that men view the women who join the armed services as more available than women who don’t? How could you be surprised to find that the most “manly” of women, lesbians, think joining the army is great? Surely you had to realize that this was the situation into which you put yourself. And how can anyone be surprised to find that the more women are around the more feminine and girly the base becomes. Altogether, this is a terrible idea.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Pissedoffalese
  14. @Pissedoffalese

    Some dismiss personal accounts such as yours as “merely” anecdotal.

    But for my money, it’s the living truth. Some one lived this. And that’s more telling than any number of rhetorical essays.

    Like someone opened a window and let in a refreshing breeze.

    Thanks for that.

    • Agree: Delinquent Snail, Rurik
  15. Hibernian says:
    @Pissedoffalese

    “Some recruiter must have been BLIND.”

    More likely, just anxious to meet his quota.

  16. Jeff77450 says:

    Wow, I had no idea that things had gotten *this* bad. I served in the army for three years, ’76-’79, and then served twenty-one years in the army reserve and retired in 2000. Was mobilized for ODS for six months and served in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Turkey and Iraq. I didn’t do or see anything remarkable.

    I find it so sad (and alarming) how low the army, in particular, has sunk. If we ever have an “old style” war comparable to, say, Korea, especially one that combines both asymmetrical and maneuver warfare & set-piece battles, I predict that this new army is going to quickly fall apart, not being use to high-tempo operations where every “moving-part” is stressed to the max. May we never find out.

    • Replies: @Pissedoffalese
    , @Dr. X
  17. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @imbroglio

    maybe the military is consciously undergoing a shift from its mission as a fighting force, prepared to engage foreign wars in more or less conventional style, to becoming a domestic surveillance and control operation in terms of its lower-ranking, ground personnel in infantry and artillery.

    Interesting. Quite probably substantially truth. Institutions tend to change to reflect their actual (as compared to intended or defined) function.

    Makes for a hell of a good research project, huh?

  18. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Old fogey

    How could you be surprised to find that men view the women who join the armed services as more available than women who don’t? How could you be surprised to find that the most “manly” of women, lesbians, think joining the army is great? Surely you had to realize that this was the situation into which you put yourself. And how can anyone be surprised to find that the more women are around the more feminine and girly the base becomes.

    Ordinarily, I would not bother to point this out to anyone who identifies as “old fogey”, but, jeeze, man, how old were you before you understood all the things you point out? Shut the fuck up already.

  19. mz mercer should write about stupidity in the military – a much more prevalent situation and quite dangerous.

  20. @Realist

    I’ll cross you off my list of potential bath/bed mates, then.

  21. @TWS

    Here’s what they’re probably doing wrong.

    On this page it says, “Don’t use douches or feminine hygiene sprays.”

    https://www.womenshealth.gov/a-z-topics/urinary-tract-infections

    https://www.womenshealth.gov/a-z-topics/douching

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Alden
  22. @dearieme

    I’ve read that Europeans don’t think it’s unreasonable to bathe once a week. In the US they seem to take it for granted that everybody has a morning shower, and possibly another when they get home.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  23. Old fogey says:
    @Anonymous

    Ordinarily, I would not bother to reply to anyone who usees vulgar language on Mr. Unz’s web-site, but I am feeling kind today.

    Young ladies knew – by their 14th birthday if not earlier – when I was growing up that you should always be careful around men. We learned from our parents, from school, and from novels and films that men are much stronger than women are and that we needed to protect ourselves from unwanted advances by making sure that we behaved properly and that we set the rules. Putting oneself deliberately among masses of young men would not have been considered wise behavior.

  24. joefour says:
    @Anonymous

    Please take your own advice.

  25. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Old fogey

    Ordinarily, I would not bother to reply to anyone who usees vulgar language on Mr. Unz’s web-site, but I am feeling kind today.

    Ordinarily, I would not bother to reply to anyone who is quite obviously of antiquated and obsolete perception.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  26. Bel Riose says:
    @Pissedoffalese

    But the key question is…

    …exactly how many of those n-words and lesbians did you sleep with ??

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Pissedoffalese
  27. Neocon’s pushing for war with Russia, and transgender queer military. Better start digging that shelter folks.

  28. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Bel Riose

    But the key question is…

    …exactly how many of those n-words and lesbians did you sleep with ??

    Another key question might be “How far would the foot of a real man, an actual American male, go up the ass of Bel Riose?” Six inches? A foot?

    Good exercise for the man, but you sure as hell wouldn’t learn anything.

  29. Hibernian says:
    @Anonymous

    Human nature is never antiquated. I’m am old fogey myself, and a veteran. I’d go for the WAC/WAVE/Nurse model for women in the military service with only women drill sergeants training women recruits, and intensive oversight of those female drill sergeants. Some WACs and WAVES would be intel analysts, but they wouldn’t be truck drivers, much less artillerywomen 0r infantrywomen.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  30. @Jeff77450

    Jeff–

    Sometimes I conclude there IS a God. I originally joined up to go into the language program. I had an aptitude and interest in Arabic, but I got shot down because hubby was a foreign national, so no security clearance. Since I’d already signed on the dotted line (about 8 million times), I told them I didn’t want anything physical, but something employable afterward (seen too many vets from high school mopping floors at McDonalds), so I told them to put me in an office. 71L is about as low as you can go, Army status-wise. ‘Cept perhaps cook. Those ufckers couldn’t even read.

    I was still “ready reserve” when ODS went down, and I was shittin’ myself at the prospect of getting sucked back in. Had I been a linguist, oh, perish the thought!

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  31. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Hibernian

    Human nature is never antiquated. I’m am old fogey myself, and a veteran. I’d go for the WAC/WAVE/Nurse model for women in the military service with only women drill sergeants training women recruits, and intensive oversight of those female drill sergeants. Some WACs and WAVES would be intel analysts, but they wouldn’t be truck drivers, much less artillerywomen 0r infantrywomen.

    Well, there you have it: plain and practical common sense. I agree 100%.

    It is my opinion that the imposition of a responsibility for vigilant, possibly violent self-defense conditions on 18 year-old girls joining the military is more than just wrong. The suggestion that a 14-year old girl knows enough to survive in the modern military, or else she’s just a worthless whore, is the sort of close-minded horse manure that irritates me no end.

    Where is the condemnation of career noncoms and officers who prey on girls in the military?

    Where is the condemnation of rampant predatory homosexuality that preys on girls in the military?

    Where is the condemnation of living conditions that encourage predatory actions against girls in the military?

    Where is the condemnation of a military command structure, a military legal and criminal prosecution structure, that allows and promotes conditions under which predators of girls are ignored, excused, even actively encouraged?

    Where is a Congress and government that encourages girls to enlist, and conceals from them all knowledge of the violent predatory environment in which those girls will be forced to live?

    I want to know where is the moral outrage of disgusting, preachifying scumbags like Old Fogey and Bel Riose, who accuse the victims, not the perpetrators, per the usual for Bible-Thumping scum?

    Few things sicken me like sermons from hypocrites.

    • Agree: Alden, anarchyst
    • Replies: @Pissedoffalese
    , @Alden
  32. @Anonymous

    Yeah, thank you. I was 20 and totally clueless. I lived in Oregon, the White, liberal capitol of the world, and due to being lost for a year in another country, I didn’t graduate until I was 19, got married 2 months later, and had a baby 9 months later. I was useless as far as understanding anything.

    The only reason I’m only mildly subversive to this day instead of outright criminal, is I will NEVER let anyone have that kind of power over me again!

  33. @Bel Riose

    Bel Riose–

    Not one, not that it’s any of your damned business. I was never approached by lesbians, but I knew others who were. Saw it with my own eyes. Me, I was too run-of-the-mill. The stunners had it VERY bad, by all interested parties.

  34. @Old fogey

    Old Fogey–

    But of course I knew and was told. Knowing and experiencing are entirely different. Don’t you remember all the propaganda about integrated and professional armed services? Well, gee, I sure do, and you CERTAINLY don’t expect an office to be almost entirely staffed by predators ANYWHERE. Otherwise, I guess I should just don a ufcking BURKA and never venture outside, ‘cuz, you know, there’s MEN out there. Shudder.

  35. LauraMR says:
    @Pissedoffalese

    Enjoyed the reading. Thanks.

  36. @Anonymous

    You got it, Anony–

    I was fed shit about what service would entail–it most certainly did NOT. I knew girls who were sent back through Basic THREE times, just so their drill sgts. could continue to rape them. This isn’t what I signed up for. I signed with the INTENTION of an OFFICE job–either Intellingence (translating) or TYPING. Not Infantry or firefighting, etc. Basically, the modern version of WACS or WAVES. I couldn’t shoot or run or do push-ups, but, man, I could type like the wind. I don’t know any other occupation where it’s perfectly acceptable to sexually assault the office workers, no matter HOW many males workd in that OFFICE.

    And they mostly weren’t YOUNG men who bothered me. How old do you gotta be to be a 1st sgt or a sgt major? An E-5 or E-6? These ain’t hormone-boiled 18-year-olds. Shit, these guys fought in VIETNAM and were still there in 1985. They weren’t YOUNG MEN, they were grizzled old perverts for the most part, and the whispering among the girl-grapevine told us who to beware of, tho’ with 1st sgt, he made his move on me the SECOND DAY I was there, so no girly grapevine for me, just a real rude wake-up call.

  37. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Pissedoffalese

    I was fed shit about what service would entail–it most certainly did NOT.

    I did one enlistment in the Navy during Vietnam. Came to an understanding of what was out and about within six months, then rode it out. None of it was “fun”; none of it was educational; none of it counted toward a career; and chasing subs in the north Atlantic sucked. Every facet of the military that I had occasion to observe was fucked up, bottom to top, top to bottom.

