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Really and truly, I did not expect the most promising developments in West-European politics to come from Italy. Who could predict that the strange government appointed in June 2018 – an uneasy alliance of nationalists under Matteo Salvini’s Lega and the populist-but-vague Five-Star Movement – would last as long or achieve as much as it has? Italy’s parliamentary regime is notoriously unstable, governments falling with unnerving regularity, and yet this strange hybrid has gone from strength to strength.

The globalists – notably the EU institutions and the various migrant NGOs, many supported by George Soros’ Open Societies Foundation – had adopted a criminal policy whereby the goal of their operations was not to reduce illegal immigration but to “solve” the problem by “rescuing” migrants at sea, even if they barely left the coast of North Africa, and breaking down Europe’s external and national borders.

Locations of so-called EU “rescue operations.”
Locations of so-called EU “rescue operations.”

The Italians, suffering from the crushing burden of supporting an endless wave of economically useless and often violent African migrants, rebelled against this. In fact, the decline in migration had already begun under the previous center-left government, which had grown increasingly frustrated with the NGOs. In July 2017, Interior Minister and “Lord of Spies” Marco Minniti began the crackdown on NGOs which, in conjunction with other efforts, led to a sharp decline in illegal immigration by the end of the year. In this sense, the successful crackdown on illegal immigration has been possible as part of a national consensus that the country could not cope and had to actually address the root of the problem.

Illegal immigrants arriving in Italy by sea from 2016 to 2018.
Illegal immigrants arriving in Italy by sea from 2016 to 2018.

The overwhelming majority of immigration to Western nations is occurring because our governments are willingly allowing this happen, permanently changing the population against the will of their own citizens and people.

Since coming to power as interior minister, Salvini has built on the previous government’s efforts: preventing any return to previous levels (the social-democrats had not been firm on this) and further reducing illegal immigration to negligible levels. For this, his efforts must be saluted.

Illegal immigrants arriving in Italy for the January-March 11 periods of each year.
Illegal immigrants arriving in Italy for the January-March 11 periods of each year.

Furthermore, Salvini has adopted a much more confrontational attitude than his predecessors. Whereas the center-left was always embarrassed to have to take the “heartless” measures necessary to enforce Italy’s immigration laws and stop the invasion, Salvini has made a media spectacle of every step, rubbing the media-political elite’s faces in his successes. His popularity has only grown as a result.

This certainly has not been easy for Salvini. The elites hate him just as elites across the West hate all Western nationalists. Salvini has furthermore innumerable enemies among the old and decadent ruling class in Europe. When Salvini suggested that he wants to “help Italians to make more children” rather than import Africans, Jean Asselborn, the baby-boomer foreign minister of Luxembourg – a glorified tax haven – was so enraged that he was reduced to shouting obscenities: “Merde alors !

Many Catholic Church officials have turned against Salvini, including the archbishop of Milan and the Catholic weekly Familia Cristiana (who, though claiming to be good Christians, apparently have no problem with Europe, the heartland of Christendom, becoming an Islamic land, as happened to the formerly Christian Roman Middle East and North Africa centuries ago).

Fittingly for the land which produced the poet-politician Gabriele d’Annunzio, Salvini has not been averse to mixing artistry with politics. One American magazine got worked up because he quoted the American poet Ezra Pound:

Or in Pound’s original American vernacular: “If a man isn’t willing to take some risk for his opinions, either his opinions are no good or he’s no good.” Is Pound not a staple of American civilization, still taught in high school English literature classes in the United States? Or is his name being erased from history, too painful to hear for the left, along with those of Robert E. Lee and, soon enough, Thomas Jefferson?

The courts have gone so far as to prosecute Salvini for enforcing immigration laws by leaving migrants “stranded” on a ship rather than let them land in Italian ports. Fortunately, thus far his parliamentary immunity has been preserved, thanks to the support of his Five-Star allies.

Nothing great can be accomplished in this world except by overcoming great opposition. As Salvini said recently: “Tanti nemici, tanto onore” (Many enemies, much honor).

How does Salvini do it?

We cannot underestimate the power of psychological energy. Salvini thrives on his people. Il Capitano is constantly touring Italy, throwing himself into the crowds, shaking hands, kissing babies and grandmothers, making promises, drawing from the Life-Force, getting the power and confidence needed to fight off the nation-wreckers. (See, on this, the numerous videos and pictures he uploads.) Salvini also often gets a remarkably positive response from the studio audiences of Italian TV shows.

Salvini also understands the power of dogs.

Salvini is frequently the subject of vicious attacks, but he has a thick skin. He frequently shares the attacks against him on social media and responds with comments like “I don’t stop smiling,” “what a nice lady,” or simply “un bacio” (a kiss). By doing this, Salvini shows he is unaffected by and above such petty attacks. More practically, he responded to a “Fuck Salvini” graffiti in Brussels with a call on his supporters to give the Eurocrats a drubbing by voting for him in the upcoming EU parliamentary elections. All this can sadly only contrast with President Donald Trump, who not only has failed to deliver many of his campaign promises (above all The Wall), but resorts to attacking former supporters like Ann Coulter who dare to hold him to account.

Salvini has benefited from unique Italian conditions. Italy has, since the fall of Rome, never been the most organized country. The economic situation is poor and this no doubt contributes to Italians’ not being too comfortable and, therefore, a bit more “real” and self-interested than their naïve northern European cousins. Furthermore, there is something to what Ezra Pound called “the Mediterranean sanity.” Northern European societies, at least in modern times, have tended to be more rigorous and successful at whatever they put their minds to (see Germany: best at fascism, best at communism, best at capitalism . . .). But the northern European mind also tends to be unbalanced, too attached to abstract principles, lacking in common sense.

In short, there has never been such a taboo on far-right politics in Italy – even after the Second World War – as in Germany, Britain, or France. The comparison with France is instructive. In France, any alliance between the nationalist Front National and the mainstream conservatives was blocked at an early stage from the 1980s. This was in part due to the pressure of Jewish lobbying organizations: Le Monde reported in March 1986 that the B’nai B’rith “reminds the representatives of [conservative] parties of the pledges they undertook, during B’nai B’rith fora, before the community, . . . to in no case ally themselves with the Front National.” By contrast, far-right parties have generally been able to work with conservative parties in Italy.

Furthermore, and remarkably, Salvini is not governing as a junior coalition partner in a conservative government. Rather, the Lega is an essentially co-equal ruling party along with a populist party, the Five-Stars. The government has then been able to actually govern and deliver on their promises to their constituents.

I have long thought that nationalist governments, if given a chance, would be politically quite successful with voters. Why? Because human beings are on the whole inherently tribal and conservative – or nostalgic – by nature. Regular people don’t like to see their culture destroyed, their population replaced with strange aliens, their women raped, their people murdered by criminals and Islamic terrorists, or their nation dissolved. The over-educated media-political elites really are weirdos in this respect, completely out of touch with regular people.

Any government sending patriotic signals – authentic or not – is likely to gain politically as a result. People are reassured in the knowledge, or at least the impression, that their government is standing up for their culture and interests. But evidently, this is already too much to grasp for those who run the European Union or write for the New York Times. A patriotic government need only be honest: simply publicize the truth, highlight the reality of migrants raping and murdering our people – which occurs all the time – and you will begin to change public opinion. No one likes to see their women and children abused and murdered. Salvini did this just recently, denouncing a system which had allowed a drugged up and drunk Moroccan with a criminal record to kill two Italians with his vehicle and pledging with a Dutertist flourish to “wipe drug dealers off the face of the Earth.”

Salvini is not an anti-European, or even anti-EU as such, but has actively sought to work with European patriots in other countries. In Great Britain, the limp conservative government has gotten mired in an endless mess in its attempt to leave the European Union. In fact, renegotiating Britain’s economic relationship with a trade bloc ought to be a relatively minor matter and one of little interest to identitarians. By contrast, Salvini has insisted that he “believes in Europe,” has been conciliatory towards fellow European immigrants, and has cultivated ties with patriotic governments in Hungary and Poland. Salvini has notably called for the establishment of “an Italo-Polish axis”:

Poland and Italy will be the heroes of this new European spring, this revival of real European values, where there will be less finance, less bureaucracy, more work and more family, and above all more security.

Finally, Salvini’s core promises have been for the most part achievable. There is nothing difficult about reducing legal and illegal immigration. It is a simple and straightforward matter of will. Salvini’s successes in the face of the hostile metropolitan elites have galvanized his supporters. As a result, the Lega’s popularity has steadily increased. By contrast, Five-Stars has fallen victim to its vague ideology and unrealistic economic promises (while the government has managed to push through a deficitary stimulus budget, despite EU opposition, the country has still fallen into recession). As a result, Five-Stars have been suffering brutal losses in regional elections in Abruzzo and Sardinia, while right-wing parties have been going from strength to strength.

If an election were held today, a right-wing coalition (Lega, Berlusconi’s Forza Italia, and the far-right Brothers of Italy) would practically obtain a majority on their own. If the economic situation continues to deteriorate, it seems likely Salvini will ditch the Five-Stars and call elections at the height of his popularity, to form a coalition with the conservatives, Lega being the senior partner. This could enable Italy to then have healthy immigration and demographic policies, as well as the probably necessary economic reforms and stability to stem the country’s crippling brain-drain to northern Europe.

