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51qciM4cBhL._SX258_BO1,204,203,200_*The past after the word*

If science is hard, history is harder. Harder in that the goal is to understand what happened in ages which are fading away like evanescent ghosts of our imagination. But we must be cautious. We are a great storytelling species, seduced by narrative. The sort of empirically informed and rigorous analysis which is the hallmark of modern scholarship is a special and distinctive thing, even if it is usually packaged in turgid and impenetrable prose. It is too pat to state that history was born fully formed with the work of Thucydides (or Sima Qian). In fact Thucydides’ pretensions at historical objectivity despite obvious perspective and bias lend credence to the assertions of those who make the case that the past is fiction (in this way Herodotus may actually have been more honest). The temptation is always great to paint an edifying myth which gives succor to national pride or flatters our contemporary self-image. The fact that modern nation-states in the technological age have vigorous debates about details as to the nature of periods of history in the recent past, when the people who lived during those times are still here to bear witness, is telling in terms of the magnitude of the task before us. Fraught questions must be answered with far fewer resources.

Much of history we see only vaguely through chance and contingency, known through happenstance and the whims of our ancestors. In the West the documents which shed light upon antiquity come to us through tunnels of finite transmissions, a furious period of textual transcription in the last few centuries before 1000 A.D. The Carolingians, the Byzantines, and the Abbasids all engaged in sponsoring the capital intensive project of taking ancient texts and making copies for posterity. The vast majority of the works of antiquity we have today can be traced back to this period[1]. Biases and concerns of the elites who sponsored these projects were critical in determining the nature of the source material which serves as the foundation for our understanding of the deeper past which we take for granted today. We know how little was copied because the extant material make copious reference to a vast body of work which was circulating in the ancient world on assorted topics (and even many of the works we do have are only portions of multi-volume endeavours, such as that of Livy).

brotherhoodBut what about pushing beyond what the text can tell us, and transitioning from history to prehistory? Here is where matters become opaque and conditional upon the nature of the texts (or lack thereof). This is clear when you observe that there are very early periods of human history when our knowledge of individual actors and daily life is actually greater than later epochs due to regress of civilization, or, changes in technology which mitigated against preservation of texts[2]. The “Dark Ages” of Greece between the Mycenaeans and the Classical Greeks are the purview purely of archaeology (and even during the Mycenaean period most Linear B were of a bureaucratic nature; I do not know of narrative literature such as we have for Egypt or Babylon). For the Classical Greeks the rupture was traumatic enough that their Mycenaean past became the subject of legends. The citadels of the Bronze Age warlords were viewed as “cyclopean” works, as if only giants could have created them. Similarly, the period in Britain between the end of central Roman rule and the Christianization of the Anglo-Saxons, about two centuries, is perceived only faintly because of the paucity of written records (this also explains why this period is often utilized as the setting for historical fantasy).

9780192807281_p0_v1_s260x420 Yet when text is silent one still has material remains. Their collection and analysis are the domain of archaeology, a historical science. The fact that history as we understand it deals in the written word, and so limits its focus to the period when we have texts, is itself a historical coincidence. Ideally traditional history and archaeology should work in concert, and critically, words have a way of deceiving and misleading. Most obviously we have a major ascertainment bias in our understanding of the past when we listen only to the perspectives of those who can speak through words, because they who were literate or had access to literate professionals were a very small subset of the broader human experience. Archaeology has less of this bias, because all classes leave behind their material evidence (though if one wants textual representations of a broader cross section of the Roman populace, the novel The Golden Ass is a good place to start). An excellent illustration of this for me, as readers know, is the extended argument in the book The Fall of Rome, which brings material evidence to buttress the position that the decline and fall of the unitary Roman state in the 5th century coincided with a genuine degradation of what we might term civilization. Revisionists looking purely at textual materials have long argued that the classical view was misleading, and to reduce their argument down toward its essence, suggest that classical civilization evolved and transformed, channeling its energies into different activities (e.g., the rise of Christian theology as a successor to the classical liberal arts, see Peter Brown’s The Rise of Western Christendom). But what material remains tell us is that there was indeed an economic and demographic collapse, despite apologia that one can make as to the reshaping of high culture in texts. One may choose to weight these facts, or not, but the facts nevertheless remain, no matter how many glosses one wishes to upon them. The Rome of 600 may have had many more Christian theologians than the Rome of 400 (which was then a mainly non-Christian city), but the Rome of 400 probably had a population on the order of 10-20 times greater.

41hdiv6SmHL._SY344_BO1,204,203,200_ In a world without text, which is almost all of human history, the material remains are all that we have to grasp upon. Though we can attempt to glean the minds of people long gone from paintings and scratches in stone, the reality is that what they hunted with, what they ate with, and the dwellings in which they lived, are going to give us concrete information where leaps of imagination are unnecessary. Moving beyond the text can allow us to truly illuminate the vast dark oceans of human history with more than our dreams, from the dawn of our species, down to even recent periods when literacy was the privilege of the few, and the experiences of the many were dead to us. Despite this, the paintings have only a few colors on the palette, because archaeology is filled with enormous gaps in perception. Pots not cloth. Caves not tents.

Which brings us to biology, and specifically genetics, as it turns out that DNA is actually one of the material remains that one can extract from archaeological field sites. It’s a robust macromolecule, and today researchers believe that it is feasible that some information can be drawn from remains as old as 1 to 2 million years, though that’s a best case scenario. When it comes to questions of demographic change genetic insights are key, and present data in a way that allows for more rigorous analysis. As has been the case in previous posts I must now give a nod here to L. L. Cavalli-Sforza and The History and Geography of Human Genes. Cavalli-Sforza’s magnum opus reopened the book in attempting to understand history through demographics. It was the first page, and the first chapter. Prior to this before World War II there was a cottage industry which attempted to do what Cavalli-Sforza achieved in the late 20th century. But these endeavors were hobbled by two problems. First, they was not scientific, often relying upon intuition derived from their erudition (they were not hypothetico-deductive, though that’s overrated if you have lots of data). Second, the reliance upon intuition meant that many of the conclusions dovetailed rather neatly with the ideological preferences of the day, National Socialism most horrifically, but much more widely than that was a shoddiness of nationalism inflected prehistory. Scientific romance without the genocide (see Pat Shipman’s The Evolution of Racism). After World War II archaeologists reversed course and decoupled cultural evolution and change from demographic variation. Works such as the Races of Europe became anachronistic when decades before they’d have been mainstream, and there was a strong bias toward a null hypothesis that pots, that is cultural traditions, migrate, but people do not.

 

k7442 Into this intellectual climate stepped Cavalli-Sforza and his students, triggering a minefield in academic explosions (see The Human Genome Diversity Project: An Ethnography of Scientific Practice). Molecular anthropology in its earliest incarnations focused on deep time. In particular, there was a recalibration of time depth of the origin of apes and humans, where the molecular biologists clashed with paleontologists, and came out the victors (see The Monkey Puzzle for a history of these controversies). Then, there was the “Out of Africa” debate (see The African Exodus). Though these were somewhat fractious and personalized arguments, the emotions around the implications of these contests of ideas were often limited to scholars (though the scholars themselves may not have felt the fallout was limited; apparently at Stanford in the late 1990s a cultural anthropologist gave a presentation where he juxtaposed a photo of Cavalli-Sforza with Josef Mengele). What Cavalli-Sforza did was bring genetic science toward addressing more contemporary phenomena, to answer questions which come to the cusp of the present, tackling issues of relevance to living human people on the scale of nations and peoples. Over many decades his lab collected enough information from hundreds of genetic loci to arrive at the sum totality of inferences which were eventually presented in The History and Geography of Human Genes.

CosttoSequenceaGenome-e1409924136899 Let’s take a step back here. Cavalli-Sforza and his colleagues had access to hundreds of markers at best. Note that ~2% of the human genomic codes for proteins, but there are 3 billion positions in terms of bases. Today anyone who wants to pay can get millions of positions through SNP-chip services. My son has billions of positions, because he’s been whole-genome sequenced. For phylogenetic purposes you don’t need billions, millions, or even thousands, depending on the nature of the questions you have in mind. But, it puts in perspective how far we’ve come in literally 20 years. Even 5 years.

As is the nature of science there was much that Cavalli-Sforza got wrong in The History and Geography of Human Genes. But there was much that he got right, because the results were so clear and strong on particular points of contention. In short, very broad patterns on the continental level jumped out when analyzing even hundreds of neutral (that is, not subject to natural selection) markers. For example, the data confirm a gradient of genetic diversity which implies human origins from an African locus, as well as the relative homogeneity of Europe (aside from Finns, European populations have a surprisingly low between-population pairwise genetic distance in most cases). But, more subtle counterintuitive relationships were often not robust (e.g., North and South Chinese do not bifurcate in the manner that he reported in the 1990s). And, most critically for the purposes of this post inferring past demography from current phylogeographic patterns had serious limitations.

*The present as a window into the past*

downloadm511NSSGQNWL._SY344_BO1,204,203,200_ The basic idea behind historical population genetics (archaeogenetics) which was pioneered by Cavalli-Sforza at the HPGL at Stanford was to look at patterns of diversity and relatedness among modern populations, and intersect that with what was and is known about history, as well as geography, and then allow those intersections to peal back the palimpsests of human history (see his The Great Human Diasporas). Though Cavalli-Sforza focused initially on autosomal markers scattered through the genome, in the period between 1995 and 2005 there was a great deal of work using uniparental data., the markers on the Y and mtDNA. The mtDNA is passed through women only, is copious in terms of quantity on a cellular level, and has a highly mutable region of utility for molecular phylogenetics. The Y chromosome exhibited some technical difficulties in comparison to mtDNA, but with the emergence of better extraction techniques as well as a focus on highly mutable microsatellite regions, it came to be set next mtDNA as a critical tool in the forensic reconstruction of human population history. In addition, both had the virtue of being nonrecombining, so that the generation of a phylogenetic tree was not an artificiality, but a reflection of the nature of the transmission of these two regions of the genome (congenial to a coalescent framework as well).

Human_migrationIn the end this line of research often resulted in a transposition of a phylogenetic tree upon a world map, outlining patterns of human migration. It also aligned well with another line of research which explicitly modeled the expansions of humans out of Africa as a “serial founder bottleneck” process. That is, each population which left Africa progressively branched out in a unidirectional manner, resulting in reduced genetic diversity as one progressed out of Africa.

Ramachandran, Sohini, et al. "Support from the relationship of genetic and geographic distance in human populations for a serial founder effect originating in Africa." Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America 102.44 (2005): 15942-15947.

Ramachandran, Sohini, et al. “Support from the relationship of genetic and geographic distance in human populations for a serial founder effect originating in Africa.” Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America 102.44 (2005): 15942-15947.

In its broadest strokes this model is not without validity. It does seem that most of the ancestry of modern humans can be traced to a population which flourished around or in Africa ~50-100 thousand years ago. Much of the inter-continental racial variation that we see in extant populations does nicely fit onto a bifurcating tree-like model (e.g., Non-Africans branch off from Africans, West Eurasians and East Eurasians diverge, Amerindians branch off from East Eurasians). The problem though is that the branches themselves turn out to be brambles which turn back in on themselves, and in some cases twist with other branches, creating lineages with very diverged ancestral roots. The yield of the earliest efforts by Cavalli-Sforza and his heirs was on a very coarse continental grain, where the effects of the dynamics were so striking that they would exhibit themselves across most neutral markers without much difficulty. But, when the questions were narrower, and the temporal and spatial scope more constrained, the earlier methods were not perceptive enough to smoke out the real dynamics.

Li, Jun Z., et al. "Worldwide human relationships inferred from genome-wide patterns of variation." science 319.5866 (2008): 1100-1104.

Li, Jun Z., et al. “Worldwide human relationships inferred from genome-wide patterns of variation.” science 319.5866 (2008): 1100-1104.

By the middle years of the 2000s researchers had gone back to a focus on recombining autosomal markers. But now they had a whole human genome to compare it to, as well as SNP-chips which quickly yielded large troves of data with little effort. In 2008 a paper was published which took the origin HGDP data set collected by Cavalli-Sforza and his colleagues, and utilized the new technologies to make deeper inferences. First, instead of hundreds of markers you had 650,000 SNPs. Second, the emergence of powerful new analytic and computational resources allowed for the complemention of tree-based and PCA visualizations of genetic relationship with model-based understandings of genetic variation and population structure. By “model-based,” I mean that the algorithm posits particular parameters (e.g., “3 ancestral populations”) and operates upon the data (e.g., “650,000 SNPs in 1000 individuals”) , to generate results which are the best representation of the fit of the data to the model.HGDPme This different from PCA, which has fewer assumptions, and represents genetic variation geometrically (each axis represents an independent dimension of variation within the data). Model-based clustering is very clear and aesthetically appealing. It gives precise results. But, the model itself is not necessarily right.

Anyone who uses these methods understands their limitations. If you use PCA to project variation of the data set, then the composition of the data you input is going to influence the largest principal components. Therefore, if you are asking questions on a broader spatial scale you should be careful about the possibility that you are overloading the sample set of interest with particular populations. More data in this case might result in less insight. Similar issues crop up with model-based clustering you don’t appropriately weight the populations. Another major problem is that the models are imposing limitations which might produce false inferences (false in that they do not accurately reflect demographic history). Most simply you might ask for many more population divisions than is realistic for the demographic and genetic history of the data. Consider a data set of Irish from Cork and Nigerians from a small village. PCA would no doubt show you two very tight and distinct clusters. With a model-based framework you could look for divisions and structure beyond K = 2 (two ancestral populations). The method is devised in such way that you would get results. But, they wouldn’t be very informative, and they’d be forced. They wouldn’t be robust. The model would be a poor fit to reality.

