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I recently stumbled on a profile of your humble servant on the Pharos website. Pharos is an academic blog which allows you to “learn about and respond to appropriations of Greco-Roman antiquity by hate groups online.” The blog’s name “refers to the Lighthouse of Alexandria, the first such beacon and the symbol of a city whose location at the crossroads between what we now call Europe and many other cultures made it for centuries the intellectual center of the Greco-Roman world.”

Pharos correctly observes that “[t]he civilizations of ancient Greece and Rome have always been attractive to European nationalist and racist movements.” The publication wishes to “expose the errors, omissions, and distortions” of said groups and “articulate a politically progressive approach to the study of Greco-Roman antiquity.”

Pharos does not explicitly say what it means by a “politically progressive approach.” However, browsing the website, one immediately sees they mean essentially left-wing identity politics, with a strong emphasis on homophilia, feminism, and multiculturalism.


Photo Credit: ©Walter Garschagen/ Vassar College

The website is run by Curtis Dozier, a professor of Greek and Roman history at Vassar College in New York. Pharos and its openly left-wing agenda enjoy “the support of the Vassar College Department of Greek and Roman Studies and the Vassar College Office of Communications.”

This is a refreshing bit of honesty: while it is widely-known that university professors overwhelmingly skew towards leftism and globalism,[1]In France, our academic and media elites are mostly found in a rather narrow spectrum, stretching from resentful Marxists (supporting Jean-Luc Mélenchon) to pro-corporate globalists (supporting Emmanuel Macron), with squishy, ineffectual social democrats (supporting Benoît Hamon) stuck in the middle. Virtually none support conservative candidates, let alone nationalists. One finds analogous psychological profiles in the United States, although political expression differs given the more narrow political space there in the two-party system. it is not so common for them to officially declare their political leanings and goals.[2]To be complete, I think it is probably better for all cultural institutions to officially declare their ideological leanings rather than fraudulently uphold a notion of ‘ideological neutrality,’ which strikes me as a demoliberal conceit. There is no such thing as an ideologically-neutral institution. At most one might have a tenuous political neutrality, maintaining some sort of balance between officially-recognized political parties (and even then, certain parties will be considered beyond the pale and ignored or suppressed). Whatever their pretenses of ‘neutrality’ and ‘pluralism,’ the ideology of every institution is visible according to the particular field of opinions it authorizes or promotes, and that is that. Today, all politically ‘neutral’ media and universities are demoliberal, generally leaning left and globalist. The question is not whether institutions are ideologically-neutral, an impossibility, but whether their ideology, implicit or avowed, is in line with reality and, in particular, biological and ethical reality, whether they promote the survival and flourishing of a society, or rather corrode and destroy it.

This begs questions however: Does Vassar College receive any public funds? If so, what do taxpayers think of the university using their money to promote a left-wing political agenda? And what do the conservative parents paying for their children to go to Vassar Collage think of this? Is this legal and common in the United States?

The editors of Pharos do not believe in dialogue, an ancient Socratic tradition, with those who are beyond the pale. They declare: “Pharos’ responses and essays are not intended to change the minds of those who use antiquity to support their racist ideologies.” Instead, the blog is meant to assuage liberal classicists’ disquiet at their field’s association with the Right:

They are intended, rather, to ensure that someone who turns to the web to learn about antiquity finds something other than the appropriations we are documenting. We hope, too, that our work will nourish those who love antiquity but are uncomfortable with the traditional association of its study with elitist and oppressive politics. You are not alone.

Pharos’ rejection of dialogue and ideological pluralism is such that the website even refuses to link to offending websites, so as to not increase their traffic, preferring to refer the reader to archived pages.

There has been a concerted effort by egalitarians to, however implausibly, ‘reclaim’ a sanitized version of the classics compatible with the various left-wing manias of the current year. Most prominent in this has been Donna Zuckerberg’s effort to preach egalitarianism . . . in another millennium.

As a rule, Pharos’ rebuttals are uneven, a mixture of fair points, qualifications, and non sequiturs. There is a lot of squid ink. For instance, the website objects to an online writer styling himself Hadrian, after the Roman emperor who built a wall on the border with Scotland, observing which “according to some but not all sources, was intended to keep ‘barbarians’ out of Roman territory.” Pray tell, what are ‘walls’ for other than helping to control (and generally, simply impede) who comes in and out of your territory?

This gives me another opportunity to comment on EU President Jean-Claude Juncker’s statement that “borders are the worst invention ever made by politicians.” It’s true that if borders were better controlled in Europe, his native Luxembourg which he headed for two decades, would not be able to thrive to the detriment of its neighbors as a tax haven. But if Juncker had paid more attention to in history class he might have avoided such a thoughtless comment: the word politician comes from polis and the polis, the city-state, was founded first as a kind of religious sanctuary, under particular gods’ protection, precisely with a sacred border between itself and the violence and lawlessness beyond. Thus, borders are in fact the first invention of politicians – symbolically affirmed in the founding myth of Rome, with Remus killing his brother Romulus for jumping over the city wall – and were integral to founding of civilization and all the comforts and advantages flowing therefrom that we so take for granted.

Anyway, back to Pharos. The website maintains a list of writers, and even a humble commenter, using classically-inspired pseudonyms. This is a useful resource. I discovered that the men’s help website Return of Kings (which used to focus on seduction and, I understand, has become some kind of Christian website) has been introducing a new generation of young men to “The Roots of Masculinity in Ancient Rome” as well as ancient Stoic wisdom (which you really must get into).

The list also includes Sargon of Akkad – a civic nationalist who rejects all identity politics, including racial identity, who recently ran as a UKIP candidate in the European elections. Pharos observes that Sargon once interviewed Steve Bannon, calling the latter a “white nationalist,” citing nothing other than an ADL article which itself does not substantiate the claim. Bannon is no more than a vague economic nationalist, who has jumped from one populist bandwagon to the next.

Something rubs me the wrong way when people accuse populists and civic nationalists of being more radical than they are. People on the right get a tremendous amount of flack – really systematic emotional abuse – for publicly affirming their beliefs and I think any honest person, in particular an academic, should really stick to the facts, rather than putting inaccurate labels.

Concerning Pharos’ post dedicated to me, while the framing is extremely inaccurate and stigmatizing, much of the content is fairly balanced. The author is fair enough to write:

Such “biopolitics, racialism, and nationalism,” according to Durocher, were “integral to the Hellenic way of life.” He’s not wrong about this aspect of ancient culture, and when he says it “prefigure[s] Darwin’s later evolutionary theory” he may be claiming “scientific” support for his hateful politics but he’s not misrepresenting the origins of modern pseudo-scientific racism in evolutionary thought. What is wrong is his idealization of racist theories that he complains are “taboo in the West” even though they offer, he claims, the best way to achieve “the ideal being the best as a whole society.” . . .

Durocher’s description of citizenship in Athens and Sparta is more or less accurate, hence adding a false sense of legitimacy to his claim that we should imitate ancient eugenic practices. . . .

The scholarship he cites may be outdated, but he knows his history and he doesn’t misrepresent the ancient past. His problem is that he assumes that past is admirable and worthy of emulation. It might be worth emulating the ancient Greek city-states’ “collective ideal of being the best as a whole society” but this won’t mean the same thing for us that it meant for them.

I also learned from this post that Fustel de Coulanges’ The Ancient City – a wonderful nineteenth-century work reconstructing the original Indo-European society based on the surviving Greece, Roman, and Indian sources – was first translated into English as Aryan Civilization: Its Origin and Progress (it’s indeed what it says on the tin).

Concerning Pharos’ critique, I will stick to the big picture rather than get bogged down in details.

To try to extract an egalitarian version of Antiquity is simply to destroy the essence of Hellenism. The works of Homer, Plato, Aristotle, etc, etc, speak for themselves on this. Nietzsche’s tireless rantings on this issue are as interminable as they are necessary, given how meekly insensitive to harsh truths modern Westerners have become. I will not waste your time with my inferior paraphrases.

I find a wondrous harmony between the theory of Darwinism and the practice of Hellenism. One observes the Law of Life, the other was born of it, stemming from the Indo-European/Aryan/Yamnaya warrior people which conquered half of Eurasia and established the ancient civilizations of Greece, Rome, Persia, and India. In Hellenism, I also find an uncompromising and virile love of truth, beauty, and power which is sorely lacking in the modern West.

Most would agree, from Gautama Buddha to the authors of the U.N. Declaration of Human Rights, that human beings are special, entitled to better treatment than most other creatures. This is, presumably, because human beings are uniquely endowed with an exceptional capacity for reason and consciousness. Furthermore, we all wish to claim, more or less plausibly, the Greco-Roman legacy, whose excellence is self-evident.[3]It is striking that the American and French revolutionaries as well as the Italian and German fascists claimed the legacy of Antiquity, all quite sincerely. I personally tend to think ancient republicanism is imperfectly represented in all the modern traditions. Ancient republicanism embraced the holistic communitarianism (totalitarianism) of fascism and the adherence to procedure, (direct) representation, and the rule of law that one finds in modern republican regimes. Make of that what you will.

I would quite agree that humans beings are entitled to decent treatment insofar as they are rational and social creatures. Any act of unnecessary cruelty betrays either ignorance or lack of self-control on the part of the perpetrator. However, these healthy moral principles have turned into a crazed egalitarianism, motivated by the sum of petty-interests and petty-pride of individuals, rather than any concern for the common good or the good (the excellent) as such. A blanket critique of the past in the name of equality is a kind of hypocrisy, a kind of intergenerational moral parasitism.

One must ask: How have humans beings achieved such an elevated biological state? How did our civilizations, ancient and modern, reach the cultural heights that they did? Try to be honest (with yourself).

Notes

[1] In France, our academic and media elites are mostly found in a rather narrow spectrum, stretching from resentful Marxists (supporting Jean-Luc Mélenchon) to pro-corporate globalists (supporting Emmanuel Macron), with squishy, ineffectual social democrats (supporting Benoît Hamon) stuck in the middle. Virtually none support conservative candidates, let alone nationalists. One finds analogous psychological profiles in the United States, although political expression differs given the more narrow political space there in the two-party system.

[2] To be complete, I think it is probably better for all cultural institutions to officially declare their ideological leanings rather than fraudulently uphold a notion of ‘ideological neutrality,’ which strikes me as a demoliberal conceit. There is no such thing as an ideologically-neutral institution. At most one might have a tenuous political neutrality, maintaining some sort of balance between officially-recognized political parties (and even then, certain parties will be considered beyond the pale and ignored or suppressed). Whatever their pretenses of ‘neutrality’ and ‘pluralism,’ the ideology of every institution is visible according to the particular field of opinions it authorizes or promotes, and that is that. Today, all politically ‘neutral’ media and universities are demoliberal, generally leaning left and globalist. The question is not whether institutions are ideologically-neutral, an impossibility, but whether their ideology, implicit or avowed, is in line with reality and, in particular, biological and ethical reality, whether they promote the survival and flourishing of a society, or rather corrode and destroy it.

[3] It is striking that the American and French revolutionaries as well as the Italian and German fascists claimed the legacy of Antiquity, all quite sincerely. I personally tend to think ancient republicanism is imperfectly represented in all the modern traditions. Ancient republicanism embraced the holistic communitarianism (totalitarianism) of fascism and the adherence to procedure, (direct) representation, and the rule of law that one finds in modern republican regimes. Make of that what you will.

 
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  1. dearieme says:

    The wall is built across the isthmus between the Solway Firth and the North Sea, taking advantage not only of the short distance but also of the detailed lie of the land. It marked the major northern defence line of the province of Britannia. But the Romans also controlled land in front of, i.e. north of, the wall using forts and patrols. Later it seems that the control of that land was ceded to client kingdoms to which Rome presumably paid tribute (though I’ll bet it wasn’t called tribute). These kingdoms would presumably adopt a veneer of Roman ways if only militarily.

    Moreover the wall had gates so that, presumably, not only troops but Roman and barbarian traders could leave and enter the Roman province.

    There’s enough there to allow for fuzzing the issue, allowing you to say something that might be true while also being misleading. Because saying that the wall was built to keep the barbarians out seems to me to be true to first order.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    , @Alfred
  2. “This begs questions however: Does Vassar College receive any public funds? If so, what do taxpayers think of the university using their money to promote a left-wing political agenda? And what do the conservative parents paying for their children to go to Vassar Collage think of this? Is this legal and common in the United States?”

    Answer to first question: It does indeed receive public funds, though mostly in a subtle (to the not so attentive mind at least) indirect manner. That is to say yes, but not in the fashion that say the University of Michigan or the University of Virginia (Charlottesville) does.

    The second question begs more questions with regards to “conservative” and “think”.

    The third question: Unfortunately, yes.

    • Replies: @Guillaume Durocher
    , @eah
  3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vassar_College#Rankings

    The 2019 annual ranking of U.S. News & World Report categorizes Vassar as ‘most selective’

    https://www.forbes.com/top-colleges/list/

    Vassar College is 51st in the list of top colleges.

    https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-liberal-arts-colleges

    Vassar is like the 11th best Liberal arts college.

    The wikipedia says it’s a private college. Don’t know how much money the private colleges receive from federal funds. My guess that it is a very dispensable part of their budget, and that the money is quite expendable.

    Yes I know you answered.

    Also, it’s still seems like a decent school with good prospects so I suppose that is why many conservatives allow their children to go there

  4. Sean says:

    http://pages.vassar.edu/pharos/2019/03/08/white-supremacist-takes-inspiration-from-ancient-eugenics/
    The second is a favorite topic for contemporary race pseudo-scientists, the widespread application in ancient Greece of “environmental determinism,” by which a person’s origin is assumed to determine essential traits such as courage or intelligence.

    Well before evolutionary theory, one might have said that Sparta was magic dirt in which free born generic Greeks sprouted into relentless fighters, and Athens was where they grew up to be inquiring philosophers. I think a contemporary non-anti-racist would be likely to see behavioural differences in those populations as stemming from genes conferring the ability to be a fearless soldier being socially valued and thus being more adaptive in Sparta than in Athens, while genes aiding abstract cognition were a royal road to eminence in Athens, although being clever makes for better generalship of course as in the case of Xenophon.

    http://evoandproud.blogspot.com/2019/07/the-golden-age-of-intelligence.html
    In the ancient world, ‘leaving a great name’ did not mean being written about by historians but rather having many illustrious children to carry on the family name long after death. Intellectual ability thus co-evolved with a supportive cultural base. Indeed, we humans have co-evolved much more with our cultural environment than with our natural environment

    http://pages.vassar.edu/pharos/2019/03/08/white-supremacist-takes-inspiration-from-ancient-eugenics/

    This notion was as much a fantasy in antiquity as is the modern fantasy of a racial continuity between the ancient Greeks and modern white Europeans.

    If there is no genetic continuity between the ancient Greeks and modern Greeks, then a very powerful argument against achievement stemming from genes conferring high intelligence is invalidated.

    On the other hand, the science seems to indicate that there is substantial continuity between ancient and modern Greeks. Galton thought the peak of Ancient Greek intelligence was epitomized by the free born population of Attica in the century begining 530 BC. Athens went from a population of 300,00 in ancient times to as low as 5000 at one point in the modern era. Maybe the Athenian system contained the seeds of its own destruction just as much as the Spartan ways did, and the West is recreating this mysterious Spengleresque process on a vastly larger scale.

  5. @BengaliCanadianDude

    The “magazine rankings” of US colleges and universities are far more “pseudoscientific” than the material produced today by contemporary race realists, even by standards of race realist detractors.

  6. Titus says:

    Why am I surprised that the snowflakes at Pharos spend time riding the all-to-familiar hobby horse of “anti-Semitism”. http://pages.vassar.edu/pharos/anti-semitism/

    Seems we now have a lead on where some of their (((funding))) might come from.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  7. ia says:

    White men don’t really need to do much in order to turn things around. Just stop believing in the human rights god. Stop worrying about being called racist, sexist, homophobic, and so forth. It’s interesting that Secretary of State Pompeo is opening a panel on human rights and actually asking questions about this strange god. What is it and where did it come from? Why do we fear it so much?