Salvini is now suggesting he will shut down the EU’s perfidious “Operation Sophia” naval mission in the Mediterranean, which had taken a leading role in encouraging illegal immigration. As one Italian official told Politico Europe:

Sophia was meant to fight people smugglers and ended up bringing 45,000 migrants to Italy. We can control our own border. We don’t need technical help to pick people up at sea.

And the magazine rightly observes that shutting down Sophia would strengthen Salvini’s hand before the upcoming EU elections:

It would trigger a predictable outcry from humanitarian campaigners and liberal-minded political opponents across Europe, burnishing Salvini’s credentials as the toughest fighter against illegal migration in the weeks before polling day. . . . Scrapping Sophia would be an easy way to manufacture a crisis and put migration — and Salvini — back in the headlines.

Say what you want about Salvini, he is a winner. And if I were to summarize his willing formula:

  1. Stay close to your people.
  2. Don’t let the haters get to you.
  3. Work with other opponents of the system.
  4. Simply tell the truth.
  5. Deliver on your promises.

Ave, victoria!

 
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  1. A123 says:

    Much of the article is sound and explains how Christian Populist movements are displacing Anti-Democratic Globalist elites.

    I’m not sure about this prediction though:

    If the economic situation continues to deteriorate, it seems likely Salvini will ditch the Five-Stars and call elections at the height of his popularity, to form a coalition with the conservatives,

    Much of the problem in ‘periphery’ countries comes from the German dominated EZ overvaling the Euro currency. As Greece shows, austerity is a trap not a solution. In order to form a stable government the Italian conservatives would have to become openly ‘anti-austerity’. It is not clear that they are willing to go that far.

    With open defiance of the ECB and EZ rules as the only hope for economic progress — 5S is likely to remain the most effective partner for Lega.

    _____

    Another thing to consider is what happened in the UK when May tried an early election to strengthen her hand. That failure strengthened the ‘punishiment’ faction in the EU and lead to the current Brexit impasse.

    The Globalists do not believe in democracy, so every election opens the door for them to steal a result by stuffing the ballot boxes. It is probably best to avoid early elections and minimize opportunities for Globalist corruption.

  2. Anonymous[314] • Disclaimer says:

    With a name like ‘Asselborn’ he should know all about merde.

    • Replies: @El Dato
  3. While not us current, official/legal immigration doesnt present a particularly great picture.

    Emigration of Italian nationals massively up in recent years…a significant Brain Drain, not unlike Greece…

    [MORE]

    2017: -72790
    2016: -76618
    2015: -72207
    2014: -59588
    2013: -53662
    2012: -38531
    2011: -18591
    2010: -11353
    2009:-9694
    2008: -7418
    2007: +394
    2006: -8642
    2005: -4665
    2004: +2639
    2003: +7664
    2002: +10420

    England has been swarming with Italians these last few years. I’m told its even more visible in Germany.

    European immigration down, massively from 10 years ago, though almost all of that is due to a fall in immigration from Romania alone. Not sure whats up with that. Romanians didnt get the freedom to move throughout the EU until 2014.

    NET MIGRATION OF CITIZENS OF OTHER EUROPEAN NATIONS

    2017: + 71,029
    2016: + 69,791
    2015: + 68,485
    2014: + 72,749
    2013: + 95,584
    2012: +128,796
    2011: +159,190
    2010: +196,783
    2009: + 196,063
    2008: +278.360
    2007: +368,498
    2006: +114,972
    2005: +127,554
    2004: +183,113
    2003: +217,636
    2002: +73,062

    NET MIGRATION OF CITIZENS OF AFRICAN/ASIAN NATIONS

    2017: + 160,914
    2016: + 130,903
    2015: + 121,410
    2014: + 113,328
    2013: + 120,807
    2012: + 130,108
    2011: + 130,970
    2010: + 152,813
    2009: + 131,742
    2008: + 123,907
    2007: + 76,012
    2006: + 78,646
    2005: + 89,379
    2004: + 124,809
    2003: + 112,692
    2002: + 63,597

    • Replies: @Guillaume Durocher
  4. LondonBob says:

    Italy is the most homogeneous countries in Western Europe, the Jewish community is minuscule and there is no other anti patriotic minority.

  5. truthman says:

    What has the current Salvini 5 Star government done about reducing legal non-EU immigration? They’ve done admirable work about illegal immigration, but its a two front war of course.

    • Replies: @Z-man
  6. Silva says:

    Good stuff, but do you have something to say on their domestic policies? (And I agree with A123 about the 5SM seeming to supply needed anti-austeritism.)

    • Replies: @Guillaume Durocher
  7. The strength of Europe is its diversity. At least if you think about a Merkel (or Juncker-) governed United States of Europe as an alternative to Orban, Kurz and Salvini (etc.).

    PS

    Steve Sailer was the only one, as far as I could see, who understood right away, that Salvini was the one man in the Italian government to make the BIG difference: Italy strongman Matteo Salvini – that’s how he put it right after Salvini started action in Libya, if I remember right (but I do, I – – – guess, no I believe I do).

    PPS

    Very astonishing, that the leftist and otherwise pretty green 5 Stelle behave so rational – especially if I compare them to other green parties, in Switzerland, Austria, and Germany.

    • Replies: @Guillaume Durocher
  8. @Roger Cliftonville-Acton

    This is a very worrying problem, no doubt.

  9. Is Pound not a staple of American civilization

    No idea about that, but it’s easy to suspect that Salvini quoted Pound as dog-whistling to the neofascists from CasaPound (not that I care).

    • Replies: @animalogic
  10. Matra says:

    A few weeks ago I was impressed to see a stall set up on Milan’s Corso Buenos Aires with Lega flags and about half a dozen volunteers handing out pamphlets pushing Salvini for premier. (This was on a busy Saturday afternoon). Why was I impressed? Well, because I don’t think you could have a similar stall set up on the Paris, London, Berlin, or New York equivalents of Corso Buenos Aires with pro-Le Pen/Ukip/AfD/Trump volunteers without a significant security force to protect them. Since there was nothing like that here I’m guessing Salvini must be pretty mainstream even in central Milan.

    • Agree: atlantis_dweller
  11. In short, there has never been such a taboo on far-right politics in Italy – even after the Second World War – as in Germany, Britain, or France.

    Different chronology. The authentic right (Movimento Sociale Italiano, MSI) was impossible to ally with, and subject to every kind of revilement as well as material threats and attacks in the period from WW2’s conclusion to the mid-80s.
    Someone was called a “fascist” meaning clearly that they did not belong to the human collective.

    The MSI were around 2-4% of the votes all that time while the Communist Party gravitated about the 30% threshold.

    This discrimination has subsided and slowly receding into oblivion in the last 25 years.

    ****

    The left-leaning Church-controlled magazine is Famiglia Cristiana.

    Overall you got an excellent picture of Salvini and Italy this time. However, why leave out the financial markets attacks the elite targeted this government with? I mean the manoeuvres through which they manage to make interest rates on national debt titles rocket up when a government is in office that doesn’t make friendly deals with them.
    That’s the trickiest issue, for today’s government now, for Berlusconi’s earlier, because the money that should have been allotted to fuflil programmed goals goes, largely, to state debt payment.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Guillaume Durocher
  12. Alfa158 says:

    “Ave victoria”. I’m all for that, but it’s really going to light some people up once they translate it to German!
    The way things are going in the US compared to Italy, I am starting to ponder the logistics of “de-emigrating” back to Italy.

    • Replies: @Guillaume Durocher
  13. anon1 says:

    The true villain here is Jews. Not as individuals but as organized globalist groups.

  14. @A123

    “Much of the problem in ‘periphery’ countries comes from the German dominated EZ overvaling the Euro currency. ” I agree with this, but I suspect you mean Germany uses the Euro to under value it’s exports. That is, Germany, via a lower valued Euro (as compared to what a German Mark would likely value out at — theoretically, at least) can sell more cars etc because the Euro is cheap re: (say) the US $.
    You are also right about early elections & the dangers of ditching 5S for Conservative parties. Imagine going into government with Berlusconi, Mr boonga-boonga- it would be political suicide. Do for Lega what going into coalition with the Tories did for the UK Liberals.
    Sometimes it’s better to act with a restraining partner….

    • Replies: @A123
  15. @German_reader

    Pound was a great modernist poet — however he wrote at the same period as an even greater US modernist poet: T.S Eliot.

  16. “The over-educated media-political elites really are weirdos in this respect, completely out of touch with regular people.”

    That’s giving them the benefit of the doubt: It could really be that they are Criminal Elite weaponising migrant invaders to reduce their native populations to poverty and insecurity to strip them of any remaining assets and liberties they had gained since the end of Feudalism.

    • Replies: @Guillaume Durocher
    , @m___
  17. A123 says:
    @animalogic

    The currency problem bites both ways. It is simultaneously overvalued for periphery use and undervalued for German use.

    A vacation to Greece should be inexpensive, however the over valued Euro makes that trip expensive. The vacationers go elsewhere and the Greek economy loses out.

