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The lesson to be drawn from the current Israeli political stalemate is that Israel is imploding, breaking into the elements it has never managed to integrate into one. The schism is no longer the more quotidian dichotomy of Ashkenazi vs. Arab Jews (aka Sephardim); this divide is ideological, religious, spiritual, political, ethnic and cultural. Nor does it break down to Left and Right, Jewish Israelis are politically with the right even when they pretend to be ‘Left.’ Although some of the most astute critical voices of Israeli politics and Jewish fundamentalism are Israelis (such as Gideon Levi, Shlomo Sand, Israel Shamir and others), there is no political Israeli Left. Israeli politics break down into a lot of extreme right voters and many ordinary hawks. The Arab Joint List Party is practically the only Left party in the Israeli Knesset. This should not be surprising any more. Jewish Left, as I have been arguing for many years, is an oxymoron; Jewishness is a form of tribal identification and Left is universal. The ‘tribal’ and the ‘universal’ are like oil and water, they do not mix very well.

What is peculiar about the Israeli political divide is that the Israelis are more united than ever in their nationalist beliefs and in the primacy of their Jewish symptoms. Why is it, if the Israelis are so unified, that no one can form a government in their so-called ‘Jewish State’?

Avigdor Lieberman, formerly an enthusiastic Netanyahu ally and himself a radical Jewish nationalist, delved into the Israeli political deadlock yesterday. He maintained that the elections had already been decided: “The ultra-Orthodox and Messianic bloc reaches 62-61 seats.” The leader of the rabid nationalist Yisrael Beiteinu said, “If there is no voting rate of at least 70% in Gush Dan and Sharon, the Halacha government will be established.”

Basically, Lieberman said that unless secular Israelis in Tel Aviv go to the polls, they should expect to live in a Halacha State under an ultra right wing Netanyahu government. Lieberman appears to hold the key to Israel’s political stability. Although he and Netanyahu are ideological twins regarding Israeli security and nationalist matters, the two are bitter rivals who fight aggressively against each other. Netanyahu has known for a few years that, absent a strong ultra right wing government, he can expect to spend some time behind bars, an adventure that has become common for Israel’s prime political figures. Netanyahu’s natural partners are the ultra right parties and the orthodox parties. Ideologically, Lieberman should also feel comfortable within such a political coalition but Lieberman has made a crucial political decision, essential for his political survival. A while back he grasped that his political home base, Jewish immigrants from the former Soviet Union, many of them barely Jewish and subjected to constant rabbinical terror, regard the Jewish Orthodox parties as their ultimate foes. Many of these Russian and Ukrainian Jews hold ultra right wing political positions but also see the Rabbis as an imminent threat to their survival.

Theoretically, Lieberman could broker a huge unity coalition with Netanyahu at the top, joined by Blue and White (Kachol Lavan) and its three right wing field marshals, Lieberman’s own party and probably the Labour party. Such a coalition would hold around 80 Knesset seats, more than enough to sustain a strong government but this coalition would refuse to guarantee Netanyahu’s immunity.

Netanyahu gambles instead on a weak ultra right wing religious government, a government that may not hold for very long but would buy more time for its PM to stay out of jail.

This conflict at the heart of Israeli politics is a window into the Jewish state and its fears. Israel is rapidly becoming an Orthodox Jewish state. Israel’s Orthodox Jews are the fastest growing group in the country. They are also the country’s poorest population, 45 percent live below the poverty line in segregated communities. Ordinarily, one would expect the poor to support the left, but Israeli Torah Jews are rabid nationalists and openly lend their support to Benjamin Netanyahu and his party.

Prof. Dan Ben-David of Tel Aviv University warned recently that Israel could cease to exist in a couple of generations. He pointed to the astonishingly high birth rate among ultra Orthodox Jews and predicted that, based on current trends, they will comprise 49% of Israel’s population by 2065. The ultra Orthodox parties are destined to dominate the Knesset within a generation or less. Ben David predicts that their dependence on Israel’s welfare system will lead to a rapid decline is Israel’s economy. This is economically damaging enough and is made worse by the refusal of most rabbinical schools to incorporate standard Western subjects such as mathematics, science and English into their core curriculum. Consequently, Israel is educating a growing percentage of its population in a fashion that fails to equip them to contribute to the needs of a hi-tech society that is immersed in a conflict for survival.

The picture that comes across is peculiar. As Israel becomes increasingly Jewish and fundamentalist in its nationalist and religious ethos, it has also become more divided on everything else. The Russian immigrants find it impossible to live alongside the ultra Orthodox and vice versa. The secular enclave in Tel Aviv is committed to seeing their metropolis as an extension of NY. The Israeli Left has morphed into an LGBT hasbara unit. It has practically removed itself from the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. Jewish settlers adhere to the concept of a ‘Two Jewish States Solution.’ They want to see the West Bank become a Jewish land. Orthodox Jews are barely concerned with any of these political issues. They well know that the future of the Jewish state belongs to them. All they need to do is sustain a productive secular Jewish minority to serve as their milk cow. On top of all of that we face Bibi’s survival wars that threaten to escalate any minute into a world conflict.

In light of all of this, the Palestinians are in relatively good shape.. They simply need to survive. Israel seems to be Israel’s fiercest enemy.

(Republished from Gilad Atzmon by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Israel can depend on handouts from America because those handouts in turn wind up as campaign contributions so that Congress can give Israel more handouts.

  2. Altai says:

    This is why I’m more optimistic the more Trump embraces Israel. He seems to have clearly decided not to get caught in Syria and so has to keep them off his back in some other way, moving the embassy and presumably giving Netanyahu the greenlight for annexation of more of the West Bank is a good thing.

    It means Israel incorporates more and more Palestinians that it can’t disengage from by keeping within it’s existing borders and it means damaging the bi-partisan consensus with Trump’s polarising association.

    Everything Netanyahu does is just pulling back the sinews for the final reckoning. Instead of staying within reasonable borders and seeking a reconciliation with neighbours, Israel just gets more demanding, more unreasonable, breaks more promises and makes itself impossible to negotiate with and runs headlong into more and more Palestinian citizens.

    What’s unfortunate is that Europe and the US will be forced to put up with the millions of vagrant Sabras when it all goes kaput. Instead of becoming less anti-social, the Sabra became a magnificent compilation of every annoying and anti-social habit of the nations. Israelis make Sicilians look like Swedes.

    • Agree: utu, Alfred
  3. Rational says:

    ISRAEL IS FINISHED BECAUSE MOSES NEVER STARTED…..

    Thanks for the article, Sir. This is good news that Israel is going to be finished.

    The main reason Israel will finish is because the Moses hoax has been exposed. The fake mass murdering raping criminal prophet Moses never existed. So he never even started.

    See: mosesneverexisted.zohosites.com

    See the book: “Did Moses Exist?”

    Moses is gone. Israel is gone.

  4. Renoman says:

    Just think of how much better off the whole World would be.

    • Replies: @Gilad Atzmon
    , @Ghali
  5. What? Is Yahweh going to abandoned his Chosen People. They only have to keep 623 Commandments, and Yahweh will take care of them. Their enemies will be Yahweh’s enemies.

    The whole world can become their enemies, but Yahweh will be on their side. Who can win against Yahweh?

    • Replies: @Tom Welsh
  6. It’s a political problem, not a national one. Politically, there is much bickering. Nationally, Jews are united in Israel.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  7. They aren’t going anywhere.

    In fact they are getting ready to build the temple and start chopping the heads off chickens because they seem to think that will please God.

    I have my doubts.

  8. @Robert Dolan

    Israeli power is the consequence of Jewish-American Power.

    It’s like the princeling brat can romp around and make all kinds of trouble because his father is the king.

    The King of Jewish Power is the hold over America.

    • Replies: @Technomad
    , @JoannF
    , @animalogic
  9. @Altai

    I agree Altai…. at the end of the day this entire mess will fall on Europe and The USA …but if I read the map correctly the tolerance and empathy to the primacy of Jewish suffering is running out..the situation is getting complicated …

  10. @Renoman

    I don’t want to ruin the party but as far as I can tell Israel is not the problem it is just a symptom of the problem … peculiarly, Israel was born to fix the problem …

  11. @Robert Dolan

    My view, exactly. ( AGREE button used already)

  12. @Gilad Atzmon

    I’ll take your word for it, Gilad. Reading about Israeli politics makes my eyes glaze over, so your take is as good as any.

  13. Yes.

    Jews will be able to claim sanctuary in Muslim Europe, that Jews have turned into a third world shit-hole dominated by vibrant muslims and brown folk who hate Israel. Brilliant!

    This quote probably summarises the feelings now of the American and European national remnants towards Israel and it’s diaspora.

    This is Theodore Beale in response to David Spengler – Kvetching and reeing about China, and talking about this grand ‘we’.

    “We, David? There is no we. Your short-sighted, self-centered tribe destroyed America and demoralized Western civilization because it harbors pathological hatred for Greece, Rome, and Christianity. But now you’re finally beginning to figure out that the Chinese are going to be considerably less tolerant of your subversive shenanigans than the West ever was and you’re utterly terrified as a result.

    But who is going to protect you when you have chopped down all the trees that might have sheltered you? China is demonstrating the salient difference between power and influence, between external competition and internal subversion.”

    There is no ‘we’.

    So good luck, Israelis, attempting to descend en masse into Muslim Europe, or into the nations competing over the former territory of the United States of America.

    Hispanics don’t even think the Holocaust existed, and if they do, they don’t care.

    Bolsanaro is an avid Zionist. Maybe the entire population of Israel can go and live in Rio. Spain also needs more unemployment. Sal Paulo?

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Robert H. Burt
  14. It won’t be Ireland.

    Because the Jew is in the process of destroying Ireland. That’s according to this website. I read that the Irish, who have suffered vastly more then the Jews in every dimensions of human existence, are having enforced upon them the idea that they don’t exist. By Jews. That the Irish nation is a figment of their imagination. That the Irish, the first colonised race. Some of the first slaves. Who had to fight for their freedom instead of being gifted it by a Rothschild, are racist and must be eradicated to atone for their sins.

    Ireland, and the Irish who have endured more then Jews, being destroyed by the people they took in as the gentle Irish.

    In the end, sowers reap.

    And no one, not anyone, has sowed more weeds then the Jew. It’s almost nauseating to watch people who have provided safe harbour being destroyed. I read about these women in Ireland having abortions and committing suicide and having sex changes and it’s just an interesting sensation having spent considerable time with the Irish.

    So the Israeli’s won’t be able to go to Ireland, because Irelands Jew is turning Ireland too, African-muslim.

    “No one loves Ireland more then I do” said the Jew.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @PaulSans
  15. Anyway apologies. ‘Not a monolith’ and all that. Have known some wonderful Israelis. And American Jews.

    I just don’t understand how someone can say “No one loves Ireland more then I do” and then proceed to destroy the people you say you love.

    The Irish are historical victims. They should be totally free of any semblance of national guilt. Yet there it is, being inculcated by Jews in control of nodes of includence.

    And it just makes you really really sad and upset and puzzled.

  16. utu says:
    @Flint Clint

    “We, David? There is no we. Your short-sighted, self-centered tribe destroyed America and demoralized Western civilization because it harbors pathological hatred for Greece, Rome, and Christianity. But now you’re finally beginning to figure out that the Chinese are going to be considerably less tolerant of your subversive shenanigans than the West ever was and you’re utterly terrified as a result.

    But who is going to protect you when you have chopped down all the trees that might have sheltered you? China is demonstrating the salient difference between power and influence, between external competition and internal subversion.”

    Excellent. Do you have a link?

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
    , @Andrew F
  17. A123 says:

    This conflict at the heart of Israeli politics is a window into the Jewish state and its fears. Israel is rapidly becoming an Orthodox Jewish state. Israel’s Orthodox Jews are the fastest growing group in the country.

    The threat of Muslim occupiers outnumbering Jews in their own homeland of Jewish Palestine opened up a Pandora’s Box. The threat of the so-called “one state” solution focused everyone’s minds on the risk of “Demographics = Destiny” and “Birth Rate = Victory”. Steps that ensure that Jewish lands will remain Jewish will remove the motivation many of Orthodox have for massive “self-defense” families. Birth rates will not become identical, but the current extreme discrepancy will dissipate.

    The soon to arrive solution is wholly inspired and lead by the world’s reaction to Vladimir Putin. The Putin inspired playbook has reached both Netanyahu and Gantz. As the world accepts the inevitable fact of Russian Crimea it will also accept the inevitable fact of Israeli Judea & Samaria. Once the door is permanently, eternally, and irrevocably slammed on the potential of a Muslim Occupier pseudo-nation displacing Jews, the opportunity for a realistic peace plan will arrive.

    Thank You, Vladimir Putin!

    PEACE 😇

  18. Saggy says: • Website
    @Gilad Atzmon

    I don’t want to ruin the party but as far as I can tell Israel is not the problem it is just a symptom of the problem … peculiarly, Israel was born to fix the problem …

    What’s the word I’m looking for …. oh yeah, bullshit.

    Not that I have any idea what you’re talking about, why not clarify?

    And my comment on the article …. it seems knowledgeable to me because I know nothing about the subject and it seems like you should and do know something about it …. but when you refer to the Israeli ‘left’ it seems completely phony …. Israeli left is an oxymoron, and the whole concept of ‘left’ in any context has become meaningless, just some sort of appeal to the supposed moral superiority of the ‘left’ whereas in reality the ‘left’ has always been dominated by Jews pursing their own interests.

    • Replies: @Frankie P
  19. It’s been a rough day.

    It’s nice to read a happy piece. Thank you.

    It’s a race, though. I’m sixty one. Will I live to see Palestine redeemed?

  20. Skeptikal says:
    @Altai

    I can foresee a slew of Jews overrunning Germany, and growing tension and polarization there.
    Back to the same old same old with a hundred-year detour to the JSP (Jewish State in Palestine), where all of the typical Jewish pathologies eventually run amuck and bring the project screeching to a halt. If the Samson option isn’t pulled before then.

    • Replies: @Bookish1
  21. JasonT says:

    The matter is actually very simple. Having conquered the rest of the world, Jews are now fighting for control among themselves. This is typical of the aristocratic elite. The elite first band together to take control from the peasants (in this case the goy), but once that is complete, the internal fighting begins for control until a King is anointed. The pattern us universal.

    There is no “End to Israel” in the near future. Its is simply a settling of which Jews will rule the world.

    • Replies: @iSmellBagels
    , @Z-man
  22. @Gilad Atzmon

    ‘I don’t want to ruin the party but as far as I can tell Israel is not the problem it is just a symptom of the problem … peculiarly, Israel was born to fix the problem …’

    That may be true for Jews.

    With the exception of anti-semites, for the rest of us, Israel isn’t just a symptom of the problem — it’s the problem.

    Seriously. Minus Israel it never would have occurred to me to have any problem with ‘my son the doctor’ and ‘the Hebrew Hammer’ and ‘Saturday the Rabbi slept late,’ and all the rest of it. I just wouldn’t have cared. Knock yourselves out. Dominate Hollywood. Not only would I have not cared, I wouldn’t even have noticed.

  23. @Robert Dolan

    Absolutely correct. If not for the US and it’s Jewish Controlled Congress that never met a money bill for the Magic Jews Israel would be under water already. Our infrastructure is collapsing but we continue to find money for Israel no matter that we have cities with thousands of homeless people with the threat of disease and Middle Age plagues on our door step. Orthodox Jews are like Muslims in many ways because they love the “Welfare State” and they stay on it forever. Sections of New York are saturated with these Orthodox Welfare Jews and idiots like DeBlasio caters to them.

    There is now a backlash by both blacks who hate them and want to kill them for their business practices in real estate and upper middle class residents that refuse to allow them to build their so called “Jewish Orthodox Communes” and take over the areas.

    Israel may have overplayed their hand but that doesn’t mean they will just disappear. They are sick enough to take mankind with them with their eternal wars. Hopefully Netanyahu is crazy enough to start a conflict with Iran who will bomb the shit out of them and then Hezabollah will destroy the wimp military the IDF.

    We can only hope and perhaps mankind will have a chance….

    • Replies: @sally
    , @animalogic
  24. @Priss Factor

    ‘It’s a political problem, not a national one. Politically, there is much bickering. Nationally, Jews are united in Israel.’

    That’s why 40% of the Jews there have said they would leave if only they could.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  25. Israel’s time of trouble will not arrive until the last days are fulfilled. Even then she will ultimately be saved and rewarded by the true GOD. For the immediate future,……….Israel will roll. She shall not fall.

    • LOL: Alden, Al Liguori
    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  26. It is more accurate to call them Talmudists. They are not “Jews”. Jew is a recent abbreviation of Judean. The Ashkenazi came from Asia. They don’t follow the Old Testament. They follow the Talmud, which is Maciavellian to the core. Pure evil. Since God made the man Jesus to be Lord, eventually, their works will be judged, they are headed for destruction morally, you reap what you sew. Israel is the most anti-Semitic country on earth. Which makes them hypocrites. The Arabs and Palestinians are a Semitic people and no one hates and kills them more that Israel.

    • Replies: @Anon
  27. @carnac 123

    No…..that’s not what is says……a remnant will be saved…….Jews that accept Christ will be saved.

    You might be confused about the difference between Israel of the flesh and spiritual Israel.

    Heavenly Jerusalem doesn’t need to be saved because that is The Kingdom Of God and it has nothing to do with the country of Israel.

    Yes, Israel will be saved, with the condition of the acceptance of Christ.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  28. Ok I have to say it. The title alone had me clicking on LIKE.

    Now I will read the piece. ;-))

  29. @Colin Wright

    This is the question I ask myself everyday …

  30. @Colin Wright

    As you may know Zionism was born as a reaction to antisemitsm and this fact alone suggests that people including Jews were aware of the problem before Israel was formed …

  31. Miggle says:

    This is good news. There is hope that these beasts will be put back in their place. Also I understand that Neturei Karta, a radically orthodox Jewish community, is clear that Israel has no right to exist. And they are not alone in that among well-credentialed Jews.

    • Replies: @mark green
  32. Anon[144] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rational

    The main reason Israel will finish is because the Moses hoax has been exposed.

    Older Orthodox Jews know that Moses never existed as a historical figure. It doesn’t matter if he existed or not. His existence isn’t the point of the religion whatsoever. Moses is part of a mythology that speaks almost entirely to the present rather than to the past. Which is the primary interpretive secret of the Tanakh. The Tanakh is a giant allegory for the present. Moses is allegorical. The Exodus is allegorical. All the the calls to genocide Israel’s opposition are allegorical. It follows that the fact that Moses never existed is much scarier and more threatening than if he had. That some goyim figured out that Moses “never existed” couldn’t matter less to Jews and their agendas, precisely because it isn’t a pillar of the religion. Its more like a fresco. Few goyim will make the leap to figure out the modern implications of the Moses mythology.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @SaneClownPosse
  33. Giuseppe says:
    @Gilad Atzmon

    I don’t want to ruin the party but as far as I can tell Israel is not the problem it is just a symptom of the problem … peculiarly, Israel was born to fix the problem

    Interesting point of view, actually, one of the most profound things I have ever read. If this is their calling, and I too somehow believe it is, they need to turn around, because they are kind of falling down on the job. So I look forward to that great day of turning. However, when they call you names, anti-Semite, self-hating Jew, or whatever else they might dig up, they greatly err, because you are a watchman on the wall.

  34. ‘As you may know Zionism was born as a reaction to antisemitsm…’

    Meh. Anti-semitism was around for quite a while before anyone thought of Zionism. If anything, Zionism appeared in an era of rapidly declining anti-semitism.

    I’d describe Zionism as the Jewish version of the racial nationalism so popular with everyone else at the time. Europe in the second half of the nineteenth century was possessed by nationalism. So Jews took it up too.

    • Replies: @mcohen
  35. FvS says:

    It is the patriotic duty of all American Jews to relocate to Israel and help their nation thrive. Remember the holocaust. Also, democracy is garbage.

    • Replies: @Rabbitnexus
    , @Antares
  36. It’s more of the will to dominate than a reaction to “anti-semitism.”

  37. Frankie P says:
    @Saggy

    Gilad has expressed his views on this topic many, many times. The early Zionists desired a Jewish State to make Jews human. By this, I mean that they were well aware of the Jewish Question and the repeated bad behavior of Jews in host societies, both Muslim and Christian. They were conscious of the economic role of powerful Jews, particularly with their usurious financial practices, but also as tax collectors and enforcers for the aristocracy. This, along with their tilted ethnocentric business practices, favoring their own while fleecing the goyim, invariably led to their control of what were traditionally local businesses, creating a growing resentment in local societies that reached critical mass. What followed were pogroms and expulsion. This occurred in both Muslim and Christian lands, but were especially pronouncrd in Christian Europe, which took more aggressive protective actions to shield itself.

    The early Zionists wanted to be the midwives of a Jewish State that would solve the JQ by making a nation of Jews, in which Jews carried out all of the work, took all the jobs, from garbage collecting to farming, from street cleaner to bank president. They wanted to stop the pogroms and expulsions, but at the same time they were keenly aware that these were effects of Jewish behavior and actions, not senseless anti-Semitism of the goyim. So, yes Israel was conceived and born to solve the problem.

    It didn’t.

    • Agree: L.K
  38. It is the responsibility of every American citizen to insure the continuation of the state of Isreal. This nation entered into a pact with Israel on Nov 22, 1963. We must support the Judeo-Christian world view. Israel is our greatest ally ever.

    • Troll: Gordo
    • Replies: @General Koofta
  39. Now I have read the article I can only say I agree. I have said for years that Israel’s worst enemy is “Israel” and the more rabid the Zionists are the faster will arrive their fall. Trump has been great, giving them all the rope they need for a good strong noose. He has given them much, but let’s see them hold onto it.

  40. @Colin Wright

    40% is still lower than in most nations where 80% want to leave.

  41. @FvS

    Since NOBODY of worth already living there will ever accept the existence of a Zionist state, how about instead they apply their giant intelligence to build a giant spaceship and fly to Mars? Mars a planet without a people, for a people without a planet.

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  42. @Colin Wright

    That depends on how long you live. I’m 56 and fully expect to see their end. I also expect to live to at least 130. That said I reckon less than 20 years to they’ll be facing their true existential threat.

  43. @A123

    A false dichotomy there: Judea and Samaria are conquest against the will of the inhabitants, Crimea was self determination within the spirit and letter of the UN Charter – but we already knew that didn’t we! 😉

    • Agree: Robjil
    • Replies: @nymom
  44. Well Israel’s fascism is sure showing itself more and more. I almost don’t get called an antisemite anymore for discussing the Talmud and Jewish history!

    I wonder if letting the Jews reveal themselves to the world was Stalin’s cheeky plan all along.

    • Replies: @Mike P
  45. @Miggle

    Neturei Karta Jews may claim that they believe that Israel “has no right to exist”, but many thousands of Jews who supposedly belong to this ultra-orthodox sect are living happily in Jerusalem.

    As far as I know, they have expressed no intention of leaving. Curious.

    • Replies: @Miggle
    , @Skeptikal
  46. Technomad says:
    @Priss Factor

    Israel is to the world what Joffrey was to Game of Thrones.

  47. refl says:
    @Gilad Atzmon

    As you may know Zionism was born as a reaction to antisemitsm and this fact alone suggests that people including Jews were aware of the problem before Israel was formed …

    Was it? Or was antisemitism the solution by the jewish leadership to the dissolution of their community in modern arreligious society? Was antisemitism the virtual ghetto wall?
    Tell the people within that those outside want to kill them, at the same time having a small faction of very cunning Jews who go outside and produce trouble that then by necessity falls back on the whole community?

    I find it quite astonishing when I read how privileged certain Jews were in European states, compared to what was the norm for regular Christian folks.
    And indeed, also Christians were butchered, expelled etc in more religious times.

  48. Anon[161] • Disclaimer says:

    As the US has been the ‘safety value’ of Mexico, so the US is the ‘safety value’ of Israel. When Mexicans decide they don’t like their own country, they just move to the US. When Jews decide they don’t like Israel, they move to the US. But the type of Jew that does this is the liberal Jew. Consequently, we get all the left-wing crazies, and Israel has been slowly changing into a more tribal and conservative nation-state as their liberals hive off.

    If Israel ever does become a messianic country, though, look out. That sort of person makes really lousy foreign policy decisions.

    • Replies: @Wally
  49. @Rabbitnexus

    “…Mars a planet without a people, for a people without a planet…”

    As an autochthonous Martian, I am not delighted with that proposal. I know what happened to the autochthonous Palestinians…

    • LOL: Rabbitnexus
    • Replies: @Ilya G Poimandres
  50. Anon[161] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    “Will I live to see Palestine redeemed?”

    No.

    Of course not.

    Bitching about your next-door neighbor does not a nation-state make. The Palestinians don’t have what it takes to be a nation. They’re just one big lousy neighborhood.

    They’re no better than a black inner-city ghetto that has to live off of the money of outsiders to survive.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Colin Wright
  51. J says: • Website

    Jews are high-energy people (sans violence) and Gilad is confusing the ferocious rivalry for Israel’s leadership with a self-destructive civil war. Under all that noise there is country growing and strengthening very fast. Regarding the Palestinians being “in good shape” I can only wonder about Gilad’s sanity.

    • Replies: @Wally
  52. mena says:

    … peculiarly, Israel was born to fix the problem …

    I have heard you say this before and remain surprised that you seem to believe this. The whole ” people like any other people” hasbara may have been a sales approach tailored to a particular audience at some point, but any sincerity behind it has been demonstrably beside the point. Israel has been a projection of raw power from the start.

    • Replies: @Gilad Atzmon
  53. JoannF says:
    @Priss Factor

    But they’re diminishing America, as well as Europe. by replacing the Whites and flooding it with welfare dependents. US welfare will be in dire straits as much as Israeli welfare. If the immigrants adapt to US ways and stop breeding, there will be the same situation as now, at a lower IQ level.
    If they carry on behaving as now, there will be additional population explosion. Only idiots think that this is beneficial (they do exist and thrive).
    And only magical thinkers can BELIEVE that EITHER is going to work out well.
    I wonder how this plays with the “Jewish Common Destiny” project ?
    A spectre of 007 dimensions, trying to lift its own ass from an upcoming, self-generated quagmire, hoping it will end up on top of a sinking, stinking planet. What we learn is that insanity can be calculative.

  54. Brewer says:
    @Gilad Atzmon

    Rarely a cigarette paper’s width between your perception of these matters and mine. I have tried to rehabilitate your image among the semis (the Mondoweiss crowd who don”t seem to understand your realistic stance) but I have to wonder about “Zionism was born as a reaction to antisemitism”.
    Antisemitism seems to me to be a concept given way too much credibility by the reaction of its victims. One does not have to look very far to find other races, identities who have suffered equally – Africans, Irish, Huguenot, Scots, Maori, Aboriginal – ad infinitum.
    I well remember the fifties and sixties when opportunity beckoned from lands afar.
    I suggest that Zionism offered something similar. Cheap (or free) land.
    I suggest that the impetus to emigrate was as much an opportunity to improve one’s status as it was a reaction to prejudice – it was sold as such.
    Consider Ruppin’s bloviations:
    http://www.zionism-israel.com/Arthur_Ruppin_1929.htm
    It was a sales job lying in wait for those who might have had an epithet launched at them or suffered the consequences of War just as many other ethnic identities did.
    Most of us simply picked up and got on. For European Jews, Zionism offered a Utopian ideal.

  55. sally says:
    @niteranger

    Are you sure => “we continue to find money for Israel” <=unless you are among the elected 527 that run the USA you probably are not included in the WE.. did you vote (either yes or no) to send money to Israel?

    Three votes (one to select a person to fill one of (1/425) jobs in the house of representatives, and 1 vote to select each of 2 persons to fill two senate jobs (2/100) does not make most Americans into deciding members of the USA. Not only that, at election time, American votes for President or VP do not count, because the electoral college vote decides who shall be President or vice President? So why do the candidates spend billions on the presidential elections?

    350,000,000 Americans are governed by 527 salaried persons, who are elected to work at the USA.

    Israel is a product of the bankers and their corporations; it began in earnest in 1897 in Switzerland.

    The great success of Zionism (not racially or religiously connected) has been its networking ability. It can identify and intercept opposing forces, transport resources($, and people) in invisible ways, to/from multi many places, to focus on and to support a target project (local, regional, national or international) . The network that facilitates this "always win intention" works like a newspaper on one side, keeping all elements informed, and on the other side, like a powerful, but invisible government; seeking or willing to invade, protect or promote a place, project or person on the other side.

    The network can concentrate fire power, vote power, impose political pressure, control the media, and develop the means to take advantage of, or put down, situation or opportunity or it can protect a friend in need. In a few days, a local situation or a massive opportunity can be "crowd funded" or "petition protected" via the network. For hypothetical example, say the NYT comes up for sale, in a short while a person with meager credit, tenders a multi-billion dollar offer backed with financing sufficient to acquire the opportunity? So how did the credit come to make this possible?

    Its not Israel per se..that the USA congress supports: its the banking establishments and their powerful multi nation corporations, seeking to control the middle east, seeking to use "in the course of commerce" as their excuse for invisible weapon, mind control, and spy technology development. Its Economic Zionism that explains the foreign nation state support for Israel. IMO except for the propaganda value, race or religion has little to do with it.

    • Agree: Durruti
  56. @Priss Factor

    “The King of Jewish Power is the hold over America.”
    Yes, & by extension, the whole West.

  57. @Gilad Atzmon

    Why not infuse Israel with the tons of fanatical leftist(godless) Jews we have in Germany and Europe? They could counter the orthodox leeching by providing work force, and could additionally work their bottoms off on “racism”, transform settlements in gay discos and do all the other professional complaints they make in Europe, like open borders.
    The Jews in Europe are always scared, if Netanyahu calls them to Israel due to “anti-semitism”. If a non Jew says something similar, its evil and “anti-semitic” of course.

    It is quite interesting to note, that Israel develops in a theocracy(always has been in my view), while the Jews outside Israel seek to disprove/kill god and are in rebellion against god, nature, more or less play god.

    • Replies: @Alexandros
  58. Antares says:
    @FvS

    “It is the patriotic duty of all American Jews to relocate to Israel and help their nation thrive. Remember the holocaust. Also, democracy is garbage.”

    You could be an American patriot who doesn’t want to pay 3.8 billion per year.

  59. @niteranger

    “Hopefully Netanyahu is crazy enough to start a conflict with Iran who will bomb the shit out of them”
    On its face, not an unwelcome outcome — but, as you say earlier:
    “They are sick enough to take mankind with them with their eternal wars.”
    I suspect we can all see the problem here — they ARE sick enough to start a nuclear war, and “take mankind with them “

    • Replies: @A123
  60. gotmituns says:

    Theodor Herzl said, “Where there is no anti Semitism, there are no Jews.”

  61. Lol says:
    @Gilad Atzmon

    The issue is that regular Europeans have diminishing rates of sympathy for Jews and the only reason European politics don’t trash Israel is largely vassalage to America and not having an independent foreign policy.

    With Americans ruining their relations with everyone, this will most likely change since there’s no real reason for Europeans to source military equipment from outside the EU, have sanctions on Iran or Russia instead of backing their infrastructure projects, not back China in the Pacific if it offers a better deal etc.

    Essentially, Jews will be America’s problem and rightfully so considering right wing Americans can’t seem to stop sucking Jewish dick.

  62. Anon[241] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dennis Gannon

    May I suggest you cease to rely on the one book you almost read 30 years ago and read up on all the subjects you touch on. You should learn how to ask good questions in a search engine. You could start by inquiring about what DNA studies teach about Jewish ancestry.

    • Replies: @Truth3
  63. Lol says:
    @A123

    The only realistic plan would probably involve Israel not violating the fourth Geneva convention anymore which would mean the Jewish settlements on territories outside the pre-1967 borders will cease to exist as Jewish in any way.

    Once you reject international law, you can’t appeal to it anymore, but you must be Jewish if you think you can pick and choose what suits you. Lol

    • Replies: @A123
  64. “We, David? There is no we. Your short-sighted, self-centered tribe destroyed America and demoralized Western civilization because it harbors pathological hatred for Greece, Rome, and Christianity. But now you’re finally beginning to figure out that the Chinese are going to be considerably less tolerant of your subversive shenanigans than the West ever was and you’re utterly terrified as a result.

    Even when persecution is great, very few Chosen reach this level of self-awareness, certainly not enough to stop the undermining.

  65. Aside from describing contentious politics. There’s nothing in this article that supports that said politics will result in a termination of the Israel.

  66. Sean says:

    rabid nationalists

    Is this referring to the rabies that are Jewish priests?

  67. Kali says:
    @Gilad Atzmon

    Israel existed as a concept/notion implanted into the minds of ‘jews’ looooong before the invasion and colonisation of Palestine.

    As you say Gilad, “israel” is a symptom of a pre-existing problem.

    Until “israel” as a concept is removed from the minds of those who would develope that concept into a physical nation state, exclusive to the barers of that mental imbalance (jews) the “jewish problem” remains for the rest of humanity to deal with.

    Fortunately people around the western world now seem to be at the biginning of an understanding of what “jewishness” actually is. Only time will tell if this is enough or if it’s ‘too little, too late’.

    I’m reasonably optimistic.

    With love,
    Kali.

  68. mike k says:

    Apparently being born, or deciding to be Jewish is just as big a problem for a person as being American or Russian or Chinese or German or Whatever. Maybe separating oneself from all other possible groupings is the problem? When will enough of us wake up to being simply citizens of Earth?

  69. Gordo says:

    A question Mister Atzmon if I may, what is the ultra-Orthodox view on the atomics?

    Nothing Messianic one hopes.

  70. @Rational

    The “Holy Hook” is being exposed on a level never imagined. Charles Giuliani has a great series out exposing the “Tribe”. This is one of my favorites:
    http://www.renegadebroadcasting.com/truth-hertz-pimp-daddy-abrahams-adventures-in-egypt-6-17-19/

  71. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    The loonie Avi Lieberman is salivating at the thought being Israeli PM, and the loonie Nuttyahoo is salivating at the thought of staying PM and using that power to keep his sorry ass out of prison.

    Presented with those two choices is like a robber asking its victim, “Do you want to be stabbed with a knife or shot with a gun?”

  72. @Robert Dolan

    America will never be shed of this parasite until the fundamentalist Christian Zionist/NeoCons are swept from power. They are every bit as insane as the radicalized Muslims. You tell me which country this clown truly servers!!

    • Agree: ChuckOrloski
    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
  73. anonymous[420] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Few goyim will make the leap to figure out the modern implications of the Moses mythology.

    You should discuss that with @ Dennis Gannon, who appears to be tangled in a ball of misunderstanding or ignorance, especially of Machiavelli, evident when he wrote:

    The Ashkenazi came from Asia. They don’t follow the Old Testament. They follow the Talmud, which is Maciavellian to the core. Pure evil.

    Crack open The Prince: Machiavelli “figured out the modern implications of the Moses mythology.” Of three candidates Machiavelli considered, he selected Moses as the model Prince. Certain “evil” behavior that became necessary to save his beloved city, Florence, and make it a Republic of and for the people of Florence, was acceptable, inasmuch as Moses, whose chief counselor was god himself, used whatever means necessary to achieve the wellbeing of the conquerors of Canaan.

    If only the people of the USA had a Prince as evil, and as dedicated to the wellbeing of the American people, as Machiavelli was to Florence.

    • Replies: @Anon
  74. anon[262] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Bitching about your next-door neighbor does not a nation-state make. The Palestinians don’t have what it takes to be a nation. They’re just one big lousy neighborhood.

    Keep telling yourself that, little jew parasite.

    They’re no better than a black inner-city ghetto that has to live off of the money of outsiders to survive.

    Yeah, that describes you money grubbing jew parasite welfare queens down to the ground.

  75. COMPLETE LIST OF ATTEMPTED JEWISH EXPULSIONS (1,030)
    (with explanations and sources)

    https://lordmolyneaux.wordpress.com/2018/05/02/complete-list-of-jewish-expulsions-908/

  76. bjondo says:
    @Gilad Atzmon

    Antisemitism was/is a reaction to Torah-Talmud (add holocaust) attitude.

  77. anon[262] • Disclaimer says:

    The End of Israel

    Can’t come soon enough. And it will.

    • Replies: @iSmellBagels
  78. Frankie P says:
    @Brewer

    “Zionism was born as a reaction to antisemitism.” Gilad is correct, but I believe that implicit in his statement is the understanding that the “antisemitism” is reactionary: it is born out of the anti gentile behavior and actions of Jews in gentile host societies. Gilad, please correct me if I’ve misrepresented you.

  79. Israel is a terrorist state ran by terrorists for terrorists and its goal is to destroy the mideast for its greater Israel agenda and with the help of the zionist controlled zio/US government and the American taxpayers funding of these wars and providing the military muscle the zionists are now their way to armageddon!

    • Agree: Republic
  80. @Frankie P

    Fascinatingly, Frankie P credited Gilad Atzmon’s astute Israeli political “views” and also opined upon cunning Zionist pioneers of Israel and how: “They were conscious of the economic role of powerful Jews, particularly with their usurious financial practices, but also as tax collectors and enforcers for the aristocracy.”

    Hey Frankie P!

    Appreciate being on the receiving end of your thought, and thanks!

    Am wondering if either you or perhaps even Gilad Atzmon could offer a “view” into who is Israel’s “Top Dog” in the country’s presumed 🤔 Treasury Department, perhaps an individual whose equivalent to either the US Federal Reserve Chairman or Treasury Secretary?

    Hm. Beyond the presumed Rothschild base, does such a center representing “the power of the purse” even exist in Israel?

    At any rate, my “Homeland” USrael ‘guvmint racket has the very powerful Treasury Secretary, Steven Mnuchin who dips his Sanctionista/Moneychanger hands directly into the Executive Branch’s conduct of foreign policy.

    Linked down below & fyi is a PressTV article which reported upon the Chosen One tRump’s, Treasury Secretary Mnuchin’s “media brief,” haha, and where he proclaimed that Zionized “Washington will press ahead with maximum pressure against Iran, despite President Trump’s firing of NSA John Bolton.”😟

    https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2019/09/13/606073/US-pursuing-maximum-pressure-against-Iran-despite-Bolton-removal-Mnuchin

    Proceeding along a deductive thought pattern, below is another perhaps overwhelming question:
    Is there a disconnect between the US’s Treasury Department & Federal Reserve system🤑and that of Israel’s fortunes & their wherewithal to spend debt-based money w/o a cap limit, an ominous Ram Horn toll? Thanks again for your service, Frankie P,!

  81. @JasonT

    Pretty much spot on, but we do hope Israhell hanges itself.

  82. @Robert Dolan

    Oy Vey such an antisemitic you are, but soooo true.

  83. @anon

    AMEN brother. Cancer should be cured.

  84. Robjil says:

    For decades after world war II, we have be led to believe that Jews never did anything wrong ever in history. Jewish led MSM touts this endlessly 24/7 . Anyone who thinks otherwise is ostracized, jailed or job-less.

    What are the roots of this great Jewish fear of being exposed of doing any wrong in public? This is one clue from the Talmud about why this so.

    https://velveteenrabbi.blogs.com/blog/2013/02/to-shame-someone-is-to-shed-their-blood.html

    One who embarrasses another in public, it is as if that person shed blood.

    — Babylonian Talmud, Baba Mezia 58b

    Top people lead the human species. They always have. Jewish culture has been the Top people in western and soviet/post-soviet world for the past hundred years.

    Jewish culture doesn’t allow for any criticism of its Top people. It does not matter what they do, even if their recklessness is destroying our planet, which exacting what they are doing now.

    Yet, we can’t say anything about what the Top Jews are doing. It is “anti-Semitic” to do so. Top people lead the human species. Humans to survive as a species must be “allowed” to criticize, reform and protest the actions of its Top people. Otherwise, humans will go the way of the Dodo.

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
    • Replies: @Durruti
  85. @Brewer

    My definition of antisemitism is any pushback against crimes of the Ashkenazi.

  86. Andrew F says:
    @utu

    voxday.blogspot.com/2019/09/the-pivot-to-china-is-definitely-off.html

  87. @Gilad Atzmon

    … peculiarly, Israel was born to fix the problem …

    Things will get interesting if a few Israelis conclude that the problem is too many people. With today’s technology it won’t take too many to “fix” the problem.

    • Replies: @Richard B
  88. Miggle says:
    @mark green

    No intention of leaving where? If they are living happily in Jerusalem, Palestine, in harmony with other Palestinians, and reject that “Israel” exists, what’s “curious”?

    • Replies: @Miggle
  89. Israel is not an ally of the United States of America.

    Israel is a client-state millstone of the American Empire that uses diasporan Jews such as Shelly Adelson to buy off politicians such as President Trump.

    Andrew Jackson and George Washington would immediately sever all ties to Israel and they would make sure that diasporan Jews that put the interests of Israel over and ahead of the interests of the USA were strongly encouraged to permanently leave the USA. Those Jews who put the interests of Israel over and ahead of the interests of the USA should be disallowed from gaining entry into any other European Christian nation such as Canada, Australia, Germany, France, England, Italy, Spain…etc.

    It would also be a no-go Blavatsky for these diasporan Jews who put the interests of Israel ahead of the interests of the USA to go to South America or Asia or anywhere else. Israel must be made into a receptacle that will contain and constrain the ability of diasporan Jews and Israeli Jews from interfering in the governmental affairs of any other nation.

    One of the reasons I will not vote for Trump and the Republican Party is that Trump and the Republicans put the interests of Israel over and ahead of the interests of the United States of America.

    Trump seems to get the fact that the American Empire is a completely and totally separate entity from the United States of America. Trump seems to understand that resistance to Shelly Adelson’s demands about foreign policy decisions regarding Israel is the best way to show patriotism to the USA.

    The JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire is a clear and present threat to the safety, security and sovereignty of the United States of America

    THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA FIRST!

  90. Miggle says:
    @Miggle

    A further point:
    @mark green:

    many thousands of Jews who supposedly belong to this ultra-orthodox sect

    If I understand rightly, that “ultra” is a smear. They are the real, historic orthodox, and the others, the “modern orthodox”, are fakes.

  91. Jew billionaire Shelly Adelson puts the interests of Israel ahead of the interests of the USA.

    Jew billionaire Shelly Adelson has donated hundreds of millions of dollars to President Trump and the Republican Party over the years.

    What has all that loot bought for diasporan Jew Adelson?

    Is Adelson buying the foreign policy of the USA?

    How come that dumb boob Chris Christie used the word “occupied” in front of Adelson when Christie was trying to pry some loot out of Adelson’s checkbook? DUMMY!

    Tweet from 2015:

  92. The ruling class in Israel wants to continue to use the US military as muscle to fight wars on behalf of Israel.

    The ADL puts the interests of Israel ahead of the interests of the United States of America.

    The ADL is an evil and immoral JEW PRESSURE GROUP that pushes mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration and REFUGEE OVERLOAD and ASYLUM SEEKER INUNDATION and multicultural mayhem and all manner of other anti-White crud.

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
  93. @Charles Pewitt

    Agree, the zionists have controlled the American people since 1913 when they fastened their privately owned central bank aka the FED and IRS on to the American people and then came the foreign wars and debt and total control of the American people by the zionists and their banking kabal.

    Nathan Rothschild infamously said; I care not what puppet is place on the throne of England for the man who controls the money supply controls the British Empire, and I am that man!

    The same holds true here in the zio/US the zionists have control of the money supply via the FED and we are slaves on the zionist plantation aka America, and a central bank and the income tax are 2 of the 10 planks of the communist manifesto, and zionism = communism!

  94. @Charles Pewitt

    Charles Pewitt opined🙄: “Israel is not an ally of the United States of America.”

    Hi Charles.

    Above, agreed, yes! Israel is much-much more than a mere shifting ally of the Zionist USA.

    Then having very (unsafely) gone off the Gaderene cliff deep end, you opined, “Trump seems to understand that resistance to Shelly Adelson’s demands about foreign policy decisions regarding Israel is the best way to show patriotism to the USA.” 🙄

    Re above; Like an aged Scranton-based dumb goyim Atlas, I must shrug and say, “Yeah that’s not my granddaddy’s Lindbergh patriotism to the USA.”

    Below is linked some Brother Nathanael Kapner Real Jew Medicine, for your intake and secure well being. in closin, thanks for offering the much < sensible "America First" nice try, Charles Pewitt!

    Introducing "Time to end the Jewish Fed."

    https://www.bitchute.com/channel/ZJeT5Q4CHwch/

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Charles Pewitt
  95. @Flint Clint

    Belief in Jesus is a very serious mistake.

  96. A123 says:
    @Lol

    Once you reject international law, you can’t appeal to it anymore,

    The U.N. intentionally violated international law when it stole Jewish Palestinian land guaranteed in the 20’s. Pick (A) or (B), you can have only one as the selection is mutually exlusive:

    (A) Real international law
    (B) U.N. War Crimes that repudiate international law

    The U.N. is a theatre stage. At most it is a good place to give a speech, and I am being generous giving it that much credit. Nothing developed there is enforcable. No one serious believes in it anymore.

    The world desperately needs to get rid of the U.N. so international law can work again. Until that happens the correct and legal response to deranged U.N. actions that are obviously faux-law is “Laugh, Mock, & Ignore”.

    PEACE 😇

    • Troll: renfro
  97. a Noyance says:

    Doth not the disproportionately, Jewish controlled, borderless corporations control society, rule the globe?

  98. Richard B says:
    @Robert Dolan

    Israel can depend on handouts from America because those handouts in turn wind up as campaign contributions so that Congress can give Israel more handouts.

    American Jews + European Jews + Israel = Jewish Supremacy Inc.

    Robert’s quote, as well as Gilad’s article, help explain a number of things.

    Why their attacks on Whites worldwide is becoming more concentrated and intense.

    Attacks which include False Flags, Hate Hoaxes, and the usual Propaganda masquerading as “Truth” that follows.

    It explains why their partnership with China is so important.

    Why China’s “control” (ie; partnership with its, as always, “silent” partner JSI) of Google, and not just Google, should concern us all.

    The quote and aritlce are also confirmed by a number of TUR articles, particularly the two recent ones from Whitney Webb.

    I’m sure many of TUR readers could add to this list.

    For now though I’d like to add two quotes from The International Jew (available here at The TUR library) that are pertinent to these considerations.

    The quotes are telling because they show what seperates Jewish thought on the subject of Nationalism from that of Whites (or Europeans and their geographical extensions, The USA, etc.).

    [MORE]

    “I will give you my definition of a nation, and you can add the adjective ‘Jewish.’ A Nation is, in my mind, an historical group of men of a recognizable cohesion held together by a common enemy. Then, if you add to that the word ‘Jewish’ you have what I understand to be the Jewish nation.”

    —THEODOR HERZL.

    “Let us all recognize that we Jews are a distinct nationality of which every Jew, whatever his country, his station, or shade of belief, is necessarily a member.”

    —LOUIS D. BRANDEIS, Justice of the United States Supreme Court.

    Note that they are “held together by a common enemy” and that this is why “Jews are a dstinct nationality.”

    What is this if not “Intolerance” and “Supremacy.”

    Whites are not united by either. Of course! Making the accusation of White Supremacy ludicrous and ultimately self-refuting.

    The accusation of White Supremacy is impossible to believe in as fact. Because there’s no evidence for it – anywhere.

    But the accusation is very possible to believe in as example of psychological projection. Which it is. Obviously.

    In any event, inter-racial conflicts among Whites aside, Whites moved inexorably toward a common goal.

    What was that goal?

    Every culture, everywhere in the world, primitive, barbaric, civilized or near it, all had one thing in common.

    They all imposed four sanctions against themselves as a justification for the culture’s strength and survival. A culture of blind obedience to authority. Those sanction were (and remain in such cultures)

    1. Economic Deprivation
    2. Imprisonment
    3. Torture
    4. Death

    Whites (European man, or whatever you want to call him) were the only people in world history to attempt to invert those four sanctions to create a culture of individual conscience.

    1. Economic Ease
    2. The Privileges of Freedom
    3. Respect for the Individual
    4. Respect for Life

    To make this work Whites did something else no other group has ever considered, let alone attempted.

    It permitted its authority to be criticized.

    With the idea being that such criticism made in the pursuit of truth would improve the quality of life through the culture’s social-institutions by removing the many illusions and errors that any authoritarian culture inevitably accumulates.

    And this, incredibly, Whites actually did.

    Which is exactly why the entire world is tripping over itself to get to Western Europe and North America, as well as Australia and New Zealand.

    Unfortunately, the continued success of such a culture requires a quality of mind and of sustained intention that was simply disappearing during the 20th century and now is not to be found in numbers large enough to make a difference.

    The result was that, not just the coutries, but the entire civilization Whites created became more and more vulnerable to infiltration, subversion and ulimately, destruction.

    The greatest experiment the world has ever known devolved in no time flat into an evil empire of fools controlled by knaves.

    But now at least we know.

    What do we know?

    That Jewish Supremacy Inc. is unsustainable to itself, intolerable to freedom lovers the world over, and a very real threat to the survival of Whites, and not just Whites.

    We also know that this insanity will not stop itself.

    • Agree: Robjil
  99. So the Orthodox will turn Israel into a big shtetl within the span of next fifty years with the financial help of the “secular” Jews in the West and then they would want to do away with the LGBTQ crowd out of Tel Aviv… you reap what you sow!

  100. Richard B says:
    @Gilad Atzmon

    As you may know Zionism was born as a reaction to antisemitsm

    So Zionism caused Antisemitism.

    Ok. Fair enough.

    So what caused Antisemitism?

    • Replies: @bjondo
    , @Kolya Krassotkin
  101. @A123

    You choose to validate theft. 8th commandment. (or you have to accept Israel Shahak’s ‘thou shall not kidnap a Jew’ thing).

    Honestly?! OK. We accept your take on the agreements that A and B made on C’s land.

    For the future – how does this stop, say, China and Bhutan (so understated), from carving out Future Israel for themselves?

    Your rule allows it!

    • Replies: @A123
  102. Richard B says:
    @another fred

    Things will get interesting if a few Israelis conclude that the problem is too many people. With today’s technology it won’t take too many to “fix” the problem.