    • Replies: @Pissedoffalese
  38. Oh, and somehow, the ugly gals just washed out, didn’t have to re-do Basic. I agree that women should do women’s jobs–that’s what I signed up for. Not infantry, FFS, not parachuting down into enemy territory, but just to make the chutes (yeah, that’s an actual job), you gotta jump out the airplane. No thanks. Wonder how many men were at the chute factory or the packing factory. I don’t remember if the job was MAKING them or PACKING them or BOTH, (I looked at a lot of options after the language thing fell off the cliff) but the requirement involved jumping out of airplanes. Just think, I coulda qualified as AIRBORNE just for being able to correctly pack a chute. That’s awful.

    So, by signing up for an office job, I signed up for sexual assault. Wow. Amazing what people come up with, innit? So I musta ufcked iggners and lesbians. Astounding logic. Lucky for me, I was only serially, repeatedly GROPED and propositioned by people in the highest authority along with the rest of the lower-caste riff-raff. I know bikers with better manners.

    And as for Old Fogey, where the ufck do you think vulgarities became a large part of my vocabulary?

    In Basic, we had to sit through HOURS of shite about sexual harassment and assault, and how we should always report it. Guess what happened to those who did? Article 15 ring any bells? Court Martial? Run back through Basic THREE UFCKING TIMES? Oh, yeah. By the time I got outta Basic, I knew the score. Now the VA reps are trying to get me on disability because of it. Yeah. No. I’m not disabled ‘cuz someone groped me 30 years ago, but I DO hate iggners to this day, which now, apparently is a mental disorder, and I’m not real particular about lesbians, either–another mental issue.

    I remain a conservative communist. I think we should eat the rich–they’re non-GMO. Taste like chicken.

    For those who have found my posts helpful and enlightening, thank you.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  39. @Anonymous

    Anony–

    I have 2 biker friends–both Vietnam vets.

    One is so ufcked up he’s on like 27 different kinds of medications–his doctor is a TOTAL quack, not shitting you–magic water, his diabetes disappears in one day, just looney tunes, but the poor bastard believes the ufcking doctor. Were I suicidally bent, I’da shot the bastard, and my friend, the biker, is credulous and blind–he thinks this asshole is BENEFITING him.

    My IDEA was that after service I could translate for the UN, you know, do something respectable, but they don’t give you the truth when they sign you up; thus I ended up a typist. I’m glad for that now–otherwise I’d have ended up an accomplice to torture or dead on the sands or so morally bankrupt I’da killed myself or been assisted off this mortal coil by someone who didn’t want the world to hear my story.

    Stranger things have happened.

    Truthfully, Anony, what’s YOUR response when idiots “thank you for your service?” I flew a typewriter is what I tell them, and the shit I typed…… Fort Knox, KY. What an idiot place to serve–Sent me out with a maglite and a ufcking BROOM HANDLE to protect the gold vault. Had a rifle, too–M-16. No bullets. Not even on payday. When they were like, handing out cash. Trust me, ain’t NO gold at Ft. Knox. At one point I rigged up their typewriter with a fucking paper clip and a rubber band. Next time it broke, I brought in my own portable Brother typewriter.
    Compensation? Snort.

    But hey, after all was said and done, I got a nice state gvt job as a typist and was able to buy a house with a VA loan. Still, I don’t recommend it, even, especially, to girls. When I went in, certain occupations were barred for females–anything involving combat. Kinda why I joined. Now they are NOT.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Alden
  40. @Old fogey

    Hey, Old Fogey–

    How many MEN do you know who signed up to the Army to be TYPISTS? Is that not a “womanly” enough job for you? Should the punishment be RAPE? You need to go join ISIS.

    I DID sign up for a womanly job (WAC/WAV) 71L (clerk/typist).

    Besides, there are umteen brothels outside each military base, so sex is available. Besides, just give an iggner a candy bar or $5 on an EBT card–she’ll dance right into your bed. Seen it happen, so ufck you.

  41. @Pissedoffalese

    “And they mostly weren’t YOUNG men who bothered me. How old do you gotta be to be a 1st sgt or a sgt major? An E-5 or E-6?”

    In retrospect, it’s amazing how young the really are. I remember being “the old man” at 27. I remember guys who were only 35 to 40 looking like they were fossils.

    If I hadn’t seen some of what pissedoffalese is complaining about, it would seem too far-fetched to be true, but I saw quite a bit of it. Probably should have turned me commie too.

    BTW, I was in the war before Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, and we had a male admin type who everyone knew was as queer as a three dollar bill, but he was damn good at what he did, was generally likeable and personable, and kept his personal shizzle to himself, so even though it was not yet official policy, nobody asked and nobody told. Others who didn’t display those characteristics were politely shown the door.

  42. @Grace Jones

    No “great attention to personal hygiene.”

    How do you smell?

    “I’ve been single and solitary much of my life.”

    If you smell bad people will avoid you.
    And you will be “single and solitary” for the rest of your life.

    • Replies: @Grace Jones
  43. Alden says:
    @Grace Jones

    You are not a soldier in an austere environment. The medical journals and gynecologists were not writing about you. They were writing about military women in austere environments. I can think of various reasons why military women living in tents and in combat areas would get UTIs.

    FYI Illana Mercer, men’s urinary tract health is treated by urologists. Women’s urinary tract health is treated by gynecologists.

    My impression of the military is that it is just another government affirmative action welfare and jobs program for blacks and other minorities, not much different from the Post Office, social security, court clerks, and DMV.

  44. Alden says:
    @Pissedoffalese

    Being a White woman, I too hate, loathe and detest N word men because of the incessant sexual harassment. The Muslims claim that the only reason we have women in our military is to service the men. Who knows, maybe the whole feminist women in the military thing was actually a deep, deep conspiracy by the men to have available women around without having to wait for the weekend and pay for hookers.

  45. Logan says:

    “Likewise did the late Lieutenant General Robert W. Cone, commander of III Corps at Fort Hood, brag about the “no-guns” policies on that base. These left Hasan’s victims helpless: “As a matter of practice, we don’t carry weapons here, this is our home.” A funeral home for some!”

    The policy of soldiers not carrying weapons on base except when their duty requires it goes way, way back. Centuries. It’s not a recent PC policy.

    It goes back all the way to when soldiers and sailors were recruited from the dregs of society and the officers were aristocrats. Officers kept weapons locked up under their control except when the enemy was nearby, on the possibly justified assumption that the rank and file were prone to mutiny. One of the main markers of officer vs. ranker status was that an officer went armed at all times.

    Whether this policy continues to be appropriate is of course open to question.

    • Replies: @Dr. X
  46. Alden says:
    @Grace Jones

    One of the reasons women get UTIs and men get various kinds of crotch rot and everybody gets athletes foot and toenail fungus and skin infections and other nasty things in austere environments while living in combat zones is the lack of bathing facilities and clean clothes.

    Life is a combat zone is totally different from your UTI free civilian life.

    May I ask, why did your insert your personal urinary tract and gynecology history into this thread?

    Pissedoffalese wrote comments about her personal experiences as a young women in the military. They were very germane to the article. I believe they are important. It would be great if more high school girls read about her experiences before deciding to join the military.

    But your comments about your thoughts on douching and bathing and your very personal discussion of your uribary tract are just bizarre. What makes you think anyone wants to read about your urinary tract.?

    • Replies: @Grace Jones
  47. Logan says:
    @dearieme

    I believe the Romans had the idea that training either turned you into a functional Roman soldier or killed you. Worked pretty well for quite a few centuries.

  48. Alden says:
    @Old fogey

    I’m 75 and neither my parents nor any teachers or school or movies or novels ever warned me about men when I was young.

    My college was about 65 percent men as many colleges were back in the olden days. So it wasn’t till I was 18 that I learned about men.

    Things have changed in the last 60 years. Girls are encouraged to join the military these days. There is also the bad job market and the affirmative action discrimination against Whited.

    This isn’t 1955 when any girl who could type 40 words a minute could get a decent job right out of high school. It’s 2917 when every employer in the country is under federal orders not to hire Whites.

    Did you know the draft was ended in the early 1970s? It’s been a volunteer army for 45 years now. The army recruits by claiming all sorts of job training and most most important money for college tuition. Those things are their main recruiting tool.

    Try and find a time machine that will fast forward you from 196o to 2017.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    , @Pissedoffalese
  49. Alden says:
    @Grace Jones

    I guess that’s your cause, but what makes you think the rest of us want to read about it. its beyond vulgar.

    • Replies: @Grace Jones
  50. jay says:

    Militaries used to be all-male none of the bullshit complications that we have now.

  51. Alden says:
    @Old fogey

    Did your mother chaperone you when you had gentlemen callers in the parlor? You must have looked lovely in your sweeping dresses with trains and leg of mutton sleeves and pompadour hair style. Did your and your future husband follow the etiquette of 1880 and not even kiss till you were formally engaged?

  52. Alden says:
    @Anonymous

    Old Fogey is the type of person who blames women who are raped because
    ” they shouldn’t work a night shift, or they should know not to take buses, or they should take a self defense class and be able to fight off 3 N word rapists with their keys “

    • Replies: @Stonehands
  53. @Priss Factor

    Graham is definitely a comfort woman for the IDF.

  54. Che Guava says:

    Well, I skimmed through other comments, nothing I really want to replying to. Although I am also a very fast typist, so am understanding the point of that one. Already computer and infant-’net literate at the time, I learnt to touch-type the old-fashioned way, drills and hammering the keys on a mechanical model that had almost 40 degree slope.

    Still have a mechanical portable, it needs repairs, but still fun for typing.

    Good article Ilana! Serious.

    The comments abt. Fort Hood and Major Hassan, or whatever the name, very apt.

    I think the longest non-joke extension of LGBT was LBGTQIAQ, that was so ridiculous that they shortened it back.

    The vanishiningly tiny minority of people who are biologically intersex, the crew who claim to be asexual (I am suspecting most to be fervent masturbators, female or male) did not like to be included.

    • LOL: Hibernian
  55. @Alden

    FYI Illana Mercer, men’s urinary tract health is treated by urologists. Women’s urinary tract health is treated by gynecologists.