*From model to reality*

Obviously no model captures all elements of reality. But when the model deviates so much from reality that you get a false sense of what is true then that model is not nearly as useful. Being wrong is a definite bug. Aside from model-based admixture analysis, which posits a finite number of ancestral populations which come together to produce the genetic variation in the data set, you notice that the 2008 paper also had a tree representation of genetic variation. These two together give real and substantive results that can be useful. But, they mislead to the point of falsity in many specific cases.

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Reich, David, et al. “Reconstructing Indian population history.” Nature 461.7263 (2009): 489-494.

This can be illustrated by the instance of South Asians, who are about 20% of the world’s population. A 2009 paper, Reconstructing Indian Population History, utilized both the higher autosomal marker density sets and new analytic frameworks to come to some specific conclusions which resolve many confusions about the nature of the genetic history of the peoples of the Indian subcontinent. So what did we know before? If you go back to the ideas of the old physical anthropologists they observed that many South Asian groups had an affinity to the peoples of West Eurasia (Europeans and West Asians). This varied as a function of geography and caste. In other words, there was a cline to the northwest, as well as up and down the caste system. You can see it in a PCA, where Indian groups vary in distance from Europeans, while Europeans form a very tight cluster. It also shows up in admixture based analyses. There is usually a K value where a South Asian modal cluster emerges, and it is near fixation in South Indian non-Brahmins, declining in frequency as one moves toward Pakistan, or, in North India up the caste hierarchy (the residual are West Asian and European clusters, except Bengalis, who have East Asian admixture). In The History and Geography of Human Genes South Asians form an outgroup to Europeans and Middle Eastern populations using older distance measures.

So far all good. One can imagine then a cline of genetic variation, with South Asians at one end, and West Eurasians at the other. On a PCA between East Asians and Europeans South Asians usually fall in the middle, but closer to Europeans. But there have long been major problems with this model when you drilldown into the details. The mtDNA and Y chromosomes of South Asians give very different results. The former classes them as distinct from West Eurasians, with distance affinities to East Eurasians. The latter on the other hand are quite a bit more like West Eurasians. Second, South Asians exhibit a lot of variation as a function of both geography and class in terms of their relatedness to word populations. If South Asians were deeply rooted in the subcontinent, as the migration maps above would imply, then we’re talking about massive barriers to gene flow which have persisted for tens of thousands of years. An alternative explanation is that South Asians are the product of recent admixture between two very different groups, which is what is often the norm when there is a lot of inter-individual variation in ancestral components and PCA position within a putative population group (e.g., African Americans). Finally, tests of natural selection geared toward detecting very recent sweeps have indicated a commonality between South Asians and Europeans and Middle Easterners on the haplotype of SLC24A5, which implies either extreme connectedness, or, recent admixture and migration (on the margin these two models are going to be hard to distinguish, since connections are mediated through migration).

I will sidestep the technical issues at this point, and just offer up that the work on South Asians has presaged much of what we’ve learned over the past decade when it comes to the genesis of modern population structure. The puzzles about South Asian genetic variation are resolved when you admit a model where a West Eurasian population mixed with a local indigenous group with distant affinities with other East Eurasians (see Genetic Evidence for Recent Population Mixture in India). The high level of between population variance within South Asia is due to the recent nature of the admixture event and the high genetic distance between the source populations. This may actually be the story of much of the world over the last 10,000 years. Instead of a regular branching process, imagine branches that periodically fuse back together, in a reticulated pattern. Another way to conceive of it is that the last 10,000 years have been a story of the destruction of population structure accrued over the past 100,000 years. A survey of this field can be found in the review Toward a new history and geography of human genes informed by ancient DNA.

*Inference made concrete, ancient DNA*

Up until now we have been talking about increasing the power of analysis of genetic variation in existent populations. Processes like bottlenecks and positive selection leave footprints in the genomes of modern peoples. But these methods of inference have limits. And, to a great extent they necessitate a simplicity of population dynamics to allow for them to have utility in painting a portrait of the past. Researchers had to assume that the past was simple, or the methods that they had wouldn’t be able to tell them as much as they claimed. The complexity of the demographic palimpsest could never race beyond ability of the genetic methods to peel it back, so there was a ceiling on the number of layers imposed upon the model.

41ePHetk1dL._SY344_BO1,204,203,200_ Ancient DNA was a game changer, because it did not come with these limitations. Instead of just inferring the past from the present, the past could now be inferred from the past! That is, a temporal transect in time could be generated which explicitly explored the trajectory of genetic variation across time and space. As if to recapitulate history the earliest work was with mtDNA, just as it had been with “mtDNA Eve” in the 1980s. The sequence target here is small and mtDNA is copious. The immediate upshot though is that massive discontinuities were detected. Populations replaced each other repeatedly in many regions. Pulse admixture events being inferred with novel methodologies on extant populations now could be understood to have been the natural result of migration and population change over the past ~50,000 years. Thanks to the work of researchers such as Svante Paabo and Eske Willerslev the number of samples we have from ancient DNA for humans has grown to such an extent over the past 5 years that a bright line is shining into what had been a dark cavern of prehistory.

*European man, made and unveiled*

Because of both the concentration of researchers in Europe, as well as suitable preservation conditions in Northern Eurasia, ancient DNA has totally changed how we understand the genetic history of this continent most especially. Two new papers have expanded the sample set to 170 individuals, and many major questions have now been answered, and other new questions have been triggered by perplexing results. A few years ago I was talking to Spencer Wells about the age that we are privileged to live in. Spencer is a history and genetics buff (he was one of Richard Lewontin’s last grad students). So naturally as genetic science has emerged to shed light on history we’ve tracked its developments very closely. Spencer professionally, he’s a genetic anthropologist. Many questions which in the past would have been unanswerable are now answerable. Truth is coming at us so fast that it is hard to even respond to all of it (if you wait too long to publish, everything might have changed).

Carl Zimmer’s piece in The New York Times, DNA Deciphers the Roots of Modern Europeans, is accurate as to the current state of the accelerating research in this area. This is the equivalent of having a Rosetta Stone. The ancients are now coming back to life. They speak! Everything has changed. In Nature Ewen Callway quotes a scientist stating in plain language, “Christ, what does this mean?” I’ll try and flesh out further what it means, but the papers themselves do a good job. These are first steps, but they’re very big steps. There’s only so much more to go, and truth will be at hand.

First, the two papers, Massive migration from the steppe was a source for Indo-European languages in Europe, and Population genomics of Bronze Asia Eurasia. As might be suggested by the title the latter paper has coverage of populations outside of Europe, while the former focuses on Europe. The samples sizes are 69 and 101 respectively. The first paper uses a methodology which yields many SNPs, while the latter relied upon whole-genome sequencing (variation is variation, so really this is a minor detail for the results, though it matters a lot for the working scientists who are generating the data). Both agree broadly on the major results. Additionally, there is a third work, a preprint, Eight thousand years of natural selection in Europe, which has results in line with the second paper above (it has a section on selection as well as phylogenomics).

*European genetic structure is younger than the pyramids*

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The old debate whether Europeans are descended from farmers or hunter-gatherers was always somewhat incoherent. All humans are descended from hunter-gatherers. Rather, the issue was whether modern Europeans descend primarily from people who were resident within the continent of Europe at the end of the last Pleistocene, or, whether they descend from peoples who developed agriculture in the Middle East ~10,000 years ago. That is, did farming spread through cultural diffusion or migration? Plants or people? The answer is actually not straightforward, but, the results are not controversial today.

First, migration seems to have been the dominant dynamic which defined the spread of farming, especially early on. These first farmers who arrived in Europe were genetically very different from the hunter-gatherers of Europe’s north and west. Some of their ancestry had been isolated by long distances for tens of thousands of years before contact. The people of the Iberian peninsula today have less genetically in common with the hunter-gatherers which were present in the region when the farmers arrived than do modern Northern Europeans, who harbor a greater fraction of ancestry which derives from the Pleistocene people. The main qualifier I’d put on this though is that the farmers themselves seem to have picked up European hunter-gatherer admixture on their way out of the Middle East. The fraction is on the order of ~50%. The other component has been termed “Basal Eurasian,” because this element is an outgroup to all other Eurasians, including the European hunter-gatherers. That is, the Basal Eurasians are an outgroup to a clade that includes such as diverse populations as Andaman Islanders, Australian Aborigines, Japanese, and European hunter-gatherers.

Lazaridis, Iosif, et al. "Ancient human genomes suggest three ancestral populations for present-day Europeans." Nature 513.7518 (2014): 409-413.

Lazaridis, Iosif, et al. “Ancient human genomes suggest three ancestral populations for present-day Europeans.” Nature 513.7518 (2014): 409-413.

The figure to the left is from the paper Ancient human genomes suggest three ancestral populations for present-day Europeans. WHG = “Western (European) Hunter-Gatherers.” EEF = “Early European Farmers.” You can see that EFF is a compound. I don’t think there’s too much clarity right now with where the EEF got its WHG-like ancestry. It could have been structure in the Middle East. Or it could have been in Southeast Europe. In the supplements of Haak et al. they test a Hungarian sample, and it does seem that the EEF individuals are closer to it than the Western European hunter-gatherer samples. So there might have been structure in the ancestral European population, but the confidence here is low. And from what I can tell Basal Eurasian is still something of a mystery, almost occupying the role of “Planet X” before the discovery of Nepture. To make the patterns make sense they have to exist, but much isn’t known about them in detail. And of course there seems to be a huge lacunae right now in terms of exploring the population genetics of the Middle East in a similar fashion as has occurred in Northern Eurasia (my understanding is that Carlos Bustamante was an important person in getting Latin American populations in the 1000 Genomes; unfortunate that there wasn’t someone else to advocate for including a Middle Eastern group, since this is such an important part of the world for human history).

With all that said, if one assumes that the West Eurasian admixture in EEF was from European hunter-gatherers, then it is clearly obvious that most of the ancestry of modern Europeans can date to the Pleistocene (i.e., EEF + Yamnaya likely means more than half the ancestry is WHG-like if you look back 10,000 years). But, this proportion obscures the fact that massive migrations and population turnovers have occurred, so that a simple model of expansion out of Ice Age refuges no longer holds. Cavalli-Sforza has long argued that pure proportions of ancestry are less important than the dynamic, as population growth driven “waves of advance” will over time dilute the initial genetic signal anyway (though the final proportion of non-WHG-like ancestry is actually higher in much of Europe than Cavalli-Sforza conceded in the early 2000s). Whether the ancestry of modern Europeans derives predominantly from those of European hunter-gatherers, the idea of dominant local continuity in a given region has been thoroughly refuted. The hunter-gatherer ancestry in the British Isles, for example, may be mostly from admixture into agricultural groups far to the south and east during the initial waves of advance, not from the people who initially recolonized Northern Europe in the early Holocene.

k8488 The second demographic turnover event which has been highlighted by the papers cited so far is from the east. The migration from the steppes. This event had disproportionate, even dominant, impact across much of Northern Europe. Culturally it is often rooted in the Yamnaya complex, which gave rise to various disparate and wide ranging “daughter” societies. David Anthony’s The Horse, the Wheel, and Language surveys the archaeological terrain thoroughly. If you are interested in this topic, and haven’t read it, do read it. In this work Anthony outlines the spread of Indo-European languages via expansion of a mobile pastoralist elite. He was involved in the retrieval of some of the samples in these studies, and from what I am to understand he was personally surprised that the genetic data imply not just elite migration, but a folk wandering. Not just a band of brothers, but whole peoples on the move.

Haak, Wolfgang, et al. "Massive migration from the steppe was a source for Indo-European languages in Europe." Nature (2015).

Haak, Wolfgang, et al. “Massive migration from the steppe was a source for Indo-European languages in Europe.” Nature (2015).

Focusing on the genetics, these people seem to themselves be a compound of disparate elements. First, some of their ancestry derives from a population which Haak et al. term “Eastern Hunter-Gatherers” (EHG). And the other half derives from a population with affinities to those of the Near East, but different from that of the EEF. There is some disagreement between the two papers in Nature as to the details, but Allentoft et al. admit that they did not have EHG samples, which may have impacted their ability to detect admixture. Allentoft et al. also diverge from Haak et al. in the emphasis they place on the ancestral component among the Yamnaya which some term “Ancient North Eurasian” (ANE) based on the location of the most ancient individual of this line (see Upper Paleolithic Siberian genome reveals dual ancestry of Native Americans). What does seem clear is that this element is deeply diverged from other West Eurasian populations, on the order of ~20 to 30 thousand years. And, they contribute about half the ancestry to the EHG (the rest is WHG-like). The descendants of the Yamnaya people brought this component all throughout Europe, with the exception of the Sardinians and Sicilians, likely isolated because of their position on the Mediterranean littoral (Sicilians have later Near Eastern admixture as well). But this is not limited to Europeans, as a substantial proportion of Native American and West and South Asian ancestral heritage (at least the Kalash) also exhibit connections to this component. Allentoft et al., like Haak et al., points out that there was likely structure in this broader group. That is, the ANE themselves were diversified, with the ancestors of the element in Native Americans and Europeans different from that which contributed to the Siberian component. In fact I have talked to researchers who believe that the term “Ancient North Eurasian” is misleading, as there is little clarity on the distribution of this group (the highest inferred fractions in Eurasia are in the North Caucasus). It is feasible that the Kalash have a different ANE source than Europeans.