    If culture’s what’s left over after you forgot what you tried to learn, as Pound thought, maybe western European men ought to begin questioning the god they created and were suckled on. What began as an image of Thomas Jefferson or Voltaire has morphed into a beetle-faced, pregnant hermaphrodite.

  8. Giuseppe says:

    One must ask: How have humans beings achieved such an elevated biological state? How did our civilizations, ancient and modern, reach the cultural heights that they did? Try to be honest (with yourself).

    Scientism, the ideological component of science, answers your question like this: human life is nothing special because humans are just so many slabs of meat, an insignificant component in the biomass that seeks to perpetuate itself on the planet. Scientism recognizes neither teleos nor hierarchy in evolution. What is strange is that while you acknowledge a teleos or at least an “elevated biological state” speaking ontologically of human beings, on the other hand you support infanticide, and so we are back to humans (infants) are nothing special, slabs of meat. You have one foot in each world, but perhaps the Greeks did as well. I do not believe that you are as out of step with the thinking of the Pharos people as they and you seem to think. You actually share a great deal in common, not only a love of the classics but a disdain for Christ. Exposing an infant to the elements on the brow of a hill and surgically removing a fetus from the womb have the same outcome and the same view of human life, they just arrive at their end by different methods.

  9. Tsigantes says:

    How curious that ‘the West’, now headquartered in Washington DC and its Israeli-Echelon affiliates (most of EU, excepting its captive NW corner, being flyover territory) – while denigrating and dismissing Greeks and Greece [Hellas] – still insist on claiming our treasures for its own.

    Yes, antiquity along with Christianity were the engines of the rise of a European civilisation but except for a few residual traces (‘stadia’ ‘museo’) the modern DC-based West bears no relation whatsoever to either starting point, and particularly not its ‘kultcha’ war being waged in US Soros-land.

    This early european patrimony was dramatically compromised by ‘the West’s vicious attacks on Byzantium and in the end radically dismantled by the engineered project of the so called ‘Enlightenment’ (this title being pure misdirection). 250 years later this project is complete. How sad then that ‘the West’s’ modern day Sorosian kultcha-warriors of the the “left” and “right” find so little to fight over in their own proudly separate heritage that they turn back to looting ours – despite there no longer being any connection except for its crimes and negative impulses.

  10. @Giuseppe

    Ancient infanticide was a cruel practice, but identical in rationale as the current practice of giving parents’ the choice of aborting fetuses with Down’s Syndrome, which liberals endorse. I do not believe that human life becomes sacrosanct the moment sperm touches ovule and I do believe we ought not, if we can prevent it, afflict our children with a deformed or deficient form of life. But of course other people are entitled to a different opinion and I respect that.

    • Replies: @Giuseppe
    , @David
  11. @Jim bob Lassiter

    US News and the others have some of the best statisticians in the magazine business.

    • Replies: @Jim bob Lassiter
  12. The publication wishes to “expose the errors, omissions, and distortions” of said groups and “articulate a politically progressive approach to the study of Greco-Roman antiquity.”

    Pharos does not explicitly say what it means by a “politically progressive approach.” However, browsing the website, one immediately sees they mean essentially left-wing identity politics, with a strong emphasis on homophilia, feminism, and multiculturalism.

    Nothing new about this. History has always been bent to serve and legitimise the present. In communist countries, past history was rewritten to serve emphasis on class warfare, past leaders cast as proletarian heroes. Makes sense for the current day globohomo powers that be to do the same.

  13. Jason Liu says:

    In some sectors of the history department (all of academia, actually), there are scholars dedicated entirely to re-interpreting history through the lens of racism, sexism, homophobia etc. This is what happens when the colleges aren’t purged every few decades.

  14. @ia

    “What began as an image of Thomas Jefferson or Voltaire has morphed into a beetle-faced, pregnant hermaphrodite.”

    Brilliant & tweeted!

  15. Is this legal and common in the United States?

    Not exactly legal, but definitely common and unchallenged.

    I do wonder if future historians will look at the break of the Anglo empire into several pieces will be akin to the division of the Roman Empire in the third century to make it more manageable. The ultimate rise of the Anerican zone would suggest it is the equivalent of Byzantium, which had a few fleeting years of glory in the late 6th century, but then stumbled along to an ignominious end 900 years later.

    • Replies: @Miro23
  16. Epigon says:

    with Remus killing his brother Romulus for jumping over the city wall

    You have it backwards – Romulus killed his twin brother Remus – Rome is derived from Romulus.

  17. Epigon says:

    Hellenes and Romans were the ultimate Jewish enemies.

    Half of Judaism revolves around Jewish terrorism and atrocities commited under Seleucid and Roman rule – from Maccabees (ISIS of antiquity), over Judas of Gamala (oy vey Roman census and taxation), to First Jewish-Roman War, the especially notorious Kitos War (note how bloodthirsty and savage was the Jewish “Diaspora” and how numerous and widespread they had become by that date) and final – Bar Kokhba Revolt – they would live in caves, let their beards grow wild, ambush and massacre caravans and non-Jewish civilians, engage in piracy as well.

    Hellenes/Hellenised people were the most common victim of Jewish revolts of Antiquity.

    Who would have guessed they would do their utmost to corrupt the tradition, history and memory of Hellenic and Roman civilizations and culture.

  18. @Jim bob Lassiter

    I know that US News College rankings shit show is a scam because I’m familiar with a couple of the institutions that they have highly overrated.

    Ditto for hospital rankings.

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  19. @Macon Richardson

    I misdirected my reply to you to myself. Approximately comment #19.

  20. Giuseppe says:
    @Guillaume Durocher

    Ancient infanticide was a cruel practice, but identical in rationale as the current practice of giving parents’ the choice of aborting fetuses with Down’s Syndrome, which liberals endorse.

    Exactly. But you hold simultaneous contradictory high and low views of human life, high enough to admire an “elevated biological state” that seems to be more than just biology because it exhibits “cultural heights,” and low enough to condone the killing of defective forms to make room for those without blemish. Have you embraced the one or the many?

    But of course other people are entitled to a different opinion and I respect that.

    Sorry, I won’t return the favor. There can be no moral equivalency between condoning infanticide and abominating it.

  21. @Giuseppe

    History is history. I neither judge nor condone. If you’ve a time machine you’re welcome to back tell the Athenians and Spartans of the error of their ways.

    • Agree: Anatoly Karlin
    • Replies: @Giuseppe
  22. bro3886 says:

    It’s good to remember that this cultural destruction is an aid toward physical genocide. Consciously. Nor can you separate it from the racial assault, rape, and murder whites suffer at the hands of the new colonialists.

  23. @Epigon

    It’s not any wonder that Greece is the most “anti-semitic” country in Europe.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_Greece

    • Replies: @Republic
    , @Anonymous
  24. The theory of Darwinism is a crock of shit.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Wizard of Oz
  25. @Epigon

    The Jews of the Old Testament are the same people as the Canaanites, Phoenicians and Carthaginians.

    Ethnically and culturally they’re all virtually the same, the different names are due to different political circumstances. (It’s like today’s Australia and New Zealand – technically, two different nations populated by ‘Australians’ and ‘New Zealanders’, even though they’re the same people ethnically.)

    So focusing on ‘Jews vs Romans’ is taking things out of context, Jews were part of a larger civilizational milieu.

    And of course, the so-called Jews of today have no relation whatsoever to Jews of the Old Testament. They’re nothing but LARP’ers.

  26. David says:
    @Guillaume Durocher

    Except the parents usually didn’t have a choice. This is from Plutarch on “Lykurgus.”

    A father had not the right of bringing up his offspring, but had to carry it to a certain place called Lesché, where the elders of the tribe sat in judgment upon the child. If they thought it well-built and strong, they ordered the father to bring it up, and assigned one of the nine thousand plots of land to it; but if it was mean-looking or misshapen, they sent it away to the place called the Exposure, a glen upon the side of Mount Täygetus; for they considered that if a child did not start in possession of health and strength, it was better both for itself and for the state that he should not live at all.

    • Replies: @Sean
  27. Republic says:
    @Anonymoose

    Yes, if the Zionist controlled Wikipedia says so, then it must be true!

  28. This is, presumably, because human beings are uniquely endowed with an exceptional capacity for reason and consciousness.

    I’m gonna have to stop you right there, on at least two counts.

    Count 1: the vast vast majority of human beings have almost no capacity for reason, and are barely conscious. The gap between the modal human and a human capable of both, is bigger than the gap between the modal human and a human with Downs Syndrome.

    Count 2: pace the assertion that animal sentience is simple anthropomorphism, the metrics used as the basis for claims that animals are not conscious, and/or do not reason, are entirely anthropomorphic.

    A society of chimpanzees would reject the idea that humans were special, because their tests would show that the mightiest adult human was a pissweak bag of meat whose tree-climbing ability was less than a baby chimp.

    A society of geese would come to a similar conclusion, because unaided humans can’t make transcontinental migratory flights or navigate by reading the earth’s magnetic field.

    A society of salmon… etc etc etc.

    Such research as has been done regarding animal cognition, cannot reasonably be said to show that animals are not self-aware. It shows that they do not provide evidence of self-awareness when faced with such tests as their captors devise… that lack of evidence may be due to actual absence of the trait, or it may be due to deliberate non-compliance.

  29. Miro23 says:
    @The Alarmist

    Some invariant rules about declining Empires seem to be:

    1) They become smaller (i.e. they break up). The centre weakens and alternative power centres reassert themselves (usually the traditional ones suppressed by Empire).

    2) The money goes bad with inflation and economic stresses.

    3) Military defeats or hopelessly costly wars.

    4) They fall behind technologically.

    5) They develop decadent elites disconnected from the public.

    The better designed Empires can last a long time (for example the Roman or British ones) by providing real benefits to Imperial citizens, but purely extractive ones dedicated to looting, for example, the current ZioGlobalist one, quickly collapse when they lose their coercive power.

    The ZioGlob is more Genghis Khan than Pax Romana.

    • Replies: @lloyd
  30. Anonymous[152] • Disclaimer says:
    @Giuseppe

    Rabbi Jewsus’s view of human life:

    • Matthew 24:19, Mark 13:17 , Luke 21:23 “Woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!”
    • Luke 23:29 “Blessed are the childless women, the wombs that never bore and the breasts that never nursed!”

    Rather Jewish! Wanna go another round, (((Christ)))cuck?

    • Replies: @Icy Blast
  31. anonymous[152] • Disclaimer says:
    @Giuseppe

    > condoning infanticide

    I see so many Christians talking about abortion being a crime against God. It’s not a wonder that they are hard pressed to find a conclusive biblical statement to corroborate their position…Numbers 31:17 (Moses) “Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every women that hath known man by lying with him.” In other words: women that might be pregnant, which clearly is abortion for the fetus.

    The Biblical God is NOT pro-life, he advocates child murder, infanticide, child abuse and abortion
    http://www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-home-page/god-is-not-pro-life/

    This is in the Holy Hook that you Jew-worshipers consider divine, meaning you condone infanticide. Mote and beam, people in glass houses, and all, you arrogantly stupid holy-roller.

  32. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:

    Western Universities are a den of anti Christian red sciences

    • Replies: @anon
  33. lloyd says: • Website
    @Miro23

    The Genghis Khan Empire lasted two hundred years, about the same time period as the British Empire. The Crusader Kingdoms lasted less than a hundred years. There are some parallels there with the Zio State.

  34. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous coward

    Obviously , Darwin wanted to replace God with ” evolution ” . And to justify the right of ” superior ” species to dominate or eliminate the ” inferior ” species ( that`s to say the right of ” superior ” anglogermanic races to dominate or eliminate other races ) .

    Very evil man Darwin , the monkey faced englishman .

  35. Anonymous[182] • Disclaimer says:

    Sometimes member of Lux-Economy here!

    his native Luxembourg which he headed for two decades, would not be able to thrive to the detriment of its neighbors as a tax haven

    It’s more that the neighbouring countries are tax hells and administrative death traps. Setting up a company in Luxembourg feels less like you are later being punished for your impudence by the State. Though it still feels like that.

    Sure, taxation sweet deals direct-with-the-minister for “Big US Animals” are to be despised. But otherwise, it’s a Delaware thing: for normal companies, taxation is viable. A lot of companies that could well be located a few tens of kilometres away prefer to make the hop. It’s not unusual for non-letterbox companies to be staffed at 100% French/Belgium personnel. You better speak french.

    Otherwise, Luxembourg is – sadly – not a tax haven. It is a member of the EURO death cult. Bank account interests rates at 0 (i.e. lower). VAT is at 17% (formerly and for decades at 15% but neighbouring tax hells were unhappy about that). Income tax at 33%+, inheritance taxes, and I don’t know what else — the hoi polloi pays. Fuel prices are relatively low though. Gasoline currently is at ~5.4 USD/gal, lower than abroad (France: ~6.6 USD/gal (wut?); Germany/Belgium: ~6.2 USD/gal). This is decades-old tradition and a whole tanking industry has sprung up around low fuel prices. You can’t pass the (no longer extant) border custom house without bumping into a fuel station full of trucks. Housing is unaffordable, it’s bubbling like crazy. Now prospective Brexit refugees are parachuting in. For some reason, the South Asian population is growing, too. “Special visa” issuance, eh. American “tech” companies are gonna H1B.

    What else?

    The Euro employees working in European Multistore Buildings can live well, they are taxed according to some kind of special regime. You can get tax rebates on company and personal cars – seriously this must be the non-arabic country with the highest density of Porsche 4x4s in the world. Nigerian-managed economics is mainly restricted to the approaches of the capital main train station. Organized crime is organized but not apparent. The state apparatus, including the judiciary, is getting apparently steadily more corrupt and self-serving.

    Oh yeah, the feelers for anti-semitism, anti-racism, anti-egalitarianism are at 120%. You better not say anything bad, especially on camera. OTOH, I suspect antifa would be “disinvited” from the streets rapidly should they decide to show up.

    Just another YT country getting long in the teeth, being accused by the run-down neighbours of behaving badly.

  36. eah says:
    @Jim bob Lassiter

    The third question: Unfortunately, yes.

    Perhaps you didn’t count/number the questions entirely correctly: the only ‘Yes/No’ question is this one: Is this legal and common in the United States?, which is actually a two-part question (legal and common), both parts of which could be answered ‘Yes/No’ — while many would agree that, looking at it philosophically, it is at least somewhat unfortunate that such thinking and activity is common (in academia), it is not really unfortunate that it’s legal.

    It seems most places of higher learning are tax-exempt 501(c)(3) organizations — it also appears the Pharos pages are hosted on the main Vassar web site — I’m not a lawyer, but I don’t think (essentially political activity/commentary) like what you see on Pharos is or should be illegal — here is what the IRS says:

    Under the Internal Revenue Code, all section 501(c)(3) organizations are absolutely prohibited from directly or indirectly participating in, or intervening in, any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for elective public office. Contributions to political campaign funds or public statements of position (verbal or written) made on behalf of the organization in favor of or in opposition to any candidate for public office clearly violate the prohibition against political campaign activity. Violating this prohibition may result in denial or revocation of tax-exempt status and the imposition of certain excise taxes.

    • Replies: @eah
  37. eah says:
    @eah

    And to remove any doubt (if there was any) about where Vassar officially stands on the matter — from the Pharos web site’s ‘Contact’ page:

    Curtis Dozier is the director of Pharos: Doing Justice to the Classics, with the support of the Vassar College Department of Greek and Roman Studies and the Vassar College Office of Communications.

  38. Sean says:
    @David

    The Spartans ran out of men to fight though. Maybe their child rearing practices and incentives to raise the birthrate were logical, but when it comes to the most basic thing (reproduction) logic would seem to be counterproductive. Some have argued that Ancient Greece perished as a direct result of their knowledge increasing and providing them with an increasingly accurate understanding of the the world. Christianity offered fresh adaptive myths.

