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Some people seem hell-bent on acting out anti-Semitic stereotypes. If Bernard-Henri Lévy embodies a caricatural warmongering supremacist Zionist, Jacques Attali has become the poster child for the anti-national globalist. The French civic-nationalist and anti-Zionist website Égalité & Réconciliation aptly sums up Attali as “the French embodiment of social-democratic Zionism, of soft Zionism, or of pro-EU globalist immigrationism, the eulogist of a miscegenated France [une France métisée]. Open to all (southern) winds and to all religions.”

Attali recently came to my attention with a perfectly self-explanatory tweet:

“Sovereignism is nothing but the new name of anti-Semitism. Jews and Muslims, who are both threatened by it, must unite against the fantasies of the great replacement.”

Thus, Attali equates the fight for national and popular sovereignty – a founding principle of the American and French revolutions – with one of the worst evils imaginable: the centuries-old and wholly irrational hatred of the Jews. Gentile sovereignty must therefore be oppose, as should, quite tellingly, any mention of European demographic substitution through mass immigration.

This is remarkable insofar as “sovereignism” (souverainisme) is in fact merely a form of civic nationalism: it wishes to restore the formal sovereignty of the French nation-state. Sovereignists are typically critical of the European Union but often open to “assimilated” Africans and Muslims. Identitarians tend to be critical or indifferent towards sovereignism insofar as it distracts French patriots from the more fundamental and challenging problem: the demographic decline and replacement of indigenous Europeans.

Attali is a Jew born in Algeria. His attack on gentile sovereignty and his call for a Jewish-Muslim alliance of course would be a particularly brazen example of the behavior documented by Professor Kevin MacDonald in his celebrated Culture of Critique series.

Attali’s tweet promotes a recent article of his which in fact is somewhat more nuanced. Instead of a blanket condemnation of sovereignism, the article points out that “often” sovereignism is a mere cover for an opposition to Muslim and African immigration as such, a form of dog-whistling. This is actually true. Perhaps the tweet is a troll to get attention.

Attali wrote the piece to criticize fellow Jews who have been critical of immigration or defended some form of French identity. These include Éric Zemmour, William Goldnadel, and Alain Finkielkraut. Attali writes:

In particular, it is sad to see the descendants of Algerian Jews forget the magnificent role played by Muslim Algerians in supporting and protecting their parents, during the horrible days of triumphant anti-Semitism in France proper and even more so in Algeria, under Vichy, under Giraud, and even under De Gaulle.

We see that even De Gaulle, who staked his entire career on opposing Hitlerism, is thrown under the bus. I am not aware of Muslims having been particularly friendly to the Jews during this period (the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem notoriously supported Hitler and Bosnian Muslims joined the Waffen-SS). It is true that Vichy’s anti-Semitic legislation was not immediately abrogated upon Giraud and De Gaulle’s taking charge during the Libération.

Attali furthermore argues that if Jews support indigenous Europeans in opposing Afro-Muslim immigration, this “[w]ould be to fall in the trap of those who would like to import in Europe the tragic conflict in the Middle East.” Of course, the simplest and best way to avoid ethno-religious conflict between Arabs/Muslims and other groups in France would simply be to oppose immigration and maintain France’s ethnic homogeneity. The basic insight that ethno-cultural identity is a factor for solidarity and social peace was of course understood by ancient Greek thinkers like Aristotle and by the American Founding Fathers, but this is now considered taboo in the West.

The article is full of the usual tropes: “First of all, this discourse [on immigration] is false. There is no invasion of France by Islam or by Africa.” He points out that annual non-European immigration amounts to “only” 0.5% of the total population. Of course if such a rate, which has been very roughly in place since the 1960s, were continued for a century, that alone would be enough to reduce the indigenous French population to a minority; not to mention the fact that the first generation of Afro-Muslim immigrants tend to have a much higher birthrate than the natives. Currently, non-whites are estimated to make up a third of births in France and the country will probably become majority non-white in the 2060s.

Thus, by Attali’s own admission, demographic replacement of native French population is indeed occurring, something without precedent in our history. Even the so-called Barbarian Invasions by the Germanic Tribes during the fall of the Roman Empire do not even come close in scale.

Attali argues that “99% of them [Afro-Muslims] integrate themselves perfectly into the nation.” This is obviously hyperbole. Without getting bogged down into details, many Afro-Muslims (particularly Maghrebis) can be perfectly functional members of society and the immigrants are, to a great extent, assimilating to a rather shallow modern “French culture,” namely the French language, pop culture (rap . . .), and the realities of a social-democratic consumer society. However, there are also significant ethnic ghettos in all major French cities and increasingly even in the villages.

While ethnic realities are to some extent masked by the lack of relevant statistics, the fact is that everyone can observe that stratification and fragmentation of French society along ethnic, racial, and religious lines. This is commented upon by mainstream sociologists and by the top politicians, if only in private. In the best case scenario, the new France black-blanc-beur (black-white-Arab France) so praised by Attali will have ethno-racial realities similar to those of Brazil or, in the worst case, Lebanon.

Attali’s shameless retconning of French history is not even worth rebutting:

Islam is not a threat to France; it is a component since the eighth century. It is through it, and through Jewish philosophers, that Greek thought arrived in France at the turn of the first millennium. And never has the world been better off than when Judaism, Christianity, and Islam worked together to make reason triumph over obscurantism.

For Attali: “France cannot be summed in an often unbearable past, not an often criticizable history. France cannot be accepted en bloc and venerated as such.” I have never heard Attali express similar criticism of Jewish history and Jewry, though he has written at length on the topic.

Furthermore: “[France] must not fall for the fantasies of the ‘great replacement,’ remember that she carries the name of an invading people, and that she is, from her origin, a foremost place for the settlement of innumerable peoples which every Frenchman, wherever he comes from, is the heir to.” That France was founded by a vigorous Germanic tribe – the Franks, a fellow European people who converted to Christianity and merged with the native French – upon the detritus of the decaying Roman Empire is of course no argument for outright submersion under an Afro-Islamic tide.

Attali ascribes opposition to Afro-Islamic immigration as a sign of a lack of French “self-confidence” and reminiscent of “the anti-Italian, anti-Polish, anti-Armenian, and anti-Semitic ideologies of centuries past.” He concludes with a typical redefinition of terms to suit the needs of the current situation: “Anti-Semitism designates a hostility to both Jews and Muslims.” Attali does not even bother to justify this position (Arabs may be Semites but many Muslims are not, including the black Caribbean convert Mickaël Harpon who recently stabbed four police officers to death in Paris).

The combination of Islam with an Africanized majority population which certainly make for a very ‘explosive’ cocktail for France’s future.

Jacques Attali is a leading figure in France’s intellectual-political class, having served as an adviser to Socialist President François Mitterrand in the 1980s. Since then, he has been involved in various banking initiatives and has constantly argued for France to be open to all financial and migratory movements.

A few of his “greatest hits” over the years:

Attali has never manifested any real opposition or alarm at Jewish ethno-nationalism in the form of Zionism and the daily brutalities of Israeli policy. Like his fellow social democrat Paul Krugman across the Atlantic, he might wistfully lament the ‘inevitable’ tragedy and – with a little verbiage as squid ink – ask his readers to move on to more elevating topics, like how to squash gentile nationalism, open up the West to the Third World, and subject all nations to the rule of the proverbial “small, rootless, international clique.”

 
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  1. anon[818] • Disclaimer says:

    “We see that even De Gaulle, who staked his entire career on opposing Hitlerism, is thrown under the bus. I am not aware of Muslims having been particularly friendly to the Jews during this period (the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem notoriously supported Hitler and Bosnian Muslims joined the Waffen-SS). It is true that Vichy’s anti-Semitic legislation was not immediately abrogated upon Giraud and De Gaulle’s taking charge during the Libération.”

    Mufti’s support of Hitler was much less and much less substantial than the German or European support for Hitler . Muslim’s support for Hitler was much less than the organized Christian religious support from Vatican to nonVatican .

    Before throwing in some brownie points to yourself by allusion to stupid guilt by association and before making any lame attempt to buttress your emotional argument, make sure you know some tidbit about history .

    Regarding this Algeria born French guy about making common cause with Muslim, , let me tell you something : go and ask your stupid French citizen to throw those scumbag out of the power who continue to steal kill and exploit SubSaharan countries and stop meddling in Syria or Iran . Muslim don’t need to make common cause with him . But they definitely need to fight the invaders ievery way possible . Democracy has privilege and aura . Citizen elect . Citizen should bear responsibility with consequences if they elect thugs or stupid .

  2. will of d says:
    @anon

    ask first to your saudi and turk muslim brothers to stop medding in all the wars that are happening in the middle east against your muslim brothers and instigating a war with iran .

    • Agree: Alfred
    • Replies: @barr
  3. khanji48 says:
    @anon

    could not have said myself better than this….all they want is to cleanly plunder africa and its resources with no consequences whatsoever, HOWEVER, that is only a fantasy, it is as simple as chicken always comes home to roost, whether they like it or now, so they must stop complaining and yes MAY BE elect a real government who stop invading africa so that africa can breath fresh air…

  4. Richard B says:

    “Sovereignism is nothing but the new name of anti-Semitism. Jews and Muslims, who are both threatened by it, must unite against the fantasies of the great replacement.”

    This is why Schopenhauer said Nothing about Judaism can be confused with Reason.

    Designed to “shame” Gentiles into a state of blind obedience to its authority, the comments emanating from Jewish Supremacy Inc. end up exposing and refuting Jewish Supremacy Inc. itself.

    But really, at this point, Who Gives A Damn What They Think?

    The years 2019 and 2020 will go down in history as the years when we stopped listening to Jewish Supremacy Inc. and started openly defying it.

    And by the way, weren’t Jews trying to convince us not that long ago that the entire Muslim world was antisemitic and for that reason the American government had a moral obligation to bomb it into oblivion?

  5. Vojkan says:

    There would be less anti-semitism if Attali could just stfu as it is his hare-brained ideas that are fueling it.

  6. barr says:
    @will of d

    False argument and pretty emotional but patently uninformed . Saudi are bad Turkey are also Both have been maintained on life support by UK-US. Saudi was created exclusively to serve that purpose which UK envisioned in 1920 culminating into defeat of the national pan Arabist secular forces by 1928 .

    Turkey has a long checkered history but from 1950 to 2000 , the history revolved around doing what US wanted.

    How many F**ing Americans roared against Wolfowitz when he threatened Turkey of diplomatic economic retaliation and of military consequences aftr Turkey had refused to toe US line on Saddam????

    In 2011 Turkey was not interested in getting involved in Libya. Read the history . Turkey was forced and was also given wrong information .

    • Replies: @will of d
  7. One thing is true – nationalism in the US and in Europe is antisemitic, that’s a fact. I spent three months on a nationalist Christian site, talking to people and I know how these people think. This nationalist crowd is ignorant, hateful and mean. None of them has read New Testament from beginning to end but all of them think they are Christians. All of them are liars and most of them are just mean, bad-mannered people, a bunch of redneck racists who don’t know even their own culture but hate all others, most of all – the Jewish culture. Yet all of their gentile cultural foundation is Jewish: all the books, all the heroes, all the saints, all the ideas.

    These people are all Christians, and at the same time most of them praise and cherish Nietzsche who wrote a book he called The Antichrist, as well as others in which he demolishes Christian values and introduces the concept of Übermensch, the master race. These Christians admire Nietzsche, but hate the Jews because they were told that the Jews wrote it in the Talmud that they are the master race, and that the Gentiles are “cattle” to them. How weird, the ideas are the same but in the case of Nietzsche they love them, and in the case of Jews they hate them, because these ideas suddenly become immoral.

    Not once and not twice, but many times I offered to them to debunk any of the fake Talmud quotations and show them the real piece of the text, no matter how obscure. I’ll find it!

    None of them has been interested to see whether these quotations are true. I think most of them know they are fake. Most of them know where they come from – Christian pastors and scholars, such as Michael Hoffman and others, any time I stumbled upon one of those fake quotations they were coming from some kind of devoted Christian. And that means that he or she lied intentionally, because they all had the source in front of them which they twisted and presented in a distorted form. They knew what they were doing, so how Christian is that?

    Yes, this new kind of nationalism is antisemitic.

  8. Anon[455] • Disclaimer says:
    @Richard B

    To stop having guides, or masters even, one (a population in this case) has to first mature…
    No, 2019-20 isn’t the time certain populations will mature.

    • Replies: @Richard B
  9. @Richard B

    The Church managed to keep gentiles under the most blind obedience for 13 centuries, how do you manage to not see that? This is a long piece of time.

    You are posting comments on a Jewish site now. How do you manage to not see that? This is not your site, is it?

    • Replies: @Richard B
    , @HilaireBelloc
  10. Abdullah says:

    The right wing “hard” zionist Jew advocates wars for Israel using gentile blood and treasure, while the likes of “soft” zionist Jews like this sucker here advocates for bringing the traumatized and often disturbed and angry survivors into Europe

    Most of us are very content living here, are accustomed to the weather and the cuisine and if left to our own devices wouldn’t want to live out the rest of our lives in a strange land. And most of us wish to take down the poisonous al saud tribe who without support from the Americans would have been down by now.

    I wish the ‘alt righters’ here luck and may we be able to stop the zionist before he wrecks both our worlds

  11. Richard B says:
    @The Dark Night

    TUR should offer a “DUMB COMMENT!” response.

    But since they don’t I’ll write it myself.

    DUMB COMMENT!

  12. Richard B says:
    @Anon

    Are you referring to Jewish Supremacy Inc. as a “guide” and “master”?

    Are you insane?

    Gangsters don’t guide and they certainly aren’t masters, of anything.

    They’re just criminals.

    No, 2019-20 isn’t the time certain populations will mature.

    Part of the Pretzel Logic of Jewish Supreamcy is to respond to its own deliberate misinterpretations as if they’re responding to something someone actually said.

    Again, it’s why Schopenhauer said that nothing about Judaism can be confused with Reason.

    I’m talking about people responding. And they already are whether you like it or not.

  13. David says:

    one of the worst evils imaginable: the centuries-old and wholly irrational hatred of the Jews.

    The author really should make a case for this assertion. Or have his imagination checked.

    • Agree: Ace
    • Replies: @Druid
    , @Miggle
    , @Miggle
  14. Talha says:
    @Abdullah

    and if left to our own devices wouldn’t want to live out the rest of our lives in a strange land.

    Agree. Living in the West, I’m seeing what it is doing to the Muslims that come here – it is not for the faint of heart. Not worth the risk to one’s faith. These Muslims that end up here often get caught up in the worst parts of Western culture and then become a major liability to their own souls and the society around them.

    We shouldn’t demand that the West open its borders to more Muslims, but we should absolutely demand that they stop screwing up any relatively stable countries in the region.

    And most of us wish to take down the poisonous al saud tribe who without support from the Americans would have been down by now…may we be able to stop the zionist before he wrecks both our worlds

    Ameen. I don’t know of any Muslim (other than Saudis or Salafi-Wahhabi types who seem to think that Abdul Wahhab was some kind of Messiah) who like who or how that place is run.

    Wa salaam.

    • Agree: Druid
    • Replies: @AnonStarter
    , @Robjil
    , @Abdullah
  15. anon[117] • Disclaimer says:

    Doubting the Iranian aggression through seeking nuke is antisemitic. Hats what Black insinuated onetime during Obama administration

  16. Zumbuddi says:

    “Yes, this new mind of nationalism is antisemitic.”

    You say that like it’s a bad thing.

    • LOL: Digital Samizdat
  17. peterike says:
    @The Dark Night

    redneck racists who don’t know even their own culture but hate all others, most of all – the Jewish culture. Yet all of their gentile cultural foundation is Jewish: all the books, all the heroes, all the saints, all the ideas.

    What white nationalist anti-semitism has to do with “Jewish culture”, the Bible, etc. is precisely nothing. Nobody cares about this. What matters is that Jews are openly seeking to destroy white culture and white people. All your finger-pointing about “how Christian is that?” is an obvious diversionary tactic, and not especially well done.

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  18. Ian Smith says:
    @Richard B

    They are good at getting into our heads.

  19. nyetnejdi says:
    @Vojkan

    Zionists like Attali and other pieces of dog shit are a plague destroying Europe. As for the wretched criminal Saudis, let us hope their end is drawing nigh, thanks to the Houtis and their helpers.

  20. will of d says:
    @barr

    ohhhh but is the same here in the west the will of the people and the ones suposedly directing the nation has been long ago hickjacked like brexit or trump patently shows

    • Replies: @anon
  21. Anonymous[300] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s a world wide Jewish phenomenon.

    Guess what counts as ‘hate speech’ on Facebook?

  22. @Talha

    Whenever statistics for the majority of “acts of terrorism” committed by Muslims are presented, there’s always a direct correlation between American coalition occupation of or meddling in those lands where they occur. Never does this reality merit mention in the rhetoric of fundamentally zionist think thanks.

    A Saudi expat in America is rationally afraid of operatives in the local Muslim community, which would explain why many of them continue to toe the kingdom’s line even if they’re legally free to do otherwise. I’ve witnessed this kind of behavior from expats of other countries as well. When you’ve been raised under that yoke of tyranny for so long, it’s difficult to imagine that you can ever escape it, especially when the possibility of retribution is very real.

    You don’t have to be a Khashoggi to understand it.

    was-salaam.

    • Replies: @Talha
  23. anon[425] • Disclaimer says:
    @will of d

    Yes, at the end of the day , human being of all classes religions languages and of different geographic bases have overlapping interests , attractions, ideologies and overlapping motives . It is the sense of justice and honesty that propels the moral compass. Atheist , Jewish , Hindu , Muslim , Christians and agnostics – all can grab learn internalize and be also born with that moral compass .

    All can be also worst psychopath thinking God is on their side of criminality . Also they can build interfaith prostitution , engage into inter-identity rendezvous of bar fight , prosecute worst crime together and can bear down on the neck and the chest of coreligionists in the name of greater God or values or protection .

    US UK Israel Saudi Gulf fit the later .

  24. will of d says:

    and he is right that european nationalism is anti jewish or antisemite like its called this days ,having sovereignty over your own country and being the your master of your own destiny is the antitesis of jewiness an ethnireligious supremacist doctrine that see the rest as nothing more than cattle to slave.

  25. Druid says:
    @Richard B

    I’m sympathetic to Islam and I say Muslims should not make common cause with Jews. They’re being used. The talmudist cannot be trusted, ever!

    • Replies: @anon
  26. Druid says:
    @David

    Usury, slavery, prostitution, gambling dens, drug cartels. On and on!

  27. Talha says:
    @AnonStarter

    there’s always a direct correlation between American coalition occupation of or meddling in those lands where they occur

    Sure, but it simply presents a feedback loop that then allows the elites to further their agenda by saying; see, we told you – we have to fight them over there or we’ll have to fight them over here.

    A Saudi expat in America is rationally afraid of operatives in the local Muslim community, which would explain why many of them continue to toe the kingdom’s line even if they’re legally free to do otherwise.

    I’m certain this happens, I know people from various Arab countries that are guarded and cautious about what they say since they know people within their circle of acquaintances might be mukhabbarat (this honestly took getting used to as a person from Pakistan – the country may be dysfunctional, but you can pretty much say anything about the government), but you can tell the difference between someone who is cautiously guarded about what they say and someone who is an over-the-top hyper-nationalist.

    Wa salaam.

    • Replies: @AnonStarter
  28. anon[818] • Disclaimer says:
    @Druid

    Saudi is vulnerable . They are corrupt and polluted . Through them zIsrael ( Zionist ) are making inroads . Destruction of Saudi Royal clan is the only alternative left for the Muslim to survive what the Jews have done to the Christianity.
    Christian need to n help the Muslim understand the danger the Muslim face

  29. Vetran says:

    I am not aware of Muslims having been particularly friendly to the Jews during this period (the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem notoriously supported Hitler and Bosnian Muslims joined the Waffen-SS)

    Guillaume, you seem to ignore Mohammed V of Morocco as well as Moncef Bey of Tunisia, opposed Vichy’s legislation during WW2. As protectors of their Jewish subjects they prevented the deportation of hundreds of thousands jews to Nazis camps. There is now a square named after Mohammed V in the city of Ashkelon and he has even his place in the Yad Vashem memorial.
    Granted, we don’t know for sure whether their benevolence toward the jews was genuine or because as nationalists they resented the French protectorate, especially the Vichy’s diktats.
    However as said in an early post, make sure you know some tidbit of history before embarking into guilt by association.

  30. @The Dark Night

    but many times I offered to them to debunk any of the fake Talmud quotations and show them the real piece of the text, no matter how obscure.

    You are not telling the truth. Those quotations are generally known because Israel Shahak spoke about them in his short book about the religion. When I read the book and the discussions about the Talmud I tryed to get some additional information about this question. There was a long text by a Jew called “a letter to my rabbi” telling about his many difficulties with the religion. The last part of the text was about such quotations and the view of non-Jews that they display .

    I also read a text by a psychologist who was disturberd with such quotations and decided to look for himself using a competent translation and analysing the context. His view was as sympathetic as possible. He tried to excuse a lot of the quotations saying that they were the product of the times when they were written. But the fact is that such quotations are right, they can be found in the Talmud and that no context excuses them. He was quite upset and disturbed by the fact that some rabbis had tried to deny the existence of such quotations resorting to dishonest tricks (for exemple, it occurred that some quotations give the place where they are found with a number and a letter and it happened that the right letter was a “b” while the quotation indicated a “d”. The rabbis would then say that in the place that was given no such quotation could be found, but this was only a mistake that happens when you write and the rabbis knew that, they were only trying to deceive (there is a shocking case of a rabbi trying to deceive in order to protect a criminal in the book Postville by Stephen Bloom, (a very interesting book, but don’t confound with another book with the same title): Postville: A Clash of Cultures in Heartland America.)

    Besides, there are other scholar sources which discuss Jewish hatred against non-Jews like for instance the book by Elliott Horowiz about Purim: “Reckless Rites: Purim and the Legacy of Jewish Violence” (it’s a very scholarly book with lot of theoretical discussions about theology and not at all suitable for a casual reading).

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  31. must unite against the fantasies of the great replacement.”

    Yeah, “fantasies.” Because if it was acknowledged as reality some people might notice that Jews rank among its most enthusiastic, determined engineers.

    Then again, this is just the classic immigration-booster two-step. First, flatly deny that whites are being replaced. Second, grudgingly concede it, but then quickly claim it’s now “too late” to do anything about it.

    Attali’s shameless retconning of French history is not even worth rebutting:

    This is one of the most infuriating of Jewish double standards. They’d never countenance Europeans distorting Jewish history as shamelessly as they distort European history. Hell, even accurately relating their history also counts as “anti-semitism.” Instead, we have to bite our tongues and sign off on fanciful Zionist accounts of Palestinian history, in which Jews were innocent, hopelessly outnumbered, little lambs only fighting for their rights against the savage Arab hordes who were plotting their genocide.

  32. Altai says:

    “[France] must not fall for the fantasies of the ‘great replacement,’ remember that she carries the name of an invading people, and that she is, from her origin, a foremost place for the settlement of innumerable peoples which every Frenchman, wherever he comes from, is the heir to.”

    This whole ‘x was always a country of immigrants’ always comes back to referring to brutal invasions that were violently resisted involving vastly fewer numbers and far less (Often minor and due to the invaders settling primarily in cities, confined to specific regions and becoming diluted over time) overall demographic genetic replacement all the while saying “There is no invasion”.

    I do wonder though if Attali makes exceptions for Iceland?

  33. @The Dark Night

    One thing is true – nationalism in the US and in Europe is antisemitic,…

    And high time too!

    Antisemitism is a mitzvah.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  34. Just when I thought my jew fatigue could not get any worse………

    • Agree: Webster
  35. @silviosilver

    Although I would not advocate deliberately fostering anti-semitism, if it’s a by-product of our trying to secure our countries and our futures, I will regard it only as a minor downside of no moral importance or signifcance to me.

    Let Naftali hie his duplicitous tail to Israel, instead of working to undermine the gentile society where he currently is squatting.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
  36. @Vojkan

    The problem, of course, is that those “hare-brained ideas” aren’t Attali’s alone; they are pretty much generic to all his globalist Jewish friends–whether in France or in some other White nation.

  37. @Abdullah

    I think we may be able to make common cause, Abdullah. We certainly share a common enemy: the poisonous ‘tribe’ of Israel.

  38. @silviosilver

    ‘Anti-semitism’ used to mean something that was bad for the Jews; now it just means anything that is good for the Gentiles.

    • Replies: @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
  39. @UncommonGround

    This is the best you people can do: first, call me a liar, to begin with. You forgot to quote me lying, man. If I am such a liar, than how come none of you has ever caught me on a lie?

    Now if you’re calling me a liar, without proving that I am a liar, than it is you who is lying, You are a liar.

    No one including me has ever said that the Talmud is a book of piece and love and universal happiness. There’s plenty of dark pages in it. There are regulations, meant to create segregation between Jews and other people, which can be seen as xenophobic. There are expressions, which can be seen as an example of arrogance, and these attitudes are the product of the teaching, which no one denies. This problem is known and recognized among the Jews. “A letter to my rabbi” is one of many pieces that Jews have written about this.

    However, there is a big difference between saying that, for example the Talmud teaches Jews “Even the best of gentiles should be killed!” and the real thing, when this phrase is found in a Renaissance era treatise and it says, “The best of gentiles, kill him at the time of war” and the whole chapter is about a war between nations.

    There is a difference between saying that Jews consider gentiles cattle, and that the Hebrew word for cattle and gentile is the same word and the real situation, because the Hebrew word “gentile” has no connection to cattle whatsoever. And never is it mentioned in the Talmud that gentiles are cattle, or something like cattle. Sometimes gentiles are compared to assess – but compared only, and there is a special discussion which explains that despite such a comparison, gentiles are people same as the Jews.

    There is a theological concept in Kabbalah, that discriminates between souls of the Jews and souls of gentiles, according to which souls of the Jews come from the pure spheres and souls of gentiles come from the impure spheres, but this doesn’t mean that the Jews hate gentiles or think that gentiles are less human. First of all, the definition of who is a Jew is different in Kabbalah and in fact any gentile in the context of Kabbalah can be a Jew and have a Jewish soul, not knowing about this.

    Any gentile can become a Jew. And an intelligent gentile can become a rabbi. All this would take about 10 years. Not a very big deal. Like getting education – which it is. Judaism does not exclude gentiles, and this proves and shows that it is not racist.

  40. @peterike

    Jews are white people, and “white culture” is Jewish culture. You need to go back to school and learn those ancient history classes you missed. Jewish diasporas in the ancient Greece and Rome are among the most ancient peoples of the West, the Jews were Europeans long before the rest of them. And all of the European cultures are based on the Jewish culture. You don’t even know your “white culture” son.

    I’ve never heard any of your ilk to speak about this “white culture” whatever that means. You never discuss the great European artists, or pieces of modern art about which you know very little, and even that little is wrong. You always talk about Byron and Mozart, and then about Mozart and Byron. You are a bunch of ignorant and outdated people. A mob, scared and paranoid. And you are going to lose.

  41. anarchyst says:

    It is obvious that “The Dark Knight” is working out of IDF unit 8200 in order to counter the TRUTH about “his people”.

  42. @The Dark Night

    Israel Shahak Jewish History, Jewish Religion -The Weight of Three Thousand Years

    … in addition to a series of scurrilous sexual allegations against Jesus, the Talmud states that his punishment in hell is to be immersed in boiling excrement – a statement not exactly calculated to endear the Talmud to devout Christians. Or one can quote the precept according to which Jews are instructed to burn, publicly if possible, any copy of the New Testament that comes into their hands. (This is not only still in force but actually practiced today; thus on 23 March 1980 hundreds of copies of the New Testament were publicly and ceremonially burnt in Jerusalem under the auspices of Yad Le’akhim, a Jewish religious organization subsidized by the Israeli Ministry of Religions.)

    Is Israel Shahak lying? How can Jews and Christians ever be friends? It would seem to me that if they are honest to themselves and each other they should be the deadliest of enemies.

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  43. @The Dark Night

    Any gentile can become a Jew.

    How generous of you. For your knowledge, any Jew can also become a Christian. But the process is a bit different. To become a Christian, you don’t have to belong to any community, you don’t have to become a member of any community and it doesn’t matter who you are or where you are from. It’s simply a religious matter.

    For Judaism on the other hand the question doesn’t seem to have any religious meaning, that’s the reason why many Jews aren’t religious but keep being Jews. Some time ago Marc Ellis said in an article by him that many rabbis don’t believe in God and that believing in God isn’t part of their job anyway.

    I remeber years ago when a group of Peruvians of the Andes converted to Judaism and were accepted as Jews. But there was a condition. They should go to Israel and were sent to the West Bank. Some people commented that they were sent to dangerous places. I don’t know if this was right. One of them who was interviewed seems to have learned everything very fast, I imagine from his rabbi. That’s what he said after the following explanation which was provided in the article: “He (the new Peruvian Jew) bases this belief on his scientific view of Judaism”:

    “The Arab has the instinct of murder and killing like all gentiles, and only Jews do not have that instinct – that is a genetic fact.”

    You say in your comment:

    Now if you’re calling me a liar, without proving that I am a liar, than it is you who is lying, You are a liar.

    Could you tell me where I called you a liar?

    You said that there were fake quotations from the Talmud. I don’t care if there are fake quotations from the Talmud. Fact is that some people call some quotations of the Talmud fake quotations while in reality they are not fake. That’s what I was refering to. And I gave reasons for what I asserted. Unfortunately one of the texts that I mentioned isn’t available anymore. The other text is the “letter to my rabbi”. Contrary to you, the author, Naftali Zeligman, questions such passages in the Talmud in the last part of his text: “Moral problems in the Halacha” which has a subsection called “The status of non-Jews”.

    I’m not going to discuss with you some particular quotations that you introduced now but which I didn’t mention in my comment. What I said can be generally confirmed by what I mentioned in my comment and additionally by what some rabbis have said in the last years about non-Jews and which you can find even in Israeli newspapers, that non-Jews were created to serve Jews, for instance. Ovadia Yosef quoted by the Times of Israel:

    Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel.”

    “Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat… That is why gentiles were created.”

    Another quote:

    On March 17, one of Israel’s two chief rabbis, Yitzhak Yosef, called black people “monkeys” and the Hebrew equivalent of the N-word in his weekly sermon.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @The Dark Night
  44. will of d says:
    @The Dark Night

    judaism is nothing more than a ethno religious supremecist doctrine

    the only thing you contributed to the west was bringing 1000 years of stagnation with cristianity( and even in this case is a complete negation of judaism) that was only supered when we embraced our graeco roman culture in the reinassance that have nothing to do with the magical spirit that encompass eastern mediterranean civilizations
    god, patriarchy ,warrior ethos ,rational spirit are the founding rocks of our aryan heritage you are nothing more than race of merchants that poison everything you touch from carthage,israel being conquered again and again or every ideology you spread from cristianity,comunism or the cultural marxim post ww2 west.

    thats your history a concatenation of failure and parasitism

    we have nothing in common nothing at all

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  45. teotoon says:

    Jews are white people, and “white culture” is Jewish culture. You need to go back to school and learn those ancient history classes you missed. Jewish diasporas in the ancient Greece and Rome are among the most ancient peoples of the West, the Jews were Europeans long before the rest of them. And all of the European cultures are based on the Jewish culture. You don’t even know your “white culture” son.

    The European White is Semitic/Japhethite. The Ashkenazim so-called Jews are Japhethites;they are joined with Edomites who have no part in the promises delivered to Jacob. Also mixed in with the fake Jews are the Canaanites and Jebusites who were not driven out and intermarried and the descendants of the 8 thousand Babylonians who came back with the Jews; whom God called the basket of bad figs.

    As for you, you don’t comprehend that Jacob is divided into two nations: the House of Israel and the House of Judah; Jewry is Edom (https://freedomfromdelusion.blogspot.com/2015/09/israel-is-edom-deception.html). Use the correct terminology.

    The House of Israel became the Cimmerians, Scythians, the ancient Greeks, the Trojans, the ancient Romans, Parthians who contested the eastern portion of the emire and even ruled Jerusalem for a few years (the wise men came from hte northwest traveling east following a certain star); they became the Gothic tribes and moved into Northwestern Europe and became those nations. Those are just a few of the nations formed by the house of Israel. When the House of Israel was still in the Caucus, they aided in the destruction of Babylon, they gathered up the remaining Judahite captives and took them along into Europe.

    • Replies: @teotoon
  46. teotoon says:
    @teotoon

    The royal Judahite tribe of Zerah left Egypt before the Exodus winding up in Iberia, Ireland, then Scotland; and then the Scots-Irish migrated to America, to the southern states .When Jerusalem fell, Jeremiah traveled to Ireland taking a daughter of the king of Judah who married a prince of the line of Zerah: the kingship of the line of David continued.

    The house of Joseph became the first-born and in Manasseh and Ephraim became heirs of the promise. Manasseh is in the US being screwed by the Synagogue of Satan; Ephraim is in Britain and the Commonwealth also being screwed over by the fake Jews.

    None of this taught in American schools. It is forbidden history. The knowledge of this history is the reason why the Learned Elders of Zion target us Israelites in the US and Europe with diversity and multiculturalism: Can’t have a real restored Israel if the true Israelites (Israel and Judah together) are destroyed.

  47. Talha says:
    @UncommonGround

    Some time ago Marc Ellis said in an article by him that many rabbis don’t believe in God and that believing in God isn’t part of their job anyway.

    I do remember reading that article on Mondowiess – pretty interesting.

    I found this article particularly interesting on the subject as well – written in a Jewish magazine. A few things that stand out:
    “This split, or shattering, of the American Jewish community’s once-solid partisan alignments and influence will accelerate a deeper and more important demographic trend, which has been decades in the making: The disappearance of Jews. With intermarriage rates now reportedly at around 72% for non-Orthodox American Jews, the writing is on the wall…”
    “Most American Jews have long had trouble believing in the standard-issue rabbinic God, which, after all, comes to us as a semifinished product of medieval times.”
    “How have most American Jews adapted to their belief-deficit? Jacob Neusner summed it up a long time ago: The State of Israel became the new god and the Holocaust the new liturgy. This shift to a politicized form of Judaism, Rabbi Neusner warned, would not be transmissible across generations.”
    https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/282724/the-collapse

    I can tell you right now that the Muslim community is taking notes on this spiritual collapse within that community and drawing lessons from it. We can already see a similar politicization in lieu of theology within our ranks – Ilhan Omar is a good public example.

    Also, I found this to be an interesting read. A survey of many rabbis across denominations on four theological/doctrinal questions. It is a bit dated however – from 1966 – so it could use updating (quite a lot has happened since then):
    https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/the-state-of-jewish-belief/

    Peace.

  48. @Commentator Mike

    Yes and no.

    Shahak is not lying, but he is not telling all the truth. He was a secular left-wing Jew and it explains his attitude in general. However, when he speaks about these depictions of Jesus in the Talmud you need to remember that there are many more of similar or the same stories about the Jews in the Christian religious folklore. And the Christians burned the Talmud many times too. So why are you accusing the Jews if you are no better?

    • Replies: @silviosilver
  49. @UncommonGround

    The first part of your comment is just a misinformation.

    To become a Jew you don’t have to belong to any community. It’s simply a religious matter as well. The difference is that to convert it takes much more time with the Jews, because they want to be sure you understand what you are doing. They take it seriously, and it must not be forced. You can become a Jew, but this is not easy.

    The second part, you called me a liar when you said “You are not telling the truth.” Which means I am lying.

    And you again said that I am lying speaking of the Talmud quotations about which you know that they are true, though you can’t show them in the actual Talmud. And agin you fail to understand that there is no common opinions among the rabbis on any question. You can become a rabbi and speak your own mind.

  50. @will of d

    Yeah, right.

    All this Renaissance culture is Jewish. You Christians exterminated all the alternatives to the Mother Church so when the book printing started the Renaissance, all the best goodies were with the Jews. The Jews translated the Arabic and Greek books on Alchemy and Astrology, the Jews invented Kabbalah and influenced the best Renaissance thinkers. Without the Jews, the Renaissance would not be possible at all.

    • Replies: @Anon
  51. Nalca says:
    @The Dark Night

    What the hell are you smoking ?
    Jews come from the region of Judea, which is in Asia, hence they are of Asian origin. (And Arabs too, by the way)
    Greeks, Romans, Celts and Germans – even Vikings, Franks and Goth – are Europeans, because they lived in Europe.

    So no, Jews could not be Europeans before these peoples.

    All those people were not influenced by Jews until the conquest of Judea by the Romans.
    In fact, it’s the opposite, and Jews were influenced by Greeks during Alexander’s conquest of the Achaemenid empire :
    http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/7535-hellenism

    And the main reason those Jewish diasporas existed was because the Romans enslaved them after the Bar Kokhba revolt.

    And all of the European cultures are based on the Jewish culture.

    No, it’s based on Christianity. The religion founded after the crucifixion of Jesus following the condemnation by the Sanhedrin :
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanhedrin_trial_of_Jesus

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  52. @The Dark Night

    And you are going to lose.

    Which is what you want, and which is why it’s accurate to call you anti-white.

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  53. @Kolya Krassotkin

    Although I would not advocate deliberately fostering anti-semitism, if it’s a by-product of our trying to secure our countries and our futures, I will regard it only as a minor downside of no moral importance or signifcance to me.

    At a minimum, they should be relentlessly criticized for their hypocrisy and double standards. They have no good comebacks for this. On other topics they can force you to go around in circles till you drop from exhaustion (as this “Dark Night” hasbara creep is doing on this thread).

    And yes, if anyone wants to go farther than that, it’s of no moral significance to me whatsoever. They have made their bed, let them lie in it.

  54. @The Dark Night

    So why are you accusing the Jews if you are no better?

    But Christians are better. It may have escaped your notice, but Christians have gone to heroic lengths to make up for past misdeeds. Jews struggle to admit to a single instance of wrongdoing, much less to do anything to make up for it. (Call it “Jewish fragility.”)

  55. @silviosilver

    Of course not!

    I am probably whiter than you. I’m whiter than most white people. I have blue eyes and blond hair. I’m a white man.

    And I love European and American culture, I know them well. Probably better, than you. I am pro-white.

    But I also respect and love other cultures, and other peoples. You seem to only be able to respect yourself.

    And you are going to lose, because you are weak. The weak are supposed to die. Darwin taught us. Darwin knew.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
  56. @Richard B

    Different factions with different views and goals.

  57. @Nalca

    No! You are wrong.

    The religion founded after the crucifixion of Jesus was Messianic Judaism. It took 300 years to transform it into Christianity.

    The first Jewish diaspora was founded in Mesopotamia, when the Jews were moved there after the conquest of Israel by Nebuchadnezzar. Then the second diaspora was established in Greece, after the conquest of Israel by Alexander. And later diasporas spread around the Roman Empire. So long before most Europeans, before most European nations were formed the Jews were living in the ancient Greece and Rome.

    The Jews of Greece couldn’t speak Hebrew, and the Torah was translated for them into Greek, so they could read it. Hellenistic Jews were one hundred percent Europeans. And all the first Christians were one hundred percent Jews.

  58. @silviosilver

    What? “Christians have gone to heroic lengths to make up for past misdeeds.” This looks like a title of a children’s book. What are you talking about?

    So far I can see that Christians are doing the same things they have been doing for the last centuries, except for burning people at the stake and torturing witches.

    But in any other respect? Same thing. Worshipping the wooden idol, talking lies about the Jews, raping and seducing children and spreading a false religion.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
  59. @The Dark Night

    Really? The Jews were the first people to settle Europe and ancient Roman, Greek and Germanic cultures are really Jewish cultures? There was some Jewish influence via Christianity, but filtered through pre-Christian practices and attitudes.

    You are right about one thing – one of the issues that I have with Christianity and Islam is that believers are supposed to identify with the peoples and cultures very different from their own. Even as a child, I simply didn’t care about the tales of a desert people.

    I also take issue with evangelicucks who give falsely credit Jews for such uniquely European practices as the idea that you are innocent until proven guilty and jury trials. Liberty and self-government are European concepts derived from the very nature of European men and women, especially the people of north. Middle easterners favor highly regimented and authoritarian forms of government and society, hatred of anyone not of their tribe and contempt for women.

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  60. @Digital Samizdat

    Joseph Sobran wrote that at one time an anti-Semite was someone who hated Jews, but now was someone that Jews hated.

    This guy really lets the cat out of the bag, so to speak. His tribe is the only tribe that matters. The world and everyone on it only exists to serve his tribe. If and when the European people are vanquished, he and his ilk would have no compunction about crushing Moslems. If they could.

    • Replies: @Digital Samizdat
  61. @The Dark Night

    And you are going to lose, because you are weak. The weak are supposed to die. Darwin taught us. Darwin knew.

    I wonder what you’d think of someone who said the same thing about European Jews in 1940.

    Of course, it’s not just “racists” who are going to lose, it’s all Europeans – racist or not. That is apparently what you wish for. That makes you objectively anti-white.

  62. @The Dark Night

    So Christians have done nothing since WWII to make up for past misdeeds? Nothing at all? Lol. I love it. Keep this up, please. You are making my argument for me with every word you utter.

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  63. @silviosilver

    What have the Christians done? Since the WW2, the Christians destroyed many countries: Korea, Vietnam, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Lybia and other countries in Africa. Since the WW2, the Christians have become porn addicts. And they still are keeping wooden idols in churches.

    • Troll: Kolya Krassotkin
    • Replies: @Robjil
    , @Whitewolf
  64. Vetran says:
    @Vetran

    You’re most welcome!
    Durocher?, hum … Monégasque peut être?
    Anyway, great that you bring some French touch (along with the Saker) on UNZ review.
    This being said make sure that in criticizing Attali you don’t fall into Zemmour’s trap. They are two faces of the same coin…

  65. @anon

    Muslim don’t need to make common cause with him . But they definitely need to fight the invaders ievery way possible .

    Mohammedans are the invaders. Ask any Copt. (Away from earshot.)

    • Replies: @Talha
  66. jews are not white.

    jewish DNA is middle eastern, cousins to the Palestinians.

    The ashkenazi have some European blood, but that doesn’t make them white.

    For the most part jews do not identify as white, and most jewish organizations are viciously anti-white.

    Thankfully some of us are capable of pattern recognition.

  67. Talha says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    We’ll think about returning our lands when everyone else thinks about returning theirs. What were the Greeks doing squatting in the Levant and North Africa? Look, if you want to invade a place as an empire and declare it’s yours, you gotta learn to guard your grill.

    Hard knocks.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Robjil
  68. Wow. The Dark Night is on a roll. Must have had some special matzo. Back in the day you could end up in real trouble for doing that. Now, not so much. Still, people are calling it out on the internet so there is that.
    I’m a little confused about this Algerian/French Jew and his ramblings. I thought French Jews were leaving France in droves? I mean, wasn’t that the point of all the Mossad operations? Surely Charlie Hebdo had to be killed for a reason! Don’t tell me Israel isn’t reaping the gains from all that mayhem. Maybe they should burn down Notre Dame…Oh, right. Did that already. hmmm? what to do? what to do?

    Dark Night, I’m all out of ideas. Other than scolding Europeans for being anti-semites what can we do? What can we destroy or blow up? Surely we can assassinate someone?

    Man, I hate it when this happens. It’s like running straight into a wall and all you can do is mumble and shake your head to and fro. Wow. When does the ringing stop?

    • Replies: @Alden
  69. wayfarer says:

    Adalah to UN: Condemn Israel’s Jewish Nation-State Law

  70. @The Dark Night

    You are a bunch of ignorant and outdated people. A mob, scared and paranoid. And you are going to lose.

    You don’t have to wait till Whitey is a minority to see your future. Detoilet awaits your arrival.