    Not true. Urologists deal with the urinary tract in both males and females. They do have the male reproductive tract added on.

    • Replies: @Alden
  56. Bel Riose says:
    @Pissedoffalese

    “I knew girls who were sent back through Basic THREE times, just so their drill sgts. could continue to rape them. ”

    I don’t believe this for a minute.

    In fact, that statement sounds like exactly the sort of extreme BS hard-core feminists make up to justify how bad “Rape Culture” is within the military.

    Your endless posting of your “woe is me” travails is, however, perfectly consistent with a narcissistic female.

    Sorry dear — I’m not buying your military sexual assault fantasies. Go peddle your tale(s) of woe elsewhere, and take your racism with you.

    And quit hijacking this blog.

  57. @dearieme

    I’ve long assumed that the US’s slightly shorter life expectancy compared to other advanced countries was due to an excess of dentistry.

    I guess gumming gruel into your old age gives a person something to live for. For much of human history lack of dentistry caused quite a few deaths. If you can’t chew your food, you starve to death.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Che Guava
  58. 1. LOVE pissedoffalese, sorry for your service… 8^)
    2. hate old fogey, the get-off-my-lawn stuff is old, but i understand, i’m old, too… but beyond that, you’re just a whiny bitch, aren’t you ? ? ? (‘vulgar’ shit puts you off ? you pussy, GTFOH)
    3. oddly enough, don’t want to ‘destroy’, ‘eliminate’, or ‘annihilate’ old fogey, which seems to be the only stance left these days: either my way, or you DIE, DIE, DIE ! ! ! shit, i can’t stand EITHER the libtards or the conservatards; BOTH stupidly want to eliminate the other, instead of the live-and-let-liveism i thought we were aspiring to…
    ’cause -you see- i actually believe in freedom, which means you (and i) are free to make stupid decisions, bad choices, wrong assumptions, and horrible acts…
    ’cause i believe in freedom…
    of course, that same belief in freedom means i can (rightly or wrongly) call you out for your ‘stupid’ choices…
    ’cause i believe in freedom…
    .
    oh, and another reason woman serving in the military have such high rates of bladder infections, etc, is not ’cause they are such delicate, hothouse flowers, but it is because they are AFRAID to go out after dark to the latrines because THEIR ‘OWN’ (sic)k) military ‘family’ is RAPING THEM… it ain’t achmed and mohammed who are defiling ‘our’ wimmenfolk, IT IS THEIR OWN AMERIKAN “BUDDIES”, their own comrades in arms who they have sworn to defend…
    yeah, thanks for your service, rapist…

    • Replies: @Pissedoffalese
  59. Joe Hide says:

    Wow! …… Where else do You find this kind of honesty except unz.com?

  60. Dr. X says:
    @Jeff77450

    If we ever have an “old style” war comparable to, say, Korea, especially one that combines both asymmetrical and maneuver warfare & set-piece battles, I predict that this new army is going to quickly fall apart

    We’ll never have that kind of war again.

    “Old-style” wars require conscription, and that’s not going to happen. Old-style wars also claim large numbers of casualties, even in victory, and the public won’t tolerate that any more — not to mention that a stalemated “old-style war” if fought today would probably be resolved by nuclear weapons.

    Consequently, the U.S. military has become, for practical purposes, an imperial mercenary corps dedicated to managing global insurgencies, not winning set-piece battles against enemy divisions. That’s why we haven’t actually “won” any wars since WWII (ODS being an exception, but when you think about it that was really one battle in 20+ years 0f military activity in Iraq which continues to this day).

    Of course, there remain excellently-trained and battle ready U.S. units that are as good or better than any in the world, but they represent the “tip-of-the-spear” Army, not the Army-at-large.

    • Replies: @The Scalpel
  61. Dr. X says:
    @Logan

    The policy of soldiers not carrying weapons on base except when their duty requires it goes way, way back. Centuries. It’s not a recent PC policy.

    It goes back all the way to when soldiers and sailors were recruited from the dregs of society and the officers were aristocrats. Officers kept weapons locked up under their control except when the enemy was nearby, on the possibly justified assumption that the rank and file were prone to mutiny. One of the main markers of officer vs. ranker status was that an officer went armed at all times.

    Correct. The “recent PC policy” is the disarming of officers on base, which is a Clinton administration policy from the 1990s.

    • Replies: @Logan
  62. yeah says:

    Hey, wait a minute here. Isn’t the article and a number of posts mixing up “women in the military” with letting in LGBTQ folks into military? Women in the military is a topic by itself, or perhaps several topics, the complexities are beyond me and my experience, so I pass without comment.

    As to LGBTQ people in the military, think of the amazing opportunities here. A crack regiment of LGBTQ fanatics armed with the latest dildos and other toys. Will most certainly cause enemy forces to drop dead with amazement. Then think of transgendered troops in full make-up (mascara, falsies and all) charging at enemy troops. The enemy flees in horror, battle over. Or imagine full blown homos charging at the enemy. Mortally scared of being buggered, the enemy simply flees.

    Then think of benefits to the economy. The demand for special supplies, recreational equipment, expensive medications and surgery will boost the healthcare and defense supply sectors. As it all would be financed out of taxpayers’ pockets it wouldn’t worry any politician, so no fear of any political discord. The legal services sector will blossom as complex issues of a sort never before faced by humans and armies arise. People will be forced to think – deeply -, so the national IQ may also get a boost.

    All in all, a win-win. Lets us go for it.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Pissedoffalese
  63. Logan says:
    @Dr. X

    I did not know that. Thanks for the information. Do you have a reference on when the policy went into effect and what the previous policy was?

  64. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    The next battle that the US Army is getting its ass kicked, the LGBTQ troopers can scare off the enemy by raising their rainbow flag and threatening to sue the other side if they don’t respect their ‘safe space!’

    • Replies: @Alden
  65. Logan says:
    @Pissedoffalese

    You might find this essay interesting. By a field rank officer who became an SF author after retiring from the Army.

    http://www.baen.com/amazonsrightbreast

    I’ve read most of your comments on this thread and I am sure sorry you went through what you did. Wouldn’t be me, nor would it have happened with me around. Not without somebody getting hurt pretty bad.

    But I think you’re leaving out the corrolary, which is the female troops willing to use their sexuality to get special privileges. Not nearly as bad as superiors using their authority for rape or semi-rape, but pretty destructive to unit cohesion or morale.

    Anyway, would be very interested in your opinion of what Kratman has to say. He is, BTW, a very interesting writer. Not really a very good writer as such, but one with interesting ideas.

    • Replies: @Pissedoffalese
  66. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “One of the projects mesmerizing the brass throughout the nineties was the integration of women. …”

    We know who was POTUS during the nineties. And it wouldn’t surprise if all this social engineering had Madame’s fingerprints all over it.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Simply Simon
  67. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Pissedoffalese

    Truthfully, Anony, what’s YOUR response when idiots “thank you for your service?”

    I flinch, sometimes visibly. Funny thing, I just back back from the VA hospital around noon, and there was some serious service-thanking going on today. Once getting to the elevator, twice in the lab, and once headed back to the elevator. Sets my teeth on edge. Still beats having to pay Medicare(B) and supplemental plans. Looks like the health-care situation is primed to implode soon. I wonder how rich medical services and pharmaceutical companies will get this time around? [sardonic laugh].

    • Replies: @Pissedoffalese
  68. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Bel Riose

    And quit hijacking this blog.

    Quit being a douchebag.

    • Replies: @Bel Riose
  69. Alden says:
    @Chris Mallory

    Thanks for the info. I never heard of a woman going to a urologist for a UTI. Live and learn.

    • Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian
  70. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Chris Mallory

    I guess gumming gruel into your old age gives a person something to live for. For much of human history lack of dentistry caused quite a few deaths. If you can’t chew your food, you starve to death.

    Not until sugar, sir. Damn few deaths from dental complications until sugar in diets.

    I stumbled across an article in some Primatology mag recently, showing impacted wisdom teeth in Cro-Magnons, I’ve been meaning to find some data on the same phenomenon in Neandertals. Just curious as to non-evolutionary mutations in homo line.

  71. Alden says:
    @Pissedoffalese

    I’ve seen the documentary that claims there is no gold in Fort Knox. Interesting that you think there is no gold in Fort Knox.
    Well, money is what ever the govt says it is.

  72. peterAUS says:
    @Bel Riose

    Incoming………

    Brace yourself.

  73. shrub says:

    How many people here remember the Karen Kwiatkowski? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Kwiatkowski). She was a young Lt. Colonel in the Air Force on the fast track to an early general -ship whose career was aborted when she voiced criticism about the takeover of military intelligence by Neo-con (ie. Israeli) sympathizers way back in 2003. Kwiatkowski didn’t go down without a fight and wrote some very compelling articles about what had happened.

    But she was not the only one purged. Once the Neo-cons had started to assert their control in the Pentagon under Bush the Junior, patriots there began to be purged in greater and greater numbers.. Criticism of Israel (or the latest PC social fad such as gays) was increasingly seen as career ending. The only people who started to be promoted to the upper ranks in the military were those who were not just outwardly neutral about Israel but those who voiced open admiration for it..

    After 2003, Israel and its allies in the USA started to increase this control by getting control of the vetting process for upper level military promotions. This was done by “friends” surreptitiously getting the names of those people up for promotions beforehand and then giving these names to the Israelis to be screened. The Israelis were very thorough in this process, going so far as using their agents or their sayanim to covertly interview that person’s friends and neighbors to ascertain the person’s actual “reliability.” The names of those considered “unreliable” or “too conservative” (or probably not potentially backmail-able enough) were eliminated by contacting obliging politicians or bureaucrats who would then blacklist them outright or stall the recommendation for promotion or make it disappear.