    • Replies: @Epigon
    , @anon
    , @Anonymouser
  39. Correlation or causation? The collapse of our political institutions; the ideological rot of the universities….

    http://fosterspeak.blogspot.com/2017/09/post-charlottesville-we-are-on-our-own.html

  40. Epigon says:
    @Sean

    Wasn’t the cause of Spartan downfall the equal, female inheritance?
    You needed significant land holdings and Helot count to be able to afford full war panoply and participate in daily exercises, drills and seasonal campaigns – as opposed to farming to sustain yourself.

    So the number of Spartiate class dwindled as large holdings were divided into ever more households which started being too small to provide for a Spartan hoplite – they rose to prominence after conquering and enslaving neighbours, which means they needed continuous expansion and conquest to preserve their ways – predatory state/empire like Romans, Arabs, Seljuks, Mongols, Ottomans – once the influx of slaves and loot, new land stopped – the decline started.

  41. @ia

    Just stop believing in the human rights god. Stop worrying about being called racist, sexist, homophobic, and so forth.

    You may be speaking of educated white men. We working class Deplorables are already there. We have less to unlearn.

  42. Icy Blast says:
    @Anonymous

    In the passages you have cited, you idiot, Jesus is talking about the misery that is coming to the inhabitants of Jerusalem when three Roman legions close in on the city in 70A.D. If you didn’t rely on Jack Chick pamphlets for your understanding of Christianity, you clown, you would know this. The early Christians who heeded Jesus’s words, which were passed on to them orally, fled to the city of Pella in present-day Jordan when the siege began, and survived the total destruction of Jerusalem. Wanna go another round, dumbass?

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Wizard of Oz
  43. mp says:

    This begs questions however…

    First, begging the question is a logical error, which means arguing or accepting a premise as true, before it has been established as true. I guess it has also become a loose way of saying, ‘this raises a question, however…’

    Second, anytime anyone uses not very clearly defined words such as ‘hate’, ‘racist’, ‘sexist’, ‘homophobic’ ‘anti-semitic’, in their discourse, they have from the get-go grounded their argument normatively, and it makes little sense debating them over it.

    The idea that Greeks were liberals (in the context of 1789) is risible, and anyone thinking such a thing has no idea what they are talking about. Compare Plato’s Laws, and his restrictions on foreigners, as just one of many examples of Greek anti-liberalism. In fact, the very idea of ‘liberalism’ in the context of ancient Greece is an anachronism.

    How have human beings achieved such an elevated biological state? How did our civilizations, ancient and modern, reach the cultural heights that they did? Try to be honest…

    The idea that ‘culture’ is a ‘biological’ manifestation is wrongheaded from the get-go. The idea that our civilization is ‘elevated’ is also wrongheaded. We are in a period of decline, due to a materialism which denies spirit. In any case, decline is a cyclical process (as ancient Greeks well knew); and like previous culture-civilizations that have died and been replaced with something else, it will happen to us, the same. Only someone deluded by ideas of ‘evolution’ and ‘progress’ could think otherwise.

    That said, the Right should learn from antiquity, inasmuch as previous declines can be used to help navigate a path forward, among and through the ruins.

    • Replies: @eah
  44. @Sean

    You might find these books interesting.

    Dutton
    _At Our Wits End_

    John R. Hale.
    _Lords of the Sea: The Epic Story of the Athenian Navy and the Birth of Democracy_

    The limited life of empires / peoples is vaguely reminiscent of one of the answers to Fermi’s Paradox: Were the ancient empires were killed of by some uniform process, a variant on the Great Filter?

    Counterinsurgency

  45. For the record, at the tender age of 17, I was taken advantage of by a 23 y/o female graduate of Vassar. They are twisted.

    • Replies: @ricpic
  46. anon[152] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Cuckianity is the den of anti-western Reds.

    • “Each according to his ability.” Matthew 25:15
    • “Not one of them claimed that anything belonging to him was his own, but all things were common property to them.” Acts 4:32
    • “And distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.” Acts 4:35
    • “The daily distribution.” Acts 6:1
    • “Your liberal distribution.” 2 Corinthians 9:13

  47. anonymous[152] • Disclaimer says:
    @Icy Blast

    > Jesus is talking about

    Funny how you can always explain away the plain meaning of a the anti-family, perverted Jewish Rabbi you worship. He hated anyone who loved family, kin, or just their own land.

    • “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters–yes, even their own life–such a person cannot be my disciple.” -Luke 14:26
    • “And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name’s sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.” -Matthew 19:29

    Wanna go another round, Christcuck?

  48. anon[152] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    > Christianity offered fresh adaptive myths.

    Not hardly.

    • “It is better not to marry!” (Matthew 19:10)
    • “Choose to live like eunuchs.” (Matthew 19:12)
    • “Neither marry nor be given in marriage.” (Matthew 22:30)
    • “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” (1 Corinthians 7:1)
    • “Stay unmarried.” (1 Corinthians 7:8)

    How would not marrying be “adaptive” to low birth rates, hmm?

  49. @Jim bob Lassiter

    The Sunday Times runs a similar scam on my side of the Atlantic. I was disgusted to learn that my own Alma Mater is rated in the top 25 in the world by the newspaper. Standards were sliding in the 1980s when I was attending. When I went back a few years on temporary contract work, standards had fallen drastically and the quality of academic staff was poor. Several of my lecturers were actually top rank academics. The present incumbents are mainly low grade academic hacks.
    It does make you think what the standard is like in really poor colleges and universities.

    • Replies: @Jim bob Lassiter
  50. @Anon

    Have you read anything Darwin wrote? It doesn’t sound as though you have. And even his religious opponents didn’t call him evil. Are you aware of what he wrote, when a young man travelling on the Be able, about the evil of slavery in Brazil?

  51. @anonymous coward

    What is “the theory of Darwinism” to which you refer? It must be something rather different from what biologists learn when they study evolution.

  52. @Icy Blast

    Interesting about the Christians fleeing Jerusalem when the siege began and escaping to Pella. As Jesus was long dead who or what led them to save themselves that way? Are there any good sources you would recommend? And how do the figures stack up compared with non Christian inhabitants of Jerusalem? Also, how DoD their numbers compare with those of Pauline Christians?

  53. @Verymuchalive

    Well, fancy that; it looks like we’re all internationalists. Ain’t it great?

  54. @dearieme

    As a matter of detail I believe there was another wall built further north which didn’t last for nearly as long as Hadrian’s Wall.

  55. Anonymous[452] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    Spengler is nonsense because he was conned by (((Boas))) into believing that immigrants physiologies (brain structure to include intelligence) changes when they immigrate to a more advanced culture. Therefore he decided that it was not the infiltration of inferior blood that was the problem but that civilisations are like biological entities-thay they are born, reach maturity and die.

    The real reason for the decline of the west is the infiltration of inferior stocks (of whom Jews are the most prolific and harmful) and the abandonment of the conditions that led to greatness in the first place i.e industrialisation leading to dysgenics.

    Our helpful commenter here would have it that civilisations are spenglerian- that they have a life cycle and that there is nothing that can be done to stop their inevitable death. All the better of course to excuse the Jews. The reality is that western civilisation was on the brink of fighting off dysgenics with darwinism (which as the author notes is in harmony with our ancestor’s instincts) when a Jewish cabal led by (((Franz Boas))) deliberately sidelined darwinism in the social sciences and started preaching the egalitarianism that people now pretend is somehow an innate White people instinct (and therefore of course that Whites are to blame for their own destruction).

    The reality is of course is if Russian Jews had been forbidden from emigrating to the United States and subverting science then darwinism might have become the ideology of the west and the issue of dysgenics would not have been present. After that Whites might have been able to do something about the infiltration of inferior stocks determined to subvert their civilisation-but then again I think that might very much have been (((Boaz’s))) point.

    To all those here who think that civilisations are just doomed no matter what please think on the topic of the Byzantine empire. As Eustace mullins once commented it is not taught about in schools and universities today because it is an example of what happens when the infiltrations of Jews are controlled. They were not allowed to control the money supply or infiltrate the civil service or indoctrinate the young. The empire was just a continuation of old Rome relocated to the east to capture trade flows from China. In other words the Roman empire continued on another thousand years after everyone tends to think it did. It lasted one thousand years and was only finally destroyed when Jews let the Turks in through the Jewish qiarter of Constantinople.

    Food for thought.

  56. Anonymous[452] • Disclaimer says:
    @Titus

    I always assume it is the Jews and I have never once been wrong.

  57. Anonymous[452] • Disclaimer says:
    @ia

    ‘White men don’t really need to do much in order to turn things around. Just stop believing in the human rights god. Stop worrying about being called racist, sexist, homophobic, and so forth.’

    White men don’t need to worry about being destroyed. White men don’t need to worry about being hounded out of a job and being made unemployable. White men do not need to worry about the ADL. White men do not need to worry about Antifa mobs. White men just need to stop being so cowardly. When you think about it White people are just doing this to themselves.

    • Replies: @ia
  58. Anonymous[452] • Disclaimer says:
    @Epigon

    ‘ambush and massacre caravans and non-Jewish civilians’

    To be fair their main target was actually hellenised Jews.

  59. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:
    @ia

    Human rights , human rights ….. and human duties ??? , rights without duties ??? , the formula to chaos , ruin and alienantion , the loss of common sense .

    Durocher , you french , planted the seeds of the ruin of europe with your french revolution ( and the english who promoted it ), with your bloody napoleonic wars , and with your ( fake and idiotic ) libertè , egalitè , fraternitè

  60. Anonymous[452] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymoose

    I had Greek inlaws once. They amazed me (this was when I just was becoming red pilled) because although they were not anti-semitic in the steyotypical manner (bitter or angry at individual Jews or the Jewish collective) they basically took it for granted that Jews were duplicitous treacherous people and that Judaism was an evil pseudo religion and that organised Jewry was the devil incarnate. They were not obsessive but the most politically incorrect thing in the west that most people are not aware of they just took as being a fact of life.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  61. @Anon

    Do you like meat from farms?

    Would you like to go back to a world where selective breeding for better quality produce was abandoned?

    If not why not?

  62. anon[152] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Obviously, you Jew-worshipers would rather believe the Jewish storytellers’ Holy Hook about Jewhovah creating everything, rather than accept the reality of nature as explained by a white, European scientist.

    • Replies: @Anon
  63. @Epigon

    ‘they rose to prominence after conquering and enslaving neighbours, which means they needed continuous expansion and conquest to preserve their ways – predatory state/empire like Romans, Arabs, Seljuks, Mongols, Ottomans – once the influx of slaves and loot, new land stopped – the decline started.’

    Like the Roman empire conquering the Celts I suppose.

  64. @Sean

    ‘Christianity offered fresh adaptive myths’

    90+ percent of the literature of the ancient world is gone. The rest was preserved by Christianity. How adaptive was that?

    • Replies: @anon
  65. ricpic says:

    I’ll bet Victor David Hanson is persona non grata at Pharos.

  66. ricpic says:
    @Jim bob Lassiter

    But it was worth it, right…right?

    • Replies: @Jim bob Lassiter
  67. onebornfree says: • Website

    G. Durocher says: “University Using Classics to Promote Left-Wing Agenda”

    Kerrrrist! Whodathunkit?

    State funded “education” center uses position to promote, ta-da! more state funded education [and more state-funded everything else, I’ve no doubt 🙂 ]!

    So what’ the solution in Mr Durochers opinion? Let me guess- more state funded “right wing” “education” right?

    Well, “stupid is as stupid does”, as always.

    In the US, at least, there is no constitutional provision for state funding of any “education”. Neither is there for welfare, environmental “protection”, health “care”, “equality” to name but a few.

    And yet, here we are [despite the glaring, in our faces fact that state funding of anything actually destroys/perverts that thing], forever arguing about which government department needs even more state funding of the supposedly “right” kind : is it gonna be “education”? farming? “healthcare”? welfare? “immigration control? Should that funding be more “left-wing” ? , or should it be more “right-wing”?

    Makes no difference, [of course] because :

    “Government is a disease masquerading as its own cure” Robert LeFevere

    “Taking the State wherever found, striking into its history at any point, one sees no way to differentiate the activities of its founders, administrators and beneficiaries from those of a professional-criminal class.” Albert J. Nock

    “Everything government touches turns to crap” Ringo Starr

    “The kind of man who wants the government to adopt and enforce his ideas is always the kind of man whose ideas are idiotic” H.L.Mencken

    In the US [screw France!] get government out of education [and everything else it has unconstitutionally stuck its nose into] , NOW..

    Regards, onebornfree

  68. Khepra says:

    “@ia

    “What began as an image of Thomas Jefferson or Voltaire has morphed into a beetle-faced, pregnant hermaphrodite.”

    Brilliant & tweeted!”

    I am afraid the joke is on you. The Greeks were called “children” by the Egyptians and it appears there is indeed a vast difference between IQ and wisdom. Like semites who have to take everything literally, on this very day of all days in the liturgical calendar of Ancient Egypt, when at the exact hour! the children if Jefferson stepped on tbe moon!.

  69. AaronB says:
    @Epigon

    Um, you are aware that both the Romans and the Greeks invaded Israel?

    The Greeks got their butts kicked, and the Romans had to recall their best general and fight a difficult and long war to keep their grip on this foreign land.

    But you are correct that Israel and Greece-Rome represent two distinct archetypal oppositions – the power of spirit, moraity, the whole mind, and the heart vs the biological- physical, cold reason, the intellect, and brute strength.

    Of course, the lines are not so stark, and both cultures were often influenced by elements of the other.

    In the end, every culture has to mediate between these two elements.

    • Replies: @Epigon
    , @John Regan
  70. Epigon says:
    @AaronB

    Um, you are aware that both the Romans and the Greeks invaded Israel?

    No, they didn’t.
    Hellenes conquered Achaemenid Empire.
    Romans gradually absorbed Seleucid and Ptolemaic Diadochi realms, which included Israel and Judea, with an interim client kingdom.

    Jews were utilized as auxiliaries by both Diadochi states – irregular light infantry skirmishers and raiders. Religious tribal primitives are good at this.

    The Greeks got their butts kicked, and the Romans had to recall their best general and fight a difficult and long war to keep their grip on this foreign land.

    No, they didn’t. The dynastic/civil war struggle of the weakened Seleucid (post-defeat at the hands of Romans) state was the setting.
    The later Jewish accounts are works of fiction because the Seleucid armies were at the time busy fighting rebel satraps and throne contenders and were not invading Judea and Israel.

    Romans were caught wrong footed in post-Augustan peaceful setting by a massive, nationwide rebellion – their local forces were vastly outnumbered.
    Once real Roman forces arrived, Jews avoided open combat and hence a lengthy series of sieges and “pacification” operations took place.

    There was nothing difficult or masterly in this – the outcome was predictable and only a matter of time.

    Regarding Kitos War and Bar Kokhba – this is where Romans learned their lesson and decided to take no more chances with these absolutely sadistic and merciless people who murdered everyone around them from Cyrenaica to Alexandria, Cyprus and Levant. If I remember correctly, Jews were banned from coming to Cyprus for centuries all the way to Modern period.

    I am sure the rabbis learned their lesson as well and spread it to future generations.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  71. Republic says:

    So what else is new? Classical studies have now been infected by cultural Marxists

    Here is an account of a woman who was kicked out of meeting for being politically incorrect at an annual conference of classical studies

    https://quillette.com/2019/02/26/how-i-was-kicked-out-of-the-society-for-classical-studies-annual-meeting/

    How I was Kicked Out of the Society for Classical Studies Annual Meeting

    Short version,too many white men too few people of color in the classics

  72. ia says:
    @Anonymous

    When you think about it White people are just doing this to themselves.

    That’s precisely what I’m saying.

    Are you suggesting that a tiny, hostile group is able to dominate white men without their consent? That doesn’t say much for white men does it? If I were Jewish I’d be mighty flattered.