    Do you mean population reduction?

    Because that’s certainly something I see more and more people commenting on.

    As in – First comes replacemet. Then reduction.

    There’s defntely the vibe out there that the hostile elite have found an easier, softer way, or ways, to eliminate lots of and lots of people.

    Who knows?

    But I guess we’ll find out soon enough.

  103. geokat62 says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Introducing “Time to end the Jewish Fed.”

    Great video, Chuck!

    Just before Brother Nathanael finished the video, he decided to go “off script” and presented his proposal on how to “fix” The West:

    Everybody, we’ve got to start with monetary reform.

    Kick the Jews out of money creation. They steal money into existence, as I said, because it doesn’t represent labor. It doesn’t represent goods and services.

    We start with that.

    And then we have to do something about our ruined culture. Jews in the Press, Jews in the Media, Jews in Hollywood, Jews in Education are pushing homosexuality, lesbianism, transgenderism for children.

    What’s the solution? Well, there is a solution. They’ve got their Jewish state in Israel. Send them there. Get them out of here. Every single Jew has to leave.

    Let them go to their ‘ancient homeland’. Let them make good on their claim.

    Any Jew who wants to remain? Strip them of their citizenship, and they are not allowed to be involved in politics.

    We have to do what the Byzantine Empire did. They cannot be in finance. They cannot be in civil service. And they cannot be in education.

    This country can be fixed.

    There’s a disease in this country. The carriers have to be removed.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @Incitatus
  104. A123 says:
    @animalogic

    “Hopefully Netanyahu is crazy enough to start a conflict with Iran who will bomb the shit out of them”
    On its face, not an unwelcome outcome — but, as you say earlier:
    “They are sick enough to take mankind with them with their eternal wars.”
    I suspect we can all see the problem here — they ARE sick enough to start a nuclear war, and “take mankind with them “

    You are approaching something important here, but some corrections are required.

    Known sociopath Ayatollah Khameni is SICK enough to start a conflict with Israeli in an attempt to exterminate the millions of Jews that live there. As the Persian ethnic leader, he would be more than happy to accept millions of dead Arabs as collateral damage if that allowed him to achieve his goal of a judenfrei land.

    The only thing keeping the mentally diseased Iranian leader in check is the modern version of Mutually Assured Destruction [MAD] and the associated “Use it or Lose it” force posture. Israel would be justified in using every nuclear weapon in its arsenal to defend against Iranian aggression and no one really knows how many they have. 200+, 300+, more? Yes, Iran could cause the end of all life on the planet if Khameni is crazy enough to order a fight to the death situation. One would hope that the Iranian military would refuse to intentionally suicide on his orders, but there is no way to be sure that would happen.

    Many Arab gulf nations recognize the horror a Persian first strike could produce and are helping to contain the threat. Financial pressure is working, but slowly. There will be precarious days ahead until the Iranian people choose new leadership, allowing Iran to rejoin the community of civilized nations. The inevitable end of Iranian al’Hezbollah violence in Lebanon and Iranian al’Hamas violence in Israel will provide many opportunities for peace and prosperity in the region. All should pray these days arrive sooner rather than later.

    PEACE 😇

    • Troll: Pat Kittle
    • Replies: @anon
    , @Pat Kittle
  105. Durruti says:
    @Robjil

    Excellent statement:

    Permit 2 differences. I’ll start with the last – & most important.

    Humans to survive as a species must be “allowed” to criticize, reform and protest the actions of its Top people.

    1. Humans, specially American Humans, must do more. We must do what the Hezbollah are doing. We must do what the Novorossyans of the Donbas are doing. We must do what the Taliban of Afghanistan, the Partisans (Houthis) in Yemen, Syrian Army, Sein Fein, & what our Forefathers did, Committees of Correspondence, to Sons of Liberty, to Minutemen.

    Criticize & Protest are fine, for early actions, but they only if they contribute to further change. Criticize & Protest only bear fruit if these early organizations/actions advance into political Dual Power, and later, with a Military Wing (for self defense), from Dual Power, to Liberty, and, in our case, the Restoration of Our American Republic.

    After their ruthless control of the economic Sphere, the Rothschild Terror of Armed MOSSAD/puppet CIA, and their associated Armed Bodies (Armies), are their last strongholds that draw blood – daily on our planet; And these Armed Bodies must also-finally, be overcome.

    I apologize for being the first on this Forum to make this point. [Or do I apologize?]
    The Minutemen were not just History; they were us. We remain-They.

    Durruti

    *2. Repeat after me, I am not an anti-Semite. I like Arabs.

  106. anon[117] • Disclaimer says:
    @A123

    Your Peace is Pus from the wound known as Israel.

  107. Along with “The End of Israel” (and its supporters/sayianim/etc) we MUST END the FED in USA as well.

    Here is the message LOUD and CLEAR.

    http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=1398

  108. Mike P says:
    @Ilya G Poimandres

    I wonder if letting the Jews reveal themselves to the world was Stalin’s cheeky plan all along.

    I read somewhere that he expected the Arabs to react to the establishment of Israel by turning to the Soviet Union for protection – that is pretty close to your speculation.

  109. A123 says:
    @Ilya G Poimandres

    For the future – how does this stop, say, China and Bhutan (so understated), from carving out Future Israel for themselves?

    Please provide citations that Israel wishes to obtain parts of China. I believe you will find this is impossible. Until then we will all classify your assertion as wild and hysterical exaggeration.

    You choose to validate theft. 8th commandment.

    Not again… OK, let’s repeat the lesson since you insist.

    How many Muslims were in Palestine at the following dates?
    — 400 BC?
    — 200 BC?
    — 0 BC/AD?
    — 200 AD?
    — 400 AD?

    Islam is not native to Palestine. Muslims colonizers violated the 8th Commandment (Thou Shalt not Steal) and the 6th Commandment (Thou Shalt not Kill) when the occupiers arrived ~600 AD.

    The fact that the Muslim colonizers stole the land primarily from Roman colonizers who had stolen it from others does not make the theft acceptable. Trading in stolen property is still theft.
    _____

    Despite the fact that Islam is foreign to Palestine, binding International Law set in the 1920’s was quite generous to Muslims. They got over 3/4 of Palestine.

    Why do you continue to advocate for repudiation of binding international law (that predates U.N. faux-law)?

    When will de-colonization occur — Ending the failed Muslim attempt to steal, occupy, and colonize “Infidel” lands?

    PEACE 😇

  110. @Anon

    ‘…They’re no better than a black inner-city ghetto that has to live off of the money of outsiders to survive.’

    First you’re talking about the Palestinians, then you start referring to the Jews. Make up your mind.

  111. @mcohen

    https://m.jpost.com/Israel-News/Free-Zion-coin-minted-1967-years-ago-unveiled-475062

    You do realize that qualifies as an early example of the Palestinian struggle for freedom, don’t you?

    After all, those are the same folks whose descendants are today’s Palestinians.

  112. Ben David predicts that their dependence on Israel’s welfare system will lead to a rapid decline is Israel’s economy. This is economically damaging enough and is made worse by the refusal of most rabbinical schools to incorporate standard Western subjects such as mathematics, science and English into their core curriculum.

    I will never understand, for the life of me, the penchant that many religions have for inhibiting self-reliance (personal and financial) and productive enterprise.

  113. Wally says:
    @J

    said:
    “Under all that noise there is country growing and strengthening very fast”

    Dream on.
    Without US taxpayers money “that shitty little country” wouldn’t last a month.

    The True Cost of Parasite Israel
    Forced US taxpayers money to Israel goes far beyond the official numbers
    .
    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-true-cost-of-israel/

    How Zionist Israel Is Robbing America Blind!:
    http://www.unz.com/gatzmon/how-zionist-israel-is-robbing-america-blind/

    • Replies: @anon
  114. @A123

    “Jewish Palestine” ???????? What a joke!
    LOL!!!!

    Do you know the other one, with the …Holocash?

    • Troll: A123
  115. Tom Welsh says:
    @Assad al-islam

    “Who can win against Yahweh?”

    Someone else’s god, maybe? Why should we assume that the god of the Jews is almighty – just because the Jews say so?

    Or possibly the laws of physics…

    • Replies: @Assad al-islam
  116. @Colin Wright

    Will I live to see Palestine redeemed?

    Based on careful and honest introspection — -is your interest in this subject actually driven more by affection for Palestinians than by hostility towards Jews?

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Colin Wright
  117. @geokat62

    Hey geokat!

    Thanks a lot, er, no, no, not U.R.’s “Lot,” for transcribing Brother Nathanael’s words into readable comment!

    I do not anticipate Gilad Atzmon as being a Real Jew News man,😏but I really wonder what he thinks of Brother Nathanael’s First Principle; namely to kick US Jews from out of “money creation,” and doing so will become the beginning of the end of Israel in Amerika.

    P.S.: Regular U.R. commenter, DESERT FOX, endorses the view that it’s way past time to “end the Fed,” and of course, such is the potential cure for Zionized Amerika.

  118. Bookish1 says:

    I get the feeling that Israel will be around for a while. Her tribal nationalism will keep her internally alive. The threat is external. Hamas+hezbollah+syria+Iran in an United military offensive would be a winner if it wasn’t for the fact that Israel has the means to wipe them off the map if it came to that. Muslims can lose 10 wars and come back for another one. Israel doesn’t have that priviledge. One loss it’s over.

    • Replies: @Anon
  119. Anon[358] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    The Ashkenazi came from Asia. They don’t follow the Old Testament. They follow the Talmud, which is Maciavellian to the core. Pure evil.

    Here we are getting into a subjective moral interpretation of the “good”. ie: is morality particular to one people’s well being (for example: Jews) or is it universal?

    I hold that it can and must be both (particular to every individual tribe’s well being as well as universal in that all tribe’s will be allowed to survive and not be hindered from reaching their potential within their borders) and that the West had figured out how to implement both when it invented the nation state.

    However, those with continuing ideas that morality is particular to one people have worked tirelessly and successfully to undermine the nation structure that seeks to balance national interests through borders. The goal is the usurpation of all resources for that tribe’s sole well being, traditionally including slave resources that are those others themselves. At the fatal expense of everyone else.

    What that means is that a Moses figure that seeks to destroy all others to expand the resources for one group would indeed be the embodiment of evil. Not only does he seek to destroy groups that may be arguably superior to his in many ways but who currently lack the political structure to defend themselves (ie: are too civilized and cooperative), his presence destroys the nation-state system by which all other groups could otherwise increasingly learn to cooperate while everyone survives.

    In this sense, Judaism is the drop of piss in the barrel of wine that ruins the rest of it for everyone. It is not the model framework as you imply. Internationalist Machiavellian behavior only becomes large-scale necessary in the presence of the imperialist Moses figure (and his equivalents).

    Protestants have long sought to crossover-identify themselves with the original Israeli / Jewish group of the Old Testament. That Christians largely did not do this for the first 1500 years should be a large red flag. The result of doing so is twofold:

    a. It allows the lethal Jewish group wider and deeper acceptance in society
    b. It keeps the strong theological root of internationalist imperialism alive beyond the Jewish group, which has inevitably rotted nationalism from within all borders.

    Matthew 26:52

    Then Jesus saith to him: Put up again thy sword into its place: for all that take the sword shall perish with the sword.

    Note that the nation state was begun immediately after the Catholic-led faction defeated the Protestant imperialist faction in the 30 Years War. Now the nation state is being destroyed, with atheism (a further move away from Christianity) being in-part used to facilitate that process. It would not be incorrect to see the modern process of nation-state destruction as a form of continuation of that war.

    If only the people of the USA had a Prince as evil, and as dedicated to the wellbeing of the American people, as Machiavelli was to Florence.

    What “people” of the USA are those? The Africans? The Italians? The Irish? The Jews? The Anglos? There are no “people of the USA”. We live in an undifferentiated internationalist stew that is only a nation in name. Their work is largely finished here. So much so that even where modern men may see an inland area as relatively untouched, a man of 100 years ago would know that the Irish invasion was about to irretrievably change it.

    The Jewish Talmud and Tanakh are not differentiated in their nature. Gordon is wrong in his assumption on that point. The former is simply a commentary and expansion on the lightly coded themes in the latter, but utterly parallel. Themes that I prior described (its a mythology of the present and future, not the past). The light coding of the text still works marvelously to have every manner of goyim ignore and mis-characterize the Tanakh that clearly describes their future genocide.

  120. Anon[358] • Disclaimer says:
    @A123

    Why do you continue to advocate for repudiation of binding international law (that predates U.N. faux-law)?

    One has to love when Jews pick and choose their law within the expanse of time, expecting that their interests are enough to make their silly arguments. “International Law” itself being an utterly ridiculous and non-enforceable concept. As any nationalist Jew should know.

    If Jews have the right to Israel and its desired territories on their terms, than Germans had the right to Germany on their terms. They did not, and so you do not. There is no further legitimate discussion in morality nor on any other grounds.

    The world sees this. That you do not is no one else’s problem and as such they don’t owe you a second of their time discussing it.

    • Agree: annamaria
  121. Anon[358] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bookish1

    “Her”

    What a fucking tool.

    “It” exists at the pleasure of the West’s greater alliance of nations that Jews openly state in their scriptures that they wish to destroy (destroy the nations themselves). The second that there is a tipping point of mass recognition of that fact then there will be much more than Islamic will to eradicate the parasitical military outpost full of inbred half-Neanderthal neurotics with a psychopathic religion from antiquity that you call “her”.

    • Replies: @Patrikios Stetsonis
  122. The people of “the Land of Canaan”

    The people of “the Land of Canaan” (ca. 1875) were 90% from Arabhebrew culture, 8% from Christian heritage and 2% from Rabbinical tradition

    The Askenazi people (yiddish people) came from Russia

    [MORE]

    (A) One history is the history of the “(fugitives [and for the palatial scribes]) outlaws bandits”: ‘the tribes of fugitives, freemen and bandits that not pay taxes‘, that is the history of ‘the Arabhebrew goatherds of the land of Canaan’ who rightly hated pigs, and they loved goats: the pig is the slavery of the valley under the power of the palaces, the goat is the freedom that leads to the great open space: the desert

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amarna_letters

    This is one history at the end of the Late Bronze Age, remember that “Moses” father-in-law is an Arab priest (Exodus 3,1) and Yahweh is a divinity that came from the south, and “Esau” is the first and older son of Isaac

    (B) Another history, very different history … is the history of an Aramaic ruling class (= “Jacob”) that came to the “land of Canaan” with money, books, pamphlets and Persian power

    this Aramaic ruling class was created in the forge of three empires, the Assyrian empire, the empire of the Chaldeans and the Persian empire

    DeuteroNomy 26,5: “my father was an Aramean”

    (C) A third history … is the history of a religion, Judaism, widespread in the ancient world, in Greek-Roman times, specifically spread like fire by gunpowder among women, and that continued to extend until the early middle ages when under Islamic and Christian pressure it closes on itself

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Middle_Ages

    (D) A four history … is the history of the Askenazi people, the yiddish people

    Four history, Four different stories, although of course one can find a Russian 60-70% European and 40-30% Turkish-Syrian-Persian who in his childish and religious fantasies believes descent from an Arabhebrew goatherd of “the Land of Canaan”

  123. @ChuckOrloski

    Then having very (unsafely) gone off the Gaderene cliff deep end, you opined, “Trump seems to understand that resistance to Shelly Adelson’s demands about foreign policy decisions regarding Israel is the best way to show patriotism to the USA.” 🙄

    Let me elaborate further on that sentence.

    Trump has acceded to 2 of the 4 demands of Republican Party donor and Jew billionaire Shelly Adelson in regards to Israel:

    1) Trump has killed the Iran nuclear deal and 2) Trump has moved the US embassy to Jerusalem.

    But,

    3) Trump has refused to invade Iran or start a war with Iran and 4) Trump has not dropped a nuclear bomb on Iran.

    Shelly Adelson wants the US military to invade Iran and Shelly Adelson wants the US military to drop a nuclear bomb on Iran.

    Trump knows that there is a difference between the American Empire and the United States of America. Trump pushes military Keynesianism for the jobs and the loot for the American people, but Trump doesn’t think that the American Empire must continually be at war to justify the war expenditures. Trump gave an interview where he spoke of the military-industrial complex and Trump is a baby boomer who remembers Ike and his warnings about the profiteers and scoundrels who would use the American Empire to profit off the USA.

    Trump made the wise decision to not go to war against Iran with that drone incident, and that is a good thing. Trump may have thought about oil at two hundred dollars a barrel or he might have thought it’s better to pop the Iranians surreptitiously rather than televised on CNN with air strikes and the like.

    I do think that Trump puts the interests of Israel ahead of the interests of the USA, but a lot of the ruling class slobs who run the American Empire don’t even think that the USA exists anymore. A lot of us voted for Trump to reclaim the sovereignty and independence of the USA from the American Empire.

    So I think Trump is in his own way being patriotic to a certain extent by giving Shelly Adelson some of what Adelson wanted but not all.

    Trump may also understand that German American women and other American women in the Great Lakes states don’t want their sons or husbands or uncles or fathers getting killed or horribly wounded in endless wars that only benefit Israel. The German Americans, bless them, have historically shown great reluctance to get caught up in all the endless war crud that the JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire cooks up.

    I won’t vote for Trump because of his backstab on immigration, but I think Trump knows that he is the government leader of a big monster and that big monster is the creature that encompasses both the American Empire and the United States of America.

    I was long winded, but there’s a point in there somewhere!

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @Wally
  124. @A123

    Hasbara troll:

    You’re at the Unz Report here — NOT Fox News or NPR.

    Your clumsy talking points don’t work here. Tell your superiors to give you a better script.

    BTW, your Terrorist Theocracy of Israel is our only enemy.

    • Troll: A123
    • Replies: @A123
    , @Sorrow Road
  125. bjondo says:
    @Richard B

    So what caused Antisemitism?

    Read #79

  126. Bookish1 [AKA "sharkey"] says:
    @Skeptikal

    Jews overrunning Germany will bring that great name(AH) back big time. If Jews had it so fucking bad in Germany in the past why in the hell would they want to go back there? Seems they had it too good and want those good times back again. And don’t give me that holocaust bullshit because a few good reasons why it didn’t happen will shudder the holycaust myth.

    https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t553062/

  127. My relationship with Israel has been great,” Trump said, listing some of his pro-Israel accomplishments. “Anything is possible,” he conceded, “but I don’t believe it.”

    Trump, Netanyahu say no spying:
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/pm-hints-gantz-campaign-planted-false-story-of-israel-spying-on-white-house/

    “Yesterday you heard the lies that Israel tried to spy on the White House, a complete lie,” Netanyahu said in a Hebrew-language video.
    He then quoted Mark Levin as saying on his show that “this is exactly like the tricks carried out by Joel Benenson. He was an adviser to Obama and now he is the adviser to [Blue and White leaders Benny] Gantz and [Yair] Lapid.”

    • Replies: @renfro
  128. A123 says:
    @Pat Kittle

    Pattie Kittie,

    Thank you for self identifying as a practitioner of Muslim lying, “Taqiyya” (1).

    Taqiyya liars are easily spotted when they use the term “Hasbara” in a desperate flail trying to distract from their own egregious and obvious deceptions. The other identifying action is use of the made up, non-existent word “Islamophobia”.

    You should immediately return to Iran for retraining as you have already locked in 100% mission failure here.

    PEACE 😇

    _____

    (1) http://www.freedompost.org/islam/deception/common-taqiyya-or-islamic-lies-and-deceptions-by-muslims.html

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Pat Kittle
  129. @Charles Pewitt

    Charles Pewitt, a noble American gentleman who wants to extend a measure of gratitude & respect for the Trump administration, commented: “… but I think Trump knows that he is the government leader of a big monster and that big monster is the creature that encompasses both the American Empire and the United States of America.”

    Hey Charles!

    Thanks for the nice response which perhaps I did not deserve.

    I think mostly all tyrants including well known totalitarians, past & present, know what both good & evil they do.

    For example & with focus upon rather recent abominations’s, I look back upon PreZidents G.H.W Bush’s “Highway of Death” victory, Clinton’s indulging the 78-Day “humanitarian” bombing of Yugolavia, and the “Shrub’s” April 2003 unnecessary & immoral “Shock & Awe” liberation of Iraq. Of course, we can continue, Charles, to date.

    My point is that tRump definitely ain’t no Shabbos goy dummy. Indeed, he signed up & was selected to become Amerika’s Chosen & monstrous Commander in Chief. In order to sleep what ordinary ‘guvmint officials & citizen commoners consider “well,” tRump must truly accentuate the awful things he does for Israel as stuff that’s “good for America.”😟

    Haha, above, you might recall how the Likud-tyrant, Netanyahu, proclaimed, “9/11 was good for Israel.”😈 (Zigh) There is a scary “point” embedded in there, Charles. My thanks & leveraged respect.

    • Replies: @Wally
  130. @Anon

    Saint Hitler try to open the peoples eyes.

    However they did not want to listen to him.
    Now they can enjoy slavery by the jew

  131. Wally says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    Trump certainly deserves criticism for his ME policies.

    However, it’s pure folly to think that the alternatives to Trump would be any better, in fact I suggest that most would be worse.

    It’s always interesting to see those here who are so quick to bash Trump never tell us which of the alternative candidates they are willing to endorse and why.

    Thanks.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @A123
  132. “The End of Israel”…

    Do we have a date yet! I need to get my celebration plans in order… 🙂

    • Replies: @Bookish1
    , @nsa
  133. Wally says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    True enough, Trump’s policies in the ME are bad. Yawn.

    However, we note that Commie hick ChuckOrloski never tells us which of the current candidates he supports and how they would be any different, if not worse than Trump.

  134. anonymous[406] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean McBride

    Can it simply be an affection for Right, and against Wrong?

    • Replies: @Sean McBride
  135. renfro says:
    @Gilad Atzmon

    ”……..peculiarly, Israel was born to fix the problem ”’

    Herzl in Der Judenstaat (The Jewish State)

    “The Jewish question exists wherever Jews live in perceptible numbers. Where it does not exist, it is carried by Jews in the course of their migrations. We naturally move to those places where we are not persecuted, and there our presence produces persecution. This is the case in every country, and will remain so, even in those highly civilized — for instance, France — until the Jewish question finds a solution on a political basis. The unfortunate Jews are now carrying the seeds of anti-Semitism into England; they have already introduced it into America. ”

    The problem of anti Semitism can’t be fixed. Herzl said the ‘separation’ of Jews and Gentiles into Jews having their own state would cure it.
    But the problem is there has been no real ‘separation’. Jews continue to live in Gentile nations. They continue to create anti Semitism because of their…..”Jewishness’/Tribalism’ .

    So unless all the Jews or 90% of them move to Israel or some other strictly Jewish enclave there will always be anti Semitism.

    • Agree: geokat62
  136. Anon[409] • Disclaimer says:
    @A123

    Thank you for self identifying as a practitioner of Muslim lying, “Taqiyya” (1).

    Note the Jew referencing his Islamic subcult as if Judaism and Islam are very different.

    Note this Jew’s continual reliance on an Islamic edict to lie to non-Mulsims that Judaism shares, because they are from the same source and of the same substance. And because this particular Jew is not bright and therefore relies on this rhetorical crutch when he has run out of anything compelling to say or cannot otherwise rebut his debate partners.

    Taqiyya liars are easily spotted when they use the term “Hasbara”

    Note the Jew trying to distract from his people’s necessary propaganda arm that has a horrible reputation in the West.

    The other identifying action is use of the made up, non-existent word “Islamophobia”.

    “Islamophobia” sound exactly similar to “anti-Semitism”. Both from the same sources, serving the same purpose, and having equivalent legitimacy: none.

    You should immediately return to Iran for retraining as you have already locked in 100% mission failure here.

    Iran? Why not Saudi Arabia, Jew?

    As if a Jew, and especially this sorry excuse for an intellectual Jew, has earned any platform to declare who has failed or succeeded here. Please. You are 100% a joke here at or below the level of all Muslims. Continue to be deluded about that fact to the end of everyone else’s comedic relief.

  137. renfro says:
    @Mark James

    US Intel agencies: We found Israeli listening devices.

    Trump: No you didn’t.

    US Intel agencies: They’re all over DC, Mr. President.

    Trump: No they’re not.

    US Intel agencies: Here’s one we found by the White House.

    Trump: FAKE NEWS. YOU ARE SO FIRED.

  138. @Richard B

    Anti-Semitism caused Zionism. Zionism caused anti-semitism.

    It’s that timeless question again: What came first, the chicken or the egg?

  139. renfro says:
    @Colin Wright

    I use to believe that too……now I’m not so sure.

  140. anonymous[406] • Disclaimer says:
    @Gilad Atzmon

    You are right, the real problem the world has been facing for centuries is “white exceptionalism/supremacy.” WhiteRace(Self)-worshippers will pay for it dearly.

    • LOL: Richard B
    • Replies: @Bookish1
  141. @A123

    SOAPY the LAMPSHADE:

    We are amused at your clumsy attempt to conflate the Hebrew term Israel uses for its Internet trolls (“hasbara”) with Islam:

    Taqiyya liars are easily spotted when they use the term “Hasbara”

    Even more amusing when we know Israel actually funds scholarships (!) for its hasbara trolls:

    — ( https://duckduckgo.com/?q=hasbara+scholarship&atb=v183-7__&ia=web )

    So tell us, SOAPY, did you qualify for one of those (US taxpayer-funded) Israeli hasbara scholarships?

    🙂

    • Replies: @A123
  142. @Frankie P

    Actually, it were the Proto-Zionists who had the ideals that you promote. However, they were a minority and were quickly defanged by the Jabotinsky gang at the turn of the 20th Century…

  143. anonymous[406] • Disclaimer says:
    @Priss Factor

    Except in those other nations, the 80% truly do not have anywhere to go.

    But, many of those 40% judensnakes do have their nations-of-origin to slither back to. If those who wish to leave happen to be the doctors, engineers, scientists, … what do you think will happen to the cursed entity? Do those haredim mofers even know how to use keyboards?

    • Replies: @Pheasant
  144. @Gilad Atzmon

    It is actually obvious that Anti-Semitism was created, and is created now, by Zionists, and only by Zionists as a tool of psychological control of both Jews and non-Jews. When it is quiet, the Trolls come out as provocateurs to keep the flame going. You can see them and study their methods here. It is they who use inflammatory words, and call Jesus a Jew, with contempt. It is a tool like the Holocaust. Marr, who coined the word Anti-Semitism, was himself a Jew and a journalist hired to do the work, as was Herzl. They were both, like the MSM, hired shills. Herzl was disposed of after he did the job he was hired to do, as was Emile Zola. The Dreyfus Affair was a phony psy-op just like 9/11. Phony but effective for its time. The method has a long history. The blueprint goes back to Ezra’s Moses and Pharaoh.

  145. Dear Gilad,

    What you are describing about Israel sounds like every other country or place in the world. The left right. Secular vs. religions. Nationalism vs. Globalism.
    All the fights and problems going on world wide. Why do you insist it is so different?
    on singling out one country for convince and problems based solely on their religion. Secular countries are having the same issues.

    The Palestinians are a resistance movement based on Muslim hegemony and getting rid of the Jews, not in managing themselves or governing. Their raison d’être is Jews not in governing themselves.

    In the US we are worried about the Hispanics taking over like the ultra Orthodox in Israel, and white people will be the minority.
    Same problems different country.

    • Replies: @Pat Kittle
  146. @Wally

    (zzZigh) Again, Wally said: “It’s always interesting to see those here who are so quick to bash Trump never tell us which of the alternative candidates they are willing to endorse and why.”

    Thanks.

    Dear Wally,

    You are an asshole.

    The “which of alternative candidates” are always vetted and then approved by Zionist DNC and RNC.

    A reasonable question. Among the Jewish 2020 selected Shabbos goy choices at hand, please tell me, (zzZigh) who the fuck would you endorse? I know, I know, Holo Wally, it’s the “bad ME policy” Chosen One, 2020. Haha, (argh), Netanyahu owns you, and btw, 🖕!

    • Replies: @Wally
  147. @Colin Wright

    You would have figured something or another group to complain about. That is you MO. Most Jew hatred is an inability to solve the worlds dilemmas with out a scapegoat.

    • Replies: @Al Liguori
  148. @Colin Wright

    You would have figured something or another group to complain about. That is you MO. Most Jew hatred is an inability to solve the worlds dilemmas with out a scapegoat.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  149. The Great God Odin has a wicked sense of humor. The rate of population growth of Ashkenazi Jews was 3,000 times greater than that of their European host population, and such a great differential could only have been attained by massive economic exploitation of the host population. Now the Ashkenazi are the host population which is being economically exploited by an even more selfish and reproductively successful set of Jewish supremacists, the ultra-orthodox sects. How funny.

  150. @Anon

    Basically, Jews smart, Goyim dumb.

  151. anonymous[406] • Disclaimer says:
    @Robert Dolan

    Acceptance of a man-being as “god”? Lol! No!

    That sounds similar to what a pagan hindoo would say, with all their deceitful spiritual nonsense. You know, like, the “human body is the temple of God”… which should sound familiar to you, because that is exactly what your kind spews too. Point being, you are all the same. Pagan Godless.

    There will be no “saving” of pagan “in-his-image” mangods-worshippers.

  152. A123 says:
    @Pat Kittle

    Pattie,

    We are sorry that you didn’t get your preferred posting as a Zyklon B specialist or gas chamber operator. But that is no excuse for your ongoing Taqiyya lies and deception. Especially, when you are so bad at it.

    Keep working on your skills though. Based on your current performance, with a few years of extensive practice you may have a slim shot of successfully lying to inanimate objects and severe brain damage victims. Perhaps, if you are really lucky, the singing potatoes will stop laughing at you every time you open your mouth.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Pat Kittle
    , @Truth3
  153. @renfro

    JEW QUESTION EXPLAINED:

    Jews form a nation within a nation everywhere they reside. Can Jews ever be considered to be part of the larger nation in which they reside when they are genetically and culturally predisposed to put the interests of the Jew Nation over and above the interests of the larger nations in which they reside?

    • Replies: @renfro
  154. Skeptikal says:
    @Gilad Atzmon

    “As you may know Zionism was born as a reaction to antisemitsm”

    And what was it you said caused “antisemitism”? Can it hvae been Jews’ refusal to integrate with the larger community? To remain outside, but have all the privileges of membership? having come from afar? Not that unlike the Roma. I am sure that anti-Roma sentiment was just as strong as anti-Jew sentiment, in Germany, and in Eastern Europe. Who even cares/cared about what happened to the Roma-Sinti? Not the Jews. This whole concept of antisemitism
    has become a rhetorical tool. Don’t even use the word.

  155. A123 says:
    @Wally

    Wally,

    Don’t give up. Keep pointing out that the crazies like Charles and Chuckie wanted Hillary to win the last election.

    Apparently they are NeoConDemocrats who wanted Hillary to put U.S. boots on the ground in Lybia & Iran & Yemen & Oman & probably Pakistan. More troops for Afghanistan too, of course.

    Honestly, it’s not a bad strategy on their part. Dying for American Values is one thing. Dying because the Cackler-in-Chief is so deranged she accidentally starts a 7-front war is much less appealing. Voluntary enlistment would go to zero and early retirements would soar. H. Cackles Clinton would wind up having to reinstate the Draft.

    PEACE 😇

  156. @Fran Taubman

    Dear SOAPY the LAMPSHADE:

    Nice try, shystress, but the Israel Empire is never satisfied with what it already has.

    We know far too much about (((you))) here at the Unz Report, (((you))) and your (((false flag war crimes))) and your (((Kalergi agenda))).

  157. Skeptikal says:
    @mark green

    “As far as I know, they have expressed no intention of leaving. ”

    where would they go?
    Many americans are perfectly well aware of the genocide and theft and piracy that underlie our reublic. But they were born here and they live here. Where are they supposed to go? The Jews can go “back” to Israel, of course, but that is another colonial crime.
    And what about the others? The countries their forebears came from don’t want them. You can’t just pick up and leave. Oh, well, I guess that is what the Jews historically have been very, very good at. Picking up and leaving for another country when economic pickings start to wane where they are already. E.g., the Baghdadi Jews in India, who left Baghdad for India to become controllers of the opium trade in the East India Company era, then relocated themselves and their community to Britain when the business in India dried up. E.g., Sassoon and other prominent (now) British Jewish families. I guess always pleading persecution. And bringing valuable financial and business skills. j

    Nowadays, though, it isn’t that easy to pick up and leave a place where one was born. Except now quite a few Israelis are heading back to Germany.

  158. Z-man says:
    @JasonT

    Yes. The way the two nuclear super powers cow tow to the Iz’raelis is telling. America and Russia both bend over backwards for thaty filthy little spec of a state. The most artificial of nation states, that is.

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
  159. geokat62 says:
    @renfro

    So unless all the Jews or 90% of them move to Israel or some other strictly Jewish enclave there will always be anti Semitism.

    This has always been the case until The Lobby has devised their diabolical scheme to blend every one, but themselves, into Heinz 57. That’s why they have been promoting the double whammy of mass immigration and mass miscegenation. It is their latest gamble to defeat, once and for all, the scourge of virulent antisemitism. This time around, they have gone for the jugular. If they succeed, Western civilization is doomed. If they fail, the backlash will be unprecedented. So much hangs in the balance!

    • Agree: ChuckOrloski, Pat Kittle
  160. @anonymous

    What other oppressed peoples around the world, besides Palestinians, merit close attention and passionate emotional commitment?

  161. @Tom Welsh

    Someone else’s god, maybe? Why should we assume that the god of the Jews is almighty – just because the Jews say so?

    Because they are The Chosen Ones and it says so in the Bible. However,

    1. Where was Yahweh born?
    2. Who are its father and mother (BTW, Yahweh is a feminine noun, just like Eloh is a feminine noun too)?
    3. Did her parents name her Yahweh?
    4. Did she name herself Yahweh?
    5. What other names she contemplated before deciding on Yahweh?
    6. Did she call a meeting of elders to discuss her name and/or names.
    7. On and on, the questions are endless.

  162. @Sean McBride

    Uh, oppressed Scrantonians, Sean McBride.

    • Agree: Robjil
  163. Bookish1 [AKA "sharkey"] says:
    @Steve Naidamast

    so you want all jews in the west instead of the middle-east is that it? Haven’t you learned anything by now. the Muslims want the Jews in the west and the awakened Westerners want Jews in the middle east. Anyway the whole problem in the middle east is between semites(mainly) so let the semites deal with the problem.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  164. Bookish1 [AKA "sharkey"] says:
    @renfro

    we haven’t made it rough enough on them so they still feel too comfortable in western countries.

  165. Bookish1 [AKA "sharkey"] says:
    @anonymous

    bullshit! whites are exceptional and racially superior to other races. If you would suddenly be deprived of the whites gave to civilization you would be living in a mud hut in a jungle somewhere. That can be proven if you look at all the inventions that created the modern world who made those inventions.

    • Replies: @Richard B
  166. renfro says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    Jews form a nation within a nation everywhere they reside. Can Jews ever be considered to be part of the larger nation in which they reside when they are genetically and culturally predisposed to put the interests of the Jew Nation over and above the interests of the larger nations in which they reside?

    Some have. Amb John Gunther Dean, a German Jew who was Amb to Lebanon, who the Israelis tried to assassinate would be an example. But he was raised from age 7 by his immigrant parents in the almost Jewless mid west US far from other Jewish immigrants who just re formed their ghettos/tribe in big cities once in the US.
    I dont think ‘genetics’ plays a part but ‘culture’ does…..”Cult/ure….is their culture.
    So in general I don’t believe most Jews would break from their tribalism.
    No matter what nation they live in they would always be agitating for the benefit of Jews regardless of the harm to other citizens or the nation.
    We tend to concentrate on what the Jewish lobbies do for Israel but there are a lot of special programs and benefits Jewish citizens and their groups get in the US that non Jewish citizens dont.

    Speaking of which. In my animal rescue group in cooperation with the Humane Society, Pals for Paws and etc. I come cross many elderly people, a lot of widows who want to keep their pets or have a pet for company but cant afford the cost of feeding and vet care. We have a program to help then keep or adopt a pet but still its a ridiculous situation in our ‘richest country in the world’ that older people living on SS and some savings. One lady I regularly take dog food and meds to would qualify for some help on her very expensive drugs except for the fact she has some savings for her final expenses set aside and that disqualifies her.
    So I was beyond pissed off when I read recently that congress passed a bill for Jewish ‘survivors’ and Jewish Russian immigrants that excludes them from requirement that a person cant have but so much in savings to get help on any gov programs like drug price help. It also excluded them from taxation on all extra income….interest income, financial gifts, reparations, etc..

    Then I saw this week that the ”American Historic Preservation Abroad’ was still funded this year with taxpayer money. It’s name is misleading (as usual) as it is a agency for keeping up Jewish graves, memorials and whatever in Europe.

    If only Americans knew how screwed they are.

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
  167. renfro says:
    @Sean McBride

    What other oppressed peoples around the world, besides Palestinians, merit close attention and passionate emotional commitment?

    There are many oppressed people and refugees as we speak. The Palestines are the longest suffering and our responsibility since we enable their Israel oppressor.

    • Agree: Assad al-islam
  168. @A123

    The U.N. intentionally violated international law when it stole Jewish Palestinian land guaranteed in the 20’s.

    The U.N., being founded in 1945, cannot be held responsible for what happened in 20-ies. That’s the whole idea of limited liability companies. /s

    • Replies: @Alden
  169. @Gilad Atzmon

    What a wonderfully edgy comment – is Israel the ‘Promised Land’ or a future prison to be…

  170. @A123

    Dear SOAPY the LAMPSHADE:

    Jews are supposed to be witty.

    Some are.

    But much of what passes for wit is nothing more than Holocau$t self-pity.

    It really doesn’t become you, SOAPY.

    • Replies: @A123
  171. Milton says:

    The Zionists who currently rule Israel and the West (via Freemasonry) do not enjoy God’s protection or blessing, because they disobey His Law and Covenant. They are not entitled to the Promised Land, because they do not believe in the Promisor. They are the heirs of the proto-Zionists: Simon bar Giora, John of Giscala and Eleazar ben Simon; they will bring the modern state of Israel to ruin just as their forefathers brought the Second Temple to ruin. They are currently on top of the world, but Pride goeth before a Fall and they are being primed to fall very far indeed. God isn’t mocked forever and God is much more patient than this brood of vipers.

  172. The End of Israel

    Sorry, no such luck.

    • Agree: Alden
  173. Truth3 says:
    @Anon

    Don’t be such a JooDork, Anon241.

  174. Truth3 says:
    @A123

    Nothing about you suggest PEACE.

    So GFOADAH.

  175. Truth3 says:

    Jews are infiltrating leeches, maggots, feeding on the national bodies they occupy.

    Jews are at war with all mankind, because that is they way they want it.

    Their disgusting habits repel decent human beings, so how in the world is it that their lying, stealing, murdering selves are somehow always just the innocent victims?

    Lies. Sophistry. Propaganda. Misdirection. False Flags. Theft. Murder.

    Satan’s people, to the last one.

    • Replies: @Pat Kittle
  176. Altai says:
    @Gilad Atzmon

    People had lots of sympathy for Jews when they suffering. The weird idea at the centre of America’s (And maybe Germany’s) moral universe is for this sympathy to extend to the Jewish people always and forever, no matter what they do and for this to transfer to Israel no matter how immoral it’s actions become. The whole ‘Women, children and the Jews’ thing. We’ve literally normalised a situation where Israel has to effectively ‘cull’ or wreck all the countries around it (Lebanon has been too stable and is next) every so often lest they become a ‘threat’, holding not just the Palestinians but most of the region hostage. It’s insane.

    The total end of the viability of the 2 state solution farce will hopefully push European diplomats to stop putting their heads in the sand but it will take time.

    It’s actually very hard to make people hate another person because of their ethnicity alone. Ethnicities come into conflicts and subsequently do people treat people of a given ethnicity as an outgroup competitor or ‘enemy’.

    • Replies: @Wally
  177. Art says:

    The End of Israel.

    There is no question but that the inferior, self-absorbed Jew character will cause Israel to implode one day. It is what always happens to them. Today, Jew power, resides in America.

    The biggest question is what is going to happen to the Jews in America? What is their fate?

    Will they be able to maintain control of America until there is a catastrophic failure?

    Or will a truth like 9/11, come out and destroy their hegemony.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @anon
    , @Skeptikal
  178. A123 says:
    @Pat Kittle

    Dear Lying Kittie,

    As you are Taqiyya Troll you request wit? If you insist:

    … Patsy’s Self Pity
    Like Smelly Kittie Litter
    … Scraped Off Shoe

    It’s not proper hiaku, but you are unworthy of the effort to produce anything better.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
  179. nsa says:
    @Steve Naidamast

    “The end of IzzieVille……need to get my celebration plans in order….”
    Careful what you wish for. You want another 5 million yid grifters over here fleecing the peasants, inciting the visible minorities, and subverting the government to their own selfish ends?

    • Agree: Bookish1
  180. renfro says:

    Here is Todays Outrage for you. US Treasury pays Jewish victim family 22 million plus interest –$26 million. What a Great country the US is !…..for Jews…..for Americans?….not so much.

    The Never Ending Jewish Heist of the Universe. Iran’s properties in Canada have now been sold and proceeds handed to terror victims of Hamas and Hezbollah
    BUT, something happened before that …the family of a jewish girl killed in Israel was awarded 22 million by a court in 1998 but couldnt collect from Iran…..So the US Treasury paid them the 22 million plus interest –$26 million.

    https://jewishweek.timesofisrael.com/u-s-victims-of-hamas-terror-quietly-winning-money-from-iran/
    ”Perhaps the most well-known case involving the awarding of damages from a terrorist attack in Israel involved Stephen Flatow, whose daughter Alisa was killed in a 1995 bus bombing in the Gaza Strip. He was the first to convince an American court that Iran and several of its officials should be held financially accountable for funding Islamic Jihad, which carried out the attack that killed his daughter. In 1998 a court awarded him $22.5 million in compensatory damages. But he was unable to collect the judgment, and in 2000 Congress passed a law making it possible for victims of terrorist acts to recover funds from the U.S. to satisfy outstanding judgments. Flatow applied and on Nov. 28, 2000, the U.S. Treasury gave him more than $26 million, which included interest on the court’s award.
    A spokesperson for the Treasury Department said last week that the U.S. government seized from Iranian assets here the exact amount it paid Flatow, and that the law requires the president to pursue that claim “as appropriate, including in any negotiations regarding normalization of relations with Iran.
    After Flatow received the money, Congress changed the law so that after January 2008 any new claim against a foreign state designated as a state sponsor of terrorism could be litigated and collected against the state itself.”

    • Replies: @Bookish1
  181. Wally says:
    @Altai

    said:
    “People had lots of sympathy for Jews when they suffering.”

    – They certainly have their hooks in you.
    – You really mean their invented, fake “suffering”.
    – Recall that Jews have been claiming ‘6,000,000 dead Jews’ since at least 1823,

    Myth and the Russian Pogroms: http://www.unz.com/article/myth-and-the-russian-pogroms/
    “The Holocaust” Is a Myth That Conceals Our Shame: http://www.unz.com/kbarrett/the-holocaust-is-a-myth-that-conceals-our-shame/
    American Pravda: Holocaust Denial, by Ron Unz: http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-holocaust-denial/
    Teaching Holocaust, Don’t know much about history
    by Philip Girald: http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/teaching-holocaust/

    • Agree: Miggle
  182. mcohen says:

    Atzmon.

    I read your article while having a falafel.Great restaurant that sells Israeli street food.

    The end of israel or the end of the ususl suspects.

    Amos ! go back to israel lol

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Skeptikal
  183. Incitatus says:
    @geokat62

    “Introducing ‘Time to end the Jewish Fed’…Great video, Chuck!”

    Tag team would-be Teutons? Do you ‘bros’ wear masks, capes, and costumes?

    Does it occur to you that you’re played by Milton Kapner, Jew-pseudo-Christian? Does he keep lunch under that hat? “Brother Nathanael Foundation”?

    Has he ever held a job, earned a living? He’s certainly sitting pretty with his own tax-exempt 501c3 ($178,402 income), legitimized by IRS “Religion-Related/Spiritual Development/Religious Organization” ‘qualifications’. Don’t see much Christianity in his epistles. Why are US taxpayers subsidizing him?

    Consider “brother” Milton Kapner’s:

    “Everybody, we’ve got to start with monetary reform. Kick the Jews out of money creation… They steal money into existence…And then we have to do something about our ruined culture…Any Jew who wants to remain? Strip them of their citizenship, and they are not allowed to be involved in politics.
    We have to do what the Byzantine Empire did. They cannot be in finance. They cannot be in civil service. And they cannot be in education.
    This country can be fixed.”

    Straight out of the NSDAP 1919/1933-39 Playbook. Kapner’s “Byzantine Empire” reference appears a fig leaf geo (he’is playing you).

    American taxpayers pay for this manure?

    ‘Brother’ Kapner:

    “This country can be fixed.”

    Who’s country? Milton Kapner /Brother Nathanial’s country of parasitic 501c3s? Where ideologues [Mossad/CIA?] cherry-pick Nazi talking points to please on-line nut cases and attract tax-exempt contributions?

    Were Kapners at Lexington/Concord 1775, Philadelphia 1776, Saratoga 1777, Yorktown 1781? Mexican War, Civil War, WW1, WW2?

    Doubt it.

    What crap! You tag-team ‘bros’ swim this crap as if it was mother’s milk. Amazing!

    “Carriers have to be removed”?

    So says Milton Kapner aka Jew/Christian (love one another) ‘Brother Nathanial’? He advises “[Jewish carrier] removal”. What does that mean? Be specific.

    American taxpayers pay for this 501c3 manure?

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @ChuckOrloski
  184. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Fran Taubman

    As usual, Chabad Fran, you have inverted the truth. You pretend that “Kill even the best of the Gentiles” PERPETRATORS are “scapegoats.” Jewish belief and behavior cause “antisemitism.” Own it.

    http://judaism.is/perpetrators.html

  185. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Colin Wright

    We Catholics have a different perspective. We have noticed for millennia.

    • Replies: @Bookish1
    , @Parisian Guy
  186. renfro says:

    How the Jews at US Treasury are using the old Jewish “lawfare” to get Iran
    unbelievably our Jew Treasury is seizing all Iran assets for e.v.e.r.y s.i.n.g.l.e terrorist attack in the world including ….the 911 bombing of the WTC!
    This is reaaly cute…get a corruptible judge…..slam Iran and Hezabollah…..and let Saudi off the hook for 911. I guess thats the least the Jews can do for their new Saudi friends since they were the instruments of 911 themselves.

    Iran Still Owes $53 Billion in Unpaid U.S. Court Judgments to American Victims of Iranian Terrorism
    https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2016/05/06/iran-still-owes-53-billion-in-unpaid-u-s-court-judgments-to-american-victims-of-iranian-terrorism/

    The September 11, 2001 attacks that killed some 3,000 people. In December 2011, a U.S. District Court found the Iranian government and Khamenei himself among those responsible.[15] The court’s lengthy opinion included extensive evidence that the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps had provided “funding and/or training for terrorism operations targeting American citizens, including support for Hizballah and al Qaeda” and evidence that IRGC activities were controlled by Khamenei. The opinion also quoted from the 9/11 Commission report that “Iran furnished material and direct support” for travel for at least eight of the hijackers. The Iranian government, Khamenei, and the other defendants have thus far been ordered to pay over $16 billion in compensatory and punitive damages to the victims.

    And guess what….the Judge issuing the order was none other than Judge Daniels
    ”On March 9, 2016, Daniels issued a Default judgment” against “Iran” ordering it to pay $7.5 billion in damages to families of victims who died in the “September 11 attacks” The plaintiffs in the case argued that Iran “provided material support” and training to”Al Qaeda” members, including 9/11 hijackers, through “Hezbollah”.

    Who, guess what again……was also the Judge a year earlier that let Saudi Arabia off the hook for 911.
    ”Earlier in 2015, Daniels had ruled that Saudi Arabia” had Sovereign_immunity”> and dismissed all charges against the kingdom for its alleged role in the attacks”

    • Agree: ChuckOrloski
  187. Bookish1 says:
    @Al Liguori

    You have noticed for millennia but what have you done about it. Judge by action not by words.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
    , @Al Liguori
  188. Bookish1 says:
    @renfro

    Well I have to ask you who wouldn’t go after those millions if they thought they could get it? Our hatred should be directed against those who enable the Jews to get away with it.

  189. geokat62 says:
    @Incitatus

    American taxpayers pay for this 501c3 manure?

    Incy, Incy, Incy, there you go again with your rant against parasitic 501c3s!

    To be taken seriously, you need to acknowledge the West is in crisis and who is primarily responsible for this crisis.

    Rather than acknowledging the power of The Lobby, you seek to minimize it’s nefarious role. This undermines your credibility.

    Why not come out and admit what is plainly obvious – i.e., The Lobby is doing irreparable damage to Western societies pushing their multi-culti agenda.

    If you’re not prepared to acknowledge these simple truths and how to address them, people will rightfully suspect you have a hidden agenda.

    So, let’s try this again. A few basic questions the responses to which will help illuminate how genuine you are:

    1. What do you think about the Barbara Lerner Spectre video? Was she being truthful?
    2. Do you believe that nationalism was the root cause of the Shoah? Does this justify putting an end to nationalism?
    3. Are you a Zionist or do you support Zionism?
    4. Do you support the efforts of The Lobby to put and end to nationalism in the West by promoting mass immigration and mass miscegenation?
    5. What do you think of the hundreds of organizations that make up The Lobby? I’m referring to the ADL, SPLC, World Jewish Congress, AIPAC, etc., etc., etc., etc., etc. Do you think their agendas are harmful or beneficial to Western societies?
    6. Why do you think there has been a resurgence of antisemitism in Western societies, of late?
    6. What are some of your recommendations for addressing the serious issue of the JQ?