A key issue to note, and that confuses some people, is that the ancestry of groups such as Yamnaya exhibited commonalities with other groups across Eurasia. Therefore, if you replaced similar groups then the change in admixture components utilizing model-based programs may not be as extreme as you would think. To illustrate what I’m getting at concrete, the population transfer between Greece and Turkey during the 1920s was far more impactful as a dynamic than simple before and after admixture estimates would suggest to you (since genetically the two groups were very similar). The figure from Haak et al does not use admixture components that break out naturally, but their inferred demographic mixes taking into account the genetic character of the putative ancestral populations. The blue component refers to WHG, but WHG-like ancestry is also in both the green (Yamnaya) and orange (EEF) elements (this is why I’m saying it is likely that modern Europeans are mostly >50% WHG-like).

One temporal dimension that Haak et al emphasizes in particular, but seems clear in Allentoft et al. as well, is that non-Yamnaya ancestry slowly begins to rise again by the Bronze Age. Why? I will address that below. But, Allentoft et al. has broader Eurasian samples, including likely Indo-European populations in the trans-Ural and trans-Altai regions. In both of these areas the successor cultures had EEF-like ancestry. That is, like the Corded Ware population, and unlike the parent Yamnaya group. This strongly implies back-migration by this complex from Eastern Europe, as far east as western China, during the Bronze Age.

warbefore In The New York Times piece David Anthony states two things which puzzle me as an interested lay person without his expertise. First, he seems to think that the amalgamation of the Yamnaya and EEF-descended populations was not a warlike process. Specifically he says “It wasn’t Attila the Hun coming in and killing everybody,”. This is a useful image, but let’s be honest and note that the Huns were not primary producers, and did not aim just to increase pasturage by killing settled peoples as Genghis Khan had wanted to do (see The End of Empire: Attila the Hun & The Fall of Rome). Rather, they conquered and subordinated other barbarian groups, as well as extorted tribute from the East Roman Empire. The demographic impact of the Huns was not directly from them, but the fact that they and their successors (in particular the Avars) facilitated the migration of other groups, first, the Goths, and later the expansion of the Slavs. By the time of Attila barbarian leaders were well aware that the conquered were vital as economic producers whose capture and subjugation would allow them to engage in status competitions of conspicuous consumption. I do not believe that this was quite the case in the Copper and Bronze Ages beyond the limes of the civilized world, which was then an small archipelago of literacy in a sea of barbarism. Both the above papers indicate massive demographic disruption across Europ. Though war as we understand it is necessarily inevitable for our species, between the rise of agriculture and the modern period it seems to have been very common. It is not a coincidence that the Scandinavian Corded Ware culture are also called the Battle-Axe culture. Yes, many archaeologists believe that they were primarily a status symbols. I’m willing to bet many archaeologists are wrong. It’s been known to happen.

gokturk_empire_by_still_ates The second issue which Anthony brings up is the connectedness of the various post-Yamnaya cultures, in particular that of the earliest Indo-Europeans on the fringes of western China, 4,000 miles from their likely point of origin. The genetic characteristics of these eastern groups is also such that it is likely that there was gene flow from Europe, mediated by a common steppe culture. Anthony states that “I myself have a hard time wrapping my head around explanations for that”. This totally confuses me, because he’s a professional archaeologist, so he must know that widespread gene flow and cultural ties cross the vast swath of the Eurasian heartland is not surprising at all! To Carl Zimmer I pointed out the example of the Goturk Empire of the mid 6th century A.D., which expanded rapidly from the core Altai zone, and prefigured the later distribution of the Turkic people, from the Nile to the fringes of the Arctic sea. Language and lifestyle mediate relationships and demographic contact. The peripatetic character of steppe peoples is well known and attested from the historical and semi-historical record. Groups such as the Huns, Avars, and Alans, had inchoate origins in the heart of Eurasia, and moved back and forth along lines of cultural affinity as needed. Alans were serving under the Mongols in China in the 13th century, but 800 years earlier they had accompanied the Vandal tribe to North Africa, and maintained a separate identity there until the conquest of Justinian. It seems entirely plausible that this pattern of hyper-mobility arose with agro-pastoralism along the whole range of continuous ecological appropriateness, only ending with the rise of gunpowder empires and the crushing of the Oirat by the Manchus (with the tacit approval of Russia).

*Northern European archetypical physical characteristics are younger than the pyramids*

Spencer Wells, a new look in the world

Spencer Wells, a new look in the world

Phylogenomics is tangled and complicated still, even with all these new results. I’ve only scratched the surface above. You really need to read the papers, and their supplements, to even get a sense of what’s going on (yes, ideally you’ll know what an f3 statistic is!). But, the population genomics which give us a sense of the character of natural selection and phenotype over time is much clearer. The suite of traits which we associate with white Europeans is quite possibly very recent, as late as post-Bronze Age. White supremacist scholars of the early 20th century who posited that ancient Egypt (in fact, all civilizations) were founded by blonde Nordic people turn out to likely be wrong because these civilizations probably predate the existence of blonde Nordic people, both in their genetic structure, and in their physical type (at least in any number).

nature14507-f4 The genetic architecture of pigmentation is something geneticists know a fair amount about, because genome-wide association has been very fruitful in this area. Unlike traits such as height there is a large amount of between population variation in pigmentation. And, that variation is due in large part to a few genes of large effect. At SLC24A5 there is a SNP which accounts for around 1/3 of the melanin index difference between Europeans and Africans, using an admixed African American population to test the effect. As I have observed before SLC24A5 in its derived form is as close to fixed as you can get in Europeans. In the 1000 Genomes data set of thousands of individuals I found a few samples with a heterozygote and the ancestral copy. In the Middle East this allele is also near fixation, though not quite. As you can see from the figure I adapted from Allentoft et al., among South Asians the derived allele is also at high frequency. My whole family is a homozygote for the “European” variant. There is some suggestive evidence that this haplotype derives from the Middle East. It was only at low frequency among European hunter-gatherers[3]. But, by the Bronze Age had it gone to fixation in Europe, as well as on the Eurasian steppe.

Of more interest to me is the trajectory of SLC45A2. The derived allele is nearly fixed in modern European populations, though not nearly to the same extent at SLC24A5. In Iberian and Sardinian populations the ancestral type is in the range of ~10%. During the Bronze Age in Europe it was only at ~50% frequencies, which is in the range of modern Middle Eastern populations. It was even at lower frequency in the steppe, from which the putative Indo-Europeans migrated.

Finally, in this panel for pigmentation they included a major SNP in OCA2-HERC2 region. This locus is famous for being involved in blue-brown eye color variation, explaining 75% of the variance, and also exhibiting the third longest haplotype in the European genome. Naively projecting from these SNPs one could credibly argue that the ancient hunter-gatherers of Europe at the beginning of the Holocene were dark-skinned and blue-eyed! The Bronze Age European samples, which in this case are biased toward Northern Europeans, had a range of genetic variation equivalent to modern Southern Europeans. The people of the steppe did not seem to have blue eyes at all.

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These results align perfectly with those in Mathieson et al. One thing to observe is that the Paleolithic samples, which have a much deeper time depth, are “ancestral” at all these positions. Even if the sample size is small (N =4), they’re from diverse times and places. Does that mean that they were much darker than even the Holocene hunter-gatherers of Europe? As some have pointed out we can’t just straight-line extrapolate from the genetic architecture of today to the past. Remember that Neanderthals exhibited pigmentation polym]orphism, but of a different sort. A deeper functional analysis may yield the possibility that Paleolithic Europeans had alleles which also resulted in lighter skin, but they were different ones from the ones segregating as polymorphisms today. I have already stated that I doubt much of modern European ancestry derives form before the Last Glacial Maximum. The reason that modern genetic variation in terms of predicting phenotype gives these sorts of results is that they may have arrived at the same trait value via a different set of polymorphisms. Genotype-phenotype maps derived from modern populations may be a poor predictor of the relationship 30,000 years ago. Why would one think that selection upon variation in pigmentation began at the cusp of the Holocene?

But, I do think we can predict with more confidence the nature of phenotypes for populations which are genetically much closer to modern ones. Bronze Age Europeans fit that bill. And, I know something personally about what the appearance of individuals during this period might have been based on genetic architecture: both my children exhibit a genotype profile on pigmentation loci similar to many Bronze Age Europeans. That is, they’re fixed for the derived variant of SLC24A5, and are heterozygotes at SLC45A2 and OCA2-HERC2 (my son, but not my daughter, is a heterozygote at KITLG; it does seem to make a difference in hair color). In terms of just their complexion they could pass as indigenous Southern Europeans, but definitely not Northern European.

*Culture leads genes by the leash*

Another major finding of Mathieson et al. and Allentoft et al. is that the derived allele found across West Eurasians that allows them to digest lactose sugar as adults has been sweeping up in frequency over the last 4,000 years. This allele spans a diverse array of populations, from Basques to South Asians. With pigmentation it seems that we need to consider jointly the impact of ancestry and selection (in South Asia derived SLC24A5 frequencies are definitely a function of both selection and descent). But with LCT it seems likely that selection is paramount. The predominant genetic character of Eurasia was established by the Bronze Age, but the frequency of the lactase persistent allele was still far lower. Tests of natural selection which focus on patterns of haplotype variation long detected a huge hit from LCT so this is not surprising.

51r8Ph-vcaL._SY344_BO1,204,203,200_ Intriguingly Allentoft et al. indicates that though the Bronze Age steppe populations had low frequencies of the derived allele, it seems that they did have a higher frequency than contemporary populations. This suggests that the origin of this haplotype, which spans the whole range of Indo-European speaking populations, and also into Finnic groups and the Basque, may still be attributed to the Yamnaya complex. In 10,000 Year Explosion Greg Cochran proposed the hypothesis that the favored mutation for LCT enabled the spread of Indo-European pastoralists. These results are not strong support for that direct causal relationship; rather, it strikes me that the ascendancy of the pastoralists drive the selection pressures for the allele in question. Biology did not drive culture, culture drove biology. The milk-drinking Celts and Germans encountered by Julius Caesar 2,000 years ago may still have been in the middle stages of adaptation to the agro-pastoralist lifestyle slowly being perfected by their ancestors.

*As the white man is, so shall we all be*

A new look as well

A new look as well

It is a running joke of mine on Twitter that the genetics of white people is one of those fertile areas of research that seems to never end. Is it a surprise that the ancient DNA field has first elucidated the nature of this obscure foggy continent, before rich histories of the untold billions of others? It’s funny, and yet these stories, true tales, do I think tell us a great deal about how modern human populations came to be in the last 10,000 years. The lessons of Europe can be generalized. We don’t have the rich stock of ancient DNA from China, the Middle East, or India. At least not enough to do population genomics, which requires larger sample sizes than a few. But, climate permitting, we may. And when that happens I am confident that very similar stories will be told. Using extant genetics we can already infer that modern populations in South Asia are a novel configuration of genotypes and phenotypes. The same in Southeast Asia, the Americas, and probably Africa. Probably the same in East Asia. Perhaps in Oceania. Even without admixture humans evolve in situ and changed, but with admixture the variation increases, and the parameter space of adaptation becomes richer and more flexible.

In Isaac Asimov’s later Foundation books he touched upon the existence of racial diversity in the future (from what I recall his earlier works from the pulp era were whites-only galaxies). At one point Hari Seldon encounters someone whose physical appearance seems to be East Asian, and they discuss the strangeness of people with East Asian ancestry being termed “Easterners” and those with European appearance being “Westerners.” With a loss of memory of the ancient distribution of these populations on the home planet only the shadow of a semantic recollection exists as a ghost in the galaxy-spanning Empire based out of Trantor. But of course tens of thousands of years in the future, even barring genetic and mechanical modification, it is unlikely that modern racial types will persist in any way we would recognize them.

But these results coming out of ancient DNA are telling us that what is likely to be true for the far future was also true for the recent past. White Europeans are a new type. But so are brown South Asians. Ethiopians have a recent ethnogenesis, as do most North African groups. The Bantu expansion has reshaped the face of Africa on the edge of the historical horizon. And so forth. In the big picture Young Earth Creationists are wrong, but in the specifics the idea that the sons of Noah populated the world ~5,000 years ago is not looking as crazy as it once did! Human genetic variation across Eurasia today may be mostly clinal, but in the recent past it was not. Rather, it was characteristic by sharp discontinuities and isolated local populations with diverged ancestry from their neighbors.

*And culture made man in its image*

51L3op-B8fL._SY344_BO1,204,203,200_ About ten years ago it was common in paleoanthropology to assume that human beings emerged almost fully formed ~50,000 years ago, and wiped out all the others in a genocidal wave of advance. Richard Klein advanced this model in The Dawn of Human Culture. Klein’s thesis was that some stochastic event, a mutation, resulted in the punctuation of a new species, our own. This singular genetic process allowed for the emerged of fully formed linguistic faculties in our lineage, which allowed for the development of the cultural flexibility, which made the rest of the human lineages evolutionary dead ends. It was a single and elegant story. It appealed to the principle of parsimony. The reality of “archaic” admixture was a difficulty for Klein’s model, evidenced by the fact that he voiced his skepticism of genetic claims of admixture in The New York Times after most others had moved on. For Klein a biological change explained the rise and success of our species, not a cultural one.