    • Agree: AaronB
    • Replies: @Anonymouser
    , @Ron Unz
  73. Harbinger says:
    @ia

    “White men don’t really need to do much in order to turn things around. Just stop believing in the human rights god. Stop worrying about being called racist, sexist, homophobic, and so forth.”

    Erm….can I ask where you’ve been of late?
    Now, I’m not from the US of A, but I can clearly see that Anti Defamation Created, Hate Speech legislation has now trumped the American first amendment. Everything above now means that you could very well end up arrested and in a court room. Whether you’re found guilty is another matter, but what the whole rigmarole of this, along with the psychological trauma of arrest, court and of course solicitor fees, is programming society NOT to say ‘racist, sexist, homophobic and so forth comments’.

    People are stupid. They go on social media, already having signed their name, THUS, creating a contract with the social media outlet, to abide by their rules and regulations. They fail to see that these rules and regulations will include no ‘hate speech’, which as everyone knows is anything that offends people. Calling a homosexual a poof, a transgender man to woman (impossibility) a sir, or telling a woman she should be pumping out babies, instead of worshipping Mammon, as she chases her career in whatever will, to them, be offensive behaviour and thus deemed as hate speech. Regardless whether it’s the truth doesn’t matter. The Jews created the concept. The Jews control the police and the judiciary. The Jews control the msm and medial outlets they use to monitor and trap the public. Expect to be arrested for hate speech, as this is going to grow and grow.

    The only way you’re going to stop the advance of the authoritarian, Jewish world order is all out civil war. That means arming yourselves, civil unrest, conflict against the police, not paying any taxes, bringing society to a halt. “He who controls the spice controls the universe” to borrow a quote from Baron Vladimir Harkonnen from Frank Herbert’s Dune, is correct in that it most certainly parallels the financial system here on this earth. If you destroy the flow of cash, you destroy those in charge.
    This is the only way that you are going to stop this behemoth from smashing everything in its wake, as it installs its authoritarian, totalitarian world state.
    You CANNOT win through the political system.
    The msm and academia are completely controlled by Jews and this is their main propaganda, brainwashing and indoctrination outlets.
    They control sports and all entertainment.
    They’re destroying life through big pharma and vaccines, not forgetting poisoning of our food and water.
    The police protect the Jews.
    The Jews rule through the control of the monetary system.
    Destroy both and you destroy the Jews. It’s really that simple.

    We have a choice – we wither destroy the Jews, taking away all power and influence, or THEY WILL destroy us and 95% of the world’s population. This is their goal. There’s no better reason for all out war against them.

    • Replies: @ia
  74. AaronB says:
    @Epigon

    Absolutely sadistic and murderous – they just would not let the Romans “peacefully” invade and conquer them, and force them to worship images of the emperor 🙂

    Such terrible people, those Jews. And we see the same disgusting behavior today, with Jews standing up for themselves.

    But we know Jews never learn.

    And as for the Hellenes, why, they were not imperialists and world conquerors at all. The Hellenistic Kingdoms were peacefully acquired and Hellenes were occupying and ruling Israel and trying to give them the benefits of their wonderful culture, like naked gymnastic competitions.

    Once again the ungrateful murderous Jews rejected these wonderful benefits and simply would not submit.

    Just awful people.

    But I do agree that the ancient Jews could not match the military and political organization and ability to mobilize vast numbers of men and resources of the Greeks and Romans.

    Preoccupied with God and matters of the spirit – primitive religious people as you call them – they were indeed somewhat anarchic and too loosely organized for large scale military success, and not practical enough.

    In fact Jews were never great at large scale military operations, but rather excelled at producing small groups of men and individuals committing feats of great daring, audacity, and ingenuity, as well as great loyalty and devotion.

    This is somewhat true even of Israel today.

    The extraordinary performance of the Jews against the massive world-conquering behemoths of their times were triumphs of the spirit, not practical organization.

    So I do agree that large feats of practical organization were much more the province of the great ancient empires than of the Jews.

    • Replies: @Anonymouser
  75. ia says:
    @Harbinger

    Thanks for your comment. See my reply to anon above.

    • Replies: @Harbinger
  76. Harbinger says:
    @ia

    With all due respect it does nothing to answer anything of what I’ve stated. Hate speech for example is now in full force, not just in the USA but Europe.

    “Are you suggesting that a tiny, hostile group is able to dominate white men without their consent?”

    Yes, they are. It’s called the legal system. It’s called the police. It’s called the political system. It’s called academia. Many white men are not consenting to this but what’s happening about it?
    “I doth protest” says the white man.
    “Duly noted and ignored” says the Jew.

    Regardless how you want to look at it, this is reality. The Jew IS in power. The Jew has completely changed and in many cases utterly destroyed the very psyche of the European peoples, through constant destruction of their culture, simply by it not being taught to younger generations, to the point that the overwhelming majority are unknowing globalists.
    White man HAS allowed the Jew to control them. This is the reality and I very much agree with that statement, but the matter of changing it I disagree. Those who understand how the legal system works, through the power of consent know that it’s a sham. However, that is a tiny minority of not just the US, but the western population as a whole.

    Civil war is the only answer to removing the Jews from power. You will not win this by using their political and legal system and it is theirs, hook, line and sinker.

    • Replies: @Anonymouser
    , @Anonymouser
  77. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    The monkey faced Darwin ” a white european scientist ” , hahahahhahaha

    hahahahahahhaha ,

    a ” scientist ” , an english scientist , hahahhahahahhahaha , hahahhahahahahha

    how fun , really this web is fantastic , sometimes hillarious ,

    Thank you Unz , thank you very much for your web

  78. Alfred says:
    @dearieme

    I lived in Carlisle for 12 months. It is very close to Hadrian’s Wall. I have visited several sections of the Wall. If my recollection is correct, the ancestors of the Scots fought naked and were covered in blue tattoos. Hardly a civilized people. It can be awfully cold and windy in that location.

    It took a while on the internet to find this reference to them. Clearly it is not 100% PC. Just imagine how much real history has been hidden.

    The Mystery of Hadrian’s Wall

    http://www.strangehistory.net/2013/10/06/the-mystery-of-hadrians-wall/

    Interestingly, the “Roman” defenders were not elite soldiers. They were often from the countries that formed the Roman Empire. They had soldiers from places like today’s Syria. They had a functioning postal system to keep in touch with their families.

  79. @Giuseppe

    There can be no moral equivalency between condoning infanticide and abominating it.

    Christianity has, from its start, abominated infanticide. Dutton, _At Our Witts’ End_ [0], attributes our current level of civilization to abominating infanticide. Very roughly speaking: Previous civilizations tried the Hapsburg gambit: have few children, but marry cousins and consolidate family power. This resulted in population decline and inbreeding, which led to civilizational decline. Christians didn’t do that, so we got the solution in G. Clark’s _A Farewell to Alms: an upper class that out-bred the middle and lower class, and whose children out-competed the middle and lower class children to form the relatively talented working class that (in conjunction with upper and middle class capital) produced the Industrial Revolution starting c.a. AD 1800. Once again Christianity comes through; it’s also responsible for the survival of the classical Greek idea of rationally provable truths that are not subject to opinion (e.g. Euclidean Geometry, use of Aristotle’s criteria for textural interpretation), and the idea of an unchanging set of rules for the physical universe grounded in God’s keeping His word.

    But that didn’t stop infanticide, it just changed the emphasis. In the colder parts of Europe all or most infants were dipped in cold water after being born, if cold water was available [1]. The practice was called “toughening”, and was said to greatly increase the health of the matured adult who has, as a baby, been dipped in cold water. Which it did — a baby with serious mutational load wouldn’t survive the experience. Note the intellectual two-step: the practice was _not_ intended to kill weak babies, it was intended to produce strong and healthy adults.
    From this perspective, the problem with screening for “bad genes” is defining “bad”. The cold water test defined “bad” in terms of general health. Genetic screening would define “bad” arbitrarily, and there is no way whatsoever to predict what “bad” would mean. If it means “dumb but fertile and handsome/beautiful with athletic ability”, there goes industrial civilization (and genetic screening, so maybe H. Sap. would survive the genetic testing interlude).

    By the same token, consider what unrestricted breeding does to animal stock. Genetic load goes up rapidly. Same with H. Sap [2]. Dutton [0] credits genetic load for what he estimates as 1 IQ point/decade decline since c.a. AD 1850 in Europe, when infant mortality first fell enough to enable the European population’s ascent [3]. _Something_ has to be done, and the usual “something” has been a return to barbarism for several centuries. That’s one way to do it, but is somehow unappealing to me. “Black powder and alcohol” is a lot better as a filk song and a video game than it is in real life, IMHO. Others differ with me there.

    Yet another conundrum, no? Line from TV series _Andromeda_; “Why is it never easy?”.

    Counterinsurgency

    0] Dutton.
    “At Our Witts’ end”
    Search Amazon to see more.

    1] “Cold Water for Babies?”.
    https://ownyourhealth.me/2008/07/01/cold-water-for-babies/
    _Your Own Health_, 2008/07/01
    A current posting that documents continued use of cold water exposure, although not to the extent that it was practiced in pre-industrial societies.

    2] Michael Link.
    “Mutation and Human Exceptionalism: Our Future Genetic Load”.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4788123/
    _ Genetics_. 2016 Mar; 202(3): 869–875.
    Published online 2016 Mar 2. doi: 10.1534/genetics.115.180471; PMCID: PMC4788123;
    PMID: 2695326

    3] Chinese population started to climb at about the same time as the English agricultural revolution, AD 1750 (“China’s population, A.D. 0 – 2050 “, china-Profile,http://www.china-profile.com /data/fig_pop_0-2050.htm), but did not start the Industrial Revolution skyrocket until c.a. AD 1950, about a century after the UK started its skyrocket. That might explain the IQ difference between Europe and China. Not that China is smart, but that Europe has become dumb.
    For that matter, Dutton [0] points out that the Islamic world during its Golden Age [4] showed a much greater cognitive ability than did the Islamic world in the aftermath of Mongol rule. As with the Christians in the late Roman Empire, when all rational thought failed to preserve life, faith succeeded [5], and cognitive ability became a non-survival trait (rather like today, don’t you know). In Christianity, rational thought retained its prestige, in Islamic society rational thought became associated with the heresy of trying to set limits to Allah’s power and freedom [6].

    4] The Golden Age ended c.a. AD 1219 with the Mongol invasion which destroyed Baghdad and quite a bit else. The causus belli was (my opinion) a _really_ dumb decision to insult and expel with bodily injury the Mongol traders at Baghdad. “You don’t tug on Superman’s cape, etc.”.

    5] A. E. Houseman
    “Epitaph for an army of mercenaries”
    https://www.poemtree.com/poems/EpitaphOnAnArmy.htm
    Not exactly faith but faithfulness. Brains aren’t always the decisive factor.

    6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Incoherence_of_the_Philosophers

  80. @ia

    I notice you ignore the rest of my comment.

    And yes a tiny collective covertly hostile minority is more than able to dominate a larger individualist majority especially when they use deciet and immoral tactics including but not limited to preaching openness and tolrenace for other people but practicing secrecy and intolerance among themselves.

    When jews pracise tribal politics it is only just and when White people do the same it is called Nazism.

    But you were jusy kicked out of every European country you have ever settled in for no reason right?

  81. @AaronB

    ‘Absolutely sadistic and murderous – they just would not let the Romans “peacefully” invade and conquer them, and force them to worship images of the emperor’

    Tut tut tut someone needs to brush up on their hasbara manual. The ancient Romans allowed (in true pagan fashion) any tribe or group to follow their own gods so long as they were compatible (meaning not outright hostile to the empire) with Rome. Hardly any group had a problem with this except the Jews who started a war and got invaded for their troubles.

  82. @Harbinger

    It isnt designed to. Its just snark from some Jew who blames Whites. You can forget the respect.

  83. @Harbinger

    ‘“Are you suggesting that a tiny, hostile group is able to dominate white men without their consent?”

    Yes, they are. It’s called the legal system. It’s called the police. It’s called the political system. It’s called academia. Many white men are not consenting to this but what’s happening about it?
    “I doth protest” says the white man.
    “Duly noted and ignored” says the Jew.’

    Its called infiltration, manipulation and exploitation. Thats what its called. Come on man read your Revilo oliver.

    • Replies: @Harbinger
  84. If you think “university professors skew towards leftism,” then try to get them to agitate for fair play for adjuncts. You’ll see a ferocious conservative suddenly raising its ugly head from the tenured ones.

    • Replies: @Jim bob Lassiter
  85. Harbinger says:
    @Anonymouser

    “Its called infiltration, manipulation and exploitation. Thats what its called. Come on man read your Revilo oliver.”

    And have the Jews NOT infiltrated and manipulated politics, the legal system, the police and academia, thus exploiting the people with them?

  86. Ron Unz says:
    @ia

    Are you suggesting that a tiny, hostile group is able to dominate white men without their consent? That doesn’t say much for white men does it? If I were Jewish I’d be mighty flattered.

    Hmmm. Here’s a question for you…

    Mammals, especially primates such as humans, are the most intelligent members of the animal kingdom, with the largest and most complex brains, thereby clearly representing the peak of evolution.

    By contrast, viruses obviously have no brains at all, and it really isn’t clear whether or not they should even be regarded as “living” entities.

    Yet it’s certainly true that people or other mammals infected with rabies are “dominated” by the rabies virus, with their behavior under its control, ultimately resulting in their death.

    So here’s a question for you. What percentage of the body-weight of a rabies-infected person consists of the virus?…

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @ia
  87. @AaronB

    But you are correct that Israel and Greece-Rome represent two distinct archetypal oppositions – the power of spirit, mora[l]ity, the whole mind, and the heart vs the biological- physical, cold reason, the intellect, and brute strength.

    The Greco-Roman historian Cassius Dio gives a very good example of this in ancient times in the Historia Romana:

    Meanwhile the Jews in the region of Cyrene had put one Andreas at their head and were destroying both the Romans and the Greeks. They would cook their flesh, make belts for themselves of their entrails, anoint themselves with their blood, and wear their skins for clothing…. In Egypt, also, they performed many similar deeds, and in Cyprus…. For this reason no Jew may set foot in that land, but if even one of them is driven upon the island by force of the wind, he is put to death.

    • Replies: @Guillaume Durocher
  88. @Anonymous

    they basically took it for granted that Jews were duplicitous treacherous people

    A bit of projection. Greeks are crooks.

  89. @ricpic

    The jury is still out on that one. Let’s just say it by song with a notation that the chewing up and spitting out was over and done with in about three hours instead of all night.

  90. anon[152] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Jew-worshipers like you always blame everything but Jew-worship for the ruin of Europe.

  91. anon[152] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymouser

    byin spite of – FIFY!

    The most influential of ancient literature being De Rerum Natura (On the Nature of Things) by Lucretius was preserved by keeping it away from Church eyes, as documented in the text The Swerve : How the World Became Modern (UK title: The Swerve : How the Renaissance Began) by Stephen Greenblatt (W.W. Norton, 2011.)

  92. @Anon

    Look, I’d be one of the first around here to jump into some Froggy’s shit, but I haven’t noticed anything that Durocher publishes here that indicates he’s all that proud of The French Revolution of yore or of the clown world currently being lived in France.

  93. AaronB says:
    @Ron Unz

    People only get bitten by rabies if they set aside all caution and defenses and go among sick dogs, which means such people are probably suffering some sort of mental derangement prior to getting rabies.

    There was a case recently of some Dutch or Norweigan girl dying recently from rabies after playing with some animals in a third world country, or perhaps she got bitten by a snake she approached – commenters on this site were all saying how her behavior reflected the decadence of modern Western culture and its loss of all capacity to engage with reality.

    So it isn’t that a small group cannot control a majority – its that the majority must be suffering from some sort of mental derangement for this to begin to happen at all.

    Considering that the key concepts and ideas Jews supposedly use to control whites are all white ideas developed in the Enlightenment, and that well before Jews came to prominence white intellectuals had developed a culture of nihilism and self hate, it would seem that the problem is a self inflicted one, and not outside takeover.