  190. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Gilad Atzmon

    Zionism was born as a reaction to antisemitsm

    Indefensibly ahistorical. Erroneous. The synagogue of Satan instigated and abetted all the major heresies, including Protestantism and Islam. Protestants returned the “favor” by instigating and abetting Zionism. In the 16th century, after Henry VIII’s break from the Church a lapsed Anglican clergyman Francis Kett encouraged his followers to go to Palestine because Jesus was “gathering his people in Jerusalem in his owne person.” Kett’s rabid anti-Catholicism remains one of the most enduring tenets of “Christian” Zionism. Protestant “Good Queen Bess” Elizabeth I eventually burned Kett at the stake, but English Puritans continued to foster bizarre beliefs about the lost tribes of Israel, an obsession that they imported to the Netherlands and then to America. John Winthrop of the Massachusetts Bay Colony, then John Mather, his son Increase Mather, and grandson Cotton Mather proselytized a proto-Zionism. Cotton Mather promoted the 17th century “messiah” Zabbatai Zevi until Zevi apostatized into, of all things, Islam of the Ottoman Empire. (see Dönmeh) Shocked into recognizing his own gross errors, Cotton Mather recanted his Judaic obsessions shortly before his death, but others continued to run with the same exegetical errors.

    The world recognized the humiliating failure of the proto-Zionist “messiah,” yet shameless Protestants still proselytized proto-Zionist rhetoric: British travel entrepreneur Thomas Cook, Jonathan Edwards, George Whitfield, and others. In 1793 a former British Royal Navy officer, Richard Brothers, proclaimed himself “Prince of the Hebrews.” In 1814, a 64-year-old “prophetess” Joanna Southcott announced that she was the woman of Apocalypse chapter 12 and that she was pregnant with the new “messiah.” She died without child a few weeks after the anticipated birth. One of Queen Victoria’s Prime Ministers, Lord Palmerston, became the first significant crusader for returning “Jews” to Palestine. In his 1853 letter to then-Prime Minister Aberdeen Shaftesbury, Palmerston wrote one of the most enduring deceits of Zionism. Against overwhelming evidence to the contrary, Palmerston penned that Greater Syria was “a country without a nation” in need of a “nation without a country.” The claim of “British Israel” fanned the flames of global British Imperialism by the “chosen” and led to the infamous Balfour Declaration.

    In America, the Puritans were followed by a succession of Zionists, most known among them John Nelson Darby of “dispensationalism” and its Zionism, “rapture,” and other heresies. What irony that Jewish-spawned Protestantism itself spawned Zionism long before any “Jews” adopted the heresy. Eventually, “Jews” like Theodor Herzl and Samuel Untermeyer adopted Zionism and they, in turn, adopted and financed the ex-convict Cyrus Scofield who wrote his Scofield Reference Bible, a farce that has seduced a century of evangelicals and other maniacal “Christian” Zionists.

    • Replies: @utu
  191. @Bookish1

    LOL Bookish, you alive, living under a rock? They tried and tried. No can do. Why don’t you get some buds together and try it.
    Warning.
    We have guns and have been there before.
    YOU got action?

  192. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Bookish1

    The Church has been the major obstacle, often the only obstacle, to the Synagogue of Satan for 2,000 years. While there have been Judaizing Popes, until Vatican 2, the Church successfully contained Judaism. An example: It wasn’t Protestants who censored Hollywood, but the Catholic Legion of Decency—until the Vatican 2 infiltration and collapse.

    Why else have Satan’s Chosen fought so hard for two millennia to finally gain an upper-hand over the Church with (((their))) subversions of Catholic morals and dogma in the post-Vatican 2 “Novus Ordo” (New Order)?

    The Church was and still is targeted precisely because the Church is the most successful earthly opposition to God’s most organized earthly opposition, the Synagogue of Satan.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  193. @Incitatus

    “Ahhhh, Incitatus,” as Maven Sam Shama routinely said! Haha.

    A question to add to geokat’s request list.

    What do you think about Art’s fascinating comment, # 181?

    Otherwise, I figured you’ve retreated from your obsessive crap, which is still permitted by Supremacist Jews,🤗 the “tax-exempt 501c3 ($178,402 income), legitimized by IRS “Religion-Related/Spiritual Development/Religious…,” blah, blah, blah.

  194. utu says:
    @Al Liguori

    Don’t forget Napoleon:

    General Headquarters, Jerusalem 1st Floreal, April 20th, 1799,
    in the year of 7 of the French Republic

    BUONAPARTE, COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF OF THE ARMIES OF THE FRENCH REPUBLIC
    IN AFRICA AND ASIA, TO THE RIGHTFUL HEIRS OF PALESTINE.
    http://jewishliberation.blogspot.com/2015/08/napoleon-bonapartes-letter-to-jews-in.html

  195. Anonymous[411] • Disclaimer says:

    Let Israel take care of itself.

    Mainstream American media who hide the truth about the Jewish lobby are doing America no favors.

    Then again, it does raise the question as to how American the media, left and right, truly are.

    If it came down to a choice, many in the mainstream would choose Israel over America.
    Many of those people are not even Jewish. That’s how bad it has become.

    Maybe media should be asked this question: Which country do you put 1st, America or Israel?

    Let’s start asking that question.

  196. Skeptikal says:
    @Bookish1

    The Jews should go back to Russia.

  197. @Al Liguori

    Al when you contribute nothing but psycho absolutism that cannot be refuted, because you and a your catholic nut jobs say so, there is no argument because you revert to we lie because you say so. There is no truth because you say it is the truth. No science. The sky is black because I say it is and you are a liar if you say otherwise. A true racist. So was the Synagogue of Satin behind Anne Boleyn ? Or was Anne Boleyn the herself the Synagogue of Satin. It is so confusing when someone writes their own irrefutable theories.
    How do you reconcile this. Was Martin Luther the part of the S of S?

    [MORE]

    When Martin Luther issued grievances about the Catholic Church in 1521, King Henry VIII took it upon himself to personally repudiate the arguments of the Protestant Reformation leader. The pope rewarded Henry with the lofty title of Fidei Defensor, or Defender of the Faith.

    Barely a decade later, the very same Henry VIII would break decisively with the Catholic Church, accept the role of Supreme Head of the Church of England and dissolve the nation’s monasteries, absorbing and redistributing their massive property as he saw fit.

    So what changed? How did the former “Defender of the Faith” end up ushering in the English Reformation?

    and what about this? Was Marin Luther the S of S? How did the Jews cause this?

    Born in Eisleben, Germany, in 1483, Martin Luther went on to become one of Western history’s most significant figures. Luther spent his early years in relative anonymity as a monk and scholar. But in 1517 Luther penned a document attacking the Catholic Church’s corrupt practice of selling “indulgences” to absolve sin. His “95 Theses,” which propounded two central beliefs—that the Bible is the central religious authority and that humans may reach salvation only by their faith and not by their deeds—was to spark the Protestant Reformation. Although these ideas had been advanced before, Martin Luther codified them at a moment in history ripe for religious reformation. The Catholic Church was ever after divided, and the Protestantism that soon emerged was shaped by Luther’s ideas. His writings changed the course of religious and cultural history in the West.

    Please no memes.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Al Liguori
    , @Anon
  198. @Art

    Hey Art!

    Thanks for the profound comment which should trouble knowing (aware) Jews,🤔 “The biggest question is what is going to happen to the Jews in America? What is their fate?”

    As you know, but as a reminder, and per Alan Sabrosky: ‘Israel did 9/11 and there will be hell to pay when America finds out.”

  199. @Truth3

    After dealing with hasbara trolls & getting red-pilled to the JQ, it’s understandable that we’d get so disgusted with Jews that we’d despise them all, “to the last one.”

    Most stereotypes are earned — with that yellow flag that in mind, I continue to judge people individually, based on their individual behavior. Jews included.

    • Replies: @Pheasant
  200. @Fran Taubman

    ‘You would have figured something or another group to complain about. That is you MO. Most Jew hatred is an inability to solve the worlds dilemmas with out a scapegoat.’

    You happen to be grotesquely mistaken. But have it your way. I’ve no respect for your opinion.

  201. @Sean McBride

    ‘Based on careful and honest introspection — -is your interest in this subject actually driven more by affection for Palestinians than by hostility towards Jews?’

    This would be like asking me if my objections to the Holocaust would have been driven more by affection for Jews or hostility towards Germans.

    Neither one? Maybe I would object to Israel regardless of who was perpetrating it?

  202. @mcohen

    ‘I read your article while having a falafel.Great restaurant that sells Israeli street food.’

    ? Why’d you get a falafel at a restaurant that sells Jewish food?

    …or are you suggesting that ‘Israeli’ food is actually Palestinian?

  203. Alden says:
    @Haruto Rat

    I think what A123 means is; In the 1920s, the British who held Palestine as a colonial mandate, guaranteed land to the native Palestinians.

    Then in 1948 when the Russians introduced the resolution to create Israel to the UN assembly the United Nations gave to Israel the lands it had acquired from the Palestinian natives.

    So the United Nations in 1948 overturned the 1920s British guarantees to the Palestinians.

  204. renfro says:

    HAHAHA…

    Facebook suspended Netanyhu’s official page over a racist post claiming that “Arabs… want to destroy us all – women, children and men.”

    Netanyahu’s Facebook page suspended over hate speech

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/benjamin-netanyahu-facebook-page-suspended-why-arabs-post-a9102541.html

  205. Anon[428] • Disclaimer says:

    Curious as to why can not the World Diaspora Unite and Call on World Judeo Diaspora to Levy a Yearly Income Tax to fund the State of Israel instead demanding that American Non- Jews having to do so on a yearly basis?
    Why can not the Jewish Oligarchs take their Billions of looted Dollars go and settle in Israel to create jobs and economy for Jews to want to move settle down to live in a Jewish State of their own and create a True land of Milk and Honey?
    Why can not the Jews Liquidate their assets in America, Canada, Europe, Australia and settle down in Israel and stop living of the Blood, Sweat and work of the Non-Jews of the World?

    • Agree: renfro
    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @frankie p
  206. Alden says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Martin Luther spent some time in Rome as a monk, standard pilgrimage trip. Rome had a huge Jewish community at the time. Like everybody else, they lived off the Vatican and pilgrimage tourist trade, selling Old Testament art rather than Catholic art.

    I’ve always wondered if Luther had contact with Roman jews when he was there. My thought really fits in with his idea the Jews would convert to his sect Lutheranism and Protestantism’s emphasis on the Jewish part of the Bible. The various Puritan sects were nothing but wanna be jews.

    I know Luther turned against the Jews when they didn’t become Lutheran. Still, I’ve always wondered. Then there’s the 1500s Protestant Old Testament printing presses run by Jews living in the Netherlands

  207. @renfro

    Because “our” government now grants special rights and favors to vocal interest groups, such as a Russian Jews among others, I concluded, albeit reluctantly, that the time for the white majority to cling to that tripe ” Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country” is long past.

    When every other group has it’s hand out, to be “high-minded” and altruistic by not doing the same is insanity.

    To any politico who wants my vote, riddle me this: What’s in it for me? What will you give me? What will you give my children?

    I will act “high-minded” again when every other group does the same.

  208. David Sheen does very good videos on Israeli “politics” that I recommend anyone interested in understanding Israel watch. Its pretty eye opening to learn about Israel, and then listen to Democrats go on about racism, white supremacists or white nationalists and even Republicans go on about Israel being a “democracy” or call Maduro, Lil Kim or Putin a dictator. Hypocrites all. Hard to take any politician whining about racists and white supremacists seriously when they vote to send Israel weapons or welfare. LOL

    Here is a link to Davids youtube channel, watch the one titled: Netanyahu’s New Normal, all of his videos are good, you may not agree with everything he believes, but he’s very good on Israeli politics.

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7ZJ4QRIv-QWKgJpRdtQHvQ

    Imagine if this were America, and Palestinians were replaced with black people:

    Academic claims Israeli school textbooks contain bias

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/aug/07/israeli-school-racism-claim

    This is another good article, I’ll paste some of the important stuff from it, but you should read the whole thing.

    How Britain’s Biggest Racists Created Zionism

    http://transmissionsmedia.com/how-britains-biggest-racists-created-zionism/

    [MORE]

    When Herzl’s tracts were first circulated, leaders of 500 Jewish communities petitioned the Emperor to have Zionism outlawed as a “godless movement.” One Berlin paper described Herzl as an “English agent.” A German archaeologist accused Herzl of “conspiring” with London, charging that Herzl was a “British agent who was luring the Jewish people into a nefarious adventure designed to serve the strategic interests of his employers in London.” (Herzl challenged the author to a duel!)

    In 1897 a publisher of Viennese weekly, asked what he could do for Herzl’s cause, responded, “If Herzl should be taken to the lunatic asylum, I shall be glad to put my carriage at his disposal.” Prominent American Jews accused the early organizers of Zionism of trying to “brainwash” immigrants coming from Eastern Europe. A faction of American Reform Jews who labeled Zionism “that crazy messianic movement over the ocean” stated forthrightly that “our Zion is humanity religionized, not Judaism nationalized.”

    The vast majority of Jews perceived Zionism, correctly, to be an assault, with genocidal implications, directed mainly against Jews and Judaism.

    Several prominent Jews likened Herzl to the Reverend Jim Jones of the seventeenth century, Sabbatai Zevi, a self-styled Messiah who led a group to lemming-like self-destruction in Palestine. Rabbi Joseph Bloch, who editorialized against anti- Semitism in the press and as a member of the Austrian Parliament, warned Herzl that he was espousing the “need for a blood sacrifice,” the “intention of reviving a sacrificial cult in a rebuilt Temple.”

    Bilinski especially took Herzl to task for trying to build up support for Zionism by the tactic of exploiting the “Jewish bogeyman” myth in meetings with diplomats, rulers, and financiers: “It the malicious propaganda that the Jews are a danger to the world and that they are revolutionaries continues, the Zionists will, instead of establishing a Jewish State, cause the destruction of European Jewry.”

    Anti-Semitic tracts in the 1890s frequently commented that “Palestine might make a good mousetrap for the Jews.”

    This collaboration presaged the close collaboration between Zionists and Nazis during the 1933-45 period, including Zionist agreement to let nearly a million Jews die in return for letting the select, racially “pure” few escape from Hungary and Rumania. In this relationship, the cult of Thule and Odin of the elite Nazis, and the cult of Zion, both created in London’s oligarchic cult laboratories, were to help each other “purify their races.” This was more than a marriage of convenience. At the root of both movements were shared cult-race brainwashing, and shared hatred for the attempt by individual Jews and groups of Jews to leave ghetto life behind according to the laws established by Moses, Philo, Spinoza, and the great Spanish Jewish thinkers of the medieval period.

    But none of his successors has outdone Herzl’s venomous hatred of Jews. In a pique of rage against the widespread anti-Zionism he was meeting among Jews, he authored a piece called Kike (Mauschel in the original German) which raved that anti-Zionist Jews were “disgusting,” “dirty,” and “mean.” “Kike is anti-Zionist,” Herzl railed, and concluded that the Zionists would act toward “kikes” like William Tell and his arrows: “Kike, take care! Friends, Zionism’s arrow is aimed at Kike’s breast.”

    During the 1896-1902 period, Theodore Herzl made several trips to England. In his diaries, he would note that, by aiding creation of a Zionist state, the British would “get at one stroke … ten million secret but loyal subjects active in all walks of life all over the world…. As at a signal, all of them will place themselves at the service of the magnanimous nation that brings long-desired help…. England will get ten million agents for her greatness and influence.”

    The Anglican oligarchy, however, did not come forth publicly with their decision to create a Zionist state until the peak days of World War I, and only then as a matter of destabilizing Russia and creating a Zionist lobby in the U.S. to use as a tool in bringing North America into the service of the threatened British Empire. A Zionist state then became an immediate, “live” objective, not accidentally at the same time that Nazism became an immediate, live objective.

    The obvious similarities between Nazism and Zionism are, as it were, genetic. After World War I, Zionism was massively promoted by the British elite as the flip-side of Nazism. Their creation of Nazism signified an attempted unification of the “superior English stock” with the “Germanic” branch of the Anglo-Saxon “race,” with the objective of conquering Russia and securing control in the Middle East for which Russia (and later the USSR) was their main competitor. Their creation of Zionism was the establishment of a “land”-obsessed cult of “Jews who are not Jews,” spoon-fed on Semitic racial ideas and Old Testament stories regarding Jewish superiority (to neighboring Arabs) as an ideological excuse for being, in Herzl’s words, “England’s ten million agents” in the region.

    There are three fundamental facts about the elite which ran Britain in the latter part of the nineteenth century, through the Balfour Declaration commitment to a “homeland for the Jews in Palestine,” through the 1920s-1940s development of Nazism and then the Israeli state.
    First: The total number of British policy-makers actually responsible for Zionism and for the Balfour Declaration is tiny — perhaps ten, at the most twenty.

    Second: This handful was by and large the same core group of forces guiding all imperialist strategy, i.e., the group that established the Round Table in the 1890s on a mandate contained in Cecil Rhodes’s will. This same core group ran British policy from the 1880s through the World War Two period.

    Third: There is a heavy overlap between this Balfour Declaration “Zionist” crowd and the group that pushed Adolf Hitler and the Drang nach Osten strategy for Germany in the 1920s and 1930s — the so-called Cliveden Set. This includes a handful of “first circle” and “second circle” Jewish-name financiers and policymakers who were backing Hitler right up to the 1939-1940 conjuncture — Rothschild, Warburg, et al.

    The fact is there was one single Nazi-Zionist lobby, and this lobby is more or less interchangeable with the Round Table inner elite. We now turn to an example.

    In 1908 Winston authored a statement insisting that “Jerusalem must be the only ultimate goal… The establishment of a Jewish State astride the bridge between Europe and Africa, flanking the land roads to the East, would not only be an immense advantage to the British Empire but a notable step towards a harmonious disposition of the world among its peoples.” In 1920 Churchill called for “the creation in our lifetime by the banks of the Jordan of a Jewish State under the protection of the British Crown which might comprise three to four millions of Jews.”

    In a nutshell, the policy of the Round Table for Germany throughout the 1918-1939 period was to support a combination of extreme debt collection and rearmament for which Warburg agent Hjalmar Schacht’s policy — leading to the Jewish extermination camps — was the necessary expression.

    The following individuals were among those building Nazism to serve Anglo-Saxon geopolitical mysticism: Lord Milner, Leopold Amery, Jan Christaan Smuts, Lord Brand, Winston Churchill, and the scions of the Rothschild family. With a small handful of others, these members of the “Cliveden Set” (Cliveden was the name of the Astor family estate where the Round Table coordinators met) utilized their enormous influence in the international press to build up “critical support” for the Nazi atrocity.

    Thus in the mid-1930s Lothian traveled to Germany to try to keep Hitler on the track of maintaining Germany in the fold of Anglo-Saxon world politics. Amery, Lothian, et al. only broke with the Hitler policy in the 1939-40 period, when their Frankenstein got out of control. Policy then shifted toward involving the U.S. in saving the British Empire.

    Obviously, Churchill’s “anti-Nazi” image is bluff and myth. Throughout the war Sir Winston specifically forbade operations inside Germany that would have brought in an anti-Hitler leadership. As he said before parliament, he preferred Hitler. The role of the Jewish-name members of the Round Table elite in all this is particularly damning. Not until the late 1930s, and in some cases right through to 1940, did important elements in the Rothschild clique break with the Germanic-race-cult geopolitics. Max Warburg of the Warburg families, whose members were almost in all cases trained in finance by the Rothschilds, was, according to a recent biography of the Warburgs, one of the foremost advisers to Hjalmar Schacht, throughout the 1920s and 1930s.

    All coverups aside, it was Schacht, in collaboration with the Warburg interests, the Schroeder Bank, and the Bank of England, who made the 1932 decision to put Hitler in power. After making that decision, Schacht successfully sold the Hitler option to the Rothschild-run New York-based “Our Crowd” families during a visit to the U.S. in 1932. The manipulations of the Rothschild-linked Goldman Sachs investment house in New York, and of the American and German branches of the Warburg families, were in large part instrumental in putting the Krupp and I.G. Farben interests respectively on an irreversible course of support for Nazi economics, against the Rapallo course of East-West cooperation for the industrialization for Germany.

    A concluding note on the Chamberlains. It is of more than passing interest that Nazi-fawning, anti-communist Neville Chamberlain was sent out to marshal support for Zionism among English Jews in 1917 after the announcement of the Balfour Declaration. Said this backer of Hitler, “The existence of this new Jewish State would only add to the dignity and influence of Jews in other countries.”

    The Chamberlain family, of course, had earlier been blessed with one of the great race-cult mystics of the past hundred years, Richard Wagner’s in-law Houston Stewart Chamberlain. Yet more interesting is Joseph Chamberlain, father of Neville, and author of the following words: “I have been called the apostle of the Anglo-Saxon race, and I am proud of the title. I think the Anglo-Saxon race is as fine as any on earth. Not that I despise other races. They have their several virtues and aptitudes, though I admit the aptitudes of my own race appeal to me most strongly. There is, in fact, only one race that I despise — the Jews. They are physical cowards.”

    Not surprisingly, Joseph Chamberlain became strongly pro-Zionist as a result of meetings with Herzl. In the words of his biographer, Julian Amery (of the same foul Amery clan), “Hitherto his interest in Zionism had been chiefly humanitarian. He now saw in it more positive opportunities for British policy…. He was the first among British statesmen to see in Zionism both an end to the ancient Jewish problem and a means of advancing the interests of the British Empire.”

  209. @Sean McBride

    ‘What other oppressed peoples around the world, besides Palestinians, merit close attention and passionate emotional commitment?’

    What other ones are there whose oppression we are so lavishly and enthusiastically funding, supporting, and enabling?

    Here we go ’round the Mulberry Bush again. As I have said before, it may well be the case that many teenagers are out there tonight stealing cars, raping girls, and generally misbehaving.

    That’s regrettable. If, however, one of them is my son, it’s a different matter. I have a moral obligation to act.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  210. @Just another serf

    pick one ..Christian or Bablyonian Talmudism (Judaism)… but don’t fool yourself they have NOTHING in common nor do they meld into one except in the minds of the dumb ass gullible Christian zionists

    • Replies: @byrresheim
  211. @Colin Wright

    The Palestinian refugees unlike other world wide refugees are the most coddled, protected and funded. They have an entire UN agency dedicated to their never ending and expanding status as refugees. It is a scam a gimmick. Palestinians who are citizens of other countries, still have Palestinian refugee status regardless of the official definition of refugee which includes only the first generation, not the second and third.
    What about the Syrians, the Rohingya, and a host of others. They are given billions of dollars a year by the EU.
    The oppress themselves for status of victimization, they choose to be oppressed, when a million times they have been shown the way to statehood and dignity. Their leaders have a billions in swiss banks. Nepotism etc. Just look at the Abbas family and of course Arafat, where they had to send people to Paris to search for his wife’s bunker to release the billions he had stashed away.
    It is all a corrupt scam. Those thinking the Palestinians are oppressed should take a tour of the ME, and stop by Israel on your way home.

  212. @geokat62

    Maybe replay the Nazi playbook with better luck this time around.?
    Common you can do it, round them up, deport them to the moon.
    Do blood test? by names. How are you going to tell who is a Jew?
    Mixed marriages.
    The Nazi’s went by grandparents. It is more complicated today.
    You are truly sick.

  213. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Fran Taubman

    Your post was a random amalgam of word salad and whataboutism—hence, a random meme for you.

  214. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @geokat62

    What are some of your recommendations for addressing the serious issue of the JQ?

    educate the world about the fundamentally genocidal Master Race tenets of Judaism and the history inspired by that Jewish supremacism
    apprehend all perpetrators and accomplices of crimes against humanity, including economic crimes against humanity—accomplices, enablers, agitators, enforcers, mouthpieces, talking heads, puppets, middle management, political prostitutes, change agents, and other shabbos goyim
    prosecute the perpetrators and accomplices in fair and open trials
    punish the guilty
    repatriate all ill-gotten gains, especially what has been stolen by usury, bribery, and other fraud by dynastic looters
    leave the innocent alone!

    http://judaism.is/catholic-action.html

  215. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    Check this out:

    Ask Tulsi Gabbard to co-sponsor Betty McCollum’s bill, H.R.2407 – Promoting Human Rights for Palestinian Children Living Under Israeli Military Occupation Act:

    https://diy.rootsaction.org/petitions/co-sponsor-hr2407?source=twitter-share-button&utm_source=twitter&share=7f93c0fd-5214-4398-93a8-03155a1dc1b1

    diy.rootsaction.org/petitions/co-sponsor-hr2407?source=twitter-share-button&utm_source=twitter&share=7f93c0fd-5214-4398-93a8-03155a1dc1b1 … via @Roots_Action

  216. @Fran Taubman

    ‘The Palestinian refugees unlike other world wide refugees are the most coddled, protected and funded…’

    Oh, I dunno. How about Holocaust survivors?

  217. renfro says:
    @A123

    The U.N. intentionally violated international law when it stole Jewish Palestinian land guaranteed in the 20’s. Pick (A) or (B), you can have only one
    The U.N. is a theatre stage. At most it is a good place to give a speech, and I am being generous giving it that much credit. Nothing developed there is enforcable. No one serious believes in it anymore.

    You are the typical ignorant troll. If the UN has nothing enforceable then UN Res 181 that created Israel is worthless . So you chose…lol.

    For anyone who has questions about anything said or done by anyone re Jews and Palestine since 1912 go here>

    https://www.un.org/unispal/history/origins-and-evolution-of-the-palestine-problem/part-i-1917-1947/#The_disintegration_of_the_Ottoman_Empire

    [MORE]

    1917-1947 (Part I)
    Introduction
    Contents
    1 Origins and Evolution of the Palestine Problem: 1917-1947 (Part I)
    1.1 Introduction
    1.2 I. The Beginnings of the Palestine Issue
    1.2.1 The disintegration of the Ottoman Empire
    1.2.2 Anglo-Arab understandings on Arab independence
    1.2.3 The Committee on the Husain-McMahon correspondence
    1.3 II. The Balfour Declaration
    1.3.1 The historical background of the “Jewish national home” concept
    1.3.2 Zionist efforts directed at the British Government
    1.3.3 The drafting of the Declaration
    1.3.4 The “safeguards” in the Declaration
    1.3.5 The meaning of the Balfour Declaration
    1.3.6 The reactions to the Declaration
    1.3.7 The implications of the Declaration
    1.4 III. The League of Nations Mandates
    1.4.1 Arab nationalism and Great Power plans
    1.4.2 The Covenant of the League of Nations
    1.4.3 The allocation of Arab territories
    1.4.4 The working of the Mandates System
    1.5 IV. Palestine Mandated
    1.5.1 The Zionist Commission
    1.5.2 The Paris Peace Conference
    1.5.3 The King-Crane Commission
    1.5.4 Allied policy on Palestine
    1.5.5 The drafting of the Palestine Mandate
    1.5.6 The borders of Palestine
    1.5.7 The question of the validity of the Mandate
    1.6 V. Mandated Palestine: The “Jewish National Home”
    1.6.1 The course of the Mandate
    1.6.2 The start of the Mandate
    1.6.3 The “Churchill Memorandum”
    1.6.4 Immigration into Palestine, 1920-1929 68
    1.7 VI. Mandated Palestine – Palestinian Resistance
    1.7.1 The Start of Palestinian Resistance
    1.7.2 The Revolt of 1929
    1.7.3 The riots of 1933
    1.7.4 The Palestinian rebellion against the British Mandate
    1.8 VII. Mandated Palestine: The Partition Plans
    1.8.1 On the rebellion:
    1.8.2 On its causes:
    1.8.3 On the new Arab hostility towards the Jews:
    1.8.4 On the Arab-Jewish relationship:
    1.8.5 On Palestinian demands for independence:
    1.8.6 The London Conference, 1939
    1.8.7 The “MacDonald White Paper”
    1.9 VIII. Palestine and the League of Nations
    1.10 IX. The Ending of the Mandate
    1.10.1 Palestine in 1939
    1.10.2 The implementation of the 1939 White Paper
    1.10.3 The Jewish response
    1.10.4 The “Biltmore Programme”
    1.10.5 The Anglo-American Enquiry Committee
    1.10.6 The London Conference
    1.10.7 The transformation of Mandated Palestine
    1.11 Notes:
    1.12 Annexes
    1.12.1 Annex I – The Sykes-Picot Agreement of 16 May 1916
    1.12.2 Annex II – “Excluded areas” under Hussein-McMahon Correspondence Map
    1.12.3 Annex III – Ottoman Administrative Districts – Map
    1.12.4 Annex IV – Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations, 28 June 1919
    1.12.5 Annex V – The Mandate for Palestine, 24 July 1922
    1.12.6 Annex VI – Zionist Claims for Palestine – Map
    1.12.7 Annex VII – Royal Commission’s Partition Plan “A” – Map
    1.12.8 Annex VIII – Palestine Partition Commission Plan “B” – Map
    1.12.9 Annex IX – Palestine Partition Commission Plan “C” – Map

  218. Pretty lame response to a Martin Luther question.
    Martin Luther is a word salad?
    The man who knocked you Catholics on your asses for selling “indulgences “ to absolve sin
    Sounds like satan to
    Man and Luther was not Jewish. Yikes Al!
    Your theory up in smoke. All about the Jews.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  219. renfro says:
    @Fran Taubman

    The Palestinian refugees unlike other world wide refugees are the most coddled, protected and funded.

    You have no idea how many people will be dancing on your grave. If you did you’d flee to the Himalayas and pretend to be a Buddhist to save your life.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
    , @Sorrow Road
  220. “Israel’s Orthodox Jews are the fastest growing group in the country. They are also the country’s poorest population, 45 percent live below the poverty line in segregated communities.”

    Sounds like what’s going on up and down the Hudson River Valley and a number of other areas in the United States … lots of orthodox jews in segregated communities — oftentimes trying to kick out the gentiles who were there long before the jews arrived — stretching the law to the breaking point — sticking their gob into the public trough at every chance … and, in NYC, their rabbis bugger the young men in the yeshiva and diddle the women in their congregations — all the while pretty much threatening anyone who tries to call the police. And, strangely enough, the politicians in NYC kiss their asses … and don’t bother to prosecute these perverts — leaving it up to them to police themselves.

    Way to go …

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  221. Ghali says:
    @Renoman

    The West-US will creat another criminal monoster somewhere.

  222. renfro says:

    Since Saudi head chopper Prince MbS likes war so much he should have a little at home. The Yemen rebels blew up something in Saudi in August so its probably them again.

    Explosion, Fire Hit Saudi Aramco Facility
    https://www.usnews.com › Civic › Business News

    45 mins ago – DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — An explosion and fire struck a major Saudi Aramco oil processing facility Saturday in the kingdom’s east, as officials did not offer a cause for the blast. … Saudi Aramco describes its Abqaiq oil processing facility there as “the largest crude oil stabilization plant in the world.”
    Video shows gunshots that were heard earlier in Buqayq, eastern SaudiArabia, were explosions also rocked the city around 4 am this morning Gunfire also reportedly heard in Buqayq.

  223. @A123

    With respect to China and Bhutan I simply meant the laws of conquest or colonisation, where aliens carve up someone else’s land, leads to that being an option for someone else later.

    The British Empire and organized Jewry did it to Palestine in the 20th, why not China and the Palestinians in the 21st, hypothetically? Same laws.

    ‘What works for the individual, works for the society. What works for society, works for the individual.’ As Aurelius said approximately. The law of conquest is terrible – and it does not work on either the individual level or the group level to reduce suffering.

    The laws you speak of from the 1920s are no longer the system – since it’s not colonies (Herzl himself said Israel was to be an enterprise sanctioned by the colonial powers, so the natives didn’t revolt) that are traded by Empires, but votes in referenda for self determination.

    And

    400BC Judaic
    200BC Judaic
    0AD Judaic
    200AD Christian
    400AD Christian (614AD?..)

    Sure, Islam did all that. But it was an error, and you don’t fix an error with another error.

    And for blessed nation people to justify their actions and breaking of the ten commandments (well, ‘thou shall not murder’ is ok if sanctioned by the state of course!) by pointing at Muslims and saying they do it – isn’t that like the Jewish equivalent of looking to monkeys for behavioural advice?

    We have the current law paradigm. Which the birth of Israel broke, since the 70% Palestinian majority did not get to vote according to the UN Charter. Israel was the first ‘human rights colonial exercise’. It was the most outright, since the newer ones like Iraq etc put in puppets rather than allies – less controlly looking imo. It is time to decolonise, like you say! 🙂

    • Replies: @A123
  224. Wally says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Hey Chuck, aka: The Commie Hick, your blood pressure needs attention.

    And no problem, my little bumpkin, I’ll take a flawed Trump over any of the other current candidates any day.

    But then maybe you should run for president.
    Oops I forgot, there are already so many Communists running.

    Still owning you, always will.

    Cheers.

  225. Alfred says:
    @Altai

    Last week, I was waiting at a small consulate of a East European country to apply for a visa. Ahead of me were two Israeli couples. Behind me in the queue was a secular Israeli. The couples ahead of me had all of the ridiculous clothes and habits of their ilk. One of the women seemed to have metal teeth. They were constantly chattering aloud in their language. They took turns to wait at the window. The goings and comings between them were constant. They kept on moving my rucksack that I had left on a chair in the waiting room – although there were plenty of empty seats. I felt so bad that I thought of abandoning my quest. I did not because I had driven for two hours to get there.

    The Israeli behind me seemed to be trying to get ahead of me in this small queue. I firmly told him in English that I was next in the queue. He consented. It turned out that he spoke good English. He also spoke Russian. He was a medical student. I was really struck by the differences between these two sets of people who belong to the same nation. They really had almost nothing in common. If they had not spoken to each other in Hebrew, I would not have known that they belonged to the same country.

  226. Alfred says:
    @Rational

    The Exodus from Egypt never happened. The Ancient Egyptians were excellent at writing things down. Anyway, geologists know that Palestine was a desert at that time – not a land of milk and honey.

    Not so long ago, the writings of some of the builders of the pyramids were discovered – the pyramids were built thousands of years before the Jews were allegedly in Egypt. That is how good the Egyptians were at preserving their past history.

    Diary of Merer

  227. geokat62 says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Maybe replay the Nazi playbook with better luck this time around.?

    Maybe try answering the seven questions I put to Incitatus. But you would never dare. It’s much easier to simply drop the standard ad hominems, isn’t it?

  228. @renfro

    Typical Jihadist talk. When the facts smack you in the face resort to violence. Wow that sounds like a threat. Moderator take note.

  229. Richard B says:
    @Bookish1

    Exactly!

    When European man first came into contact with Indians and Blacks neither one had wheels or a written language, were chasing comets away in fear as if they were wild animals about to attack the tribe, and were still dancing for rain.

    And they weren’t called “Waring Tribes” for nothing either.

    Fighting, caputuring, torturing and killing each other was a normal part of their day to day.

    So much for their BS and impossible to believe in Myth of Innocence that says, in effect,

    “We never do anything wrong. Things are done to us. White Man Bad!”

    No wonder so many Whites hold them and their Jewish masters in such contempt.

    • Replies: @Richard B
  230. geokat62 says:

    Is it safe to say the multi-culti experiment is an abject failure, or do some of us require more proof?

    Thanks, Jewish Supremacist organizations!

  231. Richard B says:
    @Richard B

    I’d like to put my previous comment in the form of three personal anecdotes.

    For anyone interested in reading on, I realize there’s no way I can prove these stories to be true. But they are.

    My justification for sharing them is that we’re hardwired to tell our stories.

    Knowing this is exactly why Jewish Supremacy Inc. is shutting us down while demonizing us (they cry while they beat you).

    It’s their way of depriving us of our humanity. Dostoyevsky didn’t call them “merciless” for nothing.

    [MORE]

    So, we might as well share while we can and where we can.

    I don’t think it’ll be all that difficult for anyone to connect the dots and draw a connection between this comment and Gilad’s article. It’s implicit. But it’s there.

    Way back when while dating a POC (in the late 80’s when PC was just kicking in) she started in on me when she realized she couldn’t make me feel bad for being White,

    Her: You know, my friends say you think you’re better than everyone else.
    Me: Better than anyone, or just better than them?
    Her: Better than them.
    Me: Of course I think I’m better than them. Do you how you can be better than you and your friends?
    Her: (silent staring)
    Me: Just TRY! Just try instead of complaining and you’ll automatically be better than you are now.

    The second anecdote came around the same time. I was asked by my co-worker and his brother (both from Ecuador but living in the States since they were boys. We were all in our 20’s) to join them for a beer after work.

    While picking up a another friend the co-worker turned to me and said out of nowhere, “Why do White people think they’re better than everyone else.”

    Without skipping a beat I said, “How many White people do you know are moving to Ecuador to live a better life.” They just laughed.

    And lastly, while hitting on a girl in a bar she said, “You’re Irish aren’t you?”
    “Yes, I am. How could you tell?”
    “By your face.”
    “Ah, nice. And you’re Jewish, no?”
    “Yes! I am! How did you know?”
    “You’re nose.”

    That’s how you have to talk to them. Just be honest. And if they’re insulting, pushback. Was a time when you could actually do that.

    But now? Today? It’s way too late for that.

    They know that we know it’s way too risky. And they know the reason.

    Whites don’t care about each other. That’s how they advanced. Not because they’re good and right and their interpretation of history is honest and accurate.

    No. Not at all.

    They advanced because Whites don’t care about each other. So, it was only a matter of time.

    And that time is here.

    They know that we’re on our own.

    Because of this they smell blood and are going in for the kill.

    And that’s exactly what they are doing and will continue to do unless Whites wake up, organize, and fight back.

    At this point, it’s as simple as that.

    We, as a people, are now officially an Occupied Territory.

    And the only way to liberate an occupied territory is with aggression.

    And yet, people continue looking for an easier, softer way.

    There isn’t one.

    We’re all Palestinians now.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  232. Richard B says:

    Read it. Agreed.

    Though many of them don’t read the Talmud the sentiments in that book have been deeply internalized to the point of operating unconsciously and, therefore, automatically.

    This would explain their fly off the handle knee-jerk reaction to having their beliefs challenged.

    I realize they’re not the only people in the world who have been or are guilty of that.

    We all are or have been to some extent.

    No. The point with them is that they do it with an inflexible single-mindedness of purpose that simply isn’t found among other people, anywhere.

    Which is why Jewish Supremacy Inc’s rise to power is in direct proportion to the collapse of the very civlization that power is supposed to control.

    One only needs to look around and see that all of Western civilizations social-institutions, education, finance, government, etc. are in free fall.

    In short, what we’re witnessing is The Pyrrhic Victory of Jewish Supremacy Inc.

  233. hobo says:

    Did anyone catch Bill Maher’s show last night? One segment, Bari Weiss promoting her new book ‘ How to Fight Anti-Semitism’ is an instant classic in fact-free narrative spin. She starts off with this ‘gem’ and goes downhill from there:

    “Societies were anti-semitism thrives are societies that are dead or dying. Why is that? It’s because anti-semitism is the ultimate conspiracy and when anti-semitism thrives it’s a sign that society has replaced truth with lies. And so anti-semitism is a kind of, one way to think about it is that it’s a thought virus …”

    Weiss, who writes for the New York Times, (along with moronic Maher for that matter) is living proof that refutes any notion of Jewish intellectual acuity. ‘Hari’ Bari, who has a propensity for committing intellectual suicide every time she opens her mouth, is part of the new and improved version of the jewish spin machine. They must be getting desperate.

    Bari Weiss: How to Fight Anti-Semitism | Real Time with Bill Maher ( 8 min )

  234. geokat62 says:
    @Fran Taubman

    When the facts smack you in the face

    Speaking of facts, anyone familiar with the truth about the “Italian Mafia.” Well, it turns out it’s not Italian and it’s not a mafia. The truth is it’s a Jewish syndicate!


    Israel, A Promised Land For Organized Crime

    This documentary shows how a WikiLeaks hacked cable from the American Embassy in Israel, warning America of danger from Jewish organized criminals, was deliberately suppressed by the Jewish controlled media! Julian Assange stated clearly in an interview that he gave thousands of cables exposing Israel to the mass media such as the NY Times, but they suppressed the files that exposed Israel because of “Jewish sensitivities.” WikiLeaks embarrassed America and dozens of other nations, but the Jewish dominated media suppressed the WikiLeaks cables that exposed the perfidy of Israel!

    • Replies: @Alfred
  235. Avery says:
    @Fran Taubman

    {You are truly sick.}

    YOU are the one who is truly sick.
    Where in the post did poster [geokat62] write _anything_ about rounding up Jews or deporting them to wherever?

    Conflating every criticism of the State of Israel or various Jewish-American NGOs’ legal, but odious efforts to get America and Americans involved in the Middle East quagmires on behalf of a foreign state, and which benefits neither America nor the American taxpayer with anti-Semitism or Nazis rounding up and murdering Jews (and others) – is sick.

    Given my ancestry, I am quite sympathetic to Jews having their own homeland*.
    More power to wealthy American Jews spending their own private funds to help Israel.
    But when US taxpayers are being socked to fund a wealthy, powerful foreign state whose policies are, more often than not, against American interests, then criticism is not only warranted, but long overdue.

    ______________
    * the plight of Palestinians and Israel’s brutal policies towards them – discussion for a different time.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  236. “The Exodus from Egypt never happened”

    Of course; but it is a literary expression of the liberation of Egyptian Imperial Power

    “Moses” is a figure of fantasy literature (Aramaic of Persian times) that is opposed to Pharaoh TutMoses III

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thutmose_III

    “hebrew” is a freeman, an ‘escapee, a fugitive outside the power of palaces’, local allies of the imperial power in the land of Canaan

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amarna_letters

    a “hebrew” that is: a “fugitive [outside of the power of the local allies of the imperial power]” can be an Egyptian soldier tired of imperial lies [CNN, BBC, WaPo, NYT, FOX … ] or a Canaanite peasant or an Arab goatherd: “Moses” Father-in-law is an Arab priest (Exodus 3,1)

    This people, the Palestinian … they have been opposing imperial power for three thousand years, and his religion was not Rabbinical judaism (200-); but something very close to primitive Islam

    This people, the Arabhebrew people of the land of Canaan, lately they have had the misfortune of running into the British Empire (1917-) and the Anglo-Zionist Empire (1947/1967-)

  237. @Anthony Aaron

    Orthodox Jews in NYC —

    Recently appointed head of NSA Cybersecurity Anne Neuberger is a member of this community, which is not as impoverished as led to believe: her grandparents & parents are among the wealthiest people in USA.

    Her father is George Karfunkel:

    https://forward.com/news/obituaries/339660/michael-karfunkel-the-orthodox-billionaire-no-one-heard-of-dies-at-72/

    “Michael Karfunkel, an eye-poppingly rich Orthodox Brooklyn billionaire who was virtually unknown outside of the religious Jewish community, has died. He was 72.
    Together with his brother George Karfunkel, who survived the 1976 raid on Entebbe, Michael and his family rank among the top hundred wealthiest families in the United States, according to Forbes. Their $3.2 billion fortune puts them in the same ranks as that of New York’s wealthiest Jewish families, such as the Tisches, Dursts and Rudins. The brothers’ two private foundations each made over a hundred million in grants in 2014.
    . . .
    George’s daughter, Anne Neuberger, is chief risk officer of the National Security Agency.
    The charities the two brothers controlled are among the largest, and most unusual, Jewish private foundations in the country. Michael Karfunkel’s private foundation, called the Hod Foundation, made $376 million in grants in 2014. His brother’s private foundation, Chesed Foundation of America, made $102 million in grants that year.
    The 2014 grants were out of the ordinary for both charities, and appear to represent a sort of reshuffling of the family’s assets. The vast majority of Hod Foundation’s grants went to a charity called Teferes Foundation, controlled by Barry Zyskind, Karfunkel’s son-in-law. The vast majority of Chesed Foundation’s grants went to a foundation named for Yehuda and Anne Neuberger, George Karfunkel’s daughter and son-in-law.
    . . .
    An investigative report published by the Southern Investigative Reporting Foundation in 2014 raised questions about the intersection between the Hod and Chesed charities and the Karfunkel brothers’ business interests. The report showed that the charities had made risky financial bets, and alleged that the brothers had overvalued shares of a company they controlled, called AmTrust, that they donated to the charities.

    Anne Neuberger
    AS TOLD TO BARBARA BENSOUSSAN

    https://jewishaction.com/jewish-world/people/anne-neuberger/

    Hasidic Jews in New York City are also among the most technologically savvy and invested, consistent with Neuberger’s combined expertise in finance and cyber tech. For at least a decade Hasidic Jews from Brooklyn have employed American (patsies?? software experts??) as mules for their software trade between Israel, the USA and RoW.

    Presumptive Billionaire-heiress Neuberger is a double-dipper in the bottomless barrel of Jewish victimology :
    Anne Neuberger
    Inside the NSA

    http://longnow.org/seminars/02014/aug/06/inside-nsa/

    “Of her eight great-grandparents, seven were murdered at Auschwitz. “So my family’s history burned into me a fear of what occurs when the power of a state is turned against its people or other people.
    . . .
    By 1976 they had saved up to take their first flight abroad. Their return flight from Tel Aviv was high-jacked by terrorists and landed at Entebbe Airport in Uganda. Non-Jewish passengers were released and the rest held hostage. The night before the terrorists were to begin shooting the hostages, a raid by Israeli commandos saved most of the passengers.

    Anne Neuberger was just a baby in 1976. “My life would have looked very different had a military operation not brought my parents home. It gives me a perspective on the threats of organized terror and the role of intelligence and counterterrorism.” When she later entered government service, she sought out intelligence, where she is now the principal advisor to the Director for managing NSA’s work with the private sector.”

    Don’t let the medieval hats and frocks delude you: it appears they play poor to extort more money from US taxpayers, and positions of crucial influence and totalized power over US communications (and finance: Sigal Mandelker is chief financial tormenter of Iran in US Treasury).

    • Replies: @renfro
  238. Erebus says:
    @renfro

    So unless all the Jews or 90% of them move to Israel or some other strictly Jewish enclave there will always be anti Semitism.

    That won’t work. There’ll nobody to do the real work needed to build and run a real economy. The pressure to emigrate would be overwhelming and with their endless capacity for working loophole and corrupting officialdom, we’d be back in the same boat in a decade.

    I suggest sending the whole lot, including Israel, to S. Africa. The Boers know how to take care of themselves, and in any case Jews have to eat too. The Boers love their farms, and the Jews will have no use for them.

    The African population will be lifted out of their current shiftless malaise to take up their natural Talmudic role as slaves. Setting aside some to work the Boer farms, the remaining Africans work out to roughly 3 slaves per Jew, say 12 per family. Say what you will about them, but a Jewish family with 12 slaves can be productive.

    It’ll feel like the Promised Land for everyone. Even the oligarchs will be happy, what with all the natural resources to exploit at marginal cost with slave labour. Well, all except for the Indians and Malays (coloureds), who make poor slaves. They’re best encouraged to emigrate (forcefully, if necessary) if they can’t run a decent restaurant.

    It may not be a “strictly Jewish enclave”, but it can work if all other countries deny long term visas to the “new South Africans” like they did the South Africans of 1970 and may, in fact Make South Africa Great Again! At that point, half of Africa will be clamouring at their borders instead of the EU’s.

    It’s win, win, win, win for everyone.

    • Replies: @Malla
  239. A123 says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Fran,

    As usual you are 100% correct. Keep it up.

    The Palestinian refugees unlike other world wide refugees are the most coddled, protected and funded. They have an entire UN agency dedicated to their never ending and expanding status as refugees. It is a scam a gimmick. Palestinians who are citizens of other countries, still have Palestinian refugee status regardless of the official definition of refugee which includes only the first generation, not the second and third.

    UNRWA was a terrible mistake from Day 1. The one thing a bureau-rat loves most is his own job. If they behaved responsibly and helped Muslims successfully relocate away from Jewish land they would become *horror* unemployed. However, if the U.N. Rats cause Muslims to die by the hundreds and suffer by the thousands they keep their jobs.

    Fortunately, it looks like the War Criminals of UNRWA have finally gone too far. The mandate for their is existence is likely to expire (1).

    … the mandate of the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestinian Refugees (UNRWA) may not be renewed this year due to charges of corruption in the agency.
    … the Netherlands, Switzerland and Belgium to temporarily suspend funding for UNRWA in the aftermath of allegations of graft and sexual misconduct among the its senior management.

    Without UNRWA intentionally funding and and inciting violence the situation will significantly improve.

    Even if UNRWA manages to limp over the line for renewal, their budget will be cut by 50-67%. This would cause it’s own virtuous cycle. Iranian al’Hamas pays its employees by giving them U.N. jobs. (2)

    UNRWA operation on the ground was actually being run by the 13,000 Hamas UN employees.

    Will 6,000-9,000 members of Hamas be laid off? If not, where will they money come from to keep the terrorists ’employed’?
    _____

    Things to continue to look brighter and brighter for Israeli every day. You can tell this is accurate by how histrionic the Iranian shills are getting here on unz.com.

    When the Shills get Shrill — It is a Thrill !

    PEACE 😇

    _____

    (1) https://m.jpost.com/Middle-East/Palestinians-fear-UNRWA-mandate-may-not-be-renewed-598895

    (2) https://www.israpundit.org/how-trump-started-a-civil-war-between-the-un-and-hamas/?

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @anon
  240. geokat62 says:
    @Avery

    Thanks, Avery… appreciate it!

  241. @Richard B

    Whites don’t care about each other. That’s how they advanced. Not because they’re good and right and their interpretation of history is honest and accurate.

    That’s where you’ve been led into a trap that results in a failed analysis:

    It’s not that “Whites” don’t care about each other, it’s more that USA is a collection of diverse ethnicities, not “whites.”
    When those ethnics lived in and among their own — in Polish Hill, “Hunkie-Town,” Little Italy, China Town, the numerous German enclaves, Irish parishes — they throve on the internal support of their co-ethnics, even as the alternately worked with and competed with other ethnics.

    Corporate employers socially engineered work situations so that competing ethnics worked together, frequently unable to communicate across group due to language differences.

    It is because USA is their vaunted “nation of immigrants” that an organized ethnic group with a millennia-long proclivity to grasp power has been able to keep diverse groups at each other’s throats.