    But wasn’t just the foes of Israel that started to suffer. With these blacklistings came the increasing harassment of traditionist christian military leaders as well , using very well funded legal teams led by people like Mikey Weinstein (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_L._Weinstein) Weinstein, by the way, was previously best known as one of the people who, while legal counsel in the Reagan White House, tried to cover up Israel’s role in the Iran Contra scandal and let President Reagan take entire blame for it.

    It has been fourteen years since this military vetting process began in earnest. This means that virtually every now-serving general or admiral either went through this vetting procedure to achieve their present rank or were promoted (in addition) by affirmative action. As a result our military leadership is now largely made up of mere sycophants. Scary indeed! If they were to stage a successful military coup Bibi Netanyahu would probably end up as our new commander in chief. :(

    A sidenote: Interestingly, new Arkansas US Senator Tom Cotton was apparently discovered by The Lobby while he was in the military in Iraq after he wrote a letter to the NY Times in which he criticized journalists’ leaks about terrorist funding. The Israelis apparently loved his letter. He was AIPAC’s very favorite candidate in the last election (to the tune of a $900,000 donation from it to him.) and is now on the Senate fast rack. Can we say President Cotton!

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @Alden
  74. Prusmc says:
    @The Alarmist

    A two part posting about a military coup against DJT is published on Townhall. a Kurt Schliecker is author. The fictional military leader is called Gen Leonard Smith,Ret. I don’t know whether Ret. Generals Casey or Martin Dempsey best fit the picture as a real-life counterpart? Probably plenty of contenders to pick from and not all retired.

  75. @Grace Jones

    “women’s urinary tracts suffer in ‘austere environments.’”

    Oh, really? Mine hasn’t. And it’s not because of great attention to personal hygiene. I’ve been single and solitary much of my life, and appreciative of the opportunity to save on clothing, hot water and laundry costs. Maybe those others are bathing too much, out of a false belief that it’s necessary for their health.

    Good for you, but it’s the statistics, especially the average, that matter when trying to run a large operation.

    • Replies: @Grace Jones
  76. Up until recently I was a teacher at a public high school. A couple years ago I had a delightful young female student. She graduated that year. I asked her what her plans were and she told me she was joining the army. I was shocked, this little gal was barely over 5′ tall and could not have weighed 100lbs, soaking wet. Her pack and gear would gave weighed more than she did.

    • Replies: @Alden
  77. @dearieme

    I dare say the Romans took a similar view.

    True during the Republic, not so much after the Empire took root. Which is probably pertinent to the discussion.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  78. Chudail says:

    ILANA MERCER IS A FRAUD. Here are her comments on jews and neoconservatism:
    Responding to paleoconservative academic and writer Kevin B. MacDonald, who argued that Jewish leaders in movements such as neoconservatism promote exclusively Jewish interests including mass immigration into the U.S. from the Third World,[41] Mercer noted that “Jewish activism, if anything, is self-defeating as a group strategy”.[42] She has argued that while many Jewish organizations promote liberal causes such as multiculturalism, a contradiction exists between the “leftist ideology so many Jews embrace, with its indifference to assimilation and its extreme tolerance for alternative lifestyles, and the survival of the Jewish religion and people”,[42] also referring to MacDonald’s work on Jews as “The MacDonald Fe-Fi-Fo-Fum Science” of Jews.[42]

    Mercer responded to Pat Buchanan’s argument that the push to invade Iraq in 2003 came from a Jewish neoconservative “cabal” advising George W. Bush and acting in the best interests of Israel, rather than the U.S.,[43] by noting that in fingering Jewish neocons specifically, Buchanan was “seeing causal connections where none exist” while failing to note the influence upon Bush by inner-circle gentile neocons such as Condoleezza Rice and William Bennett.[44] In addition, she noted that Bush’s own vision for U.S. intervention in the Middle East was in place before the September 11 attacks. She also argued that many Jews strongly opposed the Iraq War from the outset, including George Soros, Robert Reich, and Michigan senator Carl Levin,[44] and she attributed Jewish prominence in both pro- and anti-war circles to the tendency of Jewish individuals to rise to the top in many fields of endeavor.

    • Replies: @shrub
    , @Alden
  79. @Bel Riose

    Apparently the agree button doesn’t work along with edit and cancel…

    What a farrago of balderdash from an admitted lifetime civil servant (parasite) complaining about other degenerates in a military that’s been marginalized by communists.

  80. @The Alarmist

    Hasan, a former Major, although I’m surprised the Powers did not allow him to keep his rank and pay, is still around since that terrible day in 2009 when he killed 13 GIs and wounded thirty others. Justice has not been served and it looks likely it he will never be executed for his criminal, terrorist acts.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  81. peterAUS says:
    @shrub

    Be that as it may, an interesting question could be:
    Would the middle layer of command and control obey/execute orders coming from that “top brass”?

    Say, a serious dissent in one of “red states”, police/FBI/”civilians” can’t handle.

    Would, say, a mechanized battalion C.O. (lieutenant-colonel) execute the order to “re-establish government control” on that particular little town?

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  82. @Simply Simon

    I would have held Hasan to a the same standard his contemporaries use with our guys and had his head slowly sawed off with a somewhat dull knife.

  83. @another fred

    That means we can start crucifying the enemy, right?

  84. @Pissedoffalese

    I knew girls who were sent back through Basic THREE times, just so their drill sgts. could continue to rape them.

    Just three times? Come on–you can do better than that–no less than 5-6 I’d say. In related news, just returned from unicorn farm.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Hibernian
  85. @Pissedoffalese

    You sound like a fruitless, grizzled feminist.

    Oh well, enjoy your 10% military discount when you buy all that catfood!!!

    P.S.
    Thank- you for your service…to the U.N.

  86. Alden says:
    @Philip Nolan

    A lot of the smaller women and men as well are going to end up with early arthritis and orthopedic problems. I understand that the combat back pack and weapons weight about 85 pounds, too much for anyone to carry around without damaging them selves.

  87. Bel Riose says:
    @Anonymous

    I *have* to continue being a douchebag…

    …for Grace Jones’s sake, if nothing else.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  88. @anonymous

    That same POTUs was also Commander-in-Chief. I always thought it was a classic oxymoron when draft dodger was combined with C-in-C. BTW, I never could understand why the voters elected men like Clinton and Obama who had zip military experience. Seems the public forgot about leaders like George Washington and Eisenhower.

  89. @Alden

    Yes, Alden, this is true. I see women as patients at my urologist’s practice, although I don’t ask them what they are there for, of course. I would assume that some do present with UTIs, incidentally, nothing to be trifled with, as untreated they can lead to septicimia. That can be fatal.

    • Replies: @pepperinmono
  90. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Bel Riose

    I *have* to continue being a douchebag…

    Yeah, that would be clever of you in, say, a high school environment.

    Certainly, I don’t really care. I am aware that assholes abound. Always have. So, I remark infrequently. The ethical failure is yours, not mine.

  91. @Simply Simon

    Well, Billy Bob got the plurality, and won the Electoral College against Bush pere, probably because some of us (such as myself) voted for Mr. Perot, who didn’t garner any EC votes because he didn’t carry any states. Didn’t trust Clinton, that saxophone honking underwear flaunting POS, but I was not too fond of continuing Deep State Bush’s tenure in office. Perot was sounding the alarm on “trade” deals such as the soon to be passed NAFTA (thanks, Bill), and similarly articulating “America First” policies well before the guy who now drills farts into the chair in the Oval Office did. Oh, well.

  92. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    Just three times? Come on–you can do better than that–no less than 5-6 I’d say. In related news, just returned from unicorn farm.

    I’ve heard accounts that tend to confirm that, infrequently, yes, girls are held back in basic training until they provide the sexual relief the sergeants require.

    I’m sure you know better. And, I’m sure that the infrequency of it is something you can point to with justifiable pride.

  93. themann says:

    Let me begin by stating, I was in the US military, my father was career military, his father was career military, his Grandfather fought at Gettysburg…get the idea. ok so:

    Military organizations do three things, and they do them in this order:

    1. They loot.
    2. They rape.
    and
    3. They kill.

    Primarily civilians, over and over and over.

    Duty, Honor, patriotism, Bullshit!

    Let filth serve filth, and the judgement of God be served upon them.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  94. @Alden

    Maybe old fogey is the type of person who blames western women for abandoning their instincts. Women should develope their aptitudes in accordance with their own nature, without trying to imitate the men.

    Society itself originated in woman, in the feelings that bound together the mother and her young.

    The home is the very foundation of any society in a state of health, and here woman is the supreme influence.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Alden
    , @Alden
  95. Alden says:
    @shrub

    I read Kiatkowski’s book. It was going on long before she discovered it. There are Israeli army liaisons roaming all over the pentagon with higher security clearances than many American military working in the pentagon.

    We really are a colony of Israel
    aren’t we?

  96. Alden says:
    @Stonehands

    Old fogey claimed that when she was young all girls were told by the age of 14 to be wary of men and their sexual advances. I’m probably around old fogey’s age and women my age were not warned about predatory men at age 14.

    Old fogey did not write about women’s traditional sphere and the home is the basis of society etc . Old Fogey just wrote that girls going into the military at 18 should be aware that military men are basically sexual predators who use their higher rank to extort sex and harass the girls.

    Pissedoffalese was married and had her first child while in the military. I gather she was married at 19 or 20 which is very, very traditional. She had her baby (conceived in holy matrimony) 11 months after she got married. So she fulfilled all the traditional Old Fogey fuddy conservatives concept of what women should do, get married and have children at a young age and working at a traditional women’s job, typist.

    I was married at a young age and had 4 children right away. I wore a wedding ring. I was extremely stand offish and rather rude to the men with whom I worked. I never smiled and never looked at a man directly.

    But I still was constantly subject to unwanted sexual approaches at work and when I was out and about alone or with other women.

    PS I was a probation officer and dressed like one, no “slutty” clothes and I never wore much make up.
    I wore my wedding ring and even when I had all the kids with me the harassment, unwanted advances whatever you want to call them were constant.