    As ia says, the notion that the strongest and most intellectually developed civilization the world has ever known can simply be overtaken from the outside by Jews is deeply humiliating to whites and deeply flattering to Jews.

    It has far reaching implications – in the age of globalism and modern communication systems, it suggests that Jews might be able to control whites even of they no longer physically live among them.

    Finally, it is a message of despair for whites – if their travails are not the result of a self inflicted mistake in their cultural evolution, then they have shown themselves to be unalterably vulnerable in the competition for life, and a race doomed to defeat.

    You are selling whites poison.

    • Replies: @John Regan
  94. @obwandiyag

    I haven’t seen you lately around these parts. That’s a refreshingly astute observation coming from you.

  95. @John Regan

    The pre-Christian criticism of Jews one finds among the Romans – Cicero, Seneca.. – is very striking indeed. They had an experience of innumerable peoples, yet the Jews stuck out as by far the most fanatical and tribal.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @Anonymoose
  96. Richard B says:
    @BengaliCanadianDude

    “selective” “11th best”

    Whatever.

    What matters is whether or not they are being taught

    Rigorous Thinking – Consistent Reasoning – Cautious Judgment.

    What matters is whether or not they’re learning emotional detachment and intellectual insight.

    What matters is whether or not they’re learning the difficult skills associated with high-level problem-solving and significant innovation (not limited to technology).

    What matters is whether or not they’re learning the behaviors associated with the above, such as prolonged problem exposure and solution postponement.

    And of course they’re not.

    Anyway, regarding admissions, here’s a great article on the subject from Tucker Carlson Neil Patel.

    I’d refer you to the video. But the graduates of these “select” schools took it down.

    https://www.takimag.com/article/college-admissions-are-rigged-in-favor-of-prominent-democrats/

  97. Harbinger says:
    @Anon

    The French revolution, was the sole creation of the Khazarian Jews, under Adam Weishaupt’s Illuminati. Every monarchy and leader assassination have solely been their work in the last 300+ years. They move into the host country, destroy their rulers and put in their own. This, along with control of banking, is how they’ve brought every western nation under their control. Once they have control of banking, aristocracy and politics, like a Brown Recluse spider injecting a necrotic venom, the Jews set about gaining control of all forms of education and influence, substituting it with indoctrination and brainwashing until it’s destroyed everything cultural and unique, bringing about a hive system state, with mindless drones to be their servile populous.

    • Replies: @Anon
  98. Sean says:
    @Epigon

    https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2018/06/12/ancient-sparta-the-first-self-conscious-ethnostate-part-1-educating-citizen-soldiers/:

    Spartiates’ training extended into adulthood, for no one was permitted to live as he pleased. Instead, just as in a camp, so in the city, they followed a prescribed lifestyle and devoted themselves to communal concerns. They viewed themselves absolutely as part of their country, rather than as individuals, and so unless assigned a particular job they would always be observing the boys and giving them useful piece of instruction, or learning themselves from their elders.

    With reference to the importance of religion in Sparta Xenophon and Plutarch believed that the joint and pious fulfillment of ritual inspires confidence in men before battle

    Marriage was discouraged before the age of 30 years. With only three decades between their greatest victory in the Peloponnesian War and their first defeat, the hour of Sparta’s complete ascendancy being the eve of its entire overthrow would argue against a drastically declining military. Wikipedia says of the Peloponnesian War that it shattered religious and cultural taboos.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Ferguson
    Smith emphasized capital accumulation as the driver of growth, but Ferguson suggested innovation and technical advance were more important, and he is therefore in some ways more in line with modern thinking. According to Smith, commerce tends to make men ‘dastardly’. This foreshadows a theme Ferguson, borrowing freely from Smith, took up to criticize capitalism. Ferguson’s critique of commercial society went far beyond that of Smith, and influenced Hegel and Marx

    The Edinburgh of the aforementioned thinkers time could stand comparison with Galton’s Attica for a concentration of genius. Anyway, the important thing is Fergusson was there when a very rapid transition from traditional Highland to commercial society took place. He saw first hand how the educated population of Edinburgh would not fight against the Jacobite clan forces drawing on on military landholding allegiance to the exiled Stuarts. After the rebellion was put down those same clan chiefs were given legal title to their land and proceeded to dismiss their tacksmen (relatives of the chief who acted as enforcers and carried weapons) and had the estates run on an extremely commercial-minded basis from luxurious apartments in Edinburgh and London. But once they had ceased to provide those on clan land with guaranteed income (food) that there was no way their tenants would come out to fight for them. Victory in the Peloponnesian War led to great disparities in wealth, and I think the Spartan system weakened as a result. There is also the point that Sparta’s victories were increasingly diplomatic due to their reputation for invincibility, but they were shown up as tactically backward in the battle of Leuctra.

    Athens and Sparta evolved their respective systems all the better to survive in external conflict. For a nation-state, the foreign policy and potential to win a war is always the primary consideration. It follows that giving priority to the long term domestic stability of the system is a mistake.

  99. AaronB says:
    @Guillaume Durocher

    Jews were the only ones who dared to set up a rival ideal, and didn’t just collapse in admiration of superior pagan physical culture, the cultural superpowers of the time with all the latest fads and fashions and mod cons.

    This is indeed fanaticism.

    • Replies: @Richard B
    , @Harbinger
  100. ia says:
    @Ron Unz

    Well, Jews aren’t microscopic. They are noticeable.

    Doing a little online research I found that Harvard began secularizing its curriculum in the 19th century. At some point someone must have decided to let in non-Christians. They could have kept it mostly Christian, even Protestant probably, by simply maintaining Chapel every day, and requiring courses in Christian theology. But, they saw the lay of the land and began relaxing and eventually eliminating religion altogether. How can you blame Jews for that?

    Not only that, they let in women when they already had Radcliffe.

    So, we can clearly see in this one instance how an institution founded before the Enlightenment altered its original intellectual, spiritual and social cohesion in response to cultural upheaval; and that this upheaval was initiated by gentiles themselves.

    Europeans and European Americans did invent and exploit “human rights” to stage a coup d’etat. They did lose interest in their own traditions and foundation myths. One could make a case they are now “random particles,” or at least their elites are. Other groups, including the Jews, who have a stronger sense of identity are simply exploiting the self-made empty hole in Western European culture you could drive a truck through.

    This is my explanation for the extraordinary weakness and oikophobia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oikophobia) we see in western European societies. Maybe I’m wrong but I haven’t come across a better one.

    I’d like to thank you for a great website btw.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @anon
  101. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:
    @Harbinger

    Well , Harbinger , you may have a point , and with all my respects for Durocher .

    But personally I do not think the Khazarians have provoked the horrible heat wave that is affecting the USA and Europe ( do you think they have ? )

    And although masonic forces were involved in the French revolution , like their own ” Illustrated ” french and the english pirates , this does not make the french people innocent victims .

    The french hordes destroyed in their own country churches , art , culture , traditions , masacred their own people like in La Vandèe . The greedy french hordes invaded all Europe from Moscow to Lisbon stealing everything , the greedy french hordes cheerfully killed millions of european civilians from Russia to Spain , lived off the invaded countries , stealed everything of value . Napoleon gave most of the european countries to rule to all of his corrupt and large family .

    Harbinger , do you think that the french people resisted the savagery of the revolutionary elites , or that they cooperated cheerfully in the killing , stealing and invading ? , of course in the name of Libertè , Egalitè and Fraternitè ?

    French imperialism and colonialism contributed to the two World Wars , France was in a colonial war in Vietnam till they were expelled in the 50`s ( and left the war to the USA ) , they were expelled from the colonial war on Algeria in the 60`s , in which hundreds of thousand of algerians were masacred .

    So Harbinger , do you think the poor french have some responsability for their crimes , or that they are such a good and inocent people that it is all the fault of the ” khazarians ” ?

  102. AaronB says:
    @ia

    Wow. I’ve been shouting this from the rooftops this whole time, but you explain this clearly, simply, and calmly in a way that is beyond my capabilities.

  103. eah says:
    @mp

    The idea that ‘culture’ is a ‘biological’ manifestation is wrongheaded from the get-go.

    I don’t think you’re correct about that — it is clear that genes and gene expression, fundamentally biological phenomena, initially drove creation of what we call culture — eventually a kind of stable feedback look developed between genes and gene expression in individuals and culture as a kind of collective, group manifestation of this.

    But I agree with this:

    That said, the Right should learn from antiquity, inasmuch as previous declines can be used to help navigate a path forward, among and through the ruins.

    • Replies: @MEFOBILLS
  104. Richard B says:
    @AaronB

    No. The “rival ideal” was just bullheaded and inflexible envy and resentment.

    The exact same “ideal” that fuels their behavior today. Some ideal. How “progressive.”

  105. anon[152] • Disclaimer says:
    @ia

    Oikophobia is official Christian doctrine, and the Jewish Rabbi offers a “hundredfold” bribe for it; read Matthew 19:29. Anybody resisting oikophobia is deemed a hater; read 1 John 2:15.

  106. Harbinger says:
    @AaronB

    Judaism is a pagan culture and not a monotheistic religion as we’re conveniently lied to about. The festival of Yom Kippur finishes with the sacrificing of a lamb to Samael, a prince of hell and fallen angel. The star of David is in fact the star of Remphan, a Sumerian deity. There’s Molloch worship along with Lucifer within their Cabala and Talmudic teachings.
    Christianity is the religion of the Israelite Hebrews, not, nor has it ever been Judaism.

    • Replies: @anon
  107. @AaronB

    Finally, it is a message of despair for whites – if their travails are not the result of a self inflicted mistake in their cultural evolution, then they have shown themselves to be unalterably vulnerable in the competition for life, and a race doomed to defeat.

    That does not follow. All the Judeocentric theories of Western decline necessarily posit is that high-trust Western societies are somewhat unusually vulnerable to ethnic infiltration and social parasitism by other populations. Nothing implies that this fault cannot be remedied by cultural or political means. On the contrary, we have many historical examples of powerful, and sometimes violent, cultural and political reactions by Western societies to just that sort of problem. Some of them in fairly recent history.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  108. S says:

    Pharos correctly observes that “[t]he civilizations of ancient Greece and Rome have always been attractive to European nationalist and racist movements.” The publication wishes to “expose the errors, omissions, and distortions” of said groups and “articulate a politically progressive approach to the study of Greco-Roman antiquities

    The self described so called ‘progressives’/’liberals’ of the United States, with their accompanying anti-race campaign (aka ‘anti-racism’), should squarely and directly to their collective face be called out for their ideology’s deeply rooted ties with historic chattel slavery and it’s trade, and their cynical 19th century monetization of it via the introduction of the so called ‘cheap labor’/mass immigration system, all under the guise of what has been historically referred to by the misnomer of ‘abolitionism’.

    This should be done if only due to their insufferable arrogance and pomposity.

    Due to it’s geo-political position the progressivism/liberalism of the United States has had not just a massive influence on the other Anglosphere countries, but on the West, and the world as a whole.

    The direct political and spiritual forebears of the progressives and liberals of the United States were that powerful element of the Anglo-Saxon and Jewish populations (and their hangers on) which were the slave dealers of British colonial North America. This trade was largely based in New England, with Massachusetts being the very epicenter of the dastardly business.

    When a particular commodity is seen as evil, such as certain highly addictive drugs or chattel slaves, while it’s certainly in no way a positive thing to be a consumer of these products, and thus an enabler, it’s generally seen as far worse to be the dealer of the same.

    It was these historic northeastern slave dealers and hangers on who won the US Civil War, wrote the history, and whose progressive/liberal political and spiritual descendants remain in power to this day.

    When that element of the progressive’s Anglo-Saxon and Jewish forebears, and their hangers on, ran the chattel slave trade in British North America, racial displacement (and ultimate genocide via ‘mixing’) was taking place then too, but at a much slower pace.

    It had taken some two hundred plus years for the Anglo-Saxon citizens of South Carolina (circa 1860) to become a minority of the state’s population vis-a-vis the African slaves. The other Southern states were then slowly following the same pattern.

    Race was then readily acknowledged to exist by all.

    [MORE]

    When the former (and not so former) chattel slave dealers of the northeast introduced their much more profitable wage slavery via so called ‘cheap labor’ (and the required ‘immigrants’ and associated expanded ‘immigration’) in the latter 18th and very early 19th century, as the US was still largely agricultural, the negative effects weren’t felt as much initially.

    It was when the US started to become industrialised in the northeast, post War of 1812 and later, that this population displacement really began to take place in earnest. The Anglo-Saxon farmer’s daughters, the ‘Yankee girls’, who had largely worked the textile mills of Massachusetts and New England initially, were displaced in the 1830’s and 40’s, by French Canadian and Irish ‘immigrants’ imported in as ‘cheap labor’ to take their place.

    And it wasn’t just the women, plenty of Anglo-Saxon men were being displaced as well, particularly so with the importation by diktat of a million or so Irish wage slaves (so called ‘cheap labor’) under the cover of the Irish Famine of 1845-50.

    A person might ask, how could these Anglo-Saxon elites do this to their own people? Very easily, as that powerful element which had been involved in the chattel slave trade for hundreds of years, and thus displacing their own in the South, ie South Carolina, were used to doing so. People are creatures of habit, so it’s not surprising these A-S elites would do the same to their own Anglo-Saxon people closer to home in New England.

    It’s not that they ‘care’ about the ‘immigrants’, mind you, but rather they see them (and I submit their descendants as well) as their slaves.

    That powerful element of the Jewish population involved historically with the chattel slave trade would likely tend to have even less qualms about A-S displacement due to wage slavery (ie ‘cheap labor’).

    However, while the wage slavery (‘cheap labor’) system with its ‘mass immigration’ is a far more profitable and efficient way of systematically stealing labor, due to the huge numbers exploited, it is also far more destructive than the already ghastly chattel slave system it replaced.

    Displacement and ultimate genocide via mixing away of races and ethnicities takes mere decades with wage slavery (‘cheap labor’) while with chattel slavery this process can take hundreds of years.

    In that light it shouldn’t be surprising that once wage slavery’s ‘cheap labor’/mass immigration system really got going in the latter 1840’s with the importation by diktat of a million Irish into the US that it’s promoters started running into serious problems involving race.

    In 1847, members of the British aristocracy in Ireland were being shot for their promotion and sponsorship of the mass exodus of the Irish from Ireland to the United States. The Irish did not call the promotion of this exodus ‘a helping hand’, or refer to what was being pushed as ‘mass immigration’, but instead quite accurately called it ‘extermination’. [See 1847 Spectator of London editorial linked below entitled ‘Extermination and Vengeance’]

    The London Times entirely concurred with this Irish assessment, and in a very multi-cultural 1851 editorial from the same Famine era declared, quite approvingly, that the enmasse predation of the Irish people as wage slaves (ie so called ‘cheap labor’) exported to the United States would directly result in the Irish being ‘known no more’ as a people.

    In the United States, this rapid influx of largely Roman Catholic Irish ‘cheap labor’/’immigrants’ into the still predominantly Anglo-Saxon and Protestant United States resulted not surprisingly in the rise of the American Party (sometimes disparingly referred to as ‘nativist’) during the 1850’s.

    During this same time period, the Northeastern promoters of the wage slavery system (ie cheap labor/mass immigration) ran into another problem not involving race per se, but involving a recalcitrant South and their entrenched chattel slave system.

    The former New England slave dealers were now industrialists, and it was the very inefficient and costly chattel slaves of the South which picked the cotton which in turn fed the New England textile mills, thus greatly adding to the cost of the finished cloth product and making them less profitable and competitive to sell on the global market.

    This conflict between chattel and wage slavery came out in the open during the mid to latter 1850’s in ‘Bleeding Kansas’, which is seen as a microcosm of the coming US Civil War. Northeastern industrialists pushing wage slavery (ie ‘cheap labor’) and plantation owners promoting chattel slavery, would each finance private guerilla armies to fight for control of the state. [See links below regarding Lawrence ‘Immigrant City’, Massachusetts, and it’s sister city, the infamous Lawrence, Kansas, the latter as a base for ‘abolitionists’, each city’s construction financed by the same Mass based Lawrence family of textile factory magnates.]