    Drop the “White” label; it has little explanatory value.
    Differing ethnic groups in USA are just as distinctive as are Jews, we have just been seduced to believe we have been “melted” into something undefined as “American.”

    There is no such thing as an American identity.

    Over 70 years ago Gertrude Stein observed that “Americans” were not and could not be a distinctive identity because they had no distinctive language: French are identified by speaking French, Germans by German language, Italians by Italian language (i.e. one hallmark of Italian unity came about only in the 1300s when Dante wrote The Divine Comedy in what became standard Italian). But because USA rather adopted British language, ergo British English identity, the USA failed in the project of developing that most important of distinctive national characteristics, a unique language.

    In contrast, as Neal Gabler has described, Hollywood Jews (i.e. East European Jews) have defined “American cultcha” as that which those Jews imagined, and it has been imposed on the conglomeration of Americans by a combination of overbearing relentlessness and government funding/support.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    , @Richard B
  242. A123 says:
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    What is hiaku?

    Sorry about the typo. I reversed “ai” with “ia”.
    _____

    Haiku is a form of Japanese poetry.

    https://www.tofugu.com/japan/haiku/

    The rules require 3 lines of limited length and construction. Meeting these rules with even bad poetry is very difficult. I cannot fathom how the good poets pull it off.

    PEACE 😇

  243. @Fran Taubman

    Maybe replay the Nazi playbook with better luck this time around.?

    Which one —
    The one written by James Waterman Wise early in 1933, in which zionist Jews rolled out their demands that Americans learn to hate Germans as much as this particular clutch of Jews hated Germans? —
    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uva.x000417009&view=1up&seq=8

    or perhaps Theodore Kaufman’s magnum opus,
    Germany Must Perish!
    https://www.ihr.org/books/kaufman/perish.shtml

    or maybe you, Fran Taubman, prefer the plans and designs Eric Mendelsohn, “the Jewish architect,” and his fellow Jewish architects, in collaboration with Jewish Hollywood studio set designers drew up in order to perfect means of incinerating German “infants in their cribs” —

    German Village (from, US Department of Interior, Historic American Engineering Record HAER UT92-A)
    http://lcweb2.loc.gov/master/pnp/habshaer/ut/ut0500/ut0568/data/ut0568data.pdf

    ” Architects; EricMendelsohn [ConsultingArchitect, NewYork] . . .

    Relative density of furniture placement was considered significant. Because incendiaries typically broke through the roof to lodge in the attic or in the second floor apartments, . . . two furniture makers who had learned their craft in Germany and the Authenticity Division of RKO Studios in Hollywood [were hired to furnish the apartments].

    . . . Quantities reflected an understanding that some
    furnishings would be lost in the fires set by the incendiary tests, and would then be replaced in kind. In the bedroom,the single beds were placed together in pairs, with a crib ■adjacent, reflective of a young family with an infant.”

  244. Truth3 says:
    @Fran Taubman

    The POS sock puppet Fran Linda Taubman Rice is back to her old handle.

    Shit smells no matter what you name it.

  245. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Fran Taubman

    When the facts smack you in the face resort to violence. Wow that sounds like a threat. Moderator take note.

    You mean threats like: ““Why don’t you show up at the border fence sometime soon maybe we can end your misery?” comment #72 http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/israels-war-criminals-in-their-own-words/

    Moderator take note.

  246. @Johnny Walker Read

    The gatekeepers on the left are just as rabid, and any anti-Zionism on the left is mostly token.

  247. Pheasant [AKA "anonymous212"] says:
    @anonymous

    ‘Do those haredim mofers even know how to use keyboards?’

    They are actually famous for going into the tech industry.

  248. One Tribe says:

    The inevitable end of a secretive ideological affiliation, operating as a collective, which systemically games falsely assumed open systems to ‘harvest‘ ‘power‘ in order to gain comparative advantage within that (actively falsely assumed open/unlimited system) system, using a creed of hatred and discrimination as the main enabling cultural value.

    When all the hosts are killed, and/or the fact that the system in not infinite in nature can no longer be denied, these hyenas (apology to all hyenas, which are in reality, not so malevolent as these ‘humans‘) cannot stop applying their hatred and gaming tactics, but it is only one another who are left, thus the parasite completes the universal genocide, finishing themselves off last.

    The plague MUST be stopped!

  249. A123 says:
    @Ilya G Poimandres

    There are at least two major problems with your assertion.

    #1 — We have the current law paradigm.
    …. according to the UN Charter.

    Time flows and cannot be stopped by man:

    The Future Arrives.
    Becomes Today.
    Passes Into History.

    Consider this:
    — Current law in the 1920’s said that Jewish Palestine belongs to the Jews.
    — According to you — 20’s ‘Current Law’ became ‘Historic’ and thus not law in 1940’s. The body known as the United Nations was created and became ‘Current Law’. The U.N. stole Jewish land awarding it to Muslim invaders.
    — In the future, probably near future, 1940’s ‘Current Law’ will become ‘Historic’ and thus not law. The failed United Nations will be dissolved. The new ‘Current Law’ will abolish the U.N.’s obvious and blatant War Crime rewarding Muslim colonizers.

    Will you continue to stick with your “Current Law Paradigm” stance when the future creates new ‘Current Law’ ending the Muslim colonial occupation?

    #2 — the 70% Palestinian majority did not get to vote

    To be much more accurate you are speaking of Muslims not Palestinians.

    Just as the arrival of the Romans displaced the local amalgam of Palestine residents, the subsequent arrival of the Arabs displaced the amalgam that included the Romans. Each wave of arrival followed by intermarriage and interbreeding. A genetic melting-pot if you like that term. Given population turnover in the area, one thing is absolutely certain. There is no single, definable, pure ethnicity for the Palestinian region. Palestinian Ethnicity is a mythical concept like the Easter Bunny.

    If successful, intentionally mislabelling Muslims as Palestinians would have been an epic propaganda coup. Except, it was caught. Everyone now accepts the misuse of the term Palestinians to mean Muslims is an attempt to disenfranchise the 100% non-Muslim victims of Islam. “Infidel” inhabitants of Palestine were brutalized with rape, genocide, forced conversion, and Dhimmi Slavery. Complaining that a disenfranchisement movement didn’t get to vote is a bizarre stance on morality.

    ___

    The Muslim descendants of the Islamic colonizers are living on stolen land, but they themselves did not commit the original act. While justice necessitates fixing the crime, the current residents must be given an honourable relocation package so they can return home to Muslim lands.

    Current leaders of the Muslim Colonial movement in Fatah and Hamas object to a just peace, because de-colonization would diminish their personal power. Any viable, peace plan will have to provide ample funds and legal rights so that Muslims can ‘vote with their feet’ and voluntarily decolonize even though Fatah and Hamas object.

    So yes, de-colonization is the answer.

    PEACE 😇

  250. Pheasant [AKA "anonymous212"] says:
    @Pat Kittle

    How do you avoid making a type 2 error?

    • Replies: @Pat Kittle
  251. @mena

    I actually believe that Zionist ethos was genuine for those who followed it..they genuinely saw the diaspora Jew as a morbid identity … whether they had any chance to amend their identity is another question..

    • Agree: utu
  252. @Charles Pewitt

    Αgree to all you wrote Charles, except there is NO WASP ruling class, any more.
    Jews only rule the world.

    Also keep in mind that their actions have an effect in your pocket book.
    For example, after Trump announce the “departure” of this lunatic Bolton gas prices went down by 0.75euros in Europe, where I live.

    And as a reminder, be careful talking to these hasbara shlomos/sayianim on this site.
    They are hasbaraizing for shekels.

  253. @Rational

    If Moses was a hoax, then how about the cruel hoax/myth of Abraham, a crazy 99 year-old man who was allegedly told by god that all Hebrew males must be circumcised? This has led to incalculable, though unacknowledged, suffering among circumcised males for centuries.

    Unfortunately, American Christians in the 20th Century fell under the Jewish circumcision spell. Most circumcised males cannot be reasoned with on this topic. What was done to them when they were helpless babies is too horrible to contemplate, so they live in Denial and spread the circumcision cancer to the next generation.

    The world would be a much different, kinder, and better place if the barbaric rite circumcision was wiped from the face of the earth. Freud acknowledged that circumcision is a major cause of anti-Semitism.

  254. anarchyst says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    You are wrong.

    Whites of various nationalities BUILT this country.

    EVERY first generation ethnic group, from Irish, Polish, Italian, etc., that has come to these shores ALWAYS had a difficult time, was “discriminated” against, many times severely, and in general was not looked upon very well by those who arrived before them, BUT THEY PERSEVERED and DID take on the responsibility of becoming good American citizens and demanding that their offspring do the same.

    You can’t say the same thing about today’s immigrants, who almost always exhibit NO loyalty for their host country. It’s all about the money…and in the case of jews, power…

    It’s funny, the same thing also applies to jews, who have never fully assimilated (just like blacks), despite being here for hundreds of years, who hold loyalty to Israel and to the “tribe” above and beyond any loyalty to the United States of America, and in general, see the United States as their “cash cow” to be “milked”–nothing more.

    It was DEAD WHITE MALES who took government from being a master (where we are all subjects) to being a servant (with our rights inherent in being human) that are inviolate.

    The Constitution is the only document worldwide that places LIMITS on what government is allowed to do, to wit: “Congress shall make no law…

    You make the common mistake of judging those who preceded us by today’s standards.

    This is a common mistake that many historians make–judging the behavior of those who have lived in previous centuries by the standards of today…

  255. @hobo

    Like so many of her kind, she’s actually promoting “Anti-Semitism.”

  256. @Pheasant

    Do you think Ron Unz (for example) doesn’t deserve to be judged individually?

  257. @follyofwar

    Could this be the title of Bari Weiss’s next book : ” Is circumcision a major cause of anti-Semitism ?”
    I agree that circumcision is a barbaric rite , I am pleased to report that in the UK the National Health Service no longer funds circumcision .

  258. This is a clickbait fake article. Title says “the end of Israel” but there is no content re that event. The article is just bs about Israel politics. I will never read an article by this lying author again.

    • LOL: Twodees Partain
  259. anon[271] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Typical Jihadist talk. When the facts smack you in the face resort to violence. Wow that sounds like a threat. Moderator take note.

    Typical psychotic jew talk from an entitled cuntjew parasite. When the facts smack the noxious judensau CUNT in her odious jew snoot, she threatens grotesque jew violence:

    Fran Taubman says:
    May 21, 2019 at 2:10 pm GMT

    @renfro

    Why don’t you show up at the border fence sometime soon maybe we can end your misery?

    [Comment #71: http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/israels-war-criminals-in-their-own-words/?display=showcomments#comment-3227259]

    …only to then go running and crying to the “Moderator” when the person she previously threatened with grotesque jew violence gives back as good as he got from the vile jew pig, who can sure dish it out, but CANNOT take it.

    • Agree: renfro
  260. Anonymous[335] • Disclaimer says:

    Lol, couldn’t happen to a more deserving ethnostate.

  261. renfro says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Yep…….anyone who doesnt believe our government is totally infiltrated with Jews for Israel isn’t looking at out government.
    Anyone with complaints about US government should complain about the Jews who run it.

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
  262. Anonymous[335] • Disclaimer says:
    @Gilad Atzmon

    But what was anti-semitism born as a reaction to? Funny how that question never seems to get asked.

    • Replies: @renfro
  263. Skeptikal says:
    @Art

    “Or will a truth like 9/11, come out and destroy their hegemony.”

    This is what I keep wondering.
    Would a major revelation as to the culprits in 9/11 destroy Jewish influence in American politics and society?
    I do believe that Jewish culture is sooooo ingrained now in “American” culture that it is not even recognizable as such. One little example: The American addiction to constantly wise-cracking, instead of listening to what one has actually said. My theory is that this antisocial form of “conversation” is a direct result of the ubiquity of the tropes of Jewish standup comics and everybody’s desire now to be a comic—everyeone thinks they are funny for wisecracking instead of actually conversing.

    Just one little example.
    However, I cannot formulate an opinion as to what would happen politically, economically, etc. it it turned out—with irrefutable proof— that the Zionists had brought down the WTC towers. We know that the Zionists attacked the Liberty , and nothing happened . . .

  264. anarchyst says:
    @follyofwar

    The only way to stop circumcision is to redefine it as “male genital mutilation”-the proper definition of this horrific, barbaric procedure.

    When anyone talks about circumcision, I correct them by saying: “You mean male genital mutilation”.

    At first they are shocked, horrified and confused, but when I explain to them that it is no different than “female genital mutilation”, because a healthy, natural-growing body part is removed by cutting, I can usually get my point across.

    Let the jews and muslims whine over the prohibition of this barbaric act. It is long overdue to outlaw this unnecessary procedure in the USA.

    Jews and muslims that insist on this procedure being performed can go to Israel or a muslim country to have it done.

    As an aside, jewish “mohels” who perform this procedure, conclude the operation by sucking the baby’s penis…sick…and a good way to transmit STDs. Maybe that is why so many jews are so f#cked up.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  265. Skeptikal says:
    @mcohen

    “I read your article while having a falafel.Great restaurant that sells Israeli street food.”

    Falafel is not “Israeli street food.
    What an ass. Ass if you think this is true. Ass if you know it is not true but say it anyhow.
    I used to love falafel when I lived in NYC but had never heard of the Palestinians!

    Now I NEVER get falafel from these indigenous wannabes who peddle falafel, hummus, and other Palestinian and Middle Eastern specialties as “Israeli.” It is just another lie.

    Such cultural appropriation (Got that, cohen?) is also not unique to the JSP but is a typical colonial dynamic. For example, Americans appropriated and “acted out” Native American culture while wiping out the actual Native Americans–and their cultures. The settler/colonial Zionists are actually worse, though, because they don’t even give a nod to the source of their brand-new “Middle Eastern” culture but pretend that they thought it up themselves, while their jackbooted soldiers and Brooklyn-born settlers grind the Palestinians into the dirt.

  266. renfro says:
    @Fran Taubman

    The more Israeli trolls on the internet the more people line up to dance on your graves.
    You’re actually too stupid to feel threatened….you refuse to see your get out of jail free holocaust card has been canceled .

  267. annamaria says:
    @Anon

    “why can not the World Diaspora Unite and Call on World Judeo Diaspora to Levy a Yearly Income Tax to fund the State of Israel instead demanding that American Non- Jews having to do so on a yearly basis?”

    — This is an excellent proposition.
    Let’s see how soon the “Diaspora” issues deafening squealing “antisemitism!”

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  268. annamaria says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Check your reading comprehension:

  269. @A123

    [Comments lacking proper capitalization and punctuation are less likely to be published.]

    • Replies: @A123
  270. Anon[335] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Are you sure you want to quote a guy that wrote a book called, “On the jews and their lies”, lol.

  271. annamaria says:
    @Fran Taubman

    “Maybe replay the Nazi playbook …”

    — Your Bibi is no “maybe” as well as your Knesset that has been supplying the Israel-made rifles to the self-proclaimed Ukrainian neo-Nazi.

    Nothing pleases zi0nists more that murdering the non-Jewish children:

    An Israeli citizen Kolomojsky (a pillar of Ukrainian Jewish Community no less) was the main financier of the Banderite Azov battalion that became famous thanks to the Odessa massacre of 2014: https://www.counterpunch.org/2014/05/09/videos-and-photos-of-the-odessan-massacre/

    They chased the people into the building and finished them there. Two guys were clubbed to death with sticks. Is it normal? Is it a f–king united country? They burned a woman with two children alive. In the first floor this woman and two children were killed. … And the Media called us … I’m sorry but I will talk [to the media]! The Ukrainian [Kiev] Media call us terrorists. But the Right Sector [a Western-oriented neo-Nazi party, prominent in the new Kiev government], the wankers, chased us up to the roof of the builing. They threw Molotov Cocktails at us and cried ‘Death to enemies’.

    This is how well the Nuland-Kagan’s & Carl Gerschman’s plan has worked in Ukraine. Aren’t you proud?

  272. renfro says:
    @hobo

    The Jews are in a desperate pickle……anti-Semitism among populations is rising, too much of it and Jews get tossed out or holocausted again…….otoh, they need some anti-Semitism to exist or they lose their special people victim status and all the money it brings in.

    There is a big uptick and pulling out all the stops in tbe Jewish whining about anti-Semitism so I think we are seeing some tipping point…..where they literally get the government to criminally persecute any gentile who expresses any dislike of Jews thereby ‘controlling’ anti-Semitism and they win…..Or…..the public continues to become even more informed about them, becomes more politically active against them, publically opposes the politicians on them and in the end we win.

    I do see signs of Jewish desperation because of the increased activity on the net against them, the congressional Squad’s very public break thru in denouncing the Jews,”its the Benjamin’s baby’, and the ‘circling of Jewish wagons’ by even neutral or anti zionist Jews reverting to tribalism to protect the Jews.

    Full steam ahead folks.

    • Agree: Cloak And Dagger
  273. @annamaria

    Agree

    No Representation Without Taxation

  274. annamaria says:
    @A123

    “how histrionic the Iranian shills are getting here on unz.com.”

    — Your problem is, you (Talmudists) do not belong to European civilization and this is why you are not able to differentiate between your many “Amaleks” — whether your former hosts Persians (whom your ilk had murdered by tens of thousands many hundred years ago) or your former hosts Russians (whom your ilk had murdered by millions at the beginning of the last century) or your former hosts Germans (whom you tried to genocide to the last German after WWII) or the hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of victims of the ongoing Wars for Israel.

    You still pretend to be a victim. You are not. Talmudists are genocidal predators filled with visceral hatred toward “others.” Your profiteering holobiz schema has been exposed, but since Talmudists have no shame, people like you and F. T. continue quetching about special Jewish victimhood.
    Only the lack of shame can explain the success stories of Epstein, Wexner, Lansky, Krystol, Derschoviwtz, Kagan-Nuland, C. Geschman, Wolfowitz, Ledeen, and similar filth.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  275. anon[832] • Disclaimer says:

    End of Israel will also be end of Saudi Arab ,India,and possibly pf UAE /Bahrain as well. The gallery of rogues will remain in the horror museum for future wanna- be to be very careful.

  276. Malla says:
    @Erebus

    Yeah, I have been saying this a long time, Africa can solve the Jewish problem once and for all. Since the Jews boast of being the “aristocrats of Europe” and that without their genius, Europe would be a backwater, why not send this Jewish genius to Africa as aid? Jews are happy as no evul Whitey Goyim Nazis around, blacks get Jewish genius. Also Jews could manage all those basketball teams and hip hop “artists”. All they would have to do is look around and they would find loads of talent. Win Win I say.

  277. Richard B says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Drop the “White” label; it has little explanatory value.

    Talk about a “failed analysis.” You’re confusing Race with Ethnicity.

    I know that E. Michael Jones has made the same argument. Maybe you got it from him.

    Either way, not denying that when Whites interacted they often did so by identifying themselves as Irish, Italian, German, etc.

    But that’s a matter of Ethnicity. Not Race.

    Sooner or later one merges into the other and when it does, viola, you’ve got Whites.

    This is something people had been doing for ages, with or without the help of Jews, or E. Michael Jones.

    And there’s an easy way to test this.

    They didn’t bus the Irish or Italians or Poles, in Boston in the 70’s. They bused Whites!

    Just as Kamala Harris wants to bring back busing so she can bus Whites.

    [MORE]

    And when non-Whites attack Whites (as blacks did in Boston during busing and as they do everywhere all the time, which explains why Kamala Harris wants Whites bused to black schools) they don’t ask about their ethnicity.

    They attack them because they’re White.

    Or, as Chris Rock once joked in a routine, “Jewish, White, White, Jewish. You’re all White to us.”

    And, once again, as I said in my previous comment in so many words,

    Whites are being attacked as White! And they know it.

    And unless you’ve been living under a rock of the last 50+ years or more, Everyone Knows It!

    So, if they don’t defend themselves by Race instead of Ethnicity (like that’s EVER going to happen), they’re finished.

    To be perfectly blunt, your comment read like it was written by a JIDF Troll.

    Or, by someone who just watched an E. Michael Jones video and is simply repeating what they’ve heard without giving what you’re writing any careful thought.

    Either way, the comment definitely read like it was written by someone who has never learned to question his own assumptions, or think carefully about what they’re responding to.

    Hence your knee-jerk dismissal of everything else I wrote because you didn’t approve of the use of one word.

    Of course “White” has explanatory value. To say it doesn’t requires an explanation using the word “White.”

    That you couldn’t see something so obvious is the result of a paralogism, an unconscious violation of your own logic. It also explains why your analysis failed.

    That you then turn around and call my comment a “failed analysis” is simply an example of Projection.

    A little self-awareness might cure that.

    • Replies: @Robjil
    , @SolontoCroesus
  278. Ahoy says:

    @ Fran Taubman

    Your leader, Fran, just pierced the baloon of lies and misconceptions in all your comments. It loooks like he gave orders to the tribe to be ready for departure.

    Bon voyage!

  279. renfro says:
    @Anonymous

    To answer that question you need to study ancient history, and by that I mean the histories of Egypt, Rome and Persia mainly that are based on their own recordings of events in the ME.
    You will actually find very little mention of Israel except for some skirmishes with the Jews over resources of the land and Egyptian records dismiss Israel as an “out post”, not a kingdom of Jews, that both they and the Romans used to station troops at various times.

    The point is the Jews and their Israel settlement in Palestine were minor players in the ME, a very small tribe outnumbered by the major powers of the era.
    The Jews naturally lost all their conflicts with the larger more powerful groups.
    In the Jewish tribe the Rabbis, whose status depended on having followers, told their followers that they were warred against and defeated not because they just weren’t powerful enough to defeat their competitors but that they were attacked because they were ‘hated’ by the others because they were a special tribe. This was to keep the tribal followers from running off to join some other group where they might fare better and be better protected.
    THAT was the beginning of the Jews antisemtism beliefs.

    Iow, the Jews invented anti semitsm themselves from the very beginning. And it became their excuse thru out the centuries.

  280. anon[178] • Disclaimer says:
    @A123

    Little jew shill,

    As usual you are 100% delusional. Keep it up.

    “The Israelis must know that all this was caused by the stupidity of this man, who has only one idea in mind, to win the elections at all costs in order to escape justice for the many corruption cases in which he is involved” (When Nasrallah speaks, it’s prudent to listen) (1)

    Nasrallah: Hezbollah has no more ‘Red Lines’ Against Israel, all Occupied Palestine can be Targeted (2)

    If we consider the situation since last Sunday, since my August 25 speech, and briefly summarize the facts, what happened?

    1 – The border has been deserted throughout its length. For Israel, there was no longer any distinction between the blue line, the international border, and this or that disputed piece of land in one direction or the other: the entire border, whether it is indicated by a wall or barbed wire, was completely abandoned by Israel, and it was impossible to find any soldier on the whole length of the border. Neither soldiers, nor these vehicles that regularly move on the dirt tracks or asphalt could be seen along the border. We did not see anyone nor anything. It is only today that they began to reappear, our operation having ended yesterday.

    2 – All positions close to the borders have been completely abandoned. They did not even hole up in their bases, no, they completely abandoned them. They escaped. By God, it’s more than we expected. I told them to hole up, but they literally fled.

    Entire barracks were abandoned, like the one whose name has now become famous, the barracks of Avivim. A large military base, including a command center occupied by a large number of officers and soldiers, etc., etc., etc., was completely deserted, as a journalist (from Russia Today) showed: she went in and walked the premises, finding them completely empty (3). There was absolutely no one! Several barracks and military positions have been abandoned at the border, and sometimes even in the depths (of Israel).(1)(2)

    3 – At a depth of 5 kilometers in some areas, and 7 kilometers in others, special measures, severe restrictions, evacuations and travel bans have been put in place. Even in the settlements, as we saw on television, cameras roamed the settlements from morning till night and did not meet a soul: no pedestrians, no motorists, no motorcyclists, no bicycles, no open shops, nothing. Everyone stood still. They were all holed up in their houses, and the doors of the shelters were open. (1)(2)

    Things continue to look worse and worse for the jew vermin in Palestine every day. You can tell this is accurate when you see just how quickly the jew rats flee the moment they’re confronted by anyone who can fight back:

    Will the 6,000,000 jew rats Masada themselves in the Med? If not, where will all the jew vermin go when their almighty jew turd now festering in Palestine is eventually flushed into the sea?
    _____

    When the jew Rats all Flee — It fills you with Glee!

    PEACE 😇

    _____

    (1) http://normanfinkelstein.com/2019/09/09/the-israelis-must-know-that-all-this-was-caused-by-the-stupidity-of-this-man-who-has-only-one-idea-in-mind-to-win-the-elections-at-all-costs-in-order-to-escape-justice-for-the-many-corruption-case/

    (2) https://resistancenewsunfiltered.blogspot.com/2019/09/nasrallah-hezbollah-has-no-more-red.html

    (3) https://www.timesofisrael.com/reporter-walks-around-deserted-idf-post-hit-by-hezbollah-missiles/

  281. Anonymous[216] • Disclaimer says:
    @Robert Dolan

    Well said. Luckily, the pyramid scheme underwriting this parasitical relationship is running out of steam. We are living in interesting times.

  282. Robjil says:
    @Richard B

    A color term like White or Black does not relate to any original homeland. White term is used being for Europeans and European Americans alike. Same for any European descendants anywhere in the world.

    Asians are Asians everywhere in the world

    South Asians are South Asians are anywhere in world.

    Africans are Africans are everywhere in the world.

    Latin Americans are Latin Americans everywhere in the world.

    Middle Eastern people are Middle Eastern people everywhere in the world.

    They all can say they have an origin homeland by their namesake.

    Europeans are becoming minorities in their homelands. They can’t complain because of the white label. Colors have no homeland.

    That is the reason the white label is being pushed by our Jewish overlords.

    African Americans aka Black pushed to have the African American label as a back up if the Jewish overlords started bothering them too.

  283. Richard B says:
    @hobo

    The Bari Weiss quote is an excellent example of why Schopenhauer said that

    Nothing about Judaism can be confused with Reason.

    Marx, Freud, The Frankfurt School, The French Semioticians, S.J. Gould, Chomsky, Diamond, etc.

    It’s hard to think of a prominent (ie; heavily promoted by co-ethnics) Jewish intellectual who hasn’t been discredited or revealed to be a con artist in one way or another.

    The reason is that all of their explanations of the world sooner or later are hung on a thin tissue of vague abstractions (Antisemitism), glittering generalities (White Privilege) and absurd absolutes (Whites are the cancer of the human race, or Abolish Whiteness).

    The question to ask when trying to explain anything is,

    What is there in the real world that the word (fill in the blank) directs us to locate and informs us about?

    Try this with any one of them. I’ve done it.Works like a charm.

    The response is so patterned it’s become predictable.

    1. Poker face
    2.Knee-jerk and arrogant dismissal (as if I’ve just said something so unreasonable as to be not worth considering, ie; they’re panicking and the poker face begins to wear off or fall off).
    3. Unfazed, and maintaining politness, I ask the question again.
    4. They’re reduced to Ralph Kramden, Hamana hamana hamana.
    5. They go back to looking at you like they’re crazy.
    6. Undisturbed, I politely ask them if they could please answer the question.
    7. A nervous mix of poker face, knee-jerk dismissal and Ralph Kramden ensues.
    8. Conversation fizzles or topic is abruptly changed, by them of course.

    The point is that the common thread tying all of their sacred words together,

    racism, sexism, antisemitism, homophobia, islamophobia, transphobia, etc. are not real entities, they’re all categorical terms with no range or attributes except what they ascribe to them.

    In short, not one of them are observables one can point to in the real world.

    To test this just go back to hobo’s Bari’s Weiss’s quote.

    Or simply listen to anything they have to say about anything.

    Their problem is with Reality. It always was and always will be. Which is why they’re so dangerous once they occupy the seats of power, as they do now.

    Whites are their Designated Scapegoat simply because we have the strongest drive toward reality than any other race. A fact easily confirmed by a glance at history.

    Which is exactly why they want to erase it – completely.

  284. O.oIs it really a surprise that the nation-wreckers will likely destroy the homeland that was given to them? No wonder Jews fight so hard to make immigration acceptable in the West. The worst thing that could happen to any nation is that it would become a place of shelter for Jews fleeing Israel’s collapse. American whites have to ask themselves if they think Israel would take them and give them equal footing if America failed.I say it would do neither.

  285. Christians are the real Israel…. not some patch of stolen dirt in the Middle East .

  286. Anonymous[216] • Disclaimer says:
    @annamaria

    Your problem is, you (Talmudists) do not belong to European civilization and this is why you are not able to differentiate between your many “Amaleks” — whether your former hosts Persians (whom your ilk had murdered by tens of thousands many hundred years ago) or your former hosts Russians (whom your ilk had murdered by millions at the beginning of the last century) or your former hosts Germans (whom you tried to genocide to the last German after WWII) or the hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of victims of the ongoing Wars for Israel.

    Good point. Everyone who was willing to give them a chance ended up regretting it. It’s a tribe of hateful parasites who believe that hateful parasitism equals supremacy and mastery. Every gesture of trust and kindness is seen as stupidity and weakness.

    Only psychopaths can relate.

  287. @Pat Kittle

    I’m not sure why you think this site is an authority based on how many people scream and lie on it, but whatever keeps you from being around humans (not other humans, as you don’t quality) in the real world is a positive thing.

    • Troll: Pat Kittle
  288. @renfro

    You’ve gotten so much worse since your days at Daily Kos Dumbfo and I’m kind of amazed someone like you could find sub-basements to fall into. 2011 was a long time ago.

    • Replies: @renfro
  289. Art says:

    Naughty Naughty — Putin sends Netanyahu to his corner!

    Russia prevents Israeli airstrikes in Syria

    ….

    According to the report, Moscow has prevented three Israeli airstrikes on three Syrian outposts recently, and even threatened that any jets attempting such a thing would be shot down, either by Russian jets or by the S400 Anti-aircraft missiles. The source cited in the report claims a similar situation has happened twice, and that during August, Moscow stopped an airstrike on a Syrian outpost in Qasioun, where a S300 missile battery is placed.

    ….

    The Russian source said: “Putin has expressed his dissatisfaction from Israel’s latest actions in Lebanon” and even emphasized to Netanyahu that he “Rejects the aggression towards Lebanon’s sovereignty” something which has never been heard from him

    https://outline.com/eUVTas

    The End of Israel —- if Lebanon gets air defenses – end of story.

    Do No Harm — Art

  290. A123 says:
    @Michael1919

    [Comments lacking proper capitalization and punctuation are less likely to be published.]

    None of the commenters here have professional editors and proof readers. Even the some of the authors have made mistakes. You would be well served to read for content, not formal ivory-tower linguistic construction.

    PEACE

  291. @A123

    Yes on #1 but then you also have the problem of strict constructionism, or no ijtihad.. there needs to be a balance or the culture is dead and walking.

    The question of Parliament’s sovereignty comes to mind – it is ‘sovereign over itself’, meaning it is not bound by past decisions. But would you call ‘me sovereign over myself’ if I promised to stop drinking alcohol for life, but overruled myself a week later? As it is for the individual, so it is for the state. The Buddha says as much in https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://suttacentral.net/an7.22/en/sujato&ved=2ahUKEwjk56iwmNHkAhXlnVwKHdPFBsMQFjAKegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw1tvjkOvXRliA8E8L-cnwej

    But I think this applies more within a system and the world order is undergoing systemic change. You are asking to reverse the change of non-aggression, enabling intentional slow drip ethnic cleansing, and general terrorism for political or religious reasons, as the Terrorism Act (2000) UK http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2000/11/section/1 defines. Probably the highest aim humanity has every had is non-aggression, however only in the spirit of the laws of the elites, but there is nothing not aggressive about Zion’s actions towards the Ummah.

    Personally, I do not agree to contract being binding between thieves. Taking the land is taking that which is not given. Someone else has a claim to it, simple as that. And duress is off limits.

    I choose to label Muslims by their label – Ummah. It is not national but faithful. Palestine is part of it. Mohammed has his issues cause he took up the sword (ME prophets live through the collapse of its ecosystem, they are gloomy!), but they have a decent law, if an over-reactive immune system!

    However, ruling on these people now based on the actions of those people then – 75, 200, 1300, 2000, years ago, is too strictly constructivist for me. Experience is either suffering or learning. You learn by not repeating the errors of those around you and yourself!

    Anyways, half ramble over. I’m sure you can see the above says Israel has the right to refuse decolonisation based on the right to not be judged by history. I would say yes and no – yes because its birth was not the fault of the current population, and no because the current ‘only ME democracy’ is still very vengeful and bloodthirsty towards the Ummah, and Empiricial to the stuff around it, and more and more so. ‘The first cut is the cheapest’, as the prop traders sing!

    This is all major sidetracking anyways. The main pont – keep Judea and Samaria, just reform the faith away from the fascism of exceptionalism, that is a trade the world would accept for all of our benefits! 🙂

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @A123
  292. Art says:

    U.S. Blames Iran for Attack on Saudi Oil Fields
    Saudi Arabia shuts down about half its oil output after drone strikes

    U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo blamed Iran for coordinated strikes on the heart of Saudia Arabia’s oil industry, saying they marked an unprecedented attack on the world’s energy supply.

    The strikes shut down half of the kingdom’s crude production on Saturday, people familiar with the matter said, potentially roiling petroleum prices and demonstrating the power of Iran’s proxies.

    Houthi rebels in neighboring Yemen claimed credit for the attack, saying they sent 10 drones to strike at important facilities in Saudi Arabia’s oil-rich Eastern Province. But Mr. Pompeo said there was no evidence the strikes had come from Yemen.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/drone-strikes-spark-fires-at-saudi-oil-facilities-11568443375

    Kushner/Netanyahu/MBS get no respect.

    Clearly Israel is subject to these same attacks.

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Art

  293. AaronB says:
    @Ilya G Poimandres

    The main pont – keep Judea and Samaria, just reform the faith away from the fascism of exceptionalism, that is a trade the world would accept for all of our benefits! 🙂

    Ok, fair deal, but then everyone else has to give up their claim to exceptionalism also.

    Muslims cannot claim their religion is any better or more correct than than any other, and can no longer make distinctions between the faithful and others.

    Christians can’t claim the only way to salvation is through Jesus.

    Buddhists can’t claim only their system truly liberates from pain and leads to nirvana.

    Hindus can’t claim only their practices and beliefs really lead to moksha

    And after were done with the religions, no nation or people can make any claim to exceptionalism.

    The Chinese can’t claim they are in any way special, nor can the Japanese, etc.

    Wait! –

    You say it’s only the Jewish claim to exceptionalism, which is in many ways milder and more inclusive than the ones mentioned above, that bothers everyone here?

    I see.

    As in everything, when Jews do it even less its bad, when everyone else does it worse, its fine.

    That’s the way of the world.

    I have Christians who believe non-believers go to hell and who believe Judaism is illegitimate and should be abolished, lecture me that Judaism is horribly exclusive and tribal, when Judaism believe non-believers can go to heaven and that other religions can be perfectly legitimate.

    I have Muslims who conquered half the world and today seek to overrun Europe, tell me it’s the most evil thing for Jews to have settled in one tiny piece of country, their ancestral homeland, when the British ruled it, because that was land once conquered by Muslims and so must remain Muslim for eternity.

    And so on and so forth.

  294. geokat62 says:

  295. Mike Pompeo

    this man sometimes talks a lot and sometimes he is silent

    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
  296. Incitatus says:
    @geokat62

    “Incy, Incy, Incy, there you go again with your rant against parasitic 501c3s!”

    I know. Sorry, got carried away. But tell me what “Religion-Related/Spiritual Development/Religious Organization” ‘qualifications’ are evident in Milton Kapner? Help me out. Is saying “There’s a disease in this country. The carriers [Jews] have to be removed.” religious? What faith, what creed?

    Kapner can say whatever he likes, but why should taxpayers pay for this nonsense? Why should taxpayers subsidize AIPAC, AEI, and all the other alphabet ‘think-tank’-lobbying nests? Give us a hint.

    “Rather than acknowledging the power of The Lobby, you seek to minimize it’s nefarious role. This undermines your credibility.”

    Disagree. I’ve acknowledged AIPAC power. You’re disappointed I mention lobbies that contribute (equally or in excess) to long term problems. You want exclusively blame “The Lobby” and refine it to a “JQ”. You distance yourself from any answer, but let phonies like Milton Kapner suggest “removal”, augmented by the usual UR frothing lynch mob.

    My credibility? LOL! Posting on UR risks institutionalization for insanity. Check myself in the mirror every morning to see if I’ve had a stoke.

    “1. What do you think about the Barbara Lerner Spectre video? Was she being truthful?”

    Have no interest in Babs, no respect for her ‘accomplishments’; didn’t review, don’t know, don’t care about what she posted in her video (doubtless stupid); her CV dissuades me from wasting any time on her. Have better things to do. Sorry.

    “2. Do you believe that nationalism was the root cause of the Shoah? Does this justify putting an end to nationalism?”

    No, both counts. Believe in local government, checks and balances, nationalism as the natural outgrowth of local constuitancy.

    The Shoah was a slow-motion progrom, strip-tease robbery/torture/murder, scapegoating par excellence, a call for host Wagnerian immolation – reduced to industrial killing. Ironically (given the effort) inhibited fighting Reich enemies, achieving Reich goals. Barbaric and criminal? Absolutely! Detrimental to régime defense? Absolutely! That’s how stupid NSDAP leadership was. Couldn’t get winter clothing to troops in the East before late January 1942 (how many died from exposure?), but no problem entraining and killing Jews (and a lot of others). Leadership didn’t care about German soldiers frozen/starved for Hitler’s ‘Lebensraum’ fantasy.

    The murder of Jews, Poles, Ukrainians, Belorussians, Slavs, etc. was not the cause of WW2 – it was the result of a racist plan of conquest that labeled ‘untermenschen’ “a disease in this country. The carriers have to be removed.”

    “3. Are you a Zionist or do you support Zionism?”

    No. Don’t agree with annexing the West bank, bombing Syria/Lebanon, torturing Gaza.

    On the other hand, don’t support wiping Israel off the map (it’s there). Spent 70s-90s doing business in the Arab ME, lived KSA in the 90s. Think all must come to peaceful solution. Doubt Prince Jared will produce it.

    “4. Do you support the efforts of The Lobby to put and end to nationalism in the West by promoting mass immigration and mass miscegenation?”

    Well, you queer the pitch. Is that what “the Lobby” is doing? “Mass Miscegenation”? Really? Please give us a link to racial interbreeding “the Lobby” promotes. Beware – you’re getting into Himmler territory.

    Immigration should adhere to the rule of law. Want changes? Change the law. That’s my position. And enforce the law (including penalizing employers of illegals like DJT).

    “5. What do you think of the hundreds of organizations that make up The Lobby? I’m referring to the ADL, SPLC, World Jewish Congress, AIPAC, etc., etc., etc., etc., etc. Do you think their agendas are harmful or beneficial to Western societies?”

    I’m suspicious when so many groups magnify a very, very small interest. Generally disagree with them.

    Doesn’t mean I want them [Jews] “removed ”(as phony Christian Kapner advises). You’re being played.

    “6. Why do you think there has been a resurgence of antisemitism in Western societies, of late?”

    Sorry. Don’t care about “antisemitism”. If a Jew, maybe I would. I’m not.

    Called to speculate, I’d say some (like you) insistently post accusations attributing all evil to “the Lobby” (i.e. Jews). Classic scapegoating.

    6. [7?] What are some of your recommendations for addressing the serious issue of the JQ?

    That’s easy. Beware trolls with 501c3s, use your own mind, read history, decide for yourself.

    Not least, follow (or change by legal means) the law.

    “Speaking of facts, anyone familiar with the truth about the “Italian Mafia.” Well, it turns out it’s not Italian and it’s not a mafia. The truth is it’s a Jewish syndicate!”

    LOL. Thanks. Great humor, geo.

    Innocent Italian ‘Mafia’ controlled by Jews? S2C, Chuckles, L.K – do you buy this? Were your kinsmen that stupid? Give us a hint.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @geokat62
  297. @Al Liguori

    Before trying to be a catholic, you may learn to correctly compute and/or about history.

    • Agree: Fran Taubman
    • Replies: @Al Liguori
  298. frankie p says:
    @Anon

    Curious as to why a leopard is unable to change its spots…

    Curious as to why the scorpion always stings the frog…

    Just being realistic here

  299. @Richard B

    My bad.

    I responded using English language.

    Next time I’ll write in White.

    Yes, I have listened to EMJ make this argument/explanation, and it makes sense to me, but EMJ’s explanation just suggested an avenue for consideration, I’m not a mynah bird merely repeating his assertions.
    For example, I disagree categorically with Jones’s dismissal of myth as “nonsense.” Jones is in love with his own Logos dogma and is compelled to derogate explanations of organizing principles of specific cultures that are not based on his holy revelation. In my view, the notion that great masses of peoples in various places were stuck in non-logos until the coming of Jesus – logos makes no sense and dismisses much that has contributed great richness to civilizations worldwide. (btw, Tom Woods had a guest on who explained another ‘thinker’ who claims that the Old Testament – New Testament were THE defining book/s of all civilization. This is so obviously nonsense — is Chinese history & culture to be dismissed because it does not give credence to Yahweh – closeness – garden of eden — etc?
    Different cultures have different founding and organizing myths, and the Ho-llee Bi-ble is one book among many; contains much of wisdom and beauty and much of cultural appropriation and much of concepts that have proven seriously detrimental to human well-being.

    In my view, exploring cultures provides far more understanding of human behavior than does race.
    And no, ethnicity does NOT evolve into race: a person of Italian ethnicity does not evolve into White — if that were the case, then a distinction would have to be made between a Northern Italian, largely influenced by Germanic culture, and Southern Italians, with their mixture of Greek, Arab, and African. Are Northern Italians “white” but Southern Italians “Black”?

    “White” is a social construct that lumps widely diverse cultures/ethnicities, that are more properly identified and unified based on their shared language, myths, and history, into an indistinguishable mass.
    By your insistence, Jews must be part of that mass, White, but clearly, Jews consider themselves separate from ethnic cultural practices and history of Germans, French, Irish, Greeks, etc.

  300. @Robjil

    There are four colors of people, Red, yellow, black and white. Red people are indigenous to the western hemisphere, or the American continents, yellow people are indigenous to Asia, Black people to Africa, and white people to Europe.

    The colors are more symbolic than descriptive since indigenous people of the American continents aren’t really red, Asians aren’t really yellow, etc. but the color terms were once rather widely used, as in the song, “Jesus Loves the Little Children”.

    There’s no point that I’m making here, just an observation that this used to be a common perception, and each color of peoples included many ethnicities.

  301. A123 says:
    @Ilya G Poimandres

    Yes on #1 but then you also have the problem of strict constructionism, or no ijtihad.. there needs to be a balance or the culture is dead and walking.

    This is not dissimilar to where I was going.

    Man-made laws are ultimately a trade-off between among Morality, History, and Practicality. Laws can and must change over time, however attempting to create an obviously immoral law that ignores history is foolish.

    The 1920’s compromise that gave 3/4 of Palestine to the Muslims had serious moral flaws but provided adequate balance to practicality and generated something that had the potential to work.

    The 1940’s U.N. plan was an unworkable disaster from Day 1. It:
    — Rewarded immorality by using ‘current’ population distributions that resulted from generations of ethnic and religious cleansing War Crimes.
    — Failed to meet practical minimums for national security by insisting on indefensible borders.
    — Butalized individuals on all sides by leaving them without the means to relocate to their people’s side of the line.

    The 1940’s plan, much like the U.N. itself, represents “Hope Overriding Common Sense”. A phrase likely to be engraved on the U.N.’s inevitable tombstone. A number of respected and rational people at the time correctly warned that the 1940’s plan made a future war inevitable. However, the euphoria of the moment created a tidal wave of support that pushed it through anyway.

    I find it incredibly frustrating that the disastrous mess we have today was entirely avoidable. The U.N. created all this pain through incompetence, negligence, and immorality. This is why I find the sanctimonious preachers for U.N. supremacy so exasperating.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Ilya G Poimandres
  302. @Incitatus

    To geokat, The Grand Obfuscator & George Plimpton “I did it all,” InZitatus, wrote:
    “Innocent Italian ‘Mafia’ controlled by Jews? S2C, Chuckles, L.K – do you buy this?

    Hey InZi, above, you said “Innocent” Italian mafia,” not geo.🙄 Haha.

    So lobbing back, I ask, “Was your Civil War Confederate officer ‘kin’ that stupid to think Jewish plantation slave owners gave a fuck about possible emancipation’s temporary setback?

    You know what, InZi? I wish “Milton Kapner” makes a special appearance here and “gives you a hint,” haha, about my “Homeland’s” criminal Jewish banking mafia. As reminder, Brother Nathanael liked Maven Sam Shama.😏

    Caution: The following Real Jew News article can possibly rankle even the finest lot of ADL Jews who blithely assert: “Don’t care about “antisemitism”. If a Jew, maybe I would. I’m not.”

    Secrets Of Jewish Money Control
    Brother Nathanael Kapner, 11/ 5/2014 *

    * Uh, who is “Incitatus”?🙄

    [MORE]

    Whoever creates money controls it.
    The Jewish financial network has created money in the English speaking
    world for two centuries.

    In 1694 the Bank of England was established. Among its influential
    shareholders were Sephardic Jews who represented the practice and
    continuity of Jewish money lending.
    By 1815, with the Battle of Waterloo, the Rothschilds gained dominant
    control.

    It was the original Federal Reserve. Same Jewish proprietorship, same
    swindle. Both today are safely in Jewish hands. They had a secret. They knew that the world was becoming corporate—like
    the East India Tea Company—and industrialized.

    They knew that such a world cannot exist without government fiat money. They knew that bullion and private bank money were not enough. Such an
    expanding economy needed more money to survive on than just commodity
    money or local currency.

    Other people didn’t know this and most people still do not know this
    secret of successful money. But the Jews know it and do everything in their power to promote unsuccessful commodity money.

    That’s why they love the Jewish-inspired Austrian School which promotes
    private bank money which ultimately ends up in Jewish hands. The Jews pretended their Bank of England money was all backed by
    gold…when actually it was a mix but predominantly fiat.

    People bought it. Their shill, Adam Smith, helped them out by pretending
    that fiat money was not real money.
    Adam Smith hated the paper fiat money—”Scrip”—created by American
    colonial government that Benjamin Franklin and the successful colonists
    used.

    Karl Marx and the Austrian School also helped fool people into believing
    that fiat money was just made from thin air and would soon collapse. Their followers have been saying this for 200 years and it still hasn’t collapsed.

    The Jews had a second secret.

    Their secret was to buy politicians with the money they created and then
    blame government for the evils they were committing. This way they make sure that people will hate government instead of the
    Jews and won’t let it regulate their banking crimes.

    Their third secret was to bribe parliament—either through share
    distribution or other means—into borrowing the fiat money they created
    at interest…money that the government could have created itself for nothing.

    Since the invention of coined money by governments in 600 BC all
    governments have had the sovereign power to create their own money debt
    free.

    Along with the right to tax and make war, debt-free money creation is
    the most fundamental sovereign right of a nation.

    Jewry’s fourth secret is to pretend the government issues money instead
    of them. It’s really impossible because the government can’t issue money
    and then have debt to itself. Most politicians and economists still think the government prints our money because the US name is on it and it says ‘federal.’

    The final Jewish secret is to start wars and run up huge government
    debt—to them. And by expanding and contracting credit they run up the peoples’ debt. Your mortgage and credit card makes you a slave to Jewish bankers.

    In 1913 the Jews bribed US officials to set up the Federal Reserve to
    borrow fiat money from them…which we could have created ourselves for
    nothing. It’s the biggest scam on earth.

    Immediately they created the IRS and our entry into WW1 to enslave us
    with debt…and a tyrannical collection agency.

    America is a conquered nation. Jews are the victors. We constantly do evil for the Jews. We destroyed Iraq for Jewry’s plan for a Greater Israel. We want to
    topple Assad for them who protects Christians. And we’ve made Putin, a
    builder of Christian revival in Russia, our enemy…ALL for the Jews.

    How do we get out of this enslavement?
    Monetary reform. It’s the mother of all reforms. Without it, all reforms
    are doomed.

    There’s only one way. Do what the Jews most want us not to do, what they
    fear most: Taking back money creation by our national government.

    If we don’t, Jews will remain in control.

  303. @hobo

    ‘…Societies were anti-semitism thrives are societies that are dead or dying…’

    Contemplating this. Fifteenth century Spain?

    Yep: anti-semitic and on the verge of complete collapse.

    How can purportedly educated people concoct such patent nonsense?

  304. @AaronB

    AaronB!

    I knew there was another Zionist around here. Somehow I’d misplaced one…

  305. People who by choice never work to replenish communal needs of survival must either:(1) Rely on deceit, theft or extortion, or (2) Slavery.
    Sounds like familiar history…Go figure…

  306. Richard B says:
    @Robjil

    The question to ask about any word, in this case, White (as a race) is,

    What is there in the world that the word White directs me to locate?

    All you have to do is point to a White person. Done.

    It’s useful term. That’s why it’s used and will continue to be used.

    It has nothing to do with Jews.

    That they might use it against Whites is no cause for surprise. That’s what they do.

    Look what they did with the word “Diversity”, which was a word that emerged in late 18th century and was used by philosophers and scientists.

    Jews take words and use them against the people who originated them or who use it to identify themselves.

    Again, it’s what they do. So? Like we’re not used to that?

    They don’t have a monopoly on the use, just on the abuse.

    It’s exactly because it’s so easy to expose the way they use and abuse everything, from language to people, that they’re shutting it all down and working to abolish our basic freedoms – forever.

  307. renfro says:

    I may have just seen a pig flying !..Zio Kagan, husband of Victoria Nuland, admits a few truths about Israel !
    Of course I read everything about Israel with my jewdar deception detector glasses on and Kagan is also trying to make Israelis think about who to vote for in their election next week, probably Netanyahu since Trump today publically endorsed Netanyahu.