  71. Anti-semitism is not only justifiable but wholly necessary, as this vermin shows.

  72. Well that’s a good example of cutting off your head to spire your nose.

    Opposing racist, neurotic kinds of nationalism with sectarian religious cults. A new one too. Well sort of. zionist Judaism with Islam. I assume wahhabis, the only one, compatible with zionist as has already been shown by the collaboration of the headchoppers with the head and leg shooters.

  73. Parfois1 says:
    @The Dark Night

    Yes, this new kind of nationalism is antisemitic.

    So what?

  74. @silviosilver

    For all its faults, Christianity enjoins upon its adherents a moral universality, from which Jews and other non-Christians may benefit, in a way that Judaism does not. A Christian is told “Love your neighbor as yourself” is to extend to even those outside the faith. In contrast, the great Maimonides says, “Love your neighbor as yourself” means you are to love your fellow Jews. (This second case is arguably acceptable, but, it’s clear, how the dictum is applied in the 1st manner may benefit members not of the in-group in a way that the dictum’s application in the 2nd manner does not even intend.)

    Can you imagine a serious Christian asking as his moral acid test, “But is it good for the Christians?” and not be regarded by his more intelligent peers as a crank? The worth of the same question asked by Jews is never held in doubt.

    Judaism’s moral code evolved in the shtetl and remains appropriate to the shtetl. Now, when Jews throughout the world enjoy leadership positions in all arenas of life, it is in serious need of internal reformation if it is to enjoy a just position of moral leadership in the modern world, instead of being mostly a centuries old avatar from the ghetto, now being universally imposed.

  75. @The Dark Night

    “And you are going to lose”. Hilarious, Shlomo. You came out and said it!!! Your supervisor at the yid troll farm won’t be happy about this screwup.

  76. Robjil says:
    @The Dark Night

    Christians have not been in control since 12/23/1913.

    The FED which is Jewish led has been in complete control of the west.

    All those wars of the past century were wars under Jewish FED control. They are not Christian led wars at all.

    Wooden heads of our FED leaders are the problem and not wooden statues.

    Lack of Empathy in the wooden heads of our FED leaders is the problem.

    When our FED leaders leave this earth, they feel all the pain that they create on this earth. There their heads are not so wooden.

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  77. Robjil says:
    @Talha

    The ancient Greeks lived on both sides of the Aegean sea. Ionia is on the Asia Minor side. The Turks took all of Ancient Greece. The Greeks only got back the left side of the Aegean side after WWI.

    The Greeks had colonies all over the seas in the Mediterranean and Black Sea regions. The Olympics was an all Greeks Games since 776 BC. Greeks from North Africa, Asia Minor, Italy, Sicily, Greek Isles, Greek mainland, and Black Sea region came together for Olympic games every four years. Ancient Greeks thought of themselves like frogs on a pond since they were so scattered on waterways all over the Mediterranean and Black Sea.

    https://www.ihc.ucsb.edu/like-frogs-around-a-pond/

    The ancient Greeks were never politically unified before the rise of Rome, yet they succeeded in developing and maintaining a common culture all around the Mediterranean coasts ‘like frogs around a pond’ (Plato Phaedo 109b). Modern scholars struggle to explain how the ancient Greeks could have shared such strong bonds of religion, language and identity, despite a homeland of separate city-states, and large-scale migration and intermarriage with other ancient peoples around the Mediterranean sea. Brown argues that the religious system of sailors and travellers helped the ancient Greeks develop and maintain their common culture all around the Mediterranean sea. Cults of seafaring gods were carried from port to port around ancient Greece, its colonies, and into foreign cities, yet this maritime religion and carriage of cults ‘on the winedark sea’ is not well understood today. The sources are very widely scattered. Bringing this evidence back together, however, reveals a durable yet flexible network of travelling rituals and beliefs which bound the ancient Greeks together in unexpected and close-knit ways, even across great distances and without political bonds.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @nebulafox
  78. Brabantian :” The Obama-like meteoric rise of Emmanuel Macron was sponsored and cultivated by a leading Jewish figure of the French deep state ,the George Soros confederate & Zionist – JACQUES
    ATTALI. ”
    See also : “Meet Emmanuel Macron – The consummate banker puppet , bizarre elitist creation ” By Michael Krieger writing in Liberty Blitzkrieg .

  79. Robjil says:
    @Talha

    This great good”immigration” mantra as good is a joke.

    Leaving one’s homeland is not a good thing.

    Our MSM touts endless immigration as good.

    Why are people leaving their homelands?

    MSM never looks at that aspect.

    If MSM gets their “wish”, then all Africa, Latin America, and poorer parts of Asia would be empty of people.

    Everyone would be in the western world or North East Asia.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Mishima Zaibatsu
  80. @The Dark Night

    The “redneck” historian Tacitus brands the Jews as a race of men hated by the gods. They regard as profane everything that we (Romans) hold as sacred—and vice versa.’ Their practices are base and wicked, and prevail through their own depravity? They are a people most especially inclined to lust. Although they won’t sleep with gentiles, among themselves there is nothing they won’t do (nihil inlicitum). Those who cross over to their ways scorn the gods, abandon their own nation, and hold their parents, siblings, and children cheap. Jewish rites are sordid and ridiculous. Jews throughout
    their history were the most despised of subject peoples and the basest of nations .

    The Christian Apostle Paul says of his fellow Jews that “they please not God, and are contrary to all men” (1 Thess 2:15) and Jseus says that such Jews belong to the “Synagogue of Satan” (Rev 2:9) and that their father is the devil and a murder from the beginning (John 8:44). That is the verdict of Christian-Jews on their fellow Jews…..not the verdict of “rednecks”. The Jews are still unrepentant and people are waking up to their deception and perfidy.

    They will face a day of reckoning which is divine retribution but God will even at this last hour show mercy if there is repentance. They cannot save themselves and never could. They will not “rule the world” unless they humble themselves and accept the messiah. If you are a Christian-Zionist you are doing the Jews no favors….you are an enabler. If there is an anti-Semitic back-lash that is not good but they have brought it largely upon their own heads.

    P.S. The Talmud is derogatory to goyim, Christians and Jesus. The prophet Zechariah warned that the Jews would establish a base for wickedness in Shinar (Babylon) and sure enough that is where they replaced the Torah with the “Traditions of Men” (as Jesus said). Nice try though but people see through Hasbra trolls. See my website and blog for Christian exposition.

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  81. everywhere (USA, France, UK) the Jew is at “internal” war with the people. and they have all the means to change the people: money & Wall Street, Academia, Communication, Art/Hollywood, Executive/Legislative/ Judiciary branches of government, Editing/Press entities, Silicon Valley & the Research Centers, CIA, FBI, NSA, etc., etc. if the Jew is not disarmed the times ahead will be dire for the entire Humanity.

    • Replies: @Jake
  82. Could not agree more with this article. The West should follow Israel’s shinning example in pulling down literal and metaphorical ghetto walls and must stop acting in a nationalistic anti-Semitic way. Shame on gentiles, why can’t they treat the Semites the way Israel treats the Semitic Palestinians? The Jews love their fellow Semites. They love them to death.

    Stop all those nationalistic-expansionist wars in the Middle East driving Muslim refugees from their homelands into Europe. Why can’t everyone be peaceful good neighbors like Israel?

    I know that Israel will lead the way with open borders and full integration in the idealized “open society” with freedom of religion (Judaism) and equality (for Jews). Jerusalem is truly a city on a hill, a light to the nations. All Jews are tolerant and inclusive. And Israel doesn’t want war with Iran. And Epstein loves children. Please, all we ask gentiles is to cease being racial supremacist and cease teaching such things in your “Christian” religion…..you must try much harder to be like the Jews.

    • LOL: geokat62
  83. Jake says:

    Attali’s dream is one that a large number of Victorian era Brit WASP Elites would have embraced. By then, the philo-Semitism of the culture had become 2-headed. One wing was still pro-Jewish (at the direct expense of the vast majority of whites) while the other had become pro-Arabic/Mohammedan. The great WASP Elite internationalist dream was to bring those 2 Semites together.

    This is a religious war. It cannot be won in any way other than whites repenting of rebellion against Christ and Christendom and acting to rebuild Christendom.

    The choices are bow to Christ and Christendom or be the serfs of Jews.

  84. The goal of zionism is a satanic zionist one world government and the zionists use many devises to reach this goal , among which are unlimited immigration, open borders, wars to destroy nations, regime change, infiltration of governments, infiltration of the Christian churches world wide, introducing satanism into the culture of countries, etc., etc..

    Read the Protocols of Zion, the zionist template for taking over the world is right there!

  85. Jake says:
    @nietzsche1510

    How did that even come to pass? What made it possible?

    The answer will tell you the path forward.

    What made it possible? The Reformation, the rebellion against Christ and Christendom, which led – most horrifically – to the formation of WASP culture based on a Judaizing heresy, which built the largest and wealthiest empire in world history and so spread Judaizing across the globe.

    French leaders today are all Anglicized – the world is Anglicized, which means the world has been led to embrace philoSemitism.

    That is a spiritual problem. You can solve it only by repenting and acting to rebuild Christendom.

  86. @The Dark Night

    Well, one hopes it is anti Jewish at least.

    Anti semitic is a term that is NEVER defined which makes it a useful label to scare men into surrendering to the Christ-hating ideology of the Tribe.

    Yet all of their gentile cultural foundation is Jewish: all the books, all the heroes, all the saints, all the ideas

    Put down the crack pipe…

  87. Marcus says:

    TJB: Algerian Jews were huge supporters of French rule (even the OAS) then move to France and viciously attack their host nation’s right to exist (this guy, Derrida, etc.). There are some exceptions tbf, like Zemmour

    • Replies: @buzzwar
  88. Pheasant says:
    @The Dark Night

    ‘These people are all Christians, and at the same time most of them praise and cherish Nietzsche’

    You are deeply confused or disingenuous. Probably the latter.

  89. Pheasant says:
    @The Dark Night

    ‘so how Christian is that?’

    Suddenly you are an expert in Christianity a religion that on other occasions here you have claimed to know next to nothing about? stop tyring to blame and shame. Argue facts.

  90. Talha says:
    @Robjil

    Our MSM touts endless immigration as good. Why are people leaving their homelands? MSM never looks at that aspect.

    Well said. These are the questions that should always be brought up anytime someone brings up the topic of immigration as if it just happens in a vacuum.

    Peace.

  91. Incitatus says:

    “Islam is not a threat to France; it is a component since the eighth century”

    Yes, when Abdul Rahman Al Ghafiqi arrived in France with 25,000 tutors on a pedagogical mission. Charles Martel and Eudes duc d’Aquitaine proved worthy students. ‘Bataille de Poitiers 732’ was really a peaceful cultural exchange, kind of like a modern quiz show, and should be relabeled ‘Émission de quiz de Poitiers 732’.

    “We can imagine, we can dream of Jerusalem as the capital of the planet, which will one day be united around a world-government. It would be a fine place for a world-government.”

    Wouldn’t be the first time:

    “Deus vult!” (“Dieu le veut!”) [“God Wills It!”]
    -Eudes de Châtillon-sur-Marne (Odon de Lagery, pape Urbain II) 1095 Clermont

    Royaume de Jérusalem lasted 88 years. Didn’t turn out too well for most involved, but never mind.

    “And never has the world been better off than when Judaism, Christianity, and Islam worked together to make reason triumph over obscurantism.”

    Surely Saddam Hussein and most Iraqis would agree!

    Belief in peaceful, lawful co-existence and mutual respect aside, Jacques Attali is a font of shameless, self-serving revisionist hogwash.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Alden
  92. Talha says:
    @Robjil

    Scattered colonies of Greeks aren’t what we’re really talking about here. We’re talking this stuff:

    All I’m saying is that calling the Muslim Arabs (because I’m really only discussing the original map posted) the invaders is to assume everyone before them had some god-given right to invade and consider conquered territories permanently “their’s”. In the age of empires, you win and you lose – that’s just how it goes.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    , @Seraphim
  93. Alden says:
    @The Dark Night

    So what’s wrong with anti Semitism?

    It’s a reasonable reaction, like anti deadly diseasism or anti traffic Jamison, or anti pollutionism It’s a good thing Anti semitism is Like public health measures like seat belts clean water sewers and indoor plumbing or SEC consumer protection and financial fraud laws.

    This guy is such a liar. There were very very few Muslims in France during WW2. Most were WW1 veterans who stayed in France. A few were in Marseille. As far as I know French Muslims just confirmed, obeyed German occupation authorities and hunkered down during WW2.

    The French who did most for Jews were the atheist communists and the Catholic clergy. The main thing to remember is that when France surrendered one of the treaty agreements was that French jews be left alone. The thousands of German Belgian Dutch Austrian refugee Jews in France were fair game.

    Liar writes about the Vichy government. FYI ignoramus. The first 2 years there was no German occupation in the Vichy government region of France. When the Germans did occupy the region, the Vichy government abruptly ended and Germans ruled.

    So as per usual, this Jew is just making up lies as he goes along. It’s similar to what American and Israeli jews are now claiming that Auschwitz and other camps in Poland were run by Poles, not the German occupying government.

    • Replies: @the grand wazoo
  94. Talha says:
    @Incitatus

    Yes, when Abdul Rahman Al Ghafiqi arrived in France with 25,000 tutors on a pedagogical mission. Charles Martel and Eudes duc d’Aquitaine proved worthy students. ‘Bataille de Poitiers 732’ was really a peaceful cultural exchange

    LOOOL! You have a way with words, my man!

    Jacques Attali is a font of shameless, self-serving revisionist hogwash.

    Pretty much.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  95. @secondElijah

    You said that Jesus called the Jews Synagogue of Satan. These are the words:

    “I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.” – Revelation 2:9

    He said, he knows about those who say they are Jews but are not! He said, those who twist the Jewish faith and say they are Jews, but are not Jews – they are the synagogue of Satan. You need to misunderstand it completely or intentionally distort the meaning to get to a conclusion that he was speaking about Jews. Not to mention these are not the words of Jesus.

    You also said, Jesus called Jews children of the devil. Have you read this text?

    “And the scribes and Pharisees,” the chapter begins. And then Jesus enters an arguments with the scribes and the Pharisees. He tells them, “You are of your father the devil,” because they don’t believe him. That doesn’t mean that he really considered that those people were the children of the devil, does that? He also said that his father was in Heaven, and Christians concluded that he meant that he really was the son of God. But all the rabbis say “Our father who is in Heaven.”

    You need to know the context of the New Testament, which is Judaism, to understand the teaching of Jesus. He was a one hundred percent Jew.

    The Talmud is derogatory to gentiles? Here is the New Testament. Jesus speaks: “Let the children first be filled: for it is not meet to take the children’s bread, and to cast it unto the dogs.” – Mark 7:27

    • Replies: @secondElijah
  96. @Ris_Eruwaedhiel

    I am saying the Jews settled in ancient Greeks when there were no other European cultures. Are you familiar with the world’s history?

    The Jews saw Babylon and Egypt, when the pyramids were white, and saw the Acropolis when it was new. The Europeans have only seen the ruins. The Jews were there before them.

    This is a fact.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @anonymous
  97. Alden says:
    @Vetran

    So you’re saying that the Vichy France colonial governments of Morocco and Tunisia and the Germans planned to round up and send Algerian and Moroccan jews 2 thousands of miles off to N Europe to the death camps?

    Why not just kill them in Tunisia and Morocco? Why bother shipping them all the way to N Europe.? Why bother with them at all? Did the evil nazis focus on French Jew settlers or native Tunisian Moroccan. Mizrahi jews?

    I’ve read a lot of Zionist propaganda about WW2 Jew trials travails and tribulations. Never heard of nefarious Nazi plans to exterminate Moroccan jews.

    Don’t mean to start a fight at all. It’s just I never heard about it abd find it hard to believe the Nazis and Vichy would send jews all the way to N Europr instead of just killing g then right in Tunisia and Morocco.

    Forgive my cynicism. Even as a teen I wondered how the evil nazis could make soap out of rendered fat from people starved down to 80 pounds.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Vetran
  98. @Kolya Krassotkin

    Yes, Christianity is honest about its moral univeralism. Judaism is moral particularism masquerading as universalism. It’s hard not to resent that once you catch on.

  99. Agent76 says:

    Sep 10, 2019 Judaism, Zionism and Neturei Karta

    Interview with Rabbi Moshe Dov Beck, June 20, 2016, in Monsey NY.

    Nov 28, 2018 Documenting Israel To Be A Fascist Nation

    Before irreparable damage is done by way of financial contributions, public manifestations in Begin’s behalf, and the creation in Palestine of the impression that a large segment of America supports Fascist elements in Israel, the American public must be informed as to the record and objectives of Mr. Begin and his movement.

    http://rinf.com/alt-news/editorials/documenting-israel-to-be-a-fascist-nation/

  100. Alden says:
    @Incitatus

    Wonder what the liar means by obscurantism? Christians and muslims opposed communism. Jews supported it. Muslims and Jews cooperated in the slave trade of Christian slaves to Muslim lands south of the Black and Mediterranean seas. Christians opposed it.

    In modern America and Europe, Christians and Muslim clergy and official bodies oppose pornography which is a Jewish business.

    In matters of homosexuality and transgenderism Christians and Muslims are against, jews crusade for homosexuality and transgenderism.

    Muslims allow polygamy for those who can afford it ( almost no one) Christians and Jewish religions forbid it.

    Some Muslims and Jews have strict dress codes for women. Christians go with the customs of the country and current fashion. Only some Jewish sects require married women to wear wigs. And not just any wig. Dark brown all one length chin length, not an inch shorter or longer coating 5 to 8 K from the Rabbis over priced wig shop.

    I honestly can’t see anything since Islam 620AD where Christians Jews and Muslims have agreed on anything, let alone fighting obscurantism whatever that is. Does it mean occult or hidden? Or mysterious not easy to find?

    Born in Algeria probably in the 1950s. his family kicked out after independence along with the rest of the French Algerians. Welcomed home by the officially secular religiously Catholic French nation.

    Now he’s advocating invasion by the same hostile from whom his family fled.

    He’s kind of the epitome of everything that’s wrong with jews isn’t he?

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  101. nebulafox says:
    @Talha

    Vae victis, IMO. If the Romans and Persians didn’t want to lose their empires, fighting cataclysmic wars in the middle of a bubonic plague driven demographic collapse while Arab society radically transformed wasn’t the wisest idea.

    I like to compare and contrast the Arab conquests to those of the Germanic peoples that led to the downfall of the Western Roman Empire a couple of centuries earlier. It’s a fun exercise in late antiquity. Both races served the Roman empire as hired guns for centuries before the conquests, and both were, in many areas (not uniformly, though), changed into something approximating the Chinese “cooked” barbarian by the time of late antiquity through contact with Rome, whether in trade or war.

    The main difference is that the Goths and Vandals and Franks became Romanized: leading to Italy and Spain and France becoming Latin rather than Germanic countries. The former Romans of Syria, Palestine, and Egypt became Arabized, by contrast. In the history of “wild people” conquests, the former is normally what happens, because the conquered have the more advanced culture and the longer history of statehood. In the case of the Germans, they’d largely adopted the religion of the conquered, whether after the conquests wholesale-the Franks-or already adopting it beforehand, if in a “heretical” form for the first few centuries, as with the Goths. As a more extreme example, the Mongols conquered much of the world, but few-especially in the monotheistic world-could relate to their primitive worship of the sky god by the Middle Ages. That led directly to guys like Timurlane cropping up later on because the Mongols were absorbed.

    The Arabs are the exception to the rule, then, in that the conquered picked up their identity in the long run rather than vice versa. Islam was a distinct enough theological system so that the initial conquerors could leave their imprint without being culturally overwhelmed, but it was also familiar enough for the conquered peoples-at least in the former Romans lands-to pick up, leading to eventual ethnic as well as religious assimilation.

    Toward the east, it was a different dynamic: the Zoroastrians converted, too, but they remained decidedly, thoroughly Persian…

  102. Alden says:
    @The Dark Night

    Stone hedge and some of the other European monuments are a lot older than the pyramids. Celts used a mechanical reaper 3,500 years ago. It disappeared during the Roman occupation and didn’t appear again till the 1840s in the American state of Illinois. Oldest human settlement in The world is the one in the Orkney islands of Scotland. It’s much older than the ones in what’s now Turkey abd India

    Earliest human civilization was Whites in Ukraine during the ice age before the ending of the ice age when the Mediterranean and Black seas were formed

    Why do I even bother refuting this anti White Jew supremacist ?

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  103. neutral says:
    @The Dark Night

    People from the middle east are not considered white, using American laws (because jews wanted to be white) does not change this basic fact.

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  104. nebulafox says:
    @Robjil

    As far as France: Marseilles was a Greek founded town. I’m studying the pre-Greco/Roman War period right now, and it is amazing what great travelers the Greeks were.

    As for Anatolia, it remained a Greek-dominated place until well into the Middle Ages. Manzikert itself was no Adrianople or Yarmouk style slaughter for the Roman army in terms of casualty rates. What really doomed Byzantium was what happened *after* Manzikert. If Alp Arslan was gambling that letting Diogenes go back unmolested would cause far more grief to Rome-civil war time!-than killing him, it was a stroke of Machiavellian genius.

    But in the end, the Romans were just too arrogant to grasp that the Turks really could create their own consolidated, lasting state while they fought their civil wars and dealt with the Normans… the Turks might have been a steppe people, but they were one fully steeped in Persianate Islam, so they were well past the “collapse on its own” stage. Bulgaria and its Christianization should have taught them this.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Talha
  105. Alden says:
    @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    Dark Knight might not be a Jew. Probably a shabbat goy who worked writing all his nonsense on Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur when jews are supposed to not work, fast, pray and go to services

    DK probably eats bacon and eggs for breakfast a cheeseburger for lunch, and shrimp or crab for dinner. Some militant Jewish defender.

  106. Talha says:
    @nebulafox

    Vae victis, IMO.

    Basically. In that age, there were no international rules of conduct. If you had the means, you expanded or at least kept others from expanding on you. If you didn’t, well too bad.

    The Arabs are the exception to the rule, then, in that the conquered picked up their identity in the long run rather than vice versa.

    Yes, this definitely was a unique phenomenon – I remember someone calling it “the greatest plot twist in history”. Even when the Mongols rolled through the Muslim lands later (as you mentioned), they eventually got absorbed into Islam (or Christianity) and influenced heavily by Persian culture.

    but it was also familiar enough for the conquered peoples-at least in the former Romans lands-to pick up

    Indeed. If you read the works about first contact, you realize many Christians did not see it as a completely foreign religion, rather many called it an Ishmaelite heresy. Some called them Hagarenes (descendants of Hagar) – so it was not something as foreign as, say, Buddhism or Animism.

    This also has some parallels with the Germanic takeover of Rome – in that someone like King Alaric was an Arian (another Christian heresy, as you pointed out). But, as you said, they were more influenced by the religion of Rome.

    the Zoroastrians converted, too, but they remained decidedly, thoroughly Persian…

    Yup and actually took over much of the authority of the religion – especially after the Abbasid revolt (that was backed by Persian Mawali) against Ummayyad Arab supremacism.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Alden
    , @nebulafox
  107. Sid00 says:

    Stopped reading at “….wholly irrational hatred of the Jews”

  108. Wally says:
    @The Dark Night

    said:
    “Yes, this new kind of nationalism is antisemitic.”

    So was all this below a “new kind of nationalism”?

    Complete list of Jewish Expulsions / Jews expelled from over 1,000 places in history
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12596

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  109. melpol says:

    Active Testosterone in non-whites is causing a social problem in European or Western cultures. Rational laws are too strict for enforcement. Relaxation of the laws will be necessary.

    • Replies: @Alden
  110. Alden says:
    @melpol

    Pls explain your incoherent statements that mean nothing. What do you mean by that string of words?

    • Replies: @melpol
  111. “The Zionists are playing this as truly an all-or-nothing exercise…”
    Dr Alan Sabrosky, former Director of Studies at the US Army War College

    While Dr. Sabrosky was talking about the 9/11 building demolitions, his point applies to all their machinations.

    • Agree: Robjil
  112. Alden says:
    @nebulafox

    Check the timeline. The Roman Empire ended in the late 400s AD. The Turks didn’t get to Europe and Anatolia till about 1100AD. A 500 year gap. Didn’t get to Greece and the Balkans for another couple hundred years.

    The Romans and Turks never encountered each other as the Turks were about 2,000 miles east of the easternmost outposts of the Roman Empire.

    Unless by Roman you mean medieval Europe Greece, Armenia Central Asia east of the Black Sea.

    Persia never ever ever succumbed to the Turks. It was the one and only country that shared a border with Turkey that was never conquered by the Turks. Persians despised and still despise Turks as primitive barbarian nomads. Different sects of Islam that despised each other as much as 1500s Calvinists and Catholics did

    Greco Roman period occurred when the Turks were thousands of miles away in Central Asia.

    What kind of history are you reading ? Think I better get off this article. Of all the UNZ threads I’ve ever read, this one has the most historically wrong comments. Greco Roman wars with Turks when the eras were hundreds of years and thousands of miles apart.

    Marseille was founded by Greeks. Only thing correct in your post.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    , @Talha
  113. @Robjil

    If MSM gets their “wish”, then all Africa, Latin America, and poorer parts of Asia would be empty of people.

    Everyone would be in the western world or North East Asia.

    Indeed. Massive population transfers from the third world to the first are planned, with “climate change refugees” as the excuse, in the pursuit of endless GDP growth to further and faster enrich the world’s top 0.0001 per cent. White people will be the cash cows slaving to put welfare in the pockets of newcomers and their descendants, who will be able to consume far more than had they stayed in their third world homelands.

  114. Alden says:
    @Talha

    Best you never learn what Persians think now and have always thought of Arabs.

    • Replies: @Talha
  115. Whitewolf says:
    @The Dark Night

    So it was Christians directing all those wars? Suddenly Judaism which apparently Europe was founded on is nowhere to be seen. You say European culture is Jewish but the wars are Christian. I’m finding it hard to take you seriously.

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  116. Alden says:
    @Talha

    There’s still a huge, important and highly respected Zoroastrian community in Persia even under the extreme Islamist government of the last 40 years.

    • Replies: @Talha
  117. melpol says:
    @Alden

    There is evidence that testosterone levels are higher in individuals with aggressive behavior, such as prisoners who have committed violent crimes. … Testosterone activates the subcortical areas of the brain to produce aggression, while cortisol and serotonin act antagonistically with testosterone to reduce its effects

  118. Talha says:
    @nebulafox

    the Romans were just too arrogant to grasp that the Turks really could create their own consolidated, lasting state

    They also had horrible policies in that area (especially in the borderlands) – part of those policies had to do with pissing off non-Chalcedonian Christians. A significant part of the Byzantine forces at Manzikert (who didn’t actually even engage) were Western European (Latin) mercenaries. There were Armenians cooperating on raids with Seljuks into Byzantine territory – yes, it was that bad!

    Prof. David Nicolle wrote and excellent book on how exactly Anatolia was lost:

    For a quick read, I suggest this one:
    “The annexation of Armenia was a strategic disaster for the Byzantines…. The Armenian historian, Vardapet Aristakes Lastivertc’i relates with copious tears, ‘In these days Byzantine armies entered the land of Armenia four times in succession until they had rendered the whole country uninhabited through sword, fire, and captive taking.’…Nor could the Byzantines rely on the Armenians for support. One of Constantine’s first acts after the fall of Ani was to instigate a purge of the Monophysite clergy of Armenian Church. Fleeing war and persecution, a mass exodus began, including the Armenian troops the Byzantines relied on to garrison the border fortresses. Many now sought their fortune elsewhere, ‘some in Persia, some in Greece, some in Georgia.'[11] Some Armenian troops joined the Seljuk bands that now began raiding across the Armenian border.”
    http://deremilitari.org/2013/09/the-battle-of-manzikert-military-disaster-or-political-failure/

    the Turks might have been a steppe people, but they were one fully steeped in Persianate Islam, so they were well past the “collapse on its own” stage.

    Bing-frickin’-O!

    Peace.

  119. Corvinus says:
    @silviosilver

    “Yes, Christianity is honest about its moral univeralism. Judaism is moral particularism masquerading as universalism. It’s hard not to resent that once you catch on.”

    Wow, just wow. We can cut right through your confirmation bias with a knife. It certainly benefits you creating a false premise by which any and all religious doctrine arguments are one sided.

  120. Durocher, you’re just scribbling again. What are you actually doing in France? Do you know Marine LePen? Are you talking to any of the Yellow Vest protesters?

    It is time for the French to form a political party where its platform is deporting black/Asian/Jews/Muslims from France.

  121. nebulafox says:
    @Talha

    >Basically. In that age, there were no international rules of conduct. If you had the means, you expanded or at least kept others from expanding on you. If you didn’t, well too bad.

    More than there were previously, though, when it came to dealing with conquered peoples. Christianity and Islam were products of an age that had advanced enough to have a notion of basic human rights, if a rudimentary one, and it showed. The old-school pagan Romans made a desert and called it peace. Then there was an even older, more tribal age, that showed by the Iliad or the Old Testament, where the conquered were simply exterminated wholesale.

    (I looked at some of the Assyrian war reliefs: they were up to some… exceedingly ugly stuff, even by the standards of the time. These guys didn’t just genocide, rape, torture, etc-they openly bragged about it in graphic detail.)

    >Indeed. If you read the works about first contact, you realize many Christians did not see it as a completely foreign religion, rather many called it an Ishmaelite heresy. Some called them Hagarenes (descendants of Hagar) – so it was not something as foreign as, say, Buddhism or Animism.

    Agreed.

    I think the Arabs had an additional advantage: they were a very familiar sight in the Roman East, well before the conquests, to a greater extent than the Germans who were always viewed as something fundamentally alien no matter how much they fought in the legions. The Arabs by contrast, were not “alien” to the locals of Syria. Arabs traded with them regularly, they fought in the Roman army, they became citizens. They wore the same clothes, they ate the same food. There were even Roman emperors of Arab extraction. Combine that with obeying monotheistic laws that the conquered Romans were familiar with, and the transition went as smoothly as things could reasonably go for a regime change of this scale.

    The really interesting part of the story is not that: it is why, if that’s true, the Arabs didn’t blend in to the conquered populace, given their overwhelming demographic inferiority. It would seem as though Islam-combined with the garrison town policy-is the answer to that one.

    >Yup and actually took over much of the authority of the religion – especially after the Abbasid revolt (that was backed by Persian Mawali) against Ummayyad Arab supremacism.

    Exactly. The mawali scholars would define Islam’s trajectory far more than the old Syro-Arab military elite, IMO. As you mentioned, the Turks and Mongols picked up a particularly Persian form of Islam, which meant that later conquest dynasties-the Mughals being a particularly prominent example-would show that heritage.

    On a deeper level, the greater Umayyad clan had deep ties to Byzantium and its world, going back to before the time of Muhammad when they made their fortune through trade with Rome. The new elites lacked any sort of residual tie to that world. So they saw little point in seriously trying to absorb the impoverished-and fanatical-residents of Anatolia when they could head east toward where the real opportunities for wealth and conversion were: India, China, Indonesia. If we look at why Europe isn’t natively Islamic and why much of the subcontinent is, that’s a big part of it.

    (The Umayyad rump state in Spain lacked the resources to do anything other than defend what it already had on the peninsula, from what I recall. Getting help from the Abbasids was a non-starter as anybody familiar with the ultimate fate of the Umayyad family after their downfall should understand-that, and only a century later, and the greater caliphate was already beginning to disintegrate into its constituent parts.)

    • Replies: @Talha
  122. @Alden

    Even if what you have said was true it wouldn’t matter, because all of those are dead cultures. Forgotten and lost. I am talking about those who are alive. Understand the difference.

    • Replies: @Alden
  123. Talha says:
    @Alden

    Well, it certainly depends on which Persians you ask.

    There are some that are still butt-hurt about losing a thousands of years old empire to “a bunch of upstart Arabs”. Can’t do much about this.

    And there are some that realize that Persia’s influence across the world after Islam far exceeds her regional influence before it; the books of Imam Ghazali (ra) – a Persian – are read from Senegal to Malaysia, the school of jurisprudence of Imam Abu Hanifah (ra) – also a Persian – has the largest following in the Muslim world. I won’t go into her contributions to fields like science, astronomy, medicine after Islam quashed the rivalry between her and the Greco-Roman world by putting them both in time out.

    Persia and Greece were rival civilizations for many centuries – always trying to show up the other, burning each other’s cities down. The Persians only seriously started really looking into and building off of Greek works after the Greeks were no longer a civilizational threat and the works had been translated into Arabic. Would this have happened if the dreams and self-pride of both empires hadn’t first died gasping on the field of battle at the hands of lightly-armed and outnumbered Arabs? I don’t know, but I doubt it – sometimes the best thing that can happen to you in life is a good a**-kicking.

    Right now, the celebration of Arbaeen is about to happen. Millions of Persians will be trekking on foot to Iraq to visit the city of Karbala in Iraq where a man named Husayn ibn Ali (ra) – the Arab son of an Arab – was killed in battle.

    So yeah – depends on which Persians you ask.

    Peace.

  124. @anon

    Muslim’s support for Hitler was much less than the organized Christian religious support from Vatican to nonVatican .

    If you had a brain you’d eat it

  125. @Kolya Krassotkin

    A Christian is told “Love your neighbor as yourself” is to extend to even those outside the faith. Wow!

    Really?

    This is why the Christians exterminated all those who dared to disagree with them, on this point perhaps. How about the Cathars, the Bogomils? Were they not neighbours? And what about the Muslims, who were expelled from Spain? Were they not neighbours “outside the faith” as well as the Jews, who were expelled alongside with them? What about all the Crusades? And the Native Americans? And the Africans, sold to slavery? Love your neighbour?

    Pure satanism.

  126. Talha says:
    @Alden

    Zoroastrian community in Persia

    No doubt, they’re still around there and in parts of Iraq and Turkey as well – but not a whole lot.

    I wonder if they still use their open sky-burial facilities?

    https://slate.com/human-interest/2014/10/towers-of-silence-in-yazd-a-zoroastrian-sky-burial-site.html

    Apparently lack of vultures is an issue…who knew…maybe due to lack of being able to feed on human carcasses in the facilities? Hmmmm…

    I guess that’s maybe another thing that can be blamed on Muslims:
    “That’s it folks, I’m Baab Abu-Barker, reminding you to help control the vulture population by burying your relatives underground.”

    Peace.

    • LOL: AnonStarter
    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  127. nebulafox says:
    @silviosilver

    The Jews had their old-school martial nature-shown best in the Old Testament-beaten out of them when the Romans responded to their final uprising with a policy of cultural extermination. The Judaism that emerged from antiquity was almost a different religion from the one that went in, in many fundamental ways.

    One thing that did not change, though, is the essential non-universal nature of Judaism. In this way, it could not be more different from the other Abrahamic religions.

  128. nebulafox says:
    @Alden

    >The Roman Empire ended in the late 400s AD. The Turks didn’t get to Europe and Anatolia till about 1100AD. A 500 year gap. Didn’t get to Greece and the Balkans for another couple hundred years. The Romans and Turks never encountered each other as the Turks were about 2,000 miles east of the easternmost outposts of the Roman Empire.

    The last Roman Emperor was the man who died in the only proper way for a true leader witnessing the end: fighting at the head of his men and dying in action, in the last stand of 1453 as New Rome finally fell. Westerners can claim what they will about the scared teenage boy who was pathetically pensioned off, or the illiterate Frank. 🙂

    >Persia never ever ever succumbed to the Turks. It was the one and only country that shared a border with Turkey that was never conquered by the Turks.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seljuq_dynasty#/media/File:Seljuk_Empire_locator_map.svg

    The Turks came from Central Asia before they moved into Anatolia.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    , @Alden
    , @Alden
  129. @Whitewolf

    Were the Jews waging all those wars? Of course it was Christian. The Christian governments of the Christian countries, with their Christian politicians, elected by their Christian people. You overestimate the power of the Jews, I think. And if the things were indeed as bad as you say, then I would have to reply that your people deserve all this. But you are wrong, both in respect to the influence the Jews have and to the alleged obedience of the Christians, who have always been the most conquering and cruel of all religions. Just compare the history of Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism to the Christian history. You will never find as much bloodshed and terror anywhere else as in the Christendom.

    • Replies: @Robjil
  130. @Wally

    No that was the old one. This new one is more secular.

    • Replies: @wally
  131. Talha says:
    @Alden

    It was the one and only country that shared a border with Turkey that was never conquered by the Turks.

    You’re kidding, right? You do know that Turkey is not the origin place of Turkic people, right?

    The Ghaznavids were mamluk Turks that took over Persia in the tenth century. Even later “Persian” dynasties like the Qajars were of Turkmen origin. The Turks have rolled in through Persia many times, but they have always been Persianized. Shah Ismail – the founder of the hugely important Safavid Empire – was actually of mixed Kurdish and a motley of Caucasian heritage and simply spoke Persian.

    Just saying…

    Peace.

  132. nebulafox says:
    @nebulafox

    I’m partially being facetious in this post: I consider the real breaking point between classical antiquity and the Middle Ages to be the rise of Islam. Justinian’s Byzantium was still a demonstrably late antiquity place. After the Yarmouk, though, while Byzantium would survive, it would really lose the “imperial” character. That could not economically sustain itself without Syria and Egypt, always the richest provinces of the empire even during the Pax Romana. But more importantly, the cultural connection was truly disrupted: leading to the more recognizably medieval Byzantine state, focused on survival and consolidation around Anatolia and Greece. And later during the Macedonian recovery, being a player in a multipolar world, leading to the (in)famous Byzantine diplomacy.

    You could argue, though, that the connection with the classical Rome of Augustus ended with the Crisis of the Third Century, so these distinctions really reveal more about the person talking than anything else.

    All that being said, though, a few crucial leftovers-such as the imperial office being an *office*-would survive, the classical Hellenistic tradition from which all Western thought stems would remain alive and well in Constantinople where it was lost for many centuries in the West, and the Byzantines always referred to themselves as Romans. Legally-and what were the Romans if not scrupulous legalists?-they were: it was an unbroken chain of succession. It’s noteworthy that as far as the Islamic World was concerned, too, the Byzantines were always referred to as simply being as Romans, with no further distinction needed.

  133. [[Attali equates the fight for national and popular sovereignty .. with.. the .. hatred of the Jews]]

    COMMENT: But he excludes JEWISH popular sovereignty! The modern state of Israel is based on it.

    This is just more self-fulfilling prophecy of Tanakh verses like:
    Jeremiah: 30: 11. For I am with you, says the Lord, to save you;
    👉though I make a full end of all nations where I have scattered you, yet I will not make a full end of you;

    Jeremiah: 46:28. Do not fear, O my servant Jacob, says the Lord; for I am with you;
    👉for I will make a full end of all the nations where I have driven you; but I will not make a full end of you..

    Genesis 12:2
    👉I will make of you a great nation.

  134. wally says:
    @The Dark Night

    – Please define anti-semitism for us.

    – Also, please explain specifically why Jews have been tossed out of so many places throughout history.

  135. @Talha

    /it simply presents a feedback loop/

    Yes, hence my original reference to “fundamentally zionist think tanks.”

    /you can tell the difference between someone who is cautiously guarded about what they say and someone who is an over-the-top hyper-nationalist/

    Agreed, though I’m not certain if, by “hyper-nationalists,” you’re including every Saudi that fits the definition of “neo-Salafi” or not. Some are far more subtle in their outlook than others.

    Mosques owned by the North American Islamic Trust, a holding company of the Islamic Society of North America, depend on Saudi money to keep their gears in motion. The leadership does a good job of regularly interfering with small groups making dhikr and raising their hands for du’a after ritual prayer if that prayer happens to be made outside of the mosque’s rigidly prescribed times.

    Perhaps this explains why they can’t depend on local donations.

    • Replies: @Talha
  136. @Talha

    If I’m not mistaken, the image is of the Tower of Silence, just outside Yazd, the center of Zoroastrianism in Iran.
    No, Persians / Iranians / Zoroastrians do not still use open-sky burial facilities — not at Yazd, anyway.
    Many years ago health concerns required that that tradition come to an end.

    Smaller buildings around the base of the Tower are kinds of hospice: persons approaching death are taken to such a building by a family member who cares for him/her there until death.

    A conventional Iranian-style cemetery occupies a large area beyond the ring of hospice shelters. Deceased are buried in ground in/under a large stone structure — the size of the grave, in addition to a headstone — marks the grave.

    The Tower of Silence is not very far from the center of Yazd and the Zoroastrian temple where an eternal fire has been maintained for over 1500 years.


    vaguely related: A few days ago someone mentioned “Forgotten Odyssey,” a DVD recording the flight of refugees from Poland after the dual-invasion of Germans and Russians. Those refugees crossed snow-covered terrain and the Caspian Sea and found shelter in Iran.
    As the DVD explains, the British occupied Iran at the time and tended to the refugees: they over-fed them, and many died as a result of ill-advised care after their rescue.
    The Iranian government still maintains a cemetery for those Poles who fled to Iran in the early days of WWII and who subsequently died.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Kolya Krassotkin
  137. The Jews were expelled from Christian countries. So ask the priest, he knows it better. Ask your pastor. He will surely find some time for his flock to explain why the good Christians expelled millions of people from their homes so many times. Don’t forget to ask him about the Muslims, while you are on that topic.

    • Replies: @Nalca
  138. Robjil says:
    @The Dark Night

    Since the FED of 12/23/1913 the western world has been Jewish controlled.

    Only a few people at top are “leaders”. These “leaders” have a Jewish agenda.

    WWI was to get the Balfour Declaration.

    WWII was to get Israel.

    WWIII- Seven Nations to Destroy for the nine eleven false flag is on going. They thought it would be five years like the first two. It is not working out that way.

    Aldous Huxley talked about Darwin grandson’s book “The next million years” in his 1962 Berkeley speech. In this book, humans are considered a wild species. I first thought Huxley was talking about Charles Darwin, his grandfather. I looked up the book “The next million years”. It was written by Charles Galton Darwin, his grandson, in 1952.

    Grandson Darwin believes that human species are wild and led by ” leaders”. Here is a review of Charles Galton Darwin’s viewpoint.

    Henry Makow gives a review of this book. He considers the book a NWO blueprint.

    https://www.henrymakow.com/was_darwin_an_instrument_of_th.html

    A book, “The Next Million Years” by Darwin’s grandson, Charles Galton Darwin (1887-1962) is supposed to be a NWO blueprint.
    You can download it from scribd (http://www.scribd.com/doc/23619812/The-Next-Million-Years-by-Charles-Galton-Darwin-1953).
    Charles Galton Darwin says that “every civilization has really been a form of slavery for the people.”
    In his view, this is the “natural order”, and of course ” the leaders” are trained in the technique of enslaving people since birth.
    They’re brought up listening to a different version of reality than the rest of the population. They’re told that in the realities of life, the predators should be at the top of the “natural order”. They’re predators, of course, because they’re such hypocrites, liars, deceivers, and unscrupulous cheats. As good predators, they can’t tell the people how they’re really feeding off them, or manipulating them for different ends, “because those with the low IQ’s, you know the little people at the bottom of the pile, have to be kept in the dark.”

    It odd that we hear Hasbaras on this site often talk of high IQs as being the reason that Israel firsters rule much of the world these days. This is also what Charles G. Darwin thinks how our “leaders”rule us.

    In most science fiction books or films, aliens from another planet commonly ask to speak to the “leaders” of the humans. Our Leaders MSM gives us this clue that Leaders rule us with this insight.

    In his book, he mentions that an alien species such as Aliens from another planet are needed to tame our Leaders. Free Speech is an alien concept to our Leaders. It would be the best “Alien” way to tame them and free our planet.