    Similarly, German trade practices “always surplus” mean that the Riech Mark should have a high value. However, the Euro keeps this increase in valuation happening, fundamentally subsidising the German economy at the expense of other EZ nations.

    • Replies: @A123
  18. A123 says:
    @A123

    the Euro keeps this increase in valuation happening,

    Poorly written on my part. I should have said it as:

    “… the Euro prevents this increase in valuation from happening, “

  19. Jason Liu says:

    Seems to be missing the important last step:

    6. Purge leftists from society

    If not the problem will just come back after Salvini is gone

  20. m___ says:

    On Italy, Salvini,

    Not the complete package, nor can “Italy” as a territory be elevated to international action. But seen the total context. Salvini, the better bet for now.

    The real problem of migration ( as some eloquent commenter mentions the in AND the out), is global populations, proportionality of global populations, both inferred from the global financial system ultimately. If the subject stays taboo, there is no generational solution in view.

    Africa, is the hunting grounds, many things are consequences, and have their causes in European and Russian, US and Chinese interferences. That is not to say that there should be none, but the globalism in reflected reality is far different from a sane, long term planetary overview, goals, ideas and concepts of value.

    Still globalism of sorts must be. Air and water, toxic waste makes territory as a concept of local risible. Automation and other factors make for human masses that are, on an individual basis, regardless of groupings, liabilities not assets. The worse can be seen, for one, in continent Africa the backyard of Europe well merited.

    • LOL: apollonian
  21. @LondonBob

    I thought Jewish tentacles stretched everywhere, hence being homogeneous was no protection from globalist policies? This was the bracket people explanation for Sweden’s liberal immigration policies prior to 2015.

    Also, the Jewish population in New Zealand is minuscule but that doesn’t stop liberal WASP kiwis from supporting mass immigration.

    Another explanation is that Italy is a relatively insular manufacturing nation which isn’t into the “invite the world, invade the world” mentality of quasi-imperialist America, Britain and France.

    • Replies: @neutral
    , @Corvinus
    , @anon1
  22. Beckow says:

    Salvini is great and the EU elections in May are crucial – a make or break moment for EU. If the globalist parties continue to keep a huge majority in Brussels, Europe might not be salvageable.

    One thing that Salvini hasn’t done is to address aggressively the illegal population already in Italy – at least half a million illegals. Due to the magic of chain migration if the illegals stay, all of Salvini’s other efforts keeping the boats awa will be swamped by the eventual massive chain migration.

    • Agree: Z-man
  23. @LondonBob

    Italy is also a simple manufacturing nation: they make stuff, grow stuff, and host tourists. Hence, they may like a little cheap foreign labour, but they don’t see immigration as part of their foreign policy.

    In Britain and America, immigration is seen as an complement to neo-imperialist foreign policy and soft power BS:

    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/03/immigrants-america-foreign-policy-advantage/557018/

    • Agree: L.K
  24. utu says:

    I always counted on Italians. I knew they won’t put up with the BS. Did not know it had a name: ‘Ezra Pound called “the Mediterranean sanity.”’

    New mafia-led militia may be stopping refugees from leaving Libya for Italy
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/mafia-refugees-libya-italy-stop-leave-militia-mediterranean-crossing-sabratha-migrant-boats-a7906666.html
    Sources told Reuters a “former mafia boss” is leading a group of several hundred policemen, army officials and civilians as part of a “very strong campaign” to stop boats taking off from Sabratha, an ancient city 45 miles west of Libya’s capital, Tripoli.

    Anyway, good article. We need more article about what is happening in Europe form this writer.

    P.S. Any opinion on what Steve Bannon is up to?

    Italian monastery turns into hotbed of Bannon-fueled nationalism
    https://www.dw.com/en/italian-monastery-turns-into-hotbed-of-bannon-fueled-nationalism/a-47930804

    Steve Bannon drafting curriculum for right-wing Catholic institute in Italy
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu-politics-bannon-catholics/steve-bannon-drafting-curriculum-for-right-wing-catholic-institute-in-italy-idUSKCN1LU176

    Steve Bannon backs “gladiator school” to bolster Europe’s right wing
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/steve-bannon-trisulti-italy-benjamin-harnwell-school-bolster-europe-right-wing/

    Who is Benjamin Harnwell and who is paying for the project?

    • Replies: @Guillaume Durocher
  25. utu says:
    @atlantis_dweller

    However, why leave out the financial markets attacks the elite targeted this government with? I mean the manoeuvres through which they manage to make interest rates on national debt titles rocket up when a government is in office that doesn’t make friendly deals with them.

    Is it happening?

    • Replies: @Anon
  26. eah says:

    It’s all so pathetic — you ‘win on immigration’ by acknowledging the obvious: you cannot allow your country to fill up with 70 IQ Africans; you cannot betray future generations of your people by watching and doing nothing as it happens — so you ignore the whiny women and betas, and forcefully remove those already present — then forcefully prevent more of them from coming — even the Italian military ought to be able to manage that.

    • Replies: @mr meener
  27. How to win on immigration?
    Remove the jews and jew money.
    Problem solved.

    • Agree: anon1
  28. @A123

    With open defiance of the ECB and EZ rules as the only hope for economic progress — 5S is likely to remain the most effective partner for Lega.

    I am not sure about this. *Leaving* the Eurozone could be great for Italy’s competitiveness and debt-reduction. But breaking the rules from the within? Does not lead anywhere, unless you’re trying to collapse the system (could be!).

    • Replies: @A123
  29. @Silva

    Too soon to say. The government has improved media/ideological pluralism (appointing a former RT journalist to head a national media) and Salvini has talked about increasing the birth rate. I am not aware of everything however.

  30. @Dieter Kief

    M5S is really unique. They seem like the Italian version of the Alt-Lite in many respects: disgruntled “woke” anti-establishmentarians with anotherwise vague ideology. I generally do support their measures for increasing civic engagement and transparency, and if they are free-thinking enough to work with the Right, more power to them!

    • Replies: @Dante
  31. @atlantis_dweller

    Thank you for these historical precisions. I don’t feel qualified to talk about the causes of the financial market fluctuations. How much is due to globalist/EU hostility, how much due to “natural” market factors, reflecting political and economic uncertainty? Difficult to say, at least for me. In the end, the government’s popularity was reinforced by the crisis and it managed to push its budget through, with an only slight decrease in deficit level.

  32. @Alfa158

    If you can speak basic Italian and find a job, why the heck not? It’s a fantastic country.

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    , @Cowboy
  33. @The Alarmist

    While I can’t speak for the criminal elite, the metropolian middle classes – the top 20%, so to speak – really believe this stuff and are out of touch with their compatriots.

    • Agree: Dieter Kief
    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    , @The Alarmist
  34. jdoyle says: • Website

    how to “win” on immigration? how about how to grind the enemy to dust? “winning” is like being 2 seconds ahead of the competion, but nonetheless they get a prize.

  35. Africa, is the hunting grounds, many things are consequences, and have their causes in European and Russian, US and Chinese interferences.

    Yes, we should really stop “interfering” when famine and disease strike in Africa, and just let nature sort out their dysgenic reproductive issues.

    • Agree: VagabondTheElder
  36. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:

    The CCP Soyuz Soviestskii Respubliki of USA&EU is going down the hill , the tiranic USA&EU elites are killing their own countries , their own citizens . Sooner or later there will be some reaction , or if there is no reaction there will be a collapse , soviet style , or argentinian style .

  37. m___ says:
    @The Alarmist

    That’s giving them the benefit of the doubt: It could really be that they are Criminal Elite weaponising migrant invaders to reduce their native populations to poverty and insecurity to strip them of any remaining assets and liberties they had gained since the end of Feudalism.

    Indeed and many other tactics, short term patches for mending will follow. Now understand us right, power politics, the art of the possible to advance elite interests, has not thought this “problem” through.

    What is the problem: financial capitalism needs a growing global population ultimately. Well it does not, and the elites do not seem to grasp this. The systemics should change, that would de-stress global populations, rewire them, and ultimately reduce numbers. …To the point where global population numbers are assets again, as hard-wired into the human psychology, and not the liabilities they, the global masses, represent today. Commoners do not instinctively understand this, offer (growing world populations) ultimately diminishes value …to the point of even a twenty seven year old middle class youngster, university educated, becomes a liability. Rewiring the masses is risible. Rewiring the elites, is the only option.

    Not climate change (a partial off-shoot) but global human numbers, proportionality and toxicity (derivatives of “heated” financial transactions) will be solved only by paying attention to above. Will this be the twist, and better still, will the U-turn be timely? Well, the hope in the short term of understanding human genetics and it’s biology, and what can be called the precursor of AI, (big data analysis) are about our only hopes.

    To be discouraged, the short term patch of Universal Income, to us, for reasons of not coping with the decrease of human creativity per capita. To be discouraged, war, since it has a disproportional impact of derivatives versus outcome, to the point past being obsolete.

    This is a comment, a mere hint into possible venueways.

  38. Sean says:

    https://www.ft.com/content/c8772236-2b93-11e8-a34a-7e7563b0b0f4

    Why are Germans so obsessed with saving money?