At the time I found the thesis compelling. We were after all a very special species. Modern Homo made it to Oceania and the New World. Something must have happened. Something big. What else could explain our rapid expansion and marginalization of other lineages? I’m a biologist, and so biology is an appealing causal mechanism.

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*The luck of the English facing the ocean*

At about the same time the evidence for Neanderthal admixture came out, Luke Jostins posted results which showed that other human lineages were also undergoing encephalization, before their trajectory was cut short. That is, their brains were getting bigger before they went extinct. To me this suggested that the broader Homo lineage was undergoing a process of nearly inevitable change due to a series of evolutionary events very deep in our history, perhaps ancestral on the order of millions of years. Along with the evidence for admixture it made me reconsider my priors. Perhaps some Homo lineage was going to expand outward and do what we did, and perhaps it wasn’t inevitable that it was going to be us. Perhaps the Neanderthal Parallax scenario is not as fantastical as we might think?

41z97bDZvUL._SY344_BO1,204,203,200_ Consider the case of Europe around 1600. In England and northern Germany (or what was to become northern Germany) you have two Protestant and genetically similar populations. But by 1850 it looked as if England was going to demographically overtake Germany in a broader genetic sense. James Belich’s Replenishing the Earth reviews the history of this period, when England spearheaded a demographic revolution far out of proportion to what one might have predicted in the year 1000. But by 2000 Germany, or Germans, had caught up somewhat. How? Millions of Germans migrated to the United States, starting in very large numbers in the mid-19th century, and were “picked up” by the demographic revolution which was the United States. The point is that contigencies of history, cultural and social, rather than biology, explain the trajectory of the gene pool over time. Much of the human past, and the sharp fluctuations in gene frequencies, might be driven by the long and forceful arm of culture.

In the treatment above I note that the EEF farmers who by and large replaced the indigenous hunter-gatherer groups in modern Southern Europe were themselves a compound. The hunter-gatherer ancestry within the EEF was far more successful than that of those they replaced, but the only reason that this was so was geographic coincidence. The WHG-like groups absorbed into the EEF were positioned further east, and so closer to the initial locus of expansion of Neolithic farmers. Similarly, the Neanderthal admixture into modern populations was almost certainly localized to particular groups. This is not to say that there are no biological differences between human populations which may explain a wide range of phenomena. Anyone looking at the skull of a Neanderthal and a modern human knows there are. There are also likely bio-behavioral differences between extent populations. Gene-culture coevolution is a real process, even if the details need to be worked out. But the interplay between biology and culture is complex, and in many cases cultural changes are driving the biological change, and then fixing differences which are advantageous to the “winners” (lactase persistence seems rather to be a perfect case of this). But just as in the individual case we must also remember that winning is often in part a function of being lucky. Naturally selection, generally thought of as a deterministic process, is also to some extent stochastic[4].

*From genetic islands to a roiling sea of humans*

One of the most shocking things for many of the geneticists working in the area of ancient DNA, and encountering the variation of the past, is the high level of population structure. That is, you have groups co-resident for many generations who nevertheless exhibit genetic distances of intercontinental scale. But as I stated above David Reich himself found the same results for India. And, in Africa you have long symbiotic populations, such as the pygmy groups of the Congo, and their agricultural neighbors, who are genetically very different, and have been for tens of thousands of years. Allentoft et al. dryly observe that “These results are indicative of significant temporal shifts in the gene pools and also reveal that the ancient groups of Eurasia were genetically more structured than contemporary populations.”

castesofmind About 10 years ago I read Nicholas Dirks’ Castes of Mind. Dirks is an eminent scholar who is now the chancellor of UC Berkeley. He emphasizes the power of European categories and systematization in creating the modern caste system. I don’t want to reduce his argument to a caricature. Obviously caste predates European colonialism. Dirks would admit this. But in Castes of Mind it is hard to shake the feeling that he believes that the British imposition of formalization made it what we truly understand it to be today. That caste has to be understood as a contemporary and early modern phenomenon, rather than an ancient one that was a structural feature of South Asian society.

The genetic evidence is clear now, and it paints a very different landscape. Many of the caste, even jati, boundaries we see today are thousands of years old. Endogamy long predates the British. It may predate the Aryans! Rather than the British, or Aryans, inventing caste, this form of ethnic segregation may date to the initial admixture event, to be reinvented and modified with each new population which arrives and imposes its hegemony on the subcontinent. In The New York Times David Reich states “You have groups which are as genetically distinct as Europeans and East Asians. And they’re living side by side for thousands of years.” He then he goes on to say “There’s a breakdown of these cultural barriers, and they mix,” alluding to the rise in WHG ancestry in farmer samples over time. Of course it is interesting to remember Reich’s work on India has highlighted exactly how persistent caste has been, and how it maintains genetic variation in a localized region that is often nearly inter-continental in magnitude.

We can never know if 6,000 years ago the LBK people, the first farming culture of Northern Europe, imposed a caste-like system of segregation when encountering the indigenous hunter-gatherers. Nor can we say with total confidence whether their relationship exhibited a symbiosis analogous to that between the Bantu agriculturalists and pygmies of the Congo (though do note that in these scenarios the Bantu communities are higher status, and the individual pygmies often have a semi-slave status). But, we need to look to what cultural evolutionary models and empirical results can tell us to make sense of these patterns. Ancient DNA can tell us very concretely the details of changes in allele frequencies. We can somewhat confidently reconstruct the faces and complexions of our ancestors. The questions population genomicists ask and answer in relation to animal models are relatively cleanly addressed by these data sets, assuming the sample sizes are large enough. But humans are the cultural animal par excellence, and that is the critical new variable which will require a new set of scholars to come together and create a truly multi-disciplinary understanding of the human past, present, and perhaps future. Powerful genomic techniques which produce results which have implications for the study of human history needs to leverage the full array of scholars who study human historical science.

1 – The three-fold copying is an important matter, because the different cultures had different preferences and goals. The Arab effort for example focused mostly on the philosophical production of the ancients. Without the Byzantines we would have far less of the humanistic production of Classical Greece, in particular the theatrical tradition.

2 – Much of what is known about the diplomatic history of the Bronze Age Near East has been preserved in cuneiform tablets. Though unwieldy, this form of writing on clay tablets is obviously more robust and less dependent upon copying than parchment and papyrus which came later.

3 – I would be curious to know if it is the same haplotype as is currently common in Eurasia.

4 – New mutations will usually go extinct, even if they are favored, in the initial generations. It is only when the frequency becomes high enough due to chance that selection will inevitably drive its frequency up, perhaps to fixation.

 
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  2. Matt_ says:

    Re: the structure of ancient populations, one of the phenomena I think which underlies and is relevant to this may be going from a high drift to low drift world, with a great expansion of populations with farming (and maybe also paleolithic-mesolithic changes).

    Like, from Allentoft 2015, if you look at the Extended Data Figure 5 in Allentoft et al, you see an FST differentiation of 0.07 between Hunter North (Scandinavian HGs) and Hunter West (the Western European Hunter Gatherers). That’s the same as between the 1000 Genomes Tamil from India and Japanese, as given there.

    Yet if you look in their Supplementary Table 11, which provides outgroup f3 statistics as a measure of population differentiation which is much less affected by drift specific to each population (per the paper “Unlike methods based on pairwise distances such as FST, genetic drift specific to Population1 or Population2 does not affect this statistic”), HW and HN are actually the closest of all the populations in the ancient series, and only recent Siberian Hunter Gatherers with ancient paleo-eskimos get close. Closer than the Neolithic farmers are to one another, closer than Bell Beaker to Corded Ware.

    What this says to me is that, although ancient differentiation and structure was high, this may have been mainly because a much small population within each deme had much higher levels of drift (as we see among Native Americans and also Siberians with small populations). Not necessarily from low levels of deme-to-deme contact relative to today.

    While today, in the driftless world, you may have populations which barely exchange genes, and may be evolving very separately (perhaps more separately than the ancients), but because they are each large, and have high internal diversity, the drift from one another, and thus population structure, is very low. The rise of self conscious ethnic religions and nations in the Holocene perhaps relates to this (plus with larger populations, there is less “need” to travel further to mate, etc.). This might need some work imputing population sizes of present day and ancient populations and comparing drift to expected drift for that population size to look at.

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    good point. but please note that if the pops were very small and drifting the gene flow necessary to prevent divergence from each other is concomitantly lower. so the fact that drift was diverging them fast illustrates that gene flow was low in the very patchy landscape. (stylized fact is that you need 1 migrant between two demes per generation to prevent them from drifting apart)
  3. Random says:

    Excellent article. It did spark a recollection of German genes and culture in North America bifurcating at the annihilation of German culture due to WWI:

    http://www.loc.gov/teachers/classroommaterials/presentationsandactivities/presentations/immigration/german8.html

    I was also reminded of the migrations of the Hebrews who have had several different geographic centers of gravity, some reoccupied, over the last 3,000 years and formed outlaying groups as far away as the east coast of China in the early Middle Ages (via Radanite merchants).

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  4. Clathrus says:

    A solid article. Will take a while to digest. I really haven’t read widely enough.

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  5. The Gokturk Empire map source, for anyone interested, is here. Oddly, applying google’s search-by-image to the full size version failed, but worked on the thumbnail in the text. I found it early in a direct google image search for “gokturk empire.”

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  6. @Matt_
    Re: the structure of ancient populations, one of the phenomena I think which underlies and is relevant to this may be going from a high drift to low drift world, with a great expansion of populations with farming (and maybe also paleolithic-mesolithic changes).

    Like, from Allentoft 2015, if you look at the Extended Data Figure 5 in Allentoft et al, you see an FST differentiation of 0.07 between Hunter North (Scandinavian HGs) and Hunter West (the Western European Hunter Gatherers). That's the same as between the 1000 Genomes Tamil from India and Japanese, as given there.

    Yet if you look in their Supplementary Table 11, which provides outgroup f3 statistics as a measure of population differentiation which is much less affected by drift specific to each population (per the paper "Unlike methods based on pairwise distances such as FST, genetic drift specific to Population1 or Population2 does not affect this statistic"), HW and HN are actually the closest of all the populations in the ancient series, and only recent Siberian Hunter Gatherers with ancient paleo-eskimos get close. Closer than the Neolithic farmers are to one another, closer than Bell Beaker to Corded Ware.

    What this says to me is that, although ancient differentiation and structure was high, this may have been mainly because a much small population within each deme had much higher levels of drift (as we see among Native Americans and also Siberians with small populations). Not necessarily from low levels of deme-to-deme contact relative to today.

    While today, in the driftless world, you may have populations which barely exchange genes, and may be evolving very separately (perhaps more separately than the ancients), but because they are each large, and have high internal diversity, the drift from one another, and thus population structure, is very low. The rise of self conscious ethnic religions and nations in the Holocene perhaps relates to this (plus with larger populations, there is less "need" to travel further to mate, etc.). This might need some work imputing population sizes of present day and ancient populations and comparing drift to expected drift for that population size to look at.

    good point. but please note that if the pops were very small and drifting the gene flow necessary to prevent divergence from each other is concomitantly lower. so the fact that drift was diverging them fast illustrates that gene flow was low in the very patchy landscape. (stylized fact is that you need 1 migrant between two demes per generation to prevent them from drifting apart)

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  7. Wow, Finns really have a noticeably higher genetic distance from other European populations? Can I assume that the “in most cases” in that sentence tacitly excludes small populations such as the Saami? I won’t ask about Estonians. What about Hungarians? They are genetically more of a typical European population? So one might guess/surmise that modern Hungarians have less genetic ancestry from Old Magyar conquerors and more from pre-Magyar Pannonian peasants, while Finns have more genes directly from their linguistic ancestors?

    I’m surprised because Finns never strike me as phenotypically different from other Europeans. I realise that can be deceptive. Those tricky, tricky Finns!

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    the issue with the finns is a bottleneck. that elevates their drift. if you correct for that their major distinctiveness is

    1) less EEF (farmer)
    2) the siberian component

    the saami have more of #2.

    hungarians seem mostly similar to the slavs.
    , @ohwilleke
    * The Hungarians are one of the most stark examples of language shift to an entirely different macro-language family (Uralic) with very little demographic impact, and took place in the second half of the first millenium CE.

    * The genetic ancestors of the Finns that make them distinctive (basically Mesolithic Northern European Hunter-Gatherers) are not their linguistic ancestors. For reasons that I explore in a blog post at http://dispatchesfromturtleisland.blogspot.com/2014/08/finland-from-its-prehistory-to-modern.html it appears that the Finnish language dates to only about 1500 BCE, at a time when many of the elements that make Finnish population genetics distinct were already in place.

    Before that, Finns probably spoke an Indo-European language related to that spoken by people of the Corded Ware culture with a language shift taking place sometime in the time range of 3200 BCE to 2500 BCE.

    The pre-Indo-European language of the Finns is probably forever lost, any remnant of it would have to survive only in a twice removed substrate of modern Finnish.
  8. @Greg Pandatshang
    Wow, Finns really have a noticeably higher genetic distance from other European populations? Can I assume that the "in most cases" in that sentence tacitly excludes small populations such as the Saami? I won't ask about Estonians. What about Hungarians? They are genetically more of a typical European population? So one might guess/surmise that modern Hungarians have less genetic ancestry from Old Magyar conquerors and more from pre-Magyar Pannonian peasants, while Finns have more genes directly from their linguistic ancestors?