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  139. buzzwar says:

    “I am not aware of Muslims having been particularly friendly to the Jews during this period (the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem notoriously supported Hitler and Bosnian Muslims joined the Waffen-SS)”.
    About Muslims helping Jews during the vichy government, Attali was clearly alluding to the “role played by Muslim Algerians in supporting and protecting their parents, during the horrible days of triumphant anti-Semitism in France proper…...
    One wonders why Guillaume Durocher refers to the mufti of Jerusalem as he was not an Algerian but a Palestinian . He probably did not help the Jews because in Palestine at that time there was no hunt for the Jews. In France , however, it is a well known fact that the Rector of the Paris Mosque (Recteur de la mosquée de Paris), whose name was Si Kaddour Benghabrit, saved hundreds of Jews by providing them with muslim administrative certificates issued to them by the staff of the mosque in order that they can escape arrest and deportation.

    • Replies: @Marcus
  140. Talha says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Thanks for the info S2C, much appreciated.

    Many years ago health concerns required that that tradition come to an end.

    Hmmm…I do wonder what those would be? Perhaps birds potentially getting infected by some cross-over human virus and then spreading it?

    Peace.

  141. renfro says:
    @The Dark Night

    There is a theological concept in Kabbalah, that discriminates between souls of the Jews and souls of gentiles, according to which souls of the Jews come from the pure spheres and souls of gentiles come from the impure spheres, but this doesn’t mean that the Jews hate gentiles or think that gentiles are less human.

    Isnt that like saying ‘We don’t hate pigs but they have no souls……LOL

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  142. Talha says:
    @AnonStarter

    I knew about NAIT, didn’t know about the Saudi angle.

    The leadership does a good job of regularly interfering with small groups making dhikr and raising their hands for du’a after ritual prayer if that prayer happens to be made outside of the mosque’s rigidly prescribed times.

    Tell me about it.

    Interestingly, I recently asked a question on Twitter among the Muslims I know regarding whether Saudi Arabia and her policies are a net positive for Islam and the Ummah or a net negative. Just a simple question and I didn’t lead them in any direction. The results I got were around 125 votes:

    Net positive – 13%
    Net negative – 70%
    It evens out – 17%

    Sound about right to you as far as your experience with other Muslims?

    Wa salaam.

    • Replies: @AnonStarter
  143. Incitatus says:
    @Talha

    Talha,

    Don’t have as much time as I’d like for UR, but glad you’re still posting.

    Jacques Attali is a font of shameless, self-serving revisionist hogwash.
    “Pretty much.”

    Amazing it’s so cravingly blatant. As if someone with intellectual tourettes [PC disclaimer – such are fully entitled to whatever, etc. etc. – just not in my back yard, please] should be worshiped as a Periclean orator as he sputters away.

    Stay well, Talha.

    • Replies: @Talha
  144. Nalca says:
    @The Dark Night

    Why would they know ? It’s was the kings who expelled Jews, not the Christian Church. In fact, the Church often protected the expelled jews.

    As for why they were expelled, it was often for :
    – Usury
    – Ruthless exploitation of the peasants.
    – Insult against the Christian religion and Christians (In a Christian country of course)
    – Sacrifice of peasant’s children.

    People did not take this kindly in the middle age and often lynched Jews for that.

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  145. Talha says:
    @nebulafox

    These guys didn’t just genocide, rape, torture, etc-they openly bragged about it in graphic detail.

    Absolutely. The Arabs were actually quite capable of being extremely brutal. Had they not been tempered by Islamic rules of conduct in war, it could easily have been a bloodbath the likes of what came with the Mongols. As an example of what the pagan Arabs could do with the vanquished; the Lakhmid king, Mundhir the Third, had made an extensive campaign into Syria a century before (on behalf of the Persians). He decimated entire towns and came back with 400 nuns which he burnt in offering to al-Uzza. Not pretty.

    There were even Roman emperors of Arab extraction.

    This I did not know.

    One other thing is that – though the Greco-Romans and their language ruled the area – many of the locals like Assyrians and such shared even close language ties to the Arabs.

    and the transition went as smoothly as things could reasonably go for a regime change of this scale.

    That was actually the real genius in the takeover by the Rashidun. It really was a remarkable grasp of what they had ventured upon and how huge of an undertaking it was to inherit these two massive empires and recognize their own shortcomings and deficiencies. They kept the original administrations going even under the original structures and bureaucracies and original languages. It also helped that the vast majority of cities – especially very large ones – were conquered without much fanfare or destruction and by negotiated surrender so the population was not so sore about being defeated. It helped also that the leaner new management could actually offer overall tax relief that set them apart from the bloated previous empires.

    It would seem as though Islam-combined with the garrison town policy-is the answer to that one.

    Agreed.

    The mawali scholars would define Islam’s trajectory far more than the old Syro-Arab military elite, IMO.

    Yup – most people in the West don’t realize this. For instance, except for a couple, the majority of our canonical hadith books were all done by Persian (or Persianate) Muslims.

    If we look at why Europe isn’t natively Islamic and why much of the subcontinent is, that’s a big part of it.

    Definitely. I know one of my main ancestors is a Persian Sufi-scholar from the Kerman province in Iran who settled into northern India and started preaching. His tomb is the center of a town in Uttar Pradesh.

    and the greater caliphate was already beginning to disintegrate into its constituent parts.

    Yeah, the Abbasids were really caliphs in-name-only once the fractures started occurring about a century or more after their heyday. Oh well, nothing lasts forever.

    It’s been a pleasure reading your insights.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  146. buzzwar says:
    @Marcus

    The Jews not only supported the OAS but the OAS itself is a creation of Mossad.

    • Replies: @Marcus
  147. @Talha

    /I knew about NAIT, didn’t know about the Saudi angle./

    That’s how it was for many years. ISNA grew out of the MSA, which, while originally independent, was nurtured by Saudi money for quite some time.

    Not sure how much it’s changed since I last dealt with an ISNA-based community, though the leadership appears highly sensitive to any manifestations of Islam it likely perceives as “deviant.” I don’t argue that they have no right to run their mosques as they please, but such sensitivity won’t keep many serious Muslims in their fold, which is probably the intention anyways.

    /Sound about right to you as far as your experience with other Muslims?/

    Yes.

    Muslim Americans are better off establishing more independent, localized mosques and madrasas to more immediately and effectively meet the needs of the respective communities they serve. I left the high-profile NAIT mosques years ago and I’ve never found a reason to return.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Abdullah
  148. Talha says:
    @Incitatus

    Amazing it’s so cravingly blatant.

    I wonder if it’s such because so much of the population is so ignorant about basic history that they think they can pull it off.

    I remember once when I traveled through Switzerland for a connecting flight and ended up staying overnight at a hotel. I tried to strike up a conversation with the person behind the counter about Swiss history and mentioned some things I knew about it and the person spoke English well, but the response was basically; sorry, but I don’t really know much about Swiss history.

    I wonder how many French people know about certain basic things in their history so that they can simply dismiss this for the propaganda that it is?

    I know stuff is being proposed in Sweden:
    “The National Agency for Education: Eliminate antiquity from teaching”
    https://www.svd.se/skolverket-stryk-antiken-ur-historieundervisningen

    Stay well, Talha.

    You too, bro. And keep posting.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  149. @Alden

    So what’s wrong with anti Semitism?
    Nothing is wrong with it. It serves the jews well, as they themselves say. If it didn’t exist they would have to cereate it.
    The quesrtion all jews should be asking the mirror, but never do, is: Why have ‘we’ jews been expelled over 120 times from so many different nations?
    It is the old addage where: a man puts on a shirt he believes is white, and during his day all he meet say: “that’s a very nice blue shirt you’re wearing.” Guess what. The shirt is blue.

  150. Marcus says:
    @buzzwar

    Do you have any sources for this? Israel was in its infancy at the time, seems unlikely they’d be involved in a conflict that didn’t directly impact them

    • Replies: @buzzwar
  151. “… Jacques Attali has become the poster child for the anti-national globalist…”

    Perhaps a more traditional expression which says more or less the same thing is “the self-hating Jew”.

  152. Marcus says:
    @buzzwar

    The huge majority of Muslims who fought in WW2 did so for the Allies; many may have sympathized with the Axis, but those didn’t have much impact on the war. The British Indian army was very disproportionately Moslem

  153. @renfro

    Pigs have a soul. All beings have a soul.

    Judaism is a gnostic teaching which sees a difference in kinds of soul same as other gnostic teachings. One school of Hindu religion is the same in respect to this. Their approach is arguable and perhaps mistaken but explains a lot of questions if you take it as read. They also may be right about it.

    We don’t know.

  154. Talha says:
    @AnonStarter

    Yeah – I remember they were big in the 1990’s. First time I even heard about them was via an African American imam who warned us about avoiding taking any money from them and always make sure the money was raised locally. It is better to have a modest masjid but be independent than be at the behest of some outside (possibly foreign) organization while having a grand and extravagant one. I’ve noticed they have less clout in certain demographics than others – the Indo-Pak-Bengali crowd (at least around Illinois) seems to be free from their interference.

    Muslim Americans are better off establishing more independent, localized mosques and madrasas to more immediately and effectively meet the needs of the respective communities they serve.

    Absolutely. I’m part of the administration of our local masjid which we raised the money for without outside interference (alhamdulillah) and no loans either!!!

    Wa salaam.

  155. @Robjil

    Wow!

    You are very intelligent. I think you have nothing to worry about. You have already figured them out, and now you only need to read more Darwin and together with Henry Makow you will surely find a solution to this terrible problem.

    Good luck!

  156. Incitatus says:
    @Alden

    Hello Alden,

    “Wonder what the liar means by obscurantism?”

    Textbook definition: “the practice of deliberately preventing the facts or full details of something from becoming known”, a rather mild rebuke for a screamingly inventive ‘revisionist’ (fabricator) like Jacques Attali. One wonders if he’s eating too many mushrooms, or has an organic imbalance (strange things can thus happen).

    Yet, I agree with Durocher that his agenda is shamelessly explicable, little to do with history, France, Islam, or Christianity.

    “In matters of homosexuality and transgenderism Christians and Muslims are against, jews crusade for homosexuality and transgenderism.”

    No expert, but it seems the Episcopal Church (‘Henry VIII Tudor’s ‘try-try-again marriage’ legacy) flirts with both, even in the pulpit, but could be wrong (not Episcopalian). Have to admit I don’t really care – it’s their business. Hate the sin (if there is one), not the sinner.

    “Some Muslims and Jews have strict dress codes for women. Christians go with the customs of the country and current fashion. Only some Jewish sects require married women to wear wigs. And not just any wig. Dark brown all one length chin length, not an inch shorter or longer coating 5 to 8 K from the Rabbis over priced wig shop.”

    Didn’t know about Jewish wigs – must be a profitable concession. Must tell you, at my age, I could use a wig, and am tempted to give them a call. Any suggestions?

    Know directly (as a former resident) about modest dress in KSA. They rather overdid it with black abayas (especially with the matching menacing hood with eye slits) in 125° heat, but that’s only my opinion. So attired, they’re actually quite intimidating. One is well advised to look around for their minders (male relatives), best not to have a conversation. The sacred harem. Routinely toasted by ME sun. Go figure!

    Fly from Riyadh to Cyprus or the Greek Islands 1970s-1990s and, bingo, topless beaches occupied by British air hostesses! Male teenage heaven in the first degree; a Vonnegut planetary time-warp in all others. God bless Hellenes! And British Air Hostesses! And, for what it’s worth, Saudis!

    To be serious, I vote for civil, respectful modesty (both sexes) eschew the extremes. I think it’s called self-respect, but I could be wrong.

    “Now he’s advocating invasion by the same hostile from whom his family fled.”

    Jacques Attali is a Pied-Noir? Guess I missed that, but (God-bless wikapedia) you’re right. Very interesting.

    “He’s kind of the epitome of everything that’s wrong with jews isn’t he?”

    Don’t have an “epitome” opinion for any people, nationality, religion. Sorry.

    Individuals (actions, opinions, articles, etc.) are another matter. We should each be held to our own account.

    In this case Jacques Attali seems to be manufacturing bogus history for cheap political (self-interested) objectives?

    There’s no excuse for that.

  157. @Nalca

    What a deep perspective!

    Please keep on posting your insightful comments and keep on educating me.

  158. @neutral

    No one cares about American laws. America is a Satanic state.

    • Replies: @Poco
  159. utu says:
    @Alden

    “Forgive my cynicism.” – You are behind. And not cynical enough. If there is money to be made then the official status of Holocaust survivor will be granted.

    In First, Germany to Compensate 25,000 Holocaust Survivors From Algeria
    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/germany-to-compensate-25-thousand-holocaust-survivors-from-algeria-1.5788879

  160. Anon[554] • Disclaimer says:

    At least Attali names the natural, ongoing anti-native-European alliance of Jews and Muslims. At least he names their primary goals. Validating Hitler and all anti-Jewish sentiment in the process.

    Attali has been steeped in his bubble for so long that he thinks that the greatest morality of the world is to avoid being labeled an anti-Semite. The rest of the World only need to sacrifice their land to other nations and power to Jews to avoid being called that name. Acquiescing to our own eradication and thereby safely absolved of being anti-Semitic.

    Luckily for us, he does our work for us when he speaks from that position.

    As to why Jews still think that anyone owes them any consideration of their various thoughts that are cover for their tribal political aims, outside of their own nations, is a mystery. Their thoughts are like a weak breeze. I can barely hear it even when it is beating on my face as hard as it has the strength to do.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  161. @Jake

    Heart of the problem:

    What made it possible? The Reformation, the rebellion against Christ and Christendom, which led – most horrifically – to the formation of WASP culture based on a Judaizing heresy, which built the largest and wealthiest empire in world history and so spread Judaizing across the globe.

  162. @Jake

    The solution & bottom line:

    This is a religious war. It cannot be won in any way other than whites repenting of rebellion against Christ and Christendom and acting to rebuild Christendom.

    The choices are bow to Christ and Christendom or be the serfs of Jews.

    • Agree: Miro23
  163. buzzwar says:
    @Marcus

    By their own admission the Jews recognize that the Mossad was very active during the Algerian war of indépendance, supposedly to protect the Jews in Algeria. Apparently the OAS had a Jewish section.
    more info in this link.
    https://www.jforum.fr/comment-le-mossad-a-gagne-la-bataille-de-constantine-et-dautres.html

  164. @nebulafox

    That period in history is fascinating.
    As far as I understand, their is still debate on the role of plague -weakening the Romans in the East and the Persians in the Near East-thus, leaving a vacuum for Islamic conquest. To think that a plague might have played such a critical role…The history of everything changed by epidemic disease. If not, Rome could have held in the West and East leading to stasis. Access to the East Mediterranean and Near East trade..no serious incentive to seek a path to the Indies.
    It’s not so much what didn’t happen though. If enough archaeology confirms that the plagues of that period were devastating enough to alter history then we, in the present, need to be prepared for any disease event. We are not prepared. The exact opposite in fact: all our systems facilitate the free movements of goods and people. I don’t think we are the only people aware of this either. I strongly suspect that, despite SARS and other warnings, no reforms have been made and none are planned in case this option is excercised by tptb.

  165. @Anon

    Agree.

    E Michael Jones had a knock-down drag-out with Jew-for-Jesus Michael Brown.
    They strongly disagreed on the nature of Jews, Jones insisting on his “Logos” thesis, while Brown maintained that “some Jews are people who try to be good people according to their religious beliefs, and they should not be lumped with “all Jews / rejecting Logos.”

    I agree w/ Brown.

    Jones is too enamored of his thesis.

    imho, the Jewishness that, for example, Gilad Atzmon objects to, and maybe that Jones describes as those who “killed Christ,” are not religious people, or even tribalists or ethnics at all: they are, as zionism certainly is, a political movement.

    Jewishness / zionism is a political position; it craves power.
    Those Jews who did say, Crucify him, were not offended because Jesus disagreed with some spiritual tenet, they wanted him dead for the same reason zionists wanted JFK dead: because he threatened their power base.

    Esther and Mordecai are the models of this branch of Jewry, and Benji Netanyahu is its present-day pope.

    There is nothing more legitimate and protected by basic American / foundational Constitutional principles than a strenuous critique and even condemnation of the political movement, zionism, in USA.

    Elan Carr’s position in US State Dept. should be eradicated; it violates First Amendment.
    It is an abomination.

    https://statedept.brightcovegallery.com/detail/video/6025290559001/department-press-briefing—april-11-2019-with-special-envoy-elan-s.-carr

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @bjondo
    , @Wizard of Oz
  166. Abdullah says:
    @AnonStarter

    Muslim Americans are better off establishing more independent, localized mosques and madrasas to more immediately and effectively meet the needs of the respective communities they serve. I left the high-profile NAIT mosques years ago and I’ve never found a reason to return.

    Couldn’t agree more. Saudi arabia (what a heretical name in itself, as if these thugs own the place) has had become the source of wahabi ideology through money across much of the wider muslim world and beyond. They’ve had a corrupting influence on many places although their money did help seed a new masjid r madarsa in under funded communities.

    However Saudi Arabian “leadership” is shedding it’s pretentious cloak of late (with the arrival of MBS) and is quickly showing it’s true colors as an anglo zionist project. This has been a very good development and quite a few muslims are awakening to the “true nature” of Saudi Arabian power. I hope that this will give people pause before accepting any kind of Saudi money

    • Replies: @Miro23
  167. Anon[290] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Dark Night

    Yet all of their gentile cultural foundation is Jewish: all the books, all the heroes, all the saints, all the ideas.

    That’s not remotely true. You are a theological and cultural know-nothing if you believe otherwise.

    Your citation of the Saints as Jewish is (laughable) prima facie evidence of that.

    You are evoking the typically Jewish over-representation of their contributions (which you fail to cite in detail, and when you attempt to – see the Saints – you do so incorrectly). Which arises from the typically inflated Jewish ego from being told that they are special, combined with a gross and often justified insecurity about their actual social station and abilities.

    Aside from corrosive philosophy, theoretical (and arguably corrosive) psychology, and theoretical physics their contributions aren’t very much. Especially by comparative weight. Their materialist theology is even grossly unoriginal, it being an amalgam of Iranian (Aryan) two-in-one monotheism that is traceable far further back in European history than Persia, Sumerian (non-Semitic) paganism, and ancient Greek worship of the Demiurge / technology God.

    It now must be said that there is no worse moron that one with diarrhea of the mouth (or keyboard as it may be). You know that you don’t know what you are talking about, and yet you believe that making unsupported forceful assertions will make up for that fact. In real life, such bullshit artists are usually labeled as having some measure of personality disorder and rightly avoided by good, normal people.

    You obviously are clueless about your subject matter. Take a hike.

    One thing is true – nationalism in the US and in Europe is antisemitic, that’s a fact. I spent three months on a nationalist Christian site, talking to people and I know how these people think.

    As if that’s any measure of nationalism’s morality. Judaism is inherently anti-gentile. By your moral logic, it is to be as condemned and invalid as the nationalism that you deride.

    If Judaism wasn’t an imperialist religion bent on dominating all other nations, anti-Semitism would not be necessary. Judaism is that, and therefore a hostile reaction to those aims is perfectly moral and necessary.

    Do to its inherently hostile political nature, Jews do not have an innate right to live outside of their nation where they will inevitably seek to weaken their host nations. It is moral to be rebuff them in-total.

    These Christians admire Nietzsche, but hate the Jews because they were told that the Jews wrote it in the Talmud that they are the master race, and that the Gentiles are “cattle” to them. How weird, the ideas are the same but in the case of Nietzsche they love them, and in the case of Jews they hate them, because these ideas suddenly become immoral.

    The major difference there is that there is no broad, extant European theology that mandates a destruction of all other nations. There is in Judaism.

    There isn’t a broad, mainstream movement of Europeans that is looking to deny Jews their racial homeland. Whereas that is the central thesis of Judaism in looking to deny that to Europeans and everyone else. Because their god only gave Jews land.

    After chastising Christians for supposedly not reading the New Testament, its like you haven’t even read the Torah. Imagine that.

    In sum, Europeans aren’t looking to colonize Israel and destroy it through attacking the culture and its ethnic composition in order to control it for their own ends.

    Jews have been looking to do that to Europe since they stepped foot in it. They’ve largely succeeded, the final blows which are now being doled out.

    You are not comparing parallel intentions nor actions, but instead are trying to compare Jewish imperialists to European Nationalists like they are the same animal. Instead, and unless Europeans write a religion that holds that all non-Europeans are to be eventually genocided as the Jews have for all non-Jews, then you are being deceitful.

    A Jew or a Jew supporter cannot successfully invoke hypocrisy to any target of Jewish destruction. Hypocrisy is the first language of the Jewish group.

    Not once and not twice, but many times I offered to them to debunk any of the fake Talmud quotations and show them the real piece of the text, no matter how obscure. I’ll find it!

    We can spend all day at Sepharia.org going over genocidal, imperialist, nation destroying, hypocritical, slave driving aims and means of Jews as written by them. Though, I like the Zohar as well as the Talmud for that. Its more concise by a large margin.

    You can’t debunk anything that I attest to, because its all pulled directly from their own printing of their own words. You’ll try to spin it, but will be unsuccessful as you are in your bluster and attempted intimidation here in your role as a self-appointed “debunker”.

    • Replies: @Adelaar
    , @The Dark Night
  168. Anon[360] • Disclaimer says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    while Brown maintained that “some Jews are people who try to be good people according to their religious beliefs, and they should not be lumped with “all Jews / rejecting Logos.”

    I agree w/ Brown.

    Jones is too enamored of his thesis.

    Well, then you are outed as knowing nothing about the Judaism that you feel entitled to a public opinion about. Which is a strange entitlement for someone that does not know their subject matter.

    Hypothetically: if a group broadly believes in the genocide of another group, are some individuals “good people” within the group that holds that belief? Is tolerance then warranted for the broad group?

    I know many Jews that are “good people”. That does not change the fact that the religion that they believe in openly holds, as its central thesis, an aim to destroy all nations, subjugate all other peoples, and collect a world tax from Israel as a means of symbolic world slavery to Judaism and that will allow them to not work (the symbolic station of the slave master).

    Europeans tend to have an emotionally driven tendency toward thinking the best about people and compromise. Which is what your comment here wreaks of. Its a tendency that arises from being over-civilized for too long. The desert nomads don’t share that weakness, and are ruthlessly exploiting it with a group theology that has your total destruction as its central aim.

    Here is one small opening into one facet of what I describe above. The total evidence spans Jewish religion and history, and is documented by more numerous and credible people than Michael Hoffman:

    https://www.jta.org/2010/10/18/israel/sephardi-leader-yosef-non-jews-exist-to-serve-jews

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ovadia_Yosef#Non-Jews’_role

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/jerusalem-closes-down-for-rabbi-ovadia-yosefs-funeral/

    Ignorant statements in support of Jews and Judaism only serve as interference and cover for such repugnant Jewish aims. Witting or not, they are in service of those aims.

  169. Art says:

    “Sovereignism is nothing but the new name of anti-Semitism. Jews and Muslims, who are both threatened by it, must unite against the fantasies of the great replacement.”

    First the Jews get the whites to kill Arabs — now they beg Arabs to kill whites.

    These Jews are devils.

    The JQ grows!

    • Agree: Ilyana_Rozumova, Iris
    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  170. Catiline says:

    Yo Willie, when you say “Gentiles” don’t you really just mean northwest Europeans?

  171. It takes two to tango. Why is it a Jewish problem that Gentiles are so stupid? Who’s worse, the conman or the greedy rube who keeps thinking he’ll get something for nothing. Plenty of people say stupid things. Why listen to it?

    • Replies: @silviosilver
    , @Adelaar
  172. Poco says:
    @The Dark Night

    So, that would make Israel Satan’s asshole.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  173. @Honesthughgrant

    What exactly are white goys trying to “get for nothing” in their interactions with Jews?

    This sounds like nothing more than a slimy Jewish deflection tactic, if you ask me.

  174. @The Dark Night

    You are too late to make good with all this shilling.
    Cat’s out of the bag. The world does not revolve around you.

    Your grotesque Talmud and all the other hate-filled garbage your “culture” produced is known to too many.

    And the Church did keep anyone “In the dark.” That’s a completely uninformed viewed of the medieval era, one no longer supported by even Jewish scholars.

    • Replies: @Adelaar
  175. Harbinger says:
    @The Dark Night

    Not once and not twice, but many times I offered to them to debunk any of the fake Talmud quotations and show them the real piece of the text, no matter how obscure. I’ll find it!

    This really sums up the nonsense you’ve just written in all of your reply.
    There are no fake talmud quotes, none whatsoever atall.

    E Michael Jones and Michael Hoffman have both written extensively on the talmud. I believe Hoffman’s book Judaism Discovered took him somewhere in the region of 10 years to research and write.
    There are videos on YT, of interviews with Israeli rabbis who preach what the talmud thinks about the goyim.
    Anyone who can come onto any website and start trying to defend the talmud, stating that it’s “quoted out of context” or “the quotes are fake” is either a delusional idiot, or a troll.

    But then, this is what you do, the Jew that is. People will quote the Protocols of Zion, which everything within by the way, mentioned of what would happen has and they’ll call it a forgery and anti semitic. And then they’ll blatanly lie, about quotes being taken out of context, when talmud quotes are brought into the fore.
    The Jew will lie, regardless when the truth is there in front of him, because it is the very essence of the Jewish identity – pathological lying.
    And now, I believe, the new belief of the Jew is, even though something never happened and there’s no proof it ever existed, doesn’t mean it’s not true, such as the many blatant lies written about the holocaust, Jews have lied about. The Jew has managed, in one fell swoop to turn a lie into a truth because if you believe in something, so much, then it can be true.

    Listen Dark Night, the jig is up. The Internet (Jews are desperately trying to shut down) has exposed Judaism and the Jews for what they are. More and more truths are coming out about Jews and you know, it’s all over for the Jews.
    I’ve always been one who has defended all peoples on this earth. I’ve always believed that all peoples in this world should have a homeland and place to grow and live by their own cultural ways. Heck, I even, foolishly believed the same for Jews. Then, however, I started educating myself on the tribe. I started reading of your history. I read and listened to what Jews had stated about ‘the goyim’ and I was utterly shocked that such evil could ever be said of others. I then put two and two together and realised that the wrongs in this world were 100% down to the Jews, their hatred, their supremacy and their racism. I then came to the simple conclusion – they cannot live in this world with the rest of the human race. I stopped caring what happens to you. You lost all my sympathy and respect. You are a truly evil people and you’re finally being exposed for what you really are.

    • Agree: anarchyst
    • Replies: @The Dark Night
    , @tac
  176. @The Dark Night

    I can’t believe I read your whole comment, but I just had to find out where you were going with your anti-christian rhetoric…”nationalism is antisemitic”! That was the only time you made fucking sense dude!

    How about this one, without having to read a bunch of bullshit, “Zionism is Anti-humanity”, Einstein!

  177. @anon

    “Mufti’s support of Hitler was much less and much less substantial than the German or European support for Hitler .”

    What does that actually mean? Nearly all the millions of non-German Europeans – especially those who, unlike the Muft, didn’t ever meet Hitler – opposed him as did hundreds of thousands of Germans.

  178. bjondo says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Skip over the BS.

    Brown’s sole purpose pretending
    to be Christian is as an infiltrator
    attacking Christians and defending Jew,
    Judaizm.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  179. Christianity is by no means the most destructive religion, neither is Islam. When you compare the losses caused by either, they pale in comparison to the contributions they made to the world.

    Communism (Judaism applied to economics) is actually the most destructive religious faith of all time. More people died in the Holodomor, which was the genocide of Ukrainian Christians by Jewish-Soviet fanatics, than the entirety of the death toll of the crusades combined.

    When it comes to Islam, I’m sympathetic. I’d much rather live as a dhimmi in an Islamic Republic, than as a persecuted minority in a nation in which the Jews destroyed all of the traditional culture and had unchallenged power.

    Really it’s only boomers who are phased by charges of “anti-semitism.”
    Anti-semitism is the term they give when whites refuse to commit cultural suicide. The above article is a perfect example of this, triggered Jews aside.

    I think it’s strange that Arabs aren’t more aware of the Jewish power over the U.S. government.
    Especially when both the fruitless invasions of the Middle East, and the collapse of the west, have the same source.

    When Christianity was formed, it was formed from the ancient faith of the Hebrews, which differed from
    the innovations of the Pharisees, let alone from the post-Christianity religion of the Talmud, which is more a showcase on the bitterness of a people spurned, than one rooted in ancient principles.

    The Jew/Muslim alliance is probably the nuttiest concept yet, though. Does he actually believe this? Once the network tv watching folks have passed on, the Jews will lose all of their hold on Americans.

    Combine that with Chinese superiority in dirty dealing, which will strip Jews of most of their global power, and the fact that many of us admire Islam to a certain extent, and the idea of anyone wanting to side (submit) to the Jews is delusion.

    I’ve spent a whole lot of time in China, and they are absolutely aware of the Jews having power over the United States. Just last year I was talking to a chick at a hotel lounge in Guangzhou, and she confidently stated that Mark Zuckerberg chose his wife, so that future Jews could infiltrate China by looking Chinese.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Seraphim
  180. Talmudism is evil. The Talmudists are doomed to the Lake of Fire on Judgment Day.
    The Kingdom of God is GROWING, so, the Talmudists will be smaller and smaller, eventually.
    Today, most of Churchianity is false. But the real Christianity, will replace it, eventually.

  181. Incitatus says:
    @Talha

    Hello Talha, always a pleasure.

    “I wonder if…[craven misuse is] such because so much of the population is so ignorant about basic history that they [the Jacques Attalis] think they can pull it off”

    Your guess is as good as mine. The few (hope they are few) liars seem to have no shame, augmented with wide media distribution (and by controversy when all else fails). Ingredients in the battle to kill Weimar, for one thing.

    “I remember once when I traveled through Switzerland for a connecting flight and ended up staying overnight at a hotel. I tried to strike up a conversation with the person behind the counter about Swiss history and mentioned some things I knew about it and the person spoke English well, but the response was basically; sorry, but I don’t really know much about Swiss history.”

    Take heart. I was crossing the Brenner in Dec 1971, armed with seven years (college qualifying) German language ‘skills’. Spoke (thought) my piece, understood their replies, lodged, checked out (no surprises). Wonderful people, wouldn’t call them very forthcoming. Maybe that’s a virtue? Who knows?

    Swiss history? Primo mercenaries in the 16C. François I depended on them. So does the Vatican today (the Swiss guard – some in Michelangelo costumes; others, well who wants to know?).

    “I wonder how many French people know about certain basic things in their history so that they can simply dismiss this for the propaganda that it is?”

    Have lifelong friends in Paris. Had a first family reunion in the 90s with my French cousins (most live outside Paris and Lyon; 399 years branch separation 2020). Wonderful people. They know better than me about French history. That said, doubt they’d fall for this crap. Just a guess.

    I know stuff is being proposed in Sweden…”

    My niece PhD (Ornithology) is involved with a Swedish counterpart. Swedes seem rather gloomy, but maybe that’s too many BBC detective dramas. I’ll let her educate me.

    Stay well, Talha.

    • Replies: @Talha
  182. @Art

    But then this is the opinion only one exceptionally low I.Q. Jew.
    p.s.
    I was for a long time thinking about the fact that the majority of Jews are actually “god Jews”
    But I have pointed out for myself that there is a problem with that. Even if great minority of Jews (as Adam Shiff, Nadler, Pelosi etc ) who are foreign troublemakers, in American nation, would be neutralized, it would not work. It would not work because these would be instantly replaced by Rabbinical council with even worse Jews.

    • Replies: @Adelaar
  183. While one blames Jews. The other blames Christians. And another blames Muslims.

    Kabbalist Masons laugh and see their world hegemony plan take shape day after day.

    p.s. The destruction of nation-states is how it will happen.

  184. Talha says:
    @HilaireBelloc

    I think it’s strange that Arabs aren’t more aware of the Jewish power over the U.S. government.

    Trust me, they are quite aware of the disproportionate influence that a certain minority has in the US government and in setting policy (the only ones that I’ve ever seen that either downplay it or try to ignore it are ex-Muslims) – they just know they can’t say anything about it.

    You’d have to be blind not to notice that Jews have a massively outsized influence in government and culture in proportion to their numbers.

    Peace.

  185. Talha says:
    @Incitatus

    Primo mercenaries

    Agreed. Solid fighters with a high regard for their autonomy and a willingness to make anyone pay a high price that thinks otherwise. Also, chocolate. 😁

    Michelangelo costumes

    LOOL! Yeah, but that’s OK, that seems to me the fashion around Turkey:

    If mustaches could win wars…🤔

    That said, doubt they’d fall for this crap. Just a guess.

    Good, it’d be nice if this guy is simply talking to himself and for the entertainment of those of us at UNZ. Harmless really.

    Swedes seem rather gloomy

    I have Swedish in laws – sweet people, but yeah, they give off an air of being very reserved or gloomy. Weather perhaps?

    Peace.

  186. @SolontoCroesus

    How’s this for a decent sensible Jew’s philosophical/ideological/political position in 20th century Anglophone countries and a few others NW of Germany?

    We live adequately secure and prosperous lives in stable enough countries where we have equal rights with other citizens. It is wrong for anyone to be accorded less and, at least for the few million fellow Jews in Eastern Europe who are our kin we should take the responsibility of doing something about it. Unfortunately none of the countries where Jews are comfortable will accept more than a handful of Jewish immigrants so there is no other practical answer but support for a Jewish state which will take all who apply. So we grit our teeth and, powerless to affect anythng much, we do what we can and say “what is the alternative?”

    At what point do the excesses of the Israeli government and the outrageousness of its propagandists and lobbyists compel apostasy? A bit like asking when parentscmust feel compelled to dob their children in to the police? Not a particularly good analogy but perhaps it helps understand your Jewish friends’ unemphatic support for Israel.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  187. @silviosilver

    Which is why the distinction between Judaism and Christianity and later between Talmudism and Christianity turns on the question from The Good Samaritan “Who is my neighbor [fellow]?”

  188. @SolontoCroesus

    I like Persians. I will never consider them the enemy. I look forward to the day we can enjoy open friendship with them again, as we did ~40 years ago.

    (Can’t believe we still shun the Persians and our two best “friends” in the ME are countries made up of grasping, unprincipled semites.)

    • Agree: Bookish1
  189. Miro23 says:
    @Abdullah

    However Saudi Arabian “leadership” is shedding it’s pretentious cloak of late (with the arrival of MBS) and is quickly showing it’s true colors as an anglo zionist project. This has been a very good development and quite a few muslims are awakening to the “true nature” of Saudi Arabian power. I hope that this will give people pause before accepting any kind of Saudi money.

    If Saudi Arabia goes, it’s an interesting question what will replace it.

  190. Seraphim says:
    @Talha

    What do you make from the fact that Arabia was never occupied (according to the map you show)?

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @nebulafox
  191. Seraphim says:
    @Talha

    @This I did not know.

    There are many more things you don’t know (you didn’t know much about Al-Hallaj, did you?). When would you decide to learn something real about Greek-Roman (Hellenistic) history (and of Christianity, for that matter)? And stop regurgitating the talking points of Islamist myth-making and victimology (you think that would ever supersede the Jewish victimology? they won’t allow you) and prattling about the Rashidun army?

    • Replies: @Talha
  192. @The Dark Night

    You need to look at the website link that I posted. It has a complete exposition of the Apocalypse. You obviously do not understand the linkage between the Apocalypse and the Fourth Gospel. The word Jew is used 71 times in John because it represents the Sanhedrin (70) and the High priest. Jews is therefore used to denote the corrupt Jewish leadership. You have missed the connections between John 8 and Genesis chapters 20-22.

    The background to John 8 is the accusation that he was born of fornication and that is why they dragged a woman in front of him that was accused of adultery. There is so much that you don’t really understand that I do not even know where to begin. Suffice to say that Jesus said that if they were the children of Abraham they would do the “works” of Abraham. What did Abraham do? We are told that he kept the whole law (Gen 26:5). Now you tell me how Abraham kept the law 430 years before it was given to Moses?

    The Jews still don’t understand…..or more to the point they do not want to understand and they still REJECT THE MESSIAH. They have learnt nothing over the last 2,000 years. So, they say that they are Jews and they say that Abraham is their father but as Jesus (yes Jesus) says….they are of the Synagogue of Satan. Suggest you visit the website and do some research.

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  193. @Oscar Peterson

    “One thing is true – nationalism in the US and in Europe is antisemitic,…”

    The moron says this as if it is a bad thing.

  194. Seraphim says:
    @HilaireBelloc

    The idea that the Jews could ever take over China is so preposterous that it can’t make you even laugh. But it evokes, for me at least, an anecdote about the mouse who boasts that he would f*** the elephant. He ask the elephant: ‘I want to… you”. The elephant agrees, but in the process breaks a wind and the mouse is sent flying and mumbling: ‘Damn, she slipped from my d***!

  195. @Wizard of Oz

    no clue what you are going on about.

    “Not a particularly good analogy but perhaps it helps understand your Jewish friends’ unemphatic support for Israel.”

    ???

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  196. @bjondo

    I agree 100% that many Jews who pretend to be Christian are infiltrators.

    I failed to make my point clearly:
    First, I’ll be forever grateful to E Michael Jones for exposing and explaining the mechanisms of social engineering that primarily Jewish and also “Judaized” Protestants have imposed on Americans and especially Catholics.

    He’s currently intensely committed to his Logos thesis: good for him, it’s his gig, go for it.

    But as regards the disagreement between Jones and Brown, I thought Jones was inflexible and missed an opportunity to drive home the fact that Jews, especially zionists, seek political power. So much of Jewish “Scripture” is about acquiring power and exercising control over others. It’s less about becoming a better person, living a richer life, and more about political matters: Yahweh the real estate broker. Judaism is about Who is in Charge, dressed in religious camouflage.

  197. Adelaar says:
    @Anon

    Cheers!

    And miraculously, no reply from the guy with the funny hat to a well-thought out statement.

    He went from “Hai guise, I’m new here” to sneering “you will lose” in just a matter of days, though.^^

  198. Talha says:
    @Seraphim

    It was never worth the bother (just desert and recalcitrant tribes) except for the strategic ports and choke points like (what is now) Oman and Yemen that the Persians had as vassals.

  199. Adelaar says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Even if great minority of Jews (as Adam Shiff, Nadler, Pelosi etc ) who are foreign troublemakers, in American nation, would be neutralized, it would not work. It would not work because these would be instantly replaced by Rabbinical council with even worse Jews.

    Soo, complete removal from our societies or what are you proposing?

  200. Talha says:
    @Seraphim

    you didn’t know much about Al-Hallaj, did you?

    Well, I knew more than you in our exchange about it.

    And stop regurgitating

    I’m trying to have a mature conversation here with other adults on various subjects. Please use the “IGNORE COMMENTER” option if my posts bother you so much, I won’t mind, in fact anyone here feeling as you do should also ignore me.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  201. Adelaar says:
    @Honesthughgrant

    LMheckingAO Honesthughgrant asks:

    Why is it a Jewish problem that Gentiles are so stupid?

    At least he’s honest in his psychopathy. Sure, why would other idiots trusting nature be the deceivers problem?
    Well, it will definitely become your problem. Again. For the 110th time it will.

  202. Adelaar says:
    @HilaireBelloc

    Even if! The whole argument seems to be:

    “Why do you even complain about Jews messing with your societies when you aren’t perfect either?”

    What a transparent, pea-brained attempt to deflect.

  203. Russia, China, Hungary. and some other nations are moving toward dictatorships.
    Democracies will be thing of the past very soon. Most of the nations will follow trend toward dictatorships. So solution is on its way by its own natural development.
    In democracy cannot by discrimination. While in dictatorship it can be.
    American democracy is becoming flea circus more and more every day,where governing bodies of the parties do not care anymore about welfare of the people. There they have only one item on the agenda. The agenda is fight for the power. American democracy did become dysfunctional. The only solution is dictatorship.
    And Dictator can discriminate.

  204. @SolontoCroesus

    I was trying to find a moral dilemma that one can easily imagine someone facing that might be approximately equal in weight to that of the decent Jewish friend who would like to be comfortable supporting Israel but then finds it difficult to stomach something like the snipers shooting Palestinians on their own side of the wire.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  205. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @Harbinger

    Please, try to put your thoughts in a more compact shape. Emotions can be left out.

    The Protocols is paraphrase of a French pamphlet. The Dialogue in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu. It was published in 1864. The text of the Protocols is a paraphrase of Machiavelli’s remarks from that pamphlet. It takes about 30 minutes to check it out and confirm. The text is online. Do it now, instead of writing another ignorant comment.

    Michael Hoffman is a liar. His book is full of bollocks. Quotations are twisted, references are incorrect. His interpretations are misleading. And of course, it can also be checked and confirmed in about an hour. The whole text of the Talmud is also published online. Open his book on any page and start checking. Soon you will see that he is a liar. I can also show and prove it to you.

    So stop please calling me a liar. You are a liar. You are a liar who doesn’t even know he is a liar. The worst kind of a liar.

  206. anonymous[422] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Dark Night

    First off, by 500 BC, the Greeks considered Europa(Europe) to be the whole continent with Greece at the eastern extremity. There were certainly non-Greek Europeans who saw a whole Acropolis whether as traders, invaders, slaves, or mercenaries. Romans surely did and the Celts attacked Greece in 278 BC along with settling in Anatolia and becoming mercenaries in Egypt during the same time period.

    Typical for a liberal Jew to retcon history.

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  207. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @Anon

    A lot of emotions and no facts. As always. I have some questions, answer them if you want to.

    The idea of a saint is Jewish. Had there been saints before the Christians? How can a theological idea be materialistic? What makes you think the Jews have ever been materialistic?

    You said that Judaism is imperialistic. How about the Christendom? Was it not a Christian empire, dominating other nations, which were conquered?

    What makes you thing that Judaism is anti-gentile? What do you mean by that? Where did you get the idea that Judaism mandates destruction of all other nations?

    You said that Judaism denies Europeans to have their own homeland. Where does this come from? Nonsense. And what about “genociding” the non-Jews? Who told you all this lies? And you said something about the Zohar. Have you read it?

    Answer these questions and you will see that all these ideas are wrong.

  208. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @anonymous

    You are missing the point. I was talking about the nations of our time, and not those which disappeared centuries ago, such as Celts. And this account is not true.

    This is what the Greek historians wrote about the Celts: “They consider it honorable to eat their dead fathers and to openly have intercourse, not only with unrelated women, but with their mothers and sisters as well.” And this: “They butchered every human male of that entire people, the old men as well as the children who were still at the breast; and the Celts drank the blood and ate the flesh of those of the slaughtered babies that were fattest with milk.”

    Did this indeed happen?

    • Replies: @Alden
  209. @Wizard of Oz

    I see.
    But not really pertinent–
    Brown is not my friend;
    Jewish angst over what Israelis do to Palestines does not worry me enough to try to find a “suitable analogy;” Jews should be anxious — ashamed, really, and not just over Palestinian outrages but over zionist Jewish behavior over the past century.

    Nevertheless, your analogy was ironically apt: “His blood be on us and upon our children.”
    Jewish behavior WILL, without a doubt, mark today’s Jewish bad-actors and their children for generations.

  210. Robjil says:
    @The Dark Night

    Reality is what we are dealing with these days. Protocols has lots of details that relate to what is happening in our time. Controlling the “press” was the biggie in Protocols. Controlling the narratives is the main method of Israel firsters to brainwash the masses for all their goal for endless power over us.

    Nine eleven was done by Israel firsters. They blamed it on the Muslims and endlessly demonized Muslim culture about it. Nine eleven is the biggest clue that our “press” is not “free”. It is controlled to hide who did nine eleven and many other big “events” to brainwash the masses.

    If Muslims join the Israel firsters, they are making fools of themselves. Fooled twice with nine eleven and this “peace treaty” from the Israel firsters.

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  211. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @secondElijah

    The most interesting part of it is that you think the Jews don’t understand their own books, their own religion, but you do. You understand it better then them, who created it. Does it sound normal?

    “Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.”

    The problem is that gentiles are not not familiar enough with the Jewish culture and always misunderstand what the Jews are saying. The thinking, the manners of expression are different.

    The Laws of God do not change. They are written in nature. “Abraham obeyed my voice,” which means he didn’t need Moses to know the Law.