    . https://www.forbes.com/sites/annalisagirardi/2018/12/17/understanding-the-huge-italian-public-debt-as-a-legacy-of-the-oil-crisis/#3a07b1801284

    Since the new Government established into power the past June, Italy’s new Budget Law was a recurring source of confrontation with Brussels, and the conflict had also much to do with one of the world’s highest public debt.Italy is one of the most indebted countries in the world, with a public debt at 132,6% of its GDP. Italian public debt has been a financial problem for decades, and the current political situation lacks commitment to budget discipline, troubling even more reduction prospects

    German savings are like Italian debt, a weapon to use against other countries. Italy is a master of Donald Trump’s strategy. He would tell creditors that if they asked for everything he will go bankrupt and they will get nothing. The perpetual instability and financial fragility of Italy means their major creditors France (French banks hold massive Italian debt as assets) and thus the reluctant Germans are forced to make concession after concession to Italy. Non EU immigration is no part of what EU members signed up to and everyone wants Italy wants to stay in the EU, and Italy has a powerful ultimate weapon in the threat that failing to support Italy would crash the French and then European economy.

    Britain left the EU over EU immigrants (Poles ect) who were came in vast numbers and profoundly affected the supply and demand of labour and thus wages . It was always unrealistic to think that any trade deal could be easily done without conceding freedom of movement–a single market for labour, which is what the Brexit was suposed to end. It was always naive to think that France and Germany were going to let Britain make a success of Brexit; that would just encourage others (eg Sweden) to do the same thing, wouldn’t it?

    • Replies: @Anon
  39. @Guillaume Durocher

    With Switzerland being one of the interesting exceptions (with the direct democracy making a big difference in this case – it just does not let the 20 per cent so easily from the hook).

    So – no Yellow Vests there, because nobody needs them. Carpenters, who make a living quite nicely. Steve Sailer’s family affordance aspect – if quantified, would see the Swiss carpenter or the Swiss farmer or the train conductor or bus-driver way ahead – not only from their French and German contemporaries but also from the US American ones.

    • Agree: Guillaume Durocher
    • Replies: @Miro23
  40. neutral says:
    @unpc downunder

    Both New Zealand and Australia are ultra American arse lickers, in fact I cannot think of any other nation that does it more severely than those two. Literally everything the US demands from them they do, even the UK had some spine by not joining the Vietnam war. Italy is way more independent, while those two are essentially US thralls, which really makes them thralls to the jews.

    • Replies: @Whitewolf
  41. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:

    Gadaffi was preventing a lot a african inmigration to Europe , when NATO ( mainly France and USA ) bombed Libia to ruins , the door to emigration was open . The inmigration hit mainly Italy , and also the war destroyed the profitable trade relations of Italy with Libia .

    The italians are fed up with french ennemies ( pardon , ” allies ” ) , and with american ” friends ” , Only american idiots bomb or sanction friends or potencial friends , although , as Hillary says, they get a kick out of it .

    Hillary boasted about killing libians

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlz3-OzcExI

  42. Renoman says:

    Common sense rising, good. These Globalist assholes should be taken out and shot.

  43. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    ” Why are germans so obssesed with saving money ” ?

    because they are an obssesive-compulsive nation , plenty of obssesive compulsive people , see the criteria of obsessive-compulsive personality disorder . Nations have neurotic traits ,as well as individuals , every nation has her traits .

    DSM IV – TR Criteria

    A pervasive pattern of preoccupation with orderliness, perfectionism, and mental and interpersonal control, at the expense of flexibility, openness, and efficiency, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by four (or more) of the following:

    (1) is preoccupied with details, rules, lists, order, organization, or schedules to the extent that the major point of the activity is lost

    (2) shows perfectionism that interferes with task completion (e.g., is unable to complete a project because his or her own overly strict standards are not met)

    (3) is excessively devoted to work and productivity to the exclusion of leisure activities and friendships (not accounted for by obvious economic necessity)

    (4) is overconscientious, scrupulous, and inflexible about matters of morality, ethics, or values (not accounted for by cultural or religious identification)

    (5) is unable to discard worn-out or worthless objects even when they have no sentimental value

    (6) is reluctant to delegate tasks or to work with others unless they submit to exactly his or her way of doing things

    (7) adopts a miserly spending style toward both self and others; money is viewed as something to be hoarded for future catastrophes

    (8) shows rigidity and stubbornness

    • Replies: @Matra
  44. @LondonBob

    “…there is no other anti patriotic minority.”

    There are two other minorities worth mentioning in the region, one anti-patriotic and still powerful, the other patriotic and currently acquiescent in light of their autonomous status.

    As the article suggested, within Rome there is the influential Vatican, whose head is basically “globalist” and thus pro-immigration, as long as the immigrants don’t actually live within the secure walls of its domain. (Every night plenty of homeless people sleep on the extreme eastern periphery of the eastern Vatican territory, in the tourist area, beyond the aluminum security barriers.)

    More importantly, there remains a patriotic minority of German-speaking Tyroleans in the northern Alpine region of South Tyrol, within the province of Alto Adige. This territory was taken from Austria a hundred years ago, but the people there are to be eligible for Austrian citizenship. If the northern regions of Veneto and Lombardy ever cede from Italy, a desire that has been evident on economic grounds, as in Catalonia and Scotland, most of the South Tyrol region would then likely rejoin the rest of Tyrol in Austria.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trentino-Alto_Adige/Südtirol

  45. @Guillaume Durocher

    Bourgeoisie, copying the dress and hairstyles of the King and Queen, but not quite understanding where they are going.

    Les paysans n’ont pas de pain? Qu’ils mangent de la brioche.

    Excusez-moi pendant que je lève mon pont-levis.

  46. “the Mediterranean sanity.”

    How about the “Alpine Golden Mean”

    The sane, effective, patriotic Europeans (Navarre – Vox stronghold, Provence – National Front stronghold, Lombardy – League stronghold, Switzerland – People’s Party anti-immigration referendums, Austria – Freedom Party, V4, East Slavs) are located in between the ethno-masochist Nordics (Britain, Paris, Benelux, Germany, Scandinavia) on the one hand and the apathetic Mediterraneans (Andalusia, Sicily, Balkans) on the other.

    Maybe because during the Medieval/Early-Modern Era, the Mediterraneans were broken by Islamic conquest, while the Nordics were insulated from Islamic attack by geography, but the Alpines successfully repelled Islamic invasions.

    Thus delusional Nordics divorced from reality, Mediterraneans cynically accepting reality, and spirited Alpines working to build a better reality.

    • Replies: @Anon
  47. Cowboy says:

    “The overwhelming majority of immigration to Western nations is occurring because our governments are willingly allowing this happen”

    Brexit is happening because the English were fed up with their governments INABILITY to stop the flood. All these directives are coming from the EU and the UN and extreme political pressure is being applied too. Just look at Hungary, who the EU is threatening to throw out the parliament because the refuse to accept their “quota”. The same applies to all the Visigard countries who are constantly being bullied by the EU to accept their quotas. Governments of many smaller countries, like Austria and Denmark would be delighted if the EU lightened up on the invasion throttle.

    In Germany, still under American occupation, with an American Constitution, and a legal system set up by Americans, the government doesn’t even have to both to manufacture consent. All they do is crack the old holocaust whip a few times, and the Germans are again performing like tamed lions.

    In France, the EU bride, the government is struggling desperately to keep the EU project on track, so they do not dare blatantly act counter to EU directives. But the fact that they have to prosecute Le Pen for an “anti-islamic” social media post shows you the Macron does not represent a legitimate government.

    The sooner the US and the EU collapse, the better it will be for all white people in the long run.

    • Replies: @Beckow
  48. onebornfree says: • Website

    Salvini = just another scam artist.

    Idiots who can’t/don’t want to run and be responsible for their own lives continue to fall for scam artists promising a new utopia via government. So idiots deserve to get reamed, by scam artists like Salvini etc. yet again.

    On the plus side, it does make good entertainment for a while.

    Break up Italy -its another failed nation-state, just like all the rest.

    Regards, onebornfree

  49. A123 says:
    @Guillaume Durocher

    In a fair world Leaving would have the effect you describe. However, “fair” is not a good term for the EU. Just look EU attempts to punish the UK. Leaving would likely be a fatal error handing power to unelected EU bureaucrats and courts.

    Every Euro denominated contract would still be payable in Euros under EU law. It is not just government debts to consider, all of the individuals and companies with cross border financial transactions would need to be worked out. And, given German unfairness and hostility towards “leavers” it is unlikely that a reasonable accommodation could be reached.
    ____

    You are much closer to my intent with “trying to collapse” though I would slightly amend that to “threatening to collapse”.

    Let us consider the strategy — “Open Defiance” while officially & legally remaining. This stance opens a large number of new options. Including but not limited to:
    (1) Electronicially creating Euros
    (2) Printing mass quantities of Italian bills
    (3) Printing mass quantities of Euros in other national formats

    The EZ mechanism has only fines to keep members in line. So envision the cycle where the EZ levels a fine and Italy uses #1 to increase the money supply and pay the fine with new money. Theoretically, that is not allowed. However — What can the EZ do? Level more fines? Those fines would just be paid with more “newly created money”.