    I'm surprised because Finns never strike me as phenotypically different from other Europeans. I realise that can be deceptive. Those tricky, tricky Finns!

    the issue with the finns is a bottleneck. that elevates their drift. if you correct for that their major distinctiveness is

    1) less EEF (farmer)
    2) the siberian component

    the saami have more of #2.

    hungarians seem mostly similar to the slavs.

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  9. Yudi says:

    Incredible. I know many have begged you over the years to write a book, but this post really shows why you need to do that, at least at some point.

    I have a few questions and comments:

    1) ” The figure from Haak et al does not use admixture components that break out naturally, but their inferred demographic mixes taking into account the genetic character of the putative ancestral populations. The blue component refers to WHG, but WHG-like ancestry is also in both the green (Yamnaya) and orange (EEF) elements (this is why I’m saying it is likely that modern Europeans are mostly >50% WHG-like).”

    Thank you for explaining this figure from Haak et al, because I have been wondering about it for awhile. Just to clarify, then, does the blue WHG ancestry shown in (say) the English in that diagram refer to WHGs that lived *in England itself* and became part of the modern English, whereas WHG picked up by EEF is shown in the orange EEF section?

    2) “Allentoft et al. has broader Eurasian samples, including likely Indo-European populations in the trans-Ural and trans-Altai regions. In both of these areas the successor cultures had EEF-like ancestry. That is, like the Corded Ware population, and unlike the parent Yamnaya group. This strongly implies back-migration by this complex from Eastern Europe, as far east as western China, during the Bronze Age.”

    This point isn’t quite clear to me either, and I don’t have access to the Allentoft paper. According to it, who back-migrated to/from where? Did Corded Ware people go to the Altai and Ural regions?

    3) Regarding the IE expansion and David Anthony’s comments, do you think his elite dominance model is still salvageable for southern Europe? There is less Yamnaya admixture there, and there were non-IE groups in areas of southern Europe well into the Iron Age, implying that the completion of Indo-Europeanization was more due to the contingent historical phenomenon of Rome’s success. (Perhaps Romans had higher LCT rates than non-IEs, a la Tutsis/Hutus? Has anyone looked?) In general, the whole southerly aspect of the IE expansion (S. Europe, Iran, India, the Balkans, and Anatolia) is still virtually untouched by ancient DNA researchers, and will probably be the hardest part to unravel.

    4) “Why would one think that selection upon variation in pigmentation began at the cusp of the Holocene?”

    Well, the Inuit live further north than most Europeans, and yet are darker than them (though lighter than most Native Americans). Quite probably, diet affected Vitamin D intake; HGs may not have been so dependent on sunlight to get it. I do think it is telling that this gene was apparently selected for in early farmers from the Middle East, i.e., people living in an even sunnier and more southerly place than most of Europe, who also had relatively poor diets. Still, more research on divergent paths to depigmentation among Paleolithic European HGs would be very productive.

    5) “Intriguingly Allentoft et al. indicates that though the Bronze Age steppe populations had low frequencies of the derived allele, it seems that they did have a higher frequency than contemporary populations.”

    How do you think this compares to Haak et al’s completely negative finding of LCT among the Yamnaya? What might account for the discrepancy?

    6) Regarding cultural evolution and its role in the success of groups, have you heard about the upcoming book “The Secret of Our Success” by Joseph Henrich (the author of Foundations of Human Sociality)? http://www.amazon.com/Secret-Our-Success-Evolution-Domesticating/dp/0691166854/

    Apparently he will be tackling these and other questions regarding the role of cultural evolution in human history. Here is a video of him talking in March 2015 about matter which he says will be addressed in his “upcoming book.” He discusses the role of monogamy and outbreeding in cultural group selection and in the creation of WEIRD people: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV1LRsI0ybA

    This book sounds like it will be a culmination of a lot of the cultural evolution research that’s been undertaken in the last couple decades, as well as answering your call for more culturally-informed explanations for human evolutionary change. It’s definitely on my to-read list.

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    Thank you for explaining this figure from Haak et al, because I have been wondering about it for awhile. Just to clarify, then, does the blue WHG ancestry shown in (say) the English in that diagram refer to WHGs that lived *in England itself* and became part of the modern English, whereas WHG picked up by EEF is shown in the orange EEF section?

    not necessarily, but perhaps. i think perhaps not though, otherwise we'd see a section on the local structure that persists? the issue is that EEF is mixed up. the blue WHG is stuff that came in later and added to a well mixed EEF substrate. by analogy, south asians are 50% west eurasian and 50% not west eurasian. i'm pretty much around there aside from the 15% east asian. so my kids are 70% or so west eurasian, but really it is easier to break out the south asian from the european.

    This point isn’t quite clear to me either, and I don’t have access to the Allentoft paper. According to it, who back-migrated to/from where? Did Corded Ware people go to the Altai and Ural regions?

    there is EEF-like ancestry in the ural region and beyond. not present in yamnaya. some one inference is that post-yamnaya european group migrated back. or, EEF was on the steppe.

    Regarding the IE expansion and David Anthony’s comments, do you think his elite dominance model is still salvageable for southern Europe? There is less Yamnaya admixture there, and there were non-IE groups in areas of southern Europe well into the Iron Age, implying that the completion of Indo-Europeanization was more due to the contingent historical phenomenon of Rome’s success. (Perhaps Romans had higher LCT rates than non-IEs, a la Tutsis/Hutus? Has anyone looked?) In general, the whole southerly aspect of the IE expansion (S. Europe, Iran, India, the Balkans, and Anatolia) is still virtually untouched by ancient DNA researchers, and will probably be the hardest part to unravel.

    yes, this is unclear. i think anatolia will be good. though allentoft paper had ancient armenians, and they look like modern armenians. ancient as in bronze age. there are samples from spain so they'll probably come out of greece and italy (this one had some italian samples). the basque have ANE-like ancestry, so there must have been some gene flow after the initial waves coming in.

    i think some sort of more complex model of indo-europeanization may be salvageable or possible. it's confused. the researcher who points out that greek is way too diverged from balto-slavic-germanic in 1500 BCE if indo-europeans only showed up in early ~2500 BCE sounds right to me. also, kalash and armenians don't have EEF, so the steppe migrations diverged at some point.

    How do you think this compares to Haak et al’s completely negative finding of LCT among the Yamnaya? What might account for the discrepancy?


    low sample sizes. i believe you didn't get a hit for LCT in a lot of individuals. ancient and degraded.

    6) Regarding cultural evolution and its role in the success of groups, have you heard about the upcoming book “The Secret of Our Success” by Joseph Henrich (the author of Foundations of Human Sociality)? http://www.amazon.com/Secret-Our-Success-Evolution-Domesticating/dp/0691166854/

    yes. been keeping track of his research since 2004! there's a reason he's moved to harvard!
    , @Razib Khan
    btw the link i provided should allow you to read, if not copy, the latest paper from allentoft et al

    http://www.nature.com/articles/nature14317.epdf?referrer_access_token=XLqAYn7fHKVAHQ1DPSqJlNRgN0jAjWel9jnR3ZoTv0Pp60Qt_x2EIKCBsT-Ant7nQmJ6WsC7MN8BEbK44DH3tAJJSioK0v_t5dXCRw1SOT4Ti3P0v-iG7O7bK9xEx5ehsTixcfEtCnst6sOg6WUgv_FmUqPlgd_maC8U-gNPzuOpcaaVZxLY4UBnl0nRj57yKSXrWBaMQE3RAiOWc0llGQ%3D%3D&tracking_referrer=www.nature.com
    , @vinteuil
    I agree that RK should try his hand at a book. If he came out with a popularly accessible summary of what we now know (or can reasonably guess) about human prehistory, I'd be first in line to buy a copy.

    But he will need a co-author - or, at the very least, an editor willing and able to stand up to him. I mean, this sort of thing:

    "What Cavalli-Sforza did was bring genetic science toward addressing more contemporary phenomena, to answer questions which come to the cusp of the present, tackling issues of relevance to living human people on the scale of nations and peoples..."

    ...really badly needs rewriting.

    I wonder if John Derbyshire might be available...
  10. @Yudi
    Incredible. I know many have begged you over the years to write a book, but this post really shows why you need to do that, at least at some point.

    I have a few questions and comments:

    1) " The figure from Haak et al does not use admixture components that break out naturally, but their inferred demographic mixes taking into account the genetic character of the putative ancestral populations. The blue component refers to WHG, but WHG-like ancestry is also in both the green (Yamnaya) and orange (EEF) elements (this is why I’m saying it is likely that modern Europeans are mostly >50% WHG-like)."

    Thank you for explaining this figure from Haak et al, because I have been wondering about it for awhile. Just to clarify, then, does the blue WHG ancestry shown in (say) the English in that diagram refer to WHGs that lived *in England itself* and became part of the modern English, whereas WHG picked up by EEF is shown in the orange EEF section?

    2) "Allentoft et al. has broader Eurasian samples, including likely Indo-European populations in the trans-Ural and trans-Altai regions. In both of these areas the successor cultures had EEF-like ancestry. That is, like the Corded Ware population, and unlike the parent Yamnaya group. This strongly implies back-migration by this complex from Eastern Europe, as far east as western China, during the Bronze Age."

    This point isn't quite clear to me either, and I don't have access to the Allentoft paper. According to it, who back-migrated to/from where? Did Corded Ware people go to the Altai and Ural regions?

    3) Regarding the IE expansion and David Anthony's comments, do you think his elite dominance model is still salvageable for southern Europe? There is less Yamnaya admixture there, and there were non-IE groups in areas of southern Europe well into the Iron Age, implying that the completion of Indo-Europeanization was more due to the contingent historical phenomenon of Rome's success. (Perhaps Romans had higher LCT rates than non-IEs, a la Tutsis/Hutus? Has anyone looked?) In general, the whole southerly aspect of the IE expansion (S. Europe, Iran, India, the Balkans, and Anatolia) is still virtually untouched by ancient DNA researchers, and will probably be the hardest part to unravel.

    4) "Why would one think that selection upon variation in pigmentation began at the cusp of the Holocene?"

    Well, the Inuit live further north than most Europeans, and yet are darker than them (though lighter than most Native Americans). Quite probably, diet affected Vitamin D intake; HGs may not have been so dependent on sunlight to get it. I do think it is telling that this gene was apparently selected for in early farmers from the Middle East, i.e., people living in an even sunnier and more southerly place than most of Europe, who also had relatively poor diets. Still, more research on divergent paths to depigmentation among Paleolithic European HGs would be very productive.

    5) "Intriguingly Allentoft et al. indicates that though the Bronze Age steppe populations had low frequencies of the derived allele, it seems that they did have a higher frequency than contemporary populations."

    How do you think this compares to Haak et al's completely negative finding of LCT among the Yamnaya? What might account for the discrepancy?

    6) Regarding cultural evolution and its role in the success of groups, have you heard about the upcoming book "The Secret of Our Success" by Joseph Henrich (the author of Foundations of Human Sociality)? http://www.amazon.com/Secret-Our-Success-Evolution-Domesticating/dp/0691166854/

    Apparently he will be tackling these and other questions regarding the role of cultural evolution in human history. Here is a video of him talking in March 2015 about matter which he says will be addressed in his "upcoming book." He discusses the role of monogamy and outbreeding in cultural group selection and in the creation of WEIRD people: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV1LRsI0ybA

    This book sounds like it will be a culmination of a lot of the cultural evolution research that's been undertaken in the last couple decades, as well as answering your call for more culturally-informed explanations for human evolutionary change. It's definitely on my to-read list.

    Thank you for explaining this figure from Haak et al, because I have been wondering about it for awhile. Just to clarify, then, does the blue WHG ancestry shown in (say) the English in that diagram refer to WHGs that lived *in England itself* and became part of the modern English, whereas WHG picked up by EEF is shown in the orange EEF section?

    not necessarily, but perhaps. i think perhaps not though, otherwise we’d see a section on the local structure that persists? the issue is that EEF is mixed up. the blue WHG is stuff that came in later and added to a well mixed EEF substrate. by analogy, south asians are 50% west eurasian and 50% not west eurasian. i’m pretty much around there aside from the 15% east asian. so my kids are 70% or so west eurasian, but really it is easier to break out the south asian from the european.

    This point isn’t quite clear to me either, and I don’t have access to the Allentoft paper. According to it, who back-migrated to/from where? Did Corded Ware people go to the Altai and Ural regions?

    there is EEF-like ancestry in the ural region and beyond. not present in yamnaya. some one inference is that post-yamnaya european group migrated back. or, EEF was on the steppe.

    Regarding the IE expansion and David Anthony’s comments, do you think his elite dominance model is still salvageable for southern Europe? There is less Yamnaya admixture there, and there were non-IE groups in areas of southern Europe well into the Iron Age, implying that the completion of Indo-Europeanization was more due to the contingent historical phenomenon of Rome’s success. (Perhaps Romans had higher LCT rates than non-IEs, a la Tutsis/Hutus? Has anyone looked?) In general, the whole southerly aspect of the IE expansion (S. Europe, Iran, India, the Balkans, and Anatolia) is still virtually untouched by ancient DNA researchers, and will probably be the hardest part to unravel.

    yes, this is unclear. i think anatolia will be good. though allentoft paper had ancient armenians, and they look like modern armenians. ancient as in bronze age. there are samples from spain so they’ll probably come out of greece and italy (this one had some italian samples). the basque have ANE-like ancestry, so there must have been some gene flow after the initial waves coming in.

    i think some sort of more complex model of indo-europeanization may be salvageable or possible. it’s confused. the researcher who points out that greek is way too diverged from balto-slavic-germanic in 1500 BCE if indo-europeans only showed up in early ~2500 BCE sounds right to me. also, kalash and armenians don’t have EEF, so the steppe migrations diverged at some point.