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
  212. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @Robjil

    Very deep analysis.

    I am impressed with your ability to make conclusions, as you did regarding the Protocols, and build strong arguments. Please keep on entertaining me.

    Keep it coming.

    • Replies: @secondElijah
  213. Alden says:
    @nebulafox

    There’s a big difference between the Roman Empire and the Eastern Or Byzantine Empire. No one refers to the Byzantines as Romans. And yes, I know all about Turkish history and how they moved west. Wikipedia for God’s sake.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    , @Seraphim
  214. Alden says:
    @The Dark Night

    I wonder what the Celts said about the Greeks.

    • Replies: @Talha
  215. Attali has never manifested any real opposition or alarm at Jewish ethno-nationalism in the form of Zionism and the daily brutalities of Israeli policy.

    Yes, Attali is the consummate Jew hypocrite. The Jew’s deployment of faux-universalism to weaken the social fabric of host countries and create expanded social, political and economic space for himself while quietly working to camouflage or even openly promote the boundless Judeosupremacism of the Israeli Judenreich captures the essence of conniving, duplicitous Jewishness in all its repulsiveness.

    • Replies: @Miro23
  216. @The Dark Night

    The idea of a saint is Jewish.
    ——————————————–
    The idea of a saint comes from Hinduism. You are a liar, Jew.
    Go away synagogue of Satan.

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  217. Alden says:
    @The Dark Night

    I read an 1890s edition of the protocols. The 4th protocol was “ We shall see to it that the enemy appoint only the incompetent and unfit to government positions so that when the time comes we shall easily conquer them”

    That’s affirmative action. The lawyers who filed the affirmative action lawsuits were disproportionately jews. Montesquieu was a French judge aristocrat law professor and wrote about law.

    America’s founding fathers read Montesquieu and admired his views that only judges, not sovereigns, councils or anyone but judges should make the laws.
    They called it common law. But it’s really judicial supremacy. 1804 Marbury vs Madison to the latest transgender nonsense, America is a country ruled by judges who can and do make up laws as they go along.

    I never had an opinion as to the veracity of the protocols until I read the paragraph about affirmative action appointing only the unfit and incompetent to government positions

    Then I knew the protocols are the outline of a Jewish plan to take over a country. Took them about 55 years, 1910 to 1964. They did it not with laws voted on by voters and elected legislators but by life long tenure Judges who have obeyed the Jewish plaintiff’s attorneys every order.

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  218. Alden says:
    @nebulafox

    Are you confusing the Holy Roman Empire with the Byzantine Empire and the Hapsburgs with the Palalogoses?

  219. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    There is a lot of parallels between Hinduism and Judaism. However the idea of a saint in Europe was unheard of prior to the coming of Jews to Greece. Although Alexander brought some philosophers back with him after his trip to India and one of them even burned himself in front of a crowd on the marketplace, to show the power of the teaching to them, their influence was insignificant in the end.

  220. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @Alden

    Just one of a lot of examples showing that the Protocols are a fraud.

    Protocol XII: “All our newspapers will be of all possible complexions – aristocratic, republican, revolutionary, even anarchical – for so long, of course, as the constitution exists. Like the Indian idol Vishnu they will have a hundred hands, and every one of them will have a finger on any one of the public opinions as required. When a pulse quickens these hands will lead opinion in the direction of our aims, for an excited patient loses all power of judgment and easily yields to suggestion. Those fools who will think they are repeating the opinion of a newspaper of their own camp will be repeating our opinion or any opinion that seems desirable for us.”

    Dialogue XII: “It is in the following categories of newspapers that the most powerful levers of my power would be found. Here the official or unofficial tone would be completely lost – in appearance, of course – because the newspapers of which I speak would all be attached by the same chain to my government: a visible chain for some; an invisible one to others. I would not undertake to tell you what would be their number, because I would assign a dedicated organ to each opinion, in each party; I would have an aristocratic organ in the aristocratic party, a republican organ in the republican party, a revolutionary organ in the revolutionary party, an anarchist organ – if need be – in the anarchist party. Like the God Vishnu, my press would have a hundred arms and these arms would place their hands upon all the nuances of opinion throughout the entire country. One would be of my party without knowing it. Those who believe they speak their language would actually be speaking mine; those who believe they were acting in their party would be acting in mine; those who believe they were marching under their flag would be marching under mine.”

    You can see that even god Vishnu was included.

    • Replies: @Robjil
    , @Alden
  221. AaronB says:
    @The Dark Night

    One thing is true – nationalism in the US and in Europe is antisemitic, that’s a fact

    This is a rather unfortunate fact I am only beginning to fully appreciate.

    European nationalism seems different than that of all other peoples. It seems unable to exist without deep hostility towards everyone else.

    I used to think the way our culture treats “white nationalism” as uniquely illegitimate was unfair and irrational – but I am beginning to see that European nationalism really is different in kind from that of others.

    However, I believe the solution is to help Europeans develop a mature nationalism not focused on hating the rest of the world – Jews, blacks, Hispanics, Asians, etc.

    One must always bear in mind when dealing with Europe is that they are a young people – the children of the civilized world. Very recently their ancestors were barbarians. They are half formed and not fully baked. They need the help of maturer people.

    This is why their history has been so extreme and unbalanced. The main problem with Europe is the main problem with all children – lack of mature balance.

    Nietzsche describes the immature and unbalanced nature of Europeans in very vivid terms.

    • Troll: utu, Iris
    • Replies: @Art
    , @anon
  222. Talha says:
    @Alden

    Maybe:
    “Man, those guys depict butt-sex enthusiasm on their dinnerware!”
    And thus the accidental cognate “freeks” was born and found its way into vernacular…

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Alden
  223. teddy says:

    Where is the concern for making Israel Jew-Muslim-African? No, all the rest of the west must mix with the third world while Israel declares itself officially an ethnic state for Jews only.
    I’m still waiting for NancyChuck and ChuckNancy to step up to the microphone and announce that Israel’s walls are completely ineffective and immoral, which is what they say about the American wall.
    Surely these fine servants of the American people don’t care more about Israel’s security than that of the US. Do they?

    • Replies: @Robjil
    , @Miro23
  224. Robjil says:
    @The Dark Night

    Yahweh would be the correct word.

    Yahweh’s six mania, six arms (six corporations) own 9o percent of our MSM.

    https://www.truthorfiction.com/six-corporations-own-90-percent-of-news-media/

    [MORE]

    Six corporations own 90% of news media companies in America.

    The Truth:

    This claim is true.

    News Corp, Disney, Viacom, Time Warner, CBS and Comcast own 90% of the TV stations, radio stations, movies, magazines and newspapers that 277 million Americans rely on for news and entertainment.

    The consolidation of news and entertainment media companies gained attention in early 2015 when an infographic that depicts six media corporations’ chain of ownership went viral on social media.

    The infographic is mostly accurate, but it’s a little out of date. It lists General Electric as the owner of NBC, Focus Features, Comcast and Universal Pictures, but General Electric sold its media holdings to Comcast in 2013. That means Comcast has replaced General Electric as one of the six corporations that control 90% of the media.

    Media consolidation has been on a fast march over the last 30 years. In 1983, 50 companies owned 90% of American media. Over that time, Congress and the FCC have largely deregulated the media industry. The number of television stations that one company can own jumped from seven to 12 in 1985. The FCC also stopped enforcing the Fairness Doctrine, it dropped requirements for a minimum amount of non-entertainment programming, and it lifted limits on the amount of advertising that could be broadcast in one hour. Those changes made it easier and more profitable for corporations to own more media properties.

    Then, in 1996, President Clinton signed the Telecommunications Act, which led to rapid consolidation of the radio industry because it lifted a 40-station ownership cap. A 2004 appeals court decision also struck down even more media ownership rules.

  225. teddy says:
    @The Dark Night

    Can we just drop the term anti-Semitic, which is now a nonsense term? DNA proves only 2-3% of Israeli Jews are related in any way to peoples of the ancient Mideast. Jews are white Euros who have chosen to join together into a tribe.
    I assume you are against Israel sovereignty, also, Right?
    When you use terms like redneck, what do you expect in return? Contempt breeds contempt.

  226. Robjil says:
    @teddy

    Pelosi doesn’t care if the USA crumbles. Israel aid/cooperation is the only thing on her mind. Our Congress creatures are Israel Zombies.

    https://therealnews.com/stories/the-attack-on-ilhan-omar-and-pelosis-unconditional-support-for-israel

    NANCY PELOSI: If this capital crumbled to the ground, the one thing that would remain is our commitment to our aid–and I don’t even call it aid–our cooperation with Israel. That’s fundamental to who we are.

  227. teddy says:
    @The Dark Night

    Please. Israel recently officially declared it is an ethnic state for Jews, meaning it is now the most racist nation on earth.

  228. @The Dark Night

    This is not my response but a response from a fellow Jew and a prophet to boot. You do not understand your own Torah. As Paul says it is as though a veil is drawn before your eyes as when the people asked Moses to put a veil over his face. You obviously do not understand your LAW otherwise you would not have crucified your Messiah and you would not be carrying on the way you are now. Shame. Abraham kept the LAW before it was given….you cannot keep it after it was given (LOL).

    This is what YOUR PROPHET says:

    [MORE]

    Isaiah 29:10-15 10 For the LORD hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered. 11 And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed: 12 And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned. 13 Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men: 14 Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid. 15 Woe unto them that seek deep to hide their counsel from the LORD, and their works are in the dark, and they say, Who seeth us? and who knoweth us?

    You are in a deep sleep. You cannot read your own book. What a state it has come to when you need to sit at the feet of Gentiles to be instructed in Truth (Micah 7:20). Your wisdom has PERISHED. God will not be mocked….judgement Day is coming. You will soon meet your maker and your Messiah. What are you going to say then? What excuses for your constant warmongering, deception and victim hood? Shame.

  229. Anon[713] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Dark Night

    We have reach reverse nazi ideology in the west , the same way that nazis apropiated jesus and said he was aryan jews are now doing exactly the same apropiating all the achieviments of europe, it wouldnt surprise me if they end up claiming that jews were aryans too, ridiculous but true i have saw some clue in that direction sugesting some kind of common ancestry with caanites .LOL
    Probably coming from all those european / ashkenazi mixed new generation trying to reconcile both ancestries.

    The truth doent matter anymore

    – the reinassance was started thanks to the gradual destruction of the bizantine empire since the 13 century and the masive inmigration of ortodox monks and nobles to italy bringing with them thousands of clasic books and art for the graeco roman era.
    The invention of the printing press by germans spreading the graeco roman worldview to the rest of europe would make the posterior revolution posible starting with protestantism a religion that would institute the morals so a proto capitalist society could emerge.

    Another big lie is retrating the old church as irredemable oscurantist when they were the ones that instituted the first universities in the 11 century and teach ius gentium or Roman law of peoples which was in demand across Europe for those defending the right of incipient nations against empire and church , trivium–the preparatory arts of grammar, rhetoric and dialectic or logic–and the quadrivium: arithmetic, geometry, music, and astronomy were one of the matters that those first universities teach their students.

    your empire of lies is going to collapse sooner or later .

    Arrivederchi

  230. @The Dark Night

    We don’t have to understand it. As Kevin MacDonald has proven, all you need to do is quote Jews directly with their own interpretations. Like this:

    https://www.nationaljournal.com/s/59500

    “Why Immigration Reform is a Jewish Issue”.

    But here is the problem – Jewish lawyering and dissimilating over their texts is irrelevant. We have Michael Hoffmann and Ariel Toaff and many other Jewish apostates who can confirm meanings for us – and various translations and our own lying eyes.

    You are as bad as daft Muslims trying to argue that ISIS and more orthodox forms ‘aren’t Muslim’. Conor Freidersdorf has a piece on it in The Atlantic that has been memory holed by the Jews. Probably because Israel used ISIS as a ruse by which to expand it’s territory.

    Because here is the thing:

    “The Jews in Europe are doomed because they spent the last 70 years undermining European nationalism and supporting the transformation of European population demographics. That strategy was understandable, given their mid-century experience with German nationalism, but short-sighted, and its long-term failure was absolutely inevitable. That is relatively obvious now; everyone from Benjamin Netanyahu to Sammy Ghozlan has concluded that it is time for continental Jews to go home to Israel. And while the Jews in the UK aren’t quite at that point yet, I expect they will be soon enough. The English have long looked with mild disapproval upon the Jews in their midst, but they simply don’t hate them the way their millions of recent Polish and Muslim immigrants do.”

    Jews in Europe are doomed.

    Here is also the thing:

    “What is much less obvious at this point is that the Jews in America appear to be similarly doomed because their elite has spent the last 50 years undermining American nationalism and supporting the transformation of America’s population demographics under the mistaken impression that it would be “good for the Jews”. Feeling threatened by European nationalism as a result of their experience with Germanic nationalism, a small number of elite Jews worked very hard to remove the barriers to entry that protected their people from those who hate them considerably more than Frenchmen or Americans do. In fact, some of them are still at it; consider this piece published in the National Journal” – which I’ve linked above.

    Jews are fighting the last war.

    “Even in the case of immigrants who don’t have anything against Jews, groups such as the Mexicans and Chinese, the demographic tradeoff has been a negative one for the Jews because unlike the various European nations, the newcomers are totally immune to the Holocaustianity to which misbehaving Jews have tried to hide behind for decades. Forget Greenspan, Bernanke, and Yellen, even critics of Bernie Madoff, the Jewish con artist who materially harmed more Jews than any anti-semite since Adolf Hitler, were declared to be “anti-semites” by Abe Foxman of the Anti-Defamation League.”

    “That is why I expect the French policeman’s response will serve as a predictive microcosm of the European and American responses to the war that the New Europeans and the New Americans are waging on their resident Jews.

    “What do you expect us to do?” one officer said, then looked away.

    If the Jews in America do not wish to see America follow Europe’s lead in this regard, they are going to have to do a complete 180 on immigration, do it fast, and do it hard. Regardless, I suspect an investment in Israeli real estate may be something to seriously consider as the demand for housing there is only going to grow.”

    Buy real estate in Israel Sagi.

    You’re going to need it.

    Jews need to stop trying to destroy the west that gave them safe harbour, in partnership with Muslims.

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  231. @The Dark Night

    The idea of a Saint comes from Jesus Christ – who the Jews repudiated and who marked you as the Synagogue of Satan.

    You guys are hysterial. You shapeshift out of white-skin as you please and claim Jesus Christ as you please. Jesus Christ marked you as the Synagogue of Satan, and Jesus Christ appointed the Saints.

    https://www.nationaljournal.com/s/59500

    “Why immigration reform is a Jewish issue”

    You deny white people their nations by adulterating them and forcing them to reside among enemy and alien nations. You are hysterical.

    ‘Genociding the non-Jews’

    Here is the case laid out in 1882, and it is literally almost exactly the same as the Jewish agenda of today. Almost word, for word:

    http://ghdi.ghi-dc.org/sub_document.cfm?document_id=581

    “Manifesto to the Governments and Peoples of the Christian Nations Threatened by Judaism”: The First Anti-Jewish Congress in Dresden (September 11-12, 1882)

    Lets just have a look at the Jewish finance-media complex of 1882:

    “The Jews have become the undisputed masters of the financial markets. They dominate the stock exchanges, where they determine the price of money and monetary values, commodities, and industrial goods at will. As a result, they are the ones controlling the capitalist’s purse, the fruits of the farmer’s and businessman’s labor. They dominate the banks and all financial institutions in general. Consequently, they are the creators of fictitious values, the masters of credit and monetary turnover, whose channels they open up, at liberty, to their own fellow tribesmen while closing them off to any non-Jew not to their liking.

    The natural consequence of this monopolization of the financial market is that the farmer, the big landowner, the industrialist, the artisan, the merchant, etc., have all gotten caught up in material dependency upon Jews. And because their livelihood became subject to the arbitrariness of the Jews in this way, they were forced to turn into their obedient servants, their trainbearers. What’s more, the Jews hire influential men who are active in public life to fill well-paid positions at banks, railways, insurance companies, etc. These individuals are thus virtually kept as Jewish vassals and are the most zealous and influential supporters of Jewish power in the legislatures and governments.

    The tip of this economic and financial pyramid is the Rothschild “dynasty,” which has turned into the banker to financially needy countries. Without its agreement, waging war is virtually impossible nowadays. And if a war is waged after all, it represents merely a good opportunity for this “dynasty” to add more billions to those it already has and to concentrate more and more of the capital assets of the European peoples in the hands of the “dynasty” and the Jewish race, even by exploiting their national calamities. ”

    Yes – this is exactly the same in 2019

    “Through incredible national debt burdens that are continuously increased by the Jewish financial powers and which sap the nations’ marrow, the governments of some indebted countries have become nothing more than Jewish institutions, Jewish collection agencies. This explains the complete inactivity of these governments with respect to the Jewish question and also their hostile behavior against their own populations in favor of Jewry.”

    “The Jews have managed, on the one hand, to gain direct control over the majority of the periodicals and, on the other, to exert an indirect influence on them in their favor, so that until recently no newspaper in Central Europe would have dared to speak the truth vis-à-vis Jewry.”

    “Thus the Jews have become absolute masters, fabricators of public opinion. Any complaint raised against them, however justified it may be, is suppressed. Any article that addresses the subject of Jewish dominance to the slightest extent is done away with. They bestow praise and reproach on the living and the dead, on rulers, statesmen, civil servants, scholars, artists, etc., even on individuals’ private lives. The professional advancement of men active in public life and the recognition and rewarding of their achievements is dependent upon the favorable position of the Jewish press. Consequently, anyone wishing to reach his goals through some kind of public career is forced to curry the favor of the Jewish press and thus that of the Jewish clan.”

    “As a result of this situation, intellectual slavery and moral cowardice vis-à-vis Jewry is one of the most characteristic features of our age. Aspiring young professionals are worried about their future; elderly men who have made a name for themselves are concerned about their past and their posthumous reputation. And in order to secure these things with the help of the Jewish press, they become trainbearers of Jewish power, they turn into traitors to their own nation and race and thus to their own blood relations.”

    “In many countries, the Jews have adulterated the system of [freemason] lodges, stripped it of its essence, and degraded it into one of the most dangerous and effective instruments of Jewish power.”

    Yes this checks out as well. Every single claim made in 1882 is even more congruent and accurate in 2019, and was probably the same in 3000BC with your ancestors.

    It’s literally exactly the same. For 3000 years, you have been exactly the same.

    How dare you come on this website like a moron when all of the material is easily to hand and say no Jew has ever called for a genocide of the gentile. Are you an imbecile?

    Did you read Unz’s material about World War 2? There are multiple pieces of work on behalf of Jewry calling for exactly that.

    My God, I can understand why people come to hate you so.

    Judaism is totally imperialistic, constrained only by relatively few numbers. It is a total cultural, spiritual and economic imperialism. Most of the ‘imperialism’ of the European empires was the imperialism of the Jews using Europeans as their host. The East India Company of David Sassoon funded by the Rothschilds responsible for the Opium wars in China is a good example.

    Just stop Sagi. The more you guys lie and reframe and triangulate and caveat and qualify the worse you look. It hasn’t worked. It won’t work. Jews need to change all of their polices by 180, or they are going to create conditions that can’t be resiled from.

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  232. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @Flint Clint

    No Flint.

    The idea of sainthood comes from the Essenes to which Jesus belonged and also from the rabbis with whom he argued. And the Jews did not repudiate him.

    Who were the first Christians? Jews. And they weren’t called Christians in the beginning and hadn’t been excommunicated until St. Paul started his own branch of this then new trend, in which he accepted gentiles without proper instructions. This led to a schism, and Messianic Judaism turned into the Church and the Jews repudiated them. Also learn the differene between a saint and the apostles, which Jesus indeed appointed.

    As for the rest of your comment it looks absolutely idiotic.

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
    , @Alden
  233. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @Flint Clint

    Michael Hoffman isn’t a Jew and Ariel Toaff wrote a book, which everybody knows of but no one has read.

    Conserning the immigration I think that within healthy margins it is good for most people, and I also read a report from 2002 or so on the UN site which in short says that without immigrants European market should fade away in the next 30 years or so, since the population is aging. When it comes to this, no one is going to care about these nationalistic sermons. No money – no honey.

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
  234. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @secondElijah

    Entertaining! Keep it coming.

    But think, wouldn’t it be better if gentiles wrote their own books instead of arguing with Jews about theirs? For 30 centuries the Jews and the Hindus have been influencing the whole world with philosophical writings that Europeans seem to be unable to even understand, let alone to produce something equal. Time to start catching up.

    Or better yet, stick with Nietzsche and Darwin and leave Jewish books to Jews.

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
  235. @The Dark Night

    No it doesn’t.

    Lol the Jews didn’t repudiate Christ?

    What kind of idiocy is this? Please – do tell. Tell us how the Talmud or whatever febrile Rabbinic text says the opposite of what it says.

    The fact that you think it looks idiotic shows how completely denuded you and yours are of even the slightest sense of reality. Completely and totally divorced from reality, you are. You absolute moron – so the Jews who are actually leaving Europe to escape their own migration policy, aren’t actually? How the fuck do you simply say that the Jews aren’t leaving Europe, when they are actually leaving Europe? And if it’s for the same set of conditions as are present in the United States – why is it idiotic?

    Are you bainless cut-dick Heebs so immersed in your own stupidity that you haven’t noticed that the Democrats are now led, in essence, by a Palestinian and a Somali? California didn’t even endorse Dianne Feinstein.

    Surely the fabled Jewish IQ must be a myth.

    Jews also aren’t Christians. You are even more pathetic then Ben Shapiro at trying to foster this nonsensical, absolutely retarded and insulting ‘Judeo-Christianity’.

    https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/the-myth-of-the-judeo-christian-tradition/

    It’s a myth. Don’t foster a nonsensical myth.

    https://forward.com/opinion/334403/dear-ted-cruz-quit-using-judeo-christian-values-to-exploit-my-faith/

    It’s also anti-semitic.

    It’s a canard.

    https://www.jewishpress.com/blogs/yoris-news-clips/theres-no-such-thing-as-judeo-christian-values/2013/12/26/

    Oh look, more Jews showing you for a liar.

    You’re a liar.

    Why do you do this?

    The idea of Sainthood in the Catholic faith, where Saints reside, comes from Rabbis? No. Just no.

    https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4257174,00.html

    Here is a Jew – as opposed to a ‘Saint’ and the Jewish attitude to the New Testament.

    “Weren’t called Christians in the beginning” – it doesn’t matter what they were called, in the beginning. They were followers of Christ. That means most emphatically they weren’t effing Jews.

    “On the most basic level, the religion of most traditional Jews is actually not at all monotheistic, but instead contains a wide variety of different male and female gods, having quite complex relations to each other, with these entities and their properties varying enormously among the numerous different Jewish sub-sects, depending upon which portions of the Talmud and the Kabala they place uppermost. For example, the traditional Jewish religious cry “The Lord Is One” has always been interpreted by most people to be an monotheistic affirmation, and indeed, many Jews take exactly this same view. But large numbers of other Jews believe this declaration instead refers to achievement of sexual union between the primary male and female divine entities. And most bizarrely, Jews having such radically different views see absolutely no difficulty in praying side by side, and merely interpreting their identical chants in very different fashion.

    Furthermore, religious Jews apparently pray to Satan almost as readily as they pray to God, and depending upon the various rabbinical schools, the particular rituals and sacrifices they practice may be aimed at enlisting the support of the one or the other. Once again, so long as the rituals are properly followed, the Satan-worshippers and the God-worshippers get along perfectly well and consider each other equally pious Jews, merely of a slightly different tradition. One point that Shahak repeatedly emphasizes is that in traditional Judaism the nature of the ritual itself is absolutely uppermost, while the interpretation of the ritual is rather secondary. So perhaps a Jew who washes his hands three times clockwise might be horrified by another who follows a counter-clockwise direction, but whether the hand-washing were meant to honor God or to honor Satan would be hardly be a matter of much consequence.”

    I think it’s absolutely hilarious you are so stupid and so arrogant as to come onto Ron Unz’s website and tell us all that Jews actually love Jesus.

    You are totally delusional. But it’s very interesting talking to you to see the unreality that animates your tribe.

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  236. @The Dark Night

    Ah yes, without Jewish leadership on immigration European culture cannot survive right?

    Except it did, perfectly well, thrived even, with growing prosperous populations until the Jewish demographic engineers appeared on the scene and wrought destruction around in the 1960’s and 1970’s. In every single western country.

    I’ve read Ariel Toaff’s book – and Israel Shahak is a Jew.

    Before Jews took full power in European countries those European countries had stable populations. Every single one of them. And if they were declining moderately in the 50’s and 60’s and 70’s, it is the right of a sovereign nation to accept slightly lower standards of living in return for a lower population.

    I think Israel is well within the limits of acceptable immigration – all those Ethiopian Jews are completely underrepresented. Your attitude is exemplary. We all look forward to Jewish house-holds taking in these desired neo-Europeans.

    Because you are of course, the neo-Palestinians.

    And at all stages the Jewish replacement project has been popularly opposed, by European countries.

    Of course you think that. You probably think the current state of affairs isn’t even a ‘healthy margin’ yet – when the United States now constitutes the largest and fastest movement of people in the history of mankind. Well, it’s got at absolute maximum about 15 years left.

    I don’t want to have to bother dealing with this idiocy but the cessation of civic infrastructure which is pending forces engagement.

    Ah of course, never mind all the Jews who speak of Judaism – like the host of this website. Any non-Jew can’t comment on Jews. Even though Jews insist on telling gentiles absolutely everything about themselves, in the manner of projection. Freud wanted to have sex with his mother – so naturally he divined that intention at large to justify his debased Jewish predilections.

    Well – if you continue to think that we shall see what occurs. Even Jonathan Haidt, moderate and milquetoast, understands the dynamics in play. Idiocy.

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  237. @The Dark Night

    Lol, you are profoundly dishonest.

    Europeans HAVE attempted to write their own books. What happens, whenever a gentile writes a book that contains themes regarded suspiciously by the Jews? Why, a Jew will attack the book as ‘anti-semitic’ and it will be removed from publication and ruthlessly suppressed.

    The Jews are doing that now just to ‘themes’ but now also ‘memes’.

    Not just that, the book will not only be suppressed, but Jews will write reactionary books that attack every concept within the book in retaliation – like Adorno’s ‘Authoritarian Personality’, which was another Jewish projection which you’ve so personified with such alacrity in this thread. Jews write about themselves. Especially when they’re attacking western civilization.

    Ron Unz has catalogued dozens of very senior public intellectuals who have been erased from the public consciousness. How many more is it?

    So first you try to claim that Jews are really Christians. Now you try to say that conflate Aryan with Hindu.

    The West has it’s culture Jew – and that was Christian fused with Greco-Roman. It’s profoundly opposed to you and yours.

    You guys are absolutely hilarious.

    Leave the West to Westerners – feel free to critique and fester and plot in Israel and Israel alone.

    You are profoundly daft – you’ve proved that by calling a trite observation of immigration dynamics vis a vis the Jews in Europe ‘idiocy’.

    You also act is if no white person ever looks back like 50 years.

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  238. nebulafox says:
    @Alden

    They did: and until the Enlightenment came with the predictable biases against Byzantium-Gibbon’s screed on the effete, corrupt, and overly superstitious nature of the rump Eastern Roman state epitomized this attitude-most historians agreed.

    Were they an extremely different cultural construct from Flamininus and his Latin speaking pagans, and untethered to the past? Sure. But you might as well say that the United States today is not the United States just because it is a vastly different ethnic and social construct than it was in the 1700s, untethered in large part from our past. But there’s a reason they called what followed “Greco-Roman” culture: both in the interchange, and in the reality that the western and eastern empires had their differences even at the height of Rome’s unity. At the other extreme, well into the Byzantine history, the Roman skeleton of the state still survived in fundamental ways.

    As an example: the emperor might have been God’s viceroy-as was every emperor since Diocletian reinvented the office-but he was still merely an office-holder, not guaranteed that office just because of his birth. The military, the church, and even the people played vital roles in a way they didn’t out West. Just one way where Byzantium, IMO, was far more connected to the legacy of Rome than Charlemagne or the HRE.

    You simply don’t see Byzantium as Rome: therefore, you don’t believe the Turks had contact with the Romans. I do. I think the big break with anything we’d recognize as classical Greco-Roman antiquity came with the final great war with Sassanid Persia and the subsequent rise of Islam, but that doesn’t mean Rome stopped being Rome, for the same reason that I don’t think the Roman Empire stopped just because Rome itself was no longer a part of it. Rome’s role in the empire itself started to decline in prominence with Domitian and was made completely irrelevant by Diocletian, yet few say that the Roman Empire fell in 284 AD. (Although, you could make a good case that the “Rome” of everybody’s imagination did not make it out of the 3rd Century, as I mentioned earlier. These kinds of distinctions are fascinating because you learn a lot about the person by their choice.)

    We’re not going to change each other’s minds…

    • Agree: Talha
    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Alden
  239. nebulafox says:
    @Seraphim

    >What do you make from the fact that Arabia was never occupied (according to the map you show)?

    Arabia was not worth occupying or colonizing for the same reason that Germany and Scotland weren’t worth it for the Pax Romana era Romans: the land was inhospitable, the locals were inveterately warlike (and good at it), and there wasn’t anything worth taking. The Romans had client buffer states south of Syria dominated by Arab feodorati and left it at that. From what I can tell, the Persians did something similar with their clients.

    (Note: I’m not talking about Syria, Egypt, Mesopotamia, etc. For one thing, those weren’t Arab until centuries after the conquests, for another, they were *very* wealthy and worth having as the cradles of civilization-and the powers that be did just that, from Tiglath-Pileser III to Maurice and Khusrow II.)

    There was a brief African occupation of the Jewish kingdom of Himyar in modern day Yemen, an event briefly referenced in the Qu’ran, and after that kingdom collapsed, the area fell into the Sassanid sphere of influence along with the area around the Gulf, from what I recall. But interior Arabia proper… just didn’t attract anybody, except the Bedouin who could survive there, and other people who didn’t want to be detected.

  240. Seraphim says:
    @The Dark Night

    The false trope that the ‘The Protocols is paraphrase of a French pamphlet’ has been debunked for long.
    If it was a paraphrase of anything, then the best candidate is the chapter ‘”At the Jewish Cemetery in Prague” of the book ‘Biarritz’ of Herman Goedsche, a prolific and bestselling author of highly popular ‘historical-political’ novels denouncing the revolutionary conspiracies which (preceded and) proliferated in the wake of the 1848 Revolutions (and of the French Revolution). He was a conservative, partisan of Russia as a bulwark against British liberalism and its variant of capitalism, revolutionary socialism and Muslim barbarity.

    Another candidate, with a much stronger impact, were the studies “The Local and Universal Jewish Brotherhoods” (1868) and ‘The Book of the Kahal: Materials for the Study of the Jewish Life” (1869). published in Russia by the Jewish convert Jacob Brafman, as materials to serve for the resolution of the ‘Jewish problem’ in Russia. He attracted the attention on the “Alliance Israélite Universelle” founded by Adolphe Crémieux, in France (Cremieux was a Mason of the highest degree-33rd)*. For Brafman this was the “kahal of kahals” and as part of an international Jewish conspiracy controlled the other kahals. The books and Brafman became instantly the target of a vicious campaign of denigration, denying the authenticity of the archival documents, the tendentious ‘twisted interpretations’, questioning the motivations of Brafman and of the Russian administration (anti-semitism, bigotism, of course).

    *It certainly is an irony that Adolphe Cremieux is suspected to be the author of the pamphlet of Maurice Joly! No matter that nobody heard of this pamphlet until 1921.

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  241. Anon[713] • Disclaimer says:

    >So they saw little point in seriously trying to absorb the impoverished-and fanatical-residents of Anatolia when they could head east toward where the real opportunities for wealth and conversion were: India, China, Indonesia. If we look at why Europe isn’t natively Islamic and why much of the subcontinent is, that’s a big part of it.

    You are kidding right?
    After conquering part of the eastern roman and sassanids empire they launched increasingly biggest army to conquer constantinople until in 717 ac in siege of constantinople the entire muslim army elite was exterminated 150000 muslims killed and only a few returning home , that battle was the principal reason why only a few years later the first caliphate broke desuniting eternally the muslim world and stopping any serious expansive conquest in the future.

    To putt thing in perspective alexander the great army at its peak accout only to 120000 soldiers.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @nebulafox
  242. Seraphim says:
    @Talha

    It would be unethical to ignore the spreading of falsehoods and not countering it.

  243. Talha says:
    @Anon

    This is a good point; the disastrous siege of Constantinople by the Umayyads is seen by many historians to be a complete game changing event.

    Peace.

  244. Talha says:

    It would be unethical to ignore the spreading of falsehoods and not countering it.

    Sure thing. I’ll make it easy…

    Hey everyone, ignore anything and everything the Muzzie troll Talha says because all of it is a bunch of taqiyyah lies!

    Bam!!!

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  245. @anon

    go and ask your stupid French citizen to throw those scumbag out of the power who continue to steal kill and exploit SubSaharan countries and stop meddling in Syria or Iran .

    The meddling won’t stop because it is part of the Grand plan to depopulate parts of the M.E. so as to fulfill what Attali is basically calling for “Jerusalem as the Capital of the World”. By doing so they ‘kill 2 birds with 1 stone’, as they clear out the Muslims to make way for what they think will be a huge influx into the Levant of Jews (once the coast is clear), while off-loading the “refugees” onto white nations.

    NONE of the INVASIONS were necessary. You can go research oil in Iraq, and see it had no benefit to the West. So that reason is put to rest. There were no terrorists preying on Americans on 9/11, except the ones in the Bush Admin and Israeli government, with some complicity by UK and Saudis.
    There was absolutely NO PURPOSE…..Except for the purposes of the Globalist and Israeli agendas.

    They’re smart. This is definitely a Conspiracy, but not a theory.

    Sadly, they will get close…very close….to completing their goal, in the distant future. But they will inevitably be defeated by a rising world power.

    • Agree: Robjil
  246. @secondElijah

    You call the Torah philosophical writings? You have just demonstrated how little you know about “your” own book. They are certainly not philosophical writings. Besides which you still have not answered the question so I will answer it for you –

    Abraham kept the whole law (before it was even given) when he obeyed the command to SACRIFICE HIS SON. It says that because of his faith in the covenant God “counted it as righteousness” (Gen 22:15) and through Abraham’s seed (=the Messiah) all nations would be blessed. That means that Gentiles also receive the blessing…..it also means that the Torah belongs to us as well. The Jews blew it! (LOL) Because of your intransigence, stubbornness and disobedience God has turned to the Gentiles.

    Romans 9:25 As indeed he says in Hosea: “Those who were not my people I will call ‘my people,’ and her who was not beloved I will call ‘beloved.’

    Many gentiles have responded to the call. The Jewish nation blew it and lost their exclusivity. However, the Jews can still repent. In the end it was always the divine intention to have “one flock”.

  247. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @Seraphim

    Just a few hours ago, I posted it in this topic. Look up for comment 225. There is a couple of quotes from the Protocols and the Dialogues, which I chose, to show that these pamphlets are the same thing.

    • Replies: @Alden
  248. errata Gen 15:6 my bad

  249. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @Flint Clint

    Europeans tried, but couldn’t write a religious book of their own because Jews wouldn’t let them?

    Are you a troll?

  250. anarchyst says:

    Tying Judaism to Christianity was a clever trick used by the jews to “cement” their claim to the “land of Israel” and of the covenant, to which I reply, “God is not a real estate agent”.

    Jews rejected the covenant when they murdered Jesus Christ. Their covenant with God was then “null and void”.

    It is the flawed Schofield translation of the Bible that elevated jews to the status of Christianity’s “elder brothers”, which was then reinforced by the Catholic (flawed) “Vatican II Ecumenical Council” in the 1960s.

    I cringe when I hear well-meaning people talk about out judeo-Christian heritage.

    Nothing could be further from the truth.

    The only common thread between Christianity and judaism is the Ten Commandments, nothing more.

    The god of judaism is a vengeful god, totally unlike the merciful and welcoming God of Christianity.

    Christianity welcomes ALL, regardless of nationality or social status, not true of judaism.
    Judaism is an insular belief system that shuns outsiders, prohibits proselytization, and promotes a form of supremacy, relegating all gentiles (non-jews) to the status of livestock-subhumans with souls, only to be used for the advancement and benefit of jews. In fact, slavery (of goyim) is still condoned and encouraged in the jewish Talmud.

    Jews DID murder Jesus Christ.

    Sad to say, even the present-day (post-Vatican II ecumenical council) Catholic church has bought into absolving the jews for Jesus Christ’s murder.

    As always is the case, the jews got others, the Romans to do their dirty work for them, the crucifixion of Jesus Christ.

    How can Christians have the same values as the Jews; the very people who denounced and betrayed the founder of Christianity, Jesus Christ, and call for his execution (by others, of course, that is the Jewish way)?

    It makes absolutely no sense at all. Jews have no respect for Christianity, for Jesus Christ or Mary, his mother, who are both honored as Prophets in Islam, but instead, Jews spit on hearing their names and do the same while passing a Christian of any kind or a Christian Church in Israel. They have no respect for Christians or any other religion.

    It is time the Jewish lobbies and the American Government leaders as well as the dishonest, money-grubbing evangelical Christian leaders who mislead the poor American young into joining the military and believing that they are doing something for God and Christianity by fighting Israel’s wars were named, shamed and arrested and tried for treason.

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
  251. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @Flint Clint

    Look, I give up. I have to tell you the truth: we need you! As a lab rat, because we like to conduct social experiments. And now we are planning a new one. You know what?

    We are going to make you all homosexual.

  252. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @Flint Clint

    You’re right! Jewish IQ is a fake.

    Look, I can’t block you but this is the last time I’m responding to your comment. From now on you are ignored.

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
  253. Miro23 says:
    @Oscar Peterson

    Yes, Attali is the consummate Jew hypocrite. The Jew’s deployment of faux-universalism to weaken the social fabric of host countries and create expanded social, political and economic space for himself while quietly working to camouflage or even openly promote the boundless Judeosupremacism of the Israeli Judenreich captures the essence of conniving, duplicitous Jewishness in all its repulsiveness.

    It’s an Imperialist project. There’s no other way to describe it.

    Israel is the Home Nation and Jews around the world are Imperial administrators doing their jobs. Affairs in the colonies ( the US/Anglo world, Western Europe) and International organizations, are arranged to benefit Israel (through Jews holding key positions).

    Of course, the threat to Imperial possessions is nationalism and tribalism, so anything locally related to tribalism and nationalism (e.g. patriotism, tradition, religion etc.) is discouraged and punished, through the media, control of employment, education, legislation, security services (spying) and co-opting (bribing) local ethnic elites.

    It’s standard procedure, as are national ethnic reactions in fights for freedom and independence. However, the Israeli anomaly is that it only arrived on the scene well after the end of the Age of Empires (1918 – end of WW1). From this POV the WW2 German and Japanese lunges for Empire, respectively into Eastern Europe and Asia, were also anomalies (that soon failed).

  254. Miro23 says:
    @teddy

    I’m still waiting for NancyChuck and ChuckNancy to step up to the microphone and announce that Israel’s walls are completely ineffective and immoral, which is what they say about the American wall.

    Surely these fine servants of the American people don’t care more about Israel’s security than that of the US. Do they?

    When you accept that they’re Imperial agents, administering the US for the benefit of Israel it all makes sense. They have a first loyalty to Israel and they’re actually quite open about it.

  255. @The Dark Night

    “Europeans tried, but couldn’t write a religious book of their own because Jews wouldn’t let them?”

    The Aryan Jesus: Christian Theologians and the Bible in Nazi Germany
    Susannah Heschel
    https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691148052/the-aryan-jesus

    Was Jesus a Nazi? During the Third Reich, German Protestant theologians, motivated by racism and tapping into traditional Christian anti-Semitism, redefined Jesus as an Aryan and Christianity as a religion at war with Judaism. In 1939, these theologians established the Institute for the Study and Eradication of Jewish Influence on German Religious Life.

    In The Aryan Jesus, Susannah Heschel shows that during the Third Reich, the Institute became the most important propaganda organ of German Protestantism, exerting a widespread influence and producing a nazified Christianity that placed anti-Semitism at its theological center.

    Heschel is daughter of a rabbi and passionate zionist.

    The leader of the Institute for the Study and Eradication of Jewish Influence on German Religious Life was Walter Grundmann. It is extremely difficult-to-impossible to find anything, in English, on the www, about Grundmann that does not have Heschel’s interpretive and condemning stamp.

    imo Heschel’s Aryan Jesus is a most important book about true motives of Jews in maneuvering for a war to destroy Germany — it was about religious supremacy.

    I agree part-way w/ anarchyst @ #255: “Tying Judaism to Christianity was a clever trick used by the jews to “cement” their claim to the “land of Israel” and of the covenant . . .”

    The Catholicism of my background didn’t focus on “covenant,” so I’m not entirely sure what anarchyst means by that term.
    I think Heschel / Jews could not abide the notion of Germans composing their own set of religious writings, thinking and tradition because that would remove Jews from the position of being In Charge of god.
    Rabbi Ken Spiro is one among many video-rabbis who declaim on Chosenness meaning that Jews have been chosen by gawd to lead the world, “kicking and screaming,” to live an ethical, moral life (pay no mind to those pedophiles — that’s only bad if they’re Catholic — and gawd was confused when he destroyed Sodom — violating the rights of homosexuals).

    “Are you a troll?”

  256. Talha says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Whoa – did homeboy just say this??!!

    Bravo!

    Peace.

    Note: I know it’s clipped, but man – is that hilarious!

  257. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Of course Jesus was Aryan!

    I saw a plastic doll of him – he had blue eyes and blond hair.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  258. Harbinger says:
    @The Dark Night

    Your reply epitomises everything about the Jew, I’ve stated.
    Instantly you’re on the attack with the context of my reply. You then try to imply subjection when there’s none of the sort.
    Firstly, as stated by others, the belief that the Protocols are the reworkings of Machiavelli have been thoroughly debuked. Here is what Henry Makow, a Jew, has to state on the subject:

    Maurice Joly Plagiarized “Protocols of Zion” (not vice-versa)

    Secondly as for Hoffman’s Judaism Discovered being ‘bollox’ only goes to reinforce my statement that Jews are liars, pathological ones. Even though I have never replied to you and you believe that I have called you a liar, I will, in fact call you one on your belief that Judaism Discovered is bollox and that his references are twisted and incorrect.
    There are two Talmuds – the Babylonian and the Jerusalem. The Jerusalem is the online one and the Babylonian is forbidden for the goyim to read, under pain of death.
    Essentially the two Talmuds mirror the story of the two ledgers that Jews had when the tax man came calling – one they gave to the taxman, that contained only a fraction of previous sales and the other they kept for themselves that contained the real sales tallies of that year. It was a deception that the Jew had turned into an art form.
    If there is an online version of the Babylonian Talmud, then one can guarantee that it’s a lie.

    The very reason why Christians were wary of Jews and wouldn’t allow them to be a witness, in a court of law, in the past was because of the teachings within the Babylonian Talmud, in this case that lying was perfectly acceptable towards a non Jew. Again, this is documented in historical texts.

    • Replies: @Harbinger
    , @The Dark Night
  259. wayfarer says:

    Israel Sells U.S. Weapon Secrets to China.

  260. Art says:
    @AaronB

    A very mendacious lie!

    European nationalism seems different than that of all other peoples. It seems unable to exist without deep hostility towards everyone else.

    A Truth!

    Jewish nationalism seems different than that of all other peoples. It seems unable to exist without deep hostility towards everyone else.

    p.s. Poor Little Jew AaronB – he was intellectually abused and traumatized as a child by his elders. Now he is a lifelong hasbara zombie.