    Israel and the decline of the liberal order
    By Robert Kagan September 12, 2019
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/09/12/liberal-world-order-helped-israel-flourish-now-state-is-pushing-back/?noredirect=on

    [MORE]

    EXCERPTS:
    “What makes Israelis think if the United States were to cease supporting the liberal world order and began shedding the alliances it created after World War II, that the only ally it would not shed would be Israel?… And how would Israel fare in the kind of world that would emerge if the United States stopped trying to uphold the liberal order?

    Such a world would once again be a multipolar struggle for power and advantage, pitting Russia, China, India, Japan, Iran, the stronger European powers and the United States against one another — all with large populations, significant territories and vast economies. What would be the fate of tiny nations such as Israel in such a world, no matter how well they might be armed and no matter how advanced their economies? In today’s world, Israel is strong and successful. It outshines its weaker and less-developed neighbors.

    But in the world of self-interested sovereign nation-states, a world with no liberal community, Israel is a mouse surrounded by elephants, all clamoring for a piece of the Middle East. Would it find another powerful protector?

    The obvious answer is “NO.” Why would another country with enough problems of its own pick up or make friends with an American cast off that has been brutally and illegally occupying, dispossessing and expelling indigenous Palestinians for seven decades? Indeed, for any relationship to develop, especially with the Arab world and Iran, Jews living between the River and the Sea would have to abandon Zionism, withdraw from illegally occupied lands and agree to live equally, side by side with the Palestinians.

    Historically, from the Romans to the Ottomans to the British and French, the peoples of the Middle East have enjoyed only such autonomy as the ruling empires granted them. Otherwise, they were pawns and victims in a much larger game in which they were hopelessly outmatched.”

  308. Saggy says: • Website
    @Frankie P

    The early Zionists desired a Jewish State to make Jews human.

    And the tooth fairy is real. I can’t believe Atzmon would actually posit something like this …. it’s LOL absurd.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  309. @hobo

    They always bring up the canard of conspiracy. Independent actors advancing independently of each other but with the same goal may form an effective consensus, which can act to their group’s benefit and to the detriment of the larger society in which they live.

    A champion soccer team, because its member act in consensus, advance the ball against the opponent, not in conspiracy and, thereby, win. African bees will kill because, in consensus, they fulfill the biologic imperative: protect the hive.

    The consensus “Put the well-being of fellow Jews everywhere ahead of your fellow nationals” is sufficient to make them inimical to the well-being of the country at large. Conspiracy is unnecessary and beside the point.

  310. PaulSans says:
    @Flint Clint

    Flint Clint can you please point me towards where I can read more about this?
    When you said this website ,did you mean unz.com or another website?

    Thanks in advance.

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
  311. @follyofwar

    Circumcision really is barbaric. The thought of permanently mutilating an infant but a few days old should horrify rational humans. No one should be surprised that mental illness is so widespread among the adherents of a religion obsessed with the genitals of their baby boys.

    • Agree: follyofwar, anarchyst
    • Replies: @anarchyst
  312. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Parisian Guy

    Before trying to be a catholic, you may learn to correctly compute and/or about history.

    Before offering advice, consider parsing and punctuating your sentences for clarity.

  313. @Saggy

    ‘The early Zionists desired a Jewish State to make Jews human.

    And the tooth fairy is real. I can’t believe Atzmon would actually posit something like this …. it’s LOL absurd’

    Have you read much of the writings of early Zionists?

    • Replies: @Saggy
  314. Alfred says:
    @geokat62

    When I read nothing from Wikileaks that criticized Israel in any way, I assumed that was because Assange was a Mossad operation.

    Thank you for enlightening me.

  315. @AaronB

    Yes, everyone should give up exceptionalism!

    But I would quible on the psychologies of the different religions, and how they conceive themselves.

    Hindus say ‘truth is One, the wise know it by different names’. They think their world views provide the most accurate description, and superiority is rare. They have their beef with Islam though (don’t many! 🙂 ).

    Buddhists certainly don’t focus on I, Dhamma is just describing the world using ‘treat this as this and that as that, not this as that and that as this’ – it’s seen as the most accurate description, and superiority is rare.

    Christians caught themselves a god-king, a system of Empire instead of a Church, and there is some superiority to their actions. But they had one of the best moral teachers – whatever their (and his) metaphysics – so they don’t get many crazies going completely wrong imo.

    Christ said he would build his Church on people rather than stones, and I can see how that can be misconstrued with a superiority complex, even if he talked about morality – him being the Big G after all (3 is 1 and 1 is 3 and all that)!

    Muslims believe ‘there is no truth but Truth’, but the faith is only slowly accepting that there are many ‘religions of the book’ around the world now, so to say. I don’t see how obedience – slavery – to Allah creates any superiority complex though. It just accentuates human predilections imo.

    Psychologically, for me it is still the reasoning in Anguttara Nikaya 3.61 that explains away the violence. People who worship a primal cause worship determinism and give themselves a blank pass on their actions – the final limit of casuistry! All of the above that do, tend to have more violence because there is less drive towards an intentional personal morality within the system.

    But adding the psychology of superiority to the individual or group, within the writings, it being even divinely sanctioned within Judaism – it’s not just a blank pass on action, but a positive invitation to engage in it all. It is a fall towards materialism and hence avodah zarah.

    Faiths should be judged on how much they lead people away from materialism, so anyone engaging in fighting over land or words for them is not getting it. And for me the Jewish faith is at its core a spiritual faith with a materialistic bottleneck – intrinsic superiority.

    It’s when people go from saying ‘Islam is the best faith’ to ‘I say the Shahada so I am better than you’ that problems really bubble up, and the Jewish version of superiority jumps to exactly that automatically, with no choice given. To any extent other faiths have it, they should get rid of it too, but it is not so cast in stone for them.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  316. geokat62 says:
    @Incitatus

    I know. Sorry, got carried away. But tell me what “Religion-Related/Spiritual Development/Religious Organization” ‘qualifications’ are evident in Milton Kapner?

    Brother Nathanael converted to the Russian Eastern Orthodox Church. He has dedicated his life to his lord and savior, Jesus Christ. And as a devout Christian he renounces all and any use of violence. Being raised in an orthodox Jewish household, however, furnishes Brother Nathanael with a unique perspective into the Jewish mindset. Given how well known his videos are, I think it’s safe to assume that his work is not being hidden from the tax authorities and that he meets all the stated qualifications for being exempt from taxation.

    You’re disappointed I mention lobbies that contribute (equally or in excess) to long term problems. You want exclusively blame “The Lobby” and refine it to a “JQ”.

    Not true. If you look at my archive of comments, you’ll find many instances in which I lament over the power of other special interests, including Big Pharma, Big Banking, Big Bazooka, etc. But as former congressman Pete McCloskey pointed out, the power of The Lobby has a different order of magnitude when compared to these other lobbies. Why do I give primacy to The Lobby over all other lobbies? That simple. No other Lobby is seeking to promote policies that are doing the kind of damage The Lobby is doing to Western societies. To defeat antisemitism for good, The Lobby has taken it upon itself to push Big Lie #1, Diversity Is Our Strength. They have been pursuing this goal by the promotion of mass immigration and mass miscegenation. These two policies are meant to transform western societies from relatively homogeneous countries into dysfunctional dystopias. This is why I rank The Lobby as the number one threat to the West.

    Have no interest in Babs, no respect for her ‘accomplishments’; didn’t review, don’t know, don’t care about what she posted in her video (doubtless stupid); her CV dissuades me from wasting any time on her. Have better things to do. Sorry.

    Thanks for your response, Incy. It is quite surprising that you’d be indifferent to someone who has publicly stated that European and presumably by extension European- derived countries must embrace multiculturalism or they will not survive. If you felt strongly about the well being of your homeland, her admission of the leading role Jews will play in that transformation should be of major concern to you. But it isn’t, which is most peculiar. The only logical conclusion one can draw from this is that you truly believe a multi-culti future will be a bright one for the West. But given all the evidence to the contrary we’ve seen of late (London the stabbing capital of the world, Paris has been overtaken by Algerian thugs who have bragged that while France has once colonized Algeria, today Algeria has colonized France!). If you we’re concerned about the future of your children and grandchildren, these recent trends should be very worrying. But they’re not… which I find very perplexing, indeed.

    No, both counts. Believe in local government, checks and balances, nationalism as the natural outgrowth of local constuitancy.

    The natural outgrowth of local constituency? What the hell is that supposed to mean?
    Let’s simplify things. There are two forms of nationalism: civic and ethnic. Which do you subscribe to? Almost all of the non-European world embraces ethnic nationalism. It is only the West that has somehow been deluded to believe their homelands should be transformed into multi-culti hell holes.

    But I’m making assumptions on your behalf. Do you believe multiculturalism is something Western nations should embrace or do you think that it will be their undoing?

    Well, you queer the pitch. Is that what “the Lobby” is doing? “Mass Miscegenation”? Really? Please give us a link to racial interbreeding “the Lobby” promotes. Beware – you’re getting into Himmler territory.

    How many ad companies are there that dominate the advertising industry. Four, six? All on Madison Avenue? Have you noticed the content of the ads of late? Very inclusive, wouldn’t you say. The thought that keeps going through my mind as I’m being bombarded with these ads is, I wonder if these kind of ads are airing on Israeli TV? What do you think, Incy? Are Israelis subjected to ads where invariably a white women is paired with a black man? Something tells me that this is very unlikely.

    Immigration should adhere to the rule of law. Want changes? Change the law. That’s my position. And enforce the law (including penalizing employers of illegals like DJT).

    Change the law, of course! Why didn’t I think of that. Problem is, Incy, our Solons are all on The Lobby’s payroll. Don’t you remember what Joe “You Don’t Have to Be a Jew To Be a Zionist” Biden said about unrelenting non-white immigration to the US… it’s a good thing!” Try convincing these Shabbos goy to rescind Hart-Cellar. Not gonna happen. But we’ll leave the resolution to this dilemma for another day.

    I’m suspicious when so many groups magnify a very, very small interest. Generally disagree with them.

    Oh, you’re suspicious of them? The ADL/SPLC have been collaborating with the big tech companies to introduce a censorship program that is unprecedented in the annals of American history and your somewhat suspicious of them? That’s comforting!

    Called to speculate, I’d say some (like you) insistently post accusations attributing all evil to “the Lobby” (i.e. Jews). Classic scapegoating.

    It’s people like me who are responsible for the uptick in antisemitism? Do I have that right? It’s not the consequences of the policies (mass immigration and mass miscegenation) that The Lobby has been promoting over the years? You don’t think The Dumb Goyim is capable of assessing whether the multi-culti system that has been foisted upon them is for the better or for the worse? More and more evidence is streaming in and it is abundantly clear that the West has been once again sold a bill of goods. The first time they were sold the Big Lie that communism would lead to a utopia. The second time they were sold the Big Lie was that multi-culti would lead to a utopian future. But the reality is neither of these Big Lies were true. Who were the authors of these Big Lies, But, I forgot… I’m engaging in Classic scapegoating. Lol

    That’s easy. Beware trolls with 501c3s, use your own mind, read history, decide for yourself.

    That’s your recommendation for addressing the serious issue of the JQ? That’s it? Not very serious!

    Innocent Italian ‘Mafia’ controlled by Jews?

    I know, Incy. Another conspiracy theory. But give it another few decades and pay special attention to the Jewish daily Forward to see if they publish one of their typical headlines: “The Secret Story of The Leading Role of Jews Behind The Italian Mafia.” You can bank on it!

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @Incitatus
  317. geokat62 says:

    There are still a few honest journalists out there who are prepared to ask the tough questions:

    Clearly, Samantha was unwilling to answer his question. But if he had befriended her husband, ((Cass Sunstein))), and spoke to him in a Yiddish accent, he may have confided to him that just as Qaddafi and Saddam were eliminated because they represented a threat to the Jewish people, they tried to remove Bashar al-Assad for the exact same reason.

    • Replies: @anon
  318. Do you remember the article “Israel – The End” by Gilad Atzmon back in late 2014?
    Atzmon tried to ride upon the Israeli media speaking of Israelis moving to Berlin because life is cheaper there.
    Atzmon was speaking, out of wishful thinking, about how Israelis no longer wish to live in Israel, and how it is doomed to collapse from within.

    Alas, 5 years have passed, not only Israel has not collapsed, it is more prosperous than ever. Migration out of Israel is at all-time low. 15,000 Israelis leave Israel per year, 9000 return, and 30,000 Olim (Jewish migrants) join the Israeli society. That’s a 24,000 gain. Israeli society grows by 2% each year. The population will hit 10 million in a few years. Jewish population will pass 7 million.

    Just like in 2014, Atzmon is wrong again.

  319. Ahoy says:

    @ geocat62

    Hey, geo. I love to see you giving it to them on the Bank issue.

    The offencive against humanity started with the signature of the traitor Wilson when he gave the FED to the gang of Morgan, Rockeffeler, Rothschild, in 1913.

    After ww1 they picked up the bank of Russia from their man Lenin. Ever since then through wars, big and small, kept acquiring more and more Banks. Today the only free state banks are those of Vezuela Syria and Iran.Suddenly the Zion WH has discovered that these three countries are lacking human rights and democracy.

    The attack on Syria may have destroyed the country but it kept its bank. Other players have come up in the forefront and have put a stop to this blood thirsty game, for the time being. Russia and China is not Libya.
    P.S. An interesting event behind the FED story is that the oposition to the operation, by the thtree very wealthy men of the time, went down with the Titanic in April, 1912.

    • Replies: @Kalliopi S.
  320. Saggy says: • Website
    @Colin Wright

    Have you read much of the writings of early Zionists?

    Idiocy, but funny. Have you read much of the Torah?

    Deuteronomy Chapter 7 –

    When the LORD your God brings you into the land where you are entering to possess it, and clears away many nations before you, the Hittites and the Girgashites and the Amorites and the Canaanites and the Perizzites and the Hivites and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and stronger than you, and when the LORD your God delivers them before you and you defeat them, then thou shalt utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them and show no favor to them, ye shall destroy their altars, and break down their images, and cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire. . . for thou art a holy people unto the Lord thy God; the Lord thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto Himself, above all people that are on the face of the earth. . . Thou shalt be blessed above all people. . . And thou shalt consume all the people which the Lord thy God shall deliver thee; thine eyes shall have no pity upon them. . . And he shall deliver their kings into thine hand, and thou shalt destroy their name from under heaven; there shall no man be able to stand before thee, until thou have destroyed them. . . Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein. . . etc. Furthermore. . . Thou shalt not lend upon usury to thy brother. . . unto a stranger [non-Jew] thou mayest lend upon usury. . . And all the people of the earth shall see that thou art called by the Name of the Lord; and they shall be afraid of thee. . . thou shalt lend unto many nations, and thou shalt not borrow. And the Lord will make thee the head, and not the tail; and thou shalt be above only, and thou shalt not be beneath.

    . . etc.”

    • Troll: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
  321. @Davidson20

    If you google “fat f*ck”, up pops Pompeo at the top.

  322. Erebus says:

    It’s the End of Israel-as-We-Know-It because the End of the Middle-East-as-We-Know-It is in sight.

    The US’ long standing security guarantees have gone stale. Iraq, then Syria, and now Lebanon, Yemen & Iran have proved beyond America’s ability to solve. The Russians have proposed a new security structure under a combined Russian-Chinese guarantee. The Russians supplying lots of stick and a little carrot, with the Chinese supplying the inverse. It’s been circulating the M.E.’s capitals for several months, and it’s getting traction. Some, like Iran have bought in, but everyone’s interested, and some prominent players such as the UAE are very interested.

    Yesterday’s 10 drone attack on 2 processing installations in KSA’s heartland reportedly took 50% of KSA’s oil production off line, punctuating America’s haplessness. Both targets were well within range of at least 2 Patriot missile batteries and a mere 50km from the 5th Fleet’s home base and 100km from the Al Udei USAF base in Doha. If the Saudis hadn’t yet seen the light that everyone else sees, that should surely have brightened it enough for even them.

    Despite 100s of $Bs worth of Saudi and American surveillance and air defence eqpt in the area, “nobody saw them coming”, but everyone saw what happened. A(nother) massive, public FAIL that exposes the KSA as naked, and the US’ Middle East security guarantees as hopelessly inadequate for the new security realities that this sophisticated and audacious attack makes plain.

    In another development, having been told that Israel will no longer be permitted to violate Lebanese airspace to attack “Iranian installations” in Iraq and Syria, Netanyahu rushed to Moscow last week to beg for a reprieve. Reports in Israeli media say that his mission failed. Putin rejected N’s entreaties, saying essentially “Fool me once…”. Israel has finally bumped up against the Russian red line.

    With the Russians dictating security terms, and the Chinese dictating financial terms, Israel’s exorbitant privilege as Master riding on the shoulders of America’s Blaster is what’s coming to an end. If Israel can redefine itself as a normal country and behave accordingly, it may continue to exist in a re-aligned M.E. If it can’t, its position will be untenable and it will disappear in short order.

    Either way, the End of Israel-as-we-know-it is visible.

    • Replies: @Iron Lion Zion
  323. @geokat62

    Hey geokat,

    Was annoyed how InZitatus got his pebble-size rocks-off, haha, by referring to Brother Nathanael as “Milton Kapner.”

    No doubt, InZi knows a lot about what he wants to know & disregards the rest. * Nonetheless, will make the following valid point that he won’t like, haha.

    Ordained Orthodox and Roman Catholics often change their first name to coincide with Christian traditionals. For two of thousands of western Church examples, Pope Benedict, Pope Francis.

    Yes, maybe the Real Jew News Brother’s first name was Milton, but he changed it to Nathanael which honors The Christ’s having found the “guileless” Nathanael suriing beneath a fig tree.

    Haha. For me, InZitatus has no guile, and I know what an “anonymous” obfuscator he is. Thanks again, geo! Instead of flyweight Sean, is gallant to battle him here.

    * From Simon & Garfunkel song “The Boxer,” a (1/2) man hears what he wants to hear, & selah, disregards the rest.”

  324. anarchyst says:
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    There’s more to circumcision (male genital mutilation) than the mere act of removing a healthy body part.

    After the “deed is done”, the jewish “mohel” then fellates the infant, transferring whatever STDs the “mohel” possesses to the infant.

    Maybe that is why so many jews are so f#cked up in later life.

    As many STDs have very long gestation periods, even decades, mental illness among jews doesn’t show up until later in life.

    • Replies: @Iron Lion Zion
  325. @anarchyst

    Educate yourself better, not every mohel takes this practice.

    Anyway, about 1/3 of humanity practices male circumcision, Jews are a few millions out of them.

  326. @Saggy

    We have reached a point in history where a percentage of humanity larger than ever is now reading the OT as the rantings of murderous sociopaths.

    When I was growing up my religion teachers explained to us how the people of the OT awaited a Messiah who would lead them to a military victory, but that we now knew better. I wonder how many of those well-meaning fools from my childhood lived long enough to recognize that the OT misanthropes were still alive, striving to conquer the world and now had nukes.

  327. @Erebus

    Wishful thinking.
    Putin and Bibi discussed for 3 hours about how dealing with Iranian expansionism in Syria. Israel got green light from both Russia and the US to operate at this front.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @annamaria
  328. @Iron Lion Zion

    Many peoples practiced circumcision, but, thankfully, that’s dying out.

    What is the correlation between growing up to be a sexual predator and belonging to a religion that has genital mutilation as its first initiation rite? Considering that that was Freud’s initiation into his religion, no one should be surprised that he developed into a nasty, old perv.

    Then you have Weinstein, Epstein, Woody Allen, Polanski…

    • Replies: @Iron Lion Zion
  329. anarchyst says:
    @Iron Lion Zion

    “Educate yourself better, not every mohel takes this practice.” .

    Yeah, right…

    Removing a healthy part of a human body is ALWAYS wrong…

    Male genital mutilation is barbaric and should be declared illegal and outlawed worldwide.

    • Replies: @Iron Lion Zion
  330. nymom says:

    As erroneous as Israel’s policy seem right now I think they make sense if you look at them as a long term preparation for a war to come between Shia and Sunni Muslims…

    Israel is simply consolidating the territorial gains they made previously but never took full advantage of because they listened to people who told them they would get a better deal with the Muslim world if they were just patient. Now they see they were wrong. They will never come to an agreement with each other; at least not in any of our lifetimes and they just preparing for the future war to come.

    Whoever wins they will negotiate with the victor…and they don’t want future generations of Jews to suffer because they didn’t strengthen their position when they had the opportunity.

    Just my opinion, others will feel differently obviously.

  331. @anarchyst

    The practice which you speak of “, the jewish “mohel” then fellates the infant”, is not conducted by every mohel. This is what I meant. Some use a sterile tube. The purpose is to retract the blood back.

    “Barbaric” is depends on culture. A vegan person would say eating any product of meat on its own is barbaric while in Africa maybe there are still tribes which practice cannibalism.

    We live in a world of many cultures.

  332. @Kolya Krassotkin

    Is it really dying out? The author of this article, Gilad Atzmon, published just yesterday how Sunni Islam became the greatest religion in the world. Sunni Muslims practice circumcision.

    “What is the correlation between growing up to be a sexual predator and belonging to a religion that has genital mutilation as its first initiation rite?”

    I don’t know. As I said 1/3 of humanity practices circumcision. Try to find a correlation. Good luck with your research.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  333. annamaria says:
    @Iron Lion Zion

    That was in August.
    This is September news: https://www.newsweek.com/russia-support-iraq-syria-lebanon-tensions-1457449
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-september-12-2019/
    Here is more of August news: https://thesaker.is/attack-on-iran-would-be-an-attack-on-russia/

    Unlike your obnoxious Bibi and the likes, normal people prefer decency in international relationships. Zionists are ‘lions’ only when the US skirt is ready for protection.

    • Replies: @Iron Lion Zion
  334. AaronB says:
    @Ilya G Poimandres

    Well, lets look at Judaism and see what you object to so much about it.

    Judaism believes that every kind and good person who serves God will go to heaven, and that there are legitimate ways to serve God that do not involve being Jewish.

    However, Judaism is a special level of devotion to God, and anyone of whatever race who feels the call, may join Judaism and serve God in this special way.

    Just as some people are born Christians or Muslims or Buddhists, while others must make a deliberate choice to join the faith, some people are born Jewish while others convert.

    So far it seems to me that Judaism is considerably more universalist than those faiths which insist only their members can be saved, and I do not understand your desire to deny this.

    You say that religions should lead one away from materialism, which is of course true. However, since we are souls embodied, we need physical space to practice whatever religion we adopt, and the best opportunity to do this is among like minded people, free of persecution.

    The Dalai Lama certainly feels that practicing ones religion among like minded people in a particular physical space is hugely important, as he cherishes hopes for his community to return to their ancestral homeland and actively works towards that end. He certainly has not simply told his community to not focus on land.

    And certainly Muslims place huge importance on winning physical space for their religion – and not just one place like Jews or Tibetans, but as much of the earth as possible. And indeed, any area once conquered by Muslims must remain Muslim.

    Certainly, one can make the claim that one shouldn’t defend ones ancestral homeland using violence, but in practice, Buddhists have always used violence to defend their land, and there are certainly Jews who believe that until the Messiah comes, Jews have no right to use violence to defend their ancestral homeland.

    I think you have to admit you have an issue with Jews that isn’t fully rational 🙂

    • Troll: Saggy
  335. Skeptikal says:
    @anarchyst

    Totally agree.
    Furthermore, the idea that this procedure is the essence and represents the
    “covenant with God” is doubly sick and ridiculous.

    I believe the Santeria cults that kills chickens etc. as part of hteir “religious ritual” have been outlawed in the USA.

    Why can’t genital mutilation as part of a “religious ritual” also be outlawed. In addition to grown men sucking on male infants’ penises. Gross!!! Imagine a priestess publicly sucking on a girl’s genitals that have been mutilated. do they do that? I don’t think so. The mind recoils.

    the only problem with “going to israel to have this done” is that the existence of the State of Israel is also an abomination! Just stop the whole thing!

  336. annamaria says:
    @Iron Lion Zion

    By the way, how is the Ukrainian ziocon project doing? Still needs support from the Knesset and upright Israeli citizens like Kolomoisky to protect and arm the useful Banderites?

    It is amazing how quiet are the ‘lions’ of the ADL & Simon Wiesenthal Center towards the self-proclaimed neo-Nazi when the neo-Nazi can be used to materialize the ziocon hatred towards Russia…
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/ukraines-neo-nazis-stepan-bandera-and-the-legacy-of-world-war-ii/5373773
    https://portside.org/2014-11-20/how-israel-lobby-protected-ukrainian-neo-nazis
    https://consortiumnews.com/2018/07/05/corporate-medias-about-face-on-ukraines-neo-nazis/
    http://www.unz.com/tsaker/bibi-in-banderastan-or-the-importance-of-words/

    Holobiz in action.

    • Replies: @Iron Lion Zion
  337. @annamaria

    You’re falling to fake news, aren’t you?
    Just like with that “Israel spies after the White house” thingy. Fake News that were probably propagated by ex-Obama officials.

    Anyway, about Russia, its rhetoric is always anti-Israeli, but when it gets to “money time” Israel gets a green light to bomb Iranian assets in Syria.

    And that makes sense. Russia doesn’t need Iran in Syria, the more influential Iran in Syria is, the less Russia is, and vice versa.

    Israel is not only defending itself, it’s doing Russia’s work.

    • Replies: @A123
    , @annamaria
  338. @annamaria

    Sorry, I am not too knowledgeable about Ukraine and its affairs.

  339. Ron T says:

    Again Atzmon with his nonsense. The Jewish State is safe as long as its coreligionists maintain control of Congresss and the media in the US. When you have control of media, you can make black look white and white look black. You can have politicians lining up to eat from your hand and begging for your handouts. You can have Congress rise as one to their feet to give standing ovations to the prime minister of a small insignificant apartheid state in the middle east that engages in Crimes Against Humanity. You can shylock billions of dollars from American taxpayers who don’t even have health care and give it to your coreligionists so they can continue their racist colonial project of ethnic dispossession and ethnic supremacy. You can have the United States fighting your wars for you, sacrificing its soldiers and treasury and starving your enemies.

    One has to be realistic even if the facts are not in his favor. Atzmon is the delusional de jour.

  340. @Ron T

    Exactly

    imagine that a tribe said: -the god of my tribe is the almighty creator of the entire universe and the god of your tribe is a little idol

    people would laugh, but the trick works

    is the power of comedy

    And years later the congress of the united states stands up to applaud this scammer

    (the right thing would have been to applaud his lord on his knees as good servants)

  341. A123 says:
    @Iron Lion Zion

    … when it gets to “money time” Israel gets a green light to bomb Iranian assets in Syria. … And that makes sense. Russia doesn’t need Iran in Syria, the more influential Iran in Syria is, the less Russia is, and vice versa. … Israel is not only defending itself, it’s doing Russia’s work.

    You are 100% correct.

    I’ve tried to point this out many times, but the anti-Semitic fringe posters here lack the mental flexibility to process simple facts:

    — Iran and Russia are strategic competitors in hydrocarbon exports. Lower Iranian exports = Higher revenue for Russia.
    — Israel and Russia are partners in military technology. There are a number of efforts and the biggest one can easily be researched. The joint AWACS sale to India at $800MM+. (1)
    — Israel and Russia are tied together on a day-to-day basis with a deep web of personal and family connections. Some Russian Jews emigrated to Israel while others stayed.
    — Russian speaking Jews in Israel remember their former home fondly, and have a highly influential political party in their new home, Yisrael Beytenu.

    Objective facts show that it is in Russia’s national interest to side with Israel against Iranian provocation.
    _____

    There have been a number of unsubstantiated, single-source stories. Some saying that Russia is now blocking IDF actions. Others saying that Putin will deliver Yisrael Beytenu party support to Netanyahu. One would expect any major development in Russia’s regional stance to be broadly disseminated, not single-source leaks.

    Putin is a deft politician, and he has no substantial reason to prefer Netanyahu to Gantz or vice versa. After all, these candidates have identical foreign policy. It seems likely Putin’s message to Netanyahu was along the lines of, “I will not get involved in your elections. Don’t try to drag Russia in.” Though no doubt presented in a more cordial manner. No change in Russia’s regional stance would explain the relative quiet from both Russian and Israeli media after the leaders’ meeting ended.

    PEACE 😇

    ____

    (1) https://www.techapeek.com/2019/02/04/india-may-close-800-deal-with-israel-for-awacs-airborne-early-warning-systems/

    • Replies: @Iron Lion Zion
  342. @A123

    ATTENTION:

    commentator A123 = sayian (israel’s helper)

    • Agree: annamaria
    • Troll: A123
    • Replies: @A123
  343. @Ron T

    “You can have Congress rise as one to their feet to give standing ovations to the prime minister of a small insignificant apartheid state in the middle east that engages in Crimes Against Humanity. You can shylock billions of dollars from American taxpayers who don’t even have health care and give it to your coreligionists so they can continue their racist colonial project of ethnic dispossession and ethnic supremacy. You can have the United States fighting your wars for you, sacrificing its soldiers and treasury and starving your enemies.”

    Come on, you can’t speak of Saudi Arabia like that.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @annamaria
  344. Truth3 says:

    Tasks on the way to an Izzie Free World…

    1. Totally bankrupt the Western Jewish owned Media, by refusing to view it.

    2. Totally vote out all candidates for Office that refuse a “USA First & Only” pledge.

    3. Totally vote out any elected Official that supports Israeli Crimes (occupation, etc.).

    4. Total Boycott of all Jewish owned companies.

    5. Constitutional Amendments that eliminate the Federal Reserve.

    6. Truth about 9/11 becoming widespread.

    7. 9/11 Jewish Perps and Shabbos Goy helpers all jailed or hung.

    8. US Military invasion of Israel to free the Palestinians and secure rogue Jew Nukes.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
    , @Davidson20
  345. annamaria says:
    @AaronB

    You are preaching for a theocratic state.

  346. annamaria says:
    @Iron Lion Zion

    Well, if you insist: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/rights-groups-demand-israel-stop-arming-neo-nazis-in-the-ukraine-1.6248727 “Rights Groups Demand Israel Stop Arming neo-Nazis in Ukraine”

    Human rights activists petition the court to cease Israeli arms exports to Ukraine since some of these weapons reach neo-Nazi elements in Ukraine’s security force

    That was Haaretz or in your words, “Fake News that were probably propagated by ex-Obama officials.”

    http://www.just-international.org/wp/articles/israel-is-arming-neo-nazis-in-ukraine/

    Azov Battalion online propaganda shows Israeli-licensed Tavor rifles in the fascist group’s hands, while Israeli human rights activists have protested arms sales to Ukraine on the basis that weapons might end up with anti-Semitic militias. …

    The head of the Israeli arms export agency declined to deny the reports, or to even discuss cancellation of the weapons licenses, citing “security” concerns.

    https://russia-insider.com/en/politics/john-boltons-jewish-replacement-fine-gambling-away-20-million-americans-nuclear-war/ri27646

    New face of Israel? http://www.just-international.org/wp/wp-content/themes/just/timthumb.php?src=http://www.just-international.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/ukraine2-768×512.jpg&w=640&q=100

  347. @Truth3

    Rest assured they will be coming for you first, not for jail but for a straight jacket. No normal person could reconcile your list with normalcy. 9/11 Perps and Shabbos Goy helpers jailed and hung.
    Who might that be and can you prove it?
    It is fun to be a conspiracist and enjoy the fantasy. But when you make a list like that you are stepping into the red zone. Like boycott all Jewish business. Who in their right mind thinks that is going to happen.
    Most of the US like Jews and prefer them over muslim Jihadist that think like you.

    Earth to Truth:: Americans like the Jews and think the Palestinian cause is a big lie and scam.
    If you want to rescue the Palestinians raise your own army of Jihadist. America goes JEWISH!!!

    • Replies: @Al Liguori
    , @Truth3
    , @Art
  348. A123 says:
    @Patrikios Stetsonis

    ATTENTION: … commentator A123 = sayian (israel’s helper)

    PS,

    I appreciate your assistance.

    You have generated a new record time living up to my warning, “anti-Semitic fringe posters here lack the mental flexibility to process simple facts”. You produced deranged, mouth frothing, fact free hate in less than 10 minutes.

    Please seek help for your deeply self-destructive mental health issues.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Anon
  349. @Truth3

    9/11

    9. “US Military invasion of” … Zion and Saudi Barbaria

    On the one hand the Ziocon took advantage of the tragedy caused by a group of Salafists … and on the other hand …

    Zionist and Arabs Wahabi/Salafist share interests and bloody fantasies in the middle east

    the Zionist terror killed one thousand Lebanese and the Salafist killed two hundred Lebanese

  350. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Fran Taubman

    Most of the US like Jews …

    You meant that to be funny, right?

    Or did you channel it from the usual source of talmudic knowledge?

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  351. simply need to survive is not easy facing such ferocious predators.

  352. Anon[505] • Disclaimer says:
    @A123

    “anti-Semitic fringe posters here lack the mental flexibility to process simple facts”. You produced deranged, mouth frothing, fact free hate in less than 10 minutes.

    Please seek help for your deeply self-destructive mental health issues.

    Righteous anti-Judaic posters are “fringe” posters here? The primary and consistent theme of this site is anti-Judaic, as are the bulk of the posters here except for your lot to include your sock puppets. That’s not debatable.

    Advertising your lack of ability to process that “simple fact” and projecting your own status here is not the way to try to successfully prove the “mental health issues” of others but instead is a way to successfully advertise your own.

    Jews are known for willful delusion and denial of facts as any guilty psychopath will continue to do past the time they are strapped down with a lethal needle in their arm, and as your group has always done until it has been kicked out or pogromed by literally every other nation in the West at some point in history. Now that’s an impressive record.

    However, it still means that your “chutzpa” in denying and inverting clear reality does not make Jewish claims, as hostile parasites in their host nations, any more true than they have ever been. The evidence has been decisively stacked against your group by Unz’s articles, by the other articles on this website, and by the consistent rhetorical burials that commentators have given your little hate group here. Your denial that you are the fringe is yet another symptom of your group’s innate psychopathy.

    What is true is that your group will continue to engage in that behavior on the national stage until your groups next inevitable expulsion.

    “Mental health issues” are typified by your groups religious beliefs in your apocalyptic Messianic period that is slated to destroy everyone else, per your books. Rational behavior is recognizing those written intentions and treating the Jewish group like the psychopathic infection that it is. All that you have to do to stop that is to give up your psychopathic plans (the Jewish religion). You won’t and so we won’t stop defending against them.

    If you want to review specific Talmud and Zohar verses using only primary source citations then we can continue this conversation by doing that. You won’t want to do that and will instead circumvent by appealing to weak name calling that only you think is a rhetorical victory. Again, let’s talk about your religion instead. I’ll await your avoidance of that challenge using some excuse that is typical of the pussy that you are.

    Regardless, for you to not accept your presence as fringe here is another punctuation of the long running joke that is comprised of your posts on this website.

    • Replies: @Iron Lion Zion
  353. Anon[323] • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    There are so many half truths and lies in AaronB’s long propaganda essay that its not worth debating this liar on points that have been prior repeated directly to him and discussed seemingly endlessly. As Adolph Hitler noted, they come back the next day with the same lies as if the conversation never happened. This is a key reason why they get expelled and pogromed.

    Keep repeating your lies, dickhead. Their only function at this point is to cause those who you live among to go deaf to your poison speech. As America is currently in the process of doing and as any sane people would do and have done.

  354. Incitatus says:
    @geokat62

    Thanks for the detailed reply. Don’t have much time, will try to do justice.

    “Brother Nathanael converted to the Russian Eastern Orthodox Church. He has dedicated his life to his lord and savior, Jesus Christ.”

    Don’t claim to be religious. “Kick the Jews out of money creation”, “strip them [Jews] of their citizenship”, ‘disallow involvement in politics, finance and civil service’ strays from the catechism I recall.

    “Being raised in an orthodox Jewish household, however, furnishes Brother Nathanael with a unique perspective into the Jewish mindset.”

    LOL. Yea, he’s found easy marks on UR. Fish in a barrel. Love the costume, by the way. Is it deductible on a 1040 Schedule C?

    “Why do I give primacy to The Lobby over all other lobbies? That simple. No other Lobby is seeking to promote policies that are doing the kind of damage The Lobby is doing to Western societies”

    Agree AIPAC is divisive and corrosive. Disagree other lobbies are less harmful. Defense, Insurance, Finance, Real Estate, Health Care, Pharma.

    Numbers tell all:

    https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/top.php?indexType=i&showYear=2019

    “It is quite surprising that you’d be indifferent to someone who has publicly stated that European and presumably by extension European- derived countries must embrace multiculturalism or they will not survive”

    Forgive me. Let me be clear. Babs appears an idiot. No reason to waste time on her. There are many idiots, who cares what they say? I have no interest in her. Why do you waste your time with such nonsense?

    “The only logical conclusion one can draw from this is that you truly believe a multi-culti future will be a bright one for the West.”

    You’re predisposed to that assumption. Wonder why? Was it something I wrote? Don’t think so. Manichean ‘with me or against me’ debate mantra?

    “Let’s simplify things. There are two forms of nationalism: civic and ethnic. Which do you subscribe to? Almost all of the non-European world embraces ethnic nationalism.”

    Disagree. There’s economic nationalism (e.g. BDS, with which I agree), religious nationalism (Gott Mit Uns), etc. Probably as many forms of nationalism as there are humans and nations.

    What do I “subscribe to”? Don’t think in those terms. Sorry. Have enough trouble figuring out what’s good or bad. Simpler is better, leave off the labels.

    As for the European vs. non-European horde that seems your nightmare? What can I say?

    Have you lost the ability to judge an individual with different origins? Blinded by ideology? Rewind to Milton Kapner. He puts all Jews in one category, wants to strip them of rights. Next stop? Camps.

    Easy damnation of whole peoples [Freemasons, Gypsies, Jews, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Confessing Church, RCs, handicapped, etc.] slaughtered millions in the 20C. “Devout Christian” Milt sings the same song. That’s what I worry about

    “The natural outgrowth of local constituency? What the hell is that supposed to mean?”

    Nationalism should be the ‘Commonwealth’ (look up Virginia and Massachusetts state constitutions). A form of government that defines, protects and is built on individual rights; consensus that produces governance worthy of/dependent on constituents. Checks and balances. Imperfect, but inherently correctible. Pretty simple, really.

    “The ADL/SPLC have been collaborating with the big tech companies to introduce a censorship program that is unprecedented in the annals of American history and your somewhat suspicious of them? That’s comforting!”

    Don’t doubt it. Kindly post evidence of that collaboration.

    “It’s people like me who are responsible for the uptick in antisemitism? Do I have that right? It’s not the consequences of the policies (mass immigration and mass miscegenation) that The Lobby has been promoting over the years?”

    Don’t care about the “antisemitism” canard, never used it. Don’t know about ‘people like you’. You certainly seem fixed on ‘The Lobby’ and, that mentioned, wrap yourself in such labels. Why are you so defensive?

    “the serious issue of the JQ?”

    How’s pace-maker Dick Cheney doing, with puppet clone hawk daughter Liz intent on sending us into another war? The slaughter in Yemen?

    Your “JQ” is a direct transplant of NSDAP Germany’s ‘Judenfrage’. Need one remind you how that ended?

    Scapegoating rarely ends well. Licenses the inept, extends their tenure, magnifies the disasters they create. Just my opinion.

    PS. As for 501c3 Bro Nathan Milton Kapner, look up Father Charles Coughlin, born in Ontario, college in Toronto; ‘Social Justice’. Interesting

    • Replies: @geokat62
  355. @Iron Lion Zion

    We definitely have another Zionist.

    I would say welcome, ‘Iron Lion Zion’ — but you’re not.

  356. @annamaria

    Well, if you insist: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/rights-groups-demand-israel-stop-arming-neo-nazis-in-the-ukraine-1.6248727 “Rights Groups Demand Israel Stop Arming neo-Nazis in Ukraine”

    That was Haaretz or in your words, “Fake News that were probably propagated by ex-Obama officials.”

    You seem to mix-up my words, buddy.
    I said “Fake News” on the reports Russia shut Lebanese/Syrian/Iraqi airspace to Israeli attacks.
    My comment about “ex-Obama officials” referred to the report about Israel tapping the White House.

    As for Ukraine, as I replied to you, I have no good knowledge about the affairs in this country. Only superficial stuff. Now, when I look into the Haaretz link you posted, it suggests that weapons delivered to Ukraine end up in the hands of this Azov Battalion. In other words, it’s not direct delivery to the said battalion, but a distribution by Ukraine itself.

    Clearly, having Israeli weapons ending up in these guys’ hands is not a good thing, I agree with the rights group in this matter.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  357. @A123

    There is also no reason for a sudden policy shift for Russia.
    As long as Russian assets don’t get hit in Syria, I think the Russians are pretty much OK with Israel taking out of these Iranian assets.

    They have to do it one way or another, after all.

    • Replies: @A123
  358. @annamaria

    You seem to be mixing-up what I said, is it in purpose?

    I said “Fake News” on your claims Russia shut down Lebanese/Syrian airspace to Israeli aircraft.
    I said “Fake News by ex-Obama officials” on the claims Israel tapped the White House.

    About Ukraine, as I replied to you and said, I have no good knowledge of this country and its affairs.
    However, your Haaretz link suggests Israel did not arm Azov Battalion directly, but actually armed the Ukrainian armed forces, which on their own behalf distributed it to the Azov Battalion.

    No dobut, Israeli weapons should not get to the hands of the Azov Battalion, I am with the rights groups on this matter.

  359. @Anon

    If you want to review specific Talmud and Zohar verses using only primary source citations then we can continue this conversation by doing that.

    Most of these Talmud/Zohar verses are either fake, distorted or taken out of context.
    You better know.

  360. annamaria says:
    @Iron Lion Zion

    “You can have Congress rise as one to their feet to give standing ovations to the prime minister of a small insignificant apartheid state in the middle east that engages in Crimes Against Humanity”
    — The “small insignificant apartheid state” is Israel. You were badly misinformed by the well-paid hasbarists — there have been no records of the zionized US congress giving standing ovations to Saudis.

    “…billions of dollars from American taxpayers who don’t even have health care and give it to your coreligionists so they can continue their racist colonial project of ethnic dispossession and ethnic supremacy.”
    — This is about the “most victimized” Talmudists who proved to be fantastically adept at using a profiteering schema of holobiz.

    • Replies: @Iron Lion Zion
  361. annamaria says:
    @Iron Lion Zion

    I am not interested in discussing “Israel tapping the White House” — there is nothing new about that.

    You are trying to convince the readers of UnzReview that Russians have been acting in concert with Israeli interests in the Middle East. What if your opinion suffers from a superficial reading of available information?

    Back to what you call “Fake news:” https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Russia-prevents-Israeli-airstrikes-in-Syria-601618 “RUSSIA PREVENTS ISRAELI AIRSTRIKES IN SYRIA” — published by Jerusalem Post.

    The Russian source said: “Putin has expressed his dissatisfaction from Israel’s latest actions in Lebanon,” and even emphasized to Netanyahu that he “rejects the aggression towards Lebanon’s sovereignty,” something which had never been heard from him. Putin further stated that someone is cheating him in regards to Syria and Lebanon, and that he will not let it go without a response. According to him, Netanyahu was warned not to strike such targets in the future.

    Published by Haaretz:

    Assad’s forces, aided by Russian air power, have regained control of most lands lost in the war. In recent months, Assad’s forces have attacked Idlib, where Syrian and foreign radical fighters hold sway alongside other more moderate factions. https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/leaders-of-turkey-russia-iran-set-to-tackle-syria-turmoil-1.7843669

    Israel has been caught on supporting “moderate terrorists” of ISIS and the likes fighting against the sovereign state of Syria, whereas Russians have been supporting another side.
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/guess-who-is-behind-the-islamic-state-israeli-colonel-caught-with-is-pants-down/5491582
    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/07/syria-for-the-third-time-israel-falsely-claims-iran-pull-back-deal-with-russia-.html

    • Replies: @Iron Lion Zion
  362. A123 says:
    @Iron Lion Zion

    Yes. We agree.

    Brace yourself for attacks by the pro-violence shills and that are paid by the Iranian disinformation corps. To an Iranian Shia…. Telling the truth is an offense that must be met with histrionics, deception, or the twofer histrionic deception.

    I see you have already been insulted by Colin “The Fact Free Troll” Wright. He always uses the very predictable tactic of mass volume posting in an attempt of intimidate. Fortunately, he is exceedingly weak. Simply, ignore him and he will soon surrender to your intellectual superiority. FYI: He has beaten our host, Mr. Unz’s technology and has a 2nd alter-ego account “AnonStarter” that he regularly uses to agree with himself.

    More childish attacks will soon be forthcoming. truth3 will strain every one of his miniscule number of brain cells in an attempt to find an insult. I would suggest that he will try to brand you “Rusty Lying Zion”, but that is almost certainly overestimating his cognitive abilities. Additional liars that will no doubt turn up to plague you are taqiyya talha, warmonger art, and lol the incoherent. Ignore these trolls or debunk them…. Your choice. But do not be dissuaded, distracted, or discouraged by them.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  363. @annamaria

    Israel is probably the best investment the US can have in the Middle-East. Not military incompetent like the Saudis, or unstable like the Turks. Plus, Israel is a technological stronghold.
    US foreign aid funds are about 1% of the federal budget, and the funds dedicated to Israel are 0.1% of the federal budget. Plus, most of the aid funds given to Israel are returning to the US, as they are obligated for US weapons and tech. The percentile of funds dedicated to buying US tech is gradually raising from 74 to 100. Israel is the only country that receives US aid funds that is obligated to such condition.

    Fair deal to both sides. Maybe a bit unfair to Israel.

    • LOL: Kolya Krassotkin
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  364. @annamaria

    And I doubt these reports about Putin. They may come from opposition inside Israel who wish to present Netanyahu in bad light towards the incoming elections or maybe they come from the Russian MoD which is, in contrary to the Russian government, more in favor of Iran.

    Remember the incident in September 2018, where Syrian AA acted carelessly amid Israeli attack and downed a Russian IL-20 aircraft. After this incident the Russian MoD was eager to shut down the Syrian airspace to Israel, but good ties between Netanyahu and Putin prevented it.

    Both leaders have a mutual interest that Israeli attacks on Iranian assets will take place. Maybe Putin warned Netanyahu about attacking inside Lebanon specifically, as this has a more of explosive potential.

    About Israel behind ISIS, your sources are fringe websites, and Yusi Oulen Shahak is not even a reasonable Israeli name.

  365. @Iron Lion Zion

    ‘Israel is probably the best investment the US can have in the Middle-East…’

    Good one, dude.

    • Replies: @Iron Lion Zion
  366. @A123

    ‘…Simply, ignore him and he will soon surrender to your intellectual superiority…’

    At least learn how to punctuate a sentence.

    • Troll: A123
    • Replies: @A123
  367. God, Zionists make me gag. I’m trying to think of a more repellant set of people…drawing a complete blank.

    • Replies: @renfro
  368. ‘…truth3 will strain every one of his miniscule number of brain cells in an attempt to find an insult. I would suggest that he will try to brand you “Rusty Lying Zion”…’

    Aww, that’s not very good.

    ‘Lyin’ Zion Cryin”?

    After all, we either get the mighty amoral Jewish ubermensch or grotesquely misplaced whining. Of course, ‘Lion’ may be going for the He-Jew look.

    Which one is it, Lyin’?

  369. https://christiantruthproject.com/american-israeli-crimes-against-humanity/

    [MORE]

    The demented behavior that condones murder, theft and the destruction of others represents a phenomenon known as the nation-state exceptionalism syndrome.

    The unprecedented crimes against humanity that have occurred around the world are deplorable. The Zionist Master Plan for World Domination is at the heart of this chaos through a continual barrage of bloodshed and war.

    God is not a partner to the judeo-christian deceivers in the false church, and their many blind followers who are apathetic towards this iniquity. There is a unique relationship between Israel and America that is truly demonic.

    America the strong arm of the Great Whore, has murdered tens of millions of innocent people since the start of World War two and has ruined much of the civilized world in the process.

    The identity of the Great Whore is revealed through observing how she interacts with those around her. Her leaders are like unto wolves that devour their prey. These people use oppression on the poor and those in need, and they are without compassion. They take what is not rightfully theirs, and with great cruelty trample down those around them unnecessarily. They are also quick to shed blood and love dishonest gain which is covetousness. They are guilty of breaking all of the commandments of Moses and worthy of God’s wrath (Ezek 22:24-30).

    These crimes against humanity, as recorded in Ezekiel chapter twenty-two describe the characteristics of a modern day nation that almost completely controls America today.

    Ezek 22:31 Therefore have I poured out mine indignation upon them; I have consumed them with the fire of my wrath: their own way have I recompensed upon their heads, saith the Lord GOD.

    Pour out my indignation and consume with the fire of my wrath, is a better translation of the message in Ezek 22:31. The words, therefore, as well as have I, are added without warrant suggesting that this wrath has already taken place.

  370. @Al Liguori

    No I know a lot of Americans.
    They hate Muslim Jihadist.
    What is that meme about? I cannot understand it.
    That is really kinky stuff. Only you sicko Catholics could show stuff like that.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  371. @Iron Lion Zion

    What article by Atzmon about Suni Islam?

    • Replies: @Iron Lion Zion
  372. renfro says:
    @Colin Wright

    Why do you bother with the trolls? Their time is running out soon anyway.