    How do you think this compares to Haak et al’s completely negative finding of LCT among the Yamnaya? What might account for the discrepancy?

    low sample sizes. i believe you didn’t get a hit for LCT in a lot of individuals. ancient and degraded.

    6) Regarding cultural evolution and its role in the success of groups, have you heard about the upcoming book “The Secret of Our Success” by Joseph Henrich (the author of Foundations of Human Sociality)? http://www.amazon.com/Secret-Our-Success-Evolution-Domesticating/dp/0691166854/

    yes. been keeping track of his research since 2004! there’s a reason he’s moved to harvard!

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    Thank you for your extensive reply and link to the Allentoft paper.

    "the blue WHG is stuff that came in later and added to a well mixed EEF substrate."

    So, would this have happened during the time after the initial EEF push in which HG ancestry increased in frequency across Europe?

    "some one inference is that post-yamnaya european group migrated back. or, EEF was on the steppe."

    Interesting. Given how demographically successful the first farmers were, I would not rule out EEF going eastward and northward onto the steppe. On the other hand, much has been made, in light of this finding, of the linguistic connections between Balto-Slavic and Indo-Iranian. And we should never forget that there were surely branches of Indo-European languages that were never committed to writing before going extinct. As always, more research is needed! We live in interesting times, and scientific preprints and posts like yours help laypeople like us feel some small slice of the awe and fascination that the scientists making all these discoveries must experience.

    "i think anatolia will be good."

    Turkey has a pretty good antiquities program, doesn't it? Unfortunately, anything in the Middle East, such as Iran, might be harder to access. What do you think it would take to convince skeptics of the steppe hypothesis? A clear change in material culture at the same time as Yamnaya genetic material appeared in people? Alternatively, what ancient DNA evidence would prove (or at least strongly hint) that the IE expansion was more complicated than the canonical steppe hypothesis predicts? In some ways things are much easier to explain when they just drive out the previous inhabitants!

    Regarding Henrich's upcoming book, I should point out that I learned about it due to you--I look at the work of a lot of the scientists and historians you link to on your goodreads page.

  11. @Yudi
    Incredible. I know many have begged you over the years to write a book, but this post really shows why you need to do that, at least at some point.

    I have a few questions and comments:

    1) " The figure from Haak et al does not use admixture components that break out naturally, but their inferred demographic mixes taking into account the genetic character of the putative ancestral populations. The blue component refers to WHG, but WHG-like ancestry is also in both the green (Yamnaya) and orange (EEF) elements (this is why I’m saying it is likely that modern Europeans are mostly >50% WHG-like)."

    Thank you for explaining this figure from Haak et al, because I have been wondering about it for awhile. Just to clarify, then, does the blue WHG ancestry shown in (say) the English in that diagram refer to WHGs that lived *in England itself* and became part of the modern English, whereas WHG picked up by EEF is shown in the orange EEF section?

    2) "Allentoft et al. has broader Eurasian samples, including likely Indo-European populations in the trans-Ural and trans-Altai regions. In both of these areas the successor cultures had EEF-like ancestry. That is, like the Corded Ware population, and unlike the parent Yamnaya group. This strongly implies back-migration by this complex from Eastern Europe, as far east as western China, during the Bronze Age."

    This point isn't quite clear to me either, and I don't have access to the Allentoft paper. According to it, who back-migrated to/from where? Did Corded Ware people go to the Altai and Ural regions?

    3) Regarding the IE expansion and David Anthony's comments, do you think his elite dominance model is still salvageable for southern Europe? There is less Yamnaya admixture there, and there were non-IE groups in areas of southern Europe well into the Iron Age, implying that the completion of Indo-Europeanization was more due to the contingent historical phenomenon of Rome's success. (Perhaps Romans had higher LCT rates than non-IEs, a la Tutsis/Hutus? Has anyone looked?) In general, the whole southerly aspect of the IE expansion (S. Europe, Iran, India, the Balkans, and Anatolia) is still virtually untouched by ancient DNA researchers, and will probably be the hardest part to unravel.

    4) "Why would one think that selection upon variation in pigmentation began at the cusp of the Holocene?"

    Well, the Inuit live further north than most Europeans, and yet are darker than them (though lighter than most Native Americans). Quite probably, diet affected Vitamin D intake; HGs may not have been so dependent on sunlight to get it. I do think it is telling that this gene was apparently selected for in early farmers from the Middle East, i.e., people living in an even sunnier and more southerly place than most of Europe, who also had relatively poor diets. Still, more research on divergent paths to depigmentation among Paleolithic European HGs would be very productive.

    5) "Intriguingly Allentoft et al. indicates that though the Bronze Age steppe populations had low frequencies of the derived allele, it seems that they did have a higher frequency than contemporary populations."

    How do you think this compares to Haak et al's completely negative finding of LCT among the Yamnaya? What might account for the discrepancy?

    6) Regarding cultural evolution and its role in the success of groups, have you heard about the upcoming book "The Secret of Our Success" by Joseph Henrich (the author of Foundations of Human Sociality)? http://www.amazon.com/Secret-Our-Success-Evolution-Domesticating/dp/0691166854/

    Apparently he will be tackling these and other questions regarding the role of cultural evolution in human history. Here is a video of him talking in March 2015 about matter which he says will be addressed in his "upcoming book." He discusses the role of monogamy and outbreeding in cultural group selection and in the creation of WEIRD people: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV1LRsI0ybA

    This book sounds like it will be a culmination of a lot of the cultural evolution research that's been undertaken in the last couple decades, as well as answering your call for more culturally-informed explanations for human evolutionary change. It's definitely on my to-read list.
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  12. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Not remotely central to your piece, which is fascinating and I shall need to read and reread, but the question of narrative literature in prehistoric Greece: analysis of the language of Homeric formulae has been used to argue that some of these building blocks of Homeric verse go back hundreds and hundreds of years, and there are parallels in the artefacts that feature in the poems, spears and shields deriving from wildly disparate periods of Bronze Age and Iron Age Greece. The implication is that the dactylic hexameter had been chanted, and heroic tales composed since, well, before the supposed date of the Trojan War, at least.

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    the ability of brahmins to preserve oral aspects of post-vedic culture is pretty incredible too from what i recall.
  13. @Anonymous
    Not remotely central to your piece, which is fascinating and I shall need to read and reread, but the question of narrative literature in prehistoric Greece: analysis of the language of Homeric formulae has been used to argue that some of these building blocks of Homeric verse go back hundreds and hundreds of years, and there are parallels in the artefacts that feature in the poems, spears and shields deriving from wildly disparate periods of Bronze Age and Iron Age Greece. The implication is that the dactylic hexameter had been chanted, and heroic tales composed since, well, before the supposed date of the Trojan War, at least.

    the ability of brahmins to preserve oral aspects of post-vedic culture is pretty incredible too from what i recall.

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  14. ohwilleke says: • Website
    @Greg Pandatshang
    Wow, Finns really have a noticeably higher genetic distance from other European populations? Can I assume that the "in most cases" in that sentence tacitly excludes small populations such as the Saami? I won't ask about Estonians. What about Hungarians? They are genetically more of a typical European population? So one might guess/surmise that modern Hungarians have less genetic ancestry from Old Magyar conquerors and more from pre-Magyar Pannonian peasants, while Finns have more genes directly from their linguistic ancestors?

    I'm surprised because Finns never strike me as phenotypically different from other Europeans. I realise that can be deceptive. Those tricky, tricky Finns!

    * The Hungarians are one of the most stark examples of language shift to an entirely different macro-language family (Uralic) with very little demographic impact, and took place in the second half of the first millenium CE.

    * The genetic ancestors of the Finns that make them distinctive (basically Mesolithic Northern European Hunter-Gatherers) are not their linguistic ancestors. For reasons that I explore in a blog post at http://dispatchesfromturtleisland.blogspot.com/2014/08/finland-from-its-prehistory-to-modern.html it appears that the Finnish language dates to only about 1500 BCE, at a time when many of the elements that make Finnish population genetics distinct were already in place.

    Before that, Finns probably spoke an Indo-European language related to that spoken by people of the Corded Ware culture with a language shift taking place sometime in the time range of 3200 BCE to 2500 BCE.

    The pre-Indo-European language of the Finns is probably forever lost, any remnant of it would have to survive only in a twice removed substrate of modern Finnish.

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    There seems to be sn inconsistency between your references to 1500 BCE and to 3200 to 2500 BCE. What have I misunderstood?
  15. @ohwilleke
    * The Hungarians are one of the most stark examples of language shift to an entirely different macro-language family (Uralic) with very little demographic impact, and took place in the second half of the first millenium CE.

    * The genetic ancestors of the Finns that make them distinctive (basically Mesolithic Northern European Hunter-Gatherers) are not their linguistic ancestors. For reasons that I explore in a blog post at http://dispatchesfromturtleisland.blogspot.com/2014/08/finland-from-its-prehistory-to-modern.html it appears that the Finnish language dates to only about 1500 BCE, at a time when many of the elements that make Finnish population genetics distinct were already in place.

    Before that, Finns probably spoke an Indo-European language related to that spoken by people of the Corded Ware culture with a language shift taking place sometime in the time range of 3200 BCE to 2500 BCE.

    The pre-Indo-European language of the Finns is probably forever lost, any remnant of it would have to survive only in a twice removed substrate of modern Finnish.

    There seems to be sn inconsistency between your references to 1500 BCE and to 3200 to 2500 BCE. What have I misunderstood?

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    greeks show up in 1500 bc in written record. corded ware show up ~2500 BC. if corded ware/bell beaker responsible for ALL IE in europe, then greek seems too diverged.
    , @ohwilleke
    1500BCE to 2015 CE: Finnish, a Uralic language and Saami, another Uralic language closely related to Finnish, spoken in Finland. Arrives from the East.

    2500 BCE to 1500 BCE: Corded Ware language (Indo-European and probably most closely related to the Indo-European Baltic languages today), spoken in Finland. Arrives from the South. The 2500 BCE date is approximate and could be as early as 3200 BCE.

    8000 BCE to 2500 BCE -- Mesolithic Hunter Gatherer language(s) (entire language family now lost to history apart from a handful of possible place names) spoken in Finland. The end date could be as early as 3200 BCE instead of 2500 BCE.
  16. @Wizard of Oz
    There seems to be sn inconsistency between your references to 1500 BCE and to 3200 to 2500 BCE. What have I misunderstood?

    greeks show up in 1500 bc in written record. corded ware show up ~2500 BC. if corded ware/bell beaker responsible for ALL IE in europe, then greek seems too diverged.

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    Different point (I think) Razib. ohwilleke was writing about the Finns and you will find the explanation for my being puzzled by apparent inconsistency if you read his post.
  17. @Razib Khan
    greeks show up in 1500 bc in written record. corded ware show up ~2500 BC. if corded ware/bell beaker responsible for ALL IE in europe, then greek seems too diverged.

    Different point (I think) Razib. ohwilleke was writing about the Finns and you will find the explanation for my being puzzled by apparent inconsistency if you read his post.

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  18. Bill P says:

    So much food for thought here. I really, deeply appreciate your efforts writing on Unz Review, Razib. And I, for one, find your language very accessible and familiar. Don’t even think about toning it down — just let it flow as it comes. You have a particular way of putting things that’s all your own, which is a rare thing these days.

    Since you’ve focused a lot on pigmentation here, I’d like to ask whether the original Indo-European people couldn’t have been rather heterogeneous in this regard. It’s my amateur hypothesis that the Indo-European people were originally a tribal confederation sort of like the Sioux or Iroquois, possibly made up of various tribes from the periphery of the steppe region that included people from north and south, east and west.

    Couldn’t some of them have been fair haired, some dark-eyed, and others different? My wife is a dark-eyed, fair-haired bronze-skinned Balt, and I jokingly call her “cow-eyed Hera” (she is beautiful to me like that), and there are those in my family on all sides with all sorts of various colorations. My sister is a blue-eyed light blonde with alabaster skin, yet my mother is olive-skinned with hazel eyes. My father was lily-white with black hair and deep blue eyes, I have fair skin, light brown hair, blue eyes and a red beard, and my children have blue, green and hazel eyes and from very fair to quite tan skin, and are all blond (so far).

    Maybe I’m going out on a limb here, but isn’t it possible that one of the strengths of the Indo-Europeans was that they comprised a composite population that allowed them to form new composite populations wherever they went? Couldn’t that explain their rapid integration into the pre-existing populations of Europe and the subcontinent?

    One thing that I find rather remarkable is that a Kalash girl looks like she could be my sister — a sort of female doppelgänger of me (according to a Jewish friend of mine who was rather impressed by the resemblance — if you’d known me as a child the resemblance would be more remarkable) despite her darker skin, which is probably a result of different environment and lifestyle (I live in western Washington), yet geographically she’s on the opposite end of the “white” peoples.

    Maybe it’s coincidence, but then again when I see the Monpa people, who are an aboriginal Sinic people despite their Indian nationality, they look totally Chinese, so the eye cannot be entirely wrong.