  261. Harbinger says:
    @Harbinger

    I would also like to note that Jews are celebrating their festival of Yom Kippur. The prayer of Kol Nidrei is said at the start. From the following Henry Makow article (on Michael Hoffman)

    In truth, Kol Nidrei is a ceremony whereby:
    1. All the perjury you will commit in the coming year and

    2. All contracts you will sign and violate in the coming year, and

    3. All the promises you will break in the coming year
    — are absolved, with no heavenly punishment accruing as a result.

    What is disgusting is that this epitomises Jewish supremacism. On one side we have the commandment “Thou shalt not bear false witness against their neighbour” and on the other, the above in the Kol Nidrei. But then, when the Talmud specifically sees non Jews as soul less beasts, created in their image to serve, then the commandment isn’t attributed to them, only fellow Jews.
    And then people like Sagi Harare come on here try to defend clear dishonesty. It’s laughable to state the least.

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  262. nebulafox says:
    @Anon

    The financial and manpower disaster caused by the failure of the siege did mean that no new armadas were going to be sailing to Constantinople for a good long while after 717, but that didn’t mean the Arabs were necessarily precluded from *ever* trying again, should they have chosen to. The Byzantines had the ability to make invasions incredibly costly for attackers, but there was little they could have done to dissuade the Arabs from attempting it altogether. After losing Syria and Egypt, Byzantium just did not have the resources to deter superpowers anymore: the reforms of the more military minded emperors (Constans II, Leo III, Constantine V) revolved around this defensive reality. The later reconquests under the Macedonians would not have happened had the Abbasid caliphate dissolved into a multipolar Islamic World.

    It is crucial to note that the Abbasids were a far more civilian, bureaucratic dynasty than their Umayyad predecessors. They lacked the deep ties that the old Syro-Arab elites had toward the Roman world. For the Umayyads, taking Constantinople-The City-would have been the ultimate triumph: that was the pinnacle of civilization for them. The Abbasids lacked that sort of emotional fixation: they did a practical estimation cost and decided that the Romans just weren’t worth the trouble of trying to absorb into the caliphate. Raids on Anatolia did continue-the Sack of Amorium being the last big success-but mainly for the propaganda and tribute value. Nothing could have epitomized this attitude better than the relocation from Damascus-a former Roman city-to Baghdad, a new, planned city built on the Persian model, with an eastward orientation. Constantinople itself-a fortress like no other, as the caliphs knew from experience by this point-was given a wide berth.

    • Replies: @anon
  263. nebulafox says:
    @The Dark Night


    https://www.pinterest.com/pin/468092955008737416/

    It is probably a deeply embedded trait of human nature to envision religious figures as having a familiar appearance.

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  264. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @Harbinger

    Dear Harbinger!

    Listen. I am not trying to deceive you. Just check it out and you will see, I always stand by my word. If I say anything, I will prove it if needed. Promise you that.

    Now, there are four versions of the Babylonian Talmud and all of them are online and in a complete form: the Soncino English translation, the Steinsalz Hebrew translation, the standard Vilno Edition in Aramaic and a photocopied manuscript. I compared the same quotations in all the four versions and I can guarantee that the text is the same, in all of them, except that in the manuscript “gentiles” is written like gentiles, and in the later versions it is replaced with words like Samaritan or idol worshipper.

    The Jerusalem Talmud I have never seen online. No one is interested in it because it doesn’t mention what people want to find in it – that is how to treat gentiles, since it was written in Jerusalem and there were no gentiles.

    You again are telling stories without references. Which means there’s nothing to discuss. I’ve never come across that one. I don’t think it’s real because the Talmud allows to benefit from a mistake of a gentile but forbids to deceive him. On the other hand, it can be mentioned in the Talmud, as an example of what can’t be done or as an argument in a discussion. You need to see the text.

    And I looked at the link, although I think Makow is a fraud and not an intelligent man in general, I checked it.

    Makow quoted someone who connected the author of the Dialogues to the Memphis-Misraim Lodge. It can be true. That’s a Masonic lodge from France, an atheistic kind of lodge. Some think there’s a connection between them and the communism. It can be true as well. But it’s a Masonic lodge! The percentage of Jews among the Freemasons is low.

    And how does your brain work, when you think that if someone said Michael Hoffman’s book is bollocks he must be a liar? Did you check his book? I did, which is why I’m saying he is a liar: I can prove it. Can you prove the opposite?

    No.

    You called me a liar in the first comment, in second comment and now again and I am tolerant. You said I was a “delusional idiot, or a troll” and that “this is what you do, Jew – blatanly lie.” You said “the Jew will lie, regardless when the truth is there in front of him.”

    I am still waiting for the proof of me lying.

    • Replies: @Harbinger
  265. I once heard of a saying about Jewish immigration: “None is too many”. Indeed.

  266. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @nebulafox

    No.

    This is to make people relate, so that it doesn’t look too alien. The problem is that people steal a religion, and then make it look like their own, and then forget where it came from and twist it and use it against those who created it.

  267. Harbinger says:
    @The Dark Night

    The patronising ‘dear’………

    Firstly, I have replied to you once, which was after your initial reply to me, so therefore I never called you a liar. My first reply, on this article’s comment section was to ‘The Dark Night’. So you’re either lying or also post as the Dark Night. Which is it?

    Secondly the online versions of the Talmud have been deliberately changed so as to not show the true passages, about the non Jews.

    Hoffman’s Judaism Discovered represents years of scholarship, working with the Steinsaltz edition of the Talmud, the Soncino Talmud, and other Aramaic translations. They have not been refuted. They CANNOT be refuted.

    On an interesting note, upon looking at the online version of the Talmud, I did not see the word ‘goi/goy’ but instead the word gentile. This is clear evidence that the Talmuds, online, have been changed.

    Someone’s lying here Sagi. Either Jews are lying or Hoffman’s lying. Considering that Jews are renowned for deceit, throughout history; considering that the Kol Nidre prayer allows Jews to perjure themselves in court, break contracts and break all promises for the coming year, then I hate to have to state but it’s clear, to all, who the liars are doesn’t it?
    The online versions of the Talmud have been ‘cleaned up’, that is they’ve been deliberately changed in order to deceive non Jews even more.

    It’s really that simple Sagi Harare, I am, openly calling you and Judaism liars and a religion of lying (amongst many other things).

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  268. I wish the Romans had been less pragmatic and more empirical in their approach. 70 A.D. could have been decisive.

  269. anarchyst says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    As a pre-Vatican II “ecumenical council” Catholic, I observed first-hand the mistaken absolution of the jews for the crucifixion and death of Jesus Christ by those jews and protestants who had a say in the changes in Catholic doctrine brought on by this misguided “ecumenical council”.
    Instead of holding true to Catholic values, the Church was “judaized” and “protestantized” to its detriment. In fact, the Catholic Church even prohibited the “old practices” until the backlash by SSPX and other traditionalist Catholic movements gained strength.

  270. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @Harbinger

    You have called me a liar again. And again you don’t bother to prove it. This is often a way a coward acts. Face to face you wouldn’t do that, would you?

    Look, when I stumbled upon some of these books, such as Judaism Discovered, and these sites for the first time about ten years ago I was shocked. And I trusted them. And I started a blog – to tell people about that. And one person put me in a situation when I had to argue, and I couldn’t win an argument. He managed to show I was wrong. He was knowledgeable.

    And that forced me to begin searching in the sources, and I found soon enough that most of what people write in these books are lies, though lies based on thruth. Not unlike a caricature. Twisted and grotesque.

    So I took my time and found all of these quotations. Trust me, all of them are there. And I debunked them all, and this is why I speak with such confidence about that. I know what I am talking about and I can prove it to anybody.

    I heard that Michael Hoffman spent 10 years on his book, but his scholarship doesn’t impress me at all. Except for his classic English there’s nothing that points at his supposed intellectual attainments. He included some pictures of some pages in Hebrew and Aramaic, but can he read it?

    I can, and I think he cannot. Bring him here and I will put his head on a spike. He is a liar.

    I remember his book: he is taking phrases out of a polemic and presents them as predicates, he is twisting words to make it look sinister, he uses references from some pamphlets which point to non-existing books, and his commentaries are sophistic and misleading.

    The Talmud is the hardest book to read I’ve ever come across. Jews study it one page per day and it takes seven years to complete – this is how complicated it is, because it’s a book of discussions. Logic.

    And if someone takes a phrase out of a discussion and presents it as a statement, a premise as a conclusion, than he is a liar and a manipulator, and an idiot too. The same as those who think that if in some of these discussions rabbis are talking about excrements, that is because they are obsessed with it!

    How stupid can a man be? A lot of these discussions are logical exercises, abstract and absurd, which are meant to train tolerance and to teach students to think. That’s the reason there are such strange topics sometimes.

    Learn to think too, Harbinger. You are not supposed to see the word “goi” in a translation beause this is the Hebrew word for gentile.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Harbinger
  271. Alden says:
    @nebulafox

    Sure you aren’t confusing the Byzantine Empire with the Holy Roman Empire and the Hapsburgs with the Palalogoses or Constantine’s creating the Western and Eastern Roman Empire which most historians call the Byzantine Empire ? The Russian Orthodox Church claimed Moscow was the New Rome at one time.

    If you want to call the Byzantine Empire Rome and not make a distinction between Ancient Rome in west central Italy and the Byzantine Empire whose Capitol was Constantinople, Moscow and The Holy Roman Empire whose Capitol was Vienna it’s fine with me.

    The first Arab Muslim invasions 650 AD took the MENA half of the Byzantine or as you call it, the Roman Empire whatever you want to call it.

  272. Alden says:
    @nebulafox

    Are you familiar with the hymn Last Mass in Santa Sophia? It was sung the evening of the day the walls were first smashed by the Turkish cannon. Next day they occupied the city.

  273. Alden says:
    @Talha

    Yuck. Supposedly Romans Chinese Italian Indian other peoples had plates and bowls with porn pictures in the bottom. The dishes were served full of food. Big joke on the guests when they finished the food and the picture was revealed. .

    Big joke ha ha ha.

    • LOL: Talha
    • Replies: @Seraphim
  274. @The Dark Night

    Your point is completely irrelevant.

    Europeans adopted the religion of Jesus Christ who the Jews repudiated.

    And I was referring to texts generally, not a religious text. Although it’s pretty interesting that you would regard writings of Pagan ritual as non-religious text. Viking and Roman and Greek pagan mysticism themed material written by men is no different to the Talmud.

    Your entire nonsensical point hinges on the claim that Jesus Christ is a Jewish religious figure instead of repudiated by the Jews. Jesus Christ is most emphatically and resoundingly NOT a Jewish religious figure.

    And I’ve given you screeds of material from Jews of far greater credentials then you, probably some squat Lebo in Melbourne, observing that the idea you are stating – that Jesus Christ is a Jewish religious figure and his teachings Jewish religion is insultingly stupid.

    The fact Jesus was a Jew doesn’t mean that his works constitute Jewish religion. They don’t. You rejected your messiah, now you serve the god of this world, and all the gods and goddesses of your pagan religion.

    What you write is unmitigated bilge.

    Feel free to keep commenting and kvetching and ignoring.

  275. Alden says:
    @The Dark Night

    The 1890’s Protocols I read didn’t have anything like what you posted as from the Protocols. It was an old book in the locked forbidden books section of a university library.

    I had to make an appointment and bring both dr license and current utility bill as proof of address. And of course sign in; name dob dr license # address and phone number.

    The 4th protocol was affirmative action, something jewish attorneys established through pressure on congress and their puppets Hubert Humphrey and Lyndon Johnson and several lawsuits litigated by Jewish lawyers, just like Brown vs Topeka

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  276. Alden says:
    @The Dark Night

    Pretty sure all the apostles are saints. Another Jew decides to convince us to repent, confess, bow down to Jews and support Israel.

    Blah blah blah

  277. @The Dark Night

    Yes, it is.

    You are absolutely surreal.

    Again, on this website Unz has showed that Jewish representation in the Ivy League is 1000% of Jewish recipience of National Merit Awards.

    And Theodore Beale has obliterated the quaint notion of the 115 average IQ. So yes, it is.

    You don’t have to block me. No one cares about Jewish lawyering to say that Jewish texts actually say the opposite of what they mean.

    I showed you that pornography is so Jewish that the New York Times actually wrote a story saying calls for abstinence and boycott of porn were anti-semitic. It’s hilarious. Jews know what they know.

    And you’ve ignored every single point except to rejoinder with a nonsensical point – that Jesus Christ and his teachings constitute Jewish religion. They don’t, they never have and never will.

    Europeans had their own mystical traditions, and then they accepted the teachings of Jesus Christ which the Jews rejected. The fact Jesus was a Jewish doesn’t mean his teachings constitute Jewish religion – because Jew’s repudiated Christ.

    And your nonsensical and bizarre attempt to claim otherwise, I’ve demonstrated is ridiculous simply by citing what Jews have said about the idea of ‘Judeo-Christianity’.

    You are a poltroon and a charlatan.

    And yes, Jews are going to attempt to make as many kids homosexual & transgender as they possibly can.

    https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/03/20/nancy-pelosis-equality-act-would-be-disastrous-here-are-5-likely-victim-groups/

    https://www.washingtonblade.com/2019/05/17/in-first-house-approves-equality-act-to-ban-comprehensively-lgbt-discrimination/

    That’s what the Equality Act does.

    And here, because ‘every time’ is the National Council of Jewish Women – demanding my support for the en masse homosexualisation of American youth.

    https://www.ncjw.org/act/action/support-the-equality-act/

    So yes – you’re right. Your women at least want a proliferation of homosexuality, maybe so the US is as queer as Israel, queer capital of the world.

  278. @The Dark Night

    It’s always funny how jews can’t suppress their venom towards white christians long enough to even finish making the claim that white christians mistakenly think jews hate them.

    It’s like they’re all constantly in some kind of secret cry out as they strike you competition.

  279. Alden says:
    @The Dark Night

    You didn’t read a print version in a major research library did you? You just googled, clipped and pasted. I don’t remember anything about the press in the one I read published in the 1890’s

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  280. @The Dark Night

    Yet all of their gentile cultural foundation is Jewish: all the books, all the heroes, all the saints, all the ideas.

    You sure about that? Here’s SAINT John Chrysostom a hero of the early church, a saint in both orthodox and catholic traditions, and the inspired writer of the very liturgy that orthodox and eastern catholics celebrate to this day…

    Many, I know, respect the Jews and think that their present way of life is a venerable one. This is why I hasten to uproot and tear out this deadly opinion. I said that the synagogue is no better than a theater and I bring forward a prophet as my witness. Surely the Jews are not more deserving of belief than their prophets. “You had a harlot’s brow; you became shameless before all”. Where a harlot has set herself up, that place is a brothel. But the synagogue is not only a brothel and a theater; it also is a den of robbers and a lodging for wild beasts. Jeremiah said: “Your house has become for me the den of a hyena”. He does not simply say “of wild beast”, but “of a filthy wild beast”, and again: “I have abandoned my house, I have cast off my inheritance”. But when God forsakes a people, what hope of salvation is left? When God forsakes a place, that place becomes the dwelling of demons.

    But at any rate the Jews say that they, too, adore God. God forbid that I say that. No Jew adores God! Who say so? The Son of God say so. For he said: “If you were to know my Father, you would also know me. But you neither know me nor do you know my Father”. Could I produce a witness more trustworthy than the Son of God?

    http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/chrysostom_adversus_judaeos_01_homily1.htm

    Doesn’t sound quite kosher to me…

  281. Alden says:
    @The Dark Night

    The descendants of the people who built stone hedge the oldest town in the world discovered so far and numerous versions of stone hedge all over what’s now Britian and France still live in Europe.

    It’s the Egyptians who built the pyramids who are gone. There is no ancient Egyptian DNA to be found in Egyptians now.

    The only difference between the ancient Celtic reaper and the ones used today is horsepower and internal combustion power.

    It’s always fun to refute ignorant Jews who presume to lecture me about history. You all know only the most superficial and conventional politically correct ideas. Please do me a favor and don’t insult me with a Wikipedia link.

  282. Seraphim says:
    @Talha

    The expected sliding into victimization mode.

    • Replies: @Talha
  283. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @Harbinger

    You are laughable. Not me. You, Michael Hoffman and H. Makow – the three little pigs, talking about the Wolf.

    “On Yom Kippur, the infamous Kol Nidrei prayer is recited, almost always explained away to the public as a blessed ceremony of begging God for forgiveness for oaths that were violated, contracts that were broken and promises that were not kept in the past year. The trouble is, that pious picture is a phony.” – Michael Hoffman

    He is a complete fool if he doesn’t understand that he is mistaken, but I think he understands what he is doing. He is a liar.

    He goes on there: “In truth, Kol Nidrei is a ceremony whereby all the perjury you will commit in the coming year and all contracts you will sign and violate in the coming year, and all the promises you will break in the coming year are absolved, with no heavenly punishment accruing as a result.”

    And here is how it is: “All vows, and prohibitions, and oaths, and consecrations” – not contracts or promises – “all of them are undone, abandoned, cancelled, null and void, not in force, and not in effect.”

    This means that if a man took a vow, for example a vow of silence, or a vow of fasting, then on this night of atonement, the night of Yom Kippur, he can free himself from his vow. He is no longer obliged to keep it.

    These vows and prohibitions, and oaths and consecrations are made to God. And on the night of atonement a Jew wants to atone. He wants to make amends. This is what the ritual is for. Secular promises to people and contracts are not these vows.

    But let’s get back to Michael Hoffman. “The Talmudic law concerning the Kol Nidrei rite is as follows: he who desires that none of his vows made during the year shall be valid can stand at the beginning of the year and declare, ‘Every vow which I make in the future shall be null.’ – Nedarim 23b”

    This is for people who, like me, often say things like “I promise,” “I swear” and so on. For a Jew a phrase like this becomes an oath and he has to keep it, or else God will punish him for talking too much. So such a person can proclaim, in front of people and God that he cannot keep promises.

    But Michael Hoffman goes on: “This corresponds to the Talmudic lesson that God rewards clever liars,” and he refers to Kallah 51a. Here is this treatise, it is called Hallah. His spelling shows his scholarship, as well as his reference to a phrase that isn’t there and cannot be – the whole treatise is about making ceremonial bread, which is called challah. This is how he lies.

    And the funniest about it is that a Jew could do the same, and be much more persuasive. But Jews don’t do such idiotic things! For example I could, following Michael Hoffman’s reasoning, accuse Christians of all kinds of wickedness on account of their practice of confession.

    And I wouldn’t even have to lie too much to do that, because Christians indeed confess to a priest who then “forgives” them their sins. So Christians can sin again and confess again. “Father, forgive me, I am a porn addict.”

  284. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @Alden

    You remember it all? Outstanding!

  285. Talha says:
    @Seraphim

    That too. What else would anyone expect?

  286. Seraphim says:
    @Alden

    No one refers to the Byzantines as Romans, except the… ‘Byzantines’!
    They called themselves ‘Ῥωμαῖοι/Romaioi’, citizens of the Βασιλεία τῶν Ῥωμαίων/Basileia tōn Rhōmaiōn=the Empire of the Romans.

  287. @The Dark Night

    There is no confluence.

    1) It’s not ‘Christians’ it’s Catholics only.

    2) There is no comparison:

    You are talking about a prospective universal expiation for all future wrongdoing. Catholics have to confess specific sins, in nature and quantity, and defects, in retrospect after an examination of conscience.

    The Catholic confession is about admission of guilt before holy tribunal.

    The Jewish tradition you refer to is about the non-admission of guilt via subterfuge by chicken.

    Catholic confession requires systematic examination of conscience. This Jewish chicken ceremony is about the abrogation of conscience entirely.

    Confession is about truth – absent a truthful confession it is of no effect. Grace is only confirmed by comprehensiveness, sincereity, and fidelity to penance. Grace can at any time be withdrawn for repeat offenders who treat the confessional cynically.

    The Jewish chicken ceremony is about lies – lying to yourself that you can no sin with impunity because the chicken did it.

    Confession actually has a secular utility, apart from it’s sacramental effects. It is a form of literal and psychological exorcism via human contact.

    Confession actually requires serious effort and inconvenience and discipline. Putting future sins in a Chicken is about relinquishing all pretensions of discipline. ‘The Chicken did it Jesus’.

    It also sounds like an echo of the Sabbatean Frankists and their philosophy of immorality.

    The Jews and their Chicken sounds more like Legion imposing himself on the pigs.

    Even confessional penance itself has to be unified with love of God or it is imperfect and ineffectual. And they used to be serious. I’ll freely admit today it’s often nominal. But the same principals apply nonetheless. And very serious sins have extra aspects from the Catechism where penance may in fact require admission and self-surrender to civil authorities.

    It sounds as though as long as you spin the chicken correctly the nature of the future wrongs being sanitised in the present doesn’t matter.

    You would have absolutely zero prospect of being able to compare confession to the Jewish chicken imbuing noble ceermony. Because there is no comparison.

    Feel free to try. It will be very amusing.

    Imagine comparing prospective pardon for all future sins with confession/admission of actual committed sins and the requirement of real contrition and penance.

    The Jew would spin around his chicken and say “Chicken, this year I am going to sex traffic 500 girls from the Balkans and take them to a Jeffrey Epstein child-rape party, thank-you, Chicken, for doing this for me, mwah”.

    You could not even attempt to argue that confession is anything like this ‘Kol Nidrei’.

  288. anon[137] • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    absolutely false the only reason european nationalism have take this dark colours is because all of you have made a positive european natinalism imposible and made europeans the scapegoat of everything wrong happening in this world.

    europeans nationalists(the sane one at least)love our own people more than we hate jews or other ethnicities but sometimes the hate is overhelming toward the ones that bann any natural afection toward our people and culture.

    and this another good one masking your insane will to power as a candid and overprotective teacher that only want the best for their students.

    if you love a bird dont cut her wings for his own savety he wont be a bird anymore.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  289. Seraphim says:
    @Alden

    ‘Kama-Sutra’ anyone? Khanjuraho? ‘Lazzat Un Nisa(Arabic: لذّتُ النّسا‎ The Pleasure of Woman) – in Urdu? ‘The Perfumed Garden of Sensual Delight’ (Arabic: الروض العاطر في نزهة الخاطر‎ Al-rawḍ al-ʿāṭir fī nuzhaẗ al-ḫāṭir)?

  290. tac says:
    @Harbinger

    such as the many blatant lies written about the holocaust, Jews have lied about. The Jew has managed, in one fell swoop to turn a lie into a truth because if you believe in something, so much, then it can be true.

    It is much worst than you think. These lies are compounded published and reinforced by many layers of propaganda. It truly takes some hard work to break through the many layers of deceit.

    In a nutshell, just about everything we were lead to believe from the past (especially wars), is either a fabrication, omission, embellishment, or an outright lie!

    I’ve provided many links here, and hopefully some have examined them and then came to their own conclusions. Here are just some (video links):

    [MORE]

    GAS CHAMBER EXPERT DEBUNKS THE HOLOCAUST IN LESS THAN SIX MINUTES:


    ADOLF HITLER – THE MAN WHO FOUGHT THE BANK:


    ADOLF HITLER AND THE GERMAN PEOPLE (extended version of previous video):


    BENJAMIN FREEDMAN – WHY HITLER HATED THE JEWS [DUTCH SUBS]:


    JOSEPH GOEBBELS – THE JEWISH PROBLEM:
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/5xdIMAGvsTf0/

    • Replies: @Harbinger
  291. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @Alden

    The English translation was published in 1919. And I can find the same quotations in the 1903 Russian version.

    Look, it is impossible to fake a fake like this one. The text of the Protocols follows the text of the Dialogues from start to finish. Even the order of these “protocols” matches up. I think people don’t want to admit it because that means to admit being a fool. Right?

    Protocol 1: “What I am about to set forth, then, is our system from the two points of view, that of ourselves and that of the goyim. It must be noted that men with bad instincts are more in number than the good, and therefore the best results in governing them are attained by violence and terrorization, and not by academic discussions.

    Dialogue 1: “Here is how I formulate my system and I doubt that you can weaken it, because it is only made up of deductions from moral and political facts of an eternal truth: bad instincts among men are more powerful than the good ones. Man has more enthusiasm for evil than for good; fear and force have more control over him than reason.”

    Protocol 1: “Every man aims at power, everyone would like to become a dictator if only he could, and rare indeed are the men who would not be willing to sacrifice the welfare of all for the sake of securing their own welfare.”

    Dialogue 1: “All men aspire to domination and there is none who would not be an oppressor if he could; all or almost all are ready to sacrifice the rights of others for their own interests.”

    Protocol 1: “What has restrained the beasts of prey who are called men? What has served for their guidance hitherto? In the beginnings of the structure of society they were subjected to brutal and blind force; afterwards – to Law, which is the same force, only disguised. I draw the conclusion that by the law of nature right lies in force. Political freedom is an idea but not a fact.”

    Dialogue 1: “What restrains the devouring animals that one calls men? At the origin of society, there was brutal and unchecked force; later it was the law, that is to say, force still, ruled by forms. You have consulted all the sources of history; everywhere force appears before rights. Political liberty is only a relative idea; the necessity to live is what dominates the States as well as individuals.”

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Alden
  292. Seraphim says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    The ‘Aryan’ Jesus is the flip side of Jesus the ‘Jew’. He was neither ‘Aryan’, nor ‘Jew’:
    “For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. 19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. 20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? 21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. 22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; 24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God. 25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men” (1 Corinthians 1:18-25).

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  293. anon[137] • Disclaimer says:
    @nebulafox

    the extermination of the entire elite muslim army that controlled all the muslim world made the control of the provinces imposible once it was gone the caliphate broke in mil peaces making any attempt to conquer bizantines imposible ;in fact only 150 years after the siege of constantinople bizantines started making territorial gains in their eastern frontier .
    like i said after the massacre of 717 not only didnt reclaim bizantines but no other region either due to the devastating lose and posterior fragmentation they suffered.

    i dont know why are you trying to deny the evident ,are you iranian?

  294. anon[137] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Dark Night

    nobody believe you anymore jew N O B O D Y

  295. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @Flint Clint

    See how many arguments you can find to protect your own ilk. Too bad you are unable to look at others with at least half of this and try to understand them. Hatred rules in your heart son and ignorance in your head. This is not what Jesus taught.

    But since you keep sending to me these long idiotic comments, perhaps you in such a strange manner are trying to make a contact of some kind? I can give you another chance then. But this time watch your language. One disrespectful phrase and I’m done with you. For real.

    And speaking of chickens – this is a magical ritual. There’s nothing good about it and it isn’t Jewish. But people do it, the Sephardic Jews do it and some of the others too because they learned it in the countries where they used to live. Like Morocco. There a lot of people do such things. However this ritual isn’t Jewish. Kol Nidrei is and it doesn’t include chickens.

    So when a Jew is singing Kol Nidrei he is talking to God and not to a man, as Christians do. How can a man give another man absolution for sins? This idea is blasphemous, and taking into account the moral and spiritual situation of the priests, about which we know from the newspapers and TV I think the idea of a confession is diabolical: examination of conscience is good but to forgive a sin a man has to become God. You can’t talk to God through a man. Understand?

    And indeed if he gives you absolution and you accept it – from a man, as if he is God – this is a fraud. And perhaps this is the reason for your such a miserable mental state. Perhaps you were born into this false religion and for this reason you can’t see anything bad in it, but it’s bad.

    Kol Nidrei doesn’t free you from your sins. Confession creates an illusion that it does. Kol Nidrei can be recited once in a year. Confession is possible many times in a year. Thus the feelings of guilt and shame which lead to repentance are eradicated and a man is left with his sins and without remorse; this leads to his spiritual degradation and blindness.

    And it could be because of this that Christians are unable to understand that a religion which burnes and tortures people is evil, and twice as evil because it presents itself as the teaching of love and peace, while it has been responsible for more wars and bloodshed than any other. And since Christians think they have nothing to worry about – because God is waiting for them in the booth, and he forgives all sins at whatever time, so why bother – Christians are so wicked.

    “Father, I’ve sinned again. Forgive me!” The priest: “No problem, son. That’s not your fault – it’s the Jews.”

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
    , @Alden
  296. geokat62 says:
    @The Dark Night

    How stupid can a man be? A lot of these discussions are logical exercises, abstract and absurd, which are meant to train tolerance and to teach students to think. That’s the reason there are such strange topics sometimes.

    A previous comment I posted here at UR:

    [MORE]

    This one’s for my favourite PEAbrain and his peeps.

    Came across this incredible video:

    It’s called What’s in the Talmud pt1. It was made by a Jewish woman who believes Jeshua is the true messiah.

    Now, the ADL, SPLC and others are busy trying to convince people that The Dumb Goyim are haters, guilty of white supremacism for wishing to preserve their European and European-derived homelands with European-stock majorities. Well, this incredible lady violated the commandment against women reading the Talmud to disclose what real supremacism looks like. These people are preparing the restoration of the Third Temple to rule over The Dumb Goyim under the 7 Noahide Laws… you can’t get more supremacist than this! … and they have the Chutzpah to accuse us of hate and supremacism? Talk about projection.

    Here are some of the most pertinent excerpts from pt1:

    @1917
    If you read the Talmud…and I broke the commandment of Talmud because I’m a woman and I dared to study it. Now, of course, I didn’t study all 6,000 pages but I went through very many pages in English which is actually watered down Talmud… because if you read it in… Hebrew they don’t like to share that one with the world with the true translations because you would be horrified. So they kind of water it down with little English language so it doesn’t sound that quite bad, you know?…

    Christian men are not considered men, rather animal. That’s what I found out, these are my notes, few things I jot down when I was studying… Talmud. Christians are idolaters therefore deserving of death. Christians are unclean beasts. Intercourse of Christians are like that of beasts. Christians were created to serve… and Gentiles, in general, goyim… were created to serve all Jews. Souls of Christians and souls of gentiles originates in evil spirits. Jewish soul is divine…

    In Israel, there is a group that is directly financed by Benjamin Netanyahu. Benjamin Netanyahu pays lot of money and salary to a group called Yav la’chaim and that group has one purpose only… to look for Jews who believe Yeshua is messiah. And when they find them, they harass them. Ok? So, imagine that and remember even Benjamin Netanyahu tells you that you are his friends. That we need Christians from America. Really? What a hypocrite. What he means? He needs your money and your support. So, you send your boys and your girls to fight his wars. That’s what he means… not that he’s your friend. In fact, he’s been heard to say that Christians in America are useful idiots. And then he will use you until he can and then they will drop you, once you’re of no use anymore. And that’s the real truth… I came here to tell you the truth

    Now, let’s continue. Alright, what does Talmud teaches about Christians and gentiles… it is not a sin to kill a Christian. Even the best of goyim should be killed. Make no agreements with Christians. It is ok to behead Christian on a sabbath. Now, you’re going to find out in the Talmud beheading is like a favourite thing… It’s a law of the Talmud to behead the apostates. Extermination of Christians is necessary sacrifice (that one is in Zohar, particularly). Those who do not believe Torah, or Talmud actually, must be killed. Jews who convert to Christianity must be put to death. It is no sin to lie and deceive a Christian…

    God created non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by the beast… non-Jew is, therefore, a human animal, condemned to serve the Jew, day and night.

    This is a link for Part 2:

    https://www.patreon.com/posts/part-2-of-what-23254641

    So, my challenge to the PEAbrain is to view these two videos and not come away being convinced that he and his peeps are being played for the useful idiots they are.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @The Dark Night
  297. Harbinger says:
    @The Dark Night

    You initially came at me with two claims.
    Firstly that the Protocols were a forgery of Maurice Joly’s “Dialogue in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu” (1864).
    Secondly that the writings of peoples, such as Michael Hoffman, amongst others, are lies and deceptions when it comes to, in this instance, the Babylonian Talmud and the festival of Yom Kippur, most notably the Kol Niedre prayer.

    Now, the problem we have here is that not only are the Protocols NOT a plagiaraization of Marice Joly’s book, but most of what the Protocols have stated have come into effect, proving they are very true.
    As for the Babylonian Talmud, I have gone to the Sepharia Talmud online and I have found, in various searches nothing of what Hoffman and others, have stated of the Talmud. However, is it possible that this version has been greatly altered? Is it possible that thousands of Sayanim have been working every hour of the day to change most of the hateful comments written within? Of course and overwhelmingly so.

    Now, why would a Jew, Henry Makow, on one side spend his life speaking of a Jewish conspiracy, calling out the Talmud, questioning the holocaust (although not disagreeing there was an extermination order), attacking the likes of Barbara Spectre and of course exposing the Rothschilds and the crimes of Zionists for it all to simply be lies and anti Semitism?

    If I ever do a search on something ‘anti Jewish’, in this case the protocols, I’ll come up with pages of searches that call it out being a lie, by various Jewish organisations and of course Jewish owned western media. I’ll find the same with the Talmud and with the holocaust. This is blatant search engine manipulation which has the desired effect of deceiving those doing the searching. It deceives them because they’ll automatically think: “well, there’s lots of websites which denounce it as lies and anti Semitism, many of those are main stream media sites and from professors of renowned education institutions so they must be telling the truth”.

    The holocaust is a lie, a blatant lie continually being promoted in TV, Hollywood and the msm, throwing into shows as much reference to Hitler and the Third Reich as they possibly can. The constant promotion of non Jewish hatred towards Jews HAS to be kept to the forefront of all dialogue. The lie must be continually promoted.
    Take the latest scandal, here in the UK, of Tommy Robinson, who took thousands worth of donations, to make an exposé on the grooming gangs of Rotherham and corruption within the media and when people gathered to see this, instead of what they expected on Rotherham, they saw the words ‘Shalom’ and a documentary of anti Semitism in the UK, about some old man, now dead, who’d faced persecution. Oh vey…..
    Again, forget about the rape, torture and murder of the thousands of young, female, gentiles and the subsequent suffering of their families. Jewish suffering is more important, one Jewish man’s suffering trumps the rape and murder of thousands of non Jewish women.

    I have written to Michael Hoffman and I will expect a reply from him, although I am most likely to find that again, more Jewish lies have been thrown out to stop the truth from being exposed.

    The biggest problem I have with the Jews is that there are so many lies, of the Jews that Jews continue to promote as truths, when the inevitability is the truth will come out and their lives will be in jeopardy. It is vital, for example, that the powers that be, continue to promote the Protocols as a Lie, because the bottom line is, were it to come out, worldwide, that the Jews, seek to destroy the non Jewish world, murdering 95% of the world’s population, how do you think the world’s Jewish people will fair against a very, very angry non Jewish mob, totalling in their billions?
    The life of the Jew will mean diddly squat. All the lies of the Jews will come tumbling out and it will be Zyklon B and ovens all over again, just this time THEY WILL USE Zyklon B and ovens to extinguish the world of the Jewish population.

    I will finish simply by stating that there is a colossal difference in the mindset of the non Jew, compared to the Jew. Wrongs that have been committed by non Jews, against whomever, the perpetrators are hunted down and brought to justice. On the contrary, those Jews who have committed many wrongs against non Jews are not just ignored, but protected when their wrongs are come to light. It is this, justice, which distinguishes the non Jew from the Jew. The Jew will always rally to protect the member of their tribe, from being exposed for their wrongdoing. You only hear of their crimes, when they’re dead.

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  298. anonymous[299] • Disclaimer says:
    @geokat62

    Haven’t seen Adam Green’s KnowMoreNews lately.
    Is he still active?

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  299. geokat62 says:
    @anonymous

    Is he still active?

    Yes, his YT channel is still up.

    He posted this video 3 days ago:

  300. @Flint Clint

    ChuckOrloski posted a video of Bruce Springsteen performing Tom Joad. I hadn’t known much about Springsteen, so when I got back from seeing the HD transmission of Zeffirelli’s Turandot (live from the Met!)

    I did some research — Springsteen is a very interesting guy; his early Dancing in the Dark was sexual energy squared — Bless me father, for I

    About 40 years later he performed for what looked like half of London — not a sexual display that time, but the crowd was wild and knew every word:
    “I look in the mirror, wanna change my clothes, my hair, my face”
    In his early version, he tapped teen-age angst, I think, and the older London crowd remembered that someone understood the difficulty of growing up.
    Then, in the London performance, he danced with his mother, “The Boss.”

    In biographical sketches Springsteen says he’s not a practicing Catholic but still Catholic in a fundamental way — when you’re raised Catholic you can never really “get shed of it,” as they used to say down home. I get that.

    He also said that after living in California for some years he moved back home to New Jersey.
    He’s been married to the home-town girl whose been part of his musical work & his life for 30+ years.
    The importance of roots and Belonging.


    About that Confession thing — and to anarchyst: Agree, Vatican II was next best, or worst, thing to a schism; Vatican II Catholicism is meaningless to me. It’s hollow. I don’t know if Confession is the same as it was pre-Vat II, but at that time, it was not a Get Out of Jail free card, as Saggy Pants suggests in #288. Confession had several essential parts:
    Confess sins (develop an awareness of the ways in which you are not living up to your full humanity)

    Do penance — esp. if you have wronged others: try to make up for it, even if it’s just an acknowledgement To Them that you recognize that you have harmed them & regret it.

    Repent — “think again”– become your own best therapist
    Took the car in for oil-change the other day — last slot on the schedule, so the mechanic had been on the job for 7 or 8 hours. He was enormously upbeat! I asked him how he managed to be so cheerful after a long day. He said he used to have a negative attitude, then he thought about it and decided it made no sense to be negative, it made him a better person to be positive. So he made the decision to be positive. He changed his life.
    Confession — as said above, me & organized Catholicism haven’t been on good terms, but I get the oil changed every couple months, and I’ll go back to that mechanic every time I can. He’s an inspiration.

    Amend life — occasionally, just every so often, amending one’s life is not a once-n-done deal, it’s the work of a lifetime to uproot bad habits and become more fully human — more completely what god intended you to become.

    PS Chuck, you are far too generous — S2C knows so little about music but I’m enjoying learning and love the spectacle and the Italian-ness of opera.
    Heh — Turandot by Puccini — the story is Persian, transformed by Italian librettists into a Chinese setting performed (in yesterday’s version) by Azerbaijani Yusif Eyvazov singing the male lead.

    • Agree: Iris
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  301. Vetran says:
    @Alden

    Why not just kill them in Tunisia and Morocco?Why bother shipping them all the way to N Europe.?
    Good question. Likewise with French jews. Why to deport them to Germany or Eastern Europe, when killing them right on the spot in France would had been more efficient from a logistical point of view.
    I am not really well versed into the Irving/Faurisson & Co works, but one can assume the camps where jews were deported were labour camps (Arbeit Mach Frei, anyone?) in order to feed the Nazi MIC that was certainly much in demand for labourers/slaves.
    I think the majority of those who perished in these camps died of starvation (the survivors were skeletons likes), exhaustion, cold, epidemics … not murdered.
    The Haaretz article from @utu indicates that Vichy’s rulings were implemented at least in Algeria (as a French département it had a different status than the protectorate monarchies of Morocco and Tunisia), although it mention persecutions but not deportation.
    But as @utu points out, if there is money to be made…

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    , @anarchyst
  302. AaronB says:
    @anon

    Well, if you visit Jewish nationalist sites there just isn’t this hatred of other peoples, hispsnics, blacks, etc. It is mostly focused on how awesome Jews are, with maybe an occasional dig at the violence and animal like behavior of contemporary Arabs, and maybe a dig at the Germans of fifty years ago. Sure, there’s lots of nutty talk about how superior Jews are, and some bashing of Arabs because they are in a war, etc.

    Similarly, I’ve spoken with various Asian and Hispanic nationalists, and sure, they go on about how superior they are, etc, and maybe bash mildly other peoples.

    But even in this site, white nationalists are preoccupied with intense hatred of everyone else in a way that no one else is. Nazi Germany did not spring out of thin air – it was just a clearer than average form of typical European white nationalism.

    And this is a serious problem.

    Now I am not one of those who think that since white nationalism has always taken a uniquely virulent form it should be outlawed. But it definitely needs correction by more mature and balanced races.

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    • Replies: @anon
    , @Harbinger
  303. Iris says:
    @Vetran

    I am not really well versed into the Irving/Faurisson & Co works

    Robert Faurisson did not deny in any way the deportation and internment of entire European Jewish communities, including their children.

    What he set to do, and managed to achieve very successfully in his works, was proving that the “gas chambers” could not have existed as we are told they did, as there was no such facilities available in the “extermination camps2, and that they could not have operated the way we are told they did.

    What he convincingly put into question is the alleged, systematic, Nazi genocidal policy of “final solution”.

    Robert Faurisson was very much influenced by Paul Rassinier, the “father of French revisionists”. A Resistant, Paul Rassinier was arrested, terribly tortured and deported to Birkenau, then Dora.
    He authored a harrowing memoir of his imprisonment in the concentration camps, “Le mensonge d’Ulysse“, in quality far above the hogwash produced by con artists such as Elie Wiesel. Far from showing any “Nazi specific evil”, his story proves that evil was in everybody, including some fellow inmates. His memoir is a powerful pro-freedom, anti-war plea.

    http://ww.w.aredam.net/PRmu%5B1%5D.pdf

    Rassinier stated that there was no gas chamber in Birkenau or Dora.
    Jews in the camp are only randomly mentioned in his memoir, and not because of any particular treatment inflicted upon them. When his book was published in 1950’s, when war memories were still fresh, this controversial opinion did not raise any protestations, proving that the “Holocaust” narrative came to life only much later.

    • Replies: @Vetran
  304. Re. the very first sentence: maybe it’s not an act.

  305. anarchyst says:
    @Vetran

    There was no “holocaust” and I can prove it…

    So if “the holocaust” is thoroughly documented, why do all the documents show that it never happened?

    All of the German camp documents were stored at Bad Aralson since the end of the war. The Red Cross/ITS was the agency charged with controlling these records at Bad Aralson.

    [MORE]

    In 1985, 40 years after the war, Dr Charles Beiderman was the head of the Red Cross/ITS, Beiderman was called to testify at the Zundel trial for the prosecution. Beiderman testified that QUOTE as of December 31, 1983, the total number of deaths registered with the Special Registry Office and various other registry offices was 373,468.

    There is NOT ONE DOCUMENT outlining any extermination plan for jews or others. In fact, prominent Zionists collaborated with the German government and formulated plans at the highest level of the German government for the transfer of jews to what was then known as Palestine. Absolutely nothing was noted or recorded about extermination.

    In fact, population totals pre-WW2 and post-WW2 show an INCREASE in the jewish population in post-WW2 Europe immediately after the cessation of the war.

    If a country were hell-bent on genocide, WHY WOULD IT KEEP RECORDS?? WHY would it build camps hundreds (if not thousands) of miles away with sanitary facilities, housing, medical, recreational and other ancillary facilities? Would it not have been easier to just “eliminate” them without going through all of this trouble? Why would they expend massive effort on logistical movement utilizing their limited energy resources if the goal was extermination?

    Things do not add up.

    Something BIG stinks in this whole jewish holocaust deal. It is no secret that jewish Zionists made deals with the German government in order to make life uncomfortable for jewish Germans.

    In fact, it was jewish Zionist leaders who first proposed that all jews wear the yellow Star of David armband so that they could be easily identified. German jews considered themselves Germans first and had no desire to emigrate.

    The establishment of a homeland along with the 6,000,000 figure was a Zionist dream since the 1800s. Many periodicals of the day starting with the 1800s touted the “six-million” figure.

    What better way to encourage emigration to a foreign land than to make things difficult for the cream of German society (jews)?? The TRUTH about the so-called jewish holocaust is out . . .

    As cremation of ONE human body takes hours, the amount of time claimed by holocaust promoters is a physical, scientific and statistical impossibility. Their claims also do not account for the “downtime” that crematoria require for maintenance, etc. In addition, there are no mass burial sites that are commensurate with the claims of “six-million” or even “one-million”.

    There is also a jewish prohibition on excavation of claimed possible burial sites. WHY?? Because THEY DO NOT EXIST.

    There is even a prohibition on the use of ground penetrating radar to search for burial sites. WHY??

    If millions were gassed and cremated, the activities would have lasted well into the 1950s.