    From CNN Poll on Antisemitism
    …..
    *Nearly one in five said anti-Semitism in their countries was a response to the everyday behavior of Jewish people.
    *A third of people CNN surveyed said that Israel uses the Holocaust to justify its actions, with half the respondents in Poland agreeing. Only one in five disagreed.
    *A third of Europeans said that Jews use the Holocaust to advance their own positions or goals.
    *Across Europe, half of respondents said they know “a fair amount” about the Holocaust, while only one out of five people said they know “a great deal.”
    *A survey carried out on behalf of the Claims Conference earlier this year found that 10% of American adults were not sure they’d ever heard of the Holocaust, rising to one in five millennials.
    *Majority of millennials could not name a single concentration camp, and 45% of all American adults failed to do so.)
    *About one in twenty Europeans said they never heard of the holocaust.
    *A third of Europeans said supporters of Israel use accusations of anti-Semitism to shut down criticism of Israel, while only one in 10 said that was not true.
    *A third of Europeans said commemorating the Holocaust distracts from other atrocities today, with higher than average numbers of Germans, Austrians, Poles and Hungarians stating that
    *In Poland and Hungary, about four out of 10 people said Jews have too much influence in business and finance around the world.
    *Roughly one out of three people there said Jews were too influential in political affairs around the world, and more than a quarter of Poles and Hungarians said they had too much influence on the media.
    *A third of Austrians said Jews have too much influence in finance, while a quarter of French and German respondents said so
    *Anti-Semitic attacks worldwide rose 13 percent in 2018 from the previous year, with the highest number of incidents reported in major Western democracies including the United States, France, Britain and Germany
    *According to the numbers provided by the ADL to CNN, in a disturbing trend, 2017 saw almost 2,000 Anti-Semitic incidents, an increase of 57%
    *The Post Holocaust image of the Jew remains one of greediness, thirst for political and economic power, egocentric behavior, pulling all strings in its favor.
    *The image of the post-Holocaust Jew and Israeli, who is no more a martyr, but rather a cruel anti-Christ, comparable to the Nazis and to ISIS, as radical Muslims and leftist activists claim.
    *The word “Jew” is again a pejorative nick-name in number of languages.

  373. A123 says:
    @Colin Wright

    At least learn how to punctuate a sentence.

    *Sigh* I should have said high volume, incompetent, and illiterate.

    This a complete sentence.
    — “Ignore him and he will soon surrender to your intellectual superiority.”

    As you are so smart what is the English language rule for preceding a complete sentence with a conjunction or modifier? Could it be…. placing the modifier or conjunction first followed by a comma? *gasp*

    To help you achieve elementary school grammar competency, here is Schoolhouse Rock “Conjunction Junction”:

    Once you master 1st grade conjunctions, we can work on more advanced skills including modifiers.

    PEACE 😇

    • Troll: Colin Wright
  374. @Fran Taubman

    He shared this on his Facebook

    Posted by Gilad Atzmon on Saturday, 14 September 2019

    That’s a lot of circumcision-practicers.

    • LOL: Fran Taubman
  375. @Colin Wright

    Find me a better one.
    Turkey? Erdogan just bought S-400 from Russia, against US interests. And he is cracking down on Kurds, who are by themselves a US-ally.
    The Turks are not very trustful, then. I also remember evacuation of American families from Turkey, including from the Incirlik military base.

    https://www.rt.com/usa/337673-pentagon-turkey-evacuating-families/

    Saudi Arabia?
    Good luck with that. They lost half their economy to drone attack and they ain’t doing good in Yemen.

    Iraq?
    How many billions you already poured into this malfunctioning country? You’re basically fixing it just for Iran to taker over it eventually.

    Egypt?
    Well, you’re already aiding it with 1.5 billion $ a year. But they go and buy Russian weapons. Great. Anyway, Egypt is collapsing under the weight of its population. They are about 100 million people there, and each year the population is growing by 2 million. The country is becoming unsustainable.

    Iran?
    And maybe you want to break the traditional US support of Israel and the Sunni countries and shift to Iran? Well, good luck. That would end US ties with the Sunni-Arab World. And what you’d gain for that?

    And you got Israel, which is a technological greenhouse, which highly benefits the US economy. You got a silicon valley in Califronia, and you got another one in Tel-Aviv. Israel also proven for decades over and over that it has the capabilities to defend itself. Israel also got the best intelligence in the world. A good investment indeed.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @annamaria
  376. renfro says:
    @Sorrow Road

    I am not the Dailykos type so if there’s a renfro there its a different renfro,
    I doubt there is though , looking at your very few comments you just make stuff up about posters here and throw it out .

  377. @Iron Lion Zion

    ‘Find me a better one…’

    If you would just link to your list of hasbara talking points, it would save time.

    • Replies: @Iron Lion Zion
  378. @Fran Taubman

    ‘…Only you sicko Catholics could show stuff like that.’

    But of course anti-semitism is repellant.

  379. @AaronB

    It’s just the psychology of the matter. Just like Israel is a massive Stanford prison experiment where both the Palestinians and the Israelis suffer, so does saying ‘I am chosen by God’ limit one’s possible reasoned critique of one’s actions (it also denies Copernican relativity).

    I agree that many faiths need reform – personally theravada has moved into ritual against the advice of the Buddha, and few read the discourses, which makes it not even the original thing really?!

    But that is an issue that doesn’t pop up much because few states are particularly theocratic. We are dealing with a nation that occupies the international law stage. Islam has some theocraric states, Bhutan and the Holy See, and that’s about it.

    Netanyahu says Israel’s laws should be based on the Talmud. Sure it’s only ‘based on’, but Jewish Law is apartheid within the boundaries of Israel, correct? How to square that circle with current international law?

  380. @A123

    I see this as a bigger problem though – to overturn the last update to the system established at the Peace of Westphalia, where aggression had been banned. Granted it is in name only for now, but we haven’t had major flare ups. Armies have a limited and naturally neutral role now, since only defense and suppression of rebellion are valid tasks, and the police mostly deal with internal issues now anyway.

    This change may have been in name only for those declaring wars, but for the average citizen of the planet, it was what they would have overwhelmingly voted for. Really it allows for the drawing down of standing armies to fractions of what they are.

    The UN needs a Security Council with only one veto and permanent member, the General Assembly, then it would be democratic. The errors of the creation of Israel is that it was another authoritarian political move upon the ME by colonial money and colonial powers.

    You are asking for the scrapping of the system that opens up nations to democracy (and at the 193 states level, direct democracy will perhaps work better than with 300m voters!), and replace it with tyrannical laws. It’s as if a monarchy was overthrown by the people and then they would ask for completion of contracts under the old legal system.

    It’s not absolutely unjustifiable, but and with 192 onlookers, it would invite more violence into the world imo. Worth breaking the system to move upwards sometimes, not down.

    • Replies: @A123
  381. Zionist are a bunch of liars accustomed to fooling everyone

    Zionist clearly laugh at us and take us for fools, a group of Arabs/Wahabi-Salafists attacked New York and a group of Zionist took advantage of the circumstance to deceive the American people and send their children to kill and die and everything at the expense of the American money/Debt

    And these artists of lies and deception insist that Arabs/Wahabi-Salafists and Zionist are our allies

    More than a million victims and trillions of dollars have cost the confluence of interests between Zionist and Arabs/Wahabi-Salafist, and they have the hard face of continuing to speak as if nothing had happened (2001-2019)

    • Replies: @anon
  382. @Colin Wright

    Mr. Wright is demonstrating us the old Anti-Zionist technique of “I have no proper counter argument so I’d call ‘Hasbara’ and leave the debate”.

    Other variations of this technique : Instead of calling ‘Hasbarah’ go for ‘Talmudic’, ‘Zionist’, or if you lack the shame, just say ‘Jew’.

    Now, don’t be so boring Mr. Wright – find me a better Middle-Eastern ally than Israel. As stable as Israel. As military powerful as Israel. As having a unified society as Israel. As economical powerful as Israel.

    Go ahead. Don’t be like that.

  383. Zion

    Zion is a private hunting ranch where to put a bullet in the skull or chest of an Arabhebrew children from 100-200 meters away with a rifle with a telescopic sight

    in our crazy Biblical Theme Park some have all the political and military power and others live without civil rights and under military domination

    if this nightmare were a mere local hobby like fox hunting among the English aristocracy … but it turns out that these lunatics -the Zionist- are the hard core of the American ruling class

    It is funny to talk about “allies” when America is occupied territory and we in America and Europe are all servants of our lords at the service of their interests and crazy fantasies that, to make matters worse, coincide with the crazy fantasies of Saudi Arabia

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  384. geokat62 says:
    @Iron Lion Zion

    Now, don’t be so boring Mr. Wright – find me a better Middle-Eastern ally than Israel.

    You’re right. What other “ally” has awarded America with such benefits as the massacre of the USS Liberty, in which 34 sailors were killed and over 170 wounded? Or, having advance knowledge of the 9/11 attacks, withheld information that would have prevented the death of 3,000 Americans?

    You’re right, America has no better “ally” in the ME!

    • Replies: @Iron Lion Zion
  385. annamaria says:
    @Iron Lion Zion

    As one wise man said, we did not have enemies in the Middle East until Israel had fetched the enemies for the US.

    The US citizenry at large does not need Israel — only your hypocritical Israel-firsters and fanatical Talmudists do. Take your firsters and Christian zionists with you to the apartheid and theocratic Jewish State and stop quetching about your “incomparable victimhood” and demanding more money for holobiz.

    After what your ilk had done in Russia at the beginning of the last century, your whining is indecent. See LazarKaganovitch (the Wolf of Kremlin and organizer of Holodomor), Rozalia Zalkind and her role in the mass murders in Crimea, Naftali Frenkel (the organizer of GULAG), and many more criminals of Jewish extraction, who are guilty of murdering millions of Russians.

    The Middle East has been bombed and raped according to Oded Yinon plan for Eretz Israel. Millions have been suffering and millions died because of the Wars for Israel.

    The Epstein saga, laced with Mossad presence through and through, is still unraveling. Adelson and Singer and Wexner still continue their criminal and subversive activities in the US. Sure there are “local” enemies of humanity like Cheney and Clintons, but at least they do not pontificate about special victimhood of “their” people in a foreign country.

  386. To Colin Wright, the Tin Man & Lyin’ Zion opined:
    “Now, don’t be so boring Mr. Wright – find me a better Middle-Eastern ally than Israel. As stable as Israel. As military powerful as Israel. As having a unified society as Israel. An economical powerful as Israel.”

    Haha, “Go ahead,” Lyin’ Zion, “be like that, ‘cuz more “anti Semites”🙄 get to see through the Supremacist Jew absurd theater.

    Haha. Were it not for devoted obedience of the US & other western Zionist country’allegiance to maintaining the Jewish state’s lunge for extremely volatile Middle East hegemony, the Land of Bilk & Money would be as “stable” as my broken homeland Scranton. Haha.

    Well, Lyin’ Zion, since you’re “bored” by Colin Wright’s common sense, including branding you “hasbara,”👍, below, I will enliven, & make your day. The cunning resignation/firing🤔 of Bolton was part of the joint ZUS/Israeli general population theater production.

    Following is the script, screen play.

    Fire the NeoCon war hawk, Bolton, and make it look like Trump wants to diplomatically resolve the conflict with Iran.

    As both Colin Wright and even you 🙄 are aware, the touchdown of the ZUS’s PNAC driven policy is to completely destroy the mighty Islamic Republic of Iran.

    Despite the Chosen tRump/Kushner Family disdain, Iran remains a powerful enemy of the Israeli/KSA combo. The Islamic Republic naturally stands in the way of the diabolical Greater Israel Project.

    (Zigh) Although the tRump administration👺feeds nuclear weapon systems to Saudi Arabia and ruthlessly imposes sanctions upon Iran, the royals fear Iran’s Shia revolution will spread to to KSA and the other lapdog Sunni kingdoms. No doubt, & as of this writing, the “stable’ Israeli butt kissing Kingdoms have a looming shelf life with Iran in the M.E. neighborhood.

    Therefore, ZUS theater is exposed, and Iran must go! And in addition, I suggest so must you, Lyin’ Zion. 🤗

    • Replies: @Iron Lion Zion
  387. @Iron Lion Zion

    An argument could indeed be made that in terms of a combination of

    -academic assets
    -business assets
    -cultural assets
    -financial assets
    -institutional assets
    -intellectual assets
    -intelligence assets
    -international assets
    -media assets
    -military assets
    -political assets
    -propaganda assets
    -scientific assets
    -social assets
    -technological assets

    Israel and its global support network come out far ahead of its neighbors.

    That fact of life may explain in part why the West has chosen to bet heavily on Israel for the last seven decades. (There are other reasons, as well.)

    If one were choosing a partner for a grand and difficult project, would Colin Wright choose Israel or the Palestinians? Israel or Egypt? Israel or Syria?

    Which nation in Israel’s neighborhood (including Israel) is most in tune with core Western values?

    These are substantive issues to think about, not mere canned talking points.

    Currently Palestinians are aligned with a global leftist movement, cultural Marxism and intersectionalism, which is engaged in an all-out war against Western civilization. How much does Colin care about free speech, free thought, free assembly, free markets and their associated values? Does he currently support the most radical leftists in the Democratic Party? Linda Sarsour? Ilhan Omar? Rashida Tlaib?

  388. @geokat62

    No cutting edge evidence for USS Liberty being a deliberate attack. Israel informed the US about the attack about 2 hours after it took place. What kind of a false flag operation is it when you expose yourself after two hours?

    Israel has passed warning to the US about an incoming attack months before 9/11, what did the Americans do with it?

    • Troll: anarchyst
    • Replies: @Bookish1
    , @Ace
  389. @ChuckOrloski

    The Islamic Republic naturally stands in the way of the diabolical Greater Israel Project.

    Maybe it’s the other way around.
    Maybe The Jewish State naturally stand in the way of the diabolical Greater Iran Project.

    They already gnawed into Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Gaza, but they can’t gnaw their way into Israel.

  390. @annamaria

    Take your firsters and Christian zionists with you to the apartheid and theocratic Jewish State and stop quetching about your “incomparable victimhood” and demanding more money for holobiz.

    When did I say a word about victimhood?
    Are we have a dialogue, or you’re having a monologue?

    Do you have a better US-ally in The Middle-East than Israel? A country as powerful, stable and loyal as Israel? Yes or no? Can you count on Turkey? If yes, then why did the US evacuate Incirlik? Can you count on the Saudis? If yes, then good luck in help them protecting themselves, as they ain’t doing it very well.
    And you don’t need Israel to get enemies in the Middle-East.
    In fact, the US is allied with both Israel and the Arabs.
    And if you go with the Sunni Arabs, you’re against Iran anyway.

    • Replies: @Assad al-islam
    , @annamaria
  391. @Sean McBride

    Sean,

    re: US and Israel partnership you wrote:

    If one were choosing a partner for a grand and difficult project

    And that project would be …? Any other readers wish to fill in the blanks.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  392. @Iron Lion Zion

    Iron Lion Zion,

    And who got rid of Saddam Hussein so that Iran could expand its influence in Iraq? I wonder what tune you were singing at the time? Opposing US’s two wars against Iraq because they aimed to get rid of Iran’s staunchest enemy? It would be best if you and Iran just fought it out yourselves and left everyone else out of it.

  393. @Iron Lion Zion

    ‘…Now, don’t be so boring Mr. Wright – find me a better Middle-Eastern ally than Israel. As stable as Israel. As military powerful as Israel. As having a unified society as Israel. As economical powerful as Israel…’

    Oh, alright.

    The thing is, you’re so dishonest, it’s hard to know where to begin. It’s like someone who wants to talk about the Nebraska Alps, or the deserts of Florida.

    But okay…

    ‘Israel stable.’ Israel isn’t stable at all. Half her population lives in grinding oppression as untermenschen in their own land. They’d tear their foreign masters into little pieces — and for good reason. Israel has to shoot down its subjects literally every friday. You might as well call German-occupied Poland ‘stable.’ Yeah, sure it’s stable — as long as there are enough guns and you keep your whip in hand.

    ‘as militarily powerful’ Nazi Germany was militarily powerful as well. So was Attila the Hun. How long did their regimes last? Some moral legitimacy helps. In fact, it’s what distinguishes a state from a gang of hooligans.

    a unified society.’ Leaving aside the detail that half the population lives in unwilling bondage, even the Jews all hate each other. Have you ever read what the secular Jews have to say about the Haredim? The theories the Mizrahi have about the Askenazim? They won’t even let their children go to school with each other. Unified?

    ‘Economically powerful’? It’s a criminal enterprise, that has to be subsidized to boot. The global leader in the illegal organ trade. White slavery. Ten billion a year from ‘binary options.’ Make Israel obey the law and yank it off the teat, and it would collapse.

    I cannot think of a worse ally — one that makes us more hated, that spies on us and subverts us at every turn, that has never been of use in any conflict, that makes us fight evil and unnecessary wars, that even now, is trying to bamboozle us into fighting an evil and futile war with Iran that will mark our end as a global power.

    Now, that really is enough. You’ve obviously nothing to say that even resembles the truth.

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
    • Replies: @Iron Lion Zion
  394. @Sean McBride

    ‘An argument could indeed be made that in terms of a combination of…’

    The argument collapses when one realizes that the same population achieves far more outside of Israel than it does in it — and ceases to impose at least some of the costs it does where it is.

    Your ‘argument’ is sort of like saying Bill Gates would be economically successful if we had moved him to a jungle village in the Amazon and made him spend his life there. Well, perhaps — but he would he do as well as he did in Seattle?

    Look at where all the most successful Jews are. Half the world’s Jews are in Israel — but that’s not where half the successful Jews are. Tell us about your Israeli Steven Spielbergs, your Israeli Philip Roths, your Israeli Barbara Tuchmans, your Israeli Einsteins.

    Sure, Israeli Jews have had some accomplishments. Think what they would have achieved in the US or Australia — and how much less the cost would have been.

    Israel’s a loss all round. Culturally, scientifically, technologically, financially, morally: in literally every respect, it’s a negative proposition. It’s not even good for the Jews themselves.

  395. @Commentator Mike

    ‘And that project would be …? Any other readers wish to fill in the blanks.’

    Well, it wasn’t Desert Storm. We all remember that. It turns out Israel’s such a pariah she can never be invited. It’s like trying to bring your cousin the child molester to a kid’s birthday party.

    As to Iran, you can bet we’ll be fighting — and losing — that ‘grand and difficult’ project alone. That’s the whole point. Israel doesn’t want to fight Iran — she wants us to.

    • Agree: Commentator Mike
  396. @Davidson20

    ‘…Zion is a private hunting ranch where to put a bullet in the skull or chest of an Arabhebrew children from 100-200 meters away with a rifle with a telescopic sight..’

    Have they ever realized there’s a financial opportunity here?

    How much would your genuine homicidal bigot pay to shoot himself a genuine raghead? Fifty grand? Perhaps not really suitable for mounting, but…

    There actually was a guy who went back and forth from New York, having himself a little murdercation every couple of years. The Israeli police knew about it, too — but winked.

    It came to an end when dude started targeting Jews. At that point, they arrested him for the Palestinians he’d killed on previous trips.

    No money — but it suggests the possibilities. Now, how can we package this?

  397. @Iron Lion Zion

    Haha. The Lyin’ Zion Lion opined:
    ,”They already gnawed into Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Gaza, but they can’t gnaw their way into Israel.”

    Haha. Above, and I prefer to avoid going down to Lyin’ Zion’s simpleton level, but I am’ fairly certain even this nut knows about Iraq’s large Shia population, and how the lyin’ W. Bush “Liberators” had to “gnaw”😈into Fallujah, and suffer loss of American hero blood.

    (Zigh). Must I further waste time explaining Hezbollah’s Greater Israel resistance role to this nut? Haha. Not me! Let a hasbara Coalition-ally of the Lyin’ Zion Lion intervene on both his & Israel’s shitty demographic behalf. 👍. Haha.

    • Replies: @Iron Lion Zion
  398. @ChuckOrloski

    Where did I ever say Iraq has no Shi’ite population?
    It is actually because of the Shi’ite population, that Iran managed to gnawed its way into Iraq.

    That’s the method of this want-to-be Empire. Spot loyalists amidst the local Shi’ite population. Form powerful militias that would be more loyal to the Empire (Iran) than to their host country. Empower these militias up to the point they are more powerful than the host nation’s army. Hezbollah is a very clear case, as it is way stronger than the army of its Lebanese country host. And there is something in common for all these Iranian-infested countries. They malfunction. Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Gaza. All failed countries, which Iran infiltrated and took over by using the method I described above. Gaza is an exception. Here the Iranian control is not based on Shi’ite affiliation, but on the Palestinian narrative.

    • Troll: ChuckOrloski
    • Replies: @Assad al-islam
  399. @Colin Wright

    As matters stand now, the worldwide Jewish community overall greatly values Israel and deems it an asset worth protecting.

    So the key question is: do you wish to maintain the worldwide Jewish community as an ally or convert it into an enemy? On rational grounds — on grounds of material self-interest — would you choose to trade Jews for Palestinians as a strategic partner?

    And keep in mind that Palestinians are aligned with a radical leftist mentality that has left ruin in its wake all around the world for more than a century now — in the Soviet Union, Eastern Europe, China, Cambodia, North Korea, Zimbabwe, Venezuela, etc. That movement is determined to obliterate every value and institution that the West holds dear.

    Whether you “love” or strongly dislike Israelis and Jews is not the critical point here. This is about the rational pursuit of your self-interest on the grand chessboard.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  400. annamaria says:
    @Sean McBride

    “cultural Marxism and intersectionalism, which is engaged in an all-out war against Western civilization.”

    — And what tribe has been assaulting the freedom of speech and freedom of information? What tribal cannibals have settled western civilization with the ongoing mass-slaughter in the Middle East and with the pleasures of uncontrolled emigration of people whose countries have been destroyed by the Wars for Israel? (Plus the vibrant diversity of sub-Saharan Africans, which is hailed by the zionists living in western democracies but strenuously avoided by the zionists living in the apartheid theocracy of Jewish State).

    “Israel and its global support network in
    – financial assets” — You mean the thieving City/WallStr. Madoffs, Rubins, and Greenspans ?– thanks but no thanks.

    -intellectual assets — This LGBTQIAPK monstrosity is called today “intellectual asset?” Only by Trotskyists. — http://www.unz.com/tsaker/debunking-the-lgbtqiapk-lobbys-propaganda

    -intelligence assets — You are so obviously proud of your Epstein, Wexner, Singer, Ghislaine Maxwell, and similar Israel-first criminals. https://www.mintpressnews.com/mega-group-maxwells-mossad-spy-story-jeffrey-epstein-scandal/261172/

    -media assets — Yes, the zionists-controlled MSM is a tool of propaganda destroying the western civilization.

    -military assets — The Jewish State and holobiz “sufferers” are indeed deep in the pockets of US taxpayers.

    -political assets — The US Congress as an Israel-occupied territory comprises mostly of traitors to western civilization.

    -propaganda assets — Destroying several countries on the flimsiest pretenses — yes, this is the glory of zionist propaganda.

    • Replies: @Sean McBride
  401. @Iron Lion Zion

    Do you have a better US-ally in The Middle-East than Israel? A country as powerful, stable and loyal as Israel?

    Netanyahu has put tRump in a dire straights. The word in the Middle East is that it was Israel who hit Saudi Arabia in the North and knocked off 50% KSA’s oil production. Iran doesn’t have this kind of Fire Power. Netanyahu did this on advise on Bolton, who has decided to take revenge on tRump for firing him. You are fired!

    Trump is in a dilemma, if he doesn’t start a war against Iran, he looks weak to the USA, KSA and World. If he retaliates, he will take USA to another war. Basically, tRump has been checkmated by Bolton.

  402. @Colin Wright

    # A Startup Nation: Why Israel Has Become The New Silicon Valley
    https://apex.aero/2019/05/22/startup-nation-israel-become-silicon-valley

    Israel has earned the nickname “Startup Nation” for a very good reason: With a population of around 8.5 million, it has the largest number of startups per capita in the world, around one startup per 1,400 people. This phenomenon has caught the eyes of companies with global reach – and global aspirations – including those in the airline industry.

    Attention from established industries seems to have inspired a yes-we-can attitude among young professionals in Israel. “I believe there is a culture in Israel for innovation, and since people see that many startups are being promoted and sold and doing great stuff, it gives you motivation to create more,” says Asaf Toker, CEO of SeeVoov, a video-based trip-planning platform.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Colin Wright
  403. @Assad al-islam

    The above hit will divide the Muslim World into two groups, those who want revenge against Iran and those who advise prudence. It is a Machiavellian move. But it seems China is not buying that it was Iran:

    Prematurely assigning blame for attack on Saudi oil facilities is irresponsible, says China

    Beijing has warned that it would be irresponsible to guess who is the culprit behind the attacks on Saudi Arabia’s oil facilities without conducting a proper investigation. The US had immediately blamed Iran for the operation.

    Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying urged against jumping to conclusions over the attack, which hit the world’s biggest oil-processing facility, stressing that a needless escalation in the region should be avoided.

    “Pondering who is to blame in the absence of a conclusive investigation, I think, is in itself not very responsible. China’s position is that we oppose any moves that expand or intensify conflict,” Hua said on Monday during a press briefing.

    She implored all parties concerned to “restrain themselves” in order to “safeguard peace and stability” in the Middle East.

    https://www.rt.com/news/468914-china-saudi-oil-attack-facts/

  404. @Colin Wright

    Now you’re the one being quite dishonest here, aren’t you, Mr. Wright?

    First, counting the Palestinians as “half of Israel’s population”.
    To begin with, the Palestinians are not Israeli citizens. They fall under the jurisdiction of the Palestinian Authority, which was formed by the power of the 1993 Oslo Agreements.
    Now, the Palestinians have failed for over the last two decades to materialize a country that will co-exist next to Israel and accept its existence. The fact Palestinians failed to do so, doesn’t mean Israel is obligated to absorb the Palestinian population.

    Now, that we passed the Palestinians. Yes, Israel is very stable. Netanyahu is ruling for a decade. Israel never experienced a civil war, a military coup or extreme civil unrest amidst its own population.

    I’d say it’s very stable.
    Way more stable than the US in fact, with all these people shooting each other on a daily basis.

    About military strength, are you telling me the US picks allies by morality? If that so, then I guess you cannot have ANY Middle-Eastern ally other than Israel. Israel is closest in its values to the US than all Middle-Eastern countries.

    A unified society? Of course. It is based on sectors, indeed, like is usually goes in the Middle-East. But as I mentioned above, Israeli society it has imploded into itself, and unlike Atzmon is constantly suggesting, it’s not even close to that. This cannot be said on Israel’s neighbors, however. Compare Israeli society to Lebanese society, Syrian society, Jordanian society or Iraqi society, and see the difference.

    You think Israeli economy runs on “binary options scams” ? Am I wasting my time here? Heard of the Israeli high-tech industry, second only to the Californian silicon valley. Heard of the Diamond Exchange District in Tel-Aviv? Heard of Israel arm exports?

    Israel is making you hated? I heard many bad stuff said on Americans that is not related to Israel at all.

  405. @Assad al-islam

    Iran doesn’t have a bunch of drones and ballistic missiles? They are constantly boasting they will destroy Israel in a matter of minutes with their ballistic power. I doubt this claim, but I bet they can take an oil facility located on the other side of the Gulf.

  406. @Iron Lion Zion

    Form powerful militias that would be more loyal to the Empire (Iran) than to their host country.

    It appears that they learned it from Israel Firster!

    • Replies: @Iron Lion Zion
  407. annamaria says:
    @Sean McBride

    “Which nation in Israel’s neighborhood (including Israel) is most in tune with core Western values?”

    — Why don’t you deal with your neighbors on your own, without bothering the western civilization by your feuds with your cousins?

    As for the core Western values, the profiteering schema of Holobiz, in the context of the assault on the freedom of speech and freedom of information from Israel-firsters (see or example, the fate of the documentary “Two Hundred Years Together” by Solzhenitsyn, or the Israel-first conditions for receiving state help in case of a natural disaster in the US), reveals that while zionists demand from the westerners to adhere to the core Western values, the zionists prefer to follow the theocratic and supremacist ideology of chosenness that contradicts the core Western values.

    https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/436929

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41688999

    http://themillenniumreport.com/2015/03/the-jews-in-the-soviet-union-by-aleksandr-solzhenitsyn/

  408. @Iron Lion Zion

    Iran doesn’t have a bunch of drones and ballistic missiles? They are constantly boasting they will destroy Israel in a matter of minutes with their ballistic power. I doubt this claim, but I bet they can take an oil facility located on the other side of the Gulf.

    Iran is all talk, and you know talk is cheap!

  409. annamaria says:
    @Iron Lion Zion

    You have highly selective attention.

    One more time for you: We did not have enemies in the Middle East until Israel had fetched the enemies for the US.

    Leave western civilization alone. We do not need your theocratic tribal ethos that thrives on shamelessness of “chosenness.”

    • Replies: @Iron Lion Zion
  410. @annamaria

    So you think the smart move, from the standpoint of Western interests, is to bet on Israel’s adversaries.

    What achievements and virtues of that collective most impress you? Do you admire their moral capital? Their economic successes? Their military successes?

    What is there about the cultures of Egypt, Iraq, Libya and Syria that you find inspiring in 2019? Perhaps their sensitive regard for human rights and civil liberties? Their commitment to unfettered intellectual inquiry?

    Are you comfortable with framing global politics as a race war between people of color (nonwhites) and whites? How do you envision that battle unfolding and concluding? Are you prepared to side with the radical left in that struggle?

  411. @Assad al-islam

    They did? I think they are the world top experts in that. They can truly write a patent on that. Hezbollah in Lebanon is their greatest success. Lebanon is a malfunctioning country with a broken society, while Hezbollah is the strongest terror organization in the world. Hezbollah is basically the only thing in Lebanon that operates properly.

    Now, Iran wishes to duplicate the Hezbollah model to Syria, to Iraq, to Yemen, to Gaza. They doing pretty well in Yemen with the Houthis, and they are doing pretty well in Gaza with Hamas and PIJ.

    So far, Israel is stopping them effectively in Syria.

    If it wasn’t for Israel, Syria already had its own “Hezbollah” entity, completely loyal to Tehran, and not to Damascus.

  412. annamaria says:
    @Sean McBride

    “And keep in mind that Palestinians are aligned with a radical leftist mentality…”

    — Aren’t you trying to scare the readers? No decent people suffer from Palestinians — but the world has been suffering from the shameless supremacist emissaries of the theocratic Jewish State. Learn first about the role of ziocons in the ongoing “humanitarian” interventions in the Middle East (the Wars for Eretz Israel).

    The leftist mentality is the mentality of Zvi Zhabotinsky and his terrorist followers in Palestine (was not Benzion M., Bibi’s father, an eager pupil of Zvi?) The same kind of people were the makers of the “Russian” Revolution, before the zionists project in the Middle East. See the Jewish organizers of the subhuman secret police and GULAG in the bloodied and terrorized Russia after she lost her beloved monarch (and all his children) as well as the flower of professional classes and nobility.

    It was Jacob Schiff, a Jewish banker in NYC, who supported the leftist Trotsky and financed the radicalization of Russian prisoners of war in Japan (1905).

    Learn about your own radical leftists and mass murderers before posting your preaching about the “great value” of the Jewish State. This theocratic and malignant curiosity has survived thanks to ignorance about the role of Jewish “radical leftists” in the Russian tragedy and destruction of Germany. The US needs to wake up to the danger.

    • Replies: @Sean McBride
  413. nymom says:
    @Ilya G Poimandres

    I thought Crimea was always part of historic Russia…as I understood the history here Stalin gifted it to the Ukraine government for allowing the destruction of their own farming communities…

  414. @annamaria

    What makes you more Western than your fellow Jew?
    Jews were always part of the West.
    The West grew out of Athens and Rome, both of which subjugated and destroyed Judea at their time, only to absorb the Judeans eventually.
    So it the ‘West’ that came to Israel (Judea), not vice versa.
    And in the past 2000 years, the Jews always were a key component of the Western civilization, like it or not. Western affinity with Israel is just the expression of that.

    About being ‘Chosen’, it’s a responsibility, not a privilege. The Jews are tasked to be “Light onto the Nations”, a beacon of morality, a good example.

    Don’t buy Atzmon’s writings, he is into cannibalizing and dehumanizing his own fellow Jews, no more.

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
    , @annamaria
  415. @Iron Lion Zion

    Iran doesn’t have a bunch of drones and ballistic missiles? They are constantly boasting they will destroy Israel in a matter of minutes with their ballistic power. I doubt this claim, but I bet they can take an oil facility located on the other side of the Gulf.

    Contradiction in terms!

    Basically, Iran cannot take on Israel, USA biggest ally. But they can take on KSA, the second biggest USA ally, who is the world largest oil producer. And, knock off 50% of their daily oil production. As I said earlier that tRump is in dilemma.

    But tRump can call Bolton’s bluff if he got the balls. He can prove it to USA, KSA and World that it was Bolton, Netanyahu and Israel’s doing. I wonder what will Bolton do in this case!

    Unfortunaley, LBJ didn’t have balls…

    • Replies: @Iron Lion Zion
  416. annamaria says:
    @Sean McBride

    Israel is also called the center of sex-trafficking and pedophilia.

    Before you boast about the alleged intellectual prowess of Israel, learn where the Israelis “find” their ideas: http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/spying-for-israel-is-consequence-free/

    Milchan was an active Israeli spy in the U.S., working for the Mossad technology theft division referred to as LEKEM. The Mossad frequently uses so-called sayanim in its espionage, which means diaspora Jews that it recruits on the basis of a shared religion or concern for the security of Israel. The threat coming from Israeli Embassy operatives inside the United States is such that the Department of Defense once warned that Jewish Americans in government would likely be the targets of their intelligence approaches.

    https://www.mintpressnews.com/cia-israel-mossad-jeffrey-epstein-orwellian-nightmare/261692/

    Epstein, who was known for his interest in obtaining blackmail through the sexual abuse of the underaged girls he exploited, also claimed to have “damaging information” on prominent figures in Silicon Valley. …

    Though it is unknown exactly which Silicon Valley figures were most connected to Epstein and which tech executives were potentially being blackmailed by Epstein, it is known that Epstein associated with several prominent tech executives, including Google co-founder Sergey Brin, Facebook co-founder Mark Zuckerberg, Tesla CEO Elon Musk, Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates, and LinkedIn co-founder Reid Hoffman.

    https://nationalvanguard.org/2019/07/israel-built-a-massive-empire-of-power-and-wealth-based-on-stolen-american-technology/

    How did Israel get access to US high technology and intellectual property? It all began in the 1970s, when the US and Israeli governments formed BIRD (Israel-United States Bi-national Industrial Research and Development) Foundation. BIRD funds joint partnerships between Israeli and American companies, with 50 percent of its funding coming from the US government. That’s right, our taxpayer money is funding Israeli industry, while our infrastructure is in shambles. …

    That is where the Israeli high tech industry gets its lifeblood. Using this access to US industry, Israel set up a massive espionage operation in the United States to steal secret US defense secrets, military technology, and intellectual property in the early 1980s. …

    Without Pollard, Israel would never have been able to engage in signal intelligence gathering, which means that the infamous Israeli companies tied to 9/11: Amdocs and Verint, would never have been formed. But Pollard was just the tip of the iceberg. There was a whole Israeli Espionage Network surrounding and working with Pollard, including guys like Richard Perle, Frank Gafney JR, Douglas J Feith, John F Lehman Jr, and Paul Wolfowitz.

    All this technology that Israel has stolen was developed by tax payer money through DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency). Nearly all of Apple’s technology was developed by DARPA. Google emerged through DARPA technology and the CIA’s MDDS (Massive Digital Data Systems) project, and Facebook raised its initial capital through an investment from Peter Thiel, whose data mining company, Palantir, was first funded by the CIA Venture capital firm, In Q Tel. …

    Many other tech firms including Google, Facebook, IBM, Motorola, Microsoft, Qualcomm, and Apple have R&D centers in Israel as well. … These companies operate in Israel because they seek to make Israel the high tech capital of the world, where Israel will rule the world in a one world government from Jerusalem as Ben Gurion predicted.

    The fall will be very painful. Though that will not be surprising considering the previous history of punishments and banishments for subversive activities in the host countries.

  417. A123 says:
    @Ilya G Poimandres

    The UN needs a Security Council with only one veto and permanent member, the General Assembly, then it would be democratic.

    The UNSC worked for a few years immediately after launch, as much by accident as by design. Veto powers were held by the nations that had both the political will and military strength to enforce resolutions at gunpoint. There doesn’t seem to be any way back to that situation.

    As things stand now the UNSC is helpless and powerless, unable to enforce its resolutions. Lip service is given to the organization only when it is in the national interest to so. Everyone understands that all serious nations can easily (and frequently) ignore the UNSC and UNGA. It is hard to see how changing the veto structure will make the UNSC less helpless.

    Also, for nations where perceived ‘face’ is crucial, you are suggesting a major downgrade. Do you think the Chinese would ever accept lowered status to equal that of a tiny island nation like Fiji?

    … opens up nations to democracy (and at the 193 states level, …

    The U.N. is far removed from the voters. Using the word democracy in this context is something of a stretch.
    — How many non-democratic nations get a vote in the UN?
    — Of the democratic nations, how many have their UN Rep/Ambassador as a ballot position.

    UN General Assembly appointments and their associated cushy lifestyle in the U.S. are typically filled as rewards to unelected, elite power brokers. Rarely someone who represents the people of the underlying nation.

    You are asking for the scrapping of the system …, and replace it with tyrannical laws.

    No. I am asking for the scrapping of a tyrannical, anti-democratic system that trades in ‘false hope’ and deception. Real world, fact based experience has proven the U.N. foundational concepts (New World Order [NWO] and One World Government) are unworkable fantasy. Sovereign nations are wisely unwilling to cede power to unelected UN bureaucrats.

    I am not asking for any replacement. All I offer is tearing down the facade so people have a better shot at understanding today’s reality as it actually exists. Once that is complete, the world can start discussing replacement options that have a chance at working.

    PEACE 😇

    ____

    P.S. My system is now having difficulty rendering this thread length even with comment clipping on. So, this is probably my last posting under this heading. Hopefully we can re-engaged under another top level heading. While we disagree, you are serious and logical which places you a cut above many of the posters here.

    • Replies: @Ilya G Poimandres
  418. @annamaria

    You are correct to note that some Jews have played a leading role among modern radical leftist movements over the last century. It is also true that some Jews have played a leading role among modern anti-radical leftist movements over the last century. It’s a complicated picture.

    Contemporary leftists — cultural Marxists and intersectionalists — are increasingly defining all Israelis — and even most Jews worldwide — as “whites” — that is, as members of the evil enemy group that must be destroyed by “people of color” (including Palestinians).

    I didn’t invent this bizarre racist narrative. Contemporary leftists themselves are driving and promoting this narrative and propaganda scheme, which is gaining increasing traction in the mainstream Democratic Party.

    When confronted with that kind of threatening rhetoric, most people who care about Western civilization, Western values and Western interests are likely to side with the Israelis. Watch and see — this is a no-brainer.

    Palestinians are going to be ruined by their supposed saviors. Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib are not the future of American politics.

  419. @Assad al-islam

    Iran can conduct such an attack upon Israel, probably, but the retaliation would be heavy.
    Plus, Israel may have better defensive capabilities than the Saudis.

  420. @annamaria

    All the leading high tech nations in the world engage in exhaustive and relentless spying on one another. China may be the worst, but don’t underestimate the capabilities of the USIC. Israel, of course, has a certain set of skills in this department. Anything involving innovative tech that is not nailed down will be stolen and used. That is how the game is played. If you can’t play the game, you lose.

    One could become morally outraged about this state of affairs, but you would be wasting your breath.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  421. Anon[170] • Disclaimer says:

    Lest anyone forget, here is the context for all of the Jews and their advocates here:

    John 8:44

    You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and he stood not in the truth; because truth is not in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof.

  422. @annamaria

    Only a person completely detached from reality can post about Israel being the High Tech Capital of The World and then speaking of an incoming fall.

    Wake up.
    There won’t be a fall.

    Israel is a too valuable component at the Global Market. Israeli technology is known as top-notch. Israel got most Start-Up companies per capita out of all countries.

    All stolen from the Americans? plz. That’s kindergarten-tier level of whining.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @renfro
  423. @Sean McBride

    ‘# A Startup Nation: Why Israel Has Become The New Silicon Valley…’

    Uh huh. One might be pardoned for wondering how they got the technology — and the funding.

    However, be that as it may. A while back, the statistical stars aligned in a convenient way. The Nobel Prizes had been around for exactly twice as long as Israel had, and about half the world’s Jews were in Israel.

    Logically, about a fourth of the ‘hard’ Nobels awarded to Jews should have gone to Israeli Jews.

    They hadn’t. In fact, Israeli Jews, while they still had more awards proportionate to their numbers than the rest of humanity, had received Nobels at about one fiftieth of the number they should have proportionate to non-Israeli Jews.

    For whatever reason, Israel doesn’t encourage Jewish achievement; it dampens it.

    Israel just isn’t good for anyone. It’s certainly not good for us, and obviously, it’s not good for the Palestinians; but it’s not good for the Jews either.

    • Agree: annamaria
  424. HT says:

    Israel doesn’t bother me at all. As I recall they were the only country that did not sell out South Africa. Wish I could say the same for America and Europe. The bigger problem is Left wing Jews in America who run the media, academia, and Hollywood who also hate Israel.

  425. @Colin Wright

    Uh huh. One might be pardoned for wondering how they got the technology — and the funding.

    Israeli taxes. They are quite high.

    Logically, about a fourth of the ‘hard’ Nobels awarded to Jews should have gone to Israeli Jews.

    This is not how the world works.

    Israel just isn’t good for anyone. It’s certainly not good for us, and obviously, it’s not good for the Palestinians; but it’s not good for the Jews either.

    Yes, living as a free and independent nation is very bad for the Jews ..

    Said like a true oppressor.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  426. @Colin Wright

    During the nineteen forties, fifties, sixties and seventies, Israel’s neighbors kept asserting confidently that Israel would disappear soon for any number of reasons. How did that work out for them? How did they come to hold beliefs that were manifestly untrue and ungrounded in reality?

    Overall, during and since that era, Israelis and Jews worldwide have done quite well.

    One needs to be cautious when trying to make predictions about Israel, it would seem. It would be a mistake to underestimate the capabilities, resourcefulness and determination of Israel, and the stupidity of many of Israel’s opponents, who often confuse bombastic rhetoric with effective action.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  427. we can see that the Zionist are a bunch of cynical and liars clowns

    and of course this world belongs to them, evil always triumphs

    the probability that America will achieve its independence from these arrogant lunatics is very low, I certainly don’t have any hope about it

  428. Wally says:
    @Anon

    Indeed, and this is what we get:

    Media bias, control, & censorship:
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=605
    ex.:

  429. @Sean McBride

    ‘…How did they come to hold beliefs that were manifestly untrue and ungrounded in reality?’

    I notice that you’re not actually responding to what I said in my post.

    However, I’d say they underestimated Israel’s ability to manipulate, subvert, and exploit America. Wouldn’t you? After all, be fair. Who could have predicted Israel could get the kind of harness on us she has?

    It won’t do them any good in the end. Partly because of their actions, our star is rapidly waning, and once we’re no longer able to play global hegemon, that’ll be that for Israel. In a way, this whole Iran farce is symptomatic of that. Regardless of how it plays out, we’re going to come out of it weakened — and as a consequence, Israel will be that much closer to the end.

    A tapeworm never outlives its host.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @Sean McBride
  430. AaronB says:
    @Colin Wright

    You do, of course, realize that until 1973, American military supplies to Israel was negligible, and in 1948 even banned.

    So Israel’s greatest military victories, against combined Arab armies, was in the era prior to close American involvement with Israel. Israel’s air force in 1967, which performed at its peak, was mostly French planes.

    In fact, American involvement came as a result of these victories, when it began to seem that Israel might make a useful ally against the Soviet client stares.

    This is from the Wikipedia article on the Israeli air force – “After the IAF’s impressive performance in the Six-Day War, the Lyndon Johnson administration decided to sell F-4 Phantom fighters to Israel in 1968, marking the first sale of American military equipment to Israel.[13]”.

    American involvement in the ME has been on the whole good for Israel, although it’s possible to speculate that without the involvement of Europe and America, this conflict would have been solved long ago in a fair and humane manner, with the Palestinians finding a new home in Jordan. Unrealistic American and European demands are what has kept the conflict alive, particularly the anti-Israel European stance.

    Either way, American involvement may have been good, but it not crucial to Israel in any way.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  431. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:
    @Davidson20

    confluence of interests between Zionist and Wahabi-Salafists

    “Locked and Loaded” KSA’s Bitch is not MAGA.

  432. @AaronB

    ‘You do, of course, realize that until 1973, American military supplies to Israel was negligible…’

    We’ve been through this before. You claimed it, and I disproved it, and now here you are repeating it. I’m not going to list all the American arms Israel was using before 1973 for you again.

    • Replies: @anon
  433. @Colin Wright

    You continue to assume that non-Jewish power elites in American and Western politics aren’t independent and autonomous actors who are capable of devising and executing Mideast policies that suit their interests.

    Your prediction that American and Israeli power are waning is as credible as earlier predictions over half a century ago that Israel would quickly disappear from the world stage, overwhelmed by superior Arab military and economic might.

    With regard to a possible decline in American power in the coming decades, China is a much more important factor than Israel.

    You still haven’t responded to this point: do you feel comfortable aligning yourself with a political movement on the left that despises on a raw visceral level core Western values? Whose track record for over a century has been relentlessly hideous and which has never learned from its mistakes under leaders like Lenin, Stalin, Trotsky, Mao, Pol Pot, Che Guevara, Castro, Robert Mugabe, etc.? That is trying to ignite a global race war between people of color and whites?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  434. Dannyboy says:

    The world would be a great place without Jews.

    The Jews are our misfortune.

  435. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    Aaron’s lies are set on auto-reply. 🙁

    • Agree: Colin Wright
  436. @Sean McBride

    That’s twice in a row that your ‘response’ has consisted of simply ignoring what I said.

  437. @Iron Lion Zion

    You lie.

    There are three pillars of western civilization, and three only. These are 1) The European peoples – Jews are not a European people, except when it is convenient 2) Christianity – Jews murdered Christ, and today practice a form of Satanic Babylonian Mystery religion. That is contemporary Rabbinical Pharasism. 3) The Greco-Roman legal and philosophical legacy – which Jews by and large repudiate and are seeking to destroy and replace with some from of two-tiered non-universal law characterised by oppression for the goyim and impunity for the Jew.

    Western civilization is synonymous with both “European civilization” and “Occidental civilization”. Jews are synonymous with neither.

    There is no such thing as “Judeo-Christian values”. Judaism’s values are intrinsically opposed to Christian values; one might as reasonably declare that “Satano-Christian values” and Confucian philosophy provided the foundation of the West.

    The West did not ‘come to Judea’. Israel didn’t exist. It was imposed as the result of invasion and forceful annexation on a nation and geographical designation known as Palestine. Israel is not western, and it never will be western. It’s amazing watching liars and hucksters like Ben Shapiro define Palestinians out of history, then purport to do the same to the West entirely – as he plagiarises Leo Strauss.

    Jews are not western. You are not the west. You never have been the west. To the extent Jews have been involved in western nations, it has been to subvert them, and exploit them, and deceive and leverage them, and to destroy them.

    Jew destroyed Russia. Jews are in the process of destroying all of Europe via the Kalergi plan. Jews have destroyed vast swathes of United States cities. Jews have turned all the capitals of the West into enemy occupied zones. Jews have been the cause and the force behind all western revolutions of the past few centuries.

    The fact we live in a phoenecian-Jewish matrix and have done so for thousands of years doesn’t mean that Jews are western. The fact Jews have written false histories that simply evade the sheer scale of their subversion doesn’t mean Jews are western.

    Even Wikipedia, the lowest form of knowledge, shows how you are lying.

    You are also employing the classical Jewish ruse of exploiting all sides of an argument.

    Either Jews are western, or Jews are Israeli. There cannot be both. Pick one:

    The idea that Jews are part of Western civilization necessarily eliminates any legitimate territorial claim they might have to the land of Israel, which is not and has never been part of the West. Jews can claim Israel or they can claim to be of the West, but they cannot claim both. Furthermore, Christianity is an integral element of Western civilization and Jews are, again by definition, non-Christian. They are not part of Christendom, which you will note is a synonym for Western civilization.

    Either Israel is the home for the Jews, or Jews must convert and assimilate to conform to the identity of the West. There won’t be both. There isn’t both.

    It’s highly unlikely that western Europe and the United States are going to be able to avoid mass civil conflict in the next 20 years.

    Maybe the Jews who have flooded the West with pornography, invading nations, laws which destroy and infringe upon liberties and freedoms, military-surveillance, pedophiles, cultural-marxism, fraud on a monumental scale and above all lies piled upon lies piled upon lies in all of the domains of human existence, when the civil conflicts start, will find out how western they are.

    Everyone is now alienated from the Jew. Left and Right. There is a limit to what blackmail and force can achieve absent legitimacy.

    I used to love Israel. Now? No one, and I mean no one, is going to fight for that fake country and it’s snake-people.

    Don’t get me wrong. I love Jewish people. But I also love white people. And Jews seem to be hell bent on destroying white people everywhere they can be found. Debasing them, enslaving them, deceiving them, diminishing them, setting other races on them. And of course raping their children in vast numbers systematically and then blackmailing all of their leaders ensuing all are Jewish agents.

    So anyway, we will see. But don’t tell lies about Jews and the west.

    • Replies: @Iron Lion Zion
    , @geokat62
    , @Art
  438. annamaria says:
    @Iron Lion Zion

    “Light onto the Nations”

    — Tell this to the descendants of Spaniards. The gates of Spanish cities were opened for the invading Arabs by the local Jews.

    Both Latin and Arabic chroniclers record that the Jews of the city “opened the gates of Toledo” to Tariq, who conquered the city. With more cities to take Tariq left Toledo and entrusted its protection to a garrison of Jewish soldiers, who had risen up against the Catholic Visigoths and opened the gates.

    When Tariq’s master, Musa ibn Nusayr, arrived in Iberia with a large Arab force he seized Seville and like Tariq before him, he entrusted the city to its Jewish inhabitants until his return.

    So much for the “key component of western civilization.”

    Here is your another “key component:”

    Yagoda [Yenokh Gershevich Iyeguda] was a secret police official who served as director of the NKVD, the Soviet Union’s security and intelligence agency. Yagoda supervised the construction of the White Sea–Baltic Canal with Naftaly Frenkel, using penal labor from the GULAG system..