    So wedding rings, a husband and children didn’t protect either me or Pissedoffalese.

    So what more do you and old fogey want women to do to avoid unwanted advances? Never leave the house even to wash the car or work in the garden or supervise the kids playing?

    • Replies: @Bel Riose
    , @Stonehands
  97. shrub says:
    @Chudail

    An interesting thing occurred ten or fifteen years ago that involved Mercer. Someone on a political site wrote some derogatory comments about Israel under one of Mercer’s articles. Mercer then went absolutely bat shi-t crazy and started calling the other person very derogatory names in addition to him merely being an anti-Semite. She continued her rant and then, after being successfully baited by the original comment writer she became wilder still, totally out of control.

    She then wrote some very nasty comments about Christians that totally blew her cover as any sort of conservative or constitutionalist. She proved to be nothing more than a very racist Israeli agent.

    Her response was so over the top, vicious, racist, and revealing that she quickly and totally lost all credibility. After that she simply vanished, only to appear here at UNZ once people had apparently forgotten about her previous history.

    From the wWikipedia article about Mercer:
    ” Justin Raimondo, editorial director of Antiwar.com, responded saying it is not Israel, but its “American amen corner, typified by La Mercer”, whom libertarians despise, also characterizing Mercer as “an intellectual street-walker”.[34]

    • Replies: @Chudail
  98. Alden says:
    @Stonehands

    What are you trying to say? The traditional idea of women as homemakers and mothers is fine.

    But what does that have to do with continual sexual harassment of a very young wife and mother by middle aged creeps while working in an office. She was lucky she worked in an office instead of a warehouse or mechanic shop where she could have been raped.

    Old fogey reminds me of the girl friends mammas grandmas and aunts of all those N word thugs and rapist I sent off to prison when I was a probation officer.

    The black preachers and female relatives would descend on my office begging for leniency. ” that old White lady should know better than to carry a purse”. “. Victim shouldn’t park his car on the street but rent a separate garage”
    ” She took the bus, what did she expect”
    ” he shouldn’t be walking alone at night”

    There was one group of nasty thugs from the Scott projects who ambushed nurses and other woman who worked at one of the hospitals. When they stopped for the red lights the thugs would just surround the car, break the windows and drag her off to apartments in the projects for a couple hours gang rape.

    And do you know what the preachers and girl friends and relatives would use to excuse the rape?
    “Why does she work at night. If she worked days she would get off work at 5 pm”

    Of course I have translated their garbled grunting into standard English.

    But that’s exactly how and old fogey and Bel Riose think. Your off topic flight from one woman’s 3 years of harassment to some conservative Christian thoughts on wives and mothers and the home as the basis of society is exactly the same way the blacks would fly off topic to find some excuse for beating a man into a coma to get his wallet.

    Early marriage children and a wedding ring didn’t protect me from a lifetime of unwanted advances.

    People like you and old fogey is why I am a White Nationalist but absolutely not a conservative. It seems to me conservatives are either 90 year old male virgins or women who are so ugly even the most sex starved N word would never go near them.

    Stick to what you know. Sex harassment is obviously something about which you know nothing.

  99. Bel Riose says:
    @Alden

    Allow me to be totally, completely, and perhaps brutally frank.

    Let’s assume for the moment that “Pissedoffalese’s” tales of fancy are completely true. Not that I think they *are* true, of course…they are naught more than feminist fantasy…but let’s just assume for the moment that all her stories are completely accurate.

    Let’s also assume that your stories are completely accurate.

    Ready?

    Here goes:

    Even if her and your tales of woe and harassment and groping and unwanted advances and whatnot are completely, totally, 100% true…

    ….I don’t care one bit !

    The events that you complain about don’t elicit the slightest bit of sympathy, pity, or outrage from me.

    How’s that !

    Amazing, I know…probably makes me a callous bastard — but hey, something gotta balance out the Feminist Outrage…yin and yang and the balance of good and evil the universe and all that sorta stuff, right?

    As our local idiot Corvinus might say:

    “Thank you for your opinion on these matters, ladies!”

  100. Alden says:
    @Chudail

    I think her father was one of the Jewish immigrants to S Africa who belonged to the ANC and repaid the White S Africans who took them in by overthrowing their government.

  101. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Bel Riose

    I know…probably makes me a callous bastard — but hey, something gotta balance out the Feminist Outrage

    Oh, yeah. Pure class. As expected.

    Scumbag.

    • Replies: @Bel Riose
  102. @Alden

    “I was married at a young age and had 4 children right away. I wore a wedding ring. I was extremely stand offish and rather rude to the men with whom I worked.”

    If you had 4 children right away wouldn’t your work consist of attending to their rearing and education?

    How could you possibly defend yourself as a probation officer when dealing with criminals, if you couldn’t defend yourself from the agressive sexual hijinks that take place everywhere in the highly charged western environment, especially among young people. I am not buying these assertions that it’s only superiors, and old heads who are lecherous.

    I don’t know what type of White Nationalism you’ve been imbibing, are you trying to tell me that you didn’t steal that position as probation officer from a White Man with a family?You actually competed for the job against a squared- away man; you being a hand- wringing fussy old woman? How many times did a male coworker have to come to your rescue
    during violent reactions of the criminals that you supervised?

    PS…. As WN you know that your generation silent/boomer have stuck the rest of us with
    a shit sandwich…we don’t mind carrying you- but ya gotta stop draggin your feet…

    • Replies: @Alden
  103. Bel Riose says:
    @Anonymous

    Come on! You can do better than that. “Scumbag?” That doesn’t even make the needle move. You’re a strong empowered woman — and clearly a feminist to boot — so I’ll be chivalrous, and give you another at-bat.

    Try again, please.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Alden
  104. @Alias Anonymous

    First a nosy question for you: How many showers do you feel you need to take per day?

    Some of us just don’t stink as much as others. It has not dissuaded occasional attention that I just didn’t want. If I don’t see someone I want, then single and solitary is better anyway.

    • Replies: @Alden
  105. Hibernian says:
    @Pissedoffalese

    ” …but I got shot down because hubby was a foreign national, so no security clearance.”

    Usually that depends on what country the spouse, parent, relative, etc., is a national of.

    “Since I’d already signed on the dotted line (about 8 million times)…”

    Since the end of the draft no one is legally committed until they raise their right hand and take the enlistment oath.

    Also the typing speed of a 71L won’t go far in the business world.

    I joined up (just short of the maximum enlistment age) about 3 years after you did.

    • Replies: @Pissedoffalese
  106. @Alden

    ” I can think of various reasons why military women living in tents and in combat areas would get UTIs.”

    So enlighten us already. My hunter-gatherer ancestors lived in tents and later, tenements and other places that didn’t have flush toilets and running water until recently.

    • Replies: @Alden
  107. Hibernian says:
    @Pissedoffalese

    Did it ever occur to you that parachute riggers jump using a chute they packed themselves to make sure the chutes are packed carefully? Not hard to figure out.

    • Replies: @Pissedoffalese
  108. @Alden

    I disagreed with the point made in the article that women have a special susceptibility to UTIs. I did not “insert” it, it was already there. You apparently don’t realize that until recently, very few had those bathing facilities that you seem to believe are essential to life.

    And how many showers per day do you consider necessary for survival?

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Alden
  109. @JerseyJeffersonian

    I am physician.
    Primary care provider and gynecologist can take care of minor genitourinary issues like UTI.
    Anything of significance must be taken care of by Urologist

  110. Hibernian says:
    @Alden

    “Try and find a time machine that will fast forward you from 196o to 2017.

    That’s the chronological argument, and it’s responsible for a lot of what’s wromg with the world these days.

  111. Alden says:
    @Bel Riose

    I can take care of myself and protect myself from lechers and creeps like you.

    I don’t want your sympathy or understanding. But I hate, loathe and detest men who think they have the right to accost me in public or at work.

    I didn’t start out this way. It’s men who have pestered me that makes me hate their crude approaches. How dare those creeps think I would even speak to them. I don’t go around sneaking up on men and breathing on their necks.

    If men let me alone I would not feel the way I do. By the way, feminazis only object to harassment and rape when White men do it. When blacks and Browns do it to White women the feminazis ignore it and excuse it. So I hate loathe and detest feminists as much as I do men who think they can approach me.

    But you, old fogey and stone hands remind me of the black preachers and relatives of all the black thugs I sent off to maximum terms in state prison.

    Men shouldn’t walk alone. Nurses should not work night shifts. People should not park on the street. Carrying purses or driving cars or being out after dark is just an invitation to the black thugs to robbery and battery. It’s all the victims fault and that is exactly the views of every black criminal and preacher and relatives. Blame the victim. BTW there are a lot more men robbery and A&B victims than women.

  112. @Alden

    I’ll get the fainting couch for you, you poor thing. Perhaps you should stick to G-rated conversations until you grow up.

    And how many showers per day do you require?

    • Replies: @Alden
  113. Alden says:
    @Grace Jones

    UTIs and the male equivalent and skin infections and skin fungus and STDs were a lot, lot worse before indoor plumbing, frequent bathing and for UTIs, and STDs ANTIBIOTCS.

    We should all thank Louis Pasteur for his discovery of bacteria and germs and the 20 th century researchers who created antibiotics, fungicides and other meds

    Those problems were rampant before the 2oth century. Your posting about your lack of UTIs is very strange.

    • Replies: @Grace Jones
  114. Hibernian says:
    @peterAUS

    Unless it were a National Guard unit from a small town ordered to commit a My Lai style atrocity against their own town, the answer is yes.

  115. Hibernian says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    Unlikely but not impossible. A SERGEANT MAJOR of the ARMY (who is to the entire Army as a batallion CSM is to his batallion) was involved in a sexual harrassment scandal in the 1985-2000 time frame. A towering example of sterling integrity for his troops.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @peterAUS
  116. Hibernian says:
    @Simply Simon

    Silent Cal Coolidge never wore the uniform either. A lifelong civilian of integrity who respects true professional military advice could do wonders. I don’t think the present incumbent fills the bill, although he’s preferable to Hillary. A low bar to clear, to be sure.