    Option #3 has even more colorful opportunities. Produce large numbers of wheelbarrows labelled Merkel-barrows. Print large quantities of German pattern Euros. Place them in the Merkel barrows and begin transacting them the way the German currency was used in the failing Weimar days. The reaction from the German people would be histrionic at a minimum. Maybe enough to get Germany to reintroduce the Mark.

    Create your own scenarios. There are assumptions built into the EZ framework. A nation willing to openly work outside of those assumptions obtains massive leverage to reform or force the end of the system
    ____

    Many readers are thinking, “Why not eject Italy from the Euro?”

    The answer is, “Their is no legal mechanism to do so.”

    Irrevocable commitment to the Euro is baked into the EU concept. The EZ is built as a temporary construct intended to last separately from the EU only until all member nations are “ready” to convert to the common currency. There is no stand alone EZ/Euro exit mechanism. It appears that he only way to force a country off the Euro is to force it entirely out of the EU. Badly written? Yes. Are you surprised? Look at how badly Article 50 is written for the EU. The EZ is an even more shoddy construct.

    The most severe EU punishments require unanimity. So a single nation can protect Italy… Cyprus, Greece, Hungary, Poland…. Pick one or make another choice. The anti-democratic behavior of Germany and France have angered so many nations it is hard to see how any unanimous motion against Italy could carry. Especially since any non-EZ country can effectively vote against the EZ thereby indefinitely delaying their entry into a potentially failing currency.
    _____

    Bottom line. Italy has the capability to force major EU & EZ reforms because they can threaten to break the Euro as currency. What has been lacking in prior “Euro Crisies” has been the will of a strong national leader. And, it looks like Salvini has a great deal of will. Last question:

    If the EU refuses to reform, does Salvini have the will to break the Euro?

  50. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:
    @John Gruskos

    Tiny Navarre is not the stronghold of Vox . In a recent regional elections Vox got an unexpectedly high amount of votes in Andalucia ( 400.000 ) , in the south .

    you say : ” Maybe because during the Medieval/Early-Modern Era, the Mediterraneans were broken by Islamic conquest,”

    , well ,regarding Spain , in 1492 the last moor kingdom of the peninsula , Granada , was conquered by Spain , who that very same year 1492 discovered America and started its colonization . Spain under Charles I of Spain and V of Germany , and Phillip II dominated Europe , fought against your ” delusional ” ( agree ) protestants , defeated the turks in Lepanto , so ……

    • Replies: @John Gruskos
  51. Z-man says:

    I like Salvini a lot. I was only disappointed when he went to Is-ra-hell to kiss Zionist butt.
    However he’s better off staying in coalition with the ‘Five Stars’ movement because there is a left strain in Italy that Salvini has to coddle. And Conte as the Prime Minister was a touch of genius by Salvini and Di Maio (the young Five Star leader). He’s the polished technocrat front man who still doesn’t take too much BS from EU bureaucrats when he’s called a ‘puppet’.
    Three heads are harder to kill than one. Genius!
    As far as ‘axis’ is concerned it’s the Orban-Salvini-Polish Axis for me but only after the Trump-Putin Axis, DA! (Grin)

  52. Z-man says:
    @Anon

    True, but the Italians were also cute about immigration earlier as they used to put ‘the unwashed’ on trains to go north to France and Germany. Once the French and Germans wised up ‘that’ stopped around 2015 and the Italians were then stuck with their own immigration crisis.

    • Replies: @eah
  53. Agent76 says:

    Sep 19, 2000 Euro-federalists financed by US spy chiefs

    The documents confirm suspicions voiced at the time that America was working aggressively behind the scenes to push Britain into a European state. One memorandum, dated July 26, 1950, gives instructions for a campaign to promote a fully fledged European parliament. It is signed by Gen William J Donovan, head of the American wartime Office of Strategic Services, precursor of the CIA.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/1356047/Euro-federalists-financed-by-US-spy-chiefs.html

    Jul 18, 2016 The European Union: Part of America’s Imperial Project

    The British people’s decision to leave the European Union shocked the political establishment across Europe and around the globe. Now, Professor Michel Chossudovsky exposes the EU as the imperial project that it always was, and the growing movement against EU domination as an anti-imperial movement of world historical importance.

  54. Z-man says:
    @LondonBob

    They may be small in numbers but they still wield a disproportionate amount of power/influence especially with their shit lib and communist allies. Thankfully I’ve seen a lot of Italians ‘woke’ on the ‘power of the Cabal’ on Salvini’s and other social media sites.

    • Replies: @Grace Poole
  55. Z-man says:
    @truthman

    Yes, agreed.
    In America Trump is being hemmed in by his Republi’tard allies in Congress, the Neocons infesting his White House and even his dopey daughter and weird looking Zionist son in law into accepting massive amounts of ‘legal’ immigration. Mass immigration both legal and illegal has GOT TO STOP!

  56. Dante says:
    @Guillaume Durocher

    I saw Di Maio live in Caserta last year prior to the election and on the big issues such as reducing immigration illegal and legal and getting Italy away from Globohomo and back towards traditional family values as well as increasing Italian fertility/ birthrate he was exactly inline with Salvini. So on those issues Lega & Cinque Stelle are aligned. Cheers

    • Replies: @Guillaume Durocher
  57. Anon[389] • Disclaimer says:

    Trump is a lying scumbag (((globalist))) puppet. Salvini is the real deal.

    Italy does not need a Trump.

    America needs a Salvini.

  58. Beckow says:
    @Cowboy

    …Hungary, who the EU is threatening to throw out the parliament because the refuse to accept their “quota”. The same applies to all the Visigard countries who are constantly being bullied by the EU to accept their quotas.

    That was true until last year when Brussels quietly dropped the migrant quota demands on Visegrad, quotas are officially dead. EU has switched to a more insidious approach: they are bullying Hungary to turn over the control of its southern borders to an EU managed ‘Border Protection Force’ – and for all Visegrad to accept a central EU agency that would be in charge of all migration and asylum decisions. In other words the same goals, and the results would be even worse than enforced quotas.

    Two interesting things about the shift in strategy:
    – It is an attempt to split the opposition to migration between the front-line states, like Italy and the EU hinterland, mostly V4, but also Austria, Denmark,…
    – Brussels realizes that the quotas were a PR nightmare, but they will not change the open borders strategy. They are not allowed to change it. Brussels is basically Merkel, Macron and a few alcoholic LGBT non-entities from places like Luxembourg, they have an assignment to keep the migration going, they are lousy at implementation, but the strategy will never change.

    In 2015-16 I considered for a while whether the globalist sponsors would abandon the open borders and mass migration part of their strategy. Well, we now know the answer – they won’t. They mght adjust tactics, play for time, change a few ‘leaders’, but the mass change in the demographics in Europe is a core part of the strategy, they will never give up on it.

    I hope Salvini is for real.

    • Replies: @Cowboy
  59. Stan says:

    The cabal has created the conditions of a civil war in the US, UK and France by pushing for policies to import immigrants from hostile civilizations. Jewish organizations demand more immigrants from Muslim countries, they view Muslims as allies in their war against Western Christian civilization.

  60. @Anon

    In a recent regional elections Vox got an unexpectedly high amount of votes in Andalucia ( 400.000 ) , in the south .

    I’m glad to learn they proved me wrong!

    Phillip II dominated Europe , fought against your ” delusional ” ( agree ) protestants

    Resources wasted. He would have done better to instead follow up on the victory of Lepanto.

    In the end, it was the Protestant British who had the honor of ending Barbary piracy and liberating Greece:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombardment_of_Algiers_(1816)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Navarino

    • Replies: @Anon
  61. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:

    WELFARE STATE ended in MALAISE STATE

    The big problem is that we still have , since the end of WWII the so called WELFARE STATE , which was economically sustenable till the 70`s , and politically useful to compete with the USSR .

    But since the implosion of USSR , there is no need to compete socially with the USSR .

    Since the 70`s the western productive people ( the middle classes ) have been more and more taxed so that presently they live in a real MALAISE STATE , they have to pay too many taxes for too many unproductive people , with infinite entitlements , who still enjoy the WELFARE STATE , politicians , pensioners , health care , education , non productive inmigrants , plus the oligarchs and megacorporationes that don`t pay taxes and put their benefits in fiscal heavens .

    Malaise State , Estado de Malestar , Etat de Malaise , Stato di Disagio .

    Salvini probably knows , with mediterranean realism , that non european inmigrants are the straw that broke the camel`s back .

    Welfare State is the western version of communism . In Russia the IRS tax is a flat tax of 12% , Putin learned the lesson of the failure of communism .

  62. @Dante

    Interesting. Thanks for the comment!

  63. eah says:
    @Z-man

    ‘that’ stopped around 2015

    Actually the flow accelerated starting in 2015 — after Merkel indicated she would open German borders, ie not enforce the Dublin Agreement, which requires people to apply for asylum in the first safe country they enter, it was natural for other European countries to allow the migrants to pass through on the way to Germany — even into 2016/2017 Merkel was refusing to enforce Dublin at the German border — she also repeatedly refused to set an upper limit on the number of migrants allowed in.