    The so-called jewish holocaust has been turned into a de-facto religion in which no deviation from orthodoxy is permitted. In fact, in most European countries, independent investigation into jewish holocaust truths is strictly forbidden under pain of fines and imprisonment.

    In the USA, things are not quite as bad, only job loss and personal and professional destruction at the hands of those of the tribe that FEAR the real truth of the jewish holocaust being exposed is evident.

    A questionable judicial “trick” used in holocaust trials is that of “judicial notice” in which TRUTH CANNOT BE USED AS A DEFENSE OR ENTERED INTO EVIDENCE IN THE KANGAROO COURTS THAT PROSECUTE THOSE WHO DARE TO INVESTIGATE THIS HISTORICAL EVENT. Judicial notice, once invoked against a defendant, disallows the introduction of evidence that does not conform to “commonly accepted beliefs” about the “holocaust”, EVEN IF THE EVIDENCE EXPOSES THE HOLOCAUST LIES AND FABRICATIONS THAT CAN EASILY BE DEBUNKED. A question for you holocaust promoters-why are there laws that criminalize the search for truth?? What are you afraid of??

    When the truth about this historical event comes out, it will change much of the world’s perception about those that are using this event as a cash cow that keeps on giving. . . there’s NO business like SHOAH business. Zionist complicity in this event is carefully covered up.

    A good example of present-day censorship is the fate that awaits those that dare question official jewish holocaust orthodoxy. Most European countries have criminalized ANY line of thought that deviates from the official jewish holocaust story. WHY?? In fact, TRUTH is no defense when it comes to all things holocaust.

    Ask noted WW2 researcher David Irving, who was forced to recant TRUTH in order to avoid punishment.

    The latest victims of holocaustianity are Ursula Haverbeck, Monika Schaefer and Sylvia Stolz, who are elderly grandmothers who have been prosecuted and sentenced to maximum-security prison in Germany for incorrect thoughts.

    If people only knew of the planning that took place (among those of the chosen) to engineer the jewish holocaust, there would be a pogrom of massive size. You see, the jewish holocaust was necessary in order to force the establishment of a jewish state. In this case, the ENDS justified the MEANS. There have been many holocausts of much greater misery throughout human history, yet the jewish holocaust is the only one that counts . . .

    It is interesting to note that the term holocaust to mean mass extermination was never used during or immediately after WW2, only coming to vogue in the 1960s, when it was noted that false guilt could be assigned and reparations could be procured.

    Look at the commercialization of the so-called jewish holocaust while the much larger communist (true) holocaust is conveniently forgotten.

    To assure a continuing supply of jewish holocaust survivors, jews are tattooing their ATM (oops, I mean camp numbers) on their children and grandchildren. In addition, jewish psychologists have come up with a new concept, and disease-holocaust transference syndrome. You see, children and grandchildren of jewish holocaust survivors are infected with this disease and should also be considered holocaust survivors, eligible for holocaust reparations. According to these jewish psychiatrists, even unrelated individuals can be “infected”with this jewish-only “malady”.

    Since the Zionist jews declared war on Germany in 1933 (yes, 1933), the Germans had no choice but to complete the Zionist plan of marginalizing German jews (to say the least)..

    This fulfilled the Zionist plan of forcing German jews to emigrate to Palestine while making the world grant jews a homeland Israel. It is interesting to note that the German boycott of jewish businesses lasted for one day, whil the jewish boycott (actually the jewish declaration of war on Germany) started in1933 and lasted until the summation of WW2.

    Let’s not forget that as “world jewry” declared WAR on Germany in 1933, a book “Germany Must Perish” was authored by Theodore N. Kaufman, a jew, who advocated the complete destruction and extermination of Germany, it’s people and culture, and erasure from the world timeline and history.

    Zionists have been predicting a jewish homeland for the last two-hundred years while predicting a holocaust of 6 million for the same amount of time. The International Red Cross had full access to all of the camps for the duration of the war, yet reported NOT ONE INSTANCE of extermination or mass murder.

    Regarding that (jewish freak show) holocaust showplace Auschwitz, there are engineering inconsistencies in the design of the so-called gas chambers. The doors are not of a gas-tight design; it would have been impossible to retrieve the bodies, and there is no means to ventilate the rooms after the so-called gassing took place. There is a gas chamber chimney that is not connected to anything. From an engineering standpoint, these are very serious errors that would have caused the deaths of the operators of these supposed gas chambers. As Germans were excellent engineers, it is difficult to observe the glaring engineering errors that presently exist in these camps.

    American execution expert, Fred Leuchter travelled to Auschwitz, surreptitiously obtained samples from the purported gas chambers, had them tested and published his results. The absence of Prussian blue (ferricyanide) in ALL of the samples, save one, was PROOF that the gas chambers did not exist. The one positive sample was taken from a room used to disinfect clothing. In fact, the chimney for the supposed gas chamber does not connect to anything.

    Mr. Leuchter was rewarded for his search for TRUTH with his professional and personal character assassination by those of the tribe. He lost all of his federal and state contracts, and was prosecuted under an obscure Massachusetts law for practicing engineering without a license-a law which had never been used vindictively before or since. . .After his report was published, he was harassed by Israeli “deep state” types (mossad) who he successfully “outed”.

    It is no secret that after WW2, the Soviets attempted to create the death camps for propaganda purposes. Yes, there was extreme deprivation and suffering–many people perished. The prime cause of death was typhus. As allied bombings destroyed most of the infrastructure, typhus was at epidemic levels. THIS is what caused the massive amounts of human deaths . . .NOT gassing.

    It is interesting to note that, before the camps were liberated by the allies, the camp occupants chose to flee with the German troops, rather than be liberated by the Russian allies.

    It is said that the light of day is the best disinfectant in the search for truth Unfortunately this quote does not apply to all things holocaust. It appears that there are those”holocaust promoters who are afraid of the TRUTH. Hence the prosecution and incarceration of those who dare question aspects of this historical event.

    I urge all holocaust believers to check these things out for yourselves IF YOU DARE. You will not like what you find

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  306. @The Dark Night

    I don’t protect my ilk.

    Homosexual pedophile Priests in the Catholic Church shuold be beheaded. Bella Dodd’s ‘Heart of Darkness’ shows how far the Catholic Church has been sabotaged. By ‘Hellenic Jews’. Like our current fake Pope.

    It wasn’t a long idiotic comment. It was a good comment 🙂

    You’re just raising a classic Protestant trope. The Priest is merely a conduit for God, in exactly the same way as an exorcist, without becoming God. If you cannot be the recipient of confession, you cannot be the recipient of exorcism. But as we know the latter is false so is the former.

    And form follows function. Forgiveness from a man has much more psychological and physiological salience then forgiveness in the abstract. Or prospective forgiveness via an animal.

    Of course I can see aspects of Catholicism that are problematic. Almost everything in Vatican II has been diastrous for the Church. Almost certainly deliberately.

    Well I can understand that the Chicken acts as a conduit or a proxy – but it doesn’t change the other ethical and moral problems of unbounded prospective absolution.

    It’s quite the opposite. The inconvenience and obligation of confession makes it an enaction of many virtues.

    [MORE]

    Confession confers grace. Examination of conscience develops conscience. I would have thought that transferring conscience to another entity would actually inhibit and reduce conscience. As it’s designed to do.

    I would have thought it’s the opposite. The requirement to conduct interior examination leads to a development of remorse – the first sorrowful mystery of the rosary is the agony in the garden, and it’s grace is precisely ‘sorrow for sin’.

    There is a good book called the irrational atheist. The argument that Christianity produces warfare was constantly used by the neoatheists. It no longer is used, because it is no longer a viable argument.

    The non-Christian just has a thorough misunderstanding of the body-soul dichotomy and of the virtue of mortification. That generally is the cause of the reference to ‘burnings’. If you’re referring to the inquisition, the number is 5,000, not 5 million etc. And heresy is real.

    All Christian doctrine is a function of pure logic. None of it is random.

    When one reads of Podestas and Epsteins and senior officials using coded language to refer to human sacrifices it becomes clear that more burnings are required, not less. It is better to burn in this life then the next.

    The absence of this the virtue of mortification has led to things like the proliferation of euthanasia and abortion and suicide. Because mortification is linked to the virtue of hope. Mortification is simply the ability to suffer in the physical in order to enhance the spiritual. Hedonism has totally replaced that in the West, thanks to Jewish cultural hegemony.

    Jews have their idea of the burden of Tikkun Olam, but they have no conception of the burden of maintaining a state of grace.

    Some Protestant sects have some strange ideas about predestination and similar moral inversons to the Sabbatean Frankists.

    But confession is the opposite of removing worry. Do you have any conception of how difficult it is to sit in front of someone you know quite well who knows everyone you know and tell him that you’ve committed vile and shameful acts?

    The shame of it and embarassment burns. Because it is a presage of what will happen in final judgmeent – when everyone will be forced to atone before the eyes of all of heaven and earth for their actions and choices.

    And think about the logic of what you say. If having to appear before the heavenly tribunal in Confession is somehow expulcatory, and do it again and again and again every time you commit even one mortal sin, otherwise you can’t receive communion, what is putting all the sins of the future in a chicken before you know what they are? And there are all manner of caveats to receiving full forgiveness that Catholics have forgotten, or we would like to forget.

    The equivalent would be going to confession once at the beginning of the year, then proceeding to act as debauched and depraved as you liked.

    Christians don’t reflexively blame Jews – the past 70 years in the Church in the West has been one of praising Jews and Judaizing Christianity. Alsmot every Protestant church now is just a degnerate form of Tikkun Olam as fake Good Samartanism. The Church has also been infected by Jewish ‘intersectionality’ and ‘relgious studies’ instead of studying our own faith we only learn about it relative to other faiths.

    Christianity is about justice, not love and kindness.

    Justice is coming Sagi. You haven’t even seen a Christian west. But Christian Nationalism is the only viable form of western culture – and it’s going to be returning with a vengeance, after a period of decline. We too have our prophecies. Everything the Jews do in their arrogance and their venality is merely a part of a larger plan. You are our existential test.

    And Judaism too has been sabotaged, that’s always to be kept in mind.

    So there is no hate. Just understanding of the way things are going to go.

  307. @SolontoCroesus

    Bruce (((Springsteen))) is as Catholic as Rabbi Herschel.

    https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/266445/bruce-springsteen-speaks-out-for-gay-marriage

    Bruce came out in support of gay marriage.

    https://www.lifenews.com/2012/10/19/bruce-springsteen-campaigns-for-obama-promotes-abortion/

    Bruce Jew (((Springsteen))) performed for Obama and supported abortion.

    He’s a fake Christian.

    It’s not possible to be Catholic and to support gay marriage or abortion, or Obama lol.

    You have to judge people by what they do, not what they say.

    Springsteen has consistently abjured catholicsm. I mean I don’t know, maybe he’ll come around.

    But the above is pretty bad.

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  308. @Flint Clint

    I don’t think that Jesus died on the cross in a protest against abortion. or even gay marriage.

    I think those things are wrong, even sinful in the Catholic sense of sin — but forgiveness and redemption is what Jesus’s death on the cross promised: if you are willing to take up your cross, to endure the suffering of this life, to make profound betrayals as did Peter but still endure, still strive, you can redeem your life — your life is never beyond redemption.

    Politically, I think the stupidest thing Roman Catholics can do is plant their flag on the hill of abortion. Is that what Roman Catholicism is all about — ProLife that means anti abortion?
    Spending trillions of taxpayer dollars to kill millions of innocent people in far away lands — no problem, just repeat after me, Abortion is killing babies!

    Well duh.
    War is killing babies too, and with less justification and more immoral complicity than most abortions. — No, change that: there is very little moral consideration when Americans pay taxes that end up killing unknown persons in vast numbers by high-tech means in far-away places for no discernible reason.

    Has Pro Life created such a solid moral platform for Catholics that they have the moral clout to counteract the inroads of ADL – SPLC – and the gazillion Jewish organizations that are debasing American culture with American taxpayer dollars?
    I don’t think so: I think the Church has squandered its moral dominance — a tragedy, since imo the Roman Catholic institution is the only organization with the international presence, numbers, and (should be) moral gravity to counteract zionism.

    The anti-abortion/pro-life platform is the gift that keeps on giving to Jews — what good has it done for Catholics?

    I was a great admirer of Cardinal Bernardin and his Seamless Garment of Life: he included in his “Pro-Life” stance opposition to war, to death penalty, AND to abortion. That made sense to me.
    Of course, Bernardin had to be taken down — even E Michael Jones attacks him.

    As for Springsteen’s politics — as stated above, I really didn’t know much about him or paid much attention; ChuckOrloski mentioned one of his songs, I listened, did a bare minimum internet search. I was impressed that he is devoted to his mother.
    (I see that on another thread Chuck & others are criticizing Bruce for having said, “I should go to Israel.” Wait and see. So far, the referenced situation says more about how Jews do things than about Springsteen.)

    That Springsteen’s mother is Italian might explain something about his stance on abortion. You may or may not know this, but Italians might be more disdainful of Catholic hierarchy preachments than any other group of Catholics — certainly moreso than Irish clergy, who dominate American hierarchy.
    Maurizio Viroli offered some insight into this Italian characteristic in an interview with Brian Lamb about Machiavelli. Lamb, whose own mother is a devout Indiana evangelical, was aghast that Machiavelli used salty language and engaged in numerous extra-marital affairs. “Isn’t that against the teachings of the Church?” said Lamb (or something like that).
    First of all, replied Viroli, Machiavelli hated*** the Church / hierarchy — the Borgias, in his day = a cesspool of debauchery and corruption, and they were not Italian.
    https://www.c-span.org/video/?160904-1/niccolos-smile#

    Second, Italians gave themselves permission to live their own spiritual – religious lives and make their own moral decisions. My Mother’s friends would think/say: “You no play the game, you no make the rules.” Italians should not be confused with Puritans. I don’t know how “Italian” Bruce’s mother was, but she, and therefore he, may have been influenced by a similar mindset.

    I’m not defending Springsteen — he’s an interesting artist, had his ups and downs, seems to have made a lot of money, and seems to have at least some sense of sharing the limelight he attracts. I hope he summons the gumption to resist being cornered into going to Israel.

    ____
    ***Machiavelli hated the Vatican / Catholic hierarchy, but was a deeply committed Christian: he always had a copy of Dante’s Divine Comedy close at hand, and was equally conversant with the Latin Christian scholars as with the Hebrew – Christian scriptures. https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691154497/machiavellis-god

    To many readers of The Prince, Machiavelli appears to be deeply un-Christian or even anti-Christian, a cynic who thinks rulers should use religion only to keep their subjects in check. But in Machiavelli’s God, Maurizio Viroli, one of the world’s leading authorities on Machiavelli, argues that Machiavelli, far from opposing Christianity, thought it was crucial to republican social and political renewal — but that first it needed to be renewed itself. And without understanding this, Viroli contends, it is impossible to comprehend Machiavelli’s thought.

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  309. anon[592] • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    organized jewry and the jewish owned media is an european hate machine doing your dirty work dedicating 24h/d to denigrate european history culture and our race itself more or less like happened in weimar era in germany denigrating german culture and people as worthless until german people said ENOUGHT.

    the best example of the two extreme worldview nazism and zionism cant be more different
    nazism was all about of protecting germans and improving ourself to an ubermench status but also recognizing the positive aspects of other civilizations like islam or the milenial history of japan and chinese ,the hate toward jews was more than justified .

    zionism or judaism in its current form is all about degrading everyone to the lowest common denominator with their creeppy obssesion trying to mix everyone with blacks so they can rule unopossed in a world in ruins.

    nazims obsesion was to create the ubermench and lead the world to the stars judaism obsesion is to create the untermench and slave the world perpetually

    creation ,love ,honour,family,leading instead of slaving ,improving ,new horizons AGAINST slavery,destruction ,hate,earthly ambitions ,double morals.

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  310. Harbinger says:
    @AaronB

    “But even in this site, white nationalists are preoccupied with intense hatred of everyone else in a way that no one else is. Nazi Germany did not spring out of thin air – it was just a clearer than average form of typical European white nationalism.”

    This promotes the utter insanity, blatant lies and hysteria of Jews.

    Before WW2, there WAS no nationalism.
    Why?
    Everyone, was a nationalist. You didn’t need any identity politics to confirm your beliefs and promote traditions and cultures that were thousands of years old. It was the JEW who brought in identity politics with the granting of citizenship, to non Europeans, in European people’s lands and nations, allowing them to effectively become OF that nation and thus KILL the very concept of nation.

    Nationalism has been around for tens of thousands of years. It is simply the desire to protect one’s country and people and if we go back, into history we can see that Jews, were very much nationalists, in their wars against Rome. The Celtic people, the Germanic, the Italian, Slavic, Greek, Mesopotamian….and so on, all were virulent nationalists because that was all they knew – their way of life, their history, their traditions and culture.

    And what is the ‘white nationalism’ you attack? It’s a natural rebellion of the Jewish created destruction of their lands through mass immigration, promotion of depravity, creation of legislation that effectively hamstrings any indigenous fightback of the colonisation and subsequent destruction of their lands.
    That is what white nationalism essentially is. It’s being ‘Jew wise’.

    We would not have the problems we have in this world if Jewish bankers had not brought about the wars that have crippled the peoples of the west.
    We would not have the problem with Jewish bankers, had the Jewish people kept them in check. They didn’t because the bankers were merely promoting Jewish ideology of a world of their own and the destruction of the world’s peoples. The ethos of Judaism is a world for Jews and no one else.

    White people HAVE ALWAYS kept the wrongdoers, in their society in check through law. Jews do not do this. They protect their tribe, hence why we only ever hear of Jewish wrongdoing AFTER they’re dead. However, in the case of Harvey Winestein, they’ll occasionally throw one of their own to the wolves in order to promote an agenda that will have a much larger impact on the goyim – #MeToo.

    White nationalists DO NOT have an intense hatred for other peoples as you wrongly state. We have a love for our own and wish to protect our own, as all peoples in this world are. You, as a Jew, are simply irate that we won’t just lie down and die.

    You know that your people, with every second that passes, are simply digging a hole for yourself, that once you fall in, you’ll never get out of again.
    You will bring about your own demise. The internet will expose your lies and your utter hatred for the world’s non Jewish community and you will be punished, nay, eradicated for your crimes against the world’s population. You will move from a desire to have this world all to yourself to begging to be allowed to exist within it. And when that happens, I can’t see any quarter being given. Your silence, as a Jewish community, to remain silent when wealthy Jews commit crime after crime exposes your complicity.

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    , @Daniel Rich
  311. Robjil says:
    @anon

    In WWII, Germany was surrounded by two giant Zion genocidal crazies attacking her.

    In ZUS, we had Theodore N. Kaufman, a German Jew, who was calling for the genocide of the German people for being German.

    https://cosmotheistchurch.org/product/germany-must-perish-by-theodore-n-kaufman/

    Only in Zion ruled lands would such a book be published or talked about as good. Mad Albright would be alright with this. Amelak, Purim and Seven Nations genocide culture is what it is.

    Description
    This March 1941 book-written by a New Jersey Jewish-German émigré-caused a storm in Germany and America with its open advocacy of the physical extermination of all Germans and Germany itself. This was to be achieved through a process of mass sterilization, and the physical dismemberment of that country. Arguing that Nazism was in fact just another expression of militant Germanism, the author said that the Germans would never change and the only way to end the ongoing struggle was to end Germany and the German people. Because of Kaufman’s claimed links to the policy advisors of the American president, Nazi Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbels used the book to help encourage Germans to fight to the last.

    A lot of the book came true after the war.

    Ironically, significant sections of Kaufman’s book, despite being dismissed as the work of a loner, came true. At least 12 million Germans were expelled from their land following the end of the war, and their deportation became the single largest transfer of any population in modern European history, and one-third of German territory was ethnically cleansed of Germans and permanently seized. Although the sterilization plan was never implemented, the collapse in the German birth rate, predicted by the author, has occurred, and even this part of the plan seems set to become reality. As the author wrote: “Of course, after complete sterilization, there will cease to be a birth rate in Germany. At the normal death rate of 2 per cent per annum, German life will diminish at the rate of 1,500,000 yearly. Accordingly, in the span of two generations that which cost millions of lives and centuries of useless effort, namely, the elimination of Germanism and its carriers, will have been an accomplished fact.”

    This is what the main paper of Zion ruled US thought about the plan.

    A SENSATIONAL IDEA! – Time Magazine A PLAN FOR PERMANENT PEACE AMONG CIVILIZED NATIONS! – New York Times

    On the other side of Germany. Zion ruled Soviet Union had similar plans.

    https://www.ihr.org/jhr/v08/v08p507_Weber.html

    Ihya Ehrenberg, the Soviet Propagandists, Jewish, had very similar plans. Here is an example of his “writings” in his propaganda pamphlets.

    In one leaflet headlined “Kill,” Ehrenburg incited Soviet soldiers to treat Germans as sub-human. The final paragraph concludes: [2]
    “The Germans are not human beings. From now on the word German means to use the most terrible oath. From now on the word German strikes us to the quick. We shall not speak any more. We shall not get excited. We shall kill. If you have not killed at least one German a day, you have wasted that day … If you cannot kill your German with a bullet, kill him with your bayonet. If there is calm on your part of the front, or if you are waiting for the fighting, kill a German in the meantime. If you leave a German alive, the German will hang a Russian and rape a Russian woman. If you kill one German, kill another — there is nothing more amusing for us than a heap of German corpses. Do not count days, do not count kilometers. Count only the number of Germans killed by you. Kill the German — that is your grandmother’s request. Kill the German — that is your child’s prayer. Kill the German — that is your motherland’s loud request. Do not miss. Do not let through. Kill.”

    Ehrenberg’s Tanakh style of writings spurred on the cruelty done by Soviet soldiers to the German people after the war.

    Ehrenburg’s incendiary writings certainly contributed in no small measure to the orgy of murder and rape by Soviet soldiers against German civilians.

  312. @SolontoCroesus

    Just because Springstein can get redemption doesn’t mean he’s currently not a fake Catholic. He is a fake Catholic. He’s using his prominence for evil. Therefore he is evil.

    It’s not about what is good for the Jews. It’s about what is truth. There is no gay mirage. We’ve aborted entire generations of Europeans on the pyre. And more homosex and more abortion is a bad thing, not a good thing. The Church was strongest just pre-Vatican II, when it looked like there was going to be a Catholic century.

    Now Jews LARPing as Catholics call for open borders and more anal sex – they are going to be cast out, not the other way around.

    The Church still has moral dominance – it just needs a non-homosexual mafia clergy. Which unfortunately, the Jewish/freemasons have embedded. Like Kennedy, they just murdered John Paul I.

    Italians are always the Italians. They could disdain the Borgias. But it doesn’t change the fundamental tenets on abortion. If Italy wants to survive, they are going to have to have children. End of story. Principles exist for a reason.

    Unfortunately it’s getting hard to argue down people who want non-Christian and non-European abortion.

    And it’s abuot ‘renewal’ and ‘The Spirit of Vatican II’. It’s about returning Catholicicm to actually being Catholicism.

    Here’s a hint – Catholicism precludes mass immigration if it causes harm to natives. So Podsta da Molesta and all his coven of Jews pretending to be Catholics sacrificing infants are heretics.

    Catholicism is not about ‘forgiveness’ but justice. This imbecile Good Samaritanism is a Jewish invention.

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  313. AaronB says:
    @Harbinger

    Well, the fact of the matter is, for the past few hundred years whites were the most aggressive and imperialistic people in the world.

    Plus, and more frightening, you invented immoral ideologies like Darwinism, Capitalism, and the like, which justify bad behavior, and things like the Enlightenment, which are an attempt to destroy all traditional cultures across the world.

    You guys for the time being simply can’t be trusted with power.

    I’m not saying that you won’t ever be able to be trusted, but for the time being – no.

    The rest of the world has every right to be concerned about you guys, and to limit your nationalism. The best of the whites – the smartest and most moral – understand this well.

    Look at this site – there are a handful of Jews here, but none of them express hatred towards other groups like what is expressed towards Jews, Hispanics, and blacks by the white nationalists here. Not even close.

    I’m an Israel supporter and Jewish nationalist – you will never hear me talking about blacks, Hispanics, or whites with hatred. I even am sympathetic towards Arabs, who are trying to destroy my country.

    There are a few Muslims here who are mildly anti-Semitic and anti-Western, but again none of them express insane, intemperate hatred of the kind you white nationalists do regularly. The only genocidal, insane Muslim anti-Semite on this site is Kevin Barrett – a white convert, predictably.

    So whites have had a problem with intemperate hatred for some time now, and you don’t seem able to do nationalism without hatred of everyone else.

    Since you can’t play nice, you need to have your toys taken away from you for a while, and you have to sit in the corner. No one is ready yet to trust you yet. And again, the best whites understand that white nationalism is uniquely problematic in a way that Zionism, for instance, isn’t – centred as it is on one peace of land and defensive in nature, without hating everyone.

    Now, one hopes that the madness of the past 500 years that whites are suffering from, is winding down – and you will once again be able to have your toys. Believe me, we want you to be rehabilitated.

    But you’re not there yet, and your addiction to immoral ideologies like Darwinism and the Enlightenment shows no sign, yet, of abating.

    However, it may also be necessary for a new race to arise in in the West for the culture to change. This seems to be the way of renewal in the West. Greece and Rome did not change until they underwent racial transformation. Or perhaps, racial transformation is just a consequence of culture renewal.

    Either way, historically, cultural renewal in Europe goes hand in hand with racial transformation. The smartest and best minds of the white race seem to grasp this intuitively, and are therefore flooding Europe with foreigners, as ancient Rome did as well.

  314. @Flint Clint

    Perhaps Sagi Harari will be kind enough to explain why a sheet is tossed over the crucified figure, when Talmudic individuals have to resort to a church to practice their rituals?

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  315. @SolontoCroesus

    What Catholics are spending trillions of dollars fomenting wars in the Middle East? That would be the Jews. Catholics don’t get access to their funds. It just gets stolen. Like US Taxpayer money.

    And Cardinal Bernadin was a flaming Homosexual who used Church funds to procure himself boi-pussy.

    https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/chicago-cdl.-cupich-waited-a-month-before-removing-child-porn-priest

    Anything that degenerate has to say is of zero value. If he said he was against abortion, it’s only because the men he was having sex with as a Cardinal couldn’t give birth and inconvenience him.

    It’s unreal. Warhammer 40k is right. The Chaos gods are everywhere. Hopefully in future there will be a ‘real’ inquisition, a real one, that actually ‘does’ purge heresy and corruption.

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  316. @The Dark Night

    I got it.

    I make a vow.

    When I change my mind, I slap my head 6 times in between the juicy legs of a freshly slaughtered and plucked hen, and my vow is nullified.

    Great doing business with you.

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  317. @Flint Clint

    Go for it, Flint.
    It’s workin’ out swell for Roman Catholicism so far.

    btw, Springsteen’s public persona is not about being Catholic — as far as I know he does not claim to represent Catholic. He just says that his thinking/song writing are influenced by his early Catholicism. I raised the point of Bruce’s ‘Catholicism’ only to say it is much like my own, not that that matters to anybody but me and the people I care about.

    Unlike many of the clergy, I haven’t seen reports that he’s a pedophile, a homo, a promoter of homo, or an adulterer. Don’t know much about how he handles his extraordinary wealth. No known links to Epstein, afaik. Not a slave trader, sex trafficker, dope head. His 3 children (first 2 born out of wedlock) are adults and seem to be leading productive lives, out of his orb.
    One Catholic principle that still influences me (from time to time) is Judge not lest you be judged. I’m not in a position to judge Springsteen, and it wouldn’t make a difference anyhow.

    I do make judgments and hold strong opinions about how US government conducts its affairs because I am directly implicated in those actions. I try to make those judgments known in situations where it might make a difference. (But not often or loudly enough: in that regard, I am almost as gutless as most of the Catholic hierarchy.)

    The same is not the case re Roman Catholicism: it does not speak for me nor do I feel compelled to be bound by its strictures nor even to be shamed by its actions — I’m not a participant. period.


    PS. Flint Clint wrote: “Hopefully in future there will be a ‘real’ inquisition, a real one, that actually ‘does’ purge heresy and corruption.”
    Lucky me. I’m so old I won’t burn, I’ll spontaneously dissolve into a pile of dust. (think of it as pre-soap)

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  318. @AaronB

    Except the problem that you have with this theory Aaron is that Jews rule the West – certainly in the United States. How do we know this? Aside from almost total Jewish monopoly, lets go back to that anti-BDS law. You have said you think it goes ‘too far’. But your compatriots don’t. They are cheerfully enforcing it. What you are seeing in the West is the failure of JEWISH governance, not gentile governance.

    What you are seeing are the consequences of Jewish Enlightenment.

    You are also engaging in the usual, classic, boring, perpetual inversion.

    Whites have in fact been guilty of the opposite of what you proclaim – a pathological altruism.

    A pathological altruism, generosity and self-abnegation, gleefuly inculated by Jewish media and Jewish intellectuals.

    You reverse causality and reverse victimisation.

    Whites are rejecting Darwinism – because it’s scientifically invalidated by Gene mutation theory.

    Whites are also rejecting the Enlightenment – that is precisely why are you are seeing a white nationalism that rejects the false ideas of equality and a brotherhood of man. You apparently don’t know what the Enlightenment is and was. You say whites are bad because of the Enlightenment, yet it is the Enlightenment that allows Jewish station in the West! Idiocy.

    You are nobodies’ brother.

    You talk about hatred, and then casually allude to the replacement of entire contintental populations and profess that people native to a country are not fit to rule it.

    Your descriptions and attributions of hatred are as false and facile and flacid as those by the Anti-Defamation League, or the Southern Povery Law Centre, or B’nai B’rith. It literally means anyone or anything that you don’t like.

    You talk of temperance in reference to tone. But your tone is far worse.

    White people are the only people in the history of the world, ever, ever, ever to voluntarily relinquish power and population to competing nations out of a sense of brotherhood and altruism and guilt for alleged historical wrongdoing.

    What you are seeing today is the realisation that this altruism is entirely unreciprocated and there is no brotherhood. Only greedy, lying, deeply hostile nations professing simultaneous superiority and victimhood.

    Europe’s population is not going to massively change. The Nationalist wave hasn’t really even started yet. We’ve had almost 80 years of Jewish hegemony within Liberal Democracy. We’ve had about 2 years of Nationalism.
    [
    It’s absolutely hilarious to listen to Jews talk about Darwinism, when the argument for total stranglehold of Jewish nepotism in the United States is a social darwinist argument based on a false value for Jewish average IQ.

    And you personify that false IQ myth. You say white people need to relinquish the Enlightenment, and that’s the cause of their travails? Here is the ethos of the Enlightenment according to Jewapedia.

    “The Enlightenment included a range of ideas centered on reason as the primary source of knowledge and advanced ideals such as liberty, progress, toleration, fraternity, constitutional government and separation of church and state.[5][6] In France, the central doctrines of the Enlightenment philosophers were individual liberty and religious tolerance, in opposition to an absolute monarchy and the fixed dogmas of the Roman Catholic Church”

    Who benefits from the Enlightenment most? Jews. Cosmopolitan international cliques’ benefit. Because they claim the culture of toleration, even as they engage relentlessly in the culture of critique – as you have here. Jews have proven they are totally unfit for rule. Christian Europe lasted over a thousand years. The Jewish post war Pax Americana is going to fail well before 100 years.

    And what do you decry white people for? Rejecting the thing you tell them to reject. Nationalism IS a rejection of the Englightenment.

    So as all Jews, you stake out both sides of the argument. If the White rejects the Enlightenment he is a Nazi. If he claims it, he is a decadent. Congratulations.

    It’s very refreshing however to have you openly state dual loyalties, treason and racial animus on behalf of Jews in the West. The casual way you say it, belying your obvious lack of reasoning skills makes it more chilling then the most vulgar of intemperate calumnies you refer to, but cannot quote.

    As Jews, you ruthlessly clamp down on speech in the public square – and then you affect a pathetic, fake, and ludicrous ‘wounding’ from language online. You cry out as you strike.

    It’s amazing. Cliche is real. Caricature is real. You are an exemplar, congratulations.

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  319. @Flint Clint

    What Catholics are spending trillions of dollars fomenting wars in the Middle East? That would be the Jews.

    Yes, you blockhead, “that would be Jews” who are spending trillions of US dollars killing Jews’ enemies in the ME.
    (Just as it was Jews who incited WWI prolongation and WWII — got Christians to kill their Christian brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers, in Germany, for benefit of Jews.)

    It would be the Roman Catholic Church that has the heft and global reach to speak out forcefully against Jewish wars if so many RCs did not have their heads up their anuses — and I’m not talking about the homos — and summoned some courage to challenge the actual enemy — those Jews you mentioned.

    sheesh.

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
  320. @Harbinger

    Perhaps it’s good to know the origin of words.

    When a partisan crawled underneath the open window of a room where German officers had their usual Friday evening get-together, on a dreary, cold and damp fall night in the middle of WWII, he [over] heard one of them say, “..nah, Sie…” before the speaker shut the window closed.

    Had our dapper partisan been able to hear the rest of the sentence, he would not have his unfortunate mistake [although, given the circumstances he’s forgiven] and heard this instead: “…nah, Sie sind ja ganz verrückt! […nah, you are crazy!].”

    Now we’re stuck with his phonetic interpretation ‘Nazi.’

    As an aside, it’s a word individuals of a tribal persuasion [love to] keep very much alive [even decades after the facts].

    I don’t think AH would slap Hess on the back and say, “Stop pulling my leg, you old nazi, you!” [but I could be wrong…]

    Disclaimer: I wasn’t there when any of this happened.

  321. @AaronB

    HAHAHAHAHA

    Lol ‘Zionism is defensive in nature’ – Defensive? Ah yes, the defensive colonisation of the Palestinians. They are the aggressors for existing in their native land. You my friend, are the neo-Palestinians. You are neo-palestinians.

    Zionism is defensive? On this website are the annals of endless Zionist offensive against the good, the beautiful and the true for the purposes of false Zionist narratives.

    And European nationalism which is no different in kind to Jewish nationalism is somehow offensive?

    Israel is defensive? The constant demand for war with Iran, the Greater-Israel colonisation project, the illegal settlements etc, all ‘defensive’?

    http://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/05/11/fiscal-impact-of-whites-blacks-and-hispanics/

    Whites pay for the rest of the world, by and large excepting the IQ elite from China and India in particular, that reside in the West.

    We have paid a very heavy price, and have to fight to even have it acknowledged.

    Lol, you are sitting astride a false history.

    I’ve linked to that Lebo Sagi scores of stories from prominent Jews decrying the loss of Jewish influence on both sides of politics (in relative terms) in the UK and the US. The Jewish stranglehold will no doubt remain a while yet, but it’s lessening.

    There is no such thing as ‘white nationalism’. There is German nationalism, there is Irish nationalism, there is American nationalism, there is English nationalism.

    And Jewish nationalism is the by far the most problematic of nationalisms of all.

    As we have seen, Jewish nationalism was behind the ‘problematic’ European nationalism of the twentieth century.

    It’s good to see your hatred and animosity out in the open.

    It’s actually hilarious.

    You’re probably too dumb, but I suggest you go and read fellow Israeli Martin Van Creveld. Have a look at his theses and then compare them to the results of Jewish policy in the West. Then tell me some more about how it’s whites who have created the conditions for what comes next.

    You live in a dreamland of opposites. Those ‘best of white people’ are an ever shrinking minority being purged from both political sets. Because they are men like John McCain, pedophile, compromised, bought and paid for scum and nobody likes them.

  322. @SolontoCroesus

    That’s fine. The protestant sects like the Southern Baptists and the Presbyterians are already having Lesbian orgies in the Pews.

    But I’m not here to engage in within-Christian fighting. We’re all on the same side.

    I just dismissed Springsteen because of his actions. It’s fine if you don’t. Just don’t call yourself a Christian. Being a Christian actually means something beyond preferences.

  323. @SolontoCroesus

    Catholics are fighting an internecine warfare to do precisely that – up to the point of Schism. Almost.

    Catholicism is in the same state as the West generally, fighting to survive against Jewish deep state and infiltration.

    It’s the evangelicals who are pigmen believing false theology sending shekels to the Jewish war machine, not Catholics.

    Our current false Pope is a crypto-Jew, as well as being a homosexual and a communist. He is constrained by the jurisprudence of the Church, but it is difficult when your institutions have been successfully subverted. I suggest you read Bella Dodd’s ‘Heart of Darkeness’ in which she confirms that Senator Eugene McCarthy, one of the greatest politicians in American history, not only was right about everyone and everything, he was massively understating the scale of the problem.

  324. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @Daniel Rich

    No you don’t get it.

    That has nothing to do with business. You make a vow, like a vow of fasting. When you change your mind, you wait for Yom Kippur while still keeping this vow, and when it comes you recite the Kol Nidrei prayer. After this you are free from that vow.

    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
  325. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @Daniel Rich

    Jews are allowed to pray in a mosque but it is forbidden to enter a church. That “crucified figure” is an idol, and thus a church is a place od idol worship which is a taboo.

    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
    , @Daniel Rich
  326. Bookish1 says:
    @AaronB

    You dont talk about blacks and Hispanics with hatred because they are not a threat to jews. You may not talk about whites with hatred but other jews surely do. But in the first place who the hell are you to preach to whites about what their place in this world is?

  327. @The Dark Night

    That’s an escape clause.

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  328. @The Dark Night

    And how does that work in the music ‘industry?’

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  329. @Flint Clint

    Yes, we are on the same side, but pulllease don’t presume to characterize the quality or lack of same of my “christianity” or lack of same.


    I’ve read some of Dodd & thought I might have commented on her so I checked the archive — didn’t find Bella Dodd, but did come across a statement by Germar Rudolf that I’ve been looking for for quite awhile: Rudolf said that there needs to be some way to protest against the government that is not mediated by the government.

    Here’s the link:

    http://www.unz.com/forum/one-statistics-professor-was-just-banned-by-google-here-is-his-story/#comment-1984254

    Here’s the video:
    Here’s what Rudolf said that Youtube censored (ironic, huh?)

    “I’m interested in pursuing human rights – civil rights cases. . . . Governments are the main perpetrators of civil rights violations. If you put the main perpetrator in charge of defining what civil rights are, it’s a joke to begin with. So you take the perpetrator’s definition of what civil rights are as your guiding line, you’re not ever going to go anywhere.
    All these civil rights organizations . . . are rigged the wrong way.
    We need an organization that takes all these organizations, including the United Nations, which is made up of states that violate human rights!
    . . . If a civil rights organization treads on a government’s toes, you have to fear retaliation . . .
    We need a civil rights organization that doesn’t start with civil rights definitions made by governments. Civil rights must be defended against governments.”

    Fuggedabout “ProLife.”
    The people who terminated Rudolf’s account, THEY are the enemy that it is necessary to speak out against and to remove from US culture.

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
  330. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @AaronB

    Excellent comment.

    Though I don’t get it why you always attack Enlightenment. The best thing that happened in the last centuries of madness, as you call it was Enlightenment.

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
    , @Robjil
  331. @SolontoCroesus

    Yes that’s interesting.

    And I agree that social conservatism can be used as a red herring.

    But it is important. Abortion, gay mirage, euthanasia have all sapped the will of the West. All are the product of the post-Christian.

    Yes I will refrain.

    It sounds like what your man is talking about are militias.

  332. @The Dark Night

    Which was exactly my point.

    Aaron is saying the West needs to relinquish the Enlightenment – then he attacks western nationalism which is precisely that as hatred.

    As you say, the best thing for Jews ever has been the Enlightenment. Aaron is correct that it has sapped the west’s understanding of itself.

    The current reaction against it has simply been against the cynical way Jews have utilised the Enlightenment. Maintenance of in-group low-trust alongside encouragement or coercion of out-group high-trust among whites.

    Aaron said that western Europeans can’t be trusted to govern themselves, and need to be replaced by a new race. But he doesn’t hate… I dont’ want to replace Jews in Israel. Any rhetoric to that effect is just to demonstrate the silliness of pretending Zionism is any different to American nationalism.

    Sagi I apologise for my trenchant tone with you at times.

    I agree with you – if I was Jewish, I would be doing my utmost to protect the Enlightenment. And the core foundational value of it was universalism, and that is what whites are seeing break down. It’s very obvious that there is an effort to uniquely subvert and demoralise the west, and I suppose now China can be added for it’s refusal to take a new diaspora migraiton.

    Whites would love nothing more then to ally with Jews to preserve the Enlightenment. But you seem intent, as Aaron said, on euphemistic ‘cultural renewal’, for reasons unknown.

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  333. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @Flint Clint

    Jesus Christ was a European invention, as you said, and Christian religion was a mix of Greeko-Roman and Jewish influences, as you said. I don’t disagree.

    But I’m talking about Jesus the Nazorean, a person and not Jesus Christ, a phantom, whose idol Christians worship. And I am referring to the sect of Nazoreans, who then began that what is now called Messianic Judaism.

    There’s about 20,000 Messianic Jews in Israel and about 350,000 in the world.

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
  334. @The Dark Night

    Okay I didn’t know about the Nazoreans.

    I didn’t say he was a European invention – just that his teachings formed the basis of what was a European religion. The fact he was Jewish doesn’t mean his material constitutes a Jewish religion. .

    Catholicism has all manner of influences.

    So why do Jews insist that they must engage in ‘cultural renewal’. I mean isn’t the United States and Europe pre the great migration pretty much a heaven for Jews? Huge wealth, power, influence, prosperity and freedom. I don’t understand why Jews would want to replace that with some kind of chaotic Islamo-Afri-Asian-amalgam of anti-semites.

  335. anon[592] • Disclaimer says:
    @Flint Clint

    righfully expulsed 109 times and the echoes of hitler are still present

  336. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @geokat62

    Not true.

    Except that in the English translation the language is a bit softer indeed. But the rest?

    First of all, what she said is about Christians is said in the Talmud about idol worshippers. Since Christians installed idols in churches at about 300 CE the rules regarding idol worship are applied to them too, but these rules were not created for Christians. More so these rules do not originate in the Talmud. The Bible forbids idols. Christians seem to go blind when are reminded about that: “Ye shall make no idols nor graven image, to bow down unto it: for I am the Lord.”

    She said that Jews don’t want to share with the world the real Talmud, which is in Hebrew and that shows she doesn’t know what she is talking about. The real Talmud is in Aramaic and is published online as well as the Hebrew translation.

    She presents then the usual list of the horrible Talmudic teachings, taken from anti-Jewish pamphlets, such as “Even the best of goyim should be killed” whereas the phrase translates “The best of gentiles – kill him at the time of war” and refers to the rules regarding a war between nations, and it is not in the Talmud.

    Here is what is more or less true: gentiles were created to serve, as well as Jews – to serve God, so gentiles are supposed to support Jews or become Jews too; agreements with idol worshippers are forbidden; idol worshippers among Jews are to be stoned or beheaded; a soul can be pure or impure, and a pure soul aspires to God, and is called a Jewish soul.

    That’s it.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  337. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @Harbinger

    Please read comment 296 on this page. You should at least admit that Protocols of Zion is a bit paraphrased Dialogue in Hell.

    H. Makow is not a Jew, he’s a Christian and Holocaust is not a lie but a religious idea. You seem too stupid tonight. I need a modicum of intelligence, son.

    Here is the Soncino Talmud, and here is the original. I guarantee these are full editions.

    • Replies: @Harbinger
  338. Seraphim says:
    @Flint Clint

    Nazarenes or Ebionites were a ‘Judeo-Christian’ messianic sect counterfeiting Christ’s message:
    “In the 4th century, Jerome also refers to Nazarenes as those “who accept Messiah in such a way that they do not cease to observe the old Law.” In his Epistle 75, to Augustine, he said:
    ‘What shall I say of the Ebionites who pretend to be Christians? To-day there still exists among the Jews in all the synagogues of the East a heresy which is called that of the Minæans, and which is still condemned by the Pharisees; [its followers] are ordinarily called ‘Nasarenes’; they believe that Christ, the son of God, was born of the Virgin Mary, and they hold him to be the one who suffered under Pontius Pilate and ascended to heaven, and in whom we also believe. But while they pretend to be both Jews and Christians, they are neither”.