    While Southern chattel slave owners might have been open to making the transition to wage slavery (ie ‘cheap labor’), without guarantees of compensation for their slave ‘property’ (which were not forthcoming), there was no chance of this, and thus the South’s secession, and the Civil War of 1861-65 which followed.

    After a war costing the lives of at a minimum 600,000 people, the former northeastern slave dealers had succeeded in forcing their wage slavery system on the US South.

    Due in part to the destruction in the South, it would take some time however for wage slavery and it’s cheap labor/mass immigration system to take root there, though as early as 1869 the Dutch ‘labor contractor Cornelius Koopmanschap and his half (possibly wholly) Jewish business partner, Maurice Bosman, had declared the intention to import one hundred thousand Chinese wage slaves (ie ‘cheap labor’) into the US to work the Southern plantations. The plantation owners of the US South were said to be quite enthusiastic about these plans. [See 1869 NY Times article linked below regarding Chinese ‘coolies’]

    The war had indeed been about slavery on both ‘sides’, the competing far more profitable wage slavery (so called ‘cheap labor’) of the North versus the entrenched far less profitable chattel slavery of the South, a war which was hardly in any way, shape, or form, in most people’s interest. [The guns were turned on the wrong people in that damnable war.]

    Regarding China, some amongst the Anglosphere’s historic Anglo-Saxon and Jewish slave dealing sort had been involved in flooding China with drugs (ie opium), and when China had the temerity to resist this trade, had crushed them to enforce drug use there in what are termed the ‘Opium Wars’ (first war was circa 1840). This, and what the Chinese refer to as the ‘Unequal Treaties’, resulted in China’s markets being ‘opened up’. It also resulted in China’s people being opened up as well for their enmasse exploitation as wage slaves (ie so called ‘cheap labor’).

    From the mid to latter 19th century a serious attempt was made to import literally tens of millions of Chinese into the US and Australia as so called ‘cheap labor’. Elements of the US corporate media were declaring it a done deal that the United States would soon be primarily Asiatic in character as a direct result of this and were all for it.

    However, people’s healthy and natural instinct against being genocided by being ‘mixed’ away arose, and in both the United States and Australia this ‘great replacement’ attempt via the enmasse predation of the Chinese by the early so called ‘progressives’ had been stopped cold by 1900.

    During the midst of this struggle in the Spring of 1874, when the situation regarding the mass importation of the Chinese into the US and Australia was still undecided, the Pall Mall Gazette of London wrote an editorial entitled ‘Chinamen Out of China’ extolling to it’s readers the virtues of the Chinese as ‘cheap labor’ and hungrily eyeing the then 400 million Chinese in a prostate China as a vast ‘storehouse of labour [which] seems practically inexhaustible’.

    The editorial also specifically identifies the primary impediment that this scheme of shameless enmasse predation and exploitation was running into, which was nothing less than ‘race’.

    ‘A dread of what might happen if capitalists could command and control these vast hordes of workmen as against men of their own race has made the labouring class, at any rate, blind to their good qualities.’

    And even the most ignorant of those who among they come have a hazy notion that there are 400,000,000 or more similar strange looking people tightly packed at home and ready enough to seek their fortune elsewhere. The storehouse of labour seems practically inexhaustible. A dread of what might happen if capitalists could command and control these vast hordes of workmen as against men of their own race has made the labouring class, at any rate, blind to their good qualities. The Americans, for instance, were fain to admit that the Chinese came out grandly in the construction of the Pacific Railway. But this has no wise abated the sullen hostility with which they are regarded in California, and it needs but little to stir up this enimity to take a much more active shape than that of mere petitions to Congress.

    Due to the US Chinese Exclusion Act of 1881, and Australia’s ‘White Only’ policy circa 1900, the dreams of the primordial progressives/liberals would be dashed in regards to the Chinese and their explotation.

    They had not willfully given up the lucrative chattel slave trade for the expected far greater riches of wage slavery (ie ‘cheap labor’/mass immigration) only to have the entire scheme blow up in their faces, as indeed seemed to be happening in the United States and Australia in the latter 19th century.

    They were not going to be denied their profits.

    It would be over a hundred years yet before they would develop the perfect ideological vehicle to make the world safe for ‘cheap labor’, or so they would think. They would give this ideological vehicle, along with it’s anti-race campaign, the name ‘multi-culturalism’.

    The new boss, same as the old boss.

    And just how much more financially profitable/efficient was the Massachusett’s wage slavery (cheap labor) system as opposed to South Carolina’s chattel slavery? This is effectively known, as the Anglo-Saxon former US treasurer, and then current financial representative of the Lincoln administration in London, Robert Walker, made these calculations during the critical war year of 1863, which were subsequently republished in 1864.

    The answer was four times.

    ‘The educated free labor of Massachusetts, we have seen, doubles the products of toil, per capita, as compared with Maryland, and quadruples them (as the Census shows) compared with South Carolina….’ Former US Treasurer and slave speculator Robert Walker writing in London in December 1863. The Continental Monthly – March 1864

    And let’s not forget the simple divide and conquer, divide and rule, power aspects that wage slavery with it’s so called ‘cheap labor’ affords historically slavery (both chattel and wage) corrupted elites (native and alien) towards the people whose interest they are supposed to be representating.

    They dote upon their slaves.

    From pg 4 of a 2003 academic paper (linked below) written by two Israeli professors:

    ‘..the immigrants usually serve three main functions: cheap labor to replace native groups; settlement on the ‘frontier’ (periphery); and control over the natives and their land (Stasiulis and Yuval-Davis. These dynamics generally result in the maintenance of hegemony..’

    As for the many everyday ‘liberal’ or ‘progressive’ types, who today can often be found from the Atlantic northeast to the Pacific northwest, who may not be personally profiting from the cheap labor/mass immigration system, as it is indeed not really in their interest, their political and spiritual forebears can be found in the Puritan New England village as well.

    These were the ones who, having internalized the chattel slave trade and it’s system there, would vociferously defend it against any threats from amongst their own people (ie ‘Whose going to take care of the slaves!?’..’How will we get by without them!?’), all with the nodding quiet and knowing approval of the slave dealing/owning Puritan village patriarchs.

    http://slavenorth.com

    http://archive.spectator.co.uk/article/20th-november-1847/12/extermination-and-vengeance

    https://matteroffact.tv/lawrence-mass-immigrant-city/

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence,_Kansas

    https://www.nytimes.com/1869/07/21/archives/koopmanschap-who-he-is-what-he-has-done-and-what-he-proposes-to-do.html

    Vol 121, 1874, Littel’s Living Age (pg 124)

    https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/011827682

    https://www.academia.edu/2116622/Between_urban_and_national_45_Political_mobilization_among_46_Mizrahim_in_Israel_s_development_4847_towns_

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  109. MEFOBILLS says:
    @eah

    it is clear that genes and gene expression, fundamentally biological phenomena, initially drove creation of what we call culture —

    The Aryan people referred to by Durocher, rode horses, ate meat, and had language for making deals/settling trade. This combination of attributes would be hard to beat.

    They were bigger, stronger, and likely more intelligent than smaller hominid races around them. This natural aristocracy then went on to conquer much of the known world, and to create high civilization, including Greek and Roman.

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    , @Seraphim
  110. anon[152] • Disclaimer says:
    @Harbinger

    Harbinger: Judaism…sacrificing of a lamb
    1 Corinthians 5:7: “Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed.”

    Thank you for confirming that Christianity is indeed warmed over Judaism.

  111. AaronB says:
    @John Regan

    The question is why are your minds so easily hijacked and why are you easily controlled.

    Is it genetic or is it cultural. If its cultural it can be fixed.

    Can it be you are so easily controlled because your minds are empty of any actual content – by substituting reason for tradition and faith, you have created blank minds that people whose minds actually have contents supplied by tradition can easily take over.

    More, that people with empty minds will naturally gravitate towards people whose minds have contents. That relativists will naturally be controlled by people with a sense of certainty.

    Go and ponder.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @MEFOBILLS
  112. AaronB says:
    @AaronB

    The narrative is not simply that you are trusting. One may enter a business deal with high levels of trust and then lose that trust when you discover you are cheated. You do not continue doing business again and again.

    The narrative is that you are easily persuaded to hate your self and to act against yourself.

    And that can only mean you already have low self confidence.

    Accepting and embracing negative portrayals of oneself has nothing to do with trust.

    I am a very trusting person. If someone I trust highly started telling me I am terrible and deserve to be mistreated and put down, I would have the inner strength to stop trusting that person. If I lacked that inner strength, then I already have self esteem problems.

    If you know anything about European history, you know by the late 19th century European writers had lost confidence in their civilization, and WW1 killed it.

    The question is why did Europeans come to their relationship with Jews from a place of already lowered self confidence.

    And the answers to this are found in the writings of the great European writers and thinkers starting shortly after the Enlightenment. They knew what the problem was.

    Go forth and read.

    • Replies: @John Regan
  113. MEFOBILLS says:
    @AaronB

    The question is why are your minds so easily hijacked and why are you easily controlled.

    Is it genetic or is it cultural. If its cultural it can be fixed.

    Its mostly genetic.

    Genetics is about 80% of what a person is, the environment is a minimal variable.

    Trust and altruism probably came about due to the harsh conditions of fourth ice age, and the long proximity of Aryans/Cro-Magnons to horses and dogs.

    Harsh conditions forced group cohesion to survive, and this trust/altruism was reciprocated. By the way, this is a necessary precondition for a high trust civilization, where you don’t need a police state.

    The other races had a different evolutionary pathway, and hence their genetics don’t necessary code for pathological altruism. They are not taken in as easily by con-artists. For example, our (((friends))) will have trouble infiltrating China.

    So, yes – the white race especially, is a perfect petri dish, or host for parasitical in-groups.

    It’s genetic. But, fortunately with proper education, pathological altruism can be overcome.

    It also means that white cro-magnon peoples should segregate themselves from those people groups that take advantage of white altruism. Segregation is necessary.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  114. S says:

    ..civilizations of ancient Greece and Rome have always been attractive to European nationalist and racist movements.”

    In the world of hunting there are the unscrupulous and lawless sort, a rather low type indeed, which under the cover of darkness will illegally use a spotlight to hunt and shoot down the mesmerized deer, who doesn’t realize the danger it’s in until it’s too late.

    The anti-race types, like those unscrupulous and lawless hunters, at the behest of their corporate masters have fashioned their own ‘spotlight’ in regards to Euros with their invented and weaponized terms of ‘racist’ and ‘racism’, with which they wish to first mesmerize, and then destroy European people’s.

    Europeans have got to stop being that proverbial ‘deer in the spotlight’ when it comes to the terms ‘racist’ and ‘racism’, and rather than be mesmerized by it, instead sense the danger of taking those terms seriously, and figuratively bound off out of harms way by either disregarding or simply rejecting them outright.

    Yes, the anti-race obsessed sorts will be quite upset about a person not playing by their rigged rules, just as those low type hunters described would be if a deer were to bolt and succesfully escape when first seeing their illegal spotlight.

    Oh, well. 🙂

  115. AaronB says:
    @MEFOBILLS

    If its genetics you’re screwed.

    According to you black violence is genetic. Have cultural interventions helped?

    Yet somehow they will help in your case.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @MEFOBILLS
  116. Epigon says:
    @MEFOBILLS

    Italics/Romans, Hellenes and Macedonians were the shortest and smallest people in Europe of that time.
    Skeletal remains and their writings confirm it – all Barbarians (Balkan tribes, Gauls, Boii, Germanics) were of stronger and taller build.

    Roman army required a height of at least 165 cm from recruits – which means there were many who were too short.

    It is no surprise that once Romans assimilated Illyrians, Thracians, Triballians the Balkan provinces became most important military provinces and provided best legions – in addition to putting many of their Emperors (born there) on throne.

    There is a huge amount of bullshit being
    peddled around – no, the Meds who gave us Graeco-Roman foundation of Europe were not Nordids/Hitlerite Aryans/superhumans.

    • Agree: Anonymoose
  117. Giuseppe says:
    @Guillaume Durocher

    OK, I managed to locate a time machine at extreme difficulty, and I obtained the grudging permission of the owner to use it to go back to remonstrate with the Greeks about infanticide, but only on one condition. I must first get an expert opinion regarding the question, did the Greeks view their philosophy as universal to all mankind or only to the Greeks themselves? Thank you. Oh, one more thing, what year do you recommend?

  118. Seraphim says:
    @MEFOBILLS

    The idea that the Greek-Roman civilization (or any ‘high civilization’ for that matter) was the creation of the Indo-‘Germanic’ blue-eyed ‘blond beasts’ head-hunters (who were Uralo-Altaics anyway) roaming the steppes beyond the boundaries of the high civilizations (which develop along the ‘spine’ of the Himalayan-Caucasian-Carpathian-Alpine-Pyrenean mountainous chain), was comprehensively proven wrong. It survives only as an ideological ‘superstition’ reflecting the secret ‘fear-of-inferiority’ of the ‘Germano-Anglo-Saxon’ peoples they want to compensate with ‘Human Evolutionary Biology’ (Social Darwinism).

    It is surprising how little they make about the ‘Gallic-Celtic’ civilization which is more at the base of an ‘European’ civilization than the Germanic.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @MEFOBILLS
    , @MEFOBILLS
    , @Anon
  119. anon[137] • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    > According to you black violence is genetic.

    According to studies. The science is settled.

    “Studies find that darker pigmented people average higher levels of aggression and sexual activity (and also lower IQ).”

    http://sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886912000840

  120. anon[137] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    Hatin’ whitey! Muh niggah!

    Seraphim says:
    October 23, 2018 at 7:10 pm GMT

    The irony is that the ‘white’ people ar actually blacks discolored. It is a genetical defect which affects their brain too, whence their limited capacity of comprehension of the world surrounding them.
    http://www.unz.com/tsaker/the-empire-splits-the-orthodox-world-possible-consequences/#comment-2586808

  121. MEFOBILLS says:
    @Seraphim

    They are definitely Cro-Magnon.

    Tracing language puts them in the area around Iran.

    https://www.ancient-origins.net/history-famous-people/true-aryans-who-were-they-really-and-how-were-their-origins-corrupted-009075

    The germans were running around in the forests hunter gathering around this time.

    I always assume that people have a certain base level of knowledge.

    Most likely the Cro’s moved along riverine and ocean coastlines fishing and hunting, as they moved west to east. This is in alignment with your Celtic theory.

  122. MEFOBILLS says:
    @Seraphim

    From the article:

    I find a wondrous harmony between the theory of Darwinism and the practice of Hellenism. One observes the Law of Life, the other was born of it, stemming from the Indo-European/Aryan/Yamnaya warrior people which conquered half of Eurasia and established the ancient civilizations of Greece, Rome, Persia, and India.

    https://www.ancient-origins.net/yamnaya

    Modern white people are a blend of at least three other races.

    Where in any statement was I pushing the distorted post WW2 Aryan term, I was referring to Aryans in the old way, before the word was corrupted.

    The Greek method would carefully define terms, which is hard to do in a forum of this type, you have to assume a base level of understanding.

    • Replies: @foobc1
  123. MEFOBILLS says:
    @AaronB

    According to you black violence is genetic. Have cultural interventions helped?

    Why is your question even controversial?

    Of course black violence is genetic. Evolution predicts variation among the species, or “races.”

    I just told you that white people are somewhat defective, in that they have pathological altruism.

    What, so white people are supposed to be perfect?

    With regards to cultural intervention, blacks behave when their is omnipresent fear, such as the old south.

    The best solution is to segregate, as history has shown us that widely varying races do not get along.

    I just look at the data, and don’t let my head get filled up with nonsense, like “everybody is the same.”

  124. Richard B says:

    “There has been a concerted effort by egalitarians to, however implausibly, ‘reclaim’ a sanitized version of the classics compatible with the various left-wing manias of the current year.”