    Naftali Frankel was a member of the Cheka Soviet secret police and one of the most important organizers of the death camps in Russia.

    It’s estimated that around 100,000 people had to go out to work every day… The monthly mortality rate of prisoners reached 14 percent… “We have to take everything from the prisoner in the first three months. After that, we don’t need him,” Naftaly Frenkel explained in secret directives. [Solzhenitsyn wrote of Frenkel, “he really hated this country!”]

    The famous master of genocide:

    Lazar Kaganovich was indispensable to Stalin in the 1930’s [during Red terror]. … Between 1930 and 1935, Kaganovich was“a figure of enormous power” who, moreover, appeared to be a possible successor to Stalin…

    On January 13, 2010, Kiev Appellate Court posthumously found Lazar Kaganovich guilty of genocide against Ukrainians for his participation in the 1932-33 Holodomor. … The materials consist of over 250 volumes of archive documents (from within Ukraine as well as from abroad), interviews with witnesses, and expert analysis of several institutes of National Academies of Sciences.

    Kaganovich, as general secretary of the Ukrainian Communist Party, was a forthright exponent of forcible grain seizure. … He [Kaganovich] was the principal author of the Urals-Siberian method of grain procurement of 1929-30 that acted as a prelude to forcible collectivization. He facilitated the mass deportation of the kulaks and played a key role in the expulsion of Kuban peasants in 1932. In the years of famine [Holodomor] he was the most vocal supporter of Stalin’s draconian law…

    Millions died because of the Kaganovich and Frankel and Berman and Zalkind and other Jewish haters of Russia and Russians.

    In contradiction to the fashionable squealing about alleged antisemitism in the Soviet Union, the Jewish mass murderers died peacefully while enjoying various privileges. The Wolf of the Kremlin Lazar Kaganovich, who was guilty of genocide against Ukrainians, survived to the age of 97, dying in the “severe state of dementia” in Moscow.

    The progeny of the bloody Jewish Bolsheviks grace the state of Israel with their presence: https://thesaker.is/bloody-monday-grandnephew-of-gulag-organizer-stabbed-the-echo-of-moscow-editor/

  439. annamaria says:
    @Sean McBride

    I simply responded to your boasting of “Jewish genius” and special Jewish intelligence.

  440. annamaria says:
    @Iron Lion Zion

    You need to make a choice — either the apartheid theocracy is the “light of the nations” and the “most moral” and such or it is a malignant pimple that has betrayed the trust and sympathy of the western world.

    In any case, the Chinese are better workers and better inventors, whereas the thieving zionists are pretenders on special morality and special intelligence.

    https://nationalvanguard.org/2019/07/israel-built-a-massive-empire-of-power-and-wealth-based-on-stolen-american-technology/

  441. @annamaria

    The United States’ long, slow economic decline began in 1973, (when Nixon was President), with the Arab oil boycott, imposed for airlifting weapons to Israel during the Yom Kippur War, to prevent the Israelis from being overrun by their Arab neighbors. (It has been said Golda Meir threatened to use nukes.)

    Nixon got no favors from the American Jewish establishment for his pulling Israel’s chestnuts from the fire. Arabs became richer. Americans got much higher gas prices, but Israel was secured.

    More Americans need to know how costly our friendship with Israel has long been.

  442. renfro says:
    @Sean McBride

    ”These are substantive issues to think about, not mere canned talking points.”

    Your ‘substantive’ issues are immaterial in what MidEast country has the most value. Israel is not a democracy, it has no “core western values’…so that’s not a consideration in ‘value’.

    The bottom line for the US is we have no need of or use for Israel in any way. It has no economic, military or intelligence value to us. It is a net liability to the US. Israel is of value to only two groups: third world countries that they sell weapons to because no one else will and countries that want to influence the US and go to Israel to get the US Jewish Lobby to take their plea to the congress. The Only thing of actual value Israel has to offer to anyone is their Jewish influence on US politicians. That’s all they ever had and how they’ve gotten what they have. And that could soon change.

    Furthermore your list of assets is high schoolish. Most of those assets sprang from the US. And international and social assets ??…evidently you don’t keep up with what the majority of the world leaders say about Israel. Israel is the skunk at every international garden party.

    And Palestinians ”are aligned with a global leftist movement, cultural Marxism and Intersectionalism, which is engaged in an all-out war against Western civilization”’?
    Palestine has no free health care, Israel does. Palestine has no welfare , Israel does. So who is Marxist/Socialst? Do you even understand the terms Marxis and intersectionality? I don’t think so.

    This is pathetic hasbara. Try again.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Sean McBride
  443. @annamaria

    — Tell this to the descendants of Spaniards. The gates of Spanish cities were opened for the invading Arabs by the local Jews.-

    They (jews) did exactly the same thing, opening the gates of Constantinoupolis to the Ottoman crowds.

    In other news …
    We were told that …..eye-ran, bomb oil facilities in Saudi Arabia.
    And if you believe this one, my name is: Benjamin Criminalnyahu.

    P.S.
    Prime Minister of Malaysia, Mahathir Mohamad: “They put others to fight and die for them”

    As far for this criminal Kaganovich, there is in USA, one Robert Kagan (short for Kaganovitch) married to one Victoria Nuland (Nudleman) well known jews in the neocon department.
    Are they related to this genocidal Lazar Kaganovich?????

  444. @Flint Clint

    Couldn’t stop laughing.
    Such a long manifest full of hate, only to be signed with “Don’t get me wrong. I love Jewish people.”

    Kalergi Plan? There is no Kalergi Plan.
    You get immigrants coming to Europe because the European leaders have reached a demographic dead-end. The birth rates in Europe hit rock bottom. It’s less 2.1 children per woman. That means the population will shrink. With life expectancy rising, you’d get in a generation or two a society full of old people, but with not many working young hands. There won’t be enough pension funds for all these old folks.

    These is why the European leaders thought of a ‘solution’ by importing cheap labor force from the 3rd world.

    It got nothing to do with any mysterious plan to wipe out White people.

    Anyway, about the Jews and the West.

    I wrote it specifically, Athens, and then Rome in its turn, came to Judea. As a foreign legion. As occupiers. Decimated it, and absorbed the Jewish population into the Empire.
    It was Hadrian who changed the name Judea to Palestina. This after “Pleshet”, the name of the land of the Philistines, which resided around the Gaza-Jaffa line. The Philistines by themselves came from the Greek Islands. They were European invaders by themselves.

    To conclude – “Palestine” is a European word ! Not a Levantine word !

    And this is why the ‘West’ came to Judea – and not vice versa.

    And of course, Western civilization is based on Christianity (which in its turn based on Judaism).
    But Jews were always living among the Christians in the West, and they always played an important role. You have Jews constantly living within the West since the days of Rome until current days, and despite being a minority, holding great influence.

    It is true you could find Jews also outside the West, like in the Muslim World, but that’s irrelevant.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Flint Clint
  445. renfro says:
    @Iron Lion Zion

    Israel is a too valuable component at the Global Market. Israeli technology is known as top-notch. Israel got most Start-Up companies per capita out of all countries.

    Every year, 80% of Israeli start ups fail. https://www.forbes.com/sites/startupnationcentral/2018/05/14/israeli-techs-identity-crisis-startup-nation-or-scale-up-nation/#18fb092aef48

    Of the 536 multinationals in Israel, 55 percent are headquartered in the US, with 27 percent in Europe and 15 percent from Asia-Pacific.
    Of those ‘foreign owned’ companies over 250 R&D Centers in Israel are owned by multinational companies.
    The largest tech companies in Israel are Microsoft, headquartered in Redmond, Washington, who operates in some 190 countries and Intel who is in 64 countries including China, Ireland , Malaysia, Costa Rica and Vietnam.
    Israel could disappear tomorrow and neither Intel and Microsoft or the world at large would feel it..they ‘d just have one of their other plants pick up any slack.
    Israel created practically nothing in its own economy.
    Israel’s largest home grown business is drugs and cut diamond exports.
    And its largest drug maker Telva went bankrupt and was bought out by Buffet, but its still going under and the pharma trade says it is considering becoming a marijuana distributor ….not kidding.

    Any kind of big war in the ME or change in US protective attitude toward Israel and its bye bye Israel.—-the multinationals will pull out and your economy will go down the drain.

    Sweet dreams.

    • Replies: @Iron Lion Zion
  446. @annamaria

    Cherry picking.
    I am talking of 2000 years of history since Rome to current days, where Jews resided in the West, and not as an insignificant minority.

    As for opening the gates of Toldeo to Tariq – may be a result of Christians mistreating Jews, as always. This is a European Christian tradition after all, since the days of Hadrian. These Jews might have favored the Muslim occupier. Historically, Jews saw more tolerance in the Muslim World than in the European-Christian World.
    I’d also mention Georgia (not the US state, the Caucasian country). Jews resided in Georgia for 2000 years and not experienced much anti-semitism. And Georgia was always Christian.
    It is something in European-Christian culture that was truly anti-Jewish. Must be leftovers of Hadrian.

    As for Soviets Jews, they aligned themselves with Soviet ideology, aliening themselves away from Judaism.

  447. @A123

    Yes, one world government is not the best. But pure anarchy is also not optimal. Nations can agree on some things though. Cryptotech may help here as it is trustless (well, other than the dev team!).

    Until another chat!

  448. geokat62 says:
    @Flint Clint

    So anyway, we will see. But don’t tell lies about Jews and the west.

    Congratulations! That was one hell of a demolition project you chose to undertake. Well done!

  449. geokat62 says:
    @renfro

    This is pathetic hasbara. Try again.

    Another mole gets whacked on the head. How long before another one pops up to get the same treatment? … 10, 9, 8…

  450. geokat62 says:
    @Incitatus

    Forgive me. Let me be clear. Babs appears an idiot. No reason to waste time on her. There are many idiots, who cares what they say? I have no interest in her. Why do you waste your time with such nonsense?

    Oh, she’s an idiot? If that’s the case why did she receive The King’s Medal from the king of Sweden for her “outstanding contribution for Jewish culture in Sweden and beyond” at the Royal Palace in Stockholm?

    http://www.paideia-eu.org/2018/02/02/paideias-founding-director-barbara-spectre-receives-the-kings-medal/

    Or, for that matter, why has she been invited to attend a conference in Israel called “Our Common Destiny”?

    Henrik Palmgren, host of Red Ice, has created a video, Barbara Spectre Is Back!

    Here’s what he had to say:

    Replacement activist and former head of Paideia, Barbara Spectre resurfaced in Israel for a conference called “Our Common Destiny” together with Jacob Rothschild and Israel’s president, in an effort to “achieve a unified vision for global Jewry.” What exactly is this event about and why do they invite a hateful individual like Barbara Spectre?

    If you think BS is small potatoes, what do you think about Georgy Schwartz… er, I mean George Soros and his Open Society Foundations? Are you suggesting there is not a concerted effort on the part of The Lobby to increase the diversity levels of Western nations? If so, what about that picture of Mark Potok of the SPLC showing off his post-it note with the data of the % of non-Hispanic whites of the US population dropping from 90% to 64% in just a few decades after the passage of Hart-Cellar?

    Do you deny that The Lobby has a full press court on Diversifying the West? Seriously?

    What do I “subscribe to”? Don’t think in those terms. Sorry. Have enough trouble figuring out what’s good or bad. Simpler is better, leave off the labels.

    So, we’re finally getting down to brass tacks. You are indifferent to The West being overwhelmed by non-Europeans. You have no issue with this development. You, by default, agree with the cultural Marxist assumption that human beings are all simply individuals that are interchangeable economic units. We should focus on the individuality of people and downplay the fact that they belong to groups?
    Do I have this right? If so, so much for the theory. What about the practice. Haven’t we seen the consequences of what open borders means for The West. Has England, Sweden, France, Germany, Ireland, etc., etc., benefitted from these increased levels of Diversity? I think the evidence is overwhelming that they have not. London has become the stabbing capital of the world. Paris is quickly looking like a third world shithole. The academic Prof. Robert Putman assembled data that predicted these results. Bottom Line: The Jewish Supremacists have sold us another bill of goods. Diversity Isn’t Our Greatest Strength. It is our greatest weakness. It just so happens that it is their greatest strength, as it creates heterogeneous societies in which there is no longer a single ethnic group that dominates all others.

    How’s pace-maker Dick Cheney doing, with puppet clone hawk daughter Liz intent on sending us into another war? The slaughter in Yemen?

    Let me complete the statement regarding another war. Cheney and his puppet clone hawk daughter are sending us into another war for Israel. But you already knew that.

    Look, if I had to rank these two issues (1. losing our homelands through hyper levels of diversity and 2. launching illegitimate wars to enhance the security and hegemony of the villa in the jungle), I would place losing our homelands above all else. If we don’t save our homelands, all other issues become meaningless.

    Speaking of homelands, I don’t recall if you indicated your support for a Jewish homeland. If you do favour one, why do you not favour one also for Western peoples?

    So, Incy, it all boils down to this: if you support a homeland for the Jewish people, you should be supportive of a homeland for all other peoples, including European and European-derived peoples.

    So, are you a Zionist?

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  451. @renfro

    That’s a lot of data .. showing how powerful and valuable Israel is to the world economics.

    Over 250 foreign-owned R&D centers?
    20 precent of Start-Up succeed?
    Over 500 multinationals?

    Wow, things are better than I thought.

    Big war in the Middle-East, ain’t gonna happen.

    US abandoning Israel? Why? Its the most powerful and loyal US ally. Best investment ever.

    Sweet dreams to you too.

    • Replies: @renfro
  452. geokat62 says:
    @Iron Lion Zion

    These is why the European leaders thought of a ‘solution’ by importing cheap labor force from the 3rd world.

    It got nothing to do with any mysterious plan to wipe out White people.

    lol. Go back to sleep, goy. There’s nothing to see here.

    Oh, the old low birth rate canard!

    That’s why Hungary is providing its people with generous tax incentives to have three or more children?

    No, Rusty Pussycat Zion, responsibility for opening The West to mass immigration and mass miscegenation lies squarely at Jewish Supremacist Organizations doorstep. There is no getting around this. Just ask Barbara Lerner Spectre, whose Paideia is funded by George Soros’ Open Society Foundations. Once enough of The Dumb Goyim begin to snap out of the Cultural Marxist trance they’ve been placed in, things could get very interesting!

    So, good luck with your deflection efforts. Just remember they are not as effective as they used to be and remember also the old biblical warning: you reap what you sow!

    • Replies: @Iron Lion Zion
  453. @geokat62

    Why can’t the Goyim understand it’s all because of Barbara ?????
    It’s not about Europeans NOT having children !

    lmao

    • Replies: @geokat62
  454. @Germanicus

    You would find that once those leftist Jews stepped foot on Israeli land, they would turn into right wingers. The Jew has always promoted nationalism at home and liberalism abroad. A very simple and logical strategy.

  455. anarchyst says:
    @Iron Lion Zion

    I would take it a step further. It can be surmised that Islam is an Arabacized form of judaism.

    BOTH cults have their respective supremacist attitudes, regarding those “not of the tribe” to be of lesser status, with almost no “rights”.

    In both cults, a “non-believer” may not testify against anyone of each respective “tribe”.

    BOTH cults proscribe lesser punishments for for offenses committed against those within their respective “tribes” and much harsher punishments for transgressions committed by those “not of the tribe” against those “of the tribe”.

    One major difference between judaism and Islam is the treatment of Jesus Christ and his mother Mary.

    Judaism declares that Jesus Christ is an apostate, “boiling in excrement for all eternity” while his mother Mary “conceived Jesus with a Roman centurion”.

    Islam declares Jesus Christ as “a great prophet, NOT the “Son of God”, but a great prophet, nonetheless, while his mother Mary is given a place of high regard in Islamic writings and culture.

    Judaism has a much greater hostility to Christianity than any other “cult”.

    It’s a shame that Christian evangelicals cannot see that they are being used by jews for their own nefarious purposes…

    • Agree: annamaria
    • Replies: @Iron Lion Zion
  456. Bookish1 says:
    @Iron Lion Zion

    I think that the evidence of a deliberate attack on the USS liberty was obvious to those that were there and they stated so.

  457. geokat62 says:
    @Iron Lion Zion

    Why can’t the Goyim understand it’s all because of Barbara ?????

    “Barbara” is short for World Jewish Congress, European Jewish Congress, Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society, Open Society Foundations, etc., etc., etc., etc.

    It’s not about Europeans NOT having children !

    You’re right. Just like the Hungarians, this issue can be addressed.

    The real issue is Jewish Supremacist Organizations (JSOs) pushing mass immigration and mass miscegenation in The West.

    Good luck with your earnest efforts trying to put The Dumb Goyim back to sleep, ILZ. You’ll need it!

    • Replies: @Iron Lion Zion
  458. @geokat62

    When do you think these arguments are going to convince the following parties?

    -CFR
    -CIA
    -Democratic Party
    -DIA
    -FBI
    -JCS
    -NSA
    -NSC
    -ODNI
    -PIAB
    -Republican Party
    -Silicon Valley
    -US Congress

    Why do you think it is that these arguments have had zero impact on the best minds in the American national security community from the 1940s to the present?

    You are winning these arguments only in your own heads. Out in the real world you are being consistently crushed. The frustration must be difficult to endure.

    But you do have Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ayanna Pressley, Ilhan Omar, Linda Sarsour and Rashida Talib in your corner. Good luck with that.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @renfro
    , @annamaria
  459. @geokat62

    Ignore Sean McBride. He is a long time zio troll on multiple sites. Those who remember the Mondoweiss days know Sean as the “list maker” – his particular style of obfuscation. If you scroll through his past comments, you can see that style used and reused exuding a fake sense of thoughtfulness.

    Back on Taxi’s blog, he used to try to convince us to switch over to Facebook – I had to swat him down at the time as I was helping Taxi set up her blog and didn’t want to have Facebook tentacles all over it. Clearly that was the right decision with all the scandal surrounding Facebook’s violation of privacy.

    renfro can add a lot more to this since he engaged with him on Friendster before it shut down.

    -Silicon Valley

    As a denizen of the valley, we are waking up faster than you know. Disregard the comments by the heads of Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc. – the serfs are rising up. Just talk to some of the Google employees – I do.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Sean McBride
  460. geokat62 says:
    @Sean McBride

    Hey, Shabbos Sean. How’s it going?

    When do you think these arguments are going to convince the following parties?

    I don’t know about all the other parties, but the US Congress, better known as Knesset West, I don’t think there is any hope in convincing all your brethren Shabbos goys about the truth.

    You are winning these arguments only in your own heads. Out in the real world you are being consistently crushed.

    Here’s where you’re wrong, Shabbos Sean. It’s the real world that is providing irrefutable proof that Diversity is not a strength. It’s an unmitigated disaster. And just as the lies underpinning Communism were exposed for all to see, so too will the lies underpinning Egalitarianism be exposed. Communism 2.0’s days are numbered, SS.

    The frustration must be difficult to endure.

    The anxiety must be difficult to endure.

    But you do have Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ayanna Pressley, Ilhan Omar, Linda Sarsour and Rashida Talib in your corner. Good luck with that.

    Great straw man argument you built there, SS, conflating the Left with the Right.

    Good luck trying to defend the defenseless, Sean.

  461. @renfro

    Regarding “core Western values”:

    Jewish culture is deeply embedded at the heart of Christian culture, and Christian culture is deeply embedded at the heart of European and Western culture. Many or most of the greatest artistic masterpieces of Western civilization — architectural works, musical works, novels, paintings, poems, etc. — are heavily infused with Jewish imagery, memes, archetypes and influence.

    Apparently you are not much of a student of Western culture.

    • Replies: @Alexandros
    , @renfro
  462. geokat62 says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    Ignore Sean McBride. He is a long time zio troll on multiple sites.

    Thanks for the heads up, C&D… appreciate it.

  463. @geokat62

    Hungary is different.
    It’s a country the used to be from behind the Iron Curtain.
    In other words, it’s not a Western country, but a post-Soviet country, a 2nd world country, in terms of culture.
    So you got Orban there, who is right-wing, and the entire culture is less tolerant to strangers.

    Is it bad? I guess it’s both good and bad.

    So Hungary decides to solve its low birth rates crisis in other means.

    But as for Western countries such as France, Germany, UK .. it seems they chose to bring into the country masses of cheap labor.

    BTW, Japan also has SEVERE cases of low birth-rates. They also face a future demographic disaster. They don’t want immigrants, so I am not sure what is their solution. Robotic working hands, maybe?

  464. @anarchyst

    The Torah says it clearly – One rule for the ger (foreigner, immigrant), widow and orphan.
    I believe it should be followed.

    I heard that in Christianity the Jews are called the followers of the Synagogue of Satan.

    Isn’t that also bad?

    As for appearances of Jesus in the Talmud, there is a debate if the figure in question really refers to Jesus. There are five instances in the Talmud that refer to “Yeshu”, with the name slightly differs from one instance to another.

  465. @Sean McBride

    Of course it is. Christianity is Jewish. We know this. But being deeply embedded into European culture? Is that why every European nation threw Christianity on the trash heap the minute the Jews allowed us to? Because it was so close to our cultural soul? Is that why the racial movement of Europe was bitterly opposed to it?

    All the great artistic masterpieces were made by Aryan artists. Their skill had little to do with being forced to sometimes include Jewish imagery. If it did one would expect to find the same great art in Judaism, but there’s nothing. A complete artistic void. 9 out of 10 times a Jew will opt for degeneracy, and the last tenth, a more subtle attempt at the same.

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
  466. @Cloak And Dagger

    My position on Silicon Valley is that, currently, it represents a tremendous threat to American democracy and even to the future of humanity. It is constructing an automated mechanism for totalitarian surveillance, profiling and thought control far beyond the imaginings of George Orwell or any other classical dystopian author one can think of.

    Services like Google, Facebook and Twitter should be treated as neutral platforms and be forbidden by law from engaging in political censorship or propagandizing of any kind. Whatever speech is legal should be permitted on those neutral platforms — including “hate speech” (which is often speech that a myriad of groups find offensive or challenging for a myriad of sketchy reasons).

    It should be noted that leftist interest groups are overwhelmingly leading the charge to Stalinize the Internet — including cultural Marxists and intersectionalists who are attempting to ignite a race war between “people of color” and whites.

    Breitbart News has done an excellent job of covering the alarming situation regarding political censorship at Google. See especially the investigative journalism of Allum Bokhari and John Nolte. Also check out the work of James O’Keefe at Project Veritas.

    The New York Times, which used to be aggressive in the defense of free speech, seems to be ok with current efforts to turn Silicon Valley into a leftist totalitarian juggernaut.

    I still think that Google is arguably the most brilliant and important company in human history to date. It needs to get in touch with its original mission (to organize the world’s knowledge) and expunge the benighted social justice warriors from its upper management.

  467. @Sean McBride

    Regarding the New York Times on free speech, from today’s edition:

    # Facebook Expands Definition of Terrorist Organizations to Limit Extremism
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/17/technology/facebook-hate-speech-extremism.html

    The author, Davey Alba, fails to mention that censorship schemes like this are almost certainly going to be massively abused by dictatorial political regimes and authoritarian official authorities all around the world.

  468. renfro says:
    @Sean McBride

    Everyone on your list already knows all about the Jewish/Israel schemes.
    That it hasn’t been totally exposed to the public is due to a combination of things.
    Mainly the ‘political and media corruption’ in the US.

    The FBI has made efforts to expose and indict the Jewish Fifth Column many times.Sometimes successful as in the Pollard case.
    Most of the time their efforts are shut down by political pressure….as in the case of congresswoman Jane Harman caught on a wire tap tape promising to interfere in the
    case against AIPAC.

    https://www.thenation.com/article/spy-story-harman-saban-and-aipac/
    Rep. Jane Harman , the California Democrat with a longtime involvement in intelligence issues, was overheard on an NSA wiretap telling a suspected Israeli agent that she would lobby the Justice Department to reduce espionage-related charges against two officials of the American Israeli Public Affairs Committee, the most powerful pro-Israel organization in Washington.
    In exchange for Harman’s help, the sources said, the suspected Israeli agent pledged to help lobby Nancy Pelosi , D-Calif., then-House minority leader, to appoint Harman chair of the Intelligence Committee after the 2006 elections, which the Democrats were heavily favored to win.
    Seemingly wary of what she had just agreed to, according to an official who read the NSA transcript, Harman hung up after saying, “This conversation doesn’t exist.”

    As said it is “Poitical Corruption’ that keeps the Jewish Fifth Column from being destroyed in the US.
    It is unfortunate that you dont have a classical education. If you did you would know that there has never been a corrupt enity of any kind, criminal or national, in all of history that didnt eventually crash and burn.

    That is what is going to happen here in the US.

    • Agree: Cloak And Dagger
    • Replies: @Sean McBride
  469. @Sean McBride

    My position on Silicon Valley is that, currently, it represents a tremendous threat to American democracy and even to the future of humanity.

    Oh give it a rest, Sean! Big epiphany! Technology has always been a boon and a threat – whether nuclear reactors or nuclear bombs.

    At this point in the evolving fate of the world, the Internet represents the biggest threat to zionist control of the narrative, as well as its primary tool for mind control. This is why Israel is pumping every influential or mass-disseminated internet site with shills and hasbarats for the last many years. I have watched the reaction to these megaphonies through the years, and their effectiveness has plummeted in recent times. Now they can barely obfuscate and disrupt conversations rather than frame a credible narrative.

    And thanks for the crocodile tears about Google. This zio-controlled company has been a bastion for Israel from when it bought Youtube and began to censor anti-zio content, as well as changing its search algorithm to censor the same.

    • Agree: renfro
    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  470. annamaria says:
    @Sean McBride

    Still attempting at scaring the readers by naming the “infidels?” The US Congress is the Israel-occupied territory. To rephrase Nell Gwyn, the congresspeople are Israeli whores.

    The Talmudists have made shamelessness into their virtue: https://thesaker.is/the-terrorists-among-us-the-coup-against-the-presidency/

    Former Green Beret Joel Harding pioneered IO [Information Operation] for the US military. In 2012, he took his expertise, the core of regime change, to the extreme for Ukrainian nationalists inside the State Department and in the US Ukrainian Diaspora. …

    By 2019, Harding’s IO success included Ukraine’s Chief Rabbi Yaakov Bleich and the namesake and grandson to Ukrainian NAZI leader Stepan Bandera working together to rehabilitate Bandera’s murderous image. Bandera is responsible for the murder of close to 500,000 Jews, and it was also his people who staffed the death camps. …

    The Ukrainian Diaspora [Lara Chelak, Andrea Chalupa, Alexandra Chalupa, Constantin Kostenko, and others] crowdfunded weapon for Ukrainian punisher battalions. … These weapons were subsequently used in war crimes. …

    This action by itself is enough to take away 5013C tax-exempt status from every Ukrainian group giving money for Ukraine’s war effort. … Just knowing that the volunteers are murdering innocent civilians with continued funding by their groups makes the Ukrainian Diaspora liable for the crimes.

    And who else has been busy arming the Banderites? — The Jewish State: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/rights-groups-demand-israel-stop-arming-neo-nazis-in-the-ukraine-1.6248727

    It does not bother the Knesset that “Bandera is responsible for the murder of close to 500,000 Jews, and it was also his people who staffed the death camps.” The minor detail of the Banderites self-proclaimed adherence to neo-Nazism has never bothered the “righteous” thugs of the ADL and Simon Wiesenthal Center, and the “righteous” whiners about shoa among other main 52 Jewish organizations in the US. American Jews are happy to cooperate with Ukrainian neo-Nazi. Ask Kagans’ clan and Carl Gerschman of NED’s bloody fame.

    Ukraine today is led by a Jewish prime-minister and Jewish president, both puppeteered by an Israeli citizen Kolomoisky (a felon and financier of Ukrainian neo-Nazis). The ziocons’ cooperation with Banderites has been working beautifully for the otherwise very loud activists of Holohoax profitable business.

  471. Ahoy says:

    @ Iron Lion Zion

    During the WW2 these were your friends against the Nazis, now you dumped them and teemed up with the Ukraine Nazis. So much for your bs about Israel is the best ally of America in the ME.

    Your tribe plays the deception game very expertly and very effectively but you must remember that no game last for ever. Give some thought to these, what do you think, are they forgoten?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=YZYjRREqUF0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=11&v=9GcjP9KVR7E.

    • Replies: @Iron Lion Zion
  472. Anonymous[681] • Disclaimer says:

    Didn’t bother reading the article but I really hope Israel remains intact and is more successful in attracting Jews from the diaspora to settle there. Jews are destroying the countries where they have generously been given a home, security and freedom, by their propensity to subtly undermine the business and morals of the host country. Long may they prosper in their own homeland and leave the rest of us alone.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  473. @Cloak And Dagger

    Great & educated comment, and thanks, Cloak And Dagger!

    Haha. Given your words below, & had Sean McBride a conscience — unconnected to the state of Israel 🙄 — we’d see him disappear out of embarrassment.

    “This is why Israel is pumping every influential or mass-disseminated internet site with shills and hasbarats for the last many years. I have watched the reaction to these megaphonies through the years, and their effectiveness has plummeted in recent times. Now they can barely obfuscate and disrupt conversations rather than frame a credible narrative.”

    👍! Thanks for your service, C&D.

  474. Art says:
    @Flint Clint

    This needs repeating.

    There are three pillars of western civilization, and three only. These are 1) The European peoples – Jews are not a European people, except when it is convenient 2) Christianity – Jews murdered Christ, and today practice a form of Satanic Babylonian Mystery religion. That is contemporary Rabbinical Pharasism. 3) The Greco-Roman legal and philosophical legacy – which Jews by and large repudiate and are seeking to destroy and replace with some from of two-tiered non-universal law characterised by oppression for the goyim and impunity for the Jew.

    Flint Clint — “Jews are not western.” So totally true. Tribal Jew think is totally inferior to the Western ethos and mindset.

    Do No Harm – (A Western idea) — Art

  475. @Art

    Tribal Jew think is totally inferior to the Western ethos and mindset.

    What load of crap. Nationalism was formed in Europe. In the West.
    Nationalism is just a wider scope of Tribalism – it’s about a bigger tribe, a nation-sized tribe. But the foundations are the same.

    Actually, you’re glorification of the West is by itself, an act of tribalism. The tribe which you seeing yourself as belong to is the “West”, or alternatively “White Race”, or alternatively “European People”. It’s all tribal concepts.

    No different from Jewish people who feel as being a part of the People of Israel.

  476. @Ahoy

    Not sure what you’re talking about.
    Again with the Azov Battalion?

    I referred to this above. Israel arms Ukraine. Not the Azov Battalion. It is Ukraine that in its turn hands over weapons to them.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  477. @Art

    btw

    Do No Harm – (A Western idea) — Art

    Funny, I saw a similar concept in both the Torah and the Talmud.

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
    , @Art
  478. @Iron Lion Zion

    And why is it that the Europeans aren’t having children?

    Well perhaps you can observe why, if you notice the Jewish members of the Reichstag in the Green party along with most members of the CDU, scoffing, hissing, booing, and screaming down the AfD when they discuss using domestic policies to promote German child-birth. It was quite amazing.

    And watching Jewish members of the Green party openly celebrating the demise of entire German cities to transform into colonies of Africa.

    And then it is Jews who erect anti free-speech laws that make it illegal to criticise them, or to criticise their imported proxy invading nations. It is not permitted to question Jewish preferences in most of Europe. Now they’re doing the same thing in Australia.

    Look at section 93Z of the New South Wales Crimes Act 1900. It was demanded by the Australian Jewish Board of Deputies and the Australian Council of Jewry. It now punishes with 2 years in prison in Australia statements that cause ‘psychological violence’ a spurious Jewish concept if there ever was one, to any invading Australia, over the Australian Europeans. It was demanded by the ‘Keep NSW Safe Alliance’ led by the Jewish Board of Deputies and Vic Alhadeef. It purports to be universal, but in practice, it doesn’t apply to those with ‘white privilege’ that diverting term from very real ‘Jewish privilege’ that Unz has covered here in ‘The Myth of American Meritocracy’ and elsewhere.

    And now the Australian Council of Jewry wants to make it illegal to criticise their activities and their proxy activities at the Federal level – under Peter Wertheim.

    And it is the Jewish lobby in Australia that is constantly exercising for more immigration. They were held in abeyance by Tony Abbot, but eventually the legal immigration is going to be so overwhelming the immigrants will vote for more immigrants – as has been often pointed out approvingly by Jews like Paul Krugman.

    That’s not just ‘it’s your fault goyim for not having children’. The younger generations know every well they need to have children, and they are having children. But they’re still being swamped by illegal immigrants and legal immigrants Jew’s seek to replace them with as a preferred class of labour.

    Absent Jewish opposition, every western nation right now would have a majority sufficient to end immigration, accept a temporary drop in standards of living but the preservation of culture, and the promotion of policies to build local populations. But that can’t happen, because of Jewish opposition.

    It is also Jews who have lied relentlessly about for example, Australia’s relationship with the aborigines, or Irelands relationship with the English, or the Canadian people’s relationship with their local inuit. All to undermine and subvert their legitimacy and right to exist.

    When Israel of course, was the product of mass-murder.

    It’s the same in every single western state.

    Every single time a European political party seeks to use policies to promote domestic child-birth, it is Jewish groups, usually led by a Board of Deputies, B’nai B’rith and sundry others that oppose it, and call it ‘racist’.

    It is also Jewish groups, in their hundreds, who demand the immigration of aliens into the West.

    It is Jewish academics and Jewish ”Scientists” above all who push for the family to be destroyed and replaced by, at best, communal socialist family structures, but for the most part, totally broken non-nuclear families. And every single progenitor of the worst excesses of feminism, transgenderism, and homosexuality and pedophilia is Jewish in origin. It’s actually quite unbelievable, and I still can’t quite believe it. But it is thus.

    And you simply bypassed the implications of Jeffrey Epstein. That was a child-sex operation snaring thousands of people for the purposes of blackmail most likely for the benefit of Israel. But Jewish media can only find pedophiles among the gentiles. Except on very rare occasions, as here:

    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/qbe8bp/the-child-rape-assembly-line-0000141-v20n11

    You make my point for me. If ‘the west’ ‘came to Judea’ even accepting that designation, that means Judea is not the West, does it not?

    Jews hold all influence. As I said, we live in a Jewish-Phoenecian Matrix. Practically every single idea or lie that we are taught is Jewish in origin. But that doesn’t mean Jews are western. It means Jews have successfully subverted the West to the point it’s almost indiscernable to most people. We have a Jewish uniparty. The only thing the Congress and Senate can support unanimously is the cessation of constitutional rights to expiate Jewish preferences.

    Again you make the point – yes, you can find Muslims in the West now, thanks to Jews. But those Muslims aren’t western, anymore then Jews are.

    And again you make the point – Jews were living among Christians among the West. But the entire point of Jewish history is the assertion of separation and difference. Living among, does not mean same as.

    Christianity is intrinsically opposed to Judaism. Christ apparently boils in a vat of excremet in the Talmud, not because the Jews celebrated Christ.

    Please don’t be misled by cucked fake-Christians trying to say Christianity is just another form of amoral depraved Tikkun Olam masquerading as Good Samaratanism.

    The fat retard Evangelical Christians who Jews so despise and farm like pigs will die out with the Boomers. You’ll have to convince the Hispanics.

    You also lie about Palestine.

    https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/1911_Encyclopædia_Britannica/Palestine

    “There is no ancient geographical term that covers all this area. Till the period of the Roman occupation it was subdivided into independent provinces or kingdoms, different at different times (such as Philistia, Canaan, Judah, Israel, Bashan, &c.), but never united under one collective designation. The extension of the name of Palestine beyond the limits of Philistia proper is not older than the Byzantine Period….”

    “Since 1870 there has been a steady development of Jewish immigration, consisting principally of refugees from countries where anti-Semitism is an important element in politics. Baron de Rothschild has invested large sums in Jewish colonies, but at the commencement of the present century he handed over their administration to the Jewish Colonization Association. ”

    Ashkenazi are invading alien settlers who colonised the land of Palestine. Now they seek to impose the same kind of oppression and persecution onto western nations that they have imposed on the Palestinians – from the proliferation of pornography to bipartite laws – all covered with lies about universalism and mutual benefit.

    Israeli’s in truth are merely ‘neo-Palestinians’. The same way they designate their invaders into Europe as ‘neo-Europeans’.

    It’s just the inveterate lying that grates. As I said, lies, piled upon lies, piled upon lies.

    Every formative aspect of our existence these days practically is a Jewish lie.

    100 years after the Spaniards kicked out the Jews, they ruled over the wealthiest, most powerful empire on Earth. Irrelevancy on the world stage? The Spanish empire didn’t even reach its apogee for another 300 years! To the contrary, barely 100 years after the USA first permitted mass Jewish immigration, it has lost its global power, it is deeply in debt, it is demoralized in literally every sense of the term, it has been invaded by tens of millions of foreigners, and is now on the verge of complete political collapse.

    Keep lying. History keeps repeating. It’s an absolute joke. How do you people believe your own lies with such impervious acuity?

    • Replies: @Sean McBride
  479. @Iron Lion Zion

    Complete nonsense.

    How can you comment on these lines on this website of all places?

    All anyone has to do is click on ‘The Strange Religion’ and they know you are false. There may be a similar concept in the Talmud, but how does it apply to non-Jews? It doesn’t.

    • Replies: @Iron Lion Zion
  480. @Iron Lion Zion

    The foundations of nationalism are nothing like the same as Jewish proscribed notions of literally having a different soul essence, and having a higher soul form in the hierarchy of souls, and purer blood, then the mass of goyim animals.

    Nationalists don’t say others are different in kind, only different in relation. Jews see all non-Jews as different in kind. The nationalist American respects other nationalisms, in a universal sense. As does the nationalist German.

    But the West is recognised as superior because it is, at least it was, until it was subverted successfuly by Jews.

    How frustrating it must be to the Jews like David Spengler that China is not going to allow the diaspora to pivot into China. Jews will be left to reap the consequences of what they have sown in the West.

    My god you people lie with such consummate ease it’s quite remarkable.

    Nationalism also isn’t Zionism.

    Jews can’t keep playing these games. And reality isn’t going to permit it.

    • Replies: @Iron Lion Zion
  481. @Alexandros

    Pagan LARPING is just immaturity and nonsense.

    The only possible form of western collective identity that the Jews fear is Christian nationalism.

    Not Churchian neo-Tikkun Olam Good Samartanism.

    Real Christian nationalism.

    You need to read more to understand the natural progression from paganism – the child sacrifice, the rape, the chaos and violence and depravity, to Christianity.

    Judiasm aka Babylonian Pharasiacal Rabbinism is just another form of degenerate Paganism.

    Christian Europe was strong and resisted the Muslim world and the world generally for thousands of years. It has taken a bare few centuries since the Jewish originated secular revolutions have left Europe and Europeans prostrate.

  482. @Iron Lion Zion

    The tribe which you seeing yourself as belong to is the “West”, or alternatively “White Race”, or alternatively “European People”. It’s all tribal concepts.

    No different from Jewish people who feel as being a part of the People of Israel.

    What you admitting here is that Jewish nationalism and white nationalism are equivalent. Nor is one brand of ethnic or tribal nationalism more legitimate or righteous than the other.

    My prediction is that if Zionism (Jewish nationalism) is going to survive, it will need to come to an arrangement with various expressions of European and white nationalism which involve mutual defense against anti-Western globalist and nationalist movements.

    Presently, the activities of cultural Marxists and intersectionalists are almost guaranteeing this development.

    • Replies: @Iron Lion Zion
  483. @Flint Clint

    Every single time a European political party seeks to use policies to promote domestic child-birth, it is Jewish groups, usually led by a Board of Deputies, B’nai B’rith and sundry others that oppose it, and call it ‘racist’.

    This policy is likely to be reversed during the coming decade — the 2020s. Israeli strategic calculus will dictate it.

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
  484. @renfro

    It is unfortunate that you dont have a classical education. If you did you would know that there has never been a corrupt enity of any kind, criminal or national, in all of history that didnt eventually crash and burn.

    Actually, I do have a classical education, and that is why I know that all political regimes are corrupt and that all political regimes crash and burn. Some last longer than others, but you know they are all going down soon enough. The perpetual human churn.

  485. renfro says:
    @Sean McBride

    Jewish culture is deeply embedded at the heart of Christian culture,


    Let me educate you a bit.

    Judaism and Christianity got a divorce 2000 yrs ago over irreconcilable differences.
    Judeo Christian when it was first used centuries ago referred to Jews who had converted to Christianity.
    The effort to combine Judaism with Christianity actually began in the 1930’s when anti semitism was growing in the US due to Jewish immigration. It consisted basically of some rabbis and pastors trying to hold meetings between Jews and Christians . The effort continued into the 40’s because of the antisemitism among the armed forces during WWll.
    Christian ‘Zionism ‘ actually took hold after WWll as religious fanatics incorporated the holocaust into their doomsday vision of the second coming where the Jews would be converted or die.
    Then the usual suspects among the Jews grew it as a political tool
    Theologian and author Arthur A. Cohen, in The Myth of the Judeo-Christian Tradition, questioned the theological validity of the Judeo-Christian concept and suggested that it was essentially an invention of American politics.

    You need to educate yourself.
    The Myth of the Judeo-Christian Tradition
    https://www.amazon.com/Judeo-Christian-Tradition-Other-Dissenting-Essays/dp/0805202935

    Many or most of the greatest artistic masterpieces of Western civilization — architectural works, musical works, novels, paintings, poems, etc. — are heavily infused with Jewish imagery, memes, archetypes and influence.

    I see you also do not know art and the difference between Jewish and Greek. There is no Jewish imagery , that is Greek imagery that dominated European and western civilization..
    There was also no jewish influence on western writtings, those who did influence western civilization ..Homer, Sophocles ,Aristophanes , Dante ,Chaucer, etc.. As for music the Gregorian chant (ca 500-1000) of the Catholics is a beautiful piece of music that emerged in the dark ages and endures today. Best composers-German, best opera- Italy. The Jews produced nothing in the budding of western civilization. Jewish composers of the last decades had to be exposed to the gentile culture and take their inspiration from that. Their novels however even today mosty trash like Portneys Complaint and Saul Belows jewish angst filled tales.

    Sorry dear boy, but you are a prime example Jewishness, those who see themselves as …’the bride at every wedding, the corpse at every funeral”.

    • Replies: @Sean McBride
  486. renfro says:
    @Iron Lion Zion

    That’s a lot of data .. showing how powerful and valuable Israel is to the world economics

    LOL

    I could drive across Israel in 2 hours and from tip to tip in 4 hours.

    Imagine what ‘s going to happen to you when Israel makes its last mistake.

    • Replies: @Iron Lion Zion
  487. @Flint Clint

    Yes, it applies to non-Jews as well.

    https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/689306/jewish/On-One-Foot.htm

    One famous account in the Talmud (Shabbat 31a) tells about a gentile who wanted to convert to Judaism. This happened not infrequently, and this individual stated that he would accept Judaism only if a rabbi would teach him the entire Torah while he, the prospective convert, stood on one foot. First he went to Shammai, who, insulted by this ridiculous request, threw him out of the house. The man did not give up and went to Hillel. This gentle sage accepted the challenge, and said:

    “What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the whole Torah; the rest is the explanation of this—go and study it!”

  488. @Sean McBride

    Zionism is being on par with any other type of nationalism.
    As for White nationalism in particular, it’s a strange bird, that exists mostly on the New World in countries of immigrants like the US or Canada. There is no “White Nationalism” in Europe, where everyone is European and White.
    Personally, I don’t see how Whites form a “nation”. They clearly don’t. French form a nations. Germans form a nation. Jews form a nation. But Whites? I ain’t certain.

    Anyway, Zionism is on par with other forms of nationalism. It’s just Jewish nationalism.

    • Replies: @Sean McBride
  489. @renfro

    Good luck, you’d stuck in traffic.

  490. @Sean McBride

    Israel isn’t ascendant.

    It is the ancient trillionaire banking families who control the issuance of credit, and the Billionaires of the MEGA Group and their affiliates who decide national and international policy. Israel is just a back-up in their wider plan for international revolution.

    The Jews are using South Africa as their use-case. The Boer have not resisted their destruction, and the proliferation of lies wielded against them by Jews, and their casual rapine and murder.

    The assumption is the rest of the European nations will follow suit.

    And per Guillame Faye, they may well be right. Whites will be reduced to a totally obliterated and subjugated racial minority exiled from the operation of their governments and possession of their former territories. They will be ruled by Jews acting in collaboration with elites from the many non-white races Jews imported to replace whites. These elites in turn will keep their communities from ever seeking emancipation.

    It’s just unbelievable to see. But Faye believes there may yet be a spark. What happens post-Trump is anyone’s guess.

    Read Miles Mathis. The sheer scale and extent to which we live in a Jewish matrix is quite unfathomable and still difficult to grasp. Most will never accept it. The preference of the governor’s is as laid out in the Kalergi plan, a people just intelligent enough to work and be parasited off, but not intelligent enough to ever present a threat to the new world order.

    But I hold out hope that whites will not allow themselves to be eradicated. What happens post Trump is quite frightening. The world is going to see some convulsions.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  491. @Flint Clint

    Saying the Goyim are animals is distorting Jewish Thought.
    The Goyim are not animals. In Psalms it is written clearly that the Earth was given to human beings.
    The difference between a Jew and a non-Jew is spiritual, no more. There is no biological difference.
    And conversion is always possible.

  492. Art says:
    @Iron Lion Zion

    Do No Harm – (A Western idea) — Art

    Funny, I saw a similar concept in both the Torah and the Talmud.

    “Funny” – really – how about reality — ask the Palestinians about the concepts of the Torah and Talmud. How about the apartheid and total lack of empathy for humanity that flows out of them.

    We all know that the overwhelming preponderance of the words in those books are negative to humanity.

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Art

  493. @renfro

    I am not endorsing Christian Zionism or a propagandized version of “the Judeo-Christian tradition.”

    I am simply pointing out that Western culture for many centuries enshrined and dramatized Old Testament images, memes and themes that were regarded by Christians themselves as the foundation stone of Christianity: Moses, King David, Jerusalem, Samson, the promised land, etc.

    See, for instance, John Milton’s Samson Agonistes (1671):

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Agonistes

    Many generations of Europeans and Americans have been deeply indoctrinated in this biblical mythos. They imbibed it with their mother’s milk.

    This is why so many non-Jewish European and American tourists are eager to visit Israel’s “holy sites.” Jewish culture has been deeply interwoven with Western culture since the dawn of Christianity.

    There is another angle on this: the role of cabalism in Freemasonry.

  494. Art says:
    @Iron Lion Zion

    Actually, you’re glorification of the West is by itself, an act of tribalism.

    The West is “idealistic Christianity in practice” – it is universal – it is not limited to one nation or one continent or one biological color.

    Geographic north south east and west all want some measure of what the idealistic Christian West has created.

    No one wants what the Jews have created in apartheid Israel. The ancient thinking Torah and Talmud are fallow.

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Art

  495. Art says:
    @Iron Lion Zion

    No different from Jewish people who feel as being a part of the People of Israel.

    Not true — see Gilad Atzmon — Jews vs. Israelis.

    http://www.unz.com/gatzmon/jews-vs-israelis/

    Jews see themselves FIRST and foremost as Tribal Jews — then as Israelis. This is true for most all Jews all over the world.

    Jews are separatists based on biologically – the West is an all inclusive philosophical ideal – it is intellectually driven.

    Think Peace — Hopeful Idealism — Art

    • Replies: @Iron Lion Zion
  496. Incitatus says:
    @geokat62

    Good questions, geo.

    I’ll be honest. When any modest American (like me) worries about who gets “King’s Medal from the king of Sweden” for what-ever-the-hell reason, it’s all off. Same thing with the Nobel dynamite blessing.

    Don’t get me wrong. I have many Norse antecedents (a wide cabinet of Viking raiders). Himmler would have loved me.

    “If you think BS is small potatoes, what do you think about Georgy Schwartz… er, I mean George Soros and his Open Society Foundations?”

    Don’t agree with BS or GS, just think (as a farm boy) there are larger wolves in the pasture. Health Care, Insurance, Real Estate, Finance, Defense, Pharma, etc. Doesn’t matter who they are.

    Be honest. You offer Babs Spectre (a single nut-case) as proof of world-wide conspiracy. Easy internet pickens.

    George Soros? Doubtless he throughs money around (most I’d probably disagree with), but then cardinal Wasp/Techno Pirate Bill Gates does the same thing (and more in Africa). That’s the age we live in.

    “So, Incy, it all boils down to this: if you support a homeland for the Jewish people, you should be supportive of a homeland for all other peoples, including European and European-derived peoples. So, are you a Zionist?”

    Two questions.

    I support a stable ‘homeland’ (security, right to life and a living) for all peoples. Including Palestinians. Spent twenty+ years building in the Gulf, lived in KSA.

    I also favor each person’s “pursuit of happiness”.

    To the extent Israel robs Palestinians of that, then I oppose them. To the extent Saudis rob Yemenis of that, I oppose them. To the extent Americans rob others, then I oppose it.

    Zionist? Don’t think so. Against imperial Eretz Israel (never traveled there). Against Iraq War 1990 and 2003. Against war in Yemen. Against the Iran-Iraq War, Against US-Iran now.

    “Cheney and his puppet clone hawk daughter are sending us into another war for Israel. But you already knew that.”

    Indeed. With ideologues like Cotton, the greatest danger.

    As for the Israeli spying, prosecute them to the full letter of the law, and let the record be public.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  497. anon[117] • Disclaimer says:

    Aumann, a professor at Hebrew University, won the 2005 Nobel Prize in economics for his work on game theory.

    He is known for holding staunch right-wing views and has applied game theory to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, arguing Israel’s complete withdrawal from the Gaza Strip in 2005 made reaching a peace agreement more difficult by incentivizing violence against the Jewish state.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/nobel-winner-says-extremist-party-sent-fake-messages-touting-his-support/

    Quite a few Israelis whose nobel prize should be taken away . that nation is rotten to the core

    • Replies: @annamaria
  498. geokat62 says:
    @Incitatus

    Be honest. You offer Babs Spectre (a single nut-case) as proof of world-wide conspiracy. Easy internet pickens.