    • Replies: @Alden
  117. Hibernian says:
    @themann

    They can come in handy if you ever have to play a home game, and it may not be long before we do.

  118. Alden says:
    @Stonehands

    I wasn’t t a police officer. In 27 years, not one, not one, criminal ever touched me or attempted to touch me or made a sexual approach.

    I didn’t steal the job from a White man. I got the job a few years before affirmative action. 1,800 people took a written exam. I scored number 7. The county hired the top 11. If a White man had scored number 7 he would have been hired not me.

    As for my kids education, my salary sent 4 kids to excellent private schools. You do know that most children aren’t home schooled but attend schools don’t you?

    You are probably one of those creeps who think a woman would just be delighted to talk with you.

    As far as probation officers having violent interactions with criminals, it doesn’t happen. So don’t make ignorant assumptions about things of which you know nothing.

    If you’re so big on traditional families find a woman and have some kids instead of sounding like John Calvin.

    You being so enraged by the fact that I never responded to sex harassment leads me to believe that you don’t know how to approach women.

    • Replies: @Stonehands
  119. Alden says:
    @Hibernian

    I remember that. He was black and his name was something like McKinley or McKnight. It was the feminazis who turned him in. His record was horrendous and included a lot of forceful rapes. It caused a major, major split between the feminazis and the blacks. He went to prison.

  120. Hibernian says:
    @Alden

    “But you, old fogey and stone hands remind me of the black preachers and relatives of all the black thugs I sent off to maximum terms in state prison.”

    It appears that these people committed these crimes while on probation. Would you share some credit with the cops, the DA, and the judge, for their getting their just desserts?

    • Replies: @Alden
  121. Bel Riose says:
    @Alden

    “But I hate, loathe and detest men who think they have the right to accost me in public or at work.”

    Men have invented, designed, built, maintained, and improved everything Western Females like yourself use on a daily basis, including but not limited to ball-point pens, paper, tires, tables, wheels, scissors, clothing, music, television, television sets, speakers, books, the printing press, microscopes, surgical scalpels, acco folders, pencils, cardboard, steel, coal, soap, fire, smelting, utensils, rubber bands, post-it notes, purses, handbags, and yes even shoes…..in fact, we’ve invented EVERYTHING, right down to the cellphones which are inevitably glued to your greedy, grasping little fingers.

    And you complain about the occasional leer or unwanted advance….?

    As Eric Stratton, aka “Otter,” put it in “Animal House:”

    “Ladies and gentlemen, I’ll be brief. The issue here is not whether we broke a few rules, or took a few liberties with our female party guests – we did.”

    In light of the foregoing, can’t you at least agree that we men can “take a few liberties” with the ladies every now and then….?

    An occasional “liberty” is a very very small recompense for the benefits we’ve conferred upon you gals !!

  122. Alden says:
    @Grace Jones

    I’m sure Wikepedia can tell you that the major reason women are susceptible to UTIs is that the female uretha is much shorter than the male uretha. So the germs get to the bladder more easily. Very, very weird that you boast about your lack of UTIs.

    • Replies: @Grace Jones
  123. Alden says:
    @Grace Jones

    Why do you think people are interested in your bathing habits? Why do you care about other people’s bathing habits?

  124. @another fred

    Sometimes educating people to do things right can improve the statistics.

  125. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Bel Riose

    Come on! You can do better than that. “Scumbag?”

    Nope, can’t. “Scumbag” is properly descriptive. However … Perhaps “man without honor”? Perhaps “career military non-com”? Perhaps “narrow, uneducated, ill-bred”?

  126. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden

    I don’t want your sympathy or understanding. But I hate, loathe and detest men who think they have the right to accost me in public or at work.

    Whoa there, Aldie. You are explaining, discussing, amplifying a quite simple subject to an asshole who has already proven his assholinity beyond question.

    Never, ever, ever explain to an asshole.

  127. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Bel Riose

    An occasional “liberty” is a very very small recompense for the benefits we’ve conferred upon you gals !!

    Consistent and pure essence of scumbag asshole.

    • Replies: @Alden
  128. Alden says:
    @Grace Jones

    You don’t seem to know that UTIs are way up inside the body in the bladder and uretha, not surface areas that can be washed and bathed. Check Wikepedia.

  129. Alden says:
    @Bel Riose

    Repeat, I hate, loathe and dearest the men who have pestered, bothered and harassed me for decades.

    Creeps, weirdos and rapists didn’t invent anything. And neither did you.

    • Replies: @Logan
  130. Alden says:
    @Bel Riose

    You haven’t conferred a benefit to anyone.

  131. Alden says:
    @Hibernian

    I wrote the sentencing briefs. So I was the one who convinced the liberal idiot judges to send them to prison instead of support group counseling.

  132. @Alden

    “UTIs” stands for Urinary Tract Infections. The “male equivalent” of UTIs is UTIs. STDs are spread by sexual activities, not failure to bathe. Speaking of which, why do you refuse to say how frequent bathing has to be?

    • Replies: @Alden
  133. Alden says:
    @Bel Riose

    Your outrage about the fact that women reject the approaches of creeps and weirdos leads me to believe that you are one of those creeps and weirdos who are constantly rejected.

  134. Alden says:
    @Bel Riose

    Take your Liberty with someone else, not me. Black women are easy pickups. Even you should be able to get one.

  135. @Alden

    You call that “boasting”? Most women I’ve known haven’t had UTIs. A very few get them all the time. I think the latter had the bad luck to get a strain of bacteria that forms a tough biofilm, which they can’t get rid of.

    • Replies: @Alden
  136. Alden says:
    @Greg Bacon

    The medics will have to go through a lot of expensive training about the hormone treatments. And the trannies will have to take their female hormones and mood smoothers every day or they’ll get all depressed and hysterical. And the surgeries aren’t done all at once but spread out. And the surgeries often need correcting. So it’s about 3 years they aren’t fit for much.

  137. Alden says:
    @Grace Jones

    How many times have you posted about your UTIs? 10? 12? maybe it’s not boasting, maybe it’s just an obsession.

    • Replies: @Grace Jones
  138. Alden says:
    @Grace Jones

    I know all that. STDs are rampant around the military and have been for thousands of years. And I really don’t care about who bathes and how often.

  139. I have no idea what this thread is about, but I’d love to have an X-rated conversation (tastefully) with Ilana Mercer.

  140. Alden says:
    @Anonymous

    I think Bel Roise is another 90 year old virgin.

  141. Alden says:
    @Hibernian

    Jefferson wasn’t in the army. I don’t think Adams Sr. and Jr were either.

  142. Alden says:
    @yeah

    wait till they demand the military implant embryos in them and maintain an artificial pregnancy to term. It’s possible. All that’s really needed is a constant blood supply to the fetus and constant medical attention.

    Pretty soon the military will have a higher out of wedlock birth rate than the civilian rate.

  143. Alden says:
    @Bel Riose

    Thus speaks another 90 year old male virgin.

  144. Alden says:
    @Stonehands

    So find a woman, get married and have some kids. Practice what you preach.

  145. peterAUS says:
    @Hibernian

    I just know this is going to end badly (for me, of course), but I’ll bait.

    Disclaimer:
    I am an old soldier at heart. Somebody would say the result of brutal school of life altogether. So, I am quite aware of my lack of …how to put it….post modern sensitivity…or whatever this new society is made from.
    I tried a couple of times to talk about this ….topic…with my wife and, as expected, didn’t go well (understatement).
    My son watched, recently, some documentaries about the topic and we had similar conversation (me being insensitive and just not getting it, naturally).

    At the other hand I did have a couple of women, admin type work, in my staff.
    I also trained women in basic infantry skills.

    So…….a thing I get confused a lot is….what EXACTLY is that “sexual harassment” and “sexual assault”….in modern military?

    Is it the same/similar as in corporate environment?
    Like, you say to a female coworker: “…whoah….you are stunning today…..”….is that “harassment”?

    Or….you both get drunk senseless, have animal copulation, wake up, realize what happened, and she says “……..I was assaulted” (among other things) ?

    And now, the best.
    We males have been told that we just can’t comprehend how BAD the rape is. I could understand that.
    Women (and all of the “enlightened” men) say it’s much worse than being beaten up. I could understand that.
    So…a simple question is: have you tried to defend yourself? Where are the bruises, cuts….simple fighting injuries?
    I mean….if somebody was going to do to me a bad harm, I’d try to fight…..

    True, could be weapons involved, multiple assailants etc….but let’s not get too smart.

    One assailant, unarmed. Should we accept the “rape accusation” without any “fighting injury”?

    And, now while I am on the topic, let’s go step further.
    Recent history (say, from WWII) to today, is full of examples of women in combat. Quite effective in given roles. Given roles, ,mind you.
    The difference from the current US/Western military being, those have been militia units fighting for survival of their own people.
    East Europeans, for example.
    Quite…traditional (or, in modern lingo male chauvinistic) societies but I am sure you wouldn’t find all that “rape” from Soviet partisans in WW2 (own women, mind you), through Balkans militias in 90s (own women, of course) , to, say, Donbas militias now (again, own women….).

    So…it’s not quite about “women in military” I guess.
    It’s about “women in modern Western military”.

    Or, women in modern society.

    And, let’s go one step further, very briefly.
    Men and women have been hard wired in a certain way.
    Man hunts and kills, woman takes care of home/kids.
    Partners, not competitors.
    Each with role and position. DIFFERENT.

    Now………well……we are the same.
    And we are competing for the same jobs and social positions.

    So….men fight those they compete with (from words to bullets).
    When a woman is competitor, well, there is one weapon more………

  146. @Alden

    C’mon Alden I’ve been on here for awhile and posted on my private life as a father, a husband and an employer.

  147. @Bel Riose

    Haha…I’m enjoying this!