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    A trivial corollary of the fact that relatively few genetic markers govern a great deal of one's appearance phenotype and that the world population is huge is that most people have multiple, not very closely related, doppelgängers.

    The people who are these matches are normally identified only in the case of body doubles for aristocrats and famous actors, where the resemblance is marketable, but it is true of most people.

  19. nobody says:

    thanks, I’ll be picking up a copy of The History and Geography of Human Genes.

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  20. Jason says:

    On the Fall of Rome, does anyone know if the book only asserts that life in the city of Rome and surrounding area became worse? Or does he also demonstrate that life in the provinces drastically declined too?

    In other words, does he show that the average person living in what is today France or Germany would have felt his life was worse?

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    latter. though it varies. eastern provinces did not decline nearly as much early on for obvious reasons.
  21. vinteuil says:
    @Yudi
    Incredible. I know many have begged you over the years to write a book, but this post really shows why you need to do that, at least at some point.

    I have a few questions and comments:

    1) " The figure from Haak et al does not use admixture components that break out naturally, but their inferred demographic mixes taking into account the genetic character of the putative ancestral populations. The blue component refers to WHG, but WHG-like ancestry is also in both the green (Yamnaya) and orange (EEF) elements (this is why I’m saying it is likely that modern Europeans are mostly >50% WHG-like)."

    Thank you for explaining this figure from Haak et al, because I have been wondering about it for awhile. Just to clarify, then, does the blue WHG ancestry shown in (say) the English in that diagram refer to WHGs that lived *in England itself* and became part of the modern English, whereas WHG picked up by EEF is shown in the orange EEF section?

    2) "Allentoft et al. has broader Eurasian samples, including likely Indo-European populations in the trans-Ural and trans-Altai regions. In both of these areas the successor cultures had EEF-like ancestry. That is, like the Corded Ware population, and unlike the parent Yamnaya group. This strongly implies back-migration by this complex from Eastern Europe, as far east as western China, during the Bronze Age."

    This point isn't quite clear to me either, and I don't have access to the Allentoft paper. According to it, who back-migrated to/from where? Did Corded Ware people go to the Altai and Ural regions?

    3) Regarding the IE expansion and David Anthony's comments, do you think his elite dominance model is still salvageable for southern Europe? There is less Yamnaya admixture there, and there were non-IE groups in areas of southern Europe well into the Iron Age, implying that the completion of Indo-Europeanization was more due to the contingent historical phenomenon of Rome's success. (Perhaps Romans had higher LCT rates than non-IEs, a la Tutsis/Hutus? Has anyone looked?) In general, the whole southerly aspect of the IE expansion (S. Europe, Iran, India, the Balkans, and Anatolia) is still virtually untouched by ancient DNA researchers, and will probably be the hardest part to unravel.

    4) "Why would one think that selection upon variation in pigmentation began at the cusp of the Holocene?"

    Well, the Inuit live further north than most Europeans, and yet are darker than them (though lighter than most Native Americans). Quite probably, diet affected Vitamin D intake; HGs may not have been so dependent on sunlight to get it. I do think it is telling that this gene was apparently selected for in early farmers from the Middle East, i.e., people living in an even sunnier and more southerly place than most of Europe, who also had relatively poor diets. Still, more research on divergent paths to depigmentation among Paleolithic European HGs would be very productive.

    5) "Intriguingly Allentoft et al. indicates that though the Bronze Age steppe populations had low frequencies of the derived allele, it seems that they did have a higher frequency than contemporary populations."

    How do you think this compares to Haak et al's completely negative finding of LCT among the Yamnaya? What might account for the discrepancy?

    6) Regarding cultural evolution and its role in the success of groups, have you heard about the upcoming book "The Secret of Our Success" by Joseph Henrich (the author of Foundations of Human Sociality)? http://www.amazon.com/Secret-Our-Success-Evolution-Domesticating/dp/0691166854/

    Apparently he will be tackling these and other questions regarding the role of cultural evolution in human history. Here is a video of him talking in March 2015 about matter which he says will be addressed in his "upcoming book." He discusses the role of monogamy and outbreeding in cultural group selection and in the creation of WEIRD people: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV1LRsI0ybA

    This book sounds like it will be a culmination of a lot of the cultural evolution research that's been undertaken in the last couple decades, as well as answering your call for more culturally-informed explanations for human evolutionary change. It's definitely on my to-read list.

    I agree that RK should try his hand at a book. If he came out with a popularly accessible summary of what we now know (or can reasonably guess) about human prehistory, I’d be first in line to buy a copy.

    But he will need a co-author – or, at the very least, an editor willing and able to stand up to him. I mean, this sort of thing:

    “What Cavalli-Sforza did was bring genetic science toward addressing more contemporary phenomena, to answer questions which come to the cusp of the present, tackling issues of relevance to living human people on the scale of nations and peoples…”

    …really badly needs rewriting.

    I wonder if John Derbyshire might be available…

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    alright, this is a common point people bring up, perhaps because they've never blogged (though i know you have, so i have no idea where you are coming from). tell me if you could a 10,000 word post on this sort of topic in one day without having some convoluted prose? if you can, then fine. if you can't, shut up. if i DID write a book obviously it would be in a very different style. that's something called common sense. use it. i took time out from my research and consulting to put some effort into writing this post, if you want to pay me to working on editing it more than once or twice, then i'd have to get paid more than i do (and in any case, i didn't write this for the $).

    (people who have more to say on this specific issue are free to comment and get banned)

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  22. […] If science is hard, history is harder. Harder in that the goal is to understand what happened in ages which are fading away like evanescent ghosts of our imagination. But we must be…… cautious. We are a great storytelling species, seduced by narrative. The sort of empirically informed and rigorous analysis which is the hallmark of modern scholarship is a special and distinctive thing, even if it is usually packaged in turgid and impenetrable prose. Read the entire story. […]

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  23. @vinteuil
    I agree that RK should try his hand at a book. If he came out with a popularly accessible summary of what we now know (or can reasonably guess) about human prehistory, I'd be first in line to buy a copy.

    But he will need a co-author - or, at the very least, an editor willing and able to stand up to him. I mean, this sort of thing:

    "What Cavalli-Sforza did was bring genetic science toward addressing more contemporary phenomena, to answer questions which come to the cusp of the present, tackling issues of relevance to living human people on the scale of nations and peoples..."

    ...really badly needs rewriting.

    I wonder if John Derbyshire might be available...

    alright, this is a common point people bring up, perhaps because they’ve never blogged (though i know you have, so i have no idea where you are coming from). tell me if you could a 10,000 word post on this sort of topic in one day without having some convoluted prose? if you can, then fine. if you can’t, shut up. if i DID write a book obviously it would be in a very different style. that’s something called common sense. use it. i took time out from my research and consulting to put some effort into writing this post, if you want to pay me to working on editing it more than once or twice, then i’d have to get paid more than i do (and in any case, i didn’t write this for the $).

    (people who have more to say on this specific issue are free to comment and get banned)

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  24. ohwilleke says: • Website
    @Wizard of Oz
    There seems to be sn inconsistency between your references to 1500 BCE and to 3200 to 2500 BCE. What have I misunderstood?

    1500BCE to 2015 CE: Finnish, a Uralic language and Saami, another Uralic language closely related to Finnish, spoken in Finland. Arrives from the East.

    2500 BCE to 1500 BCE: Corded Ware language (Indo-European and probably most closely related to the Indo-European Baltic languages today), spoken in Finland. Arrives from the South. The 2500 BCE date is approximate and could be as early as 3200 BCE.

    8000 BCE to 2500 BCE — Mesolithic Hunter Gatherer language(s) (entire language family now lost to history apart from a handful of possible place names) spoken in Finland. The end date could be as early as 3200 BCE instead of 2500 BCE.

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    The dates and proceedings of some of these events likely were a bit more complicated and recent. Saami and Baltic Finnic languages seem to have arrived later than 1500 BCE, and as large parts of Finland, Karelia and the whole Kola Peninsula and the Arctic coast were outside Corded Ware horizon, now extinct languages preceding IE and Uralic quite likely survived there to more recent times. Saami which spread into those areas first has a substrate while the Baltic Finnic family (Finnish, Estonian, Livonian, Vepsian etc) does not.

    Aikio (2004):

    "Even though the Saami language is intrusive in its present territory, the background of the Saami people is somewhat different. Studies in population genetics have confirmed the old hypothesis of the 'racially' distinct character of the Saami; to put this in modern terminology, the Saami people form a genetic outlier in the European context. Significantly, this outlier status also holds in comparison to the geographically adjacent and linguistically related Finnic peoples. "


    "It can be concluded that the Saami lexicon shows consistent signs of heavy substrate influence."

    ...

    "An inspection of the existing collection of North Saami toponyms reveals an abundance of names of unknown origin."

    ...

    "The language shift from unknown 'Paleo-Laplandic" languages to Saami was probably completed between approximately 0-500 A.D."

    "Proto-Saami disintegrated slightly earlier than Proto-Scandinavian"

    To me it seems that Saami arrival to Finland happened much later than 1500 BCE and Baltic Finnic arrival after that (crossing the sea from Estonia or through Karelian Istmus). As for the pre-Saami inhabitants of regions without CW influence, the Bolshoy Oleni Ostrov site (Kola Peninsula, 1500 BCE) most likely is one example. The genetics of the remains have been studied, though so far only mtDNA is available.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3573127/

  25. ohwilleke says: • Website
    @Bill P
    So much food for thought here. I really, deeply appreciate your efforts writing on Unz Review, Razib. And I, for one, find your language very accessible and familiar. Don't even think about toning it down -- just let it flow as it comes. You have a particular way of putting things that's all your own, which is a rare thing these days.

    Since you've focused a lot on pigmentation here, I'd like to ask whether the original Indo-European people couldn't have been rather heterogeneous in this regard. It's my amateur hypothesis that the Indo-European people were originally a tribal confederation sort of like the Sioux or Iroquois, possibly made up of various tribes from the periphery of the steppe region that included people from north and south, east and west.

    Couldn't some of them have been fair haired, some dark-eyed, and others different? My wife is a dark-eyed, fair-haired bronze-skinned Balt, and I jokingly call her "cow-eyed Hera" (she is beautiful to me like that), and there are those in my family on all sides with all sorts of various colorations. My sister is a blue-eyed light blonde with alabaster skin, yet my mother is olive-skinned with hazel eyes. My father was lily-white with black hair and deep blue eyes, I have fair skin, light brown hair, blue eyes and a red beard, and my children have blue, green and hazel eyes and from very fair to quite tan skin, and are all blond (so far).

    Maybe I'm going out on a limb here, but isn't it possible that one of the strengths of the Indo-Europeans was that they comprised a composite population that allowed them to form new composite populations wherever they went? Couldn't that explain their rapid integration into the pre-existing populations of Europe and the subcontinent?

    One thing that I find rather remarkable is that a Kalash girl looks like she could be my sister -- a sort of female doppelgänger of me (according to a Jewish friend of mine who was rather impressed by the resemblance -- if you'd known me as a child the resemblance would be more remarkable) despite her darker skin, which is probably a result of different environment and lifestyle (I live in western Washington), yet geographically she's on the opposite end of the "white" peoples.

    Maybe it's coincidence, but then again when I see the Monpa people, who are an aboriginal Sinic people despite their Indian nationality, they look totally Chinese, so the eye cannot be entirely wrong.

    A trivial corollary of the fact that relatively few genetic markers govern a great deal of one’s appearance phenotype and that the world population is huge is that most people have multiple, not very closely related, doppelgängers.

    The people who are these matches are normally identified only in the case of body doubles for aristocrats and famous actors, where the resemblance is marketable, but it is true of most people.

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  26. @Jason
    On the Fall of Rome, does anyone know if the book only asserts that life in the city of Rome and surrounding area became worse? Or does he also demonstrate that life in the provinces drastically declined too?

    In other words, does he show that the average person living in what is today France or Germany would have felt his life was worse?

    latter. though it varies. eastern provinces did not decline nearly as much early on for obvious reasons.

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  27. Shaikorth says:
    @ohwilleke
    1500BCE to 2015 CE: Finnish, a Uralic language and Saami, another Uralic language closely related to Finnish, spoken in Finland. Arrives from the East.

    2500 BCE to 1500 BCE: Corded Ware language (Indo-European and probably most closely related to the Indo-European Baltic languages today), spoken in Finland. Arrives from the South. The 2500 BCE date is approximate and could be as early as 3200 BCE.

    8000 BCE to 2500 BCE -- Mesolithic Hunter Gatherer language(s) (entire language family now lost to history apart from a handful of possible place names) spoken in Finland. The end date could be as early as 3200 BCE instead of 2500 BCE.

    The dates and proceedings of some of these events likely were a bit more complicated and recent. Saami and Baltic Finnic languages seem to have arrived later than 1500 BCE, and as large parts of Finland, Karelia and the whole Kola Peninsula and the Arctic coast were outside Corded Ware horizon, now extinct languages preceding IE and Uralic quite likely survived there to more recent times. Saami which spread into those areas first has a substrate while the Baltic Finnic family (Finnish, Estonian, Livonian, Vepsian etc) does not.

    Aikio (2004):

    “Even though the Saami language is intrusive in its present territory, the background of the Saami people is somewhat different. Studies in population genetics have confirmed the old hypothesis of the ‘racially’ distinct character of the Saami; to put this in modern terminology, the Saami people form a genetic outlier in the European context. Significantly, this outlier status also holds in comparison to the geographically adjacent and linguistically related Finnic peoples. ”

    “It can be concluded that the Saami lexicon shows consistent signs of heavy substrate influence.”