    Be honest. You neglected to acknowledge the post-it note on SPLC Mark Potok’s wall. You know the transformation of Western societies is on the cards. Yet, you continue to suggest other issues are more pressing? Very strange bird, indeed!

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  499. Robjil says:
    @Iron Lion Zion

    You forgot how the Ashkenazis came to be. Poland, Catholic Kings, invited 25000 Jews in 1025 to Poland. This 25000 grew to many millions by the 19th century. They were the Elite as merchants and money lenders for centuries. Poland was called a Jewish Paradise, for Polish Nobles it was a Purgatory and for the peasants it was a Hell. There are so many Ashkenazis in the world because of the Catholic Polish kings. Many are third or fourth cousins of each other since they came from such a small group that came into Poland. When they grew to such large numbers, they settled in areas outside the Polish commonwealth, like Hungary and Romania.

    When Russia took over the Polish Commonwealth, it was surprised how much power the Jewish merchant/money lending class had over the peasants. Russia sent up the Pale of Settlement to protect her peasants. It did not work so good in 1917. Hundreds of thousands, millions perhaps of Ashkenazis flooded into non- Pale of Settlement parts of the Russia empire to take over positions all over the Russian Empire to create a Jewish ruled Soviet Union.

    https://www.polin.pl/en/wystawy-wystawa-glowna-galerie/paradisus-iudaeorum

    The year 1569 saw the emergence of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, made up of the Kingdom of Poland and the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. Within this powerful and ethnically and religiously diverse state, the Jewish community grew strong in numbers, and its culture flourished. It was a Golden Age in the history of Polish Jews, lasting from the sixteenth to the first half of the seventeenth century.

    During this period Jews enjoyed a high degree of autonomy: they had their own self-government, including the Council of Four Lands (Vaad Arba Aratsot) – a phenomenon unique in Europe. Unlike in other countries, they experienced no mass religious persecution. On the contrary – they could develop their learning, print books, and sometimes even debate with Christian intellectuals. It is precisely at this time that prominent authorities on Jewish religious law lived and wrote. In the town of Kazimierz near Krakow, at the very heart of an influential Jewish community, the famous rabbi and thinker Moses Isserles, known as Remuh, wrote the Mappah, a collection of customs and religious precepts for Ashkenazi Jews. The second half of the sixteenth century brought yet another change: encouraged by the nobility, Jews began to settle on vast noble estates (latifundia) in the east of the country. They engaged in new activities: leasing inns, mills and breweries, trading in grain and cattle.

  500. @Robjil

    Yeah of course.

    Of course. Of course. Of course the Jews were prosperous and granted every freedom. Because they say instead that Poland was a hell-hole of pogroms and persecution.

    Inveterate liars. So the of course the opposite must be true.

    And now it looks like they’ve jewed themselves in Israel because the Arab party may have a swing vote.

    Unreal.

    Told all my life that the poles were vicious anti-semites, and of course it’s exactly the opposite.

    Liars, liars, liars, and theives.

    • Agree: Robjil
  501. @Robjil

    Ok. What’s your point?

    Also :

    Hundreds of thousands, millions perhaps of Ashkenazis flooded into non- Pale of Settlement parts of the Russia empire to take over positions all over the Russian Empire to create a Jewish ruled Soviet Union.

    What’s up with this repetitive narrative of Jews taking over positions? Making it sound so easy.
    A minority group just gets into a new place, and start taking over important positions. Just like that?
    If it’s so easy, what prevented other minority groups from doing the same?

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @anon
    , @anon
    , @anon
  502. @Art

    Not true — see Gilad Atzmon — Jews vs. Israelis.

    Jews see themselves FIRST and foremost as Tribal Jews — then as Israelis. This is true for most all Jews all over the world.

    Atzmon is no expert to Jews. He left Israel in 1994, and never set a foot in it ever since.
    I commented on this article, I said it’s an individual question. Every Israeli may hold BOTH a Jewish-identity and an Israeli-identity, side by side. Some people will feel more Jewish, some will feel more Israelis. Some will feel both identities playing an equal role in their identity.

    Jews are separatists based on biologically – the West is an all inclusive philosophical ideal – it is intellectually driven.

    Wishful thinking, nationalism is based on biology in many cases. Including in the West. Actually, in the Jewish case biology plays a lesser role. Why? Because Jews were scattered all over the world, mixing with the locals in different regions, so Jews didn’t keep their blood “pure”. Plus, you can convert into Judaism, and then you’re Jewish, despite having no blood connection to Jews.

  503. Ace says:
    @Iron Lion Zion

    Israel bet everything on their plan to murder all the American crew by sinking the ship quickly. They failed to do this, machinegunning some survivors abandoning ship in the process. (The Egyptian crew of a horse transport cannot, of course, be permitted to live, the risk to Israel being too immense.)

    Having failed in their treachery, they had no choice but to “inform” the US. They knew full well what the survivors would soon report.

    Israel then and since proved, has proved, and is proving it is a mortal enemy of America.

    • Replies: @Iron Lion Zion
    , @anarchyst
  504. annamaria says:
    @Anonymous

    “Long may they prosper in their own homeland and leave the rest of us alone.”

    — Wouldn’t it be great to see such Israeli assets in the US Congress as the senile Ben Cardin the hustler to move finally to their promised land?

    Cardin’s most important “gift” to the US was the Magnitskt Act that extolled a well-known fraudster to the status of a saint and truth-seeker while destroying the US-Russia relationships and endangering the whole humanity: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/magnitskiy-myth-exploded
    Comment section:

    Bill Browder is another one of that class of criminal Jews who have brought mayhem on the peoples of Eastern Europe and Russia. Now he, like his fellow criminals in the Russian version of the Kosher Nostra, is going around pretending to be champions of human rights.

    That Browder is a class “A” fraud, looking to make easy money during the benighted Yeltsin years, is pretty evident. No different from that brood of vultures who descended from New York to feast on the former Soviet Union during those years.

    “The Magnitsky Act” movie has been banned by the zionized media eager to protect Browder



    Browder is also accused of several arranged murders in Russia; the accusation is much more believable than MSM claims that Browder is a fighter for democracy.
    Not surprisingly, Browder is connected to the same people that were “instrumental” in making Epstein
    http://www.unz.com/ishamir/the-good-fortune-of-mr-browder/
    https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/magnitsky-affair-the-murder-of-edmond-safra-in-monaco/

  505. annamaria says:
    @Iron Lion Zion

    Israeli citizen Kolomojsky has been the main financier of the Azov Battalion. Check Wall Street Journal fawning article about Kolomojsky. Not a peep from your holobiz thugs.

  506. annamaria says:
    @anon

    “Aumann, a professor at Hebrew University, won the 2005 Nobel Prize…”
    — Ah, the Obama the “Peacemaker” club. All you have achieved with your vicious tribalism is a well-deserved skepticism about Jewish “intellectuals.”

  507. @geokat62

    Hey geo!

    As you know, InZitatus is a cunning Zionist U.R.-commenter, and in order to advance his obfuscating mission when an intelligent & principled other engages his M.O., the Land of Bilk & Money prey trappper, InZitatus, offers decent words like this,”Good questions, geo.”

    Haha. But when you eat from his tempting Israeli vine,😟 on you does he gluttonously dine!

    Lastly, I note how you importuned InZitatus to “Be honest.” (Zigh) No doubt, he is a “strange bird.” Haha. And the best he can be*is a fruity tree top resident, Truther-mockingbird.

    So thanks & my respect to uber-Gentleman, geokat!

    * During mid to late 1990’s, the US Army’s popular recruiting slogan was, “Be all you can be and join the Army!” No doubt, InZitatus does the best he can to promote & excuse Israel’s flexible & injudicious use of my “Homeland’s” Zionized military. 🙄

  508. @Flint Clint

    What kind of mental deficiency is it that makes you Christcucks think everybody who doesn’t submit to your Jewish creed is a pagan? Are you so deluded you think Jewry holds monopoly on religion?

    The Jew never feared Christianity. That is an absurd notion when it was the Jew who spread the creed in the West. The same Marxist ideals that had been espoused since Socrates. The only link to Christian Nationalism is confused Aryans who could not let go of their superstitions. A fringe movement then and even more so now. Like Jewish National Socialists.

    So why did the Jew start to attack his own Golem? Because like the horse after the advent of the automobile, it had served its purpose. Now that Christian Love had allowed the Jew to fully entrench himself in Aryan society, it was time to do away with the few positive traits Christianity contained. Traits needed to deceive the white man initially. Like defending the land from simple minded Arabs.

    These days it can no longer do even that. On the contrary the Jewish core of Christianity has blossomed fully, and naturally, both Protestant and Catholic leadership are now open advocates of degeneracy. It’s also somewhat bizarre to see a Christian talking about his civilizing qualities when as late as WW2 Christian bishops put millions of our racial brothers to the sword. Not because they weren’t Christian, but because it was the wrong type of Christianity. And despite this you continue to believe Christian lies about Aryan barbarity. Below is an excerpt from one of the few text that survived Christian love and tolerance. Read here the truth about your foreign religion, from your own ancestors:

    [MORE]

    While the doctrine of Jessos was thus spreading over the earth, the false priests went to the land of his birth to make his death known. They said they were his friends, and they pretended to show great sorrow by tearing their clothes and shaving their heads. They went to live in caves in the mountains, but in them they had hid all their treasures, and they made in them images of Jessos. They gave these statues to simple people, and at last they said that Jessos was a god, that he had declared this himself to them, and that all those who followed his doctrine should enter his kingdom hereafter, where all was joy and happiness. Because they knew that he was opposed to the rich, they announced everywhere that poverty, suf- fering, and humility were the door by which to enter into his kingdom, and that those who had suffered the most on earth should enjoy the greatest happiness there. Although they knew that Jessos had taught that men should regu- late and control their passions, they taught that men should stifle their passions, and that the perfection of humanity consisted in being as unfeeling as the cold stones. In order to make the people believe that they did as they preached, they pretended to outward poverty; and that they had overcome all sensual feelings, they took no wives. But if any young girl had made a false step, it was quickly for- given ; the weak, they said, were to be assisted, and to save their souls men must give largely to the Church. Acting in this way, they had wives and children without house- holds, and were rich without working; but the people grew poorer and more miserable than they had ever been before. This doctrine, which requires the priests to pos- sess no further knowledge than to speak deceitfully, and to pretend to be pious while acting unjustly, spreads from east to west, and will come to our land also.

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
  509. @Ace

    Nothing in this story makes sense.

    1. It was the 4th day of the Six Day War. Israel was already winning. The Egyptians were totally wrecked and Sinai was already captured.

    2. USS Liberty was attacked from the air, and later on was approached by Israeli torpedo boats. The USS Liberty fired at these boats, and they returned fire. If the Israel had two whole hours to take out the USS Liberty, why it did not sink it with the torpedo boats?

    So nothing makes sense here, Israel could have easily sunk that ship, killing all of its members, but instead it informed the US of the incident.

    Anyway, the USS Liberty was not supposed being there. The US obligated to get ships out of this area. This ship was apparently spying after Israel. Maybe Israel attacked the ship because it took part in espionage? Maybe that was the motive? Still sounds strange, but that means the US isn’t innocent here.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Oscar Peterson
  510. annamaria says:
    @Iron Lion Zion

    “what prevented other minority groups from doing the same?”

    — What about respect for the hosts? Presence of dignity in treating “others” as compared to the institutionalized shamelessness? Dershowitz, Epstein, Maxwells, Krystolls, Perle, Kagans… Do you recognize the common traits in their behavior?

    • Agree: Robjil
  511. anon[348] • Disclaimer says:
    @Iron Lion Zion

    Why does some rat suggest that Zionism/ Israel is America ‘s best ally ?

    It has bribed politicians like Truman , made threats to lives of Truman and Churchill It killed British politicians . The Zionism /Israel used American money and power to bully UN members .

    It has poisoned the politics from 1913
    It has given America anti American Chief Justices like Brandeis and Frankfurter
    It has planted worst spies and double agents in Roosevelt and Truman administration .
    It has used its underdog status to get entry into political parties , academy , school board , city administration , pentagon, military and fiancés . Once that we’re achieved , it has blocked the doors to those who are absolutely pro-American but not pro-Israel from those bodies

    It has used Holocaust genocide Pogrom and antisemitism canard to distort existing laws , impose new laws , created threat to freedom , liberty , and emasculated free thinking because it would allow anti American sentiment to be expressed but not any anti -Zionism sentiment to be expressed anywhere .

    It has prevented publication of book , the Zionism/Israel has prevented speech and lectures , it has removed books from library , from school curricula , it has forced re-education openly targeting any politicians or gov employed person , academics or student sometimes because they had expressed opinions that didnt agree with Zionism/ Israel ideas of reality .

    Zionism/ Israel which capture the entity like PNAC FDD and Israeli Project or Labor Friend of Israel or Republican Jewish Section or Conservative Fridnd of Israel or French version of AIPAC — you get the picture -and have often turned them into tax free entities to advance Zionism and corrode Western interests when necessary which are often the case.

    It maintains its stability by diverting attention away from its internal contradictions and divert attention from its murderous actions by fomenting trouble outside .

    It has stolen American military nuclear and pharmaceuticals secrets
    It has cost American in trade secret theft more than 200 billions
    It has repeatedly endangered American lives in ME

    It has forced America to go to war against Iraq against Syria and practically has forced US declare war against Iran .
    It has allowed France and Britain and America to maintain a war footing position against Libya Somalia Yemen and it forced the creation of S Sudan .

    It has worldwide penetrated and cultivated the most repellant movements and organizations to advance its interest from Saudi Arab to Brazil and declared war on public friendly movements of Brazil, and Argentina of last decade , it has destroyed Honduras as a viable nation .
    This thuggish philosophy has declared the worth of the best among the goym is less than the worst among the Jews
    It has sanctioned killing of babies and children to prevent them becoming adult anti zionists .

    It has never helped America against China or Russia .
    It has shielded criminals fleeing Russia or America

    This is a criminal entity .
    It forced Arab fight Arab and then say ‘ we didn’t kill anybody ‘
    It forced West fight ME and then it says ‘ we don’t kill “

    It creates refuge crisis and then it says ‘ look what refuge is doing to you “

    It has been telling for decades like those 5 dancing Israeli did “ we are not your problem . Palestinians are your problem “ while dancing all the way to the evil dream of the Zionism .

    .

    • Agree: annamaria
  512. anarchyst says:
    @Ace

    There’s more…israel jammed international distress frequencies in order to keep the Liberty from communicating its situation.
    A brave American sailor was able to reconnect an antenna, thereby enabling communication with the 6th fleet.
    israel KNEW that it was an American ship, and with complicity at the highest levels of the U S government (Lyndon Johnson and Robert McNamara) being “in on the deal” charges of treason against Johnson and McNamara would not have been out of line.
    If I had my way, israel would have been turned into a “glass parking lot” on 9 June 1967.

  513. anon[348] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wally

    J thinks that you have forgot that Sunday follows Saturday .
    To him and his ilk – each moment is unique and has no connection to the moment before or after unless those moments portray the brilliance intelligence and uniqueness of Zionism.

    They now even go to India and reminds Indian how the Jews also fought successfully against English colonialism in the land of the biblical Israel .

  514. anon[348] • Disclaimer says:
    @Iron Lion Zion

    Dennis Ross and Indyk forced this requirements on American Middle East negotiating team that no Arab origin non Jewish would never be allowed to conduct the negotiations on behalf of America .

    Chutzpah!!! It’s worse . They should have been thrown out of the country to some gulag because those 2 bastards have been conducting US ‘s ME policies .

    Somebody paid someone , someone threatened someone, someone cried to somebody about past pogrom and anti Semitism , and done reminded somebody that they had the evidences of some personal stuff to make sure these types of people get the job stay on the job and debate about American interests in ME .

    Kristol bragged @ we have got State dept ridden of Arabist “ .

    His mirror image of same shit Krauthammer got away with saying ‘ Virginia tech shooter was Ishmael and was influenced “by Islamic ideas . He should have told that his entire world view about economy politics war – all are influenced by Zionism and Israeli interests . That shit head didn’t have the guts to speak the truth . He then comes to occupy the positions given by Fox and print media .

    When Arab try to build a center as Park 51 , it’s they who mount campaign
    It’s they who mount campaign when Iran sends Christmas message ,

    When the Arab build commercial activities likeDubsi buying Port Authority , it’s they who mount hateful campaign
    It’s they who say ‘ we are building houses and communities “ while deriding Palestinian terrorism that were in responses to Israeli demolition of schools and buildings .

  515. annamaria says:
    @Iron Lion Zion

    “…the USS Liberty was not supposed being there”

    — Your openly indecent remark explains why the Jewish State should be denied any US assistance, ASAP.

  516. anon[593] • Disclaimer says:
    @Iron Lion Zion

    May be it was the extraordinary successes of those oligarchs that swayed Russia to throw them out of the country or made them flee

    Throughout the human existence , Jews have been asked to leave cities lands villages occupations and professions. Other have been allowed to mingle assimilate accommodate and even influence the local values and cultures . That is human history .
    Jewish history is history of bribes corruption aggrandizing , grandstanding ,and imposing . . When those stances and practices are threatened , they impose wars .

  517. @Altai

    “It means Israel incorporates more and more Palestinians that it can’t disengage from by keeping within it’s existing borders and it means damaging the bi-partisan consensus with Trump’s polarising association.”

    I hope this is true, but I’m somewhat skeptical.

    Who says Israel can’t disengage from the Palestinians? It is waging a quiet war to drive down Palestinian birthrates and drive out young Palestinians from the West Bank in search of work and prevent them from returning.

    Close attention should be paid to the Palestinian demographic dynamics. I would not underestimate the ability of the Judenreich to do to the Palestinians of the West Bank in a subtle, cunning way what it claims to have done to the Canaanites.

    The economic collapse (or at least decay) of Israel based on Orthodox demographics sounds plausible, particularly if China is ultimately able to dethrone the US dollar, thereby blowing up the American subsidy machine to Israel.

  518. @Iron Lion Zion

    No, the US was not “obligated to get ships out of this area.”

    Still, I agree that there was no plausible motive for a deliberate Israeli attack on a ship known to be American.

    There are so many other even more repulsive features of the Judenreich that focusing on the USS Liberty is simply not productive. This mendacious, self-absorbed, deeply parasitic state is so disgusting in so many ways that no one should get side-tracked on that sad incident.

    Just to be clear, I’m sympathetic to the crew who were outraged at LBJ’s dismissal of their suspicions, but they mistook his cavalier attitude towards any who questioned his truckling to the Jews as prima facie evidence of a deliberate attack, and the evidence tends to contradict that view, not support it.

  519. @Iron Lion Zion

    Please describe this “diabolical Greater Iran Project.” What are its principal features and desired end state?

  520. @Flint Clint

    Not really sure what you’re talking about, but if it’s anti-Jewish, I’m in.

  521. @Oscar Peterson

    Shia Islam pima facia all over the ME, everyone waiting for the Madi.
    No discussions here. You are an irrational Jew hater.

    • Replies: @Oscar Peterson
  522. @Fran Taubman

    Shia Islam pima facia all over the ME,

    Absolute nonsense. How will that really happen? Shia Islam’s bounds are pretty well set unless it somehow becomes miraculously attractive to Sunnis en masse. And the spread of Shia Islam in Iraq, Bahrain, and eastern Saudi Arabia was almost entirely peaceful via proselytizers from Qom, occurring in the 19th century when the Iranian state was at its most impotent.

    You have no idea what you are talking about and, quite frankly, personify all that is most repellent in your ilk.

    You are an irrational Jew hater

    What does this actually mean? Hatred is an emotion, and like all emotions, it can’t be said to be strictly rational, and yet “irrational” clearly doesn’t fully describe it either. The threat to the world posed by scheming, self-obsessed, self-pitying, aggressive Jewry is quite real, so antipathy or “hatred” of Jews is simply a natural and healthy reaction.

    If you don’t feel pain when you touch something hot, you will suffer injury. If you don’t feel pain for what Jews have done to the West, the culture will continue on its suicidal path. If this pain does not generate a healthy animosity to global Jewry, then you have lost your survival instinct and will perish.

    Jew-hatred (as you call it) is a mitzvah.

    • Replies: @Iron Lion Zion
  523. @Oscar Peterson

    The Iranian project is to spread Iranian hegemony throughout the Middle-East, mostly via proxy militias, based upon local Shi’ite population in different Arab-Sunni countries, that will empower their host country’s government, and rule these countries de-facto. The rational for that is historical and religious, and relates to the millennia old conflict between the Sunnis and Shi’ites about the dominance in the Muslim World.

    The greatest example of that policy would be the Shi’ite-Lebanese Hezbollah which is way more powerful than the Lebanese Army, to say the least. Hezbollah gets everything it needs from Iran. Hezbollah’s leader, Hassan Nasrallah, has said it himself. From weapons to clothing to food, Hezbollah gets everything from Iran. Hezbollah also got its own network system upon Lebanese soil, again, set and founded by Iran, and against the will of the Lebanese government itself. The Lebanese government is simply powerless against Hezbollah, which is loyal more to Tehran than to Beirut.
    Hezbollah is, therefore, an extension of Iran, a vital part in Iran’s doctrine to have influence upon the Arab countries, to take advantage of their bad functionality, and to reign them via proxy.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/dec/05/lebanon-warned-allies-hezbollah-telecoms

    Lebanon told allies of Hezbollah’s secret network, WikiLeaks shows

    Lebanon’s western-backed government warned its friends that “Iran telecom” was taking over the country two years ago when it uncovered a secret communications network across the country used by Hezbollah, according to a US state department cable.

    Here is a fine example of the Lebanese state, not being able to govern itself, due to Iran’s doing.
    Quite absurd, Lebanon warns his allies about something that is going on in ITS OWN TERRITORY.
    How can that be possible? Because Lebanon is de-facto occupied by Hezbollah, and therefore de-facto occupied by Iran.

    Now, it’s not just Lebanon. Now that Syria is defunct, Iran is there too. And again, with the same tactic. Forming local militias. These militias empower the local government (Assad is a puppet by now), and they de-facto the ones who rule the ground.
    This tactic is duplicated over and over, to each possible country in the Middle-East with a significant Shi’ite minority.
    In Syria, a country already defunct due to the civil war, Iran managed to base its grasp. Assad is a puppet by now, the country is de-facto divided between Iran, Russia, US and Turkey, with Iran and Russia, allegedly allies, competing between themselves for influence and control.
    In Iraq, it’s the militia Hashdi al-Shaab, also loyal to Iran. In Yemen, it’s the Houthis, that conduct a full scale war against Saudi Arabia, a thing they could not have done without the support of Iran. The Houthis could not have get all these drones and ballistic missiles without Iran. And I ain’t talking about the last big attack, the Houthis are constantly firing ballisitc missiles and launching drones into Saudi Arabia for months now.
    Now the Houthis also play another important war, they overlook the Bab al-Mandab straits, which Iran wishes to take control of. That would have giving them dominance over the Red Sea, and by extension, the Suez Canal, one of world’s most important transport routes.

    But the Saudi coalition managed to push the Houthis away from the strait’s shores, and that’s positive.

    Now, you will often hear of one brave country, actually standing up to these hungry country-subjugating tyrants and bombing all their minions from time to time, may they be in Syria, Iraq or Lebanon.

    You guessed right, it’s Israel.

    But Iran also has beef with Israel with no regard to these attacks, as Iran wants to destroy Israel simply because it exists. So Iran also managed to duplicate its control model in the Palestinian territories too. Here they play upon the Palestinian identity card and not upon Shi’ite identity. In Gaza they got Hamas loyal to them, also being funded and armed. But Hamas knows ups and downs with the Iranians, mostly upon the background of the Syrian Civil War, in which Hamas opposed Assad. So Iran got the PIJ militia in Gaza too. Palestinian Islamic Jihad. They are almost as powerful as Hamas, and loyal almost completely to Iran. And this is how Iran got two cards in Gaza Strip. One Hamas, the other PIJ. If Hamas fails to comply, Iran is pulling the PIJ strings.

    And this is how it works. They have a grasp in Lebanon, a grasp in Syria, a grasp in Iraq, a grasp in Yemen, a grasp in Gaza. A true hegemonic empire. It’s called the “Shi’ite Crescent”.

    And I ain’t mentioning all the Shi’ite conversion centers they open throughout the world. Sudan recently closed them, look it up.

    Their end-goal? Middle-East, completely under their hegemony, and with no Israel.

    But Israel won’t let that happen.

    • Replies: @Oscar Peterson
    , @anon
  524. @Oscar Peterson

    What does this actually mean? Hatred is an emotion, and like all emotions, it can’t be said to be strictly rational, and yet “irrational” clearly doesn’t fully describe it either. The threat to the world posed by scheming, self-obsessed, self-pitying, aggressive Jewry is quite real, so antipathy or “hatred” of Jews is simply a natural and healthy reaction.

    If you don’t feel pain when you touch something hot, you will suffer injury. If you don’t feel pain for what Jews have done to the West, the culture will continue on its suicidal path. If this pain does not generate a healthy animosity to global Jewry, then you have lost your survival instinct and will perish.

    Jew-hatred (as you call it) is a mitzvah.

    Hilarious.
    This can also be said on Americans.
    Do you have an idea how much you people are hated throughout the world?

    And now you’re gonna whine “B-But Jews made us hated !”

    No, people hate Americans because they are considered stupid, extremely fat, speaking only their own language, self-centered, think themselves as the very best, get the tendency to shoot each other often, speak with a loud voice, calling themselves “Irish” and “German” when they have no relation to these countries at all, always lie to your face, completely phony, bring superficial consumerism upon the world, have no actual culture, go bankrupt after they visit the hospital, having brutal police forces that will shoot you if you make the wrong move, calling themselves a democracy yet having only two parties, pretend to like you when they are not and the list goes on and on.

    See? Two can play this game.

    • Replies: @Oscar Peterson
  525. Idiot Force of Zion is one of the largest terrorist organizations in this world along with its partners the Wahabi/Salafist

    New York and Beirut

    Beirut and New York

    You are not a nation, but an identity

    and specifically a murderous identity that arrived as a colonizing agent of an empire (1917-) unleash terror over the population (1947) and “the people of the land” (“am ha’eretz”) live without civil rights and under military domination (1967-)

    • Replies: @Iron Lion Zion
  526. @Iron Lion Zion

    Personally, I don’t see how Whites form a “nation”. They clearly don’t.

    True. It would be more accurate to say that they form a culture, and a highly influential one.

    Whites are primarily people of European background, and, more specifically, of Austrian, Belgian, Danish, Dutch, English, French, German, Irish, Italian, Norwegian, Scotch, Swedish, Swiss and Welsh heritage.

    It’s interesting to note that US News recently ranked the following countries as the top 12 in its Best Countries for Quality of Life:

    1. Canada
    2. Sweden
    3. Denmark
    4. Norway
    5. Switzerland
    6. Finland
    7. Australia
    8. Netherlands
    9. New Zealand
    10. Germany
    11. Belgium
    12. United Kingdom

    https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/quality-of-life-rankings

    It was surprising to me to notice that Israel ranked at 41.

    People of European background have been the primary creators of Western civilization. They comprise a unified culture with many shared values, standards, aesthetics, etc.

    Certainly they have as much right to preserve their culture as blacks, Arabs, Asians, Hispanics, Jews and other cultures have to preserve theirs.

    • Agree: Bookish1
  527. @Davidson20

    Learn history.
    First, the pioneers got to Israel by the end of the 19th century, that is before 1917.
    Second, the legal power of Israel stems from the League of Nations, and not from a colonial power. The Palestine Mandate was given for the Great Britain under the condition a Jewish National Home be established in the area (and rights of local non-Jews be preserved). Article 80 of the UN Charter making sure this right does not expire. Therefore Jews, and Israel, got legal claims to all of the territory of the British Mandate, and that is according to international law.

    • Replies: @Oscar Peterson
  528. “learn history”

    The people of “the Land of Canaan”

    The people of “the Land of Canaan” (ca. 1875) were 90% from Arabhebrew culture, 8% from Christian heritage and 2% from Rabbinical tradition

    The Askenazi people (yiddish people) came from Russia

    (A) One history is the history of the “(fugitives/runaway [and for the palatial scribes]) outlaws bandits”: ‘the tribes of fugitives, freemen and bandits that not pay taxes‘, that is the history of ‘the Arabhebrew goatherds of the land of Canaan’ who rightly hated pigs, and they loved goats: the pig is the slavery of the valley under the power of the palaces, the goat is the freedom that leads to the great open space: the desert

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amarna_letters

    This is one history at the end of the Late Bronze Age, remember that “Moses” father-in-law is an Arab priest (Exodus 3,1) and Yahweh is a divinity that came from the south, and “Esau” is the first and older son of Isaac

    (B) Another history, very different history … is the history of an Aramaic ruling class (= “Jacob”) that came to the “land of Canaan” with money, books, pamphlets and Persian power

    this Aramaic ruling class was created in the forge of three empires, the Assyrian empire, the empire of the Chaldeans and the Persian empire

    DeuteroNomy 26,5: “my father was an Aramean”

    (C) A third history … is the history of a religion, Judaism, widespread in the ancient world, in Greek-Roman times, specifically spread like fire by gunpowder among women, and that continued to extend until the Early Middle Ages when under Islamic and Christian pressure it closes on itself

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Middle_Ages

    (D) A four history … is the history of the Askenazi people, the yiddish people

    Four history, Four different stories, although of course one can find a Russian 60-70% European and 40-30% Turkish-Syrian-Persian who in his childish and religious fantasies believes descent from an Arabhebrew goatherd of “the Land of Canaan”

  529. I should not have answered you

    it is clear that the Zionist live in a parallel world to the margin of the humanity

    there are three types of Zionist: the cynics, the liars and the ignorant

    I don’t know which of the three types you belong to, but I’m not interested in finding out, bye

  530. @Iron Lion Zion

    The Iranian project is to spread Iranian hegemony throughout the Middle-East, mostly via proxy militias, based upon local Shi’ite population in different Arab-Sunni countries, that will empower their host country’s government, and rule these countries de-facto.

    You can’t really be that dumb, can you?

    It’s impossible for Iran to “spread hegemony via proxy militias.” There simply aren’t enough countries with substantial Twelver Shia populations for that to happen. Only Iraq and Bahrain have Shia majorities. The former was “liberated” not by Iran but by the US. The latter, with an 80% Shia majority remains under the heel of its Sunni monarch, himself a puppet of Saudi Arabia. The Shia minority in the latter merely tries to survive government repression. It is in no position to do anything for Iran. The Shia plurality in Lebanon was always underrepresented in the Lebanese state created by the French. The Israeli invasion of 1982 generated Hezbollah whose interests mostly, but not always, coincide with Iran’s, yet it’s in a coalition government with Christians and Sunnis. Syria is a secular state with little in common with Iran except that both were isolated by Western Israel-driven policies. The Yemeni Zaidis are closer to Sunnis than Twelver Shia in their Islamic jurisprudence and many other dimensions. Iran may not want to see them crushed by Saudi Arabia–why should anyone want to see that?–but the two would not be close if it were not for the Saudi onslaught in Yemen. And of course the vast majority of Hamas and PIJ are Sunnis so there’s no Shia connection there at all.

    Iran is responding to Israel’s foolishly US-backed drive to subordinate the region to its Judeofascist will.

    Iran and Turkey are destined to be regional leaders. The US needs to drop the Israeli anchor it’s been toting around and find a modus vivendi with these two key players. Of course our disloyal, self-serving Jews are opposed to their sensible strategy.

    China must be very grateful to Israel for undermining the US position in the region (and the world.)

    • Replies: @Iron Lion Zion
  531. @Iron Lion Zion

    Two can play this game.

    Yes, two can play the game. But you play it poorly.

    This can also be said on Americans.
    Do you have an idea how much you people are hated throughout the world?

    So, you hate Americans, do you, my little Israeli Jew? I guess we should remember that when your disgusting leaders demand more of our tax money.

    And by the way, all the things you list are subjects of contempt, not hate. The two are by no means the same. Hate stems from a threat like that posed by conniving, manipulative international Jewry. American obesity generates derision, such as you exhibit, my little Israeli Jew, not hatred.

    Of course, Jews are at the core of the problems that have demoralized the US population and left it adrift and prey to obesity, addiction and much else that profits international Jews, parasites that they are. And yes, the aggressive interventionism induced by our disloyal Jewish population is central to how hated the US has become.

    You are truly a curse on the US and the world.

    • Replies: @Iron Lion Zion
  532. @Iron Lion Zion

    Jews were less than 7% of the Palestinian population at the end of WW I.

    They were imposed on the Arabs by their connivance with Britain and because none of the LoN countries–ie Europe–were terribly concerned how the locals would react to having the most odious race on the planet foisted on them.

    Of course the US government sent a survey team into the region in 1920 to sample opinion, and all the local Arabs made it clear that they rejected becoming a dumping ground for Europe’s (understandably) unloved Jews.

    So now, the Jews have gone from exploiting Polish and Ukrainian peasants to subjugating Palestinian Arabs.

    Is there anything more deeply and consistently repellent than the Jews?

    • Replies: @Iron Lion Zion
  533. @Flint Clint

    Thanks for your service & my respect, Flint Clint!

    Never seen such articulate & ominous words which impact all. No doubt, it is quite unfathomable and still difficult to grasp. Most will never accept it.”

    Doubtless, enhanced awareness of “the Jewish matrix” is the beginning of resistance and spiritual strength.

    Yikes. Thanks once again, Flint Clint! Fyi, I regret my response-comment is so late, but I get what you said, “The world is going to see some convulsions.”😈

  534. @Oscar Peterson

    lol

    * calling me dumb *
    * mentioning random facts that vaguely relates to subject and don’t contradict what I said *

    Then producing this line “Iran and Turkey are destined to be regional leaders.”

    So you’re basically agreeing with me?

    What’s a regional leader? Can you tell? If not a laundered word for the one who has the hegemony?
    And this is exactly what Iran aspires to.

    And nothing you said denies the fact that Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Yemen and Gaza – all in the state of malfunctioning, with Iran holding onto these territories with having local militias fully submitted to and operated by Iran. This is a form of occupation, de-facto. The example which I produced above, with the Lebanese government being desperate against Hezbollah’s communication network, says it all. It’s not the government in Beirut which decides what’s going on in its own territory, but the government of Tehran. And this also the case for all the others Iranian-occupied zones.

    As for ‘destiny’, I ain’t sure you gut feelings and wishful thinking is destiny.

    • Replies: @anon
  535. @Oscar Peterson

    I don’t hate Americans, at all.
    I merely responded to your despicable racism by producing a list of my own, containing all the bad stuff I happened to hear about Americans.
    I can go on, by the way, it’s a really long list.

    Of course, Jews are at the core of the problems that have demoralized the US population and left it adrift and prey to obesity, addiction and much else that profits international Jews, parasites that they are

    Ok, you got to admit, you’re producing gold here.
    “The Jews is the reason we’re all fat”.

    No, sorry buddy, it’s the corn syrup you put in every other 2nd product and all these huge bags of chips. But I bet the Jews did that too.

  536. @Oscar Peterson

    Jews were less than 7% of the Palestinian population at the end of WW I.

    Irrelevant. North America used to have 0% population of White and Black people, but look where we are at now.

    They were imposed on the Arabs by their connivance with Britain and because none of the LoN countries–ie Europe–were terribly concerned how the locals would react to having the most odious race on the planet foisted on them.

    First of all, this is dead wrong, as pioneers already settled in the area before the Brits ever got there. So these 7% which you speak of are composed of New Yishuv pioneers and Old Yishuv Jewish locals which may live there for centuries.

    Second of all, most odious race on the planet? I am pretty sure everybody will agree that Whites. Ask any African or Asian, Jew or Gypsy, or any non-White. Ever thought why Whites are the only group of people who are restricted from forming their own collective identity? Because everybody knows what happens the moment Whites are allowed to do that. The enslavement and killing begin.
    Such an odious race.

    Of course the US government sent a survey team into the region in 1920 to sample opinion, and all the local Arabs made it clear that they rejected becoming a dumping ground for Europe’s (understandably) unloved Jews.

    Sounds like a nice story.

    So now, the Jews have gone from exploiting Polish and Ukrainian peasants to subjugating Palestinian Arabs.

    There would have been no need to ‘exploit’ these peasants if Jews had the permission to be peasant by themselves too. But Jews were barred from many occupations. The Christian rulers pushed the Jews into money-lending and all that Jazz, because they saw it as unethical necessary tasks. In other words, first the Christians push the Jews into dealing with money, then they complain Jews got too money and that they take over the financial branch. Go figure.

    Subjugated the Palestinians? Check out what happens at the so-called “refugee camps” in the Arab World. Palestinian “refugees”, who are not refugees whatsoever and stuck in these camps for all eternity, deprived from basic rights. This is practically apartheid.

    Is there anything more deeply and consistently repellent than the Jews?

    You, I’d say. You’re extremely impolite.

  537. Truth3 says:
    @Fran Taubman

    9/11 Perps and Shabbos Goy helpers jailed and hung.
    Who might that be and can you prove it?

    Principal Suspects…

    [MORE]

    Larry Silverstein
    Dov Zakheim
    Benjamin Netanyahu
    Paul Wolfowitz
    Richard Perle
    William Kristol
    Robert Kagan
    James Woolsey
    Elliot Abrams
    Donald Rumsfeld
    Robert Zoellick
    John Bolton
    Dick Cheney
    Donald Kagan
    Gary Schmitt
    Mark Gerson
    Midge Decter
    Frank Gaffney
    Eliot Cohen
    Scooter Libby
    Stephen Rosen
    Zalmay Khalilzad
    Norman Podhoretz
    Bill Bennett
    Randy Scheunemann
    Gary Bauer
    Madeline Albright
    Douglas Feith
    David Wurmser
    David Frum
    Meyrav Wurmser
    Rovert Loewenburg
    Tony Blair
    Kenneth Adelman
    Reuel Marc Gerecht
    Jonah Goldberg
    Charles Krauthammer
    Irving Kristol
    Daniel Pipes
    Frederick Kagan
    Victoria Nudelman
    Jennifer Rubin
    Rudi Giuliani
    Nathan Glazer
    Frank Lowy
    Philip Zelikow
    Ariel Sharon
    Michael Chertoff
    and on and on and on…

    So… Fran Linda Taubman Rice…

    You never heard of the PNAC? Of course you have.

    Familiar with Israeli (((Jewish))) history of False Flags? Stop your lying.

    Understand Physics at all? Newton’s Laws? Of course you don’t.

    Enjoyed the killing of over a Million Innocent Arabs in Iraq by the US Military fighting wars for Israel? Of course you do.

    Watch and cheer as the Israeli snipers kill and maim innocent Palestinians in Gaza? Bet your ass you do.

    Swing a chicken over your head on Yom Kippur to send your sins away? You idiot, it won’t work.

    Spit when you see a cross? Damn straight you do it.

    Think Haman’s Ears are tasty? You sick Phuque.

    Smell bad hygeinically? Sure you do… so Stay Away from USA.

    Are ugly as sin? To the bone you are.

    Read the Talmud and follow it’s evil instructions? Bet you do it twice a day.

    Worship the Devil much? Only Sunday to Saturday.

    Enjoy poisoning Christians? Every chance you get.

    Kill any small Children that are baptized? Only at Passover.

    Hate Jesus Christ with every cell in your rancid body? Wow… you’re boiling now.

    Wish that Jewish men would find you just a little bit attractive? Good luck with that.

    Had enough yet Bitch?

  538. Bookish1 says:

    Whites the MOST odius? We should not have brought civilization to you then and instead let you live in a mud hut somewhere and wipe your ass with tree leaves. Whites the most violent? Bullshit all the way. And by the way arabs still have black slaves to this day and slave traders. I won’t waste anymore time on your kind. One more thing, the hatred of whites has jealousy at its core.

    • Replies: @Iron Lion Zion
  539. @Alexandros

    Paganism is homosexuality, rape, child sacrifice, cannibalism, and entropy.

    You are a Pagan Larper.

    I can understand the deep antithapy you feel towards Churchianity. But that isn’t Christianity.

    Paganism can’t save the West. Because it’s nothing but an attitude. Christianity is a philosophy. Grant K Chesteron talks about it in The Everlasting Man.

    E Michael Jones is right – without Christianity, Europe would have stagnated into, at best, Carthage.

    Paganism died because it was just a glamour – a mysticism, a chaotic syncretism.

    Your statement about World War 2 is nonsensical. ‘Christian Bishops’ had almost zero influence on the course of World War 2. World War 2 was just one of the penultimate conspiracies to destroy what remained of European Christian civilization. It is the exact opposite. No white men killed other white men in world war 2 over theology.

    It’s always Jews who attempt to assert that Christianity is Jewish – when it is intrinsically opposed.

    [MORE]

    You don’t seem to know anything for example about comparative religion.

    For a start – it is only Christianity that even conceives of evil. No other religion does. Judaism certainly doesn’t. Judaism conceives of Satan as merely equal and opposite to God, to be worshipped and appeased in equal measure to the Creator. Christianity observes a fallen world. The Jews see only a world to be reconceived via Tikkun Olam.

    Paganism is related to Judaism in this way.

    You are also completely deluded if you think some kind of atheism or neo-Christian religion a la Jordan Peterson is viable as a common religion for the West.

    Atheism itself is merely a premise of communism, and Freemasonic, and the cause of Europe’s current predicament.

    Like Grant Chesterton – all Chrisitans respect the noble Pagan. But it is only a partial glimpse of a transcendent truth.

    Paganism just fails. Aristotle annihliated nature worship by observing that man is a political animal.

    Paganism is not a philosophy, nor is it a paradigm. It is a superficial sensibility, that satisifies only a partial sense of the supernatural.

    You are quite wrong about Christianity.

    There hasn’t been a multi thousand year old conspiracy to destroy Christianity because it is not feared.

    None of the governor’s, the intelligence directors, the ancient Jewish lines fear any form of paganism – because they are Pagans themselves.

    They only fear it in a very partial sense because it at least shows man with an understanding of their state in life – but Paganism also abjures the soul. The source of all of man’s transcendent value.

    Even Nietzsche understood that Christianity was the premise for all scientific advancement. We have stagnated because we now live in a two-tiered world where anti-Christian scientists maintain advancement for a small cabal, and the non-cabal are merely subjuects farmed to maintained that advancement.

    I wish I could find you the quote. Nietzsche said that it was only Christian belief in universal laws alongside mortification and offerings up that enabled the advancement of scientific discovery and what he saw as it’s demise.

    But he was wrong.

    Anyway just look around you. In Europe, and the United States, when the lands were nominally Christian, they were strong, they were white, and they were relatively sane.

    What you see now is the result of a post-Christian world.

    And you are also wrong about Christian sentiment to the Jews. Only the boomers believe in the nonsense of ‘Judeo-Christianity’. That’s it. Once they’re gone, it’s gone. And once men come back to the Church, so to will the women.

    • Replies: @Alexandros
  540. @Iron Lion Zion

    Modern day Jews have zero relationship to the land of Israel. Zero. People say otherwise as a result of fear and force, but that’s all.

    You lie hilariously.

    The Chinese know that it was the Sackler family, the same Jewish family now flooding and destroying the Appalachians with opiods, that originally spread opium through China and fomented the Boxer rebellion.

    That’s why the Chinese have refused to allow David Spengler and the diaspora permission to re-settle in China.

    That has caused huge alarm in the Jewish community, because they understand now, as I said before:

    100 years after the USA first permitted mass Jewish immigration, it has lost its global power, it is deeply in debt, it is demoralized in literally every sense of the term, it has been invaded by tens of millions of foreigners, and is now on the verge of complete political collapse.

    But now they are going to have to try and mitigate the damage and retain the West against their own instincts, because they can’t pivot to China, who refuse to allow their people to be subverted like the West’s have been subverted so successfully for thousands of years.

    You are laughable. On this website people have reexamined the Jewish false histories of the ‘pales of settlement’ etc. Jews were barely restricted in any way, and the restrictions quite coincidentally happened to align with Jewish preferences.

    Aside from the erecting of Kibuttz in Israel for a few decades, when have you ever seen Jews engaged in manual labour of almost any kind?

    The Palestinians are suffering because all of the so-called ‘Arab’ houses around them are Jewish. The House of Saud is Jewish. The Jordanian kingdom is Jewish. As is the Kingdom of Iran – the Khamenei’s are almost open descendent’s of the Komenes.

    You talk of white depredations. It was Jews who dominated all slave trades, and who were the money forces behind all colonial enterprises.

    And now you declare yourself with your statement about white collective identity being stymied and prevented. Well that’s hilarious, because anyone white who says that is accused of being a conspriacy theorist and a Nazi.

    But of course it’s true.

    But you and others are not going to be able to prevent it. It has already coalesced, and the more it is impeded, the more aggresive the form it is going to take.

    It’s quite unreal how much you like.

    As for the Yishuv settlers, well there were a few Chinese traders in the land currently called Israel – I suppose on your logic their presence means that China has a right to Judeaea.

    You project. The enslavement and the killing was by Jews acting in concert with Muslims. What was the Byzantine Empire before it became an Islamic Caliphate?

    What was the slave trade to the Indies led by Anglo-Jews?

    It’s actually hilarious how badly miscalculated the pivot to China has been botched. Because all of these false histories are going to be cross examined in the new West. And new collective identities reforged, and new realities and paradigms observed.

    And it was and is totally unnecesasary. Totally. All Jews need to do is accept the right of white people to exist, and both groups can live in harmony, even with Jewish domination of all discourse and all aspects of reality. But they refuse. They only destroy.

    The Israel-US relationship is going to effing die with the Boomers, you liar. You lie, and you lie, and you lie. And the Boomers accepted your lies. Only a subset of the other generations accept the lies.

    The next 25 years are going to be very interesting.

    • Agree: annamaria
    • Replies: @Iron Lion Zion
  541. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:
    @Iron Lion Zion

    “Iran and Turkey are destined to be regional leaders.”

    When “Israel” dissolves, of course.

    • Replies: @Iron Lion Zion
  542. @anon

    So you’re agreeing with me Israel stands in the way of Iranian/Turkish imperialism to take over the entire region.

    Anyway

    When “Israel” dissolves, of course.

    Good thing that will never happen.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  543. @Flint Clint

    Modern day Jews have zero relationship to the land of Israel. Zero. People say otherwise as a result of fear and force, but that’s all.

    And based on what you say that? Let me guess, the long debunked Khazar theory?

    The Chinese know that it was the Sackler family, the same Jewish family now flooding and destroying the Appalachians with opiods, that originally spread opium through China and fomented the Boxer rebellion.

    Is this why the Chinese admire Jews?

    You are laughable. On this website people have reexamined the Jewish false histories of the ‘pales of settlement’ etc. Jews were barely restricted in any way, and the restrictions quite coincidentally happened to align with Jewish preferences.

    Wow, what a surprise. People on this website also says as follows :

    The Palestinians are suffering because all of the so-called ‘Arab’ houses around them are Jewish. The House of Saud is Jewish. The Jordanian kingdom is Jewish. As is the Kingdom of Iran – the Khamenei’s are almost open descendent’s of the Komenes.

    lol
    Then why do they fight Israel ?!

    You talk of white depredations. It was Jews who dominated all slave trades, and who were the money forces behind all colonial enterprises.

    Is there a European atrocity that the Jews, a minority of a few millions, were not behind of? Let me guess, the answer is actually “No”. Maybe the Jews erected colonies throughout the world, enslaving and killing the locals?
    Let me guess, it’s the Jews who ethnically cleansed the natives in North America, only to erect the United States upon their graves. Maybe it’s the Jews who decimated the Aztec Empire.

    As for the Yishuv settlers, well there were a few Chinese traders in the land currently called Israel – I suppose on your logic their presence means that China has a right to Judeaea.

    Thing is that the relation of Jews and the Land of Israel is far more than “few traders” in a certain spot of time.

    And it was and is totally unnecesasary. Totally. All Jews need to do is accept the right of white people to exist, and both groups can live in harmony, even with Jewish domination of all discourse and all aspects of reality. But they refuse. They only destroy.

    I have no problem with White people existing. It’s vice versa.

    The Israel-US relationship is going to effing die with the Boomers, you liar. You lie, and you lie, and you lie. And the Boomers accepted your lies. Only a subset of the other generations accept the lies.

    Maybe. But are you aware it’s because the leftists will be taking over? I’m talking of the left-wingers in the Democratic Party, of course.

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
  544. @Bookish1

    Ask any non-White what Whites have done to them.
    You’d get interesting answers.

  545. @Iron Lion Zion

    Second of all, most odious race on the planet? I am pretty sure everybody will agree that Whites. Ask any African or Asian, Jew or Gypsy, or any non-White. Ever thought why Whites are the only group of people who are restricted from forming their own collective identity? Because everybody knows what happens the moment Whites are allowed to do that. The enslavement and killing begin

    .

    Look who’s talking. As you say the past is irrelevant, then if we look at it today, whites are the most odious and hated by all those you mention primarily because of their support for Israel and for fighting Jew wars in the Middle East. But they haven’t even built a complete wall yet or started shooting from it at would be invaders, something you’ve already done. And if they did you’d be whipping up hate against them even more among all those “African or Asian, Jew or Gypsy, or any non-White”. Don’t you people ever learn. The whites are not even your worst enemy. You’re just a little tiny insignificant country in the desert about the size of a municipality surrounded by hostiles who vastly outnumber you and you think you’ll be able to hold out forever. Once whites stop supporting you I wonder what mercy those Arabs and muslims will show you. Same as you showed them I guess, or you’ll be lucky if not worse.

  546. @Iron Lion Zion

    * mentioning random facts that vaguely relates to subject and don’t contradict what I said *

    The Iranian project is to spread Iranian hegemony throughout the Middle-East, mostly via proxy militias, based upon local Shi’ite population in different Arab-Sunni countries,

    You said that the “Iranian project” is to use Shia populations to achieve “hegemony.”

    That’s not possible and won’t happen. In the Gulf countries the Shia populations are not strong enough to be the basis for any path to “hegemony.” In Palestin