    Islam is an offshoot of the Nazarenes.

  339. Abdullah says:
    @Flint Clint

    Mr. Clint, im no catholic nor do I live in the West. I did study at the university of Southampton at the start of the century. Even then, it became clear to me that the future “religion” of the west will become sexual depravity backed by state power so I returned back to my muslim majority country, which to be honest is no Norway but is no Somalia either.

    A lot of muslim countries are solidly middle income and to be honest, a lot more livable than most central american and sub saharan states like el salvador or the Dominican republic etc. But the right wing Jew wants to destroy all that and flood the survivors into your nations yet the hare brained evangelicals cheer on.

    Secondly, why can’t Catholics stand WITH those muslims who are standing up to the LGBT lobby for many months now?? All I see are gay bishops and even supposedly straight ones cheering on this depravity? Why can’t they at least stand behind those Muslims who are standing at the front?? Have your folks become that cowardly?? There was a time muslim parents preferred to send their children to catholic schools in the abscence of muslim schools back in the early 2000. But it looks like itll be of no use now

    https://catholictruthblog.com/2019/05/16/muslim-not-catholic-parents-fight-lgbt-indoctrination-in-schools/amp/

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
  340. Abdullah says:
    @Oscar Peterson

    Well thanks mr peterson. It was the untainted truth as far as im concerned.

    Nothing more nothing less

  341. Abdullah says:
    @Talha

    Assalaamualaikum bro. Agreed. I studied at the university of Southampton at the turn off the century.

    Visited stockholm in the summer of 03. Was shocked to witness a nudist march in one of the suburbs in the name of “freedom”. That was enough for me to call it quits. No wonder those people won’t have much of a future. I feel sorry for the children specially.

    Swedes are generally very good people although they feel a bit weird and give out those psychedelic vibe. However if channeled properly, it can be great on a spiritual way.

    Like this masjid in Stockholm. Its completely administered by a Local imam and has a very local Swedish vibe. Many local converts gather here. I visited this place a few times in 04 and this should be a good model for Islam in Sweden. The government must encourage more local converts to take up leadership position in the community which Presently is not the case I presume, at least from afar.

    A wholly local Islamic flavor must take roots in the community without those idiosyncrasies of the local culture but keeping the local ethos. This tends to make it stronger.

    And it is also more resistant to outside corruption coming from places like Riyadh etc

    Anyways, it is nice to talk to a fellow brother here who has the right harmony of deen and wordly rationalism. Hopefully, i might learn something from you

    Waalaikum salaam

  342. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @Daniel Rich

    Yes, something like that.

    “If a man vow a vow unto the Lord, or swear an oath to bind his soul with a bond; he shall not break his word, he shall do according to all that proceedeth out of his mouth.” – Numbers 30:2

    That means keeping a vow forever, and in practice sometimes leads to breaking a vow. To avoid it Kol Nidre was introduced.

  343. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @Daniel Rich

    You mean these Jewish producers of rap music, who own record companies, promote inter-racial relationships and sign black artists, who write songs about white oppressors are somehow connected to idol worship?

  344. @The Dark Night

    Oh, sorry, I forgot to add I was present in that particular church, with a crucified man and a bed sheet over his head, and, of course, individuals who adhered to Judaism.

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  345. @Seraphim

    Both Seraphim w/ tedious bible verse haranguing (lordy lordy I am glad I was not raised Protestant eevangelikal. I wonder if they memorize Yellow Pages, The One Book?) and Saggy Pants w/ kewpie doll on the brain get it wrong:

    The point is not whether Jesus is Aryan or not, it’s about the right of a people, the German people, to define their own religious / spiritual beliefs.

    Heschel the zionist Jewish supremacist says . לא

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  346. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @Flint Clint

    First, Jesus was a one hundred percent Jew. And his “material” was one hundred percent Jewish. And still is. Messianic Jews in Israel are not Christians. Nazoreans were not Christians either. You need to understand, that a tree without roots is not going to bear fruits. Dismissing the source as something irrelevant is more than stupid.

    Second, most Jews in Europe are regular people. Jobs, mortgages. And none of them wants troubles for Europe, which is home. Some Zionists support immigration from Muslim countries, hoping it shall make Jews repatriate. But as I said earlier, these policies are economical. Look at that page.

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
  347. ‘the centuries-old and wholly irrational hatred of the Jews.’

    I don’t know whether this is Dirocher’s and/or Attali’s opinion but while ‘hatred’ is too strong a word it’s perfectly rational for Whites to view a Jewish presence with deep suspicion.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  348. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @Flint Clint

    Aaron is trolling in a subtle manner, he is a great troll. You seem to miss his humor. This is not good. Sense of humor is important.

    And Zionism is different from nationalism, it’s not a secular idea. Though people for the most part talk about secular Zionism, in essence it is a religious concept.

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
  349. @Richard B

    “The years 2019 and 2020 will go down in history as the years when we stopped listening to Jewish Supremacy Inc. and started openly defying it.”

    If only. There’s definitely an awakening and the frog is stirring uneasily in the pot but to claim that we’re stopped listening, when they control almost every source of information and propaganda, is a tad optimistic.

    • Replies: @Richard B
  350. Robjil says:
    @The Dark Night

    The last hundred years have been a return to Endarkenment.

    Darkness and no light is the message of our time.

    The Zio MSM is flying around like crazy flying monkeys, like the Wiz of Oz story, attacking any one who speaks up about Zio mania.

    911 date was Elul 23: The dove is sent a second time, and returns with an olive leaf in its beak.

    After this “dove” stuff, Seven Nations to Destroy from Tanakh/Old Testament Deut. 7.1-2

    Purim wars area all the rage, like it is 500 BC Zion.

    Eighteen years before 911- 1991 war on Iraq ended on Purim

    2003 war on Iraq started on Purim

    2011 war on Libya started on Purim

    Well, the six have been knocked down. Six represents man in Jewish numerology. The seventh is waiting in wings. Our Zio MSM wants Iran, the seventh one.

    This is Endarkenment in all its unglory. This is just a bit about it in recent years. Douglas Reed’s The Controversy of Zion goes all back to WWI. Britian and the US were under Zio since then. Laurent Guyenot’s From Yahweh to Zion takes the history of Zion mania all the way to the BC times.

  351. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @Daniel Rich

    Interesting!

    Tell me more about that.

  352. Abdullah says:
    @Abdullah

    I think that link got corrupted

    It is ayesha.se . This is a masjid run by an old Swedish convert.

    • Replies: @Abdullah
  353. geokat62 says:
    @Flint Clint

    Bravo, Flint Clint!

    You have singlehandedly dismantled AaronB and his specious “Enlightenment” arguments in this extraordinary comment.

    My favourite line:

    Who benefits from the Enlightenment most? Jews. Cosmopolitan international cliques’ benefit. Because they claim the culture of toleration, even as they engage relentlessly in the culture of critique…

    Well done!

  354. anarchyst says:
    @Irish Savant

    The term “hatred” is used by jews themselves to demonize those of us who (dare to) question jewish practices and motivations.

    I would suggest that those of us who question and point out aberrations of jewish behavior use the term “aware” to define our disdain for jewish behavior and practices.

    It’s not “hatred” but “awareness”.

    The “goyim” know…

    • Agree: Robjil
  355. anarchyst says:
    @Flint Clint

    The beginning of the end of traditional Catholicism was sealed with the infiltration of the Catholic Church Vatican II Ecumenical Council of the 1960s by Jews and Protestants who were involved in the “modernization” of the Catholic Church.

    Much Catholic ritual and doctrine was discarded or changed, in order to reflect the “age” that we live in, as well as the promotion of the absolution of the Jews for Jesus Christ’s crucifixion and death, despite vitriolic Jewish hatred of Jesus Christ and Christianity which exists to this day. The fact is, the Jews DID get the Romans to crucify Jesus Christ and DID accept full responsibility for his crucifixion and death. As is the case today, they got others (Pontius Pilate) to do their “dirty work” for them…

    Abandoning the use of Latin in the Mass destroyed its universality. Previous to Vatican II, one could attend Mass anywhere in the Roman Catholic world and understand the meaning of the Mass.

    Prohibition of the celebration of the Tridentine Mass (except by special ecclesiastical permission) pushed many Catholics away from the new Modern Mass and the New Church, in general. It took a brave Archbishop Lefebvre and the Society of St. Pius X to push back” against Vatican II and re-legitimize the celebration of the pre-Vatican II Tridentine Mass and other Catholic rites.

    In pre-Vatican II times, the priest (celebrant of the Mass) was considered to be a part of the congregation, and a representative of the people.
    By turning the priest around to face the congregation, the priest was no longer a representative, but an actor, diminishing his status and importance.

    One area where the Catholic Church could improve itself involves celibacy, which is NOT Church dogma or doctrine. Celibacy was put in place during the middle ages in order to keep Church property from being inherited by family and relatives of priests and bishops. Celibacy was based on purely financial considerations, nothing more. It is interesting to note that Episcopal (Anglican) priests who convert to Catholicism can bring their families with them to the Church while Roman Catholic priests are denied marriage.

    It was a grave mistake by the Church to de-legitimize pre-Vatican II principles.

    Fortunately, there are Catholic organizations that subscribe to pre-Vatican II principles, one being the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX).

  356. Richard B says:
    @Irish Savant

    There’s definitely an awakening and the frog is stirring uneasily in the pot

    but to claim that we’re stopped listening, when they control almost every source of information and propaganda, is a tad optimistic.

    Oh, I’m not optimistic at all. Hopeful, maybe, but not optimistic.

    I don’t mean we’ll stop listening literally. We can’t, for the reason you correctly stated, they control just about every source of information and propaganda.

    No, I meant we’ll people will stop listening to them in the way they used to.

    And that is happening for the other reason you correctly stated, ie; people are waking up.

    Also, just to be clear, when I say “we” I’m referring to a critical mass.

    Because that’s all we need. It’s a myth that we need everyone to wake up.

    It only ever takes a critical mass.

    We’re definitely moving in that direction. Otherwise JSI wouldn’t be cracking down as hard as they are. They certainly see people waking up and view it as a threat.

    But whether we’re able to do anything substantial is anyone’s guess.

    Either way, 2019/2020 will mark a turning point.

  357. Abdullah says:
    @Abdullah

    Sorry for ust another broken link. This time I will get it right 🙂

    The link is http://aysha.se . If possible do check it out. Your wife is of Swedish extraction isn’t she?? She could help you with the language 🙂

    Wa’salaam

    • Replies: @Talha
  358. geokat62 says:
    @Flint Clint

    I don’t understand why Jews would want to replace that with some kind of chaotic Islamo-Afri-Asian-amalgam of anti-semites.

    When the AJC commissioned leading members of the Frankfurt School to contribute to their Studies in Prejudice series, they were intent on eradicating antisemitism in America. He wrote to his parents lamenting that signs of antisemitism could be found even in America.

    So, to more directly answer your question, Organized Jewry concludes early on that if something wasn’t done to alter the course of history, another pogrom was in the offing in America. They could almost hear the hoof-steps of Cossacks galloping across the American plains.

    With this always at the back of their minds, Organized Jewry worked diligently to change the immigration laws to make them more non-restrictionist. After suffering a major setback in 1924, they redoubled their efforts until they achieved the success they longed for with the passage of Hart-Cellar in 1965.

    What they’ve achieved in America, they’ve also managed to achieve in most other Western countries (see Barbara Lerner Spectre video for their plans for Europe).

    The grand vision? I believe it can be discerned by the work that Chabad Lubavitch has been undertaking over the past several decades. It’s to fulfill end-times prophecy – i.e., to rule over all the goyim who are commanded to follow the 7 Noahide Laws.

    This was not to be disclosed too early in the process, but thanks to the internet, a few woke goyim have caught on and the race is on to see which side will prevail in this epic battle between Jewry and goyim.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @geokat62
  359. geokat62 says:
    @The Dark Night

    Not true.

    True of false. Does the Talmud state that Christians will be punished for idolatry by decapitation if they do not renounce their belief that Christ is the Mosiach?

  360. geokat62 says:
    @geokat62

    *He… in the second second sentence of the first paragraph refers to Theodor Adorno, author of the Authoritarian Personality.

  361. geokat62 says:
    @geokat62

    [Adorno] wrote to his parents lamenting that signs of antisemitism could be found even in America.

    Thanks to the Jewish daily Forward, I am able to furnish this excerpt from Adorno’s letter to his parents in 1940:

    “Fascism in Germany, which is inseparable from anti-Semitism, is no psychological anomaly of the German national character. It is a universal tendency …The conditions for it – and I mean all of them, not only the economic but also the mass psychological ones – are at least as present [in America] as in Germany…and the barbaric semi-civilization of this country will spawn forms no less terrible than those in Germany.”

    https://forward.com/culture/211598/deconstructing-the-jewishness-of-the-frankfurt-sch/

  362. geokat62 says:

    Jewish Life in America:

    The far left, far right, and Muslims are all Anti-Semites, and the Jew is innocent thus cannot be criticized. That is the takeaway of this video.

  363. Talha says:
    @Abdullah

    Salaam Bro,

    Thanks for the link – that is awesome mashaAllah – If i get a chance to visit again, I will try to swing by that masjid inshaAllah.

    Swedes are generally very good people

    Agreed – they are really cool people. I’m pretty impressed by them and they are quite friendly. But yeah, their whole sexual liberation thing is way off-track. It didn’t used to be like that. At the turn of the last century, they still used to dress like this:

    There is a historical museum where they show traditional pre-modern Swedish life:
    https://www.skansen.se/en/welcome-to-skansen

    A wholly local Islamic flavor must take roots in the community without those idiosyncrasies of the local culture but keeping the local ethos. This tends to make it stronger. And it is also more resistant to outside corruption coming from places like Riyadh etc.

    Totally agree.

    A lot of muslim countries are solidly middle income and to be honest

    I’ve always thought this to be a reflection of the Qur’anic paradigm that “We have made you a middle/medium/balanced nation…” (2:143)

    I can see why you left the West – truth be told, most Muslims that are very eager to be here should not be. I remember that a shaykh was once asked by someone; “I am thinking of leaving the West and going back to a Muslim country.”

    And he said something along the lines of; “The people we need here are exactly those that know about the dangers of living here and are not enamored enough to lose their faith.”

    It requires a bit of steely resolve, as Shaykh Abdal Hakim Murad stated (a combo of tawakkul – trust in Allah – and ignoring the critics):

    But, honestly, many people come to respect that – even if they disagree or oppose you:

    This (islam4europeans.com) is a very interesting site that has a lot of great articles about how to go about creating a healthy and vibrant European Muslim community with its own distinct cultural characteristics and engaging with the Ummah at large:
    http://islam4europeans.com/2019/10/06/our-points-for-black-and-white-american-muslims-dialogue/

    We are in need of your dua.

    Wa salaam.

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
  364. @Talha

    You guys are smart.

    Muslim women are going to become feminist. I’ve already had a number of muslim girlfriends, and they approached me.

    The best thing for Muslims to do is retreat back to their own ways of life in their own countries. Or soon it will be Muslim women getting married to each other and becoming transexual etc.

    • Replies: @Talha
  365. @The Dark Night

    We know he is trolling.

    But it’s actually good because it elicits responses.

    The problem for the Jews is that nobody else thinks it’s trolling. Because it’s coming to fruition. Basic sarcasm is easy to observe.

    I predict that Israel is no longer going to be an American ally within the next 10 years. Aaron can see how his sarcasm works on the Chinese.

    The only thing I will say is that it’s not just Jews, but also the Freemasonic movement which has been moved within organized Jewry.

    Our Lady prophesised that Freemasonry was to overthrow all convention in the 50’s and 60’s in Sweden in 1610, over 150 years before Freemasonry was established in Bavaria.

  366. @Abdullah

    Yeah I know. I know.

    What has happened to Catholicism is what will happen to Islam just much much faster if muslims stay in the West.

    Just remember, the Unz review noted that ALL of the ‘Catholics’ in so called ‘Catholic groups’ are called Shekelberg and Bronfman, and CoinStein.

    You guys will end up the same. You think it won’t be possible. It will happen. Your top men will be assimilated into the Freemasonic movement, and slowly Islam will liberalise, then very fast. Your top men will ‘look’ Muslim, then you will notice aberrations in their family lines. But you will be able to do nothing.

    Even if you ended up having mass conversions in the West, the contemporary West’s liberalism will exert enormous pressure.

    Remember, Catholics in Britain have been obliterated since the time of Elizabeth I. The last time there was a proper Catholic insurrection in Britain, it was by the IRA, and the IRA is considered to Al Queda.

    But I think the next generation of Catholics who have seen what is occuring will be much more amenable to joining Muslims against the Globohomo Jewry.

    There are some hard embittered Catholics coming down the line, and ‘Judeo-Christianity’ is going to be set aside.

    But just remember – what I said to ‘Aaron’ applies equally to muslims.

    The nationalist wave in the West hasn’t even begun. It’s about 2 years old.

    The soft western men you see about you will become hard once the conditions change sufficiently. And they are going to change – the debt burden and the dollar reserve currency are going to fail. Muslims are uniformly a net economic burden in the West, maintained only by debt that can never be paid.

    Christianity hasn’t been reembraced only because of the Freemasonic Jewish suppression – but that relies on the current economic conditions.

    When the western middle-class finally can’t access it’s bread and circuses and soma and orgy porgy, I wouldn’t want to be a muslim in the West.

    I know it sounds ridiculous at this juncture. But it’s coming.

    Jews are not going to be able to protect Muslims from Europeans for much longer. They know they are going to lose political influence in both the UK and the United States.

    It’s difficult. There is a lot to admire in Islam and it’s arguably preferable to Jewish rule. But in the end, Europe is Christian, Greco-Roman, European peoples.

    Muslims have an effective monopoly on violence protected and abetted by the State. But that will change as I said once the economic conditions finally change sufficiently.

    I’d be wary of the Socialist left whites as well. They embrace Islam only to undermine what they regard as competition to their power. If they take power, expect Muslims to be treated like Uigyhers (sorry for spelling) in China.

  367. @The Dark Night

    I know Sagi. I know Jesus was Jewish. But his religion in the form of his teachings was totally rejected by the Jews. So that is why I insist that the religion of Christ is ‘not’ a Jewish religion for the obvious and elementary reason that Jews refuse to practice it!

    Christianity became a European religion despite it’s Jewish antecedence by virtue of it simply being practiced almost exclusively by Europeans.

    That’s the basis upon which to call something Christian or non-Christian.

    Otherwise we’d have to call almost all of the Middle-East including most of Saudi Arabia ‘Christian’, because almost all of it used to be Christian and under the Byzantine empire.

    But obviously the people in the Islamic world don’t practice Christianity, and thus they are not Christian but are muslim.

    No one rejects the roots. But Christianity is profoundly non-Jewish, for all of the reasons that I’ve linked to where Jews note the distinctions very insistently!

    I know Jews have regular pursuits. But that is like saying the same of the Jews in the United States. And sure, they have mortgages. They also happen to have an almost total hegemony on the United States private and public sectors – and it’s very similar in Europe.

    https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-thank-you-to-martin-schulz-1.5322471

    Here is Martin Schulz, President of the European Parliament, saying Germany, and by extension Europe, exists only to serve the Jews.

    Jews in Europe are culpable.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/richard-stone-british-jews-and-muslims-are-natural-allies-5363849.html

    ‘Jews and Muslims are natural allies against White people’.

    Most whites still don’t even know there is a conflict. White people in the United Kingdom are almost certainly going to die off, as the Jewish hold in the UK is even more intensive then the United States, and the anti-speech laws are vicious.

    It’s entirely possible that white people are simply ended. That’s entirely possible. Or not. We will see.

    But if Jews are the natural allies of muslims in Europe and Britain that’s problematic.

    Whites simply want to exist. I would have thought Jews would prefer to live with whites then Muslims. But apparently that is mistaken? There isn’t the slightest chance of a new Holocaust from white people. It would never happen. The only reason that white people are evincing the slightest degree of self-interest is because of the open Jewish-Muslim alliance against them and the sheer scale and sharpness of what is being done to them.

  368. Talha says:
    @Flint Clint

    Muslim women are going to become feminist.

    Some are, some are not. Feminism is a gateway to apostasy. The most feminist ones out of our people become ex-Muslim – and then go hyper-poz and live their lives complaining about the patriarchy and will likely become genetic dead-ends making more room for the rest for us.

    But then we get plenty of women coming into Islam that are tired of the gifts of feminism (my wife is from a very liberal family from Berkeley) and want to live out traditional lives. Honestly, we get the better part of the exchange; feminists leave and traditional women come in.

    I’ve already had a number of muslim girlfriends, and they approached me.

    Sure – curious though, any of them that wore hijab? To be honest, it’s not that we are not getting hit like others (when a virus is going around, it’s tough not to get sick), we’re just not being hit as hard as others on certain issues – sexual permissiveness being one of them.

    The best thing for Muslims to do is retreat back to their own ways of life in their own countries.

    Totally agree that this is the case for a good number of Muslims that are here. If they cannot control themselves in an environment where they have these kinds of freedoms and temptations, it is better for their spiritual health and afterlife that they leave and go to an environment where the social norms will better keep them in check. Material prosperity and “muh freedomz” are not worth spiritual compromise.

    Or soon it will be Muslim women getting married to each other and becoming transexual etc.

    You win some, you lose some.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
    , @Flint Clint
  369. @Talha

    Yes I know you get the post-feminists. As a Christian, that hurts, but I acknowledge it.

    Yeah Hijab on, then it comes off. Don’t underestimate women. Women are women. They are easily capable of degeneracy then they just put the Hijab back on. And yes I know it’s fornication thus I’ve stopped doing it, in part because it’s so incredibly easy.

    Once a generation or two of Muslim women receive a College education – you are screwed. They were college educated.

    In a multi-cultural society there will always be enough non-Muslims willing to enforce their ‘rights’ against you. That’s the lesson of whites in the UK, except in reverse. It will be fascinating to see how you guys go.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/us-muslims-homosexuality-white-evangelicals-lgbt-rights-transgender-islam-liberal-a7873276.html

    Look at this – US Muslims are more in toleration of homosexuality then evangelicals!

    To my shame, Catholics are in favour of homosexuality at 66%. We have been so totally pozzed it’s embarrassing. Catholics in the US are an abject joke. That’s why I drifted off briefly, but unfortunately traditional Catholicism is the truth of the world.

    Notice also how Pew reports that Muslims are in favour of increasing immigration and large socialist government – that destroys the ‘tabula rasa’ theory of interchangeable labour posited by cuckservatives and progressives. Very clear political differences modulated by race & religion.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-09/gay-imam-hopes-to-open-australias-first-lgbti-friendly-mosque/9310952

    Gay Imam is going to open a gay mosque in Australia.

    I wouldn’t count on Muslims opposing LGBTQ for long.

    Your gays are going to make gayness the mark of quality and advancement in Islam exactly the same as occured in the West.

    It sucks, because Muslims are often delightful individually, the same as Jews. But in the end, there will have to be separation.

    https://5pillarsuk.com/2019/05/08/muslim-parents-receive-school-apology-for-lgbt-indoctrination-session/

    It’s a matter of time.

    Muslim parents will get squashed just like Christian parents.

    Yayha abu Zhakaria overserved 80% of muslims in the West are on welfare. You will do what you are told, because you are reliant upon the government.

    • Replies: @Talha
  370. @Flint Clint

    You are correct.
    Just wait till the affluence of debt driven currencies end.
    The Banks are having problems settling their accounts BETWEEN each other in the overnight rebalancing act they have to perform due to the Debt load.
    The USD is currently circulating at a 5:1 debt ratio. There’s $1 circulating for every $5 in debt. This can’t and won’t continue. Because it is so difficult to actually get gold and silver in hand, for smaller players, palladium and rhodium are being driven up at rates of 3-5x prior values.
    It’s all ending. The race to the bottom is over. We are at it.
    Former Bank of Canada Governor Mark Carney, now at the Bank of England, just talked about moving to a global currency. Why? The Western Fiat Currencies are going to Fall. When this happens they will try to con us into signing on to a new currency to roll it all into a massive world debt currency. The bankers don’t want to take a haircut they want more saps to cover their idiocy and greed.
    Deutsche RE has been palletizing cash and Gold and storing it. The Russians, Chinese and anyone else with a brain have back stopped with gold.
    When the West goes down everything will change. The massive bubbles of Jewish lies, PC Culture-Cultural Marxism and other crap will all flow down the drain.
    It will be very, very ugly.
    This is when I get worried that certain people will try to precipitate war to ‘steal’ their way out of 100 years of insanity.

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  371. @Talha

    https://trueconservativepundit.com/2017/10/07/majority-of-muslims-in-west-europe-are-on-welfare/

    Here is why Islam is going to fail in Europe and the United States – it’s going to become an economic question more then just a cultural/racial/religious question. And I say this as someone who in disgust at modern Christianity actually had an earnest look at conversion to Islam, with multiple male relatives now living in Muslim countries married to Muslim women.

    80% of Muslims in Germany are on welfare.

    80% of Muslims in Denmark are on welfare.

    Only 19% of Muslims in the United Kingdom have a full time job.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-04/fact-check-muslim-workforce/9800656

    It’s better in Australia, but Muslims still represent a net liability paid for by non-Muslims due to having the lowest labour force participation rate in the country.

    It’s the economics that mean it isn’t going to work.

    https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2013/08/a-bit-of-analysis-on-who-gets-our-welfare-payments-one-country-of-birth-stands-out-a-lot.html

    I mean look at Lebo Muslims. It’s ridiculous. One in six apparently are permanently disabled?

    Lebos get ‘the wife pension’ some retarded socialist gibs party at FIFTEEN x the rate of the general population?

    And look at the rate of people getting parenting payments – I notice that China despite their huge IQ’s we’re constantly told about rank foremost in getting the parenting payment gibs, and then it’s Lebanon and fricken Iraq.

    There can’t be hardly any Iraqis’ in Australia, yet there they are, ranking highly on the gibs. And we know due to the lowest labour force participation rate the outgoings outweigh incomings.

    And look at the Lebanese – more then 10% get a carers payment for adults with retarded children.

    So it’s not binary. It’s not Jew rule or Muslim rule. Jews destroy culture but Muslims destroy economies.

    When it finally comes down to a choice for whites between their pension of the Muslims breeding check, they’re going to choose to eat.

    As someone who has to care about money I couldn’t in good conscience join a demographic that is so economically dependent on others.

    Australia is a best case scenario as well, as the Muslim population is relatively low, and one of the most assimilated in the world, with the most tolerance and long-standing presence. And it’s still an economic disaster.

    In Europe proper it’s simply a nuclear bomb. All these children being born and everyone else paying for it. It can’t possibly last – and it won’t last.

    https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/05/germans-could-need-to-work-until-their-70s-to-pay-for-hundreds-of-thousands-of-refugees-on-welfare/

    Far from Muslims paying for German Boomer pensions, they’re going to ‘cost’ upwards of $1.5trillion for the privilege of their presence. That’s just the current influx. Continuing immigration will increase that depedency ratio.

    And that doesn’t even include the fraud. Where people like Anjem Choudary say committing theft and fraud is just taking the Jizya.

    It’s not going to work. As I said – all of this nonsense is the product of economic plenty. When the contraction which is inevitable hits, the Aarons and Muhammads of this world are going to face a new reality where all the softness becomes hard.

    But until that day, brotherhood and goodwill.
    And th

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  372. Talha says:
    @Flint Clint

    Women are women. They are easily capable of degeneracy then they just put the Hijab back on.

    There is no doubt that women can succumb to these types of things. This is the loss of patriarchy at work here; men – like fathers – are supposed to guard their daughters from the predations of young, horny males. Unfortunately, this had broken down in this society. Sending women off to college alone is asking for it; they make stupid and hasty decisions and actually believe that men are honest. Fathers know better.

    I wouldn’t count on Muslims opposing LGBTQ for long.

    I would actually. Here is the issue – that gay person is trying to open one gay mosque in Australia. You can probably count these on your hand. As a person recently observed; the organizations certainly are in the hands of SJW activist Muslims – that is for sure, but where the rubber meets the road on a daily basis – the brick and mortar mosques, they have surprisingly little market share. The mosques are well in the hands of “the Uncles”.

    Your gays are going to make gayness the mark of quality and advancement in Islam exactly the same as occured in the West.

    And this is where the fight is right now. The traditionalists are already striking back. Thus far I’m actually pleased with things at this juncture. Could it be better? Of course, but then again, we are not near where others are.

    Muslim parents will get squashed just like Christian parents.

    They actually made a pretty good showing in the UK against this stuff and got the schools to back down by pulling their children out of school.

    At this point, massive resources into privatization of our schools is the next serious step we have to make. We have to seriously learn from the missteps other communities have made before us.

    Yayha abu Zhakaria overserved 80% of muslims in the West are on welfare. You will do what you are told, because you are reliant upon the government.

    I think this may be true of the Muslims in Europe, but not in the US – it’s a different dynamic.

    It really is going to be an interesting decade to see which way things will go. If it does start to get really bad, religious Muslims may start heading back overseas.

    Of course, this is all what concerns immigrant Muslims. As far as converts are concerned, consistently I have seen them much more confident and solid in their religious convictions. Likely because they don’t have an inferiority complex nor are they trying to act like they fit in.

    Peace.

  373. @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    No one is going to fight more Jew wars.

    The US diversity military and LGBTQI military isn’t actually capable of fighting one.

    https://m.sfgate.com/news/article/US-military-advantage-has-eroded-study-says-13390309.php

    The US has lost all 5 of its former monopolies:

    1. Monopoly on nuclear weapons
    2. Limited geographic accessibility by enemies
    3. Dominant industrial infrastructure
    4. High-average-IQ European population
    5. High-trust, high-moral Christian society

    https://blog.jim.com/war/technological-decline-3/

    “The combination of a 10-point loss in the average US IQ with the systematic diversion of its best minds to irrelevant financial scams and other trivial activities means that the USA is now both less-populous and less capable than China and less capable than Russia. That does not mean the USA is devoid of military advantages, after all, it still possesses a legacy military that is larger and better-funded and more technologically advanced than any military in history, but the rot has now gone from being institutional and societal to infrastructural.”

    And this phenomneon is due to the influence on the Jews & the left. Obama purged more then 50 senior officers and replaced them with traitors. Trump might have saved the US military – but it is still just a vehicle for max theft of taxpayer dollars.

    William S Lind and Martin Van Creveld are the scions of military strategy today, and a must-read.

    But here is the thing.

    No white person is going to fight a Jew war anymore. It isn’t going to happen. And now any draft would include women – so women have skin in the game and won’t allow it either.

    And if anyone wants to pretend Jews don’t dominate the US military – have a look at what the Air Force has to say:

    https://edition.cnn.com/2018/02/14/opinions/air-force-academy-superintendent-why-diversity-opinion-silveria/index.html

    Literally everything said in that retarded screed is nonsensical. If Native Americans had not been a separate nation, they wouldn’t spoken fricken Navajo. The bombing campaign was worthless with German production increasing during it. Women and Nogs had zero to do with Cold War tech achivements, and had women been flying in earnest a lot more then 38 WASPS would have died.

    It’s really interesting how the US bombers who bombed the Monastery of Monte Casino were ‘666’ Squadron – the Red Devils. Jews have always been prominent in the US Airforce.

    And non-whites are too dumb to actually be able to sustain a war of any length against any kind of sophistication.

    That’s precisely why the Neocons, cuckservatives and Hillary Clintons and Ben Shapiro’s of this world are demanding war incessantly because they know in a few short years the US military won’t even be capable of waging war. Even as they degrade it’s capabilities knowingly.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/04/opinion/let-transgender-troops-serve-openly.html

    There are nearly 20,000 transgenders in the US military. But we need far more. Muah!

    If they try and start a war where white people have to die to save other nations who hate them, it isn’t going to happen.

  374. Talha says:
    @Flint Clint

    It’s the economics that mean it isn’t going to work.

    I agree with this position here – ultimately, one can only serve one master. The one who provides calls the shots.

    When it finally comes down to a choice for whites between their pension of the Muslims breeding check, they’re going to choose to eat.

    Agree here too. One wonders, do the elite in charge know that the gig will be up so that they are bringing in more people as quickly as they can so that when a crisis happens they will be able to divide-and-conquer?

    One thing I know is that, making places like Lebanon and Iraq unlivable is not going to help the situation. People don’t want to voluntarily go back to places that have been destabilized by war.

    Where people like Anjem Choudary say committing theft and fraud is just taking the Jizya.

    That dude is a massive liability to our community and the UK in general – have they put him away yet?

    It’s not going to work. As I said – all of this nonsense is the product of economic plenty.

    Agree here too.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
    , @Iris
  375. @Abdullah

    A wholly local Islamic flavor must take roots in the community without those idiosyncrasies of the local culture but keeping the local ethos. This tends to make it stronger.

    I have nothing against muslims or your culture, but why would it be okay for you to usurp the local culture and replace it with yours? It can only breed resentment, no?

    • Replies: @Talha
  376. @Talha

    Honestly I’m not a vulgar racist.

    I have a relative who lives in the Emirates who converted and is doing very well.

    There is something about the descendents of Mesopotamia and the fertile crescent and old Araby, the best of them. A certain grace and civilization. I can understand the point of view of Liberals who only ever interact with the highest echelons of Islam. But that of course, isn’t the true Islam, being Cosmopolitan.

    Christianity is going to continue to fade. Our Lady prophesised it. It will get so bad that even the sacrament of communion will become unavailable, as a crisis in the Clergy and persecution of Priests leads to the end of grace required for consecrations. That has been foretold.

    Everything that avails the West is the result of sin, and it will continue to get worse, and worse again.

    The four consequences of sin will continue to manifest. The first being the denuding of the sensibilities. I imagine Muslims new to the West observe a certain deadening and denuding of the senses. A lack of vitality in Europeans. That’s due to our sin.

    But what was also foretold after a period of great disaster, tragedy and destruction is a Catholic renewal that will burn away everything that came before. Who knows that that will mean, but we can see the trajectory now as the Church is best by crisis after crisis and Europe has lost it’s soul.

    Christians will become like the Númenóreans in vast swathes of what used to be Christendom. Tolkein I think understood well the overall dynamics of the Fall. That’s why Lord of the Rings speaks so acutely to the soul of all western men. It’s the story of the metaphysics of the western world.

    It may well be that all the churches of Rome become Mosques. We will see.

    I just have a sentimental attachment to any underdog, and far from being privileged, I think I can see who is now the global underdog.

    Islam is beautiful in many ways, but Salman Rushdie did identify some core flaws.

    Poor white people.

    Anyway, peace.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  377. Iris says:
    @Talha

    That dude is a massive liability to our community and the UK in general – have they put him away yet?

    Anjem Choudary is a widely known MI5/Zionist asset. Just like his counterpart Tommy Robinson.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Flint Clint
  378. Talha says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    He’s talking about the part of local culture that is at odds with someone taking on the religion; for instance getting drunk and screwing strangers on Friday nights.

    Good parts of local culture should be kept and not replaced.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Cloak And Dagger
  379. Talha says:
    @Iris

    Wouldn’t surprise me one bit.

    Peace.

  380. @Iris

    The point is taken.

    However:

    NOP Research: 62% of British Muslims do not believe in the protection of free speech;
    Only 3% adopt a “consistently pro-freedom of speech line”
    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06

    http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY
    ICM Poll: 58% of British Muslims believe insulting Islam should result in criminal prosecution

    http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist
    Pew Global (2006): Only 7% of British Muslims think of themselves as British first (81% say ‘Muslim’ rather than ‘Briton’)

    http://pewglobal.org/reports/pdf/254.pdf
    Policy Exchange (2006): 31% Muslims in Britain identify more with Muslims in other countries than with non-Muslim Brits.

    http://www.policyexchange.org.uk/images/publications/living%20apart%20together%20-%20jan%2007.pdf
    BBC (2007) 74% of young Muslims prefer women wear the veil (compared to 28% of those over 55).

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6309983.stm
    Die Welt (2012): 46% of Muslims in Germany hope there will eventually be more Muslims than Christians in Germany.

    http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article108659406/Tuerkische-Migranten-hoffen-auf-muslimische-Mehrheit.html
    Ipsos MORI: Muslims are 3 times as likely as Christians to believe that their religion is the only way.

    http://www.christiantoday.com/article/religion.still.matters.global.survey.finds/28257.htm
    Pew Research (2011): Muslim-Americans four times more likely to say that women should not work outside the home.

    http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/section-5-political-opinions-and-social-values/
    Pew Research (2007): 26% of Muslim-Americans want to be distinct (43% support assimilation)

    https://selectra.co.uk/sites/selectra.co.uk/files/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf
    Pew Research (2011): 20% of Muslim-Americans want to be distinct (56% support assimilation)

    http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/muslim-americans-no-signs-of-growth-in-alienation-or-support-for-extremism/
    Pew Research (2011): 49% of Muslim-Americans say they are “Muslim first” (26% American first)

    http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/muslim-americans-no-signs-of-growth-in-alienation-or-support-for-extremism/
    Pew Research (2011): 21% of Muslim-Americans say there is a fair to great amount of support for Islamic extremism in their community.

    http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/section-6-terrorism-concerns-about-extremism-foreign-policy/
    ICM Poll: 11% of British Muslims find violence for political ends acceptable

    http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist
    Wenzel Strategies (2012): 58% of Muslim-Americans believe criticism of Islam or Muhammad is not protected free speech under the First Amendment.
    45% believe mockers of Islam should face criminal charges (38% said they should not).
    12% of Muslim-Americans believe blaspheming Islam should be punishable by death.
    43% of Muslim-Americans believe people of other faiths have no right to evangelize Muslims.
    32% of Muslims in America believe that Sharia should be the supreme law of the land.

    http://www.andrewbostom.org/blog/2012/10/31/sixty-percent-of-us-muslims-reject-freedom-of-expression/

    http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2012/10/poll-nearly-half-of-us-muslims-believe.html
    Pew Research (2013): “At least half’ of Muslims surveyed believed polygamy is morally acceptable.
    “Muslims in most countries surveyed say that a wife should always obey her husband.” (including 93% in Indonesia and 65% in Turkey).
    Only 32% of Muslims in Indonesia say a woman should have the right to divorce her husband (22% in Egypt, 26% in Pakistan and 60% in Russia).

    http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/Muslim/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf
    Die Presse (2013): 1 in 3 Muslims in Austria say it is not possible to be a European and a Muslim. 22% oppose democracy

    http://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com/2013/12/03/survey-on-islam-in-austria-18-of-muslims-support-death-sentence-for-apostasy-21-9-oppose-democracy/
    WZB Berlin Social Science Center: 45% of Muslims in Europe say Jews cannot be trusted.

    http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4092/europe-islamic-fundamentalism
    Vancouver Sun (2015): 42% of Canadian Muslims agree that Islam is “irreconcilable” with the West.
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/193969
    Anti-Defamation League (2015): 55% of Muslims in Europe are anti-Semitic – approximately three times higher than Europeans in general.

    http://www.algemeiner.com/2015/06/30/adl-poll-shows-more-than-half-of-western-european-muslims-harbor-antisemitic-beliefs/#
    Middle East Forum (2015): Muslims comprise less than 1% of the population in the United States but 9% of prison inmates.
    http://www.meforum.org/blog/2015/08/islam-prison

    There is just screeds of this kind of social science data, even though it’s actively suppressed. Even if Islam is generally right about the nature of women, it’s not right in it’s response to it (polygamy) which is the most societally corrosive form of socio-sexual ordering.

    Anjem Choudary probably is a Jewish asset. But it doesn’t change the incompatibilities. I could do another metre of them.

    (2016) 33% of Belgian Muslims “don’t like Western culture.” 59% would condemn the marriage if their child chose a non-Muslim partner.
    http://www.cecinestpasunecrise.org/content/uploads/2017/05/Noir-Jaune-Blues-Rapport-denquete-complet-Dec-2016-.pdf

    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/11782/europe-islam-polls

    Etc

    Pew Research (2013): Only 57% of Muslims worldwide disapprove of al-Qaeda. Only 51% disapprove of the Taliban. 13% support both groups and 1 in 4 refuse to say.
    http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/muslim-publics-share-concerns-about-extremist-groups/

    BBC Radio (2015): 45% of British Muslims agree that clerics preaching violence against the West represent “mainstream Islam”.
    http://www.comres.co.uk/polls/bbc-radio-4-today-muslim-poll/

    You are only going to see a continued hardening of attitudes from whites as the pathology of these perceptions in the Muslim community continue to play out.

    Anyway I’ll stop thread domming.

    But ultimately the West is not for Jews, nor Muslims. It never has been, and never will be, and if current trajectories don’t change, and the wrong approach continues to be taken of attempting to censor, suppress, oppress, and persecute, there will be some unprecedented and wild things happening in the next 25 years.

    Peace.

  381. @Talha

    Good parts of local culture should be kept and not replaced.

    With all due respect, Talha, and an absence of xenophobia on my part, I think it would be presumptuous of a foreigner to Sweden to place themselves in a position to pass judgment on the goodness or badness of a local culture that they are a guest of. There is nothing to prevent said judge from enjoying their culture in their own country of origin, but to try to change the culture of another country that they are a guest of, seems inherently wrong and divisive.

    While realizing that most immigration is motivated by economics (or zio wars), the only form of successful immigration to any country is assimilation into the host culture*. Zionist jews coming to this country and telling us to open our borders and become diverse, is probably a major cause for the tension that is fomenting in this nation. If assimilation is not desirable for the immigrant, I think the only reasonable venue for them is to return to their own culture. A woman who marries you knowing who you are and then immediately tries to change you into who she wants you to be, is seldom a recipe for a good marriage.

    There are many beautiful things about Islam, and I have learnt about many of them from you. I still reserve the right to protect the culture I have regardless.

    * When the rate of immigration exceeds the rate of cultural assimilation, problems occur.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Talha
  382. Seraphim says:
    @Flint Clint

    The Christ Himself prophesied that Christianity will fade:
    “Shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them? 8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?”
    The ‘poor white people’ signed their death warrant long time ago, when they renounced their faith in Christ and His Church and started worshiping the false gods of Judaism, Islam, Communism, even ‘whiteness’, blaspheming against the Holy Ghost.

    But “Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father’s good pleasure to give you the kingdom… But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him… Whosoever shall confess me before men, him shall the Son of man also confess before the angels of God: 9 But he that denieth me before men shall be denied before the angels of God. 10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven”.

  383. Harbinger says:
    @The Dark Night

    This is the problem here. Again, as previously stated a truth is anything a Jew wants to believe it as, regardless that it’s a blatant falsehood.

    He goes on there: “In truth, Kol Nidrei is a ceremony whereby all the perjury you will commit in the coming year and all contracts you will sign and violate in the coming year, and all the promises you will break in the coming year are absolved, with no heavenly punishment accruing as a result.”

    And here is how it is: “All vows, and prohibitions, and oaths, and consecrations” – not contracts or promises – “all of them are undone, abandoned, cancelled, null and void, not in force, and not in effect.”

    You somehow seem to believe that an oath IS NOT a contract or promise. It is.I’m frankly amazed that you could even contemplate believing that somehow THEY AREN’T! It was for this very reason, that Jews were never allowed to testify in a court of law in Britain, because the recital of the Kol Niedre made ALL oaths of the following year invalid, meaning perjury was permitted in a non Jewish court of law. I shouldn’t have to remind you that everyone, who stands up, as witness, in a court of law (common law and legal law here in the UK) does so under ‘oath’. That oath essentially means they are making a LAWFULLY BINDING VERBAL CONTRACT WITH THE COURT TO PROMISE TO SPEAK THE TRUTH.

    You are simply trying to play at semantics here and failing badly.
    Again, you are a liar. And you call other liars who clearly prove you and Jewry are.