    Literature whether for the individual or in terms of teaching, learning and scholarship is much more interesting and far more inspiring when the individual or the literatus are engaged in the historical study of literature and not using canonical literature for ideological purposes.

    The ideological Right and Left are intellectually bankrupt.

    One reason is that both operate out of the usual assumption that science and literary study have nothing to do with each other. But of course they do.

    Both science and literary study are faced with the same problem: How should one interpret something, whether it’s a poem, plant, crystal or a play?

    They’re both willing to recognize that we live in an interpreted world and that the interpretation of anything has no theoretical limits, only pragmatic limits.

    They’re both more interested in satisfying the drive toward reality, as opposed to the drive toward orientation. Of course we need both theory and data. But a theory is always stronger when it’s open-ended from both sides. Something that never happens with ideologues.

    They’re interested in Situational Thinking. Ideologues in Non-Situational Thinking.

    The decision among European thinkers not to interpret something from an a priori view, but rather from what would be called “situational thinking” goes back to the 15th, 16th centuries. And it happened in both science and literature.

    And yet, what do the overwhelming majority of our thinkers and writers offer today?

    An Either/Or choice between two intellectually bankrupt 18th century Enlightenment ideologies.

    The thinking of much of the Right and Left is Non-Situational Thinking.

    It’s thinking that’s under the control of an ideology that resists or does not permit or is incapable of correction by feedback.

    It’s the interpretational mode of who are committed to a final theory of literature, or a final theological, political, psychological or philosophical theory.

    They’re verbal cancers that are neither operable or treatable.

    Unfortunately, they can last for centuries, even millenia.

    • Replies: @anon
  125. Seraphim says:
    @S

    Perhaps we should look at the California Gold Rush as a ‘scheme’ to populate the newly conquered territory from Mexico. Gold was found in 1842, but it was announced only in 1848 after the conclusion of the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo.

    • Replies: @S
  126. foobc1 says:
    @MEFOBILLS

    Aryan is not corrupted, it is instrumental to the Aryan religion (Hinduism).

    It’s like saying the word Christian is corrupted. Of course it isn’t.

    The Holy Hindu symbols are om, swastika and laltika (that is the red dot on forehead).

    Aryans did not found Greece, Rome or Persia. Their cousins did. The word Aryan and the swastika only appears in the Hindu Eddas. No other culture, book, religion or civilization has used those words or symbols.

    As for Iran, Zoroaster was opposite of Aryan. Not did did Zoraster never speak Sanskrit, never used Aryan Edda and never use Swasktika, the Zoroaster gods were the inverse of Aryans – Aryan Rakshas (devils) were Zoroaster divinity.

    Nither Eire nor Iran comes from the word ‘Aryan’ – which again only appears in one place. Just one place – the Hindu Edda. Not even the Norse Edda (which is very close to the Hindu Edda – even the name of the book is the same, not even that close copy has the word Aryan anywhere in it).

  127. AaronB says:
    @MEFOBILLS

    I actually agree in that I think most Jews should move to Israel. Its not good for us to be a minority – with the paranoia and fear – or for you, with how we relate to you.

    The only issue I see is, that I think your problems have nothing to do with Jews, and that even after Jews are gone you will accuse us of controlling from Israel, since communication systems are global these days.

    Can you promise that won’t happen? Can we agree that once Jews are mostly gone if you continue being suicidal liberals its not our fault?

    Believe it or not, I actually hope white civilization gets back on its feet again. But I think you will have to find religion again.

    • Replies: @MEFOBILLS
  128. Anon[104] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    If something it have been proved more right with the new genetic data where the people with more yamnaya ancestry live in north/ north east europe
    http://Www.ibb.co/KVy434Y.com

    • Replies: @Anon
  129. Anon[104] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Not only that but all the groups that spread around the world are derived from corded ware culture that are genetically identical to north / north east europeans
    All the conquest and building in india , iran, europe ,western china the steppe itself( killing the original yamnaya) …. are derived from this group only hittites are not descendants from them .

    You dont know nothing at all seraphim

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  130. anon[137] • Disclaimer says:
    @Richard B

    > Non-Situational Thinking.

    Are you trying to Jew us, Schlomo?

    Heschel approaches philosophy of religion as “situational thinking” and “depth theology” which endeavor to “rediscover the questions to which religion is an answer” (A.J. Heschel, God in Search of Man [1955], 3).

    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/existentialism

  131. Richard B says:

    I never waste my time on stupid people. They’ll only drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. Which, in your case, sounds extensive.

  132. MEFOBILLS says:
    @AaronB

    The only issue I see is, that I think your problems have nothing to do with Jews, and that even after Jews are gone you will accuse us of controlling from Israel, since communication systems are global these days.

    Jews are definitely a problem; they act as a hostile in-group. They attach themselves to the organs of power, take usury, take rents, and in general maneuver for their own self aggrandizement.

    Jews displace and kill the host, especially with usury.

    Judaism is a new religion that came into being AFTER the Temple fell; it morphed and became Talmudism whose antecedents are Cabala and the mystery religions.

    If I were you, I would either dump judaism into the crapper where it belongs, as it is a mind virus, or emigrate to Israel. Belonging to a parasitic in-group is no way to live.

    White people do have a problem in that they have pathological altruism, and are easily duped. This high trust behavior is probably evolutionary.

    Jewish people may also be considered as an evolutionary construct, as they in-bred and practiced ethno-nepotism.

    • Agree: Richard B
    • Replies: @AaronB
  133. Fomenko would say that antiquity was all made up.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  134. Seraphim says:
    @foobc1

    Swastika appears on Neolithic pottery in Europe, in the so-called ‘Vinča script’ (and even before in the epigravettian site of Mezine, Ukraine, carved on a mammoth tusk), on the painted pottery of Tripolye/Cucuteni, as well as in Sumer and China, Greek and Etruscan pottery, with no relation to India.

    • Replies: @Anon
  135. MEFOBILLS says:
    @foobc1

    Aryan is not corrupted,

    Yes it is. Language changes meaning. I was remiss in not defining my terms better. I was using Aryan in the same way as was Durocher, and coincidentally as is the meaning with today’s convergence of linguists and anthropologists.

    Maybe we should say Indo-European so our Indian friends don’t get so bent out of shape.

    By the way, if Indian’s would stay in their own country rather than emigrating to America, that would be great – thank you. We did just fine before, multiculturalism is not a strength.

    Good fences make good neighbors.

  136. AaronB says:
    @MEFOBILLS

    So you will not leave us alone, even after we leave you alone? You will continue to attack us, even after we no longer live among you?

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @MEFOBILLS
  137. Seraphim says:
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    And a thousand idiots would repeat it after him.

  138. Seraphim says:
    @Anon

    And you don’t know nothing no more.

  139. Anon[205] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    Obviously the swastica appear in all the places where indo europeans or their ancestors ancestral north eurasians expanded or had close contact with them like was the cucuteni culture bordering yamnaya .

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  140. Anon[104] • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    I think the problem with whites
    Is that the middle class is too smart too see things throw instinct and too stupid to realky THINK for thenselfs
    That let them with this subjective and relativist interpretation of the world that is only the half truth
    Lower class reach the correct deduction by instinct

    While upper class europeans were too confortable playing the jew game dividing and reigning while jews perfectly understood the power of unity giving the upper classes all the ideological tool to leech the lower class europeans as all of them were slowly being weakened .

  141. S says:
    @Seraphim

    I’ve sometimes wondered about the timing of the gold discovery in 1848 in California. Do you happen to have the source of the 1842 discovery date? Sounds intriguing.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  142. Seraphim says:
    @S

    The source is simply Wikipedia:
    @California Gold Rush
    “The first gold found in California was made on March 9, 1842. Francisco Lopez, a native California, was searching for stray horses. He stopped on the bank of a small creek in what later was known as Placerita Canyon, about 3 miles (4.8 km) east of the present-day Newhall, California, and about 35 miles (56 km) northwest of Los Angeles. While the horses grazed, Lopez dug up some wild onions and found a small gold nugget in the roots among the onion bulbs. He looked further and found more gold.[29]
    Lopez took the gold to authorities who confirmed its worth. Lopez and others began to search for other streambeds with gold deposits in the area. They found several in the northeastern section of the forest, within present-day Ventura County. In 1843 he found gold in San Feliciano Canyon near his first discovery. Mexican miners from Sonora worked the placer deposits until 1846, when the Californios began to agitate for independence from Mexico, and the Bear Flag Revolt caused many Mexicans to leave California”

    @Rancho San Francisco:
    “On March 9, 1842, Francisco Lopez, the uncle of Antonio’s second wife, Jacoba Feliz, took a rest under an oak tree in Placerita Canyon and had a dream that he was floating on a pool of gold. When he awoke, he pulled a few wild onions from the ground finding flakes of gold in the roots.[6] Contrary to some portraits of him as a farmer who stumbled upon his discovery by dumb luck, Lopez had studied mineralogy at the University of Mexico and had been actively searching for gold.[7] Evidence suggests that gold had previously been found in the area about thirty years prior, but the Lopez gold find was the first popularly documented incident in the area.[8] This sparked a gold rush on a much smaller scale than the 1849 California Gold Rush. About 2,000 people, mostly from the Mexican state of Sonora, came to Rancho San Francisco to mine the gold.[6]
    Knowledge of the gold find seems to have remained largely within Mexican territory. John Sutter and his “right-hand man” John Bidwell, both of whom sided with Gov. Manuel Micheltorena during the governor’s power struggle with former Gov. Alvarado, were imprisoned after the latter’s side won the bloodless Battle of Providencia in 1845.[9] After their release, Bidwell headed north through Placerita Canyon, saw the mining operations, and was determined to search for gold on his way to Sutter’s Fort.[6][a]
    During the Mexican–American War, Del Valle destroyed the mine to prevent the United States from gaining its control.[12] The tree where Lopez took his nap is now known as the “Oak of the Golden Dream” and is registered as California Historic Landmark #168.[1]

    Strangely enough, although gold was found in Australia from the very beginning of the colonization the significant discoveries were made in 1848 and the Gold Rush started in earnest in 1851.

    • Replies: @S
    , @anon
  143. @AaronB

    The narrative is that you are easily persuaded to hate your self and to act against yourself.

    No. That may be true of a small number of pathological cases (nowadays apparently known as “Social Justice Warriors”), but those are in no way representative of the larger population. The vast majority of European-derived people, including the so-called elites, are not and have never been self-hating. If you ask a white father or mother, even of the most politically correct middle class, whether they hate their own children, the answer will be both negative and honest. Probably, they will be upset with you for even asking.

    The peculiarity of white people (and Nordics/Germanics especially) is that they have unusually high levels of trust and empathy, as well as unusually low levels of ethnocentrism. This is likely a product of their evolutionary history, the same cold-climate, low-conflict selection pressures and adaptations which have also produced their unusually high intelligence and low time preferences. In previous times, when they inhabited genetically and culturally homogeneous societies, these traits were very positive ones, which by and large explain the historically unparalleled success of the European cultures in recent centuries. However, they also left a potential vulnerability open to psychopathic exploiters whose evolutionary history followed different paths.

    If you look at the controlled media and the narratives they promote, you’ll see that they are not calling openly for the destruction of white people and their culture (save in niche media catering specifically to the subcultures of leftist defectives or resentful non-whites). Instead, they always cloak their propaganda in terms of fairness, liberty, opportunity and other buzzwords that tug at the heartstrings of empathetic whites. While at the same time, they are carefully concealing what the end result of their policies will be, and doing their utmost to silence and destroy anyone who recognizes it independently and tries to bring attention to it. Because they know very well that if people were told the truth, they would be very angry. And that sort of anger, as history shows, is very bad news for the parasites.

    Or to put it another way: if your hypothesis were correct, White Genocide would not be decried as a conspiracy theory, but openly celebrated, by whites as well as non-whites.

    If you know anything about European history, you know by the late 19th century European writers had lost confidence in their civilization, and WW1 killed it.

    An absolutely false statement. Not only was fin-du-siècle pessimism only ever a subset of the culture of the times, it was also precisely the decades after World War I that saw perhaps the clearest and most powerful manifestations of self-conscious European ethnic and cultural expression and assertion. Thus handily disproving any nonsense about either European culture or European genetics being somehow incurably defective or innately suicidal. The strengthening of nationalism in this period was in part a direct reaction to such Spenglerian pessimism as there was in the pre-war years, and demonstrates that European culture could adapt itself quite well to regulate such momentary excesses.

    Probably not coincidentally, these national house cleaning movements were also the foremost exponents of forceful measures against ethnic infiltration and social parasitism.

    • Replies: @ia
    , @AaronB
    , @SWM C.
  144. MEFOBILLS says:
    @AaronB

    You will continue to attack us, even after we no longer live among you?

    AaronB, you have cause and effect reversed.

    You probably think that when white babies are born, they are genetically anti-semitic?

    Antisemitism is a LEARNED response. No healthy civilization or people group wants to be hosted and parasitized.

    If a person is not an antisemite, they are probably ignorant or lacking in moral character. Or, they are trusting dupes who have imbibed on hypnosis.

    Jews were kicked out of 186 countries for running their usury scam, and trying to take over. They created hostile conditions for the host, and were denying their hosts life.

    This pattern repeats throughout history and time. Herzyl wanted Jews to become normal, to have their own nation state, and to turn away from their sophisticated crimes. So far, the Zionist state has not turned out as Herzyl wanted.

    Why would whites attack Jews after they are separated (one can dream of such a paradise)? There is no historical case for this, it has always been a proximity leads to revulsion scenario.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  145. ia says:
    @John Regan

    The peculiarity of white people (and Nordics/Germanics especially) is that they have unusually high levels of trust and empathy, as well as unusually low levels of ethnocentrism. This is likely a product of their evolutionary history . . .

    Thus handily disproving any nonsense about either European culture or European genetics being somehow incurably defective or innately suicidal.

    Well, which one is it?

    Liberals in my experience are extremely self-serving and protective of their personal space and property. For instance, white women hate cat-calls while black women actually like them. White liberals are fiercely protective about keeping blacks out of their schools. They love micro-breweries, yoga classes, restaurants and bars with European names and menus, modern art – all these alienate and confuse even college-educated minorities who bitterly resent all this white privilege. Anything beyond their immediate neighborhood, personal space or school system however means very little to them.

    • Replies: @John Regan
  146. @ia

    Well, which one is it?

    It’s both. There is no contradiction between those statements.

    On a biological level, whites are somewhat unusually trusting and empathetic, which also shapes their cultural preferences. However, this doesn’t in any way equal a terminal defect, since other traits balance out the resultant weaknesses. Most importantly, whites are also intelligent and (relatively) good at recognizing patterns. Thus, in an environment where the news and entertainment media are not universally hostile to them, they are able to publicly discuss and recognize the adverse effects to themselves of too-empathetic culture and policy in a multi-ethnic environment. So their culture then develops compensating mechanisms, working to reinforce their comparatively weak (but not by any means nonexistent) ethnocentrism and mobilize effective efforts against destructive ethnic infiltrators and social parasites.

    The best studied recent example of this cultural self-regulation in action is National Socialist Germany in the 1930s, but there are many others as well. If you’re interested in a more comprehensive explanation of these processes, I warmly recommend the book Separation and Its Discontents by evolutionary psychologist Kevin MacDonald, available for free on this very site thanks to our generous host. For a briefer summation, post #57 in the present comments thread is also enlightening.

    Liberals in my experience are extremely self-serving and protective of their personal space and property. For instance, white women hate cat-calls while black women actually like them. White liberals are fiercely protective about keeping blacks out of their schools. They love micro-breweries, yoga classes, restaurants and bars with European names and menus, modern art – all these alienate and confuse even college-educated minorities who bitterly resent all this white privilege.