    • Replies: @Stonehands
  148. @Stonehands

    Cranky dingbats are out in force tonite.

  149. @Alden

    Plus, it don’t matter any more–you can type 8,000 words a minute and be unemployable because every ass with a computer now-a-days thinks he’s an English professor or the editor of the Websters. Morons. And it keeps getting worse.

  150. @Bel Riose

    I don’t have a “tale of woe”. I show my DD214 and I get a free meal once a year and a stupid-ass thanks for my service. Not hijacking the blog as you specify, but I have something to say that I deem relevant. Other people can see relevance or hijacking as they like. They can respond, ignore, or get hostile, as they LIKE. Not why I posted here. I’m not a member of the KKK, but I like the fact that here I can say “nigger” if I want to without losing my job and my reputation forever and anon. I don’t give two shits whether you believe me or not. Be my guest and join the Army–be, all that you can be. Go on, I dare you; otherwise shut yer lips.

    Hijack away, Darlin’.

  151. @art guerrilla

    Art Guerilla–

    So right. I wasn’t scared of my fellow SOLDIERS, just the asses at my base and my office. Didn’t think nothing of hitchin’ rides from the airport, when I was broke and just coming in international. But it was WHITE BOYS I begged a ride from in Louisville, KY. You couldn’t have PAID me to ride back to Ft. Knox with 4 iggner men. NO WAY. 4 White Southern boys in trade for a bottle of Mexican whiskey? No probs. Walked me right up to the door, and were reluctant to take the bottle until I reminded them that nothing is free. Thank you, kind sirs, and enjoy. I much appreciate it. So they all went off with a fond farewell. I walked right up to that group of soldiers–all young ones; I wouldn’t have trusted the old shits, and asked for a ride (they were in uniform, so I knew where they were going), but Black boys? my mouldering remains would still be out there.

    And no worries, Art; Old Fogey’s cool–has her point of view and all. Hell, I used to be more conservative than Laura Ingalls. You know, no vulgarity, swearing, sex, etc., so it’s got a place. It’s all sugar and light until you meet the real world. That’s where hatred is born.

    • Agree: anarchyst
    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Logan
  152. Chudail says:
    @shrub

    If possible, copy paste their conversation. It would be nice to see Mercer’s true colors

    See the alternative to mainstream media is Unz and once you know a little bit about Ron Unz who owns this site, it becomes clear this website is more controlled opposition. So you have awesome writers like Philip Giraldi mixed with crap like Ilana Mercer. Unz himself frequently gives us sermons on not abandoning much of American media – which we need to do because it is heavily compromised by Israel Firsters. We really have to be careful about the information we consume. I personally like PHilip Giraldi and JAmes Petras. Pat Buchanan used to be good but it seems he too has developed a taste for zionist money

  153. @yeah

    @Yeah–

    Have mercy. I laffed so hard I nearly died.

    Fucking trannies in drag and make-up, and nekkid faggots running after the enemy. Hilarious.

    The imagery is funny as hell, but reality does at times intrude–

    Drill sgt, in MY experience telling black girls with red lipstick to knock it off lest they get noticed by STALLIONS (cuz they looked like horse genitalia), flies and ticks going after the stupid gits that wore PERFUME on field exercises, etc.

    And, Scots, back in the day, apparently ripped off their kilts before charging at the enemy. I’ve heard battle gives men a hard-on. If so, this would have been a bit disconcerting, no? A horde of nekkid men charging at you with their dicks pointed skyward. As the enemy, would that not have been worrisome?

  154. @Logan

    Logan–

    Thanks for the link; I shall look into it.

    On the upshot, about women using themselves to advance? I got stories on that score too.

    On the battalion run, I used to dive into the bushes about a block in–I couldn’t run for shit, and I hated it. I got caught once, but skated because the gal who was screwing the sgt. mjr. got caught the same day doing the same thing (different bush) so I didn’t get busted. Several times I got saved by that, just doing the same thing the lovers did and getting caught at the same time so it was all hushed. I wasn’t trying to INFLUENCE anyone by my “crimes”, I just didn’t get what I thought I’d signed up for–i.e., an OFFICE job. I locked my weapon in my locker once and left, but another stupid gal left hers on her BED and departed. She was another one screwing someone important. Same day, same circumstance, but they had Article 15s all wrote up for me until they found out about HER. Oops.

    I’m not sorry for what I went through. 30 years ago, under the bridge, but any female asks me about “serving” her country? I’d be more like to recommend them to that ranch out in Nevada–the bordello; least they’d get paid for it, and probably better respected.

    • Replies: @Logan
  155. @Anonymous

    Like the Applebees’ waiters who come sit on yer lap on Veterans’ Day, give you the free meal and thank you for your service, all the while you’re surrounded by homeless zombie veterans, legless, armless, all shot up that just crawled out from under their bridge to get their one free fucking meal a year. The steak’s the size of a quarter, and no drink included. Yer welcome. Happy democracy.

    I’m totally with you. Sets my teeth on edge. As far as doctors go, fuck ‘em. I am an atheist in more things than religion. I don’t believe in doctors, either.

  156. @Bel Riose

    I’m cool with that, so say you’re 100% correct. Could be.

    But how ’bout truth in advertising. Seen an Army recruitment commercial lately? Be, all that you can be, in the ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRMY. They left out the bit about being some nigger’s bitch, though.

    When they show the field outhouse all completely dusted with lindane powders (that’s to kill crabs), and some fucking nigger walking out whilst scratching his dick saying, I shit you not, that he can scratch your itch, and every female within 300 yards is throwing up her toenails at the very thought of being within 20 feet of this asshole, and him thinking to be God’s gift to women. Granted, I think most men are pigs, but most men keep it contained within their own confines rather than spew filth in mixed company. By the same token, most women are likewise guilty–within their own spheres. But iggners don’t get that, and old white perverts tend to just do it when no one else can see/hear them. Iggners just don’t care–do it in front of anyone. Like monkeys flinging feces. And we ignore it, ‘cuz that’s how monkeys behave, don’t they? Can’t help themselves. A monkey will throw shit at you, and an Iggner will wave his dick at you, and never be alone with an old white dude.

    • Replies: @Bel Riose
  157. delmas says:
    @Pissedoffalese

    Sounds like the Fall of the Roman Empire, you know about the time Alaric sacked the Roman capital.
    Didn’t realize the American military had sunk so low. In hindsight, my great-grandfather (also named Delmas) was right for revolting -War Between the States- and ending up as junior lieutenant for the Confederate Army.

  158. @Hibernian

    You are perhaps correct. I WAS, however, told I was now property of the US Government. Maybe I was, maybe I wasn’t, but I believed them. I was 20 years old. Got them another notch on their quota, whatever the truth was.

    Canada and UK were the exemptions I was told of for foreign national spouses. Mine was neither. Things may have changed since then.

    Typing speed now doesn’t matter one whit. Everybody with a computer thinks he’s an expert nowadays. Back then, a typist (a good one) knew English and grammar, editing and fixing stupid shit that didn’t make sense. Typists are not valued anymore, and I’m not even talking about speed, ‘cuz I knew some cabbages back a few years ago who were VERY fast, but the good ones knew their stuff and could put English teachers to shame. I was that kind of typist. I was also VERY fast.

  159. @Hibernian

    No shit, Sherlock, but jumping out of airplanes ain’t my bag, dig? Wasn’t my bag then, either, which is why I declined. God, imagine me with fucking WINGS. Bleh. Not that big on sewing, either, and where would I have ever got a job later?

  160. Delmas says:

    Overall, a very depressing article.

  161. Rurik says:
    @Pissedoffalese

    It’s all sugar and light until you meet the real world. That’s where hatred is born.

    great comments Pissedoff

    remember MAU?

    • Agree: anarchyst
  162. Logan says:
    @Pissedoffalese

    One point Kratman makes in his essay is that sexual favoritism is intensely demoralizing, not only to the men it disfavors, but perhaps even more so to the less sexually desirable, or perhaps less willing to participate in the shenanigans, females.

    Personally, I think sexuality is an intensely destructive force in any organization. Worked for one company where the sexual politics were intense, and I can guarantee you it demoralized me and many others. Most companies I’ve worked at, however, stomped all over this stuff when it popped up. Possibly I’ve been lucky in that regard.

    Something that gets left out of this discussion is that the old-time gentleman would never take sexual advantage of any woman over which he had undue influence . A gentleman simply did not do this. No doubt this ideal was often honored mostly in its breach, but at least it was an ideal a man could aspire to.

    Of course, the ideal of the gentleman has been comprehensively trashed and ridiculed for the last 50 years, to the point where young men seem unaware it ever existed. It’s been “replaced” with the ideal of a guy becoming a “chick with a dick,” not exactly something that most young men will find inspiring. The key here is that in the old days a gentleman was considered more intensely manly than the cad or thug. Today young men are taught ideas that denigrate their manliness, not promote it. In entirely reasonable, though deplorable, self-defense, they react in “masculine” ways that are not good for either them or the women they mingle with.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  163. Logan says:
    @Pissedoffalese

    Glad to know not all your interactions with men were negative.

    Personally, I was raised to be and still feel, intensely protective to women.

    To the point where I’m intensely conflicted when I see a woman with a car broken down by the side of the road.

    Do I stop to help, and possibly scare the crap out of her?

    Do I stop and possibly get carjacked, since she was serving as bait?

    Do I stop and watch from a distance to make sure she stays okay and (again) scare the crap out of her?

    Do I drive on by and leave her at the mercy of whatever non-gentleman happens along?

    I used to get made fun of (mildly) at one company where I worked. A group would often go to an eatery downtown, and I would insist on walking the women to their cars afterward and make sure they drove away safely. This was considered weird, but I didn’t and don’t care.

    I’m not sure what help I would have been in an attack, since nobody has ever mistaken me for a tough guy.