    I am British. My first language is English of which I have a good command of. You clearly do not and I strongly suggest that should you wish to engage in debate and embroil yourself into arguments with people, then at least try to have an understanding of their language. You clearly do not understand semantics, within the English language. I suggest study first.

  384. geokat62 says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    Zionist jews coming to this country and telling us to open our borders and become diverse, is probably a major cause for the tension that is fomenting in this nation.

    Probably???

    • Replies: @Cloak And Dagger
  385. Talha says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    an absence of xenophobia on my part …I think it would be presumptuous of a foreigner to Sweden to place themselves in a position to pass judgment on the goodness or badness of a local culture that they are a guest of.

    You’ve always been respectful and nice to engage with, my friend. I appreciate this quite a bit.

    And I Completely agree – that’s why opinion should not be the judge but the sacred law; it passes judgment on what is good or not. Otherwise it’s just one persons opinion over another or one cultural preference over another. Somalis or Afghans should NOT be trying to turn Sweden into Somalia or Afghanistan – which is why I do not support mass immigration.

    to try to change the culture of another country that they are a guest of, seems inherently wrong and divisive.

    Not sure why. If people within that same culture can change it and criticize it, why not someone who has come from the outside? Now, if it was made clear to immigrants that they are coming into country X and are expected to leave their religious and cultural preferences behind and completely be absorbed into the native culture, then I can respect that. And honestly, you would only get Muslims immigrating that are fully on board to apostate and become fully assimilated and any that don’t would be found guilty of violating terms of admission. The problem is that none of this is being explicitly stated and if it assumed, then this is bad policy. Not too late to change it though; anything can be done via democratic means, even demands that Muslims fully assimilate to pozz culture or be sent home. All it takes is numbers.

    Like you stated about the analogy with the marriage, there is always divorce as a legal option when things get unbearable.

    When the rate of immigration exceeds the rate of cultural assimilation, problems occur.

    I agree. I am fully for Muslim integration and 100% against assimilation. I’m really not sure what benefits there are to fully assimilating into a culture that is currently in the state of many Western nations to be honest. I certainly don’t see any advantage to seeing my daughter swap out hijab and instead come back home nightly from her university in short skirts and the phone numbers of many young men I’ve never met on her phone – as with some of her female friends in high school.

    I’m also willing to be sent back if this is not acceptable to the host population – all I need are the official orders from the proper governmental authorities.

    Peace.

  386. @geokat62

    Probably???

    I try my best to not be absolute in my assertions, and sometimes I even succeed!

    • LOL: Talha
  387. Harbinger says:
    @The Dark Night

    Your belief is that the Protocols are a plagiary of Maurice Joly’s “Dialogue in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu” (1864)
    Again, this has been thoroughly debunked, but it’s something you will not accept. You either do not accept it, because you are a troll who is deliberately promoting the lie as a truth in order to further deceive the non Jew about their goals for world domination or you are simply, as a Jew, defending the Jews from attack, from the evil anti Semites.

    From the following website on the Protocols of Zion conveniently classified as anti Semitic, as all sources are that call out Jewish lies:

    Captain A.H.M. Ramsay records in his classic, The Nameless War: “According to a letter published in “Plain English” (a weekly review published by the North British Publishing Co. and edited by the late Lord Alfred Douglas) on 3rd September, 1921:-

    “The Learned Elders have been in existence for a much longer period than they have perhaps suspected. My friend, Mr. L. D. van Valckert, of Amsterdam, has recently sent me a letter containing two extracts from the Synagogue at Mulheim. The volume in which they are contained was lost at some period during the Napoleonic Wars, and has recently come into Mr. van Valckert’s possession. It is written in German, and contains extracts of letters sent and received by the authorities of the Mulheim Synagogue. The first entry he sends me is of a letter received:-

    16th June, 1647.

    From O.C. (i.e. Oliver Cromwell), by Ebenezer Pratt.

    “In return for financial support will advocate admission of Jews to England: This however impossible while Charles living.

    Charles cannot be executed without trial, adequate grounds for which do not at present exist. Therefore advise that Charles be assassinated, but will have nothing to do with arrangements for procuring an assassin, though willing to help in his escape.”

    In reply was dispatched the following:-

    12th July, 1647.

    To O.C. by E. Pratt.

    “Will grant financial aid as soon as Charles removed and Jews admitted. Assassination too dangerous. Charles shall be given opportunity to escape: His recapture will make trial and execution possible. The support will be liberal, but useless to discuss terms until trial commences.”

    Captain Ramsay quotes Isaac Disraeli, father of Benjamin, Earl of Beaconsfield, Britain’s first Jewish Prime Minister, in his two volume “Life of Charles I”, published in 1851: “The English Revolution under Charles I was unlike any preceding one . . . From that time and event we contemplate in our history the phases of revolution.” There were many more to follow on similar lines, notably in France. In 1897 a further important clue to these mysterious happenings fell into Gentile hands in the shape of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

    In that document we read this remarkable sentence: “Remember the French Revolution, the secrets of its preparation are well known to us for it was entirely the work of our hands.” (See Protocol No. III, XIV). In 1865 a certain Jewish Rabbi named Rzeichorn delivered a speech at Prague. It is a very accurate summary of many aspects of the Protocols which would come to light several decades later and was published eleven years later by Sir John Radcliff, who was assassinated shortly afterwards, giving testimony to the powers of the secret organisation of inner elite Jewry even then. The presumption is strong that the Protocols were issued, or reissued, at the First Zionist Congress held at Basle in 1897 under the presidency of the Father of Modern Zionism, the late Theodore Herzl. There has been recently published a volume of Herzl’s “Diaries,” a translation of some passages which appeared in the JEWISH CHRONICLE of July 14, 1922. Herzl gives an account of his first visit to England in 1895, and his conversation with Colonel Goldsmid, a Jew brought up as a Christian, an officer in the English Army, and at heart a Jew Nationalist all the time. Goldsmid suggested to Herzl that the best way of expropriating the English aristocracy, and so destroying their power to protect the people of England against Jew domination, was to put excessive taxes on the land. Herzl thought this an excellent idea, and it is now to be found definitely embodied in Protocol VI!

    The above extract from Herzl’s DIARY is an extremely significant bit of evidence bearing on the existence of the Jew World Plot and authenticity of the Protocols, but any reader of intelligence will be able from his own knowledge of recent history and from his own experience to confirm the genuineness of every line of them, and it is in the light of this LIVING comment that all readers are invited to study Mr. Marsden’s translation of this terribly inhuman document.

    Here is what Dr. Ehrenpreis, Chief Rabbi of Sweden, said in 1924, concerning the Protocols: “Long have I been well acquainted with the contents of the Protocols, indeed for many years before they were ever published in the Christian press. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion were in point of fact not the original Protocols at all, but a compressed extract of the same. Of the 70 Elders of Zion, in the matter of origin and of the existence of the original Protocols, there are only ten men in the entire world who know.

    I participated with Dr. Herzl in the first Zionist Congress which was held in Basle in 1897. Herzl was the most prominent figure at the Jewish World Congress. Herzl foresaw, twenty years before we experienced them, the revolution which brought the Great War, and he prepared us for that which was to happen. He foresaw the splitting up of Turkey, that England would obtain control of Palestine. We may expect important developments in the world.”

    And here is another very significant circumstance. The present successor of Herzl, as leader of the Zionist movement, Dr. Weizmann, quoted one of these sayings at the send-off banquet given to Chief Rabbi Hertz on October 6, 1920. The Chief Rabbi was on the point of leaving for HIS Empire tour of H.R.H., the Prince of Wales. And this is the “saying” of the Sages which Dr. Weizmann quoted: “A beneficent protection which God has instituted in the life of the Jew is that He has dispersed him all over the world.” (JEWISH GUARDIAN, Oct. 8, 1920.)

    Now compare this with the last clause of but one of Protocol XI.

    “God has granted to us, His Chosen People, the gift of dispersion, and from this, which appears to all eyes to be our weakness, has come forth all our strength, which has now brought us to the threshold of sovereignty over all the world.”

    The remarkable correspondence between these passages proves several things. It proves that the Learned Elders exist. It proves that Dr. Weizmann knows all about them. It proves that the desire for a “National Home” in Palestine is only camouflage and an infinitesimal part of the Jew’s real object. It proves that the Jews of the world have no intention of settling in Palestine or any separate country, and that their annual prayer that they may all meet “Next Year in Jerusalem” is merely a piece of their characteristic make-believe. It also demonstrates that the Jews are now a world menace, and that the Aryan races will have to domicile them permanently out of Europe.

    The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion are CLEARLY the Zionist agenda (Jewish) for the creation of Greater Israel (Oden Yinnon Plan) and the subjugation of the world’s peoples, under the control of Jews, through a one world government and banking system (Rothschild). Why would Jews, quote a Dialogue between Machiavelli and Montesquieu?

    The bottom line, Sagi Harari is quite simple. Powerful Jews created the protocols, ordered Joli to write his nonsense as the back up plan for “what happens when the protocols fall into the goyim’s hands?”

    I think you’ll find that Henry Makow clearly identifies as a Jew and not as a Christian, believing that Christ is NOT the messiah. He also promotes the holocaust and the German extermination plan, which is a lie, although he does believe the numbers have been greatly exaggerated.
    The holocaust regardless of being a religious idea or not, is a lie and never happened. It was created for many reasons, most notably, creating worldwide sympathy for the Jews, enforcing the right of the illegal state of Israel to exist, the creation of an industry that would rob people blind for years to come out of trillions and to cover up allied war atrocities and absolve western leaders of blatant criminality and treason.

    As for your links to talmuds, well, I’ll pass thank you. I don’t believe them, simply because the Jew lets the non Jew see one version, while making sure they never see the other. Were it the case that the talmud was not offensive or ‘stated’ too much, there wouldn’t be strict instructions to kill non Jews who happen to divulge themselves into its content.

    Look Sagi, I’m really getting weary of this stupid game of back and forth with you.
    You’re a Jew. The very makeup of a Jew is deceit.
    Your argument for the Protocols being a plagiary has been thoroughly debunked.
    Your attempts to call Hoffman and others who call out the Talmuds as liars, is itself a lie.
    Your belief that an oath is NOT a promise or a contract proves your inability to grasp basic English semantics.
    Your belief that the holocaust is a religious idea and not a lie, again, through simple maths can be easily destroyed (and has been).

    I will finish simply by stating that although at your poor attempts of patronising, you have been quite a respectful opponent. However, you’re simply going to have to accept that it isn’t a case of Goyim -1 Jew -0 but Goyim -4 Jew-0 in this debate.
    Let’s just leave it as it stands. There’s really no point in flogging your dead horse of a debate.

    • Replies: @Alden
  388. Harbinger says:
    @tac

    Thanks for that.
    I have done extensive research into the 6million lie.
    And the other day, it just dawned on me and I just shook my head. When I was a little boy, growing up, one of the most popular shows, here in the UK (and I should also imagine in the USA) in the 70’s was ‘The Six Million Dollar Man’ with Lee Majors. Blatant programming to keep the 6 million lie alive. Not the $5 million or the $7 million man but the six. And this has continued, throughout the last 40+ years of TV since then, with constant referencing to Hitler, the Third Reich, the holocaust in films and TV shows.

    What was it again that Goebels stated about constantly repeating the lie over and over again?

  389. Harbinger says:
    @AaronB

    Oh boy,
    This reply just takes the biscuit doesn’t it?

    “Look at this site – there are a handful of Jews here, but none of them express hatred towards other groups like what is expressed towards Jews, Hispanics, and blacks by the white nationalists here. Not even close.

    I’m an Israel supporter and Jewish nationalist – you will never hear me talking about blacks, Hispanics, or whites with hatred. I even am sympathetic towards Arabs, who are trying to destroy my country.

    Seriously? I mean seriously?
    The Dark Knight/Sagi Harari was entertaining. You’re just an imbecile. I’ll let others waste their time on you. I have enough already.

  390. @Talha

    You’ve always been respectful and nice to engage with, my friend. I appreciate this quite a bit.

    As have you, and earned much respect by employing that even when debating the many trolls that frequent this blog, irrespective of the duplicity and inanity of their posts. It is a trait that I much admire in you.

    that’s why opinion should not be the judge but the sacred law; it passes judgment on what is good or not.

    I think we are in the realm of ethics rather than law – which can never be watertight enough.

    which is why I do not support mass immigration.

    We agree, because mass immigration is the bane of rapid assimilation.

    to try to change the culture of another country that they are a guest of, seems inherently wrong and divisive.

    Not sure why. If people within that same culture can change it and criticize it, why not someone who has come from the outside?

    This would be in the realm of courtesy, if not of ethics. If I should become destitute, and you invited me to live in your home as a guest out of the goodness of your heart, I would not be presumptuous enough to believe that you had given me the right to instruct your daughter on whether she should wear a hijab or not, whereas you would be completely in your right to have that conversation with her. Your rights do not automatically transfer to me in your house, unless you explicitly confer them on me.

    Now, if it was made clear to immigrants that they are coming into country X and are expected to leave their religious and cultural preferences behind and completely be absorbed into the native culture, then I can respect that.

    Now we are back to the realm of law. Had you neglected to mention on inviting me to your home that I should never debate the wearing of a hijab with your daughter, would that be a reasonable assumption on my part that I should do so? Isn’t that the essence of a culture that certain practices are or are not permissible within it? I would assume that Islam has constraints on what you are allowed to do when you are a guest in another’s home.

    And honestly, you would only get Muslims immigrating that are fully on board to apostate and become fully assimilated and any that don’t would be found guilty of violating terms of admission.The problem is that none of this is being explicitly stated and if it assumed, then this is bad policy.

    I agree that it is bad policy and we have many of those and we don’t enforce the good policies either. You are on solid ground legally, but am I comfortable inserting myself into your home, knowing that you have established a modus vivendi for your daughter, and choosing to ignore that because you were not explicit?

    Not too late to change it though; anything can be done via democratic means, even demands that Muslims fully assimilate to pozz culture or be sent home. All it takes is numbers.

    You have stated that before and that is again back in the realm of laws. It now becomes incumbent as my host in your home to expel me. However, if I wanted to stay in your home and have an amicable relationship with you, particularly since you were so kind to let me do so in my hour of need, should laws be the authority to do the right thing, or should ethics prevail to guide my behavior?

    Like you stated about the analogy with the marriage, there is always divorce as a legal option when things get unbearable.

    Of course, that is the nuclear option. Basically, it dissolves a relationship that should never have happened in the first place. What explicit laws would have prevented me from marrying someone who is incompatible with me? If the woman knew before marrying me that I liked to live a certain way, and married me anyway, with the intent to change me, it is legal, but is it ethical?

    I certainly don’t see any advantage to seeing my daughter swap out hijab and instead come back home nightly from her university in short skirts and the phone numbers of many young men I’ve never met on her phone – as with some of her female friends in high school.

    That is your right. You came here at an early age so this doesn’t apply to you, but suppose you were to come here today, knowing that people disapproved of your daughter wearing a hijab (btw, I don’t at all), would you come?

    I’m also willing to be sent back if this is not acceptable to the host population – all I need are the official orders from the proper governmental authorities.

    I hope nobody ever sends you back since you are an asset to this nation, but we are back to the realm of law. With my earlier assertion that no laws are ever watertight, what ethical considerations should a host country demand of its immigrants?

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Talha
  391. Harbinger says:
    @Talha

    “I agree. I am fully for Muslim integration and 100% against assimilation. I’m really not sure what benefits there are to fully assimilating into a culture that is currently in the state of many Western nations to be honest. I certainly don’t see any advantage to seeing my daughter swap out hijab and instead come back home nightly from her university in short skirts and the phone numbers of many young men I’ve never met on her phone – as with some of her female friends in high school.”

    But the question simply is, how can one, not of that nation, history, culture, traditions and racial continuity expect and be expected to assimilate?
    How can you be expected to give up your culture completely and become ‘one of us’ when not only is it wrong to do so, but more so, becoming part of something you do not belong to?
    On the other hand, how can we be expected to accept cultural and traditional practices of immigrants, outwith our European heritage, which shares much common ground?

    I will speak of Islam here, as you are a Muslim, but I, of course, do not wish to attack it in any way, shape or form.
    For example, the consuming of pork has been part of the UK for thousands of years. It is a traditional dish and very much part of our culture. It is forbidden to eat in Islam and not long ago we had the madness of Muslim staff refusing to handle pork products in supermarkets and taking them to court.
    Already we are at loggerheads. This in itself proves that you cannot integrate into one aspect of our culture as not only would it be wrong for you to enforce your cultural beliefs on pork on us, but vice versa.
    Then, for example, we can take halal and the ritual slaughter of animals in Islam (Kosher in Judaism) which specifically goes against our humane slaughter of animals and animal rights laws.

    It is an impossibility to integrate peoples who do not share common culture and racial ancestry. Muslims do not. ‘X’ amount of years under British rule in India does not make you part of our culture, nor racial ancestry.

    And this, Talha, is the very reason WHY they brought in Muslim immigrants into the UK, first from Uganda in 1969 and then later on from Pakistan and Bangladesh. And in that time you have become one of the largest minorities in the capital city of the UK and the largest demographic in Britain’s second largest city of Birmingham.
    This is about creating conflict, war and bloodshed. It distracts people from attacking those behind the problems – Jewish bankers (Rothschild) and British Israel (Saxe-coburg-Gotha family/House of Windsor).

    I also fully agree with you that if you ‘could’ integrate, why would you want to in today’s, current, decadent west?

    The agenda was quite simple:

    1. Bring in mass immigration. Destroy the only British people, the indigenous, by granting citizenship and passports to immigrants and their offspring.

    2. Destroy all cultures and traditions of the British through mass immigration and debasement of culture through TV, MSM, Music and film industries.

    3. Cultural Marxist programming through Academia and the msm.

    4. Bring about civil war.

    5. Also debase the immigrant population who will then go back to their nations and infect the indigenous with the disease they picked up in the west.

    6. All at the time, the creation of Greater Israel and the mass movement of Jews out of the west into Israel. They couldn’t chase them out through two world wars, so instead they brought back the age old Christian and Muslim conflict and brought it straight from the middle east into the western civilization, giving Jews no choice but to flee.

    7. The world, by this time is all fighting with one another and Israel is busy setting up world government and its world banking system.

    Integration is impossible. You were never meant to. You were the previous avant garde of the New World Order to bring about warfare. Now it’s the feminists, the homosexuals and the transgenders who have taken over the mantle, all the while as immigration continues to pour in.

    There will always be the religious zealots. Anjem Choudary is a controlled MI5 asset, itself a traitorous organisation whose soul jobs are to spy on the British public and protect the Rothschilds and monarchy, while working in tandem with Mossad, the CIA, FBI and NSA, amongst other organisations in Europe and the west doing precisely the same.
    There is so much deceit, so much corruption, so much debasement and decadence in the UK and the rest of the west that the only thing which will cure it is the utter obliteration of it which I can’t foresee happening until one hell of a lot of bloodshed.

  392. Haha. America is a satanic state? Is America a satanic state for protecting Israel? Or is Israel a satanic state? It does have a satanic star of Remphan on its flag.

  393. anon[592] • Disclaimer says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    they are not europeans and thus not asimilable ,sorry to say it but middle eatern character dont armonize well with europeans .

    its that simple

  394. @AaronB

    I would like to give you and some other Jewish apologists the benefit of the doubt but then according to Gerard Menuhin, a Jew himself:

    Jewish huckstering is most obviously apparent in its frenzied compulsion to uphold the “holocaust” myth, whose exposure would not only refute the Jews’ claim to Palestine and to endless financial reparations and atonement for harm not done to them, it would also deliver Jews and their minions to the fury of a world deceived and victimized for centuries by their lies and conspiracies. Such wrath could only be assuaged by the actual extinction of Jewry—or “Jewry,” whichever applies.

    I myself am not a Holocaust denier nor a Nazi apologist but looking through Menuhin’s book Tell the Truth & Shame the Devil I can’t see anything there that UR’s regular Wally would disagree with. Now I’m not saying I fully agree with Menuhin and many others who have reached similar conclusions, but they have researched the evidence and concluded that it points in a certain direction and decided to come out with it in public despite all the disadvantages this exposure could bring to them. But you and some others quickly turn to just attacking blindly white nationalists when some Jews are also presenting the same arguments. As Gerard Menuhin concludes:

    In sum, from birth, humankind has two adversaries, an internal and an external one. The internal one consists of our weaknesses, arguably, those qualities that make us human. The external one consists of those who prey on these weaknesses: Jews. They prey on our benevolence and on our desires. They can do this with detachment because they have, by their own volition, and their own devolution, removed themselves from humanity.

    So is this anti-semitism? Or just humanism?

    • Replies: @Harbinger
  395. Alden says:
    @The Dark Night

    My only interest is affirmative action. And I found it in an 1890’s edition in the locked forbidden books section of one of the greatest libraries in America.
    I know what I read in the 4th protocol. I’m not at all impressed by your middle school google research.

  396. Alden says:
    @The Dark Night

    Killing the chickens is a Mizrahi, not a Sephardi ritual. You don’t even know your own religion do you?

  397. Alden says:
    @Harbinger

    French historian Abbe Barruel who observed the French Revolution was of the opinion that the revolution was a Jewish plot. He was there.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  398. Harbinger says:
    @Commentator Mike

    “I myself am not a Holocaust denier nor a Nazi apologist……”

    If the west, nay, the world is going to have any chance, whatsoever, of combating against the institution of a one world government and banking system, it MUST start dismantling the many lies that have been created during the last century.
    Therefore the mindset that you promote HAS to be utterly destroyed, not through oppression and force, but simply through truthful education.

    Firstly, there was no holocaust of Jews, that is, there was no ‘whole burnt offerings’ (sacrifice) of Jews to anyone. Jews, who happened to have been cremated in Auschwitz, were so due to death by typhus and starvation, as a direct result of allied bombing of supply lines into the camps. Others also died through natural causes and most certainly executed for, well, being the communists they were and wishing to destroy the German state. There was, however, most certainly a holocaust of non Jews – Dresden (along with other German cities), Hiroshima and Nagasaki where people WERE deliberately burned alive.

    Secondly, there was no extermination order and thus a deliberate targeting of Jews in WW2, by the Third Reich. There most certainly were thousands upon thousands of Jews, wishing to destroy Germany and thus instantly committing treason and subject to execution, as would be the charge in any nation in this world.

    Thirdly, if one does their research, one will easily find that there is absolutely nothing to apologise Germany for, for all they were doing was simply defending themselves from the attack on them by other countries – UK, France and the USA (amongst others). These countries declared war upon Germany. “But Germany invaded Poland” is the usual ignorant reply of the indoctrinated westerner, failing to understand that the west allied with communist Russia, also currently invading Poland at the same time and worse, already responsible for the murder of millions of Russians. Russia, of course, was under the control of the Jew, currently having gone through a Jewish genocide of non Jews, most notably the Holodomor of 1932, conveniently erased from history lessons. WW2 started for one, simple, reason – Hitler overthrew the control of the Rothschild bank over the German people, bringing in government backed notes and ending interest.

    Your stance is the ‘fence sitter’. You like to sit in a comfortable place, promoting your argument without your opposition having the ammunition to attack you as a racist, hater, nazi and anti Semite but in essence agreeing with much of your opponent’s rhetoric.

    The battle against totalitarianism will not be one by fence sitters.
    You’re going to have to make a conscious decision of where you stand in this war for the freedom of the human race. You’re simply going to have to ask yourself – “Do I wish to understand and live the uncomfortable truth, or continue with the comfortable lie and in effect ally with the assassins?”

    Lastly, even if it were true (although it never will be because it’s a blatant lie) that 6 million Jews were ‘exterminated’ by the Germans – so what? How many people died in WW2? Last time I checked there were over 100 million people. The aftermath of WW2; the allied atrocities on Germans is horrific, again conveniently left out of history education in schools, a curriculum completely under the control of Jews!
    WW2, as planned, has become a shrine to faux Jewish suffering. The murder of the 6 million takes preference over the 100 million+ non Jews who perished. It is a religion of Holocaustianity, that the west ignorantly worships, because people are too lazy to pull their heads from their posteriors and educate themselves on the truth.

    • Agree: Robjil
  399. Respecting a nation’s sovereignty ought to mean that a nation can protect not only its own borders and rights within its borders for self-determination, but also that it should be free to expose and prevent another nation or a group of international tribal money moguls from coming into your nation and using vast heaps of foreign capital to take over your financial system and buy up banks, the media, major industry, rail systems, and key politicians like they did in the US after the US civil war. Now they own and control pretty well everything for control, even most universities and the food industry. They tried to do the same in Russia after 1992 but when Putin came along he kicked the foreign billionaire carpetbaggers and bankster agents out. That is why both the hard-line and the more duplicitous so-called “moderate” Zionists are the main opponents to any true sovereignty of any nation except, of course, for Israel.

  400. @Harbinger

    Harbinger,

    We’ve been through all these arguments with various people here on UR so many times before and what you wrote is precisely as Gerard Menuhin writes in his book about telling the truth. Still I am not that convinced and it doesn’t matter to me as I can oppose Jewish domination and crimes regardless of whether they were themselves victims in the past or not. I wasn’t there, I know the truth is the first casualty of war, and that there was propaganda all around. Nevertheless, I am not prepared to reverse it all and accept the converse of the generally accepted view as being the actual truth. What applies to me is what you wrote towards the end (minus “(although it never will be because it’s a blatant lie)”??):

    Lastly, even if it were true (although it never will be because it’s a blatant lie) that 6 million Jews were ‘exterminated’ by the Germans – so what?

    • Replies: @Harbinger
    , @Zumbuddi
  401. Bookish1 says:
    @Harbinger

    Agree. Your post is proof that the truth has finally come out.

  402. Harbinger says:
    @Commentator Mike

    I am not going to go around and around in circles on this. I have debated this topic, so many times and laid it to rest, with simple truths and maths, to debunk the lies of the Jews and their shabbos goy, traitors in politics.
    There was no holocaust of Jews, not just in the very definition OF holocaust, but in a deliberate genocide of Jews. We are led to believe that Jews were deliberately targeted for extermination – genocide (which again is a complete lie) but what of those people who actually were targeted for genocide, the German peoples? Why for example are we not taught, in history of Theodore Kaufman’s book ‘Germany Must Perish‘?If ever you wanted proof for the deliberate genocide of a people, this is it, but again, it never even enters debate and if it does, instead of attacking Kaufman for his views, the individual who brought him up his for his ‘anti Semitism’.

    Jews were murdered in WW2. There’s absolutely NO DENYING that happened, but FAR, FAR, FAR more non Jews were murdered and yet Jews still take preference in persecution and suffering?

    People like you NEED to understand that by holding the views that you do, you are perpetuating the lies and therefore moving one step forwards and two back in your desire to expose lies and promoted the truth.
    You first have to understand WHAT holocaust means and it DOESN’T mean a genocide of people whatsoever. The Jew is incredibly efficient at twisting words and giving them knew meanings in order to enforce their agendas upon the non Jews.
    Secondly you have to realise that Germany was under attack from within and then from without. They were attacked, by the west, themselves fooled into doing so, for trying to rid themselves of a deadly parasite that was seeking THEIR genocide!

    Finally you will NEVER, oppose Jewish domination if you continue to believe in their lies as truths (holocaust). The Jew is not a victim. He’s a bully, a domineering hater of non Jews, who cries persecution after he/she’s just attacked someone. Victim status and persecution is simply the Jew’s definition of people fighting back against their oppression upon them.

  403. Zumbuddi says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Well said.

    No room for fence-sitting

    “Because you are lukewarm I will vomit you out of my mouth.”

    • Disagree: Zumbuddi
    • Replies: @Zumbuddi
  404. AaronB says:
    @Alden

    Well, I think that’s an excellent idea that should be developed on this site. I am sure Ron would be enthusiastic.

    I have said before that one should go through a list of every negative development in the West – and for non-Westerners, whatever is bad in their society – and discover that it is really the Jews.

    This site is basically for that purpose. Its to give you guys an outlet.

    To me, it is quite obvious the French Revolution was a Jewish plot. Unless, of course, you like it, in which case its suppression was a Jewish plot.

    • Replies: @Miggle
    , @Bookish1
  405. Zumbuddi says:
    @Zumbuddi

    Reply was intended for Harbinger, #404, #408.

  406. Miggle says:
    @David

    Yes, agreed.

    one of the worst evils imaginable: the centuries-old and wholly irrational hatred of the Jews.

    Is there a centuries-old hatred of Jews? Yes, over centuries there have been incidents in which people responded with hatred of … something. Was it hatred of Jews? Or were those guilty of certain actions, actions that were hated, too often Jews? Or is this the name given to the reverse, merely Jewish hatred, centuries-old aggressive hatred because things happened to Jews that happened to everyone, hatred that itself lasts for centuries?

    The Chmielnitsky rebellion, Cossacks and peasants killing many Jews. The most notorious example pre-WW2. Even, for Leon Uris in his Exodus (1958) the most notorious persecution of Jews in all history. (He also writes in another place in that book of “the dance of the six million”. I don’t know what he meant by that.)

    Were those Jews killed because they were Jews? The rebels overran at least one Jewish city (town) and left the inhabitants unharmed.

    Were the Jews killed even a high proportion of those killed in that rebellion?

    “wholly irrational”? There are cases of irrationality on the part of humans. Have been for centuries. But I’d like to see a few examples of wholly irrational hatred of Jews, of Jews because they were Jews, were guilty of that only.

    This Durocher is at this point looking stupid to me.

  407. Miggle says:
    @David

    The destruction of the Second Temple. Was that the result of wholly irrational hatred of Jews by Romans?

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  408. Miggle says:
    @AaronB

    To me, it is quite obvious the French Revolution was a Jewish plot.

    Wherever there is social turmoil and destabilization, a disproportionately high number of Jews jumps into it. If it was true of the French Revolution, as it was true of the Russian Revolution, it does not follow that they were in essence Jewish plots. It may simply be that Jews like such turmoil among the Gentiles. Woke? Woke what?

    • Replies: @Miggle
  409. Bookish1 says:
    @AaronB

    I was always suspicious that jews might have been behind the French revolution because there were so many parallels with that jewish bolshevik revolution. And with napoleon’s wars killing hundreds of thousands of young European men it seemed to fit right in for what jews have always planned for us. I read that the alpine genetic strain of the aryan race went extinct during those wars.

    • Replies: @Alden
  410. @Poco

    Gotta disagree. I worked for Satan’s Asshole, and his name was not Israel. He did vacation there, though.

  411. @anarchyst

    Wholeheartedly agree with you about the need for the church to abolish their foolish and odd celibacy requirement for clergy.

    They could also get rid of “THE Pope”, the office itself and most certainly the current occupant.

    • Replies: @Miggle
  412. Miggle says:
    @Miggle

    I said this:

    Wherever there is social turmoil and destabilization, a disproportionately high number of Jews jumps into it. If it was true of the French Revolution, as it was true of the Russian Revolution, it does not follow that they were in essence Jewish plots. It may simply be that Jews like such turmoil among the Gentiles. Woke? Woke what?

    Now I’m apologizing. It might be true. But some at least among the Jews jump in because they are concerned for the welfare of the many. I’m thinking of Trotsky, who I think was a good guy, within his limits, not concerned with creating turmoil among the Gentiles, but with assisting the poorer members of society to avoid being impoverished even more by the predatory rich. Same with Rosa Luxemburg, and no doubt other Marxist Jews.

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
  413. Seraphim says:
    @Miggle

    It was the result of the wholly irrational hatred of Jews against Christians. There is agreement among the ancient sources that the killing of James called the Brother of the Lord, the first bishop of the Christian Church in Jerusalem, for ‘breaking the Law’ in preaching Jesus Christ, was a principal cause of the Judaean War which led to the destruction of the Temple, viewed as divine retribution for the killing and profanation of the Temple.

  414. Seraphim says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    It is rather the ‘freedom’ to choose between the right belief and the wrong belief. Germans chose the wrong belief: “alleyn durch den glawben”.
    They are not an exception, of course: “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables”.

  415. Talha says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    You and Harbinger made some important points which I will address when I get some time.

    Peace.

  416. Miggle says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Wholeheartedly agree with you about the need for the church to abolish their foolish and odd celibacy requirement for clergy.

    They could also get rid of “THE Pope”, the office itself and most certainly the current occupant.

    I haven’t been following the thread and don’t know what particular issue you have with the current Pope.

    But people have been saying for 800 years what you just said, your latter point. The Romanist church, sect, had a pretense at counter-reform of 1554, their Council of Trent, which only made the Pope more powerful, and they also then made it their top priority to indoctrinate little children, a Jewish idea picked up by the founder of the Jesuits, Ignatius Loyola: control the children to control the parents through the children. Everywhere they are they have their own primary schools, by them for them.

    As for the celibacy, isn’t it just about giving the priest private access to every member of the family?

    So don’t be too hopeful. The Papacy is ALL about power and money. Think of the very word “catholic”, which means universal. One sect of (claimed) Christianity split off from the Orthodox Church in 1054 yet insists that it, exclusively, is the universal church, the whole church. By definition (theirs) there are no Christians other than them.

    I am even doubtful that their own laity are members of their church. I read somewhere that, according to them, the Church by definition consists of the Roman Pope and his subordinate hierarchy, and no-one else. That way, it is Universal.

    Foolish and odd, you say? They have a mountain of foolish and odd superstitions. They are all artificial, all about making the priests important. And the Pope more so. According to the New Testament, somewhere, a Christian who commits a sin must (?) should (?) confess that sin to another Christian. But they’ve invented the “sacrament” of the “Confessional” with the restriction that confession can only be made to one of their priests, making the priests very important. (But requiring that celibacy.) And then there is their “Mass”, already totally debunked as a fraud by the Paris Placards of 1534. It depends on the foolish and odd superstition that a priest but only a priest has the magical power to turn a piece of bread onto the body of Jesus, so Jesus can be re-sacrificed to God in the mouth of anyone who participates in the Sacrament of the Lord’s Supper. These invented superstitions are all about power.

    As for “THE Pope”, there were others. I read somewhere (can’t find it now) that in (from memory, approximately) AD 300 the Pope of Carthage wrote a letter to the Pope of Rome informing him that, in Africa, Latin was the language of the Church, and advising him that the Roman Church ought to drop Greek and make Latin its language.

    But, because it is all about power, eventually, of course, there was only one Pope, and it would be heresy to suggest otherwise.

    So, good luck with your idea, not novel, of getting rid of the office of Pope.

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    , @Flint Clint
  417. Seraphim says:
    @Miggle

    Talking about Christianity without the Christ won’t led you anywhere. It precludes any understanding of what Christianity is, the Church instituted by the Christ in which he dwells continuously (the Orthodox Church).
    The ‘sacraments’ of the Church have been instituted by the Christ. This is what the NT speaks all along, not just ‘somewhere’ that we don’t know even where.
    The sacrament (mysterion/taina) of confession is actually the sacrament of Penance and ‘forgiveness of sins’ (the original sense of ‘sin’ is transgression, failure) that only God and the persons to whom God gave this power (the priests, that is) can forgive. The penitent ‘confess’ his sins and his intentions to repent (metanoia – to change his mind, his ways) to God asking forgiveness and the priest prays: “May God Who pardoned David through Nathan the Prophet when he confessed his sins, Who pardoned Peter who wept bitterly for his denial, the Harlot who wept at His feet, the Publican and the Prodigal, forgive you all things, through me a sinner, both in this world and in the world to come, and set you uncondemned before His terrible Judgment Seat. Now, having no further care for the sins which you have confessed, depart in peace”. And the priest gives the penitent a ‘canon’ (prayers, good deeds, charities) to follow apportionate with the gravity of the sin, before he can participate in the ‘Mystery of mysteries’, the Eucharist.
    It is true that the ‘conspiracy’ of the Roman Popes and Frankish kings had twisted and perverted the real meaning of the Christian ‘doctrine’ (including its social and political aspects) and ‘sacraments’ to serve their worldly power. But the Protestant revolution replacing the ‘idolatrization’ of the ‘Body of Christ’ with the idolatrization of the printed word (the “Bible”), far from being a ‘return’ to the original Church, only carried further and developed the heresies of Papacy to their logical consequence (albeit unintended), open apostasy.
    Nobody asked where the money to print ‘Bibles’, pamphlets, placards and pay the propagandists came from.

  418. Alden says:
    @Bookish1

    Get to a university library and find Abbe Barruel. His books are on shelves full of books corroborating his view. It was a big interest of mine at one time.

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  419. @Richard B

    And by the way, weren’t Jews trying to convince us not that long ago that the entire Muslim world was antisemitic

    Probably

    and for that reason the American government had a moral obligation to bomb it into oblivion?

    Not

    The years 2019 and 2020 will go down in history as the years when we stopped listening to Jewish Supremacy Inc. and started openly defying it.

    Probably should have started listening earlier.
    https://news.gallup.com/poll/26677/among-religious-groups-jewish-americans-most-strongly-oppose-war.aspx

  420. Seraphim says:
    @Alden

    Abbe Barruel is on line. Free.
    Also: “PROOFS OF A CONSPIRACY AGAINST ALL THE RELIGIONS AND GOVERNMENTS OF EUROPE, CARRIED ON IN THE SECRET MEETINGS OF FREE MASONS, ILLUMINATI, AND READING SOCIETIES, COLLECTED FROM GOOD AUTHORITIES, BY JOHN ROBISON, A. M. (1798).

  421. @Miggle

    This is idiocy.

    Communion is modelled on the last supper, and linked to the Crucifixion. And the hosts do take on the properties of the body and blood of Christ.

    The reason the Priests alone have the power to transubstantiate is because holy orders connects them to Christ himself, who fouded the Church. The same for why the Priests alone can exorcise and grant absolution. It is via the Apostolic succession.

    Your idiocy that it is somehow illegitimate is inane.

    https://www.sfacatholic.net/why-do-catholics-confess-their-sins-to-a-priest.html

    Lol, your gay ugly protestant churches where some tranny person of colour wearing a sash pretending to be a Priest pats you on the shoulder and says ‘you’re cool’ is completely worthless.

    “And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” Matthew 16:18

    Until you have been in St Peters and St Pauls outside the walls you cannot truly understand the majesty of that succession. To be Catholic is to be centred in the true state of the universe in the battle of good and evil.

    https://aleteia.org/2017/01/05/between-flesh-and-bread-the-autopsy-of-a-eucharistic-miracle/

    DNA testing on consecrated hosts subject to alleged witness miracles had the very rare AB+ blood type.

    Not every host has this character, of course, but it hints at the idea of the forms – some take on their true form in rare circumstances. It amazes me midwits who claim to be smartie Pantsches can’t reconcile theology with the philosphy of Plato and even Aristotle. Nothing in the Church falls outside the realm of reasoning except at the very margins.

    The Orthodox Church is interesting. I trust Father Chad Rippeger who observes that it’s rites are simply incomplete.

    The Catholic Church today is extremely flawed – primarily because since Vatican II it has become increasingly Jewish and Protestant, there is little of Catholicism left. But what is left is still by the far the most compelling construction of reality I’ve yet found.

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  422. @Miggle

    Except he was acting on behalf of the money powers. Lev Bronstein was an agent of the Schiffs, and the Wardaus, and the Sassoons, and Rothschilds, and many others. There is never a concern for the ‘welfare’ of the many. That is not possible. Tikkun Olam is about subjugating the world and reengineering it to Jewish benefit.

    • Agree: Alden
  423. Seraphim says:
    @Flint Clint

    With all due respect for Fr. Ripperger, but he is wrong in regards to the ‘incompleteness’ of the rites of the Orthodox Church. As a matter of fact the Latin rites are ‘incomplete’.
    The most glaring example is precisely the Eucharist. The complete (i.e. ‘perfect’) rite is like that: the faithful bring to the altar the ‘gifts’: the ‘daily’ bread (i.e. leavened) prepared by them and the wine as a sacrifice of thanksgiving, peace and praise in memory of the Sacrifice of Christ on the Cross. The priest offers the gifts on behalf of the faithful and prays that the Holy Ghost descends upon them and transform them into the Body and Blood of the Christ (this is the ἐπίκλησις “invocation” or “calling down from on high”). Then the offerings are consumed by the priest and the offertants under ‘both species’, bread and wine, as the Christ enjoined at the Last Supper (‘drink of this ye all’). The Latins took out the leaven from the bread which is no more brought by the faithful, but prepared separately, diminished the role of ‘epiclesis’, forbade the wine to the faithful.
    Even the ‘Catechism of the Catholic Church’ obliquely recognizes its ‘incompleteness’:
    “1390 Since Christ is sacramentally present under each of the species, communion under the species of bread alone makes it possible to receive all the fruit of Eucharistic grace. For pastoral reasons this manner of receiving communion has been legitimately established as the most common form in the Latin rite. But “the sign of communion is more complete when given under both kinds, since in that form the sign of the Eucharistic meal appears more clearly. This is the usual form of receiving communion in the Eastern rites”.

    Another example is the Baptism. The complete rite is: triple immersion (that is what ‘baptismos’ means) followed immediately by Chrismation, the “seal of the gift of the Holy Spirit” (in Greek: Σφραγὶς δωρεᾶς Πνεύματος Ἁγίου) and Communion. The Latins replaced the immersion by sprinkling and delayed the Chrismation and Communion.

  424. ATBOTL says:

    “Attali ascribes opposition to Afro-Islamic immigration as a sign of a lack of French “self-confidence”…”

    This is the same line that neocons and globalist conservatives in the US use. Unfortunately, this concept that caring too much about third world immigration is some kind of “anti-American” pessimism does resonate with many grassroots conservatives here. That was the sentiment among many of the majority of conservatives who rejected Pat Buchanan back in the 90’s and supported Bush and Dole and Bush instead. Those people didn’t necessarily consciously support open borders, but speaking against open borders somehow made them angry at the person doing it. It was felt as rocking the boat by these types.

    I saw conservatives in real life react this way to anti-immigration sentiment in that era. Many older “boomer” conservatives, now in their 60’s and 70’s, still think this way, but many have also changed. I have seen the ones who changed discus how this “mandatory optimism” mentality played into their delusions on immigration.

    Evangelical Protestants in particular tend to think like this.

  425. @anarchyst

    The fact is, the Jews DID get the Romans to crucify Jesus Christ and DID accept full responsibility for his crucifixion and death. As is the case today, they got others (Pontius Pilate) to do their “dirty work” for them…

    Well, saving ungrateful heathen humanity from eternal hellfire and damnation is indeed hard “dirty work” but, hey, somebody’s gotta do it.

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  426. Seraphim says:
    @Reality Cheque

    But that wouldn’t save ‘them’. Did ‘they’ offer one of their own as a sacrifice for the salvation of mankind out of their love for the ‘heathen humanity’? Or did ‘they’ kill him in “the same way they persecuted the prophets which were before you”? On false charges of sedition and rebellion against the Emperor.

    “Woe unto you! for ye build the sepulchres of the prophets, and your fathers killed them. 48 Truly ye bear witness that ye allow the deeds of your fathers: for they indeed killed them, and ye build their sepulchres. 49 Because of this, the Wisdom of God said, ‘I will send them prophets and apostles; some of them they will kill and others they will persecute.’ 50As a result, this generation* will be charged with the blood of all the prophets that has been shed since the foundation of the world, 51from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah, who was killed between the altar and the sanctuary. Yes, I tell you, all of it will be charged to this generation*.…

    *τῆς γενεᾶς ταύτης (the meaning of γενεά, ᾶς, ἡ, is race, family, generation).

  427. @Ris_Eruwaedhiel

    Yeah. I’m familiar with the Sobran quote. I was just riffing on it a bit.

  428. Bookish1 says:

    True that jews got the Roman’s to crucify christ and it is the biggest proof that jesus was not a jew. Jews would never turn over one of their own to gentiles to be crucified and it wouldn’t matter what that jew did. Jewish prisoners in Americas prison system are considered to be captives by jews.

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