    Flüchtlingskrise in Europa ab 2015

    Die Zunahme wurde in Europa als „Krise“ eingestuft, seit sich die Zahl der Asylbewerber 2014 auf rund 627.000 erhöhte und 2015 auf über 1,3 Mio. fast verdoppelte. Sie lag 2016 nochmals bei 1,26 Mio. und ging infolge der Schließung der Balkanroute, dem EU-Türkei-Abkommen vom 18. März 2016 und weiteren Maßnahmen 2017 auf rund 650.000 zurück.

    In 2014, 627k — 2015, 1.3m (double 2014) — 2016, 1.26m — 2017, 650k.

    the Italians were then stuck with their own immigration crisis

    There are currently more Flüchtlinge (refugees/asylum seekers) in just the German state (Bundesland) of Nordrhein-Westfalen (NRW) than there are in all of Italy.

    • Replies: @Z-man
    , @El Dato
  64. Corvinus says:
    @unpc downunder

    “Another explanation is that Italy is a relatively insular manufacturing nation which isn’t into the “invite the world, invade the world” mentality of quasi-imperialist America, Britain and France.”

    You mean imperialist, not quasi-imperialist. And it is a feature, not a bug, of white Europeans to seek gimmedats and free stuff.

  65. Beckow says:

    …Since the 70`s the western productive people ( the middle classes ) have been more and more taxed so that presently they live in a real MALAISE STATE

    You are wrong in your dislike of the ‘Welfare state’. I agree with most of your analysis, but restricting of welfare for free loaders, state employees, academicians, migrants is never going to happen. It has a stench of austerity about it. It is also economically pointless in an era when we need consumption and real productive jobs are scarce. That ship has sailed, no political force will ever really restrict welfare, libertarianism is dead.

    What we need is what Orban or Five Stars are doing: we need the productive families to also get ‘welfare’. The working middle class families are the only major group on the outs, and they pay for everything. It is impossible to change that by trying to limit the welfare for the others. The only solution is to join the distribution system. It is a way to make the system to be more rational – the numbers will have to balance – and also to win elections. Getting something is a better motivator than constantly trying to keep the others from getting it.

    Salvini and Five Stars are a natural coalition. To win we should copy that approach. Trump was also hinting that was his philosophy – he didn’t run against ‘welfare’. Trump has turned out to be simply weak and he has no real core, but he won because he promised to give things to people – and not to take them away.

  66. @Z-man

    care to share some of those social media sites? are any of them in English?

    • Replies: @Z-man
  67. Z-man says:
    @eah

    I feel sorry for the Germans.

  68. El Dato says:
    @eah

    It’s hard to distinguish f(t) and df(t)/dt

    df(t)/dt = 0? Problem solved.

    But not really.

    According to that Wikipedia page which has simultaneously very precise (down to single digits) and very inaccurate (missing date for 2018) numbers, we are looking at

    ~2’000’000 illegals in the 6 years since 2013 (thus ~340’000 per year)

    and

    ~5’000’000 asylum seekers in the same 6 years (no data for 2018 though), thus ~ 840’000 per year.

    That’s approximately 3 countries of Asselborn per year. Not bad.

  69. El Dato says:
    @The Alarmist

    Ah, Comte de Money, I presume?

  70. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:
    @John Gruskos

    The russian and the french helped Greece too . Those english knowitall think they are still the center of the world , pathological liars . They always put down other countries , say nothing about their defeats , and maximize their victories .

    some of the english defeats , many spanish victories followed after Lepanto

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Armada

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cartagena_de_Indias

    • Agree: utu
  71. Alfa158 says:
    @Guillaume Durocher

    I was born there and still speak Italian. I am retired and we have a pretty good nest egg plus our house in a coastal Whitopia is worth a bunch. The negative sides are we’d be moving away from family, and I haven’t looked into whether there are tax issues with moving a large wad out of the US and, perhaps also being double taxed on the investment income. Mighty tempting though. If the new regime can keep the gates clamped down and maybe even eject some of the invaders it will look better all the time. Maybe we can even find a place in the German speaking Tyrolean part so my wife can hang out with people who look more like her. 🙂

    • Agree: Guillaume Durocher
    • Replies: @Z-man
  72. Cowboy says:
    @Beckow

    “the mass change in the demographics in Europe is a core part of the strategy, they will never give up on it.”

    That famous Barbara Specter interview really reveals their plan here. It is amazing how one slip from one person can wipe out decades of lies and deception in one swoop.

    She talks about how white Europeans will have to adjust to their new multiculti reality. She claims that it will be difficult but it is their only chance to survive.

    She doesn’t mention what happens to those who do not “adjust”, but that is why every generation or two the jews very publicly genocide some civilization or another. This is probably the main hidden purposes of 9/11, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Dresden and all the other mass ritual sacrifices of goyim over the centuries.

    • Replies: @Z-man
  73. Cowboy says:
    @Guillaume Durocher

    “If you can speak basic Italian and find a job, why the heck not? It’s a fantastic country.”

    Most Americans are blissfully unaware of FATCA, GILTY, FBAR, OVDI, the Transition Tax, FEIE, and many more acronyms that give expats nightmares.

    But Americans need to be aware of this stuff because many falsely believe that they can simply leave the US if they get fed up enough. Well if you owe 50k in income taxes, and soon likely if you are behind on your student debt payments, the Department of State can invalidate/revoke your passport.

    Even if you manage to get out the country the IRS imposes US taxes on US citizens everywhere they live on the planet. The IRS is such a bully in enforcing this ridiculous and solely American tax policy than most foreign banks will not even allow a US person to open a bank account.

    But it gets worse, FATCA forces all non-US business entities to report all their accounts to the IRS if a US person has authority over this account. This has effectively black listed Americans from most management positions in non-US companies across the entire planet.

    The long and short of this is that US persons are stuck on the slave plantation. If they do not have dual citizenship in another country, escaping the US has been made practically impossible.

    • Replies: @Miro23
  74. Ahoy says:

    @ Stan

    “Jewish organisations demand more immigrands from Moslem countries”. Very true. The old Coudenhove-Kalergi (Austrian jewish family) plan. In his book PAN-EUROPA , 1923, describes the displacement of the whites in Europe by Afro-Asians.

    In today’s conditions there is a small new development. The various patriotic european groups have found their anti-Soros leader. Steve Bannon.

    The Yellow Vests are at it for the 18th week. Iconic restaurant in Champs-Elysees and high-end shopping places have been burnt and looted. We’ll see.

  75. Miro23 says:
    @Dieter Kief

    With Switzerland being one of the interesting exceptions (with the direct democracy making a big difference in this case – it just does not let the 20 per cent so easily from the hook).

    So – no Yellow Vests there, because nobody needs them. Carpenters, who make a living quite nicely. Steve Sailer’s family affordance aspect – if quantified, would see the Swiss carpenter or the Swiss farmer or the train conductor or bus-driver way ahead – not only from their French and German contemporaries but also from the US American ones.

    This is an important point. There are all kinds of benefits to direct democracy.

    Politics is under the control of Communes and Cantons and citizens are obliged to participate. These are the carpenters, farmers, train conductors and bus drivers who make sure that Switzerland looks after the Swiss (i.e. themselves) and doesn’t open its frontiers to mass immigration, outsource its industries to China or participate in Middle East wars.

  76. mr meener says:
    @eah

    if the Italians left it up to the US military they would lose and have their country bombed into rubble

  77. Z-man says:
    @Grace Poole

    F-book Italiana. Translate button. (Grin)

  78. Z-man says:
    @Alfa158

    Hey you can afford to do 6 months there and 6 months here. (Grin)

  79. Z-man says:
    @Cowboy

    Ah yes Barbara Specter, I wonder if she’s worm food now? Is she related to Phil Specter? (Grin)
    Good post btw.

  80. Anon[196] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    It happens whenever a non-international-elite approved government sits in office.
    Berlusconi was done away that way, and Salvini-Di Maio have been kept under hard pressure that same way since they were elected.

    When you have a “populist” government, the interest rates on state debt the government has to pay rise a lot (are made to rise a lot).

  81. Well this is good news for Italians. Hopefully they realize they need to start having more children as well.

    The US could learn a few things from them.

    • Replies: @Z-man
  82. Sean says:
    @Guillaume Durocher

    An associate of Rome underworld boss Massimo Carminati was recorded by police boasting that he made more money from government contracts for refugees centres than heroin.

    A couple of decades ago Carminati was a co-defendant of the former Prime Minister of Italy Giulio Andreotti in Andreotti’s trial for the murder of a journalist. Andreotti was actually convicted (revered on appeal). Italy is an odd country, but one thing is stable there: tax evasion.

    Lega has promised to a Universal Basic Income yet alsocut taxes to a low flat rate and introduced an effective amnesty people who are being pursued for non payment.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/annalisagirardi/2018/11/20/the-populist-government-that-can-forgive-you-for-evading-taxes/#19fffdb059dc

    What their support would be like with only anti immigration policies to differentiate them is something of an enigma.