    • Replies: @Grace Jones
  164. Logan says:
    @Alden

    Sorry for your experience. I have never harassed a woman in my life, and neither have a lot of other men. I have, in fact, come to the defense of women being harassed. Almost got fired once as a result.

    IMO the basic reason for the increase in such behavior is the utter denigration of the gentleman as ideal.

    Would also like to note that many women, though perhaps not you, are offended if they don’t get sexual attention from men.

    Also that identical behavior is often considered harassment or romantic depending on the female’s perception of the male’s social or economic status.

  165. anarchyst says:
    @Logan

    Let’s not absolve women of all of the blame for their “predicament”.
    Many women will chase after the “bad boy”, even if he is abusive and denigrates women. “Nice guys” are seen as “losers” by many women, especially the old-time gentleman.
    I don’t call it “women’s lib”…It’s “womens LIP”…

    • Replies: @Logan
  166. hithere says:
    @Old fogey

    The idea that women are in charge of controlling male sexuality is characteristic of Islamic culture, not Western culture.

    Men in Western societies are expected to control themselves and act in a civilized manner. Rapists receive severe punishment, and have been executed in some cases.

    The unprofessional behavior described here would not be tolerated in any other workplace, the offending employee would be terminated swiftly, if only to avoid a lawsuit by the victim.

  167. Logan says:
    @anarchyst

    Agree, but it’s a very individual thing.

    I agree that to a very considerable extent it is women, and in particular feminists, who have downgraded the idea of the gentleman.

    My best friend in high school married, when he was about 35, a women with three young girls. He adored her, and them, and treated her like a queen. About 10 years later, she left him, after playing around on him for a couple years, with the dismissal that he was “boring and predictable.”

    I suggested he punch her right in the mouth and ask her if she’d seen that one coming. He, of course, was far too much a gentleman to consider doing this.

    She is now living with a guy who beats her up regularly, and has put her in the hospital at least twice. But I guess he isn’t boring.

    • Replies: @Bel Riose
  168. MEFOBILLS says:
    @Grace Jones

    Oh, really? Mine hasn’t. And it’s not because of great attention to personal hygiene.

    This statement is one of false logic : The Exception Makes the Rule.

    The exception doesn’t make the rule!. Statistics are large sample sizes. Your personal experience then would fall into a cohort of women who didn’t get UTI’s. Your cohort represents a small fraction of a larger female UTI suffering population.

    • Replies: @Grace Jones
  169. Bel Riose says:
    @Logan

    “She is now living with a guy who beats her up regularly, and has put her in the hospital at least twice. But I guess he isn’t boring.”

    You mean she stays with a guy who puts her in the hospital ?

    Wow, what a surprise !! (Not).

    Women claim they “civilize” men.

    In fact, there’s no force more destructive to civilization than women.

    Driven by their biological urge to mate with the baddest male around, women — all of them — eschew the bland, boring, safe, predictable “nice guy” and chase the bad boys.

    Some of these cads give them black eyes and broken ribs…but the beauty of such an arrangement is that the woman always finds a way to justify the man’s behavior and/or explain why she stays with him.

    The thug has his work done for him — by the victim, no less!

    How amazing is that? (Not at all, really).

    As someone once said, women divide all people into three categories:

    1. Other women (always rivals, to one extent or another);

    2. Men they would sleep with (thugs, bad boys, a$$holes, etc.), and

    3. Men they won’t sleep with (but will use for whatever they can get).

    • Replies: @Logan
  170. The Scalpel says: • Website
    @Dr. X

    “If we ever have an “old style” war comparable to, say, Korea, especially one that combines both asymmetrical and maneuver warfare & set-piece battles, I predict that this new army is going to quickly fall apart”

    We will have that type of battle. But it will be after we’ve used up all our nukes. At that time, the dynamics will change so much it’s very difficult what to predict

  171. In a country without a basic public health care system, it’s hardly surprising that some working class women are going to try to use the well-funded military as a substitute welfare system. Women exploiting the military for welfare reasons doesn’t seem to be such a big issue in other Anglo countries like Britain and Australia. Hence, if the US spend a little less on the military and a bit more on public health care, this might not be such a problem.

    As far as trannies and women in the military go, why not follow the horses for courses approach. Women’s only combat units for masculine women (as the Russians did in WWII) and males with gender dysphoria left to do what they do best – nerdy tech work away from the macho grunts with buzz cuts.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    , @Ace
  172. Bel Riose says:
    @Pissedoffalese

    “Granted, I think most men are pigs, but most men keep it contained within their own confines rather than spew filth in mixed company. ”

    And this sentence just about sums up why we can safely ignore your drivel.

    That you are uneducated white trash was apparent from your very first post. Given the above, however, we can refine our analysis and say that you are an uneducated, white trash feminist who hates men.

    Do us all a favor, and take your illiterate, stream-of-redneck-feminist/consciousness ramblings elsewhere.

    Or else jump out of an airplane without a parachute.

    Actually, upon reflection, just choose the second option.

    • Agree: Stonehands
  173. @Alden

    Never. I commented about other peoples’ UTIs.

  174. Hibernian says:
    @unpc downunder

    Nerdy tech work can mean fixing tanks on the field of battle. IT work is often done by civilian contractor personnel. You have no idea what you’re talking about.

  175. @Logan

    She’s probably waiting for the tow truck she called with her cell phone.

    • Replies: @Logan
    , @Ace
  176. @MEFOBILLS

    Statisticians are blockheads if they ignore exceptions, because there may be a fixable reason for UTIs.

  177. Logan says:
    @Bel Riose

    True for some (many?) women. Untrue for many others.

  178. Logan says:
    @Grace Jones

    No doubt. But that’s not much help if a thug stops before the tow truck gets there.

  179. Che Guava says:
    @Chris Mallory

    In Japan, konnyaku (a kind of jelly, plant-derived) is not recomended for infants and the elderly.

    Choking to death on it is not uncommon, I eat it in all forms, as hot in broth (not in this season), as sashimi (very good in summer), as sweet jelly (tasty low-cal. dessert).

    The people who are dead from eating it, are people who bolt their food.

    Chew it first, enjoy the flavours and texture, then swallow it.

    Even a gummy old person can do that, it is not difficult, but after a lifetime of bolting food, eating that and choking is a significant cause of death among the elderly.

    OTOH, for infants, it is a reasonable danger, they must be old enough to understand beimg told to chew, the flavour and texture is nice, so a few infants die, too, because their parents are stupid, giving the jelly to children who are too young.

    Stairways to certain elevated temples and shrines are also notorious for killing the elderly, some are having nicknames to reflect that.

    I don’t think the US trend for total extraction, root canal on every one, can be good. Read a work of fiction once, but thinking the statement is true:having all teeth extracted and replaced shortens life expectancy for the young, kills those older.

  180. Ace says:
    @Pissedoffalese

    Sounds like you’re good at seeing what’s right in front of your face. Please read Solzhenitsyn’s The Gulag Archipelago for a riveting story of how communism works in practice, not the playground version that’s sold in the context of rule of law, free markets, and a free press.

    In the army you had a choice of escaping after a relatively short time. Who do you think were your tormentors? Government officials. When you get that communist setup you say you want everything is run by government officials and you don’t have the option of escaping. Remember those barbed wire fences and minefields in E. Germany?

    Anyway, enjoyed your comment. No flies on you I see.

  181. Ace says:
    @imbroglio

    Balance isn’t what’s on the menu.

  182. Ace says:
    @unpc downunder

    I’m so excited about your thoughts on public health care. It works so well elsewhere for problems that don’t involve bandaids and stubbed toes. We’re such neanderthals that we don’t have it.

    • Replies: @Darin
  183. Ace says:
    @Grace Jones

    And clueless about the problem with the car.

    • Replies: @Grace Jones
  184. @Gene Su

    I would say yes, you are correct. A discerning nose could catch a whiff coming from the “Korean Conflict”, but VietNam was the crucible in which the military was unalterably diluted with equal parts of civilian skepticism of Amerika’s foreign policy and with the steps taken to counter that (e.g. the “Zumwalt Navy”).

  185. Darin says:
    @Ace

    I’m so excited about your thoughts on public health care. It works so well elsewhere for problems that don’t involve bandaids and stubbed toes. We’re such neanderthals that we don’t have it.

    Yes, single payer health care does work better, if by better we mean delivering better results for less money. It works in the whole developed world. No one – no one in the whole world – wants to make their health care system American style.
    You can deny it, you can call me communist, but this is all you can do with it.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-01/us-healthcare-global-outlier-and-not-good-way

    • Agree: Grace Jones
    • Replies: @Hibernian
  186. @Ace

    Most guys are clueless about car problems nowadays. Modern cars aren’t like the ones in the old days. They’re designed to require specialized care. Even if it’s a simple problem like the microprocessor dropping dead and you know how to pop another one in, you might need a tow truck to deliver the part to you. At any rate, it’s not safe to work on a car alongside a busy high-speed road.

    • Replies: @Ace
  187. Ace says:
    @Grace Jones

    Perhaps. I can’t say what most guys do or do not know about cars.. Some of the automobile bulletin boards are frequented by men with incredible skills and knowledge. Some women too.

    The distributor’s long gone and g/f’s new Infiniti no longer has a camshaft if I understand things. There’s a problem with that new feature and I wouldn’t even attempt to fix it. No gas and a flat you can fix on the shoulder. Not much else.

    I don’t think modern cars are designed to require specialized care. They’re designed for fuel efficiency and pollution reduction. As it turns out this has made engines more complex which in turn requires specialized care. That said, if you check out the many YouTube videos there is a host of problems well within the capability of consumers. Error codes generated by the car’s computer sound daunting but a decent manual breaks it down into baby steps. Fun stuff.

  188. Hibernian says:
    @Darin

    The British cut health care costs by letting people die. Government run health care already exists in the US in the form of the VA. How’s that working out?

  189. @Grace Jones

    I don’t know any Europeans who think it’s remotely acceptable to bathe only once a week. Nonsense, luckily.

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