    Absolutely. These in-group preferences are, of course, in part culturally conditioned (the politically correct middle class also has much disdain for the politically incorrect working class, for example). Yet, part of them are ethnocentric preferences on a deeper level. The ethnocentrism of whites (and Germanics in particular) is relatively weakly developed (compared to other genetically distinct populations, such as Asians of most varieties), but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist at all. Even fervently politically correct whites will, as a rule, prefer to keep their much-cherished vibrancy and multiculturalism at a safe distance from their own personal regular environment. Ideally, there will be one or two very well-assimilated non-white (or mixed non-white) families to show how enlightened the neighborhood is, without altering its hegemonic white middle class atmosphere. One is better than none, but none is far better than many.

    Anything beyond their immediate neighborhood, personal space or school system however means very little to them.

    Yes, but with the important caveat that this is so only if it’s also out of their media bubbles. Most middle class persons live a large portion of their lives in imaginary realities created by the media (whether the news media or the entertainment media). For those victims (fraudulent or otherwise) that the media promote, the politically correct middle class will indeed often feel real empathy. Thus, we have their outrage (much of it by no means feigned, but quite real) against numerous trivial “racist” sleights while at the same time, they will (for the most part) ignore entirely the millions of very real victims of something like the opioid crisis (which receives very little media coverage and so doesn’t exist to them).

    So, the politically correct are not without empathy. But given how the media dominate their perceptions of the world, their empathy is rerouted in severely maladaptive directions. It really is a fiendishly clever system that has been built up over the last century and a half or so to manage this population.

    • Replies: @ia
  147. MEFOBILLS says:

    Liberals in my experience are extremely self-serving and protective of their personal space and property

    Why are you conflating white liberals with a properly run white civilization?

    White civilizations that are high trust, are also patriarchies, where loose women, and degenerates are put in their place. A proper patriarchal hierarchy has been destroyed from inside by purposeful design by hostile in-groups. Separation is the answer.

    The case can be made that white men DID allow Jews and other degenerates into their civilizations, and it becomes increasingly difficult to defend against a inside enemy.

    A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly against the city.

    But the traitor moves among those within the gates freely, his sly whispers rustling through all alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself.

    For the traitor appears no traitor; he speaks in the accents familiar to his victim, and he wears their face and their garments and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men.

    He rots the soul of a nation; he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city; he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared. The traitor is the plague. — Marcus Tullius Cicero, from a speech given to the Roman Senate, recorded in approximately 42 B.C. by Sallust.

  148. ia says:
    @John Regan

    But given how the media dominate their perceptions of the world, their empathy is rerouted in severely maladaptive directions.

    It’s curious that self-identifying liberals seem much better at manipulating images, gestures and sounds in time than self-identifying conservatives. In other words, liberals tend to be producers while conservatives tend to be consumers of culture. Do you know of anyone who has written about this?

  149. S says:
    @Seraphim

    Thanks. Apparently the earlier strike wasn’t quite as well known due to the smaller size of it. Interesting, too, the parallel with Australia.

    The dream Francisco Lopez had of ‘floating on a pool of gold’, and then waking up as he says, and actually finding gold, is the type of dream every person should have. 😉

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  150. JackOH says:
    @ia

    “White men don’t really need to do much in order to turn things around. Just stop believing in the human rights god.”

    ia, you may be more right than most folks, even here, imagine.

    To combat de jure segregation in parts of the Deep South, our national government took the astonishingly overreaching step of erecting a “civil rights” apparatus that essentially presumed all Whites were motivated by racial animus. That’s not true. It never was true. Yet, a lot of innocent Whites were sucked into believing racial animus was a problem, because the government presented a solution to it.

    That “civil rights” apparatus is, in my non-lawyer opinion, not competent. We just need the right people, with their hearts in the right place, and the right framework for thinking to rid us of it.

    (BTW-I’m a freedom of association dude, so I think it’s a good idea to oppose de jure segregation and miscegenation laws. Likewise, the “mandatory association” of “civil rights” laws is bad mojo.)

  151. AaronB says:
    @John Regan

    The truth is, I am fine with whatever narratives you create for yourselves, and its not for me to fix your problems.

    If you think European culture did not take a wrong turn, that’s fine by me.

    I no longer identify with the culture.

  152. AaronB says:
    @MEFOBILLS

    Ok great.

    As you clearly state that once we no longer live among you, you no longer get to blame us for your corrupt culture, I have no quarrel with you.

    I just don’t want to hear that “Zionists” are mind controlling you from their base in Israel, and all your problems and your corrupt secular culture is still our fault somehow.

    Since I consider Jews to have been heavily corrupted by secular European culture, we can both agree that a separation would be a paradise.

    I am glad we have come to a satisfactory arrangement.

    • Replies: @MEFOBILLS
  153. MEFOBILLS says:

    (BTW-I’m a freedom of association dude, so I think it’s a good idea to oppose de jure segregation and miscegenation laws. Likewise, the “mandatory association” of “civil rights” laws is bad mojo.)

    With a sovereign money system, it is easy enough to pay people to leave. That way it is voluntary, and people self segregate. White people who are naturally moral will never go for de jure segregation.

    It is the case that our (((friends))) have hosted us using the money system, especially by funding their activities through usury and rents.

    Black slavery was the end result of “capital” from Wall Street and London, creating a business plan. Slave ships were always full, on the outbound leg they were filled with timber, hemp, and rum. Our (((friends))) are deeply implicated here as well, as they worked their capital and engaged in modes that undermined their host nation.

    http://www.sovereignmoney.eu

    It all begins and ends with the money.

    • Replies: @Wally
  154. MEFOBILLS says:
    @AaronB

    I just don’t want to hear that “Zionists” are mind controlling you from their base in Israel, and all your problems and your corrupt secular culture is still our fault somehow.

    Jews did and do corrupt white Christian cultures.
    History on this is more than clear.

    Separation is important… a healthy host will shake off its parasites.

    Herzyl wanted Jews to be laborers, and scientists, and bakers and to do all the things normal citizens do in normal countries.

    Unfortunately, Zionism got in bed with Rothschild at the first Zionist conference, and what Herzyl wanted has not come to fruition.

    Jews have their own internal problems to deal with, most especially the takeover by Cabala and the dark forces. It seems to me you want to blame others and not look in the mirror.

  155. Seraphim says:
    @S

    You may add South Africa where gold was discovered first in 1852, but kept secret until 1884 when Cecil Rhodes took the matter in his own hands and the Gold Rush began in earnest attracting a huge influx of population. It was one of the causes of the Boer War.
    Sure that the ‘dream’ (‘auri sacra fames’) was the driving force of ‘every person’ who rushed voluntarily into the wildernesses of California, Australia, South Africa. Finding the ‘Eldorado’ was the dream of the first colonizers of the New World. It was this ‘hunger’ that was deftly exploited to induce the massive immigration of cheap labour.

  156. Seraphim says:
    @Anon

    The trouble is that there are no indications that Yamnaya culture has ever used the symbol of swastika. Apart from the fact that it is an ‘archetypal’ symbol, we have an abundance of it in the areas of Neolithic-Chalcolitic civilizations which predate by far the Yamnaya.

    Anyhow, the Yamnaya people were not of the blond blue-eyed nordic type, but:
    “The genetic basis of a number of physical features of the Yamnaya people were ascertained by the ancient DNA studies conducted by Haak et al. (2015), Wilde et al. (2014) and Mathieson et al. (2015): they were genetically tall (phenotypic height is determined by both genetics and environmental factors), overwhelmingly dark-eyed (brown), dark-haired and had a skin colour that was moderately light, though somewhat darker than that of the average modern European. Despite their pastoral lifestyle, there was little evidence of lactase persistence. -Wikipedia.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @SWM C.
  157. @Guillaume Durocher

    The Romans had to fight three bloody revolts instigated by Jewish zealots which cost hundreds of thousands of deaths before throwing the Jews out of Jerusalem . Rome also had to fight three wars with Carthage before burning it to the ground. The ferocity of the Jews probably reminded them of Carthage.

    • Agree: Guillaume Durocher
  158. Anon[104] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    twisting reality to deconstruct the european identity very jewish of you .

    the unbroken like from ancestral north eurasians to eastern hunter gatherers and the indo european expansion make it 100% certain , that their coisins in america still held the symbol sacred is a definitve proof of their racial link
    The cucutemi culture obviously was bordering yamnaya so cultural difusion like it happened from india to east asia is certain.

    And about yamnaya north euro / north east euros have the highest admixture in the world

    https://ibb.co/W6GP3Qt

    • Replies: @anon
  159. anon[310] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    The pseudo-intellectual Seraphim is very skilled at copying and pasting walls of text from Wikipedia, which he considers a “comment.”

  160. anon[310] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    > very jewish of you

    Perhaps, yet Seraphim appears rather to be a dumb nigger. See comment #122. Last year, he was promoting the Afrocentric, Black-Supremacist “Melanin Theory” that Whites are mutant albino Africans. LOL! All his “research” stems from fringe Black Supremacist websites full of coon kookery. That boy truly puts the dumb in dumb nigger.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  161. Sean says:
    @Epigon

    It was apparently accepted and even encouraged for Spartan women to have children with men other than their husband, and this would have restricted the number of legitimate heirs. Spartan women (like Helen of Troy) were widely regarded as the biggest sluts of the Ancient world. Athenians called Spartan women fainomérides (“those that show the thighs”) because the Spartan women wore the Dorian dress, which was short and split to the waist. It made their legs look long, like a Playboy bunny costume.

  162. MEFOBILLS says:
    @Epigon

    Wasn’t the cause of Spartan downfall the equal, female inheritance

    Babylon makes loans to their northern neighbor, Persia. Loan rate = 33 1/3%, payable in gold.

    Persia then must pay double the amount in about three years. Persia pays off most of the principle but finds there no gold as money left in circulation and she still owes Babylon’s bankers the interest on the loan.

    King of Persia finds his commerce coming to a halt, except for barter, as the money supply had dried up. There was no gold for taxes, and hence King could not pay his retainers.

    King Cyrus needed gold, and Babylon had the gold Persia needed. Persia then goes to war against her creditor (Babylon) and conquered Babylon in 536 BC. Persia then confiscated Babylon’s gold.
    Persia then adopted Babylon’s usury system.

    Persia spends the confiscated gold into her economy. New cities are built, there is a flash of economic activity. Armies were outfitted, palaces were built. Persian merchants also went to Greece.

    Greeks wanted Persian wares, so she borrowed with the promise of returning the gold loans plus interest.

    In 412 BC Sparta borrowed 5000 talents from Persia to build warships. Seven years later, in 405BC, Lysander of Sparta used these ships to destroy the Athenian fleet. Athens fleet was drawn up on the beaches at time of attack.

    Sparta then became number one in Greece on borrowed money.

    When Sparta won, she transferred her Persian debt to Athens. Athenians had a debt hook thrust into their mouth.

    These loans drained Greece of money and paved the way for unending war.

    “Thou shalt not lend upon usury to they brother.” Deu. 23:19

  163. Seraphim says:
    @anon

    I wonder how many people laugh at your idiotical ‘comments’ as much as I do. But keep going, I said once that we need the comical relief and I am happy that you oblige providing it.

    • Replies: @anon
  164. anon[831] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    Your narcissistic reaction is hardly surprising.

    Blacks are more likely than Whites to be narcissistic.
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0092656611000912

  165. @MEFOBILLS

    For the long term best interests of blacks and those they encounter, the pathological tolerance of black wrongdoing as promoted by Jews as part of their #Jews4whiteGenocide initiative must cease.

    Of course black violence is genetic. Evolution predicts variation among the species, or “races.”

    With regards to cultural intervention, blacks behave when their is omnipresent fear, such as the old south.

    Blacks have no fear of incarceration or the vague concept of capital punishment.

    Hideously disproportionate black crime in the forms of violence, theft and quasi criminal immorality of sexual promiscuity can only be deterred by castration and public corporal punishment. United States Colored Troops Civil War Veteran Amputee William Hannibal Thomas wrote of this need over one hundred years ago, and Jew facilitation of black wrongdoing has increased the problem exponentially since.

  166. @Anonymous

    PROFOUND TRUTH:

    To all those here who think that civili(z)ations are just doomed no matter what please think on the topic of the Byzantine empire. As Eustace (M)ullins once commented it is not taught about in schools and universities today because it is an example of what happens when the infiltrations of Jews are controlled. They were not allowed to control the money supply or infiltrate the civil service or indoctrinate the young. The empire was just a continuation of old Rome relocated to the east to capture trade flows from China. In other words the Roman empire continued on another thousand years after everyone tends to think it did. It lasted one thousand years and was only finally destroyed when Jews let the Turks in through the Jewish q(u)arter of Constantinople.

    EXACTLY WHY IT’S SO IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THIS ABOUT DAVID HOROWITZ’ JIHADWATCH.ORG:

    http://www.unz.com/gdurocher/young-de-gaulle-on-the-jews-of-poland/#comment-3289914

  167. @foobc1

    Dear Seraphim:

    The Persian King Darius the Great ca. 500 BC says I made this inscription in Aryan and in other languages. The equivalence of Aryan to those others became key to decipher them.

    The Sasanian king Shapur ca. 300 AD proclaims himself in his inscription King of the Aryans and the un-Aryans by virtue of the fact that since Cyrus Aryans most of the time held suzerainty over non-Aryans.

    In the scriptures of Zoroastrainism the pre-Islamic religion of Iran and the religion of the Parsees of India as well as the remaining Zoroastrianism in Iran, God says the first and the best of the good lands I created was Airyana Vaeja, a term which is rendered into English as the expanse of the Aryans or homeland of the Aryans. The language Zoroaster spoke and the Sanskrit language are very close indeed; they are just dialects of each other.

    What is meant by the post WWII corruption of the term, which may have commenced before, is that Aryan has come to be associated with blonde type whereas in origin it has no physical connotation. In Avestan, Sanskrit as well as Old Irish (the eire you have duly referred to) it means noble.

    You will see that here : http://www.richardfrye.org/files/Jefferson_and_Cyrus11.pdf

    There are more vestiges of the term that remain in the languages of the Caucasus.

    Kind Regards

    Philodorian

  168. @Anonymous

    How do you think dysgenics might have been halted? Once you have bright women, whether or not medical specialists, lawyers or entrepreneurs, putting off having children till they are in their thirties and then only having two isn’t dysgenic inevitable? Add in the survival of infants who would not have survived and welfare support for dim single mothers…..

  169. SWM C. says:
    @John Regan

    Tou are an idiot. Germanics were the most conflict selected and warlike in Europe. Northern European prehistory is pure savagery.

    http://www.dandebat.dk/eng-dk-historie7.htm

    North Euros are also the most ethnocentric historically.

  170. SWM C. says:
    @Seraphim

    Yamnaya in southern europe (ukraine) were not blond due to caucasus admixture. Earlier indo Europeans (such as the Samara hunter gatherer, who was similar to Yamnaya) were blond. Regardless, the craniometric form of Yamnaya skulls and their ancestors was Nordic:

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1563011010000152

  171. Wally says:
    @MEFOBILLS

    said:
    “It all begins and ends with the money.”

    Nope. Inconvenient facts:

    It all “began” with black Africans selling their slaves to slave dealers, who were largely Jews.
    Also, Jews were by far the disproportionate slave owners in the pre ‘Civil War’ US south.

    African chiefs urged to apologise for slave trade
    Nigerian civil rights group says tribal leaders’ ancestors sold people to slavers and should say sorry

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/nov/18/africans-apologise-slave-trade
    “African chiefs were the ones waging war on each other and capturing their own people and selling them. If anyone should apologise it should be the African chiefs. We still have those traitors here even today.”

    – Black researcher, Dr. Tony Martin, let’s us know who the prime sellers & owners of slaves really were, Jews.
    Dr. Tony Martin – The Jewish Role in the African Slave Trade
    “75% of southern Jewish households owned slaves”

  172. Patrick says:

    Guillaume is becoming one of my favorite authors, great articles. On this issue of appropriation of Greco-Roman stuff by leftists, I sometimes question if maybe it is academics linking it with leftist stuff simply because they don’t want its association with right wing stuff to get Greco-Roman culture hounded out of the universities.

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