  83. We have a much more scalable, uncontrollable problem in the USA. We have between 13 — 30 million illegal immigrants and 1.5 million new legal immigrants brought in yearly to keep wages down, while 95 million American citizens between ages 16 and 65 are out of the labor force. And the average, “employed” person in the USA just works part time.

    So many American citizens are unemployed or underemployed—a mountain of them—and yet, the elected representatives purchased by our economic elites, along with corporations, regard immigrants as more “useful” than citizens since so many of them can afford to work for beans due to the welfare they get for baby-making—for their US-born kids.

    The US government already substantially helps millions of noncitizens and citizens “make babies.” As long as single-breadwinner households with American-born kids remain below the earned-income limits for welfare programs by working part time or in temp jobs, during months when their earned income meets the programs’ requirements, every major monthly expense—from rent to food—is covered by US taxpayers, in addition to their refundable child tax credit up to $6,431 and monthly cash assistance.

    America has no shortage of babies, no shortage of future workers to compete with robots for jobs. This extensive pay from government for womb-productive sex has produced the two biggest generations in American history—the Millennials and the Z Generation.

    But the Millennials, like many others who are beyond womb-production age, are stunningly unemployed or underemployed. Our government keeps undermining citizens, particularly those of us who cannot get our major monthly bills covered by government through sex, reproduction and part-time work, by importing millions of womb-productive, welfare-eligible immigrants to compete with us for jobs, as automation continues to eliminate full-time Jobs.

    We in the USA already have tons—millions upon millions—of native-born, American citizens enjoying handsome amounts of babymaking incentives from .gov. We have a multitude of single moms, partaking of the part-time-work-plus-welfare-and-child-tax-credits lifestyle, in addition to all of the immigrants doing the same in male-breadwinner households.

    And we also have lots of married moms, with plenty of spousal income, and senior citizens with retirement checks, driving down wages just as much as the welfare-eligible single moms and legal / illegal immigrants by willingly accepting part-time, low-wage jobs, just to add a little more vacation income to the household.

    I, for one, will not vote for an agenda that aims to help Americans make more babies by working part-time for low wages that are bumped up with even more monthly welfare and child tax credits.

    That rigged system is already destroying the lives of millions of American citizens who must rely on the wages alone from one breadwinner to cover all household bills. That includes not only millions of single, childless women and men in lower-paying jobs, but also millions of non-welfare-eligible single moms with kids over 18 and many noncustodial parents, albeit many of them get the tax credits.

    Above-firing, dramatically absentee, “needs-the-job” parents are the majority of managers. Almost to a man / woman, they indulge in blatant cronyism, discrimation or whatever you want to call the process of hiring and retaining their fellow absentee parents, regardless of extreme absenteeism and non-quota-meeting.

    I’ll vote Republican again if the party wants to eliminate some of the wage-undercutting, welfare-for-womb-productivity programs that prop up independent households for part-time-working single moms in discriminatory “voted-best-for-moms” jobs, opting to help more parents be stay-at-home moms instead.

    Every parent who does the work of raising his / her own child, rather than keeping two, scarce, decent-paying jobs under one roof, helps to increase the size of the dwindling middle class when those are two of the few, full-time, good-paying jobs in the USA. Every one of the scarce, good -paying, full-time jobs that is freed up by a stay-at-home mom allows another individual citizen, living on eaarned-only income with no spousal income and no welfare eligibilty or wage-boosting tax credits, to have the dignity of an independent apartment and some qualify of life. It also opens up an avenue for new family formation for younger, underemployed Americans.

    I woulD support that type of baby-making incentive if other welfare-for-womb-productivity is reduced. Pay for it by reducing the smorgasbord of current pay-per-birth freebies.

    People who ignore the issue of automation-based underemployment and the massive underclass that it is creating, including the halving of the college-educated middle class via assortative mating and absenteeism-friendly full-time jobs for working moms, are not solving any of the current, major problems. Economic theory does count womb productivity as a component of general productivity on the assumption that in 20 or (in college-focused, Western countries) 30 more years the children that government incentives for womb productivity spawns will work, ramping up the nation’s productivity, which theoretically produces wider prosperity.

    Twenty or thirty years is too long for Americans who are facing the worst economic consequences of the rigged system to wait.

    Republicans who are concerned foremost with changing demographics, as opposed to economics, are doing damage to the survival of our culture and the two-party Republic by calling for more womb-productivity-based welfare.

    That very thing—the welfare-rigged labor market—is helping to reduce wages to un-livable levels, resulting in mass waves of middle-aged, non-womb-productive, mostly white, American citizens expiring at unprecedented rates. Scholars have attributed this to a dead-end, hopeless, part-time, scam-job, churn-job economy that is stressful-to-the-max for those whose major bills are not covered by a spouse, a child-support check, retirement checks or monthly welfare and refundable child tax credits up to $6,431. The part-time / churn jobs are all they have to keep a roof over their heads.

    These middle-aged whites are far, far, far more likely to vote than the younger generations that the baby-incentivizing programs of hardcore progressives and populist Republicans alike address. Realityville: Regardless of how much more government-paid babymaking goes on due to increased government incentives, these welfare-ineligible likely voters still have many years of trying to keep a roof over their heads, competing with hordes of womb-productive / welfare-eligible citizens and noncitizens, with unearned income from government bouying their low wages, making it easy for them to undercut non-eligible citizens by working for less. And they will still face the many “non-discriminatory” majority-minority workplaces and the many “diverse” voted-best-for-moms jobs, rega4dless of whether or not there is an increase in white 20 – 30-year-old, white job seekers decades from now due to more womb-productivity incentives from .gov.

    If Republicans start calling for even more pay-per-birth welfare to spawn even bigger generations than the biggest generations in history—Gen Z and the Millenials—many of the cross-over voters will see it as the worst of both worlds, especially with Republicans cutting the Medicare and SS that citizens pay into at either 7.54 or 15.3% of their income.

    They are cutting the programs into which voters contribute a big chunk of meager income, while suggesting increases to all of those pay-per-birth programs that are 100% free to recipients, including the whopping refundable child tax credits up to $6,431 for part-time-working parents who do not pay income taxes.

    Dual-earner parents—keeping two jobs that could support two households under one roof, while vacationing copiously in many cases due to crony-parent job networks and machines that do more of their work—do pay income taxes, and they got a couple of thousand back from the Republican Congress to grease the wheels for tax cuts for the rich, just like the non-refundable child tax credit uphike given to the same group by Obama.

    I’d say that—from the top to the bottom of the income scale—babymaking is already well supported by the US government. But the average, welfare-ineligible, single citizen, trying to cover all household bills on earned-only income from a $10 to $12-per-hour churn job, got a Costco-mememership-sized tax cut. It is hard to keep voting for a kick in the head, and it is hard to discern which party kicks non-rich, individual citizens in the head more.

    There has to be another way to fight mass-scale immigration in an era when there are fewer full-time jobs available for citizens.

    More humans competing for jobs is not the answer.

    How about a tax credit for households, where one parent bypasses a job, opting to do the work of raising her own children and a tax credit for non-welfare-eligible individual earners, working low-wage jobs that do not cover the cost of a modest, one-room apartment.

    If you get some of the white Millennials out of their parents’ basements, you might be surprised at how much family formation goes on. I realize that it does not matter if the non-womb-productive citizens have the dignity of an independent household, but that way, you might keep some older, likely white voters on the rolls—voters who are not full-out in favor of a one-party state.

    Many middle-aged minorites are in that situation, too, particularly the non-womb-productive men, but their voting patterns are pretty monolithic, and the single moms of all races who consume a wildly disproportionate share of the welfare handed out by both parties are not even registered to vote in most cases.

    If the Republican Party is going to pursue pay-per-birth welfare policies identical to the Democrats’ policies, then they should try to register all of the many un-registered, womb-productive, white welfare consumers (and the welfare consumers in other groups), likewise persuading them to do their civic duty by showing up at the polls.

    I have done that civic chore faithfully all of my life, but I am not going to vote against my own economic well-being again, just to make sure there are even more welfare-armed mommas, chasing part-time, low-wage jobs, willing to work for beans due to their unearned income streams.

    I also doubt it will work to increase the birthrate among groups who were raised with strong social pressure to achieve a middle-class standard of living, including many, many whites. Since Democrats and Republicans continue to do the bidding of the “Cheap Labor Lobby” by enabling unrestrained immigration—with or without more pay-per-birth welfare—there will be an even bigger generation to compete with robots and the underemployed massive Millennial and Z generations for jobs. It is likely to create massive social unrest, either way.

    Other than his welfare plan, Salvini does seem to be doing a great job in keeping a much smaller problem in check. His anti-mass-immigration swagger is more high-energy than Trump’s, but on the economic-reality end, Italy does not appear to have more household-supporting jobs for all of the baby makers that Salvini intends to create with increased welfare libertinism any more than the underemployed USA does—even less, probably.

    But whereas Salvini’s Italy might clear the way for Italian citizens to get the jobs in case of any resurgence in manufacturing jobs, Republicans are continuing to import even more legal immigrants to displace Americans than before Trump was elected, while Democrats are planning a CCC II program with a green-energy theme to employ primarily immigrants and other oppressed “minorities” who are not the minority in the younger generations.