    “An inspection of the existing collection of North Saami toponyms reveals an abundance of names of unknown origin.”

    “The language shift from unknown ‘Paleo-Laplandic” languages to Saami was probably completed between approximately 0-500 A.D.”

    “Proto-Saami disintegrated slightly earlier than Proto-Scandinavian”

    To me it seems that Saami arrival to Finland happened much later than 1500 BCE and Baltic Finnic arrival after that (crossing the sea from Estonia or through Karelian Istmus). As for the pre-Saami inhabitants of regions without CW influence, the Bolshoy Oleni Ostrov site (Kola Peninsula, 1500 BCE) most likely is one example. The genetics of the remains have been studied, though so far only mtDNA is available.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3573127/

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  28. Sterling says:

    Razib,

    Thank you for another wonderfully informative article. Over the years I have learned so much from your writings and I appreciate all your efforts to educate, especially the lay person. I just placed an order for a couple of the books.

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  29. Amanda S says:

    I enjoyed your post and appreciate the time you put in to preparing it.

    With the publication of the Allentoft paper, I’ve been reviewing the supplementary material from the Haak paper. One thing, among the many interesting things, I noticed was in the analysis which looked at the residual error left after using a combination of EN, WHG and Yamnaya samples alone to predict current populations. After these samples were combined, the English reference group had the lowest residual error. In many ways this is not surprising as Britain is the furthest to the west of and to the north of other populations which might contribute to the composition of other modern European populations. Then there were further adjustments to add a Semitic sample (Bedouin_B) and a North Siberian sample which further reduced the error in many of the other European groups such as Russians and Maltese who have some ancestry relating to these groups. When this was done, the English sample still showed the smallest residual error but the groups that showed the biggest residuals were the Scots, the Icelanders and the Norwegians.

    This leads me to wonder what we would find if we had a British Isles Hunter Gatherer ancient genome. Maybe it would be quite a bit different from the Loschbour sample. If some ancient British hunter gatherer DNA survives it would be quite likely to exist in the Scottish and probably the Irish populations. Scotland has vast areas of land which were probably of little use to the first farmers and which could have provided a refuge and a continued source of livelihood to the native hunter gatherers. We know that Scottish and Irish DNA is a significant contributor to the ancestry of present day Icelanders. So potentially a British Isles HG could also reduce the error in the Icelandic sample and also, to a smaller extent, in the Norwegian sample which also imported labour from the same regions during the Viking era.

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  30. @vinteuil
    I agree that RK should try his hand at a book. If he came out with a popularly accessible summary of what we now know (or can reasonably guess) about human prehistory, I'd be first in line to buy a copy.

    But he will need a co-author - or, at the very least, an editor willing and able to stand up to him. I mean, this sort of thing:

    "What Cavalli-Sforza did was bring genetic science toward addressing more contemporary phenomena, to answer questions which come to the cusp of the present, tackling issues of relevance to living human people on the scale of nations and peoples..."

    ...really badly needs rewriting.

    I wonder if John Derbyshire might be available...

    If Razib writes a book, I will offer to proof read it for him for nothing.

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  32. They can speak their honest minds without offending,” Twain observed in “The Privilege of the Grave,” an essay written in 1905

    “We have charity for what the dead say,” Twain continued. “We may disapprove of what they say, but we do not insult them, we do not revile them, as knowing they cannot now defend themselves. If they should speak, what revelations there would be!

    http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/mark-twain-speech-is-freer-from-the-grave

    The dead aren’t just dead, they are honest.

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  33. Beowulf says:

    Hi Razib,

    You said: “In the end this line of research often resulted in a transposition of a phylogenetic tree upon a world map, outlining patterns of human migration.It also aligned well with another line of research which explicitly modeled the expansions of humans out of Africa as a “serial founder bottleneck” process. That is, each population which left Africa progressively branched out in a unidirectional manner, resulting in reduced genetic diversity as one progressed out of Africa. In its broadest strokes this model is not without validity.”

    So does the idea that populations have less genetic diversity the further they get from Africa still hold true, even if populations in the past mixed more than we originally thought?

    -Beowulf

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  34. Klein’s mutation theory provided a partial answer to a question to me that is now even less answered: why did agricultural civilizations originate independently ten or more times in the last 10k years and not before, if it’s correct that human populations in Africa weren’t that different from modern humans, long before 100k years ago? I don’t think the answer is long-term cultural development as a necessary precursor to agriculture, because agriculture originated independently three times in the Western Hemisphere, which was only settled by small groups arriving <20k years ago with an Arctic hunter-gatherer tool kit.

    Even if you do need about 15k-plus years of cultural development to develop agriculture (and the experience of Western Hemisphere makes that a ceiling, not a floor) then we don't know why humans with the genetic capability to farm for hundreds of thousands of years wouldn't do it at all for millenial, and then suddenly do it independently, repeatedly, and nearly simultaneously within 10k years. Modern humans were "confined" to Africa for the vast majority of that period, but that's still a big place, lots of people, and lots of time.

    Klein's theory shortened the period of genetic ability but no farming from hundreds of thousands of years to less that 100k years, maybe significantly less. It's still puzzling even so, but less illogical.

    I don't know if the gradual encephalization theory is an alternative explanation, that our ancestors have become increasingly likely to have the mental ability to create agricultural civilization over time. Seems unlikely though, once again, that the breakthroughs would happen so close together unless the last incremental step over 50k years ago was a necessary component – something that would make this theory not that different from Klein.

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    I speak strictly as a non-expert, but I suggest that reasons why agriculture didn't develop for such a long time and then developed almost simultaneously in different parts of the globe might include:

    - As long as there is space to roam, food to be gathered and hunted, what need for agriculture? Did there come a point c.10000 BCE when the global population pressure (or at least the pressure in certain nexus) forced the planting of crops in a regular fashion, just as a way to find enough food?

    - Agriculturalists are surely very vulnerable to attack from hunter-gatherers if they are operating on a small scale. Their crops (or livestock) which are their livelihood can be taken in a single day (or night). For agriculturalists to survive, they need to be able to defend their territory - unlike hunter-gatherers they can't just pack up and move on. And I think this means they need a whole military aristocracy. And larger areas are easier to defend, so there will be a tendency for aggregation.

    - I wonder if there was a military technological development (i.e. discovery) which made possible the creation of the first 'states' which might initially have been based on hunter-gatherer lifestyle (some evidence for this in Turkey?) but then made possible the new agriculturalist model? We know that in all historic periods military technology is a primary driver of social change. If there was, what could it have been?

    If someone can point me to more expert opinion on these matters I would be very interested...
  35. Yudi says:
    @Razib Khan
    Thank you for explaining this figure from Haak et al, because I have been wondering about it for awhile. Just to clarify, then, does the blue WHG ancestry shown in (say) the English in that diagram refer to WHGs that lived *in England itself* and became part of the modern English, whereas WHG picked up by EEF is shown in the orange EEF section?

    not necessarily, but perhaps. i think perhaps not though, otherwise we'd see a section on the local structure that persists? the issue is that EEF is mixed up. the blue WHG is stuff that came in later and added to a well mixed EEF substrate. by analogy, south asians are 50% west eurasian and 50% not west eurasian. i'm pretty much around there aside from the 15% east asian. so my kids are 70% or so west eurasian, but really it is easier to break out the south asian from the european.

    This point isn’t quite clear to me either, and I don’t have access to the Allentoft paper. According to it, who back-migrated to/from where? Did Corded Ware people go to the Altai and Ural regions?

    there is EEF-like ancestry in the ural region and beyond. not present in yamnaya. some one inference is that post-yamnaya european group migrated back. or, EEF was on the steppe.

    Regarding the IE expansion and David Anthony’s comments, do you think his elite dominance model is still salvageable for southern Europe? There is less Yamnaya admixture there, and there were non-IE groups in areas of southern Europe well into the Iron Age, implying that the completion of Indo-Europeanization was more due to the contingent historical phenomenon of Rome’s success. (Perhaps Romans had higher LCT rates than non-IEs, a la Tutsis/Hutus? Has anyone looked?) In general, the whole southerly aspect of the IE expansion (S. Europe, Iran, India, the Balkans, and Anatolia) is still virtually untouched by ancient DNA researchers, and will probably be the hardest part to unravel.

    yes, this is unclear. i think anatolia will be good. though allentoft paper had ancient armenians, and they look like modern armenians. ancient as in bronze age. there are samples from spain so they'll probably come out of greece and italy (this one had some italian samples). the basque have ANE-like ancestry, so there must have been some gene flow after the initial waves coming in.

    i think some sort of more complex model of indo-europeanization may be salvageable or possible. it's confused. the researcher who points out that greek is way too diverged from balto-slavic-germanic in 1500 BCE if indo-europeans only showed up in early ~2500 BCE sounds right to me. also, kalash and armenians don't have EEF, so the steppe migrations diverged at some point.

    How do you think this compares to Haak et al’s completely negative finding of LCT among the Yamnaya? What might account for the discrepancy?


    low sample sizes. i believe you didn't get a hit for LCT in a lot of individuals. ancient and degraded.

    6) Regarding cultural evolution and its role in the success of groups, have you heard about the upcoming book “The Secret of Our Success” by Joseph Henrich (the author of Foundations of Human Sociality)? http://www.amazon.com/Secret-Our-Success-Evolution-Domesticating/dp/0691166854/

    yes. been keeping track of his research since 2004! there's a reason he's moved to harvard!

    Thank you for your extensive reply and link to the Allentoft paper.

    “the blue WHG is stuff that came in later and added to a well mixed EEF substrate.”

    So, would this have happened during the time after the initial EEF push in which HG ancestry increased in frequency across Europe?

    “some one inference is that post-yamnaya european group migrated back. or, EEF was on the steppe.”

    Interesting. Given how demographically successful the first farmers were, I would not rule out EEF going eastward and northward onto the steppe. On the other hand, much has been made, in light of this finding, of the linguistic connections between Balto-Slavic and Indo-Iranian. And we should never forget that there were surely branches of Indo-European languages that were never committed to writing before going extinct. As always, more research is needed! We live in interesting times, and scientific preprints and posts like yours help laypeople like us feel some small slice of the awe and fascination that the scientists making all these discoveries must experience.

    “i think anatolia will be good.”

    Turkey has a pretty good antiquities program, doesn’t it? Unfortunately, anything in the Middle East, such as Iran, might be harder to access. What do you think it would take to convince skeptics of the steppe hypothesis? A clear change in material culture at the same time as Yamnaya genetic material appeared in people? Alternatively, what ancient DNA evidence would prove (or at least strongly hint) that the IE expansion was more complicated than the canonical steppe hypothesis predicts? In some ways things are much easier to explain when they just drive out the previous inhabitants!

    Regarding Henrich’s upcoming book, I should point out that I learned about it due to you–I look at the work of a lot of the scientists and historians you link to on your goodreads page.

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    @Brian Schmidt
    Klein's mutation theory provided a partial answer to a question to me that is now even less answered: why did agricultural civilizations originate independently ten or more times in the last 10k years and not before, if it's correct that human populations in Africa weren't that different from modern humans, long before 100k years ago? I don't think the answer is long-term cultural development as a necessary precursor to agriculture, because agriculture originated independently three times in the Western Hemisphere, which was only settled by small groups arriving <20k years ago with an Arctic hunter-gatherer tool kit.

    Even if you do need about 15k-plus years of cultural development to develop agriculture (and the experience of Western Hemisphere makes that a ceiling, not a floor) then we don't know why humans with the genetic capability to farm for hundreds of thousands of years wouldn't do it at all for millenial, and then suddenly do it independently, repeatedly, and nearly simultaneously within 10k years. Modern humans were "confined" to Africa for the vast majority of that period, but that's still a big place, lots of people, and lots of time.

    Klein's theory shortened the period of genetic ability but no farming from hundreds of thousands of years to less that 100k years, maybe significantly less. It's still puzzling even so, but less illogical.

    I don't know if the gradual encephalization theory is an alternative explanation, that our ancestors have become increasingly likely to have the mental ability to create agricultural civilization over time. Seems unlikely though, once again, that the breakthroughs would happen so close together unless the last incremental step over 50k years ago was a necessary component - something that would make this theory not that different from Klein.

    I speak strictly as a non-expert, but I suggest that reasons why agriculture didn’t develop for such a long time and then developed almost simultaneously in different parts of the globe might include:

    - As long as there is space to roam, food to be gathered and hunted, what need for agriculture? Did there come a point c.10000 BCE when the global population pressure (or at least the pressure in certain nexus) forced the planting of crops in a regular fashion, just as a way to find enough food?

    - Agriculturalists are surely very vulnerable to attack from hunter-gatherers if they are operating on a small scale. Their crops (or livestock) which are their livelihood can be taken in a single day (or night). For agriculturalists to survive, they need to be able to defend their territory – unlike hunter-gatherers they can’t just pack up and move on. And I think this means they need a whole military aristocracy. And larger areas are easier to defend, so there will be a tendency for aggregation.

    - I wonder if there was a military technological development (i.e. discovery) which made possible the creation of the first ‘states’ which might initially have been based on hunter-gatherer lifestyle (some evidence for this in Turkey?) but then made possible the new agriculturalist model? We know that in all historic periods military technology is a primary driver of social change. If there was, what could it have been?

    If someone can point me to more expert opinion on these matters I would be very interested…

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