    You can bet your bottom dollar than the millions of white, middle-aged, non-womb-productive, non-welfare-eligible, educated, experienced, underemployed or out-of-the-laborforce likely voters would not get those “diversity-focused” jobs.

    Those CCC II green-energy jobs would be just as “diverse” as the many 80%-Black government agencies, albeit there would be more “Spanish-speakers-wanted” positions. There would be even more government job openings, seeking particular skin-pigmentation groups, just like in the non-diverse, diversity-bible-thumping corporate world.

    It is a lot more complicated in the USA, with its motely hordes of multi-ethnic, multi-racial applicants, all with legal protections that vault them ahead of white applicants and above charges of racism when hiring / retaining mostly within their own ethnic or racial groups.

    Add in all of the “family-friendly” womb-productivity-based absenteeism privileges for officially & unofficially part-time-working moms, and you have a labor landscape that is already 100% accommodating to the making of babies above all, especially for the retained em0loyees who are far, far above hard work and all-day, everyday work attendance requirements.

    Just from the standpoint of internal decline, the Green New Deal’s CCC II project would fail to produce the above-9% GDP growth that FDR’s very, very different set of government-paid workers generated.

    In the Thirties, Americans at the top and the bottom of the income ladder had vastly different work-ethic expectations that did not include above-firing jobs for wantonly absentee, fake-feminist, crony parents.

    America also had traditional social mores that were not yet undermined by ever-increasing forms of welfare-for-womb-productivity. Those ubiquitous, stay-at-home moms of the escalating-prosperity decades—the Forties, Fifties and Sixties—probably kept much more orderly households that made it easier for a single breadwinner to work hard, long, household-supporting hours.

    Since two household-supporting jobs weren’t kept under one roof through assortative mating, the avalanche of good-paying jobs that were created in the post-WWII period were spread out over more households to create a hugemiddle class, with more independent household formation.

    Salvini’s Italy might not have strayed as far from its roots as America has. America’s priorities are: 1) proving that all women are equal to men; 2) making sure we have even more womb-productivity-based welfare, tax and workplace-absenteeism privileges; 3) proving that we are not racist; 4) making sure we have even more workplaces with an overwhelming majority of minority workers who are allowed to exhibit blatant racial favoritism, while crying racism.

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
    , @obwandiyag
  84. Miro23 says:
    @Cowboy

    Even if you manage to get out the country the IRS imposes US taxes on US citizens everywhere they live on the planet. The IRS is such a bully in enforcing this ridiculous and solely American tax policy than most foreign banks will not even allow a US person to open a bank account.

    But it gets worse, FATCA forces all non-US business entities to report all their accounts to the IRS if a US person has authority over this account. This has effectively black listed Americans from most management positions in non-US companies across the entire planet.

    An interesting commentary. More items on the the list of things that need fixing in the US.

  85. Z-man says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    Unfortunately the birth rate in Italy is one of the lowest in Europe.

  86. Matra says:
    @Anon

    (1) is preoccupied with details, rules, lists, order, organization, or schedules to the extent that the major point of the activity is lost

    (2) shows perfectionism that interferes with task completion (e.g., is unable to complete a project because his or her own overly strict standards are not met)

    (8) shows rigidity and stubbornness

    Example: the Berlin Brandenburg airport clusterf*ck.

  87. Look. Most intelligent people, including Karl Marx believe that immigration is not an unalloyed good. But the alloys are: A. it lowers wages, and B. it prevents unionization. Not what you say.

    Alright, so we agree. Cut back immigration.

    If that’s your goal, then any and all racist xenophobic talk just undermines your goal. It doesn’t even matter if it’s true or not. Either way, racist xenophobic talk just makes you look like troglodyte fools who don’t have any real rational, grownup, concrete reasons for your position.

    Take my advice. Keep talking wages and employment. That appeals to everybody. Stifle your inbred natural prejudices. So that, ironically, their goal may be fulfilled.

  88. @Endgame Napoleon

    I knew a single woman (no kids) once who worked at a reasonably intelligent job as a fact-checker at Rodale, who was exasperated with her married women with kids co-worker’s lack of ambition and calm acceptance of criminally low pay, who asserted, “I think they should make a law that all housewives and teenagers be forced to get working papers proving themselves the sole support of their families before they are allowed to work.” You see, her co-worker’s husbands made the big money. They just kept their little fact-checker jobs for pin money for new wallpaper for the bathroom and whatnot. While my friend was supporting herself on that pin money.

    I like how it was a woman who said that. If I said it I would be keelhauled.

  89. Have the Catholics figured out how to take on the Jews while the protestants dicker/dither?

    • Replies: @Whitewolf
    , @Grace Poole
  90. @Endgame Napoleon

    I would go the other way. Instead of encouraging birth, I would encourage sterilization. A comfortable free lifetime income for not breeding. Sacrilege, I know.

  91. anon1 says:
    @unpc downunder

    “…liberal WASP Kiwis from supporting mass immigration”.

    Not true at all. If there was a public referendum on changing or ending immigration it would pass overwhelmingly.

  92. Whitewolf says:
    @neutral

    Australia and NZ are still colonies of Britain with the Queen of England as their head of state. Australia at the moment is being colonized by the third world. It’s not the same country I grew up in or even the same one my children grew up in.

  93. Whitewolf says:
    @Reuben Kaspate

    The Vatican and top Jews more than likely work as a tag team much like the democrat/Republican circus in the US.

    • Replies: @Reuben Kaspate
  94. I don’t think Italy wasn’t as successful as Germany. Remember of a Italian progress in the industries, infrastructure, military, science, arts, social services etc. during 1960-2000. Haven’t You heard of: Oliveti, Fiat, Breda, Ignis..? let’s stop, the list is endless! Maybe only Italy didn’t get as much help from the Marchal’s plan, as Germany did?

    But running into the Eurozone left Italy out of ruling countries. Some force decided Germany will reign in the name of all, and Germany does it with a little more love for own self, than for the others.

    • Replies: @Grace Poole
  95. As I can see, it is admitted that: right, far-right and extreme-right mean nationalist, Nazis, or fascist, while left means: for the human rights, identities, and for the global oligarchy.

    I was tought in a school that: right was on the side of the capitalists, and leftist on the side of the people. What is now correct?

    • Replies: @Amber Dekstris
  96. @Whitewolf

    Alas! I am afraid you maybe right… what’s America to do?

    • Replies: @Z-man
  97. @дулебг

    It’s probably more helpful to think in terms of collectivist and individualist rather than leftist and rightist.

  98. Z-man says:
    @Reuben Kaspate

    The Vatican and top Jews more than likely work as a tag team much like the democrat/Republican circus in the US.

    Alas! I am afraid you maybe right… what’s America to do?

    Heaven help us!

  99. How to win on immigration?

    Heck, y’all, me an’ mah buddies in the D.C. Uniparty are winning on immigration!

    Ah am gittin’ mah North American Union after all – mah buddy Barack kept up the flow of our amigos from south of the border – so its like there ain’t no border nohow!!

    That’s why family values don’t stop there – ain’t nothing stops at that border. Ah made shore of that.

    A whole bunch of us have been workin’ on this a loooooonng time, lemme tell yew. Bi-partisan. Mitch, Chuck, Paul (he shouldn’t have quit, we’d of made shure he got his share, he dint’ need to become no lobbyist to make a bundle) and Nancy.

    How ’bout that Nancy – is she cracker-jack or what?!?!! Nobody messes with that girl.

    Yessir, pretty soon the USA will look pretty much like Gautamaula, Nicaragua, Mexico. What ah said about North America bein’ one big neighborhood, ah meant it!!

    Just like it was fer me an’ Jeb and mah siblings, when our Mexican nanny was raising us. Makes the place feel like home.

    Mah buddy Tom Donohue at the US Chamber of Commerce and all his donors wanted that, so ah made shure it happened. Mah buddies the Clintons and the Obamas and the Romneys are all on board. It is a win-win-win all around, at least for us what’s got the right connections.

    Meantime, y’all stay on the outside of mah gated community, unnerstand?

  100. @Reuben Kaspate

    Have the Catholics figured out how to take on the Jews while the protestants dicker/dither?

    No.

    Catholics think the only problem in the universe is the sex scandals among priests.

    As E Michael Jones explains repeatedly and, in my opinion, convincingly, that problem has a Jewish tactic at its foundation.
    Sex scandals in Catholicism — and the pro life campaigns — keep Catholics distracted from the source and heart of the problem; namely, the Revolutionary Jewish Spirit.

    http://www.culturewars.com/Reviews/RevolutionaryReviews.html

  101. @дулебг

    In fact, the British collected more of the Marshall Plan money than Italy and Germany combined:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan

    W. Germany $1448 million
    Italy & Trieste. $1204 million
    UK. . . . $3297 million

  102. @Anon

    That Hillary clip is honestly so sickening. That evil woman actually took pride in destroying that great nation, and she actually laughed at the death of a man who was quite literally sodomized, till death. It goes to show that both the left and the right are the samd. Neolibs neocons yawn
    Both the same

  103. Does Italy have family “unification” policies? Not every place is as lunatic as the US.

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